#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-01-25

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[0:04] <mark_vh> just to be sure, if i put root=/dev/sda1 in sd cmdline.txt to boot from usb, it uses boot partition from sd, but other partition from usb...right?
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[0:04] <mark_vh> and nothing at all of boot partition on usb?
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[0:06] <axion> it must boot from sd. no way to boot from usb
[0:07] <BaroMeter> this is strange, now it works again
[0:07] <axion> you dont need a boot partition on usb
[0:07] <mark_vh> axion: thanks
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[0:28] <pronto> and my second raspberry pi has been shipped :D
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[0:30] <Torikun> nice
[0:30] <Torikun> your catching up to me
[0:30] <Torikun> lol
[0:31] <pronto> i should already have 2, but mcm screwed up the shipmetn :/
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[0:53] <Hopsy> how do I connect a ssd to my rasperrypi
[0:53] <Hopsy> samsung ssd 830 :p
[0:53] <shiftplusone> O_o
[0:54] <shiftplusone> through usb
[0:54] <Hopsy> it should be possible RIGHT!
[0:54] <Hopsy> but the samsung doesnt have an usb output
[0:55] <shiftplusone> Yeah, I am not sure what you're expecting. You'll need some sata->usb converter with an external power source.
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[0:56] <shiftplusone> which are usually pretty terrible.
[0:56] <cohesioN> is the default raspbian mirror located in the UK?
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[0:59] <plugwash> the server running the mirror redirection system is in the uk, requests for packages (but not for package lists etc) will be redirected to a suitable and preferablly local mirror
[1:02] <cohesioN> just seems really slow, downloading updates at ~100kb/s
[1:02] <cohesioN> unless everyone is that way lol
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[1:07] <ciboulette> my keyboard, a logitech elite, won't work with Pi...someone said those have caused problems for other users as well?
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[1:09] <Torikun> brb later gtg
[1:09] <Torikun> ty
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[1:17] <LilSnoop4> what is a good case for the raspberry pi? i ordered one put it together and the board moves around too much for my liking
[1:18] <Primer> I bought the pi + clear case from MCM. It came in the case, ready to do
[1:18] <Primer> go, even
[1:18] <double-you> LilSnoop4: just fix it ;)
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[1:19] <shiftplusone> LilSnoop4, of the ones i've tried, which isn't many, the RS one is the best at keeping it in place.
[1:21] <seb_m> hey, i have a 16gb SD card and i'd like to use arch linux on my pi. the thing is the default arch img only takes up 2gb, and i'd like to use the whole SD card. how would i accomplish this?
[1:21] <LilSnoop4> shiftplusone you have a link for that one. i assembled the case i ordered when u plug in the different cables the board slides
[1:21] <seb_m> i've read other distros have tools but i am stubborn and want to use arch
[1:21] <LilSnoop4> and the case seems to move around
[1:21] <shiftplusone> seb_m, search the elinux wiki.
[1:22] <flowsnake> seb_m: you can resize the partition
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[1:23] <indigenous> ciboulette: I think the fancier the keyboard the less likely it will work. I have a MS sidewinder x4 and I assumed it didn't work because of the amount of power it was draining; which may be wrong.
[1:23] <shiftplusone> LilSnoop4, I have one of these http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/processor-microcontroller-development-kits/7644389/
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[1:24] <LilSnoop4> shift and the board is snug in there
[1:24] <shiftplusone> Yeah, it has a 'base' into which the pi clips very snugly and then the top parts clips over the base.
[1:25] <LilSnoop4> great thanks!
[1:25] <shiftplusone> no movement at all
[1:25] <flowsnake> LilSnoop4: http://www.amazon.com/SB-Clear-Raspberry-Pi-Enclosure/dp/B008TCUXLW/ is what I have and it is snug
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[1:25] <seb_m> shiftplusone: i looked at http://elinux.org/RPi_Resize_Flash_Partitions#Manually_resizing_the_SD_card_on_Raspberry_Pi the other day. the fdisk command didn't put me in a prompt like i'd expected
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[1:25] <shiftplusone> seb_m, what happened?
[1:26] <shiftplusone> Those steps are somewhat pants, since they assume there's a swap partition by default, but that's not a big deal, everything else seems fine.
[1:26] <seb_m> i can't totally remember, as it was a couple day ago
[1:27] <ciboulette> indigenous: i blaimed power too, but now i have a proper 1.2A power supply and the keyboard says only 75mA, which should be well within reach for the Pi usb port
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[1:27] <seb_m> i think it complained that i provided the wrong params
[1:27] <seb_m> it didn't like the -cu flag
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[1:28] <shiftplusone> seb_m, I'd skip the -cu ... I don't even know what that does off the top of my head... never used them.
[1:28] <seb_m> shiftplusone: ok, i'll try that out
[1:28] <shiftplusone> good luck
[1:28] <seb_m> shiftplusone: i am not a total linux noob, but when it comes to dd / fdisk / etc, i get kind of terrified!
[1:29] <shiftplusone> seb_m, don't worry, the worst thing you can do is blow up the house.
[1:29] <seb_m> exactly, who knows what those gpio pins are capable of
[1:29] <shiftplusone> SOrry, I meant "have to reflash the sdcard"
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[1:30] <shiftplusone> But you're right to be worried about dd and fdisk, those can write over all of your data if you misuse them, so be careful, make sure you know what you're doing and why.
[1:30] <indigenous> ciboulette: I gave up with mine so I do everything via ssh
[1:31] <ciboulette> indigenous: ssh will only work when i have installed it however...using a keyboard
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[1:31] <flowsnake> seb_m: I usually use gparted for that sort of thing for that reason
[1:31] <shiftplusone> ciboulette, false
[1:31] <shiftplusone> ciboulette, ssh is enabled by default, you can ssh in on first boot without any problems.
[1:31] <indigenous> ciboulette: You can install and set up over ssh. It's what I had to do.
[1:31] <seb_m> flowsnake: yeah i'd use gparted if i had any idea how to use it on the pi
[1:32] <seb_m> i've used gparted on VMs before
[1:32] <shiftplusone> you wouldn't use gparted on the pi to resize
[1:32] <flowsnake> seb_m: with mine, I just used another computer to resize it
[1:32] <ciboulette> indigenous: using what?
[1:32] <shiftplusone> maybe you could, but you probably shouldn't.
[1:32] <flowsnake> the windows partitioner failed me but gparted in linux worked fine
[1:32] <ciboulette> shiftplusone: except that the computer doesn't boot anything but an install screen, yeah
[1:32] <seb_m> flowsnake: yeah i have a mac, not sure how i'd boot gparted onto it
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[1:33] <Joeboy> ciboulette: which computer? The pi?
[1:33] <shiftplusone> ciboulette, no, it boots everything and runs a config script for lazy people. You can run it from ssh if you want.
[1:33] <shiftplusone> it's not an install script
[1:33] <ciboulette> shiftplusone: sigh, "it" doesn't boot anything...since the Pi doesn't even come with anything to boot from
[1:34] <Joeboy> If you've given the pi an sd card with raspbian on it, and it's not booting, either your pi or your card is duff
[1:34] <Joeboy> ciboulette: what is "it"?
[1:34] <shiftplusone> ciboulette, what are you talking about? Your main computer doesn't have a keyboard?
[1:34] <ciboulette> Joeboy: indeed, that's what i'm wondering
[1:34] <flowsnake> seb_m: there's a live cd, I guess that would work if you had to
[1:35] <shiftplusone> ciboulette, you flash the image onto the sdcard from your main computer. Then you plug the sdcard into your pi, hook it up to the network and fire it up. That's it.
[1:35] <flowsnake> but there's probably an os x partition editor?
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[1:35] <ciboulette> shiftplusone: if i want to use some preconfigured image...which i don't
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[1:35] <shiftplusone> .....
[1:35] <shiftplusone> What do you want to use?
[1:36] <Joeboy> ciboulette: You want to run an installer on the pi?
[1:36] <ciboulette> Joeboy: i AM running an installer, but since the keyboard doesn't work it's not much more fun than looking at the nice installer screen
[1:36] <Joeboy> ciboulette: What installer?
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[1:36] <ciboulette> Joeboy: official raspbian installer
[1:37] <Joeboy> I didn't know there was such a thing
[1:37] <shiftplusone> Unfortunatly, there is.
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[1:37] <ciboulette> http://archive.raspbian.org/installer/rpi_installer_08-19-12.zip
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[1:38] <Joeboy> ciboulette: If you want to see the boot messages, the only thing I can think is to use a serial console
[1:39] <Joeboy> for which you'd need an ftdi cable
[1:39] <plugwash> well mpthopson put it on archive.raspbian.org which was IMO a mistake
[1:39] <Joeboy> and it probably won't help you
[1:39] <ciboulette> Joeboy: huh?? the problem is my keyboard
[1:39] <seb_m> thanks for your help shiftplusone, flowsnake, everybody
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[1:39] <plugwash> I think calling it "official" is stretching things a bit, it was put together by a third party and afaict it was hacked together not built properly
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[1:39] <shiftplusone> seb_m, got it sorted?
[1:39] <Joeboy> ciboulette: If you saw the boot messages, you might be able to diagnose the problem
[1:40] <Joeboy> ciboulette: although it also might be no help
[1:40] <ciboulette> Joeboy: most of it shoots by too fast to read
[1:40] <Joeboy> Oh, I was imagining you weren't seeing them at all
[1:41] <Joeboy> Is it possible your keyboard is just broken?
[1:41] <ciboulette> ...and i have no idea why i wouldn't, since the problem is the *keyboard*???
[1:42] <Joeboy> what is a keyboard?
[1:42] <shiftplusone> Nuh, the pi isn't too good with fancy keyboards
[1:42] <shiftplusone> especially if it has a built in hub and such-like
[1:42] <ciboulette> shiftplusone: it says 75mA, so the Pi should have no problem powering it
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[1:43] <shiftplusone> ciboulette, does it have a built in hub or backlit keys or an lcd screen?
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[1:44] <ciboulette> shiftplusone: don't think there are any usb ports on it, at least nothing connected
[1:44] <Gordio> Maybe halp some one. config.txt - pastie.org/5852193
[1:44] <ciboulette> shiftplusone: and some of the indicators are lighting up, so i don't think it's power
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[1:45] <shiftplusone> ciboulette, I don't think it's power either, it's just that the usb driver is a bit pants in some case and is picky about the devices it works with.
[1:45] <Gordio> ciboulette, you wrong
[1:45] <LilSnoop4> question, i just got done installing raspberry os on my raspberry board. i installed the version with xbmc. i am controlling it with my phone. when i added in some source it said it didn't load do you wanna still add i hit yes. i know they are good what is causing this? thanks
[1:45] <Gordio> 75mA not once point.
[1:45] <Gordio> Need stable 5V and 75mA
[1:45] <ciboulette> shiftplusone: so basically, i'm screwed with this particular keyboard?
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[1:46] <ciboulette> Gordio: i will just say...HUH?
[1:46] <Gordio> But RasPI have work on 4.8V (for me)
[1:46] <shiftplusone> ciboulette, it's possible, yes. My logitech keyboard didn't work, so I bought a cheap one on ebay for a few dollars.
[1:47] <ciboulette> shiftplusone: sigh, i will see if i can find something else to try
[1:47] <shiftplusone> ciboulette, I'll translate. Even though the supply may say 5V, it may lie or you may have losses in the cable or the polyfuse which may cause a voltage drop. In that case some keyboards are sensitive to voltage as well. I don't think that alternative is likely though, but if you have a multimeter handy, you can quickly check.
[1:47] <ciboulette> shiftplusone: or someone could do a little work on that installer...
[1:48] <shiftplusone> Meh... installers.
[1:48] <ciboulette> shiftplusone: i don't, but i now have a proper power supply, so i'm pretty confident that this is not the issue
[1:48] <Gordio> multimeter not good
[1:48] <ciboulette> shiftplusone: especially since logitech keyboards have caused trouble for people before
[1:49] <Gordio> osciloscope better :D
[1:49] <Gordio> sorry, very bad english
[1:49] <shiftplusone> Gordio, not everyone has a scope... especially if they don't have a multimeter.
[1:50] <ciboulette> Gordio: yes, i will immediately go out and buy a $3000 oscilloscope to diagnose something that almost certainly is not the problem
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[1:50] <shiftplusone> You can get a good scope for about $400.... =p
[1:50] <Gordio> ciboulette, aammmm... sarcasm? :D
[1:51] <shiftplusone> Gordio, lots of it
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[1:51] <Gordio> You can try sold capasitor 1000+ mF to USB keyboard "Power line"
[1:51] <Gordio> Sometimes help.
[1:52] <ciboulette> i wonder what it takes to convince Gordio that i do not have a power supply problem...
[1:52] <shiftplusone> He's just trying to help, heh.
[1:53] <rikkib> Its alive...
[1:53] <Gordio> ciboulette, problem in linux? Ok, show you dmesg :P
[1:53] <ciboulette> i think he's trying to sell me used oscilloscope actually
[1:53] <Gordio> ciboulette, no :) I don't have oscilloscope :(
[1:54] <ciboulette> Gordio: an alternative theory is that you are some sort of bot
[1:54] <Gordio> But I dream about it :-P
[1:54] <rikkib> Power supply fell over on the compaq machine that I use to develop for the RPi... With my cross compiler and dhcp server. Lucky I had a spare supply.
[1:54] <Gordio> ciboulette, I from Ukraine. And for me harder understand language, bicose I know basic English words.
[1:56] <rikkib> I turned it off yesterday and took it with me to the city but did not use it... When to power it up again here and no go.
[1:57] <rikkib> Must remember to clean the supply of dist before winter
[1:57] <rikkib> dust
[1:58] <Gordio> shiftplusone, thx :)
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[1:58] * Gordio now shut up and go away. d(T_T)b
[1:58] <djazz> webradio server (not client!) on the rpi: http://djazz.mine.nu:1337/ :)
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[1:59] <rikkib> RPi with watchdog did not like it with the dhcp off line
[1:59] <rikkib> Could not get an ip and just kept rebooting
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[2:03] <rikkib> Freed up an 8gb sd card when I replaced the sd card on the RPi with a 2gb sd card running nfs root on this cam Now just to have to change ip addresses on that card and get my home test cam going again.
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[2:04] <Coburn> lol rikkib
[2:05] <Coburn> I'm looking at that camera right now
[2:06] <pronto> hey, it's cleaner then my room
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[2:06] <Coburn> why does it say 2PM?
[2:06] <Coburn> And is that a dumpyard?
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[2:11] <LilSnoop4> i am hard wired into the raspberry pi installed the xbmc version. xbmc launched i tried to add source it says... system file manager, then add source i put in http://fusion.xbmchub.com and and another and it didn't add it.
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[2:17] <rikkib> Its alive, its alive. http://www.bencom.co.nz/cam/
[2:17] <rikkib> Haha
[2:18] <rikkib> Super dooper RPi hacker come network engineer.
[2:19] <rikkib> Say 2pm because it is 2pm in NZ
[2:19] * SpeedEvil was watching a nz cam earlier
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[2:19] <SpeedEvil> I cannot discuss the subject in this channel.
[2:19] * rikkib is a super dooper RPi sys op from down under
[2:20] <_yac_> that kinda cam, huh ;)
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[2:22] <rikkib> Two cams on the net. One in Auckland city The other in small town NZ, Ngatea. http://www.bencom.co.nz/cam/
[2:22] <rikkib> The one at home here has filters so it works outside and is pointed at my back garden
[2:23] <LilSnoop4> anyone able to help me out please
[2:23] <rikkib> The other at PC recycle company in the city
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[2:27] <NESIT> this googletalk script is nice
[2:27] <rikkib> LilSnoop4, You gotta tell us how before we can help
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[2:28] <NESIT> http://mitchtech.net/raspberry-pi-google-talk-robot/
[2:30] <LilSnoop4> i installed the xbmc version of rasp
[2:30] <LilSnoop4> and i am trying to add addon's in but not working.
[2:30] <shiftplusone> LilSnoop4, there's not "the xbmc version" of anything.
[2:31] <LilSnoop4> sorry i used the raspmc
[2:31] <shiftplusone> LilSnoop4, check out #raspbmc then
[2:31] <LilSnoop4> ok sorry
[2:32] <shiftplusone> No, here is a perfectly reasonable place to ask as well, I just don't think that anyone who's able to help you is on here righ tnow.
[2:32] <LilSnoop4> im not sure if i am missing something or what
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[2:33] <LilSnoop4> is it normal for CPU Usage to be at 92% idling
[2:34] <shiftplusone> for raspbmc, maybe
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[2:35] <scummos> rikkib: sorry, it's me again ;) I just had another look at that UART stuff -- the Pi *does* have an UART output on its GPIO pins, doesn't it? so I could just use those for programming the uC, couldn't I?
[2:36] <scummos> then I don't need neither an USB -> RS232 adaptor nor a level converter
[2:36] <scummos> of course this will only work for microcontrollers which work with 3.3V but this one does
[2:36] <shiftplusone> pi has uart, yes. voltage levels may be an issue and the specific micro might have its own quirks. It's best to learn exactly how the micro is programmed first.
[2:37] <scummos> okay
[2:37] <scummos> what should I watch out for except voltage levels?
[2:38] <shiftplusone> If it even supports plain serial and whether whatever software you're using to flash the binary supports the device and method in question.
[2:38] <herdingcat> hi I have cloned git://github.com/raspberrypi/linux.git how to I checkout rpi-3.6.y branch?
[2:40] <scummos> shiftplusone: what else except plain serial is there? also, isn't the device exactly the same to a linux userspace application like a real RS232 port?
[2:40] <scummos> i.e. it should be just a character device, no?
[2:40] <Triffid_Hunter> scummos: yeah, /dev/ttyAMA0
[2:41] <shiftplusone> What's the micro in question?
[2:41] <scummos> LPC1110
[2:41] <scummos> Triffid_Hunter: yeah, fine
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[2:43] <scummos> herdingcat: type git branch to see all branches
[2:43] <scummos> or type git branch -a to see remote branches too
[2:43] <scummos> then git checkout <branchname>
[2:43] <scummos> (git branch will likely just give you master since you didn't fetch the other ones)
[2:45] <herdingcat> scummos, I have cloned the repo so I think I have rpi-3.6.y branch
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[2:46] <herdingcat> scummos, I see this branch: remotes/origin/rpi-3.6.y how do I check out this branch and play around?
[2:46] <scummos> git checkout remotes/origin/rpi-3.6.y
[2:46] <Viper-7> scummos: typically programmers use more than just tx/rx, they typically use the hardware flow control pins to reset the target chip and put it into programming mode
[2:46] <Viper-7> those pins a) might not be exposed on the gpio header, and b) might not be available for userspace control
[2:47] <scummos> Viper-7: yeah I know, but I could imagine doing that with a jumper
[2:47] <scummos> they will be since I do the board layout myself ;)
[2:47] <Viper-7> heh
[2:47] <scummos> I just want something to work... and if it does I might still spend money on a proper programmer
[2:47] <scummos> or build one
[2:47] <scummos> but I don't want to do that before I have a hello world application ;)
[2:47] <Viper-7> programming what target?
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[2:47] <herdingcat> scummos, but when I type git branch I got:
[2:48] <scummos> Viper-7: an LPC1110 arm
[2:48] <herdingcat> * (no branch)
[2:48] <herdingcat> master
[2:48] <herdingcat> scummos, ^^^
[2:48] <axion> that means you are in the working tree branch
[2:48] <scummos> herdingcat: do you want to have that branch locally, then do git checkout -b rpi-3.6.y remotes/origin/rpi-3.6.y
[2:48] <scummos> or replace what is behind the -b by any branch name you want for that branch locally
[2:48] <scummos> axion: no, it means you're on a detached head
[2:49] <scummos> which is ok for just looking around, but not for doing changes
[2:49] <axion> yes, sorry
[2:50] <axion> you dont want to edit it
[2:50] <axion> right
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[2:50] <scummos> ;)
[2:50] <scummos> git is more difficult than some programming langues you track code of with *g
[2:51] <scummos> *with it
[2:51] <herdingcat> scummos, I have done this and seems I'm in rpi-3.6.y local branch but seems the codes are the same w/ master...
[2:51] <herdingcat> scummos, I checked git log
[2:51] <herdingcat> scummos, the last date is Date: Mon Oct 22 15:52:44 2012 -0700
[2:52] <scummos> do git describe in both master and that branch
[2:52] <axion> hehe, been using git for about 4 years. i know how to use it, just confused with all the terminology at times
[2:52] <scummos> compare the output
[2:52] <axion> that said from a lisp programmer
[2:52] <scummos> axion: haha
[2:52] <scummos> yeah it's a very good system, it's just... as you say, it's a lot of terminology
[2:52] <scummos> especially reading the manpages can be tough at times
[2:52] <scummos> they're a bit like mathematics ;)
[2:53] <scummos> lots of well-defined, but difficult-to-understand words
[2:53] <axion> hehe
[2:53] <herdingcat> scummos, fatal: No names found, cannot describe anything.
[2:53] <pronto> http://tasty.bagels.xxx/browsers.txt browswers that have touch my raspberry pi webserver :D
[2:53] <scummos> grr why is there people not using tags
[2:54] <scummos> herdingcat: ok, you can also do something like git diff rpi-3.6.y master
[2:54] <scummos> herdingcat: also do git branch and verify you're actually not on master
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[2:54] <shiftplusone> scummos, what software do you intend to use to flash the binary?
[2:55] <scummos> shiftplusone: I found a program named lpc21isp in my system's repository, it seems to be written for that purpose
[2:55] <herdingcat> scummos, mate, the problem is after I checkout the rpi-3.6.y I'm still using master old codes.
[2:55] <shiftplusone> scummos, ah, excellent, then you should be able to figure out what pins you need. It looks like the standard uart pins on the pi and 2 others. (nRESET and nISP)
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[2:56] <shiftplusone> Which might mean modifying the program's source
[2:56] <scummos> shiftplusone: yeah, that won't be impossible probably since it seems to be quite small.
[2:56] <shiftplusone> but I haven't looked too much into it so... I am probably wrong
[2:57] <scummos> it might not work out of the box but it's quite likely that one can make it work that way somehow ;)
[2:57] <scummos> herdingcat: ok. well, are you actually sure the two branches are different?
[2:57] <scummos> i mean, are supposed to be different
[2:58] <herdingcat> scummos, I can see they are different, but git log told be seems rpi-3.6.y is quite old..
[2:58] <shiftplusone> scummos, yes, it looks possible. This looks usable, for example http://projects.qi-hardware.com/index.php/p/ben-blinkenlights/source/tree/master/lpc111x-isp/lpc111x.c and it does look like it's just sending basic commands over uart.
[2:58] <scummos> shiftplusone: reset and ISP sounds like I could set them with a jumper...
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[2:58] <scummos> alright
[2:59] <scummos> herdingcat: quite old? well, that's okay for a stable branch, isn't it....
[2:59] * scummos is confused
[2:59] <herdingcat> scummos, no, rpi-3.6.y should be the latest branch w/ kernel codes
[2:59] <herdingcat> scummos, that's why I'm confused that after checkout rpi-3.6.y still got old codes...
[2:59] <scummos> you can do git pull on the branch to make sure its up to date but
[3:00] <axion> what are these codes, and what commit did they appear in?
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[3:00] <scummos> in every sane world the master branch is the very latest one
[3:00] <scummos> and something with a version number is always older than master
[3:00] <scummos> not newer
[3:00] <scummos> there might be feature branches which are in some sense newer than master but those don't have version numbers usually
[3:01] <scummos> I mean this isn't a law or something, but I guess 99% of people do it like this
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[3:01] <axion> isnt that what tags are for?
[3:01] <shiftplusone> scummos, in the datasheet, section 26.3 seems to have all the magic you need.
[3:02] <scummos> axion: no, usually it's like this: you have an "3.5" branch, which has a "3.5.0" tag, and then some fixes happen, and then there's a "3.5.1" tag etc.
[3:02] <scummos> you can also do it differently of course but I personally would create a branch for a stable release
[3:02] <scummos> *and* a tag in that branch
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[3:02] <axion> yes, but the tag has numbers, not the branch, correct?
[3:03] <axion> in a sane world
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[3:04] <scummos> axion: for the software I know both have numbers but the tag numbers are smaller
[3:04] <scummos> i mean, there's "more numbers"
[3:04] <scummos> i.e. there's a branch for feature-frozen version of the features but bugfixes still go into those branches
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[3:04] <scummos> and then there's tags for completely frozen versions
[3:04] <scummos> at least that's how it works in KDE
[3:04] <scummos> shiftplusone: yep! that looks good...
[3:05] <scummos> shiftplusone: actually looking at all that stuff it looks like one could just write it by himself in case of dire need...
[3:05] <scummos> in a day or two
[3:05] <axion> right. so branches should not be "versions". they are ever-changing. i usually name them based n sub-features i'm experimenting with. and freeze them with tags
[3:05] <shiftplusone> yup, it's doable.
[3:06] <scummos> axion: yeah, branches should not be completely frozen versions. that's what tags are for. but I think it makes sense to use branches for something like "version 1.4"... and then having tags named "1.4.1", "1.4.2" etc. at different points on that branch for the bugfix releases
[3:06] <Triffid_Hunter> scummos: using master for development is a terrible idea.. master should be latest stable release so folk who don't want to develop can checkout and go
[3:07] <scummos> Triffid_Hunter: why is using master for development a terrible idea
[3:07] <axion> first thing i do is create a second dev branch for a new project
[3:07] <axion> named exactly "dev"
[3:07] <scummos> Triffid_Hunter: the terrible idea is pushing broken code to master
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[3:07] <scummos> which is what you shouldn't do
[3:07] <Triffid_Hunter> scummos: because then people who don't want to develop grab the repository and end up with something half-finished or buggy or just plain broken
[3:07] <Triffid_Hunter> scummos: see the 'git flow' workflow pattern for something that works really well
[3:07] <scummos> Triffid_Hunter: yeah of course you don't push half-finished or obviously broken things to master
[3:08] <Triffid_Hunter> scummos: but they have to go /somewhere/ so your co-developers can have a look, hence there'll almost always be stuff pushed that's more recent than master
[3:08] <scummos> if you write a feature which requires multiple commits and requires to be shared with others you can create a dedicated branch for it, no?
[3:08] <Triffid_Hunter> scummos: it's called a 'feature' branch in git flow
[3:08] <scummos> ok... in this case we tend to create a seperate branch
[3:08] <scummos> yeah, a feature branch ;)
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[3:09] <scummos> but much of the regular development still happens in master, since in our case, many features are implemented in just one or two commits
[3:10] <NESIT> http://i.imgur.com/yUXMwcN.png yay googletalk commands working
[3:10] <shiftplusone> now try Shell sudo rm -rf /
[3:11] <scummos> lol
[3:11] <axion> that wont work
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[3:11] <shiftplusone> I probably don't need to say this, but for linux noobs, don't run that.
[3:11] <axion> as of a couple years ago
[3:11] <axion> its blocked from newbies
[3:11] <scummos> yeah
[3:11] <shiftplusone> really?
[3:11] <scummos> yes
[3:11] <scummos> "try it" :D
[3:11] <Viper-7> :P
[3:11] <shiftplusone> lol
[3:11] <scummos> (I tried it, it really doesn't work)
[3:11] <axion> yes you need --no-preserve-root in addition
[3:11] <axion> or something
[3:11] <scummos> yeah
[3:11] <shiftplusone> hm
[3:12] <shiftplusone> would /* work?
[3:12] <axion> prob can do /* though, dunno
[3:12] <axion> lol
[3:12] <shiftplusone> heh
[3:12] <scummos> Triffid_Hunter: I think it probably depends on the kind of software you develop, and on in what state it is. if it is somewhat finished and you just add small features I think you can have most development in master... if it's just being written from scratch, then you will have plenty of feature branches
[3:12] <scummos> yeah I think /* works
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[3:12] <axion> gives an error saying -r cannot operate recursively on "/"
[3:12] <axion> so i assume it does work
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[3:13] <scummos> good night, and thanks for your help!
[3:13] * pronto shakes scummos
[3:13] <pronto> WAKE UP
[3:13] <axion> night
[3:13] <scummos> it's 3:15 am
[3:13] <pronto> :(
[3:13] <scummos> ;p
[3:13] <pronto> change your time zone
[3:13] <scummos> bye
[3:13] <pronto> 9pm here
[3:13] <scummos> .D
[3:14] <pronto> also its *:13 not *:15
[3:14] <PhotoJim> :14 :)
[3:14] <PhotoJim> :44 in Newfoundland
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[3:14] <shiftplusone> I am not sure if this actually happened, but back when I was just learning about linux I rm -rf'ed something and it contained symlinks going outside of what I wanted to delete and it ended up messing up everything. Is it possible that at some stage rm followed symlinks like that?
[3:14] <TAFB> 9:13pm here in Toronto, Canada, 10:13am in China where my camera supplier is and I might have to call them on the phone :(
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[3:15] <SpeedEvil> what form of can?
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[3:16] <axion> shiftplusone: if you do rm -rf /path/to/dir/with/symlinks/ (with the trailing slash, it will i think
[3:16] <axion> as with tab-completion
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[3:18] <shiftplusone> Hm
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[3:19] <shiftplusone> That sounds like a silly/dangerous feature if that's the case. A lot to gample on an innocent looking slash
[3:19] <shiftplusone> ...gample? *gamble
[3:20] <axion> shiftplusone: http://superuser.com/questions/382314/does-rm-f-follow-symbolic-links
[3:20] <axion> check out answer #2
[3:20] <axion> it shows every scenario in example
[3:21] <shiftplusone> thanks
[3:21] <shiftplusone> who needs google if you have axion
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[3:23] <Triffid_Hunter> shiftplusone: fwiw rm just passes the string to the kernel's filesystem layer. it's the kernel itself that interprets /path/to/symlink and /path/to/symlink/ differently
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[3:24] <shiftplusone> good point, yeah.
[3:24] <Entroacceptor> I don't get the "too many levels of sylimks" message
[3:25] <Entroacceptor> and rm -r bar/ removes everything from foo, but not the symlink bar
[3:25] <Entroacceptor> erm, s/bar/baz/ and foo/bar
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[3:27] <Entroacceptor> fun fact: rsync behaves differently depening on the slash, too
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[3:36] <alcaprawn> Can you use Ics internet sharing?
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[3:36] <alcaprawn> my fedoraremix isnt picking the ip up
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[3:40] <shiftplusone> Yeah, the rsync thing threw me off when I first noticed it... I don't like it.
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[3:53] <rikkib> Ahhh my PIR sensor arrived http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=552655418
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[3:57] <TAFB> ohhh nice, what you usin it for?
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[4:03] <NESIT> nice i was just looking into buying one
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[4:06] <NESIT> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adjust-IR-Pyroelectric-Infrared-PIR-Motion-Human-Sensor-Detector-Module-New-/300848720899?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item460bfb2c03
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[4:09] <mark_vh> finally moved to running from usb-stick instead of sd card
[4:09] <mark_vh> so much faster in my case!
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[4:19] <Zarek_> I've got a Pi and no idea what to do with it, yay. :p
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[4:31] <NESIT> eat it
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[4:32] <petersaints> Zarek_: buy a few more and make a super computer: http://www.southampton.ac.uk/~sjc/raspberrypi/pi_supercomputer_southampton_web.pdf
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[4:36] <NESIT> that pi cray
[4:36] <bsdfox_> is there somewhere you can actually buy them yet?
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[4:36] <bsdfox_> I remember getting on the wait list back in july
[4:42] <Triffid_Hunter> bsdfox_: yeah lots of places have them in stock, adafruit had some last time I checked
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[5:21] <LilSnoop4> ahi, anyone around to help with a wifi dongle install?
[5:22] <merkin1> hi channel. Does the RPi's GPU/CPU support video with 4:2:2 chroma subsampling?
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[5:31] <mark_vh_> fg
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[6:23] <NullMoogleCable> I got my 3rd Pi today :)
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[7:39] <Viper-7> heh
[7:40] <Viper-7> why nobody has stock of pis: http://www.southampton.ac.uk/~sjc/raspberrypi/pi_supercomputer_southampton_files/image004.jpg
[7:40] <Viper-7> why that professor is a noob: http://www.southampton.ac.uk/~sjc/raspberrypi/pi_supercomputer_southampton_files/image016.jpg
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[7:48] <Eartaker> lol
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[8:58] <herdingcat> hi, any crosstool-ng config file for raspberry pi ?
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[9:18] <earl2> hi... does anyone have the commandline for starting 2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian.img in qemu on windows?
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[9:23] <Zarek_> is there a pre-built omxplayer package for Arch? don't particularly want to set up a cross-compile environment
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[9:44] <axion> no
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[10:07] <DrPiD> Well.. That's a lot of folk :D Good morning
[10:08] <john_f> Zarek_: doesn't take long to build
[10:08] <john_f> on the pi
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[10:10] <Zarek_> /opt/vc/include/interface/vmcs_host/vcgencmd.h:33:27: fatal error: vchost_config.h: No such file or directory
[10:10] <Zarek_> hmmmmmm
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[10:20] <martk100> I want to install Enlightenment desktop on archlinux. Which packages must I install prior to Enlightenment. Such as xorg SLiM etc?
[10:20] <martk100> Also do I need to install a graphics driver?
[10:21] <yaayaa> you should just follow the wiki, to be sure not to miss any step
[10:21] <martk100> yaayaa: Where is the wiki?
[10:21] <yaayaa> but yes, xorg, slim and the video driver are amongst required steps
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[10:23] <yaayaa> starting here https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide/Extra
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[10:24] <martk100> yaayaa: Thanks very much.
[10:24] <yaayaa> you're welcome
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[11:05] <FR^2> hiho.
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[11:21] <john_f> Zarek_: oh besides the glibc bug
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[11:23] <john_f> Zarek_: need to export the ld path since /etc/ld.so.conf is broken
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[11:26] <john_f> Zarek_: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/vc/lib in your bashrc, or the pkgbuild
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[12:01] <factor> soldering together a cable for my pi.
[12:02] <factor> bcm lib seems to have compiled. ,wont gt to test it until I get the cable made.
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[12:26] <double-you> I'm planning to buy tp-link tl-wn821n (atheros) wifi stick for my r-pi, any doubts?
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[12:27] <mueslee> hi
[12:28] <mueslee> i run raspbmc with mpd installed accessing the rpi via wireless stick... usually after 2-3 days the rpi cannot be ping'ed any more
[12:28] <mueslee> does anybody have a clue how i could approach the issue?
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[12:38] <linuxstb> mueslee: Is the Pi still alive? I'm guessing you're running it headless?
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[12:45] <dape8708> double-you, its ok, worked great for me until it stopped working as in being detected, i think i broke it moving between 3 computers and testing it hard
[12:45] <dape8708> double-you, i had like 225 Mbit/sec with a tp-link wr1043nd router
[12:46] <double-you> dape8708: thanks, which version of the stick was it? v1,2,3,4?
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[12:46] <dape8708> its at home, can't tell now, actually its the wn821nc with usb and cradle version
[12:47] <double-you> atheros or realtek?
[12:47] <dape8708> atheros!
[12:47] <double-you> fine :-)
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[12:47] <dape8708> lol, i wrote about it - http://www.ip6.ro/prezentari/tl-wn821nc/
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[12:47] <double-you> the new wn821nv4 is rtl8292cu
[12:47] <dape8708> sucks.
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[12:49] <double-you> trying to get an atheros wn821n ;)
[12:52] <dape8708> worked great man, i am not really sure what did i do to break it, maybe the pins, maybe the chip got burnt..
[12:53] <dape8708> lol, i should hurry up and set it to rma , maybe they'll send back one of those v4 with realtek :))
[12:55] <double-you> not sure if there are also several version of wn821NC
[13:02] <jelly1> hmm
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[13:11] <VetteWork> raspberry jelly filled donut, good way to start a morning of watching videos and reading forums about automation on the Pi :)
[13:11] <jelly1> :o
[13:11] <VetteWork> lukcily not jelly1 filled
[13:12] <Mortvert> at least you don't have to wait for your pi to get dispatched (or deliviered, i hear RS has problems sending their dispatch mails.)
[13:12] <VetteWork> mort, i waited a long time for this one, have 2 more on order, supposed to be here today
[13:12] <Mortvert> VetteWork - i ordered like 9 days ago. I hope it'll be here next week
[13:12] <VetteWork> heh
[13:13] <VetteWork> I think mine was about 4 months?
[13:13] <Mortvert> I want a rpi so badly yet i didn't read the forums about RS
[13:13] <Mortvert> But then, every single retailer charges +$10
[13:14] <Mortvert> no matter where, be it local or foreign retailer
[13:14] <brady2600> rs?
[13:14] <VetteWork> that was after signing up to be allowed to order one a few months prior
[13:14] <Mortvert> VetteWork - shouldn't they have their backlog cleared by now?
[13:15] <VetteWork> mort, they do now. i;ve had mine for a few months :)
[13:15] <Mortvert> D:
[13:15] <VetteWork> brady, original distributor
[13:15] <Mortvert> I really hope that mine ships today/next week
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[13:15] <Mortvert> If not, i'll spam their goddamn mail
[13:16] <VetteWork> adafruit is fast
[13:16] <VetteWork> ordered saturday should be here today
[13:16] <Mortvert> adafruit?
[13:16] <VetteWork> US retailer
[13:16] <VetteWork> http://www.adafruit.com/
[13:16] <Triffid_Hunter> heh I got one from adafruit, came in an element14-branded box
[13:17] <Mortvert> I ordered directly from RS
[13:17] <VetteWork> i dont know if i will see it or not, out at noon, so might miss it..
[13:17] <Mortvert> And i'm terrified at what people write about RS ;_;
[13:17] <Mortvert> I really hope that i will see the thing this month
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[13:19] <VetteWork> anyone done automation stuff?
[13:19] <VetteWork> first step is i want to replace sprinkler controller
[13:19] <brady2600> im working on a hydroponics automation application
[13:19] <brady2600> using the pi as a web server
[13:20] <VetteWork> you doing all the work? or using someone elses footwork?
[13:21] <brady2600> ive looked at many other similar proojects, but anything that goes in is rebuilt
[13:21] <brady2600> ive not found anything approaching what i ultimately want
[13:22] <brady2600> ive been trying to get my get request on tonight. lol.
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[13:22] <VetteWork> what are you using for relays?
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[13:23] <brady2600> ive got two sixteen rely 5v opticall relay boards, and then i have others for larger lights
[13:24] <brady2600> the main lights have their own relays. the relay boards are for smaller ac / dc devises
[13:24] <VetteWork> http://www.amazon.com/SainSmart-8-Channel-Relay-Module-Arduino/dp/B0057OC5WK/ref=sr_1_1?s=toys-and-games&ie=UTF8&qid=1359116572&sr=1-1&keywords=sainsmart
[13:24] <VetteWork> like htat?
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[13:25] <brady2600> yes just like that
[13:25] <brady2600> except, more channels
[13:26] <VetteWork> That does output only right? what about input to the pi?
[13:26] <brady2600> i use an arduino mega hooked to the raspberry pi via usb
[13:26] <brady2600> i have the mega handle inputs
[13:26] <VetteWork> its doable on the pi tho right?
[13:27] <VetteWork> basic contact closures, not looking for voltage monitoring or anything right now
[13:27] <brady2600> the pi has gpio yes, but i dont believe it has analog inputs, not sure..
[13:28] <VetteWork> So your using the arduino as the smarts, and the pi as web interface?
[13:28] <brady2600> the way i look at it is that the arduino has more of simplistic dedicated task of handling the inputs/outputs
[13:28] <brady2600> if the raspberry pi was to crash for some reason
[13:28] <brady2600> they arduino would carry on executing the firmware code
[13:29] <VetteWork> im just scared of programming an arduino
[13:29] <mjr> brady2600, yes, probably wise
[13:29] <brady2600> using the pi has the advantage of running a web server, uploading new code to the arduino
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[13:29] <brady2600> if there is anything too ram intensive for the arduino, i could do it with the raspberry pi
[13:30] <VetteWork> is the arduino stuff easy to program?
[13:30] <brady2600> its c++
[13:30] <mjr> have the arduino ping the pi on occasion and cycle power to it if it doesn't respond ;P
[13:30] <VetteWork> im not a programmer, so most of it is foreign to me
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[13:31] <VetteWork> if I get the pi doing what I want, can i later port that over to arduino?
[13:31] <RaTTuS|BIG> ^ use one that is on the gerboard to make sure the RPi is u p ....
[13:31] <brady2600> i believe the gpio library i know of is in python
[13:32] <mjr> VetteWork, depends if the arduino has enough resources for it. Might require porting effort due to different program environments
[13:32] <brady2600> thats another reason why ive not used the pi gpio yet... rusty python
[13:32] <VetteWork> mjr, I just want to do a basic sprinkler system
[13:33] <VetteWork> well, thats one project, another is monitoring power. need GPI's to trigger SNMP commands back to a trap server
[13:34] <brady2600> yeah.. i would say if the exact timing of the sprinklers is not mission critical , just use the gpio libraries in python and write a python program that triggers your relays, although i should point out that the gpio voltage is diffrent for pi than for arduino, so that 5 v relay board might not be the right voltage
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[13:34] <brady2600> anyone know what the voltage on the digital pins for the gpio on pi is?
[13:34] <VetteWork> 3.3V and 5V on the pi i think
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[13:35] <Triffid_Hunter> brady2600: the pi
[13:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> gpio on RPI is 3.3V
[13:35] <Triffid_Hunter> brady2600: the pi's gpio is 3.3v only. they are NOT 5v tolerant unfortunately
[13:36] <brady2600> wonder if the relay boards are available in 3.3 v
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[13:36] <mjr> yeah; the only thing 5V on the gpio header is a hookup to the 5V rail, this confuses some people to think the GPIO itself could take that as well, but it can't
[13:37] <VetteWork> I C
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[13:37] <VetteWork> I've saw that relay kit used on a pi, wonder if it was 3.3V
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[13:39] <brady2600> i should try with one of my relay boards, see if 3.3 triggers the 5v
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[13:41] <VetteWork> thats so cool.. just ssh'd into the pi from a virtual ubuntu on my XP machine :P
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[13:46] <Zelest> someone, fix BMWerlins SendQ.
[13:46] <Armand> Correction, someone *ban BWMerlin..
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[13:47] <wsmsg> does fail2ban work from the repo @ raspbian
[13:47] <Zelest> or that. :-)
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[13:47] <Armand> Zelest, it's not for the Ops to fix some idiot's (unrelated) software issue.
[13:48] <Armand> Besides the fact that is ALL I ever see him do. ?_?
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[13:49] <Zelest> Agreed.
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> What ho!
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> And a Hmph. My wokrshop next weekend has been cancelled due to lack of numbers )-:
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> Ho hum.
[13:50] <Armand> O_o
[13:50] <Zelest> rpi workshop?
[13:50] <Armand> Sucks, dude. :(
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[13:52] <VetteWork> i cant wait till computers get insync with our minds and alt+tab goes to the window i ACTUALLY want
[13:53] <Zelest> lol
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[13:55] <VetteWork> the interwebs seem to indicate that the 5V relay units will work with 3.3 of the pi
[13:55] <coin3d> hi there - have you ever experienced overheating with the raspberry pi? i overclocked mine to 800 mhz and compiled something, when it suddenly crashed
[13:55] <brady2600> that wet wire upgrade won't seem so great when they start advertising pepsi directly to your cortex while you sleep.
[13:55] <nid0> its more likely not good enough power than overheating
[13:55] <BCMM> coin3d: you don't need overheating to crash
[13:56] <Zelest> alt+tab should be like "okey, switch window to whatever he looks at next"
[13:56] <coin3d> BCMM: what else?
[13:56] <VetteWork> coin, I left mine on desk under a bunch of papers and hardware for about 2 months, its been fine
[13:56] <BCMM> coin3d: in fact i think it automatically scales back the frequency if it heats up, at least if you overclocked in the normal way
[13:56] <brady2600> its my understanding that iris tracking mouses already exist
[13:56] <VetteWork> Zelest, that would be reasonable
[13:56] <BCMM> coin3d: as nid0 says, bad power
[13:56] * Zelest uses a Mac where he slides up with 3 fingers and have a lovely overview. :P
[13:56] <coin3d> hmm???i'm running my pi with an external power supply...strange
[13:57] <Zelest> alt+tab is b0rked in OS X Anyways
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[13:57] <Zelest> anyways*
[13:57] <coin3d> i guess it gives 800 mA
[13:57] <BCMM> coin3d: uh, that's the only way to run it...
[13:57] <BCMM> coin3d: what sort of power supply?
[13:58] <coin3d> BCMM: it's from hama
[13:58] <coin3d> 1-port usb
[13:58] <BCMM> coin3d: your power supply is rated for 800mA? that might be pushing it a bit i guess, any USb peripherals on the pi?
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[13:59] <coin3d> BCMM: the pi is connected to an usb hub, which has keyboard and a wifi stick connected to it. however, the usb hub is powered by a separate power supply
[14:00] <BCMM> coin3d: you have a powered hub AND a power supply? hub not rated high enough to power the pi too?
[14:00] <BCMM> what USB hub? might it be back-powering teh pi?
[14:00] <BCMM> (anybody know what happens if you power the pi from "both ends"?)
[14:00] <coin3d> BCMM: yup, it can. but i experienced the same issue
[14:00] <coin3d> its a dlink 4 port usb hub, with a 2A power supply
[14:01] <BCMM> coin3d: huh, sounds like the whole thing could probably run off the dlink hub without using the other supply
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[14:01] <BCMM> unless it's limited in the power it will provide from a single port
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[14:02] <dape8708> BCMM, i think i read somewhere on the interwebs these nights that someone powered his pi via the usb ports
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[14:02] <coin3d> BCMM: do you think that my problem could be related to my sd card?
[14:02] <BCMM> dape8708: which USB ports?
[14:02] <BCMM> coin3d: it could also be your SD card yeah
[14:02] <dape8708> i wish i could remember the site, was a blog
[14:02] <BCMM> doesn't the SD card's bus frequency scale with the CPU? or am i making that up?
[14:02] <gordonDrogon> Zelest, yes - it was sort of aimed at artist types though - people who want to do big projects with graphics, movements and so-on.
[14:02] <BCMM> dape8708: oh, you mean through the Pi's USB ports
[14:03] <dape8708> BCMM, yes
[14:03] <Zelest> gordonDrogon, aah
[14:03] <BCMM> dape8708: yeah, that's what back-powering is
[14:03] <BCMM> dape8708: on early model B's you can get issues with hubs that accidentally back-power
[14:03] <BCMM> dape8708: there is a polyfuse that trips out
[14:04] <dape8708> i see, well i got my rev. Bs these days so..
[14:04] <BCMM> and some hubs which have the option of bus power or PSU power just have all the ports, including the host-side port, on a simple 5V bus
[14:05] <BCMM> works fine in bus-powered operation, but with the PSU connected it feeds power back to the Pi and causes problems
[14:05] <wsmsg> hmf.. even iptables says DROP all -- anywhere... yet i can ssh just fine :[ ip_tables is also loaded
[14:06] <BCMM> dape8708: i've got an early model B and i've snipped the +5V line on my hub's host cable to avoid this issue
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[14:08] <BCMM> coin3d: come to think of it, that might be your problem - polyfuse tripping due to back-powering, but only when there is sufficient current due to overclocking + load... does your pi have mounting holes?
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[14:08] <coin3d> BCMM: nope, its the old 256 mb model
[14:09] <BCMM> coin3d: well, the rev1 does NOT like back powering that much
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[14:10] <BCMM> it is probably fairly easy to mod your hub to make it stop
[14:10] <BCMM> you can also mod the polyfuse on the pi, but that takes a soldering iron and a steady hand as oppose to a screwdriver and scissors
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[14:11] <coin3d> hmm
[14:11] <BCMM> coin3d: do you know the exact model of your hub? is it on the elinux list of hubs?
[14:12] <BCMM> a 2 amp hub should easily power the pi, keyboard and wifi without needing the other power supply unless it doesn't like giving over 500mA from one port
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[14:12] <BCMM> (using a standard usb A to microUSB cable
[14:12] <BCMM> )
[14:13] <coin3d> yup, it is listed
[14:13] <coin3d> DUB-4 High Speed USB 2.0 4-Port Hub
[14:14] <coin3d> as already said, i had the same problem with the hub - so i tried out the seperate usb power supply instead
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[14:17] <BCMM> coin3d: oh, you meant you had teh back-power problem? or a problem with drawing excessive power from a single port?
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[14:19] <LilSnoop4> since there is no power on/off for the raspberry pi. is it best to just let it run 24/7 or unplug when not using?
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[14:20] <coin3d> BCMM: i just mean that i experienced the same problem (crash while compiling) with the hub as well
[14:20] <BCMM> oh, i see...
[14:21] <BCMM> coin3d: how easy is it to reproduce the problem? will it go fairly fast when you start the compiler?
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[14:22] <mueslee> linuxstb: i'm running it completely remotely
[14:23] <xzr> LilSnoop4: I guess 99% of people just choose to let it run all the time
[14:23] <mueslee> so i have no idea if it's still alive
[14:23] <xzr> nothing's stopping you from powering it down when you don't use it though
[14:23] <coin3d> BCMM: hm???not that easy???it didnt crash immediately
[14:23] <coin3d> but let me try...
[14:24] <BCMM> coin3d: well i was asking because it might be an idea to test it without the hub attached
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[14:25] <coin3d> ok, ill try it out. thanks so far
[14:25] <BCMM> i was wondering if once the supply is under a fair bit of load and its voltage drops slightly, the pi starts sourcing enough back-power from the hub to trip the polyfuse
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[14:27] <linuxstb> mueslee:I think it will be hard to debug if you don't have local access...
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[14:33] <gordonDrogon> I have a hub feeding a pi via both the up-link and a separate usb -> microUSB lead...
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[14:34] <pronto> lol http://vps3.pronto185.com/cam/test.jpeg webcam is not centered on the pi :(
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[15:02] <Aartsie> hi all !
[15:03] <DeliriumTremens> bok choy
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[15:03] <Aartsie> When i overclock the rpi to 1000mhz this don't break the CPU ?
[15:04] <mjr> Shouldn't, if you use the official turbo mode. It can be unstable though.
[15:04] <BCMM> Aartsie: are you using raspi-config to overclock? it doesn't let you do anything seriously dangerous
[15:05] <Aartsie> BCMM: Yes i do
[15:06] <BCMM> well, heed the warning about SoC lifespan, and go ahead
[15:06] <Mortvert> SoC?
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[15:06] <BCMM> Mortvert: system-on-chip
[15:06] <BCMM> Mortvert: there's more than just a CPU on the chip that contains teh CPU
[15:09] <nimmis|work> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2008 says "means there will be no measurable reduction in the lifetime of your Raspberry Pi"
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[15:10] <BCMM> nimmis|work: huh, they should take that warning out of raspi-config...
[15:11] <BCMM> Aartsie: have a look at nimmis|work's link; won't damage the Pi but it might not run stable
[15:11] <BCMM> so test it in turbo mode and reduce speed if it doesn't behave
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[15:12] <nimmis|work> think the problem comes if you have to slow SDHC cards, but i've used class 4 with 1Ghz w/o problems
[15:13] <Aartsie> oke great :)
[15:14] <dape8708> Aartsie, i'm running it with 900mhz since few days without problems, nothing in usb ports but a 1,2a charger
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[15:14] <Jupp3> Using EGL without X (as done with some examples), but I'd definitely need some event handling, timer etc.
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[15:17] <Jupp3> Also trying to figure out the cleanest way to build a few files of a project with different cflags as the rest :)
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[15:18] <Macer> i am on my pi heh
[15:18] <Macer> running raspbian
[15:18] <Macer> ncie
[15:18] <Macer> it's actually not bad at all :)
[15:19] <Macer> how much does a typical PC usb port put out for power?
[15:19] <Macer> i wanted to power my pi off my synology
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[15:20] <Jupp3> Haven't tried, but probably couldn't run it off PowerBook :)
[15:20] <BCMM> Macer: usb 2? 500mA max, per the spec
[15:20] <Macer> hm
[15:20] <Macer> wonder if that's enough to run the pi without anything else on it
[15:20] <BCMM> some laptops have a "charging port" which can do better than that
[15:20] <Mortvert> BCMM - noone follows these iirc
[15:20] <Macer> it's not a laptop it's a synology ;)
[15:20] <mjr> it's relatively common for a port to supply a bit more, but not to be relied on
[15:21] <nimmis|work> you can check the current chip temperature with the command cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp , the temperature is in milli-Celsius
[15:21] <Macer> hm
[15:23] <Macer> i'm still wondering if the 500mA will still power/run the pi
[15:23] <Macer> i guess there is only one way to find out :)
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[15:23] <Macer> i mean it won't have anything on it.. just the pi itself
[15:23] <steve_rox> i found using a pc usb can lead to strange sound interfearence
[15:23] <Macer> so no usb port draw from the pi itself
[15:23] <Macer> steve_rox: i'm powering it off a synology nas
[15:23] <Macer> so sound isn't an issue
[15:24] <Macer> this pi is going to be strictly a closeted server
[15:24] <steve_rox> so erm whats the problem?
[15:24] <b0ot> It seems like there are lots of different linux distros that deal with firewall/routing and I was looking to get the PI to do some routing/qos/etc. At first I was interested in quagga + gui but i couldn't find a GUI for quagga. Now I'm looking at other distros but I wasn't sure iff the Pi could handle them
[15:24] <b0ot> any suggestions?
[15:24] <Macer> steve_rox: i need to find a usb cable ;)
[15:24] <Macer> i'm going to find one now.. bbl. heh
[15:24] <steve_rox> sounds bad
[15:24] <steve_rox> hah
[15:24] <Entroacceptor> b0ot: just read some howtos and do it by hand
[15:24] <Macer> i was surprised how well raspbian worked
[15:25] <Macer> no offense
[15:25] <Macer> heh
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[15:25] <b0ot> Entroacceptor, I know how to do it by hand, but I want to work with getting a GUI to work
[15:25] <b0ot> for remote access
[15:25] <b0ot> and for more universal access
[15:25] <b0ot> ie peeps that didn't rtfm
[15:26] <BCMM> b0ot: there are images of raspbian available that don't come with X
[15:26] <neilr> b0ot: do you want to use the pi as a router?
[15:26] <BCMM> (or you can just uninstall x)
[15:26] <arcanescu> would there be intrest in RPI, doing broadcasting ? as in stream to a set top box ?
[15:26] <BCMM> for remote access, just SSH in an use iptables
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[15:26] <b0ot> neilr, was going to experiment with it
[15:27] <b0ot> i'm looking at zentyal right now, but I figured it would be lighter if I just used quagga on top of wheezy
[15:27] <BCMM> b0ot: what sort of firewalling/routing do you want?
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[15:27] <b0ot> static routing, rip v1/2, ospf
[15:27] <b0ot> vlans
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[15:28] <neilr> inter-vlan routing on a single physical interface then>
[15:28] <neilr> ?
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[15:28] <b0ot> 802.1q
[15:28] <linuxstb> arcanescu: Streaming what? IMO the RPI is a very capable set-top box itself.
[15:28] <b0ot> trunking
[15:28] <BCMM> b0ot: heh, ok that's over my head now
[15:28] <b0ot> (ability to trunk between vlans)
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[15:29] <arcanescu> linuxstb: well this is what im doing atm and its working : video in - >rpi converts stream to dvbs -> a rf board i have via usb - > and voila u can view the channel on a stb
[15:29] <neilr> OK - I was just going to mention that there's only one physical interface, unless you put a USB wlan dongle in there, which works on the same bus as the physical ethernet
[15:29] <b0ot> as it only has one physical ethernet port, it would most likely be a router on a stick setup
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[15:29] <neilr> in other words, it's sub-optimal as a router in The Real World :)
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[15:30] <b0ot> neilr, I actually do have some wired devices that connect via usb that show up as ethernet devices
[15:30] <arcanescu> linuxstb: so its effectively a broadcasting station.
[15:30] <linuxstb> arcanescu: Nice. So you're using the Pi as a DVB-S modulator?
[15:30] <b0ot> ip over usb would be a big bonus
[15:30] <arcanescu> linuxstb: yes
[15:30] <jnix> to whom it may concern; i love my rpi
[15:31] <neilr> Have you had these wired eithernet to USB devices working on the pi?
[15:31] <arcanescu> linuxstb: i was wondering if people would be intrested in it, im just in a testing phase ill make a video n post soon
[15:31] <linuxstb> arcanescu: What format is your video input? I've been wanting to create my own DVB-T streams for a few years, but have changed my approach to instead just use a Pi to replace my TV's built-in tuner.
[15:31] <BCMM> b0ot: there is an on-board USB hub, to which the USB ports and the ethernet are connected. his point was that any extra ethernet devices you connect will be sharing a single USB's bandwidth with the onboard ethernet
[15:31] <linuxstb> arcanescu: It's definitely interesting, especially if it can be adapted to DVB-T
[15:32] <arcanescu> linuxstb: its mpeg2 video and this is live video , im using a cheap pvr (usb) again to do that
[15:32] <b0ot> ahh
[15:32] <b0ot> Is there any place that shows what OS's will work on rpi?
[15:32] <arcanescu> linuxstb: yes it can adapteed to dvb-t you can use the same blocks as that of dvb-s to extend
[15:32] <neilr> Sorry - I probably didn't make that clear. Thanks BCMM
[15:32] <linuxstb> arcanescu: So are you doing software modulation?
[15:33] <arcanescu> linuxstb: yes
[15:33] <BCMM> b0ot: http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads is a good start
[15:33] <linuxstb> arcanescu: Very nice. How much would a suitable RF board cost?
[15:33] <arcanescu> linuxstb: I have another board which is the RF board connected via ftdi and it just "airs" the channel
[15:34] <BCMM> b0ot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi#Operating_systems lol
[15:34] <arcanescu> this one would cost 20 30 Pounds I think if i make lots of them
[15:34] <BCMM> somebody is porting plan 9 from bell labs
[15:34] <BCMM> that is awesome
[15:34] <arcanescu> linuxstb: the best thing is my dvb-s blocks are modular
[15:34] <arcanescu> they are in gstreamer
[15:35] <b0ot> BCMM, thanks for the link... looks like ubuntu isn't up there which means it wouldn't work with zentyal based of ubuntu server :( guess I shall continue looking
[15:35] <linuxstb> arcanescu: Will you be releasing your code as open source?
[15:35] <BCMM> b0ot: i don't know what zentyal is, but does it not run on Debian?
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[15:36] <arcanescu> linuxstb: i think so at the moment im just testing, what you could do is use those blocks say block1->block2->block3 ->(add dvbt) blocks for dvb-t
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[15:38] <BCMM> ooh i see, zentyal is a massive package taht does everything
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[15:40] <jnix> What's the best method to monitor power usage of the rpi? Is the rpi capable of doing that natively?
[15:41] <linuxstb> arcanescu: What bitrate can you send? Does your RF board limit this, or is it just down to CPU/throughput in the Pi?
[15:41] <arcanescu> linuxstb: its sad that there is no mpeg2 encoding on the board and im tied in with this pvr
[15:41] <arcanescu> linuxstb: 4Mb's 3Mb's 2Mbs and 1Mbs is what ive tried since these translate to 4k symbols 3k 2k and so on
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[15:42] <VetteWork> browsing youtube and the forums for pi automation stuff makes me feel really dumb
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[15:43] <linuxstb> arcanescu: Well, there's h264 encoding onboard, which DVB supports (although not all set-top boxes of course)
[15:43] <pronto> http://vps3.pronto185.com/ :D
[15:43] <b0ot> BCMM, yeah
[15:43] <pronto> (hosted on raspberry pi)
[15:44] <linuxstb> arcanescu: My interest would probably be to take existing DVB-S/T broadcasts, remux them, add my own SI, and then broadcast.
[15:44] <linuxstb> arcanescu: And the Pi can handle MPEG-2 to H264 transcoding, so you could use an MPEG-2 hardware capture card at its highest quality, then transcode.
[15:44] <Matt> is there anything out there that can actually talk to the GPU to encode h264 tho?
[15:44] <linuxstb> Matt: omxtx is a work-in-progress to do that (google finds it)
[15:45] <linuxstb> But no, I don't think there's any end-user friendly code yet.
[15:45] <Matt> that was what I thought
[15:45] <arcanescu> linuxstb: dvb-t does mpeg2 aswell so why transcode?
[15:47] <VetteWork> brady2600: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMAMsvXMjFU thats encouraging for one of my plans
[15:47] <linuxstb> arcanescu: I guess there's no reason in that situation.
[15:48] <linuxstb> arcanescu: So gstreamer has a good transport stream muxer? i.e. it can pad to a fixed bitrate?
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[15:50] <b0ot> BCMM, can rpi run ubuntu?
[15:51] <BCMM> b0ot: http://elinux.org/RPi_Distributions#Ubuntu
[15:51] <b0ot> ah
[15:51] <b0ot> read as you typed
[15:51] <BCMM> it was discussed and initially planned as the default
[15:51] <b0ot> dropped arm support
[15:51] <arcanescu> linuxstb: yes, you can also look at using opencaster
[15:51] <BCMM> but basically ubuntu has higher hardware requirements
[15:52] <arcanescu> opencaster acutally has the ability to -add SI with whatever information you giev it
[15:52] <Jupp3> Phew, now my project Makefile builds a few files without -Werror and -Wall...
[15:52] <arcanescu> i only chose gst since its more modular, and once i release it, ppl would be better able to understand which part does what
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[15:54] <b0ot> I'm reading and it doesn't look like the raspberry pi supports VLC very well. I was hoping to use it to send rtp video streams to record them and have it restream it out to my newtork
[15:54] <b0ot> any other tools besides vlc that could do this that works on rpi
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[15:55] <linuxstb> arcanescu: All sounds good. Do you think you can go higher than 4Mbits/s - e.g. to send multiple services?
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[15:56] <arcanescu> linuxstb: i have not tested that as yet but you definately can. I dont see any reason why not
[15:57] <linuxstb> arcanescu: Well, I'm sure there will be a lot of interest. Although personally I've moved away from wanting to create my own DVB-T signals, and instead am working on turning a Pi into a set-top box - https://github.com/linuxstb/pidvbip
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[15:59] <arcanescu> linuxstb: nice, id be willing to partner on dvb-t creation especially when you can reuse old blocks
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[16:01] <linuxstb> arcanescu: Out of interest, what USB MPEG-2 capture device do you use? I could find a use for one with my Pi...
[16:01] <arcanescu> hauppage pvr
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[16:02] <linuxstb> arcanescu: Do you know the model number?
[16:03] <arcanescu> sec
[16:04] <arcanescu> linuxstb: goo.gl/bqxj9
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[16:05] <linuxstb> arcanescu: Great, thanks.
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[16:14] <x42> how is gentoo on raspberry pi?
[16:15] * x42 just recieved my first raspy :)
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[16:15] <shiftplusone> x42, exactly as you'd expect
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[16:16] <shiftplusone> If you start compiling now, you'll have a nice system set up in time for christmas
[16:16] <pronto> http://vps3.pronto185.com/ < raspberrypi infopage :D
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[16:17] <x42> :D shiftplusone
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[16:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> screen
[16:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> oops
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[16:18] <pronto> use distcc across 64 raspebrry pi's :D
[16:18] <Aartsie> pronto: you do that stats with php ?
[16:18] <pronto> Aartsie: lolyeah
[16:18] <pronto> php to run exec
[16:18] <pronto> i'm a horrible person
[16:19] <Aartsie> what is the command for temp ?
[16:19] <pronto> echo exec('/opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp');
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[16:20] <pronto> http://vps2.pronto185.com/index.txt <
[16:21] <djazz> another command to get temp: cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
[16:21] <Aartsie> lol my pi is 46,5 C
[16:21] <Aartsie> maybe a little hot ?
[16:21] <djazz> 43 C, 1000 MHz
[16:21] <shiftplusone> >=/
[16:21] <djazz> nah
[16:21] <Armand> If you're using the overclock settings... watch "/opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp && cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq"
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[16:21] <Aartsie> yes i run 2 on 1000 mhz in a case
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[16:22] <djazz> heh, i get an error when i tried the vcgencmd command
[16:22] <djazz> libvcos.so: cannot open shared object file
[16:22] <djazz> im running Arch
[16:22] <shiftplusone> Aartsie, 80 is 'too hot' 75 is where you would start worrying. You don't want it going to 85. It's not a problem if it does get to 85, it will just shut down to protect itself.
[16:22] <shiftplusone> (assuming you don't override that setting in config.txt)
[16:22] <djazz> the higher temperature, the slower?
[16:23] <shiftplusone> djazz, which OS?
[16:23] <djazz> Arch Linux ARM
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[16:23] <shiftplusone> Yeah, known problem with ld.so.cache
[16:23] <djazz> same when i run quake3
[16:23] <shiftplusone> you need to add the ld variable... hang on
[16:23] <djazz> i must export smth to enviroment var
[16:23] <Aartsie> CPU freq: 700 000
[16:23] <djazz> every time
[16:24] <djazz> for those using tmux and want to see temperature in taskbar: http://pastebin.com/Tie7whFU
[16:24] <djazz> its easy to change to show cpu speed instead
[16:24] <shiftplusone> djazz, not every time, just add it to .bashrc
[16:25] <djazz> aha
[16:25] <shiftplusone> export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/vc/lib
[16:25] <djazz> name and value?
[16:25] <djazz> k
[16:25] <shiftplusone> http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=15006
[16:26] <djazz> shiftplusone: must i reboot or just re-login?
[16:26] <shiftplusone> re-login
[16:26] <djazz> im connected with ssh
[16:26] <djazz> yay
[16:26] <djazz> it didnt work in tmux though
[16:26] <shiftplusone> works?
[16:26] <djazz> yes works
[16:26] <shiftplusone> you'd need to restart tmux as well, you can't use the same session
[16:27] <djazz> i guess cuz i started tmux before
[16:27] <djazz> yea
[16:27] <shiftplusone> And no, temperature doesn't affect speed, though in theory, it could be faster if hotter
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[16:27] <djazz> aha
[16:27] <djazz> :P
[16:28] <pronto> dafaq, that /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp returns 37932
[16:28] <djazz> pronto: divide by 1000
[16:28] <djazz> with*
[16:28] <pronto> ah
[16:29] <djazz> millicelcius :)
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[16:29] <pronto> TIL: that "millicelcius" is a thing
[16:29] <djazz> or is it millidegrees?
[16:30] <FR^2> millikelvin?
[16:30] <shiftplusone> 37.9
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[16:31] <pronto> xD
[16:31] <pronto> wow there's a lot of people in here
[16:31] <djazz> my rpi everfree-inspired webradio is opensource! :) http://djazz.mine.nu:1337/
[16:31] <shiftplusone> yup... looks like we'll overtake ##c one day
[16:32] <TAFB> djazz: nice page! looks spiffy :)
[16:33] <djazz> TAFB: :D
[16:33] <TAFB> My Pi powered super crazy cam is workin good :) http://tafb02.click2stream.com/
[16:33] <shiftplusone> are the ponies necessary?
[16:33] <djazz> shiftplusone: yes
[16:33] <shiftplusone> ah
[16:33] <TAFB> I like the ponies :)
[16:33] <djazz> shiftplusone: Everfree's Radio: http://everfree.net/channels/everfree-radio/playlist/
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[16:34] <djazz> TAFB: nice framerate and quality
[16:34] <TAFB> thanks! took me forever to find a good camera that could do that :)
[16:34] <pronto> djazz: you from Niue or something?
[16:34] <djazz> pronto: hm? no.. Sweden
[16:35] <pronto> ah
[16:35] <a930913> TAFB: What've you done?
[16:35] <TAFB> it's running CRTMPSERVER on the Pi, to convert camera RTSP stream to flash compatible h264 RTMP :)
[16:35] <djazz> pronto: many sites in sweden uses ".nu" as it means "now" in swedish
[16:35] <TAFB> It's IP camera, $132 :)
[16:35] <pronto> djazz: ah
[16:35] <a930913> TAFB: Sounds expensive.
[16:35] <pronto> frist time i've seen a .nu
[16:35] <djazz> pronto: i just got the *.mine.nu free from dyndns
[16:36] <djazz> subdomain
[16:36] <TAFB> a930913: if you want super wide angle, WDR, 720p, flawless colour, you have to pay the big $$ ;)
[16:36] <djazz> all other free subdomains had "dyndns" in the url
[16:36] <pronto> i thought about adding my bagles.xxx to freedns xD
[16:36] <neilr> I used to have neil.nu - many years ago
[16:36] <pronto> but the was like 'to much effort'
[16:36] <djazz> TAFB: how does the official RPi camera module compete with this?
[16:36] <a930913> TAFB: Ah :) The pi can stream 720p that well?
[16:36] <djazz> you think
[16:37] <TAFB> a930913: because the camera has built in h264 hardware encoder, the Pi isn't doing much work at all. Just putting stream into new container, not re-encoding it :)
[16:37] <TAFB> a930913: I have not figured out how to record it yet, especially to record on motion :)
[16:37] <a930913> Ah, 320x240 via motion takes a chunk out of the CPU.
[16:38] <a930913> (For me.)
[16:38] <a930913> Can yours move?
[16:38] <djazz> motion is choppy, i use mjpg-streamer
[16:38] <TAFB> a930913: I tried motion, used too much CPU and poor image quality :(
[16:38] <TAFB> a930913: I have PTZ camera, but it is not nice quality like this one :(
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[16:39] <pronto> i have a cheap direct-from-china webcam :D
[16:39] <TAFB> pronto: those tend not to have hardware h264 encode ;)
[16:39] <djazz> i have ps2 eye-toy
[16:39] <a930913> I made a mount to pan the webcam from the pi (aka the web.) :)
[16:39] <djazz> ;D
[16:39] <a930913> Which is what I came to ask on.
[16:39] <djazz> i made a lego robot to let others drive around in my room, with cam livestream
[16:39] <djazz> with rpi on top
[16:40] <pronto> TAFB: :p and the imange is tiny: http://tasty.bagels.xxx/ < image on that
[16:40] <TAFB> a930913: Nice! I am building mount for my solar panel, so my Pi can track the sun during the day :)
[16:40] <pronto> TAFB: ooo, lucky
[16:40] <a930913> How many amps can I move from one ground pin to another?
[16:40] <TAFB> pronto: it's not the WORST I've ever seen :)
[16:40] <pronto> i'm not allowed to have solar panels :(
[16:40] <Armand> TAFB, I know a guy in Cali who can make a nice controller circuit for that. ;)
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[16:41] <Armand> EEK!!
[16:41] <Armand> pervert. ?_?
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[16:41] <TAFB> Armand: hehe :) I'll let you kno if I need help (which I will). Have you done any work with A2D converters for the Pi? I need to read voltage of solar panel (0 to 5v) as well as current draw of Pi and battery pack.
[16:42] <TAFB> Armand: going to use this A2D: http://www.abelectronics.co.uk/products/3/Raspberry-Pi/17/ADC-Pi-V2---Raspberry-Pi-Analogue-to-Digital-converter
[16:42] <Armand> I haven't, sadly..
[16:42] <Armand> My setup is quite simple, as it stands.
[16:42] <Armand> Panel > charge reg > battery > charge reg > LV reg > Pi.
[16:44] <martk100> I am setting Archlinux to work with a GUI. Which video driver do i load. All the ones listed are x86 drivers.
[16:44] <TAFB> Armand: Here is what converts current draw to something the ADC can read: http://www.ebay.com/itm/160898542592
[16:44] <TAFB> Armand: and the ADC can read 0-5v without anything special, so it's good to go for that.
[16:44] <shiftplusone> martk100, just installing xorg-server pulled in all the necessary stuff for me.
[16:44] <djazz> here is my Rpi+cam lego robot, controlled from a website (websockets + bluetooth): http://i.imgur.com/AutQdMu.jpg
[16:45] <shiftplusone> there is no proper pi specific driver yet, use framebuffer.
[16:45] <Armand> Ooohh, I see, TAFB..
[16:45] <Armand> I don't really need anything like that.
[16:45] <martk100> shiftplusone: So you just ignored the video driver part?
[16:46] <BCMM> martk100: on raspbian, xserver-xorg-video-fbdev is the only xserver-xorg-video-* package installed
[16:46] <shiftplusone> martk100, if you're interested http://elinux.org/RPi_Xorg_rpi_Driver
[16:46] <TAFB> Armand: I am testing solar panels for new company, so need to log performance :( like this guy: http://www.briandorey.com/post/Raspberry-Pi-Solar-Data-Logger.aspx
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[16:46] <TAFB> Armand: http://home.briandorey.com/
[16:46] <martk100> shiftplusone: BCMM: Pk thanks lots to think about.
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[16:58] <Armand> TAFB, that makes sense. :)
[16:59] <Armand> At the moment, I just have the solar plant.. I'm waiting on a switching controller for my backup transformer.
[17:00] <Armand> It just works by sensing the voltage drop as the batteries fade and turns on the AC for the transformer.
[17:01] <TAFB> Armand: Nice!! I am hoping my batteries will last a long time. The Pi will be powered ONLY by solar and battery, no mains/AC backup! eeeek
[17:01] <Armand> O_O
[17:02] <Armand> I've got 28Ah here, across 4 deep-cycle.. but, I want to provide a fail-safe.
[17:02] <TAFB> For just a Pi? or what are you running!??! :)
[17:02] <Armand> I will be expanding my project, so.. the fail-safe is essential.
[17:02] <Armand> Moar Pi!
[17:02] <Armand> And, maybe some ODroid. :)
[17:03] <TAFB> lol. Can't wait for my Odriod :)
[17:03] <Armand> Get me one.... ;)
[17:03] <TAFB> I have some special projects on the go that will drain free cash (solar plus live even streaming over the web)
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[17:04] <Armand> I just don't have the money to push forward yet.. :(
[17:04] <TAFB> Armand: you need a 2nd job!!! cash flow = good money for projects ;)
[17:07] <Armand> I need a 1st job! -_-
[17:08] <Armand> I have an interview on Wednesday.. Really hoping I get it.
[17:08] <TAFB> Armand: Nice! Good luck :) If you don't get it, just remember, there's lots of jobs out there that nobody wants to do, sometimes, you have to do them :)
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[17:08] <Armand> I've recently had one..
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[17:09] <Armand> But, that's past.
[17:09] <TAFB> Ok, massive snow storm moving in...
[17:09] <Armand> Where?
[17:09] <TAFB> I better get my running around done, driving car with 19" Pirelli summer tires is not good in snow.
[17:09] <TAFB> near Toronto, Ontario, Canada
[17:10] <TAFB> Looks like this in winter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKy2lLNQYrI
[17:10] <Armand> Should be far away enough from my gf then. :D
[17:12] <Torikun> oi
[17:12] <Armand> Yo!
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[17:13] <TAFB> Torikun! HI! :) Must run to bank before snow, be back soon
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[17:13] <Armand> Good luck.
[17:13] <Torikun> ok tc
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[17:22] <Jinxed-> anyone know of any good server setups using rpi
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[17:23] <Torikun> I do
[17:23] <Torikun> I have a 3 pi mini cluster
[17:23] <Torikun> for web,ssh,email
[17:23] <Torikun> www.linux-toys.com has my guides
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[17:24] <herdingcat> hi, which git repo is the latest kernel for rpi?
[17:25] <Armand> Reminds me, Torikun.. I send to setup e-mail on mine.
[17:25] <Armand> I bought a domain, I'm not really taking advantage of it. :/
[17:25] <Torikun> Follow my guide then =)
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[17:27] <Armand> I don't think that really suits my setup.
[17:27] <Torikun> ah ok
[17:27] <Armand> And, I'm pretty sure I'm not restricted on any ports. ;)
[17:27] <Torikun> I had a nother filesystem corruption case on the Pi
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[17:27] <Torikun> It was up for 3 days
[17:27] <Torikun> I am really wodnering about ext4 reliability
[17:27] <Torikun> so trying ext3 now
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[17:28] <Armand> EXT4 here.. it's been 5 days since my last restart.
[17:28] <Armand> I've had that running since the end of October.
[17:28] <Torikun> Nice
[17:28] <Armand> *there-abouts. :P
[17:29] <Torikun> I hate filesystem corruption lol
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[17:29] <Armand> What I really need, is to have my gateway server running.
[17:29] <Armand> But, I don't have the space for it. :/
[17:29] <Torikun> I have 1 pi running DNS
[17:29] <Torikun> DNS is great to have in the home
[17:29] <Torikun> no more changing all the /etc/hosts
[17:30] <Armand> Well, I have a lot to set up still.. reverse proxy, e-mail server, backup host, etc.
[17:30] <Torikun> how many Pi do you have
[17:30] <Armand> 1....
[17:30] <Armand> lol
[17:30] <Torikun> you will need a few more lol
[17:31] <Torikun> IO is horrible on the pi
[17:31] <Armand> Of course.
[17:31] <Mortvert> Grrr. Who do i bite to make RS ship out my RPi faster?
[17:31] <Armand> But, I have a Q6600 gathering dust.. that will be the gateway/etc.
[17:31] <Torikun> I know a site that has them in stock all the time
[17:31] <Torikun> MMC electronics
[17:31] <Armand> modmypi...
[17:32] <Mortvert> Torikun - i bought them from RS because they weren't $60 like every other site
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[17:32] <Mortvert> and i live in EU
[17:32] <Torikun> oh
[17:32] <Torikun> =(
[17:32] <Mortvert> element17 uses a retailer to sell in poland
[17:32] <Mortvert> and it costs 189 PLN using their retailer
[17:33] <Armand> Mortvert, https://www.modmypi.com/
[17:33] * dape puts a 5day tranq. shot into Mortvert :P
[17:33] <Mortvert> dape - i ain't even got a idea if it got ent out
[17:33] <Mortvert> how i wish there was someone from RS here
[17:34] <dape> Mortvert Poland iirc?
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[17:34] <Torikun> Mortvert: start ordering your case, charger, sd card, etc lol
[17:34] <Mortvert> dape - yep
[17:34] <dape> that is not a bad idea, order your accessories, will keep you busy
[17:34] <Mortvert> Torikun - no money, i'll be able to put a case together from lego i have, and i'll prolly borrow the charger from someone
[17:35] <Torikun> sd?
[17:35] <Mortvert> have one
[17:35] <Torikun> Excellent
[17:35] <Mortvert> have a raspbian flashed on it
[17:35] <Torikun> Your ready to go!
[17:36] <Torikun> lol]
[17:36] <Mortvert> Hence why i want RS to hurry the hell up
[17:36] <Torikun> RS was super slow for me a few months ago
[17:36] <Torikun> I cancelled and found one local
[17:37] <Torikun> they had me waiting 2 months
[17:37] <Mortvert> I'll wait till next week's end
[17:37] <Mortvert> After that - i'll be cancelling. :|
[17:39] <Armand> I did some research before ordering mine.. There were so many complaints about RS (before the 512MB) that I just decided to avoid them.
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[17:39] <dape> you guys make me feel so ashamed i got my two Pis in 24hrs :(
[17:40] <Armand> I ordered from modmypi and had it after.. 4-5 days?
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[17:40] <Mortvert> I'm waiting since16-01
[17:41] <Mortvert> Mail said expected despatch time: 7 days
[17:41] <Mortvert> And many people are saying they never got the despatch mail
[17:41] <Armand> fk RS. ?_?
[17:41] <Mortvert> So maybe it's in transit now.. (Or so i hope)
[17:42] <DeliriumTremens> It's a Mortvert D:
[17:42] <Mortvert> it's a DeliriumTremens.
[17:42] <Armand> Iiiitttssss... the RED HOT CHILLIPEPPERS!
[17:42] <Armand> Sorry.
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[17:47] <Mortvert> ARGH. Why i didn't know of ModMyPi?
[17:47] <Armand> You didn't ask me, before you ordered.... :P
[17:47] * Armand ducks
[17:47] * Mortvert slaps Armand around a bit with a large trout
[17:47] <Armand> ?_?
[17:47] * Armand smacks Mortvert with a whole tuna!
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[18:28] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://store.raspberrypi.com/projects/openarena?ck well done Davespice
[18:29] * Davespice bows
[18:29] <Davespice> I deserve no credit really
[18:29] <Davespice> all I did was package up the components and write a couple of scripts
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[18:29] <RaTTuS|BIG> ;-p
[18:29] <RaTTuS|BIG> well I have to go to the pub now....
[18:29] <RaTTuS|BIG> so ....
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[18:29] * TAFB is home safe :) damn snow
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[18:46] <pronto> http://vps3.pronto185.com/ yay for horribad html :D
[18:46] * pronto <3 <hr> and <table>
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[18:47] <Torikun> Yes!
[18:48] <Torikun> wow a linode that points back to your house
[18:48] <Torikun> what is the point lol
[18:49] <Torikun> pronto: ?
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[18:50] <pronto> Torikun: so i can display the webpage being served from a rpi :p
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[18:51] <Torikun> oh ok
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[18:51] <jnix-rpi> i have a question, cat /proc/cpuinfo says my CPU is GenuineIntel, Intel Xeon CPU L5520 o.o
[18:51] <jnix-rpi> any idea why it's saying intel xeon?
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[18:51] <Torikun> that is the name of the cpu
[18:51] <Torikun> Xeon branch
[18:52] <Torikun> *model
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[18:52] <jnix-rpi> even though it's a broadcom arm cpu?
[18:52] <Torikun> let me check mine
[18:52] <pronto> wait what
[18:52] <jnix-rpi> :D
[18:52] <pronto> really? xD
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[18:52] <jnix-rpi> this is from my rpi
[18:52] <pronto> mine says arm whatver
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[18:52] <jnix-rpi> http://fpaste.org/Z3wO/
[18:52] <mjr> I think you're accidentally on the wrong shell
[18:52] <Torikun> Processor : ARMv6-compatible processor rev 7 (v6l)
[18:52] <pronto> ^^
[18:52] <Torikun> Yeah mjr is right
[18:52] <Torikun> lol
[18:52] <pronto> lol
[18:52] <jnix-rpi> nope, definitely the right shell
[18:52] <Torikun> wtf
[18:52] <pronto> lmao
[18:53] <pronto> that's great
[18:53] <jnix-rpi> Linux raspberrypi 3.2.27+ #250 PREEMPT Thu Oct 18 19:03:02 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
[18:53] <Torikun> that is right
[18:53] <jnix-rpi> uname says arm but /proc/cpuinfo is wrong
[18:53] <jnix-rpi> lol
[18:53] <Torikun> pastebin!
[18:53] <Torikun> lol
[18:53] <shiftplusone> Then you did something horribly wrong and only you may possibly know what that is
[18:53] <mjr> rejoice for your $35 Xeon computer
[18:54] <jnix-rpi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1570407/
[18:54] <jnix-rpi> shiftplusone: i downloaded the wheezy image from raspberrypi.org
[18:55] <jnix-rpi> if it matters i've got the new pi board
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[18:55] <jnix-rpi> its' not affecting anything, i just find it a little comical :)
[18:55] <shiftplusone> Does it match any computer you have?
[18:56] <jnix-rpi> nope, don't have a xeon at home on my network at all
[18:56] <jnix-rpi> couple amd procs and an intel core2 duo
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[18:56] <shiftplusone> hm
[18:56] <shiftplusone> I blame the raspbian guys. Has there been a new image recently? O_o
[18:57] <shiftplusone> hm 16th
[18:57] <shiftplusone> of december
[18:57] <shiftplusone> no idea then
[18:57] <jnix-rpi> i'll let them know
[18:57] <jnix-rpi> i don't know what that would affect but JIC
[18:57] <shiftplusone> nuh, I don't think it's them.... I.... don't know what to think anymore
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[18:58] <nickwebcouk> Hey guys. Is there any way to see how an included binary has been compiled? (i.e what arguments were sent to the compiler)? I'm asking for ifupdown - Im having some issues with it trying to get an ip address if the router boots after the pi. Searching the net revealed http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/3332/alter-dhclient-to-retry-fetching-ip-address so I want to see if thats the case
[18:58] <nickwebcouk> ! :)
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[18:59] <advisor> hi
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[18:59] <advisor> i have a question
[18:59] <advisor> on moebius (stripped-down raspbian) i only get sound as root, but not as normal user
[18:59] <advisor> forum search says downgrade is the option, but i don't believe that
[18:59] <advisor> any experience ?
[19:00] <|Jeroen|> add the user to audio group
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[19:00] <|Jeroen|> i guess :-)
[19:01] <mgottschlag> nickwebcouk: no, but why would you need to do that? usually, compiling doesn't involve a single gcc call, but many, one per source file
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[19:01] <mgottschlag> ah, you want to completely recompile that program?
[19:01] <advisor> |Jeroen|: thanks, but no work, i still get the same errormsgs
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[19:02] <nickwebcouk> mgottschlag: im having the same issue as that stack exchange poster. Im looking to see if i can fix it. I wasnted to check first if there were argumetns passed to the compiler, and next is to find out whats calling that binary, and with what argumetns..
[19:02] <shiftplusone> advisor, have you logged out and back in?
[19:02] <mgottschlag> "http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/3332/alter-dhclient-to-retry-fetching-ip-address" = in the source code, not in the compiler parameters
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[19:03] <advisor> shiftplusone: success!
[19:03] <mgottschlag> if you just want to see whether there is anything built into it, run "strings" on the program and run grep over the result
[19:03] <shiftplusone> yay
[19:03] <ciboulette> so, since the keyboard wouldn't work with the raspbian installer, i instead put the Darkbasic image on my SD card...i am happy to see that regressed a bit further after this work; now i don't even get any display when booting
[19:03] <ciboulette> so, what's up with this?
[19:03] <advisor> |Jeroen| , shiftplusone , many thanks
[19:03] <advisor> have a nice day !
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[19:04] <shiftplusone> take care
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[19:05] <shiftplusone> ciboulette, you're using obscure methods people don't use, so your best bet is to talk to the people/person who wrote the installer or made that specific image.
[19:05] <ciboulette> shiftplusone: so...like...is there anything that actually WORKS?
[19:06] <mgottschlag> nickwebcouk: also, if you find that string in the binary, you might even be able to modify it with a hex editor if the string length isn't increased
[19:06] <shiftplusone> Yes, http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
[19:06] <shiftplusone> It sounds like you want to be using Arch
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[19:07] <ciboulette> shiftplusone: i certainly don't want to be use the grossly outdated and generally unmanaged Arch ARM
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[19:08] <shiftplusone> right
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[19:09] <|Jeroen|> then use gentoo :-)
[19:09] <ciboulette> shiftplusone: i assume the standard raspbian hard-float?
[19:10] <shiftplusone> yes, that's what's recommended for beginners and first time pi users.
[19:10] <ciboulette> shiftplusone: does it have an ssh server?
[19:10] <shiftplusone> yes
[19:11] <shiftplusone> enabled by default
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[19:13] <Tachyon`> any idea why my pi might fail to detect a USB keybaord some boots but not others (tried two, same result)
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[19:14] <FrankBlues> Power supply issues?
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[19:15] <Tachyon`> hrm, suppose it could be but there's only the keyboard plugged in.. claims to be a 1A supply although the polyfuse has not been linked out on this pi, they are just wired keyboards though, wouldn't think they'd use much
[19:16] <Tachyon`> hrm, my samsung supply is 2A, I'll try taht
[19:16] <ciboulette> Tachyon`: 1A should be enough, but the pi usb ports are below standard power
[19:17] <shiftplusone> Tachyon`, not much of a difference between 1A and 2A supplies, since the pi won't be able to draw more than about 750mA-1A.
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[19:18] <Tachyon`> ah, and it made no difference
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[19:18] <Tachyon`> did see some usb error fly past, I'll see if I can get that
[19:19] <shiftplusone> Especially if you have a model with the USB polyfuses, keyboards can be tricky
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[19:20] <Tachyon`> hrm, it keeps working now just to thwart my testing
[19:20] <Tachyon`> but no, this is my new pi, 512MB etc.
[19:21] <Tachyon`> even the old one had 0 ohm resistors in place of the USB polyfuses
[19:21] <shiftplusone> ah ok
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[19:21] <Tachyon`> I'd just link it out but someone is borrowing my soldering station so I can't, lol
[19:21] <Tachyon`> the main polyfuse that is
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[19:23] <Tachyon`> hrm, seems that error was unrelated anyway
[19:23] <Weaselweb> does cpufreq support more than 700MHz? I only get "bcm2835-cpufreq: min=700000 max=700000 cur=700000"
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[19:24] <Weaselweb> so obviously it is limited to 700 MHz
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[19:25] <Torikun> anyone using their mega account?
[19:25] <shiftplusone> Weaselweb, have you overclocked in config.txt?
[19:25] <Weaselweb> I only have root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootdelay=2 rootfstype=ext4 gpu_mem=16 in my config.txt
[19:26] <shiftplusone> that's cmdline.txt
[19:26] <Weaselweb> oh, yes. I don't have config.txt at all
[19:27] <shiftplusone> http://elinux.org/RPiconfig
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[19:29] <Flipo> Hello, I'm trying to run a python program in the backgroud using python myscript.py > logfile.txt & when I do that logfile.txt is always empty any ideas ?
[19:31] <s5fs> Flipo: try logging stderr and stdout together maybe?
[19:31] <s5fs> Flipo: myscript.py > logfile.txt 2>&1
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[19:31] * Tachyon` just declares victory anyway since it only seems to take one extra boot before it works
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[19:32] <s5fs> Flipo: another option is to write a logging method in python
[19:32] <s5fs> shiftplusone: do you know if the fixup files are required in the boot partition? i'm building images using angstrom and can't get the darned thing to boot, i'm thinking maybe i need another file or three.
[19:33] <shiftplusone> s5fs, yeah I think they are.
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[19:34] <Flipo> s5fs: I tried both (using sys.stdout) and when the program is in the backgroudn (using &) it doesn't log anything
[19:34] <s5fs> shiftplusone: okay, that prob explains it. seems there's a gap in the documentation.
[19:35] <shiftplusone> s5fs, I think it should boot without them though, but I haven't tried. What documentation is that?
[19:36] <s5fs> shiftplusone: http://elinux.org/RPi_Advanced_Setup#Setting_up_the_boot_partition
[19:36] <Flipo> s5fs: ah I got it to work, for the text to populate I need to kill the process first
[19:36] <s5fs> Flipo: hm, weird. i'd try rolling a quick python script that logs to a file, then see if that continues to work when you background it. i don't recall having any issues with stdout/stderr when backgrounding jobs
[19:36] <s5fs> Flipo: sweet!
[19:37] <Flipo> s5fs: I wonder if there's a way to write to the log file while the program is running (so I can watch the log while the program is running)
[19:37] <shiftplusone> s5fs, do you have a usb serial converter handy, it might help you a lot.
[19:37] <s5fs> Flipo: i'd move the logging function into python
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[19:38] <s5fs> shiftplusone: yes, i'm connecting via serial, no display/keyboard/etc/
[19:38] <shiftplusone> ah, so you don't get the kernel booting at all at all?
[19:38] <Flipo> s5fs: yeah that's a good idea, thanks !
[19:39] <s5fs> shiftplusone: i'm certain the card is partitioned correctly, if i populate it from a 'known good' image (such as raspbian) then she boots, but if i use my own files it's no dice. i don't get any boot info at all, haha
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[19:39] <s5fs> Flipo: also, logging is fun and python makes working with files fairly trivial
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[19:40] <s5fs> shiftplusone: i figure it's just an issue i need to push on for a while until i get the right combo. the docs don't seem to give the complete picture, else my system would be booting and at least giving me new errors ;-)
[19:41] <shiftplusone> s5fs, I'd copy all the /boot files from github and then experiment by removing them one at a time to figure out which, if any, are optional.
[19:41] <s5fs> shiftplusone: which github? that's a great idea btw.
[19:42] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware
[19:42] <shiftplusone> The latest firmware is here https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot
[19:42] <s5fs> shiftplusone: i haven't upgraded the firmware (512mb, just arrived a few weeks ago), is that a required/recommended step?
[19:43] <s5fs> ah, so the firmware only liveson the card, then? it doens't update anything in the device?
[19:43] <Flipo> s5fs: just tried with the logging module and it works as expected !
[19:43] <shiftplusone> If you're having usb issues and such it might be worth a shot, but you can see the changelog to figure out if there's anything important you're missing
[19:43] <s5fs> Flipo: awesome! good logging is a huge help, bad logging is still better than nothing.
[19:43] <shiftplusone> It's just little fixes here and there https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/commits/master
[19:44] <s5fs> shiftplusone: gotcha. i'll give these files a spin tonight. i'll also try to find the guy who wrote rasppi angstrom stuff, i chatted w/him on irc a while ago, he prob has some ideas too :-D
[19:45] <shiftplusone> s5fs, djwillis or soemthing like that?
[19:45] <s5fs> shiftplusone: yup, that's the guy
[19:45] <shiftplusone> I've seen him in #openpandora
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[19:45] <s5fs> shiftplusone: i see him in #angstrom, but that channel is really quiet
[19:46] <shiftplusone> Keep me posted, I've been interested in OE on pi as well, but haven't had much luck figuring it out. The documentation is terrible.
[19:47] <s5fs> shiftplusone: yocto project has better documentation, but it takes a while to figure out what the big pieces are, and who's responsible for them. i've been poking at this for several weeks now without much success, but i'm not investing much effort yet either.
[19:47] <s5fs> crazy thing is, I have an OE guy that I'm working closely with, but it seems so much of the angstrom build process is just being stubborn that it's hard to cross-train.
[19:47] <shiftplusone> Yeah, I've tried to go through the yocto documentation as well, but it seemed to require more effort that I was willing ot put in
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[19:48] <s5fs> shiftplusone: well, i'm determined to get this working, and i take decent-ish notes, so hopefully once I get going we can get you going too.
[19:48] <s5fs> cuz two guys half-assing something == one full-assed approach
[19:48] * s5fs was kicked from #raspberrypi by IT_Sean
[19:49] <shiftplusone> but.. but... we were having a discussion
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[19:49] <s5fs> IT_Sean: really dude?
[19:49] <shiftplusone> s5fs, it's in the topic, don't bother arguing.
[19:49] <IT_Sean> It's clearly spelled out in the topic line. so... yeah. really.
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[19:50] <s5fs> I hate poorly enforced morality, I do not consider my conduct inappropriate nor offensive.
[19:50] <shiftplusone> it's not a morality issue
[19:50] <s5fs> IT_Sean: of course I will respect the rules, but a gentle reminder would've been more appropriate imho.
[19:50] <shiftplusone> at least to me it's not a morality isue
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[19:51] <s5fs> Well, whatever you wanna call it. I'm actively working to contribute and share my experiences. Until now I've never been kicked from a channel.
[19:51] <s5fs> Was very surprised, is all.
[19:52] <shiftplusone> s5fs, don't take it personally
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[19:55] <shiftplusone> s5fs, have you got a rootfs built?
[19:55] <s5fs> shiftplusone: yeah, rootfs looks good
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[19:55] <shiftplusone> Well that's the tricky bit, getting the kernel and the modules is trivial
[19:56] <s5fs> well, once I get a kernel booting i can figure out the rest, but if i can't get the bootloader to fire that's tough.
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[19:57] <shiftplusone> Nuh, you're pretty much done. Got the firmware cloned from github? dump it on the fat32 partition, copy the modules to the linux filesystem and that should be enough
[19:58] <shiftplusone> and the /opt stuff for the videocore libs
[19:58] <s5fs> shiftplusone: i hope so, i wanna get on to package creation, haha
[19:58] <s5fs> anyways, i gotta get back to work, i has code that won't hack itself, haha! later gang!
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[19:59] <s5fs> shiftplusone: thx for the firmware feedback, i'll give it a whirl this weekend and check back with my status.
[19:59] <shiftplusone> take care
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[19:59] <s5fs> you too!
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[20:00] <qbrix> assume?
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[20:00] <qbrix> ass
[20:00] <sofyan> hello guys
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[20:00] <Torikun> oi
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[20:02] <sofyan> how to know if the webcam supports mjpeg or not?
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[20:04] <zlate> do we have anyone in here that know the OMXplayer and streaming h264 video?
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[20:07] <shiftplusone> zlate, knows what about it?
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[20:08] <zlate> shiftplusone: that can troubleshot and check why some videos are lagging and some are not
[20:09] <shiftplusone> Exactly the same encoding? The GPU doesn't decode all h264 videos, it's limited to a certain resolution and framerate afaik
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[20:10] <zlate> The video info that can be shown in the top of the screen while running it, it looks the same afaik
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[20:11] <shiftplusone> I'd run 'file video.whatever' on both files to verify.
[20:11] <zlate> Might have something to do with "avc1.77.30" codec, but i dont know how omxplayer deals with that or how optimised it is
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[20:12] <zlate> Its a streamed video, thats whats make it harder to judge
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[20:12] <shiftplusone> yup, fair enough
[20:12] <SwK> 10000mah battery from anker rocks for RPi FYI, 5v @ 3A max load, I'm guessing something like 10 to 12 hours on a moderately used rpi
[20:13] <shiftplusone> I've seen many threads about omxplayer and streaming on the forum though, maybe have a look there.
[20:17] <zlate> I cant run omxplayer from commandline, what is the command to run it?
[20:18] <bxc> got my assembled gertboard and trying to control the LEDs on it - I see a bunch of stuff saying "don't be surprised if they flash randomly" but its not clear to me if I've wired them up right to the GPIO outputs should I be expecting them to still not behave right?
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[20:20] <jnix-rpi> i have a pretty retarded question for you guys.. i'm going to be building a custom kernel, can i do that on an x86_64 box or do i need to compile on the rpi?
[20:20] <pronto> cross compile
[20:20] <pronto> should work
[20:20] <jnix-rpi> cool
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[20:20] <pronto> jnix-rpi: http://www.ailis.de/~k/archives/19-ARM-cross-compiling-howto.html
[20:20] <jnix-rpi> yeah, my sd card is terrible, i'm looking at root on nfs
[20:20] <pronto> might help
[20:20] <pronto> --target=arm-linux
[20:20] <pronto> probably something simliar for kernels
[20:20] <jnix-rpi> sweet, it's not blocked by webnonsense
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[20:22] <mark_vh> jnix-rpi: spare usb-keys also do wonders, at least in my case
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[20:23] <shiftplusone> pronto, ARCH=ARM
[20:23] <shiftplusone> and specify the crosscompiler
[20:23] <shiftplusone> pretty straight forward
[20:23] <pronto> jnix-rpi: ^
[20:23] <mark_vh> all i did was flash image to usb key, change the cmdline.txt on original sd-card and you're done...with the original system still available on sd
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[20:28] <jnix-rpi> gotcha
[20:28] <jnix-rpi> thanks for the help guys :)
[20:28] <jnix-rpi> mark_vh: idk what the issue is (haven't had time to test) but tried putting a USB HDD on the rpi this am and it kept resetting
[20:29] <mjr> it certainly won't get enough power from the pi
[20:29] <shiftplusone> jnix-rpi, without a hub? sounds like you're tripping the polyfuse.
[20:29] <mjr> so I hope you powered it some other way
[20:29] <mjr> if not, that's your problem
[20:29] <jnix-rpi> shiftplusone: i don't have a hub connected to it, might be a good idea to look into that though
[20:30] <jnix-rpi> i do have a hub that has the ability to use an external power source, just gotta go pick up a dc adapter at bestbuy or something
[20:30] <shiftplusone> or get a hdd with an external power source
[20:30] <jnix-rpi> or that
[20:30] <jnix-rpi> any foreseeable issues with using nfs for my rootfs?
[20:30] <shiftplusone> or short out the polyfuse if you don't care about warranty
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[20:31] <shiftplusone> it's doable, make sure you have a static IP, otherwise it can be a bit of a pain
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[20:33] <zlate> Does the VC-1 license improve performance on streamed videos with "avc1.77.30" codec ?
[20:33] <jnix-rpi> i think i'll leave the polyfuse be :)
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[20:34] <mjr> zlate, it's h.264, so no
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[20:34] <zlate> mjr: ok,thanks
[20:34] <mjr> should be accelerated as such
[20:35] <mjr> using an accelerated player of course
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[20:36] <jnix-rpi> oh man they block the rpi forums up here too, geez...
[20:36] <jnix-rpi> when overclocking do i need to be concerned about heat issues?
[20:37] <shiftplusone> jnix-rpi, nope, but you can monitor it for a while if you are concerned.
[20:37] <Kane> hey \o
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[20:37] <jnix-rpi> cool, was thinking about clocking it up to the turbo mode setting but don't wanna fry it
[20:37] <shiftplusone> ahoy
[20:37] <mjr> it was my understanding that the turbo mode actually disables overclock if it gets too hot
[20:38] <jnix-rpi> oh cool
[20:38] <jnix-rpi> i wish i could read documentation, curse you $employer's_isa_proxy
[20:38] <mjr> though verify that if you want to rely on it ;)
[20:38] <jnix-rpi> "blocked by reputation"
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[20:42] <VetteWork> when running xsession, can I run it in a window or is it just full screen?
[20:43] <mjr> well, you can start a nested X server (such as Xephyr) if you want another whole X session inside a window
[20:43] <VetteWork> im running mint on virtualbox, then xsession into the pi, but I dont have my mint desktop anymore
[20:45] <Primer> I know this isn't the right channel for this, but here goes:
[20:45] <Primer> Anyone familiar with DLNA? I have ps3mediaserver and an h264+mp3 stream created by VLC. I'm wondering if there's a way to create a playlist file with the stream URL in it, drop it in a directory served by ps3mediaserver, and play it using DLNA
[20:46] <Primer> All the google searching I've done just yields people trying to "stream" things like youtube via ps3mediaserver to a DLNA device
[20:46] <Primer> Which involves pd3mediaserver actually doing transcoding. I just want the DLNA device to read the stream directly
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[20:47] <pronto> xD someone DOS'd my raspberry pi for a bit
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[21:17] <pronto> for people who use webcams on their RPI, you ever run into : http://tasty.bagels.xxx/cam/poop.txt errors, when trying to grab an image from it .. only happens something, comand: $streamer -o out.jpeg
[21:17] <pronto> could just be the bad webcrama that was a 2 for $5 directfromchina
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[21:32] <AndrevS> I haven't hooked up a webcam to my rpi yet, but I have been experiencing varous problems due bad cheap USB hubs
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[21:55] <linuxthefish> can i run my pi in an enclosed space?
[21:55] <linuxthefish> CPU temp is 51.4oC
[21:55] <nid0> yes
[21:55] <nid0> assuming you mean enclosed as in somewhere as small as a case would be
[21:56] <Lisa_Fox> I?ve seen chip heatsinks for the Pi, it might be helpful in that case... not sure.
[21:56] <nid0> theyre gimmicks rather than useful
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[21:56] <Lisa_Fox> nid0, ah! thanks for letting me know, waste of money.
[21:56] <nid0> you gotta try really hard to get the pi to top 60, and you're never gonna have any heat problems until 70-80 at the least
[21:57] <double-you> I use 3 heatsinks and my pi never got above 42??, 900mhz
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[21:58] <linuxthefish> full load, 800Mhz, in a plastic bag = "temp=54.1'C"
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[22:01] <linuxthefish> cases are to expensive, so i'm using the antistatic bag thing it came in :)
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[22:06] <apo> Huh
[22:06] <apo> My pi's booting the emergency kernel for some reason...
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[22:06] <apo> How do I diagnose this? >_>
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[22:11] <shiftplusone> I think someone was having that issue when their hdmi cable was connected, but poorly.
[22:11] <shiftplusone> Sure you don't have a dodgy hdmi cable?
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[22:14] <apo> I didn't even have it connected at the time
[22:15] <shiftplusone> I don't have personal experience with this so... no idea then.
[22:15] <shiftplusone> unless you have something in config that forces hdmi, but I doubt it.
[22:16] <mgottschlag> "<linuxthefish> cases are to expensive, so i'm using the antistatic bag thing it came in :)" - wtf, you know that antistatic bags are conductive?
[22:17] <mgottschlag> never run electronics in or on their bags if you didn't measure the bag material resistance first (most have some other non-conductive layer above the metallic layer though)
[22:18] <shiftplusone> mgottschlag, just tested a few bags, haven't found a conductive one yet.
[22:18] <apo> it's booting now...
[22:18] <apo> oh well
[22:18] <mgottschlag> shiftplusone: still, not a good idea imho
[22:18] <shiftplusone> agreed
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[22:32] <mrmoney2012> got a PIR sensor working - easy - great fun!
[22:33] <rikkib> I have placed mother boards on anti-static bags. I do not think they are conductive. They just do not hold charge.
[22:34] <shiftplusone> There might be different types some of which might be conductive, I suppose
[22:34] <rikkib> mrmoney2012, I commercial unit or a module?
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[22:34] <mrmoney2012> module thing - off ebay
[22:34] <mrmoney2012> looks like this http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2013/01/cheap-pir-sensors-and-the-raspberry-pi-part-1/
[22:35] <mrmoney2012> mine has a jumper switch on it as well - not sure what it;s for
[22:35] <rikkib> I just scored one of these... http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=552655418
[22:35] <rikkib> Ahhh same thing
[22:36] <rikkib> Now what did you do? :)
[22:36] <mrmoney2012> well - there's the question !
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[22:36] <mrmoney2012> i have a servo running too.
[22:36] <mrmoney2012> so i have glued a skeletons head to the servo
[22:37] <mrmoney2012> <obviously>
[22:37] <mrmoney2012> and when you approach it the skeleton
[22:37] <rikkib> Hmmm another thing I was thinking of toying with.
[22:37] <mrmoney2012> <spins>
[22:37] <mrmoney2012> it's errr??? well.. rubbish obviously??? but I like it
[22:38] <mrmoney2012> I showed Mrs Money 2012 - and she didn't seem as enthused as me
[22:38] <mrmoney2012> but there you go - that's women for you !
[22:38] <rikkib> What software have you written for the pir? language?
[22:38] <mrmoney2012> copy and paste job
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[22:38] <rikkib> ahhh
[22:39] <mrmoney2012> all here http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2013/01/cheap-pir-sensors-and-the-raspberry-pi-part-1/
[22:39] <rikkib> ta
[22:39] <mrmoney2012> brilliant - easiest GPIO thing i have done with the Pi yet...
[22:39] <rikkib> opps tar
[22:39] <mrmoney2012> just works...
[22:39] <mrmoney2012> annoyingly my serve requires external power
[22:39] <mrmoney2012> servo
[22:40] <double-you> mrmoney2012: how high was cpu last?
[22:40] <rikkib> The way of the Pi
[22:41] <double-you> cpu load*
[22:41] <rikkib> I do the same to power stuff I hook to the RPi
[22:41] <mrmoney2012> 0.47, 0.25, 0.35
[22:42] <rikkib> Just control lines no power drawn from the RPi... Extra polyfuses on the vero boards I make up.
[22:42] <mrmoney2012> 1860 root 20 0 9844 4252 2460 R 96.4 2.3 1:27.07 python
[22:42] <mrmoney2012> oops - 96.4 pretty high load then
[22:43] <double-you> I have no idea about python but I would try to find something like a wait command
[22:43] <rikkib> That is todays project... Make up another break out board for things like relays and power STM32V hooked to the RPi
[22:43] <mrmoney2012> ok thanks
[22:44] <rikkib> Or write it in C :)
[22:45] <rikkib> No point encouraging the youth to write python if they do not start on learning C straight away.
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[22:45] * mrmoney2012 youth??? chuckles
[22:46] <rikkib> You get my meaning... You may not but trying to instil a philosophy in the group
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[22:47] <mrmoney2012> ruby?
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[22:47] <rikkib> C
[22:47] <rikkib> The commerial is in C
[22:48] <mrmoney2012> enough for me tonight
[22:48] <mrmoney2012> tara - C u later??? oh dear
[22:48] <rikkib> Use anything else and you will most likely find yourself recoding in C anyway... For tests and R&D anything goes to prove the concept
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[22:49] <shiftplusone> The scientific and education community seems to like python
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[22:56] <petersaints> yeah... I just received my Pi and is already up and running :P
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[22:58] <apo> pie gpio # echo 1 > gpio1/value
[22:58] <apo> and bam, my light turns on
[22:58] <apo> awesome \o/
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[23:02] <linuxstb> Primer: I don't know about ps3mediaserver, but with mediatomb (another DLNA server), you would create an "external link" and put the URL of your vlc stream in that.
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[23:12] <Primer> linuxstb: Thing is, I don't want the media server to be involved in this at all, other than to point the DLNA client to the stream
[23:13] <Primer> linuxstb: I'm mostly wondering if it's even possible. For example, someone here that that for xbmc. He added the URL to my stream to a file, and xmbc opened my stream directly. I realize that's not exactly the same thing
[23:14] <[Ex0r]> man I love my new raspberry pi
[23:15] <[Ex0r]> everyone told me raspberry pi doesnt run xbmc good, they were wrong
[23:15] <shiftplusone> Agreed, but it doesn't run well if you access things like youtube
[23:16] <shiftplusone> for me atleast
[23:16] <linuxstb> Primer: Yes, that's exactly what an "external link" is in mediatomb. The media server just advertises that URL to the DLNA client, and isn't involved in the actual streaming.
[23:17] <[Ex0r]> it sucks you have to use a powered usb hub to run an external hdd
[23:17] <[Ex0r]> but other than that, it's amazing
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[23:17] <Primer> linuxstb: it seems I'm having the hardest time getting the proper search terms for this
[23:17] <shiftplusone> external powered hdd? worked fine from a typical flash drive for me.
[23:18] <[Ex0r]> not a flash drive
[23:18] <[Ex0r]> an actual 2.5" hdd
[23:18] <shiftplusone> yeah and I am saying a flash drive seems to work fine (that you don't need a proper hdd)
[23:18] <[Ex0r]> I have over 300 gigs worth of videos and music, they don't make 300gig flash drives
[23:19] <shiftplusone> heh, it sounded like you were saying you neede it for performance
[23:19] <shiftplusone> *needed
[23:19] <[Ex0r]> oh, no, heh. Was just saying that it doesn't power it without a usb hub to power the hdd
[23:19] <shiftplusone> yup, got it.
[23:19] <[Ex0r]> which isn't a real big problem, but it makes it harder to be more portable
[23:20] <shiftplusone> You can short out the polyfuse if you're a rebel.
[23:20] <[Ex0r]> nah, i'll keep it stock, dont want to ruin the thing I just got it today
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[23:23] <[Ex0r]> hmm my charger is a 5v 1a, so it wouldn't help disabling the polyfuse anyway
[23:24] <shiftplusone> true
[23:24] <[Ex0r]> wow, the raspberry pi doesnt play hd video very well :\
[23:24] <shiftplusone> depends on the codec
[23:24] <[Ex0r]> its studdering and stopping every 2-3 seconds
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[23:25] <shiftplusone> not encoded right then
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[23:25] <[Ex0r]> you mean for rasppi ?
[23:25] <[Ex0r]> plays fine on other media
[23:25] <shiftplusone> yeah, for the pi
[23:26] <[Ex0r]> any idea what codec/encoding it should use? I have handbrake and can reencode it
[23:26] <TAFB> if you're a curling fan http://tafb02.click2stream.com :)
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[23:27] <shiftplusone> [Ex0r], h264, 1080p@30fps
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[23:29] <shiftplusone> or buy additional licenses
[23:29] <petersaints> what's the minimum memory you can give to GPU? 8MB?
[23:29] <TAFB> 16mb
[23:29] <petersaints> ok
[23:29] <petersaints> tks
[23:29] <[Ex0r]> h264 is fine, I use that
[23:29] <[Ex0r]> thought this was encoded in that, but it must not be
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[23:29] <[Ex0r]> its a 6 gig file, thought I used that when I encoded it
[23:30] <shiftplusone> Might be some other issue that I am not aware of
[23:30] <linuxstb> [Ex0r]: What format is the audio?
[23:30] <[Ex0r]> hdmi
[23:30] <[Ex0r]> oh wait, format
[23:30] <shiftplusone> that's not an audio format O_o
[23:30] <[Ex0r]> dts 5.1
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[23:31] <shiftplusone> " dom ? 25 Aug 2012 10:05
[23:31] <shiftplusone> This is something we are working on."
[23:32] <shiftplusone> Don't know if it's currently supported by the GPU
[23:33] <linuxstb> [Ex0r]: Do you have a DTS-capable audio receiver, or are you decoding it on the Pi? If the latter, then that is likely the issue.
[23:33] <shiftplusone> http://www.memetic.org/raspberry-pi-xbmc-and-dts-audio/
[23:33] <[Ex0r]> yes I have a dts receiver
[23:33] <shiftplusone> hm =/
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[23:33] <linuxstb> [Ex0r]: And you've told xbmc/omxplayer to do audio passthrough?
[23:34] <[Ex0r]> no idea
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[23:36] <[Ex0r]> dont know where to do that at
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[23:42] <[Ex0r]> hmm if I allocate more memory to my gpu will it play video better?
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[23:45] <petersaints> [Ex0r]: I haven't tried that yet
[23:45] <petersaints> but if the decoding is being done via GPU (H.264 for example)
[23:45] <petersaints> than it may help
[23:46] <[Ex0r]> was just wondering if xbmc uses more gpu memory than system memory
[23:46] <[Ex0r]> since its sole purpose is xbmc, if it uses more gpu memory than cpu memory than it would make sense to allocate more to the gpu
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[23:47] <[Ex0r]> I mean, it's working fine but sometimes navigation is slow or it freezes up during menu switching, etc
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[23:51] <linuxthefish> what media players can i use that will support hardware acceleration?
[23:51] <shiftplusone> omxplayer/xbmc
[23:52] <linuxthefish> apart from omxplayer, i want a GUI :(
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[23:54] <shiftplusone> I think I saw something about an gui for omxplayer on the forum
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[23:57] <shiftplusone> *a
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