#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-01-04

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

[0:01] <pycoderf> do you all know if i setup an irc server does it log the chats
[0:02] <vorsaykal> ShiftPlusOne: Wow. Berryboot looks like it'll do the trick. Thanks!
[0:02] <ShiftPlusOne> have fun
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[0:12] <mumbles> http://john.edmondson-uk.com/raspberry-pi
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[0:40] <frikinz> FrankBlues: crossfader works. no more popping between songs for me.
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[0:46] <vorsaykal> I severely misworded my last question, so what I actually meant was: Is it possible to boot into Rasbian and replace Rasbian with Arch Linux while mid boot?
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[0:48] <pksato> vorsaykal: short response, no.
[0:49] <vorsaykal> pksato: What would be the limitations?
[0:50] <pksato> or, you sd have a empty space?
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[0:51] <vorsaykal> My SD has Rasbian installed, and I'd like to replace it with Arch Linux. My thought was get a working environment mounted in RAM, chroot and attempt to dd from the chroot, but I wasn't sure if there were any limitations I was missing.
[0:51] <vorsaykal> Normally I'd just go for it, but I don't have any way of fixing the SD if I bork it.
[0:52] <pksato> memory.
[0:52] <dr_willis> That berryboot lets you install to usb drives. :) may be a easier idea
[0:53] <pksato> need some place to store arch .img (2GB)
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[0:53] <vorsaykal> I have a USB available.
[0:53] <vorsaykal> So I could store it there.
[0:53] <pksato> and, boot raspbian on ro mode.
[0:53] <vorsaykal> ro mode?
[0:53] <pksato> read only.
[0:54] <vorsaykal> Oh.
[0:54] <pksato> more easy to use other computer.
[0:57] <vorsaykal> My SD-to-USB is really strange and I've been having tons of problems. I am unable to do anything with it. If I do 'fdisk -l /dev/sdb', the terminal hangs for 30 seconds (can't CTRL+C) and then it says 'no medium found'.
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[0:58] <pksato> bad sd card.
[0:58] <Datalink> is the USB SDcard reader showing up as /dev/sdb?
[0:58] <vorsaykal> Yeah.
[0:58] <vorsaykal> dmesg says so.
[0:58] <Datalink> is the SD card a known good?
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[0:58] <pycoderf> does anyone know if ircd on the pi stores chat logs?
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[0:59] <vorsaykal> I'm running Rasbian of it just fine, and I tried putting my MicroSD in a Micro-to-SD thing and insert it into my SD-to-USB and that one didn't work either.
[1:00] <Datalink> read/write bit set right? some devices care, others ignore it, can cause intermittent errors
[1:00] <Datalink> I have one SD card that doesn't have it wired up
[1:00] <pycoderf> how long do cd cards usually last? i rewrte the image on a couple of mine multiple times today
[1:01] <vorsaykal> http://superuser.com/questions/159602/max-read-writes-to-an-sd-card
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[1:02] <vorsaykal> Accepted answer's quote is great.
[1:03] <vorsaykal> Datalink: What do you mean by the read/write bit? The physical switch on the SD?
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[1:04] <Datalink> yes
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[1:04] <vorsaykal> It's in the correct position.
[1:05] <Datalink> solid contact?
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[1:06] <vorsaykal> Yup. When I plug it in, GNOME auto mounts it, I just can't seem to do it manually.
[1:06] <vorsaykal> Well, when I plug the FAT formatted one in, it does.
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[1:07] <vorsaykal> The Rasbian one doesn't auto mount. But I can't manually mount or list partitions on either.
[1:07] <pksato> clean the eletric contacts of the reader. And card.
[1:07] <chithead> try putting a powered hub in between to exclude any power issues
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[1:08] <vorsaykal> I have no powered hub to test with.
[1:08] <pksato> use a piece of paper with alcohol.
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[1:09] <vorsaykal> The SD card is clean. I've had it less than a week. I also don't see why GNOME can mount it fine but I can't.
[1:09] <vorsaykal> Windows mounts the FAT one too.
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[1:10] <mumbles> vorsaykal: i had a problme with a sdhc card the other day had to use a newer adaptor
[1:10] <pksato> vorsaykal: disable auto mount.
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[1:11] <vorsaykal> pksato: All right. I'll give that a try.
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[1:17] <vorsaykal> I can mount it. The auto mount was messing with it. Thanks.
[1:18] <vorsaykal> I figured hitting eject would be enough, but I guess not.
[1:19] <pycoderf> resizing rootfs should take awhile right?
[1:22] <pksato> eject really eject the card.
[1:23] <pksato> pycoderf: some time.
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[1:23] <pycoderf> pksato: alright it is a 16gb card so its taking awhile
[1:24] <vorsaykal> I can mount and list partitions of my FAT formatted card, but I'm unable to do that for my Raspbian SD. It still boots fine, though. =S
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[1:26] <vorsaykal> Does the pre-imaged SD card use any filesystem types that my kernel may not support, or something along those lines?
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[1:27] <vorsaykal> Nevermind, I can check that.
[1:27] <gordonDrogon> well that's a touchscreen touched and sorted.
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[1:28] <pycoderf> how long should i be waiting on this
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[1:36] <gordonDrogon> on what?
[1:36] <gordonDrogon> resizing a 16G SD card... 5 muntes?
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[1:37] <gordonDrogon> vorsaykal, the raspbian image supports fat & the usual Linux file systems..
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[1:38] <dr_willis> resizeing here. just a few mome ts. 32gb class 10. less then 5 min i recall. perhaps less than a mun.
[1:38] <vorsaykal> Yeah, I checked. I don't see any reason why it doesn't see my SD as storage. =(
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[1:43] <mumbles> vorsaykal: woah long time
[1:44] <vorsaykal> mumbles: Long time for what?
[1:45] <mumbles> that card.
[1:46] <mumbles> and for me to sort out my website
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[2:09] <Amadiro> Does anybody know how I have to configure dispmanx to be able to overlay an OpenGL ES window over a playing video? I've played around with setting it to different layers, but that doesn't seem to do anything (dispmanx blocks on acquiring the context until the video stops)
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[2:58] <fuzz1981> Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11iio+ #11 PREEMPT Thu Jan 3 18:27:28 CST 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux
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[2:58] <fuzz1981> industrial io enabled in kernel with mpu6050 driver working
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[3:11] <TAFB> FLAWLESS power supply for the Pi, just got it :) http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=109&cp_id=10907&cs_id=1090701&p_id=9195&seq=1&format=2&ref=cj
[3:11] <TAFB> 2 x 2.1amp USB ports. I can fast charge my phone, power the Pi, plus plug all my regular stuff in :) sweet.
[3:13] <UnaClocker> hehe, that's neat.
[3:13] <TAFB> yeah, every Pi should come with one, and a high quality 24gauge microUSB cable too :) http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5458&seq=1&format=2
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[3:14] <brady2600> anyone here ever installed tor hidden services on their pi?
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[3:15] <brady2600> i have run through this page , and i appear to have successfully done it all, except when i go to look for the hostname file, i don't find it where it says
[3:15] <brady2600> http://kendildonic.wordpress.com/2011/08/03/build-a-tor-hidden-service-onion-web-site-with-a-cheap-vps/
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[3:17] <TAFB> ahy do you want to make it hidden? why not just install pancake or nginx and php?
[3:20] <brady2600> due to the nature of the application
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[3:20] <brady2600> i would think that would be implicit
[3:21] <atouk> kiddie porn server
[3:22] <brady2600> seriously?
[3:22] <brady2600> is this seriously your reaction to good security?
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[3:23] <pksato> go underground.
[3:23] <TAFB> hey atouk :)
[3:24] <atouk> hi
[3:24] <TAFB> i ditched qmail
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[3:24] <TAFB> gonna use exim instead, should work sweet (will dump mail into citadel.
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[4:17] <Scriptonaut> Hey guys, I just got my RPi, and it boots into Raspbian fine. However when I get to the debian-like menu my keyboard doesn't work
[4:17] <Scriptonaut> is this a common problem?
[4:17] <mdszy> Scriptonaut, what type of keyboard? It could be an issue with the keyboard itself
[4:18] <dr_willis> try a powered hub?
[4:18] <Scriptonaut> It's a logitec g16
[4:18] <Scriptonaut> g15*
[4:18] <mdszy> I dunno what that is, try a powered hub.
[4:18] <Scriptonaut> I thought maybe it was sucking too much power up, so I turned all the led's off
[4:18] <mdszy> Or a different keyboard.
[4:19] <mdszy> That won't make too much of a difference at all.
[4:19] <Scriptonaut> powered hub? like a usb hub?
[4:19] <mdszy> Yes, specifically a USB hub with an external power supply
[4:19] <dr_willis> it did for me
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[4:19] <dr_willis> but i switched to a different keybord withoug backlights anyway
[4:19] <dr_willis> my G15 is a power hog
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[4:20] <Scriptonaut> I have a usb hub, I don't think it can be powered though, damn
[4:20] <dr_willis> yep. a lot of unpowered hubs around. harder to find powered ones.
[4:21] <dr_willis> wife has her hello-kitty hub she likes. ;) but its unpowered
[4:21] <Scriptonaut> Is it possible to transfer display through a usb cable? At the place I work(where I have tons of hardware to test out with this thing), the displays only have vga/dvi/dp/usb
[4:21] <dr_willis> found a neat mailbox shaped hub with sd and other media card slots and usb ports... but again. unpowered
[4:22] <dr_willis> Scriptonaut: ive seen usb-monitors by some company- supposed to work in linux
[4:22] <dr_willis> not noticed any vga->usb converters however
[4:23] <Scriptonaut> Ahh, well thanks guys
[4:24] <dr_willis> there may be such devices. but i bet they would be costly
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[4:36] <Neutron19> I kind of gave up on my RPis because of those damn power issues
[4:36] <Neutron19> I just simply cannot make the thing run in a stable manner
[4:37] <plugwash> Scriptonaut, you know you can use a passive adaptor to go from HDMI to DVI right?
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[4:38] <Neutron19> I had one sitting idle for over 2 weeks and everything was fine.. then I switched on the display to do something which put the CPU at full load for a while, and then the USB and network died again
[4:38] <Neutron19> the voltage tolerances are too fine for the real world.. going to need a power supply with a very short cable on the 5V side
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[4:50] <[Gordio]> Hi. I have sound clicks when start play music. Who have to?
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[4:53] <[Gordio]> This is tipical for RasPI?
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[4:54] <damo22> is there raspbian package for dovecot?
[4:54] <mdszy> damo22, look for it!
[4:54] <mdszy> apt-cache search dovecot
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[4:54] <damo22> i tried installing it but it failed
[4:55] <damo22> Failed to fetch http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/pool/main/d/dovecot/dovecot-core_2.1.7-2_armhf.deb 404 Not Found
[4:56] <damo22> ahh update
[4:56] <damo22> why do they remove all the old packages so quick
[4:57] <Zarek_> because they've no need for keeping them (and if the old packages have security flaws, they're not going to keep them and potentially allow more people to download them, are they?)
[4:57] <damo22> fair enough
[4:58] <TAFB> [Gordio]: there is a problem with it unmuting, then re-muting when you play audio, sorry, I can't remember what the fix is.
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[4:59] <damo22> TAFB: i got my alsa patch accepted into alsa
[5:00] <TAFB> damo22: what's alsa? :)
[5:00] <damo22> TAFB: the audio subsystem
[5:00] <TAFB> nice
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[5:00] <TAFB> I thought it was pulseaudio or something, no?
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[5:00] <damo22> pulse uses alsa
[5:00] <TAFB> ahhh
[5:01] <Zarek_> pulseaudio is a userspace(?) audio thing, alsa is kernel-level
[5:01] <Zarek_> iirc
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[5:01] <damo22> yep
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[5:01] <TAFB> was the alsa problem the mute/unmute thing causing the pops in the audio? or was your patch for something different.
[5:01] <damo22> i patched the driver for a usb sound card
[5:02] <Zarek_> i only remember this from the email i read on lkml where linus rips into another kernel dev for screwing user-space (and pulseaudio was mentioned there) in .38-rc1
[5:02] <damo22> its not exactly rpi related, except i wanted to use it on rpi
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[5:02] <TAFB> i remember reading that argument :)
[5:02] <damo22> Zarek_: that was probably me, do you have the link?
[5:02] <TAFB> damo22: you ever use arch?
[5:03] <damo22> i caused a kernel panic in 3.8-rc1
[5:03] <Zarek_> it hit slashdot
[5:03] <Zarek_> um lemme look
[5:05] <Zarek_> damo22: https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/12/23/75
[5:05] <damo22> LOL no not me
[5:05] <TAFB> ^^^ tis the entry I read.
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[5:08] <damo22> hmm so linus says (rudely) that anytime a change in the kernel breaks a userspace program it is considered a bug in the kernel
[5:08] <damo22> ?
[5:09] <Zarek_> yes
[5:09] <Zarek_> because kernel changes should never break userspace
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[5:09] <damo22> but what if i write a shit program that exploits a serious issue in the kernel, then any "fix" that fixed the problem in the kernel would be considered a "bug"
[5:10] <Zarek_> nwo that's different
[5:10] <Zarek_> now *
[5:10] <dr_willis> ;)
[5:10] <damo22> LOL
[5:11] <dr_willis> with that logic kernel 1.0 should work on my new 2013 distros
[5:11] <Zarek_> having it work fine before and having a kernel update introduce a new bug which breaks it, rather than exploiting a bug and having that bug patched in a newer kernel version
[5:11] <damo22> dr_willis: it mostly probably does
[5:11] <Zarek_> men, i'm not a kernel dev
[5:11] <Zarek_> meh *
[5:11] <dr_willis> and they would never remove old drivers
[5:11] <Zarek_> wow my typing is horrible today
[5:12] <Zarek_> but yeah. difference between fixing bugs and introducing new ones
[5:12] <Zarek_> (besides did you see that commit? wow god damn that was ugly)
[5:12] <ferralis> does anyone know of any software that will stream music from my pi to an iphone?
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[5:13] <dr_willis> if you had a dlna/upnp client on the iphone. any dlna server could
[5:14] <dr_willis> no idea about airplay ;)
[5:14] <damo22> how do i force dovecot to use ipv4?
[5:14] <Zarek_> damo22: should be able to tell it to bind to an ipv4 address only?
[5:15] <ferralis> hrm...
[5:15] <damo22> $ sudo dpkg-reconfigure dovecot-imapd
[5:15] <damo22> /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: dovecot-imapd is broken or not fully installed
[5:15] <Zarek_> (never used dovecot in my life, though)
[5:15] <damo22> it failed to open an ipv6 socket, but i didnt get to choose
[5:16] <Zarek_> loldebian
[5:16] <Zarek_> no idea heh
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[5:16] <damo22> i'll ask in debian
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[5:25] <ParkerR_> :D Got my openbox setup http://withg.org/parkerlreed/desktop.png
[5:26] <TAFB> lookin spiffy
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[5:42] <MachinaeWolf> To reinstall raspbian if it didn't install properly do I use gparted or just dd the image over it again?
[5:45] <TAFB> you can just image over it.
[5:45] <MachinaeWolf> hmm well um computer isn't seeing it anymore...
[5:45] <MachinaeWolf> how am I supposed to mount it then?
[5:46] <MachinaeWolf> wait gparted is, but nothing else
[5:46] <MachinaeWolf> Only thing I didn't do was maybe I was supposed to sudo dd the image instead of dd?
[5:47] <ParkerR_> :DDDD
[5:47] <ParkerR_> MachinaeWolf, h
[5:47] <MachinaeWolf> oh hi
[5:47] <ParkerR_> Got my DVD drive working on the Pi
[5:47] <MachinaeWolf> So sudo it I assume?
[5:47] <MachinaeWolf> sweet man
[5:48] <ParkerR_> MachinaeWolf, Just sudo dd if=file.img of=/dev/sdcarddeventry
[5:48] <ParkerR_> It doesnt have to be able to be mounted
[5:48] <MachinaeWolf> that's what I did last time and I got a psu and it wouldn't boot
[5:48] <MachinaeWolf> so I assume it didn't write properly
[5:48] <MachinaeWolf> It's 5v 700mA
[5:48] <ParkerR_> Umm
[5:48] <ParkerR_> Model B
[5:48] <MachinaeWolf> yes, first version model B
[5:48] <ParkerR_> You are going to need a better power supply
[5:49] <MachinaeWolf> ...
[5:49] <ParkerR_> 700mAh is about the minimum
[5:49] <ParkerR_> 1 - 2A recommended
[5:49] <MachinaeWolf> really, I didn't see that anywhere...
[5:49] <MachinaeWolf> power led would come on but that's it
[5:49] <vorsaykal> I'm pushing it with 1A. My keyboard (with a backlight) frequently cuts out for a moment.
[5:50] <ParkerR_> The model B by itself uses almost 700mAh
[5:50] <ParkerR_> So that might be your issue
[5:50] <ParkerR_> SD card may be just fine
[5:50] <MachinaeWolf> well I can't boot it on lappy so can't tell
[5:51] <vorsaykal> If you did everything right, it would be fairly safe to assume it's fine and it's your lack of power.
[5:51] <MachinaeWolf> well I hadn't had errors on the dd
[5:51] <piney> i think it would boot fine if no usb devices / network port unplugged just to see if the lights change and it booted correctly. 700ma isn't way off
[5:52] <MachinaeWolf> Well I had a mouse and keyboard plugged...
[5:52] <piney> that could do it, my mouse overloaded the pi without a powered hub
[5:52] <vorsaykal> When I first got mine, I plugged everything in. Mouse, keyboard, ethernet, HDMI and then power, and it didn't work. So I pulled everything, powered it, then plugged the HDMI in and it worked.
[5:52] <piney> do you have a powered usb hub?
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[5:53] <MachinaeWolf> What exactly does that constitute...?
[5:53] <MachinaeWolf> I have a usb hub for my laptop that I rarely use
[5:53] <ParkerR_> A hub that has its own power supply
[5:53] <MachinaeWolf> oh then no
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[5:53] <piney> it plugs in to the usb port and gives more ports, but it has a power adapter to plug in the wall
[5:53] <MachinaeWolf> yeah mine doesn't, it's just usb hub with usb cable
[5:54] <piney> disconnect all the usb, then boot it with a monitor connected. see if that does anything
[5:54] <MachinaeWolf> will go try
[5:54] <MachinaeWolf> bbiab
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[6:00] <MachinaeWolf> k plugged only the rca cable and the power and no dice with sd card in
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[6:00] <MachinaeWolf> nothing happened
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[6:02] <piney> i would try to dd the image again. can't hurt
[6:02] <MachinaeWolf> k
[6:02] <piney> have a multimeter around?
[6:03] <MachinaeWolf> nope
[6:04] <vorsaykal> Is it just a solid red light and nothing else? You can take a look at http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting which talks a bit about the lights.
[6:04] <MachinaeWolf> yes
[6:04] <dr_willis> gotta love blinky lights
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[6:05] <vorsaykal> There should be a green light flashing at boot.
[6:06] <vorsaykal> If there wasn't, that would be an SD issue.
[6:06] <vorsaykal> (According to the troubleshooting link)
[6:06] <MachinaeWolf> yeah there wasn't green at all
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[6:08] <ParkerR_> So close
[6:08] <ParkerR_> Almost plays an audio CD
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[6:09] <MachinaeWolf> Going for the full desktop experience ParkerR_?
[6:09] <vorsaykal> Pfft. Screw full desktop. Go for full server, desktop, media center, laptop experience!
[6:10] <dr_willis> the full monty!
[6:10] <vorsaykal> Might as well embed it into a robot, too.
[6:10] <MachinaeWolf> ^ do that :o
[6:12] <ParkerR_> vorsaykal, I got desktop, media ceneter, and laptop checked off
[6:13] <vorsaykal> ParkerR_: Wow. Three times more than I do. ;)
[6:13] <MachinaeWolf> k got it dd'd up
[6:13] <MachinaeWolf> time to go see
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[6:17] <shikhin> Ok, so I'm having an issue with the RPi.
[6:17] <shikhin> I have a USB-TTL connector with me, with the following pins: "GND, RXD, TXD, 5.0V, 3.3V".
[6:18] <shikhin> On my first try, I connected all to the respective pins on the RPi, and it worked well.
[6:18] <shikhin> Now, when I connect all pins, and power via mini USB, the power LED doesn't light up.
[6:18] <shikhin> Is it some power issue?
[6:19] <shikhin> If I don't connect the 5.0V pin, the power lights up, but the USB-TTL doesn't work.
[6:19] <MachinaeWolf> well um that didn't work, I see the faint green light though...
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[6:20] <vorsaykal> If it isn't as bright as the red power light, it's meaningless.
[6:20] <MachinaeWolf> well then...
[6:20] <MachinaeWolf> Now what?
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[6:21] <vorsaykal> Look through http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting and try everything under the Power LED On, Green Off section.
[6:22] <vorsaykal> You might want to try a checksum on the image you're trying to use. It might be corrupted.
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[6:23] <shikhin> Sorry, seems like minicom caused a kernel panic.
[6:23] <shikhin> What's also worth noticing is that if I remove the USB from the laptop, the power light goes up, and the LED on the USB-TTL converter also brights up.
[6:24] <shikhin> But once I connect it to the laptop, the LED on the USB-TTL goes dim, and the power led on the RPi goes completely off.
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[6:24] <vorsaykal> MachinaeWolf: Oh, and to clarity, when I said if the green light isn't bright, it's meaningless, that only applies when the RPi is supposed to be using the image, e.g. booting.
[6:25] <MachinaeWolf> ah
[6:26] <shikhin> Any help for me? :(
[6:27] <vorsaykal> shikhin: A quick read through http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting would teach you as much as I know about the RPi's power (which really isn't much). =)
[6:29] <shikhin> Hmm, doesn't say much.
[6:29] <shikhin> I don't have a mutlimeter, or could have checked power supply.
[6:29] <dr_willis> been using a kindle fire charger here to run mine. then been trying other power sources.
[6:30] <dr_willis> now i got it running from a powered usb hub.. so far so good
[6:30] <shikhin> I also got a powered USB hub, I suppose I shall give it a try?
[6:31] <dr_willis> cant hurt i guess
[6:33] <MachinaeWolf> Where are the md5's for raspbian?
[6:33] <shikhin> The Pi has started, now to try with the USB-TTL converter.
[6:33] <shikhin> Argh.
[6:33] <shikhin> The light got dimmer and dimmer and "poof".
[6:34] <vorsaykal> MachinaeWolf: http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads gives SHA-1. Do you specifically require md5?
[6:34] <MachinaeWolf> oh ok thought it had an md5
[6:34] <MachinaeWolf> So what would I do in the case that the sha-1 wouldn't match?
[6:35] <shikhin> dr_willis: Any clue?
[6:36] <dr_willis> shikhin: not really. i have 2 pis so any issues i had i tested on the 2nd pi
[6:36] <MachinaeWolf> yeah sums don't match :/
[6:36] <shikhin> Hrm.
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[6:36] <dr_willis> im not even suer what a usb-ttl converter is. ;)
[6:36] <MachinaeWolf> Just redownload then...?
[6:37] <vorsaykal> MachinaeWolf: Seems so.
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[6:38] <vorsaykal> MachinaeWolf: I recall seeing a post somewhere saying that the checksums were rarely correct, so you should keep the old file and compare the sums of the new and old to see if the checksums are correct.
[6:39] <MachinaeWolf> oh
[6:39] <MachinaeWolf> of it extracted right...?
[6:39] <vorsaykal> Yeah.
[6:39] <MachinaeWolf> k that's what I did
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[6:40] <vorsaykal> Wait. The site would probably do a checksum of the archive.
[6:40] <MachinaeWolf> oh I didn't check that, I still have it though...
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[6:42] <MachinaeWolf> um yeah archive and site sha sums match
[6:42] <MachinaeWolf> ... so um wtf?
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[6:45] <vorsaykal> I'd just try re-extracting the image and if that one doesn't work (or is identical to the old image), I'd say you're either making a mistake somewhere or the SD doesn't work.
[6:45] <MachinaeWolf> hmm ok
[6:45] <vorsaykal> Have you checked to see if there's partitions on the drive with 'fdisk -l /dev/insert_sd_device'?
[6:46] <MachinaeWolf> let me see
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[6:48] <MachinaeWolf> yeah fdisk - shows the sd card and it's w95 fat32 (LBA) filesystem it says
[6:49] <MachinaeWolf> fdisk -l*
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[6:51] <vorsaykal> Only thing left I can think of is trying a different distro like Arch's ALARM for the RPi, even if it's just to check if it boots.
[6:51] <MachinaeWolf> yeah that was going to be my next plan
[6:51] <Tachyon`> risc os would be a good test as it'll start even if it can't mount the fs as long as the rom is loaded
[6:52] <dr_willis> or berryboot
[6:54] <vorsaykal> ^ Better ideas than Arch.
[6:55] <MachinaeWolf> It is...?
[6:55] <MachinaeWolf> but I was going to boot arch if raspbian gave me too much trouble anyways...
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[6:56] <dr_willis> berryboot is small and easy to put on a sd i hear.
[6:56] <dr_willis> ive not messed with it yet
[6:56] <MachinaeWolf> What kind of OS?
[6:56] <vorsaykal> Arch is more fun. The two previously mentioned download much faster.
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[6:57] <vorsaykal> I was messing with Berryboot today. ~35MB download, and you don't use dd. You just extract the files onto your SD on a FAT partition.
[6:58] <vorsaykal> http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot
[6:58] <MachinaeWolf> hmm
[6:58] <vorsaykal> If you were able to get Berryboot working and nothing else, you could use berryboot to boot Raspbian or Arch off a flash drive, if you have a spare one.
[6:58] <MachinaeWolf> oh it's a bootloader?
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[6:59] <jsin> greetings
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[7:00] <vorsaykal> MachinaeWolf: Yeah. You can download OS' straight to your flash drive and have them auto install too.
[7:00] <akulbe> I wonder if anyone is using their rPi for serious production-type stuff... and not just tinkering / experimenting?
[7:00] <dr_willis> real work? blasphmy!
[7:00] <MachinaeWolf> one university made a server or something with em
[7:00] <MachinaeWolf> like a super load of em
[7:00] <Shaan7> supercomputer model
[7:00] <Shaan7> 64 RPis
[7:01] <MachinaeWolf> might've been that
[7:01] <vorsaykal> I want to connect two Raspberry Pis together and call it a Raspberry Tau.
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[7:01] <vorsaykal> JUST so I can call it that.
[7:01] <akulbe> haha
[7:02] <MachinaeWolf> lol
[7:02] <jsin_> Anyone got Youtube (flash OR html 5) working on rPi?
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[7:03] <dr_willis> xbmc was able to play from youtube the other day
[7:03] <dr_willis> does that count? ;)
[7:03] <Shaan7> Some UK Uni, http://www.engadget.com/2012/09/13/supercomputer-built-from-raspberry-pi-and-lego/
[7:03] <jsin_> I read in the forums that xbmc was the way to go...
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[7:04] <dr_willis> xbmc is handy ;)
[7:04] <dr_willis> wife has found several videos that omxplayer (sp?) dont like
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[7:06] <jsin_> dr_willis, do you run xbmc on the default OS or did you install a new image?
[7:06] <jsin_> like RaspBMC, OpenElec, or Xbian?
[7:06] <dr_willis> using xbian mainly
[7:07] <dr_willis> they all update so fast.. constantly switching around
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[7:10] <dr_willis> i found xbian and openelec the top so far. raspbmc had issues
[7:10] <dr_willis> but that could change with the next release. ;)
[7:11] <dr_willis> be nice if everytime i switched xbmc distros i dident have to rescan the library.
[7:11] <dr_willis> must be a way around that
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[7:22] <MachinaeWolf> and arch did nothing for me and sh1 sums matched
[7:23] <MachinaeWolf> didn't boot :/
[7:23] <clear`> dr_willis: i doubt it
[7:23] <clear`> xbmc seems slow on my install
[7:23] <clear`> is it usually laggish?
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[7:26] <MachinaeWolf> So how do I mount the sd card to put berryboot on it?
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[7:28] <MachinaeWolf> Or should I just put the extract location as /dev/sdb1 ?
[7:29] <dr_willis> i saw a library export/backup plugin. may have to look into that
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[7:29] <dr_willis> mount it wherver you want.
[7:29] <dr_willis> /media/mysdcard ;)
[7:29] <MachinaeWolf> hmm fdisk -l lists it as W95 Fat32 (LBA) but gparted says it's unknown file type...
[7:30] <dr_willis> may be worth the effort to delete/repartition with fdisk, then reformat it
[7:30] <dr_willis> im not sure lba is needed for a sd card
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[7:33] <MachinaeWolf> k going try berryboot now
[7:37] <MachinaeWolf> hmm berryboot does work, even with a mouse plugged :o
[7:37] <dr_willis> ;)
[7:37] <dr_willis> gonna have to get a usbhd for my pi and use berryboot
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[7:48] <vorsaykal> MachinaeWolf: Did you have it formatted as FAT and just dumped all the files from the archive into the mounted directory?
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[7:49] <dr_willis> that is cool how the pi boots
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[7:49] <dr_willis> makes bios and the uefi stuff seem overkill ;)
[7:50] <vorsaykal> I love the lack of a BIOS. 2 seconds faster boot speed!
[7:50] <dr_willis> yep. im not even sure how berryboot does it
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[7:54] <bsd1101> .........wow, I haven't been in my pc bios for so long I forgot the pi had to have something to get there.
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[8:02] <akulbe> I just ordered a display for my rPi.
[8:02] <akulbe> time to stop using the TV downstairs :)
[8:03] <akulbe> I wish you could run Dropbox on the rPi. :/
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[8:06] <Milos> what's stopping you from running dropbox on it
[8:06] <akulbe> there's no build for ARM
[8:07] <Milos> https://www.dropbox.com/help/247/en
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[8:08] <akulbe> I know about that, but it doesn't work.
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[8:08] <Milos> does it sit on the couch all day?
[8:08] <Milos> does it yawn?
[8:08] <Milos> does it make you laugh?
[8:08] <Milos> what does "doesn't work" mean?
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[8:10] <dr_willis> hmm.. xbmc plugins had some 'backup to dropbox' extension
[8:12] <Grievre> dr_willis: well when there's only one RAM chip, all of the peripherals are on-die on the CPU, and there's exactly one possible disk drive to boot from...
[8:12] <Grievre> yeah you can get away without a PC-style BIOS
[8:12] <Grievre> but a PC has (or had at least) multiple removable RAM chips, off-chip peripherals, et cetera et cetera
[8:13] <dr_willis> does sort of suck you cant boot from usb
[8:14] <Grievre> you can chain boot from the SD card to USB and that's pretty much good enough for me honestly... SD cards are so cheap
[8:14] <dr_willis> i need moar sd cards
[8:14] <dr_willis> wife keeps taking them
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[8:15] <dr_willis> i remember when compact flash was the big fancy thing. ;)
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[8:17] <clear`> lol
[8:17] <clear`> now ssd is the big fancy thing
[8:18] <dr_willis> yep. need me a external usb ssd.. for a quiet pi
[8:18] <Grievre> dr_willis: iirc on a PC you used to be able to dd your kernel directly onto a floppy disk and boot that way
[8:18] <dr_willis> Grievre: ive done that befor ;)
[8:18] <Grievre> dr_willis: but it had to have the necessary drivers compiled directly in
[8:18] <dr_willis> the good old days
[8:18] <dr_willis> 'oops frogot to compile in ext2 support....'
[8:18] <dr_willis> 'oops frogot to compile in ide support'
[8:19] <dr_willis> now we got initrd and fancy thangs
[8:20] <Grievre> dr_willis: Anyway the main difference is that the boot code for the raspberry pi already knows how all of the hardware is set up pretty much
[8:20] <Grievre> whereas a PC BIOS has to do detective work
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[8:20] <dr_willis> and efi has to do black majick ;)
[8:20] <Grievre> dr_willis: "How much RAM is installed, what timings/bus speed shall I use, where are my disk controllers, let's try each disk in this order..."
[8:21] <Grievre> dr_willis: Also it has to have USB support so you can talk to it with the keyboard, it has to get the video card working...
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[8:22] <Grievre> dr_willis: basically a bunch of stuff gets set up by the BIOS, and then the OS that you load blows it all away and sets it back up its own way
[8:23] <Grievre> dr_willis: usually ends up resetting the video card, changing CPU clock speed etc
[8:25] <Grievre> Whereas all the raspberry pi's loader has to do is get the RAM set up, and then it already knows where the OS will be
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[8:27] <Grievre> only has to understand one kind of filesystem and read a very simple config file
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[8:39] <bsd1101> what we need is coreboot on every machine
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[9:08] <Super_Dog> Anbody have some good switches / tweaks for Raspberry Pi running as Rsync server / receiver of rsync file transfers?
[9:09] <Super_Dog> I keep running across errors on the bigger jobs and I think it is configuration or memory related but not sure if its SD card, settings of server, command switch or what that would make this work.
[9:09] <Super_Dog> Here's the error: http://pastebin.com/AW4LSrNH
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[9:10] <Super_Dog> Running it on Squeeze...
[9:10] <Super_Dog> Hard float..
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[9:12] <Gallomimia> Super_Dog the first thing i suggest is adding more swap. i just did that. it starts with only 100M
[9:12] <dr_willis> wonder if running from a usb hd would help a lot
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[9:42] <DarkTherapy> morning all
[9:42] <dr_willis> moo!
[9:44] <DarkTherapy> my current siriproxy/RasPi project http://youtu.be/TPiTkgb62XE
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[9:52] <frikinz> Not sure if the PI is good for an rsync server. Ethernet is on usb..
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[9:54] <dr_willis> that explains the lsusb output i saw..
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[10:03] <mdorenka> is there a raspbian image available which is based on debian squeeze?
[10:04] <mdorenka> (especially with the new config tool)
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[10:06] <Davespice> Elite Dangerous has hit its funding goal; http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20897768 =)
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[10:06] <DaQatz> Yep. yesterday I think
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[10:07] <frikinz> mdorenka: what is the new config tool?
[10:07] <mdorenka> the one that supports model b
[10:08] <mdorenka> sorry
[10:08] <mdorenka> model b with 512mb
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[10:09] <frikinz> Raspbian is based on debian weehzy. Squeeze is slowly becoming the old stable (cat /etc/debian_version now shows 7.0) Not sure why you would go back to squeeze.
[10:10] <frikinz> I suspect raspbian already supports 512MB model. I have a 256 but a lot of these 512MB model
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[10:10] <frikinz> but a lot have* these
[10:11] <frikinz> -EFINGERS
[10:11] <DaQatz> I have a 256, considering also getting a 512.
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[10:11] <teh_orph> morning
[10:11] <frikinz> yo :)
[10:11] <teh_orph> yo
[10:12] <frikinz> Not sure if I consider a 512. Didn't use more than 100/150MB but not running X nor xbmc also
[10:13] <nid0> whether or not the memory's useful depends on your usage
[10:13] <mdorenka> 10:10 frikinz ?? Raspbian is based on debian weehzy. Squeeze is slowly becoming the old stable (cat /etc/debian_version now shows 7.0) Not sure why you would go back to squeez <- because squeeze involves mono 2.6 as a packet since i dont want to use 2.10 (for compability reasons)
[10:14] <DaQatz> frikinz: I compile on my pi
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[10:14] <DaQatz> frikinz: Easy to use up that ram.
[10:14] <frikinz> DaQatz: wow. You have time :) Why don't u use a chroot? It takes around 3mn to setup
[10:15] <DaQatz> I have used cross + distcc
[10:15] <frikinz> mdorenka: maybe mono 2.6 can be built against wheezy?
[10:15] <DaQatz> But breaks often
[10:15] <DaQatz> And teh real time is spent on pre-processor
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[10:15] <mdorenka> frikinz sure it can be built against wheezy (which is what i did) but having it as a .deb seems to be nicer ;)
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[10:16] <frikinz> mdorenka: yeah built, I meant packaged
[10:16] <mdorenka> how?
[10:16] <frikinz> apt-get source , apt-get build-dep, dpkg-buildpackage ?
[10:17] <frikinz> always easier to say than to do though :)
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[10:23] <frikinz> wow mono-runtime 325MB source o_O
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[10:27] <mdorenka> frikinz can i add the squeeze sources under wheezy without running into problems?
[10:27] <frikinz> mdorenka: you'll probably run into problem if you do this.
[10:28] <frikinz> I'm talking of adding deb-src to fetch the source on mono 2.6 in squeeze and REBUILT the whole
[10:28] <mdorenka> thats what i did?
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[10:29] <mdorenka> running wheezy, adding apt entry for deb-src of squeeze
[10:29] <frikinz> mdorenka: then fine :) on the PI directly?
[10:29] <mdorenka> yup
[10:29] <frikinz> mdorenka: it will take you probably days to build mono on the pi
[10:30] <frikinz> :)
[10:30] <frikinz> I suspect that half a GIGA of source code
[10:30] <mdorenka> about 5h
[10:30] <mdorenka> did it last night with the sources provided directly by mono
[10:30] <frikinz> mdorenka: wait. you did it already?
[10:30] <mdorenka> yes
[10:30] <mdorenka> but not "package-friendly"
[10:31] <mdorenka> running "./configure; make ; make install" isnt a clean way imo
[10:32] <mdorenka> btw its 36,5mb not 365mb ;))
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[10:41] <marcialr> hi to all! I need to downgrade the python version from 2.7.3rc2 to 2.7.3... cound someone point me how this can be acheived? thanks in advance!
[10:41] <yaMatt> marcialr, how did you install it originally?
[10:42] <tzarc> that's an upgrade, not a downgrade
[10:42] <dr_willis> hmm. debian/apt system has that 'pin' feature for specific versions
[10:42] <marcialr> from wheezy
[10:42] <marcialr> true, its an upgrade
[10:42] <frikinz> mdorenka: Well, you could have packaged it by taking wheezy source. the deb is 35MB. but unpacked I see 325MB
[10:43] <frikinz> (debian)localhost:~/mono/mono-2.6.7# du -hs
[10:43] <frikinz> 331M
[10:43] <marcialr> so if i do apt-get upgrade (something)... will it do?
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[10:45] <yaMatt> marcialr, should do, apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[10:46] <yaMatt> but I'm surprised rc2 was in the repos to begin with
[10:46] <marcialr> ok, i'm on it now!
[10:46] <yaMatt> ah, yes, I see it now
[10:46] <yaMatt> http://packages.debian.org/search?suite=wheezy&searchon=names&keywords=python2.7
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[10:48] <marcialr> yaMatt: and what does it mean? i must install 2.7.3 by hand?
[10:48] <marcialr> update + upgrade does nothing!!
[10:48] <yaMatt> yeah, looks like you won't get it through apt without adding it another way
[10:48] <marcialr> and it is...
[10:49] <marcialr> or is it a bad idea?
[10:50] <yaMatt> so if you're lucky you might be able to grab the package from sid
[10:50] <marcialr> sorry... sid?
[10:51] <yaMatt> so sid is another form of Debian like weezy is
[10:51] <marcialr> The unstable distribution
[10:51] <marcialr> i see
[10:51] <yaMatt> yup
[10:51] <marcialr> ffffffffffffffff
[10:51] <viric> the names of the stable debians change along time. But the unstable is always 'sid' iirc
[10:52] <yaMatt> or you could compile your own version which may be easier to control
[10:52] <yaMatt> viric, yup
[10:52] <frikinz> Do you really need python 2.7 rather than 2.7rc2 ?
[10:53] <yaMatt> the names are just confusing imo, but are more useful than trying to work out what is experimental/unstable/testing
[10:53] <marcialr> that looks to much for the simple problem i've found
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[10:53] <marcialr> I'll illustrate:
[10:54] <marcialr> a python web site on the raspberry (2.7.3rc2) with a sqlite datebase. I made a script which uploads it to dropbox to backup.
[10:54] <viric> yaMatt: everyone likes names for the things they work with. Like "raspberry pi" for example.
[10:54] <viric> it could be called 352195
[10:55] <marcialr> if i download it back to the raspy through wget and i try to use it it fails saying its not a database or database is encripted
[10:55] <viric> And I've no idea about their difference between experimental, unstable and testing
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[10:56] <marcialr> but if i download it to ubuntu or to windows (both on 2.7.3) it yust works fine!!
[10:56] <davzie> Is it normal for unpacking of apt-get upgrade debs to take literally 3 minutes per downloaded package, some of them are very small packages (like 600kb)
[10:56] <yaMatt> marcialr, but you're using wget to do the downloading?
[10:56] <marcialr> yes
[10:56] <viric> marcialr: python has an awful horrible deployment, for the sysadmins.
[10:56] <viric> sysadmins should strike not installing python anywhere.
[10:57] <yaMatt> davzie, that is pretty excessive
[10:57] <marcialr> yaMatt... could wget be the problem???
[10:57] <yaMatt> marcialr, possibly, I'd look at that first
[10:57] <marcialr> viric: i agree!
[10:58] <yaMatt> viric, however much I love Python I do have to agree with you, as soon as you're not using a package manager it becomes a real pain to maintain
[10:58] <marcialr> yaMatt: what tool should i use to download besides wget?
[10:58] <viric> the same could be said of perl.
[10:58] <viric> :)
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[10:59] <marcialr> i am using the raspi via ssh. no windows!
[10:59] <yaMatt> marcialr, python actually has a module that could be used for that, but wget is pretty universal, you could also look at curl
[10:59] <frikinz> Why perl? there's local::lib, cpan, and packaged modules. I don't have problems with that. I distribute portable modules and have no problems
[11:00] <davzie> Thanks yaMatt I think the Class 4 SD was dying
[11:00] <viric> frikinz: different directories per version...
[11:00] <viric> every version gets its own tree of modules installed...
[11:00] <viric> some modules are in one version, some in other, some in both, ...
[11:01] <yaMatt> sounds like Java
[11:01] <yaMatt> although they're in zip files, is my understanding
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[11:03] <frikinz> Yes, the same module will be put in two different directories. Personnaly I don't upgrade perl so often. Debian even sid has been on 5.14.2 for more than a year now
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[11:03] <marcialr> yaMatt: i've downloaded it with curl -O and the same result
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[11:10] <yaMatt> marcialr, and works fine on your normal machine?
[11:11] <marcialr> sorry to everyone! i've found the problem! it has nothing to do with the version or python or wget...
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[11:12] <marcialr> it was my fault. i'm not accostumed to working only from the terminal and when downloading through curl or wget the file created was a .db
[11:12] <marcialr> but the contents where html
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[11:13] <yaMatt> marcialr, ah, I see :)
[11:14] <marcialr> although you ask dropbox for a public link, it must be used from a browser which loads a page with then does this smartLoad thing and ....
[11:14] <marcialr> sorry folks for the wasted time!!
[11:15] <marcialr> and thands
[11:15] <marcialr> thanks
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[11:15] <frikinz> How do you do these dropbox operations? Scripts?
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[11:21] <marcialr> frikinz: the upload is with an easy script via python... the download... can be done the same way (i'm investigating right now)
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[11:23] <marcialr> frikinz: https://github.com/jncraton/PythonDropboxUploader (it uses mechanize)
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[11:27] <yaMatt> dropbox does have some pretty nice api
[11:29] <marcialr> The solution to use wet or curl:
[11:29] <marcialr> https://www.dropbox.com/s/3wg9h0jyvm5dlm8/krondo1356860077.db
[11:29] <marcialr> is the link via browser
[11:29] <marcialr> https://dl.dropbox.com/s/3wg9h0jyvm5dlm8/krondo1356860077.db?dl=1
[11:29] <marcialr> is usable from command line
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[11:31] <marcialr> yaMatt: i took a look at the api but found faster to use the script at github ( PythonDropboxUploader) it worked from minute 1 without having to code more than tree lines
[11:32] <yaMatt> yeah, that's understandable
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[11:40] <davzie> Is the Nexus 4 worth getting?
[11:40] <davzie> I'm looking to replace my iPhone with Android, I feel it's time to give it another go.
[11:41] <yaMatt> it's the latest Google phone, if you want hassle free updates it's worth it
[11:41] <yaMatt> probably the phone I'll go for
[11:41] <ShiftPlusOne> I've only had luck with Samsung phones when it comes to android phones.
[11:41] <davzie> I can't seem to find it completely carrier-free in the UK
[11:41] <davzie> I don't trust Samsung to deliver updates. Also is the Nexus 4 bootloader unlocked?
[11:42] <yaMatt> I expect it will be like the Galaxy Nexus and it will be well supported by Google
[11:42] <ShiftPlusOne> Meh... manufacturer updates. xda has everything you need.
[11:42] <marcialr> go for the Note! one or 2 doesn't really matter!
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[11:43] <frikinz> Buy some steroids to grow your hands at the same time
[11:44] <marcialr> that's a mith!
[11:44] <frikinz> I'm happy with my S3. Even stopped updating through xda
[11:44] <marcialr> you'll enjoy it more than that there is a problem with the size
[11:44] <ShiftPlusOne> If I were to buy a new phone right now, I'd probably go for Galaxy Note 2, but the S2 has me covered anyway.
[11:45] <yaMatt> I find the Galaxy Nexus a bit too big for my hand most of the time, not sure what I'd do with an S3, probably drop it on my face a lot more
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[11:46] <ShiftPlusOne> It's a hard thing to gauge until you've owned it for a while. I thought the S2 was a bit of a clownphone, but got used to it pretty quickly.
[11:47] <frikinz> My gf got a iPhone 4 from her sister. I didn't manage to unsimlock it. waiting for operator allowance (mid january, damn germany laws you need to wait 2y) so she used it with wifi. then she wanted watsapp. needs ios4.3. goes to itunes. ios4.3 not available. update to 6. itunes is a pain. update fails, recovery. Now phone is locked. Needs a 'valid sim card' to 'activate'. That was the last iphone we accept as gift
[11:48] <marcialr> you keep your promise... they know how to tempt people!!! ;-)
[11:49] <davzie> Man I want to find a carrier free company for the NExus 4 in the uk
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[11:50] <frikinz> they are not tempting us with locking everything. If not unlocked mid january I'll give it to the janitor and pay 300 euros for an android phone
[11:50] <ShiftPlusOne> Can always order from overseas. You'd just have to make the warranty claim through whatever country you got it from if you had to.
[11:50] <frikinz> is the GN2 same size as S3?
[11:50] <yaMatt> can you not order it from Google Play when they get some in stock?
[11:50] <marcialr> bigger
[11:50] <marcialr> 4.7 to 5.5 or so
[11:51] <frikinz> ah. wow. for a woman had, it might be slightly too big. have to change girlfriend maybe
[11:51] <marcialr> definetly not for a woman
[11:51] <marcialr> jajajaja
[11:51] <ShiftPlusOne> frikinz, change your girlfriend for a boyfriend?
[11:51] <frikinz> ok. Nexus4 ran out of stock here. Next batch of 10'0000 will be taken in 10mn so I can forget about this phone
[11:52] <frikinz> ShiftPlusOne: lol
[11:52] <marcialr> but they carry purses. I convinced a neighbour who has a company and is really happy to do her work things on it
[11:52] <frikinz> I'll prefer a smaller phone then :)
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[11:53] <marcialr> it all depends on your life.. if you live on shorts on the beach, and you want your hands free... then get a small thing.
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[11:54] <marcialr> and ther's a big plus, with a phone like the note you'll save yourself from buying a tablet (i promise)
[11:54] <ShiftPlusOne> "save yourself from buying a tablet" Heh, why would you feel like you have to?
[11:55] <frikinz> I have a xoom as a tablet. really not regretting. now getting a bit laggy for newer stuffs but still happy. for 350 euros a year ago
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[11:56] <frikinz> I saw someone with an asus tablet with keyboard. Nice. But.. it runs windows. Have to find another one
[11:56] <ShiftPlusOne> frikinz, and no way to get linux on them?
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[11:57] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't know if I am being a luddite here, but I don't get the appeal of tablets =/
[11:57] <frikinz> ShiftPlusOne: dunno, I see people having a hard time with secure boot on arm devices. I'm just avoiding win stuffs until they get a complaint by EU.
[11:57] <ShiftPlusOne> hm
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[11:58] <frikinz> complaint by EU : force manufacturer or reselers to show if possible to remove win and install something else. The discussion is already ongoing. I expect in 2 months they'll get the order to do it
[11:58] <ShiftPlusOne> I'd be surprised =/
[11:58] <sundancer> hi all! im wondering if i can power raspberry pi from gertboard? there are unused tracks for 78xx IC and i would like to place 7805 there so i can use any power adapter from mains to low voltage (7-20V)
[11:59] <sundancer> but im not sure how raspberry pi is powered
[11:59] <yaMatt> USB
[11:59] <sundancer> yes USB.. but then i need separate PS adapter to power up gertboard's ULN2803
[11:59] <frikinz> ShiftPlusOne: "linked selling" is not allowed. You have to be able to dissociate the HW from the SW.
[12:00] <sundancer> which means two PS adapters
[12:00] <sundancer> one for pi, other for gertboard
[12:00] <ShiftPlusOne> interesting =/
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[12:01] <frikinz> http://mjg59.dreamwidth.org/21189.html No, Linux won't be easy to run on a Microsoft Surface
[12:01] <yaMatt> sundancer, 5v at 500ma (or more if you can spare)
[12:01] <plugwash> ShiftPlusOne, I see all mobile computing devices as a compromise between portability and usability
[12:03] <plugwash> personally i'm not a great fan of tablets because while ok for content viewing they suck for anything where you actually need to enter text.
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[12:03] <plugwash> (though I guess the keyboard covers fix that)
[12:04] <ShiftPlusOne> plugwash, yeah, plus there's the distinction between productivity and enterntainment devices.
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[12:06] <ShiftPlusOne> sundancer, you can power your pi through the 5v gpio pins, yes. Don't know about the 3.3v, that seems a little sketchy, since then you'd be providing power on the wrong side of a regulator.
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[12:09] <plugwash> If you want to use an external 3.3V regulator for efficiency reasons it's probablly best to remove the one that is on the Pi
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[12:13] <sundancer> if i dont provide 3V3 which part of rpi board wont work?
[12:13] <ShiftPlusOne> it will work just fine
[12:13] <g4mbit> hi there
[12:13] <sundancer> so why 3v3 regulator then?
[12:14] <g4mbit> anyone of you guys has a piratebox running on the pi?
[12:14] <sundancer> im telling if i provide only 5V through GPIO pin
[12:15] <ShiftPlusOne> sundancer, yes, that will work. If you want to use a higher efficiency alternative or attach some 3.3v devices which the pi's circuitry wouldn't be able to power, you can use your own 3.3v supply circuitry. That's optional.
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[12:21] <sundancer> ShiftPlusOne so i can connect 12V to gertboard which will use 7805 and provide 5V from gertboard to rpi GPIO pin and then everything will work?
[12:22] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't know about the gertboard circuitry. As long as it can provide enough current for the pi and the gerboard itself, you're ok. I am not guaranteeing anything though =)
[12:22] <sundancer> ok :)
[12:23] <sundancer> thank you
[12:23] <ShiftPlusOne> consult the raspberry pi schematics if you're unsure.
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[12:24] <sundancer> anyway i want raspberry pi hooked to gertboard, i need ULN2803 which needs external power ... and i only want to use one power supply adapter.. so my solution is 12V adapter connected to ULN2803 input, the same adapter would go to 7805 soldered to gertboard and 5Volts from 7805 to power raspberry pi through 5v GPIO pin
[12:26] <SpeedEvil> should work
[12:26] <SpeedEvil> don't forget output decoupling cap
[12:26] <sundancer> which one is that?
[12:27] <SpeedEvil> the capacitor on the 7805 out pout
[12:27] <SpeedEvil> put
[12:27] <sundancer> ok
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[12:37] * gordonDrogon waves.
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[12:37] <gordonDrogon> the 7805 will get hot feeding it from 12V.
[12:38] <gordonDrogon> so put a heatsink on it and keep fingers away, but otherwise it'll be ok.
[12:38] <gordonDrogon> sundancer, just power the 5v on the GPIO - the Pi has on-board 5v to 3.3v regulator.
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[12:40] <SpeedEvil> http://item.mobileweb.ebay.co.uk/viewitem?itemId=170734419936&index=5&nav=WATCHING&nid=95156405699
[12:41] <SpeedEvil> for not get hot regulator
[12:42] <plugwash> I wouldn't use a 7805 to power the Pi from 12V
[12:42] <gordonDrogon> plenty to choose from - e.g. http://uk.farnell.com/xp-power/sr10s05/switching-regulator-5v-1a-o-p/dp/1861095?Ntt=sr10s05
[12:42] <gordonDrogon> and http://www.rapidonline.com/Electrical-Power/1A-Single-output-step-down-DC-to-DC-converters-R-78x
[12:42] <gordonDrogon> x-1-0-series-78072 are pin-compatible with 7805's, although more expensive.
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[12:44] <gordonDrogon> the gertboard has space for a 7805 type regulator though (along with the decoupling caps and a protection diode)
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[12:45] <bs123> hi
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[12:48] <gordonDrogon> hello
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[12:53] <mongrol> r
[12:55] <ShiftPlusOne> Someone earlier had a good board that used an LM2576
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[12:58] <SpeedEvil> the one I linked is the same shape as the one in the pictures
[12:58] <SpeedEvil> I just need to test it
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[13:05] <gordonDrogon> https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=lm2576&hl=en&tbo=u&biw=1107&bih=860&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=XsXmUPvEL-SW0QXTioGgCQ&sqi=2&ved=0CEoQsAQ
[13:05] <gordonDrogon> take your pick :)
[13:07] <SpeedEvil> yeah
[13:08] <SpeedEvil> a pound, delivered free is pretty insane
[13:08] <bs123> what are you guys talking about?
[13:09] <gordonDrogon> voltage regulators.
[13:09] <bs123> thought so
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[13:13] <bs123> yeah i think the LM2576 is a good option....some use 7805...but you want some good caps next to it...to remove noise
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[13:17] <gordonDrogon> the big issue is efficientcy and heat.
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> well it is these days. 15 years ago no-one cared.
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> I still use 7805's, but if I were designing something new now for producton I'd look at switching type regulators.
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[13:24] <mdorenka> is it safe to run the raspi in turbo mode?
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[13:25] <ShiftPlusOne> It won't blow up or try to kill anyone, but you might reduce the lifetime of the chip.
[13:25] <ShiftPlusOne> From a completly made up number like 15 years to another made up number like 10.
[13:26] <mdorenka> "might" or "will" ?
[13:26] <raspier> Everything other than force_turbo=1 is definitely safe
[13:26] <ShiftPlusOne> Check back in 15 years =p. Theoretically, 'will'.
[13:26] <raspier> Or overvoltaging
[13:27] <Amadiro> raspier, raspi-configs "turbo mode" overvolts quite a bit.
[13:27] <Amadiro> I don't know if it sets force_turbo
[13:27] <mdorenka> then ill stay with 700mhz
[13:27] <ShiftPlusOne> There are certain setting you don't want to combine with force_turbot.
[13:27] <raspier> raspi-config doesn't set force_turbo as it still uses the govenor
[13:27] <ShiftPlusOne> *turbo
[13:28] <mdorenka> (and compiling mono will take forever :D)
[13:28] <ShiftPlusOne> (force_turbo || current_limit_override || temp_limit>85) && over_voltage>0
[13:28] <sundancer> gordonDrogon thank you very much! i will use 7805 because gertboard has tracks and everything i just need to solder few elements and connector
[13:28] <ShiftPlusOne> warranty void condition
[13:29] * neilr likes the idea of a force_turbot option in the config :)
[13:29] <ShiftPlusOne> >=/
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[13:32] <SpeedEvil> I love fish.
[13:32] <SpeedEvil> turbot is nice
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[13:38] <mumbles_> http://www.flickr.com/photos/7211453@N07/8344020182
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[13:44] <xrosnight> hello :D is there anyone who know some basic electronics, i have a circuit that i don't know how the capacitors work. Could anyone explain a little bit ? Thanks :) http://html.alldatasheet.com/html-pdf/22634/STMICROELECTRONICS/L7805CV/6499/4/L7805CV.html on this page. what does Ci, Co mean? Many thanks :D
[13:45] <ShiftPlusOne> http://www.allaboutcircuits.com/vol_2/chpt_4/2.html might be a good start
[13:45] <ShiftPlusOne> and the DC chapter on capacitors too
[13:45] <ShiftPlusOne> C_i being the input capacitor
[13:46] <ShiftPlusOne> (and C_o being output, obviously)
[13:46] <xrosnight> ShiftPlusOne: yeah input capacitor yeah. it stores current for what?
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[13:47] <mumbles_> anyone want the domain alt-f4.co.uk ?
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[13:48] <ShiftPlusOne> It stores and releases energy. You get a build up of electrons on one side when you apply the voltage, which charges up the circuit. When the voltage is removed it discharges. It takes time to charge/discharge so it doesn't take instantaneous changes in voltage, so high frequency signals get filtered out
[13:48] <ShiftPlusOne> to what degree depends on the capacitance value
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[13:49] <ShiftPlusOne> So it acts as a filter and smoothes out the noise in that circuit (as far as I understand it)
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[13:52] <xrosnight> ShiftPlusOne: many thanks to you!
[13:52] <ShiftPlusOne> xrosnight, don't rely on what I said though, I just tend to blindly follow datasheets and use equations without thinking about what they mean physically.
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[13:54] <xrosnight> ShiftPlusOne: your explanation is very good. i now understand some how. to what degree , depends on the capacitance value. So the Co might be a capacitor which can flirt high frequency or unstable signal for output
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[13:55] <xrosnight> ShiftPlusOne: the circuit i pasted is one simple application of L7805CV
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[13:56] <plugwash> the key equation with capacitors that I wish i'd been told much earlier is I=C(dV/dt)
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[13:57] <ShiftPlusOne> In AC/power circuits we often treat it as a reactance X=1/(2*pi*f*C)
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[13:58] <plugwash> ShiftPlusOne, right but it's IMO important to understand the underlying equation that applies in all contexts rather than just learning a series of special cases derived from it
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[13:58] <plugwash> at least I think it is
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[14:01] <ShiftPlusOne> plugwash, I think so too, but in my university there's not really enough time to understand anything. If you want to pass the exam, just memorise equations, heh. (I hate that)
[14:02] <plugwash> I find if I don't understand where an equation came from I simply can't memorise it
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[14:02] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, fair enough.
[14:02] <Amadiro> I think it's pretty much like that for everyone
[14:03] * plugwash is a bit bitter though, I only got a B in electronics A level and I put that down to not understanding capacitors and I put my lack of understanding capacitors at the time to noone telling me that differential equation
[14:04] <ShiftPlusOne> Really? That equation is all over the place, heh.
[14:04] <neilr> an equation that astounds me every time is e^(i*pi) + 1 = 0
[14:05] <neilr> nothing to do with electronics though
[14:06] <Amadiro> neilr, it can have a lot to do with electronics :)
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[14:06] <Amadiro> After all, complex numbers are used in electronics and have application in all things fourier-related, which also have applications in electronics
[14:07] <neilr> Really? I'm even more astounded then! I probably should have listened in school :)
[14:07] <ShiftPlusOne> Yeah, even without fourier transforms, imaginary numbers are all over the place.
[14:08] <Amadiro> Well, it's not really taught in school, you'd probably have to attend a university to learn about that
[14:08] <ShiftPlusOne> Kind of the language of electronics.
[14:08] <xrosnight> is there any online school for electronics ?
[14:08] <ShiftPlusOne> I would imagine coursera has lots of electronics courses for free
[14:08] <chithead> you can download lectures from many universities
[14:09] <ShiftPlusOne> but I also think the allaboutcircuits book is great too.
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[14:09] <ShiftPlusOne> https://www.coursera.org/course/eefun
[14:09] <neilr> Didn't MIT launch an online electronics course a while back?
[14:10] <ShiftPlusOne> That course looks like pretty much all of the important first year foundation stuff.
[14:10] <xrosnight> now that i have already graduated from college with bachelor degrees not in electronics but in economy and art. i want to learn some basic electronics online cause i am 22 now. not having another 4 years to spend in college
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[14:11] <neilr> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-17012968
[14:11] <neilr> Sadly out of date now, but they may be running it again next year
[14:12] <AtomPhil> there's of similar stuff available at coursera
[14:13] <raspier> Most of the EE lectures from Imperial are online for free
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[14:14] <raspier> This would be a good start: http://www.ee.ic.ac.uk/hp/staff/dmb/courses/ccts1/ccts1.htm
[14:15] <raspier> Mike Brookes was a great lecturer too
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[14:21] <Kriss3d> HI everyone. uhm do anyone here stream from Danish Live Tv plugin to xbmc ?
[14:22] <Kriss3d> cause all i get is black screen and no sound. but other plugins do work
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[14:26] <akulbe> Milos: Since Nautilus comes with all the dependencies that install the Gnome UI, I didn't go through that process... but when you have Dropbox _employees_ saying there is currently no build for ARM... I'm going to take their word for it.
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[14:53] <DarkTherapy> so...
[14:53] <Hodapp> errr....
[14:53] <ShiftPlusOne> uhm...
[14:53] <DarkTherapy> indeed
[14:53] <TAFB_zzz> hey shift :)
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[14:54] <ShiftPlusOne> good morning, TAFB
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[14:54] <TAFB> thx :)
[14:54] <TAFB> almost got my email workin, got exim and Citadel installed, they are just having problems talking to eachother :)
[14:54] <TAFB> http://tafb.yi.org
[14:55] <TAFB> she's gettin under some load now, with all that runnin
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[14:59] <DarkTherapy> how do I drop a voltage down by half a volt? 5.5v to 5v, just a resistor?
[15:00] <DarkTherapy> or does the current come into play
[15:00] <ShiftPlusOne> that would assume a constant current.
[15:00] <Hodapp> DarkTherapy: you might be able to use a Zener diode for that.
[15:00] <DarkTherapy> Hodapp: that's what I was thinking
[15:00] <Hodapp> diodes can give a fairly constant voltage drop.
[15:00] <ShiftPlusOne> +1 for a zener
[15:00] <DarkTherapy> don't they usually drop 1.5v though?
[15:01] <Hodapp> what they drop by is specific to the diode
[15:01] <DarkTherapy> k
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[15:03] <BWMerlin> I am trying to set up my pi using raspbian as a torrent box but I am not finding it very stable
[15:04] <ShiftPlusOne> stable in what sense?
[15:04] <BWMerlin> I have reduced the overclock from high to moderate but was wondering is there anything else I can do?
[15:04] <BWMerlin> I have the deluge daemon running and it seems crash the entire pi
[15:04] <BWMerlin> I set up a bunch of torrents and then went to watch a movie
[15:04] <BWMerlin> came back to check the progress and the pi was totally unresponsive to ping or to physical access
[15:05] <ShiftPlusOne> Might want to go over the logs and see what went wrong if possible.
[15:05] <teh_orph> the network driver dies easily
[15:05] <teh_orph> I have a serial console always attached so I can see it happen
[15:06] <xzr> maybe check the ram usage?
[15:07] <teh_orph> remove the overclock too...
[15:07] <BWMerlin> I took the overclock from high to moderate just now
[15:07] <BWMerlin> and I have stopped x from starting up with it (hoping that it will free up some resources)
[15:07] <teh_orph> I'd remove the overclock altogether...can you reproduce it with it off?
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[15:09] <BWMerlin> I will try with no overclock if it crashes out again
[15:09] <BWMerlin> free -m says I have 69 free I assume that is 69MB
[15:10] <teh_orph> I'd also turn off the turbo mode on the Ethernet driver
[15:10] <teh_orph> have a look in /boot/cmdline.txt to see if it's already disabled (look for turbo)
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[15:12] <BWMerlin> I see no mention of turbo in cmdline.txt
[15:14] <teh_orph> ok then, add this:
[15:14] <teh_orph> smsc95xx.turbo_mode=N
[15:14] <TAFB> BWMerlin: To see free ram, run: free -h
[15:14] <BWMerlin> ShiftPlusOne: where will I find the log files?
[15:14] <teh_orph> and then in /etc/sysctl.conf, look for vm.min_free_kbytes
[15:14] <TAFB> besid buffers/cache under free is your free ram.
[15:14] <teh_orph> change to vm.min_free_kbytes = 12288
[15:14] <ShiftPlusOne> BWMerlin, /var/log
[15:14] <ShiftPlusOne> I think messages and kern.log
[15:15] <teh_orph> does wonders for me - the Ethernet driver is constantly waiting in the kernel log for me
[15:15] <ShiftPlusOne> since you rebooted, it might have a .0 or a .1 on the end of the file name, I think.
[15:15] <xrosnight> is there any archlinux img which fits new 512MB B raspi ?
[15:15] <TAFB> hey xrosnight :) How's china doing?
[15:15] <TAFB> I noticed newegg.cn no longer sells windows, lol.
[15:16] <xrosnight> TAFB: Fine . Thanks.
[15:16] <BWMerlin> teh_orph: does it matter where abouts I add that string?
[15:16] <teh_orph> no
[15:16] <teh_orph> the min free kbytes on though you need to modify the existing line
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[15:18] <xrosnight> i've made a reference for L7805CV, a regulator chip http://blog.csdn.net/spaceship20008/article/details/8466085
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[15:19] <frikinz> teh_orph: sorry I didn't get it. what effects on your pi does it have to increase it from 8k to 12k?
[15:19] <teh_orph> I was given this info from asb
[15:20] <frikinz> "eth driver is constantly waiting" doesn't seem like an improvment so I must have gotten this wrong :)
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[15:20] <teh_orph> so not super sure
[15:20] <BWMerlin> teh_orph: I have made the changes I will check out the log files and then reboot
[15:20] <frikinz> I've changed it, just wondering. I've had instability also but never went out of ram. whole bcm layer locked or usb disconnect
[15:21] <teh_orph> with my X driver the ethernet driver frequently runs out of memory with the 8k option
[15:21] <teh_orph> but rarely does it with 12
[15:21] <teh_orph> it appears to simply give its memory away when anything else in the kernel asks for memory
[15:21] <teh_orph> ...but then moan about it
[15:22] <BWMerlin> ShiftPlusOne: which log/s should I be looking at?
[15:22] <BWMerlin> I am impressed at the download speeds it can get on these torrents
[15:22] <BWMerlin> I have limited the upload speed back a lot to try and ease it up a little
[15:22] <frikinz> BWMerlin: kern.log probably
[15:23] <ShiftPlusOne> BWMerlin, No idea, I'd look at all of the ones I mentioned. the kern* and messages* ones.
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[15:25] <frikinz> zcat -f kern.log.* | grep -B 5 "/proc/kmsg started"
[15:25] <frikinz> could work
[15:25] <frikinz> oh Dec 22 00:10:04 raspberrypi kernel: [82276.342754] usb 1-1.3: USB disconnect, device number 5
[15:25] <davzie> zcat?
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[15:26] <frikinz> oh
[15:26] <frikinz> Dec 21 00:08:39 raspberrypi kernel: [269643.991417] [<c0042e3c>] (kthread+0x84/0x8c) from [<c000e930>] (kernel_thread_exit+0x0/0x8)
[15:26] <frikinz> Dec 21 01:08:46 raspberrypi kernel: [273250.838997] smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0: eth0: Failed to read register index 0x00000114
[15:26] <teh_orph> woof
[15:26] <davzie> Oh I see, zcat uncompresses gzipped stuff and spits it to STDOUT
[15:26] <davzie> nice!
[15:27] <frikinz> This last one locked everything
[15:27] <frikinz> davzie: yes and -f also allows non zipped stuff. not sure if zgrep allows it
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[15:27] <davzie> For non zipped stuff wouldn't I use cat
[15:27] <frikinz> Yes but not on the same one command ;)
[15:28] <davzie> ? With cat I can just do cat /path/to/file.txt
[15:28] <davzie> zcat /path/to/compressedfile.gz
[15:28] <frikinz> actually zcat -f kern.log* | grep -B 5 "/proc/kmsg started"
[15:29] <frikinz> davzie: yes but the pattern kern.log* expands to kern.log and kern.log.1.gz etc.. so format is sometimes plain or zipped. -f allows both
[15:29] <davzie> Oh that's smart I see.
[15:29] <davzie> Cheers :)
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[15:32] <frikinz> What's the command to start qemu-system arm on the latest raspbian img? especially the -kernel. I try -kernel kernel.img . Doesn't work.
[15:33] <ShiftPlusOne> frikinz, what kernel are you using?
[15:33] <frikinz> I've just unpacked the .img.zip :) so the one inside. Need a special one?
[15:34] <ShiftPlusOne> frikinz, yeah, http://xecdesign.com/qemu-emulating-raspberry-pi-the-easy-way/
[15:34] <ShiftPlusOne> you need a kernel that supports the hardware qemu emulates
[15:34] <ShiftPlusOne> though trolus on the forum is working on a proper raspberry pi target which can boot the real kernel.
[15:35] <frikinz> ok. let me see
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[15:35] <linuxboy> hey guys
[15:35] <ShiftPlusOne> wget http://xecdesign.com/downloads/linux-qemu/kernel-qemu
[15:35] <ShiftPlusOne> qemu-system-arm -kernel kernel-qemu -cpu arm1176 -m 256 -M versatilepb -no-reboot -serial stdio -append "root=/dev/sda2 panic=1" -hda 2012-10-28-wheezy-raspbian.img
[15:36] <linuxboy> I got a Logitech F310 gamepad that I'm trying to get to work on my Pi
[15:36] <linuxboy> it doesn't appear in /dev/input/
[15:36] <linuxboy> any ideas?
[15:36] <xzr> modprobe joydev ?
[15:36] <xzr> or was it devjoy
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[15:36] <linuxboy> joydev
[15:36] <linuxboy> doesn't help
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[15:36] <ShiftPlusOne> dmesg output might give a hint
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[15:37] <tb01110100> Is there any difference between the Arch build provided by the RPi Downloads and a generic Arch ARM build?
[15:37] <linuxboy> ShiftPlusOne: nothing
[15:37] <linuxboy> ShiftPlusOne: the device is seen by USB
[15:38] <ShiftPlusOne> and when you load the module?
[15:38] <linuxboy> oh right
[15:38] <linuxboy> let me test
[15:38] <ShiftPlusOne> google the hardware id as well, to make sure you're using the right module
[15:38] <mumbles> well tahts my tax retrun done
[15:40] <frikinz> ShiftPlusOne: yes the kernel worked. it boots and gives me a fsck died when trying to mount root. so mounted as readonly. fsck tells me mmcblk0p2 non existent. mmhh
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[15:40] <nischay> HI can you suggest me a sd card for my pi
[15:40] <ShiftPlusOne> frikinz, need to change that to /dev/sda2
[15:40] <ShiftPlusOne> modify fstab, I guess.
[15:40] <nischay> My first one of class 4 now goes bad
[15:40] <ShiftPlusOne> and do you have the root=/dev/sda2 option in the append string?
[15:42] <frikinz> Ok modified fstab. yes sda2 in kernel params
[15:43] <ShiftPlusOne> So the latest raspbian image doesn't "just work" without modifying files in the image? =(
[15:43] <ShiftPlusOne> Sounds like I have some article updating to do later then.
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[15:44] <frikinz> mdoules.deps.bin also missing in /lib/modules/3.6.8. kmod doesn't like
[15:44] <ShiftPlusOne> meh
[15:44] <frikinz> ah raspi-config
[15:46] <linuxboy> this is what I get when I plug my gamepad in:
[15:46] <linuxboy> http://pastebin.com/meJvkQTZ
[15:46] * nid0 rages
[15:47] <TAFB> nid0: you gonna go postal?
[15:47] <nid0> i'd probably calm down if someone had figured out how to stab people in the face over the internet but that seems to be one innovation that is sadly still unavailable to us
[15:47] <linuxboy> if I plug it in my desktop, I get this: http://pastebin.com/26NvvBAz
[15:48] <nid0> we have a customer not receiving mail from a particular sender, because our systems are rejecting it due to an SPF failure
[15:48] <nid0> and the sender is telling our customer that this somehow is our fault
[15:48] <Mike-N-Go> Cannot wait to try MinecraftPi!
[15:48] <ParkerR_> Anybody know how to get a controller working in an emulator launched by emulationstation? emulationstation comes up with an auto config but only for the main program and not the emualtors
[15:49] <ShiftPlusOne> Mike-N-Go, you can try it already.
[15:49] <ParkerR_> *emulators
[15:49] <linuxboy> ParkerR_: you need to run retroarch-joyconfig or something
[15:49] <Mike-N-Go> Depends if I got the Raspberry Pi up and running =D
[15:49] <ShiftPlusOne> ah ok
[15:49] <ParkerR_> linuxboy, Aha thanks
[15:49] <dreamreal> is there a good way to simulate circuits through software? I know of spice and other such things, but they're not entirely clear to me
[15:49] <ParkerR_> I saw no mention of that
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[15:51] <ShiftPlusOne> dreamreal, there's a less powerful, but more user friendly online java circuit simulator
[15:51] <ShiftPlusOne> but you should really take the time to learn pspice
[15:51] <dreamreal> ShiftPlusOne: any good tutorials you know of?
[15:51] <ShiftPlusOne> Here's the java one http://www.falstad.com/circuit/
[15:51] <Hodapp> dreamreal: oh, you look familiar. I think I'd seen you in ##java.
[15:51] <ShiftPlusOne> Don't know any tutorials, just trial and error
[15:52] <ParkerR_> linuxboy, Hmm that only prints the config I need to the terminal. Where do I store that?
[15:52] <dreamreal> Hodapp: probably so.
[15:52] <Hodapp> dreamreal: Honestly, though, we can't answer this question without a test case.
[15:52] <linuxboy> ParkerR_: in the config file, I'm not sure where it is. Let me see if I have it installed somewhere so I can let you know
[15:52] <ShiftPlusOne> dreamreal, place the components, specify simulation parameters (from what time to what time and how many samples), put in the probes and run the simulation... that's the general jist of it.
[15:52] <dreamreal> Hodapp: haha
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[15:53] <ParkerR_> Hmm nvm retroarch-joyconfig -o ~/.retroarch.cfg
[15:53] <ParkerR_> Ill try that
[15:53] <linuxboy> ParkerR_: cool
[15:55] <TAFB> mornin ParkerR_ :)
[15:55] <ParkerR_> Umm it worked
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[15:55] <linuxboy> ParkerR_: \o/
[15:55] <ParkerR_> But Mario sound is way slower than normal
[15:55] <ParkerR_> Like pitch is lower and speed drops
[15:56] <linuxboy> yeah
[15:56] <linuxboy> it does that
[15:56] <linuxboy> overclock I think
[15:56] <ParkerR_> Im at 800mhz
[15:56] <ParkerR_> Worked fine before controller :<
[15:56] <ParkerR_> Occasional speed drop but nothing like this
[15:57] <Hodapp> dreamreal: It really depends on the type of circuit you're wanting to simuate, and what behavior you're wanting information on.
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[15:59] <dreamreal> Hodapp: *nod* I guess I'm flailing, mostly because I'm trying to learn hobby electronics and I'm not really leaning in a particular direction. I can "generate circuits," I think, but I don't really understand the inputs and outputs that I'm seeing.
[16:00] <Hodapp> dreamreal: But are you concerned with digital behavior at a gate level? Steady-state analog behavior? More general analog?
[16:01] <dreamreal> Hodapp: errrr.... well, that's just it. I can look at those and nod wisely, in total ignorance :)
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[16:06] <akulbe> What kinds of things are you guys using your rPi for?
[16:07] <TAFB> akulbe: web server (pancake or nginx) and e-mail server (Citadel)
[16:07] <g4mbit> i'd like to use it as a piratebox
[16:07] <akulbe> g4mbit: piratebox?
[16:08] <g4mbit> yes http://wiki.daviddarts.com/PirateBox
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[16:09] <MalMen> hi
[16:09] <akulbe> g4mbit: how can you ensure that it doesn't get used for anything that will get you in trouble? (illegal porn, criminal stuff)
[16:10] <g4mbit> because it's running offline
[16:10] <g4mbit> and if there would be illegal stuff being uploaded, i can see it and delete it
[16:10] <MalMen> anyone here know if arch for pi have ssh installed and initializated?
[16:10] <g4mbit> i'm honest, i would not delete usual media files, but crap like cp for sure
[16:12] <TAFB> MalMen: i don't believe either
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[16:12] <g4mbit> i travel alot, and have that software installed on my AAOne netbook. pretty funny at all while sitting in a train
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[16:15] <akulbe> g4mbit: how often do people join?
[16:16] <g4mbit> well, in a full train i get about 6-7 connections in an hour
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[16:16] <g4mbit> sometimes more
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[16:16] <akulbe> anything interesting happen, when you get those connections? you ever get interesting stuff, have interesting conversations?
[16:17] <g4mbit> sure, got a cop on the box once :D
[16:17] <akulbe> whoa
[16:17] <akulbe> what did they say?
[16:17] <g4mbit> he just said it's an interresting idea
[16:17] <IT_Sean> lol
[16:17] <g4mbit> and well done at all to communicate with people when there is no internet connection avaiable
[16:19] <Hodapp> akulbe: my RPi is now driving this: http://vimeo.com/30413454
[16:19] <g4mbit> and uploaded stuff? well, all kind of different things
[16:20] <Hodapp> akulbe: is this for some sort of school assignment?
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[16:22] <akulbe> Hodapp: Not at all. Just curious.
[16:24] <g4mbit> i like the idea to use the RPi with a power pack attached
[16:24] <g4mbit> you can keep your machine running all the time ^^
[16:24] <g4mbit> and take it with you
[16:24] <akulbe> I'm just bought a display with an HDMI input. Going to put it on my desk at home and use the rPi like a regular machine to do Python stuff with.
[16:25] <akulbe> I noticed there's a Fedora distro for the Pi? I'm guessing that running a GUI-based distro would be rather slow?
[16:25] <akulbe> or would that be a bad assumption to make...
[16:26] <AtomPhil> you can run fedora without X
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[16:26] <ShiftPlusOne> you can run any distro without X... I am not sure what a gui-based distro is O_o
[16:26] <akulbe> you can run any distro without X
[16:27] <akulbe> ShiftPlusOne: Okay, so I didn't use exactly the right words...
[16:27] <akulbe> you know what I'm trying to say
[16:27] <plugwash> is really depends what GUI apps you run
[16:27] <akulbe> I'm guessing the most common app that would be run would be a browser.
[16:27] <ShiftPlusOne> it's usable, but I prefer command line on rpi
[16:27] <plugwash> if you run GUI apps that haven't changed much in decades it's fine, if you start trying to run things like iceweasal it's not so good
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[16:28] <plugwash> web browsers are one of the biggest sore points :( the lightweight ones (dillo, netsurf etc) tend to have poor compatibility and the more mainstream ones are slow to say the least :(
[16:29] <akulbe> yep... I kind of figured it'd be that way
[16:30] <frikinz> I'm getting network problems with qemu-system-arm. The host is debian. Sometimes apt-get just hangs.
[16:34] <DexterLB> what is the best way to enable Turbo mode on arch linux? so far I've been able to do it by setting overclock options in config.txt and manually setting the cpufreq governor to "ondemand" on every boot; is there a better way? is there a way to make "ondemand" the default governor, instead of using a script to set it?
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[16:37] <ShiftPlusOne> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/CPU_Frequency_Scaling should have what you're after.
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[16:39] <ShiftPlusOne> enable and start the cpupower daemon, I guess. What's the default governor on the rpi arch image?
[16:42] <DexterLB> performance :(
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[16:42] <DexterLB> I will try the cpupower daemon
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[17:01] <frikinz> Problem solved by using a bridged net conf. weird NAT had problems.
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[17:12] <BWMerlin> hmm looks like every time I close my console connect to deluge running on my pi it crashes
[17:13] <yaMatt> deluge crashes?
[17:13] <herdingcat> anyone ever compiled openmpi in RPi?
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[17:18] <BWMerlin> the whole pi dies
[17:18] <BWMerlin> becomes unresponsive to pings and to local input
[17:18] <BWMerlin> i have it on mild overclock so I will take that off and see how that goes
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[17:28] <frikinz> found anything in the logs?
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[17:30] <Hodapp> g4mbit: are there power packs that are good for this?
[17:32] <AtomPhil> anybody here successfully installed Slackware on a Pi? I can't get my head round the media source step
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[17:39] <g4mbit> Hodapp: I believe so. I just dont know anything about the capacity
[17:41] <Hodapp> got a link?
[17:41] <g4mbit> one sec
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[17:42] <g4mbit> http://www.rpiforum.net/forum/tutorials/article/17-how-to-portably-power-your-raspberry-pi-with-a-battery/
[17:42] <g4mbit> oh well :D
[17:43] <g4mbit> i found the needed information
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[17:49] <KiltedPi> Damn. A part for this OWI robotic arm I'm building with my friends eight year old has gone missing.
[17:49] <KiltedPi> Little bugger
[17:50] <KiltedPi> :(
[17:50] <KiltedPi> A tiny wee black plastic circle.
[17:51] <IT_Sean> Is it important?
[17:51] <KiltedPi> Unfortunately so
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[17:52] <KiltedPi> Its part of the joint for a limb
[17:52] <KiltedPi> :(
[17:52] <KiltedPi> I'm suspicious that he might of nicked it
[17:52] <IT_Sean> So, it IS important. :/
[17:52] <KiltedPi> Took it home to play with
[17:52] <KiltedPi> So I've told his mother
[17:53] <IT_Sean> :o
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[17:56] <Hodapp> http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-External-Blackberry-Sensation-Thunderbolt/dp/B005VBNYDS/ - huh, so is something like this basically a UPS for USB?
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[17:57] <Hodapp> if no AC adapter is included, do you charge it with USB?
[17:58] <gordonDrogon> Hodapp, more or less, although they don't charge and feed at the same time.
[17:58] <Hodapp> aww
[17:58] <Hodapp> I was hoping for something like that.
[18:00] <gordonDrogon> I've seen someone powering a Pi with something similar to that.
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[18:09] <Amadiro> hm, can't get opengl to overlay on top of VC video output... it just puts the VC in an unusable state until I reboot...
[18:10] <Amadiro> I suspect xbmc does it by (in some way or other) rendering the video to an offscreen surface and then map that to a quad or so
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[19:03] <akulbe> are there any rPi-specific distros that you can boot and have DHCP already working?
[19:04] <akulbe> or is the only way I'm going to be able to do an install is have the display plugged in, and manually configure everything?
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[19:05] <ShiftPlusOne> akulbe, what do you mean? I think you've just described all of the distros
[19:06] <ShiftPlusOne> raspbian and arch at least
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[19:10] <Datalink> http://hackaday.com/2013/01/04/turning-a-raspberry-pi-into-an-snes/
[19:10] <pksato> (old news) Accelerated X driver testing http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=28294
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[19:11] <Datalink> mine's an NES cart reader someone made as an i2c device with a RPi port
[19:11] <gordonDrogon> akulbe, yea, raspbian certianly uses dhcp - I had to turn it off!
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[19:15] <gordonDrogon> pksato, I hardly thing something posted an hour ago is old news...
[19:15] <akulbe> ShiftPlusOne: some of the live-CD distros start the network when they boot
[19:16] <gordonDrogon> Hm. that's my I2C shim written for wiringPi. Now what do I have to test it with...
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[19:19] <Kriss3d> Hi everyone. Is it possible with win32 disk imager to clone a SD card of say 4GB and put that on a 16GB card and have it use the 16GB or will it partition it just to 4GB ?
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[19:19] <akulbe> Okay... so if I'm trying to SSH into my freshly-booted startup disk (Raspbian hasn't been installed yet, that's what I'm trying to do)... what credentials would I use? or is it too premature?
[19:20] <akulbe> because when I try to SSH, I'm getting a prompt.
[19:20] <Kriss3d> akulbe well youd want to install the system before trying to SSH to it
[19:20] <Kriss3d> the SSH is a program in linux (in your case raspbian)
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[19:21] <akulbe> Kriss3d: it looks like both networking and SSH daemons have started on the installer. Was going to try and see if I could do the install over SSH
[19:21] <akulbe> I have the rPi at work, and no way to plug in a display.
[19:22] <akulbe> In between builds I'm trying to get the rPi set up.
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[19:23] <Kriss3d> ah. uhmm well i gotta say i havent tried that. Im not even sure how that would work.
[19:24] <akulbe> right... it was worth a try
[19:24] <Kriss3d> as the installer runs by itself by the boot image (at least on raspbmc which im using)
[19:24] <Kriss3d> do you get to a login prompt ?
[19:24] <akulbe> I do
[19:24] <Kriss3d> cause if its like raspbmc the username is pi and password is raspberry
[19:24] <Kriss3d> its worth a shot..
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[19:25] <akulbe> hot damn
[19:25] <akulbe> that worked
[19:25] <Kriss3d> how do you start the installer then ?
[19:25] <Kriss3d> i mean.. whats it called to run ? or are you just at the prompt ?
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[19:26] <akulbe> it looks like raspi-config will do it...
[19:26] <jsin> Where do I find a good Android image file for rpi?
[19:26] <Hodapp> hm, have any even been released?
[19:26] <Kriss3d> there is an android in the works..
[19:26] <ShiftPlusOne> imagination-land, I think.
[19:27] <Hodapp> when I looked online, it was basically "build old CM yourself"
[19:27] <Kriss3d> I even had a VMware with android installed on my computer once..
[19:27] <akulbe> the motd said "This raspberry pi isn't fully configured - enter sudo raspi-config"
[19:27] <ShiftPlusOne> right next to the windows 7 images
[19:27] <jsin> hmmmm
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[19:27] <Kriss3d> akulbe not bad.
[19:27] <IT_Sean> I don't think the android release is released yet
[19:27] <Hodapp> IT_Sean: that's the idea I got.
[19:27] <Kriss3d> yeah i dont think its released yet
[19:28] <Hodapp> as much as I'd like to run Android on my Pi so I can run XBMC on it... er... wait...
[19:28] <IT_Sean> Be interisting to see once it is, though.
[19:28] <IT_Sean> Might be enough for me to buy a pi :p
[19:28] <Kriss3d> hodapp you mean sorta like raspbmc ?
[19:28] <Hodapp> hah, yeah :P
[19:28] <Kriss3d> which is Xbmc for raspberry
[19:28] <Kriss3d> thats what i got on mine
[19:28] <ShiftPlusOne> akulbe, the raspbian image is a full distro, it's not an installer. raspi-config is just a configuration tool for the beginners.
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[19:29] <jsin> I found a cyanmodgen image for rpi
[19:29] <jsin> I'll try that one
[19:29] <Hodapp> I heard CM ran like crap though
[19:29] <Kriss3d> ShiftPlusOne, have you tried cloning SD cards using win32 imager ?
[19:30] <ShiftPlusOne> Kriss3d, nope, not a fan of doing this sort of thing on windows.
[19:30] <jsin> It might
[19:30] <Kriss3d> cause when i try it just makes a like 70MB file and when i wanna write that to my 16GB SD which i just bought today, Windows shows it as a using about 4MB out of 60..
[19:31] <ShiftPlusOne> Kriss3d, it's copying the fat32 partition rather than the whole disk, i think.
[19:31] <Kriss3d> ShiftPlusOne, me either.. but since my work throws computergear at me i have to use windows to manage servers n stuff
[19:31] <ShiftPlusOne> try roadkil's disk images.
[19:31] <ShiftPlusOne> *imager
[19:31] <ShiftPlusOne> www.roadkil.net/program.php?ProgramID=12
[19:31] <jsin> I use Roadkil's, works fine
[19:32] <Kriss3d> ok ill try that. thanks
[19:32] <Datalink> I should back up my image...
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[19:34] <ShiftPlusOne> jelly1, how's your mjpeg thing coming along?
[19:34] <Kriss3d> OK ill try it. .ANd it creates a image of the entire SD card ? and its able to format the new SD which is bigger ?
[19:34] <jsin> other than gcompris, anyone have some game recommendations for a 5 year old to install on the rpi?
[19:34] <ShiftPlusOne> jelly1, I see a lot of stuff about hardware accelerated jpeg decoding on the forum and there's a hello_jpeg example as well.
[19:35] <booyaa> lo dudes anyone got a better tut than this for setting up cups/airprint on the pi? http://rohankapoor.com/2012/06/configuring-the-raspberry-pi-as-an-airprint-server/
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[19:36] <Kriss3d> Hmm is there any good android apps to play music and videos via airplay to the raspberry ?
[19:37] <jsin> For some reason, when I boot up the rpi, my logitech wireless keyboard/touchpad combo device doesn't work until I unplug and replug the dongle. It works after reseating the dongle. Anyway to avoid having to do that on every boot?
[19:37] <Datalink> jsin, I haven't seen that with mine, maybe a powered hub?
[19:38] <jsin> I'll have to pick up a powered hub, I was thinking that might be part of it
[19:41] <jelly1> ShiftPlusOne: yes hello_jpeg is what i am onworking on
[19:41] <Kriss3d> i had an issue where i could not access my rasp at all unless a keyboard was plugged in.. quite odd as it would get the IP once i checked but i couldnt even ping the sucker.. it will just fine now though
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[19:41] <ShiftPlusOne> jelly1, any luck tranferring that over to mjpeg?
[19:41] <jelly1> not yet
[19:41] <Kriss3d> hehe my colleague paid a fortune for a squeezerbox and a NAS which he bragged about and wanted to connect
[19:42] <ShiftPlusOne> ah
[19:42] <Kriss3d> only thing is.. he cant install a squeezebox server on his big expensive nas.. but a 35$ RB-P can..
[19:43] <jelly1> ShiftPlusOne: i have to invest more time ;)
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[19:45] <Kriss3d> how does Wifi dongles work ? i got one somwhere but what about drivers ? though i belive it worked out of the box with linux when i tested it last
[19:46] <DexterLB> I unpacked a standard 2G image on a 16G SD card, and I've done some changes to it (I haven't expanded the partitions, it's still 2G). How can I save the image for use on a 2G card?
[19:46] <jelly1> hmm i wonder if openelec is better then raspbmc?
[19:47] <sraue> sure
[19:47] <jelly1> sraue: how is it better ;)
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[19:48] <ShiftPlusOne> sraue's opinion may be a bit... biased on that one.
[19:48] <DexterLB> will "dd bs=1024 count=2048 if=/dev/my_sd_card of=some_image" work?
[19:48] <jelly1> hehe
[19:48] <ShiftPlusOne> It depends on what you need from the distro
[19:48] <sraue> :-)
[19:48] <jelly1> ShiftPlusOne: XBMC :)
[19:48] <ShiftPlusOne> then openelec is the way to go
[19:48] <jelly1> ugh raspbmc seems to be in an endless loop yay
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[19:48] <Hodapp> ShiftPlusOne: why?
[19:49] <jelly1> ShiftPlusOne: i just want the most updated version of xbmc really; )
[19:49] <sraue> define better... its smaller, easyer to update, more often updated, contains XBMC-RC3 then RC2....
[19:49] <jelly1> sraue: now that sounds good
[19:49] <jelly1> time to save my xbmc profile
[19:49] <Kriss3d> DexterLB, Yeah i got same issue. i need to expand a 4GB image to fit 16 too
[19:49] <sraue> and if you have problems and questions you are welcome to #openelec too
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[19:49] <ShiftPlusOne> Hodapp, I like the fact that it's light and comes only with what it needs and doesn't try to be more than a media player distro.
[19:49] <jelly1> sraue: not if i can just dd it
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[19:50] <ShiftPlusOne> but ofcourse that's a personal judgment call.
[19:50] <jelly1> http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php?title=Installing_OpenELEC_on_Raspberry_Pi aha
[19:50] <jelly1> don't we love biased opionions :P
[19:51] <Kriss3d> well id say: Save your raspbmc image then install openelec on it and see what suits you the best..
[19:51] <ShiftPlusOne> DexterLB, that will copy the whole disc, not just the 2gb.
[19:51] <Kriss3d> ive only tried raspbmc and i gotta say it suits my needs. i can even do a \\rasp-ip on my pc and i got access to the USB Hdd connected to it
[19:52] <DexterLB> ShiftPlusOne: why? isn't that the purpose of count?
[19:52] <sraue> Kriss3d, such features we have too :-)
[19:52] <Kriss3d> only problem ive encountered is that moving somthing like 50GB files to the HDD on the rasp makes it eventually lose connection
[19:52] <ShiftPlusOne> DexterLB, oh sorry, I didn't see the 'count'
[19:52] <Kriss3d> sraue yeah afterall.. raspbmc IS debian - only shaved down a bit
[19:52] <DexterLB> ShiftPlusOne: so this should copy exactly 2G?
[19:53] <ShiftPlusOne> DexterLB, not sure. I'd take the trial and error approach.
[19:53] <jelly1> i want stable and bleeding edge ;)
[19:53] <ShiftPlusOne> or study the manpage closer to make sure your units are right.
[19:54] <jelly1> sraue: where is openelec based on?
[19:54] <DexterLB> ShiftPlusOne: trial+error it is :)
[19:54] <ShiftPlusOne> jelly1, everything is compiled from source for openelec, it's not based on anything else.
[19:54] <sraue> its a bit unclear what raspbmc is, basically its based on raspbian, but if you ask the raspbmc guys they say its not raspbian...
[19:54] <jelly1> ShiftPlusOne: oh it's a whole differetn distro
[19:54] <jelly1> *different
[19:55] <sraue> its more a mix between raspbian and self compiled/created/adapted stuff
[19:55] <Kriss3d> ive read that raspbmc is raspbian but costumized
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[19:55] <jelly1> it probably is
[19:55] <ShiftPlusOne> jelly1, yeah the 'downside' is that you can't "apt-get" stuff or run a full distro.... it's just xbmc and the various plugins/extensions
[19:55] * jelly1 hopes openelec has systemd :p
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[19:55] <jelly1> ShiftPlusOne: oh but i have an seperate SD card for XBMC, so that suits me ;)
[19:56] <sraue> jelly1, partly... for the udev part we have systemd... for the init its planned for a later version
[19:56] <Kriss3d> ShiftPlusOne, uhmm i run raspbmc but i got apt-get on it.. its built in it
[19:56] <jelly1> sraue: cool
[19:56] <jelly1> would mean a speedy boot :)
[19:56] <ShiftPlusOne> Kriss3d, talking about openelec
[19:56] <DexterLB> ShiftPlusOne: for xbmc I tried raspbian, and decided that it doesn't suit my taste; then I tried OpenELEC, but it turns out that you can't configure much since it uses a read-only FS (squash-based? correct me if I'm wrong)
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[19:56] <DexterLB> now I am using Arch linux
[19:56] <jelly1> what
[19:57] <DexterLB> I built and configured xbmc myself, set everything to my tastes, and now I'm happy :)
[19:57] <jelly1> raspbmc has an ugly frontend for stuff though
[19:57] <DexterLB> yeah
[19:57] <sraue> jelly1, we have own init scripts... optimized to be speedy... before systemd was launched we already used this and had boottimes from <10sec on "normal" systems
[19:57] <jelly1> sraue: nice/ not that i care about speed that much ;)
[19:57] <Kriss3d> gotta bo. be back later
[19:57] <Hodapp> I'll give OpenElec a try. Does it output to composite just fine?
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[19:57] <jelly1> soon mine will output to hdmi
[19:57] * jelly1 has yet to buy a 40" tv
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[19:58] <sraue> Hodapp, not sure not tested composite... but i have read yesterday a article where it works after 1 or 2 config.txt changes
[19:58] <jelly1> i am going to test composite ;)
[19:58] <jelly1> sraue: does it have ssh out of the box?
[19:59] <Hodapp> I have HDMI but half the reason I want to install this is to bring to friend's places and some of them have only composite on their TVs
[19:59] <jelly1> Hodapp: like me ;)
[19:59] <Hodapp> my MK802 runs Netflix and XBMC just fine but it's HDMI only
[19:59] <jelly1> nice
[19:59] <sraue> jelly1, ssh is enabled out of the box
[19:59] <sraue> samba too
[19:59] <jelly1> good
[19:59] <jelly1> ugh samba :p
[20:00] <ShiftPlusOne> jelly1, just don't expect to be able to modify the main rootfs files.
[20:00] <sraue> to fill your rpi with bits and bytes
[20:00] <ShiftPlusOne> *easily
[20:00] <jelly1> ShiftPlusOne: i just need to modify /home
[20:00] * ShiftPlusOne wonders if there's even a home.
[20:00] <ShiftPlusOne> I know there's a 'storage' partition
[20:00] <jelly1> if not I wouldnt even care ;)
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[20:00] <jelly1> setup is easy
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[20:01] <ShiftPlusOne> Well, just try it. I don't use it, but I quite like it.
[20:01] <sraue> /storage is your /home
[20:01] <jelly1> hehe
[20:01] <sraue> and this is a whole own partition
[20:04] <jelly1> and there goes the sd card :)
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[20:05] <jelly1> composite seems to work out of the box Hodapp :)
[20:08] <booyaa> wow cups printing is slow
[20:09] <pksato> next challenge, connect it to rpi. http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/2621/webcammodulesony.jpg
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[20:11] <jelly1> hehe
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[20:12] <ShiftPlusOne> duct tape
[20:13] <jelly1> hmml ctrl+alt+del did something funny with openbelc :P
[20:13] <jelly1> *openelec
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[20:24] <jelly1> sraue: openelec feels fast
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[20:26] <sraue> jelly1, great to hear :-)
[20:27] <jelly1> :)
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[20:30] <xrosnight> hey is there anyone who runs WiringPi-PHP successfully?
[20:31] <xrosnight> someone ? :)
[20:35] * jelly1 doesnt run that
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[20:44] <xrosnight> what s all doing
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[20:49] <TAFB_afk> xrosnight: atouk does, he set it up on his php status page
[20:49] <xrosnight> atouk, is he here . i am setting it on my server now
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[20:50] <TAFB_afk> if you snag the source code from my http://tafb.yi.org
[20:50] <TAFB_afk> (at the bottom)
[20:50] <TAFB_afk> it's got the wiringpi all set up
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[20:50] <xrosnight> TAFB_afk: yeah. but i am trying to write one :)
[20:51] <TAFB_afk> take a look at working code, then cook up your own stuff
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[20:51] <TAFB_afk> it's great cause it shows the status of all of the gpio in/outs, so once you start controlling it you can see it change!
[20:52] <TAFB_afk> with a little jquery you could have it be dynamic and live :)
[20:54] <xrosnight> TAFB_afk: yeah. jquery. that's what i dont know . too sad . i only know how to write php script not javascript. is that easy to use?
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[20:56] <TAFB_afk> is what hard to use? jquery? nope, not at all. All it is is javascript :)
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[21:05] <Kriss3d> Hm aparently the later qparted wont resize the partitions on my SD card..
[21:05] <TAFB_afk> gparted you mean?
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[21:06] <Kriss3d> yes
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[21:06] <TAFB_afk> hmmm, didn't seem to have a problem doing mine? is your boot partition first on the card?
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[21:08] <Datalink> Kriss3d, is the SD card unmounted? gparted won't edit partitions in use
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[21:18] <rikkib> busy little googlebot.
[21:19] * rikkib busy to... Adding googlebot entries to my hosts.deny to stop it continually indexing my ftp server... Over and over again.
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[21:20] <rikkib> 26 entries so far
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[21:21] <mythos> rikkib, hmm... ftp-server? only add a robots.txt file
[21:21] <rikkib> Does robots.txt work with proftpd?
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[21:22] <rikkib> I thought that is for http protocol
[21:22] <mythos> rikkib, if your ftp-server can actually server files, then yes
[21:23] * rikkib will investigate... My ftp server runs from xinetd
[21:24] <rikkib> That standard way is to use hosts.deny for things running from xinetd
[21:25] <Datalink> hm, what's the sshd_config value group to allow scp/sftp? my pi doesn't appear to have them
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[21:35] <DarkTherapy> evening all
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[21:35] <timmmaaaayyy> can anyone tell me the difference between "ln -s" and "ln"
[21:35] <timmmaaaayyy> i don't understand what ln is without the s option
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[21:36] <DarkTherapy> ln -help
[21:36] <DarkTherapy> ln --help
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[21:37] <pizthewiz> Datalink: have you enabled ssh? on wheezy, you can do so via raspi-config or manually via % sudo mv /boot/boot_enable_ssh.rc /boot/boot.rc
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[21:38] <DarkTherapy> timmmaaaayyy: ln --help
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[21:40] <Datalink> pizthewiz, yes, but SCP still fails, I've had to enable it before and just forgot the variable names
[21:40] <sundancer> does anybody know how do i set up git server so i can use it like: git clone git://www.mydomain.org/project.git
[21:40] <Datalink> enabling it on prior servers I've operated
[21:40] <sundancer> ?
[21:41] <Kriss3d> sry Datalink i had to be afk a bit. my gf is sick and i got 2 girls i gotta take care of as well.. yeah it was unmounted and i could edit them. just not resize
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[21:41] <Datalink> Kriss3d, aww, no need to be sorry, take care of your ladies, all partitions unmounted?
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[21:42] <Kriss3d> but when i downloade and installed the network image with the win install and had it booted up it took all 4GB space.. so i figured the network installer makes use of the full partition
[21:42] <nickgaw> Hi, Using the command line what command can I run in raspbian to scan for wireless networks now that my wireless adapter is connected?
[21:42] <tb01110100> Are there any good reasons why Arch ARM wouldn't see my USB Drive?
[21:43] <vorsaykal> tb01110100: Did you check dmesg to see if it said anything about it?
[21:43] <Datalink> Kriss3d, some installers do partition resizing
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[21:44] <Kriss3d> Datalink, excelent then.. i suppose the raspbmc does that.. so ill just have to redo my settings again.. and install the 1channel plugin plus adding the patch
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[21:45] <Datalink> I have spare SD cards for experiment installs, everyone seems to work around a 2 gig image, so I got 2 SDs that are 2gigs each
[21:45] <tb01110100> vorsaykal: I THINK I see it in dmesg...
[21:45] <Kriss3d> well i had one 4gb class 2.. and it works.. but figuring itd be a bottleneck i had my gf buy a 4gb class 10.. though she came home with a 16GB so its all good
[21:46] <KiltedPi> Hey gais
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[21:46] <tb01110100> Hullo, KiltedPi!
[21:46] <Kriss3d> i just wonder.. can i copy all settings from the old image to the new ?
[21:46] <Kriss3d> like copying the /home/pi folder perhaps ?
[21:46] <KiltedPi> Has anyone had any success running Raspbian (Wheezy) in a virtual box machine?
[21:47] <tb01110100> KiltedPi: On a Pi?
[21:47] <KiltedPi> I've got my SD card and reader here, with the-
[21:47] <KiltedPi> Oh! lol
[21:47] <KiltedPi> On a PC!
[21:47] <KiltedPi> :))))
[21:47] <tb01110100> KiltedPi: No wonder...
[21:47] <KiltedPi> That question has probably saved some explaining tb!
[21:47] <KiltedPi> thnx!
[21:47] <KiltedPi> Yes, in a virtual box
[21:47] <tb01110100> KiltedPi: :D
[21:47] <KiltedPi> on my main PC! haha
[21:47] <scummos> i think vbox only emulates same-architecture operating systems, doesn't it
[21:47] <Kriss3d> i wouldnt mind being able to install raspbmc then config it and then put that back into an SD card
[21:48] <KiltedPi> Exactly Kriss
[21:48] <scummos> or can it do different architectures too?
[21:48] <KiltedPi> For speed purposes
[21:48] <KiltedPi> I think its okay with AMD scummos
[21:48] <scummos> ok
[21:48] <scummos> well it won't be fast, in any case.
[21:48] <scummos> it's totally emulated
[21:48] <tb01110100> Also, why do the colors look choppy on my Pi? Is there a driver I can install?
[21:48] <KiltedPi> Ah!
[21:48] <KiltedPi> tb-
[21:48] <KiltedPi> Magpi issue 2 or 3
[21:49] <KiltedPi> For configuring pi
[21:49] <KiltedPi> My HD tv settings made my pi go weird too
[21:49] <Kriss3d> anyone here who happen to have tried "Danish live tv" addon ? i cant make it work
[21:50] <tb01110100> KiltedPi: Know how I can fix it?
[21:50] <tb01110100> Arch w/ LXDE
[21:50] <pksato> tb01110100: rpi is connect to TV by? (hdmi, composite)
[21:50] <tb01110100> pksato: No, connected to Dell monitor via HDMI.
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[21:51] <KiltedPi> Yeah
[21:51] <pksato> ok, see hdmi related on config.txt
[21:51] <KiltedPi> Its in the MagPi, either Issue 2 or 3
[21:51] <tb01110100> JAM...
[21:51] <KiltedPi> I can't remember off the top of my head tb
[21:51] <KiltedPi> :-)
[21:52] <Kriss3d> I SO need a refresh course on how to change the permissions on an entire HDD to give user "pi" write access to everything on it
[21:52] <tb01110100> pksato: HDMI Boost setting?
[21:53] <pksato> tb01110100: my be.
[21:53] <nickgaw> if I change the setting for the cpu overclocking from ondamand to performance will this void the warenty?
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[21:53] <pksato> or, wrong resulution.
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[21:54] <timmmaaaayyy> anyone in here have a QNAP nas?
[21:56] <vorsaykal> Kriss3d: is 'chown -R pi /' what you're looking for? '/' being wherever you mounted the root of the drive.
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[21:56] <tb01110100> pksato: Nope, didn't help.
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[21:57] <pksato> tb01110100: colors look choppy? only colors?
[21:57] <pksato> like a high compressd jpeg?
[21:58] <tb01110100> tb01110100: Just colors. They're not smooth, the have edges...
[21:58] <tb01110100> If that's a good description.
[21:58] <pksato> On text?
[21:58] <tb01110100> pksato: Nope, just colors.
[21:58] <pksato> ?
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[21:59] <nickgaw> my 32 GB sdhc card is working fine in my raspberrypi. why do they not suggest you use them?
[21:59] <pksato> tb01110100: run tvservice -s
[21:59] <pksato> or similar name command
[22:00] <tb01110100> command not found...
[22:00] <pksato> /opt/vc/bin/tvservice -s
[22:01] <tb01110100> /opt/vc/bin/tvservice: error while loading shared libraries: libvchiq_arm.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:01] <pksato> that linux?
[22:02] <tb01110100> tb01110100: Arch ARM.
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[22:03] <tb01110100> whoops :)
[22:03] <tb01110100> pksato: Arch ARM. :)
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[22:03] <pksato> Oh... arch guy don't configure system libs to use /opt/vc/lib :P
[22:04] <tb01110100> :)
[22:04] <tb01110100> Know of any graphics drivers for RPi?
[22:04] <pksato> and, others things.
[22:04] <pksato> test with raspbian.
[22:05] <tb01110100> pksato: It's not a big issue, I already have my Arch all set up. :) I'll head to the forums.
[22:06] <pksato> tvservice -s was to chech current output resolution. and see if match to monitor.
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[22:07] <tb01110100> pksato: Thx for your help!
[22:07] <pksato> use hdmi_ to for correct resolution and framebuffer_width and framebuffer_height http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt
[22:08] <pksato> for -> force
[22:08] <pksato> and, don't have another (usable) graphics driver.
[22:09] <tb01110100> I don't think it's a resolution problem.
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[22:10] <pksato> did not really understand the problem with the colors.
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[22:11] <markedathome> hi folks
[22:12] <KiltedPi> stupid windows 7. Hides drives by default.
[22:12] <KiltedPi> USB SD card reader doesnt show up by default :)
[22:12] <KiltedPi> Also, hey mark
[22:12] <KiltedPi> :/
[22:12] <KiltedPi> New problem: "Card not inserted"
[22:12] <KiltedPi> :S
[22:12] <pksato> time to go...
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[22:12] <KiltedPi> It's going to be one of -those- days
[22:13] <markedathome> have a feeling, just got a sandisk extreme 8gb card, hopefully should be faster than my verbatim 4gb
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[22:15] <ferralis> Has anyone used the new squeezeplug?
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[22:15] <markedathome> I have a usb sound adapter that I can get audio output to with "aplay -D sysdefault:CARD=Device". However anything using pulse goes out the audio jack even though it should be first and/or default audio route.
[22:16] <markedathome> what am I doing wrong, or how do I tell the audio to use the usb adapter, and not the audio jack unless absent.
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[22:19] <fayimora> Does xbmc only play certain video formats? I'm playing an avi file but i can see or hear anything, however the seeker is mving
[22:19] <fayimora> g
[22:19] <fayimora> *moving
[22:22] <markedathome> fayimora: should be fine with an avi. try using mplayer at a command line as that should give you the information for the video as to what it was encoded with
[22:22] <markedathome> also does other video/audio play through mplayer/aplay/omxplayer?
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[22:24] <fayimora> mplayer?
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[22:26] <markedathome> are you able to get to a command line? if so, sudo apt-get install mplayer, mplayer <filename>
[22:26] <markedathome> or are you using a xbmc distro?
[22:27] <fayimora> markedathome: ok i'll do that now
[22:27] <fayimora> markedathome: I installed xbmc via the apt
[22:27] <fayimora> don't know if it's a distro.. don't even know what that means :(
[22:27] <hevauq> i want to make one of my boxes as network media server(using network storage) and use it to stream media on another machine. I am wondering what utilities(server-client) and/or configuration is recommended. Any suggestions?
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[22:29] <Holden> hevauq, have you looked at the wiki? I saw some tutorials there
[22:30] <markedathome> fayimora: you've installed xbmc as an application. a distro is a distribution, a collection of specific OS and applications, for either general purpose like raspbian "wheezy", or specific purposes like openelec img, or raspxbmc.
[22:30] <hevauq> sorry, i didn't check at wiki. i just did generic google search, I didn't nothing useful(or let's say latest).
[22:30] <fayimora> markedathome: oh cool.. yeah i use the wheezy distro
[22:31] <fayimora> mplayer is taking quite a while to install
[22:31] <fayimora> My pi is quite slow.. xbmc is even worse
[22:31] <Holden> hevauq, http://elinux.org/RPi_Guides
[22:31] <fayimora> How do i speed things up? takes like 60secs for a file to play
[22:31] <markedathome> hevauq: you are looking at things like dlna, with either xbmc or openelec,
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[22:31] <fayimora> takes 20secs for chromium to open twitter.com
[22:32] <hevauq> I don't have a gui. I am just using command line over serial, not sure if xmbc is right choice for that.
[22:32] <markedathome> if streaming media across the network from a dlna server on the nas, or you can mount and play using any media player (xine, mplayer, omxplayer, etc.)
[22:33] <hevauq> dlna
[22:33] <markedathome> what is the audio and video output?
[22:34] <linuxstb> fayimora: If you want to know what an avi contains, a quick way is just the "file" command - i.e. "file myvideo.avi"
[22:34] <hevauq> for output I would be using my other linux box
[22:35] <hevauq> so, i guess i also need some kind of client to support that
[22:37] <markedathome> look for "raspberry pi upnp renderer and controller"
[22:38] <hevauq> ok, thanks
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[22:39] <markedathome> for example i stream from an iomega cloud home network, (with twonky media server) using win7 + foobar 2000 to access the library and create the playlist, and then output to the raspberrypi with gmediarender which puts the audio out of the speakers connected.
[22:40] <markedathome> it is a bit convoluted but effectively I can then jump in with an android phone (another upnp controller) and pause, stop, select new tracks etc.
[22:41] <hevauq> ok, my idea is to use pi to play hd movies. my laptop cannot play it
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[22:41] <[deXter]> Hi folks, just have a doubt re. the VC-1 codec: which file formats generally use it?
[22:41] <[deXter]> I'm guessing WMV files but not too sure
[22:41] <hevauq> although for now it is just experimental.
[22:42] <fayimora> how do i access files in an ext hd? there's no /Volumes
[22:42] <[deXter]> fayimora, it depends on your distro. Type "mount" to see if it's been automatically mounted
[22:43] <markedathome> run xbmc or openelec as a distribution (raspxbmc) On the server run something like twonky media server, or bubbleupnp on a windows box that can access the media
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[22:44] <markedathome> hevauq: http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php?title=Building_and_Installing_OpenELEC_for_Raspberry_Pi
[22:44] <markedathome> oops, kept calling it wrong - http://www.raspbmc.com/
[22:44] <[deXter]> There's no need to build OpenELEC when you can download a pre-compiled version..
[22:45] <hevauq> thanks
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[22:45] <hevauq> i can directly compile this on pi box?
[22:45] <[deXter]> Why do you want to compile it?
[22:45] <hevauq> err, sorry wrong timing
[22:46] <hevauq> i am using the stock OS. so if there are binaries for it, I would use it
[22:46] <hevauq> else I guess compilation
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[22:46] <markedathome> yes you can compile, but just for testing to see if it is what you want download an image as it will be tuned.
[22:46] <[deXter]> it's an OS in itself
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[22:46] <fayimora> linuxstb: i got this The.Big.Bang.Theory.S04E01.BDRip.XviD-CLUE.avi: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 624 x 352, 23.98 fps, video: XviD, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)
[22:47] <fayimora> markedathome: what should i be looking at from the output of mplayer <file>
[22:47] <markedathome> the openelec and xbmc takes a while to compile. I haven't had an overnight window in which to time them both yet.
[22:47] <hevauq> err, i am not compiling entire distro
[22:47] <hevauq> i will just be using the stock OS and compiling these utilities
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[22:47] <fayimora> it takes 12 hours hevauq
[22:47] <linuxstb> fayimora: OK, then in theory xbmc should play that.
[22:47] <linuxstb> Have you tried omxplayer?
[22:48] <fayimora> well it does i think.. but no video and sound
[22:48] <fayimora> is that an alternative to xbmc?
[22:48] <markedathome> $ mplayer BitCrush/02\ DJ\ Kutski\ vs\ Paramore\ -\ Bit\ Crushcrushcrush.mp3
[22:48] <markedathome> ...
[22:48] <markedathome> Audio only file format detected.
[22:48] <markedathome> ...
[22:48] <markedathome> AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, floatle, 320.0 kbit/11.34% (ratio: 40000->352800)
[22:48] <markedathome> Selected audio codec: [ffmp3float] afm: ffmpeg (FFmpeg MPEG layer-3 audio)
[22:48] <markedathome> AO: [pulse] 44100Hz 2ch floatle (4 bytes per sample)
[22:48] <markedathome> Video: no video
[22:48] <markedathome> Starting playback...
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[22:49] <linuxstb> fayimora: Sort of. omxplayer is a standalone version of the video player in the Pi version of xbmc.
[22:49] <markedathome> oops, sorry thought I'd edited it more.
[22:49] <pksato> mplayer have support to openmax?
[22:49] <fayimora> markedathome: i have ""
[22:49] <fayimora> AVI file format detected.
[22:49] <fayimora> [aviheader] Video stream found, -vid 0
[22:49] <fayimora> [aviheader] Audio stream found, -aid 1
[22:50] <fayimora> lol i can now see
[22:50] <fayimora> ************************************************
[22:50] <fayimora> **** Your system is too SLOW to play this! ****
[22:50] <fayimora> ************************************************
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[22:51] <linuxstb> fayimora: When you play the video with omxplayer, an omxplayer.log file should get created. That may tell you something.
[22:51] <markedathome> you will need to overclock to get decent performance, also look for things such as drop frame=yes or discardframes=yes
[22:51] <markedathome> it is a bluray rip?
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[22:52] <fayimora> don't think so
[22:52] <fayimora> i tried over clocking with raspi-config
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[22:52] <fayimora> didt seem to have any effect
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[22:53] <markedathome> you may need to have the hardware decode switched on? dunno, I haven't got any bdrip is that around 750 MB in size?
[22:55] <fayimora> they are between 170 - 185MB
[22:55] <fayimora> decode switch? please i'm new to this stuff.. mind walking me through it?
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[22:56] <Herald_of_Chaos> hi !
[22:56] <markedathome> BDRip = BluRay disk Rip> 624 x 352, 23.98 fps, video: XviD; however that is standard size for straight sdtv/pdtv + 2ch audio as such there should be no problems playing it.
[22:56] <linuxstb> markedathome: fayimora said this is an xvid file. That codec is enabled by default - there is nothing to be enabled.
[22:57] <linuxstb> Ah, I think you just said that. ;)
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[22:58] <markedathome> actually standard hdtv rip, not a 720p rip. even then those should play ok.
[22:58] <fayimora> RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 624 x 352, 23.98 fps, video: XviD, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 48000 Hz)
[22:58] <markedathome> the only other thing i can think of is that the decoder isnt up to date? is this a new release or one from a couple of years ago?
[22:58] <MonopolyGuy> Does the rpi play 10-bit encoded files with the latest xbmc beta? Or should I get to transcoding?
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[22:59] <linuxstb> fayimora: Does the omxplayer.log file show anything?
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[22:59] <Herald_of_Chaos> I am a happy owner of a Microsoft 3000 wireless keyboard with sticky keys so i'm unable to login, is there a fix or should i try another way ?
[23:00] <fayimora> linuxstb: haven't installed omxplayer yet
[23:00] <markedathome> Herald_of_Chaos: rpi- usb <-- powered hub !! IMPORTANT !! <-- wireless keyboard receiver.
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[23:00] <linuxstb> fayimora: If you are running Wheezy, you have it already.
[23:00] <Herald_of_Chaos> i don't have one :/
[23:01] <Herald_of_Chaos> guess i'll have to use ssh
[23:01] <markedathome> what voltage / amp are you using to power the pi?
[23:01] <Herald_of_Chaos> i bought an rs alim
[23:02] <markedathome> you might be able to use synergy, http://synergy-foss.org which allows you to run a keyboard and mouse between machines
[23:03] <[deXter]> I have a powered USB hub and the Microsoft wireless keyboards don't work any better, still get sticky keys
[23:03] <[deXter]> I exchanged at the store and went for a Logitech instead
[23:03] <fayimora> markedathome: Output +5V - 1A
[23:03] <Herald_of_Chaos> ty fayimora
[23:04] <Herald_of_Chaos> well in any case it has to be plugged to the net
[23:04] <markedathome> really needs to be >1A, if not 1.2 min. rpi = 700mA, +500 mA for max usb draw on 1 socket. 2A is ideal.
[23:05] <Herald_of_Chaos> ok
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[23:05] <fayimora> hmmm my iPad's adapter says "2.5A 250v ~"
[23:05] <Herald_of_Chaos> i'll use ssh then
[23:05] <[deXter]> Get the targus 7-port usb hub, if you're looking for recommendations - supports upto 3A draw
[23:05] <fayimora> is that ok markedathome
[23:06] <markedathome> fayimora: yes, fine, the devices will draw the power that they need.
[23:06] <fayimora> [deXter]: i got this today http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B0002AFZVM/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00
[23:06] <Herald_of_Chaos> i already invested too much of my student money in it :x
[23:06] <markedathome> dlink dhub7 is also a good powered hub about 20ukp
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[23:08] <[deXter]> fayimora, Yeah, that's known to work well with the Pi
[23:08] <fayimora> Hmm i'll switch to it later then.. already booting with my iPad's charger
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[23:14] <fayimora> markedathome: wow my pi is a little more responsive and not too hot
[23:15] <markedathome> can it play the file?
[23:15] <fayimora> markedathome: it's playing but no video and sound :( :(
[23:15] <markedathome> oh and the hardware decode was for mpg2 and vc1 which are licences that cost 2.40 and 1.20
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[23:16] <fayimora> markedathome: sorry what does that mean?
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[23:16] <markedathome> er, right. let us start from basics - what is your audio output and what is your video output?
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[23:18] <fayimora> markedathome: tbh i don't know
[23:19] <markedathome> are you hdmi to a monitor, composite to a tv? audio through headphones or hdmi?
[23:19] <fayimora> markedathome: oh HDMI
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[23:21] <fayimora> when i hover over the video, i actually see a "screenshot" of the video
[23:21] <fayimora> So i guess it's not a display problem?
[23:23] <markedathome> it isn't a display problem, it sounds as though there is a problem finding the app to play the video.
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[23:23] <markedathome> what does the xbmc log show?
[23:24] <fayimora> let me look for it
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[23:24] <markedathome> also have you tried other video files?
[23:25] <fayimora> markedathome: yeah i tried a .mov file and it didn't work.. Although it worked 2 weeks ago
[23:25] <fayimora> where do i find the logs?
[23:27] <markedathome> er... /home/pi/.xbmc/userdata/
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[23:28] <X-warrior> any ideas on a way to sync the sound between computer and rpi?
[23:28] <X-warrior> over network
[23:28] <markedathome> what do you mean by sync?
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[23:30] <X-warrior> markedathome, I want to play a sound in my computer and rpi at the same time synced
[23:31] <markedathome> videolan player on both from a http streamed output from videolan player?
[23:31] <mythos> X-warrior, what do you want to achieve
[23:31] <markedathome> i'm trying to think of a situation where you won't get audio phase problems... like having two simultaneous radios in the same room
[23:31] <fayimora> markedathome: sorry i'll be back in a bit.. looking for my charger
[23:32] <X-warrior> mythos, I want to walk inside my home and keep listening the same sound I was at me room for example
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[23:33] <X-warrior> without delay
[23:33] <X-warrior> markedathome, I will try vlc, thanks :D
[23:33] <mythos> X-warrior, then you want to broadcast a stream
[23:33] <X-warrior> yes, but usually there is delay between nodes
[23:33] <mythos> an we are not in a perfect world. such thing as "without delay" is not existent
[23:34] <markedathome> oh, like follow me radio? or have some nfc/bluetooth receivers in each room monitor with a upnp controller determining where the renderer is
[23:35] <X-warrior> markedathome, for now I just want synced sound, for example, in a party, one computer playing all rooms playing the same sound
[23:35] <mythos> X-warrior, that's why i said "broadcast" as in ip-broadcast
[23:35] <fayimora> markedathome: no log files :(
[23:35] <markedathome> you really want multicast streaming for that
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[23:36] <markedathome> fayimora: just looking to find out what the media player is, and whether you need to set some explicit options for video and audio in /boot/config.txt, or xbmc config file.
[23:36] <ChubZee> hey all, i have my rpi setup with a tevii s660 usb dvb-s2 tuner running raspbmc/xbmc and tvheadend. tvh detects the tuner fine and lets it find services from muxes but whenever i try and watch live tv i get 'Continuity counter error' with no video or sound, just a black screen, recording throws up similar errors but seems to atempt to make a recording, albeit with errors
[23:36] <X-warrior> broadcast is one to one?
[23:37] <markedathome> depending on the number of endpoints streaming
[23:37] <fayimora> markedathome: oh ok thanks.. http://tinypic.com/r/65ps0o/6
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[23:38] <markedathome> X-warrior: most streaming setups are one to one, multicast setups are effectively 'tuning-in'. more bandwidth efficient, but depends on whether fixed ethernet, wireless or types and numbers of devices
[23:39] <mythos> X-warrior, http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/PulseAudio/Documentation/User/Network/RTP
[23:39] <markedathome> ChubZee: is the dvb-s2 device plugged into the pi or a hub
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[23:39] <mythos> and this: https://www.linux.com/learn/tutorials/332418:weekend-project-using-pulseaudio-to-share-sound-across-all-your-computers
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[23:39] <ChubZee> direct to the pi, it has external power
[23:39] <mythos> but i don't know how good the second tutorial is
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[23:40] <X-warrior> mythos, thanks I will take a look
[23:41] <X-warrior> markedathome, thank you too
[23:41] <markedathome> ChubZee: are you attempting to record hd or standard digital?
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[23:42] <ChubZee> both, get the same errors with both aswell on the rpi, works fine with win7, all the satellite connections are fine too, been pulled from a working sky+ box today
[23:43] <ChubZee> Jan 4 22:42:34 raspbmc tvheadend[1241]: TS: Montage Technology DS3000/TS2020/10,964,250 kHz Horizontal (No satconf)/Channel 5+1: MPEG2VIDEO @ #2321: Continuity counter error, 13 duplicate log lines suppressed
[23:43] <markedathome> is the pi running fast enough? do you need to raise the overclock?
[23:43] <ChubZee> it's clocked to 900mhz which should be fine i guess for sd at least?
[23:43] <ChubZee> radio channels do seem to work fine
[23:43] <markedathome> should be.
[23:43] <ChubZee> i have the mpeg2 licence aswell
[23:44] <markedathome> hmm... can you stream it straight out to the network to another machine? e.g.
[23:45] <ChubZee> from tvheadend?
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[23:47] <markedathome> possibly, though i think you just tell xbmc to output to the other machine. the other machine needs to be registered on the network (e.g. from a windows machine you should see a green play icon for example)
[23:48] <ChubZee> the webapp has a vlc plugin for streaming which works fine
[23:48] <ChubZee> the problem seems to be using the rpi as both front and back end
[23:48] <markedathome> can vlc pull the dvb-s2 streams? you need to tell it where to find the channels.conf file though.
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[23:49] <ChubZee> vlc running on the rpi or another machine?
[23:49] <markedathome> on the rpi
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[23:49] <ChubZee> hm, haven't got it installed
[23:51] <ChubZee> how do i tell it where the channels.conf file is, markedathome ?
[23:51] <ChubZee> fuckin 'ell, 215 new packages to install vlc :s
[23:54] <markedathome> only just installed 7 for me, - vlc -> media -> open capture device -> capture device, mode "tv digital" | select your tune card, and set the dvb-s2 button.
[23:55] <ChubZee> that sounds somewhat gui-ish
[23:55] <ChubZee> i'm in cli exclusively
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[23:57] <hevauq> if let's say I have a drive mounted on computer A using fstab entry and I want to mount the same partition on computer B using NFS. Is that permitted?
[23:57] <markedathome> oh right, dunno what the cli would be, dvb-s2://frequency=<somethingorother>
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[23:58] <markedathome> you might need to run zap utils szap i think for dvb-s*
[23:58] <ChubZee> it seems to be a problem between tvheadend and xbmc, it's working elsewhere, i can record from dvbstream for example
[23:59] <markedathome> hevauq: as long as the users have permissions then yes.
[23:59] <ChubZee> getting an ocassional error with tvheadend->vlc plugin so i think mebbe xbmc

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