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IRC Log for 2012-12-17

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[0:00] * Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
[0:01] * jthunder (~jthunder@174.3.126.51) Quit (Quit: jthunder)
[0:02] * TAFB_eatin is now known as TAFB
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[0:03] <pksato> powering rpi from GPIO pins, and no more sudden reboot.
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[0:12] <TAFB> home: it's dynamic overclocking, it'll bump up to 1ghz as soon as you put any load on it. run xwindows and you'll see it bump up. To read current actual cpu speed: watch cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
[0:12] <TAFB> pksato: congrats :) GPIO power is awesome.
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[0:14] <pksato> and, made a clip to bypass F2
[0:15] <TAFB> F3 you mean?
[0:15] <pksato> F2, one of usb port.
[0:16] * AeroNotix (~xeno@aatr120.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) Quit (Quit: Uploading hax.....)
[0:16] <TAFB> F2 only on old revision board?
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[0:17] <pksato> TAFB: yes. My pi is a early version.
[0:17] <TAFB> pksato: ahhh, that makes sense :)
[0:19] * mdim (~user@c-98-202-219-86.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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[0:19] * PiBot sets mode +v erack1
[0:20] <megaproxy> TAFB, http://bedserv.com
[0:20] <megaproxy> thats on my pi :d
[0:20] <TAFB> megaproxy: wow, nice template! i like
[0:21] <erack1> should a raspberry pi output video with no sdcard inserted?
[0:21] * yinkum (~yinkum@cpe-72-135-30-188.kc.res.rr.com) Quit (Quit: yinkum)
[0:21] <TAFB> erack1: nope
[0:21] <TAFB> erack1: only outputs video upon sucessful boot from SD card.
[0:21] <erack1> ah ok
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[0:22] <erack1> what about microsd cards in an sdcard adapter? im not having any luck with that
[0:22] <erack1> tried 2 different adapters
[0:22] <erack1> since i don't have any sdcard handy
[0:22] <TAFB> erack1: had some issues myself. how are you writing the image to the sd card?
[0:22] <atouk> not booting, or corruption
[0:22] <erack1> not booting
[0:23] <erack1> using a windows app
[0:23] <atouk> raspbian?
[0:23] <erack1> yea
[0:23] <TAFB> ok, format SD card FAT32 and try my diagnostic image, just unzip files to the root: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/TAFB_diagnostics_bootcode.zip
[0:23] <atouk> what are you powering it with
[0:23] * Nolaan (~nolaan@78.193.54.211) has left #raspberrypi
[0:23] <erack1> a recommmended wall adapter
[0:24] <erack1> thnx tafb i'll try that
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[0:24] * AeroNotix (~xeno@aatr120.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) Quit (Client Quit)
[0:24] <TAFB> erack1: the quality of the MicroUSB cable has a lot to do with it too :) use a volt meter to check TP1 to TP2 voltage if possible: http://elinux.org/images/d/d1/RPI_Test_Points.JPG
[0:25] <JohnRambozo> Synchronet compile attempt #2 now underway.
[0:25] <TAFB> JohnRambozo: wut u compilin?
[0:25] <JohnRambozo> Synchronet. its that bulletin board software.
[0:26] <TAFB> JohnRambozo: ahhhh... bbs, brings back memories :)
[0:26] <TAFB> does it use ansi graphics?
[0:28] <megaproxy> TAFB, so how do i get that cool stats page working
[0:28] <TAFB> megaproxy: I updated the readme.txt, please re-download
[0:29] <megaproxy> ta
[0:29] <megaproxy> uh
[0:29] <TAFB> you need to add www-user to admin thingie to make php be able to make exec calls
[0:29] <megaproxy> got a link?
[0:29] <megaproxy> lol
[0:29] <megaproxy> :D
[0:29] <TAFB> emga
[0:29] <TAFB> http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/
[0:29] <TAFB> at bottom
[0:29] <TAFB> lick for source
[0:29] <atouk> that's dirty
[0:29] <TAFB> megaproxy: did you install pancake and php?
[0:29] <megaproxy> yea :)
[0:30] <TAFB> can you view the sample pancake page?
[0:30] <megaproxy> yea, that doku wiki i linked earlier is hosted on it
[0:30] <TAFB> oh, spiffy :)
[0:31] <TAFB> is that doku wiki stuff free? I'd like to do my Wiki on my Pi, instead of on your server with wordpress. You know, if it's Pi wiki I better be running it on the Pi dammit!
[0:31] <[SLB]> maybe do a sed -e '/^#/d' of boot/config.txt
[0:31] <TAFB> SLB: I like spaces ;)
[0:32] <TAFB> SLB: You'd probably puke if you ever saw my php code!@
[0:32] <[SLB]> eheh
[0:33] <megaproxy> TAFB, what am i doing with the js thing?
[0:33] <megaproxy> TAFB, doku is opensorce afaik
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[0:33] * PiBot sets mode +v E1ven
[0:33] <TAFB> megaproxy: Oh, ignore that. If you got my zip file phpChart is already compiled :)
[0:33] <megaproxy> ohrite
[0:34] <axion> TAFB: yeah i am pretty sure its a power issue. my config is perfect :)
[0:34] <TAFB> axion: Another user reported quake3 not functioning after loading my config.txt :(
[0:35] <megaproxy> TAFB, it errors :(
[0:35] <megaproxy> http://bedserv.com/stats/
[0:35] <megaproxy> ohhhh i need to change the dir..
[0:35] <TAFB> yeah, the dir's are wrong
[0:35] <axion> when the gpu cranks on for v3d it must use a lot more juice than just openmax->kernel for video
[0:35] <TAFB> i'm runnig it in host root ;)
[0:36] <TAFB> axion: could be possible.
[0:36] <megaproxy> and its fixed
[0:36] <TAFB> megaproxy: wow, nice work! did you install wiringpi?
[0:36] <axion> TAFB: i bet you can fix it by overvolting more...or maybe getting rid of the min=0...both void waranty i think...but mine already is so i will test soon
[0:36] <TAFB> I like my warranty bit in tact thanks ;)
[0:37] <JohnRambozo> tafb: yes. i had a bbs running in windows but retired the machine. The pi is helping me to revive it.
[0:37] <JohnRambozo> tafb: thats yes to ansi.
[0:37] <TAFB> JohnRambozo: would like to see it when it's ready :)
[0:37] <JohnRambozo> tafb: I'll be sure to give you the link.
[0:38] <megaproxy> TAFB, i did not
[0:38] <axion> at the moment i am trying to write an egl surface so i can start displaying gl graphics (i'm a game developer). egl is quite a pain on the pi though
[0:38] <TAFB> megaproxy: do it for proper board detection and pinouts ;)
[0:38] <JohnRambozo> tafb: i'm just hoping i can get the doors working with dosemu.
[0:38] <home> crap
[0:38] <home> ap mode failed
[0:38] <scummos> raspberry pi controlled delay line for RF signals: http://i.imgur.com/n0zhc.png (still needs to be built) ;)
[0:38] <home> now I can even ssh into rpi XD via ethernet
[0:38] <home> crud
[0:38] <TAFB> megaproxy: Your Pi is cooking!! where do you have it?! :)
[0:39] <scummos> (the connectors in the bottom are for different length coax cables)
[0:39] <TAFB> scummos: looks freak
[0:39] <TAFB> freaky
[0:39] <scummos> nah it's actually pretty simple. it's just 6 switches.
[0:39] <megaproxy> TAFB, in a little plastic tub behind a screen :P
[0:39] <TAFB> megaproxy: Oh yeah, that's you :) give er some air man!
[0:39] <megaproxy> i want to add a fan
[0:39] <megaproxy> but its 12v :(
[0:40] <TAFB> megaproxy: is your CPU forced to 950mhz? lol. nevermind, there's the heat.
[0:40] <megaproxy> wat
[0:40] <megaproxy> its clocked up a bit, but forced?
[0:40] <TAFB> yeah, not using dynamic overclocking to keep things cool when the pi isn't doing much.
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[0:40] * PiBot sets mode +v jxriddle
[0:40] <TAFB> it can run at 400 and bump to 950 (or 1ghz) when required. keeps it cool :)
[0:41] <TAFB> megaproxy: Lots of 12v fans work awesome on 5v, nice and quiet
[0:41] <megaproxy> ohreally?
[0:41] <megaproxy> what pins do i use? I think youve told be before
[0:42] <TAFB> to pull power for the fan? pin 2 and 6: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/Raspberry-Pi-GPIO-Layout-Revision-2-e1347664831557.png
[0:42] <megaproxy> my fan has 3 pins...
[0:42] <megaproxy> D=
[0:42] <TAFB> one is RPM sensor, you don't use
[0:42] <TAFB> yellow you usually don't use
[0:42] <megaproxy> ah ok
[0:43] <megaproxy> now if only i had some breadboard..
[0:43] <TAFB> you could probably run rpm sensor to one of the other gpio pins and read it's speed :)
[0:44] <pksato> some 12V fan can not start with 5V.
[0:45] <TAFB> pksato: is true, that's why I said "some" ;)
[0:45] <megaproxy> wat. ok how else can i power easily
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[0:45] * PiBot sets mode +v dividedbyzer0
[0:45] <TAFB> your LCD screen, is it 12v input?
[0:46] <megaproxy> my pi has no screen :(
[0:46] <pksato> metal piece and plastic clip to bypass F2 https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/Pe8PJ-JR98IQUZJqb3wUldMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0
[0:47] <TAFB> megaproxy: "in a little plastic tub behind a screen :P"????
[0:47] <megaproxy> oooooh, well its a tv
[0:47] <pksato> usb cable to power from gpio https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/MWT41S6N4v7NXoBdmaNEjdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0
[0:48] <megaproxy> i just stuck it behind it out of the way
[0:48] <TAFB> pksato: so you can remove it and go back to stock if you want?
[0:48] <TAFB> megaproxy: Ahhhhh I see what you mean.
[0:49] <pksato> cabe connected to gpio header https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/gagGP5Bjr7y-nc0n0DrPJdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0
[0:49] <megaproxy> im going to install varnish on the pi
[0:49] <TAFB> megaproxy: they make little 5v to 12v voltage booster things, can't remember what they are called. should handle a low current fan
[0:49] <megaproxy> see if i can get the stats page to load quicker
[0:49] <pksato> F2 bypass can be removed.
[0:49] <TAFB> pksato: Nice thick GPIO power wires, good job :)
[0:49] <pksato> no solder, no modification marks.
[0:49] <TAFB> megaproxy: The stats page loads slow because of the 1000 php shell_exec calls
[0:50] <megaproxy> http://bedserv.com/stats2/index.php
[0:50] <megaproxy> that one is slow too
[0:50] <megaproxy> infact
[0:50] <megaproxy> it wont even load
[0:50] <megaproxy> lol
[0:50] <TAFB> megaproxy: to make it load faster, have it load the values to environment variable on boot, only do a few shell exec calls to pull the memory, or setup a crontab job to do it and webpage would load instantly.
[0:50] <pksato> plastic tab glued to prevent wrong insertion https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/UcxfzxSVkyMhNz4cEBblANMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0
[0:51] <TAFB> pksato: great thinking. we already know of one user that nuked his Pi through gpio :(
[0:51] * wiiguy (~fake@unaffiliated/wiiguy) Quit (Quit: I just broke my connection, but no worries, we can rebuild it. We have the technology.)
[0:52] <pksato> I am working on some gpio protection.
[0:52] <TAFB> megaproxy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jT92R6uT9_o
[0:52] * mythos (~mythos@unaffiliated/mythos) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[0:52] <megaproxy> i may just use a old server psu
[0:53] <megaproxy> short it
[0:53] <TAFB> that'll give you 12, but only when the fans are running :(
[0:53] <megaproxy> hm
[0:53] <megaproxy> infact, ill strip a old 1u server and fill it with pi;s
[0:53] <dr_willis> hmm. I got a few small external fans powered by usb ports.
[0:53] <megaproxy> and fans
[0:53] <megaproxy> for luls
[0:53] <TAFB> remember that some power supplies let you run 7v loads (+12v to one wire of the fan, +5 to the other), to make the fan quieter
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[0:54] <megaproxy> server psu's
[0:54] <TAFB> dr_willis: he's not sure if his 12v fan will work at 5v
[0:54] <megaproxy> nothing is quiet about them
[0:54] <TAFB> megaproxy: you're causing shame to the Pi. setup must be quiet ;)
[0:54] <megaproxy> im used to datacentres haha
[0:55] <dr_willis> it is weird sitting here at my pc.. and its not making any noise...
[0:55] <scummos> why use a fan
[0:55] <megaproxy> scummos, why not?
[0:55] <scummos> if you want to improve thermal, you can just add a passive cooler, no?
[0:55] <scummos> that will be way enough probably
[0:55] <megaproxy> i could
[0:55] <megaproxy> but then id have to order it, wait for it etc
[0:55] <megaproxy> i just want to play
[0:55] <scummos> glue a fork onto it
[0:56] <megaproxy> lool
[0:56] <TAFB> megaproxy: you're running very old firmware on your Pi!!?
[0:56] <scummos> or a knife, that has a larger area
[0:56] <megaproxy> am i?
[0:56] <TAFB> megaproxy: yep
[0:56] <TAFB> look at my stats page
[0:56] <megaproxy> oh, you are right. i havent updated it
[0:56] <megaproxy> haha
[0:56] <megaproxy> whats the command again?
[0:56] <TAFB> hexxeh
[0:56] <TAFB> get on it.
[0:56] <Hexxeh> what what
[0:56] <megaproxy> this pi is like, from when they first came out time
[0:56] <megaproxy> only just got it out the box the other day
[0:56] <TAFB> https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update
[0:56] <Hexxeh> i don't update that repo
[0:57] <Hexxeh> dom does
[0:57] <dr_willis> heh. i got heatsinks from work that are the size of a large book.
[0:57] <TAFB> after you do that, run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[0:57] <dr_willis> I place them on the wood stove for more surface area for the fans to blow across for better heating
[0:57] <TAFB> dr_willis: nice, energy efficient
[0:58] <pksato> heat sink and fan to make noisy and chilly Raspberry Pi. :P
[0:58] <dr_willis> They got those Mini-fridge/ice chests. that run from 12v that can hold a 6pack of sodas
[0:58] <TAFB> my Pi is chilly, no fan, but good case/heatsink: http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/
[0:59] <TAFB> Hexxeh: Am I running the newest firmware (check above link)
[0:59] <Hexxeh> you can't tell just from that
[0:59] <TAFB> Nov 22 2012 18:09:58 Copyright (c) 2012 Broadcom
[1:00] <TAFB> version 352766 (release)?
[1:00] <TAFB> no?
[1:00] <Hexxeh> oh, missed that bit (gonna blame the blue curacao)
[1:00] <TAFB> lol
[1:00] <Hexxeh> not sure off hand, don't have a running Pi to hand
[1:00] <TAFB> i see :)
[1:01] <atouk> blue curacao. good choice
[1:01] <Hexxeh> never had it before today. boy was i missing out...
[1:01] <TAFB> Hexxeh: so rpi-update is still getting updated? Will get latest firmware?
[1:01] <Hexxeh> yes
[1:01] <TAFB> Hexxeh: ok, good to know, thanks :)
[1:01] <home> Error mounting: mount: block device /dev/mmcblk0p2 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[1:02] <home> wth
[1:02] <TAFB> home: some SD cards have a little write protect switch ;)
[1:02] <pksato> or, fs corruption.
[1:02] <Hexxeh> large glass, 1 part blue curacao, 1 part absinthe, 1 part lemonade
[1:02] <Hexxeh> enjoy.
[1:02] <home> or ^
[1:02] <Hexxeh> make sure it's 170 proof though.
[1:03] <TAFB> home: I have a garbage Kingston sd card, every time i put it in the Pi, it clicks it to read only :)
[1:03] <TAFB> 170 proff? yikes :) good for starting fires, that's about it though!
[1:03] <home> what the hell :/
[1:03] <home> I need to edit /boot/config.txt
[1:03] <Hexxeh> that'd be a waste... :(
[1:03] <home> I messed something up
[1:03] <home> and now the pi is not worknig :D
[1:03] <atouk> didn't james bond drink that (in the original ian fleming books)
[1:03] <TAFB> home: you can edit /boot/config.txt on ANY computer.
[1:04] <home> I can't
[1:04] <home> its not letting me
[1:04] <home> keeps saying its read only
[1:04] <TAFB> home: you check sd card little clicky read only switch?
[1:04] <pksato> computers, smartphone, tables, etc...
[1:04] <home> TAFB: I checked it
[1:04] <TAFB> home: okies
[1:05] <home> nvm
[1:05] <home> it worked now
[1:05] <home> weird
[1:05] <home> I guess the switch thing worked
[1:05] <home> weird
[1:06] <TAFB> if it gets pushed even a bit towards read only, it'll cause that. you need to click it all the way to read only and then back, then it works :)
[1:06] <TAFB> sometimes gotta pull sd card out and back in reader for it to let you write after that.
[1:06] * akiwiguy|away is now known as akiwiguy
[1:06] <home> trying to turn my lil RPI into an AP :/
[1:06] <home> harder than it seems..hmm
[1:06] <TAFB> home: good luck :) So source internet by ethernet, then AP over usb wifi adapter?
[1:06] <[SLB]> the pi won't intercept the read only mechanical switch on the sd
[1:07] <TAFB> SLB: he was using it in a computer card reader ;)
[1:07] <[SLB]> ah ok
[1:07] <home> ^
[1:07] <home> minisd :/
[1:07] <home> or microsd was it..urgh
[1:07] <TAFB> I like the microSD "half height" adapters, fits FLUSH in the pi :)
[1:07] <TAFB> I'ma get one if the performance of the cards are good
[1:08] <home> well
[1:08] <home> its still not working
[1:09] <home> the ethernet lights did not come on
[1:09] <home> link and 10M
[1:09] <home> darn
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[1:09] <TAFB> home: if voltage is low, ethernet will not power up
[1:09] <home> it was working all this time
[1:09] <home> btw, I have no screen
[1:09] <home> so that really makes it hard to debug :/
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[1:10] * PiBot sets mode +v mythos
[1:10] <[SLB]> i'd fsck and restore the boot partition
[1:10] <home> really? ...
[1:10] <home> how would I do that :D XD
[1:10] <[SLB]> you have a backup of it, right? :3
[1:10] <home> nope
[1:10] <home> and I regret it now
[1:10] <home> BAD
[1:11] <home> I installed so MUCH to get wifi and python+ opencv working
[1:11] <[SLB]> do you have a /boot.bak folder on the second partition?
[1:11] <home> Error mounting: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mmcblk0p2,
[1:11] <home> missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[1:11] <home> In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[1:11] <home> dmesg | tail or so
[1:12] <home> the /boot works..
[1:12] * Alfihar (~Yuuka@siberios.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Bye Bye)
[1:12] <[SLB]> hm.. try to fsck -fC both of them see what happens
[1:14] <home> I think I fixded /dev/mmcblkop2
[1:14] * felipealmeida (~user@mvx-187-16-79-187.mundivox.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[1:14] <home> was able to mount it
[1:14] <home> HOW TO MAKE A BACKUP?!
[1:15] * Mr_P (~gerhard@chello080108255018.3.14.vie.surfer.at) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
[1:16] <[SLB]> one way is tar -czf backup.tgz /partition
[1:17] <[SLB]> for boot you can even just copy the files normally
[1:17] <[SLB]> it's fat, no need to preserve the permissions
[1:17] <home> so fsck -fC fixed the second partition
[1:18] <home> [SLB]: okay :D got it
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[1:19] * PiBot sets mode +v Mr_P
[1:19] <[SLB]> good, also check in lost&found there can be pieces of files restored from here and there, if you can understand what they belong to, it's easy to fix what could have gone corrupted
[1:19] <[SLB]> nice :)
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[1:26] <TAFB> what's a .deb file and what do I do with it?
[1:27] <buZz> dpkg -i bla.deb
[1:27] <[SLB]> it's an install package
[1:27] <buZz> on a debian flavour distro :P
[1:27] <[SLB]> ^
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[1:27] <buZz> like raspbian, or ubuntu
[1:27] <TAFB> buZz: will give it a go :)
[1:28] <TAFB> buzz: I'm adding a button to my status page "test current SD card performance" ;)
[1:28] * Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky
[1:28] <TAFB> Leeky: how come you never talk to us :(
[1:29] <buZz> TAFB: hope google doesnt click it!
[1:29] <TAFB> buZz: Ouch, never thought of that :(
[1:29] <TAFB> buZz: my sd card may not last long if lots of clicks...
[1:29] <buZz> look for robots.txt
[1:29] <TAFB> buzz: Maybe I'll limit it to read tests ;)
[1:29] <buZz> also, protip, copy webdir to tmpfs ;)
[1:29] <TAFB> buZz: in case of hack?
[1:29] <buZz> unless its HUGE
[1:30] <buZz> well, in case of 7389742937297423 hits
[1:30] <TAFB> ahhh
[1:30] <buZz> tmpfs is a ramdrive
[1:30] <TAFB> buZz: my full website folder will be about 17gb :( will get LOTS of hits once I forward dns/port 80 :(
[1:31] <[SLB]> my system is on usb drive, got no fs corruption ever since
[1:31] <TAFB> [SLB]: nice. You running wheezy?
[1:31] <[SLB]> raspbian, which is wheezy i believe?
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[1:32] <TAFB> [SLB]: That's correct. If possible could i have you run a performance test on your USB drive?
[1:32] <TAFB> [SLB]: I'm working on the build/commands right now :)
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[1:32] <[SLB]> sure
[1:32] <[SLB]> nice eheh
[1:33] <TAFB> [SLB]: sweet. I gotta get it working on my Pi first, then I'll link it up :)
[1:33] * buZz coughs http://www.commandlinefu.com/
[1:33] <TAFB> those = crappy test. I need random 4k read/write test ;)
[1:33] <CelticTurnip> bonnie++ :P
[1:33] <TAFB> I'm going to use iozone
[1:33] <[SLB]> from the pi itself? i've done it from windows already
[1:33] <TAFB> [SLB]: yes, from the Pi
[1:34] <[SLB]> ah ok
[1:34] <TAFB> my windows test, we'll see what the Pi does: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/patriot%2032gb%20class%2010%20SD%20card%20test.png
[1:36] <[SLB]> this is mine https://docs.google.com/open?id=0BwnBJU5D3g9yX2VPbkJBRjlRT00
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[1:38] <TAFB> not bad, 4k write speed a little slow, but read speed is smokin!
[1:38] * Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk
[1:38] <TAFB> what card?
[1:38] <[SLB]> eheh
[1:38] <[SLB]> usb pendrive 4gb verbatim
[1:38] <TAFB> ahhh damn USB :) right, ok :)
[1:38] <[SLB]> eheh
[1:39] <[SLB]> it's where i have the raspi system running
[1:40] <ackthet> 30 MB/s is smokin?
[1:40] <TAFB> 4.7mb/s is smokin
[1:40] <ackthet> lol
[1:40] <TAFB> ackthet: 4k random read we're talkin
[1:41] <dr_willis> I got some silly usb hds.. where 1mb/s is smoking
[1:41] <ackthet> my network outperforms your disk IO
[1:41] <dr_willis> Not sure what is up with thembeing so slow. Is there such a thing as a USb1 cable? vs a USb2 ? could be i got an old usb cable slowing me down?
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[1:42] <[SLB]> the old verbatim one is the fastest i have for random access, even faster than sandisk usb
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[1:43] <[SLB]> *usb 2.0
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[1:43] <TAFB> [SLB]: nice. The Pi runs off 4k read/write, so those terms determine Pi performance :)
[1:43] <[SLB]> eheh yea
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[1:45] <dr_willis> so for a usb to usb hard drive transfer - what would be the speeds One should expect? assuming the HD is not the bottle neck
[1:45] <TAFB> all of my drives are eSata, so not familiar with usb to usb speeds, sorry
[1:46] <dr_willis> I have several esata - but it seems that just never really took off.
[1:46] <TAFB> esata to esata I do 185mb/sec
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[1:48] <dr_willis> i have a lot of external USb hds for media/video storage for the wifes shows mainly. so once i get the shows on the usb, her media player just plays them. so speeds are not that big an issue. :) but backing up 100gb of videos to a hd for her is killing me on this one pc. its only getting 1.5mb/s Usb HD to USB Hd.
[1:48] <TAFB> dr_willis: nasty :)
[1:49] <dr_willis> Not sure why its so slow. Tracking down some cables to change out.
[1:49] <dr_willis> yea mc is showing 1.5mb/s right now
[1:50] <dr_willis> i got a usb3 pcie card for that pc.. then reaized i need the half-height cards because its a slim type case. ;)
[1:51] <TAFB> usb3 is very nice, my drives are usb3 and sata3, so I just used sata.
[1:52] <dr_willis> been slowly upgradeing my systems over the last few years. ;) then we had the big HD crunch last year.. so now getting better HDs again.
[1:52] <TAFB> dr_willis: I've got two 3TB of these drives, fastest I've ever used: http://likestuff.globat.com/2012-05-07-3TBseagateGoFlexHomeExternalHardDrive/2012-05-07-3TBseagateGoFlexHomeExternalHardDrive_L.jpg
[1:52] <dr_willis> My main issue is that some of the older Media-player box's i have Cant work with 3TB usb HDs. Silly BoxeeBox and older devices.
[1:53] <TAFB> They are Seagate Barracuda XT inside :)
[1:53] <lee> Misfits gets weirder every episode
[1:53] <dr_willis> I got a stack of hds. ;) you name the brand - i got them. looking for what ones are dead.. may use the case as a RPi case. wonder if i could squeeze in a small hd and the pi both.
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[1:54] <TAFB> dr_willis: hitachi 2tb (esata 2) in the middle, the two 3tb sata3 on each side, cooled by silent 120mm fan: http://likestuff.globat.com/2012-05-07-3TBseagateGoFlexHomeExternalHardDrive/2012-05-07-3TBseagateGoFlexHomeExternalHardDriveInstalledCasePhoto_L.jpg
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[1:55] <home> okay
[1:55] <home> so getting my rpi into AP mode is REALLY hard
[1:57] <home> I ffed it up again
[1:57] <home> lol
[1:57] <home> sorry for language :/
[2:00] <TAFB> [SLB]: IT WORKS! You ready for performance test?
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[2:03] <home> [SLB]: how do I back using tar again
[2:03] <home> I got an error : tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
[2:05] <home> why does my sd card keep getting corrupted
[2:05] <home> lool
[2:06] <TAFB> wow. that's it, I'm getting SSD for my Pi and putting OS on it :(
[2:07] <home> TAFB: why?
[2:07] <TAFB> home: Looks at performance tests of SD cards. One guy had a SSD on USB on his Pi, just MURDERS the SD cards, like 1000x faster
[2:08] <home> I have an SSD.. on a laptp but :/
[2:08] <Ben64> is there4 a newer omxplayer for debian
[2:08] <home> what about usb drives
[2:08] <home> can you boot off from an USB?
[2:08] <TAFB> home: always have to boot from SD, but OS can be on USB
[2:08] <home> interesting
[2:08] <TAFB> home: I'm still digging through performance tests, none on USB hard drive so far.
[2:08] <TAFB> if [SLB] comes back he can test his, usb pen drive (not hard drive)
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[2:21] <home> urgh
[2:22] <home> anyone got AP mode wifi working for their RPI
[2:22] <home> I got my RPI working as a client, but urgh
[2:22] <TAFB> i don't believe it can be wifi client and ap at the same time, only ethernet for internet and wifi for ap?
[2:23] <home> just wifi for AP
[2:23] <home> so that I can go on it
[2:24] <TAFB> AP means you are sharing internet from Pi to other wifi devices
[2:24] <home> yeah
[2:24] <home> but its not working
[2:24] <home> and it killed me ethernet also
[2:24] <home> so I cannot ssh into it..
[2:24] <home> 0_0
[2:24] <TAFB> so you have ethernet going into the pi?
[2:25] <home> yeah
[2:25] <home> it gets detected
[2:25] <home> bu no ssh :/
[2:25] <TAFB> i see
[2:25] <home> or ping
[2:25] <home> or any ip coming out XD
[2:25] <TAFB> u broke it good
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[2:29] <home> TAFB: i made a back up
[2:30] <home> and it failed
[2:30] <home> crap
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[2:35] <home> TAFB: I keep corrupting this thing, urgh
[2:35] <home> /dev/mmcblk0p2: ********** WARNING: Filesystem still has errors **********
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[2:36] <dr_willis> Hmm.. got a neat looking RpI case thats round and the cables sort of route underneeth it... but i cant get any cables to actually do that. ;) Its like a octopuss lifting itself off the table...
[2:36] <TAFB> i'm no expert, sorry home
[2:36] <TAFB> dr_willis: lol ;) pic?
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[2:37] <dr_willis> I dont even have a browser going (or a gui) handy for a pic. ;P about ready to put that case up on a shelf.. and just let the pi Dangle from a wiretie on the wall...
[2:37] <home> ....
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[2:38] <dr_willis> Other Pi Case i have.. has 2 almost identical halfs.. i could use one half for each pi ;) but theni got no top.. guess i could make a top..
[2:39] <dr_willis> actually the 2 half are identical. ;) too bad they dont hold the pi better.. i have to be real carfull when plugging in stuff.
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[2:40] <home> how to edit /etc/network/interfaces?
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[2:41] <TAFB> sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces
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[2:42] <home> i dunno
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[3:08] <home> reimaging
[3:08] <home> the thing failed badly :/
[3:08] <home> ...
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[3:37] <arij> raspberrys
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[3:43] <TAFB> arij: pie's :)
[3:45] <mrhobbz> apple piz
[3:49] <TAFB> hey hobbz, how's it goin :)
[3:49] <mrhobbz> pretty good pretty good, how about you
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[4:04] <TAFB> doin good thanks :)
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[4:04] <TAFB> My Pi is getting some secret upgrades tomorrow :) should be awesome!
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[4:05] <TAFB> Did you see my latest status page updates? Now with Locale, ip address (yours and mine) detection, top 10 memory hogs AND cpu hogs as well as complete config.txt and etc/networks :) http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/
[4:06] <home> TAFB: BLEH
[4:06] <home> stop being a cheetah
[4:06] <TAFB> cheetah? :)
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[4:07] <mrhobbz> lol....... configure i7 laptop with HP, they're offering FreeDOS as an os option
[4:07] <TAFB> lol, ONLY freedos, i.e. no windows?
[4:08] <mrhobbz> all of the typical windows options also
[4:08] <mrhobbz> just thought it was kind of funny
[4:08] <TAFB> i meant, can you get it with freedos and NO windows?
[4:08] <mrhobbz> yes
[4:08] <TAFB> sweet
[4:08] <mrhobbz> FreeDOS subtract $50
[4:08] <TAFB> pffft. lol. that's all they pay for Windows? bastards
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[4:09] <mrhobbz> building a laptop with the specs of my work laptop, curious as to what the retail price on it is
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[4:21] <D34TH> i hate windows
[4:21] <D34TH> picking out frames for them is so hard
[4:21] <D34TH> then you have to match the paint schemes
[4:21] <D34TH> oh wait
[4:21] <CelticTurnip> ^__^
[4:22] <SpeedEvil> you don't paint the windows n00b.
[4:22] <SpeedEvil> you paint the window frames.
[4:23] <CelticTurnip> maybe you don't, but I'm not letting my lady see outside
[4:23] <CelticTurnip> 8-O
[4:23] <CelticTurnip> :P
[4:23] <mrhobbz> mine are energy star
[4:23] <mrhobbz> i tried to hook power leads for my pi but it won't turn on
[4:23] <mrhobbz> can you guys halp me?
[4:23] <SpeedEvil> main screen not turn on?
[4:24] <D34TH> voltage tested?
[4:24] <mrhobbz> its not getting power from my energy star windows
[4:24] <mrhobbz> but i hooked the positive and negative up to it
[4:24] <D34TH> have you tried turning it off and on again
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[4:25] <mrhobbz> yeah
[4:25] <D34TH> hmm
[4:25] <D34TH> are they plugged in?
[4:25] <mrhobbz> i tried closing the window too to complete the circuit but no go
[4:25] <CelticTurnip> Somebody set up us the bomb.
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[4:27] <D34TH> mrhobbz, i recommend hammertime on the windows
[4:27] <CelticTurnip> and I recommend hammer pants IRL
[4:27] <mrhobbz> stop, hammertime?
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[4:59] <dr_willis> its so weird.. you dont actually have a power off switch. :) i just told the raspxbmc thing to power down.. screen is blank... guess its safe to unplug the power now. ;)
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[5:08] <pksato> how do made a power switch to rpi? :)
[5:09] <TAFB> pksato: depends on where you're powering it from? micro USB? tricky. GPIO pins? easy
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[5:12] <pksato> how to detect OS shutdown?
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[5:14] <TAFB> pksato: If I'm doing a halt, I look to lose pings from my other computer on the network, then I know she's down.
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[5:19] <dr_willis> hmm. is there some option/code to force the pi to not use hdmi audio out? I got a 2nd one hooked to a pc monitor via dvi->hdmi adaptor cable. and speakers plugged into the audio out port. but the raspxbmc seems to be not making any noise. I think its trying to use the hdmi output
[5:20] <pksato> yes, have.
[5:22] <pksato> sudo amixer cset numid=3 1
[5:23] <pksato> to sound out via rpi phone conector.
[5:23] <pksato> sudo amixer cset numid=3 2
[5:23] <pksato> to hdmi, and 0 to auto.
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[5:24] <pksato> I need to write theses tips on some place.
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[5:24] <TAFB> pksato: for sure! You can get a free wordpress page from megaproxy :)
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[5:25] <dr_willis> pksato: so how does that differ from the 'hdmi_drive=1' option i just saw mentined in the config.txt ?
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[5:26] <pksato> hdmi_drive set type of display.
[5:26] <pksato> 1 is a DVI out.
[5:26] <pksato> 2 to HDMI out.
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[5:27] <dr_willis> the docs mention it also affects sound. but that mey be im missreading what they are saying. I am using a DVI, so i will ALSO need to use the amixer command then?
[5:27] <pksato> DVI dont have sound over it.
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[5:27] <dr_willis> which is why i was thinking that would set it to phon connector by default then.
[5:28] <pksato> no.
[5:28] <pksato> if out is HDMI, sound also goes too.
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[5:32] <dr_willis> so i should set both. :) dvi and the amixer command.
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[6:15] <TAFB> Woot :) Did a massive performance test on my SD card with iozone (1gb test file), it spits out some nice charts too :) http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/Patriot_EP_32GB_Performance_in_RaspberryPi_large.png
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[6:26] <PredaGR> hello people, after the boot from the SD I want to continue booting from an external USB hard disk, I could use /dev/sda1 for example but that might change as devices plug in and out the USB ports and the system reboots, so I was looking to boot with GUID but cannot find if there is a parameter for this or syntax
[6:29] <ParkerR_> PredaGR, You can set in fstab for the hard drove to always mount in the same folder. BUT if this is the first thing the computer sees when its plugged in it will always be sda1
[6:29] <ParkerR_> *first thing the Pi sees
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[6:30] <ParkerR_> That won't change unless you also have another storage device plugged in
[6:30] <PredaGR> ParkerR_ that is the problem, might be adding more disks in the future, the device name will certainly be changing from time to time, and it is a headless pi
[6:30] <ParkerR_> Which even then it might not change. Just depends on what storage device the Pi sees first
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[6:32] <PredaGR> for now moved var and temp along with the homes on an external disk, but would like to move the rest of the system as well and use the SD just for /boot and use it with some more permanent and non changeable solution
[6:32] <ParkerR_> PredaGR, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/linux-finding-using-uuids-to-update-fstab/
[6:33] <ParkerR_> Like "UUID=41c22818-fbad-4da6-8196-c816df0b7aa8 /disk2p2 ext3 defaults,errors=remount-ro 0 1"
[6:33] <ParkerR_> Can be done just through ftsab
[6:33] <PredaGR> I know all this, the problem lies within the cmdline.txt and the root=
[6:34] <PredaGR> my fstab already using GUIDs all over the place
[6:35] <ParkerR_> Hope it gets /dev/sda1 :P{
[6:35] <ParkerR_> *:P
[6:35] <ParkerR_> I see the issue
[6:35] <PredaGR> the problem is instructing the kernel where to find the rest for the boot, root=/dev/sda1 will work for short time
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[6:36] <pksato> root=UUID=41c22818-fbad-4da6-8196-c816df0b7aa8
[6:36] <ParkerR_> Will that work?
[6:37] <ParkerR_> Seems so simple if it does
[6:37] <PredaGR> just as fstab?
[6:37] <PredaGR> hmms
[6:37] <pksato> yes
[6:37] <PredaGR> thanks pksato, going to try it
[6:37] <ParkerR_> But that doesnt point to the partition
[6:37] <ParkerR_> Just the disk
[6:37] <pksato> if kernel support UUID for root device.
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[6:38] <pksato> bedtime. cya.
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[6:38] <PredaGR> goodnight
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[7:07] <TAFB> alright, last status update for the night. Added real time rootfs performance data chart, rootfs storage media type (sd card, brand, model, etc.). I got some sneaky stuff comin for the Pi tomorrow, will post up new performance results :) http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/
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[7:17] <shiftplusone> 0.7 0 S 00:01:25 nano index.php
[7:17] <shiftplusone> You did not write all that in nano did you?
[7:18] <TAFB> shiftplusone: yep :(
[7:18] <shiftplusone> heh, ok
[7:18] <TAFB> still workin on it in nano, as you can tell ;)
[7:19] <TAFB> How do you like my sd card performance chart? It's clickable too :)
[7:19] <shiftplusone> Looks good, but I am a bit worried about you and your pi.
[7:19] <TAFB> lol
[7:19] <TAFB> why is that?
[7:19] <shiftplusone> This must take a special kind of OCD (in a good way)
[7:19] <TAFB> no doubt
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[7:20] <TAFB> good thing I'm freshly single and out of work ;)
[7:20] <shiftplusone> Ah, that explains it. I was productive for a while too when I was freshly single.
[7:20] <TAFB> lol
[7:21] <shiftplusone> Your ex would be the girl in your youtube profile pic? </stalker>
[7:22] <TAFB> naa, that was just some random pic I found :)
[7:22] <shiftplusone> Ah ok
[7:23] <shiftplusone> You make me feel bad that my pi is in the drawer =(
[7:23] <TAFB> sheesh, I dunno if I got a pic of her without her helmet on :)
[7:23] <TAFB> shiftplusone! You MUST find a use for it :(
[7:23] <TAFB> even if it's just for status page and uptime record ;)
[7:24] <shiftplusone> Think I'll ask my ex out and break up again to get some inspiration
[7:24] <TAFB> here she is: http://ecuflashking.com/r6/2011-09-17-JamieAndXtinasNewBikePics/large/P1050243.jpg
[7:24] <TAFB> lol
[7:25] <shiftplusone> nice bike
[7:25] <TAFB> that's hers :) she's done a lot of work on it: http://ecuflashking.com/r6/christina_1st_place.jpg
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[7:26] <shiftplusone> Nice, what's the first place for?
[7:27] <TAFB> motorcycle show, best customized woman owned bike. They gave you an interview about the modifications, etc. you had to have done them yourself. All the other chicks had no clue, while she was ryming off "power commander this, wide band o2 sensor this, headers..." etc. lol
[7:27] <shiftplusone> lol
[7:28] <shiftplusone> I just got a cruiser, so I am pretty clueless about proper mods myself. >.>
[7:28] <TAFB> if your cruiser is fuel injected, lots of stuff you can do to it too :)
[7:29] <shiftplusone> nuh, got a carby
[7:29] <TAFB> they make sweet sweet setups now. When you're on the throttle, maximum power, when you're cruising around, maximum fuel efficiency. it's a sweet sweet setup.
[7:29] <shiftplusone> And I came off it about half a year ago and haven't had much confidence to ride it properly anyway.
[7:29] <TAFB> ahhh carbs :) time to upgrade ;)
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[7:30] <TAFB> yeah, I had a bad motorcycle accident 1.5 years ago, still healing :( http://ecuflashking.com/r6/2011-09-08-Xrays/xray_femur_L_hip_7-17-2011_small.png
[7:30] <shiftplusone> I've been wanting an sv650, but don't have the money for that... not any time soon anyway.
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[7:30] <shiftplusone> ouch
[7:30] <TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/r6/2011-07-17-BikeAccidentPics/large/DSCN2594.JPG
[7:31] <shiftplusone> ouch again
[7:31] <mrhobbz> shiftplusone: have you looked at hyosung?
[7:31] <TAFB> they fixed me up pretty good though: http://ecuflashking.com/r6/2011-09-08-Xrays/Jamie%27s%20Leg%20Length%20Xray%20%28small%29.png
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[7:31] <mrhobbz> korean bike but all their bikes use the suzuki sv650 motor
[7:31] <TAFB> hobbz: lots of peeps right the hysung 250r here :)
[7:31] <shiftplusone> mrhobbz, I have, but I get really opinions on them.
[7:31] <TAFB> ride
[7:31] <shiftplusone> *really mixed
[7:32] <TAFB> yeah, here too. a few friends had the wiring harness short out and catch on fire :(
[7:32] <TAFB> but aparently they've fixed a lot of stuff since then
[7:32] <mrhobbz> before i bought my meanstreak i had one of their gt650r's
[7:32] <mrhobbz> but 30k miles on it with no problems
[7:32] <shiftplusone> Some people say their newer models are great and reliable, others say never to get one =/
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[7:33] <TAFB> hey hobbz, you check out my status page? Added SD card performance chart (clickable) and sd card model info :) http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/
[7:33] <mrhobbz> nice
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[7:33] <TAFB> i got some neat toys coming for the Pi tomorrow, hopefully will get those hard drive speeds up a lil
[7:33] <shiftplusone> aside from the lack of money, I figure since I can't ride my 250 cruiser to its maximum ability, I have no need to upgrade anyway.
[7:34] <mrhobbz> yeah
[7:34] <mrhobbz> only complaint i had with the hyosung is that it was too small
[7:34] <shiftplusone> mrhobbz, what year was it?
[7:35] <TAFB> shiftplusone: you ever think of doing track? I found it really hard to ride street after my accident (SUV hit me head on), so I started back on the track and got my confidence back in a hurry (had never been on a track before). There were tons of cruisers in the "intro to track" course I took too, put your own bike on the track :)
[7:35] <mrhobbz> 08'
[7:35] <mrhobbz> but im also 6'1" 225lbs
[7:35] <shiftplusone> TAFB, I am told they don't let cruisers on the track here. That and they don't let you on without a full set of leathers apparantly.
[7:35] <mrhobbz> test rode the meanstreak and ended up getting rid of the hyo
[7:36] <TAFB> shiftplusone: that sucks. As long as you got jeans, leather jacked and gloves you're good to go here, and TONS of cruisers come out on the intro days!! that sucks.
[7:36] <TAFB> here's me, my 1st track day (notice yellow x on back): http://ecuflashking.com/r1/2012-09-20-TMP_racer5_trackday/FirstTrackDay_Sept1stPics/Jamie9.jpg
[7:38] <shiftplusone> TAFB, there are some good roads not too far from my house. I used to go there and find that I'd be scraping my pegs on every turn for a week afterwards. Last time I went, my bike was pretty much 90 degrees to the ground the whole time, heh.
[7:38] <shiftplusone> TAFB, I am guessing you know of M13 and his tours, yeah?
[7:38] <mrhobbz> took me forever to get comfortable doing leans like that, the meanstreak will lean over about that far though ;)
[7:38] <TAFB> nope, never heard of him
[7:38] <shiftplusone> TAFB, bah!
[7:38] <mrhobbz> but the foot peg about put me on my ass trying
[7:38] <orkid> what does this stuff have to do with rpi?
[7:39] <TAFB> orkid: can't remember when we got off topic
[7:39] <orkid> no offence
[7:39] <TAFB> orkid: feel free to interrupt
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[7:39] <shiftplusone> offtopic is fine
[7:39] <mrhobbz> the internet, it's serious pi business
[7:39] <shiftplusone> unless it's drowning out pi talk
[7:39] <orkid> but the sake of those reading logs later on
[7:39] <TAFB> orkid, lol
[7:39] <mrhobbz> really?
[7:39] <TAFB> if people arn't here, too bad for what they missed :)
[7:40] <orkid> you can't be serious
[7:40] <mrhobbz> TAFB: nice graphs btw, you using GD for your render?
[7:40] <TAFB> orkid: did you at least check out my Pi status page? Now featuring SD card performance chart, clickable even! http://ecuflashking.com/r1/2012-09-20-TMP_racer5_trackday/FirstTrackDay_Sept1stPics/Jamie9.jpg
[7:40] <TAFB> whops
[7:40] <TAFB> http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/
[7:40] <shiftplusone> lol
[7:40] <TAFB> link fail
[7:40] <TAFB> rofl
[7:40] <mrhobbz> that is one fast performance chart
[7:41] <mrhobbz> how'd you get those blue bits to lean over that far
[7:41] <TAFB> mrhobbz: The health gauge is done by phpChart (live on page load) and the other chart is made by ms excel then exported in .png
[7:41] <mrhobbz> ah
[7:42] <TAFB> mrhobbz: I've been told it's cause of poor body position?
[7:42] <mrhobbz> if it works it works :P
[7:43] <TAFB> this is my 2nd track day, was getting off a bit more: http://ecuflashking.com/r1/2012-09-02-TMP_track_day_turn11and12.jpg
[7:45] <mrhobbz> looks like fun
[7:45] <TAFB> mrhobbz: The iozone perfomance test with a 1gb file takes like 40 mins to complete on my Pi, and probably just murders the SD card, so I figure I'd only need to run it once, then update the image if I change sd cards or whatever :)
[7:45] <TAFB> yep, tons of fun, super addicting :)
[7:45] <mrhobbz> wish i had a bike that handled enough to go run a few those
[7:45] <TAFB> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHPGnl7vpB0&hd=1
[7:46] <TAFB> mrhobbz: Here you can rent a bike for the day, $200 (on top of the $100 for the track day). Add an extra $100 for insurance, or you pay to fix if you drop it :)
[7:47] <shiftplusone> pricey
[7:47] <shiftplusone> (but reasonable, I guess)
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[7:48] <TAFB> yep, but where else do you get to go 300kph (186mph) for that price :)
[7:49] <home> any Canadians here :P
[7:49] <shiftplusone> I was going to say skydiving, but a quick search said it's slower.
[7:49] <TAFB> home: just me ;)
[7:49] <TAFB> shiftplusone: ROFL!
[7:49] <home> heh http://www.indiegogo.com/AgainstCopyrightBullying/x/679810
[7:49] <mrhobbz> yeah you can only fall so fast
[7:50] <mrhobbz> :P
[7:50] <home> TAFB: not sure if you heard the news...but over 2300 people are getting hit with copyright infringement suits
[7:50] <mrhobbz> but as long as you've got traction, more hp and tq to get you there you can keep going ;)
[7:50] <home> some people are trying to organize retaliation against these guys
[7:50] <shiftplusone> That doesn't looks too legit.
[7:50] <home> If we let these guys have their way, they might go for others :/
[7:51] <home> lol
[7:51] <TAFB> home: I downloaded 3.8TB last month, 100mbit download, was only able to upload 1.1TB going 24/7. Sharing is caring. If they want me, they can try and come get me. http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/gunsalltogethergood/large/PICT1136.JPG
[7:52] <home> I know
[7:52] <home> that's why we gotta stop these aholes
[7:52] <home> especially as fellow Canadians XD
[7:53] <home> 100mbit XD wish I had that :/
[7:53] <home> and a cap thats 3.8TB 0_0
[7:53] <TAFB> home: Yeah. Once the court realized the ONLY reason they want a search warrant to get your address/name is to try and squeeze money out of you, out of court! I say SCREW THAT, you want money? You better be willing to take it all the way!
[7:54] <TAFB> home: I got way over my cap every month, last months bill was $3,100 but they only make me pay $50 extra ;)
[7:54] <TAFB> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2376827100.png
[7:54] <home> why are you still with Rogers?
[7:54] <home> what are your caps?
[7:54] <TAFB> home: no idea what my cap is, cause I go way over it all the time. Honestly, I don't even know what it is, lol.
[7:55] <home> You know you are giving money to the wrong people, right
[7:55] <home> when there are better plans :P
[7:55] <TAFB> nobody's got 100mbit where I live
[7:55] <home> I noticed that
[7:55] <TAFB> especially anyone that doesn't block port 25 incoming (I need that for all my mail servers)
[7:55] <home> but what are your caps?
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[7:56] <TAFB> home: who cares what my cap is when I can have unlimited for $50/mo extra? lol
[7:56] <home> so its just $50 per month, for unlimited?
[7:56] <home> 0_0
[7:56] <TAFB> $50/mo EXTRA
[7:56] <home> yeah
[7:56] <TAFB> I think total comes to $140/mo for internet.
[7:56] <home> so around 110 dollahs
[7:56] <home> oh god
[7:57] <home> $140 for 100mbit
[7:57] <TAFB> 100mbit package is $90/mo
[7:57] <home> I think you are getting ripped off :P
[7:57] <shiftplusone> Good think you don't live in Australia. Bandwidth here is worth its weight in gold.... or an analogy that actually make sense.
[7:57] <mrhobbz> is that $90 usd?
[7:57] <home> CAD I believe
[7:57] <TAFB> $90CAD, same thing
[7:57] <mrhobbz> shit, i pay $100/mo usd for 50/5 here
[7:58] <TAFB> I'd pay huge for 5mbit upload :(
[7:58] <mrhobbz> no caps either
[7:58] <TAFB> I want to move to Wilson, NC. 100mbit up and down, no caps, $150/mo! http://www.greenlightnc.com/about/internet/
[7:58] <home> your upload speeds suck balls
[7:58] <home> dude
[7:58] <shiftplusone> Can we avoid swearing in here?
[7:58] <TAFB> who, my upload speeds?
[7:58] <home> oh god
[7:58] <home> sorry,
[7:59] <home> I have been constantly told that :/
[7:59] <home> bad habit...
[7:59] <home> I am a bad person :(
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[7:59] <shiftplusone> lol, going a bit overboard there, it happens. Just try to be concious of it.
[7:59] <mrhobbz> noo tafb
[7:59] <mrhobbz> oklahoma city mo
[7:59] <TAFB> home: I have TekSavvy for my uploads, 8mbps, but it's so friggen flakey I couldn't justify paying them anymore: http://www.speedtest.net/result/1747705636.png
[7:59] <mrhobbz> gigabit
[7:59] <mrhobbz> $70/mo
[7:59] <home> TAFB: http://www.speedtest.net/ it sucks still
[8:00] <home> TAFB: TekSavvy over here, and been with them over for a year and a half
[8:00] <home> their connection is solid here in the GTA
[8:00] <home> TAFB: once speed matching comes into play, it should get a bit better...
[8:00] <TAFB> home: Yeah, I've heard. I'm in a super old area, phone lines are full of water and rats have chewed them, so my internet was always up and down.
[8:00] <home> it's really your area I guess
[8:01] <home> I always get full speeds, and have a great connection tbh..
[8:01] <home> many people bitch about them, but I am all good
[8:01] <mrhobbz> im just waiting for this https://fiber.google.com/about/
[8:01] <home> the real problem is the bureaucracy in Canada :/
[8:01] <TAFB> my modem rebooted itself like 20 times a day (sync lost), plus I had to pay 3rd party company to relay my mail (teksavvy blocks incoming port 25), so that was annoying too
[8:01] <home> mrhobbz: keep dreaming :D
[8:01] <home> TAFB: wow, that really sucks
[8:01] <mrhobbz> already rolled out in mo
[8:02] <home> TAFB: but you should really check what they block..
[8:02] <home> before buying into a service :P
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[8:02] <TAFB> home: I asked the lady on the phone, "is anything blocked, I can run servers, ftp, web, e-mail, the works!" ... "Yep, we dun block nothin! no caps, no nothin"...
[8:03] <TAFB> totally sucked when it got installed and none of my servers were getting mail, my customers were pissed.
[8:03] <home> Wow
[8:03] <home> Customer Service really sucks
[8:03] <home> but, now you know.. :/
[8:03] <TAFB> so I had to keep rogers for an extra month while I got everyone move over to mail relay, which was slow, unreliable and their spam filter deleted too much legit mail (and you couldn't turn it off).
[8:04] <TAFB> my customers like my mail because they get their mail, instantly. send or receive :)
[8:05] <Jck_true> My ISP state that they offer static ip address for an extra monthly fee (~2USD) - But when you call them you get the answer "That is only for companies, not private)
[8:05] <home> Jck_true: :/
[8:05] <TAFB> Jck_true: Same with my ISP, Rogers. Static IP is only for business.
[8:05] <TAFB> my 100mbit package on business account? $289/mo :(
[8:06] <Jck_true> But I decided to take the chance! I've had the same IP address since 2008
[8:06] <Jck_true> Living life on the edge
[8:07] <TAFB> Jck_true: I was able to put my dynamic IP address (toysareforboys.no-ip.info) right into my actual DNS records (even though everyone says it won't work), so all of my MX records, everything, always goes to my server, even on a dynamic ip :) works sweet.
[8:07] <john_f> does omxplayer have a config?
[8:07] <Jck_true> 30/30mbit for 61USD a month
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[8:08] <TAFB> and I mean the mx for my real domains, tafb.xxx, toysareforboys.com, ecuflashking.com, etc ;)
[8:08] <TAFB> ohhhhhh, 30mbit upload, nice ;)
[8:08] <john_f> or another player with gpu support.
[8:08] <mrhobbz> whats worse is a colocation is cheaper than residential bandwidth here
[8:08] <mrhobbz> full 100mbit port for 75/mo
[8:08] <TAFB> I have 100mbps download, 2mbps upload :(
[8:09] <Jck_true> john_f: At the moment it's just omxplayer
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[8:10] <home> Same here :D my dynamic ip hasnt changed for the month :P
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[8:11] <home> BOO YEAH
[8:11] <home> RaspBerry Pi AP mode unlocked :D
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[8:12] <TAFB> home: took you long enuff!
[8:12] <home> yeah
[8:12] <home> had like
[8:12] <Jck_true> How do people in general handle GPIO buttons... Do they simulate keypress to the linux kernel or?
[8:12] <home> 2 corruptions
[8:12] <home> made a backup this time :D
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[8:13] <home> got about 197M of ram to play with
[8:13] <home> which python will take up..
[8:13] <TAFB> Jck_true: I'm going to start messing with the GPIO, so people that go to my status page and click the GPIO pins on and off and it'll light up LED's they can see on my PiCam
[8:13] <home> same :D
[8:13] <home> I need to use the GPIO to send out data to this board
[8:14] <home> going to do some vision processing :D
[8:14] * john_f wants config
[8:14] <home> john_f: he posted it like XD
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[8:15] <john_f> hmm?
[8:15] <Jck_true> I bought a "human touch sensor" and wired it up to my board along with one of thoose "USB power saving strips"
[8:15] <Jck_true> Then I made the sensor touch the metal frame on my desk
[8:15] <Jck_true> So now I can touch the metal frame to turn power on and off :)
[8:17] <home> sounds...weird but coool
[8:17] <home> TAFB: good night :D, thx for your help :P
[8:17] <TAFB> np. sleep good and sweet dreams
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[8:18] <Jck_true> home: Just need to write some proper software now :) thinking a safety timer that automatically turns off after 1hour or something :)
[8:18] <john_f> I know that raspberry-gpio-python exists.
[8:19] <rymate1234> I'm thinkin' of getting a 512MB rpi
[8:19] <john_f> but that is as far as I have gotten
[8:19] <Jck_true> john_f: Yeah - I'm gonna write it in C for practice - Was mostly curious how people handled "button" events in linux :/
[8:20] <john_f> depends what is generating them
[8:20] <Jck_true> Just a digital in signal
[8:21] <home> omg
[8:21] <home> I was gonna sleep
[8:21] <home> but 2 AP's from the RPI showed up
[8:21] <john_f> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Acpid https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_Keyboard_Keys
[8:21] <home> Jck_true: good luck :D
[8:21] <home> just waiting o nthis thing
[8:21] <home> then sleepy sleppy time
[8:21] <TAFB> rymate1234: you should get a pi, they are so much fun :)
[8:21] <john_f> Jck_true: i think you have to generate a signal
[8:22] <TAFB> rymate1234: Did you see my Pi status page? All kinds of fun info. And it runs right from my Pi! :) http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000/
[8:22] <rymate1234> TAFB, I have one. but I want more ram!
[8:22] <john_f> or a keypress event
[8:23] <rymate1234> TAFB, nice status page :P
[8:23] <TAFB> rymate1234: OH YEAH! lol. I fergot, sorry. Thought you were new :)
[8:23] <TAFB> rymate1234: Thanks! I'm adding some new gear to my Pi tomorrow (PiCam), remote control of LED lights right from that status page, etc. Should be spiffy.
[8:24] <rymate1234> woot
[8:24] <rymate1234> I was hosting a minecraft server on mine
[8:24] <rymate1234> keeps crashing though
[8:24] <TAFB> rymate1234: that sucks. You got good power and not overclockin?
[8:24] <rymate1234> well
[8:24] <rymate1234> the minecraft server keeps crashing
[8:25] <rymate1234> the pi stays up
[8:25] <TAFB> rymate1234: ahhh, weird.
[8:25] <Jck_true> Minecraft barely runs on my 2.2ghz dual core...
[8:25] <rymate1234> I tried running the vanilla minecraft client once
[8:26] <rymate1234> I got one frame a minute on the title screen
[8:26] <Jck_true> you kids and your minecraft :| - Wait for the portable pi build :)
[8:26] <rymate1234> I am :P
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[8:28] <rymate1234> I want to setup a GPIO screen for the pi that gives status on the Pi
[8:28] <Grievre> So all of the Pi's io pins are 3v3 right?
[8:28] <Jck_true> Grievre: Correct
[8:28] <Grievre> can they handle 5V on the input side or do I need to step down?
[8:28] <rymate1234> so CPU usage, ram usage, and status of the mc server
[8:29] <Jck_true> Grievre: You need to step down
[8:29] <Grievre> hm
[8:29] * rymate1234 goes
[8:29] <Jck_true> Grievre: adafruit and others sell converter boards :)
[8:30] <Jck_true> Grievre: http://www.adafruit.com/products/757
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[9:23] <CelticTurnip> hey all
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[9:25] <U1D0> cheers
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[9:35] <home> fuck
[9:35] <home> I was suppose to sleep an hour ago
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[10:27] <wsmsg> any great guides for emulators out? Like a walkthrough of how to install amiga, nes, snes, etc ?
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[10:33] <Jck_true> wsmsg: I don't do much with that - But you should look at RetroArch
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[10:39] <wsmsg> Jck_true: thanks for the tip :)
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[10:40] <Jck_true> wsmsg: There's plenty of forum posts on the topic :)
[10:41] <wsmsg> :)
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[10:54] <fob1a> Hello all, I am very interested in getting a RaspberryPi what are somet cool things i can do with it?
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[10:55] <asaru> you could start development of skynet
[10:55] <asaru> most just use theirs to run xbmc though
[10:55] <asaru> i made mine into a playstation
[10:55] <asaru> well one of mine
[10:56] <fob1a> emulator
[10:56] <asaru> well yeah
[10:56] <asaru> that one basically just lets me play syphon filter all day
[10:56] <asaru> then i dont get anything done
[10:56] <fob1a> im gonna get one i think. is it worth buying a package with all the cables and a box if i have absolutely nothin for it
[10:56] <asaru> maybe
[10:57] <fob1a> or should i just get the board and go from there
[10:57] <asaru> depends, can you get the cables and box and whatnot cheaper elsewhere
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[10:57] <fob1a> majoras mask n64 emulator all day
[10:57] <fob1a> okay ill price it all up
[10:57] <asaru> i have not seen a good n64 emulator yet
[10:57] <fob1a> project 64
[10:57] <viric> no?
[10:57] <asaru> but, i do have the snes gpio hack working with n64 controllers
[10:57] <fob1a> works great
[10:57] <asaru> its been a while since i checked
[10:57] <viric> n64 should be emulated much better than nes or snes
[10:57] <asaru> i guess
[10:58] <asaru> snes works fine on mine
[10:58] <asaru> as does psx
[10:58] <viric> asaru: on your pi?
[10:58] <asaru> yeah
[10:58] <viric> what emulators specifically?
[10:58] <fob1a> i even set up my xbox controller to my project 64 emulatopr
[10:58] <asaru> pocketsnes-libretro
[10:58] <asaru> i have hacked it up a bit i spose
[10:58] <asaru> dunno what changes they've made in the github since i installed it months ago
[10:58] <asaru> didnt run so good at first
[10:58] <viric> I wonder if that runs fine on gp2x :)
[10:58] <fob1a> did you follow a guide?
[10:59] <asaru> at first
[10:59] <viric> does that use the gpu?
[10:59] <asaru> i used retropie at first, but after minimal amounts of success i started doing everything from source
[10:59] <asaru> and i've gotten snes to work way better since then
[10:59] <asaru> psx worked fine out of the box
[10:59] <asaru> havent really tried any other emus
[10:59] <fob1a> project64 is pretty good
[10:59] <viric> and what psx emulator?
[11:00] <asaru> pscx
[11:00] <asaru> er pcsx
[11:00] <asaru> libretro port again
[11:00] <asaru> using retroarch for everything
[11:00] <asaru> the pcsx included in retropie setup worked out of the box
[11:00] <asaru> snes i had some issues
[11:01] <asaru> like dkc would drop out the second controller in 2 player coop games
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[11:01] <asaru> but i've fixed most of that now
[11:01] <asaru> and i'm using real snes controllers over gpio
[11:01] <asaru> same with psx
[11:02] <asaru> the analog sticks on the psx controllers are a little buggy still
[11:02] <asaru> but yeah i might have to look into n64 emulation
[11:02] <asaru> if you say theyve got it working on pi now, last i checked tehre was nothing ported for arm yet
[11:02] <asaru> but as i said, that was months ago
[11:04] <asaru> and the gamecon-gpio driver works pretty well, supports snes/nes/n64/psx and possibly more
[11:04] <asaru> over gpio
[11:04] <asaru> i made a little breakout board for mine, wires to gpio and has plugins for snes/psx
[11:04] <asaru> 2 each
[11:04] <asaru> me and my half-assed soldering skills lol
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[11:06] <fob1a> thinks its possible to set up a twisted metal 2 server?
[11:06] <asaru> lol
[11:06] <asaru> actually twisted metal 2 kinda ran crappy on my pi
[11:06] <fob1a> would be iincredibly fun
[11:06] <asaru> i could see that
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[11:06] <asaru> i should rephrase that
[11:06] <asaru> it didnt run crappy, it ran way too fast
[11:06] <asaru> couldnt really get it to slow down enough to make it playable
[11:07] <fob1a> hmmmm
[11:07] <asaru> framerate limiter wasnt enough
[11:07] <asaru> thought about fixing that but syphon filter ran fine, and thats all i really cared about at the time lol
[11:07] <fob1a> could probably mess with it in the code
[11:07] <asaru> yeah
[11:07] <asaru> that and metal gear solid
[11:07] <asaru> ran well
[11:07] <fob1a> sweet jesus that sounds fun
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[11:08] <asaru> one of the biggest problems i had was getting retroarch to load my custom psx bios
[11:08] <asaru> turned out to be a huge pain in the butt
[11:08] <asaru> but i eventually got it
[11:08] <asaru> the fake bios that comes with pcsx wasnt letting me load most games
[11:09] <fob1a> ij wonder why that is
[11:09] <asaru> i am googling around and im still not seeing a n64 emulator working on pi
[11:10] <fob1a> do you knwo what twisted metal 2 was written in
[11:10] <asaru> i have no idea
[11:10] <buZz> probably in C
[11:10] <asaru> im seeing some attempted ports of mupen64plus
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[11:11] <fob1a> thats what im seeing aswell
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[11:25] <asaru> yeah looks like mupen64pro was the only documented attempt i can find, and it appears dead
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[11:52] <frikinz> Did a small pi status for fun. It's here: http://teebee.n0n3m.com:666/?refresh=1000 . Tutorial is http://bit.ly/WixC99
[11:54] <wsmsg> First link does not work
[11:56] <frikinz> Yes, not sure what happened, I restarted it. It should work
[11:56] * Milos_ is now known as Milos
[11:58] <frikinz> Hope you enjoy my design skills and choice of colours :)
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[12:02] <gordonDrogon> What Ho!
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[12:02] <gordonDrogon> and wow.. 4TB drives are available now. Missed the announcements on those...
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[12:08] <Hoerie> <+gordonDrogon> and wow.. 4TB drives are available now. Missed the announcements on those... <-- guess that might start pushing down prices on 3TB drives
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[12:10] <symhedonia> ello guys, anyone has experience with radios wireless servers ?
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[12:17] <lxSnow> radios?
[12:17] <symhedonia> radius
[12:17] <symhedonia> i often misspell it
[12:17] <symhedonia> apologies
[12:18] <lxSnow> afraid not
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[12:31] <gordonDrogon> Hoerie, I thought so, but my favourite online place appears out of stock on the 3TB devices )-:
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[12:33] <chris_99> what sites that gordonDrogon
[12:33] <gordonDrogon> I use aria.co.uk
[12:33] <buZz> armysurplus.in
[12:33] <buZz> oh
[12:33] <buZz> :)
[12:34] <buZz> itsnotevenradioactive.ru
[12:34] <gordonDrogon> ho ho ...
[12:34] <buZz> feliz navidad!
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[12:34] <chris_99> ebuyer has always worked for me
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[12:46] <jd823592> Hi, i am trying to run mplayer on rpi, when i do not specify -ao i get no sound into headset nor into hdmi, so what should i specify as the -ao ? i dont know which alsa:device to specify or how to setup alsa correctly
[12:47] <jd823592> i have hdmi_group=2 hdmi_drive=2 hdmi_mode=28
[12:50] <dr_willis> hmm. someone mentioned an amixer cimmand to set the default audio out
[12:50] <jd823592> sudo amixer cset numid=3 <n>
[12:52] <jd823592> should i get an error when i try to run alsamixer as common user?: 'cannot open mixer: No such file or directory'
[12:52] <jd823592> ?
[12:53] <dr_willis> i recall using sudo
[12:53] <jd823592> well yeah i did that but that does not sound reasonable to me but whatever :
[12:53] <jd823592> :)
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[12:54] <jd823592> still mplayer: DVB card number must be between 1and4 AO: [null] 48000Hz 1ch s16le (2bytes per sample) .. no sound heard
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[13:05] <jd823592> ok, so alsa sound works, its probably just question of telling mplayer which alsa device it is
[13:06] <jd823592> how can i find out what device number it is?
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[13:08] <dr_willis> i think amixer or alsa* commands can list them.
[13:08] <viric> aplay -L
[13:08] <dr_willis> numid=3 is what ive seen in other commands
[13:09] <jd823592> it was my fault, i probably forgot to compile mplayer with alsa support :/ sorry for the trouble :)
[13:11] <dr_willis> heh.. i tend to use vlc
[13:12] <jd823592> dr_willis: i used to use it, i dont use it anymore
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[13:16] <martk100> I can not get riscos to work. I have tried 2 sd cards. I get one long flash on cpu led then no more activity.What am I doing wrong?
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[13:19] <neilr> martk100 - what card are you using? I'm using RISC OS no problems, on a 4GB Sandisk class 4 card.
[13:20] <martk100> neilr: I have tried an 8GB class 4 card and a 16GB class 4 card.
[13:21] <neilr> ah, sadly I don't have anything bigger than 4GB to test with. If you read the RISC OS section on the R-Pi forum there's a few people there who've had problems with SD cards. No solutions yet though.
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[13:22] <martk100> neilr: OK thanks
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[13:25] <tanuva> my Pi will frequently travel between two homes, is it possible have openelec "know" two wlans an the same time? (while having just one available at a time)
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[13:33] <dr_willis> riscos worked for me on a 16gb flash. a sony brand
[13:34] <dr_willis> tanuva: may be easier to tweak raspbmc.
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[13:35] <tanuva> probably
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[13:38] <dr_willis> you could setup rc.local in raspbmc to connect or change setting files
[13:38] <tanuva> can't I just configure multiple wlans in wpa-supplicant.conf on raspbmc?
[13:38] <tanuva> its debian after all
[13:39] <dr_willis> never tried. :-)
[13:39] <tanuva> I'll take a look when I'm back in a few hours
[13:39] <dr_willis> i rarely mess with wifi that deeply.
[13:40] <xzr> would think it should work
[13:40] <xzr> got no system to test on atm
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[13:43] <lxSnow> Hey guys
[13:44] <dr_willis> howdy
[13:45] <frikinz> tanuva: yes. you need a line wpa-roam in /etc/network/interfaces and then you can add multiple network stanzas in /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[13:45] <chris_99> http://store.raspberrypi.com/ forbidden for you guys?
[13:45] <frikinz> chris_99: yes
[13:45] <chris_99> aha ta
[13:45] <tanuva> frikinz: ah, thanks :)
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[13:47] <lxSnow> been trying to install my wireless adaptor but it won't play along
[13:47] <lxSnow> got a d-link dwa 121
[13:48] <lxSnow> "Failed to initialize driver 'nl80211'"
[13:48] <lxSnow> any ideas?
[13:48] <dr_willis> whats the chipset?
[13:48] <lxSnow> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=24964
[13:49] <lxSnow> it shows up in lsusb though
[13:49] <lxSnow> but I can't run scan nor hostapd
[13:49] <lxSnow> and sec, I'll check
[13:50] <lxSnow> Chip: Realtek RTL8188CUS
[13:50] <lxSnow> I've tried to set "hostapd" as driver in the config
[13:50] <lxSnow> but still no dice
[13:50] <lxSnow> same driver error
[13:51] <lxSnow> and I've ran hexxehs updater to get the latest kernel
[13:51] <frikinz> hostapd is for using your adapter as an AP, if the driver supports it.
[13:52] <lxSnow> yup
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[13:54] <lxSnow> as far as I know the dwa 121 should support it frikinz
[13:54] <lxSnow> it's even titled "D-Link DWA-121 Micro USB Wireless Access Point Adapter"
[13:55] <lxSnow> so basically I went on dlinks website and downloaded the linux driver
[13:56] <lxSnow> but I can't compile it as there's no makefile block for arm processors
[13:56] <frikinz> the compatibility is given here: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers . Not sure if it really supports it
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[13:57] <lxSnow> yeah I see
[13:58] <lxSnow> perhaps I should just cave in and buy another for 5 usd
[13:58] <lxSnow> seems like it's not worth the effort fixing
[13:58] <lxSnow> even if it should be possible to fix the makefile compiler script
[13:59] <lxSnow> for arm that is
[13:59] <frikinz> hostapd is in raspbian repository version 1.0-3
[13:59] <lxSnow> yeah I've installed it and set it up
[13:59] <lxSnow> but when I try to run it on wlan0 I get the missing driver error
[14:00] <dr_willis> hmm. cant get znc working on raspien
[14:00] <frikinz> lxSnow: and did you managed to get it at least to connect to an AP?
[14:00] <frikinz> 8188CUS should work out of the box
[14:00] <Hoerie> <+dr_willis> hmm. cant get znc working on raspien <-- works on raspbmc
[14:01] <lxSnow> nah I get the same driver error when I run iwlist scan
[14:01] <Hoerie> so should work on raspbian
[14:02] <dr_willis> get a unable to bind port..faimly not permited ...error
[14:02] <frikinz> lxSnow: doesn't seem to be working so much out of the box when looking at user feedback. Not so sure.
[14:03] <dr_willis> i think its a error in support lib.
[14:03] <Hoerie> I think I needed to do set bindhost 0.0.0.0 or something like that
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[14:03] <Jck_true> Hoerie: I just took it straight from the repository worked for me
[14:03] <dr_willis> iin the znc conf?
[14:03] <frikinz> lxSnow: did you modprobe 8192cu?
[14:04] <Hoerie> I used this as a starting point: http://geekblog.tv/1881
[14:04] <Hoerie> I did that through an irc client
[14:04] <lxSnow> ah no
[14:04] <frikinz> lxSnow: https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/26
[14:04] <Hoerie> it kept refusing to connect to networks with some socket error
[14:05] <lxSnow> thanks frikinz, I'll look into it
[14:05] <lxSnow> seems a bit dated though, no?
[14:05] <Hoerie> this is what I needed to solve with bindhost: http://b.wardje.eu/2011/12/znc-failing-to-connect.html
[14:05] <Hoerie> so you can do it through the conf too
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[14:06] <frikinz> lxSnow: first try the included 8192cu before taking anoything out of official. Yes, outdated a bit. 4 months. Could be that the solution mentionned works. (taking a driver from somewhere). First try in normal, infrastructure mode.
[14:07] <lxSnow> gotcha
[14:07] <lxSnow> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=10407
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[14:08] <lxSnow> it's weird because the second last post stated that it's supposed to work otu of the box
[14:10] <lxSnow> ah nevermind, it's correctly listed in lsusb but still won't scan
[14:10] <lxSnow> same problem as me
[14:10] <lxSnow> I'll try modprobe later, thanks for the help frikinz
[14:11] <frikinz> lxSnow: np
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[14:25] <roasted> hello
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[14:30] <roasted> hello friends!
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[14:34] <dr_willis> moo
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[14:38] <roasted> you're a moo
[14:38] <roasted> I am somewhat upset, my friends. I had to retire my raspberry pi from home server related tasks. :(
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[14:41] <nid0> why?
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[14:42] <roasted> The shared bus between USB and NIC is killing me.
[14:42] <roasted> 1 MB/s transfer time over the LAN? c'mon.
[14:42] <nid0> what on earth have you got in the usb ports?
[14:42] <roasted> actually come to think of it I do think I hit 2 MB/s the one day, but even still, gigabit is pure <3
[14:42] <roasted> USB drives which backs up all of the systems on my LAN
[14:43] <Matt> I believe technically it's not just a shared bus
[14:43] <Matt> it's a USB attached NIC
[14:44] <roasted> I set up my old nettop, which granted me gigabit goodness as well as a little more power for various things if need be while still being pretty low on power.
[14:44] <nid0> you arent doing something dumb like raiding two usb drives plugged into the pi's ports are you? otherwise, 1-2MB/s is far lower than you should be getting
[14:44] <roasted> I may however set up the Pi on my HTPC as a little experiment.
[14:44] <roasted> nid0 no RAID. I'm just rsyncing from 1 USB drive to another USB drive.
[14:45] <Matt> the SoC has a USB port, which connects to an onboard USB hub, which in turn is connected to both USB sockets and the NIC
[14:45] <roasted> nid0 I tried everything I could think of, but in the end, the Pi just didn't perform in a way that I needed it to. Maybe I have too much data or want too much out of it.
[14:45] <roasted> Matt so the two USB ports are effectively sharing that bus together? So they're not each effectively capable of 480mbps?
[14:45] <nid0> roasted, no
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[14:46] <Matt> the SoC just has the one USB port - all USB devices (including the NIC) are sharing that
[14:46] <nid0> for speed purposes, the pi has one port, split among 2 usb ports and the nic
[14:46] <roasted> yeah, which is what was killing me.
[14:46] <nid0> even so though, you should be able to max out the nic reading from one usb drive over the network
[14:47] <Matt> well remember USB1.1 and USB2 are both only half-duplex
[14:47] <roasted> Don't get me wrong, I love that little thing, I just think I need to allocate it to better-suited tasks.
[14:47] <roasted> Matt what would that effectively mean?
[14:47] <nid0> reading from one usb drive and writing to another both plugged into the pi is what will kill its speeds
[14:48] <Matt> roasted: half duplex means data can only flow in one direction at a time
[14:48] <Matt> so host->peripheral or peripheral->host
[14:48] <roasted> Matt are you thereby suggesting if I put both of these USB drives on a regular desktop computer that I would get similar speeds due to the half duplex nature of USB 2?
[14:49] <Matt> means you have to stop sending data so that the device you're sending data to can send you an ack to tell you the data sent so far was received
[14:49] <Matt> roasted: well if you throw all your devices onto a single USB hub and plug that into a USB port in your PC, yeah, it's not going to be much better
[14:50] <Matt> but if you want to do that test, you'll need to go find a USB network adaptor
[14:50] <roasted> Matt but I suppose a regular desktop computer wouldn't be working from a "USB Hub"
[14:50] <roasted> Matt because with these same identical drives running the same identical rsync script, my speeds were ~13-15x faster than with the Pi.
[14:50] <Matt> depends on the setup, some of the ones with a large number of ports do
[14:51] <Matt> but typically, no, the ports on the back of a PC are all right back to the controller
[14:51] <roasted> k, that makes more sense then
[14:51] <roasted> either way, I look at it like a good thing... I have a Pi available for further tinkering.
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[14:52] <Matt> try running lsusb -t
[14:52] <Matt> that'll show you how things connect
[14:52] <roasted> Matt I'll evernote that for now... I don't have access to the Pi at the moment.
[14:52] <Matt> run it on your PC too :)
[14:53] <roasted> hmmm
[14:54] <roasted> still looks like some degree of vaguely familiar jibberish to me :P
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[15:00] <Jck_true> Is the Pi repairable if you overloaded the 3V3 rail?
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[15:00] <jd823592> with mplayer -vo x11 i get hiccups and info about slow cpu, what should i use for video output to get a flawless experience?
[15:00] <axion> jd823592: you need a hardware accelerated player
[15:00] <axion> not mplayer
[15:00] <jd823592> axion: such as?
[15:01] <buZz> omxplayer
[15:01] <axion> xbmc or omxplayer...only 2
[15:01] <buZz> xbmc just runs omxplayer
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[15:01] <buZz> so actually only one
[15:01] <axion> omxplayer was hacked out of xbmc
[15:01] <jd823592> ok, mplayer cannot use hw acceleration?
[15:01] <axion> and modified
[15:01] <axion> so 2
[15:01] <jd823592> :D
[15:01] <buZz> i think omxplayer is a seperate project
[15:02] <buZz> jd823592: no, it cant
[15:02] <buZz> not yet :)
[15:02] <buZz> maybe in a couple of years
[15:02] <jd823592> ok then
[15:02] <buZz> ah, omxplayer is older;
[15:02] <buZz> > It was developed as a testbed for the XBMC Raspberry PI implementationIt was developed as a testbed for the XBMC Raspberry PI implementation
[15:03] <axion> yes
[15:03] <axion> but not older
[15:03] <jd823592> can xbmc use ssh to play remote content?
[15:03] <buZz> you make a testbed before building the real bed :P
[15:03] <axion> keyword raspi
[15:03] <axion> xbmc existed long before
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[15:04] <buZz> yeah, omxplayer didnt exist before wanting to run xbmc on raspi
[15:04] <axion> right, so its newer than xbmc
[15:04] <buZz> hmhm
[15:04] <buZz> but xbmc couldnt play video before omxplayer existed
[15:04] <buZz> besides really slow
[15:05] <shiftplusone> sure it could, just not on raspberry pi
[15:05] <axion> right
[15:05] <buZz> :P
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[15:06] <axion> a fork of a project does not mean the parent's code is the same...its not even called omxplayer in xbmc. separate project. new codebase. hacked by same developer
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[15:07] <shiftplusone> axion, pretty sure it is. It's right there as omxplayer in the xbmc source code.
[15:07] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/tree/master/xbmc/cores/omxplayer
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[15:09] <axion> https://github.com/xbmc/xbmc/tree/cb5d9bf79704c0461852b0a3198cebc7776bbae9/xbmc/cores
[15:09] <axion> older than the pi
[15:09] <axion> non existant
[15:10] <shiftplusone> 'course
[15:10] <shiftplusone> I think everyone gets that omxplayer was written for the pi
[15:10] <axion> just because the parent renamed some code, does not mean it existed before the fork :)
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[15:14] <axion> ive been up all night...currently porting openmax c library to lisp...maybe sooner than 2 years :)
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[15:19] <Matt> axion: to lisp?
[15:19] <Matt> masochist :)
[15:20] <axion> did i stutter my lisp? :)
[15:20] <frikinz> I'm beginning to wonder about the quality of raspbian. libc probably. I get more and more segfault from my perl code. Or perl badly compiled?
[15:20] <axion> masochist?
[15:20] <frikinz> Anyone heard about such problems?
[15:20] <frikinz> I miss valgrind
[15:20] <axion> sorry, i dont get it. i am better at RAD in lisp than python...and i've used lisp 1/3 the years ive used python.
[15:21] <Matt> axion: just porting procedural->functional is enough of a mind bender for me :)
[15:21] <dr_willis> not dont much with rasbien so far. i do have issues with znc however. ;()
[15:21] <frikinz> dr_willis: what kind of issues?
[15:21] <frikinz> I'll reboot and see if it helps
[15:21] <axion> Matt: lisp is not functional, though it can be
[15:22] <Matt> ahh
[15:22] * Matt hasn't done much lisp
[15:22] <Matt> I was under the impression it was a functional language
[15:22] <axion> infact this project is written with objects (OOP)
[15:23] <Matt> probably because that's the only context I've run across it in
[15:23] <dr_willis> znc isent able to open the port (or any ports) some error like 'faimly not permited'
[15:23] <dr_willis> i think its some deeper bug with a support lib from what i googled
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[15:24] <axion> Common Lisp is a general-purpose, multi-paradigm programming language. It supports a combination of procedural, functional, and object-oriented programming paradigms.
[15:24] <axion> from the wiki gods
[15:24] <frikinz> dr_willis: did you try strace to know where the problem is? strace -f foobar
[15:25] <frikinz> dr_willis: ipv6 maybe?
[15:25] <dr_willis> havent done much on it last night then some googling. other apps had similer error (from google) with a pcap (?) library bug
[15:26] <[SLB]> i have znc running here on raspbian
[15:26] <frikinz> dr_willis: which kernel and distro are you running?
[15:26] <dr_willis> i cant get znc --makeconf to even finish
[15:26] <dr_willis> rasbian i downloaded last night.. im on my phone ;) sshed to the pi right now
[15:27] <frikinz> dr_willis: aptitude install strace; strace -f znc --makeconf and look for the system call and its parameters
[15:27] <frikinz> so, after rebooting, perl is still segfaulting :(
[15:27] <[SLB]> hm, first time you can run it as simply znc, no?
[15:28] <axion> Matt: give it a try sometime. no better yet...let me know when you want to give it a try.
[15:28] <Hoerie> znc --makeconf runs it if you finish
[15:28] <dr_willis> it needs a config file. i had the same issue however with a known working znc config from my ubuntu box
[15:28] <[SLB]> first time it's created automatically, hm i don't remember i ever used such a switch myself
[15:31] <Matt> axion: heh - I don't have the time, unfortunately :)
[15:31] <Matt> much as I love learning new languages
[15:32] <frikinz> socket(PF_INET6, SOCK_STREAM, IPPROTO_TCP) = -1 EAFNOSUPPORT (Address family not supported by protocol)
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[15:33] <frikinz> dr_willis: sudo modprobe ipv6
[15:37] <dr_willis> ok. will try that over ssh.
[15:39] <dr_willis> that got it. time to set that to auto load.
[15:39] <dr_willis> now i can yse my pi as my main znc server. ;-)
[15:40] <frikinz> do you need ipv6?
[15:40] <lxSnow_work> hey guys, I'm back
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[15:41] <buZz> from outer space
[15:41] <buZz> you just walked in
[15:41] <buZz> to find me here
[15:41] <buZz> with that same look upon my face
[15:41] <dr_willis> not that i know of. ;) but znc started working after thet modprobe
[15:42] <frikinz> not sure it will start after a reboot though as ipv6 is disabled by default in the kernel and you asked for ipv6 suport.
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[15:47] <dr_willis> i can set the module to autoload
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[15:49] <dr_willis> seems ipv6 is disabled by default.
[15:50] <dr_willis> from a ipv6.conf file
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[16:13] <atmosx> hello
[16:13] <advancednewbie> Hi.
[16:13] <Nik05> hoi
[16:13] <atmosx> Which digital signage soft for Pi (open source) does support channels with video? :-P
[16:14] <advancednewbie> 'channels with video'?
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[16:15] <atmosx> channels is a feature where the screen breaks in 2/3/4 parts. Each channels displays different data
[16:15] <theTroy> Hi guys, having trouble getting raspi to run. I burned the image onto 16GB SD card, plugged all in, and attached the power supply
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[16:15] <theTroy> the red light turns on, and the ACT light is very dim green
[16:15] <atmosx> so in channel 1 might have a scrolling text message (breaking news?) while down in channel 2 you might have a squared video
[16:15] <theTroy> but thats about it - no HDMI output
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[16:16] <advancednewbie> I understand now, not too sure though.
[16:16] <atmosx> okay thanks
[16:18] <advancednewbie> I thought about making an interface for omxplayer with text, sort of like how you're describing.
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[16:19] <advancednewbie> Almost like a terminal style xbmc
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[16:20] <dr_willis_> all righty. got znc going on the pi.
[16:21] <[SLB]> :)
[16:21] <Hoerie> congrats :-)
[16:22] <frikinz> and I lost my remote ssh connection to my pi while trying to reboot to debian on the SD :(
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[16:23] <frikinz> theTroy: how did you burn it and what did you burn?
[16:24] <theTroy> frikinz: wheezy with dd if/of on 16GB SD card
[16:24] <theTroy> the 1st image on raspi download page
[16:24] <frikinz> theTroy: you did dd to /dev/sdX and not /dev/sdX1 (or 2) right?
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[16:25] <theTroy> frikinz: that could be the issue, as I made 2 partitions and burned onto the first one
[16:25] <frikinz> the img is a disk image
[16:25] <frikinz> you can extract partitions though
[16:26] <theTroy> allright, I will try to burn it onto the device rather than partition and see if it works :)
[16:26] <theTroy> thanks
[16:27] <theTroy> Also, would a 400mA (I ran initially with 1.2A) work for ethernet-only (not HDMI/usb) operation?
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[16:28] <Hoerie> afaik you need 750mA minimum
[16:30] <yehnan> I'm using Pi Store to install Freeciv, it shows black background, raspberry pi logo, and "Install In Progress". The cpu usage is 100% for a long time. Is anything wrong?
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[16:30] <Cheery> https://gist.github.com/4319107 - WIP desktop environment written in coffeescript for raspberry pi
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[16:31] <dr_willis_> havent heard of 'pi store'
[16:31] <yehnan> dr_willis: http://store.raspberrypi.com/
[16:32] <yehnan> dr_willis: news http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2768
[16:32] <dr_willis_> some of these distros actually download the image on first boot. and can take 20+ min to get done
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[16:33] <DarkTherapy> afternoon all
[16:33] <shiftplusone> yehnan, do you see a terminal window open?
[16:33] <yehnan> shiftplusone: no.
[16:33] <shiftplusone> actually nvrm, I am not sure if freeciv is installed via apt-get
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[16:34] <shiftplusone> I'll test it out.
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[16:35] <shiftplusone> yup, you should see a terminal window open and install freeciv
[16:35] <dr_willis_> hmm.. a little web app store. ;) how nifty..
[16:35] <shiftplusone> but given that it's at 100% (which sounds normal for an apt -install), I am not sure
[16:36] <yehnan> well, cpu is down to 0%. I close Pi Store and restart it. Then Freeciv is installed!
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[16:37] <shiftplusone> I'll pass it on to the devs, thanks.
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[16:37] <SuperLag> I wish the rPi store had more rPi products besides just the codec licenses.
[16:38] <dr_willis_> freeciv has a client (several) and a server. and some extraas
[16:38] <dr_willis_> check out freecol also
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[16:45] <yehnan> shiftplusone: Now i'm installing Code::Blocks IDE. It does bring up a terminal window asking me to type y/n to continue.
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[16:45] <shiftplusone> yehnan, I don't think it should be asking either.... should just automatically install
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[16:47] <yehnan> shiftplusone: well...I did type "y" and hit Enter.
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[16:48] <shiftplusone> passed that on as well, thanks.
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[16:49] <shiftplusone> Also, there's a thread for pi store bugs on the forum.
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[17:11] <SuperLag> I'm ordering a larger SD card for my Pi. Can I just rsync everythong over to the new card, and have it work? or will I need to do the whole install all over again?
[17:12] <SuperLag> everything, that is
[17:14] <shiftplusone> Yup, that will work just fine.
[17:15] <nid0> well, if you want to rsync everything you'll need to manually setup partitions etc
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[17:15] <nid0> better all-in-one bet would be to dd everything off the current card then dd the result back to the new car
[17:15] <nid0> d
[17:15] <nid0> then expand the partition to fill it
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[17:17] <SuperLag> ugh
[17:17] <SuperLag> I hate messing with resizing partitions.
[17:18] <SuperLag> I know this is 2012... and it's supposed to work better than the old days... but it still makes me sweat.
[17:19] <shiftplusone> you can dd just the partition if you don't want to make it manually
[17:19] <nid0> delete partition, make replacement partition bigger, reboot, resize2fs
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[17:36] <gordonDrogon> pistore... why do I need a program to make it work?
[17:36] <invariant> I am interested in a xmbc setup. Does a Pi suit that purpose via Raspbmc or is it more of a tech demo?
[17:37] <gordonDrogon> can't I just download the code as normal and pay if I want it?
[17:37] <theTroy> Could someone suggest how to send Ctrl+C over ssh to raspi? the session is stuck on update process with no change in lasst few minutes
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[17:37] <gordonDrogon> theTroy, Type Control-C...
[17:37] <dr_willis_> raspbmc wirks great here
[17:37] <invariant> When I press a button, it shouldn't take ages for the machine to respond naturally.
[17:37] <theTroy> yeah, doesnt work for me gordonDrogon
[17:37] <gordonDrogon> theTroy, if that's not working, try Control-\
[17:37] <invariant> dr_willis_, do you know whether there is a Youtube video demonstrating interactivity under real world conditions?
[17:37] <theTroy> neither does that work
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[17:38] <invariant> dr_willis_, when you switch channels, goes that through the pi first?
[17:38] <theTroy> I hope ssh terminal session times out after a while
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[17:39] <dr_willis_> invariant: havent looked. it plays my hd videos fne. not sure wgat you mean by channels
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[17:39] <neilr> theTroy: can you start another session and use kill to terminate the first one?
[17:39] <invariant> dr_willis_, you know these things on your remote control called buttons with numbers from 0-9 on them which allow you to switch channel.
[17:40] <theTroy> neilr: just killed the first session, waiting for timeout to connect again
[17:40] <invariant> dr_willis_, already found a review on Youtube.
[17:40] <herzi> hej hej, people! Does anyone know whether there is an RSS feed for the torrent files on download.raspi.org? It would be awesome to fetch the new images when they are released (not when I remember to check the download page)
[17:40] <invariant> dr_willis_, is there nothing which annoys you about it?
[17:40] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, I am not a fan, but it's not for the likes of us. You can still apt-get or download directly pretty much everything there so far. It's just for people who want to put up paid apps and for people who want a UI app that keeps everything in one place.
[17:40] <invariant> dr_willis_, because if there is, then I'd rather just spend a bit more money.
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[17:41] <dr_willis_> invariant: heard of some audio popping when usung the phono out. all ive noticed as issues
[17:42] <invariant> dr_willis_, phono out?
[17:42] <dr_willis_> the analog phono jack.
[17:42] <dr_willis_> hdmi audio is goid.
[17:43] <invariant> Doesn't hdmi have all these copy protection things?
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[17:44] <dr_willis_> not noticed any issues wuth hdmi.
[17:45] <invariant> dr_willis_, where do you store your media? On a NAS?
[17:45] <dr_willis_> theres anti copy stuff in the hdmi standard.
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[17:45] <RavenII> Woo?HOO!
[17:45] <RavenII> I love when there's an IRC channel for something I'm researching.
[17:45] <dr_willis_> invariant: yes to both. local hd. and upno servers
[17:45] <dr_willis_> upno
[17:45] <dr_willis_> upnp
[17:46] <shiftplusone> RavenII, welcome
[17:46] <invariant> dr_willis_, a quiet one?
[17:46] <RavenII> thanks shiftplusone
[17:46] <invariant> dr_willis_, I have a few external ones, but they make a lot of noise.
[17:46] <invariant> dr_willis_, a lot being anything which you can hear on 4 meter distance.
[17:47] <invariant> dr_willis_, did you buy the MPEG license?
[17:47] <dr_willis_> havent really noticed the noise.
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[17:47] <ryanteck> Hi there!
[17:47] <invariant> dr_willis_, which harddisk model do you have then?
[17:47] <dr_willis_> invariant: nope. havent bought nothing
[17:48] <ryanteck> oooo I haz new tag
[17:48] <dr_willis_> i got a dozen different usb hds
[17:48] <invariant> dr_willis_, raspbmc looks very polished in this video.
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[17:49] <dr_willis_> invariant: yep. seems to work as good as my boxee box
[17:49] <RavenII> So, I'm trying to figure out what my best route is?so I do something like a Pi for a media center/file server? or the Mac Mini I have and let it rack up my bill...
[17:49] <ryanteck> I have to say that I loved using Raspbmc
[17:50] <RavenII> And would it be good as a Nas solution?
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[17:51] <RavenII> crap?gotta go to another building?duty calls. bbl.
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[17:51] <rymate1234> woww
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[17:51] <rymate1234> liking the pi store
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[17:53] <gordonDrogon> still scratching my head at the store - libreoffice and asterisk are both free and debian packages...
[17:53] <gordonDrogon> not that I'd want to run either on my Pi, however....
[17:53] <Datalink> does anyone know if the USB wifi dongle Adafruit sells is capable of managed mode?
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[17:54] <Datalink> store?
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[17:55] <dr_willis_> brb
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[17:58] <tanuva> has anyone successfully installed wicd on raspbmc? dpkg fails with "insserv: Service dbus has to be enabled to start service wicd", but dbus is installed and shows up in ps
[17:58] <tanuva> (there was a bug concerning that once, but that thread doesn't yield anything useful)
[17:59] <invariant> How can you control the rasbmbc? Is there like a remote control for it that is supported?
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[18:00] <tanuva> invariant: various infrared remotes are supposed to work, take a look at the wiki. besides, I'm using an iOS app as remote
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[18:01] <dr_willis_> they got mini keybords. or i got a $8 remote from amazon that emulates a keybord/mouse
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[18:02] <invariant> Would an n900 also work?
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[18:03] <dr_willis_> no ideea what a 9n000 is ;)
[18:03] <dr_willis_> n900
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[18:03] <invariant> nokia n900 phone. It has a infrared port.
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[18:03] <tanuva> invariant: it has an IR sender, so in theory thats possible if you find the right software
[18:04] <dr_willis_> and a reciever
[18:04] <dr_willis_> then again.. xbmc has a network type remote apps for smart phones
[18:04] <dr_willis_> ;)
[18:04] <invariant> http://simple-xbmc-rem.sourceforge.net/
[18:04] <tanuva> maybe even one of the web interfaces works well on the n900
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[18:05] <RavenII> Right, so?about a Pi as a SMB/FTP/DLNA/etc etc server?yay or nay?
[18:05] <schemanen> if you use wheezy, is it a specific xbmc version you should install?
[18:05] <dr_willis_> the boxee/xbmc apps for android work well
[18:05] <neilr> RavenII: I use one for mine for exactly those three things
[18:06] <neilr> miniDLNA for the DLNA part
[18:06] <RavenII> neilr, performance is decent?
[18:06] <RavenII> I'm not expecting i7 levels of performance?but are they tolerable?
[18:06] <neilr> No problems that I've ever come across.
[18:07] <neilr> I stream mp3s most of the day, and it copes just fine
[18:07] <RavenII> Cool?I'm trying to plan out a home theater in my new house?I want to try to eliminate the need for useless boxes/computers, etc.
[18:07] <neilr> Occasionally stream a movie, again, not had any problems
[18:08] <RavenII> There are Pi alternatives but don't know if they're worth it or have as much support as the Pi.
[18:08] <RavenII> that's a huge thing?the support.
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[18:09] <dr_willis_> its all about the details ;)
[18:09] <neilr> Give it a go. Even if you don't like it, you can use the pi for other stuff, like opening your garage door :)
[18:09] <RavenII> Now that I think about it?I actually don't even need it to be a nas since my RT-N16 does that for me?sooooo?
[18:09] <RavenII> hmm...
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[18:09] <shiftplusone> RavenII, Do you mind tinkering? Do you use linux?
[18:10] <neilr> My setup is about as simple as you could have. A smallish USB disk connected to a powered hub. Raspbian installed on the pi with Samba and miniDLNA
[18:10] <RavenII> I use a mac?is that linux? (kidding hahaha) Yeah, I'm decent with linux. Not a guru by any means?but enough to be able to break things.
[18:10] <neilr> That's about it really.
[18:10] <nid0> tbh, for an all in one you can just use and get on with, a synology NAS is gonna be your best bet
[18:10] <tanuva> RavenII: breaking things is a great skill, fixing them makes you even better at breaking :D
[18:10] <nid0> gives you everything in one small package
[18:11] <shiftplusone> RavenII, lol, then you should be fine.
[18:11] <neilr> It does a few other things, but nothing of interest outside of my shed.
[18:12] <rymate1234> hey
[18:12] <rymate1234> just got despotify from the pi app store
[18:13] <rymate1234> It gives me a blank terminal window
[18:13] <rymate1234> why is this
[18:14] <dr_willis_> run it from a terminal, look for error messages
[18:14] <nimtz> pi app store?
[18:15] <dr_willis_> a fancy web front end to apt it looks like ;)
[18:15] <dr_willis_> ubuntu has a similer thing.. apt:// type urls
[18:16] <shiftplusone> apt is one of the options, I think in reality it just runs an install.sh and an uninstall.sh which can be whatever the dev wants.
[18:16] <shiftplusone> rymate1234, are you sure it's blank? You didn't change the colour of the background or anything like that?
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[18:16] <shiftplusone> rymate1234, I just installed it and it seems to work fine
[18:17] <rymate1234> lemme cechk
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[18:18] <rymate1234> yup
[18:18] <rymate1234> right colours
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[18:19] <Toffe> Hello
[18:19] <dr_willis_> Jello
[18:19] <Toffe> Got a DVB-S tuner, and i would love some help installing the drivers :)
[18:20] <Toffe> Its a QBox S2 (TBS 5922)
[18:20] <Toffe> the driver i got is for x64 or 86
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[18:27] <rymate1234> compiling despotify from hexxeh's srcs
[18:27] <Toffe> Anyone know if i can get TBS5922 on raspberrypi? (running raspbmc)
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[18:33] <rymate1234> guys
[18:33] <rymate1234> what's this error?
[18:33] <rymate1234> /opt/vc/include/interface/vcos/vcos_types.h:38:33: fatal error: vcos_platform_types.h: No such file or directory
[18:33] <rymate1234> when compiling despotofy
[18:33] <rymate1234> *despotify
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[18:38] <john_f> rymate1234: missing a dep or not including the dir it is in.
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[18:39] <rymate1234> right
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[18:40] <RavenII> Is the mention of the alternatives allowed in here?
[18:40] <shiftplusone> RavenII, yes
[18:42] <shiftplusone> RavenII, no swearing or being a jerk , no bots and no advertising (without permission). That's about it.
[18:42] <RavenII> So?would the hackberry be a much better option than the Pi?
[18:42] <RavenII> gotcha
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[18:42] <dr_willis_> never heard of a hackberry
[18:42] <RavenII> granted almost double the price...
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[18:43] <dr_willis_> you might actually be able to order and get a hackberry within 6mo time...
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[18:43] <RavenII> it's just a faster proc and more ram (1.2 ghz and 1GB)
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[18:44] <rymate1234> gah
[18:44] <rymate1234> I've found two posts with my problem
[18:44] <rymate1234> both with no answers
[18:44] <rymate1234> :(
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[18:46] <tanuva> eth0 works fine on raspbmc, but what do I additionally need to have nameservers and default routes applied automatically for wlan0 (driven through network/interfaces and wpa-supplicant.conf)
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[18:53] <theTroy> Where is the config file for ssh daemon on raspi? I found one, but changing port does not seem to work there
[18:54] <shiftplusone> /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[18:54] <shiftplusone> then restart ssh
[18:55] <theTroy> hmm did try to change that, did do Port 841
[18:55] <theTroy> but it still only works on port 22
[18:55] <theTroy> (even rebooted pi)
[18:55] <shiftplusone> ssh(D)_config, not ssh_config, right?
[18:56] <shiftplusone> and did you uncomment the Port line by removing the leading '#'?
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[18:57] <theTroy> I need to improve my reading skills, thanks for pointing out the d :) I wanted to change THAT config, but the key must not have pressed well when I was typing
[18:57] <theTroy> thanks again :)
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[18:57] <shiftplusone> np
[18:57] <Kane> salut ici
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[18:59] <invariant> Can you also still browse the web on a raspmbc?
[18:59] <invariant> Or is that something you should simply accepts as requiring a different device?
[18:59] <invariant> er accept
[18:59] <tanuva> won't be much fun as long as there's no accelerated X driver
[19:00] <tanuva> and no flash of course
[19:00] <theTroy> no flash is not an issue once we get html5
[19:00] <rymate1234> no flash
[19:00] <rymate1234> ?
[19:00] <rymate1234> sounds like an iPhone
[19:00] <rymate1234> lol
[19:00] <theTroy> armV6
[19:00] <scummos> who needs flash
[19:00] <theTroy> flash only officially supports armV7
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[19:01] <theTroy> and god its been like 6 years since I used flash last time :)
[19:01] <tanuva> rymate1234: having no flash on the phone doesn't annoy me in any way
[19:01] <rymate1234> ^
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[19:11] <dr_willis_> there are some extensions for firefox to watch flash videos in vlc, or mplayer.
[19:11] <dakerfp> Cheery: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=67&t=25959
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[19:33] <bennypr0fane> Hello, I'm looking for a micro usb switching adaptor to power my 2nd Rasperry Pi. I ordered this one to go with the Raspi no.1: http://at.rs-online.com/web/p/external-power-supplies/7263053/ It outputs 1200mA. Now I have several micro usb chargers already from various cell phones or bluetooth headsets that output from 150 to 500mA. Does it make any sense to try using one of those for my 2nd Raspi?
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[19:35] <bennypr0fane> and different question: has anyone successfully tried to start an X session on a headless raspi through an SSH tunnel (I'm not sure what exactly an ssh tunnel is, i read it in a forum, and it's supposed to be easy)
[19:35] <dr_willis_> i use the one that came with my kindle fire
[19:35] <bennypr0fane> dr_willis_ do you know how much it outputs?
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[19:35] <dr_willis_> bennypr0fane: you can do c forwarding over ssh
[19:36] <bennypr0fane> I don't know what c forwarding is
[19:36] <dr_willis_> like 1.8 i belive..
[19:36] <dr_willis_> x forwarding
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[19:36] <dr_willis_> ssh to box run 'gedit' it appears locally
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[19:37] <dr_willis_> no need to do the whole desktop
[19:38] <bennypr0fane> dr_willis_ 1,8 is supposed to be over the limit according to this: http://www.raspberrypi.org/quick-start-guide Is it causing any trouble?
[19:38] <dr_willis_> not that ive seen
[19:38] <dr_willis_> seen guys in here say they are doing more
[19:39] <bennypr0fane> you mean I can start just any application thruogh ssh and see it in a window on my remote display?
[19:39] <dr_willis_> bennypr0fane: yes'
[19:39] <bennypr0fane> that sounds most elegant
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[19:39] <shiftplusone> don't expect quake to work like that though.
[19:39] <dr_willis_> if its got a x server running
[19:39] <shiftplusone> when you ssh, use the -Y parameter
[19:40] <bennypr0fane> more elegant and simple than: teamviewer, vnc, and getting the complete desktop
[19:40] <bennypr0fane> what's quake?
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[19:40] <shiftplusone> good
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[19:40] <rymate1234> bennypr0fane, a game
[19:41] <bennypr0fane> are you the same dr_willis_ that sometimes also hangs out in #ubuntu channel?
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[19:41] <bennypr0fane> rymate1234 I don't play games anyway
[19:41] <bennypr0fane> I would mainly want the raspi headless as a file server
[19:42] <bennypr0fane> shiftplusone the ssh -y parameter will forward an x window?
[19:42] <dr_willis_> bennypr0fane: im in there now..
[19:42] <DarkTherapy> my pi is headless and in the garage..
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[19:42] <pksato> bennypr0fane: RPi need minimun 750mA very stable PSU.
[19:42] <bennypr0fane> dr_willis_ then we've probably talked already over there
[19:42] <pw-> my pi came with some bad soldering, i baked it for a bit (not long enough according to some, as plastic didn't melt,) though this fixed it. it used to shut off after about a minute of uptime, but now works fine. except it stutters when playing 1080p through raspbmc. could this be a soldering thing, too, or would this be software?
[19:43] <dr_willis_> that sounds grusome DarkTherapy ;)
[19:43] <pksato> and, for headless desktop, use a vncserver.
[19:43] <shiftplusone> bennypr0fane, capital Y. It will set up your DISPLAY variable and enable X11 forwarding. So when you run... whatever you run, it will work.
[19:43] <bennypr0fane> pksato what's psu? Why is vnc better than going through ssh?
[19:43] <DarkTherapy> haha, have you seen my now famous "pi in the garage?"
[19:43] <DarkTherapy> http://youtu.be/NUJ5z76Xv5o
[19:43] <dr_willis_> vnc shares a whole desktop
[19:44] <pksato> with vncserver you can run some gui apps.
[19:44] <pksato> ssh is only text.
[19:44] <shiftplusone> pksato, he means with X forwarding enabled
[19:44] <pksato> if forward X11 display, it end after ssh clodes.
[19:44] <pksato> close.
[19:44] <bennypr0fane> pksato that's not what I've heard from other people
[19:45] <bennypr0fane> so I'll just leave ssh running
[19:45] <DarkTherapy> "screen" is handy on the pi
[19:45] <pksato> depend what you need.
[19:46] <shiftplusone> screen won't help with X forwarding much though
[19:46] <DarkTherapy> no..
[19:46] <DarkTherapy> but it's nice
[19:46] <DarkTherapy> for headless
[19:46] <bennypr0fane> I guess I really don't need the complete desktop. for use as a file server (NAS) - for home network, actually
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[19:47] <bennypr0fane> DArkTHerapy what is that "screen"
[19:47] <pksato> and, via ssh can not run a full desktop.
[19:47] <shiftplusone> pksato, yeah you can.
[19:47] <bennypr0fane> "pksato that's not what I've heard from other people"
[19:47] <DarkTherapy> bennypr0fane: let's you run tasks and have them still run after you end the ssh session
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[19:48] <bennypr0fane> ...ask 2 people, get 3 opinions...
[19:48] <viric> bennypr0fane: gnu screen
[19:48] <viric> find it.
[19:48] <pksato> except, if run a new X server to use with ssh forwarded X11.
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[19:49] <shiftplusone> there's also Xnest
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[19:49] <pksato> or Xephyr
[19:50] <shiftplusone> On windows, I have the full desktop in X Cygwin through putty (for pi store testing). Works no worse than the real thing. Until we have an accelerated X server anyway.
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[19:50] <pksato> and make a RPi a remote desktop server.
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[19:52] <pksato> windows dont have a X session manager (window manager) already runnig.
[19:52] <dr_willis_> you can use xming on windowsa for a x server
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[19:52] <shiftplusone> xming or x cygwin, yes.
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[19:53] <bennypr0fane> https://forums.ebuyer.com/showthread.php/78337-Raspberry-Pi-Remote-Access?p=1366025&viewfull=1#post1366025
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[19:55] <bennypr0fane> Is it true what this guy says in post #6?
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[19:56] <shiftplusone> bennypr0fane, Yeah, I don't see anything wrong there.
[19:56] <bennypr0fane> is this channel logged? I'm gonna need to look this up later.
[19:56] <shiftplusone> bennypr0fane, yup, check the topic.
[19:56] <dr_willis_> ssh and x forwarding is documented all over the place. ;) works decently well
[19:57] <bennypr0fane> it's not written there...
[19:57] <shiftplusone> " Logs @ http://srv.datagutt1.com "
[19:57] <bennypr0fane> then pksato why you keep saying it doesn't?
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[19:57] <bennypr0fane> thanks shiftplusone
[19:57] <pksato> what I say?
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[19:59] <pksato> ssh X forward run any X11 program over ssh. but some programas like a windows manager can't run, due conflict with local windows manager.
[19:59] <bennypr0fane> you said X via ssh is not possible/doesn't work
[19:59] <shiftplusone> bennypr0fane, he is saying that you can't just start a full desktop session without it interferring with you currently running session. You'd need to run a nested X server (runs in a window) or start a new one with nothing in it.
[19:59] <dr_willis_> you can x forward the whole desktop - done that in xming on windows
[20:00] <pksato> I don't sayd it. I told what can't not run a full desktop, execpt if use a new X server.
[20:00] <dr_willis_> but its not the best use of it.
[20:00] <bennypr0fane> so is anyone of you running the Pi headless atm? DarkTherapy already left..
[20:00] <shiftplusone> yes
[20:00] <shiftplusone> lots of us
[20:01] <SuperLag> headless. Yep.
[20:01] <pksato> Sorry for any misunderstanding due to my bad english. :)
[20:01] <bennypr0fane> pksato sorry I misunderstood you
[20:02] <bennypr0fane> so what's *your* method that you use all the time?
[20:02] <bennypr0fane> I'm trying to find out what will give me the least possible headache :-)
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[20:03] <dr_willis_> vnc to access a remote 'desktop' , ssh and x forwarding for single apps. ;)
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[20:04] <bennypr0fane> buuut: I haven't even found out how to determine the Pi's IP address on my home network yet. The problem is I don't have access to the router because it's locked by my ISP
[20:04] <pksato> vnc if need to keep programas running after client disconection.
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[20:05] <bennypr0fane> or gnu screen, right?
[20:05] <pksato> screen is for text programs.
[20:05] <bennypr0fane> command line you mean?
[20:05] <pksato> yes.
[20:05] <shiftplusone> bennypr0fane, screen keeps the terminal session going. Once the ssh connection is closed, X forwarding breaks and those applications exit.
[20:05] <pksato> Text oriented.
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[20:06] <bennypr0fane> so I can close down vnc and started processes will keep running on the Pi?
[20:06] <dr_willis_> screen is such a handy tool... go learn about it. ;)
[20:06] <bennypr0fane> ok
[20:06] <bennypr0fane> will do
[20:06] <dr_willis_> bennypr0fane: yes. a vncserver is persistant
[20:06] <bennypr0fane> cool
[20:06] <bennypr0fane> so that would certainly worth the effort
[20:07] <shiftplusone> bennypr0fane, just try multiple approaches, they all have their best use cases.
[20:07] <bennypr0fane> I see
[20:07] <shiftplusone> you're going overboard with the decision making there =p
[20:07] <pksato> A time ago, I used vcnserver to keep torrent client running.
[20:07] <AndrevS> In the past I've also used NX to run X software remotely.
[20:07] <bennypr0fane> My fault it's what I keep asking people to do
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[20:08] <shiftplusone> Plenty of console torrent clients out there
[20:08] <AndrevS> But that was way before I'd touched any ARM board.
[20:08] <shiftplusone> and by plenty I mean rtorrent... since it's more than most people need.
[20:08] <AndrevS> For torrents I use transmission-daemon
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[20:09] <dr_willis_> most torrent clients these days have a web interface
[20:09] <bennypr0fane> but really you can start down one path and try it but can extremely super time consuming If you don't know already what you're doing and are just starting to figure things out
[20:09] <shiftplusone> bennypr0fane, yeah NX is another option and probably the fastest too. I couldn't get it working on pi though.
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[20:10] <shiftplusone> NX will take a while to set up though
[20:10] <bennypr0fane> more than vnc?
[20:10] <chris_99> isn't there something better than NX now?
[20:10] <shiftplusone> yeah
[20:10] <chris_99> as it doesn't seem to be maintained
[20:10] <pksato> NX... what is a name I try to remember.
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[20:10] <bennypr0fane> any clues about that IP address problem?
[20:11] <AndrevS> My problem with NX is, it runs a complete X screen with window manager and stuff. What I am really looking for is like a "screen" for X. Just one application, not a whole desktop
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[20:11] <pksato> bennypr0fane: Its is more complicate.
[20:11] <shiftplusone> AndrevS, pretty sure it can do a single window too. Just need to enable that option on the client.
[20:12] <shiftplusone> If I recall correctly, the windows nomachine nx client has that option at least
[20:12] <pksato> But, is a common question.
[20:12] <AndrevS> shiftplusone, I hadn't find such an option. I have used the nomachine NX, but... that way a few years ago, so it might have changed.
[20:12] <shiftplusone> bennypr0fane, if you set the hostname will your router resolve it to the IP?
[20:12] <bennypr0fane> all the instructions I have found for determining the IP address require access to router's config page - which I don't have :-(
[20:13] <atouk> benny, raspbian?
[20:13] <shiftplusone> bennypr0fane, also, if you have access to the pi right now, you can check easily too. (ifconfig)
[20:13] <bennypr0fane> shiftplusone I dunno, don't know how to do that
[20:13] <bennypr0fane> atouk yes
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[20:13] <atouk> from a dos box on a pc "ping raspberrypi"
[20:14] <atouk> it will reply with the ip if it's found on the network
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[20:14] <shiftplusone> 'a dos box' O_o Haven't seen it called that, heh.
[20:14] <atouk> cok, "command prompt"
[20:15] <dr_willis_> heh.. does dosbox work on the pi?
[20:15] <shiftplusone> yeah
[20:15] <shiftplusone> not too fast though
[20:15] <atouk> from windows
[20:15] <bennypr0fane> shiftplusone I currently have access, because it's attached to my display. If I connect it to the router it'll 1. get a different IP address than right now and 2. have to be headless because the router is in the ohter room, no 2nd display
[20:15] <shiftplusone> bennypr0fane, did 'ping raspberrypi' work?
[20:16] <shiftplusone> after connecting to the router
[20:16] <shiftplusone> if it doesn't, you can make a script to make your pi announce itself I suppose.
[20:16] <bennypr0fane> atouk "ping raspberrypi" if the Pi's host is raspberrypi?
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[20:16] <shiftplusone> that's the default hostname on raspbian
[20:16] <atouk> yup
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[20:17] <atouk> should look like this
[20:17] <atouk> C:\Documents and Settings\Henry>ping raspberrypi
[20:17] <atouk> Pinging raspberrypi [192.168.1.141] with 32 bytes of data:
[20:17] <atouk> Reply from 192.168.1.141: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
[20:17] <atouk> Reply from 192.168.1.141: bytes=32 time=2ms TTL=64
[20:17] <atouk> Reply from 192.168.1.141: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
[20:17] <atouk> Reply from 192.168.1.141: bytes=32 time=1ms TTL=64
[20:17] <atouk> Ping statistics for 192.168.1.141:
[20:17] <atouk> Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
[20:17] <atouk> Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
[20:17] <atouk> Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 2ms, Average = 1ms
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[20:18] <adb> atouk, use a PASTE site ..
[20:18] <bennypr0fane> well now it's connected to my desktop pc sharing its network connection. In here I'm on my laptop I guess It can't see the Pi through my desktop?
[20:18] <bennypr0fane> $ ping raspberrypi
[20:18] <bennypr0fane> ping: unknown host raspberrypi
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[20:19] <dr_willis_> ping the ip #
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[20:19] <pksato> make rpi to tweet local ip. :)
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[20:20] <dr_willis_> i need to change my hostname on my pi also
[20:20] <bennypr0fane> also ~$ ssh -X pi@raspberrypi
[20:20] <bennypr0fane> ssh: Could not resolve hostname raspberrypi: Name or service not known
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[20:21] <rymate1234> try raspberrypi.home
[20:21] <rymate1234> works for me
[20:21] <pksato> or, use fixed/static ip.
[20:21] <bennypr0fane> dr_willis_ that's the initial problem - I don't know the IP
[20:21] <atouk> is it hooked up via cable, or is it on wifi
[20:21] <pksato> from name not allways works.
[20:22] <dr_willis_> bennypr0fane: nmap scan the network ;)
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[20:22] <bennypr0fane> pksato I don't have a static IP from my provider, is it still possible to assign one on the home network?
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[20:22] <AndrevS> enter in the bootscript : "echo 0 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts" and do a broadcast ping
[20:22] <bennypr0fane> dr_willis_ atouk via cable
[20:23] <dr_willis_> my router remembers the ip to mac assignents. :) so i basically have static ips
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[20:23] <bennypr0fane> but you dont pay for them?
[20:23] <pksato> if you have a local home router. It use privete ip range.
[20:23] <bennypr0fane> yes
[20:23] <dr_willis_> isp ==> router ==> my lan
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[20:24] <dr_willis_> my isp gives me 1 ip... my home lan is not their business. ;)
[20:24] <bennypr0fane> so within that private ip range, I can can assign a static address to all devices on the lan, yes?
[20:24] <dr_willis_> yes.
[20:24] <dr_willis_> my home lan is basically static. they can change byut rarely do
[20:25] <bennypr0fane> gonna try the nmap scan now. I installed like half a dozen ip scanning apps last night but then got too tired to try anything
[20:25] <pksato> private ip begins with 10. , 172.16. or 192.168.
[20:25] <bennypr0fane> I think it's 10. in my case...
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[20:26] <pksato> but, some ISP use a privete ip.
[20:26] <rymate1234> woo xorg forwarding
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[20:28] <pw-> anyone here overclock their pi in a closed enclosure?
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[20:28] <dr_willis_> they got heatsink kits you can buy pw ;) if you are wanting to play it safe
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[20:29] <Gottox> pw-: works fine, except at xbmc.
[20:29] <pw-> what problems do you have with xbmc?
[20:30] <Gottox> with xbmc, even when idling in the menu, the cpu is busy.
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[20:30] <feeshon> Cannot connec using WPA supplicant....Get the following error Line 10: Invalid PSK ''. Line 10: failed to parse psk '' when running wpa_supplicant
[20:30] <bennypr0fane> pw- mine's OC'ed to 900
[20:31] <pw-> bennypr0fane: that's what i want to take it up to
[20:31] <pw-> i have an airtight case, don't know if it's a good idea
[20:31] <pw-> it stutters when playing 1080p
[20:31] <Gottox> 950 is ok too. 1000 killed the fs on the sdcard.
[20:31] <bennypr0fane> it's in this case: http://at.rs-online.com/web/c/?searchTerm=asm19&sra=oss
[20:31] <bennypr0fane> is that what you mean by airtight?
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[20:32] <Gottox> pw-: with omxplayer or xbmc?
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[20:32] <pw-> with raspbmc, which i believe uses omxplayer
[20:32] <shiftplusone> axion seems to have a 1000 overclock config which doesn't mess up the sdcard
[20:33] <pw-> i bumped it up to 840 from 800, much much less stuttering
[20:33] <shiftplusone> (if I understand correctly)
[20:33] <pw-> i think 900 might do me
[20:33] <axion> shiftplusone: wrong. even stock messes up my sdcard
[20:33] <axion> shiftplusone: i only keep /boot there
[20:33] <Gottox> I'm using omxplayer and the cpu is around 15%
[20:33] <Gottox> 1080p works just fine
[20:33] <bennypr0fane> Is anyone using the Pi as an NAS? I heard it has very high overhead for the usb so crappy performance serving up an external hdd over usb
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[20:33] <axion> it is however very stable...just as stock is
[20:33] <shiftplusone> axion, ah, is your config at least less prone to corrupting the sdcard than the stock turbo mode way in raspi-config?
[20:33] <pw-> if it's a NAS server it over the network
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[20:33] <pw-> serve*
[20:34] <feeshon> Can anyone help with a wpa_supplicant issue running on raspbmc?
[20:34] <bennypr0fane> pw- yes, but the hdd is attached to the usb
[20:34] <Gottox> pw-: there are some issues on the DTS audio codec, afaik.
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[20:34] <shiftplusone> Well then.... I blame TAFB for saying good things about your config then >=/
[20:34] <Gottox> but video just plays fine here.
[20:35] <shiftplusone> feeshon, there's always #raspbmc too
[20:35] <axion> shiftplusone: i wouldnt know. before i even attempted overclocking i spent 2 months and 6 sd cards ruined.
[20:35] <axion> shiftplusone: this runs awesome on a 2.5" ssd though
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[20:35] <pw-> axion, where would i find you 1000mhz settings? >.>
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[20:35] <pw-> your*
[20:35] <pw-> words are hard.
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[20:35] <axion> TAFB:
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[20:36] <axion> can you link to your page for us?
[20:36] <shiftplusone> http://pastebin.com/1aBsWs87
[20:36] <Gottox> 1000mhz is not stable.
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[20:36] <pw-> axion says it is
[20:37] <axion> it doesnt run at that all the time. it runs at that (within warranty) when needed. and tbh a few here know i have had my pi on for almost 2 months uninterrupted
[20:37] <axion> and TAFB says his has been going for a while too
[20:37] <Gottox> the raspi-config warns you about setting the device to 1000MHz and I experienced why it does :)
[20:37] <Gottox> It killed the fs on the sd-card
[20:38] <axion> raspi-config is a menu driven abstraction around writing your own config file and reading the spec yourself
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[20:38] <bennypr0fane> wooohooo, I got in! http://pastebin.com/kPYEWTAh
[20:38] <rymate1234> Gottox, happened to me too :(
[20:39] <axion> thats a power issue then
[20:39] <axion> the pi can happily run higher than 1.35V (which my config uses at most)
[20:39] <bennypr0fane> but no x though
[20:39] <axion> at the risk of overvolting though
[20:39] <Gottox> axion: i'm using a 2A power supply, I really don't think so.
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[20:40] <shiftplusone> the supply might not matter if your polyfuse is causing a significant drop
[20:40] <shiftplusone> or your cable is bad
[20:40] <axion> rated amperage doesnt mean anything
[20:40] <shiftplusone> or the supply gives a messy output
[20:40] <pw-> so setting it to "Super" in raspbmc settings froze it up =(
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[20:40] <axion> some pi's have different hardware
[20:40] <Gottox> axion: it is a known issue.
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[20:41] <axion> for which ram chip?
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[20:41] <Gottox> I experienced it on the 4G model
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[20:42] <bennypr0fane> ...to install vnc *via ssh*?
[20:42] <pw-> hmm, weird that the options raspbmc offers as presets are 800, 840, and 950
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[20:42] <pw-> you'd think there'd be a 900 in there
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[20:42] <axion> Compare super and my config
[20:42] <dr_willis_> sudo apt-get install avncserveryouwant
[20:42] <bennypr0fane> this is just awesome. I can get in to the Pi's Synaptic!
[20:42] <shiftplusone> bennypr0fane, did you use ssh -Y pi@raspberrypi ?
[20:43] <bennypr0fane> shiftplusone almost: ssh -X pi@raspberrypi
[20:43] <pw-> i don't know if i'm brave enough to go to 1000
[20:43] <shiftplusone> try with -Y next time
[20:43] <bennypr0fane> what exactly is the differnece?
[20:43] <axion> anyway, it works for me more than 50 days up. ymmv
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[20:43] <rymate1234> I'm sure its -X for x11 portforwarding
[20:43] <dr_willis_> Y for local lan will be a litle faster i think
[20:43] <rymate1234> -port
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[20:43] <rymate1234> dr_willis_, it will?
[20:43] <pw-> axion: but you only have /boot on the SD card
[20:44] <shiftplusone> -x Disables X11 forwarding.
[20:44] <shiftplusone> -Y Enables trusted X11 forwarding. Trusted X11 forwardings are not
[20:44] <shiftplusone> subjected to the X11 SECURITY extension controls.
[20:44] <rymate1234> I might try that
[20:44] <dr_willis_> id have to check the docs. ;)
[20:44] <shiftplusone> ignore the first part
[20:44] <dr_willis_> it gets rid of a little overhead i belive
[20:44] <rymate1234> once I've apt-getted gedit
[20:45] <pw-> axion: do you have suggested settings for 900?
[20:45] <bennypr0fane> Why do I get ~ $ synaptic
[20:45] <bennypr0fane> Gtk-Message: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
[20:45] <bennypr0fane> but the app window still comes up? I'm on Ubuntu /w Unity
[20:45] <pw-> brb, for some reason this channel refuses to autoscroll
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[20:45] <bennypr0fane> also says I can't make changes
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[20:46] <pw-> so yeah, any suggestions for 900?
[20:46] <bennypr0fane> hah need to sudo it maybe...
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[20:46] <rymate1234> bennypr0fane, it basically means you ain't going to have a gtk theme
[20:46] <axion> pw-: my config is within warranty, and only overclocks ondemand when the cpu needs more. also, i lowered the temp limit, which you can too if you are paranoid. lowering it will turn off the cpu boost when/if it gets too hot
[20:47] <pw-> but you mentioned it killed your SD card, that's the bit i'm worried about
[20:47] <axion> no i did not
[20:47] <bennypr0fane> grrr, what's thi snow? pi@raspberrypi ~ $ sudo synaptic
[20:47] <bennypr0fane> X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication.
[20:47] <bennypr0fane> (synaptic:2123): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: localhost:10.0
[20:47] <pw-> i'm pretty sure i'm out of warranty already anyway, i'm not worried about the pi itself
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[20:47] <axion> i mentioned i have one of the few pi's that will corrupt any sd card after a day or 2 with a rootfs
[20:47] <pw-> i had to bake it when i got it, had bad soldering, wouldn't stay up longer than 30 seconds
[20:47] <axion> some others in here do as well
[20:47] <pw-> ah i see
[20:47] <pw-> ok, then i'll try your settings
[20:47] <pw-> 950 mhz just froze my pi, though
[20:48] <pw-> which is why i'm wary and was wanting to try 900
[20:48] <bennypr0fane> pw- what's with the baking? like you actually put it into an oven? that fixes things?
[20:48] <pw-> you put it into an oven, aye
[20:48] <axion> as i said, i never even tried to o/c until the 2 months of pain i went through before i moved to an SSD for rootfs
[20:48] <pw-> it melts the solder and reflows it
[20:48] <bennypr0fane> omg
[20:48] <bennypr0fane> kinda brutal
[20:48] <pw-> 3 minutes at 400F
[20:48] <pw-> it's pretty common, bennypr0fane
[20:48] <rymate1234> axion, how do you put rootfs on an SSD
[20:48] <rymate1234> :o
[20:49] <axion> just edit cmdline.txt and change the root
[20:49] <bennypr0fane> I need a break
[20:49] <rymate1234> ah
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[20:49] <dr_willis_> i saw a keybord today you can wash in the sink... ;)
[20:49] <rymate1234> maybe I should put my rootfs on my 8GB memory stick
[20:49] <axion> it may be very slow
[20:49] <axion> may is an understatement
[20:50] <rymate1234> lol
[20:50] <rymate1234> how is your SSD connected then?
[20:52] <pw-> what's the config.txt location?
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[20:52] <axion> well its a drive. not a memory stick
[20:52] <axion> /boot
[20:53] <rymate1234> Setting up gnome-sushi (0.4.1-3) ...
[20:53] <rymate1234> o.o
[20:54] <pw-> now if i can remember how to use vi, damn it.
[20:54] <rymate1234> lolvi
[20:54] <rymate1234> should use vim
[20:54] <pw-> no vim on raspbian, guess i could install it
[20:55] <pw-> last time i used linux was red hat 5.2, i'm a bit rusty
[20:55] <rymate1234> I = Insert
[20:55] <rymate1234> arrow keys = move cursor
[20:55] <rymate1234> save and quit = :wq
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[20:56] <dr_willis_> theres the vimtutor app ;)
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[21:01] <rymate1234> guys
[21:01] <rymate1234> wat this error
[21:01] <rymate1234> rpi_audio.c:32:22: fatal error: ilclient.h: No such file or directory
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[21:01] <pw-> axion: i'm using your settings, i see no gpu_freq in there
[21:01] <pw-> wat do
[21:01] <shiftplusone> rymate1234, Exactly what it says, heh.
[21:01] <shiftplusone> rymate1234, that file either does no exist or is not in your include path
[21:02] <rymate1234> right
[21:02] <rymate1234> time to find ilclient.h!
[21:02] <pw-> axion: you around, pal?
[21:02] <shiftplusone> sudo find / -iname ilclient.h
[21:02] <shiftplusone> should turn it up quickly
[21:03] <shiftplusone> /opt/vc/src/hello_pi/libs/ilclient/ilclient.h
[21:03] <pw-> seems he's afk. can anyone else answer my stupid question?
[21:03] <pw-> i'm editing config.txt according to this: http://pastebin.com/1aBsWs87
[21:03] <pw-> it has no gpu_freq, and the current config.txt does. wat do
[21:04] <shiftplusone> pw-, i'd just leave that line as is
[21:04] <axion> pw-: please read the config.txt documentation
[21:04] <axion> you'll see why
[21:04] <axion> gpu_freq Sets core_freq, h264_freq, isp_freq, v3d_freq together. Default 250
[21:04] <rymate1234> yay
[21:05] <pw-> so remove the line?
[21:05] <axion> as it is only a video pi, i leave 3d at its norm
[21:05] <axion> you may not have good results increasing it anyway
[21:05] <pw-> right, so do i leave it at 253 (it's currently at that) or should i remove the line?
[21:06] <shiftplusone> remove
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[21:06] <shiftplusone> gpu_freq Sets core_freq, h264_freq, isp_freq, v3d_freq together. Default 250
[21:06] <pw-> ty. i am not a smart man
[21:06] <rymate1234> ffffff
[21:06] <rymate1234> cc: error: /opt/vc/src/hello_pi/libs/libilclient.a: No such file or directory
[21:06] <shiftplusone> he sets them individually
[21:07] <pw-> what of the other lines? like disable_overscan=1, and the memory split?
[21:08] <pw-> those aren't in the pastebin either
[21:08] <shiftplusone> pw-, pastebin just has the overclock config. the rest are up to you.
[21:08] <shiftplusone> whatever you need for your monitor
[21:08] <pw-> ok
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[21:12] <pw-> overclocked it, waiting for it to come up
[21:12] <pw-> nervous >.>
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[21:14] * dr_willis_ waits for the boon
[21:14] <dr_willis_> boom
[21:16] <shiftplusone> pw-, don't worry
[21:16] <shiftplusone> it's not so much a boom as it is a pop
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[21:16] <pw-> hmm, is it going to ask me to change config.txt each time i boot it up now?
[21:16] <shiftplusone> it asked you to change the config?
[21:17] <pw-> yeah, it said it differs from add-on, would i like add-on to change config.txt
[21:17] <pw-> which doesn't even make sense
[21:17] <shiftplusone> never seen that, but I ssh in
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[21:20] <shiftplusone> how do you read the cpu temp sensor? Is there a file in /sys somewhere?
[21:21] <rymate1234> crap
[21:21] <rymate1234> despotify: rpi_audio.c:108: audioplay_create: Assertion `st->audio_render != ((void *)0)' failed.
[21:21] <rymate1234> time fo' hacking!
[21:21] <frikinz> yes. find /sys -name temp
[21:21] <shiftplusone> yeah, figured it out already /sys/devices/virtual/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
[21:22] <pw-> <+shiftplusone> never seen that, but I ssh in
[21:22] <pw-> i sshd in to change config.txt
[21:22] <pw-> then when i rebooted the pi, raspbmc popped up with that
[21:22] <shiftplusone> oh
[21:22] <shiftplusone> that's a raspbmc problem
[21:23] <shiftplusone> go through the addons and see if there is a config or an option to disable whichever one is complaining about the config.txt
[21:23] <pw-> hmm
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[21:23] <shiftplusone> but idn, I don't use raspbmc
[21:24] <pw-> it doesn't say which one is the problem, just says "add-on." I guess i could go through each one separately
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[21:25] <gordonDrogon> anoter quiet evening.
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[21:26] <gordonDrogon> still wrestling with trying to record a video off a laptop running XP though - anyone done this?
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> the quality seems really bad with the packages I've tried )-:
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[21:32] <dr_willis> hmmm
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[21:49] <RavenII> So, some guy makes a big deal of the Pi being ARMv6 only?is this a big issue for a "kind of power user"...
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[21:49] <gordonDrogon> on the forums?
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[21:50] <RavenII> Nah, some comparison video on?youtube.
[21:51] <dr_willis> RavenII: For the Pi's intended purpose i imagine its good enough.
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[21:51] <dr_willis> it would be nice in some ways if it was an Arm 7. ubuntu and some other stuff would run from what i read. but thats life.
[21:52] <rymate1234> gonna wipe my Pi
[21:53] <frikinz> yes for this reason i would have liked an armv7 too..
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[21:53] <RavenII> Aha, in that case?I wonder what an alternative would be.
[21:53] <rymate1234> why would you want ubuntu?
[21:53] <rymate1234> Raspbian is good enough
[21:54] <dr_willis> theres other mini-arm pcs out there. but are like in the $100 range
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[21:54] <RavenII> Raspbian??(forgive me, I'm still learning/exploring)
[21:54] <RavenII> I'll read into it
[21:54] <rymate1234> Its Debian
[21:54] <rymate1234> Ubuntu is based of Debian
[21:54] <dr_willis> thats the default debian-raspberry mix disrto.
[21:54] <dr_willis> I use ubuntu on my main pcs
[21:54] <frikinz> unfortunatly not the official debian
[21:55] <xzr> having worked on ubuntu at work the past few years
[21:55] <xzr> I've learned to fucking loathe it
[21:55] <xzr> :D
[21:55] <RavenII> kik
[21:55] <RavenII> lol too
[21:56] <RavenII> See there are things like the miniand hackberry A10 which seems promising?among a few?(very few) others
[21:56] <RavenII> The main reason is because I'm using to stream from an SDR which requires just a wee bit more processing power.
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[21:59] <plugwash> mmm, rebuilding ubuntu for the Pi is definately doable but it won't be an easy project
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[22:22] <CelticTurnip> hi all
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[22:25] <biberao> hi
[22:26] <biberao> http://www.inmotion.pt/store/wifi-usb-dongle-(802.11bgn)-for-raspberry-pi vs http://www.inmotion.pt/store/wifi-usb-dongle-rtl8188cu-raspberry-pi
[22:26] <biberao> please
[22:26] <biberao> ?
[22:27] <biberao> its in english
[22:27] <buZz> which part of the url is the question
[22:28] <biberao> which one should i get?
[22:28] <buZz> i like ralink better than realtek
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[22:28] <biberao> damn its out of stock
[22:28] <biberao> .\
[22:29] <biberao> one more thing
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[22:30] <biberao> whats the best way to use the pi
[22:30] <biberao> without a keyboard hooked to it
[22:31] <nx5> any news on model a availability?
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[22:32] <Joeboy> biberao: ssh or a serial console (probably the former unless you have an ftdi cable knocking about)
[22:32] <biberao> Joeboy: i wanted to play movies
[22:32] <biberao> lol
[22:32] <biberao> :P
[22:33] <Joeboy> oh, dunno then
[22:34] <pksato> biberao: ir remote control. (via hdmi cec, if connected to a tv)
[22:34] <biberao> its an old tv
[22:34] <biberao> hey
[22:34] <biberao> i need also an sub hub
[22:34] <pksato> or. bluetooth.
[22:34] <biberao> *usb
[22:35] <biberao> but that requires a usb hub
[22:35] <biberao> no?
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[22:35] <pksato> you need a usb hub if need to connect more that two devices.
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[22:36] <pksato> and, a external powered usb hub.
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[22:42] <Torikun> Hello
[22:42] <Torikun> What is the url for the new way to overclock
[22:44] <pksato> idea, a GPIO to HID sw converter/interpleter, to use RPi as media center like device.
[22:44] <biberao> pksato:
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[22:44] <biberao> i can connect a normal
[22:44] <biberao> hdd external
[22:44] <biberao> without a hub?
[22:44] <pksato> yes. but, hdd need external power.
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[22:45] <biberao> thought so
[22:45] <biberao> a dude online
[22:45] <biberao> said he maanged to make one work
[22:45] <biberao> without usb powered
[22:45] <Torikun> akiwiguy:
[22:45] <pksato> or. power rpi from GPIO header, instead from a micro usb.
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[22:53] <biberao> pksato: how?
[22:53] <biberao> will it need soldering?
[22:54] <pksato> no.
[22:54] <pksato> only some special cable.
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[22:54] <biberao> im leaving thanks
[22:54] <biberao> byebye
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[22:58] <pksato> special cable like this: https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/MWT41S6N4v7NXoBdmaNEjdMTjNZETYmyPJy0liipFm0?feat=directlink
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[23:02] <bparker> I use this cable to power my rpi and have serial access: https://www.adafruit.com/products/954
[23:03] <gordonDrogon> Hm. iftop doesn't show IPv6 )-:
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[23:09] <Mensch-Maschine> Hi
[23:09] <Mensch-Maschine> Total newb, here, mind if I ask around before I order anything?
[23:09] <gordonDrogon> uploading 300MB to youtube and it's taking a long time - and crippling my connection in the process. must get round to workout out traffic shaping under ipv6...
[23:10] <gordonDrogon> sure - might not get any answers :)
[23:10] <gordonDrogon> or you might get a dozen conflicting ones ...
[23:10] <Mensch-Maschine> It???s worth giving a try. Thanks.
[23:12] <Mensch-Maschine> I have two projects in mind. First, a light-based alarm clock.
[23:13] <gordonDrogon> ok
[23:14] <Mensch-Maschine> So I was thinking Raspberry + BlinkM (MaxM? I don???t know yet. Much more powerful, but very narrow angle). Will I be able to plug them straightforward or will I need a controller of some sort?
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[23:17] <Mensch-Maschine> If I use a BlinkM, will I be able to power it through a Pi (with the 5V dcc + the commands ??? which are 3.3V, if I got i right) or not?
[23:18] <gordonDrogon> yes, the pi is 3.3v
[23:21] <Mensch-Maschine> But there is a 5V Vcc, right?
[23:21] <Mensch-Maschine> Because the tech sheet for the BlinkM claims: "The BlinkM CPU will operate down the 2.7V. However, not all LEDs will be able to turn fully on. The blue and green LEDs need approximately 3.5V to turn on completely. Running BlinkM at <3.5V doesn???t harm anything but does reduce color accuracy."
[23:22] <Mensch-Maschine> I???m not sure if that means it has to be power with 5V or commanded with 5V. *I don???t now the first thing about practical electronics*
[23:23] <plugwash> There is a 5V power pin on the Pi but you MUST NOT feed 5V into the Pis IO lines
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[23:24] <Mensch-Maschine> plugwash: Ok. I have no idea what that means. That means: if you power some stuff with the 5V Vcc, then you???ll fry everything if you try to command it with the pi too?
[23:25] <plugwash> It means if you power some stuff with the 5V Vcc you have to be REALLY careful how you connect it to the Pi
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[23:27] <Mensch-Maschine> plugwash: as in? Build a simple, proper circuit with some resistors to ensure 3.3V on the right pins?
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[23:28] <plugwash> Right, any signals going from a 5V the device to the Pi will need circuitry to reduce the signal level.
[23:29] <plugwash> signals going from the Pi to the 5V device won't break anything but depending on the characteristics of the 5V device may need a buffer to bring the logic levels up to where the 5V device will recognise them
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[23:31] <megaproxy> TAFB, are you there?
[23:31] <Mensch-Maschine> I???ll just need to use SDA and SCL, can I fry something with those?
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[23:33] <scummos> Mensch-Maschine: don't short them to other pins configured as output
[23:34] <scummos> Mensch-Maschine: especially DO NOT connect them to the 5V output
[23:34] <scummos> other than that, no, not really. max current is 2mA per pin.
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[23:34] <gordonDrogon> 16mA per pin...
[23:34] <scummos> oh? ok.
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[23:35] <scummos> someone told me it was 2mA
[23:35] <scummos> but apparently someone was wrong ;)
[23:35] <gordonDrogon> in theory it's a max combined dra of 50mA off the 3.3v
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[23:35] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/pi17leds.jpg <-- these are drawing about 8mA each..
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[23:37] <scummos> I selected 2mA LEDs for this purpose
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[23:37] <gordonDrogon> I've pulled 35mA once - sort of deliberately by accident...
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[23:38] <gordonDrogon> don't recommend it..
[23:38] <gordonDrogon> :)
[23:38] <scummos> I shorted it a few times
[23:38] <scummos> it just shut down
[23:38] * gordonDrogon nids.
[23:38] <scummos> then rebooted, nothing happened
[23:38] * gordonDrogon nods too.
[23:38] <scummos> ;)
[23:39] <Mensch-Maschine> I somehow feel much more confident about not destroying anything.
[23:39] <megaproxy> http://bedserv.com/stats/
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[23:39] <scummos> I really need more optocouplers, but I'm just too lazy to solder them
[23:39] <gordonDrogon> what are you interfacing to with optos?
[23:40] <scummos> nothing fancy, mostly i2c, SPI stuff and some HF switches
[23:40] <scummos> AD converters, a frequency synthesizer
[23:40] <Mensch-Maschine> Next question. I???ll need a digital display with that, ?? la alarm clock. Any suggestion? How are those called, anyway?
[23:40] <gordonDrogon> I've never bothered with opto isolators. don't see the point for simple stuff like motors & relays..
[23:40] <gordonDrogon> digital displays :)
[23:41] <gordonDrogon> look for 2x16 character displays.
[23:41] <scummos> gordonDrogon: well it is nice to have if you test your board and a short-circuit doesn't destroy your computer ;)
[23:41] <scummos> the main reason I have them was that I had some really old logic chips which only accepted 5V as high input.
[23:41] <scummos> so I needed an external power supply
[23:41] <gordonDrogon> ok
[23:42] <TAFB> oh boy, Pi toys arrived... gonna try and install em on the Pi, might need some help. I'll scream if I do :)
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[23:42] <scummos> but they will be replaced by this fancy thing soon-ish
[23:42] <scummos> http://i.imgur.com/n0zhc.png
[23:42] <gordonDrogon> scream away - I'll be in bed :)
[23:42] <atmosx> anyone installed a digital signage system on a Pi?
[23:42] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: Noooo! I'll need a linux expert, to keep my data safe! :(
[23:43] <gordonDrogon> my internet connection is crowbarred right now. youtube upload shafting just about everything.
[23:43] <TAFB> dang
[23:43] <megaproxy> TAFB, !
[23:43] <scummos> (yes, that's logic tracks routed below RF decoupling capacitors)
[23:43] <gordonDrogon> Firefox can't find the server at i.imgur.com.
[23:43] <scummos> ;D
[23:43] <megaproxy> the pi status page keeps 500 erroring
[23:43] <TAFB> ok ok, I'll try it myself. If I lose data, I'll blame it on you
[23:43] <rymate1234> yay got despotify working
[23:43] <gordonDrogon> *sigh*
[23:43] <TAFB> megaproxy: sup?
[23:43] <scummos> really. works for me
[23:44] <scummos> just imgur.com/n0zhc.png works for me too
[23:44] <gordonDrogon> 7 minutes to go..
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[23:44] <gordonDrogon> yea, it's my internet connection.
[23:44] <gordonDrogon> udp dns lookups are timing out.
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[23:44] <gordonDrogon> because my system is uploading to youtube.
[23:44] <rymate1234> hao do I play a playlist
[23:44] <Mensch-Maschine> Problem with 2x16 displays is that I have bad eyesight, and obviously don???t wear glasses in bed. So I???d like to go with this kind of stuff: http://www.227volts.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/big-alarm-clock.jpg
[23:44] <gordonDrogon> and I've no traffic shaping on ipv6..
[23:44] <scummos> gordonDrogon: 23.23.110.81/n0zhc.png ;D
[23:44] <TAFB> megaproxy: back in a jiffy, gotta unpack the new Pi gear and get er set up :)
[23:45] <megaproxy> is farnel the best place to order from n ow?
[23:45] <scummos> megaproxy: probably
[23:45] <gordonDrogon> scummos, tha'ts somewehat intetrsting... what is it?
[23:45] <scummos> megaproxy: those are called seven-segment displays
[23:46] <Mensch-Maschine> Yep, just found that out.
[23:46] <gordonDrogon> Mensch-Maschine, is that nixie tubes?
[23:46] <scummos> gordonDrogon: it's a delay line. I will attach coax cables of different lengths to the feeds in the bottom.
[23:46] <gordonDrogon> scummos, ok.
[23:46] <scummos> gordonDrogon: then those can be turned on (signal goes through the cable) or off (signal goes the short way in the top)
[23:46] <scummos> and thus you can delay a HF signal by ~5 to 150ns, in 5ns steps
[23:46] <scummos> raspberry-pi-controlled
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[23:47] <gordonDrogon> ok. this is some radio thing, I guess?
[23:47] <scummos> yes, for a radio interferometer
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[23:47] <gordonDrogon> 4 minutes until normal internet access i resumed..
[23:47] <scummos> ;)
[23:47] <Mensch-Maschine> gordonDrogon: That would be awesome, but I???ll go with 7-segment display first.
[23:48] <scummos> basically there's two antennas and by delaying one of the signals, you can point the "beam" of those two antennas in a specific direction.
[23:48] <scummos> so by toggling the switches, I can align the telescope
[23:48] <scummos> theoretically.
[23:48] <Mensch-Maschine> (by the way, any french here? Where do you usually order?)
[23:48] <gordonDrogon> Mensch-Maschine, I didn't see that link, but driving 7-segs is not too hard.
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[23:49] <scummos> Mensch-Maschine: you should order a 7-segment controller too, otherwise you will need 8 or so GPIO pins per letter
[23:49] <gordonDrogon> scummos, right. I'm working for a company developing some software steerable antennae as part of their thing...
[23:49] <scummos> oh cool!
[23:49] <gordonDrogon> Mensch-Maschine, you can use shift register to drive 7-segment displays.
[23:49] <scummos> they probably don't have switchable coax cables? ;)
[23:49] <gordonDrogon> Mensch-Maschine, see what I mean about lots of different answers :)
[23:49] <megaproxy> is there anyway to use a old laptop screen as a pi screen?
[23:49] <gordonDrogon> scummos, it's in the millimeter range, so no..
[23:50] <scummos> megaproxy: difficult, at least.
[23:50] <megaproxy> poop
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[23:50] <megaproxy> any way to make a pitop?
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[23:50] <megaproxy> without that motorolla thing
[23:50] <scummos> gordonDrogon: hm, would work there too, wouldn't it?
[23:51] <gordonDrogon> scummos, I've really no idea - these are about 6 inches square..
[23:51] <gordonDrogon> or less.
[23:51] <gordonDrogon> and I have my internet back. bad old youtube!
[23:51] <scummos> :))
[23:51] <gordonDrogon> I read 227 volts in the URL and thought nixie tubes..
[23:51] <scummos> the real pros do this by just putting a really good ADC there
[23:52] <gordonDrogon> software radio?
[23:52] <gordonDrogon> now the google engines process my video...
[23:53] <scummos> gordonDrogon: in this case it's for astronomy but yes, that's basically the same thing I think
[23:53] <scummos> the frequency is a bit lower for SDR tough
[23:53] <gordonDrogon> not really something I'm into though - I just do their sysadmin, but I've worked with them on/off for the past 10 years.
[23:53] <gordonDrogon> they have a 1GB/sec full duplex wireless data system... (amongst other stuff!)
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[23:54] <scummos> cool ;D
[23:54] <scummos> ah no, I just read that SDR is a general word
[23:54] <scummos> it's just related to HF signal processing in software
[23:55] <gordonDrogon> ok
[23:55] <gordonDrogon> watching my vid. now. 45 minutes upload for a 6.5 minute HD video )-:
[23:55] <scummos> :))
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