#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2012-12-20

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[0:05] <Torikun> Yo
[0:06] <Torikun> when I setup arch on my pi, I somehow turned off eth0 with systemd....HOw do I enabled eth0 at boot ?
[0:07] <dr_willis> hmm. i bet the arch wiki pages say.
[0:07] <dr_willis> not used arch in years.
[0:07] <Torikun> THis is a systemd thing
[0:08] <futrzak> ok, everybody, thanks for help and have a good night (or day)
[0:08] * futrzak yawning...
[0:10] * plugwash (~plugwash@cpc7-stkp7-2-0-cust208.10-2.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[0:10] <TAFB> nite nite
[0:10] * Leeky_afk is now known as Leeky
[0:11] <Torikun> Ah, figured it out! systemctl start dhcpcd@eth0.service
[0:11] <axion> or make the symbolic link you deleted yourself
[0:11] <Torikun> i disabled it
[0:11] <Torikun> http://bvanderveen.com/a/rpi-booted-static-ip-ssh/
[0:11] <Torikun> per that guide
[0:11] <axion> which deletes the link
[0:12] <Torikun> Yup
[0:12] <dr_willis> so obvious ;-)
[0:12] <dr_willis> not.....
[0:12] <Torikun> lol
[0:12] <Torikun> learning systemd
[0:13] <dr_willis> how quick is arch anyway? raspian is sluggish i find.
[0:13] <Torikun> dunno...
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[0:13] <Torikun> sure it sucks on all
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[0:17] <pksato> another cable suitable to use on GPIO http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/677/cable26vias.jpg
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[0:20] <dr_willis> looks like from a creative sound card
[0:20] <megaproxy> http://imgur.com/a/ZHjvQ < pure bodge
[0:20] <megaproxy> but it works REALLY well
[0:20] * Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk
[0:20] <rikkib> Uggg Card locks...
[0:20] <lee> anybody know if karl lattimer (of hotpi) frequents this channel?
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[0:21] <TAFB> mega, what's your temps?? see mine ;)
[0:21] <ShiftPlusOne> lee, haven't seen him... not being active at least.
[0:21] <TAFB> http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[0:21] <megaproxy> TAFB, atm, bout 32?
[0:21] <TAFB> nice. I'm 28.2 :)
[0:21] <megaproxy> bedserv.com/stats
[0:21] <megaproxy> wait.. i need to start pancake
[0:21] <megaproxy> is there a way to auto start it?
[0:21] <pksato> These cables are used on PI/K6 cpu main boards.
[0:21] <TAFB> mega: yep, one sec for link
[0:21] <rikkib> RPi got me again... Now wonder I was having trouble. Read only tab accidentally switched
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[0:22] <TAFB> megaproxy: http://dev.pp3345.net/pancake-init
[0:22] <megaproxy> my pi ip changed ?.?
[0:22] <ShiftPlusOne> TAFB, btw, if you're going to suggest people use your config, could you please warn them than it voids the warranty? I know you're not doing it now, but just in general.
[0:22] <megaproxy> must remember to assign dedicated ip
[0:22] <TAFB> megaproxy: put that text into http://dev.pp3345.net/pancake-init
[0:22] <TAFB> whops
[0:22] <TAFB> put that text into: /etc/init.d/pancake
[0:23] <TAFB> then sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/pancake
[0:23] <nahmaste> anyone know why the retropie script wants 128MB GPU ram during the installation? i would think that ram would be better used by the processor until everything is built?
[0:23] <lee> ShiftPlusOne: ta
[0:23] <TAFB> then sudo update-rc.d pancake defaults
[0:23] <lee> so happy HotPi is funded. I am very lazy.
[0:23] <TAFB> then she'll run on bootup ;)
[0:23] <TAFB> and you can start and stop pancake too
[0:23] <megaproxy> Oops! Google Chrome could not connect to
[0:23] <megaproxy> you know what i hate?
[0:23] <megaproxy> the virgin super hub..
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[0:24] <TAFB> to start: /etc/init.d/pancake start
[0:24] <TAFB> and obviously stop for stop
[0:24] <megaproxy> TAFB, ill have to bookmark
[0:24] <megaproxy> cant get on the router atm
[0:24] <TAFB> okies
[0:24] <megaproxy> its gone and derped itself again
[0:24] <megaproxy> i really should put it in modem mode and run a real router behind it..
[0:24] <TAFB> megaproxy: http://pastebin.com/FNtnqKzh
[0:25] <megaproxy> your a star!
[0:25] <TAFB> hehe thx :)
[0:25] <TAFB> lovin pancake so far :)
[0:25] <TAFB> i'm working on getting vhosts working today
[0:25] <megaproxy> oooh nice
[0:25] <megaproxy> plz2document
[0:25] <TAFB> then I can forward dns and port 80 baby! load time :)
[0:25] <megaproxy> as i will love to play with that
[0:25] <TAFB> will do
[0:26] <megaproxy> i just point my domain to my ip
[0:26] <megaproxy> as it very very very rarley changes
[0:26] <mhz> pancake php web server?
[0:26] <megaproxy> only time it changed, is when i moved house.
[0:26] <TAFB> mhz: that's the one
[0:26] * ReggieUK sets mode -b *!*@p57B1A609.dip.t-dialin.net
[0:26] * ReggieUK sets mode -b *!*scummos@*.dip.t-dialin.net
[0:26] <TAFB> mhz: https://github.com/pp3345/Pancake/wiki/My%20first%20Pancake
[0:27] <dr_willis> i like to eat pancakes....
[0:28] <mhz> nginx does too
[0:28] <TAFB> i like my pancakes with Pi ;)
[0:28] <TAFB> pancake eats nginx for breakfast for raw html/php performance :)
[0:28] <dr_willis> with cooked apples on top... :p
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[0:28] <TAFB> lol
[0:29] <mhz> i bet in less than 30lines of twisted, i could destroy pancake
[0:29] <dr_willis> now um hungry
[0:30] <dr_willis> gonna have to go to i.hop
[0:31] <TAFB> we dun got i.hop here :(
[0:31] <TAFB> there's a denny's down the street tho :)
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[0:32] <dr_willis> dennys closed down. so did dunken donuts.
[0:32] <megaproxy> im going to work much more on my 2u rpi case design soon :D
[0:32] <megaproxy> i wana get it to the state where anyone can copy it
[0:32] <megaproxy> :D
[0:32] <dr_willis> we may be getting a chic-fil-let :-P
[0:33] <plugwash> so how many Pis will this 2U case hold?
[0:33] <TAFB> dr_willis: our denny's is still here :)
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[0:33] <dr_willis> i need to make a case also
[0:33] <megaproxy> plugwash, i have some pics.
[0:33] <megaproxy> well, renders
[0:33] <megaproxy> -s
[0:33] <dr_willis> couldent find any legos.. yet.
[0:33] <megaproxy> just one
[0:33] <megaproxy> http://i.imgur.com/7RpTY.png
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[0:33] <megaproxy> you could fit 3 rows in, but i think it would get a bit busy in there
[0:33] <megaproxy> there is room at the top for a psu and other devices
[0:34] <TAFB> megaproxy: you gonna heatsink the Pi's and have some fans?
[0:34] <megaproxy> yea.
[0:34] <megaproxy> if i were to put them in a case like this, i htink it would be needed
[0:34] <TAFB> you gonna control the fans with the PWM output of the Pi? ?!?!? eh?!?! :)
[0:34] <megaproxy> if i rack mount it, it will be in one of the UK's best datacentres :D
[0:35] <dr_willis> its a pi-palooza
[0:35] <megaproxy> its bombproof!
[0:35] <megaproxy> TAFB, no idea how ill do the fans :P
[0:35] <megaproxy> there will be a master pi inside the case tho
[0:35] <megaproxy> like a dell DRAC system
[0:35] <megaproxy> so i can get in, and do things to other pi's even if the main network goes down
[0:36] <dr_willis> the alpha-pi
[0:36] <megaproxy> haha
[0:36] <TAFB> megaproxy: Do it with Pwm from the Pi, use these fans: http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/case-fans/556/arctic-f-pwm-co-.html?c=2183
[0:36] <megaproxy> i will make that its hostname.
[0:36] <TAFB> they draw no load from the PWM, just signal ;)
[0:36] <dr_willis> and the pinky-pi
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[0:36] <megaproxy> TAFB, ooooh
[0:37] <TAFB> megaproxy: Those fans are super slient, you can PWM em down to 60 RPM ;) but on full out they move good air too. They come with daisy chain connectors so each fan plugs into the next (carries pwm, rpm signal, power, ground).
[0:37] <TAFB> come in 80mm, 92mm and 120mm.
[0:37] <megaproxy> noise is not a issue where its going ;)
[0:38] <TAFB> megaproxy: I know, but why add to the mess? Develp a chassis that home users can run. The Silent Pi superpower!
[0:38] <TAFB> don't shame the Pi and put noisy ish in it :(
[0:38] <megaproxy> TAFB, ah yes good point!
[0:38] <megaproxy> ok
[0:38] <megaproxy> so my specs will be, this is for home use
[0:38] <megaproxy> can fit any server case, but designed for 2u so they can stand up
[0:38] <megaproxy> 1u, they would have to lay down
[0:38] <dr_willis> the silent-but-deadly pi case
[0:39] <TAFB> you could make a little foot for the 1U, I have a d-link switch that's 1u but has little metal L brackets you screw to one side = feet :)
[0:39] <megaproxy> you mean like on the side of these ? http://i.imgur.com/UiG4B.jpg
[0:40] <megaproxy> also that 2u black case is the one ill be working with
[0:40] <TAFB> kinda, but they stick the other way, lip faces up, so just flat surface to the ground.
[0:40] <megaproxy> (dont you just love my cable crimping, so neat)
[0:40] <TAFB> those brackets would prolly work if you rotated em 90 degrees and flipped em over ;)
[0:40] <mhz> megaproxy: nice rj45 end action
[0:40] <megaproxy> i know rite?!
[0:40] <mhz> ha ha <3
[0:41] <megaproxy> :D
[0:41] <megaproxy> its too fiddly for my big hands
[0:41] <megaproxy> so i just shove em in long
[0:41] <TAFB> that 2U is sexy. Lots of room for probably ten 80mm fans across the front ;)
[0:41] <megaproxy> mhz, this is what happens when i really care about the job : http://i.imgur.com/qgfSG.jpg
[0:41] <megaproxy> TAFB, awww yis
[0:42] <megaproxy> ill get rid of the dvd drive etc etc
[0:42] <megaproxy> no need for that
[0:42] <megaproxy> another thing i was pondering
[0:42] <megaproxy> and i doubt this is even possible
[0:42] <megaproxy> but
[0:42] <megaproxy> can you netboot of like, one sas drive
[0:42] <megaproxy> with many os's on it
[0:42] <TAFB> ahhhh
[0:42] <TAFB> hmmm
[0:42] <megaproxy> coz a sas drive is.. not slow
[0:42] <megaproxy> or even a SSD
[0:43] <TAFB> my Pi runs on SSDd :)
[0:43] <megaproxy> but i still worry about the longativity of them
[0:43] <megaproxy> we use some of the new intel ones at work
[0:43] <megaproxy> they are soooo fast
[0:43] <TAFB> did you see the MTBF on the new Sandisk ones?
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[0:43] <TAFB> MTBF. 2.5M hours
[0:44] <TAFB> that's good :)
[0:44] <megaproxy> the higher the iops the better aswell right?
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[0:44] <TAFB> I always look at IOPS when picking devices, never throughput
[0:44] <megaproxy> the ones we use are at the back : http://i.imgur.com/BwHDj.jpg
[0:44] <richardbranson> i thought that sandisk extreme uhs-1 is enough for it
[0:44] <TAFB> and that Sandisk Extreme is way high up on the IOPS list.
[0:45] <richardbranson> is it booting approx 10 seconds, but without x'es
[0:45] <TAFB> richardbranson: check out my tests, look at 4k random write on the Pi: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/Patriot_EP_32GB_vs_Sandisk_Extreme_120GB_SSD_Performance_in_RaspberryPi_large.png
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[0:46] <TAFB> Patriot EP 32GB uhs-1 supposed to be king for SD card iops, lol :)
[0:46] <richardbranson> but basically, raspberry dont need so fast drives as it is not nessesary for normal user.
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[0:47] <richardbranson> i dont know what are you doing on it and why you need impressive speed
[0:47] <TAFB> richardbranson: I'm running 8 websites and 30 e-mail domains on my Pi. When I look at my e-mail server, all it's doing all day is 4k writes and reads :(
[0:47] <richardbranson> and is it enough for it?
[0:47] <TAFB> The Pi? yeah. the SD card is what was holding me back.
[0:47] <TAFB> I have it on 100mbps internet, and the damn Pi was reciving e-mail at 700k/sec!!! With SSD she does 3.5mb/sec now! woot ;)
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[0:48] <richardbranson> i using my Pi for shell propses
[0:49] <TAFB> megaproxy: I was looking at your drawing, of the 2u with Pi's...
[0:49] <richardbranson> hmm.. freebsd is available for Pi already or port is not ready yet?
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[0:49] <megaproxy> yeees
[0:49] <TAFB> megaproxy: What I think you should do, is flush mount the front Pi's right into the front panel, so their network port and USB ports are exposed.
[0:49] <TAFB> megaproxy: Same for the rear Pi's too
[0:50] <megaproxy> howcome?
[0:50] <TAFB> megaproxy: then we can build a "wall" of fans right in the middle of the 2u, sealed top/bottom/sides, so that it draws air from the front and exhausts out the rear, but fans are in the middle :)
[0:50] <TAFB> megaproxy: so that all the ethernet is explosed, save having to run patch panel in the 2U, etc.
[0:51] <TAFB> i just think it'd be smart
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[0:51] <megaproxy> thats not a bad idea tbh
[0:51] <megaproxy> cables is one of the things im "worried" about
[0:51] <megaproxy> i *could* strip them out the plastic casing
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[0:51] <megaproxy> so its the wires inside that im using
[0:51] <TAFB> yep. I have a company that would laser cut a front and rear panel, Pi's would just snug right in, would be cheap.
[0:51] <megaproxy> then budle them into one big bundle
[0:52] <TAFB> with the Pi's flush mounted front and back, you'd have a nice channel down the middle for power wires
[0:52] <megaproxy> i have lots more playing in sketchup to do
[0:52] <megaproxy> but my pc dies when i load that render i did
[0:52] <megaproxy> too many pi's!
[0:52] <TAFB> do a sketchup with them flushmount to the front and rears, do some nice 3D views with the panels all cut up pretty.
[0:52] <TAFB> maybe draw the fan wall too so I can critique it ;)
[0:53] <TAFB> how many mm is 2U height?
[0:53] * megaproxy will have to do this on weekend
[0:53] <megaproxy> uhhh
[0:53] <megaproxy> 2 secs
[0:53] <megaproxy> i know its 19inch wide :D
[0:53] <megaproxy> like.... every other server
[0:53] <TAFB> pfft
[0:53] <TAFB> lol
[0:53] <megaproxy> 19" x 3.5" x 17.7"
[0:53] <megaproxy> 19" x 3.5" x 20.9"
[0:53] <megaproxy> 19" x 3.5" x 24"
[0:53] <megaproxy> 3.5inch
[0:53] <TAFB> k. 1 sec.
[0:53] <megaproxy> mines 24 deep afaik
[0:54] <TAFB> ok, that's 89mm high, so could fit 80mm fan easy, with some nice weather stripping around them for seal/anti-vibration
[0:55] <TAFB> you can fit 6 fans wide, flawless tight fit,
[0:55] <megaproxy> one thing about the case for home u se
[0:55] <megaproxy> buying a 2u case.. is pretty costly
[0:55] <megaproxy> i, luckilly, got all the servers i own for free
[0:55] <TAFB> can't use good fans in 1u :(
[0:55] <TAFB> nice
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[0:55] <TAFB> you looked on aliexpress for a 2u case?
[0:55] <megaproxy> only bought the switch, for ?20 out of a charity shop!
[0:56] <megaproxy> there are smaller ones like these that are probably more suitible
[0:56] <megaproxy> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2U-19-Inch-300mm-Non-Vented-Rack-Mount-Electronic-Chassis-Case-Enclosure-Black-/261049312548?pt=UK_Computing_Rackmount_Cabinets_Frames&hash=item3cc7c06524
[0:56] <megaproxy> much less deep
[0:56] <megaproxy> ohman is aliexpress good?
[0:56] <megaproxy> ive always seen cool stuff on there, but never risked buying
[0:57] <TAFB> aliexpress is awesome, order from there like every day! Just did a $9,000 order from there :)
[0:57] <TAFB> I like that ebay 2u case.
[0:57] <tanuva> what, not even OVER 9000?!
[0:57] <TAFB> nice blank flat front for you to get laser cut.
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[0:58] <TAFB> tanuva? I ordered 20 security cameras and a bunch of PoE equipment :)
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[0:58] <megaproxy> TAFB, know of any PoE lamps?
[0:58] <megaproxy> id love one of them..
[0:58] <megaproxy> "yea well, my lamp has an IP"
[0:58] <TAFB> lamps? like desk lamp? nope. lol
[0:58] <megaproxy> damnit
[0:58] <xorrbit> make one :)
[0:58] <TAFB> I use my PoE for you know, powering PoE ish
[0:58] <megaproxy> would poe have enough power?
[0:59] <TAFB> PoE has lots of power, I run 55 watt poe, but some is like 17 ;)
[0:59] <TAFB> megaproxy: If you order that ebay 2u case and get it laser cut for flush mounting Pi's it would be the most retarded Pi project ever :) For sure get you on front page of rpi.org ;)
[0:59] <dr_willis> PiE PoE
[1:00] <megaproxy> TAFB, once i have a few more mockups#
[1:00] <megaproxy> ill make a blog :P
[1:00] <TAFB> dr_willis: If I get board I'm going to "dumb" PoE power my Pi.
[1:00] <megaproxy> and email them
[1:00] <TAFB> shhhhhh
[1:00] <TAFB> keep it secret
[1:00] <megaproxy> waaah
[1:00] <TAFB> then just BOOM, 48 Pi SERVER BABY!
[1:00] <megaproxy> hahah
[1:00] <megaproxy> hmmm
[1:00] <xorrbit> Hh
[1:00] <megaproxy> otherwise it will turn into vaporware :D
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[1:01] <BurtyB> grar
[1:01] <megaproxy> for work related pidom, i think ive said t his idea before.
[1:01] <megaproxy> but i want to get a few pi's and attach to racks on the side or w.e
[1:01] <megaproxy> and run webcam + temp sensors
[1:02] <megaproxy> and w.e other info i can gather
[1:02] <megaproxy> the bosses will pay for that :D
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[1:02] <TAFB> megaproxy: lol. Make sure in your 2U the Pi's have these on them: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/New-Heatsink-for-Raspberry-Pi-2x-Pure-copper-1x-aluminum-Best-cool-/321029967006?pt=US_CPU_Fans_Heatsinks&hash=item4abee08c9e
[1:02] <TAFB> :)
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[1:03] <BurtyB> ahhh it's that megaproxy again... is that you I see in the pic next to dan? heh
[1:03] <megaproxy> to the right of him?
[1:03] <megaproxy> yes :D
[1:03] <BurtyB> megaproxy, heh yes on his right ;)
[1:03] <BurtyB> megaproxy, busted ;)
[1:03] <megaproxy> TAFB, im going to order some of them for myself :D
[1:03] <megaproxy> BurtyB, where are you seeing this pic?!
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[1:04] <TAFB> megaproxy: As I've always found out, get some extras for friends, mark em up = yours for free!
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[1:04] <BurtyB> megaproxy, the book of face - I hope he didnt abuse you with alcohol
[1:05] <megaproxy> haha
[1:05] <megaproxy> i drank shandys
[1:05] <megaproxy> as i was driving :(
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[1:06] <BurtyB> megaproxy, looked a good night - a couple on there I recognise (dan/adam/darren) ;)
[1:06] <megaproxy> it was v good
[1:06] <megaproxy> the food was :O
[1:07] <megaproxy> mitchelin star
[1:07] <megaproxy> however you spell
[1:07] <BurtyB> too good for you lot :p
[1:07] <megaproxy> yep haha
[1:07] <megaproxy> every other party was so suited up
[1:07] <megaproxy> then there is us
[1:07] <megaproxy> jeans and a untucked shirt
[1:07] <megaproxy> loud
[1:07] <megaproxy> haha
[1:07] <megaproxy> they gave us our own little room :DD
[1:08] <BurtyB> megaproxy, not supprised ;)
[1:08] <megaproxy> haha
[1:08] <megaproxy> right, ill be back in 20
[1:08] <megaproxy> finally rolled my joint!
[1:08] <megaproxy> to the smokeshed!!
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[1:11] <xenophile> ugh why is it such a pain in the ass to install a repo on raspbmc
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[1:13] <Coburn> debian ftw
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[1:14] <mbalho> speaking of packages anyone wanna update upstart on raspbian to be a non 2 year old version? same with nodejs
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[1:16] <Coburn> contact the devs
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[1:17] <mbalho> Coburn: how do i look up a maintainer for a raspbian apt-get package/
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[1:17] <Coburn> apt-cache show <package>
[1:18] <mbalho> ahh sweet
[1:18] <Coburn> that should show the mantainer
[1:18] <Coburn> I think
[1:18] <Coburn> Don't quote me on that
[1:20] <frikinz> http://packages.qa.debian.org/u/upstart.html so upstart was not migrated to debian for a long long time. no surprise. You could recompile the sid or testing version
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[1:22] <mbalho> frikinz: ahh cool. can you tell apt-get to use the unstable version when you install?
[1:22] <frikinz> mbalho: you can but it has to exist in the repository that suits your architecture. Don't know how raspbian is handled
[1:23] <mbalho> ah
[1:23] <frikinz> I don't even have it installed on my raspbian.
[1:23] <Coburn> Hold up
[1:24] <Coburn> if you add the unstable armhf from the debian.org guys
[1:24] <Coburn> then that'll be ok!
[1:24] <Coburn> then you just do apt-get -t unstable/sid <package>
[1:24] <frikinz> you'd break your raspbian
[1:24] <Coburn> Not really
[1:24] <Coburn> I've done that on powerpc to install a wheezy kernel on squeeze
[1:24] <mbalho> id rather re flash my sd card than have to look for instructions on out of date software :)
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[1:25] <Coburn> simply add a line in your /etc/apt/sources.list ; apt-get update ; apt-get -t unstable <package> ; comment out that line ; apt-get update
[1:25] <Coburn> mission complete
[1:26] <mbalho> Coburn: thanks!
[1:26] <Coburn> also, raspbian is the same as debian armhf, however just that some packages are tweaked for extra juice
[1:26] <mbalho> ah good to know
[1:27] <Coburn> also
[1:27] <Coburn> http://packages.debian.org/<package name>
[1:27] <Coburn> use that and you'll be able to pull ones singly from sid or w/e
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[2:03] <urbmen> Hi
[2:04] <samuel02> is there anyone here who have experience with installing wi-pi?
[2:04] <Dr_Willis_> Not me.
[2:04] <samuel02> I've followed everything at http://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-49107/l/wi-pi-wi-pi-wlan-installation-procedure-for-raspbian-on-raspberry-pi but it can't find any networks?
[2:04] <Dr_Willis_> Trying to figure out how to make it set the time from the network at the moment. :)
[2:05] <samuel02> Dr_Willis_: I see, are you good with networking stuff?
[2:05] <Dr_Willis_> Small Home networks mainly
[2:05] <pksato> wi-pi?
[2:05] <samuel02> pksato, yep
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[2:06] <samuel02> Dr_Willis_: what about configuring network cards?
[2:06] <samuel02> :)
[2:06] <Dr_Willis_> heh.. that url requires flash.. but theres no flash for the pi. ;)
[2:07] <Dr_Willis_> samuel02: thats about the same as its always been for years..
[2:07] <Dr_Willis_> ifconfig with the right options
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[2:07] <samuel02> Dr_Willis: pdf: http://www.element14.com/community/servlet/JiveServlet/previewBody/49107-102-1-257014/Wi_Pi.User_Manual.pdf
[2:07] <Dr_Willis_> there we go the wi-pi users manual -- but.. i dont think i got a pdf viewer on my pi. ;)
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[2:08] <urbmen> sorry, I'm here to see what others are doing with their raspberry pi's. I'm currently trying to setup raspbmc. But wondering what else I can do with another SD card
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[2:08] <samuel02> Dr_Willis_: well basically it just tells me to add stuff to /etc/network/interfaces and then restart the network. supposedly drivers should already be there
[2:09] <samuel02> iwlist wlan0 scan gives no results
[2:09] <Dr_Willis_> urbmen: I got one pi working as a upnp server... serveing videos to the rest of the lan. :) and a 2nd pi.
[2:09] <Dr_Willis_> urbmen: but thats using rasmbmc, or xbinc or openelec. ;) then theres the other linux disrtos you an play with.
[2:09] <samuel02> and ifconfig shows some stuff but apparently something is still wrong..
[2:10] <Coburn> samuel02: ifconfig wlan0 up
[2:10] <Coburn> if the interface is down, it's not going to be used
[2:10] <Dr_Willis_> i thought one used the iw* commands for wireless..
[2:10] <Coburn> still
[2:11] <Coburn> ifconfig does interface up/down stuff
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[2:11] <pksato> ah... IEEE802.11abgn, NOT Wi-Pi protocol.
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[2:11] <roasted> hello friends
[2:12] <Essobi> Herp.
[2:13] <Coburn> Derp
[2:13] <samuel02> Coburn: Dr_Willis_: thanks but still same problem.. ifconfig gives me everything but an address and such. iwlist wlan0 scan gives no results. when doing a restart of the networking it doesn't get any dhcp offers
[2:14] <samuel02> and "unable to obtain a lease on first try. Exiting."
[2:14] <Coburn> What is this WiPi stuff?
[2:14] <Dr_Willis_> samuel02: this is a wireless network im assuming.
[2:14] <pksato> samuel02: some wifi dongles need a proprietary firmware.
[2:14] <Dr_Willis_> I stull cant read the wi-pi pdf :)
[2:14] <Coburn> that too
[2:14] <Coburn> samuel02: apt-get install firmware-nonfree
[2:14] <Dr_Willis_> I researched on amazon. picked up 3 differnt wifi dongles all are totally plug and play in linux
[2:14] <Coburn> or is that firmware-linux-nonfree
[2:14] <Essobi> What is WI-PI?
[2:15] <Coburn> ^ that
[2:15] <Coburn> WiPi = some crap that element14 made?
[2:15] <pksato> wifi with f replaced by p. :)
[2:15] <Essobi> lol
[2:15] <Essobi> Is it just a usb dongle?
[2:15] <samuel02> it's a pretty neat wifi dongle built for the pi, apperantly the pi has drivers for it already: http://www.element14.com/community/servlet/JiveServlet/previewBody/49107-102-1-257014/Wi_Pi.User_Manual.pdf
[2:15] <pksato> and, also Wi-Pi is a network protocol used on Korea, and
[2:16] <samuel02> http://www.element14.com/community/docs/DOC-48541/l/wi-pi-wlan-usb-module-for-the-raspberry-pi
[2:16] <samuel02> Coburn, you think it's crap?
[2:16] <Coburn> Give up
[2:16] <pksato> some other project using nay wirelles comunication and Raspberry Pi.
[2:16] <Coburn> and use normal stuff
[2:16] <Dr_Willis_> the site cant aparently have a html version of their pdf. :)
[2:16] <samuel02> like what?
[2:16] <Coburn> uh
[2:16] <Coburn> what are you trying to do with it?
[2:17] <Coburn> also, sorry if I sounded offensive when I said "give up", but WiPi = more crap to pollute the airspace
[2:17] <samuel02> with the pi? just a simple statusboard..
[2:17] <Dr_Willis_> wosers - this youtube plugin for xbmc does work... Get that Box Maru! Go Kitty Go!
[2:17] <samuel02> Coburn, I'm sure you're right
[2:17] <Coburn> statusboard...
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[2:17] <Coburn> you mean
[2:17] <samuel02> Coburn: haha what?
[2:18] <Coburn> what do you mean by statusboard
[2:18] <Coburn> Oh I see
[2:18] <Coburn> WIPI is a middleware platform used in South Korea that allows mobile phones, regardless of manufacturer or carrier, to run applications.
[2:18] <Coburn> wait
[2:18] <Coburn> no
[2:18] <Coburn> Wikipedia, fail
[2:18] <pksato> samuel02: what wifi (wi-pi) adapter you have? lsusb line of.
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[2:19] <crazyk> here's some verified working wireless adapters for rpi: http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#USB_Wi-Fi_Adapters
[2:19] <pksato> also, a wi-pi here http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/443556734/wipi-wireless-bridge-for-raspberry-pi
[2:19] <samuel02> Coburn: oh I have a screen on the wall, I'm creating a simple web page that's gonna grab some json data from a few servers and present it nicely for me during my work, I'm a web dev..
[2:19] <Coburn> Ah!
[2:19] <Coburn> OK
[2:19] <Coburn> Now I'm following you
[2:20] <samuel02> crazyk, it's the RT5370
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[2:21] <samuel02> I might have found something: http://raspberry-pi-notes.blogspot.se/2012/05/rt5370-cheap-micro-usb-wireless-dongle.html
[2:21] <samuel02> we'll see if it works :)
[2:22] <Coburn> samuel02: some wifi dongles are horrible. be warned.
[2:22] <Coburn> ralink ones are known to be shit.
[2:22] <crazyk> I've found major issues if I don't use a powered hub
[2:22] <Coburn> pardon my french
[2:23] <samuel02> Coburn, I see.. Well this is what I've got tonight and I really want it to work
[2:23] <Dr_Willis_> Hmm. actually the 3 i have that work i think are all ralink..
[2:23] <Dr_Willis_> ;)
[2:23] <samuel02> crazyk, what do you mean with powered hub?
[2:23] <Dr_Willis_> differnt # chipsets. but i think they are ralink. I may be confused - i ran wire last week.
[2:23] <Dr_Willis_> a USB hub with its own power supply
[2:24] <samuel02> so how did you get them working? :)
[2:24] <crazyk> http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Powered_USB_Hubs
[2:24] <samuel02> I see, I can try that!
[2:24] <Dr_Willis_> They can be a little hard to find at times. Compared to the dozens of ones that are unpowered.
[2:24] <crazyk> I got one at best buy for cheap... a mini belking 4 port
[2:24] <samuel02> I've got one :)
[2:24] <crazyk> that seems to work well
[2:24] <Dr_Willis_> I just plugged mine in and they worked (wifi) I did some googling and earched amazon and found ones that sayd 'worked with ubuntu' in the descriptions
[2:25] <Dr_Willis_> Best Buy and Cheap = :) a contridiction from what ive seen
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[2:26] <roasted> hello friends
[2:27] <roasted> I'm interested in utilizing my raspberry pi to be a baby monitor. I tried Matt Kaar's popular idea, but it seems to be pretty bad with audio, and I get an awful, awful reverb. Is there anything else I can do to sort of "publish" my audio/video feed into a webcam server and punch that URL into VLC to stream it from another device on the LAN?
[2:28] <pksato> roasted: webcam with a mic. And a ffmpeg.
[2:28] <roasted> pksato: I have my Pi here with a USB webcam and a USB Logitech microphone. SSH keys are set up... I'm just not sure what to do from here...
[2:28] <roasted> It's running Raspbian, fwiw
[2:29] <crazyk> i've tried "motion"... though of three cameras, I've only got them to work for a few minutes at a time before a segfault
[2:29] <roasted> I've used Motion extensively with great success. Does Motion pass audio though???
[2:29] <pksato> motion also work.
[2:29] <crazyk> waiting for the raspberry pi 5 megapixel camera board that is supposed to come out in january
[2:29] <samuel02> I can't find it! Must either have thrown it away or lent it to someone..
[2:29] <crazyk> no audio in motion that I am aware of... my bad.
[2:29] <urbmen> Hi quick question, if I abandon my raspbmc and start afresh with openelec what are the differences do I still need to purchase codecs
[2:30] <roasted> Yeah, I use Motion (along with 247 recording over H264 steams via samba to my NAS) here at home as part of my security system. It works great but typically audio isn't necessary for video surveillance.
[2:30] <roasted> But this time, since it's a baby monitor, video and audio are equally important.
[2:30] <pksato> roasted: rikkib build a monitoring system using R-Pi.
[2:30] <roasted> pksato: hm, really?
[2:30] <roasted> pksato: any sort of link to what he whipped up?
[2:30] <Coburn> OpenELEC seems to be better than Raspbmc
[2:31] <Coburn> At least the UI looks smoother
[2:31] <Coburn> No apps though
[2:31] <samuel02> crazyk: Dr_Willis_: Coburn: do you know what things I can try before giving up?
[2:31] <pksato> see channel log (url on topic)
[2:31] <Coburn> samuel02: not off the top of my head. wireless is on the backburner, need to sort out xbmc stuff
[2:31] <Coburn> sorry
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[2:31] <Coburn> and I'm about to walk out the door for lunch
[2:31] <Coburn> so
[2:32] <samuel02> Coburn, I see. Thanks anyways! Enjoy your meal!
[2:32] <Coburn> will do
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[2:32] <urbmen> what do you mean by no apps in openelec no addins at all
[2:32] <roasted> pksato: I'm having some difficulty seeing the whole thing here in irssi...
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[2:33] <crazyk> hmm, short of a project that already does it, it seems like you would have to mux them together
[2:33] <pksato> roasted: /topic show topic line
[2:33] <roasted> ah thanks
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[2:33] <roasted> er
[2:33] <roasted> yeah this is a long fn log...
[2:34] <crazyk> zoneminder? http://www.zoneminder.com/
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[2:34] <roasted> I'll try my luck with google
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[2:34] <roasted> I've tinkered with zoneminder. It needs some monumental bug fixing to be usable, imho.
[2:34] <roasted> sounds like some devs are banding together to fork it though, since the main guy seems to be MIA 100% of the time (and he's the only one with trunk access to the entire program for publishing updates etc)
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[2:37] <crazyk> roasted: here it is with motion: http://www.lavrsen.dk/foswiki/bin/view/Motion/SoundAudioRecording
[2:37] <crazyk> though, again, I've had issues running it on the pi
[2:37] <crazyk> segfault with the best camera I have after just a few minutes of recording
[2:38] <crazyk> I myself am waiting for the camera board: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/camera-board
[2:38] <crazyk> though maybe rikkib has the answer as pksato suggested
[2:43] <crazyk> maybe motion will work better with the board rather than a USB cam? maybe not.
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[2:50] <Coburn> [11:32:50] <+urbmen> what do you mean by no apps in openelec no addins at all
[2:50] <Coburn> Vanilla XBMC
[2:50] * rikkib knows nothing
[2:50] <rikkib> haha
[2:51] <crazyk> do tell. :-)
[2:51] <rikkib> tail -f /var/log/syslog and or toher logs to see if you can see an error
[2:52] <rikkib> uvc video driver is/was broken last time I checked... To make a cam run headless I run and old kernel from 7th month. In 8th month theyt broke the uvc driver.
[2:53] <roasted> crazyk: I ran motion with two network cams... 1280x800... I didn't have any issues with them... what exactly did you run into?
[2:53] <roasted> crazyk: or perhaps, do you still have yourmotion config around?
[2:53] <crazyk> rikkib: for me I've tried three cams, all worked on ubuntu 12.04 on a amd box
[2:53] <crazyk> rikkib: same config I transferred over to the pi
[2:53] <rikkib> I ran being the operative words
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[2:53] <crazyk> rikkib: changed the resolution around trying to get it to work
[2:54] <rikkib> I do run...
[2:54] <crazyk> rikkib: the best I got it to run was for a few minutes, until it would segfault
[2:54] <crazyk> rikkib: awesome, what camera model?
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[2:54] <rikkib> Cheap and nasty
[2:54] <rikkib> uvc type
[2:54] <roasted> rikkib: are you using Motion for your baby-monitor-esque setup?
[2:54] <crazyk> are you using audio along with the video? I assume a powered usb hub to, eh?
[2:55] <rikkib> Actually runs better than the genious I have here
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[2:55] <rikkib> Only vid atm but I can do audio on demand.
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[2:55] <crazyk> I just installed three motion cams from samsung today, has an audio port in the back, infrared and the like, 1tb hard drive, etc... but making it out of a rpi seems way cooler
[2:55] <rikkib> So both work at the same time
[2:55] <roasted> rikkib: using Motion, I assume?
[2:56] <rikkib> Yes
[2:56] <rikkib> 2 x to get through a gateway
[2:56] <crazyk> has 6 cams in a kit: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SME-2220-Complete-8-Channel-Surveillance/dp/B003PG7J28
[2:57] <rikkib> hang on I see if it runs... I have just sent a new one up as I installed the other one...
[2:57] <roasted> rikkib: is your audio and video pretty in sync?
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[2:58] <rikkib> http://www.bencom.co.nz/cam/
[2:58] <rikkib> Watch me wave
[2:58] <roasted> haaa,nice
[2:58] <crazyk> that's awesome
[2:58] <crazyk> and the pi isn't smoking!
[2:58] <crazyk> haha
[2:59] <roasted> rikkib: I had no idea audio was possible with motion, and I've used motion for uh. 2 years?
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[2:59] <roasted> (then again I never had use for audio on regular surveillance cameras)
[2:59] <rikkib> Audio is separate
[2:59] <rikkib> Just another stream
[3:00] <rikkib> I aim for the min and then I will work up
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[3:00] <crazyk> I'd very much like to get a camera in my car, and sync the video over wifi when I get home
[3:00] <rikkib> 320x240 1fps and 16K mono streams over net
[3:00] <crazyk> how many do you think you can run off the pi?
[3:01] <rikkib> You fired to many Q? at me... anything I need to anwser and have not try again
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[3:01] <rikkib> Oner per RPi I would expect
[3:02] <Coburn> ]Also, anyone know of any good capture things that can get video in via HDMI / DVI or RCAs?
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[3:02] <crazyk> do you mean a complete system?
[3:02] <crazyk> or building from a rpi?
[3:03] <rikkib> Audio sync depends on player caching
[3:03] <Coburn> Ones I can pick off the shelf and use
[3:03] <crazyk> http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-SME-2220-Complete-8-Channel-Surveillance/dp/B003PG7J28
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[3:03] <crazyk> I just installed three cameras into it today, and it works fantastic
[3:03] <Coburn> I'd like to record stuff from my CuBoxes/R-Pis
[3:03] <TAFB> Coburn: I capture HDMI video with my Blackmagic Pci express card in my PC :)
[3:03] <crazyk> (for work... it was on sale in the US)
[3:03] <Coburn> BlackMagic eh?
[3:03] <Coburn> How much?
[3:04] <TAFB> was $170 on sale, I think normally $200 ish
[3:04] <Coburn> I could use USB ones but they have lag
[3:04] <Coburn> Or something
[3:04] <rikkib>
[3:04] <TAFB> http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/intensity/
[3:04] <TAFB> I have the Intensity Pro
[3:05] <rikkib>
[3:05] <TAFB> ish is like production quality HDMI capture :) Can't even tell it's been recorded :)
[3:05] <rikkib> That IP has one of my test cams
[3:06] <TAFB> rikkib:
[3:06] <rikkib> Can not see the stream as it is internal but I have made the pics and movies avail so I can monitor performance
[3:06] <TAFB> rikkib: you need a cam with WDR ;)
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[3:06] <Coburn> Problem is, I'm using a laptop for the recording side of things
[3:06] <Coburn> so I'd need a cardbus/expresscard one... or USB (eek)
[3:06] <atouk> why was i expecting Shower Cam, Bathroom Cam, Guestroom Cam, Dungeon Cam, ...
[3:06] <TAFB> Coburn: No usb 3?
[3:07] <roasted> :D
[3:07] <Coburn> atouk: Big Brother, powered by a R-Pi
[3:07] <crazyk> CarPi!
[3:07] <rikkib> WDR?
[3:07] <crazyk> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wide_dynamic_range
[3:07] <Coburn> Wide Dynamic Range ?
[3:07] <Coburn> FLUKE!
[3:08] <Coburn> I guessed it
[3:08] <TAFB> rikkib: Wide Dynamic Range. Stops bright areas from causing the rest of the frame from being washed out or under exposed :)
[3:08] <rikkib> The software can do that
[3:08] <TAFB> rikkib: It's never as good as in the sensor ;)
[3:08] <Coburn> TAFB: only USB2. The work lappy is a DELL Studio 1737
[3:08] <Coburn> Core 2 Duo
[3:08] <Coburn> It's pretty gutsy
[3:08] <TAFB> Coburn: Yikes. Time to upgrade ;)
[3:08] <Coburn> Has a messed up screen tho
[3:08] <rikkib> It is a cheap ad nasty cam
[3:09] <TAFB> Coburn: Get i5 minimum for 1080p capture.
[3:09] <Coburn> pfft
[3:09] <crazyk> :-) @ pfft
[3:09] <TAFB> rikkib: Oh, lol. When I have my insane WDR 1080p cams up and running on the Pi i'll show ya some quality ;)
[3:09] <Coburn> Intel is overrated
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[3:09] <Coburn> Well, okay, I lie
[3:09] <Coburn> I'm using a quadcore AMD box here
[3:09] <Coburn> at the moment
[3:10] <ryankarason> is there a maximum size of sdcard the raspi can read? if so, what?
[3:10] <Coburn> 32GB
[3:10] <crazyk> I have a 256 MB RAM pi, and I have to say the performance is abismal... with just wordpress installed on it
[3:10] <Coburn> Doesn't support SDXC
[3:10] <crazyk> I can't imagine running 1080p cams on it
[3:10] <Coburn> ew, wordpress
[3:10] <TAFB> ryankarason: 32GB, but you can have as much storage on USB, i.e. my Pi: http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[3:10] <crazyk> local web dev stuff
[3:10] <Coburn> go for flatpress
[3:10] <TAFB> Coburn: I changed the green on my chart to match the Pi leaf green ;) lol
[3:10] <Dr_Willis_> Hmm.. was watching a video from a usb flash on the powered hub then it smehow got unplugged/removed... weird.. loose cable perhaps
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[3:11] <Coburn> TAFB: Stop being a tease
[3:11] <Dr_Willis_> 32gb is the max size of a SDHC card isent it?
[3:11] <SpeedEvil> dr_willis: USB overload
[3:11] <TAFB> ryankarason: You can also move the operating system off the SD onto USB. You still need SD to boot but you can use junky 128mb SD card ;)
[3:11] <TAFB> dr_willis: Nope, I have 128mb in my T2i
[3:11] <TAFB> 128gb
[3:11] <Dr_Willis_> SpeedEvil: its the only thing on the powered hub. with a powered usb HD also.
[3:11] <TAFB> lol
[3:11] <SpeedEvil> k
[3:12] <Coburn> No, TAFB, 64GB is SDXC
[3:12] <SpeedEvil> not that then
[3:12] <crazyk> that status page is sweet
[3:12] <TAFB> Coburn: http://www.amazon.com/Lexar-SDXC-Flash-Memory-LSD128CRBNA133/dp/B004SAMZW4
[3:12] <Dr_Willis_> well the video is playing now. :) unplugged/replugged in everything.
[3:12] <TAFB> crazyk: Thanks! I put a ton of work into it. It was designed and originally coded by atouk! :)
[3:13] <Coburn> > # ***** WARNING ***** Setting force_turbo=1 will most likely void your warranty!
[3:13] <TAFB> Coburn: yep ;)
[3:13] <Coburn> You need to put "Coburn from r-pi IRC voided his warranty"
[3:13] <TAFB> lol
[3:13] <Coburn> USING THIS CONFIG
[3:14] <TAFB> I'll put: List of users warranty I've voided...
[3:14] <TAFB> 1) Coburn
[3:14] <Coburn> even better
[3:15] <ryankarason> TAFB: thanks for the enlightenment
[3:16] * rikkib have another 8GB Class 10 SD Card on the way...
[3:16] <TAFB> ryankarason: which card? Make sure to run 4k write IOPS tests on it :)
[3:16] <rikkib> New wheezy will have to wait
[3:17] <crazyk> will plugging things into the GPIO void your warrant? :-)
[3:17] <TAFB> back powering it by the GPIO prolly does ;)
[3:18] <crazyk> this is the best I've come up with: http://karlherrick.com/dev/2012/09/05/logging-motion-with-the-raspberry-pi/
[3:18] <crazyk> and I know next to nothing about wiring
[3:18] <crazyk> and wish I did
[3:18] <ryankarason> TAFB: i am thinking to get a 32GB sd for i do not have a external usb drive which i can spare at the moment
[3:18] <crazyk> that has been running for almost a two months and hasn't fried anything. I am super surprised
[3:18] <ryankarason> does anyone have an particular suggestions on any cards
[3:18] <TAFB> ryankarason: Great card is Patriot EP 32gb, super fast, not expensive ($27 on amazon)
[3:19] <crazyk> I'd get at least a class 10 card, I think.
[3:19] <TAFB> megaproxy: are you around?? Someone stole your super computer/server idea, and he's only 6 years old! http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/supercomputerweb1.jpg
[3:20] <TAFB> ryankarason: So you know what it looks like: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi.jpg
[3:20] <TAFB> ryankarason: Performance (1GB file, iozone): http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/Patriot_EP_32GB_Performance_in_RaspberryPi_large.png
[3:21] <TAFB> ryankarason: Comparison to my new SSD drive ;) http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/Patriot_EP_32GB_vs_Sandisk_Extreme_120GB_SSD_Performance_in_RaspberryPi_large.png
[3:23] <crazyk> so without knowing a lot about transistors, do you all think it would be too difficult to follow the advice given @ http://www.element14.com/community/message/59968#59968/l/re-how-to-control-an-rc-cars-remote-with-raspberry-pi
[3:24] <crazyk> it seems way over my head, but controlling the RC car by wiring the RPI to the cars remote seems much more doable
[3:24] <crazyk> than recreating an entire robot setup
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[3:26] <Dr_Willis_> I recall seeing a 'Roomba' kit that you could use for a robot base. :)
[3:27] <TAFB> lol, rpi.org needs to upgrade some servers! SQL ERROR [ mysqli ] Too many connections [1040]
[3:27] <TAFB> must be running it on a Pi ;)
[3:27] <crazyk> i bought an arduino and an rpi, and have tried to
[3:28] <crazyk> "get into" electronics, but I am starting from a linux base
[3:28] <crazyk> not an electrical engineering base
[3:28] <Essobi> ...
[3:28] <crazyk> kind of jumping fields
[3:28] <Essobi> compsci != ee
[3:28] <RaptorJesus> ^^ ya
[3:28] <crazyk> I can tell
[3:29] <crazyk> based on the guys response in the element14 forum
[3:29] <crazyk> though radio shack has a lot of "getting started" books
[3:29] <crazyk> :-)
[3:29] <crazyk> kind of lame, I know: http://karlherrick.com/dev/2012/07/07/arduino-motion-detector/
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[3:30] <crazyk> The text of one of the books: ???You should now experiment by looking at all the possible devices that have two contacts that close.???
[3:30] <crazyk> I feel like I am 10 again!
[3:30] <crazyk> not near as much time though
[3:31] <Dr_Willis_> I used to have a lot of the electronics kits and stuff years ago.. ;)
[3:31] <Dr_Willis_> then i set one on fire...
[3:31] <Essobi> :D
[3:31] <Essobi> On purpose?
[3:31] <crazyk> yeah, wife is talking to me now... gotta go
[3:31] <crazyk> hope to be back
[3:31] <crazyk> talk to you guys later
[3:31] <Essobi> crazyk: good luck with that.
[3:32] <Dr_Willis_> one of those 500+ kits with a breadbord and place for the batteries.. i should have kept it.. sold it in a rummage sale years ago
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[3:32] <Dr_Willis_> all the stuff i should have kept. :) like my legos.. I need them for a Pi Case!
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[3:48] <Datalink> I have a booster battery for my pi now, mobile computer of awesome
[3:49] <TAFB> Datalink: Nice! Pics??! :)
[3:49] <TAFB> in case you didn't know, I like pictures
[3:49] <pksato> Datalink: a Submarine battery? :)
[3:50] <Datalink> it's just an enercell cellphone booster :P rated at around 2.88Wh...
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[3:51] <TAFB> Datalink: Ahhh, they work good :) I have a 4 x 18650 (3600mah each) battery box that I use for my Pi when it's not running on solar :)
[3:51] <Datalink> nice
[3:55] <SpeedEvil> 3600 is basically a lie
[3:55] <SpeedEvil> they're not made.
[3:55] <TAFB> sorry, I meant 3400 :) lol
[3:55] <TAFB> mistype
[3:55] <TAFB> http://www.intl-outdoor.com/2-pcs-panasonic-ncr18650b-3400mah-protected-battery-p-605.html
[3:56] <TAFB> I load test them to around 3460mah though :)
[3:56] <TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/FlashlightStuff/2012-10-29-HD2010_flashlight.jpg
[3:57] <SpeedEvil> really? using what tester?
[3:57] <TAFB> the iCharger USB thing? lol. one sec I'll see what it's called, lol
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[3:59] <Essobi> I've had a few bad wallwarts.
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[4:01] <TAFB> SpeedEvil: I forget I lent it to my brother! it's the iCharger, does balancing, load testing, etc. Connects by USB to your computer and spits out awesome runtime charts, etc. I'll see if I still got the charges from the Panasonic 3400's :)
[4:01] <TAFB> charts from...
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[4:07] <Datalink> this is small, I'm planning on setting a network between it and my phone and doing fun stuff
[4:08] <SpeedEvil> obstetric
[4:08] <SpeedEvil> interesting
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[4:42] <GriffenJBS> still no deb for qt5?
[4:45] <pksato> debian is know to use only outdated versions. :)
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[4:47] <GriffenJBS> I keep seeing pretty demos using qt5, but no info how to run them, besides reflashing an SD card
[4:48] <GriffenJBS> I found a qt50-snapshot.deb but it has only headers and libs in it, no binaries
[4:50] <pksato> http://twolife.be/raspbian/
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[4:51] <ryushe> Milos: alive by any chance?
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[4:56] <GriffenJBS> thanks pksato, new toys to play with
[4:57] <rikkib> http://www.bencom.co.nz/cam/
[4:58] <rikkib> The current drawn by a web cam
[4:58] <rikkib> Live
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[4:59] <rikkib> Around 129mA in this case
[4:59] <ryushe> anyone here play around with 3G modems?
[4:59] <Coburn> yes.
[4:59] <Coburn> ryushe: what's up, mate
[5:00] <ryushe> simple question I hope. I have a Huawei e173 which works fine. both Sakis3G and wvdial can use it, so that part is fine. Now I'm trying to get it to connect on boot. I created an init script for Sakis3G, which doesn't seem to work when booting , but works after it's booted (which is too late)
[5:00] <ryushe> what's recommended though?
[5:00] <ryushe> setting up wvdial or sticking with sakis3g?
[5:01] <pksato> ryushe: use a /etc/network/interfaces
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[5:02] <pksato> or not.
[5:02] <ryushe> so auto ppp0, iface ppp0 inet wvdial?
[5:03] <ryushe> what I don't get though that is via either route (sakis or wvdial) I get an eth1 instead of a ppp0
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[5:04] <Milos> ryushe, yeah I'm here, but I don't use debian
[5:04] <Milos> also that is cool
[5:04] <Milos> also are you in NZ?
[5:04] <ryushe> nope, US
[5:04] <Milos> what's up with .co.nz
[5:04] <Milos> wait different person
[5:04] <Milos> hi rikkib
[5:04] <ryushe> sorry to bother you, I remember you having offered advise before on 3g modems ;)
[5:04] <Milos> haha not a problem
[5:04] <rikkib> Hi
[5:05] <Milos> I'm just heading home from work but I can chat to you then if you need anything
[5:05] <Milos> I had issues with usb_modeswitch not always working on boot btw
[5:05] <home> THanks
[5:05] <Milos> -_-
[5:05] <home> MillerGD247: its very appreciated
[5:05] <Milos> milos you mean
[5:05] <ryushe> so far that part seems to always work fine
[5:05] <home> Milos: What?
[5:05] <Milos> ryushe, on boot?
[5:05] <ryushe> soon as I can log in, everything (sakis or wvdial) works fine
[5:05] <home> Milos: what you talkin about? 0_0
[5:06] <Milos> go home
[5:06] <home> yay!
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[5:06] <Milos> ryushe, ah that's good
[5:06] <ryushe> All I've been trying to do lately is getting the stupid thing to connect on boot, so in case of power outages or such it connects without user interaction
[5:07] <Milos> no idea how to do that on debian, but if you google ppp0 boot debian I'm sure you can find something
[5:07] <ryushe> wrote a sakis3g init script for debian, which works fine once it's booted, but not during boot it seems, and I have no idea why. So, seeing as wvdial works fine too, I thought I'd see if I can use that instead
[5:07] <Milos> wvdial does your chat script for you
[5:08] <Milos> not sure about this whole sakis3g thing, never used it
[5:08] <ryushe> What I'm a bit confused about though is that after running wvdial I get an eth1 instead of a ppp0
[5:08] <Milos> haha really?
[5:08] <Milos> haven't seen that happen before
[5:08] <ryushe> yeah, I have no idea why
[5:09] <Milos> first thing that comes to mind is PPPoE but I'm pretty sure this is unrelated
[5:09] <ryushe> but lets assume I have/get a ppp0. simply adding the stuff to networking is enough?
[5:09] <pksato> ryushe: wvdial configured and working?
[5:09] <ryushe> yeah
[5:09] <Milos> you need to put the chat scripts somewhere
[5:09] <Milos> to start on boot with you rmodem
[5:09] <ryushe> at least, I get an IP and I can ping stuff
[5:09] <Milos> wvdial does this for you
[5:10] <pksato> on, interfaces, create new lines with
[5:10] <Milos> s/you modem/your modem/
[5:10] <ryushe> and that's just by running "wvdial &"
[5:10] <pksato> auto sakis3g
[5:10] <pksato> iface sakis3g inet wvdial
[5:10] <pksato> provider sakis3g
[5:11] <pksato> sakis3g is a name of wvdial profile.
[5:11] <Milos> pksato seems to know what he's talking about so try that
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[5:11] <ryushe> trying now
[5:11] <Milos> I'm off, see you later, good luck
[5:12] <ryushe> o/
[5:12] <ryushe> thanks
[5:12] <pksato> I dont really know. :)
[5:12] <ryushe> hah
[5:12] <ryushe> well, it's in, so rebooting now
[5:12] <TAFB> woot, status page now on port 80 :)
[5:12] <pksato> I never used wvdial. :)
[5:12] <ryushe> ah
[5:12] <rikkib> Dialer launches pppd
[5:12] <ryushe> what do you use?
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[5:13] <pksato> for land line dial up? hand write ppp config.
[5:13] <rikkib> after dialing
[5:13] <pksato> and chat script.
[5:14] <ryushe> let's see what it does ]
[5:14] <rikkib> dns & gateway gets set automatically if you get it right
[5:14] <ryushe> woo
[5:14] <ryushe> seems to have worked!
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[5:15] <rikkib> $$$$$
[5:15] <rikkib> $$$$$
[5:15] <rikkib> Haha
[5:15] <ryushe> awesome
[5:15] <pksato> Yes, I need money to buy more rpies. :)
[5:16] <ryushe> that was a lot easier than trying to get this to work: http://pastebin.com/uVM6BJPz
[5:16] <ryushe> thanks agian
[5:16] <ryushe> again
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[5:18] <ryushe> ok, next question ;)
[5:18] <ryushe> any way to suppress the output onscreen while booting?
[5:18] <rikkib> I have 6 RPi. I am still buying resources. I have two RPi at clients premises.
[5:19] <rikkib> One running on the bench as you can see on my cam and three more without resources.
[5:20] <rikkib> or some resources.
[5:20] <pksato> ryushe: modify /boot/cmdline.txt , inclued on end of line: quiet
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[5:20] <ryushe> awesome
[5:21] <ryushe> well, with it connecting to 3G automatically, that and some other things, I'd say this thing is ready to be shipped off
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[5:21] <ItsMeLenny> does anybody know of a gnaural already compiled for rasbpi
[5:22] <ryushe> pksato: still showing some output there. Any way to completely suppress that?
[5:22] <CelticTurnip> top -ores
[5:22] <CelticTurnip> sorry about that, bouncing a pen up and down on my desk :)
[5:22] <CelticTurnip> and it pasted something from another ssh session :)
[5:23] <rikkib> cat cmdline.txt
[5:23] <rikkib> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait
[5:23] <pksato> ryushe: I dont know how suppress init messages.
[5:23] <ryushe> k
[5:23] <ryushe> well, this is a lot better at least. thanks!
[5:23] <MortifiedPenguin> TAFB, Yo
[5:23] <TAFB> MortifiedPenguin: Sup?
[5:23] <MortifiedPenguin> Not much
[5:23] <MortifiedPenguin> (ParkerR byw)
[5:24] <MortifiedPenguin> *btw
[5:24] <TAFB> and hey, are there any super mind blowing amazing javascript coders in the house?
[5:24] <TAFB> well hey Parker.
[5:24] <TAFB> is that your alter ego?
[5:24] <mbalho> i write java scripts whats your question
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[5:24] <TAFB> I have a javescript, auto page refresher on my status page: http://tafb.yi.org/
[5:25] <TAFB> but in firefox, it thing the page is constantly loading
[5:25] <TAFB> (swirly icon thing).
[5:25] <TAFB> messed up my animated gifs and some other stuff.
[5:25] <TAFB> I copied and pasted the code into JSlint and omg, tons of errors.
[5:25] <TAFB> it super bitched about using document.close
[5:25] <ryushe> that's pretty cool. What's running that? made it yourself?
[5:25] <mbalho> generally to reload a page you do window.location.reload()
[5:25] * rikkib reboots to test quiet mode, out of interest...
[5:26] <TAFB> mbalho: When I use window.location.reload it blanks out the entire page and loads it and draws it all over again
[5:26] <TAFB> that auto refresh thing just smoothly refreshes only what's changed ;)
[5:26] <pksato> ryushe: Is not exact suppress txt on boot, but the result is a which.
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[5:27] <TAFB> ryushe: script is from here: http://www.dynamicdrive.com/dynamicindex6/refresh.htm
[5:27] <ryushe> this might sound dirty, but why not use the meta refresh tag and have that dynamically set?
[5:27] <ryushe> and have a simple counter running that's set to the same length of time?
[5:28] <TAFB> ryushe: meta refresh is the same deal, blanks out the entire page, draws it from scratch.
[5:28] <ryushe> although, as mbalho said, wind.location.reload() should do it
[5:28] <pksato> on cmdline.txt replace tty for ttyAMA0 .
[5:28] <ryushe> window.location.reload() that is
[5:29] <ryushe> pksato: that gets rid of all boot status messages ?
[5:29] <TAFB> ryushe: already tried it, same effect as meta refresh or hitting refresh in your broswer :(
[5:29] <mbalho> if you want dynamic content on a page you should use an evented data transport like websockets, XHR or eventsource
[5:29] <pksato> ryushe: all, except raspberry logo and login prompt.
[5:30] <TAFB> mbalho: I tried to get eventmachine working with Ruba and thin to do it, but no luck getting eventmachine working on the Pi.
[5:30] <ryushe> TAFB: that whole page though, what's that based on? your own thing?
[5:30] <TAFB> my dynamic content makes over 100 shell_exec calls in PHP, not exactly efficient.
[5:30] <ryushe> pksato: testing now, thanks
[5:30] <mbalho> node.js runs on the pi
[5:30] <TAFB> so this is the only way I can update the content and not have it murder ish
[5:31] <ryushe> there are a TON of scripts you can implement that will refresh only parts of your page, using jQuery for instance.
[5:31] <TAFB> there's like 1000 things to update on that page
[5:31] <TAFB> c'mon peeps, it's a pretty simple page refresh script, does exactly what I need cept messes up my animated gif's, this can't be that hard :)
[5:32] <ryushe> pksato: hmm
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[5:32] <ryushe> pksato: besides console, all of them are already set to tttyAMA0
[5:33] <pksato> append to line on cmdline.txt to remove rpi logo logo.nologo
[5:34] <ryushe> TAFB: using chrome here, and I don't see any animated gifs when loading the page the first time. Only thing that's even slightly animated (if that) is the needle on your gauge graph
[5:35] <TAFB> ryushe: I took the animated gif off cause it was messing up (with firefox).
[5:35] <TAFB> if you open the page in firefox you'll see it's continually loading, forever.
[5:36] <xorrbit> your first problem is using php :)
[5:36] <TAFB> xorrbit: lol, if I had $1 for every time you've said that ;)
[5:36] <ryushe> I've been searching with google, but any site that has options listed for the cmdline.txt file?
[5:37] <TAFB> and for the record, this paticular java script problem has nothin to do with php ;)
[5:37] <xorrbit> TAFB: I'm serious
[5:37] <pksato> ryushe: and, now, not more have a login prompt, only a cursor blinking.
[5:37] <TAFB> xorrbit: There is NO php running on the page you are seeing, that page is .html only.
[5:38] <pksato> ryushe: kernel-parameters.txt on Linux kernel Documentation tree.
[5:38] <ryushe> ah duh
[5:42] <ryushe> besides that, seems there's a simple way to set a splash screen that hides everything
[5:44] <Coburn> pfft
[5:44] <Coburn> hiding all the console debug text
[5:45] <pksato> ryushe: some FB image display software can do.
[5:45] <Coburn> nothing better than booting up a big LCD screen in a business and have text flow down the screen while the stuff loads
[5:45] <ryushe> Coburn: haha
[5:45] <Coburn> ryushe: you should also try "quiet"
[5:45] <ryushe> tried that
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[5:45] <ryushe> still get some output at that point
[5:45] <ryushe> it's minimal, but still
[5:46] <Coburn> output from what?
[5:46] <Coburn> kernel or init startup?
[5:46] <ryushe> no need for people to see it's starting apache for instance
[5:46] <Coburn> hack init scripts
[5:46] <Coburn> put clear after the start command
[5:46] <Coburn> ???
[5:46] <Coburn> profit
[5:46] <ryushe> yeah, that's an option
[5:47] <ryushe> I'm gonna try the splashscreen thing first, see how that behaves http://www.edv-huber.com/index.php/problemloesungen/15-custom-splash-screen-for-raspberry-pi-raspbian
[5:47] <pksato> ryushe: to remove login prompt, edit /etc/inittab and comente line of tty1 terminal.
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[5:48] <pksato> or, use omxplayer to play some signage video.
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[5:50] <ryushe> now to make a custom splash screen
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[5:59] <ryushe> so that worked fine
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[6:45] <mbalho> anyone have a recommendation on a camera that does video and works well with raspbian?
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[6:49] <mbalho> oh the foundation is gonna sell a cam soon, nevermind
[6:51] <GriffenJBS> TAFB: you can use innerHTML to replace part of the page
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[6:53] <GriffenJBS> would also allow you to keep from resending the entire page each time, just the diff could be sent
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[7:15] <Mentos> Hey anyone know how to solve the problem where you can only get audio and no video until you toggle resolutions then the video shows? I have to do it every other file it suxs
[7:18] <GriffenJBS> Mentos: using hdmi?
[7:18] <Mentos> yea
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[7:22] <TAFB> GriffenJBS: Thanks :) I tried everything to no avail, then when looking at my server logs I saw it was trying to load a .png image that it thought was 146 gigs!!! It must have got corrupt or something, and this was on my remote webserver (not the Pi!) lol. So it was forever thinking it was still trying to load that PNG. I resafed it with photoshop, re-uploaded it to my web host, and all
[7:22] <TAFB> is well :)
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[7:27] <GriffenJBS> I also recommend ditching the php
[7:27] <TAFB> lol
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[7:29] <DarkTherapy> morning all
[7:29] <TAFB> mornin DarkTherapy :)
[7:29] <TAFB> i had a big nap today so I'm up for staying up late, 1:30am here.
[7:30] <GriffenJBS> east coast
[7:30] <TAFB> been troubleshooting a goofy problem with my status page and firefox all day
[7:30] <TAFB> but got her solved now, turned out to be corrupt .png image (not on the Pi) lol!
[7:30] <DarkTherapy> almost 63,000 views on my siriproxy RasPi project :0|
[7:30] <TAFB> http://tafb.yi.org/
[7:30] <DarkTherapy> in 1 week
[7:30] <TAFB> workin good now, and oh yeah, on port 80 too ;)
[7:30] <TAFB> woot.
[7:31] <TAFB> wow, congrats!
[7:31] <TAFB> is that the "siri, open garage door" one?
[7:31] <DarkTherapy> :)
[7:31] <DarkTherapy> yeah
[7:31] <DarkTherapy> lol
[7:31] <TAFB> that is so sweet ;)
[7:31] <Coburn> Siri, make me a sandwich
[7:31] <Coburn> Siri, do my washing
[7:31] <DarkTherapy> gonna change it to "open the pod bay doors"
[7:31] <Coburn> Siri, make my bed
[7:31] <DarkTherapy> by request
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[7:32] <TAFB> did you see the youtube video where the guy used your code and he does "siri, throw me a beer" and it throws him a beer from his fridge to his couch! sweet.
[7:32] <Coburn> No
[7:32] <Coburn> I didn't
[7:32] <Coburn> linky?
[7:32] <DarkTherapy> nice
[7:32] <TAFB> I'll try and find it, one sec.
[7:32] <Coburn> If that's the case, I'll get a iphone 4s and get siri to do that
[7:32] <DarkTherapy> iPhone 5 ;)
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[7:33] <TAFB> hmm. I tried siri beer throw... damn. I'll dig through my history..
[7:33] <DarkTherapy> if its an old video I've seen, it's not siriproxy
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[7:34] <DarkTherapy> it's a jailbreak tweak to have Siri custom reply or launch script etc
[7:34] <TAFB> ahhhh, could be! damn, I thought for sure it was your code!
[7:34] <DarkTherapy> it's only been around 1 week
[7:39] <Coburn> DarkTherapy: how does it work
[7:40] <DarkTherapy> siriproxy is a script that acts like a man in the middle between Siri and apple, looks for custom sentences and replies with a custom reply and/or action
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[7:40] <DarkTherapy> you change the DNS on your iPhone to that of the proxy basically
[7:40] <DarkTherapy> so it's only on your wifi
[7:43] <DarkTherapy> it's been around for a while for laptop/pc, but I think I put it on the pi first and used the GPIO with it
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[8:21] * josteink is trying to get iscsi work on his raspberry pi
[8:21] <TAFB> good luck :)
[8:21] <josteink> following this guide: http://elinux.org/RPi_iSCSI_Initiator
[8:21] <josteink> I have a iscsi capable kernel, I have discovered the targets
[8:21] * Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk
[8:21] <josteink> but I dont get any new devices after logging in
[8:21] <TAFB> i'm a linux noob, so I may not be of much assistance ;)
[8:22] <TAFB> I had that problem with my SSD drive! Was detected, but wouldn't show up for the life of me!
[8:22] <josteink> would the fact that my iscsi target-server having multiple targets be a possible issue?
[8:22] <TAFB> someone here helped me, I dunno what they did :(
[8:22] <TAFB> works sweet now though?!
[8:22] <josteink> heh
[8:22] <TAFB> http://tafb.yi.org/
[8:22] <josteink> whee
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[8:25] * CelticTurnip returns from work
[8:25] <CelticTurnip> evening all
[8:25] <CelticTurnip> TAFB happy middle of the night to you :)
[8:26] <TAFB> CelticTurnip: Why thank you :) I've had a reques to put my local server time on my Raspberry pi page :) should be easy
[8:27] <CelticTurnip> it's what 2 in the morning for you?
[8:27] <CelticTurnip> it always seems to be 2 or 4 in the morning ;)
[8:27] <TAFB> 2:30am, yep
[8:27] <TAFB> lol
[8:27] <TAFB> I got my page working on port 80 too! woot :) http://tafb.yi.org/
[8:27] <TAFB> man it loads so fast
[8:27] <TAFB> i'm in love :)
[8:27] <CelticTurnip> isn't your time on your page, under uptime?
[8:28] <TAFB> oh,is that what that is? lol
[8:28] <TAFB> i thought it was the uptime counter, not the time
[8:28] <TAFB> lol
[8:28] <TAFB> but you're right, it's correct
[8:28] <TAFB> so how long as my system been up?
[8:28] <CelticTurnip> 32 hours ish
[8:29] <TAFB> is that the 1 day 8:57?
[8:29] <CelticTurnip> yep
[8:29] <TAFB> ahhhhhh
[8:29] <mrhobbz> hmmm do i want an i7 3732qm with an ati 7730m or a nvidia 650m
[8:29] <TAFB> do you think that string will grow in physical length once my uptime gets big, or no?
[8:29] <TAFB> mrhobbz: sounds nice
[8:30] <TAFB> I can't even remember what my i7 is, 3.4 running at 4.2 :)
[8:30] <CelticTurnip> neither - you want an i7 with 2 GTX 680s :P
[8:30] <mrhobbz> this is a laptop
[8:30] <TAFB> I got two 560 Ti's :)
[8:31] <CelticTurnip> okay an i7 with 1x 680M :P
[8:31] <TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/Gateway_i7/IMG_0881_L.png
[8:31] <mrhobbz> i've got an 8 core 8350 w/ 2x 6970s as my desktop
[8:31] <TAFB> nice
[8:32] <CelticTurnip> mrhobbz: I prefer Nvidia cards mainly for the support in FreeBSD :)
[8:32] <CelticTurnip> it really depends on what you want it for IMO
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[8:33] <TAFB> I'm trying to run this command and getting access denied: sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches
[8:33] <TAFB> i tried every combination of sudo, no luck
[8:34] <CelticTurnip> sudo sync && sudo echo 3 blah blah blah :P
[8:34] <CelticTurnip> or just give a sudo su and login as root :P
[8:34] <TAFB> testing...
[8:34] <TAFB> -bash: /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches: Permission denied
[8:35] <TAFB> nuffin
[8:35] <TAFB> how do I check permissions on that target?
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[8:39] <mrhobbz> http://www.mrhobbz.com/desk.jpg http://www.mrhobbz.com/case.jpg
[8:39] <TAFB> nice wiring, very clean
[8:40] <mrhobbz> i need to go back and wrap it all, that kingwin psu didn't come pree wire loomed
[8:40] <mrhobbz> but i had to get rid of the crappy 750w ocz i was running
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[8:41] <TAFB> woot! it worked! sync && sudo /sbin/sysctl vm.drop_caches=3
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[8:53] <lord4163> Hello
[8:53] <TAFB> hello
[8:53] <lord4163> I try to make a backup of my sd card with DD but it's now on 11GB what da foq?
[8:54] <SpeedEvil> hello
[8:54] <TAFB> try rsync
[8:54] <TAFB> one sec for command
[8:54] <SpeedEvil> sync is da shizzle.
[8:54] <TAFB> rsync -aAXv /* /destination/like/dev/sda2 --exclude={/dev/*,/proc/*,/sys/*,/tmp/*,/run/*,/mnt/*,/media/*,/lost+found,/home/*/.gvfs}
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[8:54] <lord4163> But I want a image?
[8:54] <TAFB> oh
[8:55] <TAFB> sry, no idea then :)
[8:55] <lord4163> I don't understand how it could become so large?
[8:56] <lord4163> I don't have so much special on it just raspbian wheezy and some programs
[8:56] <lord4163> and 2 files in my home
[8:56] <Coburn> lord4163: using dd will copy everything, including file particles in unused data
[8:56] <Coburn> use tar
[8:57] <Coburn> like so
[8:57] <Coburn> tar cvpJf /mnt/not-on-my-root/mytar.tar.xz {/dir,/dir,/dir}
[8:58] <john_f> lord4163: dd copies empty space, which compresses well
[8:58] <lord4163> I didn't mount it
[8:59] <john_f> a 4GB card gives a 4GB img
[8:59] <lord4163> Oh k
[9:00] <lord4163> but how can I make an image in that case?
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[9:02] <john_f> with dd, or I don't understand the question
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[9:02] <TAFB> where should I put my script files that I want crontab to run on boot?
[9:03] <xzr> umm
[9:03] <lord4163> usr/share
[9:03] <TAFB> k.
[9:03] <TAFB> thx :)
[9:03] <xzr> doesnt matter really
[9:03] <TAFB> i kept putting them in some var or something that kept getting deleted on reboot!
[9:03] <TAFB> obviously the wrong spot to put it ;)
[9:03] <lord4163> Not really but /usr/share is the location for public files
[9:04] <lord4163> but you can even put it in your home ofcourse, just in your crontab set the right owner ;)
[9:04] <Coburn> [18:03:42] <+TAFB> i kept putting them in some var or something that kept getting deleted on reboot!\
[9:05] <Coburn> . /tmp
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[9:05] <TAFB> so, my entire script says: #!/bin/bash
[9:05] <TAFB> sync && sudo /sbin/sysctl vm.drop_caches=3
[9:05] <TAFB> that look right?
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[9:06] <TAFB> i have to give the file some special permission now right?
[9:06] <john_f> yes +x
[9:06] <lord4163> chmod +x
[9:06] <john_f> and run as root
[9:06] <TAFB> sweet
[9:06] <TAFB> k. done.
[9:06] <TAFB> putting it in sudo crontab -e
[9:07] <john_f> why do you want to drop the disk cache?
[9:07] <TAFB> flush the memory buffer cache
[9:08] <TAFB> ok, so in crontab I have: 59 * * * * /usr/share/clearcache
[9:08] <TAFB> that will run it once per hour right?
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[9:08] <john_f> vm.drop_cache is for read caching
[9:09] <TAFB> I opened a 384mb log file with nano and it used up all my ram, even after I exited.
[9:09] <TAFB> running that command free'd it up
[9:09] <gordonDrogon> mornig
[9:09] <TAFB> so now it says I have all of it available :)
[9:09] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: morning :)
[9:09] <gordonDrogon> TAFB, you should never need that normally.
[9:09] <gordonDrogon> Linux will cache as much stuff in RAM as possible - it's makes it really efficient.
[9:09] <john_f> i think you are misreading which ram in use
[9:10] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: I know, but I want my "free memory" to look pretty and clean on my stats page.
[9:10] <TAFB> not "free memory" = 0 :(
[9:10] <gordonDrogon> what command are you running to list free memory?
[9:10] <TAFB> not sure, it's on my stats page, one sec.
[9:10] <gordonDrogon> because ideally, you actually /want/ free memory to be zero.
[9:10] <gordonDrogon> that means your RAM is actually being used....
[9:10] <TAFB> rofl
[9:10] <gordonDrogon> if it's not being used, you might as well not have it!
[9:11] <TAFB> free -o -h
[9:11] <TAFB> 322MB in "buffers" :(
[9:11] <gordonDrogon> that's good!
[9:11] <TAFB> that command cleaned er right out
[9:12] <Dagger2> why the :(?
[9:12] <TAFB> not a big nano log file buffer I dun need
[9:12] <TAFB> lol
[9:12] <Dagger2> well, I'll just cut to the chase and link to http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ now
[9:12] <gordonDrogon> Linux will take care of it better than you can.
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[9:12] <john_f> TAFB: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[9:12] <Dagger2> john_f: welcome to 18 seconds ago. :p
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[9:13] <TAFB> alright, so I got my crontab all saved, what's the command to restart crontab so my new job starts running every hour?
[9:13] <john_f> Dagger2: he doesn't sound convinced
[9:13] <gordonDrogon> cron auto re-reads crontab.
[9:13] <TAFB> oh, so it'll just start running once per hour? woot :)
[9:13] <TAFB> free memory for me
[9:13] <gordonDrogon> slow Pi for you.
[9:13] <TAFB> rofl
[9:14] <john_f> giant red text should help
[9:14] <Dagger2> er... yeah, all you're doing is making things worse for yourself
[9:14] <gordonDrogon> seriously, no-one does what you're doing unless they're testing something.
[9:14] <TAFB> rofl
[9:14] <TAFB> i'm testing
[9:14] <TAFB> pi performance with free ram
[9:15] <gordonDrogon> e.g. here is one of my servers: It has 16GB of RAM. Currently 8GB is being used for cache:
[9:15] <gordonDrogon> total used free shared buffers cached
[9:15] <gordonDrogon> Mem: 16143 9794 6348 0 303 7848
[9:15] <gordonDrogon> Swap: 8032 88 7943
[9:15] <gordonDrogon> That's 8GB that it doesn't have to read off disk!
[9:16] <TAFB> i can't see that your "free" says
[9:16] <TAFB> my irc runs in like 320x240 so ish line wraps bad
[9:16] <gordonDrogon> sorry.
[9:16] <TAFB> what's your "free" number
[9:16] <gordonDrogon> 6348
[9:16] <gordonDrogon> 6GB
[9:16] <TAFB> nice :)
[9:17] <lord4163> gordonDragon if you have a website running the files won't get loaded from hdd but from ram?
[9:17] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/free.txt
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[9:17] <TAFB> purrrdy
[9:17] <gordonDrogon> lord4163, that's the idea
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[9:17] <TAFB> my Pi never swaps, so it's not clearing anything from there ;)
[9:17] <Dyskette> My pi runs so much faster if I turn swap off
[9:17] <lord4163> yes
[9:17] <Dyskette> Things like scp stall out if it tries to hit swap
[9:17] <gordonDrogon> and don't wory about a small MB of swap being used either - thats just Linux making space for more cache/buffers.
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[9:18] <lord4163> but when you use over 512MB you have a little prob :D
[9:18] <gordonDrogon> swapping on the Pi is really slow anyway )-:
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[9:18] <Dyskette> Yeah, SDcard is not the best RAM stand-in :P
[9:19] <gordonDrogon> nothing is..
[9:19] <TAFB> My SSD isn't much better ;)
[9:19] <xzr> uh huh ssd
[9:19] <xzr> which reminds me I have a spare one
[9:19] <john_f> TAFB: to see what you are accomplishing cat a 100MB file twice after running that script. time cat foo > /dev/null
[9:19] <john_f> see how much faster the second run is
[9:20] <TAFB> eed: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-17-RaspberryPi_with_external_drive.jpg
[9:20] <TAFB> I do all my own performance testing thanks ;) http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/Patriot_EP_32GB_vs_Sandisk_Extreme_120GB_SSD_Performance_in_RaspberryPi_large.png
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[9:21] <lord4163> nice case btw :)
[9:21] <TAFB> thx :)
[9:22] <john_f> if a drive benchmark is any good it disables the cache to make it repeatable
[9:22] <TAFB> there's a link to it under the raspberry logo on my Pi status page: http://tafb.yi.org/
[9:22] <TAFB> john_f: iozone was set to disable cache, and I used a 1gb test file just to make sure
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[9:23] <john_f> TAFB: i don't care how fast your drives are, a cache in ram is still faster than it
[9:23] <TAFB> for sure, which is why I said my SSD ain't much better than SD for ram ;)
[9:23] <john_f> the second time cat > /dev/null shows the effect of the cache
[9:24] <john_f> and what you are giving up with that cron job
[9:25] <TAFB> who me? my cron job is schedueled for once per hour, ready to rock. I checked my script, I can run it from the prompt, so I assume crontab should be able to as well.
[9:25] <schemanen> tafb: do you use any heat sink or something, 27 C is not mutch
[9:25] <TAFB> schemanen: Look at the case I'm running
[9:25] <TAFB> schemanen: click the link on the status page, it's like one big heatsink
[9:26] <TAFB> schemanen: It's got aluminum posts inside that contact the CPU, GPU and voltage regulator to keep them all cool.
[9:26] <TAFB> Plus I'm in canada, it's cold right now, and the room temp is 21c cause the furnace shuts off at night.
[9:26] <john_f> eh, i give up
[9:27] <schemanen> hehe, ok, really nice, where did you find that box for your pi?
[9:27] <TAFB> john: did you see all the free ram on my status page? woot :)
[9:27] <TAFB> schemanen: there's a link to where you can buy one, right above the picture of it: http://tafb.yi.org/
[9:27] <john_f> it is still free without that cron job
[9:28] <TAFB> nope, it gets "filled up" :)
[9:28] <lord4163> just put it in the cellar at -30 :D
[9:28] <schemanen> ohh, nice, I will order one right away :)
[9:28] <TAFB> schemanen: did you see the price?
[9:28] <john_f> so change the status page to use the correct free option
[9:29] <TAFB> john_f: pffft. If that thing says free=0 then dammit I'm free'n it up!
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[9:31] <lord4163> So how do I make an image without the empty space?
[9:31] <john_f> lord4163: you can't
[9:32] <TAFB> schemanen: When you order that case, order some Arctic Silver 5 thermal paste along with it. The "thermal grease" that comes with that case is garbage stuff and didn't do much to cool the Pi. After I cleaned that crap off and put on Arctic Silver 5 my temps dropped huge.
[9:32] <john_f> you can compress it during/after
[9:32] <john_f> or copy files
[9:32] <lord4163> okay and if I compress it, it will get like 3GB?
[9:33] <john_f> zeros compress easily
[9:34] <john_f> 1.9G archlinux-hf-2012-09-18.img
[9:34] <john_f> 159M archlinux-hf-2012-09-18.zip
[9:34] <lord4163> how do I compress it at the same time?
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[9:35] <john_f> dd if=/dev/sdc bs=64k | gzip foo.img.gz
[9:36] <john_f> that bs is a bit silly
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[9:40] <Weaselweb> john_f: why dd and not cat? especially when you pipe it
[9:42] <john_f> cat can't set silly base sizes?
[9:42] <john_f> block sizes I mean
[9:43] <mrhobbz> damnit
[9:43] <john_f> I guess it will work
[9:43] <mrhobbz> why won't dell just sell me a laptop with no os
[9:43] <TAFB> order it with freeDOS
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[9:43] <mrhobbz> don't have that option
[9:44] <john_f> or some fancy gzip foo.img.gz < /dev/sdc
[9:44] <TAFB> call them, they'll do it. saves $50 off the price :)
[9:44] <mrhobbz> on their support chat now
[9:44] <TAFB> woot
[9:44] <mrhobbz> going to see if i can get it without a hdd too
[9:45] <Weaselweb> john_f: why do you want to set block sizes if you read the whole device?
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[9:45] <john_f> Weaselweb: it can make it faster
[9:46] <atmosx> hello
[9:46] <atmosx> CEA is for TV and DMT for computer monitors?
[9:46] <Weaselweb> lol, cat reads as much and as fast as it can, dd will not get faster
[9:46] <atmosx> I'm trying to configure my Samsung 32" TV but it's harder that I first thought
[9:46] <john_f> http://kim.oyhus.no/FlashBlockSize.html
[9:46] <TAFB> I need to disable CEA, every time I reboot my Pi it turns my TV on, my plasma is gonna get some serious burn in :(
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[9:47] <mrhobbz> TAFB: i had that happen over the weekend lol
[9:47] <mrhobbz> was on for about 16 hours at the raspbmc menu
[9:47] <mrhobbz> turned it off for a day, burn in gone woot
[9:48] <TAFB> nice
[9:48] <atmosx> TAFB: what is CEA?
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[9:48] <TAFB> watch this video, you can see the raspi-config window when my tv first turns on :( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNDeQMNCOiw
[9:48] <jjensonmiyw> Hey is there anyone around?
[9:48] <TAFB> atmosx: It's a way to control your TV over HDMI, tell it to witch inputs, etc.
[9:49] <Weaselweb> john_f: so what? strace cat ... shows it reads 64k at once
[9:49] <jjensonmiyw> anyone here know much about retroarch?
[9:50] <mrhobbz> sigh.. dells' chat support folks haave pretty poor reading comprehension
[9:50] <TAFB> rofl
[9:50] <jjensonmiyw> Worse when you talk to them
[9:50] <jjensonmiyw> on phone
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[9:51] <jjensonmiyw> Just wondering ran into a problem while trying to configure my usb gamepad for retropi or retroarch which ever name you prefer and no idea how to get it to work
[9:51] <mrhobbz> "can I order this with an OEM windows install, I.E. no other preinstalled software"
[9:51] <mrhobbz> it comes with windows 8 standard
[9:51] <mrhobbz> ...
[9:51] <jjensonmiyw> I might just start fresh if no one has worked with it
[9:51] <lord4163> it doesn't work no such file !
[9:52] <lord4163> -_-
[9:52] <TAFB> "can I get it without McAfee, Norton Online, and carbonite 360 backup please?" ... "Um, you're computer wouldn't work then sir." WRONG! IT DOESN'T WORK WITH THAT ISH IN IT!
[9:52] <mrhobbz> 03:50:48 steven briggs
[9:52] <mrhobbz> is it possible to order it with no operating system installed?
[9:52] <mrhobbz> 03:51:21 Cristina L
[9:52] <mrhobbz> If you will take that off, then you wouldn't get your money's worth.
[9:52] <mrhobbz> lols
[9:52] <jjensonmiyw> lol
[9:52] <TAFB> rofl
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[9:53] <jjensonmiyw> start out with buying something other than dell
[9:53] <mrhobbz> nah, getting a rather nice corporate discount
[9:54] <lord4163> Anyone please?
[9:54] <jjensonmiyw> Not sure I can help but what is your question lord?
[9:54] <mrhobbz> every toshiba i've had has fallen apart, the last asus i had got sent back half a dozen times and my last hp held up surprisingly well for it not being a tough book
[9:54] <john_f> lord4163: ...gzip > foo.img.gz
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[9:56] <lord4163> dd if=/dev/sdc bs=64k | gzip > foo.img.gz
[9:56] <lord4163> ?
[9:56] <john_f> yep
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[10:02] <GriffenJBS> mrhobbz: either way your paying the windows tax
[10:03] <mrhobbz> meh
[10:03] <mrhobbz> doesn't matter to me
[10:03] <atmosx> is there a better than to randomly testing overscans to adjust picture on a samsung 32" tv?
[10:03] <TAFB> mrhobbz: Sorry, I was mistaken! It was an HP laptop I ordered with freedos and saved $50, not dell. Sorry for the confustion.
[10:03] <mrhobbz> ah gotcha
[10:04] <TAFB> atmosx: berryboot has a sweet overscan tester thing.
[10:04] <atmosx> berryboot what is that?
[10:04] <mrhobbz> Im cool paying the windows tax GriffenJBS as it'll be getting windows installed on it anyway
[10:04] <TAFB> http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot
[10:04] <TAFB> an you use dd to make an image of your drive with a target to FTP?
[10:05] <atmosx> TAFB: okay
[10:05] <GriffenJBS> I wish I could trade them back, I have so many MS licenses, it's rather sad.
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[10:05] <mrhobbz> yeah indeed lol
[10:06] <mrhobbz> i wish i could just order one without a drive or OS. I have an MSDN license and a few ssd's and a hybrid drive sitting here
[10:07] <GriffenJBS> TAFB: what is pancake doing to use +10% of your pi?
[10:08] <TAFB> GriffenJBS: I have PHP on a constant loop doing dynamic page updates.
[10:08] <TAFB> GriffenJBS: If I move it to a 15 second delay, it only uses 1.5% cpu ;)
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[10:10] <GriffenJBS> I'm running a similar server and with top running it's < 3%, top is about 1.5% alone
[10:10] <TAFB> nice
[10:11] <TAFB> php is running over 100 shell_exec calls to pull data :)
[10:11] <GriffenJBS> constant loop doing updates that go ..? nowhere? the page self refreshes once every 30 sec
[10:11] <lord4163> Lol TAFB that's a expensive case :P
[10:11] <GriffenJBS> yeah about that, I rewrote it in node and changed most of those to simple file reads
[10:11] <TAFB> twice the price of the Pi :)
[10:12] <TAFB> GriffenJBS: I like users to have the freshest data possible when they arrive. And if you click the refresh link on the page really fast it's like "live" ;)
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[10:12] <TAFB> GriffenJBS: I'm not worried about a bit of CPU usage. If it starts to get out of hand I'll bump it down to 15 second updates.
[10:12] <GriffenJBS> so it'll only take a few of us to DOS your pi?
[10:13] <GriffenJBS> the node version I wrote caches the results, so no matter how many request they all get the same copy
[10:13] <TAFB> GriffenJBS: You'll crash my home cable modem before you do the Pi. I've load tested it to 160 pages per second :)
[10:14] <GriffenJBS> your upload should be much lower than your download, so yeah, it's rather easy to do
[10:14] <TAFB> lord4163: If you think that case was expensive, just think about the SSD drive it's sitting on in that picture ;)
[10:14] <TAFB> GriffenJBS: Yeah, tell me about it :( http://www.speedtest.net/result/2376827100.png
[10:14] <GriffenJBS> ssd via usb seems rather strange too
[10:14] <lord4163> lol anyway I think it's much compared to my $5 dollar case :D
[10:15] <TAFB> I use to have 8mbps upload, but they blocked port 80 and 25 = no email or web server :(
[10:15] <TAFB> GriffenJBS: Check out the performance difference, from fastest SD card IOPS on earth, to SSD: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/Patriot_EP_32GB_vs_Sandisk_Extreme_120GB_SSD_Performance_in_RaspberryPi_large.png
[10:17] <TAFB> I found my mail server does mostly 4k writes and couldn't figure out why the performance was so crappy. Works much much better on SSD :)
[10:17] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: you replaced your Sandisk with a Kaminario? DAMN
[10:17] <GriffenJBS> I don't doubt that, but compare those stats to the max found for that SSD on SATA III
[10:17] <TAFB> I know it's "almost" a waste on USB 2.0 ;) lol.
[10:18] <TAFB> it's even in a usb 2.0 drive tray :)
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[10:22] <GriffenJBS> I wonder when someone will finally start making a 3cm cube with a processor, ram and bus interface, nothing else, then a backplane with a controller and peripherals
[10:22] <CelticTurnip> sounds like a job for Intel :)
[10:22] <CelticTurnip> I want a 3cm i7 based cube :)
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[10:23] <GriffenJBS> you'll have problems with heat
[10:23] <CelticTurnip> yep, 3cm cude with 85cm heatsink fins ;)
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[10:29] <atmosx> when I change /boot/config.txt options do I need to reboot ?
[10:30] <TAFB> yep
[10:30] <TAFB> are you using mine?!?
[10:30] <TAFB> they'll void your warranty
[10:30] <TAFB> if you reboot
[10:30] <atmosx> what are yours?
[10:30] <TAFB> http://tafb.yi.org/
[10:30] <atmosx> I'm trying to configure overscan
[10:30] <TAFB> bottom of page
[10:30] <TAFB> read warning
[10:30] <TAFB> OH, okies. thought you were overclockin
[10:31] <atmosx> Ah no, I see what you did there.
[10:31] <atmosx> Nic ejob ;-)
[10:31] <TAFB> thx
[10:32] <atmosx> hmm it's a huge pain, I have to re-create all my banners jeez.
[10:32] <DarkTherapy> I thought over clocking didnt void the warranty any more?
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[10:33] <MortifiedPenguin> DarkTherapy, the force_turbo
[10:33] <MortifiedPenguin> Just overclocking doesnt
[10:33] <TAFB> DarkTherapy: There's some options that do
[10:33] <TAFB> raise temp limit
[10:33] <MortifiedPenguin> Messing with over voltage and stuff does
[10:33] <DarkTherapy> I see
[10:33] <DarkTherapy> k
[10:33] <TAFB> voltage forced over 1.35v
[10:33] <TAFB> temp limit raised over 85c
[10:33] <TAFB> etc.
[10:34] <TAFB> for some reason my Pi can't connect to the FTP server on my computer (they are on the same network) :(
[10:35] <shiftplusone> DarkTherapy, warranty void condition: (force_turbo || current_limit_override || temp_limit>85) && over_voltage>0
[10:35] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: get this for your Pi http://www.kaminario.com/products/k2-solid-state-san-storage.php - that should do for mail :)
[10:36] <DarkTherapy> shiftplusone: rite, thanks
[10:36] <atmosx> I'm getting kinda paranoid
[10:36] <atmosx> there's no fucking to way to display the video on=screen it goes off-screen no matter what I do. I get no sound also (but that might the hdmi cable)
[10:37] <gordonDrogon> atmosx, *cough* see topic.. *cough*
[10:37] <atmosx> yeah I was fouled out :-(
[10:38] <atmosx> thing is, I can't proceed with my work if I can't fix this and it's a pitty to have parts of the screen unused
[10:38] <TAFB> i can't figure out why my Pi can't ftp into my windows box :(
[10:38] <CelticTurnip> either can we if you don't tell us what it's saying :P
[10:38] <frikinz> Firewall?
[10:39] <CelticTurnip> Linux has logs btw :P
[10:39] <TAFB> ftp
[10:39] <DarkTherapy> TAFB: tried ftp://user:password@ip:21 ?
[10:39] <TAFB> ftp: connect: Connection timed out
[10:39] <TAFB> i'm at the shell Dark
[10:39] <nid0> tried your local network ip?
[10:39] <TAFB> that is my local network ip
[10:39] * CelticTurnip backs away slowly
[10:39] <TAFB> I'm looking at the server program, doesn't even see an attempted connection :(
[10:40] <nid0> so you're not behind nat?
[10:40] <DarkTherapy> can it ping the sever?
[10:40] <TAFB> the pi and the pc running ftop are on the same network
[10:40] <frikinz> TAFB: I'm connected on your ftp: 220 BulletProof FTP Server ready ...
[10:40] <TAFB> yep, ping works fine
[10:40] <TAFB> frikinz: not that ftp server
[10:40] <nid0> TAFB: doesnt answer the question
[10:41] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: your web info page used to have your local networ as 192.x.x.x - um wt would it be 99.x.x.x :P
[10:41] <TAFB> nid0: i don't know how to answer your question. The pi and my computer are plugged into the same switch, private IP's, why would nat have anything to do with it?
[10:41] <nid0> well so if they have private ips, isnt the network ip of your computer is it, thats a routable Rogers cable address
[10:42] <nid0> my question was, try connecting to the FTP server using your private network ip
[10:42] <TAFB> the ip address of the computer is
[10:42] <TAFB> i pasted the command I was using above
[10:42] <TAFB> ftp
[10:42] <TAFB> ftp: connect: Connection timed out
[10:42] <nid0> so are you using nat or not?
[10:42] <TAFB> I would assume my modem/router uses nat, yep
[10:43] <nid0> so, whats the private, local network, not routable, not provided by rogers, ip address of the computer on your network
[10:43] <TAFB> the ftp server is, again,
[10:43] <TAFB> the pi is
[10:43] <nid0> maybe you want to look at that again.
[10:44] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: you're external IP is
[10:44] <CelticTurnip> you're doing it completely wrong :P
[10:44] <CelticTurnip> get on your windows machine and get your internal IP
[10:44] <CelticTurnip> the 1 that starts with 192....
[10:44] <atmosx> what the diff between pal and ntsc I wonder
[10:44] <TAFB> why would I use my external IP? lol.
[10:44] <CelticTurnip> because you're an idiot?
[10:44] <nid0> because you're internal to your network.
[10:44] <atmosx> apart the fact that one is for eu and the other for jp/usa
[10:44] <CelticTurnip> PING cpe602ad07b91a5-cm602ad07b91a2.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com ( 56 data bytes
[10:44] <CelticTurnip> that's you
[10:44] <shiftplusone> Hm, can someone confirm that xecdesign.com works? Seems to load fine from my phone, but I can't resolve the IP from my local network for some reason. =/
[10:44] <CelticTurnip> that's your external IP :P
[10:45] <TAFB> my windows box with the ftp server: IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
[10:45] <nid0> unless your local network connection is routing through your nat gateway, it wont understand that port 21 needs to go to your computer with the ftp server on it when using your public address
[10:45] <TAFB> i'm not using the public address
[10:45] <frikinz> shiftplusone: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/xecdesign.com is up
[10:45] <nid0> you are, IS a public address
[10:45] <TAFB> I'M NOT USING 99.243
[10:45] <TAFB> lol
[10:45] <CelticTurnip> shiftplusone: xecdesign.com came up here
[10:46] <nid0> you've just said like 10 times that you are
[10:46] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: we know :P
[10:46] <shiftplusone> frikinz, CelticTurnip, thanks
[10:46] <TAFB> on the Pi, i'm telling it CONNECT TO ON PORT 21
[10:46] <TAFB> what about that can it not understand?
[10:46] <shiftplusone> time to kick the router until it works I suppose
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[10:46] <TAFB> the router shouldn't be routing anything
[10:46] <MortifiedPenguin> 99 doesnt seem like a local IP address
[10:46] <TAFB> on internal to internal ip
[10:46] <nid0> again, your 99 address is not internal
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[10:47] <nid0> if you're behind nat, its your gateway's address
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[10:47] <TAFB> is the internal ip of the Pi
[10:47] <TAFB> is the internal ip of the ftp server
[10:47] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: your external IP is 99.x... what you want to do is ftp yourwindowsmachinesactualinternaladdress
[10:47] <CelticTurnip> it's not that hard
[10:47] <frikinz> TAFB: no, router don't always route external back to internal
[10:47] <lord4163> I can connect to it anyway?
[10:47] <nid0> TAFB: you're not listening. is not an internal address
[10:47] <lord4163> 220 BulletProof FTP Server ready ...
[10:47] <nid0> it is a routeable address provided by Rogers cable
[10:47] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: get on your windows machine, type ipconfig /all ... learn...
[10:47] <TAFB> lord4163: that's a different server on my network
[10:48] <TAFB> on my windows machine
[10:48] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: that's the 1 you have port forwarded to the internet
[10:48] <nid0> so you have 2 FTP servers on your network
[10:48] <TAFB> ipconfig
[10:48] <nid0> on port 21
[10:48] <TAFB> is here.
[10:48] <nid0> and on nat?
[10:48] <CelticTurnip> 99.x is your internet address...
[10:48] <lord4163> in that case you maybe have to use an other port?
[10:48] <CelticTurnip> it's not that hard
[10:48] <TAFB> Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
[10:48] <TAFB> Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
[10:48] <TAFB> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :
[10:48] <TAFB> Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . :
[10:48] <TAFB> Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
[10:48] <nid0> so then that machine is in fact not behind nat
[10:48] <TAFB> that's my INTERNAL ftp server
[10:48] <nid0> so we're right back to the start
[10:48] <CelticTurnip> remember that time you failed at networking? it's right now :P
[10:48] <nid0> when you said it was
[10:48] <frikinz> mmmhhh default gateway not on the same subnet as the IP adress
[10:48] <TAFB> my god people.
[10:48] <frikinz> intersting
[10:49] <TAFB> is the internal IP of my ftp server.
[10:49] <nid0> no it isnt
[10:49] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: trust me there's only 1 person coming across as annoying here... it's you
[10:49] <CelticTurnip> learn how to network
[10:49] <nid0> its a routeable external address
[10:49] <TAFB> is the internal IP of my Pi
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[10:49] <nid0> and it means you're not behind naty
[10:49] <nid0> -y*
[10:49] <nid0> which means you have part of your network using nat and part not
[10:49] <nid0> and the fact you dont even know that means you wont make it work
[10:49] <TAFB> lol, I have a router, with computers connected to it.
[10:49] <frikinz> TAFB: does interwebs work from this windows machine?
[10:50] <TAFB> yep, I'm talking to you on it now
[10:50] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: so configure it properly...
[10:50] <CelticTurnip> give it a valid IP addrss and ove on
[10:50] <CelticTurnip> move
[10:50] <TAFB> pretend I didn't have a router
[10:50] <lord4163> I don't understand a shit of it haha do you use multiple routers?
[10:50] <TAFB> why wouldn't it work then?
[10:50] <TAFB> lord4163: just one router.
[10:50] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: you've completely screwed your network
[10:50] <nid0> TAFB: same reason. your PI is using nat, your windows computer isnt
[10:50] <lord4163> how can one get 192.x.x.x. and other 99.x.x.x o.0
[10:50] <TAFB> why would my Pi be using nat?
[10:51] <nid0> because it is
[10:51] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: stop talking, and listen
[10:51] <TAFB> 99.x.x.x. is the IP of my router
[10:51] <CelticTurnip> that's it's external IP
[10:51] <TAFB> yep
[10:51] <TAFB> i know
[10:51] <lord4163> finally
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[10:51] <nid0> TAFB: do you know what nat is.
[10:51] <CelticTurnip> it's internal address is
[10:51] <CelticTurnip> your Pi's is 192.168.1.XXX
[10:51] <CelticTurnip> what's wrong with this picture?
[10:51] <TAFB> yep, thing in the router that connects external stuff to the diff internal ip's
[10:51] <nid0> exactly.
[10:51] <CelticTurnip> your Windows machines internal IP is 99.blah
[10:51] <nid0> and as you've said
[10:52] <TAFB> router is
[10:52] <TAFB> pi is .95
[10:52] <nid0> your pi has an internal, non routable IP
[10:52] <TAFB> server is .97
[10:52] <nid0> = its using NAT
[10:52] <TAFB> right
[10:52] <CelticTurnip> give your Windows machine an IP of 192.168.1.whatever
[10:52] <nid0> but your windows machine is using an external, routable ip, not an internal oner
[10:52] <CelticTurnip> and then port forward if you want too
[10:52] <nid0> = its not using NAT.
[10:52] <TAFB> my windows machine has
[10:52] <nid0> yes
[10:52] <nid0> thats an external routeable ip.
[10:52] <CelticTurnip> ... which is stupid :P
[10:52] <nid0> not an internal one
[10:52] <TAFB> my windows machine is using internal non-routable ip, exact same IP setup as the Pi
[10:52] <nid0> no it isnt
[10:52] <MortifiedPenguin> Gaah
[10:53] <nid0> is routeable
[10:53] <MortifiedPenguin> This is making my head hurt
[10:53] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: it if was it would be (etc)
[10:53] <CelticTurnip> can we swear yet?
[10:53] <TAFB> if my Pi is and my server is how could one bet routerable and one be not/
[10:53] <nid0> internal IP addresses are 10.xx.xx.xx, 172.16-31.xx.xxx.xx, and 192.168.xx.xx
[10:53] <nid0> ALL OTHER ips are routeable
[10:53] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: your bloody internal network is 192.168.x.x
[10:53] <MortifiedPenguin> because 99.x is routable and 192.x is not
[10:53] <CelticTurnip> think about it
[10:53] <TAFB> yep, both have internal, 192.168.x.x and 192.168.x.x
[10:53] <CelticTurnip> apply logic
[10:54] <CelticTurnip> so what's the Windows machines internal IP?
[10:54] <CelticTurnip> if it has 1?
[10:54] <lord4163> reset your router, reinstall windows :D
[10:54] <TAFB> CelticTurnip: the windows machine is
[10:54] <frikinz> Private ip are non routable on border router, they are on private networks
[10:54] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: you're fucked!
[10:54] <nid0> TAFB: are you reading what you're writing?
[10:54] <MortifiedPenguin> TAFB, Did you set a static IP on WIndows?
[10:54] <TAFB> CelticTurnip? why?
[10:54] <CelticTurnip> seriously how hard is it?
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[10:54] <nid0> [09:53] <+TAFB> yep, both have internal, 192.168.x.x and 192.168.x.x
[10:54] <nid0> [09:54] <+TAFB> CelticTurnip: the windows machine is
[10:54] <TAFB> MortifiedPenguin: of course.
[10:54] <nid0> spot the difference.
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[10:54] <MortifiedPenguin> TAFB, Unset that
[10:54] <MortifiedPenguin> Ask it to ask the DHCP server
[10:54] <TAFB> the windows machine is NOT, that's my modem/router, lol
[10:55] <CelticTurnip> give the Windows machine a 192.168.1.blah IP and be done with it
[10:55] <MortifiedPenguin> You will see it gets a 192.x
[10:55] <TAFB> the windows machine has 192.168.1.blah, it's
[10:55] <MortifiedPenguin> "<TAFB> IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . :"
[10:55] <MortifiedPenguin> Ran in Windows
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[10:55] <TAFB> I can't use when I'm behind a router
[10:55] <CelticTurnip> behind? sometimes you're infront of it?
[10:55] <nid0> yet you're the one whos been saying for 20 minutes that you are
[10:56] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: you do know that 192.... and 99 aren't the same number right?
[10:56] <TAFB> listen, my windows pc with the ftp server is, the pi is, they are on the same internal network
[10:56] <nid0> TAFB: you're the one not listening
[10:56] <nid0> or reading what you're writing, it seems
[10:56] <lord4163> the windows machine is NOT, that's my modem/router, lol
[10:56] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: for them to be on the same network they need the same IP range... let me give you a hint
[10:56] <TAFB> i'm trying, but you guys keep talking about public external ip.
[10:56] <CelticTurnip> it starts with
[10:56] <CelticTurnip> on your network
[10:56] <CelticTurnip> 192.168.1.something
[10:56] <TAFB> they are on the same range.
[10:57] <TAFB> shoot.
[10:57] <nid0> TAFB: LOOK at the actual numbers you're writing
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[10:57] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: quick question for oyu
[10:57] <TAFB> right, both the pi and computer are 192.168.1.x
[10:57] <nid0> unless they start with the same numbers, they arent in the same range.]
[10:57] <CelticTurnip> are these 2 numbers the same?
[10:57] <CelticTurnip> 99 and 192
[10:57] <frikinz> it could be good to see the routes on windows
[10:57] <CelticTurnip> yes or no?
[10:57] <TAFB> where do you get 99?
[10:57] <TAFB> what computer has 99?
[10:57] <TAFB> none
[10:57] <nid0> TAFB - its the number you keep giving us
[10:57] <TAFB> it's not
[10:57] <nid0> hence, YOU NEED TO READ WHAT YOU'RE WRITING
[10:58] <TAFB> ok, let me try again :)
[10:58] <CelticTurnip> okay I've figured out, you're drunk or on drugs
[10:58] <TAFB> there's no 99's i'm about to type:
[10:58] <lord4163> yes you did you wanted to connect to ftp server on from your pi?
[10:58] <TAFB> my computer:
[10:58] <TAFB> my pi:
[10:58] <nid0> seriously?
[10:58] <TAFB> there is no 99 in there.
[10:58] <CelticTurnip> um dude what's the first number?
[10:58] <TAFB> show me 99?
[10:58] <nid0> TAFB: its the first number you wrote.
[10:58] <TAFB> first bumber is 192.
[10:58] <nid0> [09:58] <+TAFB> there's no 99's i'm about to type:
[10:58] <nid0> [09:58] <+lord4163> yes you did you wanted to connect to ftp server on from your pi?
[10:58] <nid0> [09:58] <+TAFB> my computer:
[10:58] <TAFB> I didn't write that!
[10:58] <lord4163> whatta!
[10:58] <nid0> yes you did
[10:59] <TAFB> no I didn't
[10:59] <lord4163> TAFB: my computer:
[10:59] <TAFB> one sec for screen capture!
[10:59] <TAFB> one sec
[10:59] <nid0> we all saw it, its what you've been writing for the past 20 minutes
[10:59] <TAFB> this is nuts
[10:59] <TAFB> no, i haven't wrote 99 once!
[10:59] <TAFB> i swear
[10:59] <nid0> show of hands people?
[10:59] <TAFB> hold on for screen cap
[10:59] * CelticTurnip greps 99 in logs
[10:59] <CelticTurnip> 8000 times :P
[10:59] <lord4163> Lol what did you smoke?
[11:00] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: seriously it's kinda funny that you're smashed on IRC, but dude maybe time to have a beer and chill out :P
[11:00] <TAFB> http://likestuff.globat.com/Untitled.png
[11:00] <TAFB> look
[11:00] <CelticTurnip> why?
[11:00] <CelticTurnip> we all have irc :P
[11:00] <nid0> you've got one messed up IRC client
[11:00] <TAFB> i'm writing 1 9 2 . 1 6 8 . 1 . 9 7 is my windows pc
[11:00] <CelticTurnip> you've said 99.x a billion times
[11:00] <TAFB> my pi is 1 9 2 . 1 6 8 . 1 . 9 5
[11:00] <TAFB> look at the screen cap
[11:01] <TAFB> never said 99
[11:01] <TAFB> ever
[11:01] <nid0> its replacing every instance of you write with for all of us
[11:01] <TAFB> why would it do that?
[11:01] <TAFB> rofl
[11:01] <nid0> beats me
[11:01] <TAFB> no wonder you guys thought i was on drugs
[11:01] <TAFB> rofl.
[11:01] <frikinz> :) some irc ascii helper
[11:01] <nid0> but we're all seeing every time
[11:01] <TAFB> that's nuts
[11:01] <TAFB> even if I type this:
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[11:01] <TAFB> MY COMPUTER IP IS 1 9 2 . 1 6 8 . 1 . 9 7
[11:01] <nid0> thats fine
[11:01] <TAFB> OK
[11:01] <nid0> its 192
[11:02] <TAFB> i'll do it like that from now on
[11:02] <TAFB> ok, lets start over
[11:02] <lord4163> lol!
[11:02] <TAFB> my computer IP is 1 9 2 . 1 6 8 . 1 . 978
[11:02] <TAFB> whops
[11:02] <TAFB> 97
[11:02] <TAFB> at the end
[11:02] <TAFB> my pi is 1 9 2 . 1 6 8 . 1. 9 5
[11:02] <TAFB> lol
[11:02] <lord4163> you delete mIRC and install empathy or irssi :D
[11:02] <TAFB> lord4163: for sure i should
[11:02] <nid0> so what address are you trying when ftp'ing
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[11:02] <CelticTurnip> 99... :P
[11:03] <lord4163> what was that?
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[11:03] <CelticTurnip> there's no place like 99.blah
[11:03] <TAFB> I'm on the Pi, I type in ftp 1 9 2 . 1 6 8 . 1 . 9 7
[11:03] <lord4163> yes?
[11:03] <TAFB> without the spaces
[11:03] <TAFB> and it says: ftp: connect: Connection timed out
[11:03] <CelticTurnip> type the number without spaces, I wanna see that 99 again :P
[11:03] <TAFB> but on the windows ftp server, I don't even see a connection attempt
[11:03] <TAFB> CelticTurnip:
[11:03] <lord4163> what ftp server do you use? vsftpd? proftpd?
[11:03] <TAFB> lol
[11:03] <nid0> okay, network wise thats fine then
[11:03] <nid0> can you ftp elsewhere from the pi?
[11:04] <TAFB> the server is FileZilla
[11:04] <TAFB> on port 21
[11:04] <TAFB> no firewall
[11:04] <CelticTurnip> dude put irssi or weechat on your Pi, then log back on :P
[11:04] <TAFB> lol
[11:04] <xzr> apt-get install nmap
[11:04] <lord4163> You set up a server on your windows desktop with filezilla and you try to connect it from your pi?
[11:04] <xzr> nmap -PN -p21 host
[11:04] <TAFB> k. doing nmap
[11:05] <CelticTurnip> apt-get install weechat
[11:05] <TAFB> lord4163: yep, I'm going to DD a backup over ftp
[11:05] <TAFB> 40mb for nmap? yikes.
[11:05] <xzr> 40mb :o
[11:05] <TAFB> Failed to fetch http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/libw/libwmf/libwmf0.2-7_0.2.8.4-10_armhf.deb 404 Not Found
[11:05] <nid0> apt-get update
[11:05] <nid0> then try again
[11:06] <TAFB> k.
[11:06] <frikinz> netcat would be sufficient
[11:06] <lord4163> use samba ?
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[11:06] <TAFB> f samba
[11:06] <xzr> yeap nc works as well
[11:06] <lord4163> mount -o cifs or something huh?
[11:06] <nid0> TAFB: can you ftp to other servers from the pi?
[11:06] <lord4163> really easy
[11:07] * CelticTurnip really wants to find the person who wrote that MIRC IP screwing up script and give them a nice trout slap :)
[11:07] <xzr> nc -z host 21
[11:07] <nid0> fwiw, its not mirc itself, he must have filters or something setup
[11:07] <frikinz> CelticTurnip: or maybe its the router?
[11:07] <TAFB> nid0: nope, can't ftp to my other ftp server at 1 9 2 . 1 6 8 . 1 . 9 8
[11:07] <TAFB> k. update done, doing nmap again
[11:08] <CelticTurnip> type it without the spaces TAFB I'm ready to lose it again :)
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[11:08] <TAFB> CelticTurnip: f u
[11:08] <CelticTurnip> :)
[11:08] <TAFB> :)
[11:08] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: no word of a lie, that 1 thing has made you my favourite person on this channel
[11:08] <nid0> 98 will work without the spaces :P its just 97, his machine is translating to his public address
[11:08] <xzr> router fw/port fwd rules shouldnt affect lan side
[11:08] <CelticTurnip> that kicks ass on so many levels :)
[11:08] <TAFB> did ya like that screen cap? lol
[11:08] <CelticTurnip> you broke the channel for nearly an hour... legend!
[11:08] <TAFB>
[11:08] <TAFB> did it work?
[11:08] <CelticTurnip> no
[11:09] <CelticTurnip> I got
[11:09] <CelticTurnip> you guys?
[11:09] <nid0> liar
[11:09] <CelticTurnip> :P
[11:09] <TAFB> k. spaces it is
[11:09] <TAFB> what?
[11:09] <TAFB> guys
[11:09] <TAFB> c'mon
[11:09] <TAFB> it's 5am here
[11:09] <TAFB> my brain is done
[11:09] <CelticTurnip> :P
[11:09] <xzr> i have no idea what's going on
[11:09] <TAFB> ok
[11:09] <nid0> he lied, its only .97 thats being changed
[11:09] <TAFB> nid0: ok
[11:09] <TAFB> good to know for future reference
[11:09] <TAFB> k. nmap is installed
[11:09] <TAFB> what do I run again?
[11:09] <nid0> if you cant connect to any FTP server, what does iptables -L output/?
[11:09] <xzr> nmap -PN -p21 host
[11:09] <xzr> or nc -z host 21
[11:10] <lord4163> TAFB: use sabmba!!!!
[11:10] <TAFB> http://pastebin.com/0qnZb9qM
[11:10] * CelticTurnip sets mode +TAFB_LEGEND
[11:10] <TAFB> lol
[11:10] <lord4163> TAFB: right click on folder and click share folder lol and connect to it ;)
[11:10] <xzr> uhuh
[11:10] <TAFB> lord4163: you have no f'ing idea how broke my windows shares are, don't even get me started.
[11:11] <CelticTurnip> I really wish I logged IRC on this machine, because that was so bash worthy it's insane :)
[11:11] <frikinz> replace host by the REAL host
[11:11] <xzr> yea check iptables .L
[11:11] <nid0> TAFB: iptables -L
[11:11] <TAFB> ok, running iptables.
[11:11] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: remove Windows, install OpenBSD, enable FTP done :)
[11:11] <xzr> but like
[11:11] <TAFB> Chain INPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[11:11] <TAFB> target prot opt source destination
[11:11] <TAFB> Chain FORWARD (policy ACCEPT)
[11:11] <TAFB> target prot opt source destination
[11:11] <TAFB> Chain OUTPUT (policy ACCEPT)
[11:11] <TAFB> target prot opt source destination
[11:12] <nid0> hold on
[11:12] <nid0> like frikinz said
[11:12] <frikinz> replace host by the REAL host
[11:12] <nid0> in the nmap, you need to replace host with
[11:12] <TAFB> oh
[11:12] <TAFB> lol
[11:12] <TAFB> ok, one sec.
[11:12] <lord4163> Hmmm my backup failed I did the backup command but it got the same size with gzip
[11:13] <MortifiedPenguin> I love my highly detailed (and totally not done in mspaint) diagrams http://i.imgur.com/fRMeD.png
[11:13] <xzr> oh
[11:13] <xzr> lol yea didnt notice that
[11:13] <TAFB> http://pastebin.com/gXQYM725
[11:13] <xzr> in the pastebin
[11:13] <xzr> ok open
[11:13] <xzr> so your network is fine
[11:14] <nid0> wait
[11:14] <nid0> we're back to the question of ips again
[11:14] <TAFB> what?
[11:14] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: to honour you I shall do the following
[11:14] <nid0> did you run the nmap with your local ip or your routeable ip?
[11:14] <nid0> cos your paste shows your public address
[11:14] <TAFB> I did nmap -PN -p21 1 9 2 . 1 6 8 . 1 . 9 7
[11:14] <nid0> not your network ip
[11:14] <TAFB> omfg
[11:14] <TAFB> i see that
[11:14] <TAFB> wtf
[11:14] <xzr> hmm
[11:14] <nid0> so its not just irc
[11:14] <nid0> you got one messed up computer
[11:14] <xzr> :D
[11:14] <TAFB> :(
[11:14] <xzr> or you need to cut down on meth
[11:15] <frikinz> MortifiedPenguin: Not clear; the linksys forwards a few ports FROM (should'nt it be to?) the GS2
[11:15] <TAFB> i have no idea what it could be
[11:15] <CelticTurnip>
[11:15] <CelticTurnip>
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[11:15] <TAFB> maybe I can cut and paste the ip address?
[11:15] <CelticTurnip>
[11:15] <TAFB> hold on
[11:15] <TAFB> GO AWAY IP
[11:15] <lord4163> TAFB: U use Putty? It's shit?
[11:15] <MortifiedPenguin> frikinz, I mean it forwards a few ports to the outside world
[11:15] <TAFB> yeah, putty
[11:15] <lord4163> TAFB: Use Linux on your desktop :P
[11:15] <CelticTurnip> or OpenBSD
[11:15] <TAFB> ok guys, if I put: ftp *paste ip here* it works
[11:15] <TAFB> lol
[11:15] <TAFB> problem solved
[11:15] <MortifiedPenguin> What were you trying?
[11:15] <nid0> so this is your whole problem
[11:16] <CelticTurnip> you want me to paste IP?
[11:16] <nid0> the pc changing the ip you're typing
[11:16] <CelticTurnip>
[11:16] <CelticTurnip> there you go
[11:16] <TAFB> yep
[11:16] <TAFB> nid0
[11:16] <TAFB> if I type the IP, it changes it, but if I paste it in putty, it works
[11:16] <nid0> regardless of where you type it its translating its local ip to your internet facing address
[11:16] <xzr> :D
[11:16] <CelticTurnip> and once again Windows amazes me with it's suckification
[11:16] <xzr> that cant be
[11:16] <xzr> :D
[11:16] <nid0> thats not windows
[11:16] <CelticTurnip>
[11:16] <MortifiedPenguin> CelticTurnip, Ok we get it
[11:16] <TAFB> ok, now, back to 2 hours ago when I was trying to DD an image of my Pi over FTP... lol
[11:16] <CelticTurnip> shh nid0 i'm trying to get him to install OpenBSD
[11:17] <xzr> GO GENTOO
[11:17] <atmosx> why should anyone install openbsd again?
[11:17] <CelticTurnip> atmosx: if you need to ask you're not ready :P
[11:17] <TAFB> man it's going to be funny to read these logs in the morning :)
[11:17] <atmosx> CelticTurnip: or you don't have time to lose...
[11:17] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: you won IRC this night :)
[11:17] <axion> they shouldnt. freebsd is just as secure these days except not with ancient or missing software
[11:18] <CelticTurnip> axion: yeah FreeBSD is nice too, I use that also
[11:18] <TAFB> just for completeness, with pasted IP: http://pastebin.com/GucfjceA
[11:18] <jelly1> openbsd is still very different to freebsd though :P
[11:18] <axion> it is ofc
[11:18] <CelticTurnip> if I want a quick 5 minute server I go with OpenBSD, if I've got the tiem I'll use FreeBSD
[11:18] <TAFB> ofc = oxygen free copper (i.e. car audio power cable)
[11:18] * nid0 is a centos man
[11:19] <CelticTurnip> axion: of course your comments about FreeBSD being as secure probably don't hold up with FreeBSD being broken in to a month or so back :P
[11:19] <CelticTurnip> but whatever
[11:19] <jelly1> CelticTurnip: meh
[11:20] <jelly1> well isn't openbox securerer out of the box
[11:20] <axion> openbsd has much older software, at the expense of supposedly better security
[11:20] <CelticTurnip> jelly1: nothing to do with out of the box, the FreeBSD server farm got owned :(
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[11:20] <jelly1> CelticTurnip: well a part iirc
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[11:21] <CelticTurnip> jelly1: they handled it properly though and life goes on
[11:21] <jelly1> sure since everything get's hacked
[11:21] <atmosx> axion: actually, PF lacks some features under freebsd.
[11:21] <axion> and squid is on version 2 in openbsd
[11:22] <CelticTurnip> probably because OpenBSD uses a new version :P
[11:22] <axion> a major version behind
[11:22] <atmosx> but apart from very specific features, openbsd is as you described
[11:22] <axion> there are others too
[11:22] * jelly1 hasn't touched my *BSD though
[11:22] <atmosx> CelticTurnip: no, it's because development of PF is made by their team so new features are pushed into the tree as they happen
[11:22] <atmosx> and test of course
[11:22] <lord4163> just install Elementary OS Luna :)
[11:22] <CelticTurnip> yeah I'm trolling a lame troll :P
[11:22] <lord4163> Lovely Linux distro
[11:22] <jelly1> meh
[11:23] <TAFB> crap man, when you read the screen cap top to bottom, it's so friggen funny: http://likestuff.globat.com/Untitled.png
[11:23] <TAFB> it starts and stops at like the perfect spots.
[11:23] <jelly1> people still use mirc :o
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[11:23] <MortifiedPenguin> There's your problem
[11:23] <MortifiedPenguin> mIRC
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[11:23] <axion> i started with linux
[11:23] <lord4163> no empathy :D
[11:23] <TAFB> after this ip address fiasco, i better use somethin else.
[11:23] <atmosx> does anyone have a samsung tv running with raspberry Pi and ovescan disabled?
[11:24] <MortifiedPenguin> xchat/xchat variants
[11:24] <TAFB> my TV is LG, did not have to fondle the overscan option
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[11:25] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: like I said irssi or weechat :)
[11:25] <MortifiedPenguin> I like Hexchat myself http://i.imgur.com/pNp0P.png
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[11:25] <axion> weechat is much easier to configure and get help for on irc
[11:25] <xzr> irssi is awesum
[11:25] <xzr> though weechat seemed alright too
[11:25] <jelly1> irssi is only for perl hackers
[11:25] <xzr> just don't see any reason to change
[11:25] <axion> and people not with the times
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[11:26] <CelticTurnip> irssi was my go to client, I hated weechat when I tried it, had to configure it for a while to get to a point where I liked it
[11:26] <axion> it has /iset
[11:26] <xzr> I dunno what there is on irssi to configure really
[11:26] <xzr> well autochannels I guess
[11:26] <axion> irssi does not. configuring takes minimal time
[11:26] <axion> for weechat
[11:26] <xzr> what does iset do
[11:27] <atmosx> hmm
[11:27] <axion> a menu driven configuration system
[11:28] <axion> you can get iset with weechat's script package manager
[11:28] <axion> weeget
[11:28] <axion> something else irssi does not have
[11:28] <axion> but man do i like smart filters the best
[11:28] <axion> every irc client should have them
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[11:29] <xzr> uh huh
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[11:29] <xzr> dunno man, never found irssi to take too much configuring
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[11:30] <jelly1> http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Developer-preview-of-Java-SE-8-for-ARM-now-available-1772644.html
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[11:30] <lord4163> who wants java :D
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[11:30] <axion> then stick with the 2 year old unmaintained past
[11:30] <derrida> clojure coders
[11:31] <axion> go to bed
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[11:31] <derrida> /script replaced /weeeget ;P
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[11:31] <derrida> built-in!
[11:31] <TAFB> how so I find out what my ssd is called? for dd backup?
[11:31] <derrida> o7
[11:31] <CelticTurnip> TAFB: mount
[11:32] <TAFB> i ran mount, i dun see it in there.
[11:32] <CelticTurnip> if it's mounted you would :P
[11:32] <jelly1> lord4163: i want to fill up my ram
[11:32] <TAFB> http://pastebin.com/kgweMnjZ
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[11:32] <lord4163> ah okay
[11:32] <CelticTurnip> dmesg
[11:32] <TAFB> yikes that's a big list
[11:33] <john_f> is lsblk on your install?
[11:33] <jelly1> findmnt!
[11:33] <jelly1> well that's even bigger :(
[11:33] <TAFB> http://pastebin.com/F9FhuMQA
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[11:33] <jelly1> what is the problem btw :p
[11:34] <TAFB> i need to find /dev for my ssd to back up with dd
[11:34] <jelly1> /dev is devtmps..
[11:34] <TAFB> it needs /dev/ssdname
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[11:35] <jelly1> fdisk -l
[11:35] <jelly1> as superuser ofcourse
[11:35] <TAFB> woot
[11:35] <TAFB> that worked
[11:35] <TAFB> thanks jelly
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[11:35] <TAFB> .. /dev/sda2 2048 232339455 116168704 83 Linux
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[11:36] <lord4163> you can also use df -h or lshw -short -C disk
[11:37] <jelly1> df -h only shows mounted disks
[11:37] <lord4163> ah okay
[11:38] <TAFB> ok, i'm trying to run: put "|sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 bs=512k count=1000|gzip 2012-12-20-backup.img.gz -f -9"
[11:39] <TAFB> but i get: 550 Filename invalid
[11:39] <TAFB> gzip: 2012-12-20-backup.img.gz: No such file or directory
[11:40] <john_f> gzip -9 > filename
[11:40] <TAFB> ahh
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[11:42] <TAFB> 550 Filename invalid
[11:42] <TAFB> sh: 1: cannot create 2012-12-20-backup.img.gz: Permission denied
[11:42] <TAFB> hmmmmm
[11:42] <MortifiedPenguin> Turns out adding 25.media.tumblr.com to hosts was the best idea ever http://i.imgur.com/yMEDI.png
[11:42] <john_f> TAFB: sudo -i and then run it
[11:43] <TAFB> i'm in ftp
[11:43] <lord4163> john_f: I got a file of 33GB -_-
[11:44] <john_f> lord4163: how big was the original?
[11:44] <lord4163> the sd card is 32GB
[11:44] <john_f> ah
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[11:45] <TAFB> woot! got it workin! put "|sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 bs=512k count=1000|gzip -9" 2012-12-20-backup.img.gz
[11:46] <TAFB> gzip is using 50% of the cpu :)
[11:46] <lord4163> you do that on the pi itself?
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[11:47] <TAFB> lord4163: yep, running it inside ftp on the pi, and it's dumping the compress image onto my windows box
[11:47] <MortifiedPenguin> Neat
[11:48] <MortifiedPenguin> I take it the bs is low because if the network?
[11:48] <TAFB> bs?
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[11:48] <MortifiedPenguin> bs=512k
[11:48] <TAFB> yeah, I tried it at 1m and it was very very slow
[11:48] <TAFB> didn't try higher
[11:48] <MortifiedPenguin> How much it reads at a time
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[11:49] <TAFB> should I try higher like 16?
[11:49] <MortifiedPenguin> No
[11:49] <TAFB> ahh
[11:49] <MortifiedPenguin> The network would lag behind probably
[11:50] <TAFB> it's running local, not over the internet. it's doing about 1.8mb/sec right now
[11:50] <MortifiedPenguin> Ahh nice
[11:50] <john_f> lord4163: i guess you could fill up the partition with a file full of zeros and remove it before dd'ing
[11:50] <MortifiedPenguin> Also nice to know you can dd the drive that is currently being used
[11:51] <TAFB> MortifiedPenguin: yeah, that's the best part :)
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[11:51] <MortifiedPenguin> I usally just plop the SD card into my linux box and dd it from there sudo dd if=/dev/mmcblk0 of=backup.img
[11:51] <TAFB> john_f: you mean so he can compress all of the free space? just run sudo ionice -c 3 fstrim -v /
[11:51] <MortifiedPenguin> *usually
[11:52] <TAFB> and that'll clean all the junk space off
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[11:52] <frikinz> if the disk is written to, not sure if mount will like it on the other side..
[11:52] <TAFB> frikinz: my disk is gettin written too constantly right now
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[11:53] <TAFB> but to a file that isn't important
[11:53] <john_f> TAFB: yes
[11:53] <TAFB> so if it gets messed up, no biggie.
[11:53] <frikinz> TAFB: yes. I've also done a dd from partition to partition over network using netcat
[11:54] <TAFB> nice! my windows shares are so broken, I couldn't use samba, lol
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[11:56] <TAFB> alright, 6am. I'ma let this backup run and get some sleep
[11:57] <TAFB> thanks for the laughs guys
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[11:57] <TAFB> hey shiftplusone
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[11:57] <shiftplusone> hey
[11:57] <shiftplusone> and good night
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[11:57] <MortifiedPenguin> s/laughs/headdesks/
[11:57] <TAFB_zzz> i'm dd'ing an image off my booted SSD over FTP to my windows box using gzip ;)
[11:58] <MortifiedPenguin> TAFB_zzz, We know
[11:58] <MortifiedPenguin> We see
[11:58] <jelly1> ftp so slow
[11:58] <TAFB_zzz> i was talking to shift :)
[11:58] <TAFB_zzz> jelly1: It's doing 1.8mb/sec right now, not bad for gzip -9
[11:58] <TAFB_zzz> ftp is on my local network, not internet
[11:59] <jelly1> sure
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[11:59] <TAFB_zzz> nite nite peeps, sleep good
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[12:04] <TAFB_zzz> backup complete!
[12:04] <TAFB_zzz> super fast over ftp :)
[12:04] <TAFB_zzz> nice
[12:04] <TAFB_zzz> gzip -9 it's only 524mb! :)
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[12:12] <As4xk> Hi. I can't login through ssh (username pi, password raspberry). I have downloaded the latest recommend image (2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian), and installed it three times. The password prompt asks for password three times before "Permission denied (publickey,keyboard-interactive)." is returned. It doesn't seem like it's a common problem for this version. Do anyone have any idea what i can do?
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[12:13] <TAFB_zzz> on first boot it does into raspi-config right? you have a display and keyboard hooked up?
[12:13] <dr_willis> set a new password and add a new user. pwrhaps
[12:13] <As4xk> No. I only have ssh
[12:13] <TAFB_zzz> it's not enabled by default, you have to turn it on
[12:13] <As4xk> do i have to login localy first?
[12:14] <dr_willis> ahh. a totally headless install
[12:14] <TAFB_zzz> yep
[12:14] <dr_willis> i think you do. theres some variants i think that may habve ssh ebabled at fisrt boot
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[12:15] <[SLB]> but he said "The password prompt asks for password three times"
[12:15] <[SLB]> so it's already enabled
[12:20] <As4xk> yes ssh is enables by default. Why would the pi user not be allowed ssh access as default. There must be more than me that wants to use only ssh from day one?
[12:21] <dr_willis> security concerns
[12:22] <dr_willis> im guessing. ;-)
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[12:25] <As4xk> Damn you security! I dont have a usb keyboard :p
[12:26] <As4xk> Thanks for you help :)
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[12:38] <frikinz> As4xk: does it really ask for password OR passphrase?
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[12:52] <Grievre> I wonder how hard it would be to turn the Pi into a logic analyzer
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[12:53] <Grievre> and if it's possible, what rate it could work at
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[13:04] <fortytwo> As4xk: Could always copy your public key into your pi's authorised keys using a card reader, can make sure the config file is correct while you're doing that
[13:05] <fortytwo> Might work
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[13:05] <SpeedEvil> or just get a. keyboard
[13:06] <fortytwo> Sounds far too easy
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[13:11] <samuel02> does anyone have experience with getting the logitech performance mx mouse working on the pi?
[13:11] <samuel02> or any other logitech mouse? I'm not using the wireless stuff
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[13:12] <axion> no experience, but define 'working'
[13:13] <dr_willis> most any usb mouse should work.
[13:13] <samuel02> axion, I can move the mouse and the pointer moves on the screen, left and right buttons can be clicked :)
[13:13] <axion> thats not true
[13:13] <dr_willis> unless it sucks down so much power it gets wonky.
[13:13] <axion> samuel02: and it is doing what now?
[13:13] <samuel02> axion, nothing
[13:13] <axion> kernel output?
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[13:14] <dr_willis> so the mouse was working. and now its not?
[13:15] <axion> what does your kernel detect?
[13:15] <samuel02> axion, sorry, but how?
[13:15] <axion> type dmesg unplug and plug it back in, then type dmesg again
[13:15] <samuel02> dr_willis, no it's not been working at all, doing a apt-get upgrade now
[13:15] <samuel02> axion, k just a sec
[13:15] <frikinz> Isn't it logitech keyboard which needed some heavy work of reverse engineering?
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[13:16] <dr_willis> been using logitech keybordsa here on my pis - no issues.
[13:17] <dr_willis> my deathadder mouse works also. but it may draw more power rhen the pi has. ;) i got it in a powered hub
[13:17] <axion> you people should get familiar with your keyboard. theres no need for a mouse :)
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[13:18] <frikinz> Here, no tv, no keyboard, no mouse :)
[13:19] <dr_willis> i got a remote controll that emulates a keybord. ;)
[13:19] <dr_willis> and mouse
[13:19] <dr_willis> was $8 on amazon
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[13:20] <axion> ok, pointing device
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[13:21] <samuel02> axion, sure but it's kind of hard to run a browser without one :)
[13:21] <axion> not at all
[13:21] <samuel02> axion, don't talk about lynx
[13:21] <axion> im not
[13:21] <axion> any web browser with hinting
[13:21] <axion> quite a few
[13:21] <axion> you want to be more productive, start learning how much faster the keyboard is, especially for web browsing
[13:21] <samuel02> axion, I'd love to
[13:22] <axion> still waiting to help you
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[13:22] <samuel02> axion, thanks! I'm still waiting for apt upgrade to finish :)
[13:23] <axion> wow, the sun's up? another late night of coding
[13:23] <samuel02> samuel02, be glad you get to see the sun :) where I live we won't see it until april
[13:24] <samuel02> haha, don't know why I directed that to myself
[13:24] <frikinz> I hate going to bed when sun gets up. Unless I come from a party..
[13:24] <frikinz> samuel02: where are you?
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[13:25] <samuel02> frikinz, northern sweden
[13:27] <frikinz> Hum some nice sat ground station in kiruna
[13:27] <axion> well the sun might not come up after tonight ;)
[13:27] <atmosx> I seriously doubt I can play properly video on this screen hm
[13:27] <atmosx> I tired all possible combinations nothing works
[13:28] <axion> i like how people just says "doesnt work" without giving a full detailed description/error message/log/configuration file, and expect us all to have crystal balls
[13:28] <dr_willis> im used to it.. im in #ubuntu all the time.
[13:28] <atmosx> too much to explain here.
[13:28] <atmosx> just doesn't work .-
[13:29] <atmosx> only to get images is to use default values and 1200x680 and forget about videos.
[13:29] <samuel02> frikinz, ?
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[13:29] <frikinz> What do you mean it doesn't work? What happens when you try to run it? What's the output? What's the error message? Is it unemployed? What did you expect to happen? We need more information to help you.
[13:30] <frikinz> samuel02: wut?
[13:30] <atmosx> frikinz: okay, I'm trying to setup screenly (a digital signage software) on a Samsun 32" screen. Apparently there's an overscan issue with most TV's.
[13:30] <atmosx> so either I have to use 3/4 of the TV space or try to figure out the the overscan byself, or use one of the hdmi_modes listed in wiki page. I tried everything nothing worked very well.
[13:30] <frikinz> samuel02: sat ground station? I work on a satellite project and one of the main station is in kiruna http://www.altimetry.info/html/alti/dataflow/acquisition_en.html
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[13:32] <atmosx> Eventually I figured out how to display images in full screen just by adjusting manually all images to a specific resolution which is nowehre near defaults??? But works. Thing is that omxplayer video doesn't respect boarded so in the display you can see the 4/5 of the video but doesn't 'fit' it.
[13:32] <atmosx> which sucks.
[13:32] <axion> ensure your tv is in native mode
[13:32] <samuel02> frikinz, I see! I actually applied for a summer job there some years ago
[13:32] <atmosx> axion: do I do that in TV settings?
[13:32] <axion> yes
[13:33] <axion> make sure its not stretched, letter box, wide, etc...just normal or whatever they call it
[13:33] <atmosx> let me check the manual
[13:33] <samuel02> axion, do apt upgrade done. dmesg doesn't report nothing and so does lsusb - no difference when it's plugged or not
[13:33] <atmosx> I use 16:9
[13:33] <atmosx> should I change that to??? I don't know let me check
[13:33] <axion> the tv's aspect does not matter. make sure the picture matches the aspect
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[13:35] <axion> you have an elipsis key?
[13:35] <axion> cool
[13:36] <atmosx> the tv picture works fine
[13:36] <atmosx> elipsis key?
[13:36] <samuel02> axion, funny! I thought the wireless stuff would be problematic so I connected it with cable, now I tried to just connect the wireless plug and it works!
[13:36] <atmosx> brb
[13:36] <samuel02> axion, thanks anyways
[13:37] <axion> samuel02: what was the problem then?
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[13:38] <axion> samuel02: by chance did apt upgrade finish when you tried this?
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[13:39] <samuel02> axion, not sure. yeah it was after it had finished but I didn't even try with the wireless stuff to begin with
[13:39] <axion> it sounds like your mouse is drawing too much power then
[13:39] <axion> oh wireless?
[13:39] <axion> yeah...anything using more than 1 unit load of power you should attach to a powered hub
[13:40] <samuel02> maybe.. yes?
[13:40] <samuel02> ok
[13:40] <axion> a unit load is 100mA
[13:40] <axion> which is practically nothing
[13:41] <axion> some keyboards with a lot of leds/multimedia keys dont even work without external power
[13:41] <samuel02> axion, I see..
[13:41] <samuel02> axion, thanks a lot for all info and help!
[13:42] <axion> no prob good luck
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[13:42] <samuel02> axion, thanks! you alright?
[13:43] <axion> long night of coding...getting ready to crawl to my bed
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[14:11] <[Enrico]> hi there. Since I am quite new to rpi, can I ask what kind of 2d/3d accelerations are available at the moment?
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[14:14] <prscarp> So what is the average ship time for a pi? I just ordered one the other day and I know it used to be months, is it still?
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[14:16] <dr_willis> i just got mine after 4+ mo. ;) need to order 2 more
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[14:22] <megaproxy> prscarp, depends where you order from
[14:22] <megaproxy> RS are normally quite slow
[14:22] <megaproxy> i heard farnel are quicker
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[14:23] <atmosx> axion: what doyou code?
[14:23] <prscarp> oh man, lol dr_willis where did you order from?
[14:24] <prscarp> megaproxy: I ordered mine from http://www.alliedelec.com/
[14:24] <prscarp> you know anything about them?
[14:24] <megaproxy> nooo idea
[14:24] <megaproxy> no harm in shooting them an email
[14:25] <prscarp> Didnt think about that, its worth a try
[14:25] <prscarp> I'm surprised theyre still so scarce
[14:25] <megaproxy> supply and demand :P
[14:25] <megaproxy> they seem to trickle out the factory
[14:26] <megaproxy> then get swept away by people like me :D
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[14:26] <prscarp> haha, what do you use it for? Still not sure what im going to do with it
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[14:28] <dr_willis> a little hardee to get them in the usa from american companies. ;)
[14:28] <prscarp> lol great.. :P
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[14:28] <dr_willis> i think i got mine from alliedelectronics? i forget the name
[14:29] <dr_willis> i got xbmc going on the 2, working as media players and upnp servers
[14:30] <prscarp> is xbmc buggy?
[14:30] <dr_willis> wife wants one... no idea why.. ;) she thinks its cute in its box
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[14:30] <dr_willis> prscarp: ive not had many issues with it
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[14:30] <dr_willis> had more issues with the pi itself . getting good power and conections and keeping it safe from the grandkids
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[14:31] <prscarp> lol gotcha, what does it require power wise?
[14:32] <dr_willis> a good cellphone charger. ;)
[14:32] <dr_willis> not a cheap one.. with cheap wires
[14:32] <prscarp> what about the output?
[14:33] <dr_willis> been using my kindle fire charger. anfd some 2A chargers i founr for $8 with travelocity brand
[14:33] <dr_willis> kindel is like 1.8A i think
[14:34] <dr_willis> my .7A chargers dont work well.
[14:34] <dr_willis> i use them to power my usb speakers
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[14:35] <prscarp> may need to look for one then, i dont think i have one that puts out more then 1A
[14:35] <dr_willis> ive collected a box of the things. ;)
[14:35] <dr_willis> from all my old phones.
[14:36] <dr_willis> .5a to 2A
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[14:36] <dr_willis> some guys use these power supplies from electronic projects.
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[14:38] <dr_willis> i wonder if using a charger going into one of those cellphone usb battery packs would work well. got a $70 battery, 12000mAH with 2 outputs.
[14:38] <dr_willis> i wonder if it would be cleaner power
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[14:50] <prscarp> dr_willis: cleaner how?
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[14:54] <dr_willis> seems power spikes/surges can cause issues. like if plugging in a usb device.
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[14:55] <dr_willis> noticed a few reboots when plugging in a mouse/keybord straight to the pi. but it could be i jostled the pi.
[14:58] <prscarp> Oh, I would think a battery would be worse at that, but I dont really know anything about that either
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[15:01] <dr_willis> well ya got a ps chargring the battery, and the battery can put out more juice then the ps. ;)
[15:02] <prscarp> What kind of battery is it?
[15:02] <dr_willis> right now my Pi is a little cluttered. got a ps to the pi. then a ps to the powered hub..
[15:02] <dr_willis> newtrent 12000 mAh - has 2 usb outs 2A and 1A.
[15:03] <prscarp> this? http://www.amazon.com/New-Trent-IMP120D-Thunderbolt-Blackberry/dp/B003ZBZ64Q
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[15:05] <dr_willis> thats the one.
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[15:05] <dr_willis> its sort of big. ;)
[15:06] <dr_willis> seeing how long it runs my phone now
[15:07] <prscarp> looks nice, and thats a huge capacity
[15:07] <prscarp> Ive got a baby one.. i think its like 2000mah or something
[15:07] <dr_willis> ive collected several batterys over the last 2 years
[15:08] <dr_willis> ircing on my phone all day
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[15:12] <dr_willis> i need a phone with an e-ink display to save power. not like i need a fancy display for ircing.
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[15:14] <prscarp> There wasnt ever an irc app made for one of those kindles, was there?
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[15:15] <dr_willis> hmm.. got a kindle 3g ;) i think i tried the webchat on its browser once
[15:15] <dr_willis> dident work well
[15:15] <dr_willis> but at least it had a keybord
[15:16] * BurtyB has used mibbit on mine
[15:16] <dr_willis> i saw a protptype phone had a normal display on one side. and e-ink on the back.
[15:16] <prscarp> i think i saw a cheap no name brand tablet like that too
[15:17] <prscarp> well, in book form
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[15:23] <Freshcoat> Hiii
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[15:24] <GriffenJBS> dr_willis: I've been looking for an e-ink screen with a usb interface, should be cheap and handy, no battery or buttons needed
[15:25] <Freshcoat> Damn, just broke my sd-card insert :(
[15:26] <Freshcoat> the side parts who keep the sd-card in position are very fragile
[15:26] <dr_willis> GriffenJBS: ive seen usb monitors. but no e-ink ones
[15:26] <Freshcoat> I needed to stick my sd-card with clue now.. LOL
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[15:30] <confusid> 0_0
[15:30] <confusid> you broke the little tabs?
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[15:32] <Freshcoat> yes
[15:32] <Freshcoat> omg
[15:32] <Freshcoat> no, 'flaps' I guess
[15:33] <Freshcoat> the 2 sides who give pressure on the sd-card and keep it in position
[15:33] <Freshcoat> :+
[15:33] <confusid> if there is a radio shack near you might buy one and replace it?
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[15:33] <Freshcoat> its easy to replace the sd insert?
[15:33] <dr_willis> i need to swing by R.S today.. sad how they seem to become just cellphone stores
[15:34] <confusid> I have on another board and it was tough but doable
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[15:34] <confusid> does suck... I use to buy all kinds of tiny things to make stuff now most of what I need has to be ordered.
[15:35] <JesseC> anyone know a store that isn't several months out in terms of shipping?
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[15:36] <Freshcoat> hmmmm, I will looking for that :)
[15:37] <confusid> I ordered mine on this past friday and got it on tuesday. so 4 day's for it.
[15:37] <JesseC> which store?
[15:37] <confusid> http://www.mcmelectronics.com
[15:37] <martk100> Is there any other on screen keyboard other than matchbox-keyboard which will work on the pi?
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[15:37] <confusid> but it looks as they are out at the moment.
[15:37] <confusid> :/
[15:37] <JesseC> D=
[15:38] <confusid> a package deal is what I went for so they had a board set aside for it.
[15:38] <JesseC> I'd like to order like 20 of them to use in a big project, but can't wait 2 months. This sucks. ;<
[15:38] <confusid> http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14421
[15:38] <confusid> actually board is in stock
[15:39] <JesseC> wonderfu
[15:39] <JesseC> wonderful*
[15:39] <confusid> catch I found is they charged me 13 for shipping.
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[15:42] <crazyk> dr_willis: they've gotten a lot better. For awhile there, it seems that's all they were. They have a lot of "maker" type stuff now.
[15:42] <dr_willis> crazyk: :) not like it was baxck in my ham radio days
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[15:46] <pmagi> Hi folks, I'm trying to use GPIO pins and a relayboard. I have the relayboard hooked up to the pins and it got power. Would it be possible to get some help to figure out how to control the relays?
[15:47] <pmagi> I looked at this for guidance: http://badgerbooth.com/raspberry-pi-relay-gpio-php-class/
[15:47] <xorrbit> pmagi: check this http://www.susa.net/wordpress/2012/06/raspberry-pi-relay-using-gpio/
[15:47] <pmagi> I edited the pinout so it would match rev b, but now i don't know how to proceed
[15:47] <prscarp> confusid: have you ever ordered from MCM before? I may cancel my order with allied and order from them
[15:48] <xorrbit> pmagi: pretty detailed guide on that site on how to do it
[15:48] <pmagi> xorrbit thank you
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[15:50] <confusid> I ordered mine this past friday and received mine on tuesday. Been playing with it for the past 2 days
[15:50] <prscarp> oh wow, are you in the US?
[15:50] <confusid> took 4 day's total for it to be delivered
[15:50] <confusid> yes
[15:50] <confusid> East Coast
[15:50] <prscarp> awesome :) me too
[15:51] <prscarp> yea im switching
[15:52] <prscarp> if I can figure our how to cancel.. anyone know how to cancel an order with allied electronics?
[15:52] <adb> vopor made , in front off coast
[15:52] <confusid> may have to call them to cancel
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[15:53] <prscarp> Ok, guess Ill do that then
[15:54] <pmagi> xorrbit ok, so i just verified that the relay works :) I can set it on/off with echo "1/0"
[15:54] <xorrbit> nice
[15:55] <xorrbit> what are you controlling with the relay if you don't mine me asking?
[15:55] <pmagi> My aim was to be able to control it from a webgui (php), but that i can't figure out.
[15:55] <pmagi> xorrbit i'm gonna ignite fireworks with it :)
[15:55] <pmagi> with e-matches
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[15:56] <xorrbit> haha that is seriously awesome
[15:56] <pmagi> :)
[15:56] * xenophile mumbles about spotify not working
[15:56] <pmagi> I have a DWA-127 USB WiFi card aswell, and the RasPi acts as a AP so i', gonna activate each firework from my ipad :)
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[15:57] <frikinz> pmagi: you could try this for webapp https://code.google.com/p/webiopi/
[15:57] <pmagi> But i could really use some help/guidance how to control it from php
[15:57] <pmagi> thanks, i'll look into it
[15:58] <frikinz> or probably from php simply a shell_exec that does echo > /proc/ .. (not a php expert myself)
[15:58] <pmagi> Me neither.
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[16:02] <Essobi> ERMERHGERD, ITS REST!
[16:03] <frikinz> Yes, rest
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[16:05] <JesseC> oh wow
[16:05] <JesseC> that api
[16:05] <JesseC> is pure win
[16:05] <IT_Sean> igniting fireworks from a raspi?
[16:05] <pmagi> yea :)
[16:05] <IT_Sean> that... is so awesome i cannot say how awesome it is without using words i cannot use in #raspberrypi. :D
[16:05] <xenophile> now thats cool
[16:06] <xenophile> raspberrypisplosion
[16:06] <IT_Sean> raspisplosion!
[16:06] <IT_Sean> raspi go boom
[16:06] <pmagi> I've got a 16 port relaycard hoocked up to 16 GPIO ports, then ematches connected to the NO port on the relay.. then a 12V battery for the e-matches :)
[16:07] <frikinz> You need a license for igniting fireworks or?
[16:07] <IT_Sean> make sure the raspi is far enough away / properly protected against a firework that goes boom on the ground...
[16:07] <pmagi> frikinz looks like that API is exactly what i was looking for :)
[16:07] <frikinz> pmagi: mmm yeah but its poorly commented. good for small project only, not for me
[16:07] <pmagi> IT_Sean i have 2-6" shells, and the raspberry and the relaycard is in a well protected suitcase :)
[16:08] <IT_Sean> Awesome.
[16:08] <frikinz> We want pics! :)
[16:08] <pmagi> I'll post some photos when i'm done with the setup
[16:08] <pmagi> right now i have just verified that i can control the relays :)
[16:09] <pmagi> I have not yet installed it in the case
[16:09] <IT_Sean> Sounds like you are 99% of the way there.
[16:11] <confusid> I see this on the raspbian.org site. It is different then what I have in my source.list. Do I need this setup for each of the items in mine? I have the default single line in mine atm. deb http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian wheezy main contrib non-free deb-src http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian wheezy main contrib non-free
[16:11] <Essobi> :D
[16:12] <frikinz> confusid: there's also a sources.list.d , you have to look at all lines in all files
[16:12] <pmagi> hmm i must be doing something wrong.. but nothing happens when i press the IN/OUT buttons.
[16:12] <confusid> k
[16:12] <Essobi> Umm.
[16:13] <frikinz> confusid: deb-src is if you want to fetch source to rebuild things, no need otherwise, it will slow the update
[16:13] <confusid> and uh oh.. just over clocked to 1ghz first time. screen blanked out 2 times now.
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[16:13] <frikinz> pmagi: You have to check if its uptodate with respect to your Pi revision..
[16:14] <Essobi> Pyro ignitors, and a small transistor/relay 5voltage circuit would probably do the trick
[16:14] <IT_Sean> confusid: back it down a bit, and see if it still blinks off
[16:14] <pmagi> frikinz yea, thats what i thought
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[16:14] <confusid> trying to figure out the ip :/ not sure if I can ssh into it
[16:14] <Essobi> Oh he's got a relay card.
[16:14] <frikinz> pmagi: yeah, had forgotten this..
[16:15] <frikinz> confusid: scan your network.. or check on your router if it list dhcp lease
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[16:15] <xorrbit> or use a status lcd to determine your ip :)
[16:17] <confusid> status lcd?
[16:18] <IT_Sean> Yes. An LCD that shows status.
[16:18] <confusid> screen is blacked out.
[16:18] <xorrbit> like this https://twitter.com/xorrbit/status/279855378773184512/photo/1 :)
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[16:18] <confusid> ah, that is very cool
[16:19] <frikinz> nmap -sP will scan 192.168.1.x
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[16:23] <confusid> ha 40 hosts up
[16:23] <confusid> :)
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[16:28] <confusid> ugh.. cant get in.
[16:30] <RoyK> that first screen that showed up on my pi with a few menu choices - how can I start that laster?
[16:30] <confusid> raspi-config I think
[16:30] <confusid> sudo raspi-config
[16:31] * IT_Sean runs sudo apt-get donut
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[16:32] <frikinz> sudo apt-get nicotine
[16:32] * ReggieUK runs sudo apt-get moarcoffee
[16:32] <ReggieUK> and we all fail
[16:32] <IT_Sean> Hmm... it worked for me. Are you sure you have the right permissiosn set up?
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[16:32] <ReggieUK> as donut, nicotine and moarcoffee are not apt-get switches
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[16:33] <frikinz> apt-get install nicotine actually works but doesne't have the same effect
[16:33] <ReggieUK> yeah, that will work now you've corrected it
[16:33] <ackthet> btw, does anybody experience slow ssh handshaking on their pi?
[16:33] <frikinz> yes, it happens
[16:33] <ackthet> hehe ok
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[16:34] <ackthet> like, slower than my mips router
[16:34] <frikinz> actually doesn't do it anymore now here. mmhh DNS?
[16:34] <confusid> if I hit ctrl+C over and over while booting I get to login and it seems normal but if I don't blank screen on turbo and high modes.
[16:34] <ackthet> maybe its trying to rDNS my local ip?
[16:34] <ackthet> i'll look into that
[16:34] <ackthet> my unbound should handle that though
[16:35] <confusid> is there a way to see in command line the temp of the cpu?
[16:35] <nid0> is your pi connected wirelessly?
[16:35] <frikinz> find /sys -name temps | xargs cat
[16:35] <frikinz> find /sys -name temp | xargs cat
[16:35] <confusid> wired
[16:35] <confusid> ty
[16:35] <nid0> sorry, that was to ackthet
[16:35] <confusid> ugh.. now even in normal it blanks out
[16:35] <ackthet> nid0: nope
[16:35] <IT_Sean> o_O
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[16:36] <confusid> oh an error finally..
[16:36] <confusid> sd card pood out.. cfsck died with exit status 8 it is mounted by something else..
[16:36] <confusid> ugh..
[16:37] <confusid> new sd card too.
[16:37] * RoyK wonders if 4GB is enough for this setup
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[16:39] <SSilver2k2> lo all
[16:40] <confusid> frikinz: not finding anything
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[16:42] <timmmaaaayyy> anyone know if it's possible to rerun the raspbmc first time ssh login script?
[16:42] <frikinz> confusid: the nmap?
[16:42] <IT_Sean> does sudo raspi-config not do it?
[16:42] <confusid> trying to see the temp of the cpu
[16:42] <timmmaaaayyy> maaaaaybe???lets try
[16:42] <pmagi> frikinz i can't figure out how to configure it for rev b
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[16:43] <timmmaaaayyy> IT_Sean: it does not
[16:43] <frikinz> pmagi: humm. yeah, the mapping is different. So I'd say, the html needs some update
[16:43] <pmagi> The documentation could have been better imo. I would like to know where configuration files are :)
[16:43] <IT_Sean> huh.
[16:43] <IT_Sean> sorreh.
[16:43] <frikinz> confusid: find /sys -name temp | xargs cat
[16:43] <timmmaaaayyy> no worries
[16:44] <frikinz> confusid: if you are running a recent kernel that is
[16:44] <confusid> raspbian wheezy
[16:44] <frikinz> pmagi: oh you found documentation? :) in the code you'll see a GA (googleanalytics connection..)
[16:44] <confusid> 3.2.27
[16:44] <pmagi> yea found that :)
[16:45] <bennypr0fane> hello. how do I get a nested x-session from the headless Pi running in my Linux pc through ssh?
[16:45] <frikinz> pmagi: the /*Added by me*/ is about the maximum documentation you'll find..
[16:46] <frikinz> xnest?
[16:46] <frikinz> x, nest, xnest
[16:46] <pmagi> frikinz
[16:46] <pmagi> // GA
[16:46] <pmagi> _gaq.push(['_setAccount', 'UA-33979593-2']);
[16:46] <pmagi> _gaq.push(['_trackPageview']);
[16:46] <pmagi> :)
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[16:47] <pmagi> For a guy with zero Python knowledge this was not that smooth as i would have hoped for.
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[16:50] <bennypr0fane> frikinz: I get into the Pi like this:~$ ssh -Y pi@raspberrypi that way I can start GUI-programs on the Pi on show them on another pc's display in the home network. I get only one application window, not the whole desktop. I was told in here last time to do that, I need to start a "nested" x-session in my pc so the pi can send its whole desktop over here
[16:50] <confusid> how about the warranty bit? Is there a way to see it?
[16:53] <pmagi> frikinz weird, in his youtube video he does exactly what i did but he has the correct layout of the pins in the webui. Perhaps he modified it.
[16:55] <RoyK> bennypr0fane: freenx is rather good
[16:55] <bennypr0fane> Royk for making a separate x seesion?
[16:56] <RoyK> you get full access to the desktop with freenx
[16:56] <RoyK> something like windows remote desktop
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[16:56] <bennypr0fane> is it a vnc app?
[16:56] <RoyK> dunno what protocols it uses
[16:56] <RoyK> just try it
[16:57] <bennypr0fane> is it in your distro's repos?
[16:58] <RoyK> doesn't seem like it's in the default repos for the pi
[16:58] <bennypr0fane> not for the pi
[16:58] <RoyK> in ubuntu, it is
[16:58] <RoyK> but then, I have no idea what distro you're using :)
[16:58] <bennypr0fane> but whatever distro you're on rught now. Or are you irc-ing from the pi?
[16:59] <bennypr0fane> I'm on lubuntu
[16:59] <bennypr0fane> no freenx here though
[16:59] <RoyK> well, no, I'm on a mac, ircing from an irc vm on ubuntu, no freenx or anything there
[17:00] <RoyK> hm - you're right - I guess I found a repo last I installed it (a year or two back)
[17:00] <nahmaste> anyone tried installing the xbmc package on raspbian?
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[17:01] <xenophile> nahmaste: if raspbmc keeps being a dog i am going to try.
[17:01] <RoyK> Q: The standard raspbian intall - it seems to come with a bunch of X stuff I don't want (nor have space for if data grows). Is there an easy way to slim it down a bit? I just want this pi as a datalogger, webserver etc
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[17:02] <nahmaste> xenophile: someone in #openelec said they installed raspbmc and retropie and it worked fine... but im skeptical
[17:02] <xenophile> hmmm
[17:02] <nahmaste> xenophile: i wrote the openelec image to an sd and it worked out of the box, if all you want is xbmc
[17:02] <xenophile> i built mine yesterday, and half of the plugs dont wokr
[17:03] <xenophile> well i need a few other things
[17:03] <bennypr0fane> nahmaste I put xbian on a separate sdcard, haven't tried it yet though
[17:03] <bennypr0fane> have you tried xbian?
[17:03] <frikinz> There's also x11vnc which IS in the repo
[17:03] <nahmaste> bennypr0fane: i was thinking about doing that too, just seems so lame that you'd have to swap sd cards...
[17:04] <nahmaste> bennypr0fane: i havent tried xbian
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[17:04] <bennypr0fane> well if you also want to use the Pi for other purposes...
[17:05] <frikinz> RoyK: I did this, you can mount the partition on the img, chroot into it, remove packages with apt-get purge, then reduce size of fs, and rewrite partitions. it is some work..
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[17:05] <bennypr0fane> nahmaste: I have 2, and I was planning on using this one only as a mediaserver
[17:05] <nahmaste> bennypr0fane: ideally what i want is xbmc to load on boot and then have all the retropie stuff installed along side it, and drop out of xbmc to start emulationstation
[17:06] <RoyK> frikinz: well, the partition is 4GB or so, so no need in resizing that, I just wanted to know if there was a quick way to remove the packages related to X
[17:06] <xenophile> nahmaste: have you tried doing it via runlevel?
[17:06] <bennypr0fane> nahmaste you could partition a large sdcard to dual boot raspian and xbian
[17:06] <xenophile> init 3, goes to xmbc, init 5 goes to whatever?
[17:06] <nahmaste> xenophile: yeah that could work, but you'd still have to get a distro that can handle both
[17:06] <nahmaste> bennypr0fane: yeah, i was thinking that too
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[17:07] <xenophile> good point, does this support it?
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[17:07] <frikinz> RoyK: ok. for me I had 1G free on the SD. then I don't see your problem. boot, remove
[17:07] <nahmaste> bennypr0fane: but im trying to run the pi off of a wireless controller only... with xbmc being controlled from the web/phone
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[17:07] <bennypr0fane> It puts me off a little though that latest recommended release of xbian si labelled alpha
[17:07] <bennypr0fane> still gonna give it a try
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[17:08] <bennypr0fane> nahmaste what you mean a wireless controller?
[17:08] <nahmaste> xenophile: according to #openelec, raspbmc and the retropie stuff all works together
[17:08] <xenophile> ok
[17:08] <xenophile> i am just going to hack on modules
[17:08] <nahmaste> bennypr0fane: logitech 710
[17:08] <xenophile> i need tor, pptp/opevpn, and a fwe other things for mine
[17:09] <nahmaste> bennypr0fane: http://www.logitech.com/en-us/product/wireless-gamepad-f710?crid=713
[17:09] <bennypr0fane> you use only xbmc remote control to operate it? no mouse, keyboard?
[17:09] <nahmaste> bennypr0fane: thats my plan... phone controlled MC and gamepad for retro gaming
[17:09] <bennypr0fane> awesome
[17:09] <bennypr0fane> sound pretty cool
[17:10] <nahmaste> i dont want any keyboards/mice... the pi is semi-hidden in my media center
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[17:10] <bennypr0fane> I dig solutions with few wires and few boxes to handle
[17:10] <xenophile> my goal is to ziptie mine behind my tv
[17:11] <xenophile> directly to the back of it
[17:11] <bennypr0fane> nahmaste I figure that should be easier with a dedicated xbmc distro
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[17:12] <bennypr0fane> xenophile don't you have anything to hold it there?
[17:12] <xenophile> bennypr0fane: i could fabricate something
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[17:13] <nahmaste> bennypr0fane: well, openelec xbmc seems to work the best, but its a self-contained single-file distro... not really able to install/manage packages like raspbian, etc. raspbmc seems to be more of a full distro with xbmc running on top of it, so we'll see. right now, im just trying to get the retropie bundle working *at all* on raspbian
[17:13] <nahmaste> there seems to be an issue with upgrading any of the raspbian packages from the 10-28 distro
[17:14] <nahmaste> at least, everything breaks on mine when i try to upgrade
[17:14] <bennypr0fane> xenophile something like a vesa mount
[17:16] <confusid> yay no void on warranty
[17:16] <bennypr0fane> I find it incredible how many dedicated distros there are already for xbmc on the Pi. How many do you know of?
[17:16] <xenophile> bennypr0fane: yeah i will just print something.
[17:16] <bennypr0fane> you mean 3d-print?
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[17:16] <xenophile> bennypr0fane: i have an LG plasma, with these little holes, i am certain i can come up with a snap in mount
[17:16] <xenophile> yeah
[17:17] <xenophile> though i am thinking of coverting to a projector
[17:17] <xenophile> then, well, i am just going to mount it up with the projector
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[17:23] <frikinz> pmagi: I began doing a bit of an ajax app, for fun. http://teebee.n0n3m.com:666/?refresh=1000
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[17:24] <bennypr0fane> raspbmc, xbian, openelec xbmc, any others?
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[17:25] <frikinz> nothing compared to how many roms there are for android as a comparison.. a bit of time waste
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[17:30] <bennypr0fane> other question: If I configure raspi-config in one Pi, then take out the sdcard and put it into another Pi, that one should be configured the exact same way, right? or would I need to run it again to get the same config in that other Pi?
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[17:31] <confusid> should be the same. But if it is a A or B and mem is 256 or 512 that may effect it differently
[17:31] <pksato> bennypr0fane: yes, SD works on any other R-Pi.
[17:33] <frikinz> on raspbian there's an udev rule linking mac adress to wlan0 so you might not get network unless you rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules before exchanging the card to another pi
[17:34] <xorrbit> you network name would change if mac changes
[17:34] <frikinz> network device name yes
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[17:36] <RoyK> frikinz: dpkg -l ... and trying to sort out what packages to remove ... backup first :)
[17:37] <RoyK> or perhaps I'd rather get a 8 or 16GB SD card instead :P
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[17:38] <bennypr0fane> hello pksato. I am wrestling to get into headless Pi's head :-) It's not letting me in. First problem is I'd like to call its synaptic and install some packages, but fail :-(
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[17:38] <frikinz> RoyK: there's a few nice packages like debfoster that will walk dependencies and ask you which one you need, ..
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[17:38] <confusid> RoyK: They have decently priced 32gb sd cards now. around 20 for one.
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[17:40] <pksato> bennypr0fane: I do not understand what you say.
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[17:41] <bennypr0fane> pksato I want to forward x session from my headless Pc to my Lubuntu desktop
[17:41] <bennypr0fane> *headless Pi
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[17:42] <bennypr0fane> like so: ssh -Y pi@
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[17:42] <bennypr0fane> but it's not working with the -Y option, the connection just times out
[17:43] <pksato> bennypr0fane: ip change if you put on other rpi.
[17:43] <bennypr0fane> the Pi is on my home network
[17:43] <pksato> except, if use static ip.
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[17:44] <bennypr0fane> I want to forward the Pi's x to my Lubuntu desktop
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[17:44] <bennypr0fane> mailto:pi@
[17:44] <bennypr0fane> scratch that
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[17:44] <bennypr0fane> is the IP I get when pinging "raspberrypi". It's not static
[17:45] <xenophile> does your router register a hostname with it?
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[17:46] <bennypr0fane> xenophile what do you mean by register
[17:46] <frikinz> "it fails" is vague..
[17:46] <xenophile> mine guessed its hostname when i plugged it in
[17:46] <xenophile> probably wins or someshit
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[17:48] <bennypr0fane> " it fails" in this case means either the ssh connection cannot be established, or I ca n't start an application after getting a connection
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[17:48] <frikinz> that would be 2 different problems
[17:49] <xenophile> yeah, what exactly are you trying to do?
[17:49] <xenophile> oh i see above
[17:49] <xenophile> do you have a session going
[17:50] <confusid> bennypr0fane: ssh into it first to see if you can do that.. that will rule that out..
[17:50] <xenophile> (login to both and lok at netstat -ntw)
[17:50] <biberao> yo
[17:50] <biberao> i got my pi!
[17:50] <confusid> also did you start the sshd?
[17:50] <bennypr0fane> xenophile not right now the Pi runs raspian, so hostname should eb raspberrypi. I succeded in pingin that hostname some minutes ago, it returned the above IP-address.
[17:51] <confusid> bennypr0fane: did you enable sshd?
[17:51] <bennypr0fane> so to start a session with ~$ ssh -X pi@ or ssh -X pi@raspberrypi should be the same, right?
[17:52] <xenophile> yeah
[17:52] <xenophile> provied local dns understands it
[17:52] <bennypr0fane> it did yesterday
[17:52] <xenophile> provided local dns understands it
[17:52] <bennypr0fane> making trouble today
[17:53] <xenophile> from wherever you are sshing from, look it up
[17:53] <xenophile> host raspberrypi
[17:53] <bennypr0fane> look what up?
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[17:53] <xenophile> the ip address of the hostname raspberrypi
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[17:53] <bennypr0fane> but I already did
[17:53] <bennypr0fane> see above
[17:53] <xenophile> ok
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[17:53] <xenophile> and they match
[17:53] <xenophile> ?
[17:54] <bennypr0fane> ok, again:
[17:54] <xenophile> i would try ssh -l pi -X or wehver your ip is
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[17:55] <RoyK> frikinz: thanks
[17:55] <bennypr0fane> I ran ping raspberrypi. it repsonded, with that IP address. that means there is a host named raspberrypi, and it has that IP address, right or not?
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[17:55] <xenophile> yeah help your self
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[17:56] <frikinz> RoyK: no problem. So what did you choose? are you removing and removing and removing innocent packages? :)
[17:57] <bennypr0fane> xenophile to me?
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[17:58] <bennypr0fane> this is driving me crazy. 15 mins ago I successfully connected to the Pi via ssh. Now it's just gone from the network!
[17:59] <bennypr0fane> can you tell from this ifconfig id it's there? http://pastebin.com/UA76u4vW
[17:59] <RoyK> frikinz: I chose to "dpkg -l | awk '/^ii/ { print $2 }'" and then walk through the packages manually to remove what I found unnecessary - but first - a full backup of that SD card ;)
[17:59] <bennypr0fane> *if
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[18:01] <frikinz> bennypr0fane: where did you do this ifconfig? on the pi? If you exchanged a previously working sdcard from one pi to another, you first need to remove a file
[18:01] <schemanen> benny: eather you can run ifconfig on the pi if you can access it, or you can run nmap to see all the IP you have in the network and maybe figure out the IP of the raspberry
[18:01] <frikinz> RoyK: ok. debfoster2aptitude makes it a bit less painfull for the eyes but manual inspection is also good :)
[18:02] <bennypr0fane> frikinz no, this ifconfig on my desktop. which file to remove? and how would you explain I first got in and now I don't (without changing the setuo in between)?
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[18:03] <frikinz> bennypr0fane: ifconfig on your desktop can't mention the ip of the PI..
[18:03] * RoyK should have bought a faster SD card - this one takes ages to backup
[18:03] <frikinz> this eth0/eth1 renaming seems strange though
[18:04] <bennypr0fane> I can't access the Pi right now, I don't see it on the network. I don't understand nmap, could you maybe give me the options to use?
[18:04] <frikinz> ah 2 netwrok cards
[18:04] <bennypr0fane> frikinz yes
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[18:06] <frikinz> bennypr0fane: nmap -sP will do a ping scan on 192.168.1.x replace if thats not your subnet mask
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[18:07] <frikinz> bennypr0fane: just to understand, did you this SD already booted and network worked on THIS pi or are you mixing different pi?
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[18:09] <bennypr0fane> frikinz this SD on another Pi
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[18:10] <frikinz> so it can't work
[18:10] <bennypr0fane> I asked about that before
[18:10] <frikinz> yes, I said it can't work :)
[18:10] <frikinz> anyway. you have a keyboard?
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[18:11] <bennypr0fane> I remember the response being it can, it seems not from you ;-)
[18:11] <frikinz> doesn't matter
[18:11] <frikinz> 17:33 <+frikinz> on raspbian there's an udev rule linking mac adress to wlan0 so you might not get network unless you rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules before exchanging the card to another pi
[18:11] <frikinz> or eth0
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[18:12] <frikinz> so you need to remove this file with any method you want and boot it
[18:12] <atmosx> Hello
[18:12] <atmosx> does anyone use omx player?
[18:12] <confusid> HAHAHAHAHA!!! Tell me I cant run at 1ghz... pffft...
[18:12] <atmosx> Does it stream of https?
[18:12] <confusid> no blank outs and it is running smooth now :)
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[18:13] <confusid> 32gb sd card that can handle 30mb/s cant handle it though :/ lol
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[18:14] <bennypr0fane> frikinz: I have whitePi attached to this display /w mouse and kb. I put the raspian SD in it to run raspi-config, enable ssh etc. than I put this SD card into blackPi, who is attached to the router headless in the other room and booted it
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[18:15] <confusid> o0
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[18:15] <bennypr0fane> which file do I need to remove and what are the methods?
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[18:16] <confusid> He posted that answer twice now....
[18:16] <bennypr0fane> ah found it
[18:17] <bennypr0fane> to be fair, i've answered some questions twice as well :-)
[18:17] <bennypr0fane> I didn't realize that was for me
[18:17] <confusid> ah
[18:18] <confusid> 5th reboot and it is smiling at 1ghz :)
[18:18] <Vazde> does anyone know how to run xinit /usr/bin/xbmc --standalone over ssh, so that it starts on the physical display(i'm not looking for x11 forwarding). currently i get 'Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig'
[18:18] <RoyK> frikinz: debfoster is not the one you'd want to feed 'yes' to
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[18:18] <bennypr0fane> uggh, gotta hit the grocery store qucik efore it closes! thanks everyone!
[18:19] <frikinz> RoyK: you mean in automatic? no that would probably remove everything :) you have to use debfoster2aptitude though (after installing aptitude that is). revert all with u
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[18:21] <frikinz> debfoster keep a record a all your previous choice
[18:23] <Grievre> wait did you just say debfoster?
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[18:26] <frikinz> where?
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[18:37] <Torikun> anyone good with setting up postfix to work with godaddy?
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[19:20] <shapr> Oh hai peoples! I just assembled the buck converter circuit from issue 6 of the MagPi yesterday.
[19:20] <Torikun> Nice
[19:20] <shapr> Has the current draw changed for the new models with 512mb of RAM?
[19:21] <Torikun> I only have the 230mb one =(
[19:22] <shapr> Same here, but I wouldn't mind purchasing another one when I get another batch of student loans.
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[19:22] <pksato> shapr: I think, no. or little over.
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[19:23] <shapr> I have a bunch of energizer NiMH rechargeable AAs, but I'd like to switch to something with more capacity, any suggestions?
[19:23] <Torikun> anyone have a link for the piwww.zip?
[19:24] <pksato> shapr: Li-Ion or Li-Pol. and UBEC.
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[19:25] <pksato> or, big acid lead battery. and solar panel.
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[19:25] <shapr> I want to mount the whole setup in my jacket, so weight is a factor.
[19:25] <pksato> Li-Pol
[19:26] <pksato> Used on models.
[19:26] <Toothpick> ?
[19:27] <shapr> Lithium Polymer?
[19:27] <shapr> I'll look it up.
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[19:28] <shapr> pksato: Is there a forum thread that introduces UBEC and the trade-offs between Li-Ion and Li-Pol?
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[19:28] <pksato> I dont know.
[19:29] <pksato> Li-Pol is used on ipad and others similar devices.
[19:29] * shapr reads about UBEC
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[19:30] <gordonDrogon> evening.
[19:30] <pksato> http://dx.com/p/3a-ubec-for-r-c-helicopter-5-23v-45333
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[19:35] <pksato> some advise, Li-Pol packs can be confused for explosives.
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[19:36] <TAFB> good afternoon peeps :) power was out here for quite a while :(
[19:36] <Torikun> TAFB: yo can I have the link for your site
[19:37] <TAFB> http://tafb.yi.org/
[19:37] <TAFB> that one?
[19:37] <Torikun> the pi status page
[19:37] <TAFB> yep, ^^ that's it.
[19:37] <TAFB> let me know if it works :)
[19:37] <Torikun> ere
[19:37] <Torikun> dam blocked at work
[19:37] <Torikun> can you paste the link for the zip file
[19:38] <TAFB> try http://toysareforboys.no-ip.info
[19:38] <Torikun> cwork blocks dyndns
[19:38] <TAFB> ahhhh
[19:38] <TAFB> lol
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[19:38] <TAFB> ok, one sec for zip, not on dyndns ;)
[19:38] <Torikun> ty
[19:39] <Torikun> rusher81572.com now is hosted on my PI
[19:39] <Torikun> I want to add a rusher81572.com/pi now
[19:39] * Armand bought a .co.uk. ^_^
[19:39] <TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/piwww.zip
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[19:39] <Torikun> ty
[19:40] <Torikun> TAFB: not working lol try http://rusher81572.com/pi/
[19:40] <TAFB> you have to edit the phpChart config file so it knows your document root
[19:40] <Torikun> ah
[19:40] <Torikun> config.php?
[19:41] <TAFB> it's configged to run in the document root of my panacake which is /usr/local/Pancake/vhosts/default :(
[19:41] <TAFB> so if you see that path, you'll know where to start
[19:41] <Torikun> ok it works now
[19:41] <Torikun> check it
[19:41] <Torikun> lol
[19:41] <TAFB> looks like it's not able to do some of the shell exec calls
[19:42] <TAFB> did you add the www-data user to the right spot?
[19:42] <Torikun> did not do that yet
[19:42] <TAFB> ahhh. the readme you must follow
[19:42] <TAFB> :)
[19:42] <Torikun> lol
[19:42] <Torikun> ty
[19:42] <Torikun> i got godaddy.com but still can not get my mail working lol
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[19:42] <TAFB> Torikun: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/piwww.zip
[19:43] <Torikun> ty
[19:43] <TAFB> Torikun: what's the end of your e-mail address (just the domain part).
[19:43] <Torikun> ?
[19:43] <TAFB> joe@blow.com ... what's your @blow.com part
[19:43] <Torikun> rusher81572.com
[19:43] <TAFB> ok, one sec while I check your MX records.
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[19:44] <Climuff> hi
[19:44] <Climuff> my raspberry pi does not start, can you help me?
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[19:44] <TAFB> Climuff: Did you look at the troubleshooting wiki?
[19:44] <Climuff> no, can you sent me a link?
[19:44] <TAFB> Climuff: http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting
[19:44] <Climuff> thx
[19:45] <TAFB> Climuff: I would start under "power problems", then look at "my card doesn't boot" issues
[19:45] <TAFB> Climuff: remember, the Pi gives you NO display until it successfully boots from SD card
[19:45] <Climuff> red lamp is on, rest is off
[19:45] <TAFB> could be boot/card or power issue
[19:46] <TAFB> If you format your SD card FAT32 and unzip these files to the root of it, it's a diagnostic boot setup to make sure everything is working: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/TAFB_diagnostics_bootcode.zip
[19:46] <TAFB> you'd need a screen connected to the Pi for that file to work ;)
[19:46] <Climuff> 20 minutes ago it booted well, then I turned it off while he was wanted to make partitions on the sd card
[19:46] <TAFB> did you do a nice sudo halt before pulling the power?
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[19:47] <Climuff> there was nothing installed, he just make the partitions on the sd card
[19:47] <Climuff> first boot^^
[19:47] <TAFB> it doesn't really make anything on first boot? you write the wheezy .img to the SD card, when you write it, it makes the partitions? doesn't do anything on first boot?
[19:48] <TAFB> Torikun: Your MX records are pointing to godaddy's e-mail service. I assume that's not what you want.
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[19:49] <Climuff> I copyed the raspian files to the sd card, i turned on the raspberry pi, i get threough the installation process, then he wanted to make partitions but at 33% I waited 20 minutes and nothing happened, so I turned it off
[19:49] <TAFB> Climuff: Are you using raspbian wheezy?
[19:49] <Climuff> http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianInstaller
[19:50] <Climuff> i uses this
[19:50] <millerii> http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianInstaller
[19:50] <TAFB> Climuff: ahhh. have not used that, sorry.
[19:50] <Climuff> what is the best os for the raspberry pi?
[19:50] <TAFB> Climuff: I use this: http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
[19:50] <Kisume> There is no best OS.
[19:51] <TAFB> Climuff: depends on what you want to do with it. I love Wheezy, running e-mail and web server :) http://tafb.yi.org/
[19:51] <Climuff> i want to run java programs
[19:51] <dr_willis> for daily desktop ussage. i find my pi sluggish.
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[19:52] <dr_willis> for xbmc live distros those work well
[19:52] <TAFB> dr_willis: once we get GPU support for xwindows it should be much better :)
[19:52] <Climuff> where is the difference between the raspian wheezy and the normal raspian?
[19:52] <bennypr0fane> hello, frikinz, you here?
[19:52] <TAFB> Torikun: did you get my post about your MX records? Let me know and we can get em fixed.
[19:53] <Kisume> Arch Linux ARM seems pretty good.
[19:53] <Torikun> let me check TAFB
[19:53] <Torikun> I did not see it
[19:53] <bennypr0fane> you said: "<+frikinz> on raspbian there's an udev rule linking mac adress to wlan0 (or eht0) so you might not get network unless you rm /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules before exchanging the card to another pi" - That file does not exist though :-(
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[19:54] <TAFB> Torikun: Your MX records are pointing to godaddy's mail service, I assume this isn't what you want.
[19:54] <dr_willis> hmm. i swap raspbian between 2 pis. no issues
[19:54] <Torikun> is it supposed to form ail relay?
[19:55] <TAFB> Torikun: Nope, your MX should be pointing to where you want your e-mail to do. Are you hosting your own mail server?
[19:55] <Torikun> yup
[19:55] <Torikun> on the pi
[19:55] <TAFB> send me your Pi's public ip address in a /query if you want, and I'll do some checks.
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[19:56] <bennypr0fane> in case anyone can help with that, I can't find the Pi (headless) on the network. I want to go in via ssh. dr_willis did you say that to me?
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[19:56] <Torikun> so what should it be?
[19:56] <TAFB> bennypr0fane: You can look in your routers DHCP log.
[19:56] <pksato> bennypr0fane: its is connected via ethernet ?
[19:56] <TAFB> Torikun: I need to know your ip address, the one the Pi is on.
[19:56] <Torikun> ping login.rusher81572.com
[19:56] <pksato> check new ip leased.
[19:56] <bennypr0fane> TAFB I don't have access to my router @pksato yes
[19:57] <TAFB> Torikun: is the IP static?
[19:57] <pksato> bennypr0fane: use fixex/static ip.
[19:57] <dr_willis> nmap scan the network perhaps
[19:57] <bennypr0fane> see my nmnap here:
[19:57] <bennypr0fane> http://pastebin.com/4di9yY2d
[19:57] <Torikun> no but not changed in months
[19:58] <bennypr0fane> pksato I don't know how to do that
[19:58] <pksato> nmap is not a tool to discover ip.
[19:58] <TAFB> Torikun: Ok, you might have to use some type of dynamic ip update tool like no-ip.com, if your ip changes and we use that ip in your mx records all hell breaks loose ;)
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[19:58] <TAFB> for now we will get it working with your ip.
[19:58] <Torikun> i got rusher81572.dyndns.org also
[19:58] <TAFB> Torikun: ahhh perfect, we can use that :)
[19:58] <Torikun> ok
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[19:59] <TAFB> Torikun: one sec, gotta do some tests and pull some settings then I'll help you with godaddy
[19:59] <bennypr0fane> that nmap is not true right now tho, bcs I took the SD out of blackPi (headless in the other room) and put it into my whitePi (with display right here)
[19:59] <biberao> hi
[19:59] <biberao> damn cant make my pi work
[19:59] <biberao> on rca
[19:59] <biberao> maybe OS borked?
[20:00] <biberao> is it required a keyboard
[20:00] <biberao> for it?
[20:00] <biberao> cant it boot without a keyboard i mean
[20:00] <crazyk> i've found that if I boot without a display, then attach the display
[20:00] <TAFB> biberao: keyboard is not required for boot
[20:00] <crazyk> it won't show
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[20:00] <TAFB> biberao: if you have the wheezy image and no hdmi connected, you should get composite video out of yellow RCA jack
[20:00] <crazyk> but after a reboot, having the display attached it will display video (hdmi that is, not sure about the rca connector)
[20:01] <TAFB> you can "force hdmi" if youwant
[20:01] <TAFB> will make hdmi always output
[20:01] <crazyk> really, I didn't know that
[20:01] <TAFB> sudo nano /boot/config.txt
[20:01] <TAFB> info is in there
[20:01] <Torikun> http://www.google.com/imgres?start=132&hl=en&sa=X&tbo=d&biw=908&bih=660&tbm=isch&tbnid=MKONpOjXIb11bM:&imgrefurl=http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/new-raspberry-pi-512mb-mini-pc-with-double-the-memory-launches-15-10-2012/&docid=yvaQiUIGcUBoOM&imgurl=http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Raspberry-Pi.jpeg&w=650&h=458&ei=B2DTUOzjLqSd2QXCh4DwDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=189&vpy=264&dur=1493&hovh=188&hovw=268&tx=215&ty=59&
[20:01] <Torikun> oops
[20:01] <bennypr0fane> pksato suppose I assign a static IP by modifying the SDcard, will it work then if I put that into another Pi?
[20:02] <biberao> TAFB: its running now
[20:02] <TAFB> Torikun: you got me all excited there, when I saw the article, I thought that was a 1GB Pi!
[20:02] <Torikun> lol
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[20:03] <biberao> whats xmbc
[20:03] <biberao> ssh password?
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[20:03] <dr_willis> raspberry?
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[20:04] <biberao> raspbmc
[20:04] <biberao> ive used pi as login and password raspberry
[20:04] <biberao> and doesnt allow the ssh
[20:05] <TAFB> Torikun: Have you verified that your port 25 is forwarded and working?
[20:05] <Torikun> yeah
[20:05] <biberao> :|
[20:05] <Torikun> try telnet rusher81572 25
[20:05] <Vlad> 22
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[20:05] <Vlad> ssh is port 22, 25 is smtp
[20:06] <TAFB> Torikun: ahhhhh I know the problem. My ISP blocks my outgoing port 25, no biggie :)
[20:06] <Torikun> lol
[20:06] <TAFB> Torikun: Ok, fire up your godaddy control panel, MX record time :)
[20:06] <Vlad> i suspect i misread something, carry on!
[20:07] <Torikun> ok
[20:07] * Vlad scrolls up
[20:07] <TAFB> Vlad: You were correct, he forgot to tell me to telnet to port 25 ;)
[20:07] <biberao> funny stuff
[20:07] <Torikun> ok ready
[20:08] <TAFB> Torikun: ok, gimme a sec to get to mine too :)
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[20:09] <biberao> why doesnt allow me to ssh :|
[20:09] <Torikun> http://pastebin.com/c4czJRab
[20:09] <Torikun> TAFB: my pastebin
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[20:10] <TAFB> Torikun: where'd you get that list?
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[20:12] <TAFB> Torikun: On the "domain details" page of godaddy, you click "Launch" under "DNS Manager"
[20:12] <TAFB> takes you to zone file editor
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[20:13] <TAFB> Torikun: you there? :)
[20:14] <biberao> my pi died
[20:14] <biberao> it doesnt get yellow color now
[20:14] <biberao> just red one
[20:14] <Torikun> ok back sorry
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[20:14] <Torikun> dns manager tag
[20:14] <Torikun> dns manager TAFB
[20:14] <TAFB> biberao: did you check TP1-TP2 voltage? http://elinux.org/images/d/d1/RPI_Test_Points.JPG
[20:15] <TAFB> Torikun: ok, DNS Manager, you see where it says "Launch"
[20:15] <biberao> nope
[20:15] <biberao> should have checked'
[20:15] <Torikun> yeah
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[20:15] <biberao> but i dont have the voltage thingy
[20:15] <TAFB> Torikun: click it, should take you to Zone File Editor
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[20:15] <Torikun> there
[20:16] <TAFB> biberao: Every Pi should come with a volt meter :(
[20:16] <Climuff> how long does it take normally to format a 16GB class 10 sd card?
[20:16] <biberao> TAFB: for real?
[20:16] <mhz> haha
[20:16] <mhz> use your tongue
[20:16] <TAFB> Torikun: ok, you see your MX records? "points to" Change both of those boxes to rusher81572.dyndns.org and set the TTL to 1/2 hour
[20:17] <Torikun> ok let me check
[20:17] <Torikun> I do not see mx
[20:17] <Torikun> just what was in pastebin
[20:18] <Torikun> 10
[20:18] <Torikun> @
[20:18] <Torikun> mailstore1.secureserver.net
[20:18] <Torikun> 1 Hour
[20:18] <Torikun>
[20:18] <Torikun> 0
[20:18] <Torikun> @
[20:18] <Torikun> smtp.secureserver.net
[20:18] <Torikun> 1 Hour for mx
[20:18] <TAFB> yeah, you need to edit those
[20:18] <Torikun> ok
[20:18] <Climuff> how long does it take normally to format a 16GB class 10 sd card?
[20:19] <TAFB> change both names to rusher81572.dyndns.org adn change the 1 hour to 1/2 hour
[20:19] <TAFB> Climuff: what are you formatting it in?
[20:19] <Climuff> there are 3 partitions, the third is in ext3 and there the formatting stays
[20:20] <TAFB> Climuff: ahh. no idea, sorry.
[20:20] <Climuff> in which format I should formatting?
[20:20] <TAFB> ext4?
[20:20] <Climuff> which is the best?
[20:20] <Climuff> i never used linux before
[20:20] <TAFB> Climuff: me neither, so don't listen to my advice ;)
[20:20] * rymate1234 looks forward to Minecraft Raspberry Pi
[20:21] <Climuff> here are enough other people^^
[20:21] <TAFB> Torikun: did you get your MX editied? make sure you save it "update zone file" or "save zone file". Then refresh the page and make sure your MX editing stick.
[20:21] <Climuff> formatting stays at 33% percent and I dont know whether ots crashed or it do something
[20:22] <mhz> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/05/ext2-ext3-ext4/
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[20:22] <mhz> i'd go with ext4
[20:23] <mhz> though for what the rpi is, any would be fine ;)
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[20:23] <Climuff> and how long does it take to format in ext4?
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[20:24] <Torikun> ok chasnged
[20:24] <mhz> it shouldn't take that long
[20:24] <TAFB> Torikun: ok, can you pastebin all the new MX stuff, AFTER your refresh the godaddy page :)
[20:24] <mhz> esp since the partition is probably less than 16gb? heh
[20:24] <mhz> pretty small
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[20:26] <Torikun> TAFB: http://pastebin.com/umK6gLuz
[20:27] <TAFB> Torikun: It still says 1 hour, you were not able to change that?
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[20:27] <Torikun> Dec 20 11:27:05 rasptv postfix/smtp[3020]: 98DFE63360: to=<phillip.tribble@gmail.com>, relay=none, delay=16, delays=0.3/0.01/16/0, dsn=4.4.3, status=deferred (Host or domain name not found. Name service error for name=smtpout.secureserver.net type=MX: Host not found, try again)
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[20:27] <Torikun> what should it be
[20:28] <TAFB> Torikun: I set the TTL to a half hour, 1/2 hour.
[20:28] <TAFB> set it to that and re-save your zone file again
[20:28] <Torikun> ok
[20:28] <Torikun> done
[20:28] <TAFB> Torikun: ok, everything else looks great. It will take between 30 mins and 1 hour for things to start working.
[20:28] <TAFB> Torikun: I will tell you how to know if they are working, one sec.
[20:29] <Torikun> All records not containing errors have been successfully saved to your zone file.
[20:29] <Torikun> Zone File Record
[20:29] <Torikun> rusher81572.dyndns.org: Duplicate entry '88280599--MX-rusher81572.dyndns.org.-0' for key 2
[20:29] <Torikun> Host
[20:29] <Torikun> Status
[20:29] <TAFB> Torikun: Ahhh, looks like they don't like having the same mx server on two records :) can you delete the "10" MX record entirely, so there's just the "0" record, so your MX should only be one line
[20:30] <TAFB> Torikun: try that, make sure no errors, and re-pastebin your stuff
[20:30] <Torikun> ok done
[20:30] <Torikun> now it is right
[20:30] <TAFB> nice
[20:30] <TAFB> no errors?
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[20:30] <Torikun> nope
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[20:30] <TAFB> woot :)
[20:30] <TAFB> k. one sec for testing.
[20:31] <TAFB> wow
[20:31] <TAFB> that was fast?!? wtf?!
[20:31] <Torikun> do I need relayhost ?
[20:31] <TAFB> it's working already
[20:31] <TAFB> lol
[20:31] <TAFB> Torikun: Nope, only for outgoing mail if your ISP blocks you, not for incoming.
[20:31] <Torikun> I still have relayhost=smtpout.securesever.net
[20:31] <Torikun> ok
[20:31] <Torikun> just commenet out?
[20:31] <TAFB> http://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=mx%3arusher81572.com
[20:31] <TAFB> Torikun: where is relayhost?
[20:32] <Torikun> /etc/postfix/main.cf
[20:32] <TAFB> Torikun: I have not setup e-mail on my Pi yet, which e-mail server you running?
[20:32] <Torikun> Dec 20 11:32:39 rasptv postfix/smtp[3146]: connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[]:25: Connection timed out
[20:32] <Torikun> Dec 20 11:32:39 rasptv postfix/smtp[3147]: connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[]:25: Connection timed out
[20:32] <Torikun> postfix
[20:33] <TAFB> Torikun: what did you just try and do there?
[20:33] <Torikun> send test email to me
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[20:33] <TAFB> send from where?
[20:33] <Torikun> pi
[20:34] <Torikun> pi to gmail
[20:34] <TAFB> bad test. Send from hotmail to Pi address
[20:34] <TAFB> get incoming working first
[20:34] <TAFB> outgoing might be more difficult.
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[20:34] <Torikun> ok
[20:34] <TAFB> just so you know, MX records are ONLY for incoming, not outgoin ;)
[20:34] <TAFB> what's the first part of your e-mail address (I already have the end) and I'll send ya a test one
[20:35] <Torikun> to an account on my pi?
[20:35] <TAFB> yeah
[20:35] <Torikun> rusher@rusher81572.com
[20:35] <TAFB> shouldn't post e-mail address in here, cause the logs are on the web spiders harvest them
[20:35] <TAFB> sending e-mail
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[20:35] <TAFB> email sent.
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[20:40] <gordonDrogon> evening...
[20:40] <biberao> TAFB: help me
[20:40] <biberao> its red only
[20:40] <biberao> no yellow light
[20:40] <biberao> doesnt boot anymore
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[20:40] <TAFB> biberao: the red ring of death, not good. go to http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads and download the wheezy image and write it to the card like a normal person then I'll help you.
[20:40] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: Good afternoon :)
[20:41] <biberao> i did that TAFB
[20:41] <biberao> ive used
[20:41] <biberao> the image
[20:41] <biberao> from there
[20:41] <TAFB> how did you write it from the card?
[20:41] <TAFB> to the card
[20:41] <TAFB> i meant
[20:41] <biberao> win32imager
[20:41] <Torikun> I need to install mail client
[20:42] <biberao> its working again
[20:42] <TAFB> Torikun: lol :) It says my e-mail was delivered, you go nothin to read it? Does postfix not have webmail?
[20:42] <biberao> maybe its the sdcard
[20:42] <TAFB> Torikun: you should use Citadel ;)
[20:42] <Torikun> squirrelmail not available
[20:42] <biberao> ssh isnt enabled is it?
[20:42] <biberao> :|
[20:42] <TAFB> biberao: you can enable it with keyboard on first boot :)
[20:42] <biberao> ok
[20:42] <biberao> its working
[20:42] <biberao> TAFB: i have no keybard
[20:42] <biberao> TAFB: i have no keyboard
[20:42] <biberao> :P
[20:42] <TAFB> nice. congrats. Is your SD card kingston?
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[20:43] <biberao> the sdcard
[20:43] <biberao> is borked
[20:43] <biberao> :|
[20:43] <biberao> ive tried verbatim
[20:43] <biberao> doesnt work either
[20:43] <biberao> :|
[20:43] <biberao> its not kingston
[20:43] <biberao> its a chinese one
[20:43] <biberao> llo
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[20:44] <TAFB> biberao: have you checked your voltage yet? probably power issues, most likely due to crappy microUSB cable
[20:44] <biberao> TAFB:
[20:44] <biberao> i have to check that tomorrow then
[20:44] <biberao> TAFB: guide me
[20:44] <biberao> what to do
[20:44] <TAFB> biberao: http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Troubleshooting_power_problems
[20:44] <gordonDrogon> waiting on another youtube upload, but this time I've turned off IPv6, so I can manage the traffic...
[20:44] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: nice :)
[20:45] <biberao> thanks TAFB
[20:45] <TAFB> biberao: no problem, good luck :)
[20:45] <biberao> thanks
[20:45] <pksato> ~
[20:46] <biberao> now its time to test
[20:46] <biberao> he external hd
[20:46] <biberao> d
[20:46] <biberao> :P
[20:46] <TAFB> as long as it's not powered from the Pi's USB port, it'll work ok
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[20:46] <biberao> what happens if its not powered
[20:46] <biberao> the pi might die?
[20:47] <TAFB> the pi can't power things from it's USB port, not things like hard drives. most likely the hard drive just won't spin, sometimes the pi will just reboot or power down.
[20:47] <biberao> should i change the boot behaviour?
[20:47] <biberao> ok
[20:47] <biberao> ill test
[20:47] <biberao> .P
[20:47] <TAFB> plug high drain devices into a powered USB hub
[20:47] <biberao> should i change the boot behaviour? <-
[20:47] <biberao> im buying a usb hub tomorrow
[20:47] <TAFB> nope, unless you want to store the OS on the usb hard drive
[20:47] <TAFB> and don't even ask me for help doing that.
[20:48] <TAFB> biberao: My Pi runs on an SSD :) http://tafb.yi.org/
[20:48] <crazyk> i've had a wireless card act like it's working fine then misbehave oddly without plugged into a wired hub
[20:48] <crazyk> wireless usb
[20:48] <biberao> TAFB: thats for rich ppl
[20:48] <biberao> .P
[20:48] <biberao> mmcblk0: error -110 transferring data, sector 551176, nr 184, cmd response 0x900, card status 0xb00
[20:48] <biberao> [ 390.528667] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 551176
[20:48] <biberao> the sdcard is borked
[20:48] <biberao> :p
[20:48] <TAFB> crazyk: yep. I had to solder wires to my Pi to get my wifi adapter to work :(
[20:49] <TAFB> biberao: that could still be power problem
[20:49] <TAFB> biberao: but most likely crappy SD card.
[20:49] <TAFB> what countru you live in biberao?
[20:49] <biberao> its crappy ya
[20:49] <biberao> portugal
[20:49] <TAFB> bummer
[20:49] <biberao> should fdisk -l work
[20:49] <biberao> right
[20:49] <biberao> i cant find out whats the name of the external hdd
[20:49] <biberao> to mount it
[20:50] <TAFB> biberao: see if you can find this SD card locally to you, it works flawless in the Pi: http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Memory-PEF32GSHC10233-Series-Class/dp/B007R9NJ6E
[20:50] <biberao> i will try
[20:50] <pksato> its a hw failure.
[20:50] <TAFB> biberao: I'm a linux noob, I had to get help mounting my SSD, it didn't see it or auto mount it at first either.
[20:50] <biberao> pksato: you mean
[20:50] <pksato> dump sd to trash.
[20:50] <biberao> sdcard
[20:50] <biberao> right
[20:50] <biberao> thought so
[20:50] <TAFB> lol
[20:50] <biberao> i have this verbatim class 4 SDHC
[20:51] <pksato> or, run some sd diagnostic software.
[20:51] <biberao> man how do i check which /dev/xxx
[20:51] <pksato> or, badblock -w
[20:51] <biberao> is the hdd
[20:51] <biberao> i forgot how
[20:51] <biberao> :|
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[20:53] <TAFB> biberao: what the guys here had me do was unplug my hard drive, plug it back in, then run dmesg
[20:53] <TAFB> and it showed which device the hard drive was
[20:53] <TAFB> in my case /dev/sda2
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[20:54] <biberao> bad sd card
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[20:55] <TAFB> bad bad bad sd card. spank it.
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[20:57] <GriffenJBS> biberao: have you looking in /dev/disk/?
[20:59] <biberao> GriffenJBS: i cant
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[20:59] <biberao> it says read only system
[21:01] <pksato> what is you doing?
[21:01] <biberao> pksato: ?
[21:02] <frikinz> mhh have mixed up raspbian and debian regarding udev persistent naming. No need to remove the file when swapping sd from pi to pi.
[21:03] <[SLB]> i also had a problem with a read only sd card, found out it was the sd card reader not working properly
[21:03] <frikinz> raspbian team has edited the persistent generator so for a device having 2 eth or 2 wlan, manual configuration should be done
[21:03] <gordonDrogon> I never did understand udev.
[21:03] <biberao> [SLB]: maybe its the same problem with mine
[21:03] <biberao> :p
[21:03] <frikinz> gordonDrogon: :)
[21:04] <gordonDrogon> try to turn it off if I can, but newer X's need it now.
[21:04] <frikinz> gordonDrogon: persistent naming. the same card will always get the same name and same config, that's usually wanted
[21:04] <[SLB]> usb sd card reader eheh
[21:04] <gordonDrogon> frikinz, if using dhcp, I presume?
[21:05] <frikinz> gordonDrogon: no, rather on fixed ip. the problem appears when you have 2 cards and usb enumeration is usually done in random order
[21:06] <frikinz> if both are on dhcp, well, you don't care if config is swapped
[21:06] <Armand> I leave my PCs on DHCP, and reserve the IP by MAC on the router. :)
[21:06] <gordonDrogon> all my Pi's have fixed IP addresses. the IP addres follows the SD card.
[21:06] <frikinz> I have fixed dhcp assignment
[21:06] <TAFB> Armand: I've tried that, but my cheap/crappy routers reset when the power goes out sometimes, then everything gets new IP :(
[21:06] <Armand> >_<
[21:07] <frikinz> I've suffered a few times from 2 pc having the same IP, that's a pain to diagnose
[21:07] <gordonDrogon> don't use cheap/crappy routers then ;-)
[21:07] <Armand> lol
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[21:07] <pksato> also, static ip lease can be configured on router (dhcp server)
[21:07] <Armand> I've got the newest Virgin Media router, which is ok..
[21:07] <Armand> I hate the recent update to the web interface though
[21:08] <gordonDrogon> I use a Linux box as a router...
[21:08] <Armand> I will do, in future.
[21:08] <Armand> When I setup my server. :)
[21:08] <frikinz> I have a wrt54gs rev 1.1 (yeah so old) and it can't keep up with my 20Mbps
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[21:09] <Armand> O_o
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[21:09] <gordonDrogon> heh
[21:09] <gordonDrogon> My current one is an Atom motherboard with a 4-port Ethernet card fitted.
[21:09] <pksato> some with pi, test it, echo 0 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts
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[21:10] <pksato> go to other host, and ping -b net_broad_cast_add
[21:10] <Armand> I've got a Q6600 in progress, so that will be a multi-role server.
[21:10] <pksato> like, ping -b
[21:10] <gordonDrogon> pksato, it should be no different to any other Linux box..
[21:11] <pksato> yes.
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[21:13] <pksato> from w7, not get a response.
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[21:17] <gordonDrogon> pksato, hang on, I'll test it.
[21:18] <gordonDrogon> pksato, yes, I get a reply.
[21:18] <gordonDrogon> pksato, when pinging either the .0 or the .255.
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[21:20] <pksato> easy way to discover RPi ip.
[21:20] <pksato> and other hosts.
[21:20] <gordonDrogon> there is only one other device on my network that responds to a broadcast ping - my 9 year old HP PRinter.
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[21:21] <gordonDrogon> nothing these days responds to a broadcast ping - that went out of fashion years ago.
[21:21] <IT_Sean> *PING*
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> so long ago I've forgotten the name of the DoS attack that relied on it )-:
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> smurf, or ... something like that?
[21:21] <frikinz> success! not one answer :)
[21:21] <frikinz> TFN
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> woo hoo ! video's uploaded.
[21:22] <crazyk> I use a dd-wrt as a router, but would either like an arm or x86 box that is a little higher powered
[21:22] <crazyk> gordonGrogon: what are you using for your linux router?
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> crazyk, my atom board runs at about 35 watts - mostly due to the paid of disk drives in it.
[21:22] <crazyk> gordonDrogon: what hardware I mean
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[21:23] <pksato> echo "net.ipv4.icmp_echo_ignore_broadcasts = 0" >>/etc/sysctl.conf
[21:23] <gordonDrogon> Atom 230. single core, HT.
[21:23] <pksato> to always replay a broadcast ping request.
[21:23] <gordonDrogon> it's a mini ITX board.
[21:23] <crazyk> gigE?
[21:24] <crazyk> I was thinking of trying to secure 4 port, gig e, intel, etc.
[21:24] <crazyk> as low power as possible
[21:24] <crazyk> arm if it could power it
[21:24] <gordonDrogon> it has on-board GigE, but the 4-port card is only 10/100.
[21:25] <crazyk> I keep wanting to use the Pi for this, but it wimpers when ever I speak of it in the vicinity. ;-)
[21:25] <gordonDrogon> no point here really - LAN is only 100Mb, and Atoms struggle to fill a 1Gb pipe anyway.
[21:25] <gordonDrogon> I'd not personally use a Pi as a router.
[21:25] <axion> my atom is using 8.7W atm
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> axion, a relatively new one, I presume?
[21:26] <IT_Sean> A pi as a router would probably make the network massivly slow.
[21:26] <axion> eeepc
[21:26] <crazyk> do you run the page @ https://projects.drogon.net/ ???
[21:26] <axion> about 2 years old
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[21:26] <crazyk> I am a fan. There I said it.
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> that's one of my sites.
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> :)
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> thanks!
[21:26] <rikkib> Haha
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[21:26] <crazyk> your wiringpi stuff is awesome
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[21:28] <mrmoney2012> there's a way to download youtube videos right - this one for my son 4yrs ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doN4t5NKW-k
[21:29] <rikkib> gordonDrogon, I have test cam up at a clients place... The caps are here...
[21:29] <TAFB> hmm. super strange. Trying to mount one of my windows shares on my pi: I created a folder in /mnt called winbackup, is that right, or does mount automatically create the folder?
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[21:29] <TAFB> running this command: sudo mount.cifs // /mnt/winbackup/ -o username=admin,password=
[21:29] <TAFB> no errors, nothing, but when I go to /mnt/winback and do an LS it doesn't show me any files from my windows share
[21:29] <frikinz> mrmoney2012: maybe downloadhelper, ff extension
[21:30] <TAFB> ls
[21:30] <gordonDrogon> rikkib, I see 100's of JPGs ...
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[21:30] <mrmoney2012> not sure if nasa make that video available for download
[21:30] <rikkib> swf files as well
[21:30] <gordonDrogon> you can scrape youtube videos.
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[21:32] <mrmoney2012> am going to attempt scrape...
[21:32] <frikinz> hum nice video actually :) downloadhelper fetching it with no problem
[21:32] <frikinz> 526MB version
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[21:34] <frikinz> nice extension: you can select any quality and also do on the fly conversion
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[21:35] <axion> mrmoney2012: youtube-dl -g <url> will get tne embedded video url
[21:36] <cave> hi, i am running Raspbian/LXDE headless(without display) with X11VNC... HOW can i change the resolution?
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[21:40] <mrmoney2012> frikinz: is that command line app ?
[21:40] <cave> hi, i am running Raspbian/LXDE headless(without display) with X11VNC... HOW can i change the resolution? any idea? config.txt is not working as expected
[21:41] <biberao> back
[21:41] <TAFB> cave
[21:41] <TAFB> sudo nano /boot/config.txt
[21:41] <TAFB> uncomment the resolution
[21:41] <TAFB> and set to force HDMI
[21:41] <TAFB> one sec
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[21:41] <TAFB> uncomment: #hdmi_force_hotplug=1
[21:41] <TAFB> that will set your x11vnc resolution
[21:41] <TAFB> and I love x11vnc btw :)
[21:42] <frikinz> mrmoney2012: ff aka firefox. no :)
[21:43] <mrmoney2012> sorry - yes - i see.. installing ff now on my mac
[21:43] <biberao> i made the img on a fat32 sd card
[21:43] <biberao> and it has 2 partitions now
[21:43] <biberao> its taking a lot of space
[21:43] <biberao> .|
[21:45] <TAFB> that nasa video is mind blowing :)
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[21:45] <frikinz> yeah not like the peering from youtube to my ISP
[21:46] <TAFB> frikinz: I can link the h264 of the vid if you want
[21:46] <biberao> the world ends tomorrow
[21:46] <IT_Sean> no it doesn't.
[21:46] <frikinz> TAFB: I have it
[21:46] <biberao> IT_Sean: it does :||
[21:46] <TAFB> ahh
[21:46] <TAFB> okies :)
[21:47] <cave> TAFB, thx for pointing to HDMI_FORCE_HOTPLUG that was missing.. :)
[21:47] <IT_Sean> biberao: No. It cannot. I forbid it. i JUST signed for an ew apartment, but haven't moved in, therefor the world cannot end.
[21:47] <alexjj> it's already tomorrow in Australia and it didn't end there :P
[21:47] <IT_Sean> SEE!
[21:47] <IT_Sean> PROOF!
[21:47] <TAFB> cave: no problem, it took me an entire day to figure out that x11vnc pays attention to the hdmi output to set resolution :) lol
[21:48] <biberao> IT_Sean: bribe me
[21:48] <IT_Sean> you want me to bribe you?
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[21:48] <biberao> badblocks reports no errors
[21:48] <biberao> on my sdcard
[21:48] <biberao> but the pi detects errors
[21:48] <biberao> what the hell
[21:48] <IT_Sean> Okay, here is a bribe. Stop with the end of the world junk and i won't boot you. There.
[21:48] <biberao> IT_Sean: yes
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[21:51] <cave> TAFB, do you have any idea why sometimes the vnc Screen is not responding to clicks after ALT-TAB. CTRL+ALT+F6 & CTRL+ALT+F7 solves it btw.
[21:51] <TAFB> cave: I run VNC in a window, smaller than my monitor resolution, so I never ever hit ALT-TAB
[21:52] <axion> your window manager's keybinds take priority
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[21:52] <cave> im running Gnome 3.2.something...
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[21:52] <axion> edit the keyboard shortcuts
[21:53] <cave> is this taking over the control over keybindings?
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[21:54] <cave> changing keybindings is necessary if i want to send "ALT-TAB" to the VNC Screen... but what i want is to change between other programs and the vnc window... and after using some other program and switching back to vncviewer the gui is not receiving alle inputs
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[21:55] <axion> blame gnome not giving focus
[21:56] <axion> it really is garbage
[21:56] <mrmoney2012> frikinz: download helper seems to be doing the business.. thanks :-) says it's downloading Departing Space Station Commander Provides Tour of Orbital L.mp4 (526 MB)
[21:57] <frikinz> mrmoney2012: good :) thanks for the link to the video, great. I have the same size its x264
[21:57] <frikinz> gnome3 is a bit garbage yeah
[21:57] <cave> Blame gnome *thumbs up*
[21:57] <cave> ^^
[21:58] <mrmoney2012> frikinz: no problem - a friend of mine gave me the link just today - i will download it and play it via xbmc on my big telly.
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[22:06] <IT_Sean> Hahah. Just heard on Australian news radio: "It hasn't happened yetm but, the mayan calendar predicts that teh world will end today" :p
[22:07] <axion> IT_Sean: kick yourself :)
[22:07] <IT_Sean> um... No.
[22:07] <axion> hypocrit
[22:07] <rymate1234> I will be able to confirm in 3 hours
[22:07] <rymate1234> whether the world will end in GMT
[22:07] <rymate1234> (if I'm not asleep)
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[22:10] <GriffenJBS> anyone have a graphic of the are of the CPU vs GPU on the BCM2708?
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[22:12] <Joeboy> GriffenJBS: There's a memory map in the bcm peripherals guide
[22:12] <GriffenJBS> Joeboy: I'm talking about die size
[22:12] <GriffenJBS> opps; graphic of the area of ...
[22:13] <Joeboy> Oh ok, no then
[22:14] <TAFB> ok, I mounted a share on my Pi, to my windows box, but when I do an LS in the /mnt/winbackup folder, I get nothing? // cifs 1.9T 1.4T 474G 75% /mnt/winbackup
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[22:15] <TAFB> windows drive is ntfs of course
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[22:18] <Torikun> TAFB: you there
[22:18] <TAFB> yep
[22:18] <Torikun> what should I use for imap and smtp for thunderbird
[22:19] <Torikun> smtp.rusher81572.com?
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[22:20] <Torikun> nothign is working in Thunderbird lol
[22:20] <TAFB> Torikun: once you verify postfix can actually send mail, then you would put rusher81572.dyndns.org for smtp.
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[22:21] <TAFB> if postfix CAN'T send mail, then you might need to use smarthost through isp's mailserver.
[22:21] <Torikun> what about imap
[22:21] <TAFB> i've never used imap, I assume it'd be the same address: rusher81572.dyndns.org
[22:21] <Torikun> Thunderbird failed to find the settings for your email account
[22:22] <TAFB> it can't autosearch, you gotta enter manually.
[22:22] <IT_Sean> Are you doing an autoconfig?
[22:22] <Torikun> Yeah
[22:22] <IT_Sean> You might have to do it manually
[22:22] <TAFB> lol
[22:22] <IT_Sean> Ah, i see TAFB beat me to it.
[22:22] <rikkib> The world has not ended here and we are the first to see the light of a new day... It is raining however In the upper half of the North Island NZ
[22:22] <IT_Sean> If the correct SRV record isn't in place on the DNS, autoconfig won't work.
[22:23] <TAFB> rikkib: great news! only 4:22pm here
[22:23] <Essobi> YAY
[22:23] <Torikun> I do not see how to do it manual anymore
[22:23] <IT_Sean> rikkib: i'm listening to Australian new radio, in case it suddenly cuts off :p
[22:23] <TAFB> on the weather report on the news this morning, for "overnight" it showed a picture of a meteor shower! lol
[22:23] <rikkib> The cyclon that got Samoa and Fiji has arrived.
[22:23] <Torikun> TAFB: why rusher81572.dyndns.org rather than .com
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[22:24] <TAFB> because your .com is only for incoming e-mail from outside servers, everything that needs to connect to the pi to read/download/send, etc. has to use rusher81572.dyndns.org
[22:24] <atouk> world doesn't end until midnight MST (mayan standard time)
[22:24] <Torikun> so what should I use for my email address ?
[22:25] <Torikun> @dyndns?
[22:25] <TAFB> joe@yourdomain.com
[22:25] <crazyk> re: weather... my son picked a wildflower in my back yard this past week
[22:25] <crazyk> usually it's snowing around here this time of year
[22:25] <TAFB> Torikun: nope
[22:25] <TAFB> crazyk: global warming ftw
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[22:26] <crazyk> rain at the moment :-|
[22:26] <Torikun> manual config not working
[22:26] <Torikun> dam
[22:26] <TAFB> big storm here, power has went out three times today!
[22:26] <TAFB> Torikun: paste bin or screen capture all the settings you're putting in tunderbird
[22:27] <Torikun> rusher81572.com/untitled.bmp
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[22:27] <TAFB> the weather here right now: http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?brand=wxmap&query=43.65794,-79.50806&lat=43.65794&lon=-79.50806&zoom=9&type=hyb&units=english&wxsn=0&rad=1&rad.num=6&rad.spd=25&rad.opa=70&rad.stm=0&rad.type=N0R&rad.type2=&rad.smo=1&rad.mrg=0&sat=0&cams=0&svr=0&tor=0
[22:28] <Torikun> dam would not upload
[22:28] <TAFB> lol, i see that
[22:29] <crazyk> TAFB: I moved from Ontario a year ago
[22:29] <rikkib> My bench camera crashed overnight doing an awful lot of logging.
[22:29] <TAFB> crazyk: congrats :) where you now?
[22:29] <Torikun> now try
[22:29] <crazyk> TAFB: Michigan
[22:29] <TAFB> like it better?
[22:29] <crazyk> TAFB: I like it here too, but Ontario is nice
[22:30] <crazyk> TAFB: different culture, seems more laid back
[22:30] <crazyk> TAFB: Ontario that is
[22:30] <TAFB> Torikun: can you try pop3 instead of imap?
[22:30] <Torikun> lety me enable it with dovecot
[22:30] <TAFB> crazyk: My brother went to EMU :)
[22:30] <IT_Sean> imap > pop
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[22:30] <TAFB> IT_Sean: i know, this is just for troubleshooting
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[22:31] <IT_Sean> I see
[22:31] <Torikun> pop no owrk
[22:31] <TAFB> k. 1 sec. let me test from this end
[22:32] <Torikun> mmm
[22:32] <Torikun> pop not open still
[22:32] <Torikun> let me enable on firewall
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[22:33] <Torikun> ok port opened
[22:33] <Torikun> no work
[22:33] <TAFB> works for me
[22:33] <TAFB> i can read your mails
[22:34] <TAFB> what's Dovecot?
[22:34] <Torikun> huh]
[22:34] <Torikun> dovecot is email server
[22:34] <TAFB> ahh
[22:34] <IT_Sean> email server process
[22:34] <TAFB> yep. works peachy
[22:34] <Torikun> wtf thunderbird
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[22:34] <TAFB> rofl. for pop3 you're using rusher81572.dyndns.org
[22:34] <Torikun> hmmm
[22:34] <IT_Sean> Why are you using thunderturd?
[22:34] <TAFB> with a good username and password?
[22:35] <Torikun> maybe it is my work laptop blocking it?
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[22:35] <elainebenes> why raspberrypi over arduino?
[22:35] <TAFB> Torikun: could be, could be blocking port 25 and imap too ;)
[22:35] <TAFB> elainebenes: cause there's so many pie jokes that go along with it, just makes it better.
[22:35] <Torikun> time for ssh proxy
[22:35] <pmagi> Ok, here is a picture of the basics in my firework ignition system :) http://i50.tinypic.com/2e31jko.jpg
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[22:36] <TAFB> elainebenes: http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[22:36] <TAFB> pmagi: wow! NICE!!!!
[22:36] <Dippyskoodlez> over arduino? I use it WITh my arduinos :o
[22:36] <pmagi> In the upper right corner should the 12V 7.2Ah Battery be placed.
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[22:36] <pmagi> And to the left i'll mount the externa connectyors for the e-matches
[22:37] <Torikun> no worky
[22:37] <pmagi> Ill give you another pic when i have done more :)
[22:37] <TAFB> pmagi: you didn't need to run so many gpio wires right? you coulda just ran a few and had 255 relays right?
[22:37] <pmagi> TAFB what?
[22:37] <TAFB> pmagi: my friend built a lighting controller for his christmas lights, 250 relays, and I saw it hooked up to his pie, like 5 gpio wires.
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[22:38] <pmagi> Then he has 5 groups that he can control
[22:38] <pmagi> I have 16 groups
[22:38] <TAFB> he said he could "stack on" extra relay boards too, same gpio wires.
[22:38] <gordonDrogon> new video for you :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kscX6m42qJI
[22:39] <TAFB> pmagi: he send a command to the relay board to tell it which one to turn on and off, it doesn't use the actual gpio to turn them on and off?
[22:39] <gordonDrogon> big shift register setup? I never did work out why people put them into 'groups. ..
[22:39] <pmagi> TAFB kind of hard to know when i dont know how his system works.
[22:39] <Torikun> TAFB: trying thunderbird from linux box now
[22:39] <TAFB> Torikun: good luck
[22:40] <pmagi> TAFB I control 1 relay with one gpio pin
[22:40] <Torikun> ah results!
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[22:40] <TAFB> pmagi: but why? for fireworks controller you might need 1000's of individual outputs, use GPIO better, to just address relays, instead of direct control.
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[22:41] <pmagi> TAFB didn't know that. This is my first project and contact with RasPi
[22:41] <TAFB> pmagi: Nice! it looks awesome, but I think there's a much much better way to do it ;)
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[22:42] <pmagi> I'll listen, eager to learn :)=
[22:42] <TAFB> pmagi: with a little controller chip on the relay board, only a few gpio wires and you can stack the relay board to have 100,000 relays if you want
[22:42] <pmagi> Ok
[22:42] <TAFB> my friend says he got the chip from adafruit
[22:42] <pmagi> How does that work then?
[22:42] <pmagi> what does the initial 5 gpio pins do?
[22:43] <TAFB> pmagi: they just talk to the little chip. SMBUS? and tell it the address of the relay to turn on and off.
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[22:44] <pmagi> As i said, this is my first contact of electronics :)
[22:45] <TAFB> pmagi: No problem, you did awesome :)
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[22:45] <pmagi> So i don't have a clue what possibilities i have :)
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[22:45] <TAFB> maybe better chrismas lights controller than firework launcher ;)
[22:45] <TAFB> pmagi: but you can do awesome :) your work looks gerat
[22:45] <IT_Sean> you can launch, individually, thousands of fireworks!!
[22:45] <pmagi> I only have 16 shells to fire, i don't mind "reloading" :)
[22:45] <TAFB> if you can figure out how to make the relays addressable, and all share the same SMBUS, you can control tons and tons of them, with very simple wires and control boards.
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[22:46] <Torikun> TAFB username of password invalid
[22:46] <pmagi> It's a hobby, not a profession. But i would still like to learn how to implement better functions.
[22:46] <Torikun> COnfigureagion chould not be verified
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[22:47] <TAFB> pmagi: lol :) For my local gun range I borrowed 137 tubes, from 2" up to 12", and made a special audio file with square wave to fire the fireworks, only one command, started it on it's way, no special controller, one relay "enabled" the next, the next pulse of audio would fire it. worked sweet :)
[22:47] <TAFB> Torikun: IT'S WORKING!
[22:47] <Torikun> then why no work
[22:47] <Torikun> lol
[22:47] <TAFB> Torikun: now you just gotta figure out your username/password for postfix ;)
[22:48] <Torikun> rusher
[22:48] <Torikun> is the account username
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[22:48] <TAFB> might be rusher@email.com for the username
[22:48] <TAFB> or maube even rusher@dyndnsdomain.org
[22:48] <Torikun> maybe it was password trying 123
[22:48] <TAFB> lol
[22:48] <pmagi> Anyone got problems with ip-addressing wlan0 as static ip?
[22:48] <Torikun> username or password invalid
[22:48] <Torikun> dam
[22:48] <TAFB> pmagi: nope, worked sweet. one sec for pastebin
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[22:49] <Torikun> nodda
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[22:50] <TAFB> pmagi: hmmm, I seem to have lost my /etc/network/interfaces file with my static wireless ip adderss setup in it :(
[22:50] <TAFB> Torikun: everything's working, that's postfix telling you you're not using the right username/password
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[22:51] <Torikun> should just be rusher lol
[22:51] <Torikun> pam
[22:51] <TAFB> k. lemme test, one sec.
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[22:52] <pmagi> http://pastie.org/private/tjslphrbi6z0cwlj9raj1q
[22:52] <pmagi> That should work right?
[22:52] <TAFB> missing gateway
[22:52] <pmagi> no
[22:52] <Torikun> with autodetect, it says incoming is imap.rusher81572.com
[22:52] <pmagi> I dont have gateway for that interface
[22:52] <pmagi> wlan0 is in master mode, and acts as a AP.
[22:53] <TAFB> freaky
[22:53] <pmagi> So i would always whant that interface to have
[22:53] <Torikun> and autodetect says smtp is rusher81572.com
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[22:54] <pmagi> TAFB the strange thing is, if i just issue ifup wlan0 the address is activated
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[22:58] <frikinz> does this file work? having roaming and dhcp and static on the same interface?
[22:59] <frikinz> oh AP mode. mmmhh
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[23:04] <gordonDrogon> Pi Calculator: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eYmtc3by3k
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[23:06] <pmagi> frikinz have you figured out how to edit the html page for webiopi?
[23:06] <pmagi> well.. webiopi.js
[23:08] <frikinz> pmagi: mmh no, I've began doing my own. let me have a look again
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[23:09] <pmagi> I can control everything except pins 3 and 5
[23:09] <pmagi> oh and 10
[23:09] <pmagi> 2 and 5 is I2C1 SDA/SCL
[23:10] <pmagi> 10 is UART0 RX
[23:10] <frikinz> also saw this one yesterday https://github.com/EnotionZ/GpiO
[23:11] <frikinz> should be a renumbering anyway?
[23:11] <frikinz> always easier to say than to do isn't it :)
[23:12] <pmagi> yea :)
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[23:13] <TAFB> wow, some not nice weather heading our way :( http://wxug.us/vdgp
[23:14] <frikinz> mmhh green acid rains
[23:14] <TAFB> lol
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[23:14] <TAFB> green is rain, purple is mixed rain/snow/freezing rain and blue is snow.
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[23:15] <atouk> dont eat the blue snow
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[23:17] <rikkib> New potato's dug for Xmas 5Kg
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[23:19] <confusid> how do I go about making a webcam work?
[23:20] <TAFB> ohhhhh fancy: http://www.4dsystems.com.au/prod.php?id=195
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[23:21] <pmagi> frikinz http://pastie.org/private/dqhywjzr4qwlnehw1rrmeq
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[23:22] <pmagi> perhaps an outdated README
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[23:26] <frikinz> pmagi: https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/pins/
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[23:27] <frikinz> pmagi: https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/ . for your stuff, you could also hack something in php that does a shell_exec echo 1 > /proc/gpio/ ...
[23:27] <TAFB> what voltage are the GPIO outputs?
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[23:27] <frikinz> we have some php shell_exec expert in here ;)
[23:27] <TAFB> frikinz: lol
[23:28] <TAFB> frikinz: I'm going to let people control LED lights and also type a message on an LCD screen, right from my status page, with live Picam ;)
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[23:30] <pmagi> frikinz http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/06/simple-guide-to-the-rpi-gpio-header-and-pins/raspberry-pi-gpio-layout-revision-2/
[23:30] <pmagi> thats the one i have been looking at.
[23:31] <pmagi> so pin3 is relay1, pin5 is relay2, pin7 is relay3 and so on
[23:32] <TAFB> woot, pi has been up 2 days 0 mins http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[23:32] <pmagi> And it corresponds to the schematics when i activate/deactivate the pins with webiopi
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[23:36] <pmagi> hmnm what revision do i have? Revision: 000e
[23:37] <TAFB> pmagi: that revision is your "warranty void/good" flag ;)
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[23:47] <Megaf> hi folks, have you played Quake III on rpi?
[23:47] <Megaf> does it runs ok?
[23:48] <TAFB> Megaf: I try and play it at least an hour a day, runs sweet.
[23:48] <TAFB> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTY_ch2qNII
[23:48] <TAFB> that's my first time playing :)
[23:48] <TAFB> with the resolution and all detail cranked as high as it'll go
[23:48] <Megaf> cool
[23:49] <Megaf> TAFB, is that you?
[23:49] <TAFB> that is me :)
[23:50] <Megaf> its a bit laggy
[23:50] <Megaf> just a bit
[23:50] <Megaf> but looks really good
[23:50] <TAFB> my mouse was on a sticky surface, you can see in some parts it's very smooth, so sometimes it looks laggy, but I'm just jerking the mouse
[23:50] <TAFB> but yep, with smoke from rocket launcher and flame effects, does maybe 20fps
[23:50] <TAFB> but smoother everywhere else
[23:51] <Megaf> so, I see no X server
[23:51] <TAFB> x server? it runs in dos
[23:51] <TAFB> er I mean terminal/shell
[23:51] <Megaf> framebuffer
[23:51] <Megaf> that looks awesome
[23:52] <Megaf> subscribed :)
[23:52] <TAFB> hehe. It may have been running a bit slow because I was running my webserver and e-mail server in the background too ;)
[23:52] <TAFB> http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[23:53] <Megaf> 1 GHz :S
[23:53] <TAFB> the only way to roll ;)
[23:53] <TAFB> forced 1ghz too
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[23:57] <lee> nifty, hotpi just got funded on kickstarter
[23:57] <TAFB> link
[23:58] <lee> apparently there are 201 other people too lazy to build a LIRC compatible transmitter/receiver =)
[23:58] <mhz> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/582604098/hotpi
[23:58] <shapr> yay!
[23:59] <mhz> I will come to your house, bake you a Hot Raspberry Pie (with custard if desired) and install for you a pre-assembled HotPi, a stylish heatsink, fan and a Raspberry-Pi with XBMC and the HotPi preconfigured on a 4Gb memory card all in a stylish case.
[23:59] <mhz> hahaha
[23:59] <mhz> Limited (5 of 5 left)

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