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IRC Log for 2012-12-14

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[0:00] <TAFB> ok, i'm going to eat dinner and go play with berryboot :) be back in a few
[0:00] <TAFB> yummm lasagna
[0:00] <rikkib> Hmmm have no got enough time to put stuff on my web site for you...
[0:01] <TAFB> no problem rikkib, any time is fine, concentrate on what'll make you money right now :)
[0:01] <rikkib> Sure
[0:02] <rikkib> The tricky part for you will be motion config if you use that
[0:02] * jthunder (~jthunder@184.151.222.78) Quit (Quit: jthunder)
[0:02] <TAFB> for him to see the image of the person at his gate?
[0:02] <rikkib> No the cam is the other client
[0:03] <rikkib> the recycle fcatory
[0:03] <TAFB> ahh, so with some no-name brand cam it could be tricky
[0:03] <prehensile> I'm pretty sure there's a utility in the apt repos for doing capture on motion from a cam
[0:03] <rikkib> Gather as much info as you can on the cam
[0:03] <Joeboy> Does anybody know if raspbian / any other distro comes with sshd enabled? I don't have a suitable monitor.
[0:04] * zyoung (~zyoung@wsip-68-106-159-26.hr.hr.cox.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
[0:04] <Joeboy> or telnet
[0:04] <rikkib> They have two modes usually
[0:04] <prehensile> joeboy: recent raspbian does
[0:04] <rikkib> jpg cap and hd streaming
[0:04] <axion> arch does
[0:04] <TAFB> rikkib: he doesn't have a cam so I can sell him a cam, I have one here I would like to sell him. I can set it up on the internet for you as a test.
[0:05] <rikkib> Thats OK
[0:05] <Joeboy> prehensile: set up at first boot? I won't be able to set it up manually...
[0:05] <rikkib> Got to do this job and move cam
[0:05] <TAFB> rikkib: This cam is supposed to support jpg image refresh, if you go to this url (will only work for me right now): like http://192.168.1.128:8000/cgi-bin/net_jpeg.cgi?ch=0
[0:05] <Joeboy> prehensile: 'prehensile' is an excellent word, btw
[0:05] <TAFB> every time you click refresh in the browser = new image
[0:05] <TAFB> ok, do good rikkib
[0:06] <prehensile> joeboy: yup, I'm in the middle of setting up a pi this evening which I ssh'ed into on first boot
[0:06] <prehensile> never had a monitor / keyboard connected
[0:06] <Joeboy> prehensile: brilliant. Is there a password set or anything?
[0:07] <prehensile> joeboy: it's pi/raspberry. the tricky bit is working out what ip your pi has been assigned
[0:07] <TAFB> look at dhcp log in router?
[0:08] <Joeboy> probably 192.168.1.3-6ish
[0:08] <Joeboy> shouldn't be too hard :-)
[0:08] <prehensile> tafb: that or nmap ;)
[0:08] <prehensile> joeboy: what OS are you running on your PC?
[0:08] <Joeboy> prehensile: ubuntu
[0:09] <prehensile> joeboy: can be useful to set up avahi, so you can address it as raspberrypi.local
[0:09] <TAFB> prehensile: ohhhh fancy
[0:09] <Joeboy> prehensile: I don't really want to do much with it, I just want to log in and poke some things
[0:09] <prehensile> then you don't need to worry about what it's ip will be, because it'll always have a name
[0:10] <Joeboy> (or peek them, strictly speaking)
[0:10] <prehensile> apt-get install avahi, done :P
[0:10] <prehensile> trust me, saves annoyances
[0:10] * Joeboy awaits raspbian download
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[0:14] <rikkib> http://www.bencom.co.nz/cam/ Move test seems to be good.
[0:14] <rikkib> http://www.bencom.co.nz:8081 or
[0:15] <rikkib> A view on the spare bed in the spare bedroom :)
[0:15] <rikkib> of the
[0:15] <pksato> rikkib: I see...
[0:16] <rikkib> I go move the cam an point it at the gear (rpi)
[0:18] <rikkib> The PC my RPi cam is sitting on is less powerful than the RPi in many ways... haha
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[0:20] <rikkib> cam, pwrd hub, case, rpi and two wall adapters...
[0:21] <Hopsy> rikkib: how did you make that
[0:21] <Hopsy> :O
[0:21] * nils_2 (~nils_2@unaffiliated/nils-2/x-2480262) Quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0-dev)
[0:21] <rikkib> replace the wall adapters with 12v and regulator and you have a real small portable system
[0:22] <TAFB> woot! berryboot!!! http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-13-RaspberryPi_berryboot_works_woot.jpg
[0:22] <rikkib> Hopsy, Make what... The case?
[0:22] <TAFB> so fast at installing :)
[0:22] <Hopsy> no the camera
[0:22] <Hopsy> thing
[0:23] <rikkib> The cam is just a cheap one usb uvc type
[0:23] * dreamreal (~jottinge@redhat/dreamreal) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
[0:23] <rikkib> the whole ssytem is based arounf motion running on the RPi inside my network and motion running on my fixed ip server
[0:24] <Hopsy> rikkib: I WANT THAT TOOO
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[0:24] <Hopsy> :(
[0:24] <rikkib> That box is heading for a proof of concept project early next week
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[0:25] <lee> I am so looking forward to the camera module.
[0:25] <rikkib> Got to install another RPi at another location on Sunday and the cam on Tuesday
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[0:26] <rikkib> cam module not much good to me at this point and confidence in the designers is pretty low with me.
[0:27] * Kisume just ordered his Pi!
[0:27] <whack> having some hdmi audio issues, tried some results found via google (setting hdmi_drive, _mode, and _group). No changes. analog audio works fine.
[0:28] <whack> any thoughts? When sound plays, I hear nothing, but my receiver blinks the "I am receiving PCM audio right now" bits
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[0:28] <rikkib> whack, hang on I will find a command for you
[0:29] <rikkib> #Set output to aux 0 auto 1 aux 2 hdmi
[0:29] <rikkib> printf "Setting Audio Output to Aux Speaker.\n"
[0:29] <rikkib> amixer cset numid=3 1
[0:29] * Flyser (~flyser@unaffiliated/flyser) Quit ()
[0:30] <whack> already done that one :\
[0:30] <rikkib> amixer cset numid=3 2
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[0:30] <whack> rikkib: I've found the 'hello_audio' program that comes with raspbian, and when running it it says "Outputting audio to hdmi" but I hear nothing, same "PCM" indicator lights up on the receiver
[0:31] <Hopsy> TAFB and JohnRambozo, I fixed it without downloading any gpart programs
[0:31] <Hopsy> I have used diskpart
[0:31] <rikkib> Maybe aux volume on the tv
[0:31] <rikkib> They have so many controls now days
[0:31] <TAFB> Hopsy: That's great news :)
[0:32] <whack> rikkib: other hdmi inputs provide audio without complaint, though I'm not certain any of them use PCM
[0:32] <whack> hard to debug these things :\
[0:32] <TAFB> Hopsy: Did you see, I got berryboot working too!!! :) http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-13-RaspberryPi_berryboot_works_woot.jpg
[0:32] <Hopsy> what is berryboot?
[0:33] <rikkib> Take it to another TV... I have not actually tested audio on a TV... Had speakers plugged in for my tests.
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[0:33] <whack> rikkib: hah, I have no other tv. I'll keep poking around. This setup is pi -> receiver -> tv
[0:34] <whack> nevermind. I am a complete retard
[0:34] <rikkib> ahhh audio pass through prob maybe
[0:34] <whack> at least, I think so anyway, will verify.
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[0:35] <TAFB> Hopsy: It's a tiny bootable image you put on your SD card, when you boot it, you can pick any linux version to install on your Pi! It downloads wheezy and installs it super fast. Why I like it: It fills entire SD card, without having to wait forever for expandfs command!
[0:36] <Hopsy> how did you do that TAFB?
[0:36] <Hopsy> I want that too!
[0:37] <TAFB> http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot
[0:37] <TAFB> works so freakin good
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[0:38] <Hopsy> coool
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[0:40] <whack> rikkib: long story short, I'm dumb. Plug in headphones to the receiver, I hear it. TV just isn't receiving (or outputting) because I normally have speakers (which are unplugged for painting)
[0:40] <whack> mega facepalm.
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[0:41] <whack> rikkib: anyhoo, thanks for the help :)
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[0:42] <rikkib> haha
[0:42] <rikkib> oppps
[0:42] <rikkib> haha
[0:42] <rikkib> The best of use have been caught out on their RPi adventures... It has got me a few times...
[0:43] <rikkib> No doubt it will get me again...
[0:43] * rikkib goes to order more power supplies...
[0:46] <gordonDrogon> oh hum. cloudy here. anyone watching the meteors?
[0:46] <TAFB> not very dark here yet
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[0:50] <rikkib> Two Galaxy S3 I9300 Charger Micro USB 1200mA ordered... $7.50NZD each
[0:51] <TAFB> Nice! they have 2100ma iPad chargers here for $8.99USD, work great.
[0:51] <rikkib> After lunch... Sort out all my tools and load the car ready for tomorrow...
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[0:53] <rikkib> My rule: Just run the RPi off the supply... Everything else gets other power source.
[0:53] <TAFB> rikkib: My rule, if it needs more power, solder more wires to the Pi :)
[0:54] <rikkib> So 1.2A is quite adequate
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[0:54] <TAFB> I'm running 10 amps into mine, even though the microusb connector can only handle about 3 or a hair more anyway :)
[0:55] * rikkib Whats the saying... Oh yes. rikkib slaps TAFB with a large trout
[0:55] <TAFB> rofl
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[0:56] <rikkib> One need to be a bit more disciplined when dealing with clients... They always find someone with tech ability to check out what you do. :)
[0:57] <rikkib> Hence my stuff has a tamper switch.
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[0:58] <akiwiguy> i'm gonna use my Pi as a tiny DHCP/TFTP/web server
[0:58] <akiwiguy> when i get it
[0:58] <akiwiguy> god damn i hate my router's dhcp server
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[0:58] <rikkib> Open the case and it forces a reboot.
[0:58] <MoleMan> is there an easy way to virtualize an ARM system? so I can setup and configure a system before I image it onto my RPi?
[0:59] <Hexxeh> Uni module teaches threads as one of the first topics. Not a single assignment submission doesn't block the UI thread. face -> palm.
[0:59] <rikkib> and then starts up in maintenance mode
[0:59] <akiwiguy> MoleMan, http://xecdesign.com/qemu-emulating-raspberry-pi-the-easy-way/ from a quick google
[1:00] <rikkib> Hi akiwiguy... Where you hide out... Me live in Ngatea.
[1:00] <akiwiguy> i'm up in auck
[1:00] <akiwiguy> but i go down to paeroa semi-often
[1:00] <MoleMan> akiwiguy: thanks
[1:00] <rikkib> Do I know you then... I know a guy that does that
[1:01] <rikkib> Peter Bennett ZL1UPB
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[1:01] <akiwiguy> nope
[1:01] <linuxstb> MoleMan: I'm curious why you would want to - why would that be better than just doing it on a real Pi?
[1:01] <rikkib> Hmmm
[1:01] <rikkib> wanna hook up via email?
[1:01] <akiwiguy> http://akiwiguy.net/#!/me has contact details if you wanna see who i actually am
[1:02] <MoleMan> linuxstb: the only things I have with HDMI inputs are the two TVs downstairs, and I'm too cheap / lazy to get around to buying a HDMI > DVI adaptor
[1:02] <rikkib> Ta... Will contact...
[1:02] <rikkib> bencom.co.nz or zlham.geek.nz for me
[1:03] <linuxstb> MoleMan: Well, I don't think any emulator can emulate the GPU.
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[1:04] <linuxstb> You can just access the Pi via ssh - no need for a display to be attached.
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[1:05] <Joeboy> bah, this raspbian card seems to be unbooty
[1:05] * Joeboy tries again
[1:05] <MoleMan> well what I actually want to configure at the moment will be running headless anyway, just file share, MySQL and possibly WiFi hotspot... I'm so sad I'm configuring it to replace my server whilst I'm away over christmas, ext HDD + RPi to stream to my tablet, which my server normally does at home...
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[1:09] <echelon> anyone know how i can short out the onboard usb hub so that i can get data+power on the microusb port?
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[1:09] <TAFB> echelon: I didn't see pins for the data connections of the microUSB connections, only the power, could be tricky
[1:10] <TAFB> echelon: You could do something like this to get the USB data back to the microusb connector, if you can find out where to tie into the pins for the microusb data: http://i.stack.imgur.com/eU2tt.jpg
[1:10] <echelon> godFather89 on http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=8670 said he was able to do it, but i'm not clear
[1:10] <TAFB> (that pic, is for providing raw extra power to the usb ports)
[1:10] <TAFB> checking...
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[1:11] <echelon> the modification would be useful for my lapdock
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[1:12] <TAFB> echelon: Why not back power the Pi through a regular USB port, then you got data on it anyway? or you need both ports?
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[1:13] <echelon> i need enough power through one port, and the usb hub+ethernet seems to be a drain
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[1:14] <echelon> also, i won't need an extra adapter
[1:14] <TAFB> echelon: if you feed power (or power+data) into one of the regular usb ports (not the microusb), it'll provide power to the Pi as well as give you almost unlimtied current available at the other regular USB ports (assuming rev 2.0 of the Pi, and bridged USB power pins like so: http://i.stack.imgur.com/LDQuV.jpg but the top two pins as well of course)
[1:15] <TAFB> give you almost unlimtied current available at the other regular USB port (singular, not ports)
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[1:16] <TAFB> echelon: just to give you a complete answer, you can also feed power directly to the GPIO pins, this lets you use both USB ports, plus you can tapp off the microusb port to power something (but no data), if you want :)
[1:16] <echelon> i already have powered usb ports on the lapdock which i prefer to use
[1:16] <TAFB> how do you power the pi?
[1:17] <echelon> lapdock powers it over microusb
[1:17] <TAFB> ahhhhhh
[1:17] <TAFB> and you want to add data to the micro USB port, to make it "sync" with the lapdock?
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[1:18] <echelon> yup
[1:18] <TAFB> makes sense, save a bunch of wires/connectors for sure.
[1:18] <TAFB> one sec while i read godfathers post more carefully, and have a look at my spare pi
[1:18] <echelon> thanks
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[1:20] <TAFB> echelon: do you have a copy of the Pi schematics handy? google is being dumb
[1:20] <echelon> no :/
[1:21] <TAFB> k. gimme a sec
[1:22] <TAFB> ok, that godfather guy is dumb. he didn't have to do all of that, lol. Remember that picture I showed you, where there were wires soldered to the USB ports power pins (you need to solder them to ONE set of the data pins)... now, we just need to find where we can access the microUSB data pins... gimme a bit to find a schematic
[1:23] <echelon> :)
[1:24] <TAFB> echelon: If you're super pro at soldering, on the rear of the microUSB jack you have access to all five wires of the microUSB jack.
[1:24] <TAFB> echelon: http://image.pinout.net/pinout_USB_files/pinout-microUSB.png
[1:25] <echelon> hmm
[1:25] * [SLB] is now known as [SLB]`
[1:25] <TAFB> so you would solder a pair of wires from the bottom of one of the USB jack data pins (ask me if you're not sure which ones to use), to the back of the microUSB jack and voila, you've disabled data for one of the rear jacks and passed it to the microusb
[1:26] <echelon> hmm ok
[1:26] <TAFB> you could actually still use the rear jack too, as power only, or as data if no data source was plugged into the microusb
[1:26] <TAFB> usb
[1:26] <echelon> i'll inevitably ask you again when i actually do it heh
[1:26] <TAFB> they should done that from the factory, give you more flexibility
[1:26] <echelon> ok
[1:26] <echelon> i know
[1:26] <TAFB> no probs, look at the pins on the bottom of the two usb jacks, there's two rows of four
[1:26] <echelon> and ethernet would still work?
[1:26] <TAFB> yep, ethernet, everything peachy
[1:26] <echelon> ok
[1:27] <echelon> nice :)
[1:27] <echelon> thanks again
[1:27] <TAFB> the usb ports, the two rows of four, each row is for one of the jacks, the outside pins are power and ground, and the middle two are the data wires
[1:27] <TAFB> no probs, good luck
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[1:35] <CelticTurnip> hey all (again)
[1:35] <TAFB> hey CelticTurnip :)
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[1:57] <rikkib> http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.asp?id=540194430
[1:57] <rikkib> Panasonic Connect KX-TDA200
[1:57] <rikkib> Hybrid IP-PBX
[1:57] <rikkib> Plus 20 Panasonic connect phones
[1:57] <rikkib> System working and in excellent condition.
[1:57] <rikkib> Used.
[1:57] <rikkib> I paid $50NZD for the above.
[1:57] <TAFB> nice
[1:58] <rikkib> That goes into the proof of concept project...
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[1:59] <rikkib> 5 acre lifestyle block with engineering sheds on property as well as two dwellings
[1:59] <rikkib> Telecom lineman by trade... With lots of other skill in computer domain.
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[2:00] <rikkib> This is the niche market I am aiming for... People with money and property that needs securing
[2:00] * Milos__ is now known as Milos
[2:01] <rikkib> I take over all their technology needs.
[2:01] <rikkib> I onwz joo
[2:01] <rikkib> opps ownz joo
[2:02] <rikkib> Consumable annual income
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[2:40] <MachinaeWolf> hmm should http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/169/how-can-i-extend-the-life-of-my-sd-card make me worry if I wanted to use a pi as a desktop?
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[2:42] <MachinaeWolf> brb
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[2:45] <PredaGR> hello people, I am trying to move the raspbian root to a USB hard disk, but thinking it would not be wise to use /dev/sd* for it, is UUID working instead as kernel parameter
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[2:46] <LordThumper> Hi
[2:46] <TAFB> PredaGR: the Pi can't boot from USB. Boot needs to stay on SD, but you can move the OS to USB :)
[2:47] <TAFB> berryboot makes it super easy
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[2:47] <LordThumper> Sometimes when some light switches are turned off in home, my RPI reboots
[2:47] <PredaGR> yes I know, boot files stay on SD, but cmdline.txt when read points to the root partition
[2:47] <LordThumper> What could the problem be?
[2:48] <TAFB> LordThumper: Check your TP1-TP2 voltage, if it's right on the edge like 4.8v, it's that little static spike causing it to reboot :)
[2:48] <LordThumper> Would installing a decently sized capacitor help?
[2:48] <nickgaw> when the light switch turns off a small electric stop and start could be going on.
[2:48] <TAFB> LordThumper: The C2 capacitor is very undersized, 47uf and spec calls for 200uf minimum, although I don't know if that would help.
[2:48] <pksato> LordThumper: replace psu to another more stable.
[2:49] <LordThumper> The psu is an HTC charger
[2:49] <LordThumper> Which I heard is decent
[2:49] <TAFB> LordThumper: a high quality MicroUSB cable (24 gauge power) could help, a more powerful power supply, or both. OR, backfeeding power video USB port, or powering by GPIO
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[2:49] <TAFB> best microusb cable on earty: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5458&seq=1&format=2
[2:49] <TAFB> I can pull 3 amps through it :)
[2:49] <LordThumper> Does the cable matter too?
[2:49] <TAFB> HUGE
[2:49] <TAFB> it matters
[2:49] <TAFB> one moment for youtube vid
[2:50] <PredaGR> interesting
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[2:50] <TAFB> nobody believed me that cable matters, so I made a youtube vid
[2:50] <TAFB> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNDeQMNCOiw&hd=1
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[2:51] <LordThumper> Ok I'll try to read the voltage using a multimeter
[2:51] <TAFB> I spent so much $$ troubleshooting my Pi, even bought a second cable, new power supply, new SD cards, even a new Pi. Turned out to be the cables :(
[2:51] <TAFB> super crappy 30gauge wires in side
[2:51] <LordThumper> What values should I look for?
[2:51] <TAFB> over 4.9v TP1-TP2 is flawless.
[2:51] <LordThumper> Oki
[2:51] <pksato> In some cases, need to use a osciloscpe to instpect power condiction.
[2:52] <LordThumper> Btw, my speakers do a cracking sound too when the switch is flipped
[2:52] <LordThumper> Don't have an oscilloscope unfortunately :/
[2:52] <TAFB> LordThumper: http://elinux.org/images/d/d1/RPI_Test_Points.JPG
[2:52] <TAFB> LordThumper: your speakers NOT connected to your Pi?
[2:53] <LordThumper> TAFB: Great, thanks
[2:53] <pksato> multimeter is very slow to display quick changes on voltage.
[2:53] <LordThumper> No in same room though
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[2:53] <LordThumper> Connected to the mains
[2:53] <TAFB> LordThumper: yep, mine too :)
[2:53] <LordThumper> And my PC
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[2:54] <TAFB> Use the volt meter when you power up the Pi, and watch during the whole boot process, remember the lowest reading you get
[2:54] <LordThumper> pksato: Got a decent multimeter with a 10Hz or so refresh rate
[2:54] <LordThumper> Oki
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[2:54] <TAFB> pksato: how'd you like my youtube voltage video?
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[2:54] <pksato> decent multimeter cost very much.
[2:55] <pksato> :)
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[2:58] <npm> question: why does most recent raspbian update say that lxde has 47 new dependencies and needs 34.1MB of stuff installed, some of which might mess w/ my current config? "mobile-broadband-provider-info modemmanager network-manager network-manager-gnome notification-daemon obex-data-server obexd-client" ?
[2:58] <TAFB> I don't question, I just update
[2:58] <npm> the update says "The following packages have been kept back: lxde" but then I did "apt-get install lxde" and got notified of over-long dependency list.
[2:58] <npm> update questions for me
[2:58] <TAFB> with this command: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[2:58] <ParkerR_> npm, 34mb of dependencies isnt bad
[2:58] <LordThumper> Ok
[2:59] <LordThumper> Voltage is fluctuating between 4.83v and 4.84v
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[2:59] <TAFB> LordThumper: That's the bare bare minimum to run the Pi :(
[2:59] <TAFB> LordThumper: Can you check voltage, F2 to D17?
[2:59] <npm> why would i want to install a bunch of stuff for bluetooth when i'm not using it? :bluez crda dnsmasq-base galculator gcr gir1.2-atk-1.0 gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0 gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0 gir1.2-gtk-3.0 gir1.2-pango-1.0 gnome-bluetooth gnome-keyring iw libcanberra-gtk3-0 libcanberra-gtk3-module libcanberra0 libcap-ng0 libcap2-bin libgck-1-0 libgcr-3-1 ...
[2:59] <LordThumper> Ah atleast found the problem
[2:59] <TAFB> bottom of board, by micro USB jack
[3:00] <TAFB> LordThumper: http://i.stack.imgur.com/eU2tt.jpg
[3:00] <TAFB> that pic, upper left, where the wires attach
[3:00] <LordThumper> Ok one moment though need to unscrew the board from the case
[3:00] <TAFB> test those two points, the edges of the chips that are closest to the edge of the board.
[3:01] <npm> plus why is gnome network-manager being installed " network-manager network-manager-gnome notification-daemon obex-data-server obexd-client policykit-1-gnome ppp usb-modeswitch usb-modeswitch-data wireless-regdb"
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[3:02] <TAFB> Ok, I've got the fastest SD card on earth installed and set up in the Pi. Who's got a good command I can run to test the speed? :)
[3:03] <pinion> I'm super glad logs are kept around here...
[3:03] <TAFB> i keep logs :)
[3:03] <ParkerR_> I do too
[3:03] <ParkerR_> TAFB, sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root
[3:04] <ParkerR_> See how fast it goes!
[3:04] <TAFB> um, no
[3:04] <ParkerR_> :P
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[3:05] <TAFB> what's my /dev, how do I check it?
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[3:05] <ParkerR_> Accidental key combo close
[3:05] <TAFB> lol
[3:05] <TAFB> was looking for my /dev...
[3:06] <LordThumper> $ sudo hdparm -tT /dev/sda ?
[3:06] <LordThumper> Ok I am looking near the microsd port
[3:07] <LordThumper> Cannot find F2 neither in diagram
[3:07] <TAFB> LordThumper: my Pi says can't find hdparm :(
[3:07] <LordThumper> Debian?
[3:07] <TAFB> did I say F2? lol
[3:07] <TAFB> I meant F3
[3:07] <LordThumper> sudo apt-get hdparm
[3:07] <LordThumper> oh ok
[3:07] <TAFB> D17 is beside it.
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[3:10] <LordThumper> Ok that gives
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[3:10] <LordThumper> 4.95v - 4.96v
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[3:11] <TAFB> ok, that's a little low. You can have a crappy USB power supply, more likely a crappy MicroUSB cable, and currently, your F3 poly fuse is sinking a lot of current :(
[3:11] <TAFB> Start with new cable and/or power supply and check again.
[3:11] <TAFB> You need a MINIMUM on F3 to D12 of 5.00v
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[3:13] <TAFB> Do you have a TV with a USB port? I find they put out good current and voltage :)
[3:13] <TAFB> ok, for hard drive test I'm running: time sh -c "dd if=/dev/zero of=ddfile bs=8k count=125000 && sync"
[3:13] <TAFB> should make a 1gb file, flush the cache, then measure time :)
[3:13] <LordThumper> I see
[3:13] <LordThumper> Yes actually :-)
[3:13] <LordThumper> Let me try connecting to it
[3:14] <TAFB> LordThumper: nice :) give er a go, and measure both TP1-TP2 on bootup, then F3 to D17 when idle.
[3:14] <LordThumper> Oki
[3:14] <LordThumper> Thanks alot for the detailed help btw -)
[3:14] <LordThumper> :)
[3:14] <TAFB> thank me when you get er all tuned up and the light switch dun reboot her ;)
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[3:15] <pksato> how mega watts have this light?
[3:16] <TAFB> it doesn't take much. when my fridge used to come on it'd reboot my Pi (when it was running from super crappy usb cable with manually boosted 5.2v input voltage)
[3:16] <TAFB> took me FOREVER to figure out wtf was goin on :)
[3:17] <TAFB> ls
[3:17] <CelticTurnip> cat
[3:17] * CelticTurnip loves the UNIX shell command game
[3:17] <TAFB> rofl, wrong window :)
[3:18] <TAFB> 1024000000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 72.9089 s, 14.0 MB/s - no improvement in raw sequential write speed
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[3:19] <LordThumper> TP1-2 is 4.88V, other is 4.99V
[3:19] <LordThumper> Time to change the cable :-)
[3:20] <TAFB> yep, cable time ;)
[3:20] <TAFB> it's better though
[3:20] <LordThumper> USB out on tv is rated at 5V 1A
[3:20] <LordThumper> Says the label
[3:20] <TAFB> perfect
[3:20] <TAFB> nice supply
[3:20] <TAFB> My tv is 2100ma, guess they were expecting people to plug in USB hard drives ;)
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[3:20] <LordThumper> Hehe
[3:21] <LordThumper> I tried using a USB HDD with my HTC charger as power supply
[3:21] <LordThumper> It didnt work too well :)
[3:21] <TAFB> yeah, they need a LOT of juice
[3:22] <LordThumper> indeed
[3:22] <TAFB> I'm running one off my Pi, I upgraded it to a 10amp power supply and soldered in USB jumper wires like the pic I sent you, works now ;)
[3:22] <LordThumper> anyways going to get some sleep
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[3:22] <TAFB> nite nite sleep good
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[3:22] <LordThumper> thanks again :-)
[3:22] <TAFB> np
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[3:30] <Tachyon`> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20717774 <- result
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[4:03] <echelon> TAFB: eich, i just saw the microusb pins.. i don't think i can do that :/
[4:03] <echelon> i wouldn't even know what kind of equipment i would need for that
[4:05] <SpeedEvil> to do what?
[4:05] <echelon> reroute the data pins to it
[4:06] <SpeedEvil> what do you mean?
[4:07] <echelon> have data available on microusb
[4:07] <echelon> data+power
[4:07] <SpeedEvil> the pi does not support USB device mode
[4:07] <SpeedEvil> only USB host mode
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[4:08] <SpeedEvil> (it's possible the model A may differ)
[4:08] <echelon> ok
[4:09] <echelon> i just need power and data for the keyboard
[4:09] <SpeedEvil> ...
[4:09] <SpeedEvil> plug it into the USB socket
[4:09] <echelon> i'm on a lapdock
[4:09] <echelon> trying to set it up with a lapdock
[4:10] <echelon> which provides power/data from single microusb port
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[4:15] <SpeedEvil> the lap dock supplies power?
[4:16] <shiftplusone> SpeedEvil, it has a built in hub and battery
[4:16] <echelon> yup
[4:16] <SpeedEvil> make up a cable with the power connector connected to microusb, and another cable to the host slot
[4:16] * ukgamer is now known as ukgamer|away
[4:17] <SpeedEvil> or bridge the USB fuses, and use an appropriate adaptor
[4:17] <echelon> a lot of people have complained about not getting enough power, the lapdock provides it sufficiently, but the usb hub/ethernet on the pi draws too much
[4:17] <shiftplusone> ....then it doesn't supply it sufficiently O_o
[4:18] <echelon> the keyboard doesn't work
[4:18] <echelon> i have a split Y microusb
[4:18] <echelon> cable
[4:18] <shiftplusone> at this point you should be able to figure out what's wrong better than anyone here
[4:19] <echelon> one end for power the other for keyboard
[4:19] <shiftplusone> Measure voltages and so on
[4:19] <echelon> and i've concluded that routing data to microusb port on the pi is the best solution
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[4:20] <echelon> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=8670 ..read godfather89's posts
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[4:23] <echelon> since the lapdock already has powered usb ports, it doesn't make much difference to me if i lose functionality of the usb hub on the pi
[4:23] <echelon> but i would prefer to keep the ethernet
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[4:23] <SpeedEvil> bypass the fuses
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[4:24] <SpeedEvil> connect to the host port through an appropriate adaptor
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[4:51] <blueskies2> hi kids, just wondering what setting gpio pin to high does?
[4:51] <damo22> which pin
[4:52] <blueskies2> say pin 11
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[4:52] <damo22> pin 16 turns on the ok light
[4:53] <blueskies2> confused, more info anywhere?
[4:53] <TAFB> Got my Pi all snuggled into it's new case :) http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-13-RaspberryPi_new_aluminum_case_heatsink.jpg
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[4:53] <shiftplusone> blueskies2, your question is too vague, I think
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[4:53] <ackthet> shiftplusone: are you the only op?
[4:53] <piney0> TAFB, do you like the case?
[4:53] <damo22> nice case
[4:54] <shiftplusone> ackthet, far from it
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[4:54] <TAFB> yep. fits like a glove, heatsink posts (comes with goo), touch all the hot chips.
[4:54] <ackthet> ahhh your the only one i've even seen +o himself
[4:54] <piney0> it's a pricy one, hard to justify that money for a $35 board
[4:54] <ackthet> ^^^^
[4:54] <damo22> my plastic transparent one does the job
[4:54] <ackthet> i got a 20 dollar one and i had to spend like 20 minutes debating it in my head
[4:54] <piney0> nice for heavy duty application though i guess
[4:54] <blueskies2> shiftplusone: im not sure what you require, GPIO.output(12, GPIO.HIGH) as example
[4:55] <TAFB> piney0: lol. It's going to be running mission critical server stuff, so I figured keep it cool plus protect it from RF should be good
[4:55] <ackthet> TAFB: you really shouldnt run mission critical stuff on 1 RPI
[4:55] <damo22> lol
[4:55] <TAFB> I'm sure gonna put it to the test, yep.
[4:55] <piney0> didn't even think of the RFI potential
[4:55] <blueskies2> TAFB: looks real good
[4:55] <TAFB> I got the old servers kickin around still, so I could plug em in and power em up if the worst happened
[4:55] <pksato> blueskies2: digital logic, 0 or LOW = Zero Volts
[4:55] <ackthet> you should at least run like 5 RPI's
[4:55] <ackthet> with fallover
[4:56] <ackthet> or something
[4:56] <shiftplusone> ackthet, probably because the rest are poms, so they are not on at the time we're on.
[4:56] <piney0> i was thinking 2 doing HA
[4:56] <ackthet> *failover
[4:56] <blueskies2> pksato: so GPIO.output(12, true) the same as GPIO.output(12, GPIO.HIGH)
[4:56] <TAFB> ackthet: I saw the "Pi Cluster" wiki, looked pretty sweet.
[4:56] <ackthet> i would do 4 or something
[4:56] <pksato> 1 or HIGH = 3.3V (
[4:56] <ackthet> im not talking about a cluster just some HA stuff
[4:57] <blueskies2> pksato: cool, just didnt think i was getting the same results
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[4:57] <pksato> false = LOW, true = HIGH
[4:57] <damo22> https://github.com/bootc/linux.git do a lot of people use this?
[4:58] <pksato> and, in some situation, these are inverted.
[4:58] <damo22> im looking for a set of decent kernel sources for pi
[4:58] <blueskies2> pksato: why are they inverted sometimes
[4:58] <TAFB> alright, onto attempting to get Ruby working with EventMachine again :) wish me luck.
[4:59] <ackthet> only if you send me one of yoru HP Prolients :D
[4:59] <TAFB> they are TANKS!
[4:59] <TAFB> Dual 1200watt supplies, don't support power management!
[4:59] <damo22> whats wrong with something like a mac mini?
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[5:00] <blueskies2> price
[5:00] <ackthet> or all the HTPC x86 boards?
[5:00] <ackthet> c-60, atom, et cetera
[5:00] <pksato> blueskies2: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_level
[5:00] <piney0> nothing if you're an isheep /troll
[5:00] <damo22> i dont like apple either
[5:00] <TAFB> isheep, i like that :)
[5:00] <damo22> mainly due to their software policies
[5:00] <damo22> their hardware is good though
[5:00] <blueskies2> pksato: cheers
[5:00] <ackthet> damo22: and their pricing
[5:01] <ackthet> damo22: its overpriced though!
[5:01] <piney0> i sheep use ipoop products
[5:01] <damo22> yes it is
[5:01] <damo22> still it looks nice
[5:01] <damo22> cant argue with that
[5:01] <TAFB> I got my first iProduct ever, an iPod touch for $80 new in the box, just to run Harry's Lap Timer Pro to record times and routes for my track bike (motorcycle) :(
[5:01] <TAFB> i felt so... dirty buying it.
[5:02] <TAFB> and installing iTunes. totally f'ed up my network
[5:02] <damo22> my mbp is sitting in the cupboard unused
[5:02] <ackthet> damo22: nope, if i were rich i too would probably have a mac air
[5:02] <piney0> iphone users got google maps back today, i bet they are happy
[5:03] <TAFB> does just owning an iProduct mean I must drink my coffee at starbucks now?? :(
[5:04] <ackthet> at my school, theres a super hipster cafe and i went in once and i saw like 5-8 macbooks and probably more iphones hidden away
[5:04] <piney0> naah, starbucks isn't an i-product. no need to :)
[5:04] <TAFB> ackthet: lol
[5:04] <TAFB> that'd be like me, walking into church, we just don't mix
[5:04] <ackthet> lets see if theres a pic
[5:04] <damo22> rich kids with macbooks dont even use them to their potential
[5:05] <ackthet> not many people use the potential of their computers
[5:05] <damo22> only thing i dont like is the lack of dedicated pageup and pagedown keys
[5:05] <echelon> TAFB: i dont have the equipment to solder microusb pins :/
[5:05] <ackthet> laptops esp
[5:05] <TAFB> echelon: I know, they are so tiny :(
[5:05] <shiftplusone> to be fair laptops are pretty 'meh' when it comes to quality, so getting a mac makes sense (if you run linux on it)
[5:05] <TAFB> echelon: do you have any solder friends that could do it?
[5:05] <echelon> nope
[5:06] <shiftplusone> takes the guess work out, I guess
[5:06] <ackthet> echelon: what kid of equiptment do you lack?
[5:06] <TAFB> echelon: all they would have to do is solder on some length of a pair of say 28awg wires.
[5:06] <ackthet> *kind <_<
[5:06] <damo22> i think ill sell my iphone and get an android
[5:06] <TAFB> ackthet: He wants to solder wires to the tiny pins on the back of the Pi's microUSB jack
[5:06] <ackthet> ahh
[5:07] <TAFB> he needs to feed data back through the micro USB. He's going to tap off one of the back two USB's and run the data back to the micro jack, but the Pi people didn't put the data connection on the board, they just left em in the jack
[5:07] <damo22> iphone still works with linux to transfer pics and stuff but the non reversible upgrades are getting intolerable
[5:08] <damo22> if you dont upgrade, your phone stops working as a telephone
[5:08] <damo22> ie you cant make calls
[5:08] <pksato> need a microscope to solder these tiny wires.
[5:08] <echelon> so wat if i take godfather89's route
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[5:08] <TAFB> damo22: my friend did a upgrade a few months back and now her car charger, bluetooth, and home dock no longer works "not apple approved" :( she said there was no way to go back!
[5:09] <damo22> TAFB: yep its really stupid
[5:09] <TAFB> echelon: It's still not clear HOW he fed data back to that port! Ask him for super good pics.
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[5:09] <ackthet> TAFB: he could probably pull that off with a small tipped iron on low
[5:09] <ackthet> i would imagine
[5:09] <damo22> i am boycotting apple very soon as soon as i find a phone that does what i need
[5:09] <echelon> pksato: even so, my hands arent steady enough
[5:09] <TAFB> ackthet: Yep, super small, low heat, magnifying glass, some really nice equipment to get set up with if you're going to do more of this kinda stuff echelon
[5:10] <pksato> or, more simple, made a cable to do what
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[5:10] <TAFB> damo22: Samsung Galaxy S3? What can't they do :)
[5:10] <ackthet> TAFB: yeah i spend like 60 on soldering stuff, well worth it
[5:10] <TAFB> pksato: he can't make a cable, there's a microUSB jack on the thing he wants to dock the Pi right to.
[5:12] <TAFB> echelon: This is the solder station I use for tiny stuff: http://www.dhgate.com/electronics-soldering-station-with-5x-8x/p-ff808081260d4fd1012626255f6154fc.html
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[5:12] <TAFB> And I got a real tiny soldering gun with dual 20watt/40watt heat switch.
[5:12] <SpeedEvil> TAFB: of course he can. a dual ended cable will work just fine
[5:12] <TAFB> get some good quality resin core "tech" solder and it's a breeze :)
[5:13] <TAFB> SpeedEvil: he wants to dock the Pi, right to the plug on the device, i.e. no cable between. It's the LapDock.
[5:13] <SpeedEvil> or bypass the fuses, and use the right asaprore
[5:13] <echelon> link no werk
[5:13] <TAFB> http://www.dhgate.com/electronics-soldering-station-with-5x-8x/p-ff808081260d4fd1012626255f6154fc.html
[5:14] <echelon> TAFB: oh, ive got that
[5:14] <pksato> power pi from usb port.
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[5:14] <echelon> off dx
[5:14] <ackthet> echelon: i got a similar one off amazon called 'helping hands' or some crap
[5:14] <ackthet> it was like 20 bucks or so
[5:14] <ackthet> i use it for tons of stuff
[5:14] <TAFB> echelon: nice. now you just need a super pencil thin soldering gun and good solder :)
[5:14] <ackthet> lets see
[5:15] <pksato> or, 5V pins on gpio headers/
[5:15] <damo22> how do i unpack a deb?
[5:15] <ackthet> http://www.amazon.com/SE-MZ101-Helping-Hands-Magnifier/dp/B0002BBZ2Y something like that
[5:15] <echelon> needle thin :P
[5:15] <Dagger2> `dpkg -x`
[5:15] <damo22> ty
[5:15] <rikkib> Tachyon`, Thanks for the link earlier...
[5:15] <TAFB> he needs to feed data to the micro usb port, and get the power from it still. there is no option pople ;) lol.
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[5:17] <shiftplusone> Anyone have NX working?
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[5:18] <pksato> pi laptop like it? http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=6747
[5:19] <TAFB> yep, but wants to dock the Pi right where the phone is supposed to go ;)
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[5:19] <TAFB> and do away with the mess of cables
[5:20] <ackthet> just buy a cromebook!
[5:20] <ackthet> its 250 bucks, quad core arm, 5 hr batter or something
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[5:20] <TAFB> hey Turnip :)
[5:20] <ackthet> and its ~macbook air in size
[5:20] <CelticTurnip> hiya
[5:21] <TAFB> can you FTP a whole folder, with subfolders, from the Pi?
[5:21] <ackthet> TAFB: why not just use scp
[5:21] <TAFB> never heard of scp
[5:22] <TAFB> i need to get files from my Pi to windows pc, but ultravnc freezes when I try file transfer
[5:22] <ackthet> not sure if serious... or if troll
[5:22] <ackthet> scp uses ssh <_<
[5:22] <ackthet> there are windows clients
[5:22] <ackthet> winscp
[5:22] <ackthet> just use your ssh credentials
[5:22] <TAFB> putty don't work?
[5:22] <ackthet> no
[5:22] <TAFB> k.
[5:22] <ackthet> winscp is the program
[5:22] <ackthet> that i've used
[5:22] <ackthet> there are others
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[5:22] <TAFB> winscp installin
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[5:23] <ackthet> word
[5:23] <CelticTurnip> Windows hell yeah! :)
[5:23] <pksato> putty have a pscp
[5:23] <CelticTurnip> meh, just install Filezilla if you want to go the full drag and drop noob :)
[5:24] <TAFB> woot, works.
[5:24] <ackthet> pksato: does it? i guess i missed that :P
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[5:24] <TAFB> ohhhhhhh fast
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[5:24] <ackthet> TAFB: it work?
[5:25] <TAFB> flawless
[5:25] <TAFB> first try
[5:25] <TAFB> works great
[5:25] <CelticTurnip> :)
[5:25] <ackthet> hehe
[5:25] <ackthet> glad to halp
[5:25] <pksato> pscp need to use a black windows with write caracters. :)
[5:25] <CelticTurnip> I wish Unix had good networking like Windows :(
[5:26] <ackthet> CelticTurnip: yeah i think im gonna drop freebsd
[5:26] <CelticTurnip> you should
[5:26] <TAFB> my Pi is now backed up, Ruby/EventMachine time :(
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[5:29] <CelticTurnip> ackthet: you need to start backing up using zmodem
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[5:29] <CelticTurnip> serial is the only real backup :)
[5:30] <ackthet> amen to that
[5:30] <atouk> laplink that puppy
[5:31] <TAFB> what's the command to view total ram?
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[5:34] <ackthet> free -m
[5:34] <ackthet> should give you all the info about ram
[5:34] <TAFB> okies, my gpu is on 64mb :( time to bump her down
[5:34] <pksato> head -1 /proc/meminfo
[5:34] <TAFB> can you have smaller than 16mb?
[5:35] <damo22> woot cross compiling rpi kernel now
[5:35] <Essobi> :D
[5:36] <ackthet> i've been trying to get a gcc-none-eabi for a long time
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[5:36] <damo22> im using arm-linux-gnueabihf-
[5:37] <Essobi> Yup.
[5:37] <Essobi> I can't remember what I installed on OSx to crosscompile..
[5:37] <damo22> it was painless in linux
[5:37] <Essobi> I'm sure it was. :D
[5:37] <ackthet> damo22: but i dont want one for linux :(
[5:37] <damo22> ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=/usr/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf- make zImage modules modules_install
[5:38] <Essobi> ackthet: uh.. for what platform?
[5:38] <ackthet> none
[5:38] <ackthet> :P
[5:38] <ackthet> gcc-none-eabi
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[5:38] <damo22> how can you have no platform
[5:38] <Essobi> Herp.
[5:38] <ackthet> how?
[5:38] <ackthet> haha
[5:38] <Essobi> the host platform, silly.
[5:39] <damo22> you mean you want a set of cross compilers that run on any platform
[5:39] <damo22> and compile for arm,
[5:39] <damo22> ?
[5:39] <ackthet> yes
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[5:39] <ackthet> and run on bare metal
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[5:39] <damo22> interesting
[5:39] <ackthet> http://www.kunen.org/uC/gnu_tool.html read the difference here
[5:40] <ackthet> he says it better than i could
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[5:41] <shiftplusone> Good link, thanks
[5:42] <mano1979> hi guys! i wondered how i can send a message over usb when the system is succesfully halted. any ideas?
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[5:44] <ackthet> yeah i found it a good read
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[6:05] <rikkib> Of interest to radio enthusiasts maybe... Lightning protection for wireless networks. http://www.actechnologies.co.nz/userfiles/cnotes.pdf
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[6:12] <ozatomic> is using a powersupply that is 5V 3A goign to be a problem?
[6:13] <shiftplusone> ozatomic, NOPE
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[6:13] <shiftplusone> sorry, caps lock
[6:13] <ozatomic> nice was jsut checking. Its not a usb end but if i jsut chop off teh plug and solder on a usb connect i only need the 2 bins connected correct?
[6:13] <ozatomic> bins = pins
[6:14] <shiftplusone> yup
[6:14] <ozatomic> jsut makes sure they right way around :p
[6:14] <shiftplusone> make sure it's DC and you don't mess up the polarity
[6:14] <ozatomic> yeah it is DC made sure of that
[6:15] <ozatomic> i'll jsut use dmm to check everything
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[6:24] <damo22> i made a tarball that includes a rpi kernel, modules, firmware and full set of sources
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[6:25] <damo22> all you have to do is untar it into / on a pi and cd /usr/src && make clean && make scripts and you have a way to compile out of tree modules
[6:25] <damo22> :)
[6:26] <damo22> sorry /usr/src/linux-3.2.23+
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[7:18] <TAFB> nope, Ruby and Thin still not getting along with eventmachine :( Unexpected error while processing request: undefined method `call' for EventMachine:Module
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[7:27] <damo22> anyone know why jackd has memory alignment fault
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[7:40] <damo22> im really fed up with my kernel compile efforts
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[7:41] <TAFB> i'm fed up trying to find an eventmachine that works with ruby 1.9.3 :(
[7:41] <damo22> every kernel i cross compile works, but i dont get access to 496MB when i set gpu_mem_512 =16
[7:41] <damo22> :(
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[7:41] <damo22> and im sure that i updated my firmware to latest hexxeh
[7:41] <TAFB> on wheezy I got: after: MemTotal: 497764 kB
[7:42] <damo22> uname -a = ?
[7:42] <TAFB> one sec, it's compiling eventmachine, should be done in a few seconds.
[7:42] <damo22> k
[7:43] <TAFB> Linux raspberrypi 3.2.27+ #250 PREEMPT Thu Oct 18 19:03:02 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
[7:43] <damo22> thats not wheezy
[7:43] <damo22> thats the hexxeh kernel
[7:43] <TAFB> wtf? for sure it is
[7:44] <damo22> i need a kernel with sources/headers
[7:44] <TAFB> wrote it with: 2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian.img
[7:44] <damo22> TAFB: yeah but do you have headers in /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.27+ i think not
[7:45] <TAFB> dunno what headers are :(
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[7:45] <damo22> they are the .h files that were used to build the kernel
[7:45] <TAFB> oh
[7:45] <damo22> plus a special file that spits out at the end of the compile
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[7:46] <damo22> it allows you to build custom modules using the compiler on the pi
[7:46] <damo22> for your running kernel
[7:46] <TAFB> i built quake3?
[7:46] <damo22> thats not a kernel module
[7:46] <TAFB> oh
[7:47] <damo22> i want to build a new driver for a new piece of hardware
[7:47] <damo22> and insert it into the running kernel
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[7:47] <damo22> i just need a kernel with kernel-headers package or sources
[7:48] <damo22> so i compiled my own kernel a few times for different versions but it didnt give me access to the other 256MB
[7:49] <damo22> :(
[7:49] <damo22> there must be a missing patch
[7:49] <TAFB> that sucks.
[7:49] <TAFB> I used berryboot to download and install wheezy, and it only gave me 256mb too
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[8:15] <Shift_> damo22, are you sure the kernel has anything to do with it?
[8:15] <damo22> i think it does, because I didnt change my firmware but only changed the kernel img and i got 512
[8:15] <Shift_> damo22, afaik it doesn't, double check your firmware is updated with hexxeh's tool.
[8:15] <Shift_> strange
[8:15] <damo22> but Hexxeh's tool installs a binary kernel
[8:16] <damo22> as well as the firmware
[8:16] <Shift_> that's one of the things it does
[8:16] <damo22> unless you specify SKIP_KERNEL=1
[8:16] <Shift_> yup
[8:16] <damo22> so basically i grabbed his updates
[8:16] <damo22> did the update
[8:16] <damo22> and i got 512
[8:16] <damo22> but i dont have headers for this kernel
[8:17] <damo22> so i downgraded the kernel.img and i got 256
[8:17] <Shift_> hmm O_o
[8:17] <damo22> so i emailed him for the sources
[8:17] <damo22> then i can compile my own
[8:18] <Shift_> it's not from the raspberrypi github?
[8:18] <damo22> i'll soon find out
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[8:45] <TAFB> man I really wish I could get eventmachine working with Ruby 1.9.3 :( I'm off to bed, nite nite.
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[9:59] <S0-2> I've been trying to build omxplayer-git from the AUR, but here's what I've got: http://pastebin.com/u2yVn1PC .
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[10:07] <john_f> S0-2: try to reinstall boost
[10:08] <john_f> S0-2: or boost-libs. looks like the files for it are corrupt
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[10:12] <S0-2> I'll try
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[10:56] <freeqaz> ahoy
[10:57] <jelly1> hi
[10:58] <freeqaz> Would you by chance, know of any place to order a RasPi to get before christmas in the US?
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[10:58] <freeqaz> Everywhere, sans ebay, is sold out.
[11:00] <gordonDrogon> hi
[11:00] <gordonDrogon> adafruit?
[11:01] <freeqaz> Adafruit is out atm
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[11:01] <gordonDrogon> order from the UK and get it shipped over?
[11:01] <freeqaz> Do you know of any good sites?
[11:01] <freeqaz> I wouldn't mind going that route.
[11:02] <gordonDrogon> you have to get-round the geo-IP stuff that some sites use now though & make sure they'll ship to the US..
[11:02] <john_f> newark had a couple shipments in the last week
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[11:03] <freeqaz> Geo-IP shouldn't be a problem.
[11:03] <freeqaz> Thank you for the heads up though.
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[11:05] <freeqaz> Newark is out.
[11:06] <neilr> freeqaz: if you go that route, I've heard good things about NewIT. Also I bought some Sheevaplugs from the a couple of years back, and they were very helpful.
[11:08] <freeqaz> Holy crap, ??35.00 for shipping.
[11:09] <egrouse> ouch
[11:09] <freeqaz> $50 on ebay isn't so bad.
[11:09] <freeqaz> Maybe I'll just go that route.
[11:10] <nid0> well, you want it sent halfway around the world in under a week right before christmas
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[11:13] <freeqaz> True that. Haha, I don't mind it being delayed. Just want it before the 30th. Thank you guys. :D
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[11:20] <Weaselweb> freeqaz: hope that customs don't delay it further. I waited nearly one 1 month for a t-shirt and a bracelet shipped from US to germany until it arrived
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[11:21] <tanuva> ha, my new (working) Pi rocks. openelec plays hd video out of the box.
[11:22] <jelly1> woop
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[12:03] <Martin`> Hello world :D
[12:04] <Martin`> http://cl.ly/image/2R3l261g2a00 << this is very strange, first he said that password was wrong, then I enter username and I'm in without password :P
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[12:08] <Weaselweb> Martin`: I guess root has no password (which is not the same as an password of length 0, just pressing enter), but somehow the username input got some other non-printable chars
[12:08] <Martin`> It has a password, I set it
[12:09] <Martin`> normal, he just accepts it
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[14:34] <Opinie> I tried to dd rootfs to a usb HD and was successful, but now raspbian imagines that the size of the USB HD is only 7.9 GB, when in fact it is 150 GB and that there is only 2.3 GB of free space.. how might I correct this?
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[14:35] <DarkTherapy> does anyone know if NFS shares work on XBMC on the pi?
[14:37] <jelly1> sure
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[14:37] <DarkTherapy> cool
[14:39] <Opinie> can anyone suggest some kind of fix to my problem? or even just suggest what sort of thing I should be googling for? I'm really stumped..
[14:39] <gordonDrogon> Opinie, best to not use dd for that sort of thing.
[14:39] <Opinie> oh
[14:40] <nid0> Opinie: you just need to expand the partition thats now on the disk
[14:40] <nid0> and then resize the filesystem to match
[14:40] <Joeboy> Opinie: If you used dd, the volume on the drive will be the volume of the image you dd'd
[14:40] <gordonDrogon> well - if you dd a live filesystem, it'll contain errors.
[14:40] <Opinie> right
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[14:40] <Opinie> nid0: how do I resize the filesystem?
[14:40] <gordonDrogon> usually not an issue - just an fsck to fix, but ...
[14:41] <gordonDrogon> personally, this is what I'd do: Firstly, I'd not bother, and I haven't bothered. It's one more thing to go wrong. Knock the usb stick out at boot ot run time and it's game over. You're just adding in more complexity for what benefit?
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[14:42] <nid0> Opinie: dfisk /dev/path-to-disk then delete the partition on the drive, create a new one using the full size of the disk, save it, reboot, then run resize2fs /dev/path-to-disk
[14:42] <Opinie> gordonDrogon: not having to get a decent SD card
[14:42] <nid0> dfisk = fdisk*
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[14:42] <gordonDrogon> however if I were doing it, I'd plug the usb stick in, make a new partition on it, mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sda1 ; mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ; cd / ; find . -xdev | cpio -pm /mnt
[14:42] <gordonDrogon> and off you go.
[14:43] <gordonDrogon> change /boot/cmdline.txt as required.
[14:43] <Opinie> I assume I can't do this, while running raspbian on the USB HD in question..?
[14:43] <gordonDrogon> no - boot it back off the SD.
[14:43] <Opinie> yeah ok
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[14:43] <Opinie> thanks, I'll try what you suggested in a few moments
[14:43] <gordonDrogon> but if you'vealready got it running on the usb device, then resize it.
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[14:44] <Opinie> gordonDrogon: while running it?
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> but dd'ing a live filesystem will introduce errors, but if it's booted then they're probably fixed.
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> yes, while running.
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> you'll need to make sure the partition is the full size, then run the resize command.
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[14:45] <gordonDrogon> sudo resize2fs /dev/sda1
[14:45] <Opinie> ok
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> what's the worst that can happen - you lose the usb drive and have to start again..
[14:45] <Opinie> gordonDrogon: yeah
[14:45] <Opinie> I'm not very worried about that to be honest
[14:45] <Opinie> I've plenty of backups anyway
[14:46] <Opinie> running resize2fs now
[14:46] <gordonDrogon> always good to have backups - and you have the original SD image anyway - assuming you've not done too much on the USB drive.
[14:46] <Opinie> nah, I haven't
[14:47] <DarkTherapy> talking of backups, how do I backup my current sd card?
[14:47] <DarkTherapy> as it is
[14:47] <gordonDrogon> I've taken the view that they're expendable.
[14:47] <gordonDrogon> so I put nothing important on them.
[14:47] <atouk> if you haven't reinstalled the OS at least 3 times, you're doing something wrong...
[14:47] <gordonDrogon> However,
[14:47] <gordonDrogon> I do this on mine:
[14:47] <DarkTherapy> lol, about 6 times in my case
[14:48] <Opinie> atouk: I think I'm on my fifth reinstall ;-)
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> dd if=/dev/zero of=/bigfile bs=8m
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> then delete the file.
[14:48] <DarkTherapy> ok..
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> then I put the sd card into my laptop and I run gzip on it to store in a file on my laptops drive.
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> and to re-create, I just zcat it to /dev/mmmxxmxmxmxm
[14:49] <DarkTherapy> easy ad that
[14:49] <gordonDrogon> filling it with zeros makes it compress better.
[14:49] <DarkTherapy> as
[14:49] <gordonDrogon> so if I nuke an SD card, I just restore from the last 'backup' I made.
[14:50] <DarkTherapy> thanks
[14:50] <gordonDrogon> my Pi's nfs mount /home when I'm at home, so all the data I store on them is actually on my server - which is backed up.
[14:50] <nid0> all thats on my sd cards is /boot
[14:51] <john_f> is 24 bit depth video playback currently possible?
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[14:59] <Joeboy> gordonDrogon: do you have any knowledge / opinions / speculations as to how to do audio in baremetal? Specifically how to set up the clock. I tried reading PWMCLK_CNTRL in raspbian and it looks like it's set to use PLLA, but I can't get anything out of it with that setup.
[14:59] <Joeboy> I *can* get tones out of it using the oscillator though
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> Joeboy, I'm afraid not. Don't even know how do use audio under Linux, really...
[14:59] <Joeboy> oh well
[15:00] <gordonDrogon> actually, yes, I can get tones out of my Pi too - squawks - by connecting speakers to the gpio pins and going back about 30 years :)
[15:00] <Joeboy> Can't find any kind of documentation of PLLA at all
[15:00] <Joeboy> I got some cool skrillex style bleeping, but not in a way I could predict or control
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[15:03] <xzr> just record that, add a heavy bassline and make millions
[15:04] <Joeboy> Not sure I could do it again. It was basically a result of random fuzzing of registers
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[15:08] <atouk> so if you give a million monkeys a million Pi's, and let them randomly set registers, eventually one will become the next skrilex? sounds abnout right
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[15:19] <TAFB> crazy question for you peeps that use "gems"? :) I'm trying to install gem of eventmachine but I need version 0.12.10 but when I do "sudo gem install eventmachine" it installs version 1.0.0 :( even if I use --pre it just installs version 1.0.0rc4 :(
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[15:25] <john_f> TAFB: gem help install shows the -v option for that
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[15:28] <john_f> TAFB: or specify it in your gemfile
[15:28] <TAFB> john_f: I'm new :(
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[15:29] <TAFB> ok, reading on -v :)
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[15:32] <Toothpick> how bad is it if my raspberry pi distribution does not have a swap partition?
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[15:34] <TAFB> my berryboot install broke the swap partition, I didn't want to run it without swap incase I needed more than 512mb ram :(
[15:34] <gordonDrogon> Toothpick, it'll be fine.
[15:34] <gordonDrogon> Toothpick, use a swapfile anyway.
[15:34] <Toothpick> what is a swapfile?
[15:34] <gordonDrogon> a file used for swap.
[15:35] <gordonDrogon> rather than a partition.
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[15:35] <TAFB> Toothpick: If your system runs out of ram, it'll use the swap like ram (just mouch slower).
[15:35] <Zencrypter> Hi everybody !
[15:35] <Zencrypter> For those of you who followed my printer trouble, I finally solved it !!!
[15:36] <TAFB> Printing? from the Pi?
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[15:36] <Zencrypter> You know, I wanted to share a printer with my three computers, and the Printer would be plugged on the Raspberry Pi
[15:36] <TAFB> rofl
[15:36] <TAFB> you crazy
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[15:36] <xzr> craaaazyyyyyy
[15:36] <Zencrypter> The trouble was that Samsung didn't develop any driver for ARM
[15:36] <Toothpick> TAFB: gordonDrogon: my system runs real slow, although in "free -m" there is much RAM left
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[15:37] <TAFB> Toothpick: real slow in what? lxde in a web browser?
[15:37] <Zencrypter> So, I found a solution !
[15:37] <Zencrypter> And the solution is usbredirector
[15:37] <ackthet> Zencrypter: cups lets you share printers
[15:37] <Toothpick> TAFB: ifconfig takes 5 seconds until it shows interfaces
[15:37] <Zencrypter> I redirected the USB port of my RPi on which the printer is connected
[15:38] <Zencrypter> So, I could see the printer on my computer as if it was plugged there
[15:38] <ackthet> Zencrypter: using cups might be a more elegant solution
[15:38] <Zencrypter> And I did install it with the drivers Samsung made for i386 architectures
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[15:38] <Zencrypter> ackthet, As I said, Samsung didn't produce the ARM driver
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[15:39] <Zencrypter> ackthet, So, I couldn't share it with CUPS
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[15:39] <ackthet> you could share it from the rpi -> all the other computers
[15:39] <TAFB> Toothpick: Run this and report time and speed: time sh -c "dd if=/dev/zero of=ddfile bs=8k count=125000 && sync"
[15:39] <Zencrypter> The printer kept printing "INTERNAL ERROR - Please use proper driver"
[15:39] <Zencrypter> ackthet, Yes, that's what I have done
[15:40] <Zencrypter> Using usbredirector, it now appears as a printer directly connected to USB
[15:40] <Zencrypter> On all the computers
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[15:40] <Zencrypter> Epic win :?
[15:41] <TAFB> nice work Zen
[15:41] <TAFB> you publish a wiki?
[15:41] <Zencrypter> Nope
[15:41] <Zencrypter> BTW, I just used a solution given there :
[15:42] <Zencrypter> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=8858&sid=5c47514b1f844c659325fe38013a772d&start=25
[15:43] <Zencrypter> (Answer by adrianeccles ? Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:23 pm)
[15:44] <Zencrypter> For those of you who are interested...
[15:44] <Zencrypter> ... enjoy :)
[15:44] <gordonDrogon> Toothpick, 5 seconds to run ifconfig? that is somewhat slow...
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[15:47] <Toothpick> probably a bit more
[15:47] <Toothpick> TAFB: how big is that file going to get?
[15:47] <JohnRambozo> Does anyone think its worthwhile to run a BBS in this day and age? A telnet bbs?
[15:48] <Zencrypter> BBS ?
[15:48] <JohnRambozo> haha
[15:48] <gordonDrogon> olde wordly bbs :)
[15:48] <JohnRambozo> bulletin board system... the classic ansi style from the 80's and 90's.
[15:48] <JohnRambozo> That was my original intent for my pi.
[15:48] <Zencrypter> Ok (^.^)'
[15:49] <Zencrypter> JohnRambozo, What do you want to do with it ?
[15:49] <Zencrypter> As far as I'm concerned, I plugged a 1TO hard drive with a usb adapter on my Raspberry Pi
[15:50] <Zencrypter> Now, I'm sharing the documents between our 3 computers (Dropbox-like) thanks to unison
[15:50] <TAFB> Toothpick: It's only 1gb, is the file still writing?
[15:50] <TAFB> Toothpick: What brand and model of SD card you using? lol
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[15:51] <Weaselweb> is the ARM running with slow clock? ;-)
[15:51] <Toothpick> TAFB: it's sony's
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[15:51] <TAFB> Toothpick: that's descriptive
[15:52] <Toothpick> it is ?
[15:52] <Weaselweb> TAFB: you forgot irony tags :)
[15:52] <TAFB> Toothpick: this one? http://store.sony.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=100803&storeId=20153&langId=200&productId=8198552921666437711
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[15:53] <Toothpick> TAFB: no, mine is 4GB
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[15:53] <Toothpick> i can pull it out but i'm installing NTP currently
[15:53] <TAFB> like from 1920 or did you is it "new"?
[15:53] <Toothpick> nope its not
[15:54] <TAFB> lol. It sounds like your SD card is uber crappy. I guess we'll know when DD is done ;)
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[15:54] <Toothpick> hehe
[15:54] <Toothpick> what would you recommend?
[15:54] <TAFB> use this list to find a fast card for the Pi.
[15:54] <TAFB> http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-sd-cards/IOMeter-2008.08.18,2708.html
[15:54] <TAFB> second from top of the line card: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi.jpg
[15:57] <TAFB> Toothpick: Just so you know, that command I told you to run, I just ran it on my Pi (not overclocked) with that Patriot EP 32gb card: 1024000000 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 68.2621 s, 15.0 MB/s
[15:57] <Toothpick> TAFB: it says SF-4C4
[15:57] <TAFB> took just over 60 seconds! lol
[15:57] <TAFB> Toothpick: k. let me check the specs
[15:58] <TAFB> I see the 4GB class 4 Sony SF-4C4 is specifically list as NOT COMPATIBLE WITH THE Pi
[15:59] <Toothpick> lol really?
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[15:59] <TAFB> do a google search for the model of your card, in quoted, lots of raspberry topics of peeps havin issues ;)
[16:00] <Toothpick> ok so how did you know its not compatible?
[16:00] <TAFB> "20 May 2012 ??? 4GB class 4 Sony SF-4C4 had same mmc0 issues"
[16:01] <TAFB> http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals
[16:01] <TAFB> ^^ has a pretty extensive list of good/bad SD cards.
[16:02] <TAFB> if you don't want a crazy 32gb card, try and find that Lexar Professional 133x (8GB, Class 6) card
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[16:04] <Toothpick> TAFB: how do i know which card is the fastest? :)
[16:04] <TAFB> that toms hardware link I gave you.
[16:04] <TAFB> the Patriot EP series is top notch
[16:05] <TAFB> The Sandisk Extreme (NOT hd video) are good too
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[16:06] <Toothpick> TAFB: what do you mean not HD video?
[16:06] <Toothpick> i happen to have a sandisk ultra (4gb), i guess i'll use it
[16:06] <TAFB> the sandisk ultra are horrible slow, might be better than what you're using, but not much
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[16:08] <TAFB> Toothpick: Sandisk, in an effort to complete with much cheaper cards, switched from their kick butt "Extreme" line, to "Extreme HD Video" card. They are great at squential writes (think digital camera, gopro, etc.) but SUCK when using them on an operating system.
[16:08] <ackthet> TAFB: i've not seen anything that wasnt slow on a pi <_<
[16:08] <ackthet> my SD card gets 30 MB/s max
[16:08] <TAFB> ackthet: haha. We're talking like 1mbps write speeds vs. 20-30 ;)
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[16:08] <ackthet> oh mang
[16:08] <Toothpick> TAFB: well, what if i want my RPi to be a streamer?
[16:08] <ackthet> i dont realyl do any disk IO except booting though so its ok
[16:09] <TAFB> ackthet: some of them REALLY suck, even nice new ones! My Lexar LX 32gb class 10, HORRIBLE! Look at that toms hardware link I posted, it's very last on the list :(
[16:09] <TAFB> Toothpick: are you going to be streaming from the SD card?
[16:09] <TAFB> a 4gb card?
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[16:09] <Toothpick> TAFB: i'll probably buy a bigger card
[16:10] <ackthet> TAFB: bizzar
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[16:10] <TAFB> Toothpick: Get the Patriot EB 32gb then, super big, RETARDED fast, both in sequential read/write plus IOPS
[16:10] <TAFB> Patriot EP sorry ;) lol.
[16:10] <TAFB> use caution with 64gb cards
[16:10] <Toothpick> why?
[16:11] <TAFB> Toothpick: My Patriot EP 64gb = no boot in the pi. It didn't even boot in my digital camera! I guess some ish doesn't do 64gb well.
[16:11] <ackthet> TAFB: nice url
[16:11] <TAFB> which one?
[16:12] <Toothpick> TAFB: wow its really expensive
[16:12] <TAFB> Toothpick: I buy them for $30USD all day long, usually $22 on sale.
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[16:12] <Toothpick> TAFB: is there a cheaper solution? will it be slower if i stream them from a 2TB WD hard drive?
[16:13] <TAFB> Toothpick: if the 2TB is formatted EXT4 it should be equal to the best SD card
[16:13] <TAFB> http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Memory-PEF32GSHC10233-Series-Class/dp/B007R9NJ6E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355497976&sr=8-1&keywords=patriot+ep
[16:13] <Toothpick> TAFB: really?
[16:13] <TAFB> Toothpick: Yep. I'm using a usb 2.0 raid array and it works good.
[16:14] <Toothpick> but the OS is on the SD card, common sense it probably will be slower to use another HD
[16:14] <TAFB> Toothpick: Nope, faster. You can be using the SD for OS stuff and HDD for media = faster performace.
[16:14] <Toothpick> then i'll probably use that solution :)
[16:14] <TAFB> I would still replace your sony 4gb. try the sandisk. you can't have your OS running on something that slow ;)
[16:15] <Toothpick> funny, the choice was, which SD card has the least important files that i can get rid of
[16:16] <Toothpick> :)
[16:16] <TAFB> lol. http://ecuflashking.com/upgrades.jpg
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[16:16] <Toothpick> haha
[16:16] <TAFB> maybe she can help you pick out an SD card? ;)
[16:16] <Toothpick> lol
[16:16] <Toothpick> she sure can
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[16:18] <Toothpick> TAFB: thanks very much for all the help :)
[16:20] <TAFB> Toothpick: No probs, hopefully you get it running tip top.
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[16:20] <TAFB> if you need to squeeze some extra performance out of it when you're all done and set up and test, let me know and I'll give you some sweet overlocking config.txt's
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[16:27] <megaproxy> anyone know anything about the pi and temp sensors?
[16:27] <TAFB> i know the cpu has a temp sensor built in
[16:27] <TAFB> that's all i know
[16:28] <TAFB> watch /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
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[16:28] <megaproxy> i mean like, 3rd party
[16:28] <megaproxy> so i can monitor things
[16:28] <megaproxy> good to know about the cpu one tho..
[16:28] <Zencrypter> And as we're talking about CPU and temperature...
[16:28] <TAFB> in my new aluminum case, my cpu is 37 degrees :) down from 50! lol. http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-13-RaspberryPi_new_aluminum_case_heatsink.jpg
[16:28] <Zencrypter> Has anyone tried underclocking ?
[16:29] <TAFB> Zencrypter: My CPU is underclocked to 500mhz when idle/low load, and scales to 1000 automatically when required. works sweet
[16:29] <gordonDrogon> Zencrypter, my Pi's are underclocked to 600MHz - but only by accident as I mis-typed it in one config file instead of 700 and I've not bothered to fix it.
[16:29] <Opinie> TAFB: why did you want it configured like that?
[16:30] <megaproxy> i just modifed the case RS sent my pi in..
[16:30] <gordonDrogon> I don't think there is any advantage to underclocking.
[16:30] <Zencrypter> TAFB, It really works well underclocking ?
[16:30] <yehnan> hello, the 220uF capacitor ("C6" on schematic) is off my rpi board. And the part is broken.
[16:30] <megaproxy> its super pink
[16:30] <TAFB> Opinie: Not sure, keep it cool when idle but fast and hot when required?
[16:30] <TAFB> yehnan: ROFL! Good luck on 220uF
[16:30] <TAFB> yehnan: Your Pi will still work, you just can't hot plug USB devices.
[16:30] <Opinie> TAFB: would your pi get alarmingly warm, if you just kept it at 1000 mhz all the time?
[16:31] <yehnan> I want to solder a electrolytic capacitor , but don't know which side should be facing board edge.
[16:31] <TAFB> Opinie: It bumps the CPU voltage and other stuff, I'd rather not "shorten it's life" when it's not doing any work.
[16:31] <Zencrypter> Because, you see, my raspberry pi is on 24/24 because it hosts my website (Nginx), a printer server (:?) and a sync system for my files...
[16:31] <Opinie> TAFB: can you paste your config?
[16:31] <Zencrypter> So keeping it at 700 MHz is not that useful
[16:31] <yehnan> TAFB: Although I have schematic of rpi, but I can't read it.
[16:32] <TAFB> Zencrypter: You don't even notice it underclocked. I ran it at 400 even. As soon as you run or launch something it goes right to 1000 so you don't even notice.
[16:32] <megaproxy> TAFB, mesure_temp
[16:32] <Zencrypter> I was thinking about underclocking it, at 100 MHz minimum, and using a governor to manage the frequency
[16:32] <megaproxy> how does this work
[16:32] <megaproxy> do i type the watch bit?
[16:32] <TAFB> yehnan: They were supposed to use 220, but used 47uF cause they were cheap. That's why the Pi reboots when you hotplug some devices.
[16:32] <megaproxy> or from /opt on
[16:32] <megaproxy> hm either way i do it it says "error =1 command not registered"
[16:32] <Zencrypter> So I was wondering whether what I planned to do was safe, whether the governor would act well on the system frequency
[16:33] <Zencrypter> TAFB, So, I may give it a try...
[16:33] <TAFB> Config.txt *warning, doesn't current work with Quake3*: http://pastebin.com/vUBx95qZ
[16:33] <yehnan> I want to solder a 220uF electrolytic capacitor, but don't know which side should be facing board edge. Would you please tell me?
[16:33] <Zencrypter> TAFB, Hoping it won't crash...
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[16:34] <TAFB> yehnan: One moment, I will test voltage on my Pi and tell you which way. gimme a min.
[16:34] <Opinie> does anyone know of a way to change the overclocking options of raspi-config? it'd be nice, if i could just change between, for example, TAFB's custom over-/underclock settings and other settings..?
[16:34] <TAFB> Zencrypter: It's been super solid on the 2 Pi's I've tried it on, where as raspi-config overclock to 1ghz corrupted the SD cards right away.
[16:35] <Opinie> http://srv.d
[16:35] <yehnan> TAFB: thanks a lot.
[16:35] <Zencrypter> TAFB, I'm just looking for underclocking :?
[16:35] <Zencrypter> TAFB, So, I won't go to 1 GHz :)
[16:36] <Zencrypter> TAFB, And is it important to set core_freq_min and sdram_freq_min ?
[16:36] <TAFB> yehnan: do you have a photo of your cap? Most caps are marked on the top with a black mark or side, if yours has that, it goes towards the edge of the board.
[16:36] <TAFB> Zencrypter: As you can see axion made me that, best to ask him.
[16:36] <Zencrypter> Ok ;)
[16:37] <TAFB> Zencrypter: whops, that's an old version of the file, I added notes to say it was built by axion
[16:37] <TAFB> cause I had 20 people ask me about it
[16:37] <Zencrypter> ^^
[16:37] <TAFB> http://pastebin.com/1aBsWs87
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[16:38] <Zencrypter> Thanks :)
[16:38] <TAFB> np, have fun :)
[16:38] <Zencrypter> I have to power off the computer...
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[16:38] <yehnan> TAFB: something like this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/35616101/ccc.jpg
[16:38] <TAFB> note that that config.exe is nowhere near voiding your warranty levels, and is much safer than the temp limit of 85 degrees in raspi-config ;)
[16:38] <Zencrypter> I've a physics test tomorrow...
[16:38] <Zencrypter> OH SHI- :?
[16:39] <yehnan> TAFB: so, the + should go towards the edge of board , right?
[16:39] <megaproxy> TAFB, i realised why cpu temp didnt work
[16:39] <Zencrypter> Thanks for your help ! Bye !
[16:39] <TAFB> yehnan: You're supposed to use a very special type of cap, you know that right?
[16:39] <megaproxy> i typo'd like a pro
[16:39] <megaproxy> ;)
[16:39] <TAFB> mega: nice
[16:39] <yehnan> TAFB: nope.
[16:39] <megaproxy> my pi is running a steady 50'c
[16:39] <yehnan> TAFB: special?
[16:39] <megaproxy> thats fine right?
[16:39] <TAFB> mega: you overclockin?
[16:39] <megaproxy> uh
[16:40] <megaproxy> i think this one may be 1ghz
[16:40] <TAFB> what's it sitting on, stove/oven?
[16:40] <TAFB> that'll do it ;)
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[16:40] <megaproxy> can i check while its on?
[16:40] <TAFB> mega: as long as it stays under 70 you should be ok, can you load test the cpu and gpu? quake3?
[16:40] <megaproxy> how do i load test?
[16:40] <TAFB> if you can play quake3 for 10 mins and it not crash, I think you're good to go.
[16:40] <megaproxy> oh
[16:40] <megaproxy> uh
[16:40] <megaproxy> got a link?
[16:40] <megaproxy> ill set it up
[16:40] <Opinie> TAFB: why under 70?
[16:40] <megaproxy> over 70 and things get cooking :P
[16:41] <TAFB> mega: Naa, things cook at 85 ;)
[16:41] <megaproxy> oh another question.
[16:41] <TAFB> at 1ghz I found instability over 70c
[16:41] <megaproxy> i have loads of 40mm server fans
[16:41] <TAFB> mega: I hope you do better than I did: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTY_ch2qNII&hd=1
[16:41] <megaproxy> can i power them off the pi pins?
[16:41] <TAFB> mega: Sucks to put noise fans on an otherwise silent Pi ;)
[16:41] <megaproxy> TAFB, these pi's will be behind tv's
[16:41] <megaproxy> in a office with 20 pc's and music on all the time
[16:41] <TAFB> yehnan: I have not forgot about you, trying to get the info for ya
[16:41] <megaproxy> it will be fine :P
[16:42] <TAFB> meag: Fans work great to cool Pi, use no heatsinks
[16:42] <Opinie> what exactly starts happening at 85? do some metal components start to melt or something?
[16:42] <megaproxy> TAFB, and i can power it off the gpo pins?
[16:42] <TAFB> Opinie: It sets a "flag" that prevents you from getting warranty replacement ;)
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[16:42] <Opinie> TAFB: ah
[16:42] <yehnan> TAFB: thanks. waiting...:)
[16:42] <TAFB> mega: You sure damn can! Be EXTRA careful, if you short out or reverse polarity = buy buy Pi, no protection.
[16:43] <TAFB> bye bye Pi
[16:43] <TAFB> I guess then you'll buy buy Pi ;)
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[16:45] <megaproxy> haha
[16:45] <megaproxy> i have spares.
[16:45] <megaproxy> is there certain pins i need to use?
[16:45] <TAFB> yehnan: Ok, you don't HAVE to, but the best cap to use is tantalum capacitor. Makes USB super stable.
[16:46] <TAFB> but in your picture, the white band with - sign goes towards edge of board, the other side goes towards label TP1.
[16:46] <TAFB> megaproxy: YEAH!
[16:46] <megaproxy> haha
[16:46] <TAFB> megaproxy: All the pins are 3.3v!!!! Only one is 5v ;)
[16:46] <megaproxy> ill be like the science dog
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[16:46] <megaproxy> no idea what im doing.
[16:46] <TAFB> one sec for image
[16:47] <megaproxy> ta buddy
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[16:48] <yehnan> TAFB: so... minus polarity should go towards board edge, am i right?
[16:50] <Opinie> TAFB: any particular reason for you keeping sdram_freq at 500 instead of the 600 of turbo mode?
[16:50] <gordonDrogon> why not check it with a multimeter to be sure?
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[16:51] <yehnan> gordonDrogon: I don't know how. :)
[16:51] <TAFB> yehnan: yep, as gordon said, if you have a volt meter touch it to the pins and check. Black to board edge, right to inside edge, should give you a positive reading on the meter.
[16:51] <TAFB> mega: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/Raspberry-Pi-GPIO-Layout-Revision-2-e1347664831557.png
[16:51] <TAFB> you have rev2 512b Pi?
[16:52] <yehnan> TAFB: no , mine is 256MB
[16:52] <TAFB> yehnan: I was talking to mega, sorry :)
[16:52] <buZz> mine is 256 aswell :((
[16:52] <TAFB> yehnan: for your purpose, type doesn't matter ;)
[16:52] <buZz> although i might be able to swap it! :D
[16:52] <TAFB> upgrade people, upgrade! Support the Pi foundation
[16:53] <buZz> hehe
[16:53] <buZz> yeah busy supporting cubieboard and odroid aswell :P
[16:53] <TAFB> ohhhh odriod :) nice boards
[16:53] <buZz> yeah will order soon
[16:54] <megaproxy> TAFB, i have both types of pi
[16:54] <buZz> once i've sold another 2-3 printers :P
[16:54] <megaproxy> will the pins change
[16:54] <Armand> Uuugghh... need ?250 to complete phase2 of my Pi project. >_<
[16:54] <megaproxy> :O
[16:54] <ackthet> so, has anybody here managed to build a arm-none-eabi gcc toolchain for rpi?
[16:54] <TAFB> megaproxy: Don't quote me on this, but between rev1 and rev2 I believe only the GPIO section of pins have changed, the power pins are the same.
[16:54] <megaproxy> whats the project?
[16:54] <Opinie> TAFB: there isn't any particular reason why you've kept sdram_freq at 500 right?
[16:54] <megaproxy> TAFB, so looking at that image
[16:54] <Armand> Solar-powered webhosting
[16:54] <megaproxy> i use pin 2 and 4?
[16:55] <megaproxy> Armand, i am highly interested in that
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[16:55] <ackthet> i asked about this last night and nobody had <_<
[16:55] <megaproxy> do you have a blog or anything?
[16:55] * megaproxy works in the webhosting buisness
[16:55] <Armand> megaproxy, www.baked-pi.co.uk
[16:55] <TAFB> Opinie: As I explained, I didn't make the config.txt, direct all questions to axion
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[16:55] <ackthet> i guess i can do it by hand <_<
[16:55] <Opinie> TAFB: ah sorry, didn't notice that
[16:55] <TAFB> megaproxy: 2 and 4? are you on crack?
[16:55] <megaproxy> no, just confused
[16:55] <megaproxy> :P
[16:56] <Armand> megaproxy, if you go into the forum.. my pricing for phase 2 is posted under General Discussion.
[16:56] <yehnan> TAFB: i'm going to solder now. Wanna make sure, polarity minus goes towards board edge, am i right?
[16:56] <TAFB> yehnan: sure, stand back the first time you fire it up, if you got it wrong those caps pop like fire crackers.
[16:56] <yehnan> TAFB: really? fire crackers?
[16:56] <megaproxy> Armand, scrap the cases
[16:57] <megaproxy> either build your own
[16:57] <TAFB> megaproxy: You need power and a ground, not two "powers". I believe my Pi is running off pin 4 and 6, lemme check. It's either 4 and 6 or 2 and 6 ;)
[16:57] <megaproxy> or use the ones RS send you, just cut bits out
[16:57] <megaproxy> TAFB, i will no doubt ask you all this again later
[16:57] <Armand> I can't, if I'm ordering from modmypi.. and, I'd rather have the cases for safety sake.
[16:57] <megaproxy> so may be worth waiting till then to check
[16:57] <TAFB> yehnan: They explode like crazy. Find a big cap one day and plug it into mains/power and see what it does ;)
[16:57] <megaproxy> im guna strap a fan on when i get home
[16:57] <megaproxy> Armand, use lego!
[16:57] <Armand> lol
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[16:58] <megaproxy> also for your DB server
[16:58] <Armand> I'll keep the cases, the modmypi ones are ok.
[16:58] <megaproxy> if you need a good host (in the uk) hit me up
[16:58] <megaproxy> ill give you a discout coz of awesome project
[16:58] <Armand> I'm building a PC based around a Q6600. ;)
[16:58] <megaproxy> oh nice :D
[16:58] <Armand> I want to keep everything in-house.
[16:58] <Armand> I'm fussy. :P
[16:58] <megaproxy> makes sense
[16:59] <Armand> Besides, it's a learning project as much as anything else.. so, I want to be hands-on.
[16:59] <megaproxy> ^
[16:59] <megaproxy> this
[16:59] <megaproxy> :D
[16:59] <megaproxy> its a real interesting project dude
[16:59] <Armand> It is. :)
[16:59] <megaproxy> i was going to get a solar thing for mine, but never got round to it
[16:59] <megaproxy> have you got a gallery of images or anything?
[16:59] <Armand> I'm starting a new job tomorrow.. which will become full-time, so I'll throw in some cash from that.
[17:00] <Armand> Sure, hold on.
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[17:01] <Toothpick> yo ,TAFB, i was thinking, what if my external HD is ext4 but it is a really old HD, it can't be as good as the best SD card right?
[17:01] <TAFB> Toothpick: it will still MURDER sd cards.
[17:01] <Toothpick> lol really
[17:01] <Armand> megaproxy, PM ok?
[17:01] <megaproxy> yea :)
[17:01] <TAFB> Super old IDE hard drvie, what was the write speed, 60mb/sec? What's the write speed on SD card, 20-30? lol.
[17:01] <Toothpick> haha
[17:02] <Toothpick> that's true
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[17:03] <Opinie> TAFB: I know you told me to direct my questions to axion, but I was just wondering, if you knew what h264_freq stands for as it wasn't mentioned in the oriignal config.txt?
[17:03] <lord4163> Hello
[17:04] <TAFB> Opinie: I believe it's the GPU graphics clock.
[17:04] <Opinie> ok thanks
[17:04] <lord4163> I thought the pi could play like HD 1080p and everything, I try to open a DVD and it just get's loaded and it ain't playing anything?
[17:04] <TAFB> lord4163: DVD is MPEG2, not 1080p
[17:04] <TAFB> lord4163: Have to pay for license to play DVD
[17:04] <lord4163> pay?
[17:05] <TAFB> lord4163: Pay license fee to MPEG group because of locked chip on Pi
[17:05] <lord4163> -_-
[17:05] <TAFB> or forget DVD and play h264
[17:05] <TAFB> you can convert your dvd's or MPEG2 files
[17:05] <lord4163> thought vlc was able to play any file
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[17:06] <TAFB> lord4163: If your CPU is fast enough to decode it, sure, but the Pi is not, so we need the GPU to decode it = have to buy license.
[17:06] <Opinie> also, you can't play video files with VLC on the pi, right? or does that work nowadays?
[17:07] <TAFB> right. VLC uses CPU only on the Pi = not good
[17:07] <lord4163> It seems not -_-
[17:07] <TAFB> have you looked at xbmc?
[17:07] <Opinie> omxplayer is also pretty simple
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[17:10] <lord4163> xbmc can't get installed
[17:10] <lord4163> not in the repo's or sth
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[17:10] <Opinie> yeah not via apt-get
[17:11] <Opinie> it requires a bit more effort
[17:11] <lord4163> gotta eat
[17:11] <TAFB> lord4163: eat safe
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[17:26] <yehnan> TAFB: soldering done. Testing...seems ok. more testing............. Thanks a lot.
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[17:27] <TAFB> yehnan: No explosions, good sign :) If you have a high drain device like a usb wifi adapter give it a hot plug and see if the Pi reboots :)
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[17:29] <xrosnight> hey. does anyone know any tools to generate dictionaries for passwords?
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[17:29] <TAFB> you can usually download large password dictionaries from torrent sites. That's where I got my ophcrack dictionaries.
[17:32] <xrosnight> TAFB, thanks
[17:32] <TAFB> np. good luck with your project
[17:32] <xrosnight> don't they have a tool to generate dictionaries according to the basic information?
[17:33] <xrosnight> TAFB, i am just want to get a Rasp pi server's password
[17:33] <jelly1> raspberrypi
[17:33] <jelly1> xrosnight: ^
[17:33] <TAFB> not sure, I always downloaded the super large one for the best chance at getting it. I guess it would severly cut down on the time required to run the dictionary, if you had stipulations (no capitals, etc.)
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[17:34] <TAFB> xrosnight: user pi password raspberry
[17:34] <TAFB> that one?
[17:34] <xrosnight> TAFB, obviously, everyone changes it
[17:35] <jelly1> xrosnight: your trying to break into people's raspberrypi?
[17:35] * TAFB hides his IP address and runs to his Pi's to change the password
[17:35] <xrosnight> jelly1, sort of. not offensively. i am just want to upload a php script to check out how the Pi runs over there
[17:36] <jelly1> huh?
[17:36] <TAFB> there are people who have their Pi's publically accessable on the net, I can put you in touch with them if you need to do some testing.
[17:36] <xrosnight> TAFB, thanks
[17:37] <jelly1> right
[17:38] <TAFB> jelly1: was that directed at me?
[17:38] <jelly1> no
[17:38] <TAFB> oh, k
[17:38] <TAFB> just checkin
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[17:41] <frikinz> I still have to finish configuring my honeypot first :)
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[17:52] <Davespice> guys, you know this Piana synth (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKQFsiDUH4A) - am I right in thinking that it requires the console in the lower part of that video? which is a product they're developing?
[17:53] <atouk> http://69.126.35.213:8000/ <-- have at it. let me know if you find anything
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[17:54] <TAFB> atouk: wtf is that?
[17:55] <nid0> with no remote ssh access on 22 he's probably not going to get very far
[17:55] <atouk> well, that should make it more of a challange
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[18:02] <TAFB> atouk: I'm going to try to make that work on Pancake with PHP. Hopefully I can make it run the shell_exec goodies.
[18:03] <gordonDrogon> why should a Pi connected to the Internet be any different from any other linux host connected to the Internet?
[18:03] <TAFB> atouk: Didn't see CPU usage on your list? Would be cool it if had a graph like temp :)
[18:04] <gordonDrogon> 2001:4d48:ad51:8901:ba27:ebff:febd:1edf <-- Have at that too :)
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[18:05] <gordonDrogon> nice little page that.
[18:05] <TAFB> fo sho
[18:05] <TAFB> I'm gonna try and make it work.
[18:05] <TAFB> I like "warranty bit" :)
[18:06] <buZz> warranty is a myth anyway
[18:06] <TAFB> why?
[18:06] <buZz> it guarantees you, that you dont actually OWN a device
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[18:06] <buZz> because you are not allowed to open & mod it
[18:06] * buZz voids warranty within 24 hrs of getting something new, usually
[18:06] <atouk> warranty bit just means you didn't mod it TOO much
[18:07] <gordonDrogon> a lot depends on country too...
[18:07] <gordonDrogon> her in the UK we have the sale of goods act which overrules any warranty a manufacturer may apply...
[18:07] <buZz> there hardly is any law to guarantee international warranty
[18:07] <buZz> because nearly _every_ law we have on this earth somehow wants us to be nationalistic
[18:08] <gordonDrogon> well, most countries do...
[18:08] <buZz> imho this is holding the development of humans back
[18:09] <Toothpick> buZz: i disagree
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[18:09] <Toothpick> buZz: if you really know what you are doing you would mod it anyway, not caring about the warranty
[18:09] <buZz> ok, time to eat some surinamic food to wash away this american softdrink
[18:09] <buZz> Toothpick: of course, i am not talking about this
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[18:11] <TAFB> atouk: How much would you charge me to SSH into my Pi and set up the status ish, with a fresh image of Wheezy and Pancake + PHP?
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[18:15] <atouk> hit me later and i'll do it for a fresh coffee
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[18:16] <TAFB> atouk: sounds good. I'll get my Pi re-imaged and set up, it's so screwed with me trying to get Ruby and Thin and eventmachien working :(
[18:17] <Hexxeh> TAFB: wrong attitude imho, big part of the fun is learning how to do this stuff yourself
[18:17] <TAFB> pffft. I need to get this ish up asap so I can do load testing for my customers. I'm out of time.
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[18:18] <atouk> i'll talk him through what i'm doing. sometimes it helps to see things done instead of reading to make it click
[18:18] <TAFB> it's only the shell_exec stuff I'm worried about, being a linux noob :) I usually just make the user account root and remove the password, but I see they stopped you from being able to do that ;)
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[18:19] <atouk> hit the link at the bottom of the page and see the README. it tells you in there what to do
[18:20] <TAFB> for Apache, I'm using Pancake :)
[18:20] <TAFB> i'll have a nap, re-image and give er a go ;) lol.
[18:20] <atouk> at work, so i'm only checking IRC if I walk by the computer
[18:21] <TAFB> np
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[18:22] <Laurenceb> has anyone tried using the standby modes on the smsc chip?
[18:22] <Laurenceb> looks like you can get down to 4ma current
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[18:22] <Laurenceb> as good as the model A ?
[18:26] <buZz> Laurenceb: awesome
[18:26] <buZz> plz investigate and document @ wiki
[18:26] <buZz> :)
[18:26] <Laurenceb> http://www.element14.com/community/mobile/mb-thread.jspa?thread=18844
[18:26] <Laurenceb> i only got idea from there
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[18:28] <Vlad> gordonDrogon: that looks like enta.net IPv6 space
[18:28] <Vlad> what's their IPv6 like now?
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[18:52] <gordonDrogon> Vlad, yes, enta.
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[18:52] <gordonDrogon> Vlad, it seems to work ok.
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> I'm connecting here via it too.
[18:53] <Vlad> this native?
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> Yes.
[18:53] <Vlad> last i checked they only did 6in4 tunnels
[18:53] <Vlad> difficult getting a /48 out of them?
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> they've been doing native for a few years now that I'm aware of.
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> I have a /56
[18:53] <Vlad> i've not checked for about 5-6 years :P
[18:54] <Vlad> had ADSL via them for ages though
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> I'm on their reseller program - not that I make much use of it, but it's handy at times.
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[18:55] <gordonDrogon> not sure if they have fixed it, but the reason they were reluctant to make it easier to get it was that it didn't go via their traffic shaping systems ...
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[18:58] <Vlad> gordonDrogon: probably a bit much to ask, but will they delegate my range so i can sort my own rDNS?
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[19:00] <Kane> o/
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[19:05] <megaproxy> http://imgur.com/a/tl3u6
[19:05] <TAFB> i like my aluminum one better, but yours was probably a bit cheaper :)
[19:06] <TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-13-RaspberryPi_new_aluminum_case_heatsink.jpg
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[19:08] <gordonDrogon> Vlad, I've been told that they can handle reverse DNS but I've no idea how they do it.
[19:09] <gordonDrogon> Vlad, I've still got reverse to sort out on my hosted /48 allocation yet (not enta)
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[19:11] <Toothpick> raspberry pi root partition - ext3 or ext4 ?
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[19:12] <nid0> 4
[19:12] <megaproxy> TAFB, mine was free
[19:12] <megaproxy> its what RS ship the pi's in
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[19:18] <axion> TAFB: hehe
[19:18] <axion> thanks man
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[19:19] <Amnesia> question, is anyone using mplayer on his/her rpi over here?
[19:19] <Amnesia> if so, what're your experiences with it..
[19:19] <axion> why would anyne do that?
[19:20] <axion> mplayer doesnt have openmax
[19:20] <Amnesia> cause mplayer is awesome?
[19:21] <axion> it is my faorite player ondeed...but its ot going to playback near fullspeed on the pi
[19:21] <Amnesia> hm ok
[19:21] <Amnesia> so omxplayer is the only alternative?
[19:21] <axion> or xbmc
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[19:21] <Amnesia> hm ok
[19:22] <Amnesia> http://kotelett.no/ac100/phh/Android2.1/Multimedia/mplayer.txt :O
[19:22] <PerJr> I know this isnt a raspbmc-channel, but does anyone know if they have fixed the issue where the Pi dies if you try to watch "large" images on it? (something about the pictures isnt rendered by the gpu)
[19:22] <axion> Amnesia: it would need to be speciifically built for the pi
[19:23] <Amnesia> ah ok
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[19:25] <lord4163> how did you get the temps of the pi?
[19:25] <axion> by using vcdgencmd
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[19:26] <axion> /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[19:27] <lord4163> 51.9 :(
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[19:27] <TAFB> lord4163: pretty toasty :)
[19:28] <axion> 61.1 here
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[19:29] <lord4163> what can the ARM processor handle?
[19:30] <TAFB> 70 if overclocked, 85 normally
[19:30] <lord4163> it's running on it's defaults
[19:31] <TAFB> then you got lots of room :)
[19:31] <TAFB> mine is sitting on top of a hot battery backup unit, does ok :)
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[19:34] <Amnesia> axion: are you using omxplayer?
[19:34] <axion> yessir
[19:34] <Amnesia> cause I think it might not be able to buffer, is that a correct assumption?
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[19:35] <axion> not sure, but i never had a problem streaming 1080p
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[19:36] <Amnesia> but are well, are you able to stream then?
[19:36] <axion> YES
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[19:36] <Amnesia> and if you are, what prtocol are you using to deliver the files?
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[19:37] <Amnesia> (I'm using http now)
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[19:38] <axion> ive tried youtube, HLS, etc
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[19:38] <axion> which are both http
[19:38] <Amnesia> hm ok
[19:39] <axion> Amnesia: omxplayer -o hdmi http://bglive-a.bitgravity.com/twit/live/high
[19:39] <phenom> Are you all getting bad pi's or is it just me?
[19:41] * phenom hears crickets
[19:41] <axion> seems like just you
[19:42] <axion> luckily RS includes a postage-paid return envelope
[19:42] <Amnesia> hm
[19:42] <phenom> apuuurantly
[19:42] <scummos^> what's the problem with yours?
[19:42] <Amnesia> my hard drive's not spinning up
[19:42] <Amnesia> is ethernet & a 2.5 " disk too much?
[19:42] <axion> dont spin it down....spindown wastes life
[19:43] <Amnesia> I attached it and now it's making strange noises..:p
[19:43] <axion> not good
[19:43] <axion> unmount the fs and backup your data immediately
[19:44] <axion> Amnesia: oh....yes a hard drive is too much for the pi to handle
[19:44] <phenom> Constant sd corruption. Using raspbian w/o overclocking. One(1st gen) was working OK for a couple weeks and then it started crashing constantly.
[19:44] <axion> you need an external powr source if yu are drawing more than 1 unit load per usb port
[19:44] <scummos^> maybe your sdcard is crap
[19:44] <phenom> I am using sandisk sdhc
[19:44] <Amnesia> hm
[19:44] <Amnesia> it's working fine on my laptop
[19:45] <scummos^> did you try different ones
[19:45] <scummos^> Amnesia: yes but your laptop has more power output.
[19:45] <Amnesia> only got one atm
[19:45] <axion> your laptop's usb ports probably support 2A
[19:45] <Amnesia> don't all 2.5" harddrives have about the same power requirements?
[19:45] <axion> 0.14 on the pi
[19:46] <axion> Amnesia: no
[19:46] <axion> most typially require 5 unit loads to spin up
[19:46] <phenom> scummos^: Between the two bad one's- yes. Admittedly, they both could be bad, but I have my other pi set up and don't want to bunk that SD too.
[19:47] <scummos^> phenom: how do you turn it off
[19:47] <phenom> turn the pi off? Pull out the plug :P
[19:47] <phenom> Power down if possible
[19:47] <phenom> # reboot
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[19:47] <scummos^> you should always umount the FS
[19:47] <scummos^> don't just pull the plug
[19:48] <scummos^> shut down the OS
[19:48] <scummos^> otherwise SD card corruption is not unlikely at all
[19:48] <Amnesia> so I guess most hd's don't work without a powered hub:P?
[19:48] <scummos^> Amnesia: I'd guess so too, yes.
[19:48] <phenom> scummos^: I understand, I don't think that is the issue at all however.
[19:48] <axion> none do, unless you're TAFB and bridge your pi's usb ports
[19:48] <scummos^> Amnesia: there's a lot of (esp. older) USB hard drivers with external power plug
[19:49] <scummos^> phenom: well possible, that was just an idea.
[19:49] <axion> Amnesia: 2.5's need a lot of power. 3.5's are self-powered. maybe get one of them if you dont want a usb hub
[19:50] <Amnesia> self powered:)?
[19:50] <axion> Amnesia: 2.5's need a lot of power. 3.5's are self-powered. maybe get one of them if you dont want a usb hub
[19:50] <axion> oops
[19:50] <axion> Amnesia: it is not recommended to power anything more than a kb/mouse from the pi
[19:50] <Amnesia> what exactly do you mean with self-powered..? 3.5" drivers also have an external power source..
[19:50] <Amnesia> ah k
[19:51] <axion> thats what i mean. 3.5" drives cannot run without their own power
[19:51] <phenom> scummos^: Got you, thanks for your input. I was talking to a guy who walked me through a few power tests and said one measurment was off.
[19:51] <Amnesia> ah k
[19:51] <axion> they are 12volts, not 5
[19:51] <Amnesia> ty
[19:52] <phenom> let me flash this again.
[19:52] <phenom> s/this/these/
[19:52] <phenom> blah
[19:52] <scummos^> phenom: which one?
[19:53] <phenom> scummos^: I'm going to reflash raspbian on the SD's
[19:53] <phenom> Both*
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[20:00] <Amnesia> axion: I'm using ssh to control it btw
[20:00] <Amnesia> perhaps that's why I'm not able to seek..
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[20:02] <Amnesia> hm nope, it does seek when it's located on the disk itself
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[20:12] <axion> Amnesia: sorry i missed your previous messages
[20:13] <Amnesia> np
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[20:20] <Amnesia> axion: I am able to seek when the file has been stored locally
[20:21] <dakerfp> Anyone ever used eglLockSurfaceKHR on RPi?
[20:21] <axion> Amnesia: huh?
[20:21] <Amnesia> -> omxplayer
[20:22] <axion> Amnesia: are you sure its not a live tv stream?
[20:22] <Amnesia> heh yes I am
[20:22] <axion> which link
[20:22] <Amnesia> something on my laptop
[20:22] <axion> remote link
[20:23] <Amnesia> nope a dedicated gigabit:)
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[20:23] <axion> ok so your file must not have any keyframes or incomplete
[20:24] <axion> seeking is encoded at the end of most video format files
[20:24] <Amnesia> well, mplayer is able to seek it on my laptop
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[20:24] <axion> omxplayer can seek anything i give it with the arrow keys
[20:25] <axion> check the .log file it created
[20:25] <Amnesia> will do
[20:25] <Amnesia> just a sec..
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[20:29] <dakerfp> Cheery: have you ever used eglLockSurfaceKHR on the RPi?
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[20:46] <Amnesia> axion: nothing regarding the fact that it can't seek
[20:46] <axion> other files?
[20:46] <axion> can you seek other files?
[20:47] <Amnesia> when they're stored on the sd card itself, yes
[20:47] <Amnesia> else, no
[20:47] <Amnesia> tried streaming multiple files
[20:47] <axion> can you seek other files?
[20:47] <axion> oops
[20:47] <axion> what network transport mechanism?
[20:48] <Amnesia> ethernet
[20:48] <axion> yes but how does your pi see the laptop
[20:48] <Amnesia> http:)
[20:48] <axion> raw http?
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[20:53] <JohnRambozo> is that a protocol? http smiley?
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[20:53] <Tyrrell> hullo again
[20:53] <Tyrrell> here with another question that's been prolly answered before
[20:54] <Tyrrell> any way to run a TOR end node of a Raspi?
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[20:55] <Amnesia> Tyrrell: ofc
[20:55] <Amnesia> wanna sniff traffic ><?
[20:56] <Tyrrell> uh.. no
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[20:56] <Tyrrell> just having never run a TOR end node was wondering how exactly one would go about doing so
[20:56] <Tyrrell> especially on my raspi which is doing approximately nothing
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[20:57] <axion> arch linux's wiki is amazing
[20:57] <axion> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Tor#Running_a_Tor_Exit_Node
[20:58] <Tyrrell> danke
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[20:59] <Amnesia> axion: heard of more people who aren't able to seek when stuff is being streamed:)..
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[20:59] <axion> which codec?
[21:01] <Amnesia> multiple, x64 for example
[21:01] <axion> i assume you mean h264?
[21:01] <Amnesia> eh yeah sorry
[21:01] <axion> hmm, without a video sample its hard to diagnose
[21:02] <Amnesia> just removed that -.-:p
[21:03] <megaproxy> Tabaliah,
[21:03] <megaproxy> sorry TAFB
[21:03] <megaproxy> TAFB are you about?
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[21:05] <megaproxy> mayeb someone else can help.
[21:05] <megaproxy> anyone have any idea how i can get a 3pin 40mm fan attached to mah pi@?
[21:06] <axion> voltage?
[21:06] <megaproxy> erm
[21:06] <megaproxy> 2 sec
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[21:06] <megaproxy> sticker says dc12
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[21:06] <axion> ouch
[21:06] <megaproxy> i guess that means no
[21:06] <megaproxy> haha
[21:06] <SpeedEvil> megaproxy: concrete
[21:06] <axion> not directly, no
[21:07] <SpeedEvil> a 12v fan will likely run slowly but adequately on 5v
[21:07] <megaproxy> Armand, mentioned using another power sorce
[21:07] <megaproxy> would probably be a good idea... if i had anything else to power it :(
[21:07] <axion> yes, my 12v fan over 5v barely spins but it works
[21:07] <Armand> Yeah, just feed it a direct 12v
[21:07] <axion> imo it is a waste of power unless you did some serious overvolting
[21:08] <Armand> Put about 2-3" gap.
[21:08] <megaproxy> i was going to put it on the pink case.
[21:08] <axion> why?
[21:08] <axion> is it overheating?
[21:09] <Armand> Buy a set of spacers and some perspex. ;)
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[21:10] <megaproxy> axion, no, but they probably will
[21:10] <megaproxy> they are being mounted behind tv's that are always on
[21:10] <axion> they?
[21:10] <megaproxy> and have been clocked up a bit
[21:11] <megaproxy> i have like, 6 boards or something
[21:11] <SpeedEvil> why?
[21:11] <axion> whats the temp reading after some while?
[21:11] <megaproxy> without being behind the tv
[21:11] <megaproxy> it topped about 55
[21:11] <megaproxy> i dont NEED to add a fan, but id like to
[21:11] <axion> dude thats perfectly fine
[21:11] <megaproxy> just because.
[21:11] <axion> mine runs stably (for 47 days now uninterrupted)...usually around 61C
[21:12] <megaproxy> im going to check the pi in the garage
[21:12] <megaproxy> to the ssh!
[21:12] <Armand> Mines been on over a month, at stock.
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[21:12] <megaproxy> whats the temp command again...
[21:12] <megaproxy> /opt/vc....
[21:12] <axion> mine is overclocked to 1000/500 cpu/gpu....61C is the highest ive seen it. and it can handle <85C
[21:13] <axion> ../bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[21:13] <megaproxy> ta
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[21:13] <Armand> watch "/opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp && cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq"
[21:13] <megaproxy> temp=28.2'C
[21:13] <megaproxy> who needs air con
[21:13] <megaproxy> when you havea garage and winter!
[21:13] <Armand> temp=45.5'C
[21:13] <Armand> In the living room.
[21:14] <megaproxy> temp=28.8'C
[21:14] <megaproxy> 700000
[21:14] * SpeedEvil sighs
[21:14] <megaproxy> whats the 7xxx
[21:14] <Armand> Clock speed
[21:14] <SpeedEvil> it's 10c in here
[21:14] <megaproxy> ah ok
[21:14] <Armand> 700MHz
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[21:15] <megaproxy> i do need to remake that server rack i built though
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[21:17] <axion> cat /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
[21:17] <axion> more accurate than vcgencmd
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[21:17] <megaproxy> 28786
[21:17] <megaproxy> i guess 28.786
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[21:17] <axion> yes
[21:17] <megaproxy> word, nice :)
[21:17] <axion> very
[21:18] <megaproxy> indeed
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[21:29] <megaproxy> what would cause my pi to only use 700mhz
[21:29] <megaproxy> when in config.txt its set to 800
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[21:32] <steve_rox> did the wifi manager in wheesy ever work within X session?
[21:32] <deni> hi guys. does anyone have issues with sd card CN Memory SDHC class 10 (16GB)?
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[21:32] <steve_rox> "not authorized to control networking " error , oh joy
[21:32] <deni> i'm getting the infamous 110 error waiting for hardware error
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[21:33] <deni> it would be great if anyone would provide feedback on this. as i'm mostly in the dark about it
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[21:34] * rikkib is off to Auckland to install two RPi over the next few days.
[21:34] * rikkib back next week... Bye folks.
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[21:35] <steve_rox> have fun
[21:35] <deni> i tried using the kernel.img and start.elf from the github repo but that didn't help
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[21:36] <deni> or should i upgrade the firmware? i have an old 2gb card that works fine. i can boot into it and run firmware upgrade from there
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[21:36] <deni> what do you think?
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[21:42] <axion> megaproxy: ondemand :D
[21:43] <megaproxy> watwat
[21:43] <axion> read the wiki page please
[21:43] <megaproxy> for what
[21:43] <axion> you dont have turbo mode on in other words
[21:43] <megaproxy> im confused
[21:43] <megaproxy> OH the clock thing?
[21:43] <axion> your question ^^
[21:43] <megaproxy> aaaaah nice one :D
[21:43] <megaproxy> axion++
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[21:45] <megaproxy> axion, sorry to ask... could you link to the page?
[21:45] <megaproxy> i cant find it :X
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[21:46] <damo22> is anyone interested in a script that builds a recent pi kernel from source and creates a tarball that contains sources configured for compiling out of tree modules?
[21:48] <damo22> once you untar it into / there are a couple of steps remaining to do on the pi to make it boot the new kernel and prepare the source tree
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[21:49] <damo22> it doesnt affect your firmware
[21:50] <axion> megaproxy: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=raspberry+pi+config.txt
[21:51] <megaproxy> if i could alt3232 in here
[21:51] <megaproxy> i wou ld
[21:51] * megaproxy look of dissaproval
[21:51] <megaproxy> also, apprently there is no turbo mode in arch?
[21:51] <megaproxy> im relaying messages here..
[21:51] <megaproxy> lol
[21:51] <axion> wth are you on about?
[21:52] <axion> userspace has nothing to do with the configuration of the arm core
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[21:52] <damo22> ?
[21:52] <axion> in regard to turbo mode on arch
[21:52] <damo22> i see
[21:53] <damo22> it could be the arch kernel
[21:53] <axion> no
[21:53] <axion> it is not
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[21:53] <damo22> lars_t_h: welcome
[21:54] <megaproxy> axion, idk?
[21:54] <megaproxy> as i said, this is not my pi
[21:54] <megaproxy> im relaying the messages
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[21:56] <damo22> cross compiling pi kernel is fun, but id really like one that can see both halves of my ram minus 16Mb
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[21:58] <damo22> s/like one/like to build one
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[22:00] <TAFB> axion: you do any work with your config.txt and quake3?
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[22:03] <axion> TAFB: not yet sorry. but i am pretty sure its not my config. we both have different issues re: quake
[22:03] <axion> i am almost positive mine is a power issue rather than heat or o/c issue
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[22:03] <TAFB> ahhh, okies :)
[22:04] <axion> i have a lot plugged into my hub...i'll do some testing when i finish my work and can reboot my pi
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[22:04] <dr_willis> speaking of power. Should one avoid these 2A usb power supplies? They charge my phones real fast..but im afraid they may be too much for the Pi.
[22:04] <Aivaras> Hey guys, my raspberry seams to be up to date, but I still can't set it to 512MB ram :/
[22:05] <axion> use as much amperage as you can
[22:05] <TAFB> dr_willis: no such thing as too much for the Pi ;)
[22:05] <axion> 2A is plenty
[22:05] <TAFB> dr_willis: I'm using 10A ;)
[22:05] <axion> im using 5!
[22:05] <dr_willis> Found several Travelocity brand 2A phone chargers for $8 the other day.
[22:05] <dr_willis> Guess i should buy them all next time i find them on clearance
[22:06] <TAFB> dr_willis: The microUSB cable you use is almost as important as the power supply http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNDeQMNCOiw&hd=1
[22:06] <dr_willis> The one that came with my Kindle Fire is also like 2A i think. It should work as well i imagine.
[22:06] <axion> pi requires 0.5, typically uses slightly more under load, especially if clocked higher
[22:06] <axion> each device attached uses even more
[22:06] <TAFB> dr_willis: the best micro USB cables for the Pi on earty: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5458&seq=1&format=2
[22:06] <Aivaras> I am using my usb 3.0 laptop port and have no idea how much does it give :D
[22:07] <TAFB> usb3 gives lots
[22:07] <dr_willis> I have noticed with chargeing my phone and tablets.. theres a lot of cruddy cables out there.
[22:07] <axion> indeed. measure test points..never go by specs...they lie
[22:07] <TAFB> dr_willis: I bought two cables, from two different places, neither would run my Pi. Found my original Blackberry cable that came with my phone, works beautiful. I cut open the two crappy cables, 30 gauge (tiny) power wires :(
[22:08] <Aivaras> So how to set it to use 512 ram?
[22:08] <axion> bbl
[22:08] <TAFB> Aivaras: What does cat /proc/meminfo say?
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[22:09] <Aivaras> TAFB, MemTotal: 237872 kB
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[22:09] <dr_willis> its amazeing the box's of USB chargers and cables ive accumulated..
[22:10] <TAFB> Aivaras: What is the number written on top of your ram chip?
[22:11] <Aivaras> TAFB, is it samsung one or other?
[22:11] <TAFB> the big one
[22:11] <pksato> Aivaras: grep gpu_mem /boot/config.txt
[22:11] <Amnesia> anyone running openelec here..?
[22:12] <dr_willis> here we go.. first boot on my new pi i just got today. ;)
[22:12] <lars_t_h> hi damo22
[22:12] <CelticTurnip> morning all
[22:12] <TAFB> dr_willis: good luck, hopefully it stays powered up
[22:12] <damo22> lars_t_h: hey, you are the dude who wrote jack?
[22:12] <TAFB> good afternoon CelticTurnip
[22:13] <dr_willis> hooked to a 42 Inch tv. ;) thats required isent it? ;) Using a 1.7A supply from my Kindle Fire.
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[22:13] <lars_t_h> CelticTurnip, good afternoon, it is 22:13 here (in Denmark, Northern Europe)
[22:13] <TAFB> 42" that's it? http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/RaspberryPi_can_you_spot_it.jpg
[22:14] <damo22> lars_t_h: i am trying to run jack on rpi
[22:14] <TAFB> Aivaras: Any luck reading the code off your chip?
[22:14] <lars_t_h> damo22, no I did not - but I am doing FOSS development
[22:14] <damo22> lars_t_h: oh ok, are you not the same person i was discussing about oss?
[22:15] <lars_t_h> damo22, good luck with that - jack is not easy to configure
[22:15] <Aivaras> TAFB k4p4g324eb-agc1 I think
[22:15] <TAFB> Aivaras: Ok, that's good news, 512MB ram chip :)
[22:15] <lars_t_h> no, damo22
[22:16] <damo22> lars_t_h: no problem, i have it almost working, but i get a bus error with my rpi + usb sound card
[22:16] <TAFB> Aivaras: What does it say when you run: grep gpu_mem /boot/config.txt
[22:16] <Aivaras> tafb - there is no gpu_mem in file
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[22:16] <Aivaras> TAFB, I need all ram to system and none to ram.
[22:16] <Aivaras> none to GPU*
[22:17] <lars_t_h> damo22, the usvb device driver has bugs, you should look for updated drivers
[22:17] <TAFB> Aivaras: leaving out the GPU split makes it pick a big number ;)
[22:17] <lars_t_h> *s/usvb/usb
[22:17] <pksato> Aivaras: put gpu_mem_512=16 in config.txt
[22:17] <damo22> lars_t_h: you mean the host controller driver or the usb sound driver?
[22:18] <lars_t_h> damo22, the host driver had or still has bugs
[22:18] <damo22> lars_t_h: i am aware of that, the dwc_otg or something
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[22:18] <lars_t_h> true, damo22
[22:19] <damo22> lars_t_h: i heard freebsd fixed most of it
[22:19] <damo22> ie, on their os
[22:20] <TAFB> Aivaras: let me know if adding the gpu spit to config.txt does not solve your problem, I have some commands you can run to update the Pi firmware.
[22:20] <lars_t_h> damo22, some of the FreeBSD core devs are really good kernel programmers
[22:20] <Aivaras> pksato, still I don't have 512
[22:20] <Cheery> dakerfp: I haven't
[22:20] <damo22> would not surprise me, netbsd is amazing os
[22:20] <Cheery> dakerfp: I didn't really knew about it anyway
[22:20] <pksato> Aivaras: You can not use 512MB to CPU, GPU need min. 16MB.
[22:21] <Aivaras> pksato, OK, but it is using that 16 from 256
[22:21] <damo22> Aivaras: i have same problem
[22:21] <TAFB> Aivaras: what's your: cat /proc/meminfo say now (total)?
[22:21] <damo22> Aivaras: i am compiling a kernel that should fix this problem
[22:21] <Aivaras> MemTotal: 237872 kB
[22:21] <TAFB> ok, run these commands: sudo apt-get install ca-certificates
[22:21] <damo22> Aivaras: but if you just want it to work and dont need kernel sources, you can get hexxeh
[22:22] <TAFB> Aivaras: then run: sudo wget http://goo.gl/1BOfJ -O /usr/bin/rpi-update && sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/rpi-update
[22:22] <pksato> no matter if is as 256MB or 512MB version. need to set minimum of 16MB to GPU.
[22:22] <TAFB> Aivaras: then run: sudo rpi-update
[22:22] <TAFB> Aivaras: When those three commands are finished, give it a reboot and you should have 512mb :)
[22:22] <pksato> or, need to update firmware and kernel.
[22:24] <Aivaras> it will make ram setting permanent or just to my memory card?
[22:24] <TAFB> just to memory card
[22:24] <damo22> Aivaras: the ram is permanently one size
[22:25] <damo22> :P
[22:25] <CelticTurnip> ^__^
[22:25] <Aivaras> yeah, but acsesing it seams to be not so permanent.
[22:25] <damo22> Aivaras: correct, therefore it is software dependent
[22:25] <TAFB> Aivaras: If you re-wrote the SD card with whatever image you used before, you would be back to 512mb.
[22:25] <Cheery> dakerfp: it seems like simple enough
[22:25] <TAFB> if you are writing it with latest wheezy image, you should have 512.
[22:25] <Aivaras> to 256
[22:25] <TAFB> Aivaras: are you running those commands? let me know when done and reboots, should have all 512 :)
[22:26] <Cheery> dakerfp: you lock the surface and get the address.
[22:26] <damo22> i want the same effect as hexxeh's kernel+firmware but i also need sources
[22:26] <Aivaras> TAFB, yeah it is doing something.
[22:26] <TAFB> ok, I think I forget you might need to run: sudo apt-get install git-core
[22:26] <damo22> almost there
[22:26] <Aivaras> TAFB, yeah it said that :)
[22:26] <TAFB> lol, whops :)
[22:26] <CelticTurnip> you do know none of you have asked him what image he's running, which firmware, you're just spamming commands with little to know idea of what he's doing (or she) :P
[22:26] <deni> there seems to be quite a few "fixme's/should's/might's/assumes's" in the sdhci source
[22:27] <deni> :D
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[22:27] <TAFB> CelticTurnip: Who's not running Wheezy on the Pi? ;)
[22:27] <CelticTurnip> me
[22:27] <Aivaras> I first booted arch
[22:27] <TAFB> rofl
[22:27] <damo22> CelticTurnip: what do you run?
[22:27] <damo22> i was running freebsd 10 last week
[22:27] <CelticTurnip> Plan 9 at the moment :P
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[22:27] <CelticTurnip> it's just not normal :)
[22:28] <dr_willis> i need moar sd cards now...
[22:28] <dr_willis> ;) this thing can boot from usb flash? i have several of them laying about
[22:28] <TAFB> dr_willis: buy good ones! http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2011-sd-cards/IOMeter-2008.08.18,2708.html
[22:28] <deni> dero: ping
[22:28] <TAFB> dr_willis: nope, can boot from sd only but OS can be on flash
[22:29] <dr_willis> got some of the 'amazon basics class 10' the other day. 32gb for $20 thatws what im using now
[22:29] <TAFB> dr_willis: Spend $7 extra on amazon and buy the best ;)
[22:29] <damo22> Amazon Kindle = Amazon Swindle
[22:29] <TAFB> dr_willis: http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Memory-PEF32GSHC10233-Series-Class/dp/B007R9NJ6E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1355520575&sr=8-1&keywords=patriot+ep
[22:30] <dr_willis> problem is - the wife and kids are always taking them for their tablets. and phones. ;)
[22:30] <TAFB> dr_willis: if they take SD their ish will fly with that card. let everyone enjoy the best cards, not slow crappy corrupting garbage cards
[22:30] <Aivaras> yeah! I have all the ram I paid for! :D Thanks guys :)
[22:31] <TAFB> Aivaras: Just call me the linux support king ;)
[22:31] <TAFB> glad it's workin for ya
[22:31] <SpeedEvil> nexus 4/7 solves that dr_willis
[22:31] * CelticTurnip bows to the king :P
[22:31] <pksato> dr_willis: use berryboot to load OS from a USB storage.
[22:31] <damo22> TAFB: can you get me sources too?
[22:31] <damo22> for that kernel
[22:31] <dr_willis> ok. one step at a time. :) booted to the desktop. now to configure wireless.
[22:31] <damo22> and the config while you're at iut
[22:31] <damo22> it*
[22:32] <Aivaras> TAFB, You just proved that you know how to do something specific to Raspberry pi, not linux in general. So sorry - I can't :D
[22:32] <TAFB> Aivaras: I know nothing, it was a joke. you're lucky I didn't just fry your Pi ;)
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[22:32] * CelticTurnip bows to the honest king :)
[22:33] <TAFB> lol
[22:33] <Aivaras> TAFB, I don't run commands that I have no idea about :D
[22:33] <CelticTurnip> yeah you do, or you what have fixed that yourself :P
[22:33] <TAFB> when I first asked for help in the linux forum, they gave me a command that deleted my boot partition. was not cool :(
[22:34] <Aivaras> heh
[22:34] <CelticTurnip> ouch, that's a nice intro :)
[22:34] <TAFB> yeah :(
[22:34] <TAFB> lol.
[22:34] <damo22> this is depressing, i compiled the same revision kernel as hexxeh. it boots but doesnt give me 512
[22:34] <Aivaras> my fist time formated my whole hdd... :D
[22:34] <TAFB> so I came here, and although someone here told me to run the same command, I knew better.
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[22:34] <TAFB> damo22: you and your kernel problems. Nothing like sudo compile kernel --maxmem=512 or something?
[22:35] <CelticTurnip> seriously? I hope an op banned the tool that tried that on you :)
[22:35] <damo22> can someone help me find the patch for 3.2.27 that enables the other half of the ram in linux?
[22:35] <TAFB> ***DO NOT RUN*** sudo rm -rf / --no-preserve-root
[22:35] <TAFB> ^^ was that one :(
[22:35] * CelticTurnip runs
[22:35] <Aivaras> :D
[22:35] <TAFB> it was you! you bastard!
[22:36] <CelticTurnip> lame, that command doesn't work here...
[22:36] * TAFB checks #linux logs for same name...
[22:36] <CelticTurnip> it wasn't me, I hate Linux :P
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[22:36] <Aivaras> if you hate linux it is one more reason to tell someone do so :D
[22:37] <CelticTurnip> the chance of me, a BSD user hanging out n #Linux is about zero :)
[22:37] <TAFB> if I want to run headless, can I disable the entire GPU, so it uses NO memory?
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[22:39] <CelticTurnip> why that command no work
[22:39] <Aivaras> What is connector marked 'C1' on pcb?
[22:39] <AeroNotix> DON'T TOUCH C1
[22:39] <CelticTurnip> Sorry, user celtic is not allowed to execute '/bin/rm -rf / --no-preserve-root' as root on soekris
[22:40] * CelticTurnip cries
[22:40] <AeroNotix> it's the self-destruct pin
[22:40] <Aivaras> No, really what is that?
[22:40] <AeroNotix> I dunno
[22:40] <Aivaras> ...
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[22:40] <TAFB> Aivaras: C1 is either for camera or LCD display, can't remember which.
[22:41] <Aivaras> OK, so more options :)
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[22:42] <TAFB> Aivaras: The Pi foundation is coming out with some add-on's in the future. An inside source showed me a prototype of the camera for it, 5 megapixel motorized zoom lens, kind of like microscope type camera. Looked sweet.
[22:44] <Aivaras> I will be using ultrasonic sensors instead of camera. I think webcam data would be a bit too hard to process.
[22:44] * cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccy_RegeaneWolf
[22:45] <TAFB> "disable_l2cache disable ARM access to GPU's L2 cache. Needs corresponding L2 disabled kernel. Default 0 " that would free all available GPU memory?
[22:45] <Aivaras> There is way to find out. :D
[22:45] <CelticTurnip> :)
[22:45] <TAFB> lol
[22:45] <TAFB> where to find L2 disabled kernel ;)
[22:46] <Aivaras> You claimed to be king. :D
[22:46] <Aivaras> Now prove that
[22:46] <Aivaras> and compile some scripted kernel
[22:46] <TAFB> is there a command to view GPU memory?
[22:47] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: and you still haven't helped me... I want to run that command, but it's not work :(
[22:47] <CelticTurnip> I'm demoting you to prince :P
[22:48] <adb> CelticTurnip, run it as root , not as user
[22:48] <CelticTurnip> yeah still won't work
[22:49] <adb> which OS ?
[22:49] <CelticTurnip> OpenBSD 5.2-stable :(
[22:49] <CelticTurnip> got no --command action :(
[22:49] <CelticTurnip> *sucks*
[22:49] <Aivaras> How awesome is that? raspberry rebooted after connecting new device :/
[22:49] <CelticTurnip> I'm going to say not awesome?
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[22:50] <TAFB> Aivaras: It's due to undersized and crappy C6 capacitor :(
[22:50] <adb> heh stable , try w/o --
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[22:50] <TAFB> Aivaras: Avoid hot plugging high drain (er any) usb devices
[22:50] <CelticTurnip> adb: cheers, will do
[22:51] <CelticTurnip> I wonder what it does...
[22:51] <Aivaras> TAFB, I see plenty of space there I could add one more in parallel
[22:51] <CelticTurnip> bah doesn't do anyt
[22:51] <TAFB> Aivaras: Good plan, use tantalum capacitor, minimum 200uf :)
[22:52] <CelticTurnip> yeah whatever makes my hard drive light go on
[22:52] <CelticTurnip> good command
[22:52] * CelticTurnip watches it
[22:52] <Aivaras> I don't have tantalum ones now. electrolyte ones will do :)
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[22:52] * adb start openbsd in vbox ..
[22:53] <TAFB> Aivaras: They don't respond fast enough to prevent Pi reboot on hot plug usb, will be of no use.
[22:53] <dakerfp> Cheery: could you check this out https://gist.github.com/4288977 ?
[22:53] <dakerfp> it's failing on eglLockSurface :-(
[22:54] <Aivaras> TAFB, I believe that I will find one that will be fast enough.
[22:54] <CelticTurnip> adb: gotta say I'm amazed the "mean" people could find anyone to run that, no disrespect TAFB - it's kind of like me emailing you and saying "This is a virus email... now please format your drive" :)
[22:55] <CelticTurnip> but TAFB the fact you fell for it only makes your more worthy as my king
[22:55] <TAFB> Aivaras: let me know how it works out. I'm about to order a case of monster tantalum ones, would be nice if electrolytic worked :)
[22:55] <CelticTurnip> *you :P
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[22:55] <Aivaras> TAFB, I have some low ESR from old GPUs and motherboards
[22:55] <TAFB> nice
[22:56] <Aivaras> But it will be after holidays. :D
[22:57] <adb> CelticTurnip, hm , rm get me 'Device busy' ..
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[22:57] <Aivaras> use sudo :D
[22:58] <adb> as root
[22:58] <Aivaras> then device is busy :D
[22:58] <adb> ro
[22:58] <adb> remount it ro , i means
[22:59] <CelticTurnip> :)
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[22:59] <scummos^> hm, anybody familiar with microstrip antenna design? ;p
[23:01] <TAFB> nope, I like yagi :)
[23:03] <adb> CelticTurnip, but it worked ;) , nothing to boot hahha
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[23:05] <Aivaras> does it have mA limit per port or just total?
[23:06] <TAFB> Aivaras: The Pi? Is it 512mb rev2?
[23:06] <Aivaras> yeah
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[23:06] <TAFB> then the USB port current is limited by the F3 poly fuse. About 200ma total shared between the ports, possibly a hair more.
[23:07] <Aivaras> then powered hub is must have. :/
[23:07] <TAFB> I bridged my F3 poly fuse (solder a wire from one side to the other), plug ran USB jumper wires direct to the USB power pins. I can pull 3000ma shared between the ports :)
[23:07] <TAFB> http://i.stack.imgur.com/eU2tt.jpg
[23:07] <TAFB> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/340/how-much-power-can-be-provided-through-usb
[23:08] <Aivaras> wire from fuse to other fuse side would not be enough?
[23:09] <TAFB> it kinda is, but the traces on the board are so thin, they don't support much current at all before voltage drop
[23:09] <TAFB> if you jumper F3 plus just bridge your USB power pins like this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/LDQuV.jpg
[23:09] <TAFB> (but do top two pins too!)
[23:10] <TAFB> I find it'll run 99% of usb devices.
[23:10] <TAFB> I have two 2.5" USB externall HDD's I run from the Pi, no way it'll run those without the jumper wires ;)
[23:10] <Aivaras> Thanks - that may be usefull :)
[23:10] <Aivaras> two at once?!
[23:10] <TAFB> I needs me the storage :)
[23:10] <TAFB> and I don't like USB hubs ;)
[23:11] <Aivaras> No one likes them.
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[23:11] <TAFB> my web/email server: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-09-RaspberryPi_is_finished.jpg
[23:11] <TAFB> i like them clean ;)
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[23:13] <steve_rox> it appears to be a pi on top of a ups
[23:13] <Aivaras> pi needs that large UPS. :D
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[23:14] <steve_rox> indeed
[23:14] <TAFB> Aivaras: it was left over from my monster server the pi replaceed, so I kept it :)
[23:14] <Aivaras> :D
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[23:14] <TAFB> save me some money on my electricity bill, that's fo sho :)
[23:14] <Aivaras> how?
[23:15] <Aivaras> You charge it at work? :D
[23:15] <TAFB> my servers are at my house ;)
[23:15] <steve_rox> unless you hotwire a solar cell to the battery inside?
[23:15] <JohnRambozo> the pi uses a lot less energy.... ?
[23:15] <TAFB> rofl John :)
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[23:15] <JohnRambozo> isn't that the answer? ;)
[23:16] <TAFB> JohnRambozo: should have just slapped him with a fish
[23:16] <steve_rox> so how long does the ups power it for?
[23:16] <JohnRambozo> classic fish slapping.
[23:16] <piney0> i wonder what the ups power consumption is vs the raspi and peripherals.
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[23:17] <TAFB> steve_rox: the software says 6.5 days at 6 watts, but if I unplug the Pi, switch and router so it says 0 watts, it still says 6.5 days, so I'm not really sure it can calculate it for a load that low :)
[23:17] <Aivaras> UPS screen uses more then pi itself :D
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[23:17] <TAFB> the screen sleeps unless it's doing AVR or running on battery or I push the button
[23:17] <steve_rox> you need to increase the load with someone gradually to work out its minimum runtime on anyvalue it reads
[23:17] <steve_rox> maybe it can be calculated somehow then
[23:18] <TAFB> steve_rox: I'll just unplug it and see when my pings die on my computer and calculate run time
[23:18] <steve_rox> ah
[23:18] <Toothpick> my Gentoo system complains about the clock skew and won't keep the ./configure action, has anyone experienced this before?
[23:18] <steve_rox> whats the internal battery capacity?
[23:18] <TAFB> 1300va
[23:18] <steve_rox> thats the ups ratein :-P
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[23:19] <steve_rox> i mean battery capacity
[23:19] <Aivaras> and capacity should be in Ah :D
[23:19] <TAFB> steve_rox: that's all I kno
[23:19] <TAFB> oh, I just put in a new one, I'll find the invoice, one sec.
[23:19] <steve_rox> i have 2 ups but the batterys long gone in em
[23:20] <steve_rox> ups just acts as a master kill safty switch on pc now and a desklamp
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[23:20] <Aivaras> my laptop has quite nice UPS. :)))
[23:20] <Aivaras> portable and stuff. :D
[23:20] <TAFB> battery looks like this: http://pictures.kyozou.com/pictures/_12/11333/11332080.jpg
[23:21] <piney0> i went with a 16.5 vac transformer powering a 12v 5a power supply with a 12v 7ah battery. that's connected to an lm2596 to step it down to 5v. unscientificaly i got over 20 hours on the pi running off the battery with normal headless usage.
[23:21] <steve_rox> two lead acid batterys
[23:22] <Aivaras> is there any ups that have not lead acid batteries?
[23:22] <steve_rox> no idea
[23:22] <piney0> they look 7-12ah, more like 7
[23:23] <steve_rox> be interesting to see how long it lasts running a pi idle and underload :-)
[23:23] <TAFB> piney0: I was going to run my Pi off this flashlight: http://kaidomain.com/product/details.S020383
[23:23] <piney0> Aivaras, what don't you like about the lead-acid batteries?
[23:23] <TAFB> that flashlight is full UPS :)
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[23:24] <piney0> that flashlight looks interesting
[23:24] <TAFB> puts out 2.5amsp. uses super efficient circuit inside for maximum runtime.
[23:25] <TAFB> I would use these batteries in it: http://www.intl-outdoor.com/2-pcs-panasonic-ncr18650b-3400mah-protected-battery-p-605.html
[23:25] <TAFB> should run em for a while ;)
[23:25] <Aivaras> piney0 the only thing I like about them is price.... :)
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[23:25] <TAFB> piney0: confirmed, the batteries in my UPS are 7000mah x 2 :)
[23:26] <piney0> if weight isn't an issue, i prefer those sealed gel type lead-acid batteries over lipo
[23:26] <TAFB> I have a lithium battery in my motorcycle :)
[23:26] <TAFB> 2LBS instead of 13LBS :)
[23:27] <Aivaras> if price is not and issue I prefer anything but Pb :D
[23:27] <Aivaras> TAFB, damn use metrics. :D
[23:28] <TAFB> pffft. whatever. I'm in Canada, land of metric, but for weights, I dun use it :)
[23:28] <TAFB> http://www.shoraipower.com/s.nl/it.A/id.98/.f
[23:28] <TAFB> supplier lists it in LBS, that's what I use ;)
[23:28] * Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk
[23:28] <Aivaras> I am in uk - they claim to be using metrics... they use imperial units. :D
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[23:29] <Aivaras> But it is quite funny. Some fluids are in l and some ar in pints. :D
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[23:31] <TAFB> damn motoroil here, is in quarts. WTF? My bike needs 2.4L of oil, how many quarts is that!??! AHHHH!
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[23:32] <piney0> glad i don't have that issue, my bike doesn't take motor oil :)
[23:32] <dr_willis> = 2.27124707 liters
[23:32] <dr_willis> according to google.
[23:33] <TAFB> piney0: Bike needs oil to make vrumm vrumm noises! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHPGnl7vpB0&hd=1
[23:33] <piney0> unless you got a 2 stroke, then it's oil in the gear box
[23:33] <Aivaras> does bikes have that stuff as in cars that have MAX and MIN on it? :D
[23:33] <TAFB> Aivaras: Sure damn do!
[23:33] <piney0> and the gas tank
[23:33] <TAFB> My new bike has a glass window so you can check the oil without even pulling the dip stick.
[23:33] <timmmaaaayyy> anyone in here use openelec?
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[23:34] <Aivaras> nice. :)
[23:34] <dr_willis> timmmaaaayyy: not used it on a pi yet.. ;) just got my Pi today
[23:34] <dr_willis> timmmaaaayyy: used it on a pc befor
[23:34] <timmmaaaayyy> ah ok. i can't find the .img to dd onto the sd card
[23:35] <piney0> yea, mine isn't that fast
[23:35] <dr_willis> timmmaaaayyy: openelec has a special script that puts it on the sd card. I looked at their directions earlier
[23:36] <dr_willis> http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php?title=Installing_OpenELEC_on_Raspberry_Pi
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[23:36] <TAFB> piney0: I removed the limiter from my bike so it can go 316kph instead of 298kph :)
[23:36] <Toothpick> anyone has any experience with gentoo here?
[23:36] <timmmaaaayyy> dr_willis: if you click the mac tab, the instructions don't work
[23:36] <timmmaaaayyy> there is no .img to use
[23:37] <dr_willis> I dont own a mac. so never looked at the mac directions. ;)
[23:37] <Joeboy> Toothpick: I used to run it a long time ago, not on a pi
[23:37] <timmmaaaayyy> oh???.lol, well that's all i have
[23:37] <dr_willis> it is weird how openelec does their images.
[23:37] <dr_willis> Im not sure why they do it that way with a script
[23:37] <timmmaaaayyy> and i can't use the linux method because it requires "parted" so it doesn't work on the mac
[23:37] <piney0> TAFB, mine goes a little over 100mph, but doesn't stop fast. - rear brake is drum, front is 2 caliper disc. not bad for it's age
[23:38] <TAFB> piney0: scary :)
[23:38] <piney0> part of the thrill :)
[23:38] <TAFB> my bike, when you pull on the brakes, you squeeze them as hard as you can without blacking out, feels like your eyeballs are going to come out of your head, then right when you're about to pass out you let them go and tip it into the corner :)
[23:39] <Toothpick> Joeboy: do you know why it says here http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi that putting /usr/portage on squashfs will speed up things dramatically?
[23:39] <piney0> TAFB, i got a '74 yamaha rd350. i got a thing for 2 stroke bikes
[23:40] <TAFB> piney0: Nice! I was sooo close to buying Aprilia (SP?) RS250... so close.
[23:40] <piney0> TAFB, when i get some extra cash, a buddy of mine is selling me his '84 yamaha rz350 ypvs.
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[23:41] <piney0> TAFB, oh, those are nice, not allowed here tho. too new :(
[23:41] <TAFB> piney0: They are not allowed here either, but some how some company can fudge the registration, so it says 1982 aprillia instead of 2012 aprillia ;)
[23:42] <piney0> TAFB, interesting
[23:42] <Joeboy> Toothpick: I guess because that'll mean it won't have to read so much from the card
[23:42] <TAFB> piney0: very ;)
[23:42] <piney0> they are so powerful for a 250
[23:42] <Toothpick> Joeboy: isn't squashfs like a regular fs but compressed?
[23:43] <TAFB> off the line they make most 600's here look silly, not much top end, but amazing accelleration :)
[23:43] <Joeboy> Toothpick: Yeah, pretty much
[23:43] <Joeboy> Toothpick: with squashfs you won't have to read so much from the card, which is slow
[23:43] <Joeboy> Toothpick: or I assume that's their reasoning anyway
[23:43] <Toothpick> Joeboy: how does that make sense?
[23:43] <Joeboy> Toothpick: reading less data is faster than reading more data?
[23:44] <Toothpick> no.. if it's squashed how does that mean the RPi will read less?
[23:44] <Joeboy> Toothpick: it will read the smaller, compressed data from the card (faster), then decompress it
[23:45] <Toothpick> aha
[23:45] <Joeboy> Toothpick: presumably the total amount of time to do the reading and decompression is less than if you read it uncompressed
[23:45] <Toothpick> Joeboy: nice one, thanks :)
[23:45] <Joeboy> Toothpick: Glad that makes sense, was starting to doubt my sanity
[23:46] <Toothpick> lol
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[23:50] <TAFB> yay. Pancake is workin :)
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[23:53] <megaproxy> TAFB, i played in sketchup :P
[23:54] <megaproxy> http://i.imgur.com/7RpTY.png
[23:54] <TAFB> megaproxy: how dare you
[23:54] <TAFB> i use sketchup for speaker boxes :)
[23:54] <megaproxy> sizing up a 2u case :P
[23:55] <TAFB> should use microSD half height adapters so the SD cards don't stick out ;)
[23:55] <TAFB> What I wanted to do was put 24 of them INSIDE a 24port managed switch, so much room in there, such good ventalation :)
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[23:57] <TAFB> hmnmm. when you install Pancake, it doesn't run on startup... kinda odd for a web server :) lol
[23:58] <Toothpick> what is the big difference between XBMC and any other media player ever exists?
[23:59] <megaproxy> indeed
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