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IRC Log for 2013-01-28

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[0:15] <UnaClocker> Uploading my video now.. :)
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[0:54] <UnaClocker> Man this video is taking a long time.. 35 minutes left on the upload, it says...
[0:55] <shiftplusone> How'd the battery life test go?
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[0:58] <UnaClocker> I'm at 4 hours, 20 minutes, 3 lights remaining.. heh..
[0:59] <UnaClocker> It's pretty epic.. :)
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[0:59] <shiftplusone> And the screen is on the whole time too?
[0:59] <UnaClocker> shiftplusone: Did you see what I found about the two jumper resistors?
[0:59] <UnaClocker> Yeah, screen is on, I'm typing on the lapdock right this second. :)
[1:00] <shiftplusone> Yup
[1:00] <UnaClocker> :)
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[1:00] <modem> :) hello
[1:01] <shiftplusone> Just used a hot air gun to desolder, yeah?
[1:01] <modem> I am making a gentoo-based distro specifically for the raspberry pi. I need experienced pi users, as well as gentoo users, to help out.
[1:01] <modem> message me if you are interested in contributing to my project :)
[1:01] <UnaClocker> Well, a hot air rework station..
[1:01] <shiftplusone> close enough
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[1:02] <UnaClocker> :) Yeah
[1:02] <shiftplusone> I have an atten 858D+ (the cheap one that's all over ebay) that should do the trick
[1:02] <shiftplusone> I had trouble using it to remove the usb polyfuses though
[1:02] <UnaClocker> Yup, that's what I used.
[1:02] <shiftplusone> Had to turn it up to silly temperatures before the solder would melt =/
[1:03] <UnaClocker> I think I had it set to 387...
[1:03] <shiftplusone> Think I almost damaged the traces.
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[1:03] <shiftplusone> It works fine, but I was a bit concerned it would power up afterwards.
[1:03] <shiftplusone> *wouldn't
[1:03] <UnaClocker> I usually have to run it at about 400, I hope that's Farenheit..
[1:04] <shiftplusone> ....no, pretty sure it's C
[1:04] <UnaClocker> hehe..
[1:05] <shiftplusone> You would only use F by default if it's a US only product or if you're crazy.
[1:05] <UnaClocker> Yeah, I was just going by results.. It should desolder at 250-280 if it's C.. Even 350 won't desolder usually..
[1:06] <shiftplusone> On the pi or in general?
[1:06] <UnaClocker> In general.. I use the thing all the time for all sorts of things.. Even used it with solder paste to install new components.. Even solder paste barely melts at 350..
[1:07] <shiftplusone> hm
[1:08] <plugwash> The thing with hot air is it isn't a very effective way of transferring heat
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[1:08] <shiftplusone> Maybe it's the temp of the heating element, so it cools down by the time it's on the board.
[1:08] <plugwash> so the air temperature has to be a lot hotter than the solders melting point for it to work
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[1:09] <shiftplusone> that too
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[1:10] <plugwash> for passives which only have two terminals I find heated tweezers are a lot better than hot air
[1:10] <UnaClocker> Yeah, definitely.
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[1:10] <UnaClocker> Or just a pair of irons..
[1:10] <shiftplusone> Heated tweezers like regular tweezers that you heat or is it an actual device?
[1:11] <UnaClocker> It's a soldering iron with twin tips that come together like tweezers..
[1:11] <shiftplusone> Hm, haven't seen that before
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[1:19] <shiftplusone> Are they pricey or is it just an attachment you can get for a typical soldering iron?
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[1:21] <UnaClocker> They're just an attachment you can get for a pricey iron.. heh..
[1:24] <plugwash> The set i've used is a dedicated device (though it uses the same base as the iron)
[1:24] <plugwash> but it certainly wasn't cheap
[1:26] <shiftplusone> Alright thanks
[1:26] <shiftplusone> doesn't sound like something within my budget for a while, but something to look into later.
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[1:29] <prjkt> hi guys.
[1:29] <prjkt> are there any usb "soundcards" (anything with mic in) that are known to work on the raspberry?
[1:29] <UnaClocker> prjkt: Yeah, the cheap $3 ones on eBay..
[1:30] <prjkt> can you be more specific?
[1:30] <prjkt> I'm not looking for a mic, but for a usb device that has a mic in on it
[1:30] <prjkt> (i.e. usb sound card)
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[1:31] <UnaClocker> On eBay, I just typed. "USB sound card" and the first few results were correct...
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[1:31] <UnaClocker> Usually an opaque plastic case that says "3D Sound" on it..
[1:32] <pksato> these cheaps are mono audio input and 11khz sample rate.
[1:32] <UnaClocker> heh, there's one for $1.24, buy it now with free shipping.. Gotta love china..
[1:33] <prjkt> ah, okay. I didn't realize you were being LITERAL with "Yeah, the cheap $3 ones on eBay".. I thought you were being snarky! :)
[1:33] <prjkt> but that was literally your reference for me so, uh, thanks :)
[1:33] <UnaClocker> hehe..
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[1:33] <prjkt> how can it have free shipping from china and cost $1?
[1:34] <UnaClocker> Communism?
[1:34] <prjkt> what I mean is, isn't shipping anything more expensive than that?
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[1:35] <UnaClocker> What I mean is I think the government covers shipping..
[1:35] <Viper7> not in a country that hugely subsidies postage
[1:35] <prjkt> it has to be like a 10 cent item, and then they make 10 cents on it, and the rest is actual shipping.
[1:35] <prjkt> oh
[1:35] <rstrt|pi> Is there a Raspberry Pi Arch channel?
[1:35] <prjkt> you're looking at it
[1:35] <Viper7> subsidize even
[1:35] <prjkt> these are some interesting specs right there
[1:35] <prjkt> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-USB-2-0-to-3D-Audio-Sound-Card-Adapter-External-Virtual-5-1-/400398690111?pt=US_Sound_Card_External&hash=item5d399f273f
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[1:36] <rstrt|pi> I'm trying to setup x11vnc to start on boot, but unsure of what file I need to edit
[1:36] <prjkt> Features: 100% BRAND NEW!
[1:36] <prjkt> not mostly brand new, but 100%
[1:36] <prjkt> "Self-defining balanced mode" - we make up our own definition of "balance"
[1:36] <UnaClocker> Ok, just hit the 5 hour mark on my battery life test.. Didn't make it this far last time.. This time, I still have 3 lights left on the battery.. So 60% or better.. Holy cow...
[1:36] <prjkt> "16 Kinds of rhythm preserve the mode"
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[1:36] <prjkt> UnaClocker, I'm at 18 hours and counting. Course, I am plugged directly into the mains...
[1:36] <factor> Does raspberry have a browser that is compile dwith openGL ES enabled.
[1:36] <prjkt> "23 Kinds of acoustic fields preserve the mode"
[1:36] * linuxthefish` is now known as linuxthefish
[1:37] <prjkt> "Supports 3D sound (Ac-3) Stereo 5.1-channel sound track Virtual speaker shifter"
[1:37] <prjkt> are you sold yet?
[1:37] <UnaClocker> I've got two already. ;)
[1:37] <Viper7> virtual speaker shifter
[1:37] <prjkt> "Chipset: 6911(for normal sound quality only)"
[1:37] <Viper7> aka throw the rear channel out of phase and blend it with the front
[1:37] <UnaClocker> Handy on a hackintosh when you can't get the audio to work..
[1:37] <prjkt> but it says "If you need HIGH quality sound, we recommend you buy products which built with CM119 / CM108 / CM106 Chipset."
[1:38] <prjkt> are you getting NORMAL quality out of it or HIGH quality?
[1:38] <prjkt> ahhhhhhhhh
[1:38] <prjkt> I know why it's $1.25
[1:38] <prjkt> that usb mic is certianly subsidized by the chinese government, but not the way you think (shipping)
[1:38] <Viper7> heh
[1:39] <prjkt> There is no way that it is a coincidence that that's a usb mic. what's a little network traffic among friendly peripherals...?
[1:39] <prjkt> anyhoo I'll still order one
[1:39] <rstrt|pi> Any ideas?
[1:39] <Viper7> http://dx.com/p/mini-pig-2-leds-flashlight-white-3-lr1130-included-1138
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[1:40] <linuxthefish> can i run my RPi 24/7?
[1:40] <Viper7> yep, fear the pig informant
[1:40] <linuxthefish> and how long will it last?
[1:40] <prjkt> Viper7, in case the first dozen rows of product shots aren't clear, there are a few dozen more immediately below.
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[1:41] <prjkt> that's the kind of attention to detail that wins a customer.
[1:41] <Viper7> :P
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[1:42] <UnaClocker> linuxthefish: I'm using a device similar to the Pi, 24/7 for over 3 years now. Still goin strong.. Worn out a couple power bricks over the years..
[1:42] <linuxthefish> thanks UnaClocker, i'm using an old lab power supply so it should be ok
[1:44] <UnaClocker> Ok, my video with me doing the mods to my Pi.. And the test results.. http://youtu.be/L1EihTxIdnQ
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[1:44] <TAFB> did you swap out the 3.3v regulator too? it wastes so much power.
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[1:46] <UnaClocker> No, but I read that because it's under so much less load after this conversion, that it's not really worth doing.
[1:46] <TAFB> ahhh. makes sense :)
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[1:46] <tdy> which device? the one similar to the Pi, 24/7 for 3+ years
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[1:47] <UnaClocker> Also figured out why the USBhub/ethernet chip got HOT on the original Pi, but not so much on Rev 2.. Apparently the hub has an internal 1.8v regulator, and it was wired up so that it was using it previously, when it shouldn't have been..
[1:47] <UnaClocker> tdy: SheevaPlug
[1:48] <TAFB> UnaClocker: love my sheevaplug like device :) http://tafb.yi.org
[1:48] <TAFB> ohhhh gettin some good uptime :)
[1:49] <shiftplusone> rstrt|pi, #archlinux-arm
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[1:49] <shiftplusone> as for the actual issues you're having I am 90% certain the answer is on the archlinux wiki
[1:49] <prjkt> this is hilarious - reviews for your usb mic
[1:49] <prjkt> http://www.hermann-uwe.de/photoblog/3d-sound-usb-audio-device
[1:50] <prjkt> "Hey, does your microphone is working? Mine not, I can hear only a noise, and it looks, like this device is able to capture at only 24kHz sampling rate "
[1:50] <prjkt> response 1: "
[1:50] <prjkt> Just installed it, and when I connect my speakers to it, it has a continuous 'buzz' or 'beep' as background noise. Really annoying.
[1:50] <prjkt> "
[1:50] <prjkt> response 2: "It's USB audio noise. you need a ground loop isolator to get rid of that noise with the USB audio interface. radio shack has them for $16.99
[1:50] <prjkt> http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062214"
[1:51] <prjkt> yep, $1.25 - chinese usb mic. $16.99 usb ground loop isolator from radioshack. lol.
[1:51] <TAFB> I spend all day trying to get VLC play to stream raw video over the network, turns out it can't. Tried to use ffmpeg but it won't see capture card :(
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[1:52] <prjkt> wow. " Bad record quality is because recording is only 8-bit packed to 16-bit at the output"
[1:52] <prjkt> 8-bit sound card. You get 256 levels. This is like 30 years out of date.
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[1:52] <prjkt> boy, you get what you pay for.
[1:52] <Viper7> prjkt: because its just an 8 bit microcontroller with usb interface, using PWM for audio output
[1:53] <Viper7> the equivalent of an application note for any of the basic PICs with USB support
[1:53] <prjkt> well I can't use this for a usb mic, though thanks.
[1:53] <prjkt> "Avoid the Tenx ?3D? USB audio sound cards" - http://jeff.ecchi.ca/blog/2009/05/14/avoid-the-tenx-3d-usb-audio-sound-cards/
[1:53] <rstrt|pi> @shiftplusone - Thanks mate!
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[1:57] <pksato> Bus 007 Device 002: ID 1130:f211 Tenx Technology, Inc. TP6911 Audio Headset
[1:57] <pksato> work as expected here.
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[2:37] <UnaClocker> heh, 6 hours... 2 lights still..
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[3:15] <SwK> argh??? USB packet loss
[3:15] <SwK> anyone know of a fix or work around for that?
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[3:18] <UnaClocker> Anyone want to upvote my video link on Reddit? :)
[3:20] <UnaClocker> http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/17eejg/i_reduced_power_draw_of_my_pi_by_converting_it_to/ Upvote that, if you have a reddit account, please..:)
[3:20] <UnaClocker> My posts never seem to even make it to a place that can be noticed, lately, for some reason.
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[3:23] <SwK> UnaClocker: what did you use to get the ethernet chip to let go?
[3:23] <UnaClocker> Hot air rework station, the cheap 858D+ unit found on eBay..
[3:23] <SwK> cool
[3:24] <SwK> i'm just getting cranky with the USB packet loss thing
[3:24] * UnaClocker nods.
[3:25] <SwK> wait hold on I noticed P2 is not populated with a header on your vidoe
[3:25] <SwK> is that normal on some of them?
[3:25] <SwK> never mind some of my newer ones dont have that populated either lol
[3:25] <UnaClocker> Neither of my 512mb units have P2 populated
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[3:26] <UnaClocker> It'd be nice if P5 were populated..
[3:26] <SwK> ahh this is a 256 unit with P2 populated
[3:27] <SwK> what P5?
[3:27] <SwK> i2s?
[3:28] <UnaClocker> It's directly below the main header, P1..
[3:28] <UnaClocker> It's got some of the GPIO's and such
[3:28] <SwK> ahhh yeah
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[3:28] <SwK> that looks it should be easy to populate
[3:29] <UnaClocker> Yeah
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[3:30] <lanctotsm> Hi everyone I was hoping someone could shed some light on how to connefct to a raspberry pi without a router connecting directly to ethernet
[3:30] <SwK> I think no audio our , no composite video out, and a better power input connector would be nice heh
[3:30] <lanctotsm> I think I have to set a static ip on the pi but I dont know how
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[3:30] <UnaClocker> lanctotsm: The linux command you need to google is ifconfig
[3:31] <lanctotsm> Thanks ill check it out
[3:31] <SwK> lanctotsm: easy way ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.100 netmask 255.255.255.0 while logged in as root, this will not save it??? theres more docs out there on google for setting it so it will do that on reboot
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[3:39] <steve_rox> just saw utube vid of someone de soldering their lan chip on pi to reduce power consumption
[3:40] <UnaClocker> Yup, that's me. ;)
[3:40] <steve_rox> yay
[3:40] <steve_rox> i was most impressed
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[3:40] <UnaClocker> :) Thanks.. My lapdock that previously went 5 hours on a charge just cracked 7 hours, still going.
[3:40] <JakeSays> so i just booted my raspi, but i can't ping its hostname (ip works though) do i have to do something to publish the hostname with dns?
[3:41] <steve_rox> was wondering if a mod could be done when you can switch lanchip on and off
[3:41] <steve_rox> just a thought
[3:41] <Torikun> Yo
[3:41] <steve_rox> weriiiid how you popped up
[3:42] <UnaClocker> steve_rox: I had to jumper the USB around the missing lan chip, so it'd be a bit more involved than just cutting power to it..
[3:42] <steve_rox> oh and im your 300th subscriber ;-)
[3:42] <steve_rox> yeah i saw the jumper
[3:42] <UnaClocker> :) Sweet, thanks..
[3:42] <steve_rox> a lot easyer than soldering chip pads
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[3:43] <UnaClocker> Yeah, I spent a good half hour trying to solder those pads.. hehe..
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[3:43] <steve_rox> drives ya crazy
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[3:43] <SwK> UnaClocker: how big of a battery pack are you using
[3:43] <UnaClocker> Yeah, QFN packages have really tiny pads..
[3:44] <UnaClocker> SwK: I'm using the Motorola Lapdock, not sure what size battery is in it..
[3:44] <UnaClocker> Turns the Pi into a laptop..
[3:44] <steve_rox> unfortinately discontinued right?
[3:44] <JakeSays> hey whats the default root pwd?
[3:44] <SwK> UnaClocker: oh really? are those thing cheap now?
[3:44] <UnaClocker> Yup, got mine for $40.. You can get them for like $77 from Amazon still..
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[3:45] <UnaClocker> JakeSays: raspberry
[3:45] <steve_rox> probly going to become more rare
[3:45] <UnaClocker> Yup..
[3:45] <UnaClocker> It's really well built, I'm quite impressed with it..
[3:45] <SwK> UnaClocker: using the 100?
[3:46] <UnaClocker> 100 what?
[3:46] <JakeSays> UnaClocker: didnt work
[3:46] <SwK> the lapdock theres a few models
[3:46] <UnaClocker> JakeSays: login as pi, password raspberry, then sudo passwd root to set the root password
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[3:46] <UnaClocker> Ahh, lemme see..
[3:47] <JakeSays> UnaClocker: ah that worked. thanks!
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[3:47] <UnaClocker> I dunno, it just says lapdock for motorola atrix on the box..
[3:47] <UnaClocker> Mine has the UK keyboard, but that's fine since the Pi defaults to that..
[3:47] <SwK> k thanks UnaClocker
[3:48] <UnaClocker> bbiab, shower time.
[3:48] <steve_rox> yay uk keybord
[3:49] <lanctotsm> Im trying to get my pirobot brain to connect to my laptop and its been a pain...
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[3:50] <steve_rox> i have no idea what that is
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[3:50] <lanctotsm> Everything worked on the loopback it should work with wifi... in theory
[3:52] <lanctotsm> I strapped a pi to a robot chassis, it communicates with a arduino controlling the motors and it should be scooting around by now.. : /
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[4:05] <Gordio> UnaClocker, sudo password root - bad
[4:06] <UnaClocker> Ahh
[4:06] <Gordio> if loged in as root -> passwd # for change current user password
[4:06] <UnaClocker> And if not?
[4:06] <Gordio> sudo may can't be installed
[4:07] <UnaClocker> It gets the job done on a Pi..
[4:07] <Gordio> and sudo - execute program with 'root' or given user '-u my_username' previlegies
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[4:08] <Gordio> on ArchLinux when type sudo passwn root you can see: bash: command not found: sudo
[4:08] <Gordio> if you in user, and need execute as root: su
[4:09] <Gordio> but better sudo, yes.
[4:09] <Gordio> su - ask root password, sudo - user;
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[4:14] <UnaClocker> Down to one light... 20 minutes to the 8 hour mark.. WooHoo
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[4:19] <SwK> UnaClocker: anker batteries ftw
[4:19] <SwK> this thing litterally lasts so long I'm gonna have to write a cron job that updates a database once a minute to see how long it lasts cause I'll forget to keep an eye on it
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[4:23] <UnaClocker> Yeah, I was thinking I might have to do that with this, but looks like it'll be down before I go to bed.
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[4:37] <UnaClocker> There we go.. Just cracked 8 hours.. One LED left, it's not even blinking yet.. I think it'll hit 9 hours..
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[4:40] <Gordio> code.gordio.pp.ua/tmux-sb
[4:40] <Gordio> Status Bar programm for tmux ;)
[4:40] <Gordio> *simple
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[5:02] <UnaClocker> No battery lights left.. Eee gads.
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[5:12] <UnaClocker> Gimp runs pretty alright on the Pi..
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[5:18] <Torikun> yo
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[5:28] <shiftplusone> score https://dl.dropbox.com/u/175702/C64-games.jpg =D
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[5:29] <shiftplusone> datasette should arrive tomorrow and then the ripping begins. =D
[5:30] * Xark was quite pleased when he recently tried the new single-window GIMP interface. Finally. :)
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[6:40] <SwK> hey who runs the raspbian repo's?
[6:41] <shiftplusone> mpthomson and plugwash, I would imagine.
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[6:48] <SwK> I wonder if they are as tough about packages as debian
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[6:53] <Xark> SwK: My understanding is they track Debian as closely as possible (only changing things RPi needs different).
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[6:54] <SwK> Xark: yeah we're dealing with crap trying to get FreeSWITCH into debian now, but there are issues due to in-tree libs
[6:55] <SwK> we have several that are either defacto forks or where the authors keep us ahead of their official releases so its a pain in the arse as they say
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[6:59] <turtleJP> hello everyone
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[6:59] <shiftplusone> ahoy
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[7:05] <sparr> I've got some LED strips that require serial data at a specific clock speed (weird bit lengths at 800kHz, or normal bits at 4MHz) with no interruptions during a ~80kbit transmission. Can an RPi do that?
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[7:12] <Xark> sparr: Depends what OS is running (or not running) I think. :)
[7:13] <sparr> Xark: for which OS is the answer yes? I'm not opposed to doing this on the bare metal, but I'd prefer not to.
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[7:14] <Xark> sparr: Well, my understanding is Linux can easily "steal" 10ms or so. Now maybe you can avoid this to some extend with priorities, but I think not fully. If you add a kernel module, then you may have more flexibility (but even there I think USB imposes frequent interrupt requirements).
[7:15] <sparr> I would need to guarantee no interrupts of transmission for a tenth of a second, repeatedly
[7:15] <Xark> sparr: Of course bare metal, you don't have these issues (but you may as well use Teensy 3.0 without networking etc.)
[7:15] <sparr> Which is not to say that no interrupts can fire... if there's a large enough serial buffer
[7:15] <sparr> yeah, bare metal gives up a lot of the reasons I'd want to use RPi
[7:15] <Xark> sparr: That may be doable.
[7:15] <Xark> sparr: However, I think USB requires 8000hz...
[7:16] <Xark> (or something stupid).
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[7:16] <Xark> 8Khz interrupt that is. I believe it has been moved to FIRQ (but still, a lot of interrupts).
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[8:02] <Macer> so you have to have a min of 16MB for video
[8:02] <Macer> ?
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[8:02] <Macer> i was hoping to drop it down to like 1MB heh
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[8:56] <aalex> hello
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[8:57] <aalex> When I try to play audio files, (using aplay, for example) I only hear a click and the beginning, and another one at the end of the file. (using ALSA and the 3.5mm audio jack)
[8:58] <aalex> What am I doing wrong? It used to work. I use Raspbian, from the SD card I bought with it installed.
[8:58] <aalex> Just got it a week ago.
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[9:00] <shiftplusone> Nothing
[9:00] <shiftplusone> It's just the lack of proper audio circuitry
[9:00] <aalex> So, it clicks like that for everyone? What can I do to fix it? Oh...
[9:01] <shiftplusone> If you want quality audio, you have to use hdmi.
[9:01] <aalex> So I should not try to use it to play audio and video files, eh?
[9:01] <shiftplusone> If it bothers you that much, probably not. You can use crossfade to help a little though
[9:01] <aalex> hmm, but I don't have a HDMI to audio converter, nor do I have a TV that takes HDMI
[9:01] <aalex> I don't hear the sound files being played!
[9:02] <shiftplusone> Oh, you don't hear audio at all!?
[9:02] <aalex> Just the clicks... I used to be able to hear the files.
[9:02] <aalex> no
[9:02] <shiftplusone> Yeah, that's not normal, heh
[9:02] <aalex> Maybe the level is mute.
[9:02] <aalex> alsamixer doesn't quite work, either.
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[9:04] <Gordio> aalex, if I not wronk. Exist option for run audio always
[9:04] <Gordio> this play 1 click (when start)
[9:05] <aalex> Gordio, hmm, I would like to know how.
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[9:05] <aalex> still, shiftplusone, maybe it's just the audio level that is mute?
[9:06] <shiftplusone> No idea, I haven't run accross this before.
[9:06] <aalex> shiftplusone, ah! that was it. alsamixer made the job. ouf
[9:06] <shiftplusone> yay
[9:08] <aalex> lol
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[9:38] <Davespice> aDro: did you fix your problems in the end?
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[10:09] <dape8708> guys, do you think a Sanyo Eneloop Mobile Booster would keep my RPi up without problems ? http://www.eneloop.info/eneloop-products/mobile-booster.html
[10:09] <dape8708> Output: 2 x 500mA or 1 x 1A for the 5000 mah one..
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[10:13] <Gordio> dape8708, depend on used hardwares
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[10:13] <dape8708> Gordio, just the Rpi, nothing attached
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[10:16] <Gordio> dape8708, use Ethernet?
[10:17] <Gordio> For me: 500mA enought for 1 RPi withoud devices
[10:18] <Gordio> But power devices various.
[10:18] <dape8708> Gordio, yes, one of my rpis is on the ethernet, its a small arch server
[10:19] <dape8708> i found another mobile pack "Power Bank" with 4800 mah and 1,5A on the usbs (2) but i trust more sanyo than that brand
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[10:28] <SwK> Anker batteries FTW! 10000 mAh @ 3A output
[10:29] <SwK> dape8708: ^^ thats what I have??? estimated run time with accessories is like 15+ hours runtime, w/out is estimated to be like like 25+ hours
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[10:32] <dape8708> nice, unfortunately too few batt packs available in my country, i don't want to order from outside
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[10:34] <SwK> not sure where you are, but I ordered one off amazon for about $40 USD
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[10:36] <dape8708> Romania, im kindof tired to wait at customs and bribe them
[10:37] <SwK> anyone play with portaudio on raspbian?
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[10:37] <dape8708> pulseaudio you mean?
[10:37] <SwK> no I mean portaudio
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[10:38] <SwK> portaudio is a portable audio library that works on multiple platforms
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[10:39] <dape8708> ehm.. this could work: http://dx.com/p/cute-android-robot-style-4000mah-emergency-battery-pack-w-adapters-for-cell-phone-more-blue-113220
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[12:18] <dape8708> Davespice, kindof annoying the official forum buttons for Reset and Submit, i think they have reverted position
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[12:18] <Davespice> sorry?
[12:19] <Davespice> whats this about?
[12:19] <Davespice> *scratching head*
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[12:23] <dape8708> ah, i just made an account on the rpi official forums, went to my profile, clicked a lot and then.. clicked Reset , the button being where Submit or OK should be :))
[12:23] <dape8708> usability problem i guess
[12:23] <bebraw> kinda soon for April fools
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[12:26] <Davespice> oh right...
[12:27] <dape8708> this is a nice forum theme - raspite
[12:27] <Davespice> okay so the submit button was not where you kind of expected it to be?
[12:27] <Davespice> what browser?
[12:27] <dape8708> hehe, yeah, the default theme has them right but the raspite theme has reset in the right, submit on the far left, Chrome on Fedora
[12:28] <Davespice> okay, can you do a post about it here? http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=25
[12:28] <Davespice> and include a screen shot?
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[12:28] <dape8708> sure, thanks for pointing
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[12:33] <dape8708> meh, sent the post but cannot see it
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[12:34] <dape8708> (was my first post..)
[12:37] <Davespice> stand by I'll approve it
[12:37] <Davespice> check now
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[12:39] <dape8708> maybe i have twisted habbits but i really went right to click for submitting personal prefferences
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[12:41] <dr_willis> Hmm. just a little overclocking.. really helps the pi be a bit snappier
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[12:47] <azk> how much?
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[12:50] <LilSnoop4> hi, i have the rev 2 pi board. i don't want to use any other device plugged into the usb ports on it but my usb wifi dongle. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005CLMJLU/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00
[12:50] <LilSnoop4> i noticed that when this is plugged in and i am viewing certain addon's the raspberry pi reboots. i was to to get a usb hub or short out the polyfuse. if i short out the polyfuse would that fix the reboot issue when the wifi dongle is plugged in.
[12:50] <LilSnoop4> thanks!
[12:52] <nid0> you just need a better power supply most likely
[12:52] <nid0> that dongle does not need a separate powered hub or shorted polyfuses
[12:53] <RaTTuS|BIG> ^WHS
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[12:55] <LilSnoop4> nid0 i have tried my ipad source and this on here http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005CG2ATQ/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00 and when watching addon's in xbmc the raspberry pi reboots
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[12:57] <dr_willis> I just went 2 steps up in overlocking - to whatever the rasp-config script suggested. ;) seems the desktop is a bit snappier now.
[12:58] <dr_willis> hmm. arent wifi dongles supposed to sort of throttle down/reduce broadcast power on demand. so not need as much power at times?
[12:59] <dr_willis> ive basically heard in here to always use a powered usb hub with a wifi dongle.
[13:00] <nid0> the little realtek nano dongles draw low enough power that it's not needed at all
[13:00] <dr_willis> I got a little bitty dongle also.. but not tried it yet.. got it on sale for $5
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[13:01] <dr_willis> since the router is in the same room. :) i bet i could get by with it.
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[13:04] <LilSnoop4> nid0 so is there a power supply you would recommend for me or should i get this other nano one you speak of?
[13:05] <nid0> LilSnoop4: your adaptor already is one of those
[13:06] <LilSnoop4> i followed the guide when i purchased just not sure why its rebooting
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[13:07] <LilSnoop4> i checked th compatibiliy list when i ordered all the parts. i rather not have to get a usb hub for the wifi dongle i have no plans on installing anything else usb
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[13:23] <dr_willis> power supply always seems to be a bit of a tossup. seen others in here with crashing issues. till they upgraded their PS.
[13:26] <LilSnoop4> the two i tried people suggest. the ipad 2 and http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005CG2ATQ/ref=oh_details_o03_s00_i00 <---- a guys left a review on amazon saying workings great with pi and all. is there another one you could recommend? thanks
[13:31] <dr_willis> I just use one from my kindle fire. and some i got for phones travelocity brand. they are like 1.8A i belive
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[13:31] <dr_willis> but currently this pi is my znc server. and its running from a powered usb hub. ;)
[13:31] <dr_willis> its been stable so far. 5+ days uptime. but its not doing a lot of fancy stuff
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[13:46] <tobier> hello everyone
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[13:50] <pronto> hi
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[13:53] <Mortvert> Oh hi.
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[13:54] <pronto> http://vps3.pronto185.com/ i love my overly horribad webcams xD
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[13:59] <Mortvert> should i cancel my order with RS or not..?
[14:00] <pronto> Mortvert: context?
[14:00] <yaMatt> Mortvert, why would you?
[14:00] <Mortvert> Expected despatch time: 1 week
[14:00] <Mortvert> 3 week in: nothing.
[14:00] * Mortvert flips all tables in vincity
[14:00] <pronto> have you contacted them?
[14:00] <Mortvert> Tried, two times.
[14:00] <Mortvert> No reply.
[14:00] <pronto> i'd cancle it then
[14:01] <pronto> btw, who is 'RS' ?
[14:01] <Mortvert> http://authenticate.rsdelivers.com/
[14:01] <enthusi> by now you get sealed new ones from ebay-resellers or amazon
[14:01] <enthusi> at least when you're outside the UK thats not much more expensive
[14:01] <Mortvert> i live in europe.
[14:02] <pronto> https://www.mcmelectronics.com/ << i got my Pi from them, had a slight mix up , b ut they fixed it (ordered two, but only one was shipped, the second should be here today)
[14:02] <yaMatt> Farnell do seem to be consistently more reliable with their deliveries than RS
[14:02] <Mortvert> what about modmypi?
[14:03] <Mortvert> a farnell doesn't sell to poland directly
[14:03] <Mortvert> as*
[14:03] <enthusi> ebay number: 121056515077
[14:03] <Mortvert> they use very pricey retailer
[14:03] <enthusi> got one of those in germany
[14:03] <enthusi> arrived 2 days after purchase
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[14:04] <pronto> http://vps3.pronto185.com/cam/cam.jpeg wewt, starting to acutatly look like a photo now (playing with v4l2 settings for that cam)
[14:04] <Mortvert> I'll wait until i dunno, friday?
[14:04] <Mortvert> Then cancel my order :|
[14:04] <pronto> i'd contact them again
[14:04] <pronto> you try calling?
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[14:04] <Mortvert> can't find phone #
[14:04] <pronto> ...what
[14:04] <pronto> i'd never order from an online retailer with out a phone number to call
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[14:05] <dape8708> cancel it Mortvert and get another one
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[14:08] <Mortvert> mkay, cancelled
[14:08] <Mortvert> So, where do i buy it from?
[14:08] <Mortvert> ModMyPi?
[14:08] <axion> e14
[14:08] <Mortvert> e14 uses way more pricey retailer so no
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[14:08] <axion> got mine for $40 shipping in less than a week
[14:08] <Mortvert> (instead of $35+shipping i'd pay like $45+shipping)
[14:09] <axion> to each his own
[14:11] <dape8708> i got it in 24h with 80 usd (pi + case + charger)
[14:11] <dape8708> i got two, from two retailers in my country :P
[14:11] <Mortvert> It seems for the price at retailer
[14:11] <Mortvert> i can buy pi+case at modmypi
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[14:19] <axion> $45+shipping is retail. i did not pay that much from the official distributor
[14:19] <axion> and got it in less than a week
[14:19] <axion> twice at that
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[14:48] <pecorade> Hi.
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[14:51] <megaproxy> i have a problem with my pi...
[14:51] <megaproxy> it stops recognising the keyboard once i change any setting in raspi-config
[14:51] <megaproxy> have to reboot to get it working again..
[14:55] <mjr> that's a rather curious problem (yeah, not helping)
[14:56] <mjr> removing and reattaching it doesn't work?
[14:56] <megaproxy> nope :(
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[14:59] <megaproxy> i think its the sd card as its happened on 2 pi's now
[15:00] <megaproxy> the keyboard itself is fine, works on pc's etc
[15:00] <weltall> using an usb self powered hub?
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[15:01] <megaproxy> plugged right into the pi
[15:01] <megaproxy> ill try dig up another ssd
[15:01] <megaproxy> uh
[15:01] <mjr> it's of course possible that the card is weirdly corrupt. Though that would be a pretty weird symtom of it.
[15:01] <megaproxy> sd*
[15:01] <megaproxy> yea i dont get it :(
[15:01] <megaproxy> i have re-imaged a few times too
[15:02] <weltall> what about lack of enough power?
[15:02] <megaproxy> never had the issue before, using the same power source etcetc
[15:04] <mjr> and it would still be a pretty weird symtom, being that spesific about when the problem occurs
[15:04] <mjr> I don't think raspi-config does anything particular to suddenly drain more power?
[15:04] <pronto> http://dx.com/p/vivid-robot-style-usb-2-0-4-port-hub-with-usb-cable-green-72563 omg awesome
[15:05] <megaproxy> mjr, i was thinking, because it writes to the sd card, maybe it derps
[15:06] <mjr> I like how the host cable sticks up his bum
[15:07] <weltall> yeah that's what i was thinking too
[15:08] <mjr> which one ;) but yeah, ok
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[15:11] <Mortvert> GAHHHH so mad at rs-components
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[15:11] <megaproxy> ??
[15:12] <megaproxy> looks like it was the SD card
[15:12] <megaproxy> this one seems to be working fine
[15:12] <megaproxy> how very odd!
[15:12] <Davespice> Mortvert: whats wrong?
[15:12] <mjr> megaproxy, well, good that it's sorted then anyway
[15:12] <Mortvert> Davespice - had to cancel my order.
[15:12] <Davespice> how come?
[15:12] <Davespice> non delivery?
[15:12] <Mortvert> They're unresponsive.
[15:13] <Mortvert> Expected despatch time was a week
[15:13] <Mortvert> after 3 weeks, not even a despatch mail
[15:13] <Davespice> fair enough I guess, go for Farnell then
[15:13] <Davespice> or you could get one from a Maplin
[15:13] <Davespice> if in the UK...
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[15:14] <Mortvert> poland
[15:15] <Mortvert> Davespice - do you know if modmypi is trustworthy?
[15:16] <Davespice> never used them actually
[15:16] <Davespice> I've used Farnell twice though
[15:16] <Davespice> and RS once for that matter, but hey <shrug>
[15:16] <Mortvert> farnell uses a retailer
[15:16] <Davespice> element 14 yeah
[15:16] <Mortvert> Not in poland.
[15:16] <Mortvert> :v
[15:17] <Mortvert> kamiami
[15:17] <Davespice> oh really?
[15:17] <Davespice> right okay
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[15:18] <Mortvert> http://www.kamami.pl/index.php?ukey=product&productID=196694
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[15:18] <Mortvert> costs 189 pln
[15:18] <Mortvert> where as i can buy it from modmypi for 160~
[15:18] <neilr> Mortvert: I've had some stuff from ModMyPi in the past - they seem like a good bunch.
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[15:21] <Viper-7> i waited over a month for my pi from RS
[15:21] <Viper-7> showed up 3 working days after calling and hassling them out
[15:21] <Viper-7> funny how that works
[15:21] <pronto> wow, note toself: dont order from them
[15:21] <megaproxy> ah pants, it happened again
[15:22] <megaproxy> now im questioning if this is the same USB cable..
[15:22] <megaproxy> it may be a cheap one from china that dosent work..
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[15:23] <Mortvert> Viper-7 - calling them?
[15:23] <Mortvert> Is there a number i can call?
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[15:25] <Mortvert> Viper-7?
[15:25] <megaproxy> it was the power!
[15:25] <megaproxy> what a pain
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[15:26] <Viper-7> Mortvert: i went to the website, clicked help and read the `contact us` bit ... :/
[15:26] <Viper-7> its region specific
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[15:28] <Mortvert> Viper-7 - i don't see the phone # anywhere
[15:28] <Viper-7> poland?
[15:28] <Viper-7> http://pl.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=help
[15:28] <Viper-7> Kontakt:
[15:28] <Viper-7> E-mail: service@rspoland.com
[15:28] <Viper-7> Telefon: (22) 30 70 548
[15:28] <Viper-7> od pon. do pt. w godzinach od 8:00 do 18:00
[15:28] <Viper-7> Faks: (22) 30 70 549
[15:28] <Viper-7> looks pretty straight forward to me..
[15:29] <Mortvert> didn't look at polish page... >_.
[15:32] <megaproxy> niiiice
[15:32] <megaproxy> got a call flwo monitor set up on pi#4
[15:32] <megaproxy> (ive got 6 tv's to use :D)
[15:32] <megaproxy> i love work.
[15:33] <Mortvert> polish RS doesn't know anything about UK RS
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[15:37] <IT_Sean> Morning
[15:37] <Mortvert> Good Afternoon,
[15:37] <Mortvert> Apologies for the delayed response to your query, but as your order has been taken for dispatch I???m afraid we are unable to cancel it. What we can ask is that you either refuse delivery when your order reaches you or fill out our returns form from the link below and return your order to us, we can then process your refund.
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[15:37] <Mortvert> NGH- SEND ME THE ****'ING DESPATCH MAIL THEn
[15:37] <Mortvert> /rage
[15:38] <Mortvert> protip: AVOID rs-components at all costs.
[15:38] <megaproxy> i got all my pi's through them
[15:38] <megaproxy> without issue
[15:39] <osfameron> Farnell seem much more clued up, by all accounts
[15:39] <TomWij> protip: Don't cancel at despatch time.
[15:39] <DDave> Mortvert, RS-components was OK for me
[15:39] <DDave> Yep, more like this ^
[15:39] <Mortvert> TomWij - i didn't know that it was despatched
[15:40] <Mortvert> since they never sent me a message
[15:40] <DDave> Mortvert, I sent them an email and got a reply within 2 days
[15:40] <DDave> (Because my email wasnt sent either)
[15:40] <Mortvert> I sent them one mail, waited 4 days, sent another one. no reply.
[15:40] <Mortvert> Got a instant reply just now when i tried to cancel my order
[15:41] <Viper-7> they dont do despatch notifications for pis apparently
[15:41] <Mortvert> Some people get despatch notifications apperently
[15:41] <TomWij> Mortvert: High chance it's part of the next despatch and your RPi is in a queue, would be unreasonable to find your RPi between and remove it from the queue.
[15:41] <Viper-7> i got told every excuse under the sun
[15:41] <JakeSays> will a usb port on a PC provide enough power to run a pi?
[15:41] <dr_willis> JakeSays: official word on that is No.
[15:42] <Viper-7> JakeSays: depends on the usb port
[15:42] <Mortvert> TomWij - read the thing i pasted.
[15:42] <Mortvert> They can't cancel it now
[15:42] <Mortvert> :V
[15:42] <dr_willis> JakeSays: but i imagine it depends. ;)
[15:42] <Mortvert> Oh well, i'll wait then.
[15:42] <dr_willis> JakeSays: i got some usb ports on my laptop that are 'always' powered up. ran a pi from them.
[15:43] <JakeSays> dr_willis: this is a desktop
[15:43] <Viper-7> JakeSays: the pi draws more power than the usb spec allows, but the spec also allows for a device to `upgrade` to a higher current level - many motherboards dont bother with this logic, and just allow the full current level to the port at all times
[15:43] <TomWij> Mortvert: Yeah, it's what I said. If it now takes a week for you to get your despatch mail you should get angry at them. But I just kind of feel that the weekend is causing a delay here, they probably don't work on Sunday.
[15:43] <Viper-7> its been the case on every pc ive used, but theyve all been higher end (at least i7s, if not xeons)
[15:43] <Mortvert> TomWij - i ordered 3 weeks ago
[15:43] <dr_willis> JakeSays: as we said.. it depends.
[15:43] <Mortvert> well, 2 weeks, it's 2 days short of 3
[15:43] <dr_willis> JakeSays: try it and see.. but i would reccomend a decent power supply
[15:43] <JakeSays> Viper-7: ah ok. well, this is a beefy box, so i'll just give it a try and see.
[15:44] <JakeSays> dr_willis: yeah i have a good power supply, but forgot it :(
[15:44] <Mortvert> TomWij - that's why i tried to cancel the order.
[15:44] <Viper-7> JakeSays: another trick is to use a usb hub, powered or unpowered, which will communicate with the pc and negotiate that higher current allowance for you
[15:44] <TomWij> Mortvert: Hmm, I see, they're at least half a week late then. Do they still do planning tables on the forum?
[15:44] <dr_willis> JakeSays: since most of my phone supplies work. ;) i got a half dozen power supplies.. and phone backup batteries
[15:44] <Viper-7> then just have only the pi connected to the hub
[15:44] <Mortvert> TomWij - last one is from december
[15:45] <Viper-7> if you have a powered hub then its irrelevant :P or yeah, any usb style 5v power port like phone chargers / etc work too
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[15:45] <dr_willis> Yea - i recall somthing weird about the pis usb power port.. its possible pcs may not detect any device on it. and could shut down power. (i saw that mentioned somewhere)
[15:45] <Viper-7> the pis usb power port has no data pins
[15:45] <Mortvert> not always
[15:45] <Viper-7> it cant negotiate anything
[15:45] <Mortvert> it just draws power
[15:46] <Viper-7> usb spec says thats fine, but only up to like 150ma or something
[15:46] <Viper-7> a device must negotiate to get up to 1A in usb 2
[15:46] <nid0> almost no pc usb ports abide by the limit for non negotiated power
[15:46] <Mortvert> Viper-7 - i don't think anyone follows them
[15:46] <Mortvert> my cooling pad wouldn't work if it didn't get 1A
[15:47] <mjr> no, up to 500mA in usb 2
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[15:47] <Mortvert> or however much it needs to spin the fan fast enough
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[15:48] <JakeSays> hmm. it appears my power strip has builtin USB poer
[15:48] <JakeSays> *power
[15:48] <dr_willis> JakeSays: :) got a few of those also.. handy all the places you find USB power ports these days
[15:48] <dr_willis> they got wall outlets now with usb power ports on them as well
[15:49] <Mortvert> Someone i know made a ethernet killer once.
[15:49] <Viper-7> http://www.goodluckbuy.com/dc-dc-solar-boost-step-up-adjustable-power-converter-module-1.html
[15:49] <Viper-7> run your pi off a coin cell :P
[15:49] <Viper-7> (for about 2 minutes :D)
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[15:50] <Mortvert> (aka. main voltage pinned into ethernet power cable, just to see what happens when you apply 230v into ethernet port)
[15:50] <Mortvert> boy, some spectacular fireworks
[15:50] <dr_willis> just 230v ? :)
[15:50] <Viper-7> Mortvert: etherkiller, BOFH, one of the oldest tricks in the book (literally) :P
[15:50] <dr_willis> I work in a factory.. :)
[15:50] <Mortvert> Viper-7 - yep.
[15:51] <Mortvert> But he was bored enough to actually build one
[15:51] <dr_willis> we got stuff that does high voltage.. you dont even want to sit any electronics near.
[15:51] <Viper-7> the better one was patching into the rs232 and rs485 ports throughout the building >:D
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[15:55] <Viper-7> 10-bit software PWM
[15:55] <Viper-7> pi powah :D
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[16:44] <Mortvert> Ahahahahah oh wow
[16:44] <IT_Sean> ?
[16:44] <Mortvert> I just got like 5 letters in my mail.
[16:44] <Mortvert> Along with the pi
[16:44] <Mortvert> i made the refund request 3 hours ago
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[16:44] <Mortvert> they replied to both of my mails
[16:44] <Mortvert> package was sent week ago, came in today
[16:45] <IT_Sean> Ok... so... it took a week to get to you.
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[16:45] <IT_Sean> That's sort of how snailmail works,
[16:45] <Mortvert> three weeks basically
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[16:45] <dape> Mortvert you mean you really have it in your hands?
[16:45] <IT_Sean> It takes time to actually move items from Point A to Point B.
[16:45] <Mortvert> dape - yeah, holding it right now
[16:45] <dape> kiss it.
[16:45] <Mortvert> no way.
[16:45] <IT_Sean> dape: that voids the warranty.
[16:46] <dape> put the case on it and then kiss it softly and hug it
[16:46] <Mortvert> i have something marked with a marker on my board. is it normal?
[16:46] <dape> post a pic
[16:46] <IT_Sean> define "something"
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[16:47] <Mortvert> IT_Sean - hell if i know. It looks like scribbled "IS"
[16:47] <dape> Mortvert phone pic, dropbox upload, share link to us
[16:47] <Mortvert> over CE FC signs
[16:47] <IT_Sean> could be a QC check mark
[16:47] <dape> Quality Check
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[16:47] <IT_Sean> That's wot i said.
[16:48] <Mortvert> let me see
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[16:49] <dape> dont plug it right away, let it come to room temp
[16:49] <Mortvert> I know
[16:49] <Mortvert> it won't be nice otherwise
[16:49] <Mortvert> (ain't got charger anyway
[16:49] <Mortvert> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4604186/Zdj%C4%99cie0060.jpg
[16:49] <factor> What is the commandline audio player for rasp
[16:49] <dape> weird
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[16:50] <dape> mine doesn't have that, is it.. RS ?
[16:50] <TAFB_afk> Mortvert: you need SLR camera :)
[16:51] <Mortvert> dape - yeah, rs.
[16:51] <Mortvert> TAFB_afk - a what?
[16:51] <Mortvert> It was made using a phone. with bad light.
[16:51] <dape> i mean is that an R and a S ?
[16:51] <TAFB_afk> a better camera ;)
[16:51] <megaproxy> is that camera a patato?
[16:51] <IT_Sean> Mortvert: you need to learn how to focus a macro shot.
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[16:51] <IT_Sean> All we can see is a greasy schmere
[16:51] <Mortvert> IT_Sean - this phone doesn't have focus
[16:51] <TAFB_afk> http://ecuflashking.com/2012-12-06-RaspberryPi/2012-12-20-test_raspberrypi_closeup.png
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[16:51] <Mortvert> this was the best i could do.
[16:52] <IT_Sean> you need a proepr camera, then, do take stuff up that close. 'cause there is no way that photo could be any blurrier. :p
[16:52] <dape> holy mother of rendering a 24 mpix jpg
[16:52] <IT_Sean> I hear ya, dude. Just can't really tell what that is even supposed to look like.
[16:52] <Mortvert> oh, the first photo WAS blurrier
[16:52] <Mortvert> IT_Sean - i can't either.
[16:52] <TAFB_afk> blurrier? how is that possible :)
[16:52] <Mortvert> pixels. lots of them
[16:52] <IT_Sean> If that photo were any blurrier, you'd be able to see into the future. :p
[16:53] <neilr> It's a quantum effect. Heisenberg photography.
[16:53] <TAFB_afk> Someone posted a picture of their motorcycle on my facebook, it was terrible quality! I asked them "What did you take that with, a gameboy?" and they said iPhone! lol
[16:53] <TAFB_afk> I'm like WHAT iPhone? 1.0?
[16:53] <TAFB_afk> and they said YEP!
[16:54] <TAFB_afk> lol
[16:54] <IT_Sean> lol
[16:54] <IT_Sean> The camera on the iPhone 4 was pretty good, when i had one of those.
[16:54] <IT_Sean> For a phone camera, of course.
[16:54] <IT_Sean> The camera on my current phone is horrid.
[16:54] <dape> what phone
[16:54] <TAFB_afk> Yeah, iPhone 4 and up are great cameras, same with Samsung Galaxy 3, smokin camera.
[16:55] <IT_Sean> mine? LG GT540
[16:55] <TAFB_afk> I have a BlackBerry Curve something right now, not the worst camera I've ever seen, but for sure not very good.
[16:55] <IT_Sean> camera in it is complete rubbish.
[16:55] <megaproxy> why do you have a BB
[16:55] <dape> yes, state your phone people so we can make proper comparisions :P
[16:55] <TAFB_afk> my work pays for it. Can't use iPhone on my cellular provider (no support)
[16:55] <megaproxy> ah well fair enough
[16:55] <dape> i'm actually satisfied of my htc desire x
[16:55] <megaproxy> id never get a BB On my own accord
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[16:56] <TAFB_afk> I'm about ready to tell my work to stuff it with this blackberry crap and get me an andriod phone. If they will stilly pay my monthly I'll do it!
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[16:57] <Mortvert> !
[16:57] <TAFB_afk> Looks like best phones I can use on my mobile network are Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (not really a phone, lol), Samsung Galaxy S3, LG Optimus 4X HD, Sony Experia Ion.
[16:57] <IT_Sean> Just don't get a cheap one with a tiny screen
[16:57] <Mortvert> my rpi works off my laptop USB port
[16:57] * IT_Sean has about had it with this crapphone
[16:58] <TAFB_afk> Mortvert: for now ;)
[16:58] <dape> haha, nice Mortvert
[16:58] <Mortvert> or not
[16:58] <Mortvert> it went throught boot
[16:58] <dape> and
[16:58] <Mortvert> and TV started flashing
[16:58] <TAFB_afk> once it fires up network and HDMI she'll die
[16:58] <TAFB_afk> if you bypass/bridge polyfuse F3 it might run off your laptop
[16:59] <dape> try a arch linux, you don't need video output or keyboard, it will dhcp and start sshd
[16:59] <TAFB_afk> and use a super high quality microUSB cable too: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5458&seq=1&format=2
[16:59] <Mortvert> i ain't bypassing anything
[16:59] <IT_Sean> your laptop probably isn't supplying enough powah for it.
[16:59] <mgottschlag> what does bridging the fuse have to do with power usage?
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[17:00] <TAFB_afk> mgottschlag: when the voltage is low the 3.3v regulator tries to draw too much current causing a large voltage drop across F3. If you bridge the poly fuse the regulator gets all the voltage and current available, and runs on much crappier supplies.
[17:00] <mgottschlag> ah
[17:01] <Mortvert> one downside of this TB
[17:01] <Mortvert> TV
[17:01] <Mortvert> image is coming out grayscale O_o
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[17:01] <IT_Sean> The ployfuse is generally considered to be "crap" and bypassing it is generally considered to be "A Good Idea" :p
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[17:02] <dape> btw, a charger marked 5.3V should be okay?
[17:03] <Mortvert> i wonder why i'm getting grayscale image
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[17:11] <bebraw> ntsc vs. pal perhaps
[17:11] <bebraw> if you aren't in a country using ntsc, set sdtv_mode=2
[17:11] <bebraw> maybe helps
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[17:14] * aDro is an uninterruptible power supply
[17:15] <osfameron> that's nice
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[17:17] <Viper-7> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1929
[17:17] <Viper-7> i dont get it
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[17:18] <Viper-7> i have P5 and P6, i dont have usb port polyfuses, and its i2c-1 exposed on the gpio header, which all screams rpi version 2
[17:18] <Viper-7> yet cat /proc/cpuinfo says i have a revision 1.0
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[17:19] <Viper-7> CPU revision : 7
[17:19] <Viper-7> Hardware : BCM2708
[17:19] <Viper-7> Revision : 0002
[17:19] <Viper-7> code 2 == Model B Revision 1.0
[17:22] <TomWij> Viper-7: Revision: 000f here.
[17:22] <TomWij> But can't you tell by the amount of memory?
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[17:23] <Viper-7> 256mb
[17:23] <TomWij> Know your memory split, then do `free` and look at what matches Mem and Total.
[17:23] <TomWij> Yeah, that's indeed Revision 1.0.
[17:24] <Viper-7> so why is it a revision 2 pcb? heh
[17:25] <neilr> I've got a rev.1 that announces itself as a rev.2 - which isn't normally a problem, but a pain when I'm twiddling with the GPIO pins as I need to bodge things to get it to work correctly.
[17:26] <IT_Sean> o_O
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[17:45] <petersaints> A good use for my Pi is using it as a Quasse Core server that I can connect to from my laptop on the go: http://bugs.quassel-irc.org/projects/quassel-irc/wiki
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[17:48] <Mortvert> this is wierd
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[17:48] <Mortvert> after my rpi does some of the boot process - my tv (i use rca) starts to flash
[17:48] <Mortvert> Is it wrong HZ maybe?
[17:52] <djazz> just reinstalled Arch on my pi.. now hid keeps logging output into the tty when i connect/disconnect my BT keyboard
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[17:52] <djazz> how can i hide those messages?
[17:54] <djazz> "hid-generic <some numbers>: unknown main item tag 0x0" when connecting
[17:55] <djazz> "power_supply hid-<BT address>-battery: driver failed to report 'capacity' property: 4294967291" when disconnecting
[17:55] <Mortvert> NVM, solved it, i was stupid and didn't enable PAL
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[18:02] <Mortvert> is my pi damaged or what?
[18:02] <Mortvert> OR is this power issue?
[18:02] <Mortvert> it works fine until some time then the image randomly dissapears
[18:02] <Mortvert> I'm using RCA
[18:02] <Mortvert> The charger i've got is 5.0V and 0.7A
[18:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> ^ what else have you got plugged into it - as that will eb enough to power the RPI but nothign else
[18:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> YMMV
[18:04] <Mortvert> keyboard and RCA
[18:04] <Mortvert> it works fine for some time
[18:04] <Mortvert> I'm scared it's damaged ;_;
[18:06] <Laban> Isn't that one of the beauties of rPI, they're cheap, so if you break it's not the end of the world... Usually.
[18:06] <Mortvert> cheap? please.
[18:06] <Mortvert> almost 200 pln ain't heap.
[18:07] <xzr> for a htpc it is
[18:07] <xzr> any case, I think over 1A is recommended?
[18:08] <xzr> I'd test it on another charger, loan one from a friend or something
[18:08] <Gordio> xzr, recomended 5V
[18:08] <Mortvert> ampers, not volts, Gordio.
[18:08] <xzr> ampers and volts Gordio
[18:08] <Gordio> and 0.7A + you devices A
[18:08] <xzr> sense, that made none
[18:08] <Gordio> *For model B
[18:08] <Gordio> Ok seee
[18:09] <Laban> 200 PLN was quite pricy... it's +30%
[18:09] <xzr> yes, minimum required psu always works out perfectly
[18:09] <Gordio> you have power source 5V 1A;
[18:09] <xzr> I have a feeling I
[18:09] <xzr> 'm going to have a rough ride in the world of electronics
[18:09] <Gordio> You connect device 0.5A and see Volts, ok still 5V
[18:10] <xzr> do carry on
[18:10] <Gordio> Connect new device with 0.5A (total 1A) see volts -> OMG! 4.9V
[18:10] <xzr> and the relevance is
[18:10] <Gordio> hm... and connect new device 0.1A. Oh f**k. work! O_O
[18:11] <Gordio> but 4.7V.
[18:11] * tdy mindblown
[18:11] * djazz is reflashing the SD card, third attempt
[18:11] <xzr> so if I get a 0.1A psu and plug loads of stuff on it, it's gonna work?
[18:12] <Mortvert> how do i check voltage?
[18:12] <djazz> voltmeter?
[18:12] <Gordio> depend on power suplly device
[18:12] <Gordio> if china - i think don't work)
[18:12] <Gordio> But good brends make with reserve
[18:13] <xzr> I've got a datacentre that needs some power supply calculations, would you mind assisting me with that Gordio
[18:13] <Mortvert> it's from samsung phone
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[18:14] <Gordio> xzr, sarcasm? :)
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[18:14] <xzr> never
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[18:15] <Gordio> xzr, I think, me is dab candidate for this. :(
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[18:15] <Gordio> *bad
[18:15] <Gordio> oh need go sleep :D
[18:17] * Gordio work on 0.5A with model B. And all fine.
[18:17] <Gordio> But I connect 1 capacitor (1500mf) and use only simple USB keyboard.
[18:18] <Gordio> Amp meter sey 0.4A for RPi (B) with keyboard when compile :D
[18:19] <Gordio> that is why I think 1A - sufficiently.
[18:20] <DDave> Question: What optimizations should I do to my linux filesystem to preserve SD card life? (like the automatic last-date access on the files)
[18:21] <Gordio> noatime, nodiratime - mount options basic
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[18:21] <Gordio> But better use filesystem for "SSD Devices"
[18:22] <DDave> Give me some keywords that I can look up? (please)
[18:22] <DDave> :)
[18:22] <Mortvert> so you say the pi turning off might be voltage?
[18:23] <Gordio> Mortvert, yes
[18:23] <Mortvert> since it's samsung phone charger
[18:23] <Mortvert> it might be acting wierd
[18:23] <DDave> Not enough voltage
[18:24] <Gordio> if device increas eat Ampers. Power suply "weighed down" Voltage
[18:24] <Mortvert> so it's derping out and just flat out dies. eh?
[18:24] <mjr> the pi is more fussy about the voltage than many other usb powered things, so it's possible :(
[18:24] <Mortvert> i thought i got a dead pi
[18:24] <Gordio> For fix - need find better power suply, or "fix now" sold big capacitor :D
[18:24] <dr_willis> seems some pis are fussyer then others.
[18:24] <Mortvert> Not my chaarger.
[18:25] <IT_Sean> You got a Limited Edition "DerpPi"
[18:25] <IT_Sean> Sounds like a power issue, to me as well.
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[18:25] <DDave> :)
[18:25] <DDave> IT_Sean, what filesystem do you use on your rpi?
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[18:26] <IT_Sean> DDave: I haven't gotten one yet.
[18:26] <DDave> Wait, you don't?
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[18:26] <pronto> wait, IT_Sean you don't have a rpi?
[18:26] <DDave> I must admit that I am baffled....
[18:27] <IT_Sean> Not yet, i don't.
[18:28] <Mortvert> RS sheet says i need 700mA charger
[18:28] <Mortvert> >:|
[18:28] <DDave> isnt the samsung charger exactly 700mA?
[18:28] <Mortvert> yep, exactly
[18:28] <DDave> (where the fuse will blow)
[18:28] <DDave> xD
[18:28] <Mortvert> this really isn't funny
[18:28] <pronto> is there a way to tell how much mA you're getting?
[18:28] <DDave> amperemeter..?
[18:28] <pronto> from the pi itself
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[18:29] <dr_willis> I have samsung phone chargers that are higher then 700mA and some that are lower..
[18:29] <dr_willis> very hard to read small print on the chargers. :0
[18:29] <pronto> i didnt even look at the charger i'm using
[18:29] <pronto> plugged it in and it booted
[18:29] <IT_Sean> I would try a charger capable of more... It is possible that your 700ma charger is not delivering the full 700ma when loaded down.
[18:29] <Mortvert> the one i have is exactly 700mA
[18:29] <Mortvert> It boots, it works for a while
[18:30] <Mortvert> then dies
[18:30] <pronto> been runing two days no
[18:30] <dr_willis> Ive used the 700mA ones here. , right now im using a powered usb hub to powar my pi.
[18:30] <dr_willis> I think i had issues with the 500Ma chargers.
[18:30] <Mortvert> may be the charger.
[18:30] <Mortvert> Or so i hope
[18:30] <Mortvert> I'm really going to be so pissed if it turns out that my pi is damaged
[18:31] <IT_Sean> Mortvert: language please.
[18:31] <IT_Sean> You will be irritated... not urinated.
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[18:32] <DDave> LOL
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[18:33] <Gordio> Mortvert, send me as gift :D
[18:34] <Mortvert> Gordio - lolno.
[18:34] <Gordio> lolyes!
[18:34] <IT_Sean> Send it to me... I'll make sure it's working properly for you.
[18:34] <Gordio> lolon xD
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[18:34] <DDave> Ahw Sean, that is very kind of you
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[18:37] <Mortvert> But still, i wonder how it starts and then dies.
[18:37] <Mortvert> Might be the charger?
[18:38] <Mortvert> Since it can work for SOME time
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[18:42] <FR^2> Mortvert: Same here. Variant B, delivered two weeks ago. My "older" 256MByte variant runs smoothly for weeks without issues.
[18:43] <Mortvert> FR^2 - mine works for like 30 seconds
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[18:44] <Mortvert> Sometimes it boots into the setup screen
[18:44] <Mortvert> then stops responding.
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[18:44] <Mortvert> I'm going to buy another charger tomorrow
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[18:45] <Mortvert> But i'm really worried if i did burn something somehow ;_;
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[18:45] <FR^2> Mortvert: Sometimes 5 minutes, sometimes half an hour...
[18:46] <FR^2> Mortvert: Try another charger, try another sdcard, ...
[18:46] * IT_Sean would bet on it being the charger not delivering the expected 750ma
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[18:47] <Mortvert> 750?
[18:48] <[ill]will> yea this pi was having problems with voltage too http://i.imgur.com/fcYna4w.jpg
[18:48] <Mortvert> ouch
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[18:49] <Mortvert> so 90% it's the charger. :v
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[18:50] <steve_rox> wow first time i saw a pi so badly cooked
[18:51] <steve_rox> what the hell happened to it
[18:51] <[ill]will> i like my pi warm
[18:51] <steve_rox> shoved 24v thu it or something?
[18:51] <[ill]will> we had a pi challenge this weekend @ my hackerspace. someone hooked up the wrong pins to a 110v relay to turn on xmas lights
[18:51] <AndrevS> that pi doesn't look healthy
[18:52] <steve_rox> really?
[18:52] <steve_rox> so 110v does that
[18:52] <steve_rox> fun
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[18:52] <[ill]will> makes a loud cracking sound and a bunch of sparks too
[18:52] <AndrevS> in europe we have 230v ....
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[18:52] <atouk> can't be that bad. C2 didn't blow
[18:52] <steve_rox> looks like its got made in china on it , so its okay for it to explode somewhat ;-)
[18:53] <AndrevS> lol
[18:53] <steve_rox> did the sd explode too?
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[18:53] <[ill]will> sd card didnt make it either , was a little melty
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[18:53] <steve_rox> hehe
[18:53] <IT_Sean> DAMN!
[18:53] <IT_Sean> That thing is NUKED!
[18:53] <IT_Sean> :(
[18:53] <steve_rox> i know wow
[18:53] <IT_Sean> How in the heck did you do that!?
[18:53] <pronto> IT_Sean: language!
[18:54] <steve_rox> supposibly relay ctrl of 110v wrong pins
[18:54] * pronto was kicked from #raspberrypi by IT_Sean
[18:54] <[ill]will> http://i.imgur.com/zbB4ZAL.jpg heres the backside
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[18:54] <IT_Sean> damn.
[18:54] <IT_Sean> poor pi.
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[18:54] <pronto> IT_Sean: rude
[18:55] <[ill]will> riPi
[18:55] <weltall> XD
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[18:55] <steve_rox> wonder if any parts survived
[18:55] <steve_rox> for salvage
[18:55] <[ill]will> i felt bad for him
[18:55] <IT_Sean> probably not
[18:55] <[ill]will> he got the SIRI proxy working with it to control with his iphone
[18:55] <IT_Sean> even the parts that don't look burned are probably damaged internally.
[18:55] <[ill]will> and was gonna go home
[18:55] <SpeedEvil> the USB connector - probably
[18:55] <AndrevS> connectors and pin headers would be fine I suppose
[18:56] <[ill]will> but i told him to stay and make it do a command to the lights he wanted to turn on
[18:56] <IT_Sean> okay... no ACTIVE parts. Some of the passive connectors would probably be okay
[18:56] <steve_rox> it could be a image to show ppl before they play with high voltage on their pi
[18:56] <[ill]will> he proceeeded to hook it up to the wrong power/ground
[18:56] <steve_rox> it could of been much worse
[18:56] <IT_Sean> ouch
[18:56] <[ill]will> the orginal xmas lights had a photosensor that turns on when the lights go off
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[18:57] <[ill]will> he cut that off and hooked up the pi to trigger the light
[18:57] <[ill]will> but wrong pins i guess
[18:57] <steve_rox> the spare sd reader may be handy , they break so easy
[18:57] <steve_rox> thats if it not too melted
[18:58] <[ill]will> my only problem was i ordered a clear cover for mine from ebay china. and the usb/nic faceplate is cut wrong
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[18:59] <dr_willis> ;)
[18:59] <[ill]will> i got mine to recieve commands from gtalk and also read/write to a sqlite db
[18:59] <IT_Sean> sounds like the photosensor was switching 110v... which he then fed through the pi
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[19:00] <steve_rox> eather way its well cooked
[19:01] <IT_Sean> Indeed.
[19:01] <IT_Sean> Properly toasted.
[19:01] <steve_rox> not even the dog would eat it
[19:02] <[ill]will> maybe with peanut butter
[19:02] <scummos> wow 110 V through the pi
[19:03] <scummos> do you have pictures? ;P
[19:03] <IT_Sean> ...
[19:03] <[ill]will> scroll up
[19:03] <IT_Sean> pictures were just posted.
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[19:03] <scummos> I can't I wasn't in the channel :(
[19:03] * IT_Sean saved the pictures for future use
[19:03] <IT_Sean> http://i.imgur.com/zbB4ZAL.jpg
[19:03] <scummos> thanks ;)
[19:03] <steve_rox> i think we all save them, they are shocking
[19:03] <scummos> WOW! ;D
[19:03] <IT_Sean> http://i.imgur.com/fcYna4w.jpg
[19:03] <IT_Sean> ^ that's the topside
[19:04] <scummos> poor little thing xD
[19:04] <IT_Sean> That's what 110Vdc does to a pi. :(
[19:04] <IT_Sean> *Vac
[19:04] <scummos> I like the holes in the LAN chip
[19:04] <scummos> "does it still work?"
[19:04] <IT_Sean> ...
[19:04] <IT_Sean> did you rerally ask that?
[19:05] <scummos> i put it in quotation marks to make the sarcasm just a bit more obvious
[19:05] <steve_rox> rember kids dont play with high voltage :-P
[19:05] <IT_Sean> scummos: it had 110 volts put throug hte GPIO. There are HOLES in chips. Do you THINK it works???
[19:05] <IT_Sean> :p
[19:05] <IT_Sean> Ah, i missed the ""S.
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[19:06] <steve_rox> i assume he got away without injury?
[19:07] <scummos> that would make a good accident report, "I was burnt by an exploding RAM chip"
[19:07] <[ill]will> yea thankfully, the desk didnt fare too well either
[19:07] <[ill]will> i was across the room from him , looked like lightning hit
[19:08] <scummos> haha
[19:08] <scummos> yeah definitely looks like it
[19:08] <DDave> wtfbb
[19:08] <steve_rox> crazy
[19:08] <DDave> whops, sorry!
[19:08] <DDave> (for the language)
[19:10] <steve_rox> think he should of started with trying to control some lower voltage applications first
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[19:12] <[ill]will> yea i told him to try an led first
[19:12] <scummos> s/try/fry/
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[19:14] <steve_rox> even when the utube vids show projects involveing high voltage they have a secondary breaker device on the high power source
[19:14] <steve_rox> im assumeing he dident have one
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[19:15] <scummos> definitely looks like it, yeah
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[19:16] <Mortvert> IT_Sean - hm. if my power supply is bad, should the rpi just freeze?
[19:16] <Mortvert> (the red light doesn't turn off, the entire thing just halts)
[19:17] <IT_Sean> Do you still get video?
[19:17] <Mortvert> no
[19:17] <IT_Sean> Video cuts out?
[19:17] <Mortvert> yep
[19:17] <IT_Sean> could be powah. What's your supply rated at?
[19:17] <Mortvert> 5v 0.7A
[19:17] <IT_Sean> you need moar powah
[19:17] <IT_Sean> get a better supply.
[19:18] <steve_rox> thats 700ma
[19:18] <IT_Sean> The Model B can draw up to 750ma
[19:18] <Mortvert> so it can start then die?
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[19:18] <IT_Sean> pastably
[19:18] <IT_Sean> Is it OC'd?
[19:18] <Mortvert> OC'D?
[19:19] <IT_Sean> It could also be hitting the thermal shutdown
[19:19] <DDave> overclocked
[19:19] <IT_Sean> Overclocked?
[19:19] <dape> he just got it today
[19:19] <chithead> 700mA is the rating of the input fuse, so more than that is not needed
[19:19] <Mortvert> no, it's not
[19:19] <steve_rox> when low power was in my pi it went into a reboot loop
[19:19] <chithead> the voltage drop under load is more important thant the psu rating
[19:19] <Mortvert> but mine doesn't reboot
[19:19] <IT_Sean> Well, it is also possible that your "700ma" supply is unable to deliver 700ma when loaded.
[19:19] <IT_Sean> I would recommend trying a "beefier" supply
[19:19] <Mortvert> i'll buy one tomorrow. :v
[19:20] <Mortvert> (but i managed to get it two times to setup screen somehow)
[19:21] <IT_Sean> I would recommend one capable of 750ma or more, so, even if it cannopt deliver it's full rated capacity, it should run the Pi without issue.
[19:21] <chithead> it is certainly able, but the drop is too much for the pi. there is no guarantee that a 1A or 2A rated supply will work better
[19:21] <chithead> actually a good 700mA supply will be preferable to a cheap 2A one
[19:22] <IT_Sean> true, but, a cheap 1A supply is prefferable to a cheap 700ma one
[19:22] <IT_Sean> :p
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[19:25] <SpeedEvil> cheap supplies can be actively dangerous, to the point of lethality
[19:26] <SpeedEvil> having .5mm of air between input and output is common
[19:26] <IT_Sean> EEK!
[19:26] <SpeedEvil> the standard says more like 5mm
[19:26] <IT_Sean> FZZZTPOP!
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[19:26] <scummos> fortunately my notebook has enough power to serve as a source for the pi ;p
[19:27] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T88ej64aXUM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[19:28] <SpeedEvil> recommended - cheap PSU teardown analysis
[19:28] <SpeedEvil> his channel is also awesome
[19:28] <SpeedEvil> mikeselectricstuff
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[19:30] <shirish> does anybody of any manual or any info. on making your raspberry pi image (.img) file ?
[19:31] <IT_Sean> Use your google-fu, grasshopper.
[19:31] <IT_Sean> There are a fair number of how-tos in the forum.
[19:31] <IT_Sean> as well.
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[19:33] <shirish> IT_Sean: I know. Figuring out stuff on the forum is a pain though :(
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[19:35] <Flipo> shirish: seems pretty clear to me here: http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/311/how-do-i-backup-my-raspberry-pi
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[19:40] <shirish> Flipo: thanx.
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[19:42] <]DMackey[> 5 Hours left : www.kickstarter.com/projects/gcw/gcw-zero-open-source-gaming-handheld
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[19:43] <TAFB_afk> can someone tell me if my cam is working, http://tafb02.click2stream.com
[19:43] <TAFB_afk> i tried to use it as a demo for my customer, only worked on wifi, not mobile :(
[19:44] <gordonDrogon> ]DMackey[, isn't open pandora already an open source games console - why another?
[19:45] <|Jeroen|> seems so
[19:45] <shirish> I didn't get the bit about rsync bit - can somebody explain http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/311/how-do-i-backup-my-raspberry-pi
[19:45] <gordonDrogon> TAFB_afk, I see a pool table and a TV.
[19:46] <|Jeroen|> its fast, can almost follow the movie
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[19:46] <TAFB_afk> gordonDrogon: ok, thanks. Not sure why it's not working on mobile data here :( wonder if they block ports :(
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> TAFB_afk, the player needs flash - maybe the mobile doesn't do flash.
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[19:46] <shirish> I understand using dd and other ways but not rsync but what little I read on the manpage of rsync it is what I need.
[19:46] <TAFB_afk> the phone works when on wifi though
[19:46] <TAFB_afk> just not through mobile network
[19:46] <gordonDrogon> I coudl try it on my phone.
[19:47] <gordonDrogon> then again, it looks like the local 3G tower is offline and I'm on 2G only, so no go.
[19:47] <TAFB_afk> it's only 1mbps stream, I guess 2g can't handle it?
[19:47] <gordonDrogon> shirish, rsync copies files, dd copies entire partitions.
[19:47] <TAFB_afk> My cell phone was getting terrible reception at my customers place, so maybe just not good enough to have speed for stream
[19:47] <]DMackey[> Open Pandora costs a fortune.
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> 2g is 1.4Kb/sec or therabout.
[19:48] <TAFB_afk> lol. that slow? yikes
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[19:48] <]DMackey[> Not really sure what the difference is, I didn;t check.
[19:48] <shirish> gordonDrogon: I got the dd command given there dd if=/dev/sdx of=/path/to/image bs=1M
[19:48] <]DMackey[> TAFB_afk YUP, CAM is working
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[19:49] <shirish> gordonDrogon: Let's say I have 8 GB of hdd space spare and the SD card is also 8 GB.
[19:49] <TAFB> thanks for checking guys, thought it was my router or internet, obviously not :)
[19:49] <]DMackey[> o/
[19:49] <]DMackey[> lol
[19:49] <TAFB> hehe
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> shirish, never use dd on a live filesystem either. it will copy with corruptions.
[19:49] <]DMackey[> WHat are you streaming it thru? Device?
[19:50] <TAFB> IP camera through my Pi with CRTMPSERVER to convert RTSP to RTMP flash h264 compatible :)
[19:50] <]DMackey[> Nice, video is clear and smooth so far.
[19:50] <shirish> gordonDrogon: ah, o.k. so first umount some partition, then make the img. in the partition, correct ?
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> does the convertor use the GPU?
[19:50] <TAFB> yeah, it's a great camera, hardware h264 encode does 99% of the work :)
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> shirish, I don't know - I'm not exactly sure what you're copying from and to.
[19:51] <shirish> gordonDrogon: copying everything including updates from the SD card to my hdd.
[19:51] <TAFB> gordonDrogon: CRTMPSERVER uses just CPU, but it doesn't decode or encode anything, just changes the patcket type. Uses like 6% CPU for 720p HD stream.
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> shirish, and how is the hdd connected to the pi?
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> TAFB, ok. looks good then.
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[19:52] <shirish> gordonDrogon: it's not connected, it's a standard SATA hdd, the SD card is connected through a SD card reader to the comp.
[19:52] <gordonDrogon> shirish, oh, ok. then that dd command you had earler ought to work, but it'll create a huge file, but you can compress it.
[19:53] <shirish> gordonDrogon: huge as in more than 8 GB or just that much ?
[19:53] <gordonDrogon> shirish, exactly the same size as the SD card.
[19:53] <scummos> you should pipe it through gz right away
[19:53] <scummos> dd if=... |gz >
[19:53] <scummos> ...
[19:53] <TAFB> pool game is startin, if you wanna see the cam quality :)
[19:53] <shirish> scummos: if I compress it, till what it would compress ?
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[19:54] <Mortvert> Ugh
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> best to fill the SD with zeros before doing that though: dd if=/dev/zero of=/xxxxx bs=1M then delete the file when the SD card is full.
[19:54] <Mortvert> IT_Sean - people are reporting that they succesfully ran their RPis with the same charger i have
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> however that will destroy any potential wear levelling the SD card might be capable of doing.
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[19:54] <shirish> scummos: I know you can't be exact, just some idea so I know how much compression it might have.
[19:55] <shirish> gordonDrogon: what did you mean by 'however that will destroy any potential wear levelling the SD card might be capable of doing.'
[19:55] <scummos> shirish: if you do what gordonDrogon said, I'd expect about the size of the data you have minus ten percent
[19:55] <scummos> without compression you'll get exactly the whole device
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> shirish, exactly that. I can typ it again if you like.
[19:55] <scummos> shirish: it means it will wear out your SD card
[19:55] <scummos> since it will force writing every block it has
[19:55] <shirish> scummos: ah, crap.
[19:55] <scummos> but meh
[19:55] <Tachyon`> it'd take millions of operations
[19:55] <scummos> yes
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> exactly.
[19:55] <DDave> gordonDrogon, what are your configurations to prevent SD wear?
[19:56] <scummos> if you did it like fifty thousand times then it might matter
[19:56] <gordonDrogon> DDave, none.
[19:56] <scummos> the sdcard manages that afaik
[19:56] <chithead> if the sd card firmware is smart, it will notice that two blocks have the same content and not overwrite
[19:56] <shirish> scummos: lol, then no issues, don't think I'll do that 50k times.
[19:56] <DDave> Then I assume you dubplicate the data periodically?
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[19:56] <gordonDrogon> I do not think SD card firmware is at all smart. I think it could potentially have ONE shot at wear leveling, but that's it.
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[19:57] <chithead> this and wear leveling is the reason why you cannot safely delete anything from flash media
[19:57] <gordonDrogon> DDave, assume what?
[19:57] <chithead> I don't think you can easily defeat the wear leveling
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[19:57] <DDave> Aren't you afraid of losing your data? (corrupt sd card)
[19:57] <gordonDrogon> DDave, me?
[19:57] <DDave> Yessir
[19:57] <gordonDrogon> SD cards are disposable.
[19:57] <DDave> True..
[19:58] <DDave> Mine just failed me for the second time. I think its time for holidays
[19:58] <Torikun> I had to buy a new SD card cause my old one got corrupted somehow
[19:58] <gordonDrogon> I don't store data on them that I don't store elsewhere.
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[19:58] <Torikun> sucks when SD corruption happens when your working on ypur pi remote
[19:58] <gordonDrogon> NFS...
[19:59] <gordonDrogon> or rsync.
[19:59] <gordonDrogon> I've not had SD card corruption since I turned overclocking off.
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[20:01] <shirish> gordonDrogon: how would I rsync between the sd card and the something.img (the image that would be created by dd). I am assuming the command given would end in $somename.img
[20:01] <Torikun> lucky you gordonDrogon lol
[20:01] <DDave> overclocking is turned off by default isnt it?
[20:01] <IT_Sean> t'is
[20:01] <IT_Sean> t'isntit?
[20:01] <gordonDrogon> shirish, rsync is for files, not block devices.
[20:01] <shirish> IT_Sean: it is.
[20:01] <gordonDrogon> shirish, you don't rsync to an .img file.
[20:01] <shirish> gordonDrogon: ah o.k. then we have a problem.
[20:01] <gordonDrogon> actually, you can, but it's not very efficient.
[20:02] <shirish> gordonDrogon: o.k.
[20:02] <gordonDrogon> shirish, what problem?
[20:03] <shirish> gordonDrogon: umm.... we are trying to this in a small school kinda thingie, we have 4 pi's and want to kinda have updates on one and then kinda push it to all others
[20:03] <shirish> gordonDrogon: and trying to figure out the best way to do that.
[20:03] * shirish does not have good net access.
[20:03] <gordonDrogon> apt-get update them all at the same time. run a local squid to cache if you need to.
[20:04] <gordonDrogon> do you have net access at all?
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[20:04] <gordonDrogon> that's what I use here. I run squid on a server and all the Pi's use the squid as a proxy.
[20:05] <gordonDrogon> (and my desktops, etc.)
[20:05] <gordonDrogon> so I update one, the data is on the squid cache, then I update the others.
[20:05] <gordonDrogon> getting some "food" back in a tick.
[20:06] <shirish> gordonDrogon: hmm... o.k.
[20:07] <Mortvert> IT_Sean - can i pm?
[20:08] <IT_Sean> whadda need Mortvert?
[20:08] <Mortvert> I've got a vid of what happens when i turn my pi on
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[20:08] <IT_Sean> I'm at work. so... can't watch it now.
[20:09] <Mortvert> it's like the hardware freezes
[20:09] <Mortvert> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4604186/Wideo0001.3gp
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[20:10] <gordonDrogon> shirish, ok. This is what you can do. 1. Update one Pi and set it up as you need to. Do the dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/xxx bs=1M ; rm /tmp/xxx thing too.
[20:11] <Mortvert> gordonDrogon - can you look at my movie? i have no darn idea why this happens
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[20:12] <gordonDrogon> shirish, then halt the pi, put the card in your PC, and: dd if=/dev/sdaX bs=1M | bzip2 -9 -c > pi.img.bz2
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[20:13] <Mortvert> anyone? :|
[20:13] <shirish> gordonDrogon: could you explain to me what am I doing when I am doing (dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/xxx bs=1M ; rm /tmp/xxx) . I am assuming this command is to be executed on the pi.
[20:13] <gordonDrogon> Mortvert, looks like a pi booting.
[20:13] <Mortvert> gordonDrogon - but the video
[20:13] <Mortvert> it blanks out and does nothing
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[20:14] <gordonDrogon> it's very pixelated - low quality. I couldn't read anything, but does it boot into X?
[20:14] <Mortvert> no
[20:14] <Mortvert> just watch the thing. the video goes out
[20:14] <Mortvert> and nothing ever happens
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[20:15] <gordonDrogon> shirish, that creates a file that will fill the SD card with zeros - then you delete it. It will make it compress better by making any existing overwritten, but free areas on the SD card zero.
[20:15] <gordonDrogon> shirish, yes, run that on the Pi.
[20:15] <gordonDrogon> Mortvert, is it pingable?
[20:15] <Mortvert> not plugged into network
[20:15] <Davespice> owch Mortvert, I wonder what is going on there
[20:15] <shirish> gordonDrogon: but if I fill the SD card with zeros, wouldn't that remove whatever existing data/packages are there on the pi right now ?
[20:16] <gordonDrogon> shirish, no - it's only filling unused space.
[20:16] <shirish> gordonDrogon: ah o.k.
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[20:16] <gordonDrogon> shirish, when you delete a file, the data is still there - which may not compress well - this overwrites data still there, but deleted.
[20:16] <Mortvert> gordonDrogon - you see the moment when the screen goes out?
[20:16] <shirish> gordonDrogon: ah o.k. makes sense.
[20:16] <Mortvert> it should go int pi setup
[20:16] <gordonDrogon> Mortvert, yes, that does it flash up on the screen?
[20:17] <gordonDrogon> Mortvert, I can't read it - just blocky pixels.
[20:17] <Mortvert> no, after the screen goes out - nothing happens
[20:17] <shirish> gordonDrogon: so got the first part of the command which is dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/xxx bs=1M
[20:17] <gordonDrogon> Mortvert, it looks like it's printed something in the middle
[20:17] <Mortvert> "no signal"
[20:17] <gordonDrogon> shirish, yes that will fill the SD card.
[20:17] <gordonDrogon> Mortvert, ah, ok.
[20:18] <shirish> gordonDrogon: cool.
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[20:18] <gordonDrogon> Mortvert, it may be that the Pi is resetting the video mode and the monitor can't take it.
[20:18] <Mortvert> and entire thing (yes, everything) stops responding?
[20:18] <gordonDrogon> Mortvert, ok, no ping?
[20:18] <Mortvert> not plugged into network!
[20:19] <IT_Sean> Just because the Video cuts out does not mean the pi is not responding
[20:19] <Mortvert> i tried plugging it in once
[20:19] <gordonDrogon> Mortvert, well who knows - plug it in & see if it can be pinged.
[20:19] <Mortvert> IT_Sean - i can see it not reading the card
[20:19] <shirish> gordonDrogon: then run the second dd/cfldd to make the transition to the image.
[20:19] <gordonDrogon> shirish, the 2nd one is run on your PC once you're halted the Pi and moved the SD card over into it.
[20:19] <shirish> gordonDrogon: after that is done then do the rm /tmp/xxx
[20:20] <shirish> gordon ah o.k.
[20:20] <gordonDrogon> shirish, it reads the SD card using dd, sends it to the output which is then compressed with bzip2
[20:20] <gordonDrogon> shirish, ah - yes, rm the /tmp/xxx after the dd from /dev/zero
[20:21] <shirish> gordonDrogon: o.k. will try and let you know, thanx.
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[20:36] <pksato> netBSD for rpi available. What next, Win8 or iOS? :) Obvious, Android.
[20:39] <pronto> i think there is an andriod project
[20:39] <pronto> http://androidpi.wikia.com/wiki/Android_Pi_Wiki
[20:40] <pronto> so , unusable, or barely usable
[20:41] <pronto> well, cyangen is unusable, appetnly offical andriod is usable
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[20:41] <Davespice> gordonDrogon: I agree with you that it could well be the tv doesn't like the curses video mode
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[20:41] <pronto> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1700 pksato
[20:42] <pksato> Yes, I know.
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[20:46] <Mortvert> wierd
[20:46] <Mortvert> it stopped doing that
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[20:47] <Mortvert> by the looks of it it fixed itself
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[20:48] <Datalink> hm, I need to optimize my cups install... and get a drive on my pi
[20:48] <Mortvert> ssh port is 22?
[20:49] <Datalink> typically, yeah
[20:49] <Mortvert> ! It works, it doesn't freeze anymore.
[20:49] <Mortvert> Maybe it needed more than hour to warm up
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[20:51] <Mortvert> Most important is that it works <3
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[20:53] <Datalink> could have been a slow startup script
[20:53] <Mortvert> But i used the same card. ._<
[20:54] <Davespice> what was the last night you did before is started working?
[20:54] <Davespice> the last thing*
[20:55] <Mortvert> left it running for 3 minutes after it froze
[20:56] <Mortvert> it heated up quite a bit
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[20:57] <Davespice> so it got hot after the suspected crash?
[20:57] <Mortvert> yep
[20:57] <Mortvert> very hot, much more than now.
[20:57] <Davespice> how hot are we talking?
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[20:58] <Davespice> that sounds like you may have a genuine hardware fault there
[20:58] <Mortvert> Hum. How do i check pi's temp?
[20:58] <Mortvert> Davespice - it works fine
[20:58] <Mortvert> now
[20:58] <rikkib> Put you finger on the chip
[20:58] <Davespice> yeah, you may find the old problem returns once it has allowed to go cold again
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[20:58] <Mortvert> I don't know what happen, but after i left it running for a moment there and let it cool down - it worked fine
[20:58] <Mortvert> s/happen/happend
[20:58] <Mortvert|PI> Hey, it works fine. For now.
[20:59] <Mortvert|PI> I hope it was aftereffects of beign brought in from the cold.
[20:59] <Davespice> maybe...
[20:59] <Davespice> so you could get into the config page then?
[20:59] <Mortvert|PI> yeah, i can.
[20:59] <Mortvert|PI> let me d/c this
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[21:00] <Mortvert> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[21:00] <Mortvert> temp=42.2'C
[21:00] <Mortvert> Hum.
[21:00] <Mortvert> Davespice - which config page?
[21:01] <Davespice> the blue curses one
[21:01] <Mortvert> raspberry_config?
[21:01] <Mortvert> raspi-config*
[21:01] <Davespice> yeah the first time boot has an auto login which then runs it
[21:01] <Mortvert> yeah, i got it fine
[21:01] * Davespice nods
[21:01] <Mortvert> I'm in it now.
[21:01] <Davespice> okay well...
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[21:02] <Davespice> this is the test then; let is cool down to room temperature, and try again
[21:02] <Davespice> if it is still okay after that then you're probably in the clear
[21:02] <Davespice> maybe get a comment from gordonDrogon too
[21:02] <Mortvert> I'll leave it for ~30 minutes
[21:02] <Mortvert> Davespice - could you count for me please?
[21:03] <Davespice> your pc has a clock doesn't it?
[21:03] <Mortvert> I'm sure i'll forget about this in next 10 minutes
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[21:35] <Davespice> Mortvert: thats about half an hour now
[21:36] <Mortvert> plugged it in
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[21:36] <Mortvert> And thanks, Davespice.
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[21:37] <Torikun> Does tar support downloading fles from remote?
[21:37] <Torikun> tar xf http://sourceforge.net/projects/gnucash/files/gnucash%20%28stable%29/2.4.11/gnucash-2.4.11.tar.gz/download
[21:37] <Torikun> tar: Cannot connect to http: resolve failed
[21:37] <shiftplusone> I would be surprised if it did. You need to pipe it through curl or wget
[21:38] <Torikun> looking at that command. looks like it kinda supports it
[21:39] <shiftplusone> yeah, wouldn't say resolve failed, obviously, but still
[21:39] <shiftplusone> I am surprised, heh
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[21:40] <shiftplusone> but getting the same error here
[21:40] <Torikun> yueah lol
[21:40] <Torikun> I tried a simpler url and no work either
[21:41] <Mortvert> Davespice - work fine
[21:42] <Mortvert> temp=39.0'C
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[21:43] <shiftplusone> that's not a valid link btw
[21:43] <shiftplusone> it's a redirect
[21:44] <Torikun> hmmm
[21:45] <Torikun> https://mephistobackup.googlecode.com/files/mephisto-1.14.tar.gz
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[21:45] <Torikun> try that one
[21:45] <Torikun> looks like it is doing something
[21:46] <shiftplusone> getting somewhere, i'll let you know if it works
[21:46] <Torikun> on my cygwin box, its doing something, on linux can not resolve
[21:46] <Torikun> wtf
[21:46] * shiftplusone is waiting for the download to finish
[21:47] <Torikun> lol
[21:47] <Torikun> what is wrong on teh linux box then
[21:47] <Mortvert> i 41.2'C a good temp for pi?
[21:47] <Torikun> yes
[21:47] <Torikun> resolv failed on cygwin also shiftplusone]
[21:47] <shiftplusone> Worry if it doubles
[21:47] <shiftplusone> ls
[21:48] <shiftplusone> curl -0 http://mephistobackup.googlecode.com/files/mephisto-1.14.tar.gz | tar vzx
[21:48] <shiftplusone> maybe a little redundant, but works for me
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[21:48] <Torikun> lol
[21:48] <Torikun> that works
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[21:50] * IT_Sean explodes a couple of Pis
[21:51] <dape> noooooooo
[21:51] * Mortvert slaps IT_Sean around a bit with a large trout
[21:51] <IT_Sean> OW! OW! OW!
[21:51] <IT_Sean> That hurt!!!
[21:51] * shiftplusone slaps a large trout with IT_Sean
[21:51] <IT_Sean> OW!!!
[21:51] <IT_Sean> shift!!!???!!! What the hell!?
[21:52] * DDave steals the trout, cooks it and then serves it to IT_Sean
[21:52] * IT_Sean passes
[21:52] * IT_Sean prefers flounder
[21:52] <DDave> wise move.
[21:52] * Mortvert cooks IT_Sean and serves it to the trouts
[21:52] <DDave> the trout passes
[21:52] <DDave> xD
[21:52] * IT_Sean slaps Mortvert with shiftplusone
[21:52] <Mortvert> O_o
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[22:05] <Mortvert> Davespice - it did it again
[22:05] <Mortvert> died on me :|
[22:06] <[Ex0r]> anyone here have a spare ingress invite?
[22:06] <Davespice> oh no
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[22:07] <Davespice> it sounds like there might be a hairline fracture somewhere in the soldering, I'm not sure, gordonDrogon what do you think?
[22:07] <Torikun> what is ingress
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[22:07] <gordonDrogon> hi
[22:07] <gordonDrogon> sorry - been away for an hour or so.
[22:08] <gordonDrogon> ingress is a wat for google to find out where you are and for them to record monuments, etc. disguised as a game.
[22:08] <Davespice> Mortvert's problem went away for a while, but then came back again
[22:08] <gordonDrogon> oh - not sure. it seemed repeatable at boot time though...
[22:08] <Mortvert> now it's gone from boot time
[22:08] <Mortvert> and happens later on
[22:08] <Torikun> oh
[22:09] <gordonDrogon> does sound potentially thermal. ie. warming up, and causing a break?
[22:09] <Mortvert> it died again
[22:09] <Mortvert> 41.2 celcius
[22:09] <Mortvert> did the temp check before it died
[22:10] <gordonDrogon> maybe best to send it back...
[22:10] <[Ex0r]> Torikun- www.ingress.com
[22:10] <Torikun> Your PI is one with the lord
[22:10] <Torikun> no info there [Ex0r]
[22:10] <[Ex0r]> yes there is, watch the trailer
[22:11] <Torikun> ah doh!
[22:11] <aDro> My Pi has an iP
[22:11] <Mortvert> pi@raspberrypi ~ $ /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[22:11] <Mortvert> temp=42.2'C
[22:11] <gordonDrogon> I'd actually run ingress, but I can't load apps. on my phone anymore.
[22:11] <Torikun> y
[22:11] <Mortvert> 42.8
[22:12] <Mortvert> 43.3
[22:12] <Mortvert> running a sftp
[22:12] <gordonDrogon> and I suspect that where I live, there are no landmarks registered anyway.
[22:12] <aDro> Temps going up! RUN!
[22:12] <gordonDrogon> wory when it reaches 75C.
[22:12] <Mortvert> why is the temp rising so much? D:
[22:12] <aDro> do you have a heat sink?
[22:12] <Mortvert> no
[22:12] <aDro> 45 idle is fine.
[22:12] <gordonDrogon> don't need one.
[22:12] <gordonDrogon> I have a pi inside a box and it's 55C and been like that for days.
[22:12] <Mortvert> i wonder why the pi is dying randomly thought
[22:12] <Torikun> video did not help [Ex0r]
[22:13] <[Ex0r]> really?
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> Mortvert, heat causes expansion, expansion moves 2 wires apart that need to be connected (is one theory)
[22:13] <aDro> Mortvert: Steady Power? do you have a Voltmeter?
[22:13] <Torikun> Yup
[22:13] <Mortvert> aDro - no voltometer
[22:13] <[Ex0r]> It's a geocache game where you collect 'portals' with other people on your team based on gps
[22:13] <Torikun> Looking for supernatural stuff
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> portals. that's the word.
[22:13] <Torikun> oh
[22:13] <aDro> Buy one from Canadian Tire, and then return it.
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[22:13] <Mortvert> this power supply is reported to work thought
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> power it off a laptop.
[22:13] <Mortvert> did same thing
[22:14] <Mortvert> and it's gone, again.
[22:14] <aDro> gordonDrogon: why laptop?
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[22:23] <Macksie> Hey
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[22:24] <Mortvert> gordonDrogon - you know what?
[22:24] <IT_Sean> o/
[22:24] <Mortvert> I think that my power supply ain't good enough
[22:24] <Mortvert> i can hear my cooling pad stopping when laptop redirects entire power to Pi
[22:24] <Macksie> I'm trying to encode video for streaming on my pi - getting 1-2fps on libx264 - how do i know if its using hardware encoding?
[22:25] <aDro> Mortvert: No Microusb power adapter for the wall socket, eh?
[22:25] <Mortvert> but iirc this charger is confirmed to work with pi
[22:25] <Mortvert> aDro - i live in god-forsaken part of EU, what do you expect?
[22:26] <aDro> I expected you to live next to the only electronics store in your region. That was my mistake.
[22:26] <mjr> Macksie, it doesn't
[22:26] <aDro> You only need a 700mA power adapter.
[22:26] <gordonDrogon> aDro, laptops are portable - might be easy to get them near the Pi?
[22:27] <mjr> I'm not sure what does, there was something in the works but nothing too polished yet iirc
[22:27] <Mortvert> aDro - that's what i use
[22:27] <aDro> How much power can the laptop provide?
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[22:27] <Mortvert> varies per machine iirc
[22:27] <gordonDrogon> I'm powering 2 Pi's right now off a Lapop (Acer Aspire 1 netbook)
[22:27] <Mortvert> gordonDrogon - by the looks how it stops it's like something is pulling halt on entire thing
[22:27] <aDro> gordonDrogon: Do you have a voltmeter?
[22:27] <Mortvert> sometimes the SD LED stays lit.
[22:28] <gordonDrogon> aDro, yes, I have voltmeters.
[22:28] <Macksie> mjr, what was the news post on about 'Alongside MPEG-2 support (which you???ll have to pay for), we???re making H.264 encode available for free. '
[22:28] <aDro> gordonDrogon: Are you getting 4.86v from the laptop?
[22:28] <gordonDrogon> aDro, I've no idea.
[22:28] <aDro> :S
[22:28] <aDro> Just normal USB ports or the special ones designed for phones?
[22:29] <gordonDrogon> it's an acer aspire one - 3 years old.
[22:29] <aDro> Are the USB ports yellow?
[22:29] <aDro> I am just curious
[22:29] <mjr> Macksie, it was about the firmware graciously allowing you to do h.264 encoding (which you have paid protection money for, it's just included in the price). It was not about having much software available that could actually do it for you.
[22:29] <djazz> A110 model?
[22:29] <mjr> one presumes it will come
[22:29] <aDro> Such a tiny laptop
[22:30] <djazz> gordonDrogon: the AOA110 with SSD?
[22:30] <gordonDrogon> aDro, 4.87 at the GPIO connector.
[22:30] <gordonDrogon> djazz, yes. a slow one.
[22:30] <djazz> i have it too
[22:30] <gordonDrogon> running debian squeeze.
[22:30] <djazz> same here
[22:31] <djazz> xD
[22:31] <Macksie> mjr, oh right! So is there no faster way to speed up encoding
[22:31] <djazz> some keys have stopped working on it :/
[22:31] <djazz> gordonDrogon: i ugraded mine to 1.5GB ram
[22:32] <aDro> Neat
[22:32] <aDro> I may have to try to run my pi off my laptop
[22:32] <IT_Sean> nice.
[22:32] <IT_Sean> More ram is always A Good Thing.
[22:33] <gordonDrogon> djazz, yea, my wifes has 1.5G - mine only has 1G (bought the wrong dimm)
[22:33] <djazz> aha
[22:33] <djazz> we had two too, but the other got stolen somehow :/
[22:34] <aDro> I have an extra 2gb PC5300s ram
[22:34] <aDro> sitting on my desk
[22:34] <aDro> PC2
[22:35] <djazz> gordonDrogon: does your get very hot, and fan is always on?
[22:35] <djazz> even if cpu is near 0%
[22:35] <mjr> Macksie, I'm not sure what you mean by faster. It should be fast enough when applications actually take advantage of it. You can speed that up by doing an encoder yourself, I suppose. Or there's a link to a _very_ rudimentary Pi-accelerated encoder in this thread: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=18261
[22:35] <gordonDrogon> djazz, no.
[22:35] <djazz> hmm
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[22:35] <gordonDrogon> djazz, it gets hot, but I have the acer fan control thingy.
[22:35] <djazz> yeah, but the fan spins at max, i think
[22:36] <Tachyon`> argh, I was outbid in the final seconds on an original grandstand vfd scramble game -.-
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[22:36] <gordonDrogon> hm. brb.
[22:36] <Tachyon`> oh yes, 7 seconds before the end
[22:37] <Tachyon`> sniping gits -.-
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[22:38] <aDro> Why does the TaskManager say -1%?
[22:38] <aDro> for all the applications?
[22:38] <djazz> hmm.. i reach 2.5 MB/s when transferring a file to the pi over ssh (scp).. can I get higher?
[22:38] <djazz> over ethernet
[22:38] <gordonDrogon> I get about 3-3.5
[22:38] <gordonDrogon> it's the encryption that kills it. Try using blowfish.
[22:38] <gordonDrogon> -c blowfish
[22:38] <mjr> recall that ssh is encrypted
[22:39] <djazz> aha
[22:39] <mjr> it tends to put a damper on the speed with a slow cpu
[22:39] <gordonDrogon> you more or less have to use a bid sniper on ebay these days - mostly because everyone else is.
[22:39] <IT_Sean> I wish they would put a stop to that
[22:39] <Mortvert> gordonDrogon - can anything be triggering a halt on my pi?
[22:39] <IT_Sean> I have stopped bidding on auctions because of it
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[22:40] <gordonDrogon> Mortvert, is it a halt or a crash?
[22:40] <Mortvert> don't know. looks like a sudden halt.
[22:40] <gordonDrogon> so a crash.
[22:40] <gordonDrogon> Send it back.
[22:40] <Mortvert> you say?
[22:40] * Mortvert sighs
[22:40] <gordonDrogon> what else can you do?
[22:40] <gordonDrogon> if it's brand new...
[22:40] <Mortvert> Try ANOTHER power supply
[22:41] <Mortvert> Since that's the one thing i didn't try
[22:41] * IT_Sean issues an RMA on Mortvert's pi
[22:41] <gordonDrogon> Mortvert's Pi est Mort.
[22:41] <Mortvert> D:
[22:41] <IT_Sean> Ja
[22:41] <Torikun> Your Pi was not baked properly
[22:41] <Torikun> lol
[22:42] <Mortvert> I'll lend another charger tomorrow to see if it fixes things
[22:42] <Mortvert> If not - i'm bothering RS
[22:42] * IT_Sean voids the warrenty on Mortvert's Pi
[22:42] <Mortvert> :|
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[22:43] <aDro> It's easy to void mental warrenties.
[22:43] <Mortvert> Mine's been raped
[22:43] <aDro> Ravished even.
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[22:43] <Mortvert> hrn.
[22:43] <Mortvert> the pi is stable at 40'c
[22:44] <Torikun> uh oh he said the R word
[22:44] <Mortvert> it crashed twice when i tried SFTPing a 400~ish mb file into it
[22:44] <Torikun> lol
[22:44] <Mortvert> gordonDrogon - you really think it's hardware fault?
[22:45] <gordonDrogon> depends on how many PSUs youve tried.
[22:45] <gordonDrogon> and if it is brand new
[22:45] <Mortvert> brand new. just one PSU
[22:46] <Torikun> can that PSU charge your tablet/phone?
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[22:46] <djazz> tried it from computer USB?
[22:46] <Mortvert> it's a borrowed one
[22:46] <Mortvert> and yes, tried from USB. it did the same thing once, never more.
[22:46] <gordonDrogon> I'd try the lead from laptop, PC, etc. if you can.
[22:46] <Torikun> Mortvert: can that PSU charge your tablet/phone?
[22:46] <Mortvert> Torikun - ain't got a phone to test it.
[22:46] <Torikun> =(
[22:47] <Mortvert> Like i said - i borrowed that charger from someone
[22:47] <aDro> Their fault then.
[22:47] <Mortvert> eta0u10ebe
[22:47] <Mortvert> is the charger
[22:47] <Mortvert> samsung one
[22:47] <aDro> Best charger I found was my 700mA LG
[22:47] <aDro> It's got a wired cable.
[22:48] <aDro> Pi stays at a steady 4.86v
[22:48] <djazz> Mortvert: i have a similar, without the cable
[22:48] <djazz> i can try it
[22:49] <aDro> The one I ordered from Element14 that was rated for 1000mA was the worst one I tried.
[22:49] <x42> hi there - i want to compile a current driver for my edimax wifi stick
[22:49] <aDro> Sort of makes me sad.
[22:49] <Mortvert> djazz - please do.
[22:49] <x42> i'm using this tutorial: http://blog.poettner.de/2012/08/22/how-to-compile-rtl8192cu-ko-for-raspberry-pi-running-raspian/
[22:49] <Torikun> I ordered a pi charger rom MMC and it was faulty
[22:49] <x42> i want to execute: make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=/usr/bin/arm-linux-gnueabihf- -C PATH_TO_BUILD_SUBDIR_OF_YOUR_KERNEL M=DIRECTORY_WHERE_THE_DRIVER_LIVES modules
[22:49] <aDro> :|
[22:49] <Torikun> and arrived hella late
[22:49] <x42> but i dont know the PATH_TO_BUILD_SUB ? acperkins
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[22:50] <x42> and DIRECTORY_WHERE _THE_DRIVER_LIVES
[22:50] <x42> any suggestions?
[22:50] <Mortvert> can i artificially put a load on my pi?
[22:50] <x42> im using current raspian
[22:50] <Mortvert> since it seems to crash under load.
[22:50] <djazz> aDro: i ordered a PSU with a pi from a element14/farnell reseller. IT MAKES NOISES, pretty loudly.
[22:50] <aDro> Wow.
[22:50] <Mortvert> (did that twice when i SCP'd into it)
[22:50] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[22:50] <aDro> I should call them then. Get a refund.
[22:51] <djazz> Deltaco stuff sux
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[22:51] <rikkib> I wonder where I lost the 6 2N2222 that I had...
[22:51] <Mortvert> Any of you knows how i can put a load on my pi to see if it dies?
[22:51] <DDave> do what you did last time it crashed
[22:51] <Mortvert> I'd need to unplug it and go headless again
[22:52] <Torikun> i got a good perl script for you
[22:52] <djazz> Mortvert: play quake on turbo
[22:52] <Torikun> https://code.google.com/p/mephistobackup/source/browse/branches/perl/stress/newclock.pl
[22:52] <Mortvert> djazz - quake you say?
[22:52] <djazz> that crashed my sd card, had to format it
[22:52] <IT_Sean> quake
[22:52] <djazz> quake3
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[22:53] * rikkib has not had a bad RPi and I have 6
[22:53] <Torikun> Mortvert: run this https://code.google.com/p/mephistobackup/source/browse/branches/perl/stress/newclock.pl
[22:53] <Torikun> lol
[22:53] <Mortvert> Will do.
[22:53] <djazz> Mortvert: booting up...
[22:54] <djazz> Mortvert: i have wlan and bt dongle plugged in too
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[22:55] <djazz> Mortvert: did you go into desktop?
[22:55] <Mortvert> djazz - no
[22:55] <djazz> hm
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[22:55] <djazz> cpu usage around 80%, still working
[22:55] <djazz> with hdmi as display
[22:56] <Mortvert> i'm using RCA
[22:56] <djazz> shouldnt differ
[22:56] <aDro> i need something with rca
[22:56] <Torikun> anyone get xbmc-git to compile on arch?
[22:56] * djazz is watching a 3.3 GB 1080p movie atm
[22:57] <djazz> on the Samsung psu
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[22:57] <Torikun> I hate when packages don't compil;e
[22:58] <Mortvert> let's see
[22:58] <Mortvert> got the newclock.pl
[22:58] <Mortvert> let's see what hapens
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[22:58] <Torikun> change the io test boolean first
[22:58] <Torikun> to disable it lol
[22:58] <Torikun> $iotest = 1; to $iotest = 0;
[22:59] <Mortvert> k
[23:00] <Torikun> i am running it on my pi now . if it crashes my IRC, you know why
[23:00] <Torikun> top
[23:01] <aDro> You're standing on it?
[23:01] <Mortvert> okay, it's doing it's thing.
[23:01] <Torikun> lol no
[23:01] <Mortvert> it's using 100% CPU
[23:01] <djazz> its on 90% cpu
[23:01] <Torikun> it stopped running on my p Mortvert, took all the memory
[23:01] <Torikun> i need to tweak my code
[23:01] <Mortvert> I'm going to let it take everything
[23:01] <Torikun> it uses all the cpu and ram
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[23:02] <djazz> free ram is dropping
[23:02] <djazz> XDD
[23:02] <Torikun> your running it also djazz?
[23:02] <djazz> "out of memory"
[23:02] <djazz> yes
[23:02] <Torikun> wow I never thought I would get anyone to run that besided me
[23:02] <Torikun> my $value = 989990000; change that to soemthing smaller
[23:02] <Mortvert> i need to stress-check my pi
[23:02] <djazz> Torikun: i have almost same PSU as Mortvert
[23:02] <djazz> so im testing too
[23:02] <Mortvert> out of memory *2
[23:03] <Torikun> my $value = 989990000; Set it to 889990000
[23:03] <Mortvert> didn't crash
[23:03] <Mortvert> load average is 4
[23:03] <Mortvert> So why the hell it crashed before?
[23:03] <djazz> what happens when out of ram? heh
[23:03] <Mortvert> nothing
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[23:03] <Mortvert> a whole bag of nothing happend
[23:03] <Torikun> 96.8 24.4 0:22.53 perl
[23:04] <Torikun> looks more stable now
[23:04] <djazz> Mortvert: idd
[23:04] <Mortvert> the lights are flickering a little.. humm
[23:04] <Torikun> 61% memory used
[23:04] <djazz> Torikun: bad program... nothing happened D: ;D
[23:04] <Torikun> 72%
[23:04] <Torikun> Clock.pl Version: 1.1 Starting...
[23:04] <Torikun> Out of memory!
[23:04] <Torikun> lol
[23:05] <Mortvert> Might the cause be the little power fluctuations?
[23:05] <Mortvert> i've noticed it just now
[23:05] <Torikun> Trying value at 7xxxxxx
[23:05] <djazz> Mortvert: tried start desktop?
[23:05] <Mortvert> doing it
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[23:05] <Mortvert> got X's
[23:06] <djazz> X's?
[23:06] <Torikun> ?
[23:06] <Mortvert> desktop works
[23:06] <djazz> hmm
[23:07] <djazz> if you move the cable a bit near connector, does it reboot?
[23:07] <djazz> near microusb connector
[23:08] <djazz> my RS PSU got a loose microusb connector
[23:08] <Mortvert> hm. nothing
[23:08] <Mortvert> thought that's happend once
[23:08] <djazz> slightest touch causes a reboot
[23:08] <Mortvert> i moved a cable once and it poof'd
[23:08] <djazz> and im using it for my webserver atm xD
[23:08] <Mortvert> mine ain't rebooting
[23:09] <rikkib> Found 4 2N2222...
[23:10] <Mortvert> or at least it didn't look like it rebooted
[23:10] <Mortvert> the graphics just went all glitchy
[23:10] <Mortvert> and i pulled out power
[23:11] <djazz> one of the LED's on my latest pi broke the day after i got it :/
[23:11] <djazz> hm
[23:11] <Torikun> wow that sucks djazz
[23:11] <djazz> its the yellow LED
[23:11] <djazz> 100M
[23:11] <djazz> Before: http://i48.tinypic.com/5dv03l.jpg
[23:11] <djazz> The day after: http://i.imgur.com/fjHh36s.jpg
[23:11] <djazz> it had been on all night
[23:12] <djazz> but all my other pi's are too
[23:12] <Torikun> that case is 2 cute
[23:12] <djazz> Torikun: yes! http://i.imgur.com/CuMX404.jpg
[23:12] <gordonDrogon> I need more USB cables so I can power more Pi's and charge my phone ):
[23:12] <Torikun> Nice
[23:12] <djazz> gordonDrogon: get a powered usb hub!
[23:12] <djazz> to power all pi's!
[23:13] <Torikun> 1 USB to rule them all
[23:13] <gordonDrogon> djazz, I have one - but no cables!!!
[23:13] <djazz> right! me too!
[23:13] <gordonDrogon> I currently power 2 Pi's off the hub too.
[23:13] <djazz> only 3 usb <-> micro usb
[23:13] <djazz> xD
[23:13] <djazz> "only"
[23:13] <djazz> i have four pi's http://i.imgur.com/jxDn0wb.jpg
[23:13] <gordonDrogon> I have 4 online now, but I want 2 more cables so I can get the 5th going and charge my phone.
[23:14] <gordonDrogon> they're not plugged in! waste!
[23:14] <Mortvert> okay, i'll shut down my pi for overnight and see what happens in the morning
[23:14] <gordonDrogon> :)
[23:14] <djazz> gordonDrogon: pose pic
[23:14] <Torikun> that wont do anything Mortvert
[23:14] <Torikun> lol
[23:14] <Mortvert> who knows? didn't crash now, even under full load
[23:15] <Torikun> i am tweaking the app
[23:15] <Torikun> almost done
[23:15] <djazz> Mortvert: :D
[23:15] <Torikun> finding safe value
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[23:17] <djazz> anyone want to host a webradio off a pi?
[23:17] <djazz> that plays music
[23:18] <Torikun> sounds interesting
[23:18] <djazz> like this: http://djazz.mine.nu:1337/
[23:18] <djazz> 100% pi power
[23:18] <Torikun> Set it to my $value = 3000;
[23:18] <Torikun> Mort
[23:18] <djazz> i sux at writing tutorials D:
[23:19] <djazz> someday..
[23:20] <Torikun> Mortvert: Set it to my $value = 3000;
[23:20] <Torikun> high CPU/ about 30% ram
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[23:27] <markedathome> [Ex0r]: go to #ingress, and hang around for a bit. someone usually posts within a couple of hours. Alternatively just sign up at ingress.com. I got two invites, one about 2 days later, another 3 after that.
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[23:30] <[Ex0r]> markedathome- I did sign up on there, last I had heard though it was a 2-3 month wait
[23:31] <pronto> just put your email on the ingress.com site for ingress, they've been pumping out invites via that
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[23:31] <[Ex0r]> yeah, that's what I signed up on
[23:35] <markedathome> dunno, assumed it was because I was in the UK and they are doing geolocation. fewer people in a location == fast signups.
[23:36] <djazz> if anyone wants, I can show on teamviewer how to set up a webradio server, like this: http://djazz.mine.nu:1337/ on your rpi
[23:36] <aDro> What would I broadcast?
[23:36] <djazz> using icecast, mpd, php, mysql
[23:36] <djazz> music!
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[23:37] <aDro> A loop of me singing the Trolololol song.
[23:37] <djazz> if you have a usb soundcard with audio in i can show how to send that
[23:37] <djazz> instead
[23:37] <aDro> neat
[23:37] <markedathome> aDro: as long as it isnt a nyancat loop
[23:38] <aDro> I do have a usb sound card
[23:38] <aDro> djazz, you have intrigued me, is it difficult?
[23:38] <djazz> aDro: you run Raspbian or Arch?
[23:38] <aDro> Raspbian
[23:39] <djazz> i run Arch, but it should be similar
[23:39] <djazz> except the way how packages are installed
[23:39] <aDro> yeah, I can just ssh in
[23:39] <djazz> yea
[23:40] <djazz> aDro: you run windows or linux on the primary?
[23:40] <aDro> windows
[23:40] <aDro> usually
[23:41] <djazz> teamviewer is a version behind on linux :/
[23:41] <djazz> hm how can I set up view-mode with vnc?
[23:41] <djazz> tightvncserver
[23:42] <aDro> I can use teamview
[23:42] <aDro> I like teamview
[23:42] <djazz> teamviewer 7?
[23:42] <aDro> yeah sure
[23:42] <djazz> good, i pm u
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[23:56] <markedathome> didn't think they were still flying, but were in static displays
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[23:59] <markedathome> apparently they stop flying later this year, llast flight at Doncaster's Robin Hood Airport

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