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IRC Log for 2012-12-19

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[0:00] <axion> and i love it
[0:00] <rymate1234> bparker, 4?
[0:00] <Essobi> rev1 256s
[0:00] <bparker> tried different distros, kernels, firmware etc.
[0:00] <bparker> nothing helps
[0:00] <Essobi> 3 of them
[0:00] <bparker> rymate1234: yes
[0:00] <rymate1234> why 4
[0:00] <Essobi> perhaps mallied has a build problem?
[0:00] <rymate1234> lol
[0:00] <bparker> why not?
[0:00] <pksato> same kb, mouse?
[0:00] <rymate1234> idk
[0:00] <bparker> nope, different ones
[0:00] <pksato> same network?
[0:00] <bparker> or none at all
[0:00] <bparker> different networks too.
[0:00] <bparker> even with no usb plugged in, ethernet stops working
[0:01] <Essobi> .... sounds like the version of distro you're using.
[0:01] <bparker> rpi foundation says the usb driver is really buggy itself
[0:01] <Essobi> or power
[0:01] <Essobi> :D
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[0:01] <bparker> I've tried 3 different ones
[0:01] <pksato> My rpi run for little time.
[0:01] <axion> or agressive config.txt
[0:01] <Essobi> Hmm.
[0:01] <bparker> and I've tried stock voltage/frequency, overclocking, underclocking, etc etc
[0:01] <Essobi> Once I got everything stabilized, I had mine up for a week easy.
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[0:01] <Essobi> With NFS.
[0:02] <axion> i also run from an SSD...maybe why i dont experience this...idk
[0:02] <pksato> bparker: you need to send these units to some lab to testing.
[0:02] <Essobi> axion: PI-MP.
[0:02] <Essobi> ;)
[0:03] <axion> sdcard = bad on my pi. already bought 5
[0:03] <axion> 6th is still alive
[0:03] <bparker> pksato: but with the foundation saying it's a known problem, how would that help?
[0:03] <pksato> known problem?
[0:03] <bparker> they say both the usb controller itself is poorly designed, AND the driver is buggy
[0:03] <bparker> pksato: yep
[0:03] <pksato> source?
[0:03] <bparker> sec
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[0:03] <bparker> like, it depends on the timing of the OS, so if it's under load, it's more easily triggered.
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[0:04] <bparker> http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/08/24/2228251/serious-problems-with-usb-and-ethernet-on-the-raspberry-pi
[0:04] <pksato> In some heave network traffic, ethernet controler hangs.
[0:04] <bparker> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=23544
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[0:05] <pksato> need to reduce througput.
[0:05] <axion> compile your kernel and use a different IO scheduler perhaps
[0:05] <bparker> axion: that's not a solution
[0:05] <axion> cfq or noop is alright
[0:05] * axion shrugs
[0:05] <bparker> the driver should not freak out under any conditions
[0:05] <bparker> period
[0:05] <axion> works for me (tm)
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[0:07] <bparker> https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:3ndikeHBn5EJ:www.element14.com/community/message/64061+&cd=9&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&lr=lang_en%7Clang_ja
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[0:07] <Essobi> Cores are bad, M'kay?
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[0:09] <axion> anyway if you really want a decent arm computer, get an nitrogen6x. if budget is tight get an mk808 or ug802+ and put linux on it
[0:09] <axion> rpi is an entry level learning device
[0:09] <axion> not a personal computer
[0:09] <bparker> I found the pico-sam9g45 for $69USD and it even has mini-PCIe slot for wifi/cellular
[0:10] <bparker> since I really wanted something I could use cellular modem with
[0:10] <axion> mk808 is dual core up to 1.6ghz, with quad core gpu capable of 2160p or realtime transcoding
[0:10] <axion> for $50
[0:10] <axion> http://www.geekbuying.com/item/MK808-Dual-Core-Android-4-1-Jelly-Bean-TV-BOX-Rockchip-RK3066-Cortex-A9-Mini-PC-stick-307415.html
[0:10] <Datalink> well if you guys don't want your Rpis, may I buy them off ya :P I'm in the market for at least 1 but not at e-bay prices... x.X
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[0:11] <bparker> axion: what about mini-PCIe slot?
[0:11] <axion> get a nitrogen6x or odroid-x then
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[0:12] <bparker> I didn't see that slot on either of them
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[0:12] <bparker> but they are too expensive
[0:12] <bparker> the pico is 69, nitrogen is 199
[0:12] <bparker> odoid is like 129
[0:12] <axion> sorry just n6x
[0:12] <bparker> odroidx*
[0:13] <bparker> I also read lots of problems with mk808
[0:13] <bparker> like wifi dropping and random rebooting
[0:13] <axion> no way...thats mk802
[0:13] <axion> mk808 is GREAT
[0:14] <bparker> here's one review talking about it http://www.amazon.com/review/R3KJA4263CYE5W/ref=cm_cr_dp_title/192-4702205-2632526?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B009OX22B4&nodeID=172282&store=electronics
[0:14] <axion> first revision ug802 had that issue too....mk808 was revised with 2 internal antenna
[0:14] <axion> i dont read amazon reviews lol
[0:14] <cjdavies> okay got omxplayer from git working, currently playing a 1080 file (though monitor doesn't have speakers so I can't check if sound actually works) - how do I prevent blinking cursor in top left of screen though?
[0:14] <cjdavies> very distracting!
[0:15] <pksato> lenzzzzz: boot acrh here.
[0:15] <axion> i go by experience and the arm community
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[0:17] <cjdavies> wait, alsa is experimental still?
[0:17] <Essobi> :D
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[0:18] <bparker> < > Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (NEW) --->
[0:18] <axion> cjdavies: http://sprunge.us/ZAaE
[0:18] <bparker> doesn't say experimental for me...
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[0:20] <lenzzzzz> pksato, on arch channel guys helped me
[0:20] <lenzzzzz> Linux alarmpi 3.2.27-17-ARCH+ #1 PREEMPT Thu Dec 6 17:29:12 UTC 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
[0:20] <lenzzzzz> sorry
[0:21] <cjdavies> thanks axion
[0:21] <lenzzzzz> for enabling iptables we need to do that
[0:21] <cjdavies> bparker: old link I was watching
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[0:21] <lenzzzzz> systemctl start iptables.service
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[0:21] <axion> ive been using arch since 0.1 10 years ago...what a great gnu/linux system
[0:21] <lenzzzzz> and it will load module
[0:22] <lenzzzzz> pksato, thank you for help!
[0:24] <cjdavies> damn, so I'll need to have sudo installed to play video properly...
[0:24] <pksato> no need root access to play video
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[0:25] <cjdavies> but to make the cursor disappear
[0:25] <cjdavies> check the script that axion sprunged
[0:26] <cjdavies> if you just run omxplayer it leaves the cursor of the tty blinking in the corner
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[0:26] <pksato> ah...
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[0:28] <pksato> dont need root to use setterm in own tty.
[0:28] <axion> i know
[0:28] <axion> its easier for newbs
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[0:28] <axion> and you can configure sudo to allow only certain programs.
[0:29] <axion> best bet would be defining a udev rule for tty access for your user though'
[0:29] <cjdavies> hm, of course omxplayer is so basic it doesn't have subtitle support anyway
[0:29] <cjdavies> I'm guessing that xbian/rapsbimc/whateve do?
[0:30] <pksato> cjdavies: A alternative version of omxplayer what support subtitles (.srt like)
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[0:31] <cjdavies> nah I kinda want stylized .ass & complex stuff
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[0:32] <axion> xbmc then, sorry
[0:33] <pksato> https://github.com/torarin/omxplayer/downloads
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[0:45] <cjdavies> why is it that both of my monitors have SD card readers but both are inaccessible the way I have the monitors physically set up :/
[0:45] <cjdavies> 1stworldproblem
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[1:03] <SuperLag> well.. that sucks
[1:03] <SuperLag> plugging a USB device into the rPi shouldn't make it reboot
[1:03] <SuperLag> that's the second time
[1:03] <rikkib> It is a known issue
[1:04] <SuperLag> first time, it was just a wifi adapter, second time it was a USB hub with a SD reader and SD card plugged in
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[1:04] <rikkib> A powered hub?
[1:04] <SuperLag> no
[1:04] <rikkib> There is your issue
[1:05] <rikkib> RPi requires powered hubs
[1:05] <SuperLag> Okay. What about the wifi adapter?
[1:05] <SuperLag> plugging that in directly to the rPi made it reboot
[1:05] <SuperLag> Edimax EW-7811Un
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[1:06] <rikkib> Same issue. They draw to much current when plugged in
[1:06] <pksato> SuperLag: wifi dongles draw lot power.
[1:07] <SuperLag> Okay. I need to shut down and move it to where my powered hub is, then. brb.
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[1:07] <pksato> need to use a powered hub. Or, power rpi from GPIO.
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[1:15] <SuperLag> :/
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[1:15] <SuperLag> it's plugged in to the powered hub now... but I don't see any indication that the new SD card is getting plugged in
[1:15] <SuperLag> nothing posting to syslog or messages
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[1:16] <SuperLag> or dmesg
[1:17] <SuperLag> I take that back.
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[1:18] <SuperLag> Okay... that confuses me even more.
[1:18] <SuperLag> it's showing up as /dev/sda
[1:18] <SuperLag> if it's the first SCSI device, then what is the card that the running OS is on?
[1:18] <SuperLag> I figured *that* would be sda
[1:18] <SuperLag> that's why I ignored it
[1:19] <SuperLag> /dev/root
[1:20] <SuperLag> and I can pull that up in cfdisk, but it shows up as free space
[1:20] <SuperLag> I'm really confused. :)
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[1:22] <pksato> root is on a sdcard reader, /dev/mmcblk0p2
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[1:30] <SuperLag> Okay. I'm trying to move from the slower 8GB card that I installed on, to the faster 32GB card that I have plugged in to the USB hub.
[1:30] <SuperLag> I'd like to avoid a reinstall, if I can.
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[1:43] <SuperLag> should I be able to dd stuff over, and have it just work?
[1:44] <rikkib> SuperLag, You can try but not the way I do it.
[1:44] <SuperLag> rikkib: how would you do it?
[1:44] <rikkib> I just mount the cards and copy the contents to the x86 linux box
[1:45] <rikkib> dd image into your new card
[1:45] <rikkib> mount it and delete all
[1:46] <SuperLag> it sounds like you're contradicting yourself
[1:46] <rikkib> copy your old card onto the new card
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[1:46] <SuperLag> you say you wouldn't dd it, but then you say that's what you do?
[1:46] <rikkib> dd image is a distro the same as you use
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[1:46] <rikkib> so dd distro to new card
[1:46] <rikkib> delete all files
[1:47] <rikkib> copy
[1:47] <rikkib> do you have a linux box?
[1:47] <rikkib> mac or pc
[1:47] <SuperLag> other than a VM, no
[1:47] <SuperLag> I'm on a Mac
[1:47] <rikkib> Well you can't do what I do
[1:48] <SuperLag> my Linux box is at work
[1:48] <SuperLag> but there, I don't have HDMI if I want to plug a display in
[1:48] <rikkib> I do what I do because it is actually the quickest and easiest way to keep a known good image.
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[1:50] <rikkib> DVI-D to HDMI is just an adapter
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[1:51] <rikkib> I use my Philips LCD like this
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[1:52] <rikkib> But essentially you need a Linux box to help develop with the RPi
[1:53] <SuperLag> I'm looking for the right hardware to use for a Linux box at home. I want something with a very small footprint, but that can have a ton of RAM
[1:53] <SuperLag> I have a Dell Optiplex 745 at work, and it's small. I'd be nice if an OEM had something like that...
[1:53] <mgottschlag> btw, afaik dding from one card to the other should always work
[1:53] <rikkib> My personal opinion is the RPi is only good as a net appliance in conjunction with a linux x86 server. Or a few other custom uses that I am investigating.
[1:54] <mgottschlag> the partition just has to be resized afterwards if more space shall be available
[1:54] <SuperLag> mgottschlag: do you need to be booted from the destination card, to use resize2fs?
[1:55] <mgottschlag> no neccesarily
[1:55] <mgottschlag> you can always use fdisk/resize2fs manually
[1:55] <SuperLag> Okay. The dd copy is done. And there's a lot of extra space on the destination card.
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[1:56] <rikkib> or boot from it and run raspi-config
[1:58] <SuperLag> Okay. Here goes.
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[2:01] <SuperLag> excellent
[2:01] <SuperLag> all good
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[2:06] <SuperLag> time to move it back to the closet
[2:07] <SuperLag> rikkib: what you said about the wifi adapter having to be plugged in to a powered hub... because it seems like I've seen pictures with people having it plugged in directly?
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[2:09] <tanuva> plugging directly works fine for me with a 512mb-pi
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[2:11] <adeel> hmmm....this can't be good on boot....'too many open files'
[2:11] <SuperLag> ouch
[2:11] <SuperLag> tanuva: that's the one I have, as well
[2:12] <SuperLag> Okay. Time to move it. brb.
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[2:15] <SuperLag> I'm surprised at how much faster a "Class 10" card makes this thing.
[2:16] <dr_willis> aonyone else been compareing Openelec, raspbmc and that xbimc (or what ever it was called) ;)
[2:16] <dr_willis> SuperLag: yea. ive been meaning to test that also. Been having an issue with one Pi. but i dont think its the sd card.
[2:17] <SuperLag> So... the repos have Python 3.2 as the latest version. If I want 3.3, do I need to compile it by source?
[2:17] <dr_willis> But i think my problem was due to a power supply. It seems to be working now.
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[2:18] <SuperLag> and if I get it and compile it from source, what's the best way to ensure I don't step on anything important? put it in /usr/local and move /usr/local to the front of my $PATH?
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[2:19] <dr_willis> I think with source you sould set it to go to /opt/ or /usr/local
[2:20] <dr_willis> /usr/local/bin may allready be in your default path
[2:20] <SuperLag> right, but if you move it up, that will get read before /usr/bin, where most stuff gets put
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[2:21] <dr_willis> how ive seen other disrtos do it.. a script calling python would use 3.2 but if it needed 3.3 it would specifically call python3.3 (or was that 2.7 and 3.x)
[2:21] <dr_willis> actually it was with 2.x and 3.x :)
[2:22] <dr_willis> whats in 3.3 that you need so badly?
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[2:27] <dr_willis> well.. raspbmc on Pi #1 seems to be working well as a UPNP server serving to a Xbain on pi #2 .. Or i may have it backwards
[2:27] <dr_willis> I need a 3rd Pi to put Openelec on. ;)
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[2:33] <cyclick2> dr_willis, why not a third sd card?
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[2:46] <axion> rikkib: can you post the link to your raspi pic again?
[2:46] <dr_willis> cyclick2: i want to test what ones can see each others upnp servers. for one thing. and compare them playingthe same file :) from a upnp server.
[2:47] <dr_willis> Ok.. this is goofy. ;) got me a $8 remote from amazon that emulates a keyboard.. but.. somehow my Samsung TV remote also works with the ir reciever.. i grabbed the wrong remote and it just worked.. well arrowing around, play/pause does..
[2:47] <dr_willis> What a nice suprise
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[2:50] <dr_willis> I dont even see a brand name on it. :) 'Wireless USB PC remote Contol Mouse for PC' - # x0002G50QH - I may have to order a 2nd for the other Room
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[2:55] <Coburn> 389 users
[2:55] <Coburn> interesting...
[2:55] <Coburn> Got a question for ya.
[2:55] <Coburn> When it comes to 2D Hardware Acceleration, does the R-Pi offload that work to the GPU?
[2:56] <Coburn> Because I was thinking of using the R-Pi as a mini-desktop, and thought if it can smoothly scroll a webpage, then it's a good idea.
[2:57] <TAFB> Coburn: Not in xwindows, not yet anyway. They are working on GPU accelleration for it.
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[3:01] * CelticTurnip tries to stay awake at work...
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[3:05] * TAFB slaps CelticTurnip around a bit with a large trout
[3:05] <TAFB> that should keep ya awake
[3:06] * CelticTurnip falls over
[3:07] <CelticTurnip> gotta love pulling source to install, and it downloads in bytes per second...
[3:07] * CelticTurnip cries
[3:07] <Coburn> Heh
[3:08] <CelticTurnip> everyone log off the internet for a minute so I can get my files
[3:08] <Coburn> As soon as Xorg gets 2D acceleration, I'd use it as a office PC
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[3:08] <Coburn> I guess I shouldn't ask for an ETA?
[3:08] <TAFB> Coburn: Nice :) There's some pretty monster little boards like the Pi, if you just wanted a super mini computer.
[3:08] <adeel> CelticTurnip: you're assuming the slowdown is due to oversubscription...what if the source just was on a 56k modem?
[3:08] <Coburn> Yeah, I saw the hackberry
[3:09] <Coburn> it's chinese and allwinner is crap
[3:09] <CelticTurnip> adeel: quite possible :)
[3:09] <Coburn> frankly
[3:09] <adeel> Coburn: depending on the budget, the beagleboard maybe a better fit
[3:09] <TAFB> http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G135341370451&tab_idx=1#
[3:09] <Coburn> Or pandaboard. Hard to get them into AU... though
[3:09] <Coburn> I have seen the ODROID-X
[3:09] <rikkib> axion, http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/
[3:10] <rikkib> All RPi images are n that dir
[3:10] <Coburn> > ULTRA COMPACT 1.7GHz QUAD-CORE BOARD
[3:10] <Coburn> > $89
[3:10] <adeel> stupid hd really had to start failing now?
[3:10] <Coburn> Holy **** (pardon my french)
[3:10] <TAFB> adeel: You mean your SD?
[3:10] <Coburn> I'm gonna buy one
[3:11] <TAFB> Coburn: My friend has one, runs android on it, thing just RIPS.
[3:11] <dr_willis> Coburn: the pi seems a little sluggish to use as a desktop from what ive worked with it.
[3:11] <adeel> TAFB: nope, my 8 disk zfs array is about to lose a disk, pre-empting my pi fun
[3:11] <CelticTurnip> **** is French now :)
[3:11] <adeel> Coburn: what's this?
[3:11] <dr_willis> Coburn: using raspian
[3:11] <TAFB> adeel: that sux :(
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[3:11] <adeel> TAFB: yeah, thankfully i had a spare drive i can put in...just need to install parted real quick
[3:11] <TAFB> adeel: http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G135341370451&tab_idx=1#
[3:11] <Coburn> Although, Android is for tablets/phones
[3:11] <Coburn> I can't see Android on the office PC
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[3:12] <TAFB> it runs Ubuntu as well
[3:12] <CelticTurnip> why would ya :P
[3:12] <adeel> TAFB: wow that's pretty crazy...i'd buy it in a heartbeat if it had gigE
[3:12] <TAFB> adeel: Does it not have gige? I'm sure it does.
[3:12] <axion> rikkib: awesome the stm32 one
[3:12] <adeel> TAFB: nope, 10/100
[3:13] <adeel> TAFB: or if it supported pxe
[3:13] <adeel> or PoE
[3:13] <TAFB> adeel: oh, must have been one of their other models i was looking at.
[3:13] <axion> rikkib: i show it to everyone who asks what you can connect to an rpi
[3:13] <axion> excuse the bandwidth :p
[3:13] <TAFB> PoE on the Pi would be handy. I might wire it in.
[3:13] <axion> 2.1mb wow
[3:14] <adeel> TAFB: well, full PoE requires active components, which the pi doesn't have
[3:14] <adeel> passive poe might work
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[3:14] <rikkib> I wanna hook cam on one side of door (peep hole really) and stm32v as display.
[3:14] <TAFB> adeel: I've never ever had an issue with home brew Passive PoE ;)
[3:14] <rikkib> But first solar powered cam with wireless
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[3:15] <adeel> hmmm..that openni + opencv + plc seems like a cool demo
[3:15] <rikkib> I have a paying job for one
[3:15] <TAFB> rikkib: congrats!
[3:15] <axion> awesome
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[3:18] <rikkib> http://122.61.65.146/motion/42-20121219150055.swf
[3:18] <rikkib> My RPi cam at the PC recycle company
[3:19] <adeel> haha nice
[3:19] <rikkib> The boys are busy loading a container today.
[3:20] <rikkib> If you have time you could watch the whole days work... The images will be deleted at 7pm or so each day
[3:20] <CelticTurnip> best video ever
[3:20] * CelticTurnip watches all day
[3:21] <CelticTurnip> bah! I've seen this episode :(
[3:21] <rikkib> Damn
[3:21] <rikkib> Reruns
[3:22] <applegekko> rikai_: its a 30 second loop
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[3:22] <CelticTurnip> I like the dude in the cap... he's my favourite!
[3:22] <rikkib> motion cap
[3:22] <rikkib> Each time someone moves it makes a new movie
[3:22] <rikkib> out of the single images in the dir
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[3:24] <adeel> 14.6G scanned out of 9.20T at 130M/s, 20h36m to go ....heh
[3:25] <rikkib> Most of the staff are Pacific ethnicity... Ether Maori or Polynesian.
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[3:52] <Coburn> I wonder how well 2D Acceleration for Mali GPU on that thing works
[3:52] <Coburn> You know, the quad core box for $89
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[4:00] <rikkib> Wed Dec 19 16:00:05 NZDT 2012 Time to make another RPi go.
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[4:46] <rikkib> It lives...
[4:46] <Coburn> Does anyone know any good software to give the R-Pi GPU a good run in 3D models?
[4:48] <rikkib> I expect a browser plugin may create a great deal of havoc...
[4:57] <ccssnet> Coburn: good question
[4:58] <ccssnet> anything that throughly tests opengl would be a good start
[5:00] <TAFB> Ok, I think my status page is finally finished!! I got everything working and laid out exactly like I want. Performance is smokin. Can't wait to move the rest of my sites to it and put her under some real stress! :) http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[5:01] <Coburn> Hell, let it rip
[5:01] <TAFB> :)
[5:01] <Coburn> I'll overclock the Pi to 1Ghz
[5:01] <Coburn> Here goes.
[5:01] <TAFB> use my config.txt at the bottom of the page, works sweet.
[5:01] <TAFB> DON'T USE RASPI-CONFIG
[5:01] <Coburn> RASPI-CONFIG is overrated
[5:01] <TAFB> lol
[5:02] <Coburn> Would it work with Berryboot?
[5:02] <TAFB> it kept curropting my sd card :( axion made my that 1ghz setup, rock solid.
[5:02] <TAFB> I would assume so Coburn, just keep your gpu_mem setting and don't use mine
[5:02] <TAFB> mine is freaky
[5:02] <Coburn> Hmm ok
[5:04] <Coburn> Stop if you see smoke
[5:04] <Coburn> Also, can I get a copy of your status page, please, TAFB?
[5:04] <TAFB> Coburn: source is at the bottom of the page.
[5:04] <Coburn> Or does it use a lot of addons like sensors?
[5:04] <CelticTurnip> lol - why have min speeds and then use force_turbo=1 :-/
[5:04] <TAFB> read the readme in there.
[5:04] <TAFB> CelticTurnip: I'm experimenting between forced overclock and dynamic.
[5:05] <Coburn> cpufreq ondemand is best.
[5:05] <CelticTurnip> and you're also telling people to use your config, not mentioning that it could void their warranty :P
[5:05] <Coburn> > Warranty Bit: Good
[5:05] <TAFB> CelticTurnip: won't void warranty at all
[5:05] <TAFB> why would you think that?
[5:05] <TAFB> i'm within voltage, temp, spec, everything
[5:06] <ccssnet> Corburn: or maybe try some of the mesa default tests like: mesa demo's
[5:06] <CelticTurnip> you are... and you're telling other people to use your config too, different chips, different cases, different ambient temps
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[5:06] <CelticTurnip> only an idiot would use someone elses config and not test their own hardware first :P
[5:06] <TAFB> CelticTurnip: That config.txt protects from overheating thx ;) nothing could damage the Pi in that config, and nothing trips the warranty flag.
[5:07] <CelticTurnip> I think you might want to read up on the way config.txt works first
[5:07] <CelticTurnip> because at the moment you're talking absolute crap :)
[5:07] <TAFB> Coburn: In stock form, that status page loads all of those values at page view/load. It takes about 3 seconds and murders the Pi at 100% load for those 3 seconds. If nobody goes to the page, it doesn't use anything from the Pi. Only does stuff when it's viewed.
[5:08] <orkid> Has anyone used xbmc on something other than openelec? Sometimes there is no video for example.
[5:08] <CelticTurnip> anyway each to their own, but seriously Coburn I recommend you test your own Pi yourself... because not all chips are the same, not all RAM can run at 500MHz out of the box
[5:08] <orkid> Anyone experience this?
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[5:13] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: I recommend you read this http://elinux.org/RPiconfig#Overclocking - especially the part about voiding your warranty, setting force_turbo=1 and over volting... because IMO you're already out of luck :P
[5:13] <CelticTurnip> maybe your script doesn't report warranty void properly ;)
[5:13] <CelticTurnip> anyway...
[5:14] <CelticTurnip> good luck with it
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[5:15] <TAFB> CelticTurnip: Raspi-config on 1ghz over volts to 1.35v. But warranty void, they mean going over that, and/or raising the temp limit (which I've LOWERED it) :)
[5:16] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: don't take this the wrong way but your skills with UNIX are debatable at best, instead of suggesting people randomly use stuff that works for you you should explain how things work... randomly copying and pasting stuff from IRC is dumb at best
[5:16] <Coburn> Ok
[5:16] <Coburn> I took your config, TAFB
[5:17] <Coburn> Changed the SDRAM from 500Mhz to 450Mhz
[5:17] <Coburn> And I'm getting 996.17 BogoMIPS
[5:17] <TAFB> CelticTurnip: the config was built for me by axoin. He's had a ton of people use it, I've had a ton of people use it, no ieeus so far.
[5:17] <CelticTurnip> Coburn: if you have Samsung RAM you can try 500... Samsung overclocks very well
[5:17] <Coburn> Does that mean it's doing roughly 1Ghz?
[5:17] <TAFB> Coburn: WOW! That's 42% faster than stock pi!
[5:17] <CelticTurnip> Coburn: yes
[5:17] <TAFB> Coburn: one sec for commands to run
[5:17] <Coburn> Let's geek it out to 1.2Ghz folks!
[5:18] <CelticTurnip> :)
[5:18] <Coburn> Or 1.4Ghz
[5:18] <TAFB> Coburn: to check clock speed: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
[5:18] <Coburn> Dual Core power for the price of one core
[5:18] <TAFB> Coburn: to check CPU temperature: /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[5:18] <Coburn> CelticTurnip: looking at the CPU...
[5:18] <TAFB> Coburn: to check CPU voltage: /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_volts
[5:18] <Coburn> SAMSUNG is on the top of the CPU
[5:18] <Coburn> So SAMSUNG RAM?
[5:18] <CelticTurnip> yeo
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[5:19] <Coburn> Alright, let me check my other 512MB model
[5:19] <Coburn> I got 2
[5:19] <CelticTurnip> give 500 a crack I've been running 500 for months on Samsung on both the 256 and 512er
[5:19] <Coburn> My 256MB one is Samsung
[5:20] <Coburn> Yup, other R-Pi is Samsung too
[5:20] <Coburn> You little ripper
[5:21] <TAFB> Coburn: run those commands, report clock speed, temp and voltage :)
[5:21] <Coburn> Shall we try 500Mhz?
[5:21] <CelticTurnip> I'm in Australia too, so our ambient temps suck - better benchmark for the rest of the world ;)
[5:21] <Coburn> Ok
[5:21] <TAFB> Coburn: give er ;)
[5:21] <Coburn> Well hang on
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[5:21] * PiBot sets mode +v yofel_
[5:21] <Coburn> DDR2 ram runs at 400Mhz, 533Mhz and 667Mhz if I remember
[5:21] <Coburn> CelticTurnip: where abouts are you? I'm in Boonah
[5:22] <Coburn> erm
[5:22] <Coburn> QLD
[5:22] <CelticTurnip> Melbourne
[5:22] <piney> does anyone know if i can connect the pi's uart tx and rx together to confirm it's working right?
[5:22] <CelticTurnip> don't worry about what RAM runs at... the Pi's RAM runs at 400, you're overclocking from that point... not to a new speed :P
[5:22] <Coburn> piney: explosion
[5:23] <CelticTurnip> but if 533 makes you feel better let us know how you go :)
[5:23] <piney> that's why i asked. thanks :)
[5:23] <Coburn> Well, I'm thinking of desktop DDR speeds, CelticTurnip
[5:24] <CelticTurnip> I know :)
[5:24] <Coburn> Since I build desktops for people
[5:24] <CelticTurnip> just go for it 1600 :P
[5:24] <Coburn> Let's try 533Mhz, but first, let me see what the Pi says
[5:24] <Coburn> lol
[5:24] <piney> Coburn, how about led's between each pin and ground with another device connected?
[5:24] <piney> with a resistor of course
[5:25] <Coburn> piney: that might work. Not an expert in UART stuff
[5:25] <Coburn> I have worked with DreamPlugs using UART I/O for debug console
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[5:25] <piney> kk thanks. i'll research that more
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[5:27] * PiBot sets mode +v jxriddle
[5:32] <Coburn> okay where was I
[5:32] <Coburn> oh yes
[5:32] <TAFB> 533?!?!
[5:32] <Coburn> Working on it
[5:32] <TAFB> lol
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[5:32] * PiBot sets mode +v Quietlyawesome94
[5:32] <TAFB> don't forget those commands I gave ya
[5:34] <Coburn> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
[5:34] <Coburn> 400000
[5:34] <Coburn> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[5:34] <Coburn> temp=51.9'C
[5:34] <Coburn> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_volts
[5:34] <Coburn> volt=1.20V
[5:35] <Coburn> There you go, TAFB and CelticTurnip
[5:35] <TAFB> Coburn: she's in downclocked/sleep mode. you gotta work her hard. Fire up xwindows and run the commands again.
[5:35] <Coburn> Sounds erotic lol
[5:35] <TAFB> lol
[5:35] * Coburn slaps himself
[5:35] <Coburn> Sorry, mind wandered
[5:35] <TAFB> that, or go: force_turbo=1
[5:36] <Coburn> Hm... Well ok
[5:36] <Coburn> actually!
[5:36] <Coburn> while true ....
[5:38] <Coburn> Here we go!
[5:38] <Coburn> Ready, TAFB?
[5:38] <TAFB> give er
[5:38] <TAFB> you running X, or force turbo?
[5:38] * Coburn works her hard
[5:38] <TAFB> ahh
[5:38] <TAFB> lol
[5:38] <Coburn> running 'y'
[5:38] <Coburn> wait
[5:38] <Coburn> running 'yes'
[5:38] <TAFB> yes?
[5:38] <Coburn> It spews out ys
[5:38] <CelticTurnip> cat /dev/urandom that box ;)
[5:39] <TAFB> yikes to cat /dev/urandom!
[5:39] <Coburn> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
[5:39] <Coburn> 400000
[5:39] <Coburn> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_volts
[5:39] <Coburn> volt=1.20V
[5:39] <Coburn> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[5:39] <Coburn> temp=53.0'C
[5:39] <TAFB> not workin her hard enuff
[5:39] <Coburn> Still sitting at 400Mhz while CPU is 100%
[5:39] <Coburn> Hmm...
[5:39] <Coburn> okay, time for urandom
[5:40] <TAFB> lol
[5:40] <Coburn> CelticTurnip: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null ?
[5:40] <CelticTurnip> sure
[5:40] <Coburn> Doing jack ****.
[5:40] <Coburn> Still 400Mhz
[5:41] <Coburn> She's sleepin'
[5:41] <TAFB> pfffft. force turbo time
[5:41] <Coburn> You got it
[5:41] <Coburn> Good thing I have a replacement R-Pi on hand... hehehe
[5:43] <Coburn> She's burnin' my finger!
[5:43] <TAFB> nice
[5:43] <Coburn> HOW IS THAT NICE
[5:44] <TAFB> she runs hot, keep your fingers out of her and she'll be fine.
[5:44] <CelticTurnip> install cowsay and be done with it :)
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[5:45] * cccy_RegeaneWolf is now known as cccyRegeaneWolfe
[5:45] <Coburn> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq [1000000]
[5:45] <Coburn> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_volts [ volt=1.35V ]
[5:45] <Coburn> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp [ temp=47.6'C ] <- this is with my AA battery powered fan cooling it
[5:45] <TAFB> oh baby, that's more like it.
[5:46] <Coburn> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp [ temp=50.3'C ] <- without cooling, but desk fan blowing air on my face and it being underneath it
[5:46] <Coburn> Around 52*C
[5:47] <TAFB> it starts to get flakey around 70c, if it gets up to there, figure out a better cooling option ;)
[5:48] <Coburn> around 55*C now
[5:48] <Coburn> 53.9*C -> 54.5*C
[5:48] <TAFB> is that under 100% load?
[5:48] <TAFB> you got quake3 on there?
[5:49] <Coburn> idle, no quake :(
[5:49] <TAFB> apt get cpuburn or whatever, give er a test.
[5:49] <Coburn> if I had a 3D Model Viewer for linux, I could run it and load up a complex 3D model
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[5:58] <Coburn> btw
[5:58] <Coburn> Just brought one of those Quad Core boxes
[5:58] <Coburn> 1.7Ghz Quad Core... me jelly
[5:58] <TAFB> nice, the Pi on steroids?
[5:58] <Coburn> The $89 one
[5:58] <Coburn> Be warned
[5:58] <TAFB> sweet
[5:59] <Coburn> If you order one, don't have any quotes in your name
[5:59] <Coburn> the form doesn't add slashes to the quotes
[5:59] <Coburn> for example, my company name I entered is Coburn's Domain
[5:59] <Coburn> it gave a query error complete with the query and DB structure saying invalid syntax
[6:00] <Coburn> Meaning, I could potientally do ' DROP DATABASE and be done with it
[6:00] <Coburn> by add slashes, I mean like
[6:00] <Coburn> ' becomes \'
[6:00] <Coburn> Anyway, back to R-Pi land
[6:00] <Coburn> We're getting around 56.2*C
[6:01] <TAFB> nice
[6:01] <TAFB> keep your feet warm
[6:01] <Coburn> Too hot
[6:01] <TAFB> pfft
[6:01] <TAFB> 70 is too hot
[6:01] <TAFB> 56 is just gettin started
[6:01] <Coburn> anyone want me to do that $89 PC vs the R-Pi ?
[6:01] <Coburn> Place your bets
[6:01] <TAFB> Coburn: no
[6:01] <Coburn> Who's the daddy
[6:01] <TAFB> Coburn: I will buy one then.
[6:02] <TAFB> USB3 on those bad boys?
[6:02] <Coburn> Only USB2
[6:02] <TAFB> SATA?
[6:02] <Coburn> Uh...
[6:02] <CelticTurnip> okay my $600 Soekris SBC versus a Pi :P
[6:02] <Coburn> wait
[6:02] <Coburn> CuBox gets you eSATA
[6:02] <CelticTurnip> Pi wins - it does video, noobs like them some video :P
[6:02] <axion> so do others Coburn
[6:02] <TAFB> CuBox?
[6:02] <Coburn> what SBC specs?
[6:02] <Coburn> http://solid-run.com
[6:03] <Coburn> 800Mhz ARM7
[6:03] <axion> in particular nitrogen6x or goflex come to mind
[6:03] <TAFB> ahhh, $140.
[6:03] <Coburn> GPU kicks ass, I'm also working with oene
[6:03] <Coburn> one*
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[6:03] * PiBot sets mode +v Datalink|Elsewhe
[6:04] <CelticTurnip> http://soekris.com/products/net6501.html <3
[6:04] <Coburn> Rebooting the R-Pi to sleepy 400Mhz mode
[6:04] <Coburn> Do you think we could underclock to 33Mhz?
[6:04] <Coburn> Or is that too low
[6:04] <axion> 400 is the lowest
[6:04] <pksato> to revome all text on console when play video. setterm -blank force; omxplayer video ; setterm blank poke
[6:05] <TAFB> axion: he's running his ram at 533!
[6:05] <axion> heh
[6:05] <Coburn> Not yet
[6:05] <TAFB> but it flagged his warranty bit when he set force_turbo=0 :(
[6:05] <Coburn> stuff the warranty
[6:05] <axion> thats expected
[6:06] <axion> there are several ways to void it
[6:06] <TAFB> axion: I've set mine to force_turbo, says I'm still good for warranty ;)
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[6:06] <axion> that line is irrelevant
[6:06] <TAFB> http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[6:06] <TAFB> lol
[6:06] <axion> its other lines that matter whether you have that set or not
[6:06] <Coburn> What's your revision in /proc/cpuinfo, TAFB?
[6:06] <Coburn> oh
[6:06] <Coburn> Damn you
[6:06] <TAFB> Revision : 000f
[6:07] <Coburn> Never trusting you with your configs
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[6:07] * PiBot sets mode +v asd
[6:07] <axion> instead you should read the guide
[6:07] <CelticTurnip> TAFB's revision code is broken
[6:07] <TAFB> lol
[6:07] <CelticTurnip> I told you guys what would happen, don't copy and paste :)
[6:07] * Coburn throws that R-Pi outta sight and unpacks a new, virgin (pardon the language) R-Pi
[6:07] <TAFB> virgin is ok, un molested Pi
[6:08] * Coburn hears the cry of the other R-Pi hit the ground
[6:08] <ackthet> you should never
[6:08] <ackthet> ever
[6:08] <ackthet> run a command or set a config you dont understand
[6:08] <axion> Warning: Warranty will be voided if:
[6:08] <axion> (force_turbo || current_limit_override || temp_limit>85) && over_voltage>0
[6:08] <Coburn> trial by fire
[6:08] <ackthet> no
[6:08] <ackthet> never trial by far
[6:08] <ackthet> if you trial by fire, use a VM
[6:09] <CelticTurnip> or matches :P
[6:09] <TAFB> axion: I added warnings to my config.txt :)
[6:09] * CelticTurnip runs
[6:09] <Coburn> ???('???`???)???
[6:09] <Coburn> ^ that was me shrugging, if you get garbage, you don't have UTF8 IRC support
[6:09] <CelticTurnip> looks good here
[6:09] <CelticTurnip> FreeBSD hell yeahs :P
[6:10] <Coburn> also, that SBC CelticTurnip
[6:10] <Coburn> ew Intel Atom
[6:10] <CelticTurnip> Coburn: certified for OpenBSD... that's all I care about
[6:10] <CelticTurnip> works perfect
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[6:11] * PiBot sets mode +v alexkane
[6:11] <CelticTurnip> if you don't need it, you don't need it :)
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[6:12] <Coburn> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq [400000]
[6:12] <Coburn> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_volts [volt=1.20V]
[6:12] <Coburn> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp [temp=51.9'C]
[6:12] <Coburn> There we go. All better now.
[6:12] <crenn> Anyone hooked up a webcam to their RPi?
[6:13] <Coburn> nope
[6:13] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: most likely void? dude that config does exactly what I said it does - IT VOIDS WARRANTIES... no most likely :P
[6:13] <pksato> Coburn: USB webcam, yes.
[6:13] <Coburn> nope
[6:13] * Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky
[6:13] <crenn> pksato: What did you have to do to get it to work?
[6:13] <Coburn> v4l methinks
[6:14] <CelticTurnip> worst thing about it, keeping axion's name on it :P
[6:14] <CelticTurnip> remove that... it's your config now :P
[6:14] <Mentos> any EE guys in here know if giving the Raspberry Pi 5V & 2.1A will fry it?
[6:14] <Coburn> Uh
[6:14] <Coburn> No
[6:14] <Coburn> It shouldn't...
[6:14] <Mentos> What numbers would?
[6:14] <pksato> crenn: if you have a UVC (driver free) webcam , just plug and use some V4L program.
[6:14] <Coburn> Most devices will only take what they need
[6:15] <Mentos> <-complete EE newb
[6:15] <Coburn> Mentos: What is it? USB Plug Pack or what?
[6:15] <Coburn> Or over pings?
[6:15] <crenn> [ 3069.853268] uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device Microsoft\xffffffc2\xffffffae\xff ffffae LifeCam VX-7000 (045e:0723)
[6:15] <Mentos> yea its plug pack
[6:15] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojFZ__4t7ck&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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[6:15] <Mentos> its a myCharge usb recharger
[6:15] <SpeedEvil> oops
[6:15] <crenn> Think it's a UVC webcam
[6:15] <pksato> now, use it.
[6:16] <crenn> Trying to, but I'm getting a blank image using fswebcam
[6:16] <SpeedEvil> Mentos: if you sit on a table that can support 300kg, does it make you weigh 300kg?
[6:16] <crenn> And errors
[6:16] <crenn> Corrupt JPEG data: 43221 extraneous bytes before marker 0xd8
[6:16] <crenn> gd-jpeg: JPEG library reports unrecoverable error: Invalid JPEG file structure:
[6:16] <Mentos> SpeedEvil: Not following your metaphor
[6:16] <Coburn> Mentos: one way to find out. Take a deep breath, plug it in and turn the switch on. If your Raspberry Pi gives up the ghost, she's gone to hardware heaven to be reborn into another R-Pi
[6:16] <SpeedEvil> Mentos: same with current. the device only draws what current it needs if the voltage is right
[6:17] <pksato> ohms law
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[6:18] <Mentos> hmm well my battery pack is only poweringg the ACT/PWR lights and flashing a bit so i don't think theres enough current
[6:18] <crenn> pksato: What program are you using with your webcam?
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[6:18] * PiBot sets mode +v axion
[6:19] <Mentos> what smells like toast?
[6:19] <pksato> try luvcview
[6:19] <SpeedEvil> Mentos: napalm
[6:19] <SpeedEvil> I love the smell of toast in the morning.
[6:20] <SpeedEvil> smells like... marmalade.
[6:20] <Mentos> Yea the battery pack won't power the pi
[6:20] <SpeedEvil> Mentos: do you own a voktmwter?
[6:20] <pksato> no?
[6:20] <Mentos> SpeedEvil: nah
[6:20] <crenn> Can that save a frame to JPG?
[6:21] <Mentos> but its about time i take some intro to EE classes online
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[6:21] <pksato> 4 1.2NiMH in series can power R-Pi for some minutes.
[6:21] * ReggieUK (~ReggieUK@5aca5630.bb.sky.com) Quit ()
[6:22] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DIGITAL-LCD-MULTIMETER-VOLTMETER-AMMETER-VOLT-OHM-METER-VOLTAGE-TESTER-/280899235964?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item4166e6307c
[6:22] <SpeedEvil> or similar
[6:22] <SpeedEvil> will be quite adequate as a beginning mm
[6:22] <SpeedEvil> dmm
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[6:23] * Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk
[6:23] <pksato> crenn: yes. luvcview does, and video too.
[6:23] <Mentos> SpeedEvil: Thanks for the link
[6:24] * Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk
[6:24] <SpeedEvil> no experience with the seller
[6:25] <pksato> dmm can be buyed on "wallmart" like store.
[6:25] <Mentos> hmm after a few tries looks like i can get the pi to boot on a myCharger pack
[6:26] <Mentos> so cool
[6:26] <TAFB> dun ferget to check your tp1-tp2 voltage!
[6:27] <Mentos> TAFB: whys that
[6:27] <crenn> pksato: Righto, will try that
[6:27] <Poison[BLX]> Mentos: likely unstable or low voltage out of it, if it takes more than one try.
[6:27] <TAFB> Mentos: Cause if you're near the limit, she won't be stable.
[6:28] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Digital-LCD-Multimeter-Voltmeter-Ammeter-AC-DC-Meter-OHM-Circuit-Tester-/350663716601?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item51a52faef9 has better feedback
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[6:28] <Mentos> are the side effects dangerous? or just slowness
[6:28] <TAFB> might corrupt your sd card requiring a re-flash of the image, but no permenant damage
[6:28] <Mentos> k
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[6:30] <Mentos> anyone know how long 3000 mAh should last a Pi?
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[6:33] * PiBot sets mode +v axion
[6:35] <SpeedEvil> Mentos: of the order of 7 hours
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[6:35] <Mentos> nice
[6:35] <SpeedEvil> you need to disconnect the battery pack
[6:35] <Mentos> when?
[6:35] <SpeedEvil> if you leave it connected once the pi no longer works, it may damage the batteries
[6:36] <Mentos> ah
[6:36] <Mentos> will do thanks
[6:36] <SpeedEvil> wait
[6:37] <SpeedEvil> what sort of batteries?
[6:37] * ukgamer is now known as ukgamer|away
[6:37] <Mentos> this thing http://www.mycharge.com/
[6:38] <Mentos> this is my exact model http://www.mychargepower.com/tablet-extended-batteries/portable-power-bank-6000.html
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[6:38] <Mentos> Battery: 6000mAh Lithium Polymer
[6:39] <Coburn> bootin' with 533Mhz DDR2 RAM folks
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[6:39] * PiBot sets mode +v CelticTurnip
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[6:41] * PiBot sets mode +v rvalles
[6:42] <Coburn> SpeedEvil: some battery packs have automatic shutoff. Mine does and it's a $50 5000mAh made in china
[6:45] <Mentos> wish i had a good reason to run my raspberry pi on a battery pack but alas its just going to be a media center
[6:46] <Coburn> Mentos: I ran a R-Pi off a 12V battery
[6:46] <Coburn> no smoke
[6:46] <Coburn> 12V to 5V using downstep 3amp adapter (actually a lighting adaptor)
[6:47] <Mentos> i wonder if you could make a ghetto cell phone
[6:47] <Mentos> out of raspberry pi
[6:47] <Mentos> using voip of course
[6:48] <Coburn> you can
[6:48] <Coburn> I want to see Raspberry Droid
[6:48] <Coburn> I'd use that
[6:48] <Coburn> opensource hardware
[6:48] <Mentos> would come down to the price of a good usb modem?
[6:50] <Poison[BLX]> and, of course, a mic.
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[6:51] <Poison[BLX]> speaking of nearly the opposite direction of sound, anyone here know of a multi-channel usb sound card that'll work on the pi?
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[6:51] <SpeedEvil> Mentos: ignore the above comments then
[6:51] <SpeedEvil> Mentos: I thought you said you were using 4*as
[6:52] <Mentos> SpeedEvil: k
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[7:13] <Mentos> https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-44oRSZpUa8A/UNFakd6c8PI/AAAAAAAAAUE/TYAdcPhUxwg/s744/IMG_20121219_011116.jpg
[7:14] <Mentos> thats a raspberry pi hooked up to one of those myChargers that i took apart, trying to figure out how to put them in one tight box together
[7:14] <Mentos> https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rc2nI7iH-2k/UNFatG0MERI/AAAAAAAAAUY/ankJw8V4ohY/s744/IMG_20121219_011156.jpg
[7:16] <bparker> I saw some rpi's for sale at my local electronics store
[7:16] <bparker> they had 4 of them I think
[7:16] <TAFB> added auto refresh to my page (ONLY the data), and a stop button :) woot http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[7:16] <ParkerR_> Mentos, Nice :D
[7:16] <TAFB> bparker! wow, sweet. $35?
[7:17] <bparker> lol no, it was part of a MAKE starter kit
[7:17] <bparker> so like $125
[7:17] <TAFB> bparker: ahh, they wouldn't sell it seperatly?
[7:17] <bparker> nope
[7:17] <bparker> TAFB: doesn't load for me
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[7:19] <bparker> sweet case, where'd you get it?
[7:19] <Poison[BLX]> TAFB: Nice page! And randomly, that case... is it worth the $70? I've been considering it for when my pi migrates into its more permanent home in my car.
[7:19] <TAFB> bparker: the page? probably have blocked port 8000
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[7:19] <TAFB> it'll be on 80 soon
[7:19] <Poison[BLX]> bparker: http://www.raspberry-pi-case.com/ it's this.
[7:20] <TAFB> Poison: yep, $70 case :( http://www.ebay.ca/itm/110984616925
[7:20] <bparker> can anyone else load it?
[7:20] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Umm its not laoding
[7:20] <ParkerR_> *loading
[7:20] <ParkerR_> Mis typed a port forward maybe
[7:21] <ParkerR_> *Mistyped
[7:21] <Poison[BLX]> hrm, worked for me a minute ago.
[7:22] <Poison[BLX]> and again now
[7:22] <TAFB> it worked for the other peeps :) lol try http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info:8000
[7:22] <TAFB> uh oph
[7:22] <TAFB> oh
[7:22] <TAFB> dns problems
[7:22] <ParkerR_> Hmm
[7:22] <TAFB> :(
[7:22] <ParkerR_> Both are not loading :(
[7:22] <TAFB> my modem usually does this right before it reboots :(
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[7:29] <TAFB> my internet is looking pretty flakey :(
[7:29] <TAFB> should be workin now.
[7:30] <bjp> whats the /proc file that has the onboard temp in it?
[7:30] <bparker> cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
[7:30] <bparker> not aware of a /proc one
[7:31] <bparker> or /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp works too
[7:31] <bjp> ahh /sys, i couldn't remember which one
[7:31] <bjp> thanks
[7:31] <bparker> np
[7:31] <TAFB> for current clock speed: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
[7:31] <TAFB> and current cpu voltage: /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_volts
[7:31] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Loaded
[7:31] <TAFB> finally, lol
[7:32] <TAFB> see my fancy autorefresher? :)
[7:32] <Poison[BLX]> it's nice, although it has a habit of refreshing as soon as the bottom edge of the page loads for me
[7:32] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Umm the forced refresh is a little jarring. Page moves a little bit on reload
[7:32] <TAFB> well, fancy when my internet is workin ;)
[7:33] <bparker> TAFB: fancy? pssh, you should use AJAX and not make the page ever actually refresh :p
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[7:34] <bparker> even fancier, you could have the ajax request generate a checksum of the page content first, and the reply sends one also, so you don't have to re-fetch the same data over and over if it doesn't change
[7:34] <bparker> lol
[7:36] <^5> I was looking at getting a DVD to play on my raspi, can anyone confirm that I need the MPEG-2 license to do this, if I'm using this method http://raspi.tv/2012/watch-encrypted-dvd-on-raspberry-pi-by-streaming-to-omxplayer
[7:36] <^5> aka streaming to omxplayer from mplayer
[7:37] <ParkerR_> Neat way of doing it
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[7:38] <bparker> yep
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[7:39] <ParkerR_> ^5, Most likely will
[7:39] <bparker> is there an easy (like ready-made example code) way to get video back from the hardware decoder and straight into an OpenGL texture for 3D manipulation/playback?
[7:39] <ParkerR_> Most if not all DVDs use mpeg2 as the video codec
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[7:39] <TAFB> ok, modem rebooted :)
[7:40] <bparker> ParkerR_: I'm sure mplayer has a software decoder, but doubtful that it's fast enough for the pi unless it can do some buffering or something
[7:40] <ParkerR_> Yeah that was my thought
[7:40] <bparker> even more doubtful the decoder has optimized assembly for ARM like it does for x86
[7:41] <ParkerR_> ^5, try it before to see if it needs the license or not
[7:41] <ParkerR_> Worse case you get no video
[7:41] <Mentos> anyone know if magnets can mess with solid state hds?
[7:41] <ParkerR_> *Worst
[7:41] <bparker> they shouldn't
[7:41] <bparker> >Mentos
[7:41] <bparker> unless it's strong enough to rip components off the PCB of course
[7:41] <ParkerR_> Mentos, Solid state is flash memory. Not affected by magnets like normal HDDs
[7:42] <ParkerR_> Since normal HDDs use magnetizim to operate
[7:42] <Mentos> yea wasn't sure though cuz you could have said "the bit are stored as blahs" which are affected by magnets
[7:42] <ParkerR_> *magnetism
[7:42] <Mentos> anyone know if we've got any case makers in this channel
[7:42] <ParkerR_> Mentos, Who has said that?
[7:43] <Mentos> ParkerR_: no one was just like a hypothetical
[7:43] <bparker> ParkerR_: I thought it was just the fact a strong enough magnet can interrupt the needle and or break it
[7:43] <bparker> nevermind, the data is actually stored magnetically, duh
[7:43] <bparker> I forgot
[7:43] <ParkerR_> Well the needle is slightly magnetizing parts of the disk. I'm pretty sure its how that works
[7:43] <ParkerR_> Haha
[7:43] <ParkerR_> Yeah
[7:44] <ParkerR_> bparker, Must be like me. Can't think straight this late at night.
[7:44] <Mentos> well I'm off to bed
[7:44] <ParkerR_> A weakness of the Parkers XD
[7:44] <Mentos> thanks for the help
[7:44] <bparker> I'm trying to debug stupid fpga issues ><
[7:44] <ParkerR_> No problem
[7:44] <SpeedEvil> not a needle. an electrically driven solenoid
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[7:45] <bparker> http://pastie.org/private/m0q4cqky4i8g2swrodsww
[7:45] * bparker bangs head
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[7:45] <Poison[BLX]> bparker: Also a strong magnet vs a spinning disk can completely burn up the stepper motor, makes a pleasant droning noise as it dies. As for an SSD, as long as it doesn't induce an electric charge somewhere inappropriate, wrong direction, etc a magnet shouldn't hurt anything. It'd take quite a magnet, and a bit of motion, I think, to do that.
[7:45] <SpeedEvil> also, magnets can saturate inductors in power supplies, and kill devices
[7:45] <SpeedEvil> I've killed a monitor like that
[7:46] <SpeedEvil> when I pushed it against a metal plate on which was stuck a magnet
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[7:46] <bparker> an LCD monitor or CRT?
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[7:46] <SpeedEvil> magnet touched back of case, which happened to be over backlight inverter
[7:46] <SpeedEvil> saturated inductor, blew fuse in inverter
[7:47] <SpeedEvil> LCD
[7:47] <SpeedEvil> in laptop
[7:47] <bparker> ah
[7:47] <ParkerR_> bparker, Ahh I see you are a more advanced Parker. (I have yet to get that much into hardware and software)
[7:48] <bparker> sadly I'm often called Peter Parker
[7:49] <ParkerR_> Same.
[7:49] <bparker> ParkerR_: what are you hoping to accomplish here?
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[7:49] <ParkerR_> Not sure really. Just starting out at college. Computer science major
[7:49] <bparker> ah
[7:50] <bparker> do they still make you learn really outdated programming languages?
[7:50] <ParkerR_> Java
[7:50] * bparker shudders
[7:50] <ParkerR_> (Really headdesk programming languages)
[7:50] <ParkerR_> XD
[7:50] <ParkerR_> They offer C later on
[7:50] <ParkerR_> I might try to pickup some python
[7:50] <bparker> every time I hear java I think of this: https://ws.apache.org/xmlrpc/apidocs/org/apache/xmlrpc/server/RequestProcessorFactoryFactory.html?rel=html
[7:51] <ParkerR_> bparker, :O
[7:51] <ParkerR_> Heh
[7:51] <bparker> the verboseness is just too much for me
[7:51] <ParkerR_> The fact I can make some sense of this amazes me
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[8:00] <Coburn> Wow, I'm leaving this R-Pi idle
[8:00] <Coburn> and it's going around 47 - 51*C
[8:00] <TAFB> yikes! http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[8:00] <TAFB> under load ;)
[8:01] <Coburn> 29.3*C
[8:01] <Coburn> I'm jealous
[8:01] <TAFB> hehe :)
[8:01] <Coburn> Damn you and your cold weather
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[8:02] <TAFB> it's that monster aluminum case. the entire thing is like a heatsink, it's crazy
[8:02] <Coburn> ...
[8:02] * Coburn wants a case now
[8:02] <TAFB> how's the auto refresh work for ya?
[8:02] <TAFB> i just added it, has a few glitches with firefox
[8:02] <TAFB> but I'm workin on em
[8:02] <Coburn> Firefox is working fine
[8:03] <TAFB> ohh, nice
[8:03] <Coburn> using Pale Moon 15.0.2 x64
[8:03] <TAFB> if you click stop, does it stop the countdown?
[8:03] <Coburn> tes
[8:03] <DarkTherapy> yeah
[8:03] <Coburn> yes*
[8:03] <TAFB> hmm, wonder why that dun work on my firefox :(
[8:03] <DarkTherapy> you could have it refresh every 10 seconds so it's less annoying
[8:04] <TAFB> yes, that could be a good plan... une momento
[8:04] <TAFB> maybe I could have you type in a box how fast you want it to refresh? :)
[8:05] <DarkTherapy> defeats the object lol
[8:05] <TAFB> rofl\
[8:05] <DarkTherapy> easier to press refresh
[8:05] <TAFB> okies, 10 seconds it should be
[8:06] <TAFB> I'm going to ditch the 600kb animated raspberry too, that thing is a pig to load :)
[8:07] <Coburn> 30secs please
[8:07] <DarkTherapy> haha
[8:07] <TAFB> for the refresh, that's soooo slo
[8:07] <DarkTherapy> it's not just me then
[8:07] <TAFB> k. 30. done.
[8:08] <Coburn> well, saves requests
[8:08] <Coburn> and bandwidth
[8:08] <Coburn> on both ends
[8:08] <Coburn> :0
[8:08] <TAFB> lol
[8:08] <Coburn> :) *
[8:08] <DarkTherapy> TAFB: where are you?
[8:09] <TAFB> near toronto, ontario, canada
[8:09] <DarkTherapy> ah ok
[8:09] <TAFB> why?
[8:09] <DarkTherapy> just wondered
[8:09] <TAFB> lol
[8:09] <DarkTherapy> and Coburn, where are you?
[8:11] <DarkTherapy> Coburn: ^^
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[8:14] <Coburn> Dying from the heat, Queensland, Australia
[8:14] <DarkTherapy> right
[8:15] <DarkTherapy> it's the opposite here in the UK
[8:15] <Coburn> and I wish I was in the UK
[8:15] <DarkTherapy> I wish I was in Aus
[8:16] <TAFB> it snowed here today :(
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[8:16] <Poison[BLX]> and... it's somewhere between here a couple hours west of Washington, DC. Incidentally, totally wish I was in Aus moreso than the UK. Nothing against the UK, just... I'm not built for cold.
[8:17] <Poison[BLX]> and *much* faster page load this time around, TAFB.
[8:17] <TAFB> yep, 600kb animated gif gone, 20k png replaced it
[8:18] <Poison[BLX]> quite a noticeable difference. What confounds me is the lac k of that caching on my end to speed it up on reloads before.
[8:18] <TAFB> I'm going to see if I can get it to leave the old temp gauge behind and just draw over top of it, so it doesn't blink out and refresh like that.
[8:19] <TAFB> I noticed on my end, it never caches animated gifs :(
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[8:21] <Coburn> url again, TAFB?
[8:21] <TAFB> http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[8:21] <Coburn> righto
[8:22] <TAFB> workin good, load fast? :)
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[8:24] <Poison[BLX]> TAFB: works great here.
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[8:25] <TAFB> nice :) not bad for hosting on my home cable modem with horrible upload speed :( http://www.speedtest.net/result/2376827100.png
[8:25] <TAFB> at least my ping is good, and if it weren't for the crazy download speed, I'd switch in a heartbeat :)
[8:26] <TAFB> I tried teksavvy, they had 8mbps upload, but they block port 80 and 25 :(
[8:26] <Coburn> working good.
[8:26] <TAFB> Coburn: nice :) thanks for testin
[8:26] <Coburn> I'm going to clone it now. :D
[8:26] * Coburn whips up his Notepad++
[8:26] <TAFB> it's php, you can't ;)
[8:27] <Coburn> Lies
[8:28] <Poison[BLX]> TAFB: aside from the 'source code here' codebase linked at the bottom, that I suspect has a good chunk of it, and the client side javascript-induced refresh that's easily snagged?
[8:29] <TAFB> yep, you can snag the javascript refresh easy, and the source zip has pretty much everything in it, except for my super trick page caching technology (the source version dynamically fills the page on every view, takes 3 seconds and 100% pi cpu :( )
[8:30] <Poison[BLX]> yeah... it's all the calls to execute outside commands blocking for process spawn, execute, output, and close in series for every block.
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[8:30] <TAFB> Poison[BLX]: yeah. like 100 shell_exec calls, and it seems they take priority over everything :(
[8:31] <Coburn> TAFB: can you supply me a ZIP with the tools you use to get the temperature?
[8:31] <Coburn> You know, the bins under /opt
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[8:32] <TAFB> Poison[BLX]: How i'm doing it now, is I'm running a funky "watch" command that actually triggers PHP from the command line, and either watch or php command line make it play very nice. Only uses 13% cpu if I have it on FLOOD constant loop update the static html page, or like 1.5% cpu if it does it every 10 seconds :) works amazing, and now visitors put almost NO load on the Pi.
[8:32] <TAFB> I've load tested it to 160 page loads per second, of that status page :)
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[8:33] <TAFB> Coburn: If you look at the index.php file included in the zip, it's got ALL of the /opt commands, etc. The one to get the temp I use is: /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[8:33] <Coburn> Yeah, but I need the bin files
[8:34] <Coburn> I'm running BerryWebserver and I don't have access to the actual binaries
[8:34] <TAFB> bin files?
[8:34] <Coburn> you know, the apps that run and report stuff back
[8:34] <TAFB> they come built into wheezy?
[8:34] <Poison[BLX]> TAFB: nice!
[8:34] <TAFB> i'm a linux noob, if you need me to copy them out, you'll have to tell me how
[8:35] * Coburn facepalms
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[8:35] <Poison[BLX]> I was just thinking of far more convoluted approaches to doing that, and likely less efficiently.
[8:36] <TAFB> Poison[BLX]: Thanks :) I can't believe how well it works. Cached fully dynamic web page. The idea came to me in a dream last night. My bubble was almost burst when someone told me about eaccellerator and other PHP dynamic accellerators.
[8:36] <Coburn> TAFB: copy this file /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd to your www root
[8:36] <Coburn> so I can nab it
[8:36] <TAFB> I figured I'd try them, save me some coding, but they DON'T WORK!
[8:36] <Coburn> eaccelerator = crap
[8:36] <TAFB> they check to see if index.php changes (the actual file, not the dynamic content), and of course in my case, it doesn't! lol.
[8:37] <TAFB> So I had to roll my own solution, and it works super flawless for my application, especially cause it spits out HTML instead of PHP saving tons of processing power in Pancake
[8:37] <TAFB> Coburn: one moment for the files.
[8:37] <Poison[BLX]> yeah, there are better php caching mechanisms, but most aren't meant for this style php page, and nothing's really made with 'run a hundered system binaries and print the output of each' in mind.
[8:38] <Coburn> could always make it so it runs a cronjob every so often
[8:38] <Coburn> and then use file_get_contents() on the files that the cronjob spews out
[8:38] <Coburn> so you'd have data_cpu.txt
[8:38] <Coburn> data_procs.txt
[8:38] <Coburn> etc
[8:39] <Poison[BLX]> and most web 'accelerators' are built with high throughput, load balanced, big iron web server stacks in mind, saving on database queries as much or more than php processing itself.
[8:39] <TAFB> Coburn: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/vcgencmd.zip
[8:39] <Crenn-NAS> Gah! Just can't get this webcam to work with my RPi
[8:40] <TAFB> Coburn: I tried to setup a cronjob, but the quickest I could schedule it was every minute! :(
[8:40] <TAFB> "watch" is basically doing the same thing as crontab :) and I loaded it in that local.rc thing, works sweet.
[8:41] * CelticTurnip returns from work
[8:41] <CelticTurnip> evening all
[8:41] <TAFB> CelticTurnip: Sup?
[8:41] <CelticTurnip> brb - swapping from an OpenBSD shell to a FreeBSD one
[8:41] * CelticTurnip (~celt@unaffiliated/celticturnip) Quit (Quit: 'Unix is a computer virus with a user interface.' - The UNIX-HATERS Handbook.)
[8:41] <TAFB> I added auto-refresh to my page, ditched the 600kb animated raspberry and replaced it with a 20k official PNG logo ;)
[8:42] <TAFB> damn, he left, lol
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[8:42] * PiBot sets mode +v CelticTurnip
[8:42] <CelticTurnip> that's better...
[8:42] <TAFB> CelticTurnip: I added auto-refresh to my page, ditched the 600kb animated raspberry and replaced it with a 20k official PNG logo ;)
[8:42] <TAFB> http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[8:43] <Coburn> damn it
[8:43] <CelticTurnip> and TAFB not much just waiting for the end of the working year, or as it's more commonly know tomorrow :)
[8:43] <Coburn> I'm going to need the /opt dir
[8:43] <Coburn> fffuuuuuu
[8:43] <TAFB> okies
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[8:43] <CelticTurnip> what! that 3D raspberry kicked ass
[8:43] <Coburn> needs a blender
[8:43] <TAFB> CelticTurnip: I know :( 600kb though! with auto refresh it was a killer
[8:44] <CelticTurnip> Coburn: what distro are you using?
[8:45] <Coburn> BerryWebServer
[8:45] <CelticTurnip> wtf is that :)
[8:45] * CelticTurnip googles
[8:45] <Coburn> 5MB webserver
[8:45] <TAFB> and it's got php?!
[8:45] <CelticTurnip> nice
[8:45] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: that's nothing to be proud of ;)
[8:46] <TAFB> hahaha
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[8:46] <CelticTurnip> that's crazy though :)
[8:46] <sten_> some OpenMax specialists?
[8:46] <CelticTurnip> the smallest I could ever get a full functional BSD was 32MB, so 5MB is insane :)
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[8:47] <TAFB> I'm not worried about space on my Pi anymore :) should be good for a while.
[8:48] <Poison[BLX]> I miss carrying around tomsrootboot with me for those random moods...
[8:48] <TAFB> Coburn: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/opt.zip
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[8:57] <Coburn> TAFB: Check out my ugly clone. http://59.101.9.58
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[8:59] <Coburn> Did I kill the channel?
[8:59] <Coburn> CelticTurnip?
[8:59] <CelticTurnip> sup
[8:59] <TAFB> i'm here
[8:59] <TAFB> headin to bed soon
[8:59] <TAFB> lemme look
[8:59] <CelticTurnip> I like your page more Coburn, feels more like *NIX :)
[9:00] <TAFB> ewwww *puke*
[9:00] <TAFB> checking data
[9:00] <TAFB> Warranty is void, thanks to TAFB...
[9:00] <TAFB> lol
[9:00] <Coburn> check out the voltages
[9:00] <Coburn> overclocked, yo
[9:00] <TAFB> your "stuff that eats cpu" isn't listed nor sorted by CPU% ;)
[9:01] <Coburn> ...
[9:01] <Coburn> true dat
[9:01] <TAFB> cpu 900v? shouldn't it be 1.2?
[9:01] <TAFB> cause ??F sucks)
[9:01] <TAFB> lol
[9:02] <CelticTurnip> Coburn's an Aussie when we over volt... we OVER VOLT^2
[9:04] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: you install cowsay yet?
[9:04] <TAFB> cowsay?!
[9:04] <CelticTurnip> install...
[9:04] <CelticTurnip> trust me, every *nix box needs it
[9:04] <CelticTurnip> oh and while you're at it
[9:05] <CelticTurnip> sudo apt-get install wtf
[9:05] <CelticTurnip> that's needed too
[9:05] <Coburn> wtf?
[9:05] <TAFB> i dun need be clutterin up my server with that ish
[9:05] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: install!
[9:05] <Coburn> what's cowsay to?
[9:05] <CelticTurnip> _______
[9:05] <CelticTurnip> < dunno >
[9:05] <CelticTurnip> -------
[9:05] <CelticTurnip> \ ^__^
[9:05] <CelticTurnip> \ (oo)\_______
[9:05] <CelticTurnip> (__)\ )\/\
[9:05] <CelticTurnip> ||----w |
[9:05] <CelticTurnip> || ||
[9:05] <CelticTurnip> hell yeahs!
[9:05] <CelticTurnip> :P
[9:05] <TAFB> CelticTurnip: If i haden't have changed my SSH key you coulda just connected into my system with no password and installed it urself!
[9:06] <sten_> hey, i need some openMAX brains here!!!
[9:06] <CelticTurnip> also install sl
[9:06] <CelticTurnip> that's important too
[9:06] <CelticTurnip> it's like ls but heaps better
[9:06] <sten_> sl -l ftw
[9:06] <CelticTurnip> see sten_ knows :)
[9:06] <CelticTurnip> it's the best
[9:06] <sten_> no sl, i need some openMAX here!
[9:07] <CelticTurnip> when I first saw that I thought it said OpenVMS :P
[9:07] <Coburn> Linux mint has cowsay by default
[9:07] <CelticTurnip> as it should
[9:07] <Coburn> sten_: OpenMAX not found, did you mean SoundMAX audio driver?
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[9:08] <sten_> Coburn: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenMAX
[9:08] <sten_> this is the rpi video subsystems api
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[9:09] <RaptorJesus> sigh
[9:09] <RaptorJesus> berryboot is horrible
[9:09] <RaptorJesus> isn't there a way I can dual boot without downloading images I don't want
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[9:10] <Coburn> TAFB: Check it out again. More info.. http://59.101.9.58
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[9:13] <Gr33n3gg> there we go, my code for my nes controller is up on github https://github.com/snacsnoc/nes-keypress
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[9:19] <CelticTurnip>
[9:20] <TAFB> Coburn: lookin better, get that CPU ish workin!
[9:20] <TAFB> want my code?
[9:20] <Coburn> Naw, leave her be
[9:20] <Coburn> she's shy
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[9:29] <TAFB_zzz> Coburn: http://www.pixelbeat.org/cmdline.html#monitor
[9:29] <TAFB_zzz> nite nite.
[9:30] <TAFB_zzz> ps -e -o pcpu,cpu,nice,state,cputime,args --sort pcpu | sed '/^ 0.0 /d'
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[9:49] <RaptorJesus> sooo...... formated SDCH card for raspberry wheezy and it shows like 26mb can't format it back to 29g (32g card)
[9:49] <RaptorJesus> whats the deal with that
[9:49] <TAFB_zzz> you using windows?
[9:49] <RaptorJesus> i see the extra partition
[9:49] <RaptorJesus> ya
[9:49] <RaptorJesus> but can't join it back
[9:49] <TAFB_zzz> you gotta use the super dangerous dos program diskpart to get it all back
[9:49] <RaptorJesus> lol
[9:49] <TAFB_zzz> or fire up a bootable CD like gparted
[9:49] <RaptorJesus> seriously
[9:49] <RaptorJesus> i don't think so
[9:50] <TAFB_zzz> or download the "sd card formatter" and it MIGHT be able to do it.
[9:50] <RaptorJesus> win 7 should be able to do it
[9:50] <RaptorJesus> it sees it
[9:50] <RaptorJesus> i have the sd car formatter
[9:50] <TAFB_zzz> diskpart in win7 can do it
[9:50] <TAFB_zzz> go to the command prompt and run it
[9:50] <RaptorJesus> intresting
[9:50] <RaptorJesus> kinda lame
[9:50] <TAFB_zzz> "list disk" etc
[9:50] <TAFB_zzz> just can't do it with disk management.
[9:50] <TAFB_zzz> it's a bug, you can do it on hard drives, but not usb/SD
[9:51] <RaptorJesus> ya seems odd
[9:51] <TAFB_zzz> try the sd card formatter, about 4 out of 5 times it can wipe it and restore it
[9:51] <RaptorJesus> maybe in win 8 lol
[9:51] <TAFB_zzz> maybe
[9:51] <RaptorJesus> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6GggY4TEYbk
[9:51] <TAFB_zzz> if they even have disk management still
[9:52] <RaptorJesus> :-D
[9:52] <TAFB_zzz> My Pi: http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[9:52] <RaptorJesus> thats awesome TAFB_zzz
[9:52] <TAFB_zzz> thx :)
[9:53] <TAFB_zzz> that page is runnin off the Pi too ;)
[9:53] <wsmsg> that closure was.. bad ASS.... url? TAFB_zzz
[9:54] <TAFB_zzz> case: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/110984616925
[9:54] <TAFB_zzz> it's got heatsink posts that cool the cpu, gpu and voltage regulator, keeps it super chilly.
[9:54] <TAFB_zzz> manufactured out of a solid block of aircraft grade 6061 T6 aluminum :)
[9:54] <TAFB_zzz> fits like a glove.
[9:54] <wsmsg> ty
[9:55] <RaptorJesus> crazy price for that case
[9:55] <wsmsg> oh god damn.. that is one pricy enclosure
[9:55] <TAFB_zzz> yep, twice the price of the Pi! lol
[9:55] <bjp> i tried to power a usb hdd enclosure from the usb ports and my pi died :(
[9:55] <Gr33n3gg> $75?~
[9:55] <TAFB_zzz> bjp: you can fix it
[9:55] <wsmsg> price of 2,5 pi's
[9:55] <bjp> TAFB_zzz: i think i need to find a different way to power the hdd
[9:55] <TAFB_zzz> bjp: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/340/how-much-power-can-be-provided-through-usb
[9:56] <TAFB_zzz> bjp: like this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/eU2tt.jpg
[9:56] <TAFB_zzz> that's how I running my Pi, I can pull 3 amps from my USB, power two 2.5" HDD's ;)
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[9:56] <Gr33n3gg> that picture looks as if it was taken with a potato
[9:56] <bjp> whats powering the pi though
[9:57] <TAFB_zzz> bjp: 10 amp 5v supply ;) lol.
[9:57] <RaptorJesus> my pi doesn't have wires like that I must have the newer version ;-)
[9:57] <bjp> i was using a 2A
[9:57] <bjp> lol
[9:57] <TAFB_zzz> bjp: Also make sure you are using a GOOD QUALITY microusb cable, MINIMUM 24 gauge power wires: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5458&seq=1&format=2
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[9:58] <TAFB_zzz> wanna see what an awesome power adapter does with a crappy microUSB cable, and NOTHING plugged into the Pi? :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNDeQMNCOiw
[9:59] <Gr33n3gg> backlit LCD on that multimeter?
[9:59] <TAFB_zzz> yeppers :)
[9:59] <Gr33n3gg> nice
[9:59] <TAFB_zzz> got a variable load tester too
[9:59] <bjp> dang i shoulda got soem of those cables
[9:59] <TAFB_zzz> I can pull 3 amps out of my USB ports, or 6.5 amps if I back power, but then the USB cables start to melt :)
[9:59] <bjp> i was lookin at cables but they rarelly give any details
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[10:00] <TAFB_zzz> bjp: Just look for extra thick ones if you can, or are stiffer to bend, if they don't say :(
[10:00] <TAFB_zzz> the Pi puts a HUGE draw on the cable.
[10:01] <TAFB_zzz> my Pi is powering my SSD right from the ports, although SSD draws a little less power than a normal drive. http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-17-RaspberryPi_with_external_drive.jpg
[10:04] <bjp> this hdd is labeled 700ma
[10:04] <bjp> not sure how accurate that is
[10:04] <TAFB_zzz> yikes!
[10:04] <TAFB_zzz> lol
[10:04] <TAFB_zzz> the entire Pi, over clocked playing Quake3 doesn't even draw 700ma ;)
[10:04] <bjp> the enclosure i was testing it in is powered by 2 usb plug :)
[10:04] <TAFB_zzz> you'll for sure need to solder those bridge wires under the pi, in that pic I showed you
[10:05] <TAFB_zzz> the pi still can only put out 100ma per port
[10:05] <bjp> oh
[10:05] <TAFB_zzz> so doubled up you're only 200 ;)
[10:05] <TAFB_zzz> BUT, if you have an extra USB power supply, run one of the Y cables to it, and the other to the Pi! it'll work
[10:05] <bjp> i don't atm
[10:05] <TAFB_zzz> so the drive is getting power from the wall adapter, but data to the Pi ;)
[10:06] <TAFB_zzz> ohhh. that could be a solution if you didn't want to solder your Pi or get a powered USB hub
[10:06] <bjp> but i could try that if i can find a cable for it
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[10:06] <TAFB_zzz> if you get a powered USB hub and don't mind that clutter, that'll power your hard drive with the doube cable, plus give you some extra ports.
[10:06] <TAFB_zzz> and remember, if you have weird problems with your keyboard or mouse, try it plugged right into the Pi, not the hub
[10:07] <bjp> i haven't even tried a kb/mouse yet
[10:07] <bjp> everythings been over ssh so far
[10:08] <TAFB_zzz> they'll prolly work fine in the Pi, but some have issues with usb hubs :)
[10:08] <TAFB_zzz> what you gonna use your Pi for?
[10:09] <bjp> just playing with it now, but i was thinking about sticking it in a little enclosure with this hdd, so i can put videos on the hdd and carry it around as a sort of portable video box
[10:09] <bjp> just plug in power and hdmi to monitor
[10:09] <TAFB_zzz> nice. It plays (non-dvd) movies awesome.
[10:09] <bjp> yea i've tested that a little bit
[10:10] <TAFB_zzz> sweet. gonna run xbmc on it?
[10:10] <bjp> now just need to figure out the storage :)
[10:10] <TAFB_zzz> or just oxmplayer or whatever.
[10:10] <bjp> probably xbmc
[10:10] <TAFB_zzz> nice
[10:10] <TAFB_zzz> peeps love it.
[10:10] <bjp> yea i like it
[10:10] <bjp> tested it once, streamed a video over samba
[10:10] <bjp> nice and smooth
[10:10] <Gr33n3gg> I wouldn't mind getting xbmc on my pi, but it runs just fine on my apple tv 2
[10:11] <TAFB_zzz> check out the config.txt at the bottom of my status page for some sweet overclocking settings, makes the Pi 42% faster, just rips in XBMC
[10:11] <TAFB_zzz> http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[10:11] <bjp> does it effect the power usage?
[10:11] <bjp> or i guess, how much
[10:11] <bjp> heh
[10:12] <TAFB_zzz> yep, about an extra 200ma (extra volts to ram and cpu)
[10:12] <TAFB_zzz> and it needs stable, clean power.
[10:12] <bjp> the cpu isn't throttled is it?
[10:12] <bjp> yea, my biggest issue has been thinking about a decent power supply
[10:13] <TAFB_zzz> if you have a volt meter, check your TP1 to TP2 voltage like so: http://elinux.org/images/d/d1/RPI_Test_Points.JPG
[10:13] <bjp> if i do the box+hdd, was thinking about wiring something to the gpio pins
[10:13] <TAFB_zzz> bjp: I unthrottle my CPU and voided my warranty ;)
[10:13] <bjp> yea i've got about 4.9V with nothingg but network plugged in
[10:13] <TAFB_zzz> force_turbo=0
[10:13] <TAFB_zzz> 4.9 is pretty good
[10:13] <bjp> thats on the adafruit ps
[10:13] <bjp> heh
[10:13] <TAFB_zzz> 4.85 and over with network, HDMI and mouse/keyboard is what you want.
[10:14] <bjp> its way better than my HTC adapter
[10:14] <bjp> why did you unthrottle it?
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[10:15] <TAFB_zzz> because it down clocks when idle, and it would cause a lag with my web server, when you hit a page, the Pi would go "whops, you need more power, hold on for 1 second while I ramp up"
[10:15] <TAFB_zzz> so I forced it to full speed 24/7
[10:16] <bjp> weird, seems like throttling is usually more responsive than that
[10:16] <TAFB_zzz> to check the temp of your Pi cpu: /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[10:16] <bjp> yea
[10:17] <bjp> i don't have a neat web status page running, but i've checked the stats on the commandline :b
[10:17] <TAFB_zzz> bjp: I think it was an issue with php, it tries to open more "workers" right when it's ramping up, causing a 100% cpu load spike and a delay in the page. works flawless at full speed (as you can probably tell by the speed at which the status page loads) :)
[10:17] <TAFB_zzz> good stuff :)
[10:17] <TAFB_zzz> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
[10:17] <TAFB_zzz> that's for current actual cpu speed
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[10:18] <bjp> well i'll look more at power stuff tomorrow, way past bed time
[10:19] <bjp> later, thanks for the info
[10:19] <TAFB_zzz> minie too, 4:20am here :)
[10:19] <TAFB_zzz> nite nite sleep good
[10:19] <TAFB_zzz> i'm off too
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[10:49] <frikinz> the maximum transition lantency for cpufreq is 355 microseconds
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[10:51] <viric> does the pi have cpufreq?
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[10:54] <jelly1> yes
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[10:55] <frikinz> yes CONFIG_ARM_BCM2835_CPUFREQ=y
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[11:36] <xenophile> i <3 my pi
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[11:37] <DarkTherapy> i <3 your pi too
[11:38] <xenophile> lol
[11:38] <tanuva> I'd rather <3 mine
[11:39] <xenophile> i got it yesterday and had to drop everything to play with it
[11:39] <tanuva> oh yes. lost 3 hours yesterday till I got wlan to work
[11:39] <DarkTherapy> I <3 mine but it doesn't <3 me, as I've left it out in the cold garage
[11:39] <xenophile> i do CxO level strategy for tech companies and I am seriously thinking that this could be a huge game changer for the desktop
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[11:39] <xenophile> screw MSFT. a pi with linux, and ooffice....
[11:42] <xenophile> $100 vs 1500-2000$ for a corporate desktop.
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[11:43] <tanuva> + some 10000$ servers
[11:43] <DarkTherapy> yeah, and the pi runs just as well as a high end laptop..
[11:43] <tanuva> without gbit lan that won't be much fun I guess
[11:44] <jelly1> /care about gbit lan
[11:44] <xenophile> ahh everything in the cloud is easy
[11:44] <jelly1> you need support for libreoffice ;)
[11:44] <viric> as well as a high end laptop?
[11:44] <xenophile> i moved a dotcom i was responsile for to google apps a buncha years ago and have no regrets...
[11:45] <DarkTherapy> viric: satire
[11:45] <xenophile> could replace all of those macbook air that they had to buy with a pi and save a few megabucks
[11:45] <viric> ok
[11:45] <tanuva> xenophile: your own installation or did you put your corporate data into google's cloud? oO
[11:45] <xenophile> yeah, you wouldnt believe how many corps use google for business these days
[11:46] <viric> for internal mail, for example.
[11:46] <viric> let's see how long it takes for "google vpn"
[11:46] <viric> :)
[11:46] <xenophile> their T&C are reasonable.
[11:46] <xenophile> heh
[11:46] <xenophile> i bet a doughnut that it is based on openvpn ;)
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[11:48] <xenophile> however the GbE nic thing, would be nice to see fixed
[11:49] <jelly1> most people don't need GbE
[11:49] <jelly1> I/O isnt fast enough :p
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[11:49] <xenophile> yeah one can stream 1080p on 10mb no problemo
[11:50] <Jck_true> my Sata drive won't push over 20 mb/sec anyway
[11:50] <jelly1> usb3 go go go :)
[11:51] <Draylor> and we've just designed the ??125 pi :)
[11:51] <Jck_true> jelly1: Still gotta get off spinning disks then...
[11:51] <jelly1> Pi would be better if it could decode more stuff using the GPU
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[11:51] <tanuva> add +4$ on each pi's price
[11:52] <tanuva> for more decoder licenses. it's just all about money
[11:52] <Jck_true> Draylor: Yeah i think they need a few more layers on the board if we still want 8gb of ram+thunderbolt+usb3+1tb storage+satelite phone
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[11:53] <Jck_true> I'm fine with the codec support - It wasn't really meant to be a media center anyway
[11:53] <tanuva> I wonder what was the first constraint for the pi. Price? PCB size?
[11:53] <nid0> price
[11:53] <Jck_true> tanuva: Price apprently -
[11:53] <tanuva> Jck_true: but it does very well as one!
[11:54] <Jck_true> tanuva: Yeah - I wouldn't mind if they extended the codec store thing
[11:54] <xenophile> it plays 1080p much better than the dell mini i had as a set-top box for years
[11:55] <Jck_true> Plays 1080p better than my 4 year old Acer Laptop...
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[11:56] <atmosx> hello
[11:57] <atmosx> I have installed screenly on my Pi. how can I get the initial reconfiguration screen?
[11:57] <Jck_true> raspi-config
[11:57] <atmosx> I need the split memory option set to 128/128
[11:57] <Jck_true> on a terminal
[11:57] <Jck_true> (and I guess you need to run it as "sudo raspi-config"
[11:59] <jelly1> or just configure /boot/config.txt
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[11:59] <atmosx> thanks
[11:59] <tanuva> hm. the only thing that takes ages is scanning the id3 tags of ~25gig of music
[11:59] <jelly1> tanuva: on a Pi?
[11:59] <jelly1> nowai
[11:59] <tanuva> yep indeed
[11:59] <Hoerie> try doing it to 150GB ;-)
[11:59] <tanuva> usb hdd
[12:00] <tanuva> Hoerie: okay :X
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[12:00] <Hoerie> it's actually not all that bad
[12:00] <tanuva> only need to do the full scan once anyway
[12:00] <Hoerie> hopefully yes
[12:01] <Hoerie> I'm struggling more with the fanart aspect of things
[12:01] <Hoerie> xbmc is really horrible interface/consistency-wise
[12:02] <jelly1> it's still the best media center :)
[12:02] <jelly1> i just use the android app
[12:02] <jelly1> works flawless -> select series -> serie -> episode -> plays \o/
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[12:03] <frikinz> It might be possible to scan the id3 on your laptop and then move the DB on the PI?
[12:03] <Hoerie> I use yatse to control it, but I want to have artist images on my 'now playing' and for some reason xbmc plugins aren't finding the art that is available on the websites they are supposed to be using
[12:03] <frikinz> Mmhh also have ~150GB music, will be fun
[12:03] <atmosx> Change memory split to 128/128 (recommended)
[12:03] <atmosx> ah
[12:03] <Hoerie> you can use a separate library db which can be populated by something other than the pi
[12:03] <atmosx> to do this I just put 128 in memory_split right, not 128/128
[12:03] <atmosx> well this asumes apparently that my Pi is a 256 while it's a 512
[12:05] <Hoerie> I guess I should also check if my japanese music tags get handled nicely
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[12:07] <frikinz> On my home pc I use amarok (I'm lazy) and the DB is actually also on the external disk. So I just move the disk from pc to pc and the db is always consistent
[12:07] <frikinz> Sometimes it gets long when id tags can't be parsed
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[12:30] <ShiftPlusOne> Anyone know off the top of their head which LEDs on the board you can drive and what their gpio numbers are?
[12:30] <mgottschlag> OK LED, I think it is GPIO 16
[12:30] <ShiftPlusOne> thanks
[12:31] <mgottschlag> eh, 17 when counting from 1
[12:32] <ShiftPlusOne> Yup, confirmed that with the peripherals page on elinux. Didn't spot it on the first skim.
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[12:40] <Gadgetoid> Crouching tiger, hidden drogon...
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[12:43] <tanuva> Gadgetoid: true dat?
[12:44] <Gadgetoid> Yes, quite unusual
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[13:05] <Gadgetoid> Eeek, I need to solder up my Pi Ladder kit
[13:05] <Gadgetoid> Bloomin' Christmas, interfering with geekery!
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[13:12] <xenophile> pi lader kit?
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[13:24] <dr_willis> gotta love blinkey leds
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[13:27] <Adnauseam> anyone using xmonad on the pi ?
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[13:28] <dr_willis> not tried. ;)
[13:29] <dr_willis> i dont see why it wouldent work however.
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[15:07] <unigee> Hi everyone. Does anyone know why I get this error- /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd: error while loading shared libraries: libvcos.so: cannot open shared objct file: No such file or directory
[15:07] <unigee> when I am trying to use measure_temp in archlinux?
[15:09] <frikinz> you have it in /sys also. find /sys -name temp
[15:09] <dr_willis> does that lib exist?
[15:09] <unigee> I dont know how to fnd out lol
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[15:10] <dr_willis> locate libvcos.so
[15:10] <frikinz> aptitude install apt-file; apt-file update; apt-file search libvcos.so
[15:11] <frikinz> aptitude install dlocate; update-dlocatedb; dlocate libvcos.so would tell the package name if its installed
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[15:11] <frikinz> don't know for arch
[15:11] <dr_willis> ;-)
[15:12] <dr_willis> arch typical answer... read the docs. ;-)
[15:12] <unigee> im guessing its something different, as locate and aptitude does not work for me ~command not found
[15:12] <unigee> lol
[15:12] <neilr> you can always "find . -name <filename> -print" from the root directory if you haven't got locate installed.
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[15:12] <unigee> yea thats what im going to do now
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[15:12] <dr_willis> installed the locate command?
[15:12] <frikinz> unigee: you don't need vcgencmd for reading the temp, as I said, your kernel provides it in /sys
[15:14] <unigee> ahh ok thanks, i'll go hunting
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[15:16] <TAFB_zzz> mornin peeps :)
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[15:18] <frikinz> Hi TAFB. Did you fall off the bed? :)
[15:18] <TAFB> i did, cause my dynamic php caching solution I built works so good :) http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[15:19] <TAFB> click the refresh link (or in your browser) as fast as you want, she loads quick and pretty :)
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[15:24] <oehokie> anyone have a sec to answer some quick GPIO questions?
[15:24] <gordonDrogon> probably..
[15:25] <oehokie> how vulnerable are the pins? I'm setting up a home brewery and need to control a bunch of SSRs... don't want the RasPi to fry in the middle of a brew
[15:26] <oehokie> or, what can i do to protect the pins?
[15:26] <gordonDrogon> they are quite vulnerable.
[15:26] <gordonDrogon> however the SSRs I've used have opto isolator inputs.
[15:26] <gordonDrogon> and connect directly to a Pi/Arduino, etc. just make sure it can be driven from a 3.3v source.
[15:26] <oehokie> they can
[15:26] <oehokie> 3-22V
[15:27] <gordonDrogon> so all you need to do is make sure there is isolation between your mains side and the low-voltage side and off you go.
[15:27] <oehokie> i don't have the SSRs in front of me, but is there a way to tell? do they all have them built in?
[15:27] <frikinz> wow that's highly critical environment. home brewery mmmhhh dreams of having one
[15:28] <gordonDrogon> check the data sheet.
[15:28] <gordonDrogon> I've be highly surprised if they didn't have opto isolated inputs. really.
[15:29] <oehokie> ok, good to know
[15:29] <oehokie> thanks!
[15:29] <gordonDrogon> just double check the data sheets to be sure.
[15:30] <gordonDrogon> however SSR's are far superior to mechanical relays IMO - I'd use them any day now over mechanicals.
[15:30] <gordonDrogon> (even though they're a bit more expensive)
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[15:30] <oehokie> so, that's another thing... i also have some mechanical relays, what should i do to protect the raspi because of those?
[15:30] <gordonDrogon> You can get ones that do zero crossing switching to - good for inductive loads like heaters to stop any mains spikes, etc.
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[15:31] <gordonDrogon> for the mechanicals - again, as long as you separate the mains from the low voltage then you're fine.
[15:31] <gordonDrogon> you'll need a driver for the relays though - e.g. uln2803, etc.
[15:31] <oehokie> well, i got a relay board from amazon... i was originally using arduino so i got one that worked 5V to operate 12V electric valves
[15:32] <gordonDrogon> chekc the coil current specs. though. the uln2803/2003 can only handle 500mA max. over all outputs in total.
[15:32] <oehokie> but now i'm trying to ditch the arduino... so i was going to use something like this: http://adafruit.com/products/395 to make the conversion
[15:33] <gordonDrogon> you only need that if you're talking to 5v logic devices. What are you connecting the arduino to?
[15:33] <oehokie> i'm trying to get rid of the arduino
[15:34] <gordonDrogon> sure - but what are you connect it it to now that needs 5v - so that you need that convetor on the Pi.
[15:34] <oehokie> trying to get the raspi to control the relay board, but the relay board accepts 5V signals
[15:34] <gordonDrogon> ok. use a uln2803.
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[15:34] <gordonDrogon> or that convertor - I guess it depends on the board you have - got an ID for it?
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[15:35] <gordonDrogon> maybe the board already has drivers on it like the 2803 chips and the inputs are setup for 5v operation.
[15:35] <gordonDrogon> if you have the board ID, I can have a look...
[15:35] <oehokie> if i'm reading the datasheet right it seems like overkill... in this case it's going to be controlling a low voltage (12V), low power electric valve
[15:36] <oehokie> one sec, need to look it up
[15:37] <oehokie> http://www.amazon.com/SainSmart-16-Channel-Relay-Module-Arduino/dp/B0057OC66U/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1355927783&sr=8-5&keywords=arduino+relay+board
[15:37] <oehokie> is what i have
[15:38] * gordonDrogon looks.
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[15:39] <gordonDrogon> ok, so it has 12V relays on it which can switch mains.
[15:39] <gordonDrogon> it also has input buffers on it to take 5v ttl outputs.
[15:39] <oehokie> i suppose i could just use some transistors and skip the relay board
[15:39] <gordonDrogon> most ttl inputs will trigger at 3.3v.
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[15:39] <oehokie> ok, i'll give it a shot when i get home
[15:39] <gordonDrogon> If you already have the board, I'd just try it on the Pi. You'll need a separate 12v source to power the relays though.
[15:39] <gordonDrogon> but I presume you already have that.
[15:40] <oehokie> yeah
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[15:40] <oehokie> would transistors also be a safe option?
[15:40] <oehokie> (sorry, i'm learning the electronics side as i go, much better at programming)
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> ok - just looked at the circuit diagram of that board.
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> it's impressive :)
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[15:42] <gordonDrogon> it has opto isolated inputs which drive uln2803s which drive the relays.
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> So I'd just go for it - connect one input to a GPIO on the Pi and toggle the GPIO pin using the gpio program (or whatever) and see if you hear the relay click.
[15:44] <oehokie> excellent... i will give that a try when i get home
[15:44] <atouk> for $23, VERY impressive
[15:45] <gordonDrogon> yea, almost a steal.
[15:45] <gordonDrogon> I doubt I could buy the components for that.
[15:46] <neilr> tempted to get one of those, and then work out what to do with it later
[15:46] <oehokie> haha
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[15:46] <oehokie> anyways, thanks for your help
[15:46] <atouk> I's still feel safer with something like a 74HCT125 between the pi and the outside world
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[15:51] <gordonDrogon> atouk, sure, but just how far do you take it?
[15:52] <gordonDrogon> that relay board has an opto isolator, a uln2803 and a mechanical relay before it gets near the other side...
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[15:52] <gordonDrogon> why add more complexity...
[15:55] <atouk> i'm just not comfortable with loading up unbuffered outputs. but that board does seem pretty safe
[15:57] <neilr> blimey. $23 from amazon.com. ?30 from amazon.co.uk
[15:57] <neilr> maybe I don't want one quite so much
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[16:10] <confusid> using software codecs my sound has this horrable clicking that over powers the music of a mp3. How do I go about trouble shooting it?
[16:10] <dr_willis> using the hdmi out or analog audio out?
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[16:10] <confusid> analog audio
[16:11] <dr_willis> iveee heard theres some driver issues/bugs with the analog out. the raspbmc blogs/forums mentioned it
[16:11] <confusid> ty will google more and see what they say
[16:12] <dr_willis> id have a popping noise when videos started up
[16:12] <megaproxy> is there some command for the rpi to use the yellow video jack?
[16:12] <megaproxy> or should it just work..
[16:12] <confusid> should work
[16:12] <megaproxy> poop
[16:12] <tanuva> megaproxy: as long as you didn't have hdmi plugged at boot time
[16:13] <tanuva> and check if you need ntsc or pal
[16:13] <IT_Sean> megaproxy: the raspi should default to the RCA video out, uless it detects HDMI
[16:15] <megaproxy> doesnt seem to work :(
[16:15] <megaproxy> no hdmi
[16:15] <megaproxy> idk if this portable dvd will work at all tbh
[16:16] <tanuva> what kind of device is that?
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[16:23] <megaproxy> its a shinco sdp 6820
[16:24] <IT_Sean> *cough*madeinchina*cough*
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[16:28] <confusid> how could I take from my x64 system Debian system "mkfs.msdos" and have it work on my Raspberry Pi with Raspbian?
[16:28] <confusid> seem it is missing some of the other formats
[16:29] <frikinz> confusid: can't you take the one from the raspbian repo?
[16:30] <frikinz> dosfstools
[16:30] <jelly1> yay new sd card for raspbmc
[16:31] <confusid> frikinz: ty, will take a look. was expecting the same name for it.
[16:32] <megaproxy> IT_Sean, well i bought it in thailand :P
[16:32] <megaproxy> for a few hundred baht
[16:33] <IT_Sean> What's that... about ??1.25 ?
[16:33] <IT_Sean> :p
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[16:37] <neilr> Does anyone use a micro-SD card in their Pi? If so, what type is it?
[16:38] <gordonDrogon> I've used kingston ones.
[16:38] <IT_Sean> neilr: you'd need to use a MicroSD to SD card adapter, as the slot is SDCard sized
[16:38] <neilr> Yup, I know - I snapped it off yesterday, so need to glue in an adaptor :)
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[16:38] <IT_Sean> :o
[16:39] <IT_Sean> how did you manage that!?
[16:39] <dr_willis> they got half-height microsd to sd adaptors ive seen
[16:39] <neilr> Nothing more sinister than cack-handed clumsiness
[16:39] <dr_willis> less to stick out the side
[16:39] <neilr> I've already got a couple of adaptors
[16:39] <neilr> My kids have the cards in their phones
[16:39] * Datalink writes a Plan 9 SD card... this should be interesting
[16:40] <Datalink> yesterday I got a 2 pack of 2 gig SD cards for misc experiments with my RPi... has anyone here tried Plan 9?
[16:40] <frikinz> I also run an sd card adapter. I think the microsd is a samsung. I walked on the damn adaptor, a small piece of plastic you would think useless is gone. now only the pi can access through this adapter the microsd. not any laptop :(
[16:40] <neilr> I'll have a whizz with a Kingston one - only need 2GB one, 'cos it's for RISC OS
[16:41] <dr_willis> plan9 ran.. but i think i had mouse issues with it
[16:41] <Datalink> frikinz, could be a mechanical issue, I've gone through so many microSD adaptors over the years...
[16:42] <frikinz> Datalink: I guess its mechanical as under this plastic is again plastic. But its amazing, 1 or 2 mm piece on the side
[16:42] * IT_Sean only has one microSD adapter, he uses it to move stuff between his phone (microSD) and his computer (SD)
[16:42] <Datalink> frikinz, might have been other mechanical damage, hm
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[16:43] <Datalink> with a new android phone ordered, I got a new micro adaptor and 8 gig SD card... I expect it to be useful as this phone's replacing my old iPod
[16:43] <Ryanteck> Hey :)
[16:43] <neilr> My phone is so old it doesn't take micro-SD cards :)
[16:44] <IT_Sean> :o
[16:44] <IT_Sean> I have a 1 gig one in mine.
[16:44] <Ryanteck> auch
[16:44] <Ryanteck> I have a 4 Gig in mine
[16:44] <Ryanteck> But its an old android
[16:44] <dr_willis> ircing from my SIII right now
[16:44] <IT_Sean> Same here. LG GT540
[16:44] <Ryanteck> Galaxy Pro
[16:45] <Ryanteck> Not been able to give it up due to me loving the keyboard
[16:45] <neilr> Nokia 3310.
[16:45] <frikinz> I have a 661MB partition for raspbian / and .. its tricky :)
[16:45] <dr_willis> mine can take external usb drives with a right adaptor ;)
[16:45] <Datalink> Samsung Glide... stupid AT&T only has the one model for keyboards
[16:46] <Ryanteck> Better than my one
[16:46] <dr_willis> got a little bluetooth keybord here
[16:46] <Ryanteck> Mines only 2.7"
[16:46] <Ryanteck> with a keyboard stuck on it
[16:46] <Ryanteck> brb
[16:46] <frikinz> dr_willis: what do you think about the SIII? I have one also
[16:46] <Datalink> and I just prooved I am an utter moron...
[16:46] <dr_willis> frikinz: works well.. a few quirks.
[16:46] <Ryanteck> Hmm
[16:47] <Datalink> I just pulled my Rasbian SD card out to swap it for the Plan 9 without shutting down >.<
[16:47] <Ryanteck> Anyone here released an app / game to the Pi store?
[16:47] <gordonDrogon> not yet - looking to in the next few days ..
[16:47] <Ryanteck> Been waiting for approval to release in dev
[16:47] <frikinz> Datalink: humm pray
[16:47] <Datalink> and oops, that was the RISC OS image...
[16:47] <Datalink> frikinz, I will ;.;
[16:47] <IT_Sean> was it writing to the card?
[16:47] <IT_Sean> you MIGHT be okay, or you might be completly shagged.
[16:47] <neilr> You'll be fine. RISC OS doesn't do much writing to the SD card
[16:48] <Datalink> neilr, I pulled my Rasbian card
[16:49] <Datalink> the main card I use
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[16:49] <neilr> Good luck then :)
[16:49] <Datalink> realization... I don't have the keyboard/mouse inputs I had before...
[16:49] <Datalink> I need it
[16:50] <Datalink> looks alright
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[16:52] <gordonDrogon> Ryanteck, ah yes, the RPIF needs to approve them all AIUI ..
[16:52] <Datalink> hm, I need a non-bluetooth keyboard now
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[17:23] <confusid> do I need to add non-free and others like I would in debian linux?
[17:23] <confusid> to my source.list
[17:24] <pksato> no and yes. :)
[17:24] <Essobi> Herp.
[17:25] <confusid> I'm trying to find the pancake web application and I'm failing to do so.
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[17:26] <pksato> pancake is not a debian package.
[17:26] <pksato> even, I dont know who is pancake on this conext.
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[17:27] <pksato> http://pancakehttp.net/
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[17:28] <RoyK> evening
[17:29] <Torikun> yo
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[17:30] <RoyK> I have tried to find a good PSU that can deliver 2A or so, but when I tried one in the shop today, I brought my multimeter to check the voltage between TP1 and TP2, and even without anything connected, it showed 4V, which is rather sad
[17:30] <Essobi> RoyK: Still morning here.
[17:30] <RoyK> I didn't buy that PSU
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[17:30] <Essobi> RoyK: Below 4.6 is horked, iirc.
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[17:31] <RoyK> but my question is, is my pi possibly from a bad batch?
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[17:31] <tanuva> while we're at it: I found the known-working PSU list on the elinux wiki to be quite useless for me looking for a german plug. what about sorting them by country?
[17:31] <RoyK> I've tried a few PSUs, cell phone chargers, whatnot, and they all show low voltage
[17:31] <pksato> RoyK: bad PSU, is more probable.
[17:31] <pksato> or, bad crap cable.
[17:32] <RoyK> also possible
[17:32] <Torikun> pksato: I had the same problem
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[17:32] <Torikun> my nexus 7 charger works the best but it can not power a USB hub connected to the PI lol
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[17:32] <pksato> If have a desktop computer, try to use a rear panel usb port as PSU for R-Pi
[17:32] <Datalink> tanuva, Apple's PSUs are known working and in tolerance so long as they aren't knockoffs
[17:33] * RoyK tries an USB hub
[17:33] <tanuva> Datalink: yep, I have a psu now. I just want to discuss this before I begin to change anything on the wiki
[17:34] <pksato> Torikun: is not possible to power USB HUB direct from R-Pi powered by micro usb conector.
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[17:34] <Datalink> tanuva, we're not the wiki, the lack of data is very likely lack of observation in that aream adding info is usually encouraged though
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[17:34] <Torikun> pksato: ah figured that
[17:35] <Torikun> 08:31 <+RoyK> I've tried a few PSUs, cell phone chargers, whatnot, and they all show low voltage
[17:35] <Torikun> 08:31 <+pksato> RoyK: bad PSU, is more probable.
[17:35] <Torikun> 08:31 <+pksato> or, bad crap cable.
[17:35] <Torikun> 08:32 <+RoyK> also possible
[17:35] <Torikun> 08:32 <+Torikun> pksato: I had the same problem
[17:35] <Torikun> 08:32 <+Torikun> my nexus 7 charger works the best but it can not power a USB hub connected to the PI lol
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[17:35] <tanuva> aaaah
[17:35] <Torikun> 08:32 -!- mode/#raspberrypi [+v nahmaste] by PiBot
[17:35] <Torikun> oops
[17:35] <Torikun> dam mouse sorry
[17:35] <Essobi> :D
[17:36] <Essobi> IRSSI can stop you stop a mispaste.
[17:36] <Essobi> I <3 irssi
[17:36] <Torikun> I am using irssi lol
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[17:37] <RoyK> 4.65 with the usb hub
[17:38] <Essobi> Torikun: aww, turn up your paste line detector.
[17:39] <Torikun> tektsu: /clear
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[17:39] <confusid> pksato: ty that would explain why I cant find it :)
[17:40] <RoyK> or ~4V with monitor and keyboard connected
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[17:42] <RoyK> and keyboard is dead :(
[17:43] * RoyK tries to connect kbd via hub
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[17:44] <confusid> I have a usb2 5v 2.1A usb hub and have mouse keyboard webcam usb-hard drive and hdmi plugged in and it is not hesitating. The power plug in the pi is a 5v 1a though.
[17:45] <confusid> just watched a video on a junky cable that was putting out juice then randomly failed.
[17:45] <pksato> confusid: if you need a light http server, debian have a lots packaged.
[17:45] <confusid> apache is the only one I've ever used :/
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[17:46] <frikinz> apache is faster than pancake.. nginx is faster than apache
[17:46] <pksato> apache is not a light ttpf.
[17:46] <pksato> httpd
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[17:47] <confusid> lighthttpd :) got it
[17:47] <pksato> lighthttpd not really light. :)
[17:47] <confusid> >< lol
[17:48] <confusid> googleing more
[17:48] <pksato> is light to a big server machinne.
[17:48] <nid0> apache, nginx, and lighttpd all run fine on the pi
[17:49] <pksato> confusid: static pages or dinamic?
[17:49] <confusid> to start i would have static but once I learn I would like dinamic
[17:50] <pksato> lighthttpd is fine.
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[17:50] <confusid> ty
[17:50] <pksato> can run php, perl, python, etc, via fast-cgi.
[17:50] <Torikun> http://rusher81572.dyndns.org:8000
[17:52] <Torikun> hmmmm
[17:52] <RoyK> hrmf
[17:52] <RoyK> seems I can't make the keyboard work - is networking enabled by default?
[17:53] <Torikun> oh I need apache enabled duh
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[17:53] <jelly1> hmm raspbmc doesnt work get interwebz :(
[17:54] <jelly1> let's use the full installer
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[17:56] <Torikun> CHeck out http://rusher81572.dyndns.org:8000/
[17:56] <Torikun> it works now lol
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[17:56] <confusid> Thats what I am wanting to make.. lol
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[17:57] <Torikun> lol
[17:57] <jelly1> nice
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[17:57] <Torikun> I want to enable the thermo plugin now
[17:58] <Torikun> or does it work by default
[17:58] <Torikun> TAFB: you there?
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[17:59] <atouk> that page looks familiar
[17:59] <Torikun> TAFB had that on his Rpi atouk
[18:00] <Torikun> I just installed it on mine to give my pi some use lol
[18:00] <atouk> yup. guess where her got it ;)
[18:00] <Torikun> oh wow you made it ?
[18:00] <atouk> (he)
[18:00] <Torikun> lol cool
[18:00] <Torikun> how do I now the temperature is working right
[18:00] <Torikun> it is freezing in my apartment
[18:00] <Torikun> and that shoes it is hot
[18:01] <nid0> its not ambient temp
[18:01] <Torikun> what is it then?
[18:01] <atouk> temp sensor is inside the cpu, shich is under the ram chip.
[18:02] <Torikun> but if it is freezing in my apartment, why is it so hot?
[18:02] <atouk> is it in a case?
[18:02] <nid0> electronics generate heat?
[18:02] <Torikun> Yeah
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[18:02] <nid0> hot things can be hot even when cold things are cold?
[18:03] <atouk> mines at about 45
[18:03] <atouk> no case
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[18:03] <Torikun> atouk: does the temperature meter work out of the box?
[18:03] <Torikun> or does any tweak have to be done
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[18:03] <atouk> it's in the readme
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[18:04] <confusid> where did you download that?
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[18:04] <atouk> http://69.126.35.213:8000/
[18:04] <atouk> link at bottom
[18:04] <confusid> ty
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[18:04] <Datalink> I still need to adapt that to my Apache install
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[18:05] <atouk> was written on an apache install
[18:05] <Torikun> Temperature meter requires phpChart_Lite available from
[18:05] <Torikun> http://phpchart.net/
[18:05] <Torikun> Replace /js/plugins/jqplot.categoryaxisrenderer.min.js with the
[18:05] <Torikun> included file to eliminate the white box around the meter.
[18:05] <Torikun> THat is all it says
[18:05] <Torikun> I do not see a white box
[18:05] <Datalink> ah ok
[18:05] <atouk> my dl has the correct readme
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[18:06] <Torikun> ah ok
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[18:07] <atouk> if you don't see the white box around the meter, you have the updated file
[18:08] <Torikun> I did not update the file
[18:08] <Torikun> lol
[18:08] <Torikun> I just unzipped
[18:08] <Torikun> and everything worked
[18:08] <Torikun> what distro do you use?
[18:08] <nid0> so whats the problem?
[18:08] <atouk> i might have included the updated one in zip
[18:08] <Torikun> I just want to make sure it is reading the temp correctly and if tehre is anything extra to be done
[18:08] <nid0> it is
[18:08] <atouk> if temp is display, it's reading correct
[18:09] <Torikun> ah ok
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[18:09] <atouk> the only math done to temp for the page is to add decimal point and chop after tenths
[18:09] <Torikun> oh
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[18:10] <Torikun> would the raspbnerry pi be good for bitcoin
[18:10] <atouk> don't know anything about bitcoin
[18:10] <SpeedEvil> Torikun: no
[18:10] <nid0> no
[18:10] <Torikun> GPU sucks that ahrd?
[18:10] <SpeedEvil> Torikun: it will never complete a block
[18:11] <Torikun> oh
[18:11] <SpeedEvil> the GPU cannot be used for that
[18:11] <Dagger2> what's bad with running bitcoin on the Pi? it doesn't even need the GPU
[18:11] <SpeedEvil> it does not have enough CPU to follow the block chain
[18:11] <Dagger2> ... /mining/ bitcoins would be a terrible idea, of course, but bitcoin itself ought to be fine
[18:11] <SpeedEvil> sure
[18:11] <Torikun> oh
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[18:12] <Dagger2> hm, it actually can't keep up?
[18:12] <Dagger2> or does it just have trouble catching up?
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[18:15] <SpeedEvil> the Nokia n900 I tried to start it on about 18 months ago
[18:16] <SpeedEvil> never caught up
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[18:18] <Joeboy> Anybody know how to change the screen size to something better than 80x25 on a serial terminal?
[18:18] <Essobi> O_o
[18:20] <pksato> Joeboy: a more than 15 yars ago, I have answer to this question.
[18:20] <viric> 'serial terminal'?
[18:20] <Joeboy> Did you write it down?
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[18:21] <confusid> pksato: is it in the kernel?
[18:21] <pksato> confusid?
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[18:21] <Joeboy> viric: ...yes?
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[18:22] <pksato> Joeboy: I dont remember if it is configured on terminal emulator or o getty (or both).
[18:22] <confusid> pksato: sorry wrong window when I tabed for the name
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[18:22] <Torikun> ls
[18:22] <viric> I see the question underspecified
[18:22] <Datalink> http://deadend.dyndns-ip.com/piwww/index.php
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[18:23] <Datalink> atouk, I'm gonna have a bit of editing, aren't I?
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[18:23] <atouk> no, you just have file structure wrong
[18:23] <pksato> Joeboy: stty can control serial terminal propriets
[18:24] <atouk> redownload from my link and see readme. i added a note about that
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[18:26] <Joeboy> pksato: I tried stty -F /dev/ttyUSB0 rows 50 and it didn't seem to work... any idea what else I might try?
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[18:28] <pksato> Joeboy: no. need some extra search.
[18:28] <Joeboy> Maybe 80x25 is enough. I mean, people used to use ed.
[18:28] <gordonDrogon> Joeboy, do you have a getty running on it?
[18:29] <gordonDrogon> I used to use ed ...
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[18:30] <Joeboy> gordonDrogon: I apologise for my ignorance, but I don't really know what that means
[18:30] <Joeboy> It's a vanilla raspbian install
[18:30] <Datalink> getty is a TTY manager for Linux
[18:31] <gordonDrogon> Joeboy, ok - so what are you connecting the usb serial device to?
[18:32] <Joeboy> gordonDrogon:laptop running minicom -> ftdi cable -> pi
[18:32] <gordonDrogon> right, so if you want to login to the Pi, then you'll need to run getty on the Pi.
[18:32] <Joeboy> I am logged into the pi
[18:32] <gordonDrogon> so you must .. hang on.
[18:32] <gordonDrogon> are you connecting to the Pi's on-board, or via USB on the Pi?
[18:33] <Joeboy> to the pi's uart
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> right. This is not /dev/ttyUSB0.
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> it's /dev/ttyAMA0.
[18:33] <Joeboy> ah, right, ttyUSB0 is on the laptop
[18:33] <Joeboy> sorry, I'm a serial n00b
[18:33] <Datalink> Joeboy, we all start somewhere, don't worry
[18:34] <gordonDrogon> right, but that's not relevant from this point of view... so you're running minicom and it's a big window,
[18:34] <gordonDrogon> and using vi on the pi only uses some of the window?
[18:34] <Joeboy> 'zactly
[18:34] <gordonDrogon> ok. now we're getting somewhere :)
[18:34] <gordonDrogon> so, on the minicom terminal, try typing stty -a
[18:35] <gordonDrogon> that will tell you what the Pi thinks the settings are.
[18:35] <Joeboy> It starts speed 115200 baud; rows 50; columns 80; line = 0;
[18:35] <Joeboy> but I don't have 50 rows...
[18:35] <gordonDrogon> how many do you have?
[18:35] <Joeboy> 25
[18:36] <Joeboy> oh hang on..
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[18:36] <pksato> Joeboy: before launch minicom, export COLUMNS=132; export LINE=50
[18:36] <gordonDrogon> type: stty rows 25
[18:36] <Joeboy> I just started vi and got a big screen
[18:36] <Joeboy> weird
[18:36] <Joeboy> Much better
[18:36] <pksato> and, same on remote sheel.
[18:37] <Joeboy> Thanks all
[18:37] <Joeboy> This will be much less painful
[18:37] * Datalink goes wide eyed, "I was looking for something like minicon for weeks, finally settled on the Linux version of PuTTY which doesn't even talk with the X clipboard o.X"
[18:39] <pksato> or, open a xteminal with 132x50 size.
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[18:52] <Datalink> atouk, I'm tempted to write a gd or imagemagik version of the graph as I look at phpGraph's prices
[18:52] <Datalink> probably imagemagik
[18:52] <Essobi> Heh.
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[18:53] <atouk> php_chartLite is pretty fragmented code. i just grabbed it because i was putting the page together quick and dirty.
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[18:54] <atouk> sits inside a self obfuscator, css files all over the place, incomplete formatting, jave to dig into js files for frmatting....
[18:55] <Datalink> atouk, lemme grab lunch and I'll start looking at the graph problem, I can probably make a nice looking graph and needle in Flash, then whip up something decent that's server or client side with a bit of work and trickery, depends on how heavy the GD image rotate ops hit the Pi's CPU for which one I'll use
[18:56] <Joeboy> Use canvas?
[18:56] <Datalink> or we could have something besides an analog
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[18:57] <SpeedEvil> drawing a line in JavaScript is quite cheap indeed
[18:57] <Datalink> like I said, I'm considering client options
[18:57] <atouk> the entire thing just started as basic status page and to test the apache/php install. a couple wanted copies, so i added the link at bottom and the readme
[18:58] <Datalink> is the stock raspbian image's browser capable of canvas?
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[18:59] <atouk> i was more interested in seeing what i could do with the gpio pins via a web interface (had a couple projects in mind and wanted realtime pin control/status via webpage)
[19:00] <Datalink> ah, makes sense
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[19:00] <Datalink> I still need to make a wrapper for my blinkm setter...
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[19:00] <Datalink> which I need to add a version check in for what device it calls x.x ugh
[19:00] <atouk> of course, then i added one thing, then added something else. there was really no master plan
[19:00] <Zehle> Hello! I have a analog termometer, what doI need to convert the signal to digital for the GPIOs? :D
[19:01] <Datalink> atouk, okay, I want to add a thing...
[19:01] <pksato> Zehle: a ADC chip.
[19:01] <pksato> or a pic or avr doing conversion.
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[19:01] <pksato> and lots of programing.
[19:01] <Zehle> pksato: Okej, is the amount of bits kind of the amount of precision? :)
[19:01] <atouk> or get a one wire interface thermometer chip
[19:02] <Zehle> atouk: That is?
[19:02] <pksato> 7 bits is fine for ambient thermometer.
[19:02] <Zehle> pksato: How precize will that be?
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[19:03] <Joeboy> I'm sure there's some expansion board with an adc on it. Gertboard?
[19:03] <pksato> and, depend of sensor.
[19:03] <Datalink> Zehle, depends on the chip, but most give you good temp range and .1 precision, give or take...
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[19:04] <pksato> analog termometer?
[19:04] <atouk> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=6649&start=125
[19:04] <atouk> read that thread
[19:04] <Zehle> Datalink: Okej, I'm thinking of using a analog themometer. I don't remember the name of it but I'll have to measure the resistance and calculate the temperatur myself
[19:04] <SpeedEvil> thermiator
[19:05] <SpeedEvil> thermistor
[19:05] <SpeedEvil> pt100/1000
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[19:06] <Zehle> Sorry, kinda logged of
[19:06] <pksato> and, acuaricy (?) depend of the calibration.
[19:07] <Zehle> So what did you say?
[19:07] <pksato> Zehle: check channel log. http://srv.datagutt1.com
[19:08] <Zehle> I want to send a signal through a cable with a voltage and then measure what comes out on the other side, depending on the Resistance I then will calculate the Temperature.
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[19:09] <Zehle> Logged off again, where was the channel log?
[19:09] <pksato> http://srv.datagutt1.com
[19:10] <pksato> Zehle: you need a OAP to "condition" the signal from sensor, and a ADC to put inside R-Pi.
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[19:11] <pksato> A simple and slow ADC cab be made using GPIO.
[19:12] <Zehle> pksato: Okej and what is a OAP?
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[19:13] <SpeedEvil> opamp
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[19:14] <pksato> Operation Amplifier, or Instrumentation Amplifier.
[19:14] <Zehle> pksato: What does it amplifie?
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[19:15] <pksato> wikepedia, please.
[19:15] <Zehle> pksatoAlright...
[19:15] <Walther> Hello! Just wondering what is the maximum resolution one can get out of the composite output?
[19:15] <pksato> Walther: 720x512 (pal resolution)
[19:16] <Walther> and refresh rate is probably 50/60Hz?
[19:16] <pksato> 50Hz for pal.
[19:16] <Zehle> pksato: So will I juse this oamp to get a higher voltage out of the pi?
[19:16] <pksato> NTSC . 720x480 60Hz.
[19:16] <pksato> Zehle: no.
[19:17] <Zehle> pksato: Then why do I need to boost the voltage?
[19:17] <pksato> Zehle: Its is very complex do explain.
[19:17] <Walther> mmkay. Also, have anyone any experience on watching youtube from the Pi - hmtl5 or anything?
[19:17] <Zehle> pksato: Okej :)
[19:17] <Zehle> pksato: No need, I'll figure something out :)
[19:18] <Zehle> pksato: Or maybe there's an easier wawy to get a temperature into the Pi
[19:18] <pksato> But, no need explanation to person what know eletronics.
[19:18] <Walther> I'm considering taking my headless raspi-server off and configuring it to a media player + youtube watching thing for my parents, to the living room
[19:18] <Zehle> I just got to get the temperatures labeld as variables in Python
[19:18] <dr_willis> you can get flash downloader plugins perhaps.. or flash replacer plugins to watch in vlv or mplayer
[19:18] <Zehle> pksato: Well, yeah I'm not that knowing in electronics yet, but I thought I'd teach myselfg
[19:19] <Zehle> pksato: I'm a fast learner :)
[19:19] <pksato> Zehle: get some book about.
[19:19] <Zehle> Pksato: Can't you try explaining it as if I was a pro and then I can translate your explanation later :)
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[19:21] <Walther> Have anyone tried to watch youtube - say, HTML5 version or something?
[19:21] <Zehle> brb
[19:21] <Walther> I've only used my Pi so far as a headless server
[19:21] <pksato> Zehle: suppose what sensor output voltage propotional to temperature, 1mV per temp unit.
[19:21] <dr_willis> you can get flash downloader plugins perhaps.. or flash replacer plugins to watch in vlv or mplayer walter.
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[19:22] <pksato> and at 0 temp have a 0V and a 100 temp, 100mV.
[19:22] <Walther> dr_willis: Any non-flashy alternatives?
[19:22] <Walther> dr_willis: Like I said, does anyone have experience with the youtube's html5 they offer
[19:22] <pksato> and ADC have a input range from 0V to 1V.
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[19:22] <axion> Walther: yes
[19:22] <Walther> axion: works?
[19:22] <axion> sure...but not in xorg of course
[19:23] <Walther> ...hm?
[19:23] <pksato> A OAP need to put sensor range, on ADC range.
[19:23] <axion> there is no driver for xorg acceleration
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[19:23] <Walther> hm. I wonder if ther's a youtube plugin for XBMC or something
[19:23] <axion> there is but it is crap
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[19:23] <Walther> :/
[19:24] <axion> use omxplayer for youtube
[19:25] <gordonDrogon> ah, good old NTSC... Never Twice Same Colour :)
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[19:25] <Walther> Can omxplayer be used for anything else, say, other media? Also, is it something that has to be started from CLI or can it be run from a DE?
[19:25] <axion> sure
[19:26] <axion> you can run a cli program from a vte
[19:27] <Zehle> add: I'm using a pt-100 or pt-1000 to get temps.
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> I don't think omxplayer uses any desktop stuff at all, does it?
[19:28] <axion> gordonDrogon: no
[19:28] <axion> it doesnt use EGL, just openmax
[19:29] <axion> directly plugging into to the kernel's broadcom host driver
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[19:30] <Blacklite_> hello
[19:31] <Walther> axion: so omxplayer would be "the" media player for Pi then?
[19:31] <axion> yes...here do this
[19:31] <Blacklite_> I am getting a pi soon, and i'd like to try raspbian on my x86 computer with qemu. can you help?
[19:31] <Walther> and is there enough power in the Pi to run a DE and omxplayer from there, while sustaining a 1080p video or a youtube stream
[19:32] <Blacklite_> help please?
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[19:35] <axion> Walther: sorry got disconnected
[19:35] <Walther> np
[19:35] <axion> Walther: if you know the encoded youtue video URL, you can play THAT with omxplayer
[19:35] <axion> you can get the tool 'youtube-dl' from your distribution's repository
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[19:35] <axion> and type youtube-dl -g "url of youtube video"
[19:36] <axion> and it will get the raw video url for you to use with omxplayer
[19:36] <axion> a simple script could automate this
[19:37] <Blacklite_> never mind.
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[19:37] <gordonDrogon> Walther, I'd suspect that the main issue is that there is only one output device.
[19:37] <Walther> axion: sounds awfully complicated for living room use
[19:38] <axion> not really...1 click of a remote
[19:38] <gordonDrogon> and from what I've seen running sometning like omxplayer just turns off the desktop...
[19:38] <Walther> axion: yes, one click if you know the video url already
[19:38] <Walther> but for youtube browsing, checking random vids, etc
[19:38] <Walther> like i said; living room use
[19:38] <axion> how else would you find videos?
[19:38] <axion> you have to browse the url's anyway
[19:39] <Walther> ...actually no
[19:39] <Walther> on some other devices you can type things in search and just click the video
[19:39] <Walther> either in browser or in a separate app
[19:39] <axion> yes and it brings you to a video url
[19:40] <axion> you're overcomplicating a simple issue. i wrote a plugin for uzbl to do JUST this
[19:40] <Walther> No, I'm not overcomplicating
[19:41] <axion> my browser's script
[19:41] <axion> http://www.uzbl.org/wiki/ytvp
[19:41] <Walther> I just don't want to force my dad to copy and paste a URL to a CLI app as a parameter
[19:41] <Walther> for every vid they want to watch
[19:41] <axion> when i go to a youtube video it will play in mplayer (just substitiute omxplayer)
[19:41] <axion> automagically
[19:41] <Walther> also, 20:38:15 <+gordonDrogon> and from what I've seen running sometning like omxplayer just turns off the desktop...
[19:42] <Walther> is that true; does it kill the X
[19:42] <axion> no it does not. it plays over the desktop
[19:42] <Walther> ok. Sorry for asking dumb questions, first time I would be using the pi for anything with a screen at all
[19:42] <Walther> i've been using it as a headless server :P
[19:43] <Walther> where, obviously, things are very different
[19:43] <Walther> and where the user (me) doesn't mind CLI
[19:44] <gordonDrogon> I use it both ways.
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[19:45] <gordonDrogon> so if running lxde/xfce/X... and you then run something that uses the gpu - omxplayer, demo_triangle, etc. then the desktop just carries on as before, you just can't see it.
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[19:49] <mhz> well, my pi is streaming via rtl_tcp
[19:49] <mhz> 256 B model
[19:50] <mhz> it's a bit choppy, and memory is very tight. in fact, i've ran out of physical and swap several time
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[19:52] <dr_willis> i got 2 pis one streaming via xbmc to the other. ;-)
[19:52] <bparker> mhz: want a 512mb one?
[19:52] <tanuva> dr_willis: have you tried airplay?
[19:52] <RoyK> erm - which pins take power? I need to connect a new power adapter to this pos
[19:52] <mhz> i have a 512 sitting in a box. i bet it will work out
[19:53] <mhz> i hope it will, not yet tested
[19:53] <bparker> ah
[19:53] <dr_willis> not tried airplay. never needed it.
[19:53] <bparker> I still use my 256mb instead of the 512's because of usb controller issues on the 512 :/
[19:53] <mhz> it has an rtl2832 hanging off it.. i guess that was obvious tho
[19:53] <mhz> usb issues?
[19:53] <mhz> do say more
[19:53] <bparker> ermagerd
[19:53] <mhz> heh
[19:54] <bparker> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=23544
[19:54] <mhz> thank you long time
[19:54] <bparker> http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/12/08/24/2228251/serious-problems-with-usb-and-ethernet-on-the-raspberry-pi
[19:55] <mhz> interesting
[19:55] <mhz> overall though, it's a fun little toy
[19:55] <mhz> i'd like to get an atom system at some point too
[19:56] <mhz> atom 64bit :D
[19:56] <gordonDrogon> bparker, quite an old link that, however it's not as it's it's not well known. And I recall that was a bit of a trolly article...
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[19:56] <bparker> gordonDrogon: yes but the links are still valid, and the problem still persists
[19:56] <bparker> I never had this issue with my 256mb pi
[19:56] <bparker> but 4 512's here all have the problem
[19:56] <mhz> are you giving them away?
[19:56] <mhz> ;)
[19:56] <bparker> even with no usb devices plugged in, the ethernet still stops working within 1 hour
[19:56] <bparker> since ethernet also runs on usb controller
[19:57] <mhz> oh no kidding?
[19:57] <bparker> yea
[19:57] <gordonDrogon> sure, but what do you expect for $35 from a device designed to be used as a set top box with very occasional usb/ethernet traffic?
[19:57] <mhz> i'll fire up my 512 this weekend and let it burn and see
[19:57] <bparker> gordonDrogon: I expect it to work
[19:57] <mhz> esp. if the 256 had no issues
[19:57] <mhz> i'd expect the same
[19:57] <gordonDrogon> bparker, expect to be dissapointed then.
[19:57] <bparker> gordonDrogon: please don't be like the slashdot trolls
[19:58] <mhz> i'm sure more action packed arm based boxes will come out
[19:58] <gordonDrogon> do you think I'd have spent the past 10 months writing software for the Pi, promoting it, buying them if I were a troll?
[19:58] <mhz> more than there is now that is
[19:58] <bparker> it doesn't matter if it's $3, $35 or $300. especially the way it's marketed and advertised by the foundation, it should never have these problems
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[19:58] <bparker> gordonDrogon: I just meant you put down the /. article but then say the same things the people were saying on there
[19:59] <bparker> i.e. 'what do you expect from $35 device'
[19:59] <gordonDrogon> I live in the real world - where I know what these things were originally designed for and the sort of budgets they were given. It fulfulled it's original purpose as a SoC for aset top box - now that same SoC is being pushed to its limits as a general purpose device.
[19:59] <gordonDrogon> I know and accept the limitations of the device.
[19:59] <gordonDrogon> but it seems that some don't/won't.
[19:59] <bparker> well, I wouldn't call booting into a console and the ethernet stop working under 0% load, being pushed to its limits
[20:00] <Draylor> yeah, because they all do that 100% of the time ...
[20:00] <gordonDrogon> it's utterly fantastic for what it is.
[20:00] <bparker> gordonDrogon: my problem is just that it's _completely_ unusable for me
[20:00] <bparker> I consider the usb controller/driver busted and broken, and I can't use the ethernet _at all_
[20:00] <nid0> maybe you're plugging it in wrong
[20:00] <bparker> or any usb devices
[20:00] <gordonDrogon> bparker, that's not my problem though. My 3 Pi's are completely usable for me.
[20:01] <gordonDrogon> quite.
[20:01] <Draylor> shrug, you are clearly doing it wrong then
[20:01] <bparker> maybe I'm just retarded then, I don't know. but I've seen lots that have this same problem also
[20:01] <gordonDrogon> or have you considered that it might actually be faulty?
[20:01] <bparker> all 4 of them though?
[20:01] * atouk raises hand. Power supply issues?
[20:01] <bparker> with different usb devices, different ethernet networks, cables, different power supplies, etc etc.
[20:01] <gordonDrogon> send them to me if you don't want them.
[20:01] <RoyK> guys - if holding the pi with the ethernet port on the right, am I right that the pin on the top left is the one to supply with 5V power and the third pin, counted, inclusively from the first, is the one to give ground?
[20:02] <bparker> atouk: I think I've ruled that out... TP1/TP2 gives me 5.02V steady and the cpu never goes above 48C
[20:02] <bparker> I've tried at least 5 different power supplies anyway though
[20:02] <bparker> to be sure
[20:02] <bparker> all at least 1A rating
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[20:02] <bparker> with different micro usb cables also
[20:03] <atouk> there a few bad ones out there, but one person geting that many raises eyebrows
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[20:03] <bparker> the fact that the 256mb one I have works fine, raises even more eyebrows
[20:03] <TAFB> RoyK: pin 1 is marked on the board, look closly. Pin2 is +5v and pin 6 is ground
[20:03] <bparker> but none of the 512's work correctly
[20:03] <TAFB> RoyK: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/Raspberry-Pi-GPIO-Layout-Revision-2-e1347664831557.png
[20:03] <gordonDrogon> RoyK, https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/pins/
[20:04] <atouk> are all 4 from the same batch (shipment/prder/etc)?
[20:05] <TAFB> bparker: Probably undercooked Pi's, my first two were underooked from the factory :( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SsMPBcVCw10#t=215s
[20:05] <TAFB> bparker: If you're gonna cook em, follow this: http://gough.ath.cx/?p=160
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[20:06] <biberao> hi
[20:06] <biberao> TAFB: my pi was sent!
[20:06] <bparker> let me guess, stick it in the reflow oven?
[20:06] <biberao> shipped
[20:06] <TAFB> bparker: toaster oven, your stoves oven, yep
[20:06] <dr_willis> would a microwave be faster?
[20:06] <TAFB> biberao: CONGRATS!!! :)
[20:06] <dr_willis> ;)
[20:06] <TAFB> dr_willis: no
[20:07] <gordonDrogon> I'd just send them back...
[20:07] <biberao> i hope it gets here tomorrow morning
[20:08] <TAFB> biberao: what are your big plans for your Pi?
[20:08] <dr_willis> got 2 pies here.. one seemd to be more crash prone/flakey but after switching power, and letting it run for a few hrs it seems stable now
[20:08] <biberao> TAFB: movies and follow gordonDrogon's footsteps :p
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[20:10] <bparker> wouldn't a microwave damage the rj45 connector since it is magnetic?
[20:10] <biberao> hey
[20:10] <biberao> i need to customize my raspbian or xbmc
[20:10] <biberao> to have vnc working
[20:10] <gordonDrogon> bparker, do not microwave your Pi.
[20:10] <biberao> since i dont have a usb keyboard
[20:10] <biberao> ideas
[20:10] <biberao> ?
[20:11] <bparker> gordonDrogon: I know :)
[20:11] <bparker> biberao: serial console?
[20:11] <dr_willis> what do you want to see on the vnc desktop
[20:11] <biberao> bparker: how
[20:11] <biberao> dr_willis: i want to play movies lol
[20:11] <biberao> atleast for now
[20:11] <gordonDrogon> ssh -X ?
[20:11] <biberao> ya good idea
[20:11] <biberao> gordonDrogon:
[20:11] <bparker> biberao: http://elinux.org/RPi_Serial_Connection
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[20:12] <bparker> I doubt you could watch movies over vnc
[20:12] <biberao> i need to enable ssh then
[20:12] <biberao> bparker: no no
[20:12] <biberao> i want to execute the software
[20:12] <gordonDrogon> biberao, you will not be able to view movies played on the Pi unless you have a screen plugged directly into the Pi.
[20:12] <dr_willis> biberao: err.. i dont think they use the X display. the raspbmc web site/faq mwntioned vnc not working on the pi
[20:12] <dr_willis> you can use a xbmc remote app on your phone.
[20:12] <biberao> gordonDrogon: i have a tv
[20:13] <biberao> dr_willis: my phone
[20:13] <biberao> is an old phone
[20:13] <biberao> llo
[20:13] <biberao> dr_willis: raspbmc doesnt use X'
[20:13] <bparker> biberao: you just want to have xbmc start when your rpi starts up?
[20:13] <bparker> I don't quite understand what you want
[20:13] <biberao> ya for now
[20:13] <biberao> bparker:
[20:13] <bparker> ok
[20:13] <dr_willis> i got a $8 pc remote that works. then i realized my samsung remote ALSO WORKS.. with that remotes IR reciever
[20:13] <biberao> i want to be able to access my movies for now
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[20:14] <biberao> dr_willis: but i need ir on the pi
[20:14] <biberao> which i dont have?
[20:14] <dr_willis> i got the xbmc to work as a upnp server also
[20:15] <gordonDrogon> 28 minutes until I get my internet back )-:
[20:15] <dr_willis> biberao: like $8 on amazon ;)
[20:15] <biberao> dr_willis: it will be a lot more
[20:15] <biberao> dr_willis: give me a model
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[20:16] <dr_willis> biberao: its at home. and im not. dident see a brand on it last night either. but i did post the 'id#' off the box last night here in the channel
[20:17] <dr_willis> pc remote mouse control - is about the only name on the box. ;) let me look at my amazon history
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[20:20] <biberao> hey
[20:20] <nahmaste> has anyone tried installing the xmbc package in raspbian? does it work out of the box?
[20:20] <biberao> who had no problems with dhgate.com?
[20:21] <DeliriumTremens> nahmaste: it's not suggested
[20:21] <DeliriumTremens> try openelec, raspbmc, etc
[20:21] <nahmaste> DeliriumTremens: well, i want xbmc to run alongside advancemame/menu which i have installed and working in raspbian
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[20:22] <dr_willis> sanoxy pc remote control $8 on amazon.. i think is the one...
[20:22] <DeliriumTremens> i had retropie w/ emulationstation working in raspbmc
[20:22] <DeliriumTremens> including MAME
[20:23] <DeliriumTremens> (i also had snes, nes, 2600)
[20:23] <nahmaste> DeliriumTremens: did you compile from source or use the retropie binary mode of installation
[20:23] <dr_willis> theres Openelec, raspmb, and one other i was testing out.. i forget its name. Xbian perhaps?
[20:23] <DeliriumTremens> i used the retropie menu driven install to compile the components
[20:23] <nahmaste> ive had problems with retropie on raspbian, segfaults from emulationstation and other craziness
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[20:24] <DeliriumTremens> ??\_(???)_/??
[20:24] <DeliriumTremens> i had it working, but didnt want to exit XBMC to use the emulators
[20:24] <DeliriumTremens> tried getting Rom Collection Browser plugin to work to launch roms from insie XBMC but it would work right
[20:24] <DeliriumTremens> so i gave up on the whole damn thing
[20:24] <DeliriumTremens> wouldnt*
[20:25] <DeliriumTremens> man i cant type today
[20:25] <nahmaste> yeah i dont want to run emulation from inside xbmc for performance reasons, i want to run from cli
[20:25] <nahmaste> or advmemu
[20:25] <DeliriumTremens> well, theoretically it's supposed to exit XBMC then run the emulator, and when then relaunch xbmc after the emulator quits
[20:25] <nahmaste> anyway, so you say raspbmc + retropie with compilation eh? ill give it a try
[20:26] <DeliriumTremens> i guarantee it isn't going to work the first time you try to compile or run it ;)
[20:26] <DeliriumTremens> it will take some tweaking
[20:26] <DeliriumTremens> i got sam to put some things back into the kernel that were needed by emulationstation
[20:26] <DeliriumTremens> but i dont know if he's since removed them again
[20:27] <DeliriumTremens> nahmaste: DO NOT UPGRADE RAPSMB OR ALLOW RETROPIE TO UPGRADE IT
[20:27] <dr_willis> ;)
[20:28] <RoyK> goodie - custom power holds 5V precise - none of that USB power shite
[20:28] <nahmaste> DeliriumTremens: i havent used raspbmc before... is it apt-based?
[20:28] <DeliriumTremens> yes
[20:28] <DeliriumTremens> but dont upgrade
[20:28] <DeliriumTremens> you can update
[20:28] <DeliriumTremens> but upgrade will break it
[20:28] <nahmaste> ok, so i can just remove that from the retropie script
[20:29] <nahmaste> thats the problem i was having with retropie in raspbian i believe
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[20:29] <nahmaste> every time ive done an upgrade, it breaks something
[20:30] <nahmaste> DeliriumTremens: what version of raspbmc did you get it working with? latest?
[20:30] <DeliriumTremens> ah it's been about 6 weeks
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[20:31] <DeliriumTremens> getting it to work wasn't TOO terrible
[20:31] <DeliriumTremens> i had to git the kernel pieces
[20:31] <DeliriumTremens> but they might be in there now by default
[20:32] <TAFB_nappin> i'ma have a nap. back in a bit. in the meantime you can fondle my autorefresh stats page: http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[20:32] <gordonDrogon> I would if my internet connection doesn't time out.
[20:33] <TAFB_nappin> sucks about your internet, it can only get better, right? ;)
[20:33] <gordonDrogon> a, made it. 28C? Nah... must be wrong..
[20:33] <TAFB_nappin> it's 28c :)
[20:33] <TAFB_nappin> aluminum case
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[20:33] <gordonDrogon> yea, I'm uploadung another GB video file to youtube and I can't yet shape IPv6.
[20:33] <TAFB_nappin> put on it's side, where my air intake is for my computer.
[20:33] <TAFB_nappin> keeps fresh air going over it.
[20:33] <gordonDrogon> ok
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[20:34] <TAFB_nappin> plus, it snowed here today, so the heat is turned down. room temp is 21c right now :(
[20:34] <gordonDrogon> should have turned off ipv6, but I forgot.
[20:34] <TAFB_nappin> damn v6
[20:35] <gordonDrogon> good v6. just a lack of tools.
[20:35] <TAFB_nappin> lol
[20:35] <TAFB_nappin> alright, nap time. back in a bit :) be safe
[20:35] <gordonDrogon> I might have to sit down and write it myself, but it's a few years since I looked at the linux traffic shaping stuff..
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[20:37] <biberao> i should get an android phone
[20:37] <biberao> :|
[20:37] <biberao> if i have an android phone
[20:37] <biberao> how can i control the pi
[20:37] <gordonDrogon> what do you have now?
[20:37] <biberao> through web server?
[20:37] <biberao> a lg cookie
[20:37] <biberao> wifi
[20:37] <gordonDrogon> how do you want to control it?
[20:38] <gordonDrogon> I use a keyboard myself...
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[20:39] <biberao> gordonDrogon: i dont have an usb keyboard
[20:39] <biberao> gotta buy one
[20:39] <biberao> ;)
[20:40] <gordonDrogon> ssh into it from another pc.. ?
[20:41] <ParkerR_> Gotta love the quirks of English. With a u it's a instead of an. A USB flash drive. An USB flash drive.
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[20:42] <biberao> gordonDrogon: i will
[20:42] <biberao> ParkerR_: really?
[20:42] <biberao> im not english
[20:42] <biberao> gordonDrogon: so ssh -X will do fine?
[20:43] <ParkerR_> biberao, Yeah there are the exceptions that nobody is really ever taught
[20:43] <biberao> so an usb is wrong
[20:43] <ParkerR_> Yeah :(
[20:44] <biberao> when is "an" used?
[20:44] <ParkerR_> Other vowels
[20:44] <ParkerR_> An octops
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[20:45] <biberao> so a e i o -> an
[20:45] <biberao> thanks ParkerR_
[20:45] <ParkerR_> Pretty much. Sometimes if it is an eu like eulogy it's a eulogy
[20:46] <ParkerR_> Because of the u sound
[20:46] <biberao> A union**
[20:46] <biberao> **.Union. starts with a vowel; however, the initial .u. makes more of a .y. sound, which counts as a consonant in this case.
[20:46] <rikkib> an honorable discharge... There is an exception
[20:46] <ParkerR_> rikkib, Always
[20:46] <biberao> here in english classes
[20:46] <biberao> they dont teach that
[20:46] <ParkerR_> English (and many other languages) have their quirks
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[20:47] <biberao> you shouldnt learn my language
[20:47] <biberao> .P
[20:47] <rikkib> Maori is a tricky language
[20:48] <biberao> gordonDrogon: when i run ssh -X
[20:48] <biberao> do i need my own x server too?
[20:48] <dr_willis> a x server does not need to run on the machine you are sshing to. ;)
[20:48] <biberao> i mean one for pi and one for my pc? And i can close my X and run a movie for example
[20:49] <dr_willis> whats going to display the movie?
[20:49] <biberao> the pi
[20:49] <biberao> 19:48 <+dr_willis> a x server does not need to run on the machine you are sshing to. ;)
[20:49] <biberao> you sure?
[20:49] <dr_willis> and.. what program?
[20:49] <biberao> the pi must be running
[20:49] <biberao> dr_willis: i dont know
[20:49] <biberao> any to run watch movies
[20:49] <biberao> lol
[20:49] <ParkerR_> omxplayer
[20:50] <dr_willis> you need a x server on the local box to display x apps that are runnong on the remote box
[20:50] <dr_willis> i thought omxplayer used the framebuffer
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[20:50] <ParkerR_> dr_willis, I was suggesting a way for him to watch a movie without x
[20:51] <biberao> dr_willis: ill explain again
[20:51] <biberao> i want to execute X apps on the pi from ssh
[20:51] <dr_willis> if omxplayer can use the framebuffer it could do it without x
[20:51] <ParkerR_> And have it run on X on the Pi? I think I know how
[20:51] <biberao> so ssh -X will do the trick
[20:52] <dr_willis> X forwarding requires a x server on the local machine to display the apps
[20:52] <ParkerR_> biberao, There are a couple of exports you can do so you can run an X program via SSH and have it display on the Pi
[20:52] <dr_willis> for a local lan you may want ssh -Y not X also
[20:52] <pksato> biberao: ssh -Y or ssh -Y run app on RPi and display on local X server.
[20:52] <biberao> i dont want to display on local
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[20:53] <biberao> i just want the pi to run it
[20:53] <biberao> and display it on the tv
[20:53] <dr_willis> biberao: which pi?
[20:53] <dr_willis> you are not being clear. ;)
[20:53] <biberao> now you confused me
[20:53] <pksato> run on RPi and display on computer when ssh is initiate conection.
[20:53] <biberao> i want to run the movie player on the pi
[20:53] <dr_willis> you want to remote controll the pi player from a 2nd machine?
[20:53] <biberao> pksato: i dont have a keyboard
[20:53] <biberao> dr_willis: yes
[20:54] <pksato> what?
[20:54] <ParkerR_> biberao, export DISPLAY=:0
[20:54] <dr_willis> vlc has a cli interface you can ssh into
[20:54] <ParkerR_> In the SSH session
[20:54] <dr_willis> no needc to export or x forward
[20:54] <ParkerR_> The if you run an X rogram in SSH it should display on the Pi
[20:54] <pksato> omxplayer dont need X
[20:54] <ParkerR_> *Then
[20:54] <dr_willis> the video player runs on the remote.. no x forwarding
[20:55] <biberao> yes
[20:55] <biberao> everything will run on the remote
[20:55] <pksato> just run omxplayer on ssh shell. and video is displayed on monitor connected on RPi.
[20:55] <ParkerR_> dr_willis, pksato you are the only ones to mention x forwarding. biberao never said anything about that
[20:55] <biberao> pksato: for real?
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[20:55] <pksato> YES.
[20:55] <ParkerR_> biberao, Yes
[20:56] <pksato> I not a first person what said it.
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[20:56] <ParkerR_> omxplayer -o hdmi somevideo.something
[20:56] <pksato> Try...
[20:57] <pksato> and see who happen.
[20:57] <RoyK> anyone here running pywws on their pi?
[20:58] <biberao> ParkerR_: what about rca
[20:58] <biberao> pksato: i havent got the pi yet
[20:58] <biberao> its coming tomorrow
[20:58] <pksato> biberao: got a pi first.
[20:58] <biberao> its coming tomorrow pksato :p
[20:58] <pksato> all answer come with.
[20:59] <biberao> hey one last question
[20:59] <biberao> instead of hdmi
[20:59] <biberao> ill also have to configure wifi
[21:00] <biberao> i mean for hdmi i type omxplayer -o
[21:01] <ParkerR_> omxplayer --help when you get the Pi up and running
[21:01] <pksato> all answer come with RPi on hands.
[21:01] <ParkerR_> It explains it
[21:01] <Armand> I have a friend designing an arduino-controlled backup power switcher. :D
[21:01] <biberao> cool
[21:01] <biberao> thanks guys
[21:01] <biberao> and dinenr time ok
[21:01] <biberao> thanks
[21:01] <pksato> and new questions.
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[21:05] <dr_willis> we will be hideing.. ;)
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[21:17] <confusid> the ribbon cabled used to attach a bread board is it a standard floppy cable?
[21:17] <IT_Sean> GPIO?
[21:17] <IT_Sean> Yeah, you can use a standard gloppy cable.
[21:17] <confusid> I think so
[21:17] <IT_Sean> *floppy
[21:17] <confusid> ty
[21:17] <IT_Sean> aye.
[21:18] <IT_Sean> Quiet in here tonight.
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[21:20] <pksato> confusid: floppy cable is wide 34pins, but, can fit on GPIO header.
[21:20] <pksato> and a 40vias IDE cable. (dont use 80 via)
[21:21] <confusid> ok
[21:21] <pksato> a paralel port header to DB25 cabe have 26pins, but only 25 wires.
[21:21] <IT_Sean> The floppy cable can be iffy, as they usually have one or more of the holes blocked.
[21:22] <IT_Sean> err IDE rahter
[21:22] <IT_Sean> Floppy is the way to go.
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[21:23] <pksato> another day I find a sound and game port cable with 26pins and wires.
[21:23] <IT_Sean> If the pitch is correct, that could work.
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[21:25] <pksato> Can find these cables on computer repair shop.
[21:26] <confusid> http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14391
[21:26] <confusid> foundone here
[21:26] <pksato> free cables.
[21:32] <pksato> http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/3074/ppcable00.jpg
[21:33] <IT_Sean> just be CAREFUL that none of those are bridged to ground!
[21:34] <pksato> DB25 side are GND (18-25) bridged.
[21:34] <IT_Sean> that would be bad, then
[21:35] <pksato> or not, need to check.
[21:35] <IT_Sean> yeah, check.
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[21:35] <IT_Sean> if all those are bridged to ground, you could fry the pi, as you would effectivly be shorting together pins that aught not be shorted.
[21:35] <pksato> and pin26 dont have wire.
[21:36] <futrzak> hello, is anyone using Occidentals on 512MB rpi?
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[21:37] <dr_willis> never heard of occidentals. ;-)
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[21:37] <futrzak> sorry :P
[21:37] <futrzak> you know what I mean
[21:37] <futrzak> the problem is that it uses only 256MB of my 512MB
[21:38] <futrzak> should I do some extra magic to make it use full available memory?
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[21:38] <dr_willis> hmm. you mean it splits video/cpu? thats in that one config file to tweak
[21:39] <pksato> futrzak: firmware and kernel musb be upgraded
[21:39] <futrzak> I am aware of that but still I have got a total of 256MB available to split between GPU and CPU
[21:40] <futrzak> how can I upgrade it? I did apt-get upgrade and raspi-update
[21:40] <pksato> need a full-upgrade
[21:41] <pksato> and, check date of /boot files
[21:41] <futrzak> but won't that upgrade my kernel from raspbian repository? I need 1-wire
[21:42] <pksato> futrzak: from occidentals. think.
[21:42] <pksato> check /etc/apt/source.list
[21:42] <axion> futrzak: /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd version
[21:43] <futrzak> it's just raspian source
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[21:43] <axion> that will tell you the version you have
[21:44] <futrzak> error while loading shared libraries: libvcos.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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[21:44] <axion> what is the contents of the file /etc/ld.so.conf?
[21:44] <futrzak> include /etc/ld.so.conf.d/*.conf
[21:45] <axion> add this line to it somewhere: /opt/vc/lib
[21:45] <axion> then save and type ldconfig as root
[21:45] <axion> and retry the above command
[21:46] <Kisume> "Your Raspberry Pi Order 1010XXXXXX has been Dispatched"
[21:46] <Kisume> I am so happy.
[21:46] <futrzak> there is a file 00-vmcs.conf in the /etc/ld.so.conf.d
[21:46] <futrzak> and it contains the path you mention
[21:47] <futrzak> i did ldconfig to be sure - nothing changed
[21:47] <axion> then your firmwae is missing libraries
[21:47] <axion> update it for sure
[21:47] <axion> this is why i dont use 1-device distributions
[21:48] <futrzak> well if 1-wire would work under clean raspbian I would stick to it
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[21:48] <biberao> pipip
[21:49] <Kisume> Okay so now the final thing I need to purchase is a proper SD card.
[21:49] <Kisume> Do speed classes matter a whole lot?
[21:49] <axion> well it depends
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[21:49] <axion> speed classes measure the throughput of seuential r/w
[21:50] <axion> class 10 means it can acheive at least 10 MB/s
[21:50] <futrzak> which debian package is raspberry firmware?
[21:50] <axion> but thatsastream of data
[21:50] <futrzak> what's its name?
[21:50] <axion> for a rootfs, this can actually be slower
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[21:51] <axion> futrzak: no clue. i stick to Arch Linux
[21:51] <futrzak> does it make use of 1-wire?
[21:51] * axion googles this term
[21:52] <axion> if debian can, arch can. its the same linux kernel with a different userspace.
[21:52] <ParkerR_> futrzak, There isn't one
[21:52] <pksato> futrzak: some 1-wire devices are supported on stok kernel.
[21:53] <ParkerR_> futrzak, https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update/
[21:53] <axion> so yes
[21:53] <ParkerR_> That will update the firmware
[21:54] <futrzak> ok, i'll try to update it thank you for the tip
[21:54] <Kisume> I see.
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[21:54] <Kisume> I've read up a bit and sequential r/w speed != random r/w speed.
[21:54] <Kisume> So it shouldn't matter much.
[21:54] <axion> Arch keeps an up to date firmware automatically
[21:54] <axion> Kisume: right
[21:54] <frikinz> and what's raspberrypi-bootloader ?
[21:54] <futrzak> pksato is there w1-therm module in stock kernel?
[21:54] <axion> thats why it does matter
[21:55] <Kisume> Guess I'll be buying a 8GB SD for the OS, and an external (powered) hard disk for data storage.
[21:55] <Kisume> Should suffice, I recon.
[21:55] <Kisume> Although I could easily go for 32GB or so...
[21:55] <confusid> Kisume: I have a 500gb usb hard drive.. usb powered and its plugged into a 4port usb powered hub.. works well
[21:56] <Kisume> Great, I also have a 500GB (WD) hard disk here. Which is already powered by default.
[21:56] <Kisume> So it wouldn't even need a hub.
[21:56] <Kisume> Going for headless mode, so this is an advantage. :)
[21:56] <confusid> :)
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[21:57] <pksato> filename: /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/drivers/w1/wire.ko description: Driver for 1-wire Dallas network protocol.
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[21:59] <futrzak> could you ls /lib/modules/2.6.32-5-amd64/kernel/drivers/w1 ?
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[21:59] <biberao> im getting a hub
[21:59] <biberao> soon
[22:00] <pksato> masters ds2482.ko ds2490.ko matrox_w1.ko
[22:00] <pksato> slaves w1_bq27000.ko w1_ds2433.ko w1_smem.ko w1_ds2431.ko w1_ds2760.ko w1_therm.ko
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[22:02] <futrzak> worth trying on stock kernel
[22:03] <futrzak> I need to make a few DS18B20 work
[22:03] <futrzak> however I don't see w1-gpio module in your files
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[22:04] <futrzak> there is one in my occidentalis kernel
[22:04] <SuperLag> what kinds of things can you use the GPIO for?
[22:04] <SuperLag> clear
[22:04] <SuperLag> doh
[22:04] <SuperLag> wrong tab
[22:04] <pksato> futrzak: but, I think, you need a low level driver to use 1-wire via GPIO.
[22:05] <futrzak> I belive there is one called w1-gpio.ko
[22:05] <futrzak> in here /lib/modules/3.1.9adafruit+/kernel/drivers/w1/masters/
[22:09] <Kisume> So, should I buy an 1.3 HDMI cable?
[22:09] <Kisume> I can't find 1.3a locally.
[22:09] <pksato> better, ask adafruit about 512MB
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[22:09] <Kisume> Is there a noticable difference? I won't even use the screen much...
[22:09] <CelticTurnip> morning all
[22:09] <Kisume> Only for configuring stuff. I still prefer SSH though.
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[22:13] <pksato> Any fast mirror to download Occidentalis ?
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[22:15] <futrzak> I downloaded it from official page. It was quite fast.
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[22:15] <pksato> Is very very slow for me, 20kB/s
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[22:16] <Dr_Willis_> Hmm trying to wget it.. forbidden. 403 :)
[22:19] <pksato> wget --referer=http://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-raspberry-pi-educational-linux-distro/occidentalis-v0-dot-2 http://adafruit-raspberry-pi.s3.amazonaws.com/Occidentalisv02.zip
[22:19] <pksato> eta 13h 6m
[22:19] <CelticTurnip> nice and fast :)
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[22:19] <Dr_Willis_> 1.3MB/S eta 6 Min
[22:19] <terraforma> So I think I've got an acceptable PSU. There isn't much info available on different cables, unfortunately. Does anyone know if this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003ES5ZSW should work?
[22:20] <Dr_Willis_> Im using my Kindle Fire power supply
[22:20] <futrzak> And I am using my phone charger
[22:21] <futrzak> it's only 700mA but it works fine
[22:21] <terraforma> I tried a Fire charger and it did not work
[22:21] <Dr_Willis_> I had some phone chargers that did .7A which was not enough.. but i did have some wifi and usb hds plugged in
[22:21] <Dr_Willis_> Got some 2 chargers of the Travelocity brand for $8 that seem tow ork
[22:22] <terraforma> The Fire charger wouldn't cut it even with nothing but a wireless keyboard attatched
[22:22] <Dr_Willis_> odd. Mines working good. Its 2A
[22:23] <pksato> http://dx.com/p/5v-2a-regulated-switching-power-supply-110-220v-94518
[22:23] <terraforma> Mine is 1.7WA but still, no dice
[22:23] <terraforma> s/WA/A
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[22:24] <futrzak> wow pksato.. it's quite big. Isn't it too much?
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[22:25] <pksato> Dimensions: 2.76 in x 1.50 in x 1.22 in (7.0 cm x 3.8 cm x 3.1 cm)
[22:26] <futrzak> I meant the power :)
[22:26] <terraforma> alright, I guess I'll just have to get it and see what happens
[22:27] <Dr_Willis_> ya got to wire in your own plug? ;) I got a spare one with a built in switch.. that could be handy
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[22:27] <TAFB> yummm, love naps.
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[22:28] <Dr_Willis_> What if you used one of those largeish battery 'usb power packs' for cell phones. would they give more consistant power?
[22:28] <Kisume> Does anyone own a case from RS?
[22:28] <mbalho> has anyone scripted their usb wifi card to auto join open networks? i see lotsa approaches on google but was wondering if anyone had one they liked
[22:28] <futrzak> I do
[22:28] <futrzak> the black one
[22:28] <Dr_Willis_> I got one today that weighs like a pound. :) it should run the pi for several hours/days. with a power supply to it.. it could work as a UPS even. ;)
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[22:29] <mbalho> also I found a raspi case on thingiverse, downloaded it into tinkercad and modified it and then 3d printed it yesterday! so much fun! http://www.thingiverse.com/thing:38462
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[22:30] <TAFB> my Pi runs on solar power, with battery backup :) The solar panel is USB, the battery backup is USB, everything works peachy :)
[22:30] <TAFB> solar panel: http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/4930/img3067p.jpg
[22:30] <Kisume> Is the RS case any good?
[22:31] <Kisume> Also, that's really cool TAFB.
[22:31] <TAFB> Kisume: Did you see my case? http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[22:31] <futrzak> I think the case is very good, well made and pretty too :)
[22:31] <Kisume> That's really pretty TAFB, albeit a bit over my budget.
[22:32] <TAFB> Kisume: I know :( sucks it's so expensive
[22:32] <mbalho> TAFB: whered you buy the panel?
[22:32] <TAFB> did you see the rainbow case on adafruit? I thought it was neat.
[22:32] <TAFB> mbalho: I bought it from this guy: http://www.cpfmarketplace.com/mp/showthread.php?229002-FS-Solar-Powered-amp-USB-Chargers-2-panels-added
[22:32] <Kisume> Ah, great. I ordered a clear one since it seems I'll have to put my Pi in the meter cupboard, which is extremely dusty.
[22:32] <mbalho> sweet thanks
[22:32] <Kisume> Or I might have to go for WiFi...
[22:32] <Kisume> Still undecided, actually.
[22:32] <TAFB> mbalho: He build me a whole system, solar runs the Pi and charges a usb "battery box". Once the solar gets too low it offloads the Pi to the battery box.
[22:33] <TAFB> Kisume: Some wifi adapters draw too much power for the Pi's USB ports, so you might have to hotwire them to make it work.
[22:33] <mbalho> TAFB: do you live in a sunny place? how long does it take to chage the battery box up?
[22:33] <Kisume> I see... surprising.
[22:33] <Kisume> A powered hub would suffice, not?
[22:33] <TAFB> Kisume: My WiFi Pi: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-09-RaspberryPi_is_finished.jpg
[22:34] <Kisume> That looks neat.
[22:34] <TAFB> Kisume: Yep, powered hubs work awesome with the Pi ;)
[22:34] <Kisume> Awesome! Thanks for the advice, I'll surely keep it in mind.
[22:34] <Dr_Willis_> its a little hard to find powerd usb hubs. :) at least in the local stores.
[22:35] <Dr_Willis_> compared to all the gimmicky UNpowerd hubs i saw yesterday
[22:35] <TAFB> mbalho: I live in Canada, this time of year the quality of the sun sucks. The panel puts out a mind blowing 1.6 amps of current in full sun, it'll charge the 4 x 18650 (3600mah batteries) in about 3 to 4 hours if not powering the Pi, or around 6 when the Pi is running too.
[22:36] <mbalho> whoa thats great
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[22:36] <Kisume> I live in The Netherlands, not very sunny here.
[22:37] <futrzak> TAFB does the voltage drop if sun is low?
[22:37] <TAFB> Kisume: Yeah, solar powered goodies work really well close to the equator, and worse the farther from it.
[22:37] <Dr_Willis_> In indiana here :) so it depends on the time of year.
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[22:38] <TAFB> futrzak: Ummm, kinda. It's 5 volts regulated, so it'll always try and put out 5v. But if the current exceeds the available current then the voltage will drop. Even super cloudy day, zero sun, the panel still ran the Pi at a perfect 5v but did not charge up the batteries fully during the day.
[22:38] <mhz> i wonder if anyone has taken a dynamo bicycle hub and used it to pedal power their pi
[22:38] <mhz> ha ha , it takes 1000calories to read my email :P
[22:38] <mbalho> mhz: that would be awesome, i would build one
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[22:40] <futrzak> does the solar work inside house during the day?
[22:41] <Dr_Willis_> I tried a small solar panel to charge my phone.. dident make enough juice. :) but this was indoors in a factory with floresant lights all over the place.
[22:41] <TAFB> futrzak: not unless you're under bright lights, like growing lights for marijuana maybe. Under florscent or energy saving bulbs, nope, it might run a calculator but that's it ;)
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[22:42] <futrzak> it sound like quite good perpetuum mobile :)
[22:43] <futrzak> only at day :|
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[22:45] <xorrbit> morning
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[22:46] <xorrbit> I'm hooking an lcd to the rpi gpio. My question is how is the ripple coming off the 3.3v on the gpio, can I omit a smoothing cap?
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[22:50] <gordonDrogon> xorrbit, yes, if you need to.
[22:50] <gordonDrogon> xorrbit, sure it's a problem? Actually curious about the display - backlit? There's not much mA avalable on the 3.3v supply...
[22:51] <xorrbit> not backlit, drives it fine on my prototype
[22:51] <xorrbit> hmm, how many mA do you figure? model B 1.0
[22:51] <xorrbit> like, how much available on the 3.3v
[22:52] <xorrbit> fyi, crappy picture of the prototype: https://twitter.com/xorrbit/status/279855378773184512/photo/1
[22:52] <TAFB> ohhhhhh nice
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[22:52] <TAFB> I wanna rig up and eInk display to the Pi :)
[22:53] <xorrbit> yeah I just need something so I can see the dhcp address it grabs from the network
[22:53] <ReggieUK> sprite_tm did a very nice hack for an lcd to a raspberry pi
[22:53] <TAFB> xorrbit: That's a sweet sweet setup :)
[22:53] <xorrbit> no more hooking up an hdmi device just to find out the ip :P
[22:53] <ReggieUK> + oled screen
[22:53] <TAFB> Like you need to know the cpu temp ;) lol
[22:53] <ReggieUK> https://spritesmods.com/?art=rpi_arcade
[22:54] <ReggieUK> there are 2 screens in that thing hooked to the pi
[22:54] <xorrbit> this is a 3.3v spi lcd 84x48 1bpp (nokia 5110 with a pcd8544 controller), technically it has a backlight but I'm not using it
[22:54] <xorrbit> oh that is cool
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[22:55] <ReggieUK> just throwing it out there as the whole thing is a really nice hack
[22:55] <ReggieUK> even the amp in it
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[22:55] <xorrbit> yeah, very cool
[22:56] <DDave> xorrbit, what screen is that? :)
[22:56] <xorrbit> nokia 5110
[22:56] <DDave> whops, I Should read before i write. Sorry :D
[22:56] <TAFB> xorrbit: what command gets your the cpu use %?
[22:56] <xorrbit> same as this one https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10168 but I got it from some sketchy aliexpress vendor for much cheaper :P
[22:57] <DDave> :D
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[22:57] <TAFB> i love aliexpress, order ish from there like every day. never know when you're gonna get the stuff, it's like christmas every week!
[22:57] <xorrbit> TAFB: ugh, basically extracted from top -bn2
[22:57] <xorrbit> cpu usage is tricky
[22:57] <xorrbit> but that gives me numbers I'm happy with
[22:57] <TAFB> xorrbit: Yeah, I know :(
[22:58] <TAFB> I've been trying to get the actual total usage of the cpu, without much luck.
[22:58] <xorrbit> idle=`top -bn2 | grep %Cpu | tail -n1 | sed 's/^.*ni, *//g' | cut -d' ' -f1`
[22:58] <DDave> I got a nokia 2330 I could tear apart..hmmmm :D
[22:58] <TAFB> Did you see my top 10 cpu hogs on my status page?
[22:58] <xorrbit> cpu=$(echo 100.0 - $idle | bc)
[22:58] <xorrbit> those two lines are in a bash script I'm calling
[22:58] <xorrbit> it takes like 2 seconds to run
[22:58] <xorrbit> but gives a pretty good idea of usage
[22:58] <TAFB> nice. Check out my top10 cpu hogs: http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[22:58] <xorrbit> oh that is very cool
[22:59] <futrzak> running top uses a lot of cpu
[22:59] <futrzak> so using it won't be verry accurate
[22:59] <xorrbit> that's why I do -n2
[22:59] <TAFB> xorrbit: thanks :) I did a lot of the coding myself, for the top 10 cpu hogs, and memory hogs :)
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[22:59] <xorrbit> it kinda mitigates top's usage
[23:00] <xorrbit> enough for me anyways
[23:00] <xorrbit> 28.2C
[23:00] <futrzak> is it acronym for 'nice'?
[23:00] <xorrbit> I've never seen my pi less than like 43C
[23:00] <xorrbit> you have active cooling on it or something?
[23:01] <TAFB> xorrbit: When I run your script, it says my cpu usage is .7, just like your twitter pic :(
[23:01] <TAFB> I know for sure PHP is using lots right now cause I have it in a loop
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[23:01] <xorrbit> is it tho
[23:01] <xorrbit> let top run for a few seconds
[23:01] <[SLB]> xorrbit, what drivers are you using for that display? i'm using binerry's PCD8544, but time to time they fail
[23:01] <xorrbit> php could be waiting on io or who knows what
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[23:02] <xorrbit> I'm using binerry's as well
[23:02] <xorrbit> sometimes I get glitches too
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[23:02] <[SLB]> like lines shifting progressively?
[23:02] <[SLB]> i have a pic i think, moment
[23:02] <xorrbit> yeah something like that
[23:03] <[SLB]> oh :\
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[23:03] <xorrbit> I'd like to try and get it running using the spi peripheral, but that's for another day
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[23:03] <xorrbit> bitbanging works fine for my purposes for now :p
[23:04] <[SLB]> here it's working http://goo.gl/Ftjnj here it's not http://goo.gl/G9gx7
[23:04] <TAFB> xorrbit: Check out this command, I think if you added up the numbers in the left column, you'd have a way better number for total CPU usage: ps -e -o pcpu,cpu,nice,state,cputime,args --sort pcpu | sed '/^ 0.0 /d' | cut -c1-70
[23:05] <[SLB]> so at least i know it's not just me
[23:05] <xorrbit> yes mine goes basically that
[23:05] <xorrbit> *does
[23:05] <[SLB]> i see :\ thanks
[23:05] <xorrbit> I'm guessing it's a timing thing because bitbanging
[23:05] <xorrbit> haven't hooked up my scope yet
[23:06] * GentileBen is now known as AndreTheProvost
[23:06] <asaru> slb, very nice
[23:06] <xorrbit> TAFB: nice, thanks
[23:06] <[SLB]> yes i think so too
[23:06] <[SLB]> thanks asaru
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[23:06] <xorrbit> I don't have my pi here right now (at work :P) so I'll try it out tonight
[23:06] <asaru> is that over gpio?
[23:06] <rikkib> Hmmm seem to be having stability issues with my web cam... No errors. Just drops off.
[23:06] <asaru> serial console?
[23:07] <[SLB]> gpio
[23:07] <rikkib> I have slapped a PL2303 usb-serial on the RPi... Works ok
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[23:08] <TAFB> xorrbit: No problem, it uses next to no CPU to run that command to, vs. top ;)
[23:09] <xorrbit> awesome
[23:09] <TAFB> if you figure out a way to add up the left column and spit out the total number, be sure to share :)
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[23:11] <xenophile> anyone have any feelings with 1080p video over smb via wifi on the pi?
[23:11] <xenophile> or good experiences?
[23:12] <xzr> doesn't sound like a likely enjoyable scenario
[23:12] <xzr> :D
[23:12] <Hexxeh> xenophile: probably doable
[23:12] <Hexxeh> oh wait, wifi, hmm
[23:12] <Hexxeh> depends entirely on the quality of the link
[23:12] <xenophile> with all audio off i can hear my storage, and would rather leave it in the other room
[23:12] <Hexxeh> a decent wifi chip and AP, should be fine
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[23:12] <xzr> bandwidth-wise it's easily doable
[23:12] <xenophile> the nas is an older dell laptop with said usb storage
[23:13] <TAFB> hey Hexxeh :)
[23:13] <Hexxeh> holla.
[23:13] <xzr> but well, people are having difficulties with lan connections
[23:13] <xzr> :D
[23:13] <Hexxeh> if you're using omxplayer it should be fine
[23:13] <xenophile> ahh i will stick to usb then and just smb export the storage to my other toys
[23:13] <Hexxeh> if it's not working well, you're doing something wrong :)
[23:13] <TAFB> I saw there was a new wheezy image and got all excited for maybe a firmware update. lol. nope, Play Store :(
[23:13] <xenophile> i have raspbmc image and am tempted to go back to wheezy....
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[23:14] <advancednewbie> wheezy + omxplayer for the win
[23:14] <TAFB> I've only used wheezy so far, just for web and e-mail server :)
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[23:15] <xorrbit> ps -e -o pcpu,cpu,nice,state,cputime,args --sort pcpu | sed '/^ 0.0 /d' | cut -c1-70 | tail -n +2 | sed 's/ .*$//g' | sed '{:q;N;s/\n/ + /g;t q}' | bc
[23:15] <advancednewbie> I use wheezy to run a php interface for the arduino
[23:15] <xorrbit> TAFB: adds up first column ;)
[23:15] * TAFB fondles the command...
[23:15] <TAFB> -bash: bc: command not found
[23:16] * Jever (~Jever@unaffiliated/jever) Quit (Ping timeout: 244 seconds)
[23:16] <TAFB> and what is tail?
[23:16] <mhz> i was born with one
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[23:16] <TAFB> lol
[23:16] <xorrbit> tail -n +2 gives just cuts off the first line (with %CPU, etc headings)
[23:16] <mhz> tail and head
[23:17] <TAFB> nice
[23:17] <xorrbit> bc is a cli calculator
[23:17] <xorrbit> first sed rips off everything but the first column kinda
[23:17] <xorrbit> second sed replaces newlines with + for bc
[23:17] <TAFB> xorrbit: sudo apt-get install bx?
[23:17] <TAFB> bc
[23:17] <xorrbit> maybe
[23:17] <TAFB> insatlling...
[23:17] <mhz> just adding up all cpu time?
[23:18] <TAFB> mhz: yep
[23:18] <xorrbit> mhz: yup
[23:18] <TAFB> command worked...
[23:18] <TAFB> verifying results...
[23:18] * ReggieUK sets mode +b *!*@p57B1A8D3.dip.t-dialin.net
[23:18] <futrzak> After updating Occidentalis with apt-get dist-upgrade and rpi-update I can use full 512MB RAM and the 1-wire still working :)
[23:18] * scummos was kicked from #raspberrypi by ReggieUK
[23:18] <TAFB> WOOT! 16.3!% yay. I think that'll work a lot better for ya xorrbit! :)
[23:19] <xenophile> oh nifty tor is in the repository
[23:19] * ReggieUK sets mode -b+b *!*@p57B1A8D3.dip.t-dialin.net *!*scummos@*.dip.t-dialin.net
[23:19] <xorrbit> ps -e -o pcpu | tail -n +2 | sed '{:q;N;s/\n/ + /g;t q}' | bc
[23:19] <xorrbit> this one is more succint
[23:19] <xorrbit> does the same thing
[23:19] <TAFB> looks prettier
[23:19] <TAFB> gets same number
[23:19] <TAFB> i'm game
[23:19] <xorrbit> heh
[23:20] <xorrbit> multiple seds is dirty anyways
[23:20] <xorrbit> yay
[23:20] <TAFB> I use lots of head and cut and all kinds of stuff cause I dunno what I'm doin
[23:20] <xorrbit> collaboration ftw
[23:20] <TAFB> but it works ;)
[23:20] <xorrbit> yeah me too :P
[23:20] <xzr> sed makes my head hurt
[23:21] <TAFB> linux makes my head hurt
[23:21] <TAFB> i miss xwindows/lxde
[23:21] <TAFB> but putty is so much faster than VNC, what can ya do :)
[23:21] <xzr> linux puts food on the table, so I'll not start slandering
[23:21] <xzr> hating ubuntu though
[23:21] <xzr> :D
[23:21] <xorrbit> heh
[23:21] <TAFB> lol
[23:25] <TAFB> xorrbit: gunna find a spot to implement your command on my status page, like current CPU total load: :)
[23:25] <xorrbit> nice haha
[23:25] <xenophile> now what would be nice is to figure out how to drop xdm atop raspbmc, and get a second head
[23:25] <TAFB> man my status page is packed, not much room to queeze more stuff on there! lol
[23:26] <dr_willis> put a gps coller on the cat also. and have real time updates. ;-)
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[23:26] <TAFB> where am I ever going to fit my PiCam... maybe time for a new row :)
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[23:26] <dr_willis> cat cam!
[23:27] <dr_willis> a small webcam attatched to the cat.
[23:27] <mhz> hahah
[23:27] <mhz> i like this idea
[23:27] <mhz> action movie
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[23:28] <Ahmagahz> kina quiet in rasbian, will cross post here, scuse me: tryied to do "if config -a" in raspbian, and end up with just a > prompt... don't know how to exit that even.
[23:28] <mhz> ifconfig is the command
[23:28] <dr_willis> ive seen action cams that clip to a hat.
[23:29] <mhz> type ctrl-d
[23:29] <xenophile> Ahmagahz: yeah if is a shell builtin
[23:29] <mhz> the shell read your command as `if`
[23:29] <pksato> Ahmagahz: no space in ifconfig
[23:29] <dr_willis> the space is messng you up
[23:30] <Ahmagahz> ah! col
[23:30] <Ahmagahz> +o
[23:30] <Ahmagahz> whee, and ctrl-d is going to be useful i see :)
[23:30] <mhz> good for >>> prompt too ;)
[23:30] <Ahmagahz> excellent, that worked :)
[23:30] <Ahmagahz> many thanks
[23:31] <TAFB> Ahmagahz: At least that's the least of what they told you to run, when I first got here they deleted my boot partition :(
[23:31] <dr_willis> the > is bash asking for more commands to finish the if.
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[23:33] <rikkib> fi
[23:33] <rikkib> Maybe ;
[23:33] * rikkib is not shell user
[23:33] <rikkib> like that anyway
[23:35] <xenophile> wow this actually works http://forum.stmlabs.com/showthread.php?tid=1754
[23:35] <xenophile> i likey all of the deb variants more for the pi more and more
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[23:40] <TAFB> xorrbit: you still around?
[23:40] <xorrbit> yup
[23:41] <TAFB> check out my page: http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
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[23:41] <TAFB> I would like to get rid of the space between the number and the % sign
[23:41] <TAFB> (cpu load is above gauge)
[23:41] <TAFB> i looked in my php/html, and no spaces in there
[23:41] <TAFB> so it must be coming from the command
[23:41] <xorrbit> there's a newline in the html
[23:41] <xorrbit> actually a bunch of newlines
[23:42] <TAFB> lol
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[23:42] <TAFB> i have a "remove cr/lf" command for my php strings
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[23:42] <TAFB> I'll run that on it, see how it goes :)
[23:42] <xorrbit> okay
[23:43] <xorrbit> right now it's like <strong>...current cpu load: \n\n16.7\n%\n\n\n\n\n\n</strong>
[23:43] <TAFB> wow, yikes :) lol
[23:43] <xorrbit> heh
[23:43] <xorrbit> that's like
[23:43] <xorrbit> 7 bytes you could be saving
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[23:43] <xorrbit> :P
[23:43] <TAFB> i just ditched the animated 680k raspberry gif for the 20k png official logo, not too worried about 7 bytes ;)
[23:44] <xorrbit> haha yeah
[23:44] <TAFB> :
[23:44] <TAFB> )
[23:44] <xorrbit> one dev I work with uses one space tabs because it 'saves space in the source code'
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[23:44] <xorrbit> /facepalm
[23:44] <TAFB> $string = str_replace(array("\r", "\n"), ' ', $string);
[23:45] <TAFB> hmmm
[23:45] <TAFB> think it should be: $string = str_replace(array("\r", "\n"), '', $string);
[23:45] <TAFB> no space between the ' and '?
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[23:45] <xorrbit> I dunno
[23:45] <xorrbit> php is the devil
[23:45] <TAFB> k. testing.
[23:45] <mhz> if you're replacing it with a spcae
[23:45] <mhz> space
[23:45] <rikkib> Back to the drawing board for me I guess... Having installed a Rev 1 system with camera I now have to start again and make something go on a Rev 2 board.
[23:46] <TAFB> mhz: you sure space? I dun want space in the output :)
[23:46] <mhz> oh, that's php?
[23:46] <TAFB> yeah
[23:46] <TAFB> :)
[23:46] <mhz> no.clue.then.
[23:46] * rikkib is going to write the new wheezy image
[23:46] <xorrbit> your first problem is you're using php :)
[23:46] <TAFB> OHHHHHHH! That's what the green squared are in nano! cr/lf! never knew :)
[23:46] <TAFB> xorrbit: rofl :)
[23:47] <TAFB> it's all I know!
[23:47] <TAFB> i tried ruby
[23:47] <TAFB> might give python a go
[23:47] <mhz> python is fun
[23:47] <xorrbit> it's a spiffy dash to be sure
[23:47] <dr_willis> ;-) visible whitespaces....
[23:47] <xorrbit> but yeah python or ruby or golang would be much better :)
[23:47] <mhz> the thing i liked about python, the way i figured i'd type it to make it work, that worked in python syntax
[23:47] <mhz> heh
[23:47] <mhz> but that also makes for spaghetti script
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[23:49] <TAFB> dr_willis: I know, I'm workin on them :(
[23:50] <dr_willis> i liked the fte editor for console ussage. works well wuth gpm
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[23:51] <Joeboy> Anybody managed to tether a pi to an android phone?
[23:51] <xorrbit> "This Pi's locale is set to Canada"
[23:52] <xorrbit> TAFB: fellow canuck here, whereabouts are you?
[23:52] <Joeboy> My phone claims to be plugged into usb and has option to start tehering, then claims usb is not connected when I select the option
[23:52] <TAFB> xorrbit: near toronto, ontario :)
[23:52] <TAFB> WOOT! TAKE THAT WHITE SPACE! POOF! Man I code messy :(
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[23:53] <xorrbit> cool, I'm in Winnipeg, have some family out in Kingston tho
[23:53] <xorrbit> 17.0% usage, nice
[23:53] <TAFB> i think I still got some /n's in there
[23:53] <TAFB> cleanin still
[23:54] <xenophile> so i created a advancedlauncher entry for a shellscript. the shellscript works, but advanced launcher gives a "error script failed! addon.py" error. I remove advanced launcher, reboot and reinstall it, and my advanced launcher thinger for the shellscript still exists. how do i remove it?
[23:54] * Joeboy is putting way too much effort into not walking downstairs and plugging my pi into the router
[23:54] <xenophile> nevermind, mouse movement
[23:55] <futrzak> The Twin Peaks took place near Winnipeg, right?
[23:56] <futrzak> I mean near border on the US side
[23:56] <xorrbit> I don't think so
[23:56] <xorrbit> you might be thinking about Fargo :)
[23:57] <futrzak> no, no it was Twin Peaks near Canadian border
[23:57] <xenophile> was filmed in washington state
[23:57] <xenophile> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Peaks
[23:57] <futrzak> the Twin Peaks is not a real city
[23:57] <TAFB> xorrbit: is it possible that commands rounds at all? for some reason my CPU usage is always like xx.0 or xx.5? lol.
[23:58] <futrzak> but the story took place in a city near Canadian border
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[23:58] <TAFB> nevermind, musta been a fluke, just got 16.9 :)
[23:58] <xorrbit> I just refreshed and got 16.9%
[23:58] <xorrbit> haha yeah
[23:58] <TAFB> haha
[23:58] <TAFB> lol
[23:58] <TAFB> ok, all \n\r and white space is clean :)
[23:59] <TAFB> i have a feeling I should be using that command on all my shell_exec output :(
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