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IRC Log for 2012-11-23

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[0:00] <gordonDrogon> I wrote a cesil interprete in BASIC - and added in an xmas tree with fairy lights.
[0:00] <AeroNotix> I'm not seeing the BASIC interpreter code, which is it?
[0:01] <gordonDrogon> cesil.rtb
[0:01] <gordonDrogon> RTB = Return to BASIC.
[0:01] <gordonDrogon> seemed like a good name at the time..
[0:01] <AeroNotix> the C code, you said the BASIC int. was in C
[0:02] <gordonDrogon> oh, that's at the top level - rtb
[0:02] <AeroNotix> ah ok
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[0:05] <gordonDrogon> finding anything exciting? :)
[0:06] <AeroNotix> gordonDrogon: just nipping through. I'm kind of zapped today so I've not wrote much code and I feel a bit guilty. READING code is making up for it.
[0:08] <gordonDrogon> yea, I have those days too!
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[0:09] <AeroNotix> I got my pi up and running though, after debugging some psu issues so it's more than productive :)
[0:09] <AeroNotix> bought a chinese special and got bitten
[0:09] <AeroNotix> it was running at 4.3v
[0:09] <AeroNotix> :(
[0:11] <AeroNotix> heh, someone just pointed out to me that the RPi is cheaper than an arduino ethernet shield. How bout that
[0:11] <Hexxeh> and faaaar easier to work with
[0:11] <AeroNotix> oh hey Hexxeh
[0:11] <Hexxeh> sup
[0:11] <SpeedEvil> USB issues are annoying
[0:11] <AeroNotix> get back working on that chrome
[0:11] <AeroNotix> ;)
[0:11] <Hexxeh> nao
[0:11] <AeroNotix> nao!
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[0:11] <Hexxeh> well i am working on chrome
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[0:11] <AeroNotix> :)
[0:11] <Hexxeh> but for like, real work
[0:11] <AeroNotix> hehe
[0:12] <AeroNotix> I heard you were working on it for RPi, right?
[0:12] <Hexxeh> nah, I work on Chrome OS for my job :)
[0:12] <Hexxeh> i was doing some chromium rpi stuff, not touched it in a while though
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[0:13] <AeroNotix> oh right ok, well, good luck anyway o7
[0:13] <Hexxeh> that's not to say i don't have some fun rpi stuff up my sleeve though
[0:14] <AeroNotix> I'm just getting mine integrated with the rest of my systems, ssh keys, logging, etc
[0:14] <AeroNotix> then the hackin' begins
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[0:20] <gordonDrogon> Hm. not apt-get upgraded my pi's for a while - big upgrades coming down...
[0:20] <BlackFate> gordonDrogon, hope you have a reasonably fast sd
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[0:22] <AeroNotix> yeah, I am surprised at how slow just touching a file is with the sd card
[0:22] <AeroNotix> I got a class 4 :(
[0:22] <gordonDrogon> BlackFate, c6/sandisk ultra. 20MB/sec reads..
[0:23] <gordonDrogon> and I use eatmydata too...
[0:23] <gordonDrogon> that makes it bareable..
[0:23] <BlackFate> oh ok
[0:23] <gordonDrogon> they're a lot faster than my acer aspire one!
[0:24] <gordonDrogon> (with the original 8GB SSD - thats slow state drive)
[0:24] <AeroNotix> vertex 4 here, zoom zoom
[0:25] <gordonDrogon> yea, that's in my desktop.
[0:25] <Gr33n3gg> awww yeah, got retroarch running super mario world
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[0:27] <gordonDrogon> ah, actually, it's an OCZ Agility in my desktop.
[0:28] <gordonDrogon> right. 3 Pi's upgraded, 3 rebooting...
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[0:29] <AeroNotix> rolling release ftw
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[0:34] <gordonDrogon> and one Pi's croaked.
[0:34] <gordonDrogon> bother.
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[0:39] <gordonDrogon> ah. it's toast. connecting most of the filesystem into lost+found ):
[0:39] <gordonDrogon> wonder why that happened.
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[0:42] <gordonDrogon> Hm. it's the oldest - first batch Pi too.
[0:43] <gordonDrogon> is there a rune to switch to hdmi without rebooting?
[0:47] <linuxstb> tvservice ?
[0:47] <gordonDrogon> quicker to reboot..
[0:47] <gordonDrogon> will look at that though, thanks.
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[2:58] <Tachyon`> http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/11/22/the-electrochemical-orange/
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[3:39] <Smashcat> Anyone have any idea when the new camera module will be available?
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[7:39] <jaxdahl> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231577&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL112312&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL112312-_-EMC-112312-Index-_-FlashMemory-_-20231577-L0J this is listed on newegg's BF promo as being $20 (32gb mSDHC + adapter) but it's showing up as $28 right now, maybe check later. might be nice for using with the rpi
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[7:41] <jaxdahl> price should be live in about 1 hour 20
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[8:07] <mgarces> morning
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[8:09] <OutOfLine> hi
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[8:35] <cdan> good morning
[8:35] <mgarces> cdan: morning..! :)
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[8:39] <Jck_true> I can find plenty of 12V -> 230V relays (Plan on using thoose with a transistor to drive them from the GPIO pins)
[8:39] <Jck_true> What are they called the opposite way :/ 230V-> to a GPIO pin
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[8:41] <bircoe> resistors in combination with transformers and optoisolators
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[8:42] <Jck_true> A transformer? Can't I just get a simple relay that works on 230V?
[8:43] <bircoe> 230v relays exist... but they're generally for house use and come in a package that clips into fuseboxes on the side of the house.
[8:43] <bircoe> what do you want to do?
[8:43] <Jck_true> bircoe: Old monster of a heating unit
[8:44] <Jck_true> Legacy design it puts 230V on a line when there's a fault in the device
[8:44] <Jck_true> (And 230V on another when it's low on fuel)
[8:44] <bircoe> so you want an RPi to be able to tell when it's powered up?
[8:44] <Jck_true> Yup
[8:44] <bircoe> the absolute simplest way would be a 3v transformer...
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[8:45] <bircoe> otherwise you need to step down the 240 to a safe level, optoisolate the high voltage from the low voltage and use appropriate resistors to limit the current to an acceptable level
[8:46] <Jck_true> Yeah that seems like alot of wiring... Figured I could just get a simple relay
[8:46] <Jck_true> That got 230V as input
[8:46] <bircoe> I
[8:46] <bircoe> 've never seen a relay that goes the other way
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[9:09] <Jck_true> bircoe: Found some at Farnell :)Just gotta keep looking for a full board :)
[9:10] <CelticTurnip> hey all
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[9:28] <damo22> what is voice?
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[9:35] <tobias> the sound you make when you speak
[9:38] <bircoe> Jck_true, share a link...
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[10:00] <RaTTuS|BIG> damo22 - it's what allows you to speak in this channel - you ahve to be registered and the bot will not voice you unless you are - this Cuts down the spam .....
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[10:02] <damo22> RaTTuS|BIG, thankyou for the explanation
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[10:17] <gordonDrogon> Mmmmm mains level relays/switches... nice :)
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[11:44] <dero> hi, for a few games on the pi, what would be the right starting point?
[11:44] <dero> are there any in the raspbian repos?
[11:44] <Gr33n3gg> awww yeaah, halfway built my controller for retroarch
[11:46] <Jck_true> dero: There's a few included with the default distro...
[11:46] <Jck_true> dero: But there are no "commerical grade games" if you're looking for the next Call of Duty contender...
[11:47] <dero> I am looking for something to make a 6 year happy
[11:47] <dero> 6 year old
[11:47] <Jck_true> dero: Look at scratch
[11:47] <Gr33n3gg> frozenbubble
[11:47] <dero> simple games
[11:47] <dero> I already got gcompris
[11:47] <Gr33n3gg> vitetris
[11:47] <Jck_true> Demp: Emulators - Plenty of old games there
[11:47] <Gr33n3gg> ^
[11:47] <dero> demp?
[11:48] <dero> should I install mame or what?
[11:48] <Gr33n3gg> just got my raspberry pi yesterday and got a snes emulator
[11:48] <Jck_true> (Ehh and i of course never encouraged to piracy)
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[11:50] <RaTTuS|BIG> nethack will keep them happy for a few years
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[11:50] <Gr33n3gg> gcc is a fun game too
[11:51] <RaTTuS|BIG> vi can be useful for many many years
[11:51] <Maqs> is there any hardware assisted en-/decryption in the PI that may be used with cryptsetup or the like?
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[11:55] <[deXter]> Maqs, Well if the GPU driver becomes fully open-source in a distant imaginary future, perhaps one could use OpenCL or equivalent accelerate decryption on the Pi.
[11:55] <dero> ness?
[11:55] <Jck_true> Wouldn'r surprise me if there was allready hardware support for some sort of encryption/decryption... We just don't know about it
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[11:57] <Maqs> mh k, thanks
[11:58] <dero> which is the best emulator with most cool games?
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[11:59] <Jck_true> dero: You won't get a suitable answer :P Some people will say old MAME games are the best some say SNES -- (I say Playstation 1)
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[12:09] <dero> colorful games
[12:09] <dero> not arcade crap
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[12:12] <RaTTuS|BIG> nethack has color
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[12:12] <RaTTuS|BIG> and needs brains
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[12:20] <Helldesk> These registered channel shenanigans failed again. My connection to freenode (and freenode only) was dropped; irssi reconnected, with password supplied to the server already so it ought to have auto-identified; my ghost was there... and rejoin here failed
[12:20] <yang2> Helldesk: can you report it into #freenode , please ?
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[12:22] <Jck_true> RaTTuS|BIG: I'm 24 years old and even I don't understand NetHack... Good luck throwing it at a 6 year old :D
[12:22] <Helldesk> not sure if there's anything to report other than the (ill-conceived) idea working as intended ;)
[12:22] <Jck_true> dero: Platform games for Nintendo? Playstaion?
[12:30] <dero> ps?
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[12:48] <gordonDrogon> write your own games in BASIC :)
[12:48] <[deXter]> I remember writing a snake game in Basic.. :)
[12:48] <gordonDrogon> actually, if I have time this afternoon, I'll write 'snake' for it.
[12:49] <[deXter]> OMG
[12:49] <gordonDrogon> yea, like minds and all that :)
[12:49] <[deXter]> :D
[12:49] <gordonDrogon> and one day I'll work out how SDL sound works too.
[12:49] <gordonDrogon> probably badly on the Pi, however...
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[13:00] <chris_99> Seen this gordonDrogon http://www.basic-converter.org/
[13:01] <gordonDrogon> er... that's almost as bad as writing as basic interpreter in the first place ;-)
[13:02] <gordonDrogon> it's written in BASH!!!
[13:03] <dero> last game I played was Maniac Mansion I
[13:03] <chris_99> no theres a BASIC version http://www.basic-converter.org/stable/bacon.bac
[13:04] * gordonDrogon cringes
[13:04] <chris_99> but personally i don't really like BASIC anyway ;)
[13:04] <gordonDrogon> theres versions on basic and various shells..
[13:04] <gordonDrogon> what a concept.
[13:05] <gordonDrogon> wonder what basic its targetted at.
[13:05] <dero> A BASIC version of MM?
[13:05] <gordonDrogon> surprised they didn't run it on itself and produce a C version of itself..
[13:05] <chris_99> MM, is Scumm i believe dero
[13:05] <dero> jo
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[13:05] <dero> is there a scrumm player for the Pee?
[13:06] <chris_99> hmm that'd be cool
[13:06] <gordonDrogon> I have a book of 'adventure games' for the trs-80 pocket computer. Might type them in one day. Or get a scanner and ocr them in.
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[13:06] <chris_99> apparently you just do sudo apt-get install scummvm
[13:06] <dero> kool!
[13:06] <chris_99> i want to try day of the tentacle then
[13:07] <dero> then my kids can play all the kool Lucas games
[13:07] <chris_99> :)
[13:07] <gordonDrogon> I think he's invented his own basic, then rather than write an interpreter for it, he wrote a translator into C.
[13:08] <gordonDrogon> it's a rather intersting effort!
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[13:09] <gordonDrogon> and yesterday I wrote a CESIL interpreter in BASIC.
[13:09] <chris_99> makes it faster i guess
[13:10] <gordonDrogon> I must get out more.
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[13:10] <tobias> i'm not really the basic kind of guy
[13:11] <gordonDrogon> I don't think anymore is, anymore.
[13:11] <gordonDrogon> but in recent weeks, 2 other BASIC interpreters have popped up on the Pi forums and gotten a small following.
[13:12] <Lexip> Any recommendations for (free) simple games to run on the PI? Preferably with few input keys and OK to run on a TV :)
[13:12] <dero> it would be nice to have a pure rich gaming image
[13:14] <gordonDrogon> dero, half the issue is the graphics side of it all - the other hanf might be the physics engine - that doesn't leave a lot ;-)
[13:15] <chris_99> this is a long shot, there was this game for windows, where you had a little rocket that you had to navigate through tunnels, with opening doors etc., don't suppose anyone knows what that was called
[13:16] <tobias> does it run MAME?
[13:16] <gordonDrogon> I worked for a PC games company once. I've no plans to do that again...
[13:16] <tobias> or snes9x
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[13:16] <chris_99> heh, why not gordonDrogon
[13:17] <gordonDrogon> chris_99, I didn't fit-in. I was the oldest in the company and the others gave me a lot of stick for it.
[13:17] <chris_99> oh, darn
[13:18] <chris_99> one of my friends develops games for the 3DS, that sounded pretty cool
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> and they went through the usual money issues and I'd had enough of that too.
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> and the stuff they wanted me to do was a year away so I was placed into a very unfamiliar environment from day one - the learning curve was somewhat steep!
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> and most of them were a bunch of druggies which I really didn't agree with.
[13:20] <gordonDrogon> so there you go - at 33 (ish) I was too old and boring for them.
[13:20] <chris_99> what kind of games did they make
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[13:21] <gordonDrogon> they were working on just one game - a huge (for hte time) historical WW2 simulation - fly a bunch of bombers over to germany ...
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[13:22] <gordonDrogon> so it was all supposed to be internet based - and I was supposed to be writing the network side of it..
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[13:22] <chris_99> oh, fancy
[13:22] <gordonDrogon> instead they gave me all the 2D menu setup screens, etc. which I was less than enthusiastic about.
[13:23] <chris_99> darn, that doesn't sound too fun. I'm guessing it was C based?
[13:23] <gordonDrogon> C++
[13:23] <chris_99> ah
[13:23] <gordonDrogon> under MS Studio dev thingy.
[13:23] <gordonDrogon> the only time in my life I've written C++ and used an MS platform.
[13:23] <Lexip> Ah, on the gaming question, Magpi #3 had a lit of some games to try :)
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[13:24] <gordonDrogon> I stuck it out for almost a year then got offered an IT mangers place at a much more exciting company (In my mind), so jumped...
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[13:25] <gordonDrogon> I seem to have been working for startups for the past 25 years...
[13:25] <Lexip> 33 "too old"? oh dear
[13:26] <dero> I am 33 too
[13:26] <gordonDrogon> that was ~16 years ago...
[13:26] <dero> ups
[13:26] <dero> so you, are 33+16, roughly 60?
[13:26] <gordonDrogon> hope your counting is better than that. try again.
[13:26] <nid0> wow, your maths is great
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[13:26] <dero> octal
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[13:27] <gordonDrogon> might have been abut 15 years ago, so I was about 35ish.
[13:27] <gordonDrogon> I'll be 50 before this year is out.
[13:27] <Armand> Oohhh.... old man!!
[13:27] <gordonDrogon> Gee, thanks.
[13:27] <Armand> Hehe
[13:28] <Armand> I couldn't exactly say "Young man!" :P
[13:28] <gordonDrogon> how about just not saying anything?
[13:28] <Armand> Harry Enfield has a lot to answer for. :P
[13:28] <gordonDrogon> I don't think I'm going that badly for being almost half a century though
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[13:29] <gordonDrogon> however now I'm going out for lunch - to Nariania.
[13:29] <Armand> Well, depends.. if you're like my dad, that would be a different sorry.
[13:29] <Armand> *story
[13:29] <gordonDrogon> http://www.thisisdevon.co.uk/Twin-town-s-return-Narnia/story-15522236-detail/story.html
[13:29] <gordonDrogon> :)
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[13:30] <chris_99> haha
[13:30] <chris_99> "Last year a student gained a phd for a thesis entitled Totnes: Twinned with Narnia."
[13:30] <Armand> Nice. :)
[13:32] <Armand> How far is that from Plymouth ?
[13:32] <gordonDrogon> about half an hour.
[13:32] <gordonDrogon> laters..
[13:32] <Armand> Be good. .o/
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[13:40] <dero> BERLIN!
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[13:40] <Armand> LONDON!
[13:42] <Lexip> PARIS
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[13:47] <Armand> Canberra!
[13:48] <Armand> If I recall, once voted the "Most boring Capital city" ? :P
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[13:48] <Megaf> Hi all
[13:48] <mgarces> hi
[13:49] <Armand> Hello. .o/
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[14:16] <SharPi> Hi guys, I am having issue with installing a bootbale image on an SD card. I install the image using the dd command and get no errors, but insert the card into the Pi and it won't boot, I have check that the SD card is compatible and it is so I am stuck as too why its not working
[14:17] <linuxstb> SharPi: What's the command you typed to install the image?
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[14:18] <SharPi> sudo dd bs=4M if=Documents/Pi/2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/sdc1
[14:18] <SharPi> was the exact command
[14:18] <linuxstb> That should be sdc - no "1" at the end.
[14:19] <SharPi> even though the card appeared as /dev/sdc1 in "df -h"
[14:19] <linuxstb> That isn't "the card", that's the first partition on the card.
[14:19] <linuxstb> "the card" is /dev/sdc
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[14:20] <SharPi> ah, ok, I'll give that a go, thanks linuxstb
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[14:27] <Tachyon`> erm, help?
[14:27] <Tachyon`> http://www.pokenet.co.uk/misc/files.pi/piwtf.jpg
[14:30] <n1ko> looks like a corrupted fs / bad sd. Restore backup, turn off overclocking. If it persist try another card
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[14:30] <Tachyon`> oh, it could be the overclocking, hrm
[14:30] <Tachyon`> I've tried four different cards and it still happens
[14:31] <Tachyon`> but that time I hadn't even rebooted since I wrote that card, just failed on a running system
[14:31] <Tachyon`> am running at 900MHz though...
[14:31] <Tachyon`> so maybe taht's it
[14:32] <Tachyon`> but yeah, it's more the why than the what, I know what but assumed I was rebooting before writes had completed or something, it's clearly not that though
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[14:44] <richrboo> Hello, does anyone have the Edimax usb wifi 7811un working?
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[14:45] <n1ko> hello, don't have it but what kind of problems are you having with it?
[14:45] <richrboo> mine works with a desktop Solus debian distro, but doesn't work with the pi
[14:46] <n1ko> doesn't work how? Isn't detected? No firmware?
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[14:46] <n1ko> have you looked for tips on the forums
[14:47] <SzArAk> richrboo: i've got it. Worked out of the box with raspbian
[14:47] <SzArAk> I've been able to configure the connection with that graphical tool provided on desktop with no problems, on the first try
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[14:50] <Kilty> Thanks
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[14:54] <Kilty> Has anyone installed Nagio or Cacti on a Pi and does it work ok? when I say ok I really mean "Not too sluggish".
[14:54] <Kilty> ?
[14:54] <Kilty> :)
[14:54] <Tachyon`> richrboo, is that the worlds smallest thing
[14:55] <Tachyon`> with the mac address etched on the USB port etc.
[14:55] <Tachyon`> er, plug
[14:55] <Tachyon`> if so, I've got one and it just worked on the pi, didn't need to do anything but set it up in X
[14:55] <Tachyon`> (well, or manually in /etc/network/interfaces)
[14:56] <richrboo> my Edimax wifi dongle constantly disconnects, occassionaly flashes blue, but otherwise looks like a power issue
[14:57] <richrboo> wifi scanning brings up nothing. My pi is one from the first batch, so possibly polyfuses resticting power to the dongle
[14:58] <richrboo> at first I thought the dongle was faulty as it didn't work with ubuntu
[14:58] <richrboo> but since got it working straight away with Solus Debian
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[15:00] <Kilty> richrboo, what's your opinion on those wifi dongles? was going to build another pi for myself and I was wondering if it's a good investment?
[15:00] <richrboo> worth a punt at less than ?10, but not really sure why mines not working on the pi
[15:01] <Kilty> Only a tenner, nice one, may as well get one at that price
[15:02] <richrboo> I got mine from Amazon
[15:02] <richrboo> I could do with another pi to test or find another pi owner nearby
[15:02] <Kilty> You can get them from the Pi Hut as well, not sure about the price from there though
[15:02] <richrboo> anyone remember someone had a map of pi users?
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[15:03] <richrboo> or long shot, but anyone working at the Melbourn Science Park near Cambridge with a Pi?
[15:03] <huene> yes. there was a link somewhere, somewhen
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[15:04] * Kilty is north of the border
[15:04] <Kilty> :)
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[15:10] <Kilty> Has anyone installed LAMP on there pi, if so how does it run?
[15:10] <bobslaede> Hi. Ive tried to use the edimax wireless adapter for my pi, but no matter which wireless network i connect to, i dont seem to get any dns servers.
[15:11] <Kilty> Don't want to waste my time if it's not up to the job you see
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[15:12] <Kilty> bobslaede, how you tried connecting it via ethernet ?
[15:12] <bobslaede> Kilty: yeah, that works just fine
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[15:12] <bobslaede> Kilty: as soon as i unplug the wired connection, i have no dns
[15:12] <Kilty> when it connects to your wireless access point, can you ping your router?
[15:13] <bobslaede> Kilty: yes, but only the router, and other local stuff, nothing beyond that
[15:13] <Kilty> strange
[15:13] <bobslaede> Kilty: but i can connect to my phone (acting as a wireless access point) with the same result
[15:13] <bobslaede> Kilty: yes, very strange
[15:13] <Kilty> have you tried to put the dns entries in manually ?
[15:13] <bobslaede> so I have tried to wireless networks with the same result
[15:14] <bobslaede> Kilty: yes, with no luck
[15:14] <Kilty> can you ping external ip?
[15:14] <bobslaede> no
[15:14] <Kilty> ahhh right
[15:14] <Kilty> so it's missing a default route
[15:14] <Kilty> ?
[15:15] <bobslaede> possibly
[15:15] <Kilty> if you type ip route at the command prompt, what does it say?
[15:16] <bobslaede> 192.168.43.0/24 dev wlan0 proto kernel scope link src 192.168.43.198
[15:16] <bobslaede> for the wireless
[15:16] <bobslaede> 192.168.43.1 is my phone
[15:16] <bobslaede> which has internet access of course :)
[15:17] <Kilty> Your missing the default route
[15:17] <bobslaede> default via 192.168.2.1 dev eth0 proto static
[15:17] <bobslaede> but thats only for eth0 then right?
[15:17] <Kilty> yep
[15:17] <bobslaede> ugh
[15:18] <bobslaede> how can i fix this?
[15:20] <Kilty> I found a couple of options on this site.
[15:20] <Kilty> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/15001/setup-wlan-interface-on-debian
[15:21] <Kilty> might be worth doing a google search though
[15:21] <Kilty> It's fixable now, since you know what the problem is
[15:21] <bobslaede> yeah :) thank you!
[15:21] <Kilty> NP
[15:22] <Kilty> let me know how you get on with that
[15:22] <bobslaede> i will :)
[15:22] <Kilty> If you find a decent website about it that is :-)
[15:22] <bobslaede> gotta pick up the kids in a few minutes, so will probably have to wait till later to try to fix it
[15:22] <Kilty> :-)
[15:23] <Kilty> Something I need to do later on today :-)
[15:24] <Kilty> bobslaede, http://www.rjsystems.nl/en/2100-adv-routing.php
[15:24] <Kilty> might be worth a read as well
[15:24] <Kilty> tells you the syntax for adding a default route
[15:25] <bobslaede> thanks!
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[15:28] <peluke> yawn ...
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[15:36] <gazzwi86> Hi all
[15:37] <adekto> hi
[15:37] <gazzwi86> I have an ir distance sensor
[15:37] <gazzwi86> I have a couple of questions
[15:39] <gazzwi86> here is the data sheet
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[15:39] <gazzwi86> http://www.sharpsma.com/webfm_send/1208
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[15:39] <adekto> im looking into cross platform games, and idk what i can use, i also want to do play on the pi, but not using python
[15:39] <gazzwi86> I am sending it 5.5v and expecting to see up to readings up to 80cm
[15:39] <gazzwi86> I'm only getting about 20cm
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[15:39] <gazzwi86> Anyone guesses as to why?
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[15:43] <adekto> is anyone even here?
[15:43] <Kilty> most of the people here are idle at the moment
[15:43] <Kilty> Seems to be anyway
[15:43] <Kilty> :-)
[15:43] <peluke> it's not returning 5.5v to the pi is it?
[15:44] <Kilty> apart from peluke that is :-)
[15:44] <peluke> yea i'm barely awake
[15:44] * Kilty is back in a bit
[15:44] <Kilty> coffee needed
[15:44] <adekto> oke :) ehm u know any none python ways to program games for pi?
[15:45] <peluke> nope
[15:45] <gazzwi86> peluke: nah max of 3. somethng
[15:45] <adekto> ow oke
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[15:50] <cdan> does anyone know what package I have to install to get OpenGL dev libraries ?
[15:51] <cdan> I am trying to compile something from source code and I get this error message from cmake: Could NOT find OpenGL (missing: OPENGL_gl_LIBRARY)
[15:51] <adekto> update ur drivers?
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[15:51] <cdan> adekto, no, I am trying to compile the latest stable squeak VM
[15:52] <adekto> wel u need opengl es2 or somthing?
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[15:53] <cdan> I have installed mesa-common-dev but it does not help
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[15:54] <adekto> sorry i cant help u :(
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[15:57] <Kilty> cdan, you tried this site http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=729335
[15:57] <Kilty> IT suggests libgl1-mesa-dev, libglu1-mesa-dev, mesa-common-dev
[15:58] <Kilty> Don't know if that's any good to you ?
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[16:02] <adekto> can the raspery pi work wit webgl?
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[16:07] <cdan> Kilty, I think those are the right packages. Thx for the link
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[16:09] <cdan> adekto, I think the browser has to offer support for webgl
[16:10] <adekto> wel do the tiny browsers suport it on pi?
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[16:16] <cdan> adekto, I have read somewhere that raspbian web browsers do not support HTML5 yet, so I doubt they support webgl, but I am not sure, it is jus a guess
[16:17] <adekto> ok
[16:17] <adekto> thx
[16:17] <cdan> Kilty, it did work
[16:17] <Kilty> Excellent
[16:18] <cdan> adekto, check this out http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/oleg-romashin
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[16:19] <adekto> yea its not realy whatim looking for
[16:19] <adekto> lol
[16:20] <cdan> what do you mean ?
[16:21] <adekto> wel i actualy just need a graphics sytem, so i can know if i need to leurn c c++ or another
[16:23] <axion> firefox os supports webgl
[16:23] <axion> on pi
[16:23] <axion> supposedly
[16:23] <adekto> ok
[16:24] <axion> not the browser
[16:24] <cdan> webgl is a javascript API as far as I know, so you need javascript
[16:24] <axion> webgl is essential GLES 2
[16:24] <axion> essentially
[16:24] <adekto> jes but its probebly slow on pi
[16:25] <cdan> if you want to use OpenGL then I am sure there are bindings to almost all high level programming languages
[16:25] <axion> javascript rpc calls should not be the bottleneck.
[16:25] <adekto> but what do u use on pi?
[16:25] <cdan> pi's GPU support opengl in the hardware
[16:25] <cdan> so it should be fast
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[16:26] <adekto> oke then but what compiled leanguage is prefered on pi?
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[16:27] <cdan> python, java, C++
[16:27] <axion> i prefer lisp
[16:27] <axion> pick your pick
[16:27] <[SLB]> compiled
[16:27] <adekto> ok
[16:27] <adekto> c++ it is
[16:27] <cdan> lisp is a good choice too
[16:27] <adekto> thx
[16:27] <cdan> noooooo
[16:28] <axion> all of those are compiled
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[16:28] <cdan> lisp, python is much better
[16:28] <adekto> why?
[16:28] <cdan> why do you need compiled
[16:28] <axion> lisp compiles to C, bytecode or machine code. python/java compile to bytecode
[16:29] <cdan> well just a prefference :) but if you are starting with programming than do yourself a favour and do not take the jard way
[16:29] <adekto> i just like compiled better, since i dont like people digging inmy code
[16:29] <axion> they are all though
[16:29] <adekto> like in lua u_u
[16:29] <cdan> :( not a good approach in my opinio
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[16:30] <linuxstb> adekto: People digging in your code is a good thing.
[16:30] <cdan> +1
[16:30] <adekto> not from comercial point
[16:30] <linuxstb> Depends.
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[16:31] <cdan> just keep in mind that the c++ compiler + the whole OS running on pi is open source
[16:31] <cdan> and people do dig in it
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[16:31] <cdan> without it you would not be able to start your own digging for only ~25$ or so
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[16:32] <adekto> i never dig into others stuff
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[16:32] <linuxstb> adekto: If your intention is to try and make money by selling an app/game/whatever for the Pi, then good luck. I don't think there is a culture of buying software amongst Pi users.
[16:32] <adekto> ?
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[16:33] <adekto> its not only pi
[16:33] <cdan> adekto, you should, It the best way to learn
[16:33] <Elspuddy> any one know how to make tightvnc on the pi so i can copy and pate links to what pc iv vns-ing in from ?
[16:33] <linuxstb> adekto: OK, but you're in the Pi channel, so I assumed you were talking Pi.
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[16:33] <adekto> yes
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[16:34] <adekto> i want to eurn from it, else i cant work on it
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[16:35] <cdan> to whom it may concern: I was able to compile the stack SqueakVM and run the PharoSmalltalk 1.4 image on Pi
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[16:36] <adekto> what is that?
[16:36] <axion> nice on smalltalk
[16:36] <cdan> smalltalk yes
[16:36] <cdan> I hope too see JIT support for ARM asap
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[16:38] <cdan> adekto, another PI option for the near future http://www.pharo-project.org/home
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[16:38] <cdan> I have to go now, see you later
[16:39] <adekto> Smalltalk-inspired
[16:39] <adekto> what dous that mean?
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[16:43] <bobslaede> Kilty: if I boot without wired network, everything works just fine
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[16:43] <bobslaede> Kilty: and my route is added to wlan0 instead of eth0
[16:43] <Kilty> bobslaede, excellent
[16:43] <Kilty> :-)
[16:43] <bobslaede> so far so good
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[16:44] * Kilty is currently writing instructions on Setting up Ipv6 tunnels on his Pi :-D
[16:45] <Kilty> When I say tunnels I'm of course only referring to Hurricane Electric tunnels
[16:45] <Kilty> as that's the only one I'm using at the moment
[16:45] <Kilty> :-)
[16:45] <axion> ny time server?
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[16:52] <arcanescu> with the hardfloat image, you can still apt-get packages right? or there is a more fundamental difference?
[16:53] <arcanescu> could i use the soft float file system with a hardfloat kernel image?
[16:53] <Kilty> soft float file system ?
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[16:53] <arcanescu> well, the file system that came with the soft float image
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[16:54] <arcanescu> i didnt phrase that very well
[16:54] <Kilty> :)
[16:54] <arcanescu> or thats just not possible
[16:54] <Kilty> apt-get should work fine with both kernel
[16:54] <Kilty> soft and hard
[16:54] <Kilty> float that is
[16:54] <arcanescu> i only ask because it said not for beginners
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[16:56] <nid0> the only one thats "not for beginners" is the arch image
[16:56] <nid0> which is a different os entirely
[16:56] <arcanescu> and that is the HF image
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[16:56] <nid0> the hard-float raspbian image is functionally the same as the soft-float debian wheezy image
[16:57] <nid0> except with hard float
[16:57] <arcanescu> hmmmm but on the rpi/downloads i dont see the hf wheezy image
[16:57] <nid0> its the one that isnt soft float.
[16:57] <arcanescu> only softfloat and a beginners image followed by
[16:57] <arcanescu> the arch linux and riscos
[16:58] <nid0> theres raspbian wheezy (this is hard float), soft-float wheezy, arch, and riscos
[16:58] <arcanescu> If you???re just starting out, this is the image we recommend you use > i think this is the one you are referring to
[16:58] <arcanescu> right
[16:58] <nid0> yes, thats raspbian and its hard float.
[16:58] <peluke> arcanescu: they all work the same; aside from riscos. the hard float will crunch numbers faster
[16:59] <peluke> other than that they all function identical.
[16:59] <arcanescu> peluke: i dont have number as such, but im getting this crash from one of my devices
[16:59] <arcanescu> and this crash dosent actually happen at start
[16:59] <arcanescu> its random takes abt half n hour to kick in
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[16:59] <peluke> and if you remove it it doesnt crash?
[16:59] <arcanescu> i have not been able to workout whats causing that hence throwing stuff at the problem
[17:00] <peluke> how about just unloading the device driver
[17:00] <arcanescu> peluke: well yes
[17:00] <peluke> but leavign it connected
[17:00] <arcanescu> http://pastebin.com/u3MGRDYg
[17:00] <peluke> what device is it?
[17:00] <arcanescu> hvr 1900 pvrusb
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[17:07] <peluke> does it work on a diffrent debian based machine? else I dunno
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[17:12] <gordonDrogon> afternoon.
[17:15] <peluke> morning!
[17:15] <peluke> and a rather cool morning at that
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[17:16] <gordonDrogon> it's just damp here.
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[17:19] <arcanescu> by default is raspi-copies-and-fills enabled?
[17:19] <arcanescu> and what happens if i remove it will it use the standard memcpy memmove from libc?
[17:23] <gordonDrogon> try it :)
[17:23] <gordonDrogon> let us know how you get on :)
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[17:29] <arcanescu> gordonDrogon: was that a trick statement :) ?
[17:29] <gordonDrogon> well - the world loves an experiment!
[17:29] <arcanescu> my question was if iremove the fills and copies does it revert back to libc based memcpy and move?
[17:30] <arcanescu> gordonDrogon: in my above paste the problem seems to be coming from memcpy.... afaict...
[17:30] <gordonDrogon> I don't know how it works, so I don't know, but to find out, go ahead and try it ..
[17:30] <arcanescu> i am now :)
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[17:33] <gordonDrogon> any joy?
[17:33] <arcanescu> nothing changed atm
[17:33] <arcanescu> its just uninstalled for now and im running my test
[17:33] <arcanescu> to see if crashing occurs
[17:33] <arcanescu> :]
[17:34] <arcanescu> it takes a while before it crashes
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[17:40] <gordonDrogon> right. I was going to do something about the 2nd animal mentioned here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIyixC9NsLI
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[17:40] <gordonDrogon> so I'd best get on with it.
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[17:55] <Kilty> time for me to depart
[17:55] <Kilty> toodles
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[18:22] <rikkib> Sat Nov 24 06:21:45 NZDT 2012
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[18:22] <rikkib> Uggg Woke up to early again
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[18:25] <MalMen> hello
[18:25] <MalMen> any distro to only remote desktop ?
[18:26] <ShiftPlusOne> any of them
[18:26] <MalMen> i want a distro to only start rdesktop and access to windows system
[18:26] <MalMen> is that fast ?
[18:27] <MalMen> only need X to run rdesktop, right ?
[18:27] <nirox> Looking for a light terminal client distro?
[18:27] <ShiftPlusOne> the best way is to try it and see
[18:27] <MalMen> nirox yes :)
[18:28] <nirox> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=raspberry+pi+rdesktop
[18:29] <nirox> 2 and 3th there would fit your question i think
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[18:55] <peluke> isnt it odd the computer world continues to go full circle every few years always coming back to terminal based computing..
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[19:05] <danergo> hi guys! I'm trying to use lirc with my beloved pi, but unfortunately it doesn't work. I find it hard to debug where the problem is. irw is showing nothing when I press buttons on my logitech harmony
[19:05] <danergo> lsmod says lirc_dev and lirc_rpi is inserted
[19:05] <danergo> I have a homebuilt IR receiver, tsop 34836
[19:06] <danergo> this receiver is working with the same remote in one of my other electric system.
[19:06] <danergo> so, how can I debug this?
[19:06] <danergo> do you have any idea?
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[19:32] <danergo> so, lirc? anyone?
[19:32] <mythos> i never got lirc working on any linux <.<
[19:33] <mythos> it's black magic, for sure
[19:33] <jagginess> um.. the checkusm isnt the same as on the site.. (i cant confirm my checksum on the forum? )
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[19:53] <antlarr> hi
[19:53] <ShiftPlusOne> hey
[19:53] <antlarr> anybody knows what's the max speed of the sd card reader in the raspberry pi ?
[19:54] <antlarr> I'm thinking on buying a fast SD card and just thought that maybe there's no need to spend much in a faster card if the reader will not support it
[19:55] <ShiftPlusOne> To put it gently, the sd card drivers or hardware are not reliable enough for you to care that much. Chances are it will corrupt it sooner or later anyway.
[19:55] <Gr33n3gg> you can put a class 10 in the pi
[19:56] <Gr33n3gg> sdxc too
[19:56] <antlarr> But I've seen class 10 cards marked as 30 MB/s and others marked as 45 MB/s
[19:56] <antlarr> is it worth it going for 45 MB/s ?
[19:56] <Gr33n3gg> I have a class 4 in mine right now
[19:57] <antlarr> ShiftPlusOne: I guess you mean they're not reliable when going faster
[19:57] <Gr33n3gg> its not deathly slow, but I think a class 10 would decrease boot time
[19:57] <antlarr> I hope it's reliable in general :)
[19:57] <ShiftPlusOne> antlarr: no, just overall.
[19:57] <antlarr> you're scaring me
[19:57] <Disconnect> antlarr: from what i've heard the sd interface is pretty slow on the pi to begin with, so you might be better just booting off sd (kernel/initrd) and running off usb
[19:57] <ShiftPlusOne> It's fine, just don't store anything essential on it. Maybe go for an external HD instead if you must.
[19:57] <peluke> i have a class 10; it boots quick =D
[19:57] <antlarr> I see...
[19:57] <antlarr> I didn't expect that...
[19:58] <peluke> best buy had a sale for 8gb cards for 11 bucks ea
[19:58] <Gr33n3gg> micro sd might be cheaper
[19:59] <antlarr> I was thinking on getting a 16 GB or even 32 GB ... but in that case... I guess I'll get a small one and keep the system on an usb ...
[19:59] <Gr33n3gg> some of them come with a SD card adapater as well
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[19:59] <antlarr> I read something about microsd giving more problems
[19:59] <antlarr> (with adapters, of course)
[20:00] <peluke> Timing buffered disk reads: 56 MB in 3.02 seconds = 18.53 MB/sec
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[20:00] <gordonDrogon> I'm not sure the Pi can read faster than 20MB/sec anyway.
[20:00] <peluke> Timing cached reads: 322 MB in 2.01 seconds = 160.13 MB/sec
[20:00] <Gr33n3gg> antlarr: the adapters are just to accommodate the micro sd card's size, there's no voodoo
[20:01] <akSeya> folks, any idea when next batch will be available on newark?
[20:01] <peluke> those are on a Sandisk Ultra 8gb card.
[20:01] <gordonDrogon> peluke, the cached read speed isn't really relevant to getting data off the sd card in the first place though.
[20:01] <gordonDrogon> Timing buffered disk reads: 60 MB in 3.05 seconds = 19.64 MB/sec
[20:01] <gordonDrogon> that's sandisk ultra 4GB though.
[20:01] <peluke> gordonDrogon: correct; fun number regardless
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[20:02] <akSeya> or.. is there anyone in NY or Orlando selling two 512 raspi?
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[20:04] <antlarr> ok, thanks a lot to everyone! I guess I'll just go for a cheap class 10 card
[20:04] <Gr33n3gg> tigerdirect has a 64GB sd card for $28, class 10
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[20:06] <gordonDrogon> personally I'd stick to a class 6, but hey...
[20:10] <Elspuddy> are there any precompiled frountends for mame on the pi ?
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[20:15] <ShiftPlusOne> Elspuddy: I don't see it in archlinux, but it is in AUR, so it should be fairly trivial to install in arch.
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[20:17] <Morblias> i'm looking for something fun to do with my rPi. I was thinking maybe something with LEDs. any ideas? I'm pretty new to linux too so just learning
[20:18] <Elspuddy> ShiftPlusOne, not useing arc, but whezzy :)
[20:18] <ShiftPlusOne> Elspuddy: I know, but nobody replied so I figured I may as well throw that out there.
[20:19] <Elspuddy> ah, kk :)
[20:20] <axion> Morblias: make a colored led remembering game, like "Simon" :)
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[20:30] <peluke> booting RiscOS
[20:30] <peluke> it's funny lookin
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[20:36] <gordonDrogon> I have a simon game on my ladder board..
[20:36] <gordonDrogon> written in basic..
[20:36] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/the-raspberry-ladder-board/#
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[20:37] <gordonDrogon> https://git.drogon.net/?p=ladder;a=blob_plain;f=simon.rtb;hb=HEAD
[20:37] <gordonDrogon> load of fun :)
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[20:38] <luc4> Hi! Anyone who knows what the current state of gst-omx for Pi is? I just tried it and it seems quite deluding. I just could play a 320x180 h264 video. 480p is not working it seems.
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[20:41] <Elspuddy> paste.ubuntu.com/1380247 <-- just tryed an over clock
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[20:43] <scummos> <ot>does anyone happen to know the magnetic permeability of wood? it's probably ~1, isn't it?</ot>
[20:44] <ShiftPlusOne> I would've thought it's the same as that of air O_o
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[20:45] <ShiftPlusOne> 1.00000043
[20:45] <ShiftPlusOne> compared to 1.00000037 of air
[20:46] <ShiftPlusOne> (thanks wikipedia)
[20:46] <ShiftPlusOne> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permeability_(electromagnetism)#Values_for_some_common_materials
[20:47] <pksato> Only curiosity, or for some application?
[20:48] <scummos> ShiftPlusOne: ah, it is in the english article ;) cool, thanks
[20:48] <scummos> so it's probably neglectable :D
[20:48] <ShiftPlusOne> yup
[20:48] <scummos> pksato: I have a small coil which is wire around a toothpick
[20:48] <scummos> and I wondered whether the toothpick introduces an error ;)
[20:49] <scummos> (for a board which is being controlled by the raspberry pi -- so it's not totally offtopic!)
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[20:49] <ShiftPlusOne> We don't really care about being offtopic around here O_o
[20:50] <peluke> as long as its interesting
[20:50] <pksato> wood can absorb humidity. Using RPi to "smell" magnetic field?
[20:50] <ShiftPlusOne> No, boring topics are especially welcome.
[20:51] <Armand> lol
[20:51] <Armand> In that case, I might as well tell you... I have a friend building a control board for my solar tracking setup. :D
[20:51] <scummos> ;D
[20:52] <Armand> It is for Pi, so.... :P
[20:52] <scummos> pksato: no, not really. it's just a coil I needed. it actually does impedance matching for the RF output of an ADF4350 frequency synthesizer
[20:52] <scummos> but i found a nice three-axis 16 bit 0.1uT magnetometer for just two euros!
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[20:52] <scummos> I'll try that out tomorrow
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[20:53] <scummos> (should be well in range of the earth's magnetic field -- so probably you can measure its absolute rotation in space ;)
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[20:53] <pksato> scummos: Use a cotton swab rod. more stable.
[20:53] <Armand> scummos, I only understood half of that. :P
[20:53] <scummos> pksato: what's that, a swab rod?
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[20:53] <scummos> pksato: nah, I'll redo the whole circuit anyways and I ordered some SMD coils
[20:53] <ShiftPlusOne> Like... an ear swab?
[20:54] * scummos doesn't know the word
[20:54] * scummos goes look it up
[20:54] <Armand> cue tips..
[20:54] <scummos> oh, yeah, I see
[20:54] <ShiftPlusOne> an ear picking stick.
[20:54] * Armand is learning "Americanisms" :P
[20:54] <Gr33n3gg> "cotton swab"
[20:55] <pksato> Yes, ear swab.
[20:55] <Armand> We call them cotton buds.
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[20:56] <ShiftPlusOne> Bah... the sun is being obnoxious and going in my eyes >=/
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[20:57] <Syliss> anyone used ebay sniping programs before?
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[20:58] <gordonDrogon> +1 for cotton buds ...
[20:58] <gordonDrogon> Syliss, Yes, I have.
[20:58] <Syliss> what prog? did it work?
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> Hm. hang on I'll check - months and months ago.
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> Syliss, esniper under linux. Yes, it worked.
[20:59] <Syliss> okay cool
[21:00] <Syliss> client wants to use one, but I've never needed one so didn't have a clue what to use
[21:00] <gordonDrogon> the last thing I bought with it was a Raspberry Pi..
[21:00] <Syliss> lol
[21:01] <pksato> Just get this http://www.buyincoins.com/new_en/details/hdmi-male-to-vga-female-video-converter-adapter-cable-w-chipset-for-pc-dvd-hdtv-product-14470.html , I hope that does not burn my RPi.
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[21:01] <gordonDrogon> yup. I was one of the mugs who bought an ebay one :)
[21:01] <Syliss> nice
[21:02] <Syliss> he is running a mac, but i just set up an old xp laptop for him, so he will have to use the win machine for it i guess
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[21:02] <gordonDrogon> wow. people are still selling them on ebay!
[21:02] <Syliss> yep
[21:02] <gordonDrogon> I used it under linux..
[21:02] <Syliss> I'm thinking of selling my with the lap dock
[21:03] <Syliss> well he hates computers (even tho he is a dj) and I'm not going to subject him to linux right now
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[21:03] <scummos> nah don't give linux to people who hate computers
[21:03] <scummos> "they're not worth it" ;D
[21:03] <Syliss> exactly
[21:04] <Syliss> i am happy he is using mac and not windows tho
[21:04] <Armand> Give them a PS3 instead.. far more productive. :P
[21:04] <gordonDrogon> popping out for some food..
[21:04] <Syliss> he works too much, makes guitars too so gaming is not in his time frame
[21:05] <CelticTurnip> g'day all
[21:05] <Armand> electric or accoustic ?
[21:05] <Syliss> both
[21:05] <Armand> Hey, CelticTurnip .o/
[21:05] <Armand> Ohh, nice. :)
[21:06] <Syliss> i thing more of the former tho
[21:06] <Syliss> think*
[21:06] <Armand> I did have a 12-string Gibson accoustic, but I lost it. :(
[21:06] <Syliss> nice
[21:06] <Syliss> i can't play the guitar to save my life
[21:06] <Armand> Me neither, but I was learning
[21:06] <Armand> I need another guitar now.
[21:06] <Syliss> well you can check out what he has at his site (which i maintain haha)
[21:07] <Armand> My brother has a simple 6, but he's real touchy about it. ?_?
[21:08] <scummos> Syliss: the time where it had been preferable that people used mac instead of windows is long over
[21:08] <Syliss> i prefer it because i use mac
[21:08] <scummos> if I had the choice between microsoft ruling the computer world and apple doing, then I'd select microsoft for sure
[21:09] <Syliss> yeah
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[21:09] <scummos> (aka "better keep the status quo than letting apple get more power")
[21:09] <Syliss> i still like my mbp, doesn't help that it was free
[21:09] <scummos> yeah no question that their hardware is awesome ;P
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[21:09] <scummos> or better, "most other hardware sucks"
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[21:09] <Syliss> Armand: his site is wayneguitars.com
[21:10] <Syliss> i just like that it works well, battery life is awesome, i can run any os
[21:10] <Syliss> their customer service is amazing.
[21:10] <Armand> Nice. :D
[21:10] <Armand> US ?
[21:11] <Armand> obvious... ? :P
[21:11] <Syliss> yep, but he ships world wide
[21:11] <Armand> I'll wait until I get there. ;)
[21:11] <Syliss> ah kk
[21:11] <Armand> I'll be moving to NJ some time this year.
[21:11] <Syliss> ah cool
[21:11] <Armand> Next, rather.. lol
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[21:14] <scummos> why does farnell not have cheap two-sided raw PCB
[21:14] <scummos> that's ridiculous
[21:14] <ShiftPlusOne> Meh, ebay?
[21:15] <scummos> nah, I'll buy them in the local electronics shop then ;p
[21:15] <scummos> they're far cheaper there (!)
[21:15] <ShiftPlusOne> wow ok
[21:15] <scummos> they want 9 euros for 220x100
[21:15] <ShiftPlusOne> wouldn't expect that
[21:15] <scummos> that's a joke
[21:16] <scummos> reichelt.de (another shop) has 300x200 for 4,35
[21:16] <scummos> oh and farnell is +18% tax
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[21:25] <biberao> hi
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[21:33] <Syliss> ouch
[21:34] <Cheery> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=23634&p=220217#p220217
[21:34] <Cheery> I were looking for PADD. :)
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[21:39] <ShiftPlusOne> Are there any important differences between NFS and CIFS/samba ?
[21:39] <ShiftPlusOne> As in is there any reason to use one over the other on a system which has both available?
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[21:40] <Xark> ShiftPlusOne: samba only makes sense when Windows is involved (it doesn't keep Unix permissions well). nfs is much better for Linux I believe.
[21:41] <gordonDrogon> NFS has user ID issues when you mount on PCs with a different /etc/passwd, however that's overcome these days.
[21:42] <endou> Yeah I prefer NFS over samba too
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> If Linux to Linux use NFS. Linux to Win, use Samba.
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> You can run both Samba and NFS-server on the same server for the best of both worlds.
[21:43] <gordonDrogon> I do this frequently - both in the home/office and for clients.
[21:44] <endou> Well I think windows 7 has NFS support builtin, you can mount nfs shares just like any other network drive.
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[21:44] <CelticTurnip> ShiftPlusOne: it's probably more important to tell people what you're trying to do, than ask vague questions? Are you setting up a file server? Are you streaming to a Pi?
[21:45] <CelticTurnip> what you want to do will give you a more valid response than just doing a poll on NFS versus CIFS
[21:45] <CelticTurnip> but hey I'm with gordonDrogon I vote for both :P
[21:46] <gordonDrogon> what annoys me is that I remember using NFS on a PC under DOS over 20 years ago - then it sort of went out of fashion...
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[21:49] <CelticTurnip> 20 years ago I was still holding on to the dream that the Amiga would be around forever :)
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[21:50] <ShiftPlusOne> sorry, was afk for a bit. Just got a NAS which I can connect to through either, so I was just wondering if there's an advantage to one over the other in general. No need to worry about permissions or anything like that, just to store backups on.
[21:51] <CelticTurnip> depending on the setup NFS can use a lot less CPU and be faster
[21:51] <ShiftPlusOne> NFS it is then, thanks.
[21:52] <ShiftPlusOne> there's also AFP, but meh.
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[21:52] <CelticTurnip> you can use that for your Macs time machine backups, which will then randomly fail every 2 weeks like they do here :P
[21:53] <ShiftPlusOne> Nuh, Nuh, no macs here. My computer running Mint recognised it straight away and can mount it without any problems.
[21:53] * SpeedEvil wonders if you can attach other CSI cameras.
[21:53] <SpeedEvil> or if it will be a blob supporting only the one.
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[21:58] <Lobs> anyone know of any media player software apart from omxplayer that supports gpu offloading on the pi?
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[22:18] <Kilty> evening
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[22:19] <Kilty> Anyone set up a pi as a tor server yet ?
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[22:19] <peluke> thats pretty silly as it's pretty limited in bandwith
[22:20] <peluke> need more pretty in the sentance
[22:20] * ShiftPlusOne thinks it's pretty enough.
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[22:29] <spiderweb> hi. are there plans to release raspberry pi with a v7 arm processor?
[22:30] <ShiftPlusOne> None that have been announced
[22:30] <ShiftPlusOne> And I don't think they would announce something like that even if they were working on it.
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[22:31] <mdim> is this diagram at the wikipedia article outdated? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Raspberrypi_video_API_03.svg
[22:31] <ShiftPlusOne> spiderweb: I wouldn't hold my breath for something like that any time soon.
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[22:31] <spiderweb> ShiftPlusOne: ok, thanks! :-)
[22:31] <ShiftPlusOne> mdim: yes.
[22:31] <ShiftPlusOne> mdim: all of the 'closed source' stuff is now open.
[22:31] <ShiftPlusOne> but other than that, no.
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[22:31] <mdim> ShiftPlusOne: so the answer is yes :)
[22:33] <ShiftPlusOne> yup
[22:35] <mdim> btw, is it possible to make it all yellow, i.e. to push broadcom/whomever to release the code?
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[22:36] <ShiftPlusOne> No, our best bet is reverse engineering it and getting an open source alternative.
[22:36] <ShiftPlusOne> (for the firmware)
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[22:38] <mdim> any effort done so far in this reverse engineering?
[22:38] <ShiftPlusOne> yes, it looks like it's coming along nicely. Nothing practical yet, but they are documenting things fairly well.
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[22:39] <ShiftPlusOne> https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv
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[22:40] <ShiftPlusOne> They do have functional code running purely in the GPU already. They're working on getting gcc, binutils and all of that sort of stuff, which is impressive given how little documentation there is from broadcom.
[22:41] <SpeedEvil> awesome
[22:42] <ShiftPlusOne> Yeah, I am pretty excited about it.
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[22:43] <Neutron18> is there some minimalistic image of raspbian that will fit on smaller SD cards, e.g. 512MB and smaller?
[22:44] <Neutron18> one without the desktop and graphical applications for example
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[22:51] <home> ShiftPlusOne: what?
[22:51] <ShiftPlusOne> home: where?
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[23:02] <Habbie> Neutron18, should be pretty easy to make in any case
[23:02] <Neutron18> I found some here :P http://www.raspbian.org/HexxehImages
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[23:02] <Habbie> ah hexxeh
[23:02] <Habbie> always the hero
[23:03] <Habbie> Neutron18, make sure to read that whole page, apparently the image lacks a bunch of automation the full images do have
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[23:04] <Neutron18> yeah :(
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[23:15] * CelticTurnip grumbles something about "cleaning up dork room, cables get caught, monitor falls of desk and shatters..."
[23:15] * CelticTurnip then swears internally :)
[23:15] <Habbie> i read dark room
[23:15] <Habbie> and was wondering
[23:15] <Habbie> who puts hardware in there
[23:16] <CelticTurnip> haha, most of the boxes actually run headless - only the Windows box was hooked up to a monitor
[23:16] <CelticTurnip> oh well, shiet happens :)
[23:16] <CelticTurnip> sounds like a good excuse to get a Dell U2711 27"
[23:17] <CelticTurnip> as long as I have a notebook and serial cable for the other machines I'm happy :D
[23:17] <ShiftPlusOne> I think the foul language rule applies to dyslexics too.
[23:17] <CelticTurnip> the foul language rule is lame, it's 2012 ... it's how people speak :P
[23:17] <ShiftPlusOne> lame as it may be, it's still there.
[23:18] <CelticTurnip> oh well kick me :P
[23:18] <ShiftPlusOne> Well we tend to have the warning first, then kicking, then banning and we're not at that stage yet.
[23:18] <ShiftPlusOne> And you know... I don't want to.
[23:18] <CelticTurnip> :)
[23:19] <CelticTurnip> I wonder if the chick would notice if I stole her 24" display and replaced it with a 17"
[23:20] <SpeedEvil> chicks notice 7 inches.
[23:20] <Neutron18> lol
[23:20] * CelticTurnip tries not to laugh, and fails :)
[23:21] <Armand> haha
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[23:26] <Essobi> lol
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[23:31] <Armand> Hot Shots!
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[23:34] <gordonDrogon> and so sexual innuendo is different to the language rule how?
[23:34] <Habbie> i apologise
[23:36] <ShiftPlusOne> gordonDrogon: in my mind it's different. A kid would need to 'get it'.
[23:36] <ShiftPlusOne> In which case it's their own filthy mind.
[23:36] <Habbie> i think that's a fair argument
[23:36] <Habbie> but avoiding it is still better
[23:37] <Habbie> question for the english natives, is 'better still' a better way of phrasing that?
[23:37] <ShiftPlusOne> I'd say so, but I'm not an english native.
[23:39] <Habbie> should i have goomanager write a recovery image?
[23:39] <Habbie> or should i assume the acmeinstaller2 stuff i got in march is ok for it?
[23:39] <Habbie> oops, wrong channel
[23:40] <ShiftPlusOne> ah, no wonder that made no sense
[23:40] <Habbie> sorry :)
[23:40] <Habbie> you have no idea how often people in the wrong channel will still give useful answers ;)
[23:40] <Habbie> the worst is when a question on #lua is perfectly understandable as a python question
[23:40] <Habbie> and my answer makes no sense
[23:41] <ShiftPlusOne> heh
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[23:43] <Luke-Jr> trying to figure out how to get my RPi running; I don't have HDMI, I just want to SSH in
[23:43] <Habbie> i recall that raspbian sets up ssh by default
[23:43] <Habbie> but i could be wrong
[23:44] <Luke-Jr> I added "/etc/init.d/ssh start" to rc.local, but it seems Raspbian doesn't even try to DHCP? :/
[23:44] <linuxstb> Are you using the latest Raspian image (2012-10-28) ?
[23:44] <Peetz0r> raspbian definately does dhcp by default
[23:44] <linuxstb> And definitely enables ssh by default.
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[23:45] <Luke-Jr> linuxstb: yes
[23:46] <Luke-Jr> my router gets no DHCP request
[23:46] <Luke-Jr> hmm
[23:46] <ShiftPlusOne> Do the leds flicker when you power up the pi?
[23:46] <Luke-Jr> I suppose it would help if the other end of my ethernet were actually plugged into my router
[23:46] * Luke-Jr facepalms
[23:46] <Habbie> usually
[23:47] <Habbie> unless you have a really strong powersource
[23:47] <Luke-Jr> heh, I am somewhat disappointed I can't use the power connector as a USB device connection too :p
[23:48] * Luke-Jr wonders if DHCP will automatically retry, or if he needs to power cycle it without a proper shutdown to get it to retry DHCP
[23:48] <ShiftPlusOne> Habbie: nuh that question was to make sure Luke's pi was working properly. I guess the "have you plugged it in?" question didn't occur to me.
[23:48] <Habbie> ShiftPlusOne, :)
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[23:48] <Luke-Jr> all 4 leds are lit
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[23:58] <linuxstb> Luke-Jr: If you have a USB keyboard, you can just plug it in and do CTRL+ALT+DEL
[23:59] <Luke-Jr> so I'm confused by this rpi setup program. where can I find a basic description of *what* "overscan" is?

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