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IRC Log for 2012-12-02

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[0:12] <mervaka> akk: I was joking :) though you could write that module in C and pipe to it
[0:12] <mervaka> or something
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[0:16] <akk> mervaka: Part of what interests me about the rpi is writing howtos, giving talks, making robotics more accessible ... so I'm trying to do as much in python as I can.
[0:16] <akk> (Since that's one of the wins of rpi over arduino.)
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[0:17] <akk> And teaching myself hardware, which is the part where I'm weak.
[0:17] <mervaka> yeah, that's true. access to low level peripherals does rely on good documentation though usually
[0:17] <mervaka> and that's where the rpi is woefully thin.
[0:18] <akk> Yep, there's a lot less documentation than for arduino, for sure.
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[0:19] <mervaka> to be honest, there are better tools for the job when it comes to robotics
[0:19] <akk> (How weak am I on hardware? I just discovered that I soldered my adafruit cobbler with the connector backwards ... ARGH! That'll teach me to do things in a hurry.)
[0:19] <mervaka> oooh
[0:19] <mervaka> that'll be a bitch to remove
[0:19] * akk is contemplating trying to snip a slot into the connector with diagonal cutters so I can plug in the ribbon cable the other way
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[0:20] <piney0> thats a lot of pins to desolder
[0:20] <mervaka> is it a box header?
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[0:20] <akk> I doubt I can desolder that many pins.
[0:21] <akk> yes, box header
[0:21] <damo22> is the plug symmetrical
[0:21] <mervaka> you might be able to lift the plastic box off, and leave the pins intact
[0:21] <akk> so I think if I just snip a slot in the other side of the box, I can use it.
[0:21] <piney0> wont that make the pins 2,1,4,3,6,5, etc?
[0:22] <akk> The pins are symmetrical, side by side (not odd-even).
[0:22] <mervaka> piney0: in that was the case, wouldn't it be on the wrong side?
[0:22] <akk> Maybe I should try wedging a screwdriver under the box, before trying snipping it.
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[0:22] <akk> I guess the worst that happens is I break the box, and then I still have the pins to plug into.
[0:22] <damo22> hang on, if you soldered the pins totally upside down wrt the header, it should work if you plug in the connector upside down right?
[0:22] <mervaka> try heating the box too
[0:22] <piney0> those 3d things mess me up unless i'm right in front of it heh
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[0:23] <akk> Heating how? Like with a heat gun? Might a hairdryer be enough? (I have a heat gun but it's not with me ATM.)
[0:23] <mervaka> depends on the plastic :P
[0:23] <mervaka> try a hairdryer
[0:23] <mervaka> see where it gets you
[0:24] <mervaka> you're only trying to soften the plastic, not melt it
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[0:26] <TheLaughingMan> I am having issues with trying to setup my RaspberryPi w/ my HDTV, my TV has a native resolution of 1366x768 and according to the the elinux wiki there is a DMT mode for that specific resolution but if I manually set it to that mode it doesn't work. I checked w/ tvservice -m DMT and it doesn't display that mode. Is there a way to force it or something?
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[0:28] <damo22> TheLaughingMan: xorg.conf?
[0:28] <jdpond> TheLaughingMan: Well, you could use a bigger hammer . . . :) Have you tried rebooting the system while attached to the TV and the TV set to input from the CPU? They might auto-adjust to each other (actually should).
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[0:29] <damo22> my rpi doesnt seem to detect a monitor at all unless it is booted with the monitor attached (hdmi)
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[0:31] <akk> Wow, this is actually working (with a hairdryer) ... it's gradually slipping off.
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[0:33] <jdpond> damo22: Agreed - if you figure out a way to tell it to manually reset, I'd love to hear it. The only time I can get it to recognize the monitor is if it's connected, listening, and I reboot the rpi.
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[0:33] <akk> It worked! thanks for the suggestion, mervaka -- so much better than trying to snip a new slot.
[0:37] <TheLaughingMan> jdpond: I have rebooted it multiple times with it still hooked up and it defaults to mode 18 1024x768, the mode I want is 81 which is 1366x768 but it doesn't show up as an availiabe option with tvservice
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[0:38] <damo22> i wrote a script that cross compiles a rpi kernel, creates kernel.img, and tars up the headers, modules and firmware so you can install it with one tar command, then clone your source tree onto your pi and compile out of tree modules using that kernel when it is running
[0:38] <akk> jdpond: Does rpi have xrandr installed? On laptops I use xrandr to handle monitor changes.
[0:39] <mervaka> akk: glad that worked :)
[0:39] <mervaka> did the hairdryer help?
[0:39] <akk> Yes, it made a big difference.
[0:39] <akk> The plastic didn't need to be all that hot, just a little hotter than ambient.
[0:39] <frikinz> damo22: nice :)
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[0:40] <jdpond> TheLaughingMan: I found this, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=154640. Looking for something that might help you.
[0:41] <damo22> you just have to execute it in your kernel source tree directory and give it the kernel version eg 3.2.27-rt40
[0:41] <jdpond> akk: yes it does (or at least lxrandr). Let me try it.
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[0:43] <akk> jdpond: Start with just xrandr (or lxrandr, I guess) with no args and see if it sees the monitor, and xrandr --auto to see if it'll automatically reset to what it sees.
[0:43] <akk> But you might have to specify output and resolution.
[0:43] <jdpond> akk: Hate to switch over, I'm using it from my laptop with VNC. Would have to switch over the Alabama/Georgia game.
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[0:47] <frikinz> just discovered ttysnoop. I can now see my ssh session on big screen from my sofa.
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[0:54] <jdpond> akk: good idea, but, "(lxrandr:4636): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:"
[0:56] <akk> jdpond: If you're not the X owner, it seems reasonable for xrandr not to be willing to give you any info about the display.
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[0:56] <akk> (if you're running under X, you should have DISPLAY set and be able to open it)
[0:57] <akk> Or was this for detecting a monitor when X isn't running at all?
[0:57] <jdpond> " sudo -u pi "lxrandr" yields (lxrandr:4670): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[0:58] <akk> Don't sudo, just run it as yourself (if you're in X and have permission to run X apps).
[0:58] <akk> X is one of those strange cases where root actually has less power than the logged-in user.
[0:59] <akk> It's surprisingly hard to do anything X-ish as root (if root isn't the one owning the X session).
[0:59] <jdpond> akk: catch 22 - TV not recognizing rpi, so cant run it from within X
[0:59] <frikinz> sudo -i; ln -s ~pi/.Xauthority
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[0:59] <frikinz> (so that root has X cookie of pi user)
[1:00] <akk> or just su pi, once you're root ... easy enough if you know the logged-in user.
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[1:00] <akk> You're right, that's easy. It's harder if you don't know which user owns the X display.
[1:01] <jdpond> FYI: Pi owns 0, root owns 2, I own 1
[1:01] <jdpond> It's 0 I'm trying to get recognized.
[1:01] <GabrialDestruir_> So any fun distros I can install on my now spare rpi?
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[1:02] <lunra> GabrialDestruir_: RISC OS!
[1:02] <jdpond> I asked this earlier today, but is there any way to get lightdm to come up requesting user login (instead of using lxsession initiator)?
[1:03] <lunra> not a Linux distro, though
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[1:05] <TheLaughingMan> jdpond: Alright I got it working now
[1:05] <jdpond> Cool - how?
[1:05] <TheLaughingMan> I had to add "hdmi_ignore_edid=0xa5000080", to my /boot/config.txt since my TV's edid doesn't report it's native resolution and a possible resolution
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[1:10] <damo22> wow i think i fixed the problem with the kernel config getting clobbered
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[1:12] <damo22> the name of the linux-VERSION directory must match the kernel config, run make mrproper then copy your desired config to linux-VERSION/.config source tree, then cross compile zImage, modules, header_install, modules_install (specifying different paths)
[1:14] <frikinz> ah yes, that was mentionned somewhere, mrproper
[1:14] <frikinz> before moving .config
[1:15] <frikinz> are there any video player with frame buffer support?
[1:15] <damo22> mplayer?
[1:15] <frikinz> yes but it isn't in rasp repository :(
[1:16] <frikinz> oh there's vlc
[1:16] <damo22> i love mplayer
[1:16] <frikinz> so do I
[1:16] <damo22> ever tried with -vo caca?
[1:17] <frikinz> yes, I search for libcaca first :)
[1:17] <frikinz> fbi works but that's only images..
[1:17] <frikinz> its fine, I already can see my photo albums
[1:17] <damo22> xv ?
[1:18] <frikinz> links2 for web browsing but it crashed something somewhere, not sure what, had to reboot :)
[1:18] <damo22> i am compiling a -rt kernel right now to test my script
[1:18] <frikinz> I think xv is not fully free
[1:19] <damo22> and to test -rt
[1:19] <frikinz> I tried overclocking with a usb rootfs. set governor to performance. that helps
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[1:20] <frikinz> But I need to make the cpu work a bit to see if it hits the 85 degre trip point
[1:20] <damo22> it probably wont make a difference with a different irq scheduler according to lars_t__h
[1:20] <damo22> but i want to give it a shot for myself
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[1:21] <damo22> i hate when i cd to the wrong kernel source tree and compile the wrong kernel with the wrong config
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[1:23] <damo22> time for breakfast
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[1:52] <damo22> -rt kernel does not boot
[1:52] <Cykey> Hi. I'm trying to download python-dev with `sudo apt-get install python-dev` on my Raspberry Pi running Raspbian and I just get the following errors: http://pastie.org/5464700 Anyone knows what's up with this?
[1:53] <scummos_> Cykey: run apt-get update
[1:53] <scummos_> this will synchronize the package file cache on your computer with the servers
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[1:54] <scummos_> likely a new patch level for the package has been released since you last updated this cache, and thus apt-get is searching for the old package name, which has been deleted
[1:54] <akk> Or else your net isn't working -- that'll give a Not Found.
[1:54] <scummos_> what? no
[1:54] <scummos_> that will give whatever, a timeout or network unreachable
[1:54] <scummos_> but why should it display not found
[1:54] <damo22> im guessing the rt kernel gets into a deadlock of some sort upon boot, but i cant see the output because the monitor wont turn on
[1:54] <pksato> Cykey: apt-get update
[1:55] <akk> Not display not found, but repository not found.
[1:58] <damo22> sorry was posting my own rants not answering anyones qu
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[2:10] <gajbooks> My computer programming teacher recently got a Pi and she wants the advanced students to make it do something. What would be a good programming project for the Pi?
[2:10] <gajbooks> Preferably one that hasn't been done.
[2:11] <SpeedEvil> several servos, on a mobile platform, to do weeding.
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[2:14] <gajbooks> Sounds awesome, but there aren't any weeds in a classroom, nor in the entire school, they mow everything.
[2:14] <gajbooks> Make a robot with an A.I. and have it program better than anyone ever.
[2:17] <SpeedEvil> I suspect many classrooms have weed.
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[2:19] <pksato> A replica of one of mars rover, that find weeds.
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[2:21] <piney0> raspberry pi controlled coffee pot, implement portions of RFC 2324
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[2:24] <prothon> I have a question for you guys. I have 2 pi's; one works awesome the other is dodgy
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[2:25] <prothon> The dodgy one seems to have the entire USB controller shut off randomly for no reason. I've tested voltage, 4.94Vs
[2:25] <prothon> I've tried different keyboards, different power supplys, different locations, different breakers (just in case)
[2:26] <prothon> I'm about to test the F3 polyfuse to see what the hell has happened.
[2:26] <prothon> Any ideas from the crowd?
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[2:26] <gajbooks> prothon: Tried re-installing the OS to see if that's the problem?
[2:26] <prothon> Yeah
[2:27] <prothon> I've flashed it 3 times, tried known good SD card
[2:27] <prothon> Swaped them.
[2:27] <gajbooks> No idea then.
[2:27] <prothon> Still no dice.
[2:27] <prothon> I think it's a straight up hardware failure.
[2:27] <prothon> I've had it for 3 days.
[2:28] <gajbooks> Try turning up the overclocking, that might help.
[2:28] <prothon> I'll give her a shot once done testing the F3 polyfuse
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[2:30] <plugwash> could well be poor solder joints
[2:30] <plugwash> is this a chineese Pi by any chance?
[2:31] <Nik05> arent all rspi's chinese? :P
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[2:31] <gajbooks> All Pi's are Chinese.
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[2:32] <Nik05> except good dutch pi
[2:32] <Nik05> pie
[2:32] <Nik05> apple pie :)
[2:33] <plugwash> Nik05, umm no http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1925
[2:33] <gajbooks> U.S. Apple pie is yummy if not overly sugared.
[2:34] <SpeedEvil> wait, you eat it?
[2:34] <prothon> Humm
[2:34] <prothon> It says made in china.
[2:34] <Nik05> :P
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[2:34] <prothon> Oh i just read. I thought they were made in the UK
[2:34] <pksato> my first mod related to RPi https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/bJniY1JF3CxjOzzKPegECNMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
[2:34] <Nik05> gajbooks whats is us apple pie?
[2:35] <prothon> Yeah i just tried to ssh into it and it disconnected rather quickly.
[2:35] <gajbooks> Nik05: United States Apple Pie.
[2:35] <pksato> Power RPi from internal monitor psu.
[2:35] <prothon> Oh i'm retarded. I changed the OC to high to test that.
[2:35] <plugwash> All RS Pis are made in china, the RPF claim that "most" farnell Pis are made in the UK but haven't given any information on ratios
[2:36] <gajbooks> How about we plug the Pi into it's own MicroUSB!!!!!!!1111!!one
[2:36] <prothon> Huh?
[2:36] <plugwash> (some farnell Pis are certainly still being made in china)
[2:36] <Nik05> yes ok gajbooks but what is a us apple pie? :P
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[2:36] <damo22> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=18418 RTOS possible...
[2:37] <prothon> Ok she died again. from boot to dead is <2 minutes.
[2:37] <prothon> The pwr light is the only one on.
[2:37] <gajbooks> Nik05: :| It's a pie made in the United States, usually consists of Apple, crust, and filler.
[2:37] <Nik05> what is the "filler"? :P
[2:38] <prothon> Hum i guess i have to contact element 14
[2:38] <gajbooks> Nik05: Corn starch.
[2:38] <prothon> and get an RMA going
[2:38] <damo22> http://www.dex-os.com/DexBasic/DexBasic.htm
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[2:39] <damo22> maybe we need to start coding the os from scratch again
[2:39] <damo22> for rpi
[2:40] <Nik05> as filler...? :S
[2:40] <Nik05> here the apples are the filler
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[2:41] <prothon> damo22: why not just port over hiaku
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[2:41] <SpeedEvil> it is illegal to make food in the USA without 10% by weight corn, or corn products.
[2:41] <damo22> prothon: can you link me
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[2:42] <damo22> prothon: all i get is poetry
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[2:44] <Nik05> talking about apple pie, i still have a piece :D
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[2:44] <damo22> prothon: http://www.haiku-os.org/guides/building/compiling-arm
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[2:45] <gajbooks> SpeedEvil: Nope.
[2:45] <damo22> prothon: do you know if haiku is a real time operating system?
[2:46] <SpeedEvil> gajbooks: the above may have been a joke :-)
[2:46] <gajbooks> SpeedEvil: It may also contain peanuts.
[2:48] <gajbooks> I wonder.
[2:48] * gajbooks is now known as EduardKhil
[2:49] <EduardKhil> YES.
[2:49] <EduardKhil> La, la la la, la la la, la, la la.
[2:49] * SpeedEvil wonders when the a will come out.
[2:50] <prothon> 1 sec
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[2:53] <prothon> damo22: yeah hiaku is a real os
[2:53] <damo22> haiku*
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[2:57] <prothon> yeah sorry
[2:57] <prothon> was typing during a phone call.
[2:57] <damo22> prothon: what aspects make it a real os?
[2:57] <prothon> But haiku is complete(ish) OS writen for the ground up
[2:58] <prothon> damo22: how would you define an OS?
[2:58] <prothon> It has a hand written kernel which is *nix like.
[2:58] <damo22> prothon: that is very cool
[2:58] <prothon> I've seen a few OS' out there that are independent
[2:59] <damo22> prothon: i believe a handwritten kernel that is tuned to the low level toolkit of software on its system is a good os
[2:59] <prothon> haha a man after my own heart :P
[2:59] <prothon> I'm huge into microoptimization
[2:59] <prothon> I'
[2:59] <prothon> I'm pretty anal about things like that.
[3:00] <damo22> prothon: what os do you use?
[3:00] <prothon> Mostly linux based.
[3:01] <damo22> prothon: you have a customised os?
[3:02] <prothon> All except my iphone5. I only bought my iphone5 because they hand layed out the SOC (Apple A6) and hand tweaked ARM7 instruction set.
[3:02] <prothon> Like have I written one? Oh no. I use mostly Debian basd flavors.
[3:03] <prothon> I'm actually a GNU/Linux college teacher.
[3:07] <Dan39> there is such a thing? D:
[3:07] <prothon> Haha yeah.
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[3:07] <prothon> To tell you the truth, the college i work for isn't very OpenSource friendly.
[3:08] <Dan39> hahaha
[3:08] <prothon> Big MSDNAA partners
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[3:08] <Dan39> ya i bet
[3:09] <prothon> I've been trying to get them to switch off of NortonGhost (which they have improperly implemented) to something more OOS
[3:10] <prothon> Opps *OpenSource
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[3:15] <Cial> Hello
[3:15] <prothon> Bonjour
[3:15] <Cial> buenos noches
[3:16] <Cial> anywho, I have a question about powering a Raspi
[3:18] <Cial> Is there any viable way of using some sort of battery pack to power one for long periods of time while connected a wireless interent connection?
[3:20] <SpeedEvil> define long.
[3:20] <prothon> Sure
[3:20] <hrebicek_wfh> depends on how much is long.
[3:20] <SpeedEvil> it needs 2.5w
[3:20] <prothon> And what speed said
[3:20] <SpeedEvil> ish
[3:20] <Cial> long eh well if I could get it going a full 24 hours that would be amazing
[3:20] <SpeedEvil> for 100h, that is 250watt hours. a small car battery
[3:21] <hrebicek_wfh> if not using the GPU 2.5 W is more than enough
[3:21] <HashNuke> aww ya! opencv on raspberry pi. wondering what I can do.
[3:21] <Cial> what if it's headless but both usb ports on a modle B are in use
[3:21] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YUASA-12V-7AH-ELEC-TOY-CAR-ALARM-UPS-BATTERY-NP7-12-/120763733708
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[3:22] <SpeedEvil> that is 80wh, will do a little over a day
[3:22] <hrebicek_wfh> 2.5W x 24h = 60 Wh
[3:22] <SpeedEvil> but, you need a power converter that will convert to 5v, and shut off at 10.8v or so to avoid damage
[3:23] <Cial> ah Im learning all sorts of math tonight
[3:23] <hrebicek_wfh> but 12V is ok for Rpi? I know 5V is ok
[3:24] <prothon> Cial: here's another idea. Use the battery they're suggest and (you'll have to wire it yourself) use a solar panel.
[3:24] <hrebicek_wfh> or add a 12V->5V PWM
[3:24] <HashNuke> what parts do people use to make robot hands? like the ones here - http://mindtrans.narod.ru/hands/hands.htm
[3:25] <SpeedEvil> you need to convert the voltage to 5v
[3:25] <SpeedEvil> and using solar massively complicates
[3:25] <Cial> solar would be fine but I was thinking about putting a power pack to it and throwing it behind something dark
[3:25] <Cial> so no lights
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[3:27] <prothon> Hey solar is an awesome idea, IMO
[3:27] <SpeedEvil> you'd connect the battery, something like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/From-UK-Solar-Controller-Regulator-10A-12V-24V-100W-Panel-Charge-Controller-SO-/140892999039?pt=UK_Gadgets&hash=item20cde08d7f
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[3:27] <SpeedEvil> and a decent car USB 'charger'
[3:29] <SpeedEvil> solar may in most of the UK need a 250w panel, and a a 100Ah 12 v battery to work properly 24*7
[3:29] <pksato> http://www.ebay.com/itm/waterproof-DC-DC-Converter-Regulator-12V-Step-down-to-5V-15W-3A-female-usb-hole-/271107526766?pt=US_Power_Inverters_&hash=item3f1f44906e
[3:29] <SpeedEvil> and even then it may drop out some D's a uh s
[3:29] <SpeedEvil> some days
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[3:30] <prothon> Cial: from what it sounds, you shouldn't pen test with the pi :P
[3:31] <Cial> not 100% sure what you mean by pen test
[3:31] <prothon> Oh, well then never mind :)
[3:31] <Cial> but most of this is hypothetical questioning in nature
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[3:32] <Cial> now that I stop and think are you meaning penetration testing?
[3:32] <prothon> Pen test is a penetration test. It's a legal way that you're hired to hack into something.
[3:32] <Cial> right okay thats what I thought after I sat and thought about it
[3:32] <prothon> The application you are suggesting sounds like a stop and drop with say Aircrack-ng running.
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[3:32] <Cial> nothing that malicious
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[3:32] <Cial> er well depends on who you ask
[3:32] <SpeedEvil> a device with a pen holder, a web cam and a piece of paper to test the pen against.
[3:32] <Cial> more of a stick under something come back later torrent device
[3:33] <prothon> Sniffing open air traffic is illegal in most contrys. :P
[3:33] <prothon> ah I see.
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[3:33] <prothon> Oh man if that's the case you'll need alot more batteries.
[3:33] <Cial> Joy
[3:33] <SpeedEvil> stealing service is also illegal
[3:34] <prothon> P2P would consume quite abit of your CPU time and the constant traffic over a USB wifi stick would also drain it quickly
[3:34] <prothon> and SpeedEvil is completely correct Cial
[3:35] <Cial> Im not gonna drop it in someone's kid's play house and leach their wifi
[3:35] <Cial> *their family's
[3:35] <prothon> We're not grilling you brother, just telling you.
[3:35] <prothon> We give you information and you make an informed decision.
[3:36] <prothon> Not anyones place to tell you what to do once recieving the information.
[3:36] <prothon> Some one once said to me that runing a Linux server meant I was a hacker....
[3:36] * Cial expects cyber police any second
[3:36] <Cial> heh
[3:36] <prothon> And microsoft servers are for the good upstanding people.
[3:37] <Cial> I've herd stories about the evil's of hackers using the linux
[3:37] <prothon> Those jerks.
[3:37] <chithead> the most evil ones are those who use matrix screensavers
[3:37] <Cial> but no public place with free wifi just wanted to place is somewhere where it wouldnt need plugged in all the time
[3:38] <Cial> heh 1337 hacking there
[3:38] <Cial> so if I use any sort of p2p plugging it in would be the best bet then?
[3:38] <Cial> also *place it
[3:38] <Cial> I can not type tonight
[3:38] <prothon> I'd say yes.
[3:38] <prothon> I can't either. This keyboard is starting to get all funky on me.
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[3:39] <Cial> I apprecieat the help, legal advice, and putting up with my vague round about wording of the situation
[3:40] <Cial> also the math lession
[3:40] <prothon> Haha it's all good brother.
[3:40] <prothon> P2P is quite intesnive, espcially on a ARM 700MHz CPU
[3:40] <prothon> and wifi is also intensive.
[3:40] <pksato> A RTG powerd RPi... I need some Pu.
[3:40] <Cial> yeah nothing arround here has considered putting in actual rj-45 jacks
[3:41] <Cial> herp derp wifi
[3:41] <Cial> so....much.... latency
[3:41] <prothon> I just bought a place
[3:41] <prothon> And when i was scoping it out I found a patch panel with full Cat5E strung throughout the house
[3:41] <prothon> realtor didn't even know what it was.
[3:42] <Cial> Brilliant
[3:42] <SpeedEvil> did it go to a bank of supercomputers active in the basement?
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[3:43] <Cial> you make it sound like he bought the legion of doom's old HQ
[3:44] <prothon> haha
[3:44] <prothon> I did build a rack in my garage.
[3:45] <prothon> and a pfsense router with tons of cisco gear
[3:45] <prothon> :D
[3:45] <prothon> oh and i am working on an HPC
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[3:48] <Cial> anways many thanks, I shall take my leave. May pop back in with more questions again some time
[3:48] <Cial> luego o7
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[3:49] <prothon> Ciao!
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[4:39] <pksato> I can talk here?
[4:40] <SpeedEvil> yes
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[4:40] <pksato> tnx.
[4:48] <des2> No but you can type here.
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[7:23] <ParkerR_> piney0, Hola
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[7:27] <ParkerR_> piney0, So much info on that page. Even something I wouldn't have found otherwise http://code.google.com/p/webiopi
[7:27] <ParkerR_> That very cool
[7:27] <ParkerR_> *That's
[7:28] <piney0> yea, I haven't played with that one yet, but definitely cool
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[7:34] <nerxgas> hi
[7:34] <nerxgas> just got my pi
[7:34] <nerxgas> hooray!!!
[7:34] <cerjam> yaypi.
[7:34] <ShiftPlusOne> Hazzah
[7:34] <nerxgas> wheezy was easy enough to set up
[7:35] <cerjam> i got my 512 a few days ago
[7:35] <cerjam> i am unsure of what to use it for
[7:35] <nerxgas> yah
[7:35] <nerxgas> have you tried xbmc?
[7:36] <cerjam> let me reprhase that, i already have a 256 and ive wrote a custom frontend deal for omxplayer
[7:36] <cerjam> i just dont know what to use the 512 for
[7:38] <nerxgas> oh
[7:39] <ParkerR_> piney0, Huzzah up and running WebIOPi
[7:39] <ParkerR_> Now if only I had a use for this XD
[7:40] <ParkerR_> Never messed with GPIO.
[7:42] <cerjam> neither have i
[7:42] <cerjam> but i wnat to use it for nifty things
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[7:46] <piney0> i'm using 1wire temperature sensors on one of the GPIO pins, and the uart port
[7:48] <ParkerR_> Watching the evolution of dance again. I feel so old.
[7:49] <piney0> I have to figure out how to make dropbear not do hostname lookups before allowing me to ssh in cause it keeps timing out and taking minutes to log in
[7:51] <ParkerR_> openssh dude :)
[7:52] <piney0> memory hog lol
[7:52] <ParkerR_> Seems to be fine for me
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[7:55] <ParkerR_> So much hardware to tinker with http://i1.minus.com/iycAolRB7rgFm.jpg
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[7:56] <ParkerR_> The bottom middle is a little rf remote thing that outputs ~2.8v to a buttons repective line
[7:56] <ParkerR_> *button's
[7:57] <piney0> cool
[8:00] <piney0> http://pi.flsnj.com/images/ big pictures, slow connection. but that's my pi
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[8:01] <ParkerR_> piney0, Is the Pi serving the images?
[8:01] <piney0> yes
[8:01] <ParkerR_> Neat
[8:02] <ParkerR_> I take it lighttpd?
[8:03] <piney0> nginx
[8:03] <piney0> i'm an nginx fan :)
[8:03] <ParkerR_> :)
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[8:09] <piney0> that xport is hooked up to the raspberry pi's uart port. it acts as an out of band serial console. i log in to the xport on telnet and get a terminal on the pi.
[8:10] <ParkerR_> piney0, Heh I meant to type that message in here
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[8:10] <piney0> I have crashed software on the pi and made the ssh session unresponsive, but the uart console works, and i can fix it.
[8:10] <piney0> that's just a camera phone
[8:10] <ParkerR_> :O
[8:10] <ParkerR_> Umm
[8:11] <ParkerR_> I want that phone then
[8:11] <ParkerR_> :D
[8:11] <piney0> samsung galaxy nexus
[8:11] <ParkerR_> Ahh
[8:12] <piney0> i exiftool'd the metadata cause it had GPS in it, or else it would of shown that
[8:12] <ParkerR_> I take my exif out too. And that was on my regular camera
[8:12] <ParkerR_> Sample of the camera I loved http://i2.minus.com/ilXfVwlWvV63e.JPG
[8:13] <ParkerR_> Who knew moths like root beer XD
[8:13] <piney0> thats cool
[8:14] <piney0> this page will take a while to render, but it's the temperature data from one of the temperature sensors on the breadboard. still working on it
[8:14] <piney0> http://pi.flsnj.com/temp/index3.html
[8:16] <ParkerR_> Ooh
[8:16] <ParkerR_> Nice
[8:17] <piney0> the first long stretch with out data was when i was without power from hurricane sandy, the others were cause i was too lazy to re start it
[8:17] <piney0> thanks
[8:19] <ParkerR_> piney0, Ahh so you got caught in that
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[8:20] <piney0> 6.5 days without power, no damage. (a tree almost fell on a vehicle, but the other trees caught it)
[8:20] <ParkerR_> piney0, tree trust fall XD
[8:21] <piney0> lol
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[8:22] <monkeymon_> hi
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[9:52] <mrmoney2012> continued filesystem corruption on my 512 meg pi with arch and latest kernels - tried swapping out SD cards, checking power over and over but no luck - now trying raspbian. Could it be a faulty board ?
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[10:00] <hrebicek_wfh> let see how preforms with raspbian. I had 2 SD card corruptions in a few months, thre first ended in re-imaging the second in fsck.
[10:02] <mrmoney2012> is reimaging a card with dd enough to fix errors - it completely wipes and and resets the card right ? my command is sudo dd bs=1m if=./Downloads/2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/rdisk1
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[10:03] <OutOfLine> mrmoney2012: yes
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[10:04] <OutOfLine> as long as the card itself is ok and working with the pi
[10:04] <mrmoney2012> ok, thanks.
[10:04] <OutOfLine> but wait...
[10:05] <OutOfLine> is that device right?
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[10:05] <mrmoney2012> hmmm, think so
[10:05] <pigeta1> hey guys
[10:05] <mrmoney2012> if = input file right ?
[10:05] <mrmoney2012> of = output
[10:05] <mrmoney2012> I'm on a mac in case it matters
[10:05] <mrmoney2012> i think sdisk1 and rdisk1 are interchangeable ?
[10:05] <OutOfLine> yes, but the image is not dumped to a partition but a device
[10:06] <pigeta1> someone here use lirc ?
[10:06] <OutOfLine> ah, mac... dont't know about mac
[10:06] <mrmoney2012> i think that the device? rdisk1 - would be something like rdisk1p2 to specify a partition
[10:06] <OutOfLine> did it work before?
[10:06] <mrmoney2012> i think
[10:07] <mrmoney2012> yeah - to a point??? working boot and use for ten hours or so then inode errors start to appear
[10:07] <mrmoney2012> but yes - imaging worked - am going for raspbian now
[10:08] <mrmoney2012> it's finished - quick ? maybe too quick ? 1939865600 bytes transferred in 400.166702 secs (4847644 bytes/sec)
[10:08] <OutOfLine> ok, but for your question: yes it whipes files, filesystems, partitions and partitiontables.
[10:08] <mrmoney2012> thanks
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[10:20] <ParkerR_> :D Finally made a case for my Pi. Took a dremel to an Altoids tin and started cutting. http://i.minus.com/iwdLBOoJZ5aRK.jpg
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[10:20] <ParkerR_> http://i.minus.com/ibppJqzU84WnBI.jpg
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[10:20] <ParkerR_> Sorry for the crappy quality
[10:20] <ParkerR_> Picture and build :P
[10:21] <ParkerR_> http://i.minus.com/ibz5bNe82udkbB.jpg
[10:21] <ParkerR_> http://i.minus.com/ib269ht1ATzwlJ.jpg
[10:21] <ParkerR_> http://i6.minus.com/iVjSNWRHLAX3t.jpg
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[10:22] <ParkerR_> http://i.minus.com/i0GJTYLRFucTS.jpg
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[10:23] <booyaa> ParkerR_: you should use some sugru to clean up the edges
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[10:23] <booyaa> nice mod though
[10:23] <ParkerR_> Yeah thats what the electrical tape was trying to do
[10:24] <booyaa> one of things i love about the pi is so small you can make a case out of nearly everything
[10:24] <booyaa> brb
[10:24] <BurtyB> might have made things a little easier if the edges were straight and it didn't have something on every edge tho :/
[10:25] <ParkerR_> Yeah
[10:25] <Tabaliah> I made mine on a laser cutter
[10:25] <ParkerR_> I sanded a very little bit off of some of the edges
[10:25] <ParkerR_> Not much space
[10:25] <booyaa> Tabaliah: did you go for a box style or layered like a pibow?
[10:25] <Tabaliah> box style, I needed something fast.
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[10:26] <Tabaliah> everything on my desk is aluminum - didn't want to short out the pi
[10:26] <booyaa> Tabaliah: was it your own design or something from thingiverse?
[10:26] <Tabaliah> kind of a combination
[10:26] <ParkerR_> I removed the composite jack because I seriously will probably never use it
[10:27] <Tabaliah> I have ten pi's - so I needed something kind of in a hurry.
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[10:27] <booyaa> Tabaliah: ahahha awesome
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[10:29] <ParkerR_> I know my case needs improving but meh it works and I made it :D
[10:31] <Tabaliah> I want to make a vesa mount, six of the boards I have are to make smart wireless monitors.
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[10:32] <mrmoney2012> on new raspbian install post setup do i do -- sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get update # to update the system ?
[10:32] <ParkerR_> Other way around
[10:32] <eix> is it possible to easily compile modules on current raspbian?
[10:32] <ParkerR_> update upgrade
[10:32] <pigeta1> y update upgrade
[10:32] <eix> I mean, by using linux-headers
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[10:32] <mrmoney2012> thank you - more of an arch man recently - more used to pacman
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[10:35] <mrmoney2012> and that will update kernel as well ?
[10:35] <mrmoney2012> firmware i mean
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[10:37] <ParkerR_> mrmoney2012, No
[10:37] <mrmoney2012> ok??? so what's the method for that...
[10:37] <ParkerR_> sudo wget http://goo.gl/1BOfJ -O /usr/bin/rpi-update && sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/rpi-update
[10:38] <ParkerR_> Then sudo rpi-update
[10:38] <mrmoney2012> ok??? thanks - probably leave that until later !
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[11:20] <user82> hi. is there any tutorial or example program how to access a certain memory address in the bcm2085? I want to use the adresses from the "peripherials" document
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[11:29] <mgottschlag> user82: there is something on the GPIO wiki page
[11:29] <mgottschlag> the example mmaps the GPIO area
[11:30] <mgottschlag> http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals#GPIO_Driving_Example_.28C.29
[11:30] <user82> thanks mgottschlag i wanted to adapt it for the internal timer. And i just found an example how to use exactly this same code for the timer...hope i can figure it out from there
[11:31] <user82> http://screencloud.net/img/screenshots/acc1243a802ab4b9c73204308dd243d3.jpg
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[11:31] <user82> that was the given inforamtion...and now i got a translation for it...i think i can figure it out now
[11:32] <user82> does linux block any access in /dev/mem for the root or can the root mess up everything?
[11:33] <mgottschlag> the kernel blocks access to ram completely in the raspberrypi default kernel config
[11:33] <mgottschlag> but all MMIO areas are accesible
[11:33] <mgottschlag> (all those in the peripheral document at least)
[11:33] <ladoga> it depends on kernel
[11:35] <user82> thank you for the information. but the stuff in the doc is accessible on the default rasbpian kernel?
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[11:36] <user82> or is there a way to compile my own kernel that allowes me to do everything? (just if you happen to know the link to a tutorial or a .deb package with a prebuilt one)
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[11:37] <ladoga> mgottschlag: thanks, looks like in rasbian default kernel even reading the /dev/ram with root as not possible
[11:37] <ladoga> even stock debian kernels allow that
[11:38] <user82> ladoga, i could drive the GPIO's from c..the example mgottschlag posted the link to. but maybe they only allow the gpio and nothing else because the access to them is part of the whole raspberry pi concept?
[11:39] <user82> i imagine pwm and spi(sound and sdcard if i am correct) are used by the system and may be blocked?
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[11:41] <ladoga> # cat /dev/mem returns "cat: /dev/mem: Operation not permitted"
[11:41] <ladoga> i guess there's no reason really
[11:42] <ladoga> just something whoever compiled the raspbian kernel happened to select
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[11:56] <ladoga> CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM
[11:56] <ladoga> sets it
[11:57] <ladoga> so just leave that out if you compile your own kernel
[11:57] <ladoga> and youd be able to map any physical address, including non-RAM memory mapped IO
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[11:58] <user82> ladoga, as root it works for me
[11:58] <user82> and thanks for the hint how to compile the kernel!
[12:00] <user82> sorry ladoga i started the cat /dev/mem on my local computer...i was not in a ssh session
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[12:07] <ladoga> i was wrong too...seems like debian as default only allows reading the first 1MB
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[12:08] <ladoga> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6134984/access-permissions-of-dev-mem
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[12:11] <ladoga> zcat /proc/config.gz | grep DEVMEM
[12:11] <ladoga> CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM=y
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[12:15] <user82> then i will just try the 3.6 branch...and compile it on the rpi itself since i am not in a hurry :D
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[13:06] <user82> ladoga, do you know if the hard-float is enabled by default in the kernel?
[13:08] <ShiftPlusOne> user82, kernel doesn't use floating point
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[13:08] <user82> as far as i understood there is the option of hardware float being enabled and disabled. where is this determined? (i thought it was a kernel patch that enabled it)
[13:10] <ShiftPlusOne> That's not my understanding. That's something you determine when you compile your programs.
[13:10] <ShiftPlusOne> gcc's mfloat-abi option is used.
[13:10] <ShiftPlusOne> http://gcc.gnu.org/onlinedocs/gcc/ARM-Options.html
[13:10] <ladoga> user82: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=71&t=15221
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[13:11] <user82> ladoga, so the kernel has hardfloat enabled by default?
[13:12] <ShiftPlusOne> read the thread
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[13:14] <ShiftPlusOne> While it is possible to compile the kernel with mfloat-abi=hard, you will not benefit from that at all.
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[13:15] <user82> yes sorry i think we are talking about something different here. i can now understand what you mean: no float used in the kernel code itself. what i meant was that the kernel itself needed a patch so that floats were enabled to be used with the rpi-cpu (no matter what program)
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[13:15] <user82> a patch that the hardware for using floats inside any program is possible instead of the so called "soft float" that does not use the hardware-fpu
[13:15] <ShiftPlusOne> That doesn't sound right. Perhaps you mean that there is something you need to make sure is enabled in kernel config
[13:16] <user82> yes that is what i meant
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[13:16] <user82> i will look for it in the kernel config..i just did not find anything on the internet
[13:17] <ShiftPlusOne> Are you compiling your own kernel? You don't need to do that just to use hardfloat. If you're running the raspbian kernel, you're fine.
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[13:17] <user82> http://elinux.org/RPi_Distributions#What_is_armhf
[13:17] <ShiftPlusOne> Or the arch kernel for that matter
[13:17] <user82> ShiftPlusOne i wanted to compile it because i want to mess in /dev/mem and the access is limited by default
[13:18] <ShiftPlusOne> ah ok, hang on
[13:18] <ShiftPlusOne> use the provided config then make manual adjustments
[13:18] <ShiftPlusOne> let me find the name of the config
[13:19] <user82> thank you :)
[13:19] <ShiftPlusOne> if you run 'make ARCH=arm bcmrpi_defconfig' that will give you a good base config
[13:20] <ladoga> can't you get the current config from /proc/config.gz
[13:20] <ShiftPlusOne> http://elinux.org/Rpi_kernel_compilation
[13:20] <user82> yes that is where i started..cloning the git right now
[13:20] <user82> and ladoga that is also true
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[13:22] <user82> thanks for the help...i will try to get it running
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[13:22] <luc4> Hi! Anyone who used the egl_render openmax component?
[13:22] <user82> "Alternatively, the default configuration is available in the downloaded kernel source in arch/arm/configs/bcmrpi_defconfig. Just copy this to .config in the build directory. "
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[13:24] <ShiftPlusOne> Yet another option is extracting from a non-running kernel using the extract-ikconfig tool in the scripts folder of the kernel source.
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[13:26] <user82> i found what i meant: wikipedia: "ARM Floating Point architecture (VFP) provides hardware support for floating point operations" config: "# Floating point emulation ; CONFIG_VFP=y"
[13:26] <user82> that seems to be the so called "hard float" i read about..
[13:27] <ladoga> it's enabled by default
[13:27] <ladoga> zcat /proc/config.gz | grep CONFIG_VFP
[13:27] <ladoga> CONFIG_VFP=y
[13:27] <user82> yes..also for me. and i disabled the strict mem
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[13:28] <ladoga> user82: i should do that someday too :)
[13:28] <user82> i hope i do not mess up too much hardware....
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[13:30] <user82> will compile the kernel on the raspberry itself. seems like the easiest way plus i need to leave for some hours anyway when it's started
[13:31] <ladoga> user82: are you changing something else than disable CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM?
[13:31] <user82> no not yet...maybe later
[13:32] <user82> maybe i will have a look if "make config" works which gives me fancy explainations for all options
[13:32] <user82> but i think no
[13:32] <ladoga> user82: you can run make menuconfig
[13:32] <user82> that whas the command..thanks
[13:32] <ladoga> it picks up your default .config
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[13:33] <user82> some time ago i made a kernel for my deskop...
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[13:35] <ladoga> and thats only thing you need to do for actual compile if you compile on raspi itself
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[13:36] <axion> except i would make sure you have a decently sized swap activated or you may never finish
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[13:36] * ShiftPlusOne doesn't get why people compile things that massive on the pi given that crosscompiling the kernl requires just 2 extra parameters.
[13:37] <mgottschlag> +1
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[13:37] <ShiftPlusOne> and takes a few minutes rather than the whole day =/
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[13:37] <ladoga> if one is not in hurry
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[13:38] <axion> rpi could be a person's first pc being so inexpensive
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[13:38] <user82> yeah axion ture
[13:38] <ShiftPlusOne> pretty sure that's not the case here, heh
[13:38] <axion> and it is my most powerful pc these days
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[13:56] <ladoga> user82: http://science.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=1599004&cid=31661924
[13:56] <ladoga> :)
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[14:06] <ShiftPlusOne> user82, thanks for bringing up the VFP thing. I have just compiled that into a kernel for qemu and now raspbian works, whereas it didn't before.
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[14:08] <user82> ShiftPlusOne, cool!
[14:08] <user82> and i will cross compile now...it is really simple
[14:08] <user82> got ubuntu anyway as os
[14:09] <ShiftPlusOne> yup
[14:10] <user82> basically the same thing as the c64 my dad still owns...messing around a little in lowlevel memory adresses. just a little more power and a new interface to the tv ^^
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[14:11] <user82> btw git already ate up ram+swap at the step of "resolving deltas"
[14:11] <ShiftPlusOne> sure, just a little
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[14:22] <user82> yet there it is. placed unter Kernel Hacking in the menuconfig
[14:22] <user82> CONFIG_STRICT_DEVMEM: ???
[14:22] <user82> ??? ???
[14:22] <user82> ??? If this option is disabled, you allow userspace (root) access to all ???
[14:22] <user82> ??? of memory, including kernel and userspace memory.
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[14:23] <mgottschlag> user82: you do not need that though if you just want to access hardware registers
[14:24] <axion> you can also enable nvram support to write to nvram :)
[14:25] <mgottschlag> what nvram?
[14:25] <axion> non-volatile ram
[14:25] <mgottschlag> does the pi have anything like that?
[14:26] <mgottschlag> s/what/which/g :)
[14:27] <axion> prob not. just meant kernel support in general.
[14:27] <axion> good place to store small important data though
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[14:29] <styx_> Hi guys! Anyone using a rapi to setup a wireless hotspot?
[14:30] <styx_> I'll wonder which dongle i should buy
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[14:35] <user82> looks like i need the special compiler for that..
[14:35] <luc4> Hi! Is the openmax implementation of raspberry open source?
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[14:52] <linuxstb> luc4: No. There's a small wrapper lib which is open-source, but the actual code that runs on the GPU is closed.
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[14:58] <johang> is this the channel for the dessert or the computer?
[15:00] <scummos> the computer
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[15:01] <artag> but if you have a dessert, we're hungry
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[15:03] <user82> would anyone be so kind and tell me how i can apply this to the current tools i have? http://www.unixrus.eu/?p=987 to http://screencloud.net/v/vzej
[15:08] <luc4> linuxstb: oh... I'm experiencing a crash when working with OpenMAX. I wanted to try to debug that function to see if I could track down the cause (in my code I suppose).
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[15:09] <luc4> linuxstb: is the wrapper you're talking about the openmax il api?
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[15:25] <luc4> linuxstb: it seems something can be found in the git thanks :-)
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[15:34] <obiwahn> what speed should be possible when accessing an external disk via smaba?
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[15:52] <nNa> [it
[15:52] <nNa> oops, wrong chat
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[15:56] <eix> ok, just solved that problem with the wifi dongle
[15:58] <eix> the RTL8191S will set its MAC address to FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF and refuse to collaborate because of an underpower issue. now I am running the raspberry on a PSU and the hub on a different one
[15:59] <eix> I think it's possible to modify the PSU wire to feed directly the raspberry, will that work?
[15:59] <eix> I mean without using a USB hub port for power feeding
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[16:01] <eix> how can I add relevant information to http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Problem_USB_Wi-Fi_Adapters ?
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[16:49] <user82> it works..it sets the internal timer to 1mhz and uses it for a delay_Us function
[16:50] <user82> and mgottschlag it works with stock kernel
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[16:57] <mgottschlag> user82: as I said, access to *RAM* is limited
[16:57] <mgottschlag> access to hardware registers is not
[16:58] <user82> uhm is "printf" not working with ssh? i think it did work before
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[16:59] <user82> now it does work..strange
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[17:32] <obiwahn> why does everybody need voice?
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[17:32] <obiwahn> it spams the channel too much as there is no ongoing coversaion you will even loos questions to the bot spamming voice
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[17:39] <Vlad> obiwahn: block channel mode changes if it bothers you that much
[17:39] <_Trullo> just installed a image and now it says out of diskspace in /tmp?
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[17:42] <scummos> _Trullo: well, is it? :)
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[17:42] <_Trullo> seems so.. 100%
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[17:49] <scummos> _Trullo: apt-get install ncdu; ncdu /
[17:49] <scummos> and look what takes it all
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[18:18] <opieng> whats the biggest cd card you have needed on the pi?
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[18:18] <opieng> *sd card
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[18:22] <Patagonicus> I haven't gotten around to buying new SD cards so I'm currently working with a 4GB and a 8GB one. My Gentoo is less then a Gig in size, portage is mounted over NFS (would add ~700MB + distfiles) and the Pi with the 4GB card has an USB hdd for non-system data. So, no problems there.
[18:22] <Patagonicus> I'll probably get 16GB cards, they aren't that expensive.
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[18:25] <opieng> Yes seems there are only a few pounds in it, didnt know how important it was to go for a class 10 over a class 4?
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[18:26] <Consty> Anyone had any luck compiling dosemu on the pi?
[18:28] <Consty> I was able to get Synchronet BBS compiled, but I'd like to have dosemu workin to put up some old door games.
[18:30] <scummos> many emulators tend to have x86 assembler parts... which might make it difficult to compile them on the rpi
[18:30] <scummos> don't know about dosemu tough
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[18:36] <Consty> scummos, hmm, I've heard that dosbox can be used instead, but that it doesn't support concurrent instances accessing the same files very well at all (causes file corruptions)
[18:36] <Consty> not sure if that's still an issue
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[18:38] <scummos> okay, no ideas about dos emulators :)
[18:38] <scummos> I just use wine from time to time
[18:39] <akk> Any python users? I'm trying to get python-pip on occidentalis v0.2 (based on Raspbian wheezy)
[18:39] <akk> but it wants to pull in python-2.6 when the default python is python-2.7.
[18:40] <Consty> scummos, the issue with the newest version of dosemu is that it wants a much newer version of binutils
[18:41] <Consty> scummos, I'm trying the previous version to see if it works
[18:41] <Cykey> Are there 5v GPIO pins?
[18:41] <scummos> Cykey: no
[18:41] <scummos> all logic levels are 3.3V
[18:42] <scummos> Consty: okay
[18:42] <Consty> scummos, yeah, requires binutils 2.9 instead of the 2.2 that's included with raspbian
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[18:48] <scummos> Consty: yes, building trunk software against debian-based systems is something one does avoid to do
[18:48] <scummos> I do, at least ;)
[18:49] <scummos> check for the system's release date and pick a version of the program close to that data
[18:49] <scummos> *date
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[19:05] <Consty> scummos, I don't think it's that. It has something to do with x86 compiling on arm, because even the latest version of Ubuntu lacks the appropriate version of binutils
[19:05] <Consty> there's no way that's right
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[19:10] <scummos> Consty: for me, ubuntu is not really known for up-to-date software
[19:10] <scummos> I have 2.23.1-1 here
[19:12] <Consty> I guess
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[19:28] <Gr33n3gg> http://www.engadget.com/2012/12/02/hardkernal-reveals-pair-of-quad-core-exynos-odroid-u-boards/
[19:29] <Cykey> Is this qualified as a good power supply? https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8269 (For rPI)
[19:29] <Gr33n3gg> Cykey: yes
[19:29] <Cykey> oh wait nvm, it's not even usb
[19:30] <Gr33n3gg> you can use any USB wall plug as long as its at least 700mA
[19:30] <jelly1> hmm anyone having mjpgstreamer failing for no reason?
[19:30] <jelly1> Init v4L2 failed !! exit fatal
[19:30] <jelly1> that reason ;)
[19:31] <Cykey> Gr33n3gg: Would an Apple USB charger work? :P
[19:31] <Gr33n3gg> Cykey: yes, that puts out 1 amp
[19:32] <Gr33n3gg> check on the button of the plug to be sure
[19:32] <Cykey> Mhm.
[19:32] <Cykey> Thanks!
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[19:34] <ParkerR_> Woo, ordered an Atrix lapdock
[19:34] <Consty> I'm using an amazon adapter
[19:34] <Consty> seems to work well
[19:34] <jelly1> hmm no one using mjpgstreamer?
[19:34] <Consty> for kindle
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[19:39] <jelly1> ugh randomly reinstering the usb webcam and it works..
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[20:16] <monkeymon> hi
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[20:25] <x_axisofevil> hi
[20:25] <AndrevS> hi
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[20:25] <gazzwi86> hey all
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[20:26] <x_axisofevil> is there a way to submit a user/pass via the command line for internet that comes through a wifi hotspot?
[20:26] <x_axisofevil> like what you would see at starbucks or something... i have a headless pi and would like for it to go online, but a hotspot is my only option
[20:26] <gazzwi86> I'm using the MCP23017 with the adafruit black raspberry distro, and its sample code. I'm trying to use 5 pins on the chip as inputs but only getting one fire back at me
[20:28] <gazzwi86> hers the code, my bit is at the bottom: https://gist.github.com/4190561
[20:28] <Gr33n3gg> x_axisofevil: you could use something like wget http://username:password@starbucks.com
[20:29] <Gr33n3gg> unless it is a HTML form, you'll have to do some magic
[20:30] <x_axisofevil> its not actually starbucks lol... i'm on a camp in afghanistan
[20:30] <Gr33n3gg> x_axisofevil: check that out as well http://stackoverflow.com/questions/4382788/post-forms-and-upload-files-using-linux-command-line
[20:31] <pksato> x_axisofevil: curl can do it. need to create form send data manualy.
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[20:34] <x_axisofevil> thanks
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[20:39] <x_axisofevil> thanks, trying it now
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[20:55] <Datalink> whee x.x school
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[21:17] <_JusSx_> hi i run transmission bit torrent client on raspberry for 48hours then sdhc card was broken.
[21:17] <Gr33n3gg> _JusSx_: broken?
[21:18] <_JusSx_> i can't anymore mount root fs
[21:18] <_JusSx_> i got an error in dmesg
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[21:19] <_JusSx_> too much disk activity could break sdhc card?
[21:19] <Patagonicus> What error do you get?
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[21:23] <_JusSx_> Buffer I/O error on sdc3 device
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[21:23] <_JusSx_> Buffer I/O error on sdc3 device logical block x
[21:23] <_JusSx_> Buffer I/O error on sdc3 device logical block y
[21:23] <_JusSx_> and so on
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[21:32] <SpeedEvil> _JusSx_: yes
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[21:33] <_JusSx_> I'm going to mount rootfs from usb hhd
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[21:33] <SpeedEvil> NP: meatloaf - too much writing will kill sdhc.
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[21:34] <viric> Hello.
[21:34] <SpeedEvil> harro
[21:34] <viric> Does the 3.6.7-based kernel (rpi-3.6.y) have disadvantadges over the 3.2.27?
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[21:35] <viric> I'm having problems with a 3.2.27, and I'm testing the 3.6.7 now, but I don't see the /dev/vchiq
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[21:45] <antoks> I want to use a cross compiling toolchain for my raspberry, and found this http://www.bootc.net/archives/2012/05/26/how-to-build-a-cross-compiler-for-your-raspberry-pi/
[21:45] <antoks> tutorial thingy
[21:45] <antoks> Is there some default/preferred toolchain already?
[21:46] <antoks> something like an endorsed toolchain by the rasppi guys or something?
[21:46] <viric> any arm toolchain will do
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[21:47] <antoks> oh, ok, then I guess the one which the tutorial will produce is ok =)
[21:47] <viric> well, I'm no expert. But the arm gcc can build for any arm
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[21:48] <viric> if you have to rely on shared libraries already deployed in the device... it's trickier.
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[21:51] <antoks> I might want to that eventually yeah
[21:51] <ShiftPlusOne> antoks, if you want, there's the 'official' toolchain on the raspberry pi github, under tools.
[21:51] <ShiftPlusOne> also, your distro is sure to have a ready one you can install too
[21:51] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't see the point of building your own, unless you have some specific requirements.
[21:52] <antoks> I dont have much of requirements yet
[21:52] <ShiftPlusOne> what distro are you running (on your pc)?
[21:52] <antoks> but the one that came up with a search for raspberry cross-compile toolchain was the tutorial I linked
[21:52] <antoks> I'm preparing an virtual machine with arch-linux
[21:52] <antoks> that I want to use for my raspberry coding
[21:52] <ShiftPlusOne> Ah, I thought it was a crosstool-ng tutorial
[21:53] <antoks> it is
[21:53] <antoks> do you know where I might find info about the one in the raspberry pi github repo?
[21:53] <ShiftPlusOne> https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools
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[21:55] <antoks> I mean information, like how to install it and use it =)
[21:55] <antoks> Im (kind of) new to installing toolchains
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[21:57] <ShiftPlusOne> Depends on how you want to use it. Compiling small programs directly, or building bigger ones with lots of dependencies using autotools?
[21:57] <antoks> first thing first, then later bigger ones with autotool I guess
[21:58] <antoks> i found a similar question asked on stack-overflow, and the highest ranked answer suggested the crosstool-ng approach =X
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[21:59] <ShiftPlusOne> I would recommend scratchbox2 then. It takes a while to set up, but worth it since it's like compiling directly on a pi, but fast. http://pastebin.com/4Jp1WPTb
[21:59] <ShiftPlusOne> Those instructions are a bit dated, but still work afaik.
[21:59] <antoks> but if that is going to give me headaches with the already existing framework (ABI, version incompatibilitys etc)
[22:00] <ShiftPlusOne> I wouldn't use the mentor toolchain as it says there, just use the official raspbian one.
[22:01] <antoks> hmm
[22:01] <antoks> now I'm unsure of what I have installed on my pi, if anything =X
[22:01] <antoks> I think I just dd'ed the distro they where endorsing when I got it
[22:01] <ShiftPlusOne> You're overthinking it.
[22:02] <antoks> I am?
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[22:03] <antoks> isn't there a chance for version-clashing and whatnot if I dont use the same versions of stuff?
[22:03] <ShiftPlusOne> yes, the major toolchains will all be compatible with each other. I think the major difference is some are hard-float by default, some aren't.
[22:03] <antoks> oh, ok
[22:04] <antoks> they're all mostly based around gcc, so I guess that's the most important one
[22:04] <ShiftPlusOne> Yes, they all are.
[22:04] <antoks> do you think I could get away with using the crosstool-ng approach? because it seems like that one is compatible with my arch-install
[22:05] <ShiftPlusOne> They are all compatible with your arch-install.
[22:05] <antoks> while the scratchbox2 approach you linked seems to be tailored for debian/ubuntu
[22:05] <ShiftPlusOne> crosstool-ng just generates a toolchain
[22:05] <ShiftPlusOne> scratchbox2 gives you a nice environment to compile things in (using whatever toolchain you provide)
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[22:07] <ShiftPlusOne> instead of setting up 100 env variables, tweaking configure options, messing around with packages which aren't cross-compile friendly and losing sanity, it does everything for you.
[22:07] <antoks> so I need a toolchain in addition to install scratchbox2? (pardon, I haven't heard about scratchbox before)
[22:07] <ShiftPlusOne> yes
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[22:08] <ShiftPlusOne> skim through the instructions I gave you, it will give you a good hint of what's involved in setting it up
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[22:09] <ShiftPlusOne> but once it's done you can compile using 'sb2 ./configure; sb2 make;' (like you normally would, just with sb2 in front)
[22:09] <antoks> that sounds real nice
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[22:10] <ShiftPlusOne> It is.... and then you can run whatever you build, even if it's X11.
[22:11] <ShiftPlusOne> (as in an gui program... not xorg itself)
[22:11] <antoks> thanks!
[22:11] <antoks> Ill read up on it a bit, and see if I can wrap my head around it
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[22:12] <ShiftPlusOne> Yeah, it takes a while. =)
[22:12] <antoks> one thing though, are there really that many env variables to keep track of ?
[22:12] <CelticTurnip> hi all
[22:12] <ShiftPlusOne> If you do it manually, it can. Depends on what you're compiling.
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[22:12] <antoks> isn't it just making sure you use the right compiler, and that the compiler uses the right toolpath for libraries etc?
[22:13] <ShiftPlusOne> antoks, in theory
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[22:25] <OutOfLine> CelticTurnip: hi
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[23:28] <jden> I'm having trouble getting my edimax EW-7811Un usb wifi adapter setup under archlinux, has anyone experienced this?
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[23:32] <chithead> in case you want assistance, giving a more precise problem description may be good
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[23:36] <mattwj2002> hi all
[23:36] <mattwj2002> is there a way of playing flash videos on a pi?
[23:37] <mattwj2002> as in embedded in a webpage?
[23:37] <rikkib> I thing there is a browser plugin
[23:37] <rikkib> think
[23:37] <mattwj2002> rikkib: any idea what is called?
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[23:37] <chithead> it is possible to build gnash and lightspark, but the pi is probably too slow for that. so you would have to find some other method than flash (html5?)
[23:37] <rikkib> abode flash player
[23:38] <chithead> too slow for playback*
[23:38] <mattwj2002> chithead: I want to watch youtube videos
[23:38] <mattwj2002> :(
[23:38] <chithead> youtube does not need flash
[23:38] <chithead> just go to youtube.com/html5 and enable it
[23:38] <mattwj2002> neato
[23:39] <rikkib> youtube works in iceweasel and chrome
[23:39] <jden> chithead: I'm running 3.2.27-16-ARCH+ with latest pacman -Syu, installed the drivers. the device is recognized in lsusb, but wlan0 does not show up in ifconfig
[23:39] <rikkib> on my Linux machine
[23:39] <chithead> jden: "ifconfig -a"? also firmware may be needed
[23:39] <rikkib> I see no reason it will not work on the RPi
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[23:44] <jden> chithead: d'oh! it's there with -a. also, realised I needed the wireless_tools package
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[23:47] <mattwj2002> chrome works on the pi?
[23:48] <Grievre> chithead: ifconfig: command not found :x
[23:49] <rikkib> sudo ifconfig
[23:50] <mattwj2002> man the type of apps available for the pi really sucks
[23:50] <Grievre> mattwj2002: what do you mean?
[23:51] <mattwj2002> well I want a browser
[23:51] <mattwj2002> firefox and chrome both seem available
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[23:51] <mattwj2002> *unavalable
[23:51] <mattwj2002> whatever
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[23:53] <Grievre> mattwj2002: really? firefox doesn't compile for the pi? that's kind of surprising
[23:53] <rikkib> apt-get install chromium
[23:53] <mattwj2002> oh chromium
[23:53] <rikkib> apt-get install iceweasel
[23:54] <mattwj2002> I was doing an apt-get install chrome
[23:54] <mattwj2002> :)
[23:54] <mattwj2002> iceweasel?
[23:54] <rikkib> mozilla
[23:54] <rikkib> same same as firefox
[23:55] <mattwj2002> what the heck?
[23:55] <rikkib> icedove for mail
[23:55] <mattwj2002> why not just call it firefox?
[23:55] <frikinz> cause there is a trademark on the name
[23:55] <Grievre> mattwj2002: although the code is open source, the name "firefox" is trademarked
[23:55] <Grievre> you're not allowed to call your modified version of firefox "firefox"
[23:55] <PhotoJim> mattwj2002: "Firefox" has some restrictive terms to it, and Debian avoids certain restrictions out of principle.
[23:55] <mattwj2002> oh okay
[23:56] <PhotoJim> but it's still Firefox underneath, really.
[23:56] <rikkib> I use all three on this machine
[23:56] <rikkib> chrome catches all the html5
[23:56] <rikkib> where iceweasel may not work
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[23:57] <Grievre> mattwj2002: also complaining about the lack of a full-featured modern web browser on a $35 SoC board is kind of looking a gift horse in the mouth isn't it? :P
[23:57] <rikkib> wp sites give trouble in icewaesel
[23:57] <mattwj2002> true Grievre
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