#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2012-12-31

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[0:00] <frikinz> you can code all the server part in python probably. I've done something similar (really just of proof of concept): http://teebee.n0n3m.com:666/?refresh=1000 . there's no webserver running
[0:01] <SuperMiguel> frikinz: is that for me?
[0:01] <mdszy> SuperMiguel, no
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[0:02] <mdszy> SuperMiguel, I had the same issue
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[0:02] <mdszy> and while I can't explain to you exactly how to solve it (I can't really remember)
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[0:02] <mdszy> what I did was put the SD card into my computer, and manually edited files and such to make it start the SSh server on boot
[0:02] <SuperMiguel> mdszy: gotcha
[0:03] <mdszy> SuperMiguel, hope that helps
[0:03] <SuperMiguel> ill try now
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[0:06] * IT_Sean has a look 'round
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[0:08] <mdszy> sj
[0:08] <mdszy> whoops
[0:08] <IT_Sean> AHA!
[0:08] <IT_Sean> A LIVE PERSON!
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[0:09] <mdszy> lol
[0:09] <mdszy> there are a few of those in here, don't worry
[0:09] <IT_Sean> there are!?
[0:09] <IT_Sean> O_O
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[0:09] <morsik> lol
[0:09] <mdszy> nope, there are only 460 people in here and none of them are alive
[0:10] <IT_Sean> that would explain the smell.
[0:10] <mdszy> hah
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[0:11] <mdszy> I hate how I can't really use my Pi as a web server, or any sort of real server
[0:11] <mdszy> since I can't forward ports
[0:11] <mdszy> because our network setup is weird and the router-thing I'd need to set up forwarding on is from our ISP, who won't tell me the password to it (because my dad is the one who pays the bills)
[0:11] <frikinz> mdszy: why not?
[0:12] <frikinz> ah typical ISP provided routers
[0:12] <mdszy> yup
[0:12] <frikinz> (in companies) where you have to call or even sometimes pay to "open a port" ahah
[0:12] <mdszy> nah, I don't need to call to get them to open the port
[0:13] <mdszy> I just need to call to get the password to get to the admin page of the router
[0:13] <IT_Sean> get your dad to call, then.
[0:13] <morsik> you won't get pass to admin page
[0:13] <mdszy> I've asked him to, and he hasn't
[0:13] <morsik> because they probably use the same pass on every router :D
[0:13] <mdszy> /won't/doesn't want to/is to busy/etc.
[0:13] <mdszy> *too
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[0:14] <morsik> wrong sentence? :< >>> they doesn't give you*
[0:14] <morsik> :D
[0:14] <morsik> you have 2 options: crack the password, buy router by yourself and configure it and rule the world
[0:15] <morsik> ... at least world in your home area ;D
[0:15] <mdszy> morsik, our network setup is weird
[0:15] <mdszy> we have this router that's owned by our ISP in our basement
[0:15] <mdszy> and then we have another router (upstream from this one) that's owned by us
[0:15] <mdszy> that's the one everything is actually connected to
[0:15] <morsik> ohh
[0:15] <morsik> ok, i understand
[0:16] <IT_Sean> I'd be willing to bet they wouldn't give your dad the password, either. If they wanted you to have the pass, it would be on the router, or in the literature that you got when you started the service.
[0:16] <morsik> i have the same problem in my student's flat...
[0:16] <mdszy> ah
[0:16] <morsik> double NAT...
[0:16] <mdszy> mmhm
[0:16] <morsik> mdszy: easiest way is to talk to some shell-accounts admin to buy public ip and connect raspberry to shell via vpn
[0:17] <mdszy> I'd rather not have to pay for more than I have to
[0:17] <lee> easiest bet would be replace the ISP router with your own kit that you have full contorl over
[0:17] <mdszy> lee, I don't now if I could do that without my dad getting angry over it and without messing up some weird obscure setting they have on their router
[0:17] <morsik> lee: but he has double nat ;p it's impossible in such setup
[0:18] <mdszy> hell, I moved the router between rooms and he yelled at me for it XD
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[0:18] <morsik> isp's router is probably full owned by isp, and probably not only mdszy uses their's router
[0:18] <mdszy> morsik, huh? Oh no, that's not the case
[0:18] <lee> oh, it's shared amongst other tenants?
[0:18] <mdszy> we're the absolute only ones using it
[0:18] <mdszy> nope
[0:18] <mdszy> we live in our own house XD
[0:18] <morsik> ahh
[0:19] <morsik> ok ok, i misunderstood
[0:19] <jus10> mdszy: is this fios?
[0:19] <lee> bugger that then, get control of it or replace it with something you have full control over
[0:19] <mdszy> jus10, nope
[0:19] <mdszy> it's just a silly local ISP who I don't want to have to deal with
[0:19] <lee> NAT is bad enough, double NAT is the devil in packet form
[0:19] <mdszy> lee, again, there might be some strange setting they have that getting my own router wouldn't do, and it'd all break
[0:19] <morsik> yes, better buy router - or if you have it already, just connect it more correctly to fit your needs
[0:19] <jus10> mdszy: is the router you control behind the isp's router or the other way around?
[0:20] <mdszy> well it's like
[0:20] <mdszy> Connection to ISP --> ISP Router --> Our router --> Everything on the network
[0:20] <lee> mdszy: what type of connection is going to the ISP one? unless you have some magic VPN setup there's almost certainly nothing special on it
[0:20] <mdszy> if that makes sense
[0:20] <IT_Sean> The ISP probably has some hanky settings going on to firce you to ue their router, which they control.
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[0:20] <mdszy> exactly what I'm thinking, IT_Sean
[0:20] <jus10> mdszy: it does.
[0:21] <frikinz> And you probably pay some money every month for the nice locked router eh
[0:21] <IT_Sean> Indeed
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[0:21] <morsik> But there are many possibilities... MAC filtering, PPPoE auth, or similar things ;x
[0:21] <lee> yeah but like what? besides something VPN related I can't think of anything that would be on a CPE level router that can't be easily replicated
[0:21] <jus10> mac filtering isn't a problem. PPPoE auth isn't a problem if you know the login information
[0:22] <mdszy> but again, I can't get into the router to see if this all true or not
[0:22] <IT_Sean> they may not ive you that information, though, is the thing.
[0:22] <morsik> jus10: yes, but if this is isp router... you don't need to know login/pass
[0:22] <lee> call them up and ask them what is so special about their router that you can't replace it with your own
[0:23] <jus10> morsik: yes, but i also would never pay for internet service which is effectively nat'ed
[0:23] <IT_Sean> that's a waste of time. The phone people won't know. They will just read from their script.
[0:23] <mdszy> IT_Sean, exactly, it's a small-town ISP too, so that's probably exactly the case
[0:23] <jus10> i have a "real" ipv6 connection these days. the pi has a "real" routable ipv6 address
[0:23] <morsik> jus10: in some places it's impossible to buy another internet service...
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[0:24] <jus10> morsik: I know
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[0:24] <frikinz> I have ipv6 possibility but not using it. Not sure why I would need it unless hosting at least 2 webservers.
[0:25] <jus10> frikinz: it's all about the dancing kame
[0:25] <mdszy> But it's not a big deal anyways
[0:25] <mdszy> I'll just have to find something else to do with the thing!
[0:25] <nphase> anyone have any luck with PyQT going fullscreen on raspbian? trying to get my app to go fullscreen (https://github.com/nphase/qt-ping-grapher)
[0:26] <frikinz> jus10: interesting indeed :)
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[0:30] <netw1z> aww yeah! audio over bluetooth!#@
[0:30] <netw1z> what a struggle!
[0:30] <IT_Sean> got it working?
[0:31] <netw1z> yeah
[0:31] <netw1z> just as i was about to quit and sell the rPi to someone
[0:32] <netw1z> still so problems to solve n ill do a write up about it
[0:32] <IT_Sean> Neat
[0:32] <bs123> i buy it!
[0:32] <bs123> lol
[0:32] <bs123> nice
[0:33] <netw1z> seems like they are about to flood the market
[0:33] <bs123> bluetooth dongle?
[0:33] * IT_Sean starts the bidding at ??1
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[0:33] <bs123> usb?
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[0:35] <IT_Sean> USB is generally how one would connect a bluetooth dongle to a pi, so...
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[0:35] <netw1z> yeah
[0:36] <netw1z> dongle, not up to breakout boards quite yet
[0:36] <netw1z> just started
[0:36] <bs123> nice
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[0:37] <bs123> where you gonna post write up?
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[0:37] <netw1z> probably on me dusty website
[0:37] <netw1z> its hard to make a blog man
[0:37] <bs123> np
[0:37] <netw1z> how do people do it and still do other things?
[0:37] <bs123> i'd just be interested in it
[0:37] <clear`> lol
[0:37] <bs123> idk
[0:37] <clear`> wordpress bro
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[0:38] <netw1z> yeah i slammed one up, but i just cant seem to get into updating it regularly enough to make it interesting for me to post
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[0:38] <netw1z> ill try real hard this time i swear
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[0:39] <netw1z> what are people making with their rpI on here?
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[0:41] <bs123> well i just got mine and im on vacation so i haven't done much with it....but xbmc works nice on it so far
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[0:43] <bs123> IT_Sean it was my extended question usb dongle..:) smart***
[0:43] <bs123> :)
[0:43] <IT_Sean> i haven't got one
[0:43] <IT_Sean> ahh :p
[0:43] <bs123> why not?
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[0:43] <IT_Sean> Just haven't got 'round to ordering one. Haven't decided what i'd do with one. Etc...
[0:43] <bs123> ahh ic
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[0:44] <bs123> good night
[0:44] <bs123> :P
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[0:47] <Toothpick> TomWij: are you here by any change?
[0:47] <TomWij> Toothpick: pong!
[0:48] <Toothpick> TomWij: haha :D
[0:48] <Toothpick> TomWij: when trying to compile xbmc i encountered the following error: http://bpaste.net/show/67320/
[0:49] <Toothpick> TomWij: i added "--disable-mysql" to the econf but it still persists
[0:49] <TomWij> Toothpick: Weird, I don't recall that as an error for me. Let me check...
[0:50] <TomWij> Toothpick: I confirm that I have the --disable-mysql parameter.
[0:50] <Toothpick> TomWij: http://bpaste.net/show/67354/
[0:51] <Toothpick> == /usr/local/portage/media-tv/xbmc/xbmc-9999.ebuild
[0:51] <TomWij> Toothpick: No check is made for me, please share the /var/tmp/portage/CATEGORY/PACKAGE/work/PACKAGE-VERSION/config.log file.
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[0:52] <Toothpick> localhost distfiles # cat /var/tmp/portage/media-tv/xbmc-9999/work/xbmc-9999/config.log | wgetpaste
[0:52] <Toothpick> Your paste can be seen here: http://bpaste.net/show/67355/
[0:52] * Milos is now known as akiwigirl
[0:52] <TomWij> Toothpick: Also, on a side note, I have --disable-gl since it will use --enable-gles; also, optimizations are supported so you might consider enabling them as well.
[0:52] <TomWij> Toothpick: You can `wgetpaste file` in the future. :D
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[0:53] <Toothpick> lol good idea
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[0:53] <TomWij> Toothpick: $ ./configure --prefix=/usr --build=armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi --host=armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi --mandir=/usr/share/man --infodir=/usr/share/info --datadir=/usr/share --sysconfdir=/etc --localstatedir=/var/lib --disable-dependency-tracking --with-platform=raspberry-pi
[0:53] <TomWij> How are you emerging it?
[0:53] <Toothpick> TomWij: emerge xbmc ...
[0:54] <TomWij> "emerge", not "ebuild"?
[0:54] <TomWij> Toothpick: Okay, if it's "emerge" I think it's not picking up your local ebuild...
[0:54] <Toothpick> TomWij: i rather have the package in world, so i can modify it easier later on
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[0:55] <TomWij> Toothpick: You can manually edit /var/lib/portage/world if you need later, there's also something like `emerge --noreplace ATOM` to add it without re-emerging.
[0:55] <TomWij> So yeah, it's just not picking up your local overlay ebuild.
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[0:56] <Toothpick> TomWij: for what reason?
[0:57] <TomWij> 1) Is the variable I told you a while ago still in your make.conf? 2) Does it complain about manifesting? 3) What ebuild does it tell you that it is emerging? It should put ::something after the version where "gentoo" would be portage and otherwise it would give you the name you set the local overlay to ("x-portage" if you set no name yet).
[0:57] <TomWij> (PORTDIR_OVERLAY I believe the name of that variable was)
[0:58] <Toothpick> 1) i have "PORTDIR_OVERLAY="/usr/local/portage/"" in my /etc/make.conf
[0:59] <Toothpick> 2) it complains about manifesting only when i change the ebuild without updating the manifest later
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[1:03] <Toothpick> TomWij: it says "media-tv/xbmc-9999::x-portage" in the name of the package
[1:03] <TomWij> Toothpick: Okay, do you use FEATURES="keepwork" by accident?
[1:03] <Toothpick> TomWij: no, i use FEATURES="distcc"
[1:03] <TomWij> Since it isn't picking up the ebuild change.
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[1:04] <TomWij> So what you'll want to do is remove /var/tmp/portage/media-tv/xbmc-9999 so it picks up the changes.
[1:05] <TomWij> Another way is to remove /var/tmp/portage/media-tv/xbmc-9999/temp/environment and /var/tmp/portage/media-tv/xbmc-9999/.configured which will keep the preparation work.
[1:05] <Toothpick> TomWij: good idea
[1:05] <Toothpick> TomWij: maybe i will remove all of /var/tmp/portage/media-tv/xbmc-9999?
[1:06] <TomWij> (environment copies the ebuild and other files into one file together, removing that file is a necessity to get it to copy the ebuild again and thus the changes)
[1:06] <TomWij> Oh, I think since it didn't finish ./configure there even is no .configured.
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[1:06] <TomWij> So removing just /var/tmp/portage/media-tv/xbmc-9999/temp/environment should get you going.
[1:06] <TomWij> Although... The ebuild is supposed to do that. :S
[1:06] <TomWij> s/ebuild/emerge/
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[1:07] <TomWij> I just don't get why a `emerge xbmc` doesn't pick up the changes, the only occasion I have seen so far is when you have FEATURES="keepwork" set, so something strange is going on.
[1:08] <TomWij> What I did was just `rm /path/to/temp/environment && ebuild ... manifest merge` over and over till it works, as that avoids you doing work again and again
[1:08] <TomWij> And to start a phase again you can remove the .configured file for instance.
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[1:09] <Toothpick> TomWij: you gave me some good tips, i'll apply them and see if i got any changes
[1:09] <TomWij> Be warned that this works better for the configure phase than the compile phase, since removing the environment file can break distcc :P
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[1:10] <TomWij> (The distcc path will just end up double in the PATH environment variable in the environment file, it's easy to fix by just removing one occurence of the path; it gets rid of a recursive error)
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[1:19] <ShaggyInc> hi
[1:20] <Toothpick> TomWij: it is going to take a while until i get to the same point i encounter, thanks for now :)
[1:20] * ShaggyInc just ordered a Pi
[1:20] <Toothpick> ShaggyInc: mazal tov
[1:21] <TomWij> Toothpick: I guess you're like me and didn't set up a ccache yet... :D
[1:22] <Toothpick> TomWij: that's right :)
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[1:23] <Toothpick> i'm going to sleep because it's very late here
[1:24] <Toothpick> see you tomorrow, and thanks very much TomWij ! :)
[1:24] <TomWij> Toothpick: Nope, good luck on getting XBMC going, takes a few times but the result pays off.
[1:24] <TomWij> And you've got the good settings already... :D
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[1:26] <mweltin> having trouble driving a servo with servoblaster.
[1:27] <mweltin> I have a model B revision 1 board and I have a circuit driving the servo.
[1:27] <mweltin> but no matter what I write to /dev/servoblaster the servo will turn in only one direction.
[1:28] <mweltin> anyone have any idea what I might be doing wrong.
[1:29] <pksato> ref. to servoblaster?
[1:29] <mweltin> it's a kernel module for driving servo moters.
[1:30] <atouk> if it's working at all, but in only one direction, i'd check wiring
[1:30] <pksato> have a more what one to do it.
[1:30] <mweltin> atouk I have quadrupal checked the wiring.
[1:31] <lkm_ftw> mweltin: so do you think the kernel module is messed up?
[1:31] <mweltin> I even went and bought a brand new servo today just to make sure it wasn't the servo.
[1:31] <lkm_ftw> mweltin: was the module written for your specific piece of hardware?
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[1:31] <TomWij> mweltin: Did you read the documentation for that kernel module (if any)? Through which interface is the servoblaster connected? Could you maybe check out in the kernel source how the things you write to that device are interpreted? Perhaps rotating to the other side is just a negative value?
[1:31] <mweltin> lkm_ftw: no I don't think it's messed up. it was written for the raspberrypi.
[1:32] <pksato> mweltin: if set 260, and back to 90? no revert?
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[1:32] <pksato> Degres.
[1:32] <mweltin> pksato: yes.
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[1:33] <mweltin> TomWij: My C is ok, but I have only written kernel mod once and that was long ago.
[1:33] <mweltin> The docs expect a 600kHz clock.
[1:33] <pksato> and, dont stop?
[1:34] <TomWij> mweltin: Have you read https://github.com/richardghirst/PiBits/tree/master/ServoBlaster?
[1:34] <mweltin> When I was checking online how to find the pi's clk speed I found it to be 700Khz
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[1:34] <mweltin> pksato: yes doesn't stop.
[1:34] <mweltin> TomWij: yes I have read that many times, and even have been working with the command line paramters tick_scale can
[1:35] <mweltin> cycle_ticks
[1:35] <pksato> mweltin: have a osciloscope?
[1:35] <mweltin> pksato: saddly no.
[1:35] <pksato> me to. I need one. :P
[1:36] <mweltin> the guy that wrote servoblaster also wrote panalyzer which is a "scope" built off a pi, but I'm not sure that will help.
[1:36] <pksato> voltamenter? or frequency counter? a sound card with line input and spare parts?
[1:36] <mweltin> I have a multi meter.
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[1:36] <mweltin> I haven't used it's frequence function yet.
[1:37] <TomWij> mweltin: Did you try the script by Todd at the end? http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=15011&start=25#p187675
[1:37] <TomWij> Seems like a nice interface, you could see how that one behaves.
[1:37] <pksato> humm. conflict with gpio module?
[1:37] <mweltin> TomWij: yes, but I get teh same behavior.
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[1:41] <SuperMiguel> any one has a webcam server running?
[1:41] <mweltin> I think it's time I invest in a real o-scope.
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[1:43] <mweltin> I'll try the newest version of the kenrel as well. I got my pi several months ago. I just read a bit where the servo driver author recommends the lastest buid.
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[1:45] <mweltin> so while I'm here, anyone ever make an image with an RT (real time) OS?
[1:45] <mweltin> or make their own bootable image with an application specific program (no OS)
[1:47] <TomWij> I might be planning to apply RT patches over time.
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[1:48] <mweltin> The last time I did stuff like this it was on a phi
[1:48] <mweltin> phillips lpc2100 seriers arm.
[1:49] <mweltin> it was much easier to something with interrupts rather than polling.
[1:49] <TomWij> Although at the moment it does XBMC playback as fluent as it can be so I see no need to make it any better than it already is.
[1:49] <mweltin> well it's nice to know this irc is so active, I'm sure I'll be back.
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[1:59] <SuperMiguel> what can i use to get a life feedback from a webcam over the internet?
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[2:01] <pksato> SuperMiguel: motion, ffmpeg, vlc, webcam, and others
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[2:02] <SuperMiguel> pksato: ffmpeg won't access my webcam (not sure where to make it look for it) and motion won't update the image on the client =(
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[2:09] <flangefrog> guess what I got for my birthday?
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[2:10] <Gr33n3gg> flangefrog: socks?
[2:10] <Gr33n3gg> I wish I got socks, I keep running out
[2:10] <SpeedEvil> Austria.
[2:10] <flangefrog> a raspberry pie
[2:10] <flangefrog> like this: http://glutenfree4u.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/tarts-mini-jam.jpg
[2:10] <pksato> A Raspberry Pie with candles?
[2:11] <Gr33n3gg> SpeedEvil: austria? who gives austria as a present?
[2:11] <flangefrog> lol
[2:11] <SpeedEvil> a generous person.
[2:11] <flangefrog> it was my little sister :D
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[2:16] <UnaClocker> Talking Pi webserver, terrorize the webmaster??? http://rp.likes-pie.com/
[2:18] <Jarickc> Hello all. I have a quick question (hopefully). I have a Logitech k400r that I am having a bit of difficulty with. When I was running raspbmc it worked fine but with wheezy it won't do anything on the first boot so I never get the oppertunity to even get to the command line. Are there any distributions that would work. I want something that I can load netflix and hulu in.
[2:19] <clear`> flangefrog: that looks good
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[2:21] <netw1z> where is the live video for ur rpi
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[2:26] <Jarickc> ok well if anyone has a suggestion i will hang out a little longer
[2:27] <SuperMiguel> pksato: have you used motion before?
[2:27] <pksato> yes, but not on rpi.
[2:27] <pksato> and, not with webcam,
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[2:32] <DocMerlin> Hello I'm on a mac and having trouble making and loading the SD-card
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[2:32] <vorsaykal> DocMerlin: It might do you some good if you be a little bit more specific.
[2:33] <DocMerlin> when I run sudo dd if=2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/disk1 bs=4m
[2:33] <DocMerlin> it says dd: /dev/disk1: Permission denied
[2:33] <DocMerlin> even though I am a sudoer
[2:33] <DocMerlin> oh wait its working this time
[2:34] <DocMerlin> wierd
[2:34] <DocMerlin> thanks anyway
[2:34] <pksato> sd card is locked?
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[2:34] <DocMerlin> didn't seem to be
[2:34] <axion> yoursdcard is marked read only
[2:34] <axion> flip the switch and retry
[2:34] <vorsaykal> I typed "dd permission" in google and it suggested "dd permission denied mac", first result being RPi related.
[2:35] <DocMerlin> heh, I tried something similar and got nothing
[2:35] <DocMerlin> anyway its working now
[2:36] <vorsaykal> Gotta love when things just randomly work _after_ you start asking it.
[2:36] <vorsaykal> Or when you call someone over to your computer about an issue, only to have it work when your buddy arrives.
[2:36] <DocMerlin> yep
[2:36] <DocMerlin> Heisenbugs
[2:37] <vorsaykal> Woah. I didn't know they had an actual term for that.
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[2:41] <kkuno> hi
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[2:41] <kkuno> does anyone tested mythbackend in the rpi?
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[2:58] <confuzled> hey i just noticed when i pl;ug power on the pi, my tv automatically switches to that source, but it does not do the same for my ps3
[2:58] <confuzled> am i doing somethign wrong
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[3:01] <KeatonT> hmm this is interesting.
[3:01] <KeatonT> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=23725&p=220873
[3:01] <KeatonT> Anyone here in the IRC chat actually post on this topic?
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[3:02] <Datalink> confuzled, the PS3 may not support CEC...
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[3:03] <clear`> KeatonT: someone a few days ago did
[3:03] <clear`> forgot who it was
[3:03] <KeatonT> I was just curious. I've actually been working on something very similar for the beagle bone.
[3:04] <KeatonT> It's nearly done and wouldn't take much to port to the Pi.
[3:06] <confuzled> ok, Datalink that is wat determines the autoswitchign i guess
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[3:09] <Datalink> confuzled, it is, CEC signal at boot is "accessory online" by the Pi
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[3:13] <confuzled> arent there devices that can be plugged in as a hub to enable cec for all your devices
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[3:15] <clear`> what is cec?
[3:15] <TAFB_ssd> allows stuff to control your tv/receiver, etc.
[3:16] <clear`> oh
[3:16] <TAFB_ssd> i hate it, cause my Pi tells my 50" plasma TV to turn on all the time when I'm not paying attention. talk about burn in :(
[3:16] <clear`> i was going to just suggest forcing hdmi output
[3:16] <clear`> but guess that wouldnt work
[3:16] <clear`> you dont have burn in protection on the tv?
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[3:16] <TAFB_ssd> clear`: it's a plasma, goes to a dim mode to prevent burn in. and while it may not be burnt in permenantly, it sure is noticable for the next day or so.
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[3:17] <clear`> my plasma, if the tv isnt active, it has a blox that moves across the screen
[3:17] <TAFB_ssd> watch around 08 seconds when it powers up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNDeQMNCOiw
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[3:18] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh, my LG doesn't, even on a still screen it just sits there and goes to a semo tim mode.
[3:18] <TAFB_ssd> semi dim
[3:18] <TAFB_ssd> lol
[3:19] <clear`> oh
[3:19] <clear`> i have a samsung
[3:19] <clear`> love it
[3:20] <TAFB_ssd> nice
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[3:22] <clear`> we bought a cheap dynex on black friday
[3:22] <Torikun> yo
[3:22] <clear`> thats what i run the pi on, lcd, doesnt put off any heat compared to the plasma
[3:22] <TAFB_ssd> sweet
[3:22] <clear`> the plasma can get so hot it will cook an egg =X
[3:22] <TAFB_ssd> hey Torikun! I got my kernal upgraded! woot!
[3:22] <Torikun> sweet
[3:22] <Torikun> any new stuff
[3:23] <TAFB_ssd> not sure, just got it workin like 2 mins ago, converting my boot drive to ext4 now :)
[3:23] <Torikun> TAFB_ssd: http://rusher81572.com/?q=node/4
[3:23] <Torikun> nice
[3:23] * TAFB_ssd clicks link
[3:24] <Torikun> I want to test having the files in RAMFS next lol
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[3:24] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: wow, interesting results! I think it's because the crappy ethernet/usb chip on the Pi uses CPU to transmit over network, that's why nas performance is so crappy (and even usb isn't much better).
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[3:25] <TAFB_ssd> why run apache though?? supposed to be the slowest of them all? lol
[3:25] <Torikun> oh man
[3:25] <Torikun> lol
[3:25] <Torikun> apache is most popular
[3:25] <Torikun> refrshing skills
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[3:25] <TAFB_ssd> On the Pi? i dun think so
[3:25] <TAFB_ssd> lol
[3:25] <Torikun> doing ram test now
[3:25] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: can you do any PHP caching with drupal? would probably increase the speed 1000x
[3:25] <Torikun> not sure
[3:25] <Torikun> next test after ram lol
[3:26] <TAFB_ssd> look into it, so the Pi doesn't have to generate every php page on every view. It'll pre-render the PHP into HTML and just update it every few mins, etc. works amazing, performance is mind blowing
[3:26] <Torikun> sweet
[3:26] <TAFB_ssd> that's how I run my status page. normally 3.8 seconds to load, with cache, loads in .0018 seconds :)
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[3:26] <Torikun> nice
[3:27] <Torikun> Anyone watch the new Doctor who xmas special?
[3:27] <TAFB_ssd> i'll keep an eye on your page, for the ramdrive results, I'll brb in a few, gotta fondle ext4
[3:27] <Torikun> ok
[3:28] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: this one? http://kat.ph/doctor-who-the-snowmen-christmas-special-2012-mp4-aac-oan-t6930448.html
[3:28] <Torikun> yup lol
[3:28] <Torikun> probably same one I downloaded lol
[3:28] <Torikun> great episode
[3:28] <TAFB_ssd> rofl :)
[3:28] <TAFB_ssd> I'll download it now, have not seen
[3:29] <Torikun> dam tmpfs is root only
[3:29] <Torikun> cant share it
[3:29] <Torikun> i mean ramfs
[3:29] <TAFB_ssd> just su
[3:29] <TAFB_ssd> make a folder
[3:29] <TAFB_ssd> chmod +777?
[3:29] <Torikun> nope
[3:29] <Torikun> i did -R and nothing
[3:29] <mdszy> TAFB_ssd, chmod 777 is never a good idea
[3:29] <Torikun> ramfs has weird permissions
[3:29] <TAFB_ssd> ahh
[3:30] <TAFB_ssd> mdszy: I chmod -R +777 / ;)
[3:30] <TAFB_ssd> permissions annoy me
[3:30] <mdszy> TAFB_ssd, you're asking for horrible things to happen
[3:30] <Torikun> trying tmpfs now
[3:30] <mdszy> plus it's not +777, it's just 777
[3:30] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: download at 5MB/sec, be done in 2 mins :)
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[3:30] <mdszy> TAFB_ssd, sudo chmod -R 000 /
[3:30] <Torikun> that wont work on ramfs
[3:30] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: wacky
[3:31] <Torikun> tmpfs uses swap but I have no swap so I should get same result
[3:31] <Torikun> it should just use RAM then I guess
[3:31] <TAFB_ssd> ahhhh makes sense
[3:31] <TAFB_ssd> don't run er outa ram!
[3:31] <Torikun> lol
[3:31] <TAFB_ssd> run: sync && sudo /sbin/sysctl vm.drop_caches=3
[3:31] <Torikun> I am almost there also lol
[3:31] <TAFB_ssd> clear out your memories
[3:32] <Torikun> what does drop_caches do
[3:32] <Torikun> new one for me
[3:32] <TAFB_ssd> clears all buffers/cache, etc. leaves you with maximum "free" ram
[3:32] <TAFB_ssd> things will eventually fill the buffer/cache back up so "free" ram = 0
[3:33] <Torikun> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Dec 30 18:32 httpd -> /tmp/www/
[3:33] <Torikun> access denied though
[3:33] <TAFB_ssd> Doctor Who done downloadin, checking quality....
[3:34] <TAFB_ssd> PAL, 25 FPS, 720x400 average bitrate 6000kbps, acceptable.
[3:34] <Torikun> nice
[3:35] <Torikun> anyone on arch
[3:35] * TAFB_ssd raises hand
[3:35] <TAFB_ssd> wow, audio quality is great :)
[3:35] <Torikun> hmm access denied
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[3:36] <Torikun> tmpfs has a limitation also
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[3:37] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: don't let it win, you must take control.
[3:37] <Torikun> TAFB_ssd: lol
[3:38] <Torikun> so can not do ram test
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[3:38] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: that sux. wouldn't have helped, php eat Pi CPU, storage media makes little difference.
[3:39] <Torikun> i hear wordpress was slow as hell
[3:39] <TAFB_ssd> insanely slow
[3:39] <TAFB_ssd> I'm working on my php cache technology to work with wordpress
[3:39] <TAFB_ssd> but having a problem with hard links, dumb wordpress.
[3:40] <Torikun> oh
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[3:42] <Torikun> this was way better than the past two christmas episodes TAFB_ssd
[3:42] <TAFB_ssd> just watched the intro, looks awesome so far!!!
[3:42] <Torikun> new intro!
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[3:51] <Torikun> TAFB_ssd: I need to free up more memory, mysql wont start, I have 159 mb free though
[3:51] <clear`> lol i read that as more money
[3:51] <Torikun> lol
[3:52] <Torikun> he is also my accountant
[3:52] <Torikun> ll
[3:52] <clear`> im going through my business transaction for the year =X
[3:52] <Torikun> ol
[3:53] <Torikun> how to change Initializing buffer pool, size = 128.0M
[3:54] <Torikun> opk my.conf
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[3:58] <torgo> Anyone know what package netsurf-fb is in in the arch aur?
[4:01] <Torikun> kat williams arrested in LA...dang. how many times this year lol
[4:01] <atouk> kat who?
[4:01] <Torikun> Comedian Kat Williams
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[4:04] <DocMerlin> the pi seems to think my tv is much larger than it is, how do I adjust the size?
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[4:08] <torgo> DocMerlin: /boot/config.txt
[4:08] <torgo> ?
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[4:12] <TAFB_ssd> it boots!!! http://tafb.yi.org
[4:12] <TAFB_ssd> new kernel, ext4, woot.
[4:12] <Torikun> what is that now
[4:12] <Torikun> wow
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[4:13] <Torikun> nice status page
[4:13] <TAFB_ssd> just gotta figure out how to tweak my fstab and she's finished.
[4:13] <TAFB_ssd> thanks :)
[4:13] <Torikun> what is it running on
[4:13] <Torikun> it is very cool
[4:13] <TAFB_ssd> that little black box in the picture
[4:13] <TAFB_ssd> Seagate GoFlex Home
[4:13] <TAFB_ssd> 1.2ghz cpu, 128mb ram
[4:13] <DocMerlin> thanks
[4:13] <TAFB_ssd> gigabit ethernet, real SATA2, dedicated usb2 :)
[4:13] <DocMerlin> this christmas has been awesome
[4:13] <Torikun> what is a goflex
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[4:14] <DocMerlin> wife got me a pistol and little sister got me a raspberry pi
[4:14] <Torikun> you will use the pistol on the PI soon
[4:14] <TAFB_ssd> DocMerlin: where do I get family like yours?!?
[4:14] <DocMerlin> frustrated, Tori?
[4:14] <Torikun> lol
[4:15] <Torikun> a little
[4:15] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: it's a little docking station thing I got free with my hard drives, a SATA to NAS converter.
[4:15] <Torikun> oh ok
[4:15] <Torikun> I get it now
[4:15] <TAFB_ssd> lol
[4:15] <TAFB_ssd> DocMerlin: 9mm?
[4:15] <DocMerlin> also is a class 10 SD fast enough?
[4:15] <Torikun> loads hella fast
[4:15] <DocMerlin> an XDS (.45 ACP)
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[4:16] <TAFB_ssd> DocMerlin: nice, good answer for bumps in the night :)
[4:16] <DocMerlin> :-)
[4:16] <DocMerlin> now to post to facebook from the pi... just need to find the darned ethernet cord
[4:17] <TAFB_ssd> DocMerlin: Para Ord Tac Four LDA, 10 rounds .45 :) http://ecuflashking.com/guns/pictures/tacfour/large/P1010030.JPG
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[4:17] <DocMerlin> Good looking gun :-)
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[4:17] <DocMerlin> TAFB_ssd: Mine is /much/ smaller.
[4:17] <TAFB_ssd> thx :)
[4:17] <TAFB_ssd> DocMerlin: That's the absolutely smallest gun legal in Canada. 4.25" barrel.
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[4:18] <DocMerlin> they put a lower limit on size? Weird, longer barrels hit harder.
[4:18] <DocMerlin> (3.3" barrel on mine)
[4:18] <TAFB_ssd> they are worried about conclealing it too easy, no carry laws here (concealed or open).
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[4:21] <herdingcat> hi, what's the VC library in /opt/vc?
[4:22] <herdingcat> What is it?
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[4:22] <Gorroth> i am totally eating raspberries while my computer images an SD card for my raspberry pi
[4:22] <TAFB_ssd> nice
[4:22] <Gorroth> thanks :)
[4:22] <Gorroth> good time of year for raspberries too; they're in season
[4:23] <vorsaykal> I had raspberry crepes today. =)
[4:23] <sheldor> hey my emulationstation doesnt start anymore, i only see the white dot on a black screen
[4:23] <sheldor> is there any way i can debug this?
[4:23] <herdingcat> hi, what's the VC library in /opt/vc?
[4:23] <sheldor> it occurred after i did a firmware update iirc
[4:23] <sheldor> the weird thing is it doesnt even appear in top
[4:24] <sheldor> also omxplayer doesnt play anything anymore
[4:24] <sheldor> it just terminates right to the console
[4:25] <sheldor> i get nothing for debugging
[4:26] <sheldor> maybe some SDL stuff is broken
[4:27] <sheldor> i will try ./emulationstation > log
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[4:27] <pksato> a
[4:28] <SuperMiguel> so how do i get wireless on arch? I'm trying to connect to a wpa network, and i setup the wpa_supplicant file and get this: http://pastie.org/5600402
[4:28] <SuperMiguel> '
[4:29] <DocMerlin> wait, raspberry pi as wireless??
[4:29] <SuperMiguel> ya i connect a usb wireless card
[4:29] <SuperMiguel> trying to connect to wireless network
[4:29] <pksato> DocMerlin: you have it? http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/3760/tvtimeoutput012336am.png
[4:29] <sheldor> oh maybe some installer massed with the memory split
[4:29] <sheldor> !
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[4:30] <sheldor> now omxplayer and emustation cannot start anymor
[4:30] <herdingcat> hi, what's the VC library in /opt/vc?
[4:30] <sheldor> let me try that
[4:30] <DocMerlin> ah, a usb card
[4:30] <sheldor> messed*
[4:30] <sheldor> where exactly is the memory split defined?
[4:31] <sheldor> /boot/config.txt?
[4:31] <sheldor> also what gpu_mem value would you recommend for omxplayer/emulationstation?
[4:31] <ParkerR_> Hmm. On the plus side I know have a little external DVD drive. ON the downside I need a powered hub to use it with the Pi.
[4:31] <ParkerR_> *now
[4:32] <ParkerR_> And it only powers via USB
[4:32] <sheldor> ah it only uses 16 megs right now!
[4:32] <sheldor> that must be it
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[4:33] <sheldor> if anybody is reading what i say what gpu_mem value would you recommend for xbmc?
[4:34] <ParkerR_> sheldor, 128 works nice
[4:34] <sheldor> oh!
[4:34] <sheldor> okay
[4:34] <sheldor> i only had 16
[4:34] <ParkerR_> sheldor, Wait do you have the 512mb Pi?
[4:34] <sheldor> yep
[4:34] <sheldor> ofc
[4:34] <herdingcat> can anyone tell me what happened?
[4:34] <herdingcat> http://fpaste.org/oLAh/
[4:34] <ParkerR_> Ok then yeah 128 is good
[4:35] <sheldor> :)
[4:35] <herdingcat> I have pointed out the path but seems still unavailable.
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[4:40] <DocMerlin> you know, it would be fun to turn the Pi into a torrent machine/video player
[4:40] <mdszy> dangit, I have no idea what to do with my Pi XD
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[4:50] <sigjuice> Just got my rev B running. I am curious about what java means in /proc/cpuinfo. Features : swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp java tls
[4:51] <sigjuice> Any suggestions?
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[4:58] <Datalink> ARM has some base emulation for Java for use by embedded applications, Linux currently does not get a proper JavaVM which takes advantage of the CPU featureset, because the featureset is reguarded as obsolite
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[5:02] <pksato> i
[5:04] <sigjuice> Thanks! /proc/cpuinfo is the first thing I check when I look at Linux on a new machine. I know hardly anything about java, but it made me curious.
[5:07] <Datalink> it was popular back when ARM was mostly powering early Nokia
[5:07] <Datalink> fell into disfavor as more MHz where thrown at the VM instead
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[5:08] <Datalink> most Intel CPUs still have MS BASIC interfaces partially implemented for the same reason
[5:09] <Datalink> other stuff still uses it because it's there, so taking it out would cause people who rely on those legacy functions to complain, but the majority of it is not used
[5:09] <Xark> "Error, no BASIC in ROM". :)
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[5:09] <Datalink> yeah, but some of the functions that where used by other stuff still exist :P
[5:10] <Datalink> I need to toss DOS 6.22 on this system some time just to see how it handles a CPU who's got an L1 cache bigger than it was written for
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[5:10] <Datalink> er bigger than the RAM footprint
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[5:11] <Xark> Hehe. Probably works fine (even on ancient self-modifying code). :)
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[5:16] <sheldor> can the raspberry have several hostnames?
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[5:18] <DocMerlin> well, I'm currently using openbox, anyone use use any other window managers?
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[5:18] <nickgaw> Hi, Are there methods for extracting the initrd from a kernel.img file like the one in the raspbian installer?
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[5:20] <nickgaw> as I can't find any directions on getting the raspbian installation initrd unpacked or downloaded or how the installer was even built.
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[5:20] <Torikun> TAFB_ssd: WATCH IT?
[5:22] <TAFB_ssd> the dr. who?
[5:22] <TAFB_ssd> yep, absolutely awesome :)
[5:22] <Torikun> ssweeet
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[5:23] <TAFB_ssd> new kernel working sweet, drive fully EXT4, fstab tweaked for maximum performance. workin gooooood http://tafb.yi.org
[5:23] <TAFB_ssd> :)
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[5:23] <Torikun> nice
[5:24] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: the fstab line is listed on the config page now (pulled live from the actual fstab), if you wanna inprove i/o on SDCARD I think it would help a ton. you should give er a go
[5:25] <Torikun> ty
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[5:34] <sarcher> Hi
[5:34] <sarcher> has anyone else had problems with USB Ports on the pi? Specifically my bluetooth adapter only works with hi speed turned off, but then usb keyboards don't work.
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[5:35] <Torikun> sarcher: I have issues when the unit not getting enough power
[5:35] <Torikun> and sometimes I gotta unopkug the keyboard and plug it in again
[5:35] <Torikun> brand new
[5:35] <Torikun> and used one
[5:35] <TAFB_ssd> sarcher: make sure you're running the newest firmware from the hexxeh update.
[5:36] <sarcher> TAFB_ssd: how do you get / update the firmware?
[5:36] <sarcher> I just got my Pi a few days ago.
[5:36] <Datalink|mobile> Is there a firmware update?
[5:36] <TAFB_ssd> sarcher: https://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update/
[5:37] <TAFB_ssd> follow the directions closely, there is probably one additional package it'll ask you to install.
[5:38] <TAFB_ssd> if you're not sure what firmware you're running, run "sudo vcgencmd version" and paste the results.
[5:38] <sarcher> cool i'll try that now
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[5:39] <Datalink|mobile> Hexxeh's updater is solid and self-updates
[5:40] <TAFB_ssd> self-updates itself, not your firmware, right? :)
[5:40] <rikkib> both
[5:40] <Datalink|mobile> Uh, yeah but it upfates firmware too
[5:41] <TAFB_ssd> each time you run it, it does that? sweet.
[5:41] <sarcher> TAFB_ssd: version 359904 (release)
[5:41] <TAFB_ssd> sarcher: what's the date
[5:41] <sarcher> TAFB_ssd: Dec 28 2012 11:22:54
[5:41] <TAFB_ssd> wow, must be new update!
[5:41] <TAFB_ssd> never knew about that :) nice.
[5:41] <Datalink|mobile> Yep, run twice if your Raspbian is still using the blobswap firmwares instead of config firmware
[5:42] <TAFB_ssd> blobswap?
[5:42] <sarcher> so i guess the firmware update doesn't solve the problem :)
[5:42] <TAFB_ssd> sarcher: not in your case, do you have a voltmeter?
[5:42] <sarcher> i'm pretty sure it's not a power issue. I'm running it via an iPad charger
[5:42] <sarcher> I do have a voltmeter
[5:43] <TAFB_ssd> it's usually do to crappy microUSB cable. can you check TP1-TP2 voltage DURING booting, take note of the lowest number, have your bluetooth, everything plugged in: http://elinux.org/images/d/d1/RPI_Test_Points.JPG
[5:43] <Datalink|mobile> Still good practice, what's the erroronious behavior?
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[5:43] <TAFB_ssd> they are having bluetooth USB issues, only worked when bumped to slow speed then USB keyboard doesn't work
[5:44] <sarcher> Yes, the bluetooth chip won't go "up" it just says "down" when i do an hciconfig
[5:45] <Datalink|mobile> .... hm, mine needed coaxing but mostly because I know little about the bluetooth stack
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[5:48] <Datalink|mobile> Ugh, update appears to be hanging...
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[5:56] <Datalink|mobile> This isn't good...
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[5:58] <brontos> Hello all, I am taking my brand new rpi to a new years party tomorrow night. What is one of the coolest things I can put on here to really show off how cool it is?
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[5:59] <TAFB_ssd> brougham: xbmc and stream a ming blowing 1080p over hdmi to their tv
[6:00] <Datalink|mobile> brontos: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=8157
[6:01] <Datalink|mobile> Xbmc would likely go over better to non-geeks
[6:01] <Torikun> openelec
[6:01] <clear`> pandora would be pretty nice to have :P
[6:02] <Datalink|mobile> If you have several spare SD cards, just flash a few of these on them :P
[6:02] <brontos> Datalink|mobile, probably so, but I think the terminal youtube would be way cool too! Going to try it now.
[6:03] <Datalink|mobile> Hehe, I use it for YT on my TV
[6:03] <Datalink|mobile> There's a loading delay, I run cmatrix on the console and ssh in for yt
[6:05] <brontos> nice! There are a couple people that will get excited by this. A few others I saw today already said they were more excited when they thought I was talking about food. I took care of that problem though ;)
[6:05] <Datalink|mobile> Haha
[6:05] <Datalink|mobile> Bring pie too
[6:05] <Datalink|mobile> Pie is good
[6:06] <brontos> might have too!
[6:06] <Datalink|mobile> Haha
[6:08] <Datalink|mobile> Oh other fun, look up the resistor for 3v3 leds and a light display, shows off the GPIO if done right
[6:08] <UnaClocker> clear`: You can play Pandora on the Pi with "pianobar"
[6:09] <Datalink|mobile> I need that
[6:10] <clear`> UnaClocker: yea i saw that on the forums
[6:10] <clear`> is it good?
[6:11] <UnaClocker> Yeah, I had a Pi under the tree with Christmas tunes for a week straight.. ;)
[6:11] <clear`> cool
[6:12] <qrwteyrutiyoup> lol :)
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[6:13] <Torikun> Anyone make a good use of their pi?
[6:14] <netw1z> at first i thought you said you had a new pie under the tree for a straight week
[6:14] <Torikun> DNS/Torrent/Web/Email server here
[6:14] <netw1z> I'm coding away on a dumb rPI project
[6:14] <Torikun> ah
[6:14] <Datalink|mobile> Printserv and mad science box
[6:14] <qrwteyrutiyoup> decoration here. hadn't time to do much with mine :(
[6:14] <Datalink|mobile> Also youtube
[6:14] <netw1z> I'm making the ultimate wearable watch!
[6:15] <netw1z> D A Y W A L K E R
[6:15] <netw1z> gaw im stupid
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[6:17] <DocMerlin> is there a compressing file system for raspberry pi?
[6:17] <DocMerlin> seems it would be a perfect candidate for it
[6:17] <brontos> Datalink|mobile, you ever see soemthing about 'latin-1' codec encode character u'\u2026' in position 18 when trying to run yt?
[6:17] <qrwteyrutiyoup> compressing file system?
[6:17] <DocMerlin> you know, like stacker back in the 90's
[6:17] <DocMerlin> a file system that compresses the blocks of data
[6:17] <qrwteyrutiyoup> ah okay
[6:18] <Datalink|mobile> Uh, yeah, I usually restart yt at that point
[6:18] <Torikun> I hate how updating packages on arch breaks the system
[6:18] <brontos> Can't get it to start in the first place
[6:18] <brontos> I accidentally screwed up my locale. I need to put it back to default
[6:18] <brontos> that might be it
[6:19] <Datalink|mobile> Hm, rpi-update is locking up :/
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[6:19] <qrwteyrutiyoup> hm haven't updated mine in weeks. anything interesting recently?
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[6:19] <atouk> are you overclocking, and have you done rpi-update?
[6:20] <Datalink|mobile> No, I run stock speed only
[6:21] <atouk> wifi or wired
[6:21] <Datalink|mobile> Wired
[6:22] <chaz68> Anybody here using Owncloud on SqueezePlug http://www.squeezeplug.de/?
[6:22] <chaz68> got this 2mb file upload limit...
[6:22] <Torikun> I wanted to test owncloud
[6:22] <Torikun> how does it run on PI
[6:23] <atouk> try a rpi-update and then do the apt-gets. i believe that they changed some i/o timings in early versions that caused issues
[6:23] <Datalink|mobile> Ok
[6:23] <chaz68> runs pretty decent - certainly not as fast as my real server...
[6:23] <Torikun> what distro
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[6:23] <chaz68> But can't complain. Just hooked up a bunch of crap I had laying around and it runs...
[6:24] <atouk> sorry. i always assume raspbian
[6:24] <brontos> chaz68, good luck with that
[6:24] <Torikun> http://roundcube.net/
[6:24] <chaz68> Already have the server running...
[6:24] <brontos> yeah I had the server running. The 2gig file issue is the problem
[6:24] <chaz68> Pretty clean out of the box experience... I presume it's an owncloud thing will start digging...
[6:25] <brontos> they need some different protocol for it
[6:25] <chaz68> What's your 2 gig file issue?
[6:25] <netw1z> whats a owncloud
[6:25] <netw1z> a cloud of ur own?
[6:25] <brontos> chaze oh I just reread, your issue, is it 2 gig or 2 mb?
[6:25] <chaz68> I have a 2mb issue - http://www.owncloud.org/
[6:26] <chaz68> I presume this is a config in php or something... Will report the fix if I find it...
[6:26] <brontos> oh yeah, I think there are docs for that
[6:27] <brontos> after I had it configured, I had issues with syncing files greater than 2 gigs
[6:27] <chaz68> http://owncloud.org/support/big-files/ - I think I found the problem...
[6:27] <chaz68> Off to do some editing of config files...
[6:27] <chaz68> Wish me luck.
[6:29] <chaz68> Awww cool.... I can run CrushFTP on my Rpi.... http://www.crushftp.com/
[6:29] <chaz68> These squeezeplug dudes got Java figured out on the Rpi it looks like...
[6:30] <Torikun> I heard there is a chrome for the rpi but sucks
[6:30] <Datalink|mobile> Pi java is doable normally
[6:30] <chaz68> crashplan is working, too... (java dependent).... http://www.crashplan.com/
[6:30] <Datalink|mobile> ChromeOS or browser?
[6:30] <Torikun> browser
[6:31] <Datalink|mobile> Aww, os woulda been cool
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[6:31] <Torikun> chrome sucks on a macbook with 4GB of memory
[6:31] <Torikun> and dual core i5
[6:31] <Torikun> lol
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[6:34] <Zarek_> Torikun: >_> i put up with Chrome on a Celeron single-core machine with 2GB RAM over 6 years old
[6:34] <Torikun> lol
[6:34] <Torikun> I hate how flash consumes 1GB of memor
[6:35] <Torikun> and how much memory chrome uses for just browsing
[6:36] <Zarek_> flash uses more than half my available ram just displaying ADS
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[6:37] <Torikun> what is a good lightweight php webmail client
[6:38] <Datalink|mobile> Squirrelmail
[6:38] <Torikun> cant get it on arch anymore
[6:38] <Zarek_> was going to suggest roundcube but then read 'lightweight'
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[6:39] <Torikun> that is based on drupal
[6:40] <Datalink|mobile> Squirrelmail
[6:40] <Torikun> not for arch
[6:40] <Torikun> they do not officually support it and do not have it repo
[6:41] <clear`> http://blog.templatemonster.com/2011/07/05/ajax-php-webmail-clients/
[6:41] <clear`> any of those?
[6:41] <Torikun> trying neomail now
[6:41] <Torikun> will try next if neomail is bad
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[6:42] <Zarek_> Torikun: squirrelmail should be in the AUR anyway
[6:42] <clear`> dont think many of those will work
[6:42] <Torikun> it would not compile Zarek_
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[6:42] <Torikun> says the arch is not supported
[6:42] <Zarek_> why not
[6:42] <Zarek_> edit pkgbuild
[6:42] <Torikun> I did
[6:42] <Zarek_> why does it say the arch is not supported
[6:43] <Zarek_> the arch is 'any'
[6:43] <Torikun> i know!
[6:43] <Torikun> I will try it again now
[6:43] * Torikun crosses fingers
[6:44] <clear`> i setup an ftp for the pi, but i cant access my external hard drive that is connected
[6:44] <clear`> it doesnt show in mnt or media
[6:44] <Torikun> looks like it is doing better Zarek_
[6:44] <Torikun> glad I listend to you lol
[6:44] <Zarek_> you might have to mount it yourself
[6:45] <Zarek_> Torikun: cool :3
[6:45] <clear`> Zarek_: its mounted, its visible in xbmc
[6:45] <Zarek_> clear`: check `mount` and see where it's mounted
[6:45] <Zarek_> because it *might* be under /run/media/<username>
[6:45] <Zarek_> depends on the distro
[6:46] <Zarek_> that's where stuff is mounted on arch/systemd
[6:46] <clear`> raspbian
[6:46] <clear`> let me boot it back up
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[6:47] <clear`> /dev/sda1 on /media/external type ntfs (ro,relatime,uid=0,gid=0,fmask=0177,dmask=077,nls=utf8,errors=continue,mft_zone_multiplier=1)
[6:47] <Zarek_> hmmmmm
[6:48] <Zarek_> so /media/external doesn't show up in ftp?
[6:48] <clear`> 550 /media/external: No such file or directory
[6:48] <Zarek_> i'd check your ftp server config
[6:48] <Neqoxec> what's the best route to go for getting nes/snes emu? fceultra? retroarch?
[6:48] <Zarek_> can't say i've ever configured an ftp server, though, so i'm probably not much help
[6:49] <clear`> its weird that it wont show it through ssh, but i can play video's from xbmc
[6:49] <Zarek_> wait, it won't show through ssh, either? O_O
[6:50] <clear`> i mean ftp
[6:50] <clear`> sorry
[6:50] <clear`> well it shows it but wont read it
[6:50] <clear`> maybe its read only
[6:50] <clear`> but read only would still show
[6:51] <Zarek_> well. it could be that the ftp server user doesn't have permissions to access it at all
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[6:51] <Zarek_> can you run `ls -la /media`
[6:52] <Zarek_> and post results
[6:52] <Datalink|mobile> Nini
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[6:53] <clear`> total 12
[6:53] <clear`> drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Dec 30 08:17 .
[6:53] <clear`> drwxr-xr-x 22 root root 4096 Aug 16 00:16 ..
[6:53] <clear`> dr-x------ 1 root root 4096 Dec 31 02:56 external
[6:53] <Zarek_> okay
[6:53] <clear`> external should be the drive
[6:53] <Zarek_> there's the problem
[6:53] <clear`> and it doesnt have all the permissions
[6:53] <clear`> blah
[6:53] <Zarek_> only root has access to /media/external
[6:53] <brontos> Datalink|mobile, I got yt to load but when I try to play something it just says playing .... then the dialog disappears and nothing happens
[6:53] <brontos> any thoughs?
[6:54] <Zarek_> `sudo chmod 755 /media/external`
[6:54] <Zarek_> and try to access over ftp again
[6:54] <chaz68> I presume this is the right file to edit to increase from the 2MB file limit in owncloud: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[6:56] <clear`> chmod: changing permissions of `/media/external': Read-only file system
[6:56] <clear`> yea i tried the chmod
[6:56] <clear`> but ^
[6:56] <clear`> http://www.library.yale.edu/wsg/docs/permissions/ <- i was reading that
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[6:59] <clear`> i have to mount the drive as rw and not ro
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[7:08] <cheezymuffins> Does anyone have an asus usb-n10
[7:08] <chaz68> 4.7GB file size now in Owncloud.... For those DVD images... :-0)
[7:09] <Torikun> wow
[7:09] <Torikun> chaz68: I am testing out the owncloud demo on their site
[7:09] <Torikun> built in music player it looks like
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[7:10] <Gorroth> guys, i got https://github.com/grimwm/py-dictobj added as an official package on the Python Package Index! http://pypi.python.org/pypi/dictobj
[7:10] <chaz68> Change these parameters in /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini: upload_max_filesize = X.XG
[7:10] <chaz68> post_max_size = X.XG
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[7:10] <Gorroth> so if you wanna use it on your rpi, just do "pip install dictobj" and "import dictobj"
[7:11] <chaz68> I would like someone to hook up Ajaxplorer... I like it better than owncloud. Anybody have an Rpi script for install to Debian?
[7:12] <Gorroth> then you can use dictionaries "as objects" meaning d=DictionaryObject({'a':3, 'b':{'a':1, 'b':True}}) would then let you do d['b']['b'], as usual, or you could do d.b.b
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[7:12] <Gorroth> it's really helpful for me when getting data out of DBs or especially JSON files!
[7:12] <Gorroth> since json.loads returns a dictionary
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[7:13] <Torikun> yaourt is the best tool on Arch =)
[7:13] <Gorroth> d=dictobj.DictionaryObject(json.loads(someJsonFile)) # BAM! instantly you have an object that you can traverse the hierarchy just as though you'd written a whole object specially for it
[7:13] <deflux> used packer myself
[7:13] <cheezymuffins> Torikun go say that in #archlinux
[7:13] <Torikun> lol
[7:14] <Torikun> they hate it?
[7:14] <cheezymuffins> they will stone you
[7:14] <cheezymuffins> yeah it isnt proper
[7:14] <Torikun> oh
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[7:14] <cheezymuffins> and against the arch way
[7:14] <cheezymuffins> therefore i use cower
[7:14] <Torikun> what is that
[7:14] <cheezymuffins> an aur helper
[7:14] <cheezymuffins> just like yaourt
[7:15] <cheezymuffins> not sure if there is support for archlinux arm though
[7:15] <Torikun> oh
[7:15] <cheezymuffins> i think yaourt is bad since it does eveything for you
[7:15] <Torikun> what is wong with that
[7:15] <Torikun> lol
[7:15] <Torikun> just like emerge
[7:15] <cheezymuffins> you should really be reading the PKGBUILDS
[7:16] <cheezymuffins> and making the packages and installing with pacman
[7:16] <cheezymuffins> i useto have yaourt set up to just auto accept yes
[7:16] <clear`> Zarek_: got it :D
[7:16] <Torikun> lol
[7:16] <Zarek_> clear`: :D awesome
[7:17] <clear`> i had to un mount the drive and mount it with ntfs-3g
[7:17] <Torikun> I an copying from USB to NAS and it taking forever!
[7:17] <Torikun> PI slow!
[7:17] <clear`> apt-get install ntfs-3g
[7:17] <clear`> mount ???t ntfs-3g /dev/hda1 /media/windows <- changed the drives ofc
[7:17] <cheezymuffins> lol obviously using debian
[7:17] <clear`> Torikun: what speeds?
[7:18] <Torikun> dunno
[7:18] <Torikun> rsync is doing it
[7:18] <clear`> it doesnt tell you?
[7:18] <clear`> oh
[7:18] <Torikun> no
[7:18] <Torikun> 166GB taking most of the day
[7:18] <clear`> i bet
[7:18] <clear`> thats huge
[7:18] <Torikun> my PI is my Apple TimeMachine backup lol
[7:18] <Torikun> it should only take a few hours
[7:19] <Torikun> 6~9 hours to back it up
[7:19] <Torikun> via ethernet
[7:19] <cheezymuffins> oh man just go plug the hard drive into your computer to make the original backup
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[7:19] <Torikun> lol I want wireless backup
[7:19] <Torikun> its a great feature
[7:19] <Torikun> but slow
[7:19] <clear`> lol
[7:20] <Torikun> That is what makes a mac shine
[7:20] <cheezymuffins> yeah i know but once you have the original all you have to do is re mount it
[7:20] <cheezymuffins> on your pi
[7:20] <cheezymuffins> and then set your mac to use it as a wireless backup
[7:20] <cheezymuffins> it will be much faster the first time
[7:20] <cheezymuffins> and all it would have to do is update
[7:21] <Torikun> yup
[7:21] <Torikun> however.
[7:21] <Torikun> restoring it is the hard part
[7:21] <Torikun> it will be an overnight job lol
[7:21] <Torikun> I am trying to rsync it over to my nas to have a backup of my timemachine data
[7:21] <Torikun> just in case
[7:22] <Torikun> how long it takes to compile owncloud?
[7:23] <chaz68> don't have to compile owncloud... Just get it from repository... At least I don't think it compiles.
[7:23] <clear`> whats a decent remote for the pi
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[7:23] <Torikun> ah your right
[7:23] <Torikun> ty
[7:23] <Torikun> ty!
[7:24] <cheezymuffins> yeah if it is big then it will just take a while to install the package
[7:24] <chaz68> SqueezePlug downloaded it. I'd say it was done in about 3-5 minutes. Nothing really long that I remember.
[7:24] <cheezymuffins> you should never have to compile
[7:24] <Torikun> oh
[7:24] <Torikun> omxplayer you do
[7:24] <Torikun> and xbmc
[7:24] <cheezymuffins> huh you are using debian?
[7:24] <Torikun> arch
[7:25] <cheezymuffins> are you getting it off of aur?
[7:25] <Torikun> yeah
[7:25] <chaz68> Interesting... this owncloud is cool but I can't seem to add users... Hate figuring out permissions on these things...
[7:25] <Torikun> lol
[7:25] <Torikun> almost installed owncloud via repo
[7:25] <cheezymuffins> i dont think you are compiling with xbmc just making and instaling the package
[7:28] <chaz68> Anybody tried AjaxPlorer on your Pi yet?
[7:28] <chaz68> Install instructions here: http://ajaxplorer.info/download/?PHPSESSID=1e8bd23d79b9d8d25b71f8277b2a464f
[7:28] <chaz68> I'm running it on a production server and have been pretty happy with it...
[7:29] <cheezymuffins> chaz which distro are you using
[7:30] <cheezymuffins> and are you asking for help instaling it or what?
[7:31] <Torikun> how do you access owncloud
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[7:31] <chaz68> No not asking for help really. Just interested if anyone here is running it...
[7:31] <chaz68> Wondering about performance or setup issues with the pi I might want to consider...
[7:32] <cheezymuffins> im not running it but i bet it will be slower than usual
[7:33] <Torikun> httpd fails to start when add the owncloud info to apache
[7:33] <cheezymuffins> what do the logs say
[7:33] <chaz68> I access owncloud on my ip or internally as follows: http://192.168.1.XX/owncloud - Of course, configure your firewall if it needs to be accessed externally from the net...
[7:33] <Torikun> oh
[7:34] <Torikun> how do you configure httpd.conf
[7:34] <Torikun> Include /etc/httpd/conf/extra/owncloud.conf
[7:34] <Torikun> apache fails to start with that per the wiki
[7:34] <chaz68> I used Squeezeplug and didn't have a problem... Other than the file size issue you have to fix by editing "php.ini" file.
[7:35] <cheezymuffins> nano /etc/httpd/nano /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
[7:35] <cheezymuffins> er
[7:35] <cheezymuffins> nano /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
[7:35] <Torikun> oh the path is wrong
[7:35] <Torikun> wait
[7:35] <chaz68> Hate screwing around with too many *.conf and *.ini files. More stuff to go wrong...
[7:36] <cheezymuffins> if you are following directions then not much can really go wrong
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[7:36] <cheezymuffins> and torikun i am running an arch server rightn now. Not sure if it is different on the pi
[7:36] <Torikun> what did yo uadd
[7:36] <chaz68> If you got a spare SD card laying around give SqueezePlug a try. http://www.squeezeplug.de/
[7:37] <chaz68> I didn't have to touch a thing. They have a nice little setup window that configures it for you. Dummy proof...
[7:37] <chaz68> Those Germans know their stuff, dude...
[7:37] <cheezymuffins> put Include /etc/httpd/conf/extra/owncloud.conf in the includes
[7:37] <Torikun> restarting httpd now
[7:37] <Torikun> Include /etc/httpd/conf/extra/owncloud.conf
[7:38] <cheezymuffins> yeah it is twards the bottom of the conf file
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[7:39] <Torikun> fails
[7:39] <chaz68> Owncloud works. But can't add users.... Hmmm....
[7:40] <Torikun> Dec 30 22:39:28 rusher systemd[1]: Failed to start Apache Web Server.
[7:41] <cheezymuffins> you did add onf/extra/owncloud.conf in the includes
[7:41] <cheezymuffins> er
[7:41] <Torikun> the package included it there
[7:41] <Torikun> i added it to httpd;con
[7:41] <cheezymuffins> okay
[7:42] <Torikun> how can I run apache in debug mode
[7:42] <cheezymuffins> look in /var/log/httpd/error_log
[7:42] <cheezymuffins> to see what is wrong
[7:44] <Torikun> (2)No such file or directory: httpd: could not open error log file /etc/httpd/logs/owncloud.foo.info-error_log.
[7:44] <Torikun> Unable to open logs
[7:47] <cheezymuffins> look at your appache log then
[7:47] <Torikun> worked ty
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[7:49] <cheezymuffins> anyone else use irssi?
[7:49] <alpha080> me
[7:50] <cheezymuffins> nice i just started using it and i love it
[7:50] <alpha080> so what's the question?
[7:50] <cheezymuffins> plus it is on my server so i can ssh in from anywhere
[7:50] <cheezymuffins> none just curious
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[7:53] <Zarek_> weechat > irssi
[7:53] <Zarek_> weechat is like. a way better version of irssi.
[7:57] <Torikun> http://rusher81572.com/owncloud
[7:57] <Torikun> works!
[7:58] <Torikun> lol how you add users
[7:59] <chaz68> Go to Admin gear at lower left hand corner...
[8:00] <chaz68> says "settings" when you hover mouse over it...
[8:00] <Torikun> ah ty chrome was hiding it
[8:00] <Torikun> and there is app for tablet and computer right
[8:01] <cheezymuffins> zarek orly? ill have to give it a try somethime
[8:01] <chaz68> the app for android blows goats...
[8:02] <Torikun> oh
[8:02] <Torikun> akes forever to load admin
[8:02] <Torikun> very sluggish
[8:03] <chaz68> Mine loads real quick...
[8:03] <Torikun> SD?
[8:03] <chaz68> Maybe like 2-4 seconds or so...
[8:04] <chaz68> Yeah... running Class 10 I think...
[8:04] <chaz68> Maybe you have a real cheezy SD card or something.
[8:04] <Torikun> how to change the data directroy to NAS
[8:04] <Torikun> i do not want the SD card filling up lol
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[8:05] <chaz68> On my setup - there was a script location where you set the mounted USB hard drive as the data directory...
[8:05] <chaz68> I think it's in the config file for owncloud...
[8:05] <Torikun> k
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[8:07] <clear`> how do you rename a directory
[8:07] <clear`> cp?
[8:08] <cheezymuffins> i would use mv
[8:08] <Torikun> mv
[8:08] <alpha080> mv
[8:08] <clear`> oh
[8:08] <Torikun> is there still ren?
[8:08] <clear`> so mv dir dir2
[8:08] <Torikun> or was that dos
[8:08] <clear`> thought dos was cp
[8:08] <clear`> been soo longgggg
[8:09] <axion> its rename in linux and works a bit differently
[8:09] <Torikun> oh
[8:09] <cheezymuffins> oh til
[8:10] <clear`> http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=70471&pid=1094133#pid1094133 <- just tried that
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[8:18] <ParkerR_> clear`, Umm you can do pandora without XBMC
[8:19] <ParkerR_> clear`, https://github.com/PromyLOPh/pianobar
[8:19] <clear`> ParkerR_: i have my pi booting directly to xbmc
[8:19] <clear`> so having it added into xbmc will be nice
[8:19] <chaz68> /var/www/owncloud/config/config.php - This is where you will find your default data directory...
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[8:20] <chaz68> think I need some chown commands in my data directory and owncloud web directory to add users in owncloud?
[8:20] <chaz68> I'm terrible at permissions...
[8:21] <Torikun> how do you get apache to accept ssl
[8:21] <Torikun> https
[8:21] <Torikun> owncloud client requires ssl
[8:21] <Torikun> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/LAMP#SSL
[8:22] <chaz68> As I said. Mine just worked out of the hopper. That's the beauty of scripts for your OS so you're not recreating the wheel.
[8:27] <netw1z> i wish i had that luxury!#@
[8:27] <ParkerR_> And the hazard of runing a script that you have no idea what it does :P
[8:27] <netw1z> coding away!
[8:27] <ParkerR_> *running
[8:27] <chaz68> Pi is a recreational platform... No worries...
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[8:34] <herdingcat> hi, do I need VC library if I don't use it for video playing/gaming?
[8:34] <herdingcat> I compiled a customized kernel and used manual rootfs
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[8:36] <ParkerR_> chaz68, Heh
[8:37] <ParkerR_> I would be so sad if something physical happened to this SD card
[8:37] <ParkerR_> I've done so much
[8:38] <ParkerR_> chaz68, And I don't really see the Pi as recreational. The more I use it, the more I see it as actually being a small, low power, low cost computer
[8:40] <chaz68> To me - having spent $5,000, $1,000, and/or $500 on systems all the time - $35 is a recreational toy compared to my other systems.
[8:41] <chaz68> But it can be very functional... Primarily just setting up these for friends / buddies of mine who might benefit from some of the server functionality Pi can provide.
[8:41] <ParkerR_> Or Quake 3
[8:41] <ParkerR_> Quake 3 is always a bonus :)
[8:41] <chaz68> You playing Quake 3 on your Pi?
[8:41] <ParkerR_> Yessir
[8:41] <chaz68> Been a long time since I played Q3....
[8:42] <chaz68> Using a mouse and hard drive and an HDMI monitor?
[8:42] <ParkerR_> chaz68, No need for hard drive
[8:42] <ParkerR_> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=78&t=18853
[8:42] <chaz68> I guess not if you don't have any expansion packs and what not.
[8:43] <ParkerR_> Jeeze Quake 3 isnt that big
[8:43] <ParkerR_> Base paks are a few hundred megabytes
[8:43] <chaz68> Used to love Q3 but my eyes have really gone to hell and I just can't play that stuff for really long anymore without my eyes drying up...
[8:43] <ParkerR_> Aww
[8:46] <chaz68> how responsive is Q3 on the pi?
[8:46] <ParkerR_> Pretty good
[8:46] <ParkerR_> Still haven't tweaked my controls
[8:46] <ParkerR_> Need to mess with mouse settings
[8:46] <chaz68> Man... I remember needing some beefy hardware back in the day to run it. Especially a good video card.
[8:47] <ParkerR_> And now it can be done on a $35 computer heh
[8:47] <arnorhs> :)
[8:48] <ParkerR_> herdingcat, Might be good to include them just in case
[8:51] <herdingcat> ParkerR_, but it seems the system does not recognize those libs
[8:51] <herdingcat> ParkerR_, after I used new kernel
[8:51] <ParkerR_> Hmm I dunno
[8:52] <herdingcat> ParkerR_, what's the actual usage of those libs?
[8:52] <ParkerR_> vcgencmd for one
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[8:54] <clear`> man
[8:54] <clear`> im dumb ;\
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[8:54] <ParkerR_> clear`, Whats up?
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[8:55] <clear`> lol
[8:55] <clear`> been struggling with this pandora script
[8:55] <clear`> then decided to try to install via from zip
[8:55] <clear`> and it installed flawlessly
[8:55] <ParkerR_> Haha
[8:56] <ParkerR_> What were you trying to do?
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[8:57] <TAFB_ssd> hey ParkerR_ :)
[8:57] <clear`> it said to extract the .zip and move it to .xbmc/addons
[8:57] <clear`> but that didnt work
[8:57] <mrmoney2012> set up a raspberry nas over christmas - seems to work well
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[8:57] <ParkerR_> TAFB_ssd, Whats up
[8:57] <TAFB_ssd> mrmoney2012: nice. Run any speed/load tests on it? iozone? etc.
[8:57] <TAFB_ssd> ParkerR_: not much! Got my kernel upgraded! http://tafb.yi.org
[8:58] <ParkerR_> Nice
[8:58] <Bernte> question: what's the current
[8:58] <TAFB_ssd> now running EXT4 on the whole drive, tweaked fstab and write journaling, workin sweet.
[8:58] <Bernte> order delay for RaspPi?
[8:58] <ParkerR_> Bernte, Wasnt very long for me
[8:59] <clear`> some places have them in stock now
[8:59] <ParkerR_> Order on Nov 23 arrived on Nov 27th
[8:59] <ParkerR_> element14
[8:59] <TAFB_ssd> ParkerR_: i did some testing with Arch on my Pi. the tweaked fstab made a huge difference in performance on the SD card!! the "noatime" seemed to have done the most.
[8:59] <Bernte> ParkerR_: ok, so I can expect them to be in stock everywhere.
[8:59] <ParkerR_> *Ordered
[8:59] <TAFB_ssd> I put the fstab line on my status page, should give it a whirl :)
[9:00] <ParkerR_> TAFB_ssd, Umm I thought this was the seagate thing?
[9:00] <TAFB_ssd> it is, but I fired up Arch on my Pi to run back to back comparisons, fair and all
[9:00] <TAFB_ssd> and tested it on my Pi, 18% faster writes!
[9:00] <ParkerR_> TAFB_ssd, You linked to the seagate status page
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[9:01] <clear`> ok that was easy!
[9:01] <clear`> woot
[9:01] <TAFB_ssd> yeah, fstab is same for pi, just replace sda1 with the mmc thing (look what you're using under mount)
[9:01] <ParkerR_> Ahh ok
[9:02] <TAFB_ssd> enable journal data writeback, use those tweaked fstab options, and re-run your iozone tests and I'll print ya a side by side chart :)
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[9:08] <herdingcat> what's the actual usage of VC libs?
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[9:24] <Gallomimia> i'm having trouble with the volume when using hdmi sound output. any suggestions? the OS is raspbian
[9:25] <mrmoney2012> clear`: which add-on ?
[9:25] <mrmoney2012> clear`: am keen to try some add-ons for my pi
[9:29] <herdingcat> what's the actual usage of VC libs?
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[9:43] <rymate1234> guys?
[9:43] <TAFB_ssd> sup?
[9:43] <rymate1234> why is sshing into my Pi so slow
[9:44] <TAFB_ssd> do you have a fancy colourful prompt? slowed mine down quite a bit: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-22-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_arch_linux_hack/2012-12-26-Seagate_GoFlex_Home_hacked_with_Arch_Linux_custom_bash.rc.png
[9:45] <rymate1234> well, I'mtrying to transfer a file via sftp
[9:45] <rymate1234> and its rinning at 60 Kb/s
[9:45] <TAFB_ssd> wow, 60? yikes.
[9:45] <rymate1234> even though its goingthrough my homr network
[9:45] <rymate1234> also I hate y laptop keyboard
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[9:45] <TAFB_ssd> did you look at your log to see if you're getting bad block messages on the sdcard?
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[9:48] <rymate1234> How do I do that?
[9:48] <TAFB_ssd> no idea, never had to do it. lots of people post their bad block logs on here, so it must be pretty easy
[9:48] <rymate1234> yay
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[9:52] <rymate1234> meh
[9:52] <rymate1234> this is too slow
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[9:59] <Gallomimia> i have to say.... sdcards cost 5 dollars. if you're having problems try a new one
[10:00] <TomWij> Unless you go for the high size / high class ones.
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[10:01] <rymate1234> probably going to go for a high speed one next time I buy one
[10:01] <TAFB_zzz> nite nite
[10:01] <TAFB_zzz> this is the fastest one I've used in a Pi so far, no errors, super stable: http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Memory-PEF32GSHC10233-Series-Class/dp/B007R9NJ6E
[10:02] <TomWij> herdingcat: VC stands for VideoCore, the libraries are used to interact with the Broadcom VideoCore IV GPU on the Raspberry Pi.
[10:03] <|Jeroen|> lollo64it, that sd costs almost as much as the whole pi
[10:03] <|Jeroen|> arg
[10:03] <TomWij> TAFB_zzz: I'm buying a similar SanDisk one, just first bought one along to be able start out once I receive it.
[10:03] <herdingcat> TomWij, Do I need that if not playing videos/gaming?
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[10:04] <rymate1234> the one I'm llooking to get is this one http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0037FLUYU/ref=wl_it_dp_o_pC_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=19BEBS9X5FANA&coliid=I1GWOYWHKT8CFL
[10:04] <TomWij> herdingcat: Well, the question is rather what you are doing with it. But if it's nothing on the graphical edge, then no, you probably might not need it.
[10:05] <rymate1234> gotta go
[10:05] <herdingcat> TomWij, no graphic stuff, I'm playing it w/ the rootfs I created.
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[10:12] <TomWij> clear`: "i have my pi booting directly to xbmc" I've written a small-ish CEC service that listens whether the TV gets switched to the Raspberry Pi output, when that happens it starts XBMC; and then I've set XBMC to shut down itself after 15 minutes, such that it doesn't keep using 30% - 100% all the time and only really is running when people actually use it.
[10:13] <herdingcat> TomWij, but I'm thinking if lightweight wm can also run, right?
[10:13] <|Jeroen|> what if you then pause a movie ?
[10:13] <|Jeroen|> does it stay o
[10:13] <|Jeroen|> n
[10:14] <TomWij> herdingcat: WM / X run non-accelerated, so they don't use the libraries.
[10:15] <herdingcat> TomWij, got it.
[10:15] <TomWij> |Jeroen|: Haven't tried, although I believe it uses less CPU at that point since it isn't drawing a full XBMC menu at that time.
[10:16] <|Jeroen|> yeah i guess so, but it should stay on, so you can resume watching later on
[10:16] * gordonDrogon waves
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[10:16] <TomWij> |Jeroen|: Actually, no, it doesn't need to stay on; XBMC has a resume feature for that.
[10:17] <|Jeroen|> yeah but you would have to renavigate tot the dir
[10:17] <TomWij> Or use the search, it doesn't really take long to do that.
[10:18] <TomWij> 15 min is quite long to stay away from a movie anyway.
[10:18] <|Jeroen|> well, i messed with my xbmc and now its down to about 20% cpu on idle
[10:18] <|Jeroen|> still i like your concept
[10:19] <|Jeroen|> what did you write it in ?
[10:19] <TomWij> |Jeroen|: Different menus use different amounts of CPU, even just on the main menu you can get it to show different amounts; eg. compare when you go over Videos against when you go over the Movies (that show last added movies at the top).
[10:19] <TomWij> |Jeroen|: Simple C++
[10:19] <|Jeroen|> do you share it ?, or is it private
[10:19] <TomWij> Although in a somewhat C-ish style.
[10:19] <TomWij> |Jeroen|: Sure, moment.
[10:20] <rymate1234> hmm
[10:20] <rymate1234> guys
[10:20] <rymate1234> I have an 8GB usb memory stick
[10:20] <rymate1234> is it possible to move my rootfs onto it?
[10:21] <|Jeroen|> i guess so rymate1234 , but i haven"t tried it
[10:21] <rymate1234> k
[10:21] <|Jeroen|> just try it
[10:22] <rymate1234> well
[10:22] <rymate1234> reasonI was asking was because I dunno how
[10:22] <rymate1234> lol
[10:22] <|Jeroen|> move it, and change the cmdline.txt
[10:23] <TomWij> |Jeroen|: https://gist.github.com/6df528ed6c2f5287ce7a You need to replace the AA:BB:CC:DD by the MAC address of your CEC adapter, you can figure that out when using cec-client from libcec and looking what it outputs when you switch from anything to the RPi.
[10:23] <TomWij> s/MAC/Hardware/ :D
[10:24] <|Jeroen|> thx il give it a try this week
[10:24] <TomWij> Or type something random there and instead use the "Press OK" functionality.
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[10:24] <rymate1234> hey
[10:25] <rymate1234> I see kernel 3.6 is now the stable rpi kernel
[10:25] <TomWij> |Jeroen|: I basically have a bash script loop `clear > /dev/tty0 ; /root/CEC/main ; clear > /dev/tty0 ; sleep 1 ; xbmc ; sleep 5` over and over again.
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[10:26] <|Jeroen|> ok i c
[10:26] <TomWij> The first sleep makes XBMC not take the CEC adapter too fast, whereas the second sleep is used to give you some time to switch back to the TV after switching off XBMC.
[10:26] <TomWij> It should be noted that it also reacts when you switch to the TV, since it sends that exact same message.
[10:26] <TomWij> I plan on making it more reliable at some point, but this does the job for now.... :D
[10:27] <TomWij> (I need to write it so that it only switches when it detects two messages within a time span)
[10:27] <TomWij> Like "One message? Someone switches away. Two message? Someone switches to RPi."
[10:28] <|Jeroen|> ow, i have no cec experience atm
[10:28] <TomWij> Or I might be just missing some CEC experience on how to properly detect if it was made the active source.
[10:28] <TomWij> In any case, I haven't found the isActiveSource() (or what's it called...) to work reliably...
[10:29] <TomWij> rymate1234: Oh, really?
[10:29] <rymate1234> seems to be
[10:29] <rymate1234> only issue is a lack of Zram built in
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[10:51] <Toothpick> hey TomWij, it just failed the configuration again by missing "checking for main in -lgpg-error... no"
[10:51] <Toothpick> TomWij: so i added libgpg-error as a DEPEND
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[10:52] <TomWij> I didn't had this missing dependency either.
[10:53] <Toothpick> so many bugs in this ebuild... that's why i don't like 9999's :)
[10:53] <TomWij> But well, is this a progress update or does adding that extra dependency failed?
[10:54] <TomWij> And yeah, sometimes it might be better to port the 9999 fetching into the last non-9999 version ebuild.
[10:54] <TomWij> (I've used an ebuild made for the RPi, but that ebuild was horribly broken in other ways as well)
[10:55] <Toothpick> TomWij: weird, when i emerge xbmc it does not pull dev-libs/libgpg-error to the merge
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[10:57] <TomWij> Yeah, something odd going on there.
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[11:07] <Toothpick> does xbmc need an X server to start? because I have not installed anything besides xbmc and its dependencies
[11:08] <|Jeroen|> no
[11:09] <Toothpick> |Jeroen|: so how does itwork ?
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[11:09] <|Jeroen|> dunno :-)
[11:10] <rymate1234> Toothpick, renders directly to the framebuffer afaik
[11:10] <Toothpick> rymate1234: is it possible to see xbmc's gui and switch to a tty?
[11:10] <rymate1234> No
[11:10] <rymate1234> not afaik
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[11:11] <gordonDrogon> you could login via ssh, or serial...
[11:12] <gordonDrogon> if xmbc does everything via the gpu then it sort of overrides the normal frambuffer AIUI.
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[11:16] <rymate1234> yay trying to get kde working from http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?uid=37388&f=66&t=22637
[11:17] <|Jeroen|> isn't that to bloated ?
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[11:18] <rymate1234> well
[11:18] <rymate1234> can't get i launching at the moment
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[11:20] <gordonDrogon> Odd to think that the first unix computer I used X windows on had 4MB of RAM..
[11:21] <gordonDrogon> We did upgrade it to 12MB in time though.
[11:21] <Gallomimia> fancy
[11:21] <gordonDrogon> then were the days ;)
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[11:21] <rymate1234> first linux I used was Ubuntu
[11:21] <xzr> oh the days of dos gaming
[11:21] <Gallomimia> anyone who can fathom why my screen keeps flickering from rather bright to rather dim? rather long cycle time
[11:21] <xzr> where can I get that additional 2k of ram needed
[11:22] <gordonDrogon> Hm. might fire up my 46KB Apple II and play some proper retro games this afternoon...
[11:22] <rymate1234> it was 9.04 or something and used 128MB ram
[11:22] <Gallomimia> number munchers!
[11:22] <gordonDrogon> :)
[11:22] <neilr> gordonDrogon: I still play Elite regularly :)
[11:22] <rymate1234> I had endless fun making panels and playing Nibbles
[11:22] <Gallomimia> wizards castle
[11:22] <Gallomimia> tower?
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[11:22] <Gallomimia> the copy i had was corrupt or something, wouldn't run
[11:22] <Gallomimia> and i couldn't find another
[11:23] <gordonDrogon> neilr, I have a bbc B too, but no disk drive for it. not sure if I still have my old bbc floppies either - a lot of my original beeb stuff got stolen years ago )-:
[11:23] <rymate1234> K
[11:23] <neilr> :(
[11:23] <rymate1234> kde works from the login screen
[11:23] <rymate1234> butnot xinit
[11:23] <xzr> warez back then was great
[11:23] <xzr> copy and spread across 30 floppies
[11:23] <xzr> one in the middle is corrupt
[11:23] <rymate1234> lol
[11:23] <xzr> ooooh yeaaah
[11:24] <Gallomimia> anyone think i could run steam for linux on this thing?
[11:24] <gordonDrogon> I actually bought games and things...
[11:24] <xzr> the kids these days have it too easy!
[11:24] <Gallomimia> no. i doubt they compiled it for arm :(
[11:24] <gordonDrogon> Gallomimia, I doubt it - I'd guess that the steam slients are compiled x86 code...
[11:24] <Gallomimia> curses
[11:24] <neilr> Same here. I should have set up a standing order with Jeff Minter for his games
[11:24] <|Jeroen|> lol nothing beats gaming on the old c64 :-)
[11:24] <Gallomimia> i obviously don't want to play the games. just login to steam chat
[11:24] <|Jeroen|> with tape deck
[11:24] <rymate1234> k
[11:25] <rymate1234> got a panel
[11:25] <rymate1234> and a white desktop
[11:25] <rymate1234> oh hey its loaded
[11:26] <gordonDrogon> people fall into several distinct 'camps' for the early stuff - I was probably 'too early' in that I started on the Apple II and was at uny when the Beeb came out, so never got into any other computers really, although I had friends who were into the Atati ST and Amiga... I think my early experiences with the PET put me off commodore things though...
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[11:26] <rymate1234> huh
[11:26] <rymate1234> works rather well
[11:26] <rymate1234> bit slow
[11:27] <neilr> the earliest games I saw were on a UK101 and some TRS-80 clone. That's when I started programming, as they were so dire I thought I could do better.
[11:27] <|Jeroen|> i would go for xfce if you want a nice fast desktop
[11:27] <neilr> I couldn't.
[11:27] <rymate1234> although as |Jeroen| said, it is bloated
[11:27] <neilr> If you want a fast desktop use RISC OS :)
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[11:28] <|Jeroen|> but what can u do with risc os ?
[11:28] <rymate1234> neilr, is that linux?
[11:28] <neilr> I'm typing this with RISC OS for a start
[11:28] <neilr> Is it linux? No, it's RISC OS
[11:28] <rymate1234> right
[11:28] <neilr> Totally different thing! Design
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[11:28] <|Jeroen|> does it have any apps ?
[11:29] <neilr> What like the IRC client I'm typing this on?
[11:29] <Hoerie> no, like whatsapp ;-)
[11:29] <rymate1234> no lol
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[11:29] <rymate1234> if you want mobilel apps
[11:30] <rymate1234> get a phone
[11:30] <|Jeroen|> no regular aps
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[11:32] <viric> hello!
[11:32] <viric> I've some dmesg annoying traces
[11:32] <viric> [207600.751918] ksoftirqd/0: page allocation failure: order:0, mode:0x20
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[11:32] <viric> (and backtraces and all that)
[11:33] <|Jeroen|> the screenshots look kinda crapy
[11:34] <jelly1> risc :D
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[11:34] <neilr> what, you mean screenshots of RISC OS look bad?
[11:34] <|Jeroen|> yeah
[11:35] <|Jeroen|> looks like an old mac
[11:35] <neilr> heh. Well, I'd rather some something fast than eye candy, but each to their own.
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[11:35] <|Jeroen|> well a bit of both is nice
[11:35] <rymate1234> so fast eye candy!
[11:35] <|Jeroen|> yes
[11:36] <|Jeroen|> like xfce, its fast, but you can make it look nice
[11:36] <neilr> I guess it's just what you're used to. I prefer the RISC OS desktop to XFCE, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder
[11:36] <neilr> KDE is too bloaty these days
[11:36] <neilr> and I never really tried LXDE that much
[11:37] <rymate1234> kde is working quite nicely here :D
[11:37] <|Jeroen|> never liked kde
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[11:38] <neilr> Anyway - if you're looking for a fast desktop, give RISC OS a go on a spare SD card. It's worth a go.
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[11:38] <|Jeroen|> wel don't have a free one atm
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[11:38] <|Jeroen|> but i will try it lateron
[11:40] <artag> what do you use a desktop for ?
[11:40] <|Jeroen|> browsing and irc mostly
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[11:40] <artag> don't you have a pc for that ?
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[11:40] <|Jeroen|> yeah
[11:40] <artag> so what's the advantage of using a pi ?
[11:40] <|Jeroen|> power consumption
[11:40] <neilr> I use a pi for all my desktop needs now
[11:41] <neilr> silent
[11:41] <neilr> cheap
[11:41] <|Jeroen|> wel i only use my pi for xbmc arm
[11:41] <|Jeroen|> atm
[11:41] <neilr> fun to play with LEDs connected to the GPIO pins :)
[11:41] <|Jeroen|> what browser does riscos have ?
[11:41] <neilr> NetSurf
[11:41] <neilr> It's a bit rubbish
[11:41] <|Jeroen|> netkit ?
[11:41] <|Jeroen|> ah
[11:41] <neilr> Actually it's very rubbish
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[11:41] <artag> i have the pc (linux) desktop on all the time anyway, so can't really see a use for a pi in that respect
[11:42] <artag> prefer to use the pi headless
[11:42] <|Jeroen|> lollo64it, and no alternative browsers ?
[11:42] <|Jeroen|> dam
[11:42] <|Jeroen|> fecking xchat
[11:42] <neilr> Firefox is compiled on RISC OS, but I've not used it
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[11:43] <neilr> NetSurf is OK, as long as you don't want JavaScript
[11:43] <|Jeroen|> well i love opera, but don't think there are any arm versions
[11:43] <jelly1> neilr: but so much requires js
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[11:43] <jelly1> Pi desktop for low power artag ;)
[11:43] <neilr> I know - it's being tested at the moment
[11:44] <neilr> But it's not quite stable yet
[11:45] <artag> well, it's lower power, true. but I do want to actually DO something. there's no way I'd move all the stuff on a desktop onto a 16GB sd card
[11:45] <|Jeroen|> install a fileserver
[11:46] <viric> there are better solutions, if you can afford more than $25 :)
[11:46] <|Jeroen|> lol
[11:46] <viric> the raspberry pi is a toy
[11:47] <rymate1234> it was only meant for education (the raspberry pi)
[11:47] <|Jeroen|> well it does a pretty good job as an mce
[11:47] <|Jeroen|> gonna pay it self back quite quickly
[11:47] <viric> well, you can also build a spoon and a fork with lego pieces
[11:47] <artag> toy isn't quite right. it's useful for certain jobs, like an arduino is. but that doesn't mean I want to use it for day-to-day stuff
[11:47] <viric> and eat with them
[11:47] <neilr> viric: that's a bit harsh, given the original plan as an educational device
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[11:48] <|Jeroen|> mhzz a logo fork doesn't seem practical
[11:48] <viric> don't get me wrong; I just mean that using the pi as a main desktop computer is a bid weird :)
[11:48] <viric> |Jeroen|: lego
[11:48] <artag> yes, that's my thinking
[11:48] <neilr> Ah, right. Agreed - it has limitations there
[11:48] <|Jeroen|> yeah lego
[11:48] <viric> both lego and the pi are very educational.
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[11:48] <viric> I agree.
[11:48] <|Jeroen|> lol
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[11:48] <neilr> But the fact that it's even capable of doing it is pretty good for a 35 euro device
[11:49] <viric> yes
[11:49] <rymate1234> gonna try risc os
[11:49] <viric> but there 45??? devices that do some things nicer :)
[11:49] <Hoerie> the pi is really more like a 50 euro device, as the power requirements are finicky
[11:50] <viric> Hoerie: I use it with a 8??? power supply
[11:50] <|Jeroen|> nah, i just used an old transfo
[11:50] <Hoerie> out of all my adapters only one actually works with the pi
[11:50] <nid0> I use mine with any one of the power supplies I have lying round
[11:50] <nid0> got like 10 kicking round the house and all power my pi perfectly
[11:50] <neilr> Same here - I've used several power supplies, and all work with no problem
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[11:51] <viric> I had to buy a power supply for it. I never had a microusb power supply before.
[11:51] <|Jeroen|> yeah they should have used mini usb instead of that micro
[11:51] <neilr> I started with a Kindle charger. Until my wife wanted it back :-/
[11:52] <nid0> why on earth would they use mini usb
[11:52] <|Jeroen|> its more common
[11:52] <Hoerie> my old htc chargers either wouldn't fit or had too low voltage/power
[11:52] <xzr> miniusb is more common?
[11:52] <nid0> it might have been more common in the stone age, maybe
[11:52] <xzr> are you on meth?
[11:52] <|Jeroen|> yeah
[11:52] <xzr> explains it
[11:52] <nid0> my last mini usb phone was bought in 2007
[11:52] <artag> dunno, I do have lots more mini cables but the psus are all low current. my microusb chargers are 750mA up and all work fine
[11:52] <Hoerie> micro usb should be more common as the eu proscribes it for phone chargers
[11:52] <artag> so i think they'd have had even more trouble if they'd used mini
[11:53] <xzr> the only things I've seen use miniusb the past few years is usb hubs and cameras
[11:53] <neilr> card readers as well
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[11:53] <artag> and micro is a better standard - larger number of insertions, better latching
[11:53] <|Jeroen|> still i don't like the micro
[11:53] <artag> mini should just die
[11:53] <|Jeroen|> its hardly smaller
[11:53] <rymate1234> mini usb is outdated
[11:53] <|Jeroen|> and its more fragile
[11:53] <nid0> no it isnt
[11:53] <nid0> its far less fragile
[11:54] <rymate1234> micro usb is the new standard
[11:54] <|Jeroen|> pfft, i poop on it :-)
[11:54] <nid0> http://www.usb.org/developers/Deprecation_Announcement_052507.pdf
[11:54] <nid0> mini usb = officially deprecated since 2007
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[11:55] <|Jeroen|> pitty :-p
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[11:55] <nid0> good riddance
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[11:55] <neilr> What am I going to do with the 94 mini-USB cables I've gathered over the years? :)
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[11:56] <neilr> Knit a scarf?
[11:56] <rymate1234> neilr, get a micro usb to mini usb adaptor
[11:56] <|Jeroen|> yeah thats my problem to neilr
[11:56] <|Jeroen|> lol that probablt costs more then a cable
[11:56] <artag> actually, that doesn't deprecate mini-b plug. unfortunately
[11:56] <Hoerie> get a wife, she'll force you to throw junk out ;-)
[11:56] <neilr> :)
[11:57] <artag> only mini-a and mini-ab, which i've never even seen
[11:57] <rymate1234> neilr, recycle them
[11:57] <artag> the common one is mini-b
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[11:58] * plugwash has used a mini AB plug with a mini A socket
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[11:58] <plugwash> sorry wrong way round mini A plug mini AB socket
[12:01] <Phrewfuf> what? miniusb is deprecated?
[12:01] <Phrewfuf> and i was soldering it to all my projects all the time :(
[12:01] <plugwash> Phrewfuf, mini AB and mini A are deprecated, mini B is not
[12:02] <Gallomimia> "standards" authorities != democracy
[12:02] <Phrewfuf> actually i don't really know, which mini i was using
[12:02] <artag> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Usb_connectors.JPG
[12:02] <artag> you were probably using 3rd from the left, which is mini-b
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[12:03] <Phrewfuf> artag: yup, 3d from left
[12:03] <plugwash> A connectors are (supposed to be) used for the host end, B connectors are (supposed to be) used for the device end.
[12:03] <artag> yes, though usb-otg screwed things up somewhat
[12:04] <plugwash> AB connectors are (suppposed to be) used on on-the-go devices that support both host and device modes
[12:04] <plugwash> unfortunately i've seen a LOT of OTG devices with B connectors where they should have AB connectors
[12:06] <plugwash> which in turn has lead to OTG adaptors with B connectors to connect to the device
[12:06] <artag> what do usb3 devices have on the deviec end ? I know the A end has a connector with two sets of contacts
[12:08] <plugwash> There are two B connectors for superspeed. The superspeed standard B has a new section with the superspeed contacts above the low/full/high speed connections. The superspeed micro B has a new section with the superspeed contacts next to the low/full/high speed contacts
[12:08] <artag> ah, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Connector_USB_3_IMGP6033_wp_.jpg
[12:09] <rymate1234> well
[12:09] <plugwash> regular full/low/high speed cables can be used with superspeed devices but superspeed cables cannot be used with regular full/low/high speed devices
[12:09] <rymate1234> risc osboot fast
[12:10] <|Jeroen|> lol now try to read gmail with it
[12:10] <|Jeroen|> thats kinde essential
[12:11] <Phrewfuf> hm...does anyone have a schematic of a pi extension board with an RTC on it?
[12:11] <rymate1234> lets see if it supports wifi
[12:11] <rymate1234> (lol)
[12:11] <|Jeroen|> ai
[12:11] <neilr> Nope - no wifi support in any version of RISC OS
[12:11] <rymate1234> well shit
[12:12] <neilr> I'm reading Gmail though - no problem there
[12:12] <|Jeroen|> the js version ?
[12:12] <|Jeroen|> or the html only
[12:12] <artag> Phrewfuf: https://github.com/CisecoPlc/EVE-Alpha-Eagle
[12:12] <plugwash> http://www.datapro.net/images/usb_3_b.jpg <-- that's the standard B
[12:12] <artag> though that's a quite complicated board, not a good example for just RTC
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[12:12] <neilr> HTML
[12:12] <Macer> hello
[12:13] <rymate1234> right
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[12:15] <artag> plugwash: eek, that's horrible !
[12:15] <|Jeroen|> yeah
[12:15] <plugwash> why don't you like it?
[12:15] <|Jeroen|> why did they even make such a big one
[12:15] <|Jeroen|> why noy have 1 std small connector
[12:15] <artag> overcomplicated shape, no latch
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[12:16] <artag> at least the A plug hides it's botchy two-level thing away
[12:16] <Phrewfuf> artag: uuh, nice schematic
[12:16] <Phrewfuf> ah isn't that this radio board?
[12:17] <artag> you think ? i hate schematics that are all cut up like that :)
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[12:17] <plugwash> |Jeroen|, well there is what I call the "big device small connector problem"
[12:17] <artag> yeah, it's a radio board
[12:17] <rymate1234> internet connection sharing ftw
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[12:17] <Phrewfuf> artag: from a certain size of the schematic splitting makes sense
[12:17] <plugwash> big heavy device+small fragile connector=things likely to get broken
[12:17] <artag> it's easy to draw, but hard to follow
[12:18] <artag> takes a lot of searching to find where the labels go
[12:18] <Phrewfuf> yeah but when you just connect everything you will have a green mess
[12:18] <artag> yeah, drawing a schematic out so it's readable is an art
[12:19] <artag> most people just want to get the connectivity entered so their board layout can work
[12:19] <plugwash> IMO the BEST way to do it is to use bus structures
[12:19] <artag> mostly, yeah. though that can struggle sometimes
[12:20] <Phrewfuf> btw artag, are you sure this is for the pi?
[12:20] <plugwash> that way you avoid unreadable rats nests while also avoiding the need for the reader to constantly look things up
[12:20] <artag> yes, it's ciseco's EVE radio board. it sits on the pi and connects a whole load of radio modules
[12:20] <artag> but also has rtc and temp sensor
[12:20] <rymate1234> I HAVE INTERNET
[12:21] <artag> i've seen a much more minimal rtc board but don't know if there's a schematic
[12:22] <artag> http://www.hobbytronics.co.uk/real-time-clock-module-ds1302
[12:23] * Phrewfuf shrugs
[12:23] <Phrewfuf> Through hole components
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[12:27] <rymate1234> Meh
[12:27] <rymate1234> not a fan of risc os
[12:27] <rymate1234> its too basic
[12:27] <artag> i agree it's fast and small, but it's a dead-end imho
[12:28] <rymate1234> hasn't even got wifi
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[12:31] <neilr> Yeah, lack of wifi is a problem at the moment
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[12:31] <plugwash> afaict it also lacks premptive multitasking and memory protection
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[12:31] <thewanderer1> hi. my raspi doesn't boot up (used to work fine, failed one day). voltage across TP1->TP2 is 1.3V, all regulators (tried on-board and external 7805T) get hot. any ideas?
[12:31] <rymate1234> sounds bad
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[12:33] <thewanderer1> I tried powering it with the said 7805T (5V) via GPIO pins 2 and 6 (labelled 5V and GND in the schematics)
[12:33] <thewanderer1> sounds like a short to me, but I want to confirm with you guys
[12:34] <artag> certainly sounds like something is taking excessive current
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[12:35] <plugwash> Afaict riscos was good in it's day but it bears more resemblence to win3.x or classic macos than to any modern OS
[12:35] <thewanderer1> looking at the board at the moment, but I don't know how to identify one...
[12:36] <neilr> That's a fair comparison really - that's kind of why I like it. It's small and fast, and to me, that's more important than looking nice.
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[12:36] <thewanderer1> nothing seems to be yelling "hey, I'm burned, replace me" at the first glance
[12:37] <artag> i don't have a problem with how it looks, it's fairly clean and tidy and not full of cruft. it's the lack of multitasking I think kills it.
[12:37] <plugwash> If I had to troubleshoot such a board i'd probablly remove the regulators so I could test which rail was the source of the problem
[12:37] <plugwash> then i'd pump about an amp through the short and follow it round the board with a voltmeter
[12:37] <plugwash> but for a Pi the effort involved in doing that probablly isn't worth it
[12:38] <thewanderer1> so... qualifies for a return (if at all)?
[12:38] <SpeedEvil> especially as you almost certainly can't fix the chips
[12:38] <artag> nothing to lose by trying ..
[12:38] <artag> (a return)
[12:38] <neilr> artag: it does multitask - but cooperative, rather than preemptive
[12:38] <neilr> in other words, if I louse up my code, it needs a reboot :)
[12:38] <artag> yes, that puts all the effort on the application programmer. not a good choice
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[12:39] <artag> to a user, not so much of a problem
[12:39] <plugwash> thewanderer1, assuming you didn't do anything unreasonable to that board then IMO yes you should return it
[12:39] <neilr> Agreed - but sometimes it can be nice to have the full undivided attention of the processor. It's a double-edged sword.
[12:40] <thewanderer1> plugwash, well, it was used as a music player, and then one day... all LEDs off, dead
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[12:42] <thewanderer1> it's from a reseller, I'll probably contact them first
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[12:59] <newbe5> Could someone please give me a clue how to correctly install libsdl1.2 on Raspbmc? I'm trying to run Gngeo and getting: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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[13:02] <newbe5> I'm trying to install LIBSDL-IMAGE1.2 with apt-get, but it's failing to connect to archive.raspbian.org
[13:02] <newbe5> Could not resolve 'archive.raspbian.org'
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[13:04] <thewanderer1> newbe5, it resolves for me... you might have a network problem
[13:04] <bs123> i don't see that image there though
[13:04] <bs123> do you thewanderer1
[13:05] <thewanderer1> not sure, my only raspi is fried at the moment :/
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[13:05] <bs123> shouldn't we be able to see it in a browser though?
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[13:06] <bs123> maybe i'm missing something
[13:06] <plugwash> newbe5, how are you connecting you pi to the internet?
[13:07] <markedathome> I think I saw earlier that new firmware has been released, maybe by hexxeh. I know of the github site for rpi-update, but is there a rss feed for new releases and/or changelog?
[13:07] <thewanderer1> bs123, I think he needs SDL... it's called libsdl1.2debian here on Wheezy
[13:08] <thewanderer1> i.e. it's not a system image or anything
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[13:08] <bs123> k
[13:09] <newbe5> hrmm
[13:09] <newbe5> i can resolve it from my laptop
[13:09] <newbe5>
[13:09] <newbe5> if thats what your getting?
[13:09] <thewanderer1> well, can you resolve *anything* from the raspi?
[13:10] <thewanderer1> (and yeah, that IP address is correct)
[13:10] <rymate1234> ok
[13:10] <rymate1234> just restored my Pi's sd card from a backup due to fs corruption
[13:11] <markedathome> cat /etc/resolv.conf ; should be a field nameserver 192.168.x.x or similar, where 192.168.x.x is my router for example
[13:11] <rymate1234> appears to be stuck at "Waiting for /dev to be fully populated"
[13:11] <newbe5> is there an nslookup equivalent on linux?
[13:12] <newbe5> I'm still learning :P
[13:12] <markedathome> yes, nslookup :-)
[13:12] <markedathome> also dig
[13:12] <newbe5> -bash command not found :/
[13:12] <newbe5> for nslookup
[13:12] <markedathome> but you need them both installed :-)
[13:12] <rymate1234> ok
[13:12] <markedathome> newbe5: cat /etc/resolv.conf
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[13:12] <markedathome> do that command
[13:13] <newbe5> no such file or directory
[13:14] <newbe5> I can ping archive.raspbian.org from PC, but not from the pi
[13:14] <markedathome> um... how did you set up networking? are you using dhcp or static ip address, did you use network management tool?
[13:14] <newbe5> but I can ping the IP from the pi
[13:14] <newbe5> so, DNS setting?
[13:15] <thewanderer1> newbe5, can you ping from the raspi?
[13:15] <markedathome> yes, resolv.conf contains the ip address of the dns
[13:15] <newbe5> I'm using googles dns servers on my laptop
[13:15] <rymate1234> guys, I have a tip
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[13:15] <rymate1234> don't overcockto 1ghz
[13:15] <newbe5> thewanderer1: yea I can
[13:15] <rymate1234> apparently corrupts file systems
[13:15] <rymate1234> lmao
[13:15] <newbe5> how do I change the dns servers on the pi then?
[13:16] <thewanderer1> newbe5, echo "nameserver" >/etc/resolv.conf
[13:16] <newbe5> permission denied
[13:16] <markedathome> sudo ^^ in front
[13:16] <newbe5> even as sudo
[13:16] <newbe5> I'm SSH'd in using the pi user atm
[13:16] <thewanderer1> newbe5, use su to log in as root... it will not work with sudo, either
[13:17] <newbe5> any idea what the default root password us?
[13:17] <bs123> rymate1234 at what voltage?
[13:17] <newbe5> *is
[13:17] <rymate1234> bs123, 5V powered usb hub
[13:17] <plugwash> there isn't one, you have to use sudo
[13:17] <rymate1234> probbaly not enough power
[13:17] <thewanderer1> newbe5, no idea, but you can use `sudo su` instead
[13:17] <plugwash> you can use "sudo bash" to get a root shell and run the command from there
[13:17] <newbe5> gotcha :)
[13:18] <rymate1234> you can also set a root password with "sudo passwd"
[13:18] <bs123> rymate1234 did you up the voltage to the cpu?
[13:18] <newbe5> is it worth doing that for future?
[13:18] <markedathome> I can do sudo vi /etc/resolv.conf, so presumably you can do the same with nano, or other editor
[13:18] <rymate1234> bs123, I used the raspi-config method to overclock
[13:18] <bs123> k
[13:18] <newbe5> I've run the echo
[13:18] <bs123> yeah 1 ghz is pushing it
[13:19] <markedathome> ping www.google.com
[13:19] <newbe5> the file is there now
[13:19] <markedathome> should work straight away
[13:19] <newbe5> yup!
[13:19] <newbe5> can ping the archive now too!
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[13:19] <newbe5> lovely jubbly :)
[13:19] <newbe5> thanks a lot!
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[13:21] <markedathome> if you are using then that is google's public dns servers, if you need change to the ip address, or use what is in your windows laptop network config
[13:21] <newbe5> right lets try this install again then :P
[13:21] <newbe5> still not sure its what I need
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[13:22] <newbe5> is chganging the dns server in there going to affect lookups internally?
[13:22] <newbe5> when the pi is connecting to LAN servers?
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[13:23] <newbe5> I guess it shouldnt
[13:23] <newbe5> im not 100% sure how linux does things :P
[13:23] <Datalink> plugwash, sudo -i is preferable
[13:23] <thewanderer1> there is no such thing as "LAN servers"... a server is a server, and LAN is just a network like any other
[13:24] <markedathome> essentially you should have resolv.conf being updated by a dhcp server when you first boot the pi. however if you have a localnet then you need to specify a local nameserver. you can also add
[13:24] <markedathome> domain mylocal.net
[13:24] <markedathome> search mylocal.net
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[13:24] <markedathome> so you can do ping laptop
[13:24] <markedathome> and it will ping laptop.mylocal.net
[13:24] <Datalink> on my LAN, everything just gets refered to by IP, cause I'm lazy and haven't set it up...
[13:25] <markedathome> the two lines are /etc/resolv.conf entries
[13:25] <Datalink> ssh
[13:25] <Datalink> that's for my Pi...
[13:25] <kvarley> Does anybody know of a webui or android app that will let me browse an SFTP server via the raspberry pi? So I can transfer files to the SFTP server through the raspberrypi ?
[13:25] <thewanderer1> Datalink, IPv6... wait for it... :)
[13:25] <markedathome> Datalink: go back to the old days with handcrafted /etc/hosts files! :-)
[13:26] <newbe5> I'm not on a domain, but I mean, do I need to also add my router as a DNS server, so the pi can resolve stuff internally?
[13:26] <Datalink> bah newfangled IP schemas...
[13:26] <markedathome> newbe5 yes, replace with the router address
[13:26] <newbe5> ill try doing that in vi and see if I can still resolve the archive
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[13:27] <Datalink> newbe5, do you have a DHCP on your network, the package dhclient3 is for having the Pi autodetect the DHCP info
[13:27] <Datalink> but this manual config is good for the soul
[13:27] <newbe5> yea, everything is on DHCP and I just give it a reservation once it's grabben an address on the router
[13:28] <newbe5> I've just got one of those basic Vigin Media superhub things
[13:28] <newbe5> yea switching DNS to in resolv.conf broke external resolution
[13:29] <markedathome> what does your laptop do?
[13:29] <Datalink> check what the other computers are using for the DNS server, and match that
[13:29] <newbe5> my laptop is set to use the google DNS servers
[13:29] <newbe5> DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . :
[13:30] <markedathome> ? well, that is strange. why isn't your router handing out dns entries?
[13:30] <thewanderer1> if it's set to use Google DNS, then it won't do internal resolution
[13:31] <newbe5> does though :P
[13:31] <newbe5> I can ping my pc from my laptop using DNS
[13:31] <newbe5> but nothing from the Pi works insternally
[13:31] <newbe5> even with the router set as the DNS server
[13:31] <thewanderer1> newbe5, I think you only think you're using DNS
[13:31] <newbe5> ok
[13:31] <markedathome> that is because windows machines broadcast their names on the network so other windows machines will build up entries
[13:32] <thewanderer1> NetBIOS or something
[13:32] <newbe5> ok, so the router might not have DNS turned on?
[13:32] <thewanderer1> yeah
[13:32] <markedathome> install dig or nslookup
[13:32] <markedathome> nslookup
[13:33] <markedathome> set server=<your.router.address>
[13:33] <markedathome> google.com
[13:33] <markedathome> should give you results from that specific name server
[13:33] <rymate1234> can't waitfor
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[13:33] <rymate1234> can't wait for when kde works on qt5
[13:34] <rymate1234> will work well with Qtonpi
[13:34] <rymate1234> lmao
[13:34] <newbe5> how do I search using apt?
[13:34] <newbe5> just tried apt-get install nslookup
[13:34] <newbe5> but cant find it
[13:34] <newbe5> need to work out how to find stuff :P
[13:34] <markedathome> sudo aptitude search <term>
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[13:35] <thewanderer1> or install apt-file to search for filenames in packages... you could use packages.debian.org too, assuming the packages are the same in raspbian :P
[13:35] <Dagger2> that's more aptitude than apt
[13:35] <artag> probably in dnsutils
[13:35] <artag> it is in my debian box
[13:35] <thewanderer1> yeah, apt itself doesn't search for files I think
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[13:35] <Dagger2> `apt-cache search <term>` for packages, or `apt-file search <term>` to search filenames
[13:35] <newbe5> aptitude: command not found
[13:36] <newbe5> lol
[13:36] <newbe5> install aptitude?
[13:36] <newbe5> phew, thanks for being patient here
[13:36] <newbe5> really fumbling in the dark :P
[13:36] <markedathome> sudo aptitude search <term>
[13:36] <Dagger2> `apt-cache search nslookup` is enough to find dnsutils, anyway
[13:37] <Dagger2> then you can `apt-cache show dnsutils` to find that it also includes dig, which is far more useful than nslookup
[13:37] <markedathome> all package management apt-get, aptitude etc require sudo
[13:37] <Dagger2> what? no it doesn't
[13:37] <Dagger2> if you're root, you can just them without
[13:38] <thewanderer1> searching for packages doesn't require root privileges, either... only modifications do (installing, updating, removing)
[13:38] <markedathome> but newbe5 is running as the pi user,
[13:38] <Dagger2> if you're not root, then you need some way of getting root... e.g. sudo or su or whatever, but other than that
[13:38] <newbe5> I'm actually still su'd as root
[13:38] <newbe5> so I can just go for it
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[13:39] <markedathome> well at least I now have nslookup and dig installed...
[13:40] <newbe5> I'm not actually sure this matters
[13:40] <newbe5> using should be fine
[13:40] <newbe5> because the only connections the pi is makig internally are using SMB
[13:40] <newbe5> and thats just working fine
[13:41] <thewanderer1> you can use /etc/hosts for static lookups instead of DNS
[13:42] <newbe5> ok well I might just add the important machines in therethen as they are on reservationa nd wont change
[13:42] <newbe5> thanks guys! :)
[13:42] <newbe5> so im hoping gngeo might run ow
[13:43] <newbe5> *now
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[13:46] <newbe5> ooor, maybe not
[13:46] <newbe5> lmao]
[13:46] <newbe5> ok, now to work this out :P
[13:47] <markedathome> newbe5: i take it you've seen that the neogeoX has been hacked already.
[13:48] <newbe5> no?
[13:48] <newbe5> this is my first day playing with the Pi, I've only managed to hit a few sites and learn a fewthings
[13:48] <newbe5> I searched for neogeo raspberry pi and found this gngeo thing
[13:48] <newbe5> so thats what im trying
[13:49] <Datalink> a lot of the base level is standard Linux, fortunately
[13:49] <newbe5> so I want to install this neogeoX thing?
[13:49] <newbe5> oh no, sorry
[13:49] <newbe5> just seen what it is :P
[13:49] <markedathome> er, no. NeoGeoX is handheld console just released http://hackaday.com/2012/12/30/breaking-the-new-neo-geo-handheld-wide-open/
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[13:50] <newbe5> Couldn't open /home/pi/gngeoBin/share/gngeo/gngeo_data.zip
[13:50] <newbe5> is what im getting now
[13:51] <newbe5> not sure why, the file is there :/
[13:51] * rymate1234 is going to get a fast 16GB SD card
[13:52] <markedathome> check the permissions
[13:52] <markedathome> ls -l /home/pi/gngeoBin/share/gngeo/gngeo_data.zip
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[13:53] <markedathome> if you are the pi user you shoud see -rw-r--r-- 1 pi pi 4428 Dec 29 00:11 gngneo_data.zip
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[13:55] <newbe5> ah yes
[13:55] <newbe5> it is a permission thing
[13:55] <newbe5> I just wiped out the whole folder and re-uploaded it vis FTP
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[13:55] <newbe5> *via
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[13:55] <newbe5> now I get permission denied running the binary
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[13:56] <markedathome> chmod +x binaryname
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[13:56] <newbe5> -rw------- 1 pi pi 4226346 Dec 31 12:54 gngeo
[13:56] <newbe5> -rwx--x--x 1 pi pi 4226346 Dec 31 12:54 gngeo
[13:56] <thewanderer1> newbe5, http://wiki.debian.org/Permissions a useful read
[13:57] <newbe5> ok thats that
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[13:57] <newbe5> thewanderer1: ah nice, thanks!
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[13:59] <newbe5> that did the trick
[13:59] <newbe5> got it running :)
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[14:09] <xrosnight> damn i am setting nginx on raspberrypi now.
[14:09] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: nice, works fast and sweet. What OS on the Pi?
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[14:09] <xrosnight> has anyone ever set nginx, mysql , php on raspberry pi?
[14:09] <xrosnight> archlinux :D TAFB_ssd
[14:09] <TAFB_ssd> I found under wheezy, Pancake out preformed Nginx, but on Arch, nginix was king
[14:10] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: nice!
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[14:10] <TAFB_ssd> I haven't done mysql yet, but nginx and php are easy :)
[14:10] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: so king means awesome
[14:10] <TAFB_ssd> yep
[14:10] <TAFB_ssd> are you going to be using vhosts/virtual hosts?
[14:11] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: now i met trouble . i cant get php interpretered.
[14:11] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: yeah. i am going ot.
[14:11] <xrosnight> but here. i use php-fpm and nginx. havne';t get the php helloworld page yet
[14:12] <xrosnight> do you know php-fpm?
[14:12] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: nice. that's the only problem I ran into with nginx, but works sweet. now! http://tafb.yi.org, http://www.hawthornevalleygolf.com and http://eddiemaundergolf.no-ip.info
[14:12] <TAFB_ssd> all go to my nginx box.
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[14:12] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: php-fpm is what I used, one second for walkthrough link.
[14:13] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: okay thank you. i am managing with them :D
[14:14] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: How to get php-fam workin with nginx, written by me so YMMV! http://pastie.org/pastes/5602119/text
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[14:22] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: you mean reboot???
[14:22] <xrosnight> you mean reboot your computer????
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[14:22] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: yep, gotta reboot your pi
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[14:22] <TAFB_ssd> i tried it 10 times, there must be some service it loads on reboot that's required for it to re-read your configuration file changes.
[14:23] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: damn all i miss is a reboot :(
[14:23] <TAFB_ssd> i know how much some people don't like to reboot
[14:23] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: me too :(
[14:23] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: if i don't need a reboot. i will never shutdown my pc :D
[14:24] <TAFB_ssd> me too :) i was going for the Windows 7 all time uptime record, but my machine finally blue screened, 38 days!
[14:24] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: by the way, what do you use for fastcgi_pass unix:/var/run/php-fpm/php-fpm.sock or just
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[14:25] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: 38 days impressive
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[14:25] <TAFB_ssd> yep, longest yet by me so far. I do a lot on this box though, video editing, photoshop, etc. so I don't fault it.
[14:26] <TAFB_ssd> can't remember on the fast_cgi setting I used
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[14:29] <TAFB_ssd> brb. home depot run...
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[14:34] <xrosnight> TAFB_afk: by the way, the words you mentioned "The configuration file is /etc/php/php-fpm.conf You must edit it, and under open_basedir add your path to website like /usr/share/nginx/html/ (don???t forget the trailing slash!), then reboot!" the file is /etc/php/php.ini let me check it out.
[14:34] <xrosnight> now my pi is rebooting
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[14:37] <ParkerR_> xrosnight, Umm there should be a /etc/php/php-fpm.conf
[14:38] <xrosnight> ParkerR_: yeah. there be.
[14:38] <xrosnight> TAFB_afk: still not work
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[14:46] <xrosnight> TAFB_afk: back ?
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[14:49] <ParkerR_> xrosnight, Look at his name
[14:49] <ParkerR_> AFK
[14:49] <ParkerR_> He'll cahnge it when he gets back
[14:49] <ParkerR_> *change
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[14:54] <plugwash> quick hint, if someone tells you "then reboot" in a tutorial for a linux system and it's not something kernel related then they are probablly a clueless newbie
[14:55] <xrosnight> plugwash: sort of ,haha
[14:57] * plugwash setup nginx with php5-fpm and doesn't recall having too many problems
[14:58] <plugwash> other than the fact that the tutorial I used was a little outdated and debian had switched php5-fpm to using a unix domain socket rather than an inet domain socket
[14:58] <xrosnight> plugwash: yeah.
[14:58] <xrosnight> that's also what i am going to use now
[14:59] <xrosnight> plugwash
[14:59] <plugwash> location ~ \.php$ {
[14:59] <plugwash> try_files $uri =404;
[14:59] <plugwash> fastcgi_split_path_info ^(.+\.php)(/.+)$;
[14:59] <plugwash> fastcgi_pass unix:/var/run/php5-fpm.sock;
[14:59] <plugwash> fastcgi_index index.php;
[14:59] <plugwash> include fastcgi_params;
[14:59] <plugwash> }
[14:59] <xrosnight> could you use pastebin.com
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[15:04] <xrosnight> plugwash: hey. does yours work?
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[15:04] <plugwash> yes though that config is not from a Pi, it's from a debian system
[15:04] <plugwash> what problem exactly are you having?
[15:05] <Gadgetoid> You there gordonDrogon?
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[15:07] <xrosnight> plugwash: <? echo "hello world"; ?> it's all blank
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[15:08] <Gadgetoid> Fingers crossed these LEDs go in the right way :D
[15:11] * plugwash tries to remember if he did anything else
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[15:12] <plugwash> where exactly did you put that block of text I posted?
[15:13] <plugwash> I think it has to go inside the server { } block
[15:13] <plugwash> also did you remember to restart nginx after changing it's configuration?
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[15:16] <plugwash> also check the unix socket path in the nginx config matches the one in /etc/php5/fpm/pool.d/www.conf
[15:21] <ManiacTwister> xrosnight, maybe shorttags are disabled in your php.ini. Try <?php instead of <?
[15:24] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: what on earth is going on with my green LEDs?
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[15:41] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, hello!
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, ah, using the ladderTest program and they're on?
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[15:53] <gordonDrogon> hm. it's all gorne quiet...
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[15:53] <xrosnight> plugwash: here is my nginx.conf http://pastebin.com/ati4XF26 here is my php-fpm.conf file http://pastebin.com/813zTcKg http://localhost/hi.php <? echo "helloworld" ; ?> show nothing in browser
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[15:54] <atouk> try <?php
[15:55] <xrosnight> atouk: doesnt' work
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[15:56] <xrosnight> atouk: not work
[15:57] <plugwash> I notice you don't seem to have "fastcgi_split_path_info ^(.+\.php)(/.+)$;" in your config
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[15:59] <plugwash> indeed your config looks VERY different from mine
[15:59] <xrosnight> plugwash: yeah. i don't have . so could you paste the entire full line somewhere i can check ?
[15:59] <xrosnight> plugwash: i am using Archlinux
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[16:00] <plugwash> http://pastebin.com/L7dYNir5 is my server block
[16:00] <xrosnight> plugwash: thanks i will check it
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[16:07] <atouk> sorry, costomer cam ine
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[16:07] <germann> hey guys, is there a super minimal debian base install for rpi? it seems weird I can do a deb base install on x86 in like 300 megs but I need 1.5GB of stuff like X on rpi
[16:08] <germann> using raspbian that is
[16:08] <TAFB_afk> germann: check out berryboot, lots of minimal installs on there.
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[16:08] <germann> thanks TAFB_afk, will do
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[16:09] <xrosnight> plugwash: it doesnt work still
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[16:09] <atouk> is there anything on the screen?
[16:10] <xrosnight> atouk: totallly blank on the browser
[16:10] <xrosnight> nothing happened and nothing wrong
[16:10] <atouk> check yoru server error log?
[16:11] <xrosnight> let me try
[16:11] <atouk> does the file have a php extension, or htm/html
[16:12] <xrosnight> it has. it's hi.php
[16:12] <xrosnight> and its content is <?php echo "hello world "; ?>
[16:13] <atouk> try something like 1, 2, 3, <?php echo '4'; ?>, 5, 6
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[16:13] <atouk> see if it is just not parsing the php
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[16:14] <rymate1234> are you using php / nginx?
[16:14] <xrosnight> rymate1234: yeah. php / nginx
[16:14] <rymate1234> I remember having similar problems (blank files rendering) on a server once
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[16:14] <rymate1234> No idea how I fixed it though, sorry :(
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[16:15] <xrosnight> rymate1234: . oh it's okay
[16:15] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: the green ones flicker, presumably the pin that button is hooked up to is used for something else?
[16:15] <xrosnight> i think there might be something wrong with php-fpm and nginx
[16:15] <atouk> running apache here, so my config files won't do you any good
[16:16] <atouk> uninstall php5 and reinstall and see if it reconfigures itself
[16:16] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: pastie (not pastebin) your is /etc/php/php-fpm.conf and your /etc/nginx/conf and I'll take a look
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[16:16] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: I see there's something in your blog comments regarding it, but my LEDs aren't always on; they flicker!
[16:17] <gordonDrogon> hi
[16:18] <gordonDrogon> ok. run the test - do all LEDS go on then off OK?
[16:19] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: i hve checked the error info. 2012/12/31 19:32:47 [error] 29025#0: *1 FastCGI sent in stderr: "Primary script unknown" while reading response header from upstream, client:, server: localhost, request: "GET /hello.php HTTP/1.1", upstream: "fastcgi://", host: "localhost"
[16:19] <xrosnight>
[16:19] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: ahh. I'm not using fast CGI afaik
[16:20] <Gadgetoid> yep gordonDrogon
[16:20] <gordonDrogon> ok.
[16:20] <gordonDrogon> check the ladderSetup.sh file.
[16:21] <gordonDrogon> button1,2,3,4 ought to be: 11,10,12,13
[16:21] <gordonDrogon> if they aren't, then change them.
[16:22] <Gadgetoid> Pretty sure the button works, too, which is highly perculiar.. it behaves as if there's either something causing that pin to float, or the button has a tempremental connection
[16:22] <Gadgetoid> But if I hold the button down, the LED will invariably stay on
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> do check the ladderTest.sh file though.
[16:22] <Gadgetoid> Will do
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[16:24] <gordonDrogon> and makes sure no spi/i2c modules loaded.
[16:24] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: here php-fpm.conf http://pastie.org/5602468 here nginx.conf http://pastie.org/5602475
[16:25] <Scuttle> uhm...I installed raspbian on my Pi, but I am having severe problems with my network card. It seems to completely die randomly. The switch I have it hooked up to doesn't even show the "active" leds
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[16:25] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: that php-fpm.conf file looks NOTHING like mine?!
[16:26] <Scuttle> would something like that be a hardware or software issue?
[16:27] <atouk> power supply
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[16:28] <Scuttle> alright... I bought a psu where I got the pi...but can I use any microusb-charger? Like one from a cellphone
[16:28] <atouk> if it can handle 700 ma
[16:28] <Scuttle> 5 volts, 2 amps
[16:28] <atouk> that should do it
[16:28] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: either that isn't the entire file, or your php conf file is very broke. I would remove it, RM the folder and re-pacman it.
[16:29] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: the php conf file should have a section called "open_basedir" and you have to set it to /usr/share/nginx/html (or wherever your HTML files will be stored).
[16:29] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, getting anywhere?
[16:29] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: you mean in the php.ini right??
[16:30] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: no
[16:30] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: starting to suspect it may be some bridged soldering on the header
[16:30] <TAFB_ssd> ... /etc/php/php-fpm.conf
[16:30] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: where?
[16:30] <TAFB_ssd> php.ini does nothin
[16:30] <Scuttle> nope...that didn't do anything...Switched psu, the NIC still dies...
[16:30] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: you mean add a line like that in php-fpm.conf
[16:30] <IT_Sean> Gadgetoid, you haven't been soldering directly to the GPIO header, have you!?
[16:30] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: no, it should already be in there.
[16:30] <Gadgetoid> IT_Sean: Haaaa, no
[16:31] <IT_Sean> ooohkay. good. :p
[16:31] <IT_Sean> I thought perhaps you'd Pulled A Daniel. :p
[16:31] <Scuttle> could I have gotten a bum card?
[16:31] <IT_Sean> whne you mentioned bridged soldering on the header
[16:32] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: here's my /etc/php/php-fpm.conf http://pastie.org/pastes/5602507/text
[16:33] <atouk> gordon, is that example board version specific?
[16:33] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: actually, ignore me, it IS php.ini :) lol
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[16:34] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: sorry, I had the wrong doc.
[16:34] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: i said..wow
[16:34] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: pastie your php.ini and I'll take a look.
[16:34] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: okay
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[16:35] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, ok, but there is a bug on the ladderSetup.sh file - do make sure it's fixed.
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[16:39] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Yeah the bug is fixed, I think the erratic behaviour can only be down to dodgy soldering
[16:43] <Gadgetoid> Or maybe not, pin 10s gonna do what pin 10s gonna do
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[16:46] <Scuttle> this is awesome... when I run apt-get update I apparently generate so much network traffic that my NIC just closes up and dies...
[16:47] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: am I right in thinking that the ladder board lets the pins connected to buttons float?
[16:47] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: damn it works ...
[16:47] <xrosnight> let me tell you how
[16:48] <Scuttle> powercycling doesn't even get the nic back up...
[16:48] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: NICE! great news
[16:48] <Scuttle> usb controller dead too...
[16:48] <Gadgetoid> Ah
[16:48] <TAFB_ssd> Scuttle: make sure you check your TP1-TP2 voltage, network traffic dropouts are 99% caused by low power (due to F3 polyfuse, crappy microUSB cable or crappy USB power supply).
[16:49] <TAFB_ssd> Scuttle: http://elinux.org/images/d/d1/RPI_Test_Points.JPG
[16:49] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: I beg forgiveness, I was looking at the wrong line of code in ladderSetup!
[16:50] <Gadgetoid> After manually enabling the pullup on pin 10, I had a bit of a facepalm moment
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[16:53] <netw1z> anyone running python has a cron job on there raspberry pi?
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[16:55] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: yeah. now http://xroslight.oicp.net:81 since they flirted my port 80
[16:56] <xrosnight> http://xroslight.oicp.net:81/hello.php
[16:56] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight! NICE WORK!!1 :)
[16:56] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: is that the newest kernel available for the Pi?
[16:57] * Gadgetoid needs the wrath of a million face palms
[16:57] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: yeah. the newest one :D
[16:57] <TAFB_ssd> pffft. I'm runnin 3.6.10-1 in my non-Pi box :)
[16:57] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: great.
[16:58] <megaproxy> who wants to be awesome and help me with this poem
[16:58] <megaproxy> (gf and my anniv)
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[16:58] <rymate1234> rpi firmware recently updated to 3.6
[16:58] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: my mirror says slightly newer version available for the Pi: http://mirror.archlinuxarm.org/arm/core/linux-raspberrypi-3.2.27-18-arm.pkg.tar.xz
[16:59] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, glad it's going!!
[17:00] <megaproxy> ssomeone halp D=
[17:00] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: can I load test your Pi? :)
[17:00] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: yeah. you can
[17:01] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: k. hold onto your hat, here goes...
[17:01] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: '
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[17:01] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: should i need a process to check out how the system is?
[17:01] <TAFB_ssd> not bad, 70 pages per second :)
[17:02] <TAFB_ssd> how much load it's under you mean?
[17:02] <TAFB_ssd> top can tell you cpu usage.
[17:02] <TAFB_ssd> k. load test stopped. 16885 pages served, 1807 returned as "server too busy"
[17:02] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: wait
[17:02] <xrosnight> let me upload a tool there then we can see it more easily
[17:03] <TAFB_ssd> k.
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[17:04] <Gadgetoid> Well to add to my day of rampant stupidity, I just accidentally "sudo shutdown -h" my laptop instead of my Pi...
[17:04] <TAFB_ssd> ROFL!!! :)
[17:04] <IT_Sean> LOL
[17:04] <IT_Sean> That's classic.
[17:04] <Gadgetoid> Then I picked up a leaky glade air freshener and my hands are probably going to smell for the next year
[17:04] <IT_Sean> That's alright. I almost did a sudo shutdwon on a mail server i was SSH'd to the other day, instead of my thinkpad.
[17:05] <Gadgetoid> But my Pi seems to be powered adequately by the Airport base station, which is nice
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[17:05] <Torikun> any owncloud users here
[17:06] <IT_Sean> Shutting my laptop down before going home at 5pm onna friday = good. Shutting down a mail server before going home at 5pm onna friday = VERRRY BAAAD
[17:06] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: http://ubispot.com:81/tz_e.php
[17:06] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: ohhhhhh nice
[17:07] <TAFB_ssd> want me to resume my load test, on html or php?
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[17:07] <TAFB_ssd> fire up top or something to keep an eye on cpu usage, your php page doesn't seem to be able to spit it out.
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[17:08] <Scuttle> tried with four different psus now..the pi hang in the same way...nic just disappears
[17:08] <Gadgetoid> That weird moment when you're tracing a network cable and find it goes into your TV??? yeah, it's definitely not 1980 anymore
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[17:08] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: yeah come on
[17:08] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: fire up!
[17:09] <TAFB_ssd> k. html load test started
[17:09] <TAFB_ssd> 50 pages per second, no refusals or errors yet.
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[17:14] <TAFB_ssd> 11,201 pages served, 3 errors, lookin GOOD! :)
[17:14] <TAFB_ssd> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-31-xroslight_load_test.png
[17:16] <Torikun> sup TAFB_ssd
[17:16] <TAFB_ssd> nuffin much Torikun, you? Any big new years plans?
[17:17] <Torikun> 46GB copied / 166GB from USB HD to PI -> NAS . Time about 24 hours
[17:17] <Torikun> na, you?
[17:17] <TAFB_ssd> not really, gonna try and get qmail workin :)
[17:17] <Torikun> lol
[17:17] <Torikun> i got owncloud setup last night then this morning it took over my httpdroot
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[17:19] <mumbles> ack out of solder to do my pi cobbler kit
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[17:20] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: great. sorry i wasn't here. i was writing the blog about how to set LNMP on Raspberry Pi :D
[17:21] <TAFB_ssd> no probs, nice work on gettin er workin :)
[17:22] <TAFB_ssd> what you need mysql for? gonna run drupal?
[17:23] <Torikun> lol
[17:23] <Torikun> so slow
[17:23] <TAFB_ssd> hehe
[17:23] <Torikun> Drupal keeps crapping out
[17:23] <TAFB_ssd> i really really wanna try it with my crazy cache technology :)
[17:23] <Torikun> TAFB_ssd: why IO so slow from USB HD connected to PI rsyncing over to NAS
[17:23] <TAFB_ssd> but I think wordpress is a better test, cause it's even more of a hog
[17:23] <Scuttle> ok...the testpoints says I have 4.91 volts, nic still dying...
[17:23] <|Jeroen|> put it on a ramdisk
[17:24] <Gadgetoid> Har, blue LEDs draw just enough power to crash the Pi hard running on a weedy power supply
[17:24] <pksato> Scuttle: only nic? and usb ports?
[17:24] <TAFB_ssd> |Jeroen|: i/o performance isn't the issue, it's CPU/php
[17:24] <Scuttle> pksato: usb ports too
[17:24] <|Jeroen|> ah
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[17:24] <Torikun> I want a Tardis case for the Pi
[17:24] <Torikun> that would be awesome
[17:25] <pksato> Scuttle: its is bad.
[17:25] <Scuttle> what is? the card?
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[17:28] <pecorade> Hi.
[17:28] <IT_Sean> o/
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[17:31] <Scuttle> so...who do I contact with regards to my defective board? rs-online? some raspberry-representative?
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[17:32] <xrosnight> what's your cache technology , TAFB_ssd
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[17:34] <IT_Sean> Scuttle, whomever you ordered it from.
[17:35] <Scuttle> btw...trying to upgrade the firmware, and it's been stuck for 10-15 minutes now...is that normal?
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[17:36] <rymate1234> Scuttle, No
[17:38] <Scuttle> tried using rpi-update, gets stuck at "Updating Firmware, this will take a few minutes"
[17:41] <|Jeroen|> doesn't it just download it to the sd ?
[17:41] <Scuttle> no clue
[17:41] <|Jeroen|> there is no flashing right?
[17:41] <rymate1234> it updates as well
[17:41] <|Jeroen|> thinks it just load them a boot not?
[17:41] <rymate1234> Scuttle, I think its an issue
[17:41] <rymate1234> with the updater
[17:42] <Scuttle> great..
[17:42] <rymate1234> I left it overnight and it didn't finish
[17:42] <Scuttle> flakey network card, broken update-software... :)
[17:42] <rymate1234> well
[17:42] <rymate1234> the rpi-update utility is provided by a 3rd party
[17:43] <Scuttle> ...and is the reccomended way to update if you read the RP website
[17:43] <rymate1234> ah
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[17:45] <|Jeroen|> why not download the firmware manualy and put it on the sd ?
[17:45] <|Jeroen|> its just 3 files
[17:45] <|Jeroen|> no need to flash or anything
[17:45] <Torikun> http://www.drobostore.com/store/drobo/en_US/pd/ThemeID.10946600/parentCategoryID.54837300/CategoryID.61243100/productID.260150400
[17:46] <Torikun> someone buy that for me
[17:46] <Scuttle> get the synology instead
[17:46] <Scuttle> on my third synology, ener failed me
[17:46] <Scuttle> never
[17:46] <Torikun> cchecks
[17:46] <|Jeroen|> https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot
[17:46] <Torikun> MyBook Live sucks
[17:47] <Torikun> that is what I have now
[17:47] <Torikun> I hate all of WD"s NAS products
[17:49] <Torikun> Home NAS is expensive
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[17:49] <Torikun> you will shell out aout $500
[17:49] <Scuttle> started with a synology 2-disk bay, then went to 4, now I have one with 8
[17:49] <Torikun> unless you go cheap with WD like me for about $200
[17:49] <Torikun> you have a lot of moeny for NAS lol
[17:50] <IT_Sean> whadda need NAS in your home for?
[17:50] <|Jeroen|> or build your own nas
[17:50] <Torikun> i was hoping the PI would be a good NAS solution
[17:50] <Scuttle> well, cheaper than paying for data recovery when your photos gets lost
[17:50] <IT_Sean> Fair point.
[17:51] <Torikun> and good for streaming media from NAS to TV
[17:51] <IT_Sean> Though, why not just get a router that supports the plugging in of a USB harddrive (most do these days).
[17:51] <Torikun> I should
[17:51] <Scuttle> well, I only use the NAS for backups... movies and stuff I keep on a separate fileserver
[17:51] <Torikun> I got Uverse
[17:51] <Torikun> and they give me G router
[17:51] <Torikun> they dont even support N
[17:51] <Torikun> lame
[17:51] <IT_Sean> you can plonk in a 2nd router, you know...
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[17:51] <Torikun> I know...
[17:52] <Torikun> no money
[17:52] <IT_Sean> job?
[17:52] <Torikun> eah
[17:52] <IT_Sean> usually, job = money
[17:52] <|Jeroen|> lol
[17:52] <Torikun> budget lol
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[17:52] <nid0> going back a little, another thumbs up for using a synology here
[17:52] <IT_Sean> perhaps it's time to /upgrade $job then
[17:52] <nid0> theyre excellent nas's
[17:52] <Torikun> haha
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[17:53] <Torikun> I wish
[17:53] <IT_Sean> try sudo apt-get install betterjob
[17:53] <IT_Sean> :p
[17:53] <Torikun> lol
[17:53] <Torikun> $1900 rent kills me lol
[17:53] <|Jeroen|> or apt-get job-update
[17:53] <IT_Sean> $1900 /mo rent!?
[17:53] <xzr> 1900 rent wtf
[17:53] <|Jeroen|> wow
[17:54] <IT_Sean> Where the hell to you live!?
[17:54] <xzr> you live in a fucking mansion?
[17:54] <nid0> upgrade to cheaper house?
[17:54] <Torikun> Bay Area
[17:54] <IT_Sean> xzr, LANGUAGE!
[17:54] <Torikun> 2 bedroom 2 bath apartment
[17:54] <xzr> how many sqm does that take
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[17:54] <xzr> sorry IT_Sean !
[17:54] <Torikun> 1050 square feet
[17:54] <xzr> comes from my back bone :<
[17:54] <xzr> ah well atleast it's big
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[17:54] <xzr> not too bad then I guess
[17:54] <IT_Sean> still... that's stupidly high!
[17:55] <Torikun> this is a good price actually
[17:55] <nid0> well, its not a good price if you cant afford it :P
[17:55] <Torikun> rent increases each year. Been here for 4 years..started out paying $1590
[17:55] <|Jeroen|> you can pay of 2 houses fot that money
[17:55] * IT_Sean is getting a single bdrm, slightly under 700 sq ft, for 680/mo after fees.
[17:55] <IT_Sean> that's in US $s, btw
[17:55] <Torikun> wow
[17:55] <IT_Sean> it's a really NICE one, too.
[17:55] <IT_Sean> in a nice area.
[17:56] <Scuttle> hm, anyone know if there is any linux-software to create information screens? Like the ones you see in malls and stuff...thought the Pi would be nice for that...
[17:56] <|Jeroen|> buy it
[17:56] <|Jeroen|> rent is lost money
[17:56] <Torikun> power point lol
[17:56] <IT_Sean> ^ wot 'e said
[17:56] <Scuttle> digital signs I think it's called...
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[17:56] <Torikun> they just use power point right
[17:56] <plugwash> |Jeroen|, but so is interest
[17:56] <Scuttle> nah
[17:56] <IT_Sean> sooo many of those signs are running some flavor of Win, and either PowerPoint or whatever OpenOffice's equiv is
[17:56] <nid0> Scuttle: there're a lot of ways of doing it, a suprisingly straightforward way though is just a fullscreen browser and webpage
[17:57] <IT_Sean> that too
[17:57] <IT_Sean> although, that requires IP connectivity
[17:57] <plugwash> so whether renting or buying on a mortgage means more "lost money" depends on the market in your area
[17:57] <nid0> friend of mine's using a couple of pi's to run a set of digital menus in a cafe that way
[17:57] <IT_Sean> SECURE IP connectivity, i might add.
[17:57] <Scuttle> nid0: yah, was thinking of something like that...
[17:58] <Torikun> anyone setup owncloud on arch
[17:58] <plugwash> IT_Sean, well if you are worried about someone hijacking the network ssl should keep the low level rif-raf out
[17:59] <nid0> nop, I did on raspbian no problem though
[17:59] <plugwash> and those who have the ability to extort a ssl key from a CA probablly have more lucrative things to do with it than mess with some digital signage
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[18:00] <IT_Sean> plugwash, you want to secure the heck out of those things. One person putting porn on it opens you (or whomever is displaying the sign) up to a massive lawsuit if it's in public.
[18:00] <nid0> why even involve a ca for your own digital signage connection, just self-sign it
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[18:02] <nid0> tbh, its easy to secure as long as you're not dumb, and ideally avoid wireless. I've seen digital signage before that just runs as a dlna dmr over wifi, get access to the network and you can push any media you want to it
[18:04] <Torikun> chttp://youtu.be/WTo5aTNgqmk
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[18:12] <Scuttle> there we go...killed the nic again
[18:14] <|Jeroen|> try a different switch
[18:15] <|Jeroen|> well im off to newyears party bye
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[18:23] <SuperMiguel> how do i auto start a program when my pi boots up (using arch)
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[18:26] <UnaClocker> Why Arch? Arch is for people that want to look cool because they know more about Linux than the simpler Debian distro.. If you don't know how to autostart something on bootup, maybe Debian would be better for you?
[18:26] <TAFB_ssd> SuperMiguel: If it's using systemd, you have to write a .service file and then use "systemctl enable yourfile.service" and it'll enable it on boot.
[18:26] <TAFB_ssd> google how to write a .server that depends on multi-user and it'll work great.
[18:27] <SuperMiguel> TAFB_ssd: i just want to start motion when i boot my pi
[18:28] <TAFB_ssd> SuperMiguel: hold on one sec for sample .service file
[18:28] <Phrewfuf> Bossa Nova Arm Chair
[18:28] <TAFB_ssd> SuperMiguel: here is my .service file: http://pastie.org/pastes/5602877/text
[18:29] <TAFB_ssd> that goes in the folder /usr/lib/systemd/system
[18:29] <TAFB_ssd> then you run "systemd enable yourfile.service"
[18:29] <TAFB_ssd> then when you reboot, it'll run that script
[18:31] <SuperMiguel> ohh there is a motion.service already there
[18:32] <SuperMiguel> systemd enable motion.service Excess arguments.
[18:32] <SuperMiguel> why excess arguments?
[18:32] <TAFB_ssd> if you open the .service file it'll probably tell ya
[18:32] <TAFB_ssd> you might need to specify ip address, etc.
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[18:33] <TAFB_ssd> I would make your own .service if you know the command to launch motion, would probably make it easier :)
[18:33] <TAFB_ssd> i'ma have a nap in prep for my newyears qmail party. ttyl
[18:33] <SuperMiguel> http://pastebin.com/CJ5aYSHC
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[18:33] <Torikun> lol
[18:33] <SuperMiguel> thats what this one says
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[18:35] <TAFB_nap> SuperMiguel: try "systemctl enable motion"
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[18:41] <xrosnight> TAFB_nap: you are having nap and typing :D hah
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[18:44] <{-0-}> Hi! readelf/cross-compiler question ... What option to the toolchain/toolchain target causes "Tag_DIV_use: Not allowed"? All my attempts lack this one line in the result
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[18:52] <xrosnight> sorry not know
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[18:52] <xrosnight> happy new year!
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[19:16] <PredaGR> hello wonderful Raspberrians! though I have a problem with udev, /lib/udev/write_net_rules does not create the files and so network interface names keep switching as they like
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[19:46] <Gadgetoid> Curious, I can't write to pin 2 from my Ruby wrapper
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[19:52] <pksato> pin 2?
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[20:18] <mumbles> is it worth me getting blutooth working ?
[20:19] <PredaGR> if you need it?
[20:19] <mumbles> for my rii mini keyboard
[20:20] <PredaGR> radio frequencies pollution aside, it is still a matter if you need it or not heh
[20:21] <mumbles> PredaGR: around here i dont think thats a problem
[20:21] <mumbles> what with all the keybord / mouse phones
[20:21] <mumbles> useing an old imac keybord thats far to big
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[20:22] <RandomFloat> hi all
[20:22] <mumbles> woah
[20:22] <mumbles> its good job we are uncaped
[20:22] <mumbles> 1960GB 145MB is how much the family have downloladed
[20:24] <RandomFloat> Can anyone help me, I got my raspi today and I was trying to connect it to my router through an ethernet cablr
[20:24] <RandomFloat> cable*
[20:26] <Torikun> what is the problem
[20:26] <Torikun> RandomFloat
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[20:30] <RandomFloat> if I do iwconfig it says that there is nothing
[20:30] <mumbles> woah upgrade is takeing forever
[20:30] <mumbles> RandomFloat: are the ligths lit ?
[20:30] <Hexxeh> can somebody with a spotify account test something for me?
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[20:30] <mumbles> link and 100m ?
[20:30] <Torikun> you do not ise iwconfig on ethernet
[20:30] <Torikun> only wifi
[20:30] <mumbles> ifocnifg
[20:30] <mumbles> ifconfig even ofr ethernet
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[20:31] <PredaGR> iwconfig is for wireless
[20:31] <mumbles> ifconfig /all
[20:31] <mumbles> its like ipconfig on windows
[20:32] <mumbles> RandomFloat: start accessories root terminal
[20:34] <PredaGR> I must connect my raspi at some monitor some day, thinking to make a new install
[20:35] <PredaGR> tried to create a new with deboostrap but got stuck at the firmware files
[20:35] <mumbles> PredaGR: i had to plug mine into the 32" tv before it started to work
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[20:36] <PredaGR> yes, first time I did connect to a tv, it was awesome, then just enable ssh and got it headless since
[20:36] <Hexxeh> somebody run this on a Pi running raspbian: sudo bash <(http://cl.ly/LsjL/install-respotify.sh)
[20:36] <Torikun> Nice
[20:36] <Hexxeh> and then tell me if /usr/bin/respotify launches properly
[20:36] <mumbles> mine is still upgrading
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[20:40] <FrankBlues> Hexxeh: Running now...
[20:40] <Hexxeh> FrankBlues: great, thanks!
[20:40] <mumbles_> FrankBlues: cool.
[20:40] <FrankBlues> At least, the script is, heh
[20:41] <mumbles_> actidentley quit irssi :(
[20:41] <Hexxeh> the despotify app I submitted to the Pi Store got broken after a few days because, thanks to some terrible timing, Spotify removed suport for the protocol version despotify implements and broke it
[20:41] <Hexxeh> i've been reversing their new API to rush a new client together but the dependencies are a bit of a pain so i'd like to check the installer works before i submit it (i've no Pi to hand)
[20:42] <FrankBlues> Well, I can tell the installer is doing some apt-get stuff
[20:42] <Hexxeh> yeah, it'll install cython and python2.7
[20:43] <Hexxeh> and then a bunch of python modules via pip
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[20:43] <FrankBlues> Processing triggers for python-support
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[20:44] <FrankBlues> Errors.
[20:44] <bcgrown> what's wrong with my GPIO code? i'm just following the example and i get a False returned regardless of what's on the pin. o_o http://codepad.org/rqSrRqQx
[20:44] <Hexxeh> FrankBlues: can I get a pastebin?
[20:45] <FrankBlues> Halfasec
[20:45] <Hexxeh> thanks!
[20:45] <FrankBlues> http://pastebin.com/WxRmhXn5
[20:46] <Hexxeh> ah, one moment :)
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[20:47] <pksato> bcgrown: physical pin is correct?
[20:48] <bcgrown> pksato: yes, according to this: http://elinux.org/File:GPIOs.png
[20:48] <mumbles_> who useses http://www.amazon.co.uk/Edimax-EW-7811UN-Wireless-802-11b-150Mbps/dp/B003MTTJOY/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1356983257&sr=8-2-fkmr0 on there raspberry pi ?
[20:48] <pksato> pin 24
[20:48] <gordonDrogon> that's an SPI pin. Do you have the spi driver loaded?
[20:49] <Hexxeh> FrankBlues: sudo bash <(http://cl.ly/LslZ/install-respotify.sh)
[20:49] <gordonDrogon> and are you running that script as root?
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[20:50] <FrankBlues> Standby
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[20:51] <FrankBlues> Still complains about pip and git
[20:51] <Hexxeh> hmm
[20:51] <Hexxeh> what does apt-cache search python-pip show?
[20:51] <Hexxeh> and which pip
[20:52] <bcgrown> pksato: yes, pin 24. gordonDrogon: yes, running with sudo
[20:52] <FrankBlues> python-pip - alternative Python package installer
[20:52] <FrankBlues> python-pipeline - iterator pipelines for Python
[20:52] <Hexxeh> which pip?
[20:53] <FrankBlues> Blank
[20:53] <Hexxeh> hmm
[20:53] <FrankBlues> Hrm... path issue?
[20:53] <Hexxeh> possibly
[20:53] <Hexxeh> spawn a new shell/
[20:53] <mumbles_> woah updateing takes forever .
[20:53] <FrankBlues> kk
[20:54] <FrankBlues> raspbian doesn't have locate by default... grr...
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[20:54] <Hexxeh> it should be /usr/bin/pip
[20:55] <FrankBlues> It's not.
[20:55] <Hexxeh> sudo apt-get install python-pip?
[20:56] <FrankBlues> In progress.
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[20:57] <FrankBlues> It's installing python2.6 as a dependency, btw
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[20:57] <FrankBlues> Now have python2.6, 2.7, and 3.2
[20:57] <aca20031> so im wondering..my rasperry pi is a samba server attached to an external 1tb harddrive. every hub on the network is 1gbps but transfers to/from this samba share max out at 4.5mps. same for sftp transfers - is this a known limitation of the pi's built in ethernet or is there somethign i can fix happening here
[20:57] <Hexxeh> gah. yeah, python-pip installs it for 2.6 and 2.7
[20:57] <Hexxeh> bit annoying
[20:59] <FrankBlues> My pi has a 16gb class 10, so space isn't an issue for me ATM...
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[20:59] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: i've tried it with non-SPI pins (23, 24) and it still doesn't work. i'm wondering if the numbering is messed up somewhere? because 25 gave me an invalid channel error
[21:01] <FrankBlues> Hexxeh: Almost there.
[21:02] <FrankBlues> Should I sudo apt-get install git as well?
[21:02] <Hexxeh> i wonder why the apt-get install -yqq python2.7 cython python-pip git in the script was failing?
[21:02] <pksato> bcgrown: no warning about pin in use?
[21:03] <bcgrown> pksato: i got a few of those too even though the pins weren't in use
[21:03] <pksato> I testing you code here, and get a warning.
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[21:03] <FrankBlues> Hexxeh, works as apt-get install -y (without qq)
[21:04] <pksato> bcgrown: modprobe -r joydev
[21:05] <xacobe97> happy year guys c:
[21:05] <bcgrown> pksato: nope. wasn't installed in the first place (didn't show up with an lsmod)
[21:05] <Hexxeh> FrankBlues: hmm, fair enough
[21:05] <Hexxeh> i'll change the script
[21:05] <IT_Sean> 'sit 2013 yet, for anyone in 'ere?
[21:05] <FrankBlues> kk
[21:06] <xacobe97> is 9:06 PM here
[21:06] <Hexxeh> FrankBlues: sudo bash <(http://cl.ly/LsNa/install-respotify.sh)
[21:06] <IT_Sean> so... that would be a no, then. Where is 'here'?
[21:06] <Hexxeh> should be rocking this time
[21:06] <Hexxeh> it's going to take a while to run, since it compiles gevent from source
[21:06] <xacobe97> spain
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[21:07] <IT_Sean> We need someone further east, then.
[21:07] <IT_Sean> :p
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[21:08] <FrankBlues> In progress...
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[21:10] <Hexxeh> FrankBlues: I've gotta dash off to a party now, can you drop me a PM with the results?
[21:10] <FrankBlues> Sure, no sweat.
[21:10] <FrankBlues> I'm gonna go grab some lunch myself...
[21:10] <Hexxeh> thanks!
[21:10] <FrankBlues> np
[21:10] <Hexxeh> happy new year all! :)
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[21:13] <bcgrown> aca20031: the pi's ethernet is a 100mbit connection on the shared USB bus. not going to be fast at all
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[21:16] <mumbles_> bcgrown: i dident know that
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[21:17] <bcgrown> mumbles_: "Why no Gigabit Ethernet? The Ethernet is driven via USB 2.0, so the upstream bandwidth would not support Gigabit."
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[21:19] <mumbles_> i oblessly dont read things probably
[21:19] <mumbles_> propably
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[21:19] <mumbles_> what, typos already? have onley had half a glass
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[21:22] <pksato> bcgrown: I thing, figure out gpio problem.
[21:22] <bcgrown> pksato: oh yeah?
[21:23] <bcgrown> pksato: I tried it with the "gpio" utility in WiringPi, still no joy
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[21:23] <pksato> bcgrown: GPIO.setmode(GPIO.BOARD) reflect physical pin number, not gpio.
[21:24] <pksato> to user gpio8, or pin 24, parameter on function musb be 24
[21:24] <bcgrown> pksato: ooohh. it's very confusing, given this: http://elinux.org/RPi_BCM2835_GPIOs
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[21:26] <pksato> GPIO.setmode(GPIO.BCM)
[21:26] <pksato> to gpio numbers.
[21:27] <bcgrown> pksato: yeah, you're right. i thought it was the other way around. doh
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[21:37] <Essobi> Happy New years eve.
[21:37] <bcgrown> pksato: know of any proper documentation of using the event detection? i can't find anything that isn't horribly out of date
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[21:38] <Cf54> Hello, I'm trying tu update my raspbian (sudo apt-get update) by SSH, but I have some errors: "Cannot initiate the connection to archive.raspberrypi.org:80", "Cannot initiate the connection to mirrordirector.raspbian.org:80", ..., W: Failed to fetch http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/dists/wheezy/Release.gpg Cannot initiate the connection to mirrordirector.raspbian.org:80 ( - connect (101: Network is unrea
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[21:39] <Cf54> Is there something special to do to connect the internet?
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[21:39] <clear`> Cf54: see if you can ping google
[21:40] <clear`> make sure you are connected to the net
[21:40] <{-0-}> Hi Folks - building my own CLFS toolchain, will this be Raspbian compatible? http://pastebin.com/v1VSdqCq
[21:40] <Cf54> clear: I chek
[21:40] <clear`> does it ping?
[21:40] <clear`> or are they dropped
[21:40] <Cf54> No, it doe'nt: connect: Network is unreachable
[21:41] <atouk> try ping
[21:41] <Cf54> (I should have thout about ping before, it'so simple)
[21:41] <weltall> cable is ok, using a router with dhcp?
[21:41] <Cf54> Same with
[21:42] <weltall> can ping inner network ip?
[21:42] <Cf54> I changed the connection config of the pi to be static instead od dhcp
[21:42] <weltall> checked your router allows that without config? mine doesn't and blocks internet
[21:44] <atouk> did you do it in interfaces?
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[21:44] <Cf54> I already made a static IP on a ubuntu computer, but with graphic tools. This time I done it with nano (ssh)
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[21:46] <Cf54> weltall: I tryed to ping my own computer, ping stated something, but it seams not responding, but I could have changed my windows parameter to not respond to pings.
[21:47] <atouk> did you change to static in /etc/network/interfaces?
[21:48] <Cf54> I can ping my router
[21:48] <clear`> you can ping the router in the pi?
[21:48] <atouk> wifi or wired?
[21:48] <Cf54> all wired
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[21:48] <atouk> do you have gateway and netmask defined?
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[21:49] <Cf54> Yes, I done it in /etc/network/interfaces
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[21:49] <tpidffmtts> hey i'd like to install weather-util version 1.5 instead of version 2 -- is this possible on the pi.. wheezy
[21:49] <weltall> check the data from ifconfig is correct
[21:49] <Cf54> No, I only defined the IP address
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[21:50] <Cf54> netmask and gateway are neaded?
[21:50] <atouk> gateway (or whatever router is)
[21:50] <atouk> netmask
[21:50] <Cf54> Oh, I try this
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[21:50] <atouk> and optionally dns-nameservers
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[21:54] <Cf54> Ping is betten now, but "Destination Host Unreachable" (I typed ping
[21:55] <Cf54> Perhabst the gateway
[21:55] <atouk> is your router ip?
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[21:56] <Cf54> It is what I tryed, but I do not know
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[21:57] <atouk> you said you could ping the router earler. shat ip did you use
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[21:59] <Cf54> I used the domain name (routername.lan), but that'ok I think, I have the parametters on my windows networks infomations
[21:59] <Cf54> 254 instead of 1
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[21:59] <atouk> if you ping it by name, it will show you the ip
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[22:03] <Cf54> Tha's Ok, google ping wors :)
[22:04] <Cf54> works*
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[22:04] <Cf54> And update too :)
[22:04] <Cf54> Thank you all for your help
[22:05] <atouk> then my work here is done. of to rescue another lonely drink
[22:06] <clear`> lol
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[22:23] <kyle__> Is there any work being done on getting a real X driver for the pi?
[22:25] <J_Rey> what do you mean specifically?
[22:26] <kyle__> J_Rey: Well, it's using a fbdev driver.
[22:26] <kyle__> J_Rey: So no xv ports, no render, no lots of things. And that uses loads of CPU.
[22:27] <J_Rey> okay and are you sure that's true for all RPi distros?
[22:27] <kyle__> J_Rey: Actually no, I'm not. I thought raspbian was considered the official?
[22:27] <Mikelevel> hi , i wrote hdmi_ignore_cec_init=1 in my config.txt , but when reboot change to hdmi channel
[22:28] <axion> yes it is. broadcom did not release an accelerated x driver.
[22:28] <J_Rey> oh ok, so now that the source for the board is released can/will there be one soonish?
[22:29] <kyle__> Did they release enough data for the X11 gurus to write one?
[22:29] <axion> they gave us some crap userland mappings to closed functions, but not much as to make an x driver.
[22:29] <kyle__> Damn.
[22:29] <kyle__> Enough of the GPU documented to just use that for 2d instead of just 3d?
[22:30] <J_Rey> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2221
[22:30] <axion> opengles is for accelerated graphics. it can do either
[22:31] <axion> EGL is what talks to the closed kernel driver
[22:32] <axion> opengles or openvg can talk to egl
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[22:32] <axion> you could write a program using vetor graphics i guess. i would use opengles though
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[22:34] <kyle__> Guess I have to read through those docs then. I'm confused.
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[22:35] <kyle__> So, from reading that, is it fair to say that standard X graphics are unacellerated, but anything in an OpenGL context is acellerated?
[22:35] <axion> kyle__: http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/RaspberryArch.jpg
[22:35] <markedathome> for a blast from the past has anyone gotten a wavefinder working with a pi?
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[22:51] <SpaceRocket> I can't find the specs on the web site
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[22:52] <markedathome> specs for what?
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[23:01] <netw1z> i should be getting ready to party but im coding awaaaay!
[23:02] <xzr> nerw
[23:02] <xzr> nerd
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[23:02] <netw1z> full nerd alert! still gonna bang a busty petitie tonight!
[23:02] <netw1z> not that that is a measure of humanity
[23:03] <xzr> pix
[23:04] <netw1z> or it didnt happen uh oh!
[23:05] <TAFB_ssd> was gonna bang a busty petitie the other day, found out she was alliance. HORDE FOR LIFE!
[23:06] <netw1z> gotta show her whose clan is boss
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[23:09] <markedathome> there can be only one!
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[23:13] <J_Rey> http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/quick-start-guide-v1.2.pdf
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[23:19] <Cf54> I'm running raspbian-pi on a 2 GB SD card, but I am unable to update firmware because disk is full. So 2 GB is not enough, and I should rather use at least 4 GB?
[23:21] <clear`> i use a 16gb, havent had storage problems, yet
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[23:23] <TAFB_ssd> Cf54: the minimum size os 4gb. 2gb is not enough. Do you have a USB stick or USB hard drive? You can use SD card just for boot, and put your operating system on USB!!
[23:24] <Cf54> Not to loose all the already done work, If I coppy the actuel 2GB to a nex SD card (whith dd), than use the config option to extant to full partition, does it seams right?
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[23:27] <clear`> do what TAFB_ssd said
[23:27] <clear`> thats my next project
[23:27] <clear`> well
[23:27] <clear`> maybe
[23:27] <TAFB_ssd> clear`: if you use a good USB stick, the performance increase is very nice :)
[23:27] <clear`> external hard drive
[23:28] <TAFB_ssd> Cf54: yep, you won't lose anything if you copy your files over, you just change the cmdline and fstab and you're done :)
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[23:29] <Cf54> TAFB_ssd: Thanks for the advive, I alredy have an operating sistem on my USB stick (and it is a slow stick ), but I think I'll beter take a better SD card (The 2 GB is a class 2 micro SD with addapter, so not the best think, but was the first available SD card I had)
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[23:30] <Cf54> I see how I can change the fstab, but not for cmdline
[23:31] <Cf54> (for fstab, I suppose I have to update the UUID of the flashdrive)
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[23:32] <TAFB_ssd> Cf54, the cmdline is in /boot no?
[23:33] <Cf54> TAFB_ssd: I do not know what is this "cmdline"
[23:35] <Cf54> I have a cdmline.text file in /boot
[23:37] <Cf54> It contain one line, but I do not fully understand it, I look on google
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[23:40] <TAFB_ssd> Cf54: that's the file :) see where it says something like root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 or whatever, you change it to say root=/dev/sdb1 or whatever your USB device gets called (double check the name when you are copying your files too it).
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[23:41] <Cf54> Ok, thanks, that's clear now :)
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[23:49] <RandomFloat> ok
[23:49] <RandomFloat> Sorry I was gone for a while
[23:49] <RandomFloat> What can I do about the ethernet cable thingy?
[23:49] <bs123> did you have to split
[23:49] <bs123> ..
[23:50] <clear`> what cable thingy
[23:51] <RandomFloat> my problem was: I put my ethernet cable inside the raspi but there is no connection
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[23:51] <RandomFloat> and router works well
[23:51] <TAFB_ssd> RandomFloat: do the lights come on? Have you checked your TP1-TP2 voltage? Do other USB devices work (keyboard, etc.).
[23:52] <clear`> tried another rj45 cable?
[23:52] <RandomFloat> everything works
[23:52] <RandomFloat> light goes on btw
[23:53] <TAFB_ssd> RandomFloat: is it getting an ip address? run: ip addr
[23:53] <TAFB_ssd> what do you get?
[23:53] <clear`> did you ever have internet connection with it? if so, what did you change
[23:54] <RandomFloat> I will as soon as I get home try it (new year is comming so can't try right now)
[23:54] <RandomFloat> no I haven't
[23:54] <RandomFloat> I just got my raspi today
[23:54] <RandomFloat> I looked inside resolv.conf
[23:54] <RandomFloat> and also the interfaces
[23:54] <clear`> what OS?
[23:55] <RandomFloat> wheezy
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[23:55] <clear`> well no need in trying to troubleshoot if you dont have access to it atm
[23:55] * darkbasic (~quassel@niko.linuxsystems.it) has joined #raspberrypi
[23:55] <RandomFloat> ok
[23:55] <RandomFloat> I come back later

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