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IRC Log for 2012-12-21

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[0:00] <lee> I don't think the custard would do the Pi any good. pretty sure custard oozing out of a case isn't very stylish either
[0:00] <mhz> i'm pretty sure i wouldn't want him anywhere near my house
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[0:01] <TAFB> my friend had to bake his Pi in the oven to get it to work
[0:01] <TAFB> I was going to have to do that to my first Pi's, but right before i put em in the oven I got an e-mail from the supplier they had just received big shipment of Pi's and could swap them out
[0:02] <TAFB> how to properly bake a Pi: gough.ath.cx/?p=160
[0:02] <TAFB> http://gough.ath.cx/?p=160
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[0:04] <crazyk> hotpi sounds cool
[0:04] <lee> hope so, as it includes a fan
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[0:05] <TAFB> who needs a fan, when your entire case is a heatsink? http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-17-RaspberryPi_with_external_drive.jpg
[0:05] <crazyk> I just got a 3tb mybook live from western digital and boy does that thing get hot
[0:05] <TAFB> overclocked at forced 1ghz: Current CPU Temperature = 28.2 C (82.8 F)
[0:05] <crazyk> i'd like to cool it when it gets warm, rather than just have a fan blowing on it constantly
[0:06] <crazyk> hotpi for mybook live please
[0:06] <crazyk> :-)
[0:06] <TAFB> anyone connect to windows shares with the Pi? I'm having a super weird issue.
[0:06] <shapr> Is there a way to toggle the USB power on/off for a particular port on the Raspberry Pi?
[0:07] <TAFB> yeah, plug in a bus powered hard drive = power off
[0:07] <pksato> shapr: no.
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[0:07] <Megaf> shapr, thats not possible at all
[0:07] <shapr> Too bad, would be handy.
[0:07] <Megaf> not via software
[0:08] <Megaf> you can always do some hardware hacking, something the involves some soldering
[0:08] <Megaf> but only if you really know what you are doing
[0:08] <TAFB> shapr: you could control the USB power with the GPIO if you did some hacking ;)
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[0:08] <Megaf> TAFB, Im thinking in cut the USB power lines
[0:08] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[0:09] <TAFB> Megaf: yep
[0:09] <Megaf> and put and independent one
[0:09] <TAFB> they do something like this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/eU2tt.jpg
[0:09] <Megaf> directly from the PSU
[0:09] <TAFB> except the wires would go to a relay of of 5V gpio
[0:09] <TAFB> no external power, nothin needed
[0:09] <TAFB> you could toggle usb power on and off ;)
[0:09] <Megaf> yep, I would do something like that
[0:09] <shapr> That looks exciting. Perhaps too exciting for me at the moment.
[0:10] <Megaf> but I would get the power from the PSU im using to power the rpi
[0:10] <TAFB> yeah, the 5v gpio power gets it's power form "the psu you're using to power the pi" :)
[0:11] <Megaf> :P
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[0:11] <Megaf> well, I gotta go now, good to talk with you TAFB, cya
[0:11] <TAFB> ttyl. be safe
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[0:16] <crazyk> who came up with "pi" for the name. I love it!
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[0:19] <TAFB> crazyk: It stand for python :)
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[0:19] <crazyk> no kidding
[0:19] <crazyk> I haven't used python on my pi yet
[0:19] <TAFB> they used raspberry as a throw back to old computers, were named after fruit and stuff
[0:20] <crazyk> lots of bash though
[0:20] <crazyk> applebash
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[0:31] <crazyk> anyone know of jobs where I can play with my pi all day long? I'd like to work at adafruit I think
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[0:33] <crazyk> i'm a little confused as to how to land the cool jobs, like blogging about tech
[0:33] <crazyk> and actually making money on it
[0:35] <crazyk> i suspect I may be speaking to the choir?
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[0:36] <Dr_Willis_> you can make money with computers?
[0:37] <rikkib> TAFB, Does your page show the serial number of the board?
[0:37] <TAFB> rikkib: I believe it does not, is there a way to pull it with software?
[0:37] <TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi_problem_serial_sticker.jpg
[0:37] <rikkib> It is in cpuinfo
[0:38] <TAFB> gimme the command and I'll add er to my page right away :)
[0:38] <rikkib> Can be pulled just like you do other stuff
[0:38] <TAFB> pfft
[0:38] <TAFB> command
[0:38] <TAFB> need
[0:38] <TAFB> noob
[0:38] <bjp> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[0:38] <TAFB> http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[0:38] <TAFB> ahhh, my status is already doing that command
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[0:38] <rikkib> The everything after the : is the s num
[0:38] <TAFB> Serial : 00000000d2c39d9c
[0:38] <rikkib> Ten
[0:39] <rikkib> then
[0:39] <rikkib> ug
[0:39] <gordonDrogon> display controlling LEDs.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kscX6m42qJI
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[0:39] * rikkib is making a udp cli server for testing
[0:39] <rikkib> in C
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[0:39] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: those touch screens are so awesome
[0:40] <gordonDrogon> yea, they're quite cool!
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[0:40] <gordonDrogon> I've had them for a couple of weeks now.
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[0:42] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: do you think I could control and pull images from my Canon dslr camera with the Pi (I have a t2i/550d)?
[0:42] <frikinz> indeed, I've watched the previous video. quite nice
[0:42] <rikkib> You have an &nbsp minus the ; under Health
[0:42] <rikkib> TAFB,
[0:42] <TAFB> rikkib: thanks
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[0:42] <TAFB> i'll take a look :)
[0:43] * rikkib back to your code and find the cat...
[0:43] <TAFB> cat is in php, not html
[0:43] <pksato> Canon cameras cab be controled via USB, with ptp.
[0:43] <TAFB> k. I fixed nbsp :)
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[0:44] <TAFB> i was having super weird issues doing the CSS text background colour, that's why I had to use nbsp :)
[0:44] <rikkib> Ahhh I skipped over the first cat cpuinfo
[0:44] <TAFB> :)
[0:44] <TAFB> you're looking at the php source?
[0:45] <rikkib> Yep
[0:45] <TAFB> nice
[0:45] <crazyk> TAFB: have you thought about <canvas> for that cpu total load graphic?
[0:45] <rikkib> Now I figured I have two versions in my archive
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[0:45] <rikkib> I was looking at the old version yesterday
[0:45] <TAFB> crazyk: canvas is unknown to me.
[0:46] <rikkib> or day before. whatever when I grabbed it
[0:46] <crazyk> I'm thinking it would be sweet if that status page was more HTML5 ish and less, "refresh" ish
[0:46] <TAFB> the graph is generated by phpChart. I have a background .png image for it just as a placeholder to stop the chart from "flashing" when the page refreshes.
[0:46] <crazyk> not to minimize what it does already
[0:47] <TAFB> crazyk: yeah, but with over 100 things to HTML5 ish, no thanks.
[0:47] <TAFB> basically, every single thing on the page is dynamic
[0:47] <crazyk> yeah the load could get heavy
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[0:48] <Joeboy> You'd just make a single ajax call that told the page all the stats
[0:48] <Joeboy> The load on the server would be less
[0:48] <crazyk> I find on my 256 MB PI, running a local copy of http://karlherrick.com is fairly slow (wordpress and it's dependencies)
[0:48] <crazyk> my code isn't the cleanest though
[0:48] <TAFB> crazyk: yep, and the way my caching technlogo works, is it generates that static page to the viewers, only once, reguardless of the number of page hits, hence the full 'refresh' so it gets the current cached html file.
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[0:49] <TAFB> if I move the dynamic refresh to 15 seconds it only uses 1.5% of the cpu instead of like 12%
[0:49] <TAFB> right now it's in a constant update full loop
[0:49] <TAFB> no delay
[0:49] <TAFB> lol
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[0:50] <TAFB> is wordpress php?
[0:50] <frikinz> and to 5 seconds?
[0:50] <Joeboy> yes it is.
[0:51] <TAFB> frikinz: the php script takes 3 seconds to generate, so moving it to 5 seconds wouldn't lessen the cpu load very much
[0:51] <frikinz> TAFB: ok, didn't read properly
[0:51] <TAFB> frikinz: no problem, I'm doing a really wacky page cache setup, I don't expect anyone else to understand it :)
[0:51] <crazyk> built on php/jquery
[0:52] <TAFB> crazyk: is the page interactive at all, for the viewers? i.e. does it make any calls in php or anything AFTER the page is loaded?
[0:52] <crazyk> no
[0:52] <crazyk> my site is just loading a ton of data
[0:52] <crazyk> heavy on the mysql side I suspect
[0:52] <frikinz> I have done one in perl/jQ http://teebeenator.n0n3m.com:666/?refresh=1000
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[0:52] <crazyk> too many plugins loaded, and too much CSS
[0:53] <crazyk> I haven't optimized it at all
[0:53] <TAFB> crazyk: you could use my super crazy page caching technology to improve the speed by 18984%!
[0:53] <frikinz> though 1000ms refresh is a bit tricky with the gpio
[0:53] <crazyk> haha!
[0:53] <crazyk> :-)
[0:53] <TAFB> crazyk: you running wheezy?
[0:53] <crazyk> yes
[0:53] <TAFB> crazyk: ok, super insane command coming right up...
[0:53] <TAFB> wait till you see this
[0:54] <TAFB> is your home page called index.php?
[0:54] <gordonDrogon> TAFB, have a look at a package called dPhoto ..
[0:54] <crazyk> @ karlherrick.com, index.php is the starting point that Wordpress is called from
[0:54] <crazyk> but that is not hosted on my Pi.
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[0:54] <crazyk> I'm just saying that for local web development
[0:54] <crazyk> my Pi is a dog
[0:55] <gordonDrogon> TAFB, hm. maybe it's not called dphoto anymore. there is a package that can control cameras though.
[0:55] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: okies, I'll ask google ;)
[0:55] <TAFB> crazyk: aww :( are you hosting it on your own server at least?
[0:55] <crazyk> I was just dreaming of that cpu load meter whipping back and forth via a <canvas> element
[0:56] <crazyk> and some client side scripting
[0:56] <TAFB> crazyk: it's generated by a php script, monster cpu load to do it :( there will be no flawless whipping back and fourth of the needle.
[0:56] <crazyk> haha
[0:56] <crazyk> I love it
[0:56] <TAFB> just click the refresh link once every 3 seconds
[0:56] <TAFB> it'll whip
[0:56] <crazyk> you can do it!
[0:56] <crazyk> :-)
[0:57] <TAFB> crazyk: where is karlherrick.com hosted?
[0:57] <gordonDrogon> TAFB, gPhoto!
[0:57] <crazyk> 1and1
[0:58] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: thanks.
[0:58] <crazyk> shameless shared hosting
[0:58] <crazyk> :-(
[0:58] <gordonDrogon> it's a standard debian package.
[0:58] <TAFB> crazyk: ok, I'll try caching your page on my Pi, ever tried it with outside server, one sec.
[0:58] <TAFB> never tried...
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[0:59] <TAFB> what's the rc. boot file thing and where is it again?
[0:59] <mhz> ?
[1:00] <gordonDrogon> Happy Solstice, everyone.
[1:00] <TAFB> there's some file, that loads at boot, lazy way to put ish in your startup instead of crontab
[1:00] <TAFB> can't remember what the file is called
[1:00] <gordonDrogon> /etc/rc.local
[1:00] <TAFB> that's the one :)
[1:00] <TAFB> hehe
[1:00] <mhz> there you go
[1:00] <TAFB> k. caching outside server here we go
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[1:03] <TAFB> crazyk: check out how fast it loads on my Pi: http://tafb.yi.org:8000/karlfast.php
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[1:03] <TAFB> it's going some google thing that slows down the page load a lot
[1:03] <TAFB> if I got rid of that it's probably load instantly
[1:03] <crazyk> fonts
[1:04] <TAFB> fonts?
[1:04] <crazyk> google fonts
[1:04] <crazyk> had to jazz it up
[1:04] <crazyk> looking for a job
[1:04] <crazyk> you know. :-)
[1:04] <TAFB> hmmm. freaky
[1:04] <TAFB> no, the delay is google analytics, just ran your site in firebug
[1:04] <TAFB> anyway, how you like how it runs from my Pi? :)
[1:05] <crazyk> it's faster than I expected
[1:05] <TAFB> fo sho
[1:05] <TAFB> and that's on my crappy cable modem with slow upload too
[1:05] <TAFB> I can probably do a php str_replace to nuke the google analytics out of the page as it caches it and then it'd be rockin :)
[1:06] <TAFB> I didn't know I could cache outside servers ;)
[1:06] <TAFB> what you could do is leave the site on 1and1, but transfer the dns to your Pi and host it from the Pi. you do all the editing and upload to 1and1, but all the code runs from the Pi.
[1:06] <TAFB> still sucks cause I see your 1and1 is slow even pulling up the images :(
[1:07] <crazyk> I suspect 1and1 has more engineers than at my house, so their servers are probably a little more stable than what my wife and kids can maintain. ;-)
[1:07] <crazyk> plus the cost is right, know what I'm saying?
[1:08] <TAFB> cost? for what? to host your Pi at home? $.06 per month?
[1:08] <crazyk> no, cost per maintenance ratio
[1:08] * akiwiguy|away is now known as akiwiguy
[1:08] <TAFB> what maintance would you do? the Pi would run itself, any issues would be on 1and1's end, lol
[1:08] <crazyk> they have had issues too
[1:09] <crazyk> http://karlherrick.com/dev/?s=1and1&submit=Search
[1:09] <TAFB> rofl
[1:09] <TAFB> yikes
[1:09] <TAFB> you should switch to globat for hosting. $4/mo, insane fast servers, unlimited storage and bandwidth
[1:10] <TAFB> globat is where I run all my domains that store my files, pictures, etc. and my main site http://ecuflashking.com
[1:10] <crazyk> TAFB: just a minute ago, you were suggesting switching to .06/mo insane fast, self hosted, rpi hosting.
[1:10] <crazyk> :-)
[1:10] <TAFB> crazyk: only the php file is on the Pi, all the images and everything else is on a big server
[1:10] <crazyk> man I miss IRC
[1:11] <crazyk> I haven't had this much fun since like 1996
[1:11] <TAFB> lol
[1:11] <TAFB> i use globat to store all my images for my websites, and they run a site or two of mine, i.e. http://ecuflashking.com etc.
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[1:13] <SeanAM> Hello room
[1:13] <TAFB> well hello
[1:13] <SeanAM> :)
[1:13] <SeanAM> I'm on my Pi as we speak
[1:13] <SeanAM> :
[1:13] <SeanAM> :D
[1:13] <TAFB> nice!
[1:13] <crazyk> irssi?
[1:13] <fayimora> hey guys i've got a pi but don't have a keyboard. I thought the pi came with bluetooth. Anyways, whats the easiest way to use my wireless mac keyboard?
[1:13] <SeanAM> yup
[1:13] <fayimora> Don't want to buy another keyboard
[1:14] <TAFB> fayimora: if your mac keyboard is bluetooth, you'll have to get a usb bluetooth adapter for the pi
[1:14] <crazyk> from my experience, those wireless mac keyboards are difficult to get working, even with ubuntu
[1:14] <TAFB> a new keyboard is $6
[1:14] <TAFB> just buy one (usb)
[1:14] <fayimora> TAFB: lol i'm just over excited.. I'll buy one tomorrow then.. damn
[1:14] <SeanAM> does anyone have the sticky key issue with the keyboard?
[1:14] <TAFB> fayimora: you have NO computers with usb keyboard anywhere in the house? friends?
[1:14] <SeanAM> I need to plug my kyboard to an external hub to prevent the issue
[1:15] <TAFB> SeanAM: do you have a usb mouse connected as well?
[1:15] <fayimora> TAFB: nope not anymore
[1:15] <pksato> problem, how to conf. bt keyboard with out one ?
[1:15] <TAFB> pksato: ahhh, chicken before the egg, forgot! lol
[1:15] <SeanAM> TAFB: nope.. Just a keyboard and an ASUS USB Wireless N-10 adapter
[1:15] <TAFB> maybe he could enable ssh on SD card in card reader, then put in back in pi and ssh to control
[1:16] <Hexxeh> teh_orph has done a pretty awesome job with his X driver..!
[1:16] <TAFB> SeanAM: did you read the thread on sticky keys on rpi.org forums? it's a speed problem between high speed usb device (like your wifi) and goofy speed device (like your keyboard)
[1:16] <TAFB> also make sure you're running the newest firmware
[1:16] <pksato> sshd must be come enabled,
[1:16] <TAFB> SeanAM: https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update/
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[1:16] <SeanAM> thanks
[1:18] <TAFB> SeanAM: my Pi status page hosted on my Pi, if you haven't seen it: http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
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[1:22] <Dr_Willis_> Hmmmm. somthing seems weird with the commands to update the pi firmware
[1:22] <Dr_Willis_> sudo wget http://goo.gl/1BOfJ -O /usr/bin/rpi-update && sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/rpi-update
[1:22] <Dr_Willis_> Guess the sudo is to put it in the /usr/bin dir.. but why cant it just run from a local directory?
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[1:23] <TAFB> they just use that command for noobs, so it downloads the file, put it in some spot, run it, etc. all in one command.
[1:24] <Dr_Willis_> i need to move it to a 2nd pi also.
[1:24] <TAFB> shouldn't have a problem copying it over
[1:24] <Dr_Willis_> Idiot proofing. ;) gotta love it
[1:24] <TAFB> just remember to chmod the file and make it executable
[1:24] <rikkib> sft
[1:24] <rikkib> sftp
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[1:25] <xenophile> think i will hang elsewhere
[1:25] <xenophile> fucking censors
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[1:25] <rikkib> cu
[1:25] <rikkib> L
[1:25] <TAFB> ok, my uptime is getting too big, I'm have to edit my index.php and make it line wrap it, brb.
[1:26] <crazyk> now that is agile development
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[1:27] <rikkib> symlink to the php in another dir and change file type matching in the web server for that dir to map php to txt
[1:29] <rikkib> Or any other of the million and one ways to show dynamic changes to source
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[1:32] <Dr_Willis_> firmware updated. :) time to reboots.. wonder if i will notice any gain on my Desktop-Pi. :)
[1:33] <Dr_Willis_> Here goes my 2 day Uptime. Seems the thing is more stable now that ive let it just run for a day or 2.
[1:33] <crazyk> you mean, and stopped using it?
[1:33] <crazyk> :-)
[1:34] <crazyk> for me, the most stable things I own, are the ones I let alone
[1:35] <Dr_Willis_> I need to change the Name of my Hostname also. ;) gotta change it to SweetiePi Or CuteiePi
[1:35] <TAFB> lol
[1:35] <Dr_Willis_> Hmm.. If you could find a plastic ApplePie for a case... ;)
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[1:36] <Dr_Willis_> I did find some gift box's and metal tins that could be used for a neat case. but i sort of like how i have it hanging on the wall right now
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[1:36] <SeanAM> sticky key no more
[1:36] <Dr_Willis_> Sort of an Art-deco-nerd look
[1:36] <SeanAM> :)
[1:36] <TAFB> SeanAM: great news :) they fixed a lot of usb stuff in the new firmware :)
[1:36] <crazyk> haha, no more sticky key on the raspberry pi
[1:36] <crazyk> that's awesome
[1:37] * SeanAM celebrates
[1:37] <SeanAM> :)
[1:37] <Dr_Willis_> Aha. I bet i could find one of those Shadow Box-Picture frames. Then i can hang it on the wall behind glass.
[1:37] <Dr_Willis_> next to my Velvet Elvis
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[1:38] <crazyk> I want ninjaPi
[1:38] <crazyk> hidden in the wall, and unseen
[1:38] <crazyk> but available to do my bidding
[1:38] <Dr_Willis_> Put it in a Personal sized Pizza box for the PizzaPi
[1:38] <crazyk> ninjaPi would talk to carPi
[1:38] <ReggieUK> TAFB, what did they fix?
[1:39] <crazyk> and transfer my driving logs to capture crazies on the road
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[1:41] <SeanAM> whois SeanAM
[1:41] <TAFB> ReggieUK: was timing issue, read the sticky keys thread on rpi.org
[1:41] <crazyk> carPi would have a distance sensor for Radio Shack attached to the bumper
[1:41] <crazyk> and that new sensor cam coming out in January to capture the car's pic
[1:42] <TAFB> i tried carPi, audio quality was not up to snuff for my stereo system
[1:42] <crazyk> auto roaming from wifi ap to wifi ap and auto uploading offenders who mess with carPi
[1:42] <crazyk> man, I have this all planned out
[1:43] <crazyk> the bots are coming, we just have to build them
[1:43] <ReggieUK> TAFB, which stickykeys thread?
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[1:43] <crazyk> did you guys see that article about the guy who built the quadricopter that followed his son to the bus stop?
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[1:45] <atouk> i'm waiting for the first anti police drone drone
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[1:45] <crazyk> http://gizmodo.com/5964499/a-genius-dad-made-a-flying-quadrocopter-to-walk-his-kids-to-the-bus-stop
[1:45] <Dr_Willis_> I saw some Youtube video of a QuadCopter RC with a machine gun on it... but it seemed sort of... suspect in how real it was.
[1:46] <atouk> dont need a machine gun. just a cheap auto pilot drone to crash into the 50k dollar police drones
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[1:46] <crazyk> kid gets on the bus and gets beat up for being a geek
[1:46] <crazyk> :-(
[1:46] <Dr_Willis_> ;)
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[1:47] <Dr_Willis_> quadopter causes a car wreck from people looking at it...
[1:48] <TAFB> woot, uptime split into two lines :) the top of my table has been restored to original width :) http://tafb.yi.org:8000/
[1:49] <Dr_Willis_> Wheres the Kitty Cat Web Cam!
[1:49] <TAFB> dr_willis: I haven't decided on which webcam to use yet.
[1:49] <TAFB> I got some super old school logitech cams
[1:50] <bparker> telnet miku.acm.uiuc.edu
[1:50] <TAFB> but my buddie is selling this nice HD one: Logitech HD Webcam C510 HD
[1:50] <TAFB> not sure yet.
[1:50] <TAFB> ohhhh nice
[1:50] <TAFB> love the colour graphics
[1:50] <bparker> :p
[1:50] <TAFB> does it ever stop?
[1:50] <bparker> no idea
[1:50] <bparker> I just found it
[1:50] <TAFB> rofl
[1:51] <TAFB> works sweet
[1:51] <bparker> I googled "arch xfce4-terminal tab color" and it was one of the results.
[1:51] <bparker> trying to figure out how to change the active tab's color, because it looks almost exactly the same as the other (inactive) tabs
[1:51] * MichaelC is now known as MichaelC|Sleep
[1:52] <bparker> I found a fix for ubuntu but it uses a file that doesn't exist on my system
[1:52] <bparker> so I dunno
[1:52] <Dr_Willis_> what file?
[1:52] <bparker> terminal.rc in some gtk theme directory
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[1:53] <Dr_Willis_> could be a gtk3 vs gtk2 differance also
[1:53] <crazyk> TAFB: I purchased http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Webcam-Widescreen-Calling-Recording/dp/B007I5AL2W and had trouble using it with "Motion"
[1:53] <Dr_Willis_> but im not sure what xfce uses
[1:54] <crazyk> would segfault after awhile... never did figure it out, I've heard other cams work well though. This logitech @ 720p didn't though
[1:54] <Dr_Willis_> Hmm.. If i could get detailed prints of one of those Al. Pi Cases.... I have access to CNC mills at work. ;)
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[1:54] <TAFB> crazyk: wow, thanks for the info
[1:54] <Dr_Willis_> but for the time it would take me to make it.. i could just buy 3 ;)
[1:55] <TAFB> crazyk: I'm possibly thinking about using my digital SLR in timed shoot mode using an eyeFi sd card to upload the images to the Pi and then stream em that way :)
[1:55] <crazyk> that sounds cool
[1:56] <TAFB> would be the best quality PiCam on earth, but dunno if I really want my monster SLR camera in the middle of my bedroom floor pointing at the Pi all day
[1:57] <Dr_Willis_> Point it at a fish tank. :)
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[1:57] <TAFB> my fish never live long
[1:57] <Dr_Willis_> Wife was in some silly chat room.. they kept wanting to see her cam... so she put on an 'adult' video and pointed the cam at her tv.. ;)
[1:58] <Dr_Willis_> I need a cam to zoom in on her fish so she can see them.. well they are Triops. :) not fish
[1:58] <Dr_Willis_> they are so tiny she cant see them
[1:58] <Dr_Willis_> Im not sure ive seen a Webcam with a Macro lens? is that the right term>
[1:59] <TAFB> yep, but 18 megapixel webcam?
[1:59] <TAFB> :)
[1:59] <Dr_Willis_> was going to get her one of those network cams for the front door also. then she will never need to leave the house.
[2:00] <Dr_Willis_> well i will bbl. rebooting
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[2:02] <SpeedEvil> dr_willis: mowt cheap webcams with no auto focus will go down to 5cm or so.
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[2:02] <TAFB> dr_willis: is offline atm
[2:05] <GriffenJBS> grr... waf isn't picking up the settings from pkg-config
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[2:09] <SpeedEvil> I know, I was intending to paste when he came back online
[2:14] <TAFB> lol, ctrl-c
[2:15] <SpeedEvil> I then realised copy paste doesn't work in this client
[2:15] <TAFB> rofl
[2:15] <TAFB> you need mIRC
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[2:16] <SpeedEvil> quasseldroid works mostly OK
[2:16] <Coburn> TAFB: No, KVIRC
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[2:34] <derrida> TAFB: the camera on the nokia 808 is 41MP
[2:35] <TAFB> I doubt it's actually 41mp, probably just interpolates it up to 41mp
[2:36] <derrida> maximum output resolution is 38mp
[2:37] <SpeedEvil> one of the reasons I wish the CSI input was open source
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[2:39] <TAFB> http://press.nokia.com/wp-content/uploads/mediaplugin/photo/streetview-in-rio-captured-with-nokia-808-pureview.jpg
[2:39] <TAFB> look at around their legs at full res
[2:39] <derrida> TAFB: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8083837371/review-nokia-808-pureview
[2:40] <TAFB> actual camera is about 8mp
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[2:42] <SpeedEvil> it's not
[2:42] <SpeedEvil> it's lots better
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[2:43] <SpeedEvil> http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8083837371/review-nokia-808-pureview
[2:43] <TAFB> the camera? did you look at the full resoluion image? it's SUPER soft. You need to SHRINK it to about 8mega pixel to get acceptable detail.
[2:43] <As4xk> Hi. I'm having trouble loging in to my raspberry pi with ssh
[2:43] <derrida> TAFB: is there any information on how that image was shot?
[2:43] <TAFB> open up the full res image, at 100%, look at their legs. What, 41 megapixels of lego the image was made out of? lol. It's garbage at 41 megapixels. At 8megapixels it looks flawless.
[2:44] <TAFB> derrida: one sec for article.
[2:44] <As4xk> i can login via local keyboard. But ssh gives me permission denied
[2:44] <TAFB> As4xk: are you using the wheezy image, and have enabled ssh?
[2:44] <derrida> the phone has 3/5/8 MP modes
[2:45] <As4xk> yes. I have enables ssh (even if it was enables as default)
[2:45] <TAFB> derrida: yep, in 8mp mode it probably looks good, that's why they don't recommend you capture over that, looks like garbage
[2:45] <TAFB> http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_808_pureview_video_and_camera_samples-news-3905.php
[2:45] <As4xk> since i can type password three times before permission denies, i'm guessing it's a config problem somewhere
[2:47] <derrida> dpreview is a reputable site, their review seems pretty good
[2:48] <TAFB> yep, great camera if you expect around 8mega pixel images from it, or 40 megapixel images through a bottle of vasoline
[2:48] <derrida> 1) noise is not a direct correlation to megapixel count
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[2:48] <TAFB> it's lack of detail.
[2:49] <derrida> you're pointing out noise
[2:49] <TAFB> it look as if they took an 8 megapixel image and resized it in photoshop to 40 megapixels.
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[2:49] <derrida> no, it doesn't...
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[2:49] <TAFB> let me take one of my 18mb images from my slr and blow it up to 40mp and we'll see who's image has better detail, theirs or mine ;)
[2:49] <derrida> and that's not what they're doing
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[2:50] <GriffenJBS> derrida: oversampling in hardware gives the same effect
[2:50] <SpeedEvil> http://1.static.img-dpreview.com/files/articles/8083837371/250_4x3/8MP_20120707_0010-001.jpg?v=1883
[2:51] <SpeedEvil> for example - is not a hideously bad full crop
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[2:51] <TAFB> SpeedEvil: is that a crop of 8mp image? if it is, that's pretty soft! :(
[2:51] <SpeedEvil> oops
[2:51] <SpeedEvil> nv,
[2:51] <TAFB> lol
[2:51] <TAFB> that's horrible for 8mp, very :)
[2:52] <TAFB> i have the perfect image from my 18mp slr to compare with, i just gotta find it.
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[2:53] <SpeedEvil> well...
[2:53] <SpeedEvil> it's fundamentally a very good phone camera
[2:53] <derrida> and in a cell phone
[2:53] <SpeedEvil> it's not in contest with a DSLR
[2:53] <derrida> this is not an slr
[2:53] <SpeedEvil> it does reasonably we
[2:54] <SpeedEvil> well in its intended role as a replacement for optical zoom, to produce usable pictures
[2:54] <TAFB> i'm just saying, no way it's 40mp. it's like maybe 10mp oversampled :)
[2:54] <SpeedEvil> they are real pixels
[2:55] <TAFB> if it's blurry, the pixels are so tight they bleed into eachother, I don't really call em real
[2:55] <SpeedEvil> the issue is a physical limit due to diffraction, the pixels are not fully seperable
[2:55] <TAFB> yep
[2:55] <TAFB> lol
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[2:55] <SpeedEvil> however, that is somewhat made moot by Bayer
[2:56] <SpeedEvil> I'd love the sensor on a pi, anyway
[2:56] <TAFB> cpu would like 5 mins to load the full image :)
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[2:58] <derrida> TAFB: my real point was just that there are high MP sensors for small devices
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[2:58] <TAFB> derrida: for sure. One of my customers has a production line camera that's absolutely insane megapixels, and at full res, the image is flawless, not crappy :)
[2:59] <derrida> and?
[3:01] <plugwash> derrida, they can make small sensors with insane numbers of pixels but the inherent compromise in cameras between diffraction and focal depth makes them of limited utility
[3:02] <TAFB> plugwash: if I want to take close up photography with my Canon T2i/550d, but want a wide focal range, is that possible? What would I look for in a lens?
[3:02] <TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi_problem_made_in_china.jpg
[3:03] <plugwash> not sure i'm not too much of a camera expert I just know there are certain basic optical compromises
[3:03] <TAFB> that's as close as I can do it with the stock 18-55mm f3.5-5.6, at full zoom the depth of field is super short.
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[3:03] <TAFB> plugwash: oh, okies :)
[3:03] <derrida> plugwash: I wasn't advocating the n808, I was just pointing out that something like an "18MP Webcam" is far from impossible. Never said it would be good.
[3:04] * plugwash thinks that advertising pixels that are useless because of the optical performance of the system is coming very close to fraud
[3:05] <plugwash> sadly not quite close enough to prosecute them for it
[3:05] <TAFB> plugwash: great point. megapixels are almost a moot point. what we need is a detail rating, not gross megapixels...
[3:06] <derrida> that I agree with, the megapixel count is almost meaningless in and of itself
[3:06] <TAFB> plugwash: how'd you like my pic?
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[3:07] <TAFB> i thought it came out pretty good for using the stock lens that came with the camera :)
[3:07] <plugwash> It's far better than my attempts at taking photos of PCBs
[3:08] <TAFB> plugwash: what camera?
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[3:09] <plugwash> iirc a panasonic lumix "psuedo SLR" (the type that looks like a SLR but has a digital viewfinder) which may have been part of the problem, it's better than my attempts with compact cameras but I presume nowhere near as good as a real SLR
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[3:10] <TAFB> nice. Does it have manual focus? If so try putting it on max zoom, iso 100, then manually adjust the focus as far as it'll go, should give you nice closeups (if you keep the camera still) :)
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[3:11] <plugwash> the big problem I have is focusing, it's very hard to focus manually with the camera on a high tripod pointing downwards (and the limited quality of the digital viewfinder doesn't help) and autofocus doesn't seem to perform too well in that scenario
[3:11] <TAFB> plugwash: ahhh. when I do my close up stuff I plug my 1080p tv into the hdmi port and use it to focus.
[3:12] <plugwash> what I usually do is just put it in apeture priority mode and make the apeture as small as I can
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[3:13] <plugwash> which reduces the focusing problem but adds problems of it's own (far more vulnerable to camera shake)
[3:13] <TAFB> why the small aperature? I know on my lens, at full zoom the aperature is in it's smallest range, but I usually lock the aperature as open as possible, so I get good light and don't have to crank the iso
[3:13] <TAFB> ahhhh, yes es
[3:14] <TAFB> do you think I could focus closer at F32?
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[3:17] * plugwash muses it would be nice to have a camera stand that held the camera pointing straight down
[3:18] <SeanAM> why?
[3:18] <plugwash> so that you can put your board flat on a surface and get a shot straight on
[3:19] <SeanAM> oh
[3:19] <SeanAM> :)
[3:19] <plugwash> rather than having to angle your shot (or support the board vertically)
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[3:20] <Megaf> im back
[3:21] <Megaf> TAFB, are you from Canada?
[3:22] <Megaf> nevermind
[3:22] <Megaf> :)
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[3:23] <Megaf> so, today is the day when the world ends...
[3:24] <pippin> Megaf: I might be from the future (13:25) world still exists here
[3:24] <Dr_Willis_> what makes you think it hassent allready... ;)
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[3:24] <CelticTurnip> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ulVZkYpWPw --- proof we're already in hell
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[3:25] <ebswift> hey, is there a quickstart guide for getting a web server running that can execute python? i got it working but it only works if you specify the module name... from when i've done php on apache you don't have to specify individual php files...
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[3:28] <Dr_Willis_> Now the mass media will have to find somthing else to ramble on about.
[3:28] <Megaf> heh
[3:29] <Dr_Willis_> We couldent have landed on the moon.. but the Myans have the insight on the world ending. ;)
[3:30] <CelticTurnip> so where exactly did the mayans say the world was ending? outside of a bunch of movies and conspiracy websites? :P
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[3:31] <Dr_Willis_> their calander ended..... perhaps the Chief funding the project decided they could add more later. ;)
[3:31] <TAFB> Megaf: Sure damn am from Canada :)
[3:31] <CelticTurnip> funny thing about calendars they always have an ending, it's the day before the start of the next 1 :P
[3:32] <Megaf> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/12/21/2012#Doomsday_theories
[3:32] <TAFB> our current weather :( http://wxug.us/vdt8
[3:32] <Dr_Willis_> let me guess.. cold and nasty? ;)
[3:33] <TAFB> yeah :(
[3:33] <TAFB> extra nasty
[3:33] <Megaf> The date of 13.0.0.0.0 4 Ajaw 3 K'ank'in is usually correlated as 21 or 23 December 2012.
[3:33] <Dr_Willis_> Im in indiana.. we are getting it also.
[3:33] <Megaf> so, we might get some more time
[3:33] <ebswift> no tips on getting python working from a web server?
[3:33] <Megaf> 36 degrees celcius here for the last week and winds up to 120 Km/h
[3:33] <Dr_Willis_> ebswift: when in doubt.. look at the arch wikis. :) or the ubuntu Lamp WIki?
[3:33] <ebswift> i've been reading for 2 days
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[3:34] <ebswift> just keywords is all i am looking for
[3:34] <ebswift> i got it working with nginx and uwsgi, but it's a crappy result
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[3:34] <Megaf> http://www.accuweather.com/en/br/porto-alegre/45561/december-weather/45561
[3:35] <Dr_Willis_> sorry - no personal experience with it.
[3:35] <ebswift> k, that's cool
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[3:35] <ebswift> i might just do the uwsgi thing, it will do what i'm chasing for now, but it's complicated to maintain from what i can see
[3:39] <TAFB> Megaf: you in Brasil?
[3:39] <Megaf> TAFB, yep
[3:40] <TAFB> some pretty girls there :) I dated a chick from brasil... one sec for pic.
[3:40] <Megaf> temporarily in Brasil
[3:40] <TAFB> bring some girls back with ya
[3:40] <TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/r6/JessicaGrafitti/omg_beautiful_1280.jpg
[3:41] <Megaf> nah
[3:41] <Megaf> I have my girl already
[3:41] <TAFB> i meant some for me ;)
[3:41] <Megaf> TAFB, your bike?
[3:42] <Megaf> TAFB, I mean, that Yamaha, on the girls picture
[3:42] <TAFB> the one I crashed: http://ecuflashking.com/r6/2011-07-17-BikeAccidentPics/large/DSCN2594.JPG
[3:42] <Megaf> heh
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[3:42] <Megaf> happens
[3:42] <TAFB> here's my current bike: http://ecuflashking.com/r1/2012-09-20-TMP_racer5_trackday/FirstTrackDay_Sept1stPics/Jamie9.jpg
[3:42] <Megaf> pretty often actually
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[3:43] <Megaf> TAFB, whats the problem with Kawasaki or Ducati?
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[3:44] <TAFB> ducati is expensive here, high maintenance too. Kawasaki cause I don't like green.
[3:44] <TAFB> I bleed blue :)
[3:44] <TAFB> my mug: http://ecuflashking.com/r1/jamie_mug.png
[3:45] <Megaf> cool
[3:45] <Megaf> but, oh well, Im not really into motorbikes,
[3:45] <TAFB> plugwash: I took a pic at F32!! OMG thanks so much :) SOOOOO much more of the objects are in focus, way way better focal range :) thanks! http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-20-test_raspberrypi_closeup.jpg
[3:45] <Megaf> I would prefer a good server (computer) and perhaps a Porsche
[3:46] <TAFB> my neighbour has a few Porsche's and he races one to
[3:46] <TAFB> (GT3RS)
[3:46] <Megaf> good one
[3:46] <TAFB> he won't let me drive it :(
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[3:49] <Megaf> =/
[3:49] <Megaf> TAFB, its late here, 00:49, good night
[3:49] <TAFB> nite nite
[3:49] <TAFB> glad you survived the end of the world
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[3:50] <Megaf> me too. :P
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[3:51] <CelticTurnip> it's not for another 8 hours and change officially
[3:51] <CelticTurnip> so keep your bug out bags packed ;)
[3:52] <TAFB> i'm ready, got my flashlights all charged up :) http://ecuflashking.com/FlashlightStuff/2012-10-29-HD2010_flashlight.jpg
[3:52] <ebswift> what timezone are the Mayan's in?
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[3:55] <TAFB> if I run this command: sudo dd if=/dev/sda2 bs=512k count=1000|gzip -9 > 2012-12-20-backup.img.gz
[3:55] <TAFB> i get permission denied writing file
[3:55] <pksato> 6:35 min to end.
[3:55] <TAFB> but I've verified I have write permissions to the current folder I'm in?
[3:57] <home> TAFB: I need some cheap RC car XD
[3:57] <pksato> dd run as root, and gzip as user.
[3:57] <TAFB> pksato: how do I fix that?
[3:57] <TAFB> home: cheap and "good" don't go together with RC
[3:58] <pksato> try sudo -- dd if=/dev/sda2 bs=512k |gzip -9 > 2012-12-20-backup.img.gz
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[3:58] <home> TAFB: :/
[3:59] <TAFB> -bash: 2012-12-20-backup.img.gz: Permission denied
[3:59] <TAFB> if I go "sudo nano test.txt" it works, I can write in and safe the file, works fine
[4:03] <TAFB> what's the password for "su"?
[4:04] <pksato> root dont have passwd.
[4:04] <pksato> create one with sudo passwd
[4:04] <jackmackg> sudo passwd
[4:05] <TAFB> worked
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[4:05] <TAFB> and my command worked when I ran it under su
[4:05] <TAFB> :)
[4:05] <TAFB> does dd nor gzip give you any status report?
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[4:07] <MortifiedPenguin> :O http://blog.parts-people.com/2012/12/20/mobile-raspberry-pi-computer-build-your-own-portable-rpi-to-go/
[4:08] <TAFB> should used half high sd card adapter
[4:08] <TAFB> and shortened the case by that much
[4:09] <bjp> just needs a touchscreen
[4:10] <bjp> the arch installation instructions don't mention the user account
[4:11] <MortifiedPenguin> TAFB, Link?
[4:11] <MortifiedPenguin> Cant seem to find it
[4:11] <TAFB> https://www.adafruit.com/products/966
[4:12] <TAFB> and just FYI, you can cut 95% of all SD cards in half, they are only half full
[4:12] <bjp> those out of stock tho
[4:12] <TAFB> i've seen em a tons of places
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[4:14] <TAFB> http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/MicroSD-to-short-SD-RS-MMC-adapter-For-Everdrive-64-Raspberry-Pi-etc-/290832454079?pt=AU_Electronics_Memory_Cards&hash=item43b6f711bf
[4:14] <MortifiedPenguin> Heh
[4:14] <MortifiedPenguin> Hold it up to a light forst to see :P
[4:14] <MortifiedPenguin> *first
[4:14] <TAFB> for sure ;) a bright light :)
[4:14] <TAFB> i happen to have just a light one sec I'll check mine
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[4:15] <TAFB> even my brightest light will not shine through the black cashing
[4:15] <TAFB> casing
[4:15] <TAFB> will have to xray
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[4:16] <MortifiedPenguin> Yeah mine is definitely full size
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[4:17] <MortifiedPenguin> I wonder how far I can cut a Micro SD to full SD adpater
[4:17] <MortifiedPenguin> *adapter
[4:17] <TAFB> there are some that give you a usb port plus SD as well, and people cut off the USB section and it works fine to SD, super super short.
[4:18] <TAFB> http://www.winter-con.net/catalog/item/6674133/6569846.htm
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[4:18] <TAFB> that, and just cut off the usb plug
[4:18] <MortifiedPenguin> Cut one of those in half http://www.build-your-own-computer.net/image-files/micro-sd-memory-01.gif
[4:18] <MortifiedPenguin> Or close to itr
[4:18] <MortifiedPenguin> *it
[4:19] <TAFB> won't work
[4:19] <MortifiedPenguin> Hmm?
[4:19] <MortifiedPenguin> The pins are a little but up in there
[4:19] <MortifiedPenguin> *but up
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[4:20] <MortifiedPenguin> http://www.camerahacker.com/Digital/Inside_microSD_Adapter.jpg
[4:20] <MortifiedPenguin> Ok so maybe a third cut off
[4:20] <TAFB> but the micro SD will still stick out to the full length, no matter how much you cut.
[4:21] <TAFB> it's gotta side sideways to save ANy speace.
[4:21] <MortifiedPenguin> But it would still be less :P
[4:21] <TAFB> barely
[4:21] <TAFB> .0003" less
[4:21] <MortifiedPenguin> ooooh
[4:22] <MortifiedPenguin> I have a little micro sd card holder thingy like http://i01.i.aliimg.com/photo/v1/609779899/micro_sd_card_holder.jpg
[4:22] <ebswift> yay, got the DS18B20 hooked up to the rpi and got the web server serving requests to read temperature automatically when it boots up now... now to build the android app with sensor alarms and to rig it up to a stepper for valve control...
[4:22] <MortifiedPenguin> Need to refine my soldering skills XD
[4:23] <TAFB> ebswift: congrats!
[4:23] <ebswift> thanks :)
[4:23] <ebswift> currently got a nice little JSON result of {"temperature":27.63}
[4:23] <TAFB> figured out how to get status from dd! yay
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[4:25] <TAFB> 142082048 bytes (142 MB) copied, 85.0892 s, 1.7 MB/s
[4:25] <TAFB> and it's still goin
[4:25] <ebswift> sweet
[4:25] <TAFB> woot
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[4:26] <bjp> anyone know what the account user/pw is for the arch image?
[4:26] <MortifiedPenguin> TAFB, Yeah "pkill -USR1 dd" :P
[4:26] <TAFB> MortifiedPenguin: yeppers :)
[4:27] <MortifiedPenguin> Brb linux
[4:27] <MortifiedPenguin> Also I cant do this anymore
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[4:28] <ParkerR_> That nick was just too long
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[4:41] <ParkerR_> dd: program of the year. All years.
[4:41] <TAFB> it's ticking away now. sucks you have to force it to give you output/status
[4:42] <home> my soldering skills suck
[4:42] <home> mainly cuz I got no paste and enough solder
[4:42] <TAFB> gzip's gettin really good compress, 700mb in, 140mb out
[4:42] <home> and did I mention I got no time :D ?!
[4:42] <Coburn> lol
[4:42] <Coburn> use xz
[4:42] <Coburn> even better compression
[4:42] <home> TAFB: I don't even gzip :D
[4:42] <home> or xz
[4:42] <TAFB> xz?
[4:42] <Coburn> XtremeZip
[4:42] <home> mainly because I don't know the commands on how to
[4:42] <TAFB> I have to gzip, I got a 120gb ssd!
[4:42] <ParkerR_> TAFB, dd directly to an img
[4:42] <ParkerR_> No compression :D
[4:43] <TAFB> when this is done I'll give you the fance command I used
[4:43] <home> compression helps
[4:43] <home> if ytou are low on space
[4:43] <Coburn> https://duckduckgo.com/xz&v=n
[4:43] <home> otherwise it doesnt matter
[4:43] <ParkerR_> When you have the space compression is meh XD
[4:43] <Coburn> [13:23:47] <+TAFB> figured out how to get status from dd! yay
[4:43] <Coburn> TAFB: Do this
[4:43] <Coburn> well
[4:44] <Coburn> do pkill -USR1 dd in a watch
[4:44] <Coburn> I set it up so it does that every 3s
[4:44] <Coburn> do man watch and it'll do the trick
[4:44] <ParkerR_> Yep
[4:44] <ParkerR_> watch sudo pkill -USR1 dd
[4:44] <ParkerR_> I go with the default 2
[4:44] <TAFB> home, I had to run this under su, sudo didn't do the trick, but works sweet: sudo -- dd if=/dev/sda2 bs=512k |gzip -9 > 2012-12-20-backup.img.gz
[4:45] <home> yeah
[4:45] <home> I shall try that later
[4:45] <home> even though I got my images backed up
[4:46] <ParkerR_> Backuping up my current SD card to flash it to a micro "7045955584 bytes (7.0 GB) copied, 517.529 s, 13.6 MB/s"
[4:46] <ParkerR_> Almost there
[4:46] <TAFB> %CPU NI S TIME COMMAND
[4:46] <TAFB> 47.9 0 R 00:10:37 gzip -9 -v -f
[4:46] <ParkerR_> *Backing up
[4:48] <ParkerR_> I really need to get a SD card higher than class 4
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[4:50] <TAFB> the patriot EP cards really rip in the pi :) http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Memory-PEF32GSHC10233-Series-Class/dp/B007R9NJ6E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1356061846&sr=8-1&keywords=patriot+ep+32gb
[4:53] <ParkerR_> 27 not bad
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[4:53] <TAFB> i can get em for $25 from a local store, so you might be able to find em cheaper, but that's a good deal with free shipping
[4:54] <pksato> why joydev module is loaded?
[4:54] <ParkerR_> Crap this micro SD card is slow 927413248 bytes (927 MB) copied, 399.552 s, 2.3 MB/s
[4:54] <TAFB> wow :)
[4:55] <ParkerR_> Previous entry was "469668864 bytes (470 MB) copied, 142.348 s, 3.3 MB/s"
[4:56] <ParkerR_> :/ 2.2
[4:57] <GriffenJBS> anyone have experience with waf?
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[5:05] <ParkerR_> TAFB, It gets worse "2152555008 bytes (2.2 GB) copied, 1059.83 s, 2.0 MB/s"
[5:06] <TAFB> I've seen way worse ;)
[5:07] <ShiftPlusOne> Merry apocalypse, to the people in the right timezones.
[5:08] <ebswift> already halfway into day one of the apocalypse here... zombie hoards are growing but the boards on the windows are holding
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[5:08] <Coburn> I don't have a shotgun
[5:09] <ShiftPlusOne> heh
[5:09] <Coburn> But, if you see a Coburn running for his life while zombies are chasing after him, please lend him one
[5:09] <Coburn> perferably a SMG
[5:10] <ebswift> gun control here so none of us are armed :/
[5:11] <ShiftPlusOne> I have a buttern knife somewhere, I thinkl.
[5:11] <ShiftPlusOne> hmm... buttern? thinkl? wth, keyboard?
[5:12] <SpeedEvil> a buttern knife. for buttern things.
[5:12] <ackthet> ShiftPlusOne: the solstice occures at the same time for everybody <_<
[5:12] <ackthet> in 7 hrs
[5:12] <TAFB> Coburn: I call it, the master blaster: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/TacticalRem870longbarrel/large/PICT0414.JPG
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[5:13] <TAFB> it normally lives with a shorter barrel (12.5"): http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/Remington870-12.5inBarrel/large/PICT0784.JPG
[5:13] <ShiftPlusOne> Ah ok, sorry, my doomsday knowledge is not up to scratch.
[5:13] <Coburn> YEAH BABY
[5:13] <Coburn> ship me one of those
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[5:13] <Coburn> I'll join you in the zombie fight
[5:13] <TAFB> lol.
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[5:14] <Coburn> are those real or fake?
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[5:14] <ackthet> ShiftPlusOne: or astronomy knowledge
[5:14] <Coburn> > plastic looks
[5:14] <TAFB> for the zombies, you need the M16/AR16 with 100 round double drum (bottom of pic): http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/gunsalltogethergood/large/PICT1136.JPG
[5:14] <ackthet> solstice is an astronomical event
[5:14] <TAFB> and if we get surrounded, grenade launcher time: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/videos/9thEESA/mov00a.jpg
[5:14] <TAFB> Coburn: lol, they are all real! haha
[5:14] <ShiftPlusOne> ackthet, astronomy is fine, I didn't know the doomsday was meant to happen at the solstice.
[5:14] <ackthet> TAFB: please tell me you dont own these
[5:14] <Coburn> Don't tell me TAFB, you just got these out of your gun safe
[5:15] <TAFB> they are in the gun safe
[5:15] <TAFB> lol
[5:15] <Coburn> Man...
[5:15] <ackthet> TAFB: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/TacticalRem870longbarrel/large/PICT0414.JPG is the most retarded looking gun i have ever seen
[5:15] <TAFB> 45 minutes to midnight, should I be getting them out?
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[5:15] <Coburn> Feels like real life Call of Duty
[5:15] <TAFB> ackthet: thanks :) holds 12 rounds.
[5:15] <Coburn> Just need the perks and the Jugganog and we're all good
[5:15] <Coburn> 6 Hits before we go down!
[5:16] <ackthet> TAFB: your better off with something 1/2 as long and a side saddle
[5:16] <SpeedEvil> http://idle.slashdot.org/story/12/12/21/0253237/your-hands-were-made-for-punching-according-to-new-study
[5:17] <ShiftPlusOne> false alarm, it looks like we still have 7 hours and 1 minute before the apocalypse =(
[5:17] <TAFB> ackthet: this is how it's normally set up, 12.5" barrel: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/Remington870-12.5inBarrel/large/PICT0859.JPG
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[5:17] <Coburn> Hmm...
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[5:18] <Coburn> My guns in my parent's gun safe are
[5:18] <Coburn> 22
[5:18] <Coburn> Shotty
[5:18] <TAFB> .22 you mean?
[5:18] <Coburn> air rifle
[5:18] <ackthet> just exactly where you need them
[5:18] <Coburn> and that's it
[5:18] <ackthet> oh wait
[5:18] <Coburn> lots of ammo
[5:18] * ackthet has 2 guns on him right nao
[5:18] <SpeedEvil> TAFB: naah, 22"
[5:18] <Coburn> lol
[5:18] <SpeedEvil> old battleship guns. big closet.
[5:18] <Coburn> ackthet: mr. black op?
[5:19] <ackthet> Coburn: no
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[5:19] <TAFB> ackthet: no carry laws here. only allowed to have a gun in your car if you're driving to the gun range, and it has to be trigger locked, in a locked case, etc.
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[5:19] <ackthet> sucks
[5:19] <TAFB> if I was going to carry, this would be it. Para Ord Tac Four LDA. 10 rounds of juicy .45ACP hollow point :) http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/tacfour/large/P1010030.JPG
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[5:20] <ackthet> i'd take a glock 20
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[5:20] <ackthet> 15+1 10mm
[5:20] <Coburn> I'd carry a pistol in a zombie thing
[5:20] <TAFB> i have a glock 17c :)
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[5:20] <Coburn> Got a 5-7?
[5:20] <ackthet> but 10mm is better than 9mm
[5:20] <Coburn> Five-seven?
[5:20] <Coburn> If they even exist
[5:20] <TAFB> ackthet: not in full auto, 9mm is hard enuff.
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[5:20] <pksato> make RPi a automatic zumbie head shooter. :)
[5:20] <ackthet> wat
[5:20] <TAFB> five-seven, yep, they do
[5:20] <ackthet> full auto is worthless
[5:20] <Coburn> pksato: WINNAR
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[5:21] <ackthet> observe the energies of 10mm vs 9mm
[5:21] <TAFB> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FN_Five-seven
[5:21] <ackthet> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9%C3%9719mm_Parabellum vs http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10mm_Auto
[5:21] <Coburn> TAFB: Next project: Turret controlled by R-Pi
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[5:21] <atouk> not that argument again...
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[5:21] <Coburn> btw, TAFB, I posted your gun safe contents in another network IRC channel and they are going apesh*t over it
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[5:21] <TAFB> i know about the five seven because it used the same ammo as my PS90 :)
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[5:22] <TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/10.3%20PS90%20PICS/large/PICT1833.JPG
[5:22] <Coburn> [14:17:39] <+Coburn> Not my gun safe, but sh*t wow [14:18:10] <+triple> who has a bayonette in this day in age?
[5:22] <TAFB> rofl
[5:22] <TAFB> tell him it's for the zombies
[5:22] <ackthet> TAFB: are you rich as?
[5:22] <TAFB> when you run out of ammo
[5:22] <Coburn> Why are they all plastic?
[5:22] <TAFB> rofl
[5:22] <TAFB> i like my plastic guns
[5:22] <Coburn> I thought they would be metal? Prototype?
[5:22] <TAFB> what can I say
[5:22] <ackthet> Coburn: where have you been?
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[5:23] <ackthet> they've been putting polymer on guns since the 80s
[5:23] <Coburn> well uh
[5:23] <TAFB> plastic: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/FS2000/large/PICT1898.JPG
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[5:23] <TAFB> plastic: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/Glock17c/large/PICT1227.JPG
[5:23] <Coburn> do they have realistic smoke and flashing lights?
[5:23] <ackthet> they shoot real bullets
[5:23] <ackthet> <_<
[5:23] <ackthet> not sure if serious or if troll
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[5:24] <TAFB> plastic: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/cx4/large/P1010003.JPG
[5:24] * rikkib has a bayonette
[5:24] <TAFB> plastic: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/hksl8/P1010006.JPG
[5:24] <atouk> the beretta is nice because is uses the same magazines as the pistols.
[5:25] <TAFB> plastic: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/sw99/large/P1010003.JPG
[5:25] <ackthet> TAFB: you must be rich
[5:25] <TAFB> atouk: yep, and that lets us get around a couple of laws here.
[5:25] <ackthet> its the only explanation
[5:25] <TAFB> man that's a lot of plastic guns i've owned :)
[5:25] <TAFB> I don't own them all at one time
[5:25] <TAFB> i buy a gun, get tired of it, sell it for new one, etc.
[5:25] <ackthet> :(
[5:26] <atouk> like my old school 92fs
[5:26] <rikkib> http://www.bencom.co.nz/cam/
[5:26] <atouk> hate the way glocks feel
[5:26] <TAFB> ps90 and fs2000 together: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/PS90_FS2000_edited.jpg
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[5:26] <jackmackg> plastic http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/ea/Maverickrev6.jpg/200px-Maverickrev6.jpg
[5:26] <ackthet> TAFB: is that you?
[5:26] <ackthet> lol
[5:26] <rikkib> Coburn,
[5:26] <TAFB> I like the way this feels, very heavy: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/sw945/huge%20-%20Smith%20and%20Wesson%20945%20Performance%20Center%20Limited%20Edition%202.jpg
[5:26] <TAFB> ackthet: no, it's my under age range friend :) lol
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[5:27] <ackthet> wat lol
[5:27] <TAFB> this is fun to shoot too: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/sw500/large/P1010077.JPG
[5:27] <TAFB> revolver that can shoot shotgun shells ;)
[5:27] <TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/sw500/large/P1010003.JPG
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[5:27] <atouk> sw 500? sure if you like spending 2 dollars a shot
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[5:27] <TAFB> k. that's it for the plastic guns.
[5:27] <Coburn> rikkib: you wanted me?
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[5:28] <TAFB> yeah, sw500
[5:28] * rikkib has a bayonette
[5:28] <rikkib> http://www.bencom.co.nz/cam/
[5:28] <Coburn> SIG 500 ?
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[5:28] <Coburn> I see that
[5:28] <Coburn> Pretty good
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[5:28] <rikkib> Old and rusty ww2
[5:28] <pksato> rikkib: cam to show end of world?
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[5:28] <TAFB> I'm going to sell off almost everything and try and get this bad boy: http://modelindo.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/no-4-as50-bristish.jpg
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[5:29] <rikkib> You will see it here first :)
[5:29] <Coburn> Wow
[5:29] <jackmackg> do any of them work with the pi?
[5:29] <Coburn> Need a R-Pi controlled turret
[5:29] <atouk> hmmm pi ballistic calculator/scope
[5:30] <Coburn> Or Pi-Sniper
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[5:30] <rikkib> Dad used to have the 303 Jungle Carbine that went with it.
[5:30] <atouk> or maybe a pi targeting and scoring system for 22 matches
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[5:30] <rikkib> Pig shooter and pig sticker...
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[5:31] <Coburn> is that volt meter turned on?
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[5:33] <TAFB> what volt meter?
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[5:33] <Coburn> the one on that camera stream
[5:33] <Coburn> the one showing the banonet
[5:34] <rikkib> Back on
[5:34] <TAFB> this one? http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/gunsalltogethergood/large/PICT1136.JPG
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[5:34] <rikkib> I turned the cam off... Now back on and the meter shows mA drawn by the cam
[5:34] <rikkib> around 130.something
[5:35] <Coburn> Ah nice. What software?
[5:35] <rikkib> motion
[5:35] <atouk> large cap mag. that's a nono here in jersey
[5:35] <rikkib> 320.240
[5:35] <rikkib> x
[5:35] <rikkib> 2 x on the web page
[5:35] <Coburn> Nice. Might as well use a R-Pi for security system
[5:36] <rikkib> bencom.co.nz:8081 for raw
[5:36] <Coburn> What's the CPU usage on that?
[5:36] <TAFB> atouk: can't have em here either, but if you modify them to only 5 rounds it's ok. all the mags you see are 5 mags
[5:36] <atouk> SKS is a perfect example of how screwed up gun laws are. detachable bayonettes are illegal here, but since the bayo on the SKS is folding, that's OK
[5:36] <rikkib> top - 17:36:22 up 1 day, 9 min, 2 users, load average: 0.09, 0.10, 0.22
[5:36] <rikkib> Tasks: 67 total, 1 running, 66 sleeping, 0 stopped, 0 zombie
[5:36] <rikkib> %Cpu(s): 7.3 us, 1.6 sy, 0.0 ni, 88.4 id, 2.4 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.2 si, 0.0 st
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[5:36] <Coburn> And that's only with one camera, right?
[5:37] <TAFB> atouk: ROFL! lol. that's a funny law
[5:37] <rikkib> Yep
[5:37] <Coburn> Nice.
[5:37] <Coburn> Might be useful...
[5:37] <atouk> we have the 3 of five system for "assault weapon" bannage
[5:37] <rikkib> Remember that I use a proxy instance of motion as well as on my gateway
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[5:38] <atouk> and adjustible stocks are considerd the same as folding stocks, so we have to pin ours in one position
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[5:40] <TAFB> we only have to pin ours if the gun will be under 26" in overall length when folded.
[5:40] <TAFB> i.e. this gun is 25.5" when folded, so has to be pinned: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/2ndkrinkerwithscope/large/2ndkrinkerscope2large.jpg
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[5:47] <ebswift> yeah reddit... http://i.imgur.com/Chm5B.jpg
[5:48] <ackthet> TAFB: what brand is that AR
[5:48] <TAFB> Armalite
[5:48] <ackthet> did you do a custom job on thet barrel?
[5:48] <ackthet> or have it done
[5:48] <TAFB> nope, comes from the factory like that, has a special name.... one sec.
[5:49] <ackthet> why is it not totally finished
[5:49] <TAFB> what do you mean?
[5:49] <ackthet> its silvery in the pic
[5:50] <TAFB> that's a crush washer for the muzzle brake
[5:50] <TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/ar15/gunsnmagslarge.jpg
[5:51] <ackthet> ahh
[5:51] * ackthet has a colt
[5:51] <ackthet> it is not like this
[5:52] <TAFB> yeah, it was a very rare model from Armalight, with the thick short barrel.
[5:52] <TAFB> 10.3" barrel
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[5:53] <ackthet> you should really just get a quad rail <_<
[5:53] <ackthet> are you allowed?
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[5:54] <TAFB> yep :)
[5:56] <ackthet> you should get one <_<
[5:57] <atouk> did someone say AR? www.atouk.com/images/ar.jpg
[5:58] <TAFB> that's a lot of AR's. where's your super shorty?
[5:58] <atouk> actually where is it. should be a desert one there.
[5:58] <atouk> might be in a bag inone of the locers
[5:59] <TAFB> as long as you got a super shorty, you're OK by me ;)
[5:59] <ackthet> atouk: you murdering psycopath!
[5:59] <ackthet> YOU OWN AN AR
[5:59] <TAFB> 12162957312 bytes (12 GB) copied, 5763.64 s, 2.1 MB/s
[5:59] <ackthet> thus, killer
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[6:00] <atouk> and a M1, K98, Mosin, SKS, Rem 700, half a dozen mossberg 22s, ...
[6:01] <TAFB> love the "thump thump thump" of the SKS, nothin like it :)
[6:01] <atouk> love my old mossbergs
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[6:01] <ackthet> atouk: are you ni the US?
[6:01] <atouk> yup
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[6:02] <atouk> all weapons shown are legal
[6:03] <ackthet> atouk: ofc
[6:03] <TAFB> atouk: I had a member at the range I belonged to call the cops once, cause he thought my AR15 was illegal! lol
[6:03] <ackthet> i tried to buy 223 today
[6:03] <ackthet> woops
[6:03] <ackthet> mistake
[6:03] <TAFB> ackthet: call it 5.56 instead ;)
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[6:03] <ackthet> no
[6:03] <ackthet> i wanted 223
[6:03] <ackthet> not 556
[6:03] <ackthet> there is a difference <_<
[6:03] <TAFB> :)
[6:03] <TAFB> lol
[6:04] <ackthet> i have a bunch of 556 but its for a rainy day
[6:04] <ackthet> and dont want to shoot it
[6:04] <ackthet> i plink with 223 though
[6:04] <ackthet> wont be plinking for awhile though :(
[6:04] <atouk> pling with 22s
[6:04] <TAFB> I have some 7.62x39 that's for a rainy day :)
[6:04] <ackthet> atouk: i mean, i want to use my ar <_<
[6:04] <atouk> theres three or four AKs around
[6:05] <atouk> 47 and 74
[6:05] <TAFB> not allowed no ak's here.
[6:05] <ackthet> wat
[6:05] <ackthet> why
[6:05] <TAFB> there was this evil lady
[6:05] <atouk> beacuse they're scary looking
[6:06] <ackthet> no more so than the an AR
[6:06] <TAFB> her name was Wendy Cukier
[6:06] <TAFB> she had a book called "guns and ammo"
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[6:06] <TAFB> she sat down with our government and went though it.
[6:06] <TAFB> any gun she really didn't like, she put an X through it.
[6:06] <TAFB> ak47, barrett .50, uzi, mac10/11, etc. etc. etc.
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[6:07] <ackthet> atouk: i was joking about the psycopath busness fyi
[6:07] <TAFB> any gun she just slightly didn't like, she drew a circle around.
[6:07] <TAFB> ar15
[6:07] <TAFB> and any gun that was fine, got a checkmark.
[6:07] <TAFB> i.e. gay guns
[6:07] <ackthet> TAFB: i looked it up, i couldnt find a single crime committed with a legally owned .50 BMG
[6:07] <TAFB> so the ar15 is "resitrcted" here
[6:07] <atouk> i know. but imagine, all thiose gund and i never shot anyone. won't some liberals be disappointed in me
[6:07] <ackthet> i mean technically i'm a libral
[6:08] <TAFB> ackthet: I'd be hard pressed to find a crime that was commited with a legal or illegal .50 bmg :) lol.
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[6:08] <ackthet> haha
[6:08] <TAFB> my friends home made .50bmg top left: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/alltogether.jpg
[6:09] <TAFB> ahhhhhhh. I forgot one of my other plastic guns! now prohibited in Canada: walther g22: http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/WaltherG22m203/large/PICT1578.JPG
[6:10] <atouk> threaded barrel, that's a nono here. someone might put a "silencer" on it and kill people quietly
[6:10] <ackthet> its a .22
[6:10] <ackthet> ohh
[6:10] <TAFB> yep
[6:10] <TAFB> .22
[6:10] <TAFB> so evil
[6:10] <ackthet> a silenced 22 rifle
[6:10] <TAFB> :)
[6:10] <TAFB> no issues with threaded barrels here, not allowed any silencers though
[6:11] <ReggieUK> guys, we don't usually pull people on 'off-topic'
[6:11] <ReggieUK> but.....
[6:11] <ackthet> haha
[6:11] <TAFB> lol
[6:11] <TAFB> okok
[6:11] <TAFB> rofl
[6:11] <ReggieUK> :)
[6:11] <TAFB> :)
[6:11] <atouk> well, it wa quiet in here, reggie
[6:12] <TAFB> we just gotta talk more about that Pi controlled automatic turret machine gun...
[6:12] <ReggieUK> maybe the world ended?
[6:12] <ReggieUK> that Pi controlled automatic turret machine airsoft gun...
[6:12] <atouk> hope so. then there's a whole bunch of bills i don't have to pay
[6:12] <TAFB> lol
[6:13] <TAFB> my Pi is workin hard: 15981871104 bytes (16 GB) copied, 6546.86 s, 2.4 MB/s
[6:13] <alpha080> sell my pi for the ticket. ..
[6:14] <atouk> sell your pi? you can have my pi when you can rip it from my cold dead hands...
[6:14] <TAFB> anyone giving a Pi to someone for christmas?
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[6:14] <ackthet> NPiA
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[6:17] <Coburn> I wonder how well a R-Pi would go doing a DVD ripping job?
[6:17] <ackthet> 9 hours later
[6:17] <atouk> probobly not good at all
[6:18] <atouk> brb gotta put the arsenal away
[6:18] <Coburn> I mean
[6:18] <Coburn> Not ripping to AVI
[6:19] <Coburn> but you know, bypassing the copy protection
[6:19] <Coburn> and dumping the VOBs
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[6:19] <TAFB> Coburn: I could test it for ya, just drop my optical drive back in my drive case: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-17-RaspberryPi_with_external_drive.jpg
[6:20] <TAFB> the fastest it could possibly do it would be 3 hours, just i/o performance.
[6:20] <TAFB> couldn't play em either, without buying codec :( lol
[6:25] <ParkerR_> Transcoding a DVD on the Pi would be meh
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[6:25] <ParkerR_> And a straight rip of the vob files would need the mpeg2 codec like TAFB said
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[6:26] <TAFB> you could probably just make like an image, leave em in vob, no codec?
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[6:27] <atouk> and if you stored that image on something flat and circular, you could play it back later in a standard player
[6:27] <Coburn> yeah, that's what dvdfab is done
[6:27] <Coburn> basically, decrypt the dvd, then I load it into handbrake
[6:27] <Coburn> transcode ??? profit
[6:27] <atouk> oooh the dvd police will get you for that
[6:27] <ParkerR_> But I'm saying doing that on the Pi would take forver
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[6:33] <Coburn> ParkerR_: possibly due to the taxing of USB I/O
[6:33] <ParkerR_> Yeah and just CPU power
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[6:33] <Coburn> Liquid Nitrogen it and overclock
[6:34] <ParkerR_> Heh
[6:34] <TAFB> i see some people are running their Pi over 1ghz :)
[6:35] <ParkerR_> Stupid Google. I cannot seem to find the original DVD decryption key. Just a bunch if HD-DVD results
[6:35] <ParkerR_> *of
[6:39] <atouk> http://www.atouk.com/wordpress/?p=28
[6:40] <TAFB> anyone good in php here?
[6:40] <ebswift> everyone is good at php at birth, until you try to do something actually useful and professional...
[6:40] <TAFB> lol
[6:41] <TAFB> i'm debugging the code for Pancake
[6:41] <TAFB> https://github.com/pp3345/Pancake/blob/master/sys/syscore.php
[6:41] <ParkerR_> atouk, Hmm that's listed as the HD-DVD key. Is it regular DVD also? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AACS_encryption_key_controversy
[6:41] <TAFB> I e-mailed them for support, they haven't got back to me, and I gotta get my customers sites up and running asap
[6:41] <atouk> not sure. never had a us for it. just got amused about the reaction from it being released
[6:42] <ParkerR_> atouk, Funny thing is the MPAA "accidentally" released it in some statement
[6:43] <ebswift> for php i reverted to using visual studio and vs.php... nice combo for debugging that was while i was doing it
[6:43] <TAFB> nice
[6:43] <ParkerR_> atouk, Heh gotta love old DIgg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ae/HD_DVD_Night_Digg_Frontpage_before_rose_blog_post_screenshot.png
[6:43] <atouk> i think that was about the same time all the government papers were coming out in pdf where to view the redacted content all you had to do was select it with a mouse
[6:44] <ParkerR_> Hahahahaha
[6:44] <ParkerR_> I have to see this now
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[6:46] <atouk> there was even a webpage that used the code to make color bars and dared the mpaa to issue a takedown or sue them
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[6:46] <ParkerR_> Hahahah http://news.cnet.com/2100-1028_3-6077353.html
[6:46] <ParkerR_> Link at the end of first paragraph
[6:46] <ParkerR_> That is quite some fail
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[6:48] <atouk> people using technology that don't understand it
[6:50] <atouk> there was another case where some government bid was sent in and whoever cut and pasted the spreadsheet missed a section and underbid by 50 million. went to court and they had to preform for the bid amount
[6:51] <ParkerR_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpLvWd4jCfQ
[6:52] <ParkerR_> My Raspberry Pi + accessories
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[6:52] <SpeedEvil> http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19810845
[6:55] <atouk> It could also be that figures were inputted incorrectly.
[6:55] <atouk> is "inputted" even a word?
[6:57] <Gr33n3gg> inpat
[6:57] <Gr33n3gg> past tense of input
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[7:02] <ParkerR_> Haha
[7:03] <ParkerR_> So HDMI adpater is in transit and I still need to order a micro female USB cable
[7:03] <ParkerR_> *adapter
[7:04] <atouk> i found the countdown timer for the end of the world
[7:04] <atouk> http://billioncountdown.com/?2
[7:06] <ParkerR_> Haha
[7:07] <rymate1234> Huh?
[7:07] <rymate1234> I thought the end of the world happened at 11:11 GMT/UTC
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[7:27] <ebswift> lol my son asleep on my lap with acdc thunderstruck playing
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[7:29] <]DMackey[> ebswift, Awewsome, Kid has good taste :)
[7:29] <]DMackey[> -good +great
[7:30] <ebswift> :D off he goes to bed for sleepies
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[7:46] <ParkerR_> Well crap
[7:46] <ParkerR_> Friday, January 11, 2013 - Friday, January 25, 2013
[7:47] <ParkerR_> Estimated delivery of the HDMI adapter
[7:47] <ebswift> bad time of year to be waiting on stuff thru the mail
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[7:56] <SpeedEvil> sorta woahong I'd ordered some n4"s to flip on eBay
[7:56] <SpeedEvil> wishing
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[8:41] <Varazir> hello
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[8:43] <Varazir> is there a android dist for android?
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[9:02] <ParkerR_> Varazir, Android dist for android?
[9:04] <ParkerR_> Varazir, You mean Android port for the Raspberry Pi?
[9:04] <ParkerR_> A quick google search revelas http://reviews.cnet.co.uk/desktops/how-to-install-android-2-3-on-the-raspberry-pi-50009931/
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[9:06] <ParkerR_> *reveals
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[9:10] <kurtis_> so I've got my RP setup with Raspbian and I like it. I'd like to try xbmc on it. Is there a nice way to do that without reflashing the sd card?
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[9:14] <ParkerR_> :|
[9:15] <ParkerR_> I have yet to hear of a Raspbian install that has XBMC running.
[9:15] <ParkerR_> Most people just flash Raspbmc or OpenELEC to another SD card
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[9:20] <Varazir> ParkerR_: android on RP . saw that but its only 2.3
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[9:21] <Varazir> well i have to google some more
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[9:34] <Freshcoat> Hi Alll
[9:34] <Freshcoat> I need good suggestions to prank my parents!!! :x
[9:35] <Freshcoat> They have an alarm with radio every morning goin on for like one hour!!!! PFF
[9:35] <ParkerR_> !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[9:37] <Freshcoat> I am thinking about to hidde my 4.1 surround in there room and wake them up whit a military drill master
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[9:38] <mdim> anyone got 2.1 speakers system hooked up to RPi?
[9:38] <ParkerR_> Varazir, This has a link to Cyanogenmod 9 http://androidpi.wikia.com/wiki/Android_Pi_Wiki
[9:38] <Dyskette> mdim: I did
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[9:41] <Freshcoat> mdim: 4.1 I did and works well..
[9:41] <mdim> how is it working? I guess the only power speakers consume is provided on their own, not from Rpi
[9:41] <mdim> Dyskette: ^^
[9:41] <Freshcoat> 2.1 should work good as well of course
[9:41] <Freshcoat> yes the power is provided on there own
[9:42] <Freshcoat> You know the PI is not that strong to supply power.
[9:42] <mdim> yeah, that's why I'm asking
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[9:42] <gordonDrogon> quick blog on the displays I've been playing with :) https://projects.drogon.net/4d-systems-intelligent-displays-and-the-raspberry-pi/
[9:42] <Freshcoat> My mini wifi dongle was already to much so you can image how low it is hehe
[9:42] <mdim> so, the systems you have are not usb, but a regular analog audio output?
[9:42] <gordonDrogon> morning pi peeps - shortest day today!
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[9:46] <Freshcoat> mdim: yes
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[9:46] <frikinz> Hi gordon. Oh yeah equinox today.
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[9:48] <kurtis_> ParkerR_: dang, maybe I'll throw raspbmc on another sd card, give it a whirl, and see if it's worth switching
[9:48] <frikinz> er solstice rather
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[10:09] <Vazde> does omxplayer support subtitles? i tried a few videos, but they didn't appear(even though console said there was a subtitle stream enabled)
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[10:22] <linuxstb> Vazde: Yes, it should do. Run "omxplayer" without any arguments to see the subtitle-related options
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[10:34] <SeanAM> good morning room
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[10:42] <Ed_> maybe is a dumb question but
[10:42] <ParkerR_> Never a dumb question.
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[10:43] <Draylor> its irc, 99% are but that doesnt stop anyone ;)
[10:43] <Ed_> what about optical fiber on PI?
[10:44] <ParkerR_> You could maybe do a USB SPDIF card
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[10:53] <gordonDrogon> frikinz, solstice - equinox is in spring & autumn :)
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[10:57] <frikinz> no
[10:57] <frikinz> december solstice is today
[10:57] <gordonDrogon> yes
[10:57] <gordonDrogon> it's not an equinox though.
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[10:59] <frikinz> 09:48 <+frikinz> er solstice rather
[10:59] <gordonDrogon> equinox - equi - equal - equal day/night times - middle of spring & autumn...
[10:59] <gordonDrogon> missed that in the pibot noise. Hm. thought I'd turned that off..
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[11:02] <frikinz> the subsolar point is on the capricorn tropic, the closest to the sun
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[11:18] <Vazde> linuxstb: yes, i already tried with -t before asking, but can't see them
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[11:33] <mongrol> evening
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[11:53] <gordonDrogon> morning.
[11:53] <gordonDrogon> so much for having an easy day today - a friend is having issues with his servers )-:
[11:54] <atmosx> oh
[11:54] <atmosx> that's a pitty
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[12:05] <gordonDrogon> and he's 100 miles away and his servers are 350 miles away. Oh what Joy :)
[12:05] <gordonDrogon> arranging IP KVM with the datacentre now...
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[12:11] <BCMM> gordonDrogon: is that a physical device that plugs in like a KVM and has a network card, or is it a fancy word for VNC?
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[12:16] <Grievre> BCMM: I would guess the former
[12:16] <Grievre> BCMM: VNC you could set up yourself
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[12:32] <gordonDrogon> BCMM, the former - plugs into screen, keyboar & mouse and has an Ethernet socket.
[12:32] <gordonDrogon> BCMM, this one runs a fancy web server with a java client that then runs in my browser.
[12:32] <gordonDrogon> it appears to be a "Raritan Dominion" ...
[12:33] <gordonDrogon> server appears to have suffered a disk failure and needs manual fscking ...
[12:37] <nid0> <3 raritan kvms
[12:38] <nid0> just to confuse BCMM's question though, most kvms can also be accessed via VNC
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[12:39] <gordonDrogon> I recall from the last time I visited the DC that it was tiny too - like palm sized.
[12:40] <nid0> yeah, theyre typically not much different to the size of a pi in a case
[12:40] <gordonDrogon> I have serial consoles on my own servers up there and a separate cisco serial box to feed them...
[12:40] <gordonDrogon> but one of these plugged into a conventional KVM looks like an interesting solution.
[12:41] <nid0> we always just use raritan kvms with our servers, typically just have one per rack and get them plugged in as needed
[12:41] <gordonDrogon> yea. guess it depends on your/client needs.
[12:42] <gordonDrogon> I can only get remote hands in this DC during office hours though (unless I pay their call-out fees)
[12:42] <nid0> which dc?
[12:43] <gordonDrogon> you may not have heard of them - Avensys in Sheffield.
[12:43] <gordonDrogon> however I've known them for a long time now (since about '95)
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[12:44] <nid0> yer thats a new one on me :p
[12:45] <gordonDrogon> I think their main business is leased lines to SMEs, but thay have presence in London/Sheffield/manchester & Bristol.
[12:46] <nid0> yea I just saw theyre listed as a carrier at telehouse
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[12:46] <felipealmeida> Hello
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[12:55] <nid0> hey, I just realised, we're all still alive
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[12:55] <viric> time to party
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[12:55] <Ed_> we are not
[12:55] <Ed_> one of my pi just died
[12:56] <viric> what makes you think so?
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[13:00] <Ed_> the sound it made when falling about 20 meters
[13:01] <felipealmeida> does anybody knows when rs will ship? In the scheduling of its site it says my order number should already be shipped a few weeks ago, but I didn't receive any indication of it being shipped
[13:01] <viric> ok
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[13:25] <Megaf> TAFB, Canon EOS 50D, good camera
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[13:26] <Megaf> Adobe Photoshop CS2 Windows, awful software
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[13:30] <GriffenJBS> so who is working on hw accel for X?
[13:32] <sco`1> hi all. Is the camera for the rpi available yet ?
[13:32] <GriffenJBS> I had a go at it a while back, but didn't make much headway in X
[13:32] <GriffenJBS> sco`1: not yet
[13:32] <sco`1> ok thanks
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[14:03] <splitter> Evening. Has anybody any experience with using sound APIs on the rpi? I've started out by using OpenAL which works, but playing 4 samples simultaneously takes up roughly 12% CPU-time -- so I'm looking whether I perhaps could do better with OpenMAX.
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[14:10] <jollyroger> Hello, I've received 2 RPi devices (BS1238) yesterday. It's great except I get power loss on USB and Ethernet devices for one of them. The other one works fine even on a stress tests though.
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[14:10] <jollyroger> Is there anything I can do about it? Or should I send it back to replace?
[14:15] <linuxstb> splitter: I guess you've seen the hello_audio sample? Beyond that, I think you'll need to look at the openmax API documentation to see if it supports mixing on the GPU. I'm guessing OpenAL is just using ALSA?
[14:18] <splitter> linuxstb: I've had a look at it, but it doesn't look too pleasant, and I'd also like to do the actual decoding on the GPU (so that I don't have to pass around 50-megabyte-blobs of raw PCM data in RAM), which is what the hello_audio seems to do (as far as I can tell)
[14:18] <splitter> I suspect OpenAL just uses ALSA, but I'm not entirely sure
[14:18] <linuxstb> No, openmax isn't pleasent.
[14:18] <linuxstb> What do you mean by decoding? Decoding from something like mp3?
[14:19] <splitter> linuxstb: something like that would be nice if possible, yeah
[14:19] <splitter> or really any type of format that is more space-efficient than raw pcm
[14:19] <linuxstb> GPU audo codecs aren't enabled for the Pi. IIUC, the firmware blob includes decoders for DTS and AC-3, but the foundation isn't selling the licenses (yet?).
[14:20] <splitter> I guess I'll just stick to OpenAL, then
[14:20] <linuxstb> So I think you'll just have to stick to PCM, possible reducing the samplerate and/or bit-depth.
[14:22] <splitter> Basically my main priority is to keep CPU usage low (so that I can use it for other things) and to get accurate playback notifications (because I want to trigger certain events at certain timestamps) -- With OpenAL I get something like +/- 5ms precision, in my measurements so far, which is okay, I guess
[14:23] <ReggieUK> 5ms is pretty good for that cpu
[14:23] <ReggieUK> considering it's doing all the grunt work
[14:23] <splitter> No clue how much of it is happening on the CPU
[14:23] <splitter> but playing with one OpenAL source, I get something like 5% CPU usage
[14:24] <linuxstb> I would guess it's all happening on the CPU.
[14:24] <ReggieUK> I was playing with an app. called 'mixxx' last night, quad core machine, I couldn't get lower than 10ms
[14:24] <ReggieUK> wiht onboard sound
[14:25] <splitter> ReggieUK: well, I'm measuring latency first and then correcting a little bit, so that helps, but it's still a little bit random
[14:25] <splitter> but the important thing is that the events look like they hppen exactly on a beat to a human
[14:26] <ReggieUK> you'll get away with it at 5ms I reckon
[14:26] <ReggieUK> 10-20ms and some will start to notice
[14:26] <ReggieUK> 40ms and you're about a frame of video out (so it get's noticeable between the ear and the eye)
[14:26] <splitter> yeah
[14:27] <splitter> so my main concern is really that I'll have to marshall the audio chunks manually, loading wav files piece by piece or something akin to that
[14:27] <splitter> to prevent eating up all the RAM at once
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[14:28] <ReggieUK> most audio stuff uses a buffer of some kind
[14:30] <SpeedEvil> splitter: really?
[14:31] <SpeedEvil> splitter: a hundred meg of audio samples is a hell of a lot
[14:31] <SpeedEvil> and can a,l be held in ram trivially
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[14:37] <splitter> SpeedEvil: one 3 minute song converted to raw PCM takes like 30megs of ram.
[14:38] <SpeedEvil> well, yes.
[14:38] <splitter> with a 128/128 split, that's a quarter of the ram
[14:38] <SpeedEvil> but how many times are you going to use a whole song as a sample?
[14:38] <splitter> if I need to hold two songs simultaneously in RAM at all times, that's like half my RAM gone
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[14:38] <splitter> all the time
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[14:47] <GriffenJBS> splitter: so stream it
[14:48] <splitter> GriffenJBS: yes, as I said, that's the idea -- the main problem with that is 1) slow & small SD-card, 2) decoding on-the-fly from mp3/ogg/whatever eats up tons of CPU resources, 3) lots of manual code to write
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[14:49] <splitter> hence why I was interested in doing it on the VC instead -- that would make pretty much everything significantly easier and more elegant
[14:49] <GriffenJBS> ReggieUK: I get that 40ms is off by a frame, but is it really that easy to detect? are you using a black screen that flashes one frame of white with the attack of a single note? even then most people would just think it was them not the system
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[14:50] <GriffenJBS> so use a simpler format like mlaw
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[14:50] <GriffenJBS> ... guess that depends on the bandwidth of the sd
[14:51] <splitter> GriffenJBS: haven't looked at mlaw so far, I'll have a look. But it'll end up being a trade-off between SD-card space and speed and decoding overhead, at any rate
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[14:52] <GriffenJBS> mp3 is decode heavy so your looking for something simpler than that, what are your requirements for audio? 44k 16 bit stereo?
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[14:53] <splitter> GriffenJBS: yes. I can probably push it a little down, if I have to.
[14:53] <SuperMiguel> is there a break out board for the USB ports, like to connect the rpi to a battery?
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[14:55] <GriffenJBS> SuperMiguel: the standard or micro port(s)?
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[14:57] <SuperMiguel> GriffenJBS: micro
[14:57] <SuperMiguel> GriffenJBS: i mean, how do people connect their rpi to a battery?
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[14:57] <GriffenJBS> there are lots of battery packs with USB output, just plug the micro usb cable into one
[14:58] <SuperMiguel> GriffenJBS: true.. How about a non usb battery Lo
[14:58] <GriffenJBS> here is a fancy one http://adafruit.com/products/962?gclid=CNPP6ubTq7QCFQkFnQodp08AHA
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[14:59] <GriffenJBS> Are you trying to build one?
[15:01] <SuperMiguel> GriffenJBS: problem is i dont have much space, and where im putting the rpi there is a 12V battery there (http://www.trossenrobotics.com/3s-11v-2200mah-25c-lipo-battery) so i was thinking to use a 7805 to lower it down to 5v and connect the pi to it
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[15:02] <GriffenJBS> yeah, that will work, just be aware the 7805 is a cheap, but inefficient way to do it, but if you have it on hand it should work
[15:02] <SuperMiguel> but then, if i use a 7805 all i got is two wires, GND and VCC not sure how to connect that to my rasp pi
[15:03] <SuperMiguel> GriffenJBS: i guess my only choice is some kind of regular usb breakboard so i can use the USB to micro cable
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[15:04] <xrosnight> hey guys. it's 2012, 21st Dec now.
[15:06] <GriffenJBS> SuperMiguel: I see, either a breakout with USB A Female, or cut a cord in half and use the usb micro end
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[15:11] <SuperMiguel> GriffenJBS: you said the 7805 is not a good idea... Is there a better chipp to do that job?
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[15:13] <Megaf> folks, what do you think about this case? http://thepihut.com/collections/cases/products/ice-white-raspberry-pi-case
[15:13] <Megaf> does it worth that money?
[15:14] <GriffenJBS> check out http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=449105
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[15:15] <GriffenJBS> the 7805 is a linear regulator, a switching regulator will give you higher efficiency, and less waste heat
[15:15] <GriffenJBS> forget that last link, this is much better http://www.rc-cam.com/dc-dc.htm
[15:16] <Megaf_> 7805 is not a good choice at all
[15:16] <Megaf_> better would be a dc-dc psu
[15:18] <Megaf_> GriffenJBS, This thing look really nice, http://www.dimensionengineering.com/products/de-sw050
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[15:22] <GriffenJBS> Megaf_: that's a nice device, but for $16+ that's over 8x the price of a 7805 off the shelf at a local store
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[15:23] <GriffenJBS> Jameco has 7805 for $0.29 + S&H
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[15:28] <ReggieUK> 7805 is incredibly wasteful of energy
[15:29] <ReggieUK> so go for something more efficient
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[15:29] <gordonDrogon> sometimes a 7805 just works though...
[15:29] <ReggieUK> oh of course, that was going to be my next comment
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[15:30] <ReggieUK> well, more like, it depends entirely how much you care about energy usage
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[15:30] <gordonDrogon> this is true.
[15:30] <ReggieUK> and heat
[15:30] <ReggieUK> if you're going to run it off small batteries, then don't use a 7805
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[15:30] <gordonDrogon> When I did my little lego thing I just used a 7805 - I'd have loved to have used a switching convertor, but didn't have the time to find a suitable one at the time.
[15:30] <hadifarnoud> Anyone here wants their growl notification be displayed on XBMC? if so, help me out here https://github.com/hadifarnoud/xbmc-growl
[15:30] <gordonDrogon> I was running off batteries :)
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[15:31] <gordonDrogon> the 9V motors were more of a drain than worying about the warm 7805...
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[15:32] <gordonDrogon> http://uk.farnell.com/xp-power/sr10s05/switching-regulator-5v-1a-o-p/dp/1861095?Ntt=sr10s05
[15:32] <gordonDrogon> was an off-the-shelf one I found though.
[15:32] <ReggieUK> ebay probably have a ton of them
[15:33] <gordonDrogon> A friend of mine uses them when refurbishing spectrums - pin compatible with a 7805.
[15:33] <gordonDrogon> http://www.rapidonline.com/Electrical-Power/1A-Single-output-step-down-DC-to-DC-converters-R-78xx-1-0-series-78072 <-- similar
[15:34] <GriffenJBS> that's ~$10
[15:34] <gordonDrogon> sure.
[15:34] <ReggieUK> micrel do some nice power ICs
[15:35] <gordonDrogon> these are ready to go devices. sometimes convenience is worth it?
[15:35] <ReggieUK> agreed
[15:35] <IT_Sean> Gooood morning.
[15:36] <ReggieUK> hi IT_Sean
[15:36] <IT_Sean> Hey Reg
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[15:36] <GriffenJBS> SuperMiguel: hopefully you see this
[15:36] <cheesecakes> hello
[15:37] <cheesecakes> i have a pen drive mounted but i cant see it in mtab
[15:37] <cheesecakes> i can see one partition though
[15:37] <cheesecakes> any suggestions how do i unmount or get the uuid of this second partition
[15:38] <cheesecakes> i am running raspbian
[15:38] <SuperMiguel> GriffenJBS: ya im looing at the links
[15:38] <cheesecakes> i can see the partition in cfdisk
[15:38] <SuperMiguel> GriffenJBS: this looks good: http://www.dimensionengineering.com/products/de-sw050
[15:38] <ReggieUK> dmesg|grep sd
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[15:39] <ReggieUK> erm, ignore that
[15:39] <gordonDrogon> cheesecakes, you wouldn't normally look in mtab birectly
[15:39] <SuperMiguel> GriffenJBS: how is that different from a 7805? just regular 7805 with heatshield?
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[15:39] <cheesecakes> ok so anyway to sort this out
[15:40] <gordonDrogon> cheesecakes, and a lot will depend on how your udev, etc. is setup to auto-mount USB drives anyway.
[15:40] <GriffenJBS> SuperMiguel: for one the efficiency goes from ~50% to ~90%, so your battery last longer
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[15:40] <ReggieUK> what exactly are you trying to do cheesecakes?
[15:40] <gordonDrogon> cheesecakes, df -h will tell you easilly if it's mounted or not.
[15:40] <GriffenJBS> and the heat goes from ~3.5W to almost 0
[15:40] <cheesecakes> everything is defualt
[15:40] <cheesecakes> i dont see it in df
[15:40] <gordonDrogon> then it's not (auto) mounted.
[15:40] <cheesecakes> i am trying to unmount
[15:41] <cheesecakes> i see it /media
[15:41] <cheesecakes> also i am able to write something there
[15:41] <gordonDrogon> hm.
[15:41] <GriffenJBS> cheesecakes: is the dir in /media empty?
[15:41] <cheesecakes> my sdard is full
[15:41] <SuperMiguel> GriffenJBS: so is that probably my best bet?
[15:41] <GriffenJBS> it will still exist if nothing is mounted
[15:41] <cheesecakes> no i wgetted some stuff there
[15:41] <ReggieUK> the /media/ dir is the base mountpoint for all removeable media
[15:42] <cheesecakes> and i can edit that stuff too
[15:42] <GriffenJBS> SuperMiguel: the one you linked is nice, but others like it can be had for 2/3 the price
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[15:42] <gordonDrogon> it's not mounted - you've probably just copied stuff to the SD card.
[15:42] <ReggieUK> so your sd card will be something like /media/<partition1 label> /media/<partition2 label> etc.
[15:43] <ReggieUK> if you copied/wget'd stuff to /media/ directly then it will still be there and not on the sd card
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> *sigh* /media/ is just ONE mountpoint, although in some systems it's relatively standard.
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[15:43] <GriffenJBS> on a pi, anything in /media, not mounted, will be on the sd card
[15:44] <ReggieUK> oh durp
[15:44] <ReggieUK> yeah, my bad
[15:44] <cheesecakes> if i do mount /dev/sda /media/pen i get a new drive
[15:44] <ReggieUK> I forgot we were talking about a pen drive
[15:44] <cheesecakes> which is a full partition for a bootable debian
[15:45] <cheesecakes> cfdisk shows the partition with no name
[15:45] <cheesecakes> fdisk -l doesnt
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[15:47] <cheesecakes> if i do a reboot i get the /media/USB automatically
[15:47] <gordonDrogon> most usb devices come with a single partition over the whole disk - often the first partition, but I've seen some varyiance there.
[15:48] <gordonDrogon> I often nuke them and repartition/fomatthem myself.
[15:48] <gordonDrogon> but when you plug it in, the output of dmesg ought to tel lyou what's plugged in.
[15:48] <SuperMiguel> GriffenJBS: 1A umm do you think that will be enough for running a small wireless adapter, and a USB webcam from the rpi?
[15:48] <cheesecakes> the trouble is the pi is in another part of the world
[15:48] <cheesecakes> lol
[15:49] <gordonDrogon> a-ha..
[15:49] <cheesecakes> and the person responsible is away
[15:49] <gordonDrogon> cat /proc/scsi/scsi might help.., then fdisk -l
[15:49] <gordonDrogon> but if it's not showing in df -h then it's not mounted.
[15:49] <cheesecakes> maybe the pen drive is incorrectly formatted
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[15:50] <cheesecakes> no such file
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[15:51] <gordonDrogon> ah. Pi kernel doesn't have the old /proc/scsi interface in it )-:
[15:52] <gordonDrogon> ...mutter/ newfangled stuff / when I wur a lad / etc.
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[15:58] <SuperMiguel> is there a way to know how much current i would need to run a small USB wireless card/ USB webcam and a rpi?
[16:02] <gordonDrogon> lots.
[16:03] <gordonDrogon> you coupld plug it in and see if the Pi keeps on working..
[16:04] <SuperMiguel> well i dont have the hardware
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[16:04] <SuperMiguel> im trying to buy it
[16:05] <gordonDrogon> I presume you don't want to use a powered hub?
[16:05] <SuperMiguel> gordonDrogon: ya cant :( dont have space
[16:05] <gordonDrogon> is it a Rev 1 or 2 Pi?
[16:06] <SuperMiguel> 2 i think its one of the new 512mb one
[16:06] <gordonDrogon> ok
[16:06] <gordonDrogon> you've got between 200 and 350mA spare on the +5V possibly a little more, but not much.
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[16:06] <SuperMiguel> ill be powering it from a 12V, 2200mah so i was thinking about using this: http://www.dimensionengineering.com/products/de-sw050
[16:07] <gordonDrogon> if they need more than that, then personally, I'd solder wires from the power input socket directly to the USB sockets
[16:07] <SuperMiguel> but not sure if 1A is enough
[16:07] <gordonDrogon> I guess you could check the datasheets, but who knows how accurate they might be.
[16:08] <SuperMiguel> ya i was just looking at the webcam datasheet (made by microsoft :S) and doesnt say how much current it uses
[16:09] <GriffenJBS> SuperMiguel: assume 500mA for each usb device, and 500mA for the pi, those numbers are high, but better safe than sorry
[16:09] <SuperMiguel> do they have a 7805 that supports more than 1a?
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[16:10] <GriffenJBS> it does say 1.25A for 1 min, so a little overloading is possible
[16:10] <SuperMiguel> GriffenJBS: i guess i could buy this: http://www.dimensionengineering.com/products/de-swadj3 to be on the safe side
[16:10] <SuperMiguel> $26 :S
[16:11] <GriffenJBS> and they state it can be used in parallel, so two side by side should provide 2-2.5 A
[16:11] <SuperMiguel> ya but 2 of them price wise = the price of the switching regulator
[16:12] <GriffenJBS> everything you've linked have been switching
[16:12] <SuperMiguel> not sure whats better
[16:13] <SuperMiguel> i meant the second one
[16:13] <SuperMiguel> the adjustable switch regulator
[16:13] <SuperMiguel> http://www.dimensionengineering.com/products/de-swadj3
[16:13] <GriffenJBS> yeah
[16:13] <GriffenJBS> it's about a coin toss
[16:14] <SuperMiguel> i guess that adjustable one is less bulky and less wiring
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[16:21] <Schnabeltier> Hail Eris, everyone. I've recently found my pi in the mail and tried to install vice emulator on it. I followed each step according to this tutorial but it won't work. (http://elinux.org/RPi_VICE_C64_Emulator) This is what i get in reply "E: Unable to locate package vice"... can you help me?
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[16:24] <linuxstb> Schnabeltier: That tutorial is very old (from April 2012), and isn't for actually running Vice on a Pi, it's for running it on VirtualBox.
[16:25] <Schnabeltier> thanks for your quick reply. am i getting this right that the pi is currently unable to run vice?
[16:27] <dr_willis> a C64 emulator in virtualbox?
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[16:35] <frikinz> If I'm not mistaken, it seems to apply to official debian, not raspbian.
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[16:36] <IT_Sean> This just in... the world has not ended. Told you so!
[16:37] <frikinz> Maybe the maya have done a mistake in their calculation and its supposed to be tomorrow. or after tomorrorow. or..
[16:38] <IT_Sean> or perhaps they just ran out of room on the calendar to go beyond today?
[16:38] <IT_Sean> you think of that?
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[16:40] <megaproxy> sean
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[16:40] <megaproxy> where in UK is best to order from atm?
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[16:43] <dr_willis> The one Mayan that knew how their calander worked died... so they stoped making them. ;)
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[16:44] <IT_Sean> megaproxy: why are you asking me? :p
[16:44] <megaproxy> IT_Sean, you were the last person to speak ;)
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[16:45] <IT_Sean> Fair enough. You can see the offical resellers on the raspberrypi website.
[16:45] <frikinz> wikipedia mentions several person pointing out error in calculation about the 21 december. hummmmm
[16:45] <frikinz> uho
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[16:45] <megaproxy> well id order from RS
[16:45] <megaproxy> but
[16:45] <megaproxy> they take forever to deliver :(
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[16:46] <TAFB> megaproxy: good mornin :)
[16:46] <TomWij> megaproxy: If you are in UK, it only should be 1 week + max 5 days.
[16:46] <megaproxy> allo TAFB :D
[16:46] <dr_willis> I only had to wait 5 mo for my Pis ;)
[16:46] <TAFB> megaproxy: nobody on ebay that's willing to rape you and provide one fast? :)
[16:46] <megaproxy> TomWij, last order took 3 months..
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[16:47] <TomWij> megaproxy: Last order != now.
[16:47] <TAFB> megaproxy: you get new sketchup drawings of flush mount 2u yet?!?! and if not, wtf?!
[16:47] <megaproxy> hahaah
[16:47] <megaproxy> not yet
[16:47] <megaproxy> i tried
[16:47] <megaproxy> and my pc bluescreened again
[16:48] <TAFB> megaproxy: nice
[16:48] <megaproxy> its.. pretty much dead atm :(
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[16:48] <megaproxy> i wana get the case on the rpi blog now
[16:48] <megaproxy> lol
[16:48] <TomWij> megaproxy: My order was done in the end of October and arrived early December; they did as promised, it arrived after 5 weeks and 3 working days as listed on their website. They have now lowered that to one week, since they worked through their queue.
[16:48] <TAFB> what case?
[16:48] <megaproxy> 2u
[16:49] <TAFB> linky
[16:49] <megaproxy> wat
[16:49] <megaproxy> its not there yet. i just want to get it on there
[16:49] <megaproxy> gota finish it first...
[16:49] <TAFB> megaproxy: ahhh
[16:49] <TAFB> you saw the lego server case?
[16:49] <TomWij> So, in Europe, you would get your RPi is under 2 weeks if you order through RS Components.
[16:49] <TAFB> someone beat you to the idea
[16:49] <TAFB> and he's 6 years old
[16:49] <megaproxy> TomWij, hm
[16:50] <TomWij> I believe Farnell is faster, but in the end of October that wasn't an option for me because they didn't ship international anymore and I didn't know of a local reseller at that point.
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[16:50] <TomWij> They're doing something similar for the US right now, splitting it up to local resellers.
[16:51] <megaproxy> ill go with whoever is cheaper then :P
[16:51] <megaproxy> save a penny!
[16:51] <TAFB> megaproxy: lego Pi server: http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/supercomputerweb1.jpg
[16:51] <TomWij> I'd think that would be RS, unless Farnell decided to lower prices lately.
[16:51] <megaproxy> i need that.
[16:51] <megaproxy> lol
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[16:53] <megaproxy> hmmm
[16:53] <megaproxy> how many should i order.
[16:53] <IT_Sean> um... one?
[16:53] <Polarina> When I place my finger on the CPU, it doesn't feel hot at all, just very nice tolerable warmth. Is that normal or is my Pi colder than usual?
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[16:53] <IT_Sean> Polarina: the SoC does not give off a lot of heat. It is meant ot remain cool to the touch
[16:54] <Polarina> IT_Sean, ah, thanks.
[16:54] <TomWij> Polarina: My Pi's CPU has been 100% for a while now, it doesn't feel too hot; actually, the GPU is hotter and isn't doing much. :P
[16:55] <TomWij> Another 25 packages to compile (of 120 or so) on this Gentoo-based RPi and I'll finally be able to check out a hopefully working XBMC.
[16:55] <lupinedk> TomWij: uhm the GPU is in the same package
[16:55] <Polarina> Hehe. That's fun. :)
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[16:55] <xzr> gentoo based rpi
[16:55] <xzr> dear god
[16:55] <Amadiro> TomWij, the GPU? Don't you mean the network card?
[16:55] <Amadiro> s/card/chip/
[16:56] <TomWij> Oh... same package. o_O
[16:56] <Polarina> I've been playing with RISC OS myself. And some games.
[16:56] <Amadiro> TomWij, yes, the GPU (vc) is in the same package as the CPU
[16:57] <Amadiro> but they both do not get very hot even if both are working at full load, IME
[16:57] <Amadiro> the networking chip gets way hotter
[16:57] <TAFB> http://jkrglobal.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Raspberry-Pi-schematic1.jpg
[16:57] <TomWij> lupinedk, Amadiro: The smaller ship is the networking chip then I suppose? I've assumed it to be the GPU until now. (See http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs where it is _unlabeled_)
[16:57] <Amadiro> Supposedly this is because it is connected wrong, but I haven't looked at it myself.
[16:57] <TAFB> http://earthwiseharmony.com/PRODUCTS/images/Raspberry-Pi-SchematicAustralia.jpg
[16:58] <TomWij> Oh right, I see, thanks.
[16:58] <Amadiro> TomWij, indeed, that would be the ethernet-via-usb chip.
[16:58] <TomWij> Yeah, network gets hotter.
[16:58] <Amadiro> smsc only makes that type of thing (networking chips) to my knowledge.
[16:59] <TomWij> But well, I'm outputting the build logs over ssh as well as running distcc to speed up the compilation, so wouldn't surprise me it has to sustain a lot of traffic there.
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[17:00] <mikecodes> Hey all, I'm having some issues with an edimax wifi adapter
[17:02] <mikecodes> Whenever I plug it in and view dmesg I see USB disconnect and reconnect messages over and over and over
[17:03] <TomWij> xzr: Well, it has its advantages if you don't mind spending some time on it.
[17:03] <IT_Sean> Polarina: keep this in mind as well, the SoC is actually underneath the bit you are touching. The bit you are touching is the RAM. The actual "brains" of the raspi are UNDER that.
[17:03] <mikecodes> It seems like it's a power issue, do these devices require a powered USB hub or should the pi be capable of powering them off of its USB ports
[17:04] <Polarina> IT_Sean, I think I figured so much out, but thought it might transfer more heat than it seems to do.
[17:04] <pksato> mikecodes: what board revision you have?
[17:04] <IT_Sean> mikecodes: sounds like the Pi might not be supplying enough power to your USB devices. You might want to try a powered hub.
[17:04] <TomWij> IT_Sean: Keep that in mind for "what"? Does that mean the heat is less likely to be transferred or that caution should be taken when approaching it to avoid problems?
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[17:04] <Amadiro> mikecodes, you can use `lsusb` to see how much current the device wishes to draw
[17:05] <mikecodes> I have the early model b
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[17:05] <Amadiro> (if you manage to catch it) but likely you'll need a hub
[17:05] <mikecodes> before the ram was upped
[17:05] <IT_Sean> TomWij: i was just saying... I dunno how well the RAM chip itself transfers heat from the cpu
[17:05] <megaproxy> i hate my router....
[17:05] <pksato> mikecodes: board with polyfuses F1 and F2?
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[17:05] <mikecodes> argh, left my powered hub in another state
[17:06] <pksato> In this case, need a good powered USB hub.
[17:06] <Polarina> mikecodes, you could try putting it in the "on" state. :|
[17:07] <mikecodes> how to I identify the polyfuses?
[17:07] <pksato> green thiings near usb ports
[17:08] <TomWij> IT_Sean: Okay, I see; on the other hand, you can read out the temperature of the GPU but this again makes one wonder if it is close to the CPU temperature: `/opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp`
[17:08] <pksato> see photos here http://pksato.blogspot.com.br/2012/12/replacing-polyfuses-of-raspberry-pi.html
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[17:09] <Varazir> what's the default password, read raspberry should be it raspberry
[17:09] <Amadiro> Varazir, raspbian?
[17:09] <mikecodes> my polyfuses just have a 14 silkscreened on top
[17:09] <mikecodes> so I'm guessing theyre the same 140ma?
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[17:09] <pksato> mikecodes: YES, 140mA.
[17:09] <Varazir> Amadiro: the SD card I recived with the device
[17:10] <Varazir> Amadiro: I guess
[17:10] <TAFB> how do you read GPU temp
[17:10] <TAFB> and is there any way to read GPU size?
[17:10] <Amadiro> Varazir, the raspberry pi doesn't normally come with an SD card
[17:10] <GriffenJBS> TAFB: gpu temp == cpu temp, it's all on the same die
[17:10] <Amadiro> Varazir, if its raspbian, username is "pi", password is "raspberrypi" I think
[17:10] <TAFB> GriffenJBS: ahh, okies :)
[17:10] <Amadiro> or maybe just "raspberry".
[17:10] <TomWij> GriffenJBS: Ah, that's good to know.
[17:10] <GriffenJBS> what do you mean GPU size?
[17:10] <TomWij> TAFB: `/opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp`
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[17:11] <mikecodes> so potentially my adapter isn't receiving the USB compliant 5V
[17:11] <TAFB> instead of calculationg avail memory from total memory, is there a command to ask it "what is the gpu memory"?
[17:11] * Aranel first time booting RasPi, fingers crossed
[17:11] <GriffenJBS> or just read /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
[17:11] <TomWij> As for size, you probably just could subtract (amount of memory RPi has) - (amount of memory in total of `free -m`)
[17:11] <Varazir> Amadiro: non of it works well well
[17:11] <TAFB> I need to do it without subtracting, that's the problem.
[17:12] <pksato> mikecodes: and, check voltage from TP1 to TP2.
[17:12] <Aranel> I'm planning to use RaspberryPi for XBMC and for some extra purposes (owncloud, some python stuff, maybe a webserver + owncloud, torrenting). should I go with Raspbian or Raspbmc?
[17:12] <Amadiro> Varazir, then you probably wanna figure out what kind of operating system is on the SD card (or just download raspbian and put it on there)
[17:12] <mikecodes> pksato: What should I expect there?
[17:12] <GriffenJBS> ... ? not that I'm aware of, but it will be calculated the same way, so what's the point?
[17:12] <Varazir> Amadiro: I got it
[17:13] <pksato> mikecodes: 4.4V to 5.2
[17:13] <GriffenJBS> the GPU has X ram, it shares Y with the CPU, so the GPU has X-Y left
[17:13] <TAFB> what is the "gpu has x ram" command. I need it it to tell me GPU size.
[17:14] <mikecodes> alright, i'll just keep it wired for now. Thanks for the help
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[17:15] <mikecodes> everything I need for that is 300 miles away so i'll have to look into this next week
[17:15] <mikecodes> enjoy the holidays everyone!
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[17:15] <GriffenJBS> TAFB: you won't like the answer you get
[17:15] <GriffenJBS> X + Y != total ram
[17:16] <TAFB> that sucks
[17:16] <TAFB> so there's no way to ask it what the GPU memory size is? lol.
[17:17] <GriffenJBS> (GpuRam + blobRam) + (CpuRam + kernelRam) = total
[17:18] <TAFB> i see the formula. gpuram = blob + cpu + kerneral - known total ram chip
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[17:19] <GriffenJBS> ok, except there is no way to get blob size so two unknown, how to solve?
[17:22] <TomWij> GriffenJBS: Where does this blobRam and kernelRam come from?
[17:22] <TomWij> The kernel is just part of the CPU RAM.
[17:23] <GriffenJBS> blob is essentially the bios for the pi, it's loaded into the gpu on boot, can' use it for GPU stuff and can't remove it, but it's using a bit of the ram
[17:24] <GriffenJBS> the kernel, is the almost the same thing, but on the cpu
[17:24] <GriffenJBS> I'm skipping a lot of details, I'd rather not get into
[17:24] <TomWij> The BIOS is probably very small though.
[17:25] <GriffenJBS> 16+Meg
[17:25] <GriffenJBS> most is for buffers for CPU<->GPU
[17:25] <GriffenJBS> may be smaller, but that was the case as of Oct 1
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[17:26] <TomWij> GriffenJBS: 16+Meg is non-sense because there is a 16 Meg memory split, so it can't be 16+Meg.
[17:26] <TAFB> i'm running 16 split :)
[17:26] <GriffenJBS> 16+, it's not smaller than 16
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[17:26] <GriffenJBS> 16 for the blob, and possibly more for the GPU
[17:27] <GriffenJBS> if nothing is left for GPU to use, little point in making buffers for it
[17:27] <heymaster> so pi don't have bios except gpu one?
[17:27] <GriffenJBS> the GPU on the BCM2708 also handles DMA, PMC and other hardware
[17:28] <GriffenJBS> heymaster: it's not a bios by definition, but similar purpose and function
[17:28] <gordonDrogon> it's probably more correct to say that it just has a bootloader - 'bios' is too generous...
[17:28] <TomWij> Where is it listed that it keeps this in memory?
[17:28] <GriffenJBS> gordonDrogon: software interface to hardware, ie BIOS in PC terms
[17:28] <gordonDrogon> I know, but really, all the gpu does is load a file from SD ..
[17:29] <GriffenJBS> then runs that file
[17:29] <TomWij> And kernel RAM has always been considered part of the CPU RAM when talking about total RAM.
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[17:29] <GriffenJBS> then loads a kernel and starts the CPU
[17:30] <GriffenJBS> TomWij: I agree, but you need to know the difference as used+free ram is usually less than total physical ram
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[17:31] <TomWij> GriffenJBS: That's because we have buffers and cache as well, but that all shouldn't matter since we have `free -m` and the total listed there includes the rest.
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[17:31] <Grievre> Er
[17:31] <GriffenJBS> please don't mention cache and buffers, people get too confused, just call it all free
[17:32] <Grievre> the Pi's bootloader has to read from the SD card, and understand FAT enough to load whatever it's loading
[17:32] <GriffenJBS> used vs (cache + buffers + free)
[17:32] <Grievre> so it must have some kind of system for doing input and output
[17:32] <Grievre> it can be a basic one
[17:32] <Grievre> some sort of ... basic input/output system
[17:32] <TomWij> GriffenJBS: If you get confused, then perhaps just run `dmesg | grep Memory`.
[17:32] <GriffenJBS> I'm not confused
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[17:33] <Torikun> TAFB: yo
[17:33] <TAFB> if anyone wants, they can reference my status page and look at the total/free ram: http://tafb.yi.org/
[17:33] <GriffenJBS> but this is a public channel and many people here are rather new to the details
[17:33] <TAFB> so total ram = 486mb
[17:33] <Torikun> Made some progress, inbound works, outbout says relay access denied lol
[17:33] <TAFB> Torikun: NICE!!! congrats
[17:33] <TAFB> Torikun: are you using smart host from your ISP?
[17:34] <GriffenJBS> TAFB: so 512 - 486 = 26?
[17:34] <Torikun> dunno what smarthost is
[17:34] <TAFB> Torikun: you told me about smart host! or you mean you don't know your ISP's settings?
[17:34] <Torikun> you mean relayhost
[17:34] <TAFB> GriffenJBS: yep, but I have 16mb gpu spit
[17:34] <TAFB> Torikun: yeah, relayhost, my mail server calls it smarthost
[17:34] <GriffenJBS> so the other 10 is ...?
[17:35] <TAFB> Torikun: you need to setup relayhost through your ISP
[17:35] <Grievre> the code on the GPU does basically the same thing that a PC's BIOS does, at least insofar as how a PC's BIOS is actually used these days
[17:35] <Torikun> TAFB: should godaddy work?
[17:35] <Torikun> I dunno how to setitup with isp
[17:35] <Grievre> a truly PC-compatible BIOS also supplies a bunch of system calls to do IO for low-level stuff, but nobody uses that anymore so it's kind of irrelevant
[17:35] <TomWij> GriffenJBS: I don't really care, I refer to them whenever I feel like; rather have people learn than dumb things down, which leads to confusion much easier than not mentioning it.
[17:36] <GriffenJBS> BIOS drivers vs OS drivers
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[17:36] <TAFB> Torikun: I'm not sure godaddy offers SMTP services if you're just have a domain with them. I know gmail has some pretty kick butt SMTP servers but not sure if they let you relay mail from a non-gmail address.
[17:36] <Torikun> oh
[17:36] <TAFB> Torikun: you have thunderbird still right?
[17:36] <Torikun> yup
[17:36] <Grievre> TomWij: at some point you'll have to gloss over details because to not do so is an inefficient use of human mental capacity
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[17:36] <GriffenJBS> TomWij: I have the same attitude, but I've been fussed at in here several times for getting too technical "Think of the children" and crap like that
[17:37] <Torikun> TAFB: I still can not email outside the host so I think the problem is before thunderbird
[17:37] <TAFB> Torikun: set up a new account, your ISP's e-mail account, get it working for pop3 and smtp. If you need help, call your ISP. don't mention your server or Pi. just say "I have thunderbird, help me set up my isp e-mail account for pop3 and smtp"
[17:37] <GriffenJBS> I stated near the beginning I was being general and skipping details
[17:37] <Torikun> ok
[17:37] <TAFB> once you get thunderbird working for SMTP on your ISP account, you just copy all the SMTP settings into relay host (smtp.yourisp.com, port 25, username yourispaccount@yourisp.com, password, etc.)
[17:37] <Torikun> looks like smtp.att.yahoo.com
[17:37] <pksato> Torikun: Setup a full stand alone email server?
[17:38] <Torikun> http://forums.att.com/t5/Features-and-How-To/postfix-mail-server-and-mailman-mailing-list-on-ubuntu-with/m-p/2323619
[17:38] <Torikun> Yeah pksato
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[17:38] <pksato> And, have a fixed and not blacklisted ip?
[17:38] <TAFB> pksato: he's trying, but it won't let him send mail on port 25, dynamic ip he has
[17:38] <Torikun> dynamic
[17:39] <TAFB> Torikun: get SMTP working with ISP mail account in thunderbird, once you can send mail with it, we can get relay host working ;)
[17:39] <Torikun> ok ty
[17:39] <pksato> in this case, you need a so called smarthost email server.
[17:39] <TAFB> Torikun: you have my e-mail address from my test message right?
[17:39] <Torikun> i never got it
[17:39] <Torikun> you sent it before it was working right
[17:40] <TAFB> ahh
[17:40] <TAFB> i'l re-send it right now, let me know if you get it.
[17:40] <Torikun> ok ty
[17:40] <pksato> smarthost relay all emais to another server, and this same server relay all icoming emails to you server.
[17:40] <Torikun> ah
[17:40] <TAFB> pksato: his server calls it relay host, that's what we're setting up ;)
[17:40] <TAFB> Torikun: email sent
[17:41] <pksato> relay host is a next hop on email server chain.
[17:41] <TAFB> yep, his Pi -> isp as relay host -> to destination
[17:41] <TomWij> GriffenJBS: True, will keep that in mind; although a channel policy would help, and I wonder what FreeNode's policy regarding age is. But I think it's safe to assume the majority is of an old enough age... :)
[17:41] <Torikun> lol I got your email TAFB itneresting domain
[17:42] <pksato> relay host can be dermined by MX record of destination domain, or to a fixed.
[17:42] <TAFB> Torikun: hahahaha, thanks :) surprised you got it, must not have your spam filter set up yet ;)
[17:42] <Torikun> lol
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[17:43] <TAFB> Torikun: I'm glad you got it all working! That proves your MX records are working, you've got ports forwarded correct, your Pi and server software are working, your POP3 is working! wow, nice work.
[17:43] <pksato> Setup email server is not a easy task.
[17:44] <Torikun> TAFB: say I get this working, where will email be sent from? ATT or .com
[17:44] <TomWij> TAFB, GriffenJBS: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=8768 contains some techniques to get the GPU RAM more natively although they need vcdbg, which seems like a debugging binary you might not have; the only other approach I can come up with is through some programming API (if they even report memory usage).
[17:45] <Torikun> i mena what will people see as sender
[17:45] <gordonDrogon> be aware that an MX record has no relation to a relay host for outgiung email
[17:45] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: yep, I told him MX has nothing to do with outgoing, only incoming ;)
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[17:45] <Torikun> ty
[17:46] <ReggieUK> fyi. there is no channel policy on what is considered on or off topic, our main one is no swearing/foul language, so essentially keep it clean and relatively sensible and we probably won't bother you
[17:47] <gordonDrogon> Hmph. Lots of cars beeping outside )-: There's a deliver van blocking the street - but they'd be whinging more if they didn't get their xmas pressies!
[17:47] <ReggieUK> which 99% of people manage to do 99% of the time :)
[17:48] <Polarina> What have you people done with your Pies that you'd otherwise consider impractical to do with an ordinary desktop computer?
[17:48] <TAFB> Torikun: It's difficult to say. I assume it will say the email is from "rusher@rusher.com", as long as your ISP mail host allows you to relday mail from and address that doesn't end in @yourisp.com. There was a big stink when gmail started offering smtp services, because they would change your e-mail address from you@yourcompany.com to you@gmail.com!!!
[17:48] <TomWij> Polarina: So far, only CEC. :P
[17:49] <Torikun> oh
[17:49] <GriffenJBS> TAFB: have fun with `sudo /opt/vc/bin/vcdbg malloc`
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[17:49] <TAFB> Polarina: I'm replacing a loud/energy inefficient server with my Pi, serving websites and hosting e-mail/webmail/etc.
[17:49] <TAFB> Polarina: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-17-RaspberryPi_with_external_drive.jpg
[17:50] <TAFB> GriffenJBS: testing....
[17:50] <Polarina> TAFB, that looks shiny. :)
[17:50] <TAFB> GriffenJBS: Malloc pool size=15M
[17:50] <TAFB> ?
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[17:51] <TAFB> Polarina: sure is :) you can get a link to the case and info just under the Pi logo on my status page (powered by my Pi): http://tafb.yi.org/
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[17:51] <GriffenJBS> TAFB: I'm not sure, torikun pointed to a post and it mentioned vcdbg, I just started poking about with it and I'm not sure which allocator that is, but it is part of the GPU
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[17:52] <Polarina> TAFB, I see that "Warranty Bit". How do I check mine?
[17:52] <TomWij> s/torikun/TomWij/g
[17:52] <TAFB> nice. I think this is blob memory: 0x1f5ffe80 = malloc(10M) [call from 0x1f05091e]
[17:52] <TAFB> so 486 available memory + 16mb split + 10m blob = 512mb!!! WOOT!
[17:53] <GriffenJBS> Polarina: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[17:53] <TAFB> ^^ that
[17:53] <Polarina> GriffenJBS, oh. Haven't noticed it then.
[17:53] <TAFB> and give me your revision number
[17:53] <TomWij> TAFB: So, the blob is separate from the split?
[17:53] <TAFB> tomaw: Sure looks like it! GPU = GPU, Blob = 10M :)
[17:53] <GriffenJBS> is your revision number less than 16.7 million? if so your warranty is good
[17:53] <Polarina> Need to reflash my SD card and check it. Currently has just RISC OS.
[17:54] <TAFB> lol
[17:54] <Polarina> GriffenJBS, what has the revision number to do with warranty?
[17:54] <TAFB> Polarina: if you put a task into your Pi that it deems is warranty voidable, it re-writes your revision code
[17:54] <GriffenJBS> Polarina: the high bit gets set if you do something naughty
[17:54] <TomWij> TAFB: I see, nice. Well, at least that gives you a 512 - (CPU Total - Reported Blob)
[17:54] <TomWij> TAFB: There are other commands you can pass to vcdbg, maybe one of them is more useful to get the actual value.
[17:55] <GriffenJBS> you have to overvolt, overclock, etc it
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[17:55] <Polarina> I'd better check it then. I did overvolt my pi, but the wiki said it was fine. :|
[17:55] <TAFB> TomWij: possibly, I'm going to alter the GPU splits on my spare Pi, and get my friend who has 256mb pi to run the same commands and compare the results. Once I get it working on my status page I'll post the commands to get actual GPU size.
[17:56] <TomWij> TAFB: So far I've only seen 'malloc', 'reloc' and 'free', that last one is perhaps interesting to get the free amount of memory.
[17:57] <TomWij> s/memory/GPU memory/
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[18:02] <Torikun> ok called isp
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[18:04] <magi> How is the Raspberry Pi with voltage?
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[18:04] <magi> strict 5v or could someone use 4.5V or 6V?
[18:04] <nid0> it needs 5v within spec
[18:04] <nid0> so 4.75 - 5.25 ish
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[18:04] <magi> hmm damn
[18:05] <Kane> o/
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[18:06] <cipherwar> Having some trouble getting images to book with Raspberry Pi Model B
[18:07] <cipherwar> I have copied images to SD cards using dd which boot fine on the older Raspberry Pi but refuse to boot the new model
[18:07] <cipherwar> The only way i have been able to boot the new model is by creating FAT partitions with the boot script method
[18:07] <IT_Sean> magi: It adhires to the USB spec. So, a properly made USB power supply (mobile phone charger) should do. Just make sure that it outputs a steady 5v.
[18:07] <cipherwar> Anyone aware of what has changed with the model B regarding boot?
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[18:08] <Grievre> wait
[18:08] <magi> IT_Sean yes i know, but it would make my project sooo much easier to just use a 6V or 4.5V battery instead of transform 12V to 5V.
[18:08] <cipherwar> I am specifically trying to use this image: http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/download.php?file=/images/debian/6/debian6-19-04-2012/debian6-19-04-2012.zip
[18:08] <Grievre> how can it adhere to the USB spec? The USB spec says devices shouldn't draw more than 100 mA
[18:08] <Grievre> doesn't it?
[18:09] <IT_Sean> magi: sorry. 4.5v is not enough, and 6v would damage it.
[18:09] <magi> Yea, thats what i thought
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[18:11] <Grievre> IT_Sean: How much of the Pi uses 5V versus how much uses the 3.3V?
[18:12] <TAFB> the USB (including the Pi's network card) runs on 5v. the cpu and gpu are 3.3
[18:12] <Torikun> TAFB: I just setup thunderbid with att account
[18:13] <TAFB> Torikun: send me an e-mail!
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[18:13] <Torikun> relay denied
[18:13] <Torikun> you mean from isp?
[18:13] <TAFB> yeah, send me one from ISP account
[18:14] <TAFB> then we can do a special test
[18:14] <TAFB> do you have a gmail account?
[18:14] <Torikun> yes
[18:14] <Torikun> done
[18:14] <TAFB> sweet. k. 1 sec.
[18:14] <TAFB> got your e-mail ;)
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[18:14] <pksato> Torikun: most email server need to authenticate to permit relay (or send email)
[18:15] <Torikun> Yeah
[18:15] <Torikun> T_Sean yes i know, but it would make my project sooo much easier to just use a 6V or
[18:15] <Torikun> oops
[18:15] <Torikun> thats what i thought
[18:15] <Torikun> http://forums.att.com/t5/Features-and-How-To/postfix-mail-server-and-mailman-mailing-list-on-ubuntu-with/m-p/2323619
[18:15] <Torikun> I followed that guide
[18:15] <Torikun> to help with a little postfix
[18:15] <Torikun> looks like you need to enable sasl
[18:16] <TAFB> Torikun: ok, can you screen cap ALL of your outgoing SMTP settings in thunderboard for me plz? and can you pastebin the actual "relay denied" error message.
[18:16] <Torikun> ok
[18:16] <TAFB> I'm thinking we'll just use gmail to relay, should be way easier.
[18:16] <TAFB> gimme a few mins to put the info together.
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[18:16] <Matt> Grievre: spec is 500mA max for a device, but the spec also defines a USB charger, which is PSU only, and that's intended to be a port that can supply up to 1.8A
[18:18] <cheesecakes> i figured out the pen drive thing
[18:18] <cheesecakes> it was just me being stupid and not reading stuff properly
[18:18] <cheesecakes> turns raspbian doesnt have auto mount and i was writing to sd card
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[18:20] <TAFB> Torikun: got your logs. Can you run this for me: telnet smtp.gmail.com 587
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[18:20] <Torikun> ok
[18:20] <Torikun> Connected
[18:20] <TAFB> paste the string at the top
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[18:21] <Torikun> 220 mx.google.com ESMTP oj5sm7293399pbb.47
[18:21] <TAFB> woot!
[18:21] <TAFB> nice :)
[18:21] <TAFB> gmail has a special port you can use, for ISP's that block relaying through 3rd part ;)
[18:22] <TAFB> so you think you can use SSL mode for the relay host?
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[18:22] <Torikun> looking at the logs, i am missing it?
[18:22] <TAFB> in your log, the word "ssl" does not exist
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[18:22] <TAFB> I see STARTTLS
[18:23] <TAFB> which is not ssl :)
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[18:23] <Torikun> att needs ssl
[18:23] <TAFB> ahhh
[18:23] <TAFB> that could be the whole problem
[18:23] <TAFB> looks like you're relay host settings are using TLS instead of SSL
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[18:24] <Torikun> restarting postfix now
[18:24] <Torikun> ok try now
[18:24] <TAFB> lol
[18:24] <TAFB> it's you try, e-mail out from your pi
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[18:25] <Torikun> Dec 21 09:25:41 rasptv postfix/smtp[2817]: CLIENT wrappermode (port smtps/465) is unimplemented
[18:25] <Torikun> Dec 21 09:25:41 rasptv postfix/smtp[2817]: instead, send to (port submission/587) with STARTTLS
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[18:26] <TAFB> TLS? *puke*
[18:26] <TAFB> I know gmail works with TLS
[18:26] <TAFB> in case postfix doesn't support ssl
[18:26] <Torikun> ok how to do gmail then lol
[18:27] <Torikun> create password file /etc/postfix/passwd
[18:27] <nid0> you know starttls doesnt specifically mean tls right?
[18:27] <Torikun> tell it smtp.gmail.com
[18:27] * olsen (~sesselast@absinthe.ifi.uzh.ch) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
[18:27] <Torikun> :%87?
[18:27] <Torikun> :587
[18:28] <TAFB> Torikun: for TLS and Gmail, it's http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=78775
[18:28] <TAFB> port 587 for TLS
[18:29] <TAFB> Torikun: here's more info about sending mail through gmail using a different e-mail address: http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=22370&topic=1669030&ctx=topic
[18:30] <Torikun> got an error with gmail relay
[18:30] <TAFB> have you added rusher@rusherXXX.com into g-mail?
[18:30] <TAFB> read the pages I sent you
[18:30] <Torikun> what do you mean
[18:30] <TAFB> you have to sign into gmail
[18:30] <TAFB> to go settings
[18:30] <Torikun> ok
[18:31] <TAFB> click 'accounts and import"
[18:31] <TAFB> under "send mail add"
[18:31] <TAFB> click "add another address"
[18:31] <TAFB> the gmail error you got was: status=bounced (host smtp.gmail.com[173.194.77.108] said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first. t8sm8382025obn.15
[18:31] <TAFB> looks like TLS isn't enabled for your relay host for gmail :(
[18:32] <Torikun> http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=22370&topic=1669030&ctx=topic
[18:32] <Torikun> When you send mail as root@rusher81572.com, the mail can either be sent through Gmail or through rusher81572.com SMTP servers.
[18:32] <Torikun> send through gmail or smtp?
[18:32] <TAFB> right, we can't send it through rush.com smtp servers ;)
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[18:33] <TAFB> also, it says your e-mails are being sent from root@rusherXXX.com, might cause an issue if you're setting up the gmail account saying you'll be sending from rusher@@rusherXXX.com.
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[18:34] <Torikun> ok added account to gmail
[18:34] <TAFB> ^^^
[18:35] <Torikun> <philliptribble@att.net>: host smtp.gmail.com[173.194.77.108] said: 530 5.7.0 Must issue a STARTTLS command first. o3sm8397294obk.13 (in reply to MAIL FROM command)
[18:35] <TAFB> Must issue a STARTTLS
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[18:36] <TAFB> somthin not set up right
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[18:36] <Torikun> aH i DISABLED TLS WHEN WE WERE DOIGN ATT
[18:36] <TAFB> lol
[18:37] <Torikun> same problem
[18:37] <TAFB> same startTLS error?
[18:37] <Torikun> yup
[18:38] <Torikun> sasl required for TLS?
[18:38] <TAFB> no idea
[18:38] <TAFB> my mail server supports SSL for relay host ;)
[18:38] <nid0> so do they all
[18:38] <TAFB> Torikun: "I think the noplaintext option was just what is was looking for."
[18:38] <nid0> starttls doesnt specifically mean tls
[18:39] <TAFB> Postfix version 2.8.0 does not support SMTP client mode on SSL port 465.
[18:39] <TAFB> ^^ quote from site
[18:39] <TAFB> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/postfix-relayhost-configuration-smtps-622726/
[18:39] <Torikun> what do I do lol
[18:39] <TAFB> we just need to get TLS or SSL workin
[18:39] <Torikun> issue if you're setting up the gmail account saying you'll be sending from
[18:39] <TAFB> your postfix just isn't set up right.
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[18:39] <Torikun> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PostFix_Howto_With_SASL
[18:40] <Torikun> they mention plain login but arch wiki;s are out of date now and the files don't exist
[18:40] <nid0> what exactly are you trying to do, I havent been following this conversation at all
[18:40] <TAFB> Torikun: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/postfix-relayhost-configuration-smtps-622726/#post4263568
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[18:40] <gordonDrogon> nid0, I'm just dipping in & out, but it looks amusing ;-)
[18:40] <Knight4> guys, quick question: can omxplayer do playlists?
[18:41] <TAFB> nid0: he's trying to setup postfix to relay host through either his ISP or a 3rd party smto server.
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[18:42] <nid0> and wheres the problem exactly, presumably his isp blocks port 25, but whats wrong with using their mailservers?
[18:42] <confusid> trying to use motion and it says config is started on port 8081 it is and it works. But it also says the video is on 8080 which shows nothing. How can I go about trouble shooting this? The video worked yesterday then today I started the PI up and it is not working.
[18:42] <TAFB> nid0: he can't get SSL working, his ISP required it for their servers.
[18:43] <TAFB> nid0: and it's not 100% clear if his ISP will let him relay mail from his rusher@hiscompany.com address, instead of rusher@isp.com
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[18:43] <confusid> what about dynamic dns?
[18:43] <confusid> might get around the isp....
[18:44] <nid0> dns isnt even connected to his issue
[18:44] <TAFB> confusid: we are doing outgoing mail sending, no issues with the incoming (dynamic dns).
[18:44] <confusid> :)
[18:44] <TAFB> ;)
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[18:46] <confusid> ok my config is wonky.. using sudo motion ./motion.conf it works...
[18:46] <confusid> :)
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[18:48] <IT_Sean> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[18:48] <IT_Sean> lunch
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[18:49] <Grievre> Is the DRAM chip that sits on top of the processor a standard footprint or is it specifically for this CPU?
[18:50] <TAFB_eatin> Grievre: you upgrading to 1gb? :)
[18:50] <IT_Sean> :p
[18:50] <IT_Sean> good luck 'w that. ::eyeroll::
[18:50] <Grievre> I'm just wondering o.ol
[18:51] <Grievre> o.o
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[18:51] <IT_Sean> Don't quote me on this, but, i believe it is specific to that family of SoC.
[18:51] <pksato> Grievre: its is called PoP package on package.
[18:52] <Grievre> okay I know that
[18:52] <SpeedEvil> there are a number of 'standard' pop footprints
[18:52] <Grievre> I'm just wondering if the DRAM chips are made specifically for this particular CPU, or if there are multiple CPUs which can accept the same RAM
[18:53] <IT_Sean> I'm fairly sure that DRAM chip is made for Broadcom, and is not 'readily available' to use mere mortals.
[18:53] <Torikun> Diagnostic-Code: smtp; 530-5.5.1 Authentication Required. Learn more at 530
[18:53] <Torikun> maybe progress
[18:53] <TAFB_eatin> ohhh lookin better :)
[18:54] <TAFB_eatin> that means ssl is working, just the username and password just aren't gettin there.
[18:54] <Grievre> Torikun: probably requires some form of SMTP auth, like pop-before-smtp
[18:54] <TAFB_eatin> Grievre: I don't think att/yahoo uses pop before smtp.
[18:54] <Matt> does anyone still use pop-before-smtp?
[18:54] <Torikun> i am using gmail now for relay
[18:54] <nid0> Matt: yes, lots of mail services
[18:54] <Matt> really?
[18:54] <nid0> including ours
[18:54] <Torikun> TAFB_eatin: maybe I should add dyndns also as a sender in gmail
[18:55] <Matt> I thought most folk had moved to real smtp auth
[18:55] <TAFB_eatin> Torikun: nope
[18:55] <nid0> there's no real reason not to support it
[18:55] <TAFB_eatin> gmail will never see dyndns
[18:55] <Torikun> just .com
[18:55] <TAFB_eatin> did you see my message about it sending as root?
[18:55] <Torikun> no
[18:55] <Torikun> I am sending it from a user
[18:55] <TAFB_eatin> pfffttt
[18:55] <Torikun> since root not registered as gmail
[18:56] <TAFB_eatin> but your SMTP log, says "from root@rusherXXX.com"
[18:56] <Torikun> holy cow
[18:57] <Torikun> Dec 21 09:56:06 rasptv postfix/local[3676]: warning: database /etc/postfix/aliases.db is older than source file /etc/postfix/aliases
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[18:57] <Torikun> alias issue?
[18:58] <TAFB_eatin> no idea. Why don't you use Citadel for your e-mail serveR? lol
[18:58] <Torikun> lol
[18:58] <TAFB_eatin> lol
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[18:59] <Torikun> ok says rusher now
[18:59] <TAFB_eatin> that'll work better, lol
[18:59] <Torikun> same error
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[18:59] <TAFB_eatin> cause it's not providing the username and password
[18:59] <Torikun> yeah
[19:00] <TAFB_eatin> keep this link handy, incase you never get postfix working: http://ducky-pond.com/posts/9/
[19:00] <Torikun> ty
[19:00] <Torikun> looks awesome
[19:00] <TAFB_eatin> works amazing, the webmail part of it just rocks
[19:00] <Torikun> and easy
[19:00] <TAFB_eatin> it can even feed through apache
[19:01] <TAFB_eatin> yep, once it's installed, you config everything through your browser ;)
[19:01] <Torikun> think that will replace the other servers?
[19:01] <TAFB_eatin> no clue, I haven't set it up yet.
[19:01] <TAFB_eatin> i just got my vhosts problem fixed on my Pi, so I'll be workin on it today.
[19:02] <TAFB_eatin> as you can see, my status page is workin on port 80: http://tafb.yi.org/
[19:03] <TAFB_eatin> and one of my other sites goes to it's proper page on my pi: http://hawthornevalley.no-ip.info/
[19:03] <TAFB_eatin> woot :)
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[19:04] <Grievre> How many layers is the RPi's board?
[19:05] <TAFB_eatin> if you get the official schematic pdf (google) it's in there.
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[19:08] <Torikun> i think it worked
[19:09] <TAFB_eatin> impossible :) lol
[19:09] <TAFB_eatin> did you mail me?
[19:09] <Torikun> hold on
[19:09] <confusid> grrr now it stopped working again
[19:09] <Torikun> says sent to you
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[19:10] <TAFB_eatin> I got it, but said from phil@gmail.com on behalf of rusher@rusher.com
[19:10] <TAFB_eatin> but I think we can fix it
[19:10] <Torikun> dam lol
[19:10] <TAFB_eatin> AT LEAST YOU GOT IT WORKIN!
[19:10] <TAFB_eatin> woot.
[19:10] <TAFB_eatin> we can fix it
[19:10] <Torikun> lol
[19:10] <TAFB_eatin> plz hold.
[19:10] <TAFB_eatin> i can't believe you got it workin
[19:10] <Torikun> http://mhawthorne.net/posts/postfix-configuring-gmail-as-relay.html
[19:10] <Torikun> that helped
[19:11] <TAFB_eatin> ohhh nice
[19:11] <Torikun> now lets try sending from thunderbid
[19:11] <Torikun> relay access denied
[19:13] <TAFB_eatin> you must not have the correct SMTP settings in thunderbird, so get the mail to postfix
[19:13] <TAFB_eatin> to get the mail to...
[19:13] <Torikun> k
[19:13] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, it's 6 layers.
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[19:14] <Torikun> smtp server is rusher81572.dyndns.org
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[19:14] <TAFB_eatin> correct
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[19:15] <TAFB_eatin> enable "needs authentication", probably plaintext, username rusher@rusherxxx.com, password
[19:15] <TAFB_eatin> should work
[19:15] <Torikun> k
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[19:17] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: Neat.
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[19:17] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: almost a taco bell board
[19:17] <Toothpick> has anyone had any problems with Raspberry pi, xbmc and java?
[19:17] <Torikun> relay access denied
[19:18] <TAFB_eatin> Torikun: what type of authentication to you have on postfix? maybe you don't have it set up to allow relay from incoming SMTP?
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[19:19] <TAFB_eatin> put this link away from later, how to get around "on behalf of", it'a hack but it works: http://webapps.stackexchange.com/questions/4469/how-to-use-gmails-send-mail-as-with-another-gmail-account-through-smtp-withou
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[19:19] <Torikun> k
[19:20] <Torikun> got your email for the onbehalf
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[19:21] <TAFB_eatin> Torikun: wow, server's workin FAST
[19:21] <TAFB_eatin> i love running my own server :)
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[19:21] <TAFB> Torikun: in your /etc/postfix/main.cf files, what does your "my networks" line say
[19:22] <Torikun> mynetworks = 192.168.1.0/28, 127.0.0.0/8
[19:22] <TAFB> ok, so that's set to only allow relay from 127.0.0.0
[19:22] <Torikun> and 192.168.1.0/28
[19:22] <TAFB> that's why it works from postfix and not thunderbird
[19:23] <Torikun> what shoudl it be?
[19:23] <Torikun> it has 192.168.1.0/28, 127.0.0.0/8
[19:23] <Torikun> should allow all local
[19:23] <TAFB> it's set to only allow all "localhost" i.e. ONLY the Pi
[19:23] <Torikun> maybe since I am using thunderbid, it is not seen as local?
[19:23] <TAFB> right
[19:24] <Torikun> i should change it to dyndns?
[19:24] <TAFB> nope, hold on
[19:24] <TAFB> the problem is, if you open it, it'll allow your Pi to be a spam bot, we need to enable auth on it, then de-restrict it, one sec.
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[19:25] <TAFB> smtpd_sender_restrictions
[19:27] <TAFB> ok, remember, use extremem caution when doing this with a live internet connected Pi: mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8, 192.168.1.0/24
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[19:27] <TAFB> will allow all of the world to relay mail through your Pi.
[19:27] <Torikun> i had /8
[19:27] <Torikun> what is the diff
[19:27] <TAFB> you had them in the wrong order, so says this page :)
[19:28] <TAFB> smtpd_sender_restrictions = permit_sasl_authenticated, check_sender_access hash:/etc/postfix/sender_access, reject_non_fqdn_sender, reject_unknown_sender_domain
[19:28] <TAFB> smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, reject_unauth_destination, reject_unauth_pipelining
[19:28] <TAFB> smtpd_data_restrictions = reject_unauth_pipelining
[19:28] <TAFB> Torikun: check the last post in this page: http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-10400.html
[19:29] <Torikun> relay access denied
[19:29] <TAFB> he got his postfix to only relay with auth. The trick is, no auth needed for internal e-mail addresses, only auth needed to send to external addresses
[19:29] <Torikun> i did not do the restrictions yet
[19:29] <TAFB> see the page I linked
[19:29] <Torikun> I changed the hosts
[19:29] <Torikun> and relay access denied
[19:29] <TAFB> can you paste the error
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[19:30] <Torikun> The mail server responded: 5.7.1 your-email Relay Access denied
[19:31] <TAFB> ok, so that's postfix telling you it won't relay your message :)
[19:32] <TAFB> so you know it's a postfix config problem, gotta enable auth for the relay so thunderbird can log into postfix and relay
[19:32] <Torikun> yup lol
[19:32] <TAFB> did you look at the link ^^
[19:32] <Torikun> looking now
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[19:33] <Torikun> ok
[19:33] <Torikun> check this out
[19:33] <Torikun> my network is actually 192.168.1.X
[19:33] <Torikun> I modified mynetworks
[19:33] <Torikun> from 0 to 1
[19:33] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, I've no idea what a taco bell board is..
[19:33] <Torikun> now new error
[19:33] <TAFB> rofl! strange.
[19:33] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: 7 layers...
[19:34] <IT_Sean> lol
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[19:34] <Torikun> ERror occured while sending mail. Mail Server respodned 4.3.0 (your email addy) Temporary lookup failure
[19:34] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, 7 layers of pbc?
[19:34] <Torikun> please check recipient (your email)
[19:34] <TAFB> you HAVE to make sure it's using Auth... if you remove the username/password from your SMTP in thunderbird and it still sends mail to outside address (like gmail) that's super horrible.
[19:34] <IT_Sean> & layers of PCB would probably be tastier than anything TacoBell make
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[19:35] <TAFB> Torikun: hmmm. you were trying to send to me, or your gmail?
[19:35] <kkuno> hi
[19:35] <Torikun> i tried both
[19:35] <Torikun> same error
[19:35] <kkuno> I have some questions:
[19:35] <TAFB> Torikun: I see, it's almost like postfix isn't doing dns lookup for the email domain.
[19:35] <gordonDrogon> I've just googled. taco bell appears to sell food..
[19:35] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: it's a lie.
[19:35] <Torikun> works locally....weird
[19:36] <gordonDrogon> TAFB, sounds like it :)
[19:36] <TAFB> Torikun: because it doesn't do lookups for local ;)
[19:36] <kkuno> If I order the rpi alone, it can't boot right? I need to buy an external sd right?
[19:36] <IT_Sean> gordonDrogon: nope. It isn't food.
[19:36] <gordonDrogon> kkuno, yes, you need SD card.
[19:36] <gordonDrogon> I've never been to a taco bell.
[19:36] <gordonDrogon> I don't even think they have them in the UK.
[19:36] <IT_Sean> gordonDrogon: Lucky.
[19:36] <kkuno> ok.. second: can it power an external 2.5 usb hard drive?
[19:36] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: when I had to have my rectal exam, the doctor said I could eat this crappy chalk stuff for a day, or eat taco bell for two days, either would suffice!
[19:37] <IT_Sean> kkuno: the Raspi board has an SD card slot. It does not come with an SD card, though. You will need to supply an SD card w/ an OS on it.
[19:37] <IT_Sean> And for something like a harddrive, you will need a powered hub.
[19:37] <kkuno> ok
[19:38] <TAFB> Torikun: sent you mails
[19:39] <Torikun> did not get it yet...
[19:39] <TAFB> 3 .... 2.... 1....
[19:39] <Grievre> So if I want to talk to the raspberry pi via serial, I have to level shift yeah?
[19:39] <IT_Sean> ja
[19:39] <mbalho> can you do serial on any of the gpio pins?
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[19:39] <gordonDrogon> mbalho, yes.
[19:39] <Torikun> Dec 21 10:38:40 rusher postfix/smtpd[5242]: warning: non-null host address bits in "192.168.1.1/24", perhaps you should use "192.168.1.0/24" instead
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[19:39] <Torikun> Dec 21 10:38:40 rusher postfix/smtpd[5242]: disconnect from 76-220-9-159.lightspeed.sntcca.sbcglobal.net[76.220.9.159]
[19:40] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, unless it's a 3.3v device...
[19:40] <mbalho> gordonDrogon: cool thanks
[19:40] <Grievre> I just want to get a shell on this thing long enough to enable ssh ;_;
[19:40] <gordonDrogon> mbalho, there is one serial port - tx & rx only at 3.3v
[19:40] <Torikun> now back to relay access denided TAFB
[19:40] <dr_willis> sad i threw out a dumb-serial terminal years ago.. I coul fit it into the pi and have a.. err.. smart serial terminal. ;)
[19:40] <Grievre> unfortunately I have nothing that takes HDMI and the composit video cuts off the sides of the screen
[19:40] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, do you have another linux box you can read/write the SD card on?
[19:40] <TAFB> Torikun: damn. check this link: http://www.tuxradar.com/answers/209
[19:41] <IT_Sean> Grievre: did you check your overscan settings?
[19:41] <Grievre> IT_Sean: ?
[19:41] <biberao> yo
[19:41] <biberao> !!
[19:41] <mbalho> gordonDrogon: oh tx/rx are specific pins? ill look up a pinout
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, ah, turn off overscal in /boot/config.txt
[19:41] <biberao> my pi is sad
[19:41] <biberao> :|
[19:41] <gordonDrogon> mbalho, you have 26 pins - yes, they're all specific...
[19:41] <TAFB> biberao: maybe it needs to be cooked
[19:41] <IT_Sean> Grievre: what gordonDrogon said. In the /boot/config there is an overscan setting
[19:41] <biberao> TAFB: yup
[19:41] <biberao> my sd card class 6 doesnt work
[19:41] <biberao> either on pi nor on linux pc
[19:42] <TAFB> biberao: bummer, you were getting a new card right?
[19:42] <gordonDrogon> get a new SD card then...
[19:42] <Grievre> IT_Sean gordonDrogon: so let me recap... I said I can't get a usable shell, and so to fix this problem you suggest a solution that requires having a usable shell
[19:42] <Grievre> if I had a usable shell to do that in the first place I wouldn't have a problem to solve!
[19:42] <biberao> TAFB: ya
[19:42] <biberao> tomorrow maybe
[19:42] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, you said you had a display...
[19:42] <biberao> gordonDrogon: its quite expensive
[19:42] <biberao> ive tried 4
[19:42] <biberao> :P
[19:42] <IT_Sean> you said the display was cut off
[19:42] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, sort of implied that you have a keyboard too.
[19:42] <TAFB> biberao: hopefully it solves all your problems. Sandisk Extreme?
[19:42] * IT_Sean is done helping Grievre
[19:42] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: yes, I can't exactly edit a config file when I can't see the leftmost columns of the screen
[19:42] <nid0> you can edit /boot/config.txt from anywhere anyway
[19:42] <biberao> TAFB: 2 verbatim
[19:43] <Grievre> IT_Sean: you have no sense of humor :<
[19:43] <nid0> you dont need to do it on your pi.
[19:43] <biberao> and two unknown
[19:43] <Grievre> IT_Sean: thanks anyway!
[19:43] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, tweak the controls on your TV...
[19:43] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: oh I wish the TV was that nice...
[19:43] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, then take the SD card out, edit it in another PC.
[19:43] <biberao> why rca image is so ugly
[19:43] <biberao> compared to tv signal?
[19:43] <Grievre> well I'm just gonna see if I can't do something
[19:43] <viric> rca is fine. Commodore times.
[19:43] <biberao> my tv signal rocks compared to it
[19:43] <viric> at least pixels aren't squares.
[19:44] <TAFB> biberao: did you look at the Pi compatibility list? I thought a ton of verbatim cards were incompatible?
[19:44] <biberao> is there a way to improve it?
[19:44] <biberao> TAFB: didnt check
[19:44] <TAFB> ummm, lol?
[19:44] <biberao> TAFB: i didnt buy it
[19:44] <TAFB> ahhh
[19:44] <TAFB> i'll link ya up the list
[19:44] <gordonDrogon> ah well. time to cook.
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[19:45] <TAFB> biberao: http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals
[19:45] <TAFB> at the bottom
[19:48] <biberao> so bad for me then
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[19:49] <biberao> i dont have those bigger
[19:49] <biberao> cards
[19:49] <biberao> llo
[19:50] <TAFB> biberao: where you live?
[19:50] <Torikun> .xxx>: Recipient address rejected: Relay access denied; from=<rusher@rusher81572.com>
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[19:50] <mikey_w> Yes
[19:50] <Grievre> Okay so overscan is disabled already
[19:50] <mikey_w> opps
[19:50] <Grievre> (disable_overscan = 1)
[19:50] <TAFB> Torikun: is it using auth for your SMTP, username/password.
[19:50] <Grievre> oh wait I want it enabled
[19:50] <Grievre> right
[19:50] <Torikun> password
[19:51] <Torikun> password security none
[19:51] <biberao> TAFB: portugal
[19:51] <biberao> ive tried badblocks and it didnt find erros
[19:51] <biberao> on the card
[19:51] <TAFB> Torikun: probably need SSL or TLS or plaintext
[19:51] <TAFB> not none
[19:51] <Torikun> it is using plaintext
[19:51] <TAFB> biberao: all, good luck with your search.
[19:51] <TAFB> Torikun: did you look at http://www.tuxradar.com/answers/209
[19:52] <Torikun> yeah
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[19:52] <Grievre> Okay that made it a /little/ better
[19:52] <Grievre> gordonDrogon, IT_Sean: thanks for the overscan suggestion
[19:52] <IT_Sean> No problem.
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[19:53] <mueslee> hey
[19:53] <TAFB> Torikun: you can't give up now, that's the last thing you need to make it work (as well as making sure people can't relay through your server WITHOUT auth)!!?! :) unfortunatly, with me not knowing postfix at all, or thunderbird, I can't tell you the recipe for the magic sauce.
[19:53] <mueslee> i want to run cryptsetup via luks on raspbmc
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[19:54] <mueslee> is that possible without recompiling the kernel?
[19:54] <Torikun> lol
[19:54] <Torikun> ty for al lyour help
[19:54] <Torikun> i appreciate it
[19:54] <Torikun> came a long wasy
[19:54] <biberao> thanks TAFB
[19:54] <TAFB> no probs Torikun. you're super close.
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[19:56] <Grievre> Heh, even with the config change, a little bit of the left side is cut off
[19:56] <Grievre> but at least now the top and bottom aren't
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[19:59] <mueslee> hmm
[20:00] <dr_willis> this is on an analog crt tv? or a lcd?
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[20:02] <Grievre> dr_willis: Sanyo CRT that looks like it's from the early to mid 90s
[20:02] <Grievre> I opened it up to repair the RCA jacks and it's an entirely single-sided thru-hole board
[20:02] <Grievre> as far as I can tell
[20:03] <IT_Sean> People still use CRT TVs?
[20:03] <Grievre> but it has OSD
[20:03] <Grievre> IT_Sean: I needed something to plug my sega genesis into
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[20:03] <Grievre> since I didn't own anything that can take composite or RF in
[20:03] <Grievre> This was free!
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[20:04] <mueslee> root@raspbmc:/home/pi# cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sda1 archive/
[20:04] <mueslee> /dev/mapper/control: open failed: No such device
[20:04] <mueslee> Failure to communicate with kernel device-mapper driver.
[20:04] <mueslee> Check that device-mapper is available in the kernel.
[20:04] <mueslee> Cannot initialize device-mapper. Is dm_mod kernel module loaded?
[20:05] <mueslee> can anybody give me a hint what i'm supposed to do?
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[20:05] <viric> is this a udev system?
[20:05] <mueslee> yeah well. dm_mod is *not* loaded :)
[20:05] <mueslee> it's just an usb device on /dev/sda1
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[20:06] <dr_willis> I still had some BIG heavy CRT TVs out in the garrage. :) finally gave them away.
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[20:06] <dr_willis> I really should have kept my CRT C64 monitors. ;( they were handy.
[20:06] <viric> mueslee: maybe it's not loaded but it's in the kernel
[20:06] <dr_willis> but a bit small.. but still good for VCR and other testing.
[20:07] <viric> linux is complicated these days.
[20:07] <dRbiG> dr_willis: it's so difficult nowadays to get rid of the crt monitors
[20:08] <IT_Sean> Indeed
[20:09] <dr_willis> I got sick of hurting my back moving the tvs around. :) finally gave them to a inlaw that kept getting his lcd tvs stolen. ;) no one is going to steal a 50+LB tv..
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[20:09] <IT_Sean> Wanna bet?
[20:09] <viric> difficult?
[20:10] <IT_Sean> what do you think theives stole before LCDs?
[20:10] <dr_willis> i had them for 'free' on the rummage sale and no one wanted them. ;)
[20:11] <mueslee> viric: i added it to /etc/modules
[20:11] <mueslee> but that didn't change anything
[20:12] <mueslee> -> http://forum.stmlabs.com/showthread.php?tid=1310
[20:12] <mueslee> that describes my issue very well
[20:12] <mueslee> but no solution has been found yet
[20:12] <mueslee> "recompile kernel".... :/
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[20:13] <dr_willis> Heh. if i had those OLD CRT tvs i could fit a pi inside one.. with room to spare. ;)
[20:14] <pksato> some guy do it do play old TV programs.
[20:14] <viric> room to spare with 25KV around
[20:14] <pksato> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1721
[20:15] <dr_willis> going to try to fit one in my HanHo Arcade controller for MAME ussage.. then i noticed the beating that controller was taking from the kids... Not sure the pi could survive the shakeing and thumping. ;)
[20:15] <Gr33n3gg> put my script, that reads an NES controller for use with an emulator, up on github https://github.com/snacsnoc/nes-keypress
[20:16] <dr_willis> actually you can use a wii controller with bluettooth cant you? :) that may be ok for the kids.
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[20:53] <xkx> hi
[20:53] <opieng> Anyone have any ideas on a cheap screen for the Raspberry Pi?
[20:54] <IT_Sean> fleebay
[20:54] <IT_Sean> you want a small one?
[20:54] <xkx> any ideas why 'free' command show that my raspberry pi contain 183mb ram though i ordered 512mb version?
[20:54] <xkx> shows*
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[20:55] <opieng> any size is fine, the cheaper the better :)
[20:55] <opieng> xkx, not sure? what OS you using?
[20:55] <xkx> i have installed arch arm linux on it and i do not know if this can be some configuration issue
[20:55] <pksato> xkx: outdated firmware and kernel, or half/half cpu/gpu memory split.
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[20:56] <xkx> also, safety seal was broken so i am little worried
[20:56] <Grievre> opieng: free CRT from your local junkyard
[20:57] <opieng> xkx, ohh really? Thats not good
[20:57] <pksato> xkx: need do upgrade firmware and kernel.
[20:57] <opieng> Grievre, can you connect the pi to a CRT?
[20:58] <Grievre> opieng: it has a composite output
[20:58] <mrmoney2012> is a rasppi NAS good enough for streaming HD video ?
[20:58] <MIG-> has anyone here looked at Richard's servoblaster ?
[20:58] <MIG-> specifically the division/timing granularity for the pulse width
[20:58] <MIG-> he sets the pwm clock to be clk_reg[PWMCLK_DIV] = 0x5A000000 | (32<<12); // set pwm div to 32 (19.2MHz/32 = 600KHz)
[20:58] <MIG-> then the comment below says pwm_reg[PWM_RNG1] = tick_scale; // 600KHz/6 = 10us per FIFO write
[20:58] <MIG-> but I don't get how 600KHz / 6 = 10 us
[20:58] <xkx> opieng: yeah. but i do not want to send it back to rs and wait some more weeks
[20:59] <opieng> I see, if you bought it from RS I would be suprised if its been tampered with
[20:59] <Grievre> MIG-: what's 600kHz / 6?
[20:59] <xkx> pksato: thanks. i updated system with 'pacman -Syu' but forgot to reboot system.
[20:59] <xkx> silly me, problems fixed. ;)
[20:59] <MIG-> Grievre: I get 277us
[20:59] <nid0> sounds just like you're using an old firmware that only sees 256mb, and you have a 64mb gpu split
[20:59] <Grievre> MIG-: what?
[20:59] <Grievre> MIG-: 600 kHz / 6 is 100 kHz
[21:00] <pksato> xkx: check date of files on /boot
[21:00] <MIG-> fuck me
[21:00] <Grievre> MIG-: what's the inverse of 100 kHz?
[21:00] <MIG-> lol, thanks for the math lesson
[21:00] <Grievre> ?
[21:00] <MIG-> I'm stupid :)
[21:00] <MIG-> sorry to waste your time
[21:00] <Grievre> I'm curious where 277 came from
[21:00] <MIG-> lol
[21:01] <MIG-> ((1/60000)/6)/(10^(-9))
[21:01] <Grievre> yeah you want * 6, not / 6
[21:01] <xkx> i just rebooted system and everything is fixed now. :)
[21:01] <MIG-> or rather ((1/600000)/6)/(10^(-9))
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[21:01] <MIG-> k
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[21:07] <frikinz> mueslee: did you find a solution? I had in the idea to access my luks from raspbian. While I do have DM in the kernel, eh I don't have cryptsetup
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[21:07] <frikinz> ah wrong, I need to update
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[21:11] <gordonDrogon> cooking - in-progress. waiting on timer...
[21:12] <frikinz> still cooking, already had the time to eat :)
[21:13] <gordonDrogon> and we're on flood alert - again.
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[21:13] <nid0> sounds like fun
[21:14] <gordonDrogon> MIG-, I have some experimental code to drive servos from userland - won't be nearly as stable as the kernel servoblaster though. However I'ce not had a chance to test it on real servos yet, just a 'scope.
[21:14] <gordonDrogon> xkx, linux uses free ram for buffers, etc. check the output of 'top' too.
[21:15] <MIG-> gordonDrogon: the servoblaster is awesome. It uses the DMA and PWM hardware so that no CPU is required.
[21:15] <MIG-> if you need help setting it up let me know
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[21:16] <frikinz> mueslee: it'll probably not help you but FIY, raspbian kernel and userspace has all for luks, lvm and it works???
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[21:17] <gordonDrogon> MIG-, yes, I know how it works! But if it's that awesome, why do people keep asking me for servo control...
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[21:17] <MIG-> ?
[21:17] <gordonDrogon> I don't know either!
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[21:17] <gordonDrogon> I point them to servoblaster...
[21:17] <MIG-> maybe they don't understand
[21:18] <MIG-> I've chatted with the developer. He recently implemented a requested feature of mine. A timer that "disables" the servo after a timeout
[21:18] <MIG-> very useful, stopped my motors from burning
[21:18] <MIG-> I knew you name sounded familiar gordonDrogon, you "ported" some arduino code to the pi :)
[21:19] <MIG-> thanks !
[21:19] <gordonDrogon> MIG-, Ported is an intersting turn of phrase...
[21:19] <MIG-> hehe
[21:19] <gordonDrogon> MIG-, I actually wrote my own wiring library for the arduino and it's essentially that which I've re-implented on the Pi.
[21:19] <IT_Sean> gordonDrogon has honarary god (with a lowercase 'g') status around here, amongst the raspi community.
[21:19] <MIG-> I see
[21:19] <gordonDrogon> er ...
[21:20] <IT_Sean> :p
[21:20] <gordonDrogon> and I keep adding to it.
[21:20] <IT_Sean> (and i know i misspelt that)
[21:20] <gordonDrogon> one day I'll release all my arduino stuff too...
[21:20] <gordonDrogon> it's 'arduino from the command-line'
[21:20] <gordonDrogon> complete with a real-time tack scheduller...
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[21:20] <gordonDrogon> so much software, so little time.
[21:20] <MIG-> oh, I like the sound of that
[21:20] <MIG-> real-time task scheduler for the pi ?
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> no, arduino.
[21:21] <MIG-> ok :)
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> we already have one for the pi - Linux... :)
[21:21] <IT_Sean> The Pi hasn't got an RTC, so...
[21:21] <IT_Sean> ... how would that even work?
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> real-time vs wall clock time - 2 different things...
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> back in 5 - oven timer just rang.
[21:21] <IT_Sean> Indeed
[21:21] <MIG-> clock vs. scheduler also different
[21:21] <MIG-> k
[21:21] * _ds_ has found RISC OS as crashable as ever ???
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[21:22] <IT_Sean> _ds_: could be worse. Could be windows. :p
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> another 5 or 6 mins.
[21:22] <rockband> Hi all
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[21:22] <IT_Sean> gordonDrogon: watcha cookin'?
[21:22] <MIG-> gordonDrogon: have you played with SPI PI <-> arduino ?
[21:23] <gordonDrogon> I have a shortbread base in the oven for some millionair shortbread...
[21:23] <gordonDrogon> doing the sweets & biscuits for the party on monday.
[21:23] <rockband> anyone has any ideas for raspberry compatrible LCDs?
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[21:23] <rockband> possibly from old electronics
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[21:23] <gordonDrogon> rockband, video, or like this? https://projects.drogon.net/4d-systems-intelligent-displays-and-the-raspberry-pi/
[21:24] <rockband> video
[21:24] <gordonDrogon> those can play video, but only from the on-board SD card..
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[21:25] <gordonDrogon> I use a small LCD TV as a display for one of my Pi's... what sort of size are you after?
[21:25] <pksato> rockband: what kind of LCDs?
[21:25] <rockband> I want someting thats compatible with xmbc
[21:26] <rockband> and provides goodq uality
[21:26] <pksato> all hdmi input LCD monitor or tv.
[21:27] <gordonDrogon> I'm impressed with the one I have - it's only 720p though, 16" screen.
[21:27] <rockband> ok I see, you knwo of any 3-7 LCds?
[21:27] <gordonDrogon> I don't use it for day to day work though.
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[21:29] <rockband> that demo display module looks very interesting
[21:29] <gordonDrogon> the one on my site?
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[21:29] <rockband> yes
[21:30] <pksato> for video playback. need a GPU bridged display.
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[21:30] <rockband> I could use that for another project
[21:30] <gordonDrogon> you program the display with the objects, etc. on it, then it's controlled via high-level commands from the Pi.
[21:30] <gordonDrogon> so all the sliders, buttons, etc. are all handled by the display itself.
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[21:30] <gordonDrogon> pi just gets a meddage "button X pushed", "slider Y to position Z", etc.
[21:31] <rockband> is it just x,y positions???
[21:31] <rockband> or object oritented?
[21:31] <gordonDrogon> no - it's anything.
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[21:31] <rockband> ok I see
[21:31] <gordonDrogon> the touchscreen returns the settings of the objects - not the xy location on the screen.
[21:32] <gordonDrogon> have a look at this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eYmtc3by3k fast forward about 2/3 through to see it working on the Pi.
[21:32] <gordonDrogon> go to 14:30
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> probably the most expensive desk calculator going :)
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[21:35] <gordonDrogon> you use a GUI designer that runs unde Windows (alas) to program the objects on the display in the first place. it's all very clever.
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[21:37] <rockband> cool thanks.
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[21:41] <gordonDrogon> MIG-, sorry - didn't notice that last Q.. I've used SPI on the Pi, yes, but not to talk to Arduino. Serial is OK for what I'm doing for now.
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[21:41] <MIG-> gordonDrogon: I used it in the past and obtained strange behavior when working with the raspberry pi SPI driver.
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> MIG-, Hm. Seemed ok for me - there are some latency issues with it, but I've not noticed any glitches.
[21:42] <MIG-> If I remember correctly, I wasn't able to get a message length > 1 to transfer well
[21:42] <MIG-> Memory could serve me wrong
[21:42] <MIG-> oh, I remember, it worked with arduino but was strange with the msp430
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> the A/D on the Gertboard need 2 bytes sent, 3 come back... PiFace needs 3 bytes I think.
[21:43] <MIG-> probably due to my lack of understanding
[21:43] <MIG-> What do you do for a day job if you don't mind me asking gordonDrogon ?
[21:43] <gordonDrogon> I'm self employed.
[21:43] <MIG-> contract or small business ?
[21:43] <gordonDrogon> http://drogon.net/ is the usual geek page of nothinness :)
[21:44] <gordonDrogon> sort of both.
[21:44] <gordonDrogon> I manage a small nunmber of servers doing stuff for clients - some webbys, small/medium companies who want custom hosted stuff and I do a little contract sysadmin and software.
[21:44] <gordonDrogon> bit of VoIP too.
[21:45] <MIG-> Cool, did you work for a company in a former life ?
[21:45] <gordonDrogon> sure.
[21:45] <gordonDrogon> I've been self employed for about 11 years now.
[21:45] <gordonDrogon> and I was 50 recently ;-)
[21:46] <MIG-> congrats
[21:46] <x42> ack
[21:46] <MIG-> hehe
[21:46] <gordonDrogon> it's all good fun!
[21:46] <MIG-> graduating someday, I like the idea of self employment
[21:46] <gordonDrogon> well, most of the time.
[21:46] <MIG-> gotta find a niche/clients I suppose
[21:46] <gordonDrogon> the usual phrase is "don't give up the day job" ... :)
[21:46] <MIG-> mostly word of mouth ?
[21:46] <gordonDrogon> yup - it's finding that niche.
[21:46] <gordonDrogon> yea, mostly word of mouth.
[21:47] <gordonDrogon> and you get the occasional lucky break.
[21:47] <gordonDrogon> I still have people I was working with 15 years ago contact me for the odd little job...
[21:47] <gordonDrogon> and I've been plesantly surprised at the reactions my Pi stuff has been getting.
[21:48] <MIG-> Do you stay in your realm of knowledge or would you say, setup a openstack system for a client (assuming that is out of your past skillset)
[21:48] <gordonDrogon> I didn't set out to make money out of the Pi, but I've made a little.
[21:49] <gordonDrogon> mostly stay in my comfort zone, but do occasionally push the boat out - e.g. learning a stupid amount about VoIP a few years back when I thought it woud be the "thing"...
[21:49] <gordonDrogon> (it's not, use Skypeee!)
[21:49] <MIG-> lol
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[21:49] <MIG-> I've learned a bit of that lesson from trying to do video streams
[21:49] <gordonDrogon> so that's currently a but of a burden - people don't like having their phones cut-off with no notice...
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[21:49] <MIG-> true
[21:50] <gordonDrogon> I'll get rid of the VoIP, but it'll take another few years.
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[21:50] <gordonDrogon> same for the hosting - I'm in 2 minds about it right now. I have one client I'm managing 6 servers for and if I persuade them to leave, then I'll cut it right back.
[21:51] <gordonDrogon> but I might make them a new offer next month.. not decided yet.
[21:52] <MIG-> cheaper to rent amazon servers or the like ?
[21:54] <gordonDrogon> not really.
[21:54] <gordonDrogon> he's just a PITA customer :)
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[21:54] <gordonDrogon> far too cheap - I helped get him going 8 years ago when he was a startup - and he's still a "startup" .. )-:
[21:54] <confusid> I like m5 hosting cloud lol
[21:55] <gordonDrogon> I like knowing where my data is...
[21:55] <MIG-> understandable
[21:55] <nid0> tbh thats not really much of a concern with actual research into providers, even with the big names
[21:55] <gordonDrogon> if I host it, I don't have adverts to wade throuh, or referral programs, etc. to get 2GB more and so on..
[21:56] <gordonDrogon> nid0, sure - if paying for it - I was thinking of other stuff like dropbox that my clients seem to like using.
[21:57] <gordonDrogon> An option I'm toying with for this client is that they buy some virtusl servers off someone else, then just pay me to admin them.
[21:57] <frikinz> I'm beginning to like dropbox as they have a good working sync client for linux. my git repositories are in it
[21:57] <nid0> well yea, dumping business data onto a free service is always gonna be questionable :P dropbox uses s3 though, so uk customers' data will almost guaranteed be in dublin
[21:57] <gordonDrogon> frikinz, I know - I've been using it recently with the 4d systems people, but it nags me :)
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[21:58] <nid0> its something we get asked on a semi regular basis regarding our cloud, but the fact that a lot of our service is now cloud-based doesnt change that its still hosted on storage just outside of london, and backed up to germany
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[21:59] <teh_orph> yo
[21:59] <gordonDrogon> tv time. have I got news for you now - laters!
[22:00] <frikinz> yes. most of my dropbox stuffs are in a luks encrypted container.
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[22:03] <warddr> Hello, does anyone know how I can set the hardware clock of my raspberry pi, it's 1970 now...
[22:03] <warddr> or has this something to do with the end of the earth today
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[22:05] <viric> is there a hardware clock?
[22:05] <_ds_> # date --set ???
[22:05] <viric> without battery?
[22:05] <viric> hwclocks require some pump
[22:06] <_ds_> Maybe one's been added to that particular rpi.
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[22:06] <Holden> warddr, http://www.linuxuser.co.uk/tutorials/how-to-set-up-raspberry-pi, look at point 15
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[22:12] <warddr> and will that automatically be permanent?
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[22:15] <Cykey> Guys, how can I know if I have a version 1 or version 2 Pi?
[22:16] <IT_Sean> warddr: The clock will reset if the Pi looses power.
[22:16] <warddr> and is there a way to write it to the hardwareclock?
[22:16] <IT_Sean> If it's got an etwork connection, it can set the time via NTP, though.
[22:16] <[SLB]> Cykey, cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep Revision
[22:16] <[SLB]> 000f is rev2
[22:16] <Cykey> I see
[22:17] <IT_Sean> warddr: the Pi does not have an RTC... It has to either be set manually or get time via NTP when you plug it in. It has no way to 'keep time' when it's off.
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[22:17] <warddr> It is connected to the internet
[22:17] <frikinz> and which image did you burn?
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[22:18] <frikinz> warddr: ^
[22:18] <warddr> arch linux
[22:19] <warddr> but there is a problem with the dhcp I think, by default I only get a V6, I have to run "dhcpcd eth0" manually
[22:22] <frikinz> humm http://paste.debian.net/218159/
[22:22] <IT_Sean> That could do it. Once it has a connection to The Internet, it /should/ grab the correct time from an NTP server, i believe
[22:22] <frikinz> task kworker/0:1:30224 blocked for more than 120 seconds
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[22:25] <frikinz> bcm2708_vcio: mbox chan 8 overflow - drop 4ea28008
[22:29] <frikinz> what's this mailbox fifo again?
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[22:31] * _ds_ notes that revision 000e is also RPi v2
[22:31] <frikinz> so the kernel is dead, a lot of kernel threads hung, needs a reboot
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[22:32] <viric> what is the cpu of the raspberrypi, for "-mcpu" in gcc?
[22:36] <frikinz> I think that's sufficient: -march=armv6 -mfloat-abi=hard -mfpu=vfp
[22:36] <frikinz> viric: ^
[22:36] <viric> no -mcpu
[22:36] <viric> ok
[22:36] <frikinz> viric: which toolchain do you use. self buit?
[22:36] <frikinz> built
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[22:40] <Aranel> Is there any way to reboot a frozen Pi (on Raspbmc)? I pulled the plug and it gave me a nice Kernel Panic, looks like fs got corrupted
[22:41] <frikinz> Aranel: you can't ping it?
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[22:42] <Aranel> frikinz: in fact on a second thought, It got corrupted when It got froze and I issued sudo reboot
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[22:42] <Aranel> then a kernel panic, and I pulled the plug.
[22:42] <Aranel> so since I could issue a sudo reboot over SSH, yes I could do that.
[22:43] * _ds_ is guessing that fsck needs to be run???
[22:43] <viric> frikinz: yes, I'm building one.
[22:43] <frikinz> so now, nothing responding? there could be the magic sysreq to sync at least
[22:44] <viric> frikinz: it's been clear that -mcpu=arm6 doesn't work :)
[22:44] <_ds_> arm6 is armv3
[22:44] <frikinz> yeah good naming conventions again
[22:44] <viric> that sounds like a possible reason.
[22:44] <Aranel> frikinz: just the Raspbmc logo with kernel panic message
[22:45] <viric> yes, damn naming conventions.
[22:45] <Aranel> frikinz: maybe It's because I set the Raspbmc speed to Super
[22:45] <frikinz> Aranel: but do you have an ssh connection to it or a tty or anything you can type?
[22:45] <viric> Today I had to write iostreams code again, and atheism! how much I hate iostream::bad() not being !iostream::good()
[22:45] <_ds_> Aranel, stick the SD card in a card reader in something else, run fsck, set options there?
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[22:46] <Aranel> _ds_: frikinz: I'll reformat it since I installed it hours ago and clock it down to Fast. If it persists I'll fsck it on my PC
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[22:46] <frikinz> I'm refusing any project in c++ as much as I can. after doing c++ for years
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[22:47] <viric> frikinz: you aren't likely working as a c++ programmer
[22:47] <frikinz> Aranel: why format it? you don't have any linux machine?
[22:48] <frikinz> viric: no, never really was doing high level c++. it worked but was nothing fancy :)
[22:48] <Aranel> frikinz: I was furious so already started reformatting :(
[22:48] <frikinz> viric: bit of boost, bit of poco, std a lot, ... god I can't hear this anymore :)
[22:48] <Aranel> I'm just wondering if it's a compatibility issue or something about Turbo mode
[22:48] <Aranel> but looks like no way to learn that anymore :)
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[22:51] <viric> yes, I dislike how all that c++ thing ended up
[22:51] <viric> I find printf and scanf very comfortable, and they are *not* there.
[22:51] <frikinz> viric: I was lazy, I used this already built toolchain https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools.git . just rebuilt latencytop to remove gtk. worked ok
[22:52] <viric> frikinz: I'm porting a linux distribution, and I build the toolchains 'our way' :)
[22:52] <viric> - it's all quite automatic and under control.
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[22:54] <frikinz> and no surprise, with a bit of traffic (less than a 5Kbps) I get latency on usb_start_wait_urb and dev_ioctl
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[23:03] <pksato> I find a very nice display to RPi :) http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/9016/021221192553.jpg
[23:03] <pksato> I found.
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[23:10] <confusid> I'm having issues with motion working then not working. Has anyone used this for a web cam?
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[23:12] <mhz> i do confusid
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[23:13] <mhz> at least on the pi i have, zoneminder on other
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[23:14] <confusid> I followed what I found on google and it worked no issue, yesterday... Today it works not works..
[23:14] <pksato> errors?
[23:14] <confusid> when I start it it say's it is running but it cant find the video0 but then it can find it.
[23:14] <confusid> only when it doesn't see the web cam
[23:14] <mhz> being used by another device? what does kernel say?
[23:14] <pksato> codec in use?
[23:15] <mhz> sorry, not device, app
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[23:15] <mhz> see what syslog is reporting, kernel reporting, etc
[23:15] <pksato> motion start before webcam ?
[23:15] <axion> anyone hack with Dispmanx here?
[23:16] <axion> i'm looking for more information on how element_add functions
[23:16] <confusid> http://pastebin.com/2JKkVqdT
[23:16] <confusid> dmesg output for it.
[23:16] <confusid> I think motion does start up before webcam
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[23:16] <confusid> It's not running as a daemon. I use sudo motion /home/confusid/.motion/motion.conf
[23:17] <pksato> model of webcam?
[23:17] <confusid> this is the motion.conf I made http://pastebin.com/5H3W2Kwz
[23:17] <confusid> it is a c270 logitech
[23:19] <confusid> the vl42 not sure if it needs to be 6 or 8
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[23:38] <confusid> >< ok.. now it works well...
[23:38] <confusid> again was the configuration
[23:38] <TAFB> why would the Pi people use a 16v cap for C6? why not a 6v???
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[23:45] <pksato> cost?
[23:45] <viric> grmbl
[23:45] <TAFB> would a 6v cap cost less than a 16v? lol
[23:45] <viric> libgcc.a(_udivdi3.o): compiled for a little endian system and target is big endian
[23:45] <gordonDrogon> a nice evenings entertainement.
[23:46] <viric> I've a wrong triplet I guess
[23:46] <pksato> "return to scale" are a funny things.
[23:47] <frikinz> viric: yeah. arm little, big, .. hum fun
[23:47] <viric> I blame uclibc... I've it configured for big endian somehow
[23:48] <TAFB> I'm upgrading my C6 and plan to use a 6.3v cap, just wanted to make sure it wasn't going to explode or something, cause the stock one is 16v
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[23:49] <gordonDrogon> is C6 the one on the input power?
[23:49] <TAFB> yep, the one by microUSB connector
[23:49] * gordonDrogon nods.
[23:49] <gordonDrogon> do you need to upgrade it?
[23:50] <pksato> My rpi have a 1000uF x 6.3V "hooked" on gpio pins 4 and 6.
[23:50] <TAFB> yep, my friend connect his o-scope to find out why my Pi was rebooting when I was plugging in various devices. C6 is too slow and too small to prevent a super quick drop out of the voltage, making the Pi reboot.
[23:50] <gordonDrogon> I'd not personally hot-plug something big into the GPIO..
[23:51] <gordonDrogon> why not just add another under the USB sockets?
[23:51] <frikinz> viric: http://pastebin.com/YZ4fd4uB
[23:51] <TAFB> pksato: NICE! Does that stop the drop out?
[23:51] <pksato> TAFB: perlaps.
[23:51] <TAFB> I have a lot of space near GPIO, over raspberry logo, could put a BIG cap.
[23:51] <frikinz> viric: well,that's for buildroot
[23:51] <TAFB> pksato: did you use tantalum?
[23:52] <gordonDrogon> then you might have issues connecting it to the +5v - although there's tp1 & tp2 ..
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[23:52] <gordonDrogon> think I'd still want it as close to the usb sockets as possible.
[23:52] <pksato> perhaps "My inghish are very crap" :)
[23:52] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: it's more to protect the cpu, not the usb ;)
[23:53] <pksato> TAFB: normal electrolic 105
[23:53] <TAFB> pksato: lol. Does the cap look funny like this: http://s.eeweb.com/members/andrew_carter/blog/2011/11/27/typeofcapacitor-5-1322423426.jpg
[23:53] <pksato> no.
[23:53] <TAFB> pksato: ahhh. My friend with the o-scope says they are too slow, don't even conform to USB spec ;)
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[23:54] <TAFB> pksato: I was going to use this one, just lay it over RG2: http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/TAP337K006CCS/478-1898-ND/564001
[23:54] <viric> frikinz: ok ok. I've to configure uclibc
[23:54] <viric> thx, but little help :)
[23:54] <TAFB> pksato: I was also going to upgrade RG2 to a better regulator, have you done that?
[23:54] <pksato> and, I soldered asorted smd cap. on USB hub ports.
[23:54] <gordonDrogon> TAFB, sure, but if it's plugging something into the usb that crowbars it, then putting the cap close to the USB will help more.
[23:55] <pksato> TAFB: no.
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[23:55] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: possibly, I'd rather the USB suffer and it hold the current for the CPU though. I'd even re-poly fuse the usb ports to assure that happened.
[23:55] <pksato> Rev 2 have a C23?
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[23:55] <TAFB> pksato: does not :(
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[23:58] <TAFB> pksato: my friend has a very powerful buck converter regulator (switching), to replace the hot and inefficient RG2 linear voltage regulator, he thinks it will work really well and will massively cut down on the pi's current requirements :)

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