#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2012-12-25

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[0:00] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: I probably do, can you gimme 2 mins?
[0:00] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: no problem! Thanks!
[0:00] <TAFB_ssd> atou: Here the code ... "Here is the code". Like is that the type of proof reading?
[0:00] <ExeciN> is port 3306 blocked by default in raspbian?
[0:01] <atouk> no, run the script and check the pinouts reported to a reference
[0:01] <TAFB_ssd> haha, lol :)
[0:01] <Hopsy> with one should I download and install? http://pkgs.org/download/libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a
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[0:01] <atouk> too many epople asking what the pinouts are, and with 2 versions of the board i figured just make it easier
[0:02] <TAFB_ssd> nice. so instead of running the whole php/webserver, they can just run that script?
[0:02] * Mr_Sheesh_AFK (~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:02] <atouk> yup
[0:03] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh. lol. I tried to run it on my Arch linux seagate box, didn't work :) lol. it's got no GPIO I think. My Pi is offline right now so can't check it on it :(
[0:03] <TAFB_ssd> atouk: http://tafb.yi.org/
[0:03] <atouk> saw that
[0:03] <TAFB_ssd> hehe
[0:03] <TAFB_ssd> what do you think?
[0:03] <atouk> the script is pi specific, not that other thing
[0:04] <atouk> converted over pretty well
[0:04] <TAFB_ssd> can't figure out how to read the damn tamp on this thing, but other than that, love the page.
[0:04] <TAFB_ssd> yeah, vcgencmd thing don't work on Arch as far as I can tell :(
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[0:04] <atouk> hardware specific. won't work there
[0:05] <TAFB_ssd> the cpu speed and i/o speed (sata and gigabit ethernet) make the Pi look silly, so it's working much better as my server :)
[0:05] <TAFB_ssd> i'll probably get the Pi back up and running so I can play with GPIO
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[0:05] <TAFB_ssd> i still want to get it so peeps can play with LED lights by clicking the gpio buttons on the status page ;)
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[0:06] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: you still around?
[0:07] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: I am good sir.
[0:07] <TAFB_ssd> okies, one sec for link :)
[0:07] <atouk> off to dinner
[0:07] <TAFB_ssd> eat safe
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[0:07] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: do you have important information on your Pi or can you start with fresh image?
[0:08] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[0:08] <nickwebcouk> I can start with a fresh image - I've got it using SparkleShare. Thats the only thing I've played aobut with sofar...
[0:08] <nickwebcouk> As long as I can still be headless, im game!
[0:08] <TAFB_ssd> ok, nothing important on usb drive either?
[0:08] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: nope. Shjall be starting clean with that bad boy!
[0:08] <TAFB_ssd> nice. What image did you use on the Pi, wheezy?
[0:09] <nickwebcouk> Yup. The first one on the list
[0:09] <TAFB_ssd> nice. love that image. works great.
[0:09] <xrosnight> i am installing archlinux on it
[0:09] * Mr_Sheesh (~mr_s@unaffiliated/mr-sheesh/x-0757054) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:09] <xrosnight> what's the default password and username ???
[0:09] <TAFB_ssd> do you have any Linux based computers?
[0:09] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: if you need any arch help, you know who to call ;)
[0:10] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: no idea :( my arch I used was root/root :(
[0:10] <aaa801> GHOSTBUSTERS
[0:10] <xrosnight> ok iki
[0:10] <aaa801> http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
[0:10] <xrosnight> let me try :D
[0:10] <aaa801> the passwords are on there
[0:10] <aaa801> ;)
[0:10] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: do you have any linux computers (with sd card readers)?
[0:10] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: running a mac just now, with ubuntu as a vm. I have an old PC I can install a linux distro on if required..
[0:10] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: with an SD Card reader
[0:11] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: lol. Is the mac an Intel?
[0:11] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: yup
[0:11] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: Nice. Have you ever heard of/used gparted?
[0:11] <nickwebcouk> 3 weeks old. I should hope so! :P
[0:11] <pksato> humm, lets me try to copy running system on SD to some HD. I need a HD...
[0:11] <xrosnight> it works .
[0:11] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: ohhh nice ;)
[0:11] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: funnily enough, used it earlier on today (on a windows laptop) - comfortable with its usage
[0:12] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: nice. It really helps with what we're going to do :) ok. Do you have a super small crappy SD card we can use to boot? only needs to be 128mb or bigger ;)
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[0:13] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: I do. I'll be saving this chat for furutre reference btw :)
[0:13] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: it's all logged on freenode.net too ;)
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[0:13] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: ok, format the SD card fat32 and I'll have some files for you to put on it.
[0:14] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: done. cheers for the help btw!
[0:14] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: ok, download this file and unzip it's contents to the rood of the SD card. stick it in the Pi and verify it boots: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/TAFB_diagnostics_bootcode.zip
[0:14] <TAFB_ssd> to the root...
[0:14] <TAFB_ssd> lol
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[0:14] <TAFB_ssd> let me know once your Pi boots.
[0:16] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: which is the sd card device on archlinux? /dev/???
[0:16] <aaa801> mmcblk0 ?
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[0:16] <aaa801> something liek that
[0:16] <aaa801> like*
[0:16] <xrosnight> mmcblk0
[0:17] <xrosnight> alright thanks
[0:17] <xrosnight> let me have a try
[0:17] <TAFB_ssd> no idea, I'm running on SSD /dev/sda1
[0:17] <TAFB_ssd> even my boot ;)
[0:17] <aaa801> how are you runing boot from a ssd
[0:17] <TAFB_ssd> http://tafb.yi.org/
[0:17] <TAFB_ssd> it's not a Pi ;) that's how
[0:17] <TAFB_ssd> lol
[0:17] <aaa801> u ass
[0:17] <aaa801> ;p
[0:17] <TAFB_ssd> hehe
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[0:18] <TAFB_ssd> I got a whole bunch of these seagate things for free, they make the pi look silly if you don't need GPU/display :) hehe. so much fun.
[0:19] <dr_willis> sd cards can be on sdXX or on mcc* depending on the hardware.
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[0:19] <dr_willis> on they pi i think they are the mcc* type name. On netbooks/laptops it can depend on the brand,.
[0:20] <dr_willis> one connected via USB ports/adaptors are sd*
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[0:22] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: thats it booted, at a kbd prompt tho
[0:22] * Hopsy (~Hopsy@unaffiliated/hopsy) Quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.0.4 Insomnia http://www.kvirc.net/)
[0:22] <TAFB_ssd> nice! good work
[0:22] <TAFB_ssd> ok, do you have "7zip" on your mac?
[0:23] <nickwebcouk> not yet, will do. Whats the file needung unzipped?
[0:23] <TAFB_ssd> it needs more than unzipping ;)
[0:23] <TAFB_ssd> ok, you have the wheezy .img file right?
[0:23] <nickwebcouk> I do.
[0:23] <TAFB_ssd> if you "un-7zip" it you get two files, something like 0.fat and 1.img... we need to do that.
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[0:23] <aaa801> eek what are you doing :P
[0:24] <TAFB_ssd> we're seting up clean install of wheezy with boot on SD and OS un USB
[0:24] <aaa801> aha, moving / onto a usb
[0:24] <TAFB_ssd> yep yep, from fresh, using a mac ;)
[0:24] <aaa801> ouch
[0:24] <TAFB_ssd> i kno :(
[0:24] <TAFB_ssd> he has gparted tho!
[0:24] <aaa801> thats something..
[0:25] <aaa801> atleast
[0:25] <TAFB_ssd> very
[0:25] <aaa801> i cross compiled the rpi toolchain to windows earlier
[0:25] <aaa801> :3
[0:25] <TAFB_ssd> u crazk
[0:25] <TAFB_ssd> crazy
[0:25] <nickwebcouk> oi! I can still use the linux box if requried (mind you, I'd need to set it up first..)
[0:25] <aaa801> TAFB_ssd: how crazy :(?
[0:26] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: it's ok, a ton of people ask to do it on the mac, so if this works, we'll be stars
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[0:26] <pksato> # dd if=/dev/mmcblk0p2 of=/dev/sda1 bs=512
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[0:27] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: how's that un 7zipping of the wheezy image going?
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[0:27] <TAFB_ssd> pksato: you just going to resize partition after?
[0:27] <nickwebcouk> just looking for a decent alternative - no 7zip for the mac. One of the programs linked was last updated 2008...
[0:27] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: when i was trying to install linux on it. it died of driver
[0:27] <who0> Hi all, fontconfig-config is no more available ? :(
[0:28] <pksato> TAFB_ssd: yes.
[0:28] <TAFB_ssd> pksato: nice :)
[0:28] <aaa801> http://p7zip.sourceforge.net/
[0:28] <pksato> on running rpi
[0:28] <aaa801> Sigh.
[0:28] <monkers> pksata - ok i tried a different SD card and a different release (arch) but i still get stuck at that wierd boot screen after reboot... any ideas?
[0:29] <aaa801> monkers: wierd boot screen?
[0:29] <monkers> yah the font is big and there's a raspberry in the top left.. and it only boots up in single user mode
[0:29] <monkers> no login prompt
[0:29] <aaa801> delete kernel emergency
[0:29] <pksato> monkers: I dont have any ideias about you problem.
[0:29] <who0> > http://pastebin.com/y2JN9Asm :(
[0:29] <aaa801> its booting in safe mode
[0:29] <aaa801> ;)
[0:29] <pksato> try another SD.
[0:29] <aaa801> monkers: http://elinux.org/RPI_safe_mode
[0:29] <pksato> new one
[0:30] <nickwebcouk> Keka appears to be the best program sofar for unarchiving - one for the wiki!
[0:30] <monkers> pksato - omg i've tried 3 !!! O.O
[0:30] <aaa801> monkers: delete the kernel emergency file
[0:30] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: nice :) see if it can unarchive the wheezy.img file, that's the true test.
[0:30] <pksato> monkers: really, I dont have any ideia.
[0:30] <pksato> try berryboot.
[0:31] <monkers> aaa801 - looks like i'm in rpi safe mode
[0:31] <Chronax> I've got a piezo hooked up to PIN 22 on the GPIO, and grounded on one of the ground pins. I'm trying to do this http://pastie.org/5574308 to read any data from it via the GPIO, but it's not working when I flick / hit / violently beat the piezo. Any thoughts or ideas?
[0:31] <pksato> or RiscOS.
[0:31] <aaa801> ye if you delete the emergency file or copy the normal kernel over to kernel_emergency.img
[0:31] <aaa801> it should boot
[0:31] <aaa801> some pi's just get stuck in safe mode
[0:31] <who0> forget ... apt-get update solve my trouble > merry christmas
[0:32] <TAFB_ssd> who0: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[0:32] <TAFB_ssd> who0: don't forget to get firmware update too! https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update
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[0:33] <aaa801> got it booting yet monkers
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[0:34] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: Keka's the one - 2 files extracted.0.fat, and 1.img
[0:34] <who0> firmware is realy needed (i'im using my RPy as a webserver)
[0:34] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk! wow, nice work
[0:34] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: ok, the 1.img file, you need to "write" that to your USB drive.
[0:34] <nickwebcouk> gparted time?
[0:35] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: you can use the same instructions that you originally did to write the wheezy image, just substitute the 1.img for the wheezy image
[0:35] <TAFB_ssd> nope, we gotta write the 1.img to the usb drive.
[0:35] <nickwebcouk> ah. dd.
[0:35] <nickwebcouk> just FYI. Doing this on my mac takes forever and a day...
[0:35] <TAFB_ssd> yep yep
[0:35] <TAFB_ssd> what, dd is slow?
[0:36] <nickwebcouk> yeah. everytime I've used it on my mac its been the same. Theres even some tutoprials that mention it being slow also...
[0:36] <aaa801> because no1 supplies the bloc ksize
[0:36] <aaa801> dcfldd is better for newbies
[0:36] <aaa801> dat automatic settings
[0:36] * wiiguy (~fake@unaffiliated/wiiguy) Quit (Quit: I just broke my connection, but no worries, we can rebuild it. We have the technology.)
[0:37] <aaa801> and basicaly follows the same command scrupture
[0:37] <artag> Chronax: pin 22 has a default pull-down which will hold it at zero unless a reasonable current is flowing. Not sure what it needs but I'd expect a few 100uA.
[0:37] <nickwebcouk> aaa801: is there a better command to use then?
[0:37] <Chronax> Ahh, thanks artag.
[0:37] <artag> a piezo is very high impedance and unlikely to do this
[0:37] <aaa801> what command did you use nickwebcouk
[0:37] <Chronax> Is there another pin I could try?
[0:37] <artag> you might get it to work if you turn off the pulldown but you may need an amplifier
[0:38] <artag> they all have either a pullup or pulldown by default
[0:38] <nickwebcouk> as per http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup#Copying_an_image_to_the_SD_card_in_Mac.C2.A0OS.C2.A0X_.28command_line.29
[0:38] <nickwebcouk> sudo dd bs=1m if=~/Downloads/2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian/2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/rdisk3
[0:38] <aaa801> mhm that should be fine
[0:38] <aaa801> with dfclff you wouldnt specify blocksize
[0:38] <aaa801> i prefer dfcldd*
[0:38] <TAFB_ssd> sudo dd bs=1m if=~/Downloads/2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian/1.img of=/dev/rdisk3
[0:38] <TAFB_ssd> remember to use our new 1.img file!
[0:39] <aaa801> :P
[0:39] <Chronax> artag: How can I use wiringpi to turn off the pulldown resistor?
[0:39] <artag> I haven't used it, but it should be pullUpDnControl as described on https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/functions/
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[0:40] <artag> so pullUpDnControl(22, PUD_OFF)
[0:40] <Chronax> Thanks!
[0:41] <pksato> sd partition cloned do usb hd
[0:42] <TAFB_ssd> pksato: nice :)
[0:42] <nickwebcouk> Just for the record, the command I just used : sudo dd bs=1m if=/Users/nick/Downloads/2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian/1.img of=/dev/rdisk3
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[0:42] <TAFB_ssd> pksato: so now you edit cmdline.txt and fstab right?
[0:42] <nickwebcouk> (just for the logs! :) )
[0:42] <pksato> and...
[0:42] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: :)
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[0:45] <pksato> kernel cant detected usb storage. :(
[0:45] <artag> Chronax: there's another possible problem, which is the pin numbering. Physical pin 22 is referred to as pin 6 by wiring-pi. Not sure what it would want in your code.
[0:45] <Chronax> Ahh, thanks. Can't figure out how to set pin 22's pull-down resistor in the ruby gem, either. https://github.com/WiringPi/WiringPi-Ruby/blob/master/lib/wiringpi.rb
[0:45] <Chronax> Sorta guessing that I just set the pin mode to PUD_DOWN ?
[0:47] <Grievre> Man that's so misleading
[0:48] <artag> maybe. i haven't tried the ruby interface. best bet is probably to ask gordonDrogon
[0:48] <artag> if possible, try it with a nice solid 0v or 3.3v level first to ensure you're actually reading the right pin
[0:50] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: still here - still dd'ing...
[0:50] <Chronax> Hrm, no. What I'm doing still doesn't look right.
[0:50] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: wow, that does suck. It's on 2 gigs!? lol
[0:50] <TAFB_ssd> only
[0:50] <[fzH]> can anyone help out on fixing the mmc0 time out issue ?
[0:51] <TAFB_ssd> [fzH]: buy a better sd card?
[0:51] <nickwebcouk> *mental note* try alternatives to dd...
[0:51] <[fzH]> is this really about the card ?
[0:51] <TAFB_ssd> [fzH]: usually, is it kingston?
[0:51] <[fzH]> san disk sdhc c10
[0:51] <[fzH]> 8gb
[0:51] <TAFB_ssd> [fzH]: did you check if it's on the compatibility list? one sec for link.
[0:52] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: finished. USB stick burned with 1.img
[0:52] <[fzH]> san disk isn that bad? :/
[0:52] <TAFB_ssd> [fzH]: http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#SD_cards
[0:53] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: gparted time! fire it up, expand the usb partition to the full size of the drive, verify there's only ONE partition on the drive, that's important.
[0:53] <dr_willis> makes one wonder whats differnt about differnt sd cards that some would not be compatiable.
[0:54] <TAFB_ssd> [fzH]: also, have you checked your TP1/TP2 voltage? if it's super low or fluctuates a lot you can get MMC timouts and/or sd carc corruption. http://elinux.org/images/d/d1/RPI_Test_Points.JPG
[0:54] <Grievre> one of the tutorials for adding an RTC module tells you that you need to use a level shifter
[0:54] <Grievre> but the RTC module's datasheet says it works fine with the I2C at 3.3V
[0:54] <Grievre> even though the module runs at 5V in general
[0:54] <pksato> need to load ums_cypress to access usb HD, it not on kernel.
[0:55] <TAFB_ssd> pksato: I used latest wheezy image, support was built in kernel. what kernel you usin? lol
[0:56] <pksato> raspbian
[0:57] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: another few minutes. Need to make a new Gparted USB stick...
[0:57] <pw-> TAFB_ssd, remember i came in here about 3 weeks ago and my pi wasn't working and you told me to bake it?
[0:57] <pw-> still working like a champ
[0:57] <TAFB_ssd> i remember!
[0:57] <pksato> kingston pen drive is recognized by kernel.
[0:58] <TAFB_ssd> pw-: that's great news :) I've never had anyone bake it and it NOT work flawlessly after!! lol
[0:58] <pw-> and then we thought i didn't bake it enough because no plastic melted, but apparently it was enough, everything's still great =D
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[0:58] <pw-> i've never baked anything before and was super nervous. very happy it turned out well
[0:58] <[fzH]> TAFB_ssd, cant check the voltage atm
[0:58] <pksato> My external HD adpater need a extra kernel module. :(
[0:58] <TAFB_ssd> pw-: that's awesome :) my neighbour melted his Pi into a pile of good, work sweet though.
[0:58] <nid0> if the pcb melts, you're doin it wrong :p
[0:58] <pw-> haha
[0:58] <[fzH]> whats common for the timeout error ?
[0:58] <[fzH]> u think its the card ?
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[0:59] <TAFB_ssd> [fzH]: 92% of the time SD card, 7% of the time low voltage, 1% of the time not pushed in/cracked, etc.
[0:59] * ReggieUK sets mode +b *kline*!*@*
[0:59] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: checking it via ubuntu on the VM - its showing as taking the full size usb stick.
[1:00] <TAFB_ssd> you gparted already?
[1:00] <monkers> aaa801 - hey srry, what did you say to delete?
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[1:00] <nickwebcouk> Im testing using a 4gb one just now - I will use a larger hard drive later.
[1:00] <monkers> aaa801 im in safe mode now i think
[1:00] <nickwebcouk> yeaj, sudo apt-get install gparted. works like a champ!
[1:00] <[fzH]> oww, i was wrong its not a san disk, its a cnmemory ..
[1:00] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: wow, nice :)
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[1:00] <[fzH]> only one of em listed
[1:00] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: ok, next step. Take SD card out of Pi and put it back in your computer and we need to edit cmdline.txt
[1:00] <monkers> delete the kernel emegerncy image?
[1:00] <monkers> kk
[1:01] <nickwebcouk> open, and awaiting instructions...
[1:01] <TAFB_ssd> k. see root=
[1:01] <[fzH]> TAFB_ssd, no other way to fix it right now ?
[1:01] <nickwebcouk> mmcblk0p2 is being changed im guessing?
[1:01] <TAFB_ssd> you got er
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[1:02] <nickwebcouk> damm, i was trying ot be smart and figuring out what was to be changed - you got there first though!
[1:02] <garduino> is there a screen based keyboard that is loaded with the recomended linux version on the rpi? I do not have a usb keyboard at the moment... and would like to type in some network settings...
[1:02] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: change it to /dev/sda1
[1:02] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: but don't be hurt if it doesn't boot, just change it to /dev/sda2
[1:02] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: the pi is funny like that ;)
[1:02] <nickwebcouk> changed. Safley eject, plug it all in and give it a bash?
[1:03] <TAFB_ssd> you got er
[1:03] <pksato> Ual... Strong Thunder near here, aqui it black my monitor for seconds.
[1:03] <nickwebcouk> does the choice of USB port have any influence on it?
[1:03] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: more so if you have any other USB devices plugged in :(
[1:03] <[fzH]> TAFB_ssd, no other way to fix it right now ? :/
[1:03] <nickwebcouk> Gotcha.
[1:03] <nickwebcouk> Right. Just about to give this a bash..
[1:03] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: if you get it working, we can pull the UUID of the stick and put it instead of /dev/sda1 and then it'll ALWAYS boot
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[1:04] <TAFB_ssd> [fzH]: not to my knowledge. try different microusb cables and different USB power sources.
[1:04] <troulouliou_dev> hi is backtrack arm compatible with raspberry pi ?
[1:04] <[fzH]> ok, i'll have a look
[1:04] <aaa801> monkers: delete kernel_recovery.img
[1:04] <aaa801> and copy kernel.img to kernel_recovery.img
[1:04] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: without switchin on the monitor, it looks good. The USB stick is flashing like mad!
[1:05] <monkers> aaa801 - yah that seemed to work !! :D
[1:05] <[fzH]> whats the best sd card to buy ?
[1:05] <aaa801> :P
[1:05] <TAFB_ssd> [fzH]: http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Memory-PEF32GSHC10233-Series-Class/dp/B007R9NJ6E
[1:05] <monkers> you said some pi's just .. go to recovery mode for no reason?
[1:05] <aaa801> well there is a reason
[1:05] <aaa801> but its generaly sod all
[1:05] <monkers> ok
[1:05] <monkers> awesome, ty
[1:06] <aaa801> i think its caused by a gpio pair registering high
[1:06] <aaa801> guessing u have a rev 2
[1:06] <monkers> just got it
[1:06] <monkers> ya
[1:07] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: status report!
[1:07] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: sit rep, SIT REP!
[1:07] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: just checked, showing a kbd error message.
[1:07] <nickwebcouk> just trying sdb2
[1:07] <Tachyon`> Merry Christmas UK people (and anyone in a negative timezone)
[1:07] <monkers> where's the boot to desktop option set?
[1:08] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: I had to use /sda2 (not sdb1/sdb2) to get my pi to boot.
[1:08] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: dinner just arrived, back in a few
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[1:09] <_ds_> Oh look. Past midnight.
[1:09] <_ds_> HUMBUG!
[1:10] <monkers> nm found it
[1:11] * aaa801 hugs Tachyon`
[1:11] <aaa801> gimme my present :3
[1:12] * dr_willis hands out lumps of coal.
[1:12] <[fzH]> TAFB_eatin, http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0037FLUYU/ what do u think ? :)
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[1:21] <[fzH]> re
[1:21] <TAFB_ssd> [fzH]: lol, page not in english, but could be good. I've never used sandisk SD cards in my Pi, only patriot
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[1:21] <monkers> anything else to do when running headless besides not plugging in video?
[1:21] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: how's it lookin?
[1:21] <monkers> i just want to ssh to it.
[1:21] <akSeya> hello folks :)
[1:22] <TAFB_ssd> monkers: set the gpu split to 16 ;)
[1:23] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: on pause at the moment looking for a different cable - some people just dont like me playing with my toys at 00:22 when theres something good on the tv.
[1:23] <TAFB_ssd> haha
[1:23] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: do you still have regular wheezy on separate SD card we could boot if needed?
[1:24] <nickwebcouk> but, just at the last boot, it looked like it was hanging after finding the USB stick.
[1:24] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: I do, just in case.
[1:24] <akSeya> anyone using arch with raspi? i need to ask a thing...
[1:25] <akSeya> well.. I created a net-persistent.rules on /etc/udev/rules.d so I can name both my wifi usb, but looks like udev is not reading it on boot.. what should I do?
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[1:25] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: i read that we might need to do two things: 1) boot the Pi off regular wheezy SD card, WITH your usb drive connected, and check the /dev mounting point and 2) mount the USB drive and edit the etc/fstab file and put the mount stuff in there too.
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[1:27] <nickwebcouk> Gotcha. Im going to have to pause it just now though - Are you on here regularly, or is there an onlice doc with that info I could butcher? As soon as i get it workign I'll writeup a full how to on what I've done at my end...
[1:27] <monkers> can the rpi gpio pins drive an LED?
[1:27] <monkers> nm.. *reads more*
[1:28] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: I'm on here always, it you google raspberrypi move OS to USB you might be able to find some tidbits of info. there's also the log from here, search back for fstab and see if you can find when the guy walked me through it
[1:28] <Grievre> monkers: the answer is no for most chips, not just raspberry pi
[1:28] <Grievre> monkers: but really the answer is "depends on the LED"
[1:28] <monkers> the arduino can, right?
[1:28] <Grievre> monkers: again, depends on the LED :)
[1:28] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: legend! I'll have a look. Quick question before I head thou - The server your files are hosted on - is that the case your using for your rPi?
[1:28] <monkers> oh ya
[1:28] <akSeya> ok no one?! :(
[1:28] <nickwebcouk> and thanks again TAFB_ssd, its much appreciated!
[1:29] <[fzH]> TAFB_ssd, i'll give it a try .. anyway thank you :)
[1:29] <monkers> so i'd need a transistor right?
[1:29] <Grievre> monkers: Well actually... any chip's GPIO pins can drive an LED, it's just a matter of how bright :)
[1:29] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: not 100% sure what your question is. This is/was my Pi: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-17-RaspberryPi_with_external_drive.jpg
[1:30] <monkers> well, i built a robot with an arduino and im wondering how differently the motor drivers are going to be to wire up and stuff like that.
[1:30] <nickwebcouk> Thats the one! nice case!
[1:30] <TAFB_ssd> thanks :)
[1:30] <TAFB_ssd> it costs twice what the Pi does ;)
[1:30] <monkers> but i never power anything directly off the arduino so, no prob
[1:30] <nickwebcouk> did you put a HDD in the cd drive?
[1:30] <akSeya> TAFB_ssd, is that an optical drive? on a PI?
[1:30] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: I put a SSD in the CD drive ;)
[1:30] <nickwebcouk> TAFB_ssd: smart. Very smart!
[1:31] <nickwebcouk> Anyway, I have to head. Thanks again for all your help!
[1:31] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: worked great, but even SSD over USB 2.0 is crappy :(
[1:31] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: so I moved everything off the Pi and I'm running Linux inside this little black seagate box now: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2012-12-23-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_hacked_with_Arch_Linux_Sandisk_SSD.jpg
[1:31] <TAFB_ssd> way faster
[1:31] <TAFB_ssd> that little black box is hosting and generating this right now: http://tafb.yi.org/
[1:31] <TAFB_ssd> so fast ;)
[1:32] <nickwebcouk> I saw that status you posted earlier. It all makes sense now!
[1:32] <TAFB_ssd> hehe
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[1:32] <Grievre> monkers: I'm going to guess the raspberry pi's pins have much less current handling capability than the ATMega series
[1:32] <TAFB_ssd> people are like "how can you be running webserver inside that seagate box?!?" lol. It's got a 1.2ghz cpu, dedicated SATA3 chip, dedicated gigabit ethernet!!! so fast :)
[1:33] <TAFB_ssd> nickwebcouk: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SEAGATE-GOFLEX-HOME-3-5-SATA-NETWORK-NAS-Hard-Disk-Drive-Enclosure-Caddy-Case-/321044896871?pt=UK_Collectables_HardDriveEnclosures_RL&hash=item4abfc45c67
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[1:43] <Grievre> You know what I'm finding a little annoying? The Pi doesn't have any clear indication as to when it's done shutting down, if you are running it headless
[1:43] <Grievre> if you issue a shutdown command from SSH, it cuts your SSH off way before the shutdown process is finished
[1:44] <Grievre> the only way to tell when it's safe to cut power is via video or maybe serial
[1:44] <TAFB_ssd> Grievre: it does, it blinks the act LED three times when unmounting the boot device
[1:44] <TAFB_ssd> if you do a halt you'll see it
[1:44] <TAFB_ssd> then you know it's done
[1:46] <Grievre> ah ok
[1:46] * _ds_ has noticed the finished-shutting-down blinkenlights
[1:46] <_ds_> (well, blinkenlight)
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[1:48] <dr_willis> it should blink out in morse code 'Time to power off'
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[1:49] <dr_willis> never noticed the blinky lights here. but my Pi is up on a shelf out of the way from kids and spilt sodas
[1:49] <akSeya> dr_willis, in loop
[1:50] <garduino> I have a d-link wifi dongle... I see my cell phone hotspot... however there are many unusual settings that I am not familiar with... I selected psk... and ccmp (not sure what ccmp is)... anyway... cant connect... need some help...
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[1:53] * _ds_ sets fire to a large log
[1:53] <_ds_> ??? midwinter festival, right?
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[1:53] <garduino> that status always says `scanning` no connection
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[1:55] <Chronax> Are any of the black pins here okay to use as ground? http://elinux.org/images/2/2a/GPIOs.png
[1:57] <TAFB_ssd> pin 6 is good ground.
[1:57] <Chronax> TAFB_ssd: What about pin 9?
[1:58] <TAFB_ssd> no idea, never used gpio for stuff other than back powering the Pi ;)
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[2:13] <monkers> Chronax whatcha doin
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[2:15] <shapr> Hello peoples! Is there some way to script my Pi to attach to any open wifi AP and then check for 'real' internet?
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[2:15] <shapr> What I really want is an existing solution I can just download... I could write this myself with Python or zsh.
[2:16] <TAFB_ssd> someone already wrote one, did you check the raspberrypi.org forums?
[2:16] <shapr> I've been searching the forums for the past ten minutes, but man there's a lot of content.
[2:17] <shapr> Would you happen to know a keyword that I could search?
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[2:17] * shapr looks for a 'utilities' section
[2:17] <TAFB_ssd> i do not :( if you ask in here about 18 hours from now, the guy who created it should bei n here :)
[2:17] <shapr> What's his nick?
[2:17] <TAFB_ssd> no clue
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[2:18] <shapr> Thanks for the tip :-)
[2:18] <TAFB_ssd> lol
[2:18] <TAFB_ssd> good luck :)
[2:18] <Launch_Director> so which is the official RPi channel?
[2:18] <TAFB_ssd> maybe you can search the logs of this channel.
[2:18] <TAFB_ssd> on freenode's website
[2:18] <shapr> Any idea whether this person wrote that utility in Python, bash, or what?
[2:18] <TAFB_ssd> unknown, I would assume python
[2:19] <ScarletSwordfish> is there a way to get the Pi version of LibreOffice without going through the Pi Store?
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[2:22] <sheldor> can the rpi be powered through a laptop usb port?
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[2:22] <TAFB_ssd> sheldor: not usually
[2:22] <sheldor> and practically?
[2:23] <sheldor> i mean i know the usb spec only allows 500mA max
[2:23] <shapr> Mine works fine from a laptop usb port.
[2:23] <TAFB_ssd> sheldor: sometimes with a high quality microUSB cable, and NOTHING plugged into the pi (no mouse, no keyboard, no screen), sometimes it works.
[2:23] <sheldor> but i also know practically many laptops allow more
[2:23] <sheldor> TAFB_ssd: i see
[2:23] <sheldor> cool shapr
[2:23] <sheldor> comradekingu: with keyboard and mouse?
[2:24] <sheldor> ~er shapr ^
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[2:27] <shapr> sheldor: Haven't tried that. I just put Raspbian on my sdcard and plugged in power and ethernet.
[2:27] <shapr> I use ssh -X for everything else.
[2:27] <sheldor> what is the worst thing that can happen if you connect the pi to a low current power supply? can it break the pi, the psu, both?
[2:27] <sheldor> thanks shapr
[2:28] <TAFB_ssd> sheldor: worse is corrupted sd card requiring re-imaging, but no permenant damage
[2:28] <sheldor> thanks perfect
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[2:30] <Ben64> is there a way to play a directory of video or mp3s with omxplayer
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[2:30] <Ben64> omxplayer *mp3 only plays the first one
[2:31] <_ds_> Loop?
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[2:31] <_ds_> for i in *.mp3; do omxplayer "$i"; done
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[2:32] <Ben64> cool
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[2:34] <xrosnight> sadly my raspberry doesnt' recognize my keyboard well. all . raspbian, archlinux
[2:34] <xrosnight> die of driver :(
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[2:35] <garduino> cheasee when I leave the hotspot OPEN I am able to connect... but now ?I
[2:35] <garduino> I can not connect with wpa or wpa2
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[2:35] <garduino> which are my only two other options for my android phones hotspot settings
[2:36] <Ben64> then leave it open?
[2:37] <garduino> na... I cant leave my network open...
[2:37] <Ben64> should have an option to block based on mac
[2:37] <garduino> well... I am not a network wiz... would not know how to do that
[2:38] <Ben64> my phone gives me that option
[2:38] <garduino> hmmm interesting... well I do not see any options like that in my hotspot setup
[2:38] <Ben64> which phone
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[2:39] <Megaf> Hey folks
[2:39] <garduino> samsug andriod - latest os
[2:39] <Megaf> Merry Christmas for you!
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[2:44] <Grievar> So, public service announcement: You do NOT need an i2c-compatible level shifter to connect a raspberry pi to an arduino via I2C
[2:45] <Grievar> because the voltage of the I2C bus is dictated by the pullup resistors (which are on the Pi and thus pull it up to 3.3V)
[2:45] <Grievar> and the AVR can talk I2C at 3.3V just fine
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[2:45] <Grievar> you might get better performance if you use a level shifter though
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[2:46] <Grievar> just make sure you never accidentally set those pins to 5V. It shouldn't be hard since those pins are input with no pullup to start with (at least on the diecimila)
[2:47] <Grievar> er, disclaimer: it /might/ be the case that newer arduino boards have pullups to 5V on the I2C pins, but at least for the diecimila and the duemilanove, they don't
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[3:01] <garduino> need some help connecting to my hotspot with wpa_gui ... if someone with experience could please send me a private chat
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[3:08] * Tachyon` wonders who is aaa801
[3:09] <garduino> is it possible that this old d-link wifi dongle will not connect with modern networks (though it connects when the network security is set to OPEN)
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[3:23] <Launch_Director> how do i turn back on the RPi if i do a "sudo halt" ?
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[3:24] <Launch_Director> i'd like to get to wake up from keyboard
[3:24] <Launch_Director> to get it*
[3:25] <_ds_> Rev. 1 or rev. 2?
[3:25] <_ds_> If the latter, you can wire a reset button to P6
[3:25] <pksato> RPi dont have a power control circuit, like APM/ACPI of PC.
[3:26] <Launch_Director> _ds_: i think 2, it has 512mb ram
[3:26] <_ds_> Millibits? ???
[3:27] <shiftplusone> Launch_Director, the quickest way is to unplug and plug back in.
[3:27] <Launch_Director> couldn't i just put it to standy
[3:27] <Launch_Director> standby
[3:28] <Launch_Director> and wake it up with keyboard?
[3:28] <_ds_> That's effectively what halting it does. Standby.
[3:28] <_ds_> But as for waking it via they keyboard???
[3:28] * _ds_ expects not
[3:28] * Launch_Director wonders what would have happened if i shutdown instead
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[3:31] <_ds_> http://raspi.tv/tag/reset-button-raspberry-pi ??? I found that the reset plug (stock PC reset switch) is just slightly too tall for the case (one of the plastic ones which Farnell supply) but that there's enough spare plastic at the top to allow it to be cut down to fit.
[3:31] <Launch_Director> so what is the command to shut it down
[3:32] <Launch_Director> if halt is standby
[3:32] <_ds_> There isn't one.
[3:32] <_ds_> halt == shutdown -h now
[3:32] <Launch_Director> yeh..man page tells the same
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[3:33] <Launch_Director> so...halt then plug cables out, i'm guessing it's not good practice to just yank the power
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[3:35] <_ds_> Always better to have filesystems unmounted first???
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[3:35] <Launch_Director> i have to figure out someway to put RPi to sleep then wake it up
[3:35] <Launch_Director> remotely
[3:36] <bsd1101> poweroff....
[3:36] <pksato> need a power control circuit. an arduino can do it.
[3:38] <Launch_Director> remotely as in ethernet or 3g
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[3:40] <pksato> BCM SoC can put in very low power mode?
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[3:42] <Launch_Director> ?
[3:42] <Launch_Director> and an arduino uses even more power than an RPi
[3:43] <Launch_Director> i'm using both anyway.. trying to figure out how to put both to sleep
[3:44] <Launch_Director> i'm guessing once the solar panels charged the battery i can have a switch to turn the rest on
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[3:50] <pksato> http://www.bitwizard.nl/wiki/index.php?title=Reducing_power_consumption_of_a_raspberry_Pi
[3:52] <Launch_Director> thanks
[3:52] <Launch_Director> btw is there no official RPi channel?
[3:53] <Hodapp> an Arduino uses more power than a Pi?!
[3:54] <shapr> Launch_Director: I think this is it
[3:55] <ReggieUK> this is as official as it gets
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[3:56] <netw1z> oh yeah!
[3:57] <pksato> http://www.seanet.com/~karllunt/RasPiRegulatorReplacement.html
[3:59] <Launch_Director> Hodapp: just checked looks like it uses much less.. about 180mW
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[4:04] <SpeedEvil> arduino - well - avr - can use fractions of a milliamp
[4:04] <SpeedEvil> in lower power modes
[4:04] <SpeedEvil> it'a 10ma or so tops normally
[4:05] <SpeedEvil> 180ma is the 'chip about to explode as you're driving lots of LEDs.
[4:06] <Launch_Director> mW not ma
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[4:08] <Launch_Director> 9V * 0.035 = 315mW more average value
[4:08] <Launch_Director> or max value
[4:09] <Launch_Director> anyway..ill use the arduino
[4:12] <sheldor> can i use multiple usb gamepads to play snes, ps, xbox games in an emulator?
[4:13] <sheldor> i mean, do the emulators handle the multiple HIDs correctly?
[4:15] <pksato> power control for rpi? http://www.bitwizard.nl/wiki/index.php/PiPower
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[5:17] <Tachyon`> wonder if a lot of pis will be given for christmas
[5:18] <Tachyon`> one can hope
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[5:24] <dr_willis> sheldor: they should. ive done it befor with zsnes
[5:24] <sheldor> oh nice dr_willis :)
[5:24] <dr_willis> now how well the emulators run.. is another story...
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[5:28] <sheldor> dr_willis: there are impressive videos on youtube
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[5:30] <dr_willis> running an xbox emulator?
[5:30] <dr_willis> i can see zsnes.. but xbox or ps may be a bit much
[5:31] <atouk> i'm always amazed by the guys that can figure out how to software emulate custom hardware
[5:32] <dr_willis> yep. was big on emulators for years..
[5:32] <dr_willis> not so much in recent years.
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[5:33] <dr_willis> C64 on my Amiga years and Years ago.
[5:33] <dr_willis> Even had custom adaptors to access the c= hard drives
[5:33] <netw1z> these google command li apps are just what the doctor ordered
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[5:33] <atouk> millions of dollars on chip development, and some 16 year old in the basement writes code to emulate it on another platform
[5:35] <dr_willis> i got a C64 game thing that fits into a atari joystick sized package. :) and runs on a TV on battery power. ;)
[5:36] <Tachyon`> yeah, but years later, it's not the same
[5:36] <dr_willis> cost me like $20 - the good old times.
[5:36] <Tachyon`> dr_willis: , the DTV? I wrote a flash fs generator for that
[5:36] <Tachyon`> just fill it with PRGs of your choice
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[5:37] <Tachyon`> the DTV has 2MB FLash, 2MB RAM, a 320x200x256 colour mode and acceleration up to like 20MHz 6502 (albeit wtihout video generation)
[5:37] <Tachyon`> it was designed to be hacked
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[5:40] <dr_willis> dont recall its name. It was $20 from home shopping network. was in an Atari Joystick - came with like 30 games
[5:40] <Tachyon`> do you mean a competition pro joystick
[5:40] <dr_willis> dont even know where its at. :) I just played Impossible Mission on it. ;)
[5:40] <Tachyon`> http://www.richardlagendijk.nl/foto/cip/computer_c64_dtv1_02.jpg
[5:40] <Tachyon`> that
[5:40] <dr_willis> I think it had Paradroids also.
[5:41] <Tachyon`> paradroid and yes, it dose
[5:41] <dr_willis> No Browser here. ;) console commando today
[5:41] <Tachyon`> that's the one, it's a full c64, you can even add an IEC interface and PS/2 keyboard to it
[5:41] <dr_willis> yep. been sort of neat if they had targeted it at the hacker/kid/mod groups like the Pi did.
[5:42] <Tachyon`> http://picobay.com/dtv_wiki/images/0/0e/C64DTV_solderpoints.jpg
[5:42] <Tachyon`> user port and second joystick port too
[5:42] <dr_willis> I gave away all my C64 stuff ages ago when a tree took out my garrage.
[5:42] <dr_willis> and other old stuff.
[5:42] <Tachyon`> ahhh
[5:43] <dr_willis> I literally had a Pickup truck full of old pcs. Just sitting in the garrage basically rotting away
[5:43] <dr_willis> Told the people i gave them to - 'Sell them on Ebay!'
[5:43] <Tachyon`> I still have one of those in its original packaging (in addition to the modded one and the one I made a balls up of when a tiny SMD resistor pinged off into the distance) I wish I'd bought more, they're worth some money now
[5:43] <Tachyon`> lol
[5:44] <dr_willis> well if you can find someone that actually wants one. I gave a few away to Old-timer HAM radio ops who used them for a translater
[5:44] <Tachyon`> ah, for RTTY, SSTV and the like
[5:44] <dr_willis> Yep.
[5:44] <Tachyon`> used to use XTs for that
[5:44] <dr_willis> Thats even dieing out. all the old hams are... well... OLD. ;)
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[5:44] <Tachyon`> not personally, no license here -.o
[5:45] <Tachyon`> although I could easily get one, they've reduced the requirements to teh point a 5yr old could pass
[5:45] <Tachyon`> and gone to three levels of license instead of two
[5:45] <Tachyon`> none of which involve morse
[5:45] <dr_willis> I havent even listend to my shortwave radio collection in years.
[5:45] <Tachyon`> wonder if number stations still exist
[5:45] <Tachyon`> used to like poking around shortwave as a kid
[5:45] <Tachyon`> just listening, lol
[5:46] <dr_willis> gotten where i dont even want to hear the local news. ;)
[5:46] <Tachyon`> ah, you haev a pandora too
[5:46] <Tachyon`> were you expecting pandora levels of speed from the pi
[5:46] <Tachyon`> because I bloody was and I didn't get hem
[5:47] <Tachyon`> thought it was just an earlier instruction set, not vastly less efficient with it, lol
[5:47] <Tachyon`> still, it's good enough, jsut a case of not being lazy when porting/coding
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[5:47] <dr_willis> I dident expect much from the Pi. ;) im amazed it does video playback as well as it does.
[5:47] <Tachyon`> well, it does it all in hardware so it would, lol
[5:47] <Tachyon`> only the audio is decoded in software
[5:48] <Tachyon`> which btw is enough to make it keel over on HD wrath of khan
[5:48] <dr_willis> was going to use the Pi for a DLNA/xbmc machine. only big issue i got is i cant watch crunchyroll on it. :)
[5:48] <Tachyon`> can't deal with 8 channels at once, poor thing
[5:48] <Tachyon`> although on some others it can
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[5:48] <Tachyon`> which makes me suspect wrath of khan is using some huge bitrate
[5:49] <Tachyon`> I have to set one up for someone in the nxt few days
[5:49] <dr_willis> You need it to hear the quality of Capt.Kirks acting dialogs...
[5:49] <dr_willis> ;)
[5:49] <Tachyon`> he bought it for an xbmc machine on my reommendation
[5:49] <dr_willis> I really like my BoxeeBox but the company is just dropping the ball on to many things. ;()
[5:49] <Tachyon`> yes, he's not my favourite captain but it'd be niec to watch them al lin HD
[5:49] <Tachyon`> had to resort to playing on teh PC and using TV as a secondary monitor as i did in my pre pi days
[5:49] <Tachyon`> yeah, like releasing bianries for windows/linux etc.
[5:49] <Tachyon`> they seem to have stopped
[5:50] <Tachyon`> I'm really glad I bothered betatesting something that was going to be withheld from people who didn't buy their hardware
[5:50] <Tachyon`> (unrelated note, got on the FF:XIV remake alpha, it's very much improved but I'm not allowed to show any media)
[5:51] <Tachyon`> ((in fact the website mentioned in four places the sort of legal action that could result from showing screnshots etc.))
[5:51] <dr_willis> Im more annoyed at their lack of updates to the boxeebox. I found xbmc or plex works better on the pc. ;)
[5:51] * dr_willis cant even count that high.
[5:51] <Tachyon`> can you not just run xbmc on the boxee box
[5:51] <Tachyon`> well, they released it last year
[5:51] <Tachyon`> I bought it
[5:51] <Tachyon`> it was very poor
[5:51] <dr_willis> Modding/hacking the boxeebox - is a bit of a pain aparently.
[5:51] <Tachyon`> I didn't pay past the first month
[5:52] <Tachyon`> everyone disliked it, did serious damage to squeenix actually
[5:52] <Tachyon`> so they're redoing it all
[5:52] <Tachyon`> and releasing the game again
[5:52] <dr_willis> heh. I dont even bother with MMORPGs any moar.
[5:53] <Tachyon`> I'm /very/ close to level 90 on WoW atm, (IE: 89.7, lol)
[5:54] <Tachyon`> although I won't be able to play it until the next expansion after that
[5:54] <Tachyon`> as I dont' like raiding
[5:54] <Tachyon`> although I can just not pay the monthly fee and pay it again when a new one comes ot
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[5:55] <dr_willis> Got a Lifetime membership to Lord Of the rings online when it came out. ;) and thats the only MMORPG i got. havent even played it in a year+ - i hate to think of the huge updates it will need when i log in again
[5:55] <_Daedalus_> Hello. Has anyone here managed to get an ST7565 display to work with the Raspberry Pi? http://www.adafruit.com/products/250
[5:55] <Tachyon`> it's free now (LoTRO), I still didn't like it
[5:56] <Tachyon`> it seemed to be trying to be WoW and failing
[5:56] <UnaClocker> I wonder how many Pi are wrapped up under Christmas trees tonight...
[5:56] <Tachyon`> although D&D Online was /worse/ and I had high hopes for that
[5:56] <dr_willis> Did D&Donline and.. ddoent even last the free first month. ;)
[5:56] <ScarletSwordfish> one here, UnaClocker
[5:56] <Dagger2> you could of course just buy Guild Wars 2, and thus not have to bother with monthly fees at all
[5:56] <Tachyon`> I've not played that one, what is it
[5:57] <UnaClocker> My lapdock is wrapped under the tree.. :)
[5:57] <dr_willis> havent even tried Guildwars2 - i got SICK of all the spammy mail they kept sending me about it befor it even came out. ;)
[5:57] <dr_willis> so many Mmorpgs out there.. so little time..
[5:57] <ScarletSwordfish> Anyone know if i can get LibreOffice for RPi outside the Pi Store?
[5:57] <dr_willis> ScarletSwordfish: sudo apt-get install packagename perhaps?
[5:57] <UnaClocker> ScarletSwordfish: Yeah, apt-get install libre-office or something close to that.
[5:58] <ScarletSwordfish> o.o ok
[5:58] <dr_willis> from the little ive seen the store - mos stuff is just a fancy apt-get link.
[5:58] <Dagger2> it's on sale-ish at their official store right now... but it's still ??35
[5:58] <dr_willis> its just a more user-friendly interface to the apt. Saleing libreoffice? thats sort of sick.
[5:58] <Dagger2> because the sale is mainly on the deluxe ultra extreme edition which comes with a couple of completely useless items
[5:58] <ScarletSwordfish> i think he's talking about GuildWars
[5:58] <dr_willis> ;)
[5:59] <ScarletSwordfish> OH SARCASM
[5:59] <ScarletSwordfish> GOT ME AGAIN!
[5:59] <ScarletSwordfish> the pi store is cool
[6:00] <ScarletSwordfish> but i don't want to make an account
[6:00] <dr_willis> im basically console only on my Pi. so i dont plan on spending much time at the Pi Store.
[6:00] <ScarletSwordfish> cos it's for my brother
[6:00] <ScarletSwordfish> i am an eternal noob with command lines
[6:01] <dr_willis> start lerning. :)
[6:01] <Tachyon`> if you want an x based apt store just install synaptic
[6:01] <Tachyon`> it's free
[6:01] <Tachyon`> and requires no logins
[6:01] <Tachyon`> I didn't even know there was a pi store
[6:01] <Tachyon`> but I tend to roll my own as much as possible anyway,l ol
[6:01] <ScarletSwordfish> it just came out last week i guess
[6:02] <Tachyon`> the one on the pandora is nice
[6:02] <Tachyon`> ED needs to stop giving things way until there's a lot more pandoras in the field though and a larger base of programmers
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[6:10] <Chronax> Is there any way to run something as root on startup in Raspbian? Basically, I need to run a ruby script AFTER sudo -i after boot.
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[6:11] <dr_willis> err;; /etc/rc.local is the last system service/script to run. it runs as root.
[6:11] <dr_willis> not clear on what you are doning however.. 'after sudo -i' dosent make much sence
[6:11] <dr_willis> system boots -> services startup -> last service runs rc.local
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[6:13] <Chronax> Well, my ruby script requires access to GPIO pins, and I've been unsuccessful using rvmsudo to try to run it with sudo, and instead have to sudo -i, and then run the ruby script.
[6:14] <Tachyon`> I take it you can't just run it setuid root or anything
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[6:15] <dr_willis> rc.local runs at root
[6:15] <dr_willis> as root.. at boot
[6:15] <Chronax> So... that should work?
[6:15] <Chronax> Cool.
[6:16] <Chronax> Thanks!
[6:16] <dr_willis> no sudo needed. be sure to run the command in the background with a &
[6:16] <Chronax> Right.
[6:16] <Chronax> I need to run a ruby script, and start the thin webserver for a rails app, both on startup.
[6:21] <Chronax> Hrm...
[6:21] <Chronax> I added an entry to rc.local to run the ruby script and tested it on the console. It worked there, but when I rebooted and looked at the process list the ruby script isn't running.
[6:22] <dr_willis> you did add it BEFOR the last 'exit' command in rc.local ?
[6:22] <dr_willis> what is the exact commands you added.
[6:22] <Chronax> Yes, I did.
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[6:23] <dr_willis> for complex stuff i find it easier to have rc.local run a seperate script.
[6:23] <Chronax> http://pastie.org/5574911
[6:24] <Chronax> Just added those 2 lines, dr_willis.
[6:24] <dr_willis> i got no browser handy. ;)
[6:24] <Chronax> Before the last exit command.
[6:24] <Chronax> Ugh, hate to paste them here.
[6:24] <dr_willis> heh. let me jump to my phone to see them
[6:24] <Chronax> source /home/blah/.rvm/environments/ruby-1.9.3-p327 &
[6:24] <Chronax> ruby /home/blah/git/myscript.rb &
[6:24] <dr_willis> Hmm..
[6:25] <Chronax> It's just those 2.
[6:25] <Chronax> Which... should work?
[6:25] <dr_willis> rc.local MAY be using 'sh' instead of bash
[6:25] <Tachyon`> if it outputs anything you'll want to redirect taht too
[6:25] <Tachyon`> it will be using sh
[6:25] <Tachyon`> sh is standard for noninteractive shells so your ram doesn't get eaten
[6:25] <dr_willis> id put all the commands in a single startup.bash script and just /path/to/startup.bash &
[6:25] <Tachyon`> http://www.smbc-comics.com/
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[6:26] <Tachyon`> if you don't redirect the output and it outputs anything, the script will stop
[6:26] <Chronax> dr_willis: So just drop those 2 lines into a file with a .bash extension and chmod it?
[6:26] <dr_willis> any extension you want.. or none at all.
[6:26] <dr_willis> be like 3 lines total..
[6:26] <dr_willis> #!/bin/bash
[6:26] <Chronax> How does rc.local know it's executing a bash script?
[6:26] <dr_willis> your-2-commands
[6:26] <Chronax> Aha! The Shebang.
[6:26] <Chronax> Thanks.
[6:27] <dr_willis> She Bang! he Bang! we all Bang!
[6:27] <Chronax> heh
[6:27] <dr_willis> or in rc.local -> bash /path/to/whatever.bash ;)
[6:27] <dr_willis> im not sure if dash is the default sh or not on rasbian
[6:28] <dr_willis> it really messed up a lot of people when the move from using 'bash' for 'sh' happened a few years back
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[6:32] <Chronax> That didn't work either. :(
[6:33] <Chronax> Created a bash script, chmod'ed it, added a line to rc.local that pointed at the .bash file and preceded it with an &.
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[6:33] <Chronax> Ugh.
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[7:01] <mrmoney2012> morning all - merry christmas - is there a way to check the network activity live on the Pi at a point in time - i.e. throughput MB/sec ?
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[7:03] <ShiftPlusOne> iptraf
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[7:06] <mrmoney2012> ok. thanks
[7:10] <ShiftPlusOne> mrmoney2012: also, https://kmandla.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/console-network-monitors/
[7:17] <mrmoney2012> if top is nice - tells me it's currently doing RX: 33.4Mb on this gargantuan file transfer job to a USB HDD, how slow is that exactly for a raspberry nas
[7:17] <TAFB> 30mb/sec ish is the fastest the Pi can do
[7:18] <mrmoney2012> I am executing it to be slow-ish - powerline adapters unfortunately. Can't run a wire in its present location.
[7:19] <mrmoney2012> so - errr, sorry I can never work this out - what is 33.4Mb/sec (as reported bottom left of iptraf) in mb/sec ?
[7:21] <mrmoney2012> sorry iptraf = iftop
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[7:37] <Aranel> TAFB: switched over to Seagate? :)
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[7:41] <TAFB> Aranel: yep :) http://tafb.yi.org/
[7:41] <TAFB> click the "stop" button to see dynamic live updating of the uptime, cpu load (but not graph) and meminfo!
[7:43] <Aranel> already noticed =)
[7:43] <TAFB> does the dynamic update work?? lemme know cause I'm just coding it :)
[7:43] <Aranel> so you added meminfo too :) but removed CPU temperature
[7:44] <TAFB> I can't find any way to read the cpu temperature on this box :(
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[7:49] <Aranel> d'oh
[7:49] * cccy_RegeaneWolf is now known as cccyRegeaneWolfe
[7:49] <Aranel> btw, I learned that sd card is simply not good enough for Transmission
[7:50] <Aranel> buying a 2tb external drive now =)
[7:50] <TAFB> nice!! :)
[7:50] <TAFB> you know how to move OS over to USB?
[7:50] <Aranel> nope, I'll have to figure it out :)
[7:50] <TAFB> lol :)
[7:50] <Aranel> TAFB: http://pi.aranelsurion.org/piwww/casablanca
[7:50] <Aranel> does it look good? ^^
[7:51] <TAFB> looks great :)
[7:51] <TAFB> loaded fast!
[7:51] <Aranel> it's only a login page, got it from SimpleAdmin
[7:51] <TAFB> php?
[7:51] <Aranel> yeah it's very nice :) now making a new dashboard for it
[7:51] <Aranel> yep
[7:51] <TAFB> wow, can't believe it loaded so fast for php :)
[7:52] <Aranel> It'll be awesome when I got my hands on that drive :)
[7:52] <TAFB> for sure :)
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[7:57] <TAFB> anyone good with jquery? :( http://pastie.org/5575075
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[8:17] <Coburn> Merry Xmas.
[8:19] <dr_willis> I just woke up from my Thanksgiving TurkeyFeast nap!
[8:19] <mrmoney2012> Merry Christmas??? a quick festive quiz - what is 33.4Mb/sec (as reported bottom left of iptop) in mb/sec ?
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[8:22] <ShiftPlusOne> nice try
[8:23] <ParkerR_> mrmoney2012, https://www.google.com/search?q=33.4%20megabytes%20to%20magebits
[8:23] <Tachyon`> well, he was asking how to convert megabits to milibits by the looks of that...
[8:23] <ParkerR_> Ohhh
[8:24] <Tachyon`> also, muggles can't use magebits
[8:24] <ParkerR_> I read is megabytes to bits
[8:24] <ParkerR_> Tachyon`, :P
[8:24] <ShiftPlusOne> lol
[8:25] <ShiftPlusOne> mrmoney2012: usually it's either b or B, the change of case on the m doesn't say anything in this context.
[8:25] <mrmoney2012> what i really want to know is how bad the performance of the raspberry has is
[8:26] <Coburn> It's like a 133Mhz Pentium
[8:26] <Ben64> no
[8:26] <Coburn> lolno
[8:26] <ShiftPlusOne> but it sounds like you want to divide it by 8
[8:26] <mrmoney2012> has =nas
[8:26] <Ben64> raspberry nas is?
[8:26] <Ben64> :|
[8:26] <mrmoney2012> 4.175 ??? sounds about right
[8:28] <ShiftPlusOne> what always throws me off is whether it's 1000 or 1024 =/
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[8:32] <ShiftPlusOne> Hmm, well that clears that up https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_rate_units
[8:32] <ShiftPlusOne> never heard anyone say mebibyte or gibibyte O_o
[8:34] <ParkerR_> ShiftPlusOne, Usually only hard drive manufactures use 1000 to rate their hard drives
[8:34] <ParkerR_> That's why the actual space is always less than reported on the box
[8:34] <Ben64> cause those are stupid terms
[8:34] <Ben64> megabyte will always be 1024 to me
[8:35] <ShiftPlusOne> but... but... SI units...
[8:35] <ParkerR_> But but meh
[8:35] <ParkerR_> Ben64, Agreed
[8:35] <Ben64> gibi sounds dumb
[8:36] <Coburn> GIMMEBYTE
[8:36] <ShiftPlusOne> Do you draw the distinction between MB and MiB?
[8:38] <ShiftPlusOne> And what do gnu tools like du and df use. O_o
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[8:39] <ParkerR_> ShiftPlusOne, I'm pretty sure 1024
[8:39] <ParkerR_> Because they report actual sizes
[8:39] <Xark> ShiftPlusOne: df has an option for 1024 or 1000 IIRC.
[8:40] <ParkerR_> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7VxQpA2b
[8:40] <ShiftPlusOne> ah -H
[8:40] <Ben64> SIZE may be (or may be an integer optionally followed by) one of fol???
[8:40] <Ben64> lowing: KB 1000, K 1024, MB 1000*1000, M 1024*1024, and so on for G, T,
[8:40] <Ben64> P, E, Z, Y.
[8:41] <ParkerR_> -h is human readable
[8:41] <Tachyon`> df -hT is waht I typically use
[8:41] <Tachyon`> human readable with fs types
[8:41] <ShiftPlusOne> ParkerR_: capital H.
[8:41] <ParkerR_> What?
[8:41] <ShiftPlusOne> -H, --si
[8:41] <ShiftPlusOne> likewise, but use powers of 1000 not 1024
[8:41] <Tachyon`> what df needs is an option to exclude things that aren't actual filesystems, like proc etc.
[8:42] <ParkerR_> Ahh
[8:42] <Ben64> /dev/sdc2 2.7T 840G 1.7T 33% /mnt/tree \\\VS\\\ /dev/sdc2 2.9T 902G 1.9T 33% /mnt/tree
[8:42] <Tachyon`> dunno why anyone would want si units in df, it'd make the drive look a little bigger but other than that...
[8:43] <ShiftPlusOne> I would imagine the notation might annoy a few scientists and engineers maybe.
[8:43] <Tachyon`> here's a handy guide to the various types... http://xkcd.com/394/
[8:43] <ParkerR_> Tachyon`, Ahh I like the T http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=zREwqi8N
[8:44] <ShiftPlusOne> Tachyon`: that clears it up, thanks.
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[8:46] <Tachyon`> how the hell is 1280x800 an HD projector
[8:47] <ShiftPlusOne> well, 720 is considered hd, isn't it?
[8:47] <Tachyon`> by the same people who consider 1000000 bytes a megabyte, yes
[8:48] <ShiftPlusOne> heh
[8:48] <pippin> ntsc used to be 480 scanlines and pal 576. 800 lines is quite a little bit more
[8:48] <Tachyon`> HD is 1080
[8:48] <Tachyon`> if it's not 1080 (or more), it's not HD, they call it HD Ready I think
[8:48] <pippin> I call 1080 ... 1080p - keeps confusion away
[8:49] <Tachyon`> lol, there wouldn't be any confusion without manufacturers lying about what they're selling but heh
[8:49] <Tachyon`> I've seen 800x600 projectors sold as HD ffs
[8:49] <Tachyon`> and that is barely more than PAL (at 704x576)
[8:49] <ShiftPlusOne> well, if you mount it sideways, you get 800 horizontal lines, so...
[8:49] <Ben64> 720p is HD
[8:50] <Tachyon`> no it isn't, heh, it's a pale shadow of HD
[8:50] <Tachyon`> particularly if it's coming out of a projector
[8:50] <Ben64> 1080p is HD too, but so is 720p
[8:50] <Tachyon`> saying it doesn't make it so, heh
[8:50] <TAFB> they call 1080p "true HD" here, and HD is 720p
[8:50] <Ben64> but it is so
[8:50] <Ben64> so it is so
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[8:51] <Coburn> Well, I've seen 2160p as "Real HD"
[8:51] <Hoerie> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-definition_television -> 720p, 1080i, 1080p
[8:51] <Tachyon`> in fact 720p is less than half the pixels of 1080p
[8:51] <Coburn> Those allwinner poopy things supposedly can do it
[8:51] <Coburn> no
[8:51] <Tachyon`> I'd call 2160p unaffordably expensive myself
[8:51] <ParkerR_> 1080i is hardly HD. ONly 540 verical lines
[8:52] <Ben64> 1080p didn't even exist at first
[8:52] <ParkerR_> *vertical
[8:52] <Ben64> it was 720p and 1080i
[8:52] <Tachyon`> 1080i is still 1080 lines, just half refreshed on each frame
[8:52] <Ben64> 720p > 1080i
[8:52] <ParkerR_> Well half black and half actual frame
[8:52] <Hoerie> pal afficionados don't consider ntsc to be 'tv' either
[8:52] <Tachyon`> heh, never twice the same colour
[8:52] <Ben64> hope they enjoy their sped up movies
[8:52] <Hoerie> 2160p is UHDTV
[8:52] <Tachyon`> it's not really black, it's just nothing, lol
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[8:53] <Tachyon`> it's not drawn
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[8:53] <Tachyon`> I have an NTSC here for import consoles
[8:53] <Tachyon`> it has a tint control
[8:53] <Tachyon`> enough said.
[8:53] <Coburn> Also, why do we have PAL and NTSC bullshit?
[8:53] <Coburn> Isn't the days of that over?
[8:53] <Hoerie> <Tachyon`> it's not really black, it's just nothing, lol <-- as black is the absence of light, that is actually good
[8:53] <Ben64> because
[8:53] <Tachyon`> because the americans have never met a standard they didn't hate
[8:54] <ParkerR_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-JXfyvlPh0
[8:54] <Ben64> color tv messed up ntsc
[8:54] <dr_willis> actually isent the electricty also differnt rates? ;)
[8:54] <Hoerie> and because of the french
[8:54] <Tachyon`> yeah, 50/60Hz
[8:54] <SpeedEvil> Coburn: the standards were developed as broadcast standards
[8:54] <Ben64> used to be a nice framerate
[8:54] <ParkerR_> Hmm I remember there being a better version of that video
[8:54] <Ben64> then color changed it to 29.97
[8:54] <Hoerie> who wanted to protect local production and came up with secam
[8:54] <Ben64> retarded
[8:54] <SpeedEvil> Coburn: and colour messed up a nice simple standard
[8:54] <Coburn> PAL games run slower than NTSC ones
[8:54] <Tachyon`> only if badly coded
[8:54] <ParkerR_> There it is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Avvh0iH2xSg
[8:54] <Coburn> Well, 16bit consoles then
[8:54] <dr_willis> Color TV killed the Mr. Ed show! :)
[8:54] <Hoerie> ntsc generally has a higher refresh rate
[8:55] <Tachyon`> I remember on megadrive taht was soemtimes an issue
[8:55] <Coburn> SNES
[8:55] <Tachyon`> yes, and less lines so less to refresh
[8:55] <Tachyon`> that too
[8:55] <Coburn> If you ran a PAL game in a NTSC console
[8:55] <Coburn> It ran 33% Faster
[8:55] <Tachyon`> 33% my arse
[8:55] <Coburn> but messes up stuff that uses a RTC
[8:55] <chithead> generally the refresh rates are aligned to ac frequency
[8:55] <Hoerie> due to electric mains being 60hz in the us
[8:56] <Tachyon`> 20% faster
[8:56] <Coburn> Same over here, it's 60Hz
[8:56] <Coburn> Australia
[8:56] <Coburn> I think
[8:56] <dr_willis> 20% cooler!
[8:56] <Hoerie> 50hz here
[8:56] <Coburn> or maybe 50Hz?
[8:56] <Coburn> Not sure
[8:56] <Ben64> 19.88% faster
[8:56] <Hoerie> australia is 50
[8:56] <Tachyon`> I think .au is PAL/50Hz
[8:56] <Ben64> learn to math :P
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[8:56] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah au is 50
[8:56] <Coburn> Meh. I just force everything to 60Hz
[8:56] <Coburn> Did that on my Nintendo Wii
[8:56] <Tachyon`> where did the other .12% go
[8:56] <Coburn> used a hack to be perma-60Hz
[8:57] <Coburn> Force TV standard: PAL 60Hz
[8:57] <Ben64> well now theres the wiiu
[8:57] <Coburn> Yeah, it uses HDMI
[8:57] <Ben64> hdmi solves the problem
[8:57] <Tachyon`> and I think an error of .12% is better than an error of 13% anyway, didn't notice you sniping at Coburn for being way off so stfu
[8:57] <Hoerie> you notice it in cameras that have filters for dealing with fluorescent lighting too, those are set to 50 or 60 hz
[8:57] <Coburn> I was sniped?
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[8:57] <Ben64> boom, headshot
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[8:58] <Hoerie> <+Coburn> Force TV standard: PAL 60Hz <-- that will never happen; noone wants to try and force people to buy new equipment
[8:58] <Ben64> hdtvs are new equipment
[8:58] <Ben64> most are smart enough to play any framerate
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[8:59] <Hoerie> it's more about recording equipment that costs a bit more than a consumer tv
[8:59] * ParkerR_ looks at his weird 1024x1024 16:9 TV
[8:59] <Hoerie> we only got hd transmissions here after they'd converted all the studio equipment
[8:59] <Coburn> Hoerie: Already done on a Wii
[8:59] <Coburn> I wasn't saying it must be a standard
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[8:59] <Coburn> I meant that's what I tell my Wii GPU to do
[9:00] <Hoerie> I know you can force some equipment, but it will never be a standard
[9:00] <Coburn> 50Hz is crap quality compared to 60Hz
[9:00] <Coburn> Sharper and stuff
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[9:00] <Ben64> i hope 48fps catches on for movies
[9:01] <Hoerie> <+Coburn> 50Hz is crap quality compared to 60Hz <-- yes and gold audio cables are lots better than normal ones too
[9:02] <Coburn> Well, duh
[9:02] <Tachyon`> a lot of stuff does actually support pal-60
[9:02] <Tachyon`> most notably the xbox 360 which nags you to turn it on
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[9:03] <Coburn> Anyway, when I get home from family visiting, I'm going to set up a R-Pi as a WiFi ap
[9:03] <Hoerie> that's due to most games working at 30hz (or 60 for some racing games)
[9:03] <Coburn> Question, though
[9:03] <Coburn> how much do dongles take up?
[9:03] <Coburn> 3G modem dongles*
[9:04] <SpeedEvil> at least 500ma
[9:04] <SpeedEvil> some want more
[9:04] <ParkerR_> Hard to believe a machine with 64mb of RAM can do so much http://i6.minus.com/iwj4XPZlN9Jxy.png
[9:04] <Hoerie> anyhow, time for xmas cooking :-) - merry christmas everyone
[9:04] <SpeedEvil> have fun
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[9:11] <ParkerR_> (That machine being an original Xbox)
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[9:15] <Coburn> ParkerR_: Isn't the original Xbox memory upgradable?
[9:16] <Coburn> Also, is that a hack?
[9:16] <ParkerR_> Coburn, Possibly and that's XBMC
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[9:17] <Coburn> what
[9:17] <Coburn> that's XBMC?!
[9:17] <Coburn> I thought it was a hacked dashboard OS
[9:19] <ParkerR_> Coburn, XBMC with the jx720 skin
[9:19] <Coburn> I'll be damned
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[9:20] <ParkerR_> Coburn, And if you are wondering why that screenshot loaded from the bottom up it is because it's really a bmp but I just changed the extension. bmp stores the bottom lines first in the actual file
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[9:32] <Nunnsy> Hey guys, quick question, just got my new Pi today and was wondering if this is the correct way to install Java? http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/articles/java/raspberrypi-1704896.html I'm just not sure using the SD card as swap ram is correct...
[9:33] <ShiftPlusOne> Nunnsy: don't worry about swap. Swapiness is turned all the way down to 1, so it won't kick in until you're almost out of ram
[9:33] <ShiftPlusOne> it's a way to prevent locking it up completely when you're out of ram.... and since you're running java, you'll probably want that there =p
[9:34] <ParkerR_> Nunnsy, You could also just do sudo apt-get install openjdk-jre-7 on the Pi
[9:34] <ParkerR_> May be openjdk-7-jre
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[9:34] <ShiftPlusOne> Will that get the correct pi optimized version?
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[9:35] <ParkerR_> I didn't know there were optimizations
[9:36] <Nunnsy> oh wow, thanks guys, appreciate this a lot.. been searching for the answer for quite a while
[9:36] <Nunnsy> so the openjdk should do it?
[9:37] <Nunnsy> I remember that's what I used on a server I used to have but I was just wondering if, as ShiftPlusOne said, there's an optimised or special version...
[9:37] <ParkerR_> I runs fine on mine
[9:37] <ParkerR_> Used it to compile a few little programs and also it "barely" ran a minecraft server
[9:38] <gordonDrogon> Ho Ho ho, etc.
[9:38] <Nunnsy> Ahh, I see...
[9:38] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't know if it is properly optimized or how much I would be allowed to say if I knew, but I would stick with the oracle version.
[9:38] <Nunnsy> I was just going to use it as a PS3 media renderer, others have but they didn't specify which Java they used
[9:39] <Nunnsy> Is there an apt-get repo for the oracle build?
[9:39] <ParkerR_> Naah you need to do what it says for that
[9:39] <ShiftPlusOne> but, for the sake of full disclosure, I avoid java wherever I can, so I am pretty ignorant on the subject of what's best to use. Maybe the repo openjdk jre is the way to go.
[9:40] <Nunnsy> I think so for now.
[9:41] <Nunnsy> Thanks for all the help :D
[9:41] <ShiftPlusOne> Reading the article... looks like it's still the softfloat version... so maybe openjdk is the way to go untill there's a proper pi version
[9:42] <ShiftPlusOne> *until
[9:44] <Nunnsy> Awesome, again, thank you. A lot. And Merry Christmas :)
[9:46] <ParkerR_> Coburn, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04ngqA63Tac
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[9:50] <artag> aiui, the oracle version is so much faster that it's worth using even in the soft-float version. openjdk is hf but you still lose out.
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[9:57] <Hoerie> <Nunnsy> I was just going to use it as a PS3 media renderer, others have but they didn't specify which Java they used <-- it would surprise me if you got adequate performance out of it
[9:58] * ShiftPlusOne isn't sure what a PS3 media renderer is O_o
[9:58] <Hoerie> I take it he meant running ps3 media server on it
[9:59] <ShiftPlusOne> ah
[9:59] <Hoerie> that's a dlna server/transcoder/remuxer
[9:59] <Hoerie> but I could be jumping to conclusions here ;-)
[9:59] <ShiftPlusOne> sort of a backend or something?
[9:59] <Hoerie> it converts whatever video to something a ps3 can handle
[9:59] <ShiftPlusOne> ah right
[10:00] <Hoerie> obviously transcoding will be hard on a pi
[10:00] <ShiftPlusOne> if it's done through openmax maybe not
[10:00] <ShiftPlusOne> which I guess it isn't
[10:02] <ShiftPlusOne> along the lines of http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=70&t=25022
[10:04] <Hoerie> I guess if both source and destination were hardware encode/decode-able you might got sort of mediocre performance
[10:05] <Hoerie> I guess you would need to chain two pi's together
[10:05] <Hoerie> one to decode and one to encode
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[10:08] <Hoerie> so doing it realtime on one pi seems possible (for restricted res and bitrate), interesting
[10:08] <Hoerie> anyway, back to making apple and pear crumbles before the wife complains ;-)
[10:08] <mrmoney2012> yes - watch out for that.
[10:09] <mrmoney2012> how do i do cp -r (but tell it to ignore files already there)
[10:09] <markedathome> rsync?
[10:09] <mrmoney2012> basically i did a massive cp -r and it failed half way through so i want to do it again ...
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[10:10] <TAFB> woot! fluid dynamic updating working! got everything working cept the damn chart ;) http://tafb.yi.org/
[10:11] <ShiftPlusOne> mrmoney2012: rsync all the way
[10:11] <mrmoney2012> ok interested??? i want to one off get everything from here /mnt/synology-nas/movies to here??? /mnt/external_1TB_USB_hard_disk/movies (it's about 50% done already with cp, not sure why state it failed in but seems ok - i can ls it)
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[10:12] <mrmoney2012> so simply rsync source destination ? (any special flags)
[10:12] <ShiftPlusOne> -av
[10:12] <markedathome> Assuming that USB pen or external USB hard disk is mounted at /mnt/usbpen, enter the following command to backup (sync) new files and changes to existing files but don't remove files in backup directory:
[10:12] <markedathome> $ rsync -au /home/tom /mnt/usbpen
[10:12] <ShiftPlusOne> it also draws distinction between somedir and somedir/
[10:12] <mrmoney2012> au ? av ?
[10:13] <Launch_Director> so what is a good torrent client
[10:13] <ShiftPlusOne> Launch_Director: depends on your needs
[10:13] <Launch_Director> to connect to many peers and download..
[10:13] <ShiftPlusOne> transmission, rtorrent and deluge are the ones I tend to use, depending on the purpose
[10:13] <ShiftPlusOne> Launch_Director: then any
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[10:14] <markedathome> mrmoney2012: -a --archive archive mode -u --update update (don't overwrite newer files) -v --verbose verbosity
[10:14] <ShiftPlusOne> --progress is not a bad option too
[10:15] <ShiftPlusOne> you can also use it over ssh, which is great.
[10:15] <Launch_Director> is there anything that can store a temporary cache until another machine turns on so it can send over lan the downloaded files
[10:15] <Launch_Director> automaically*
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[10:16] <Launch_Director> +t
[10:17] <ShiftPlusOne> Well, you got there eventually. Not that I know of. I'd write a script that would run every 10 minutes to check and move.
[10:17] <mrmoney2012> ?? ]']
[10:17] <mrmoney2012> '
[10:18] <Launch_Director> hmm sickbeard i think could do this
[10:18] <markedathome> a script to poll for an arp/ping of ip address then either sleep or if present, rsync/wget/ smbcopy the files to the destination or copy make local torrents and passover the torrent file to a standard dir
[10:18] <Launch_Director> didn't find it on aptitude
[10:18] <mrmoney2012> sorry about that - 18 month old daughter just took the controls momentarily ! <eek>
[10:19] <ShiftPlusOne> well, maybe not sleep.. a cronjob would make more sense than a script that just sleeps.
[10:20] <mrmoney2012> i should say this is a one off job??? that's why i thought of cp
[10:20] <mrmoney2012> however the cp takes 10 hours and fails??? i think rsync sounds beter.
[10:20] <Launch_Director> ...what
[10:20] <mrmoney2012> better
[10:20] <Launch_Director> wtf are we talking about
[10:20] <ShiftPlusOne> Launch_Director: what to which part?
[10:21] <Launch_Director> oh tired... you meant copy
[10:21] <markedathome> two different convos, one Launch_Dir, one mrmoney both with similar subjects
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[10:22] <ShiftPlusOne> ah
[10:22] <markedathome> and agreed run from crontab for polling for presence of other host.
[10:22] <Launch_Director> well if anyone finishes the script please pm me
[10:23] <Launch_Director> thing is. I'd have to do this with FTP or something because i would be sending it over to a windows machine
[10:23] <mrmoney2012> don't see why i need the -a (archive switch)
[10:23] <Launch_Director> i'm sure there is an ftp module in python
[10:24] <ShiftPlusOne> Launch_Director: you'd be very lucky if anyone wrote the script for you.
[10:24] <markedathome> Launch_Director: you can use samba, with smbcopy
[10:24] <mrmoney2012> -ut maybe
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[10:25] <Launch_Director> never used samba.. don't even know what it does
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[10:27] <Launch_Director> ShiftPlusOne: i meant if anyone wrote the script for themselve then they could share
[10:27] <markedathome> Launch_Director: along these lines? --> http://www.glenscott.net/2008/05/10/simple-quick-and-dirty-linux-to-smb-copy-backup-script-using-smbfs/
[10:28] <markedathome> samba is a group of utils used to access windows network shares
[10:28] <Launch_Director> thanks that guide looks handy
[10:28] <ShiftPlusOne> ah
[10:28] <markedathome> obviously remove the tar and use a straight copy rather than move.
[10:30] <markedathome> also security applies - password will be in clear in the script
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[10:31] <ShiftPlusOne> so 777 it and store it on the network =p (don't)
[10:32] <mrmoney2012> thanks all - i went with ??? screen -L rsync -rut --progress /mnt/synology-nas/movies /mnt/external_1TB_USB_hard_disk/
[10:32] <mrmoney2012> seems to me rsync is rather handy 1
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[10:32] <ShiftPlusOne> good call using screen there
[10:32] <mrmoney2012> :-)??? v handy when headless
[10:39] <Aranel> TAFB: your new auto-refresh thing is awesome
[10:39] <troulouliou_dev> anybody tried the raspi bit simpink cec implmentation from lg tv ?
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[10:40] <Launch_Director> how much video ram do i need to play videos
[10:41] <Launch_Director> because atm i think it's at 64 and i couldn't play a clip
[10:41] <axion> 128 for xbmc and most videos
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[10:42] <TAFB> Aranel: thanks man! I spent a lot of time on it, couldn't get NOTHING working, then posted on stackoverflow.com and someone coded it for me in 30 seconds for free :) lol.
[10:43] <Launch_Director> is there a keyboard shortcut while booting to get into the config menu?
[10:43] <Aranel> TAFB: would like to see that, link? :)
[10:43] <TAFB> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14028480/jquery-load-values-from-external-html-and-populate-many-local-div-fields-wit
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[10:49] <TAFB> using jquery to do fluid live stuff on your page is STUPID easy :) just make sure at the start of your page you put this at the start: <script class="jsbin" src="http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1.4.2/jquery.min.js"></script>
[10:49] <TAFB> nothing else inside that first script!
[10:49] <TAFB> works sweet after that :) you can use just regular "<script language="JavaScript">" after that :)
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[10:53] <Aranel> TAFB: I'm making my own dashboard, will certainly add the same feature :)
[10:53] <Aranel> It puts every static page in a shame
[10:53] <TAFB> Aranel: good stuff :) you need any help with it lemme know. Gonna use PHP?
[10:54] <Aranel> sure, I'm no better on alternatives, unfortunately
[10:55] <TAFB> yeah, me neither. I've used php for quite a while, even though I suck at it. I found it very powerful to this status page, even if it is resource intensive. My super secret page caching technology makes it run super fast and flawless though :)
[10:55] <Aranel> that technology is.. your ssd? :D
[10:56] <TAFB> notice how fast that status page loads when you first go to it? On the Pi it normally took 3 seconds to generate, on this seagate box it can do it 0.8 seconds, but when a view goes to the page this seagate box loads it in 0.0013 seconds :)
[10:56] <TAFB> nope, if you look at my CPU hogs in my status, you'll see some funny things like wget and mv, etc.
[10:56] <TAFB> I've built a script that pre-caches the actual dynamic PHP page and converts it into a static HTML to feed to the visitor.
[10:56] <Aranel> lol noticed, sshd root@, nano.. :)
[10:57] <TAFB> it allows you to feed HUNDREDS of simultanious visitors with almost no extra load on the system :)
[10:57] <Aranel> hmm so instead of getting the same output for hundred visitors, you generate it every x seconds
[10:57] <Aranel> and serve to all of them
[10:58] <TAFB> yep, it regenerates it every 0.8 seconds and delays the page the viewer is viewing by 1 second to make sure they always get a complete and not half written page :)
[10:58] <Aranel> wow that's nice
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[10:58] <Aranel> *do want* :)
[10:58] <TAFB> to it regenerates it for 1 user, and can re-share it to 100's without regenerating it again :)
[10:59] <TAFB> I can't wait to try it on super PHP hogs like Wordpress, etc. I'll probably have the fastest wordpress site on earth ;)
[10:59] <TAFB> Aranel: you running wheezy?
[11:00] <Aranel> gotta go, bundle it with a rpi, if you make it most likely they'll write your name to somewhere =)
[11:00] <Aranel> on a mountain perhaps
[11:00] <TAFB> lol
[11:00] <TAFB> :)
[11:00] <TAFB> alright, ttyl. talk to you again
[11:00] <TAFB> 5am here, I better get some sleep before santa shows up
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[11:37] * gordonDrogon waves and says: "Ho ho ho" :)
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[11:49] * ShiftPlusOne has just discovered the watch command.... no more while true; do something; sleep 1000; done;
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[11:51] <gordonDrogon> :)
[11:52] <gordonDrogon> when I was playing with overclocking, I was using this:
[11:52] <gordonDrogon> watch -n1 'uptime ; /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp ; /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_volts ; /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_clock arm ; /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_clock core'
[11:52] <gordonDrogon> but watch is very handy.
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[11:53] <ShiftPlusOne> Recently found out about ! as a way to run last command starting with something, which came in very handy as well.
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[11:53] <ShiftPlusOne> Interesting how you can use linux for so long and keep discovering little shortcuts all the time.
[11:53] * BurtyB is a fan of ^R :)
[11:54] <gordonDrogon> the trouble with being old is ...
[11:54] <ShiftPlusOne> ^R? O_o
[11:54] <gordonDrogon> !! is normally repeat last command.
[11:54] <gordonDrogon> if you type 'history' then you can !42 to run command 42 ...
[11:54] <BurtyB> shadeslayer, reverse search
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[11:55] <gordonDrogon> I used csh from about 1990 onwards - mostly use tsch now.
[11:55] <shadeslayer> whut?
[11:55] <gordonDrogon> history | fgrep command, then get the number and !number
[11:55] <ShiftPlusOne> shadeslayer: nick completion fail =)
[11:56] <shadeslayer> :)
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[11:59] <ShiftPlusOne> wth was I trying to do there "42 sudo su mount"
[12:00] <ShiftPlusOne> Ah... that was when I was experimenting with '!' and didn't have the hang of it yet.
[12:01] <gordonDrogon> another (t)csh thing is substitution: ^foo^bar - substitures foo for bar in the last command - not sure what the bash equivalent is
[12:02] <gordonDrogon> those are more relevant in the old days of slow teletypes and 'glass teletypes' though.
[12:02] <gordonDrogon> these days, just hit the up arrow and edit in-place...
[12:02] <ShiftPlusOne> tcsh sounds pretty good
[12:02] <gordonDrogon> it's ... ok.
[12:03] <gordonDrogon> trouble it, you get used to something... then when people migrate to bourne sh (sh, bash, dash, etc.) then it's hard to un-do 20 years of doing it another way..
[12:03] <gordonDrogon> I don't think any Linux distro installed tcsh by default now.
[12:03] <ShiftPlusOne> oops, I misread. I thought by "c shell" it meant that it used a c syntax. >.>
[12:04] <gordonDrogon> it does - for scripting.
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[12:04] <ShiftPlusOne> Not quite, but they look more readable than bash scripts though.
[12:05] <gordonDrogon> however I'd not suggest adopting it now. you'll find many rants about it online - which should be taken with a pinch of salt, however some of them are valid.
[12:05] <gordonDrogon> the usual one is IO redirection - my argument is that possibly you shouldn't be writing an application in a shell if it needs something that complex, but hey ...
[12:06] <ShiftPlusOne> I am not good at adapting anyway. Have been trying to get used to emacs for a while and it just doesn't feel right =(
[12:06] <ShiftPlusOne> Think I'll give vi a go and see if it feels more... right.
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[12:09] <gordonDrogon> Oh yes :)
[12:09] <gordonDrogon> but then I've been using vi, or someting like it for the past umpty years too..
[12:11] <gordonDrogon> oddly enough I had to port emacs to a new platform round about 1990 too, however to do that I needed an editor on that platform, so I ported a version of vi first...
[12:11] <ShiftPlusOne> lol
[12:12] <ShiftPlusOne> What editor did you use to port vi then O_o
[12:12] <gordonDrogon> vi
[12:12] <gordonDrogon> I had a Sun workstation and I was already using vi.
[12:12] <ShiftPlusOne> hmm
[12:13] <gordonDrogon> there was a free version of something called steve - ST Editor for VI enthusiats - ran on an Atari ST.
[12:13] <gordonDrogon> I ported that to the new platform.
[12:13] <gordonDrogon> this was a transputer based *nix type thing.
[12:13] <gordonDrogon> actually we ported minix to the transputer...
[12:13] <ShiftPlusOne> Is there a benefit in getting to know vi instead of just using graphical editors like geany nowadays?
[12:14] <gordonDrogon> vi works over ssh.
[12:14] <gordonDrogon> so I can edit files on remote servers... and Pi's with no screen/keyboard connected.
[12:14] <ShiftPlusOne> so you still use it on a regular basis?
[12:15] <gordonDrogon> vi? daily.
[12:15] <gordonDrogon> hourly, minutely... all the time.
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[12:15] <ShiftPlusOne> hmm, I'll look into it and see if it works for me. Thanks
[12:15] <gordonDrogon> I write everything in vi.
[12:16] <gordonDrogon> so 20K lines of my BASIC C source code - all written with vi. (vim actually, but it's more or less the same these days)
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[12:17] <gordonDrogon> a lot will depend on how you like to work. Emacs has the 'always insert what you type' mode, while vi is modal - you're in insert mode, or command mode. in Emacs you type control-key sequences to run commands, in vi you switch modes.
[12:18] <gordonDrogon> have you used nano?
[12:18] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah 'course
[12:18] <gordonDrogon> emacs is like a souped up nano.
[12:18] <ShiftPlusOne> That's what I get by with when I need to quickly edit something over ssh
[12:19] <ShiftPlusOne> But I can't imagine coding in it. D=
[12:19] <gordonDrogon> and a lot of things use nano-like features - control-A, E for start, end of line..
[12:19] <gordonDrogon> open a terminal and type 'vi' now ..
[12:20] <ShiftPlusOne> already have it open
[12:20] <gordonDrogon> I'll talk you through a quick edit..
[12:20] <gordonDrogon> type 'i' to get into insert mode..
[12:20] <ShiftPlusOne> yup
[12:20] <gordonDrogon> then just type: main () { printf ("Hello, world\n") ; }
[12:20] <gordonDrogon> then press the ESC key.
[12:21] <ShiftPlusOne> done
[12:21] <gordonDrogon> Now, :w hello.c
[12:21] <ShiftPlusOne> yup
[12:21] <gordonDrogon> Control-Z
[12:21] <gordonDrogon> that ought to take you back to the shell.
[12:21] <ShiftPlusOne> painless so far
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> cc -o hello hello.c
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[12:22] <gordonDrogon> ignore the warning :)
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> ./hello
[12:22] <artag> vi is worth learning at least minimally, because it's pretty well always available. If you have an unknown linux system that's not got emacs, you need something that works
[12:22] <ShiftPlusOne> is there a compile and run sort of feature built in?
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[12:22] <gordonDrogon> not that I'm aware of.
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[12:22] <gordonDrogon> I write makefiles - but they're not everyones cup of tea.
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[12:23] <mumbles> woop
[12:23] <artag> and I'm very, very offended by the idea that emacs is a souped up nano :)
[12:23] <ShiftPlusOne> I try to use autotools where I can to keep things standard.
[12:23] <gordonDrogon> 'fg' will get you back into the editor again.
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[12:23] <mumbles> got a coballer from my brother
[12:23] <gordonDrogon> artag, well.... :)
[12:23] <ShiftPlusOne> artag: lol, I had a feeling that there would be at least a few people that wouldn't take kindly to that comparison.
[12:24] <mumbles> uh oh . xmas nano / vi/ emacs argument
[12:24] <gordonDrogon> the quickest way out of vi is ZZ - that's type capital Z twice.
[12:24] <artag> not just as an emacs fan, but because nano seems to use a comand key set that's incompatible with everything else, emacs included. I hate it with passion.
[12:24] <gordonDrogon> mumbles, no argument from me. I use vi :)
[12:25] <gordonDrogon> atouk, this is true, but the concept is similar - always in insert mode, type control/meta keys to do more actions.
[12:25] <artag> vi is fine, I accept I don't know how to get the best out of it (especially vim) and that it's probably as capable as emacs if I did. but nano is just annoying.
[12:26] <ShiftPlusOne> surely nano is only annoying if you've been using something else for a long time
[12:26] <artag> possibly. it's pretty hard to judge that objectively.
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> I use pine/alpin for my email - it has 'pico' which nano is a free clone of, so I'm sort of used to using it too.
[12:27] <gordonDrogon> been using it for about 20 years, so hard to change...
[12:30] <artag> i've reluctantly had to go to a gui emailer because a purely text one is just too painful in today's email world. though I set it to display in plain-text unless I'm really stuck. But I liked msh best in the past. it was so very unixy.
[12:30] <artag> eh, mh. not msh.
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[12:34] <gordonDrogon> mutt?
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[12:35] <gordonDrogon> alpine is OK. screen orientated - lets me use vi to edit, very standards compliant and renders html, sort of OK...
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[12:35] <gordonDrogon> what I need to do is move to imap - currently I'm reading email directly on the server - so my email strategy is to ssh to the server from wherever I am and run alpine directly...
[12:35] <artag> think i looked at mutt. but mh is a whole bunch of shell commands rather than a single application, so you get all the advantages of the shell in the mailer.
[12:36] <gordonDrogon> oh, mh. yes. that's very old now.
[12:36] <gordonDrogon> alpine was a re-write of pine a few years ago - still being developed.
[12:36] <artag> it had extensions for attachments and stuff but they were hard work. it got too painful.
[12:37] <gordonDrogon> last time I tried to move to imap, it just croaked - I have too much email...
[12:38] <artag> i tried pine too, but it was all make-a-gui-with-curses. a bit like using a dos application circa 1985
[12:39] <gordonDrogon> :)
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[12:39] <gordonDrogon> right. need to get ready to go out & see in-laws!
[12:39] <gordonDrogon> Yesterday party table: http://unicorn.drogon.net/feast.jpg
[12:39] <gordonDrogon> :)
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[12:40] <robin_sz> so, I selected the "openbox" gdm, and now all I have is a screen of black ... a black so black that electrons become sucked into it
[12:40] <robin_sz> when I reboot, it now automatically chooses the same gdm
[12:40] <robin_sz> is there a cli to reset the default gdm?
[12:41] <robin_sz> its raspbian, btw
[12:41] <gordonDrogon> can you ssh in?
[12:41] <robin_sz> I have a term
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[12:45] <robin_sz> so no clues?
[12:45] <OpenSys> gordonDrogon, good table :)
[12:46] <mueslee> heya
[12:46] <robin_sz> looks a bit meaty up at the far end, but this end does look delicious
[12:46] <mueslee> is there any way i can setup raspbian *WHEN THERE'S NO BLOODY USB KEYBOARD IN THE WHOLE HOUSE*? :)
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[12:47] <ShiftPlusOne> mueslee: absolutely, that's why ssh is enabled by default.
[12:47] <mueslee> yay
[12:47] <mueslee> so 1) find out ip and login, 2) find out how the default tool is called
[12:47] <mueslee> *config tool
[12:47] <mueslee> thx
[12:47] <ShiftPlusOne> the default hostname is raspberrypi
[12:48] <ShiftPlusOne> the config tool is raspi-config
[12:48] <ShiftPlusOne> (run as root)
[12:49] * robin_sz wonders why raspbian ships with a non-working openbox in the firstplace
[12:49] <mueslee> ShiftPlusOne: login as: pi
[12:49] <mueslee> pi@'s password:
[12:49] <mueslee> i'm saved
[12:49] <mueslee> thx :)
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[12:50] <ShiftPlusOne> np
[12:53] <robin_sz> ahh, dpkg-reconfigure lightdm did it
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[12:56] <bs123> merry pi xmas
[13:03] <mueslee> ShiftPlusOne: there's no virtual keyboard i could install? :)
[13:03] <ShiftPlusOne> Not sure what you mean by virtual keyboard
[13:04] <mueslee> i *could* operate the xserver.. at least i have a mouse
[13:04] <artag> synergy
[13:04] <mueslee> but when i use the browser for example.. something to press RETURN would be pretty helpful :)
[13:04] <ShiftPlusOne> synergy works very well if that's the sort of thing you're after, yeah.
[13:04] <mueslee> i'll check
[13:04] <mueslee> thx
[13:05] <artag> it's probably not what you were thinking of but will be a much better solution than a mouse-driven keyboard
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[13:09] <mueslee> ah. got the concept. looks neat. thx again :)
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[14:04] <megaproxy> Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays all!
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[14:06] <InControl> hic!
[14:08] <biberao> hi
[14:08] <biberao> is lexar good for raspberry pi?
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[14:10] <biberao> like 16euros for a 32gb microsd card
[14:11] <blahee> for that prize it must be class4. Probably just fine, but slow as hell
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[14:41] <Kane> champignon o/
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[14:50] <Anickyan> Hello.
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[14:51] <Anickyan> I have a question: How can I access the files that I have on my Raspberry Pi? When I look at the SD card, I only see the files that the Win32DiskImager created when putting the Rasbian Wheezy on there.
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[14:54] <ShiftPlusOne> Anickyan: http://www.ext2fsd.com/ works well for me, but I think you're better off using winscp to read the files from a running pi over the network.
[14:54] <markedathome> Anickyan: > google "windows ext2 ext3 disk reader" if I understand correctly that you want to read/write ext2/ext3 partition
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[15:07] <Anickyan> Hey again.
[15:08] <Anickyan> When I boot up my Pi, it says "raspberrypi login: ". I then type "pi", and it says "Login incorrect".
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[15:08] <InControl> it should ask for a password
[15:09] <InControl> that is raspberry
[15:09] <Anickyan> I know. It worked before.
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[15:21] <sheldor> hi i just have a little question, is it normal that the automatic partition expansion via the boot script takes ages and doesnt show any progress at all?
[15:22] <sheldor> it only says "Performing an on-line resize of /dev/mmcblk0p2 to 760852 (4k) blocks" and shows a blinking cursor
[15:22] <sheldor> (for raspbian)
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[15:35] <ShiftPlusOne> yes
[15:36] <sheldor> oh it just finished!
[15:36] <sheldor> excellent
[15:36] <sheldor> thanks
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[15:41] <sheldor> ShiftPlusOne: is there a way to start the first-boot config tool from the command line?
[15:41] <ShiftPlusOne> yup 'sudo raspi-config'
[15:43] <sheldor> thx!
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[15:45] <ShiftPlusOne> np
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[16:17] <markit> hi, I see around some "nbench" results with rb, but can't find that program installed (at least from console). Not apt-cache searcn nbench shows it, how can I install it?
[16:19] <mythos> markit, http://www.tux.org/~mayer/linux/bmark.html
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[16:20] <markit> mythos: thanks!
[16:21] <markit> mmm so needs to be compiled first, lol
[16:21] <markit> would be great if raspbian would include, if is Free(dom) software
[16:21] <markit> I'm going to try the overclock
[16:22] <markit> btw, do I remember wrong, or at boot time, if you plug the headphones in the jack, you should hear the IP spelled?
[16:23] <mythos> that would be... erm... weird
[16:24] <markit> ? I find it with nmap but ...
[16:24] <mythos> the ip?
[16:25] <mythos> there are two ways. 1) add a monitor and look it up or 2) watch your dhcpd what ip your ip gets
[16:25] <mythos> *your pi
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[16:31] <ShiftPlusOne> given that the default hostname is raspberrypi, getting the ip should be trivial.
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[16:33] <mythos> ShiftPlusOne, you mean with a feature like dyn-dns?
[16:33] <ShiftPlusOne> just "ping raspberrypi" from any computer on the network should show it.
[16:34] <mythos> there is no avah running and we are not in a win world with netbui
[16:35] <mythos> so if the dhcpd is not updating the dns, the dns-server is unable to look up the name
[16:35] <ShiftPlusOne> fair enough
[16:36] <ShiftPlusOne> well then... sleep time. 'night and good luck
[16:36] <mythos> good night o/
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[16:41] <Hopsy> is it possible to get a timestamp in front of my name (in the terminal)
[16:42] <Hopsy> like: [16:41] pi@raspberrypi $
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[16:43] <troulouliou_dev> Hopsy, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/howto-linux-unix-bash-shell-setup-prompt.html
[16:43] <troulouliou_dev> \D{format}
[16:43] <Hopsy> nice
[16:45] <troulouliou_dev> any idea how much time is needed actually for a delivery of raspbi in Belgium ?
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[16:46] <Hopsy> I think 1 week
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[16:47] <TAFB> status page spam: now featuring fluid automatic dynamic updating! http://tafb.yi.org (woot) :)
[16:48] <troulouliou_dev> Hopsy, ok
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[16:52] <UnaClocker> TAFB: Man, that thing is heavily loaded.. heh
[16:53] <TAFB> rofl :) look at the free ram (for only having 128), and the cpu doesn't break a sweat even when I load test it :) woot
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[16:53] <UnaClocker> hehe, yup..
[16:54] <Hopsy> TomWij: are you there?
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[16:54] <rymate1234> GPU Mem Split : No GPU has been detected
[16:54] <rymate1234> lol
[16:54] <TAFB> that's my favourite part!
[16:54] <TAFB> no gpu eatin up ram I ain't usin
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[16:54] <Hopsy> TomWij: you asked me couple days ago to test wakeonlan
[16:55] <rymate1234> wait wat
[16:55] <rymate1234> TAFB, surely it should have a gpu
[16:55] <TAFB> i think I worded that bad... no gpu I ain't usin eating up ram I should be usin :)
[16:55] <sheldor> do you know how i can show current network activity/load on the command line?
[16:55] <sheldor> on raspbian
[16:55] <rymate1234> ah
[16:56] <TAFB> rymate1234: no idea, I don't believe it does, I think it only displays by serial/terminal?
[16:56] <sheldor> oh i think iftop would work
[16:56] <rymate1234> hmm
[16:56] <rymate1234> nvm
[16:56] <rymate1234> >Seagate GoFlex Home Status Page
[16:56] <rymate1234> thought it was a Pi
[16:57] <TAFB> rymate1234: lol. :) It used to be a Pi :)
[16:57] <rymate1234> ah
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[16:59] <TAFB> I just couldn't take the poor i/o performance of the Pi. I was using it as a server and it just wasn't up to the task :) Even with SSD drive, very slow transfers. I had a few of those seagate base units kicking around, new in box never used, so tried to set it up with my dad's new WD 2TB drive he got for christmas.
[16:59] <TAFB> It was being super dumb, and in googling how to tweak it, found out you could root it and install Arch Linux :)
[17:00] <TAFB> the performance is mind blowing :)
[17:00] <rymate1234> ah
[17:02] <UnaClocker> hehe, I told you so. ;)
[17:02] <TAFB> UnaClocker: you sure did :)
[17:02] <TAFB> as soon as I forwarded the ports and it got put under some load, it just crumbled :)
[17:02] <UnaClocker> Needless to say, after having used my SheevaPlug for 2+ years, I expected more out of the Pi when I got it.
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[17:03] <UnaClocker> Yeah, I've had a lot of issue with the USB hub/network adapter in the Pi overheating and crashing under even a fast download.
[17:03] <TAFB> UnaClocker: Yeah. I can't believe how much faster the CPU in my seagate box is. And the i/o performance, but with dedicated SATA2 and USB2 and Gigabit LAN chips, I guess so :)
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[17:05] <UnaClocker> Yeah, the CPU's were just built with different tasks in mind.. The Pi's CPU was meant to be a media player, near as I can tell. The plug's CPU seems to be someone's experiment in making a server out of an ARM.
[17:05] <TAFB> UnaClocker: I was going to go boxing day shopping tomorrow and look for something with USB3 and SATA3 that I can put arch linux on :)
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[17:06] <UnaClocker> :) Check out the PogoPlug.. They're still making those and coming out with new versions.. It's SheevaPlug based as well..
[17:06] <UnaClocker> Not sure if they've gotten to USB3 yet, probably not though.
[17:06] <TAFB> I would like to take a retail product and use it for something it's not meant for, not buy a product and use it like it's intended ;)
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[17:07] <UnaClocker> Yup yup. The PogoPlug has some software on it that makes it your own personal dropbox type device..
[17:07] <Hodapp> ...until you put real Linux on it and go about your day >:)
[17:08] <TAFB> ohhh, fancy :)
[17:08] <sheldor> do you know any good rom collection for the retropie?
[17:08] <TAFB> the seagate had a drop bog thing too. after it uPnP screwed my router so none of my servers worked, ROOT FOR YOU!
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[17:08] <UnaClocker> sheldor: Usually find them with a quick google search..
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[17:13] <sheldor> UnaClocker: can i use all kinds of rom formats?
[17:13] <sheldor> or is it retropie specific
[17:13] <sheldor> or retroarch specific
[17:13] <sheldor> or something
[17:13] <UnaClocker> Yeah, they're all exact images of the data.
[17:13] <sheldor> nice
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[17:14] <sheldor> UnaClocker: but i want a large collection for all emulators the retropie supports so i dont have to handpick them from the depths of the web
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[17:14] <UnaClocker> It's piracy, you're going to have to make like a pirate and dig the depths of the web.
[17:14] <Hodapp> last I checked, though, the Pogoplug doesn't have USB3; it does have GigE, but good luck getting that tiny little ARM processor to push anywhere near 100 MB/sec
[17:15] <UnaClocker> Hodapp: hehehe, it pushes well over 400 for me.
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[17:15] <TAFB> Hodapp: I can pull 108mb/sec from the Seagate box over the network from my Seagate box!! :)
[17:15] <Hodapp> UnaClocker: I highly doubt you're getting 400 MB/sec on any GigE.
[17:15] <UnaClocker> Ok.
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[17:15] <Hodapp> UnaClocker: Since GigE tops out at a theoretical limit of 125.
[17:16] <UnaClocker> On a scale of 0 to 1000, I've seen over 400.
[17:16] <bs123> from a ssd?
[17:16] <UnaClocker> Which is far better than 100mbit ethernet.
[17:16] <bs123> raid?
[17:16] <bs123> MB??
[17:16] <bs123> mb?
[17:16] <TAFB> bs123: My drive ;) http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2012-12-23-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_hacked_with_Arch_Linux_Sandisk_SSD.jpg
[17:16] <TAFB> MB
[17:16] <Hodapp> TAFB: er, wait, Seagate box over the network from your Seagate box?
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[17:17] <bs123> was gonna say...has to be ssd
[17:17] <TAFB> Hodapp: sorry, I only had 4 hours sleep last night
[17:17] <bs123> on 6gb
[17:17] <bs123> well i got a pi today...can't wait to get started
[17:17] <Hodapp> UnaClocker: What protocol? And to/from what?
[17:18] <TAFB> bs123: congrats!
[17:18] <bs123> ty
[17:18] <Hodapp> bs123 :D
[17:18] <TAFB> what are ya going to use it for!?
[17:18] <UnaClocker> samba, over a LAN.
[17:18] <bs123> i'm visiting uk...headed back to usa in a couple weeks
[17:18] <Hodapp> UnaClocker: what drives, for instance?
[17:18] <not-k-line> bs123: where about are you?
[17:18] <bs123> interested in testing xbmc on pi
[17:18] * ReggieUK sets mode +b *!*@unaffiliated/abstractbeliefs
[17:18] <bs123> beaconsfield england
[17:19] * not-k-line was kicked from #raspberrypi by ReggieUK
[17:19] <Hodapp> ...
[17:19] <bs123> huh
[17:19] <bs123> why was that?
[17:19] <bs123> reggie?
[17:19] <bs123> ....
[17:19] <TAFB> he's a troublemaker ;)
[17:19] <bs123> oh
[17:19] <ReggieUK> not that it's any of your business whatsoever but yeah, what TAFB said
[17:20] <bs123> k...well now i know
[17:20] <TAFB> you do a great job here ReggieUK :)
[17:20] <bs123> yeah nice to see someone watching things
[17:20] <ReggieUK> 99% of the time we leave you guys to it
[17:20] <ReggieUK> we don't ask for much
[17:21] <TAFB> over in #archlinux they have no ops on, ever :( gets a little outa hand sometimes, especially if you're trying to get help :(
[17:21] <bs123> !rules
[17:21] <Hodapp> TAFB: Plenty of Freenode channels do have power-tripping ops though, on the flip side.
[17:21] <ReggieUK> our one rule that is in the topic is no foul language
[17:21] <TAFB> ahhh
[17:21] <bs123> kk
[17:21] <ReggieUK> which is a pretty broad scope
[17:22] <UnaClocker> TAFB: Yeah, same problem in #Arduino.. Got some trolls that we can't get rid of, no mods..
[17:22] <bs123> look up the founder and contact him
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[17:23] <bs123> anyone here test running xbmc openelec on their pi?
[17:24] <UnaClocker> I use RaspBMC..
[17:24] <UnaClocker> I couldn't find a simple image to do an OpenELEC install, but it's easy to find one for RaspBMC.. So that's what I've always run.
[17:24] <UnaClocker> Plus I like the RaspBMC logo when it boots up. ;)
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[17:28] <john_f> TAFB: they are around, just lurking
[17:28] <john_f> and answering most of the questions
[17:28] <TAFB> lol, good to know :)
[17:29] <bs123> cool UnaClocker
[17:30] <bs123> i'm looking to run xbmc...on pi and feed tv off my mediaportal tv server
[17:30] <bs123> i'm new to linux pretty much
[17:31] <UnaClocker> :) Linux is great.
[17:31] <bs123> yeah just haven't had the time to get in to it
[17:31] <Hodapp> how many of your folks are running emulators on your Pi? How well does it work?
[17:31] <UnaClocker> With the XBMC installs like RaspBMC/OpenELEC, you'd really never know it's linux underneath..
[17:31] <bs123> yeah ...which is kinda good for me in a way...
[17:32] <bs123> just don't have time to learn linux....but i don't also wanna be ignorant
[17:32] <scummos> merry christmas ;)
[17:33] <bs123> merry xmas scummos
[17:33] <scummos> or whatever you like better than christmas
[17:34] <UnaClocker> My lapdock came with the UK keyboard??? :/
[17:34] <TAFB> UnaClocker: Oh no :(
[17:34] <TAFB> now ## for you ever!
[17:35] <TAFB> meant to say: no ## for you ever!
[17:35] <TAFB> lol
[17:35] <UnaClocker> Yeah, oh well.. :) Time to order the adapters for it..
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[17:36] <TAFB> ok, I've pretty much given up on live updating that CPU graph on my status page, going to switch to some fancy CSS one :) implementing now...
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[17:42] <not-k-line> ReggieUK - please, im not arguing with the way you run your channel, but at least learn how to use nickserv correctly when setting bans. if you reply to my civil /msg's, i can show you how.
[17:42] <not-k-line> (also merry xmas all)
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[17:50] <Hopsy> I can start my raspberrypi without wol! yeah
[17:50] <Hopsy> even when I am in the train
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[18:14] <wilmer> Just got my rpi. Can't get it to work. The PWR is solid lit and so is the ACT. It lights with a solid green light. But I get no display on either composit or HDMI. The LNK does not light up and I have tried threee differnt cables connected Right into my DSL modem.
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[18:15] <TAFB> have you imaged the SD card with the latest Wheezy image and are sure it's fully inserted?
[18:16] <wilmer> TAFB, Nope. I just downloaded the openelc image and followed the instructions on their page...
[18:17] <wilmer> TAFB, Have you got a usefull link to instructions on how to "image" the SD card with Wheezy image
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[18:17] <TAFB> wilmer: are you on a Windows PC with sd card reader?
[18:18] <wilmer> TAFB, nope I'm on a ubuntu
[18:18] <TAFB> sorry, I'm linux super noob. try here for instructions: http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
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[18:18] <not-k-line> TAFB: he could probably just dd it if its an image
[18:19] <TAFB> probably, last time I used DD I overwrote my hard drive, so I stick to windows for imaging :)
[18:19] <not-k-line> yeah, dd has a variety of names because of how powerful it is. disk destroyer is one i quite like
[18:20] <TAFB> hahaha! nice. I'll have to use that ;)
[18:20] <wilmer> TAFB, the imageing with openelec went smoothly but when I insert the SDcard (sandisc Ultra 32GB) the ACT is light up wityh a green light. It's NOT flashing... dont know if thats good or bad?
[18:20] <TAFB> wilmer: not sure I've ever heard of a solid green, you got a volt meter?
[18:20] <wilmer> TAF, sorry, Out of batteries on my volt meter :-(
[18:21] <TAFB> bummer. if you find some, check TP1-TP2 voltage: http://elinux.org/images/d/d1/RPI_Test_Points.JPG
[18:21] <not-k-line> TAFB: T1-T2 is what? Vcc-GND?
[18:21] <wilmer> The RPI is powered by an 230->USB transformer thats can supply 5V 1000mA
[18:22] <pksato> wilmer: may be a incompatible sd.
[18:22] <TAFB> wilmer: You can use the best supply in the world, but with a crappy microUSB cable it might not be providing enough current: My crappy MicroUSB cable: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNDeQMNCOiw
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[18:24] <wilmer> TAFB, the microUSB came connected to the powersupply... It's brand new
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[18:24] <TAFB> my cables were brand new too :(
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[18:25] <wilmer> pksato, I use a SanDisk Ultra SDHC card , SDHC I Class 10 32GB... according to some sights it should work with RPI
[18:25] <pksato> wilmer: put sd on computer, and check if have a small fat parttition
[18:25] <wilmer> TAFB, I also tried my phones microUSB charger... same result.. the LNK lights up solid green
[18:26] <wilmer> pksato, yes there is a small fat16 partition
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[18:26] <wilmer> I only have one SDcard at the moment... but I have two RPI and they both act the same way.. so I don't realy think it's something wrong with them
[18:27] <pksato> got another sd
[18:27] <wilmer> pksato, sorry.. not at the moment...
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[18:27] <wilmer> I bought the sandisk ultra as it should work
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[18:31] <pksato> wilmer: try other distro, like a raspbian or RiscOS.
[18:31] <biberao> hi
[18:31] <biberao> i have a rtl8188cu
[18:31] <biberao> anyone knows if openelec works with it?
[18:32] <biberao> i mean the driver is there or something since i cant ssh nor access the terminal
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[18:33] <pksato> biberao: this chip need a proprietary firmware.
[18:33] <Cykey> Where is the syslog file on raspbian? :s
[18:34] <pksato> Cykey: /var/log/syslog like any linux.
[18:34] <biberao> pksato: what can i do then
[18:34] <biberao> do i need to modify the build?
[18:34] <pksato> biberao: no.
[18:34] <pksato> I dont know openelec.
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[18:35] <pksato> Humm wait, just downloaded...
[18:35] <biberao> pksato: advise any other?
[18:35] <pksato> other?
[18:36] <biberao> xbmc fork
[18:36] <biberao> or something
[18:36] <sraue> biberao, to debug any issues with wlan its usefull to connect to LAN after booting and check the dmesg output
[18:36] <biberao> since omxplayer cant read subs
[18:36] <biberao> sraue: i dont have a cable near me
[18:37] <pksato> biberao: have a alternative version of omxplayer can support external subtitles.
[18:37] <sraue> biberao, which encryption you use? does your passphrase contains any special characters?
[18:37] <sraue> biberao, your wlan is not hidden?
[18:38] <biberao> sraue: nope but its wpa2
[18:38] <biberao> and no its not hidden
[18:38] <biberao> pksato: which alternative?
[18:39] <sraue> biberao, then it should work if your passphrase dont contains any very special charcters... but as i said... use LAN to debug / provide the logs for this
[18:40] <biberao> ok will try then
[18:40] <biberao> thanks
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[18:41] <pksato> biberao: https://github.com/torarin/omxplayer/downloads
[18:42] <pksato> but, have a problem, only support UTF-8 subtitles, if it is a latin1, omxplayer cant play any thing.
[18:42] <biberao> so
[18:43] <biberao> ill try to install it
[18:43] <biberao> the problem also
[18:44] <biberao> trying to find openelec password
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[18:45] <biberao> funny
[18:45] <pksato> root openelec
[18:45] <biberao> i login with root
[18:45] <biberao> doesnt ask for a password
[18:45] <biberao> and it shutdowns the window
[18:45] <biberao> :|
[18:46] <pksato> ok, openelec running g\here
[18:46] <biberao> ?
[18:46] <biberao> wlan too?
[18:46] <pksato> no
[18:46] <biberao> one thing it happens to me also is that when i run omxplayer
[18:46] <biberao> behind the movie theres raspberry logo
[18:46] <biberao> and more console letters
[18:47] <pksato> how to get a shell?
[18:47] <biberao> you cant
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[18:52] <biberao> pksato: unless its aln
[18:52] <biberao> *lan
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[18:52] <biberao> but i cant even open it too
[18:52] <tpimtts> Hi guys; how do I remove LXDE for good from weezy?
[18:52] <biberao> can i buy a microusb lexar
[18:52] <biberao> 32gb?
[18:54] <pksato> biberao: yes, openelec support rtl8188cu.
[18:54] <wilmer> pksato, It was the SD card. I found a 512MB in my old GPS and now it kicked in. To bad a just bought a brand new 32GB that doesnt work :-(
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[18:55] <pksato> wilmer: or, is just formating error.
[18:58] <tpimtts> hey guys; how do I set the resolution size of the terminal when not using X server?
[18:59] <pksato> tpimtts: you means, text font size?
[19:00] <tpimtts> pksato: yeah :/
[19:00] <pksato> lxteminal?
[19:00] <tpimtts> pksato: no, before you startx -- that terminal
[19:01] <pksato> ah...
[19:01] <pksato> raspbian?
[19:01] <wilmer> pksato, What filesystem should I format to on SDcard? Openelec seems to do it's own partitions?
[19:01] <tpimtts> pksato: yeah
[19:02] <biberao> ok
[19:02] <pksato> wilmer: most important partition as a small fat32.
[19:02] <biberao> pksato: how did you check and how did you nable?
[19:02] <biberao> *enable
[19:02] <pksato> others. depend of OS what use.
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[19:03] <pksato> biberao: I dont have a same wifidongle
[19:03] <biberao> and i also made omxplayer subtitles work
[19:03] <biberao> but the problem is a lot of garbage behind
[19:03] <biberao> like the console letters
[19:03] <biberao> dont know why it happens
[19:03] <biberao> !
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[19:04] <alajarvela> yo, I'm having trouble with using apt-get. it worked yesterday but then I couldn't ssh into the rpi, now i can ssh after i set a static ip and so forth but now i cant use apt-get. says failed to fetch directories
[19:04] <alajarvela> ideas?
[19:05] <artag> maybe your router will only route for devices that it's allocated an address
[19:05] <pksato> biberao: try it to get a black screen setterm -blank force; omxplayer options and video; setterm -blank poke
[19:05] <rymate1234> alajarvela, maybe you need to sudo apt-get update
[19:05] <tpimtts> so anyone have any idea how to configure the tty resolution? :)
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[19:05] <pksato> tpimtts: wait...
[19:05] <alajarvela> rymate1234: not sure if you're joking but it doesnt work like said.
[19:06] <alajarvela> artag: hmm maybe. i'll look into that
[19:06] <rymate1234> alajarvela, might help if you give us the actual error
[19:06] <biberao> pksato: wheres that
[19:06] <rymate1234> if you have ssh, can't you copy + paste the error?
[19:06] <biberao> i cant find that thing pksato
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[19:07] <alajarvela> ok one sec
[19:07] <biberao> one more thing pksato how did you find about rtl?
[19:08] <alajarvela> rymate1234: http://hastebin.com/wevamiruju.pas
[19:08] <rymate1234> thx
[19:08] <tpimtts> pksato: no problem
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[19:08] <pksato> biberao: openelec have a firmware file
[19:09] <rymate1234> alajarvela, never seen that one before o.o
[19:10] <pksato> tpimtts: dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[19:10] <alajarvela> i tried googling a bit and some had errors with the dns resolving, tried that and deleted some dpkg status file too which helped some guys
[19:10] <sheldor> where is the .vimrc for sudo vim?
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[19:11] <biberao> pksato: where?
[19:11] <pksato> biberao: and, you tested wifi?
[19:12] <biberao> its working
[19:12] <biberao> ssh isnt though
[19:12] <biberao> :|
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[19:13] <sheldor> oh it is in /root/.vimrc
[19:13] <biberao> i need to setup smbclient
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[19:13] <pksato> VGA 16x28 is a very big font.
[19:15] <tpimtts> pksato: that's perfect thanks
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[19:16] <tpimtts> pksato: i'm using vga 16x32
[19:16] <tpimtts> it's spot on
[19:16] <tpimtts> massive
[19:16] * tpimtts laughs
[19:17] <pksato> tpimtts: on a big TV?
[19:17] <tpimtts> yeah
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[19:17] <SquirrelCZECH> hi folks :-)
[19:17] <alajarvela> ohh got it to work
[19:18] <jackmackg> This is not really pi related but can someone tell me what these video inputs are http://ww2.justanswer.com/uploads/steve555/2010-12-28_002104_clipboard02.jpg ? Are they normal composite? They are called "color stream input"
[19:19] <hotwings> component
[19:19] <jackmackg> component* my bad. Ok thank you
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[19:19] <hotwings> composite is on a single cable
[19:19] <hotwings> component is when the signal is split
[19:19] <jackmackg> so thats the better one
[19:19] <jackmackg> component I mean
[19:19] <beet0l> merry christmas
[19:20] <beet0l> Linux raspberrypi 3.2.27+ #250 PREEMPT Thu Oct 18 19:03:02 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
[19:20] <jackmackg> merry Christmas to you beet0l
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[19:20] <beet0l> now to insall opencv and mess around
[19:22] <hotwings> generally speaking it is, yeah jackmackg
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[19:22] <biberao> pksato: about the setterm do i do it before omxplayer or after
[19:23] <pksato> and?
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[19:24] <biberao> ?
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[19:25] <jackmackg> thank you hotwings
[19:25] <pksato> what is question?
[19:25] <biberao> how can i run setterm and then omxplayer
[19:25] <biberao> same time?
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[19:26] <pksato> setterm -blank force; omxplayer options and video; setterm -blank poke
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[19:26] <pksato> it is a tree command on one line.
[19:27] <pksato> work only if run on console.
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[19:34] <biberao> pksato: what happens if i do from ssh
[19:34] <biberao> will it work there also?
[19:34] <pksato> no
[19:34] <pksato> but
[19:34] <pksato> try setterm -blank force >/dev/tty1
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[19:35] <biberao> ok
[19:35] <biberao> whats setterm -blank "poke"?
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[19:35] <pksato> to back screen again.
[19:36] <biberao> poke exists?
[19:36] <pksato> setterm -blank poke >/dev/tty1
[19:36] <biberao> thank requires sudo
[19:36] <biberao> i mean dev/tty1 not allowed
[19:37] <pksato> oh yes, need root, not own terminal.
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[19:38] <biberao> doesnt work
[19:38] <biberao> :|
[19:38] <pksato> no?
[19:39] <pksato> what happen?
[19:39] <pksato> sudo chvt 10
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[19:40] <pksato> change virual terminal to 10, a not used.
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[19:41] <_ds_> pksato, it's RISC OS, not RiscOS.
[19:42] <pksato> ok.
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[19:44] * _ds_ has actual Acorn hw, rpcemu and the RPi ??? been hacking on getting Repton working a little better (via rpcemu), but since it was adapted to 32-bit addressing quite a few years ago???
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[19:45] <_ds_> Only thing is that I'd used some rotated loads ??? easily fixed by masking the bottom two bits and applying a rotate, though.
[19:45] <_ds_> (Then again, the OS handles that.)
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[19:47] <biberao> pksato: it died
[19:47] <pksato> died?
[19:48] <pksato> rpi died?
[19:48] <pksato> or, monitor enter on standy mode?
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[19:54] <Cykey> So my Raspberry Pi running Raspbian randomly reboots
[19:54] <Cykey> (Only happens since I started using the Edimax WiFi dongle)
[19:55] <pksato> Cykey: PSU.
[19:55] <Cykey> iPhone power supply. Outputs 5V at 1A
[19:55] <pksato> use a powered HUB?
[19:55] <SpeedEvil> merry Pimas everyone.
[19:55] <techkid6> Merry Pimas to you too :)
[19:56] <techkid6> My Pi is in the mail :P It is my late Pimas gift xD
[19:56] <_ds_> http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseekid.cgi?id=0003714
[19:56] <Cykey> pksato: maybe it's just a software issue?
[19:56] <_ds_> (wrong ??, but never mind that)
[19:57] <pksato> Cykey: It is a PSU issue.
[19:57] <chithead> if the issue persists with a powered hub, then it might be a software problem
[19:58] <Cykey> hm, okay
[19:58] <pksato> RPi need a 500mA, dongle another 500mA
[19:58] <Cykey> Do you guys recommend a PSU?
[19:58] <Cykey> I mean powered hub
[19:58] <chithead> http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals
[19:58] <SpeedEvil> yes
[20:00] <biberao> pksato: made it work
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[20:00] <rymate1234> Cykey, yes - I power my pi and my wifi dongle from my powered hub
[20:00] <alajarvela> http://hastebin.com/haqoliviqu.vbs here's some error i'm getting atm. I cant unpack things i apt-get apparently
[20:01] <Cykey> rymate1234: Brand?
[20:01] <rymate1234> "Logik"
[20:02] <biberao> i should convert srt to utf8
[20:02] <pksato> biberao: iconv
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[20:03] <biberao> thanks
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[20:09] <mhoney> anyone know why the f1-f4 keys dont work in mc when inside tmux? They work fine outside of tmux
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[20:28] <djazz> how can I make my pi act as an a2dp bluetooth audio receiver? i got it working on my laptop (Lubuntu 12.10), with pulseaudio and bluez
[20:28] <djazz> same dongle on both
[20:28] <djazz> tutorial: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=26685
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[20:36] <gordonDrogon> so has santa been good to everyone?
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[20:39] <scummos> yes! he gave me a new oscilloscope :D
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[20:40] <scummos> to replace the (very geeky, tough) 1965 model we had before
[20:40] <scummos> or 1970
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[20:40] <TAFB> great CPU load test for your Pi: md5sum < /dev/urandom
[20:40] <StefandeVries> LOL.
[20:41] <scummos> yes, you can also gzip it or so ;)
[20:41] <scummos> multiple threads cause even worse load
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[20:44] <scummos> now I can finally debug i2c / SPI by looking at what really happens! ;)
[20:44] <gordonDrogon> scummos, neat! Which one?
[20:44] <aaa801> Once again, shit christmas
[20:44] * aaa801 ducks from ReggieUK
[20:44] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, it's what you make it...
[20:45] <aaa801> No its what my family makes it, as always
[20:45] <scummos> gordonDrogon: http://www.rigolna.com/products/digital-oscilloscopes/ds2000/ds2202/ ... pricey, I know, but worth its money for what I can tell
[20:45] <scummos> and I do use the bandwidth, do
[20:45] <scummos> *so
[20:45] <gordonDrogon> scummos, excellent!
[20:45] <DooMMasteR> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NpOFCY-_i_M my Parents new Toy :P
[20:45] <scummos> it still nicely displays 600MHz sine waves
[20:46] <gordonDrogon> yup - and if you have a use for it commercially, then even better, but if not, it's a cool toy and I'm envious!
[20:47] <scummos> nah, not commercially... just for a, let's say, educational project
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[20:47] <gordonDrogon> a robot cleaner thingy... we have one of those - me :)
[20:47] <scummos> which is somewhat but not strictly related to my university stuff
[20:47] <scummos> http://i.imgur.com/wOpvZ.png this is the response I measured with a little python script ;)
[20:47] <scummos> (those new devices are all very nicely programmable through USB)
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[20:48] <gordonDrogon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NeL_XRctM18&feature=youtu.be <-- one of my ladder boards being programmed in scratch!
[20:48] <scummos> by "response" I mean "amplitude of a sine wave of that frequency which still remains"
[20:48] <scummos> what's Scratch?
[20:49] <scummos> wow that's one bright LED
[20:49] <scummos> how do you make your stuff always look so clean
[20:49] <scummos> my circuits are always a mess of breadboards and wires ;)
[20:49] <gordonDrogon> scratch is a sort of kiddies programming language - a bit like building lego blocks.
[20:49] <scummos> ok
[20:49] <scummos> never heard of it...
[20:50] <gordonDrogon> yea, the blue LEDs are bright - we didn't know the full spec. of the LEDs we had, so I just guessed resistors.
[20:50] <gordonDrogon> 220?? was a safe bet, but hey ho!
[20:50] <scummos> ah, ok
[20:50] <scummos> are they 20mA?
[20:51] <gordonDrogon> the leds - actually, I've no idea since I didn't buy them - Tandy sourced them after I'd made my first test board.
[20:52] <gordonDrogon> but 220?? will limit it to a max. of 15ma. I suspect there's < 10mA doing through the LEDs though.
[20:52] <gordonDrogon> Actually, I can measure it..
[20:53] <scummos> don't LEDs usually have a falloff voltage (or what's that called?) of ~1.9V or so?
[20:53] <scummos> so it would be more like 7mA
[20:53] <gordonDrogon> depends on the LED.
[20:53] <scummos> depends on the color, yes
[20:54] <gordonDrogon> 2mA going through the blue LED.
[20:54] <gordonDrogon> the 220 resistor is dropping 0.43v
[20:56] <scummos> oh and also on the substrate, apparently
[20:56] <scummos> ok
[20:56] <scummos> yes, I think blue was especially much falloff?
[20:57] <gordonDrogon> 5mA through the green, etc. ones. I guess the blue is much more efficient.
[20:57] <scummos> oh yes, apparently 2.48V or more
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[20:57] <scummos> might also be that it just appears brighter to the eye
[20:57] <gordonDrogon> that too.
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[20:57] <gordonDrogon> we originally wanted to go with clear LEDs too, but I think that might have been a challenge for assembly!
[20:58] <scummos> clear LEDs?
[20:58] * gordonDrogon nods.
[20:58] <scummos> what do you mean by that?
[20:58] <gordonDrogon> clear epoxy.
[20:58] <gordonDrogon> so they all look like clear glass when not lit up.
[21:00] <gordonDrogon> we went got coloured ones in the end just to make sure there was no confision.
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[21:00] <scummos> aren't they always like that?
[21:00] <scummos> aah, colored... yes
[21:00] <scummos> I see what you mean
[21:00] <scummos> well, I recently just used 2mA SMD ones
[21:01] <gordonDrogon> if you look at this: http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/images/arduino/kit/10111-01.jpg it has clear LEDs.
[21:01] <scummos> (since they can easily be driven from logic pins)
[21:01] <gordonDrogon> still need a series resistor though?
[21:01] <gordonDrogon> those on my ladder board are being driven directly from the Pi's GPIO - via a resistor.
[21:02] <scummos> yes, unfortunately :(
[21:02] <scummos> but on an old RAM DIMM, I discovered that there's nice four-times resistors, which are one part and have four channels
[21:03] <scummos> those happen to be 220 ohms, even ;)
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[21:04] <gordonDrogon> bonus!
[21:05] <scummos> yeah, I desoldered them all :D
[21:06] <scummos> I also removed the SDRAM chips... need to try to control them myself these days
[21:06] <gordonDrogon> :)
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[21:07] <gordonDrogon> A company I worked for once upon a time made their own memory SIMs (in the 32-pin days)
[21:07] <gordonDrogon> at the time memory was scarce too - early 90's.
[21:07] <gordonDrogon> they cooked up all sorts of whacky designs in the process just to get density up.
[21:07] <scummos> heh
[21:07] <frikinz> hey. happy christmas!
[21:07] <scummos> I guess they would have paid good money for one of the 16M chips I have here!
[21:08] <scummos> yeah, merry christmas! ;)
[21:08] <gordonDrogon> 16Mbits?
[21:08] <scummos> 16MBytes
[21:08] <gordonDrogon> Woo...
[21:08] <scummos> (bam!)
[21:08] <gordonDrogon> biggest board they had on the Mk1 system was 48MB. That was a board 14" square too.
[21:08] <gordonDrogon> One transputer, 48MB RAM, and 5 (large!) support chips.
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[21:11] <scummos> the eevblog guy has this video where he disassembles that huuge hard drive from the eighties
[21:11] <scummos> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBjoWMA5d84
[21:11] <scummos> I think he confuses 10MB and 10GB all the time (I think it's a 10GB drive)
[21:11] <scummos> but the thing itself is pretty nice :D
[21:11] <scummos> (you can see it at 6:40 for example)
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[21:13] <markedathome> gordonDrogon: did i see you mention that you worked on an atari transputer workstation earlier? I very nearly got to buying a falcon030 but then I got to use apollo workstations at uni
[21:14] <gordonDrogon> Heh... yes, seen some of his reviews. the accent is a bit hard to understand here :)
[21:14] <gordonDrogon> markedathome, not an atari one - I worked for a company called Meiko ..
[21:14] <scummos> oh yeah, the guy is very special
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[21:14] <scummos> but that's part of the fun ;)
[21:15] <gordonDrogon> he seems to get cool stuff sent to him by various equipment manufacturers!
[21:15] <artag> gordonDrogon: do you remember the parsys supernode ?
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[21:16] <gordonDrogon> artag, name rings a bell...
[21:16] <gordonDrogon> there was a lot going on at the time - late 80's early 90's ...
[21:16] <gordonDrogon> I spent nearly 8 years with Meiko.
[21:16] <artag> similar era to meiko. Thorn's transputer based machine
[21:17] <artag> didn't have quite the same cachet as the computing surface :(
[21:18] <gordonDrogon> Yea.
[21:18] <gordonDrogon> it was an odd old thing.
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[21:19] <scummos> gordonDrogon: yes, that's pretty nice, he gets a lot of stuff for free :D
[21:19] <scummos> I should do such a blog too
[21:19] <scummos> but I think I lack the necessary knowledge
[21:19] <Rasperry> I have some questions
[21:19] <gordonDrogon> you could stuff dozens of transputers into a PC - as they had on-board 2 or 4MB of RAM, but very few systems with BIG RAM out there.
[21:19] <Rasperry> I just got the Raspberry PI for Christmas..
[21:19] <gordonDrogon> Rasperry, hurrah :)
[21:19] <Rasperry> yes
[21:19] <Rasperry> its updating currently
[21:19] <gordonDrogon> Raspbian?
[21:20] <artag> it does a lot of that :)
[21:20] <Rasperry> how do I know if its too hot or not?
[21:20] <Rasperry> its model B
[21:20] <Rasperry> :)
[21:20] <gordonDrogon> if you rouch the cpu/memory chip and your skin sticks to it - it's too hot.
[21:20] <Rasperry> lol
[21:20] <Rasperry> sticks?
[21:20] <gordonDrogon> seriously - it's good to over 70C.
[21:21] <Rasperry> maybe ill find a tempature monitor app..
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> run this command: /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[21:21] <Rasperry> will it feel hot when I touch it at 70c?
[21:21] <Rasperry> its updating currently lol
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> most humans feel too hot to touch at over 40-45C.
[21:21] <Rasperry> ok good
[21:21] <gordonDrogon> so if you can keep your finger on it for a second or 2 it'll be under 45C.
[21:21] <Rasperry> I overclocked to 700mhz :)
[21:21] <artag> the ethernet chip runs hotter in my experience but I'm not doing max overclocking
[21:21] <Rasperry> yes I can
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> 700MHz is the default...
[21:22] <Rasperry> really?
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[21:22] <Rasperry> I overclocked it to turbo
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> are you using screen or keyboard, or ssh?
[21:22] <Rasperry> I am using keyboard currently
[21:22] <Rasperry> ssh enabled
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> press ALT+F2
[21:22] <Rasperry> waiting for it to finish updating
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> and you'll get a 2nd login screen.
[21:22] <Rasperry> oh ok
[21:22] <Rasperry> how do I go back?
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> then you can login and run more stuff.
[21:22] <gordonDrogon> ALT+F1
[21:23] <Rasperry> uhm
[21:23] <Rasperry> its not doing anything
[21:23] <gordonDrogon> there are 4 consoles by default (I think) ALT+F1 - ALT+F4.
[21:23] <Rasperry> made a odd character
[21:23] <Rasperry> oh there
[21:23] <gordonDrogon> Press & hold ALT, then press the F4 key
[21:23] <Rasperry> alt f4 made the screen fly everywhere
[21:23] <Rasperry> it keeps going down the screen
[21:23] <Rasperry> wtf
[21:23] <Rasperry> lol
[21:23] <Rasperry> I did
[21:23] <Rasperry> makes ^@
[21:24] <gordonDrogon> odd.
[21:24] <Rasperry> is this screen?
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[21:24] <gordonDrogon> no - standard linux console driver.
[21:24] <Rasperry> cool
[21:24] <gordonDrogon> been like that for like 20 years now...
[21:24] <Rasperry> I got a gift card for chapters(book store) so I can buy a linux manual
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[21:24] <Rasperry> I am a newfag
[21:24] <Rasperry> for the most part
[21:25] <gordonDrogon> odd word, but whatever...
[21:25] <Rasperry> sorry
[21:25] <freezway> so I got a pi for xmas. Except it keeps losing all connectivity (both network & usb)
[21:25] <freezway> it'll work for a little then the net will slow then die
[21:25] <Rasperry> are the pins desoldered or out of place?
[21:25] <freezway> then the usb stops working
[21:25] <freezway> me?
[21:25] <Rasperry> yes
[21:26] <freezway> yeah looks fine
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[21:26] <Rasperry> anyway.. is there any way I can use a AMD GPU on my raspberry PI for bitcoin mining?
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[21:27] <freezway> Rasperry, prooly not
[21:27] <Rasperry> aww D:
[21:27] <freezway> theres no way you'll get the required bandwidth to the card even if you found a way to interface it
[21:27] <Rasperry> ok
[21:27] <Rasperry> damn
[21:27] <freezway> which wouldn't be possible anyway, given the pi lacks pci-e
[21:28] <Rasperry> not sure what to do with this thing
[21:28] <gordonDrogon> Rasperry, it's not an AMD GPU ..
[21:28] <mgottschlag> I immediately thought of http://hackaday.com/2012/10/08/stm32-driving-a-pcie-video-card/
[21:28] <gordonDrogon> however, even fi you could use it, it's not efficient - in terms of time take vs. power used (AIUI)
[21:28] <Rasperry> ok
[21:29] <Rasperry> maybe ill run a IRC server on it
[21:29] <Rasperry> you think it could handle it?
[21:29] <gordonDrogon> Hm. thought you mean the on-board gpu, however, yes no 'slots' ...
[21:30] <Rasperry> ok
[21:30] <artag> that hackaday link is interesting. if you just want to use the gpu alone for something compute-intensive it might work
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[21:31] <artag> presumably mining doesn't need to do much i/o
[21:31] <mgottschlag> indeed
[21:31] <artag> though the cards would cost more than the bitcoins are worth ..
[21:31] <Rasperry> you can mine unlimited
[21:32] <Rasperry> its a hobby thing
[21:32] <Rasperry> my dad bought me a book and something expensive for christmas, maybe itll be a gpu
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[21:36] <markedathome> freezway: for bitcoin mining you load an app to the gpu, and feed it nonces at a rate that can be fed easily over a usb1.1/2.0 connection
[21:37] <markedathome> it is a glorified sha256(sha256(nonce)) hashing machine
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[21:48] <TAFB> ok, fancy auto updating bar graph for the CPU, and bar changes colour depending on CPU load :) http://tafb.yi.org
[21:48] <TAFB> box is running a load test right now to test the dynamic bar
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[21:49] <Rasperry> back
[21:49] <Rasperry> I dc'd
[21:49] <Rasperry> done updating
[21:49] <Rasperry> I tried running LXDE
[21:49] <Rasperry> CPU at 100% :(
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[22:04] <scummos> very fancy
[22:04] <TAFB> :)
[22:04] <TAFB> going to get memory and free disk space up there, then she's done
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[22:14] <fayimora> hey guys, i got an external HDD for my Pi, i've connected it to my mac to transfer some media files but it's just mounted as a volume and i can't transfer anything.. any help?
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[22:15] <TAFB> fayimora: if you weren't in a hurry you could connect it to your Pi and share it from there ;) lol
[22:15] <Moopington> Hey, anyone know the best way to "stopx"? I've heard ctrl-alt-del, but that doesn't work for me.
[22:15] <TAFB> ctrl - something - f1
[22:15] <markedathome> i thought it was ctrl-alt-backspace
[22:15] <fayimora> TAFB: but the media files are on my Mac
[22:16] <scummos> Moopington: that's disabled by default in recent X versions
[22:16] <scummos> you can enable it in xorg.conf but don't ask me how
[22:16] <scummos> also you can just do things like "pkill X"
[22:16] <Moopington> Really? Alright then.
[22:16] <scummos> or yeah, Ctrl+Alt+F1 if you just want to switch to a TTY, altough that will not stop X.
[22:16] <Moopington> I was looking for something a bit more smooth, but that works. Didn't even think of that. XD
[22:16] <TAFB> oh, it doesn't stop it!?? lol, whops.
[22:17] <scummos> TAFB: no, you can just press Ctrl+Alt+F7 to get back.
[22:17] <scummos> if you're using a display manager through e.g. systemd or something you can also stop the display manager
[22:17] <Moopington> fayimora: you could probably just ssh everything onto the hard drive from the mac
[22:17] <scummos> e.g. I use systemctl slim.service stop
[22:17] <TAFB> so after ctrl alt f1 how do you kill it?
[22:17] <scummos> but that is a bit specific to my setup
[22:17] <scummos> TAFB: stop your display manager for example
[22:17] <freezway> so I only have power and ethernet plugged into my Rpi
[22:17] <Moopington> Well, i'm going to try pkill x.
[22:17] <TAFB> k.
[22:17] <freezway> and ethernet still dies
[22:18] <pksato> 0
[22:18] <fayimora> Moopington: yeah i guess so.. do you have any idea why it's not allowing me use it from the mac anyways? Do i have to reformat the disk for Mac?
[22:18] <TAFB> freezway: you check TP1-TP2 voltage?
[22:18] <freezway> just randomly stops owrking
[22:18] <freezway> yeah
[22:18] <freezway> ~5.2V
[22:18] <freezway> plenty
[22:18] <TAFB> that's too high
[22:18] <TAFB> my Pi would drop USB after about 5.18
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[22:18] <Moopington> Works perfectly. :) Thanks scummos
[22:18] <TAFB> had to use a different adapter or crappy cable
[22:18] <freezway> weird
[22:19] <freezway> with just one of my adapters its 4.92
[22:19] <freezway> with both its 5.2
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[22:20] <freezway> and with just one but the other one its 5.18
[22:20] <scummos> Moopington: you're welcome
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[22:23] <freezway> what is the tolerance of the input power voltage for the RPI
[22:23] <freezway> is 4.9 too low?
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[22:23] <freezway> 5.1 too high
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[22:38] <gordonDrogon> freezway, you'll get away with a bit of variance - what I've found (although no exhaustive tests!) is that 'brown outs' are causing more issues for me.
[22:39] <gordonDrogon> so some charger PSUs are just not designed to cope with a small surge - such as the cpu+gpu+memory clocking up in "turbo" mode.
[22:39] <freezway> hmm
[22:39] <freezway> ill hook it up to a computer's 5V molex
[22:39] <freezway> that should be able to handle it
[22:40] <gordonDrogon> so they might be stable at 700MHz, or even stable at 900MHz, but if a surge happens - big burst of Ethernet, or USB traffic maybe, or gpu speeding up, then there may be issues.
[22:40] <gordonDrogon> I've not had time to do exhaustive tests though.
[22:40] <gordonDrogon> buy yes - a PC's PSU ought to cope well!
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[22:40] <scummos> freezway: that was probably ansewred by now, but USB says 4.75 to 5.25V
[22:41] <gordonDrogon> I think bursy SD card writing causes a little surge too.
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[22:41] <gordonDrogon> I really need a fast data logger to check though - not sure my DSO Quad is up to capturing it.
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[22:42] <Moopington> Hmm??? Anyone know what the little green light is for?
[22:42] <biberao> hi
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[22:43] <Moopington> So far it's only really flickering when I try to plug too many things in, so I'm thinking it has something to do with power usage.
[22:43] <Moopington> Hi biberao
[22:43] <Hopsy> does raspberry support wakeonlan?
[22:43] <Moopington> ^Nope
[22:43] <Hopsy> I am confused now
[22:43] <Moopington> Well??? you can't really turn it off
[22:43] <Hopsy> can I send message?
[22:43] <Hopsy> to my pc
[22:43] <gordonDrogon> Moopington, it's the 'ok' LED - normally connected to SD card writes.
[22:44] <Hopsy> so to wake my pc on
[22:44] <scummos> message to your pc how and about what?
[22:44] <Hopsy> up*
[22:44] <Moopington> Oh, alright. Thanks.
[22:44] <scummos> probably, yes
[22:44] <gordonDrogon> Moopington, you can re-provision it for user use though.
[22:44] <Moopington> Hopsy, yeah you can probably wake other stuff up.
[22:44] <Datalink> Hopsy, RPi can send WOL magic packets (any device can, really, it's more a matter of the router) but it does not shut down so can't recieve WOL
[22:45] <Moopington> Has anyone gotten street fighter 2 working? I've poked around a bit, and seen vids of it but I can't find any documentation...
[22:45] <Datalink> Moopington, lights are: drive/OK, Power, Ethernet connected, Ethernet Link, Ethernet 100baseT indicator
[22:45] <Moopington> Or, well any retro game really
[22:45] <Moopington> There's more than two lights??? 0.o
[22:45] <Moopington> lol
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[22:45] <Datalink> the RPi has 5 total
[22:46] <Moopington> I haven't plugged it into ethernet yet, too far from the router
[22:46] <Datalink> if you have an A, then there might only be 2 populated sicne the Ethernet/USB Hub chipset isn't present
[22:46] <Moopington> I've got a model b. :)
[22:46] <Hopsy> so it can send wol messages, but its not working for me :(
[22:46] <Moopington> Xmas gift
[22:46] <Hopsy> whats the standard port?
[22:46] <Moopington> I have no clue. Did you set the other machine up to recieve wol packets?
[22:46] <Hopsy> to receive wol messages
[22:47] <markedathome> wakeonlan should be in the etherwake package, use etherwake <mac address>
[22:47] <Hopsy> yes
[22:47] <Datalink> Hopsy, moment
[22:47] <markedathome> or wakeonlan package wakeonlan <mac address>
[22:47] <Hopsy> I have used: wakeonlan <mac address>
[22:47] <markedathome> receiving ethernet adapter needs wol enabled in OS, and/or bios
[22:47] <Hopsy> I will try etherwake
[22:48] <Hopsy> also re-checked that, it was on haha :p
[22:49] <Datalink> typically WOL does require a supporting router, the Ethernet Adaptor needs WOL support enabled in the BIOS (typical) and the OS (though that's secondary) the port is irrelevent but traditionally sent on UDP port 7 or 9, the router you're using has to pass the magic packet properly, which modern consumer routers tend to not, due to direct allocation
[22:50] <Datalink> it'll only work over wired ethernet, as wifi is not maintained in standby modes for devices
[22:50] <Hopsy> I dont use a router
[22:50] <Hopsy> its directly connected
[22:50] <Datalink> then you can disreguard the router part of what I said as not relevent to your situation
[22:51] <Datalink> since I don't know what folks have set up, I tend to assume traditional consumer arrangements, and go from there as I learn what folks have
[22:53] <Hopsy> brb, I will test it again
[22:54] <Datalink> the actual format of the datagram for a magic packet is <TCP/UDP multicast header or header sending the data to the device (WOL supporting commercial routers)><port>FF:FF:FF:FF:FF:FF<Ethernet MAC Address>x16
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[22:56] <Datalink> it has also been sent as an EtherType packet (lower level than TCP/IP) 0x0842, though since it's the Ethernet adaptor in a low power state it's literally looking for <0xFFx6><MACx16> data sequences using a lower level portion of the ethernet adaptor's programming
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[22:57] <chiggins> Merry CHristmas #raspberrypi! Could anyone recommend a good wifi dongle to use without powered usb hub, hopefully that supports packet injection as well?
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[22:59] <Datalink> chiggins, you too, the one available through Adafruit is good, though it will reboot the pi on plugin, once plugged in, it's solid though, it's in my pi along with my bluetooth dongle and hasn't given me any problems aside from hotplug brownout
[23:00] <chiggins> Datalink: know if it supports packet injection?
[23:00] <Datalink> https://www.adafruit.com/products/814 ourlink
[23:00] <Datalink> I don't, not what I'm after in a device, check it over though
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[23:01] <Launch_Director> which one of these has a remote control like utorrent? transmission, rtorrent or deluge
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[23:01] <Hopsy> okay, I did a re-check: boot from onboard lan is enabled
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[23:01] <chiggins> Datalink: looks nifty. and it doesn't need an external powersupplyy, right?
[23:01] <Hopsy> and I have send this message: eterwake <mac address>
[23:01] <Datalink> chiggins, nope, it's plugged in at device on mine
[23:01] <Hopsy> and it didnt worked
[23:02] <chiggins> Fantastic. Throwing this on my after-christmas buy list :)
[23:02] <chiggins> thanks!
[23:02] <Datalink> Hopsy, did you fill in the actual MAC address of the device or type etherwake <mac address>?
[23:02] <markedathome> etherwake you need to be root or 'su'd to root
[23:02] <Datalink> I appologize if this one sounds like one of those 'is it plugged in' questions, it kinda is...
[23:02] <Hopsy> AB:CD:EF and go on
[23:02] <Datalink> sudo etherwake de:ca:fb:ad:de:ad:be:ef
[23:03] <Datalink> replace decafbad deadbeef with your MAC of course
[23:03] <frikinz> that's a long mac adress!
[23:03] <Hopsy> indeed
[23:04] <frikinz> :p
[23:04] <frikinz> or did I sleep for a century?
[23:04] <Hopsy> I have 12 characters
[23:04] <Datalink> it's just two debug hexes... I wasn't trying to make a MAC address there
[23:04] <markedathome> it is a mac address for the future, an ipv6 compatible one :-)
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[23:04] <Hopsy> buttt
[23:04] <Hopsy> I also tried
[23:04] <Hopsy> with -D
[23:05] <Hopsy> and it ended like, sendto worked ! 116
[23:05] <Datalink> Hopsy, sudo... that was the part that was missing...
[23:05] <markedathome> when the other machine is up i take it you can ping and see the result in the arp cache?
[23:05] <Hopsy> no, I also had that
[23:05] <Datalink> hm
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[23:06] <Datalink> I need to learn how to work with ARP caches...
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[23:07] <deps> ellu!
[23:07] <markedathome> just do "arp -a" and it should print a list of the mac addr and ip addresses it sees
[23:07] <deps> Gotcha, thanks! (mind reader!)
[23:08] <Launch_Director> any torrent client with web based remote controll?
[23:08] <deps> utorrent
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[23:08] <M4TVW> Hello?
[23:08] <Launch_Director> is that on debian?
[23:08] <Hopsy> I get the same mac address markedathome
[23:08] <Launch_Director> deps:
[23:09] <deps> Launch_Director: don't know.
[23:09] <Launch_Director> ...
[23:09] <markedathome> Hopsy: have you checked google to see if there is any known problems with the nic/card/motherboard and wol?
[23:09] <frikinz> Launch_Director: apt-cache policy foobar will tell you if there's an available package for foobar
[23:09] <fayimora> Pls what's the recommended drive format for the Pi? I formatted my external HDD to ExFAT but i doesn't recognise it :(
[23:10] <deps> Launch_Director: Seems to be windows only. Didn't know you wanted a debian one.
[23:10] <markedathome> Launch_Director: utorrent is windows, i think there may be a wine port issue
[23:10] <Launch_Director> frikinz: yep, i was just suprised that there would be windows port
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[23:10] <markedathome> rtorrent is available
[23:10] <Launch_Director> anyway i hear transmission has webui
[23:11] <M4TVW> Can anyone tell me how to kill a process? I need to edit a file that is in use but for some reason it wont let me kill the process saying "operation not permitted"
[23:11] <markit> fayimora: ext4 is a good choice, don't use M$ formats
[23:11] <markedathome> osx only isn't it?
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[23:11] <markit> fayimora: if you have to plug it also in M$ PC, then and only then use FAT32
[23:11] <markit> (I mean, plug that USB hard disk)
[23:11] <frikinz> M4TVW: sudo kill ?
[23:12] <markedathome> exFat is msp proprietary, you want FAT32, or if only used on rpi then ext(2|3) depending on hd size
[23:12] <fayimora> markit: i don't have a FAT32 option but i have MS-DOS(FAT).. is that the same thing?
[23:12] <markit> fayimora: where you don't have?
[23:12] <markedathome> what are you using to format
[23:12] <fayimora> I'm using my mac to format
[23:12] <Hopsy> according to this pdf it supports wake on lan markedathome ftp://europe.asrock.com/manual/Z68%20Extreme4%20Gen3.pdf
[23:12] <markit> fayimora: complain with apple then ;P
[23:13] <Hopsy> I dont see much problems listed at google
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[23:13] <fayimora> markit: phew.. This Pi has drained my energy..
[23:13] <markit> fayimora: you could boot with a GNU/Linux live cd, and the use it... it's Free(dom) software
[23:14] <markit> fayimora: why don't you format it from the Pi?
[23:14] <M4TVW> <+frikinz> Wow thanks! I had it nearly there but was missing the "sudo" bit!
[23:14] <fayimora> markit: oh yeah.. how do i do it via the Pi.. Mind you i want to be able to use the drive inn my mac and windows too
[23:15] <deps> Hmm, is at hotel. Macbook on wifi. rip connected to mac using ethernet cable borrowed from front desk. Having troubles finding rip ip with "arp -a" command. Rpi is using a SD card that contains a fresh "dd"-ed image of raspian wheezy. (2012-12-16) Help? :)
[23:15] <M4TVW> It still wont let me edit the file though. Its a conf file and says i dont have the permissions to edit it
[23:15] <markit> fayimora: mmm then the common denominator is the crappy Fat32
[23:15] <markit> if your iSomeething is able to use that format
[23:16] <mbalho> deps: do the leds on the pi blink from time to time? mine usually do when its on a network
[23:16] <frikinz> deps: so you need a dhcp server on the mac eth interface?
[23:16] <mbalho> deps: also you have to turn on ethernet sharing in sys pref, then run `cat /var/log/system.log | grep OFFER`
[23:16] <fayimora> I don't see a FAT32 option.. I was told to use ExFAT because it's cross platform and allows files larger than 4gb
[23:16] <fayimora> I guess that is wrong markit
[23:17] <markit> exfat is a new patented closed format created by M$ to close people
[23:17] <markit> M$ could have adopted ext4 for instance
[23:17] <deps> mbalho: Turining it on and gripping gives me nothing at all. :/
[23:17] <fayimora> by the way, what's M$ ?
[23:18] <markit> fayimora: Microsoft
[23:18] <deps> frikinz: How do I do that? Got any handy links?
[23:18] <fayimora> oh ok.. So after spending 1hr arranging my files, i'm back to square one :(
[23:18] <markit> fayimora: for M$ to iSomething, what format were you using?
[23:19] <frikinz> deps: for mac? Mmmhhh not really. I use dnsmasq under linux, dunno if it exist for mac os x
[23:19] <markit> fayimora: and also, why not simply share that HD as a lan driver?
[23:19] <deps> frikinz: Ok, will google around for that. thanks!
[23:19] <frikinz> deps: or do you have a sd card reader to set it to fixed ip?
[23:19] <markit> fayimora: what do you really want to achieve? maybe there is a better way
[23:20] <fayimora> markit: I just want the HD to be like a usb, plug in, copy and paste. Simple.. I'll copy files from my mac to the HD and use it via my Pi.. Somehting like that
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[23:20] <frikinz> exFat is clearly NOT cross platform..
[23:20] <deps> frikinz: I have what the official raspberian wheezy contains. Never connected it to any monitor. Just plugged it into my mac with the cable and now I'm trying to SSH into it.
[23:20] <markit> fayimora: if you but a new usb, it's usually already formatted in Fat32
[23:20] <markit> fayimora: is really strange your iSomething does not support it
[23:21] <fayimora> markit: I bought an External HD,
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[23:21] <markit> fayimora: but iSomething and M$ are really on the same ligue when it comes to chain people to their platforms
[23:21] <fayimora> Don't think it was cause I coulnt even write to it
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[23:21] <markit> fayimora: I want to say that if you but an usb pen, are you able to plug in your iSomething and read/write it without formatting it?
[23:22] <markit> because if the answer is "yes", then your iSomething can read FAT32
[23:22] <markit> and if it's so, I hope it can format it too...
[23:23] <fayimora> markit: yeah i just normally plug and play
[23:23] <frikinz> deps: by default the image comes with dhcp (quite normal). if you have an sd card reader (in the mac? I have on old laptops even) then you can mount the 2nd partition (as long as mac os x can read extfs which I tink it can) and change ip adress to a fixed one.
[23:23] <fayimora> I tried the HD initially but it was just a dumb volume.. couldn't write to it
[23:24] <fayimora> whats the easiest way to achieve what i'm trying to achieve?
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[23:24] <fayimora> format to FAT32? cc markit
[23:24] <frikinz> deps: if you can't read the sd from somewhere else then you'll need a dhcp server and start it on your mac ethernet interface
[23:24] <markedathome> deps: does this help? http://lildude.co.uk/howto-configure-raspberry-pi-with-vnc-without-ever-connecting-keyboard-monitor
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[23:26] <markit> fayimora: do you have a basic knowledge of bash commands? I use the terminal as much as I can, so can't help with "click and clock" interface
[23:26] <deps> frikinz: markedathome: This sounds complicated! :) Thanks for the help. Will try to mount the SD on my macbook and switch to static.
[23:26] <markit> I would become root first, with $ sudo su
[23:26] <markit> then plug the hd
[23:26] <fayimora> markit: yeah i'm comfortable with the terminal
[23:26] <markit> issue # dmesg
[23:26] <markit> look at what device is taken by the usb
[23:26] <CarlFK> 2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian - does it do dhclient on eth0? or do I have to set that up somewhere ?
[23:26] <markit> I've never tried with Ri, I guess /dev/sdb
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[23:27] <markit> then if is already partitioned, just do # mkfs.vfat /dev/sdb1
[23:27] <WorkGroup> Hello, first sorry for my bad English. Knows anyone Shairport on Raspberry Pi + Raspbain?
[23:27] <markedathome> or search google for raspberry pi headless i've read a decent blog writeup on how to do all this in the last week but can't find it in the history of any of my browsers
[23:27] <markit> otherwise you first have to create a partition, probably with fdisk /dev/sdb, or create it with your iSomething
[23:28] <markit> fayimora: I'm around for some time, feel free to ask step by step if you have dubts
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[23:29] <fayimora> markit: the "dmesg" spitted quite a lot of data out.. What am i looking for?
[23:29] <markit> the tail of the output
[23:30] <WorkGroup> I only bekomm an Error
[23:30] <markit> fayimora: like [40119.844094] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[23:30] <frikinz> CarlFK: it calls dhclient yes
[23:30] <markedathome> mac setup for rpi --> http://txfx.net/2012/12/05/raspberry-pi-headless-setup/
[23:30] <markit> fayimora: and some line above something like sdb: sdb1
[23:31] <fayimora> markit: mine is qute different.. should i be doing this on my mac or Pi?
[23:31] <fayimora> *quite
[23:32] <markedathome> the other alternative is to run some packet sniffing software like ethereal or tcpdump to look for dhcp broadcasts
[23:32] <CarlFK> frikinz: any idea if that will run forever? pi has been on for a while, just now plugged in the lan/dhcp
[23:32] <markit> fayimora: I can help only on GNU/Linux, so Pi, I don't touch iSomething, and you told that iSomething can't format fat32
[23:32] <markit> but google for iSomething format fat32
[23:32] <markit> maybe you can find a solution you are more confortable with
[23:32] <markit> if you don't find one, we will use Pi
[23:33] <frikinz> CarlFK: there's normally ifplugd which should trigger network configuration on media connection. in practice I haven't seen that working.
[23:33] <pksato> trying to drive hd44780 LCD, but only get randon characters :(
[23:33] <fayimora> markit: ok i'll switch to my pi now
[23:33] <fayimora> markit: http://www.hgst.com/support/external-drives-faq/how-to-format-my-drive-for-use-in-windows-and-mac-fat32
[23:34] <CarlFK> frikinz: thanks, I'll try turning it off and on again :)
[23:34] <fayimora> markit: the last line says "The drive will be formatted as FAT32 when completed."
[23:34] <frikinz> CarlFK: that's what I had to do.
[23:34] <markit> yep, so you can try, because if it were fat16, you will not able to see big hd
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[23:35] <markit> (4GB is the limit)
[23:36] <markit> fayimora: if I were you, I would give a try with that
[23:36] <fayimora> markit: yeah i'm going to try that now.. just hope the 4gb limit isn't a problem for me
[23:36] <markit> fayimora: you don't have to put files bigger than 4Gb there, don't you?
[23:37] <markit> because in any case Fat32 has that FILE size limit
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[23:37] <markit> mm maybe 2GB
[23:37] <markit> no no, was 4
[23:38] <pksato> wow... LCD worked.
[23:40] <fayimora> markit: thanks.. I've formatted it.. I'll transfer some media files and try with the pi :D.
[23:40] <markit> fayimora: good, keep me informed :)
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[23:40] <fayimora> sure!
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[23:47] <Torikun> merry xmas pi users!
[23:48] <deps> merry christmas to you too Torikun
[23:48] <TAFB> i hope santa was good to everyone :)
[23:48] <Torikun> meh
[23:48] <Torikun> mo love
[23:48] <Torikun> gotbdaughter wii-u thats all
[23:48] <Torikun> jiw about you
[23:49] <WorkGroup> Yes he is, Santa gives me an Raspberry Pi
[23:49] <TAFB> nice!
[23:49] <Torikun> wow
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[23:49] <TAFB> santa must have planned way in advance to get you a Pi!
[23:49] <Torikun> what will you do it
[23:49] <Torikun> lol
[23:49] <Torikun> how long it takes to get a pi now
[23:49] <TAFB> i'll be sellin one of my Pi's soon :)
[23:49] <Torikun> how much
[23:50] <TAFB> prolly $100US ish, 512mb B china version, $70 aluminum case, $30 Patriot EP Class 10 card
[23:50] <Torikun> wow why
[23:50] <TAFB> so $100 US for the whole bundle
[23:51] <Torikun> why selling
[23:51] <TAFB> i bought two Pi's cause runnin one as a server, I wanted an in-place backup. Because I'm running the seagate box for my server now, I can sell one of my Pi's.
[23:51] <TAFB> I don't believe in charging a lot of $$ for it, cause I'm sure someone can put it to better use than me ;)
[23:51] <TAFB> http://tafb.yi.org/
[23:51] <frikinz> Does someone run a raspbian here with unmodified /etc/network/intefaces? My eth0 is not set to auto (only lo is), is that the same for you too?
[23:51] <frikinz> interfaces
[23:51] <TAFB> live bar graphs workin :)
[23:52] <Torikun> your keeping your webserver pi?
[23:52] <TAFB> mine? nope, my seagate arch box is now my web server.
[23:52] <TAFB> that status page is hosted on it :)
[23:52] <Torikun> i really wish redhat was for arm
[23:53] <Torikun> lol cant you use two pis at home?
[23:53] <Torikun> maybe failover with pacemaker
[23:53] <TAFB> naaa. can't think of enough to do with it :) I'll be running one Pi with live webcam and LED's so peeps can turn em on and off from the web :)
[23:54] <Torikun> let me kniw which cam you fet
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[23:54] <Torikun> inwant one
[23:54] <TAFB> i got some logitech HD one for christmas, mixed results if it'll work with the pi or not
[23:54] <WorkGroup> Has anyone here an Temperature sensor on his Pi?
[23:54] <Torikun> tafb some cams ig directly in router
[23:55] <TAFB> WorkGroup: temp sensor: /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[23:55] <Torikun> you do not even need pi now adays with ipcams
[23:55] <TAFB> Torikun: yeah, I got some IP cams, but they are too big to squeeze where I want :)
[23:55] <Torikun> lol
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[23:56] <Torikun> let me know how it works and i will do it
[23:56] <TAFB> will do
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[23:56] <Torikun> i want hlme suvelliance
[23:56] <TAFB> when the Pi detects motion it's going to send me picture text messages to my phone ;)
[23:56] <Torikun> power might be an issue
[23:57] <Torikun> awesome
[23:57] <WorkGroup> temp=50.8'C is it to Hot?
[23:57] <TAFB> WorkGroup: nope, that's just right.
[23:57] <TAFB> WorkGroup: if it gets to 70 start to worry
[23:57] <Torikun> its not room temperature
[23:57] <TAFB> WorkGroup: if it goes over 85 it'll shut down.
[23:58] <WorkGroup> It's only on for 10h?
[23:58] <TAFB> WorkGroup: ??
[23:58] <WorkGroup> It's so hot after 10 hours
[23:58] <TAFB> it gets that hot after 1 hour ;)
[23:58] <TAFB> it won't get any hotter assuming your room temp stays the same ;)
[23:58] <WorkGroup> ohh okay
[23:59] <Torikun> tafb your cam small?
[23:59] <TAFB> tiny
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[23:59] <Torikun> hopefully autodected
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[23:59] <TAFB> WorkGroup: Run: watch /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[23:59] <TAFB> and blow lots on the big chip
[23:59] <TAFB> and watch the temp go down ;)

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