#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2012-12-23

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[0:00] <UnaClocker> I'm a bit of a hack when it comes to networking.. :) fair warning. :)
[0:01] <Heckles> No harm in trying it's easy enough to put it back :)
[0:01] <UnaClocker> Yeah
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[0:09] <rombus> i cant find a working link for darkelec3, does anyone have a link that works?
[0:09] <rombus> or upload it to filedropper or something?
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[0:13] <Hopsy> UnaClocker: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNfnTB8iuP4
[0:13] <advancednewbie> Linux: Setting up a Static IP
[0:13] <Hopsy> I dont see the inet :')
[0:13] <Hopsy> when I do ifconfig
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[0:19] <mhoney> are there any console based news readers that handle binaries well?
[0:20] <gordonDrogon> yes. do people still get binaries out of usenet? That's so 1980's ...
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[0:21] <mhoney> can you name one? An yes, usenet is very popular still
[0:22] <gordonDrogon> I use trn
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[0:22] <gordonDrogon> but I haven't taken a binary from usenet for over a decade now.
[0:23] <gordonDrogon> zed time. laters.
[0:24] <mhoney> found out that writing an image from same size sd card to another using win32diskimager doesnt work
[0:25] <mhoney> if they are different brands that is
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[0:26] <ScarletSwordfish> hmm, my apple keyboard is acting wonky
[0:27] <ScarletSwordfish> caps lock is flashing
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[0:28] <ScarletSwordfish> arrow keys are behaving badly
[0:28] <mythos> ScarletSwordfish, you want to use an usb-hub *jedi handmove
[0:29] <ScarletSwordfish> ah
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[0:29] <ScarletSwordfish> i'm in an awkward spot in the house to use one :/
[0:30] <mythos> you are hanging upside down from the ceiling?
[0:30] <ScarletSwordfish> i'm in the living room directly in front of the TV
[0:30] <ScarletSwordfish> with keyboard and laptop on my lap
[0:30] <mythos> doesn't matter. my headcinema is funnier now
[0:31] <ScarletSwordfish> hahaha
[0:31] <ScarletSwordfish> unplugging my mouse emitter seems to have helped
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[0:32] <ScarletSwordfish> i tried using the TV in my room but my VCR is on the fritz
[0:32] <ScarletSwordfish> so no composite video there
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[0:35] <_ds_> It's stopped emitting mice? I can see how that would help, unless there's a cat using it for food???
[0:36] <ScarletSwordfish> lololol no.
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[0:36] <ScarletSwordfish> the wireless emitter for my wireless mouse
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[0:47] <biberao> hi
[0:47] <biberao> anyone uses
[0:47] <biberao> omxplayer?
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[0:56] <linuxstb> biberao: Yes
[0:57] <biberao> when doing omxplayer -o hdmi something
[0:57] <biberao> can i have keybinds while playing the video?
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[0:58] <biberao> like i want it to load the subtitles
[1:00] <linuxstb> Does this answer your question? http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=146875
[1:01] <biberao> thanks
[1:01] <biberao> it works from cli
[1:01] <biberao> what i needed :)
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[1:07] <biberao> really appreciated linuxstb
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[1:47] <daveharlowe> hi
[1:49] <daveharlowe> can anyone recommend a usb ethernet interface that is stable under network load (i'm using MOSCHIP 7830/7832/7730 plugged into a usb hub and it hangs when i run high load thru it ) ?
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[1:52] <mhoney> daveharlowe, rpi v1 or 2?
[1:53] <daveharlowe> v2 i think (it has 512M memory)
[1:53] <nid0> your problem is probably the pi's usb, rather than the adaptor you're using
[1:54] <daveharlowe> ahh..
[1:54] <nid0> some people have been having stability problems with the v2's usb
[1:55] <daveharlowe> ahh..
[1:56] <daveharlowe> i've run load tests via eth1 (the ethernet-usb i/f) using jmeter
[1:56] <daveharlowe> the issue doesn't appear (from the tests i've ran) until i increase the number of threads from 10 - 20
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[1:57] <daveharlowe> the higher the thread count i attempt using jmeter call generator, the faster the "hang" on eth1 traffic occurs
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[1:58] <daveharlowe> it sorta looks like a software issue cos it's so repeatable by only increasing the number of simultaneous users (or threads) passing thru the eth1 i/f
[2:00] <daveharlowe> it got worse when i did an apt-get update and then apt-get dist-upgrade
[2:01] <daveharlowe> ie the "hang" and kernel trace error happen more quickly since upgrade
[2:01] <daveharlowe> anyway...i dunno how to fix it - perhaps noone knows
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[2:04] <daveharlowe> i'l run an overnight test and see if it can handle 5 threads for 10+ hours
[2:04] <daveharlowe> tnx for help
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[2:19] <dr_willis> are all the 512mb pi's the v2 ?
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[2:21] <daveharlowe> dr_willis, i dunno
[2:21] <daveharlowe> i'lll try and find out
[2:22] <dr_willis> Just curious. Got both my pis about 2 weeks ago. they are 512mb versions.
[2:23] <dr_willis> so far they work well as the media player/upnp servers. ;)
[2:26] <daveharlowe> i only have the pi currently - i want to eventualy try one of them as media player - where did you buy yours?
[2:26] <daveharlowe> i only have the *one* pi currently - i want to eventualy try one of them as media player - where did you buy yours?
[2:27] <dr_willis> daveharlowe: ordered it like 5 mo ago. from alliedelectronics. ;)
[2:27] <dr_willis> Need to order like 2 more.. the wife wants to take one of mine.
[2:27] <daveharlowe> hah
[2:28] <dr_willis> Only annoying thing about them as a media player /roku replacement is that they cant do netflix ;( or hulu, or crunchyroll.
[2:28] <daveharlowe> tnx - i'll check out alliedelectronics :)
[2:28] <dr_willis> I think theres like 3 companies in the USA selling them. may be more by this time.
[2:28] <daveharlowe> i'm in ireland
[2:28] <daveharlowe> i got mine from RS in uk
[2:29] <dr_willis> then you are better off ordering from somewhere closer i imagine. ;)
[2:29] <daveharlowe> ah yeah
[2:29] <dr_willis> They are a little scarce here in the usa
[2:29] <daveharlowe> are you using raspbian or debian?
[2:30] <dr_willis> rasbian for the desktop setup. then theres like 3 differnt xbmc-pi disrtos. that all seem to work well.. openelec and 2 others..
[2:31] <daveharlowe> ahh...i might give xbmxc a go till eth1 is fixed
[2:31] <dr_willis> xbian, raspbmc, openelec, there may be more out
[2:31] <dr_willis> xbian i think is using the newest xbmc.
[2:32] <daveharlowe> i run 2 Dell desktops 24/7's as internet routers - i want the rpi as a low power replacement
[2:32] <daveharlowe> it's costing eur10 extra per month on electrc bill :(
[2:32] <daveharlowe> cool, tnx
[2:33] <dr_willis> I just got one pi setup as a xbmc box. that also runs my znc server. ;)
[2:33] <daveharlowe> do the phono/audio outputs work (or are you using hdmi exclusively)?
[2:33] <dr_willis> other is a desktop machine
[2:33] <dr_willis> phono an work. but i hear theres some issues with sound pops/crackles in the drivers
[2:33] <dr_willis> HDMI is really the way to go
[2:33] <daveharlowe> time for a new tv :)
[2:34] <dr_willis> but i cant find a New PC Monitor these days that has speakers built in., Got one ages ago on sale. shold have got 2.
[2:34] <daveharlowe> dell do good ones here in ireland
[2:34] <dr_willis> TV's are cheaper i guess. ;) but ive had issues using TV's as pc monitors.. but i think the 2 are convergeing so much it may not be much of an issue these days
[2:34] <daveharlowe> about ?250
[2:35] <dr_willis> There can be overscan issues at times. but the PI seems to have thought that part out very well
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[2:35] <daveharlowe> ah, will try it
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[2:35] <daveharlowe> it's later here
[2:35] <daveharlowe> nite all
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[2:36] <daveharlowe> (such a quiet channel for so many on #)
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[2:39] <dr_willis> holidays ;)
[2:39] <daveharlowe> :)
[2:43] <Aranel> can I take 2 minutes of someone here? :)
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[2:45] <Aranel> can you run <?php echo shell_exec('vcgencmd version'); ?> on your raspi web-server and tell me if it gives an output or not?
[2:47] <dr_willis> i dont have a web server on my pis. ;()
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[2:59] <UnaClocker> How do I run that on my webserver?
[3:01] <Aranel> it has to be PHP-supported. Just write it to a test.php file, then browse to http://ipaddress/test.php
[3:01] <CaNsA> daveharlowe, hey. I just received mine from RS. It's a v2
[3:02] <daveharlowe> cool, tnx CaNsA
[3:02] <CaNsA> np, R-Pi Rev b, v1 i think
[3:03] <CaNsA> 512mb
[3:03] <dr_willis> it says V1 or V2 on the bord somewhere>
[3:03] <dr_willis> >
[3:04] <CaNsA> doesnt say
[3:04] <CaNsA> this one though
[3:05] <CaNsA> http://thetechblock.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/raspberry-pi-computer.jpg
[3:05] <UnaClocker> v1 never came with 512mb, there are some v2 256mb boards, though.
[3:05] <CaNsA> on which revision?
[3:06] <CaNsA> you get version, then revisions of that version right?
[3:06] <UnaClocker> Yeah, there were 3 revisions of v1..
[3:07] <UnaClocker> well, 2, plus the original version.
[3:08] <CaNsA> mines the same in teh pic i linked, and it says "Raspberry Pi B" on the manly pink case
[3:09] <UnaClocker> I've still yet to buy a case for any of my 6 Pi..
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[3:09] <CaNsA> did you not get the manly pink one it is sent out in?
[3:10] <UnaClocker> Aranel: Still installing the web browser...
[3:10] <UnaClocker> Four of my Pi came in white cardboard boxes, the other two came in big brown boxes.
[3:10] <CaNsA> odd
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[3:11] <CaNsA> http://i.imgur.com/n7JTJ.jpg
[3:11] <CaNsA> thats what arrived yest
[3:11] <Aranel> the "manly pink" one is pretty good actually
[3:11] <CaNsA> true
[3:11] <CaNsA> decent bit of storage TBH
[3:11] <Aranel> wonder why it isn't have any holes on it to out-of-box use
[3:12] <Aranel> it would put an end to case hunt :)
[3:12] <CaNsA> the shipper moved my Pi from the source to the local depot in less than 12hrs, it then took 48hrs for it to be delivered the final 6miles
[3:13] <CaNsA> nextday delivery my bloody arse
[3:13] <CaNsA> Aranel, Dremel :D
[3:13] <Aranel> yep that's what I'm going to do :)
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[3:13] <Aranel> so you waited 60hrs for your raspi?
[3:14] <CaNsA> indeed
[3:14] <Aranel> and you're complaining. I've waited 5 weeks.
[3:14] <Aranel> lol
[3:14] <CaNsA> lol
[3:14] <Aranel> while waiting I've forgot about it completely at least twice
[3:14] <CaNsA> i waited 2weeks for it to be shipped, low stock, and then just over 48hrs for delivery
[3:14] <UnaClocker> Aranel: Boxes mine came in: http://twitter.com/UnaClocker/status/282670085175402497/photo/1
[3:15] <Aranel> then noticed it on google, "wow that's interesting" and I realized I already bought one
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[3:15] <CaNsA> lol
[3:15] <CaNsA> nice, nice
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[3:15] <Aranel> UnaClocker: hmm element14
[3:16] <UnaClocker> :) Had to toss my christmas tree into the picture..:)
[3:16] <Aranel> maybe the pink one is shipped by RS only.
[3:16] <Aranel> and it's lovely =)
[3:16] <UnaClocker> The two I got from RS came in that big brown box..
[3:16] <CaNsA> is that the nice, trendy case?
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[3:17] <Aranel> by the way, if anyone using piwww and don't know any PHP
[3:17] <Aranel> I've added some small goodies and willing to share.
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[3:18] <CaNsA> im trying to get android running, mouse and k/b refuse to work
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[3:22] <UnaClocker> Aranel: I tried to run that php test, and I get a 403 - Forbidden error.
[3:22] <Aranel> oh, is your webserver configured correctly?
[3:22] <UnaClocker> Doubt it.
[3:22] <Aranel> By the way I think I kind of figured it out
[3:22] <UnaClocker> ok
[3:23] <Aranel> I'll keep trying to perfect it :)
[3:23] <UnaClocker> My real webserver runs on my sheevaplug, not my Pi.
[3:23] <UnaClocker> And it doesn't use any php.
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[3:24] <Aranel> UnaClocker: and you got a Sheeva too? That should be nice :)
[3:25] <TAFB> hey, in setting up my goofy Seagate GoFlex Home and running into issues, a google search said it can run Arch Linux and has a 1.2ghz processor, SATA, Gigabit Ethernet and USB 2.0... hmmmmmm.
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[3:27] <TAFB> omg :( can someone go to http://tafb.yi.org and tells me what comes up? :(
[3:28] <Aranel> TAFB: something about Seagate
[3:28] <TAFB> are you serious? how the heck did it do that?
[3:28] <TAFB> my customers websites :(
[3:28] <Aranel> TAFB: I was looking for your piwww to copycat it
[3:28] <Aranel> but I couldn't. that's how I know :)
[3:28] <TAFB> it's redirecting port 80 in my router, without permission :(
[3:30] <UnaClocker> Yeah, I've been running my sheeva as a webserver/firewall/nas for like 3 years now..
[3:30] <atouk> ohh it's the hack the fileserver game. I LOVE that game...
[3:31] <TAFB> well, if this thing is taking over my Port 80... say goodbye! Linux on it time :(
[3:31] <UnaClocker> tafb: sounds like the seagate dockstar, which is a sheevaplug derivitive.
[3:32] <TAFB> UnaClocker: Yeah, it's the 2nd gen of the dockstar :)
[3:32] <UnaClocker> Good stuff. :)
[3:32] <TAFB> http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv5/seagate-goflex-home
[3:32] <UnaClocker> The Sheevaplug benchmarks well against the raspberry pi...
[3:33] <TAFB> does it do good SATA speed??
[3:33] <UnaClocker> Yup, can totally max out the drive with the gigabit ethernet.
[3:33] <TAFB> woot, nice :)
[3:34] <TAFB> If I can buy a $99 3TB hard drive with this thing stuck on the bottom of it, why couldn't the Pi people have just added a GPU to that, boom, monster Pi with gig E and SATA ;)
[3:34] <TAFB> and 1.2ghz
[3:34] <UnaClocker> I have a nearly full 2tb drive on mine, will be adding another soon.
[3:34] <UnaClocker> The Pi people, Eben to be specific, works for broadcom..
[3:34] <TAFB> that's a shame
[3:34] <TAFB> lol
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[3:35] <TAFB> ok, my custmer just texted me that their website is down. this Seagate thing is gettin rooted. brb.
[3:35] <UnaClocker> There was a version of the sheeva with hdmi, but it never got off the design floor really.. They had it at some shows, not much beyond that.
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[3:38] <TAFB_rootin> ok, try http://tafb.yi.org - seagate should be gone
[3:38] <UnaClocker> nothin
[3:39] <TAFB_rootin> omg, wtf did it do to my router :(
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[3:39] <TAFB_rootin> k. can putty into my Pi
[3:39] <TAFB_rootin> pancake running on port 80
[3:40] <TAFB_rootin> i can go to it by IP... hmmm. router is just misdirecting port 80 to the old IP of the seagate thing
[3:40] <TAFB_rootin> :(
[3:40] <TAFB_rootin> brb. rebootin router.
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[3:43] <TAFB> ok... looks good now... http://tafy.yi.org
[3:43] <TAFB> ok... looks good now... http://tafb.yi.org
[3:43] <TAFB> whops
[3:43] <TAFB> lol
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[3:44] <TAFB> scary for a while there! sheesh. last time I plug that into my network :( lol.
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[3:48] <UnaClocker> heh, I just run my web server on my router/firewall.. Simpler..
[3:49] <TAFB> nice
[3:49] <TAFB> I was doing that with ddwrt back in the day
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[3:52] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Ping
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[3:53] <Dagger2> I run it in a VM, and then just give the VM a public IP
[3:53] <Dagger2> that's clearly the sensible way to do it
[3:53] <UnaClocker> eh, I have a hard enough time keeping a real machine online, my vm's are down when my computer is sleeping.
[3:54] <Aranel> TAFB: your status page is looks very sexy
[3:54] <Aranel> s/is/
[3:55] <TAFB> Aranel: thanks :)
[3:55] <TAFB> hey Parker
[3:56] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Got this for 16 even in store http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Mobile-microSDHC-Adapter-SDSDQY-016G-A11A/dp/B005FQLN0U
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[3:56] <ParkerR_> My first class 10 :D
[3:57] <TAFB> man, that seagate box wrecked my dns too, web browsin not working
[3:57] <TAFB> one sec Parker and I'll check it out, lol
[3:57] <TAFB> ohhh nice
[3:58] <TAFB> Micro HC-I, didn't know they had those
[3:58] <TAFB> how it set up in the Pi yet?
[3:58] <ParkerR_> Not yet
[3:58] <ParkerR_> Going to dd my 8gb image to it
[3:58] <TAFB> nice
[3:58] <ParkerR_> Then expand the partition
[3:58] <TAFB> when you do we'll run some iozone on it.
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[4:00] <UnaClocker> iozone?
[4:01] <TAFB> iozone: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/Patriot_EP_32GB_vs_Sandisk_Extreme_120GB_SSD_Performance_in_RaspberryPi_large.png
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[4:01] <TAFB> iozone program: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/15710882/iozone3_397-2_armhf.deb
[4:06] <monkers> hey just got my pi, any changes i make to the filesystem arent kept after 'reboot' - am i doin something wrong? this is first boot, off of an sd card preloaded from adafruit
[4:07] <TAFB> re-load the latest wheezy image from http://www.raspberrypi.org/download
[4:07] <monkers> cool ty
[4:08] <pksato> monkers: what kind of changes?
[4:08] <monkers> i touched a test file in /etc/ and also tried setting /etc/network/interfaces
[4:08] <monkers> i think im still in some.. install mode or something
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[4:08] <UnaClocker> Screwy..
[4:08] <pksato> I donw know this preload sd.
[4:09] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Oh and also a little Netgear wifi adapter
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[4:10] <monkers> i have to use SD, cant boot off USB right?
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[4:10] <TAFB> monkers: correct. You HAVE to boot off SD, but your OS can be on USB :)
[4:11] <monkers> gotcha
[4:11] <TAFB> ParkerR_: Nice :) Love the Pi on Wifi. Hopefully your Pi powers it OK. I had to solder mine ;)
[4:13] <TAFB> ok, diabled uPnP in my router... I hope that'll solve it :)
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[4:15] <monkers> TAFB - my pc cant write to an SD card, but i do have a usb flash drive, and my pi is booted into linux and has 'dd' available it would seem.. Is this do-able?
[4:17] <TAFB> I don't think you can re-write the SD card if you're booted off of it :(
[4:17] <TAFB> does your PC have a card reader?
[4:17] <monkers> hr
[4:17] <monkers> hrmm
[4:17] <monkers> checkin
[4:18] <monkers> yah laptop has one, k, booting it up
[4:18] <TAFB> nice
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[4:24] <monkers> TAFB how big should this SD be? i think its only 60mb?
[4:25] <monkers> no its 4gig...
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[4:29] <TAFB> monkers: when you write the image to the SD, windows will only see a small chunk of it
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[4:34] <monkers> TAFB - ok. can i boot and have my OS on the SD card?
[4:35] <monkers> 4gb will be plenty
[4:36] <TAFB> yep, 4gb is fine. the stock image comes out to 2gb total
[4:36] <monkers> hrm... can i boot this wheezy img off the SD and then install onto the SD ?
[4:37] <TAFB> the wheezy image is pre-installed, when you boot off the SD it's already installed and ready to rock.
[4:37] <monkers> oh ok cool
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[4:40] <ParkerR_> Freak yes
[4:40] <ParkerR_> Wifi adpater works
[4:40] <ParkerR_> *adapter
[4:40] <TAFB> NICE! :)
[4:40] <TAFB> congrats
[4:40] <TAFB> I'm happy cause I just enabled root on my Seagata GoFlex and set a password and can now log in with SSH :) overwrite time.
[4:41] <ParkerR_> Although need to get the USB cable for the lapdock. PLugging the wifi directly into the Pi crashes due to ower draw
[4:41] <ParkerR_> *power
[4:41] <TAFB> lol, my wifi does the same.
[4:41] <TAFB> I ordered a monster cap to fix it
[4:41] <ParkerR_> Boots back up and works but SLETCHY
[4:41] <ParkerR_> *SKETCHY
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[4:46] <ParkerR_> mfw not a single powered USB hub in the house
[4:46] <TAFB> :(
[4:46] <ParkerR_> They're cheap but meh
[4:46] <TAFB> open one up and solder some wires, make it powered ;)
[4:46] <ParkerR_> ONce I get the USB cable for the lapdock Ill be set
[4:46] <TAFB> and make it back powered too, and back power the pi with it ;)
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[4:52] <TAFB> OMG this seagate thing is SO much faster than the Pi :) just rips on gigabit network with 100mbit internet :) 64% [==============================================================> ] 95,352,680 5.51M/s in 24s
[4:58] <TAFB> hmmm. musta missed a step somewhere :( http://pastebin.com/g9PDF7Uc
[5:01] <mhoney> Anyone here using synergy? I cant get the clipboard to work
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[5:15] <dr_willis> Hmm.. i dident think synergy supported the clipboard
[5:15] <dr_willis> that would be a neat trick
[5:15] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Holy smokes. Steady 7.0 MB/s writing the img to the sd card
[5:15] <TAFB> woot, finally worked! Had to reboot after creating partitions :) 100% 147,071,214 5.90M/s in 26s
[5:16] <TAFB> ParkerR_: Ohhh, not bad :)
[5:16] <ParkerR_> Heh
[5:16] <ParkerR_> Drooped to 5
[5:16] <ParkerR_> Still better than before
[5:18] <TAFB> woot woot. SPEEDZ
[5:19] <TAFB> My little seagate thing was downloading from the INTERNET at 6mb/sec... can't wait to see how fast she is in general.
[5:19] <SuperLag> TAFB: what seagate thing?
[5:19] <TAFB> I have a bunch of em
[5:19] <TAFB> came with some external drives I bought but never used em.
[5:19] <TAFB> http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv5/seagate-goflex-home
[5:19] <TAFB> 1.2ghz cpu, SATA 2, gigabit ethernet, runs arch linux
[5:20] <TAFB> usb 2.0
[5:20] <TAFB> so far it's making the Pi look absolutely silly :)
[5:20] <Torikun> yo
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[5:20] <TAFB> yo yo
[5:21] <Torikun> how ya be
[5:21] <TAFB> good. improvin my linux skillz
[5:21] <TAFB> will be installin Arch soon
[5:21] <TAFB> :)
[5:21] <Torikun> lol postfic and dovecot!
[5:21] <TAFB> never
[5:21] <TAFB> ever
[5:21] <TAFB> go away
[5:21] <Torikun> lol
[5:22] <Torikun> how come isp routers do not ket you customize dns
[5:22] <Tachyon`> wonder if that device supports SATA multiplexing
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[5:23] <TAFB> what's multiplexing?
[5:23] <asaru> inline on the same cord i would imagine
[5:24] <Tachyon`> multiple sata devices from one porty
[5:24] <Tachyon`> it's been supported since SATA2 I think
[5:25] <Torikun> like ide had forever
[5:25] <asaru> i wasnt aware you could do that
[5:25] <asaru> mostly because i've never seen a multi-port sata cable
[5:25] <TAFB> ahhh. I've got a 5 drive Drobo plugged into it now, so I got 5 drives :) hehe.
[5:26] <Torikun> i want to be abke to afford drobo lol
[5:26] <TAFB> they work soooo good. I love em :)
[5:26] <SuperLag> I have a Drobo FS. Love it.
[5:26] <Torikun> usb or network one
[5:27] <SuperLag> 7TB of storage
[5:27] <TAFB> nice
[5:27] <TAFB> I just got 500gb drives in mine right now.
[5:27] <SuperLag> 5 x 2TB drives
[5:27] <TAFB> SuperLag: Can you do Raid 1+0 on them do you know?
[5:27] <SuperLag> i don't think so
[5:27] <SuperLag> it's a proprietary algorithm
[5:28] <Torikun> is your drobos nas or usb
[5:28] <TAFB> ahhhh.
[5:28] <TAFB> Torikun: Mine is esata usually
[5:28] <SuperLag> Mine is a NAS
[5:28] <SuperLag> gigE
[5:28] <TAFB> nice
[5:28] <Torikun> i want nas one only usefuo one
[5:28] <TAFB> I think they do nas, esata and usb 3, all in one :) lol
[5:29] <Torikun> i got wd mybook live for my nas
[5:29] <monkers> ugh >_<
[5:29] <monkers> win32disk imager just ran for 45 minutes reading/writing and it didnt seem to change the SD contents at all
[5:30] <TAFB> monkers: should only take a few mins to write the image :(
[5:31] <Tachyon`> you have to run it as administrator or it doesn't work
[5:31] <Torikun> archlinux FTW!
[5:31] <TAFB> if you can't get the image write to work, format the SD card FAT32 and just unzip the berryboot files to it, then it'll boot the Pi: http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot
[5:31] <Tachyon`> also, be very careful to select the right destination drive
[5:31] <monkers> so, the wheezy rasbian image is 3.8gig right?
[5:31] <TAFB> i thought it was 2gb?
[5:31] <Tachyon`> it iss
[5:31] <TAFB> dunno, always put it on 32gb cards, lol
[5:31] <Torikun> tafb if you instsll arch you will need to resize partition with parted
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[5:32] <TAFB> arch on my seagate box?
[5:32] <Torikun> the root part is too small
[5:32] <Torikun> my default dd image
[5:32] * monkers has made a terrible mistake somewhere
[5:32] <Torikun> i nean their default root part too small
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[5:33] <monkers> looks like my src image got corrupted somehow.. np
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[5:39] <Tachyon`> hrm, can the pi do 800x480 over composite?
[5:39] <Tachyon`> found some slightly less cheap 5" monitors that are 800x480 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290804759940
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[5:41] <SpeedEvil> yes
[5:41] <SpeedEvil> 800 is probably not going to happen, in reality, more like 200+ horizontal
[5:41] <Tachyon`> no, that really is an 800x480 display, although I'm aware of the limits of composite
[5:42] <Tachyon`> there were some others that were 400x240/480x272 etc.
[5:42] <SpeedEvil> well, yes
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[5:42] <ParkerR_> Composite video nowadays just seems meh
[5:42] <Tachyon`> what I want to know is if the Pi will generate an 800x480 via that port or limit it to 640x480 or something, it's definitely supported over hdmi
[5:42] <SpeedEvil> but you,re not going to get 800 meaningful horizontal from it
[5:43] <Tachyon`> well, given the games being displayed on it will be 240x320/320x240 at most (old MAME games) it should be good enough
[5:43] <monkers> is tehre a trick to using the win32 disk imager? it says its written the image successfully but the SD card hasnt changed as far as i can tell
[5:43] <Tachyon`> besides, old CRTs weren't pin sharp either, lol
[5:43] <SpeedEvil> old rgb monitors were
[5:43] <ParkerR_> monkers, Try removing it and re inserting
[5:43] <SpeedEvil> not co posite
[5:44] <SpeedEvil> blow on the contacts
[5:44] <TAFB> monkers: make sure you "eject" it properly
[5:44] <TAFB> don't just pull it out
[5:44] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Don't always have to
[5:44] <ParkerR_> But is a good idea most of the time
[5:44] <Tachyon`> I have every type of old monitor you could think of here, yes, RGB was better than composite but the horizontal pixels were never that well defined due to the bandwidth on the old 16KHz stuff
[5:45] <monkers> do i need to click 'read' then 'write' or just 'write'
[5:45] <SpeedEvil> Tachyon`: got any vector display?
[5:45] <Tachyon`> turning my head to the right I see a multisync, a portable TV (for the spectrum, it's black), a commodore 1084 and a microvitec CUB TTL RGB monitor, lo
[5:46] <Tachyon`> no, lol, although a friend has a vectrex but weren't vector displays used on old PDP hardware etc.
[5:46] <ParkerR_> monkers, Just write
[5:46] <SpeedEvil> yes
[5:46] <Tachyon`> that's a bit before my time, the oldest machine I have here is from 1979 (not counting the replica altair)
[5:46] <ParkerR_> Read probably overwrote the image file
[5:46] <ParkerR_> Hahahaha
[5:46] <ParkerR_> So it flashed what was already on the card
[5:46] <SpeedEvil> vectors, with hardware storage of the image in the CRT
[5:46] <ParkerR_> Good job :P
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[5:47] <ParkerR_> If you did indeed click read you'll have to redownload/reextract the image file
[5:48] <Tachyon`> http://www.pokenet.co.uk/misc/images.hardware.old/oldsystems-p.jpg <- the setup old systems although that picture is now over a year out of date
[5:48] <monkers> oh k
[5:49] <ParkerR_> Tachyon`, There better be a TI-994A just out of sight :P
[5:49] <Tachyon`> it isn't, I dont' have one of those
[5:49] <Tachyon`> (yet)
[5:49] <ParkerR_> Aww
[5:50] <Tachyon`> I also don't have an MSX as the 3 I've bought have been irretrievably dead
[5:50] <ParkerR_> http://imgur.com/a/m0B8R#0
[5:50] <monkers> anyone have an md5 hash for the wheezy rasbian image?
[5:50] <Tachyon`> (bought only 1 TI-99/4A but that was also dead)
[5:50] <Tachyon`> it's on the site
[5:50] <monkers> i only see the sha-1
[5:50] <Tachyon`> oh yes, my mistake
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[5:51] <Tachyon`> ah, a portfolio
[5:51] <Tachyon`> I have one of those
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[5:52] <ParkerR_> :D
[5:52] <ParkerR_> Sadly mine broke quite a while after those photos
[5:52] <ParkerR_> RIP
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[5:52] <ParkerR_> Literally in pieces :|
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[5:53] <Tachyon`> ahh, display went?
[5:54] <Tachyon`> it was common for the ribbon cable connecting it to the main machine to fail
[5:54] <ParkerR_> Something on the mainboard
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[5:54] <monkers> ok writing SD for the third time :P
[5:54] <ParkerR_> And I think one line in the display was funky
[5:54] <Tachyon`> hrm, unusual
[5:55] <Tachyon`> http://www.pokenet.co.uk/misc/images.hardware.old/hp95bbc.jpg
[5:55] <Tachyon`> that's a curious beast
[5:55] <monkers> does it matter that windows cant format this sd card with a capacity great than 54mb?
[5:55] <Tachyon`> excuse the poor pic, it predates my DSLR so was taken with a phone
[5:55] <ParkerR_> :O
[5:55] <Tachyon`> it does not
[5:55] <ParkerR_> I like
[5:55] <Tachyon`> as the image writing ignores the formatting information
[5:56] <ParkerR_> 3 dip dos
[5:56] <monkers> ah good
[5:56] <ParkerR_> *<3
[5:56] <Tachyon`> http://www.pokenet.co.uk/misc/images.hardware.old/hpia/working.jpg <- tha's a curious beast I got off ebay as "non-working" although the picture clearly showed only the CMOS drive type had been lost
[5:57] <ParkerR_> Neat. I had on old Com[aq that was slightly newer than that
[5:57] <Tachyon`> it's called the HP internet advisor but it's really a protocol analyser, based on a 486 DLC 50
[5:57] <ParkerR_> *Compaq
[5:57] <Tachyon`> has more ports than you'd believe although you probably spotted the LEDs and breakout pins
[5:57] <Tachyon`> for some of them
[5:58] <Tachyon`> http://www.pokenet.co.uk/misc/images.hardware.old/hpia/DSCI0005.JPG <- look at that port, it looks like it came off one of the apollo missions
[5:58] <Tachyon`> not that you can really see it, I must get it out and take better pictures
[5:59] <TAFB> oh baby, arch installed on the seagate thing, everything setup. just waiting for it to halt for it's first real boot up :)
[6:00] <Tachyon`> http://www.pokenet.co.uk/misc/images.hardware.old/70diskunix.jpg <- bought that just for the hell of it
[6:00] <Tachyon`> it does include compilers and xwindows of a sort
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[6:01] <pksato> disk? not an tapes? or punch cards.
[6:02] <monkers> so do i have to eject the sd card from laptop?
[6:02] <Tachyon`> I do have some stuff on tape from the early 80s machines
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[6:02] <TAFB> i would, go into computer/my computer, right click, eject
[6:02] <Tachyon`> but probably not the sort of tape you mean
[6:02] <dr_willis> 'dont copy that floppy....' ;)
[6:02] <home> TAFB: I Bought an RC car for 11$ from some Chinese store
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[6:02] <home> It didn't work, and was openbox
[6:02] <TAFB> home: nice
[6:02] <home> yay me? Right
[6:02] <TAFB> rofl
[6:02] <Tachyon`> actually the seller imaged them all to a CD for me before sending
[6:03] <Tachyon`> as I was rather doubtful they'd all be readable
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[6:03] <Tachyon`> they were though
[6:03] <home> TAFB: Gonna try to make it work though
[6:03] <monkers> ugh same thing
[6:03] <ParkerR_> FINALLY after tons of useless google images results http://pc-museum.com/gallery/rcm-021.jpg
[6:03] <ParkerR_> Compaq LTE 286
[6:03] <ParkerR_> My first laptop
[6:03] <Tachyon`> better than mine
[6:03] <Tachyon`> which was the spookily similar specified but much heavier SLT/286
[6:04] <monkers> perhaps my laptop isnt compatible with the disk imager :(
[6:04] <Tachyon`> for many years I had an SLT 386/16 running as my 64HDD Pro machine
[6:04] <Tachyon`> it is
[6:04] <ParkerR_> One day it just locked itself to DOS
[6:04] <Tachyon`> are you running it as administsrator
[6:04] <ParkerR_> Couldnt do anything
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[6:04] <monkers> yah if i dont run it as admin it errors out
[6:04] <ParkerR_> Exit, couldnt start any of the small guis
[6:04] <Tachyon`> ahh, the LTE was only CGA by the looks of it
[6:04] <Tachyon`> the SLT did manage VGA albeit in monocrome and 16 shades of it which made mode 13h rather interesting
[6:04] <ParkerR_> Was sad to see that go
[6:05] <monkers> it writes the 1.8gig image 'successful' - then i close the imager and eject the disk. put it in the pi but i still get the same boot, right to a console with limited shell (no install options or anything)
[6:05] <Tachyon`> as you just got the same 16 shadse repeated 16 times ignoring the palette completely
[6:05] <Tachyon`> so in the games thatr didn't move too fast to play, you'd typically have certain things the same colour as the backgroud
[6:06] <Tachyon`> although running them in EGA mode if supported generally got around that
[6:06] <ParkerR_> And my next one up http://safe-img01.olx.com.mx/ui/8/42/64/1283275090_114873864_1-Pictures-of--Toshiba-Satellite-Pro-410cdt-Laptop-1283275090.jpg
[6:07] <Tachyon`> ah yes, I've seen that one before, nipple mouse too, lol, was never a fan of those
[6:07] <Tachyon`> http://www.pokenet.co.uk/misc/images.hardware.old/sharphandheld.jpg <- a rather older sharp
[6:07] <pksato> monkers: raspbian image?
[6:07] <Aranel> TAFB: what's the command you're using for top 10 cpu/mem hogs? :)
[6:07] <monkers> yah wheezy
[6:07] <Tachyon`> I didn't really document my PC machines at all
[6:07] <Tachyon`> its' the pre pc ones I collect in the main
[6:07] <Aranel> TAFB: I couldn't manage to display memory usage in kilobytes
[6:07] <monkers> the guy in the tutorial said he couldnt get his netbook to do it either, maybe we're having the same problem.. but everything *looks* like its writing correctly.
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[6:08] <Tachyon`> although I did have an original IBM PC at one time (with a whole 64K on the motherboard which was 4 banks of 9 4116s!)
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[6:08] <ParkerR_> Tachyon`, Ahh that reminds me http://www.ralf-beckmann.de/images/IQ-8200.gif
[6:08] <pksato> rasbian run a rasp-config on first boot. And can do some intiall config.
[6:08] <ParkerR_> Had that for a little bit too
[6:09] <ParkerR_> Tachyon`, I feel like we we get along great irl :D
[6:09] <ParkerR_> *we would
[6:09] <Tachyon`> http://www.pokenet.co.uk/misc/images.hardware.old/handhelds.jpg there's a few of mine on there although that pic is old and two of the items don't belong
[6:09] <Tachyon`> I have rather more than that now in teh way of handhelds
[6:09] <monkers> im at a loss... something is on the SD card, it boots up to a cli screen with a rasberry on top left
[6:09] <monkers> but theres no rasp-config that i can see
[6:10] <ParkerR_> Tachyon`, Nice parallel port expansion you go there :)
[6:10] <ParkerR_> *got
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[6:10] <Tachyon`> aye, you can transfer between a (DOS) PC and the portfolio
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[6:11] <TAFB> lol
[6:11] <Tachyon`> using a straight through wired cable (IE: /not/ laplink as I found after buying one)
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[6:11] <TAFB> whenever I click "view dhcp client table" in my router, it reboots :(
[6:11] <monkers> ouch
[6:12] <monkers> ok im going to try flsahnul.exe
[6:12] <Tachyon`> the Casio I'm looking for is the later Z1-GR with the improved display
[6:13] <Tachyon`> they were notable for having an 80188 processor, Basic, C and x86 asm built in and could be upgraded via chip changes to 256KB internally (from the supposed max of 36/64K)
[6:17] <Tachyon`> http://blog-imgs-56.fc2.com/k/y/o/kyoro205/FX890P_Z1GR.jpg
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[6:17] <TAFB> oh baby, use nmap to scan my entire network for open SSH ports, turns out my router gave my Seagate a new IP after the OS reload :) i'm back in business :)
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[6:18] <Tachyon`> ah, the FX-890P also has the improved display
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[6:18] <ParkerR_> Umm
[6:19] <ParkerR_> The Pi does not seem to want to boot my class 10 card
[6:19] <TAFB> oh noes :(
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[6:19] <ParkerR_> Both partitions show up fine on linux on my computer
[6:20] <TAFB> hmmm. nuke the card, format fat32 and try my diagnostic files in the root of the card: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/TAFB_diagnostics_bootcode.zip
[6:20] <TAFB> if the pi dun boot with that, she won't ever
[6:20] <monkers> flashnul says access denied when it tries to write to sd. even though i am in an admin mode cmd prompt?
[6:20] <monkers> >_<
[6:21] <TAFB> means something else is trying to use the card
[6:21] <TAFB> virus scanner
[6:21] <TAFB> open window
[6:21] <TAFB> etc.
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[6:21] <mattwj2002> asterisk on pi?
[6:21] <TAFB> if you format it in windows it'll say something like "card in use, format anyway?" and say yes, it'll unmount the card, then your dos app will work fine.
[6:21] <pksato> mattwj2002: why not?
[6:22] <mattwj2002> sweet
[6:22] <mattwj2002> it would make a cool like pbx for phone use
[6:22] <mattwj2002> *home use
[6:22] <pksato> http://www.raspberry-asterisk.org/
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[6:23] <home> derpy derp!4
[6:23] <TAFB> oh baby, arch is installed!!! now, to figure ish out :)
[6:24] <monkers> ok i told it to ignore all errors and continue, it spit out about 50 access denied errors and now appears to be writing ok.
[6:24] <ParkerR_> TAFB, Hmm ok that booted
[6:24] <ParkerR_> Maybe my img is bad
[6:24] <TAFB> ParkerR_: yep, my guess too. I've had a TON of people use my Diag code, then just re-write card and it boots!
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[6:25] <monkers> -_-
[6:25] <monkers> looks like the first sectors of the SD card aren't writeable for some reason. oh well lets see if this boots.
[6:26] <TAFB> did you try and write it a second time right after?
[6:26] <monkers> yah a few times, it kept saying access denied. so i told it to ignore all errors :l
[6:27] <monkers> i wonder why only some parts of the SD would be writeable to windows... maybe its some antivirus stuff like you were saying
[6:27] <monkers> boot protection
[6:27] <monkers> hrrmrmmrmm
[6:28] <pksato> monkers: use some disk wipe and erase all SD card. http://www.diskwipe.org/
[6:29] <pksato> and use Win32DiskImager to transfer .img again.
[6:29] <monkers> kk
[6:30] <ParkerR_> The sd card has to mount in windows to work in win32diskimager
[6:30] <ParkerR_> Needs a fat32 partition on it
[6:32] <monkers> k wiping now
[6:32] <monkers> DOD spec
[6:32] <monkers> j/k
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[6:35] <monkers> its only formatting 56mb
[6:35] <monkers> in diskwipe
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[6:36] <pksato> ok, stop. and open windows disk manager (I dont know how to do it), and erase/delete all partitions. and dont create any.
[6:37] <monkers> ok i see all the partitions there
[6:37] <monkers> ill delete them all
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[6:38] <ParkerR_> It has to have at least one fat32 partition if you are going to be using win32diskimager
[6:39] <monkers> ok its down to 1 partition, a 56mb fat32 partition that i cant delete or remove. then there is 3.58gig of unallocated space
[6:39] <pksato> win32diskimager is a raw img tool. dont need any partition.
[6:40] <Tachyon`> yeah but I think it does need a drive letter to show up in windows so you can select teh card
[6:41] <pksato> window are very weird.
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[6:43] <monkers> k i gave it a drive letter and disk imager is writing to it again.
[6:43] <shiftplusone> I think the tool has a few bugs. If you have the small partition and it shows up as J: or whatever, when you try to flash an image, it will say you don't have enough disk space. I've seen reports of that happening, but it doesn't seem to happen always.
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[6:44] <shiftplusone> In other words, it will only see the partition, rather than the whole disk.
[6:44] <shiftplusone> http://www.chrysocome.net/dd is probably the more cromulent (but less user friendly) way to go.
[6:44] <monkers> can i do that after i boot off it?
[6:45] <shiftplusone> do what?
[6:45] <monkers> dd it
[6:45] <shiftplusone> The short answer is no.
[6:45] <monkers> ok
[6:47] <monkers> so this time i expect it'll either have a nice OS on it or i'll get no boot...
[6:48] <monkers> because i think i wiped whatever was there before
[6:48] <monkers> 90% done
[6:49] <monkers> "Write Successful"
[6:49] <monkers> and it did creat a new 1.75gig partition
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[6:50] <pksato> one? must be have two.
[6:50] <monkers> 2 total, 1 new
[6:51] <monkers> ok im booted up to a CLI command line, just like before >_<
[6:51] <pksato> ok
[6:51] <shiftplusone> what's the problem exactly?
[6:51] <monkers> i want to boot wheezy
[6:51] <monkers> maybe this is wheezy?
[6:51] <monkers> i was expecting an install program or something
[6:52] <shiftplusone> flashing the disk image is the install.
[6:52] <pksato> monkers: download .zip again. extract .img and write to sd.
[6:52] <monkers> how can i know if im in the right oS?
[6:52] <shiftplusone> If you're talking about raspbian, you can log in as pi (password: raspberry) and run 'sudo raspi-config' to run a bit of a setup. Though that should launch automatically on first boot.
[6:53] <pksato> http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
[6:53] <monkers> there's no login it just spits me out at a CLI
[6:53] <monkers> can i rerun the install program?
[6:53] <shiftplusone> Are there any errors?
[6:53] <monkers> no errors
[6:53] <pksato> what is a last line?
[6:53] <shiftplusone> do you see something like "your file system is messed up, run fsck" or something?
[6:53] <monkers> my keyboard coming online
[6:53] <monkers> no, it seems to load ok actually
[6:54] <shiftplusone> What's the name of the .img file you flashed?
[6:54] <monkers> 2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian.img
[6:54] <shiftplusone> that's odd
[6:55] <monkers> if i type mount i just see a /boot partition
[6:55] <shiftplusone> what happens if you run 'sudo raspi-config' ?
[6:55] <monkers> i mean in df -h
[6:55] <monkers> sudo not found
[6:55] <shiftplusone> ....sounds horribly wrong. Just in case, reflash.
[6:56] <monkers> ok i will reflash but this will be reflash #5
[6:56] <monkers> :P
[6:56] <shiftplusone> oh
[6:56] <shiftplusone> maybe the disk image is messed up. Anyone here used the latest raspbian image?
[6:56] <monkers> i think its my laptop
[6:56] <monkers> not writing the image correctly maybe
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[6:58] <shiftplusone> it's the sort of thing that should either work, fail to boot, or boot with lots of errors.
[6:59] <shiftplusone> You say it boots fine, but everything is missing, which doesn't sound right.
[6:59] <shiftplusone> when you typed mount, what was on / ?
[7:00] <monkers> rootfs
[7:00] <shiftplusone> well, I give up then. >.>
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[7:01] <pksato> download prev. version http://files.velocix.com/c1410/images/raspbian/2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian/2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian.zip
[7:01] <monkers> oh hey good news
[7:01] <shiftplusone> I'd just say pay more attention to the first boot after you reflash. I am sure there were important messages you may have missed.
[7:01] <shiftplusone> reflash worked?
[7:01] <monkers> having luck with this - "if you get a access denied error, try substitute the device number with the drive letter followed by a colon. "
[7:02] <monkers> uh oh.
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[7:03] <shiftplusone> This tool looks better than win32diskwhatever http://www.roadkil.net/program.php?ProgramID=12
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[7:04] <Tachyon`> ah, windows 7 is starting to keel over...
[7:04] <Tachyon`> it's been up over 27 days mind
[7:04] <Tachyon`> and the irc client has eaten nearly 1.5GB of RAM
[7:05] <TAFB> Tachyon`: I had mine up 38 days, then the power went out, but it was getting wonky, my monitors would sleep anymore :(
[7:05] <TAFB> anyone good with arch linux wanna help me "make" iozone? I got the tar downloaded and extracted...
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[7:06] <shiftplusone> TAFB, what's the problem?
[7:06] <TAFB> the problem is I dunno how to make/build things when I get them :(
[7:06] <shiftplusone> there should be a README and an INSTALL
[7:06] <monkers> hhhooookay.. roadkill errored out too
[7:06] <TAFB> no readme, I looked :(
[7:06] <shiftplusone> monkers, are you running it as admin?
[7:07] <monkers> ya
[7:07] <TAFB> there's "makefile", "iozone.c", some lib files, etc.
[7:07] <shiftplusone> and what happens if you run 'make' ?
[7:07] <monkers> error #87 occured whiel writing to disk at sector 1146688
[7:07] <shiftplusone> if there a configure?
[7:07] <shiftplusone> monkers, sounds like a faulty card.
[7:07] <monkers> arg
[7:07] <monkers> in windows shouldnt i be able to delete all partitions on the card?
[7:08] <Tachyon`> if there's a configure, run it (with ./configure as . isn't searched by default), if not just run make, ideally after having a look at config.h
[7:08] <TAFB> i do not see a configure :( http://pastebin.com/BTGCvYmT
[7:08] <shiftplusone> monkers, yes,run the disk manager.
[7:08] <shiftplusone> monkers, but it won't help you
[7:09] <shiftplusone> monkers, is this a new card?
[7:09] <shiftplusone> TAFB, i'll give it a go, hang on.
[7:09] <shiftplusone> just 'make' should work
[7:09] <TAFB> thanks
[7:09] <TAFB> lol
[7:09] <TAFB> k. 1 sec.
[7:09] <monkers> its a card preformated from adafruit. im in disk manager and cant delete that first volume on the disk
[7:09] <TAFB> "make not found"
[7:09] <Tachyon`> oh dear
[7:10] <xzr> monkers: use diskpart to delete the partition table
[7:10] <TAFB> monkers: be careful with diskpart ;)
[7:10] <shiftplusone> TAFB, install base-devel
[7:10] <xzr> well as long as you don't select any hdds you should be fine
[7:10] <xzr> lol
[7:10] <TAFB> packman base-devel?
[7:10] <TAFB> I'm only famliliar with apt-get :)
[7:11] <shiftplusone> pacman -S base-devel
[7:11] <TAFB> k. running..
[7:11] <TAFB> :: Repository core
[7:11] <TAFB> 1) autoconf 2) automake 3) binutils 4) bison 5) fakeroot 6) flex 7) gcc 8) libtool 9) m4 10) make 11) patch 12) pkg-config
[7:11] <shiftplusone> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman
[7:11] <TAFB> sweet, thx :)
[7:11] <TAFB> it's asking me to pick a repo core.
[7:12] <shiftplusone> yeah, install all of that, that should be an option. I don't have arch available right now, so I don't remember exactly how it works.
[7:12] <TAFB> lol
[7:12] <shiftplusone> you can't just press enter and let it install everything?
[7:12] <TAFB> ahh yeah, says default=all
[7:12] <shiftplusone> yeah, do that.
[7:12] <TAFB> k. downloadin, at 6mb/sec ;)
[7:13] <monkers> xzr - ok its disk 1, how do wipe it in diskpart? i did a 'select disk 1'
[7:13] <TAFB> "clean"
[7:13] <TAFB> iirc
[7:14] <shiftplusone> TAFB, after you install that, run 'make linux-arm'
[7:14] <TAFB> [root@alarm current]# make
[7:14] <TAFB> You must specify the target.
[7:14] <TAFB> ahhhh, lol. k.
[7:14] <monkers> ooooh that worked
[7:14] <monkers> progress!!!
[7:14] <TAFB> says "making iozone"
[7:15] <xzr> :)
[7:15] <TAFB> ummm. I don't think this thing has arm does it? :)
[7:15] <monkers> ok now what, make a new partition?
[7:15] <shiftplusone> TAFB, read the bloody text, it's right there int he list =P
[7:15] <monkers> its just 3.64gig unallocated
[7:15] <xzr> well after that you can just use the windows tool to format it
[7:15] <xzr> or do it all in diskpart if you want
[7:16] <TAFB> but my cpu, it ain't arm I dun think? this isn't on my Pi.
[7:16] <monkers> format it how?
[7:16] <monkers> fat32?
[7:16] <shiftplusone> monkers, oh... wait, is it possible that windows had the fat32 partition mounted and that's why you couldn't flash the image?
[7:16] <pksato> or. dump .img
[7:16] <xzr> "create partition primary" "active" "format fs=fat32"
[7:17] <monkers> ok flashnul is writing without errors
[7:17] <monkers> \o/
[7:17] <shiftplusone> TAFB, ah, that's something you should specified. You're just running arch on your desktop?
[7:17] <pksato> verify if .img is not corrupeted.
[7:17] <TAFB> shiftplusone: lol. whops. I'm running Arch in my hacked Seagate NAS box :)
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[7:17] <TAFB> says CPU: armv5te 1.2ghz
[7:18] <shiftplusone> then it should be fine, but I have no idea.
[7:18] <monkers> im not too worried about the image, i think this was caused by a partition on the disk that windows didnt like
[7:18] <TAFB> shiftplusone: lol. k. "make" is finished, no errors.
[7:18] <shiftplusone> TAFB, now your binaries are in that folder
[7:18] <pksato> at the last, unzip it again.
[7:19] <TAFB> shiftplusone: ahh yes, I see more files :)
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[7:19] <TAFB> shiftplusone: http://pastebin.com/gmDn9qyJ
[7:19] <monkers> gettin there...
[7:19] <shiftplusone> TAFB, well, I see iozone there
[7:20] <TAFB> -bash: iozone: command not found
[7:20] <shiftplusone> you forgot the ./
[7:20] <TAFB> do I have to do something special to run it?
[7:20] <shiftplusone> './iozone'
[7:20] <TAFB> lol
[7:20] <TAFB> :)
[7:20] <TAFB> I first tried iozone.exe
[7:20] <TAFB> that didn't work either ;)
[7:20] <shiftplusone> Those are some leet unix skills you've got there.
[7:20] <TAFB> rofl
[7:20] <monkers> haha
[7:20] <TAFB> shiftplusone! LOOKS LIKE IT WORKS! You are amazing.
[7:21] <TAFB> shiftplusone: what time is it where you are?
[7:21] <monkers> i feel like once this thing boots ill be in better shape :P
[7:21] <shiftplusone> 5:21pm
[7:21] <TAFB> shiftplusone: sweet
[7:22] <TAFB> generating benchmark chart to compare against Pi......
[7:23] <monkers> k booting up
[7:23] <monkers> here we go
[7:23] <TAFB> monkers: congrats!
[7:24] <monkers> well...
[7:24] <monkers> hrm :l
[7:24] <monkers> the screen didnt come on this time *cough*
[7:24] <TAFB> make sure your tv/monitor is selected on the right input and not asleep.
[7:24] <TAFB> use the yellow composite jack if you think your tv is going to sleep before the pi can see it
[7:25] <shiftplusone> monkers, did the ACCT/OK led flash when you powered up?
[7:25] <pksato> monkers: connected to TV from HDMI?
[7:27] <monkers> yah... the monitor comes on if it boots
[7:28] <monkers> im flashing it with disk imager after a fat32 quickformate
[7:28] <monkers> i realize it was RAW formatted.
[7:28] <monkers> maybe that was it.
[7:29] <shiftplusone> monkers, do you have a linux livecd/usb handy so that you can do it properly?
[7:30] <monkers> its sort of locked down since its a work laptop, i think im stuck with windows
[7:30] <monkers> and my main machine doesnt have an sd reader
[7:30] <shiftplusone> monkers, you should still be able to boot from CD. It doesn't install anything.
[7:30] <shiftplusone> (or USB)
[7:31] <monkers> ok then that should be ok
[7:32] <shiftplusone> monkers, are you comfortable with linux and dd? (Do you know how to find out what of=/dev/... parameter you needt o use?)
[7:33] <monkers> lets just pray it doesnt come to that.
[7:33] <monkers> 91% complete on the latest reflash ;)
[7:33] <monkers> so writing the image should rewrite the partition table ?
[7:33] <shiftplusone> If not, stick to windows. Do this: Delete the partition table. DO NOT FORMAT THE SDCARD! Use roadkils tools to write the image.
[7:33] <pksato> I need to sleep... but, some times, need to set hdmi parameter on config.txt to dispplay work propelly.
[7:34] <TAFB> night night pksato
[7:34] <TAFB> you're not going to get to see my new benchmark charts!
[7:34] <monkers> ok i see a new partition table
[7:34] <shiftplusone> monkers, yes, the disk is just a bunch of 1s and 0s. That start of those 1s and 0s is your MBR and partition table. When you write a disk image, you're overwritting ALL of the 1s and 0s.
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[7:35] <monkers> ok we have video \o/
[7:35] <shiftplusone> woo!
[7:35] <TAFB> nice
[7:35] <shiftplusone> Do we have raspi-config coming up automatically?
[7:35] <TAFB> shiftplusone: the i/o performance numbers look like they are going to murder the Pi so far :)
[7:35] <monkers> no, it stopped loading at "input, hiddev0, USB HID USB Keyboard" and its just a blinking cursor
[7:36] <monkers> and if i press return im at a # prompt
[7:36] <shiftplusone> monkers, then I blame your disk image =/
[7:36] <shiftplusone> monkers, maybe worth checking back later when more people are on
[7:36] <monkers> ok re-downloading
[7:36] <shiftplusone> I don't personally use raspbian
[7:37] <shiftplusone> so for all I know it might be a known problem
[7:37] <shiftplusone> with the last img
[7:37] <TAFB> yeah, I haven't used latest image either, they just updated it too
[7:37] <TAFB> hmmm
[7:37] <shiftplusone> TAFB, I ran iozone -a to see what the fuss is about... still running. How long does it take?
[7:37] <TAFB> like 10 hours
[7:37] <monkers> well, what else can i put on there?
[7:37] <TAFB> abort that, I have command for you
[7:37] <shiftplusone> ...oh
[7:37] <monkers> im not opposed to switching it up
[7:38] <shiftplusone> monkers, arch
[7:38] <TAFB> shiftplusone: what you running it on? Pi on SD card?
[7:38] <shiftplusone> TAFB, yup
[7:38] <TAFB> lol
[7:38] <TAFB> 512 ram?
[7:38] <shiftplusone> nope
[7:38] <TAFB> 256? k. it'll run a lil faster.
[7:38] <TAFB> one sec for command line
[7:38] <TAFB> what's your GPU split?
[7:39] <shiftplusone> gpu_mem=16
[7:39] <TAFB> iozone -e -a -s 460M -r 4k -r 512k -r 16M -i 0 -i 1 -i 2 -Rb chart.wks
[7:39] <shiftplusone> Mem: 232
[7:39] <TAFB> after that is done, pastebin chart.wks and I'll fire ya up a fancy chart
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[7:40] <TAFB> depending on speed of SD card can take from 20 to 30 mins to fully complete.
[7:40] <shiftplusone> k
[7:40] <shiftplusone> running now, thanks
[7:40] <Aranel> TAFB: would you mind doing the same chart for me too? :)
[7:41] <TAFB> no probs :)
[7:41] <TAFB> what you runnin Aranel?
[7:41] <Aranel> 16gb class10 sd card
[7:41] <TAFB> how much ram in pi?
[7:41] <Aranel> 512, split 256 to gpu
[7:41] <TAFB> okies, use same command I gave shift then.
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[7:42] <Torikun> yo
[7:42] <TAFB> here is my Patriot EP class 10 card, "supposed" to be good, look at 4k random write speed (i.e. my php and mail server): http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/Patriot_EP_32GB_Performance_in_RaspberryPi_large.png
[7:42] <TAFB> that chart is in k/sec
[7:42] <Torikun> you live here tafb lol
[7:43] <shiftplusone> he does =/
[7:43] <TAFB> Torikun: I needed shiftplusone's help getting Arch setup on my Seagate nas!
[7:43] <TAFB> I might sell my Pi and replace it with the Seagate!
[7:43] <Torikun> lol with what
[7:43] <Torikun> oh
[7:43] <TAFB> It's a little tiny docking station
[7:43] <shiftplusone> Any time I check to see what's going on, it's just TAFB and his status page.
[7:43] <TAFB> SATA 2, gigabit ethernet, USB 2.0, 1.2ghz cpu
[7:43] <Torikun> seagate more poowerful?
[7:43] <Torikun> oh yesh
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[7:44] <TAFB> I'm running some benchmarks on it now.
[7:44] <TAFB> I was downloading from the internet at 6mb/sec
[7:44] <Torikun> i am sure it is
[7:44] <Aranel> looks like iozone is not available on raspbian repos
[7:44] <Torikun> pi super slow
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[7:44] <TAFB> un tarring images, etc. just MURDERED the Pi and it's on a crappy WD 2TB "Green" hard drive!
[7:44] <TAFB> Pi is on SSD!
[7:44] <TAFB> If i put the SSD in here, native SATA 2.0... omg look out
[7:44] <Torikun> cause if the cpu?
[7:45] <TAFB> nope, this has sata 2.0 controller
[7:45] <Torikun> oh
[7:45] <TAFB> so no more i/o bottleneck, and using CPU to drive USB controller, etc.
[7:45] <Torikun> i remember you talking about that now
[7:45] <TAFB> Here is a picture of the docking thing: http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv5/seagate-goflex-home
[7:45] <Torikun> you could make a dns server lol
[7:46] <TAFB> I just want my PHP to run faster :) I setup Wordpress on the Pi... :(
[7:46] <Torikun> i cant copy and oaste url in this term
[7:46] <Torikun> oh
[7:46] <TAFB> ahhh. can you open a .jpg?
[7:46] <shiftplusone> TAFB, and you can pop any SATA drive in there?
[7:46] <monkers> can someone send me the output of a 'mount' from their pi ?
[7:46] <Torikun> android app festure lacking
[7:47] <TAFB> shiftplusone: sure damn can! it's a seagate box, and I've got WD in it now! I'll take pic right now!!
[7:47] <TAFB> brb
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[7:47] <Torikun> monkers rusher81572.com/pi
[7:47] <shiftplusone> monkers, http://pastebin.com/32KHCfEP
[7:47] <Torikun> you can see mine therr
[7:48] <monkers> thanks - whats /dev/sda2?
[7:48] <Torikun> var/log
[7:48] <monkers> is it a physical device?
[7:48] <Torikun> yesh
[7:48] <Torikun> swap is sda1
[7:48] <Torikun> i wanted to reduce writes on main ssd
[7:49] <monkers> wheres the sd card?
[7:49] <Torikun> sdcard is mmcblk like one
[7:49] <monkers> 94 mb ?
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[7:49] <Torikun> sda is usb pen drive
[7:49] <Torikun> everything else sd
[7:49] <Torikun> card
[7:50] <monkers> - /dev/mmcblk0p1 vfat 94M 21M 74M 22% /boot
[7:50] <Torikun> yup
[7:50] <monkers> doesnt seem right.. 94mb?
[7:50] <Torikun> thsts just boot
[7:50] <Torikun> not root fd
[7:50] <monkers> ohhh
[7:51] <monkers> well my rootfs never gets mounted
[7:51] <monkers> its like im only in /boot
[7:51] <Torikun> OK what distro
[7:51] <monkers> wheezy
[7:51] <Torikun> oh
[7:51] <monkers> raspbian
[7:51] <shiftplusone> latest raspbian img
[7:51] <Torikun> never used it
[7:51] <Torikun> add entry in fstsb and reboot
[7:51] <shiftplusone> monkers, I'd shelve it for now and come back leter.
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[7:52] <TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2tb_wd_on_seagate_goflex_home_on_arch_linux.jpg
[7:52] <TAFB> oh baby :)
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[7:53] <Torikun> just not powerful lol
[7:53] <monkers> i just d/l'd the new image and flashing it now just in case it got corrputed.
[7:53] <monkers> do you all using something similar to raspbian?
[7:53] <TAFB> I'm using Wheezy on my Pi :) http://tafb.yi.org
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[7:53] <shiftplusone> monkers, using an older raspbian image right now for testing the pistore. Usually I stick to archlinux.
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[7:54] <Torikun> arch ftw!
[7:55] <TAFB> does nginx and php5 work on arch?
[7:55] <Torikun> php does i use it on drupal
[7:55] <TAFB> nice
[7:55] <TAFB> what webserver would people run for a really light weight one that could support php?
[7:56] <Torikun> everyone will say pi not powerful for xyz
[7:56] <shiftplusone> yes, nginx works fine.
[7:56] <TAFB> sweet
[7:56] <Torikun> whats nginx
[7:56] <TAFB> this thing only got like 128mb ram so I need to be lean.
[7:56] <monkers> does anyone one distro lend itself to gpio ?
[7:56] <shiftplusone> not quite sure what you mean by lend itself, but no.
[7:56] <monkers> right
[7:56] <monkers> kk
[7:57] <shiftplusone> I don't know about risc os and the non linux ones though
[7:57] <TAFB> shiftplusone: what stage is your iozone on?
[7:57] <shiftplusone> random read
[7:57] <TAFB> on "reclen 4"?
[7:58] <shiftplusone> I guess, yeah.
[7:58] <TAFB> lol, under reclen column, is it a 4?
[7:58] <shiftplusone> yeah
[7:58] <TAFB> k.
[7:59] <TAFB> this is the slowest part of the test, random read and random write for 4k.
[7:59] <TAFB> once it's done those two, the rest goes fast.
[7:59] <TAFB> my seagate box has been on random read for a while now, me thinking the hard drive and/or box isn't very good and random 4k reads.
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[8:03] <TAFB> i just opened another session with putty, it's not locked up, so that's good :)
[8:04] <Torikun> oh
[8:04] <Torikun> seagate nas will likely win
[8:04] <TAFB> even with crappy WD 2tb "green" hard drive, vs Pi with SSD!?!?
[8:04] <Torikun> we will see
[8:05] <TAFB> true true
[8:05] <Torikun> i might go bed soon email results lol
[8:05] <Torikun> irc ftrom
[8:05] <TAFB> if the seagate is close in random 4k read/write performance, I might move the SSD from to the Pi to it and re-run the tests :)
[8:05] <Torikun> irc sucks on tablet
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[8:06] <TAFB> lol
[8:07] <Torikun> a nexus 7 would make a faster server lol
[8:07] <TAFB> I got these for free ;)
[8:07] <Torikun> your pis?
[8:07] <TAFB> the seagate things
[8:07] <Torikun> oh
[8:08] <Torikun> so drobo connected to pi via usb not worth the money?
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[8:08] <TAFB> nope, SSD made it look silly, plus a lot less power and noise.
[8:09] <Torikun> pi wouild be a good cheap nas solution i thought
[8:09] <Torikun> oh well
[8:09] <TAFB> because the network card runs on usb 2.0 and uses so much cpu, it really doesn't do well
[8:10] <Torikun> mpladndjdjdj~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
[8:10] <TAFB> it should have had it's own dedicated lan controller, even gigabit maybe :(
[8:10] <Torikun> ~~~yeahj
[8:10] <Torikun> maybe newer revs
[8:11] <Torikun> any news on that?
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[8:11] <TAFB> yeah, I'm hoping for Pi rev 6.3 they do SATA6, USB3, flush mount microSD, quad core 1.7ghz, 4gb ram.
[8:12] <SpeedEvil> 2*2 cm, 1mw power
[8:12] <TAFB> lol
[8:12] <Torikun> when will next rev be available
[8:12] <TAFB> on rpi.org they just released the "new" $25 Pi rev.
[8:13] <Torikun> whast diff
[8:13] <TAFB> but someone asked them about new features, etc., and they said "not in the near future"
[8:13] <shiftplusone> TAFB, https://dl.dropbox.com/u/175702/chart.wks
[8:13] <TAFB> Torikun: it's got no ethernet like the old rev A, but not too sure if there's any improvements.
[8:13] <Torikun> why no ethernet
[8:13] <TAFB> shiftplusone: okes, gimme a sec.
[8:13] <Torikun> thast sucks
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[8:14] <TAFB> shiftplusone: can you e-mail that file to me? It doesn't open properly for me, says it's text instead of binary :(
[8:14] <TAFB> or rename it to .zip and re-upload it and it'll work
[8:15] <shiftplusone> didn't rename, actually zipped https://dl.dropbox.com/u/175702/chart.zip
[8:15] <Torikun> why would they remove ethernet
[8:15] <TAFB> works. one sec, generating chart.
[8:15] <shiftplusone> Torikun, not everybody needs it and it frees up the usb as well.
[8:15] <Torikun> oh for wifi lol
[8:15] <shiftplusone> Torikun, it's for a different application.
[8:16] <Torikun> hopefully more memory and better cpu
[8:16] <shiftplusone> maybe wifi, but also more mbedded applications.
[8:16] <shiftplusone> no, cpu won't change any time soon
[8:16] <Torikun> either way you need network
[8:16] <shiftplusone> Torikun, not always. Why would you expect Model A to have better specs than Model B?
[8:17] <shiftplusone> At best you'll have a few hardware fixes.
[8:17] <Torikun> newer revs usually mean better features
[8:17] <shiftplusone> you're missing the point of Model A and Model B.
[8:18] <Torikun> i got the 256 mb pi what model is thast
[8:18] <Torikun> what is the poijnt
[8:18] <shiftplusone> Torikun, you've got an old model b. The newer model b has 512.
[8:18] <TAFB> wow, nice card shiftplusone :)
[8:18] <shiftplusone> Torikun, the point is that you can get a model a for $25 or whatever it is and have it open your garage door or whatever.
[8:19] <Torikun> ok
[8:19] <shiftplusone> Or you can preload an education os and run it in the classroom
[8:19] <Torikun> what model you got
[8:19] <shiftplusone> Model A isn't out yet. Everyone has model B
[8:20] <monkers> ?!
[8:20] <monkers> that makes no sense.
[8:20] <shiftplusone> They'll be auctioning Model As for charity when they first come out.
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[8:20] <shiftplusone> there's a post on the front page about that I think
[8:20] <shiftplusone> oh, they already are
[8:20] <shiftplusone> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Twelve-Pis-of-Christmas-Raspberry-Pi-Model-A-Computer-/181048068655?pt=UK_Computing_Other_Computing_Networking&hash=item2a274e4a2f
[8:20] <monkers> does anyone have a gertboard?
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[8:21] <TAFB> shiftplusone: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/shiftplusone_sd_speed_test_with_iozone.png
[8:22] <monkers> "It does not have an Ethernet port (network connection), but this means its power consumption is significantly less than Model B." - is this true whether the network port is plugged in or not? would seem to suggest so
[8:22] <shiftplusone> monkers, what network port?
[8:22] <shiftplusone> TAFB, thanks. That's going ont he fridge.
[8:22] <TAFB> haha :)
[8:23] <Torikun> sucks i have an older b lol
[8:23] <TAFB> I left a spot where you can photshop in your card name and model, etc.
[8:24] <monkers> ohh shit
[8:25] <monkers> ya'll arent gonna believe this.
[8:25] <TAFB> monkers: watch the language plz.
[8:25] <monkers> oh sorry
[8:25] <shiftplusone> monkers, what he said ^
[8:25] <TAFB> np
[8:25] <monkers> if i put the sd card in my other raspberry pi it loads fine. :l
[8:25] <shiftplusone> monkers, so... you're saying it's haunted?
[8:25] <TAFB> is your pi and older one?
[8:25] <TAFB> the one it works in
[8:25] <monkers> i ordered 2
[8:26] <TAFB> ahhh
[8:26] <monkers> hadnt plugged the other one in yet
[8:26] <TAFB> well, that sucks
[8:26] <TAFB> your Pi may have been undercooked at the factory like my first two :(
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[8:26] <Torikun> bad hardware
[8:26] <monkers> oooh :(
[8:26] <TAFB> you can bake it in the oven, or send it back for a replacement
[8:26] <shiftplusone> my farnell one worked fine, but the RS one is questionable.
[8:26] <shiftplusone> I still have an unopened farnell one as a spare.
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[8:27] <shiftplusone> won't be buying more until there's a raspberry pi 2 or something like that (If that ever happens)
[8:27] <Torikun> i want your case tsfb
[8:27] <TAFB> everyone does
[8:27] <TAFB> that's why I put a link right above it on my status page
[8:27] <Torikun> where
[8:28] <TAFB> http://tafb.yi.org/
[8:28] <TAFB> under the raspberry
[8:28] <Torikun> dam cant copy
[8:28] <Torikun> lol
[8:28] <TAFB> easy to type
[8:28] <TAFB> short
[8:28] <TAFB> lol
[8:28] <shiftplusone> TAFB, you have to link to raspberrypi.org if you use the raspberry pi logo.
[8:28] <monkers> actually no you were right
[8:28] <monkers> it is actually haunted
[8:28] <monkers> now the sd is working fine on both
[8:28] <shiftplusone> monkers, or ancient aliens
[8:28] <TAFB> shiftplusone: ahhh. good to know, thanks :) I'll update it now.
[8:28] <monkers> probably aliens yah
[8:29] <shiftplusone> there's no other explanation, this is what the mayans predicted.
[8:29] <monkers> oh right i forgot all about that
[8:29] <Torikun> yoiur
[8:29] <Torikun> how is your pi running so cool
[8:30] <TAFB> the case
[8:30] <TAFB> it's 21c air temp in room
[8:30] <Torikun> that case is 74 lol
[8:30] <TAFB> it's canada, it's snowing
[8:30] <TAFB> twice the price of the Pi ;)
[8:30] <Torikun> so expensive
[8:31] <shiftplusone> it's ok, TAFB prints his own money, I think.
[8:31] <Torikun> lol
[8:31] <TAFB> shiftplusone: link done
[8:31] <Torikun> i got the 15 dollar plastic case from amazon
[8:32] <Torikun> comes from china in pieces
[8:32] <TAFB> I got the $6 case from China but it made my Pi run so hot :(
[8:32] <shiftplusone> how hot is 'so' ?
[8:32] <TAFB> 70c\
[8:32] <mrmoney2012> hi chaps - i have to do sudo modprobe w1-gpio; sudo modprobe w1-therm every time i boot??? any way to add them at boot ?
[8:33] <Torikun> mine is 50c
[8:33] <shiftplusone> mrmoney2012, yeah, there's a file you can add the module names to.
[8:33] <TAFB> rc.local?
[8:33] <shiftplusone> running raspbian?
[8:33] <Torikun> with cheap case
[8:33] <shiftplusone> no, not rc.local.
[8:33] <TAFB> lol
[8:33] <TAFB> but I love rc.local!
[8:33] <Torikun> mk odprobe.conf
[8:33] <dr_willis> /etc/modules/ or somthinglike thaat
[8:33] <Torikun> modprobe.d or conf
[8:33] <mrmoney2012> yip??? you mean /etc/modules ??? tried that doesn't work
[8:33] <shiftplusone> TAFB, and that's why you try to run .exe files on linux.
[8:34] <TAFB> shiftplusone: lolz
[8:34] <Torikun> wine lol
[8:34] <mrmoney2012> this is my modules file right now http://pastie.org/5567640
[8:34] <shiftplusone> /etc/modprobe.d
[8:34] <TAFB> Torikun: he was helping me compile iozone nad when it was done he asked me to run it so I typed in iozone.exe and it dodn't work
[8:34] <Torikun> lok
[8:35] <mrmoney2012> shiftplusone: thats a folder
[8:35] <shiftplusone> mrmoney2012, I am not a debian user myself, but have a read of http://kernel-handbook.alioth.debian.org/ch-modules.html
[8:36] <shiftplusone> "If some modules are not loaded automatically by udev, but you would like them to be loaded during boot, it is possible to force it by listing the names of the modules in /etc/modules. This will be scanned for the names of the modules (one name per line), which will then be loaded using modprobe. "
[8:36] <shiftplusone> but that article might be outdated, I don't know.
[8:36] <shiftplusone> google around
[8:36] <shiftplusone> other sources say modules.conf
[8:37] <shiftplusone> ok, should be just modules, modules.conf is on other distros
[8:37] <shiftplusone> mrmoney2012, run 'sudo update-modules'
[8:38] <shiftplusone> after adding the modules to /etc/modutils
[8:38] <shiftplusone> http://wiki.debian.org/Modules
[8:38] <mrmoney2012> sudo: update-modules: command not found
[8:38] <shiftplusone> Then I blame debian.
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[8:39] <mrmoney2012> hehe??? thanks for trying - will google around
[8:41] <mrmoney2012> need to speed up samba performance to external hdd??? i guess it's just slow because of the shared ethernet / usb thing
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[8:43] <TAFB> mrmoney2012: make sure it's formatted EXT4 for best performance.
[8:43] <mrmoney2012> is??? /dev/sda1 on /mnt/external_1TB_USB_hard_disk type ext4 (rw,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered)
[8:43] <monkers> guys i fgigured out the problem
[8:43] <monkers> it has notihing to do with the sd card :(
[8:44] <mrmoney2012> what speeds do i need to stream hd video ?
[8:44] <monkers> if my HDMI cable isnt plugged in just right, the pi doesnt think i have an hdmi connected and doesnt seem to output much more than some preliminary boot info on it. if i plug it in good i load up whatever OS is on the sd.
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[8:44] <TAFB> monkers: use the force hdmi thing in /boot/config.txt
[8:45] <TAFB> hdmi hot plug something or other
[8:45] <monkers> yah i was reading that
[8:45] <monkers> and it made me think "maybe my stuff isnt connected well"
[8:45] <monkers> ok im in raspi config :P
[8:45] <monkers> i guess i should expand the root partition
[8:45] <TAFB> yep
[8:46] <shiftplusone> monkers, thanks for figuring that one out. I think I've seen the problem before, so at least now I know how to help if I see it again.
[8:46] <monkers> pi
[8:46] <monkers> np, thanks for the help
[8:47] <monkers> no overclock?
[8:47] <monkers> i dont think i need it yet.
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[9:06] <mrmoney2012> what speeds do i need to stream hd video ? is 1.5 / 2.0 MB/sec enough ?
[9:07] <SpeedEvil> depends
[9:07] <TAFB> generally around 4mb/sec for 1080p high quality ish
[9:07] <SpeedEvil> what YouTube calls 'HD' may not be the same as bluray
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[9:08] <TAFB> I'm making an image of my 120gb ssd before I try it in the Seagate thing, so I can restore my Pi if it doesn't work out
[9:08] <TAFB> Reading 0x1870a0000 (6256 Mb), 29887881 b/s
[9:08] <TAFB> truckin along
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[9:11] <mrmoney2012> hmmm, my raspberry-has is a little slow??? seems folk get 4 or 5 MB/sec - mine only 1 or 2.
[9:11] <TAFB> what sd card
[9:12] <mrmoney2012> it's to a USB HDD
[9:12] <TAFB> ahhh
[9:12] <mrmoney2012> although i tested with a share on the SD card and not much different
[9:12] <TAFB> as long as EXT4 should be gettin descent speeds
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[9:13] <mrmoney2012> power line???but that shouldn't be bottleneck
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[9:14] <TAFB> ethernet over powerline? I've never had much luck with them, i think the wiring in my house is too old/not grounded properly.
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[9:14] <TAFB> mrmoney2012: you see those little seagate NAS units I'm putting arch linux in?
[9:14] <mrmoney2012> yeah - i know what you mean - would love to run wires but modern house and no easy routes for wires
[9:15] <TAFB> mrmoney2012: got a usb wifi adapter you could try in the Pi, just to rule out the eth over power?
[9:15] <mrmoney2012> i have actually !
[9:15] <TAFB> that'd be a good back to back test.
[9:15] <mrmoney2012> and never tried wifi on pi - so could be a little project for today - good idea - will give it a go - thanks
[9:16] <mrmoney2012> plenty of guides around - i have a mini card labelled COMFAST???. ebay ??4 job
[9:16] <TAFB> no probs, if you fire up xwindows/lxde it has a niec wifi_gui config, sets everything up for ya, and works even outside of xwindows after reboot.
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[9:17] <mrmoney2012> no guy on this pi - but should be able to do it on command line
[9:17] <TAFB> nice
[9:17] <TAFB> that wpa_config thing screwed me right up, but the gui made it work good :)
[9:18] <TAFB> mrmoney2012: did you see my comment about my seagate things running linux?
[9:18] <mrmoney2012> i saw it but didn't really undersatnd
[9:18] <mrmoney2012> what seagate things ?
[9:18] <mrmoney2012> link?
[9:19] <TAFB> 1 sec :)
[9:19] <TAFB> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2tb_wd_on_seagate_goflex_home_on_arch_linux.jpg
[9:19] <TAFB> 1.2ghz cpu, SATA2, USB 2.0, runs Arch linux :)
[9:19] <mrmoney2012> ooo nice??? thanks
[9:19] <TAFB> gigabit ethernet.
[9:20] <mrmoney2012> easy hack ?
[9:20] <TAFB> network file performance is mind blowing :)
[9:20] <mrmoney2012> do like arch also
[9:20] <TAFB> hey, I'm super linux noob, if I can root it, anyone can!
[9:20] <TAFB> http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv5/seagate-goflex-home
[9:20] <shiftplusone> looks like minecraft pi edition is programmable through python as well O_o
[9:21] <shiftplusone> That's a great idea for teaching.
[9:21] <mrmoney2012> wow - like that - so you do this .. http://archlinuxarm.org/platforms/armv5/seagate-goflex-home
[9:21] <TAFB> mrmoney2012: if you follow those intructions, only part that didn't work, was you gotta reboot after you make the partitions otherwise box says no space. but other than that, worked good.
[9:21] <mrmoney2012> then install samba - that's it
[9:22] <TAFB> mrmoney2012: I only installed iozone on it so far, to test performance. It was off the charts compared to the Pi, so I'm moving my SSD over to it now, see what I can squeeze out of her.
[9:22] <TAFB> even over the USB port on it I was getting 30mb/sec!!!
[9:23] <TAFB> and it did 108mb/sec over the gigabit network... insane :)
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[9:39] <viric> meh. too many power problems, with this wifi dongle.
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[9:39] <TAFB> yeah, you gotta hotwire the pi to power most of em
[9:39] <viric> I see *problems*; I don't know if they are power problems.
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[9:39] <viric> but I have a usb hub too... and that works even worse
[9:39] <viric> (powered)
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[9:40] <TAFB> lol
[9:40] <TAFB> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/340/how-much-power-can-be-provided-through-usb
[9:40] <TAFB> I had to do this to get my wifi to be stable: http://i.stack.imgur.com/eU2tt.jpg
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[9:40] <viric> I'm always expecting something surprising, when I see imgur
[9:40] <TAFB> rofl
[9:41] <viric> oh, that's only a pi with wires.
[9:41] <viric> I've been deluded
[9:41] <TAFB> it's blocked on so many forums now, you can't use it for hosting nothin :)
[9:41] <viric> jpeg quality 1
[9:41] <viric> :)
[9:42] <TAFB> i might be selling/replacing my Pi :) with a little seagate box running arch linux :) the performance is mind blowing so far :) http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2tb_wd_on_seagate_goflex_home_on_arch_linux.jpg
[9:42] <viric> The cubieboard is very nice
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[9:42] <TAFB> yeah, I got a bunch of these for free
[9:43] <TAFB> so I couldn't pass it up :)
[9:43] <viric> these = pi?
[9:43] <TAFB> i/o performance puts the Pi to shame.
[9:43] <TAFB> viric: it's like a turbo charged pi with no graphics card
[9:43] <TAFB> 1.2ghz cpu, SATA2, usb 2.0 and GIGABIT ETHERNET!
[9:43] <viric> hasn't the cubieboard a graphics card?
[9:43] <viric> TAFB: I own a sheevaplug since years, and works very well
[9:43] <TAFB> I was able to pull 30mb/sec over USB and 108mb/sec over gigabit network. insane.
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[9:44] <TAFB> yeah, heard they are great. very similar to the board in this i hear.
[9:44] <viric> the sheevaplug even has a cipher coprocessor
[9:44] <TAFB> yeah, this one does too
[9:44] <viric> ah nice.
[9:44] <viric> but I thought the cubieboard had a graphics card
[9:44] <viric> (or you talk about the seagate?)
[9:44] <TAFB> for doing drive encryption without a performance hit right?
[9:44] <TAFB> talkin the seagate
[9:44] <viric> ah ok
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[9:44] <viric> ah, this seagate has the same cpu as the sheevaplug, no?
[9:45] <TAFB> called armvt5 or something?
[9:45] <TAFB> 1.2ghz
[9:45] <viric> armv5tel, yes
[9:45] <viric> exactly
[9:45] <viric> same thing.
[9:45] <TAFB> yep :)
[9:45] <viric> well, the sheevaplug comes with schematics.
[9:45] <viric> It's more open
[9:45] <TAFB> cool
[9:45] <viric> and 3 years older :)
[9:46] <TAFB> i'm moving my SSD over to this seagate unit now, see what she can do
[9:46] <viric> so you haven't said a word about cubieboard yet?
[9:46] <TAFB> if it works good, I'ma move all my website and e-mail off the Pi onto this thing.
[9:46] <TAFB> never seen the cubieboard
[9:46] <viric> look for it.
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[9:47] <TAFB> only 10/100 and no sata? :(
[9:47] <TAFB> ahh
[9:47] <TAFB> i see it's got sata
[9:47] <TAFB> missed that
[9:47] <TAFB> not bad!
[9:47] <TAFB> gigabit would be sweet
[9:47] <TAFB> can't believe the gigabit performance on this seagate box
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[9:48] <TAFB> only 50gigs more to backup :( Reading 0x11c5510000 (71 Gb), 30170817 b/s
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[9:49] <viric> I don't have any gigabit switch to play with
[9:49] <viric> good that I moved from coaxial to rj45
[9:49] <TAFB> I ordered a whole bunch of 8 port gigabit switches for $22 from china, and upgraded everything in our house so now we got full gigabit on everything :)
[9:49] <viric> coaxial was very nice. no central switch, just connecting one after the other.
[9:49] <TAFB> finally, I can download more than 100mbit! woot! http://www.speedtest.net/result/2376827100.png
[9:50] <TAFB> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/8-Port-10-100-1000Base-Gigabit-Ethernet-Network-Switch-high-performance-Smart-Gigabit-Switch-8-Port/660797404.html?err_biz_type=null&url_type=wto_buyer360_pic&biz_type=sitePromo_wto_buyer360_alert&crm_mtn_tracelog_plan_id=1105450432&crm_mtn_tracelog_task_id=20116418&crm_mtn_tracelog_log_id=2730720916
[9:50] <TAFB> ^^^ switches I bought
[9:50] <TAFB> used my same cat5 cabling, worked swet.
[9:50] <TAFB> sweet
[9:50] <viric> We had some cheap switches at the office. They blew up in a year.
[9:50] <viric> all of them
[9:51] <TAFB> lol!
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[9:52] <viric> TAFB: what did happen with your wifi usb, until you wired it?
[9:52] <TAFB> viric: not sure what you're asking?
[9:52] <TAFB> why did I switch from wifi: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-09-RaspberryPi_is_finished.jpg
[9:52] <TAFB> to wired: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-17-RaspberryPi_with_external_drive.jpg
[9:52] <TAFB> ?
[9:53] <Snuupy> TAFB: how?
[9:53] <Snuupy> 100mbps on rogers?
[9:53] <TAFB> yep :)
[9:53] <TAFB> extreme $100 package, now featuring 125mbps
[9:53] <TAFB> and soon to come is 300
[9:53] <Snuupy> ah
[9:53] <Snuupy> that cap must suck :<
[9:53] <Snuupy> business?
[9:53] <Snuupy> or res?
[9:53] <TAFB> I use up the cap in 1 day, so I don't care about the cap
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[9:53] <Snuupy> lol
[9:53] <TAFB> they just charge me $50 extra every month
[9:53] <gordonDrogon> morning pi peeps.
[9:54] <TAFB> I downloaded 3.78tb last month
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[9:54] <TAFB> mornin gordonDrogon!
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[9:54] <TAFB> dunno if you heard the news!
[9:54] <gordonDrogon> ?3.78TB of WHAT ?
[9:54] <gordonDrogon> what news?
[9:54] <TAFB> BIG NEWS
[9:54] <Snuupy> TAFB: rich :<
[9:54] <gordonDrogon> go on ...
[9:54] <TAFB> 3.78tb of mostly movies and motogp races, etc.
[9:54] <viric> TAFB: no, why did you hardwire the usb power from power input. What did happen, before that? The wifi didn't even switch on?
[9:54] <Snuupy> I pay $35 for 6/1
[9:55] <TAFB> viric: sometimes the wifi adapter would just disappear!! i had to unplug it, and plug it back in to get it to work. sometimes if I rebooted, it wouldn't even show up! it was so flakey till I hotwired.
[9:55] <gordonDrogon> well the news here is that it's not raining, so I get to BBQ the chickens for tomorrow.
[9:55] <TAFB> viric: the only reason I switched from wifi to wired is cause I needed both USB ports to power my SSD drive.
[9:55] <viric> TAFB: did the kernel notice it disappearing from usb? Here it simply disconnects from the wireless lan. And in case of using a hub, it lists all neighbour neighbours, but doesn't see mine.
[9:56] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: I might be replacing my Pi with this little box! http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2tb_wd_on_seagate_goflex_home_on_arch_linux.jpg
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[9:56] <TAFB> viric: lol @ wifi networks. Not sure, I didn't trouble shoot it much. just read it was usb power problem and soldered it up.
[9:56] <viric> TAFB: the marvell cpu on that (sheevaplug's) compiles twice as fast as the pi
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[9:57] <TAFB> viric: I know, I compiled iozone on it, and the Pi side by side, Pi took 7 mins 31 seconds, seagate box did it in 2 mins 5 seconds!
[9:57] <gordonDrogon> TAFB, but that's not a Pi.
[9:57] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: I know, but it's SO FAST
[9:57] <TAFB> 1.2ghz cpu, SATA2, USB2, GIGABIT ETHERNET!
[9:57] <gordonDrogon> sure, but it's not a Pi.
[9:57] <TAFB> it runs arm and arch linux, close enuff
[9:58] <gordonDrogon> it's still not a Pi.
[9:58] <TAFB> lol
[9:58] <TAFB> it was free
[9:58] <TAFB> and I have a bunch of them
[9:58] <TAFB> i need more i/o performance. Every day that I run an SSD drive on the Pi, god kills a kitten :(
[9:58] <gordonDrogon> I don't think you can watch 3.4TB of movies a month, can ?
[9:58] <gordonDrogon> you?
[9:59] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: it's for family and friends. I get a lot of requests, with bandwidth being so expensive.
[9:59] <TAFB> people just bring over usb hard drives and I load em up.
[9:59] <gordonDrogon> ok
[9:59] <TAFB> had some requests for some 1440p and 1600p movies lately, they are HUGE! 80 to 120gb :(
[9:59] <gordonDrogon> oh well.
[9:59] <gordonDrogon> right. time to investigate the bbc.
[10:00] <gordonDrogon> or even the bbq.
[10:00] <TAFB> lol
[10:00] <gordonDrogon> people watch too much TV.
[10:00] <TAFB> cook the chicken good, can make you very sick
[10:00] <TAFB> i can bbq about as well as I can compile kernels.
[10:00] <gordonDrogon> I do have a food hygenie certificate...
[10:00] <TAFB> nice
[10:01] <TAFB> oh baby! 25gb to go in the backup
[10:01] <gordonDrogon> and I do run a catering company. (as a hobby). I know how to cook whole chickens :)
[10:01] <TAFB> damn usb 2.0 is so slow
[10:01] <TAFB> i was wonder why in the pi, the ssd could only do 30mb/sec... cause usb 2.0 maxes out at 30mb/sec! lol
[10:01] <gordonDrogon> http://moorbakes.co.uk/?p=138
[10:01] <TAFB> yummm tastey
[10:02] <TAFB> wtf are the things front middle: http://moorbakes.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/vs31.jpg
[10:02] <gordonDrogon> the red & ping thinkgs? Ham and cherry tomatoes.
[10:02] <gordonDrogon> typing bad today )-:
[10:02] <TAFB> ahhh, i dun like tomatoes
[10:02] <TAFB> weird combo
[10:03] <gordonDrogon> crap camera phone photos too.
[10:03] <TAFB> it's 4am here, no sleep yet, i'll be typing bad soon too
[10:03] <TAFB> hopefully i don't make any mistakes swapping out that junky 2tb green drive for the SSD. I dun wanna brick my seagate
[10:04] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: I'm planning on unmounting the 2tb, swapping the drives with the unit still booted, then recreating the partitions, etc. on the new one. think that'll work?
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[10:08] <viric> I hope slowing the wifi bitrate will make it take less power
[10:08] <TAFB> not likely
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[10:08] <TAFB> some USB ones have adjustable output power (like my engenius high power one), but dunno about the cheapies.
[10:08] <viric> worse is believing in god
[10:09] <TAFB> 15gb to go! soooo close
[10:10] <monkers> quick way to install build?
[10:10] <monkers> is that make tools?
[10:13] <TAFB> backup complete, brb, swapping ssd
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[10:55] <gordonDrogon> well after a slow start, the old kamado is warning up nicely.
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[11:06] <Strykar> what extras would I need besides the actual hardware to attach, a camera, barometer and humidity sensors and motion and proximity sensors? can I attach all of them on a single rpi?
[11:07] <Strykar> in addition to a RTC and a gps ofc :)
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[11:08] * Strykar has no development experience
[11:08] <jelly1> almost anything
[11:09] <viric> money to pay someone to do the job
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[11:09] <viric> :)
[11:09] <Strykar> so what interface do the sensors from adafruit conenct to? gpio?
[11:10] <Strykar> viric, I could do it on an atom machine and have none of the learning
[11:10] <Grievre> Strykar: either gpio or I2C depending on the sensor I would guess, link me to the sensor in question?
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[11:12] <Strykar> Grievre, thank you. https://www.adafruit.com/products/391
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[11:12] <Strykar> https://www.adafruit.com/products/246
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[11:13] <Grievre> Yeah those are both TWI/I2C
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[11:23] <Strykar> Grievre, please bear with my ignorance, reading http://learn.adafruit.com/using-the-bmp085-with-raspberry-pi/hooking-everything-up it seems there are 2-3 pins that need connecting for that 1 module correct? My question is how many does the rpi support and do I get some sort of gpio/i2c extender to if thr rpi runs out?
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[11:28] <Grievre> Strykar: you can daisychain I2C devices
[11:28] <Grievre> Strykar: it's a serial bus
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[11:31] <TAFB_ssd> Oh BABY!!! Looks like I might ditch the Pi!!! http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2012-12-23-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_hacked_with_Arch_Linux_SSD_test_vs_RaspberryPi.png
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[11:31] <jelly1> your chart is a fail
[11:31] <TAFB_ssd> why? :(
[11:31] <jelly1> don't know what is which
[11:32] <jelly1> anyway let me guess the seagate goflex home is faster?
[11:32] <Grievre> TAFB_ssd: um, I'm assuming the major difference there is direct sata interface versus USB?
[11:32] <TAFB_ssd> they're in groups of three, so first 3 is 4k, 2nd 3 is 512k, etc.
[11:32] <TAFB_ssd> Grievre: sure damn is!
[11:33] <Grievre> TAFB_ssd: okay... how much does a goflex cost?
[11:33] <Grievre> TAFB_ssd: It looks like it's based on sheevaplug, so... old news?
[11:33] <TAFB_ssd> random write speed on Pi with SSD = 8mb/sec, random write speed on GoFlex SSD = 48mb/sec! :)
[11:33] <Grievre> TAFB_ssd: Again how much does a goflex cost? :x
[11:33] <TAFB_ssd> Grievre: Yep, except it's got a dedicated gigabit ethernet chip.
[11:33] <TAFB_ssd> vs. only 10/100 on sheeva
[11:34] <TAFB_ssd> I got a bunch for free with my $99 3TB Seagate GoFlex Externals!
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[11:34] <Grievre> okay, so... you're really comparing apples and oranges here
[11:35] <TAFB_ssd> After I moved my 30 websites and 8 email domains over to the Pi, even on SSD, it was getting murdered on 4k reads and writes :(
[11:35] <TAFB_ssd> it would be perfect, just need better i/o/network
[11:35] <Grievre> Right why would you run 30 websites and 8 email domains on a raspberry pi? :P
[11:35] <TAFB_ssd> The cpu is 1.2ghz in the seagate so that should help, plus dedicated gigabit (i.e. doesn't hog cpu time), should be sweet.
[11:35] <Grievre> that's just silly
[11:35] <TAFB_ssd> Grievre: lol
[11:35] <nid0> I fail to see where the news is there, more expensive device dedicated to one thing is better at that thing than cheap general purpose device
[11:35] <viric> TAFB_ssd: the sheeva has gigabit
[11:36] <nid0> whod have guessed!
[11:36] <TAFB_ssd> viric: the one my buddie bought recently didn't, got a link?
[11:36] <jelly1> TAFB_ssd: Pi suck at I/O
[11:36] <jelly1> TAFB_ssd: get a pandaboard :P
[11:37] <TAFB_ssd> jelly1: Yeah, i noticed
[11:37] <jelly1> usb/ethernet are shared
[11:37] <TAFB_ssd> yeah, so SSD over USB then out over Ethernet = too much sharing.
[11:37] <Grievre> does sheevaplug etc have GPIO?
[11:37] <jelly1> no
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[11:37] <nid0> no
[11:38] <viric> http://www.globalscaletechnologies.com/p-46-sheevaplug-dev-kit.aspx
[11:38] <jelly1> that's not the purpose of such a plug
[11:38] <TAFB_ssd> nice :)
[11:38] <TAFB_ssd> $100 ouch.
[11:38] <jelly1> TAFB_ssd: sure
[11:38] <jelly1> but it's faster
[11:38] <TAFB_ssd> faster than what?
[11:38] <jelly1> Pi
[11:39] <TAFB_ssd> yeah, but if I can buy a 3tb hard drive PLUS the GoFlex Home unit for $99 all in, how much could the GoFlex home thing really cost?! lol
[11:39] <viric> TAFB_ssd: $100, but that was the price 3 years ago too, has schematics, jtag, power supply, ...
[11:40] <viric> and full source, of course.
[11:40] <jelly1> TAFB_ssd: just buy a VPS
[11:40] <TAFB_ssd> this came with 12v 2amp power supply :) lol.
[11:40] <jelly1> pandaboard is ~ $120 but it has a dualcore , 1GB,
[11:40] <jelly1> hmm i thought it had sata
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[11:41] <TAFB_ssd> alright, now to get nginx and php workin on this beast, then load test time :)
[11:41] <mrmoney2012> i have samba installed - works.. the pi appears by name in my Macs finder. however occasionally it's disappearing! do i need avahi or is there some other way to keep it visible
[11:41] <jelly1> TAFB_ssd: why dont you get a vps
[11:42] <TAFB_ssd> i like hosting in-house
[11:42] <jelly1> TAFB_ssd: i wouldnt
[11:42] <TAFB_ssd> lol
[11:42] <viric> now there are other good fanless systems (atom, amd fusion, ...)
[11:42] <jelly1> atom is so slow :)
[11:42] <viric> 64-bit dualcore atom?
[11:42] <viric> what's faster and fanless? :)
[11:42] <jelly1> dunno if the new ones are any better
[11:43] <jelly1> TAFB_ssd: what do you host again?
[11:43] <TAFB_ssd> some websites and e-mail/webmail
[11:43] <jelly1> hmm
[11:43] <TAFB_ssd> was hoping to run Citadel on the Pi, but citadel doesn't support catch-all e-mail address.
[11:44] <jelly1> dualcore should be enough
[11:44] <TAFB_ssd> these are the $99 drives that came with the GoFlex units :) I connected all the drives by esata so never used the base stations :) http://likestuff.globat.com/2012-05-07-3TBseagateGoFlexHomeExternalHardDrive/2012-05-07-3TBseagateGoFlexHomeExternalHardDrive_L.jpg
[11:44] <jelly1> i would buy a vps / dedicated box since they can fix power; internets and hardware
[11:45] <jelly1> 3TB is a bit overkill for websites ;)
[11:45] <TAFB_ssd> i got dual internets and monster battery backup, and I can set up these GoFlex things as redundant cause I got a few of em
[11:45] <jelly1> lol
[11:45] <jelly1> TAFB_ssd: i see
[11:45] <gordonDrogon> chickens roasting on an open fire... (almost) http://unicorn.drogon.net/chickens.jpg
[11:45] <TAFB_ssd> lol
[11:45] <jelly1> quiet a hobby :)
[11:45] <TAFB_ssd> big time operation goin on over here ;)
[11:46] <jelly1> TAFB_ssd: load balancing too?
[11:46] <TAFB_ssd> gordonDrogon: ohhhhhh. looks tastey
[11:46] <jelly1> ;)
[11:46] <jelly1> :DD
[11:46] <TAFB_ssd> jelly1: someone wrote me a load balancing thing for my dd-wrt router! automatically hands off incoming connections to the least loaded pi on the four ports! lol
[11:47] <jelly1> TAFB_ssd: what
[11:47] <jelly1> zomg
[11:47] <jelly1> now that's neat
[11:47] <jelly1> :D
[11:47] <TAFB_ssd> the router polls the Pi's for their load, and redirects incoming connections to the one with the least load :)
[11:48] <jelly1> TAFB_ssd: and how do the two routers communicate?
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[11:48] <jelly1> \o/
[11:48] <gordonDrogon> Heh.. They will be. roasted in butter & herbs with white wine...
[11:48] <TAFB_ssd> it's only one router? it does a web request to the Pi (uses php on the Pi).
[11:48] <mrmoney2012> i have samba installed - works.. the pi appears by name in my Macs finder. however occasionally it's disappearing! do i need avahi or is there some other way to keep it visible ??? annoying as it's working apart from that???. why would the pi just disappear from the LAN
[11:49] <jelly1> TAFB_ssd: for your dual internet
[11:49] <TAFB_ssd> ohhhhhhh. It's a purple box, it's just fail over, not load sharing, I'll get the name, one sec.
[11:50] <gordonDrogon> seems like a lot of cost just to rip off movies, etc. wouldn't it be cheaper buying DVDs?
[11:50] <mrmoney2012> actually - ignore me??? haha. i unmounted and unplugged the usb shared HDD??? still samba is running...
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[11:50] <jelly1> TAFB_ssd: oh
[11:50] <jelly1> TAFB_ssd: you dont balance your webload of your two internet connections? :D
[11:50] <mrmoney2012> gordonDrogon: nice chickens - hope the temperature controls are connected to a pi
[11:51] <gordonDrogon> mrmoney2012, no! I want to cook them, not ruin them...
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[11:53] <gordonDrogon> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-20798476 <- Lego :)
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[11:55] <TAFB_ssd> alright, I better let my brain rest before I attempt to install nginx and php :) nite nite peeps
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[12:01] <Encrypt> Hi everybody
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[12:03] <plugwash> hi
[12:08] <cHarNe2> hi guys, i need some help but im not sure if it even is possible. I wanna share one of the usb-ports over the network via usbip, but the networkinterface seems to be on the same device. So when i share the port, i also share the network-interface and that wont really work :P
[12:09] <cHarNe2> anyone got any idead what i could do? http://pastie.org/5568078
[12:10] <plugwash> hmm, I thought USBIP shared individual devices not whole busses
[12:10] <plugwash> but i've only looked at it briefly
[12:10] <Encrypt> cHarNe2, You succeeded in installing USBIP on the RPi ?
[12:10] <cHarNe2> plugwash: 1-1 if the only input i will take :S
[12:11] <cHarNe2> Encrypt: ye, running archARM
[12:11] <Encrypt> cHarNe2, How did you manage do to this ?
[12:11] <Encrypt> Ah, ok...
[12:11] <cHarNe2> pacman -S usbip
[12:11] <Encrypt> ArchARM...
[12:11] <Encrypt> I've got Raspbian
[12:11] <Encrypt> And it was not that simple installing a USB-sharing software...
[12:12] <Encrypt> I've installed USB redirector
[12:12] <Encrypt> It works well for Linux computers
[12:12] <Encrypt> But it's not free for Windows :(
[12:12] <viric> what's that for?
[12:12] <cHarNe2> Encrypt: aint that propriatary? :S
[12:13] <cHarNe2> and i didnt see a arm6 version
[12:13] <Encrypt> cHarNe2, I think so...
[12:13] <Encrypt> But I couldn't get usbip working...
[12:14] <TAFB_zzz> ok, I fixed my chart so hopefully it's a little easier to ready. The red's a little hard on the eyes, but oh well :)
[12:14] <TAFB_zzz> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2012-12-23-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_hacked_with_Arch_Linux_SSD_test_vs_RaspberryPi.png
[12:14] <TAFB_zzz> nite nite sleep good peeps :)
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[12:16] <mrmoney2012> TAFB_zzz: still here ? re my slow samba problem and trying wifi nic ?
[12:16] <TAFB_zzz> yeah
[12:16] <mrmoney2012> and power line ethernet
[12:17] <TAFB_zzz> on wifi and ethernet both slow?
[12:17] <mrmoney2012> ??? well couldn't be bothered with the wifi NIC test
[12:17] <cHarNe2> Encrypt: i think it would work just fine on arch.
[12:17] <mrmoney2012> just swapped the power line ethernet ??? for a direct 10 metre connection to router.
[12:17] <TAFB_zzz> any diff?!?
[12:17] <mrmoney2012> went from 1MB/sec to 3.9 MB/sec
[12:17] <TAFB_zzz> wow!
[12:17] <TAFB_zzz> nice
[12:17] <Encrypt> mrmoney2012, Nothing is better than ethernet
[12:17] <TAFB_zzz> that's more like it
[12:18] <mrmoney2012> yip - dodgey powerline...
[12:18] <cHarNe2> but im not sure how to fix/tweak the hub-thing
[12:18] <TAFB_zzz> yeah, like I said, every time I use them I get like 1mbps :(
[12:18] <Encrypt> (Even for health reasons)
[12:18] <mrmoney2012> yip??? might have to consider knocking lots of holes in the walls
[12:18] <mrmoney2012> although i have got it plugged into a multi socket and stuff like that???
[12:19] <TAFB_zzz> mrmoney2012: did you see my new i/o throughput chart? I fixed it so it's easier to read, but harder on the eyes :) http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2012-12-23-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_hacked_with_Arch_Linux_SSD_test_vs_RaspberryPi.png
[12:19] <TAFB_zzz> mrmoney2012: my powerline ones say they have to go right into the wall outlet, no splitters, no power bars, etc.
[12:19] <mrmoney2012> yes??? i know that's best - just convenient this way - i will reconfigure a bit
[12:20] <TAFB_zzz> good stuff.
[12:20] <TAFB_zzz> it's 6:20am here, I better go to bed
[12:20] <Encrypt> TAFB_zzz, But then, if he can connect directly the RPi with Ethernet...
[12:20] <mrmoney2012> having a long ethernet patch cable around is handy.
[12:20] <TAFB_zzz> Encrypt: he has a finished house and difficult cables runs
[12:20] <Encrypt> Do you know flat wires ?
[12:20] <mrmoney2012> not very wife friendly at the moment with patch cable running across hall and kitchen floor !
[12:20] <mrmoney2012> hehe
[12:21] <TAFB_zzz> rofl
[12:21] <TAFB_zzz> nice
[12:21] <Encrypt> 1mm thick :)
[12:21] <TAFB_zzz> my gf broke up with me cause I was spending too much time with my Pi, I hope your wife is more understanding ;)
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[12:22] <TAFB_zzz> OMG i can't believe how fast this seagate box is :) copying a file from it at 100mb/sec :) woot.
[12:22] <mrmoney2012> Encrypt: link?
[12:22] <mrmoney2012> link or they don't exist ! hehe.
[12:22] <TAFB_zzz> alright, nite nite peeps. will work on turning this seagate box into a server tomorrow... 128mb ram *shudder*
[12:23] <mrmoney2012> nite
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[12:23] <Encrypt> Mr_Sheesh, Sure
[12:23] <Encrypt> I'm looking for it
[12:23] <mrmoney2012> hehe :-)
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[12:24] <mrmoney2012> sounds cool though??? need something like that
[12:24] <Encrypt> mrmoney2012, http://www.pearl.fr/reseaux/cables-reseaux/rj45-categorie-6/cable-reseau-rj45-plat-cat6-utp-2-m_PE4200.html
[12:24] <Encrypt> Available in 2, 5, 10 and 20 meters
[12:24] <Encrypt> Category 5 or 6
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[12:25] <Encrypt> I'm sorry the website is in french :?
[12:25] <mrmoney2012> ne pas de probl??me
[12:25] <Encrypt> I have bought two of these to connect a computer in the living room and my raspberry pi
[12:25] <mrmoney2012> or something like that
[12:26] <mrmoney2012> thanks - interesting stuff
[12:27] <Encrypt> You can often put the wire between the floor and the wall
[12:28] <Encrypt> There is often a difference of height of 2 or 3 millimeters
[12:28] <Encrypt> So, I put it there, and it works very well ;)
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[12:30] <Encrypt> mrmoney2012, It seems that you can also buy it there : http://www.vpi.us/cable-sf-cat6.html
[12:31] <Encrypt> But since I'm in France, I'm used to buy it on pearl.fr :?
[12:31] <Encrypt> (And even on amazon apparently)
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[12:45] <kkuno> hi
[12:45] <kkuno> I'm kkuno
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[12:46] <shiftplusone> hi
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[12:48] <kkuno> I'm going to use a rspberry pi as a mediacenter
[12:48] <kkuno> using xbmc
[12:48] <kkuno> how IR remote controls are handled?
[12:48] <kkuno> with lirc?
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[12:49] <chris_99> theres a way to control it via your existing TV control somehow
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[12:49] <chris_99> without an IR reciever on the Pi
[12:49] <kkuno> don't think so
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[12:50] <kkuno> the TV remote control signals need to be captured somehow
[12:50] <chris_99> they're captured via the TV and sent over HDMI
[12:50] <shiftplusone> nuh, chris is right, but it depends on your tv
[12:50] <shiftplusone> they don't all support it.
[12:50] <chris_99> ah
[12:50] <shiftplusone> it's done using libcec
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[12:50] <chris_99> that's the one
[12:51] <chris_99> has anyone tried that without xbmc
[12:51] <kkuno> ah well
[12:51] <kkuno> I don't have an hdmi tv
[12:51] <kkuno> so this is excluded
[12:52] <kkuno> so the alternative is lirc?
[12:52] <shiftplusone> sraue, you around?
[12:54] <kkuno> cause I have a mediacenter at home, I used lirc when I used it with linux
[12:54] <gordonDrogon> time for a break from the kitchenarium.
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[12:55] <shiftplusone> kkuno, have you googled around? have you checked which plugins/addons are available?
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[13:12] <sphenxes> is it possible to connect a wireless webcam to raspberry pi and use motion to capture the webcam video?
[13:13] <SpeedEvil> it's a Linux computer
[13:13] <SpeedEvil> can you do that with a comparable performance Linux box?
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[13:15] <sphenxes> SpeedEvil, i was looking for debian. I found it can be done with mplayer. I have never used wireless webcam on linux (only usb).
[13:20] <ParkerR_> :/ Not muc faster than my previous card http://withg.org/parkerlreed/iozone.png
[13:21] <ParkerR_> And previous for comparison http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=0Cu3bs31
[13:21] <ParkerR_> *much
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[13:21] <BCMM> SpeedEvil: a comparable-performance PC is kind of hard to come by these days. whether the CPU can handle motion-detection algorithms is, in this case, a reasonable question
[13:21] <ParkerR_> Write is a bit better but read is about the same
[13:22] <BCMM> sphenxes: what sort of wireless cam? bluetooth?
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[13:25] <sphenxes> BCMM, i planning to use the following cam. http://www.amazon.de/iClever?-Wansview-zwei-Wege-kompatibel-Nachtsicht/dp/B004DI2RBU/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_S_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=2BMP6FGPD4SB5&coliid=I1N2Q8BAKE3L6V. It is used with router
[13:26] <BCMM> sphenxes: oh of course, an 802.11 cam. built in web server, presumably?
[13:26] <sphenxes> BCMM, do you recommend any wireless cam that works on raspberry pi
[13:27] <BCMM> sphenxes: i have no idea, but surely that cam works with everything?
[13:27] <sphenxes> BCMM, thanks
[13:27] <BCMM> sphenxes: i'm afraid i can't read much german; does that cam just have a web server on it?
[13:27] <BCMM> i expect you just access it over HTTP with any browser
[13:28] <BCMM> i do not know if Motion can stream from things like that, i've only used it with actual webcams
[13:28] <BCMM> i mean, local video devices rather than network streams
[13:29] <BCMM> sphenxes: quick look at Google says that motion does support at least some IP cameras
[13:29] <BCMM> however, i don't know how much CPU power is needed to do real-time motion detection (sorry for monologue guys)
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[13:31] * _ds_ has a Fun Bug To Track Down ??? worked fine on real Acorn hardware, works fine in rpcemu, reliably stiffs the RPi??? could be a 26/32 issue???
[13:32] <_ds_> Remind me ??? I don't think that ^ has any effect in STM and LDM instructions in USR32 mode???
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[13:32] * _ds_ well remembers what it does in 26-bit modes, though
[13:34] <BCMM> sphenxes: since i had motion set up already on my desktop, i did a test - seems that it uses very little CPU
[13:34] <BCMM> sphenxes: about 1% on a core 2 duo at 1.86GHz
[13:34] <BCMM> so should run fine on a pi
[13:40] <jelly1> BCMM: just don't deocode mjpeg
[13:40] <jelly1> since the silly gpu won't decode it :(
[13:40] <BCMM> jelly1: can't the CPU do it?
[13:40] <jelly1> sure but that's stupid
[13:41] <BCMM> it's only 640x480
[13:41] <jelly1> uses 60% cpu here
[13:41] <BCMM> ah
[13:41] <BCMM> what frame-rate?
[13:41] <jelly1> opencv just going frame by frame through a mjpeg stream
[13:41] <jelly1> 10 fps
[13:41] <BCMM> but how much of that is opencv vs. decoding overhead?
[13:42] <jelly1> not sure
[13:42] <jelly1> opencv does nothing
[13:42] <BCMM> how do you mean?
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[13:42] <BCMM> i think what motion does is substantially simpler than what opencv can do
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[13:42] <BCMM> but yeah, hadn't thought of the extra work of decoding the network stream, vs. just using a local uncompressed video source
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[13:43] <jelly1> yes but thhe gpu should just get mjpeg support
[13:43] <jelly1> imo
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[13:45] <SpeedEvil> 'should' doesn't mean it exists now and is usable
[13:46] <jelly1> it isn't in the firmware atm, which is stupid :p
[13:47] <shiftplusone> anything about that on the forum from liz, dom or gert?
[13:47] <jelly1> dom said there wasnt support for mjpeg iiirc
[13:48] <shiftplusone> I saw that the GPU has the capability to support mjpeg, so it should be possible to just enable it in the firmware.
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[13:49] <jelly1> hmm
[13:49] <shiftplusone> Might be a good idea to find that post, quote it and ask what gives
[13:50] <shiftplusone> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/592
[13:50] <shiftplusone> "Dom adds: As an aside, the GPU can hardware decode H264, MPEG1/2/4, VC1, AVS, MJPG at 1080p30. It can software (but still vector accelerated) decode VP6, VP7, VP8, RV, Theora, WMV9 at DVD resolutions. We are restricted due to licensing what we can support. We should be able to support VP8, MJPG and Theora, as I believe they are license free."
[13:51] <jelly1> ok
[13:51] <jelly1> so why doesn't it support them ;)
[13:51] <shiftplusone> and I think mjpg is free
[13:51] <jelly1> theora/vp8 should imo be supported
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[13:52] <jelly1> would mean more CPU for opencv :)
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[13:54] <shiftplusone> are you going to ask on the forum?
[13:54] <mrmoney2012> gordonDrogon: need advice yet again - my first LED is in play??? ! any chance you are around
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[13:54] <jelly1> shiftplusone: does Don read that?
[13:54] <jelly1> or any other
[13:55] <shiftplusone> Yes, I see posts from them once in a while. The firmware related questions seem to be answered or at least acknolwedged
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[13:55] <jelly1> aha
[13:55] <jelly1> would mean creating an account :(
[13:55] <shiftplusone> I might ask in the mod only section or msg liz if you don't get a response. But I'd rather avoid bugging them directly.
[13:56] <jelly1> hehe
[13:56] <jelly1> can't fill a githib request
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[13:58] <jelly1> ok account made
[13:58] <jelly1> *created
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[14:00] <jelly1> shiftplusone: is there a subform?
[14:00] <Hopsy> how do I connect two computers by a utp/lan cable
[14:00] <shiftplusone> hang on, a bit busy right now
[14:00] <jelly1> Hopsy: a switch/router
[14:01] <Hopsy> without that
[14:01] <jelly1> shiftplusone: i guess feedback/requests ;)
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[14:02] <Hopsy> jelly1: is there a program that imitates a switch/router?
[14:02] <jelly1> yes, buy you're not looking for that
[14:02] <jelly1> Hopsy: you don't have a router?
[14:03] <Hopsy> not between them
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[14:03] <Hopsy> they are directly connected now
[14:03] <jelly1> could try to connect them directly
[14:03] <john_f> Hopsy: pi has crossover detection, so just connect them directly
[14:04] <Hopsy> john_f: okay and now? :p
[14:04] <Hopsy> they are connected
[14:04] <john_f> set a static ip
[14:04] <john_f> on both ends
[14:04] <Hopsy> I did that
[14:04] <Hopsy> but didnt work
[14:05] <john_f> Hopsy: ok...what is the error when you ping the ip?
[14:06] <Hopsy> I dont have an ip, thats the problem
[14:06] <jelly1> set one
[14:06] <Hopsy> I did change the settings in /etc/network/interfaces
[14:06] <Hopsy> iface eth0 inet static
[14:07] <Hopsy> added an address, network, netmask. broadcast and gateway
[14:07] <Hopsy> then I did a networking restart
[14:07] <Hopsy> but ifconfig didnt show an ip address
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[14:07] <jelly1> just set it by hand
[14:08] <Hopsy> by hand?
[14:08] <frikinz> is eth0 set as auto?
[14:08] <Hopsy> how you mean
[14:08] <Hopsy> I think so, wait I will check
[14:08] <Hopsy> hold on
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[14:08] <john_f> ifconfig or ip addr
[14:09] <shiftplusone> jelly1, yup, I think feedback and requests is fine.
[14:09] <frikinz> restart stop all if but only restarts auto ones
[14:09] <jelly1> shiftplusone: ok
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[14:10] <Hopsy> auto lo
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[14:12] <sraue> shiftplusone, now i am
[14:12] <shiftplusone> sraue, kkuno was asking about using remote controls in xbmc without libcec, possible using lirc. Though you'd be the person to ask.
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[14:13] <jelly1> shiftplusone: done!
[14:13] <kkuno> yeah
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[14:13] <kkuno> sraue, I have this remote command:
[14:13] <kkuno> http://aron.ws/projects/lirc_rpi/
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[14:14] <kkuno> see the pic at the bottom of the page
[14:14] <kkuno> I have that one
[14:14] <sraue> shiftplusone, kkuno yes you can use lirc, or like openelec does - for most remotes - eventlircd, which works for 80-90% of all remotes
[14:14] <kkuno> mmh ok
[14:15] <Hopsy> john_f and frikinz http://pastebin.com/etbJSnkY
[14:15] <kkuno> sraue, does xbmc support lirc without run lirc daemons and scripts?
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[14:15] <kkuno> or do I need to map manually the remote to standard keys with lirc daemon?
[14:15] <sraue> kkuno, can you axplain (again) what you want do/try? i dont have followed any earlyer conversation here
[14:15] <jelly1> shiftplusone: topic approved :)
[14:16] <kkuno> I will use the rpi only with xbmc
[14:16] <shiftplusone> jelly1, yeah, I just did that
[14:16] <jelly1> shiftplusone: woot
[14:16] <kkuno> so I need a way to use that remote with xbmc
[14:16] <frikinz> Hopsy: try ifup eth0
[14:16] <Hopsy> I already tried yesterday to do ifup
[14:16] <sraue> kkuno, with which receiver?
[14:17] <Hopsy> but he didnt undestand that command
[14:17] <Hopsy> I will try again,wait
[14:18] <Hopsy> aha :p
[14:18] <Hopsy> it works
[14:18] <Hopsy> thanks frikinz!
[14:19] <kkuno> sraue, I don't know actually, I'm a bit confused about that
[14:19] <kkuno> I have a bought case
[14:19] <kkuno> with integrated receiver
[14:19] <john_f> Hopsy: don't use the same ip range as on wlan0. if you want to get the pi online you need to bridge the interfaces or nat.
[14:19] <kkuno> later this day I will open that box and see
[14:20] <Hopsy> okay
[14:21] <sraue> kkuno, which case? you know the vendor/modell from the case?
[14:22] <sraue> and... its connected via USB?
[14:22] <kkuno> sraue, sure, it's this one:
[14:22] <kkuno> http://www.thermaltakeusa.com/Product.aspx?C=1319&ID=1426
[14:22] <kkuno> don't know, I will check later if it is usb
[14:23] <sraue> whoa... you want insert how many RPi's? :-)
[14:23] <kkuno> ahahah
[14:23] <kkuno> no I will remove the receiver from that box
[14:23] <kkuno> or build a simple gpio receiver
[14:24] <sphenxes> BCMM, thanks once more. i was away from my computer
[14:24] <sraue> hehe :-) it looks like a imon LCD/Remote/Receiver, the remote should work out of the box with openelec... what distro you want use?
[14:24] <kkuno> I don't have a rpi yet... but I don't know what openelec it
[14:24] <kkuno> I will check it
[14:25] <sraue> kkuno, www.openelec.tv, a minimal embedded distro to run XBMC (primary)
[14:25] <BCMM> sphenxes: np; but read jelly1 said, decoding the MJPEG stream adds a substantial overhead that isn't there with a local webcam
[14:25] <BCMM> sphenxes: (and i was testing with an uncompressed USB webcam)
[14:26] <kkuno> oh
[14:26] <kkuno> ok
[14:27] <kkuno> thanks
[14:27] <Hopsy> john_f: should my gateway ip address match with the raspberrypi?
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[14:28] <john_f> Hopsy: gateway doesn't matter if you are not using nat/bridging
[14:28] <Hopsy> http://gyazo.com/8c971d0429f02f0383c111eb8829f05c.png?1356269317
[14:29] <Hopsy> hmm, I cant ping to id
[14:29] <Hopsy> it
[14:30] <john_f> Hopsy: make them both 192.168.1. not 0.
[14:30] <john_f> Hopsy: the ip addresses i mean
[14:30] <Hopsy> aha, it works now
[14:31] <Hopsy> cool
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[14:36] <shiftplusone> sraue, while you're around. Is the libcec thing supported by all TVs with hdmi, or is it an additional feature that's not always available?
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[14:38] <gordonDrogon> having a break for a few mins.
[14:39] <danergo> hi guys! i used my PI with sdtv and now I switched to hdmi. But unfortunately the screen resoltion is not fine. the output of the PI is drawed to the top left corner of my tv (and the size of the outuput is about a quarter of the whole screen)
[14:39] <gordonDrogon> 2 loafs of break to make, a tray of chocolate brownies and 2 lemon tortes to go - one more bread tomorrow and I'm done...
[14:39] <danergo> I tried setting the modes to everything, what can I do?
[14:39] <gordonDrogon> danergo, comment out all the mode settings & start again?
[14:39] <Encrypt> danergo, Did you have a look at your TV options ? :?
[14:39] <danergo> yes, tried.
[14:39] <Encrypt> Mokay...
[14:39] <gordonDrogon> then fiddle with the TV's controlls.
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[14:39] <danergo> also tried deleting the config.txt
[14:40] <gordonDrogon> Hm.
[14:40] <gordonDrogon> TV probably isn't being recognised then. Some aren't (like mine)
[14:40] <Encrypt> danergo, I don't think dleting the config.txt file is such a good idea...
[14:40] <gordonDrogon> I had to manually set the settings for mine.
[14:40] <gordonDrogon> Encrypt, deleting it is ok - everything just gets the defaults then.
[14:40] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, Ok
[14:41] <gordonDrogon> my config is: http://unicorn.drogon.net/config.txt that's for my 720p TV via HDMI.
[14:41] <danergo> yes, I read this somewhere
[14:41] <danergo> my tv is saying resolution is 1920*1084i
[14:41] <gordonDrogon> screen res. for me is 1366x768
[14:41] <danergo> but the output is a quarter of the screen
[14:42] <gordonDrogon> try the numbers explicityl on the Pi - ie. change my 1366x767 to your 19290x1080...
[14:42] <gordonDrogon> and see what happens...
[14:44] <danergo> I'm trying, thanks
[14:45] <shiftplusone> jelly1, regarding mjpg "Actually there in some argument in house (Broadcom) whether this IS supported. Not difficult to implement if necessary."
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> if you still get a small image, then I'd suspect that your TV is somehow scaling the picture.
[14:45] <jelly1> shiftplusone: hmm
[14:45] <jelly1> lol
[14:47] <danergo> It's the same, sorry :((((
[14:47] <sraue> shiftplusone, it depends on the tv, some vendors using a own "standard" like some LG TVs, there you have problems. afaik with samsung/sony etc works really good... but my old LG tv had problems or was supported partly... also some (cheap) TVs (or brands) maybe dont support CEC
[14:47] <danergo> the output is at the topleft corner
[14:47] <shiftplusone> sraue, thanks
[14:47] <danergo> it's raspbmc by the way
[14:48] <danergo> first the logo displayed at center, which I think is great
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[14:48] <danergo> then a smaller logo gets displayed as well in the top left quarter's center
[14:48] <danergo> and there will be the actual xmbc skin after a while
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> I don't think the Pi will scale the output - especially if you've explicitly told it the screen resolution to use.
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[14:49] <danergo> hm
[14:49] <danergo> what else can I try?
[14:49] <gordonDrogon> standard raspbian, just in-case?
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[14:52] <danergo> actually it wont help, since I'd like to use raspbmc at the end :)
[14:53] <Hopsy> I think I have a little problem here :')
[14:54] <Hopsy> how do I change a file if sudo doesnt work?
[14:54] <gordonDrogon> work out why sudo isn't working.
[14:54] <Encrypt> What do you mean "Changing a file" ?
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[14:54] <Hopsy> I changed visudo
[14:54] <Encrypt> Located in /etc or something like that ?
[14:55] <Encrypt> And you are not allowed to execute sudo instructions ?
[14:55] <Hopsy> placed an # before %sudo
[14:55] <gordonDrogon> if you want to run visudo, then you need to use sudo, so: sudo visudo
[14:55] <Hopsy> pi is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
[14:55] <gordonDrogon> Oh.
[14:55] <Hopsy> how do I become root
[14:55] <gordonDrogon> Did you set a root password?
[14:56] <Hopsy> uhm, only a password for pi
[14:56] <Encrypt> Hopsy, Otherwise...
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> ok.
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> do you have another Linux PC?
[14:56] <Encrypt> Hopsy, Your Pi is telling you "THE GAME"
[14:56] <Hopsy> no
[14:56] <gordonDrogon> you're pretty much stuffed then.
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> re-install.
[14:57] <Encrypt> The only thing you can do is reinstalling your system
[14:57] <Hopsy> cool! I did it
[14:57] <Hopsy> yeah
[14:57] <Hopsy> thanks :p
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> ? how?
[14:57] <Hopsy> format
[14:58] <gordonDrogon> format what?
[14:58] <Hopsy> ssd
[14:59] <Hopsy> SD*
[14:59] <Hopsy> there was nothing on it
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[14:59] <gordonDrogon> when you boot it again, you might want to set a root password, then you can use the regular su command.
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[15:01] <Hopsy> lemme see
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[15:09] <Encrypt> Hopsy, Yes, immediately set a root password
[15:09] <Encrypt> I did configure my pi when I changed the sudoer user
[15:09] <Encrypt> The file /etc/sudoers I made was not suitable and I had to reinstall everyting since I didn't set a (known) root password
[15:10] <Encrypt> Just "sudo su" and the "passwd"
[15:10] <viric> how can I make raspbian not delete /tmp on boot?
[15:10] <Encrypt> (And choose a very strong password, it's imporatant)
[15:10] <viric> I'm reading the init scripts.... and it looks like a game for reverse engineers
[15:11] <gordonDrogon> sudo -i is maybe better than sudo su (I think)
[15:11] <Encrypt> I don't know the difference :?
[15:11] <gordonDrogon> /tmp/ is designed to be deleted on boot.
[15:11] <Encrypt> Just that the variables which are set are different...
[15:11] <gordonDrogon> that's why it's called 'tmp' - sort for temporary.
[15:11] <viric> gordonDrogon: I don't want that decision taken by other than me
[15:12] <gordonDrogon> viric, you're going against 35 years of Unix philosophy.
[15:12] <gordonDrogon> viric, use /var/tmp instead.
[15:12] <viric> /tmp is less temporary than /var/tmp?
[15:12] <viric> (cough)
[15:12] <gordonDrogon> on most of my machines, /tmp/ is a ramdisk now anyway.
[15:13] <viric> well, this isn't of much help.
[15:13] <gordonDrogon> it's up to you. mkdir -p /var/tmp ; chmod 1777 /var/tmp
[15:13] <gordonDrogon> then you just need to make sure that your programs use /var/tmp rather than /tmp
[15:13] <gordonDrogon> export TMP=/var/tmp
[15:13] <gordonDrogon> mkdir help.
[15:14] <gordonDrogon> or it is TMPDIR, I forgeto.
[15:14] <Encrypt> viric, WHat is your goal exactly ?
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[15:15] <biberao> yo
[15:15] <biberao> !!
[15:15] <gordonDrogon> if you really want to preserve it, then know that your solution will only work on your own Pi's (which is ok), but you must *never* assume it will work on other peoples Pis, not must you release a package that changes the default behaviour.
[15:15] <Encrypt> gordonDrogon, Maybe there is a better solution, it depends of the aim...
[15:16] <viric> My pi hangs from time to time. tmp files have some value for a short amount of time, but I have hangs between them.
[15:16] <gordonDrogon> so if you want to change it, then edit /etc/init.d/ some files - probably: bootmisc.sh but there are others.
[15:16] <viric> So it's not a desired reboot.
[15:16] <Encrypt> viric, Just rsync /tmp ! :?
[15:16] <gordonDrogon> I'd start by looking at the logs to find out why it's hanging.
[15:17] <viric> I changed /lib/init/bootclean or so. clean_tmp commented
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[15:18] <TomWij> viric: Next time `grep -r tmp /etc/init.d` will help you pinpoint where you would need to change this.
[15:18] <biberao> whats the best way to use wifi for the pi
[15:18] <biberao> for command line
[15:18] <biberao> netfg?
[15:19] <viric> TomWij: that is 50 lines. too much
[15:19] <viric> :)
[15:19] <john_f> biberao: depends on the distro
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[15:19] <viric> And... well, I guess that commenting init script lines isn't the way to go
[15:19] <biberao> john_f: raspbian
[15:19] <TomWij> viric: And it only takes you a second to spot the clean line...
[15:20] <TomWij> viric: Of course it's the way to go, why wouln't it be?
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[15:20] <viric> I don't know. a config option somewhere about cleaning or not?
[15:20] <biberao> maybe i should use xbmc
[15:20] <viric> I've seen some dance of '.clean' and '.tmpfs', but I can't figure it out what is it about
[15:20] <TomWij> john_f: What does distro have to do with this?
[15:20] <TomWij> biberao: I don't see how xbmc is going to give you wireless.
[15:20] <john_f> biberao: it has wpa_gui
[15:21] <john_f> in the desktop tray
[15:21] <biberao> ya
[15:21] <biberao> john_f: which one?
[15:21] <biberao> TomWij: im used to command line for everything
[15:21] <biberao> maybe i was going to use netcfg
[15:21] <viric> TomWij: what is, according to you, 'the line' I should comment?
[15:21] <TomWij> biberao: It depends on what your definition of "best" is, but if "best" is to be considered low level then wpa_supplicant and the nl80211 wireless extension will do.
[15:22] <TomWij> (Alongside iw for manually configuring)
[15:22] <john_f> biberao: i like netcfg but I am an archlinux user
[15:22] <viric> three pieces call clean_all
[15:22] <biberao> john_f: but archlinux
[15:22] <biberao> also has netcfg
[15:22] <biberao> ive installed archlinux before by using that
[15:22] <TomWij> viric: I have different init scripts than you.
[15:22] <biberao> and using none of their tools
[15:22] <john_f> so I am biased
[15:23] <john_f> but networkmanager and wicd have cli/ncurses tools
[15:23] <TomWij> I directly spot "/etc/init.d/bootmisc:# Clean up /tmp directories" amongst them and the lines below that make me change that behavior.
[15:23] <viric> TomWij: ah ok
[15:23] <biberao> going to power up the pi
[15:23] <biberao> im already using a usb for the keyboard and mouse
[15:23] <biberao> wireless
[15:23] <TomWij> viric: If you need to get rid of the tmpfs results, `grep -r \/tmp /etc/init.d` will just give those with /tmp.
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[15:26] <biberao> does raspbian have a gui by default?
[15:26] <Encrypt> A desktop and graphical interface ?
[15:26] <Encrypt> Yes
[15:26] <Encrypt> Just startx after instalation
[15:26] <Encrypt> installation*
[15:27] <TomWij> Does xbmc/xbmc on GitHub have full Raspberry Pi support or should I go for a fork?
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[15:28] <biberao> thanks
[15:28] <TomWij> I'm currently on a deprecated OpenELEC fork and can use an upgrade...
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[15:31] <biberao> TomWij: i might install xbmc
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[15:34] <TomWij> Oh, it isn't deprecated, there's a xbmc-fixes branch.
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[15:41] <biberao> brb
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[15:48] <Ryanteck> Hi
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[15:50] <biberao> back
[15:50] <Ryanteck> Hi :D
[15:50] <sraue> TomWij, OpenELEC is no fork... :-)
[15:51] <biberao> hi
[15:51] <biberao> i have connected the usb wifi card
[15:51] <biberao> which app you guys advise the?
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[15:53] <TomWij> sraue: I said "OpenELEC fork", not "OpenELEC'...
[15:54] <advancednewbie> :-)
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[15:54] <sraue> oh so openelec is forked ? :-)
[15:54] <advancednewbie> You have to spoon before you fork.
[15:55] <TomWij> sraue: You can see that on GitHub, just like the OpenELEC fork of XBMC.
[15:55] <biberao> i need to connect to wifi through comand line
[15:55] <biberao> wpa2 |:
[15:56] <TomWij> We already had this conversation biberao, did you lose your memory while you were away? :D
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[15:57] <biberao> TomWij: i had
[15:57] <biberao> but im unsure if i could use the network network configuration and then use wpa_supplicant.conf
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[15:58] <Hopsy> when I change the boot behaviour to start desktop on boot, what happens actually?
[15:58] <Hopsy> where does raspberrypi save this settings?
[15:59] <plugwash> I don't know for sure but I expect it just enables/disables the starting of lightdb though the normal init mechanisms
[15:59] <plugwash> the source code for rpi-config is available if you want to know exactly what it's doing
[15:59] <plugwash> sorry raspi-config
[16:00] <plugwash> in fact it looks like raspi-config is actually just a script so you can just read it, no need to go looking for the source
[16:02] <Ryanteck> Raspi-config is just a bash script that edits the boot file and some other files depending on settings I beleive
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[16:03] <advancednewbie> Check /etc/init.d there's probably a bash script in there.
[16:03] <biberao> damnz i screwed up
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[16:05] <advancednewbie> Check /etc/init.d/lightdm
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[16:06] <advancednewbie> I knew it
[16:06] <advancednewbie> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=21836&p=207358
[16:06] <plugwash> looking at the code for raspi-config it seems it uses update-rc.d to enable and disable starting of lightdm in runlevel 2
[16:07] <plugwash> and when enabling graphical startup it also edits the lightdm config to enable auto-login
[16:07] <advancednewbie> sudo update-rc.d lightdm disable 2
[16:07] <advancednewbie> sudo update-rc.d lightdm enable 2
[16:07] <Hopsy> where is it located?
[16:07] <Hopsy> I cant find raspi-config?
[16:07] <advancednewbie> This is the command the script does: sed /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf -i -e "s/^#autologin-user=.*/autologin-user=pi/"
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[16:08] <advancednewbie> try whereis raspi-config
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[16:09] <Hopsy> owh, its raspi
[16:09] <Hopsy> aha
[16:09] <advancednewbie> lol
[16:09] <advancednewbie> Good, I kinda wanted to know the answer to this too.
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[16:15] <schemanen> if I want to run for example sudo vcgencmd measure_volts core in a PHP script I get permission denied, how can I solve this?
[16:17] <pksato> include php/httpd user on suoders and permit to run vcgencmd.
[16:17] <pksato> use visudo to edit sudoers.
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[16:20] <plugwash> the user you are looking for is probablly www-data
[16:21] <schemanen> ok, I will have a look , thanks
[16:21] <biberao> shoot cant make wpa_supplicant work
[16:21] <biberao> :|
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[16:30] <greenelfs> Does AirPlay video work for anyone on Xbian?
[16:31] <biberao> wpa_gui cant see my interfaced
[16:32] <john_f> biberao: modprobe the kernel module or install fimrware?
[16:33] <john_f> assuming ip l doesn't show the interface
[16:33] <biberao> it shows
[16:33] <biberao> and the module is detected
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[16:34] <john_f> rfkill?
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[16:34] <biberao> for?
[16:35] <john_f> yeah nvm
[16:36] <biberao> im confused
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[16:36] <biberao> i cant make it scan either
[16:36] <biberao> :|
[16:36] <john_f> dmesg shows errors?
[16:37] <biberao> nope
[16:40] <biberao> i believe its a issue related with wpa_supplicant
[16:45] <john_f> you can edit wpa_supplicant.conf and run it manually
[16:46] <john_f> then dhcpcd
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[16:51] <Hopsy> I want to run a script before my desktop runs, where should I place this?
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[16:52] <biberao> is it possible
[16:52] <Hopsy> I think so?
[16:52] <biberao> oh sorry
[16:52] <biberao> i meant something else
[16:52] <biberao> i was going to ask if it posibble to change ntsc to pal
[16:53] <greenelfs> Has anyone successfully ran airplay videos on xbian? >_<
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[16:58] <john_f> biberao: yes, tvservice or config.txt
[16:58] <UnaClocker> greenelfs: I do it all the time on RaspBMC..
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[16:59] <greenelfs> Do you know why it crashes whenever I play videos?
[16:59] <UnaClocker> no, haven't encountered that.
[16:59] <greenelfs> from the camera app on my iPad, it just crashes completely, but on Netflix is just streams teh audio
[16:59] <UnaClocker> I imagine with netflix, it's some kind of DRM issue.
[17:00] <UnaClocker> I usually use airplay for YouTube content.
[17:01] <greenelfs> I'll try doing Youtube later, but all music (pandora, music app, etc) work perfectly
[17:01] <TomWij> Hopsy: You should place it before your desktop.
[17:01] <UnaClocker> That's cool, I never really tried the music. I have all my MP3's on the network share along with my movies..
[17:02] <Hopsy> TomWij: [16:07:51] <+advancednewbie> This is the command the script does: sed /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf -i -e "s/^#autologin-user=.*/autologin-user=pi/"
[17:02] <Hopsy> I think before that line
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[17:04] <Aranel> quick question: transmission or rutorrent?
[17:05] <rymate1234> I use transmission on Ubuntu
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[17:07] <UnaClocker> I've always used transmission on my sheevaplug.. Run the daemon and it's got a nice web interface on port 9091
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[17:09] <Aranel> I'd prefer Transmission too, just wondering if there's a significant performance hit
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[17:10] <UnaClocker> The daemon version uses virtually no resources. It's extremely light.
[17:12] <Aranel> UnaClocker: daemon version? you mean "transmission-daemon" and "transmission" packages right?
[17:12] <Hopsy> how does apt-get install works? I dont have internet on my internet, can I download the packages on an usb and install manually on my raspberrypi?
[17:13] <UnaClocker> If you have a .deb to install manually, it's something like dpkg -i packagename.deb
[17:14] <Hopsy> hmm
[17:14] <Hopsy> UnaClocker: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-send-wake-on-lan-wol-magic-packets.html
[17:14] <Hopsy> this is what I need
[17:15] <Aranel> Hopsy: you could browse to http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/ , download them, transfer them via usb then run dpkg -i packagename
[17:16] <UnaClocker> Here's my stats for transmission on my sheevaplug: una 6934 1.6 8.7 78312 44988 ? Ssl Jul25 3612:02 transmission-daemon
[17:16] <UnaClocker> been running since late July, hehe.. looks like it is using quite a bit of ram, though..
[17:17] <UnaClocker> 8.7% of 512mb...
[17:17] <Hopsy> Aranel: thanks, it works!
[17:17] <Hopsy> ls
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[17:18] <Aranel> UnaClocker: but it's not idling i guess?
[17:18] <pksato> Hopsy: use apt-offline
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[17:19] <Hopsy> what is that pksato?
[17:19] <UnaClocker> Aranel: Nope, it's got 10 active transfers at the moment.
[17:19] <pksato> http://packages.debian.org/pt-br/sid/apt-offline
[17:24] <frikinz> I am about to use for the first time my raspberry for a bit of multimedia :) I don't have X on it. My music is reachable through upnp/dnla or a samba share. What could I use on the pi to remotely play my music (that is have some remote interface to change tracks?)
[17:25] <TomWij> Hopsy: Are you trying WoL on your RPi? Can you report back to me whether you get it working?
[17:25] <frikinz> Anything that has an android client. I'll have a look at mpc/mpd
[17:25] <Hopsy> TomWij: yeah
[17:26] <Hopsy> I want to start my pc, when I start raspberrypi :p
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[17:27] <TomWij> Ah, I thought you were trying to wake the RPi itself.
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[17:28] <UnaClocker> conky is great
[17:29] <Hopsy> TomWij: that is impossible
[17:29] <Hopsy> read the faq
[17:29] <TomWij> Hopsy: Which FAQ?
[17:29] <Hopsy> TomWij: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/126/how-do-i-enable-wake-on-lan
[17:30] <Hopsy> I saw it also in the faq
[17:30] <TomWij> Hopsy: That's not an official FAQ and if you read further than the accepted answer you'll see that it is in fact possible.
[17:30] <TomWij> Also see the comments on the accepted answer.
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[17:31] <Hopsy> owh
[17:31] <Hopsy> sorry
[17:31] <TomWij> The chipset supports it, Linux supports it, the only thing that is really in the way is the firmware afaik.
[17:32] <TomWij> And the firmware is just a matter of filing an issue at the RPi GitHub.
[17:32] <Hopsy> TomWij: but, how do you want to shutdown?
[17:32] <TomWij> Hopsy: `shutdown -h now`
[17:32] <Hopsy> the raspberrypi
[17:32] <Hopsy> to wake on lan
[17:32] <Hopsy> hmm
[17:32] <Hopsy> lemme try
[17:33] <TomWij> The power light will be still be on, but other than that it'll be completely halted.
[17:33] <TomWij> And I'd think the halted state would be enough to let it kick back into boot when send a WoL packet.
[17:33] <TomWij> Just needs someone to try and someone to ask at the firmware writers.
[17:34] <TomWij> s/writers/developers/
[17:34] <TomWij> I might try later as it would be a nice way to turn its services on and off.
[17:34] <Hopsy> hmm, all lights did go down except the power light
[17:34] <TomWij> Because telling it to shut down everything except SSH is slightly more tricky. :P
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[17:36] <UnaClocker> The lan on the Pi is a USB device, you'd have to keep the USB stack running, and the driver going... Not really asleep in that context...
[17:37] <Hopsy> owh, that is why all lights went down except the red one
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[17:44] <Hopsy> TomWij: even shutdown doesnt work in this program (through lan) :') http://gyazo.com/4da4509dac124d1838982bcf484943b4.png?1356281021
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[18:08] <advancednewbie> Hopsy, yes before that line, but then is does sed /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf -i -e "s/^#autologin-user=.*/autologin-user=pi/"
[18:08] <advancednewbie> I already mentioned: <advancednewbie> sudo update-rc.d lightdm enable 2
[18:09] <Cykey> I found out that the "Wifi config" tool fails to connect if you have a hidden network (Broadcast SSID to off)
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[18:21] <biberao> ok thanks
[18:21] <biberao> john_f:
[18:21] <biberao> Datalink: you here?
[18:21] <Datalink> hey gordonDrogon, what's the recomended button config? pullup or pulldown?
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[18:22] <Datalink> yes, actually, what's up?
[18:22] <biberao> got a min?
[18:22] <Datalink> sure
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[18:25] <Encrypt> UnaClocker, Hi !
[18:25] <biberao> wpa_gui should display my wifi card no?
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[18:26] <Encrypt> UnaClocker, I'm sure you have dreamt about the RPi Saver yesterday night :?
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[18:30] <ParkerR_> TAFB_zzz, zzz
[18:31] <TAFB_zzz> ParkerR_: :)
[18:31] * TAFB_zzz is now known as TAFB_ssd
[18:31] <TAFB_ssd> chart, Chart, CHART! :) http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2012-12-23-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_hacked_with_Arch_Linux_SSD_test_vs_RaspberryPi.png
[18:31] <ParkerR_> TAFB_ssd, http://withg.org/parkerlreed/iozone.png
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[18:32] <TAFB_ssd> png parker? wtf am I supposed to do wif that?
[18:32] <ParkerR_> TAFB_ssd, :( I couldnt copy pasta
[18:32] <ParkerR_> Ran it on the Pi
[18:33] <TAFB_ssd> awww damn
[18:33] <TAFB_ssd> putty, windows, copy paste = win
[18:33] <TAFB_ssd> i can still make u chart, you want one?
[18:33] <ParkerR_> TAFB_ssd, Basically better write, and about the same read speed
[18:33] <ParkerR_> TAFB_ssd, http://withg.org/parkerlreed/chart22.wks
[18:33] <ParkerR_> SURE :D
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[18:33] <biberao> TAFB_ssd: do you us ewifi on pi?
[18:34] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh .wks makes it easy :)
[18:34] <ParkerR_> I like wicd-curses on the Pi
[18:34] <TAFB_ssd> never heard of ewifi, on Pi I was using wifi_gui thing in lxde/xwindows.
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[18:34] <ParkerR_> wicd-curses you can do from terminal :D
[18:34] <ParkerR_> Connect to networks and such
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[18:35] <biberao> i meant "use"
[18:36] <biberao> i cant get it work
[18:36] <TAFB_ssd> brb. chart :)
[18:36] <ParkerR_> :)
[18:36] <biberao> that wpa_gui doesnt work for me
[18:36] <biberao> ParkerR_: wicd is nice then?
[18:36] <ParkerR_> Yeah
[18:36] <ParkerR_> Except it runs its own daemon
[18:37] <ParkerR_> So it's one extra thing running in the background
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[18:37] <biberao> i cant make it work here
[18:37] <biberao> man :|
[18:37] <biberao> im trying to configure wpa_supplicant
[18:37] <ParkerR_> biberao, What cant you make work?
[18:37] <biberao> for wpa2 and aes
[18:38] <biberao> and use wpa_gui
[18:38] <ParkerR_> Try wicd
[18:38] <ParkerR_> It may work
[18:38] <biberao> Could not connect to wpa_supplicant - re-trying <- wpa_cli
[18:38] <Neqoxec> Are there any 16:9 low resolution modes? tried hdmi_mode 1-9 and they all seem to be 4:3
[18:39] <TAFB_ssd> ParkerR_: was that test on SD card?
[18:39] <ParkerR_> Neqoxec, What is this outputting to?
[18:39] <ParkerR_> TAFB_ssd, On the class 10
[18:40] <Neqoxec> ParkerR_: hdmi to 720p tv
[18:40] <TAFB_ssd> nice random 4k read/write speeds :)
[18:40] <TAFB_ssd> chart comin up.
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[18:40] <ParkerR_> Neqoxec, Try mode 4 and make sure the TV is set to 16:9
[18:41] <ParkerR_> 4 is a 16:9 res
[18:42] <frikinz> I'm currently playing my music with mpg321. Anyone know what I could use to change tracks, or even get a remote browser? mmhh? I thought about a webservice. mpd has too many dependencies. I have no X.
[18:42] <ParkerR_> Neqoxec, Make sure hdmi_group is not set to 2
[18:42] <ParkerR_> It make have been choosing the 640x480 DMT
[18:43] <Neqoxec> ParkerR_: I've tried both DMT/CEA, but I'll check out 4 again. thanks
[18:43] <ParkerR_> Do CEA mode 4
[18:43] <TAFB_ssd> ParkerR_: CHART! http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2012-12-23-iozone_speed_test_ParkerR_.png
[18:44] <TAFB_ssd> woot
[18:44] <ParkerR_> :D
[18:44] <TAFB_ssd> i'm moving it, put it in wrong folder, lol
[18:44] <biberao> please help me setup wifi
[18:44] <TAFB_ssd> I put it in my seagate hack folder :)
[18:44] <TAFB_ssd> lol
[18:44] <ParkerR_> Dat random read 16mb
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[18:45] <TAFB_ssd> that's way better than most cards ;)
[18:45] <TAFB_ssd> the 4k write is WAY better than most cards too
[18:46] <ParkerR_> TAFB_ssd, What are you making the chart with?
[18:46] <TAFB_ssd> excel :(
[18:46] <ParkerR_> I tried that
[18:46] <TAFB_ssd> lo
[18:46] <TAFB_ssd> lol
[18:46] <ParkerR_> Couldn't get it to be sane
[18:47] <ParkerR_> TAFB_ssd, Mind sharing the template?
[18:47] <ParkerR_> So all one would have to do is just replace values
[18:47] <TAFB_ssd> i'll give ya the template, all you do is open the .wks file that it spits out, and copy and paste the data over the existing data and poof, chart.
[18:47] <TAFB_ssd> 1 sec.
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[18:52] <Encrypt> By the way, what I'm going to say is completely offtopic but you might be interested...
[18:52] <Encrypt> I've discovered a software on Windows which allows you to have a faster internet connexion
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[18:53] <TAFB_ssd> ParkerR_: Try this: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/iozone_excel_chart_for_ParkerR_.xls
[18:53] <frikinz> biberao: what's the problem?
[18:53] <Encrypt> It uses Peer2peer systems, better DNS servers, the system of buffer...
[18:53] <ParkerR_> Hmm
[18:53] <TAFB_ssd> ParkerR_: paste your data directly over the data table, but do NOT change the position or layout of the cells :)
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[18:53] <ParkerR_> I was thinking of Connectify Dispatch
[18:54] <timmmaaaayyy> anyone using the newest raspbmc? am i supposed to connect to wifi via network-manager or via raspbmc settings?
[18:55] <TAFB_ssd> ParkerR_: just so u kno, I moved your PNG to my Pi folder: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-23-iozone_speed_test_ParkerR_.png
[18:55] <biberao> frikinz: wifi issues
[18:55] <biberao> cant configure wpa2 and eas
[18:55] <biberao> thingy
[18:56] <frikinz> biberao: what distro you're using?
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[18:57] <Neqoxec> biberao: what does lsusb show for your wireless?
[18:58] <biberao> the wireless is there
[18:58] <biberao> it was scanning a minute ago
[18:58] <biberao> but could get ip over dhcp
[18:59] <biberao> now wpa_supplicant is gone again
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> Datalink, hi ...
[18:59] <biberao> im sad as hell
[18:59] <biberao> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> Datalink, use whatever makes more sense for you - if ou connect gpio to ground, then the inputs reads low when you push the button, connect it to 3.3v and it reads high when pushed...
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[19:00] <biberao> ideas please?
[19:00] <gordonDrogon> Datalink, personally, I prefer to connect them to ground...
[19:00] <frikinz> biberao: you're using a usb hub?
[19:00] <Datalink> gordonDrogon, makes sense, less power draw
[19:00] <frikinz> biberao: wpasupplicant show info in /var/log/daemon.log
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[19:02] <biberao> frikinz: no
[19:02] <biberao> its a tiny wifi usb
[19:02] <TAFB_ssd> biberao: my tiny USB drew too much power for the Pi, I had to hotwire my USB ports
[19:02] <TAFB_ssd> biberao: same issue as you, scanning, joining, no IP, then boom, disappeared.
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[19:02] <TAFB_ssd> biberao: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-09-RaspberryPi_is_finished.jpg
[19:03] <frikinz> yes, same for me with a tplink
[19:03] <TAFB_ssd> biberao: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/340/how-much-power-can-be-provided-through-usb
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[19:03] <TAFB_ssd> biberao: I had to do this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/eU2tt.jpg
[19:03] <TAFB_ssd> ^^^ not porn
[19:04] <dRbiG> anyone got a no-name RT3070L (reported as RT2870) wifi card to work with hostapd?
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[19:06] <Datalink> gordonDrogon, https://www.sparkfun.com/products/11643 I think I've found my next oscope
[19:07] <TAFB_ssd> Datalink: I just got this oscope, thing rocks :) http://www.ebay.ca/itm/200470598507
[19:07] <gordonDrogon> Datalink, it's a bit small :)
[19:08] <Datalink> gordonDrogon, we hang out here because we all use a board the size of a credit card and you're complaining about a small board?
[19:08] <gordonDrogon> http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/dso-quad-pocketsized-digital-oscilloscope-p-920.html?zenid=v34divmdb0u8qoklm47q7vmij2 <-- is what I have.
[19:08] <biberao> TAFB_ssd: that wont solve my problem
[19:08] <biberao> :P
[19:08] <biberao> i need help
[19:08] <biberao> :|
[19:08] <gordonDrogon> Datalink, I'm 50 - need reading glasses!!!
[19:08] <TAFB_ssd> biberao: get a powered USB hub or break out the soldering gun. Until you get stable power for your WiFi, nobody can help you.
[19:09] <Datalink> ehe, I'm 31, and exercise my eyes :P
[19:09] <biberao> TAFB_ssd: why
[19:09] <biberao> the movies play fine
[19:09] <biberao> now the issue is having a working wifi
[19:09] <biberao> like it found my router but doesnt get an ip
[19:10] <TAFB_ssd> USB on the Pi sucks donkey balls. barely enough to run a mouse and keyboard. as soon as WiFi ramps up power to get IP address BOOM re-scan or drop out.
[19:10] <TAFB_ssd> you're heard this from more than just me. face it, you need MOAR POWA
[19:10] <biberao> oh
[19:10] <biberao> :|
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[19:11] <frikinz> biberao: http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#USB_Wi-Fi_Adapters . Note: A Wi-Fi adapter will probably need more power than the Raspberry Pi USB port can provide, especially if there is a large distance from the Wi-Fi adapter to the Wi-Fi Access Point. Therefore, you may need to plug the Wi-Fi adapter into a powered USB hub.
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[19:12] <Encrypt> biberao, Can't you use Ethernet ?
[19:12] <biberao> nope
[19:12] <biberao> too far away
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[19:13] <biberao> frikinz: its really near
[19:13] <TAFB_ssd> oh baby :) I'm goint to try and install nginx on my seagate box (arch linix), wish me luck :)
[19:13] <biberao> i need buy a usb hub then
[19:13] <biberao> :|
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[19:13] <biberao> seagate box?
[19:13] <Datalink> biberao, if you're not getting an ip, check that dhclient3 is installed
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[19:13] <Encrypt> Datalink, gordonDrogon, By the way, speaking about health...
[19:13] <TAFB_ssd> biberao: it's like a turbo powered Pi with SATA, gigabit ethernet but no GPU/video display and no funs stuff like GPio :)
[19:14] <Encrypt> Datalink, gordonDrogon, Do you know Redshift ?
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[19:14] <biberao> TAFB_ssd: which board?
[19:14] <Datalink> Encrypt, I don't
[19:14] <TAFB_ssd> Seagate GoFlex Home (little black docking station thing)
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[19:14] <TAFB_ssd> biberao: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2tb_wd_on_seagate_goflex_home_on_arch_linux.jpg
[19:15] <TAFB_ssd> makes the pi look absolutely silly for I/O and network and CPU :)
[19:15] <Encrypt> Datalink, gordonDrogon That's a good software changing the screen colour (and brightness ?) depending on which time it is...
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[19:15] <Encrypt> It works well, especially during night time, my eyes could notice the change !
[19:16] <Encrypt> Datalink, gordonDrogon, Here it is if you're interested : http://jonls.dk/redshift/
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[19:16] <Encrypt> It seems there are arm packages...
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[19:17] <Encrypt> (It's a kind of copy of the software f.lux which one you should use if you have a windows / apple computer)
[19:17] <Encrypt> F.lux > http://stereopsis.com/flux/
[19:18] <Encrypt> But redshift is bettr for Linux computers
[19:18] <TAFB_ssd> I find the walkthroughs for Arch linux are much less noob friendly than Debian/Raspbian :(
[19:18] <Encrypt> better*
[19:18] <biberao> im in the moment to give up
[19:18] <biberao> :X
[19:20] <gordonDrogon> Encrypt, never heard of redshift. intersting though.
[19:20] <Encrypt> ;)
[19:21] <biberao> how can i associate with iwconfig
[19:21] <biberao> ?
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> I have issues with dyslexia though and try to have a nice high contrast if possible. e.g. most of my text stuff is black text of pale yellow.
[19:21] <Armand> Encrypt, isn't Redshift a game ?
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> Armand, mars redcode :)
[19:21] <Encrypt> Armand, I don't know...
[19:21] <Armand> lol
[19:21] <Encrypt> :?
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> look up "corewars".
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[19:22] <gordonDrogon> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corewars
[19:22] <gordonDrogon> right. back to the kitchen!
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[19:35] <Foxhoundz> Is it possible to use an android tablet as a monitor for RPi?
[19:36] <beet0l> install a vnc client on your tablet
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[19:39] <OpenSys> hello, anyone with kingston sdc10/8g card ? he don't boot in my hands :(
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[19:39] <Armand> OpenSys, in your hands?? Of course not.. put it in the SD slot. ?_?
[19:39] <OpenSys> :P
[19:39] <Armand> ^_^
[19:40] <OpenSys> i have other class 10 card that boots
[19:40] <OpenSys> this card don't init
[19:41] <OpenSys> strange that the sdc10/16g reported that works in wiki
[19:41] <OpenSys> but to 8G model don't load
[19:42] <OpenSys> question: with serial port connect can i see any debug messages ?
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[19:49] <Brenny> Anyone know if there would be any issues wiring one of these guys into my pi? http://www.stronglink-rfid.com/en/rfid-modules/sl031.html
[19:49] <TAFB_ssd> new picture :) http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2012-12-23-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_hacked_with_Arch_Linux_Sandisk_SSD.jpg
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[19:57] <coin3d> hi there - i saw that there is a new version of raspbian - can someone tell me whats new about this image?
[19:57] <TAFB_ssd> comes with the Pi Store
[19:57] <TAFB_ssd> no kernel or firmware updates
[19:57] <coin3d> oh, ok.
[19:58] <TAFB_ssd> do you know what firmware you're running now?
[19:58] <coin3d> no idea
[19:59] <coin3d> im not running raspbian at the moment
[19:59] <TAFB_ssd> run: sudo vcgencmd version
[19:59] <TAFB_ssd> let me know what it says
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[19:59] <Gorroth> hi guys
[19:59] <TAFB_ssd> hi
[19:59] <Gorroth> anyone here know of any emulators that can run raspbian or are setup with rpi hardware specs?
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[20:01] <coin3d> TAFB_ssd: i cant - im running open elec atm
[20:02] <TAFB_ssd> coin3d: ahhh, lol. nevermind then :)
[20:02] <TAFB_ssd> I just installed Arch linux :) way different then debian/raspian :)
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[20:03] <Gorroth> what is Arch Linux like
[20:03] <gordonDrogon> OpenSys, yes - the Pi outputs console stuff over serial by default.
[20:04] <TAFB_ssd> not sure, just got started. It doesn't use apt-get (pacman instead) and all the walkthroughs about how to setup nginx (web server) and stuff are way less "noob friendly".
[20:04] <OpenSys> gordonDrogon, hello [ ]
[20:04] <OpenSys> but can i see any sdcard init debug ?
[20:04] <OpenSys> in hdi the kernel don't init
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[20:05] <OpenSys> HDMI*
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[20:10] <biberao> back
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[20:11] <biberao> im playing a video 1080p and it shows up the letters from omxplayer
[20:11] <biberao> like the chapers and such behind the movie
[20:11] <biberao> is there a way to clean it?
[20:11] <gordonDrogon> OpenSys, you won't see anything until Linux boots. I don't think the GPU initialisation puts anything out...
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[20:12] <OpenSys> gordonDrogon, right, so sending now microsd card to trash basket :D
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> OpenSys, ah... it not booting at all?
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> do you get any flash codes on the OK led?
[20:14] <Lartza> openelec 2.95.6 I get a black screen after the openelec splash, sdtv with composite
[20:15] <OpenSys> gordonDrogon, yes don't boot. no flash codes on OK power led
[20:16] <gordonDrogon> ok. try a new SD ... and good luck :)
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[20:16] <gordonDrogon> kitchen calls...
[20:17] <OpenSys> gordonDrogon, i have others that boot's fine
[20:17] <OpenSys> thank you
[20:18] <TAFB_ssd> anyone good with Arch linux and/or nginix? Getting "failed to start, port 80 in use" but that doesn't make much sense on fresh install of Arch? lol
[20:19] <OpenSys> TAFB_ssd, lsof -i
[20:19] <TAFB_ssd> -bash: lsof: command not found
[20:19] <OpenSys> to see apps by port
[20:19] <OpenSys> someting is using port 80
[20:19] <TAFB_ssd> i kno :(
[20:20] <TAFB_ssd> i just need to find it :(
[20:20] <TAFB_ssd> none of my debian tricks work
[20:20] <TAFB_ssd> lol
[20:20] <OpenSys> so netstat -atn
[20:20] <OpenSys> check if port 80 is in listen
[20:20] <TAFB_ssd> http://pastebin.com/NP4kYRy1
[20:20] <TAFB_ssd> don't see 80 in there :(
[20:21] <Gorroth> has anyone here tried to launch raspbian from the sd card using qemu? i don't know how to do it
[20:21] <OpenSys> ok so must be someting other app
[20:22] <TAFB_ssd> when I go to nothin shows up, so dunno how something can be holding port 80 and not show nothin :(
[20:23] <atouk> port can be "in use" but not active
[20:23] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh
[20:23] <Gorroth> you did "netstat -ant" and didn't see port 80 in listen state?
[20:23] <Gorroth> it was in some other state?
[20:23] <atouk> something grabbed it and has it reserved, but not currently servicing it
[20:23] <TAFB_ssd> I did "netstat -atn"
[20:23] <TAFB_ssd> http://pastebin.com/NP4kYRy1
[20:24] <TAFB_ssd> atouk: oh :( lol.
[20:24] <OpenSys> must be nginx config issue
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[20:24] <Gorroth> netstat -antp
[20:24] <Gorroth> that will tell you which process has it open
[20:24] <atouk> hit it with a hammer
[20:24] <TAFB_ssd> apache? wtf?
[20:25] <Gorroth> is that what netstat said?
[20:25] <TAFB_ssd> yeah
[20:25] <TAFB_ssd> pid is 299
[20:25] <Gorroth> guess you're running apache then :)
[20:25] <TAFB_ssd> strange ;)
[20:25] <TAFB_ssd> "sudo uninstall apache"
[20:25] <TAFB_ssd> hmmm
[20:26] <Gorroth> here's my conundrum: i want to launch raspbian off my SD Card (not an image) using qemu; is this possible/
[20:26] <Gorroth> because i don't have my RPi here, just the sd card
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[20:27] <TAFB_ssd> k. did: kill -9 299
[20:28] <TAFB_ssd> and yay! nginx starts :) woot
[20:28] <TAFB_ssd> thanks guys!
[20:29] <Gorroth> you might want to disable/uninstall apache
[20:29] <TAFB_ssd> yep, found a google article on it :) I'll give er a go
[20:29] <TAFB_ssd> this box only has 128mb ram, for sure dun need apache running ;)
[20:31] <OpenSys> apache it's a memory sucker
[20:32] <TAFB_ssd> for sure ;)
[20:32] <TAFB_ssd> ok, apache gone, nginx loading on boot, life is good :)
[20:32] <TAFB_ssd> k. php time.
[20:32] <Armand> gordonDrogon, that corewars makes little sense to me, not being a coder. :P
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[20:42] <mrmoney2012> never thought a brightly flashing led could cause me such joy :-)
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[20:45] <TAFB_ssd> mrmoney2012: congrats :) you get a new SD card?
[20:46] <mrmoney2012> eh?
[20:46] <TAFB_ssd> mrmoney2012: weren't you having sd card issues? maybe i got u confused
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[20:48] <mrmoney2012> yes - that was me ages ago - annoyingly never got to root cause
[20:48] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh
[20:48] <mrmoney2012> pretty much everything is swapped out on the new rig
[20:48] <TAFB_ssd> lol
[20:48] <TAFB_ssd> I did that to, I had two bad Pi's in a row
[20:48] <TAFB_ssd> spend so much money on USB power supplies, microSD cables, expensive SD cards :(
[20:48] <mrmoney2012> hehe.. now having too much fun with LEDs
[20:49] <TAFB_ssd> turned out to be undercooked Pi's :(
[20:49] <TAFB_ssd> gpio led's?
[20:49] <mrmoney2012> who knew electricity could be so much fun???.
[20:49] <mrmoney2012> yes
[20:49] <TAFB_ssd> nice!
[20:49] <mrmoney2012> First discovery connecting two LEDs in series makes them very dim
[20:49] <TAFB_ssd> once I get my server stuff moved off my Pi onto my new "server" I'll get a chance to play with GPIO :) My new server: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2012-12-23-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_hacked_with_Arch_Linux_Sandisk_SSD.jpg
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[20:52] <mrmoney2012> sorry if this is a daft question - how many "ground" pins are there on the GPIO ?
[20:52] <TAFB_ssd> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/Raspberry-Pi-GPIO-Layout-Revision-2-e1347664831557.png
[20:52] <TAFB_ssd> i count 5
[20:53] <mrmoney2012> ta??? more than 1 then. ok
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[21:10] <mrmoney2012> TAFB_ssd: 5 ? where ? https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/pins/
[21:11] <mrmoney2012> physical pins 6,7 and 8 ? = 3
[21:13] <TAFB_ssd> 6, 9, 14, 17, 20, 25?
[21:13] <mrmoney2012> aha - DNC is ground also ?
[21:13] <mrmoney2012> ok, thanks
[21:13] <TAFB_ssd> don't ask me, on my wiring diagram they were listed as such
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[21:15] <atouk> depending on board version, dnc is NOT ground
[21:15] <atouk> internally connected
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[21:18] <mrmoney2012> ok. thanks
[21:19] <atouk> make sure you have the correct pinout. bad things happen otherwise
[21:20] <atouk> i think gordon's site has them both
[21:21] <atouk> (https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/)
[21:21] <TAFB_ssd> woot, got php workin on my seagate box :) yay. time to load test :)
[21:22] <mrmoney2012> LEDs blinking nothing gone up in smoke yet - only a matter of time though!
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[21:23] <magi> Hey, i've got a question regarding the gpio pins on my rev b board.
[21:24] <atouk> well?
[21:24] <magi> I have a relaycard with 16 relays. I've got them connected and everyone works, although relay on the physical pin #5 is closed everytime istart the Ras Pi board. When i shut it off its open again,
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[21:25] <magi> Any ideas?
[21:25] <magi> I can open/shut the relay without problems, but everytime i boot the Ras Pi it closes, when everyone else stays open.
[21:27] <atouk> pin 5 is default to the i2s . probobly the default state until you hit it
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[21:30] <magi> Is it default for Rev B aswell?
[21:30] <magi> How do i change that to a GPIO pin per default?
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[21:34] <monkers> TAFB_ssd - you know i got all my flash sd / boot problems fixed last night? was a problem with the HDMI connection... if i dont have HDMI plugged in it always boots fine. (if HDMI is plugged in it bootes sometimes) I don't need HDMI so i'm not too worried now that I can SSH into it. :)
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[21:37] <SpeedEvil> :-)
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[21:38] <TAFB_ssd> monkers: did you try the force hotplug option in config.txt?
[21:38] <monkers> TAFB_ssd - i didn't... should i just throw that line in there?
[21:39] <TAFB_ssd> it should be in there, commented out. my Pi is down right now so can't check the exact option for ya
[21:39] <monkers> k got it
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[21:40] <monkers> rebootin
[21:40] <pksato> after couple weeks of development, I finished my gpio to breadboard cable interface with protection. http://img526.imageshack.us/img526/4088/rpigpiobreadxyz01.jpg
[21:41] <TAFB_ssd> wow, nice work. What are the diodes for?
[21:42] <Encrypt> pksato, Did you have a look at Adafruit's one ?
[21:44] <pksato> Encrypt: yes. They copied my idea. :)
[21:44] <Encrypt> :?
[21:45] <Encrypt> Isn't there a simple way to play sound on the raspberry pi ?
[21:45] <axion> anyone familiar with bcm_host?
[21:45] <pksato> But, My have a zener diode and resistors to prevent over voltage and overload.
[21:45] <Encrypt> I could see that a few years ago, we could just execute cat sound.wav > /dev/audio
[21:45] <Encrypt> But it seems there is no anymore simple way to do that :/
[21:46] <pksato> Encrypt: aplay wave file.
[21:46] <TAFB_ssd> axion: hey hey :)
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[21:46] <pksato> alsa dont allow direct access to pcm device.
[21:47] <Encrypt> pksato, Ok, thakns, Ill have a look ;)
[21:48] <Encrypt> It's even easier with aplay ! :D
[21:49] <Encrypt> pksato, It seems that I have to add the aplay.c library in C language ?
[21:50] <pksato> 17 3V3 zener diodes http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/824/rpigpiobreadxyz02.jpg
[21:51] <pksato> and resistors http://img534.imageshack.us/img534/6297/rpigpiobreadxyz03.jpg
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[21:52] <pksato> Encrypt: I dont now, never programed a sound program.
[21:52] <Encrypt> ok ;)
[21:53] <monkers> oh dear.
[21:53] <monkers> TAFB_ssd the pi did not come back after that change
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[21:54] <monkers> but i rebooted it again and now its back :D
[21:54] <axion> anyone familiar wit vc_dispmanx_* functions?
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[21:56] <TAFB_ssd> monkers: can you paste your complete config.txt in pastebin?
[21:56] <TAFB_ssd> axion: do you not love me anymore?
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[21:57] <monkers> TAFB_ssd - i'm going to reboot again and if it comes back blame it on gnomes.
[21:57] <TAFB_ssd> k
[21:57] <TAFB_ssd> garden gnomes, the most evil
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[21:57] <monkers> yah im used to network gnomes but garden gnomes are different
[21:58] <monkers> i got wiring pi installed... im almost ready for my first project. a blinking LED ^.^
[21:58] <TAFB_ssd> woot!
[21:58] <axion> TAFB_ssd: <3
[21:58] <TAFB_ssd> gonna blink morse code SoS? :)
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[21:58] <monkers> ok so i've been using 'sudo shutdown -r now' - but that doesnt appear to be quite doin the trick. is there a better shutdown method?
[21:58] <monkers> (reboot method i should say)
[21:59] <TAFB_ssd> monkers: that's what I always use, never an issue :)
[21:59] <daveake> sudo reboot
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[21:59] <axion> i'm just frustrated the pi's video driver returns inconsistent data between reboots for me
[21:59] <TAFB_ssd> axion: not a problem for me anymore, no GPU ;) http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2012-12-23-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_hacked_with_Arch_Linux_Sandisk_SSD.jpg
[22:00] <axion> TAFB_ssd: goflex net ftw
[22:00] <TAFB_ssd> ^^ seagate box is running Arch linux :)
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[22:00] <axion> home, meh
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[22:00] <Encrypt> system("command"); roxxes ! :?
[22:00] <TAFB_ssd> yeah, works so good. 1.2ghz cpu + gigabit lan + SATA make the Pi look silly :) http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2012-12-23-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_hacked_with_Arch_Linux_SSD_test_vs_RaspberryPi.png
[22:00] <monkers> anyone know the current draw on an raspberry pi with nothing connected except power and no additional cpu usage besides the os?
[22:01] <Encrypt> C language > Me gusta :-)
[22:01] <TAFB_ssd> monkers: with NO usb devices and NO hdmi plugged in my Pi drew 482ma
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[22:01] <monkers> cool ty
[22:01] <TAFB_ssd> np
[22:01] <monkers> at 3 v or 5?
[22:01] <monkers> 5 right?
[22:01] <pksato> all
[22:01] <TAFB_ssd> usb, 5, yep
[22:02] <monkers> well apparently my pi doesnt like to reboot :P *hooks up hdmi*
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[22:02] <daveake> 5V line doesn't really do anything other than USB and supply the 3V3 reg
[22:02] <monkers> ah ok ty Davespice
[22:02] <monkers> ...
[22:02] <TAFB_ssd> ^^ truth
[22:02] <monkers> daveake
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[22:03] <SpeedEvil> in principle, you can replace all the linear regs with SMPS
[22:03] <daveake> I have done
[22:03] <SpeedEvil> for a considerable saving
[22:03] <daveake> yup
[22:03] <SpeedEvil> all of them?
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[22:03] <daveake> No :)
[22:03] <SpeedEvil> what did you end up at?
[22:03] <daveake> I removed the 3V3 reg and have ext SMPS for 5V and 3V3
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[22:03] <TAFB_ssd> SpeedEvil: My friend replaced his RG2 regular with a "buck converter"!?? says hi Pi draws way less, is way more stable down to lower voltages and generates next to no heat (from the regulator).
[22:03] <SpeedEvil> also, overpower the internal linear rewgs in Chios
[22:03] <SpeedEvil> chips
[22:04] <SpeedEvil> TAFB_ssd: sure
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[22:05] <SpeedEvil> - overpower - connect a 50mv higher voltage power source to the internal supply
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[22:06] <TAFB_ssd> scary
[22:06] <TAFB_ssd> lol
[22:06] <SpeedEvil> to turn it off to avoid loss
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[22:07] <TAFB_ssd> ok, nginx, php, all working. now for virtual hosts :)
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[22:09] <torgo> Can anyone tell me where to go to download packages for Arch ARM?
[22:10] <mrmoney2012> pacman
[22:10] <monkers> ok the pi is only working the first time i connect the HDMI cable. Subsequent reboots or turning the pi off and then on result in a stuck boot before loading the primary OS. So, i connect HDMI, it boots fine. it will not boot properly again until i remove the HDMI cable and plug it back in. >_<
[22:10] <torgo> I mean on a computer without pacman
[22:10] <torgo> LIke over httpsw
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[22:10] <torgo> http*
[22:10] <monkers> let me put my config.txt up, it shoud be about default.
[22:11] <TAFB_ssd> torgo: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman
[22:11] <torgo> Does that include ARM?
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[22:12] <monkers> here's my /boot/config.txt - http://pastie.org/5569846
[22:12] <monkers> i've only uncommented line 22 to my knowledge.
[22:13] <TAFB_ssd> torgo: I dunno, only been using Arch on my Arm for less than 12 hours, 6 of which were sleep
[22:13] <torgo> Heh
[22:13] <torgo> Fun stuff
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[22:13] <torgo> Tip: don't pacman -Qdt and remove all of them
[22:13] <TAFB_ssd> monkers: line 7 is modified as well
[22:13] <torgo> IT's bad
[22:13] <monkers> uh oh
[22:13] <Neqoxec> having problems getting my gpio to work, and the only clue I have is the error "This channel is already in use, continuing anyway". Am I using GPIO.cleanup() correctly? http://pastebin.com/qUSBhyR6
[22:14] <pksato> monkers: you have a HDMI monitor or HDMI TV?
[22:14] * gordonDrogon waves.
[22:14] <gordonDrogon> evening.
[22:14] <TAFB_ssd> gordonDrogon! hey :)
[22:14] <mrmoney2012> evening gordon
[22:15] <gordonDrogon> still cooking - going to dash off shortly to sort out some bread...
[22:15] <TAFB_ssd> gordonDrogon: No more GPU stealin ram: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2012-12-23-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_hacked_with_Arch_Linux_Sandisk_SSD.jpg
[22:15] <gordonDrogon> gpu steals ram? news to me..
[22:15] <TAFB_ssd> gordonDrogon: makes the Pi look silly for i/o :) sata + 1.2ghz + gigabit ethernet, woot! http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2012-12-23-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_hacked_with_Arch_Linux_SSD_test_vs_RaspberryPi.png
[22:16] <TAFB_ssd> arch unix takes a little to get used to tho
[22:16] * gordonDrogon shrugs.
[22:16] <gordonDrogon> if I want a server I'll not use a Pi.
[22:16] <TAFB_ssd> I've found that out ;)
[22:16] <TAFB_ssd> after I moved all 30 websites and 8 domains over to it, the i/o was just getting murdered :(
[22:16] <TAFB_ssd> ran some load tests on the seagate box, looking very promising so far.
[22:16] <gordonDrogon> 30 websites? Shouldn't be be using external hosting?
[22:17] <TAFB_ssd> i like in house ;)
[22:17] <TAFB_ssd> it's mostly just friends and family stuff
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[22:17] <gordonDrogon> I stopped doing friends & family stuff a while back.
[22:17] <gordonDrogon> I still do it, but I charge them now.
[22:18] <mrmoney2012> i am remarkably delighted in myself after building a Father Christmas type attraction??? child (sometimes adult) presses button on a box covered in glitter and christmassy things including picture of the big man. Two LEDs flash furiously for 30 seconds while a WAV file play "ho ho ho, merry christmas and a happy new year" - it's obviously rubbish but to me it's the best thing I've ever done with a computer ever.
[22:18] <gordonDrogon> mrmoney2012, excellent!
[22:18] <TAFB_ssd> lol. I charge em too, but only a few $ a month :) When you can get unlimited hosting with Globat for $4/mo it makes it almost not worth it, lol.
[22:19] <mrmoney2012> the kids love it (he's 4) but I think he understands a circuit and the switch in some respects. Keen as mustard to get stuck in.
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[22:19] <gordonDrogon> ah, James MAys toy stories on in 10, so I'll be watching that, then.
[22:19] <mrmoney2012> understands is a bit strong ??? but taking an interest for sure
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[22:31] <torgo> Does raspi use initrd?
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[22:39] <viric> mh
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[22:39] <viric> what's -mabi for the pi?
[22:39] <viric> -mabi=aapcs-linux ?
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[22:48] <OpenSys> gordonDrogon, found the problem about micro sdcard don't init. found that have a invalid init vfat search block. I try to boot in other developer board. S? i left 4.20M free at first partition. And now works. :D
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[23:12] <magi> hmm i have an issue with a relay card and gpio, it seams that when i reboot or shutdown the Ras Pi the relays open.
[23:12] <magi> I have yet not figured out how to prevent this,.
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[23:13] <magi> I would like it to be that the relays is not affected with poweron or reboot.
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[23:14] <TAFB_ssd> can anyone help me with symbolic links? :(
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[23:15] <ParkerR_> TAFB_ssd, ln -s originalfile destinationfile
[23:15] <ParkerR_> *destinationfile
[23:15] <ParkerR_> Oh heh spelled it right the first time
[23:16] <TAFB_ssd> i did that, but goofed something up. I was in a directory that had a file called test.com and ran: ln -s /path/to/current/director/test.com
[23:16] <TAFB_ssd> :(
[23:17] <TAFB_ssd> now my file is gone and it thinks test.com is a folder
[23:17] <TAFB_ssd> but if I cd to it, it says "too many symbolic links" :(
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[23:18] <TAFB_ssd> if I go to the folder and run a: find -type l
[23:18] <TAFB_ssd> it says "./test.com"
[23:19] <ParkerR_> Could just try deleting and starting over?
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[23:19] <TAFB_ssd> yeah, but what do I delete? the test.com file/folder?
[23:19] <ParkerR_> I would start fresh
[23:19] <TAFB_ssd> i can't start fresh fresh :) I already bricked one box trying to do that :)
[23:19] <ParkerR_> ?
[23:20] <TAFB_ssd> lol. these seagate boxes, no mouse no keyboard, I tried to reload the OS, didn't boot back up after :( lol.
[23:20] <ParkerR_> Hmm, might be some serial access
[23:20] <TAFB_ssd> yeah, or pull drive out and configure with linux stuff ;)
[23:21] <TAFB_ssd> ok, will work on deleteing file/folder/symbolic link and starting over.
[23:21] <TAFB_ssd> dinner is ready :)
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[23:21] <TAFB_eatin> ParkerR_: if you get a chance, obviously I know nothing about symbolic links, under "after reviewing your configuration" on this site: http://library.linode.com/web-servers/nginx/php-fastcgi/arch-linux#sph_configure-virtual-hosting
[23:21] <TAFB_eatin> is where they told me to run the ls that messed everythin up
[23:21] <TAFB_eatin> if you could take a look and try and figure out what they are trying to do :(
[23:22] <TAFB_eatin> brb
[23:22] <ParkerR_> Umm
[23:22] <ParkerR_> They only have a source arguemnt
[23:22] <ParkerR_> TAFB_eatin, I think they goofed
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[23:23] <aaa801> is tin.o in here?
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[23:33] <gordonDrogon> woo hoo. good James May!
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[23:37] <who0> Hi all, I'm looking to run Plex on my debian ARM on Raspberry. But LD_LIBRARY_PATH seems to not working (someone have a clue to solve this issue)
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[23:38] <axion> anyone familiar with the broadcom driver's vc_dispmanx_* functions?
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[23:39] <cosmic> Hi, i'm trying to run a script at startup
[23:40] <cosmic> ive used rc.local but just get compatability error
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[23:41] <cosmic> and using arch, ive got systemd
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[23:41] <cosmic> which i'm unfamiliar with
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[23:44] <cosmic> I just want to run video streaming server at startup
[23:45] <gordonDrogon> cosmic, are you currently using arch or raspbian?
[23:45] <cosmic> hi, im on Arch using systemd
[23:46] <gordonDrogon> ok. can't help you there - only raspbian.
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[23:47] <cosmic> ok, thanks anyway
[23:48] <TAFB_eatin> cosmic: check out systemctl
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[23:50] <TAFB_eatin> ParkerR_: they did goof, all through that walkthrough so many mistakes. three or four times they tell you to put files in the wrong paths, lol.
[23:50] <cosmic> Hi TAFB_eatin, have done and got a long way to getting it working, but get error now
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[23:50] <TAFB_eatin> ParkerR_: do you understand at all what they are trying to do with the ls command? as far as I can see it they are linking to itself creating a symbolic loop! lol.
[23:52] <john_f> does the serial port in gpio show the bootloader?
[23:52] <john_f> or just kernel msgs?
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[23:58] <aaa801> hea gordonDrogon :D
[23:59] <aaa801> Currently cross compiling the rpi toolchain to windows

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