#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-01-29

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[0:00] <pronto> woot woot, second RPI got here today
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[0:03] <pronto> http://raspberry.bagels.xxx/script.txt heh, this is a good way to heat up a pi, four convert, one composite,(image magick) reapting every 5 seconds,
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[0:04] <[ill]will> i want a xxx domain :(
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[0:05] <pronto> [ill]will: if you have like $70 bucks to toss away a year you can get one
[0:06] <pronto> but i suggest putting your money to better use xD
[0:06] <[ill]will> http://goatse.xxx is already reserved :(
[0:06] <pronto> :(
[0:06] <pronto> anyways, sushi time for me
[0:07] <weltall> 70$ is not an extreme amount yet :P
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[0:07] <pronto> weltall: to some no, to many yes
[0:08] <pronto> though there are tld's that go for a lot more
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[0:11] <VetteWork> anyone have tricks on setting resolution? Pi#1 I have had for awhile, works fine, Pi#2 we just got, setup the /boot/config.txt up the same as Pi#1 but it stays in 640x480 mode
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[0:13] <VetteWork> hdmi_group=1 hdmi_mode=16 is set on both, swapping the HDMI cable between the two units..
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[0:40] <x42> hi there - i managed to acces my wifi through wpa_supplicant
[0:40] <x42> now i want to auto ifup wlan0
[0:40] <x42> how do i have to adapt my /etc/network/interfaces?
[0:40] <x42> http://pad.braegelmann.net/p/raspi_interfaces
[0:41] <pksato> auto wlan0
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[0:41] <x42> allow-hotlug > auto ?
[0:41] <x42> pksato?
[0:42] <pksato> new line with auto wlan0
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[0:42] <x42> thx!
[0:42] <x42> i'll try
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[0:44] <x42> didnt work pksato
[0:46] <pksato> ifup wlan0 work?
[0:46] <pksato> iface wlan0 inet manual?
[0:46] <pksato> manual, or static, fixed ip?
[0:47] <Mortvert> okay, i'm out of ideas why my pi might be crashing
[0:47] <Torikun> Mortvert: new pi
[0:47] <Torikun> lol
[0:47] <Mortvert> Torikun - gimme $
[0:47] <Torikun> can you RMA\
[0:47] <Mortvert> used RS, not sure.
[0:47] <shiftplusone> Mortvert, 'course
[0:47] <x42> hm ifup wlan0 is not working anymore
[0:47] <shiftplusone> return it
[0:47] <Torikun> its clearly faulty
[0:47] <x42> i'll have a look
[0:48] <shiftplusone> they have to send you a new one
[0:48] <shiftplusone> wth is it with RS? O_o
[0:48] <Torikun> they had me waiting months for a pi
[0:48] <shiftplusone> Meh, I waited a few months for my first pi as well, and that was farnell
[0:48] <shiftplusone> but I ordered at launch
[0:48] <x42> ifup wlan0 works from #-shell but not with sudo - hmm
[0:49] <Torikun> oh
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[0:49] <pksato> x42: http://pastebin.com/nnNKjL7z
[0:50] <shiftplusone> I hope you don't use that password for anything else
[0:50] <x42> is that without wpa_supplicant pksato?
[0:50] <chithead> you can also put the password in wpa_supplicant.conf so you don't need to restrict read access to interfaces
[0:50] <shiftplusone> "-NickServ- Invalid password for pksato." Good =)
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[0:51] <pksato> x42: its is one of way to configure wpa
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[0:51] <x42> thanks - i'll try
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[0:52] <Mortvert> shiftplusone - so you say i should RMA it?
[0:52] <Mortvert> http://authenticate.rsdelivers.com/staticfiles/28/returnsform.pdf and..?
[0:52] <Mortvert> Faulty? Damaged?
[0:52] <shiftplusone> Mortvert, 'course faulty
[0:53] <pksato> x42: if need static ip, need more parameters.
[0:53] <Mortvert> shiftplusone - how do i go about RMAing it? never did it D:
[0:53] <shiftplusone> Neither, but the instruction are on that form you just linked
[0:54] <shiftplusone> Maybe email/call them first
[0:54] <pksato> x42: like it http://pastebin.com/p5pm57WW
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[0:56] <x42> that worked pksato!
[0:56] <x42> thanks!
[0:56] <x42> :D
[0:56] <x42> and now ipv6 plz
[0:56] <x42> :)
[1:00] <rikkib> Five Arms on the desk :) http://www.bencom.co.nz/cam/
[1:00] <rikkib> Six
[1:03] <rikkib> Seven now
[1:03] <mdik> you can do wpa with /etc/interfaces straight? since when?
[1:04] <mdik> (all the pain ive been through... in vain.)
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[1:05] * x42 is watching rikkib
[1:05] <Mortvert> Okay, sent a mail.
[1:05] <rikkib> :)
[1:05] <Mortvert> now to wait for a reply.
[1:05] <Mortvert> It hurts that i have to RMA it :(
[1:05] <chithead> mdik: it is even described in their wiki http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#WPA-PSK_and_WPA2-PSK
[1:05] <Mortvert> I know one thing, i won't be buying anything else from RS.
[1:06] <rikkib> Made new break out board today. Not finished yet.
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[1:08] <rikkib> 13:08:07.451213 IP bencom.co.nz.tproxy > xdsl-xxx-xxx-45-42.netcologne.de.46401:
[1:08] <Mortvert> shiftplusone - thanks for the tip.
[1:09] <Mortvert> (It hurts ;_;)
[1:09] <shiftplusone> np
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[1:09] <Mortvert> But really, i wonder wth are these scribbles on my board..
[1:10] <Mortvert> Oh well. time to sleep. Night,
[1:11] <rikkib> Shortage of resources... Drats
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[1:11] <rikkib> Need another DC-Dc convertor
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[1:15] <shiftplusone> What are you cloberring over there?
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[1:17] <akasoldats> Hi, are there any rbmc or possibly rasbian users around?
[1:17] <Opinie> I'm a raspbian user
[1:18] <akasoldats> I'm having problems ftping stuff to my rpi
[1:18] <x42> first installes packed : "sl"
[1:18] <pksato> http://news.slashdot.org/story/13/01/28/1625230/why-a-linux-user-is-using-windows-31
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[1:18] <Opinie> akasoldats: I haven't set up ftp on my pi
[1:18] <shiftplusone> silly post
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[1:18] <akasoldats> x_x
[1:19] <shiftplusone> akasoldats, your question is probably generic and you don't need a raspbian or raspbmc user, just google how to get an ftp server on linux.
[1:19] <akasoldats> Its setup by default if you have ssh access enabled..
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[1:19] <Opinie> ah, k
[1:19] <shiftplusone> Do you mean sftp by any chance?
[1:20] <akasoldats> yah
[1:20] <shiftplusone> yeah.... that's not ftp
[1:20] <akasoldats> my bad
[1:20] <shiftplusone> are you trying to copy files from windows?
[1:20] <scummos> sftp is like ftp except that it's not ftp and it actually works nicely
[1:20] <akasoldats> rigardless it works for a while then all network traffic stops on my rpi
[1:21] <shiftplusone> oh, so it's probably a network or faulty pi issue
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[1:21] <scummos> are you using sshfs?
[1:21] <shiftplusone> Does the pi continue to work?
[1:21] <Opinie> akasoldats: have you tried using an ethernet cable to see, whether the problem occurs then?
[1:21] <Opinie> or is that what you use to begin with
[1:22] <akasoldats> i've tried a couple of different methods
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[1:23] <shiftplusone> Provide a bit more info of what actually happens.
[1:23] <scummos> are you using sshfs or not
[1:23] <akasoldats> ethernet pc - pc, ethernenet to router then to pc, and now i have a wireless usb for it and hook it to a powered usb hub.
[1:23] <akasoldats> and I use filezilla on my pc to connect to sftp
[1:24] <scummos> put ServerAliveInterval 15 into your .ssh/config for the client
[1:24] <scummos> oh filezilla
[1:24] <scummos> mh
[1:24] <scummos> try sshfs ;p
[1:24] <akasoldats> the problem is anytime I start a transfer it will run for 20-30 secs then the traffic spikes and then its like the nic on the rpi dies
[1:25] <shiftplusone> so it's not even an ssh issue
[1:25] <akasoldats> and I have to hard reboot it to start it back up
[1:25] <akasoldats> no not an ssh issue
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[1:26] <akasoldats> I dont usually bother with sshfs since my main os on my comp is windows.
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[1:26] <scummos> hm alright
[1:27] <scummos> so the pi really crashes? not just network goes down?
[1:27] <shiftplusone> That's the most roundabout way of asking about a a lan chip problem,heh. Not that that's a problem.
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[1:27] <akasoldats> Im not sure if its the lan chip though
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[1:28] <akasoldats> scummos: the pi itself is still usuablt if Im running a gui it just looses internet connectivity
[1:28] <shiftplusone> well it's not sftp/raspbian/raspbmc/ftp/ssh or any of the other things mentioned =D
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[1:28] <shiftplusone> Have you checked dmesg for hints?
[1:29] <akasoldats> Fair enough. But I wasnt sure maybe theres something wierd about the rbmc image.. I dunno
[1:29] <akasoldats> and no, im fairly noobish when it comes to linux stuff
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[1:31] <shiftplusone> That's fair enough. Try again, this time when the lan goes down, type 'dmesg' which may show something interesting
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[1:31] <scummos> yeah look at dmesg and syslog
[1:31] <scummos> also try reloading the LAN driver
[1:32] <akasoldats> :x
[1:32] <akasoldats> I didnt have to load the lan driver in the first place
[1:32] <akasoldats> it was plg n play
[1:33] <shiftplusone> heh
[1:33] <shiftplusone> That doesn't mean you didn't load a driver.
[1:33] <shiftplusone> You might not have done it personally, but your OS did.
[1:34] <akasoldats> true
[1:34] <shiftplusone> If you unload the driver and load it again, it may bring the lan chip back up
[1:34] <shiftplusone> though I wonder, did USB continue to work?
[1:34] <akasoldats> yeah
[1:34] <shiftplusone> ok
[1:35] <akasoldats> everything else went on as nothing happened
[1:35] <akasoldats> just diddnt have any network access..
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[1:35] <scummos> did you try just brining the network interface up and down
[1:35] <akasoldats> yeah
[1:35] <scummos> that's even a level less than reloading the driver
[1:35] <scummos> okay
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[1:36] <akasoldats> I'll have to try later as I'm not in front of it atm
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[1:54] <an3k> may i ask why *!*@unaffiliated/danieldaniel is banned?
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[1:55] <an3k> oh, now i know ... the goatse guy ... :)
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[2:03] <MrPocketz> ohhi
[2:04] <MrPocketz> Any one else having issues with Raspbmc not playing through to the next file? (or, more importantly, knows how to resolve the issue?)
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[2:17] <Macer> awesome. my synology usb port can power the pi
[2:17] <Macer> that makes life easier
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[2:20] <mark_vh> what's the easiest way to send mail from pi to gmail?
[2:20] <shiftplusone> mailx, i think
[2:21] <Macer> mark_vh: alpine or mutt heh
[2:21] <mark_vh> i tried ssmtp and exim4 but have problems with getting it to work, it's complaining about startttls and unsupported protocols etc
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[2:22] <Macer> really? i figured the ones in the repo were built with tls/ssl support
[2:22] <Macer> then again they might be dependent on openssl being installed as well
[2:22] <mark_vh> any way uninstalling lots of stuff can have broken that?
[2:22] * Macer points up
[2:22] <shiftplusone> ah I right, I misread the question.
[2:22] <Macer> you might want to try mutt ... there are a thousand guides on getting it to work with gmail
[2:23] <Macer> not the prettiest interface but still works nonetheless
[2:23] <Macer> exim4 and sendmail are usually used if you want to make an actual email server
[2:23] <Macer> pine/alpine and mutt are actual console based email clients
[2:23] <mark_vh> i want a script to sent the mail though (log file of backup cron job)
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[2:35] <mark_vh> right...uninstall/install of the package fixed it...don't ask me why ;)
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[2:40] <MrPocketz> Anyone with Raspbmc know how to disable it from trying to scan the entire contents of a media sorce?
[2:40] <MrPocketz> source* ?
[2:41] <shiftplusone> #raspbmc
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[2:44] <robtow> I'm having mouse problems with running 2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian.img with a freshly compiled qemu (as per http://xecdesign.com/qemu-emulating-raspberry-pi-the-easy-way/ ) - the mouse tracks, but click/double-click left button does nothing; right-click brings up a panel add/remove dialogue box, with no subsequent action (control-alt does rlease the mouse, tho').
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[2:45] <MrPocketz> ahha. Thanks shiftplusone
[2:45] <shiftplusone> np
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[2:48] <robtow> The qemu invocation I'm using is here: http://pastebin.com/YgTUbDdH
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[2:49] <VetteWork> Put in USB Wifi dongle (the one Adafruit sells), Pi rebooted and rainbow screen came up, then nothing... doesnt do anything but show rainbow screen then black now... any thoughts?
[2:50] <shiftplusone> robtow, which OS?
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[2:51] <robtow> shiftplusone - running qemu under Ubuntu 12.04
[2:52] <shiftplusone> Hm... I haven't heard of that happening before =/
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[2:56] <robtow> It *is* odd combination of behaviors
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[3:20] <robtow> I am suspecting the kernel I downloaded ( wget??http://xecdesign.com/downloads/linux-qemu/kernel-qemu )
[3:20] <shiftplusone> Lies!
[3:21] <shiftplusone> I compiled that kernel and haven't had any complaints about the kernel itself. It sounds like a qemu issue.
[3:25] <shiftplusone> Anyway, off to work. Let me know if you figure out what the issue is.
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[3:47] <tomw889> hey?
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[3:50] <rikkib> Two cameras looking at 7 ARM Boards... Two flavors. RPi & STM32V http://www.bencom.co.nz/cam/
[3:51] <tomw889> Are they yours?
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[3:53] <rikkib> All mine
[3:54] <rikkib> I have 6 RPi and 3 STM32V
[3:54] <Gordio> 6 RPi? o_O
[3:55] <tomw889> looks great!
[3:55] <rikkib> That is my desk where I do my devel
[3:56] <rikkib> I am on fixed IP here at home and using my gateway to aggregate the two RPi cams
[3:56] <rikkib> motion softway
[3:56] <tomw889> i see
[3:56] <rikkib> software
[3:57] <tomw889> I've got to set up dyndns today... unfortunately I don't have a static IP
[3:57] <tomw889> I'm in AU btw!
[3:57] <rikkib> Lots toys, lots of ideas so little time
[3:58] <rikkib> Wonder how log test cam 1 will run
[3:58] <tomw889> haha
[3:58] <rikkib> It is running on updated kernel the other on old kernel I know does not crash
[3:59] <rikkib> First time for a month or so testing the new kernel/drivers
[3:59] <rikkib> Usually crashes
[3:59] <tomw889> What kernel # the stable one?
[4:00] <rikkib> No such thing as stable in RPi land yet I doubt
[4:00] <rikkib> Hang on I do uname for you
[4:01] <rikkib> Linux raspberrypi 3.6.11+ #362 PREEMPT Tue Jan 22 14:52:21 GMT 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux
[4:01] <tomw889> yeah I meant which one are you finding more stable?
[4:01] <tomw889> ahh 3.6.11
[4:01] <tomw889> what distro is it?
[4:02] <rikkib> Linux alarmpi 3.1.9+ #168 PREEMPT Sat Jul 14 18:56:31 BST 2012 armv6l GNU/Linux
[4:02] <rikkib> Raspbian
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[4:03] <tomw889> I've been trying to work with arch linux arm recently, but I have to say i just straight out prefer Debian
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[4:04] <rikkib> Slackware first then I changed to Debian... Started in 1997 something.
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[4:04] <rikkib> So Raspbian is right up my alley
[4:05] <rikkib> Nothing I can't do with a Linux box.
[4:05] <tomw889> Slackware is my favorite distro for more advanced stuff.. like LFS etc etc
[4:06] <tomw889> and from what I understand it mostly conforms to LSB :)
[4:06] <rikkib> I doubt I would like going back now
[4:06] <tomw889> hmm yeah
[4:07] <rikkib> Yeah I found my other meter leads... Hiding behind a PC case side on the floor.
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[4:08] <rikkib> Three meters and two oscilloscopes...
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[4:09] <rikkib> Ready to do some servicing work this year
[4:09] <rikkib> Or more test if it works flog it else junk it...
[4:09] <tomw889> cool, I haven't done too much with my Pi.. Just a home server
[4:10] <rikkib> I have access to a big store of old stuff at a friends PC recycle company... He gets allsorts as well.
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[4:11] <rikkib> I have been focusing of two projects
[4:11] <rikkib> on
[4:11] <rikkib> Cam/intercom/gate opener and one with just cams
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[4:12] <DMackey> Hacker Builds the Voice-Controlled Raspberry Pi R2-D2 You???re Looking For http://www.wired.com/design/2013/01/raspberry-pi-r2d2/
[4:12] <rikkib>
[4:12] <DMackey> ?
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[4:19] <Primer> rikkib: where is that?
[4:19] <Primer> Looks like "motion"
[4:19] <Primer> I recognize the timestamp font and location :)
[4:19] <LilSnoop4> hi, i just got my raspmc setup all up and running. but nothing seems to play. i can try any video from icefilms, 1channel or even navi-x. once i select the video it says working then stops. i can try the same one on my ipad 2 and they boot right up. please help.
[4:20] <LilSnoop4> Thanks!
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[4:23] <rikkib> Cam is in Auckland city and running motion on the RPi and the gateway
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[4:24] <rikkib> Motion keeps crashing on my test setup with two cameras
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[4:27] <rikkib> Application transferred too few scanlines
[4:27] <rikkib> *** glibc detected *** motion: munmap_chunk(): invalid pointer: 0x084854f0 ***
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[4:31] <rikkib> Segmentation fault
[4:31] <rikkib> wow
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[6:04] <aDro> Haha, I juryrigged a reset switch without a solding iron.
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[6:04] <rikkib> Wow... Just harvested 40 pounds (15kg) of spuds. Two rows. 6 rows to dig.
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[7:40] <x42> i'm looking for a mobile engery source for my raspi. any suggestions?
[7:40] <mpmc> A battery? :p
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[7:45] <brady2600> i wonder if anyone out there has come up with a solar rapsberry pi outdoor station kind of thing
[7:45] <brady2600> like something with a solar panel , a motercycle battery , a tiny charge controller
[7:46] <brady2600> something that would likely keep running all the time given normal sun activity
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[7:53] <GChriss1> x42: it's possible (although not currently recommended) to power your pi w/ 5V over the audio jack
[7:53] <GChriss1> "Demo: Powering a Raspberry Pi via the 3.5mm Audio Jack" https://vimeo.com/58277464
[7:55] <GChriss1> might be helpful if you need to switch out the microUSB power source w/o rebooting the pi?
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[7:57] <GChriss1> or maybe to offset main-power draw
[7:57] <piney0> GChriss1, that's cool. didn't know that trick
[7:58] <GChriss1> also see http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Category:Battery_%26_Power
[7:58] <shiftplusone> It's also handy if you need your pi to serve as a paperweight
[7:58] <piney0> i would suggest if anyone did try that to NOT plug in / remove the 3.5mm plug while it has power cause you will most likely short the pins for a split second while doing so
[7:59] <GChriss1> had considered that, but it's held up w/o issue as far as I can tell
[7:59] <x42> oh thanks gchriss1!
[7:59] <GChriss1> the OLPC peeps are really versed on power options
[7:59] <shiftplusone> Except that the people who designed the board gave pretty clear warnings about this.
[8:00] <x42> i would appreciate that too brady2600 - already thought about solar powering the raspi too
[8:01] <shiftplusone> "Just a quick addition to the thread. After speaking to Gert, he has confirmed this is a very silly thing to attempt, and will more than likely destroy your Raspberry Pi. DOING THIS WILL BREAK YOUR RASPBERRY PI AND WILL VOID YOUR WARRANTY." "So, as a final warning DO NOT TRY ANYTHING IN THIS THREAD AT HOME UNLESS YOU WANT TO THROW AWAY YOUR LONG WAITED FOR DEVICE AFTER BLOWING IT UP."... and so on
[8:01] <shiftplusone> up to you what you do with your pi though
[8:02] <shiftplusone> Lol, wait you're the guy who started this, ey?
[8:03] <GChriss1> not quite, but almost
[8:03] <shiftplusone> Ah, my mistake.
[8:03] <GChriss1> no worries
[8:06] <Macer> powering through the 3.5mm jack? heh
[8:07] <Macer> that would be..... odd
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[8:07] <shiftplusone> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=41&t=28656
[8:08] <shiftplusone> I don't know if it's fake or not, I haven't tried it myself, but at the very least, it's a bad idea.
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[8:10] <_GhouL_> hi. I recently got my RPI. but I am facing some problems with the keyboard. sometimes it works and sometimes not. is that common?
[8:11] <shiftplusone> Is it a logitech or microsoft keyboard... or a keyboard with a built in hub, backlit keys or an lcd screen?
[8:11] <shiftplusone> Also, is it connected straight to the pi or through a hub?
[8:13] <shiftplusone> And last question, have you tried updating the firmware with rpi-update?
[8:14] <weltall> what's wrong with microsoft keyboards mine works fine
[8:15] <shiftplusone> Nothing wrong with them, but it seems like they have a few models which don't
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[8:15] <weltall> ah
[8:16] <_GhouL_> shiftplusone, it is a logitech keyboard , no update, directly connected to rpi
[8:17] <_GhouL_> my power supply gives 850mA. I thought it is enough to feed the whole thing
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[8:18] <x42> maybe it is a cpu issue? does it happen, when the cpu idles?
[8:18] <shiftplusone> should be, yes. I'd try updating, but I don't think it will help. Most likely an incompatable keyboard.
[8:19] <x42> i sometime have a slow terminal session to my raspi, when the raspi is compiling
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[8:20] <_GhouL_> i think I will give it few other tries or update the firmware and see what happens
[8:20] <x42> how long does it take to compile ruby on a raspi?
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[8:22] <_GhouL_> x42, are you asking me?! I have no idea :)
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[8:23] <x42> not a good idea to compile anything on a raspi :)
[8:25] <blahee> ruby with test is likely something like 2-3h
[8:27] <_GhouL_> my keyboard keeps hanging in a simple terminal. once I fix that i will try some opencv projects on it :) but first things first
[8:27] <x42> thanks blahee
[8:27] <x42> i feared it might take month :)
[8:28] <blahee> x42: gcc 4.7.x from src.rpm is something like 3 days ... might even been 4days - i am patient :)
[8:28] <x42> might be instructive to try installing gentoo on raspi using distcc crosscompiling
[8:29] <x42> ha blahee
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[8:34] <tomw889> Hello?
[8:34] <tomw889> Has anyone got Dynamic DNS running on their Pi?
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[8:34] <dape8708> hello back
[8:34] <tomw889> hi
[8:34] <dape8708> yes, i am using a script with curl and host (under Arch) to deal with my he.net nameservers
[8:35] <tomw889> oh wow, well I'm just trying to work out which DynDNS provides the best free service.. also I'd like to use my domain, not some sub-domain
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[8:35] <dape8708> check dns.he.net
[8:36] <dape8708> works flawless for me since oct 2012
[8:36] <tomw889> will check it out right now, thanks!! freenode never fails!!
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[8:39] <dape8708> yeah, tho i don't know exactly what program to recommend for updating he.net ds servers, if you need my script just tell
[8:40] <tomw889> would you be able to send me the script? That would be amazing :)
[8:40] <tomw889> I'd love to have a look
[8:45] <x42> maybe ipv6 ist what you want tomw889
[8:46] <tomw889> Isn't?
[8:46] <tomw889> Yeah I'm just reading over it now.. I don't use an IPv6 Addr.. My router does not support them..
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[8:50] <dape8708> tomw889, hang on
[8:50] <dape8708> x42, you can use ipv4 stuff too
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[8:53] <tomw889> oh yep you can..
[8:53] <tomw889> Thanks dape8708
[8:54] <dape8708> tomw889, here's the tiny script to be run from cron every 15-30 min or so.. http://pastebin.com/Zp33rjeF
[8:54] <dape8708> has both the ipv4 and ipv6 sections, feel free to comment what you don't need
[8:55] <tomw889> wow that looks great! thank's so much
[8:55] <dape8708> adapt it, probably isnt optimized, check the log path and all according to your system
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[8:56] <tomw889> yep, I'll give it a shot :)
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[8:58] <tomw889> It looks great, can't thank you enough
[8:58] <tomw889> are you a sysadmin?
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[9:00] <dape8708> only at work :P don't forget to set your PASSWORD with he.net in the record special field
[9:01] <dape8708> i actually run that script on my pi for its ipv6 addy only - http://www.pi6.ro/linfo/
[9:01] <tomw889> It's your job? I'm studying for my CCNA soon some linux certs too. I really want to be a sysadmin haha
[9:01] <tomw889> yep just password at the top
[9:02] <tomw889> I'll comment out all the ipv6 stuff
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[9:08] <dape8708> and you can comment if you don't want the log in /var/log or adjust as you wish
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[9:10] <x42> what language do you use to read from /dev/ttyUSB
[9:10] <x42> i recently used ruby - wich is a little pain in the ass on raspi :)
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[10:11] <_julian> hi
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[10:11] <_julian> has anyone had problems with texture coordinates in glesv2 on raspberry? I actually always get a corder pixel of the texture for all output pixels.
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[10:12] <_julian> the texture itself seeems fine, because if I change vertices for my texture coordinate to be like [ 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5, 0.5 ] I do get the middle of the input picture on all output pixels
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[10:43] <Mortvert> I think i've solved my crashing issue. Or so i hope.
[10:44] <Mortvert> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=14394
[10:44] <Mortvert> People reported their RPIs crashing under load. Did what it said in the thread, running a stress-test right now
[10:44] <Mortvert> Nothing is happening so far
[10:44] <Mortvert> Or not. Went down again
[10:47] <shiftplusone> Have you checked your voltage?
[10:47] <Mortvert> No voltometer
[10:48] <shiftplusone> Do the tongue test
[10:48] <shiftplusone> (don't)
[10:48] <Mortvert> (I know)
[10:48] * Mortvert sighs
[10:48] <Mortvert> What is left for me to do is to buy a new charger and hope
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[10:48] <Mortvert> Thought people have reported that they successfully ran their Pi's from this kind of charger
[10:49] <Mortvert> Hm. it still crashed, even i did nothing
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[10:57] <Mortvert> shiftplusone - what else i can test in meanwhile i'm waiting for RS to reply?
[10:57] <shiftplusone> Other than the lick test, I don't know.
[10:58] <shiftplusone> You could try powering it from your pc's usb port or something
[10:58] <Mortvert> That's what i'm doing right now
[10:58] <shiftplusone> or different cables
[10:58] <Mortvert> Again, it went down under the load. ._.
[10:58] <Mortvert> I'm leaving it idle to see if it happens again
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[11:05] <Jck_true> Mortvert: You should get yourself a multimeter through - It's like 1$
[11:05] <shiftplusone> ....don't get a $1 multimeter.
[11:06] <Jck_true> 10$ :D
[11:06] <Mortvert> hmmm
[11:06] <Mortvert> If i power if off PC
[11:06] <shiftplusone> go up another order of magnitude and multiply it a few times and you're getting there.
[11:06] <Mortvert> it doesn't go down when not under a load
[11:06] <Mortvert> I think i'll go and fetch 1A nokia charger
[11:07] <Mortvert> i'll see if this pi feels like going down when powered off PC
[11:07] <Jck_true> shiftplusone: Hmm I still vote having a cheap multimeter is better than not having one
[11:08] <shiftplusone> I vote that a multimeter that you're unsure about is the same as no multimeter. If you measure something that should be 5V and you see 4.5V, how do you know if the multimeter is wrong or the voltage is actually 4.5V?
[11:09] <Jck_true> They really aint that bad - My ~15USD measure DC voltage just as good as my 200 USD (It's slower updating through)
[11:10] <Jck_true> (230V DC is not as accurate through)
[11:10] <shiftplusone> Sure, but you have a $200 one to check, heh.
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[11:10] <shiftplusone> If you just had the cheapest ebay one then it would be a different story
[11:11] <Jck_true> Suppose you're right
[11:12] <Jck_true> Mortvert: http://dx.com/c/electrical-tools-499/measurement-analysis-426/multimeters-428?Utm_rid=58973692
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[11:12] * neilr just cleaned out my mouse for the first time in about 3 years. I swear it has it's own ecosystem in there.
[11:13] <shiftplusone> clean out a mouse?
[11:13] * shiftplusone hasn't done that since the days mice had balls in em
[11:13] <neilr> My mouse still does
[11:13] <Jck_true> neilr: Seems like it's weekly now that I use a small screwdriver to scrape out the nasty sticky shit between the buttons on mine...
[11:13] <shiftplusone> ah
[11:14] <neilr> Not sure what to do with the clunge that I cleaned out of it now. Wonder what's actually in there?
[11:15] <neilr> Dead skin, fluff, grease. Sounds like a McDonalds.
[11:15] <shiftplusone> heh
[11:15] <shiftplusone> Jck_true, btw, language >=/
[11:16] <Jck_true> shiftplusone: Right :| Wouldn't wanna repeat my last ban...
[11:16] <Laban> Is the performance better for rPI with just grub on a SD-card that boots a system that is on USB?
[11:16] <Laban> Instead of the system bein on the SD.
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[11:16] <neilr> With RISC OS, yes. Move as much of the OS to an HDD as you can.
[11:16] <shiftplusone> Jck_true, did I ban you before? O_o I don't recall banning you.
[11:16] <Jck_true> shiftplusone: Just a kick ages back - Used the f word
[11:17] <shiftplusone> ah ok
[11:17] <Laban> neilr: But not Linux?
[11:17] <neilr> laban: Sorry, don't know, I don't use it.
[11:17] <shiftplusone> Laban, what do you mean? grub doesn't run on arm.
[11:17] <neilr> (well, not much anyway, unless I have to)
[11:18] <Jck_true> neilr: Speedtests I've seen show 30mb/sec to USB and the same to and from an SD card... So with a high quality SD card I don't see an upside
[11:18] <gordonDrogon> it's generally reckoned that putting the OS on a separate uSB device is faster than the on-board SD.
[11:18] <shiftplusone> but yes, many people report that usb is faster.
[11:18] <gordonDrogon> 20BM/sec is the fastest an SD card does, so I'm surprised at 30MB/sec.
[11:18] <gordonDrogon> the down-side is that you need the USB drive connected to boot it.
[11:18] <neilr> I got ~30MB/sec from my HDD, ~16 from my SD card last time I looekd
[11:19] <neilr> ^looked
[11:19] <gordonDrogon> and it then goes from a nice little compact unit to something requiring more cables, power, considerations, etc.
[11:19] <Jck_true> And your LAN will suffer...
[11:19] <neilr> It's always a compromise!
[11:19] <gordonDrogon> so personally, while it's of academic interest, I've no inclination whatsoever to run my Pi's that way myself.
[11:19] <Jck_true> 30MB :( Get off my lawn... My laptop barely writes 20mb :(
[11:19] <neilr> But I agree with the problem of requiring extra cables and power
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[11:28] <prjkt> hi. from raspbian, how can I enlarge the parititon size - currently 2 gb - to the physical size of the actual card - 4 gb?
[11:28] <Jck_true> prjkt: From the terminal run "sudo raspi-config"
[11:29] <prjkt> and then?
[11:29] <Jck_true> Select the resize partion option
[11:29] <prjkt> "expand_rootfs" reported an error
[11:29] <Jck_true> Reboot - And wait for the filesystem to resize
[11:29] <prjkt> "There was an error running do_expand_rootfs"
[11:30] <prjkt> does it use python? i uninstalled that to get some room back
[11:30] <prjkt> let me reinstall that and try again
[11:30] <shiftplusone> just a bash script
[11:30] <shiftplusone> not python
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[11:32] <dape8708> you can resize with gparted livecd if you cannot on the pi itself
[11:32] <shiftplusone> or do it manually on the pi. The elinux wiki has instructions for that.
[11:32] <dape8708> just boot your PC or Mac with gparted livecd, have the sdcard in the reader connected to the computer and you should be able to get it resized on the graphical interface
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[11:35] <prjkt> okay i'll be honest this is a qemu img
[11:35] <prjkt> i resized using qemu-img resize
[11:35] <prjkt> and now i want to resize in the software too
[11:35] <shiftplusone> shame on you
[11:35] <prjkt> lol
[11:36] <prjkt> so how do i get it to fill the new 4 gb image it's actually on?
[11:36] <shiftplusone> manually
[11:36] <shiftplusone> Are you using qemu to run the image?
[11:37] <prjkt> yes
[11:38] <prjkt> so what should i do exactly?
[11:38] <shiftplusone> boot it up, run fdisk and take note of the start sector
[11:38] <shiftplusone> delete the partition and re-create it again from the same start sector, but to the end of the image
[11:39] <shiftplusone> then reboot and use resize2fs or whatever that tool is called
[11:39] <shiftplusone> at leas that way if you see an error, it will tell you exactly what's wrong, rather than just 'there was an error'
[11:40] <prjkt> what do i put inot fdisk?
[11:41] <prjkt> fdisk -l rootfs doesn't list anything...
[11:41] <prjkt> into*
[11:41] <shiftplusone> letters, some numbers
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[11:41] <shiftplusone> http://elinux.org/RPi_Resize_Flash_Partitions#Manually_resizing_the_SD_card_on_Raspberry_Pi
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[11:42] <shiftplusone> I think you'll need to replace mmcblk0 with sda
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[11:42] <prjkt> thanks! trying to follow that now...
[11:42] <shiftplusone> sudo fdisk /dev/sda
[11:44] <prjkt> okay now i can type commands
[11:44] <prjkt> i typed p to show, and it lists /dev/sda1 with start of 8192
[11:44] <prjkt> and /dev/sda2 with start of 122880
[11:44] <shiftplusone> you want to resize sda2
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[11:45] <prjkt> can you tell me what to type?
[11:45] <prjkt> the link is confusing
[11:46] <shiftplusone> No, it's as straight forward as it gets.
[11:46] <prjkt> sda2 starts at 122880 which i know from typing p
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[11:46] <shiftplusone> actually I think the instructions are a little inaccurate
[11:46] <prjkt> this is what the link says: d, 3 to delete the swap partition
[11:46] <prjkt> d, 2 to delete the main partition
[11:46] <prjkt> n p 2 to create a new primary pa
[11:46] <shiftplusone> do you see an sda3?
[11:46] <prjkt> no
[11:47] <shiftplusone> good
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[11:47] <shiftplusone> so skip d,3
[11:47] <prjkt> ah so d, 3 doesn't apply to me
[11:47] <prjkt> ok
[11:47] <prjkt> okay i will type d, 2
[11:47] <prjkt> and then n p 2
[11:47] <shiftplusone> not d <comma> 2
[11:47] <shiftplusone> d <enter>
[11:47] <shiftplusone> 2<enter>
[11:47] <prjkt> ah okay
[11:47] <shiftplusone> basically, follow the prompts
[11:48] <prjkt> wow that link is super not literal then
[11:48] <shiftplusone> It makes some assumptions, yes.
[11:49] <prjkt> and i type 122880 for the start?
[11:49] <shiftplusone> yes
[11:49] <shiftplusone> How did you get qemu going anyway? xecdesign.com ?
[11:50] <shiftplusone> or figured it out yourself?
[11:50] <prjkt> I downloaded a complete image that has a bat file.
[11:50] <prjkt> i couldn't figure it out myself, it was never working for me.
[11:50] <shiftplusone> ah, nice
[11:51] <prjkt> like this - http://www.sayargyi.com/content/?p=405
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[11:51] <prjkt> there is literally a single run.bat file to run after unzipping the zip file.
[11:52] <prjkt> i recommend it for anyone who quickly wants to emulate raspbian on windows
[11:54] <shiftplusone> what's the kernel filename?
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[11:54] <prjkt> okay i rebooted. now do I type "sudo resize2fs /dev/sda2"?
[11:54] <shiftplusone> probably, yes.
[11:54] <prjkt> the kernel filename is kernel-qemu
[11:55] <shiftplusone> ok
[11:55] <prjkt> anyway since it's a whole image you can proably just download the zip file and run it from your linux version of qemu
[11:55] <prjkt> since it has an .img file n it
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[11:56] <shiftplusone> heh, I'll pass =D
[11:57] <shiftplusone> It's based off of this http://xecdesign.com/qemu-emulating-raspberry-pi-the-easy-way/
[11:57] <shiftplusone> -of
[11:57] <prjkt> maybe it is
[11:57] <shiftplusone> just packaged for windows users.
[11:57] <prjkt> all i know is that i just ran the batch file lol
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[11:57] <prjkt> yay this worked!
[11:57] <prjkt> thanks for the help resizing my tables.
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[11:58] <shiftplusone> well it is, since the command line is the same and the kernel filename is the same. I wrote that tutorial, so I am happy it came in handy =D
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[11:58] <shiftplusone> np
[11:59] <prjkt> ah lol
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[11:59] <prjkt> yeah you might want to take the commas out of the commands for a beginner like me :)
[11:59] <shiftplusone> no, I mean the xecdesign article, not the wiki >_<
[12:00] <shiftplusone> I don't like the wiki
[12:00] <prjkt> ah ok
[12:05] <prjkt> anyway thanks again for your helped
[12:05] <prjkt> for your help
[12:05] <prjkt> i'll be going
[12:05] <shiftplusone> take care
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[12:12] <hexploit> I was connecting my Alpha AWUS wireless adapter to the pi by using a Y cable whose one end was connected to my lap. I removed the microusb power adapter and the pi is still powered on.
[12:13] <SpeedEvil> model b?
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[12:18] <hexploit> sorry my internet connection got reset
[12:19] <hexploit> so...is it alright if we power the pi through *ITS* usb port rather than through the microusb?
[12:20] <mjr> it works (for the later revisions) though is unsupported, and bypasses the polyfuse. Not sure of the warranty considerations due to the latter detail.
[12:20] <hexploit> ah alright...
[12:20] <hexploit> thanks!
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[12:27] <aldasa> set
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[12:42] <tobier> good afternoon
[12:43] <zleap> hello
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[12:43] <zleap> .how are things in the PI world ?
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[12:44] <FR^2> my raspi A works, up and running. My raspi B doesn't and I'm still waiting for an answer by RS
[12:44] <tobier> zleap: well, I got my first Pi yesterday, so that's how things are in my Pi world :)
[12:45] <dape8708> zleap, i have ipv6 on my pi - http://www.pi6.ro/linfo
[12:45] <zleap> cool
[12:45] <FR^2> Mortvert: Any new information on your issue?
[12:45] <zleap> nice,
[12:46] <zleap> is that default now for ipv6 or do you set it up as ipv6
[12:46] <zleap> dape This web page is not available
[12:46] <dape8708> zleap, yeah, its IPv6 only :)
[12:46] <pronto> [ill]will: i heard you like bing
[12:46] <tobier> are many of you here doing bare metal programming on the pi?
[12:46] <gordonDrogon> I can see it...
[12:47] * gordonDrogon has IPv6.
[12:47] <zleap> hmm
[12:47] <zleap> ah
[12:47] <zleap> so can we have both ipv6 and ipv4 at the same time
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[12:47] <gordonDrogon> can do.
[12:48] <dape8708> you can, i don't wanna set up ipv4 dnat for my pi so i left it ipv6 only :D
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[12:48] <gordonDrogon> most of my servers are setup like that. e.g. type 'host unicorn.drogon.net' ...
[12:48] <pronto> i route traffic to my Pi's webpage via a vps+port redir+ssh tunnel xD
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[12:49] <gordonDrogon> got native IPv6 here. no tunnels.
[12:49] <pronto> [you] ---> [internets] --> [linode vps] ---> [port redir] --> [ssh tunnel] --> [my house] --> [rasbperry pi]
[12:49] <pronto> i'm surprised how stable it's been
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[12:50] <Dagger2> pronto: see, it's stuff like that that's the reason we need to be doing IPv6
[12:50] <gordonDrogon> quite.
[12:51] <Dagger2> because it could easily just be [you] -> [internets] -> [raspberry pi]
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[12:51] <gordonDrogon> it annoys me that the foundations image doesn't enable IPv6 by default )-:
[12:51] <pronto> Dagger2: unless i don't want direct access to my homes IP :p
[12:51] <Dagger2> pronto: say hello to firewalls
[12:51] <gordonDrogon> pronto, we have these things called firewalls now ...
[12:51] <pronto> because i could just do that anyways
[12:51] <Jck_true> No need for IPv6 - I got my 3 static IP's allready - Once the price gets high enough I'll might sell one :D
[12:52] <Dagger2> they're this new invention that let you block access to stuff you don't want people accessing
[12:52] <gordonDrogon> Jck_true, you can't sell an IP address.
[12:52] <Jck_true> gordonDrogon: I know :)
[12:53] <Dagger2> 3 is like lolnothing :/
[12:53] <azk> so anyone found any long term problems with running the pi on turbo?
[12:53] <Dagger2> I'd need about 30 over my two networks
[12:53] <gordonDrogon> I have a /29 at home/office in IPv4 land as well as a /56 in IPv6 land.
[12:54] <zleap> gordonDrogon, yeah i gues if it was default it would put people on the righty path to begin with
[12:54] <Dagger2> and to be honest, screw counting out individual IPs. that's such a pain
[12:54] <gordonDrogon> my hosted servers have a /48..
[12:54] <Dagger2> never have to even think about that with v6
[12:54] <pronto> http://raspberry.bagels.xxx/ < plus the load time isn't bad
[12:54] <zleap> as in ipv6 which is where people want to be heading
[12:55] <pronto> plus, so few people acuatly have v6, i don't see it taking off any time soon . in any real sense
[12:56] <zleap> pronto, how many people know about it, or even how to switch
[12:56] <Jck_true> pronto: Straight to my home router http://furyfi.re/
[12:57] <Dagger2> if you check Google's graphs, they're growing exponentially
[12:57] <tobier> no-one is doing bare metal programming? :O
[12:57] <zleap> if it was default then that would not be n issue they would just be using it, but does that not need a ipv6 router
[12:57] <zleap> tobier, what is bare metal programming ?
[12:58] <Dagger2> extrapolating forwards, they should show something like 6% of clients in 2 years, 45% in 4 years, and 250% in 6 years
[12:58] <tobier> zleap: programing directly to the hardware, without an OS in between
[12:58] <zleap> ah
[12:58] <zleap> so assembler sort of thing
[12:58] <Dagger2> zleap: honestly though, how many people know about IPv4 or how to set that up?
[12:58] <zleap> Dagger2, i just asked that
[12:58] <Dagger2> people get this stuff via their ISPs
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[12:59] <tobier> I thought most people got the Pi to program on, but oh well :P
[12:59] <zleap> sorry you said ipv4
[12:59] <zleap> tobier, that is the idea, people are usingf it as a cheap media / torrent device
[12:59] <zleap> :(
[12:59] <pronto> ...wait, people are using rpi's for torrents?
[12:59] <zleap> pronto, think so
[12:59] <Mortvert> FR^2 - nope.
[13:00] <zleap> its a cheap computer, us hackers use it for programming
[13:00] <Mortvert> I just got a new charger and multimeter (my pocket ;_;)
[13:00] <FR^2> Mortvert: :/
[13:00] <pronto> oh wow ..that' must be horrible xD , demhashtimes
[13:00] <FR^2> Mortvert: Okay, good luck. Keep us updated ;)
[13:00] <tobier> zleap: what are you programming on it?
[13:00] <zleap> I am using gordonDrogon s return to basic to interface with his ladder board
[13:01] <zleap> starting to use python for the same purpose
[13:01] <zleap> also learning python on codeacademy
[13:01] <pronto> python \o/
[13:01] <pronto> you on git hub?
[13:01] <zleap> me
[13:01] <zleap> no
[13:01] <zleap> not yet anyway
[13:02] * gordonDrogon isn't a fan of python.
[13:02] <zleap> I haven't written much to make it worth that yet, oh dones some scratch stuff
[13:02] <tobier> Ithe project I want to do isome form of emulator, running directly on the bare metal
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[13:02] <dape8708> zleap, what's codeacademy?
[13:02] <zleap> online learning for programming
[13:02] <zleap> www.codeacademy.com
[13:02] <pronto> also http://learncodethehardway.org/ <
[13:02] <zleap> or #codeacademy on freenode, (not tht there are many users in there)
[13:03] <tobier> perhaps an Apple-1, PET or something :P
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[13:04] <dape8708> cool site, thx zleap :)
[13:04] <zleap> fnp
[13:04] <zleap> np
[13:04] <tobier> github.com/tobier <-- just putting this out there so we all can follow eachother :D
[13:05] <zleap> and for info on return to basic https://projects.drogon.net/return-to-basic/
[13:05] <gordonDrogon> I have an Apple II ...
[13:05] <zleap> cool
[13:05] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/lode.jpg
[13:06] <zleap> ah loderunner
[13:06] <gordonDrogon> brb. coffee time.
[13:06] <Davespice> omg, and the floppies still work?
[13:06] <Davespice> chrikey, those 5.25" ones wore the absolute worst for byte rot
[13:06] <azk> sick
[13:07] <tobier> for some reason I've forked github repos that I can't remember forking
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[13:07] <tobier> is there a keyboard shortcut for forking that I'm accidently pressing or something?
[13:08] <tobier> or maybe I'm pressing work when I'm thinking "star"
[13:08] <tobier> *fork
[13:09] <apo> or maybe you should stop hubbing gits when you're drunk
[13:09] <tobier> apo: :(
[13:09] <azk> hubba hubba
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[13:18] <gordonDrogon> yes, those 32 year old floppies still work fine.
[13:19] <azk> nice
[13:19] <Mortvert> :|
[13:19] <Mortvert> This isn't good
[13:20] <Mortvert> when my Pi dies, the voltage jumps to 5.15V
[13:20] <nid0> whats wrong with that?
[13:20] <Mortvert> when it's working it's 4.85
[13:20] <gordonDrogon> Mortvert, you've not sent it back yet?
[13:20] <Mortvert> gordonDrogon - waiting for RS reply
[13:21] <gordonDrogon> the voltage jumps because the PSU isn't well regulated, so when the Pi stops working, it stops consuming energy, so the voltage goes up.
[13:21] <nid0> both ends of that scale are still within spec though
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[13:24] <Mortvert> gordonDrogon - if they don't reply till friday - i'm going to send the pi to them
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[13:30] <nid0> interesting register article on the pi
[13:31] <Mortvert> FR^2 - i'm going to RMA the pi. I can reliably reproduce the crash
[13:32] <zleap> RMA ?
[13:32] <FR^2> RMA? I'm not familiar with that abreviation
[13:32] <nid0> return it
[13:32] <Mortvert> Return it under warranty
[13:32] <zleap> AH
[13:32] <FR^2> Mortvert: Where did you purchase it?
[13:32] <Mortvert> RS components
[13:32] <zleap> same here
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[13:32] <FR^2> Mortvert: same here :/ They didn't react on my mail yet.
[13:33] <zleap> can you phone them or use the online support chat thingy they have
[13:33] <tobier> gordonDrogon: do you make your own pcbs?
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[13:34] <Mortvert> online support chat, zleap?
[13:34] <zleap> i am sure there is someting that popped up once on their site, to chat to sales at least
[13:36] <Mortvert> http://uk.rs-online.com/web/generalDisplay.html?id=help&file=complaint&cm_sp=HelpHub-uk-_-HelpHub-_-complaint hahaha
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[13:39] <Mortvert> Must've been a bad batch, FR^2, zleap.
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[13:40] <gordonDrogon> tobier, I design them, then send them off to someone to make them.
[13:41] <Mortvert> Do we have anyone from the forums on here?
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[13:43] <Davespice> Mortvert: if you go here, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=28 you'll see plent of people complaining about it
[13:44] <_julian> has anyone else problems rendering gles textures? I can only get one pixel out of the texture, no matter how the vertexarray for texture coordinates is set
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[13:54] <FR^2> Davespice: thx
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[13:58] <Mortvert> Whee, i blew the entire house fuses with my voltometer
[13:58] <Mortvert> Because i've chosen unfused instead of fused x_x
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[13:59] <Viper-7> you checked the current between active and neutral?
[13:59] <Viper-7> hint: its lots.
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[14:00] <Mortvert> Viper - it's just that i've been dumb and wired the meter wrong :p
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[14:03] <Davespice> _julian: I can send you some code if you like
[14:04] <Davespice> _julian: I've got a nice bit of code to generate a texture from code without having to load and convert an image file
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[14:06] <_julian> Davespice: actually the texture itself seems to be fine. I can output arbritary pixels of the input texture when I hardcode the vertex position to the point I want to see
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[14:06] <_julian> but the texture position is not adapting to the position of the drawn fragment.
[14:06] <_julian> (I am working on port gstreamer eglglessink to raspberry)
[14:07] <mgottschlag> you mean, interpolation does not work? or the code always uses the coordinates of the first vertex?
[14:08] <Davespice> well, I can offer you some code that I've made which just shows a spinning quad with a polygon textured, and you can see how I did it and check for differences?
[14:08] <_julian> mgottschlag: it always uses the coordinate of the last vertex I pass in
[14:08] <Davespice> but are you just trying to change the texture co-ords?
[14:08] <_julian> mgottschlag: this is the relevant code snippet http://pastebin.com/50y3fHSX
[14:09] <_julian> Davespice: what do you mean by trying to change?
[14:09] <_julian> if I change any of the first 6 elements in vertices[] it does not make a difference. if I change the last two it will affect the position of the pixel taken from the texture
[14:10] <_julian> Davespice: if you post your code I will compare, maybe I can find something.
[14:11] <Davespice> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/14125489/RaspberryPi/texturetriangle.zip
[14:13] <Davespice> see the createTexturesFromCode method, if its any use
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[14:19] <_julian> can't see much of difference to what my code does
[14:20] <faLUCE> hi. I want to buy a raspberry pi + all the needed items. http://raspberrypi.rsdelivers.com/default.aspx?cl=1 <---- I see, here, not only cases, but also "enclosures": what is an enclosure? Should it be added to the case?
[14:20] <Mortvert> Don't buy from RS
[14:21] <Mortvert> I bought one from them, have to send it back on RMA
[14:21] <faLUCE> Mortvert: why???
[14:21] <Mortvert> It's damaged in some way, i have no idea in what way thought.
[14:21] <Mortvert> It just shuts itself down randomly
[14:21] <Joeboy> I doubt that's RS's fault
[14:22] <Mortvert> Joeboy - pretty few people who bought pi's from RS have same problem
[14:22] <faLUCE> Mortvert: did they send another raspberry to you?
[14:22] <Mortvert> lately
[14:22] <Mortvert> faLUCE - i didn't send mine back yet, i'm waiting for reply
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[14:22] <Mortvert> (If i don't get any by friday, i'm sending it anyway)
[14:23] <faLUCE> Mortvert: where do you suggest to buy?
[14:23] <Joeboy> faLUCE: The "enclosures" look self-assembly bits of cases. You don't need one. I don't even have a case on mine
[14:23] <Mortvert> faLUCE - you can try modmypi
[14:23] <faLUCE> Joeboy: where did you order the raspberry???
[14:23] <Joeboy> faLUCE: A friend gave it to me :-)
[14:24] <Joeboy> Not sure where he got it from. tbh if/when I get my next one I'll probably get it from RS
[14:25] <Joeboy> Suspect the dodgy RS pis are just bad luck
[14:25] <cairne> adafruit is good too for cases
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[14:26] <faLUCE> Joeboy: I agree
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[14:33] <cairne> anyone use pny 8gb class 10 sdhc cards?
[14:34] <dape8708> lady ada and becky stern are pretty
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[14:39] <faLUCE> Mortvert: unfortunately, in modmypi they sell obnly the UK power supply
[14:40] <faLUCE> and in RS they don't sell the wifi usb dongle
[14:41] <Jck_true> A case? Just cut a whole in both ends of the Farnell Case - Put the raspberry inside and tape it together....
[14:42] <cairne> haha or lego's
[14:42] <Joeboy> Hell, just cover your pi in gaffer tape
[14:43] <Joeboy> My pi has an A4 sheet of paper on top of it to keep the dust off
[14:43] <Joeboy> Case, schmase
[14:43] <atouk> http://www.iammer.com/raspi/raspberryPiCase-Final.pdf
[14:44] <Joeboy> atouk: That's very cool
[14:44] <Oddj0b> that is awesome atouk
[14:45] <atouk> not min. just sharing a link
[14:45] <Oddj0b> now I feel stupid for buying a plastic case.
[14:45] <Joeboy> I might do that for my next project, seeing as I seem to be too stupid to get this DMA to work
[14:45] <DDave> plastic>paper
[14:45] <DDave> reason? heat and such.. xD
[14:46] <atouk> run naked. only people ashamed of their hardware use cases
[14:46] <Oddj0b> I'm thinking of dust, that can't be good for it.
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[14:47] <atouk> if there's that much dust, move out of the coal mine
[14:47] <_julian> ah interesting, the honoured texture coordinate is always the coordinate that is at the index of the (-1, -1) position in the position vertex array
[14:47] <_julian> so maybe the position is not not changing because it thinks it has a 1x1 input or something like that
[14:48] <Jck_true> Oddj0b: The board is coated - Just don't put it down on steal and scratch it back and forth
[14:49] <Jck_true> steel*
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[14:50] <Oddj0b> I'll try and keep it steady.
[14:53] <faLUCE> do you know any othere EU shop than rs and modmypi?
[14:54] <neilr> faLUCE: http://www.newit.co.uk - If UK based is OK for you. I've used them in the past, they have been good for me.
[14:55] <Oddj0b> faLUCE: http://raspberrypi.dk/webshop/
[14:55] <Oddj0b> that's a danish one
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[14:56] <mgottschlag> _julian: did you somehow disable interpolation/enable flat shading?
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[14:56] <mgottschlag> anyways, bbl
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[15:03] <faLUCE> thanks
[15:06] <faLUCE> neilr and others: unfortunately in newit.co.uk it's not clear if the power supply is EU or UK. I can't find a shop where I can buy both an EU power supply and a wi-fi usb dongle for raspberry pi. Any suggestion?
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[15:08] <Davespice> just found this page, looks like Aemulor isn't going to be free after all (http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/micros/individual/newprodpages/prodinfo.php?prodcode=AEM-AEM-RPI)
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[15:22] <gordonDrogon> ?18 for an emulator? Serously? Who'll pay for it? (and who needs it!)
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[15:22] <neilr> Davespice - not sure why I'd want that - !ArcEm has done everything I needed to run 26 bit code in the past
[15:22] <neilr> I think he'll have problems selling any
[15:23] <gordonDrogon> Can't imagine it's hard to write one - the issue would be getting a decent speed.
[15:24] <gordonDrogon> but the first one was written in bbc basic ;-)
[15:25] <gordonDrogon> Eek - he's selling Pi's for ?40.99 too.
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[15:25] <gordonDrogon> what planet is he on?
[15:25] <neilr> Planet RISC OS - want a mail client? Sure, that's ?40. Oh, you want IMAP as well? That's another ?20 please...
[15:26] <steve_rox> what someones charging for a emulator?
[15:26] <steve_rox> madness
[15:27] <neilr> Oh, if you want a real laugh, check out the price of the A9home computer from CJE
[15:27] <neilr> http://www.cjemicros.co.uk/micros/products/a9home.shtml
[15:27] <DeliriumTremens> that guy is running a racket
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[15:28] <steve_rox> what was the emulator for?
[15:28] <steve_rox> or of maybe
[15:29] <neilr> steve_rox: running old (26 bit) RISC OS stuff on a Pi
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[15:29] <steve_rox> hmm i miss riscos
[15:29] <steve_rox> true you can run it on pi but it wont have the software i miss
[15:29] <neilr> I love it, but it's going to die soon - nobody will use it on a pi when you can use linux for a lot less money
[15:30] <steve_rox> and the internet has no trace of the software
[15:30] <DeliriumTremens> see: free
[15:31] <Hodapp> neilr: Look at the history of RISC OS and tell everyone with a straight face that 'it's going to die soon'.
[15:31] <steve_rox> should of made a donation button not a pay or get lost
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[15:32] <Davespice> neilr, gordonDrogon - I think this one is supposed to be very fast in that it just fixes the 26 bit vs 32 bit issue and allows the risc code to be executed semi-native by the Arm, wihout having to emulate a whole Archimedes etc
[15:32] <steve_rox> it better do something special if you pay for it
[15:32] <neilr> Hodapp: Yup, I know. With more people developing it (and apps to run on it) it would soon gain some useful momentum, and become a viable alternative for a home desktop machine
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[15:35] <Davespice> everyone seen the front page, good old Eric Schmit :)
[15:35] <steve_rox> wonder how you middle click on riscos with a pc mouse
[15:35] <gordonDrogon> I suspect the big issue is that's riscos is so very niche.
[15:35] <Hodapp> neilr: It's more that the suggestion that something with as much of a history long before the Raspberry Pi is just suddenly going to 'die soon'.
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> wow. 15,000 Pis!
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> the Apple II hasn't died - yet.
[15:37] <neilr> Hodapp: What other platforms is it going to run on? Iyonix? A9Home? How many people will think "hmmm, I need a PC. I know. I'll buy an A9home for 600 quid"
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> neither has the spectrum.
[15:37] <gordonDrogon> but the number of active users ... less and less...
[15:38] <gordonDrogon> I think it's sad in a way - it could have been something, but lack of marketing, etc. at a time when Apple Mac's were taking off, Win3.1, etc. And Linux with cheap X.
[15:39] <gordonDrogon> I abandoned my Arc and riscos for Linux in the early 90's.
[15:39] <neilr> RISCOS Ltd. is in the process of being dissolved as a company as well
[15:39] <gordonDrogon> didnt even know there was a company...
[15:40] <gordonDrogon> there is a semi-local group about an hours drive from me who meet up once a month -I've been meaning to visit them for ages, but it clashed with the local LUG meetings )-:
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[15:44] <faLUCE> the Tenda Wireless-N150 USB Network Adapter (wi-fi dongle) is tested for raspberry pi. But I can't find it in the shop where I want to buy the rpi. Can I use other usb dongles for the same board?
[15:46] <Jck_true> faLUCE: Yeah should run fine -
[15:47] <Jck_true> faLUCE: I run this - http://dx.com/p/2-4-ghz-2800mw-high-power-802-11b-g-usb-2-0-wireless-network-dongle-with-9dbi-antenna-black-101948??Utm_rid=58973692
[15:47] <Jck_true> faLUCE: Realtek 8187L Chipset
[15:49] <gordonDrogon> anyone know how easy it would be for me to compile a C program that uses SDL under RISC OS?
[15:51] <faLUCE> thanks Jck_true
[15:51] <neilr> Well, gcc is available on RISC OS - but I'm not sure what libraries would be needed for SDL?
[15:53] <gordonDrogon> the SDL library, I guess :)
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[15:53] <mjr> in 2011, "Nobody is maintaining RISC OS code, so I'm removing it for now.": http://lists.libsdl.org/pipermail/commits-libsdl.org/2011-January/003687.html
[15:54] <mjr> presumably one could resurrect the code and start maintaining it again, if one were of enough bother
[15:54] <opieng> hi all, where the best place to get full in depth technical pdf documents of the Pi model b
[15:54] <gordonDrogon> Hm. looks like there is a version.
[15:55] <opieng> the ones on element 14 website seem quite basic
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> however my code needs the pthreads library.
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> not sure how/if that translates into riscos world, so probably not worth bothering with.
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> opieng, that's probably all there is. what are you after?
[15:57] <Hodapp> neilr: The point is that it's survived thus far with almost no platform. I don't foresee that "it's going to die soon" in any sense.
[15:57] <opieng> gordonDrogon, I would like details like max temps for components, I want to know about each component on the onboard in depth, the limitations, max and min values, tolerances of the circuit board, etc
[15:58] <neilr> Hodapp: yes, that's a fair point, and I agree that there will always be a place for it among hobbyists.
[15:59] <gordonDrogon> opieng, it's a $35 board. it's good to 75C and will auto shutdown at 85C.
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[16:00] <gordonDrogon> opieng, and that's about it. the depth of information you seem to want is not really available.
[16:00] <opieng> ok thanks GordonDragon
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[16:01] <Ryanteck> Hey Guys
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[16:05] <IT_Sean> o/
[16:06] <Ryanteck> Hey 0.o
[16:06] <gordonDrogon> What Ho!
[16:08] * neilr ambles out of the shed to pop the kettle on. Back in a few minutes.
[16:09] <Ryanteck> out of the shed 0.o?
[16:10] <Ryanteck> I am currently in a boring functional skills lesson
[16:10] <Ryanteck> Making boring powerpoints
[16:11] <neilr> Yup. I work from my shed.
[16:11] <Ryanteck> Cool
[16:11] <Ryanteck> I work in my room
[16:12] <IT_Sean> I work from my office. :|
[16:12] <Ryanteck> My room is my office and where all my tech is
[16:12] <Ryanteck> but currently I am at college
[16:12] <Ryanteck> which is boring me out as hell, done no IT today. Just had assessments and more stuff
[16:12] <IT_Sean> Ahhh.
[16:12] <IT_Sean> Enjoy it well it lasts. Real Life comes next.
[16:12] <Ryanteck> I think I would prefer real life
[16:13] <Ryanteck> Being able to code as a job or something in tech is lots more fun than powerpoints
[16:13] <gordonDrogon> my office is my room.
[16:14] <Ryanteck> Hmm, my room is quite officy
[16:14] <Ryanteck> I have a desk, computer, tons of paper on it
[16:14] <Ryanteck> And an spinny chair :3
[16:15] <gordonDrogon> neilr, when you get back have you got a mo to run something under bbc basic under riscos for me?
[16:15] <neilr> Sure - I'm waiting for the tea to brew now, so have some minutes
[16:15] <Ryanteck> everyone seen the good news about UK Schools getting Pi?
[16:15] <dshep> is there an easy way to mount my sdcard image to edit a config file under osx?
[16:16] <gordonDrogon> neilr, http://unicorn.drogon.net/rtb/ack.rtb
[16:16] <gordonDrogon> you'll need to adapt it - maybe - the time is in 1000ths and I think it's 100ths under BBC Basic.
[16:16] <neilr> Got it
[16:17] <gordonDrogon> it might take 5-30 seconds to run...
[16:17] <Ryanteck> unicorn as a sub domain 0.o
[16:17] <Ryanteck> Epic
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[16:17] <gordonDrogon> I have lion too.
[16:17] <Ryanteck> I only have main setup
[16:17] <Ryanteck> main.ryanteck.org.uk
[16:17] <Ryanteck> And blog.
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[16:17] <Ryanteck> Otherwise I think thats it
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[16:18] <neilr> mmm, that's not BBC BASIC... give me some time - I'll need to do a bit of twiddling
[16:18] <gordonDrogon> gordon @ unicorn: fgrep "IN A" drogon.net | wc -l
[16:18] <gordonDrogon> 343
[16:19] <opieng> how difficult is it to adapt something like Raspbian to make my own version of it for a project I am doing
[16:19] <gordonDrogon> no, it's RTB - my basic. ah, sorry - cycle/repeat - just drop them and s/repaat/next/
[16:19] <neilr> NUMFORMAT ?
[16:19] <gordonDrogon> and ignore numformat.
[16:19] <neilr> ignored :)
[16:20] <gordonDrogon> it just fixed output to 5 digits.
[16:20] <gordonDrogon> don't make anything integers either - trying to keep it as similar to mine as possible.
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[16:21] <Ryanteck> I hope my cables have arrived in the post when I get home
[16:21] <gordonDrogon> I'm suspecting it'll be quicker as BBC Basic under riscos is written in assembler (I think?)
[16:21] <Ryanteck> Going to program a 3310 with it
[16:21] <gordonDrogon> what's a 3310 ?
[16:21] <Ryanteck> after I do some work on Pideas.co.uk
[16:22] <Ryanteck> 3310 Nokia screen*
[16:22] <gordonDrogon> a-ha.
[16:22] <earl2> Hi, so I'm doing a long build. I didn't start x - just booted and started a build. THe question is, can I open a new terminal (like alt 1 alt 2 or whatever) in this mode
[16:22] <Ryanteck> Some reason having to scroll down the chat via the web browser
[16:22] <earl2> This is a default raspbian install.
[16:22] <earl2> so I can do something during the build...
[16:22] <Ryanteck> being very awkward
[16:22] <neilr> 2.74 secs
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[16:22] <gordonDrogon> earl2 just type alt+f2, etc.
[16:22] <Ryanteck> earl2 You can use screen
[16:22] <earl2> not yet
[16:22] <Ryanteck> 0.o
[16:22] <neilr> GordonDrogon: 2.74 sec
[16:23] <gordonDrogon> 2.74? blimey.
[16:23] <earl2> okay atl f2 wrked thanks
[16:23] <gordonDrogon> did it print 4 lines with the last number 1021?
[16:23] <neilr> Yup
[16:23] <gordonDrogon> well I'm quite impressed then.
[16:23] <gordonDrogon> it takes 16 seconds under RTB in Linux.
[16:23] <neilr> BBC BASIC is pretty nippy
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[16:24] <neilr> Would probably be faster if I made it all integer maths
[16:24] <gordonDrogon> so it seems.
[16:24] <gordonDrogon> sure - but then it's not comparing like for like.
[16:25] <mapu> djazz: very nice- trying it now
[16:25] <gordonDrogon> and I guess that's the difference writing the interpreter in assembler too.
[16:26] <gordonDrogon> wonder what I can do to speed RTB up now ....
[16:26] <neilr> 2.34 secs with integers
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[16:27] <gordonDrogon> not much in it - it's mostly the functions calls + recursion.
[16:27] <audy> Where can you actually buy a raspberry pi for $25?
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[16:27] <audy> The link on the website goes to a store which sells them for $35
[16:27] <gordonDrogon> audy, it's $25 plus local taxes & postage.
[16:27] <gordonDrogon> audy, not sure the rev A is shipping yet though.
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[16:28] <IT_Sean> Aye, it's $25 + tax, postage, and fees and such
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[16:28] <gordonDrogon> audy, model a = $25, model b = $35. Model B in the UK us ?24.95 + VAT = ?29.94.
[16:28] <gordonDrogon> free postage from Farnell.
[16:29] <IT_Sean> The model A isn't out yet, is it?
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[16:29] <gordonDrogon> Hm. wonder if those 15,000 Pi's google have bought are model A or B's ?
[16:29] <steve_rox> ppl made their own model a by ripping lan chip off ;-)
[16:30] <audy> gordonDrogon thanks
[16:30] <Ryanteck> I would say the model B would have to be ones for schools
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[16:30] <Ryanteck> It is pretty useless to schools without internet
[16:30] <Ryanteck> and would cost more to also get usb hub than use both ports
[16:31] <IT_Sean> You need a powered hub anyway, to do anything besides use a mouse and kbd.
[16:32] <Ryanteck> Yeh
[16:32] <Ryanteck> But apart from mouse and kbd you dont need more for schools
[16:32] <Ryanteck> I actually can run wi-fi without hub
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[16:33] <mark_vh> whoa! -> http://spritesmods.com/?art=rpi_arcade&page=1
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[16:34] <gordonDrogon> mark_vh, do keep up ;-)
[16:35] <Ryanteck> I'm currently working on a site like that, but for Raspberry Pi projects only
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[16:35] <Ryanteck> taking a while to code along side college work
[16:37] <mark_vh> gordonDrogon: probably posted many times before, right? ;)
[16:37] <gordonDrogon> it's on the BBC now: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21243825
[16:37] <gordonDrogon> mark_vh, some time back yes!
[16:38] <Ryanteck> I noticed the post on BBC Just a few mins ago, Getting traffic to my sites again
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[16:38] <RaTTuS|BIG> much better than http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-21058994 which is just utter tosh
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[16:40] <Ryanteck> Thats weird? I know windows is annoying at hardware changes but your WAN IP Don't normally change from one computer being changed
[16:41] <Ryanteck> I upgrade my computer every almost every 6 months with a major hardware change
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[16:43] <gordonDrogon> Ryanteck, that article is bogus. badly written and badly reviews before publication.
[16:43] <Ryanteck> Yeh
[16:44] <Ryanteck> Whew end of college. Got to go home now so see you later!
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[17:07] <opieng> gordonDrogon, some useful info here http://elinux.org/RPi_Hardware
[17:10] <RaTTuS|BIG> somehow I think gordonDrogon already knows about elinux.org
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[17:12] * pronto rokcs back and forth hoping this call-home script will work
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[17:12] <aDro> djazz: I got sound and I hear my voice, I had to adjust the frequency to cd quality.
[17:13] <aDro> djazz: But then it crashes after a bit.
[17:15] <pronto> damn >.< , not looking like it is, that debain from the pi site will auto grap dhcp right? ...oh i wonder if curl is included by default
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> opieng, yes, you can get (part of) the ARM peripherals manual, and the schematic, but anything 'deeper' than that is goin to be almost impossible to get - without signing your life away to Broadcom, etc.
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> pronto, debian & raspbian will both use dhcp by default.
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[17:18] <grantsmith> anyone running tomcat 7 on jamvm on the pi ? I'm noticing a slow memory leak...
[17:18] <grantsmith> over the course of 24 hours
[17:18] <pronto> well it is java
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[17:19] <catcher> if using the 5v supply from the GPIO pins, does it need to be pulled down to 3.3v before returning to another pin since the device is 3.3v?
[17:20] <FR^2> [ ] most people know about java memory management
[17:20] <gordonDrogon> catcher, woa..
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[17:21] <catcher> gordonDrogon, well I'm seeing a pinout saying it's a 3.3v device, and wondering about the 5v pin.
[17:22] <gordonDrogon> catcher, just power the external device with the 3.3v supply - unless it's a 5v device in which case don't connect it to the pi...
[17:22] <gordonDrogon> catcher, I presume you're talking about a device external to the Pi, or the Pi itself?
[17:23] <catcher> gordonDrogon, why have does it have a 5v supply?
[17:23] <IT_Sean> catcher: you cannot feed 5v into a 3.3v pin on the Pi. That would fry it.
[17:23] <gordonDrogon> catcher, the Pi has a 5V supply because bit's of it needs 5v (as does the USB)
[17:23] <gordonDrogon> most of the pi runs at 3.3 and some runs at 1.8, but it all comes from the 5v.
[17:23] <IT_Sean> ^ wot 'e said
[17:23] <catcher> academic question really, I'm surprised to see a 5v gpio supply pin
[17:23] <pronto> wewt scanssh xD ... appetnly my init.d callhome script didnt want to start :(
[17:24] <pksato> surprise if dont have. :)
[17:24] <gordonDrogon> catcher, it's handy to power 5v stuff - and some boards use it to provide the 3.3v supply for he board as the Pi's 3.3v supply doesn't have much spare.
[17:24] <IT_Sean> you can control 5v devices from the Pi, it just takes a bit of extra hardware to isolate the 5v device from the 3.3v logic of the Pi.
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[17:25] <catcher> I think I see, so it's probably more commonly used for devices that don't return to the pi?
[17:25] <catcher> output only situations?
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[17:26] <gordonDrogon> it all depends.
[17:26] <pronto> rather ghetto callhome method: curl http://place/`/sbin/ifconfig eth0|grep "inet addr"|sed 's/.*r://'|sed 's/ .*//'`/`curl ifconfig.me` :D
[17:27] <gordonDrogon> I knew several devices that input to the Pi, but take their power off the 5v pin.
[17:27] <gordonDrogon> they use it to power their on-board 3.3v regulator.
[17:27] <gordonDrogon> e.g. Gertboard.
[17:27] <catcher> ah, I see
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[17:30] <catcher> thanks for the info. If I'm connecting simple open/closed switches, which pins can I use? I'm looking at the pinout, but not sure what these acronyms are.
[17:30] <catcher> I'm assuming the basic GPIO pins, but curious if others would be okay too.
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[17:31] <gordonDrogon> catcher, there are up to 17 pins you can use.
[17:32] <Torikun> yo
[17:32] <gordonDrogon> +4 more on a rev 2 board.
[17:32] <aDro> I hooked up a switch for my reset pins
[17:32] <gordonDrogon> you can re-purpose any of the pins for general purpose IO.
[17:32] <aDro> without solder
[17:32] <catcher> oh cool, so anything except power/ground pins?
[17:33] <catcher> And re-purpose with software?
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[17:37] <Torikun> sup pi peeps
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[17:42] <RaTTuS|BIG> Torikun - 15k or RPi goodness
[17:42] <RaTTuS|BIG> of*
[17:42] <gordonDrogon> catcher, more or less.
[17:42] <Torikun> 15 k ?
[17:42] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3158
[17:43] * Torikun loads
[17:43] <gordonDrogon> catcher, see some examples here, etc. https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/
[17:43] <Torikun> Oh wow that is nice
[17:43] <catcher> cool, thanks gordonDrogon
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[17:44] <Torikun> anyone got a new use for a Pi server?
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[17:48] <aDro> http://imgur.com/a/pO9m1
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[17:49] <aDro> Juryrigged Reset Switch
[17:49] <aDro> no solder
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[17:52] <grantsmith> BCM2835 datasheet lists 54 GPIO lines. I assume not all of these can be accessed from the pi ?
[17:53] <weltall> hi i've update the official debian wheezy (softfloat as raspian doesn't support the software i need) yesterday after a while and i'm getting a lot of weird issues, the vfat.fsck is doing buffer overflows on boot, network is showing as being down in lxde, midori continues to crash and the screen gets black from time to time. any idea what it could be?
[17:53] <weltall> (it's the old 256mb revision)
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[17:55] <john_f> grantsmith: not all on the header
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[17:58] <john_f> grantsmith: https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/pins/
[17:59] <gordonDrogon> grantsmith, yea, not all of them - see that page (which I must re-do at some point!)
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[17:59] <gordonDrogon> weltall, what software does raspbian not support that's in Debian (notthat I can do anthing about it - just curios)
[17:59] <weltall> mono
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[18:01] <grantsmith> john_f, gordonDrogon thanks
[18:02] <weltall> no one knows what could have happened?
[18:02] <FR^2> weltall: power issues?
[18:02] <weltall> worked yesterday :|
[18:03] <FR^2> They all say that! ;)
[18:03] <weltall> well i didn't change setup for a year but could try another psu
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[18:04] <arcanescu> will Serial : 000000000000000d vary for every cat /proc/cpuinfo on the PI ?
[18:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> the serial number will be different yes
[18:04] <RaTTuS|BIG> for different raspberrys
[18:04] <arcanescu> for every PI ? yes?
[18:05] <arcanescu> or different models of the PI ?
[18:05] <IT_Sean> Every pi has it's own s/n
[18:05] <IT_Sean> They are unique.
[18:05] <gordonDrogon> serials are unique.
[18:05] <nid0> every pi has a different serial, yours seems suspicious though
[18:05] <IT_Sean> like little ARM powered snowflakes.
[18:05] <gordonDrogon> in theory.
[18:05] <arcanescu> great. thanks
[18:05] <apo> IT_Sean: very poetic
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[18:06] * IT_Sean takes a bow
[18:07] <aldasa> printf '\033[?1002h'
[18:07] <aldasa> opps, ignore me
[18:08] <FR^2> arcanescu: Isn't that the serial a MPEG2 or VC-1 key is generated for?
[18:08] <RaTTuS|BIG> arcanescu if you look at ahte hardware address of your NIC and the serial number .....
[18:08] <Cy-Gor> anyone find a better small HDMI monitor than this for an OK price: http://www.amazon.com/Lilliput-interface-dedicated-high-definition-Koolertron/dp/B0041I8UAO/ref=reg_hu-rd_add_1_dp
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[18:10] <arcanescu> FR^2: not sure
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[18:10] <RaTTuS|BIG> yes they are generated aginst teh serial number
[18:10] <arcanescu> im looking for a unique key on the PI which i can hardcode to my C program
[18:10] <arcanescu> so basically it doesnt work on other PI's
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[18:12] <arcanescu> so i was wondering if i could use the one from cat /proc/cpuinfo and it seems i can
[18:12] <FR^2> arcanescu: Then that serial is exactly what you want ;)
[18:12] <axion> yes
[18:12] <axion> serial
[18:12] <arcanescu> FR^2: :)
[18:12] <axion> it is what is used to match purchased video codecs from working for only your pi
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[18:12] <pksato> arcanescu: http://www.raspberrypi.com/mpeg-2-license-key/
[18:13] <FR^2> arcanescu: http://www.raspberrypi.com/mpeg-2-license-key/ <-- There you have to enter that serial, so the MPEG2 codec works only for one raspi
[18:13] * FR^2 high-fives pksato ;)
[18:13] <weltall> FR^2, but running stress does't bring issues it's just midori crashing, fsck crashing (but doesn't anymore after checking the disk with windows)
[18:13] <arcanescu> FR^2: aaaah i see I actually baught one key myself
[18:14] <FR^2> weltall: Then I can't help you :/
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[18:14] <weltall> segfault
[18:14] <weltall> so everyone these days is just using raspian?
[18:15] <axion> strace it and see why
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[18:15] <FR^2> weltall: I'm using raspbmc currently.
[18:16] <axion> weltall: quite a few of us also use arch linux
[18:16] <Torikun> arch ftw!
[18:16] <axion> i find it to be faster than debian, especially package management
[18:16] <weltall> the image i see on the site has the sam issues of raspian as it's hf
[18:18] <gordonDrogon> yea, we're all using Raspbian apart from 3 who are using Arch, 2 on Gentoo and one on RISCOS :)
[18:18] <axion> 3?
[18:18] <weltall> XD
[18:18] <gordonDrogon> well, maybe 4 :)
[18:18] <weltall> seems the crash is in javascriptcoregtk
[18:18] <axion> i can think of at least 5 i know personally
[18:18] <FR^2> gordonDrogon: Hahaha, I'll try gentoo on raspi one day ;)
[18:19] <[ill]will> they got puppy on there too
[18:20] <FR^2> And I'll complain if libreoffice doesn't work on raspi variant A ;)
[18:21] <[ill]will> gordonDrogon , have you tried RFID on the pi yet?
[18:24] <Torikun> gentoo is a waste of time on the pi
[18:24] <Torikun> compiling anything is hella slow on the pi. you gotta use another machine
[18:25] <Torikun> and you gotta compile lots of crap to just get distcc working on the pi
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[18:25] <FR^2> Torikun: Ah, I don't believe you! Raspberry pi with its lots of ram and CPU performance is ideal for gentoo! ;)
[18:25] <Torikun> lol
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[18:25] <Torikun> I spend a week trying
[18:25] <Torikun> lol
[18:25] <john_f> I ran gentoo on a pIII, with less ram than my pi. ah the folly of youth
[18:26] <[ill]will> i tried gentoo 1 time back in 2003 , took 3 days to compile the kernel
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[18:26] <Torikun> you probably had way better IO johnf
[18:26] <Torikun> 3 days?
[18:26] <Torikun> did you juse make -j2
[18:26] <[ill]will> i had a sweet cyrix cpu
[18:26] <Davespice> Just seen this on engadget; http://www.engadget.com/2013/01/29/xbmc-12-frodo-launches-in-finished-form-with-android-support/
[18:27] <Torikun> compiling aint that bad on my macbook pro
[18:27] <Torikun> i5
[18:27] <FR^2> Gotta go, see ya!
[18:28] <john_f> I only have enough patience for pacman to extract packages these days
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[18:28] <john_f> speaking of slow i/o
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[18:30] <Torikun> your right
[18:30] <Torikun> was updating a system as you said that
[18:30] <Torikun> lol
[18:30] <TAFB> I was Pacman'ing my Arch box too Torikun :)
[18:31] <apo> [ill]will: Compiling a kernel takes maybe four minutes for me. And it's not like I do it that often
[18:31] <TAFB> Got a: ==> Warning: /etc/group or /etc/gshadow are inconsistent. Run 'grpck' to correct this.
[18:31] <apo> Some other stuff takes much longer
[18:31] <TAFB> not sure what that means :(
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[18:31] <Torikun> nice TAFB
[18:31] <apo> TAFB: it means that you should run grpck...
[18:31] <john_f> TAFB: it means you modified /etc/group without using gpasswd
[18:32] <john_f> or merged pacnews badly
[18:32] <Torikun> I am using ext4 again so I gotta exlucde the kernel
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[18:32] <Torikun> lol
[18:32] <Torikun> i can not get abs to work on the pi
[18:32] <TAFB> it keeps asking to add "qmail" when I run grpck but I don't use qmail, I use exim :(
[18:32] <Torikun> ;p;
[18:32] <Torikun> ditcc is easy to setup on the arch
[18:32] <Torikun> did that but abs no worky
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[18:32] <TAFB> every night at 3am I get an e-mail that says cronjob tried to start qmail and failed, so qmail is still buried in there somewhere :(
[18:33] <Torikun> lol
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[18:34] <Torikun> TAFB: what happens when you type abs
[18:34] <Torikun> I get download failed
[18:35] <TAFB> abs may be found in the following packages:
[18:35] <TAFB> extra/abs 2.4.4-1 /usr/bin/abs
[18:35] <Torikun> oh
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[18:35] <Torikun> you don't ahve teh build system installed
[18:37] <TAFB> I "make" stuff on it, and they work :) what do I need to install?
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[18:38] <gordonDrogon> [ill]will, no. not tried rfid on anything.
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[18:43] <[ill]will> ive seen some people use the usb parallax one , but the range on that thing is horrible
[18:44] <[ill]will> ive got a id-20 rfid reader from my arduino project that i wanna convert to pi
[18:45] <pronto> parallax is awesome, got a few of their propeller boards
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[18:46] <[ill]will> yea some of their stuff, i ended up picking up one of those parallax readers from radio shack for $8
[18:46] <[ill]will> i had to rub the rfid on it to get it to read sometimes
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[18:48] <[ill]will> the id-20 ive had for over 2yrs runnig with no problems for door entry system
[18:48] <pronto> never used the rfid, but i have to of those defcon20 badges and a propepepr quickstart ; i think the p8x32a
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[18:49] <[ill]will> bah the first time i got to defcon i get a crappy copper badge
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[18:49] <pronto> which one?
[18:49] <[ill]will> from 2011 the egyptian eye one
[18:49] <pronto> btw, if you want,t hey're still selling dc20 badges on hackerstickers.com
[18:49] <pronto> that is not copper btw
[18:50] <[ill]will> or bronze
[18:50] <[ill]will> whatever it was it sucked lol
[18:50] <pronto> it's titanium, they acuatly caused tiatanium prices to go up a little bit for a few weeks
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[18:51] <[ill]will> my buddy got one of the dc20 badges for free a few weeks ago from a goon, i might tried to snag it from him, i doubt hes using it for anything
[18:51] <pronto> was it a goon badge?
[18:51] <[ill]will> nah just the human one
[18:52] <pronto> https://www.hackerstickers.com/product/hardware-dc20-humanbadge/ <
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[18:52] <pronto> they ordered a lot of them
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[18:55] <[ill]will> pronto the convert command in your jpeg script, whats that program part of
[18:55] <[ill]will> that does the text overlay on the jpg
[18:57] <pronto> [ill]will: all part of the image magic suite
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[19:07] <audy> what's the best place to buy a raspberry pi in the US?
[19:08] <Torikun> mmc electronics
[19:08] <Torikun> always in stock audy
[19:08] <audy> Torikun you mean mcm?
[19:08] <Torikun> yup lol
[19:08] <arcanescu> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=18936 -> there is code here to extract serial using C. im not sure why it converts it to a 3 digit number?
[19:09] <Torikun> http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14631
[19:09] <audy> Torikun awesome thanks. Much cheaper than amazon
[19:09] <osfameron> because there are < 1000 raspberry pis? ;-P
[19:09] <Torikun> http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14421
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[19:09] <Torikun> I hate how much they charge for shipping
[19:10] <arcanescu> osfameron... well : my cpu proc info says: 0000000065d8b036
[19:10] <arcanescu> how does that translate to 65A
[19:10] <Torikun> 000000004f9a1199
[19:10] <Torikun> my SN
[19:10] <Torikun> lol
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[19:11] <arcanescu> not sure where it gets the result 65A from
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[19:18] <Flemzard> Hi! How you export image on a SDCard through samba on mac os x ? :x
[19:19] <Torikun> huh
[19:19] <Torikun> you want to copy an image to a cifs server on your mac?
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[19:20] <Bercik> hi
[19:20] <Torikun> hi
[19:20] <dobra-dobra> Hello.
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[19:21] <Flemzard> I can only connect my SDCard to my printer
[19:22] <Flemzard> And I can access to my card via my computer, so I guess it's possible to write a .img through the samba connection
[19:22] <Torikun> maybe dd over ssh
[19:23] <Flemzard> I've try sudo dd bs=4m if=~/Downloads/thefile.img of=/GUEST:@Epson%20Stylus%20SX440._smb._tcp.local/MEMORYCARD
[19:23] <Flemzard> but dd: /GUEST:@Epson%20Stylus%20SX440._smb._tcp.local/MEMORYCARD: No such file or directory
[19:23] <Torikun> what distro
[19:23] <Torikun> you may want to create partitions manually and rsync from mac to sd
[19:24] <Flemzard> my on mac os
[19:24] <Flemzard> I'm on*
[19:24] <Torikun> what distro you putting on the pi
[19:24] <Flemzard> openelec :x
[19:25] <Torikun> your mac does not have a sd reader?
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[19:25] <Flemzard> nope
[19:25] <Flemzard> only my printer :/
[19:25] <Torikun> lol old mac?
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[19:25] <Flemzard> later 2011
[19:26] <Torikun> they only clever way I can see you doing this is creating partitions and rsyncing the image files over
[19:26] <Torikun> My macbook pro since 2010 and 2011 had sd card readers
[19:27] <Flemzard> hmm
[19:27] <Torikun> you got an air?
[19:27] <Flemzard> ok I just discover he had one
[19:27] <Flemzard> ... lol
[19:27] <aDro> How short can a cat5 cable be?
[19:27] <Torikun> lol your back in business!
[19:27] <Flemzard> yey thx x)
[19:28] <audy> w00h raspberry pi ordered
[19:28] <Torikun> I am sure you will need help with writing the image on osx lol
[19:28] <IT_Sean> aDro: for what, ethernet?
[19:28] <IT_Sean> A couple of inches.
[19:28] <audy> It won't be long now until my giant death robot is complete
[19:28] <Torikun> lookup diskutil unmountdisk disk1
[19:28] <Torikun> then you can dd
[19:28] <nid0> risc os has grep out of the box right?
[19:28] <john_f> hmm, why would my spi stop communicating overnight?
[19:29] <skope> dang. omxplayer-git doesn't support umlauts in the subtitles
[19:29] <skope> first had to transform .sub to .srt and then they didn't work at all
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[19:30] <skope> running raspbian
[19:30] <Flemzard> hmmm and when your sd card are connected, where you can see her ?
[19:30] <Flemzard> diskutils ?
[19:30] <skope> is raspbmc any good?
[19:30] <Torikun> no
[19:30] <Torikun> openelec more stable
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[19:30] <john_f> i need a scope :/
[19:30] <aDro> IT_Sean: Yes
[19:31] <IT_Sean> aDro: 4 inches is generally considered to be the minimum.
[19:31] <aDro> good to know, ty
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[19:32] <skope> Torikun: really?
[19:32] <Kane> o/
[19:32] <Torikun> In my experience skope
[19:32] <Torikun> try both and you be the judge
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[19:33] <Flemzard> hmmm the sdcard isn't mounted
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[19:33] <skope> Torikun: i will try openelec
[19:33] <Torikun> Cool
[19:34] <Torikun> xbmc is based on raspian
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[19:34] <Torikun> openelec made their own distro with xbmc on top
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[19:40] <nid0> its interesting seeing that the pi is becoming a bit more pervasive in mainstream, over the past few months its actually gotten to the point where its not desparately suprising to have the odd helpdesk query land on my desk from people using one in some way or other
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[19:42] <aDro> Any good tutorials to get my arch set up?
[19:42] <aDro> newbie
[19:44] <skope> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Beginners%27_Guide
[19:44] <skope> do you have it installed aDro?
[19:45] <aDro> yeah, i found one
[19:45] <aDro> http://valencering.com/tutorials/raspberrypi/archlinux/archlinux_install_initial_setup.html
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[19:49] <bergelmir> hi guys, got my first raspberrypi and installed debian-wheezy on my sdcard but i can't get a signal on my monitor (hdmi).
[19:49] <arcanescu> is there a way to read the cat /proc/cpuinfo serial from the chip/board physically ?
[19:49] <DDave> bergelmir, Ive had the issue too
[19:49] <bergelmir> DDave: "had" :)
[19:50] <bergelmir> already reading something on "change this and that" but i have no signal so i can't change anything :)
[19:51] <bergelmir> s/already reading something on/already read something like/
[19:51] <DDave> bergelmir, I just added one line, hold on im looking for it :)
[19:51] <bergelmir> DDave: add line... where? :D i have no signal
[19:51] <bergelmir> the LED is red (PWR)
[19:51] <DDave> bergelmir, plug the sd card into your computer, theres a config.txt
[19:51] <nid0> bergelmir: the config is on the /boot partition which you can access on any other system by putting the sd card in a reader
[19:52] <nid0> but, if you're only getting a red led, signal isnt your problem
[19:52] <DDave> safe_mode=1 should do the trick if i remember welll
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[19:52] <nid0> the pi is likely not booting at all
[19:52] <IT_Sean> Are any other LEDs on, besides the red one?
[19:53] <bergelmir> i think i have another problem :D
[19:53] <nid0> check you've actually written the sd card properly (rewrite it if needed) and that you're using a suitable power supply
[19:53] <bergelmir> dmesg on my ubuntu maschine says: [156918.306929] end_request: I/O error, dev mmcblk0, sector 0
[19:53] <DDave> sd card not compatible?
[19:53] <nid0> thats a non written sd card
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[19:54] <bergelmir> non written? used dd if=.. of=.. to write the image to it
[19:54] <nid0> whats the exact command you used?
[19:55] <IT_Sean> sounds like you didn't write it properly
[19:55] <bergelmir> sudo dd bs=1MB if=~/Downloads/2012-12-16-wheezy-raspbian.img of=/dev/mmcblk0p1
[19:55] <bergelmir> i think /dev/mmcblk0p1 is wrong...
[19:55] <nid0> remove the p1
[19:55] <nid0> and try again :)
[19:55] <bergelmir> not working :D
[19:55] <bergelmir> dd: writing `/dev/mmcblk0p1': Input/output error
[19:55] <bergelmir> bla :d
[19:55] <bergelmir> dd: writing `/dev/mmcblk0': Input/output error
[19:55] <bergelmir> ok, its the same error
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[19:56] <DDave> to me it sounds like your sd card is messed up xD
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[19:57] <bergelmir> yay, and i did the same thing for ALL my sdcards to save time...
[19:57] <bergelmir> ahhh :) a retry worked fine
[19:58] <IT_Sean> your Pi is booting?
[19:58] * bergelmir is dd'ing
[19:58] <bergelmir> nope, removed the sdcard and re-entered it and now i am not getting errors anymore
[19:59] <IT_Sean> let us know if your Pi boots, once it's donw
[19:59] <bergelmir> will do :)
[19:59] <gordonDrogon> bergelmir, I'd suggest this at some point: badblocks -s -c 256 /dev/mmcblk0
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[19:59] <gordonDrogon> but maybe the system got confused when trying to write to a partition.
[20:00] <bergelmir> i am wondering why this was possible after unmounting it.
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[20:00] <nid0> ?
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[20:01] <bergelmir> shouldn't the partition be unavailable after unmounting it?
[20:01] <nid0> you arent writing to a partition though
[20:01] <nid0> thats basically what you did the first time round and shouldnt, the img is a block image which includes partitions
[20:02] <nid0> and you're writing directly to the block device
[20:02] <bergelmir> but first i was writing the image to the partion /dev/mmcblk0p1
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[20:03] <nid0> yes, but its meaningless - dd is a block write, partitions and them being mounted or not basically dont come into it
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[20:05] <bergelmir> do i need a mouse?
[20:05] <IT_Sean> If you intend to move the pointer around.
[20:05] <bergelmir> ahhhhh :D its working!!!
[20:05] <bergelmir> thank you guys!
[20:06] <IT_Sean> excellent.
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[20:06] <gregj> who's got the new gertboard, who who who who who !
[20:07] <IT_Sean> i'm guessing... you do?
[20:07] <gregj> question tho, folks are saying in videos that there is manual that comes with it
[20:07] <gregj> well, I don't see any
[20:07] <gregj> and also it is suppose to fit on top of raspberry pi, but there's a slight, ekmh , issue
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[20:08] <bergelmir> what keyboard is the right for me? i want de-nodeadkeys :)
[20:08] <Gadget-Mac> New gertboard ?
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[20:09] <gregj> already soldered
[20:09] <bergelmir> ah, i need to select the model first, then i get the layout selection
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[20:43] <john_f> gregj: lots of complaints about the connector on e14's page for it
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[20:44] <gregj> john_f: if you try putting it over raspberry pi - which would be logical - it would touch the usb connector
[20:44] <gregj> so I know it is suppose to go the other way around
[20:44] <IT_Sean> Bit of tape 'd solve that.
[20:44] <gw280> is anyone here interested in working on firefox for the rpi?
[20:45] <gregj> IT_Sean: :-)
[20:45] <gregj> john_f: http://cl.ly/image/0i2Y1A1Q0o0B
[20:45] <gregj> to me that sort of way would make sense
[20:45] <gregj> but what do I knw :-)
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[20:45] <gregj> and I found the manual in pdf form. Not obvious where it is, and no link to it or something on the box
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[20:48] <john_f> order a socket, see if you get it in an esd safe bag + box
[20:49] <john_f> like my 6 pin idc sockets came from them :)
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[20:51] <john_f> just the straight ones, not the 90deg ones.
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[20:52] <gregj> I just hate pcworld here in the uk
[20:52] <gregj> sleasy bastards
[20:53] <gregj> ??19 for an hdmi to dvi cable
[20:53] <gregj> fuckers
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[20:53] <gregj> argos ain't better
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[20:53] <[diecast]> thats almost apple prices
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[20:54] <gregj> at least from apple I get some bang for buck
[20:54] <gregj> IT_Sean: thanks, but verbal warning would have been sufficient. I'm not a child
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[20:55] <spong4_> hi
[20:55] <spong4_> is anyone here familiar with rpi gpio?
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[20:55] <IT_Sean> gregj: I'm not trying to be a jerk, but, your 'verbal warning' is in the channel topic. You can see it at any time, and your client should display it whenever you join.
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[21:06] <richweskus> Hey guys, if i wanted to give my raspberrypi a host name what is the best way to do that?
[21:07] <_Trullo> yell
[21:07] <richweskus> so i dont have to check the IP each time its assigned a new one
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[21:10] <dape> richweskus you need a dynamic dns update client and to register a domain with a ddns provider?
[21:11] <richweskus> no just a local network hostname
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[21:11] <richweskus> so when im on my windows machine instead of going to access the rpi i can use hostname http://rpi/
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[21:12] <dape> richweskus you need to edit the hosts file from c windows system etc i think
[21:12] <richweskus> na im doing that currently. but isnt there a way to broadcast a hostname on the rpi?
[21:13] <richweskus> because the ip keeps changin. and i do not want to assign an IP on the rpi because it connects to different networks depending where i am
[21:13] <dape> i think you can set up your dhcp server to give a certain ip and dns hostname to a certain mac like your pis
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[21:13] <dape> richweskus if you are in control of your dhcp server you can set a certain ip/hostname to assign based on your Pi's mac
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[21:15] <mgottschlag> richweskus: on linux computers with zeroconf, "http://computer-name.local/" works
[21:15] <mgottschlag> (usually, I think raspbian has avahi enabled by default)
[21:15] <mgottschlag> there has to be something similar for windows
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[21:18] <richweskus> ok thanks
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[21:20] <markedathome> richweskus: in /etc/dhcpclient.conf -> send host-name = gethostname(); should register the name in /etc/hostname with the dhcpserver. As long as that server is seen by windows, or windows serves it (through internet connection sharing)
[21:21] <markedathome> you might need to clear arp and/or dns caches depending on location and time from last connection.
[21:21] <richweskus> sudo vim /etc/dhcp/dhclient sudo vim /etc/dhcp/dhclient
[21:22] <richweskus> send host-name = gethostname();
[21:23] <_julian> mgottschlag: I should not have flat shading enabled. actually I even tried to add a glShadeMode(GL_SMOOTH) but it did not change things
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[21:23] <markedathome> richweskus: yeah, sorry typed a bit too fast rather than c&p : /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
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[21:25] <markedathome> it may not show up just with raspberrypi, for example, but it will with a fully qualified raspberrypi.mshome.net. you may need to check the search domains parameters within /etc/nameserver and on windows ip networking tab for ipv4/ipv6
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[21:26] <mgottschlag> _julian: I think I would first try to run the code on a different computer (maybe with normal OpenGL then), there shouldn't be any behavioural difference
[21:26] <mgottschlag> but it might be easier to debug
[21:27] <_julian> mgottschlag: already did that. the code runs fine on x86 (obviously some differences in GL init exit, because on x86 it uses x11 windows instead of dispman windows and does not require the bcm init)
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[21:33] <gregj> IT_Sean: fair enough
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[21:41] <b03tz> Hi y'all :)
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[21:42] <b03tz> I have a weird problem :s when I read an input pin...and print it on the screen it shows as 0...when I so much as connect a cable it shows 1's and 0's randomly
[21:42] <b03tz> Anyone ever had that before?
[21:43] <IT_Sean> Sounds like it's floating
[21:43] <IT_Sean> i.e. not being pulled high or low
[21:43] <b03tz> Which means?
[21:43] <b03tz> Yes
[21:43] <b03tz> True that. But how can this be? The wire isn't even connected to anything...
[21:43] <mgottschlag> b03tz: you have to enable pullup/pulldown if you want a consistent value
[21:43] <IT_Sean> Your body's em feild can be affecting it
[21:44] <b03tz> Hmmm, that's maybe something to consider IT_Sean
[21:44] <b03tz> @mgottschlag: I want to be able to switch it
[21:44] <b03tz> I'm using a 10k resistor and a little switch on a breadboard...when I push it I get consistent 1's
[21:44] <b03tz> When I release it...it holds the 1 for a few seconds...then goes back to random 1 and 0
[21:45] <mgottschlag> pullup = "weak 1", pulldown = "weak 0"
[21:45] <mgottschlag> your switch is a strong 1/0 if you drop the resistor
[21:45] <b03tz> Ok, but when I say wiringpi.pullUpDnControl(6, 1) it just stays 1
[21:45] <mgottschlag> that is how you usually connect switches to a microcontroller
[21:45] <b03tz> I mean 0
[21:45] <b03tz> Sorry :)
[21:46] <mgottschlag> drop the resistor, it is too high, higher than the pullup
[21:46] <mgottschlag> leave it out completely
[21:46] <mgottschlag> then wire your switch directly to 1 (no idea whether that is GND or VDD)
[21:46] <b03tz> bam.
[21:46] <b03tz> Works
[21:46] <b03tz> Really weird, I didn't have this problem before :S
[21:47] <Joeboy> On my project I left a wire hanging off a pin and I could trigger it by waving my hand near it
[21:47] <mgottschlag> a weak 1 (resistor!) cannot overwrite a weak 0 (pullup)
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[21:47] <b03tz> So, mgottschlag...it's ok to directly route 3.3V into a GPIO pin for a hard 1
[21:47] <b03tz> ?
[21:47] <mgottschlag> I think so
[21:47] <mgottschlag> never set the pin to output though
[21:47] <b03tz> I'm just starting to discover this GPIO stuff...and it's been a while since I have messed with electronics...
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[21:49] <scummos> yes putting 3.3V into a pin is ok iff it is configured as input
[21:49] <b03tz> d0h o_0
[21:49] <b03tz> I was accidently using a 150k resistor
[21:49] <b03tz> Nevermind...I'm going to hit myself with something
[21:49] <zleap> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3158 great news
[21:49] <b03tz> hold on
[21:49] <b03tz> Ok i'm back.
[21:49] <b03tz> Thanks alot for the help ;)
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[21:50] <mgottschlag> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/tutorials/robot/buttons_and_switches/ schematics which are safe for output pins
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[21:51] <cave> hi all, i accidently deleted all groups from my user pi, is someone here which could post me, his /etc/group from raspbian? cat /etc/group | grep pi <-- would be enough
[21:51] <b03tz> mgottschlag: Thanks alot :)
[21:53] <cave> anyone here, which could post "cat /etc/group | grep pi" with his initial group settings
[21:53] <b03tz> I don't have raspbian, I'm running raspbmc :P
[21:54] <b03tz> adm:x:4:pi disk:x:6:pi lp:x:7:pi dialout:x:20:pi cdrom:x:24:pi audio:x:29:pi video:x:44:pi pi:x:1000:
[21:54] <b03tz> That is what I have
[21:54] <b03tz> very nice with the newlines...
[21:54] <b03tz> (using online IRC client)
[21:54] <cave> thx a lot, this would save me
[21:54] <b03tz> Cool :) no problem
[21:54] * cave offers bo3tz a cookie
[21:55] * b03tz likes cookies....*grateful*
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[21:55] <mdik> cat /etc/group | grep pi
[21:55] <b03tz> mdik, it's easier to run it on your pi
[21:55] <b03tz> :D
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[21:55] <mdik> adm:x:4:pi dialout:x:20:pi cdrom:x:24:pi sudo:x:27:pi audio:x:29:pi video:x:44:pi plugdev:x:46:pi games:x:60:pi users:x:100:pi pi:x:1000: netdev:x:105:pi input:x:999:pi indiecity:x:1001:pi
[21:56] <mdik> b03tz: well. since this irssi _is_ running on the pi, technically... (;
[21:56] <b03tz> Hehehehe nice one =)
[21:56] <mdik> but that's vanilla raspbian, cave
[21:56] <b03tz> Seems most users have the same values?
[21:57] <b03tz> Only different users
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[21:57] <mdik> what is indiecity btw?
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[21:58] <b03tz> the one stop shop for indie games?
[21:58] <b03tz> :p
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[22:03] <cave> thx mdik
[22:03] <cave> vanilla, like my pi
[22:04] <cave> indiecity is the Pi-Store
[22:04] <mdik> ok
[22:05] <b03tz> G2G
[22:05] <b03tz> cya guys
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[22:05] <b03tz> thanks alot :)
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[22:15] <gregj> heh, all great with the gert board - but they didn't include enough cables to run through examples
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[22:15] <gregj> overlook, or a flop ?
[22:16] <scummos> heh
[22:16] <scummos> ask gordonDrogon! ;)
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[22:16] * gordonDrogon waves.
[22:17] <gordonDrogon> I had to buy jumper wires to use with my Gertboard. But I've no idea what the Farnell board is supplied with.
[22:17] <gregj> there's 10 cables , 12 required
[22:17] <gordonDrogon> well there you go :)
[22:17] <gregj> bit of a fail
[22:17] <gordonDrogon> Just get some female-female jumper leads.
[22:18] <scummos> well it's not like jumper wires are expensive or difficult to get ;)
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[22:18] <gregj> I don't have any cables like that
[22:18] <gregj> shopes are closed
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[22:18] <gregj> I got the board and wanted to play around with it
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[22:18] <gregj> :/
[22:18] <scummos> use zero-ohm resistors! ;)
[22:19] <gregj> I don't want ot solder the pins, cos that always ends up a disaster
[22:19] <scummos> no of course, don't do that
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[22:21] <gregj> I'll twittwhine about it
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[22:21] <gregj> #fashionable
[22:21] <scummos> if you have e.g. old IDE cables... you can cut those in pieces ;)
[22:22] <scummos> everyone has old IDE cables
[22:22] <scummos> they're probably not ideal but it could work
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[22:22] <IT_Sean> Old floppy cables are better
[22:23] <_GhouL_> shiftplusone, do you remember the keyboard problem I had this morning?
[22:23] <gregj> I actually don't have any
[22:24] <gregj> I left them behind when I moved house
[22:24] <gregj> plus loads of old PCs
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[22:24] <scummos> too bad
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[22:24] <gordonDrogon> wel if you only have 10, then that'll do to start with.
[22:24] <scummos> hm what else can you do
[22:24] <gregj> at least I got some leds to blink
[22:24] <gregj> that's fine with me
[22:24] <gordonDrogon> that's a good start!
[22:25] <scummos> you can cut LEDs into pieces
[22:25] <gregj> not exactly the sage I got to with arduino
[22:25] <gregj> but well
[22:25] <scummos> in some cases you can also use a like 200 ohms resistor as jumper wire
[22:25] <gordonDrogon> what language are you programming in?
[22:25] <gregj> c++ and objective C
[22:26] <gordonDrogon> ok. wiringPi has a bunch of blink examples now.
[22:26] <gregj> for arduino it would be c++ of course
[22:26] <gregj> no point in using plain C these days
[22:26] <gordonDrogon> why of-course? I program all my arduinos in C.
[22:26] <gordonDrogon> I program everything in C.
[22:26] <gordonDrogon> or BASIC.
[22:26] <gordonDrogon> or php.
[22:26] <gregj> oh dear
[22:27] <gregj> C is fine for low level stuff. This is an arm cpu, that has plenty of powah and memory.
[22:27] <gregj> Plus C++ compilers these days are really good. Often times you have to write less code and you get output as efficient as if you coded that in C
[22:27] <gordonDrogon> If it's good enough for the Linux kernel, it's good enough for me.
[22:27] <gregj> :-)
[22:27] <gordonDrogon> I don't care. I'm not programming in c++ no matter how much you offer me. been there, done that, didn't like it.
[22:27] <gregj> loads of things were written in C, because people thougt that's the only choice
[22:28] <gordonDrogon> and wiringPi is C.
[22:28] <gregj> so called sheep effect :-)
[22:28] <gordonDrogon> but usable from c++
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[22:28] <gordonDrogon> I've been programming in C for over 30 years now. I don't think I qualify as sheeple.
[22:28] <gordonDrogon> I'm happy and it works for me.
[22:29] <gordonDrogon> BASIC too.
[22:29] <gordonDrogon> but I wrote my own basic interpreter.
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[22:29] <gordonDrogon> In C, of-course.
[22:29] <gregj> :-)
[22:29] <gregj> well, whatever suits you at the end of the day :-)
[22:29] <scummos> there is valid reasons to prefer C over C++
[22:29] <gregj> I was very hardcode C myself about 5-6 years ago
[22:29] <gregj> well, there's not
[22:29] <scummos> I just happen to like C++ more but
[22:29] <scummos> there is
[22:29] <scummos> C++ is a huge mess of stuff
[22:29] <gregj> ok, go on
[22:30] <gregj> that's not a reason
[22:30] <gregj> and c++ is not a mess of stuff
[22:30] <scummos> nobody who is writing C++ code knows more than like 10% of its features
[22:30] <scummos> it is
[22:30] <gregj> same goes for C
[22:30] <scummos> no
[22:30] <scummos> not as much
[22:30] <gregj> there's tons of stuff there that you don't know
[22:30] <mjr> it really doesn't
[22:30] <scummos> C is far smaller and easier to overview than C++
[22:30] <gregj> c++ is not that complicated, trust me
[22:30] <s5fs> scummos: i agree, but mostly because large parts of languages aren't really that useful, so why bother learning/using it?
[22:30] <scummos> c++ is horribly complicated
[22:30] <scummos> s5fs: yeah ;)
[22:31] <gregj> |loads of people write mash of C with C++/objects
[22:31] <gregj> |an
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[22:31] <scummos> yes that's what I find very annoying
[22:31] <scummos> and that's why I prefer C++ over C
[22:31] <gregj> and that leaves people like yourself with the feeling that it's overcomplicated
[22:31] <gregj> just look at good examples :-)
[22:31] <mjr> C is like your friendly monster in the closet, C++ is an eldritch multidimensional abomination waiting for the stars to be right again
[22:31] <gregj> you can shoot yourself in foot in C or c++
[22:31] <scummos> gregj: I don't think it's overcomplicated I just think it has a huge lot of features nobody needs
[22:31] <gregj> well people do need them :-)
[22:31] <scummos> plus some features everybody wants but it doesn't provice
[22:32] <scummos> *provide
[22:32] <scummos> C++11 fixes some of that but
[22:32] <gregj> it puts a bit more order into things then ordinary C
[22:32] <gregj> yup, c++11 is a good thing
[22:32] <scummos> gregj: oh yeah? when did you need the "register" specifier last time
[22:32] <gregj> I can write code in C++ that is efficient, simple to understand and looks pretty much like a script language
[22:32] <scummos> right: you *can* ;)
[22:33] <gregj> yet, it compiles to efficent code
[22:33] <scummos> but you can also write it terribly complicated
[22:33] <gregj> same goes for C
[22:33] <scummos> of course you can do that in every languages
[22:33] <scummos> -s
[22:33] <scummos> but it's especially bad in C++ from my experience ;p
[22:33] <gregj> just because you don't know something very well, doesn't make that scary
[22:34] <scummos> but using a language for years every day and not knowing half of its syntax is sort of scary
[22:34] <scummos> I mean look at python, its grammar fits on one A4 sheet
[22:34] <gregj> anyway, this is one of these things where you can argue forever
[22:34] <scummos> now look at C++ ;)
[22:34] <scummos> yeah that's right
[22:34] <gordonDrogon> I knew i860 dual instruction mode assembler once. I think I've almost eradicated it's memory.
[22:34] <gregj> I started my programming using 6502 assembler
[22:34] <gregj> moved to pascal, then x86 assembler, then C
[22:34] <gregj> I learn new language every few years
[22:35] <gordonDrogon> assembler? when I wur a lad it was binary all the way. We memorised opcodes 10101001 etc.
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[22:35] <gordonDrogon> (that's 0xA9 or LDA btw)
[22:35] <gregj> I did that too, I have notebooks full of hex machine code for 6502
[22:35] <gregj> 0x90 was NOP, afair
[22:35] <gregj> altho I forgot a lot of it
[22:36] <gregj> and that my friend, was a very cumbersome, complicated and so on
[22:36] <gregj> now, looking back - that's how I see C in comparison to c++
[22:36] <gregj> I still use C from time to time, to write some very low level stuff
[22:36] <gregj> but write everything in C++ if I need to build a library , tec
[22:36] <gordonDrogon> EA is nop
[22:36] <gregj> it gives things more structure
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[22:37] <gregj> and i have to worry less about memory leaks, which is a big thing in bigger projects
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[22:37] <gordonDrogon> anyway.... blink them LEDs with wiringPi :)
[22:37] <gregj> will do
[22:37] <gregj> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/ ?
[22:37] <gordonDrogon> thats the one.
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[22:38] <gordonDrogon> cd ; get clone git://git.drogon.net/wiringPi ; cd wiringPi ; ./build
[22:38] <gordonDrogon> s/get/git/
[22:38] <gregj> I loved the casio basic calculator
[22:38] <gregj> used to have one, but dunno where it is now
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[22:38] <gregj> and lol at mandelbrot
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[22:39] <gregj> btw, gertboard seems to have atmel uC. I wonder if it's preloaded with arduino
[22:40] <gordonDrogon> it's not.
[22:40] <gordonDrogon> it's blank.
[22:40] <gordonDrogon> you can program it from the Pi via the SPI interface and a bit-banging version of avrdude which I patched up some time back.
[22:41] <gordonDrogon> it runs at 12MHz.
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[22:42] <gordonDrogon> Now. How much effort do I put into fixing my Mk14 ...
[22:43] <scummos> what's an Mk14?
[22:43] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/stuff/mk14.jpg
[22:43] <gordonDrogon> one of those.
[22:44] <gordonDrogon> Sinclairs first computer
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[22:44] <zleap> cool
[22:45] <gregj> what's wrong with it
[22:45] <gordonDrogon> that photo was 2 or so years ago and it was working. fired it up earlier as someone has posted theirs on the Pi forum with the Pi downloading programs into it...
[22:45] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea yet. it's just not working. display shows something, but not the right thing.
[22:46] <scummos> woo nice
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[22:47] <gregj> working on two keyboards is never a good idea
[22:48] <gregj> I like rpi over arduino, cos it's more powerful and I can ssh onto it
[22:48] * scummos built another amplifier for the radio telescope
[22:48] <scummos> http://imgur.com/ftNYHRt,A0rVGUR#0
[22:48] <scummos> first image is a photo before soldering the plugs, second one is the gain
[22:48] <scummos> 41dB! ;)
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[22:48] <gregj> I don't get why people would want to use it as a computer, it is useless as even basic linux desktop
[22:49] <scummos> "better than nothing"
[22:49] <gregj> I suppose
[22:49] <zleap> depends on what you use a computer for
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[22:50] <zleap> you can check e-mail, use the web, use irc
[22:50] <zleap> type stuff
[22:50] <FrankBlues> And the power draw is quite low.
[22:50] <gregj> I have computer for that
[22:50] <gregj> bit more powerful
[22:50] <scummos> well the CPU is a bit crappy
[22:50] <scummos> but for basic stuff it would indeed be ok
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[22:50] <scummos> for non-basic stuff I would prefer something with a bit more than 5% of the SoC dedicated to CPU (on the pi almost everything is graphics stuff)
[22:51] <gregj> next weekend I'll have to try attaching motors, gyroscope and accelerometr to gertboard, and see if I can recreate my self ballancing robot
[22:51] <zleap> the idea is to complment a PC
[22:51] <zleap> and be used as a programming device,
[22:51] <FrankBlues> Right now I'm using mine for IRC/IM stuff, not sure what else to use it for other than basic computing right now.
[22:51] <gregj> to me it's a arduino on steroids
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[22:52] <gregj> I tried using it for simple linux desktop, but ti was uselesly slow
[22:52] <gregj> that was the first rpi, maybe this one is faster
[22:52] <scummos> yeah same for me
[22:52] <FrankBlues> Overclocked it does alright. Not so great for the web, though.
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[22:53] <FrankBlues> Oh, and some OS fiddling - Plan 9 and RiscOS
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[22:54] <scummos> try installing haiku
[22:54] <FrankBlues> Is there a haiku port yet?
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[22:55] <scummos> I just googled, at least there's compilation instructions: https://www.haiku-os.org/guides/building/compiling-arm
[22:55] <otak> having recently used a 200MHz pc for several months...
[22:55] <scummos> "There is an extremely early port of Haiku to the Raspberry Pi."
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[22:55] <gregj> if I'll get it to do this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RcVt0qxshE I'll be more then happy
[22:56] <gregj> altho this particular example is purely analog
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[23:01] <gregj> what I actually thought would be great (altho probably not possible with gertboard) is to use atmep to do the ballancing 'act', and rpi itself to control movement around using other sensory input
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[23:01] <gordonDrogon> gregj, you may suffer from timing issues on the Pi. it's not that good for real-time control under Linux.
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[23:02] <gregj> gordonDrogon: hence the plan to use atmel for the more realtime stuff
[23:03] <aDro> My Raspberry Pi webcam is coming along nicely... http://i.imgur.com/RcK2w5l.jpg
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[23:05] <gregj> lol, in the shower
[23:06] <richweskus> are you a chick?
[23:06] <gregj> doubt it
[23:06] <richweskus> aDro
[23:06] <richweskus> ....nivea for men.....nvm
[23:07] <gregj> :=
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[23:11] <gregj> Looks all OK - Happy ATmega programming
[23:11] <gregj> :=]
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[23:16] <gregj> time to blink a led now using arduino
[23:16] * gregj ->drumroll();
[23:16] <richweskus> void
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[23:19] <gregj> aaand,
[23:19] <gregj> it blinks !
[23:19] <gregj> gordonDrogon: thanks for that :-)
[23:20] <gregj> http://cl.ly/image/3z3q1S1X220I
[23:20] <gregj> this is why I like rpi
[23:20] <gregj> ssh -X , I don't need to hook it up to any monitors, none of that nonsense. Static IP, static route, cable plugged into my mac, done
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[23:22] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/stuff/mk14-e.jpg
[23:22] <gordonDrogon> it's alive!
[23:22] <gregj> come to think of it, rpi image should come with static ip option - so I won't have to set it up first
[23:22] <gregj> gordonDrogon: that was easy then
[23:22] <gregj> error ;>
[23:23] <gordonDrogon> error is good. shows the cpu is doing something.
[23:23] <gregj> true
[23:23] <gordonDrogon> it's a multiplexed display & keyboard.
[23:23] <gregj> I see you did the 101 of reviving, they shall check their voltages
[23:23] <gordonDrogon> done in software.
[23:23] <gregj> nice
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[23:23] <gregj> so it is basically a calculator with cpu and ability to program it ?
[23:24] <gregj> or can you hook up some external devices to it ?
[23:24] <gordonDrogon> the red & black is the PSU - the probe goes to my scope. it's wibbling at 4.33MHz.
[23:24] <gregj> http://s400081762.websitehome.co.uk
[23:24] <gregj> yeah, I see you're checking the oscilator there
[23:24] <gordonDrogon> why hide the URL in websitehome?
[23:24] <gregj> don't ask me :-)
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[23:25] <gregj> that's what I googled
[23:25] <gordonDrogon> http://www.mymk14.co.uk/
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[23:25] <gordonDrogon> oh. hm.
[23:26] <gregj> it's a rare thing apparently
[23:26] <gregj> you won't find it on ebay
[23:26] <zleap> it would be good to build something like tht, i wonder if hope much it would treach people about what is inside a computer
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[23:29] <zleap> i wonder how much it would teach people
[23:29] <gordonDrogon> last MK14 sold on ebay went for over ?1000 and it wasn't working.
[23:29] <gordonDrogon> last working one was ?1700 IIRC.
[23:29] <zleap> wow
[23:29] <gordonDrogon> I want a curta calculator.
[23:29] <gordonDrogon> I'd swap it for one.
[23:29] <zleap> there are instructions out there for building z80 based cmputers
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[23:32] <gregj> hmm, trying to add second led to blink led example
[23:32] <gregj> doesn't work
[23:32] <gregj> http://cl.ly/image/313Z2V3a3b46 trouble in the paradise
[23:32] <gregj> 'verification error'
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[23:34] <gregj> unless that pin is used for something
[23:34] <gregj> if in doubt , it's your fault
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[23:38] <gregj> gordonDrogon: help
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[23:39] <gregj> now even a simple example doesn't work
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[23:42] <poli> gregj I did not follow the conversation, but shouldn't you try ##arduino?
[23:43] <gregj> doing avrsetup fixes it again
[23:43] <gregj> poli: well, if you didn't follow conversation you don't know that I'm doing it on raspberrypi
[23:43] <gregj> and gertboard
[23:43] <poli> gregj: bingo that was what the introduction was for.
[23:44] <poli> gregj: just trying to help
[23:44] <gregj> telling someone to go away is not help frankly
[23:45] <poli> gregj I surely did not do that. And being both a raspberry pi and arduino user, I just received a lot of feedback about this in the other channel.
[23:46] <gregj> gordonDrogon: it looks like I have to reset it and do avrsetup in between every program
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[23:50] <gregj> so I just used ??30 quid raspberypi to program ??30 gertboard with atmel on it to blink two leds.
[23:51] <[Ex0r]> lmao
[23:51] <[Ex0r]> seems like a worthwhile investment
[23:51] <gregj> oh, and all that from ??2000 mbp
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[23:52] <gregj> time to hit the bed
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