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IRC Log for 2013-02-02

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[0:03] <Hopsy> hey it works now
[0:03] <Hopsy> :D
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[0:10] <xiambax> Whats the best way of sharing file locally between computers over a network. Faster the better! Samba? AFP? or NFS?
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[0:15] <mdik> xiambax: i, for now, just use fish (file transfer via ssh)
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[0:16] <mdik> xiambax: in dolphin, konqueror or other kde file browsers it's just fish:/pi@123.123.1.2:/
[0:16] <xiambax> what did you say before that
[0:16] <xiambax> my shit just crashed
[0:16] <mdik> that i use the protocols that build on ssh
[0:16] <xiambax> I want this to act as the file server
[0:16] <xiambax> no gui
[0:16] <xiambax> sshfs?
[0:17] <mdik> xiambax: the pi just runs ssh. and then on my desktop i use the filemanagers things
[0:17] <mdik> but sshfs is an option, too.
[0:17] <xiambax> cyberduck and what not
[0:17] <xiambax> winscp etc
[0:17] <mdik> dolphin, konqueror, whatever filemanager
[0:18] <mdik> oh. on windows i have no idea. sorry
[0:18] <mdik> i don't know how well windows handles this
[0:19] <mdik> xiambax: but another way, if you only want to download files from the pi, is to just start up a tiny webserver, serving those files
[0:19] <xiambax> I want to connect a 1tb drive to my pi
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[0:20] <xiambax> have it act as a file server internal then i will host them via my webserve
[0:26] <LilSnoop4> question, when watching a movie on raspbmc how come i select pause to let the buffer catch up it does nothing... when i try to stream from an addon it keeps stopping to buffer
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[0:33] <ParkerR> LilSnoop4, Sometimes the buffer is a set length
[0:34] <krosis> the small memory of the pi might be your limiting factor for the buffer
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[0:34] * krosis just guesses
[0:35] <mdik> xiambax: so this 1tb drive is just connected via usb?
[0:35] <mdik> if yes, just partition and format it with ext3 or ext4 and mount it.
[0:40] <LilSnoop4> how can i fix this parkr please
[0:40] <ParkerR> LilSnoop4, Wait fir it to buffer
[0:40] <ParkerR> Or find another source
[0:40] <ParkerR> *for
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[0:44] <Hopsy> what does 'auto lo wlan0' means exactly?
[0:45] <ParkerR> I think it just means to automatically activate lo (local interface) and wlan0
[0:47] <Hopsy> okay because when I change this 'auto lo' to 'auto lo wlan0' I cant connect through lan cable
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[0:49] <ParkerR> Hopsy, add auto wlan0 as another line
[0:49] <ParkerR> And leave the previous one as auto lo
[0:50] <Hopsy> thats an option yes haha, lemme try
[0:50] <LilSnoop4> is there any point to add in a advancedsetting file?
[0:51] <KiltedPi> lo doesn't mean 'loopback'?
[0:52] <ParkerR> KiLaHuRtZ, It does. Couldnt think of the name
[0:52] <ParkerR> But its the interface for localhost connnection
[0:52] <ParkerR> *connections
[0:52] <KiltedPi> yeah
[0:52] <LilSnoop4> when i add in an advancedsetting file in, now when i select a movie in navi-x it tries to boot then you see he ip and it won't load
[0:53] <ParkerR> LilSnoop4, what did you add to advabcedsettings.xml?
[0:53] <ParkerR> *advancedsettings.xml
[0:56] <xiambax> anyone else powering their rpi off their router?
[0:56] <xiambax> its brilliant
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[0:57] <ParkerR> PoE?
[0:57] <ParkerR> xiambax,
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[0:57] <xiambax> no, just usb
[0:57] <xiambax> does rpi support poe?
[0:57] <ParkerR> Ahh
[0:57] <ParkerR> With a modification yes
[0:58] <ParkerR> But
[0:58] <ParkerR> The mod I saw hijacked the voltage lines and ged it to the USB port
[0:58] <ParkerR> *fed
[0:58] <ParkerR> So not really true PoE
[0:58] <ParkerR> But close enough
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[0:59] <ParkerR> Bbiab
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[1:00] <xiambax> mmmm this taco salad is delicious
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[1:06] <K4k> So, here's a fun question. I removed the "pi" user from /etc/sudoers and forgot to add my new user in it's place. I'm running rasbian, what's the best way to go about getting root since I can't just append a "1" on the grub kernel line with the rpi?
[1:07] <malcom2073> K4k: Can you remove the SD card, plug it into another PC, and re-add pi?
[1:07] <malcom2073> or whatever user you want?
[1:07] <K4k> malcom2073: oh, right, I forgot I was working with an SD card
[1:07] * K4k feels silly now
[1:07] <malcom2073> It's very convenient :)
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[1:10] <K4k> I sometimes forget to think outside the box and forget that the / file system on one system is just another mountable filesystem on another system.
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[1:17] <hobo> hey, has anybody worked with rpi and xbees?
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[1:19] <malcom2073> Are RPI's sold out everywhere now
[1:19] <malcom2073> ?
[1:20] <techman2> E14 Aus have stock
[1:20] <techman2> http://au.element14.com/raspberry-pi/raspbrry-modb-512m/sbc-raspberry-pi-model-b-512mb/dp/219186301?in_merch=New%20Products
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[1:21] <malcom2073> hmm
[1:22] <plugwash> malcom2073, probablly not everywhere but it's probablly not very helpful to give you infomation on stock on the other side of the world
[1:22] <plugwash> so where are you?
[1:22] <malcom2073> Heh, USA
[1:23] <grantsmith> when i ordered from e14 (usa) they said they had stock, yet still back-ordered
[1:23] <grantsmith> i got it in about 15 days though
[1:24] <techman2> yeah E14/Newark seem to have the most stable supply
[1:24] <techman2> not sure how RS/Allied are these days
[1:24] <malcom2073> Hmm, yeah it says no stock on E14's US website right now
[1:24] <plugwash> right now mcm claim to have stock, allied and newark seem to be out of stock
[1:25] <grantsmith> just order it. they are pretty quick
[1:25] <malcom2073> Hm. Maybe I'll just try to RMA this one rather than buying another heh
[1:25] <techman2> according to their site they are expecting another ~5000 on 13th feb
[1:26] <techman2> E14 that is
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[1:29] <bonks> Hey guys what would be the easiest way to access a headless rpi without a central network? I thought I would create an access point on the pi but my usb wifi doesn't support master mode.
[1:31] <grantsmith> cross-over cat5 cable, perhaps?
[1:31] <pksato> bonks: ah-hoc wireless network. but, it not supported by some adapters/
[1:31] <pksato> or OS.
[1:31] <bonks> Oh wait this is for when I'm out. So unless I have a laptop I don't think I can do cross-over. My client would be my android phone
[1:32] <bonks> Hmm ad-hoc... what does that mean basically?
[1:32] <pksato> as it.
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[1:35] <bonks> Hmm I'm starting to think getting a master mode usb wifi is easiest. Can any of you recommend one that works?
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[1:37] <mrj10> hi all. does anyone know the footprint, model number, and/or specs of the 1.0uH inductor used in the VDD_CORE regulator (L5 on the Model B)?
[1:37] <mrj10> i'm estimating it's a 1210 footprint, but not entirely sure, don't have calipers :)
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[1:39] <grantsmith> bonks, apparently the Atheros chipset usb cards work with linux in master mode
[1:39] <grantsmith> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Router/Madwifi
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[1:39] <grantsmith> thats for ubuntu, but.. same thing
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[1:40] <grantsmith> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/MasterMode
[1:40] <bonks> grantsmith: That's my only hope right now so I'll check it out. Thanks!
[1:41] <mrj10> i imagine it'd need to be rated at 1A or higher, but can't find any info on how much current the VDD_CORE domain draws
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[1:44] <mrj10> oops, 1008 footprint, not 1210
[1:44] <scummos> is there an obvious way to get a COM-like interface on the GPIOs?
[1:44] <sofyan> can anyone help me ?
[1:44] <scummos> i.e. a kernel driver which uses some of the GPIOs as COM port
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[1:45] <mrj10> scummos: anything useful here? http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/1987/can-raspberry-pi-reliably-bit-bang-a-9600-baud-serial-and-is-there-example-code
[1:45] <sofyan> i want to install huawei E173 3g dongle i tried sakis3g and wvdial can anyone tell me how to do it ?
[1:45] <plugwash> there is a hardware uart available on the GPIO header
[1:46] <plugwash> I don't think a software uart is very practical in a multitasking environment
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[1:46] <scummos> mjam: hm yeah, but that would be a bit pedantic I guess...
[1:46] <plugwash> (except possibly at very low data rates)
[1:47] <scummos> I have an ISP tool for a microcontroller here which wants a COM port
[1:47] <scummos> as in, device file
[1:47] <scummos> ah how about ttyS0
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[1:54] <sofyan> i want to install huawei E173 3g dongle i tried sakis3g and wvdial can anyone tell me how to do it ?
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[1:59] <tomw889> Hello?
[1:59] <malcom2073> Hi
[1:59] <tomw889> Anything much going on here?
[2:00] <malcom2073> Random assortment of stuff
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[2:02] <tomw889> I'm actually looking at getting my Pi going as an IRC server
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[2:04] <malcom2073> Cool
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[2:06] <ccokee> Im trying to run a .sh script as root on the terminal and it says Bash: Permission denied (i made chmod +x to the file)
[2:06] <ccokee> does anyone know why this happends
[2:06] <Armand> tomw889, that could be a lot of log activity.. lots of writes.
[2:06] <tomw889> suo chmod +x
[2:06] <tomw889> sudo!!
[2:06] <tomw889> sorry, typo
[2:06] <Armand> derp
[2:07] <tomw889> you mean writes to the SD card?
[2:07] <ccokee> tomw889: still denies :S
[2:07] <tomw889> have you killed one?
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[2:08] <tomw889> give the root user a password with "sudo passwd root"
[2:08] <Armand> tomw889, I haven't...
[2:08] <tomw889> and then switch to the root account and try from there
[2:08] <malcom2073> <tomw889> give the root user a password with "sudo passwd root" <- security risk
[2:09] <tomw889> Not really, sudo it just as dangerous.. make the password something crazy
[2:09] <malcom2073> ccokee: If you're running it: sudo myscript.sh and it's failing, it's entirely possible a command inside the file is failing
[2:09] <ccokee> tomw889: it has password, i tried with the root account already
[2:09] <Armand> tomw889, but, yeah.. you'll want to configure the logging properly. ;)
[2:09] <tomw889> sudo ./script.py!
[2:09] <tomw889> give that a shot
[2:09] <malcom2073> Proper way to log into root: sudo su
[2:10] <pksato> ccokee: where is .sh script?
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[2:10] <tomw889> malcom2073 yes that's right
[2:10] <ccokee> pksato: on the download folder in a mounted usb hard drive
[2:10] <tomw889> has anyone looked into the potential life span of the SD cards? I'm running mine 24/7
[2:10] <tomw889> as a home server
[2:11] <pksato> ccokee: and, hd is fat or ntfs?
[2:11] <ccokee> pksato: ntfs (but i've ntfs3g)
[2:11] <pksato> fat and ntfs not are mount with exec flag.
[2:12] <pksato> Can not run from these fs.
[2:12] <malcom2073> I believe you can do sudo bash script.sh
[2:12] <malcom2073> ?
[2:12] <malcom2073> even on non-executable-bit capable file systems
[2:13] <tomw889> yerp
[2:13] <ccokee> pksato: moved to the sd and worked properly... lots of thanks
[2:13] <pksato> but, have security risk.
[2:14] <tomw889> so had anyone thought seriously about the lifespan of the SD cards?
[2:15] <tomw889> has*
[2:15] <malcom2073> I've killed an SD once, but I was running windows, and compiling code on it
[2:15] <malcom2073> on a regular basis
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[2:15] <malcom2073> If you're really concerned about it, set up your OS to have a read only rootfs
[2:15] <tomw889> oh i see, wow I've never heard
[2:16] <ccokee> errrrr... so i was trying to install jdownloader, but seems that it doesnt work on raspbian... am i right?
[2:16] <tomw889> yeah to be honest I'm not concerned at all, just people keep hinting at it. I've got a friend that has been running his non stop since he got it.. no problems
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[2:17] <tomw889> and i also hear that the bigger the card the longer the lifespan due to more read/write cycles and I'm running a 32gb sd
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[2:20] <ccokee> :( there is no jdownloader for the raspberry pi?
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[2:21] <chithead> it is almost impossible to wear out sd cards through writes
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[2:22] <pksato> JDownloader requires Java Runtime Enviroment (jre/jdk) 1.5 or higher.
[2:23] <pksato> java on rpi?
[2:23] <ccokee> pksato: i've got 1.6 (iced tea)
[2:23] <pksato> I think, need a Soft-float version of raspbian.
[2:24] <pksato> or no Oracle java.
[2:24] <pksato> I dont know.
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[2:24] <ccokee> pksato: this is openjdk
[2:25] <ccokee> its java
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[2:27] <Armand> sorry, tomw889.. I was chatting with the gf.
[2:28] <Armand> Simply for the sake of paranoia.. I'd offload the logging to another storage device, if you want to keep IRC logs that is.
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[2:32] <tomw889> Yep, that's what I thought.. I don't think I'll worry
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[2:32] <tomw889> keeping logs somewhere else is probably a good idea though
[2:33] <Altimeter> Most things I've read seem to indicate that fear of too many read/writes on SD isn't really something to worry about these days.
[2:33] <Altimeter> I mean, unless it's something like malcom said, where you're using the everloving crap out of it.
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[2:47] <SpeedEvil> unfortunately.
[2:47] <SpeedEvil> SD cards vary in their implementation of wear leveling.
[2:47] <SpeedEvil> and they can fail hard instantly, with no notice
[2:48] <SpeedEvil> they may well not fail gradually
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[2:53] <Torikun> Raspberry PI makes a good squid and openvpn server
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[3:12] <ball> I just found a 2G SD card. What's a sensible choice for my first Raspberri Pi image?
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[3:14] <poli> ball will a raspbian fit in a 2GB SD card?
[3:14] <ball> poli: I don't know.
[3:14] <ball> I don't have an SDHC reader though, so 2G is my limit for the time being.
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[3:17] <UnaClocker> There's a barebones minimal distro that'd be great on a 2GB card.. Only install the stuff you need after you get booted up..
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[3:29] <ball> UnaClocker: What is its name?
[3:29] <UnaClocker> Don't recall.. Lemme dig around real quick.
[3:30] <UnaClocker> ball: http://www.raspbian.org/HexxehImages Right there, 222mb image..
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[3:38] <UnaClocker> I want a red Pi! :)
[3:39] <UnaClocker> red Pi, Red Pi. All work and no play makes jack a dull boy. Red Pi Red Pi
[3:39] <UnaClocker> ;)
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[3:44] <ball> Thanks UnaClocker
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[3:48] <xiambax-laptop> how can i see a list of usb devices?
[3:48] <ShiftPlusOne> lsusb
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[3:53] <xiambax-laptop> it sees my webcam
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[4:01] * plugwash wonders how long it will be before red pis show up on ebay
[4:02] <plugwash> with an item location of "hong kong, united kingdom"
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[4:02] <plugwash> (assuming ebays item location system still has that glitch.......)
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[4:06] <xiambax-laptop> i cant install v4l2
[4:06] <UnaClocker> plugwash: Yeah, I'm looking forward to it.. And I bet they're under $35.. And I bet they use substandard components.. ;)
[4:07] <SpeedEvil> broad com parts are hard to get unless you are a very large OEM
[4:08] <SpeedEvil> it is unlikely clones will appear
[4:08] <UnaClocker> SpeedEvil: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3195
[4:08] * ShiftPlusOne wouldn't mind a pi-like device that uses omap or something like that.
[4:08] <UnaClocker> They can certainly use knockoff voltage regulators/caps, and ram..
[4:11] <SpeedEvil> oh, right
[4:12] <SpeedEvil> I see no especial reason these would be not fcc/... if tested
[4:12] <Opinie> has anyone thought of ways to use the pi to aid studying in general?
[4:13] <SpeedEvil> Opinie: it's a computer
[4:13] <plugwash> from what eben says in the comments it seems not putting on the fcc/ce markings is deliberate to discourage paralell imports
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[4:13] <SpeedEvil> plugwash: they are not required for subassemblies
[4:13] <UnaClocker> Yup.. Like that stops sellers on eBay.. The ones that sell firestarters badged as authentic iPhone chargers.
[4:14] <Opinie> SpeedEvil: I have noticed that, yes
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[4:14] <plugwash> UnaClocker, unfortunately most of those have CE/FCC marks..........
[4:14] <UnaClocker> hehe..
[4:14] <ryzen2010> setup my RPi for Bit coin minning
[4:14] <Xark> UnaClocker: You think it is possible they will advertise a green and ship a red? Unpossible! :)
[4:15] <UnaClocker> They won't get many sales that way.. These things are going to be highly sought after for awhile.
[4:15] <ryzen2010> anyone overlock this RPi to the max
[4:15] <plugwash> SpeedEvil, sure I said discourage, not completely prevent
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[4:15] <UnaClocker> ryzen2010: Yeah, I got 1150MHz out of one.. Moments before my SD image got corrupted.
[4:15] <ryzen2010> u think its because if the heat
[4:15] <plugwash> i'm sure some collectors will import a red pi even if it costs more than buying a green pi locally
[4:15] <ryzen2010> of the heat
[4:16] <UnaClocker> Not really.
[4:16] <Xark> UnaClocker: Seems that would make them somewhat easy to get removed from ebay (but perhaps they can still win at "whack-a-mole").
[4:16] <UnaClocker> Yeah, we'll see..
[4:16] <plugwash> is it actually illegal to import a non CE marked device for your own use from a seller in china?
[4:16] <UnaClocker> Arduino certainly plays whack-a-mole with the clones.. Yet I can buy one any day of the week.
[4:16] <plugwash> or is it only illegal to sell it?
[4:17] <SpeedEvil> plugwash: no
[4:17] <SpeedEvil> plugwash: it is illegal to distribute it in the UK, as a finished system
[4:18] <SpeedEvil> plugwash: for example, placing in a plastic box, and testing for CE would make it completely legal
[4:18] <SpeedEvil> actually, without the box even
[4:22] <Opinie> SpeedEvil: have you actually read up on this?
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[4:22] <plugwash> however AIUI to be reasonablly sure of being legal you would have to either test every device or take steps to be reasonablly sure that your supplier wasn't changing things behind your back
[4:22] <SpeedEvil> yes
[4:23] <SpeedEvil> you need at the very minimum, a 'technical construction file' available for inspection.
[4:23] <Opinie> are you a lawyer?
[4:24] <SpeedEvil> this can contain as little as 'we diddn't test it, because it's in a meter thick welded copper box'
[4:24] <SpeedEvil> it will usually require test reports.
[4:24] <SpeedEvil> no, however I did a lot of reading on the topic when it was introduced
[4:25] <Opinie> ok
[4:25] <SpeedEvil> in principle, the fines are nasty
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[4:26] <SpeedEvil> I am unsure how many fines have actually been levied for emc violations
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[4:33] <Torikun> yo
[4:34] <pronto> hi
[4:34] <ShiftPlusOne> ahoy
[4:34] <SpeedEvil> http://www.mail-archive.com/emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org/msg36386.html
[4:34] <SpeedEvil> looks useful
[4:34] <SpeedEvil> but the ui sucks, and I can't read the thread
[4:35] <ShiftPlusOne> Hm, think I'll ask my brother to send me a red pi when he is in china next time =)
[4:37] <SpeedEvil> http://www.compliance-club.com/archive/old_archive/980816.html
[4:37] <SpeedEvil> is the only case I can find
[4:38] <ShiftPlusOne> Isn't there some legal database you can search with full transcripts and everything?
[4:38] <SpeedEvil> no
[4:38] <SpeedEvil> not of every court in the land
[4:38] <SpeedEvil> higher courts are well reported generally
[4:39] <SpeedEvil> http://www.bailii.org
[4:39] <SpeedEvil> for example (not free)
[4:39] <SpeedEvil> lower courts implement the law.
[4:39] <ShiftPlusOne> Hm, I thought that would be kind of part of the whole tranparency thing, aside from national security matters 'course.
[4:39] <SpeedEvil> higher courts can set precedent, so are more widely reported
[4:40] <SpeedEvil> lower court verdicts are only relevant to the parties, in general.
[4:40] <ShiftPlusOne> fair enough
[4:43] <SpeedEvil> and no, I'm not a lawyer, though I have spent ridiculous amount of time studying case law and legislation over the past 2 years
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[4:51] <xiambax-laptop> I want a RED RPI!
[4:51] * pronto hands xiambax-laptop some red paint
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[4:51] <UnaClocker> Yeah, I can't wait to get one myself. :)
[4:52] <Torikun> what is a red pi
[4:52] <UnaClocker> Torikun: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3195
[4:52] <pronto> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3195
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[4:53] <Torikun> same specs?
[4:53] <pronto> not a clue, i just linked
[4:53] <UnaClocker> Cheaper components, no holds barred.
[4:53] <pronto> quick search
[4:53] <xiambax-laptop> Anyone in China want to ship me one?
[4:53] <Torikun> if the componets are cheapr, why bother ?
[4:54] <UnaClocker> They'll be on eBay, just like everything else from China..
[4:54] <pronto> wow, putting the pi in a case sure makes the temp sky rocket
[4:54] <pronto> http://raspberry.bagels.xxx/templog.php
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[4:54] <UnaClocker> Torikun: They're for the Chinese market, not intended for export..
[4:54] <Torikun> so
[4:54] <Torikun> why would oyu want one?
[4:54] <UnaClocker> Because it's red.
[4:55] <pronto> ^
[4:55] <Torikun> it does look cool
[4:55] <pronto> if it was purple i'd buy it
[4:55] <Torikun> i rather have reliability
[4:55] <UnaClocker> I'd rather have red.
[4:55] <xiambax-laptop> lol sex bagels
[4:55] <pronto> <ravens fan (USA football(american sport))
[4:55] <UnaClocker> Torikun: Good news is the green ones will still be standard/all you can easily get outside of china.. Even still available IN China..
[4:56] <Torikun> ah
[4:56] <UnaClocker> But there will most certainly be a huge market for people that like red PCB's..
[4:56] <pronto> woah
[4:56] <pronto> its $3
[4:57] <pronto> http://mall.egoman.com.cn/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=75&Itemid=218
[4:57] <pronto> 278 yen = 3 usd
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[5:00] <UnaClocker> You guys see my crazy Raspberry Pi mod I did last weekend? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1EihTxIdnQ hehe
[5:00] * Torikun loads
[5:00] <Torikun> lower power consumption?
[5:00] <Torikun> why!
[5:00] <Torikun> lol
[5:00] <UnaClocker> Lapdock
[5:00] <UnaClocker> Went from 5 hours of battery life to over 8 1/2...
[5:01] <Torikun> wow
[5:01] <Torikun> are you on your lapdock now?
[5:01] <UnaClocker> That one chip draws more than the rest of the board combined.
[5:01] <UnaClocker> Nah, it's sitting next to me, and I'm normally chatting on it, but haven't logged in from it yet this weekend.
[5:01] <Torikun> what's that chip called/dor
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[5:02] <UnaClocker> It's the USB hub/ethernet chip.
[5:02] <Torikun> oh
[5:02] <UnaClocker> It's really the only difference between a Model B and a Model A..
[5:02] <Torikun> and memory
[5:02] <UnaClocker> Though there won't be a 512mb Model A..
[5:02] <SpeedEvil> what did you do ?
[5:02] <UnaClocker> At least not initially.
[5:02] <SpeedEvil> (YouTube not possible here)
[5:02] <UnaClocker> SpeedEvil: Desoldered/removed the chip.
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[5:03] <SpeedEvil> the USB is exposed?
[5:03] <UnaClocker> There's a pair of zero ohm resistors that aren't installed on the back of the Model B.. Simply jumper those and the one USB port is brought over to the lower USB jack.
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[5:04] <SpeedEvil> I wonder if it does USB host
[5:04] <Torikun> lol how did you remove it
[5:04] <SpeedEvil> err
[5:04] <SpeedEvil> device
[5:04] <UnaClocker> Hot air rework station..
[5:04] <Torikun> it actually unsoldered the chip?
[5:04] <SpeedEvil> UnaClocker: MA?
[5:04] <SpeedEvil> (when done)
[5:04] <UnaClocker> Ahh, went from 320ma to 118ma...
[5:05] <Torikun> UnaClocker: that actually removed the solder from the chip?
[5:05] <SpeedEvil> Wow
[5:05] <UnaClocker> Yeah.. That's a really power hungry chip..
[5:05] <SpeedEvil> UnaClocker: that's @5v?
[5:05] <UnaClocker> Yes, that's with an amp meter on the 5v input to the Pi.
[5:05] <Torikun> cool
[5:05] <UnaClocker> All covered in that video, shame you can't view it.. :)
[5:05] <SpeedEvil> UnaClocker: In principle, you could drop quite a lot more with SMPS
[5:06] <Torikun> loving this video
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[5:06] <UnaClocker> SpeedEvil: Possibly, but as the load goes down, linear regulators can sometimes beat the efficiency of a switch mode.
[5:06] <plugwash> Torikun, you don't need to remove the solder you just need to melt it
[5:06] <Torikun> oh
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[5:06] <plugwash> then you just lift the chip off while it's hot
[5:07] <Torikun> can you put the chip back in?
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[5:07] <UnaClocker> Yeah
[5:07] <UnaClocker> If I can figure out where I tossed it.. ;)
[5:07] <Torikun> lol
[5:07] <SpeedEvil> UnaClocker: not at 500mw though
[5:07] <plugwash> you probablly could, whether it will work afterwards would depend on your soldering skills
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[5:08] <SpeedEvil> putting it back generally requires rebelling
[5:08] <UnaClocker> The biggest concern I'd have is that it wasn't properly dried before desoldering.. And it'd certainly need to be dried before reinstalling.
[5:09] <plugwash> It's not a BGA so there are no balls to replace
[5:09] <SpeedEvil> if there is the slightest hint of damp, bake the thing at 80c for 5 hours
[5:09] <UnaClocker> Yeah, it's a QFN package.
[5:09] <SpeedEvil> plugwash: oh, qfn?
[5:09] <plugwash> yeah I think it's something like that
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[5:10] <plugwash> the connections (other than the ground pad) are certainly round the edge not all over
[5:10] <UnaClocker> Yeah, I downloaded the datasheet for it.. Along with the Pi's schematics..
[5:10] <SpeedEvil> qfn sounds likely then
[5:10] <UnaClocker> Had to figure out how to get the USB port out after the mod..
[5:11] <plugwash> but still IMO you'd have to be a real cheapskate or desperate to try and reuse a chip you removed
[5:11] <UnaClocker> heh
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[5:12] <herdingcat> hi, for rpi-firmware git repo, which branch is the latest?
[5:12] <xiambax-laptop> that usb hack is cool. UnaClocker
[5:12] <xiambax-laptop> still watching the video
[5:12] <ShiftPlusOne> herdingcat, latest as in 'probably won't run' latest or latest that works?
[5:13] <plugwash> Well beyond the fact that unaclocker knows how to desolder stuff it isn't really telling us anything we didn't know already
[5:14] <plugwash> the fact that the usb hub with ethernet chip is a power hog and the existance of sites for zero ohm links to bring out the single port when it's not fitted have been known for ages
[5:14] <UnaClocker> hrmph.
[5:14] <UnaClocker> I actually found a post by Rob or Eben on the RaspberryPi.org site with the exact numbers I got, when they compared the model A to the model B..
[5:15] <UnaClocker> 320ma and 120ma..
[5:15] <xiambax-laptop> where can i order one of those lapdocks cheap
[5:15] <UnaClocker> Amazon has them for like $77.. Finding them for $40 like I did takes a bit of luck..
[5:15] <ShiftPlusOne> xiambax-laptop, search amazon and be sure to double check the keyboard layout
[5:15] <ShiftPlusOne> Don't want to get a shiny new lapdock only to realise all the keys are in hebrew
[5:16] <xiambax-laptop> cant find one
[5:16] <UnaClocker> I like my UK keyboard layout.. Matches the Pi's default.
[5:16] <UnaClocker> xiambax-laptop: http://www.amazon.com/Motorola-Bionic-Lapdock--Retail-Packaging/dp/B005OOIS1U/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1359778583&sr=8-1&keywords=lapdock
[5:17] <herdingcat> ShiftPlusOne, but what about master branch?
[5:17] <herdingcat> ShiftPlusOne, I view git log seems quite newer than next.
[5:17] <ShiftPlusOne> herdingcat, what about it?
[5:17] <ShiftPlusOne> that doesn't sound right
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[5:17] <ShiftPlusOne> It might have had changes from next merged into it recently
[5:18] <ShiftPlusOne> which would show it up as newer
[5:19] <xiambax-laptop> is that the exact one i can order?
[5:21] <herdingcat> ShiftPlusOne, so actually next branch would be good. right?
[5:21] <UnaClocker> Yup.. Not the "used from $50".. I'd go that route for the lower price.
[5:21] <UnaClocker> Note, not not.. ;)
[5:22] <ShiftPlusOne> herdingcat, last time I tried the latest from next, my pi wouldn't boot. If there is something from next that you actually need, check which revision you need and get that one. For example, I am using the wake from halt feature from 'next' and it works fine.
[5:22] <xiambax-laptop> I will wait till next payday.
[5:22] <xiambax-laptop> i just spend 2400 bucks
[5:22] <xiambax-laptop> s/spent
[5:23] <UnaClocker> Eee gads.. ;) Last time I spent that much, I was buying my car.
[5:23] <xiambax-laptop> rent and savings account
[5:23] <xiambax-laptop> boom, buyin stocks.
[5:23] <UnaClocker> Mmm yeah..
[5:23] <xiambax-laptop> If rim makes a companys this guy is loaded.
[5:23] <ShiftPlusOne> You can buy a pony for that much
[5:23] <xiambax-laptop> s/ if rim makes a come back
[5:23] <xiambax-laptop> wow.
[5:23] <xiambax-laptop> lol
[5:23] <Torikun> they are no longer called RIM
[5:23] <xiambax-laptop> me no think well.
[5:23] <xiambax-laptop> BB
[5:24] <xiambax-laptop> Whatever :P
[5:24] <Torikun> lol
[5:24] <ShiftPlusOne> Actually, I just checked, you can get a pony for free, nvrm.
[5:25] <plugwash> the cost with ponies isn't the cost of getting them, it's the cost of maintaining them once you get them...
[5:25] <xiambax-laptop> get a dog, if all fails. dog food
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[5:27] <Torikun> anyone play with openVPN on the pi?
[5:27] <Torikun> or squid
[5:30] <xiambax-laptop> dammit
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[5:31] <xiambax-laptop> those lapdocks wont ship to canada
[5:31] <UnaClocker> Mmm, lame.
[5:31] <Torikun> how much you see it for
[5:31] <xiambax-laptop> and amazon.ca doesnt carry them
[5:31] <Torikun> i could buy a netbook for the cost of a lapdock and pi lol
[5:31] <piney_> if your looking for a vpn, don't overlook tinc. cool little vpn server/client
[5:31] <xiambax-laptop> 69 dollars\
[5:32] <Torikun> ah never heard of it. I just got squid and openvpn working today piney_
[5:32] <UnaClocker> Torikun: But a netbook isn't as neat.
[5:32] <Torikun> more ueful
[5:32] <Torikun> and powerful
[5:32] <Torikun> and x86
[5:32] <UnaClocker> Yes. Not the point.
[5:32] <xiambax-laptop> i use openvpn on my router
[5:32] <UnaClocker> I have a MacBook Air.. But I had to get a lapdock, and I love it.
[5:32] <xiambax-laptop> works great
[5:33] <xiambax-laptop> vpn on my galaxy s3 to home
[5:33] <Torikun> Nice
[5:33] <Torikun> I did not know routers had openvpon
[5:33] <xiambax-laptop> custom firmare
[5:33] <xiambax-laptop> firmware
[5:33] <Torikun> ah
[5:33] <xiambax-laptop> http://code.google.com/p/rt-n56u/
[5:34] <UnaClocker> Ahh yes, I was just looking at that router earlier.. Looks nice.
[5:34] <xiambax-laptop> i love mine
[5:34] <xiambax-laptop> super fast
[5:42] <Torikun> Wow, feels good not having any pirated sofware instlaled on the mac
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[5:46] <UnaClocker> hehe, my whole Mac is pirated.. Hackintosh.. ;)
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[5:50] <xiambax-laptop> meh, i dont feel bad about it
[5:51] <xiambax-laptop> corporations #$@# us daily.
[5:51] <xiambax-laptop> Pirate away
[5:53] <UnaClocker> No doubt.. They're bigger than Exxon, and they make all their money off App sales nowadays anyways.
[5:53] <xiambax-laptop> other peoples work
[5:54] <xiambax-laptop> and apple paid money for peoples time to make that work
[5:54] <xiambax-laptop> Apple isnt anything revolutionary. Its their staff.
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[5:54] <xiambax-laptop> plus apple stock is over inflated. it will fall.
[5:54] <xiambax-laptop> more then it has.
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[5:55] <xiambax-laptop> i lost 5 dollars a share on bb last week, it was painful but i knew it was over inflated.
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[6:01] <xiambax-laptop> the luge world series just ended or its the beginning of pride week.
[6:01] <xiambax-laptop> i cant tell
[6:02] <xiambax-laptop> this town is weird
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[6:47] <ParkerR> Woo compiling bitlbee
[6:47] <xiambax-laptop> Wooohoooo
[6:47] <ParkerR> Only had 3.0.5 in thhe repos
[6:47] <crazygeorge> xiambax-laptop: are you in whistler?
[6:47] <ParkerR> Building 3.2 for twitter streaming
[6:47] <ParkerR> ONly updated every minute before
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[6:49] <xiambax-laptop> Yup.
[6:49] <ParkerR> Whistler?
[6:49] <xiambax-laptop> Yup
[6:49] <xiambax-laptop> Whistler, BC
[6:50] <ParkerR> Oh
[6:50] <ParkerR> Location
[6:50] <ParkerR> Heh
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[6:52] <SwK> anyone know of any good C examples for using i2c?
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[6:54] <ShiftPlusOne> gordonDrogon, 404 https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/examples/
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[6:54] <SwK> shiftplusone: thanks
[6:54] <ShiftPlusOne> SwK, don't thank me, that's a broken link
[6:55] <ShiftPlusOne> though you should find everything you need on gordo's site
[6:55] <SwK> the pointer in the right direction is good
[6:56] <xiambax-laptop> lol wedding ring commercials. I wish i could fast forward that commercial and see them in 10 years. biter and hating eachother.
[6:56] <ShiftPlusOne> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/i2c-library/
[6:56] <UnaClocker> xiambax-laptop: hehe, happy valentines day??? ;)
[6:56] <UnaClocker> Well, almost..
[6:57] <xiambax-laptop> oh yeah, thats soon. dammit.
[6:57] <xiambax-laptop> Im gonna die alone.
[6:57] <xiambax-laptop> Alone, happy and rich.
[6:57] <UnaClocker> Meh, nobody gets rich gambling.
[6:57] <xiambax-laptop> gambling? You mean the market?
[6:57] * UnaClocker nods.
[6:58] <xiambax-laptop> Naw, I was up until the other day.
[6:58] <xiambax-laptop> Its educated risk.
[6:58] <Heckles> Some poker players are rich... although I suspect there's an awful lot more that are poor ;)
[6:58] <UnaClocker> hehe..
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[6:59] <xiambax-laptop> You won't find anyone successful in this world who at one point didn't take risks.
[7:00] <Heckles> That's a pretty good point
[7:01] <ParkerR> So, after I get this couple of cables I will have a fully functional Pi laptop
[7:01] <ParkerR> Will finally be able to ditch the external keybiard
[7:02] <UnaClocker> ParkerR!
[7:02] <UnaClocker> Did you see my mod?
[7:02] <SwK> shiftplusone: have you played with gordo's i2c stuff?
[7:02] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, :D Whats up? And no
[7:02] <ShiftPlusOne> SwK, nope
[7:02] <UnaClocker> I increased the battery life on my Lapdock/Pi combo from 5 hours to 8 1/2...
[7:02] <ShiftPlusOne> xiambax-laptop, also known as "you've got to be in it to win it" gambling addict mentality =P
[7:03] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Oooh whatd do
[7:03] <UnaClocker> ParkerR: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1EihTxIdnQ
[7:03] <ParkerR> Also I ordered these http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007RFRHIY
[7:03] * cccy_RegeaneWolf is now known as cccyRegeaneWolfe
[7:03] <Heckles> Well Euromillions I was in it.... I didn't win it :(
[7:03] <UnaClocker> Cool, hope they do the trick for ya.
[7:04] <UnaClocker> Awefully expensive.
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[7:04] <xiambax-laptop> Worked my ass off for the past 6 months and saved 10,000 and put it all in rim.
[7:05] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Yeah paypal still doesnt want to verify me
[7:05] <xiambax-laptop> We will see how the markets go over the next year.
[7:05] <ParkerR> So had to go the amazon route
[7:05] <Heckles> RIM as in Blackberry ?
[7:05] <SwK> UnaClocker: how big (in mAh or Ah) is that battery you are using?
[7:05] <xiambax-laptop> ya
[7:05] <UnaClocker> SwK: I don't know.
[7:05] <Heckles> Ouch... That's a risk surely :(
[7:05] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, The inflation was slightly compensated by free two day shipping
[7:05] <Heckles> Unless they have something up their sleeve
[7:05] <UnaClocker> Ahh yeah, gotta love the free 2 day shipping on Amazon.
[7:06] <SwK> I hate amazon
[7:06] <SwK> they have a line straight to my wallet
[7:06] <UnaClocker> Amazon is a local company for me.. ;)
[7:06] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Free year of Prime because in college
[7:06] <SwK> and they tend to abuse it :P
[7:06] <UnaClocker> ParkerR: Nice..
[7:06] <SwK> (or is that I tend to abuse it heh)
[7:07] <xiambax-laptop> lol Seattle police just installed 30 cameras along the water front and are claiming its to protect against terrorism.
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[7:08] <UnaClocker> Seattle police are soooo corrupt.
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[7:09] <UnaClocker> ParkerR: Did ya see my video? :)
[7:09] <xiambax-laptop> Ive never been to america but i deal with american tourists all the time and i dunno if i want to go there
[7:09] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Watching
[7:09] <UnaClocker> :)
[7:09] <ParkerR> Hot air reflow atm
[7:09] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Didnt know you could remove that and still have one USB port
[7:09] <UnaClocker> Yup, it's a USB hub..
[7:10] <ParkerR> Wait
[7:10] <UnaClocker> After I saw the pics of the model A and realized it was the same board...
[7:10] <ParkerR> So its a hub hooked into the first line?
[7:10] <ParkerR> Wow
[7:10] <UnaClocker> Yup.. And they simply have jumpers that get installed on Model A's..
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[7:12] <ParkerR> Wow 200
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[7:12] <ParkerR> Nice
[7:12] <UnaClocker> Yeah.. Crazy that that chip draws more than the rest of the board combined..
[7:12] <ParkerR> So a 500mAh drop
[7:13] <ParkerR> More than that
[7:13] <UnaClocker> No, it was 320 before, 120 after.. That's 200..
[7:13] <ParkerR> Oh yeah
[7:13] <ParkerR> I was thinking of the full 700
[7:14] <UnaClocker> Yeah, full 700 is to cover the load of a heavy keyboard/mouse and such..
[7:14] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Good job. Not sacrificing the UK board :D
[7:14] <UnaClocker> hehe, yeah.. :)
[7:15] <xiambax-laptop> http://www.goalzero.com/shop/c/1/ <--- UnaClocker
[7:15] <UnaClocker> I was really expecting to see nearly 700ma draw when I did the before test.. When I got 320 I almost scrapped the idea.. Was way lower than I ever imagined.
[7:16] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Zooming in on a blurry image with a shaky camera
[7:16] <ParkerR> Goof job
[7:16] <UnaClocker> xiambax-laptop: heh, I can get a 45watt solar panel at Harbor Freight for like $150..
[7:17] <UnaClocker> heh..
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[7:17] <UnaClocker> I need to get my 3D printer working so I can print a tripod adapter for my iPhone.. Then it won't be shaky..
[7:18] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Wow
[7:18] <xiambax-laptop> Whats the best hd camera i can use with my pi?
[7:18] <ParkerR> Detailed stuff
[7:18] <ParkerR> And smart too :D
[7:18] <UnaClocker> :)
[7:18] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, I love stuff like that. Finding out why it isnt working
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[7:18] <UnaClocker> Yeah, me too..
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[7:21] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Wait after all that you just had to solder in a resistor?
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[7:21] <UnaClocker> Pair of 0 ohm "resistors".. aka jumper wires.. Yeah, But the chip has to be removed..
[7:21] <ParkerR> Yeah
[7:22] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, I just found it funny you got all ready to solder some jumpers on the top only to find that out
[7:22] <ParkerR> Might do that
[7:22] <UnaClocker> What's sad is I have another 10 minutes of video of me soldering on jumper wires to the pads where the chip used to be.. Trying to make that work, before I finally dug up the Pi schematics and found the trick..
[7:23] <ShiftPlusOne> heh
[7:23] <ParkerR> Hahaha
[7:23] <ParkerR> Quickedits
[7:23] <ParkerR> Gotta love em
[7:23] <UnaClocker> hehe.. Yeah..
[7:24] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Oh also about the cables I ordered. Nice to the the HDMI extender too. Will be able to hook the Apple TV up to the dock now :D
[7:24] <UnaClocker> hehe, yeah.. :)
[7:24] <ParkerR> Same HDMI adapter as you too
[7:24] <ParkerR> Ove that thind
[7:24] <ParkerR> *thing
[7:25] <UnaClocker> Yeah, it's nice having the Pi just attached so I can walk around with the thing and not have it flopping around..
[7:26] <UnaClocker> I keep thinking about taking the lapdock to work.. Definitely get some funny looks in the break room.. ;)
[7:26] <Torikun> yo
[7:26] <ParkerR> A wild Torikun appears :D
[7:26] <Torikun> lol
[7:26] * ParkerR uses tail whip
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[7:27] <UnaClocker> ParkerR: Did you catch the announcement about the Red Pis today?
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[7:27] <xiambax-laptop> what other boards are people using
[7:27] <xiambax-laptop> i just discovered these apc boards, they seem rad
[7:27] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Nope
[7:27] <ParkerR> xiambax-laptop, The Pi is the only board for me
[7:27] <ParkerR> :P
[7:27] <UnaClocker> ParkerR: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3195
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[7:27] <UnaClocker> I'm totally going to get one. ;)
[7:27] <xiambax-laptop> the apc board is 15 dollars more and have 4 usb ports and dsub
[7:28] <UnaClocker> The apc board is vaporware.
[7:28] <ParkerR> Neat
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[7:30] <SwK> speaking of newer boards heh on the rev2's anyone know what the large copper pads flanking P2 (above and below) are for?
[7:31] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, I love that power consumption mod
[7:32] <ParkerR> Its just :O
[7:32] <UnaClocker> hehe, yeah, I'm still blown away by the results.. 120ma is really low..
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[7:32] <UnaClocker> And 8 1/2 hours of battery life.. Actually went 8 hours 40 minutes before it shut itself off..
[7:32] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, What was the mAh while running in the dock?
[7:33] <UnaClocker> I think it's about the same, but I don't have a chopped up USB cable to really check.
[7:33] <ParkerR> Ahh
[7:34] <UnaClocker> ParkerR: I found this post right after I finished my video.. heh.. figures.. But it matched my findings to a T.. http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=164893
[7:35] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Kinda wish there was a way to get more detailed battery info. Having a 20% is weird
[7:35] <ParkerR> *20% range
[7:35] <axisys> how do I make the usb wifi led solid instead of blinking?
[7:35] <UnaClocker> Eh, 20% is good enough for me.. And the battery light starts to throb red under 10%.. Seems to be solid red under 3%..
[7:36] <UnaClocker> axisys: Soldering iron? :)
[7:36] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Oh neat. Never seen it go that low so didnt know that
[7:36] <ParkerR> axion, Remove the led completely. Less power used :P
[7:36] <UnaClocker> Ahh yeah, I've done several drop dead battery life tests.. ;)
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[7:37] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Also hate how dim the battery light is
[7:37] <ParkerR> Hard to see when out in the day
[7:37] <UnaClocker> Yeah, that is kinda annoying.. Could barely get it on camera..
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[7:37] <ParkerR> But for $40 I cant complain
[7:38] <ParkerR> :)
[7:38] <axisys> UnaClocker: :-)
[7:38] <ParkerR> Well I can
[7:38] <ParkerR> But its useless
[7:38] <UnaClocker> I took the lapdock partially apart trying to find the switch that cuts power for a second when the screen shuts.. Didn't get deep enough to find it though..
[7:38] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Doesnt just cut power for a sec :P
[7:38] <ParkerR> Cuts it completely
[7:39] <UnaClocker> When I shut my lid, the pi turns off for 1 second, then it turns back on, with the lid shut. Does it again when I open it.
[7:39] <ParkerR> Umm
[7:39] <ParkerR> Mine pwers off comepletely
[7:39] <ParkerR> Wait I am powering from one of the docks USB ports
[7:39] <ParkerR> That might be it
[7:39] <UnaClocker> heh, weird.. I even read about someone using a supercap to get around the problem.
[7:40] <UnaClocker> Ahh..
[7:40] <Torikun> http://imgur.com/AQT3285
[7:40] <UnaClocker> I don't like the idea of using a supercap, as they'll draw obscene amounts of current to charge initially.
[7:40] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Damn you and your trailing periods. Keep thinking you are wanting to say something more
[7:40] <UnaClocker> hehe, bah habbit.
[7:40] <UnaClocker> bad even
[7:41] <UnaClocker> Torikun: Mmm, can you say lawsuit? ;)
[7:41] <Torikun> lol
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[7:47] <xiambax-laptop> Ah i see the issue with APC board
[7:47] <xiambax-laptop> shitty community
[7:47] <xiambax-laptop> no involvement on VIA's behalf.
[7:49] <UnaClocker> There's also the Intel NUC.. Though you'd have a hard time lugging that around with a lapdock.. And it's crazy expensive..
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[7:51] <UnaClocker> Oh yeah, and it'd gobble down the lapdock's battery like nobody's business.
[7:51] * UnaClocker ponders that strange figure of speech.
[7:53] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, I always get antzy when any battery I have gets reported as about 50%
[7:53] <ParkerR> Like I know itll be fine but
[7:54] <UnaClocker> heh, I always run mine into the ground.. I'm usually running for the outlet by the time my MacBookAir gets down to 3%..
[7:57] <UnaClocker> Besides, on these kinds of battery life tests, I can't be accurate if I don't go from a full charge right off the charger to a known point, which is really only completely dead in this case.. ;)
[7:58] <ParkerR> Hahaaha "ERROR :Warning: BitlBee is running with root privileges. Why?"
[7:58] <UnaClocker> I'd love to dig into this thing far enough to get to the battery pack.. I'm curious what the full system current draw is, if turning the trackpad off makes any difference, and how much the LCD backlight brightness changes current draw..
[7:59] <xiambax-laptop> pack on what?
[7:59] <UnaClocker> Battery pack inside the lapdock.
[8:00] <UnaClocker> It's easier to get to the battery in my MacBook Air than this thing.
[8:00] <UnaClocker> I removed the screws and it still wouldn't come apart.
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[8:10] <UnaClocker> Err, found a teardown video.. Definitely not possible to splice into that battery cable.
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[9:04] <xiambax-laptop> http://forum.apc.io/ <--- painful reading material
[9:04] <xiambax-laptop> either they pissed a lot of people off, or their product sucks. i cant tell
[9:05] <ParkerR> Ouch
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[9:25] <plugwash> mike and I tried to work to get raspbian on the apc (and it does run) but without via caring it's limited in what we can do
[9:26] <plugwash> the apc seems to be reasonable hardware saddled with terrible software support, sadly a common story in the arm linux world
[9:26] <plugwash> where software support seems to range between mediocre and terrible
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[9:26] <Gr33n3gg> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813177001 lol at the first review
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[9:28] <plugwash> interestingly they did care enough to send us free APCs but apparently not enough to release full kernel source
[9:28] <plugwash> :(
[9:29] <Gordio> ARMv6? -> DIE!
[9:29] <Zitter> do you think it can work wit raspberry? http://www.adafruit.com/products/751
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[9:31] <plugwash> I basically lost inerest in the APC when the 512M Pi was released
[9:31] <plugwash> since the extra ram was about the only real advantage I saw in it
[9:31] <xiambax-laptop> plugwash, yeah im about to post to their forum
[9:31] <fiftyonefifty> Hope this doesn't sound like a dumb question: If you cluster RPi's, does it give you more than one HDMI out?
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[9:39] <ParkerR> fiftyonefifty, Umm
[9:39] <ParkerR> They all have their own HDMI output
[9:40] <ParkerR> Clustering usually involves programs running in the Pi and network communication
[9:40] <ParkerR> s/in/on/
[9:40] <ParkerR> HDMI isn't even needed in that case
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[9:46] <xiambax-laptop> http://forum.apc.io/discussion/295/i-need-to-be-sold-#Item_1 that might wake someone up at VIA
[9:47] <xiambax-laptop> fiftyonefive, you want to setup a miltidisplay unit?
[9:48] <mjr> I suppose you could synchronise several pis over the network to display something on more than one hdmi display if you like
[9:49] <xiambax-laptop> ive seen it done before
[9:49] <xiambax-laptop> keeping things in sync is hard though but i have seen it done
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[9:52] <_yac_> wow happy i read about apc, i'm known to have a real light trigger finger when it comes to sbc's
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[9:55] <xiambax-laptop> ya i already had it in my cart
[9:55] <xiambax-laptop> then i went to the forums
[9:56] <xiambax-laptop> yikes
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[9:58] <_yac_> someone should make a firefox plugin
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[9:58] <_yac_> whenever you add something to a cart, it does an background check in the background. you could call it "Are you sure you want to do this, bro?"
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[10:08] <gordonDrogon> ShiftPlusOne, thanks - (broken link) That page was moved some time back, but I've fixed the one link to it (that I know about!)
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[10:10] <ShiftPlusOne> yup, works now
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[10:43] <ryzen2010> i am not one with by RPi
[10:43] <ryzen2010> i am now one with my RPi
[10:44] <ParkerR> Haha
[10:44] <ParkerR> How so?
[10:45] <|Jeroen|> integrated it into his brain i guess
[10:45] <ryzen2010> just a fun device , dont know why
[10:45] <ryzen2010> lol
[10:45] <wakoinc> or he is a RPi with AI talking in 3rd person
[10:46] <ryzen2010> i set it up for asic bit coin minning
[10:46] <wakoinc> hows that going for you?
[10:47] <ryzen2010> not started yet
[10:47] <ryzen2010> waiting for my ASIC rig
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[10:51] <ParkerR> Oh my
[10:51] <ParkerR> Berryboot is quite amazing
[10:52] <wakoinc> is it ok for use with a 4GB card? or need more space..
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[10:53] <ParkerR> wakoinc, I allows you to use a USB flash drive/hard drive for stuff
[10:53] <ParkerR> Your SD card could be 256mb
[10:53] <ParkerR> If you have external storage to use with it
[10:53] <wakoinc> very nice, I haven't got around to playing with it
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[10:55] <wakoinc> does anyone have a solid understanding of GPIO pins? I have a few questions
[10:56] <ryzen2010> ask me a question and i will google it for u
[10:56] <ParkerR> Haha
[10:58] <wakoinc> I don't trust google a whole lot about anything technical
[10:58] <gordonDrogon> wakoinc, I mostly do...
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[10:59] <gordonDrogon> wakoinc, what do you want to know?
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[11:02] <wakoinc> gordonDrogon: well, I was wondering why most guides/tuts use the same GPIO pins
[11:03] <gordonDrogon> wakoinc, because there are very few pins to choose from...
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[11:03] <ParkerR> Puppy seems to be running quite nicely so far
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[11:04] <wakoinc> well, I was hoping to hook up a number of sensors to monitor the environment (temp/humidity/CO2/etc)
[11:05] <gordonDrogon> wakoinc, you have 8 general purpose pins - then there are ones dedicated to I2C and SPI and serial - which can be re-provisioned for general purpose if needed.
[11:05] <gordonDrogon> wakoinc, no issues there - many people are doing just that.
[11:05] <gordonDrogon> huge choice of sensors - I2C, SPI or any other digital ones that you can bit-bang the protocol.
[11:06] <wakoinc> i'm best to stick to digital sensors, because it doesn't support analogue sensors without a converter?
[11:06] <gordonDrogon> that's right.
[11:06] <gordonDrogon> although various A/D converters aren't too hard to use via I2C or SPI.
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[11:07] <wakoinc> ok, thanks
[11:08] <OpenSys> Hello gordonDrogon
[11:08] <gordonDrogon> hi
[11:09] <OpenSys> the wiringpi.digitalRead() only reads 1 e 0 positions ?
[11:09] <gordonDrogon> wakoinc, I've put toether some libraries to help use the GPIO - mostly from C though, although there are some wrappers for Python, php, etc. https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/
[11:09] <gordonDrogon> OpenSys, 1e0 ?
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[11:10] <OpenSys> gordonDrogon, i explain
[11:10] <gordonDrogon> ok
[11:10] <wakoinc> cool, i've seen that project - I prefer working in Ruby
[11:10] <gordonDrogon> although if that's python, I didn't write the python wrappers and don't really know much about pythnon...
[11:10] <OpenSys> i send bits from 433mhz radio tx to a rx
[11:10] <gordonDrogon> ok
[11:10] <OpenSys> but only get 1 and 0
[11:11] <gordonDrogon> is the radio connected to the Pi's serial port?
[11:11] <biberao> hi
[11:11] <OpenSys> gordonDrogon, nop, its a GPIO pin
[11:11] <wakoinc> there is a pi_piper ruby gem that looks nice
[11:12] <gordonDrogon> OpenSys, then that's what you'd expect. the pins just read whatever is on them.
[11:12] <wakoinc> https://github.com/jwhitehorn/pi_piper
[11:12] <TopGear> Hi people. I?m thinking of getting myself a RPi. In my basket there?s the RPi itself (d?h, I know. Type B, rev 2.0), an enclosure, some rather cheap HDMI cable, a power supply, a wireless stick for faster internet and a 16 gig SDHC card. I thought of using it to stream video to the TV and to download stuff. Now, I know it?s only a 700mhz CPU and I guess it won?t be able to extract big files qui
[11:12] <TopGear> ckly. But I wonder will it be able to extract them at all? The dissipation could be quite big and I don?t know if something like a RPi will be able to handle that often w/o extra pieces to cool it.
[11:12] <OpenSys> gordonDrogon, so its correct only 1 e 0, to get data i must connect to RX serial port right ?
[11:12] <gordonDrogon> wakoinc, I know nthing about ruby either. but I think https://github.com/wiringPi has some ruby wrappers in it.
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[11:13] <gordonDrogon> OpenSys, yes - if you're using a serial port to drive the tx side, then you really should feed it into the serial in on the Pi.
[11:13] <_yac_> TopGear: well, know that there are some issues surrounding frame buffer and USB in general. don't expect 100% quirk-free experience. maybe best to check someone else's projects out and make sure you are ok with it
[11:13] <gordonDrogon> TopGear, you do not need cooling for a Pi.
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[11:14] <wakoinc> gordonDrogon: what is the key difference between normal GPIO and Serial? any reason to use one over the other?
[11:15] <aXen> Anyone installed psutil for python here?
[11:15] <TopGear> _yac_, Thank you, I?ll dig some further in the depths of the interwebs.
[11:15] <gordonDrogon> wakoinc, use a serial pin if you need serial (rs232) data.
[11:15] <OpenSys> gordonDrogon, so if tx also sending from GPIO pin also set 1 and 0 on port ?
[11:15] <aXen> easy_install downloaded the package, but now im supposed to install it I think
[11:15] <OpenSys> must need serial port to send data
[11:15] <gordonDrogon> OpenSys, if you're not using the uarts then you need to invent your own protocol...
[11:16] <wakoinc> so serial for data and gpio for binary?
[11:16] <OpenSys> gordonDrogon, ummmm so ex 1010 = A 1111= B like this yes ?
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[11:16] <gordonDrogon> wakoinc, all gpio pins can be used for simple input and output, but only some of them have additional special features - like rs232 serial, I2C and SPI...
[11:16] <wakoinc> yep, ok.. thanks
[11:17] <TopGear> gordonDrogon, One gets so used to cooling hardware, but I guess the RPi will indeed need no cooling. By the way, SSH-ing into the RPi and displaying the CL/GUI on another screen won?t be that hard, will it?
[11:17] <gordonDrogon> OpenSys, I meant more like the low-level way to get bits from one end to another. It would be much easier to just connect one side to a uart Tx and the other side to the uart Rx - assuming the radio link supports it.
[11:17] <hsp> which videodriver use PI under linux Arch/Raspbian?
[11:18] <gordonDrogon> TopGear, it's just a low-power linux box - ssh does what you expect it to do.
[11:18] <TopGear> Exactly what I suspected it to be. And it may be low-power, but it still is more powerfull than one of my laptops. Can?t handle 1080P...
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[11:19] <_yac_> TopGear: the Rpi is a great embedded linux platform, that's powerful enough to double as a streamer or light desktop in a pinch. but if what you're really after is more of a thin client, and less of a diy solution, there's better options out ther
[11:20] <TopGear> _yac_, Well, it?s not only for downloading. Also for streaming stuff to the TV and most of all getting to know more of Linux and its roots.
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[11:21] <gordonDrogon> TopGear, yup - that's what it's for.
[11:22] <gordonDrogon> well one of the things it's for :)
[11:22] <wakoinc> gordonDrogon: Do you know the best way to implement dimming? eg. dim a light. I have seen someone use a little motor, but isn't really what I am after
[11:22] <gordonDrogon> hsp, raspbian is already setup for you, but it's the basic framebuffer driver IIRC.
[11:23] <gordonDrogon> wakoinc, there is one hardware PWM pin abalable on the Pi - you can use that, or you can implement PWM in software - which I have done, then you can use any of the Pins.
[11:23] <wakoinc> ok, great
[11:24] <gordonDrogon> wakoinc, a bigger issue is intefacing to the light - The Pi's GPIO pins are 3.3v only, but if you have that in-hand then it's relatively easy.
[11:24] <hsp> gordonDrogon, you mean fbdev?
[11:24] <gordonDrogon> wakoinc, well - with LEDs and incandescant lights anyway - fluorescent is trickier..
[11:24] <OpenSys> gordonDrogon, i will test it thanks
[11:24] <wakoinc> hmm, yep. ok
[11:25] <gordonDrogon> hsp, yes, I think so - the Pi's X server just uses the basic framebuffer - there is no special hardware acelleration, etc.
[11:25] <hsp> thx
[11:26] <gordonDrogon> hsp, but raspbianwill work out of the box. I've no idea about Arch. Don't use it.
[11:26] <Zarek_> arch you have to install Xorg yourself, and use the xf86-video-fbdev output driver
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[11:28] <Zarek_> `pacman -S xorg-server xorg-utils xorg-server-utils xf86-video-fbdev` will do that
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[11:28] <Zarek_> and then install a window manager, write your ~/.Xinitrc, and type `startx` :P
[11:28] <SanMysterious> Hi! Has anyone gotten rid of these horrible noise when connecting a USB X-Fi Soundcard to the pi?
[11:29] <hsp> Zarek_, already done
[11:29] <Zarek_> hsp, cool :3
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[11:32] <hsp> Zarek_, I wanted to know what is
[11:33] <dape> meh,sucks, edimax EW-7811UN won't let my Pis boot while using ethernet too, i guess too much power draws down
[11:34] <gordonDrogon> probably.
[11:35] <gordonDrogon> powered hub...
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[11:37] <dape> :(
[11:37] <dape> ah, let me try without ethernet in a few
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[11:39] <gordonDrogon> ethernet doesn't use any additional power - I was under the impression that that was a wi-fi adapter?
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[11:57] <ryanteck> Good Morning
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[12:01] <hellsing> mjr, you meen powering the pi through the usb A port and not the mini usb port?
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[12:10] <mjr> hellsing, yeah
[12:10] <hellsing> so you bypass every protection, not sure its a good idea
[12:11] <hellsing> if you want a lot of power you can remove the polyswitch
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[12:21] <gordonDrogon> mjr, what you can do is power the pi from the same hub.
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> mjr, so 2 leads from the hub to the Pi - one the usual "uplink lead" and one from a usb port on the hub to the micro usb power on the Pi.
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> I've been doing that for some time - although on a rev 1 Pi with polyfuses.
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[12:23] <mjr> yeah I know, but apparently the leakage is common in cheap hubs and obviates the need for the second cable
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[12:26] <gordonDrogon> you need the 2nd cable if you have polyfuses (ie. a Rev 1 Pi)
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[12:27] <mjr> indeed
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[12:28] <mjr> I did neglect to specify that
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[12:54] <pronto> http://raspberry.bagels.xxx/templog.php wewt the the graph is working , also wow, a case sure does cause the temp to go up
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[13:20] <dape> right, edimax EW-7811Un seems crap, tp-link wn723n with same chipset works great
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[13:27] <gordonDrogon> pronto, it's the scale of your graph that's misleading, leading to your (over) reaction in temperature. Look at the numbers - it's only risen from an early average of 32 to a peak of 38. That's nothing. If the graph scale were 0 to 100C you've barely notice that.
[13:27] <gordonDrogon> it's easy to make stats misleading by fiddling with the scales. You need prespective...
[13:28] <gordonDrogon> and I need coffee :)
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[13:31] <isasha> Herro
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[13:31] <isasha> I have a bit of an issue with my raspi
[13:31] <rymate1234> cool.
[13:31] <rymate1234> what is it?
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[13:31] <isasha> I initiated a ftp transfer over VNC, and now I can't see the progress
[13:32] <isasha> oh and I also terminated the vnc server to have more resources
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[13:32] <isasha> and now when I connect my raspi to my screen over hdmi, nothing is happening
[13:32] <isasha> only access I have is over ssh
[13:33] <rymate1234> did you boot the pi woth the screen on?
[13:33] <isasha> nop
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[13:34] <isasha> starts didn't help much either
[13:34] <isasha> *startx
[13:34] <rymate1234> reboot the pi with the screen on
[13:34] <isasha> Yeah but that's the thing.
[13:34] <isasha> If I reboot, I will screw up the FTP transfer of 43gb
[13:35] <rymate1234> looks likemyoure stucknwothoutna screen
[13:35] <rymate1234> ifmyou boot it without a screen
[13:36] <rymate1234> it turns off all vosualmoutputs
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[13:36] <rymate1234> until you boot it again
[13:36] <rymate1234> excuse mymtyping, on an ipad mini
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[13:37] <isasha> sorry, you were saying?
[13:37] <isasha> can't I turn it on manually?
[13:37] <rymate1234> not that i know
[13:38] <gordonDrogon> mode FTP servers allow you to re-try and carry on where you left off.
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[13:43] <isasha> meh too much effort
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[14:01] <Encrypt> Has anyone tried installing Owncloud with Nginx here ?
[14:01] <Encrypt> I'd like to know what are the performances of the Pi while Owncloud running...
[14:02] <Encrypt> Since I actually use it as a printer server, file sync with unison and web server...
[14:02] <Encrypt> I don't want to overload it :?
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[14:03] <BCMM> Encrypt: i have not, but bear in mind that that NIC and any USB storage are sharing a single USB's bandwidth
[14:03] <Encrypt> Yes
[14:03] <Encrypt> My access to owncloud will rather be occasional...
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[14:04] <Encrypt> But I wanted to know whether somebody had installed it here...
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[14:09] <Encrypt> Can you run both owncloud and a website on Nginx ?
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[14:10] <Encrypt> I imagine it is possible...
[14:11] <gordonDrogon> it's just another Linux box at the end of the day,
[14:11] <gordonDrogon> however there are some limitations in the hardware.
[14:12] <gordonDrogon> the USB is the crux of the IO system - and the drivers are still not perfect.
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[14:24] <Zencrypter> gordonDrogon, , Ok :)
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[14:27] <nid0> Zencrypter: The pi handles Owncloud fine
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[14:28] <Zencrypter> nid0, What about having both a website and owncloud running on Nginx ?
[14:28] <Zencrypter> And how o you access to owncloud ? :)
[14:29] <Zencrypter> I could read that you've to enter http://ipadress/owncloud
[14:29] <Zencrypter> Is that right ?
[14:30] <nid0> once its setup, yeah basically. running a site as well depends entirely on what content's on it and how regularly its accessed
[14:31] <nid0> if its a static site fine, if its complex php then 1) you dont want it to be particularly busy and 2) may as well use apache
[14:31] <Zencrypter> No, it's just static content
[14:31] <Zencrypter> Nothing complex :?
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[14:32] <Aygon> Hi
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[14:32] <Zencrypter> nid0, If you just don't use Owncloud, does it use the CPU that much ?
[14:32] <Zencrypter> Aygon, Hi :)
[14:33] <Aygon> I recently set up my RaspberryPi with Raspbian, and updated it using aptitude update; aptitude upgrade
[14:34] <Aygon> and now, when i restart my pi, i got an error saying Error while reading over extent tree in inode 13297: Corrupt extent header
[14:34] <nid0> Zencrypter: depends how its setup - ampache will be taking up a bit of memory for example if you have that installed/enabled, but in terms of actual cpu usage no if you arent actually accessing anything hosted on the owncloud install, its negligible
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[14:38] <Aygon> I have been using wiringpi lately to play around with the GPIO, but i haven't connected any hardware yet.
[14:39] <Kisume> Just ordered a WiFi dongle. Sitecom.
[14:39] <Kisume> Hope it will work in Arch.
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[14:40] <armin> hi, my pi syslog gets spammed with lines like this one: "Dec 12 08:05:24 himbeere kernel: [242548.805361] delay: estimated 0, actual 133" up to a point where my / runs full. any help on this?
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[14:43] <gordonDrogon> Aygon, sounds like you might have had some SD card corruption, or a power-off withhout shutdown?
[14:43] <gordonDrogon> Aygon, if it's working OK now, I'd not worry too much, but I'd also check the turbo/overclocking options and turn them off...
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[14:45] <john_f> armin: audio problem? try modprobe snd-usb-audio nrpacks=1 if you have usb audio.
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[14:45] <Aygon> gordonDrogon: SD card corruption was my first guess, but after formatting the SD card and installing Raspbian again, everything booted fine. But after updating the software the same problem occurred.
[14:45] <armin> john_f: ah, just found something that suggests this, too. thank you.
[14:45] <armin> john_f: and yes, usb soundcard.
[14:46] <gordonDrogon> Aygon, turn off any overclocking. it if happens every time you reboot there may be other issues.
[14:48] <Aygon> gordonDrogon: is overclocking on by default? and how can i turn that off?
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> Aygon, and just make sure you use the sudo halt command rather than pull the plug...
[14:48] <gordonDrogon> Aygon, it shouldn't be on by default, but you can use sudo raspi-config to check, or edit /boot/config.txt
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[14:54] <Aygon> gordonDrogon: as far as i can tell from the values from http://elinux.org/RPiconfig , it's turned off at the moment.
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[14:58] <gordonDrogon> ok.
[14:58] <gordonDrogon> well just reboot a few times and see if you keep getting the message...
[14:59] <gordonDrogon> and do say if you're just pulling the plug or running the halt command.. (or init 0/shutdown etc.)
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[15:06] <Aygon> gordonDrogon: i usually use shutdown -h, but since the pi does not boot correctly, i cant connect to it using ssh, so i might just pulled the plug a few times.
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[15:07] <gordonDrogon> well who knows. it could be anything. I'd check the logs - see if you continually get SD card errors when in-use when it's booted normally. maybe you have a bad power supply (the cause of lots of problems), or an unsupported SD card - really hard to tell. You may have to experiment- e.g. as I suggested - reboot it a few times and see if the errors continue at every boot and so on.
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[15:10] <deuxenun> hello
[15:11] <deuxenun> has someone already tried to compile Sage on Rpi ?
[15:11] <Zencrypter> Nope
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[15:12] <Hodapp> I have.
[15:12] <Hodapp> SAGE is one monstrous build process.
[15:13] <Hodapp> wait, this was not on an RPi, it was on an MK802
[15:13] <Hodapp> do be aware though, SAGE expects to download and build its own version of GCC in the process
[15:14] <gordonDrogon> SAGE? As in the accounting package? It's not open source that I'm aware of..
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[15:15] <gordonDrogon> or is there another sage?
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[15:15] <Hodapp> gordonDrogon: Different SAGE.
[15:15] <gordonDrogon> phew!
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[15:15] <Hodapp> gordonDrogon: It's for mathematics. It somehow ties together R, Python & SciPy/NumPy/matplotlib, and Maxima.
[15:16] <Hodapp> gordonDrogon: It also lets you interact via notebooks from a web browser, which is quite awesome really.
[15:17] <deuxenun> yes it is awesome
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[15:17] <deuxenun> It's been compiling for 18hrs
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[15:17] <deuxenun> and still compiling
[15:18] <KameSense> hello, sometimes my router freezes and the Pi / raspbian looses completely the network, even after doing a ifconfig eth0 down then ifconfig eth0 up
[15:18] <Hodapp> deuxenun: What do you use SAGE for?
[15:18] <|Jeroen|> buy a new router
[15:18] <gordonDrogon> buy a new router.
[15:18] <KameSense> the only solution is to reboot and I'd love to avoid that
[15:18] <deuxenun> Hodapp: for statistics & algebra
[15:18] <KameSense> i can't
[15:18] <deuxenun> Hodapp: and for fun !
[15:18] <KameSense> and that's no solution to me
[15:19] <KameSense> there's a problem with the Pi or raspbian
[15:19] <gordonDrogon> well upgrade it if it needs upgrading, check the cabling, etc. and maybe use a static IP address?
[15:19] <KameSense> yes, static IP address
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[15:19] <Hodapp> deuxenun: My office just bought a crazy server and I'm considering putting SAGE on it. We have a lot of folks who use MATLAB like crazy, but also plenty who tried Python & SciPy and rather liked them.
[15:19] <deuxenun> KameSense: maybe you are using DHCP with your router
[15:19] <KameSense> i'm already using a static IP I mean
[15:19] <KameSense> no
[15:19] <KameSense> not for the Pi
[15:20] <KameSense> is network-manager used when x11 is not used ?
[15:20] <deuxenun> Hodapp: I discovered Sage at the university, just at the same moment I discovered Matlab
[15:20] <deuxenun> Hodapp: me and my folks much prefer Sage
[15:22] <Hodapp> deuxenun: MATLAB is nice, but I feel like I bump into its clunkiness very quickly
[15:23] <deuxenun> Hodapp: yes, that's the problem with MATLAB
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[15:23] <Hodapp> deuxenun: that and it's kinda expensive
[15:24] <Hodapp> that and the MathWorks emails I get every week that basically say "Look! We added $blah-flavored frosting to MATLAB! Now MATLAB is totally better than $blah!"
[15:26] <deuxenun> quite annoying
[15:26] <Hodapp> we've had some of our engineers just drop MATLAB completely
[15:26] <Hodapp> even if the Python solution has its own issues
[15:26] <deuxenun> why did they drop MATLAB ?
[15:27] <Hodapp> just got annoyed with it, got tired of paying the license fees, knew that Octave sufficed for a lot of compatibility needs, and had seen what an utter train-wreck large MATLAB programs became
[15:29] <Hodapp> I do wonder, if you got SAGE on a Pi, how acceptably it'd run
[15:30] <Hodapp> but I guess if it *runs* and you're not doing any crazy tasks on it it should be fine
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[15:31] <Hodapp> howdy ReggieUK
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[15:43] <Davespice> oh my word, I've just seen the red pcb Pi's that are being manufactured in China
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[15:44] <Davespice> really want to get hold of one :)
[15:44] <Davespice> Anyone seen these yet? -> http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/chinapiliz.jpg
[15:46] <jcath> what's the point?
[15:46] <deuxenun> it's red
[15:46] <deuxenun> but it will only be sold in Asia
[15:47] <jcath> my raspberry pi has "made in china" on it.
[15:47] <deuxenun> because it has not been granted certifications
[15:47] <jcath> let me check the color ...
[15:47] <Joeboy> Could you not just put your pi in a red case, or get another red thing to look at?
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[15:47] <jcath> it's green pcb.
[15:48] <Joeboy> I wonder if making more weird model Bs will delay the A even further
[15:48] <ReggieUK> hi Hodapp
[15:49] <ReggieUK> Davespice, that looks more like a strawberrypi
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[15:52] <jcath> I just bought a roku's xs player, it seems that it has same soc with raspberrypi but less ram (256MB). anyone try to hack into roku's box?
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[15:52] <qasd> how is linux transferred to the raspberyy?
[15:54] <Amadiro> qasd, on an SD-card
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[15:57] <TomSlominski> hi. I've added a new script to /etc/init.d, how do I get init.d to search for scripts so that it becomes available?
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[15:59] <Davespice> ReggieUK: haha
[15:59] <jcath> link in rcx.d dir? x refer to the default runlevel in /etc/inittab
[15:59] <Amadiro> TomSlominski, rc-update.d add scriptname defaults
[15:59] <Amadiro> or something to that effect -- read the rc-update.d manpage
[16:00] <TomSlominski> rc-update.d doesn't exist, Amadiro , but the general command sounds familiar
[16:00] <Amadiro> update-rc.d
[16:00] <Davespice> I think they're making it red so its easy to identify ones that turn up in the UK, or elsewhere, that shouldn't be there
[16:00] <Davespice> despite this though, I may get one anyway :)
[16:02] <Amadiro> TomSlominski, looks like its just `update-rc.d scriptname defaults", so give that a shot. It should show up as symlink in the appropriate runlevel folders in /etc/
[16:02] <TomSlominski> Amadiro, awesome, thanks
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[16:02] <TomSlominski> Amadiro, hmm, still shows up as unrecognised service
[16:02] <Amadiro> TomSlominski, what do you mean by that
[16:02] <Amadiro> shows up where
[16:03] <TomSlominski> Amadiro, tom@raspberrypi ~/scripts/cloudprint/cloudprint $ sudo service cloudprint stop
[16:03] <TomSlominski> cloudprint: unrecognized service
[16:03] <Amadiro> TomSlominski, which distro is that?
[16:04] <TomSlominski> Amadiro, debian
[16:04] <Amadiro> tomaw, well, looks like something went wrong then (unfortunately update-rc.d isn't particularly wordy on the error messages, if it gives any at all)
[16:05] <Amadiro> check whether it has the right format, is executable and ended up in any of the rc* runlevels in /etc/
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[16:08] <TomSlominski> Amadiro, I got rid of the add because it's not mentioned in the syntax thing that comes up after the erro
[16:08] <TomSlominski> error*
[16:08] <TomSlominski> Amadiro, it's not executable, I can fix that
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[16:10] <TomSlominski> Amadiro, alright, it added. The init.d script might be a little bit faulty, but I'll work on fixing it. I'm trying to get a script off github to work on boot
[16:11] <Amadiro> TomSlominski, remember that the init scripts are run as root. You can drop privileges first if you want to.
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[16:20] <TomSlominski> Amadiro, that would probably make sense. They're absolutely not needed in this case.
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[16:21] <TomSlominski> Amadiro, anyway, I'll have a look later, thanks for your help
[16:22] <UnaClocker> So in Raspbian, in X, how do I change the screen sleep timer? My screen goes blank way too early..
[16:22] <Amadiro> You're welcome
[16:22] <Amadiro> UnaClocker, probably something like `xset s timeout ...`
[16:23] <Amadiro> although I'm not sure if it's really X doing it on the rpi... maybe poke around in the rpi tvservice
[16:23] <UnaClocker> Mmm, yeah, could be the framebuffer doing it..
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[16:24] <Amadiro> `xset s off` should disable X screen blanking entirely, so you could try if that works.
[16:25] <martk100> How do I install chromium on Archlinux? The only version available are in x86 aur repo.
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[16:26] <UnaClocker> Command not found...
[16:27] <Amadiro> UnaClocker, it's probably from x11-xserver-utils
[16:28] <UnaClocker> Ok
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[16:29] <jcath> is there a web browser on pi support hardware 2d 3d acceleration?
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[16:29] <UnaClocker> Hmm, setterm -blank 0 We'll see if that helps in X at all.
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[16:56] <UnaClocker> Dangit, my screen still blanks.
[16:57] <pronto> hah, so my Pi sits on top of my a/v reciver http://raspberry.bagels.xxx/templog.php <<
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[16:59] <Hodapp> my Pi is in a bathroom. In a hackerspace.
[16:59] <Hodapp> my other Pi is in a box not doing much now...
[17:00] <pronto> oh neat, Hodapp what hackerspace?
[17:00] <pronto> my other pi is at work
[17:01] <Hodapp> pronto: Hive13 in Cincinnati
[17:01] <_yac_> hmm you have a hackerspace inside your bathroom?
[17:01] <_yac_> or is you bathroom the hackerspace
[17:01] <Hodapp> _yac_: Hah, no :P The latter.
[17:01] <Hodapp> er, not the latter.
[17:01] <_yac_> nice :)
[17:01] <Hodapp> The hackerspace _has_ a bathroom
[17:01] <_yac_> oh
[17:01] <pronto> Hodapp: ha, i think we have some of hive13 stickers at unallocatedspace(central md)
[17:01] <_yac_> ahh makes the most sense :)
[17:01] <Hodapp> the bathroom has a window, but it's a grid of privacy glass blocks
[17:01] <flufmnstr> its a hackerspace first, bathroom....2nd
[17:02] <Hodapp> so we stuck an RGB LED in each one
[17:02] * flufmnstr yyyyeeeaaaaaahhhh
[17:02] <_yac_> i find that most things get better the more rgb leds you have
[17:03] <Hodapp> :)
[17:03] <flufmnstr> truth
[17:03] <Hodapp> this is only 56 of them
[17:03] <Hodapp> it's a 7x8 grid of glass blocks
[17:03] <flufmnstr> are the LEDs indipendant or all the same color?
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[17:04] <Hodapp> independent!
[17:04] <flufmnstr> sweet
[17:05] <Hodapp> I've driven them ~ 200 fps from the Pi
[17:05] <_yac_> sounds like what you wanna do is animate some low-res gfx on it
[17:05] <_yac_> like a rotozooming mega man character maybe
[17:05] <Hodapp> I'm already doing that (the animated graphics)
[17:05] <Hodapp> mostly algorithmic ones
[17:06] <Hodapp> for awhile I had an Android app that you could draw on the display directly with
[17:06] <Hodapp> people loved that one
[17:06] <_yac_> you could animate an icon of an envelope when you get mail :)
[17:06] <Hodapp> what someone suggested was that I get a microphone for the Pi, do some basic FFT, and have it show something like a spectrum
[17:07] <_yac_> yeah i think you could re-use existing code for most of that
[17:07] <flufmnstr> think of some interesting places to put the microphone
[17:07] <Hodapp> it's so simple to do there's really not much point in even re-using
[17:07] <Hodapp> NumPy has an FFT built in I'm sure
[17:08] <Hodapp> and I'm already using NumPy
[17:09] <pronto> ..okay that's creepy, as i'm installing numpy on my box you mentchion it here
[17:09] <flufmnstr> how are you driving the LEDs?
[17:09] <flufmnstr> like, whats inbetween the pi and leds
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[17:22] <Hopsy> how do I set a key to my AP ?
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[17:31] <sofyan> hello guys
[17:32] <sofyan> how can i uninstall usb_modeswitch?
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[17:40] <gordonDrogon> apt-get purge .... (name of package)
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[17:51] * UnaClocker is wandering through his house with his Pi Laptop, chatting in IRC... hehe, love it.
[17:51] <flufmnstr> nice
[17:52] <flufmnstr> how long is your battry life UnaClocker?
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[17:52] <UnaClocker> 8 1/2 hours after the mod I did last weekend.. ;)
[17:53] <UnaClocker> I turned my model B into a model A by removing the USB hub/ethernet chip..
[17:53] <flufmnstr> lol
[17:54] <isasha> Yo is it normal that Raspbian takes forever to turn on?
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[17:54] <gordonDrogon> isasha, yea, about 30 seconds )-:
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[17:55] <ngc0202> :)
[17:56] <isasha> well it's been going here for 10 mintues
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[17:57] <isasha> ok just restarted it now it's setting it up for first run
[17:57] <ryanteck> What class is the card?
[17:57] <ryanteck> Ahh ok xD
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[17:58] <isasha> Class 6
[17:59] <ryanteck> Guess it should be fast enough, I use a class 4
[17:59] <bge> Class 4 is the minimum afaik
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[18:00] <UnaClocker> Nah, plenty of people use Class 1's.. The guys using 2GB cards.. Usually best for a RaspBMC install tho..
[18:00] <UnaClocker> I use a class 10, it was a massive speed boost over the class 4 I had before it.
[18:00] <ryanteck> Can't afford another SD Card yet
[18:01] <ryanteck> just got an 3310 Screen and cables
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[18:03] <isasha> Usually I use a UHS-1 card
[18:03] <isasha> But right now it's in my phone :)
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[18:06] <Hopsy> how can I solve this? http://gyazo.com/94c490b9c97c8197acb2b7df5cb6392c.png?1359824736
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[18:08] <isasha> Hopsy: puu.sh
[18:08] <isasha> http://puu.sh
[18:10] <Hopsy> how long will my pictures saved there isasha
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[18:10] <wh1p> hello :)
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[18:10] <wh1p> just wandering if someone could help me with a raspi apt-get upgrade problem?
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[18:11] <Hopsy> isasha: ???
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[18:12] <isasha> For ever
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[18:12] <wh1p> just wandering if anyone could understand why i would get this whilst doing a apt-get upgrade on wheexy on my pi? http://pastebin.com/ZqEyee6C
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[18:13] <ryanteck> Did you try apt-get update before?
[18:13] <wh1p> yep
[18:13] <flowsnake> doesn't it say what the errors are...?
[18:13] <wh1p> i allways run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[18:14] <ryanteck> Not fully sure sorry
[18:14] <Hopsy> cool isasha thanks!
[18:14] <wh1p> one sec i will just gett the error messages from each package
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[18:15] <isasha> Hopsy: no porb
[18:15] <wh1p> here is a paste of the errors :)
[18:15] <wh1p> http://pastebin.com/ppfaAmWt
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[18:17] <wh1p> should i just try apt-get upgrade again and see if it decides to work this time round?
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[18:20] <isasha> Is it normal that raspbian is cutting out the sound?
[18:20] <isasha> like clipping or something?
[18:20] <Hopsy> http://puu.sh/1WnzQ
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[18:22] <wh1p> yay i cant even apt-get upgrade anymore i get this message now :( http://pastebin.com/14fAfUCr
[18:23] <gordonDrogon> UnaClocker, massive speed boost? I get 16MB/sec from the class 4's I have and 20MB/sec from the class 6's (which I understand the the max)
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[18:23] <gordonDrogon> wh1p, often means something else is running apt-get update, etc.
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[18:25] <wh1p> there we go now it should be fixinf itself :)
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[18:31] <wh1p> nope didnt work :( now im getting this :/ http://pastebin.com/Rm768vde
[18:31] <wh1p> seems to be a never ending list of locked files :/
[18:31] <UnaClocker> gordonDrogon: I don't care what the numbers are, I care how the machine works. It was a massive, ie noticeable, speed increase in usability.
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[18:35] <flowsnake> wh1p: what does 'lsof /var/cache/debconf/config.dat' output?
[18:35] <wh1p> im currently rebooting the pi
[18:35] <flowsnake> ok
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[18:38] <gordonDrogon> UnaClocker, a little can make a big difference to "usability" and "feel" though.
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[18:38] <xiambax-pi> Hello!
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[18:42] <UnaClocker> Yeah, it's not like I spent a lot to get a class 10 card.. It was $20 for a 32gb C10 card..
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[18:44] <xiambax-pi> UnaClocker, I got my 64gig Sandisk class 10 for 60 dollars on Amazon.ca
[18:44] <xiambax-pi> I use it in my S3 though
[18:44] <xiambax-pi> I don't need 64gigs in my pi really.
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[18:44] <xiambax-pi> Someone ban Malmen please!
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[18:46] <pksato> xiambax-pi: disable join/leave messages.
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[18:46] <xiambax-pi> how do i do that in irssi?
[18:46] <xiambax-pi> i just /ignored him
[18:46] <xiambax-pi> seems to have worked
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[18:47] <leechbook> 64gb is more space than I have on this netbook
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[18:47] <wh1p> ok so the reboot helped i ran upgrade and it fixed alot of packages, i just ran apt-get upgrade again just tp be sure and i am getting this?
[18:48] <wh1p> The following packages have been kept back:
[18:48] <wh1p> gnome-themes-standard libqt4-dbus libqt4-network libqt4-svg libqt4-xml libqtcore4 libqtgui4
[18:48] <wh1p> qdbus
[18:48] <wh1p> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 8 not upgraded.
[18:48] <skope> xiambax-pi: look up ignore parts joins quits from irssi.org
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[18:48] <wh1p> does this matter or should i ignore?
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[18:49] <gordonDrogon> wh1p, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
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[18:49] <pksato> .. /IGNORE * JOINS
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[18:50] <xiambax-pi> newark just emailed me, my cc was declined
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[18:50] <xiambax-pi> temped to up my order and give them a different card
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[18:50] <gordonDrogon> don't you have immediate reporting of declined or accepted over there?
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[18:51] <gordonDrogon> I don't remember the last time I had a card declined after it had been accepted online...
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[18:51] <xiambax-pi> No, Newark just emailed me. Our banks are not that sophisticated here yet. (Canada)
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[18:55] <gordonDrogon> oh well...
[18:55] <wh1p> thanks your help guys got my pi in good health again now :P
[18:56] <xiambax-pi> hehe http://imgur.com/fHBQeaL
[18:56] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Aww just thought of something. Since I distrohop a bit, the loss of ethernet may not be good.
[18:57] <ParkerR> Some things have network installers and such that don't want to work with my wifi
[18:59] <ParkerR> And I dont have another Pi I could do installs with :P
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[19:04] <UnaClocker> Yeah, I'm just using this thing as a laptop, so losing the ethernet was a no big deal for me.
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[19:05] <gordonDrogon> Hm. well thats a bother. Just booted up a brand new Pi with a pre-loaded SD card from Farnell and it's croaked - says the partition table is bad )-:
[19:06] <johang> reformat the SD card then
[19:07] <johang> i.e. rewrite the image
[19:07] <gordonDrogon> sure, but it's supposed to be pre-loaded. The other one I was was just fine.
[19:08] <gordonDrogon> SD card is fine in my latop. partitions check out OK.
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[19:09] <johang> weird.
[19:11] <gordonDrogon> yes. back in the Pi and it's booted fine. now going through the raspi-config. most odd. oh well.
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[19:17] <ParkerR> gordonDrogon, Maybe when you put it in the computer it ran a filesystem check
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> ParkerR, my computers don't do stuff like that automatically, but I did run checks anyway - passed clean.
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> it's another revision 000e Pi.
[19:18] <ParkerR> What makes your computers more special than others? :P
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> I set them up the wat I want them to run.
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> there are no autoounters, auto anythings when they detect new drives, etc.
[19:19] <ParkerR> You made it sound like your computers were too good to automatically run checks :P
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> I don't want them to do anything when I plug media in.
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> So it disable all those features.
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[19:21] <ngc0202> How do I tell which Model I got?
[19:22] <ParkerR> ngc0202, Do you have 1 USB port or two?
[19:22] <ngc0202> two
[19:22] <ParkerR> Model B
[19:22] <ngc0202> awesome
[19:23] <ParkerR> Does top report 256mb of RAm or 512?
[19:23] <gordonDrogon> does it have holes is easier ...
[19:23] <pksato> Only Model B are on sale.
[19:23] <ParkerR> Ahh yeah
[19:23] <gordonDrogon> if yes, then rev 2 else rev 1. All current Pi's are model b's right now.
[19:25] <ngc0202> oh ok
[19:25] <gordonDrogon> Hm. Initial Pi upgrade is a lot now! 174 packages & Fetched 159 MB in 2min 21s (1,123 kB/s)
[19:25] <ParkerR> Nice
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[19:40] <gordonDrogon> yea, but all very well geting the packages - it's still plodding on installing/upgrading them ...
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[19:53] <ngc0202> aw
[19:53] <ngc0202> I don't think my raspberry pi is booting
[19:54] <ngc0202> the green ACT light goes on for maybe 3 seconds or so but then goes off
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[19:54] <ngc0202> nothing happens on my TV
[19:54] <Caleb> no other lights
[19:54] <Caleb> ?
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[19:55] <ParkerR> ngc0202, 3 seconds is about the normal time
[19:55] <ParkerR> But weird it isnt booting
[19:55] <ngc0202> Caleb: And the power of course
[19:55] <ParkerR> ngc0202, What SD card do you have with it?
[19:56] <ngc0202> well my only spare SD only had ~120 MB of space on it, so I just put BerryBoot (I think) on it
[19:56] <ngc0202> and I put Raspbian on a USB Stick
[19:57] <ParkerR> ngc0202, So you were able to boot berryboot and install raspbian?
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[19:57] <ngc0202> That all happens on the Pi, right?
[19:57] <ParkerR> Yeah
[19:57] <ParkerR> The Pi does the USB flash drive formatting
[19:57] <ParkerR> And everything
[19:58] <ngc0202> well nothing has shown up on my screen yet
[19:58] <ParkerR> Try removing the flash drive
[19:58] <ParkerR> And booting
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[19:58] <ngc0202> the USB?
[19:59] <ParkerR> Yes...
[19:59] <ParkerR> What other flash drive would there be? :P
[19:59] <ngc0202> hehe, everyone always yells at me for trying to be sure!
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[19:59] <ladoga> ParkerR: SD card?
[20:00] <ladoga> flash memory too
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[20:02] <ngc0202> Oh, well
[20:02] <ngc0202> I just realized I had my TV on the wrong input
[20:02] <ngc0202> But it's still not displaying anything!
[20:03] <ngc0202> It's silly my new monitor doesn't have HDMI in
[20:03] <pksato> hdmi?
[20:04] <pksato> test with hdmi_safe=1 on config.txt
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[20:05] <ladoga> yes seems like hdmi is bit iffy...i had some cheap cable and got no image too
[20:05] <ladoga> could be probably remedied by editing config
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[20:06] <ladoga> but i use my raspi headless so didn't try it
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[20:08] <ngc0202> where's config.txt?
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[20:10] <ladoga> in /boot
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[20:11] <ladoga> in raspbian that is
[20:11] <gordonDrogon> well I think that Pi is cooked. So whoever buys it will have a fully updated & tested Pi.
[20:11] <ladoga> never used berryboot so no idea of it
[20:12] <xiambax-pi> All pi distros have a /boot cause it has to be vfat
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[20:12] <gordonDrogon> what's berryboot for?
[20:12] <ngc0202> booting from my USB Stick
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[20:13] <shirish> OT but does anybody know what the two wires/antennae of the multimeter are? The black one is the ground, the other one is ?
[20:13] <shirish> newbie here.
[20:14] <shirish> OT=Off topic
[20:14] <TAFB_zzz> shirish: the other/red one is positive/power :)
[20:14] <SpeedEvil> ##electronics
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[20:14] <shirish> TAFB_zzz: thanx.
[20:14] <Torikun> yo
[20:14] <SpeedEvil> thinking of one as ground will mislead
[20:14] <Torikun> TAFB: I got openvpn and squid running on the Pi's !
[20:15] <SpeedEvil> the meter measures the relative voltage between the probes.
[20:15] <Torikun> more value for my $35!
[20:15] <SpeedEvil> it indicates a positive voltage if the red lead is more positive than the black
[20:15] <pksato> shirish: black is a common. red is to test point.
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[20:16] <TAFB> Torikun: Nice! OpenVPN rocks :) anonymous internet FTW :)
[20:16] <TAFB> Did you see the pirate bay movie trailer? TPB AFK :)
[20:16] <Torikun> FTw!
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[20:16] <Torikun> no
[20:17] <Torikun> link?
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[20:18] <xiambax-pi> I have openvpn on my Asus router. Works good.
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[20:18] <Torikun> how do you get the keys from the router for the client?
[20:19] <xiambax-pi> i didnt need keys. i just set a user and password
[20:19] <Torikun> huh
[20:19] <Torikun> wha
[20:19] <Torikun> all the guides I follow require these easy-rsa keys
[20:20] <shirish> pksato: SpeedEvil: thanx guys.
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[20:21] <SpeedEvil> shirish: lurking on ##electronics may be useful
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[20:21] <shirish> SpeedEvil: thanx, will do.
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[20:21] <SpeedEvil> we're quite happy to answer 'what is a resistor questions,
[20:22] <pksato> shirish: http://www.sparkfun.com/tutorials/202
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[20:23] <kyle__> Is there a way to set the resolution of the HDMI output, without creating an xorg.conf file?
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[20:23] <Torikun> That file is too complicated kyle__ lol
[20:23] <ParkerR> kyle__, http://elinux.org/RPiconfig
[20:23] <ParkerR> I dont think you can do it with xorg.conf
[20:23] <pksato> kyle__: config.txt hdmi_ and framebuffer parameters
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[20:26] <kyle__> ParkerR: pksato Thank you.
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[20:27] <shirish> pksato: thanx, useful link.
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[20:27] <kyle__> I was going to hack out an xorg.conf by reflex (hdmi->vga active adapter stuck at 1080p), but figured there may be a better way.
[20:28] <pksato> kyle__: xorg.conf is not used on RPi, or other modern systems.
[20:28] <kyle__> Wow. This is pretty awesome info.
[20:28] <kyle__> pksato: It actually is, in a way. The system auto-assembles an xorg, based on what it detects. If you put a fragment of config in xorg.conf, it will auto-config everything BUT what you put in, so that part stays static.
[20:29] <pksato> except if use a proprietary Xorg drivers (nvidia amd) or very specifc conf.
[20:29] <kyle__> pksato: When you need to setup usb video devices, sometimes there's no better way :/
[20:30] <mjr> there are still uses for xorg.confs, though most common use cases indeed don't need them anymore
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[20:32] <kyle__> mjr: Thankfully.
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[20:33] <Hopsy> ParkerR: can you help me :(
[20:33] <ParkerR> Hopsy, Whats up
[20:34] <Hopsy> I cant make an AP from my wifi
[20:34] <Hopsy> raspberry*
[20:34] <Hopsy> with*
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[20:34] <kyle__> Hum. So the HDMI resolution, and the analog video resolution/aspect/etc can only be set on bootup.
[20:35] <kyle__> Hopsy: It's been a very very long time since I've made an AP in linux, but you used to be able to do most of it just using iwconfig.
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[20:35] <mjr> kyle__, googling for that, I did find suggestions for a not-very-supported method of changing resolution without booting using a couple of utilities and reinitializing the framebuffer device. Didn't try it myself though...
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[20:35] <kyle__> (it's been so long, that iwconfig was the ONLY way to configure wifi cards, to give you an idea).
[20:35] <pksato> kyle__: you can use tvservice to change resolution.
[20:36] <ParkerR> kyle__, typer "tvservice --help"
[20:36] <ParkerR> *type
[20:36] <Hopsy> kyle__: did you succeed to configure authentication stuff?
[20:36] <kyle__> pksato: Must have missed that skimming, I thought that was just for scanning what resolutions were supported :)
[20:36] <kyle__> Hopsy: I honestly don't recall. This was before WPA.
[20:37] <Hopsy> ow
[20:37] <ParkerR> For anymody that wants easy setup of wifi without X. sudo apt-get install wicd-curses && sudo service wicd start && wicd-curses
[20:37] <ParkerR> *anybody
[20:38] <ParkerR> Oh be sure to logout once after install. It adds the user to the netdev group
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[20:44] <Hopsy> kyle__ and ParkerR http://puu.sh/1Wr9o
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[20:44] <kyle__> Nice.
[20:44] <Hopsy> whats nice about it :(
[20:45] <ParkerR> kyle__, Its an error report
[20:45] <Hopsy> its not working haha
[20:45] <ladoga> /opt/cputemp/bin/cputemp
[20:46] <ladoga> sorry
[20:46] <Hopsy> 25 degrees
[20:46] <ngc0202> :( Still no luck getting anything to display
[20:46] <ladoga> pasted in wrong term window:)
[20:46] <kyle__> It's further though. I think you need an IP on your wireless nic, or you need to bridge (which is a PITA).
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[20:48] <ParkerR> Hopsy, Did you make all the modifications to /etc/dhcp/dhcpd.conf?
[20:48] <Hopsy> which modifications
[20:49] <Hopsy> I didnt edit that
[20:49] <ParkerR> Yiou said you followed this guide http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=19517&p=267048
[20:49] <ParkerR> *You
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[20:51] <Hopsy> ParkerR: ow yes, sorry I did that yesterday
[20:51] <Hopsy> looks like this: http://puu.sh/1Wrnj
[20:52] <ngc0202> I don't know why nothing is showing up on the screen
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[20:52] <ngc0202> I don't think it's the TV or cable
[20:52] <Hopsy> ngc0202: hdmi?
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[20:52] <ParkerR> Hopsy, Yopou might have to change the domain name
[20:52] <ngc0202> Yeah
[20:52] <ParkerR> *You
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[20:53] <ngc0202> I'm trying to boot BerryBoot
[20:53] <Hopsy> I changed it in google.com :p
[20:53] <ngc0202> off the SD Card
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[20:53] <ParkerR> Hopsy, What?
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[20:53] <Hopsy> domain name
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[20:53] <ParkerR> Im talking about this line "option domain-name "DSLR.PI";"
[20:54] <ParkerR> You kept his domanin name
[20:54] <ParkerR> *domain
[20:54] <ngc0202> Hopsy: I have no clue what's going wrong
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[21:02] <ngc0202> This is rather frustrating :P
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[21:04] <mgottschlag> ngc0202: you could try making an ssh connection first
[21:04] <ngc0202> ?
[21:04] <mgottschlag> flash a raspbian image, then get your router to tell the ip address of the pi, then connect to that address
[21:05] <mgottschlag> maybe you can get more information from there
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[21:05] <ngc0202> well I can't get internet to it
[21:05] <ngc0202> or boot raspbian
[21:05] <KameSense> mgottschlag: whenever me Pi looses the network, it doesn't recover it until reboot
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[21:06] <KameSense> so that might not work
[21:06] <mgottschlag> KameSense: but it usually will connect at startup and start an ssh server
[21:06] <ngc0202> My SD card is too small to hold raspbian, which is why I'm using BerryBoot
[21:07] <bge> 16GB ones don't cost much
[21:07] <bge> $10 or so
[21:07] <ngc0202> hehe, money isn't the problem
[21:07] <pksato> ngc0202: is a SD or MMC card?
[21:07] <ngc0202> SD
[21:08] <pksato> and ACT led blink soon after power up?
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[21:08] <ngc0202> It goes on right away for a few seconds, then goes off
[21:08] <Tachyon`> notice gertboard is back and ready assembled in this months paper spam from CPC
[21:09] <mgottschlag> does berryboot have some kind of system log?
[21:09] <KiltedPi> sounds a bit silly, but have you flashed it?
[21:09] <KiltedPi> Like, reinstalled the OS
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[21:09] <pksato> ngc0202: tryed with hdmi_safe=1 ?
[21:11] <ngc0202> well I haven't even tried to boot Raspbian yet
[21:11] <pksato> hdmi_safe is a firmware parameter/
[21:12] <KiltedPi> it takes a wee minute or two
[21:12] <KiltedPi> Which will be doubly so if you've a wee SD card
[21:12] <KiltedPi> I'm not familiar with 'berryboot' anyway
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[21:12] <KiltedPi> is that like a minimum size rapbian distro?
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[21:13] <xiambax-pi> yawn, i should go for my lunch break
[21:13] <xiambax-pi> berryboot is a thin client for vmware servers
[21:13] <ngc0202> It's a bootloader
[21:13] <EastLight> Hi folks. Using the linux text console (ie. without X), how do I enable DPMS power saving features (to make the monitor power down after a period of inactivity)? I've set the options in /etc/kbd/config , but this seems to have no effect (screen blanking works, but screen powerdown doesn't)
[21:14] <KiltedPi> EastLight-
[21:14] <KiltedPi> Look up how you do it in "Debian Wheezy"
[21:14] <KiltedPi> And it will (Almost 100 percent guarantee) work in Raspbian
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[21:15] <EastLight> I've looked, KiltedPi. The /etc/kbd/config file was all I found
[21:16] <EastLight> (and also a utility called vbetool , but that's only for x86 / x64 I think)
[21:16] <KiltedPi> is (Sorry for maybe a dumb question) DPMS set to 'on'?
[21:16] <KiltedPi> xset +dpms
[21:16] <pksato> RPi is DPMS capable?
[21:16] <KiltedPi> That will enable dpms
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[21:18] <EastLight> '-bash: xset: command not found'
[21:18] <EastLight> but I think xset is for the X windows - I'm using the text-based console
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[21:19] <KiltedPi^> it'll say "dpms enabled" or summthink
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[21:19] <mjr> EastLight, correct
[21:20] <KiltedPi^> Or- if you issue "xset q" (without ") and look at the bottom-
[21:20] <KiltedPi^> it will say whether dpms is enabled.
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[21:20] <KiltedPi^> or even possible
[21:21] <EastLight> KiltedPi: it says '-bash: xset: command not found' , but I think xset is for X windows - whereas I'm using the text-based console
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[21:28] <Hopsy> ngc0202: you can use a serial cable
[21:30] <ngc0202> Don't I need something to convert HDMI to that?
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[21:35] <mark_vh> what would be the easiest way to get just the boot partition of the raspbian image to a small sd card?
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[21:36] <Hopsy> ngc0202: no
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[21:36] <Hopsy> the serial cable is connected to the pins of your raspberrypi
[21:36] <KiltedPi^> Ach!
[21:37] <KiltedPi^> Yeah
[21:37] <KiltedPi^> It'll be for the x windows
[21:37] <KiltedPi^> I dunno then. Kinda new to unix
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[21:38] <Hopsy> ngc0202: did you follow this tut? http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot
[21:39] <ngc0202> of course
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[21:41] <mark_vh> perhaps berryboot needs a minimum amount of free space available? this disk is only 120MB, right?
[21:43] <ngc0202> yes
[21:44] <ngc0202> Sorry for taking so long to reply to things
[21:44] <ngc0202> I'm getting phone calls and playing around with it
[21:44] <mark_vh> :)
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[21:46] <ngc0202> So how can I get a serial cable working with it?
[21:46] <jelly1> buy one at that online shop and plug it in
[21:46] <xiambax-pi> I just had a rad rpi project idea.
[21:47] <xiambax-pi> setup android on it and have it take a picture every hour and post it to instagram
[21:47] <xiambax-pi> call it instapi
[21:47] <ngc0202> haha
[21:47] <ngc0202> a picture of what? why?
[21:48] <ngc0202> jelly1: You mean one of these, right? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/25/Serial_cable_%28blue%29.jpg
[21:48] <jelly1> no
[21:48] <jelly1> https://www.modmypi.com/shop/raspberry-pi-accessories/cables/USB-to-TTL-Serial-Cable-Debug-Console-Cable-for-Raspberry-Pi
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[21:50] <mark_vh> it's only relevant once you want to interface your rpi with other hardware/components though
[21:50] <xiambax-pi> put it on a busy street corner or in a tree somewhere
[21:51] <Hopsy> haha ngc0202 :D
[21:51] <ngc0202> :(
[21:51] <Hopsy> how would you fit that cable to your board
[21:52] <ngc0202> That's what I was wondering
[21:52] <ngc0202> But it'd be a beautiful, beautiful thing if I could
[21:52] <ngc0202> Because it's a pain in the ass to run back and forth in my room, crawling around in a corner
[21:53] <ngc0202> to get to the area where I can get power and HDMI to my pi
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[21:54] <ngc0202> But I wouldn't mind so much if it actually did something :)
[21:55] <Hopsy> ngc0202: maybe ssh is enabled?
[21:56] <Hopsy> by default
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[21:59] <rymate1234> hey guys
[21:59] <rymate1234> trying to use berryboot
[21:59] <ngc0202> :)
[21:59] <rymate1234> having problems getting it to recognisemy wireless network
[21:59] <ngc0202> aw
[21:59] <rymate1234> or rather, any wireless networks at all
[21:59] <ngc0202> So you got berryboot to work?
[21:59] <rymate1234> yes
[21:59] <ngc0202> hehe
[21:59] <ngc0202> I've been sitting here for a while trying to figure out why nothing is happening on mine
[22:00] <rymate1234> all I did was extract the contents of the .zip file to a normal FAT formatted SD card, and put it in your Raspberry Pi
[22:00] <ngc0202> Yes, me too
[22:00] <rymate1234> lol
[22:00] <ngc0202> :(
[22:00] <ngc0202> It's not displaying anything to my screen
[22:00] <rymate1234> welp
[22:01] <rymate1234> looks like I'll be digging out my ethernet cable
[22:01] <Hopsy> lol
[22:01] <Hopsy> haha
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[22:03] <rymate1234> woot found ir
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[22:04] <xiambax-pi> my boss just left. girl coworker went of vacation and i had to work today because of that, so he claims. cause god forbit one person run the store.
[22:04] <ngc0202> well, that's interesting
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[22:04] <xiambax-pi> then i find out its so he can leave to go to our staff christmas party in the city.
[22:04] <xiambax-pi> ART
[22:04] <xiambax-pi> ARG
[22:04] <ngc0202> I think it is a display issue...
[22:05] <ngc0202> I plug it in, the red light goes on
[22:05] <ngc0202> the green light goes on instantly after for a couple seconds and goes off
[22:05] <ngc0202> then my USB stick starts flashing its built in light saying activity
[22:06] <rymate1234> kthen
[22:07] <rymate1234> come on ethernet
[22:07] <rymate1234> yeeeees
[22:07] <rymate1234> it works
[22:07] <rymate1234> fuck
[22:07] <rymate1234> idk what distro to install
[22:08] <ngc0202> Raspbian, probably
[22:09] <UnaClocker> Yeah, start with Raspbian, it's well supported, and you can always customize it from the default install to your liking.
[22:09] <rymate1234> I went with something else
[22:09] <rymate1234> I can always install raspbian later
[22:09] <rymate1234> and DUAL BOOT
[22:10] <rymate1234> hey
[22:10] <rymate1234> uh
[22:10] <gordonDrogon> 2 SD cards ...
[22:10] <rymate1234> trackpad
[22:10] <rymate1234> pls scroll
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[22:10] <rymate1234> thnx
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[22:12] <Hopsy> arggh this makes me mad :(
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[22:13] <Hopsy> I created an AP http://puu.sh/1WtPj
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[22:14] <rymate1234> I wish berryboot had an arch linux option
[22:14] <rymate1234> :(
[22:14] <Hopsy> but its not encrypted, I dont get why
[22:15] <Hopsy> huh, also I created on channel 3
[22:15] <Hopsy> weird
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[22:20] <af1> hello
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[22:21] <Torikun> Yo
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[22:30] <frikinz> I also just created an ap that goes through a nat router to extend to my neighboor wireless. Finally got wireless in this place too.
[22:33] <xiambax-pi> You are stealing wireless?
[22:34] <LilSnoop4> question, how do you fix addon streaming when watching something and it seems to buffer every 5 minutes or so on my raspbmc. is there so tips to fix this, or is this how it is. thanks
[22:36] <af1> an offence under s.125 of the Communications Act 2003
[22:36] <xzr> depends
[22:36] <xzr> on your country and if the wireless is protected
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[22:36] <af1> ... in england and wales
[22:36] <ngc0202> I think I'm giving up on my Raspberry Pi for today :c
[22:37] <af1> ;)
[22:37] <ryanteck> But really
[22:37] <ryanteck> If there is public wi-fi then its not really that hard
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[22:38] <ryanteck> the moment you have to start trying to login using some wi-fi tools to get the key then I can perfectly understand
[22:38] <af1> if there is public wifi and it is implied it is for public use then its fine
[22:38] <ryanteck> some ISPS actually provide extra Wi-fi networks
[22:38] <frikinz> but not for free I think..
[22:39] <ryanteck> Some do for free if your a customer with them
[22:39] <frikinz> so not free :)
[22:39] <af1> but if its your neighbours wifi and he does not give permission then it is an offence wether it is locked or not
[22:39] <Hopsy> I have an interesting problem, I cant stop the wifi AP
[22:40] <frikinz> Yeah the world is full of offence, I'm only stelaing a few bytes with irc :p
[22:40] <frikinz> I've started hostap manually. was not working otherwise
[22:40] <Hopsy> I tried: ip link set wlan0 down and: service hostapd stop
[22:40] <Hopsy> hmm
[22:41] <af1> well, personally i don't condone it
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[22:41] <xiambax-pi> Shaw offers me free EXOwifi anywhere in Whistler. Its awesome.
[22:41] <xiambax-pi> But my lte is faster
[22:41] <frikinz> Basically, copied the config from /usr/share/doc/hostapd as explain in readme.Debian in /etc/hostapd/ .. changes use_wpa, set hte wpa_key, ssid and.. that's it.
[22:42] <frikinz> I'm using dnsmasqd and ip forwarding but there are other ways
[22:43] <frikinz> Will take my old ISP probably a month to set the line here :(
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[22:44] <Hopsy> frikinz: why does my raspberrypi not read any config files
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[22:45] <frikinz> Hopsy: I've had some weirdness with the service stopping right away. So I started it manually. I'm not going to investigate it right now or.. I'll loose connectivity..
[22:45] <Hopsy> when I edit hostapd.conf or wpa_supplicant.conf etc. its not working
[22:45] <Hopsy> when I set it manually through iwconfig then it works
[22:45] <frikinz> I'm not using wpa_supplicant for hostapd. I just set an ip address with ifconfig
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[22:46] <frikinz> mixing wpa_supplicant and hostapd is that possible?
[22:46] <Hopsy> frikinz: andd do you have an secured connection?
[22:46] <frikinz> hostapd does wpa and wpa2 itself yes
[22:46] <Hopsy> I dont know, maybe thats why I fail
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[22:47] <blbrown_win3> is there any type of development that is raspberrypi specific or friendly?
[22:47] <frikinz> and for that I've changed the line #wpa= to wpa=2 IEEE 802.11i/RSN (WPA2)
[22:48] <Hopsy> frikinz: may I see your hostapd.conf and network/interfaces files?
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[22:48] <frikinz> network/interfaces is not relevant. I did an ifdown wlan0 down first.
[22:48] <blbrown_win3> is there a tool to print power usage?
[22:49] <frikinz> Hopsy: then ifconfig wlan0 192.168.42.42 up
[22:49] <Hopsy> okay, I did that now too
[22:49] <Hopsy> okay
[22:49] <frikinz> Hopsy: did you take the hostapd template conf from /usr/share/doc ?
[22:50] <Hopsy> no I took this
[22:50] <Hopsy> frikinz: http://puu.sh/1WuVE
[22:50] <Hopsy> http://www.pi-point.co.uk/documentation/
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[22:52] <blbrown_win3> For more USB ports, I assume I just need a USB port extender?
[22:53] <frikinz> Hopsy: ok. I took the debian provided one. which, comment removed is: http://paste.debian.net/231276/ . Replace psk with result of "wpa_passphrase MYSSID PASSPHRASE"
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[22:57] <Hopsy> okay I changed the ssid and psk frikinz
[22:57] <Hopsy> should I restart wlan?
[22:57] <frikinz> Hopsy: and then manually: hostapd -d /etc/hostapd/hostpad.conf
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[22:57] <frikinz> ifdown wlan0; ifconfig wlan0 192.168.42.42 up
[22:57] <Hopsy> returns: Illegal instruction
[22:58] <Hopsy> when I do: hostapd -d /etc/hostapd/hostpad.conf
[22:58] <frikinz> no. ifup/down or network restart will call wpa stuff that will conflict
[22:59] <Hopsy> hmm
[22:59] <xiambax-pi> hehe usb port extender
[22:59] <xiambax-pi> blbrown_win3: A powered usb "hub"
[23:00] <blbrown_win3> hmm
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[23:00] <Hopsy> frikinz: so what should I do?
[23:00] <xiambax-pi> blbrown_win3: http://www.amazon.ca/Ebest-Adaptor-Vertical-Docking-Black/dp/B00ASVTJK8/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1359842425&sr=1-5
[23:00] <frikinz> Hopsy: no idea. looks like your hostapd binary is not for your arch?
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[23:01] <frikinz> Hopsy: you're not mixing releases with softfloat hardfloat or whatever right?
[23:01] <Hopsy> I dont hope so :(
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[23:06] <frikinz> also your wirelss driver needs to support ap mode
[23:08] <Hopsy> frikinz: how do I check this?
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[23:11] <frikinz> linuxwireless.org lists supported drivers
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[23:13] <Kalamatee> hi - does anyone know where I might find information on programming the raspi's USB hardware at a low level?
[23:14] <frikinz> [2013-01-05@14:28] <frikinz> Hopsy: maybe there http://linuxwireless.org/
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[23:15] <frikinz> okay. I'm out. nite
[23:19] <SpeedEvil> Kalamatee: there is no info other than the Linux driver
[23:19] <SpeedEvil> aiui
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[23:21] <Kalamatee> im guessing that uses the binary blob to handle usb =/
[23:25] <KiltedPi> "-pcbusb"
[23:25] <KiltedPi> Something like that.
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[23:27] <KiltedPi> Kalamatee- "$ lsusb" (without the ") lists USB devices
[23:28] <KiltedPi> "$ lsusb -v" makes it verbose
[23:28] <KiltedPi> If you want to go poking around into different microchip controllers (Like re-programming a toy)
[23:28] <KiltedPi> You need to know their architecture :(
[23:28] <Kalamatee> i don't have linux on it - im porting www.aros.org - and usb is the last thing needed to get it functional (fingers crossed)
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[23:29] <KiltedPi> good luck!
[23:30] <Kalamatee> thnx
[23:30] <Kalamatee> i have the "kernel" running and most of the system is done including the gfx driver
[23:30] <Kalamatee> so just need to write hardware drivers for the usb stack
[23:31] <xiambax-pi> What is the state of BSD ports to Pi?
[23:31] <xiambax-pi> Apparently OpenBSD is never gonna happen. Those guys are social outcasts.
[23:31] <xiambax-pi> But freebsd or netbsd would be good.
[23:31] <xiambax-pi> How polished in the netbsd port
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[23:38] <KiltedPi> what would you call a wee cabinet that stores electronics components?
[23:38] <KiltedPi> With wee drawers?
[23:38] <KiltedPi> I need one
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[23:39] <gordonDrogon> storage.
[23:39] <KiltedPi> Like this: http://www.tramikisupplies.co.uk/ekmps/shops/tramikisupplies/images/c7-24-x-drawer-wall-organiser-cabinet-for-nuts-bolts-screws-etc-132886-452-p.jpg
[23:40] <gordonDrogon> http://www.maplin.co.uk/44-drawer-organizer-storage-cabinet-29163
[23:40] <gordonDrogon> I think I've just linked to the same on on maplin..
[23:41] <KiltedPi> hah!
[23:41] <KiltedPi> yeah!
[23:41] <KiltedPi> I need one thats 12"x16" in dimensions
[23:41] <gordonDrogon> yea, that one is a bit big
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[23:42] <gordonDrogon> http://www.maplin.co.uk/productsearch?criteria=storage
[23:42] <gordonDrogon> boxes but not drawers.
[23:43] <KiltedPi> Yeah. Damn
[23:43] <pksato> I store my elec. parts on box like it http://dx.com/p/multi-function-21-compartment-plastic-storage-box-for-electronic-components-or-small-gadgets-58947
[23:43] <KiltedPi> Hard to find a wee one
[23:43] <KiltedPi> These are quite big
[23:43] <KiltedPi> Was just thinking that pksato
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[23:43] <KiltedPi> Might need a portable one
[23:44] <af1> hey KiltedPi
[23:44] <af1> i'll brb
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