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IRC Log for 2013-01-26

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[0:12] <Eette> has anyone setup openvpn on a raspberry pi? if so, did you notice any performance issues?
[0:12] <Eette> openvpn server I mean...
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[0:24] <[Ex0r]> hey, another quick question
[0:25] <[Ex0r]> can I format this 1tb external hdd in windows and have xbmc read it natively?
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[0:25] <shiftplusone> yes
[0:25] <[Ex0r]> or do I need to format it to a linux fs and ftp files to and from it ?
[0:25] <[Ex0r]> cause I want to be able to hook the hdd up to my win computer to add new files to it
[0:26] <xzr> ntfs is fine on linux nowadays
[0:27] <[Ex0r]> k
[0:28] <[Ex0r]> I lost my bookmark I had to the custom foldify case
[0:28] <booyaa> heck itll even ready hfs
[0:28] <rikkib> Maybe you will end up mixing and matching
[0:29] <rikkib> Mixed files systems on different partitions matched to the purpose
[0:30] <rikkib> In the end you have ultimate flexibility with Linux
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[0:32] * rikkib is trying to figure what else I need first to get the last of his six RPi heading towards doing something useful
[0:33] * rikkib has two 5w solar panels doing nothing
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[0:34] <Mortvert> rikkib - gimme!
[0:34] * rikkib in NZ
[0:34] <rikkib> got long arms?
[0:34] <Mortvert> Erm. Nothanks then. And stop using /me
[0:35] <rikkib> Don,t like me :)
[0:41] * IT_Sean blinks
[0:41] <linuxthefish> is "arm_freq=1000" safe if i leave the overvolt on 0?
[0:43] <rikkib> Work bench cam http://www.bencom.co.nz/cam/
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[0:48] <SpeedEvil> broken image on right
[0:48] <SpeedEvil> ah - nvm
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[0:51] <[Ex0r]> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=6500
[0:51] <AndrevS> linuxthefish, from my understanding, if you leave the overvolt on 0 you won't break warranty, however, it might become instable at higher speeds.
[0:51] <[Ex0r]> thats awesome, haha
[0:51] <[Ex0r]> looks like construction paper
[0:51] <linuxthefish> ok
[0:51] <shiftplusone> The warranty void condition is on the rpiconfig page on elinux.
[0:51] <linuxthefish> i can't put the clock speed past 900 Mhz without changing the overvolt anyway :)
[0:54] <[Ex0r]> i put mine up to 800
[0:54] <[Ex0r]> dont dare going any higher
[0:54] <linuxthefish> temp still seems stable
[0:54] <linuxthefish> 100% cpu usage and it's still around 48oC
[0:54] <shiftplusone> temp is the last thing you need to worry about
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[0:55] <linuxthefish> what should i worry about?
[0:55] <shiftplusone> stability, that's all.
[0:55] <[Ex0r]> mine was running at 104oF
[0:55] <shiftplusone> ...F
[0:55] <mark_vh> hi, i have been looking into 'reset high-speed USB device' in my kern.log
[0:56] <[Ex0r]> about 40oC to non-american people
[0:57] <mark_vh> it seems they only occur if i copy to a disk that is connected to certain ports on my 7-port hup (i.e. the secondary staggered(?) hub)
[0:57] <mark_vh> all disks are self-powered, and hub is self-powered
[0:57] <mark_vh> is there anything i can do in software to prevent this reset from happening?
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[1:04] <sofyan> helloo guys does anyone tried open CV to do image processing?
[1:04] <nico_> I have a question
[1:04] <rubiconjosh> i have used opencv, but not on the pi
[1:05] <sofyan> i used it too but i need to know if it works well on the pi or not o.o
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[1:06] <rubiconjosh> i plan on streaming video from a web cam hooked to the pi using mjpg-streamer to my desktop with a cuda enabled opencv build to do the processing
[1:06] <nico_> I've conne cted my brand new raspberry pi wired with a power adapter to my router. Its transfering very few packets and wont connect to the internet
[1:06] <nico_> does this make sence?
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[1:07] <rubiconjosh> You did load an operating system on a SD card right?
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[1:08] <sofyan> rubiconjosh: thats cool
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[1:08] <sofyan> rubiconjosh: am trying to do the same thing here
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[1:09] <rubiconjosh> I just got mjpg-streamer running, I do not have a webcam yet so I just verified it is working with the test images. If you have not installed it yet and you are not running arch you will have to compile it from a svn. The tarball on the main sourceforge website is out of date and does not work.
[1:09] <sofyan> rubiconjosh: can u give me some details about how u'll do that? o.o
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[1:10] <sofyan> i did the mjpg streamer part
[1:10] <sofyan> but i need to know how to use it with open CV
[1:10] <sofyan> this will make the process faster right?
[1:12] <rubiconjosh> I have not figured out exactly how I am going to get the images, I have a Qt application I wrote that connects to the Pi over my network, I will either transfer the images into the Qt application and use the functions I want from the OpenCV library or I may use Qt to write something that retrieves them via http since mjpg-streamer is running a webserver. I really have not figured it out yet. Just be sure to have a we
[1:12] <rubiconjosh> bcam that outputs mjpg, your pi will use less than one percent cpu sending the images out since it does not have to do any processing.
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[1:14] <sofyan> yah sure i know that and i tried it already
[1:14] <pksato> a full hd camera? :)
[1:14] <sofyan> rubiconjosh: when u'll start doing this project?
[1:15] <sofyan> rubiconjosh: am gonna buy a new full hd camera tomorrow and start :D
[1:15] <sofyan> rubiconjosh: maybe we can help each other ;)
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[1:15] <rubiconjosh> I have started some of it, I dont know when I will figure out how to retrieve the mjpg images into my application. I do not have a webcam right now so I am just using the test images. I do want to get a 720 camera, I still need to find the right one that outputs mjpg
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[1:17] <sofyan> rubiconjosh: i found in some sites that logitech c170 outputs mjpg and its not so expensive
[1:18] <rubiconjosh> sofyan, thanks I will look into that one
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[1:20] <sofyan> rubiconjosh: np ,if u know any new information please let me know ,me either
[1:20] <rubiconjosh> sounds good, I am in here a good bit so just msg me if you see me here, i will eventually get it. I will let you know once I get something going.
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[1:21] <nico_> im trying to ping 8.8.8.8 but I get connect: Network is unreachable
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[1:21] <sofyan> rubiconjosh: sure thanks :D
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[1:26] <plugwash> nico_, how are you configuring your network?
[1:29] <nico_> plugwash: networkconfiguration
[1:30] <plugwash> hmm, is that some form of GUI or something?
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[1:36] <nico_> its a gui
[1:36] <nico_> came with raspbian
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[1:37] <plugwash> did you remember to set a default gateway?
[1:38] <plugwash> (assuming you did a static configuration that is)
[1:38] <plugwash> also is this wired or wireless?
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[1:44] <shiftplusone> jelly1, hey, looks like mjpeg support has been added.
[1:45] <shiftplusone> jelly1, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=19334&start=275#p269992
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[1:47] <factor> Anyone work with the bcm2835-1.17 lib , I cant seem to get the input to work, the blink output works.
[1:48] <factor> I have the pull up resistor switch in place. but no go.
[1:48] <factor> input and event example code are not working
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[1:50] <nico_> its wired
[1:50] <nico_> i forgot to set a default gateway
[1:50] <nico_> i haven't used debian in years
[1:50] <pronto> http://tasty.bagels.xxx/ so i was able to finnnaly center the webcam :D
[1:50] <factor> debian is what I mostly use
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[1:52] <nico_> I got "RTNETLINK answers: No such process"
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[1:57] <mark_vh> ok, so my 7 port hub s*cks, giving on 4 out of 7 ports:
[1:57] <mark_vh> Jan 26 02:46:18 raspberrypi kernel: [44370.284077] usb 1-1.3.4.2: reset high-speed USB device number 14 using dwc_otg
[1:58] <mark_vh> when copying to the disk using dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/disk/zero.out bs=1M count=100
[1:58] <mark_vh> seems to be a hub problem
[1:58] <mark_vh> XXOO
[1:58] <mark_vh> XXOP
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[1:59] <dr_willis> ive heard of other people with hubs with a lot of ports.. have issues..
[1:59] <mark_vh> X gives the error, O is perfectly ok, and P is power
[1:59] <dr_willis> seems hubs with more then 4 ports can be problematic.
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[1:59] <dr_willis> I wonder if it may be the hub power supply being underpowered for the 3 of ports.
[2:00] <mark_vh> 4 ports
[2:00] <mark_vh> the disk is self-powered though, and any disk connected to the ports marked X will get the resets, resulting in very slow transfer
[2:01] <mark_vh> *diskks are
[2:01] <dr_willis> how slow is slow?
[2:01] <factor> dr_willis, you can check your max power by doing lsusb - v |grep MaxPower
[2:01] <factor> add up all the power ratings
[2:01] <plugwash> Afaict while true 7 port hubs do exist a lot of 7 port hubs are actually two chained four port hubs
[2:01] <shiftplusone> Is it actually accurate?
[2:01] <plugwash> I wonder if this causes some of the problems
[2:01] <factor> that would be the max not the actual
[2:02] <mark_vh> it occurs even if i plug out all other disks, so with a single self-powered disk connected to port marked with X
[2:02] <dr_willis> i had 3 USB - self powered HDs on my Pi the other day.. had all sorts of issues.. unplugged them all.. powered up the pi and the 2 hubs.. then plugged in one hd.. waited a few min.. pluged in the second.. and so on..
[2:03] <mark_vh> dr_willis: 700 kB/s vs 3.3 MB/s on the working ports
[2:03] <dr_willis> they all worked.. but im not sure if it was me rearangeing the cables. or the waiting that worked
[2:03] <shiftplusone> factor, I mean how is that maximum determined, is it just trusting what the device says (probably a lie) or is it actually limited to that current?
[2:04] <factor> its hard coded info , like a label on the device.
[2:05] <factor> except its a digital version
[2:05] <shiftplusone> So... it's pretty much meaningless then =/
[2:05] <plugwash> It means about as much as the CE mark on a PSU bought direct from china on ebay
[2:05] <factor> well its a general reference as to what the max current it will use
[2:06] <mark_vh> in the case of the disks i used to test, maxPower is 2 mA
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[2:08] <shiftplusone> plugwash, or as much as "battery life" estimates from device manufacturers =p
[2:08] <mark_vh> anyway, moral of the story: if there's still performance problems after all usb-related fixes...try different ports on your hub ;)
[2:08] <factor> Anyone here use the BCM2835 lib.
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[2:19] <mark_vh> for completeness, the hub I was talking about is a Belkin Hi-Speed USB 2.0 7-Port Mobile Hub (http://www.belkin.com/us/p/P-F5U701)
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[2:23] <Torikun> i am getting bus errors
[2:23] <Torikun> and can;t even reboot and have the Pi come back
[2:23] <Torikun> sometimes
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[2:36] <[Ex0r]> hmm isnt usb3 like 400MB ?
[2:36] <[Ex0r]> I have my hdd plugged into the usb3 slot on my motherboard and it's transferring at like 25MB
[2:37] <Triffid_Hunter> [Ex0r]: usb transfer rate isn't the only factor.. the disk itself can only go so fast
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[2:37] <pksato> you hdd is usb3? (blue connector)
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[2:37] <[Ex0r]> pksato- no idea, it's in an enclosure
[2:37] <[Ex0r]> but it says on the label usb 3.0
[2:37] <[Ex0r]> so you would assume from that that it is
[2:38] <[Ex0r]> I am copying from a 7200rpm sata internal to an external usb 3
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[2:43] <rikkib> 14:43:05.231076 IP crawl-66-249-73-240.googlebot.com.61125 > bencom.co.nz.tproxy: Flags [R], seq 3491031381, win 0, length 0
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[2:43] <rikkib> Googlebot crawling my camera on port 8081
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[2:47] <Coburn> if anyone's using zoneminder
[2:47] <Coburn> what cameras do you use with it?
[2:47] <Coburn> usb surviance ones?
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[2:53] <cndiv> Hey #raspberrypi channel! I'm using omxplayer to play videos in wheezy at the command line, and videos aren't completely full-screen, I can still see bits of the CLI on the top and bottom. How do I fix this/
[2:53] <cndiv> ?
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[2:54] <Triffid_Hunter> cndiv: clear && omxplayer blah.avi &>/dev/null should give black bars
[2:54] <shiftplusone> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3//viewtopic.php?f=35&t=9789
[2:54] <cndiv> good idea Triffid_Hunter let me try that...
[2:56] <cndiv> Triffid_Hunter Thanks! that works!
[2:56] <cndiv> also thanks shiftplusone !
[2:57] <shiftplusone> np
[2:57] <Triffid_Hunter> cndiv: now make it a shell script :)
[2:58] <[Ex0r]> be back in 2 hours and 15 mins :(
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[3:02] <pksato> I know other two tricks to get a "black" screen to omxplayer.
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[3:03] <pksato> chvt 10; omxplayer etc; chvt 1
[3:04] <pksato> setterm -blank force; omxplayer etc; setterm -blank poke
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[3:05] <cndiv> shiftplusone I followed the instructions on the link you sent me, and the cp play.sh /usr/bin??? line produced the error "chmod: changes permissions of '/usr/bin/play.sh' : Operation not permitted
[3:05] <cndiv> am I missing something?
[3:06] <shiftplusone> maybe a sudo
[3:07] <cndiv> shiftplusone that actually was with sudo. otherwise it says cp: cannot create regular file???. Permission denied
[3:07] <cndiv> I like this script though maybe someone else has written a similar one
[3:07] <shiftplusone> not sure what's up with that
[3:08] <cndiv> I'll try it again, maybe I did something wrong...
[3:08] <shiftplusone> try 'su -' and the just cp the file without sudo and 'exit'
[3:08] <shiftplusone> ah wait nvrm, there's no root password set
[3:08] <shiftplusone> so sudo su -
[3:09] <shiftplusone> but I am not sure why that would work if plain sudo doesn't.
[3:09] <cndiv> I'll sudo to root and see if that makes a difference?
[3:09] <shiftplusone> so it probably won't =)
[3:09] <shiftplusone> Maybe someone who knows more than me will jump in.
[3:10] <cndiv> shiftplusone I figure this is a really common use of the pi
[3:10] <cndiv> I just found out about omxplayer and it made my day :-)
[3:10] <Triffid_Hunter> sudo su - works fine
[3:11] <cndiv> Triffid_Hunter, you mean the command works correctly when you do it from root?
[3:11] <Triffid_Hunter> cndiv: I mean sudo su - gives you a root shell without a root password set
[3:11] <shiftplusone> sudo su - works fine, I am just saying that the cp command might not work... but I have no idea why it fails in the first place.
[3:12] <dr_willis> sudo su - is a little redundant... sudo -s or sudo -i may be saner. ;-)
[3:13] <Triffid_Hunter> can't change permission usually means the file copied successfully but it can't give it the same permissions as the original for some reason.. in my experience generally because the underlying filesystem doesn't support them (eg FAT mounts)
[3:13] <shiftplusone> yeah, I was trying to recall the flag, but couldn't bother googling, heh
[3:13] <Triffid_Hunter> I sure hope your /usr/bin isn't on a fat filesystem though!
[3:14] <dr_willis> ;) vfat bin...
[3:14] <nico_> is the blue port on the Pi an audio jack?
[3:14] <dr_willis> theres a stero out yes.
[3:14] <dr_willis> next to the rca out
[3:15] <shiftplusone> yes, but it's not always blue
[3:15] <dr_willis> dudent think mine was blue
[3:15] <shiftplusone> it's purple when you're not looking
[3:15] <shiftplusone> (no, I think there's a difference between uk and china ones as well as the 256 and 512 models)
[3:16] <shiftplusone> The audio jack on my rpis is black for example
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[3:20] <shiftplusone> Aha.... I was right http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=24264
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[3:22] <nico_> I've got the UK 512 model
[3:23] <nico_> Alright thanks, sorry if I sound dumb, Im only ok with computers and I use Mint so nothing too fancy
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[3:24] <shiftplusone> Heh, a little insecure? That was a perfectly reasonable question.
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[3:28] <nico_> shiftplusone: maybe.
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[3:32] <nico_> Yay! its working finally!
[3:32] <pronto> woot!
[3:33] <nico_> Would I use YUM .tar.gz or .rpm to install things?
[3:33] <shiftplusone> What OS are you using?
[3:34] <shiftplusone> Raspbian or Fedora?
[3:34] <nico_> RaspberryPiBot:
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[3:34] <nico_> i mean raspbian
[3:35] <shiftplusone> It's debian based
[3:35] <shiftplusone> so apt-get
[3:35] <nico_> i was going to use fedora but people were saying not too
[3:35] <shiftplusone> (same as Mint)
[3:35] <nico_> alright i was installling flash and I wasn't sure since its arm if I needed something different
[3:35] <shiftplusone> oh... no
[3:35] <shiftplusone> no flash
[3:36] <shiftplusone> forget flash
[3:36] <nico_> so no youtube?
[3:36] <shiftplusone> if you want youtube, there are ways to make it work, usually by downloading the video....
[3:36] <nico_> oh yay.
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[3:36] <nico_> i'm gonna need a bigger sd card
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[3:37] <Torikun> yo
[3:38] <shiftplusone> I don't know what the youtube options are though, there's youtube-dl or something along those lines. There's also a youtube XBMC plugin as well.
[3:38] <Torikun> i used to use youtube-dl and extract the music in a perl script
[3:38] <Torikun> made getting video mp3 easy
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[3:38] <nico_> Ya I used youtube-dl on this computer so Ill just use that
[3:39] <Torikun> anyone haveing issue rebooting and having their pi not come back?
[3:39] <shiftplusone> So YOU're the reason youtube is blocking videos containing music in them D=
[3:39] <Torikun> lol
[3:39] <Torikun> I made it for my girl who only used it a few times lol
[3:39] <Torikun> what a waste of dev time
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[3:40] <nico_> Torikun you invented youtube-dl
[3:40] <Torikun> no
[3:40] <Torikun> i wrote a perl script that uses it to get the video then extract mp3
[3:40] <shiftplusone> Torikun, have you tried to check why it's not coming back by looking at what's happening over serial?
[3:40] <nico_> oh. I wrote a perl script that doesnt work
[3:40] <Torikun> no
[3:40] <nico_> it wasn't even perl
[3:40] <Torikun> lol
[3:40] <nico_> it was just smashing my hands on the keyboard
[3:41] <nico_> I cant into programming
[3:41] <Torikun> inewagrl/igwevilnbrinlrbnrb
[3:41] <Torikun> lo
[3:41] <Torikun> shiftplusone: this pi is not overclocked
[3:42] <nico_> what are the cons of overclocking?
[3:42] <Torikun> filesystem corruption nico_
[3:42] <shiftplusone> I don't think overclocking would have been the issue
[3:42] <shiftplusone> nico_, and general stability if you do it wrong
[3:42] <nico_> Torikun: i can live with that
[3:42] <shiftplusone> I have been running at 1GHz without any issue
[3:42] <shiftplusone> s
[3:42] <Torikun> nico_: its annoying reflashing daily or every few hours lol
[3:42] <shiftplusone> and so have many other people
[3:42] <Torikun> some pi's I hear have issues overclocked
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[3:43] <Torikun> sucks to be scared to reboot it
[3:43] <Torikun> I will try using init 6 rather than reboot for a clean shutdown
[3:43] <Torikun> made bash alias
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[3:44] <nico_> well fuck it im using turbo
[3:44] <Torikun> lol
[3:45] <nico_> !info ReggieUK
[3:45] <ReggieUK> ?
[3:45] <shiftplusone> bad idea to ping a mod after swearing
[3:45] <Torikun> lol
[3:46] <petersaints> shiftplusone: I've been testing my new Pi in Turbo mode. No problems so far.
[3:46] <Torikun> "Hey police, look what I did"
[3:46] <ReggieUK> especially as they're being nice and talking to you in pm
[3:46] <ReggieUK> and not kb'ing
[3:46] <Torikun> lol
[3:46] <shiftplusone> ah
[3:46] * shiftplusone stops pondering whether to kick or pm
[3:47] <ReggieUK> I've dealt with it
[3:47] <Torikun> Freedom of speech is lost in this room =)
[3:47] <ReggieUK> freedom of speech got left at the door :)
[3:47] <Torikun> lol
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[3:50] * Torikun will go postal if one more corruption issue occurs
[3:50] <shiftplusone> I am guessing that doesn't mean you'll go mail something
[3:50] <Torikun> lolnope
[3:50] <Torikun> Postal is a phrase from when a post office man went crazy and killed a lot of people where he worked cause he was fired or something
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[3:51] <Torikun> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_postal
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[3:54] <nico_> this is weird im not getting any ads
[3:54] <nico_> i cant complain though
[3:55] <shiftplusone> I find the internet annoying without adblock plus. I am not sure why people tolerate it.
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[3:57] <nico_> shiftplusone: every computer i use I install adblock plus
[3:57] <nico_> even if people tell me not too
[3:57] <shiftplusone> So what's this about not getting any ads being weird?
[3:58] <nico_> all places where ads normally are its just says Failure
[3:58] <nico_> I dont have adblock plus installed on the pi
[3:58] <nico_> im not using chrome or firefox
[3:58] <shiftplusone> ah right >_<
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[4:00] <Torikun> Corruption happened
[4:00] <Torikun> again!
[4:00] <dr_willis> could be the adserver is down
[4:00] <dr_willis> ;)
[4:00] <Torikun> always causing sd card to not boot
[4:00] <Torikun> so I should only use SD card for /boot I guess and nothing else lol
[4:01] <shiftplusone> Have you tried different SD cards? Since that happens and you also can't reboot properly every time, you should be able to get your pi replaced.
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[4:02] <Torikun> this one was deemed good , given to me by TAFB
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[4:02] <Torikun> but you maybe right
[4:02] <shiftplusone> The pi or the sdcard?
[4:02] <Torikun> since the usb stick never gets affected
[4:02] <Torikun> SD
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[4:02] <shiftplusone> Psh, you trust everything TAFB tells you? =p
[4:03] <dr_willis> The cake is a lie!
[4:03] <dr_willis> ;)
[4:03] <Torikun> kik
[4:03] <Torikun> lol
[4:03] <dr_willis> I did have an openelec SD card seem to get CUrrupted.. or somthing.. its failing to boot now.. havent looked into what happened to it.
[4:03] <Torikun> I mounted teh sd card then got bus ertror
[4:03] <dr_willis> it was on the wifes pi.
[4:03] <Torikun> shoot
[4:03] <Torikun> I will have to reboot now
[4:03] <Torikun> lol
[4:04] <Torikun> tar: /root/boot.tar: Cannot write: Read-only file system
[4:04] <Torikun> [root@rusher boot]# dmesg
[4:04] <Torikun> Bus error
[4:04] <Torikun> =(
[4:05] <shiftplusone> Torikun, there are a few threads on the forum where people are asking for info about sdcard corruption. There's one by dom and another by another guy. You can use your bad luck for science. I mean helping them resolve the sd card corruption issues.
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[4:12] <petersaints> a program written in Scala that I've written to programming course. Takes 163.03 seconds in the Raspberry Pi vs 8.91 seconds on my laptop (720QM CPU). So, at least for this particular case, the Raspberry Pi is 18.30 times slower than my laptop that is already 2.5+ years old :P
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[4:17] <dr_willis> or scala is not as optmized on the pi and the pi is actually 1000x faster then your laptop. ;)
[4:17] <dr_willis> of course the pi is using how many Watts of power per giggaflop? ;)
[4:18] <nico_> Now i just need to figure out what to do with my pi
[4:18] <dr_willis> mine does a find job as a ZNC servr
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[4:19] <dr_willis> i would like to find a more dumbed down media player/center for it.. the 4 yr old cant quite handle XBMC
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[4:21] <prjkt> hi guys
[4:21] <pronto> hi
[4:23] <nico_> hi
[4:24] <petersaints> dr_willis: true. Scala uses JVM. I'm actually using the Java 8 beta that has the Hotspot JIT compiler. Because with the OpenJDK is a lot slower.
[4:25] <petersaints> dr_willis: LXDE with shortcuts for a few videos... it can't be simples than that! I guess :P
[4:27] <dr_willis> petersaints: got a media player box the other day.. it has a 'auto play this directory feature' ;) thats simple...
[4:27] <dr_willis> he just has to turn it on in the morning - instant micky mouse clubhouse.
[4:27] <dr_willis> But ie Can handle the netflix-kids interface.
[4:27] <dr_willis> he can.
[4:28] <dr_willis> so i just need a big thumbnail preview of all his videos and a simple select/play and keep playing the next in line. type interface
[4:28] <dr_willis> I guess i could just make a big scrit that runs omxplayer on powerup
[4:28] <dr_willis> BBL
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[5:46] <TAFB> anyone in north america with an iPhone that can check somethin for me?
[5:51] <Gorroth> hi
[5:51] <Gorroth> i got the dropbox java api running under eclipse. now it's time to test it under the raspberry pi
[5:53] <Coburn> ffffff
[5:53] <Coburn> java
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[5:53] <Gorroth> java is fine
[5:53] <Coburn> bloated piece of ....
[5:53] <Gorroth> of fast?
[5:53] <Gorroth> because that's what it is
[5:54] <Coburn> lies
[5:54] <Coburn> it's obsolete
[5:54] <Coburn> trash
[5:54] <Coburn> nightmare to code with
[5:54] <Gorroth> well, that shows how much you use it and know about it
[5:54] <Gorroth> talk to scala people
[5:54] <Coburn> I'd rather use C#
[5:54] <Gorroth> lol, yeah. now you're talking. now you can't even run under linux
[5:55] <Coburn> yeah I can
[5:55] <Coburn> mono
[5:55] <Coburn> Hah
[5:55] <Gorroth> that dead project?
[5:55] <Gorroth> yeah..
[5:55] <Coburn> That was moonlight
[5:55] <Coburn> or was it?
[5:55] <Gorroth> not sure, but i wouldn't trust anything in C# to be production-ready under linux
[5:56] <Coburn> [14:54:22] <Gorroth> well, that shows how much you use it and know about it
[5:56] <Coburn> right back at you?
[5:57] <Gorroth> nope
[5:57] <Gorroth> C# is not prod ready on linux
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[7:06] <Viper-7> agree with the anti-java sentiments
[7:07] <Viper-7> every java developer i know doesnt actually even develop in java anymore
[7:07] <Viper-7> they use scala or such which translate and run on the same vm
[7:07] <Viper-7> even then
[7:07] <Viper-7> give me C, or give me death! :P
[7:07] <SubaruSVX> lol
[7:09] <Viper-7> (this coming from a guy whos held jobs in VB6 and coldfusion, and thinks spin is a nice language)
[7:09] <Viper-7> so grain of salt required ;)
[7:13] <SubaruSVX> VB
[7:13] <SubaruSVX> is best programing language
[7:13] <Viper-7> lol
[7:13] <SubaruSVX> only pros use it
[7:13] <Viper-7> instr() and mid()
[7:13] <Viper-7> heck ill take strtok() over those :P
[7:14] <Viper-7> dim x,y as integer -- x is declared as variant
[7:14] <Viper-7> i could go on and on :P
[7:14] <SubaruSVX> lol
[7:14] * SubaruSVX is glad his sarcasm wasnt lost
[7:14] <Viper-7> the worst was eVB
[7:15] <Viper-7> VB for PDAs
[7:15] <SubaruSVX> lol
[7:15] <SubaruSVX> PDA's
[7:15] <SubaruSVX> i remember those
[7:15] <Viper-7> we made a form app, but a single app couldnt have more than one form
[7:15] <SubaruSVX> palm pilots ftw
[7:15] <Viper-7> so you had to make the form like 4x the screen width, and 3x the screen height
[7:15] <Viper-7> and pan it around as the user changed tabs
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[7:16] <SubaruSVX> lol
[7:16] <SubaruSVX> sounds great
[7:16] <Viper-7> people think developing apps in html/css/js is awkward :S
[7:16] <TAFB> Pi powered stream is now doing video AND audio (audio mux'd courtesy of ffmpeg!) http://tafb02.click2stream.com
[7:17] <SubaruSVX> inb4virus
[7:17] <Viper-7> TAFB: nice
[7:18] <TAFB> thx :)
[7:18] <Viper-7> sync seems good too
[7:18] <TAFB> was a pain in the butt getting the audio to work on both iPhone and Android!!! so picky about codec and bitrate :(
[7:18] <TAFB> I think the sync is 0.1 seconds off (I read that when muxing to RTSP stream it adds 0.1 sec delay), but I haven't compensated for it in ffmpeg yet
[7:19] <Viper-7> haha yeah
[7:19] <Viper-7> and yeah its not quite perfect
[7:19] <Viper-7> but close
[7:19] <Viper-7> better than most stuff on twitch lol
[7:19] <TAFB> I have a video file for testing a/v sync, I might run it on it later and get er dialed in :)
[7:19] <Viper-7> usb cam?
[7:19] <TAFB> $132 ip camera
[7:19] <Viper-7> ahh nice
[7:19] * Viper-7 wants pi cams already
[7:20] <TAFB> has audio in, but crappy audio encoder (8bit, 8000hz mono) :(
[7:20] <TAFB> do you think you can switch the Pi's analog audio OUT to audio IN? :)
[7:20] <Viper-7> no
[7:21] <TAFB> bummer. would probably be a bitch getting the a/v sync consistant doing it that way anyway ;)
[7:21] <Viper-7> PCM_DIN is exposed on the gpio header tho
[7:21] <Viper-7> 21 on rev1, 27 on rev2
[7:21] <Viper-7> alt0
[7:21] <TAFB> hmmm. interesting :)
[7:22] <SubaruSVX> dem canadians
[7:23] <TAFB> we luv our curling almost as much as our hockey! :)
[7:23] <TAFB> the IP camera is this one: http://www.kl-security.com/products/network_cameras/720P-WDR-HD-Camera/86.html
[7:23] <TAFB> impossible to beat it for quality, streaming options, nice lens, etc.
[7:23] <Gorroth> success. dropbox is running on the raspberry pi
[7:23] <Gorroth> at least my app that uses the API is
[7:24] <TAFB> Gorroth: congrats! :)
[7:24] <SubaruSVX> i dont understand it
[7:24] <Gorroth> thanks :)
[7:24] <Viper-7> TAFB: had a look at the A13-OLinuXino ?
[7:25] <TAFB> Nope, i got my heart set on http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G135341370451&tab_idx=1
[7:25] <Viper-7> heh
[7:26] <Viper-7> lack of GPIOs :<
[7:26] <Viper-7> again not a hacker device
[7:26] <Viper-7> just a shot at cheap single board computing
[7:26] <TAFB> for $15 you can get add on board with 28 gpio :)
[7:27] <SubaruSVX> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pwnpi/
[7:27] <SubaruSVX> that's pretty cool
[7:27] <TAFB> I will need GPIO because it will be powered by solar power, and will need GPIO to measure current draw, voltages, etc.
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[8:04] <Eartaker> TAFB: that board is awesome
[8:05] <Eartaker> little steep on price =/
[8:08] <SubaruSVX> how expensive are they Eartaker?
[8:09] <Eartaker> $85 it says
[8:10] <Eartaker> $89 i mean
[8:10] <Eartaker> but check this out...
[8:10] <Eartaker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kgL2ylXelU
[8:12] <Eartaker> it will run jellybean
[8:12] <Viper-7> TAFB: you dont _need_ gpio for that
[8:13] <Viper-7> just use a simple uc with usb, better to isolate things anyway
[8:13] <Viper-7> whereas you can toggle the raspberry pi gpio pin output levels at over 100MHz
[8:13] <Viper-7> compared to a few hundred at most kHz with an IO expander
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[8:15] <SubaruSVX> very cool
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[8:20] <aDro> Anyone have a tutorial for creating a reset or power switch using the GPIO?
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[8:26] <rikkib> The rev 2 has reset pins. Not populated.
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[8:30] <aDro> Populated?
[8:31] <aDro> oh
[8:31] <aDro> I thik I see
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[8:37] <n13z> howdy
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[8:40] <Gorroth> if you wanna do dropbox app stuff on the raspberyy pi (or some other system), check out my example code: https://github.com/grimwm/dropbox-java-sdk-example
[8:41] <aDro> I am going to need a new soldering iron :(
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[9:33] <aDro> I have a bunch of left over cable sleeving, I am trying to figure out what to do with it
[9:34] <Viper-7> stick it in the drawer
[9:34] <Viper-7> uses will come :P
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[9:36] <aDro> They have been in the drawer all this time
[9:37] <aDro> I took it out and I sleeved 4 cathodes, a 4 pin molex extender, and some other stupid cables.
[9:37] <aDro> trying to find more uses
[9:38] <Viper-7> do what i did ;)
[9:38] <Viper-7> ghetto modular psu
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[9:39] <aDro> lnik?
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[9:40] <Viper7> cut all the cables except for ATX at the PSU, then mount molex connectors on the PSU facing into the case
[9:40] <Viper7> then just use extenders for everything, cut to the right length, sleeved of course ;)
[9:41] <aDro> neat idea
[9:42] <aDro> My PSU is already modular ;)
[9:42] <Viper7> hehe
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[11:27] <djibb> Hi all :) I want to try this cam : http://www.ptgreystore.com/products/95-firefly-mv-03-mp-mono-usb-20.aspx on raspberry. Donwloads page provides an "arm build". So I've untarred it, install it and launch it. So in fact, I a a library issue: can't fin shared object) When I recompile it (ther're sources), all works well but same error occured.
[11:28] <djibb> here is the cpp : http://paste.gnoulibre.org/249 and the make file : http://paste.gnoulibre.org/250 all compilation pass well, but I don't understand why it can't find libraries
[11:29] <mrmoney2012> morning all - has any work been done on the 3.5mm audio output thing, couple of months back i couldn't get good audio - was all snap crackle and pop - better now ?
[11:29] <mrmoney2012> otherwise i use USB sound card...
[11:30] <pronto> i was able to use it just fine
[11:30] <pronto> the 3.5 out
[11:30] <mjr> It's inherently not very good quality. "Snap crackle and pop" sounds worse than it is though, but perhaps you're exaggarating.
[11:31] <mjr> I'm not sure if it's been worked on (or indeed if it can be made any better in software anymore)
[11:31] <mrmoney2012> hmmm...
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[11:32] <mrmoney2012> ok i will try with an updated distro
[11:32] <mrmoney2012> etc/modules reads --- # snd-bcm2835
[11:32] <mrmoney2012> will unlash and reboot and give a spin
[11:32] <aDro> djibb: Pi rcognise the cam?
[11:35] <mrmoney2012> seems a right faff using usb audio when the pi has it onboard
[11:35] <djibb> aDro : it's not a standard cam. It comes with it's own library and works well on my Linux PC. (with running its proper softs). When tring them (build for arm ) on Pi, I can't launch them -> library issue. Yes, the cam appear in dmesg
[11:36] <aDro> :(
[11:37] <aDro> So you can't get it to work at all, or you can't get the custom library to load?
[11:37] <djibb> this cam is magnifique...works without an extrernal power...w&B, very sensitive... grrr...
[11:37] <djibb> I can't get the custom library to load
[11:37] <djibb> So nothing works :)
[11:38] <aDro> :(
[11:38] <djibb> http://paste.gnoulibre.org/251
[11:38] <mjr> mrmoney2012, well, what the pi has onboard is a pwm generator which is being kludged to produce the analog audio. The main and recommended audio output is the HDMI, the analog is a fallback solution.
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[11:39] <mrmoney2012> oh...
[11:39] <mrmoney2012> this pi is headless so hdmi isn't an option
[11:39] <mrmoney2012> might go usb again - it works
[11:40] <mjr> usb is a good option
[11:42] <mrmoney2012> if 3.5mm is never going to give ok sound - whats the point?
[11:43] <aDro> 3.5 is decent sound.
[11:43] <aDro> I am trying a usb sound card now
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[11:45] <mjr> the point is to get legacy audio out of the device if necessary, and cheaply
[11:46] <mjr> the exact same point as for the composite output - that's also rather limited in quality
[11:46] <aDroPi> for youung programmers
[11:47] <double-you> I thought the 3.5mm audio was good, but I couldnt figure out how to change volume
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[11:49] <mjr> Indeed; now if this were a home theater solution, it would be just a waste to include a pwm audio output, but it isn't. The pwm audio is quite good enough for people to get their device to make sounds (quite usefully, even) even if they don't have a modern tv to plug it into.
[11:50] <Gordio> Now exist patch to mplayer for RPi acceleration use?
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[11:52] <aDro> usb sound card works fine
[11:53] <aDro> great even
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[11:57] <linuxstb> Gordio: Someone wrote such a patch months ago (as part of experiments to get software MPEG-2 decoding working). I never saw it published though.
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[12:00] <linuxstb> Gordio: It didn't use hardware decoding, just hardware rendering (converting the decoded YUV frames to RGB and scaling to full-screen). But from what I remember, the author said it was good enough for a lot of the older formats.
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[12:01] <Gordio> linuxstb, you use mplayer?
[12:02] <linuxstb> Not on the Pi, no.
[12:02] <Gordio> hardware rendering better then (I have) software rendering to fbdev ;)
[12:03] <linuxstb> You could look in the old MPEG-2 decoding thread in the Pi forums (Power Users forum I think).
[12:03] <linuxstb> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=5641
[12:04] <linuxstb> Perhaps PM'ing the person who worked on mplayer could persuade him to release something, if he hasn't already. (my memory is vague)
[12:05] <Macer> wow... mpeg2
[12:05] <Macer> blast from the past
[12:05] <Macer> heh
[12:06] <linuxstb> Not if you want to watch digital TV, it's very much a current standard.
[12:06] <Macer> really?
[12:06] <Macer> digital tv doesn't use h264?
[12:06] <SubaruSVX> ^
[12:06] <linuxstb> Sometimes, but I would guess that MPEG-2 is more common worldwide.
[12:07] <Macer> i would disagree heh
[12:07] <Macer> i thought h264 was the digital tv standard
[12:07] <linuxstb> In Europe for example, most SD channels are MPEG-2, with HD being h264.
[12:07] <linuxstb> And I thought HD in the US meant MPEG-2?
[12:07] <Macer> hm
[12:08] <linuxstb> Countries which have switched to digital more recently have been able to use H264 for both SD and HD.
[12:09] <Macer> oh wow
[12:09] <Macer> i guess some places do use h262 for digital tv heh
[12:09] <Macer> how odd... i wonder why that would be the better option
[12:09] <Macer> easier to transcode?
[12:10] <linuxstb> It's simply because at the time digital TV was introduced, h264 didn't exist. So there are millions of TVs and set-top boxes in use which can only handle MPEG-2.
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[12:13] <SubaruSVX> nice!
[12:13] <SubaruSVX> 1080p streaming
[12:13] <SubaruSVX> is almost perfect
[12:13] <SubaruSVX> with raspbmc
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[12:28] <Davespice> crikey my oa skills are lacking, two bots are just handing my **** to me
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[12:30] <pecorade> Hi.
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[12:37] <gordonDrogon> "oa" ?
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[12:38] <Davespice> open arena
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[12:39] <Davespice> just trying to get some practise in
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[12:42] <Davespice> I'm fighting a bot that looks like shelob
[12:42] <gordonDrogon> Ah.
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[12:43] <Davespice> its really good at predicting how I'm going to move and firing a rocket so that it'll collide with me
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[12:44] <tomw889> Hello?
[12:44] <Davespice> hi
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[12:45] <tomw889> anything interesting happening here?
[12:45] <des2> Yes but we can't tell you
[12:45] <tomw889> haha i see, why now?
[12:45] <tomw889> not*
[12:46] <osfameron> because we'd have to kill you
[12:46] <osfameron> so it's for your own benefit really
[12:46] <tomw889> haha okay cool
[12:46] <tomw889> done anything cool with your pi?
[12:46] <osfameron> consider it the #raspberrypi promise: no visitor unnecessarily killed
[12:47] * osfameron hasn't quite managed to boot his yet...
[12:47] <tomw889> oh haha why not!?!?
[12:47] <osfameron> it's probably the SD card I used
[12:47] <tomw889> are you on a linux box?
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[12:47] <osfameron> I've borrowed a class 10 one now, and was trying to flash the disk last week, but it took forever
[12:47] <osfameron> I'll try again on Monday I think
[12:48] <osfameron> yeah, mostly linux
[12:48] <tomw889> mostly linux? please explain lol
[12:48] <osfameron> well, I've transitioned away from mac to linux (but I'm currently on mac, as my thinkpad is in office)
[12:48] <tomw889> what distro are you trying to write to the card?
[12:48] <tomw889> i see
[12:48] <osfameron> I was writing the adafruit distro
[12:48] <tomw889> do mac's have DD?
[12:48] <osfameron> which is a modified raspbian
[12:48] <azk> yes
[12:49] <osfameron> yeah, pretty sure they do
[12:49] <tomw889> yes
[12:49] <osfameron> but this was on my thinkpad
[12:49] <osfameron> I was using image-writer, which is a gui wrapper around dd
[12:49] <azk> I'm dd'ing on a mac right now
[12:49] <osfameron> which meant that it was impossible to find out why it was taking so long
[12:49] <osfameron> it used loads of CPU for 4 hours till I killed it
[12:49] <tomw889> if you've got a mac you might be interested a blog post
[12:50] <tomw889> http://www.administeria.com/raspberry-pi-time-machine-server/
[12:50] <osfameron> I tried strace'ing it and sending it SIGUSR1, but because it wasn't attached to a console it didn't help at all
[12:50] <azk> that's not a bad idea at all
[12:50] <tomw889> i've found that if I forget to bs=4M it just wont boot.. just a reminder
[12:50] * osfameron will just use dd next time...
[12:50] <osfameron> oh, interesting
[12:50] <osfameron> image-writer defaulted to 1M I think
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[12:51] <tomw889> I was using arch a while ago but I'm just so used to debian
[12:51] <osfameron> (I only used it because I've never understood how to use dd, but meh, can't be that hard to cargo cult a command line ;-)
[12:51] <tomw889> dd is actually really easy
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[12:52] <tomw889> sudo dd bs=4M if=/dev/sd<PI> of=~/<PATH TO IMAGE>
[12:52] <tomw889> easy as pi
[12:52] <tomw889> pardon the pun
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[13:01] <KittyPaws> How do I remove the bootup logo?
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[13:01] <tomw889> What the little raspberry at the top?
[13:02] <KittyPaws> tomw889: Yes.
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[13:02] <aDro> But it's a raspberry pi...
[13:02] <KittyPaws> I am trying to make a small as possible linux distro and would like that removed.
[13:02] <tomw889> i'm looking for the dir now
[13:02] <KittyPaws> I remember when a penguin used to be there!
[13:03] <KittyPaws> aDro: Are you sure about that?
[13:03] <KittyPaws> seems like the distro to me.
[13:03] <tomw889> have you ever been on a flight when the entertainment system crashes and one comes up.. one of my first linux memories!
[13:03] <KittyPaws> I remember distros (not for the raspberry pi but for x86 computers) having that penguin in the same place.
[13:03] <aDro> Well, customization is always fun, so if you find it, let me know
[13:04] <aDro> I want to put a flag there.
[13:04] <KittyPaws> tomw889: :D
[13:04] <tomw889> what flag?
[13:04] <KittyPaws> aDro: :3
[13:04] <KittyPaws> a nazi flag
[13:04] <KittyPaws> I just have a ASCII logo at login.
[13:05] <tomw889> Nazi flag? really?
[13:05] <KittyPaws> and no X installed. Removed a large chunk of what was added for the raspberry pi.
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[13:05] <aDro> A flag of some guy doing (//?_?)// _[]__[]_
[13:05] <tomw889> not sure i wanna help you anymore haha
[13:05] <KittyPaws> Because I am working on a project and don't want things I don't need.
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[13:05] <KittyPaws> tomw889: No I don't want a nazi flag.
[13:05] <KittyPaws> Infact I want rid of that raspberry
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[13:06] <tomw889> okay good lol
[13:06] <KittyPaws> I googled but found nothing :(
[13:06] <tomw889> it's complicated.. you'll need the sources
[13:06] <tomw889> http://www.vxbus.com/software/linux/165-how-to-change-the-linux-penguin-boot-logo.html
[13:06] <tomw889> basically you just want to remove the image..
[13:06] <djazz> KittyPaws: howto remove it: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=11642
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[13:07] <KittyPaws> Does that site have something to do with vxworks?
[13:07] <tomw889> so replace it with nothing
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[13:07] <djazz> your google-fu needs practice
[13:07] <tomw889> i'm not sure
[13:07] <KittyPaws> The software ran on Asimo the robot by honda?
[13:07] <KittyPaws> djazz: I probs didn't use the right search terms and I apologise.
[13:07] <djazz> to change it you must recompile kernel
[13:07] <KittyPaws> WHAT?!
[13:07] <djazz> i guess
[13:07] <KittyPaws> oh bloody hell
[13:08] <tomw889> yes it's much more complicated than I thought..
[13:08] <djazz> KittyPaws: my search terms: "raspberry pi boot image remove"
[13:08] <djazz> :D
[13:08] <tomw889> it's been compiled.. sitting there as machine code
[13:08] <tomw889> What distro!?!?!
[13:09] <tomw889> broaden your search to linux boot image change
[13:09] <KittyPaws> djazz: Similar to mine.
[13:09] <KittyPaws> raspberry pi boot logo remove
[13:10] <djazz> yea i get same result with logo instead of image
[13:10] <djazz> that thread on top
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[13:11] <KittyPaws> weird lol
[13:11] <KittyPaws> I use the swedish google even tho I'm not swedish.
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[13:11] <KittyPaws> Well doing what that thread said didn't even hide the logo. :/
[13:12] <djazz> KittyPaws: shortly after boot starts i made it play a Mp4 file, instead of seeing the boot text :)
[13:12] <djazz> aw
[13:12] <KittyPaws> :o
[13:12] <tomw889> ha can you speak swedish?
[13:12] <djazz> yes
[13:12] <djazz> ;P
[13:12] <KittyPaws> no
[13:12] <KittyPaws> but my internet is swedish
[13:12] <tomw889> so why use .se?
[13:12] <tomw889> oh i see
[13:12] <djazz> im swedish
[13:12] <KittyPaws> so I get silly redirects to .se sites
[13:12] <KittyPaws> :/
[13:13] <Megaf> Good morning folks, how are you today?
[13:13] <tomw889> good and you?
[13:13] <aDro> Glad!
[13:13] <aDro> I found out my rev 2 board has a spot for 2 pin headers to allow a reset button
[13:13] <aDro> neat
[13:13] <Megaf> Im good too :)
[13:14] <Megaf> Im think about a new project for my rpi
[13:14] <KittyPaws> Yayyy!
[13:14] <djazz> my brand new rpi has a broken led :/
[13:14] <djazz> http://i.imgur.com/fjHh36s.jpg
[13:14] <KittyPaws> Mine is part of a radio project
[13:14] <djazz> 100M
[13:14] <KittyPaws> just waiting for an old CRT TV to arrive
[13:14] <KittyPaws> cause it was free
[13:14] <tomw889> oh noo
[13:14] <KittyPaws> put it on top of the radio rack
[13:14] <gordonDrogon> I have a not sol old CRT TV.
[13:14] <djazz> the led worked, and broke the day after
[13:14] <KittyPaws> and plug in everything
[13:15] <KittyPaws> djazz: awww :(
[13:15] <aDro> KittyPaws: Haha
[13:15] <gordonDrogon> it's a big 36" sony flatscreen thing. Takes 2 people to lift.
[13:15] <KittyPaws> aDro: ?
[13:15] <KittyPaws> What's soo funny?!
[13:15] <aDro> I am getting a free CRT tv too
[13:15] <KittyPaws> old screens are good for projects!
[13:15] <aDro> Just neat
[13:15] <aDro> I mean
[13:15] <aDro> I want to see the output qaulity
[13:16] <djazz> i have many rpi's :D http://i.imgur.com/jxDn0wb.jpg
[13:16] <KittyPaws> lol
[13:16] <aDro> And if I can, hook up an emulator
[13:16] <KittyPaws> :o
[13:16] <aDro> I want more
[13:16] <aDro> I want like a 100 of them
[13:16] <KittyPaws> well my project doesn't need video quality.
[13:16] <aDro> I have the same 8b sd card!
[13:16] <KittyPaws> and it doesn't need X
[13:17] <djazz> aDro: like this? 64 of them http://www.southampton.ac.uk/~sjc/raspberrypi/
[13:17] <aDro> haha yeah
[13:17] <KittyPaws> djazz: I live north from there
[13:17] <KittyPaws> :o
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> I have an old Dell 17" VGA monitor that I'll probably dump soon. I just can't give it away.
[13:18] <tomw889> has anyone burnt an SD card out? I've been hearing that they have a limited read/write life span
[13:18] <tomw889> ??
[13:18] <aDro> http://imgur.com/a/UsBxE
[13:18] <KittyPaws> gordonDrogon: Whyy can't you give it away?!
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[13:18] <KittyPaws> Whyy would you rather dump it?!
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> tomw889, not in 8 months of using them on Pi's, no...
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> KittyPaws, no-one wants it.
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[13:19] <aDro> You can plug your Rpi into a HDMI to VGA adapter and then plug it into the VGA input for your monitor.
[13:19] <KittyPaws> I know of a building full of 24/7 running Windows 95 computers all drip feeding programs to robots.
[13:19] <aDro> You probably use the DVI slot for your desktop
[13:19] <KittyPaws> and the screens are TINY!
[13:19] <aDro> And then jsut use the source button to switch back and forth.
[13:19] <tomw889> great, I'm running mine as a server for the house so it's on all the time.. going strong!
[13:19] <KittyPaws> one of them is damaged and the display is green lol
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> aDro, sure. but that costs money and it's a tube, so takes up space...
[13:19] <KittyPaws> and they're covered in oil and stuff :/
[13:19] <aDro> gordonDrogon: What's a tube?
[13:20] <djazz> i want a tiny-battery-powered screen for my pi :/
[13:20] <gordonDrogon> aDro, Cathode Ray Tube. Look it up....
[13:20] <KittyPaws> aDro: Vaccuum tube
[13:20] <djazz> CRT
[13:20] <KittyPaws> the cathode ray tube inside
[13:20] <aDro> For the free CRt monitor
[13:20] <KittyPaws> they're MASSIVE
[13:20] <KittyPaws> when you remove one
[13:20] <aDro> I am talkin g about my desktop monitor
[13:20] <aDro> LCD with DVI and VGA output
[13:20] <aDro> Input*
[13:21] <gordonDrogon> aDro, imagine a 17" monitor that was the size of a 19" LCD one (4:3) and just as deep...
[13:21] <gordonDrogon> ie. not flat.
[13:21] <aDro> yeah, that's a crt.
[13:21] <KittyPaws> Well I hope the one coming isn't a wide screen and is tiny.
[13:21] <aDro> what are we talking about?
[13:21] <KittyPaws> I have a CRT TV
[13:21] <KittyPaws> well did have
[13:21] <KittyPaws> get it as a kid in the 90s
[13:22] <KittyPaws> constantly was in use
[13:22] <gordonDrogon> I still do. it's our main TV. (only TV)
[13:22] <KittyPaws> didn't break at all
[13:22] <KittyPaws> Bought it from curries
[13:22] <KittyPaws> it'd probs still work now if didn't get shut.
[13:22] <gordonDrogon> we.. I have 2 brand new Rev 2 Pi's that I was hoping to sell next weekend, but the event has been cancelled.
[13:23] <KittyPaws> gordonDrogon: I'd buy em
[13:23] <KittyPaws> but only for the price they're worth.
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[13:23] <gordonDrogon> KittyPaws, I'll sell them to you for the price I paid plus postage..
[13:24] <gordonDrogon> they're bog-standard farnell ones - cheaper to buy direct from them (free postage)
[13:24] <KittyPaws> My raspi is from element 14
[13:25] <gordonDrogon> e14/farnell/ same people.
[13:25] <KittyPaws> oh rite
[13:25] <KittyPaws> gordonDrogon: Do they have cases on them?
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[13:27] <aDro> What about a TFT Serial display?
[13:27] <KittyPaws> aDro: TFT is LCD
[13:27] <aDro> what does tft mean then?
[13:27] <mrmoney2012> popping when i do cat /dev/urandom | aplay -D hw:0,0
[13:27] <mrmoney2012> at the start end end of the playback
[13:27] <aDro> Thin film transistor
[13:28] <KittyPaws> Yes
[13:28] <mrmoney2012> any fix for the popping ?
[13:28] <KittyPaws> aDro: It is
[13:29] <gordonDrogon> KittyPaws, no - just bare Pi's.
[13:30] <gordonDrogon> I might keep them though. always handy to have a Rev 2 - my other 3 are rev 1's.
[13:30] <KittyPaws> :D
[13:30] <gordonDrogon> KittyPaws, really easier for you & cheaper to just oder off farnell/e14 (especially of in the UK)
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[13:31] <KittyPaws> :D
[13:31] <gordonDrogon> There is a slim chance the workshow will still run but at my office rather than the place we were doing it - but the people orginising it have not gotten bac kto me - we needed 8 to make it work there, but I can cop with 3-4 in my place.
[13:31] <KittyPaws> I actually ordered from reseller
[13:31] <KittyPaws> but it came in the original packaging.
[13:31] <gordonDrogon> I was plesantly surprised with farnell though - ordered friday afternoon and I got them saturday morning.
[13:32] <KittyPaws> :D
[13:32] <gordonDrogon> KittyPaws, I'd expect that - they'll be buying from Farnell or RS anyway.
[13:32] <KittyPaws> gordonDrogon: That always happens here
[13:32] <KittyPaws> I'll order something...
[13:32] <KittyPaws> it'll come before I know it!
[13:32] <gordonDrogon> you in the UK then?
[13:32] <KittyPaws> Yes
[13:32] <gordonDrogon> I think it's something we've come to expect...
[13:33] <gordonDrogon> sound really terrible in some countires )-::
[13:33] <KittyPaws> :(
[13:33] <gordonDrogon> who did you buy from rather than direct from Farnell?
[13:34] <KittyPaws> I can't remember
[13:34] <djazz> i got my last pi within a day. there are many resellers in sweden.. cheap too
[13:34] <KittyPaws> I think it was Blue Lagoon Electronics
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[13:35] <gordonDrogon> never heard of them!!
[13:35] <gordonDrogon> but it's easy now for people to buy from Rs/Farnell.
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[13:35] <gordonDrogon> especially in bulk.
[13:36] <PredaGR> hello people, the move to the new firmware brought a new kernel but left behind the previous kernel modules, do they need to be kept or can I safely remove them?
[13:36] <gordonDrogon> buy 100+ from Farnell/e14 and the price goes down from 25.40 to 22.34 each..
[13:36] <KittyPaws> My CRT comes this afternoon.
[13:36] <KittyPaws> Daddy is working atm :(
[13:37] <djazz> is there a way to run mumble from CLI? i cant seem to find anything about it, only murmur
[13:37] <KittyPaws> gordonDrogon: YOu can buy hundreds of them for 22.34?!
[13:37] <gordonDrogon> so I could buy 100, sell them for the gound rate and make ?3 per Pi :)
[13:37] <KittyPaws> :o
[13:37] <gordonDrogon> KittyPaws, 22.34 each if I buy 100 at a time.
[13:37] <KittyPaws> ooooooh
[13:37] <gordonDrogon> plus VAT
[13:37] <KittyPaws> right that makes more sense
[13:38] <KittyPaws> I've planned on buying in bulk anyway.
[13:38] <gordonDrogon> So that's something a good online electronics retailler ought to be able to manage, then sell it as a bundle (to add value and profit) with SD card, keyboard, etc.
[13:38] <KittyPaws> oooooh
[13:38] <KittyPaws> I've seen those starter kids!
[13:39] <KittyPaws> *kits
[13:39] <gordonDrogon> sure. things like that.
[13:39] <KittyPaws> but I designed my own starter kit
[13:39] <gordonDrogon> it's a tough market though. you've got to be better than the others... somehow ...
[13:39] <KittyPaws> lol
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[13:40] <KittyPaws> I have a power supply issue.
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[13:40] <gordonDrogon> you and lots of others )-:
[13:40] <KittyPaws> so my Raspi can't take much
[13:40] <KittyPaws> gordonDrogon: Huh?
[13:40] <gordonDrogon> you are not alone. it's a common issue.
[13:40] <KittyPaws> gordonDrogon: I'm not talking about USB output.
[13:40] <KittyPaws> I am talking about the power input.
[13:41] <gordonDrogon> you just need to be lucky to get a good power supply.
[13:41] <KittyPaws> oh
[13:41] <gordonDrogon> or power it off a laptop/pc ...
[13:42] <KittyPaws> My friend wants to hook up a webcam to a raspi and put it in a weather balloon with a parachute and tie it to a thread
[13:42] <KittyPaws> He wants to do recordings in the air
[13:42] <aDro> Use the Go Pro
[13:42] <PredaGR> by the way, an observation from even good switching power supplies, most of them have variable switching frequency and the power conditions change constantly on the raspi especially if you have disks and wireless, a solution is to add some capacitors as extra, helps the response time of the switching frequency
[13:42] <gordonDrogon> there are better solutions - e.g. Go Pro cameras..
[13:43] <KittyPaws> What's that? :o
[13:43] <gordonDrogon> a commercial "robust" little camera with on-board storage.
[13:43] <gordonDrogon> they're very popular with outdoorsy stuff - e.g. kayakers, skydivers, climbers, etc.
[13:44] <KittyPaws> :o
[13:44] <KittyPaws> Well er...
[13:44] <KittyPaws> my step dad is getting pissed off and raging and shouting outside
[13:44] <KittyPaws> the cats have dug their claws into the roof of the shelter again :/
[13:44] <gordonDrogon> I had an evil step mother once.
[13:45] <KittyPaws> gordonDrogon: lol
[13:45] <KittyPaws> Whyy was she evil? :o
[13:45] <discorpia> KittyPaws: dust the roof with pepper
[13:45] <gordonDrogon> she just was. probably still is. an evil and horrible person.
[13:45] <KittyPaws> Me and my dad was laughing about my step dad
[13:45] <KittyPaws> the wheels snapped off the vacuum when it was dropped
[13:45] <gordonDrogon> probably not helpfull.
[13:45] <KittyPaws> so he took some wheels off a suitcase and nailed em onto the vacuum
[13:46] <gordonDrogon> inventive.
[13:46] <KittyPaws> my step dad and mum nearly fell out over the vacuum cleaner
[13:46] <KittyPaws> because he was taking his time putting these wheels onto it lol
[13:46] <KittyPaws> Might as well just buy a new one :/
[13:47] <KittyPaws> gordonDrogon: I'm not bothered
[13:47] <KittyPaws> it's up to him to not use a plastic sheet as a roof
[13:47] <KittyPaws> but there are animals in that shelter and he doesn't want them getting wet
[13:47] <KittyPaws> so he rages
[13:48] <KittyPaws> He's pathetic
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[13:49] <pewpewlaser> anyone have any good tips on what kind of equipment to scavenge 26p ribbon cables from?
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> old PCs. floppy disk drives.
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> they're still too big, but can work OK.
[13:50] <KittyPaws> gordonDrogon: How do you even know what he wants it for?! :o
[13:51] <pewpewlaser> heh, i figure he figured it's for the gpio port, since i'm asking here
[13:51] <gordonDrogon> KittyPaws, this is a raspberry pi forum - so I guess he wants it for a raspberry pi.
[13:51] <pewpewlaser> and he figured right ;)
[13:51] <pewpewlaser> gordonDrogon: thank you, i didn't think about those actually, just thought about ide but they are huge (40p?)
[13:52] <KittyPaws> gordonDrogon: Duh
[13:52] <pewpewlaser> i'll see if i can dig up some floppy ones
[13:52] <KittyPaws> pewpewlaser: FDD cables are a couple pins wider
[13:52] <KittyPaws> make sure you don't have a case on your raspi
[13:53] <KittyPaws> otherwise you will struggle to insert it
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[13:53] <pewpewlaser> aha, it's 34
[13:53] <Armand> rule 34?
[13:53] <Armand> O.o
[13:53] <pewpewlaser> i've already cut a slot in my casing to fit the connector through
[13:54] <pewpewlaser> but it's not in the casing atm, i will try and see if the fdd fit without modifications
[13:54] <KittyPaws> You had to cut into your case so that you can access the GPIO header?!
[13:54] <KittyPaws> I already got access from my case.
[13:54] <KittyPaws> :/
[13:54] <KittyPaws> but again...
[13:54] <tinti_> KittyPaws: may I speak in private about llvmlinux? I dont want to flood the channel
[13:54] <pewpewlaser> is it possible to cut off one side and hotglue it on that side? (i wont remove the connector very often)
[13:55] <KittyPaws> I would have to do some cutting to fit a cable in there
[13:55] <KittyPaws> pewpewlaser: What?
[13:55] <KittyPaws> You could also cut part of your FDD cable off
[13:55] <KittyPaws> to make it a smaller cable
[13:55] <pewpewlaser> KittyPaws: to cut down the side of the fdd connector/ribbon to make it 26p wide
[13:55] <pewpewlaser> i know how the ribbon connectors work, that they have latches on each side so cutting one off will remove the support on one side, but maybe that's glueable
[13:55] <KittyPaws> tinti_: If it's a raspi distro just mention it here.
[13:56] <pewpewlaser> maybe i should just try instead of speculate ;D thanks for the input
[13:56] <KittyPaws> pewpewlaser: You don't need support when it comes to the GPIO header
[13:56] <KittyPaws> the GPIO header doesn't have anything that will hold the cable in it is just pins.
[13:57] <pewpewlaser> Yeah but the side of the connector is what clamps the top to the bottom of the connector, right? That's the part I meant I might need to glue after cutting, so the top doesn't come off
[13:58] <KittyPaws> pewpewlaser: The side of the connector is what holds the cable into the sockets on a computer mobo.
[13:58] <tinti_> KittyPaws: it is not. It is about testing a feature for a RPI kernel build using llvm. I am speaking in private with some people because I think is a bit off topic. If some one want to give a try please contact me. Since not many people has test it I dont want to flood :)
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[13:59] <pewpewlaser> KittyPaws: but the connector itself is made of several parts clamped down together, like in http://bit.ly/10OBC1R .. not the big external latches but the small one on the connector parts pressed together around the cable
[13:59] <KittyPaws> service mpd restart
[13:59] <KittyPaws> woopsies
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[14:00] <KittyPaws> I am clueless as to why this wont play. :/
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[14:01] <Kane> good morning o/
[14:02] <wishi> can somebody tell me how I start xbmc from terminal while I'm on a ssh session on the pi?
[14:03] <Triffid_Hunter> wishi: try DISPLAY=:0.0 xbmc
[14:03] <KittyPaws> brb reboot :/
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[14:04] <_Trullo> wishi, I have autostart on xbmc on reboot so I just restart gdm :)
[14:04] <double-you> anybody using a DWA-130 with r-pi?
[14:04] <double-you> sorry, DWA-160
[14:05] <wishi> _Trullo: I installed raspbmc and xbmc fails to start. I try to find out why
[14:05] <wishi> so my approach was to kill the processes and to try to start xbmc from commandline
[14:06] <wishi> it seems it's nowhere documented how to fire up your xserver with xbmc here
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[14:07] <_Trullo> just check the xbmc.log to see why it fails
[14:07] <wishi> something with no glxinfo all of a sudden
[14:08] <wishi> makes no sense
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[14:11] <gordonDrogon> a floppy cable was the first thing I used on a Pi.
[14:11] <gordonDrogon> wish I'd taken photos back then.
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[14:14] <KittyPaws> heyy :3
[14:14] <KittyPaws> sorry for long wait
[14:14] <KittyPaws> What did I miss? :o
[14:15] <KittyPaws> Yep it was a filesystem error that caused /home to vanish.
[14:15] <KittyPaws> reason why my music wouldn't play
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[14:31] <lgeyer> is there anything else i can do to combat sd card corruption due to overclocking besides initial_turbo?
[14:32] <Armand> Don't overclock?
[14:33] <osfameron> heh
[14:34] <Gordio> linuxstb, thank you, very much! ;)
[14:34] <lgeyer> ...
[14:34] <pewpewlaser> gordonDrogon: i'm calling my hungover friends now to see who has their box-of-junk(tm) most accessible. did the full width of the fdd connector fit without modification?
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[14:39] <pewpewlaser> gordonDrogon: or maybe you didn't use a standard casing when you did it. in my casing there might just be enough room for the remaining header, or else i'll try cutting and gluing
[14:40] <gordonDrogon> pewpewlaser, I didn't have a box when I tried it - just a Pi on the floor.
[14:40] <KittyPaws> lgeyer: Overclocking has never corrupted my SD card but I've heard of things like that happening.
[14:40] <gordonDrogon> I do have a photo - I remember taking one. Let me see if I can find it.
[14:40] <KittyPaws> What you want to do is alter the BIOS code on the SD card (.elf files) so that you can use the SD card as a kick starter and boot your OS from a pendrive.
[14:41] <KittyPaws> Pendrives are a LOT faster than SD cards.
[14:41] <pronto> what's a pendirve?
[14:41] <KittyPaws> ...
[14:41] <KittyPaws> Flash drive?
[14:41] <pronto> oh, usb drives?
[14:41] <KittyPaws> Yes
[14:41] <lgeyer> KittyPaws: it acutally doesn't happen on raspia, where to pi happily runs at 1000/500/500/6, but as soon as i start openelec that card corrupted
[14:41] <KittyPaws> I thought the term "pendrive" was crystal clear.
[14:41] <KittyPaws> :/
[14:41] <pronto> lame, i was thinking acutal pen or something
[14:42] <KittyPaws> lgeyer: I know
[14:42] <pronto> first time i'v ever heard 'pendrive'
[14:42] <KittyPaws> it is a bug in OpenELEC
[14:42] <KittyPaws> It's an xbmc bug
[14:42] <KittyPaws> so it will affect both OpenELEC and Raspbmc
[14:42] <KittyPaws> lgeyer: The only work around is boot from USB drive
[14:42] <KittyPaws> but you will have to do some altering of the BIOS code.
[14:42] <KittyPaws> it's in .elf files on the SD card
[14:43] <KittyPaws> I can't help you tho.
[14:43] <lgeyer> KittyPaws: that's interesting. do you have further information on this? do you coincidentally know if this has been fixed in 2.99.2?
[14:43] <KittyPaws> It hasn't been fixed
[14:43] <KittyPaws> Best option is boot from USB drive
[14:43] <KittyPaws> but I can't help you either
[14:44] <KittyPaws> lgeyer: Plus more space for your OS
[14:45] <KittyPaws> the Raspberry Pi will take a 32gb USB drive.
[14:45] <Kleobis> Could anyone link me to a throughout guide on how to make my Raspberry PI into a media-hub (xbmc I guess?)
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/IMAG0179.jpg
[14:45] <gordonDrogon> in the middle of that is a cable connected to a breadboard that would connect to the Pi.
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[14:46] <lgeyer> KittyPaws: ok, thanks.
[14:46] <Gordio> gordonDrogon, 1 MB >_<
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[14:48] <KittyPaws> lgeyer: Ignore me on the .elf files btw.
[14:48] <KittyPaws> Leave them alone
[14:49] <KittyPaws> /boot/cmdline.txt
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[14:52] <mark_vh> Kleobis: you have windows?
[14:52] <gordonDrogon> Gordio, 1MB what?
[14:52] <Kleobis> Yea.
[14:52] <Kleobis> mark_vh, we are talking about Microsoft Windows, right?
[14:53] <Gordio> gordonDrogon, very big :)
[14:53] <gordonDrogon> Gordio, stull confused. it's just a crappy photo off my phone.
[14:54] <mark_vh> yep. in that case: 1)download image at bottom from http://openelec.thestateofme.com/ 2)unpack image 3)write image to sd card with http://sourceforge.net/projects/win32diskimager/
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[14:55] <mark_vh> see also http://squirrelhosting.co.uk/hosting-blog/hosting-blog-info.php?id=9
[14:56] <mark_vh> i think formatting the card is not needed
[14:56] <lgeyer> there seem to be a bunch of other issues for openelec 2.99.x as well on the pi, interesting
[14:57] <gordonDrogon> the only important bit of that photo is the cut-down floppy cable I was using to connect the Pi to the breadboard.
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[15:07] <gordonDrogon> spot of lunch time,
[15:07] <equivoc> hi
[15:07] <equivoc> I have a problem with my pi, after a while it simply turns off
[15:08] <equivoc> in the meantime I'm using a dedicated power supply
[15:08] <equivoc> i have the same problem with a model A and a model B
[15:09] <equivoc> and both on a raspbian and openelec for RPi
[15:09] <equivoc> any ideas what's wrong?
[15:10] <equivoc> what i realized is, that the GPU is over 92% and at 50 degrees celcius
[15:10] <viric> the trend is to blame the power supply
[15:10] <viric> over 92% of what?
[15:11] <equivoc> 92% of usage
[15:11] <equivoc> in openelec's system info
[15:11] <viric> ah I don't know it. no idea.
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[15:13] <shirish> hi all, can anybody share what sort of HDMI cable I should buy if I'm buying for a raspberry pi to an HDMI capable LCD monitor ?
[15:14] <shirish> Is there something like male to male or male to female kinda thing in HDMI ?
[15:14] <Dyskette> Generally, cables are male, sockets are female (at both ends)
[15:14] <gordonDrogon> 50C is fine. wory about temperature when it reached 75C.
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[15:15] <shirish> Dyskette: ah o.k. so need male cables, thanx.
[15:15] <equivoc> gordonDrogon: both cpu and gpu are @ 48 - 50 degrees right now
[15:15] <Dyskette> shirish: which is pretty much a standard hdmi cable ;)
[15:15] <equivoc> and gone it is again :-(
[15:15] * shirish has no idea about HDMI cables, honestly.
[15:16] <shirish> Dyskette: any particular brands which are good you can share ?
[15:16] <gordonDrogon> equivoc, that's fine. nothing at all to be concerend about.
[15:16] <Dyskette> shirish: fair enough - I just think you'd have a hard time finding a cable that isn't male/male :P
[15:16] <equivoc> gordonDrogon: do you know what else might be a problem?
[15:16] <equivoc> or what else I could check?
[15:16] <Dyskette> shirish: I have no idea on brands or anything, I'm afraid - I don't actually use hdmi myself (old crt telly, y'see)
[15:16] <shirish> Dyskette: I actually was finding the male/female ones more so was confused .
[15:17] <Dyskette> shirish: huh. Well, fair enough
[15:17] <shirish> Dyskette: ah cool. I'm actually doing this in a school , where they have CRT as well.
[15:17] <shirish> Dyskette: am confused about the /boot/config.txt - overscan bit. Can you explain that a little better.
[15:18] <gordonDrogon> equivoc, not sure - I did read something about some new Pi's having a problem where they turn off after 10 minutes though, but I don't recall the details.
[15:18] <Dyskette> shirish: basically, if the image is too big or small relative to the screen size, you set the overscan - positive numbers decrease the screen image size, negative numbers make it bigger
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[15:19] <Dyskette> shirish: it's more or less impossible to know in advance what settings will work for a particular pi/cabling/tv setup
[15:19] <pewpewlaser> gordonDrogon: got disconnected, did you manage to find any photo? :)
[15:19] <Dyskette> shirish: so it's just a matter of booting up and seeing, and spending a few reboots fiddling the numbers to get it right
[15:19] <shirish> Dyskette: it's a model b/component cable/21' CRT
[15:19] <shirish> Dyskette: right.
[15:19] <Dyskette> shirish: it'll depend on the individual pi, cable, and tv as much as the brand/type
[15:20] <gordonDrogon> pewpewlaser, sure - http://unicorn.drogon.net/IMAG0179.jpg
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[15:20] <Dyskette> That said, being a little generous with the overscan doesn't have any negative effect beyond having a bit of a border round the screen image
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[15:22] <pewpewlaser> gordonDrogon: ah, cool setup. what's the breadboard thing in the foreground? an arduino?
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[15:23] <double-you> I dont like seeing so many cables on the table ;)
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[15:23] <shirish> Dyskette: understood, basically trial and error. O.k. will try.
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[15:23] <shirish> Dyskette: right.
[15:24] <dcorona_irc_2020> someone help me to setup my netgear n150 usb wifi adapter with rpi?
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[15:26] <dcorona_irc_2020> I get 'Failed to initiate AP scan' - http://pastebin.com/3k05WTCR
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[15:27] <gordonDrogon> pewpewlaser, yes.
[15:27] <pewpewlaser> gordonDrogon: do you use them together or is it for separate tinkering?
[15:28] <gordonDrogon> pewpewlaser, better picture of breadboard: http://unicorn.drogon.net/piduino.jpg
[15:28] <pewpewlaser> ah sweet, i put a 328 in my duemilanove as well before getting an uno
[15:29] <gordonDrogon> double-you, me neither, but when needs must ... this was an open hack-day type even in Manchester last April
[15:29] <pewpewlaser> aha, cool. organized by whom?
[15:29] <gordonDrogon> I just made up that breadboard to do some testing with a protocol I had to interface arduino to Linux via serial.
[15:29] <pewpewlaser> who*? i never get that right. :/
[15:29] <shirish> does anybody if there is a debdelta mirror up for raspberry ?
[15:29] <gordonDrogon> pewpewlaser, I don't recall.
[15:30] <gordonDrogon> pewpewlaser, I think it might have been @technoteacher
[15:31] <shirish> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=30574
[15:32] <double-you> gordonDrogon: hehe, I'll try to find a case/box where everything fits in it
[15:32] <gordonDrogon> shirish, never had a problem with rsync myself...
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[15:32] <shirish> gordonDrogon: rsync is good, but debdelta is way better.
[15:33] <shirish> gordonDrogon: rsync you could use for syncing daily images or something, debdelta is for doing updates from within the OS itself. Smaller updates.
[15:34] <gordonDrogon> shirish, well, go setup a mirror then...
[15:35] <shirish> gordonDrogon: meh... wish had the resources for it ;)
[15:35] <pronto> http://tasty.bagels.xxx/ raspberry pi webserver still going after 13 hours :D
[15:35] <chris_99> .xxx are you sure that's SFW
[15:36] <pronto> all the content is sfw
[15:36] <discorpia> chris_99: verified it is, but yes, misleading domain :D
[15:36] <chris_99> heh
[15:37] <des2> The PI is naked!
[15:37] <pronto> xD
[15:37] <discorpia> :O
[15:37] * KittyPaws is still waiting for her CRT
[15:37] <KittyPaws> :/
[15:37] <des2> CRT ? It's 2012.
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> 13 hours?
[15:37] <Armand> Is that it?
[15:37] <KittyPaws> des2: It's just a screen I need for a project.
[15:37] <pronto> wait, someone told me it's 2013
[15:37] <KittyPaws> Video quality isn't a concern.
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> pronto, wake me when you get close to: 14:37:35 up 1551 days, 17:43, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[15:37] <Armand> des2, KittyPaws: Crisis Rescue Team ?
[15:37] <KittyPaws> also...
[15:38] <des2> Oh no they changed the year again!
[15:38] <pronto> gordonDrogon: want me when people stop caring about uptime on routers
[15:38] <KittyPaws> It's a free screen
[15:38] <gordonDrogon> pronto, indeed :)
[15:38] <KittyPaws> I was trying to get hold of a free TV screen
[15:38] <KittyPaws> got offered a gray CRT
[15:38] <des2> Sorry pronto's xxx page has 2012 on it
[15:38] * Armand cuts gordonDrogon's power..
[15:38] <KittyPaws> Fuck sake
[15:38] <KittyPaws> :/
[15:39] <KittyPaws> Can't get the CRT today :/
[15:39] <gordonDrogon> KittyPaws, child/family friendly channel ...
[15:39] <KittyPaws> gordonDrogon: And?
[15:39] <KittyPaws> Your point is?
[15:39] <gordonDrogon> KittyPaws, don't swear.
[15:39] <shirish> pronto? what's SFW means ?
[15:39] <KittyPaws> gordonDrogon: Oh sorry
[15:39] <des2> Please avoid the F word else you be a smitten kitten
[15:39] <pronto> shirish: safe for work
[15:39] <shirish> cool.
[15:40] <pronto> shirish: nsfw=not safe for work. nsfl= not safe for life
[15:40] <shirish> pronto: nice :)
[15:40] <gordonDrogon> I've never conciously tried to keep a Pi up for a long time - yet.
[15:40] <des2> nsfa = not safe for anyone
[15:40] <shirish> and life goes on.
[15:40] <gordonDrogon> just checks a Pi: 14:37:16 up 6 days, 1:44, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
[15:40] <gordonDrogon> good enough for me :)
[15:41] <gordonDrogon> Ooh - there's a longer one: 14:40:57 up 11 days, 22:22, 2 users, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
[15:42] <linuxstb> 14:41:55 up 34 days, 12:52, 1 user, load average: 0.08, 0.03, 0.05
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> :)
[15:42] * linuxstb wonders about that load average, it should be idle...
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> 0.08 is nothing.
[15:43] <linuxstb> No, 0.00 is nothing ;)
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> load average is the number of processes marked as "runnable" over a period of time.
[15:44] <Armand> My Pi has been running *almost* constantly since I got it, early november.. I think it got a restart last week. :P
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[15:46] <gordonDrogon> Armand, yea, I suspect most peoples have - my oldest Pi has been powered up almost constantly since April, but rebooted who knows how many times :)
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[15:46] <Armand> I'm really keen to see how long I'll get on the batteries. ^_^
[15:46] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I did power them all down when I went on holiday last year for a week, and I took one away with me when I had an emergency trip abroad to make.
[15:46] <shirish> can anybody say if this HDMI cable is good for Pi and LCD monitor or not ? http://www.flipkart.com/amzer-88914-micro-hdmi-high-speed-male-cable-10ft/p/itmd8kypsxgd9wp3?pid=ACCD8KYJBXUMVPX8&ref=724af2dd-a7f2-414e-a905-ade953376836
[15:46] <gordonDrogon> Armand, yea, but you have big batteries :)
[15:46] <linuxthefish> i'm going to be leaving my pi on 24/7 (like all my computers), attached to the back of the TV :P
[15:47] <Armand> ^_^
[15:47] <Armand> 28Ah.. and only 1 Pi, so far.
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[15:47] <gordonDrogon> shirish, Pi has a standard HDMI connector, not a micro. I'd be surprised to see and monitors with micro sockets on them.
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[15:48] <linuxthefish> almost all HDMI connectors are overpriced, so watch out for "gold plated" etc
[15:48] <gordonDrogon> I have a gold plated one!
[15:48] <Gordio> Armand, and you need solar panels =)
[15:49] <Armand> I R have one... duh.. :P
[15:49] <Gordio> :D
[15:50] <Armand> I want to expand.. +3 Pi & panels.. but, that's around ?200. :/
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[15:52] <shirish> linuxthefish: you mean there's no need for 'gold plated ones' or the 'gold plated ones' is some sort of trick/gimmick ?
[15:52] <linuxthefish> shirish: both
[15:52] <Armand> shirish, no need at all.
[15:52] <shirish> thanx guys.
[15:52] <gordonDrogon> oxygen free coppe FTW!!!
[15:52] <Armand> As far as plating... isn't nickel better ?
[15:54] <shirish> gordonDrogon: FTW ?
[15:54] <linuxthefish> for the win
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[15:54] <shirish> linuxthefish: is gordonDrogon being sarcastic by that statement or saying that is good ?
[15:54] <Armand> OFC *is* good.
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[15:55] <shirish> Armand: ah, o.k.
[15:55] <Armand> But.. an unplated connector would quickly oxidise. :P
[15:55] <linuxthefish> he is saying that it is good, though you do not need oxygen free stuff :p
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> shirish, For The Win.
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> mosly just poking fun at audiophiles...
[15:55] <linuxthefish> gold is soft, no?
[15:56] <Armand> pure gold, yes
[15:56] <shirish> gordonDrogon: thanx, thought for a sec. Win. = Windows but understood later Win=Win.
[15:56] <Armand> VERY
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[15:56] <gordonDrogon> gold doesn't tarnish - that's why it's used on connectors. it won't ever rust.
[15:57] <gordonDrogon> I think its use may well be overrated on domestic stuff, however it's still used a lot.
[15:57] <linuxthefish> yes
[15:58] <gordonDrogon> I didn't particulalry go looking for an hdmi cable with gold plated connectors - it was the only one I could get at short notice.
[15:58] <gordonDrogon> it works fine though (into the DVI convertor to my monitor!)
[15:59] <KittyPaws> :(
[15:59] <KittyPaws> Yes, do as I say!
[15:59] <KittyPaws> geez APT! I know what I am doing! :D
[15:59] <Gordio> HDMI->DVI (NOT need converter)
[15:59] <Gordio> HDMI - digital signal
[15:59] <KittyPaws> and my system still does what i want it to do!
[15:59] <Gordio> DVI - digital and analog signal
[16:00] <dcorona_irc_2020> anyone help me out in configuring my wifi, http://pastebin.com/3k05WTCR you can find lsusb, ifconfig at pasteboard.
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[16:00] <Gordio> if see simple => DVI (Display Video Interfaca) == HDMI + VGA
[16:01] <gordonDrogon> Gordio, it converts the physical form.
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[16:02] <shurizzle> hi huys, I want to connect my vga monitor with my raspberry pi, what do?
[16:02] <Gordio> gordonDrogon, ok. Change =) not convert :P
[16:02] <Encrypt> shurizzle, Just buy a HDMI to VGA adapter
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[16:03] <shurizzle> can you give me some links?
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[16:03] <gordonDrogon> Gordio, your being overly pedantic. who cares.
[16:03] <gordonDrogon> adapter might have been a better word to use.
[16:04] <linuxthefish> shurizzle: if you have an old TV with RCA in, try that first
[16:04] <gordonDrogon> shurizzle, http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=hdmi+to+vga+convertor
[16:05] <shurizzle> gordonDrogon: i heard that there are fake cable-converter
[16:05] <Gordio> dcorona_irc_2020, I cant find good howto, but you can google: AR9271 gentoo, AR9271 archlinux, AR9271 linux
[16:05] <shurizzle> linuxthefish: it's my current situation :P
[16:06] <linuxthefish> ah
[16:07] <dcorona_irc_2020> Gordio I have installed the AR9271
[16:07] <dcorona_irc_2020> check the pastebin info, i seems to detec the network at scanning but no connection
[16:07] <Gordio> dcorona_irc_2020, check dmesg?
[16:08] <Gordio> Oh sorry, can't help.
[16:08] <Gordio> And good night to me :P good luck for you all ;-P
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[16:11] <dcorona_irc_2020> gordio find the dmesg at http://pastebin.com/5iZywKcj
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[16:12] <Gordio> dcorona_irc_2020, I think driver work.
[16:13] <luaa> Hii, i have a little problem, I changed my rc.local. This file is starting a script on boot. But the script wont stop when I press ctrl+c, help :(
[16:14] <dcorona_irc_2020> Gordio, works? without lan cable, i couldn't ping my router 10.0.0.1
[16:14] <luaa> Only ctrl+alt+del works, but then raspberrypi is going off
[16:14] <Gordio> But sometimes dongle broken, and not find network (i have one). If distortion PCB - work.
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[16:14] <dcorona_irc_2020> Gordio, I suspected the same and tested with a windows machine
[16:14] <linuxthefish> luaa: ssh in and kill it?
[16:14] <dcorona_irc_2020> it worked without any issues
[16:14] <luaa> Is there a way to stop the startup script
[16:15] <linuxthefish> ssh is enabled by defualt akaik
[16:15] <Gordio> dcorona_irc_2020, oh you need software for find and connect to you network AP?
[16:15] <dcorona_irc_2020> Gordio, i tried wpa_gui for configuring
[16:16] <dcorona_irc_2020> and also edited /etc/network/wpa_suppliant.conf file
[16:16] <luaa> Linuxthefish is there an other option?
[16:16] <luaa> Whats the default ssh password?
[16:16] <Gordio> I use net-wireless/iw
[16:16] <linuxthefish> plug the SD card into a computer and edit the file yourself
[16:16] <linuxthefish> defualt ssh user is "pi" and the pass is "raspberry" afaik
[16:17] <linuxthefish> unless you changed it
[16:17] <luaa> Okay thanks, I will try that
[16:18] <dcorona_irc_2020> http://imgur.com/El7YElq,j5W94AL#0
[16:18] <dcorona_irc_2020> http://imgur.com/El7YElq,j5W94AL#1
[16:19] <dcorona_irc_2020> apt-get install net-wireless ?
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[16:22] <linuxthefish> why does omxplayer never work?
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[16:24] <dcorona_irc_2020> Gordio: what is this net-wireless? i couldn't find it with apt-get
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[16:28] <Triffid_Hunter> linuxthefish: works for me
[16:29] <linuxthefish> if i type "omxplayer file.avi" it displays some stuff then says "Have a nice day"...
[16:30] <linuxthefish> http://pastebin.com/3qGhK80h
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[17:24] <pronto> http://tasty.bagels.xxx/ < got one of the horrible webcams pointed outside now xD
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[17:27] <Armand> pronto, do you stock "Crusty Brown's ring donuts" by any chance? :P
[17:27] <pronto> Armand: i do not
[17:27] <Armand> Shame...
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[17:27] <pronto> :(
[17:28] <Armand> They might sell well, with that domain. ;)
[17:28] <martk100> I am using enlightenment desktop on archlinux, I need to re-configue the desktop. How do I get the initial configuration screens back?
[17:28] <double-you> heh
[17:28] <double-you> raspi-config
[17:28] <double-you> oh
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[17:48] <martk100> Try again. I want to return to the initial configuration screens on Enlightenment desktop. Can anyone tell me how to do it?
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[17:54] <Joeboy> Anyone know when I'll be able to buy a model B?
[17:54] <Joeboy> er, model A?
[17:54] <pronto> i dont think they're making the model A anymore
[17:55] <Joeboy> The Model A is (oddly) supposed to be the successor to the model B
[17:55] <Joeboy> (a cut down, cheaper version)
[17:55] <pronto> o.O
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[17:56] <Joeboy> It's a reference to the BBC model a and b computers of the '80s
[17:56] <pronto> if you can't afforud $35, you have larger issues
[17:56] <Kisume> Mhh... I'm planning on removing my Pi from the electricity-meter-cupboard and putting it on my room... but I will have to switch from wired to WiFi. Since it's streaming/downloading 24/7 - is WiFi stable enough?
[17:56] <Kisume> I don't really want to resort to a powered hub.
[17:57] <Joeboy> pronto: I want more than one of them
[18:01] <SanMysterious> Hello, has anyone gotten rid of that horrible noise yet when using raspbian with an external soundcard like Creative's SoundBlaster X-Fi HD?
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[18:16] <frojnd> Hi there
[18:16] <pronto> hi hi
[18:16] <frojnd> I have a rpi 512MB version, in confit.txt I've added gpu_mem=16 yet after reboot I don't see more ram I only see total used free shared buffers cached
[18:16] <frojnd> Mem: 483M 131M 352M 0B 22M 63M
[18:17] <frojnd> Any ideas why gpu won't share memory?
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[18:18] <discorpia> if i were to build a shield adapter for the arduino form factor and focus on connecting spi/i2c/serial and power to the gpio, is there any reason i couldn't use them directly? (atleast the i2c/spi based ones)
[18:19] * Kisume mumbles something about Arch Linux ARM and how glorious it is.
[18:20] <|Jeroen|> well we can't understand mumbojumbo talk
[18:22] <mdik> lighttpd or nginx?
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[18:22] <|Jeroen|> pancake
[18:22] <mdik> (i want to run dokuwiki, but probably some python/django code later aswell)
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[18:23] <mdik> |Jeroen|: for eating? sure!
[18:23] <|Jeroen|> nah its a php based webserver
[18:23] <frojnd> Any ideas how to share gpu memory?
[18:24] <|Jeroen|> its even faster then lighthttp
[18:24] <frojnd> I use rpi for home server so I don't need X
[18:24] <Kisume> lighttpd all the way.
[18:24] <frojnd> therefor gpu is not useful for me..
[18:24] <Kisume> Although I like apache. Keeping it classy.
[18:24] <mdik> |Jeroen|, Kisume: and pancake/lighttpd will be able to serve python-stuff as well?
[18:25] <Kisume> Yes.
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[18:25] <Kisume> mod_python
[18:25] <|Jeroen|> i guess so
[18:25] <|Jeroen|> it does fast-cgi
[18:25] <nid0> frojnd: you can;t
[18:25] <frojnd> nid0: why not?
[18:25] <Kisume> mod_python removes the need for fastcgi
[18:25] <nid0> because you cant. memory assigned to the gpu is dedicated to the gpu
[18:26] <frojnd> nid0: in 256MB version I could, what changed?
[18:26] <nid0> frojnd: what exactly are you trying to do, no version of the pi has ever supported the ability to share gpu memory, ram thats assigned to the gpu is totally unavailable to the cpu
[18:28] <frojnd> nid0: by default gpu_mem gets 256 MB right?
[18:29] * Kisume is away: Dinner.
[18:29] <nid0> doubt it, its probably 128 even on the 512mb pi
[18:29] <|Jeroen|> no by default it gets 16
[18:29] <|Jeroen|> that i whuout the config file
[18:30] <frojnd> so in previous version of rpi I had model B with total of 256MB of RAM. when I added gpu_mem=16 in /boot/config.txt when I did free -h I saw ~356MB ...
[18:30] <nid0> no you didnt
[18:30] <frojnd> then I must be blind
[18:30] <|Jeroen|> yes
[18:30] <nid0> the total you have is 256/512, and then what free shows is that figure less whatever's set for gpu memory
[18:31] <nid0> so a 256 with 16mb for gpu would show just under 240 in free
[18:31] <nid0> in fact
[18:31] <nid0> root@raspberrypi:/ram# free -m
[18:31] <nid0> total used free shared buffers cached
[18:31] <nid0> Mem: 232 217 14 0 46 70
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[18:33] <frojnd> ok I was misslead
[18:33] <frojnd> gpu_mem=min min=16?
[18:36] <mdik> no results for aptitude search pancake...
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[18:37] <frojnd> OK I see..
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[18:42] <rstrt> Hello all! I've been having some difficulty with my Pi and Arch Linux
[18:42] <rstrt> I installed LXDE but it doesn't see /home
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[19:19] <timmmaaaayyy> anyone use hdmi_hotplug or hdmi_safe? what else did you set if anything?
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[19:24] <timmmaaaayyy> mine won't go to the correct resolution with hdmi_safe
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[19:31] <linuxstb> timmmaaaayyy: I use hdmi_force_hotplug=1, hdmi_group=1, hdmi_mode=20
[19:32] <timmmaaaayyy> ok cool thanks! do you know why you choose group1? i've never even heard of CEA or DMT (the two groups)
[19:33] <linuxstb> timmmaaaayyy: No, I have no idea either. I just tried various things when I got my first Pi, and have stuck with that as it worked.
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[19:33] <timmmaaaayyy> lol, cool. thanks much!
[19:33] <pksato> timmmaaaayyy: you display is? (monitor, tv, hdmi converter)
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[19:35] <timmmaaaayyy> 47" t
[19:35] <timmmaaaayyy> v
[19:35] <timmmaaaayyy> samsung 1080p
[19:36] <pksato> its is CEA and need hdmi drive.
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[19:36] <pksato> hdmi_group=1
[19:36] <pksato> hdmi_drive=2
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[19:38] <linuxthefish> does anyone know why OMXplayer gives this error when trying to play files?
[19:38] <linuxthefish> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=8g0CgyL8
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[19:38] <pksato> hdmi_safe force 640x480.
[19:38] <linuxstb> linuxthefish: What is your GPU/CPU RAM split?
[19:39] <linuxthefish> 32 for GPU (512mb total)
[19:39] <timmmaaaayyy> thank you pksato. why 640x480? that's not what i want
[19:39] <linuxstb> linuxthefish: That will be the problem. Try increasing - e.g. 128MB for the GPU
[19:40] <pksato> it ia safe mode, test, emergency, etc.
[19:40] <linuxthefish> ok
[19:40] <timmmaaaayyy> ok. thank you very much!
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[19:42] <KittyPaws> timmmaaaayyy!
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[19:52] <djazz> ha, managed to set up an RCA to livestream on my pi in less than an hour from flashing the sd card (arch) :)
[19:52] <djazz> using darkice and icecast
[19:53] <innaway> hey folks, qq. I'm just starting with the pi, working to replace a beaglebone in an embedded application. The goal is to get things configured then be able to dump the system image so I can stand up identical rpi's quickly. I had a bad time with this on the BB, and am a fairly lousy dd user :P
[19:53] <djazz> anyone know why the input volume is so low? how can i increase it?
[19:54] <innaway> so, question: am I helping myself out at all by not expanding the filesystem to fill the SD card in the rpi config? I probably only need a dozen megs (tops) for the python libs and scripts I'll be installing
[19:55] <innaway> (what I want to avoid is dumping an image of the full 4GB SD card, then finding that additional *allegedly* 4GB cards aren't big enough for the image)
[19:55] <linuxthefish> djazz: alsamixer
[19:55] <SpeedEvil> expand to 3.5
[19:55] <KittyPaws> :o
[19:55] <SpeedEvil> making it too small will wear only the occupied portion of the card
[19:56] <SpeedEvil> also, assuming free and timely availability of the pi may be foolish.
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[19:57] <innaway> SpeedEvil: gotcha. config tool only does the full fs (and does so at boot) so I'm guessing I just need to follow these instructions at the first boot on a fresh install? http://elinux.org/RPi_Resize_Flash_Partitions#Manually_resizing_the_SD_card_on_Raspberry_Pi
[19:58] <innaway> SpeedEvil: "free and timely availability" you mean relative to the BB?
[19:59] <linuxthefish> why is the pi audio quality so crap? :/
[20:00] <pksato> pi dont have a real audio codec.
[20:00] <SpeedEvil> innaway: I mean you can't go out and buy 43, for delivery Tuesday
[20:00] <SpeedEvil> innaway: dunnop
[20:03] <linuxthefish> oh
[20:03] <linuxthefish> there is static on quiet bits in the song, is that a low quality power supply problem?
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[20:04] <TAFB> Pi powered camera stream now with audio courtesy of ffmpeg :) http://tafb02.click2stream.com
[20:05] <innaway> SpeedEvil: ah, gotcha. Not worried about that, this is just to make a reproducible kit I can give to friends, not something I need to scale up to real production or anything
[20:06] <double-you> TAFB: oh there is the live billard performance!
[20:06] <TAFB> lol :)
[20:06] <TAFB> the audio feed is right from the TV, so you won't hear any pool game sounds or commentary :)
[20:07] <TAFB> i do have a live mic here, but need some audio adapter cables to connect it to the camera
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[20:08] <linuxthefish> TAFB: you leaving it on all the time? ;)
[20:08] <TAFB> Some people have request some "action" on the pool table
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[20:09] <TAFB> But 1) I'm short on women at the moment, and 2) this camera is a massive industrial camera, I don't think I could convince them it's "not on" ;)
[20:09] <linuxthefish> haha
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[20:09] <linuxthefish> it's a little slow to be watchable, but it's okish
[20:10] <TAFB> where ya live linux? I've had reports of slow/studdery performance from people across the pond
[20:11] <linuxthefish> i'm in the UK, what about you?
[20:12] <TAFB> Canada :(
[20:12] <linuxthefish> ah
[20:12] <TAFB> yeah, people from UK, NZ and Aus have reported issues
[20:12] <TAFB> I'll have to let click2stream know, maybe they don't have a good content delivery network with servers in europe, china, etc :(
[20:13] <TAFB> linuxthefish: if you do a http://www.speedtest.net link up your test result URL so I can send it to the click2stream guys
[20:13] <double-you> TAFB: everything's fine here
[20:13] <TAFB> where are you double?
[20:13] <linuxthefish> sure, i'll just get DNS working
[20:13] <double-you> germany
[20:13] <TAFB> I think germany has good pipe :)
[20:16] <Torikun> yo
[20:16] <TAFB> hey Torikun :)
[20:16] <Torikun> Your 16GB card was crap lol
[20:17] <Torikun> more corruption lol
[20:17] <KittyPaws> O.o
[20:17] <TAFB> lol. nice :)
[20:17] <Torikun> How you doing TAFB
[20:17] <TAFB> I'm doin good :)
[20:17] <Torikun> Cool. Any new projects?
[20:17] <TAFB> I got audio working with my camera on the Pi (thanks to ffmpeg) http://tafb02.click2stream.com
[20:18] <Torikun> Ooo onice
[20:18] <Torikun> We can hear you fart now lol
[20:18] <TAFB> Nothing too crazy at the moment. I'm waiting for my solar panel and batteries to arrive, after that lots of work on the solar project
[20:18] <Torikun> I hear audio!
[20:18] <TAFB> Torikun! Nice! What OS and Browser?
[20:18] <Torikun> Nice
[20:18] <Torikun> OSX Chrome
[20:18] <TAFB> it should even work on your mobile phone if you don't have a crappy one
[20:19] <TAFB> Ok, I'll mark it down. I'm keeping a list of what works and what doesn't so I can let the click2stream guys know.
[20:19] <Torikun> Cool
[20:19] <Torikun> TAFB get a mega account?
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[20:19] <TAFB> I have a mega account, but it's so friggen flaky right now, haven't successfully uploaded ANYTHING!
[20:19] <Torikun> oh wow
[20:20] <Torikun> I can;t think of a reason to use it over dropbox and gdrive
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[20:20] <TAFB> Can other people (police) see my ish on gdrive?
[20:20] <Torikun> Dunno
[20:21] <Torikun> Mega needs a desktop client for all OS and then I will say OK
[20:21] <TAFB> I'm still not sure how private Mega is either, like if they would hand over your encryption key at the drop of a hat :(
[20:21] <Hodapp> TAFB: If you're concerned, then encrypt.
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[20:22] <xzr> well they "shouldnt" have your private key
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[20:22] <Torikun> I do not use any encryption at home
[20:22] <TAFB> Hodapp: I've never worked with encryption before. I like encryption with Mega because it encrypts as I upload. Can gdrive do that?
[20:22] <Hodapp> I doubt it.
[20:22] <Torikun> Probably not
[20:22] <xzr> gdrive has no encryption
[20:23] <Torikun> does dropbox?
[20:23] <xzr> and the encryption scheme mega has is a bit dodgy
[20:23] <xzr> nope
[20:23] <TAFB> xzr: If I encrypt a folder on Mega, then want to work live, with files in it, I have to enter my encryption key. You just mean Mega probably doesn't store it?
[20:23] <Torikun> Mega does not have a non-web based way to upload right?
[20:23] <TAFB> Torikun: known to me
[20:23] <xzr> TAFB: well they "shouldnt"
[20:23] <xzr> :p
[20:23] <TAFB> Torikun: unknown to me
[20:23] <Torikun> oh
[20:24] <TAFB> xzr: after reading their TOS it's not clear if they do, or they don't ;)
[20:24] <xzr> mega's big idea was that you dont need a client
[20:24] <xzr> so it's browser only now
[20:24] <Torikun> well I like running dropbox cli on my linu servers
[20:24] <Torikun> lol
[20:24] <xzr> TAFB: yea I'm not touching it before they soothe out all the kinks
[20:24] <Torikun> I do not want to rely on a browser for my files, annoying
[20:24] <TAFB> xzr: I've waisted a ton of bandwidth trying to get stuff uploaded without success, so I give up for now.
[20:25] <xzr> well it's not like some 3rd party desktop software for transfering files is necessarily more secure than firefox for example
[20:25] <Torikun> convenience!
[20:25] <Torikun> lol
[20:25] <Torikun> I wish I could et owncloud installed
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[20:26] <linuxthefish> it might be wise not to use mega for a while until it's stabilised, and everyone is sure it's secure///
[20:26] <linuxthefish> ... *
[20:27] <xzr> and like
[20:27] <xzr> if I have some data that I want to encrypt
[20:27] <Torikun> gpg
[20:27] <Torikun> lol
[20:27] <xzr> surely I'm not going to store it in some cloud storage service
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[20:27] <Torikun> I like filesystem encrpytion better
[20:27] <xzr> I'll have a few encrypted copies at home
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[20:27] <Torikun> I hate individual file encrpyiton, annoying
[20:27] <Torikun> filesystem enryption is the best
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[20:28] <Torikun> say if you use owncloud, how could you encrpyt the traffic?
[20:28] <Torikun> https?
[20:28] <xzr> no idea what owncloud is
[20:29] <Torikun> owncloud is your own hosted version of dropbox
[20:29] <xzr> but usually you'll use https
[20:29] <Torikun> Yeah it uses https by default
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[20:29] <Torikun> so that means its encrpyted right?
[20:29] <shiftplusone> Meh, a truecrypt flashdrive is good enough for me.
[20:30] <Torikun> truecrypt had some controversey recently
[20:30] <shiftplusone> I remember licensing contreversey, but not security conroversey... what kind is it now?
[20:30] <viric> didi t? :)
[20:30] <Torikun> I think it was license adn that the FBI could crack it
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[20:31] <shiftplusone> Crack it properly or just brute force?
[20:31] <Torikun> not sure
[20:31] <Torikun> I would like to get it working on my pi with owncloud
[20:35] <BCMM> linuxthefish: saw a cryptoanalysis of it recently; they reckoned it was not very well thought through/rushed to release
[20:35] <BCMM> specifically, they have measures intended to make sure you don't have to trust their CDN, which is neat, but those measure are broken
[20:36] <Torikun> what are you talking about BCMM
[20:36] <shiftplusone> Mega, I think
[20:36] <Torikun> oh
[20:37] <BCMM> Torikun: if somebody highlights somebody else, it'll make more sense if you scroll up to the last line by "somebody else"
[20:37] <BCMM> http://fail0verflow.com/blog/2013/megafail.html the analysis i mentioned
[20:37] <Torikun> oh ok
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[20:38] <linuxthefish> yeah, that's what i mean :/
[20:38] <BCMM> tl;dr they save resources by having an unencrypted CDN serve parts of their pages, but use a client-side hashing system to protect against interference or MITM with CDN nodes
[20:39] <BCMM> but the hashing system doesn't work properly
[20:39] <linuxthefish> i still just use ftp and my own webserver, fast and always up!
[20:39] <BCMM> why not sftp?
[20:39] <linuxthefish> good idea
[20:39] <BCMM> more secure AND easier setup
[20:39] <linuxthefish> k, done :p
[20:39] <BCMM> and key pairs make automation easier
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[20:40] <BCMM> (i do not mean ftps btw, i mean the system built in to openssh)
[20:40] <linuxthefish> yes, i know
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[20:40] <BCMM> linuxthefish: figured their might be other people reading
[20:40] <BCMM> ^there
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[20:41] <linuxthefish> it's still on password auth though, but i'm to lazy to change it
[20:41] <KittyPaws> http://groups.freecycle.org/burnleyandpendlefreecycle/posts/27355987
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[20:41] <linuxthefish> KittyPaws: "You need to be logged in and a Member of this Group to reply to this Post "
[20:41] <linuxthefish> or read it
[20:41] <KittyPaws> :/
[20:41] <KittyPaws> Fuck em
[20:42] <KittyPaws> linuxthefish: tho it weird
[20:42] <KittyPaws> I can view posts without being logged in.
[20:42] <linuxthefish> post the full link
[20:42] <a930913> How many amps can you move between two ground pins on the pi?
[20:42] <KittyPaws> linuxthefish: I did?
[20:42] <SpeedEvil> don't
[20:42] <SpeedEvil> use a wire
[20:42] <linuxthefish> like http://groups.freecycle.org/burnleyandpendlefreecycle/posts/27346057/Working%20Printer%3F
[20:42] <KittyPaws> That's the full link!
[20:42] <KittyPaws> ...
[20:43] * KittyPaws is confuzzled
[20:43] <TomWij> Every time you scold, an OP kills a KittyPaws. ^^
[20:43] <KittyPaws> TomWij: ?
[20:43] <KittyPaws> no OP killed me.
[20:43] <KittyPaws> :/
[20:44] <KittyPaws> linuxthefish: I can't get the full link.
[20:44] <linuxthefish> ok
[20:44] <TomWij> The F word. They will if you repeat, therefore the above hint... :D
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[20:45] <KittyPaws> Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck
[20:45] <KittyPaws> Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck Fuck
[20:45] <KittyPaws> TomWij: ^
[20:45] <KittyPaws> Better?
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[20:45] * KittyPaws is still alive
[20:45] <a930913> SpeedEvil: The wire I can either connect to the ground or the other wire, gets pulled out by the device when it moves, when connected with the wire :(
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[20:45] <SpeedEvil> what are you trying to do?
[20:46] <KittyPaws> SpeedEvil: Who? :o
[20:46] <SpeedEvil> amps - plural - through the pi is s probably a bad idea
[20:46] <SpeedEvil> a930913:
[20:46] <a930913> SpeedEvil: Ground two devices.
[20:47] <KittyPaws> a930913: Whyy ground the pi?!
[20:47] <KittyPaws> :/
[20:47] <KittyPaws> is it outside vulnerable to thunder storms?
[20:47] <a930913> One being an hbridge, another being the supply power to the hbridge.
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[20:50] <a930913> SpeedEvil: Any ideas?
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[20:55] <TAFB> anyone know, on GPS units, what the predictive read ahead technology is called? Like if the GPS has a 1hz update, it guesses your location to make a smoother display. What's that called?
[20:56] <mgottschlag> what about dead reckoning?
[20:56] <TAFB> yeah, I think that's it :) thanks!
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[20:57] <Davespice> shiftplusone: did you ban her too?
[20:58] <shiftplusone> yeah 'course
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[21:12] <Davespice> fair enough, looks they were blatently testing the boundaries hey
[21:13] <discorpia> i'm having this error after trying to install wiringpi-python; http://pastebin.com/tYSLNrHJ anyone have any idea what may cause that?
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[21:23] <john_f> discorpia: is swig the lastest version avail?
[21:25] <linuxthefish> why do i always get "ERROR: COMXCoreComponent::DecoderEventHandler OMX.broadcom.audio_mixer - OMX_ErrorPortUnpopulated port 0, cannot parse input stream" in omxplayer?
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[21:32] <hellsing> hello
[21:33] <hellsing> does anyone tried to use a xbox360 controller with gngeo on the pi?
[21:34] <hellsing> gngeo tried to use /dev/js0 which isn t mapped with a xbox controller
[21:34] <hellsing> so i need to use xboxdrv and sent the command to /dev/js0, but i'm a bit stuck
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[21:46] <gordonDrogon> discorpia, can't help you with the python wrapper I'm afraid - you need Gadgetoid for that...
[21:53] <Joeboy> discorpia: Have you tried with python2.x?
[21:54] <Joeboy> The 2.x series is still kind of the "normal" python version
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[21:56] <linuxthefish> is there anyway to get VLC to make use of the hardware acceleration?
[21:57] <shiftplusone> Code in raspberry pi openmax support
[21:57] <mjr> since it's free software, you can implement the support, but short of that probably slim pickins
[21:57] <linuxthefish> oh...
[21:57] <linuxthefish> any omxplayer alternatives?
[21:58] <hellsing> mplayer doesn t use the harware acceleration?
[21:58] <chris_99> don't think so
[21:58] <shiftplusone> omxplayer is your only choice (or xbmc)
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[21:59] <linuxthefish> i would install xbmc, but i still need the normal desktop...
[21:59] <djazz> whats wrong with omxplayer?
[22:00] <mjr> people have pondered a bit about the openmax thing, which vlc in principle supports, but no go so far: http://forum.videolan.org/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=101149
[22:00] <djazz> except that its fullscreen only
[22:00] <linuxthefish> djazz: it does not work for me!!
[22:00] <mjr> (so far being by christmas, no idea about later)
[22:00] <djazz> errors?
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[22:02] <linuxthefish> djazz: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=krTrBXtm
[22:03] <linuxthefish> i am trying the whole thing out over VNC before my TV arrives...
[22:04] <djazz> linuxthefish: what gpu_mem split do you use?
[22:04] <linuxthefish> 128mb
[22:05] <djazz> what codec is the file?
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[22:05] <linuxthefish> i don't know, a random mp4 trailer from the internet
[22:05] <djazz> linuxthefish: omxplayer -i <file>
[22:06] <djazz> you use raspbian? is it up to date?
[22:06] <linuxthefish> i think so
[22:06] <linuxthefish> apt-get update and upgrade have been run
[22:06] <djazz> when did you flash the card?
[22:06] <djazz> how recent?
[22:07] <linuxthefish> i got my pi with the SD card
[22:07] <linuxthefish> factory flashed
[22:07] <djazz> aha
[22:07] <djazz> and you only get "have a nice day ;)" message?
[22:07] <djazz> when playing
[22:07] <linuxthefish> yep
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[22:08] <djazz> no info about the file?
[22:08] <rstrt> Has anyone tried running KDE on a Pi? (Arch build) I imagine it would be pretty unbearable, worth giving it a shot?
[22:09] <linuxthefish> djazz, i'm pastebin'ing it now
[22:11] <linuxthefish> does the pi have ssh enabled by defualt?
[22:11] <djazz> yes
[22:11] <linuxthefish> ah, time to reflash then i guess!
[22:12] <hellsing> rstrt, never try it, is it already compiled?
[22:12] <linuxthefish> djazz: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=5L1CFhVm
[22:12] <djazz> linuxthefish: can you play the file on another computer?
[22:13] <rstrt> No clue, probably not lol
[22:13] <linuxthefish> yep
[22:13] <linuxthefish> i've tried a few films i have on my computer aswell
[22:13] <djazz> have you tried the rpi-update tool?
[22:13] <djazz> by Hexxeh
[22:15] <hellsing> rstrt, will take you hours to compile all the kde dependancies...
[22:16] <rstrt> I probably won't bother, I just got my Pi and I'm still playing around.
[22:16] <rstrt> It will eventually live off SSH
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[22:18] <hellsing> lxde is fine you know
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[22:28] <tdy> to answer the question if the kde packages are already compiled - yes, kde group in the arm repos
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[22:29] <tdy> arch-arm*
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[22:49] <linuxthefish> will i be fine running my pi on the carpet?
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[22:51] <rymate1234> sure
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[22:57] <shiftplusone> I wonder a bit about static, but built up circuit board aren't as prone to being messed up by static as single components.
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[22:58] <alexhairyman> If I were to power a component (such as an LED, or a RTC module) from a separate source (not using GND, or the 5V pins on the raspberry pi), but still hook up a gpio pin to an NPN transistor, would I be OK?
[22:59] <alexhairyman> I want to do something like this http://i.imgur.com/hLikuSO.jpg (you can ignore everything but the led-stuff)
[22:59] <piney0> alexhairyman, i would tie the grounds together
[23:00] <alexhairyman> so have the GND on the pi go the GND on the battery too?
[23:00] <alexhairyman> so that the LED and other components share a common ground
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[23:01] <piney0> the gpio pin will output voltage referenced from the ground
[23:01] <piney0> yes
[23:01] <alexhairyman> but I don't need the 5v from the pi?
[23:02] <piney0> no you don't if you are supplying your own power
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[23:03] <pksato> On eletric/electronic circuit, allways have a node called common,
[23:04] <alexhairyman> okay, so will the GPIO pin voltage still be 3.3V?
[23:04] <alexhairyman> I'm a complete noob with electronics :(
[23:05] <pksato> this node, on most cases are same a GND.
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[23:05] <piney0> alexhairyman, yes, the gpio will output 3.3 volts
[23:06] <alexhairyman> okay, let me modify the schematic to make sure I didn't screw something up
[23:07] <piney0> alexhairyman, what is your end goal to accomplish?
[23:07] <piney0> if you just want to power a single led, it doesn't have to be thet complicated is why im asking
[23:07] <alexhairyman> I'm trying to make an arcade table,
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[23:08] <pksato> DS1307 is 3v3 safe?
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[23:09] <darlekc> anyone using arch ARM on the pi?
[23:09] <alexhairyman> I am
[23:10] <darlekc> what WM?
[23:10] <alexhairyman> none, sorry
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[23:10] <darlekc> damn
[23:10] <alexhairyman> I stick to the TTY/ssh for everything
[23:10] <darlekc> ive been having issues trying to run xfce4
[23:11] <darlekc> might just be due to the RAM capability, but can't tell
[23:11] <alexhairyman> update your firmware and give gpu_mem maybe
[23:11] <pksato> alexhairyman: and, R2 have very high value. Or Q1 is a darligton transistor?
[23:11] <]DMackey[> http://paritynews.com/software/item/582-openarena-now-playable-on-raspberry-pi
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[23:12] <alexhairyman> pksato, I need to halve it's value
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[23:12] <alexhairyman> so I get ~25ma
[23:13] <alexhairyman> I'm having a hard time getting transistors, even though they seem so simple
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[23:21] <SpeedEvil> transistors have a little man, a voltage meter, and a wheel. if the meter reads higher, the little man turns the wheel more to the right, lowering the resistance
[23:21] <shirish> does anybody how to get the progress-bar while using dcfldd ?
[23:22] <SpeedEvil> some modern transistors have women in.
[23:22] <shirish> does anybody how to modify this command dcfldd bs=4M if=2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/3035-6363/
[23:22] <shirish> so that I can get that progress bar ?
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[23:22] <TAFB> you have to open another terminal, and send a kill command to DD to get it to spit out progress
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[23:23] <alexhairyman> shirish use pv
[23:23] <shirish> alexhairyman: what's pv ?
[23:24] <alexhairyman> pv <image file> | dd of=/dev/sda bs=1M
[23:24] <TAFB> Open new shell terminal.
[23:24] <TAFB> Run pgrep -l '^dd$'
[23:24] <TAFB> Find out process number then run: watch -n5 sudo kill -USR1 8789
[23:24] <alexhairyman> shirish it's like cat, but it prints a progress bar to stderr
[23:24] <TAFB> will cause original terminal to spit out progress every 5 seconds
[23:24] <alexhairyman> outputs file to stdout for dd
[23:26] <shirish> alexhairyman: which package has the pv command ?
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[23:27] <alexhairyman> shirish 'pv'
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[23:49] <shirish> alexhairyman: it's working but I haven't unmounted /dev/sdb1, is that ok ?
[23:50] <alexhairyman> are you writing to /dev/sdb ?
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[23:50] <alexhairyman> if you write to /dev/sdb any and all partitions on sdb should be unmounter
[23:50] <shirish> alexhairyman: this is the command pv 2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian.img | dd of=/dev/sdb1 bs=1M
[23:51] <shirish> alexhairyman: dunno if it's doing the right thing or not.
[23:51] <alexhairyman> it's ok, you're very close! instead of sdb1 just do sdb
[23:51] <shirish> alexhairyman: df -h doesn't show any /dev/sdb
[23:51] <alexhairyman> shirish sdb is the device, sdb{1,2,3} and so forth are the actual partitions
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[23:52] <alexhairyman> so to flash the wheezy image to the SD card, you need to do sdb
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[23:52] <alexhairyman> because the image contains a partition table/mbr
[23:53] <alexhairyman> does that make sense?
[23:53] <alexhairyman> it won't show up in df
[23:53] <alexhairyman> if you have lsblk installed it can show you what I mean
[23:53] <Naphatul> so i've read several places that there's some crackling with audio playback and analog output, how true is this?
[23:53] <shirish> alexhairyman: I killed it, took out the SD card and put it back in, nothing shows up :(
[23:53] <shiftplusone> very
[23:54] <Naphatul> shiftplusone: was that directed at me?
[23:54] <shiftplusone> yes
[23:54] <alexhairyman> shirish, rerun the command exactly like this sudo bash -c "pv 2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian.img | dd of=/dev/sdb bs=1M"
[23:54] <alexhairyman> if you're already root leave out the sude
[23:54] <shiftplusone> Naphatul, if you want high quality audio you have to use hdmi
[23:55] <Naphatul> shiftplusone: i wanted to plug my stereo in it and set up a web interface for playback
[23:55] <Naphatul> is it a design flaw? any fixes for it?
[23:56] <pronto> http://tasty.bagels.xxx/ woah, it's all focused now , neat
[23:56] <shiftplusone> Naphatul, not a design flaw. It was designed to be a low cost device for eduation. High quality audio is expensive, so it was designed to be as good as possible without adding much cost... so it's exactly as designed in that sense.
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[23:56] <shirish> alexhairyman: for some reason it seems to be stuck on 353 MB and not moving further.
[23:57] <shirish> alexhairyman: I am using your bash -c "pv 2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian.img | dd of=/dev/sdb bs=1M" command.
[23:57] <alexhairyman> hmmm.... check the md5
[23:57] <Naphatul> well i wouldn't consider crackling normal quality let alone high
[23:57] <alexhairyman> md5sum <file>
[23:57] <alexhairyman> shirish and there shoulr be one you can compare against on the site
[23:57] <shiftplusone> Naphatul, I didn't say anything that would suggest otherwise.
[23:58] <Naphatul> so, uhh how noticeable is it?
[23:59] <shirish> alexhairyman: doing it. Btw it started to move again but now it's slow.
[23:59] <shiftplusone> Naphatul, enough that you should reconsider using it for the purpose I would say. You can reduce it by using crossfade, but it is something you'll be able to hear once in a while.
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