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IRC Log for 2012-12-11

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[0:07] <FliesLikeABrick> lame - even the latest raspbian image doesn't have IPV6
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[0:08] <Dagger2> loaded by default, you mean?
[0:08] <Dagger2> or included at all?
[0:08] <FliesLikeABrick> ah at least this image has the module
[0:08] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah insmod didn't find it when I tried initially, but it loaded with modprobe
[0:08] <FliesLikeABrick> I don't know why they wouldn't enable it by default though
[0:08] <Dagger2> ah, that matches their FAQ at least: http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianFAQ#How_do_I_enable_or_use_IPv6.3F
[0:09] <Dagger2> I suppose they'd probably claim it's because nobody needs it... despite being asked about it enough for it to make their FAQ list
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[0:09] <FliesLikeABrick> not to mention that Debian and every other Linux distro and operating system has it enabled by default
[0:10] <FliesLikeABrick> RPi has made their site IPv6-enabled and the rasbian mirror list specifically indicates IPv6-enabled mirrors as well
[0:11] <FliesLikeABrick> and mirrordirector.raspbian.org returns an AAAA record as well
[0:13] <mdim> is anyone using RPi for bitTorrents? I installed rtorrent, but I can't find any web interfaces in Arch Linux ARM repo
[0:14] <FliesLikeABrick> transmission-daemon may be a better bet
[0:14] <FliesLikeABrick> it is in the RPi repos
[0:14] <Dagger2> "Loading ipv6 consumes 300K of RAM. For the vast majority of users who's ISP does not support ipv6 that is just wasted memory."
[0:14] <FliesLikeABrick> ... 300K, really?
[0:15] <Dagger2> heaven forbid we make it work properly for the people whose ISPs *do* have IPv6
[0:15] <FliesLikeABrick> yeah Dagger2
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[0:15] <Dagger2> ... and heaven forbid we use "whose" and "who is" correctly
[0:16] <Dagger2> ipv6 290227 20
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[0:16] <Dagger2> no idea how accurate that is, but it's like 0.1% of the total memory in exchange for fixing 1% of users
[0:16] <Dagger2> which seems reasonable to me
[0:17] <Dagger2> especially given that the 1% will rise significantly over the time period that these v4-only installs are going to be around for
[0:17] * plugwash notes that is not the only descision the rpf made in the creation of their raspbian images that he disagrees with
[0:17] * GentileBen is now known as GolfClap
[0:18] <Opinie> could someone give me an opinion on a very short tutorial concerning UFW? I just don't really understand what part of the instructions is meant to mean
[0:21] <ParkerR_> Opinie, Shoot
[0:21] <pksato> Uncomplicated Firewall?
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[0:22] <Opinie> ParkerR_: thanks ParkerR_.. here it is: http://log.logfish.net/node/31 what I'm puzzled by is, what is that "quoted" block with the text "samba sharing" is supposed to mean? is that a paste from some file of his or just the rules he has on UFW?
[0:23] <ParkerR_> Opinie, That is just a comment
[0:23] <ParkerR_> Continue running the commands after it
[0:23] <Opinie> ok
[0:24] <Opinie> thanks
[0:24] <ParkerR_> No problem
[0:24] <ParkerR_> Usually when you see # followed by something, it is just a comment to explain what is going on or what the section will be concerning
[0:25] <Opinie> ok
[0:25] <Opinie> generally speaking, is it a good idea to try and allow samba etc. with separate rules on UFW or should I just allow all traffic from LAN?
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[0:26] * plugwash usually allows all traffic from LAN
[0:27] <plugwash> but then I trust the devices on my lan
[0:29] <pksato> firewall to prevent "invasion" from you self. :)
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[0:30] <Opinie> I guess one has to prepare for those Jekyll/Hyde eventualities..
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[0:35] <Opinie> plugwash: did you have to do anything special to get samba working with UFW?
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[0:35] * plugwash hasn't ever used UFW, I preffer to use iptables directly
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[0:36] <plugwash> rather than introducing an unnessacery extra layer of abstraction
[0:36] <Opinie> plugwash: I'm quite intimidated by iptables
[0:36] <Opinie> how long did it take you to master it?
[0:37] <plugwash> hmm, I honestly don't remember i've been using it for so long
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[0:37] <Opinie> ok
[0:37] <mrhobbz> general syntax it's really not difficult, remembering some of the flags can be sometimes
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[0:38] <mrhobbz> it's definitely worth learning if you use linux/unix on a regular basis
[0:38] <Opinie> I do
[0:38] <Opinie> I guess I shall
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[0:50] <TAFB> woot, Pi #2 has arrive :)
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[0:50] <TAFB> now I just need to find a 5v source that can run it
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[0:56] <ParkerR_> TAFB, :D
[0:56] <TAFB> might try overclockin this one
[0:56] <ParkerR_> I have mine at 800
[0:57] <ParkerR_> Don't know why exactly. Think it got set by something XD
[0:57] <mrhobbz> :| i'm still waiting for my 2nd pi and extra goodies i ordered
[0:57] <TAFB> ok, I'll give that a go. Do you have any heatsinks or cooling.
[0:57] <axion> my pi has been stable for 43 day uptime at 1000
[0:57] <TAFB> newark shipped this Pi UPS express next day for $8!
[0:57] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Hasn't gotten terribly hot
[0:57] <mrhobbz> nice tafb
[0:57] <TAFB> axion, I tried 1000 and it corrupted my memory card right away
[0:58] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Ouch
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[0:58] <TAFB> I'm getting good at re-setting up Wheezy
[0:58] <axion> you will be okay as long as you are using a newer firmware that uses the ondemand governor
[0:58] <mrhobbz> i think i read somewhere that overclocking with OS installed to SD card = borked file system
[0:58] <axion> nah...overclocking sd or ram maybe
[0:59] <TAFB> i was using the overclocking thing in raspi-config
[0:59] <axion> all that does is write what it thinks is a good config.txt
[0:59] <axion> i'll post mine
[0:59] <TAFB> k
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[1:00] <axion> http://codepad.org/YWBdKBE9
[1:00] <ParkerR_> Here's mine http://pastebin.com/iFnvVYxC
[1:01] <TAFB> you lowered the temp limit axion :)
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[1:01] <axion> yes, i want it to kick down the clock if it gets too hot
[1:01] <TAFB> ahhh, makes sense
[1:01] <TAFB> I'll give yours a go :)
[1:01] <TAFB> anyone got a pre-compiled quake3 download?
[1:02] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Well if you want to build http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=18853
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[1:02] <TAFB> i saw that
[1:02] <TAFB> didn't look like fun
[1:03] <ParkerR_> Not that gard
[1:03] <ParkerR_> *hard
[1:03] <ParkerR_> To be honest
[1:05] <TAFB> k. config.txt updated, rebooting.
[1:05] <axion> i dont run i also lowered the cpu clock
[1:06] <axion> i mean i lower the default freq from 700 to 500 (but 400 is the lowest i think)
[1:06] <axion> it bumps up to 1000 when needed if temp is right
[1:07] <TAFB> how do you check the temp axion?
[1:07] <axion> initial_turbo is to boot fast...not that i ever boot but yseful
[1:07] <axion> /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[1:07] <TAFB> wow, the Pi booted CRAZY fast
[1:07] <axion> yeah 1000 makes a huge difference
[1:08] <TAFB> fired up X and I could connect in by VNC in like half the time! lol.
[1:08] <axion> also watch /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_volts
[1:08] <TAFB> I ran "/opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp" and it says 49.2 degrees
[1:08] <TAFB> 1.2v
[1:09] <axion> i mean watch is a command
[1:09] <axion> and then do something intensive
[1:10] <TAFB> ohhhhhhh
[1:10] <ParkerR_> No need to type the full path
[1:10] <TAFB> can I have "watch" do both voltage and temp?
[1:10] <ParkerR_> There is a link in /usr/bin
[1:10] <axion> ParkerR_: that is distro dependent
[1:11] <axion> not on mine
[1:11] <ParkerR_> Ahh
[1:11] <ParkerR_> Raspbian ftw :P
[1:11] <axion> purposefully not on mine
[1:11] <axion> i appended the correct PATH element
[1:12] <Opinie> hmm.. well, I fiddled round with UFW like I threatened, but now when I try to connect to my LAN web servers all I get is "Error establishing database connection".. Did UFW just block mysql somehow?
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[1:13] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Also here is the modified build.sh for quake3 http://withg.org/parkerlreed/build.sh
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[1:14] <TAFB> thanks Parker, not sure if I'm ready to tackle a compile yet :)
[1:14] <axion> TAFB: sorry just saw your question...yes watch can do both
[1:14] <TAFB> axion. I have CPU maxed at 100% (no GPU use though), temp is 57.3c and 1.35volts
[1:14] <axion> watch "command1 && command2"
[1:15] <axion> should work
[1:15] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Nothing to be afraid of :)
[1:15] <axion> 1.35v is the highest (with my config)
[1:15] <TAFB> can you ask it what the current clock speed is?
[1:15] <axion> yes...install cpupower or cpufrequtils
[1:16] <TAFB> wow, multitasks so much better now, even when cpu is at 100% :)
[1:16] <axion> or investigate /sys...i'm sure its exposed in there
[1:16] <TAFB> sudo apt-get install cpufrequtils
[1:16] <TAFB> that easy?
[1:16] <axion> yes
[1:16] <ParkerR_> And with cpufrequtils you can do sudo cpugreq-set -c 0 -g performance
[1:16] <ParkerR_> Or powersave
[1:16] <axion> then type cpufreq-info
[1:16] <ParkerR_> *cpufreq-set
[1:17] <ParkerR_> Or any of the other profiles
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[1:18] <TAFB> "current CPU frequency is 1000 MHz."
[1:19] <TAFB> woot
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[1:19] <TAFB> so if I unload it, the frequency will go down?
[1:19] <ParkerR_> 800mhz with nothing else set seems to be working great for me. Haven't had any problems.
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[1:20] <ParkerR_> (Also don't run X so it's pretty much snappy all the time)
[1:20] <TAFB> ok, so in X, full cpu load, cpu is not 58.9c at 1.35v and 1000mhz. Shutting down cpu load...
[1:20] <TAFB> cpu freq = 500mhz
[1:20] <ParkerR_> 58 is pretty warm
[1:21] <TAFB> volt = 1.2v
[1:21] <dipstick> what does it mean if you get direct contunity through an ohm meter between 5v and gnd?
[1:21] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Nice
[1:21] <TAFB> temps is 51c
[1:21] <TAFB> Parker: My Pi is sitting on a pretty warm battery backup unit, probably not helping my temps
[1:21] * azeam is now known as azeam_afk
[1:21] <ParkerR_> parker@raspbian:~$ cputemp
[1:21] <ParkerR_> temp=39.0'C
[1:22] <ParkerR_> Heh
[1:22] <axion> i am typically between 56 and 62 under high load
[1:22] <axion> at 1Ghz
[1:22] <TAFB> nice.
[1:22] <TAFB> speed dropped to 500mhz with no load, is that right?
[1:22] <Opinie> mine is usually 54-56 C at 1 Ghz
[1:22] <ParkerR_> cputemp is just a script I made that calls the vcgenmod.
[1:22] <Opinie> I think I did once get it over 60 when I had web servers running very inefficiently
[1:23] <axion> TAFB: yes if it doesnt need it or it changed faster than the utility is updating
[1:23] <axion> oh no load....yes
[1:23] <TAFB> I closed my load program, and it went from 1000 right to 500 :)
[1:23] <TAFB> sweet.
[1:23] <axion> you can change the min freq
[1:23] <TAFB> Thanks for the config.txt, the one raspi-config made for 1000 totally f'ed everything up
[1:23] <axion> 400 minimum in config.txt
[1:23] <ParkerR_> That's some pretty nifty on demand you got going there :P
[1:23] <axion> i think 400 anyway
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[1:25] <dipstick> I think I accidently fried my pi :(
[1:25] <TAFB> powering GPIO pins again dip?
[1:26] <dipstick> I tried making a simple cable for a temp psu and when I went to plug it in, I heard a pop, then a faint burning smell :(
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[1:26] <TAFB> uh oh
[1:27] <dipstick> nothing physically wrong, just a direct short across the power.
[1:27] <axion> polarity ftw
[1:27] <Opinie> would someone mind checking whether my Pi's UFW is insanely insecure..? there's quite a few rules I accidentally inserted twice etc, but still
[1:27] <TAFB> plug in a regular USB power supply to the micro USB and measure F3 TO D17 voltage, and TP2 to TP3 voltage.
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[1:27] <TAFB> maybe just cooked the poly fuse ;)
[1:27] <dipstick> polarity was right, I'm sure.
[1:27] <dipstick> it wont power up from the micro usb
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[1:27] <TAFB> just measure the voltage when off ;)
[1:28] <dipstick> I plug in, and no lights.
[1:28] <TAFB> measure... the... voltage
[1:28] <dipstick> ok ok'
[1:28] <TAFB> lol
[1:28] <TAFB> the side of F3 and D17 closes to the edge of the board.
[1:28] <blueskies2> hey guys can anyone recommend cheap resister packs i should buy on ebay? for now im look for i think mainly 560 ohs and 27k ohs (but i dont really know much else)
[1:29] <TAFB> no electronics shops near ya? I got a sweet one in toronto called active surplus. I just pick out handfuls of resistors and the guy is like "$2 is fine" :)
[1:29] <blueskies2> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/190X-1-4W-Metal-Film-Resistor-Assort-kit-19-kinds-value-/251075624691?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7545fef3
[1:29] <dipstick> just scared about it now.
[1:29] <blueskies2> lol thats cool
[1:29] <blueskies2> might have a jaycar (im in australia)
[1:29] <blueskies2> but not sure
[1:29] <mrhobbz> pi@raspbmc:~$ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_volts core
[1:29] <mrhobbz> volt=1.20V
[1:29] <blueskies2> and i dont understand alot. what is the watts all about lol
[1:30] <mrhobbz> i'm guessing this probably isn't right
[1:30] <TAFB> 1.20v is normal, higher is for overclockin I think
[1:30] <dipstick> 0.08 across f3 and d17...
[1:30] <mrhobbz> ah
[1:30] <TAFB> 0.08v?
[1:30] <dipstick> ya
[1:30] <TAFB> how about TP2 to TP3?
[1:31] <dipstick> meter set to 20v scale
[1:31] <blueskies2> what do they mean when they say, 1/4W resistors
[1:31] * blkhawk is now known as blkaway
[1:32] <TAFB> blue: I know it has to do with how much power then can absorb before they explode.
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[1:32] <blueskies2> ohh ok cool
[1:32] <blueskies2> so for the pi ther 50w max on the gpio isnt it?
[1:32] <dipstick> where is tp3?
[1:33] <blueskies2> or something like that
[1:33] <TAFB> dip: http://elinux.org/images/d/d1/RPI_Test_Points.JPG
[1:33] <dipstick> oh tp1
[1:33] <TAFB> oh, whops. lol
[1:34] <dipstick> 0.05v
[1:34] <dipstick> :(
[1:35] * Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky
[1:35] <dipstick> gotta replace the fuse don't i?
[1:35] <TAFB> yikes. and you were measuring the side of F3 and D17 that face the edge of the board?
[1:35] <dipstick> ya
[1:35] <TAFB> F3 and D17 are connected on the non-fused side of the supply :(
[1:35] <TAFB> if you're not getting voltage there, something is seriously shorting out
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[1:36] <dipstick> I don't understand how it could have blown in the first place. I'm sure it was all right...
[1:37] <TAFB> is there any way to test the voltage output of your power adapter, with it not plugged into the Pi?
[1:38] <dipstick> it works with my cell phone, the power adaptor...
[1:38] * Datalink|Zzz is now known as Datalink
[1:38] <TAFB> I just wanted to see if the power adapter voltage dropped when you plugged it into the Pi. If it does, you know you have a short.
[1:41] <dipstick> I can attach wires to the 5v and gnd pins of the gpio and plug the power into the microusb...
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[1:41] <dipstick> I found .04 there.
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[1:41] <TAFB> I'm not sure man. Sounds like shorted out voltage regulator if I had to guess.
[1:42] <dipstick> it's gonna be a pain in the arse to fix :(
[1:44] <dipstick> hmm, resistance of 1.1ohms across pins of rg2
[1:44] * Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk
[1:44] <TAFB> lemme check mine with my meter for ya
[1:46] <TAFB> my meter says "too low, out of range" across RG2 :) lol
[1:46] <dipstick> on the highest ohm setting?
[1:46] <TAFB> it's auto ranging :)
[1:46] <dipstick> damn
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[1:47] <TAFB> if i touch my fingers to the end it says 250000ohms, so it's workin :)
[1:48] <TAFB> what's your RG1 resisance?
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[1:48] <dipstick> 1315ohms
[1:49] <dipstick> across the outer leads
[1:49] <TAFB> I got 1310ohms so yep, ish is workin
[1:49] <ryao> Has anyone tried Reiser4 on the Raspberry Pi?
[1:50] <dipstick> 2k ish on the middle and right pins
[1:50] <dipstick> 720ohms on left and middle.
[1:51] <TAFB> i got 708
[1:51] <dipstick> so it'd appear rg2 is shorted...
[1:51] <TAFB> yeah, only way to check RG2 is to desolder and check it off board
[1:51] <TAFB> yesh, looks like that.
[1:52] <dipstick> just desolder one pin right? to break the contact.
[1:52] <TAFB> yep, to get a true test.
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[1:53] <TAFB> dip: http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/690818186/_hot_offer_SE8117T33_LF_3.html
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[1:55] <dipstick> if reg2 is a 3.3v, what is reg1?
[1:55] <TAFB> not sure, all the ones I see are 3.3v
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[1:59] <TAFB> dip: http://elinux.org/RaspberryPi_Boards
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[2:01] <ParkerR_> Heh, love having my Pi headless. Only ethernet and power hooked to it atm.
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[2:02] <TAFB> What's headless parker?
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[2:02] <ParkerR_> TAFB, No monitor. Accessing via SSH
[2:03] <TAFB> ahhh. My Pi is headless too then. Only cable connected to it is MicroUSB for power :) I access by UltraVNC (x11vnc on Pi).
[2:03] <ParkerR_> Heh. Been living without X
[2:04] <SpeedEvil> i've got mine setup for secure token based access, headless
[2:04] <TAFB> I'm a windows guy, X helps me cope.
[2:04] <ParkerR_> Haha
[2:04] <SpeedEvil> - I need to dig up the paper with the password on
[2:04] <ParkerR_> I'm a Windows and linux guy
[2:04] <ParkerR_> I dabble a bit in both
[2:04] <buZz> o
[2:04] <TAFB> you double dipper!
[2:05] <buZz> i'm just insane :) and thought a raspi would make a nice desktop system ;)
[2:05] <ParkerR_> Been using linux since about 2007 and Windows since about 98
[2:05] <ParkerR_> *1998
[2:05] <dipstick> looks like my pi is on the last table of that page...
[2:05] <ParkerR_> buZz, Haha
[2:05] <buZz> ;)
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[2:05] <buZz> running a current webbrowser on a raspi is really a stretch
[2:06] <ParkerR_> I can do netsurf in framebuffer
[2:06] <SpeedEvil> lynx-current
[2:06] <ParkerR_> But no javascript support
[2:06] <TAFB> dip: the Pi I just got isn't even on that table, voltage regular 1238 ethernet code 1235 :)
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[2:06] <buZz> yeah so nothing 'proper'
[2:06] <ParkerR_> http://withg.org/parkerlreed/netsurf.png
[2:06] <ParkerR_> Close-ish to proper
[2:06] <buZz> true
[2:07] <dipstick> bs1238 mine is
[2:07] <blueskies2> hi, is 1/4 W resistors good enough for pi projects?
[2:07] <SpeedEvil> it's getting harder to put up with the browser speed given my other device is a nexus seven
[2:07] <SpeedEvil> blueskies2: maybe
[2:07] <TAFB> dip: what's the bottom line of numbers on your RG2?
[2:07] <bin_bash> I wish this client would let me turn off highlights on specific networks
[2:07] <plugwash> blueskies2, depends on what those "projects" consist of
[2:07] <buZz> i still like the formfactor for a desktop
[2:07] <blueskies2> speedevil:can you explain how to check?
[2:08] <buZz> and i used to play around with an igepv2
[2:08] <buZz> so now i have a cubieboard coming :)
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[2:08] <dipstick> TAFB, 1238-lf
[2:09] <TAFB> nice. that's the newest board out :)
[2:09] <SpeedEvil> blueskies2: for 5 volt circuits, you are safe with 1/4 watt down to 100 ohms
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[2:09] <buZz> TAFB: nah there are newer
[2:09] <buZz> TAFB: what about the udroid boards
[2:09] <dipstick> and I killed it in a week
[2:09] <SpeedEvil> blueskies2: as at that voltage, the current of 5v/1/4w =50mA will flow
[2:10] <buZz> http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G135341370451&tab_idx=1
[2:10] <plugwash> from your circuit design you should be able to work out the voltage across the resistor and the current through it (of course if you know one of those and the resistance of the resistor you can work out the other) then multiply voltage by current to get power dissipated
[2:10] <SpeedEvil> and dissipate 5v*50ma = 250mW = 1/4W
[2:10] <buZz> TAFB: quadcore 1.7ghz, 2gb ram, 89 usd :)
[2:11] <TAFB> dip: order up a new voltage regulator and see what else is fried when you replace it :)
[2:11] <SpeedEvil> power = current (in amps) squared times R
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[2:11] <TAFB> i meant as var as Pi revisions go, he's got the newest.
[2:11] <blueskies2> man, i feel dumb i dont really understand. i understand 5v and the max 50ma haha
[2:11] <SpeedEvil> blueskies2: :-)
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[2:11] <buZz> keep playing around, you will learn in time ;)
[2:11] <blueskies2> ok thanks guys
[2:12] <SpeedEvil> blueskies2: ##electronics has a couple of ebooks in the topic.
[2:12] <SpeedEvil> otherwise, I'd recommend:
[2:12] <blueskies2> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/06/control-led-using-gpio-output-pin/ this is my first one, im assuming if i buy 1/4 watt resitors i will be fine
[2:12] <dipstick> yup, gonna be fun replacing this sucker.
[2:12] <TAFB> for sure. make sure you take pics and let us know if it lives after
[2:12] <dipstick> what's the best way to desolder smd?
[2:12] <TAFB> i'm trying berryboot on my Pi i just got
[2:13] <SpeedEvil> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Daewoo-KOR8A0R-Touch-Control-Microwave/dp/B000TZDUB2/ref=pd_ys_ir_la_fb_1
[2:13] <SpeedEvil> err
[2:13] <SpeedEvil> no
[2:13] <blueskies2> its ok speed, these ebooks look alright :)
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[2:14] <SpeedEvil> http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Art-Electronics-Paul-Horowitz/dp/0521370957/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355188433&sr=8-1
[2:14] <blueskies2> just a slow learning process i bet
[2:16] <SpeedEvil> also, lurk in ##electronics
[2:16] <buZz> In addition to running on the Raspberry Pi, Berryboot also supports Android tablets, TV sticks and boards that have an Allwinner A10 processor.
[2:16] <buZz> ^^^ are they saying _all_ allwinner a10 devices??
[2:16] * SpeedEvil pimps his channel. and join ##mechanics too!
[2:16] <blueskies2> will do i think, any recommended leds to buy from ebay?
[2:16] <SpeedEvil> petticoat
[2:17] <SpeedEvil> probably not
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[2:17] <dipstick> my camera is terrible for taking close ups of electronics.
[2:17] <TAFB> i get my LED's from Aliexpress. If you're not looking for the most retarded ultra bright ones you can probably find them elsewhere :)
[2:17] <TAFB> I like 7 watt LED's :)
[2:18] <buZz> whoa, they _are_ saying that O_o
[2:18] <buZz> >> The app automatically copies script.bin and the u-boot SPL memory settings from the device to the SD card.
[2:18] <buZz> Meaning it can also be used on other Allwinner A10 devices, tablets and Android TV sticks.
[2:18] <buZz> insane!
[2:18] <SpeedEvil> blueskies2: http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=400358190869&index=22&nav=SEARCH&nid=55372927076
[2:18] <SpeedEvil> for example
[2:19] <TAFB> 7watt LED: http://ecuflashking.com/r1/2012-07-06-New_LED_running_lights/IMG-20120705-00057.jpg
[2:19] <SpeedEvil> wattage is a stupid measure of LEDs
[2:19] <SpeedEvil> you can get 'white' LEDs that have 1/8th the efficiency of the best ones
[2:20] <TAFB> ohhh need, download all updates for the Pi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[2:21] <blueskies2> thanks speed :)
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[2:21] <SpeedEvil> blueskies2: note - hong Kong
[2:21] <dipstick> 8 pics, all blurry :/
[2:21] <SpeedEvil> this is if you're OK with them arriving in January
[2:21] <TAFB> which pics?
[2:21] <dipstick> of the pi
[2:21] <TAFB> did you take them?
[2:21] <dipstick> my pi
[2:21] <TAFB> ahhh
[2:22] <TAFB> I have non-blurry pics if you'd like
[2:22] <blueskies2> yeh, all good. i would like them now but it cant always be helped lol
[2:22] <dipstick> camera takes terrible close ups. like less than a foot from it.
[2:22] <TAFB> you need Samsung Galaxy S3, camera on that thing rocks :)
[2:23] <dipstick> it can't even get a good pic of my case lighting.
[2:23] <TAFB> especially for up close
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[2:24] <blueskies2> how do i target someone when speaking?
[2:24] <blueskies2> @speedevil test lol
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[2:25] <blueskies2> :speedevil test again
[2:25] <dipstick> just nick, no addional chars
[2:25] <dipstick> blueskies2, poke
[2:25] * TAFB kicks *blueskies2* in the dingleberry's
[2:25] <blueskies2> lol
[2:26] <blueskies2> dipstick like this
[2:26] <dipstick> yar
[2:26] <TAFB> naaa, dipstick: like this
[2:26] <TAFB> i like it like that
[2:26] <blueskies2> haah
[2:26] <dipstick> :P
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[2:26] <blueskies2> blueskies2 wonder if it works to myself lol
[2:26] <blueskies2> nope
[2:27] <TAFB> it works
[2:27] <dipstick> it doesn't matter really. I never type your full nick anyways. I use tab-complete.
[2:27] <TAFB> it just posts it in here
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[2:27] <TAFB> doesn't send a private message or anything
[2:27] <blueskies2> blueskies2: i see!
[2:27] <TAFB> nice
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[2:27] <blueskies2> TAFB: Does it only appear red for other people though?
[2:28] <TAFB> no idea, all my ish is black
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[2:28] <dipstick> can't decide if I should lift a lead of reg2...
[2:28] <blueskies2> TAFB: oo dif clients
[2:28] <TAFB> mirc for me
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[2:28] <TAFB> dip: I'd wait till you get the replacement. you know it's cooked ;)
[2:28] <blueskies2> TAFB: mirc is good, im using web client on backtrack computer atm
[2:29] <TAFB> ahhh
[2:29] <dipstick> hmm, so that place you linked is the only place that has it?
[2:29] <TAFB> A google search turned up like 4 results, and all the rest said minimum order 1000 pieces.
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[2:30] <TAFB> I found a place that had it for $.59, but shipping was $58.00
[2:30] <dipstick> O.O
[2:30] <TAFB> O.o
[2:30] <blueskies2> SpeedEvil: connecting led without resistors will only damage leds?
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[2:30] <dipstick> blueskies2, depends on input voltage.
[2:31] <SpeedEvil> LEDs and possibly the pi, if you connect them directly
[2:31] <blueskies2> dam
[2:31] <blueskies2> lol
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[2:31] <TAFB> don't cook your poor LED's. if they ain't 5v ones, use resistors ;)
[2:31] <axion> zxhows that fast pi going, TAFB?
[2:31] <blueskies2> would this work anyways, +3.3v > led > ground
[2:32] <TAFB> it's a TANK!
[2:32] <axion> nice
[2:32] <TAFB> ax: I'm running sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
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[2:32] <TAFB> and it's just RIPPING through the updates
[2:32] <TAFB> can't believe the performance
[2:32] <axion> yeah when cpu isnt the bottleneck a good sd card performs great
[2:33] <TAFB> i got a "fast" SD card, but aparently it's only fast on sequential writes? :(
[2:33] <axion> but even better would be keeping only boot on sd and using a fast ssd/hdd
[2:33] <axion> i currently use that setup with a 32gb ssd as my rootfs and swap, and it flies
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[2:33] <TAFB> nice
[2:33] <axion> yes, what class is it?
[2:33] <blueskies2> 120gb are like less then $100 now how good is that
[2:34] <TAFB> my card? class 10. http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi.jpg
[2:34] <TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/patriot%2032gb%20class%2010%20SD%20card%20test.png
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[2:35] <axion> TAFB: yeah, it was rated to achieve 10+mB/s for sequential
[2:35] <axion> a rootfs is far from sequential :)
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[2:36] <TAFB> yeah, but the rootfs is more like the 4k random writes for the SD card, and mine preformes pretty poor compared to others out there
[2:36] <TAFB> but for seq write mine smokes them all
[2:36] <axion> nice
[2:36] <dipstick> so my question is, how'd I even manage to break my pi in the first place. I applied power to the same usb port as last time. injecting power from the same psu...
[2:37] <TAFB> dip: to do that kinda damage it musta been reverse voltage, or +12v
[2:38] <dipstick> must have been reversed, 12v wasn't connected.
[2:38] <john_f> TAFB: was that card advertised as 90MB/s?
[2:38] <john_f> or just class 10
[2:38] <TAFB> that's the only thing I can think of. Another user on Pi forums reversed his, was using a 30amp power supply :(
[2:38] <dipstick> what it do to it?
[2:39] <TAFB> not sure, he trashed it and bought a new one.
[2:39] <TAFB> John: Advertised as 50mb read, 35mb write, UHS-I ultra high speed flash. http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=11_175_176&item_id=048402
[2:39] <dipstick> I sure hope my reg is the only bad part.
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[2:40] <TAFB> with it almost a dead short like that, it might have protected the components
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[2:40] <dipstick> "might" being the operative word.
[2:40] <john_f> TAFB: thanks, I saw some saying they did 90 but higher price/GB
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[2:40] <TAFB> they do 90 read all day long :)
[2:41] <TAFB> in my USB 3.0 card reader on my PC: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/patriot%2032gb%20class%2010%20SD%20card%20test.png
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[2:41] <john_f> "Performance: Up to 95 MB/s (633X) read speed; write speed up to 90 MB/s (600X)"
[2:42] <john_f> SanDisk Extreme Pro
[2:42] <TAFB> wow, nice specs.
[2:42] <ackthet> your rpi will max that shit out
[2:42] <john_f> costs more then than the pi :)
[2:42] <ackthet> oh darn it
[2:42] * ackthet swears again
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[2:42] <ackthet> s/****/poop/g
[2:42] <TAFB> my card cost $5 less than my pi
[2:42] <TAFB> my case cost twice what my Pi did
[2:43] <ackthet> TAFB: i think you may have missed the point of the pi
[2:43] <TAFB> lol
[2:43] <TAFB> ackthet. It's going to save me $100/mo on electricity, I can afford to splurge on accessories for it.
[2:43] <ackthet> um
[2:43] <ackthet> what were you running thats saving 100/mo?
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[2:44] <ackthet> 1 watt is approximatly 1 dollar per year
[2:44] <ackthet> so...
[2:44] <TAFB> four servers at over 800 watts each :)
[2:44] <ackthet> you replaced an 800 watt server with an rpi?
[2:44] <ackthet> wat
[2:44] <blueskies2> the pi is going to save you four servers of work?
[2:44] <TAFB> I replaced four with the Pi :)
[2:45] <TAFB> webservers, e-mail servers, ftp, live weather capture, etc.
[2:45] <ackthet> your must be mental or something
[2:45] <blueskies2> haha virtualization
[2:45] <ackthet> what 800W servers did you have?
[2:45] <ackthet> something from the 12th century?
[2:45] <TAFB> they were big :)
[2:45] <ackthet> im waiting for a model number
[2:45] <blueskies2> TAFB: why didnt you have one server and virtualize the other 3?
[2:45] <ackthet> big == meaningless
[2:46] <TAFB> I could have, just never put the time into it. Customer would give me a server all set up, I'd just host it here.
[2:46] <ackthet> TAFB
[2:46] <ackthet> wat r u doing
[2:47] <ackthet> what 800 watt server were you running
[2:47] <TAFB> just web, e-mail, ftp, some goofy live weather stuff, doing some video streaming but not on the Pi probably.
[2:47] <ackthet> dood
[2:47] <TAFB> hp proliant
[2:47] <ackthet> thats not a kind of server
[2:47] <ackthet> ah
[2:47] <ackthet> so a pi can do what 4x hp proliants does?
[2:47] <TAFB> You going to make me go downstairs and check the model, lol.
[2:47] <ackthet> no
[2:47] <blueskies2> dual powersupplies?
[2:47] <ackthet> thats enough
[2:47] <TAFB> they have 1200watt supplies in them, battery backups measured around 800watt draw for each.
[2:48] <TAFB> blue: Yeah, dual 1200's
[2:48] <ackthet> you realize low power servers are a thing
[2:48] <blueskies2> TAFB: ahh i see
[2:48] <ackthet> and they are better than the pi in all ways
[2:48] <TAFB> but a complete waste for what they were doing
[2:48] <blueskies2> ackthet: all he needs to do is keep one and virtualise the rest
[2:48] <TAFB> they are so loud, run so hot, retarded.
[2:49] <dipstick> next time, I'ma feed power to the gpio pins... got me a molex to 2pin header connector cable made up. it's about 6 inches long :P
[2:49] <blueskies2> TAFB: i agree they are a pain if your running in the house
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[2:49] <ackthet> TAFB: can i have them?
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[2:50] <dipstick> I'd take a server... :D
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[2:50] <blueskies2> any of you in australia?
[2:50] <dipstick> replace my celeron powered home server, maybe...
[2:50] <dipstick> not i
[2:51] <blueskies2> i just have a few servers thinking i might get rid of a few
[2:51] <blueskies2> nasty celeron
[2:51] <dipstick> I'd take one if it was free >:}
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[2:52] <TAFB> i built a special room for the servers, double thick walls with Rocksol (sp?), kept them quiet but they'd run so hot. Had problems with some of the raid drives failing.
[2:52] <ackthet> guys go buy a C-60 or something
[2:52] <ackthet> its like 1000x the power of the pi and is x86 with virt extentions
[2:52] <TAFB> I bought a Drobo and have that hooked up to the Pi for raid storage, works sweet now :) super silent
[2:52] <ackthet> and is like 80 bucks
[2:52] <dipstick> a what
[2:52] <ackthet> you have a raid... hooked to your pi
[2:52] <TAFB> yep
[2:52] <TAFB> data has to be safe
[2:52] <ackthet> what kind of disk IO do you get? 30 kb/s?
[2:52] <dipstick> c-60? the google netbook?
[2:52] <TAFB> I think 28mb, but I measured with FTP.
[2:53] <ackthet> dipstick: you can buy just the board
[2:53] <ackthet> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131843
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[2:53] <ackthet> 6x sata ports too
[2:53] * dipstick barfs on amd
[2:53] <ackthet> APU > atom
[2:54] <dipstick> if I had 80 bucks, I'd buy a hdd.
[2:54] <dipstick> I need a couple 3tb drives for video.
[2:54] <ackthet> ah the porn collection inflation?
[2:54] <dipstick> tv, lots and lots of tv
[2:54] <dipstick> action, comedy, sitcoms, etc
[2:55] <TAFB> Store here had external 3TB's on for $99! I snatched up a few, they are regular SATA 3 inside :)
[2:55] <blueskies2> whats the bet you havent seen all of your tv shows
[2:56] <dipstick> I'm working on seeing all of them, I watch 2 or 3 series at once but not simutaniously.
[2:56] <TAFB> lol. I run RSS feed in Utorrent, it downloads 8TB of shows a month, for sure I have not seen them all
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[2:56] <dipstick> I have about 5 or 6 that need to be seen.
[2:56] <blueskies2> TAFB: whats your rss feed
[2:56] <TAFB> racingfor.me
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[2:57] <dipstick> I need one and my sisters need one. they love anime.
[2:57] <TAFB> it's for MotoGP, F1, Nascar, etc. All events are downloaded automatically to my computer in 720p/1080p, etc.
[2:58] <blueskies2> nice
[2:58] <dipstick> I want a drobo or something with 10tb or more but no monies :(
[2:58] <TAFB> i need to filter it though, because it downloads all languages, russian, spanish, etc.
[2:58] <blueskies2> yeh
[2:58] <blueskies2> lol
[2:58] <blueskies2> i cant get it to load for me
[2:58] <TAFB> problem is, for english, nobody puts english, they just put nothing.
[2:58] <TAFB> http://www.racingfor.me?
[2:59] <TAFB> loads for me
[2:59] <dipstick> you a mega racing fan?
[2:59] <dipstick> lawl, invalid cert
[2:59] <TAFB> i race my motorcycle in amateur races, so I like MotoGP and stuff
[2:59] <TAFB> F1/indy is good, nascar is so/so.
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[3:00] <TAFB> I have a tony stuart/home depot racing jacket: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/videos/9thEESA/mov00a.jpg
[3:00] <dipstick> you suck, needs invite code.
[3:00] <TAFB> sure does dip ;)
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[3:01] <TAFB> you have to share/seed like a mofo too otherwise perma ban :( I had to get another internet connection just for seeding! http://www.speedtest.net/result/1747705636.png
[3:01] <dipstick> I hate you now.
[3:02] <dipstick> all I have is 6mbit to home and a seedbox on a gigabit network with 300gb to work with.
[3:02] <TAFB> yikes! check out my "downloading" connection: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2363747231.png
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[3:03] <TAFB> my connection is faster than 87% of my country! WOOT!
[3:03] <dipstick> I want to move to a google fiber powered area in the US...
[3:03] <TAFB> Move to Wilson, NC!
[3:03] <TAFB> http://www.greenlightnc.com/about/internet/
[3:03] <TAFB> unlimited bandwidth, no blocked ports or throttled torrents, etc.
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[3:04] <dipstick> meh, google = gbit fiber to home for ~$100
[3:04] <TAFB> what's the up/down speed?
[3:04] <TAFB> That's 100mbit down and 100MBIT UPLOAD for like $150 :)
[3:04] <dipstick> full gbit both ways
[3:04] <TAFB> dirty
[3:05] <dipstick> hours of hd porn in minutes. :P
[3:05] <dipstick> https://fiber.google.com/about/
[3:06] <dipstick> just need to move to kansas city
[3:06] <dipstick> it may take then 10 years to get down here.
[3:06] <TAFB> wow, looks good :)
[3:08] <dipstick> I want it sooooo bad, just so I can say, fu dsl and cable.
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[3:08] <dipstick> and enjoy 1080p streaming with no lag
[3:08] <TAFB> the 8mb upload is DSL, then 90mb download is cable.
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[3:09] <dipstick> yeah, suddenlink is the closest I can get to cable and they are dicks. we are right in the middle of two subdivisions and we get the virtual bird.
[3:09] <TAFB> that sucks
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[3:11] <TAFB> you should make a deal with someone in the subdivision and get them to sign up with an internet account for their "basement apartment", then just set up an access point at their place and yours = super awesome internet for you! The bill can just come off your credit card
[3:11] <dipstick> at&t is flat out milkin us for monies. download is so-so but upload is omg terrible. took about two weeks to upload 10gb of music to google
[3:12] <dipstick> lol
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[3:12] <TAFB> I did that for my friend, he was 6km outside the service area for cable and DSL, we made a deal with his friend in the subdivision and ran some high power outdoor AP's and he's getting full speed, 100mbps download and 15mbps upload, no loss and he's 8.5km away from his friends house :)
[3:13] <TAFB> we're using two of these: http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1056_356&item_id=045323
[3:14] <dipstick> holy crap
[3:14] <dipstick> 95 bucks for one?
[3:15] <TAFB> yep :)
[3:15] <TAFB> they'll go about 20km at full speed, 30km if you bump em down
[3:15] <dipstick> well, if only we knew one of our neighbors. :P
[3:15] <TAFB> time to go door knockin :)
[3:15] <TAFB> "would you like free internet? we can share"
[3:16] <TAFB> find a house with no kids ;)
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[3:16] <dipstick> lol
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[3:16] <dipstick> why no kids?
[3:16] <TAFB> cause they'll download 10 torrents at the same time and flood your internet connection
[3:17] <TAFB> you want some old people that just surf and e-mail, then you keep the speed for yourself.
[3:17] <dipstick> lol
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[3:18] <snowhite> I am using an 8GB SD card with Fedora Remix R2 and initial installation went fine but upon reboot it gets stuck
[3:18] <snowhite> one error is "-84 whilst initialising SD Card"
[3:18] <TAFB> don't like wheezy sno?
[3:19] <snowhite> there are multiple other regarding journal as well
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[3:19] <TAFB> what brand SD card?
[3:19] <snowhite> hmmm....I think sandisk
[3:20] <TAFB> class 10?
[3:20] <snowhite> I have Sandisk 2GB but the image doesn't fit on it - why is that?
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[3:20] <dipstick> well, thanks for the help and advice. I'm go play with something else. ttyl
[3:21] <snowhite> TAFB - my bad ; it's a Verbatim
[3:21] <TAFB> have fun, be safe
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[3:21] <snowhite> could that be the issue?
[3:22] <TAFB> I'm trying to look it up on the compatbility list
[3:22] <snowhite> 8GB Verbatim SD HC
[3:23] <TAFB> is there a model number on your card, 43961?
[3:23] <TAFB> you said it's class 10 right?
[3:23] <snowhite> hmm let me see in light
[3:24] <TAFB> it should say like SDHC (4) or whatever for the class
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[3:24] <snowhite> SD HC 2
[3:24] <snowhite> and nothing else
[3:24] <snowhite> on the back there is a long alpha digit which I think is only serial number
[3:24] <snowhite> I am not sure about class
[3:24] <TAFB> not on the compatibility list, needs to be SD HC 10. That doesn't meant it WON'T work, just nobody's tested it.
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[3:25] <TAFB> if it was 16gb it can be SD HC 4
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[3:25] <cyclick> rpi doesnt follow sdhc standard?
[3:25] <TAFB> it does, but the controll has a lot of issues with tons of cards.
[3:25] <snowhite> TAFB - is there anyway I can squeez the image on a 2GB card?
[3:26] <TAFB> sno: try the wheezy image from http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads and see if that'll boot properly.
[3:26] <TAFB> i think you need 4gb minimum no?
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[3:26] <TAFB> Oh, it says wheezy will work on 2gb
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[3:27] <blueskies2> so if i want to get +3.3v do i set GPIO.setup(11, GPIO.OUT)
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[3:29] <TAFB> I've pulled 3.3v right from the regulator RG2, but I'm sure that's not the right way to do it ;)
[3:29] <snowhite> Wheezy can fit on 2GB
[3:29] <snowhite> so does Archlinux
[3:29] <TAFB> so says the download page
[3:29] <snowhite> I dont' know why FedoraRemix is so bloated
[3:29] <TAFB> I've got berryboot on a 1gb SD now, going to try and boot it momentarily
[3:30] <snowhite> would it be possible to get FedoraRemix without the GUI?
[3:30] <blueskies2> TAFB: i just basicly want to turn on then off a led
[3:30] <snowhite> I need to stick to a redhat distro
[3:30] <snowhite> for packages
[3:30] <TAFB> ahhh. you can't switch RG2 blue
[3:31] <TAFB> blue: http://www.maplin.co.uk/5mm-5v-leds-35775
[3:31] <TAFB> 5v led's :)
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[3:32] <blueskies2> what do i do if i want to use the 5v leds? do i need a transitor??
[3:32] <snowhite> TAFB - which compatibility list did you look into? is there a fedora remix specific or raspberry pi specific one?
[3:32] <TAFB> you can direct wire them, 5v is the default GPIO output
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[3:32] <TAFB> sno: http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#SD_cards
[3:33] <TAFB> it's a problem with the Pi and it's SD chipset, not related to the flavour of linux
[3:33] <blueskies2> quick example for me, pin 11 to ground? if so what do i set to get it to turn on
[3:33] <TAFB> you got me blue, never messed with GPIO except for back feeding power to the Pi
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[3:33] <blueskies2> TAFB: ohh ok thanks anyways
[3:34] <TAFB> http://priyank.in/2012/09/raspberry-pi-led-blinking-and-gpio-demo-using-python/
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[3:34] <snowhite> TAFB ; thanks
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[3:36] <snowhite> I have another question; I am going to pick my first bread board tomorrow
[3:36] <snowhite> I want to run few LEDs and also a servo of RPi
[3:36] <snowhite> what else should I buy? resistors? arrays?
[3:38] <TAFB> not sure, I haven't done any control projects on the Pi. look at the robot control demo's with servo motors, that should give you an idea.
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[3:40] <snowhite> can you please hook me up with the link
[3:41] <TAFB> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/34/how-can-i-control-an-rc-servo
[3:41] <snowhite> TAFB - thanks
[3:41] <TAFB> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=3072
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[3:45] <snowhite> everything points to Arduino
[3:45] <snowhite> for servos and motors
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[3:54] <Grievre> snowhite: you could use an arduino. You could also use an ATMega on its own since your raspberry pi has SPI and I2C outputs
[3:54] <snowhite> I would like to stay away from a full Arduino board if possible
[3:55] <snowhite> Grievre - what does it take to program the ATMega?
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[3:58] <Grievre> snowhite: an AVR programmer. You can still use the arduino software to write the code I believe
[3:58] <snowhite> but I can't use the Raspberry software to write to it?
[3:58] <blueskies2> anyone know where to find new v2 gpio pins list
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[3:59] <Grievre> snowhite: to program it or to use it?
[3:59] <TAFB> bs2: is this one out of date? http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals
[3:59] <snowhite> to program it to use it :-)
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[4:00] <blueskies2> TAFB: yeh
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[4:00] <TAFB> dunno then, sry.
[4:00] <blueskies2> TAFB: they mention the changes
[4:00] <blueskies2> ok thanks anyways TAFB
[4:01] <Grievre> snowhite: well I mean I'm pretty sure the Arduino software and the avr tools can be compiled for the pi, so you could probably program on the Pi itself
[4:02] <Grievre> snowhite: But I think programming the AVR requires higher voltages than the Pi has on its pins, so you'll probably still want the AVR programmer to load the code into the AVR
[4:02] <snowhite> I see
[4:02] <snowhite> I think it's best if I stick to Arduino
[4:02] <snowhite> I am also not decided on which type of Arduino as there are way too many of them out there
[4:03] <bin_bash> hello!
[4:03] <blueskies2> hey
[4:03] <bin_bash> how are you, friends.
[4:04] <blueskies2> good u
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[4:05] <bin_bash> good. just watching tv
[4:05] <snowhite> could something like this work with RPi: http://dx.com/p/l293d-motor-driver-expansion-board-motor-control-shield-blue-172881
[4:05] <blueskies2> whats on tv
[4:06] <Grievre> snowhite: it depends on what it wants from the arduino
[4:06] <snowhite> no, I mean connecting this directly to RPi ; is there a motor shield for RPi
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[4:10] <Grievre> snowhite: that's what I meant, you might be able to use that code with the Pi, depending on how the shield tries to communicate with an arduino
[4:11] <Grievre> snowhite: if it only needs SPI or I2C for example, you're golden
[4:11] <Grievre> snowhite: er that shield, not that code
[4:11] <snowhite> ok ; got you; tnx
[4:12] <Grievre> snowhite: ah no, it looks like it wants the PWM pins
[4:12] <snowhite> I thought RPi has two PWM pins
[4:13] <Grievre> oh does it?
[4:13] <Grievre> hm, that shield wants three though
[4:13] <TAFB> ver 2 has ONE pwm pin, previous gen had two
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[4:14] <Grievre> The RPi's CPU is single-core right?
[4:14] <AceDecade> hey guys, having a problem with my rpi disconnecting a few minutes after booting
[4:15] <AceDecade> anyone else experiencing this?
[4:15] <SpeedEvil> Grievre: sort of
[4:15] <TAFB> Ace: define "disconnecting"
[4:15] <SpeedEvil> Grievre: the user acessible core is single core
[4:15] <AceDecade> it becomes unresponsive to my android remote or browser controls
[4:15] <AceDecade> if streaming it will suddenly stop loading
[4:16] <TAFB> if it does it only under heavy network load there is a fix for it
[4:16] <AceDecade> its legitimately every time i plug it in
[4:16] <AceDecade> it'll work, i can log in to browser controls
[4:16] <AceDecade> then it'll just stop
[4:16] <TAFB> hmm. I had two bad Pi's, that anywhere from 4 mins to 30 mins it would lose network and USB but still continue to run :(
[4:17] <Grievre> SpeedEvil: hm
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[4:17] <TAFB> Ace: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=20657
[4:17] <spaceace85> hi all
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[4:17] <TAFB> hi space
[4:17] <spaceace85> Eagerly awaiting my first rasp-pi in the mail :)
[4:18] <TAFB> congrats!
[4:18] <AceDecade> TAFB: the screen stays on, if it's a local file it keeps playing
[4:18] <TAFB> going to run Wheezy on it?
[4:18] <spaceace85> certainly am
[4:18] <TAFB> nice
[4:18] <TAFB> what USB power supply you got for it?
[4:18] <TAFB> Ace: You can try the network fix, one sec for link.
[4:19] <AceDecade> its a wall outlet to usb, then usb to micro
[4:19] <AceDecade> 5.1V, 850 mA though
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[4:20] <AceDecade> and TP1 - TP2 usually hovers around 4.83V
[4:20] <TAFB> 850ma is the bare minimum I would run. Better have a thick micro USB cable!
[4:20] <TAFB> Do you have a volt meter handy?
[4:20] <AceDecade> yeah
[4:21] <TAFB> can you check voltage of F3 to D17 the sides of the chips facing the edge of the board plz
[4:22] <AceDecade> sorry where are those
[4:22] <TAFB> on the bottom of the board, right after the micro usb connector
[4:22] <TAFB> green chip and black chip
[4:23] <TAFB> http://i.stack.imgur.com/eU2tt.jpg
[4:23] <TAFB> the wires are going to them in the top left
[4:23] <AceDecade> currently 4.99
[4:24] <AceDecade> should i try streaming something?
[4:24] <TAFB> wow, that's a lot of loss over F3, 4.99 down to 4.83. If your Pi hits 4.8v your USB and/or ethernet will drop out.
[4:24] <TAFB> What do you have plugged into the usb
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[4:24] <AceDecade> presently, nothing
[4:25] <AceDecade> lemme see if it drops to 4.83 regularly
[4:25] <AceDecade> havent tested since i had raspbian
[4:25] <AceDecade> switched to*
[4:25] <TAFB> hmmmm, that's a lot of loss for having no load plugged into the USB port.
[4:25] <echelon> what's the best way to tighten a loose power connector.. aluminum?
[4:25] <AceDecade> yeah 4.80
[4:25] <TAFB> ech: on your Pi? if you have a spare USB jack on your pi, back power it.
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[4:26] <TAFB> Ace: not good :( it could be because your power supply needs to be 1000ma, skinny micro USB cable or a problem with the polyfuse F3.
[4:26] <TAFB> you can solder a wire from one side of F3 to the other side of F3 and it will boost the voltage.
[4:26] <AceDecade> i'm gonna try buying a 1A power supply first
[4:26] <AceDecade> if not, i'll try that
[4:27] <TAFB> good plan. My 1a power supply didn't power it, I had to get a 2amp but then I found out my micro usb cable was tiny/crappy. With a nice thick one, even my 1amp supply works.
[4:27] <AceDecade> last couple nights i was able to watch videos off usb though
[4:27] <AceDecade> and control via android remote
[4:27] <AceDecade> so the ethernet wasnt dropping
[4:28] <TAFB> like I said, your power supply is right on the limit, it'd be flakey like that.
[4:28] <AceDecade> alright, i'll pick up a better power supply
[4:28] <AceDecade> but not tonight, my last final's tomorrow
[4:28] <AceDecade> really i only came hear for some peace of mind so i can go back to studying, thanks =)
[4:29] <TAFB> no probs
[4:29] <TAFB> hold on one sec while I find you the network fix for the pi
[4:29] <TAFB> so you can try that too
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[4:29] <AceDecade> ohman, there goes my productivity
[4:29] <TAFB> Ace: http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Crashes_occur_with_high_network_load
[4:30] <AceDecade> think my teacher will accept "i fixed my raspberry pi" in lieu of correct answers? =)
[4:30] <TAFB> I used 32768 instead of 8192 for my torrents and my Pi stopped crashing :)
[4:30] <TAFB> they might look at you strange
[4:30] <AceDecade> hmm
[4:30] <AceDecade> it IS a networking class...
[4:30] <TAFB> nice
[4:31] <AceDecade> youd think i'd be able to fix this
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[4:31] <axion> which version of the ARM fpu hardware does the pi's cpu have?
[4:31] <AceDecade> alright i'll try this if i get bored studying, thanks!
[4:32] <TAFB> bring your Pi to class, power it from this flashlight (puts out 2amps), have to figure out something for a display: http://kaidomain.com/product/details.S020383
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[4:33] <AceDecade> i think that's how finals work, right?
[4:33] <cuzzo> For Debian's RPi spin of Wheezy, where do I find boot.rc? There is nothing in /boot. I've read that's where I should find it.
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[4:35] <blueskies2> say gpio 17 is 3.3v isnt it?
[4:35] <TAFB> bs2: looks like it, got a volt meter?
[4:36] <blueskies2> TAFB: na dont have it here unfortantly
[4:36] <blueskies2> TAFB: :) got my first circuit working
[4:36] <TAFB> woot!
[4:36] <TAFB> on/off circuit!
[4:36] <blueskies2> yep lol
[4:37] <TAFB> sweeeeeet
[4:37] <TAFB> what's it control?
[4:37] <Grievre> Does the RPi's cpu have software-adjustable clock speed?
[4:37] <blueskies2> coldplay braclet lol
[4:37] <blueskies2> Grievre: i believe so
[4:37] <TAFB> Grievre: in config.txt you can specify clock speed
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[4:38] <TAFB> I have mine auto overclock itself when it needs it, to 1ghz :)
[4:38] <Grievre> ah
[4:38] <blueskies2> TAFB: run hot at 1ghz
[4:38] <blueskies2> ?
[4:38] <TAFB> under 60 degrees
[4:38] <blueskies2> ive got mine at 850 no prob
[4:38] <TAFB> I have it set that if it gets to 70 it bumps the speed down
[4:38] <blueskies2> how can i check the temp?
[4:38] <TAFB> super easy
[4:39] <TAFB> run this in terminal: watch /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[4:39] <axion> can anyone using a hardfloat distro besides Arch, report their target triplet please?
[4:39] <blueskies2> thanks
[4:39] <blueskies2> 44.4c :)
[4:39] <TAFB> nice
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[4:40] <TAFB> leave that open and work it hard and watch it go up :)
[4:40] <blueskies2> whats the max temp you would recommend
[4:40] <TAFB> anything under 85 is safe
[4:40] <blueskies2> good
[4:40] <TAFB> starts to get a little flakey over 70c when overclocked
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[4:40] <axion> TAFB: what distro you running?
[4:40] <TAFB> wheezy?
[4:40] <axion> is that hf?
[4:41] <TAFB> raspbian?
[4:41] <TAFB> axion
[4:41] <TAFB> i'm noob
[4:41] <TAFB> ask me in english
[4:41] <axion> are their packages using the cpu's floating point code (faster) or not?
[4:41] <TAFB> oh, I dunno. I'm running hard float
[4:41] <axion> thats what i wanted to know
[4:42] <TAFB> lol
[4:42] <axion> can you please tell me what it says for ls /usr/lib/gcc
[4:42] <axion> should be 1 dir
[4:42] <TAFB> arm-linux-gnueabihf
[4:43] <axion> ah thanks
[4:43] <blueskies2> hey guys, btw rev 2 GPIO pins are here
[4:43] <blueskies2> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/Raspberry-Pi-GPIO-Layout-Revision-2-e1347664831557.png
[4:43] <TAFB> oh nice map
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[4:47] <spaceace85> what are you guys using your rPi's for?
[4:47] <TAFB> mine is web server (Pancake + PHP) and e-mail server (Citadel).
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[4:50] <blueskies2> TAFB: i want to make use of GPIO, atm media server
[4:50] <TAFB> k.
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[4:54] <TAFB> Wow, the Pi i just got in the mail had way out of date firmware! I just updated with: https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update
[4:54] <Tachyon`> it shouldn't have had any firmware at all
[4:54] <Tachyon`> you supply that on SD...
[4:54] <TAFB> it was a prebuilt image on the SD, must have been old
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[4:58] <symhedonia> hey, does anyone connect with the pi to an WPA enterprise network? eduroam ?
[4:58] <TAFB> WPA PSK for me
[4:58] <TAFB> had all kinds of issues with the WPA key
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[4:58] <TAFB> ended up having to copy and paste it right from my routers config page, then it worked flawless
[4:59] <symhedonia> hell i dont know where to even start
[4:59] <TAFB> My wireless pi: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-09-RaspberryPi_is_finished.jpg
[4:59] <TAFB> you running Wheezy, using the WiFi config program in x?
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[5:00] <symhedonia> hah that's cool
[5:00] <symhedonia> yeah
[5:00] <TAFB> thx :)
[5:00] <TAFB> fire up "startx" and use the WiFi config program, works sweet
[5:00] <symhedonia> wpa_gui, but i'm a wireless noob :/ trying to set it up manually so i could take a look at the log files but im even failing at that
[5:00] <symhedonia> homenetwork is just wpa2
[5:00] <TAFB> wpa_gui, just click scan, double click your network
[5:01] <symhedonia> the problem is that it works at home, yeah no problem. but at university it doesn't - they use a radius server with mulitiple access points on the network
[5:01] <TAFB> hmmm. I'm a linux noob, for sure not the best person to be askin :)
[5:01] <symhedonia> two linux noobs then :D
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[5:02] <pksato> symhedonia: and, dont have a wpa2 profile on list?
[5:02] <symhedonia> pksato: what does that mean ^_o
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[5:02] <symhedonia> the ESSID does show up, then after trying to connect it goes mad, then disappears
[5:03] <symhedonia> (for the eduroam network)
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[5:04] <pksato> some time need to write a wpa_supplicant file manualy.
[5:05] <pksato> university dont have a web page to help ?
[5:05] <symhedonia> pksato: struggling with that ;/
[5:05] <symhedonia> pksato: university is a bit clueless
[5:05] <symhedonia> they said it works plugNplay with everything they've got
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[5:06] <symhedonia> i spoke with the network admin and i;'m supposed to send him some logs. the problem is that i am struggling to generate them. (healty logs for my stsem first, then logs of me trying to connect.) which does require me to setup everthing manually. but yeah, im sort of lost. ive been at it for several hours now.
[5:07] <symhedonia> healthy logs from my network*
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[5:13] <pksato> symhedonia: try to use PEAP with OTC (if exists)
[5:14] <pksato> GTC, not OTC
[5:14] <symhedonia> well, i'll look that up. once i get those running i'll post scripts and pics
[5:15] <pksato> or others with peap or wpa2-AES
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[5:18] <symhedonia> alright setting up a new script
[5:18] <symhedonia> brb
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[5:43] <jmadero> has anyone had luck running food network plugin on the pi?
[5:44] <bin_bash> what's the food network plugin
[5:44] <jmadero> to watch food network shows that are on their site
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[5:45] <jmadero> wife wants it ;)
[5:45] <bin_bash> is it flash?
[5:45] <jmadero> it's the last piece of the puzzle
[5:45] <jmadero> yeah, but so is cbs and that plugin works fine
[5:45] <jmadero> through xbmc
[5:45] <bin_bash> hm interesting
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[5:45] <jmadero> just got my hulu plus working
[5:45] <jmadero> which is sweet
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[5:47] <bin_bash> oh shit, really?
[5:47] <bin_bash> jmadero, how'd you do it?
[5:47] <jmadero> http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=121023
[5:49] <bin_bash> i still have to get an sdcard for mine
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[5:53] <jmadero> hd quality
[5:53] <bin_bash> wow that's awesome
[5:53] <bin_bash> what about netflix
[5:53] <bin_bash> and youtube
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[5:54] <jmadero> no netflix
[5:54] <jmadero> drm shit
[5:55] <bin_bash> gy
[5:55] <bin_bash> gay
[5:55] <jmadero> youtube no clue
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[6:09] <Gallomimia> test
[6:09] <Gallomimia> uh... that means i'm authed right?
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[6:11] <Gallomimia> cool. got an error message saying i wasn't authed and can't join channel. everything is working perfectly :D
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[6:16] <CelticTurnip> Gallomimia: what? we can't see what you're typing :P
[6:16] <Gallomimia> booooo
[6:16] <CelticTurnip> what?
[6:18] <Gallomimia> bad joke. get off the stage!
[6:20] <CelticTurnip> jes' way to kill the channel :)
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[6:25] * CelticTurnip scrolls up... reads about replacing 4x Proliants with 1x Pi...
[6:25] <CelticTurnip> well I'm going to save my work millions!
[6:26] <CelticTurnip> as someone who works with Proliants everyday I'm calling it TAFB you're on crack! :P
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[6:27] <ackthet> TAFB is a crazy mofo
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[6:28] <CelticTurnip> ackthet: I'm doing it now, removing all of our OpenBSD AMP stacks and replacing them with 1x Pi :)
[6:28] <ackthet> it will work
[6:28] <ackthet> also
[6:28] <ackthet> see if they make a 10gige fiber to usb converter
[6:28] <CelticTurnip> time to remove the FreeBSD/ZFS file servers and replace them with a Pi and USB stick :)
[6:28] <ackthet> and plug the NAS raid's into that bad boy
[6:29] <CelticTurnip> I like me some low power computers, but on what planet is a Pi comparable to anything running on even 1 Proliant?
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[6:29] <CelticTurnip> 2 users connect to database, Pi explodes :)
[6:30] <ackthet> yeah, im trying to see if he'll mail me one
[6:30] <CelticTurnip> get model number first 360 and 380s are nice, everything else is too big
[6:30] <CelticTurnip> and don't get no ML tower, they all suck :)
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[6:32] <CelticTurnip> ackthet: dunno if I'd swap 300MB/s transfers for 28 :)
[6:33] <ackthet> who needs that extra zero
[6:33] <CelticTurnip> you've sold me...
[6:33] * CelticTurnip starts pushing racks over
[6:33] <CelticTurnip> they wont move! :(
[6:33] <jmadero> no one have any success with foodnetwork plugin for xbmc/
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[6:34] <CelticTurnip> I installed it, but haven't checked it... jmadero if you're around in 2 hours I'll be home and can test
[6:35] <jmadero> I'll stay on, let me know about your experience, I get audio, no video
[6:35] <jmadero> hulu plus and cbs are good though
[6:35] <CelticTurnip> np, I'll query you when I get home :)
[6:35] <jmadero> thanks :)
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[6:48] <ParkerR_> TAFB, :D Quake 3 up and running
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[6:52] <ackthet> i played skyrim on my pi
[6:52] <ackthet> it was awesome
[6:52] <CelticTurnip> text based?
[6:52] <CelticTurnip> You wake up in a cart.
[6:52] <CelticTurnip> You see 3 people.
[6:52] <CelticTurnip> >
[6:53] <ParkerR_> Haha
[6:53] <ParkerR_> > Punch all of the characters for terrible voice acting.
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[6:53] <ParkerR_> Error punch is an unknown command
[6:54] <CelticTurnip> I do not understand "Punch all of the characters for terrible voice acting.". Please use 1 or 2 word combinations.
[6:54] <CelticTurnip> >
[6:54] <ackthet> CelticTurnip: I STAP THE EFFING ESS OUT OF Ulfric Stormpoop
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[6:54] <ParkerR_> CelticTurnip, Haha
[6:55] <CelticTurnip> segfault at 0000000 rip 00003f32a823 rsp 000123ade323 error 4
[6:55] <CelticTurnip> Pi out of RAM :(
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[6:56] <CelticTurnip> home time... have fun all
[6:56] <CelticTurnip> jmadero: I'll /msg you when I get home
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[7:00] <nahmaste> anyone install retropie using the compile option?
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[7:02] <GabrialDestruir> Can raspbian use files compressed using ntfs compression?
[7:03] <ParkerR_> nahmaste, Yes I have
[7:04] <nahmaste> ParkerR_: how long did it take?
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[7:05] <ParkerR_> nahmaste, A bit
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[7:06] <ParkerR_> But I think it's worth it in the end
[7:06] <ParkerR_> If it boots back up and doesnt boot to tty1 I have a fix
[7:07] <nahmaste> ssh?
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[7:08] <ParkerR_> No I mean just on the Pi
[7:08] <ParkerR_> When you boot it up with a screen attached
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[7:08] <ParkerR_> RetroPie messed with inittab in my case and I had to fix one line
[7:09] <nahmaste> thanks, i should be able to figure it out, i have a working inittab that boots to advmame. ill hit u up if not.
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[7:12] <DarkTherapy> morning all
[7:12] <ParkerR_> nahmaste, Back it up just in case
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[7:17] <ParkerR_> :D <3 my tty http://i.minus.com/ibtGYPWhZ19G3G.png
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[8:25] <Jibual> Hi everyone I have a smart card reader/writing and rasperian recongizes it, but im not sure how to use it
[8:25] <Jibual> i installed pyscard via aptitude
[8:25] <Jibual> but there main site is down so no help from it
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[8:58] <mrmoney2012> with cron - should it be 00 07 * * * /home/pi/scripts/lights_off.sh 2> /dev/null OR 0 7 * * * /home/pi/scripts/lights_off.sh 2> /dev/null
[8:58] <mrmoney2012> or does it not matter ?
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[9:37] <symhedonia> local wpa scripts up \o/
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[10:36] <frikinz> Is it possible with gpio library to actually write to 2 pins at the same time?
[10:36] <frikinz> (I'm discovering gpios)
[10:37] <neilr> Not as far as I know - I've fiddled with the GPIO pins from BASIC, C and Python. None of them support writing to multiple pins that I know of
[10:38] <neilr> Why would you want to do that? Just because it's there? :)
[10:40] <shiftplusone> I haven't fiddled with the gpio, but IIRC on AVR chips there is an instruction to apply a mask to flip multiple bits at the same time. So there, might be some low level assembly way to do it on ARM too, but I am not even sure how GPIO is interfaced directly, so I don't know.
[10:40] <frikinz> Don't know. If I have somthing on the other side which wants combinations.
[10:43] <neilr> I'd like to see if it could be done in assembler with a mask. I might look into that.
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[10:43] <neilr> Dammit, it's not as if I don't have enough proper work...
[10:44] <frikinz> Not too much for me :) My boss asked me how we can integrate the Pi in some of our projects. So I'm doing a wiki..
[10:44] <frikinz> cross compilation, apt-get, gpio, schematics, .............
[10:45] <neilr> nice - I use dokuwiki both at work and at home.
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[10:45] <frikinz> here 3 years ago the IT departement said sharepoint is being setup. Still waiting
[10:45] <shiftplusone> O_o
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[10:46] <shiftplusone> sharepoint takes a few minutes to set up
[10:46] <gordonDrogon> frikinz, what's the line of business?
[10:46] <DarkTherapy> gordonDrogon!
[10:46] <Jck_true> DarkTherapy: Yup - You spelled his name right :P
[10:46] <DarkTherapy> thank you for the awesome wiringPi
[10:46] <DarkTherapy> :0)
[10:47] <gordonDrogon> neilr, it is possible to set multiple bits, but it's a fiddle as they're not consecutive, so some bit mangling needs to be done. I added it into the latest wiringPi though - writeByte () ...
[10:47] <tanuva> Jck_true: sssh, he used tab completion :p
[10:47] <gordonDrogon> DarkTherapy, cheers!
[10:47] <frikinz> gordonDrogon: from software dev till card engineering, CAD, routing, ... the pi now would control a step motor
[10:47] * Gadgetoid is reminded at the mention of wiringPi that he now has no excuse not to begin maintaining the ports again
[10:47] <frikinz> commanded by wireless
[10:47] <gordonDrogon> frikinz, sounds intersting - but stepper motor control really needs proper real-time control and that's hard on the Pi under Linux...
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[10:47] <frikinz> gordonDrogon: thank you so much for your website and details.
[10:48] <neilr> cool, that's good to know, thanks
[10:48] <gordonDrogon> neilr, one issue is that it has 2 registers - one to set bits, the other to clear bits - so you need 2 writes - one write to turn bits off, one write to turn bits on...
[10:48] <frikinz> gordonDrogon: yes, I changed the architecture to add a microcontroler that will do the clock to the motor. So the interface Pi<>Micro will probably be UART
[10:48] <neilr> currently struggling with the non-consecutiveness of it, as my rev1 board misidentifies as a rev 2 under RISC OS, so it gives me the wrong order :/
[10:48] <gordonDrogon> frikinz, good idea :)
[10:48] <frikinz> ah if bits are not consecutive then..
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[10:50] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: what's new in wiringPi world? I've not been able to update the wrappers for some time, life getting in the way
[10:51] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, not a lot right now. I'm expeirmenting with new softServo and sofTtone code though :)
[10:51] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Saw a guy from quick2wire this weekend, too, forgot his name, but he should send you a kit with minimal prompting
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[10:51] <gordonDrogon> Hm.. all their stuff is pure Python :)
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[10:51] <gordonDrogon> might be an excuse to start playing with I2C ...
[10:51] <Gadgetoid> He attended Norwich RPI: http://quick2wire.com/2012/12/fun-with-norwichrpi/
[10:52] <Gadgetoid> Romily, that's the one
[10:52] <Gadgetoid> Really nice setup!
[10:52] <Gadgetoid> http://quick2wire.com/2012/12/analogue-board-demo/
[10:53] <frikinz> Are there any known problems with the UARTs P1_pin8&10 ? otherwise we'd go on the ftdi usb2serial
[10:53] <frikinz> I guess no problem for a such simple interface but just don't want to go in a dead path
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[10:55] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: It'd be nice to have quick2wire device support in wiringPi, opening it up for other languages
[10:56] <frikinz> I'm also looking at your perl binding for wiringpi. I'm a perl guy..
[10:56] <Gadgetoid> He showed some really cool multi-threading stuff; several python scripts running simultaneously and doing things via the same board
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[10:56] <frikinz> Thinking about doing a POE interface for eventdriven programming
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[10:57] <Gadgetoid> frikinz: Horribly maintained at the moment, sorry! I need to get on that!
[10:57] <frikinz> Gadgetoid: ok :) np
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[10:59] <frikinz> (perl object environment and not power over ethernet)
[10:59] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, well if they send me hardware I'll see what I can do :)
[11:00] <Jck_true> Wishlist (And sorry if they have allready been solved) -
[11:00] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, multi-threading is easy on the pi.... under Linux at any rate.
[11:00] <Jck_true> I2C Clock Speed - Can this be set now?
[11:00] <gordonDrogon> Jck_true, I understand it can, but I've not done it.
[11:00] <Jck_true> SPI - How does it look running that in hardware instead of bit banging?
[11:00] <gordonDrogon> upto 1MHz anyway.
[11:00] <frikinz> multithreading is often not needed. eventdriver yes
[11:01] <gordonDrogon> Jck_true, SPI has been in hte kernel for so-long that I've never 'bit-banged' it ..
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[11:01] <Jck_true> gordonDrogon: It has :| Why does every tutorial i've skimmed mention doing SPI by bit banging :| My bad
[11:01] <gordonDrogon> I have a nice little task scheduller that I wrote for the Arduino - maybe people want something like that on the Pi, but it's so easy to do using threads...
[11:01] <gordonDrogon> Jck_true, because they're stuck in the dark ages and think they know better..
[11:02] <Jck_true> gordonDrogon: Ohh and a version of shiftingOut/shiftIn that supports a custom delay :|
[11:02] <gordonDrogon> Jck_true, hard to make a delay of under 2uS though.
[11:02] <Jck_true> both times I've used shifting Out it has been too fast for the reciving end
[11:02] <gordonDrogon> Jck_true, so it's ~10MHz or 500KHz ...
[11:02] <Jck_true> yeah I used your secondary timmer thing
[11:02] <gordonDrogon> Jck_true, use the SPI port as a shift-out - much easier & more controllable.
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[11:03] <Jck_true> I'll have a look at that :)
[11:04] <martk100> How do I enable dynamic memory allocation with the latest Wheezy dated 28/10/12?
[11:04] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: It was a simple trick, the multi-threading with python, but it was shiny the way all the individual processes could access the GPIO simultaneously
[11:06] <Gadgetoid> It was nice to see something like quick2wire in the backwater Norwich
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[11:07] <neilr> Norwich is a cosmopolitan hub of vibrant energy compared to where I live.
[11:08] <gordonDrogon> I wish I knew what people actually wanted out of the Pi hardware wise. There are now dozens of little IO boards for it.
[11:08] <Gadgetoid> neilr: Hahahaha??? hub...
[11:08] <Gadgetoid> neilr: Yeah I'm aware we're not *that* backwater, but we are certainly off the beaten path for a city
[11:08] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, you can run multiple wiringPi programs concurrently - there's no hardware locking to stop you :)
[11:09] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: I think what everyone wants is to create an IO board and make money + look awesome for doing something so noble
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[11:09] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: So logically the best thing you can do is create a set of instructions, framework and guide that lets people make IO boards..
[11:10] <neilr> I wonder if anyone has done any study into the most profitable Pi add-on so far?
[11:11] <gordonDrogon> My ladder board, of-course :)
[11:11] <neilr> :)
[11:11] <gordonDrogon> and any day now, I might break even ..
[11:12] <neilr> I'd guess that people make more money out of cases than anything else
[11:12] <gordonDrogon> hard to tell...
[11:12] <Gadgetoid> I'd buy one if I weren't Paypal broke
[11:12] <gordonDrogon> a ladder board?
[11:13] <gordonDrogon> don't think tandy take paypal..
[11:13] <neilr> mmmm. My plans to retire to the Bahamas on the back of profits generated from my tea temperature sensing drinks mat are looking a bit shaky right now, true.
[11:13] <gordonDrogon> neilr, Hehe...
[11:14] <gordonDrogon> I think a lot of companies are now seeing the Pi as a cheap back-end to their own products - e.g. Heber in Gloucestershire with their x10i board.
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[11:19] <Gadgetoid> Yikes, 19 files changed, 873 insertions and 126 deletions since my last pull!
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[11:22] <gordonDrogon> Eeee..
[11:22] <Armand> Ffff.. ?
[11:22] <gordonDrogon> indeed.
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[11:22] <gordonDrogon> right. offline for a while. back inna bit.
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[11:42] <megaproxy> i need ideas..
[11:42] <megaproxy> my pi at home atm is just a irc bouncer..
[11:42] <megaproxy> i need to give it new things
[11:43] <TAFB> web server, e-mail server, or have it control some crazy real world stuff, garage door opener, etc.
[11:43] <megaproxy> hmm
[11:43] <megaproxy> how is it as a web server?
[11:43] <tanuva> I'd like to build a car pc, but I don't really see the use in that...
[11:43] <megaproxy> because ther eis a nzb indexer i could put on there..
[11:43] <megaproxy> tanuva, i have another pi for that :P
[11:43] <megaproxy> i still have these 4 at work to sort
[11:43] <Armand> megaproxy, sorry.. what IRC client do you use with that bouncer?
[11:44] * megaproxy has lots of pi's
[11:44] <TAFB> mega: you can install Pancake (plus PHP) and it's a powerful web server :)
[11:44] <megaproxy> depends where i am
[11:44] <megaproxy> mostly i use xchat
[11:44] <tanuva> yep, having a second pi would be the first step :D
[11:44] <TAFB> Citadel can do POP3/SMTP/Webmail
[11:44] <megaproxy> hmm
[11:44] <mrhobbz> nginx
[11:44] <megaproxy> is there a good guide on pancake?
[11:44] <megaproxy> ooh nginx, im used to that
[11:44] <frikinz> a wiki on it can be usefull
[11:44] <Armand> Ahh, XChat.. good..
[11:44] <TAFB> yep, one sec for pancake walkthrough
[11:44] <Armand> What bouncer, megaproxy ?
[11:44] <neilr> dokuwiki on lighttpd works well on the pi
[11:45] <TAFB> https://github.com/pp3345/Pancake/wiki
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[11:45] <TAFB> For citadel (e-mail): http://ducky-pond.com/posts/9/
[11:45] <megaproxy> Armand, znc
[11:45] <megaproxy> TAFB, ta :D
[11:45] <Armand> Huummm
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[11:46] <mrhobbz> idk about the nzb indexer on a pi lol
[11:46] <Armand> I tried znc, but I had to do this blasted /quote whatever every sodding time I connect to the bouncer. >_<
[11:46] <megaproxy> yea
[11:46] <mrhobbz> it'll make baby pi god cry
[11:46] <megaproxy> there is a way to get round that with xchat
[11:47] <megaproxy> i think its "connect command" in the server settings
[11:47] <megaproxy> possibly
[11:47] <megaproxy> ill check when i get home as ive set it up on that
[11:47] <neilr> current pi project: http://www.ronketti.org.uk/pilite.png
[11:47] <Armand> Please do... because I have a machine setup, but having to do that every time was p'ing me off.
[11:49] <megaproxy> about to test!
[11:50] <megaproxy> ok it no workie
[11:50] <megaproxy> lol
[11:50] <megaproxy> its something else..
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[12:03] <megaproxy> another question.
[12:03] <megaproxy> i want to make a pitop out of another pi
[12:03] <megaproxy> so i can websurf in bed
[12:03] <megaproxy> whats a good, cheap 7inchish screen that would work?
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[12:05] <Davespice> megaproxy: this might be of interest; http://blogs.arcsoftwareconsultancy.com/pi/2012/06/15/a-raspberry-pi-laptop/
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[12:06] <Armand> megaproxy, there are a few cheap composite LCD screens on flebay.
[12:06] <RobinJ> i had to power off my raspie yesterday, and now the SSH server doesn't come online :/
[12:06] <megaproxy> is that what i want to look for
[12:06] <RobinJ> i don't have a montor attached/to attach to it
[12:06] <megaproxy> composite?
[12:06] <megaproxy> Davespice, i saw that, but it looked USA only
[12:06] <Armand> The yellow plug..
[12:06] <Davespice> megaproxy: well I wrote it and I am British :)
[12:06] <megaproxy> i was looking for mini hdmi screens..
[12:07] <RobinJ> the web server is up, it seems
[12:07] <megaproxy> Davespice, hax
[12:07] <megaproxy> where did you get it from?!
[12:07] <RobinJ> the ssh server isn't :/
[12:07] <megaproxy> derp you have a link in there
[12:07] <megaproxy> haha
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[12:07] <RobinJ> hmm never mind
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[12:07] <RobinJ> just was very slow to start up :)
[12:07] <Davespice> megaproxy: are you talking to me or someone else? confused
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[12:08] <megaproxy> a bit of everything... ?
[12:08] <megaproxy> i talk to myself half the time :X
[12:08] <megaproxy> the laptop dock thing looks really good though Davespice. neat idea and saves me building something..
[12:09] <Davespice> okay well, the good thing about using the lapdock is that you get a keyboard and a mouse pad that is all in one unit
[12:09] <megaproxy> yea
[12:09] <Davespice> you just need to make the special Y shaped cable
[12:09] <megaproxy> hows the screen?
[12:09] <Davespice> its 1366x768, nice and sharp
[12:09] <martk100> How do I enable dynamic ram allocation in latest Wheezy dated 28/10/12?
[12:09] <megaproxy> i think i might have to get a dock..
[12:09] <TAFB> mega: the screen on the lapdock is absolutely flawless, you'll be blown away by the quality
[12:10] <TAFB> i've never seen text so clear
[12:10] <megaproxy> shame its ?90
[12:10] <megaproxy> bit broke atm
[12:10] <megaproxy> haha
[12:10] <Davespice> when I bought my one the price was only ??65 - but it's gone up because people are buying them for the Raspberry Pi :) (this is a guess, but an educated one)
[12:10] <Davespice> try elsewhere on the net
[12:10] <gordonDrogon> martk100, what do you mean by dynamic?
[12:10] <Davespice> maybe ebay?
[12:10] <TAFB> I saw a refurbished one for ??50, so look for those too
[12:11] <gordonDrogon> martk100, do you mean swap, or the gpu memory split?
[12:11] <TAFB> I think he means GPU memory split
[12:11] <TAFB> I overclocked my Pi, dynmically :)
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[12:12] <megaproxy> ill look on ebay
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[12:13] <martk100> gordonDrogon: I have read that the latest firmware supports dynamic memory allocation. I need a way to split the ram 128/128 on entry to xbmc and back to 64/192 on exit of xbmc to Debian. Will this new feature do this?
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[12:13] <TAFB> martk: I thought dynamic allocation only worked on 512mb boards?
[12:13] <gordonDrogon> martk100, Oh - that's a new one on me.
[12:14] <gordonDrogon> I wasn't even aware that Linux could dynamically have more (or less) RAM added at run-time..
[12:14] <martk100> TAFB: So it only works on 512Mb boards . Mine is 256. Oh dear!
[12:14] <gordonDrogon> Pesonally I'd just reboot a different SD card, but ...
[12:14] <megaproxy> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lapdock-for-Motorola-ATRIX-4G-11-6-Motorola-AT-T-/221165084625?pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item337e775fd1
[12:15] <megaproxy> ?30
[12:15] <megaproxy> wat
[12:15] <megaproxy> its from israel tho..
[12:15] <TAFB> martk: I believe that's what I read. When I ran rpi-update, it said I have 512mb, would I like to specify split or set to dynamic.
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[12:15] <Davespice> megaproxy: its up to you, check the sellers ratings and also depends on how long you want to wait
[12:16] <megaproxy> waiting sucks
[12:16] <megaproxy> lol
[12:16] <tanuva> oh yes
[12:16] <megaproxy> i cant find any good composite screens on ebay :(
[12:16] <martk100> TAFB: Looks like I am stuffed then. I will have to buy a new card.
[12:16] <TAFB> composite sucks, such low low resolution.
[12:17] <megaproxy> but it would be ok for a little screen
[12:17] <Davespice> megaproxy: if you're in the UK, you can try Halfords, the screens used for 'kids in the back' to watch DVDs and stuff work okay
[12:17] <Davespice> I have seen some for under ??50
[12:17] <TAFB> martk: Wait 12 hours from now and ask in here, there are people more experienced with the 256mb Pi in there then (axion, etc.). They might be able to answer the question better.
[12:17] <mrhobbz> woot new pi gets here today
[12:17] <megaproxy> good shout
[12:18] <martk100> TAFB: gordonDrogon: Thanks for your comments .
[12:18] <TAFB> my 2nd Pi arrived yesterday. I couldn't get Berryboot to boot on it, but was able to use a tiny 60mb image to get it to boot to test it :)
[12:18] <TAFB> good luck martk :)
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[12:20] <gordonDrogon> maybe it's time for me to get a Rev 2 Pi ..
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[12:20] <TAFB> Just hope you get a working one :(
[12:20] <megaproxy> i have 3 512mb boards
[12:20] <megaproxy> and 3 older ones
[12:20] <megaproxy> :D
[12:20] <egrouse> arent you cool
[12:20] <egrouse> :)
[12:20] <megaproxy> no :(
[12:20] <TAFB> and they all worked right away Mega?
[12:21] <megaproxy> 4 are for work
[12:21] <megaproxy> lol
[12:21] <egrouse> haha
[12:21] <nid0> why wouldnt they work?
[12:21] <gordonDrogon> I have 3 Rev 1's.
[12:21] <megaproxy> TAFB, the new 512 ones did not
[12:21] <megaproxy> they came with sd cards imaged
[12:21] <megaproxy> wouldnt boot
[12:21] <megaproxy> you just need the newest wheezy
[12:21] <megaproxy> then they boot fine
[12:21] <TAFB> mega: I meant no defective Pi's :(
[12:21] <megaproxy> oh yea
[12:21] <megaproxy> no DOA
[12:21] <TAFB> my first two Pi's were bad. Part of the bad solder batch.
[12:21] <TAFB> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=228650#p228650
[12:21] <megaproxy> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Brand-New-4-3-TFT-LCD-Car-reverse-RearView-Color-Monitor-DVR-High-Quality-cz7-/400361516961?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item5d3767efa1
[12:22] <TAFB> youtube vid of problem (skip to 3:40): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsMPBcVCw10
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[12:22] <megaproxy> oh it just dies?
[12:22] <TAFB> mega, the text is so fuzzy on composite, you can barely read it. Skip composite if at all possible, you have no idea how crappy it is.
[12:22] <megaproxy> hm
[12:22] <megaproxy> fine
[12:22] <megaproxy> lol
[12:22] <megaproxy> im trying to be cheap here!
[12:22] <buZz> well
[12:22] <buZz> depends on your fontsize :P
[12:22] <TAFB> yep, loses video and usb/ethernet, but the CPU continues to plug away! lol
[12:23] <TAFB> only way to fix it is to cook your Pi in the oven :(
[12:23] <megaproxy> get baking
[12:24] <TAFB> i sent it back, they replaced it, that one was defective as well (lasted about 30 mins at the prompt, instead of 4, but would go dead if I fired up X).
[12:24] <TAFB> but the next time they replaced it (so my 3rd one), works! :)
[12:25] <TAFB> here it is, workin hard serving websites and fighting spam: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-09-RaspberryPi_is_finished.jpg
[12:26] <TAFB> runs so great overclocked :)
[12:27] <megaproxy> i guess thats a wifi usb?
[12:27] <TAFB> how else could it be serving websites with no ethernet ;)
[12:27] <TAFB> http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1048_1053&item_id=050682
[12:27] <megaproxy> well thats what i was going to say haha
[12:28] <TAFB> it's on the officially supported Pi wifi list, but it draws HUGE power. If you want to run it in your Pi, and not in a powered USB hub, you have to do some soldering :)
[12:29] <megaproxy> lol
[12:29] <megaproxy> ill stick to cables :P
[12:29] <nid0> odd, it should work just fine
[12:30] <nid0> thats an rtl8188-based device, they all draw perfectly low enough amounts of power to run on the pi
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[12:30] <TAFB> you got me nid0, it just kept dropping out constantly, like every 3 seconds. Drop out, re-connect, drop out, re-connect. Eventually after 60 seconds it'd just stop detecting it.
[12:31] <TAFB> Once I bridge the USB power, worked sweet :)
[12:31] <TAFB> similar to this (not my pic): http://i.stack.imgur.com/eU2tt.jpg
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[12:32] <Gadgetoid> Drat, what's the Pi distro that includes RetroArch ready to go?
[12:33] <gordonDrogon> TAFB, compost video output: http://unicorn.drogon.net/piduino.jpg
[12:34] <megaproxy> that looks fine for me.
[12:34] <megaproxy> to*
[12:34] <TAFB> gordon: Those old school monitors work sweet for composite, do NOT use that as a comparison to trying to run it on one of those garbage portable DVD screens
[12:34] <gordonDrogon> it's actually better than that photo shows - that's just off my phone.
[12:34] <gordonDrogon> TAFB, you're probably right, but I'd also tweaked the Pi's output to fit that screen to exactly 640x480.
[12:34] <megaproxy> TAFB, what camera do you have
[12:35] <megaproxy> because that picture is....
[12:35] <gordonDrogon> The same on my old Tube TV was acceptible too.
[12:35] <TAFB> mega: If you can find an old Commodore 64 monitor it'll work great.
[12:35] <megaproxy> oldschooooolwebcam style
[12:35] <nid0> sigh, fttc's just arrived at our exchange
[12:35] <nid0> but not, apparently, at my cabinet :(
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[12:35] <TAFB> Mega: My Pi screen: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/RaspberryPi_can_you_spot_it.jpg
[12:35] * megaproxy has 120mb to home
[12:35] <gordonDrogon> nid0, you don't need fttc :)
[12:35] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: Have one of those portable DVD screens, good lord they're awful
[12:35] <megaproxy> TAFB, wana see my pi screen's?
[12:35] <megaproxy> 3 47inch tv's
[12:35] <megaproxy> on a wall
[12:35] <nid0> gordonDrogon: no, I dont, but it'd be nice
[12:35] <megaproxy> ;)
[12:36] <TAFB> Gadget: Ask Gordon how he tweaked it for exact 640x480 and you might be able to improve the image on your portable DVD screen
[12:36] <gordonDrogon> left of the picture - one RPi :)
[12:36] <TAFB> (possibly 720x480 if it's widescreen)
[12:36] <gordonDrogon> I put the numbers into /boot/config.txt
[12:36] <TAFB> you got it gordon :)
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[12:37] <TAFB> gordon: I've tried that, but the resolution was slightly off causing blurry text, something to do with overscan, I tried disabling it but that wasn't the solution
[12:38] <Ed_> im triying to mount a 2 K display with some pi
[12:39] <TAFB> I have a 1440p display, but doesn't take hdmi, and I get no picture with HDMI to DVI adapter.
[12:39] <TAFB> http://www.ebay.ca/itm/330823475974
[12:39] <gordonDrogon> I've more or less given up with the old monitor now - I bought a reconditioned 720p TV with hdmi input for about ?65.
[12:39] <gordonDrogon> it does 1336x768 just fine.
[12:40] <buZz> 'do not use with port converter'
[12:40] <Ed_> humm that 1440p seems to be expensive
[12:41] <TAFB> I got it for $285usd. Was the best price I could find on a 1440p IPS screen with minimum 360 brightness.
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[12:42] <Ed_> i thought about buying some low cost LCD without picture frame and connect 1:1 to some pi then with sage (scalable adaptative graphics) mount the 2K display
[12:43] <megaproxy> i just want a little laptop :(
[12:43] <buZz> megaproxy: motorola lapdock?
[12:43] <TAFB> you will be impressed with the lapdock Mega!
[12:43] <megaproxy> yea its been mentioned
[12:43] <TAFB> the picture quality is mind blowing
[12:43] <megaproxy> and i really want it
[12:43] <Ed_> it will be fun if its works its like having a 8000 ??? of TV in the order of 1000 ???
[12:43] <megaproxy> but its just a tad too expensive
[12:43] <buZz> megaproxy: http://nurdspace.nl/RasPi_Lapdock_Laptop
[12:43] <megaproxy> my budget is about ?50
[12:43] <buZz> hehe, better save a little more :)
[12:43] <megaproxy> D=
[12:44] <megaproxy> but i have drugs to smoke!
[12:44] <megaproxy> lol
[12:44] <buZz> lol
[12:44] <megaproxy> i guess ill save for one
[12:44] * buZz smokes more than you!
[12:44] <megaproxy> as they do look uberwin
[12:44] <megaproxy> oh you think do you ;)
[12:44] * megaproxy mods r/trees
[12:44] <buZz> ;)
[12:44] * buZz doesnt have time for 4chan
[12:44] <megaproxy> reddit*
[12:44] <buZz> same diff
[12:44] <megaproxy> yep
[12:45] <buZz> but no time, as i need to took up
[12:45] <buZz> toke*
[12:45] <megaproxy> hahah
[12:45] <megaproxy> pmuch the same
[12:45] <megaproxy> get home, toke, play with pi's or something
[12:46] <buZz> s/home/hackerspace/
[12:46] <buZz> ;)
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[12:50] <Ed_> i thought also about domotice my room with pi
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[12:53] <TAFB> Ok, I'm off to bed. Almost 7am here. nite nite
[12:53] <megaproxy> buZz, there are some hackspaces in my town
[12:53] <megaproxy> but idk.. id prefer to make my own hackspace
[12:53] <buZz> megaproxy: awesome! which town?
[12:53] * megaproxy is pretty introvert
[12:53] <megaproxy> Reading
[12:54] <buZz> you really should visit!
[12:54] <megaproxy> i may pop in at some point
[12:54] <megaproxy> they have a argon laser...
[12:54] <buZz> do you know about the 'teahouses revolution' ?
[12:54] <megaproxy> LASERRRRR
[12:54] <Gadgetoid> ??? aren't we all introvert?
[12:54] <buZz> when humans stopped drinking alcohol and moved to coffee&tea
[12:54] <buZz> there was this tiny revolution, which was very important
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[12:54] * megaproxy rarley drinks
[12:54] <buZz> people started to _share ideas_
[12:54] <neilr> I'm in Reading quite often
[12:55] <buZz> which helped bring a lot of ideas forward
[12:55] <buZz> _this_ is the goal of a hackerspace
[12:55] <neilr> Can't say that I stop there very long though :)
[12:55] <buZz> not infrastructure, or just location, but the blending of people to advance ideas and development
[12:55] <buZz> megaproxy: this is why you REALLY should visit the hackerspaces!
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[12:56] <megaproxy> buZz, but then i have to talk!
[12:56] <megaproxy> with words.
[12:56] <megaproxy> and speaking.
[12:56] <buZz> no
[12:56] <buZz> they are all autistic
[12:56] <buZz> you can just think it really loud, and they will understand
[12:56] <megaproxy> hahah
[12:56] <buZz> believe me, this works better than you think now ;)
[12:56] <megaproxy> tbh my group of buddies basically do have our own hack space
[12:56] <megaproxy> my shed!
[12:56] <megaproxy> we got weldars
[12:57] <megaproxy> grinders
[12:57] <megaproxy> thingers
[12:57] <buZz> cool, core group
[12:57] <buZz> do you have open nights? advertized?
[12:57] <buZz> a logo?
[12:57] <megaproxy> nope
[12:57] <buZz> an entry on hackerspaces.org?
[12:57] <megaproxy> ive been toying witht the idea of renting a workshop
[12:57] <buZz> if all no; you are not a hackerspace
[12:57] <megaproxy> so there is a REAL space
[12:57] <megaproxy> my sheds a tad small and damp
[12:57] <neilr> Heh. That sounds suspiciously like my shed - looking under the desk I see a MIG welder and angle grinder, among other stuff.
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[12:58] <buZz> megaproxy: your shed sounds like my house :P
[12:58] <megaproxy> my buddy this weekend : http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/301208_10151194242173303_1265625348_n.jpg
[12:58] <buZz> but i rather work in the hackerspace
[12:58] <megaproxy> http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/72329_10151194240923303_1398678143_n.jpg
[12:59] <Davespice> megaproxy: 3 series is it?
[12:59] <buZz> not enough hightech!
[12:59] <chris_99> is that a stick welder megaproxy?
[12:59] <buZz> & woot, just received 50 UV leds :P
[12:59] <TAFB> buzz, you going to make a UV led cube? yikes
[13:00] <buZz> hehe nah
[13:00] <TAFB> lol
[13:00] <buZz> just were running out of leds for random use on the hackerspace
[13:00] <buZz> so now, it will all become blacklight >:)
[13:00] <buZz> UV leds are the new blue leds
[13:00] <chris_99> heh
[13:00] <buZz> YES THEY ARE
[13:00] <buZz> :P
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[13:01] <megaproxy> and im back
[13:01] <megaproxy> yea its a s3
[13:01] <megaproxy> and a stick welder
[13:02] <buZz> galaxy s3?
[13:02] <megaproxy> landrover
[13:02] <buZz> he's welding a smartphone to his truck?
[13:02] <buZz> ah
[13:02] <chris_99> haha
[13:02] <megaproxy> we got rid of the rust holes..
[13:02] <megaproxy> there were ... a few
[13:02] <megaproxy> http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/p206x206/268364_10151194242978303_1408740940_n.jpg
[13:02] <megaproxy> http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/297698_10151194240108303_1871765387_n.jpg
[13:02] <chris_99> eek
[13:02] <megaproxy> worst welding EVER
[13:02] <megaproxy> but it was fun
[13:02] <megaproxy> this is mainly to learn how to do things
[13:03] <megaproxy> i doubt it will EVER be safe to drive
[13:03] <megaproxy> haha
[13:03] <buZz> doesnt look terrible
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[13:03] <buZz> could have been worse :D
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[13:03] <tanuva> you need more leds on that s3
[13:03] <chris_99> is there a way to scrape the rust off somehow as it where
[13:04] <buZz> yes, use a metal brush
[13:04] <megaproxy> i think some of you UK bassed people should come to a camp thing we do
[13:04] <buZz> iron brush
[13:04] <megaproxy> a bunch of us IRC peeps get together near reading
[13:04] <megaproxy> and get really drunk/stoned
[13:04] <megaproxy> :D
[13:04] <buZz> megaproxy: some did
[13:04] <buZz> megaproxy: EMFcamp
[13:04] <megaproxy> nah
[13:04] <megaproxy> thats lame
[13:04] <buZz> why?
[13:04] <megaproxy> TAC camp
[13:04] <buZz> https://www.emfcamp.org/
[13:04] <megaproxy> because ours is obviously better!
[13:04] <buZz> what is TAC?
[13:04] <megaproxy> tea and crumpets
[13:04] <buZz> emf had 300 visitors
[13:04] <megaproxy> yea well ours had like 14
[13:04] <buZz> how much will tac get?
[13:04] <buZz> lol
[13:04] <megaproxy> haha
[13:05] * buZz is orga for next years big event
[13:05] <buZz> well, part of
[13:05] <megaproxy> its litterally just to get drunk.
[13:05] <megaproxy> and sit by a fire
[13:05] <buZz> https://ohm2013.org/ <---
[13:05] <buZz> will get 3500 visitors probably
[13:05] <buZz> and MANY raspis
[13:05] <megaproxy> http://imgur.com/a/frpN0
[13:05] <megaproxy> ^ some pics of ours
[13:05] <megaproxy> its getting bigger each time
[13:05] <megaproxy> soon we will need a site...
[13:06] <buZz> lol
[13:06] <buZz> well, OHM is a lot more pro ;)
[13:06] <megaproxy> this is anything but pro
[13:06] <megaproxy> haha
[13:06] <megaproxy> the requirements are, bring beer, and bacon
[13:06] <megaproxy> maybe a tent
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[13:06] <buZz> OHM is the result of a long tradition of events, ever since 1989 !!!
[13:07] <buZz> every 4 years there is a big hackers meeting in .nl
[13:07] <buZz> which next year will be called OHM
[13:07] <megaproxy> im pretty sure i have heard of it.
[13:07] * MichaelC|Sleep is now known as MichaelC
[13:07] <megaproxy> or heard of a big camp thing in nl
[13:07] <buZz> you should go, it is freakin awesome :D
[13:07] <megaproxy> haha maybe next year
[13:08] <buZz> it IS next year
[13:08] <megaproxy> oh
[13:08] <buZz> :P
[13:08] <megaproxy> well maybe then!
[13:08] <buZz> in summer!
[13:08] <megaproxy> i forgot were almost at the end of the year :(
[13:08] <buZz> ;)
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[13:10] <Hoerie> <+megaproxy> or heard of a big camp thing in nl <-- campzone probably
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[13:13] <megaproxy> http://i.imgur.com/UnsT5.jpg
[13:13] <buZz> campzone has no relevance to anything
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[13:13] <buZz> also, nobody cares
[13:13] <buZz> :)
[13:14] <megaproxy> lol
[13:14] <megaproxy> i need to go on a hike again
[13:14] <buZz> really, who cares about a gamerslanparty
[13:14] <megaproxy> but its too damn frosty
[13:14] <buZz> when you are in #raspberrypi :)
[13:15] <megaproxy> crap
[13:15] <megaproxy> that reminds me
[13:15] <megaproxy> im ment to organise a lan party for my scout group
[13:15] <megaproxy> D=
[13:15] <megaproxy> i dont want tooooo
[13:15] <megaproxy> they will just share porn or something
[13:15] <megaproxy> and ill get in trouble
[13:15] <megaproxy> lol
[13:15] <buZz> minecraft the night away
[13:15] <shiftplusone> keep it pg please
[13:16] <shiftplusone> or better yet, c.
[13:16] <megaproxy> mybad
[13:16] <buZz> which part are you referring to shiftplusone ?
[13:16] <megaproxy> probably the pron
[13:16] <megaproxy> or me swearing
[13:16] <buZz> you swore?
[13:16] <megaproxy> crap.. is kinda a swear word i guess
[13:16] <megaproxy> in america..
[13:16] <buZz> crap is just a biological product, isnt it?
[13:16] <tanuva> buZz: what about a lan party only with Pis? will simplify energy supplies :)
[13:16] <buZz> tanuva: that would be awesome :D
[13:16] <shiftplusone> nuh, pretty sure crap is fine, heh
[13:16] <megaproxy> haha
[13:16] <buZz> or maybe limited to ARM
[13:17] <megaproxy> what games can the pi run?
[13:17] <megaproxy> i saw quake...
[13:17] <buZz> shiftplusone: ah, just the referring to 'bodily tinted media material' ?
[13:17] <megaproxy> how bout the old UT?
[13:17] <buZz> megaproxy: scummvm?
[13:17] <tanuva> UT99: probably not for arm
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[13:17] <buZz> someone needs to port UT to OpenGLES
[13:17] <shiftplusone> idn, to be honest I am not paying too much attention, just seemed approporiate to throw it out there =p
[13:17] <megaproxy> omg old pac games!
[13:17] <tanuva> but sauerbraten/similars might work
[13:17] <TAFB> quake1 lan parties = the best :)
[13:17] <buZz> shiftplusone: THIS IS HOW IT STARTS!
[13:17] * buZz throws a bomb
[13:18] <shiftplusone> heh
[13:18] <buZz> dont enforce what you dont believe :)
[13:19] <shiftplusone> buZz, I think enforcing would mean kicking/banning, which I don't do just for swearing.
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[13:20] <megaproxy> im tired
[13:20] <shiftplusone> And I also wouldn't mention 'bodily tinted media material' in the potential presense of children.
[13:20] <megaproxy> and work is slow
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[13:20] <Hoerie> <shiftplusone> buZz, I think enforcing would mean kicking/banning, which I don't do just for swearing. <-- also hard to do when you are unvoiced ;-)
[13:21] <shiftplusone> voice doesn't do anything on this channel O_o
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[13:22] <xrosnight> helloo Guys!! Any one knows when New Raspberry Pi with Camera will come out????? :D thanks!
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[13:22] <jon1012> hi
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[13:22] <jon1012> hey
[13:22] <xrosnight> jon1012, hi
[13:22] <shiftplusone> think the camera is a separate module. I think they said first quarter of next year, but I wouldn't put any faith in that.
[13:23] <jon1012> someone got that problem already ? (on a fresh raspbian install with last public image)
[13:23] <jon1012> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ wget
[13:23] <jon1012> wget: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libtasn1.so.3: invalid ELF header
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[13:23] <buZz> shiftplusone: average age to get confronted with hardcore material was 5 years old about 4 years ago
[13:23] <buZz> shiftplusone: its probably 4 or 3 years now
[13:23] <tanuva> I refuse to believe that
[13:24] <buZz> you are free to do so
[13:24] <tanuva> do you know which country that stats were referring to?
[13:24] <buZz> europe
[13:24] <buZz> in general
[13:24] <shiftplusone> buZz, that may be the case, but I am sure parents don't think that's ok.
[13:24] <buZz> shiftplusone: doesnt matter what parents think, it just is the case
[13:25] <xrosnight> i am going to buy one board. but i hear something about camera addon :)
[13:25] <shiftplusone> buZz, sure, but how does it affect what people are ok with discussing in front of children. Everyone knows children know worse things than most people would like to admit.
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[13:26] <shiftplusone> xrosnight, those should work with existing boards, that' what the extra connectors are for. (AFAIK)
[13:26] <shiftplusone> *that's
[13:27] <buZz> shiftplusone: afaik, ReggieUK decides here :D
[13:27] <xrosnight> shiftplusone, does it mean i have to buy a camera addon if i want even after the camera add release with the new raspberry Pi?
[13:27] <buZz> xrosnight: yes
[13:27] <buZz> unless you dont want a camera
[13:27] <buZz> then you dont need to buy it
[13:27] <StMichel> if is an add-on, after all
[13:27] <shiftplusone> buZz, things are generally decided fairly democratically (by us, the self-chosen elite, 'course)
[13:28] <xrosnight> buZz, it's okay. this addon can be something for robotics i think.
[13:28] <xrosnight> shiftplusone, agree
[13:29] <shiftplusone> buZz, but nuh, the rules are pretty much the same as on the forum. We would edit out swearing on the forum as well. We're trying to keep it in line with the foundation's standards on these things, I think.
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[13:29] <buZz> what forum?
[13:29] <shiftplusone> the official forum
[13:29] <buZz> this irc channel, the unofficial channel, has a forum?
[13:29] <shiftplusone> on raspberrypi.org
[13:29] <shiftplusone> buZz, no, but some of the ops here are mods on the forum.
[13:30] <buZz> yeah, thats their problem :P
[13:30] <shiftplusone> >=/
[13:30] <shiftplusone> heh
[13:30] <buZz> forums and irc channels are totally different media and as such respond differently to these kind of rules
[13:31] <xrosnight> agree
[13:32] <shiftplusone> agreed here as well, but that doesn't change that this channel should be fairly child friendly (and be something their parents wouldn't mind their children being on)
[13:32] <buZz> so its not very logical, common or normal to apply the same rules to diffirent media
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[13:32] <buZz> yeah, but talking about 'oh no there will be porn' or 'hmm crap' might be frowned upon on a forum, nobody really cares on irc
[13:33] <tanuva> rules that don't have anything to do with the mechanics of the media should certainly applied anyway
[13:33] <buZz> forums is the low threshold communication method
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[13:33] <buZz> irc is a much higher threshold
[13:33] <shiftplusone> buZz, I'll just throw out there that it's my opinion and understanding of the matter. I don't know what reggies or scone's reasoning on the matter is.
[13:33] <buZz> i'll just agree to disagree, as usual ;)
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[13:34] <shiftplusone> yeah 'course, I do understand what you're saying.
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[13:34] <buZz> happy :)
[13:35] <buZz> hmmm, 10 euro for a usb battery
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[13:35] <shiftplusone> what capacity?
[13:35] <buZz> not much .. let me find it
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[13:37] <shiftplusone> that's a 10Ah Anker one on amazon which I have been eyeing for a while
[13:38] <buZz> probably not 10 euro?
[13:38] <shiftplusone> definitely not.
[13:38] <shiftplusone> hence the eyeing and not the owning
[13:39] <shiftplusone> Have a 3200mAh one which is fine for my needs and can run a pi for quite a while too.
[13:40] <jon1012> so, no one got an idea about that wget error ? :(-
[13:40] <jon1012> error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libtasn1.so.3: invalid ELF header
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[13:40] <shiftplusone> have you checked the forum? I may have seen similar problems there
[13:40] <megaproxy> jon1012, try soind
[13:41] <megaproxy> sudo apt-get update
[13:41] <megaproxy> it will get missing parts
[13:41] <megaproxy> or
[13:41] <megaproxy> sudo apt-get update --fix-missing
[13:41] <buZz> ah, its 1500mAh
[13:41] <buZz> 1.5Ah
[13:41] <jon1012> yeah I've tried, but no luck
[13:41] <buZz> might just grab it anyway
[13:41] <buZz> it outputs 1A :P
[13:41] <megaproxy> hmm
[13:42] <jon1012> seems like the ibtasn1-3 package isn't that good (or not for hard float or something like that)
[13:42] <shiftplusone> Depends on your needs 'course, but it looks like it won't even charge your phone fully once.
[13:42] <buZz> doesnt matter
[13:42] <buZz> i just need it to keep raspi on for short amounts of time
[13:43] <buZz> and maybe power this wifi AP i just received
[13:43] <shiftplusone> Should be just fine then
[13:44] <jon1012> speaking of low power, I'm working on a 3.3v epaper module... (compatible with a large range of devices including raspberry pi of course)
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[13:47] <xrosnight> 10 euro usb charger ???
[13:47] <xrosnight> 1000mA?
[13:47] <buZz> 1500mAh
[13:47] <buZz> not a charger
[13:47] <buZz> a battery
[13:48] <megaproxy> i got loads of 1500mah batterys
[13:48] <megaproxy> for my mflb
[13:48] <megaproxy> :D
[13:48] <buZz> hehe
[13:48] <megaproxy> i should make a miniups
[13:48] <buZz> i have a lot of 18650 batteries
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[13:48] <buZz> could just build my own device
[13:49] <buZz> but prefer to have this premade for now
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[13:49] <buZz> xrosnight: http://www.paradigit.nl/paradigit/product/zpr_01lap/08_adap/productdetails/80002494/choiix_powerfort_battery_pack_1500mah/c_2006_w1s0/default.aspx
[13:49] <buZz> (sorry, dutch)
[13:51] <megaproxy> and windows site.
[13:51] <megaproxy> be sorry twice
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[13:56] <xrosnight> buZz, do you have solar powered battery?
[13:56] <buZz> in theory, sure
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[13:57] <buZz> i have some unused solar panels, a lot of different chargers i could hook it up to, and also a lot of batteries
[13:59] <frikinz> jon1012: can you run apt-get update; apt-cache policy libtasn1-3 ?
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[14:00] <xrosnight> buZz, that's cool! i am going to buy some solar panels. and i am in China. i think its much cheaper here maybe.
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[14:00] <buZz> xrosnight: yes probably!
[14:00] <frikinz> :( my coworker took my pi
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[14:01] <buZz> meh
[14:01] <xrosnight> i am going to order one from Rs-online
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[14:01] <buZz> store in the next town has the _exact_ adapter i am waiting on (and taking forever)
[14:01] <buZz> BUT
[14:01] <buZz> its USB3 and not USB2
[14:01] <buZz> ;(((
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[14:01] <xrosnight> but i don't know whether they will charge me if it is sent to China here for Value Added Tax...
[14:01] <buZz> http://www.eijlander.nl/SB4054-Usb-Genderchanger-Usb-B-Male---Usb-Micro-B-Female-3.0-a-423107-2264.html
[14:02] <frikinz> he found "a kernel adapted for the rasp" but only the kernel. I wonder what he found.. and only the kernel, not sure what he's going to do with it
[14:02] <jon1012> frikinz, http://pastebin.com/GDcvMAXu
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[14:06] <frikinz> Looks the correct version. I'm updating packages in my chroot as I have no pi atm
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[14:09] <frikinz> the version is from 18 june so I guess someone else would have seen this.
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[14:10] <frikinz> could be a dependencies of this one though
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[14:23] <frikinz> jon1012: I'm not having the problem. You didn't mix up sources.list? You can aptitude reinstall libtasn1-3 or even check the md5sum of its files in /var/lib/dpkg/info/libtasn*md5sum
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[14:51] <Cf54> Hello, once a raspbian img is on the SD card, is it right if my computer (ubuntu 12.10) do not recognise the SD card any-more?
[14:52] <nid0> no
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[14:52] <DarkTherapy> it should still be able to access the card
[14:52] <Datalink> you may need to remove and reinsert the card, since the FAT changed but Ubuntu should adapt to that I'd think...
[14:52] <Datalink> er the SD's MBR
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[14:53] <DarkTherapy> you should see files on the card, including the config.txt
[14:53] <Cf54> Ok, so there must be a problem (as far as as understood, it is quite similar to a linux live usb)
[14:54] <Cf54> I saw this problem cause I wanted too look for this conf file
[14:54] <DarkTherapy> yes, changes are stored on the card
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[14:54] <frikinz> does dmesg sees the two partitions?
[14:54] <Cf54> I format the card and install again.
[14:57] <Cf54> I am unfortunately not an expert (for now ;) ), dmsg gives a bit too much infomations when used alone. I think I have to filter them (so grep), I filter whith sdb1 (this was the name of the SD cad before)?
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[14:58] <frikinz> if you have only one disk connected in your laptop, the sd card will be named sdb. so sdb1 would be /boot and sdb2 /
[14:58] <Cf54> (my ubuntu do not react when I insert the SD card, but my andro??d smartphone say it is corrupted)
[14:58] <frikinz> mkdir /tmp/x ; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /tmp/x
[14:59] <Cf54> mkdir /tmp/x ; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 /tmp/x retun that sdb1 does not exist
[15:00] <frikinz> ls /dev/sdb* ?
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[15:00] <frikinz> or ls /dev/sd* even
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[15:01] <frikinz> do all gpios pin have pull up pull down resistors?
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[15:02] <frikinz> Mmh its in the BCM2835. So probably yes, all
[15:02] <Cf54> /dev/sdb1 exist I started the dd command again. I will see the result and tell you.
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[15:02] <frikinz> if ls shows a sdb1 then mount can't say it doesn't exist.
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[15:04] <frikinz> Cf54: the dd needs to be done on the whole sdb ie the whole card, as the img is a "disk image" and not a single partition
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[15:05] <jon1012> frikinz, I just powered up my raspberry pi with newer image :(
[15:05] <frikinz> Cf54: take care with dd, if you take the wrong sdX, you erase your harddisk ;)
[15:05] <jon1012> frikinz, I'll try another distro than raspbian
[15:05] <jon1012> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ aptitude reinstall libtasn1-3
[15:05] <jon1012> aptitude: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libsigc-2.0.so.0: invalid ELF header
[15:05] <Cf54> Oh, I think I understood the problem. I asked dd to put the img on sdb1 instead of sdb
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[15:06] <gazzwi86> So I managed to get audio streaming from my pi to a server a while ago, but the quality is really poor, while i think some of this is down to the sound card I'm sure the rest must be down to my settings. I'm using PyAudio and socket to transfer the data: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=32&t=23504&p=222393#p222393
[15:07] <Jck_true> gazzwi86: Streaming audio from the pi to the server? You don't mean the other way?
[15:07] <gazzwi86> no
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[15:08] <gazzwi86> Jck_true: I have a usb sound card on the pi, the pi calls up the server , which has a static ip, and sends it the data from the mic
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[15:09] <frikinz> jon1012: did you modify any sources.list?
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[15:09] <teh_orph> yo
[15:10] <jon1012> frikinz, nope, just installed, didn't do anything since install
[15:10] <jon1012> frikinz, and install is a big word, I just booted up the dd if/ofed sd
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[15:10] <jon1012> and sshed into it
[15:10] <frikinz> jon1012: and what gives file /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libsigc-2.0.so.0
[15:10] <frikinz> jon1012: I wonder how it even booted :)
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[15:11] <jon1012> frikinz, what do you mean by gives ?
[15:11] <frikinz> the output of: file ..
[15:11] <jon1012> oh
[15:11] <jon1012> /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libsigc-2.0.so.0: symbolic link to `libsigc-2.0.so.0.0.0'
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[15:12] <frikinz> file /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libsigc-2.0.so.0.0.0
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[15:13] <frikinz> so with this, no c++ program is going to run.
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[15:14] <frikinz> jon1012: file /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libsigc-2.0.so.0.0.0
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[15:17] <jon1012> frikinz, /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libsigc-2.0.so.0.0.0: data
[15:18] <frikinz> wow :/ I hope your sd card is not corrupted. I'd check it and reinstall if it is ok
[15:18] <jon1012> ok, I'll try to reinstall
[15:18] <jon1012> thanks
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[15:19] <frikinz> jon1012: this is what I have, for the record:
[15:19] <frikinz> # file /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libsigc-2.0.so.0.0.0
[15:19] <frikinz> /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libsigc-2.0.so.0.0.0: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, BuildID[sha1]=0x060b5f7371f8065c23b589798821d273bec87e38, stripped
[15:20] <jon1012> ouch ok
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[15:20] <Jck_true> Since when did #raspberrypi become #compiler-gribberish
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[15:22] <frikinz> I think it's #sdcard-corrupted from its "data" output
[15:23] <jon1012> frikinz, or just basly copied
[15:23] <jon1012> badly*
[15:23] <frikinz> jon1012: badly copied and still booting. called luck! . maybe
[15:23] <jon1012> yeah
[15:23] <jon1012> it's a 16gb class 10
[15:23] <jon1012> which works quite well on other devices
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[15:26] <Vanfanel> Sorry for the newbie question but, would g++ produce arm-hardfloat binaries automatically in latest debian wheezy if I don't specify any compiler options? (no "-march=armv6 -mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=hard" or anything). g++ -v seems to suggest it's configured to do so, but I'm not sure, and readelf doesn't give this information.
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[15:29] <Cf54> So, after formating the sd card whith andro??d, I done dd whith sdb instead of sdb1, and now it seams to work perfectly.
[15:29] <Cf54> I can now find the config text in the boot partition
[15:29] <Cf54> So thanks for your help
[15:30] <frikinz> Vanfanel: doesn't readelf -A shows arch tags?
[15:30] <Patagonicus> Vanfanel: When your compiling on the device, using --march=native is nearly always the best way to get compiler optimisations.
[15:31] <gazzwi86> any suggestion for how to turn a pyaudio stream to mp3?
[15:31] <Vanfanel> frikinz: yes, that gives more information, thanks!
[15:33] <Vanfanel> Patagonicus: I just wanted to know if the configuration options shown with g++ -v where applied automatically in generated binaries
[15:34] <Vanfanel> frikinz: Tag_ABI_HardFP_use: SP and DP Tag_ABI_VFP_args: VFP registers
[15:34] <Vanfanel> that means it's a hardfloat binary, using the hardware FPU on the SOC, right?
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[15:36] <frikinz> Didn't know about this --march=native. Does not seem to work on my raspbian gcc though. and it looks like by default hardfloat is disabled. Maybe I'm doing a mistake here
[15:39] <buZz> maybe the gcc with hardfloat wasnt compiled on a gcc with hardfloat
[15:39] <buZz> :)
[15:39] <Patagonicus> frikinz: Maybe Debians gcc is too old, I just know that since that feature was introduced, all guides for Gentoo say to always use --march=native instead of hard coded values if you're not crosscompiling or using distcc. And I stick to that because I'm sure GCC knows better what to do than I. :)
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[15:40] <frikinz> Yes, while searching on this native stuff I landed on gentoo wiki. not a surprise :)
[15:40] <arcanescu> is there a camera interface / video onboard solution for the pi....
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[15:44] <linuxstb> arcanescu: "very early 2013" according to a comment in this blog post - http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2629
[15:45] <arcanescu> hmmmmm
[15:46] <Vanfanel> frikinz: so, are binares compiled with g++ without any options using hardware FPU? I didn't get it clear from your suggested readelf -A as I don't know these registers
[15:47] <frikinz> Vanfanel: no idea :) I think not. I'm currently having some issues with mixed gcc4.6 and 4.7
[15:47] <frikinz> Vanfanel: try what Patagonicus suggested
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[15:49] <Vanfanel> frikinz: thanks again :)
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[15:52] <Cf54> First try of the raspberry pi, it eams to work, but the keyboard do not work verry well. sometimes key do not print on the screen, sometimes it print the same key like if i keep the key pressed. It is really not convenient to write the default raspbianpi pasword.
[15:53] <megaproxy> change the password then :P
[15:53] <Jck_true> megaproxy: *slaps*
[15:53] <Jck_true> Cf54: Do you have a multimeter at hand?
[15:53] <Cf54> would be easyerto do whith a normaly working keybord.
[15:54] <Cf54> Jck_true: yes, need to check alim?
[15:54] <Jck_true> Measure the voltage from TP1<->TP2
[15:55] <Cf54> (it is a 5V, 1200mAh alim bought whith the pi at RS)
[15:55] <Cf54> Ok
[15:55] <Jck_true> Oh you should be safe there then... Have you checked the power rating on your keyboard too? And are you running the latest raspbian image?
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[15:58] <Jck_true> The USB stack is a bit of a mess on the Raspberry :/
[15:59] <Cf54> 4,95V DC
[16:00] <Cf54> I downloaded the image yesterday directly from respberrypi.org link
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[16:02] <megaproxy> random ban was random
[16:02] <ReggieUK> not at all
[16:02] <megaproxy> i missed the cause then
[16:02] <megaproxy> lol
[16:02] <ReggieUK> just a quick reminder to everyone, if you don't want to obey the channel rules (No foul language) then we *will* ban you, whether it's at the time or retrospectively
[16:03] <qrwteyrutiyoup> :)
[16:04] <ReggieUK> thanks to anyone that tried to deal with it at the time, if you need an op, please PM us, calling for us in the channel can get lost in the noise
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[16:07] <Cf54> Perhabst the response time of the keybord can be in cause, it is a razzer one whith 1ms response time (and 1000Hz ultrapolling)
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[16:07] <Cf54> I'll try whith a wireless one to see if better
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[16:12] <ReggieUK> oh and a quick heads up for everyone, if we PM you about your language, if you want to stay in the channel it is in your own best interests to reply
[16:12] <Cf54> Working fine with the wireless keyboard. So apparently a litle incompatibility with razzer blackwidow keyboard.
[16:12] <megaproxy> is the C word counted as a swear
[16:12] <megaproxy> not the obvious c word that is very much a swear
[16:12] <megaproxy> the notsobad one
[16:13] <neilr> I'm wondering about "Razzer"... :)
[16:13] <ReggieUK> if you don't, we'll assume that you don't care about our rules and will ban you
[16:13] <shiftplusone> megaproxy, cookies?
[16:13] <megaproxy> :P
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[16:14] <shiftplusone> I've been letting crap slide and don't see it as foul language.
[16:14] <megaproxy> ReggieUK, c word
[16:14] <megaproxy> is bad or good
[16:14] <megaproxy> the poop related one
[16:14] <megaproxy> coz i say that a lot without thinking :X
[16:14] <Cf54> May you put a link to the rules? I do not see one in the channel description
[16:14] <megaproxy> from topic: http://northernirelandlions.co.uk/
[16:14] <megaproxy> uh
[16:14] <megaproxy> no
[16:14] <megaproxy> "** No Foul Language ** No unauthorised Bots **"
[16:15] <megaproxy> that about sums up what he was just saying.
[16:15] <ReggieUK> I don't appreciate it in the channel personally but I won't ban you for it, I have in the past though
[16:15] <Cf54> Oh, sorry, I was thinking about longer rules.
[16:15] <shiftplusone> Cf54, like a list of words that aren't allowed? =p
[16:15] <megaproxy> ReggieUK, ok, ill try not to say it ;)
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[16:17] <Cf54> shiftplusone: no, that's all right, I thougt there were more rules in an official website. Sorry for my question
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[16:19] <shiftplusone> Cf54, it's not something to worry about. If someone does something wrong, they get pulled up on it. What happens after that is at the discretion of the mod. I am normally ok with arguing, but ban after people continue to break the rules on purpose. Others may ban for arguing or ignoring though. In short, if you're not a jerk, you won't get banned.
[16:20] <ReggieUK> I will in general try and PM first, if I think you're worth it
[16:20] <ReggieUK> if you've generally been a pain on the channel though, don't bank on the pm :D
[16:21] <ReggieUK> I might just ban cos I'm having a bad hair day
[16:21] <ReggieUK> and every day is a bad hair day for me
[16:22] <jon1012> didn't hear such stuff since old freenode irc time when I was a teenager...
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[16:23] <buZz> jon1012: yeah, its ancient times here
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[16:24] <jon1012> erm, sorry didn't mean freenode but undernet
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[16:25] <jon1012> indeed. netsplits, arguments with ops, etc.
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[16:26] <ReggieUK> we don't argue
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[16:26] <ReggieUK> and netsplits aren't our fault
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[16:29] <Grievre> I'm curious where you draw the line between "discussing" and "arguing"
[16:29] <shiftplusone> I am perfectly fine with arguing
[16:29] <Grievre> because I've often been accused of "arguing" when I thought I was just talking about something
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[16:29] <Hoerie> unfortunately you cannot prevent uncouth characters from showing up ;-)
[16:30] <egrouse> my sister and i used to get stung with that a lot Grievre
[16:30] <egrouse> we used to have perfectly acceptable discussions at high volume
[16:30] <egrouse> and just got told to stop arguing
[16:30] <egrouse> all the time
[16:30] <egrouse> no care for freedom of speech
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[16:33] <Grievre> Another thing I don't understand about irc is channels where people complain about off topic conversation when the channel is otherwise dead
[16:33] <Grievre> I understand if the off topic conversation drowns out on topic conversation that would otherwise happen
[16:33] <shiftplusone> Grievre, not a problem here
[16:34] <Hoerie> it's certainly been a while since I've seen the 'topic' being used as an actual indication of the topic
[16:34] <Grievre> #c is particularly bad about this because their rules for what constitutes "off-topic" are rather ridiculous
[16:35] <ReggieUK> indeed, off-topic chatter is usually ok
[16:35] <Grievre> Like talking about particular compilers, or third party libraries, or using C in a non-standards-conforming way are "off topic" in #c and the ops will hound you about it at the very first mention
[16:36] * ackthet readies a troll
[16:36] <ackthet> in #c
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[16:40] <adb> hi
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[16:42] <ReggieUK> adb, PM
[16:43] <arcanescu> i have a device in which is shown in ls /dev/video0 ... on removing the device the video0 does not disappear
[16:43] <arcanescu> do i need to manually remove it before i resinert?
[16:44] <arcanescu> this problem does not happen on say an x86 pltatform hence the question
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[16:53] <roasted_> oh no!
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[16:54] <roasted_> seems as if my raspberry pi has a solid pwr light and nothing else :(
[16:54] <egrouse> i had that issue when i was using inferior microusb cables
[16:54] <egrouse> ie microusb cables that didnt charge anything
[16:54] <egrouse> switched to a different cable/port and all good
[16:55] <ReggieUK> check that the sdcard is properly inserted
[16:55] <ReggieUK> then check that it's properly burnt
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[16:57] <Hoerie> the first time I inserted my sdcard I had to put a fair amount of pressure on it
[16:57] <roasted_> ReggieUK: I have two pi's, tried two different cards. Each card works in one pi, but not the other.
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[17:00] <roasted_> I wonder if it's dead. No matter what pressure I put on, usb adapters, cables, etc I try, nothing works
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[17:01] <ReggieUK> is it a new pi?
[17:01] <roasted_> yeah
[17:01] <roasted_> I've never used it
[17:01] <ReggieUK> no I mean new as in have you recently bought it
[17:02] <roasted_> I finally received my pi around uh... august
[17:02] <roasted_> at the same time my boss surprised me with one, so I ended up with two model B's
[17:02] <roasted_> hadn't used either one until last week, but they originated from the same-ish time
[17:03] <ReggieUK> I would see about getting it replaced then really, if it's not reading sd cards
[17:03] <roasted_> Is it possible that it just needs a hard reset of some sort?
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[17:03] <ReggieUK> there's no such thing on the pi
[17:04] <ReggieUK> all of the configuration is done on the SD card
[17:04] <roasted_> so if the pi won't read sd cards, there's no further troubleshooting to do?
[17:04] <ReggieUK> if you don't get any green lights at all then it indicates either a problem with the card or something further up the chain
[17:05] <roasted_> Yeah, and it's not the card - works with the other Pi...
[17:05] <ReggieUK> whether that's a power issue (try the pi with nothing else plugged in) or there is a missing/poorly soldered/bad component
[17:05] <ReggieUK> you can check the voltages across tp1/tp2 too
[17:05] <megaproxy> check the pins
[17:05] <megaproxy> they need to have spring in them
[17:05] <megaproxy> 2mm above the plastic
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[17:07] <roasted_> megaproxy: the pins do have spring, but I'm unsure what you mean by 2mm above. You mean the metal pins should clearly be above the dark gray plastic housing that the SD card sits in?
[17:09] <TAFB> roast: not above the actual holder, just above the base of the socket.
[17:09] <roasted_> they certainly look like they should be making contact...
[17:09] <roasted_> I would think anyway
[17:10] <Hoerie> if both pi's are of the same revision and you use the same psu for both and the same sdcards and this combo works in one pi, yet not in the other - I would conclude that one of the pi's is broken
[17:10] <TAFB> did you check TP1-TP2? http://elinux.org/images/d/d1/RPI_Test_Points.JPG
[17:10] <ReggieUK> Hoerie, sort of
[17:10] <ReggieUK> it could also be something stupid like a bad polyfuse
[17:10] <ReggieUK> which can be overcome by jumpering it
[17:10] <roasted_> TAFB: I apologize, I'm not sure what you mean. What am I tocheck, specifically, with TP1?
[17:11] <Hoerie> I categorize that as 'broken' , I don't have any multimeters or things so no way to check
[17:11] <TAFB> the picture, check the voltage between TP1 and TP2 with a volt meter
[17:11] <megaproxy> wait
[17:11] <megaproxy> roasted_, is this the new 512 board?
[17:11] <TAFB> it makes sure your polyfuse F3 isn't acting up, and your power supply is happy
[17:11] <roasted_> eh, I do n't have a volt meter handy
[17:11] <ReggieUK> roasted_, you use a multimeter to check the voltage to tp1/tp2
[17:11] <ReggieUK> megaproxy, august he recieved them
[17:11] <roasted_> megaproxy: I don't believe so. My other one is a 256
[17:11] <megaproxy> ah ok
[17:12] <megaproxy> my 512 ones came with sd cards
[17:12] <megaproxy> and would not read them
[17:12] <megaproxy> i had to reflash
[17:12] <megaproxy> the ones it came with worked fine on the older pi's
[17:12] <Hoerie> doesn't the number on the chip allow you to check?
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[17:12] <TAFB> my 512 ones came defective :(
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[17:12] <megaproxy> mine came from china :(
[17:12] <TAFB> mine too
[17:12] <megaproxy> not the best soldering job..
[17:12] <TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi_problem_made_in_china.jpg
[17:12] <roasted_> Are there any known issues with Sandisk Extreme SD cards with the Pis?
[17:13] <ReggieUK> look for 2G or 4G on the hynix chip
[17:13] <megaproxy> i should set up a blog...
[17:13] <roasted_> I have a Patriot card in the other Pi which didn't work here, but this time I'm using a Sandisk Extreme, whcih it too is not working
[17:13] <TAFB> roast: None reported, there's an official sd card list
[17:13] <megaproxy> TAFB, why is your made in china sticker stuck on
[17:13] <ReggieUK> if it's 2G its 256MB, 4G is 512MB
[17:13] <megaproxy> mines printed..
[17:13] <TAFB> I have two patriot cards, both work awesome.
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[17:13] <TAFB> mega: No idea, if I peel it off it says "made in uk" under!?
[17:13] <megaproxy> wat
[17:13] <TAFB> yep
[17:14] <megaproxy> isnt that in breach of some law..
[17:14] <TAFB> both my bad Pi's were like that
[17:14] <TAFB> the working one has Made in China printed right on the board
[17:14] <megaproxy> how odd
[17:14] <TAFB> very
[17:14] <roasted_> I noticed some SD cards were class 4 on the Pi site. Does a rpi not benefit from faster cards like class 10 etc?
[17:14] <TAFB> it's all about small file size (4k) random write speed
[17:14] <megaproxy> i dont think they work too well with them
[17:14] <TAFB> class 10 means it's great at huge sequential files
[17:15] <roasted_> megaproxy: them? as in class 4 or 10?
[17:15] <TAFB> but could be slow as piss on random writes (i.e. running an OS in the Pi)
[17:15] <megaproxy> class 10
[17:15] <megaproxy> class 4 is fine
[17:15] <roasted_> all I have are class 10's here. :/
[17:15] <ReggieUK> 10's have faster speeds but the pi is limited to ~20MB/s anyway
[17:15] <TAFB> class 10 could be fine, class 4 could be faster ;)
[17:15] <roasted_> *head explodes*
[17:15] <TAFB> the sandisk extreme super pro 666 class 10 or whatever are insane at random speeds.
[17:16] <TAFB> one sec, I'll get you the list
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[17:16] <ReggieUK> 6's were the ones that were recommended afaik
[17:16] <Hoerie> as some brands put whatever hardware they can find under the same model, it is hard to say that any type will 'work'
[17:16] <roasted_> I have two Sandisk Extreme 16GB SD cards... rated at 45 MB/s...
[17:16] <roasted_> I wonder how they stack up.
[17:16] <ReggieUK> the other things you can do of course are boot the kernel from SD then mount your rootfs from something else
[17:17] <ReggieUK> like a usb thumb drive or external hdd, LAN etc.
[17:17] <TAFB> here's the speed list: http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-sd-cards/IOMeter-2008.08.18,2708.html
[17:17] <TAFB> and just look at what I run in my Pi! http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi.jpg
[17:17] <TAFB> woot :)
[17:17] <Hoerie> I would try with a class 4 or 6 card for laughs, just to be sure
[17:18] <megaproxy> i honestly see no reason for the heatsinks..
[17:18] <roasted_> TAFB: the SDs I have are 3rd on that list.
[17:19] <TAFB> Nice! Should rip. Let me check the Pi compatibility list, if they are on there you should be golden.
[17:19] <roasted_> actually, mine are faster than that.
[17:19] <roasted_> Those listed at the 30 MB/s models of the Sandisk Extreme
[17:19] <roasted_> I have the 45 MB/s
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[17:19] <TAFB> roasted: those are RANDOM write operations, not sequential ;)
[17:20] <TAFB> my Patriot on sequential: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/patriot%2032gb%20class%2010%20SD%20card%20test.png
[17:20] <roasted_> TAFB: but these are still solid for rpi usage?
[17:20] <TAFB> use that Tom's Hardware list to determine which are best for the Pi, then check the card against the Pi compatibility list.
[17:21] <TAFB> compatibility list: http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#SD_cards
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[17:22] <roasted_> 16 GB SDHC Class 10 Extreme (45 MB/s) (SDSDXPA-016G-FPP) - Working with latest RaspBMC image (tested 12/09/2012)
[17:22] <TAFB> nice. should be good then, one of the fastest cards for use in the Pi :)
[17:22] <roasted_> ah
[17:22] <roasted_> see, I was misunderstanding.
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[17:22] <Hoerie> only a guarantee if yours is from the same batch of course
[17:22] <roasted_> I thought you folks were indicating that while the card I have is fast, it's not fast in the way the rpi utilizes it
[17:23] <roasted_> random vs sequential
[17:23] <TAFB> roasted: Keep the junk space on your SD card clear so wear levelling works and yoour card will run top notch. sudo ionice -c 3 fstrim -v /
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[17:23] <TAFB> roasted: Some class 10 super fast sequential write cards SUCK at random writes/reads, and are way slower than most class 4 and 6 cards.
[17:23] <roasted_> TAFB: what exactly does that do?
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[17:23] <roasted_> TAFB: ah, I see. So I made a good choice?
[17:23] <TAFB> i'm not 100% sure. something to do with the free space on your card.
[17:24] <TAFB> roasted: yep, good choice for a random pick and not looking at the list :)
[17:24] <roasted_> I just picked what radioshack had in stock. :P
[17:24] <TAFB> woot
[17:24] <roasted_> I was surprised at their prices. Couldn't complain.
[17:24] <Hoerie> generally sd cards seem to be rated against, for instance, camera performance
[17:24] <TAFB> what'd it cost ya?
[17:24] <Hoerie> where writing large chunks in one go is more par for the course than random access
[17:25] <roasted_> 22 a pop
[17:25] <roasted_> 3 bucks more than what it is online
[17:25] <TAFB> Hoerie: yep, that's why the toms hardware test is good, random i/o operations (Pi like), not squential (digital camera/gopro like)
[17:25] <TAFB> great price
[17:25] <roasted_> he told me radioshack and sandisk have a partnership, so their sandisk cards tend to be cheaper.
[17:25] <TAFB> nice
[17:25] <Hoerie> if you are going to be watching movies off the card on your pi, then you might favour a different type though ;-)
[17:26] <roasted_> Hoerie: naw, this is for OS only.
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[17:26] <roasted_> In fact I'm using the pi's as mini servers.
[17:26] <TAFB> mine is web/email server = lots of random i/o
[17:26] <roasted_> My plan is to take down my existing server that eats 400w continuouisly
[17:26] <roasted_> then set up two pi's with 1 external hdd each (3TB)
[17:26] <Hoerie> I would use a usb device if I was concerned about read/write speed
[17:26] <TAFB> My Pi, workin hard serving websites and fighting spam: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-09-RaspberryPi_is_finished.jpg
[17:26] <Hoerie> and keep only boot on the sd card
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[17:27] <roasted_> both will run 247, with one being the file server everybody backs up to. Then once a day (2 am) one pi rsync's to the other.
[17:27] <roasted_> that day I have an extra degree of backups
[17:27] <TAFB> did you overclock roasted?
[17:27] <roasted_> moderately
[17:27] <roasted_> 800mhz I believe
[17:27] <Hoerie> it could be that your pi doesn't handle the overclock
[17:27] <roasted_> moved the gpu memory to 16... running CLI only
[17:27] <TAFB> I've got a sweet config.txt that'll dynamically overclock to 1ghz when needed. works flawless on both my Pi's
[17:28] <roasted_> Hoerie: I OC'd my working pi. I never OC'd this pi because I never got it to turn on.
[17:28] <TAFB> I'm running 16mb gpu too. I run x11vnc tho
[17:28] <roasted_> TAFB: I just rely on ssh.
[17:28] <frikinz> TAFB: Is the wifi dongle stable? Which tplink is this?
[17:28] <TAFB> I've never tried it :) I'm a windows guy, so X makes me happy
[17:28] <TAFB> frik: let me tell you :(
[17:29] <TAFB> wifi adapter: http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1048_1053&item_id=050682
[17:29] <roasted_> TAFB: I gotcha. I thought about having a GUI, but I'd rather devote as much resources as possible to the internal workings vs the GUI.
[17:29] <TAFB> to make it work IN the Pi WITHOUT a powered usb hub: http://i.stack.imgur.com/eU2tt.jpg
[17:29] <roasted_> TAFB: I have video surveillance feeds saving around the clock to my pi, so the more I can free it up, the better
[17:29] <TAFB> nice :) just JPG capture?
[17:29] <roasted_> H264
[17:29] <TAFB> dirty
[17:30] <roasted_> my cameras support saving to network shares onboard of their interfaces.
[17:30] <roasted_> so I route them to record 247 H264 feeds to a samba share on the pi
[17:30] <TAFB> my neigbour set up his Pi to do JPG captuer and image compare, to catch his other neighbours dog crapping on his lawn! If it detects motion it sends the picture to his cell phone via sms/text message!
[17:30] <roasted_> so then I have like /media/storage/surveillance/video_feeds
[17:30] <roasted_> TAFB: I have a similar setup there as well. I run Motion on the Pi, which takes JPG snapshots.
[17:30] <TAFB> nice
[17:31] <roasted_> But I wanted fluid feeds as well, which MJPG won't do.
[17:31] <roasted_> MJPG @ 20 fps will pwn your LAN.
[17:31] <Datalink> I need to look into that eventually...
[17:31] <TAFB> frikinz: did you get my replies re: wifi?
[17:31] <Datalink> roasted_, ffmpeg?
[17:31] <frikinz> TAFB: yes thank you. I remember now of your wires :) How much does it get then (electronic-noob here)
[17:31] <roasted_> so I have Motion running with MJPG, taking 1 jpg every 3 seconds, then I have the cameras saving around the clock 247 via H264. That way I can look into the "snapshots" folder and see the single snapshot taken when motion detection occured. Then I can reference the time stamp to look through the much higher quality H264 feeds if I need to.
[17:32] <roasted_> That way if I see on Motion that a UPS guy was punting a cardboard box, I can dig through the higher quality video feeds and post it on youtube. :D
[17:32] <roasted_> Datalink: I assume. I'm not sure what Motion is based on or what it uses.
[17:32] <TAFB> frik: What do you mean, how much does it get? How much power? As much as my power supply wants to give out :) With that setup the wifi is SUPER stable. It NEVER drops out, and the speed is awesome.
[17:32] <Datalink> hm, how would I get the wifi SSID with script?
[17:33] <roasted_> Datalink: Motion is a Linux based application which can tie in USB and network based cameras for MJPG streams. Then it'll cross reference the # of pixels that have changed to figure out if it was truly motion detection or not
[17:33] <Datalink> oh nice
[17:33] <roasted_> Datalink: so if you have raspbian installed you can apt-get install motion, it's in the repos.
[17:33] <frikinz> TAFB: ok interesting. As long as your key doesn't shortcut everything. I guess there's no big risk
[17:33] <roasted_> Datalink: I put a 25 minute how-to video on youtube explaining how to use it if you're curious.
[17:34] <roasted_> Datalink: I do IT side work so when there's 80 bucks of parts on my doorstep I want eyes on it until I get home, hence my interest in video surveillance.
[17:34] <Datalink> I'll look into it later, right now I'm trying to solve the 'finding my pi to SSH into it on school wifi' problem
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[17:34] <roasted_> Datalink: all good. Just keep it in mind if you ever feel the need to take it a step further. ;)
[17:34] <TAFB> frik: Not much chance of the wifi adapter shorting out :) If you're only using a 2amp/2000ma USB power supply nothing would explode/catch fire.
[17:34] <Datalink> yeah, very valid reason, I don't have that strong a need yet
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[17:34] <TAFB> If you're using a 30amp supply like mine, fireworks :)
[17:35] <nahmaste> tried retropie last night. was a disaster =/ segfaults in emulationstation and strange, buggy behavior
[17:35] <Datalink> TAFB, yeah... anything kinda disintigrates at 30 amps that isn't rated for HV
[17:35] * Datalink tries to figure out the wifi stack...
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[17:36] <frikinz> TAFB: did you measure how much the tplink is taking at peak? As the usb spec says, units are allowed to take at peak 5A for a very short time
[17:36] <TAFB> data: I was using my meter to 10amp load test the actual current capability of the usb ports (the main ones, not the micro USB). with the usb ports power pins bridged, I could back feed 6.5amps before the USB cables started to melt :)
[17:36] <roasted_> are rpi orders up to speed yet?
[17:36] <roasted_> or are they still behind?
[17:36] <Grievre> roasted_: I ordered mine from newark and it came in a week
[17:36] <Datalink> my data on orders is 2 months out of date
[17:36] <TAFB> newark had stock on friday, I see it says "sold out" today
[17:36] <roasted_> Grievre: recently?
[17:37] <roasted_> I wo nder what kind of ETA there will be to rma this guy
[17:37] <TAFB> I ordered my 2nd pi on Friday and I got it yesturday! :)
[17:37] <Grievre> roasted_: yeah like a week or two ago
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[17:38] <TAFB> frikinz: 5amps? lol. 500ma (0.5a) maybe ;) I measured the tp-link card as drawing 335ma peak (not when you plug it in). The USB ports on a stock Pi are good for about 150ma only :(
[17:39] <frikinz> TAFB: 500mA is max but someone told me, for peaks up to 5A.
[17:39] <chithead> only for the very first models there are fuses at the usb ports
[17:39] <Datalink> so rev 1 Bs
[17:39] <TAFB> frik: I've seen spikes of 30amps when run off my 30amp supply, when connecting my USB powered 2.5" hard drive. reboots the Pi every time I plug it in, no matter how much power I give it.
[17:39] <Datalink> like mine >.<
[17:40] <roasted_> TAFB: yeah I saw the pi didn't like powering my 2.5" external hdd. :(
[17:40] <TAFB> chithead: The new models have a main poly fuse that limits the USB as well, 500ma to the Pi and 200ma total to the two ports.
[17:40] <Datalink> TAFB, you may want to add a rail if you want to power those sorts of devices
[17:40] <frikinz> 11.12.5 The preset value cannot exceed 5.0A and must be sufficiently above the maximum allowable port current such that transient currents do not trip the over current protector. etc... USB Overcurrent protection spec
[17:40] <TAFB> roasted: if you use the jumper wires it'll power your 2.5" hdd perfect, you just can't hot plug it
[17:41] <roasted_> I ended up getting one of these, which looks substantially nicer in my little network rack anyway. I need to pick up a 2nd one for the other pi, whenever I get around to rmaing it
[17:41] <roasted_> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182155
[17:41] <TAFB> nice, it's got it's own power supply?
[17:41] <roasted_> TAFB: It's hardly a loss, since I want to get 3TB USB HDD's anyway (1 for each pi).
[17:41] <roasted_> yeah
[17:41] <TAFB> sweet
[17:41] <roasted_> self powered, then just USB'd in
[17:41] <frikinz> http://www.linuxdriver.co.il/lib/usb/2/USB_2.0_Specification/doc-201 USB Spec 2.0
[17:42] <roasted_> if I RMA an rpi, am I to go to who I ordered from?
[17:42] <roasted_> or is there a centralized place?
[17:42] <TAFB> roasted: that's how I did it. newark includes a return shipping label (pre-paid) with every Pi
[17:43] <roasted_> TAFB: man, so much has happened since I received these pi's. I have no idea where any packaging would be.
[17:43] <roasted_> all I have here is a non-working pi
[17:43] <TAFB> if you call up where you got it from they'll usually e-mail you a waybill so you don't have to pay
[17:44] <roasted_> I'm not entirely positive I know which one came from where. I know one came from element14, but the other I'm not sure of since my boss grabbed it.
[17:44] <roasted_> Man I suck at this.
[17:44] <TAFB> lol. What prob is your Pi having? Maybe you just need to bake it in the oven!
[17:44] <roasted_> TAFB: it's flat out not turning on.
[17:45] <roasted_> well, it powers on, but does nothing else
[17:45] <TAFB> so you get the power light, but no green act light?
[17:45] <Datalink> ok, I'm using wicd forr my wifi needs, would it be enough to write a shell script in /etc/wicd/scripts/postconnect/ to send the network info to an external server? or would I need to do it with WPA Supplicant?
[17:45] <roasted_> TAFB: yep, solid red power. That's it. Nothing else.
[17:45] <TAFB> do you have a windows PC to re-write the SD card?
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[17:46] <roasted_> TAFB: no, I only use Linux. The SD card works in my other Pi.
[17:46] <roasted_> I wrote the card in linux to begin with.
[17:46] <TAFB> roasted: I am working on a super special diagnostics bootable image for the Pi. Would you like to try it? It's a .img so you'd have to write that to the card, I dunno how to do it in Linux, just windows.
[17:46] <Datalink> roasted_, have a second SD card to test with?
[17:47] <roasted_> Datalink: yep, 2nd one failed too.
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[17:47] <roasted_> TAFB: if it's an .img I know what to do with it
[17:47] <Datalink> roasted_, I'd start metering the pi itself and make sure the contact sensor's working
[17:47] <frikinz> Datalink: can't you use no-ip? wicd is unmaintained
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[17:47] <TAFB> roasted: ok, pefect, one sec let me upload it to my server.
[17:47] <roasted_> Datalink: I don't have a meter :(
[17:48] <Datalink> frikinz, joy... no, I can't no-ip because I need the network IP not the public IP
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[17:48] <Datalink> this is for using my pi on the school wifi
[17:48] <Datalink> and I'm getting tired of stealing a monitor from the computer lab every time I boot the thing to find out what it's IP is
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[17:49] <Datalink> not that I mind abusing school equipment... it's just a pain redoing the DVI cables
[17:49] <TAFB> roasted: is your screen connected by HDMI
[17:50] <neilr> Datalink: I have a small LCD display on one of my pis to tell me the IP address when it boots
[17:50] <frikinz> Datalink: well, from the name "postconnect", I'd say its a good place to put the script :)
[17:50] <Datalink> neilr, my budget is 'ramen if I'm lucky'
[17:50] <neilr> No point at all really, as I configured it with a static address
[17:50] <Datalink> frikinz, that's what I'm hoping, I will be testing this on a known network before I use it proper
[17:51] <roasted_> TAFB: no, I have no HDMI. I set up a dhcp server on my laptop and wanted to connect via cat5 and SSH into the default account.
[17:51] <Datalink> neilr, I don't have that luxary either, there's a high chance of collision
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[17:51] <TAFB> damn.
[17:51] <roasted_> TAFB: but the link never gets established. The NIC isn't even recognized.
[17:51] <neilr> connect an LED to the GPIO pins and write some code to flash the IP address out in binary?
[17:51] <TAFB> roasted: My diag boot doesn't enable ethernet, only diag outputs to screen
[17:52] <Datalink> neilr, tempting... but I have a web server, or I could write some code to e-mail me or something...
[17:52] <roasted_> TAFB: the only HDMI device I have is a single TV at home. :(
[17:52] <TAFB> time to hijack it! :)
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[17:52] * Datalink uses an HDMI<->DVI cable
[17:52] <TAFB> you can use composite to any old TV, or spare DVD screen for your car, etc.
[17:53] <Datalink> ah good old RCA cables...
[17:53] <TAFB> anyway, you should at least see the activity light going for a bit, if you know this is booting ;)
[17:53] <TAFB> ok roasted, here ya go: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/TAFB_diag_boot.img
[17:53] <TAFB> write it on the oldest, super crappiest SD card you can find.
[17:53] <TAFB> It's less than 100mb :)
[17:54] <neilr> mmmm - how about connecting up a pair of headphones and getting the pi to beep the IP address to you in morse code?
[17:54] <Datalink> neilr, actually... that gives me an idea...
[17:54] <Datalink> *hunts for Festival* I've been wanting to do TTS for a while anyway.
[17:54] <TAFB> the Pi could wirelessly transmit the IP over FM radio, and just say the actual ip address
[17:55] <neilr> How about flashing the onboard LED?
[17:55] <TAFB> could do that to... would take a while to blink out the entire ip address
[17:55] <neilr> Just hope it's on a 10. network, not 192.
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[17:55] <TAFB> rofl
[17:56] <frikinz> the last byte should be a correcting code then :)
[17:56] <Datalink> actually I'd use hex
[17:57] <TAFB> roated: keep a super close eye on the green activity LED when you boot up that image, it'll only blink like twice quick, if everything is working :)
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[18:00] * Datalink laughs at a thought...
[18:00] <Datalink> GPIO FM radio, numbers station...
[18:00] <neilr> Got it! Install festival, then pipe the IP address to it
[18:00] <neilr> Just tried it here
[18:00] <Datalink> "Gamma ten zero zero niner"
[18:01] <axion> TAFB: what did i miss?
[18:01] <axion> and do YOU ever sleep?
[18:01] <TAFB> axion:
[18:01] <TAFB> i went to sleep at 7am and had a dr. appt at 10am :)
[18:01] <TAFB> I have to go in for knee injections in 45 mins, fun :(
[18:01] <axion> ouch
[18:02] <TAFB> and axion: I've built a super small (60mb) bootable SD card image for troubleshooting people's Pi's! works sweet, but only displays diag information to display (hdmi/composite).
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[18:03] <axion> nice
[18:03] <axion> i am in the process of cross-compiling a micro linux distribution from scratch
[18:03] <TAFB> axion: my leg, why I have to go for knee injections: http://ecuflashking.com/r6/2011-09-08-Xrays/Jamie%27s%20Leg%20Length%20Xray%20%28extra%20small%29.png
[18:03] <TAFB> nice
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[18:03] <axion> using uclibc instead of glibc, etc
[18:04] <Datalink> now to figure out how to trigger: hostname -I | festival -tts
[18:04] <axion> when?
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[18:04] <TAFB> data: Something like "if ip not equal to 0.0.0.0"
[18:05] <axion> @Datalink
[18:05] <TAFB> he wants to trigger it to read out the IP address when he hops on a new internet connection with his Pi
[18:05] <Datalink> axion, I need a way to trigger it on command while headless...
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[18:06] * neilr hopes the ops aren't listening, as I've just had five minutes teaching my pi to swear
[18:06] <axion> oh easy...at least with netcfg. i dont know what you use to connect with
[18:06] <Datalink> though I'd prefer (still) to write to a page... exotic ones are fun too
[18:06] <TAFB> neilr: youtube vid!
[18:06] <Datalink> wicd or wpa supplicant, honestly not sure
[18:07] <Datalink> neilr, video or it didn't happen :P
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[18:07] <Datalink> the fun thing is... by it's nature the pi will have an internet connection when I need this
[18:07] <neilr> Sorry chaps - don't have a device capable of recording video, or a youtube account
[18:08] <TAFB> cell phone?
[18:08] <Datalink> neilr, google accounts work across products but sucks you have no recording devices... phone?
[18:08] <axion> Datalink: look into dhclient's exit hooks
[18:08] <TAFB> crappy digital camera?
[18:08] <TAFB> webcam?
[18:08] <TAFB> must have something that can record video
[18:09] <neilr> I'll try and work something out but for now, just install festival, and echo "knob" | festival --tts
[18:09] <neilr> (Can I say knob?)
[18:09] <egrouse> haha knob
[18:09] <axion> you can say knobjob
[18:09] <egrouse> knob isnt a swear
[18:09] <egrouse> it means a dial on a thing
[18:09] <egrouse> like an amp
[18:09] <egrouse> :D
[18:09] <egrouse> or a stereo
[18:09] <egrouse> they have knobs
[18:09] <axion> Datalink: man dhclient-script (section: HOOKS)
[18:09] <TAFB> my amp has knobs
[18:10] <axion> assuming you have the package installed and use it instead of dhcpcd
[18:10] <TAFB> my attempt at a bit of video editing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wUoEnlcvxI
[18:10] <Datalink> I use dhcpd on my 703N but not my pi
[18:10] <Gadgetoid> @gordonDrogon: teaser: http://pi.gadgetoid.co.uk/post/026-gordons-raspberry-pi-ladder-board
[18:10] <axion> not dhcpd
[18:10] <neilr> I can see tonight is going to be a coding night. Getting elite to swear at me when I crash trying to dock...
[18:10] <axion> dhcp client daemon
[18:10] <axion> (cd)
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[18:12] <neilr> If I can get that working, I promise, I'll work out a way to video it.
[18:12] <TAFB> on that ladderboard website, how does he get his live Pi stats?
[18:13] <TAFB> Gadgetoid? :)
[18:13] <Datalink> that was a typo
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[18:13] <axion> ah
[18:14] <axion> well then you either use static or dhclient3
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[18:14] <Datalink> it's dhcient3
[18:14] <axion> dhclient has hooks to fire off at various stages of connectivity
[18:15] <Datalink> yeah, I basically want 'has IP' which is the exit hook, right?
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[18:16] <DarkTherapy> evening all
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[18:17] <Gadgetoid> fied.
[18:17] <Gadgetoid> Err??? fixed!
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[18:17] <pa> hello
[18:17] <Gadgetoid> I think the websockets server probably gets DDoS'd when I get too much traffic
[18:17] <pa> short newbie question: what distribution should i install?
[18:17] <pa> raspbian or something else?
[18:18] <TAFB> Gadgetoid: How'd you do the live Pi stats on your page? :)
[18:18] <pa> i see there are a couple. i'd like to get the most full featured one
[18:18] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: my code is all in Ruby, it's a little websockets server
[18:18] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: Got to dash, but I'll fill you in later if you're around!
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[18:19] <TAFB> okies
[18:19] <TAFB> I want a similar setup :)]
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[18:19] <TAFB> need it to spit out CPU speed and temp and voltage too
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[18:20] <axion> Datalink: curl ifconfig.me
[18:20] <Kane> hey o/
[18:20] <frikinz> pa: take the one you are most confortable with
[18:20] <Datalink> axion, basically, in a way
[18:20] <axion> poll that command maybe?
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[18:20] <axion> keep checking for a value or change of value
[18:21] <Datalink> that won't help me find the device IP, there are methods to find it from Dhclient3 and a script that reads ifconfig/ipconfig
[18:21] <Datalink> er, iwconfig, not ipconfig
[18:21] <axion> device ip?
[18:22] <Datalink> my pi is currently 10.0.0.9 on my wifi, at school it's 10.92.??.??
[18:22] <Datalink> or other addresses, I've seen the entire 10. subnet used by my school's DHCP
[18:23] <Datalink> I need to find this as my pi is usually an inch away from my computer on the same wiif... but I have no easy way to find it... that's the task I'm working on... finding my pi on my local network using my external server
[18:23] <Davespice> Datalink: you almost need a little lcd which displays it
[18:23] <axion> Datalink: ip monitor
[18:23] <Datalink> this pi is often headless as I'm not lugging my TV to school
[18:23] <pa> frikinz, never used rpi
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[18:23] <pa> have to start off with something
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[18:23] <Datalink> yeah, Davespice again, no budget...
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[18:24] <axion> that will monitor the kernel for ip changes and other network changes...you just poll that to see when you lan ip changes
[18:24] <Davespice> if you're allowed samba on your school network you could install samba and winbind, that would then let you ping it by it's host name
[18:24] <Davespice> ping myraspberrypi
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[18:25] <Davespice> sudo apt-get install samba winbind
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[18:25] <bin_bash> lel wrong window
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[18:25] <Davespice> your school network security my prevent this though
[18:25] <Davespice> may*
[18:26] <bin_bash> oh i thought you were trying to install something here lol
[18:26] <axion> "ip monitor"
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[18:26] <bin_bash> I wish there were no children on the internet.
[18:26] <frikinz> I didn't follow why the dhclient hook doesn't work?
[18:26] <axion> it would
[18:27] <frikinz> ok :)
[18:27] <axion> just not very familiar with it myself
[18:27] <Datalink> I'm not either...
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[18:27] <frikinz> I think its just a shell script? get the ip with ip addr show wlan0 and pipe that somewhere?
[18:27] <axion> the few scripts i saw on google pertaining to it seemed promising, but i dont have a way to test
[18:28] <frikinz> I have one, for samba
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[18:29] <axion> SMB ha
[18:29] <frikinz> shell script, nothing particular. there's a variable REASON I guess its in the man page. BOUND seems good
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[18:29] <Datalink> hard part at the moment is remote storage of the output
[18:29] <frikinz> no idea why I have samba here :)
[18:29] <frikinz> Datalink: pastebinit ?
[18:29] <axion> i use NFS, way less overhead
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[18:30] <Davespice> if you use samba and winbind on the Pi (I assume your school pcs run Windows?) you just open a command prompt window and type "ping raspberrypi" and you'll get a reply message from 10.92.x.y and then you can Putty to that IP address
[18:30] <frikinz> also ddns
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[18:31] <frikinz> but then how to get the link to pastebinit.
[18:31] <bin_bash> or you can leave it at home, use portforwarding, and then ssh from there
[18:31] <bin_bash> that seems easier, no?
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[18:32] <Davespice> bin_bash: that is what I do, but don't forward the default port 22, otherwise you may end up with a brute force guess attack on your hands :)
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[18:32] <bin_bash> Davespice, it would take a computer 3 trillion years to guess my password
[18:33] <bin_bash> so, they can try. :)
[18:33] <Davespice> hehe :)
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[18:33] <Davespice> it might be a fun little project to make a lcd that shows the IP address though
[18:33] <bin_bash> Besides... who gives out their IP address these days?
[18:34] <Davespice> it could go through the DSI connector
[18:34] <bin_bash> It's not like the days of dialup where you could just hang up the phone and then reconnect and bam new ip address
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[18:34] <bin_bash> No, those days are long gone.
[18:34] <artag> you could have a script that flashed the OK led to announce the ip address
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[18:35] <Datalink> frikinz, yeah, the problem is finding the pastebin
[18:35] <Datalink> Davespice, not an option because my computer's SMB is firewalled on my windows machine, it's a big avenue for viruses
[18:36] <Datalink> for SMB that is
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[18:36] <Datalink> I do have a display but no knowledge of how to write to it
[18:36] <bin_bash> lolwindows
[18:37] <megaproxy> i wonder how well magento would do being hosted on a pi
[18:37] <megaproxy> :P
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[18:37] <Davespice> Datalink: so are you running the pi on a cross over cable from your windows pc then?
[18:37] <Datalink> Davespice, wifi USB dongle
[18:38] <Datalink> cause it's kinda a bitch to share wifi in 7
[18:38] <Davespice> I think you may be able to get away without samba actually, as it's the winbind daemon which tells the windows network what ip addresses belong to what names
[18:38] <Vlad> dhcp client hooks and a script to alert you somehow?
[18:38] <Vlad> got twitter? get it to send you a DM or something
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[18:39] <Vlad> it's not pretty but it'd work
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[18:39] <Davespice> you could always just shut down the samba / winbind daemons after you've got the IP address too?
[18:39] <artag> speak it on the audio port
[18:39] <Vlad> it's a shame you're running linux
[18:39] <Vlad> ah, that's not a bad idea artag
[18:39] <Datalink> artag, doing that currently...
[18:40] <Vlad> not running linux* that was meant to be
[18:40] <Datalink> Vlad, I don't want to use a public micropost site
[18:40] * Datalink looks into gdrive
[18:40] <Vlad> but it wouldn't be public
[18:40] <Vlad> i said DM
[18:40] <Vlad> but fair enough
[18:40] <Vlad> google drive or dropbox would work too
[18:40] <bin_bash> lel gdrive
[18:41] <bin_bash> i hope you don't expect any privacy!
[18:41] <bin_bash> get a vps
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[18:41] <Vlad> it's an rfc1918 IP address he's sharing
[18:41] <Vlad> what's the privacy worry?
[18:41] <bin_bash> It's google.
[18:41] <bin_bash> they scan all your data and shit
[18:42] <Vlad> ...oh no?
[18:42] <artag> if you can put a script in the pi that pings your windows pc, you should find it's ip in the pc's arp cache
[18:42] <Vlad> what is the windows pc isn't on a static ip though
[18:42] <artag> does it have a dns name ?
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[18:42] <Datalink> artag, school network...
[18:42] <neilr> Right then. Onto important matters. I now have a video of elite calling me a clumsy pillock after crashing into the station at Lave.
[18:43] <neilr> Only thing is, it's a 55M .mov file
[18:43] <artag> Datalink: yeah, but it will have a name, won't it ?
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[18:43] <artag> whereas you might not be able to get to twitter
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[18:43] <as001> Hi I have quick question. Can omxplayer load subtitle for movie and how ?
[18:43] <Datalink> meh, I just need PHP code that'll let me pop a bit of code up... but I'm like... 3 years rusty on PHP
[18:44] <lord4163> Can I connect my pi with that yellow cable to my TV?
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[18:44] <Datalink> lord4163, yes, that's what the RCA connector is for, it won't be high resolution but usable
[18:45] <nid0> I dont understand the complication here, you just want the pi to let you know its ip, whats wrong with a delayed init script and an emailed output of ifconfig?
[18:45] <Datalink> nid0, I know e-mail's blocked by school network
[18:45] <artag> is there anything on the school network that's public ? a printer, perhaps ?
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[18:46] <neilr> plug your headphones in and use the script to pipe the output to festival
[18:46] <Datalink> artag, yeah, but then I'd feel bad about using that much paper
[18:46] <lord4163> thx
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[18:46] <Datalink> blah, I just need to hunt for php code to save a value...
[18:46] <Datalink> or ssh into my server... something to record the actual IP
[18:46] <nid0> $ip = $GET_['ip'];
[18:46] <neilr> echo | hostname -I | festival --tts
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[18:47] <Datalink> neilr, you don't need the echo
[18:47] <nid0> $ip = $_GET['ip'];*
[18:47] <Datalink> nid0, yeah, I know that part... it's the 'save to server' I'm derping on... I don't wanna go fancy enough to have a MySQL table for this
[18:48] <Datalink> and I'm rustier on sqlite3
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[18:48] <nid0> $file = fopen('ip.txt);frwite($file, $ip);
[18:49] <Datalink> nid0, yeah, probably simple enough to use that method... means setting file permissions... but that's acceptable
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[18:50] <Gadgetoid> Still there, TAFB?
[18:51] <Datalink> nid0, heh actually, thank you, I was overthinking it XD
[18:51] <Datalink> now to write curl shell scripting to post the hostname -I data
[18:52] <Datalink> er, hostname -i
[18:52] <nid0> dont even need curl, you could just wget with a GET argument being the ip
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[18:56] <akSeya> hello ^^
[18:56] <DarkTherapy> hi
[18:56] <axion> for shell scripting curl > wget
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[18:56] <nid0> for something as simplistic as triggering an url with a single argument, either is perfectly good
[18:56] <nid0> wget's just easier to construct
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[18:57] * dipstick made a script a few years ago that used wget to download porn galleries :P
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[18:57] <axion> its more portable, and sends more useful information to stdout/stderr
[18:58] <dipstick> what is, curl or wget?
[18:58] <axion> curl
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[18:58] <akSeya> folks, is this raspi-config for arch OK? https://github.com/chattama/raspi-config-archlinux or is there another somewhere?
[18:58] <lord4163> a download tool
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[19:02] <antoks> does anyone know if arch-linux for rpi support SCTP? I've tried with my fairly updated (~1.5 month old)raspbian install, but it seems like it doesnt support it =(
[19:02] <axion> https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/lksctp-tools/
[19:03] <antoks> axion: I have lksctp-tools on raspbian too, but all I got from them was that sctp is not supported =(
[19:03] <bin_bash> axion, you linked to the x86_64 repos. that doesn't help him
[19:03] <Datalink> everyone, got it working
[19:04] <axion> its the same for the other repos
[19:04] <Datalink> curl --silent POST "http://site.host/ip.php" --form "ip=`hostname -I`"
[19:04] <antoks> wait, does lksctp-tools actually implement the sockets api for sctp?
[19:04] <axion> also whatever tool you are using needs to be linked against that library
[19:06] <antoks> thanks, I didnt realise it implemented the actual api's!
[19:06] <axion> antoks: i just confirmed on arch linux x86, the kernel has an sctp module that loads fine. however, it seems arch-arm does not have this module built
[19:07] <antoks> axion: with insmod sctp?
[19:07] <axion> modprobe
[19:07] <antoks> sorry, forgot
[19:08] <Datalink> woot, okay this tests out, shows both the wired and wireless IPs
[19:08] <Datalink> meaning I can safely rely on it to show me the IP on the school network
[19:09] <Datalink> next challenge will be automatically logging into McDonalds wifi
[19:10] <dipstick> logging in is easy, automating the webpage clicks is another...
[19:11] <Datalink> believe it or not, I used to be a wizard with curl, I'm just years rusty
[19:11] <axion> especially a javascript call as most are
[19:11] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: http://pi.gadgetoid.co.uk/post/027-live-raspberry-pi-system-stats
[19:11] <Tachyon`> hi, this piface, anyone know if it can be bought?
[19:11] <dipstick> perhaps links can do it?
[19:11] <gordonDrogon> Tachyon`, I have a PiFace (or 2)
[19:12] <Tachyon`> ahh, does it come with the case or is that an extra
[19:12] <gordonDrogon> but since they're selling them via Farnell, then it's anyones guess if the debacle round the previous gertboard is anything to go by )-:
[19:12] <Tachyon`> ah, it's a kit?
[19:12] <gordonDrogon> what case?
[19:12] <Tachyon`> http://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/291441_384995168254826_1780592697_o.jpg
[19:12] <Tachyon`> that one#
[19:13] <gordonDrogon> no - mine were ready assembled. the Rev2 is almost all surface mount and you're really not want to do that by hand.
[19:13] <Tachyon`> well, I have hot air so I can but I wouldn't enjoy it, ll
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[19:13] <gordonDrogon> Hm. interseting, but thats the first time I've seen that case..
[19:13] <Tachyon`> looks similar to the pibow design
[19:13] <gordonDrogon> yea.
[19:13] <Tachyon`> it said sneak preview on the facebook post
[19:14] <gordonDrogon> I'm not on facebook
[19:14] <Tachyon`> perhaps the case and not the interface is what's being previewed
[19:14] <Tachyon`> yes, I'm aware fb is evil, but all my old schoolfriends are on it from like 20 years ago
[19:14] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/piface-mk2/
[19:14] <gordonDrogon> they sent me one because I bought one of the original Mk 1's and write some software for it and did a blog posting...
[19:15] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/piface/
[19:15] <Tachyon`> ah, nice, I can see the whole board
[19:15] <Tachyon`> what are the three groups of three connections down the right for
[19:15] <gordonDrogon> I think I rather pre-empted their announcement of the Mk2 - by a few months!!!
[19:16] <gordonDrogon> relay outpus - no,common/nc
[19:16] <Tachyon`> ahh
[19:16] <Tachyon`> but there's only two relays
[19:16] <gordonDrogon> and external power to the darlingtons .
[19:16] <Datalink> gordonDrogon, I finally got that IP tracker done, I'll probably do a quick writeup to help others later, for now... I can tell where my Pi is when I'm at school, IP wise
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[19:16] <Tachyon`> ah right (darlingtons?)
[19:16] <gordonDrogon> so the little jumper top-right selects Pi's 5V power or external power.
[19:16] <gordonDrogon> uln2803 == darlingtons
[19:16] <gordonDrogon> Datalink, sounds good!
[19:17] <Tachyon`> are they mosfets?
[19:17] <Tachyon`> never heard of them
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> it's a uln2803 - google it-
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> it's an IC with 8 open collector darlington drivers in it .
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> the relays are connected to 2 outputs, but all 8 are brought out at the screw terminals.
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> you can un-jumper the relays..
[19:18] <Tachyon`> ah yes, I see the I/O
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[19:19] <Tachyon`> oh, hrm, can drive relays
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[19:21] <gordonDrogon> the uln2803 drives the relays from the on-board GPIO chip.
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> IT does not use the Pi's GPIO, but uses an SPI GPIO expander.
[19:22] <antoks> axion: seems like having lksctp-tools isnt enough
[19:22] <gordonDrogon> and I think that's a bit irritating as it doesn't even give a way to break into the Pi's own GPIO. What a waste.
[19:23] <gordonDrogon> I'm currently playing with another expansion system that does have a proper in/out connector, so I can plug e.g. my ladder board on-top if it...
[19:23] <antoks> it seems to be a package with examples and tools, but to be able to actually use sctp sockets, I need the sctp module =(
[19:23] <axion> antoks: i am not familiar with sctp. perhaps try explaining exactly what it is you're trying to do
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[19:23] <antoks> axion: sctp is a transport layer protocol, similar to udp and tcp.
[19:23] <axion> i gather that much. i never experienced using it before however
[19:24] <antoks> axion: would you mind doing a search for an sctp module on your pi?
[19:25] <antoks> well, Im just trying to use it like TCP, but having it behave UDP like
[19:25] <axion> as i said, there is no module in ther Arch ARM kernel, but you can rebuild the kernel if you want
[19:25] <antoks> oh
[19:26] <antoks> sorry, I must have overlooked that =X
[19:26] <akSeya> folks, how to overclock & overvolt in arch ?
[19:26] <Datalink> gordonDrogon, some day I'll be out of projects then bugging you for criteria for what you'd want in a GPIO board
[19:26] <antoks> well, I guess I'll just use UDP meanwhile
[19:26] <axion> np. i mentioned my x86 box has it and it loads, but not arm
[19:26] <Joeboy> Does anybody happen to know how to reboot a pi in a baremetal fashion? ie. in c/asm without linux syscalls? gordonDrogon maybe?
[19:26] <antoks> thanks for the help axion
[19:26] <antoks> =)
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[19:26] <akSeya> I got a raspi-config tool from https://github.com/chattama/raspi-config-archlinux but cat /proc/cpuinfo still shows BogoMIPS : 697.95
[19:27] <Datalink> akSeya, you can edit the config.txt file, that tool may be out of date
[19:28] <akSeya> Datalink, but that will void the warranty, wont it?
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[19:28] <Datalink> akSeya, not if you have a current firmware and follow the recommended overclock values
[19:29] <Datalink> http://elinux.org/RPiconfig offers some more info
[19:29] <JohnRambozo> has anyone made a power button for the pi?
[19:29] <JohnRambozo> i'm not entirely comfortable yanking the power cord out all the time.
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[19:29] <axion> i know ive seen it done
[19:29] <JohnRambozo> I guess i can unplug it from the wall. heh
[19:30] <akSeya> Warranty will be voided if: (force_turbo || current_limit_override || temp_limit>85) && over_voltage>0
[19:30] <Datalink> JohnRambozo, shutdown -h now... wait for system hault, but the device is safe to unplug otherwise
[19:30] <JohnRambozo> a quick google search didn't get me any results. I could just get more secure case.
[19:30] <BurtyB> adsized, I don't think the bogomips will change.. you can check the max speed in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq
[19:30] <akSeya> I remember that raspi-config overvolted without warranty void
[19:30] <Datalink> akSeya, I'm a tad out of date and never looked into overclock myself
[19:31] <Joeboy> JohnRambozo: I think rev2 boards have reset pins, if that's any help
[19:31] <JohnRambozo> thanks datalink.
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[19:31] <Datalink> JohnRambozo, no problem, you'll need to sudo that
[19:31] <Datalink> sudo shutdown -h now
[19:31] <akSeya> oh
[19:31] <akSeya> Datalink, nevermind
[19:31] <axion> JohnRambozo: A reset button can be attached to the P6 header, with which the Pi can be reset. Momentarily shorting the two pins of P6 together will cause a soft reset of the CPU.
[19:31] <akSeya> raspi-config worked.. turbo mode was enabled
[19:32] <akSeya> that's why bogomips are low
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[19:32] <akSeya> not using it yet :)
[19:32] <Datalink> akSeya, I need to remember to sit on my hands on the turbo stuff, I never use it
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[19:34] <akSeya> actually it's wierd.. raspi-config changed config.txt to arm_freq=1000 core_freq=500 sdram_freq=500 over_voltage=6
[19:34] <axion> that is fine
[19:34] <akSeya> but cpuinfo shows BogoMIPS : 697.95
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[19:34] <axion> right.
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[19:35] <axion> ondemand is in effect
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[19:35] <Datalink> you don't need turbo yet... so it's not using turbo
[19:35] <axion> please read the config.txt document on elinux.org
[19:36] <Datalink> I'd clean that up if I could
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[19:39] <Datalink> JohnRambozo, sudo halt
[19:39] <Datalink> that's also viable for clean shutdown
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[19:45] <JohnRambozo> then there must be some net start or something?
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[19:58] <burek> hi :)
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[19:58] <axion> hello
[20:01] <burek> is there any limitation on the overall usb bandwidth used, when using for example usb wifi dongle and usb webcam (on Raspberry Pi), because I can't properly restream the webcam video, without image distortion (which looks like packet loss issue)
[20:02] <burek> because if i understand correctly, rpi uses only usb, no pci inside, right?
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[20:03] <burek> cpu usage is always below 20% so cpu is not a problem
[20:04] <rikkib> You will be lucky to get streaming stable on the current kernel
[20:04] <burek> why is it so
[20:04] <rikkib> I use motion and a kernel dating back to the 7th month to get a stable system
[20:05] <rikkib> uvc video that is
[20:05] <rikkib> which is what most new web cams use
[20:05] <axion> yes, uvc driver is flaky at best
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[20:05] <burek> but, here is the interesting part
[20:05] <rikkib> uvc driver does not work
[20:06] <rikkib> if that is flaky
[20:06] <burek> when i just save the stream in the file, without further restreaming, the video is awesome
[20:06] <burek> the same thing happens on arm tablets, with debian installed instead of android
[20:06] <rikkib> How long have you run the tests for?
[20:06] <Datalink> burek, the closest thing the Pi has to a PCI bus is the USB hub/ethernet chip
[20:07] <Datalink> which is on a USB bus itself, and does have to send data through the CPU
[20:07] <burek> rikkus, i think for a minute or two
[20:07] <buZz> burek: raspi's USB driver is still a mess
[20:07] <axion> rikkib: on x86 it is flaky. havent used it on arm
[20:07] <burek> buZz i've read about that, and honestly im suspecting that might have be an issue :/
[20:08] <burek> -have
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[20:08] <buZz> i have a cubieboard underway, that supposedly has a lot better USB support
[20:08] <tanuva> why do people combine eth and usb-hub into a single chip? I mean, why exactly that combination? oO
[20:09] <buZz> tanuva: because some systems have no eth and one usb host port
[20:10] <buZz> so adding eth would rob you of usb access
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[20:10] <buZz> having a hub there helps gaining new ports
[20:10] <buZz> also 1 chip is cheaper than 2 chips
[20:10] <tanuva> makes sense :)
[20:10] <burek> cubieboard looks promising
[20:10] <burek> i'll try it
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[20:12] <buZz> tanuva: glad i was able to learn you something :)
[20:12] <burek> btw, is there any usb diagnostic tool to make sure that is the source of the problem
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[20:25] <SgrA> I'm using Arch Linux on my Pi (overclocked to 1 GHz and overvolt=6). I was trying to install gnumeric, inkscape with pacman. During the installation of poppler-glib, the system freezed up, I couldn't even SSH in. After half an hour, I reset. Now I have only stuff regarding panic and
[20:25] <SgrA> 'unable to mount root fs on unknown block'
[20:25] <SgrA> Did I manage to get my memory corrupted?
[20:25] <bin_bash> hm. have you tried running fsck
[20:26] <bin_bash> it sounds more like a problem with the sd
[20:26] <Patagonicus> SgrA: Do you have your / on the SD card? I think they tend to get corrupted when overclocked.
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[20:26] <SgrA> Yeah, it said bad superblock. Guess I need a format now?
[20:26] <bin_bash> unable to mount on unknown block is a harddrive thing
[20:27] <SgrA> There I go. Just wanted to make sure there's no other go to save myself an hour. lol
[20:27] <bin_bash> you can try doing an fsck
[20:27] <bin_bash> it could try to repair bad sectors
[20:29] <bin_bash> tbh i would do that before just reformatting
[20:29] <bin_bash> but i'm a masochist :P
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[20:29] <axion> SgrA: whats your power supply's current rating?
[20:29] <axion> ive had problems with that same config with a 1A psu...1.2 fixed it.
[20:29] <axion> SgrA: most likely power issues. also try setting cpu_freq_min=500, over_voltage_min=0 (what i use with those same settings)
[20:30] <SgrA> Mine is a Nokia charger rated for 1.2 A.
[20:31] <axion> also disconnect any usb devices and retry
[20:31] <SgrA> Ah ok
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[20:32] <axion> and ensure turbo_mode=0
[20:32] <axion> err
[20:32] <axion> force_turbo=0
[20:32] <bin_bash> axion, remember how old desktop computers had the turbo button
[20:33] <axion> no
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[20:34] <chris_99> yeah i remember that
[20:34] <artag> hah, yeah
[20:34] <Vanfanel> old PCs where a sorry excuse for a "desktop computers"
[20:34] <bin_bash> chris_99, yes that was awesome. i used to press it and expect awesome things to happen
[20:35] <megaproxy> i used to press it and pretend i was going at light speed
[20:35] <artag> slow / barely faster
[20:35] <bin_bash> megaproxy, YES
[20:35] <axion> actually vaguely
[20:35] <megaproxy> couple it with the old windows screensaver
[20:35] <megaproxy> hurrrmahgerd
[20:35] <bin_bash> megaproxy, ^5 fuck yes
[20:35] <megaproxy> haha
[20:35] <megaproxy> ^5
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[20:36] <chris_99> haha bin_bash, i bet you could add one to computers now, that overclocks them
[20:36] <megaproxy> uhum
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[20:36] <megaproxy> uhoh*
[20:36] <megaproxy> shiftplusone, mebe use a ban msg
[20:36] <megaproxy> so they know why
[20:36] <shiftplusone> he knows
[20:36] <megaproxy> (they should anyway but you never know)
[20:36] <megaproxy> yea hes just pmed me haha
[20:36] <shiftplusone> we don't ban without warning
[20:36] <axion> yesterday he trolled and polluted the channel with swears
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[20:37] <megaproxy> ah ok
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[20:37] <megaproxy> he did what ive done before
[20:37] <megaproxy> forget what chan your in
[20:37] <axion> and i didnt know you were an op shiftplusone :)
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[20:38] <bin_bash> Sorry everyone.
[20:38] <shiftplusone> axion, I am a stealth ninja op.
[20:38] <axion> thought ReggieUK was the only one :)
[20:38] <rikkib> haha
[20:38] <shiftplusone> nope, there are a few more mods than that.
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[20:39] <axion> ah nice to know
[20:39] <megaproxy> im toats a mod
[20:39] <bin_bash> heh
[20:39] * megaproxy mods all the things
[20:39] <bin_bash> chris_99, your idea about an overclock button is actually a good one.
[20:39] <rikkib> Thou shalt not swear... As a Ham radio op I know the value of self control...
[20:39] <bin_bash> I wonder how that would work though.
[20:39] <megaproxy> hams!
[20:39] <megaproxy> i always wanted to get into ham
[20:39] <megaproxy> but it costs money
[20:39] <megaproxy> and you need to get a license n stuffs
[20:39] <TAFB> i can't believe how much of a tank this Pi is running at 1ghz on a wireless link. 20 hours uptime without even a lost packet over wireless :)
[20:40] <axion> TAFB: :)
[20:40] <bin_bash> TAFB, that's pretty good. which wireless adapter are you using?
[20:40] <axion> like i said, i was on 43...now 44 days with that config :)
[20:40] <TAFB> bin: http://www.canadacomputers.com/product_info.php?cPath=27_1048_1053&item_id=050682
[20:40] <megaproxy> ohhhh TAFB was it you that linked me to the httpd guide?
[20:40] <megaproxy> i think it was called pancake..
[20:40] <bin_bash> nice. let me find the one i just boguht
[20:41] <TAFB> yep, pancake
[20:41] <axion> yes he's the pancake dude
[20:41] <TAFB> and one for citadel
[20:41] <megaproxy> awesome
[20:41] * axion googles
[20:41] <megaproxy> im going to try set something up with pancake
[20:41] <TAFB> bin: I had to do some soldering to get that TP-Link to work, was drawing too much power.
[20:41] <megaproxy> kinda tempted to download and put wikipedia on it
[20:41] <megaproxy> :D
[20:43] <megaproxy> this tv show looks like its going to be good :D
[20:43] <megaproxy> "survivors"
[20:43] <rikkib> megaproxy, What country? Many do not require morse and test are multi choice and second hand radios and a bit of wire.
[20:44] <megaproxy> im in UK
[20:44] <megaproxy> there is a radio guy round the corner
[20:44] <megaproxy> i only know because of the HUGGGGE arials in h is garden
[20:44] <rikkib> no doubt a club close by
[20:44] <megaproxy> also apologies for my spelling.
[20:44] * megaproxy is dyslexic
[20:44] <rikkib> my to
[20:44] <rikkib> haha
[20:45] <rikkib> Stroke survivor to be exact
[20:45] <megaproxy> oooh ...
[20:45] <megaproxy> nasty
[20:45] <TAFB> I'm a little dyslexic after my car accident: http://tafb.xxx/accident
[20:45] <rikkib> When I typed my to... That was not on purpose
[20:45] <shiftplusone> ...I am just bad at spelling. But damn that looks brutal.
[20:46] <TAFB> forgot to put *warning* on the front of that link. use caution if you have a weak stomach
[20:46] <megaproxy> bro i want a .xxx domain
[20:46] <megaproxy> i could get one through work for super cheap...
[20:46] <TAFB> they are hard to get, you need to make a fake porno company.
[20:47] <TAFB> after you register the domain, you have to put in a special key and they actually call you and check your website out, make sure you're a porn company.
[20:47] <rikkib> In 2005 I could not walk, talk, write, basically on another planet for a few weeks
[20:47] <megaproxy> ohmygod
[20:47] <megaproxy> that scab
[20:47] <TAFB> I had to answer my cell phone "Pete's Porn Palace. Pete speaking" for a week!
[20:47] <bin_bash> wow that's terrible
[20:47] <megaproxy> D=
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[20:47] <TAFB> mega: It's a skin graft actually ;)
[20:47] <megaproxy> still
[20:47] <megaproxy> it looks so gnarly
[20:47] <TAFB> the green/yellow stuff is just packing holding my brain in while they had the bone out
[20:47] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: did you get the linky to the guide for Pi stats?
[20:47] <megaproxy> ohgod
[20:48] <megaproxy> its like a horror movie!
[20:48] <megaproxy> haha
[20:48] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Oh hey. I'm tarring the quake 3 folder. Gonna send it to you and see if it runs
[20:48] <megaproxy> well, congratulations in surviving :|
[20:48] <TAFB> Gadgetoid: I did not, I just got back from knee surgery :(
[20:48] <TAFB> ParkerR: That'd be sweet
[20:48] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: I quickly threw this together: http://pi.gadgetoid.co.uk/post/027-live-raspberry-pi-system-stats
[20:48] <TAFB> I'll need a lil help untarring too if it dun open in file manager in X :)
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[20:48] <Gadgetoid> Even if you don't use Ruby, you could lift the system commands from it
[20:49] <megaproxy> people. Buys hosting off me.
[20:49] <megaproxy> :D
[20:49] <megaproxy> i am saddened that rpi site is hosted on webfusion
[20:49] <megaproxy> we are mortal enemies :D
[20:49] <TAFB> thanks a ton Gadget, I'll give it a whirl :) Do you think I can make it spit out CPU temp, speed, voltage? I know the /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp thingies
[20:49] <shiftplusone> megaproxy, do you sell domain names?
[20:49] <megaproxy> yes
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[20:50] <megaproxy> any particular type?
[20:50] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: that should be pretty straight forward
[20:50] <rikkib> http://www.bencom.co.nz:8081/
[20:50] <rikkib> my skin graft
[20:50] <rikkib> my leg
[20:50] <TAFB> wow, nice scar
[20:50] <axion> TAFB: you can use watch to watch them all
[20:51] <megaproxy> are you all broken?
[20:51] <TAFB> axion: I want to stream it live, to my web page
[20:51] <shiftplusone> .com (looking to move away from godaddy)
[20:51] <megaproxy> i think the worst scar i have is either my chin
[20:51] <megaproxy> or my eye
[20:51] <JohnRambozo> what are we looking at?
[20:51] <megaproxy> shiftplusone, ah yea ofc
[20:51] <TAFB> shift: Ethical problem with godaddy?
[20:51] <Gadgetoid> my skin graft was taken from just above my leg, owie
[20:51] <megaproxy> well to move to us, you pay a years renewal and we extend the expiery
[20:51] <megaproxy> so its *kinda* free?
[20:51] <shiftplusone> TAFB, pretty much.
[20:51] <megaproxy> www.vidahost.com or www.tsohost.com
[20:51] <TAFB> shift: hear ya there.
[20:51] <megaproxy> both brands = us :D
[20:51] <megaproxy> UK based
[20:52] <rikkib> hmmm bad light
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[20:52] <megaproxy> i need a workshop :(
[20:52] <nid0> fwiw raspberrypi.org isnt hosted by webfusion, so you can be happy
[20:52] <Joeboy> Gadgetoid: Hi there
[20:52] <Gadgetoid> Joeboy: watcha!
[20:52] <megaproxy> nid0 their download bandwith is
[20:53] <shiftplusone> megaproxy, what about privacy options? I like that whois currently doesn't show my address.
[20:53] <rikkib> Thats better... Mug shot for you
[20:53] <megaproxy> shiftplusone, ill give you that for free
[20:53] <shiftplusone> rikkib, is that running off a pi?
[20:53] <rikkib> Yes running motion
[20:54] <shiftplusone> nice
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[20:54] <rikkib> and running motion on my web server
[20:54] <rikkib> web server is this machine I am sitting in front of
[20:54] <rikkib> x86
[20:54] <rikkib> pc
[20:54] <rikkib> gateway
[20:54] <rikkib> linux
[20:55] <megaproxy> wana see my real bad h ome server rack?
[20:55] <megaproxy> http://imgur.com/a/eBoUc
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[20:55] <TAFB> Ruby is a language... like say PHP?
[20:55] <rikkib> haha
[20:55] <ParkerR_> TAFB, 74 MB http://withg.org/parkerlreed/quake3.tar.gz
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[20:56] <TAFB> *downloadin*
[20:56] <TAFB> I'll have to increase my GPU split from 16mb ;)
[20:56] <rikkib> There is my PC
[20:56] <megaproxy> here is a work cab that i cabled: http://i.imgur.com/qgfSG.jpg
[20:56] <rikkib> open to the world :)
[20:56] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Yeah I have mine at 128. 64mb also works fine
[20:57] <rikkib> spare hdd hangin out
[20:57] <TAFB> parker: I'll try 128 for now :) Good test for my overclockin.
[20:58] <TAFB> Parker: after I unzip it, what do I type to run it? And it'll be OK in /tmp?
[20:58] <ParkerR_> TAFB, After its done. tar -zxvf quake3.tar.gz then cd release-linux-arm then sudo chown parker /dev/input/* then ./ioquake3.arm
[20:58] <ParkerR_> Gaah
[20:58] <ParkerR_> Change parker to your username
[20:58] <ParkerR_> Typed it out of habit
[20:58] <axion> -z is un-ndeeded these days
[20:59] <TAFB> thanks Parker, I'll give it a whirl :)
[20:59] <ParkerR_> The chown is because of the mouse
[20:59] <rikkib> Enough of the camera stuff... Have to get on with the day... My sister is getting married today.
[20:59] <ParkerR_> SDL complains if running something as user and it doesn't own the mouse
[21:00] <axion> if using udev, add your user to the correct group. for systemd based installs, its a bit different
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[21:01] <ParkerR_> axion, I could do udev. I just found it funny that even if the user is on the input group it still doesnt have full permissions to the mouse
[21:01] <BurtyB> ah so you're a paragon man megaproxy ;)
[21:02] <megaproxy> i am!
[21:02] <megaproxy> you know of us?
[21:02] <BurtyB> megaproxy, yeah the wonders of WHC
[21:02] <megaproxy> awesome :D
[21:02] <axion> ParkerR_: you just create a udev rule
[21:02] <megaproxy> im not a member there :(
[21:02] <megaproxy> not a huge forum fan
[21:02] <megaproxy> but Adam etc post there a lot
[21:03] * megaproxy is Doug
[21:03] <ParkerR_> axion, Laziness :P
[21:03] <axion> everytime it is created it will have the permissions you want
[21:03] <TAFB> does Midori not show you a percentage bar for the file it's downloading?!?
[21:03] <axion> its easier :p
[21:03] <bin_bash> ew midori
[21:03] <axion> TAFB: iirc its the address bar itself. but yeah, ewww
[21:04] <TAFB> ohhhhhh, i thought it was multi tasking, I went to some other sites after I told it to downlod :)
[21:04] <ParkerR_> Haha
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[21:05] <BurtyB> megaproxy, ah I'm ex othello now astutium for my sins...
[21:06] <ParkerR_> I love my .bashrc http://i.imgur.com/yxAbG.png
[21:06] <megaproxy> isnt othello a game.
[21:06] <TAFB> had to use Dillo to download it, workin sweet now
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[21:06] <bin_bash> lol
[21:06] <axion> TAFB: check out xombrero
[21:06] * tomfooIery is now known as megaproxy
[21:06] <ParkerR_> bin_bash, How fitting of a name :P
[21:07] <TAFB> axion: added to my list of ish to check out
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[21:08] <shiftplusone> tomfooIery, ordering the transfer now.
[21:08] <bin_bash> ParkerR_, heh yeah. my bot is bin_zsh
[21:08] * ParkerR_ still wants a framebuffer web browser with javascript support
[21:09] <ParkerR_> Is it too much to ask :(
[21:09] <TAFB> unzipping quake3...
[21:09] <ParkerR_> bin_bash, Heh
[21:09] <ParkerR_> Ahh good ole zsh
[21:09] <ParkerR_> Used that for a bit
[21:10] <axion> ParkerR_: directfb
[21:10] <ParkerR_> TAFB, I left the demo paks in there, so its ready to play
[21:10] <axion> gtk can be linked against it instead of X
[21:10] <ParkerR_> axion, No I have framebuffer working. Just haven't found a framebuffer web browser with javascript support
[21:10] <TAFB> Parker: chown parker /dev/input/*
[21:10] <ParkerR_> Oh hmm
[21:10] <TAFB> is that the right command?
[21:10] <ParkerR_> TAFB, chown username /dev/input/*
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[21:11] <shiftplusone> megaproxy, your site is trying to charge me VAT D=
[21:11] <TAFB> ahhh chown pi /dev/input/*
[21:11] <nid0> shiftplusone: it will, and you'll have to pay it unless you're EU vat registered
[21:11] <ParkerR_> axion, I haven't seen any decent tutorials for it
[21:11] <TAFB> chown: changing ownership of `/dev/input/mice': Operation not permitted
[21:12] <ParkerR_> Not much love for framebuffer
[21:12] <ParkerR_> TAFB, sudp
[21:12] <ParkerR_> *sudo
[21:12] <TAFB> ahhh
[21:12] <TAFB> worked ;)
[21:12] <ParkerR_> :)
[21:12] <ParkerR_> Now ./ioquake3.arm
[21:12] <shiftplusone> nid0, hmm
[21:13] <nid0> shiftplusone: hosts and domain registrars provide electronic services in the country they operate, ie the UK in this case, where you are is irrelevant for VAT reasons
[21:13] <TAFB> does it run right from the shell (no x)?
[21:13] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Yes
[21:13] <shiftplusone> ?1.50? An outrage! =P
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[21:13] <TAFB> k. I tried to run it in X terminal *can't run quake with x11* :)
[21:14] <axion> ParkerR_: framebuffer suport for gtk was dropped slightly before the v3 release. you'l have to recompile a lot of image libraries and such to use an older version.
[21:14] <ParkerR_> Ahh
[21:14] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Haha yeah exit X
[21:15] <ParkerR_> It needs all that it can get
[21:15] <TAFB> I can't, I'm in by VNC :) I'll move my Pi to my mouse/keyboard/monitor and try it that way :)
[21:15] <ParkerR_> Heh
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[21:16] <axion> ParkerR_: http://luorhino2006.wordpress.com/2010/04/02/build-webkit-over-pango-cairo-and-directfb-from-scratch/
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[21:17] <axion> see you next month
[21:17] <ParkerR_> axion, I was gonna say
[21:17] <ParkerR_> That one heck of a command list
[21:18] <axion> i'm doing something similar....started compiling last week
[21:18] <ParkerR_> *That's
[21:19] <axion> when my rpi distro is done i'll let you know. but i cant promise anything :)
[21:19] <ParkerR_> Heh
[21:20] <ParkerR_> netsurf is great (and does the best rendering I have seen) but no javascript
[21:20] <TAFB> how do you exit x/lxde and get back to the shell?
[21:21] <axion> ive done some x-less gui custom linux systems in the past....but its been a while
[21:21] <ParkerR_> Switch to another tty, login, and sudo killall Xorg
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[21:21] <axion> right now focusing on the mebdded toolchain (uclibc instead of glibc)
[21:21] <TAFB> Parker: english?
[21:22] <axion> ctrl+alt+F1
[21:22] <axion> ctrl+c
[21:22] <TAFB> thx :)
[21:22] <viric> ctrl-esc, and use the menus.
[21:24] <TAFB> Parker: When I ./ioquake3.arm my Pi reboots :(
[21:25] <mikey_w> Is there a usable android image with the android marketplace?
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[21:27] <JohnRambozo> I found this mikey_w: http://androidpi.wikia.com/wiki/Android_Pi_Wiki
[21:27] <shiftplusone> Looks like megaproxy took my money and ran off D=
[21:27] <mikey_w> ok, I'll try it, thanks.
[21:27] <JohnRambozo> that dirty son of a...
[21:28] <JohnRambozo> i just ordered two cards.. I think i'll try a berryboot multiloader and an android image.
[21:29] <axion> shiftplusone: want his hostmask? lol
[21:29] <shiftplusone> heh
[21:29] <ParkerR_> TAFB, D:
[21:30] <TAFB> yeah, right after "found QKEY" poof, reboot
[21:30] <ParkerR_> I have no clue
[21:30] <axion> TAFB: memory split?
[21:30] <axion> \
[21:30] <ParkerR_> Maybe it's missing a library from building
[21:30] <TAFB> 128mb, I'll double check
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[21:30] <megaproxy> wat
[21:30] <megaproxy> shiftplusone, im back!
[21:31] <TAFB> yep, mem split is 128mb
[21:31] <shiftplusone> heh, wb
[21:31] <TAFB> I guess I'll just have to go through and compile it myself :(
[21:31] <TAFB> brb, trying my first compile
[21:31] <axion> check the kernel log from last boot
[21:34] <ParkerR_> TAFB, You got the link?
[21:34] <ParkerR_> TAFB, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=18853
[21:34] <TAFB> yep, doing it now
[21:34] <ParkerR_> :D
[21:34] <TAFB> easy cause I can copy and paste commands over vnc
[21:34] <TAFB> http://i.imgur.com/feIeD.gif
[21:35] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Oh and that last line edit is just commenting out that line
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[21:35] <TAFB> the last line says "sudo ./ioquake3.arm"
[21:35] <TAFB> do I need to sudo it?
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[21:36] <JohnRambozo> I would sudo. ;)
[21:36] <TAFB> k. lemme try sudo and see if it still reboots
[21:36] <ParkerR_> TAFB, I think that was only because of the mouse. Wo for me as normal userrks fine
[21:36] <ParkerR_> But worth a shot
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[21:37] <TAFB> it's still doing "sudo apt-get install git gcc build-essential libsdl1.2-dev"
[21:37] <TAFB> when that's done I'll try running it with sudo :)
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[21:37] <JohnRambozo> maybe thats why it rebooted? don't you need that to compile the source?
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[21:38] <TAFB> I was trying a pre-compiles version of the game
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[21:38] <JohnRambozo> oh... never trust a pre-compiled version. ;)
[21:38] <JohnRambozo> maybe it was precompiled for an old pi?
[21:39] <ParkerR_> JohnRambozo, Naah I just compled it
[21:39] <TAFB> not sure, Parker compiled it I think. Not sure if he's got sloppy Pi or new tight Pi
[21:39] <ParkerR_> *compiled it
[21:39] <ParkerR_> Last night
[21:39] <ParkerR_> 512mb
[21:39] <TAFB> me too
[21:39] <TAFB> china edition?
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[21:39] <ParkerR_> Hmm?
[21:39] <TAFB> Made in China or UK?
[21:40] <ParkerR_> I think UK
[21:40] <TAFB> you bastard
[21:40] <JohnRambozo> haha
[21:40] <ParkerR_> How do I check?
[21:40] <JohnRambozo> mine is china too.
[21:40] <TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi_problem_made_in_china.jpg
[21:40] <TAFB> mine has sticker "made in china", but underneath says "Made in UK"?
[21:40] <ParkerR_> Haha
[21:40] <TAFB> lol
[21:40] <JohnRambozo> trust the sticker.
[21:40] <ParkerR_> No sticker here
[21:41] <TAFB> rofl
[21:41] <JohnRambozo> or take the sticker off and everything should run fine.
[21:41] <ParkerR_> Oh shot
[21:41] <ParkerR_> I do have the sticker
[21:41] <ParkerR_> :(
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[21:41] <TAFB> ok, Pi is done cooking, going to exit X and try sudo ./quakewhatever
[21:41] <ParkerR_> I just died a little inside
[21:41] <TAFB> so ctrl-alt-f1 fully exits X right?
[21:41] <ParkerR_> No
[21:42] <ParkerR_> In that terminal run sudo killall Xorg
[21:42] <TAFB> I tried your killall thing, and it said couldn't find xorg
[21:42] <ParkerR_> Make sure Xorg
[21:42] <ParkerR_> and not xorg
[21:42] <TAFB> ahhhh
[21:42] <TAFB> whops
[21:42] <TAFB> brb
[21:42] <TAFB> maybe thats why reboot ;)
[21:42] <ParkerR_> Haha
[21:42] <ParkerR_> Could be
[21:42] <TAFB> just so I'm clear, from the terminal INSIDE X I can run "sudo killall Xorg"?
[21:43] <Gadgetoid> My Pi has that "made in china" sticker, I didn't notice it until someone mentioned it at the local Pi meetup
[21:43] <ParkerR_> I think so
[21:43] <ParkerR_> Or in ctrl alt f1
[21:43] <Gadgetoid> Disappointed that mine didn't come from Wales, might have to buy another
[21:43] <ParkerR_> Gadgetoid, Same here. JUST now noticed it
[21:43] <TAFB> lol. k. I'll do it in ctrl alt f1
[21:43] <TAFB> LOL! SICKERS FOR EVERYONE!
[21:43] <gordonDrogon> oh gosh. is it that time already.
[21:43] <gordonDrogon> where has today gone )-:
[21:43] <TAFB> brb, killing all
[21:44] <ParkerR_> They make that sticker blend so well
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[21:45] <TAFB> ok, when I did sudo killall Xorg at the crtl-alt-f1 terminal, it brought me to a weird silver screen with a blue computer says "raspberrypi" and is asking me to login
[21:45] <Gadgetoid> It's a very discrete sticker
[21:46] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Ok not try ctrl alt f1 and running quake
[21:46] <ParkerR_> *now
[21:46] <TAFB> ok, one moment
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[21:47] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Do it with sudo
[21:47] <ParkerR_> No need to chown then
[21:48] <TAFB> tried, rebooted again. I don't think it's killing X :(
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[21:48] <ParkerR_> Might have to kill whatever login manager it is using
[21:48] <ParkerR_> Might be slim or lightdm
[21:48] <ParkerR_> Not sure
[21:48] <TAFB> maybe I'll set my Pi to not log into X on boot?
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[21:48] <ParkerR_> Never used the premade sd card images
[21:48] <TAFB> mine wasn't pre-made :)
[21:48] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Worth a shot
[21:48] <TAFB> in raspi-config I told it to auto boot into windows
[21:49] <ParkerR_> Gaah
[21:49] <TAFB> k. I'll see if I can un-autoboot it
[21:49] <ParkerR_> "into windows"
[21:49] <ParkerR_> DOnt make me punch you
[21:49] <TAFB> into xwindows
[21:49] <TAFB> lol
[21:50] <biberao> hi
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[21:53] <TAFB> parker: no go. Set it to not boot in to X, booted to the prompt. Logged in, changed to quake3-arm whatever folder and did sudo ./quake3whatever and it still rebooted :(
[21:53] <TAFB> i'ma give compiling a go
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[21:54] <TAFB> my stupid Pi keeps telling my TV to turn on! It's pasma, NOOOO BURN IN! lol
[21:54] <TAFB> plasma
[21:54] <ParkerR_> Heh
[21:54] <ParkerR_> Mines plasma but doesnt burn in too badly
[21:54] <ParkerR_> *Mine's
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[21:55] <TAFB> mine doesn't permenantly burn, but gets super bad "image retention"
[21:55] <ParkerR_> Yeah
[21:55] <ParkerR_> About the same
[21:55] <TAFB> ok, step 2 of compiling quake...
[21:56] <ParkerR_> Editing the build.sh isn't too bad
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[21:57] <frikinz> anything rebooting the pi sounds really bad. after reboot, did you check the kernel log?
[21:57] <TAFB> dunno how to do that Frik :(
[21:58] <TAFB> parker: someone sent me a pre-done build.sh but I lost it :(
[21:58] <frikinz> in /var/log . kern.log. You'd have to catch the correct lines
[21:58] <ParkerR_> TAFB, That was me
[21:58] <bin_bash> rm -rf / --no-preserve-root && reboot
[21:59] <ParkerR_> TAFB, http://withg.org/parkerlreed/build.sh
[21:59] <TAFB> bin-bash: what's that?
[21:59] <ParkerR_> Save to that location and chmod +x build.sh
[21:59] <ParkerR_> TAFB, A joke
[21:59] <TAFB> looked like it
[21:59] <bin_bash> TAFB, it'll erase your entire root directory
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[22:00] <TAFB> my whole Pi is in the root directory
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[22:01] <TAFB> parker: I save build.sh to the "quake3" folder?
[22:01] <TAFB> git clone https://github.com/raspberrypi/quake3.git
[22:01] <TAFB> made a quake3 folder
[22:01] <ParkerR_> Yes
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[22:04] <TAFB> k. done. still "cloning into quake3"
[22:04] <ParkerR_> Ahh
[22:05] <TAFB> shouldn't "BASEQ3_DIR="/home/${USER}/" be BASEQ3_DIR="/home/${USER}/quake3" ?
[22:05] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Just listen to the tutorial :P
[22:06] <ParkerR_> It works, I promise
[22:06] <TAFB> lol
[22:06] <TAFB> alright
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[22:09] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: "make examplename" doesn't work, as far as I can tell
[22:09] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Aha, cd examples/
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[22:11] <Gadgetoid> Ah, no, following issue is still valid: https://github.com/WiringPi/WiringPi/issues/8
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[22:11] <ParkerR_> Wow. Just placing a small heatsink on the cpu lowers it from 44.4 F to 37.9 F
[22:12] <TAFB> niec
[22:12] <TAFB> nice
[22:12] <TAFB> I can't wait till my Pi case/heatsink gets here! http://www.ebay.ca/itm/110984616925
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[22:12] <ParkerR_> Nice
[22:12] <ParkerR_> I saw that case
[22:12] <ParkerR_> Looks nice
[22:13] <TAFB> yeah, with all the finning inside, and the three "heat pipes" that touch the three main chips, should be sweet.
[22:14] <frikinz> Gadgetoid: probably a doc error. gcc -o servo servo.c -lpthread ?
[22:14] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, small issue with that release - if iyu've just pulled it. it will complain about missing -lpthread.
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[22:14] <gordonDrogon> *sigh*
[22:14] <frikinz> :)
[22:14] <gordonDrogon> I'd added in support for the static library again. Don't even know why I bothered with the dynamic one. bah.
[22:14] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: added "piThread.c:(.text+0x78): undefined reference to `pthread_create'"
[22:14] <Gadgetoid> Got* even
[22:15] <gordonDrogon> edit the Makefile and add in -lpthread in the LIBS line.
[22:15] <gordonDrogon> I'm about to push aa new version - probably tomorrow though.
[22:15] <Gadgetoid> Ah, shiny
[22:15] <Gadgetoid> I'm just trying to update some bindings to your current version
[22:15] <frikinz> THE PERL ONE I HOPE! :)
[22:15] <Gadgetoid> The examples don't bother me, but I was reading through the issues on github and wanted to check them out
[22:17] <Gadgetoid> Always with the Perl!
[22:18] <frikinz> I'll try to test it probably beginning next week
[22:19] <frikinz> who's the person on the picture https://github.com/raspberrypi ?
[22:20] <shiftplusone> eben
[22:20] <TAFB> ruby installed (while quake3 is "cloning") :)
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[22:31] * Datalink sorta eyetwitches...
[22:31] <Datalink> datalink@spindrift ~ $ ping spindrift.matc.madison.login\nPING spindrift.matc.madison.login (10.97.150.224) 56(84) bytes of data.
[22:31] <Datalink> SERIOUSLY?
[22:31] <Datalink> I spent days worth of time thinking of this problem and DoiTS does it right...
[22:32] * Datalink falls over
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[22:33] <frikinz> what's DoiTS?
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[22:33] <axion> any chefs in the house?
[22:35] <Datalink> frikinz, a joke masquerading as an IT department
[22:35] <jon1012> yay, my epaper works on raspberry pi :D
[22:35] <Datalink> DoITS is the correct capitalization, Department of Information Technology Systems
[22:35] <jon1012> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yoggq6vCeGQ
[22:35] <Datalink> jon1012, awesome
[22:36] <TAFB> wow, that screen is so clear :)
[22:36] <Datalink> jon1012, how long till you're using it for a shell console? :P
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[22:37] <jon1012> Datalink, that will be for the 6 inch version :p (I plan to make 2, 4 and 6 inch versions)
[22:37] <Datalink> jon1012, nice
[22:37] <Datalink> I have to make my 64x96 OLED work as a framebuffer...
[22:37] <TAFB> john, you need a tripod :)
[22:38] <jon1012> yup
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[22:40] <SpeedEvil> what - eink, you mean?
[22:41] <jon1012> yeah this epaper contains eink pearl technology
[22:41] <jon1012> but eink is a brand :)
[22:41] <ParkerR_> Raspberry Pee :P
[22:42] <Gadgetoid> Perl hurts my brain/
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[22:42] <CelticTurnip> hi all
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[22:43] <ParkerR_> jon1012, Nice job
[22:43] <gordonDrogon> axion, I do a bit of cooking...
[22:43] <frikinz> Gadgetoid: funny, for me its python :) ok the XS part is not my cup of tea
[22:44] <Gadgetoid> I think Python probably breaks my brain, too, I don't use either very often
[22:44] <TAFB> hey Gadget! I have Ruby and "Thin" installed :)
[22:44] <prehensile> Python is Kinder on the old brain meats than perl, I reckon
[22:45] <jon1012> ParkerR_, thanks :)
[22:45] <jon1012> eink isn't that hard, it's just the DC/DC and waveforms part that is tricky
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[22:50] <TAFB> Gadgetoid: What is socket.ru?
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[22:52] <jon1012> gto to go to sleep, good evening
[22:53] <gordonDrogon> OLEDs are lush. I did a project on one a couple of years back. the display looked like a picture postcard..
[22:54] <TAFB> nite nite Jon. dinner time here
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[22:56] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: That would be the rackup file that gets called
[22:56] <TAFB> do I need to create it?
[22:56] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: contains two lines: require './Socket' and run EventMachine
[22:57] <TAFB> ok... making it now :)
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[22:57] <Gadgetoid> I believe you can use rack to run it directly, and avoid using Thin server
[22:57] <Gadgetoid> But Thin is nice!
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[22:58] <TAFB> does './Socket' actually have the ' around it, or in the file is it ./Socket
[22:58] <Gadgetoid> Has the '
[22:58] <TAFB> ahhh, woulda messed that up :)
[22:59] <Gadgetoid> Basically telling it to require Socket.rb in the same folder
[22:59] <TAFB> ok, so in my home/pi/Web folder I have Socket.rb socket.ru and webstats.yml
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[22:59] <Gadgetoid> Obligatory question: Have you installed Ruby? :D
[23:00] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Compiling?
[23:00] <TAFB> I did apt-get install ruby1.9.1
[23:00] <TAFB> and apt-get install thin
[23:00] <Gadgetoid> Aha, nice!
[23:00] <TAFB> Parker: It's still doing "cloning into quake3"
[23:00] <Gadgetoid> Forgot it's all so easy on the latest distros
[23:00] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Umm slwo network? :P
[23:00] <ParkerR_> *slow
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[23:01] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: you may need to use gem to install some dependencies
[23:01] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: gem install em-websocket rack
[23:01] <TAFB> shouldn't be, my internet connection, just tested 10 seconds ago: http://www.speedtest.net/result/2366463222.png
[23:02] <TAFB> Gadget: I just type that at the prompt? :)
[23:02] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: I'm going to hope gem is installed and works, I'm used to using RVM
[23:03] <TAFB> ok, I hope so to :)
[23:03] <TAFB> I changed "address" in webstats.yml to the ip address of my Pi
[23:04] <TAFB> pid: tmp/pids/thin.pid will be ok?
[23:04] <Gadgetoid> Should create that subfolder, iirc
[23:04] <TAFB> ok, one sec
[23:04] <Gadgetoid> Bit messy, but it's nicely contained
[23:04] <frikinz> reminds me that I had to set the pi as a munin node
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[23:05] <TAFB> ok, I made dir /tmp/pids
[23:05] <TAFB> where does thin.pid come from?
[23:06] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: it gets created automagically when the server is run
[23:06] <TAFB> fancy :)
[23:06] <TAFB> are we close to running the server!?
[23:06] <Gadgetoid> Just holds the process ID so it can be shutdown when you restart the server software
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[23:07] <tanuva> has someone tried running jack + hydrogen on the Pi yet?
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[23:07] <Gadgetoid> Your yml file should be dropped into /etc/thin ( I believe! )
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[23:07] <ParkerR_> TAFB, I hate you
[23:07] <TAFB> parker: why? my super awesome 100mbit internet?
[23:08] <ParkerR_> TAFB, YES
[23:08] <TAFB> Gadget, I have no /etc/thin folder, does it get created when I run the server, or should I make it?
[23:08] <TAFB> Parker: lol. I'm just super sad my upload is 2mbps :(
[23:08] <Gadgetoid> I love how 100mbit internet in the UK actually means you get about 2 or 3 mbit if you're lucky, but usually it just doesn't work at all...
[23:08] <ParkerR_> My best. Did it in the morning http://speedtest.net/result/1883579683.png
[23:08] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: could be elsewhere, try "service thin start" at the command line and see what happens
[23:09] <TAFB> that ping time is horrible Parker. I hope you don't voip!
[23:09] <ParkerR_> Umm
[23:09] <TAFB> Gadget: Oh no! Here it goes.
[23:09] <ParkerR_> 77 is not terrible
[23:09] <TAFB> lol. I get worried when mine is about 9 to pretty much any server in my country :)
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[23:10] <ParkerR_> My ISP must have boosted me a little http://www.speedtest.net/result/2366476963.png
[23:10] <ParkerR_> I normally get around 1.8mB/s
[23:10] <TAFB> nice :) you got faster upload than me
[23:11] <TAFB> mine is throttled right at 2mbps on the button
[23:11] <SpeedEvil> divide those numbers by 10, and you've got mine
[23:11] <TAFB> Gadget: ran the command, no errors, just dropped back at the prompt
[23:11] <SpeedEvil> well, except for ping
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[23:12] <TAFB> lol Speed, you'll have to change your name ;)
[23:12] <TAFB> "DialupEvil"
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[23:12] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: sounds promising!
[23:12] <TAFB> ohhhhhh yay
[23:12] <TAFB> still have no "thin" folder in etc.
[23:13] <TAFB> want me to make it and move my yml file there?
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[23:14] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: you could try just: thin start -C webstats.yml
[23:14] <TAFB> okies, i'll giver er a go (from the folder with webstats I assume).
[23:15] <TAFB> starting server on 192.168.1.95:8070 ...
[23:15] <Gadgetoid> Aye aye!
[23:15] <TAFB> then back at prompt
[23:16] <Gadgetoid> Curious, might want to poke at that port and see if it says hello
[23:16] <TAFB> how do I poke ports?
[23:16] <TAFB> poke 192.168.1.95:8070?
[23:16] <chris_99> what do you mean by poke, connect to?
[23:17] <Gadgetoid> chris_99: Something like that, yes
[23:17] <chris_99> you can use netcat
[23:17] <TAFB> netcat on the Pi?
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[23:17] <chris_99> sure
[23:17] <chris_99> why not?
[23:17] <TAFB> lol
[23:18] <TAFB> netcat 192.168.1.95 8070
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[23:18] <TAFB> just leaves me on a blank line, sitting there
[23:19] <chris_99> type some stuff
[23:19] <chris_99> what are you connecting to
[23:19] <frikinz> netcat -vv
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[23:19] <TAFB> Connection to 192.168.1.95 8070 port [tcp/*] succeeded!
[23:20] <TAFB> if I type hello and hit enter, it returns me to the shell prompt
[23:20] <frikinz> not very polite
[23:20] <Gadgetoid> I suspect the server is running, due to the lack of errors
[23:20] <TAFB> sweet
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[23:20] <Gadgetoid> Probably worth moving on to the Javascript/HTML side of things!
[23:20] <TAFB> you're going to have to make an addition yor stats page, Ruby noob walkthrough intro :)
[23:21] <TAFB> is there a page 2? I see no Javascript/HTML part..
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[23:23] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: I didn't add that stuff to the guide, but the lions share of it is here: http://pi.gadgetoid.co.uk/code/websocket.txt
[23:23] <TAFB> wowzers
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[23:24] <Gadgetoid> Yeah I've overcomplicated the javascript somewhat! It relies on jQuery also
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[23:25] <Gadgetoid> Basically opens a connection to the websockets server, polls it periodically for stats, decodes them from json and updates some HTML goodness
[23:26] <TAFB> I'll see if I can work from it. Can we just do somethign super simple that'll just spit out say the CPU load number, just once, text, on a page?
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[23:28] <Gadgetoid> TAFB: updated with a simpler example
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[23:29] <TAFB> ohhhh, that looks better :)
[23:29] <TAFB> k. One sec, I'll give er a go
[23:30] <Gadgetoid> I tested it, just to be sure, it should look like this: http://pi.gadgetoid.co.uk/code/websocket.html
[23:30] <TAFB> fancy! I'm go giddy... going to try it, one sec.
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[23:33] <TAFB> I'm using: ws = new WebSocket("ws://192.168.1.95:8070/websocket");
[23:33] <TAFB> and the computer I'm running the HTML file on is on the same network, but the page is just blank :(
[23:34] <TAFB> is the /websocket part right?
[23:34] <TAFB> didn't I call mine webstats?
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[23:35] <Gadgetoid> Should be the same, as far as I know
[23:35] <Gadgetoid> You might want to check the tmp subfolder for error logs
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[23:36] <Gadgetoid> I suspect the Ruby script is failing on some dependencies
[23:36] <TAFB> hmm. could be blocking the .js cause I'm running it local, off my hard drive. one sec.
[23:36] <TAFB> oh :)
[23:36] <TAFB> in /tmp/pids ?
[23:36] <TAFB> folder is empty
[23:37] <Gadgetoid> Would seem like thin is failing then :D
[23:37] <TAFB> lol
[23:38] <TAFB> ahh, there is /home/pi/Web/tmp/pids
[23:39] <TAFB> thin.8070.pid
[23:39] <TAFB> the pid file only says inside: 3241
[23:40] <Gadgetoid> You should have a process running with that ID then, seems like everything is in order
[23:40] <Gadgetoid> Try: ps -aux | grep 8070
[23:40] <TAFB> warning: bad ps syntax, perhaps a bogus '-'?
[23:41] <TAFB> pi 3241 0.2 2.0 16200 8040 ? Sl 17:15 0:03 thin server (192.168.1.95:8070)
[23:41] <TAFB> pi 3280 0.0 0.2 3540 808 pts/2 S+ 17:40 0:00 grep --color=auto 8070
[23:41] <Gadgetoid> Looks like it's running, then!
[23:42] <Gadgetoid> First world problems: Neon Genesis Evangelion action figures are hard to come by!
[23:42] <TAFB> i guess I can forward 8070 in my router to it, and actually upload the file.
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[23:42] <TAFB> you can even test your code with my IP ;)
[23:43] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Given up on quake3? :P
[23:43] <TAFB> Perker, still cloning ;)
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[23:43] <ParkerR_> Umm
[23:43] <ParkerR_> The clone didnt take that long
[23:43] <ParkerR_> What percentage?
[23:43] <TAFB> no percent displayed
[23:43] <ParkerR_> Umm
[23:43] <TAFB> it's using cpu tho :)
[23:43] <ParkerR_> Ohhhhh
[23:43] <ParkerR_> What command di you use?
[23:43] <ParkerR_> *did
[23:44] <TAFB> git clone https://github.com/raspberrypi/quake3.git
[23:44] <ParkerR_> Hmm
[23:44] <ParkerR_> It SHOULD have a percentage
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[23:44] <TAFB> lol
[23:45] <TAFB> Gadget: Port is forward, uploding HTML for test.
[23:45] <frikinz> I wonder if git protocol is not quicker
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[23:46] <frikinz> git clone git://github.com ..
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[23:47] <Gadgetoid> This. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Revoltech-Production-Perfect-Edition-Figure/dp/B007JCUDZ4/
[23:47] <TAFB> Gadget: still no go: ("ws://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8070/websocket")
[23:48] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Umm that clone should take like a max of 10 seconds
[23:48] <ParkerR_> http://shelr.tv/records/50c7b8b396608003e4000037
[23:48] <TAFB> start it again Parker?
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[23:48] <ParkerR_> Try it
[23:48] <frikinz> TAFB: try the git protocol
[23:48] <TAFB> Parker: worked this time, got numbers, percentages
[23:49] <TAFB> complete :)
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[23:49] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Weird
[23:49] <TAFB> i'll continue with quake3 after I have my webstats thing working ;)
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[23:53] <Gadgetoid> Aha TAFB, have you got some memcached stuff in the socket.rb file?
[23:53] <TAFB> lemme look in socket.rb
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[23:54] <TAFB> socket.rb is actually Socket.rb, is that a problem?
[23:54] <Gadgetoid> No that's fine, I'm just being imprecise
[23:54] <TAFB> require 'em-websocket'
[23:54] <TAFB> require 'memcache'
[23:54] <TAFB> CACHE = MemCache.new 'localhost:5678'
[23:55] <Gadgetoid> Try swapping it out for this: http://pi.gadgetoid.co.uk/code/Socket.rb
[23:55] <TAFB> I downloaded your file from here, unmolested: http://pi.gadgetoid.co.uk/code/Socket.rb
[23:55] <Gadgetoid> The MemCache stuff isn't essential
[23:55] <TAFB> ok, one sec.
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[23:56] <Gadgetoid> Just adds unnecessary complexity
[23:57] <TAFB> k. done. now what?
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[23:58] <TAFB> are vmstat and df built in Wheezy stuff?
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