#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-01-01

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

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[0:10] <RandomFloat> happy newyear :D
[0:10] <TAFB_ssd> 4 hours to go for me :)
[0:10] <clear`> 6 for me
[0:11] <clear`> no plans tho
[0:11] <clear`> busy work week
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[0:20] <RandomFloat> aww
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[0:25] <AceDecade> hey all, quick question
[0:25] <AceDecade> how hard would it be to output audio through both HDMI and analog?
[0:27] <mythos> AceDecade, easy, if you use something like pulseaudio
[0:27] <mythos> with pure alsa: i have no idea
[0:28] <AceDecade> if im spoofing airplay speakers, will pulseaudio still work? or would i have to configure shairplay to use pulseaudio?
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[0:28] <mythos> AceDecade, oh, i forgot: i don't know if the driver supports to activate both at the same time
[0:28] <Hopsy> Happy new year from Holland!
[0:29] <frikinz> Happy new year from France!
[0:29] <AceDecade> this is an oddly ungoogle-able problem =(
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[0:32] <mythos> AceDecade, easy.
[0:32] <mythos> AceDecade, http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Sound
[0:33] <mythos> only one at the time is possible
[0:33] <mythos> as far as i see
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[0:34] <mythos> AceDecade, but the analog out is crappy anyways
[0:34] <AceDecade> pulseaudio seems to support multiple, im trying to set that up
[0:34] <mythos> you want to use a usb-audiodevice instead
[0:34] <mythos> *an
[0:34] <AceDecade> well my final setup back at my apartment will have audio over HDMI to monitor, and then from the monitor to speakers and bass
[0:35] <mythos> AceDecade, yeah, pa supports more than one. but not the driver
[0:35] <AceDecade> would a usb device for speakers be preferable to this setup?
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[0:35] <AceDecade> also noted =\
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[0:36] <mythos> AceDecade, afaik your final setup has only one output. why do you want two anyways?
[0:36] <AceDecade> well for now i have hdmi to tv to speakers, and i wanted analog to subwoofer
[0:36] <AceDecade> but its temporary, im leaving in a few days
[0:37] <mythos> and if hdmi serves you fine, you don't have to use a usb-audiocard
[0:37] <mythos> AceDecade, that would not work
[0:37] <AceDecade> yeah i got that
[0:37] <ambro718> I have a hardware device with switches, and I need to simulate pressing those switches from my RPi. What's be best way to do that?
[0:37] <AceDecade> my final setup plan was to use HDMI to get to the monitor, then use aux from the monitor's output to feed to speakers and subwoofer
[0:37] <mythos> have you ever heard the analog audio out? it is really horrible ;)
[0:38] <ambro718> s/switches/buttons/
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[0:38] <AceDecade> mythos: is that the raspberry pi's fault or just analog quality in general?
[0:38] <mythos> AceDecade, it is the chip
[0:38] <AceDecade> ahh, so monitor analog out to speaker will be fine?
[0:38] <mythos> nono... use digital
[0:39] <mythos> the analog out is crap
[0:39] <mythos> or a usb-soundcard
[0:39] <mythos> *an
[0:40] <mythos> .o(*sigh... stupid "selbstlaut"... i always type it wrong)
[0:40] <Toothpick> TomWij: ping?
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[0:42] <mythos> <AceDecade> ahh, so monitor analog out to speaker will be fine? <-- oh sorry.. "monitor analog out"... i thought, you use pulseaudio terms.... so, yes. if you use your tv to serve your speakersystem, it should work fine
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[0:45] <AceDecade> alright fantastic
[0:45] <AceDecade> thanks
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[0:47] <Gadgetoid> We're drawing close to another arbitrary digit increase, AMAGAD!
[0:47] <mythos> i have it already behind me
[0:47] <Gadgetoid> Well done world. We've survived another year without nuking ourselves!
[0:48] <mythos> .o(stupid people with those fireworks)
[0:48] <sundancer> its ridiculous how nations are lagged this way
[0:49] -mquin- [Global Notice] As we are approaching midnight fST (UTC), we'd like again to wish you all a happy new year 2013 and invite you to join us in #freenode-newyears
[0:49] <Gadgetoid> We should all synchronise time, and half the world should just deal with working at midnight and sleeping during the day
[0:49] <IT_Sean> SHHH!
[0:49] <IT_Sean> That is a horrible idea
[0:50] <mythos> since einstein we know, that there is no such thing as a "global time"
[0:50] * dreamon__ is now known as dreamon
[0:50] <mythos> s/as/like/
[0:50] <FrankBlues> Swatch tried to do that once with it's "beat time", it never caught on.
[0:52] <TAFB_ssd> fyi, big package update for Arch just hit, pacman -Syu to update.
[0:56] * Leeky is now known as Leeky_afk
[0:57] <TAFB_ssd> woot, version 3.6.11-0-ARCH! http://tafb.yi.org
[0:58] <TAFB_ssd> massive update for the rPi too: linux-raspberrypi-3.6.11-2-arm.pkg.tar.xz
[0:59] <Gadgetoid> 50 seconds??? no wait, less than that now
[0:59] <Gadgetoid> A number is going to increment, people!
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[1:02] <ryushe> for those of you using the Pi as a media center, what do you prefer: XBian, OpenELEC, or Raspbmc?
[1:05] <lee> happy new year
[1:05] <ryushe> same to you, good sir
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[1:06] <Amadiro> ryushe, openelec was significantly more stable than raspbmc for me
[1:07] <ryushe> heh, good to know
[1:07] <Amadiro> ryushe, although it is slightly slower. DarkELEC tries to fix some of the problems openelec has, so you could try that
[1:07] <ryushe> We'll give that one a shot then
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[1:07] <ryushe> just got my rev2 board in today
[1:07] <Amadiro> Stay clear from xbian, I've only heard bad things about it.
[1:07] <ryushe> or whatever the one is with 512mb
[1:09] <sundancer> i have gertboard hooked to rpi. what do i need to do in order to use only one power supply adapter from mains to 5V DC ?
[1:10] <sundancer> i need 5V for gertboard ULN2803
[1:10] <sundancer> and now i have two power supplies.. i would like to reduce that to one :)
[1:11] <FrankBlues> Anyone successfully compiled the old xmms on rpi?
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[1:11] <ryushe> excellent question. I miss it
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[1:12] <FrankBlues> I'm trying on raspbian, but I'm stymied by "configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***"
[1:13] <sundancer> i will ask some other time
[1:13] <FrankBlues> Wheezy has libglib2.0-dev available, hoped that would work, it doesn't.
[1:13] <sundancer> good night all :) happy ny!
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[1:14] <frikinz> FrankBlues: libglib2.0-0 ?
[1:15] <frikinz> ah configure. ok forget it
[1:15] <FrankBlues> I would think that 2.0 >= 1.2.2...
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[1:16] * Zarek_ is now known as Zarek
[1:17] <pksato> FrankBlues: Its near to impossible do compile xmms on actual linux distros.
[1:17] <frikinz> I suspect you need libglib1.2 which was removed
[1:17] <frikinz> its possible, i did it
[1:17] <frikinz> just fetch from debian archives
[1:18] <Foxhoundz> Guys
[1:18] <Foxhoundz> I need some advice
[1:18] <pksato> need to compile old gtk1.2
[1:18] <pksato> and others.
[1:18] <Foxhoundz> I'm planning to write a small script to collect data over the period of months/years
[1:18] <Foxhoundz> and I'm looking for a battery to power it
[1:18] <FrankBlues> frikinz- It's compiled for armhf, or will I need to do it from source?
[1:18] <Foxhoundz> Any suggestions?
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[1:19] <frikinz> FrankBlues: I did it from source
[1:19] <frikinz> FrankBlues: a long time ago though, can't remember but it is not direct, a few things to tweak
[1:20] <FrankBlues> Well, the other option is to find a lightweight music player that works well on the pi...
[1:21] <Zarek_> i've heard cmus works well
[1:22] <FrankBlues> Zarek_: Thanks, I'll give it a shot...
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[1:23] <ambro718> is it okay to redistribute a modified rapsbian image?
[1:24] <Zarek_> ambro718: yep!
[1:24] <ambro718> cook then!
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[1:24] <ambro718> s/k/l/
[1:25] <frikinz> well, I guess there are some contraints still?
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[1:32] <jacekowski> no
[1:33] <jacekowski> there may be some brand issues
[1:33] <jacekowski> like with fireshi
[1:33] <jacekowski> (that's why it's called iceweasel on debian)
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[1:44] <gordonDrogon> Happy New Year, everyone who's still here!
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[1:46] <biberao> hi
[1:46] <biberao> whos running android on raspberry
[1:46] <biberao> i cant get android 4.0.3
[1:46] <biberao> for it
[1:46] <biberao> anyone?
[1:47] <TAFB_ssd> i don't think android is supported on the rPi
[1:47] <biberao> like
[1:47] <biberao> on the site of the projects says its works nice
[1:48] <biberao> but i cant find a copy
[1:48] <TAFB_ssd> link?
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[1:48] <biberao> Official Android 4.0.3 (built by Broadcom): Boots, very fast with hardware acceleration, lacks AudioFlinger support.
[1:48] <biberao> More info: Broadcom Announcement
[1:48] <biberao> http://androidpi.wikia.com/wiki/Android_Pi_Wiki
[1:48] <TAFB_ssd> did you ask in #razdroid ?
[1:49] <biberao> ya
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[1:56] <TAFB_ssd> biberao: checked all my sources, no hardware accellerated version of Andrioid leaked for use yet.
[1:56] <biberao> they havent released
[1:56] <biberao> it seems
[1:56] <rymate1234> guys
[1:57] <rymate1234> terrible problem with my pi
[1:57] <rymate1234> doesn't boot
[1:57] <mythos> oh my gaaahd
[1:57] <rymate1234> does not get past the gpu splash
[1:58] <rymate1234> huh
[1:58] <rymate1234> risc os works
[1:58] <pksato> rymate1234: psu, sd, lots of usb devices, etc...
[1:58] * mythos runs screaming through channel
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[1:59] <rymate1234> my main SD card gets to the gpu splash
[1:59] <rymate1234> and stays there
[1:59] <rymate1234> nothing else happens
[1:59] <TAFB_ssd> oh bummer
[1:59] <TAFB_ssd> the coloured rainbow?
[1:59] <rymate1234> yus
[2:00] <TAFB_ssd> i've always wanted to see that screen, my TV never wakes up fast enough
[2:00] <mythos> that lucky bastard ;)
[2:01] <TAFB_ssd> hey pksato, you running Arch?
[2:02] <pksato> no
[2:02] <pksato> I very dumb to learn another distro. :)
[2:02] <rymate1234> ok
[2:02] <rymate1234> changed some settings
[2:02] <rymate1234> seriously worried now
[2:03] <rymate1234> the rainbow gpu spa
[2:03] <rymate1234> *splash
[2:03] <rymate1234> is a graddient from blue to black
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[2:03] <pksato> TAFB_ssd: remame kernel.img (or config.txt), and boot. And you see rainbow.
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[2:03] <rymate1234> meh
[2:04] <rymate1234> its 1am
[2:04] <rymate1234> I'm tired
[2:04] <rymate1234> off to sleep bai
[2:04] <TAFB_ssd> pksato: lol
[2:06] <rymate1234> ok
[2:06] <pksato> and blink act led 7 or 6 times over and over.
[2:06] <rymate1234> risc os boots
[2:07] <rymate1234> linux doesn't
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[2:07] <rymate1234> this leads me to believe that I have somehow messed up the kernel
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[2:11] <ParkerR_> _If_ my TV supoorts CEC and XBMC loads the libcec library, should it just work?
[2:13] <biberao> back
[2:13] <biberao> my android 2.3 on pi
[2:13] <biberao> stays blank
[2:13] <biberao> |:
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[2:21] <Macer> heh
[2:22] <Macer> http://pastebin.com/m4KFVm4G
[2:22] <Macer> efnet was totally destoryed today with that
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[2:31] <ambro718> is read-only boot supported on raspbian?
[2:31] <Nahledge> I get a black screen when. Exit omxplayer (-r argument invoked). Does anyone know why this happens. I can ctrl+alt+f1 to shutdown but thats inconvienent, i also am running omxplayer from lxde.
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[2:39] <ParkerR_> Woo http://withg.org/parkerlreed/edid.txt
[2:39] <ParkerR_> New TV
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[2:57] <TAFB_ssd> ParkerR_: you get a new tv, and instead of a pic, we get a .txt file? lol
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[2:57] <ParkerR_> :P
[2:58] <ParkerR_> In this case just as good :P
[2:58] <ParkerR_> :D
[2:58] <ParkerR_> Hooray for finally having an option to turn overscan off
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[3:03] <dr_willis> noticed that feature a lot on newer tvs
[3:03] <dr_willis> Guess the whole PC monitor Vs TV differances are slowly fadeing out
[3:04] <Crenn-NAS> Belated happy new year
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[3:06] <TAFB_ssd> Crenn-NAS: 3 hours to go for me :)
[3:07] <Crenn-NAS> TAFB_ssd: It was 13 hours ago for me!
[3:07] <TAFB_ssd> nice :)
[3:07] <Crenn-NAS> Got home at around 2:30AM xP
[3:07] <ParkerR_> Haha
[3:07] <ParkerR_> Still 9:07PM Dec 31 here
[3:08] <Crenn-NAS> I'M FROM THE FUTURE!
[3:08] <TAFB_ssd> just bought this laptop on the new years eve 3 hour sale! http://www.futureshop.ca/en-CA/product/lenovo-lenovo-ideapad-15-6-laptop-grey-intel-core-i5-3210m-750gb-hdd-6gb-ram-english-refurbished-p580/10232141.aspx?path=769a93c548bc75dca2b17ed2150858d4en02
[3:08] <ParkerR_> DUDE
[3:08] <TAFB_ssd> nice i5, 6gb, 750gb, USB3, Intel 4000, monster 4,400mah battery, should be good
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[3:09] <Crenn-NAS> How thin?
[3:09] <TAFB_ssd> The laptop? not thin ;)
[3:09] <TAFB_ssd> 3.6cm thick when closed.
[3:10] <Crenn-NAS> I have an ultrabook, very nice, works well enough
[3:10] <Zarek_> man, i need to get a decent laptop :P
[3:10] <TAFB_ssd> I just hope this one comes with a US keyboard, specs say it does, but I don't trust them :(
[3:11] <Crenn-NAS> Zarek_: I lasted on an atom laptop for 2 years, it's not too bad a laptop ;P
[3:12] * Zarek_ sits in her corner with a single core Celeron
[3:12] <Zarek_> this is my main work machine
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[3:13] <Crenn-NAS> Zarek_: Save up slowly and get a dual core AMD APU?
[3:13] <TAFB_ssd> should run some benchmarks, see what's better, the atom or the celeron!
[3:13] <Crenn-NAS> It's my main machine
[3:14] <Zarek_> http://puu.sh/1HRUt eugh
[3:14] <Zarek_> Crenn-NAS: no job, no money :P
[3:14] <Crenn-NAS> Zarek_: Same here now :(
[3:14] <TAFB_ssd> where you live Zarek?
[3:14] <Zarek_> Auckland, New Zealand
[3:15] <TAFB_ssd> oh, lol
[3:15] <Zarek_> shitty country with shitty internet speeds
[3:15] <TAFB_ssd> Zarek_: how can it have crappy internet if mr. Megaupload lives there?
[3:15] <Zarek_> and there's no ebay here and the main auction site that runs here (TradeMe) has no classic macs :c
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[3:16] <Zarek_> TAFB_ssd: because he paid for fiber to his house
[3:16] <Zarek_> :P
[3:16] <chithead> his servers were running elsewhere, that it why it could be seized by us government
[3:16] <Zarek_> yeah
[3:16] <Zarek_> servers were all in Hong Kong i think
[3:16] <TAFB_ssd> Zarek_: ahhh. always wondered how he kicked my butt in counterstrike all the time, freakin 7ms ping time he had!
[3:16] <Zarek_> hahaha
[3:16] <Zarek_> yep yep
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[3:16] <Zarek_> man i wish i had that lol
[3:16] <Crenn-NAS> Zarek_: I live just over the sea ;P
[3:17] <Zarek_> Crenn-NAS: ah, cool :P
[3:17] <TAFB_ssd> Zarek, how hard is it for you to get to Austrailia? How's the shipping from AUS to NZ?
[3:18] <ParkerR_> TAFB_ssd, http://i.minus.com/i7AYZWu994cEb.JPG
[3:18] <Zarek_> shipping from AUS to NZ isn't terribly bad. i can't get there myself though, plane tickets are expensive
[3:18] <ParkerR_> Full 1080p
[3:18] <TAFB_ssd> ParkerR_: nice. I got a few insignia tv's too, love em.
[3:18] <TAFB_ssd> ParkerR_: now you just need a better camera ;)
[3:18] <ParkerR_> :P
[3:18] <TAFB_ssd> Zarek_: but it looks so close! like you could take a boat over ;)
[3:19] <Zarek_> it's a three hour flight
[3:19] <TAFB_ssd> wow
[3:19] <TAFB_ssd> lol
[3:19] <TAFB_ssd> my cousin is over visiting right now, she runs an electronic shop in AUS. I have a spare box here you can have. I'll see if she's willing to take it back with her :)
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[3:20] <Zarek_> c:
[3:20] <Zarek_> that'd be cool
[3:21] <Crenn-NAS> TAFB_ssd: What electronic shop?
[3:21] <Zarek_> where in AUS is she?
[3:21] <TAFB_ssd> it's got a really stupid name like super crazy cheap shop or something, let me text her and find out.
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[3:24] <TAFB_ssd> it's called "crazysales", in Springvale, VIC.
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[3:26] <ParkerR_> TAFB_ssd, Was $161
[3:26] <ParkerR_> Cant complain
[3:26] <TAFB_ssd> Nice! I got a 40" 1080p for $299 here, was super happy :)
[3:27] <ParkerR_> TAFB_ssd, Oh 26" if you were wondering :P
[3:28] <TAFB_ssd> 26" is nice for 1080p, very crisp :) how you like it so far? run anything with a gui on it yet? lol
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[3:29] <ParkerR_> Winndows and Raspberry Pi :)
[3:29] <TAFB_ssd> nice :)
[3:29] <TAFB_ssd> Did you have to type Winndows cause the real word = instant kick/ban in here?? :)
[3:29] <ParkerR_> Haha
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[3:30] <TAFB_ssd> ;)
[3:31] <Crenn-NAS> I'm mainly using Windows in here, except on my server ;P
[3:32] <TAFB_ssd> me too. I go a lot of video editing, photoshop, etc. I'd be so lost with linux :)
[3:32] <Crenn-NAS> lol
[3:33] <Crenn-NAS> I wouldn't be too much... unless I had to use the GUI ;P
[3:34] <TAFB_ssd> any Arch peeps in here?
[3:37] <Zarek_> yep
[3:39] <TAFB_ssd> did you see all the updates pushed out today? new kernel too :)
[3:39] <TAFB_ssd> http://pastie.org/pastes/5603951/text
[3:39] <TAFB_ssd> For the Pi: linux-raspberrypi-3.6.11-2-arm.pkg.tar.xz
[3:40] <TAFB_ssd> for other Arm's: linux-kirkwood-3.6.11-0-arm.pkg.tar.xz
[3:40] <Zarek_> yep, i already updated c:
[3:40] <TAFB_ssd> nice :)
[3:40] <TAFB_ssd> i get e-mail notifications whenever anything is updated in the repo :)
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[3:47] <rikkib> Hmmm had to put sunglasses on the web cam to see outside (Dark filter) http://www.bencom.co.nz/cam/
[3:47] <TAFB_ssd> need a WDR camera :)
[3:48] <TAFB_ssd> what's the number in the top right?
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[3:49] <rikkib> Number of pixel change
[3:49] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh
[3:49] <rikkib> cam looking at my tri band yagi TH6DX
[3:49] <TAFB_ssd> what's it antenna for?
[3:50] <rikkib> 20 15 & 10 meter amatuer bands
[3:50] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh, nice :)
[3:50] <TAFB_ssd> is there restrictions on how much transmit power you are allowed?
[3:50] <rikkib> Work the world on 500 watts :)
[3:51] <TAFB_ssd> 500? wow. I think here it's limited to 3!
[3:51] <rikkib> 1000 watts pep
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[3:51] <rikkib> My amp will do about 600 to 700 watts depending on band
[3:52] <rikkib> 2K watts input power if you like big numbers
[3:52] <rikkib> Warms up the shack quite nicely thankyou
[3:53] <Nahledge> Whats the benefit of arch over raspbian or vise versa ?
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[3:58] <dr_willis> #1 i see.. if you know arch. :) and dont know debian.
[3:59] <dr_willis> I dont know arch very well (used it years ago) so i stick to Raspbian.
[3:59] <clear`> well i never used arch or debian...
[3:59] <dr_willis> If you dont know arch. well.. its going to take some reading.
[3:59] <clear`> lol
[3:59] <clear`> it all takes reading and asking stupid questions!
[3:59] <dr_willis> Debian/ubuntu/other variants are close enough to raspbian
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[4:00] <clear`> yea i run xubuntu so debian was my first choice
[4:00] <dr_willis> May as well stick to raspbian then. :) its close to Lubuntu
[4:02] <clear`> i need to setup my desktop as a media server now
[4:03] <dr_willis> been using xbian as a HTPC for the wife.. it was working well for 3 days.. then crashed and had a filesystem error...
[4:03] <dr_willis> luckly i could just pop in a new SDHC for her.
[4:03] <dr_willis> Be really nice if the thing could auto sync to dropbox or ubuntu one or somthing, to keep her playlists and other settings
[4:04] <dr_willis> She finds setting up playslists on xbmc a little anoying
[4:04] <clear`> install pandora in xbmc
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[4:04] <clear`> well the script
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[4:09] <jus10> well mrtg is now running nicely. munin was prettier but caused a hicup every 5 minutes when it fired off a polling operation
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[4:21] <Macer> nokia needs to bring back the n900
[4:21] <Macer> :(
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[4:22] <nerxgas> hi
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[4:23] <TAFB_ssd> hi
[4:23] <nerxgas> i got 4 raspberry pis
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[4:25] <TAFB_ssd> congrats
[4:25] <TAFB_ssd> do any of them work?
[4:26] <nerxgas> yes
[4:26] <TAFB_ssd> sweet
[4:26] <nerxgas> raspbmc works nicely, and raspbian, i need to try ics next
[4:27] <nerxgas> does sound work in ics yet?
[4:27] <TAFB_ssd> didn't try ICS because of no GPU accelleration makes it run super super slow
[4:27] <nerxgas> ah, will there be gpu acceleration in the future?
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[4:29] <Macer> nerxgas: openelec was the most stable
[4:29] <Macer> of the xbmc flavors for me
[4:30] <nerxgas> thanks, i'll look into that
[4:30] <Macer> also might want to look into an ir receiver for the gpio
[4:31] <Macer> http://lasziv.reprehensible.net/~macer/
[4:31] <Macer> thats what i did to mine. i hate dongles
[4:31] <Macer> the mce usb dongle i had was as big as the pi with a 30 ft cable
[4:32] <TAFB_ssd> I like my usb wifi dongle :) http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-09-RaspberryPi_is_finished.jpg
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[4:35] <jus10> The performance improvements since moving the kernel to 3.6 are rather astounding
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[5:14] <dr_willis> Hmm. Couldent get wifi configured with openelec. trying the latest xbian release now.
[5:14] <biberao> dr_willis: i got mine working
[5:15] <dr_willis> I got the same usb dongle working in xbian. but it just never worked in openelec. same settings and stuff..
[5:15] <dr_willis> so ill stick to xbian for now. ;)
[5:15] <biberao> i made it working
[5:15] <biberao> with static ip
[5:16] <dr_willis> i even tried that.
[5:16] <dr_willis> wonder if not all wifi drivers are in openelec.
[5:18] <biberao> it worked with me
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[5:36] <Torikun> yo
[5:36] <TAFB_ssd> hey Torikun :) you run Arch?
[5:37] <Torikun> yes
[5:37] <TAFB_ssd> did you see the big big update package pushed out today? New Kernel too :)
[5:37] <Torikun> no why
[5:37] <TAFB_ssd> http://pastie.org/pastes/5603951/text
[5:37] <TAFB_ssd> new kernel for the pi: linux-raspberrypi-3.6.11-2-arm.pkg.tar.xz
[5:37] <TAFB_ssd> do pacman -Syu asap :)
[5:37] <Torikun> whasts new
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[5:38] <TAFB_ssd> didn't read up on it.
[5:38] <TAFB_ssd> 10 packages updated since yesturday
[5:38] <TAFB_ssd> I'm runnin the new one: http://tafb.yi.org/
[5:38] <Torikun> i am scared to reboot
[5:38] <Torikun> lol
[5:39] <TAFB_ssd> lol!
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[5:39] <Torikun> its my dns lok
[5:39] <atouk> <arnold_voice>Do it! Do it now!</arnold_voice>
[5:40] <Torikun> lol
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[5:40] <mdszy> For science!
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[5:40] <Torikun> i wish ssh on andrpoid was better cant bring up another terminal
[5:41] <dr_willis> what ssh client you using on android?
[5:41] <Torikun> connectbot
[5:41] <Torikun> to my pi running irsi
[5:42] <dr_willis> had too many issues with connectbot. been using 'server auditor' lately
[5:42] <dr_willis> i also set up znc on the pi :) so i can use it as a ssh bouncer.
[5:42] <Torikun> does it have alt key
[5:42] <dr_willis> irc bouncer.. ;)
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[5:42] <dr_willis> server auditor has some extra featuures for the special keys.
[5:43] <Torikun> if it can port forward and handle ssh keys im in
[5:43] <dr_willis> and you could use any of the various keyboards out there for special keys
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[5:43] <dr_willis> I dont think it can port forward. yet.
[5:43] <Torikun> oh i like that about this one
[5:43] <dr_willis> but you could use connectbot for port forawrding, then the other for the actual terminal
[5:43] <Torikun> ah is it free
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[5:44] <Torikun> installing now
[5:44] <dr_willis> its a little quirky. but i had way too many issues with connectbot and the clones of it.. (and the rip-off-same-named connectbot-malware-wannabes)
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[5:45] <dr_willis> you can shake the phone to do a ctrl-c :) i recall
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[5:53] <Torikun> eow this ssh rocks
[5:53] <Torikun> i just hate colors and font
[5:54] <Torikun> hopefuilly can change
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[5:55] <Torikun> k good now ty dr
[5:57] <biberao> dr_willis: i also fixed
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[5:57] <biberao> the problem i had with output stuff when playing a movie on omxplayer
[5:57] <Torikun> and screen works grest
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[5:58] <biberao> dr_willis: you use connectbot with pi?
[5:59] <Torikun> i do
[6:00] <Torikun> now i can get update tafb
[6:00] <biberao> what can you do with it
[6:00] <biberao> ?
[6:00] <Torikun> lol
[6:00] <Torikun> just ssh
[6:00] <biberao> something useful with it?
[6:01] <Torikun> administer vnc wrb tunneling
[6:01] <Torikun> web i meant
[6:01] <Torikun> irc
[6:02] <biberao> ok i guess
[6:02] <Torikun> my fiance always hogs my macbook so im stuck with nexus7
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[6:03] <biberao> lucky
[6:04] <biberao> i aint got a mac nor nexus
[6:04] <biberao> 7
[6:04] <biberao> lol
[6:04] <Torikun> lol
[6:05] <Torikun> anyone have the zonbu mini
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[6:05] <biberao> anyway to capture sport games and output over like omxplayer
[6:05] <biberao> because i need good image
[6:06] <Torikun> printscreen works?
[6:06] <biberao> what do you mean?
[6:06] <biberao> i need the game playing
[6:06] <biberao> lol
[6:08] <atgc> happy new years folks
[6:09] <Torikun> happy new year
[6:09] <Torikun> and we spend it here lol
[6:10] <biberao> you too guys
[6:10] <dr_willis> Hmm. Need a decent way to remote into the wifes xbian pi media player and setup playlists for her.
[6:11] <dr_willis> Does the web interface thing let you set up playlists? or just do a remote?
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[6:23] <dr_willis> aha. found a nice web interface. for her playlists. ;)
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[6:24] <biberao> which
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[6:24] <dr_willis> only other web interface in the plugins i could install. wixi wixt , somthing like that. ;)
[6:25] <dr_willis> AWXi ;)
[6:25] <biberao> dr_willis: xbian
[6:25] <biberao> right
[6:25] <biberao> ?
[6:25] <dr_willis> yes
[6:25] <biberao> i cant get it to work
[6:25] <dr_willis> latest as of today
[6:25] <biberao> it doesnt start my wifi
[6:27] <dr_willis> hmm. just got wifi going on it.
[6:27] <dr_willis> not sure what chipset. I got 3 wifi dongles that i picked up that work with no hassles in most disrtos
[6:28] <biberao> but it works on openelec
[6:29] <dr_willis> rt2800usb I got works here.. but not on openelec
[6:29] <dr_willis> ;)
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[6:30] <dr_willis> see what module it needs perhaps.
[6:30] <dr_willis> I did use the xbian-config script over ssh. not the xbmc-gui tool to configure it on xbian
[6:30] <biberao> i have a rt8188cu
[6:30] <biberao> or something
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[6:32] <biberao> xbian allows ssh?
[6:32] <biberao> raspbmc
[6:32] <biberao> sucks at ssh
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[6:38] <biberao> bye
[6:38] <dr_willis> xbian has a nice config tool via ssh.
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[6:45] <xrosnight> hey
[6:45] <TAFB_ssd> hey xrosnight :)
[6:45] <xrosnight> has anyone had a php test page for Raspberry .
[6:46] <xrosnight> hey TAFB_ssd :D
[6:46] <xrosnight> happy new year ! :D
[6:46] <TAFB_ssd> you can just do the phpinfo() thing, for a test
[6:47] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: i wan to see the exact usage of CPU , RAM dynamically
[6:47] <TAFB_ssd> <?php phpinfo(); ?>
[6:47] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: ahhhh, tricky :)
[6:47] <TAFB_ssd> my status page has some source code at the bottom, http://tafb.yi.org
[6:47] <TAFB_ssd> it'll get you cpu, ram, etc, but not dynamically.
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[6:49] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: let me try
[6:49] <xrosnight> also i am using "top" the linux command
[6:49] <TAFB_ssd> k. what OS you running, Wheezy?
[6:50] <TAFB_ssd> top eats a whole bunch of CPU, it sucks.
[6:50] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: Archlinux
[6:50] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh... what webserver, nginx?
[6:50] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: yeah. nginx mysql php
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[6:50] <TAFB_ssd> nice :)
[6:51] <TAFB_ssd> read the readme, you just have to give permissions to the user "www-data" for php to be able to do the shell exec commands.
[6:52] <atouk> tafb, i changed the split detection from the old reaspi-config settings, to the new way
[6:52] <TAFB_ssd> atouk: nice!! i have not seen the new code. the old code never detected my split ;)
[6:52] <TAFB_ssd> did you see what it says for the split on my new page? :) http://tafb.yi.org
[6:53] <atouk> that's because it used a case statement based on the original 256 raspi settings
[6:53] <TAFB_ssd> ahhhh
[6:54] <atouk> if there were only 4 options, shy wast time doing math
[6:54] <atouk> (why waste)
[6:54] <TAFB_ssd> send me an e-mail with the new code snipits and I'll merge it into my source. atouk@tafb.xxx
[6:54] <atouk>
[6:55] <TAFB_ssd> so in the source at the bottom, the new code is in there?
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[6:56] <atouk> yup
[6:57] <TAFB_ssd> k. i'll have a look in a bit :)
[6:57] <xrosnight> what an exciting news
[6:57] <xrosnight> atouk: i am reading your README :D
[6:58] <TAFB_ssd> his readme is very good :)
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[6:59] <xrosnight> atouk: if i use Nginx, will i need to add "www-data ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL
[6:59] <xrosnight> " to the /etc/sudoers?
[7:00] <atouk> don't know i used apache
[7:00] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: what's yours then
[7:00] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: I didn't need it on mine, but I installed and run everything as root, so YMMV
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[7:01] <TAFB_ssd> atouk: did you make the animated raspberry gif or did you just find it? I'd like to make my seagate logo animated :)
[7:01] <atouk> found it
[7:02] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh
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[7:03] <bcgrown> hello, anyone else out there ringing in the new year by fiddling with their Pi?
[7:04] <mdszy> Happy new years to all you CST people!
[7:04] <mdszy> And now I'm going to bed, goodnight
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[7:04] <TAFB_ssd> bcgrown: kinda, I'm working on getting qmail working :)
[7:05] <bcgrown> TAFB_ssd: i'm trying to make GPIO event detection work in python. unsucessfully :(
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[7:05] <TAFB_ssd> ohhhh fancy :)
[7:06] <bcgrown> not sure what i'm doing wrong, and the docs are woefully sparse
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[7:10] <xrosnight> i read README that i need to install wiringpi
[7:11] <TAFB_ssd> i didn't try it on arch, cause my arch box doesn't have gpio
[7:11] <TAFB_ssd> it'll work without it xrosnight, just won't show you gpio pin status
[7:12] <xrosnight> alright. i havent had any experiment of GPIO on raspberry pi. have you ever done with LED or other stuff ??
[7:12] <TAFB_ssd> I have not yet, no.
[7:12] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: so. only on software and internet right untill now?
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[7:13] <TAFB_ssd> yep yep
[7:13] <TAFB_ssd> haven't tried to get my USB webcam setup with it yet either!
[7:13] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: i am going to hook my usb-cam on it. :D
[7:13] <xrosnight> and you should have a try also :D
[7:14] <xrosnight> let's do it together. :D
[7:14] <TAFB_ssd> yeah, you gonna use "motion"
[7:14] <xrosnight> what's "motion"?
[7:14] <TAFB_ssd> i gotta get my e-mail server part up and working first, then I can mess with the cam and gpio
[7:14] <TAFB_ssd> it's a software package for linux, it can detect motion on the cam and alert you or save .jpg images, and it can stream it to your webpage too!
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[7:33] <bcgrown> any gpio hackers in here?
[7:34] <SpeedEvil> ask a question
[7:34] <SpeedEvil> and then we can all ignore you.
[7:34] <bcgrown> SpeedEvil: how kind of you. Just wondering if anyone has managed to make event detection work in Python.
[7:34] <bcgrown> using rpi.gpio, that is
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[7:36] <SpeedEvil> alas, no clue here.
[7:36] <SpeedEvil> I need to get my pi hooked to my 1wire
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[7:39] <piney> i'm doing 1wire on my pi. got a couple ds18b20's
[7:39] <clear`> whats 1wire?
[7:39] <SpeedEvil> got a bag of 40
[7:39] <SpeedEvil> it is a simple serial bus
[7:39] <piney> a serial port to put it simple
[7:40] <SpeedEvil> useful for hooking up many things in parallel, sharing a wire
[7:40] <clear`> SpeedEvil: 40 ds18b20's?!
[7:40] <piney> 3 wires, positive, negative and data
[7:40] <SpeedEvil> yes
[7:40] <SpeedEvil> they were cheap
[7:40] <piney> they are
[7:40] <clear`> very cool, how hard is it to setup say 10 with the pi?
[7:41] <bcgrown> if you can set up 1, then in theory 10 would be no harder
[7:41] <piney> just as easy as one
[7:41] <clear`> would be a lot of wires tho
[7:41] <SpeedEvil> bcgrown: not really
[7:41] <piney> they are wired in parallel, so not too bad
[7:41] <clear`> oh interesting
[7:41] <SpeedEvil> bcgrown: you're running a dozen wires across the house
[7:41] <piney> just 3 wires going to every sensor
[7:42] <SpeedEvil> bcgrown: now, you have to work out which wire to attach which sensor to
[7:42] <clear`> i have a snake rack that has 7 tubs to house the snakes, would be neat to have a sensor in each tub
[7:42] <bcgrown> SpeedEvil: i thought they used a shared physical bus?
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[7:42] <SpeedEvil> they do
[7:43] <SpeedEvil> I mean if you have separate words
[7:43] <SpeedEvil> wires
[7:44] <clear`> hmm, a wireless setup with the sensors would be badass
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[7:48] <piney> http://pi.flsnj.com/temp/index3.html that's one of my ds18b20's. it will take a while to load cause the csv files are big since i'm recording once every minute
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[7:48] <TAFB_ssd> waiting....
[7:48] <piney> slow dsl here, continue to wait :)
[7:49] <TAFB_ssd> loaded :) nice charts.
[7:49] <TAFB_ssd> you keep it pretty cold in there! I like it around 23c :)
[7:49] <piney> dygraph charts
[7:50] <bcgrown> 23C is tropical. my thermostat is at 17 right now!
[7:50] <piney> i heat with a wood stove a few rooms away.
[7:50] <TAFB_ssd> bcgrown: lol :)
[7:50] <SpeedEvil> my current room temp is 10
[7:51] <clear`> hmm
[7:51] <clear`> my room temp is 75 =X
[7:51] <clear`> no clue what that is in C
[7:52] <SpeedEvil> subtract 32. divide by 1.8
[7:52] <TAFB_ssd> 23.8c, right were I like it :)
[7:53] <clear`> i live close to the tropics also, so it stays close to this year round :P
[7:53] <TAFB_ssd> nice! we got like 1ft of snow here the other day, not tropical at all right now :(
[7:53] <clear`> screw that!
[7:53] <clear`> i moved away from the snow
[7:54] <bcgrown> clear`: how boring
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[7:54] <clear`> it dropped down to 45F the other day (7C)
[7:54] <clear`> and everyone was bundled up like it snowed 5'
[7:54] <clear`> i wear shorts year round
[7:56] <piney> my next step is to put a ds18b20 in some pvc pipe double walled with an air gap in between and a fan on one end and a cap to keep rain out. that way i can accurately measure outdoor temperature without solar radiation messing up recordings
[7:56] <bcgrown> piney: you mean in a ventilated psychrometer
[7:57] <piney> i didn't know the technical term
[7:57] * piney googles
[7:57] <piney> looks like it
[7:57] <piney> cool
[7:58] <bcgrown> piney: well technically a psychrometer also measures humidity
[7:58] <piney> bcgrown, i plan on adding humidity in the future too
[7:59] <piney> alaong with barometric pressure, and a lightning counter
[7:59] <bcgrown> neato
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[8:00] <bcgrown> what are you using for a lightning sensor
[8:01] <piney> basically an am radio that will trigger. i was also looking at this lightning sensor IC. not too sure yet
[8:01] <piney> maybe play with both even
[8:02] <bcgrown> i saw a lightning sensor ic a while ago. looked cool but possibly made of unobtainium. hopefully yours is attainable
[8:05] <piney> as3935, the antenna looks a little tricky to source, but others look available.
[8:06] <piney> i stumbled upon it looking on newark's website trying to make a $100 purchase to take advantage of free shipping
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[8:08] <bcgrown> 8 bucks ish on digikey, not bad
[8:09] <TAFB_ssd> good tune, recorded in "hd": http://ecuflashking.com/music/Jack%20Johnson%20-%20Sleep%20Through%20The%20Static/10%20-%20Go%20On.flac
[8:10] <piney> TAFB_ssd, i hope that isn't copyrighted material, freenode doesn't like that
[8:10] <TAFB_ssd> nope, it's free
[8:10] <piney> :)
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[8:11] <TAFB_ssd> if you browse back a folder or two in that path there's some sweet michael jackson ripped from Vinyl though ;)
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[8:12] <atouk> and all i got to listen to was the drunks at the bar up the street singing karaoke with SDR
[8:12] <TAFB_ssd> ROFL :)
[8:12] <atouk> www.atouk.com/mygirl
[8:12] <ParkerR_> Happy New Years
[8:13] <atouk> oops mygirl.wav
[8:13] <TAFB_ssd> hahaha
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[8:14] <TAFB_ssd> my buddie does karaoke, I record his shows for him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5bI0JXrw5I
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[8:37] <mrmoney2012> anyone here retro gaming on Pi ? http://blog.sheasilverman.com/2012/12/happy-holidays-pimame-0-3-released/
[8:37] <mrmoney2012> quite good??? seems to work??? I need a controller that will work with it though...
[8:38] <clear`> id love to get some retro games on the pi
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[8:45] <dr_willis> Got my Big Arcade Controller i need to fit a Pi Into. but I got to many other uses for my 2 Pi's right now.
[8:45] <clear`> you just need a 3rd pi
[8:46] <dr_willis> I need about 6 pi's ;)
[8:46] <clear`> same
[8:46] <mrmoney2012> i have seen these USB gamepads ...
[8:46] <dr_willis> wife took one. its her xbian media center. It did keep hanging on some videos a little bit ago,. same spot on 4 differnt (same show) videos.
[8:46] <mrmoney2012> likely to "just work" with pimame ?
[8:47] <dr_willis> mrmoney2012: i imagine most common controllers should work
[8:47] <mrmoney2012> usb ones ?
[8:47] <dr_willis> most are usb these days.. yes..
[8:47] <dr_willis> :)
[8:47] <dr_willis> My Arcade Controller is a PS/2 keyboard controller. so i have a ps2->usb adaptor for it.
[8:48] <mrmoney2012> ok.. great.. hope i can pick one up today !
[8:48] <dr_willis> I have an adaptor somewhere for GameCube/PS/Xbox controllers also - that worked on linux for me. Wonder where i put it at.
[8:48] <mrmoney2012> guess its best to purchase on internet though
[8:49] <dr_willis> Seen some SNES-clone controllers :) if you like snes.
[8:49] <mrmoney2012> yes - i've seen some
[8:49] <mrmoney2012> would something like this likely work in the interim ? http://www.maplin.co.uk/pc-usb-gamepad-36985
[8:49] <mrmoney2012> just i can probably get one today
[8:50] <mrmoney2012> while I wait for something better in the post
[8:52] <dr_willis> most likely will.
[8:52] <mrmoney2012> or this??? http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/saitek-p380-gamepad-00776918-pdt.html
[8:52] <dr_willis> ive seen very few gamepads that dident work. :) you might have to load some modules by hand.
[8:52] <mrmoney2012> thanks btw
[8:52] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: hey could you check this page :http://xroslight.oicp.net:81/temp/pi/index.php
[8:52] <dr_willis> Saitek is most likely a better brand to get
[8:52] <mrmoney2012> cheaper too
[8:53] <dr_willis> i had a wireless Saitek that worked well for ages.
[8:56] <mrmoney2012> i have some wii controllers - bluetooth i think
[8:57] <mrmoney2012> maybe i should pick up a bluetooth usb adapter too.. been meaning to try to hook them up to the pi at some point
[8:58] <dr_willis> Im not sure how to configure bluetooth for most disrtos..
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[9:45] <gordonDrogon> Happy new morning, chaps & chapeses!
[9:46] <SpeedEvil> morning
[9:46] <TAFB_ssd> mornin :)
[9:47] <dr_willis> Howdy
[9:47] <dr_willis> pimame - is a bit.. sluggish. ;)
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[9:47] <TAFB_ssd> that sucks. you'd think if it can play quake3 it'd play mame games fine! lol
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[9:49] <dr_willis> It slowly do Satans Hollow.
[9:49] <dr_willis> and thats a rather old game. ;)
[9:49] <dr_willis> the web-rom-upload feature is neat.
[9:50] <gordonDrogon> game pad for the Pi? I did this a while back: https://projects.drogon.net/nes-controller-on-the-raspberry-pi/
[9:50] <gordonDrogon> just a bit of fun though :)
[9:51] <dr_willis> I got a large arcade controller. ;)
[9:51] <dr_willis> 1000x bigger then the pi. ;)
[9:52] <TAFB_ssd> alright, almost 4am here, I'm off to bed. nite nite :)
[9:53] <gordonDrogon> Be seeing you..
[9:53] <gordonDrogon> almost 9am here. Breakfast time!
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[9:56] <rymate1234> phew
[9:56] <rymate1234> fixed my pi
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[9:56] <rymate1234> turns out it was a kernel problem
[9:58] <sirspazzolot> with an original model b (256 ram or whatever the original is) which would you guys say typically runs better, gentoo or arch?
[9:58] <rymate1234> don't you have to compile everything with gentoo?
[9:58] <sirspazzolot> yeah, that's part of the reason I haven't jumped straight into putting gentoo on my class 10 card
[9:59] <sirspazzolot> but I really like gentoo (using it right now) and I'd like to use it on the pi
[9:59] <sirspazzolot> but I dunno how unusably slow it'd be, or how much better arch would be, or whatever else
[9:59] <rymate1234> well
[10:00] <sirspazzolot> I guess I could always just make an image for both
[10:00] <rymate1234> I imagine once everything is compiled
[10:00] <rymate1234> it'll be just as fast
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[10:25] <pecorade> Hi.
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[10:46] <sirspazzolot> oh, should I put a media distro like raspbmc or whatever on a large sd card so I can keep media on the card, or can it stream fast off a standard usb2 flash drive?
[10:47] <dr_willis> been using xbian here.
[10:47] <dr_willis> plays fine for me from USB HD
[10:47] <sirspazzolot> wonderful, thank you
[10:47] <dr_willis> im not doing Uber-HD videos however.
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[10:47] <sirspazzolot> yeah I doubt I will be either
[10:47] <dr_willis> trying to figure out how to configure BLuetooth keyboard at the moment.
[10:48] <sirspazzolot> I got a neato little presenter keyboard/trackpad/laserpointer thing that works otb surprisingly so I dodged that bullet B)
[10:48] <dr_willis> picked up 3 bluetooth keyboards on clearance for $12 each.. normally $80
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[10:50] <sirspazzolot> wow, nice
[10:50] <sirspazzolot> I love all the sales during the holidays
[10:51] <dr_willis> these are Motorolla brand. Not sure why they were on clearance. but they work well. pair of double A's lasted several months on one.
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[10:53] <dr_willis> doh.. installed bluez-utils and it pulled in cups on my XBMC media player. ;) a little over kill.
[10:53] <dr_willis> and a bunch of other stuff i dont need. ;)
[10:55] <sirspazzolot> hah that's part of why I want gentoo. use flags keep out what isn't needed
[10:55] <dr_willis> if you know which of the 100000000 flags you need.
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[11:00] <gordonDrogon> always wondered about gentoo, but just never got round to it. Sticking to Debian for now.
[11:01] <dobra-dobra> exit
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[11:37] <dr_willis> bummer.. cant figure out how to link my bluetooth keyboard via the command line tools in xbian.
[11:37] <dr_willis> ;(
[11:38] <dr_willis> oh well.. try it tomorrows.
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[11:57] <cdan_> good morning and a Happy new Year !
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[12:06] <sirspazzolot> you too!
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[12:28] <cdan_> if I want to discuss about implementation shortcomings of the i2c-bcm2708 module
[12:28] <cdan_> what would be the best place to ask questions ?
[12:29] <chithead> you could discuss this in the official forum
[12:32] <shiftplusone> cdan_, just don't do so in an annoying concern trolling way.
[12:34] <cdan_> shiftplusone, what is 'trolling' ?
[12:36] <shiftplusone> concern troll - Someone who posts to an internet forum or newsgroup, claiming to share its goals while deliberately working against those goals, typically, by claiming "concern" about group plans to engage in productive activity, urging members instead to attempt some activity that would damage the group's credibility, or alternatively to give up on group projects entirely.
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[12:37] <xrosnight> happy new year to all!
[12:38] <shiftplusone> but... that was like 10 hours ago
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[12:38] <shiftplusone> get with the times, xrosnight =p
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[12:39] <xrosnight> still new its 1st Jan 2013
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[12:41] <shiftplusone> I suppose
[12:42] <cdan_> shiftplusone, ok, then lets put it this way: I am trying to read a MLX90614 IR temperature sensor using the I2C bus on pi and I have failed
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[12:43] <shiftplusone> cdan_, I wasn't trying to accuse you of anything, sorry. Yeah 'course that's worth posting on the forum about.
[12:44] <SpeedEvil> cdan_: have you got a scope?
[12:45] <cdan_> SpeedEvil, what do you mean ?
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[12:45] <SpeedEvil> cdan_: to verify the levels are sane, and you're not seeing issues due to flaky power, bad pull ups, ...
[12:45] <cdan_> SpeedEvil, ohh, you mean oscilloscope
[12:45] <SpeedEvil> why do you suspect it's the i2c driver?
[12:46] <cdan_> SpeedEvil, well, I have read the kernel source code and the BCM2835 pheripheral spec
[12:46] <cdan_> SpeedEvil, and also found some info on a forum
[12:47] <cdan_> SpeedEvil, someone has used a scope to monitor the I2C bus and has discovered that there is a STOP condition sent in the middle of a read transaction
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[12:47] <SpeedEvil> odd
[12:48] <cdan_> SpeedEvil, the idea is that when you read the temp from the MLX90614 sensor you need to specify an internal register address , not only the slave address
[12:49] <cdan_> SpeedEvil, and it seems that the PI is not able to send a REPEATED START between the SLAVE ADDRESS and INTERNAL REGISTER ADDRESS
[12:49] <cdan_> instead it sends a STOP
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[12:49] <SpeedEvil> hmm
[12:50] <cdan_> most of the I2C slave devices will cope with that but the MLX90614 performes a reset
[12:50] <SpeedEvil> the hardware is unable, or themdricer is broken?
[12:50] <SpeedEvil> driver
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[12:51] <cdan_> well, for one thing, from reading the specs I am inclined to say that the controller does not support this type of transaction
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[12:53] <cdan_> but, at the same time it seems odd to me for broadcom to ommit it , plus the spec is more or less sparse on this subject
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[12:54] <rkreis> hi :)
[12:55] <cdan_> second, from reading the kernel source I could see that the i2c-bcm2708 module implements this operation using 2 separate transactions
[12:55] <cdan_> START + a write + STOP + START + a read + STOP
[12:56] <rkreis> good PSU, good sd card with raspbmc (also tested openelec), only hdmi connected -> rpi switches off randomly. can this be anything else than a hardware fault?
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[12:59] <wiiguy> rkreis ya sure ya rpi is getting enough power ?
[13:00] <cdan_> SpeedEvil, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/download/file.php?id=1308&sid=b38bf54c7d285788ee8be01accd75fa9
[13:00] <rkreis> absolutely
[13:00] <wiiguy> hmmm
[13:01] <rkreis> at this point, i'm using an adjustable PSU connected to the GPIO header
[13:02] <rkreis> it all seems quite random... at one point, i had it running for ages even with keyboard, network and video
[13:04] <rkreis> also, i don't think i broke anything - it was unstable even before i connected anything to the GPIO header, and i didn't do anything "weird" with it either
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[13:06] <rkreis> when it crashes, hdmi goes dead, the rpi draws little power and only the red light is on until i power cycle - is that a kernel panic or something completely different?
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[13:08] <gordonDrogon> cdan_, write up what you find... I'm just about to start playing with the I2C myself... Don't know why people rant & rave on about it though, I personally think it's a horrible interface, but there you go.
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[13:13] <SpeedEvil> it-s a horrible but mostly adequate interface
[13:13] <SpeedEvil> that's fast enough
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[13:17] <alpha080> :exit
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[13:20] <gordonDrogon> mostly adequate... reminds me of mostly harmless :)
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[13:40] <frikinz> Hi. Is anyone using scratchbox2 to build debian packages? I'm getting trouble everytime with dpkg-shlibdeps. Want to check if this is general or if something is broken on my environment.
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[13:55] <shiftplusone> frikinz, I remember someone had the same issue a while ago... might have been you though.
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[13:58] <cdan_> gordonDrogon, most small sensors I have come upon use I2C to communicate
[13:58] <cdan_> gordonDrogon, you might be interested in reading this this thread http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=17738&p=228159
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[14:00] <TAFB_ssd> mornin peeps :)
[14:01] <xrosnight> why is that there are only 200MB mem on my Archlinux ??
[14:01] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: hey morning :D
[14:01] <gordonDrogon> cdan_, yea. I have a touchscreen sensor to read...
[14:01] <gordonDrogon> xrosnight, how are you checking memory?
[14:02] <xrosnight> $~ top
[14:02] <gordonDrogon> xrosnight, that's fine.
[14:02] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: not sure, my arch box only has 128mb so didn't run into that issue :)
[14:03] <gordonDrogon> xrosnight, Linux manages memory for you - add up the buffers and cached numbers too - they're effectively 'free' memory but marked as in-use by having copies of frequently used data off the SD card.
[14:03] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: alright. but mine only shows KiB Mem: 188060 total, 174972 used, 13088 free, 7768 buffers
[14:03] <TAFB_ssd> hmmm, you're "total" number isn't right.
[14:03] <gordonDrogon> if you run a program that needs more memory, Linux will drop the buffers and cache as it needs to.
[14:03] <TAFB_ssd> gordonDrogon: it's complaining about total, not free ;)
[14:03] <TAFB_ssd> he's...
[14:04] <gordonDrogon> total is fine too - that's using a bigger gpu memory split, that's all.
[14:04] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: you might wanna ask in #archlinux-arm , they might have more experience running arch.
[14:04] <gordonDrogon> change the gpu memory split to improve things there if not using the gpu.
[14:04] <TAFB_ssd> ahhh, forgot about the gpu split, must be set to huge number?
[14:05] <xrosnight> gordonDrogon: this is my computer info http://pastie.org/5606355
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[14:05] <gordonDrogon> xrosnight, check /boot/config.txt for gpu_mem=XX
[14:06] <gordonDrogon> xrosnight, is it a 256MB or 512MB board?
[14:06] <xrosnight> gordonDrogon: actually i've checked it. no gpu_mem acutally
[14:06] <xrosnight> it's a 512MB board
[14:07] <gordonDrogon> xrosnight, ok - arch not moved on to the new system then.
[14:07] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=5821
[14:07] <gordonDrogon> you probably have a boot/startXXX.elf copied to /boot/start.elf - copy the startXXX with the highest number to /boot/start.elf
[14:08] <gordonDrogon> or just install Raspbian ;-)
[14:09] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: maybe the same. but the arch i've downloaded is released after September 2012
[14:09] <TAFB_ssd> check for those start elf files.
[14:10] <mumbles> i did something strange to my pi last night its not bootign up
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[14:10] <gordonDrogon> mumbles, just re-install.
[14:10] <gordonDrogon> switch it off and back on again :)
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[14:12] <Kane> o/
[14:14] <xrosnight> gordonDrogon: i have checked the page http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=20072. i need a pacman -Syu
[14:14] <xrosnight> wow. let me try :D
[14:15] <xrosnight> the most painful thing is that many of all packages should be downloaded again
[14:15] <xrosnight> to keep the archlinux the newest one.
[14:16] <xrosnight> gordonDrogon: by the way, are you the writer of GPIO and WiringPi ?
[14:16] <gordonDrogon> xrosnight, yup.
[14:16] <xrosnight> gordonDrogon: you did awesome job!
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[14:18] <gordonDrogon> cheers!
[14:18] <xrosnight> gordonDrogon: i have an arduino board, how to use your GPIO then? using python ?
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[14:20] <shiftplusone> Would anyone happen to know what the voltage high for GPIO 1 or GPIO 3 should be? 5v or 3.3v?
[14:20] <gordonDrogon> xrosnight, I have arduinos too. I don't use Python - everything I do is in C.
[14:20] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, on the Pi, all GPIOs are 3.3v
[14:20] <shiftplusone> 3.3, right?
[14:20] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, thanks.
[14:22] <gordonDrogon> there is a 5V pin on the gpio connector, but it's power only.
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[14:25] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, you wouldn't happen to have a 'wake from halt' tutorial on your site, would you? Or at least a switch tutorial I could link someone to to help them?
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[14:28] <pecorade> Hi.
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[14:29] <shiftplusone> Actually, it looks that just shorting the pin to ground works anyway.
[14:29] <gordonDrogon> shiftplusone, you want a reset switch - it's possible on the Rev 2 to extract the reset pin..
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[14:31] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, nuh I am not talking about reset, but an actual wake from halt.
[14:31] <shiftplusone> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=24682
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[14:31] <shiftplusone> Does't matter now, dom gave a good enough reply.
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[14:32] <xacobe97> where can i buy gpio wires female to male? i can't find anywhere
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[14:36] <gordonDrogon> Hm. ok.
[14:36] <gordonDrogon> xacobe97, if in the UK you could try Tandy or skpang.
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[14:37] <gordonDrogon> http://www.tandyonline.co.uk/electronics/prototyping/male-to-female-jumper-wires-10pk.html
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[14:39] <DooMMasteR> Happy new year everyone :)
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[14:40] <Hopsy> how do I configure dhcp on my pi?
[14:41] <TAFB_ssd> Hopsy: should do it automatically :)
[14:41] <Hopsy> sooo, I dont read an static ip then?
[14:41] <TAFB_ssd> sure you go DCHP on in your router? not using mac address filtering, etc?
[14:41] <Hopsy> nead *
[14:41] <Hopsy> need *
[14:41] <TAFB_ssd> Hopsy: you can config a static IP in your pi if you want, but dhcp works well.
[14:41] <Hopsy> no its directly connected
[14:41] <Hopsy> I am not using a router
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[14:42] <TAFB_ssd> what type of internet provider? some DSL services don't work with DHCP (they are PPPoE).
[14:42] <xrosnight> Hopsy: type dhcpcd
[14:42] <Hopsy> currently its a static ip, I need to change that every time when I use my NAS.
[14:43] <Hopsy> and now? xrosnight
[14:43] <xrosnight> you don't use a router . then go on
[14:44] <xrosnight> you mean you need a dynamic ip while using PPPoE ?
[14:44] <TAFB_ssd> Hopsy: why don't you use a router? then you can have your NAS and Pi plugged in and they'll both be happy :)
[14:44] <Hopsy> thats correct haha TAFB_ssd
[14:44] <xacobe97> gordonDrogon: im in spain, but i'll see if the shipping aren't very expensive
[14:45] <Hopsy> which router do you preffer? TAFB_ssd
[14:45] <xrosnight> everybody needs a router :D
[14:45] <Hopsy> never used a router though
[14:45] <TAFB_ssd> I picked up some Cisco M10 routers for $10, flashed them with Tomato, they work awesome.
[14:45] <xrosnight> i am using my router to forwarding my web server :D
[14:46] <xrosnight> that's Tomato?
[14:46] <xrosnight> whats?
[14:46] <TAFB_ssd> do you know DD-WRT?
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[14:46] <jelly1> openwrt
[14:47] <TAFB_ssd> xrosnight: they are different operating systems for inside your router.
[14:47] <xrosnight> yeah. i know openwrt
[14:47] <xrosnight> i have two routers . one is wired, the other one is wireless
[14:48] <Hopsy> TAFB_ssd: do you have a step by step manual for how to configure tomato
[14:48] <TAFB_ssd> It's different for every router you buy.
[14:48] <TAFB_ssd> I have the instructions for the M10 and M10v2
[14:48] <Hopsy> cool, can you send that?
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[14:49] <TAFB_ssd> Hopsy: http://forums.redflagdeals.com/canada-computers-9-99-dd-wrt-tomato-compatible-cisco-valet-m10-router-1279170/7/#post16068980
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[14:50] <Hopsy> nice thanks!
[14:50] <mrmoney2012> guys - pima me - any advantage in allocating gpu memory ?
[14:50] <mrmoney2012> 192 / 64 / 16 - what's best ?
[14:51] <xrosnight> jelly1: is openwrt an opensource software from China?
[14:51] <TAFB_ssd> no probs. before buying a router, confirm it works with DDWRT or Tomato first!!
[14:51] <mrmoney2012> that's for pi-mame
[14:51] <markedathome> mrmoney2012: what are you using it for
[14:51] <jelly1> xrosnight: it's something you can google
[14:51] <mrmoney2012> some games are rather choppy - have locked clock at 950
[14:53] <frikinz> http://www.wi-fiplanet.com/columns/article.php/3816236/The-DD-WRT-Controversy.htm ..
[14:53] <jelly1> mrmoney2012: does mame even use opengl
[14:53] <chithead> http://wiki.openwrt.org/toh/start has a list of devices which work under openwrt. most of them are supported by dd-wrt too.
[14:53] <mrmoney2012> thats what i wonder
[14:54] <mrmoney2012> is it frame buffer?
[14:54] <jelly1> it's an emulator so hmm
[14:54] <mrmoney2012> so what does that mean - allocate 16 to gpu or 192
[14:54] <chithead> mrmoney2012: if you want to decode 1080p h.264, you need 64 mb gpu memory
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[14:54] <mrmoney2012> min or max
[14:55] <chithead> if you want 3d acceleration you also need some memory for textures etc. how much depends on the application
[14:57] <Hopsy> did anyone succeed with installing openwrt on a raspberrypi?
[14:58] <xrosnight> Hopsy: yeah. some of them.
[14:58] <xrosnight> i heard from a CHinese geek forum
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[14:58] <Hopsy> link?? :D
[14:58] <xrosnight> but i see that now openwrt is not updating
[14:58] <Hopsy> hmm
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[15:01] <xrosnight> Hopsy: http://groups.google.com/group/raspberrypi-openwrt-dev/topics
[15:04] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: hey does tomato support DDNS ? my ISP provider flirts my port 80. I want to have a way to forward my domain name to my server which is hooked up with a router with DDNS function, and its IP is dynamic.
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[15:16] <tapas> hmm.. if a USB device pulls too much power from the pi, but it works on a pc..
[15:16] <tapas> would i be able to fix that by using usb power from the pc to power up the pi?
[15:16] <tapas> and hope enough is left for the other device, too?
[15:16] <TAFB_ssd> the USB ports on Pi are current limited by polyfust F3 (plus tiny wire traces).
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[15:16] <TAFB_ssd> you would need a powered USB hub
[15:17] <tapas> oh right.. that's a way, too..
[15:17] <TAFB_ssd> every Pi should come with a USB hub. Anything other than mouse/keyboard is too much for the Pi :)
[15:18] <TAFB_ssd> you can hotwire your Pi to provide more power to the USB ports, you can also back power it by USB (but you'll lose one port), or power it with GPIO as well. lots of options for more juice.
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[15:18] <TAFB_ssd> http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/340/how-much-power-can-be-provided-through-usb
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[15:18] <TAFB_ssd> my pi looks like this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/eU2tt.jpg
[15:18] <TAFB_ssd> i can power two 2.5" hard drive right from my Pi :)
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[15:25] <Hopsy> TAFB_ssd: thats so cool
[15:26] <Hopsy> where did you attach the black wire
[15:26] <Hopsy> do you have a better camera :p
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[15:26] <TAFB_ssd> not my pic :)
[15:26] <TAFB_ssd> the black wire goes to edge of D17, red wire goes to edge of F3
[15:27] <Hopsy> ow
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[15:28] <TAFB_ssd> I try and take good quality pictures, I have no idea who/what did that pic I linked :) my pic: http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi.jpg
[15:28] <TAFB_ssd> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-17-RaspberryPi_with_external_drive.jpg
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[15:30] <tapas> TAFB_ssd: thanks
[15:31] <TAFB_ssd> no probs, have fun with your pi :)
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[15:31] <Hopsy> TAFB_ssd: where did you find that suitcase
[15:32] <TAFB_ssd> you mean the PiCase? www.ebay.com/itm/110959219089
[15:33] <TAFB_ssd> if that link doesn't work, try http://www.ebay.com/itm/110984616925
[15:33] <Hopsy> woow, which that money I can buy 2 extra pi's :p
[15:33] <TAFB_ssd> not sure if they are available any more :)
[15:34] <TAFB_ssd> yep, twice the price of a Pi!
[15:34] <TAFB_ssd> he always sold out of them so fast, and he'd only make 10 at a time :)
[15:34] <cdan_> TAFB_ssd, does it have an opening for the ribbon cable ?
[15:34] <mumbles> woah my sd card wont fomrat with gparted
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[15:53] <xrosnight> TAFB_ssd: do you know any newest Archlinux image for Rspi?
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[16:11] <mrmoney2012> any advanced mame experts on - i get a lot of game_name.zip isn't supported messages???. some games work - any ideas /
[16:14] <xrosnight> ?
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[16:20] <nickwebcouk> Can you underclock a Pi?
[16:20] <Hopsy> am I the only one that cant install this: http://www.sirmc.net/view/9001/
[16:20] <nickwebcouk> I know it can be overclocked without voiding your warranty, but can it be underclocked?
[16:21] <Hopsy> wiringpi python
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[16:26] <xrosnight> Hopsy: don't know. is yours Raspbian?
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[16:37] <Hopsy> raspbian xrosnight?
[16:37] <Hopsy> its a wheezy
[16:37] <xrosnight> yeah. i am installing raspbian on my Raspberry Pi now.
[16:37] <Hopsy> ow yes, sorry
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[16:37] <xrosnight> gonna install wiring pi and other stuff
[16:38] <Hopsy> I downloaded from raspberrypi I assume its a raspbian
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[16:39] <mads-> I have a model B rev 2 and I have connected a powered usb hub to one of the USB ports. However, the transfer speed between the external harddrive I have connected (Verbatim usb-powered) is horribly slow. Have anyone experienced this with external harddrives?
[16:42] <gordonDrogon> xrosnight, wiringPi FTW :)
[16:42] <Hopsy> when it works gordonDrogon
[16:42] <Hopsy> :p
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[16:43] <gordonDrogon> well...
[16:43] <gordonDrogon> I don't have any control over the wiringPi Python wrappers though.
[16:43] <gordonDrogon> I just do the C stuff.
[16:44] <Hopsy> http://cache.gyazo.com/f2a5b838fa2ccaa5522decaae8e99a31.png?1357055012
[16:44] <gordonDrogon> intersting to note that quick2wire is using the same pin-outs/number as wiringPi does...
[16:44] <Hopsy> ow
[16:44] <xrosnight> Hopsy: you don't have a module named setuptools
[16:44] <gordonDrogon> Hopsy, sorry - you'll need to see Gadgetoid about that - he did the Python wrapper...
[16:44] <xrosnight> for python
[16:44] <gordonDrogon> I just do C.
[16:45] <Hopsy> xrosnight: where do I download that?
[16:45] <xrosnight> Hopsy: you need to type those commmands maybe : apt-cache search python setuptools
[16:45] <xrosnight> see what you get
[16:46] <xrosnight> for raspbian. python3.2 is installed by default
[16:46] <Hopsy> yeah, and what should I type in when I am not connected to internet? :p
[16:47] <xrosnight> so all you need is to type " sudo apt-get install python3-setuptools"
[16:47] <xrosnight> if you don't have internet, then can't help :p
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[16:49] <scummos> Hopsy: that looks very broken
[16:49] <Holden> on the latest image (2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian.zip) is ssh enabled by default?
[16:50] <scummos> I think ssh is enabled by default, yes
[16:50] <scummos> Holden: search apt for setuptools maybe?
[16:50] <scummos> I feel like they should be installed by default
[16:50] <scummos> if not install python-setuptool
[16:51] <scummos> s
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[16:51] <scummos> oh that was already said... sorry then
[16:51] <xrosnight> Holden: yeah. that's why i am installing raspbian by air
[16:55] <Holden> scummos, xrosnight, ok thanks. I am using an old image, but I want to start with a new clean one, if ssh wasn't enabled by default I would have to get a kb and a monitor...
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[16:55] <xrosnight> Holden: all i have is a TV. no more
[16:55] <xrosnight> but i don't need to turn it on
[16:55] <Hopsy> yeah found it
[16:55] <Hopsy> http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/python-setuptools/download
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[16:56] <xrosnight> Hopsy: yeah. you do
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[16:57] <Hopsy> yeah I like deppencie errors, now I should download 20 packages!
[16:58] <Hopsy> manually :'(
[16:58] <xrosnight> Hopsy using apt-get install
[16:58] <scummos> Holden: I'm pretty sure ssh is on by default and even if it isn't you can just mount the sdcard and edit the config file before you boot it on the pi
[16:58] <xrosnight> it might help
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[17:01] <Holden> scummos, ok, but from a quick look to config.txt or /boot in general on the old image I don't see anything related to ssh... anyway I'm sure it's enabled by default as you all said, so I'll backup my things and reflash the sd
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[17:02] <Hopsy> yeah step forward! O/ http://cache.gyazo.com/18df246c216ffc22ed146ec36a713e2f.png?1357056098
[17:02] <scummos> Hopsy: no, but you could look at the other partition and edit the init script there. but just boot, it's not going to be necessary.
[17:03] <scummos> Hopsy: now you need python-dev
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[17:37] <Hopsy> okay this is a very noob question, is this correct? http://cache.gyazo.com/cd1ac463b02cf43b46c977d53c04187c.png?1357058215
[17:41] <bcgrown> Hopsy: i'm not sure how wiringPi numbers the pins, but the GPIO pins aren't made to sink or source a lot of current. it would be better to control your LED with a transistor
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[17:46] <bcgrown> Hopsy: do this instead: http://www.techshire.com/freebies/LED4dummies_images/LEDNPN.jpg, where one of the GPIO pins connects to the left side of R2
[17:47] <Holden> Hopsy, or, use a resistor with a value > 1000??, and if you should probably connect the series of resistor+led between the GPIO pin and ground (if you use +5V instead of ground you get an 'inverting' behaviour)
[17:47] <Hopsy> bcgrown: not found
[17:47] <Hopsy> image cant be found
[17:48] <bcgrown> Hopsy: http://i.imgur.com/rHlsY.jpg
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[17:49] <xrosnight> bcgrown: whats Q1 for
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[17:51] <bcgrown> xrosnight: switches the LED current. it protects the GPIO pin because you only need a very tiny current into the base (right side of R2) to control the current from collector to emitter (top to bottom of Q2)
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[17:53] <xrosnight> bcgrown: is this picture ? http://i.imgur.com/rHlsY.jpg i didn't find Q2?
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[17:54] <bcgrown> xrosnight: sorry, meant to say Q1
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[17:55] <bcgrown> xrosnight: R2 also limits the current into the base for extra protection
[17:57] <xrosnight> bcgrown: i see. yeah. i think so. if the base is a output one. Then i think a diode will be preferred.
[17:58] <Hopsy> I will use an adafruit tutorial for this
[17:58] <bcgrown> xrosnight: you could add a diode if you want but it's unnecessary. you want to keep the voltage high on the base to keep the transistor turned on hard
[17:58] <Hopsy> they have also nice products
[17:59] <bcgrown> xrosnight: in any case you'd still want a current limiting resistor on the base
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[17:59] <Hopsy> brb
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[18:01] <frikinz> rm -rf scratchbox2
[18:01] <frikinz> feels better
[18:02] <xrosnight> bcgrown: yeah. if the Voltage which we get from the top is too high, and there be possibility that the transistor could be damaged, we need to put a diode on the left side or right side of R2 before the base
[18:03] <bcgrown> xrosnight: you're not going to damage the transistor with 3.3V out from the Pi
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[18:03] <bcgrown> xrosnight: and if you were really worried about overvolting the transistor, it would be better to put a zener in parallel with the base
[18:04] <bcgrown> xrosnight: and better still to design your circuit so that can't happen :)
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[18:06] <MachinaeWolf> Is it just me or does raspbian have the most supported packages?
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[18:07] <KiltedPi> Got myself the OWI Robotic arm yesterday
[18:07] <xrosnight> bcgrown: yeah. but i mean of other usages, e.g. we use GPIO to control a motor. Zener diodes behave in this way, which makes them useful as voltage regulators. I might want to control my 220V light in that way.
[18:07] <KiltedPi> Went into Maplin electronics, to get stuff for an LED test circuit-
[18:07] <KiltedPi> Ended up spending about ??130/$250
[18:08] <KiltedPi> What are Zener Diodes?
[18:08] <xrosnight> KiltedPi: do you have the pic or link?
[18:08] <KiltedPi> Oh! one sec-
[18:08] <KiltedPi> http://www.robotshop.com/eu/owi-535-robotic-arm-edge.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=base&utm_campaign=GoogleUK
[18:08] <KiltedPi> Thats where you can buy one, it uses the GPIO header.
[18:08] <KiltedPi> And re-program it easily enough in python
[18:09] <MachinaeWolf> So was I right?
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[18:09] <bcgrown> xrosnight: don't know what you're saying exactly. i thought we were talking about controlling LEDs :) but really the same principles apply to controlling any load
[18:10] <KiltedPi> Ah, I was going to ask something very similiar-
[18:10] <KiltedPi> I know the train of thought here- bcgrown
[18:10] <xrosnight> Zener is a name. Zener diodes are a kind of diode which behave very well as voltage regulators.
[18:10] <bcgrown> xrosnight: yes, i'm aware
[18:10] <KiltedPi> Theres all these recommendations about "Zener" diodes whenever people bring up LED test circuits
[18:10] <KiltedPi> Its meant to be safer
[18:11] <KiltedPi> from a power management point of view isn't it?
[18:11] <KiltedPi> So you don't brick your raspberry pi
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[18:11] <bcgrown> KiltedPi: the circuit i gave is perfectly safe. a zener in parallel with the GPIO pin would make it slightly safer
[18:11] <KiltedPi> I'm happy with my LED test circuit, no bread board, just had my dad show me the ropes.
[18:12] <KiltedPi> Ah, I didn't see your diag bcgrown, joined later I think?
[18:12] <KiltedPi> But I've see this thing on the RPi forum a few times.
[18:12] <xrosnight> bcgrown: i mean if the machine , which i am going to control and needs high voltages to work functionally is control by a raspberry pi, then Zener diodes are preferred.
[18:12] <KiltedPi> Are the Zener diodes the err... 'wiggly' one? :)
[18:12] <xrosnight> bcgrown: i bought a LED light which really needs 220V :D
[18:13] <bcgrown> xrosnight: if you are controlling high voltages then i would recommend optical isolation as the safest option
[18:14] <KiltedPi> I'm very new to this electronics side of things. I know alot about software programming though
[18:14] <bcgrown> KiltedPi: yes, the "wiggly" one. http://www.electronics-tutorials.ws/diode/diode11.gif
[18:14] <xrosnight> bcgrown: like what , relay??
[18:14] <KiltedPi> Roger that.
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[18:15] <bcgrown> xrosnight: well, how fast/often do you need to switch it?
[18:15] <xrosnight> optical isolation sounds more tech
[18:15] <KiltedPi> I actually am wondering about the benefit of using a breadboard in all things Pi... I run a club for a local youth project, and I think the breadboard confuses matters with the kids.
[18:16] <KiltedPi> The wiring element is important I think.
[18:16] <xrosnight> bcgrown: i mean i want it to move actually, like a robot. it has large power motors
[18:16] <KiltedPi> Errr.. not an 'element' in the wire-
[18:16] <KiltedPi> :_
[18:16] <KiltedPi> :)
[18:16] <bcgrown> xrosnight: oh i thought you were talking about the light
[18:17] <KiltedPi> What are you building xrosnight?
[18:17] <xrosnight> bcgrown: i am going to build a aircraft
[18:17] <KiltedPi> I've been looking into re-programming a toy 'Big Trak'. You get them in the states, they have two stepper motors.
[18:18] <clear`> i had one of thos traks
[18:18] <clear`> was fun
[18:18] <clear`> super fast
[18:18] <xrosnight> powered by solar panel :D
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[18:18] <KiltedPi> You got it working with pi?
[18:18] <KiltedPi> I will be picking your brain soon no doubt, clear`!
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[18:18] <KiltedPi> Oh! You mean when you were a kid?
[18:18] <clear`> nope, i destroyed it lol
[18:19] <KiltedPi> Hah
[18:19] <KiltedPi> I haven't bricked my pi yet.
[18:19] <KiltedPi> I suspect it won't be long tho
[18:19] <KiltedPi> I'm doing a wildlife/electronics project with the kids
[18:19] <clear`> you have backups?
[18:19] <KiltedPi> Nope!
[18:19] <KiltedPi> :D
[18:19] <KiltedPi> I'm ordering a few for the club though
[18:20] <KiltedPi> Anymore word on the (Eagerly awaited) GPIO cameras yet?
[18:20] <clear`> i only have my pi setup for xbmc and filesharing
[18:20] <KiltedPi> Anyone know
[18:20] <clear`> nothing more
[18:20] <KiltedPi> Build an LED test circuit, clear`
[18:20] <clear`> home security would be cool to setup
[18:20] <KiltedPi> Ah, its akin to what i'm doing-
[18:20] <KiltedPi> Taking photos at night, of the wildlife
[18:20] <KiltedPi> Using cheap cameras.
[18:21] <KiltedPi> Alas, I haven't been able to source the cameras yet-
[18:21] <KiltedPi> I've a great link for motion sensing though!
[18:21] <KiltedPi> Want it? :)
[18:21] <piney> gonna be difficult using the rpi camera in low light conditions with the IR filter
[18:22] <KiltedPi> Thats the challenge for them. They'll be taking into account all sorts of factors.
[18:22] <KiltedPi> So far they play with scratch
[18:22] <KiltedPi> But the wildlife project is the BIG one.
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[18:22] <KiltedPi> http://whitehandkerchief.co.uk/blog/?p=109
[18:22] <KiltedPi> <--- heres a link for motion sensor stuff I found great.
[18:22] <ambro718> I can't find Valgrind in the raspbian repo, is it possible to get it running at all?
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[18:23] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, I think it's being worked on. it does rely on the x86 architecture a lot AIUI.
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[18:23] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, if you can compile/test your project on an x86 Linux it might help - obviously not if it's very Pi specific..
[18:24] <KiltedPi> Raspbian is almost identical to wheezy
[18:24] <gordonDrogon> KiltedPi, it's 2 DC drive motors - they're not steppers.
[18:24] <KiltedPi> Thats about all i know about Raspbian
[18:24] <KiltedPi> Ah, they aren't steppers?
[18:24] <gordonDrogon> no.
[18:24] <KiltedPi> Drat.
[18:24] <KiltedPi> hmmm...
[18:24] <gordonDrogon> not really...
[18:24] <KiltedPi> Right, I'll be afk a sec
[18:24] <gordonDrogon> the new BT's have 2 rotary encoders.
[18:25] <gordonDrogon> one of these days, I'll finish this: https://projects.drogon.net/pitrak/
[18:26] <ambro718> meh and clang is old (3.0). Is there a more recent build available?
[18:26] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: are you the WiringPi guy?
[18:26] <ambro718> seems that AddressSanitizer kind of supports ARM
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[18:30] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, yup.
[18:30] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: perhaps you can help me make GPIO interrupts work :) i've been using rpi.gpio but its event detection doesn't seem to work properly
[18:31] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, ah, interrupts. Hm. All my work is in C though...
[18:34] <ambro718> http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/gpio.txt
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[18:34] <ambro718> write to /sys/class/gpio/gpioN/edge to select the interrupt mode, and poll() on /sys/class/gpio/gpioN/value
[18:35] <ambro718> at least that's what the docs say, I've yet to try it out and figure out any missing details
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[18:35] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: hrm don't suppose you have any example code, just to check that my board actually works properly? actually how do i even know if my kernel has GPIO interrupts included?
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[18:38] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, that essentailly works. I've wrapped it into wiringPi.
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[18:38] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, all current kernels (since about June!) will have it.
[18:38] <gordonDrogon> if you fetch the wiringPi code; git clone git://git.drogon.net/wiringPi and look in examples/wfi.c then you'll see something.
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[18:39] <vorsaykal> mkdir -p ~/.vim/autoload ~/.vim/bundle; \
[18:39] <vorsaykal> curl -Sso ~/.vim/autoload/pathogen.vim \ https://raw.github.com/tpope/vim-pathogen/master/autoload/pathogen.vim
[18:39] <gordonDrogon> what I'm in the process of doing is simplifying it - a lot of people have issues with Linux - and want to "ISR" just like they'd do in ATmega or PIC worlds...
[18:39] <vorsaykal> clear
[18:39] <vorsaykal> cd .vim
[18:39] <vorsaykal> ls
[18:39] <vorsaykal> cd bu
[18:39] <vorsaykal> ls
[18:40] <vorsaykal> cd ..
[18:40] <vorsaykal> cd ..
[18:40] <vorsaykal> vim .vimr
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[18:40] <vorsaykal> kO
[18:40] <gordonDrogon> vorsaykal, huh?
[18:40] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: oh good. so i have the kernel. but i just tried to make wfi and got this: undefined reference to `pthread_create'
[18:40] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, yea, sorry. I've goofed with that release.
[18:41] <vorsaykal> kOcall pathogen#infect()wq
[18:41] <vorsaykal> ls
[18:41] <vorsaykal> cd .vim
[18:41] <vorsaykal> ls
[18:41] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, edit the Makefile in examples; change LDLIBS = -lwiringPi to LDLIBS = -lwiringPi -lpthread
[18:41] <vorsaykal> rmdir bun
[18:41] <vorsaykal> mkdir pathogen
[18:41] <vorsaykal> vim ~/.vimrc
[18:41] <gordonDrogon> vorsaykal, WHAT? You're C&Ping in the wrong place, I think...
[18:43] <rymate1234> right
[18:44] <rymate1234> attempting to move my rootfs to an external usb drive
[18:44] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: thanks, that did it. still don't get anything with my button connected to GPIO 0 though
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> several others have done this - I don't think it's too hard. Not something I fancy myself, but ...
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, do you have the right pin 0 ?
[18:45] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: GPIO 0 = pin 3 on the GPIO header, right?
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, er. yes on a Rev 1 Pi. that code uses BCM_GPIO numbers though, so 17 & 18.
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[18:47] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: it's using 17 & 18 as outputs, no?
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> ah, you're right. it's been a while :)
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> so pin 0 - do you have a rev 1 or rev 2 Pi ?
[18:48] <gordonDrogon> if you have a rev 2, you'll need to change the code to use pin 2 rather than 0.
[18:48] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: rev1. there is no pin 0 :) http://elinux.org/RPi_BCM2835_GPIOs
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[18:49] <gordonDrogon> BCM_GPIO_0 is one of the I2c pins.
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[18:49] <rymate1234> uhh
[18:49] <rymate1234> is this the right command?
[18:49] <rymate1234> dd if=/dev/mmcblk0p2 of=/dev/sda1 bs=4M
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/pins/
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> rymate1234, no.
[18:49] <rymate1234> ok
[18:50] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: why do i feel like i'm in "who's on first?"
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> rymate1234, well... maybe.
[18:50] <rymate1234> what command should I use?
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> rymate1234, if you 'dd' then it will do a block copy and there will be filing system errors, and the size will be fixed. minor things to fix though.
[18:51] <rymate1234> so I could just resize the partition right?
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> rymate1234, personally, I'd partition and format the drive - mkfs -t ext4 /dev/sda1, mount it: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt, then copy: cd / ; find . -xdev | cpio -pm /mnt
[18:51] <rymate1234> rught
[18:51] <rymate1234> right
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> that'll be faster too as it'll copy files rather than all the blocks.
[18:51] <rymate1234> ah
[18:52] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, yes, very few people are using the interrupts that I'm aware of - mostly because it's a fiddle to use.
[18:52] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, the pin you want on the edge conector is physical pin3. that's bcm_gpio 0 on a Rev 1, or bcm_gpio 2 on a rev 2.
[18:52] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, if you have a rev2, then you will need to change the 0 to 2 in the code.
[18:52] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: is your pin table for rev2? it doesn't match the one on the elinux wiki
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, it matches that table exactly - it's just different to read.
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> on my table, the grey column in the middle is the physical pins.
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> top-left is physical pin 1, or 3.3v.
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> the table on the wiki is not in physical location order.
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> my table is in physical connector location order.
[18:55] <gordonDrogon> so look at SDA0 in my table, it says BCM_GPIO pin 0 or 2, or that's the first row on the wiki table.
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[18:55] <gordonDrogon> atually, hat wiki table is rubbish. it's really hard to decode.
[18:55] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: i know but you have GPIO0 and SDA0 on different pins. actually i just noticed there are three different SDA0s. my brain hurts
[18:56] <gordonDrogon> *sigh* GPIO pin numbers will be the bane of my life )-:
[18:56] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, gpio0 in my world is the first normal usable gpio pin. it's bcm_gpio_17
[18:56] * IT_Sean suggests subscribing to the Plug and Pray oeprating standard. :p
[18:56] <gordonDrogon> the interrupts must use the bcm_pin numbers (for now)
[18:57] <gordonDrogon> so gpio edge 0 falling
[18:57] <gordonDrogon> uses bcm_gpio pin 0
[18:57] <gordonDrogon> which is physical pin 3 on the edge connector.
[18:57] <bcgrown> i like this one better: http://elinux.org/images/2/2a/GPIOs.png but really this is too much confusion to have before i've eaten breakfast
[18:58] <gordonDrogon> so connect a button from that pin to ground and run the program.
[18:58] <gordonDrogon> important question you've not answered though; do you have a rev 1 or rev 2 board?
[18:58] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: i have answered that, way back. rev1
[18:58] <gordonDrogon> ok, sorry.
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[18:58] <gordonDrogon> musts have missed it. gpio confusion. aagh!
[18:58] <bcgrown> lol
[18:59] <bcgrown> anyway i did connect my button to pin 3 of the header and no joy
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[19:00] <gordonDrogon> ok. lets make sure the button is working ok.
[19:00] <gordonDrogon> try this in a terminal: gpio -b mode 0 in ; gpio -g read 1
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> oops, gpio -g read 0
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> that ought to read 1 with the button open, and 0 when you push it.
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> that will test basic button operation.
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[19:01] <gordonDrogon> ugh. I'm goofing well tonight:
[19:02] <gordonDrogon> try this in a terminal: gpio -g mode 0 in ; gpio -g read 0
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[19:03] <frikinz> so even with a simple 2G USB key and nothing else connected, no network transfer, after several days I get usb resets :/
[19:04] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: doesn't work on 0. works on GPIO25. do you suppose that's because i have the I2C module loaded?
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[19:05] <Cf54> Hello, I try to configure Archlinux on my pi (downloaded from official website) to have static network IP. I folowed this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/Services#Static_Ethernet_network . Now, I have a static IP and I can connect to my pi with SSH, ping with IP works ( for example), but ping with domain name do not work (google.com). So I thing something is missing about DNS.
[19:06] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: i changed the pin to 25 in wfi.c, doesn't work with that euther
[19:06] <bcgrown> *either
[19:06] <Cf54> (I mean form raspberrypi.org website)
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[19:07] <frikinz> Cf54: did you set a dns nameserver?
[19:07] <UnaClocker> I don't understand why Linux newb's are using Arch.. Arch is for the elitist crowd.. Use Raspbian. It just works, and it's easy.
[19:08] <Cf54> frikinz: On the /etc/conf.d/network yes, but I see nothing about it on my /etc/systemd/system/network.service file
[19:08] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, ah. you should unload the i2c module, or use another pin.
[19:08] <frikinz> UnaClocker: agreed
[19:09] <Cf54> I tryed arch cause it takes less space than raspbian and I d'like to learn.
[19:09] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: i need the i2c module, but i tried another pin. works with the command line you gave but not in the example program
[19:09] <frikinz> less space? maybe because there are less software installed?
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[19:10] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, to use another pin you'll need to enable the internal pull-up.
[19:10] <Cf54> frikinz: I think so
[19:11] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: don't think so. i'm using a debouncer IC that gives 3.3V out and pulls the pin low when the button is pressed
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[19:11] <frikinz> Cf54: can't really help anyway, I'm running raspbian and wheezy
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[19:11] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, oh. well check it with gpio -g mode 25 in ; gpio -g read 25
[19:11] <gordonDrogon> on physical pin 22.
[19:11] <Cf54> I would like to configure the pi as print server with only a 2 GB SD card, I tryed with raspbian, but I was lacking space when updating
[19:12] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: i've been trying to tell you that worked :) but with wfi.c modified to use pin 25, no interrupt is detected
[19:12] <UnaClocker> There's a minimalist install of Raspbian.. But really, Raspbian barely uses 4gb of a 32gb card..
[19:12] <frikinz> Cf54: I have raspbian and its 600MB. I simply removed all what I didn't want: X, pythjon, games, ..
[19:13] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, sorry. doing a dozen other things here right now. Um. don't know.
[19:13] <frikinz> rootfs 661M 604M 24M 97% /
[19:13] <gordonDrogon> Cf54, yea, remove X and you'll save a lot.
[19:14] <Cf54> frikinz: Could be a good way, I do not need X nor games as I'm using only with ssh by now.
[19:14] <UnaClocker> I can't resist grabbing one of the $20 class 10 32gb SD cards every time I go to Fry's. ;)
[19:14] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, did you change BUTTON_PIN in the code as well as the system() function?
[19:14] <frikinz> Cf54: there's a nice tool IMO called debfoster2aptitude, it can help removing big packages/ big dependency pullers
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[19:15] <frikinz> Cf54: also deborphan, also dpkg-query --show --showformat='${Package;-50}\t${Installed-Size}\n' | sort -k 2 -n
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[19:17] <Cf54> frikinz: thanks, I check that.
[19:18] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: yes, but you hardcoded a digital read to pin 0 instead of using BUTTON_PIN. tsk tsk :P i also was having a hard time seeing what was actually happening with that 5s delay between counts
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[19:20] <Cf54> I found this where explained how to spare space (I do not need to make a new image, but instructions to remove X and others stufs are on it) http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/07/31/84-mb-minimal-raspbian-armhf-image-for-raspberry-pi/
[19:22] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: you're right though, interrupts do seem like a huge hassle.
[19:24] <frikinz> Yes, well a 84 7z image! not the same.. I've trimmed it on my pc and then shrinked fs and partitions and then installed this to my 1GB key.
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[19:28] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, yea, I know, I hardcoded it - that's what happens when you do things quickly for a demo!
[19:29] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, what I'm working on is a way to register a function that gets called-back when the interrupt happens - much like an ISR type of thing in a microcontroller.
[19:29] <gordonDrogon> but let's face it - a Pi running Linux is not really the best embedded uC out there...
[19:29] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: that would be very nice. as much as i hate to say it i'm about to say screw it and stick to polling my buttons :(
[19:30] <gordonDrogon> bcgrown, I don't blame you.
[19:30] <bcgrown> gordonDrogon: at least until someone does the hard work for me and makes interrupts work in python :)
[19:31] <pksato> interrupts on user lAnd?
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[19:31] <gordonDrogon> pksato, sort of, yes.
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[19:33] <pksato> first and last time that I used Int on user land, was in DOS. (turbo pascal)
[19:36] <frikinz> Have to write something about how I did my trimmed raspbian I think
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[19:39] <bcgrown> i need more jumper wires. sparkfun, hurry up and ship my order
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[19:43] <KiltedPi> Ah! Thats a question I have for someone in the know- I bought wiring and croc clips- but in the apparatus for my project theres a need for jumper wires!
[19:43] <KiltedPi> I wasn't even sure what they were!
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[19:43] <KiltedPi> bcgrown-
[19:43] <KiltedPi> I saw a thing in the magpi
[19:43] <KiltedPi> You can take an old IDE cable from a PC-
[19:44] <KiltedPi> And hack em into GPIO leads or something
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[19:44] <KiltedPi> it was in the 2rd edition i think
[19:44] <KiltedPi> 3rd*
[19:44] <artag> jumper wires are just short lengths of single core wire to poke into a breadboard. there's no need to buy special ones
[19:44] <KiltedPi> 3rd Ed
[19:44] <bcgrown> KiltedPi: if I still had an IDE cable lying around. but i don't have enough patience to cut up a 40pin connector :)
[19:44] <bcgrown> artag: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/9389
[19:44] <KiltedPi> Ah thanks artag
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[19:44] <bcgrown> artag: certainly no need, but these ones are sooo much nicer!
[19:45] <KiltedPi> I'm working w/o a breadboar
[19:45] <artag> ah, those are female ones that fit onto pins. they're more useful
[19:45] <KiltedPi> d
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[19:45] <bcgrown> artag: they have m/f and m/m ones too. they are all very handy
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[19:46] <artag> yeah, i don't really see the point of the m/m but the other combinations can come in handy
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[19:47] <bcgrown> solid core wire tends to break if you bend it too much. the m/m give a bit more solid of a connection and are easier to plug and unplug
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[19:47] <pycoderf> is it safe to run apt-get upgrade on raspbian?
[19:47] <bcgrown> yes
[19:47] <artag> but wire is practically free. just replace it when you've used it enough to make it weak.
[19:47] <bcgrown> artag: to each their own
[19:48] <artag> yup :)
[19:48] <bcgrown> i like having options
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[19:48] <pycoderf> alright, was just curious because for raspbmc is reccommended not to
[19:48] <bcgrown> pycoderf: why not?
[19:48] <pycoderf> i dont know
[19:48] <KiltedPi> heh
[19:48] <KiltedPi> If you cock up the card, you can always flash it
[19:48] <KiltedPi> :)
[19:48] <pycoderf> very true
[19:48] <KiltedPi> Just keep backups of your .py files
[19:49] <pycoderf> i wanted to turn my raspbmc install into a snes station too but that doesnt seem like it will work
[19:49] <rymate1234> well
[19:49] <KiltedPi> The only thing that bricks pi's really, -
[19:49] <KiltedPi> Sure you can pyco
[19:49] <KiltedPi> Just run an emulator
[19:49] <KiltedPi> Theres loads of free ones out there
[19:49] <pycoderf> yeah it doesnt have an easy way to launch one i found
[19:49] <rymate1234> my pi is running of a 16GB usb stick
[19:49] <frikinz> How could it be not recommended to do an apt-get upgrade o_O
[19:49] <pycoderf> frikinz: i dont know they threw a fit on their channel when asked about it
[19:49] <UnaClocker> RaspBMC is an embedded type implementation. It makes the Pi an appliance.. You don't need to do updates nearly as much on an appliance. It either works or it doesn't.. Raspbian is a distro.. Makes your Pi a PC.. You want to keep it up to date for best performance, security, and stability..
[19:49] <KiltedPi> Who did?
[19:50] <pycoderf> i dont know specifically
[19:50] <pycoderf> but any of you have experience with raspbmc?
[19:50] <KiltedPi> what channel pyco?
[19:50] <pycoderf> #raspbmc
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[19:50] <UnaClocker> I have 2 Pi setup as RaspBMC media centers..
[19:50] <pycoderf> UnaClocker: any experience running an emulator from it
[19:51] <KiltedPi> Its a good idea to find programs compatible with the wheezy distro, because Raspbian (As I understand it) is almost identical
[19:51] <molecule> hello. i'm attempting to set up SSH to my pi over USB, following networking config here, http://www.ponnuki.net/2012/09/kindleberry-pi/ , but it does not seem to work for me
[19:51] <UnaClocker> No, I only use it to watch video.
[19:51] <KiltedPi> So, if you find a SNES Emulator that works with Wheezy
[19:51] <KiltedPi> ...
[19:51] <KiltedPi> :)
[19:51] <molecule> (using raspbian)
[19:51] <pycoderf> i did find a couple i think but will check it out ont his new install once upgrade finishes
[19:52] <pycoderf> i wonder if i can just set raspbian to boot without the DE and launch the emulator right away
[19:52] <KiltedPi> Yeah
[19:52] <KiltedPi> BASH commands
[19:52] <bcgrown> pycoderf: raspi-config has an option to disable the desktop
[19:53] <pycoderf> yeah i know
[19:53] <pycoderf> thinking out loud
[19:53] <KiltedPi> heh
[19:53] <KiltedPi> good idea tho
[19:53] <KiltedPi> I'm learning alot about BASH#
[19:53] <KiltedPi> from this
[19:53] <rymate1234> so
[19:53] <KiltedPi> And electronics
[19:53] <KiltedPi> a bit of googling, and you'll be sorted pyco
[19:54] <rymate1234> now my pi rootfs is on a usb stick
[19:54] <rymate1234> I wonder how much faster a web server is
[19:54] <KiltedPi> Anyone else out there enjoying watching their kid with this, more than themselves? :D
[19:54] <pycoderf> yeah i know how to do it its no issue. wonderign will it be a better router than raspbmc since i hardly use it for anything
[19:54] <rymate1234> KiltedPi, no, as I haven't got a kid to watch
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[19:55] <KiltedPi> I'm going to have my kids build a housing out of lego for when they get their pi's
[19:55] <KiltedPi> So it feels like its theirs.
[19:55] <KiltedPi> I borrow my friends!
[19:55] <KiltedPi> (kid)
[19:55] <rymate1234> a case?
[19:55] <rymate1234> for aPi?
[19:55] <KiltedPi> My g/f runs- yeah! A housing
[19:55] <rymate1234> I leave mine naked :D
[19:55] <KiltedPi> Yeah?
[19:55] <KiltedPi> My g.f runs a youth project you see.
[19:56] <rymate1234> ah
[19:56] <KiltedPi> So i'm testing out what I'm going to do
[19:56] <KiltedPi> On my friends kid
[19:56] <KiltedPi> He's absolutely enthused
[19:57] <KiltedPi> We are building this: http://www.imagesco.com/robotics/owi535large.jpg
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[19:57] <KiltedPi> Its the OWI robotic arm.
[19:57] <rymate1234> cool!
[19:57] <KiltedPi> You can pick one up for about 30 quid.
[19:57] <KiltedPi> Dead simple assembly too
[19:57] <KiltedPi> Uses the GPIO header
[19:57] <UnaClocker> Those are cool, always wanted to get one.
[19:57] <rymate1234> not that I would have any use for a robotic arm
[19:58] <|Jeroen|> lol
[19:58] <KiltedPi> in the MagPI magazine-
[19:58] <|Jeroen|> u can use it to drink beer
[19:58] <KiltedPi> it suggests building a 'scutter'
[19:58] <KiltedPi> from red dwarf!
[19:58] <|Jeroen|> cool
[19:58] <KiltedPi> I'll tell you what though, guys-
[19:58] <KiltedPi> If you wanted to make money building pi electronics-
[19:59] <KiltedPi> there is a market for these "Time lapse tracks"
[19:59] <KiltedPi> For cameras
[19:59] <KiltedPi> they charge 700 odd quid for them, these rails with a bit of software compatible with cameras
[19:59] <KiltedPi> its scandalous!
[19:59] <rymate1234> you mean a webcam and a bash script that takes a photo every 10 seconds
[19:59] <rymate1234> lol
[20:00] <KiltedPi> hah yeah
[20:00] <rymate1234> price - depends on the webcam
[20:00] <KiltedPi> The compatibility with different cameras on the software-
[20:00] <KiltedPi> Thats how they get them, you see
[20:00] <KiltedPi> They are literally a bit of metal, like a workbench.
[20:00] <frikinz> sometimes I have the feeling qemu is non deterministic. a command segfaults and the second time it works :s
[20:00] <KiltedPi> And some software
[20:01] <KiltedPi> is qemu a linux based emulator
[20:02] <rymate1234> yes
[20:02] <KiltedPi> pyco was looking for an emulator for Raspbian he could get working easily
[20:02] <frikinz> it also runs on windows, probably mac
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[20:02] <rymate1234> KiltedPi, its not for games though
[20:02] <rymate1234> :P
[20:02] <UnaClocker> Yeah, I ran QEMU on the Mac like 5 years ago.. Moved on to Parallels since then..
[20:02] <rymate1234> Its for operating systems afaik
[20:02] <frikinz> also arm so can be used to run x86 on the raspi. in theory
[20:03] <rymate1234> and slowly
[20:03] <KiltedPi> Not for games>
[20:03] <KiltedPi> Heh
[20:03] <KiltedPi> What does it emulate? :S
[20:03] <frikinz> also bsd, sparc, ppc it seems
[20:03] <rymate1234> x86
[20:03] <rymate1234> so normal PC's
[20:03] <KiltedPi> oh!
[20:03] <KiltedPi> righto
[20:03] <frikinz> http://qemu.weilnetz.de/qemu-doc.html#intro_005ffeatures
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[20:04] <rymate1234> WELCOME
[20:04] <rymate1234> TO APT-GET UPGRADE
[20:05] <frikinz> Didn't know it can emulate Luminary Micro
[20:05] <rymate1234> Its...slow
[20:05] * KiltedPi apt-get's
[20:05] <rymate1234> well
[20:05] <rymate1234> the download was fine
[20:05] <rymate1234> its the actual updating bit
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[20:06] <frikinz> Apt-get doesn't use an elaborated database (to not depend on extra software) so its already slow. on a raspi.. its.. very slow.. even slower when your disk is slow :)
[20:06] <bcgrown> rymate1234: the pi isn't exactly a fast cpu
[20:06] <rymate1234> I know
[20:06] <rymate1234> :D
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[20:07] <rymate1234> its probably slow because I have a slow 16GB usb as my rootfs
[20:07] <UnaClocker> They'd have thought it was fast back in '97 or so..
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[20:07] <rymate1234> probably
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[20:08] <KiltedPi> You could FTP the file?
[20:08] <KiltedPi> Onto the pi
[20:08] <KiltedPi> I dunno
[20:08] <rymate1234> KiltedPi, the files are already there
[20:09] <gordonDrogon> using eatmydata with apt-get speeds things up considerably.
[20:09] <UnaClocker> Shoot, Q3 wasn't released till '99, and it took top of the line video cards to play it when it was released.. So the Pi being at '97 performance levels, with 2000+ level 3D graphics....
[20:09] <KiltedPi> Yeah, its about a 300MHZ pentium
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[20:10] <gordonDrogon> also leaves the SD card spectacularly crashed, should the Pi 'brown-out' during apt-get update/upgrade too!
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[20:20] <TomWij> Toothpick: pong!
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[20:20] <UnaClocker> pang!
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[20:23] <frikinz> Fell in dehydration while compiling the world
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[20:25] <ryankarason> what web browsers are people using with the pi?
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[20:28] <UnaClocker> I generally just stick with Midori.. Firefox (iceweasel) and chrome (chromium) are too heavy for it..
[20:29] <rymate1234> iceweasel seems ok for me
[20:29] <rymate1234> just needs xorg acceleration
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[20:31] <Torikun> Tabaliah:
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[20:31] <Torikun> Listening to you guys last night and updating my Arch Box ruined everything lol
[20:31] <axion> i use xombrero and elinks
[20:31] <Torikun> raspberry PI was stuck at the boot splash
[20:31] <gordonDrogon> I've used chromium - it was much better than midori.
[20:32] <gordonDrogon> didn't find it overly slow either.
[20:32] <axion> xombrero is lighter, more secure, and more featureful than midori
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[20:37] <Toothpick> TomWij: hey there :)
[20:37] <TomWij> hey
[20:38] <Toothpick> TomWij: i'm having problems configuring my xbmc still
[20:38] <TomWij> Oh... :(
[20:38] <Toothpick> TomWij: i think the config.log will interest you, do you want to have a look?
[20:38] <TomWij> Yes.
[20:39] <Toothpick> http://bpaste.net/show/67622/
[20:39] <Toothpick> TomWij: look at line 1753
[20:40] <TomWij> /usr/lib/gcc/armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi/4.5.4/../../../../armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld: cannot find -lGLESv2, -lbcm_host, -lvcos, -lvchiq_arm
[20:40] <TomWij> Fix ^ these first
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[20:42] <TomWij> 1753 is start of the check, 1754 is the command it executes to do that check, 1755-1758 are the errors, 1759 is a summary of the errors, 1761 is that it detects error code 1 was returned, then the failed test program source code follows and then 1875-1876 are the end of the check summarizing the result
[20:42] <TomWij> Toothpick: So, these errors are because -L/opt/vc/lib isn't used I think.
[20:42] <TomWij> configure:19792: armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi-gcc -o conftest -O2 -march=armv6j -mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=hard -fPIC -DPIC -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -g -D_DEBUG -Wall -Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed conftest.c -lgpg-error -L/usr/lib -lpython2.7 -lEGL -L/usr/lib -lpython2.7 -lEGL -lGLESv2 -lbcm_host -lvcos -lvchiq_arm >&5
[20:43] <frikinz> chromium, the browser that mass censored google's own twitpic. avoid like the plague. hate this mass censorship scripts.
[20:43] <TomWij> The libraries are present near the end, but -L/opt/vc/lib is missing.
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[20:44] <frikinz> I can take care of myself about malware website, don't need google to monitor my acts
[20:44] <Toothpick> TomWij: maybe -lGLESv2 -lbcm_host -lvcos -lvchiq_arm is missing?
[20:45] * frikinz watches xmms compiling since 30 minutes
[20:45] <Toothpick> TomWij: look at "ld: cannot find -lGLESv2" etc...
[20:45] <TomWij> Toothpick: I've pasted the whole line, they are at the end of it. -L/opt/vc/lib is missing
[20:45] <Toothpick> TomWij: how can i use it ?
[20:46] <TomWij> Give it to econf.
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[20:46] <TomWij> CFLAGS='-O2 -march=armv6j -mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=hard -fPIC -DPIC -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -g -D_DEBUG -Wall'
[20:46] <TomWij> CPPFLAGS=''
[20:46] <TomWij> CXXFLAGS='-O2 -march=armv6j -mfpu=vfp -mfloat-abi=hard -fPIC -DPIC -D_REENTRANT -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -g -D_DEBUG -Wall'
[20:47] <TomWij> LDFLAGS='-Wl,-O1 -Wl,--as-needed'
[20:47] <Torikun> TAFB_ssd: yo
[20:47] <mrmoney2012> grrr- config.txt keeps getting corrupted??? it looks like this on the last line ar^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@^@
[20:47] <TomWij> You can see that it doesn't pick them up.
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[20:47] <mrmoney2012> i edit - reboot and the corruption comes back - what gives ?
[20:48] <TomWij> mrmoney2012: Edit the file with a proper editor, save the file, perhaps twice. Then "sync" the SD card. Then "unmount" the SD card.
[20:48] <TomWij> Also, make sure the editor's mode is set right, you might want to stay away from UTF-8 / Unicode magic, plain-text / ASCII will do.
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[20:49] <Toothpick> TomWij: you mean like that? http://bpaste.net/show/67624/ (lines 190-195)
[20:49] <mrmoney2012> something strange ok - will try thanks.
[20:50] <TomWij> Toothpick: No, I've pasted to you what the configure saw, you'll want CFLAGS="${CFLAGS} -I/opt/vc/include -I/opt/vc/include/interface/vcos/pthreads/" CPPFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}" LDFLAGS="${LDFLAGS} -L/opt/vc/lib"
[20:51] <Toothpick> TomWij: how do i add it to the ebuild?
[20:51] <TomWij> in between econf and the first paramater.
[20:51] <TomWij> Toothpick: Well, like you just did but now use this instead. :P
[20:52] <mrmoney2012> trying edit (nano) - sync and now reboot.. will see
[20:52] <Kriss3d> Hm i just set up my RB-P with xbcm but for some reason i cant always connect to it unless i got a usb keyboard plugged in during boot
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[20:52] <Toothpick> TomWij: aha, you mean like that?
[20:52] <Toothpick> http://bpaste.net/show/67625/
[20:53] <gordonDrogon> wasn't the config.txt corruption something that's very old - well, old relatively - like 3-4 months ago?
[20:53] <TomWij> Toothpick: Much better! What did you have before this, nothing?
[20:53] <gordonDrogon> I've never experienced it myself, but I know some have..
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[20:53] <Toothpick> TomWij: yep, btw it says "ls: cannot access /opt/vc/lib: No such file or directory"
[20:54] <TomWij> Toothpick: You'll need raspberrypi-userland
[20:54] <mrmoney2012> grrrrrrr.
[20:54] <rymate1234> woot http://raspi.dyndns-blog.com/index.php
[20:55] <Toothpick> TomWij: what is it ?
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[20:55] <TomWij> Toothpick: It's in portage.
[20:56] <TomWij> media-libs category
[20:56] <TomWij> echo "media-libs/raspberrypi-userland **" >> /etc/portage/package.accept_keywords (and you might need it in /etc/portage/package.unmask as well)
[20:57] <Toothpick> TomWij: yes i see now, thanks very much :)
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[20:58] <TomWij> Toothpick: I've copied and renamed that ebuild with a -9999 extension to get the latest firmware instead.
[20:58] <TomWij> s/firmware/libraries/
[20:58] <TomWij> Dunno if you need the latest.
[21:03] <Toothpick> TomWij: it means more bugs lol
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[21:11] <rymate1234> guies
[21:11] <rymate1234> how slow is my blog
[21:11] <rymate1234> http://raspi.dyndns-blog.com/
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[21:14] <ambro718> where can I find the mapping of gpio pins as seen by the kernel to pins on the header?
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[21:14] <ambro718> e.g. /sys/class/gpio/gpio22 corresponds to pin8
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[21:16] <artag> http://elinux.org/RPi_BCM2835_GPIOs
[21:17] <ambro718> this says gpio22 is pin15, but it's definitely pin8, I have it working with pin8.
[21:17] <Kriss3d> Can anyone explain why Im not able to either ping nor remote control connect to my raspbmc unless ive got a USB keyboard connected and use that to look at the network info ?
[21:18] <ambro718> ah never mind, the header is numbered weird
[21:19] <artag> i think the header is numbered in wire-order (like ribbon cable) rather than like an IC
[21:19] <ambro718> never seen pins being numbered horizontalli instead of vertically lol
[21:19] <ambro718> ah I see
[21:20] <artag> people do IDC connectors both ways, but it does make sense
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[21:21] <hotwings> i see eben is finally going to pay someone to fix the rpi alsa driver :)
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[21:26] <TomWij> hotwings: What's wrong with the driver because it works?
[21:26] <Cf54> After how long waiting can I consider firmware update as a failure? (I have some error messages, but process is not finished)
[21:26] <ambro718> is the 5V power supply on the RPi enough for an RC servo (39x35x20mm size)?
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[21:27] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/pins/ the BCM_GPIO column is the ones mapped to the SoC.
[21:27] <hotwings> TomWij - unless ebens post on the alsa mailing list is a very early aprils fools prank, ........
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[21:27] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, just - the mini ones I have are 170mA each.
[21:27] <TomWij> hotwings: Link?
[21:28] <gordonDrogon> rymate1234, it's got a bit of latency, but usable - hosted on a pi?
[21:28] <TomWij> Toothpick: Not necessarily, it fluctuates over time. :D
[21:28] <rymate1234> yes
[21:28] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, the header is numbered the same way all headers like that are numbered - it's just the gpio pin numbers mapping(s) that are weird...
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[21:29] <ambro718> gordonDrogon: I see, I get it, http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals#General_Purpose_Input.2FOutput_.28GPIO.29 gives the mapping, I just had to figure out how the header is numbered :)
[21:29] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, pin 8 on the connector is one of the serial pins.
[21:30] <ambro718> gordonDrogon: Yes, I really meant pin15.
[21:30] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, physical pin 15 thats gpio 3 :)
[21:30] <gordonDrogon> there was a lot of confusion in the early days.
[21:31] <gordonDrogon> and there still is now.
[21:31] <hotwings> TomWij - http://mailman.alsa-project.org/pipermail/alsa-devel/2013-January/058136.html
[21:31] <gordonDrogon> I need to re-do that page of mine to make it easier at some point.
[21:32] <ambro718> it seems that gpio18 provides hardware PWM; how do I use that?
[21:32] <hotwings> like i said, ... unless that post is an early april fools prank... yes the rpi alsa driver still needs to be fixed and theyre finally going to pay someone to do it
[21:32] <hotwings> which is a good thing
[21:32] <TomWij> True, though it works fine in general.
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, yes, that's the hardware pwm pin.
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, if you're using wiringPi there are some standard functions to make it work.
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> I saw some real vitriol from someone who's part of the Debian project recently about the Pi. I was quite stunned when he emailled it.
[21:34] <ambro718> gordonDrogon: how do I use it from raw C code? I'm currently using the kernel sysfs interface to gpio.
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, you can't use the sysfs to program the PWM unfortunately.
[21:34] <ambro718> gordonDrogon: so, I need a kernel module? or what?
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, if you want to do it the hard way, then I suggest you pull a copy of wiringPi and look at the source code.
[21:35] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, no - wiringPi is a C library to poke the GPIO.
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[21:35] <ambro718> gordonDrogon: so it's not using the hardware PWM that seems to exist?
[21:35] <frikinz> gordonDrogon: do you perhaps still have a link about this debian project message?
[21:35] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, yes, it can use the hwardware PWM.
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[21:36] <ambro718> gordonDrogon: but you just said it pokes the gpio
[21:36] <rymate1234> Yay
[21:36] <rymate1234> http://raspi.dyndns-blog.com/index.php/my-internet-speed/
[21:36] <rymate1234> look at my terrible upload! :(
[21:36] <gordonDrogon> frikinz, I'll look it up - it was on a public mailing list. Admittedly it was part of a long rant (originating by me) about the use of the LUG website, etc. in the LUG I'm local to.
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[21:38] <frikinz> rymate1234: that's about what I have..
[21:38] <rymate1234> yay
[21:38] <gordonDrogon> frikinz, http://www.dcglug.org.uk/archive/2012/12/msg00463.html
[21:38] <gordonDrogon> imagine - someone on a Linux User Group whinging about the Pi.
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, ok, "pokes the gpio" is a but of an understatemnet.
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/
[21:39] <ambro718> gordonDrogon: ok thanks, taking a look
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, have you used arduino?
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[21:40] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, basically it tried to emulate a lot of the arduino type functions on the Pi.
[21:41] <ambro718> gordonDrogon: nope, I just programmed the AVRs in C. I like my stuff to be simple and not coupled with too many things, especially IDEs.
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, I don't use the arduino ide either..
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, but the wiring thing is 'handy' to keep things simple.
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[21:42] <ambro718> gordonDrogon: wiringPi.c seems to be using a hardware register or something? How can this run in user space?
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, you need to be root to run it.
[21:42] <ambro718> I don't like that.
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[21:43] <gordonDrogon> me neither, but that's the way it is for now.
[21:43] <ambro718> I'll do PWM in software for now.
[21:43] <gordonDrogon> you can use the gpio program that's part of wiring Pi and call that from userland. but it's setuid..
[21:43] <gordonDrogon> you'll not get successfull software PWM using the sys interface - it's just not fast enough.
[21:43] <frikinz> gordonDrogon: thank you for the link
[21:44] <ambro718> gordonDrogon: you mean the raw syscall and scheduling overhead is too much?
[21:44] <ambro718> I'm just doing write()
[21:44] <gordonDrogon> frikinz, it's an on-going series of frustrations I have to say - the keys of the devon LUG (domain, mailng list, web server) are not held by anyone living in Devon )-:
[21:45] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, yea, basically. you can speed it up by opening the files and keeping them open though - wiringPiSys mode dpes that.
[21:45] <ambro718> gordonDrogon: I open "value" once and keep the file descriptor. Why would I close it?
[21:45] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, others have in the past...
[21:45] <ambro718> ok lol
[21:46] <gordonDrogon> I think the early python drivers did...
[21:46] <gordonDrogon> so you can use the gpio program to export the pins, which does a chown on them to the calling user, then use the sys interface from a normal user program if needed.
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[21:46] <ambro718> yeah wrote that chown script already :P
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[21:47] <gordonDrogon> ambro718, and unless you run your program in a realtime schedulling mode with high priority you're going to get horrible jitter with softwarePWM too.
[21:47] <frikinz> gordonDrogon: I see .. looks hard. I share your idea of promoting this "unliked" architecture as there are so many users by now. Even if there are technical constraints, I feel it's in debian contract to help these users.
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[21:49] <gordonDrogon> frikinz, indeed. a million Pi's with what 90% running Debian/Raspbian (or more?)
[21:49] <fuzz1981> hey .. can anyone help on using a GPIO pin as an interrupt for a kernel driver? I've ported in Invensense MPU6050 IIO driver from google tegra tree
[21:49] <artag> I don't see that it matters if it's liked or not. It's a cheap, widely available platform that can allow userland stuff that's above what can be done with an arduino.
[21:49] <KiltedPi> sorry fuzz. no idea
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[21:50] <artag> when it gets old, it will be pretty straightforward to move onto another platform
[21:50] <KiltedPi> I know the words you used fuzz, but not in the order you used them! :S
[21:50] <fuzz1981> hehe
[21:51] <KiltedPi> has anyone hooked their tablet up as a display for their pi yet?
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[21:51] <frikinz> Doesn't it come from the much different instruction set and FP handling on the armv6? or thumb version? I don't know much about arm arch and it seems complex, very different species..
[21:51] <frikinz> Which would explain why debian only supports >= armv7 ?
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[21:52] <KiltedPi> The support for Arduino assumes too much I have found
[21:52] <KiltedPi> I prefer to be treated like an idiot.
[21:52] <KiltedPi> :)
[21:53] <frikinz> Nevertheless, I think we are close to a debian system. I see much packages available on raspbian, even -dev ones. Its a pleasure
[21:53] <rymate1234> I thought they were all avaliable
[21:53] <fuzz1981> for the most part
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[21:54] <rymate1234> All I feel the Pi needs is accelerated Xorg
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[21:54] <frikinz> Better usb for me..
[21:54] <KiltedPi> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=WOJfUcCOhJ0 <----- If you know any young girl programmers, let them watch this video. I found it very entertaining.
[21:54] <fuzz1981> +1 USB
[21:55] <rymate1234> usb seems fine for me
[21:56] <rymate1234> everything I've plugged into it worked
[21:56] <fuzz1981> hopefully it can mostly be fixed in software .. i really find that 3.6.11 has better USB .. wifi had a lot of random latencies before i updated yesterday
[21:56] <rymate1234> (a keyboard, a mouse, usb memory stick, and wifi)
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[21:56] <rymate1234> fuzz1981, afaik most of it will be software
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[21:56] <artag> i did try to run multiple usb sound cards a while back, and it wouldn't. not sure if things have changed since - I should re-test
[21:57] <fuzz1981> nope, the USB IP in the broadcom is a USBOTG device .. not really meant as a host device and it requires a LOT of CPU intervention
[21:57] <rymate1234> oh :(
[21:57] <fuzz1981> cat /proc/interrupts
[21:58] <frikinz> 3.6.11 mmhhh ?
[21:58] <gordonDrogon> the Pi "needs" lots of stuff, but actually, it's OK as it is - it's not a general purpose desktop replacement though.
[21:58] * frikinz looks at its apt-get
[21:58] <fuzz1981> i'll never run X on a pi
[21:58] <gordonDrogon> I'm actually editing, compiling directly on it for my projects (via ssh) and it's fine.
[21:58] <rymate1234> until it gets accelerated
[21:58] <frikinz> Yes its ok but I can't run it for more than a week of uptime :/
[21:58] <frikinz> Also no X for me
[21:58] <gordonDrogon> not big projects, but ...
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[21:59] <fuzz1981> i'm ssh'd into one on a lego mindstorms nxt in this irc session lol
[21:59] <gordonDrogon> frikinz, why no longer than a week?
[21:59] <KiltedPi> its a learning platform. Theres no denying that hah
[21:59] <KiltedPi> whats that fuzz?
[21:59] <KiltedPi> heh
[21:59] <KiltedPi> Lego Mindstorm? Does it use GPIO?
[21:59] <frikinz> gordonDrogon: no idea, USB reset happens. My / is on a 2G usb key, I'm scared with OC and SD (dunno if I should)
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[22:00] <fuzz1981> etched a PCB that carries the RPI and a MPU6050 i2c breakout board and has lego attachments
[22:00] <fuzz1981> no the mindstorm nxt brick has USB and RS485
[22:00] <frikinz> gordonDrogon: I have a software that does a 1Hz acquisition of all gpio. and shows it on a small webserver. It sometimes dies no idea why
[22:00] <fuzz1981> so i just have RPI connected to NXT with USB
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[22:01] <fuzz1981> LiPo battery pack to power the pi
[22:01] <frikinz> So that's 8 millions acquisitions before it dies.. roughly :)
[22:02] <KiltedPi> I'm not familiar with NXT or lego stuff
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[22:02] <fuzz1981> NXT is a fun platform
[22:02] <KiltedPi> Although, I had my kid build a housing for his pi out of lego!
[22:02] <KiltedPi> Just regular lego though
[22:02] <fuzz1981> basic kit comes with 3 servos, two touch sensors, an ultrasonic and an RGB sensors
[22:03] <gordonDrogon> frikinz, Hm. yea, might be something there... I've no issues with the SD right now though - I'd be more woried about knocking out a USB stick! But I have stopped overclocking - I think the PSU gets spiked when the overclock kicks in, but I don't have a lot to back it up.
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[22:03] <fuzz1981> a ton of pieces, wheels, treads, a few gears, and the NXT brick (ARM computer, LCD screen, some buttons, battery enclosure, RJ12 connections to connect to motors and sensors)
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[22:03] <fuzz1981> has bluetooth and usb connections to the world
[22:04] <biberao> yo
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[22:05] <frikinz> gordonDrogon: yes could be. I have nothing to monitor currents. As the pi dies by itself (only a ssh connection to it, idle), the only thing it could be is a cron. I'm slightly thinking about going back to SD since today, as it died again. Last time I had a complete kernel lockup on bcm2807.ko (or something).
[22:05] <frikinz> Just not confident for a professionnal project
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[22:09] <frikinz> which it's not meant for
[22:10] <gordonDrogon> and yet people are... integrating Pi's into all sorts of things now.
[22:10] <artag> anybody else running one for long periods ?
[22:10] <gordonDrogon> I'm involved with 2 such projects too - which is exciting, but a little daunting :)
[22:11] <gordonDrogon> I tend to reboot mine regularly though. current uptime is almost 4 days - I did a big update/upgrade then.
[22:12] <artag> i'm on a home automation project. no need to use a pi, but someone wants to (and it should be fine). but I don't feel it's had enough bedding-in time yet
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> yea, difficult to say.
[22:13] <fuzz1981> hrm where's a kernel maintainer when you need one? :)
[22:13] <artag> i'm more inclined to use a router wth openwrt
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> I'm fronting one of my projects with an atmega board though.
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[22:13] <artag> frikinz: are you using the watchdog ?
[22:13] <Spiffy> Folder is chowned to USER1:GROUP - but USER2 who is a member of GROUP can't access it
[22:14] <Spiffy> Permissions are 770 on the folder
[22:14] <Spiffy> why, oh why can't USER2 access it?
[22:14] <frikinz> artag: not manually. something _wtd? _wdt?
[22:14] <frikinz> is there a watchdog? I mean. A real watchdog? :)
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[22:14] <artag> well, I think it's just a gpu function.
[22:15] <artag> i don't count it as a real watchdog unless it generates a hard reset or even a power cycle
[22:15] <cdan_> gordonDrogon: you might also be interested in this post too: http://scummos.blogspot.ro/2012/11/raspberry-pi-i2c-and-repeated-start.html
[22:15] <cdan_> gordonDrogon: there is a snapshot of the scope too
[22:15] <artag> http://pi.gadgetoid.co.uk/post/001-who-watches-the-watcher
[22:16] <frikinz> i don't count sw watchdogs as real watchdog. On the gpu, it could be ok. A cpu reset should be sufficient but.. depends on the cpu..
[22:17] <artag> it's more than a kernel watchdog. it's described as hardware but i don't really know how much of the hardware is actually firmward
[22:17] <artag> firmware
[22:17] <artag> but it would be interesting to know if it recovers your fault
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[22:19] <frikinz> I just don't want a fault if the pi has only an idle connection to it, no one on the webserver and "simply" doing cyclic acquisitions. Also I don't think the acquisition causes the problem as I get them on the usb (?). Actually, I'll stop the acquisition to see the uptime. Answer in 5 days :)
[22:20] <frikinz> idle *ssh connection
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[22:21] <artag> i agree, resets should be explainable. but i'd use a watchdog even if I believed it never broke ..
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[22:25] <viric> gordonDrogon: the 'nice' works perfect on the sheevaplug, armv5tel
[22:25] <viric> gordonDrogon: oh wait, 3.6 works fine in the pi :)
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[22:28] <frikinz> Where is this 3.6 kernel? Is it upgradable or its git or I need a new img?
[22:28] <frikinz> Can I haz 3.6? :)
[22:28] <viric> mh I think I built it from the github repository
[22:29] <viric> there is a branch 3.6x or so
[22:30] <fuzz1981> rpi-update will install 3.6.11
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[22:31] <fuzz1981> and the tree is: https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux
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[22:34] <Cf54> rpi-update is running since 40 minute How much time could it take?
[22:35] <fuzz1981> only took a couple minutes for me
[22:36] <mumbles> i still cant get my card to format fully
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[22:37] <Cf54> The firmware is updated on the pi's hardware, so it should be quite the same time for everybody no? (reading speed may inpact, but No so much I think).
[22:38] <mumbles> Cf54: mine took a while. dident check how long though
[22:38] <Cf54> Is it hamfull if I interupt the process?
[22:39] <Cf54> (50 minutes now)
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[22:40] <artag> i've always found rpi-update unreliable. I've just used apt-get for a long time now.
[22:40] <artag> I did just try it, and it printed it's banner twice :
[22:40] <artag> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ sudo rpi-update
[22:40] <artag> Raspberry Pi firmware updater by Hexxeh, enhanced by AndrewS
[22:40] <artag> Performing self-update
[22:40] <artag> Raspberry Pi firmware updater by Hexxeh, enhanced by AndrewS
[22:40] <artag> Performing self-update
[22:41] <artag> ARM/GPU split is now defined in /boot/config.txt using the gpu_mem option!
[22:41] <artag> Downloading specific firmware revision (this will take a few minutes)
[22:41] <artag> after rebooting, kernel was still 3.2.27+ #250
[22:41] <mumbles> actally the last one i did was a apt-get update
[22:41] <mumbles> before my sd card crashed
[22:41] <artag> just trying it again and it's taking longer ..
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[22:42] <Hexxeh> i'd imagine it'd the result of some poorly reviewed pull requests over the holidays actually...
[22:42] <frikinz> Cf54: you could have a look at ps auxwwwf to have a hint where it is now
[22:43] <TomWij> artag: It's a "firmware" updater, kernel != firmware.
[22:43] <Hexxeh> TomWij: it should still update the kernel
[22:43] <artag> it does do that - I thought it did the lot. sorry if i'm wrong. Hexxeh ?
[22:43] <TomWij> No, it shouldn't, otherwise it should be called a "Raspberry Pi firmware and kernel updater"
[22:43] <Hexxeh> it does, yep
[22:43] <Cf54> Oh, A step has been done, but still not finished
[22:44] <Hexxeh> TomWij: probably, but at the time i wrote it, it was just because i was hacking on OS images and wanted a fast way to install an rpi kernel/fw to a disk
[22:44] <TomWij> because obviously, knowledgeable people would expect that updater not to overwrite their custom kernel.
[22:44] <Hexxeh> there is an option to skip the kernel update
[22:44] <Hexxeh> SKIP_KERNEL=1
[22:44] <artag> i think knowledgable people would read the script :)
[22:44] <Hexxeh> it's in the README, too
[22:45] <Cf54> (ARM/GPU split is now defined in /boot/config.txt using the gpu_mem option!
[22:45] <Cf54> Updating firmware (this will take a few minutes)
[22:45] <Cf54> http://jartsa.awardspace.com/apt-management.html
[22:45] <Cf54> has been wrote)
[22:48] <TomWij> artag: Nah, they would have already updated their firmware before reaching the script.
[22:48] <fuzz1981> Hexxeh: do you work on the kernel?
[22:48] <Cf54> frikinz: what is "ps auxwwwf" ?
[22:48] <Hexxeh> fuzz1981: no
[22:49] <TomWij> Cf54: What are man pages?
[22:49] <fuzz1981> do you know who does? :) would like some help with gpio interrupts in kernel .. porting in Invensense MPU6050 driver
[22:50] <Cf54> TomWij: Explanations pages about commands (man => manual) as I understood
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[22:51] <TomWij> Just do some searches in them (/-a /-u /-x /-w /-f) and it'll outline what each option does.
[22:52] <TomWij> fuzz1981: #kernel, though it's low-traffic, maybe inspect an existing other driver or attempt to find online documentation on how to do it?
[22:52] <Hexxeh> fuzz1981: popcornmix on github
[22:52] <Hexxeh> depends if you want someone pi-specific
[22:52] <Hexxeh> if not, then #kernel or mailing lists are a better bet really
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[22:52] <fuzz1981> yeah i just can't see how to contact someone on github :) it's bcm2708 specific
[22:52] <TomWij> Yeah, though I guess Pi-specific is covered by specifications.
[22:53] <Hexxeh> fuzz1981: on the forums, try PMing dom
[22:53] <fuzz1981> which forums?
[22:53] <Hexxeh> there's also a kernel forum
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[22:55] <Cf54> TomWij: So ps shows process, and auxwwf is some kind of filter?
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[22:55] <TomWij> Cf54: Yes `ps` is "process snapshot", so it gives a snapshot of the list of processes running.
[22:56] <TomWij> And the others manipulate the output, which can be adding extra information, changing the style of the information, filtering information or rem
[22:57] <TomWij> -oving information.
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[22:57] <TomWij> Or some things along those lines.
[22:59] <mumbles> ok i have an 8gb sd card that wont format useing sdcard formatter under windows 7 or gparted in ubuntu
[22:59] <mumbles> any ideas ?
[23:00] <pksato> mumbles: a bad sd card?
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[23:01] <artag> Cf54: min just completed. it took 20 minutes
[23:02] <artag> and it updated both firmware and kernel this time
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[23:03] <Cf54> 1h10m, first time I done it, I used the 'sudo rpi-update' command without options
[23:04] <Cf54> (still not finished)
[23:04] <pksato> Cf54: have network activity?
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[23:05] <Cf54> Just this IRC chat
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[23:05] <artag> it spent a lot of time doing git index-pack. I have run it on this card before, but a while ago. The time might be related to how many changes it has to fetch
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[23:06] <mumbles> pksato: its working up to a point.
[23:06] <mumbles> it shows up as a 56mb partition
[23:06] <akulbe> was there a specific channel already for running XBMC on the rPi?
[23:07] <pksato> mumbles: on ubuntu, wipe all SD using dd if=/dev/zero or badblocks.
[23:08] <pksato> Cf54: and. what last message printed?
[23:08] <Cf54> pksato: sudo rpi-update
[23:08] <Cf54> Raspberry Pi firmware updater by Hexxeh, enhanced by AndrewS
[23:08] <Cf54> Performing self-update
[23:08] <Cf54> ARM/GPU split is now defined in /boot/config.txt using the gpu_mem option!
[23:08] <Cf54> Updating firmware (this will take a few minutes)
[23:08] <Cf54> http://jartsa.awardspace.com/apt-management.html
[23:09] <Cf54> Url at the end is a mistake
[23:10] <artag> Cf54: try 'ps aux | grep git'
[23:11] <Cf54> Processor os 0.0, mem is between 0.1 and 0.5 (different processes)
[23:11] <Cf54> Processes are about the firmware
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[23:12] <Cf54> (3 root process about this firmware, 1 user process about the querry)
[23:12] <artag> i was wondering if the last numeric column, cpu time, was increasing
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[23:13] <Cf54> start 20:51, time 0:0
[23:14] <artag> 0:0 doesn't sound like it's doing anything
[23:14] <Cf54> (It is 23:14 in my local time)
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[23:14] <artag> probably stuck trying to get files
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[23:15] <pksato> Cf54: cancel it.
[23:16] <pksato> ctrl+c
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[23:16] <Torikun> TAFB_ssd: how much ram did you save by disabling syslog
[23:16] <Cf54> My raspberry time is One hour less than my computer time, so for my raspberry, it is 22:16)
[23:16] <Cf54> root 12661 0.0 0.2 3872 1320 pts/0 S+ 20:51 0:00 git --git-dir=//root/.rpi-firmware/.git --work-tree=//root/.rpi-firmware fetch --quiet
[23:16] <Cf54> root 12662 0.0 0.5 16744 2308 pts/0 S+ 20:51 0:00 git-remote-http origin http://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware.git
[23:16] <Cf54> root 12667 0.0 0.2 36504 1184 pts/0 S+ 20:51 0:00 git fetch-pack --stateless-rpc --stdin --lock-pack --include-tag --thin --no-progress http://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware.git/
[23:17] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: about 2mb and 0.4% cpu use.
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[23:17] <Torikun> oh lol
[23:17] * Torikun generate a new DD backup of my raspberrypi
[23:19] <Cf54> pksato: And I try to install it with the SKIP_KERNEL=1 option?
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[23:19] <pksato> git stuck, waiting some event.
[23:19] <pksato> Cf54: NO.
[23:20] <pksato> Cf54: internet on rpi is working?
[23:21] <Cf54> pksato: yes, apt-get update and upgrade works
[23:21] <artag> can you ping github.com ?
[23:21] <pksato> try this wget -O /dev/null http://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-firmware.git/
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[23:22] <Cf54> artag: yes, about 100ms response time
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[23:22] <Cf54> pksato: downloaded
[23:23] <frikinz> what is your uptime? uptime
[23:23] <akulbe> does using the rPi for XBMC require that you have the codec licenses?
[23:23] <Cf54> uptime
[23:23] <Cf54> sorry
[23:23] <frikinz> load average
[23:23] <mdszy_> akulbe, only if you use those codecs
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[23:23] <frikinz> Cf54: the 3 numbers
[23:24] <Cf54> 22:23:30 up 3:26, 2 users, load average: 0.04, 0.03, 0.05
[23:24] <frikinz> oh ok. not working then
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[23:24] <frikinz> I mean, not doing anything
[23:24] <pksato> Cf54: date of /boot/start.elf ? ls -l /boot/start.elf
[23:25] <Cf54> Yes, I've just killed the process as pksato adviced
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[23:25] <Cf54> Dec 31 22:07
[23:26] <akulbe> mdszy_: are you using your rPi for XBMC?
[23:26] <Cf54> so yesterday
[23:26] <mdszy_> akulbe, not too much, but I have messed with it a little
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[23:28] <pksato> Cf54: vcgencmd version (last line)
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[23:29] <Cf54> vcgencmd: command not found
[23:29] <pksato> sudo vcgencmd version
[23:29] <Cf54> Same
[23:29] <frikinz> you're running arch?
[23:30] <Cf54> No, raspbian
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[23:30] <linuxstb> /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd version
[23:30] <akulbe> mdszy_: if you add a video source, how are you supposed to watch stuff? I'm going through add-ons and I expect to be able to see something, and nothing shows up
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[23:30] <mdszy_> akulbe, what video source do you mean?
[23:31] <Cf54> I just tested uname -a
[23:31] <Cf54> Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #346 PREEMPT Fri Dec 28 00:50:33 GMT 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
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[23:31] <Cf54> Isn't it the last one?
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[23:31] <akulbe> mdszy_: Video > Add-ons
[23:31] <akulbe> mdszy_: and I added TheOnion.com
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[23:31] <pksato> Cf54: I think so.
[23:31] <mdszy_> akulbe, then it'll show up under the main video screen somewhere, can't quite remember where
[23:31] <Cf54> So update did not finished but the number as been upgraded?
[23:31] <akulbe> mdszy_: I just want to see *SOMETHING* to show me that this dam thing works
[23:32] <mdszy_> goodness, calm down, look around a bit!
[23:32] <Cf54> I do not have /opt anymore
[23:32] <mdszy_> make sure that the addon installed and everything, akulbe
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[23:33] <pksato> Cf54: you run rpi-update before? (other day)
[23:33] <akulbe> mdszy_: been looking around for 30+ minutes. Nothing.
[23:33] <akulbe> mdszy_: that's why I'm frustrated
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[23:33] <mdszy_> akulbe, try installing a different addon, maybe that one's broken. Try the Vimeo one.
[23:34] <Cf54> I done some cleaning I found there http://www.cnx-software.com/2012/07/31/84-mb-minimal-raspbian-armhf-image-for-raspberry-pi/ (not all), and one was about cleaning /opt
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[23:34] <Cf54> pksato: yes, yesterday (and some weeks ago)
[23:34] <pksato> and, removed user full tools from broadcom.
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[23:35] <akulbe> mdszy_: no luck with Vimeo, either
[23:36] <mdszy_> akulbe, I dunno what to tell you
[23:36] <Cf54> pksato: So there are more than code sample in this /opt/ dirrectory?
[23:36] <akulbe> mdszy_: thanks man
[23:36] <akulbe> mdszy_: I appreciate you answering questions, in any case. :)
[23:37] <mdszy_> np
[23:37] <pksato> Cf54: tools like vcgencmd and tvservice
[23:37] <Cf54> pksato: Tool tha are necessary to process the firmware update?
[23:37] <pksato> Cf54: and, firmware and kernel are updated.
[23:38] <linuxstb> Cf54: /opt also contains the include files and libraries if you want to build any programs that use the GPU
[23:38] <pksato> Cf54: No. but usefull to check some things.
[23:38] <pksato> openmax libs?
[23:38] <pksato> egl
[23:39] <linuxstb> Yes, all of those things.
[23:39] <pksato> all BCM related, and no full open.
[23:40] <Cf54> I remove this dev tools (lacking space with only 2GB), fore more programming, I will use my computer or a better SD card
[23:40] <pksato> 35MB on /opt
[23:41] <mumbles> pksato: still not working
[23:41] <pksato> mumbles: but, that you do?
[23:41] <mumbles> yeh
[23:41] <mumbles> fdisk -l brings up the sd card
[23:42] <mumbles> fdisk /dev/sdb messes up
[23:42] <mumbles> well you will not be able to write the partition table
[23:42] <pksato> messes up
[23:42] <pksato> ?
[23:42] <mumbles> should of said shows that error
[23:43] <pksato> put fdisk -l on some past site
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[23:47] <Torikun> TAFB_ssd: after turning logging off it is about a second faster
[23:47] <Torikun> The PI status page was 2 seconds faster
[23:47] <Torikun> Drupal was 1 second faster
[23:48] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: wow, that is an insane difference!
[23:48] <Torikun> Yeah
[23:48] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: add all that ish to your blog
[23:48] <Torikun> http://rusher81572.com/pi/
[23:48] <Torikun> Yup
[23:48] <Torikun> I lost my benchmarks since I had to restore my sd card lol
[23:48] <Torikun> for apache
[23:48] <TAFB_ssd> Torikun: that status page loads WAY faster! lol
[23:49] <Torikun> I know!
[23:49] <Torikun> Thanks for telling me about it!
[23:49] <TAFB_ssd> no probs. Frig, you can read the CPU temp on Arch?!?
[23:49] <TAFB_ssd> gotta figure out how to do that on my seagate box :(
[23:49] <UnaClocker> Figure out a kernel update?
[23:50] <TAFB_ssd> Who me? I have new kernels :) http://tafb.yi.org
[23:50] <TAFB_ssd> i Just dunno how to get CPU temp
[23:50] <TAFB_ssd> no vgencmd
[23:50] <frikinz> isn't it provided in /sys ?
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[23:51] <frikinz> find / sys -name temp | xargs cat
[23:51] <frikinz> roughly :)
[23:51] <UnaClocker> Cool. :)
[23:51] <frikinz> find /sys -name temp | xargs cat
[23:51] <TAFB_ssd> nothin
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[23:52] <TAFB_ssd> http://pastie.org/pastes/5608043/text
[23:52] <TAFB_ssd> ^^ my /sys
[23:52] <mumbles> pksato: http://pastebin.com/Asq07r6Z
[23:54] <frikinz> TAFB_ssd: zgrep BCM /proc/config.gz ? I have CONFIG_THERMAL_BCM2835=y
[23:54] <pksato> mumbles: a blank SD.
[23:54] <TAFB_ssd> frikinz: http://pastie.org/pastes/5608050/text
[23:54] <pksato> 8GB SD
[23:55] <mumbles> ack.
[23:55] <mumbles> forgotten i sapped over to the other one
[23:56] <gordonDrogon> anyone know of some free pastebin-like software? (for hosting my own)
[23:56] <mdszy_> gordonDrogon, it'd be pretty trivial to write one yourself
[23:57] <gordonDrogon> mdszy_, I know - I'm just being lazy!
[23:57] <mdszy_> lol
[23:57] <mumbles> pksato: http://pastebin.com/AzgRyjQb is the dodgy one
[23:57] <gordonDrogon> same for my url 'shortener'
[23:57] <pksato> gordonDrogon: http://freecode.com/
[23:57] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[23:58] <gordonDrogon> hm. wonder if there's a wordpress plugin..
[23:59] <pksato> mumbles: 4GB sd with one 58MB fat32 partition.
[23:59] <mumbles> pksato: yeh thats the one that i cant format
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