#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2012-12-29

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[0:00] <TomWij> Line 30?
[0:00] <Toothpick> TomWij: http://bpaste.net/show/66984/ :)
[0:01] <TomWij> Toothpick: No, you'll want to pass along a lot more to that configure line (type ./configure --help for a full list). And if you want the music / sound in the GUI you will want to enable alsa and pulse.
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[0:03] <Toothpick> TomWij: oh... can i extract the same configure line as the one portage uses if i had emerged it using portage?
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[0:03] <TomWij> Toothpick: Yes, you can adapt that one.
[0:04] <Toothpick> TomWij: how is that possible?
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[0:08] <TomWij> Toothpick: Add the options that are missing and change the lines that you need to change?
[0:08] <Hopsy> why is this not working for me? sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode monitor
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[0:09] <Hopsy> and this is: sudo iwconfig wlan0 mode master
[0:09] <TomWij> For instance, the Portage ebuild doesn't have a RPi target.
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[0:09] <TomWij> Doesn't enable the omxplayer, doesn't get rid of sdl, and so on...
[0:10] <gordonDrogon> waterproofing is overrated.
[0:10] <Toothpick> TomWij: yea but how do i translate use flags into configure options ?
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[0:10] <gordonDrogon> if the cables come out the bottom in a properly sized grommet then as long as you keep it turned on - to keep it warm, you shouldn't have any issues with moisture.
[0:10] <TomWij> So the few I gave should set you up for a good start. And passing the flags should make it proceed through the "missing library".
[0:11] <gordonDrogon> I've run outdoor wi-fi units like that for years. its when you turn them off that you get problems...
[0:11] <TomWij> Toothpick: Well, you either set the USE flag on your system or you replace the $(use_enable something) by --disable-something or --enable-something.
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[0:11] <TomWij> The bonus of doing it in your custom ebuild is that you can't break it when you recompile it later and have changed the system USE flags.
[0:12] <Toothpick> TomWij: i rather use use flags per package and not globally...
[0:12] <TomWij> (Another way to do it more clean is to put the USE flags in /etc/portage/package.use)
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[0:12] <megaproxy> http://imgur.com/FMzRY can you cut these bits off /
[0:12] <TomWij> Yeah, exactly, I was assuming the opposite. It's a good thing to do it per package. :)
[0:14] <markedathome> hi all, how do I get rid of on/off clicks when using the audio socket? eg sudo aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav clicks before and after,
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[0:16] <TomWij> markedathome: unmute and set it at a volume in alsamixer (or amixer)?
[0:16] <TomWij> The only thing I can come up with is that aplay unmutes it, plays the file and mutes it again; but well, I don't know whether aplay would do that.
[0:17] <markedathome> it isn't just aplay, it also occurs in espeak
[0:17] <Toothpick> TomWij: so do you say that the USE flags i set in /etc/portage/package.use will apply to the ./configure process ?
[0:18] <TomWij> markedathome: Hmm, what kind of playback device are you using?
[0:19] <markedathome> how do i find out? it is standard raspbian, with a pair of headphones plugged into the audio socket
[0:19] <TomWij> Toothpick: http://devmanual.gentoo.org/index.html --> http://devmanual.gentoo.org/ebuild-writing/functions/src_configure/configuring/index.html
[0:19] <TomWij> "use_enable test" transforms into --enable-test if USE="test" is set and --disable-test if USE="-test".
[0:20] <TomWij> "use_enable test test2" allows you to do --enable-test2 for USE="test"
[0:20] <Toothpick> TomWij: btw it says "bash: econf: command not found"
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[0:21] <TomWij> markedathome: I'd think the headphones turn off/on based on whether there is audio playing or not, have you tried different ones?
[0:21] <Hopsy> oh dear, how do I solve this. My wifi doesnt go to an other mode :(
[0:22] <TomWij> Toothpick: econf is an ebuild function, in bash you would call ./configure; if you want it the clean way you would want the ebuild to do what you want
[0:23] <Toothpick> TomWij: now i get it, so can i edit the ebuild and then emerge it ?
[0:23] <TomWij> Toothpick: Exactly.
[0:24] <TomWij> You can try to do manual things on the temporary directory to see how you would need to change the ebuild, then either start over or let it continue.
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[0:24] <TomWij> And eventually you'll have an ebuild capable of doing the whole thing (or a large part of it).
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[0:25] <martk100> Has anyone managed to get xbmc on the pi working wiith a touchscreen?
[0:26] <dr_willis> martk100: :) not heard anyone in here mention that.. would be neat..
[0:26] <TomWij> martk100: Makes me wonder if it has touchscreen support.
[0:26] <Phrewfuf> martk100: i tried making a touchscreen run on a panda with ubuntu...it was a pain in the butt
[0:26] * rikkib 31.6 deg C inside. 36 deg C outside on the window in direct sunlight.
[0:26] <Phrewfuf> so i didn't even think about raspbian and xbmc :D
[0:26] * rikkib shirt off.
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[0:27] <TomWij> rikkib: Nice, you're having summer while I'm having winter.
[0:27] <Phrewfuf> TomWij, rikkib nice, you two are having great weather, while i have rain :(
[0:28] * rikkib guitar practice
[0:28] <TomWij> Phrewfuf: Watch out with that, I'm in rainy Belgium.
[0:29] <Olipro> wow, a discussion about Gentoo on the RPi... in the RPi channel
[0:29] <Phrewfuf> TomWij: rainy Beldgui, rainy Germany...no difference
[0:29] <Olipro> I guess there's intelligent life out there after all
[0:29] <Phrewfuf> rainy DERP
[0:29] <Phrewfuf> Belgium
[0:29] <martk100> OK thanks all. I will have to hope someone does it eventually.
[0:29] <gordonDrogon> I have touchscreens working on a Pi...
[0:29] <gordonDrogon> not video output touchscreens though.
[0:29] <megaproxy> TAFB_ssd, how can i cool my pi in a bottle
[0:29] <Phrewfuf> gordonDrogon: those are called touchpads
[0:30] <Olipro> 1) put it in a bottle
[0:30] <Olipro> 2) fill it with mineral oil
[0:30] <gordonDrogon> Phrewfuf, are they? it looks like a screen to me - it displays moving images behind the touchpad..
[0:30] <Olipro> Profit.
[0:30] <Phrewfuf> gordonDrogon: huh? not video touchscreens with video`?
[0:31] <gordonDrogon> well they can ply video, just not the Pi's video output.
[0:31] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/4d-systems-intelligent-displays-and-the-raspberry-pi/
[0:31] <Phrewfuf> random video?
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[0:31] <Phrewfuf> aw crap, now i need to type the link again
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[0:31] <gordonDrogon> video on a local SD card.
[0:31] <martk100> gordomDrogon: My touchscreen works , just about. But not in xbmc.
[0:32] <TomWij> Phrewfuf: Oh, I see. :D
[0:33] <Phrewfuf> gordonDrogon: where to get thos neat displays?
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[0:35] <gordonDrogon> Phrewfuf, right now, directly off 4D in Austrailia, but they sell via the "usual" places - e.g. skpang in the UK.
[0:36] <martk100> Phrewfuf: The screen and touychscreen . controler etc can be purchased fro Chalkboard Electronics .
[0:36] <Phrewfuf> so...you used the serial lconnection for touch?
[0:36] <martk100> Phrewfuf:Mine is usb.
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[0:37] <gordonDrogon> the 4d ones are serial.
[0:37] <megaproxy> how can i cool this: http://imgur.com/HedPX
[0:37] <techkid6_> Hey, are there any mirrors for the Raspbian image? I am getting a 404 on the official download
[0:37] <Phrewfuf> is just the touch serial/usb? how do they get the image (if able to connect to rpi)
[0:37] <gordonDrogon> megaproxy, does it need cooling?
[0:37] <gordonDrogon> techkid6_, what do you have in /etc/apt/sources.list?
[0:38] <megaproxy> its going to go outside, and in the summer its going to get hot
[0:38] <TAFB_ssd> techkid6: try the torrent link, their website kept downloading corrupt images for me.
[0:38] <megaproxy> its running about 50c atm
[0:38] <megaproxy> in the sun...
[0:38] <megaproxy> it will rocket up
[0:38] <Phrewfuf> megaproxy: oil
[0:38] <Phrewfuf> just fill that thing with oil
[0:38] <megaproxy> you think?
[0:38] <gordonDrogon> techkid6_, ah- forget that - you're aftre the raspbian image...
[0:38] <techkid6_> I don't have a torrent client on this laptop ._. But I guess I will find one
[0:38] <gordonDrogon> 50C is OK.
[0:38] <Phrewfuf> oil is nonconductive
[0:38] <martk100> Phrewfuf:Screen is hdmi touchscren is usb.
[0:38] <techkid6_> gordonDrogon: Yes, is there any other download besides the torrent?
[0:38] <Phrewfuf> martk100: is that a lilipu screen that you have there?
[0:39] <megaproxy> what other ways?
[0:39] <Phrewfuf> liliput*
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[0:39] <megaproxy> i mean i could make another box under it that is shielded from rain
[0:39] <megaproxy> and have a fan suck air into the tub
[0:39] <Phrewfuf> megaproxy: or...you fill it with oil
[0:39] <megaproxy> and i have some dust filters for pc cases.
[0:39] <martk100> Phrewfuf: No a high res (1280x800) 10inch display.
[0:39] <megaproxy> Phrewfuf, yes its a option, im thinking of others
[0:39] <techkid6_> Oh wait, scratch that, I can't use JVM with Raspbian, I guess I will use soft-float
[0:40] <gordonDrogon> http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/download.php?file=/images/raspbian/2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian/2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian.zip
[0:40] <gordonDrogon> seems to work for me...
[0:40] <Phrewfuf> martk100: ah ok. just sounded familiar to that 7inch screen from china that i have in my car
[0:41] <techkid6_> odd, the link works now.... thanks though :)
[0:41] <martk100> Maybe.Not cheep but it all works.But needs lots of development.
[0:41] <Phrewfuf> martk100: said 7inch thingy had a resistive touch...ubuntu had difficulties with it
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[0:43] <martk100> Phrewfuf: This touchscreen is capacative with theoretical multitouch capability.
[0:44] <martk100> Phrewfuf: I may to wait untill Android becomes available to make much progress.
[0:44] <Phrewfuf> ah, i've seen those screens
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[0:45] <Phrewfuf> it is a bit disturbing that those want to be connected from below the board
[0:45] <Phrewfuf> (at least those for the panda, the raspi ones use HDMI)
[0:46] <martk100> Phrewfuf: My screen controler plugs int the hdmi socket.
[0:46] <TomWij> techkid6_: You can use JVM on hardfloat, there's a preview for that.
[0:47] <techkid6_> Orly? :D Great :D
[0:48] <TomWij> techkid6_: http://jdk8.java.net/fxarmpreview/ --> http://www.java.net/download/JavaFXarm/jdk-8-ea-b36e-linux-arm-hflt-29_nov_2012.tar.gz
[0:49] <techkid6_> You are good people :D
[0:49] <techkid6_> My Pi just came in today, so I am scrambling to set it up xD
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[0:50] <techkid6_> Wait, do I have to build apps against JDK 8 now? :/
[0:51] <Coburn> ewww java
[0:51] <techkid6_> RaspberryPiBot was made in Java :/
[0:51] <TomWij> Coburn: XBMC has it as a build dependency...
[0:51] <techkid6_> All of /my/ bots have been made in Java, which is one of the things I plan on using the bot for xD
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[0:51] <techkid6_> pi*
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[0:52] <TomWij> Only reason I have Java on my RPi, and I might look into what it's actually needed for and whether it can be removed.
[0:52] <davzie> Crap my Pi is slow with Raspbmc
[0:53] <davzie> I need to get a Class 10 SD card instead of this class 4 one I'm using
[0:53] <Phrewfuf> davzie: its not slow woth raspbmc...its slow with the card :D
[0:53] <techkid6_> I am using a class 4 :/
[0:53] <Phrewfuf> m)
[0:53] <davzie> Phrewfuf: Any recommendations?
[0:53] <davzie> I want an 8gig class 10
[0:54] <Toothpick> techkid6_: me too
[0:54] <davzie> Was looking at Sandisk Extreme
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[0:54] <Phrewfuf> davzie: i have a transcend sdhc 16GB c10 right here
[0:54] <techkid6_> Ok, does Raspbian work alright o a 16GB Class 4?
[0:54] <chithead> http://elinux.org/RPi_Performance
[0:54] <techkid6_> Ah beautiul
[0:54] <Phrewfuf> techkid6_: hell no
[0:54] <chithead> has some performance numbers for various sd cards
[0:54] <TomWij> 4GB Class 4 here too ordered along from RS, getting a larger Class 10 before I run out of space and since the performance is at least double as good.
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[0:55] <cliff-hm> sandisk 16G c10 for me
[0:55] <techkid6_> Well thats bad news :/
[0:55] <TomWij> Should've just bought the Class 10 straight away, but I was like "want to be able to use it straight away once I receive it" so it still fits well as a back-up testing SD card which is "known to work with it".
[0:55] <chithead> there exist some class 4 cards which are fast on the pi, and there exist some class 10 cards which are dog slow
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[0:56] <davzie> Ah see this is what I have: Sony 8GB SDHC Class 4 - 17.4MBs Read - 11.8MBs Write
[0:57] <techkid6_> and one last q, does the Pi start up with SSH enabled? Or will I have to enable it myself?
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[0:57] <Phrewfuf> techkid6_: what distro?
[0:57] <techkid6_> Raspbian
[0:57] <Phrewfuf> it's enabled
[0:57] <techkid6_> Beautiful!
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[0:59] <techkid6_> Well, time to run the imager, thank you all so much :)
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[1:04] <Hexxeh> compiling cython on the pi is anything but fun :(
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[1:08] <plugwash> Hexxeh, btw do you have any ideas why my updated chromium packages may be failing with an illegal instruction error?
[1:08] <Hexxeh> got a trace?
[1:09] <plugwash> no, someone else did the testing but apparently gdb on the Pi wasn't able to digest the debug information
[1:09] <plugwash> I should try it myself
[1:10] <Hexxeh> yeah, it's a bit of a pain, you'd need to get a coredump
[1:10] <Hexxeh> or put a stripped version on the pi and use gdbserver
[1:10] <plugwash> and then bring the coredump over to the imx board and try and run gdb on it there?
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[1:11] <Hexxeh> yep
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[1:17] <clear`> whats a good media player for rasbian
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[1:17] <markedathome> TomWij: OK. well, popping on start/finish when playing on audio socket http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=8783
[1:17] <markedathome> tried mplayer on different output (e.g. alsa, sdl, pulseaudio) ; tried sox ; tried aplay
[1:17] <markedathome> tried sudo amixer csed numid=3 1 (explicit set to headphone socket) tried mpd
[1:17] <markedathome> why would I have snd-bcm2835 in /etc/modules and not snd_bcm2835, and would it make a difference? lsmod indicates that snd_bcm2835 is in use
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[1:18] <TomWij> markedathome: No different headphones to try?
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[1:19] <TomWij> I do have snd-bcm2835 for modprobing as well, I assume that doesn't matter.
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[1:21] <markedathome> tried different headphones, and a speaker set, all three have same start and end.
[1:21] <markedathome> mplayer tends to dump a click between .5 and 1s after
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[1:22] <techkid6> Thanks guys, my pi is all set up :D
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[1:27] * dr_willis puts some ice cream and a cherry on top of techkid6 's pi.
[1:27] <dr_willis> Now its finished!
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[1:32] <TechDesk>
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[1:33] <techkid6> Thanks willis :D
[1:33] * techkid6 eats dr_willis' icecream, but throws out the cherry, as he hates cherrys
[1:34] * Phrewfuf jumps right after it
[1:34] <Phrewfuf> how could you?!
[1:34] <Hexxeh> any spotify fans who used to use despotify here?
[1:34] <Hexxeh> fwiw it's broken these days, but i might have something for you to try out...
[1:35] <TechDesk> it's a joke :)
[1:35] <techkid6> I like every other fruit D:
[1:35] <TechDesk> no i joke, is really my future web site
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[1:44] <du> i just registered the second best raspberrypi related domain name in existence
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[1:45] <Torikun> yo
[1:45] <gnarface> yo
[1:45] <du> yo
[1:45] <gnarface> wrong channel
[1:45] <Hopsy> yo
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[1:45] <hnsr> yo
[1:46] <Torikun> whats new in the pi world
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[1:46] <hnsr> eagerly awaiting miencraft for pi release
[1:46] <SpeedEvil> they found a 9 on the end
[1:46] <hnsr> minecraft*
[1:46] <Hopsy> I have installed wifi!
[1:46] <techkid6> I am waiting also :)
[1:46] <Torikun> wheb hnsr
[1:46] <Torikun> i mean when
[1:47] <hnsr> hopefully in a few days, not sure if they've given an exact eta
[1:47] <du> anyone know if you can order the pibow raspberry pi top and bottom plates separately? i got the adafruit one but i want the raspberry picture
[1:47] <hnsr> they wanted to release sooner but there were bugs to be squashed apparently :D
[1:48] <Hopsy> who does recognize this? https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/379082_2405483865012_172754515_n.jpg
[1:48] <Torikun> I can not see the slow pi running minecraft
[1:48] <Torikun> i cant wait to test it
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[1:49] <du> i dont think the rpi made any pretense about being fast, except that its allegedly possible to play hd video
[1:49] <hnsr> with a small chunk size and short draw distance, I could see it work
[1:49] <du> kinda missing the point
[1:49] <Hopsy> noyone recognize it :(
[1:49] <Hopsy> *s
[1:49] <Torikun> your right du
[1:49] <hnsr> doesn't quake3 run pretty well on the rpi?
[1:49] <du> could you tell my wife that
[1:50] <Torikun> lol
[1:50] <du> i could see quake1
[1:50] <du> because i played the shit out of quake1 on a pentium 400
[1:50] <Torikun> 3 is pushing it
[1:50] <techkid6> Would tightvncserver work for the pi?
[1:51] <Amadiro> quake3 runs fine at 4x fullscreen anti-aliasing at 30fps or so
[1:51] <Torikun> i use it a lot techkid6
[1:51] <techkid6> Beautiful
[1:51] <Amadiro> at 1080p
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[2:15] <bennypr0fane> hello, does anyone know whether or not under raspbian the Pi can connect to Internet via usb? I'm trying to use my phone as a usb modem
[2:16] <plugwash> what sort of phone is it?
[2:16] <bennypr0fane> a Nokia N900
[2:16] <bennypr0fane> it has an application for forwarding its 3G internet through the usb port
[2:17] <bennypr0fane> that usually works in Linux on my other ocs
[2:17] <bennypr0fane> *pcs
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[2:18] <plugwash> do you know how it presents itself to the PC?
[2:18] <bennypr0fane> It's recognized as a wired internet connection, not WiFi
[2:18] <bennypr0fane> I think it says "I'm a usb modem", but not sure
[2:18] <plugwash> mmm, I know my andriod phone shows up as a USB ethernet adaptor and I got that working with raspbian with no issues
[2:19] <plugwash> (just had to add a line to /etc/network/interfaces for it and then bring it up)
[2:19] <bennypr0fane> what's that line say?
[2:19] <plugwash> iface usb0 inet dhcp
[2:20] <scummos> you can configure USB as net interface? coool :D
[2:20] <bennypr0fane> here's about the Maemo app: http://maemo.org/packages/view/qtmobilehotspot/
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[2:21] <plugwash> bennypr0fane, looks like it shows up as a usb network adaptor
[2:22] <bennypr0fane> plugwash ha, I knew there had to be a way to configure devices. But isn't there a GUI util installed?
[2:22] <plugwash> so I suspect it will work fine on raspbian
[2:22] <bennypr0fane> so same as your phone, right?
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[2:22] <plugwash> mmm
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[2:23] <plugwash> I dunno if the foundation ship any kind of GUI network configuration tool in their images or not. I haven't tried running the GUI on a Pi that was running the founation image myself
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[2:26] <bennypr0fane> what about that line in /etc/network/interfaces: "allow hotplug wlan0" wouldn't it make sense to add one for the usb0 as well?
[2:27] <bennypr0fane> you use not Raspbian?
[2:27] <bennypr0fane> Or only /wo GUI?
[2:28] <plugwash> I use raspbian (heck I develop it) but I don't use the GUI much
[2:28] <plugwash> and while my main "dev Pi" is running raspbian it isn't running the raspberry pi foundation raspbian image
[2:28] <plugwash> since that did not exist when it was set up
[2:30] <du> i registered raspberryapi.com
[2:30] <du> kinda a dick move
[2:31] <plugwash> so why did you do it?
[2:31] <TAFB_ssd> i like raspberryapi.com :) it's good.
[2:31] <du> thanks, TAFB_ssd. plugwash, to develop it.
[2:31] <plugwash> develop it into what?
[2:31] <TAFB_ssd> I registered rpi.xxx but when they called to check out my porn company I forgot it was them calling and messed up the conversation so they cancled it :(
[2:32] <du> really? wow
[2:32] <du> plugwash educational site
[2:32] <bennypr0fane> so I added that line in .../interfaces
[2:32] <bennypr0fane> still nothing happening
[2:32] <plugwash> bennypr0fane, ok now do ifup usb0 to bring the interface up
[2:33] <bennypr0fane> whcih program manages the internet connection?
[2:33] <plugwash> the "ifupdown" scripts
[2:33] <bennypr0fane> there seems to be no network manager
[2:33] <plugwash> anyway as I said "ifup eth0" to bring the interface up
[2:34] <plugwash> sorry "ifup usb0"
[2:34] <bennypr0fane> ok
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[2:36] <Gorroth> hey
[2:36] <bennypr0fane> woohoo, I got internet!
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[2:37] <bennypr0fane> ifup said "usb interface already configured"
[2:37] <Hexxeh> been working on an open-source spotify implementation to bring Spotify (back) to the rpi now that despotify is broken
[2:37] <bennypr0fane> it needs sudo btw
[2:37] <Hexxeh> awesome one-liner fun is involved: print "\n".join([track.getName() for track in Spotify("username","password").getPlaylists()[0].getTracks()])
[2:37] <Hexxeh> (prints the names of all tracks in your starred playlist)
[2:38] <bennypr0fane> plugwash do I need this command to start the connection for each session?
[2:38] <Gorroth> what is that? python?
[2:38] <Hexxeh> Gorroth: yeah
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[2:38] <Gorroth> cool
[2:38] <plugwash> you can put "auto usb0" in to bring the interface up on startup
[2:38] <Hexxeh> got a simple MPD based client working
[2:38] <bennypr0fane> plugwash I didn't check if it was up before running it
[2:38] <Hexxeh> http://f.cl.ly/items/3o382Z3x2U2k3T0N2h1y/Screen%20Shot%202012-12-29%20at%2001.30.17.png
[2:38] <plugwash> but i'm not sure what will happen if it's not present
[2:39] <plugwash> (you may have to bring it up manually in that case)
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[2:39] <MAssEy> anyone else getting hash sum mismatch on apt-get update?
[2:39] <Hexxeh> yeah I was before
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[2:39] <bennypr0fane> plugwash hmmm, I added "allow hotplug usb0". Where would I have to insert auto usb0? just at the end of the file?
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[2:40] <Hexxeh> oh this stuff works with a free spotify account too
[2:41] <plugwash> allow-hotplug does a similar thing to auto but I belive has some hotplugging support which auto doesn't
[2:42] <plugwash> but i'm not a massive expert
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[2:42] <plugwash> you probablly only want one or the other of auto or allow-hotplug and allow-hotplug may actually be better in your case
[2:42] <bennypr0fane> MAssEy: I just updated Raspbina, it was aok
[2:43] <bennypr0fane> plugwash thanks
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[2:43] <bennypr0fane> I'll try and reboot with allow hotplug and see if it's still up
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[2:44] * plugwash tries to load the chromium core into gdb
[2:44] <plugwash> interestingly my chromium build seems to segfault on my imx board too
[2:45] <plugwash> so it seems it's not actually an armv7 contamination problem
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[2:56] <confuzled> does anyone have experience using quartz theme on openelec
[2:56] <confuzled> we are using openelec 3.0beta and its saying dependences not met when we are trying to install the theme from sd
[2:57] <techkid6> Hey, dumb question, I generated a keypair to use with my raspberry pi, where do I put the public key, just in etc/ssh?
[2:57] <dr_willis> every theme i saw on openelec and xbian and raspbmc said 'broken' ;)
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[2:58] <techkid6> And now I am getting an error trying to cd .. xD
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[2:59] <sraue> dr_willis, confuzled you are using the last beta? i f so remove/rename /storage/.xbmc/addons and addons.db in /storage/.xbmc/userdata/database (or so) and reboot, its because of the repo changes to the frodo repo
[2:59] <confuzled> you said rename the dir as well?
[2:59] <confuzled> or just the .db file
[2:59] <dr_willis> sraue: so even after getting the latest. change that file?
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[3:00] <dr_willis> Im using --> OpenELEC-RPi.arm-devel-20121124031454-r12577
[3:00] <sraue> yes because the old addons.db contains the old data
[3:00] <sraue> dr_willis, thats old... be have released 6 betas in this month
[3:01] <dr_willis> i cant keep track. ;)
[3:01] <sraue> http://openelec.tv/get-openelec
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[3:02] <dr_willis> yes.. but the daily build? or the beta link...
[3:02] <dr_willis> some guys had issues with the beta release booting the other day. daily build worked. (thats what i am using i think) downloading this one now.. OpenELEC 3.0 (Beta 6) - 2.95.6 - arm (85 MB) MD5
[3:03] <dr_willis> and the download is stuck.. :)
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[3:03] <Torikun> ooooh a new version
[3:04] <TAFB_ssd> what's so spiffy about openelec?
[3:04] <confuzled> i dont see /storage
[3:04] <dr_willis> TAFB_ssd: from what ive seen.. a differnt set of defaults on partioning
[3:04] <TAFB_ssd> lol
[3:04] <dr_willis> TAFB_ssd: and some internal pi config utils in xbmc itself
[3:04] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh, fancy
[3:04] <dr_willis> but the details of the internal stuff.. is most likely beyond me,.
[3:05] <dr_willis> im still trying to figure out xbmc playlists. ;P
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[3:06] <dr_willis> Well.. the opelenec download just went from 5 min.. to 50min.. whos hammering the servers! :) wait till im done.
[3:06] <dr_willis> back to 2 min! ;)
[3:07] <techkid6> Wow, I just realized, thats a lot of voices lol
[3:07] <TAFB_ssd> i hear lots of voices, they tell me to bad things
[3:07] <TAFB_ssd> like root hardware and void warranties :)
[3:07] <techkid6> So, for the SSH public key, do I just put it in /etc/ssh?
[3:08] <Hexxeh> it's tempting to just stick all this crap on google storage
[3:08] <Hexxeh> aren't the xbmc folks constantly getting ddosed etc?
[3:08] <Hexxeh> nothing app engine and gstorage can't handle i'm sure...
[3:09] <dr_willis> ok. getting ready to test --> OpenELEC-RPi.arm-2.95.6.tar.bz2
[3:10] <confuzled> what is openelec default password?
[3:10] <sraue> root:openelec
[3:11] <dr_willis> la da dee... making sd card...
[3:11] <sraue> why not updating?
[3:11] <techkid6> xD La dee da
[3:12] <dr_willis> bcasue ive seen many of the xbmc* pi things say updateing can confuse things.. ;)
[3:12] <dr_willis> Plus i was using the daily build . not the beta
[3:12] <sraue> but reinstalling overwrites your config...
[3:14] <techkid6> Wait, does the .pub key go into /ssh or the private key
[3:14] * techkid6 is deadly confused D:
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[3:15] <confuzled> for some reason its not lettinbg me cd into storage
[3:16] <confuzled> im root
[3:16] <xzr> private key is on the computer you use for logging in to places techkid6
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[3:16] <confuzled> i cd to / then try to cd to storage
[3:16] <confuzled> but it just goes to ~
[3:16] <xzr> public key is distributed to hosts you login to
[3:16] <dr_willis> yoru home is /storage/ ;)
[3:17] <confuzled> lolz haha
[3:17] <confuzled> ok thanks
[3:17] <techkid6> Ok
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[3:17] <techkid6> So then, would I copy the id_rsa.pub and uncomment the line in the config?
[3:17] <dr_willis> root ~/.xbmc/userdata/Database # ls
[3:18] <dr_willis> Addons15.db CDDB Epg7.db MyMusic32.db MyVideos75.db TV22.db Textures13.db ViewModes4.db
[3:18] <xzr> the pub key usually goes to authorized_hosts file
[3:18] <dr_willis> so... what needed to be removed now. ;)
[3:18] * dr_willis pages up
[3:18] <techkid6> I don't have an authorized_hosts file
[3:18] <xzr> can use ssh-copy-id for example
[3:18] <xzr> if your distro has that
[3:18] <techkid6> Nope
[3:18] <techkid6> Using Raspbian atm
[3:19] <sraue> dr_willis, after a new install you dont need to remove anything, because all its ne, otherwise: Addons*.db
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[3:19] <xzr> in any case you can just create the file
[3:19] <xzr> in the .ssh folder of the user you are loggin g in as
[3:19] <confuzled> do you HAVE to rename the addons folder
[3:19] <confuzled> or is deleting the .db file enough
[3:20] <techkid6> I have no .ssh folder in home/pi, only /etc/ssh.....
[3:20] <sraue> not sure if its enough, removing/renaming both should work
[3:21] <confuzled> (off to learn how to rename a dir lol
[3:21] <dr_willis> Hmm. tried to set my root password to somthing not everyone knows. ;) passwd not found
[3:22] <dr_willis> so what were we testing? Oh a theme.. quartz?
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[3:23] <techkid6> Wait, I got it
[3:23] <techkid6> thanks
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[3:25] <dr_willis> Hmm. I only see the 'Backrow' and 'Hybrid' themes . one other is tagged 'broken'
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[3:33] <bennypr0fane> how can I fix my terrible screen resolution in raspbian? system util says "failed to access monitor information" or such
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[3:34] <bsd1101> hdmi ?
[3:34] <bennypr0fane> dvi
[3:34] <confuzled> ok so i tried to iunstll quartz from zip, still dependencies not met
[3:34] <confuzled> do i need to do update first>
[3:34] <bsd1101> so you converted ?
[3:34] <confuzled> (update addons)
[3:35] <bennypr0fane> the screen is a samsung tv
[3:35] <bsd1101> but you still converted ?
[3:36] <bennypr0fane> what other tools can I use to set the res?
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[3:36] <bsd1101> are you on raspbian ?
[3:36] <confuzled> i am just looking for a minimalistic theme,
[3:36] <techkid6_> Um, I think I messed something up, the pi won't accept my private key when I try to log in, I have no access to anything
[3:36] <confuzled> im going to try installing a differnent theme that works then seeing if it adds the dependencies
[3:37] <bsd1101> tech, raspbian ?
[3:37] <bsd1101> and are you logging in through ssh or regular ?
[3:39] <TechDesk> which browser is available on archlinux ?
[3:39] <techkid6_> Yes, ssh
[3:39] <bsd1101> midori
[3:39] <TechDesk> thanks
[3:40] <techkid6_> Trying to log in to VNC and re-enable passwords....
[3:40] <bennypr0fane> is anyone using xbian? I'm trying to give it a network connection through the usb port from my phone
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[3:40] <bsd1101> techkid, did you follow the instructions in generating the key the first time you installed the OS ?
[3:40] <bsd1101> http://elinux.org/ArchLinux_Install_Guide
[3:41] <techkid6_> I am not using ArchLinux
[3:41] <techkid6_> I found the instructions online
[3:41] <bsd1101> what distro are you running on ur pi ?
[3:41] * TAFB_ssd hearts Arch linux
[3:42] <techkid6_> Raspbian Wheezy
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[3:42] <bsd1101> same here TAFB
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[3:42] <markbook> I run Arch on my dockstars and pogoplugs
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[3:42] <markbook> so far I'm using Raspbian on my pis
[3:43] <techkid6_> Ok, then for authorized_keys (back in) do I paste the CONTENTS of the key, or the name of the key file
[3:43] * markbook wants Fedora, but they're slow...
[3:43] <markbook> err... look at the current contents?
[3:43] <markbook> authorized_keys contains the key ID and public key string
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[3:44] <techkid6_> I had to make my own authorized_keys file ._. I don't see any of that, just the key I pasted in an attempt at this :(
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[4:29] <TechDesk> i have a problem with my resolution of screen
[4:30] <TechDesk> i have 1824x984 but i want 1920x1080
[4:30] <TechDesk> http://pastebin.archlinux.fr/454918
[4:30] <dr_willis> hmm.
[4:30] <dr_willis> overscan issues?
[4:31] <Aranel> anybody set-up a music server on their pi?
[4:31] <TechDesk> yes
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[4:32] <TechDesk> i have add disable_overscan=1 in cmdline.txt and reboot
[4:32] <TechDesk> the problem is not fixed
[4:35] <TechDesk> ah sorry it's in config.txt, not cmdline.txt
[4:38] <TechDesk> it's ok now
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[4:41] <UnaClocker> Aranel: What kind of "music server"? I've run Pianobar on mine to stream Pandora..
[4:41] <mdszy> has anyone had some weird issue with debconf and trying to update Raspbian?
[4:42] <mdszy> this is the error I get
[4:42] <mdszy> http://sprunge.us/BdYS
[4:42] <ParkerR_> :D One more tool added to my Pi http://jordanburgess.com/post/38986434391/raspberry-pi-airplay
[4:42] <mdszy> I get that when I run `sudo apt-get dist-upgrade`
[4:43] <UnaClocker> I've been doing Airplay with RaspBMC for months.
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[4:45] <ParkerR_> UnaClocker, But for any Raspbian install it's a good tutorial
[4:45] * UnaClocker nods.
[4:46] <dr_willis> i dont have any airplay devices. ;)
[4:46] <UnaClocker> Even android phones can do airplay.
[4:46] <dr_willis> thats just an audio only thing isent it>
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[4:47] <UnaClocker> Nope, it's usually video.
[4:47] <UnaClocker> Best way to play YouTube on a Pi..
[4:47] <ParkerR_> UnaClocker, Don't forget omxplayer + youtube-dl :P
[4:47] <dr_willis> Might have to look into it then.
[4:47] <dr_willis> But i tend to do dlna stuff
[4:48] <mdszy> any ideas?
[4:49] <ParkerR_> UnaClocker, :O So you can set the Pi as the Airplay receiver then open up the grooveshark webapp on an Iphone
[4:50] <UnaClocker> Never heard of grooveshark, but that's cool.
[4:53] <mdszy> so apparently debconf just isn't working, at all
[4:54] <ParkerR_> :D http://i.imgur.com/UWewd.png
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[4:56] <mdszy> meh, maybe I'll give Arch Linux ARM a shot.
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[4:58] <mdszy> Does anyone know if Arch linux ARM has ssh login enabled by default like Raspbian does?
[4:59] <ParkerR_> :D Streaming music and still only using 60mb of memory http://i.imgur.com/SlKku.png
[4:59] <TechDesk> with which video driver i can have better performances on archlinux ?
[4:59] <dr_willis> http://elinux.org/RPi_Distributions seems to say arch has ssh. but i guess thatss not saying its on or off by 'default' ;)
[5:01] <TechDesk> oO
[5:01] <TechDesk> i use xf86-video-fbdev actually
[5:01] <TechDesk> with xfce4
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[5:20] <bsd1101> mdszy if no one answered your question, yes it does
[5:21] <mdszy> bsd1101, thanks!
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[5:32] <dr_willis> Hmm. theres getting to be a lot of little mini android type pcs out. :) was picking up some pi parts on amazon and saw a dozen of the things.
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[5:33] <clear`> yea
[5:33] <Hodapp> dr_willis: I have an MK802. Neat little device, cheap little device, faster-than-a-RasPi, runs Android okay... but I'd say the Pi blows it out of the water for build quality and for good Linux support.
[5:34] <clear`> my pi is pissing me off, might pick one of the android ones up
[5:34] <dr_willis> saw a few that do xbmc. but then say they are android.. so xbmc has been ported to android?
[5:34] <dr_willis> or was it just sort of marketing confusion.
[5:34] <Hodapp> dr_willis: I do believe so. Whether or not this means they'll run the XBMC port of Android is another matter completely.
[5:34] <akiwiguy> well, xbmc port to android isn't exactly hard
[5:35] <Hodapp> akiwiguy: "not hard" and "been done" are two different categories though.
[5:35] <KeatonT> I've always wondered what xmbc's primary language was.
[5:35] <akiwiguy> there is afaik an xbmc port for android already.
[5:35] <dr_willis> Going to have to train the wife to use xbmc someday. ;)
[5:35] <akiwiguy> i'm tempted to try and get one of those Android mini PCs
[5:36] <Hodapp> akiwiguy, dr_willis: The MK802 devices are quite cheap and do Android somewhat well.
[5:36] <akiwiguy> and build an arch linux userland for it manually
[5:36] <dr_willis> i saw one on amazon for $35 i think. but i figured ill wait a bit.
[5:36] <Hodapp> however there is a newer one - 805 maybe? - that is supposedly a better buy.
[5:36] <dr_willis> saw a $100 one that did xbmc, and had a spot for a internal hard drive.. that would be about what the wife needs.
[5:36] <dr_willis> if she could figure out the remote. :)
[5:36] <Hodapp> dr_willis: link?
[5:37] <KeatonT> http://mirrors.xbmc.org/releases/android/xbmc-12.0-Frodo_rc2-armeabi-v7a.apk
[5:37] <dr_willis> you would ask afafter i closed my browser
[5:37] <Hodapp> :P
[5:37] <Hodapp> BOOKMARK IT, FOOL
[5:37] <Hodapp> I wonder if my MK802 will do XBMC... it's a bit sluggish, and my movies are on network shares
[5:37] <Hodapp> I did play Youtube just fine on it.
[5:37] <dr_willis> http://www.amazon.com/Rikomagic-Generation-Android-Google-Player/dp/B0091UHMHO/ref=pd_luc_sim_01_03_t_lh
[5:37] <dr_willis> Rikomagic MK802 II New Generation Mini Android 4.0 PC Google TV Box HD IPTV Player
[5:38] <dr_willis> Price: $36.99 &
[5:38] <dr_willis> You Save: $163.00 (82%)
[5:38] <dr_willis> ;)
[5:38] <Hodapp> yup, that's what I have, just an earlier version
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[5:39] <Hodapp> https://plus.google.com/118362595868371326646/posts/1HjihbnxJ8t :)
[5:39] <dr_willis> some of these buzzwords/marketing seems.. odd.. like this one...
[5:39] <dr_willis> http://www.amazon.com/G-Box-Midnight-Android-Box-Streaming/dp/B009BWC3J4/ref=pd_luc_sim_01_01_t_lh
[5:39] <dr_willis> Full XBMC Hardware Decoding Support for 1080p High Definition Playback!
[5:39] <Hodapp> uhh, the first thing you should do with the marketing is completely disregard it
[5:39] <dr_willis> the use of the term.. 'Full xbmc' seems... weird..
[5:40] <Hodapp> the MK802 is "supposed" to be able to do 2160p.
[5:40] <dr_willis> Fully Hackable - System comes Pre-Rooted and ready for anything you can think of!
[5:40] <dr_willis> ;P
[5:40] <Hodapp> out of the box it does 720p
[5:40] <Hodapp> you can mess with a config file, or a firmware update, and get 1080p I believe
[5:42] <dr_willis> Hmm. Mini Computer,1080P Dual-core Android 4.1 TV Box MK808 Mini PC RK3066 1GB DRR3+8GB Nand Flash Black By ownshop $54
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[5:42] <dr_willis> its sort of scary when the item picture seems taken wth a cellphone.. and dosent even show the item...
[5:42] <dr_willis> http://www.amazon.com/Computer-Dual-core-Android-RK3066-ownshop/dp/B009PJ3AZ4/ref=pd_cp_e_2
[5:43] <Hodapp> there's somebody else on here that has an MK808, not sure who
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[5:43] <dr_willis> Hmm. with one running actual Android.. it could use the netflix android app.. that would be a bonus for the wife.
[5:43] <dr_willis> Looking to replace her very old O!-Play player.
[5:43] <Hodapp> mine will not run the Netflix app. I don't know why. It quits immediately.
[5:44] <Hodapp> be aware of this.
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[5:46] <Hodapp> some of them had overheating issues (and mine would hardcrash like a boss not when I was pegging the CPUs and compiling something - but when I was using the Wifi)
[5:46] <dr_willis> It could be netflix app is checking the device. On my older android i had to track down a hacked netflix for it. then they later updated netflix
[5:46] <Hodapp> but I think they fixed this in rev 2 and onward
[5:46] <Hodapp> dr_willis: this was long after Netflix had the device check, I'm fairly sure.
[5:46] <dr_willis> Netflix would be a nice bonus. but i imagine her next tv will ahve it built in.
[5:47] <dr_willis> almost every tv in the house has netflix built in now.
[5:47] <Hodapp> I'd still rather have a little device that could do it
[5:47] <dr_willis> http://www.amazon.com/Companion-802-11n-Ethernet-Official-Sponsor/dp/B0088IGPM8/ref=pd_sim_e_8 has a remote i think she can handle. ;)
[5:47] <dr_willis> but its $100
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[5:49] <dr_willis> my 'main' thing i want is 'crunchyroll' since it seems that with my BoxeeBox - the crunchyroll app/channel is now dead.
[5:49] <dr_willis> But the boxee so far can still do netflix.
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[5:50] <Hodapp> nice
[5:50] <Torikun> any news on minecraft?
[5:50] <mbalho> mojang said they hit some bugs and it got pushed back to jan/feb
[5:50] <Torikun> oh
[5:51] <UnaClocker> Yeah, it got delayed because of GCC issues.
[5:51] <Torikun> dang my daughter realy eanted it tonight
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[5:51] <mbalho> meanwhile i started writing minecraft in javascript MUAHAHA
[5:51] <Torikun> lok
[5:52] <Torikun> slowcraft
[5:52] <mbalho> fastenoughcraft :)
[5:52] <Torikun> lol as long as it plays
[5:52] <Torikun> usnt therr a browser version?
[5:52] <mbalho> using java yea
[5:52] <mbalho> but not javascript e.g. http://webglsamples.googlecode.com/hg/google-io/2011/lots-of-objects-google.html
[5:52] <Torikun> maybe it work over vnc with chromne?
[5:53] <Torikun> but 3d does not work over vnc though
[5:53] <Torikun> need to be physically logged in x
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[6:09] <ParkerR_> :D
[6:09] <ParkerR_> All on the Pi http://i.imgur.com/41hCa.png
[6:14] <akiwiguy> hmm. weechat in tmux is incredibly slow on my Pi
[6:15] <ParkerR_> Using it in scrren here
[6:15] <akiwiguy> overclocked?
[6:15] <ParkerR_> Speed is what I expect from it being on a Pi and over ssh
[6:15] <ParkerR_> 800mhz
[6:15] <akiwiguy> mm
[6:16] <TAFB_ssd> only 800? lol
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[6:16] <akiwiguy> mine's running at 700
[6:16] <ParkerR_> Does everything I want it to at 800mhz
[6:16] <akiwiguy> and i have a really bad sd card
[6:17] <ParkerR_> Games, music streaming, IRC, youtube,
[6:17] <TAFB_ssd> lol
[6:17] <akiwiguy> and other things running in background (lighttpd, dhcpd, tftpd)
[6:17] <ParkerR_> Aye
[6:17] <ParkerR_> I do have lighttpd on it
[6:18] <akiwiguy> i don't really want to overclock mine given it's running network services
[6:18] <akiwiguy> i'm screwed if dhcpd goes down >_>
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[6:19] <dr_willis> Hmm. weechat seems to run ok here. but im not in tmux with it.
[6:19] <dr_willis> I use znc on the pi and go weechat -> znc
[6:19] <akiwiguy> distro?
[6:19] <dr_willis> rasbian
[6:19] <akiwiguy> oic
[6:19] <akiwiguy> yeah i've got znc running on my linode and using that in weechat lol
[6:20] <dr_willis> i can then use my androd phone and use andchat -> znc on the pi -> here ;)
[6:20] <akiwiguy> i don't want to move that to the Pi given the instability of my internet connection
[6:20] <akiwiguy> yeah i do that all the time
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[6:23] <akiwiguy> http://i.imgur.com/5aAXd.png that cpu usage bar
[6:25] <Torikun> :-) what do you use your linode for
[6:26] <ParkerR_> akiwiguy: http://i.imgur.com/Li3PY.png
[6:26] <ParkerR_> And thats with IRC and streaming some audio to it
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[6:27] <akiwiguy> Torikun, web server, znc, TeamSpeak 3 server, used to have a Minecraft server on it too
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[6:27] <akiwiguy> also runs jenkins-ci and does some stuff there
[6:27] <Torikun> nice
[6:28] <akiwiguy> ParkerR_: niec
[6:28] <Torikun> did minecraft use lots of bandwith
[6:28] <akiwiguy> i really need to overclock mine to 800mhz i think
[6:28] <akiwiguy> Torikun: not a huge amount
[6:29] <Torikun> i wish they were cheaper
[6:29] <Torikun> linode was about 20
[6:29] <akiwiguy> yeah $20/m
[6:30] <Torikun> the pi easilly replaced what i had on my old linode lol
[6:30] <akiwiguy> haha
[6:30] <akiwiguy> i don't think my Pi would be able to do everything the linode does
[6:30] <akiwiguy> but it still does what i need it to do
[6:31] <Torikun> im running dns dhhcp web mysql email torrent server on mine
[6:31] <akiwiguy> i want to get a Pi, a small LCD, and some sensors and stuff, mount it on my bike
[6:31] <akiwiguy> that
[6:31] <akiwiguy> that's gonna be my next project i think
[6:31] <akiwiguy> and cool
[6:32] <Torikun> tethered to cell phone for net?
[6:32] <akiwiguy> i've got a USB 3G modem
[6:32] <dr_willis> I need to build one into my Lunchbox. ;)
[6:32] <Torikun> its expensive adding the lcd and other componetds
[6:32] <akiwiguy> yeah
[6:32] <akiwiguy> probably need to get a job first
[6:32] <akiwiguy> >_>
[6:32] <Torikun> cheaper buying a tablet
[6:33] <Torikun> and more useful
[6:33] <dr_willis> i got 3 tablets allready. ;)
[6:33] <dr_willis> its not as cool.
[6:33] <Torikun> tablets faster
[6:33] <dr_willis> I can have Pie In my Pi! if i build it into my Lunchbox.
[6:34] <Torikun> Lol
[6:34] <Torikun> glue your tablet to it
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[6:34] <Torikun> done
[6:35] <akiwiguy> see, i wouldnt be putting a touchscreen or anything on mine
[6:35] <akiwiguy> it'd be permanently mounted as a HUD thing
[6:35] <Torikun> for?
[6:35] <dr_willis> a HUD with USB powered Missle Launchers!
[6:35] <Torikun> lol
[6:36] <akiwiguy> i think the aim would be pretty shit on a moving bike :P
[6:36] <Torikun> lol
[6:36] <Gorroth> neural network
[6:37] <Gorroth> then perhaps it'd be good if you've trained it right
[6:37] <akiwiguy> haha
[6:37] <Torikun> i think the best use of a pi is robotos
[6:37] <Torikun> or appliances
[6:38] <Torikun> wastingit as a desktop/server
[6:38] <akiwiguy> i needed a low power server for core network stuff anyway
[6:38] <akiwiguy> so using a Pi as a dhcp server among other things suits
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[6:39] <Torikun> do you use two nics for your dhcp
[6:40] <Torikun> or one
[6:41] <Torikun> ?
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[6:41] <akiwiguy> just one
[6:42] <akiwiguy> it's not acting as a router, just a dhcp server
[6:42] <Torikun> i had some issues with running it with my isp router
[6:42] <akiwiguy> issuing ip addresses, serving pxeboot files, not giving a shit since late 2012
[6:42] <Gorroth> yes, i'm going to be setting up one of my Pis for DNS
[6:42] <akiwiguy> i disabled my isp's router dhcp server and set up static ip on the pi
[6:42] <Torikun> OK wrotre a guide on thast
[6:43] <Gorroth> and irssi server via screen
[6:43] <Torikun> ah twire wont let me do thst
[6:43] <Torikun> my 2wire wont let me turn off dhcp
[6:43] <akiwiguy> damn
[6:43] <Torikun> dns works grest though
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[6:47] <Torikun> http://rushersdomain.blogspot.com/2012/10/create-dhcp-and-dns-server-with-redhat.html
[6:47] <Torikun> gr
[6:47] <Torikun> gorroth thats for you lol
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[6:47] <Torikun> atouk how you doing long time no see
[6:48] <atouk> still here
[6:49] <atouk> mostly being a pest in the channel between giving sage advice
[6:49] <Torikun> lol
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[6:58] <Gorroth> i already know how to run dns and dhcp
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[8:12] <shiftplusone> quiet in here O_o
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[8:13] <SpeedEvil> everyone is at the foam party.
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[8:14] <shiftplusone> ah yes, of course
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[8:14] <torgo> Howdy
[8:14] <torgo> I have my pi hooked up to a lapdock, got tired of unplugging the thing to turn it off
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[8:15] <torgo> So I installed an inline switch in a usb cable
[8:15] <torgo> re-connected green, white, and black
[8:15] <torgo> The switch works great to turn it on but I can't type
[8:15] <torgo> Any ideas?
[8:15] <shiftplusone> And it worked fine before? O_o
[8:15] <torgo> The cable worked before yeah
[8:16] <shiftplusone> I've seen a few people saying their lapdock keyboard doesn't work, no idea why though.
[8:16] <torgo> I'm actually on it now
[8:16] <torgo> Different cable obviously
[8:16] <shiftplusone> maybe you'll find something in the "so i've made a raspberrypi laptop" thread on the forum.
[8:16] <torgo> Bleh
[8:16] <torgo> It's like 20+ pages now D:
[8:17] <torgo> Wonder if anyone would notice if I posted there...
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[8:18] <shiftplusone> I would imagine that the folks with the lapdocks would. I am yet to get the right usb adapter. Have had the lapdock for ages... to lazy.
[8:19] <shiftplusone> any chance the switch has a resistance which causes a sufficient voltage drop and stop the keyboard from working?
[8:20] <ParkerR_> So
[8:20] <torgo> No idea
[8:20] <ParkerR_> This happened finally http://i.imgur.com/YLXld.png
[8:20] <ParkerR_> With mouse support
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[8:21] <torgo> shiftplusone: how would I find that out? Do I need a multimeter or something?
[8:23] <shiftplusone> yeah
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[8:28] <Nunnsy> Hey guys, anybody here a php/apache guru when it comes to Raspbian? I've been trying to use both exec() and shell_exec() to run a shell file and it isn't working at the moment...
[8:28] <atouk> need to add to sudoers
[8:29] <atouk> http://www.atouk.com/wordpress/?page_id=238
[8:29] <atouk> download the status page zip and follow the readme
[8:30] <torgo> exit
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[8:32] <Nunnsy> Just had a look, don't quite understand sorry. This is what I have http://i.imgur.com/Q1w3n.png?1
[8:34] <atouk> did you edit your sudoers?
[8:34] <Nunnsy> I don't quite understand what you mean by that, sorry...
[8:35] <Nunnsy> I read the readme, but it didn't help, I'll check again though
[8:35] <Nunnsy> ohh I see
[8:35] <atouk> users need permissions to run certain commands. as far as the pi is concerened, apache is just another user, so you have to give it sudo permissions in the sudoers file
[8:35] <Nunnsy> sorry, I'll do that now
[8:35] <Nunnsy> gotcha
[8:36] <atouk> and you can take the "sudo" out of both of those lines since apache will ahve sudo privilages
[8:37] <atouk> after editing the file, a restart may be necessary. i forget
[8:37] <Nunnsy> Got it, will do that now. Is it possible to do that for the "pi" user aswell so sudo'ing isn't required?
[8:38] <atouk> yus
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[8:38] <Pickley> Hey
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[8:39] <ParkerR_> Hey
[8:40] <Pickley> Anyone know much about this http://www.bitwizard.nl/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=34&products_id=115
[8:40] <Pickley> is it preassembled?
[8:40] <Nunnsy> Okay, last silly question, how exactly do I add one, I'm looking at the readme and it's not giving me step by step instructions... I'm looking in the sudoers.d directory and there's only a readme which is confusing me
[8:41] <atouk> from the prompt sudo visudo
[8:41] <Nunnsy> got it, thank-you again
[8:42] <atouk> scroll down to #includedir /etc/sudoers.d
[8:42] <atouk> under that
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[8:42] <atouk> add the following two lines
[8:42] <atouk> pi ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[8:42] <atouk> www-data ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[8:42] <Nunnsy> awesome
[8:42] <Nunnsy> done
[8:42] <Nunnsy> thank-you a lot, I'll restart the pi now
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[8:44] * gordonDrogon waves
[8:44] <gordonDrogon> moring from rainy Devon.
[8:44] <atouk> hey gordon
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[8:44] <Gene-> so, I finally get my pi connected to the internet
[8:44] <Pickley> c:
[8:45] <Gene-> and now I'm at the point where I get to figure out dpkg because the app store wants me to give them my email and a bunch of crap just to download libreoffice
[8:46] <Gene-> pretty awesome otherwise
[8:46] <Pickley> Guess I will email BitWizard to see if it is full assembled
[8:46] <gordonDrogon> Gene-, sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[8:46] <gordonDrogon> Pickley, hard to tell - http://www.bitwizard.nl/wiki/index.php/User_Interface has a blank section on assembly.
[8:47] <Pickley> gordonDrogon: thats why I've asked :P
[8:47] <Gene-> oh great, I fat fingered the text and didn't see it, this does have apt-get
[8:47] <Pickley> Hoping its preassembled as I don't have time to assemble one currently
[8:47] <Pickley> :P
[8:47] <gordonDrogon> Gene-, however I'd not suggest trying to the libroffice on a Pi - it's a bit big...
[8:47] <Pickley> Also wondering whether I should get I2C or SPI
[8:47] <gordonDrogon> Gene-, it's Debian, so apt-get, aptitude, dselect, dpkg, etc. are all there.
[8:47] <Pickley> doesn't matter much I think
[8:48] <gordonDrogon> Gene-, if this is the initial connect, then best to do apt-get update/upgrade/dist-upgrade at some point too...
[8:48] <Gene-> yeah, you're right in retrospect
[8:48] <Gene-> what's good for lightweight editing but has more formatting options than vim?
[8:49] <Pickley> emacs >.>
[8:49] <Pickley> :D
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[8:50] <gordonDrogon> what sort of formatting options? (and editing what, code, text?)
[8:50] <Gene-> I mean more like abiword
[8:50] <Gene-> the things that are in the L.O suite
[8:51] <gordonDrogon> I use vim & LaTeX ..
[8:51] <Gene-> I'd be happy with spreadsheets and text editing
[8:51] <gordonDrogon> you could always just install abiword ...
[8:52] <Gene-> when you said libreoffice was a bit big, you meant in terms of ram consumed, right? I have a 32 gig card in this sucker
[8:53] <gordonDrogon> yea, ram.
[8:53] <gordonDrogon> although if you have a 512MB model, then it might be ok.
[8:53] <Gene-> also sorry if I'm a bit cheeky, I appreciate your help. It's just 3 am here
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[8:54] <Gene-> what do you recommend for replacing libreoffice with then?
[8:54] <Gene-> abiword works fine?
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[8:56] <gordonDrogon> 8am here.
[8:56] <gordonDrogon> I don't know - I really don't use those tools myself.
[8:57] <atouk> that makes it 3 am here. guess i should go to bed
[8:57] <gordonDrogon> vim+latex is my 'word processor'. I run up Libreoffice very rarely when I need a spreadsheet.
[8:57] <gordonDrogon> but I do it on my desktop Linux box, not a Pi...
[8:57] <Gene-> sure..
[8:58] <gordonDrogon> however 8am is breakfast time here.
[8:58] <gordonDrogon> and my bacon won't cook itself!
[8:58] <Gene-> ok, thanks for the help
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[9:38] <Nunnsy> atouk, after all of that it still isn't working
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[9:39] <Nunnsy> It doesn't fire a process from the exec in php
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[9:41] <Nunnsy> can anyone help me? I'm trying to use php to run a shell script and it isn't working :(
[9:42] <arnorhs> Nunnsy: i'd recommend #php
[9:42] <Nunnsy> Alright, will try, thanks
[9:42] <arnorhs> btw.. are you getting an error?
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[9:43] <gordonDrogon> Nunnsy, sorted? How are you calling the script?
[9:44] <Nunnsy> exec('sudo sh /home/pi/minidlna/restart.sh');
[9:45] <Nunnsy> No errors
[9:45] <Nunnsy> but it doesn't run the script
[9:45] <Nunnsy> I've added www-data to my sudoers
[9:45] <Nunnsy> still nothing
[9:45] <gordonDrogon> I'd do it the other way round - put the sudo command inside the shell script.
[9:46] <ParkerR_> Try sudo adduser www-data sudo
[9:46] <ParkerR_> Adds the www-data user to the group sudo
[9:46] <gordonDrogon> so you can start by making sure the script runs - echo sudo reboot, then take out the echo ...
[9:46] <gordonDrogon> so chmod +x the script, and system(" /home/pi/minidlna/restart.sh") (or exec();
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[9:47] <Nunnsy> Well, the script I'm running has sudos in there but I still need it to run correctly, I'll try adding to the group now
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[9:48] <gordonDrogon> the way I do it from php is to have a suid C wrapper program - similar to apaches - then be paraoind about making checks, etc. before running the program.
[9:49] <ParkerR_> Nunnsy: Will have to reboot
[9:49] <gordonDrogon> but I have many public facing servers, so need/want to be as paranoid as possible just in-case someone hacks in - gives them less ammunition.
[9:49] <Nunnsy> Got it
[9:50] <Nunnsy> and smart ideas, but it's a protected media server.. no need for that security
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[9:54] <SpeedEvil> or just have a writer that is suid, and dumps state to a named pipe when read
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[11:18] <str0be> I've set up my RPi up as a CUPS and so far its worked quite well, I can actually use AirPrint on my iPad now :P
[11:18] <Coburn> I'm going to set up one of my R-Pis as a pr0n blocker
[11:18] <Coburn> well
[11:18] <Coburn> okay, maybe not a blocker as per se but
[11:18] <Coburn> you know...
[11:18] <Coburn> advert blocker
[11:18] <Coburn> privoxy
[11:19] <gordonDrogon> str0be, CUPS was developed by Apple, so I'd hope it would work well (assuming AirPrint is an iPple thing...)
[11:20] <gordonDrogon> Coburn, not easier to install adblock+ into your browser?
[11:21] <Coburn> yeah
[11:21] <Coburn> but I have 3 R-Pis kickin' round
[11:21] <Coburn> See the issue?
[11:22] <str0be> Avahi was the biggets issue when setting up CUPs though.
[11:23] <gordonDrogon> Coburn, I have 3 pi's too, and a separate linux router, but .. maybe I'm lazy then.. but adblock+ works fine for me (along with ghostery, cookie blocker, and flashblock...
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[11:29] <linuxstb> gordonDrogon: I thought CUPs pre-dated Apple, but was later incorporated into OS X and bought by Apple.
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[11:32] <Draylor> yup, it had 10 years or more pre-apple
[11:33] <gordonDrogon> linuxstb, Hm. Looks like it. I only started looking at it recently (as in last year), so don't really know its history. lpd was good enough for me ...
[11:34] <gordonDrogon> it goes against almost everything I liked about unix/linux though - it's large & bloated. Has it's own built-in web server, hooks into too many other libraries, etc.
[11:34] <Coburn> gordonDrogon: granted, i use adblock+
[11:34] <Coburn> but problem is
[11:34] <gordonDrogon> however I know I'm fighting a lowing batter - just throw another CPU and Gig of RAM at it and you'll be fine.. (etc).
[11:34] <Coburn> what about android devices?
[11:34] <martk100> When I attempt to use a touchscreen and virtual keyboard. I get constantly repeated keys because the mouse pointer is on the key. In my previous life in electrical control we used a peice of code called a one shot to prevent this sort of thing how do I "one shot" the virtual keyboard?
[11:34] <gordonDrogon> Cue tales of 4 Yorkshire men...
[11:35] <Coburn> martk100: disable mouse pointer
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[11:35] <gordonDrogon> Coburn, no idea. same as when you're using 3G data on them not at home, I guess.. Oddly enough hasn't been enough of an irritation to me to do anything about it on my one android device - yet...
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[11:36] <Coburn> I refuse to use anything with ads in it
[11:36] <Coburn> Call me tightass
[11:36] <Coburn> but you're getting a profile from me
[11:36] <Coburn> not gettings*
[11:36] <Coburn> getting**
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[11:37] <gordonDrogon> I know, I hate it too. Really hard to get away from now. There are even some sites that will not work unless you enable cookies too.
[11:37] <gordonDrogon> it's getting a chore to remember to clear cookies, etc. too.
[11:37] <gordonDrogon> Even fscking google gave me a personalised google doodle on the day I told them my birthday was!
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[11:38] <Lobs> sounds better than the dog leaving a doodle in your bed!
[11:38] <Coburn> lol
[11:38] <Coburn> or a piddle
[11:38] <Coburn> brb gotta fetch 3g router from window
[11:39] <Aranel> anyone using Dynamic Memory Split (CMA)?
[11:40] <Coburn> CMA != DMA
[11:41] <Coburn> wait
[11:41] <Coburn> DMS*
[11:41] <Aranel> noticed it too, but it's written on elinux.org page as this
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[11:44] * Aranel /usr/sbin/squeezeboxserver consuming a whopping %38.8 memory, yay.
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[12:08] <Phrewfuf> hm, how can i make raspbian mount an sftp share? sshfs installed and tried adding a line to fstab, but it didn't work
[12:09] <TechDesk> can you pastebin your fstab ?
[12:10] <linuxstb> Have you tried mounting it manually - i.e. sshfs user@host:/path mountpoint
[12:10] <linuxstb> Is sftp even the same thing as sshfs?
[12:11] <Phrewfuf> linuxstb: zes, it is
[12:11] <Phrewfuf> yes*
[12:11] <Lobs> linuxstb: they both use ssh in the same way to log in and transfer files.
[12:11] <TechDesk> yes
[12:11] <linuxstb> OK ;)
[12:12] <TechDesk> pastebin your fstab file
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[12:12] <TechDesk> replace passwords by XXXXX
[12:12] <TechDesk> :)
[12:13] <Phrewfuf> i have no x here :P
[12:13] <TechDesk> useless
[12:13] <TechDesk> ssh root@your_raspberry_pi_ip
[12:14] <Lobs> there is a command line util to pastebin files, i forget its name now.
[12:14] <TechDesk> nano /etc/fstab
[12:14] <TechDesk> and copy, paste
[12:14] * Lobs looks a TechDesk
[12:14] <Lobs> why would you use nano? vi is much better.
[12:14] <TechDesk> :p
[12:14] <Phrewfuf> one could just cat it
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[12:15] <linuxstb> Phrewfuf: Can you mount it manually?
[12:15] <Phrewfuf> and the line was just sshfs shack:pass@shack.shack /mnt/shack
[12:16] <TechDesk> ah
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[12:16] <TechDesk> problem
[12:16] <Lobs> that does not seem valid for fstab to me,
[12:16] <TechDesk> the syntax is wrong
[12:16] <TechDesk> :)
[12:17] <Phrewfuf> yea i thought so...effin tutorials always outdated >.<
[12:17] <TechDesk> # <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
[12:17] <Lobs> fstab has never used anything like that
[12:17] <linuxstb> Phrewfuf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHFS has an example fstab line
[12:18] <Phrewfuf> and yes i can mount it manually
[12:19] <Lobs> Phrewfuf: are you sure the tutorial you were following didnt add the line to say rc.local to mount at boot time rather than fstab?
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[12:20] <Phrewfuf> Lobs: yup, pretty sure it said "add that line to fstab <insert what i posted before>"
[12:20] <Lobs> Phrewfuf: give the idiot who made that tutorial a kick in the nads then.
[12:21] <TechDesk> :>
[12:21] <gordonDrogon> why sshfs and not not nfs?
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[12:21] <Lobs> gordonDrogon: because it is fun to use all your cpu to transfer files!
[12:22] <Phrewfuf> wait what? :D
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> ssh is cpu heavy on the pi.
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> (most encryption is )-:
[12:22] <Phrewfuf> sshfs is the one i know is working...havent tried nfs though
[12:23] <Lobs> nfs is quite a bit more complicated to setup on the server side
[12:23] <linuxstb> Really? It's just adding a line to /etc/exports
[12:23] <gordonDrogon> Hm. apt-get install nfs-kernel-server, then one line in /etc/exports
[12:23] <gordonDrogon> mostly.
[12:23] <akiwiguy> samba? :3
[12:23] <Lobs> linuxstb: which is more complicated than using an existing user to ssh in ;-P
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[12:23] <linuxstb> Lobs: Yes, but not "quite a bit more complicated" ;)
[12:23] <Lobs> linuxstb: and of course you need kernel support or modules loaded for nfs
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[12:24] <Toothpick> it looks like i am going to run out of space on my RPi installing xbmc on Gentoo, is there an option to easily see what's taking so much space?
[12:25] <linuxstb> Lobs: Sure, but again, that shouldn't be an issue unless you've built your own kernel.
[12:25] <Coburn> Todo: Make server backup, because Ubuntu is bloat
[12:25] <Coburn> Debian ftw.
[12:25] <ParkerR_> Aww poor little guy http://i.imgur.com/37if6.png
[12:26] <Lobs> linuxstb: well i have no idea what different distros put in ther kernels, but whatever ;-)
[12:26] <gordonDrogon> can you people actually read that screen with so many colours and low contrast?
[12:27] <ParkerR_> gordonDrogon: Is that in reply to my image?
[12:27] <Lobs> on my monitors here it is readable
[12:27] <gordonDrogon> ParkerR_, yes...
[12:27] <ParkerR_> I can read it just fine. Bad eyes? :P
[12:28] <gordonDrogon> no worse than the usual age related issues (ie. I need reading glasses).
[12:28] <gordonDrogon> I'm not colour blind either - just dyslexic.
[12:28] <ParkerR_> I prefer this over a light background any day
[12:28] <Lobs> gordonDrogon: well make sure you put your hearing aid in when you try to read that screen ;-P
[12:28] <gordonDrogon> I can read it, it just takes time.
[12:29] <gordonDrogon> Lobs, wouldn't help - my ears have the same problem - when they were tested the doc. said I have a "processing problem" ...
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[12:29] <Lobs> ahhh you need a between the ears aid? ;-)
[12:29] <ParkerR_> gordonDrogon: I can give you more color :P http://i.imgur.com/i4d3U.png
[12:30] <gordonDrogon> Gah! My eyes! The Goggles! They do nothing...
[12:30] <ParkerR_> Haha
[12:30] <Lobs> what an ugly irc layout
[12:30] <TAFB_ssd> mornin peeps :)
[12:30] <Lobs> do you really need to see every user all the time?
[12:30] <Phrewfuf> hm, whz can/t i mount nfs?
[12:31] * Lobs points Phrewfuf at linuxstb
[12:31] <ParkerR_> Lobs: It's the remnants of xchat
[12:31] <Lobs> he said it would be easy for you! ;-P
[12:31] <Lobs> ParkerR_: a waste of time in a console application if you ask me.
[12:31] <ParkerR_> I didn't want to give up xchat but wanted to go console
[12:31] <Phrewfuf> Lobs: well, i tried mountinig it but it's just sitting there doing nothing
[12:32] <ParkerR_> So I just remade xchat XD
[12:32] <ParkerR_> Lobs: It's nice to know who's around
[12:32] <Lobs> Phrewfuf: have you configured the server properly?
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[12:32] <ParkerR_> And the mouse works here too
[12:33] <Lobs> ParkerR_: thats what /w is for.
[12:33] <ParkerR_> I can scroll and click on channels
[12:33] <Phrewfuf> Lobs: i have no access to the server, but AFAIR it had an NFS share
[12:33] <Lobs> mouse?!?!? who uses the mouse in a console app.... thats just wrong!
[12:33] <ParkerR_> Lobs: I suck at keyboard shortcuts
[12:33] <Lobs> Phrewfuf: give up then, use sshfs and see if you can disable encryption if you dont need it.
[12:34] <Coburn> sshfs ftw
[12:34] <Coburn> BE WARNED
[12:34] <Lobs> ParkerR_: i live by them, esp when i am on one of my many old terminals with no mouse ;-)
[12:34] <Coburn> if the SSH LInk gets d/c'd
[12:34] <chithead> sshfs is very slow
[12:34] <Coburn> then you WILL get a hang and memory leak when you do either LS or DF
[12:35] <Coburn> I crashed a VPS in Japan doing that
[12:35] <Coburn> sshfsing into a US VPS to put files on that VPS
[12:35] <Coburn> the pipe got cut
[12:35] <Lobs> poor japanese, prolly ran around for a few hours trying to work out what happend.
[12:35] <Coburn> It was a Linode, so my linode started emailing me
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[12:36] <Phrewfuf> :D
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[12:36] <Phrewfuf> sounds like fun
[12:36] <Lobs> oh, so not "all your memory are belong to us!"?
[12:36] <Coburn> I had to reboot
[12:36] <Coburn> and everything was merry agian
[12:36] <drivelights> I had a sshfs session connected to my webhost for days, glad something bad didn't happen
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[12:36] <drivelights> from my raspi
[12:37] <Coburn> the memleak is because of a loop
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[12:37] <Coburn> df / ls tries to look at the link
[12:37] <Coburn> but the link is broken
[12:37] <Coburn> so
[12:37] <Coburn> you can see
[12:37] <Coburn> "OMG! ITS A MOUNT!"
[12:37] <Lobs> Coburn: maybe it has been fixed in recent versions of ssh etc
[12:37] <Coburn> *it's actually dodgy mount*
[12:38] <drivelights> I think i've experienced that with a CIFS mount after I shut down my windows PC
[12:38] <Coburn> 30 seconds later
[12:38] <Coburn> repeat
[12:38] <Coburn> until memory is full and OOM kicks in
[12:38] <drivelights> had to reboot the raspi to recover, not sure if there's a better way
[12:38] <Lobs> i like how the japanese server sounds chinese to me ;-)
[12:39] <Coburn> Funnily enought
[12:39] <Coburn> my VPS in Tokyo was English
[12:39] <Coburn> No Japanese Debian there
[12:39] <Coburn> But hey, that's my story.
[12:39] <Coburn> just be careful with sshfs
[12:39] <Phrewfuf> hm, sshfs screws with me-.-
[12:40] <Coburn> and if you get slow transfers, there's options you can fiddle
[12:40] <Coburn> there's one that I think does speed over compression
[12:40] <Coburn> problem is, the compression is cpu intensive
[12:40] <ParkerR_> Lobs: And as for using the mouse. I blame my xchat habits :P
[12:40] <Phrewfuf> why on earth can't i access the darn directory
[12:40] <drivelights> thanks for the tip Coburn I will avoid leaving sshfs connected for extended periods from now on
[12:40] <Coburn> Phrewfuf: what dir?
[12:40] <Lobs> Coburn: it's the encryption more than any compression
[12:40] <Coburn> no problem
[12:40] <Coburn> Lobs: yeah, that too
[12:41] <Coburn> if you have a AES accleration chip, then it's a piece of cake
[12:41] <Phrewfuf> Coburn: the one i just mounted via sshfs
[12:41] * Lobs gets Coburn to solder one to all pi's
[12:41] <Coburn> Mounted as root?
[12:41] <Coburn> Can't access as user?
[12:41] <Phrewfuf> ls -la shows about this: d???????? ? ? ? /mnt//shack
[12:41] <Coburn> no problem
[12:41] <Coburn> tack on -o allow_others on the end of it
[12:42] <Coburn> also, why /mnt//shack?
[12:42] <Phrewfuf> tzpo
[12:42] <Coburn> two slashes there
[12:42] <Phrewfuf> typo
[12:42] <Phrewfuf> /mnt/shack
[12:42] <Coburn> try this
[12:42] <Phrewfuf> also i mounted it via sudo even though the user owns the mountpoint
[12:42] <Coburn> sshfs -o allow_others user@box.somewhere.com:/some/dir /mnt/shack
[12:43] <Coburn> allow_others I think is needed
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[12:43] <Coburn> just because well
[12:43] <Coburn> it's sshfs.
[12:43] <Coburn> and secure.
[12:44] <Phrewfuf> wtf
[12:44] <Phrewfuf> sshfs -o allow_others shack@shack.shack /mnt/shack
[12:44] <Phrewfuf> reply: missing host
[12:44] <Coburn> uh
[12:44] <Coburn> try -o allow_others at the end
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[12:45] <Coburn> sshfs shack@shack.shack /mnt/shack -o allow_others
[12:45] <Coburn> the way it's done is wacky
[12:45] <Phrewfuf> missing host
[12:46] <Phrewfuf> what is this bullshitry, it worked about 10 minutes ago
[12:47] <Phrewfuf> ah there...
[12:48] <Phrewfuf> fuse: unknown option allow_others
[12:49] <Phrewfuf> ah...allow_other
[12:49] <Phrewfuf> aw yiss, it finally works
[12:50] <Coburn> that'll be $50 please
[12:50] <Coburn> you have 3 days to pay
[12:50] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[12:50] <Coburn> or else, I hack your r-pi and turn it into a bubbly pile of goo
[12:51] <Coburn> Anyway
[12:51] <Coburn> 9:51PM. I need sleep.
[12:51] <Coburn> I'll leave you with this
[12:52] <Lobs> Phrewfuf: dont listen to Coburn, just put some thing in the tip jar on your way out ;-P
[12:52] <Coburn> Wanna make your R-Pi go super fast?
[12:52] <Coburn> rm -rf /
[12:52] <Coburn> job done
[12:52] <Phrewfuf> Coburn: its old...
[12:52] <Lobs> and OMG, 9:15PM and you need sleep!?!?!?!
[12:52] <Coburn> I still get people who ask (genuinely) "what does it mean"
[12:52] <Coburn> I'm like "it decrapifies your PC"
[12:53] * Phrewfuf throws some coins into the tipjar
[12:53] <Phrewfuf> Coburn: people still fall for that?
[12:53] <Lobs> that a very bad joke to use, very dangerous when there are people who dont know what they are doing about.
[12:53] <Coburn> trial by fire, my friends
[12:53] <Phrewfuf> Lobs: well on a raspi it's not that bad...
[12:54] <Phrewfuf> who would store important data on that thing
[12:54] <Phrewfuf> and those who do store important data on a linux machine probably know the command
[12:54] <Lobs> Phrewfuf: yes, but it's a pain to re setup if you did a lot of custom stuff to it, and didnt know what you were doing... ;-)
[12:54] <Phrewfuf> anyway...off to making mp3blaster work...since it fails to open sound device -.-
[12:55] <Phrewfuf> Lobs: i have this picture of this funny science dog in my mind right now
[12:55] <Lobs> reminds me tho, of the guy that deleted command.com from his windows 3.11 machine because he didnt want any games installed on it (this is from back in the day obviously)
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[12:56] <rymate1234> rm = remove
[12:56] <rymate1234> -rf = recursively remove from sub directories focefully
[12:56] <Phrewfuf> rymate1234: http://ragefac.es/434
[12:56] <rymate1234> / = everything. ever
[12:56] <ParkerR_> focefully haha
[12:56] <Phrewfuf> :P
[12:56] <Coburn> usually it will stop at /lib tho
[12:56] <Coburn> because if it deletes the libc things
[12:57] <Coburn> the commands stop working
[12:57] <Coburn> since they no longer have libs
[12:57] <Lobs> Coburn: wouldnt that be in memory for the duration of the command being run? so could be deleted still,
[12:58] <Lobs> Coburn: tell you what, do a test for us and tell us what happens ;-)
[12:58] <Coburn> naw
[12:59] <gordonDrogon> it will generally run to completion.
[13:00] <gordonDrogon> files that are open will not be deleted from the filesystem until they are closed.
[13:00] <gordonDrogon> this feature allows you to delete a program and replace it with a new one.
[13:00] <gordonDrogon> same for libraries.
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[13:01] <gordonDrogon> it's been a while since I've done a recursive delete from / though..
[13:01] <Lobs> give it a go, Coburn says it will speed things up ;-P
[13:02] <gordonDrogon> I have some pure ramdisk system that's fun to play those sorts of tricks with.
[13:02] <Lobs> (sounds as bad as the "google told me to" excuse)
[13:02] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I could run a 512MB Pi from RAM disk and make it pretend to be a 256MB one...
[13:02] * gordonDrogon ponders...
[13:03] <Lobs> wny not just make a virtual machine inside a 512 pi of a 256 one?
[13:03] <Lobs> 2 for the price of 1!
[13:03] <Lobs> guess you would have no access to hardware properly tho,
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[13:03] <frikinz> I thought about the "toram" option that some debian derivates have
[13:04] <frikinz> Don't know if raspbian honours it, probably not
[13:04] <gordonDrogon> if you use LXC then you can have hardware access without too much issues
[13:05] <soltys> can anyone tell me how to mount usb disk via lxde file manager with rw access ?
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[13:05] <soltys> it mounts drive but only for reading..
[13:05] <gordonDrogon> frikinz, they have that? Hm. I put my own together for a router & pbx project some years back. basically stuffed everything into a large initrd which unpacked into a ramdisk and off I went...
[13:05] <gordonDrogon> soltys, it is NTFS?
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[13:06] <soltys> ext4
[13:06] <gordonDrogon> although that used to be read-only, but I think they were working on R/W ..
[13:06] <gordonDrogon> ah.
[13:06] <frikinz> gordonDrogon: knoppix and debian live has it. Was just wondering if it was so direct as for knoppix: add 'toram' at the kernel boot line
[13:06] <gordonDrogon> no idea - I'd try manually - sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt and see what happens.
[13:08] <soltys> gordonDrogon: still nothing, I can't write antything
[13:09] <Lobs> soltys: with it mounted, does `sudo touch /mnt/poop` make a poop?
[13:11] <soltys> nope, Permission denied
[13:11] <frikinz> mmhh fsck needed?
[13:12] <Lobs> nothing funky in dmesg?
[13:14] <soltys> it looks normal, http://wklej.to/QRrvP
[13:15] <gordonDrogon> it's possible that the root of the drive is not read/write permissions for your user.
[13:15] <gordonDrogon> cd /mnt ; ls -ld .
[13:16] <gordonDrogon> (assuming it's mounted on /mnt)
[13:16] <Lobs> i would think that using sudo to try to touch a file on it would render a permissions issue null,
[13:17] <Lobs> the fact it still gave a permission denied does not seem good.
[13:18] <soltys> wroting works with sudo
[13:18] <Lobs> soltys: so when i gave you that command before you decided you knew better and didnt use it as i typed it?!?
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> Lobs, there are things that'll stop root writing - unusual though
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> however I've just heard from my wife & she's arrived at her holiday destination OK, so I can go out & see some friends now :)
[13:19] <soltys> Lobs: I ment that sudo touch... works
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[13:20] <gordonDrogon> soltys, it's permissions then - do the ls -ld thing then, or be lazy and chmod 1777 .
[13:20] <Lobs> soltys: if using sudo allows it to write, then it is a permissions issue, which is why i got you to use sudo, so i could see if root worked, which means you either need to change permissions on the drive or directory's you wish to use.
[13:20] <soltys> Lobs: it doesn;t work for user, and woring as root all the time is not a good idea though
[13:20] <Lobs> gordonDrogon: may i ask why your wife goes on holiday without you?
[13:20] <soltys> dirrectory is created by user, I used automount from file manager as user pi
[13:20] <Lobs> gordonDrogon: i know some times its good to have time apart, but a full holiday seems a bit overkill ;-)
[13:21] <soltys> and it should work aotb iirc
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[13:21] <Lobs> soltys: when i gave you that command it was to diagnose a problem, so giving the correct answer from it would have been helpful.
[13:23] <bLiNdRaGe> Am i missing something? Got my pi, hooked up 8gb sd card, showed as /dev/sdh1, got redsleeve and ran the xz -cd file | dd of=/dev/sdh1 bs=8M, pi doesn't boot. gparted shows filesystem as 'unknown' for sdh1
[13:24] <frikinz> is the image a partition image or a DISK image like raspbian images? if latter then you need to dd to teh whole sdh
[13:24] <soltys> Lobs: I didn;t saw sudo in your command, my bad.
[13:24] <frikinz> what has redsleed compared to others?
[13:24] <bLiNdRaGe> hmmm maybe that was it
[13:25] <bLiNdRaGe> one sec i'll pop the card back in and try it to the disk
[13:25] <soltys> gordonDrogon: that ls -ld shows drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 gru 29 13:17 .
[13:25] <soltys> so its permission, but how to fix that I don't know
[13:26] <frikinz> bLiNdRaGe: you can do a fdisk -l foobar.img to know what's in the image. or file -s foobar.img
[13:26] <soltys> on my gentoo box mounting wit udisk works fine for that drivw..
[13:26] <soltys> s/drivw/drive/
[13:26] <Lobs> soltys: you could chown to the user/group you want to access it, or chmod the permissions to allow anyone to access it
[13:26] <frikinz> 2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian-slim.img: x86 boot sector; partition 1: ID=0xc, starthead 130, startsector 8192, 114688 sectors; partition 2: ID=0x83, starthead 165, startsector 122880, 1024000 sectors, code offset 0xb8
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[13:27] <bLiNdRaGe> file -s shows that's it's compressed
[13:27] <bLiNdRaGe> i'll have to un-xz it
[13:27] <artag> you shouldn't have copied it to /dev/sdh1
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[13:28] <artag> you've put a partition tabel and two partitions inside an existing partition
[13:28] <bLiNdRaGe> their guide showed /dev/mmcblk0 so i figured that was a partition
[13:28] <frikinz> no. mmcblk0pX are partitions
[13:28] <bLiNdRaGe> ohhhhhh
[13:28] <artag> dd of=/dev/sdh bs=8M is what you want
[13:28] <bLiNdRaGe> ok that's my bad. the # made my mind think partition. that command is running now
[13:29] <frikinz> ok this redsleeve is fedora for arm
[13:30] <bLiNdRaGe> what are you guys doing with yours? most people seem to use it for a media center, but i have a boxee box. Thinking maybe makng it an all-in-one audio streamer (airport express support + bluetooth streaming)
[13:30] <bLiNdRaGe> frikinz sorta. redhat arm. sleeve->arm. their pun
[13:31] <frikinz> porting redhat mess to arm? :D
[13:31] <bLiNdRaGe> well sleeve->arm for hat
[13:31] <bLiNdRaGe> i love rhel =)
[13:31] <frikinz> j/k. everyone likes what he knows best. I hate it
[13:31] <bLiNdRaGe> i use centos for all my virtual boxes, fedora for my home server, SL for my work workstation/vm host, centos for my webhost
[13:32] <bLiNdRaGe> i've played with debian flavors, just always like rhel a bit more
[13:33] <bLiNdRaGe> if it tends to be 'meh' though on arm packages i'll prob go to deb though. there seem to be a shit ton more packages
[13:36] <frikinz> Remember a friend who was really into fedora and he built himself a lot of packages yeah
[13:36] <bLiNdRaGe> that shows the partitions now, but i can't resize it with gparted
[13:37] <bLiNdRaGe> shows 5GB free space, lowering following free space shifts the preceeding free space
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[13:40] <TAFB_ssd> bLiNdRaGe: Can you change the middle number in gparted? changing the before/after doesn't change the size, that's only for moving the partition :) try grabbin the partition edges and dragging them too.
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[13:44] <|Jeroen|> hi
[13:44] <TAFB_ssd> well hello
[13:44] <|Jeroen|> my pi doesn't seems to want to overclock
[13:44] <|Jeroen|> dunno why
[13:44] <TAFB_ssd> are you using raspi-config?
[13:44] <|Jeroen|> no just config.txt
[13:45] <|Jeroen|> i just put arm_freq=750
[13:45] <|Jeroen|> but it stays at 700
[13:45] <TAFB_ssd> |Jeroen|: try http://pastebin.com/1aBsWs87
[13:45] <|Jeroen|> ik ul try those
[13:46] <TAFB_ssd> |Jeroen|: Arm freq is the MAX freq it'll "scale up to", you can try core_freq_min=750 but dunno if that'll work.
[13:46] <TAFB_ssd> and to make sure you're seeing the "current" clock speed: watch cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq
[13:47] <|Jeroen|> ah isn't it changed in /proc/cpu ?
[13:47] <TAFB_ssd> don't think so, that's base clock speed ;)
[13:48] <|Jeroen|> aha that may explain it
[13:48] <TAFB_ssd> could be :)
[13:49] <TAFB_ssd> |Jeroen|: check out my cool status page while you're waiting :) http://tafb.yi.org
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[13:49] <|Jeroen|> lol nice
[13:49] <|Jeroen|> what do you do with your pi ?
[13:50] <TAFB_ssd> I tried to use it as my main web/email server, but it was too slow (i/o performance on it was terrible, even with super fast SSD drive), so I replaced my Pi with that little black box you see in the pic.
[13:50] <TAFB_ssd> called a Sheeva Plug computer.
[13:50] <TAFB_ssd> 1.2ghz but only 128mb ram, but it's got dedicated usb 2.0, gigabit ethernet and Sata2 :)
[13:51] <|Jeroen|> mhzz that config you pasted seems a bit to mutch, it turned my pi off
[13:52] <|Jeroen|> i just use mine for xbm
[13:52] <|Jeroen|> x
[13:52] <|Jeroen|> c
[13:52] <|Jeroen|> dam
[13:52] <TAFB_ssd> |Jeroen|: usually that's due to crappy MicroUSB cable not providing enough power. check your TP1-TP2 voltage if you've got a multimeter handy.
[13:52] <|Jeroen|> i don't use usb
[13:53] <TAFB_ssd> how do you power it?
[13:53] <|Jeroen|> i connected power on the gpio pins
[13:53] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh.
[13:53] <TAFB_ssd> what's your tp1-tp2 voltage?
[13:53] <|Jeroen|> i have a 2Amp transo
[13:53] <|Jeroen|> fo
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[13:53] <TAFB_ssd> i'm thinking your F3 poly fuse might be freaked out. check tp1-tp2
[13:57] <|Jeroen|> its at 4.7v
[13:57] <TAFB_ssd> quite low for over clocking, need 4.85 or higher.
[13:57] <TAFB_ssd> you might need to brigde your F3 polyfuse, just solder a wire from one side of it to the other. did it on my Pi, flawless after that.
[13:59] <Phrewfuf> gawd, why on earth won't mpd work
[14:00] <|Jeroen|> mhzz, its it safe?
[14:00] <|Jeroen|> don't want to blow mine up
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[14:01] <TAFB_ssd> super safe, your F3 poly fuse is freakin out. everyone bypasses it. works sweet.
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[14:01] <|Jeroen|> ok, il try it, but if it blows up il send the bill to you :-p
[14:02] <TAFB_ssd> sounds good
[14:02] <Phrewfuf> TAFB_ssd: the main fuse is buggy?
[14:02] <TAFB_ssd> yeah, lots of people report current/voltage loss over F3
[14:03] <Phrewfuf> in what cases?
[14:03] <TAFB_ssd> that's why the rPi wiki specifically tells you how to test it.
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[14:03] <TAFB_ssd> I had to bridge mine in order for my USB Wifi to even work :(
[14:03] <Phrewfuf> heh, if it's reallz just 700mA rated
[14:03] <Pitel> Is there some minimal distro which will fit to 128 MB SD card?
[14:04] <TAFB_ssd> Pitel: check out berry boot, they have a 5mb OS!
[14:04] <Phrewfuf> TAFB_ssd: i assume tp1-tp2 should be 5v, is that right?
[14:04] <TAFB_ssd> you can run your boot off 128mb SD and run your OS off USB (that's what i do).
[14:04] <TAFB_ssd> Phrewfuf: Anything over 4.85 is great, 4.9 is awesome.
[14:05] <|Jeroen|> soldering now :-p
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[14:05] <TAFB_ssd> and just to clarify, anything over 5.15 and your pi will do strange things ;)
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[14:05] <TAFB_ssd> |Jeroen| post up TP1-TP2 voltage when done :)
[14:06] <Phrewfuf> TAFB_ssd: you mean strange things like..burn? :D
[14:06] <Phrewfuf> though i wonder why, most parts of it run with lower voltages and have regulators
[14:06] <TAFB_ssd> lol, naaa. just USB/network random drop outs, hdmi output loss, etc. just flakeyness. I've seen people run 5.8 and it not explode :)
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[14:07] <TAFB_ssd> Phrewfuf: the regulators they use are absolute garbage, that's why the Pi draws so much current and is so picky!!
[14:07] <TAFB_ssd> if they use switching regulator instead of linear regulator for RG2 = no heat and way less current and way better tolerance!
[14:07] <Phrewfuf> wasn't there a blogpost about replacing that darn linear regulators with switched PSUs?
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[14:08] <TAFB_ssd> yep, I replaced mine with ultra efficient buck regulator, I can run my Pi on 385ma and still have 4.9v :)
[14:08] <Phrewfuf> sick
[14:08] <Phrewfuf> do you have a link on hand?
[14:09] <TAFB_ssd> nope :( my friend who's big into modding flashlights did it for me. I'll ask him for the info for ya :) if you google 5v to 3.3v buck regulator or switching regulator you could probably find it.
[14:09] <Phrewfuf> would be nice, though i'll see if i can find it
[14:10] <Phrewfuf> hm...time to get that laptop out...darm ipad battery
[14:10] <Phrewfuf> darn*
[14:10] <TAFB_ssd> rofl
[14:10] <|Jeroen|> its at 4.9v now
[14:11] <Phrewfuf> yeah logging onto a server and screening into weechat is easy with the rpi without X installed
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[14:12] <TAFB_ssd> |Jeroen|: WOOT! NICE :)
[14:12] <|Jeroen|> yeah but it still reboots
[14:12] <TAFB_ssd> no probs, some boxes can't do 1ghz, if you got samsung ram, etc.
[14:12] <TAFB_ssd> lower it to 950 or 900 and give er a go
[14:13] <|Jeroen|> sup got samsung
[14:13] <|Jeroen|> k
[14:13] <Phrewfuf> TAFB_ssd: isn't samsung ram the one they put on the last revision? the 512 MB
[14:13] <TAFB_ssd> Phrewfuf: not sure, heard some of the China ones were mix of hynix and samsung but all UK ones were Samsung
[14:13] <|Jeroen|> shoould i also drop ram feq?
[14:13] <Phrewfuf> at least mine has SAMSUNG printed on it
[14:14] <Hoerie> I heard the hynix ones were less able to be OCed, but all rumours
[14:14] <TAFB_ssd> |Jeroen|: leave it the same for now, test.
[14:14] <TAFB_ssd> Hoerie: Who knows :) my first two Pi's were undercooked from the factory. I got mine replaced, my friend put them in his oven. lol.
[14:14] <Phrewfuf> eh i think i will just slap on a heatsink and cut a hole in that acrylic case
[14:15] <Phrewfuf> TAFB_ssd: reflow ovens rock
[14:15] <TAFB_ssd> This was a regular oven, but the re-flow worked flawless, pi is still rockin to this dar.
[14:15] <TAFB_ssd> day
[14:16] <Phrewfuf> well regular ovens work, but not as nice
[14:16] <TAFB_ssd> did it on metal baking sheet, on tinfoil, upside down for 500f a little over 2 mins. as soon as the audio jack started to melt we starting cooling ramp.
[14:16] <Phrewfuf> they heat up too fast, so you might end up with broken chips
[14:17] <TAFB_ssd> whops ;)
[14:17] <TAFB_ssd> it heated fast
[14:17] <Phrewfuf> mechanically broken that is, from the moisture
[14:17] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh
[14:17] <Phrewfuf> this is why most ICs get shipped in those barrierbags, especially TI does that
[14:18] <Phrewfuf> with a packet of do-not-eat and a paper moisture monitoring thingy
[14:19] <TAFB_ssd> ahhhh, never knew why they did that :)
[14:19] <Phrewfuf> three circles on it with those sensing chemicals...if one of the two bigger ones turns pink, you will have to speciall-treat your chips
[14:20] <Phrewfuf> because then even the usual slow-ramping reflow will be too fast
[14:21] <Phrewfuf> stuff you learn, when you're a) in a hackerspace and b) ordering a buttload of parts all the time
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[14:28] <Phrewfuf> hehe, one could compare it to popcorn :D
[14:28] <Phrewfuf> btw TAFB_ssd do you have any experience with xbmc on raspbian?
[14:30] <TAFB_ssd> nope, only every ran wheezy
[14:32] <Phrewfuf> hm...this thing drives me crazy
[14:33] <Phrewfuf> did you do anything with mpd?
[14:33] <TAFB_ssd> nope
[14:33] <TAFB_ssd> alright man, I better get some sleep :) nite nite
[14:33] <Phrewfuf> bye
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[14:41] <TechDesk> archlinux isen't supported on odroid-x2 ?
[14:41] <TechDesk> :(
[14:43] <FunkyELF> I'm running raspbian... I can't apt-get install xbmc
[14:43] <FunkyELF> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[14:43] <TechDesk> :>
[14:44] <viric> you broke it
[14:44] <viric> release the broken packages! Freedom for the broken packages!
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[14:49] <FunkyELF> http://pastebin.ca/2297684
[14:49] <FunkyELF> viric: how do I tell what is broken? above is the output
[14:49] <viric> I was just kidding
[14:49] <viric> I barely know anything of raspbian
[14:50] <TechDesk> archlinux is really not supported on odroid-x2 ?
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[14:57] <Tachyon`> I think that's saying there are no x binaries currently packaged
[14:57] <Tachyon`> xbmc*
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[14:58] <Tachyon`> if you have a spare sd, go with the new raspbmc, it's very much faster than it was when using the interface
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[14:59] <|Jeroen|> i found openelec to be faster
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[15:02] <FunkyELF> so I can't install xbmc on rasbpian?
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[15:03] <FunkyELF> what is raspbmc based on?.... I'd like to be able to run other things like nginx, postgresql, samba, etc as well as xbmc
[15:05] <Aranel> FunkyELF: It's based on Raspbian afaik, they're pretty much the same
[15:05] <Aranel> and you can install everything you want on it as well as xbmc
[15:05] <Aranel> and you can also turn-off xbmc when you want, to make it a complete headless server
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[15:12] <mdszy> hooray, got Arch Linux ARM to work.
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[15:28] <techkid6> How do I check how much space is left on my SD card?
[15:28] <techkid6> (running Raspbian Wheezy if that matters)
[15:29] <Phrewfuf> doesn't fdisk -l also show usage?
[15:30] <techkid6> I just tried that, no out
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[15:33] <Amadiro> techkid6, df -h
[15:34] <Amadiro> if it is mounted, that will show how much space is left
[15:35] <techkid6> Odd..... This is what it gave me for the root fs: /dev/root 1804128 1704996 7484 100% /
[15:35] <techkid6> I used more than I have?
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[15:59] <pmagi> Hi, anyone got an idea how to execute a bash script on boot/reboot?
[15:59] <pmagi> I have tried @reboot in crontab but it doesn't execute
[16:00] <pmagi> I only whant it to be executed once and on boot/reboot
[16:00] <pmagi> running raspbian stable
[16:02] <Mikelevel> pmagi~ http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/28
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[16:06] <techkid6> Is there a way to change the size of the rootfs partition on my pi (Raspbian), it is too small...
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[16:06] <techkid6> Right now it is at: rootfs 1.8G 1.7G 7.4M 100% /
[16:07] <techkid6> Which I know for a fact isn't right, using a 16 gb card....
[16:07] <martk100> Is it possible to open desktop icons with single click?
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[16:08] <martk100> techkid6: You could use fuse2fs or do it from raspi-config.
[16:08] <techkid6> Awesome, thanks
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[16:09] <techkid6> Thank you :)
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[16:12] <PhotoJim> TechDesk: raspbi-config can do that, or you can put the card into an SD reader on another Linux machine and run GNUPartEd to resize
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[16:13] <TechDesk> yes PhotoJim
[16:13] <TechDesk> i have resize ^^
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[16:16] <techkid6> Thanks guys, it worked :D
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[16:24] <gko> Just bought a RaspberryPi. Awesome... How is archlinux-hf-2012-09-18.img, compared to 2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian.img?
[16:24] <viric> almost three months
[16:24] <viric> of difference
[16:25] <gko> 2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian.img comes with Emacs 23... Can I compile 24.2 with it?
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[16:39] <rymate1234> gko, can you compile emacs on a normal PC?
[16:40] <gko> yep.
[16:40] <gko> I'll try.
[16:40] <rymate1234> then you can do so on a raspberrypi
[16:40] <rymate1234> it might take a while though
[16:40] <rymate1234> the Pi isn't exactly beefy
[16:42] <gko> Not expecting it to be.
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[16:50] <xrosnight> does any one knows that " Perlperl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:
[16:50] <xrosnight> LANGUAGE = (unset),
[16:50] <xrosnight> LC_ALL = (unset),
[16:50] <xrosnight> LC_TIME = "en_US.UTF-8",
[16:50] <xrosnight> LC_MONETARY = "en_US.UTF-8",
[16:50] <xrosnight> LC_ADDRESS = "en_US.UTF-8",
[16:50] <xrosnight> LC_TELEPHONE = "en_US.UTF-8",
[16:50] <xrosnight> LC_NAME = "en_US.UTF-8",
[16:50] <xrosnight> LC_MEASUREMENT = "en_US.UTF-8",
[16:50] <xrosnight> LC_IDENTIFICATION = "en_US.UTF-8",
[16:50] <xrosnight> LC_NUMERIC = "en_US.UTF-8",
[16:50] <xrosnight> LC_PAPER = "en_US.UTF-8",
[16:50] <xrosnight> LANG = "en_GB.UTF-8"
[16:50] <xrosnight> are supported and installed on your system.
[16:51] <rymate1234> xrosnight, spam
[16:51] <rymate1234> xrosnight, if you have large things to paste, use pastebin.com next time :P
[16:51] <xrosnight> locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory
[16:52] <xrosnight> rymate1234: yeah :D i see
[16:52] <xrosnight> how to set LC_ALL be en_US.UTF-8
[16:53] <xrosnight> i added this sentence in /etc/locale.conf LC_ALL = "en_US.UTF-8" , after $~ locale-gen , it doesn't work :(
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[16:54] <rymate1234> hmm
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[16:55] <xrosnight> rymate1234: yeah?
[16:55] <rymate1234> xrosnight, you might ahve to wait until someone with knowledge on setting locales gets here :P
[16:57] <xrosnight> rymate1234: yeah
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[17:02] <h3sp4wn> Samba4 BDC (Or PDC to start) anyone created one from a pi yet ?
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[17:09] <h3sp4wn> xrosnight: What do you need to know about locales ?
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[17:09] <xrosnight> h3sp4wn: hey. i can't set my LC_ALL , i don't know how to set it :(
[17:09] <h3sp4wn> xrosnight: Why would you want to set it ? (What distro are you using ?)
[17:10] <xrosnight> h3sp4wn: raspbian
[17:10] <xrosnight> everytime i installed software via terminal , it warns me
[17:11] <h3sp4wn> The way to fix it presuming it is not hardcoded badly somewhere (Which people seem to do) is create - /etc/default/locale
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[17:12] <xrosnight> h3sp4wn: yeah. let me give the /etc/default/locale file
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[17:13] <xrosnight> h3sp4wn: it's # File generated by update-locale
[17:13] <xrosnight> LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
[17:13] <xrosnight> LANGUAGE=en_GB:en
[17:13] <xrosnight> LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF-8
[17:13] <xrosnight> are they wrong ?
[17:13] <h3sp4wn> xrosnight: http://paste.debian.net/220118/ this is what it should be like : LC_ALL is for when you need to change the locale temporarily without the hassle of setting them all individually
[17:14] <h3sp4wn> Looks alright (Maybe mine is wrong dunno what software actually uses LANGUAGE) shouldn't need to set LC_ALL though
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[17:15] <h3sp4wn> What output do you get from :
[17:15] <h3sp4wn> cat /etc/locale.gen| grep -v \#
[17:16] <xrosnight> h3sp4wn: here is the paste link http://pastebin.com/Une5RPcL
[17:16] <martk100> Can I set my desktop icons to open with single click? I use Debian Wheezy.
[17:17] <h3sp4wn> pointless use of cat - should be < /etc/locale.gen| grep -v \#
[17:18] <xrosnight> this is mine http://pastebin.com/15uh6XVZ /etc/locale.gen| grep -v \#
[17:18] <xrosnight> h3sp4wn: thanks for the tips
[17:18] <h3sp4wn> xrosnight: In a terminal run - export LANGUAGE=en_GB.UTF-8 - then run locale again
[17:19] <xrosnight> okay let me try. but export only works in one shell once right?
[17:19] <h3sp4wn> xrosnight: I think it is because for LANGUAGE=en_GB:en you need the non UTF8 locale built
[17:20] <h3sp4wn> xrosnight: Just want to check if it works in the shell you can just change it like mine as and it will be permanent
[17:20] <pmagi> My firingbox is almost done: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IlH61wUOY0k
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[17:20] <pmagi> I'm gonna head out in a couple of minutes to test it, gonna shoot 2" mortarshells.
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[17:21] <xrosnight> export LANGUAGE= "en_GB.UTF-8"
[17:21] <xrosnight> -bash: export: `en_GB.UTF-8': not a valid identifier
[17:22] <h3sp4wn> xrosnight: You cannot have the space
[17:23] <xrosnight> thanks :D
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[17:23] <xrosnight> damn . it works now.
[17:23] <xrosnight> all are because of my space!
[17:23] <xrosnight> haha `
[17:23] <xrosnight> thanks h3sp4wn
[17:24] <rymate1234> ...why am I xorg forwarding lxde
[17:25] <xrosnight> h3sp4wn: but if i set /etc/locale.conf , it doesnt' work
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[17:25] <h3sp4wn> xrosnight: Just remove the LC_ALL line from it and change the LANGUAGE line in the file /etc/default/locale then should be ok
[17:25] <h3sp4wn> I dunno what /etc/locale.conf is
[17:25] <Phrewfuf> in a dialogue about overclocking the rpi: how far can one overclock? - well, you can always stick a peltier element to it
[17:26] <xrosnight> h3sp4wn: should LANGUAGE=en_GB:en or just en_GB.UTF-8 ?
[17:27] <h3sp4wn> LANGUAGE=en_GB.UTF-8
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[17:27] <xrosnight> h3sp4wn: okay. then i will need locale-gen , right?
[17:28] <h3sp4wn> local-gen is just for generating new locales (i.e if you change /etc/locale.gen) don't think you need to
[17:28] <rymate1234> I think my Pi is struggling to power the wifi adaptor
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[17:29] <Phrewfuf> rymate1234: do you happen to have a voltmeter on hand?
[17:29] <h3sp4wn> xrosnight: Just realised systemd deals with locale's differently and I know next to nothing about it
[17:29] <rymate1234> Phrewfuf, nope
[17:30] <Phrewfuf> rymate1234: that's bad. if you manage to get one, measure the voltage between TP1 and TP2
[17:30] <Phrewfuf> if it's below 4.85, it's bad
[17:30] <xrosnight> h3sp4wn: okay. thanks. yeah it's different. idont know whether next debian destro will have systemd or initscripts
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[17:30] <Phrewfuf> then your F3 fuse has issues and you will need to override it...with a soldering iron
[17:32] <xrosnight> Phrewfuf: once i over-clocked Pi up to 900Mhz, it stopped when booting :( why is that , should it need power more than 5 V ?
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[17:32] <h3sp4wn> xrosnight: You can put - export LANG=en_GB.UTF-8 and export LANGUAGE=en_GB.UTF-8 into your shell startup file to override it (.bashrc or .zshrc or whatever)
[17:32] <Phrewfuf> xrosnight: i have been told today that this fuse thing may affect overclocking too...
[17:33] <Phrewfuf> essentially everything that needs a certain voltage around 5V
[17:33] <h3sp4wn> It might need more current it won't need more voltage
[17:33] <Phrewfuf> and the polyfuse at f3 has some issues plus it's only rated for 700mA
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[17:33] <Phrewfuf> h3sp4wn: if youre doing overvoltage, then it needs more voltage
[17:34] <Phrewfuf> surprise
[17:34] <rymate1234> ok fixed it
[17:34] <Phrewfuf> and if you draw too much current, what happes to your voltage?
[17:35] <xrosnight> Phrewfuf: you mean like 7 V ?
[17:35] <h3sp4wn> Should stay the same if it is designed properly
[17:35] <Phrewfuf> xrosnight: no, nothing more than 5. there is a section to verify if you have F3 problems in the wiki
[17:35] <Phrewfuf> measure the voltage between TP1 and TP2 on the board
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[17:36] <Phrewfuf> below 4.85 is bad, 4.9 is perfect
[17:36] <Phrewfuf> anything above 5.15 and your pi will act fancy
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[17:36] <xrosnight> Phrewfuf: wow. let me measure it now
[17:36] <Phrewfuf> h3sp4wn: drawing too much current will drop you voltage...or your fuse will just blow
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[17:39] <h3sp4wn> Phrewfuf: I am not sure if we are talking about the same thing but so you are saying if I have a PSU that can do 2A at 5V then the pi won't handle that properly ?
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[17:40] <h3sp4wn> (Running usb devices off it without a hub)
[17:41] <Phrewfuf> no, the PSU doesn't matter
[17:41] <Phrewfuf> if its big enough
[17:41] <Phrewfuf> small psu will screw up
[17:41] <Phrewfuf> the problem is, the polyfuse on the pi is rated for 700mA
[17:42] <Phrewfuf> if you hook up some stuff via usb that needs lots of power (wireless, USB-HDD) then your whole system needs more power than those 700ma
[17:42] <Phrewfuf> your PSU with 2A is just fine with that...but the voltage between tp1 and tp2 will drop, because the fuse on the pi is the problem
[17:43] <Phrewfuf> simple test: hook up a small microcontroller to an ATX PSU
[17:43] <Phrewfuf> lets say the PSU can handle 500W
[17:43] <Phrewfuf> usually about 15-20A on 5v Rail
[17:43] <Phrewfuf> but this doesn't matter, since your chip cant source more than 20mA
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[18:04] <h3sp4wn> Phrewfuf: Understood (The last board I messed with like this was incredibly tolerant - didn't even die when I didn't use a proper 240->110 convertor (I did get a flash and a little burn mark but it still worked for 5 yrs (Took anything from 4-12v just fine wasn't careful with it at all) Think I will be more careful with this (Or use the spare Atrix HD dock I have)
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[18:15] * FrankBlues waves from his brand new pi!
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[18:17] <|Jeroen|> lol
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[18:21] <pmagi> Here's a short video of the first try of my firingsystem based on a Raspberry Pi: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nFe7aogTew
[18:22] <atouk> firing system? the boss said FILING system. Now we're ALL getting pink slipped!
[18:22] <|Jeroen|> what does if fire ?
[18:22] <piney> pmagi, that's cool
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[18:24] <Phrewfuf> thats not cool, the video is unavailable -.-
[18:25] <FrankBlues> Still uploading / processing maybe?
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[18:26] <piney> it played here
[18:26] <pmagi> Perhaps it hasn't been provisioned to their cdn yet.
[18:26] <pmagi> But it plays fine here (sweden)
[18:27] <Phrewfuf> trying here in germany, no joy
[18:27] <|Jeroen|> plays here in belgium
[18:27] <FrankBlues> Doesn't play in US
[18:27] <piney> here too (NJ USA)
[18:27] <Hopsy> does my wifi dongle support AP? http://cache.gyazo.com/ebf817d60721fa482f1e53afd997fed6.png?1356802011
[18:27] <Phrewfuf> it just starts to load, says its 43s long and then "currently unavailable"
[18:27] <Phrewfuf> btw quick question
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[18:28] <Phrewfuf> raspbian without X, xbmc-standalone via packetmanager, run as root: fine, run as nonroot: doesn't react to inputs from KB
[18:28] <Hopsy> |Jeroen|: jeroen, help!
[18:28] <Phrewfuf> why?
[18:28] <|Jeroen|> why me?
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[18:29] <Hopsy> random haha
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[18:29] <Hopsy> and your name is dutch
[18:29] <|Jeroen|> jummy i want a DeliriumTremens
[18:29] <|Jeroen|> so?
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[18:29] <Hopsy> am I
[18:29] <FrankBlues> Phrewfuf: Permissions with something in /dev maybe?
[18:30] <Phrewfuf> FrankBlues: i was busy trying to set those yesterday...no joy
[18:30] <Phrewfuf> though one thing bugs me...there was this blogpost how to install xbmc
[18:30] <Phrewfuf> it said "add your user to the group input"
[18:30] <Phrewfuf> my pi had no such group ^oo
[18:30] <Hopsy> yumyum I want lars_t_h
[18:31] <|Jeroen|> is that also beer ?
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[18:31] <Hopsy> a good one!
[18:31] <|Jeroen|> never heard of it
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[18:34] <FrankBlues> Phrewfuf, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=138648 - fourth post down gives a hack that should work.
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[18:45] <Phrewfuf> FrankBlues: awesome, thanks!
[18:46] <FrankBlues> Hope it works!
[18:46] <Phrewfuf> it does, just tried it
[18:46] <FrankBlues> Cool!
[18:46] <Phrewfuf> just need to check what happens after reboot
[18:47] <Phrewfuf> btw, is it possible to hide the console output during boot behind some nice logo or something?
[18:48] <Phrewfuf> like when booting pure android on a device, there is this android logo being animated
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[18:48] <Phrewfuf> instead of all the bootinfo
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[18:49] <FrankBlues> I know the Fedora distro has a rotating raspberry pi logo as it boots, not sure how they do that.
[18:49] <PhotoJim> Phrewfuf: probably, but far more informative to see the boot info in case you have a problem.
[18:49] <Phrewfuf> PhotoJim: sure, but when the whole setup runs witout faultiing in a living room
[18:49] <TomWij> FrankBlues: Create a h264 video and play it back.
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[18:49] <PhotoJim> Phrewfuf: don't you just keep it running? in which case, you'll never see the boot info :)
[18:50] <Phrewfuf> i assume you are familiar with the WAF? :D
[18:50] <Phrewfuf> btw FrankBlues the hack didn't survive the reboot -.-
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[18:51] <FrankBlues> Nice little script, maybe?
[18:52] <Phrewfuf> aw man, i always had difficulties setting up boot-scripts :(
[18:52] <h3sp4wn> You can code a logo into the kernel pretty easily dunno what fedora uses - there is a few some require kernel patches some don't - you could probably port the ubuntu one quite easily
[18:52] <FrankBlues> I'd stick it all into /etc/rc.local
[18:53] <FrankBlues> Although that means it would all run if you change initlevels too, iirc.
[18:53] <Phrewfuf> "executed at the end of each multiuser runlevel"
[18:54] <Phrewfuf> but i usually do not change initlevels
[18:54] <h3sp4wn> Thought systemd had no concept of runlevels
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[18:56] <FrankBlues> Not sure... I haven't had to change runlevels in a long time, and when I have it was usually to go down to single-user.
[18:57] <FrankBlues> Used to be that RedHat (pre-fedora) used runlevels to bring X up and down, as well as NFS, not sure if that's still the case.
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[18:58] <Phrewfuf> FrankBlues: since i have no X at all, it doesn't matter for me then :D
[18:58] <Phrewfuf> and the script works
[18:58] <FrankBlues> Nice!
[18:58] <Phrewfuf> damn, i like how fast this thing boots
[18:59] <Phrewfuf> one moment you type shutdown -r now and hit enter and then
[18:59] * Phrewfuf snaps his fingers
[18:59] <Phrewfuf> its up again
[19:00] <FrankBlues> I still expect some sort of grindy disk noise when I'm overloading the thing to tell me I need to wait and chill out.
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[19:03] <Phrewfuf> hm scumbag xbmc wont let my type with my keyboard now
[19:04] <viric> FrankBlues: it'll show up not as grinding noise, but as sd card errors
[19:04] <viric> .)
[19:04] <viric> :)
[19:04] <viric> (raspbian sets up a swap on a sd card file. not a very good default imo)
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[19:05] <FrankBlues> LOL
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[19:06] <FrankBlues> I'm thinking that could be a little app, plays disk noises when the SD card is accessed...
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[19:07] <viric> there is a led
[19:08] <h3sp4wn> Has anyone tried the Atrix HD Dock yet (I know people use the Atrix lapdock) it has a remote with it. (Never even used it but was cheaper to get the kit than the bt keyboard and mouse seperate).
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[19:40] <Toothpick> TomWij: still compiling xbmc since yesterday... lol
[19:41] <|Jeroen|> lool
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[19:42] <techkid6> Is there a way to stream to a shoutcast station from a pi?
[19:43] <|Jeroen|> there must be
[19:43] <FrankBlues> icecast?
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[19:44] <techkid6> No, ShoutCAST, mp3 stream
[19:45] <|Jeroen|> isn't that the same ?
[19:45] <techkid6> I don't think so....
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[19:45] <techkid6> I could be wrong though, but the Windows streamer I use has two seperate options
[19:45] <FrankBlues> Icecast is a streaming server that supports the shoutcast protocol
[19:46] <FrankBlues> Try: http://www.t3node.com/blog/streaming-audio-with-mpd-and-icecast2-on-raspberry-pi/
[19:46] <techkid6> Hmm, I will have to try then, the server is already in place
[19:46] <techkid6> Ok, thanks
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[19:47] <Phrewfuf> hmm, this medium overclock is actually really neat compared to no OC
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[19:48] <|Jeroen|> what feq?
[19:48] <Phrewfuf> xbmc runs quick as hell now
[19:48] <Phrewfuf> |Jeroen|: raspi-config medium
[19:49] <Phrewfuf> 900MHz ARM, default Core, 450 SDRAM overvolt 2
[19:49] <Phrewfuf> default core should be 250 AFAIR
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[19:51] <Phrewfuf> 5 different levels, i chose the middle one, didn't want to overvolt by 6
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[19:51] <FrankBlues> Is there a way to tell what the processor speed is currently?
[19:52] <Phrewfuf> i think next one would be 900, 450, 450, 6
[19:52] <blahee> cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq
[19:52] <Phrewfuf> and turbo (highest) was 1000, 500, 500, 6 or something like that
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[19:53] <|Jeroen|> i tried turbo today but it rebooted
[19:53] <blahee> i do run with arm_freq=1000, sdram_freq=500, core_freq=500 all day long, but i don't use GPU at all (headless mostly compiling sofwsre for rpi)
[19:53] <|Jeroen|> gonna try 900 tomorrow
[19:53] <|Jeroen|> i already solderd the fuse
[19:53] <Phrewfuf> my cpufreq in idle on console (xbmc off) is 700
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[19:54] <|Jeroen|> i wonder my xbmc alwyas goes 100% cpu
[19:54] <Phrewfuf> |Jeroen|: yeah, mine too
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[19:54] <Phrewfuf> it just uses 100% cputime for no reason
[19:55] <|Jeroen|> yeah
[19:55] <|Jeroen|> well it also does that on a normal pc
[19:55] <|Jeroen|> wel at least one core
[19:56] <Phrewfuf> hehe, xbmc running, current clock at 900
[19:56] <intothev01d> are you both running xbmc on raspbian or raspbmc?
[19:56] <Phrewfuf> so it really does use 100%
[19:56] <Phrewfuf> raspbian
[19:56] <Phrewfuf> without X! :D
[19:56] <|Jeroen|> openelec
[19:56] <intothev01d> yea, i tried that yesterday, too slow for me. just decided to go with raspbmc
[19:56] <Phrewfuf> whatever kind of black magic xbmc standalone does there, it does not use X
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[19:56] <intothev01d> yea it doesnt
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[19:56] <Phrewfuf> intothev01d: overclock to medium, then it runs fine :P
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[19:57] <intothev01d> i did
[19:57] <intothev01d> it would only do about 13 fps in xbmc though
[19:57] <Phrewfuf> mine does around 30
[19:57] <intothev01d> menus were pretty slow
[19:57] <intothev01d> well thats good
[19:57] <Phrewfuf> everything is superquick here
[19:57] <intothev01d> cool
[19:57] <intothev01d> can you see your terminal behind xbmc?
[19:57] <Phrewfuf> yes >.<
[19:57] <intothev01d> thats what finally broke the camels back for me
[19:57] <|Jeroen|> yeah mine is about 30 to
[19:57] <intothev01d> lol
[19:58] <intothev01d> i dont really need anything on it other than xmbc, but i can just ssh into it and prob still install other stuff with xbmc
[19:58] <Phrewfuf> if xbmc fades or i watch a 16:9 video on that 16:10 screen
[19:58] <intothev01d> or raspbmc*
[19:58] <intothev01d> yea
[19:58] <Phrewfuf> and the best thing is: the guys at #xbmc have no idea about this :D
[19:59] <intothev01d> raspbmc doesnt have x, and I don't know that the have it working or not but i dont think they're really planning on it
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[19:59] <intothev01d> no idea about xbmc on raspbian?
[19:59] <Phrewfuf> i will try out raspbmc though, have enough sdcards flying around
[19:59] <Phrewfuf> yeah they had no idea about that console visibility thing
[20:00] <intothev01d> ah
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[20:00] <intothev01d> yea its weired
[20:00] <intothev01d> weird*
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[20:00] <intothev01d> i guess since it doesn't use x maybe it just overlays over the screen or something
[20:00] <intothev01d> no idea
[20:00] <Toothpick> libboost - on the RPi it does not take 10 hours to compile, with distcc it took 1 hour
[20:00] <intothev01d> not only that, my keyboard doesn't work with xbmc on raspbian
[20:00] <Phrewfuf> maybe its just writing directly to framebuffer
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[20:00] <intothev01d> it wont let me type
[20:00] <intothev01d> probably
[20:01] <Phrewfuf> intothev01d: yup...i got nav with KB working as nonroot, but i can't type either
[20:01] <Phrewfuf> and i really do not want to launch it as root
[20:01] <intothev01d> yea so some stuff is messed up there with just the standalone
[20:01] <intothev01d> raspbmc works fine if you're just going to use xbmc mostly
[20:01] <intothev01d> plus you can still get terminal through ssh or just exit xbmc
[20:02] <intothev01d> i dont plan to use it for much else other than xbmc myself
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[20:02] <intothev01d> i'll get another one to tinker with :D
[20:02] <Phrewfuf> i'm just playing around a lot so i just installed raspbian
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[20:02] <Phrewfuf> yeah, having a second rpi is nice
[20:02] <intothev01d> me too, but i ran into the same problems you're having so i'm just gonna give up and use raspbmc for it
[20:03] <Phrewfuf> one becomes "fire and forget" and the other one is a constant construction site
[20:03] <intothev01d> yep
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[20:03] <|Jeroen|> be sure to try openelec, its works faster here then respbmc
[20:04] * Phrewfuf writes that down
[20:05] <intothev01d> i would but from my understanding it's limited in features. like raspbmc is debian, however im not sure what openelec is
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[20:05] <|Jeroen|> dunno either
[20:05] <|Jeroen|> its verry small
[20:05] <Phrewfuf> well...as long as it's possible to install a MPD on that thing, it's fine for me
[20:06] <Phrewfuf> HDMI for XBMC + XBMC-Audio
[20:06] <Phrewfuf> analog out for music
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[20:06] <pioj_> hi
[20:07] <h3sp4wn> I think openelec uses buildroot
[20:07] <Phrewfuf> BWAHAHAHA xbmc in idle: 100% cpu
[20:08] <Phrewfuf> xbmc playing music and displaying this 3d spectrum analyzer in fullscreen: 80%
[20:08] <Phrewfuf> genius
[20:08] <Toothpick> Phrewfuf: do you use cec?
[20:09] <Phrewfuf> Toothpick: right now no, but i will as soon as i get an HDMI capable TV
[20:09] <Phrewfuf> converting HDMI to DVI right now, so no digital audio at all
[20:09] <Phrewfuf> why d' you ask?
[20:09] <h3sp4wn> Or maybe not - geexbox fork (Or maybe just a build of it)
[20:09] <Phrewfuf> geexbox... *shrug*
[20:10] <|Jeroen|> wel isn"t geexbox xmbc there days ?
[20:10] <Toothpick> Phrewfuf: i wonder if my TV supports it
[20:10] <sraue> why users want use xbmc only but complain about "limited features"? and whats limited in openelec ?
[20:11] <Phrewfuf> Toothpick: dunno, but if it detects an active HDMI source and switches to that input, it probably does
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[20:11] <Toothpick> Phrewfuf: yep it does then :)
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[20:11] <pioj_> what's your choice then guys? Raspbmc?
[20:11] <Phrewfuf> i still would like to use the whole advantage of CEC...the whole "control everything via one device" stuff
[20:11] <h3sp4wn> I dunno whether geexbox is based on buildroot or not. (I know for a fact if its openembedded I won't be using it).
[20:13] <|Jeroen|> yeah CEC is nice
[20:13] <|Jeroen|> does geexbox support the PI ?
[20:13] <h3sp4wn> Phrewfuf: I am not sure it actually works like that or has to be certified. (My Panasonic TV & Blu Ray supposidly support it but not like I thought it meant)
[20:13] <sraue> h3sp4wn, geexbox uses a own buildsystem, and openelec's is based on geexbox's... openelec was designed for XBMC, geexbox has talken openelec's packages for xbmc etc and changed to xbmc later
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[20:15] <|Jeroen|> i loved the old geexbox
[20:15] <|Jeroen|> so simpel but fuctinal
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[20:16] <h3sp4wn> I thought it meant you could operate the menus using either remote (Especially with both devices being the same brand and supposidly have viera link which is their name for it) in reality you can turn on or off the devices from either remote or do some very basic stuff (Volume / Play buttons) but it is not that good
[20:16] <sraue> they ditched the old mplayer based GUI for Enna... and Enna was ditched after they have seen OpenELEC is successfully with XBMC
[20:17] <Phrewfuf> h3sp4wn: yeah, they all have their own systems, but essentially it's like CAN-Bus in Cars
[20:17] <|Jeroen|> pitty there is no real competitor for xbmc
[20:17] <|Jeroen|> competition is always good
[20:17] <sraue> mythtv?
[20:18] <h3sp4wn> I dunno much of what I would gain from using xmbc
[20:18] <|Jeroen|> xmbc's pything plugin is kinda crapy
[20:18] <Phrewfuf> the protocol and transmission of data is all the same (two wires, given messages), but the differences are in the data transmitted
[20:18] <pioj_> boxee would be a good competitor
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[20:18] <sraue> boxee is a xbmc fork
[20:18] <|Jeroen|> boxee is xbmc
[20:18] <h3sp4wn> (TV plays everything perfect from DNLA any file format seeking works fine)
[20:18] <FrankBlues> Is mythtv ported to the pi?
[20:18] <sraue> plex too
[20:18] <h3sp4wn> mythtv is a backend really
[20:18] <sraue> no afaik there is no mythtv port for RPi
[20:19] <h3sp4wn> I cannot really use it because we cannot get cable cards in the UK
[20:19] <FrankBlues> Backend might run well on pi, not sure about the frontend.
[20:19] <pioj_> what about that xul player?
[20:19] <Macer> FrankBlues: i'd figure the other way around
[20:19] <h3sp4wn> Macer: Me too
[20:20] <FrankBlues> huh. Maybe one of each...
[20:20] <h3sp4wn> FrankBlues: Tuners and access to disk (The hw encode h264 might be good)
[20:20] <Macer> FrankBlues: the back end is what does the actual processing
[20:20] <Macer> ie: recording, encoding, etc
[20:20] <h3sp4wn> If you ahve to have another box on then it is less useful
[20:20] <Macer> front end just plays it :)
[20:20] <pioj_> What are you using as frontend? I'm using Quartz
[20:20] <Phrewfuf> Macer: yeah, but frontend does the rendering
[20:21] <FrankBlues> But the backend is just taking a MPEG stream over the air and recording it as an MPEG stream on the disk, no?
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[20:22] <h3sp4wn> If you have a hw h264 encoder you might as well do that in real time. I know it is not lightweight at all. (THought people used XBMC as a frontend to Mythtv)
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[20:30] <pioj_> btw, Are you guys using Pi to play games?
[20:31] <TAFB_ssd> quake3 baby :)
[20:31] <TAFB_ssd> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTY_ch2qNII
[20:31] <FrankBlues> Looking forward to Minecraft
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[20:35] <pioj_> aha ok, so anything based on idtech3 is going to work
[20:35] <pioj_> what about emulators?
[20:35] <DeliriumTremens> pioj_: check out retropie
[20:35] <|Jeroen|> ow yeah i testes 256 256 split and it seems to also work faster
[20:36] <pioj_> I checked the video, nothing else
[20:36] <DeliriumTremens> i successfully used retropie
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[20:36] <frikinz> What's your best uptime on the raspberry pi?
[20:36] <DeliriumTremens> not all the emus, but used SNES, NES, 2600, and MAME
[20:36] <|Jeroen|> ola retropi sounds nice
[20:37] <DeliriumTremens> pioj_: i gave up using it since i couldnt get integration with XBMC to work, but i wanted to get a couple of these for emulation http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/ecea/?pfm=Search&t=8bitty
[20:37] <Phrewfuf> |Jeroen|: i heard someone saying the GPU won't need more than 128, did you monitor usage?
[20:37] <|Jeroen|> no
[20:37] <|Jeroen|> but xmbc always has loads free
[20:37] <frikinz> I didn't manage more than 5 days until now. With a small server and some gpio stuffs
[20:38] <|Jeroen|> how can u watch video ram?
[20:38] <Phrewfuf> hm, i have no idea, actually
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[20:39] <pioj_> I'm planning on having my Pi only for xbmc as a media center, and a BeagleboardXM as an emulator machine...
[20:40] <pioj_> that's why I'm asking about it..
[20:41] <|Jeroen|> lol playing a full hd leaves more free system ram then an old xvid
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[20:43] <Phrewfuf> |Jeroen|: as i said before, xbmc in idle needs more CPUtime than when playing music and rendering a spectrum analyzer :D
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[20:44] <|Jeroen|> strange huh
[20:44] <Phrewfuf> indeed
[20:44] <Phrewfuf> makes no sense at all
[20:44] <|Jeroen|> indeed 70% cpu now
[20:44] <|Jeroen|> idle is 99
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[20:45] <Phrewfuf> that is some serious bovine feces there, isn't it? :D
[20:45] <Kisume> Oh god it arrived!
[20:45] <|Jeroen|> probably the xbmc gui refeshes to mutch or solthing
[20:45] <Kisume> But it has broken seals. :<
[20:45] <pioj_> someone has already played wit yours? XDD
[20:46] <pioj_> with*
[20:46] <|Jeroen|> proably the posman
[20:46] <|Jeroen|> postman
[20:46] <Kisume> Probably!
[20:46] <Kisume> (It was probably because it wasn't packed in a cardboard box, the box is REALLY damaged but the Pi works.)
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[20:46] <Kisume> Or customs.
[20:47] <Kisume> Probably customs.
[20:47] <pioj_> http://i431.photobucket.com/albums/qq39/Apemaster/troll_postman001.jpg
[20:47] <|Jeroen|> they probably stole the extra drugs in there
[20:48] <Kisume> No, these are still there.
[20:48] <Phrewfuf> Kisume: we did a bulk order here (10 people wanted some Pis) and they came in a paperbag
[20:48] <Kisume> Wow...
[20:48] <Kisume> Ordered from RS?
[20:49] <|Jeroen|> lool, pis in a paper bag
[20:49] <Phrewfuf> most boxes were partly broken, the bag was full of pink crumbles
[20:49] <Phrewfuf> yeah, i think it was RS
[20:49] <Kisume> I am absolutely clueless to why RS uses paper envelopes.
[20:49] <Kisume> Also, mine went through Germany, for some reason.
[20:49] <Kisume> Double customs all the way, etc.
[20:49] <Phrewfuf> ours too...
[20:49] <intothev01d> RS sucks
[20:50] <Phrewfuf> but i think it had something to do with the fact of me living there :D
[20:50] <Kisume> ... That makes sense!
[20:50] * Kisume lives in The Netherlands. But I guess German Postalservice is just better.
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[20:50] <Phrewfuf> good joke there, mate :D
[20:50] <Phrewfuf> german postalservice being better :D
[20:51] <Kisume> I've had 2 weeks of delay here...
[20:51] <|Jeroen|> mine tooks months to arrive
[20:51] <Kisume> "Invalid if broken"... now the question is, what becomes invalid?
[20:51] <Phrewfuf> our bulk order took 2-3 months
[20:51] <Kisume> My warranty? The raspberry pi? My sanity?
[20:51] <amackera> just powerd on my rpi for the first time, i have to say this thing is awesome
[20:52] <Phrewfuf> amackera: have fun ^^
[20:52] <amackera> ^_^
[20:53] <amackera> trying to decide if i want to install a window manager on it or not
[20:53] <Phrewfuf> what do you wanna do with it?
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[20:53] <amackera> i'm not totally sure, probably host a webserver for a bit
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[20:53] <amackera> maybe make it the basis of a file server / archive system i've been thinking of
[20:53] <Phrewfuf> then you probably don't need windows
[20:54] <amackera> yeah, true
[20:55] <Torikun> yo
[20:55] <Torikun> keep in mind io is slow on the pi
[20:55] <Torikun> not good for a nas
[20:56] <Torikun> i tried it recently as a time machine server
[20:56] <pioj_> just put dropbear and lighttpd and you'll be fine
[20:56] <Phrewfuf> is the IO really that bad?
[20:56] <Phrewfuf> Torikun: did you write to sdcard?
[20:56] <Torikun> it took 6 hourd or more to backup 166gb toi usb hd
[20:56] <Phrewfuf> hmm..
[20:56] <Torikun> typing is bad on tablet
[20:56] <Phrewfuf> that is indeed a bit slow
[20:57] <Torikun> so savd yourself the pain
[20:57] <amackera> ah, good point
[20:57] <amackera> hadn't considered that
[20:57] <Torikun> eveything on the pi is on 1 controller
[20:57] <Kisume> Okay so my HDMI cable is still not in the mail... I'm tempted to go for a bad SSH-job.
[20:57] <Kisume> Shall I?
[20:57] <Torikun> yeah
[20:57] <Torikun> why not
[20:58] <Phrewfuf> do it!
[20:58] <amackera> Kisume: no reason you can't use SSH
[20:58] <Kisume> True!
[20:58] <Kisume> I shall SSH!
[20:58] <|Jeroen|> lool
[20:58] <erska> Torikun: that's around 8 MB/s, so it's not horribly bad.. maybe the 100mbit LAN is the limiting factor there
[20:58] <Torikun> strong with the terminal is he
[20:58] <|Jeroen|> ascci xbmc
[20:58] <Kisume> And I only have a micro-SD, but I should have this adapter somewhere...
[20:58] <Kisume> If I wouldn't be so chaotic this could be easy.
[20:58] <Phrewfuf> Torikun: erska has a point there...
[20:58] <Torikun> when you want to restore your mac it is
[20:59] <Torikun> and want to do a backuo
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[20:59] <Torikun> can you put up with that speed?
[20:59] <Torikun> please test for yourself ofcourse for experience
[21:00] <Phrewfuf> 100MBit is 12.5 MByte/s
[21:00] <gordonDrogon> a quick favour - can anyone see https://projects.drogon.net/ or do you get a blank page?
[21:00] <Phrewfuf> cut away overhead and stuff like that, 8MB/s is a fine speed for a 100MBit connection
[21:00] <Torikun> regukar usb shoukd have taken about 3 hourd
[21:01] <Torikun> via ethernet to usb was 6 or more
[21:01] <entite42> it's 2/3 ... bad
[21:01] <amackera> gordonDrogon: i see a blank page
[21:01] <Phrewfuf> Torikun: yeah ethernet is the bottleneck there
[21:01] <gordonDrogon> amackera, ok, thanks. looks like something's broken )-:
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[21:01] <Torikun> phrewfuf maybr nic bonding is the solution
[21:02] <Phrewfuf> haha, RPi cluster? :D
[21:02] <Torikun> lol
[21:02] <amackera> yeah baby!
[21:02] <Phrewfuf> hm...i could try it...two pi cluster
[21:03] <Torikun> what software
[21:03] <Phrewfuf> good question
[21:03] <Torikun> pacemaker
[21:03] <Phrewfuf> yeah, but what to do with 200mbit of data?
[21:03] <Torikun> probably all there is for arm
[21:03] <pioj_> why not? Could make an excellent gaming rig once tweaked propperly
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[21:14] <J_Rey> so I would assume so but is composite video supported? I'm mostly only hearing about HDMI setups
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[21:19] <Phrewfuf> hm, watched a 720p video for about half an hour at medium overclock
[21:20] <Phrewfuf> surface temperature of IC2 about 37??C
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[21:27] <Amadiro> Phrewfuf, you can get the temperature of the internal sensor using "vcgencmd measure_temp" or so
[21:30] <Phrewfuf> Amadiro: yeah, i know, xbmc also displays it, but i'm too lazy to calculate F into C, so i'm just measuring surface with IR meter and guessing the coretemp
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[21:31] <Phrewfuf> 38??C surface is about 45-50??C core
[21:32] <|Jeroen|> ascci xbmc
[21:32] <|Jeroen|> oeps
[21:32] <|Jeroen|> wrong key
[21:34] <clear`> anyone created their own power supply for the pi?
[21:34] <clear`> instead of the usb wall charger?
[21:34] <|Jeroen|> well i use a transfo
[21:35] <Phrewfuf> clear`: it is a bit worthless as long as RG2 is a linear regulator
[21:35] <Phrewfuf> maybe RG1 is also a linear one
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[21:36] <Phrewfuf> those waste too much power so one would want to replace those
[21:36] <clear`> i know its worthless, i just haven an idea i want to try :P
[21:36] <clear`> i want to make a case with an onboard usb hub and power supply
[21:36] <Phrewfuf> clear`: well whatever spits out regulated 5V should be fine
[21:36] <clear`> just have one power cord coming in to work both usb hub and pi
[21:36] <Phrewfuf> you could connect the pi to the USB hub :D
[21:36] <clear`> and possibly other addons
[21:37] <clear`> so power in to usb hub, power out of hub to po
[21:37] <clear`> pi*
[21:37] <clear`> didnt think of that!
[21:37] <Phrewfuf> yeah, but then you may end up having not enough power for the pi
[21:37] <|Jeroen|> lol, keep it simple
[21:37] <Phrewfuf> though 500mA from USB is not that far from 700mA fuse rating
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[21:38] <clear`> hmm, would want to get more than 700mA to the pi tho
[21:38] <Phrewfuf> then you would need the fusehaclk
[21:38] <Phrewfuf> fusehack*
[21:39] <clear`> yea
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[21:40] <clear`> will be a fun project
[21:41] <Kisume> RS, I am disappointed.
[21:41] <h3sp4wn> Everything that should be necessary is in the Atrix HD Dock. (??25 get a psu bluetooth keyboard / mouse / psu / usb hub / remote / supports otg and usb ports through it)
[21:41] <Kisume> 1) Seals broken. 2) Pi didn't fit in case. 3) Paper envelope, what.
[21:42] <h3sp4wn> Won't look nice without hacking it to bits.
[21:42] <Phrewfuf> Kisume: pi didn't fit in case?
[21:42] <Kisume> Couldn't get it in there without risking me breaking the bord.
[21:42] <Kisume> *board
[21:42] <Phrewfuf> what case?
[21:42] <Kisume> The RS clear case.
[21:42] <Phrewfuf> ah
[21:42] <Kisume> Managed to fix it now though.
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[21:43] <Phrewfuf> Wenn mir auch nur eine in die hand gedr??ckt
[21:43] <Phrewfuf> wird, werde ich massenweise anticreepercards ausdrucken.
[21:43] <Phrewfuf> ah wtf
[21:44] <Phrewfuf> why on earth did this get pasted in here
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[21:45] <clear`> h3sp4wn: http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Multimedia-4G-Motorola-Retail-Packaging/dp/B004LWYYZ0
[21:45] <clear`> that dock?
[21:46] <clear`> looks like it has everything!
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[21:48] <Phrewfuf> interesting, my xbmc fullscreen console issue somehow resolved itself
[21:48] <Phrewfuf> i can't see console output when watching videos anymore
[21:48] <clear`> Phrewfuf: you using openelec?
[21:48] <Phrewfuf> nope
[21:49] <Phrewfuf> raspbian with xbmc-standalone
[21:49] <clear`> oh, im going to attempt that soon
[21:49] <clear`> openelec worked for me one day, turned it on the next and nothing
[21:49] <clear`> i think my power supply is too weak tho
[21:49] <clear`> my pi will work with 1 tv but not another
[21:49] <Phrewfuf> ^oo
[21:49] <Phrewfuf> oO
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[21:54] <netw1z> anyone using bluetooth audio with their rPI?
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[21:57] <gordonDrogon> amackera, thanks - looks like the w3cache plugin was borked - probably after the update earlier to fix a bug that was published.
[21:58] <clear`> gordonDrogon: be careful with the w3cache plugin for wordpress (i am guessing thats the one you are using)
[22:00] <clear`> looking for the article now, but i would imagine the new update fixes the exploit
[22:01] <clear`> http://blog.sucuri.net/2012/12/w3-total-cache-implementation-vulnerability.html
[22:01] <gordonDrogon> clear`, yes - and I'd applied their update either last night or this morning too.
[22:03] <gordonDrogon> I might leave it a revision before re-installing it..
[22:04] <clear`> i always remove the plugin and let others test the updates for a few days if not a few weeks before i install the plugin again
[22:05] <gordonDrogon> when there's a vulnerability, I presume?
[22:05] <gordonDrogon> I don't use many at all on my site there- just the theme, wp-spamfree, an enhanved tinymce and the seo one.
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[22:07] <gordonDrogon> oh the joys of wordpress!
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[22:08] <clear`> lol
[22:08] <clear`> yes whenever any vulnerabilities are found
[22:09] <clear`> i have a ton of wordpress installs, for clients
[22:09] <clear`> themes, i have my developer go through and make sure everything is secure
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[22:11] <confusid> I'm trying to use motion with 2 camera and it runs for a few minutes then it shuts down.
[22:12] <confusid> Not sure what is causing it to stop. Using a 3.5A usb hub so it has plenty of power. Web Cams use 500ma each. No other usb items plugged in.
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[22:31] <frxstrem> can anyone help me disable password logins on SSH on Raspberry Pi, because I can't make it work
[22:32] <ParkerR_> frxstrem: What are you using to SSH in?
[22:32] <confusid> I'm not sure I understand the question.
[22:32] <ParkerR_> Like what are you using to SSH into the Pi
[22:32] <frxstrem> ParkerR_: OpenSSH
[22:32] <ParkerR_> Another linux box? Windows? Mac?
[22:33] <frxstrem> Debian machine
[22:33] <ParkerR_> Ok sweet
[22:33] <frxstrem> though I don't think that's really relevant
[22:33] <ParkerR_> Kinda is
[22:33] <ParkerR_> Pubkey auth
[22:33] <frxstrem> already using it
[22:33] <ParkerR_> One second
[22:33] <ParkerR_> Oh?
[22:33] <rikkib> RSAAuthentication no
[22:33] <rikkib> PubkeyAuthentication yes
[22:33] <rikkib> AuthorizedKeysFile %h/.ssh/authorized_keys
[22:33] <rikkib> /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[22:34] <frxstrem> I've already set up keys on the Raspberry, I just can't disable passwords (I've tried adding 'PasswordAuthentication no' to sshd_config, didn't work)
[22:34] <rikkib> Create a public key and load it into that file
[22:34] <ParkerR_> Ok one sec
[22:35] <rikkib> PasswordAuthentication yes change to no
[22:35] <rikkib> restart the daemon
[22:35] <rikkib> /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[22:35] <frxstrem> already done it
[22:35] <frxstrem> didn't work
[22:36] <frxstrem> (here's my sshd_config: http://pastebin.com/khy6UyHy)
[22:36] <frxstrem> I've even restarted the entire Pi, still didn't work
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[22:38] <rikkib> Check known_hosts in your user .ssh dir
[22:38] <frxstrem> on the pi?
[22:38] <rikkib> The PC you are trying to log in from
[22:38] <rikkib> If unix
[22:39] <rikkib> If windows... I do not know
[22:39] <frxstrem> shouldn't be anything wrong with it
[22:39] <frxstrem> (yes, I'm using Linux)
[22:39] <ParkerR_> frxstrem: Ok run on the debian machine not the Pi ssh-copy-id -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa.pub piusername@piip
[22:39] <rikkib> Check strict setting in your client
[22:39] <ParkerR_> And then just try a normal ssh login
[22:39] <ParkerR_> It should go automatically
[22:39] <frxstrem> it does
[22:39] <frxstrem> that's not the problem
[22:40] <ParkerR_> bbdsfhbsfd
[22:40] <frxstrem> the problem isn't that I can't get keys to work, they work fine
[22:40] <frxstrem> the problem is that I don't want password to still work
[22:40] <frxstrem> which they do
[22:40] <frxstrem> no matter what I try
[22:40] <frxstrem> (other than killing the entire SSH server, but that won't do me any good)
[22:40] <ParkerR_> http://kaotickreation.com/2008/05/21/disable-ssh-password-authentication-for-added-security/
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[22:42] <ParkerR_> ChallengeResponseAuthentication no
[22:42] <ParkerR_> PasswordAuthentication no
[22:42] <ParkerR_> UsePAM no
[22:43] <ParkerR_> Try those 3 and rebooting
[22:43] <frxstrem> ParkerR_: I changed those three, they worked, thanks
[22:43] <ParkerR_> Noproblem
[22:43] <ParkerR_> *No problem
[22:43] <ParkerR_> (Google is your friend, not you enemy https://www.google.com/search?q=ssh+diable+password+auth )
[22:43] <ParkerR_> *your
[22:45] <rikkib> Google is... A pest when it comes to the way they rape your web site. Specially ftp servers and php calendars
[22:46] <rikkib> So much so I block access to my ftp server from google
[22:46] <Neqoxec> when I play audio over hdmi, I get sound for a split second before it cuts out with no errors. Not really sure where to start, should I toy around with alsa configs?
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[22:47] <SpeedEvil> rikkib: robots.text
[22:47] <rikkib> haha
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[22:48] <rikkib> the ftp protcol does not have robots.txt I think
[22:49] <rikkib> I use multiple methods to keep bad people out... And there they stay forever.
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[22:50] <rikkib> I did run into a user here that was blocked recently... Otherwise it is not likely I will ever know of care.
[22:51] <rikkib> or care
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[22:52] <rikkib> I actively monitor traffic, tcpdump runs all the time on this gateway, and take action to block... As well as port sentry triggers wich auto add to hosts.deny.
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[22:55] <rikkib> If I had a better machine I would run file monitoring and catch them in the act... My hdd's are to full so had to shut that down... https://krebsonsecurity.com/2011/01/battling-the-zombie-web-site-armies/#more-7522
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[23:57] <gluxon> Is backfeeding power supplies good or bad?
[23:57] <gluxon> Or does it depend on scenario?
[23:58] <gluxon> I realize what backfeeding is, just not the effects of it.
[23:58] <Kisume> I'm still unsure if I should mail RS about these broken seals or if I shouldn't.
[23:59] <Kisume> I can't really be bothered to send it back...

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