#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2012-12-03

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[0:02] <mattwj2002> yeah I am having bad luck playing youtube videos
[0:02] <mattwj2002> :(
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[0:05] <btcbuy314> im on my raspberry pi and have headphones plugged into it listening to a song using mpg123, how do i turn down the volume for it? i have no gui btw
[0:05] <btcbuy314> im using arch linux
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[0:07] <pksato> mpg123 have a some controls, use -C , but no volume control.
[0:07] <Grievre> btcbuy314: alsamixer?
[0:07] <btcbuy314> whats that?
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[0:08] <btcbuy314> well i dont care what it is, how would i turn down volume with it
[0:08] <pksato> switch to another console (alt+f2) . login and run alsamixer
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[0:08] <ParkerR_> CTrl alt f2
[0:10] <rikkib> Mon Dec 3 12:08:22 NZDT 2012 5 hours of guitar practice today... 10 days to learn the songs of a band I have not played with before...
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[0:11] <pksato> Project, control mpg123 from GPIO.
[0:11] <frikinz> amixer set Master 50 #should set it to 50
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[0:14] <btcbuy314> ParkerR_: [da@alarmpi] ~]: alsamixer
[0:14] <btcbuy314> -bash: alsamixer: command not found
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[0:20] <artag> apt-get instal alsa-utils ?
[0:21] <pksato> raspbian have alsa-utils installed.
[0:22] <btcbuy314> i got alsa-utils and its still not working
[0:22] <btcbuy314> how do i get the actual alsamixer i dont really need or want alsamixer
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[0:24] <artag> still no alsamixer, or it's there but doesn't work ?
[0:24] <ParkerR_> btcbuy314, sudo apt-get install alsa
[0:24] <ParkerR_> sudo modprobe snd_bcm2835
[0:24] <ParkerR_> sudo alsactl init
[0:26] <ParkerR_> And to prevent having to run modprobe after booting add snd_bcm2835 to the /etc/module file
[0:26] <ParkerR_> * /etc/modules
[0:26] <MistahDarcy> You can use movgrab to watch Youtube, Vimeo, and a few other video websites without flash
[0:27] <ParkerR_> Heh I like yt for youtube
[0:27] <ParkerR_> Has an option top use omxplayer
[0:27] <ParkerR_> *to use
[0:28] <MistahDarcy> Yeah, movgrab can use mplayer
[0:28] <ParkerR_> mplayer never seemed to run very great for me
[0:28] <ParkerR_> omxplayer seems much better
[0:28] <MistahDarcy> Will have to try
[0:29] <ParkerR_> https://github.com/rjw57/yt
[0:29] <MistahDarcy> thanks
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[0:31] <frikinz> Which mplayer do you guys grab? Last time I checked there was none in raspbian repo. I had though in official debian.
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[0:33] <btcbuy314> ok i got it working
[0:33] <btcbuy314> how do i switch from the default soundcard to a usb sound card?
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[0:37] <ParkerR_> btcbuy314, You have to do something in ~/.asoundrc
[0:37] <ParkerR_> Not as simple as just a switch
[0:38] <unreal-dude> anyone in here know what that foamy electrical contact stuff is used on some mobile devices? want to use some on a pi project which has removable panels with electrical parts on it
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[0:41] <artag> RF gasket material ?
[0:41] <unreal-dude> is that what its used for?
[0:41] <artag> possibly. not sure exactly what you mean
[0:41] <unreal-dude> didnt think it was used in the rf portion, but i dont really remember where i saw it and how it was used
[0:42] <ParkerR_> I think he means the little black piece of whatever that comes down and makes a connection between two traces
[0:42] <unreal-dude> its like a spongey material but is electrically conductive and usually stuck on one side
[0:42] <ParkerR_> ^^
[0:42] <ParkerR_> Yeah
[0:42] <ParkerR_> Hmm
[0:42] <unreal-dude> what i saw was silver
[0:42] <artag> ah, carbon-loaded rubber
[0:43] <artag> if it's like a silver knitted tube (with a rubber insert to make it springy) then it's RF, but I wouldn't expect it on a phone
[0:43] <artag> it's more like transmitter casings
[0:43] <ParkerR_> Actually a phone is where I have seen the silver the most
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[0:44] <artag> http://www.kemtron.co.uk/products/emc.html
[0:44] <artag> that sort of thing ?
[0:45] <unreal-dude> um, not sure doesnt look the same anayways
[0:45] <unreal-dude> close
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[0:45] <Teligard> Hi all
[0:46] <artag> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=rf+gasket+strip&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=BYK&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=39314241&biw=1220&bih=937&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=Jui7UOrnG-St0QXBkYCABA
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[0:48] <Elspuddy> dose any one know how to get xhat to open links in a diffent browser ?
[0:49] <unreal-dude> well, i guess that is what it is then. so its just used for shielding then?
[0:50] <artag> yes, it fills the gap between metal surfaces so rf doesn't get in or out
[0:50] <Teligard> Here's what I'm working with: I have a pi build date 2011.12, 512MB version, 32GB Sandisk class 4, and have installed raspmc on it. I'm using an original iPhone AC adapter. For some reason, after 5-15 minutes, the screen corrupts, and I have to unplug and start over.
[0:50] <Teligard> Any ideas
[0:50] <unreal-dude> i assume its not really idea for as a current conductor, like say providing power from the cover to the phone?
[0:51] <unreal-dude> or from the pi to the panel in this case
[0:51] <artag> the metal-covered stuff is probably pretty conductive. the elastomeric not so much
[0:52] <artag> but it's intentionally not insulated. might short the power out. it's intended to be all grounded
[0:52] <unreal-dude> i'll keep looking then, thanks for making the connection between the idea and the name so i could at least find it :)
[0:52] <unreal-dude> right, this would be just a few mm squared
[0:52] <artag> you could look at extra-flexible wire, and conductive thread too
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[0:53] <unreal-dude> well, i it to not be connected at all
[0:53] <unreal-dude> currently using some 30 guage wire but its getting in the way
[0:53] <artag> oh, you don't want a link, you want a squishy conductive pad ?
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[0:53] <unreal-dude> right
[0:53] <artag> so it just links when shut ?
[0:53] <unreal-dude> exactly
[0:54] <artag> can you use gold plated springs ? or pogo pins ?
[0:54] <unreal-dude> i want it to be something that can be compressed to just a few mm think once close but not require much to keep it in place
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[0:55] <artag> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=rf+gasket+strip&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=BYK&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.&bpcl=39314241&biw=1220&bih=937&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbm=isch&source=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=Jui7UOrnG-St0QXBkYCABA#um=1&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=yZK&tbo=d&rls=org.mozilla:en-US%3Aofficial&tbm=isch&sa=1&q=pogo+pins&oq=pogo+pins&gs_l=img.3..0l4j0i24l6.457146.459376.0.459618.9.9.0.0.0.0.381.2164.0j2j6j1.9.0...0.0...1c.1.JjxsN
[0:55] <artag> pogo pins can be pretty small (sorry about the url length)
[0:56] <artag> but that knitted-looking stuff might work well
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[0:56] <artag> or the beryllium-copper fingers
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[0:57] <unreal-dude> that might yield a better connection with less requirements holding it in place
[0:57] <unreal-dude> *the beryllium copper fingers that is
[1:00] <Teligard> Here's what I'm working with: I have a pi build date 2011.12, 512MB version, 32GB Sandisk class 4, and have installed raspmc on it. I'm using an original iPhone AC adapter. For some reason, after 5-15 minutes, the screen corrupts, and I have to unplug and start over. Could someone provide some words of wisdom?
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[1:03] <unreal-dude> did you try anything other than raspbmc? are you confident with the power supply? I would check the power
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[1:12] <PHahrrgis> Anyone put heatsinks on their pi?
[1:13] <Teligard> luigy: I've tried raspmc, OpenELEC, XBian...
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[1:13] <Teligard> Same issue
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[1:25] <ShiftPlusOne> PHahrrgis, yes, some people do, but only because they haven't given it much thought.
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[1:29] <tdy> haha heat sink on rpi
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[1:31] <ParkerR_> It gets a little warm when doing youtube but not enough to make me want to put some heat sinks on it
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[1:49] <btcbuy314> is there a way to switch from default soundcard to usb sound card without editting .asoundrc because i want to be able to switch back and forth quickly
[1:49] <btcbuy314> without editting a file every time
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[2:15] <ParkerR_> btcbuy314, Did you get it working though?
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[2:19] <Gremlyn1> hello
[2:19] <ParkerR_> Hello
[2:19] <SpeedEvil> ehlo
[2:19] <Gremlyn1> just got my Pi and it is up and running using the latest hard float raspbian... trouble I am having is when doing anything on the system, such as apt-get update, the CPU spikes to 100% and the system freezes
[2:20] <Gremlyn1> could this be a power supply issue?
[2:20] <SpeedEvil> yes
[2:20] <sorbo_> what are you using for a power supply?
[2:21] <Gremlyn1> it's a 5V, 1A palm micro USB charger, looks just like the 2A HP chargers I saw people talking about
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[2:23] <Opinie> hey, does anyone know, how to create searchable pdfs?
[2:23] <Opinie> I've been struggling for hours
[2:23] <Gremlyn1> searchable, as in the text?
[2:23] <Gremlyn1> converting normal text to pdf should be all you need to do
[2:23] <Opinie> umm, I'd want to turn my dumb picture pdfs into searchable pdfs by OCR'ing
[2:24] <Opinie> like I've been running this shell script that uses cuneiform, but it's really bad
[2:24] <Opinie> it sometimes skips a whole swath of pages
[2:24] <Gremlyn1> measuring 4.78V across TP1/TP2
[2:25] <pksato> Gremlyn1: if you have a desktop computer, try use the usb port as RPi PSU.
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[2:26] <pksato> Problem is the quality of voltage (noise) output.
[2:26] <Gremlyn1> can't really see that without an o-scope though, right?
[2:26] <pksato> yes.
[2:27] <Gremlyn1> wonder if the wireless mouse might be part of the problem
[2:27] <Opinie> so um
[2:27] <Gremlyn1> 4.78 is low, though right?
[2:27] <Opinie> anyone around with any experience with OCR'ing
[2:27] <Opinie> I have a shell script etc
[2:28] <Gremlyn1> pksato, didn't think computer USB ports had enough amps to be a good power supply
[2:28] <pksato> Pi work at 3.4V to 6 or more.
[2:28] <Opinie> apparently if I could just use tesseract instead of cuneiform, I'd probably get a good result
[2:28] <Opinie> but I don't have the know how to do changes in the script, I'm afraid
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[2:29] <Gremlyn1> hmm, well the mouse transmitter says it uses 100mA, which is the max that pi can give
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[2:32] <pksato> I mod. a 15" monitor to get 5V from internal psu. Powering RPi, voltage drop from 4.97V to 4.4V, and RPi works fine.
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[2:35] <SpeedEvil> may damage monitor
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[2:36] <Opinie> anyone around who could help me with OCR'ing some pdfs
[2:37] <Opinie> I'd really appreciate it since it's school material I need OCR
[2:37] <Opinie> *uni
[2:37] <CarlFK> 2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian.img, plugged in a usb keyboard, @ and " are swapped... guessing I need to pick a keyboard layout?
[2:37] <chithead> Opinie: google docs will ocr pdfs
[2:37] <Opinie> hm
[2:37] <chithead> only 10 pages at once though
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[2:38] <Opinie> -.-
[2:38] <Opinie> well that's a backup plan
[2:38] <Opinie> I guess
[2:38] <CarlFK> Opinie: I might... is this pi related, or should we take this to #chipy (where I hang out an no one is talking...)
[2:38] <Opinie> yeah sure
[2:38] <Opinie> I'll join
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[2:41] <Gremlyn1> well, I have 5.05 coming on to the fuse with 0.8mA
[2:42] <Gremlyn1> with 5v coming out the other side
[2:42] <Gremlyn1> so the fuse is good
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[2:43] <Nahledge> Is raspbmc only a media center type thing? Can I run web browsers in it, nano, file managers, etc? Or is it strictly a port of a media center app? I'm confused
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[2:45] <Teligard> Nahledge: nano is installed, if you go in via ssh
[2:45] <Nahledge> Can it have fluxbox?
[2:45] <Teligard> as it's debian based, you have a fair amount of flexability
[2:46] <Teligard> Although I haven't tried it, I'd assume so
[2:46] <Teligard> Becasue of the manager you use, as the rpi does still have a limited amount of onboard memory, and you don't want to eat it all by way of win mgr
[2:47] <Teligard> I think the current is Xfce, isnt it
[2:48] <Teligard> I may stand corrected.
[2:48] <Teligard> raspmc doesnt' use X
[2:48] <Teligard> so I don't know.
[2:49] <Teligard> (I should have kept my fingers from the keyboard)
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[2:59] <ParkerR_> Teligard, Techically yes Raspbmc does use X. Just doesn't use a window manager
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[3:01] <Opinie> CarlFK: what was the name of that channel? my irc client crashed
[3:01] <CarlFK> #chipy
[3:01] <Gremlyn1> when looking at USB cables, is there any way to tell if they will make good charging cables?
[3:02] <pksato> Is there a minimalist OS/distro can fit on 256MB SD card? (or 16MB).
[3:03] <Gremlyn1> with UI?
[3:04] <pksato> a console shell.
[3:04] <Gremlyn1> there is one I remember called Damn Small Linux, though I don't know anything about it
[3:04] <Gremlyn1> even if it still exists
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[3:05] <ParkerR_> Gremlyn1, The cable doesn't make much of a difference. What matters is the power supply the cable is plugging into.
[3:06] <ParkerR_> Usually 5v at 1A or higher amperage is recommended.
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[3:06] <Gremlyn1> ParkerR_, yeah I know, but I thought I remember that there a some cables that charged and would short a data usb socket
[3:06] <sraue> pksato, OpenELEC is around 80MB with XBMC, if you build OpenELEC without XBMC support i think you can have a 10-20MB OS
[3:06] <ParkerR_> The Pi doesn't use the data pins on the power plug
[3:06] <Gr33n3gg> http://www.linux-arm.info/index.php/other-distributions
[3:07] <ParkerR_> As far as I know they aren't even hooked up to anything
[3:07] <Gremlyn1> right, I figured it didn't, so I was wondering if there was a specific cable I could get that would be that charging-only kind
[3:07] <ParkerR_> You can use any micro USB cable
[3:08] <ParkerR_> The micro USB port on the Pi only uses the power lines
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[3:09] <Gremlyn1> gotcha
[3:10] <Gremlyn1> I think the problem I am having is my USB peripherals
[3:10] <Gremlyn1> going to order a powered hub
[3:10] <plugwash> i'd disagree about the cable not making a difference, some USB cables apparently have a high enough resistance in the power wires to cause noticable volt drop
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[3:12] <ParkerR_> plugwash, Hmm I would think voltage dropping would be the power supply's fault
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[3:13] <plugwash> then you don't understand ohms law
[3:14] <plugwash> a cable has resistance therefore the voltage supplied to the device must be lower than the voltage at the output of the power supply
[3:14] <plugwash> how much lower depends on the current draw and the resistance of the wires (which in turn depends on the material and thickness of the wires)
[3:14] <ParkerR_> But the resistance of a cable is very low unless you go up to crazy lengths
[3:15] <ParkerR_> Considering a normal sized cable
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[3:15] <pksato> a standard usb cable uses 28awg wires.
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[3:17] <Nahledge> Teligard: My question is, how do I actuallly get things to my raspbmc? As in torrents, music, videos? Do I have to do that third party then transfer it via sub or sdcard? Or can I run these utilities to get things directly from pi.
[3:19] <plugwash> pksato, do you have a source for that claim? it seems very small to me
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[3:19] <pksato> 28awg have 212.9mili ohms per metre.
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[3:19] <ParkerR_> Nahledge, As far as I know, Raspbmc runs an SSH server by default. Transfer files via scp over the network. PLug in a USB flash drive or external hard drive. Download straight from the internet on the Pi. (transmission-cli, rtorrent)
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[3:21] <pksato> plugwash: if I remember, I know it from usb specifications datasheet.
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[3:26] * plugwash downloads the spec and takes a look
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[3:26] <cyclick> or mount network drive on the pi
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[3:31] <plugwash> according to the USB spec the power wires should be between 20 AWG and 28AWG BUT it also limits the maximum resistance of the cable as a whole
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[3:32] <plugwash> so a 28AWG power wire can only legitimately be used in a very short cable
[3:33] <plugwash> (up to just over 1m)
[3:34] <plugwash> longer cables SHOULD use thicker wires, whether they actually do is another matter...
[3:35] <cyclick> 28awg is very tiny
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[3:38] <cyclick> monoprice.com for cheap wires
[3:39] <plugwash> mmm. they specify the wire size for their cables :)
[3:40] <plugwash> wish their was an equivilent on this side of the pond..........
[3:41] <plugwash> a cable that is on the limit of USB specifications is likely to be problematic for powering the Pi, a cable that is outside USB specifications is likely to be even worse. Unfortunatley most sellers of USB cables don't mention wire sizes.
[3:44] <cyclick> do you get big duty fees?
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[3:51] <plugwash> duty doesn't kick in until pretty high order values and isn't generally too unreasonable afaict (i've personally never made a foreign order to trigger it)
[3:52] <plugwash> VAT kicks in much lower but you have to pay that on domestic purchases too (just the way of paying it is different so that is a wash)
[3:52] <plugwash> the big annoyance on moderate sized shipments from outside the EU is the fee for collecting the VAT......
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[3:55] <plugwash> add the fee for collecting the VAT to monoprices own excessive delivery charge (which ensures that the total is above the VAT threshold no matter how few items you actually order from them) and ordering from monoprice to the UK starts to look seriously expensive
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[3:59] <plugwash> monoprice charge $1.20 (~??0.75) for the cable and $30.95 (~??19.29) shipping, add to that about ??4 of VAT and about ??10 for collecting the VAT and you are talking arround ??34 total
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[4:13] <Gremlyn1> hrm, getting some errors when trying to update raspbian
[4:14] <Gremlyn1> "prior errors apply to ...." pretty much every package trying to update
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[4:21] <Gremlyn1> segfault when trying to replace dpkg
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[4:23] <ParkerR_> Gremlyn1, Why are you trying to replace dpkg?
[4:23] <Gremlyn1> I'm not, apt-get upgrade is
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[4:24] <ParkerR_> Oh its trying to upgrade it
[4:24] <Gremlyn> yeah
[4:25] <ParkerR_> Hmm
[4:25] <ParkerR_> It really shouldn't segfault there
[4:25] <Gremlyn> trying it again as straight root instead of with sudo
[4:25] <Gremlyn> hah, no kidding? :P
[4:25] <Gremlyn> tried clean, autoclean, dist-upgrade, etc
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[4:25] <Gremlyn> under root it is at least downloading the packages
[4:26] <ParkerR_> dpkg is the backend for many of the package managers (apt-get, aptitiude). I can kinda see how it might mess up if trying to upgrade it but it should know what to do and replace it correctly
[4:26] <Gremlyn> yeah, it's never been a problem when I've upgraded it on *buntu distros in the past
[4:27] <plugwash> I suspect something has got corrupted on the SD card :(
[4:27] <Gremlyn> I have had to hard reset it a few times... wouldn't be surprised
[4:27] <plugwash> SD card corruption seems to be a reccuring problem with the Pi and depending on what gets corrupted it can break practically anything :(
[4:27] <Gremlyn> maybe I'll shelve it until I can get a powered USB hub in here
[4:27] <Gremlyn> should only be a couple of days
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[5:33] <brady2600> yay. im here.
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[5:33] <brady2600> ok so ive managed to install my raspbian, got apache, sql , php , all installed.
[5:35] <brady2600> ive gotten tightvncserver installed, but i can't seem to manage to get it to autorun when it boots
[5:35] <brady2600> ive got the raspberry pi itself automatically logging in and startingx
[5:36] <applegekko> just add a cronjob to run at restart
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[5:39] <Gremlyn> what're you ging to be doing with it brady2600?
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[5:40] <brady2600> i want it to start tightvncserver
[5:40] <applegekko> just add a cronjob to run at restart
[5:40] <pksato> it is not job to cron.
[5:41] <applegekko> it is its not a job for a init script
[5:41] <pksato> I dont know tightvncserver.
[5:42] <pksato> init script or inittab is place to launch applications at boot time.
[5:42] <applegekko> system daemons, not apps
[5:42] <applegekko> tightvnc is not a system daemon
[5:42] <pksato> semantics.
[5:42] <brady2600> i was trying to do it with init.d
[5:42] <Gremlyn> tightvncserver is a daemon
[5:42] <Gremlyn> since it's a server...
[5:42] <CelticTurnip> why would you start a service as a cron job... wtf?
[5:42] * CelticTurnip ponders
[5:42] <brady2600> lol
[5:43] <Gremlyn> definitely sould be init.d
[5:43] <brady2600> well. i can say i have successfully failed at getting it to start with init.d
[5:44] <CelticTurnip> brady2600: have you seen this http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=7395 - it actually mentions tightvncserver/init.d etc
[5:44] <Gremlyn> what did you put in the file you put in init.d to start it?
[5:44] <pksato> tightvncserver need a Xserver?
[5:44] <asaru> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-write-sys-v-init-script-to-start-stop-service.html
[5:44] <pksato> or, it replace a Xserver?
[5:45] <brady2600> im wondering if perhaps the script itself has something at afult
[5:45] <brady2600> at fault
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[5:45] <brady2600> one second, looking at both of the links ive been given
[5:45] <pksato> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=7395
[5:46] <pksato> just you need
[5:46] <CelticTurnip> and posted like 5 lines ago ;)
[5:46] <brady2600> ahh i just realized i could probably test to see if my script is working by doing something like /etc/init.d/vncstart start
[5:47] <Gremlyn> very likely
[5:47] <Gremlyn> if you did it right
[5:47] <Teligard> Hi all. Where can I find the best power supply for the rpi?
[5:47] <brady2600> well. it was pretty much a copy of a pre existing script
[5:48] <Teligard> I've been using my old iphone, android, etc. ps's, and they just aren't cutting it.
[5:48] <Gremlyn> Teligard, I was wondering that myself, and I settled on going with a powered USB hub
[5:48] <Gremlyn> ordered it earlier
[5:48] <Teligard> Does it work well?
[5:48] <Teligard> oh, not received yet
[5:48] <brady2600> but having called it , i can see it returns syntax error
[5:48] <Gremlyn> will let you know on Tuesday when it gets here ;)
[5:48] <Teligard> Sounds great :-)
[5:48] <Teligard> Thank you so much :-)
[5:49] <Gremlyn> where you do you live Teligard?
[5:49] <Teligard> Virginia
[5:49] <Teligard> down in the Bristol area
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[5:49] <Teligard> And yourself?
[5:49] <Gremlyn> ah ok, US based then... I ordered a powered 7-port USB from Monoprice that a few have stated works well
[5:49] <Gremlyn> San Diego
[5:50] <Teligard> Good deal :-)
[5:50] <Gremlyn> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10307&cs_id=1030702&p_id=5328&seq=1&format=2
[5:51] <Gremlyn> seems a powered usb hub helps in power the USB devices instead of having the pi do that for you, which helps to stabilise the power
[5:51] <Gremlyn> in powering*
[5:51] <Gremlyn> extra current draw from mouse/kb or wifi dongle won't affect the available power on the pi itself
[5:51] <Teligard> hmmm, ok. I'm all about giving it a try. Been driving me nuts trying to get it not to go into screen corruption.
[5:52] <pksato> Teligard: hdmi out?
[5:52] <Teligard> yes
[5:53] <pksato> tryed boost hdmi signal?
[5:53] <Teligard> no, because the signal seems strong, it just corrupts after a bit of time.
[5:53] <Teligard> If I have the library scanning while watching a movie, it goes down sooner.
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[5:55] <pksato> and RPi hangs?
[5:56] <Teligard> Sometimes just xbmc hangs, other times, then whole thing locks up and I can't ssh in
[5:56] <pksato> may be defective unit. (bad memory)
[5:57] <Gremlyn> is there memtest for pi?
[5:58] <Teligard> I haven't found one
[5:58] <pksato> I do not know.
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[6:05] <brady2600> i know that i saw one availble on berryboot
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[6:34] <KidBeta> hey guys i got my pi!. also got xbmc installed but i was wondering (and i have tried google, but my fu i weak) what filesystems it supports because it appears that my exfat hdd is not being automounted (this seems normal)
[6:35] <ParkerR_> KidBeta, Depends on what XBMC cenetered OS you are using. Raspbmc, OpenELEC, etc
[6:35] <ParkerR_> *centered
[6:35] <KidBeta> xbian (i think?)
[6:35] <KidBeta> yeah xbian
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[6:50] <PHahrrgis> So I have a microUSB thing for an external hard drive, would that be sufficient power?
[6:51] <PHahrrgis> I also have a powered USB hub.
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[6:54] <KidBeta> PHahrrgis depends on the HDD i believe
[7:00] <Gremlyn> depends on the power supplied... as long as it meets the requirements
[7:02] <Gremlyn> KidBeta, don't think exfat is supported by default
[7:02] <KidBeta> would fat32 be
[7:02] <KidBeta> or am i dreaming
[7:04] <Gremlyn> I imagine that should be
[7:04] <KidBeta> i assume the default linux stuff will be out of the box
[7:04] <KidBeta> ext1,2,3 etc
[7:04] <Gremlyn> yeah
[7:04] <KidBeta> ill find a ext formatter (:
[7:05] <Gremlyn> can install gparted or gnome-disk-utility
[7:06] <ParkerR_> Anybody tried Pibang? It's hangin on boot at "My IP address is 192.168.2.149"
[7:06] <ParkerR_> *hanging
[7:06] <ParkerR_> cursor still flashes
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[7:08] <Gremlyn> haven't tried it... doesn't have anything else showing error around that time on the output?
[7:08] <ParkerR_> Nope. Just stops
[7:08] <Gremlyn> what kind of SD card?
[7:09] <ParkerR_> Only thing close to a warnning is the orage pulseaudio per user thing
[7:09] <ParkerR_> 8gb micro Sandisk
[7:09] <Gremlyn> tried rewriting the image?
[7:09] <ParkerR_> Going to retry
[7:09] <ParkerR_> *orange
[7:09] <Gremlyn> the system should tell you the IP address right before it hits the console/desktop
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[7:13] <brady2600> when i am using tight vnc, for some reason i can't use the ctrl key
[7:14] <brady2600> which pretty much effectively kills the usefulness of using my pi via vnc
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[7:15] <Gremlyn> ctrl key does what again?
[7:15] <Gremlyn> been forever since I used tvnc
[7:15] <brady2600> it doesnt happen
[7:16] <brady2600> like say im using vnc , and ive opened a terminal, and i open a document in nano, when it comes time to hit ctrl x to save , its as if ctrl isn't being pressed
[7:16] <brady2600> its just like im typing x
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[7:18] <Gremlyn> ohhh
[7:19] <Gremlyn> doesn't one of the two ctrl keys get reserved for a host system key?
[7:19] <Gremlyn> I think you can set which it is (left vs right)
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[7:19] <PHahrrgis> How's the sound quality on the 3.5 jack?
[7:21] <Gremlyn> good question...
[7:22] <brady2600> oh wow. ill try using the other ctrl key and see if it works Gremlyn
[7:22] <Gremlyn> brady2600, I might be getting that wrong, but I seem to remember something about that before
[7:23] <Gremlyn> used to use tvnc to access a machine running emacs a lot
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[7:24] <brady2600> nope. both ctrl keys do not produce a result
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[7:25] <Gremlyn> hrm
[7:26] <Gremlyn> maybe it was that the host system retained use of ctrl? not finding anything to job my memory online
[7:28] <Gremlyn> wondering if my corruption before was coming from having the turbo mode set
[7:29] <Gremlyn> brady2600, try shift-ctrl-___
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[7:29] <brady2600> shift and control at the same time or shift control underscores?
[7:30] <Gremlyn> underscore being whatever key you want to send, say x
[7:30] <Gremlyn> so shift-ctrl-x at the same time
[7:30] <brady2600> capital X
[7:30] <Gremlyn> hrm
[7:31] <Gremlyn> apparently that works to send ctrl-alt-delete, thought it might for this too
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[7:33] <brady2600> yay, right ctrl , shift, x
[7:33] <brady2600> that works
[7:33] <Gremlyn> there you go
[7:33] <Gremlyn> look here: http://automatthias.wordpress.com/2008/06/03/ctrl-key-not-working-in-vnc/
[7:33] <Gremlyn> not sure if that applies to you
[7:34] <brady2600> so that brings me back to the task of trying to get vnc to autostart. been struggling with that for a long time.
[7:34] <ParkerR_> Gremlyn, Ok redid the image. Went through rpi-config and set everything up. Highlighted "Finish", pressed enter, now it has just stopped on "Sending processes the TERM signal", blinking cursor on the next line
[7:35] <Gremlyn> didn't reboot?
[7:35] <ParkerR_> Nope just sitting there
[7:35] <ParkerR_> I can ssh in an reboot (that is what I did last time because it stopped here)
[7:35] <ParkerR_> *and
[7:35] <Gremlyn> you could take an image of the sd card and compare it to the original image and see if the match
[7:36] <Gremlyn> sounds like something is getting correupted on your sd card
[7:36] <Gremlyn> corrupted*
[7:37] <Gremlyn> similar to what I was seeing when my sd card was corrupted (random issues, hanging at strange places, etc)
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[7:40] <brady2600> are there cloning utilities so i can clone my ideal system whenever i get there?
[7:40] <Yitro> Anyone have a Western Digital Passport 500GB ext hdd working without a usb hub?
[7:46] <ParkerR_> brady2600, You have a linux install on your PC?
[7:46] <ParkerR_> Or even Window
[7:46] <ParkerR_> *Windows
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[7:48] <brady2600> i run ubuntu on my main machine
[7:48] <brady2600> ubuntu 12.10 / gnome 3.6
[7:49] <ParkerR_> brady2600, figure out what /dev device your sdcard shows up as in Ubuntu then sudo dd if=/dev/something of=sdcardbackup.img
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[7:51] <brady2600> thanks parkerr, i will look into that
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[8:01] <VanDyke> chalk up another useful purpose for the raspberry pi - wireless bridge.
[8:01] <VanDyke> today instead of running a wire to the garage I just used the raspberry pi with a micro wifi adapter to extend wired connections there, works like a charm
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[8:02] <Jungle-Boogie> that sure would work, VanDyke
[8:03] <VanDyke> didn't think it'd take only 3 brctl commands to do it
[8:03] <VanDyke> now I just need to embed it at startup and I'm golden
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[9:01] <viric> Hello ladies and gentlemen
[9:02] <viric> I'm using raspbian + kernel 3.6.7+ master, and a usb wireless adapter doesn't work very well
[9:02] <viric> it's like having 1min of link, and 30s without.
[9:02] <cerjam> sounds like you should invest in a hammer.
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[9:02] <cerjam> im of no help, sorry.
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[9:11] <Gremlyn> hi VanDyke
[9:11] <VanDyke> hi Gremlyn
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[9:22] <viric> cerjam: :)
[9:22] <viric> Well, in fact the link goes away after a little use...
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[9:22] <viric> Sometimes I've found that the kernel dropped the driver, sometimes wpa_supplicant is dead, ...
[9:22] <viric> It's a rt73 usb wnic
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[9:23] <viric> which works very well in other x86 computers I have.
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[9:26] <CelticTurnip> evening all
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[9:28] <Gremlyn> anyone know how I might test write speed to my sd card?
[9:28] <CelticTurnip> hdparm, bonnie++
[9:28] <CelticTurnip> dd
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[9:32] <Gremlyn> hrm, xbmc is reporting 100% CPU usage and only 15 fps
[9:32] <Gremlyn> in the menus
[9:33] <CelticTurnip> that menu bench mark is pretty gimped, play a video and test it that way... ssh in use top (or similar)
[9:34] <CelticTurnip> although 15FPS is shocking... I get 50-70
[9:34] <CelticTurnip> *in that menu benchie
[9:34] <Gremlyn> you oc'ed?
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[9:35] <CelticTurnip> yeah, I'm using an old version of Xbian that I frankenpatched
[9:35] <Gremlyn> I'm running base settings on raspbian right now
[9:35] <herdingcat> is there any rpi mailing list/
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[9:54] <frogman1984> hi guys... my first project for my future RP, is gonna be a home media center. I was thinking in using a K400 keyboard of logitech... do u now any alternative way to control de device from the sofa "wireless"... :-)
[9:55] <Gremlyn> damn, what keyboard button shows the info in xbmc while watching a movie
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[9:56] <CelticTurnip> Gremlyn: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Keyboard
[9:56] <Gremlyn> thanks
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[9:57] <Patagonicus> frogman1984: You could get an IR remote, the XBMC wiki has a list of compatible receivers.
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[9:58] <CelticTurnip> frogman1984: I just use my phone for XBMC
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[10:05] <Jck_true> frogman1984: Logitech diNovo Edge - Bluetooth keyboard with buildtin trackpad :)
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[10:07] <brady2600> is the raspbian image set up with ssh access via putty already ready to go?
[10:08] <brady2600> or is there something that needs to be configured to get that running. I've installed putty on my ubuntu box but im unsure why im not able to get a connection.
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[10:09] <CelticTurnip> why do you need putty? all *nixes have ssh installed :)
[10:09] <Patagonicus> Putty on Ubuntu? Isn't that just for Windows? And I think you'll need a DHCP Server (i.e. enable DHCP on your router) and find out what IP the Pi gets.
[10:09] <neilr> brady2600: when you boot Raspbian for the first time you go into raspi-config where you get the option to enable the SSH service.
[10:10] <brady2600> i did not realize that celticturnip, i was following a tutorial and i believe the guy had the windows putty so i checked for it in the software center
[10:11] <CelticTurnip> brady2600: do what's suggested above to make sure ssh is up and running
[10:11] <CelticTurnip> you can then connect from any terminal by doing:
[10:11] <CelticTurnip> ssh username@ip
[10:11] <CelticTurnip> and login just like normal
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[10:20] <frogman1984> ok. XBMC and wireless usb keyboard... i??ve got it...
[10:21] <cerjam> i dont know why people like xbmc as much as they do
[10:23] <Patagonicus> cerjam: Hmm, is there anything similar as an alternative? MythTV is more geared towards, well, TV, isn't it?
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[10:23] <CelticTurnip> it plays videos, it works... that's a good enough reason for me ;)
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[10:26] <Jck_true> cerjam: I'm not a huge fan of it either - but it works reasonably well.. And it's simple enough for even my mom to work it out...
[10:28] <brady2600> http://pastebin.com/41gTNKDE
[10:29] <brady2600> im attepting to connect via ssh to my raspberry pi, does this look right?
[10:30] <Patagonicus> Why is it trying to start vncserver and xorg? Line 17 should be something like pi@hostname ~ $
[10:30] <n1ko> brady2600: you are not attempting, you are connecting. You are already connected on line 17 :)
[10:31] <CelticTurnip> some login script is running
[10:31] <neilr> brady2600: The SSH connection looks good. If you want to tunnel X, that's another config option from the command line.
[10:32] <brady2600> i know i have tightvncserver running
[10:33] <Patagonicus> vnc has nothing to do with ssh. Altough they do have similar use cases. And for tunneling X, that only tunnels single programs, not a whole desktop, as far as I know.
[10:33] <CelticTurnip> as part of the login for your user? why wouldn't use it up as a normal service?
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[10:40] <brady2600> i realize that vnc is diffrent than ssh, i am using ssh, in order to start vnc
[10:40] <brady2600> at least thats what i hoped to do
[10:40] <CelticTurnip> if you have a vnc server running you just need to use a vnc client to connect to it
[10:40] <CelticTurnip> you don't need ssh
[10:41] <CelticTurnip> or if you want to go hard you can use ssh to tunnel a window manager or full desktop environment, but that's probably somthing for another day ;)
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[10:46] <brady2600> CelticTurnip: i cannot connect to it when its not running, i had hopes of running it from ssh. I already have a client, ive already connected to it.. i just don't like having to hook up a monitor every time. I would have tightvnc start automatically, however getting it to work has proven exceedingly difficult
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[10:47] <CelticTurnip> you've set it up incorrectly, basically you want to set your vnc server up using Linuxes init scripts so it starts at boot time.
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[10:52] <CelticTurnip> brady2600: there are plenty of guides online to get it working
[10:52] <CelticTurnip> http://elinux.org/RPi_VNC_Server
[10:53] <brady2600> Im aware. I've followed at least 6 diffrent ones today. No luck.
[10:53] <CelticTurnip> that guide is specifically for the Raspberry Pi I can see no reason for it not to work
[10:54] <CelticTurnip> unless you've screwed up somewhere... and to be honest the fact that when you log in via ssh the vnc server is trying to run (as you log in) it sure seems like it to me
[10:54] <brady2600> these were all in regards to the pi
[10:55] <CelticTurnip> what's your experience level with Linux? that elinux.org link is pretty self explanitory if you understand the UNIX shell
[10:56] <CelticTurnip> and don't take that as a diss, if you're new to the shell it might be easier for you to reimage your pi and start again
[10:56] <brady2600> what usually happens is i get part way into the process, and then something that they say will happen, doesn't or they make some sort of implied statment that im supposed to understand. Im clearly not that great with the prompt.
[10:57] <brady2600> ive been starting over on my pi every day now. lol.
[10:57] <CelticTurnip> I'd suggest starting again, and when you get to a point you don't understand just ask :)
[10:57] <brady2600> having actually have gotten some things done lately, it would be preferable not to lose it all again.
[10:58] <CelticTurnip> get a 2nd SD card :)
[10:58] <ShiftPlusOne> Most importantly, make sure you understand the commands you're typing. If you see something you're unsure about type 'man somecommand' and that will bring up all about somecommand. So when things don't work, you'll be able to understand why.
[10:59] <CelticTurnip> brady2600: the honest truth is the documentation for the Pi is lacking, and if you're new to the UNIX shell it's going to be hard
[10:59] <CelticTurnip> brady2600: like ShiftPlusOne recommended man is good (as long as the man pages are good - and sometimes they just aren't on some distros), it's 1 of those things where you learn by breaking stuff :)
[11:00] <CelticTurnip> then a few months later it start making sense, then years later you realise you knew nothing :)
[11:00] <brady2600> the link you just recently sent, i recall i had trouble with that one after the file had been created in /etc/init.d/
[11:01] <CelticTurnip> the best thing you can do, is if you get an error make sure you right it down exactly... try doing a google search on that error, or ask on this channel - everyone will try and help :)
[11:01] <brady2600> i had named it vncstart and had saved that code inside it, chmod'ed it and was able to get it to trigger , however it was returning an error of some sort, as if there was a yntax error , but i had simply cut and pasted it
[11:02] <applegekko> from a windows machine?
[11:02] <CelticTurnip> brady2600: depending on your browser sometimes characters can get dropped or come out incorrect
[11:02] <brady2600> wonderful.
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[11:02] <brady2600> lol.
[11:02] <CelticTurnip> brady2600: it sucks, but it happens :)
[11:03] <CelticTurnip> for example on my Mac ` can come out as '
[11:03] <brady2600> well if you guys bear with me , i can pull up that page on the pi, paste it back in , trigger it and report back what it was exactly
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[11:19] <CelticTurnip> off to bed... good luck with it brady2600, if you cant get it going I'll be back on tomorrow my time
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[11:33] <gazzwi86> hi all
[11:34] <gazzwi86> I have an issue using the MCP23017 chip to register inputs
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[11:35] <gazzwi86> I have a post in the forum, but if anyone else could make some suggestions if i fix it I can post the info back: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=24474&p=226010#p226010
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[12:02] <viric> Gremlyn: for what I know, only omxplayer can play using the gpu. isn't it true?
[12:03] <ParkerR_> viric, Also what I thought
[12:03] <viric> so it's normal that xbmc has an inacceptable playback speed
[12:04] <ShiftPlusOne> afaik omxplayer is written by the xbmc team
[12:04] <ShiftPlusOne> and is what xbmc uses (correct me if I am wrong)
[12:04] <ParkerR_> Hmm
[12:04] <viric> ah I thought xbmc was 'another video player'
[12:04] <ShiftPlusOne> "Omxplayer is a video player specifically made for the Raspberry PI's GPU made by Edgar (gimli) Hucek from the XBMC project."
[12:05] <ParkerR_> XBMC uses backends like ffmpeg
[12:05] <ShiftPlusOne> http://elinux.org/Omxplayer
[12:05] <ParkerR_> :O
[12:05] <ParkerR_> I've talked to gimli before
[12:06] <ParkerR_> He is the one that got opengl visualizers working on the XBMC iDevice ports
[12:06] <ShiftPlusOne> I can see omxplayer in xbmc source files as well
[12:06] <ShiftPlusOne> xbmc/cores/omxplayer
[12:07] <ShiftPlusOne> https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/tree/master/xbmc/cores/omxplayer
[12:07] <ShiftPlusOne> so yeah, xbmc uses omxplayer for playback on pi
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[12:08] <ParkerR_> I *think* omxplayer was implemented in XBMC just for the Pi
[12:08] <ShiftPlusOne> 'course
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[12:13] <ParkerR_> Loving omxplayer combined with yt. Nice little youtube browser in the terminal
[12:14] <ParkerR_> Loving framebuffer
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[12:26] <viric> ParkerR_: how do you combine that?
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[12:28] <ParkerR_> viric, https://github.com/rjw57/yt
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[12:55] <Megaf> hi all, anyone running OpenELEC here?
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[12:57] <sraue> Megaf, i run this sometimes :-) other then that you find some users in #openelec who runs OpenELEC (also on RPi)
[12:59] <Megaf> yup, I just cant find a proper disk image
[12:59] <Megaf> Im wating for some reply on #OpenELEC
[13:01] <Megaf> just got it :) http://openelec.thestateofme.com/
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[13:49] <neilr> Bit of a long shot this one, but is anyone out there using Gutenprint on RISC OS on their pi?
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[14:10] <gazzwi86> I'm trying to play sound files with pygame, notes from an instrument buts its not very responsive. How can I improve this?
[14:12] <gazzwi86> Is there a more responsive method?
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[14:23] <Muzer> what other crazy OSes can I install on mine? :P
[14:23] <Muzer> I have RISC OS and Plan 9
[14:24] <Muzer> I suppose there's FreeBSD too
[14:24] <Muzer> but the rest are mostly Linux-based aren't they? A bit boring.
[14:24] <Jck_true> Muzer: Android, WebOS
[14:24] <Muzer> oh, yes
[14:24] <Muzer> that could be interesting.
[14:24] <Jck_true> Muzer: I did read some stuff about Minix once i think...
[14:24] <Muzer> I could only find a "barely usable" image of Android, and I dunno about WebOS.
[14:24] <Jck_true> WebOS seriously tempts me :)
[14:25] <Jck_true> Muzer: It's only the kernel that runs from WebOS afaik.,. the rest haven't been open source yet (AFAIK)
[14:25] <Muzer> ah.
[14:25] <Muzer> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/open-webos
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[14:25] <Muzer> "???This video shows the first public build of open webOS running on the Raspberry Pi. There is no GUI at this point in time for ARM builds, there should be one within a month or so. When the GUI is up and running I will release a ROM to the community.??? Thanks aaa801 ??? we???re looking forward to it!"
[14:26] <Muzer> so, er, no WebOS image yet
[14:26] <Draylor> webos, riscos, the pi is becoming awesome as a museum for dead OSs
[14:26] <Muzer> yep :P
[14:26] <Muzer> and Plan 9
[14:26] <Muzer> don't forget that ;)
[14:27] <Draylor> never used it or had a reason to care :)
[14:27] <Draylor> riscos on the other hand was awesome in its day
[14:27] <Muzer> yes.
[14:27] <Muzer> Plan 9 is really odd.
[14:27] <Muzer> the thoughts behind it goes something like this:
[14:27] <Muzer> * Programmers mostly use command-line tools
[14:27] <Muzer> * But awesome GUIs exist in Windows and Mac OS, but those OSes suck
[14:27] <Muzer> * Let's make a GUI OS for programmers
[14:28] <Muzer> so, yeah, it's like Unix but you can't use it without a mouse
[14:28] <Draylor> how well does it run emacs? :)
[14:28] <Muzer> there's many other things odd with it too :p
[14:28] <Jck_true> I promised myself to look more closely on playstation emulators :)
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[14:29] <Muzer> it has its own text editor called acme, which is again really weird.
[14:29] <Jck_true> last time i checked it "almost" ran at a usable speed :)
[14:29] <egrouse> did it work as well as the acme products from roadrunner?
[14:29] <Muzer> tbh I have no idea about the history of the thing/why it failed
[14:29] <Muzer> I only just more than vaguely heard about it a couple of days ago
[14:29] <Muzer> and I got it working well with my crazily hacky dual-boot setup last night.
[14:32] <Muzer> but yeah, I could give Android a go
[14:33] <Muzer> Assuming it wouldn't object to running on an extended partition
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[14:39] <descention> My pi shipped. I'm looking forward to taping it to the back of my TV.
[14:40] <nid0> tape? no vesa mounts on the tv?
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[14:41] <mafi> descention: where did you buy it?
[14:41] <descention> allied electronics
[14:43] <descention> nid0: the TV is already mounted and I said tape mostly for effect. I'll likely find a way to attach it to the mounting with something less sticky.
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[14:46] <Muzer> right, gonna try to get Android going
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[14:56] <Hoerie> <+descention> nid0: the TV is already mounted and I said tape mostly for effect. I'll likely find a way to attach it to the mounting with something less sticky. <-- velcro
[14:56] <Muzer> hmmm
[14:56] <Muzer> what's the best way to tell if I have a 512MB Pi?
[14:56] <Muzer> I only just found that they existed :P
[14:56] <descention> I've read if it was made after oct of this year.
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[14:58] <Muzer> yeah
[14:58] <Muzer> I can't remember when mine shipped
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[14:58] <Muzer> it was one of the ones from RS that took forever
[14:58] <linuxstb> Muzer: Look at the writing on the RAM chip, and see if it says "2G" or "4G" as part of the model number
[14:58] <linuxstb> (2G = 2 gigabits = 256KB)
[14:59] <Muzer> ah, thanks
[14:59] <Muzer> 2G
[14:59] <Muzer> ah well
[14:59] <Hoerie> 256MB not KB, I suppose ;-)
[14:59] <linuxstb> Hoerie: Perhaps ;)
[14:59] <Muzer> er, yes :P
[14:59] <Muzer> lol
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[14:59] <Hoerie> though 64KB is enough for anything, ever, as we all know
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[15:37] <Jck_true> Ohh and I now got a Nokia 3310 display in the mail :P Hope it arrives from china before christmas time - Gonna have some fun thoose days then
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[16:26] <shikhin> What's the NIC on the raspberry pi?
[16:26] <shikhin> Is it open?
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[16:29] <advisor> should i be running a tor middle node?
[16:31] <BurtyB> ask an 8ball?
[16:32] <FBeans> 15:31 <@FBeans> !8ball 15:30 <+BurtyB> ask an 8ball?
[16:32] <FBeans> 15:31 <@Bratchbot> I have my doubts.
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[16:33] <FBeans> (the 8ball suggests that you do not ask an 8ball)
[16:33] <nid0> paradoxical.
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[16:54] <buZz> w0000t
[16:54] <buZz> received a lapdock today
[16:54] <buZz> and had some random hdmi adapters
[16:54] <buZz> worked at first try O_o
[16:54] <buZz> http://nurdspace.nl/RasPi_Lapdock_Laptop#Mini_Blog
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[17:20] <neilr> mmmm. Must have been using too many missiles in Elite. My 'm' key is now broken on my other keyboard on my Raspbian Pi.
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[17:32] <buZz> lol
[17:33] <buZz> man i cant wait until i receive the last adaptercables
[17:33] <buZz> raspi laptop <3
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[19:05] <dddbmt> Hey People. Does anyone have had succes using a netgear n600 wifi dongle?
[19:05] <buZz> which chipset is it?
[19:05] <dddbmt> Nothing shows up in 'wifi config '
[19:05] <buZz> try 'lsusb'
[19:05] <dddbmt> buzz Wnda3100?
[19:06] <buZz> no thats the netgear modelnumber
[19:06] <dddbmt> buzz it shows in lsusb
[19:06] <buZz> as?
[19:06] * MichaelC|Away is now known as MichaelC
[19:07] <buZz> wnda3200 _is_ supported btw
[19:07] <buZz> i just find this;
[19:07] <buZz> The WNDA-3100 sister product uses at least two different chipsets but all the WNDA-3200's I have encountered use the same Atheros chipset.
[19:07] <dddbmt> bus 001 device 006 id 0846:9011 netgear Inc.
[19:08] <buZz> ah
[19:08] <buZz> i see ppl are using ndiswrapper for it
[19:08] <buZz> which doesnt work on raspi
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[19:10] <dddbmt> buZz I got kicked off.. Were you saying anything to me?
[19:10] <buZz> 19:08:40 <+buZz> i see ppl are using ndiswrapper for it
[19:10] <buZz> 19:08:44 <+buZz> which doesnt work on raspi
[19:11] <dddbmt> so... I wont get it to work?
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[19:11] <buZz> dddbmt: very doubtfull. probably not
[19:12] <dddbmt> buZz bummer - but thanks for your time.
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[19:19] <loganville> quick question, is there a way to automatically have the pi boot up after a power failure, the only options I've seen so far in the forums is to use additional hardware
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[19:21] <psmullal> loganville: my rpi boots as soon as power is attached. Not sure if you would need anything special (but I am just a consumer, not a h/w expert)
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[19:22] <loganville> psmullal: mine does that too
[19:22] <psmullal> loganville: then what is your question?
[19:23] <loganville> the issue is if the building loses power, the pis don't seem to boot back up
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[19:23] <loganville> we have to remove the power cord and reconnect it
[19:23] <psmullal> loganville: sounds like a problem with your building. =)
[19:24] <psmullal> s/problem/[function|feature]/
[19:24] <Hodapp> wow, 300 KB/sec writing to this SD card
[19:24] <Muzer> could it be that when the power comes back on, there's a surge or something that temporarily knocks out the power adaptors for the Pis? I don't know much about electricity so this might be horribly wrong :P
[19:24] <loganville> psmullal: I thought so, but I know software not hardware
[19:24] <loganville> That was my thought
[19:25] <loganville> but we are using usb power from tvs
[19:25] <psmullal> loganville: what if you put the rpi on a UPS?
[19:25] <psmullal> ah!
[19:25] <Muzer> oh. The TVs aren't coming back on? ;)
[19:25] <psmullal> loganville: sounds like you need to tell the TV to turn back on after power failure
[19:25] <loganville> They require powering on, but the pi doesn't follow
[19:25] <psmullal> Muzer++
[19:25] <Muzer> or
[19:25] <du> why debian? there's nothing really stopping anyone from running any other OS on the raspberry pi? except that they'd have to install linux and make sure that they had the drivers. right?
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[19:26] <Muzer> they are coming on, but the TV's power supply isn't stable enough to boot the Pis
[19:26] <Muzer> whilst the TV is turning on
[19:26] <loganville> that makes sense
[19:26] <loganville> so using an actual power supply might fix it
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[19:26] <loganville> the boss here loves his big visible charts
[19:27] <Muzer> I personally wouldn't power a Pi from any other device than an actual power supply unless there was no other option.
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[19:27] <Muzer> but I'm paranoid.
[19:27] <Hodapp> I'd do it if I had a 7805 to put it through perhaps
[19:27] <loganville> so every power outage someone has to walk around the building turning back on all of the tvs
[19:27] <Hodapp> and knew I wouldn't sink much power
[19:29] <Disconnect> Muzer: fwiw mine are both powered off (listed-working) hubs. and at better voltages than the power adapters mcm recommended
[19:29] <Disconnect> but i wouldn't go with a tv.
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[19:30] <Muzer> well, a hub I would be fine with personally
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[19:30] <Muzer> also, that's an interesting idea
[19:30] <Muzer> plugging the pi into the hub
[19:30] <loganville> eh, the IT guys don't want to run/buy power adapters
[19:30] <Muzer> with two cables :P
[19:30] <Muzer> then using the hub as an actual hub as well as a power supply for the Pi
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[19:31] <loganville> what if the hub was plugged into the TV?
[19:32] <Disconnect> Muzer: thats exactly what i have. 7 port powered hub, pi powered off the plug closest to the hub psu connection.
[19:32] <Disconnect> got 6" cables for it but they are a tiny bit too short, i'll probably buy 1' next month
[19:33] <loganville> are there any stats on common usages for the pis?
[19:34] <Disconnect> there's no real registration so i doubt it.
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[19:35] <Disconnect> xbmc is surprisingly common though. pretty nice, get a full media center for under $50USD (it even handled playback of side-by-side 1080p 3d)
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[19:37] <egrouse> Disconnect: how well does XBMC actually perform on the Pi - i've yet to try it, but that was one of my original reasons for getting a pi
[19:37] <Disconnect> its beautiful. i use raspbmc and i let the tv remote handle controlling it over hdmi
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[19:38] <Disconnect> minor overclock to get 1080p playback smooth (doesn't void the warranty at supported levels)
[19:38] <egrouse> yeah i have mine OC already??? i couldnt resist the temptation
[19:38] <loganville> what is the supported OC level?
[19:38] <egrouse> no OV so should be fine warranty wise too :)
[19:38] <egrouse> will have to get it installed
[19:39] <egrouse> i got one of 930 from the wiki loganville; i think its as long as you dont overvolt you are safe in warranty
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[19:39] <Disconnect> yah if you don't set over-voltage or one other (I don't recall off the top of my head) you can oc
[19:39] <viric> mh the wlan nic here died this way:
[19:39] <viric> Dec 3 17:47:41 raspberrypi kernel: [73552.562618] phy0 -> rt2x00lib_rxdone: Error - Wrong frame size 2605 max 2432.
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[19:39] <Disconnect> you can set overvolt as well (with force-turbo off) for certain settings. raspi-config has some defaults now
[19:39] <viric> (saying that every 20 seconds or so)
[19:39] <loganville> I need to play with that later...
[19:39] <egrouse> :)
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[19:41] * Disconnect is running a warranty-supported 1ghz (core freq 500, sdram 600, overvolt 6 - all set through raspi-config)
[19:41] <Disconnect> oh and arm_freq 1000
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[19:43] <dipstick> :o
[19:43] * dipstick just oc'ed his pi to 800mhz
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[19:49] <tanuva> my newly received 512mb-pi always turns off after working for a bit. in raspbmc it only takes a few minutes of airplay-playback or simple cpu load when loading a plugin. (therefore unusable). on arch linux, my last test showed 12 minutes of busy waiting before it turned off. Am I doing something wrong or is my pi broken?
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[19:50] <tanuva> the psu is a nokia n900 charger which should deliver 1,5A
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[19:51] <dipstick> mine would freeze if the cpu is loaded at 100% for over 10 secs or so....
[19:51] <viric> really?
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[19:51] <viric> with what usb devices connected?
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[19:51] <dipstick> usb logitech keyboard
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[19:52] <viric> dipstick: only cpu, or cpu+gpu working hard?
[19:52] <dipstick> psu, 5v 750ma
[19:52] <tanuva> I had an apple keyboard and a mouse for short time
[19:52] <viric> 750mA is at the limit...
[19:52] <tanuva> (does the usb hub in the apple keyboard kill it?)
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[19:52] <viric> doesn't it want 700mA + USB devices load?
[19:52] <dipstick> the best one I have atm
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[19:53] <dipstick> thinking of driving it from a comp psu on the 5v rail for now.
[19:53] <viric> I'm going with 1A, and the wnic fails after a while. But I've no idea if it's related to the power.
[19:53] <viric> dipstick: buy a new power supply
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[19:53] <Disconnect> tanuva: check http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=20657 as well, might be part of the possibly-bad batch
[19:53] <dipstick> viric, need monies
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[19:54] <viric> hm my 1A power supply was 8,5???
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[19:54] <tanuva> hm, the "waiting for 4 months" thing sounds familiar. will read.
[19:55] <dipstick> I'ma find one that puts out 2A
[19:55] <Disconnect> but you should start with a cheap multimeter and see if there are obvious voltage issues
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[19:56] <viric> the multimeter says 4.92V here
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[20:00] <dipstick> case in point, mine crashes under heavy load, have to power cycle to reset.
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[20:03] <Patagonicus> I think I'm doing something wrong. Quake 3 gets less than 1fps on the menu. :/
[20:03] <dipstick> oh snap
[20:03] <viric> I hope someone ends up making supertuxkart work
[20:03] <Patagonicus> Wait, wasn't there some binary you needed for the graphics card?
[20:04] <dipstick> rawr, why doesn't amazon have any 2A adaptors with a micro usb port?
[20:05] <uski> dipstick, 2A is not standard USB
[20:05] <uski> USB is 500mA max
[20:05] <uski> adapters providing more current are proprietary
[20:05] <uski> and use special voltage levels on the connector
[20:05] <uski> so it makes sense that amazon sells only standard stuff
[20:06] <dipstick> who said anything about standards? the pi doesn't respect this "standard"
[20:06] <uski> i know samsung and apple make usb adapters that are able to provide more juice
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[20:06] <uski> dipstick, this "standard" is the usb standard
[20:06] <uski> i don't say that it's bad not respecting it
[20:06] <uski> just that it does make sense that it's harder to buy off the shelf adapters providing more than 500mA
[20:06] <uski> because devices having a use for it are rare
[20:06] <dipstick> I know the standard. if all manufactures respected it, not even the ipad could exist.
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[20:07] <pksato> 500mA per port. 4 port usb hub need +2A.
[20:07] <uski> dipstick, apple still respects the standard : if you connect an ipad to a standard usb charger, it will charge at 500mA max
[20:07] <uski> pksato, that's why you need an external power supply
[20:07] <pycoderf> Hello all. Is there a reason when i try to set 1024x768 in config.txt i get no output to a visio tv when it works by defaukt
[20:07] <uski> and that's also why it's forbidden, as per the usb specs, to connect a self powered hub to another self powered hub
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[20:08] <pycoderf> I do not even see the boot text but the pi lights up correctly
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[20:09] <dipstick> I found some 2 amp adaptors with barrel connectors though. >..
[20:09] <dipstick> ..>
[20:09] <dipstick> >.>
[20:09] <pycoderf> Nobody has an idea? Could it be the tv does not support dmt modes
[20:10] <dipstick> then why do single port, 1a adaptors exist?
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[20:11] <pksato> PSU with USB port is only for power device. dont have any USB function.
[20:11] <uski> dipstick, they probably use the apple standard, i.e. resistors with a specific value on the signal lines, to advertise that they can supply more than 500mA, if the device connected understands this
[20:12] <dipstick> ya don't say!
[20:12] <uski> pycoderf, i have no idea, sorry, but maybe other people will. if no answer, come back later and ask again so that different people see your request :)
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[20:12] <pycoderf> Problem im trying to find out dor work which i return to shortly
[20:13] <pksato> pycoderf: some TVs dont suport dmt modes.
[20:13] <pycoderf> Is there a cma res that woild be 1024x768?
[20:13] <pksato> change to hdmi_drive=2 and use one of tv resolutions.
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[20:14] <pycoderf> How eould drive help if hdmi_group=1 doeant have the right rssolution
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[20:16] <pycoderf> Or am i missing something about it
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[20:16] <pksato> hdmi_mode=4 hdmi_group=1 hdmi_drive=2 (720p@60Hz)
[20:17] <pycoderf> But as stated i need 1024x768 for application compatability but will try that
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[20:19] <pycoderf> Pksato will give that a try and see what happens
[20:19] <pksato> you TV accept 1024x768 from HDMI input?
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[20:19] <pycoderf> I dont know it works with vga
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[20:20] <pycoderf> Is rhere some way i can find out
[20:20] <pksato> or
[20:21] <pksato> hdmi_mode=16 hdmi_group=2 hdmi_drive=2 (1024x768@60Hz)
[20:21] <pycoderf> Dmt is what i tried, that mode and groip, and it gave no displau
[20:22] <pksato> hdmi_drive=2
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[20:22] <pksato> Last week I try to use a HDMI to VGA converter, and need do set hdmi_drive=2 to work correct.
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[20:24] <Wojtulas> Hello! I need help. Which USB DVB-S2 TV Tuner will be cmpatible with raspberry and xbmc?
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[20:29] <pksato> Wojtulas: http://www.linuxtv.org/
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[20:33] <tanuva> yay. probably I have to return my pi to RS. that company doesn't look too quick to me >.>
[20:35] * tanuva begs fo a new pi before christmas
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[20:38] <elgrecoFL> 
[20:38] <Gremlyn> RS seems to be horrifically slow
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[20:41] <gordonDrogon> evening pi peeps.
[20:43] <Gremlyn> evening? morning!
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[20:47] <Disconnect> afternoon here so pthththth
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[20:51] <gordonDrogon> definately after afternoon here.
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[20:55] <du> i got 4 RPis from mcmelectronics.com, took a week for it to deliver
[20:55] <du> got them friday
[20:55] <du> i had the good fortune of finding their web site only a few days before they got stock back in though.
[20:56] <du> so for 3 days i waited until they came back in stock. then they got them, and on the 3rd/4th day i placed my order.
[20:56] <du> a day or so later they were out of stock and on backorder again
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[20:57] * Disconnect got 2 (backordered then shipped finally) and a 3rd while they were still in stock, but it was bad :/ so now its on the way back and i'm hoping they don't screw me on backorder.
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[21:03] <CatKiller> Hi there! Quick question: I'd like (as an experiment) to power a USB peripheral with 1A *without* having to rely on a USB hub on a RPI rev 2.0
[21:04] <Gremlyn> you want RPi to supply 1A from it's USB port?
[21:04] <CatKiller> I saw lots of guides explaining how to bypass F3 and connect the power directly from the microUsb to the external USB ports (adding a polyfuse in between), but is it still safe to do on a rev 2.0?
[21:04] <CatKiller> yes
[21:04] <CatKiller> from 1 USB port
[21:04] <CatKiller> the input will be 2A
[21:05] <CatKiller> (the power adapter will output 2A max, expecting a stable voltage at 2A)
[21:06] <CatKiller> I saw some guides where they simply add two wires from the micro USB to the USB ports, some before the F3 polyfuse and some after
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[21:06] <CatKiller> Just wondering if this can be done on the rev2 board too
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[21:06] <Gremlyn> sorry CatKiller, I can't be any help on whether it is safe to do...
[21:06] <Gremlyn> there is one way to find out ;)
[21:06] <CatKiller> :)
[21:07] <Gremlyn> why do you want that rather than the hub? just to save space?
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[21:07] <CatKiller> What has me worried is that now that the power can backfeeds from the external USB ports, can that make that 1.0 mod behave differently
[21:07] <CatKiller> Yes
[21:07] <pksato> 1A from a single USB port? Its above usb especification.
[21:08] <du> do i risk any damage if i use a usb hub that is not self powered? i need to plug my wifi dongle in
[21:08] <CatKiller> or even 500mA from both ports
[21:08] <CatKiller> i.e. I'd like to plug one or two 2.5inches USB drives on the external ports
[21:09] <tanuva> mail to RS sent, lets see if I get a reply before christmas...
[21:09] <du> what is the power specification for usb2?
[21:09] <pksato> cable mod is more simple and safe.
[21:09] <CatKiller> 500mA
[21:09] <du> so that's why you're not supposed to power the rpi via usb
[21:10] <Gremlyn> du, you risk under powering your RPi and corrupting your SD card
[21:10] <CatKiller> It's more out of curiosity really, just wondering if it would be possible
[21:10] <du> thx Gremlyn
[21:10] <CatKiller> I'd love it if I could plug the RPI and two USB drives without a USB hub, a lot smaller and compact
[21:10] <du> how much power does the rpi need to run stable? 1.5A?
[21:11] <CatKiller> a lot less
[21:11] <Gremlyn> 5v @ 700mA
[21:11] <du> 700mA
[21:11] <CatKiller> let's say 750ma
[21:11] <CatKiller> sorry, wrong ;)
[21:11] <Gremlyn> but yeah, using a power a supply that gives 1000mA+ is your best bet
[21:12] <pksato> CatKiller: bypass all polyfuses and maintein a fire extinguisher close. :)
[21:12] <du> ok thx this makes sense now
[21:12] <Gremlyn> I wonder what the small powered USB hub available is
[21:12] <CatKiller> So nobody here has had two USB drives connected on the RPI without external power?
[21:12] <CatKiller> pksato: I could add fuses on the new lines added
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[21:13] <pksato> cable mod. is more simple and not void the warranty of rpi.
[21:14] <jelly1> why dont you use a hub?
[21:14] <CatKiller> Just a size issue
[21:14] <jelly1> eh
[21:14] <pksato> buy some cables or extensions, cut and re-wire gnd and 5v.
[21:14] <CatKiller> And it's also for me to understand
[21:15] <CatKiller> But pksato, wouldn't a cable mod essentially do the same thing as soldering wires between the microUSB power input and the external USB ones?
[21:15] <CatKiller> except that it's an external mod instead of being directly soldered
[21:16] <CatKiller> sorry, of course not since you'd disconnect the 5v and ground from the connector that plugs to the board
[21:17] <pksato> Yes. but, if you dont have electronics know, is more easy to cut wires.
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[21:17] <du> can anyone recommend a soldering gun and voltometer, i'm going to ask my wife for one for christmas
[21:17] <CatKiller> I'll look into all that, thanks for the help anyways!
[21:18] <CatKiller> Bye!
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[21:18] <du> aheh, just realized his/her name was "cat killer
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[21:19] <plugwash> generally soldering guns are designed for big heavy wiring work, for work on circuit boards you generally want a soldering iron.
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[21:19] <plugwash> personally the nicest iron i've used is a weller WMP but i'd have to be doing a LOT of soldering before i'd buy one with my own money
[21:19] <du> soldering iron
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[21:19] <du> i'm <amature
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[21:20] <Gremlyn> you want something that gets hot quickly, and has a stand
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[21:21] <pksato> du, choose one http://dx.com/s/multimeter
[21:22] <mrmoney2012> hi chaps - this works for me ??? aplay busbell.wav -D sysdefault:CARD=Device
[21:22] <mrmoney2012> but how do i specify that device as default ?
[21:23] <nimtz> can you guys recommend a wifi adaptor that works well ootb with the latest raspbian
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[21:23] <nimtz> hopefully one that doesnt require powered hub
[21:23] <nimtz> and has decent range
[21:23] <du> i have an old wifi dongle from linksys that is supposed to be compatible but it needs a powered hub
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[21:24] <du> and so, i havent tried. but apparently getting it to work is a breeze
[21:24] <pksato> decent range = more power
[21:24] <Gremlyn> mrmoney2012, default for... the system? xbmc?
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[21:24] <Gremlyn> sysdefault should be the default already
[21:24] <mrmoney2012> the system - headless with a usb sound card - raspbian
[21:25] <mrmoney2012> am sure the answer lies in either /etc/asound.conf or /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[21:25] <Gremlyn> doesn't raspbian use pulse?
[21:25] <mrmoney2012> not certain what to change though
[21:25] <pksato> we need one similar to it, but for USB. http://dx.com/p/hdmi-male-to-hdmi-female-adapter-w-power-input-port-black-155361
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[21:49] <xibalba> I'm just checking out the Raspberry Pi fo rthe first time, is it possible to hookup a bluetooth unit to it?
[21:50] <Muzer> I would say, a USB one, yes
[21:50] <tanuva> as long as it doesn't draw more than 140 mA
[21:51] <tanuva> (don't know how much power bluetooth needs)
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[21:51] <xibalba> so to get started with a Pi, is it similiar to a PcEngines/ALIX board? I've setup a few of those before with BSD
[21:55] <xibalba> looks fairly simliar with the exception of using a serial cable to get console access
[21:56] <xibalba> do most of you actually compile apps on the Pi itself? or package them elsewhere and install remotely?
[21:56] * jelly1 does
[21:57] <jelly1> compile on the pi
[21:57] <Gremlyn> xibalba, all depends on what you are looking to do
[21:57] <xibalba> i'm not sure yet :)
[21:57] <xibalba> I used the Alix baords for routers
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[21:58] <mrmoney2012> [ 978.127657] EXT4-fs error (device mmcblk0p2): add_dirent_to_buf:1276: inode #17: block 7320: comm http: bad entry in directory: rec_len % 4 != 0 - offset=0(0), inode=0, rec_len=29537, name_len=112...
[21:58] <mrmoney2012> grrrr - this pi keeps corrupting memory cards - i think it's a wrong un'
[21:58] <xibalba> I was thinking about trying to use one to monitor power from an outlet, and maybe control the on/off functions of said outlet
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[22:03] <xibalba> i dont understand the issue with not having an RTC, how does that affect the system?
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[22:04] <xibalba> is it not possible of keeping time, or just accurate time over a lengthy period?
[22:04] <Patagonicus> The RTC is used for keeping track of the time when the computer is not running. So without any other measures the Pi will always boot up with a time shortly after midnight 1.1.1970
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[22:05] <xibalba> ah ok, but it doesn't matter so long as the box is up and/or you're using NTP
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[22:05] <xibalba> can i hookup sensor type stuff to it like an arduino? I guess what's the main diff between RPi and Arduino?
[22:06] <xibalba> obviously this is cheaper to start
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[22:07] <pksato> RPi have a more power full CPU and have a GPU.
[22:07] <xibalba> could i hookup some of the peripherals they offer for Arduino to a RPi ?
[22:08] <pksato> yes.
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[22:08] <Patagonicus> There's also swclock, which saves the current time at shutdown in a file and restores that on boot. Will be off by the time the device was off, but it should be better than having no idea what time is it at all. NTP is very important, though.
[22:08] <Disconnect> afaik pi has significantly less IO though
[22:09] <xibalba> could you guys point me to an example of hooking up a RPi to a small display interface?
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[22:09] <pksato> but, RPi lacks some features, like as timers.
[22:10] <Disconnect> http://learn.adafruit.com/category/raspberry-pi
[22:10] <xibalba> oh wonderful
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[22:11] <Disconnect> http://learn.adafruit.com/matrix-7-segment-led-backpack-with-the-raspberry-pi for example
[22:11] <xibalba> i'd like to build something for my car, grab some measurement info
[22:11] <CelticTurnip> hi all
[22:12] <xibalba> Disconnect, this is going to be alot of fun. thanks for the great link
[22:12] <Disconnect> np enjoy
[22:12] <SpeedEvil> xibalba: just connect a 3.5" composite display to the pi
[22:12] <xibalba> Disconnect, I'm curious what I do for power. they speak of a pwoer supply, but it doesn't appear to come with the board
[22:13] <xibalba> SpeedEvil, have a link to an example one? i just found this http://adafruit.com/products/914
[22:13] <Wojtulas> Which USB DVB-S2 TV Tuner will be cmpatible with raspberry and xbmc?
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[22:17] <SpeedEvil> http://dx.com/p/3-5-lcd-visual-reversing-vehicles-reverse-camera-monitor-ntsc-pal-dc12v-961126250
[22:18] <pksato> xibalba: RPi not come with power supply. Its use any 5V@1A PSU.
[22:18] <pksato> PSU like used to charge mobile devices.
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[22:19] <Patagonicus> xibalba: Or, in other words, your looking for a USB mobile phone charger with a micro USB cable and >=1A
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[22:32] <xibalba> anyone know of an example on reading data from a car computer? such as RPM
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[22:34] <du> decompile the firmware and upload the data to the onboard megadrive couple the flux capacitor megabyte
[22:34] <du> ground
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[22:34] <du> i jest, idk
[22:35] <xibalba> what is a DAC?
[22:36] <lunra> Digital to Analog Converter
[22:36] <xibalba> n/m digi2analog
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[22:37] <tanuva> xibalba: you want to read the CAN bus I guess, probably there's some code for that
[22:38] <SpeedEvil> http://dx.com/p/obd2-obdii-bluetooth-auto-car-diagnostic-scan-tool-12v-126281
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[22:38] <SpeedEvil> get that
[22:38] <tanuva> (my car is just one model generation before they got a can bus though)
[22:38] <SpeedEvil> or similar
[22:38] <xibalba> thanks book marked it
[22:38] <xibalba> SpeedEvil, does that hook into your ODB ?
[22:38] <SpeedEvil> yes
[22:39] <xibalba> man im getting giddy with this stuff
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[22:41] <xibalba> what's a Gertboard?
[22:41] <xibalba> ah expansion card
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[22:47] <Disconnect> yah i've got a cheap bt odb-ii reader, its pretty handy. haven't paired it to a pi tho
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[22:54] <jelly1> bah good stuff is always expensive
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[22:56] <plugwash> but expensive stuff isn't always good :/
[22:56] <du> and always is seldom always
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[22:57] <du> seldom is relative to forever
[22:57] <du> forever is unfathomable
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[23:34] <du> where are the onboard device drivers for use with other operating systems?
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[23:36] <CelticTurnip> in the kernels of the other operating systems? :P
[23:36] <Muzer> well, broadcom released theirs didn't they?
[23:36] <Muzer> and the rest of the stuff is standard.
[23:37] <Muzer> (well, released the stuff that runs on the ARM, not the proprietary firmware)
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[23:41] <ajitam> hi, I have a problem - I mess-up my /etc/passwd. Is there I way I can mount RPi partition on Mac and fix /etc/passwd or at least recover my home folder?
[23:42] <Muzer> do Macs support ext partitions?
[23:42] <Muzer> (not sure which ext Raspbian uses)
[23:43] <Muzer> if so, you should just be able to mount it
[23:43] <CelticTurnip> OS X doesn't support EXTx
[23:44] <mgottschlag> you could mount it from a virtual machine though
[23:44] <CelticTurnip> there may be some random 3rd party haxie though
[23:44] <Muzer> just use Linux :P
[23:44] <Muzer> live CD or something
[23:44] <Muzer> do Macs work with live CDs?
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[23:45] <pksato> http://adennyh.blogspot.com.br/2011/11/mounting-linux-hdd-ext4ext3ex2-in-osx.html
[23:46] <ajitam> pksato: hehe I just notice the sec. dog :)
[23:47] <ajitam> up dog = dmg
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[23:51] <ajitam> great! I'm in but I don't hae
[23:51] <ajitam> have permission to change passwd
[23:51] <Muzer> use sudo :p
[23:52] <ajitam> I guess I'll just have to take the data
[23:52] <Muzer> that exists on macs I think
[23:52] <CelticTurnip> OS X is based on the FreeBSD 5 userland, sudo is definitely the right command :)
[23:52] <ajitam> yes it does but disk is mounted just readonly
[23:52] <ajitam> I'll do some more googling...
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