#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-02-11

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[0:07] <KiltedPi^> Chainmail for cats : http://www.catster.com/files/jeff-de-boer-5-Persian-Cat-Armor.jpg (Warning - Irrelevalent to raspbi!)
[0:08] <dwatkins> genius
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[0:26] <KiltedPi^> Configuring PPP, OSPF, DHCP, NAT and default routing to ISP for my networking exams. BORED
[0:26] <KiltedPi^> :(
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[0:27] <KiltedPi^> Anyone else in here done their CCNA?
[0:27] <KiltedPi^> Did it help them get a job? :/
[0:28] <dwatkins> I work with someone who has a CCNA, I think, KiltedPi^.
[0:28] <roasted> I studied for the CCNA... but never took the exam .:/
[0:28] <dwatkins> I'm tempted to do something similar myself, although I may just be filling in the holes in swiss cheese.
[0:28] <pronto> roasted: are you me?
[0:28] <pronto> xD
[0:28] <roasted> <3
[0:29] * wiiguy (~fake@unaffiliated/wiiguy) Quit (Quit: I just broke my connection, but no worries, we can rebuild it. We have the technology.)
[0:29] <pronto> though getting the CCNA means a) you know how to google the answers, b) you memerozied all the 'cisco-ism' c) you do have basic network understanding
[0:33] <beers> I wouldn't have my job without the CCNA since it's really just a Cisco shop
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[0:34] * MichaelC is now known as MichaelC|Sleep
[0:35] <dwatkins> ah, so the CCNA is much like the MCSE "Microsoft TCP/IP Networking" exam, then - knowing where to click will get you a fair portition of the marks
[0:35] <pronto> well, with cisco htings, its knowing what to type
[0:36] <pronto> but yeah
[0:36] <dwatkins> fair enough
[0:37] <KiltedPi^> MSCITP now
[0:37] <KiltedPi^> They changed the name
[0:37] * KiltedPi^ shrugs
[0:37] <dwatkins> yeah, I gather they were getting easy
[0:37] <KiltedPi^> CISCO is great tho.
[0:37] <dwatkins> anyhoo, sleep time, later folks :)
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[0:38] <KiltedPi^> nite
[0:38] * Mr_P (~gerhard@chello080108255018.3.14.vie.surfer.at) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:39] <KiltedPi^> I love how you get experts that con businesses into thinking they can train people to configure CISCO iOS in like three weeks
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[0:39] <KiltedPi^> I've been doing it about a year- its sodding hard
[0:39] <KiltedPi^> If you know linux, its nicer
[0:39] <KiltedPi^> I got some MSCTS.
[0:40] <KiltedPi^> they're pretty worthless in comparison. Whats the point of knowing windows operating systems, - if you can't analyse and troubleshoot a network
[0:41] <KiltedPi^> I'd honestly go to say, a wireshark qualification would be more worthwhile
[0:41] <pronto> mmm, i love wireshark
[0:41] <pronto> ...for the wireshark 0days xD
[0:41] <KiltedPi^> :)
[0:41] <pronto> that .... is lulzy
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[0:42] <pronto> at the defcon20 ctf if i recall right couple of teams got hit by wireshark 0days
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[0:43] <KiltedPi^> You can cause wireshark to have a stack overflow?
[0:44] <KiltedPi^> Lol!
[0:44] <KiltedPi^> Did they fix it quickly?
[0:44] <pronto> wireshark sems to be releitivly quick to patch things
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[0:46] <silverrocker> Quick question, If I buy a usb hub can I use it as a usb hub from the rpi aswell as use it to power the rpi?
[0:47] <shiftplusone> if the hub can provide enough current, yes.
[0:47] <pronto> when i tried that with my USB hub, the Pi would stop working after a day or so and need manually rebooted
[0:47] <pronto> ^^so probably a current/amp issue
[0:48] <silverrocker> isn't this bad to do (i.e. have the usb power cable coming from the hub and an extra cable for actual usb stuff)?
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[0:48] <KiltedPi^> not sure if it would damage the pi
[0:48] * KiltedPi^ shrugs
[0:48] <KiltedPi^> do it and find out pls
[0:49] <mgottschlag> it certainly shouldn't damage the pi
[0:49] <KiltedPi^> @_@
[0:49] <KiltedPi^> If the voltage on the pi drops below 5V it will
[0:49] <KiltedPi^> or can*
[0:49] <silverrocker> best thing to do is have an extra powersupply dedicated for the rpi?
[0:49] <mgottschlag> why? the 5V wire at the usb ports is directly wired to the 5V at the micro usb connector
[0:50] <mgottschlag> so it shouldn't cause any issues, even if the usb hub backfed some power through the usb ports
[0:52] <beers> ~
[0:53] <silverrocker> ok I have double checked and it seems to be no problem indeed, thanks all
[0:53] <silverrocker> I have rev2 bord it seems and backfedding wont do harm
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[1:00] <AC`97> he probably backfedded his pi
[1:01] <boakun> what is backfeeding
[1:02] * aphadke (~Adium@c-71-198-5-34.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:02] <AC`97> putting power through things the wrong way around
[1:02] <aphadke> is it possible to get flash 11 workng on the pi?
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[1:03] <AC`97> aphadke: yes.
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[1:03] <aphadke> AC`97: any link?
[1:03] <AC`97> flash works good in bochs
[1:03] * aphadke starts drooling..
[1:03] <AC`97> :P
[1:03] <mgottschlag> AC`97: I saw that one coming :D
[1:03] <mgottschlag> but really, why not?
[1:03] <aphadke> hmmm u guys making fun of me?
[1:03] <mgottschlag> can't have worse performance than gnash
[1:05] * schnuws (~schnuws@h127n5-n-d4.ias.bredband.telia.com) Quit (Quit: changing servers)
[1:05] <mgottschlag> aphadke: bochs is that thing you see when people run windows on their arm devices
[1:05] <aphadke> mgottschlag: yea - don't wanna emulate a whole OS to run flash
[1:06] <aphadke> i was hoping to get flash running on the pi so I can use it to watch videos from abc.com and other tv networks
[1:06] <mgottschlag> the only solution which somewhat works is gnash
[1:06] <mgottschlag> but it isn't fast enough to play youtube videos, because hardware acceleration is missing
[1:06] <AC`97> script. download. play.
[1:06] <aphadke> mgottschlag: yea, thats what i figured, but most of these videos are mp4, playback shouldn't be a problem..
[1:07] <mgottschlag> there are simple scripts for youtube atleast, but probably not for other websites
[1:07] <mgottschlag> and I am off for today, gn8
[1:07] <aphadke> AC`97: thats what i want to do, these sites use rtmp protocol and there isn't a easy way to figure out the mp4 link
[1:07] <AC`97> psh, rtmp is a piece of cake
[1:08] <AC`97> try rtmpdump
[1:08] <aphadke> AC`97: yea, thats what i am using, but to invoke the rtmp player u need to start playing the video
[1:09] <AC`97> ... ?
[1:09] <AC`97> i think... yourdoingitwrong
[1:09] <aphadke> for eg: http://www.aetv.com/lifestyle/video/pamela-and-carey-17139332
[1:09] <aphadke> how do i get the rtmp from the above url?
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[1:09] <AC`97> er, hold on.. lemme boot up my server
[1:10] <aphadke> AC`97: okie..
[1:11] <AC`97> wtf
[1:11] <AC`97> ......
[1:11] <AC`97> why is the page 1MB in size?
[1:12] <aphadke> AC`97: haha :)
[1:12] * mgottschlag (~quassel@reactos/tester/phoenix64) Quit (Ping timeout: 248 seconds)
[1:13] <aphadke> AC`97: the way i do on my mac is open this URL in browser, grab the video url thats playing via rtmpdump, export that url to a file and then play it on my pi..
[1:13] <aphadke> but thats a looooong process..
[1:13] <AC`97> automate it
[1:13] <AC`97> netcat, etc..
[1:13] <aphadke> AC`97: i want to do it w/o my mac
[1:14] * AC`97 refrains from making anti-mac comment
[1:14] <AC`97> lalala...~
[1:14] <aphadke> AC`97: how about without any computer but just the pi
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[1:15] <AC`97> hmm
[1:15] <AC`97> er, let me do some javascript unobfuscating first...
[1:16] <aphadke> AC`97: okie!
[1:16] * AC`97 is computer illiterate, btw...
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[1:18] <home> I am computer illiterate!
[1:19] <AC`97> aphadke: http://link.theplatform.com/s/xc6n8B/LAMvH_70AacS?mbr=true&mbr=true&assettypo&sig=0051183aca7cf72716df92dd16b87921f45fd3dfa9150e4d96733363723374&format=SMIL&Tracking=true&Embedded=true
[1:19] <AC`97> what do you see?
[1:19] <aphadke> AC`97: wget'ing
[1:19] <AC`97> why wget? D:
[1:20] <aphadke> AC`97: sweetness, how did u get that?
[1:20] <AC`97> the ponies showed me the way
[1:20] <aphadke> AC`97: awww
[1:20] <AC`97> i really have no clue
[1:21] <AC`97> i'm computer illiterate :|
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[1:21] <aphadke> :|
[1:21] <AC`97> also, a drive on my server is dying
[1:21] <AC`97> i knew i shouldn't have bought used :|
[1:21] <AC`97> even worse, i bought 7 of them
[1:22] <UnaClocker> wget is like a command line web browser without the browsing part. You give it the URL to a file hosted on a webserver, and it'll download that file.. Very handy tool.
[1:23] <AC`97> psh, even telnet can do that
[1:23] <nopslide> well, YOU can do it via telnet.. but telnet itself doesnt do it
[1:23] <nopslide> wget will speak, recursive rape, authenticate, etc.
[1:23] <hybr1d8> also nc and curl can do it ;)
[1:23] <AC`97> you still have to feed wget
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[1:24] <nopslide> yes.. a url. but truly, telnet/nc can do ANYTHING just about with a tcp socket, so the point was kind of pointless..
[1:24] <nopslide> curl / wget serve their purpose.
[1:26] <KiltedPi^> resuming aborted downloads is pretty cool
[1:27] <AC`97> psh, even telnet can do that
[1:27] <AC`97> :P
[1:27] * AC`97 wanders off
[1:27] <scummos> firefox usually is too stupid to do it
[1:27] <AC`97> you can always switch to wget after firefox
[1:27] <scummos> yes that's what I do for anything > 100MB ;)
[1:28] <scummos> I mean, use wget from the start
[1:28] <AC`97> before firefox bungles it up :P
[1:28] <scummos> yes
[1:28] <hybr1d8> You might be interested in 'axel' then as it can do multi-part downloads
[1:28] <AC`97> aka server rape
[1:29] <hybr1d8> aka handle dodgy connection better ;)
[1:29] <AC`97> lol
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[1:33] <elek> nice, built my first usage for the rpi. headless constant audio streamer of classical music to the babies room over last.fm. everything including speakers disguised so you dont know its there
[1:34] <aphadke> AC`97: i guess i'll have to figure out how u did the rtmp thingie myself :)
[1:35] <SpeedEvil> elek: the music might be a hint
[1:35] <AC`97> aphadke: it wasn't rtmp
[1:36] <elek> well im saying it's not cluttering the room
[1:36] <aphadke> AC`97: ok??? the mp4 link
[1:36] <nopslide> nice elek! how'd you disguise it?
[1:36] <AC`97> just read and follow through the javascript :]
[1:37] * aphadke loads firebug
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[1:38] <AC`97> eww firebug
[1:38] <elek> book shelf w/ books in front of the small speakers and an removed the pages of a hardcovered book to hide the rpi.
[1:38] <aphadke> AC`97: what did u use? and any starting point? that page is freaking a meg in size
[1:38] <elek> shell.fm works great on raspbian
[1:38] <AC`97> i used my server :D
[1:38] <AC`97> and uh... that js system...
[1:38] <zyklon> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDnPkO9oVMA&feature=player_embedded
[1:39] <AC`97> forgot what it's called :(
[1:39] <AC`97> node.js ?
[1:39] <elek> ya
[1:39] <zyklon> err, wrong window
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[1:40] <AC`97> elek: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=281060517915
[1:40] <AC`97> get that.
[1:40] <nopslide> elek: very cool
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[1:40] <elek> AC`97: why and what is it lol
[1:40] <AC`97> it's pure ponies
[1:43] <Fudge> well the raspbian channel with 200+ nicks do not seem very active/alive
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[1:45] <axion> perhaps you should try #archlinuxarm with ~200 nicks which is very alive
[1:45] <AC`97> ^
[1:45] <AC`97> #archlinux-arm
[1:45] <axion> oops
[1:46] <AC`97> indeed.
[1:46] <axion> point is, it's not a single-device distro, and is used by a multitude of hardware communities
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[1:46] <AC`97> also, use archlinux.
[1:46] <Fudge> thanks
[1:47] <Fudge> yeah I know but wanted to have a stab with debian first
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[1:50] <Coburn> Anyone thought about using a R-Pi for bitcoin mining?
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[1:50] <Coburn> I'm currently running 50Miner on my gaming laptop.
[1:50] <Coburn> Thought I could offload onto a R-Pi
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[1:54] <Xark> Coburn: I doubt it would gain you much (maybe more than electricity cost..but maybe not). If you could utilize the GPU then it might make more sense.
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[1:54] <axion> Coburn: it wouldnt be that efficient on a Pi, since there is only 1 core
[1:55] * ukgamer is now known as ukgamer|away
[1:57] <Coburn> Yeah, I read on the forums
[1:59] <Coburn> I have a GeForce GT440 at home lying in my drawer. Maybe I need to build a little PC and stick that GPU
[1:59] <Coburn> into it
[2:01] <axion> there are better devices than a pi on the cheap for the job
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[2:01] <Xark> Coburn: I suspect would swamp the CPU only RPi. They are great little machines, but not for the "beefy CPU". :)
[2:01] <Coburn> heh
[2:01] <Coburn> I'm running a chatbot on my R-Pi using MegaHAL
[2:02] <axion> maybe a mk808 dual core gpu/quad core cpu in parallel would do it
[2:02] <Coburn> it's great
[2:02] <axion> $50
[2:02] <Coburn> I have a ODROID-U2
[2:02] <lost_soul> multi-gpu systems would likely be far more suited to bitcoin mining
[2:02] <axion> nice
[2:02] <Coburn> At the moment, I'm doingg 53.902 MH/s
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[2:03] <axion> Coburn: which device is smaller, u2 or pi?
[2:04] <Coburn> u2 logic board is smaller than R-Pi
[2:04] <Coburn> It's square
[2:04] <axion> there is more than the logic board?
[2:04] <Coburn> let me compare, I ahve it near by
[2:04] <Coburn> logic board has all the essentails
[2:04] <Coburn> comes complete with heatsink (which acts as a stand too)
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[2:05] <Coburn> http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php?g_code=G135341370451
[2:05] <Coburn> around half size credit card
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[2:07] <axion> nice
[2:07] <axion> i am only familiar with x1
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[2:09] <TAFB> but look at the size of the heatsink! lol
[2:09] <TAFB> http://com.odroid.com/sigong/_Files/2012/201211/images/201211251432377371.jpg
[2:10] <boakun> lol the odroid o2
[2:10] <boakun> its nto really that big
[2:10] <axion> lol you dont need it
[2:10] <boakun> that pcb board fits in your hand
[2:10] <axion> its tiny
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[2:10] <boakun> its mali 400 though
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[2:10] <axion> http://com.odroid.com/sigong/_Files/2012/201211/images/201211271521204518.jpg
[2:10] <boakun> http://www.hardkernel.com/renewal_2011/products/prdt_info.php#
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[2:11] <TAFB> in unrelated news, my box is putting in some big uptime :) http://1676900148/
[2:12] <atouk> btw, status page code updated for model a/b detection
[2:12] <TAFB> nice!
[2:13] <sadbox> TAFB: bah! I just rebooted my linode for upgrades
[2:13] <rosieres> Hi, has anybody a clue if there??s a browser that uses the GPU to have fancy transistions and so on ?
[2:13] <TAFB> sadbox: that sucks! I had someone working on my box, told them if they reboot it they die! lol
[2:14] <TAFB> sadbox: I've done tons of pacman -Syu's since last reboot, probably 4 kernel upgrades, etc. Eventually it'll prolly mess up and need a reboot :)
[2:14] <sadbox> TAFB: But, my lazy friend... who doesn't bother with kernel updates... " 20:13:28 up 178 days, 6:53, 2 users, load average: 0.16, 0.08, 0.06
[2:14] <TAFB> nice, what kinda box? the Pi?
[2:14] <sadbox> nah, just a VPS
[2:14] <TAFB> lol
[2:14] <axion> rosieres: anything modern, assuming your hardware supports webgl
[2:15] <TAFB> my box is going to be on solar power soon, might affect the uptime a lil
[2:16] <TAFB> http://www.bhon.net/images-dynamic/images/imag0032xy.jpg
[2:16] <rosieres> axion: i??m talking about inside the raspberry . . . i??ve seen some firefoxos previews that do it . . . nut haent seen any browser at all
[2:16] <axion> depends what you mean by fancy transitions and how they are created
[2:17] <axion> but there is no stable xorg acceleration on the pi
[2:17] <axion> it would have to use dispmanx via openmax, so unlikely yet
[2:18] <rosieres> axion: fadeins and slides for example . . . at the moment everything is rendered on the cpu which is quite laggy
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[2:19] <axion> the problem is not a lack of a web browser that can use the gpu
[2:19] <axion> but moreso the lack of a usable display driver
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[2:19] <axion> an application would have to be written from scratch to access the pi firmware directly, or existing software hacked to not use Xorg
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[2:20] <axion> there is work being done on a driver though it is not ready
[2:21] <rosieres> axion: any Idea when it will be ?
[2:21] <Dyskette> rosieres: don't hold your breath ;)
[2:21] <axion> when more coders jump on board i'd assume, or never as with most software
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[2:23] <rosieres> mhhh . . . :-) is it on github ?
[2:23] <axion> it is on the wiki
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[2:24] <axion> here you go lol http://elinux.org/RPi_Xorg_rpi_Driver
[2:25] <axion> development stopped over a month ago
[2:25] <axion> might want to send the dev a message
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[2:27] <rosieres> axion: do you know how the xbmc team made it ? their GUI is quite good performing . . .
[2:29] <axion> the xorg-rbp port uses openmax talking to the firmware's own window manager (dispmanx) bypassing Xorg
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[2:29] <axion> err xbmc-rbp
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[2:35] <rosieres> axion: I think wayland and QT5 are my friends -> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/wayland-compositor
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[3:05] <boakun> mm rpi is pretty nice
[3:05] <boakun> only 25% cpu idle in xbmc
[3:05] <Caleb> what ya got running on it
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[3:06] <rosieres> this is also really impressing -> http://video.golem.de/audio-video/7689/raspberry-pi-qt-5-und-qml-shaders.html
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[3:07] <boakun> Caleb, openelec nightlies
[3:07] <boakun> with default skin
[3:07] <Caleb> nice
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[3:07] <boakun> http://sprunge.us/OcZV
[3:07] <boakun> my config
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[3:07] <Caleb> might have to check it out
[3:07] <UnaClocker> rosieres: Really old video.
[3:08] <boakun> i should find a nice rpi case now
[3:08] <rosieres> Dunno: never touched a pi till today . . . ;-)
[3:08] <boakun> http://www.moovika.fr/shop/product.php?id_product=129
[3:08] <boakun> mm
[3:08] <boakun> kinda pricy
[3:08] <Caleb> boakun have you used raspbmc
[3:09] <UnaClocker> rosieres: You didn't make that vidoe.
[3:09] <boakun> no i havnet caleb
[3:09] <rosieres> nope
[3:09] <Caleb> ah just wondering if openelec runs better
[3:09] <boakun> i hear openelec is more optimized
[3:09] <UnaClocker> I use RaspBMC on two of my Pi.
[3:09] <boakun> openelec is more barebones
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[3:09] <Caleb> i see
[3:10] <Caleb> raspbmc seems to use a bunch of cpu compared to what you said
[3:10] <UnaClocker> RaspBMC is nice, it's simple, stable.
[3:10] <Caleb> yeah it is
[3:10] <boakun> openelec is nice as well. dont write it off
[3:10] <boakun> i oc'd my cpu Caleb
[3:10] <AC`97> what does "curl -N 838879818" do?
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[3:10] <Caleb> i did mine too but it seems raspbmc doesnt take it most the time
[3:10] <UnaClocker> AC`97: Still trolling?
[3:11] <boakun> http://www.etsy.com/listing/93162730/bramble-pi-raspberry-pi-laser-cut-finger?
[3:11] <boakun> ill take that
[3:11] <boakun> xD
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[3:12] <AC`97> hmmm
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[3:12] * AC`97 is bored :(
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[3:19] <necr0tik> Hi having some issues with raspbmc on my pi. Monitoring tp1/tp2 I see sometimes 4.65. All I got plugged in is ethernet and a hdmi cable. I get usb disconnect messages and a flood on dmesg about 1-2m after boot and ethernet and whatever else uses onboard usb gets hosed at this time. tried two different microusb power supplies and two cables with each.
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[3:20] <AC`97> try more power supplies
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[3:21] <AC`97> or try a computer usb port
[3:21] <pksato> may be, defective F3 polyfuse.
[3:22] <necr0tik> Ill try a computer usb, how do you test the f3 fuse
[3:22] <AC`97> a defective fuse SHOULD trip more often though, right? o.o
[3:22] <AC`97> necr0tik: check voltage before and after the lil green monster
[3:23] <pksato> F3 drop only few mili-volts.
[3:24] <necr0tik> Green monster? Im seeing 4.55 with a computer powersupply at some points.
[3:24] <AC`97> hmm
[3:24] <AC`97> necr0tik: you have the 512MB version?
[3:25] <necr0tik> yes
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[3:25] <AC`97> i believe the lil green monster should be on the back of the board then
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[3:26] <pksato> or you have very crappy usb cables,
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[3:26] <AC`97> necr0tik: http://ss.edited.us/130210182628.png
[3:27] <necr0tik> I found the F3, how is it tested, I have a multi
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[3:27] <AC`97> ground on one of the gold shinypoints, i believe
[3:27] <AC`97> then test voltage at both ends of the fuse. see if they're the same
[3:28] <necr0tik> My multi doesnt have a ground, just a red and blue thing.
[3:28] <necr0tik> red*black
[3:28] <AC`97> black = ground
[3:28] <necr0tik> ok cool. im not an EE guy :P
[3:28] <AC`97> well, doesn't matter anyways, you probably have a digital multimeter :P
[3:28] <necr0tik> i do.
[3:29] <AC`97> reverse it, and all you'll get is an extra negative
[3:29] <necr0tik> yea ok cool.
[3:29] <necr0tik> so uh, which gold thing do i use
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[3:30] <AC`97> well uh.. you can also use tp2
[3:30] <DooMMasteR> when they are already "used" they might have some resistance
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[3:30] <DooMMasteR> they are selfhealing??? but after they are blown they never become as new again
[3:31] <necr0tik> i get 4.9-4.88 on the side closest to the edge
[3:31] <AC`97> how about the other side??
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[3:32] <necr0tik> i get a drop of about .05
[3:32] <AC`97> sounds normal
[3:33] <pksato> RPi have OS loaded?
[3:33] <necr0tik> I have the raspbmc net image loading on a card, i am trying to do its initial isntall.
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[3:35] <pksato> voltage measurement with and with out loaded OS have big diference.
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[3:36] <necr0tik> Well its installer is running and using the LAN module. But it said dropping past 4.7 is bad and its definitely doing that
[3:36] <necr0tik> .
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[3:37] <pksato> some measurement http://pastebin.com/QqYy3KAX
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[3:39] <necr0tik> BS1238 notes some issues : http://elinux.org/RaspberryPi_Boards : Weird stability problems. Can build Quake3, and can play it for a little while, but eventually locks up (black screen, loses ethernet link). Putting it in the Adafruit case seems to exacerbate the problem.
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[3:45] <ngc0202> It's OK to leave the RPi plugged in and running for extended periods of time, right?
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[3:45] <hybr1d8> yep
[3:45] <beers> indeed
[3:45] <pksato> Yes. like others computers
[3:46] <DooMMasteR> hmm at idle my pi says temp=35.8'C
[3:47] <necr0tik> So is the BS1238 known to be bugged should I return it or what else can i try/check
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[3:48] <sogeking99> Hey guys.
[3:48] <pksato> longest uptimes http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=18080&p=282613
[3:49] <DooMMasteR> pksato: :P
[3:49] <sogeking99> Could the more expensive model be used as a emulation device for snes games and other retro consoles?
[3:49] <DooMMasteR> SNES works???
[3:49] <sogeking99> N64 even?
[3:50] <DooMMasteR> but not that well
[3:50] <DooMMasteR> nope N64 never
[3:50] <ngc0202> great, ok
[3:50] <ngc0202> I was wondering if I should leave it overnight :P
[3:50] <DooMMasteR> 03:50:35 up 4 days, 9:36, 1 user, load average: 1.02, 0.47, 0.20
[3:50] <DooMMasteR> :P
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[3:51] <sogeking99> Oh I saw them running 1080p video beautifully and just thought it might be able to
[3:51] <DooMMasteR> 1080p is no problem in h264???
[3:52] <DooMMasteR> but that is because it has decode/encode acceleration for that
[3:53] <sogeking99> Right, I'm not very tech savvy, what makes it better for learning to program with than my pc?
[3:55] <DooMMasteR> 1. thing??? it is affordable
[3:56] <DooMMasteR> 2. it makes a somewhat great little media center??? and that at ~4-5Watts of power usage
[3:57] <necr0tik> n64 should be fine sogeking99
[3:57] <DooMMasteR> 3. it is for many people a 2. box to experiement on without the risk of breaking stuff??? often even the first contact with linux and/or a commandline
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[3:58] <DooMMasteR> necr0tik: what? N64??? the MIPS stuff??? never
[3:58] <DooMMasteR> unless there is a recompiler
[3:58] <necr0tik> He said emulate. Not native execution.
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[3:59] <DooMMasteR> emulate will not really work
[3:59] <DooMMasteR> SNES yeah
[3:59] <DooMMasteR> but not the N64
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[3:59] <sogeking99> I was thinking about using it as a wireless media centre. Do you think my broadband could steam hd videos? I I get around 750kbps
[3:59] <necr0tik> Well they were working on a Mupen64Plus port.
[3:59] <ParkerR> Accurate emualtion costs CPU
[3:59] <ParkerR> Whuch the Pi isnt great at
[4:00] <ParkerR> *emulation
[4:00] <DooMMasteR> PSone would be easier to archive??? but even that needs a lot of CPU power to be done
[4:00] <necr0tik> Its emulating a 90mhz chip, i think there is some wiggle room.
[4:00] <ParkerR> sogeking99, It would take a little bit to buffer formt he internet
[4:00] <necr0tik> And PCSX runs good.
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[4:00] <DooMMasteR> necr0tik: completly different architecture
[4:00] <ParkerR> *from the
[4:00] <necr0tik> Alright, well I've seen working n64 on a pi, did my eyes deceive me?
[4:01] <DooMMasteR> necr0tik: PS is a lot easier to do
[4:01] <DooMMasteR> necr0tik: youtube it and I believe you :P
[4:01] <necr0tik> Get my pi working and I can try and get a copy.
[4:01] <necr0tik> :)
[4:01] <sogeking99> I mean from my hard drive sorry. I I guess Internet won't come into it, it will be on my lan
[4:02] <necr0tik> And I don't see why if my android phone could do n64, the raspberry pi would be any worse.
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[4:03] <DooMMasteR> and as far as I can say??? PCSX only works wothout scaling??? and some other downers
[4:03] <DooMMasteR> necr0tik: because most phones have a lot more powe rthan the pi
[4:04] <DooMMasteR> there are even just some phones with ARMv6 in them
[4:04] <DooMMasteR> most use ARMv7 cores
[4:04] <necr0tik> It was on a DROID
[4:04] <necr0tik> clocked to 600mhz
[4:04] <sogeking99> Honestly if I can stream my hd files from my computer to the tv downstairs, it will be worth it
[4:05] <necr0tik> sogeking99, should be fine, wired/wireless?
[4:05] <DooMMasteR> necr0tik: even the droid has more power
[4:06] <DooMMasteR> any ARMv7 will blow the BCM away at similar speeds :P
[4:06] <DooMMasteR> the GPU is not that lame though
[4:06] <sogeking99> necr0tik, I will be wireless
[4:06] <DooMMasteR> the memory access is a real pain in the ??? on the pi in particular
[4:07] <necr0tik> sogeking99, I do it on wireless, if signal is poor obviously its going to not work so well, i had to find a good position for my router and card
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[4:08] <necr0tik> I'm using 802.11n but I think I was using Gish speeds.
[4:08] <sogeking99> I think my wireless is quite capable honestly. I get a decent down speed of 750kbps
[4:09] <DooMMasteR> I never got good speeds over WiFi via USB on the Pi
[4:09] <DooMMasteR> it seems as if USB is holding it back a lot
[4:09] <sogeking99> Oh really?
[4:09] <necr0tik> DooMMasteR, my experience is similar.
[4:09] <DooMMasteR> tried 3 different dongles??? and settled with the cable :P
[4:09] <necr0tik> even the lan, same thing
[4:10] <DooMMasteR> yeah but LAN is still ~20-25MBit/s
[4:10] <necr0tik> I can't recall accurate numbers since its not working, but i seem to remember it being not note worthy.
[4:11] <necr0tik> GPU performance is good though :)
[4:11] <sogeking99> I might check it out. If nothing else it will give me something new to play with
[4:11] <necr0tik> sogeking99, I use raspbmc and stream all the time, never a hitch till the usb started borking
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[4:12] <necr0tik> whats the process for upgrading the firmware
[4:13] <sogeking99> Yeah I like the idea of it a lot. Ouya will be out soon and that is apparently going to be great for emulation.
[4:13] <DooMMasteR> use Hexxehs script to update the firmware
[4:13] <DooMMasteR> it is quite simple
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[4:14] <sogeking99> What's the boot speed like?
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[4:15] <DooMMasteR> sogeking99: hmm ~20sec to a term for me
[4:15] <DooMMasteR> ~14sec until network is up
[4:15] <sogeking99> Sorry for all the questions, just heard about it. They mention it a lot in this magazine in reading 'linux format'
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[4:15] <sogeking99> Oh impressive
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[4:16] <DooMMasteR> sogeking99: I am not booting into an GUI
[4:17] <sogeking99> Oh so you use yours only through cli?
[4:19] <DooMMasteR> yepp
[4:19] <sogeking99> I see the hardware is all exposed since there is no case, this seems strange.
[4:19] <DooMMasteR> does not even have a screen :P
[4:20] <DooMMasteR> it sometimes runs Rasbmc though??? and plays nicel
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[4:20] <sogeking99> Out of curiosity, what are you using it for the?
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[4:20] <sogeking99> Then*
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[4:20] <DooMMasteR> audio relay
[4:21] <DooMMasteR> some services
[4:21] <DooMMasteR> http://stratum0.mooo.com:1178/
[4:21] <DooMMasteR> runs on one
[4:21] <DooMMasteR> a powermeter basically
[4:21] <DooMMasteR> an IRCbot
[4:22] <sogeking99> Ah right.
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[4:23] <SpeedEvil> DooMMasteR: fridge/freezer is obvious
[4:23] <DooMMasteR> the other is a boiler
[4:23] <DooMMasteR> and a server??? wireless AP, switches??? other background stuff
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[4:23] <DooMMasteR> that is always on
[4:23] <sogeking99> I saw a video of it being used as a snes emulator and other classic consoles. He claims setting up the controller was the hardest part
[4:24] <SpeedEvil> DooMMasteR: ah, a keep-warm reservoir on a combo?
[4:24] <DooMMasteR> SpeedEvil: yeah??? 6l or so
[4:24] <DooMMasteR> heats like a clockwork
[4:24] <AC`97> orange
[4:24] <SpeedEvil> you can pull so much out of that
[4:25] <DooMMasteR> the powermeter meters our local hackspace
[4:25] <DooMMasteR> SpeedEvil: http://stratum0.mooo.com:1178/index.php?time=168
[4:25] <DooMMasteR> the week
[4:25] <DooMMasteR> takes some time to load :P
[4:25] <SpeedEvil> ambient temp, fridge contents, fridge openings, lights
[4:25] <DooMMasteR> jepp
[4:26] <AC`97> DooMMasteR: i want sources.
[4:26] <SpeedEvil> even TV program you're watching
[4:26] <AC`97> i'm bored and want to optimize something :P
[4:26] <DooMMasteR> https://stratum0.org/wiki/SmartMeter german, bu should translate quite well
[4:27] <AC`97> everybody in my city has a smartmeter
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[4:28] <sogeking99> So it will cost me just ??40 for model of B and a clear case which is not bad at all. I'm familiar with many ubuntu variants, raspberry pi uses debian right?
[4:28] <AC`97> archlinux.
[4:29] <necr0tik> what will work with raspbmc to send audio over the network to another pc
[4:29] <elek> raspbian.. debian ya
[4:30] <DooMMasteR> necr0tik: pulseaudio
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[4:30] <sogeking99> Lol I got arch on virtual box, could never get wireless working though.
[4:31] <DooMMasteR> sogeking99: I got a lot better with newer kernels
[4:31] <DooMMasteR> WIreless is pretty much still bad but as long as the right HW is present it works quite well
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[4:32] <sogeking99> Yeah I plan to try again soon
[4:33] <sogeking99> It does not lack documentation that's for sure
[4:33] <DooMMasteR> I see the charm but am sticking with debian on servers
[4:33] <DooMMasteR> and OS X on my Notebook :P
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[4:35] <sogeking99> Yeah I won't touch it outside of a vm until I am competent with it
[4:36] <sogeking99> With pi, could I have two sd's, one with the media centre os and another with debian.
[4:36] <sogeking99> And swap them when ever I want?
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[4:37] <AC`97> yes.
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[4:38] <elek> compiling gmp on rpi.. soooo slow
[4:39] <sogeking99> Okay great, I have a few cards luckily.
[4:39] <sogeking99> So does anyone here program? What language would you suggest I start with?
[4:40] <elek> python i guess, i use mono because i'm a stubborn .net developer
[4:40] <sogeking99> I will be learning as a hobby, but I've always wanted to make a roguelike
[4:41] <DooMMasteR> C, C++ and Java??? Python a bit???Perl (HATE) and others
[4:41] <hybr1d8> python is a good starting language - and there is a lot of stuff out there for python coding on the pi
[4:41] <DooMMasteR> python is great
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[4:43] <sogeking99> Okay I will try to learn with python and pi
[4:44] <necr0tik> my raspbian is in spanish :(
[4:44] <necr0tik> Oh es-us lol thought en-us had been updated
[4:45] <DooMMasteR> gn8
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[4:50] <bcgrown> okay i'm an idiot and forgot my password... is there any way to recover it in raspbian beyond formatting the SD card and starting from scratch?
[4:51] <hybr1d8> yes - mount the card on your desktop/laptop
[4:51] <hybr1d8> then browse to /etc/shadow and wipe out the password crypt
[4:51] <sogeking99> Jesus 4am. I'm off, thanks for the help guys.
[4:51] * ka6sox-away is now known as ka6sox
[4:51] <hybr1d8> after that can login without password (so make sure to reset it via passwd right away ;) )
[4:52] <bcgrown> ...actually i'm REALLY an idiot. because i was trying to connect to the wrong IP address. and i actually stored the ssh key to my pi so i didn't even need the password
[4:53] <bcgrown> ...and i had the right password too. *fistpalm*
[4:54] <necr0tik> argh usb module keeps restarting on pi, getting annoppyed.
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[4:59] <necr0tik> ugh the raspbian mirror is to slow, and my ethernet dies before i can download stuff
[5:01] <atouk> wifi?
[5:01] <necr0tik> BS1238, USB chip keeps dieing
[5:01] <necr0tik> wanted to see if a firmware would fix it
[5:02] <atouk> probobly voltage
[5:02] <necr0tik> measured it. TP1 - TP2 4.75 avg but will go to 4.65 for a time
[5:02] <necr0tik> The green fuse dropped .05
[5:03] <necr0tik> Tried computer port and two phone cargers and the adafruit white oner
[5:03] <AC`97> necr0tik: perhaps your keyboard/mouse are draining too much power ?
[5:03] <necr0tik> no mouse, just a kb, and does it without it plugged in
[5:04] <AC`97> perhaps you need to make a tinfoil hat for it
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[5:04] <necr0tik> I was told the effects of the one I am wearing will properly transfer to my device.
[5:04] <atouk> only if you made it with the shiny side in
[5:06] <necr0tik> So all I got plugged in is the HDMI and the ethernet, no dice.
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[5:06] <atouk> 4.65 seems a bit low
[5:06] <AC`97> necr0tik: what if you didn't plug hdmi in?
[5:07] <necr0tik> That would be a little useless.
[5:07] <AC`97> perhaps your tv (if it's a tv) is drawing power from the port
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[5:07] <atouk> does your tv have a usb?
[5:07] <necr0tik> 24" Asus monitor, and I tried it on another tv ( girlfriends, shes REALLY pissed it doesnt work :( hates my pi now )
[5:07] <necr0tik> No neither does
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[5:08] <AC`97> psh, why would she hate it? it didn't even fry her tv
[5:08] <necr0tik> Well shes tired of waiting for me to fiddle with it, the cords, and the spaghetti f*** it looks like. If it worked meh, but it doesnt so its a pos.
[5:08] <AC`97> lol
[5:09] <necr0tik> Tried another hdmi cable still does it... I guess I can unplug the hdmi.
[5:09] <AC`97> it's probably faulty then. time for rma
[5:10] <necr0tik> Well shi...
[5:10] <necr0tik> Yea doing it with just ethernet.
[5:10] <necr0tik> I gotta ship it across the pond or something, be cheaper to get another lol
[5:10] <AC`97> did you try another distro ?
[5:11] <necr0tik> raspbmc, fail, i got the uhh raspbian one from the rasbpi main page, and its doing the same thing.
[5:11] <AC`97> also, i still think it's your power supply that inadequate
[5:11] <AC`97> i'll let you borrow my 200 amp power supply if you pay for shipping :]
[5:11] <necr0tik> Well I tried a computer usb port, and two seperate plugs. One of em came from adafruit saying it was a raspbi supply and is rated at like 1a
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[5:12] <atouk> are you measuring tp1 - tp2?
[5:12] <AC`97> ^ yes
[5:12] <necr0tik> yes.
[5:12] <necr0tik> roughly the same on all three plugs.
[5:13] <atouk> bad polyfuse?
[5:13] <necr0tik> checked it, .05 drop from 4.9 to 4.85
[5:14] <AC`97> perhaps you need a heatsink for it.
[5:14] <AC`97> https://picasaweb.google.com/103853333444314240950/RaspberryPi?authuser=0&authkey=Gv1sRgCLbrpZ7sjI_BVw
[5:14] <necr0tik> What gets hot on it?
[5:14] <AC`97> everything! :P
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[5:14] <AC`97> usb controller gets hotter than the cpu, i believe
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[5:14] <AC`97> or at least, in the old version it did
[5:14] <elek> not much gets hot, just the core but its still not terribly hot
[5:14] <necr0tik> Well its cool to the touch
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[5:15] <necr0tik> now its just mocking me 99% downloaded git-core
[5:15] <AC`97> mocky mocky
[5:16] <necr0tik> allied electronics, they are US yea
[5:17] <necr0tik> Its been awhile since I had it.
[5:17] <DeliriumTremens> i feel like im getting so close to getting this DOOR game to launch with dosbox, yet so far away -.-
[5:17] <necr0tik> Wonder if they will RMA it.
[5:18] <AC`97> how many days??
[5:18] <necr0tik> Uhm I think it shipped on 12/13
[5:18] <AC`97> when did you receive it?
[5:19] <necr0tik> 12/17
[5:19] <AC`97> fast :P
[5:19] <necr0tik> well 2-3 months before it shipped lol
[5:19] <necr0tik> I forgot I bought the damn thing.
[5:20] <AC`97> "Allied will accept Product returns only within 30 days of the date of delivery to Customer."
[5:20] <necr0tik> it took me 30 days to narrow it down to a RMA lol
[5:20] <AC`97> :|
[5:21] <necr0tik> The 35$ its not a big deal, but the 6 weeks wait time wont be cool. I should talk to my rep.
[5:21] <necr0tik> I heard its the 512mb module change that started the usb issue, wish they just gave me a working 256 one.
[5:22] <necr0tik> "Free upgrade!!"
[5:22] <AC`97> wanna trade? :P
[5:22] <necr0tik> It dont work :P
[5:22] <AC`97> it'll probably work for me
[5:22] <AC`97> i has beefy power supply
[5:22] <AC`97> either it works, or it elects a new pope
[5:22] <elek> im running my rev2 off my routers usb .. and overclocking no power issues
[5:22] <necr0tik> its not the PSU. I have a lab bench supply i built, with known good output, it wont work on that either.
[5:23] <elek> maybe you just got a bad one
[5:23] <AC`97> necr0tik: same voltage drop at tp1/2 ?
[5:23] <necr0tik> Is it a BS1238?
[5:23] <JakeSays> necr0tik: i waited 5 months for my two pi's from allied
[5:23] <necr0tik> AC`97, what about it?
[5:23] <elek> lemme go check
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[5:23] <necr0tik> yea near identical.
[5:23] <AC`97> necr0tik: with your "good" power supply, does voltage still drop down to ~4.6v ?
[5:24] <necr0tik> Actually I dont know if I probed it when i had that hooked up.
[5:24] <necr0tik> Just had the same issue.
[5:24] <AC`97> also, i built a variable power supply too :D
[5:24] <AC`97> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/5cliDU1Hff6xGNsM2OQC8vzav7zazmzHzxRYGjwDAIA?feat=directlink
[5:24] <AC`97> teehee
[5:25] <elek> no it wasnt
[5:26] <bcgrown> AC`97: I like the graphics. voltage ENNANCE!
[5:26] <necr0tik> elek: It said on the wiki describing my exact problem with the BS1238
[5:26] <AC`97> :P
[5:26] <necr0tik> yea dont know what ennance does but sounds wicked. Can u ennance to 11?
[5:26] <AC`97> mine goes up to 33 volts
[5:26] <AC`97> 4 amps
[5:26] <bcgrown> woah.. that's like.. 23 better.
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[5:27] <AC`97> or at least, my current one does. picture is old
[5:27] <AC`97> my new one is a switching step-down
[5:27] <elek> necr0tik: the white sticker on the back?
[5:28] <necr0tik> uhh there is a date marked neat the back where the ethernet would be
[5:28] <necr0tik> 12##
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[5:28] <necr0tik> near r42
[5:28] <elek> okay lemme go look again
[5:29] <AC`97> one time, i accidentally mixed up ground and vcc on my amplifier.
[5:29] <AC`97> https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/M0HE-V8eYJ89hNtjte57bPzav7zazmzHzxRYGjwDAIA?feat=directlink
[5:29] <AC`97> it went pop, elected a new pope, and stank up my room
[5:29] <necr0tik> what does electing a new pop involve?
[5:30] <necr0tik> pope*
[5:30] <AC`97> white smoke, i believe
[5:30] <necr0tik> Ahh not a catholice, thats part of the papal conclave, didnt connect the two.
[5:30] <AC`97> lol
[5:30] <necr0tik> mmm my favorite flavouir, catholice
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[5:31] <AC`97> it was my favorite amplifier too D:
[5:31] <elek> e234156
[5:31] <AC`97> so i replaced the chip.
[5:31] <AC`97> hardest thing i ever did in my life
[5:31] <elek> no idea if thats the right serial
[5:32] <elek> looks to be the serial for the audio controller
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[5:32] <necr0tik> so where does the raspbian put the firmware, is it stored on the soc or is it like on my flash card
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[5:32] <AC`97> sd card
[5:32] <AC`97> /boot/*
[5:33] <necr0tik> and how do i see that it took, get the firmware version
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[5:33] <AC`97> ^ ??
[5:33] <necr0tik> just check boot?
[5:33] <AC`97> uh... no clue
[5:33] <AC`97> lemme chceck
[5:33] <AC`97> i've seem to have lost my rpi, but it's still online o.o
[5:33] <AC`97> i have no clue where it is physically though
[5:34] <necr0tik> well if it DID take, the usb is still going out for a smoke every minute.
[5:34] <AC`97> /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd version
[5:34] <AC`97> mine is Sep 25 2012 00:17:37 / version 339133 (release)
[5:34] <AC`97> old stuff
[5:35] <elek> 00000000086cf62c is my serial from /proc/cpufino
[5:35] <AC`97> <- 00000000ac57664a
[5:36] <necr0tik> mine is feb 7
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[5:36] <necr0tik> 965ddeac
[5:36] <AC`97> newest firmware is feb 07
[5:36] <elek> hm, i just ordered mine to.. set it up a couple days ago
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[5:37] <necr0tik> well crap. So you think its a crummy powersupply? how many amps does it need, and how would i go about seeing if a properly spec'd powersupply is indeed sufficient for the pi
[5:37] <elek> link me to the wiki
[5:37] <bcgrown> AC`97: your 4 amp power supply doesn't have an adjustable current limit??
[5:37] <AC`97> build a load tester
[5:37] <AC`97> bcgrown: it does
[5:37] <elek> also it came from MCM
[5:37] <AC`97> two knobs :P
[5:37] <necr0tik> I don't have bomb making parts around. GF made me toss them.
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[5:38] <necr0tik> Her cat got a nasty suprise and we had to CPR it.
[5:38] <AC`97> my power supply is mostly used for testing car o2 sensor heaters
[5:38] <bcgrown> necr0tik: sometimes girlfriends know best. sometimes :)
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[5:38] <necr0tik> bcgrown, thats what we tell them atleast.
[5:39] <atouk> girlfriends DO know best! At least that's what i keep trying to tell my wife.
[5:39] <AC`97> atouk: how many girlfriends do you have? :P
[5:39] <bcgrown> atouk: and i bet you she tells you how smart HER girlfriends are all the time, right?
[5:39] <atouk> only one at a time
[5:39] <AC`97> ah. so one girlfriend, one wife
[5:39] <AC`97> kinky.
[5:40] * AC`97 hides
[5:40] <atouk> like socrates said. everyhing in moderation. morer than one of each is just woverdoing it
[5:40] <atouk> new keyboard. hate this thing
[5:41] <bcgrown> new keyboards are the worst. doesn't matter what you get, it's never as good as the old one
[5:42] <atouk> i want a wwireless version of teh original XT type
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[5:43] <necr0tik> I love my keyboard. Noisest sob. Brought it to class. Teacher requested I never bring it again.
[5:44] <necr0tik> beats my "free" dell server keyboard I had forever.
[5:45] <AC`97> how about a new $300 keyboard
[5:45] <elek> get a leopold if you can afford one, best kb
[5:45] <elek> ya im sure people are work feel the same thing about my cherry blue kb i use there
[5:45] <elek> CLACK CLACK CLACK
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[5:47] <AC`97> ...
[5:47] <necr0tik> im reading better tp1 tp2 now
[5:47] <AC`97> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOQLvz0dt24
[5:48] <necr0tik> 4.9 - 5.1
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[5:48] <AC`97> with what supply ?
[5:48] <necr0tik> With a powered usb hub, with the same usb cable, into the pi
[5:48] <necr0tik> not the wallwart
[5:48] <AC`97> ah i see
[5:49] <AC`97> no more usb resets ?
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[5:49] <necr0tik> still does it. I get them still. a few smsc95xx errors MII is busy in smsc95xx_mdio_read and error reading MII_ACCESS followed by USB disconnect, device number #
[5:49] <necr0tik> then a flood of usb and host mode messages
[5:50] <AC`97> sounds like ethernet
[5:50] <necr0tik> No ethernet plugged, still does it.
[5:50] <AC`97> awesome
[5:50] <AC`97> smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0: eth0: Failed to read register index 0x00000114
[5:50] <necr0tik> yea
[5:50] <AC`97> indeed.
[5:50] <necr0tik> i see that too
[5:50] <AC`97> i dont' XD
[5:51] <atouk> me neither
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[5:51] <AC`97> well, i see something else...
[5:51] <AC`97> http://ss.edited.us/130210205115.png
[5:51] <necr0tik> were did u see the smsc error
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[5:51] <AC`97> google, duh :P
[5:52] <AC`97> didn't you google it too ?
[5:52] <atouk> rtl wifi chipset until i switched to a wireless point that plugged into the rj45 because i needed the usb
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[5:53] <necr0tik> bunch of errors i see didnt pick that one
[5:53] <AC`97> oh
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[5:54] <AC`97> smsc95xx.turbo_mode=N ??
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[5:56] <necr0tik> Where does that go, and I noted that it does this without any ethernet plugged in.
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[5:56] <AC`97> /boot/cmdline.txt
[5:57] <necr0tik> trying it
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[5:57] <necr0tik> how do i see that it took
[5:58] <AC`97> cat /proc/cmdline
[5:58] <atouk> the errors go away?
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[5:58] * AC`97 is computer illiterate
[5:58] <necr0tik> i know how to re ad it, is there a way to see that the kernel ac tually read it
[5:58] <AC`97> cat /proc/cmdline
[5:59] <necr0tik> oh
[5:59] <necr0tik> i read /boot/cmdline.txt for some reasonm
[5:59] <AC`97> :P
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[6:02] <necr0tik> smsc95xx.turbo_mode=N
[6:03] <AC`97> fixed ??
[6:03] <necr0tik> u wish :)
[6:03] <AC`97> lol
[6:04] <necr0tik> rasp pi makes me depressed, they need to send pills with it.
[6:04] <AC`97> blue ones, or red?
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[6:04] <atouk> you kids play. walking dead time
[6:04] <necr0tik> blue.
[6:04] <AC`97> D: where?!?
[6:04] <necr0tik> Reality sucks with the rasp pi :(
[6:05] <atouk> someplace called teh pirate bay sent me a copy
[6:05] <AC`97> ...
[6:05] <AC`97> atouk: gimme link :P
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[6:16] <necr0tik> okj giving up for now
[6:16] <necr0tik> Does anyplace let bestbuy/radioshack/frys have decent micro usb power supplys, what am i looking for.
[6:17] <AC`97> uh.. i thought you had a lab power supply o.o
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[6:17] <necr0tik> well it may be the cable i guess.
[6:17] <necr0tik> And its not like I can bring that to my GF's
[6:17] <necr0tik> Everything im reading says PS.
[6:17] <AC`97> indeed.
[6:18] <necr0tik> I don't think it is but might as well get a good one.
[6:18] <AC`97> connect your power supply directly to gpio ground and +5v
[6:18] <necr0tik> 5v 1a?
[6:18] <AC`97> i use a 5v 3a stepdown
[6:18] <AC`97> with a 12v source
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[6:19] <necr0tik> Ill mess with it tmw. not interested in dicking with it anymore tonite.
[6:19] <AC`97> it's only 21:19 :P
[6:19] * AC`97 is in the past
[6:19] <necr0tik> 5 hours of bashing my head into the wall is all i can do
[6:20] <AC`97> well, at least you didn't bash the rpi into the wall
[6:20] <AC`97> it's a lot more delicate :P
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[6:21] <necr0tik> ugh i dont want to go to UCI tmw.
[6:21] <AC`97> what is UCI? Ultra Cool Internets ?
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[6:22] <necr0tik> University of California: Irvine
[6:22] <AC`97> oh. iknewthat
[6:22] <necr0tik> Trying to find a copy of Integrative and Comparative Biology
[6:22] <AC`97> would you like to trade RPis there? :]
[6:22] <necr0tik> lol you local?
[6:23] <AC`97> not really
[6:23] <AC`97> but it's only like 4-5 hours away :P
[6:23] <AC`97> ...if i break the speed limit
[6:23] <necr0tik> heh no but u can torture mine until it works
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[6:23] <AC`97> lol
[6:24] <boakun> anyone recommend a case for the rpi
[6:24] <necr0tik> there is this DOPE aluminum one from that place with the ceo with the red hair.
[6:24] <AC`97> boakun: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Raspberry-Pi-Case-with-Raspberry-Pi-Logo-Billet-Aluminum-for-use-with-Model-B-/110995929762
[6:24] <AC`97> ^ ?
[6:24] <boakun> not bad
[6:25] <boakun> im also eyeing this up;
[6:25] <boakun> http://www.etsy.com/listing/93162730/bramble-pi-raspberry-pi-laser-cut-finger?
[6:25] <boakun> way cheaper
[6:25] <necr0tik> adafruit has it.
[6:25] <AC`97> and way less heat dissipation
[6:25] <boakun> well its wood
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[6:25] <boakun> im not speding $75 on a case
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[6:25] <AC`97> i wouldn't even spend $8 on a case
[6:25] <boakun> ya
[6:25] <boakun> that case is just metal
[6:25] <AC`97> i made my own :P
[6:25] <boakun> why its so much money
[6:25] <boakun> pic?
[6:26] <boakun> i made my own out of plastic too
[6:26] <necr0tik> I spent 5$ on one allied electronics recomended and it sucked crap and broke in 2 seconds.
[6:26] <AC`97> rmm
[6:26] <necr0tik> I got a 2500$ printer to print a 3$ case.
[6:26] <boakun> http://www.ethicalwebsites.co.uk/blog/raspberrypi/index_files/raspberry-pi-case-part2.php
[6:26] <AC`97> boakun: https://plus.google.com/photos/103853333444314240950/albums/5776023485769817201?authkey=CLbrpZ7sjI_BVw
[6:27] <boakun> not bad
[6:28] <boakun> whered you get that plastic
[6:28] <AC`97> a cheap tool set
[6:29] <boakun> http://www.ethicalwebsites.co.uk/blog/raspberrypi/index_files/rpi_10.jpg
[6:29] <ParkerR> AC`97, Makes me feel bad about this now http://imgur.com/a/oL7Ay
[6:29] <AC`97> O.o
[6:29] <AC`97> lol @ corners
[6:30] <ParkerR> Hehe
[6:30] <boakun> ParkerR, hows the heat disperation
[6:30] <ParkerR> Not much worse than normal with no airflow
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[6:30] <boakun> honlesty no case is needed
[6:30] <ParkerR> ^
[6:30] <boakun> i just velcor'd mine behind my tv
[6:30] <boakun> out of sight
[6:30] <boakun> and a long ir imitter
[6:31] <ParkerR> Currently my Pi is http://i.minus.com/iI1QnllhXex4t.JPG
[6:31] <ParkerR> http://i.minus.com/iQXy1aNQLHMgO.JPG
[6:31] * AC`97 gasps
[6:31] <AC`97> no fuse!~
[6:32] <ParkerR> ?
[6:32] <AC`97> ohwait
[6:32] <AC`97> no power :P
[6:32] <ParkerR> AC`97, Backpowering through the USB port
[6:32] <boakun> id put in a fuse
[6:32] <ParkerR> Model B rev 2
[6:32] <AC`97> ooh
[6:32] <xcadaverx> I have a question reguarding rasp pi xbmc (or similar program like ampache etc.). I am going to be setting up xbmc on my raspberry pi as my main media center. I know there is a web interface that allows you to control the xbmc via web. however, is there a way to get this interface (or interface that will use the same metadata/setup.) to stream straight to the browser/ios device? i basically want to have xbmc's nice layout of movies in
[6:33] <boakun> im unsure what you want
[6:33] <ParkerR> xcadaverx, Not at the moment. There arent any web interfaces that let you stream to the web
[6:33] <ParkerR> Most cases that would require transcoding on the deivce
[6:33] <ParkerR> Which the Pi would not be able to handle
[6:33] <xcadaverx> i basically want an xbmc media server that i can also access via http on the road that will basically serve me the raw .mpg file to my browser, but via a nice, tidy interface
[6:34] <AC`97> apache.
[6:34] <AC`97> enable directory listings :P
[6:34] <xcadaverx> but, thats ugly, and doesnt have the nice metadata, and times, and genres, and goodies.
[6:34] <boakun> http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/Legopi-580x386.jpg
[6:34] <boakun> xD
[6:34] <xcadaverx> I was hoping there was something that already existed that enabled this on a xmbc directory/drive
[6:35] <AC`97> http://cdn-static.zdnet.com/i/r/story/70/00/004209/original/raspberry-pi-supercomputer-1-620x465.jpg
[6:35] <boakun> haha
[6:36] <ParkerR> :D High res http://www.southampton.ac.uk/~sjc/raspberrypi/pi_pictures_files/raspberry%20pi%20supercomputer%206.jpg
[6:37] <ParkerR> http://www.southampton.ac.uk/~sjc/raspberrypi/pi_pictures.htm
[6:37] <boakun> are they pooling them?
[6:37] <AC`97> arrrrgh too high res D:<
[6:38] <AC`97> my flac stream is stuttering
[6:38] <ParkerR> AC`97, Haha
[6:38] <boakun> flac should play okay
[6:38] <boakun> i think i like this case
[6:38] <boakun> http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/desktoppi.jpg
[6:38] <AC`97> i think that case is too bulky and wastes space :P
[6:38] <boakun> do you like a 50 sq foot apartment?
[6:39] <AC`97> i like mine the best. packed with relays :P
[6:39] <AC`97> and a buzzer
[6:39] <boakun> heh
[6:39] <AC`97> and an ir receiver
[6:39] <ParkerR> Thinking about ordering another Pi so I can try to build the one I have into or attach it to the lapdock
[6:39] <boakun> did oyu see the cig box one
[6:39] <AC`97> er, no clue..
[6:39] <boakun> http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/cigarettecase.jpg
[6:40] <AC`97> oh.. in that case, yep.
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[6:40] <boakun> http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/goldenpi007.jpg
[6:40] <Tabaliah> poor begged could only afford the A model because he was too broke after buying smokes . . .
[6:41] <AC`97> Tabaliah: i believe that's only for power input
[6:42] <Tabaliah> :)
[6:42] <clueful> i'm having a problem where the pi crashes after a few minutes when an ext hdd is attached (it has a separate power supply), I believe its ok without the drive...any advice?
[6:42] <clueful> I tried googling but didn't find a conclusive answer yet
[6:43] <AC`97> clueful: what errors do you get ??
[6:43] <Tabaliah> clueful - did you try and external hub?
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[6:43] <clueful> don't have an ext. hub, but I figured it shouldn't be necessary as the drive already has a power supply, and its a relatively short cable...I can buy one of course
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[6:44] <clueful> AC'97: where should I look
[6:44] <AC`97> "journalctl -f" in a terminal, BEFORE the crash
[6:44] <AC`97> and monitor it.
[6:45] <clueful> AC'97 journalctl doesn't seem to exist and isn't found by apt-get
[6:45] <AC`97> oh
[6:45] <AC`97> tail -f /var/log/messages*
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[6:46] <AC`97> or uh.. i believe that's where kernel messages go to
[6:46] * AC`97 is computer illiterate and has no clue
[6:46] <AC`97> clueful: run that, and see if you get any new messages when you plug in a usb device
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[6:47] <ParkerR> robably just drawing too much power
[6:47] <ParkerR> *Probably
[6:47] <ParkerR> Even though externally powered
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[6:47] <ParkerR> It still plls ower from USB
[6:48] <AC`97> i put on my robe and wizard hat
[6:48] <ParkerR> *pullls power
[6:48] <clueful> ParkerR: could be I guess, is there some kernel message that is an indicator that you crashed due to a power problem
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[6:48] <ParkerR> clueful, Usaully the symptons are: plug in USB device, resets Pi :P
[6:49] <GabrialDestruir> How long has it been possible to make a PIratebox? >.>
[6:49] <ParkerR> Pi-ratebox
[6:49] <ParkerR> Ever since host mode on wifi adapters? :P
[6:49] <clueful> ParkerR: well in this case I had it plugged in at boot...it boots it mounts, and I can see files on the drive, but after not too long it crashes
[6:49] <ParkerR> clueful, Oh weird
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[6:50] <GabrialDestruir> I didn't realize there'd been setups made for it though.
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[6:52] <clueful> ParkerR: board is a bit warm but not crazy warm
[6:53] <clueful> it's also pretty slow to mount though it does do so eventually
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[6:58] <clueful> is there a way to check the firmware version?
[6:58] <ParkerR> clueful, uname -a
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[7:00] <GabrialDestruir> I wanted to get piratebox running on my spare android device .-. but the paw server plugin refused to install. lol Guess I'll try a PI method.
[7:00] <GabrialDestruir> Can running a TP-Link TL-WN722N without a powered hub damage the Pi? >.>
[7:01] <clueful> is overheating a common problem with rpi's?
[7:01] <Triffid_Hunter> clueful: mine's been running for weeks, gets a little warm but that's it
[7:03] <clueful> Triffid_Hunter: i'm sure it can be fine, but just wondering if it was sensitive like with the power supply issues that many people have
[7:03] <Triffid_Hunter> clueful: I hooked a 5v 2A tablet charger into the GPIO port, have had zero power issues so far, but also haven't been plugging much into the usb ports either
[7:04] <GabrialDestruir> I've seen my Pi's get up to 50 or 60c but I don't think I've seen them get close to the 80c cutoff
[7:04] <boakun> ditto
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[7:08] <GabrialDestruir> I mean... I suppose it's possible. Environment and stuff.
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[7:09] <boakun> loving this low cpu load
[7:09] <boakun> 21% idle
[7:09] <GabrialDestruir> But if there's decent ventilation most likely isn't going to be an issue.
[7:09] <GabrialDestruir> xD
[7:09] <boakun> i put ram sinks on my chips
[7:09] <boakun> to disperse the heat better
[7:09] <GabrialDestruir> I want one of those aluminum cases.... lol
[7:09] <boakun> lol too much money
[7:12] <boakun> http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/goldenpi007.jpg
[7:12] <boakun> ill take that
[7:15] <ParkerR> Haha
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[7:23] <GabrialDestruir> That's just epic xD
[7:23] <boakun> indeed
[7:26] <krosis> I Was thinking about gutting my old SNES to load up a pi with an emulator..
[7:26] <boakun> heh
[7:27] <krosis> was thinking about turning the old SNES cartridges into battery packs
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[7:30] <GabrialDestruir> I should design a lego Pi case to account for my battery pack and my wireless adapter so I can have an all in one Piratebox type thing >.>
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[7:45] <clueful> made sure I was at lowest clock speed and ran rpi-update and it seems to be working ok (up for 30 min or so)
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[7:50] <clueful> btw if I want to expose my pi to the public internet, do I need to do anything to secure it other than change the default password
[7:51] <Macer> wrap it in tin foil
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[8:11] <mdik> clueful: depending on how sensitive the informatino on it is, you may want to restrict the access which can be gained via ssh to a user which is not called "pi"
[8:11] <boakun> i recommend tinfoil
[8:12] <mdik> as a username?
[8:12] <boakun> yes
[8:13] <mdik> why not
[8:13] <boakun> also wrap the pi in tinfoil
[8:13] <clueful> boakun: sounds like good advice
[8:13] <boakun> indeed
[8:13] <boakun> tinfoil@notpi
[8:14] <clueful> do you know what the default user/pass is for mysql
[8:15] <boakun> https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/282635_10151303478669405_806880619_n.jpg
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[8:45] <savagecroc> hi
[8:45] <savagecroc> at a hardware level, how many concurrent pulse inputs do you think a pi could cope with?
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[9:06] <SixtyFold> http://www.amazon.com/Apex/e/B001LH7DD8/digital/ref=ntt_mp3_rdr?_encoding=UTF8&sn=d
[9:06] <SixtyFold> pierut - http://www.amazon.com/Apex/e/B001LH7DD8/digital/ref=ntt_mp3_rdr?_encoding=UTF8&sn=d
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[9:11] <mdik> boakun: the pi is an educational device, isn't it? why shouldn't basic principles of computer security be part of the curriculum?
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[9:12] <boakun> i never said they shouldnt
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[9:12] <Jck_true> mdik: The default password? Or that the pi user has sudo enabled by default?
[9:14] <mdik> Jck_true: it is good practice to not expose a device with an easily guessable username to the internet
[9:15] <Jck_true> mdik: What else would you do?
[9:15] <rm> why would you expose SSH with PasswordAuthentication enabled
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[9:15] <rm> to the internet
[9:15] <rm> at ll
[9:15] <mdik> creating a new user which is not named "pi"
[9:15] <rm> at all*
[9:16] <Jck_true> mdik: And for the guys running it as a headless server?
[9:16] <Jck_true> For writing documention
[9:17] <Jck_true> It's sadly a compromise - Convinience vs security...
[9:17] <mdik> Jck_true: if it is not exposed to the internet, it is not that important. but, just out of good practice, i would _always_ change the default password (so it will become a habit)
[9:18] <mdik> Jck_true: it always is. luckily most internetboxes have NAT and have explicitly be configured so the SSH port is exposed.
[9:19] <Jck_true> I agree... sadly there's been a few UPNP exploits lately... where external code can trigger UPNP port requests from a client machine...
[9:19] <Jck_true> UNPN
[9:20] <Jck_true> UPNP
[9:20] <Jck_true> UPnP
[9:20] <Jck_true> I knew something was wrong...
[9:20] <mdik> i see. so the advice to change the default password is even more adviced
[9:22] <Jck_true> mdik: Should be part of the MOTD... "You haven't changed the default password please do so by running `passwd`"
[9:22] <mdik> Jck_true: but actually the more secure mechanism that rm proposed, namely using keypairs, is the most convenient (:
[9:25] <Jck_true> mdik: I'm 24 and I barely understand keypairs :D Good luck teaching it to kids half my age :D
[9:26] <mdik> Jck_true: well that has to be understood is running a command from the commandline and then editing a textfile
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[9:26] <mdik> i know, it is not as straight forward as typing "passwd" but still not too difficult
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[9:29] <Jck_true> Downloading/Uploading the key file... I dunno - But I still have to vote that having a default username/password is the best allround solution
[9:29] <rm> Jck_true, very simple http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/ssh-public-key-based-authentication-how-to.html
[9:30] <mdik> a default password is like having no password at all
[9:31] <Jck_true> rm: Yeah I know how todo it - Just discussing how usefull it is for teaching aspects
[9:33] <mdik> i would make it a statement/paragraph like "before 'startx' type 'passwd' to change your user password. that way you pi will be save when you hook it up to the internet."
[9:34] <Fudge> what about a motd
[9:34] <mdik> i wouldn't mind at all (:
[9:35] <mdik> /etc/motd.tail is still so short (;
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[9:35] <Fudge> is there a limit to it?
[9:37] <Fudge> raspbian kernel=vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-rpi
[9:37] <Fudge> and no sound, anyone know why?
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[9:50] <wr> Hi there. I just started using my Raspberry Pi recently, and wrote a small Python web app for reporting. The source code is here: https://github.com/willroberts/berrystats
[9:50] <boakun> nice
[9:51] <wr> I thought you guys might like it.
[9:51] <wr> Feel free to fork/clone the code and play with it, maybe you'll think of something cool.
[9:51] <boakun> lol my repo doesnt have git installed
[9:51] <boakun> and i cant install it
[9:51] <wr> which distro?
[9:52] <boakun> openelec
[9:52] <wr> haven't heard of it, i'll look it up
[9:52] <boakun> http://openelec.tv/
[9:52] <wr> that looks great
[9:52] <boakun> i like to think so
[9:53] <boakun> my rpi idles at 25% cpu load
[9:53] <wr> not bad
[9:54] <wr> what's load/usage while playing hd content?
[9:54] <boakun> my rpi is also oc'd
[9:54] <boakun> not sure
[9:54] <boakun> it plays 1080p mkvs though
[9:54] <wr> awesome
[9:54] <boakun> over smb
[9:54] <wr> also awesome
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[9:54] <boakun> http://sprunge.us/XJLO
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[9:56] <Kasreyn> q2on: you asked about panels.. "raw LCD Panels via DSI" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi
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[9:58] <Kasreyn> and I still have a problem.. the RPi enters sleep mode? (only red no green/yellow LED on), is this normal? I use OpenELEC-RPi.arm-2.99.1. have tried on two different RPis with same SD card, both enters sleep..
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[10:00] <martk100> Has anyone managed to get xbmc running on Archlinux?
[10:00] <boakun> what made you use arch
[10:01] <martk100> boakun: only Arch has easystroke. I want to use this.
[10:01] <boakun> whats easystroke
[10:02] <martk100> boakun: It is a gesture recognition program. I am using my pi on 10 inch screen with touchscreen.
[10:02] <boakun> ah
[10:03] <boakun> cant you just clone the git for another distro?
[10:03] <john_f> martk100: lib error?
[10:03] <boakun> anyway i dont see why xbmc wouldnt run on iot
[10:03] <john_f> just a glibc bug
[10:03] <john_f> if it hasn't been corrected today
[10:04] <nid0> Kasreyn: you probably have a power issue
[10:04] <martk100> john_f: Lots of dependency problems. I sorted all those out but still xbmc would not run. Some error about not being able to create ground.
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[10:05] <martk100> nid0: NO problem with power.
[10:05] <john_f> uh, pastbin it?
[10:05] <nid0> martk100: ?
[10:05] <martk100> nid0: Sorry I thought you were replying to me.
[10:05] <nid0> nop, Kasreyn asked a question just before you joined
[10:06] <martk100> john_f: I am going out soon. Will you be around later.
[10:06] <john_f> maybe
[10:06] <john_f> probably
[10:07] <martk100> john_f: Ok i will pastebin the crashlog and come in here then. Thanks.
[10:07] <Kasreyn> nid0: how do you mean? do you mean as in the board is glitchy or as in my PSU is ?
[10:08] <nid0> Kasreyn: most likely your psu isnt supplying a decent consistent supply of power. I say this because the pi does not *have* a "sleep" or "standby" mode, if the red light is on but none others are and the pi is not responsive, its because its crashed or off
[10:08] <Kasreyn> i switched of CEC just in case..
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[10:09] <Kasreyn> fine if it crashes. then it's probably software issue :)
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[10:11] <Kasreyn> but makes me wonder, there's not a watchdog reset function?
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[10:12] <Kasreyn> actually.. don't think i had this problem on different monitor + PSU
[10:13] <nid0> Kasreyn: there is, whether it's enabled on your system depends on whether you've set it up
[10:13] <nid0> the pi has a hardware watchdog, its module needs to be enabled then it needs to be used with something, usually watchdog
[10:15] <Kasreyn> or .. that i have remote relay power off when i go to bed. i have noticed this a couple of times replugging power to the RPi, red LED will be on but doesn't start reading from SD
[10:17] <Kasreyn> don't mind having it always powered on
[10:17] <Kasreyn> just happened that way
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[11:46] <Tachyon`> here's a question
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[11:46] <Tachyon`> how do I get rid of the incredibly annoying clicks when the analogue audio out is used?
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[11:46] <Tachyon`> IE: Click, requested sound, Click, as the subsystem turns on and off or w/e
[11:47] <mgottschlag> I think updating the firmware helps a bit
[11:49] <Tachyon`> it's up to date, was updated last night, still
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[11:49] <Tachyon`> may be no way around it
[11:50] <Tachyon`> although turning the audio output on all the time might help
[11:50] <Tachyon`> instead of just when needed
[11:51] <Jck_true> Tachyon`: Or buy a $2 USB soundcard
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[11:52] <Tachyon`> ...
[11:52] <ryanteck> Hey
[11:52] <Tachyon`> yes, let's hang additional hardware off the side because what I paid for isn't working properly
[11:52] <Tachyon`> oh wait, let's not
[11:52] <ryanteck> 0.o?
[11:52] <Tachyon`> ah, someone suggested I bought a soundcard to fix a pi audio issue
[11:53] <ryanteck> Well it is constantly in development
[11:53] <Tachyon`> that's a giant copout, anywya, I know it can be fixed in softare, lol
[11:53] <Viper-7> Tachyon`: the pi doesnt have a real audio codec
[11:53] <ryanteck> It just takes time
[11:53] * Tachyon` blinks
[11:54] <ryanteck> The foundation have been very busy lately from Model A launch
[11:54] <Viper-7> the analog audio is basically just digital pwm, so yes theres a nasty dc bias when its active, and no its not great quality
[11:55] <Viper-7> if you want decent quality audio you pretty much either have to use HDMI, or add a usb sound card
[11:55] <Tachyon`> well, the quality is okay, it's the clicking when it comes on/off
[11:55] <Tachyon`> I'm just using it with festival for speech synthesis
[11:55] <Tachyon`> although festival has no english women
[11:55] <Tachyon`> haven't these people ever watched star trek?
[11:56] <Tachyon`> if a computer speaks it should be with a female voice, ideally a voice that was once married to gene rodenberry
[11:56] <Viper-7> you could try using something like MPD, such that the output is always active
[11:57] <Tachyon`> yeah, I'm wondering if htere's some way to force the output active (or at least prevent it going inactive at the end)
[11:57] <Viper-7> i dont think you can directly with alsa
[11:57] <Tachyon`> no, I suspected I'd have to edit and rebiuld something
[11:57] <Viper-7> and jack doesnt play well on the pi
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[12:00] <ryanteck> It is one of the things which is noted as an issue
[12:01] <ryanteck> but at the end of the day the Pi's primary purpose of being and educational tool is not affected and most media uses use the HDMI port
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[12:01] <Viper-7> such a cop-out
[12:01] <ryanteck> Well it isn't designed for a multimedia center
[12:01] <Viper-7> i liked that with the i2c driver
[12:01] <Viper-7> some random config file has a line disabling it, with a tiny comment saying `most people dont need this`
[12:02] <Viper-7> heaps handy
[12:02] <Viper-7> has the raspberry pi team done a single survey to see how people ACTUALLY use their devices?
[12:02] <ryanteck> They know how people use them
[12:02] <Viper-7> as opposed to making faulty assumption after faulty assumption? :P
[12:03] <ryanteck> The adafruit distribution is designed for electronics stuff
[12:03] <ryanteck> and is designed for i2c I think
[12:03] <mjr> the clicking thing does sound like something that should be possible to fix easily enough if only by keeping it optionally constantly active
[12:03] <Viper-7> it is, but its out of date compared to the official raspbian distro
[12:03] <Viper-7> i2c was easy enough to enable, once discovering the silly line disabling it
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[12:20] <Fudge> cant load sound module on 3.2 raspbian kernel, help plz/.
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[12:32] <gordonDrogon> it's normally loaded at boot time.
[12:32] <gordonDrogon> does lsmod | fgrep snd give you any output?
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[12:36] <Fudge> oh yeah it is loaded
[12:36] <Fudge> but when playing sound hangs
[12:36] <Fudge> but using embedded firmware and not this 3.2 kernel sound works
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[12:37] <Fudge> gordonDrogon bit puzzling
[12:38] <Fudge> so aplay file or alsamixer everything hangs
[12:39] <Fudge> 3.2.0-4-rpi
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[12:41] <Fudge> or pulse problem?
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[12:44] <gordonDrogon> no idea. I'm mote really a 'media' person.
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[12:46] <Fudge> Tachyon` loL
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[12:47] <Fudge> thanks gordonDrogon
[12:47] <Fudge> Tachyon` what speech are you using?
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[13:18] <blipblop> Anyone here have experience diagnosing "no longer working" raspberrypis?
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[13:24] <aDro> No longer working usually means it was physically damaged or electrocuted.
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[13:28] <blipblop> Well, have had it for almost a year. Shipped some server code to it for monitoring, and connecting with PC client occaisionally - all good. Left it unditurbed for last 3 months then successfully SSHed into it. "top" would run but nothing returned, could back out of top and same with other unrelated commands.
[13:29] <ryanteck> Possibly overheat?
[13:29] <blipblop> I pulled power plug and restarted it, hoping that would fix it. Now i have only red power LED. the green OK led flickers during a presumably failed boot for 20 secs then nothing
[13:29] <SpeedEvil> have you replaced the SD?
[13:29] <SpeedEvil> or at least checked the filesystem on another system
[13:29] <blipblop> I've pulled and replaced all connectors plus SD
[13:30] <blipblop> SD card looks fine, can see 13 files on there
[13:30] <ryanteck> Have you got a spare sd card / another one you can image
[13:31] <blipblop> can try that, but SD card appears fine. Do you think its file content are corrupted?
[13:31] <ryanteck> possibly
[13:31] <ryanteck> when was it last flashed?
[13:31] <blipblop> 6 months ago
[13:31] <ryanteck> Ahh
[13:31] <ryanteck> The latest image will definatly be an improvement
[13:32] <blipblop> Arch linux
[13:32] <ryanteck> oh
[13:32] <ryanteck> Hmm
[13:32] <ryanteck> not sure then
[13:32] <ryanteck> never really used arch
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[13:32] <blipblop> looks like its been updated too: archlinux-hf-2013-01-22.zip
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[13:35] <ryanteck> I would say try that blipblop and then tell us your results
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[13:57] <Kriss3d> Hi. Ive searched high and low. I need measurements (preferbly blueprints) for a basic raspberry pi model b case. It seems there isnt any released.. do anyone know of any place or got any plans for a case ? im thinking of cutting one in acrylic
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[14:00] <cityLights> hi all
[14:00] <cityLights> how to halt if the SD is removed?
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[14:01] <Armand> Kriss3d, What are the dimensions of the Raspberry Pi?
[14:01] <Armand> The Raspberry Pi measures 85.60mm x 56mm x 21mm, with a little overlap for the SD card and connectors which project over the edges. It weighs 45g.
[14:01] <Armand> http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs
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[14:02] <Kriss3d> Armand Im aware of that but then there is the exact posisions of each plug + the SD card and such. Also the thickness of the case to ensure your wireplugs can reach the plugs..
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[14:02] <Kriss3d> im quite capable of measuring just X * Y* Z dimentions. its all the other stuff im searching for.
[14:03] <Armand> Do you have an rPi ?
[14:04] <Kriss3d> yeah i do.. i just cant seem to get measurements correctly. I mean.. I cant be the first to want to make a case..
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[14:04] <Armand> Well, no.. as there are LOTS of options out there.
[14:04] <Armand> Hold on
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[14:06] <nid0> Kriss3d: there are about a million pi case designs up on thingverse and similar
[14:06] <Kriss3d> nid0 yes ive seen but nowhere does any of them have measurements.
[14:07] <nid0> uh? theyre all sets of cad files which have all the exact dimensions for the cases
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[14:08] <Kriss3d> hmm ive only found .STL files which has no measurements
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[14:09] <Armand> I was looking for the Pibow plans, but I'm stumped..
[14:09] <Armand> Don't really have the time, as I have to get ready for work.
[14:11] <Kriss3d> its ok. ill write to one of the guys who made a nice case in thingiverse.
[14:11] <Kriss3d> thanks though :)
[14:11] <Armand> .o/
[14:11] <ryanteck> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=4402 looks handy
[14:11] <ryanteck> ;)
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[14:12] <Kriss3d> Ah that looks promising.. Thanks ryanteck
[14:13] <Armand> ryanteck, you the man!
[14:13] <ryanteck> No problem
[14:13] <Kriss3d> Ohhh.. SolidWorks files.. me gusta....
[14:13] <ryanteck> took a while to google but thats about it
[14:14] <Kriss3d> I happen to work where they are teaching SolidWorks..
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[14:16] <ryanteck> cool
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[14:41] <jakeri> :/
[14:42] <jakeri> damn it's annoying that nnscript doesn't have auto auth for freenode
[14:42] <Tachyon`> anyone know if CPCs assembled gertboards include the GPIO cable or do I need to buy one seperately
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[14:46] <DeliriumTremens> so damn close, but so far away ;_;
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[15:10] <ryanteck> Minecraft for Raspberry Pi is now out!
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[15:12] <double-you> whats the name of the terminal application where I can see the wifi networks and connect to them?
[15:14] <Jayface> iwlist
[15:14] <fperkins> really?
[15:14] <fperkins> beyond alpha?
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[15:15] <double-you> Jayface: thanks, but it was a bit more graphical
[15:16] <Jayface> lol dont know, thats a generic linux tool
[15:16] <fperkins> very cool: http://pi.minecraft.net/
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[15:18] <ryanteck> Fully released I think
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[15:20] <fperkins> look like it in the downloads. Any insight if it has the same feature set as the pocket edition for iOS?
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[15:31] <Weaselweb> fperkins: http://pi.minecraft.net/?page_id=14
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[15:33] <jrtappers> I am having trouble recompiling the kernel for compatability with an eGalax touchscreen
[15:33] <IT_Sean> Morning
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[15:36] <jrtappers> I run the compile instructions but don't get a /arch/arm folder
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[15:37] <blipblop> re my enquiry at 12:18 about not working raspberry pi....
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[15:38] <blipblop> I downloaded latest raspian image and put it on another sd card and loaded up with my telly attached. Worked fine, but after a while crashed with a "unable to handle kernel null pointer dereference at virtual address" and kdb stack trace
[15:39] <SpeedEvil> hmm
[15:39] <DDave> sd card error perhaps?
[15:39] <SpeedEvil> try changing power supply
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[15:40] <blipblop> I though I might as well put in my Arch linux card that I was using before, and it can't boot. With that one I get error: "Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(179,2)
[15:40] <jrtappers> I am having trouble recompiling the kernel for compatability with an eGalax touchscreen. I run the compile instructions but don't get a /arch/arm folder
[15:41] <blipblop> Also, I have a cat5 cable attached to my switch and get no indication from the switch that anything is attached at all.
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[15:50] <blipblop> perhaps power supply. can't get kb going on it. This time booting with raspbian and after plugging in usb kb, I get 4 leds illuminated constantly, with only the OK led off. Also, my switch shows the rpi port lit up but does not show it as an attached device via the switch admin site
[15:51] <blipblop> the led situation is different from last time I booted raspbian before, also - no crash. I'm at the Raspi-config screen now, but with no kb hehe
[15:52] <blipblop> strange how I get different behaviour like that
[15:52] <Davespice> blipblop: check the power consumption of the keyboard, is it 100 mA or higher?
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[15:52] <Davespice> I had a 125 mA one once which game me all kinds of wierd behaviour
[15:53] <blipblop> kb says 100mA
[15:53] <blipblop> its a Dell L100 model
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[15:54] <Davespice> okay, is that the only USB device connected?
[15:54] <blipblop> I get no leds lighting up on the keyboard when I plug it into raspi socket
[15:54] <blipblop> yes, only the kb connected in USB
[15:55] <Davespice> oh really, even if you press num lock a few times?
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[15:55] <blipblop> let me try
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[15:55] <blipblop> no leds on KB at all, no matter what I press, including numlock
[15:56] <dRbiG> I'd argue that a powered usb hub is a must have
[15:56] <blipblop> yep
[15:56] <blipblop> I dont have one yet tho
[15:56] <blipblop> its been fine so far without
[15:57] <Davespice> hmm
[15:57] <blipblop> I normally use the raspi as a headless server
[15:57] <dRbiG> i'm thinking about general experimentation :) your use case may differ
[15:57] <Davespice> is there another keyboard you could try?
[15:57] <blipblop> and use putty to configure, etc
[15:57] <blipblop> yep, that one is also 100mA
[15:57] <blipblop> logitech cheapo job
[15:57] <Davespice> just try that, and watch the boot up output to see if the name of the device is traced out or not
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[16:04] <blipblop> wow its ALIVE (sorry)
[16:05] <blipblop> thanks Dave, I can boot it up with both KBs as long as I plug then in whilst power is off. Is this expected behaviour?
[16:05] <FrankBlues> :D
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[16:05] <blipblop> SSH is working now too, can connect that way fine too.
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[16:06] <Davespice> blipblop: I usually always connect them before turning power on
[16:07] <blipblop> ok, I'll remember to do that from now on - wasnt expecting that
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[16:07] <Davespice> I have found usb device hot plugging to work okay too, certainly have done it with mouse, but never keyboard come to think of it
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[16:08] <blipblop> its wierd that before (a few mins ago) i got kernal panics etc, and now its all good
[16:08] <blipblop> wonder whats up wit hthat
[16:08] <discorpia> bl heat?
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[16:08] <blipblop> "bl" is what?
[16:08] <discorpia> blipblop: heat or current overdraw
[16:09] <discorpia> bl^I actually, bl+escaped tab
[16:09] <discorpia> why irssi escaped it i have no clue
[16:09] <blipblop> on the raspi itself or do you suspect power supply?
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[16:10] <discorpia> blipblop: depends on what things you have attached and how many amps the power supply is rated for
[16:10] <pronto> http://raspberry.bagels.xxx/templog.php lolwow, that's quite the temp raise xD
[16:10] <blipblop> my power supply is one I have found to work, its a Rio MP3 USB charger from 2001
[16:11] <blipblop> I have attached: HDMI, Cat5, KB, USB power. thats it
[16:12] <sadbox> what's the mah rating?
[16:12] <blipblop> yes, might not be quite up to spec there...
[16:12] <blipblop> max 0.2A
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[16:12] <blipblop> raspi needs how many amps?
[16:12] <sadbox> That's... probably the problem
[16:12] <sadbox> like 750mah at a min to be comfortable
[16:12] <sadbox> 1A preferably
[16:12] <blipblop> output: 5V 1A it says also
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[16:13] <blipblop> so it states the correct amperage
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[16:13] <blipblop> Input: 100-240V ~ 50/60 HZ (newline and then.. ) MAX 0.2A
[16:14] <blipblop> don't know what the "MAX 0.2A" refers to, but appears to be part of the Input specification on the charger. Output is 5V 1A
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[16:15] <sadbox> it is indeed probably the input
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[16:15] <blipblop> ok
[16:16] <shiftplusone> 'input' is safe to ignore as long as you don't use a 110v supply on a 220v grid or the other way around. A 1A supply should work fine.
[16:16] <shiftplusone> They do range in quality though
[16:17] <shiftplusone> Also, if heat is causing issues, get your pi replaced because heat should not be a concern at all.
[16:19] <blipblop> I have it in a clip together transparent perspex case I got online for cheap. I can't feel any heat from the raspi whilst its in the case
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[16:19] <shiftplusone> forget heat, that's not an issue at all.
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[16:21] <blipblop> I tried it with a new Samsung phone charger with has the same output rating. The charger made a high pitched whine whilst plugged into the raspi. I quickly unplugged that one. I found my 2001 mp3 charger to cause no immediate problems and seems to work
[16:22] <blipblop> what is the longest uptime anyone has recorded with the raspi and any linux build?
[16:22] <Davespice> I've left one up for weeks before...
[16:22] <Davespice> never really timed it properly though
[16:22] <shiftplusone> I have not had a pi halt/reboot without a good reason. I am sure it could easily run for a year straight.
[16:22] <Weaselweb> uptime or cat /proc/uptume
[16:23] <blipblop> Before I noticed any problems mine was on at least 4 months. but thats when I noticed the prob when SSHing into it. It may have been in a dodgy state for quite some time (weeks or months)
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[16:25] <Helldesk> http://mojang.com/2013/02/minecraft-pi-edition-is-available-for-download/
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[16:27] <double-you> do I need to install any drivers to get the edimax dongle to work on a new raspbian?
[16:28] <blipblop> I can confirm there is something wrong with my original sd. Don't know if hardware or corrupt files on it. I get a consistent kernal panic with it during boot. I'll dd the latest raspian onto it and see how that goes
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[16:31] <nid0> going back to the uptime question, I have 24 days and 23 days on my 2 running pi's right now, i've had longer uptimes though
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[16:34] <sadbox> Helldesk: Can you connect to a normal minecraft server with the pi edition?
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[16:36] <Helldesk> I have no idea
[16:37] <Helldesk> though since it seems to be free, I suspect it could be a separate thing
[16:37] <Weaselweb> http://pi.minecraft.net/?page_id=14
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[16:37] <`quote`> I'm amazed to find that there are TVs that don't support hdmi-audio
[16:37] <Weaselweb> it seems to be spinoff from the pocket version
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[16:39] <sadbox> ahh
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[16:39] <sadbox> still quite cool, I just wish they could increase the world size
[16:40] <ParkerR> :D
[16:40] <ParkerR> http://mojang.com/2013/02/minecraft-pi-edition-is-available-for-download/
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[16:42] <`quote`> minecraft: pi edition?
[16:43] <`quote`> wat
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[16:43] <sadbox> `quote`: Free minecraft! For you pi!
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[16:46] <fperkins> seems to be lan only
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[16:47] <fperkins> what would prevent it from working off of high speed internet though?
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[16:50] <blipblop> I placed the new raspian image overtop the sd card which produced kernal panics and booted it. I saw various "error" messages during boot, got to the raspi-config screen. At that point kb didnt work, and switch led was off. I waited several minutes. switch light is now on, 4 leds are illuminated on raspi and the KB works now (just by waiting). I'll see if I can reboot and discover what the errors are. It seems fine now??
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[16:51] <ParkerR> fperkins, Single player or LAN party with Android and iOS
[16:51] <ParkerR> I guess you could maybe forward the port
[16:52] <ParkerR> But then getting something to connect would be the harder part
[16:52] <blipblop> ok, could not get the errors this boot. damn thats wierd.
[16:53] <sadbox> There are a few pieces of software out there tricking software into think you're on a local lan
[16:53] <fperkins> parker: so you can connect an iphone to your raspberry pi minecraft game?
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[16:54] <fperkins> I was thinking just port forward. How slow could it be over a cable modem?
[16:55] <beers> The normal server doesn't use a huge amount of bandwidth. When I ran a server it used about 2 mbit for ~10 players or so. I'm sure the mobile/pi version is a bit thinner.
[16:55] <sadbox> beers: I guess if it's a port of the pocket edition, there isn't a server
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[16:56] <beers> Indeed, more of a reference that the requirements shouldn't be particularly outlandish.
[16:56] <sadbox> just one player starts a world and others can join.. kinda a server, but not in the normal minecraft sense
[16:56] <ParkerR> fperkins, It works fine over LAN http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fxNIgGcoCE
[16:56] <ParkerR> It only has auto discovery for LAN. You cannot enter an IP
[16:56] <sadbox> I wonder how well it would work over a standard vpn
[16:57] <fperkins> im excited. Im teaching my son python and this is going to be a perfect platform for him to program on
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[17:00] <pecorade> fperkins, nice.
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[17:18] <blipblop> thanks for you help all, looks like I'm sorted. If it happens again, I should be able to fix problems myself.
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[17:35] <Torikun> oi
[17:36] <pksato> Ola
[17:36] <ryanteck> ohai
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[17:43] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://www.ebay.com/itm/ROBOCOP-2-FULL-SIZE-10-FOOT-ROBOT-MODEL-ED-209-PNEUMATIC-CYLINDER-LEGS-/281058544035?afsrc=1 <- needs to be RPI powered
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[17:51] <Davespice> RaTTuS|BIG: thats awesome :)
[17:51] <Davespice> Imagine walking that down the high street
[17:51] <RaTTuS|BIG> ;-p
[17:52] <Davespice> Take it into Tesco, "you will give me a 50% on my shopping, you have 20 seconds to comply"
[17:53] <IT_Sean> lol
[17:54] <RaTTuS|BIG> it'd be great in the office in recpetion ..... just to get it to stad up when anyone came in ...
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[17:54] <IT_Sean> "please follow the giant killing machine to the lifts"
[17:55] <markedathome> where do i find the current linux-kernel-headers for 3.6.11?
[17:55] * markedathome is banging my head against a table
[17:56] <DeliriumTremens> all life is pain
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[18:00] <Davespice> cd ..
[18:00] <Davespice> oops! sorry folks
[18:00] * Davespice slaps himself
[18:00] <IT_Sean> this is IRC. Not the dos prompt
[18:01] <schnuws> Lies !
[18:01] <Davespice> or Putty
[18:01] <IT_Sean> cd.. will not back you out of a directory here.
[18:01] <schnuws> well, you could do some scripting...
[18:01] <RaTTuS|BIG> pkill -HUP irssi #;-p
[18:02] <markedathome> someone somewhere must have set up an ircfs - all unix is a file, possibly plan 9 cd /universe/irc/freenode/raspberrypi
[18:05] <scummos> wouldn't be too difficult
[18:06] <schnuws> a raspberrypi, open for everyone on irc?
[18:06] <schnuws> Would be pretty cool...
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[18:06] <markedathome> ok, so I'm trying to compile something that needs /lib/modules/3.6.11+/build/* - except that it isn't there. How do I get it? currently have 3.6.y compiling, but that will take at least until tomorrow morning.
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[18:36] <FUZxxl> Hello!
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[18:41] <IT_Sean> My raspi just shipped :D
[18:41] <Torikun> Yes!
[18:41] <Torikun> Soon you can share all of our headaches!
[18:42] <FR^2> hehehe :)
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[18:43] <FR^2> IT_Sean: Welcome to the support group of raspberry-pi-addicted ;)
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[18:51] <nemo> IT_Sean: wait. haven't you been on here for like a year?
[18:52] <sect0r> IT_Sean where did you buy your pi?
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[18:57] <IT_Sean> nemo: I have. What's your point?
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[18:57] <nemo> IT_Sean: just surprised you just got one now
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[18:59] <Freigeist85> Hello, did anyone order a Pi @ RS in the last 3 weeks and didn't get any dispatch notification yet ?
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[19:01] <elek> anyone know of a small tutorial to wire up a basic tactical button the a gpio?
[19:01] <elek> tactile*
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[19:06] <leonixyz> hi everyone,... somebody is running Gentoo on its Raspberry Pi? I'm in trouble with the configuration of make.conf, in particular with VIDEO_CARDS flags
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[19:15] <pksato> you rpi is here? http://rastrack.co.uk/
[19:18] <IT_Sean> :(
[19:19] <IT_Sean> The UPS tracking number for my raspi isn't in the UPS system yet
[19:19] <Torikun> =(
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[19:22] <jose1711> http://www.adafruit.com/products/248 - is it possible to power raspi w/ this?
[19:22] <IT_Sean> is it a power supply that outputs 5v at at least 750mA?
[19:22] <nid0> not directly
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[19:22] <mjr> you'd need a 5V regulator in between
[19:23] <Canisaur> get a 4-battery pack
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[19:23] <jose1711> any chance for a working "no-soldering-needed" solution?
[19:23] <Canisaur> then, with four rechargables it's 4.8V and you don't need a regulator
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[19:23] <jose1711> this, then? http://www.adafruit.com/products/830
[19:24] <jose1711> 1.2x4 = 4.8 < 5v
[19:24] <Canisaur> rechargables vary ~1.2v or so as they go through their charge
[19:24] <Canisaur> so 0.2v isn't going to affect anything
[19:24] <mjr> it might somewhat work, though as the voltage drops during discharge, you might not get to fully use the batteries
[19:25] <shiftplusone> I don't think you want to just hook up batteries directly to a pi.
[19:25] <pksato> jose1711: to power RPi from battery, need to use a DC-DC converter or UBEC.
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[19:25] <mjr> it'll be somewhat more than 5v when fully charged as it says on the page, but not overly much, probably will be fine (but I take no responsibility)
[19:25] <IT_Sean> Using a 4.8v 4 cell pack, you will be very disapointed in how long / well your raspi runs.
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[19:25] <jose1711> pksato: any idea where i can get one?
[19:26] <pksato> jose1711: china stores, ebay, etc...
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[19:26] <jose1711> something like this? https://www.adafruit.com/products/1065
[19:27] <mjr> that with the 6-cell pack would work
[19:27] <jose1711> however it seems this needs soldering/pcb
[19:27] <jose1711> not really for an amateur like me
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[19:28] <IT_Sean> There are rechargable USB power packs that MIGHT work. No gueantees as to how long. Might be the way to go if you don't want to learn to solder.
[19:28] <shiftplusone> how is soldering not for an amateur?
[19:28] <jose1711> amateurish amateur
[19:28] <jose1711> i should say
[19:28] <jose1711> i don't even have a sold. gun
[19:28] <IT_Sean> But shiftplusone is right... learn to solder.
[19:28] <shiftplusone> The first thing people do with electronics is often learn to solder
[19:28] <shiftplusone> before they even learn any theory
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[19:28] <pksato> http://www.ebay.com/itm/waterproof-DC-DC-Converter-Regulator-12V-Step-down-to-5V-15W-3A-female-usb-hole-/300857799246?pt=US_Power_Inverters_&hash=item460c85b24e
[19:29] <IT_Sean> The tools are inexpensive, and it's stupid easy. Learn to solder. :p
[19:29] <schnuws> and the fumes are great !
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[19:29] <Canisaur> as are the burns...
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[19:30] <mjr> pksato, that needs a bigger input though
[19:30] <jose1711> is it true that fumes are toxic?
[19:30] <pksato> 8v min.
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[19:30] <mgottschlag> jose1711: you should try to inhale as little as possible, but the average amateur produces quite low amounts of fumes
[19:31] <schnuws> you're melting metal and flux
[19:31] <mgottschlag> if you're soldering a lot, get some kind of filter
[19:31] <IT_Sean> a fume blower / filter isn't the worst idea... but if you only solder a little... just don't breathe in the fumes.
[19:32] <shiftplusone> While the fumes are not something you want to be breathing on a regular basis, contrary to what people think, there's no lead in the fumes.
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[19:32] <pksato> UBEC are used on RC models, and, not need solder, just conectors,
[19:32] <jose1711> ok, thanks. btw.. slightly offtopic. how do i get to join two cables? i guess soldering is not the way
[19:33] <schnuws> why not?
[19:33] <jose1711> i should probably make a connect on both sides, right?
[19:33] <jose1711> because the joint wouldn't be too strong?
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[19:34] <schnuws> solder and whats it called... shrink...thingy
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[19:34] <shiftplusone> When joining a cable I want to last, I solder it together, add a bit of hot glue and then wrap thread over the glue to hold it all together. Then cover with shrinkwrap
[19:34] <shiftplusone> not shrinkwrap... damn, now I forgot the word as well
[19:34] <schnuws> shrinkwrap!
[19:34] <schnuws> lol
[19:34] <IT_Sean> heatshrink?
[19:34] <shiftplusone> YES!
[19:34] <pksato> example of UBEC http://www.ebay.com/itm/Hobbywing-3A-UBEC-5V-6V-max-5A-Lowest-RF-Noise-BEC-S-/120753508902?pt=US_Character_Radio_Control_Diecast_Toys&hash=item1c1d785226
[19:34] <shiftplusone> schnuws, threw me off there
[19:35] <schnuws> heat shrink ?
[19:35] <schnuws> oh
[19:35] <IT_Sean> heatshrink is the awesome
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[19:35] <DeliriumTremens> doesnt look like i'll be routing my dosbox output to a BBS telnet session
[19:35] <DeliriumTremens> so on to plan B
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[19:36] <jose1711> hmm.. intl shipping. likey :-)
[19:38] <jose1711> no experience w/ heatshrink (but ordered already so i WILL be experimenting)
[19:38] <pksato> or, use car 12V converter to 5V (psu for gps and others).
[19:38] <shiftplusone> good luck, make sure you get the right size
[19:39] <schnuws> I just ordered a laser... but I'm not sure what I can do with a laser, any suggestions?
[19:39] <pksato> Some these use LDO regulator or switched regulator, input can by from 6V to 18V.
[19:40] <jose1711> in theory... that ubec linked.. i should be able to supply 5v to raspberry and/or 6v to iduino nano, right?
[19:40] <pksato> jose1711: yes.
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[19:41] <jose1711> any idea why is the cable on the picture tangled that much?
[19:42] <pksato> ajustabel DC-DC cinverter http://dx.com/p/dc-4-40v-to-dc-1-5-35v-voltage-step-down-transformer-126108
[19:42] <jose1711> and i guess i should probably get a multimeter and first check whether the output is really 5v/6v
[19:42] <pksato> Is good pratice.
[19:43] <jose1711> btw this is a *regulated* source of power, correct?
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[19:45] <pksato> or, buy one with voltameter http://www.buyincoins.com/new_en/details/dc-4-5-24v-to-0-93-20v-converter-step-down-buck-module-with-blue-led-voltmeter-product-26007.html
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[19:47] <jose1711> this looks much better
[19:49] <pksato> and, some book like it http://www.amazon.com/Electronics-For-Dummies-Cathleen-Shamieh/dp/0470286970/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1360608457&sr=8-4&keywords=basic+electronics
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[19:53] <steve_rox> according to some news website minecraft has been released
[19:53] <steve_rox> not sure if its true or not
[19:53] <shiftplusone> Also according to random people every 10 minutes here =p
[19:53] <shiftplusone> and yes, it's true
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[19:53] <steve_rox> :-P
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[19:55] <jose1711> wo hoo
[19:55] <jose1711> hopefully playable on 256 models as well
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[19:57] <gordonDrogon> Davespice, ping pong ...
[19:57] <gordonDrogon> Hm. didn't meant to ping here. Ah well.
[19:59] <jeffarch> Aloha...anyone running minecraft for RPi on raspbian get just a black window? Am running headless via VNC.
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[20:00] <shiftplusone> jeffarch, that's not going to work
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[20:02] <jeffarch> shiftplusone: ok, I'll hook it up via hdmi later, thanks
[20:03] <shiftplusone> np. That's just the way hardware acceleration works on the pi, it's a bit stupid in that sense.
[20:05] <jeffarch> ah, figures :) thanks again
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[20:05] <mgottschlag> as I understand it, it is completely a software limitation though
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[20:06] <shiftplusone> mgottschlag, software as in the firmware, not the userland stuff, right?
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[20:06] <mgottschlag> yeah
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[20:07] <shiftplusone> Don't see that changing any time soon then.
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[20:07] <mgottschlag> it should scan out from some normal dram which could be
[20:07] <mgottschlag> hm, we could try scanning uncached sdram for the framebuffer
[20:07] <mgottschlag> anybody wants to try?
[20:08] <shiftplusone> Not something I have the knowhow for. =(
[20:09] <shiftplusone> mgottschlag, what's happening in the videocore world anyway? Last time I checked there was binutils and talk of gcc and phire doing his llvm thing. Is there any proper c compiler yet?
[20:10] <chupacabra> http://www.buzzfeed.com/summeranne/50-sure-signs-that-texas-is-actually-utopia
[20:10] <mgottschlag> no, phire implemented more instructions for the llvm assembler though
[20:10] <shiftplusone> so llvm is the most promising front right now then?
[20:10] <mgottschlag> probably
[20:10] <jose1711> so this http://www.buyincoins.com/new_en/details/dc-4-5-24v-to-0-93-20v-converter-step-down-buck-module-with-blue-led-voltmeter-product-26007.html with 10x AA pack eneloop 2000 mAh could give me a raspi lifetime of about.. 2-3 hours?
[20:10] <shiftplusone> alright, thanks
[20:11] <mgottschlag> gcc would probably require more work
[20:12] <mgottschlag> http://wayland.freedesktop.org/raspberrypi.html <- "Normally the compositing is done on-line, during scanout, but cannot handle too many elements." - sounds like a hardware overlay engine
[20:12] <mgottschlag> but I'd expect the overlays to sit somewhere in dram
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[20:15] <pksato> jose1711: 12*2000=24Wh, RPi draw ~5W, 24Wh/5W=4.8h
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[20:16] <pksato> and, ideal 100% of converter eficiency.
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[20:20] <jose1711> wow, that does sound good
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[20:32] <PhonicUK> I wonder how long a Pi would run of a pair of CR2032s
[20:34] <|Jeroen|> whats a CR2032 ?
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[20:34] <bertrik> a 3V lithium battery
[20:34] <Canisaur> well, at 225 mAh, probably about 20 minutes at idle
[20:34] <zleap> erm
[20:34] <zleap> isn't the pi 5v
[20:34] <zleap> as te psu output is 5v
[20:35] <IT_Sean> Yes
[20:35] <IT_Sean> You would need to put 3 of 'em together, and regulate down to 5v
[20:35] <zleap> could be a way of building very very basic UPS
[20:36] <zleap> 20 mins is enough time to shut down (well plenty of time)
[20:36] <|Jeroen|> lol, a ups for a pi
[20:36] <IT_Sean> PhonicUK: a pair of them would be 6v, which is too much for the Pi. You would need to regulate it
[20:36] <PhonicUK> yeah i know :P
[20:36] <zleap> |Jeroen|, in some situations that may be an idea
[20:36] <Canisaur> lol watch battery UPS
[20:37] <zleap> well if the idea is to just shutdown cleanly
[20:37] <Canisaur> sure, I suppose it would work
[20:37] <Canisaur> provided they can discharge that fast without blowing up or something
[20:37] <zleap> hmm
[20:37] <PhonicUK> if you can get the pi to shutdown in under 10 seconds or so, you could probably just use a suitably large capacitor to keep it going
[20:37] <IT_Sean> I would be more apt to use a 12v lead acid alarm panel / UPS battery, regulated down.
[20:38] <|Jeroen|> yeah i don't think those batteries are made for that
[20:38] <IT_Sean> Would run it longer.
[20:38] <ShadowJK_> iirc something like 20mA max discharge rate for cr2032
[20:38] <zleap> yeh
[20:38] <PhonicUK> bleh
[20:38] <Canisaur> alkalines are pretty cheap
[20:39] <PhonicUK> I wonder how big a solar panel I'd need to charge a 12v slab enough to run a Pi 24/7
[20:39] <mgottschlag> how long would a large supercap last?
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[20:39] <zleap> depends on the current drain i guess
[20:39] <PhonicUK> a cap that can provide 500ma for a couple of seconds would be a pretty big cap
[20:39] <ech0s7> hi all!
[20:40] <ech0s7> anyone could help me to crosscompile qtwebkit ?
[20:40] <ech0s7> i write this how-to to crosscompile QT5
[20:40] <ech0s7> https://lists.webkit.org/pipermail/webkit-qt/2013-February/003457.html
[20:41] <ech0s7> and in it i have write the problem that i have to crosscompile qtwebkit
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[20:51] <aaa801> I bet no one has used the raspberrypi to restore a iphone before :P
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[20:51] <Torikun> http://mojang.com/2013/02/minecraft-pi-edition-is-available-for-download/
[20:51] <Torikun> Minecraft officially released!
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[20:52] <IT_Sean> Torikun: Congrats! You are the seven-quintillinth person to mention minecraft today!
[20:52] <Torikun> lol
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[20:55] <aaa801> http://i.imgur.com/b1l9clD.png
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[20:57] <DeliriumTremens> is raspbian supposed to startx on boot? o.O
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[20:58] <beers> There should be a setting on raspi-config for that
[20:59] <defiantredpill> there is it on by default
[20:59] <DeliriumTremens> eh, i enabled it for some reason thought it was on by default
[21:00] <Canisaur> it wasn't on when I tried it
[21:00] <Canisaur> it went straight into raspi-config
[21:01] <DeliriumTremens> aaaaand now i cant ssh in
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[21:03] <aaa801> run raspi-config
[21:03] <aaa801> enable ssh
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[21:06] <DeliriumTremens> aaa801: ssh was already enabled
[21:06] <DeliriumTremens> i was doing this remotely
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[21:06] <aaa801> mhm
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[21:06] <aaa801> welp im just hoping that this iphone comes back to life so i can get payed :P
[21:06] <DeliriumTremens> i enabled overclocking, maybe i corrupted the SD
[21:06] <aaa801> possible
[21:06] <_djo__> ssh is already enabled on Raspbian and Arch
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[21:13] <NullMoogleCable> http://pi.minecraft.net/
[21:13] <NullMoogleCable> its out
[21:13] <shiftplusone> .....
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[21:14] <beers> What level of OC did you enable? Mine seems to corrupt pretty easily for Turbo settings on Raspbian, although haven't exhibited that behavior under Arch
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[21:16] <NullMoogleCable> what is the max ram a pi can support?
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[21:16] <NullMoogleCable> like if i got a 1 gb chip and unsoldered the 256mb one
[21:16] <beers> good luck with that
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[21:17] <|Jeroen|> not worth the effort
[21:18] <jbaanus> Hi, my usb wifi dongle (rtl8188cus) sees current AP (capable 300Mb/s) as 16Mb/s, but most other networks show up as 54Mb/s. What could be the cause? iperf shows, that throughput is mere 1.7Mbit/s
[21:18] <NullMoogleCable> well im working on settin gup a server for the pi version of minecraft
[21:19] <beers> IIRC the pocket/pi versions don't have a dedicated server support but are more peer to peer on local LAN
[21:24] <Canisaur> yeah Pi version is just a ported Pocket Edition
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[21:27] <Flexnard> .\
[21:27] <Flexnard> \
[21:27] <Flexnard> \\
[21:27] <Flexnard> \
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[21:28] <Flexnard> oops
[21:29] <mjr> the pi folks had to do a (proprietary) firmware upgrade to support the 512M model so even if you managed to change the POP RAM module you'd probably also have to do some reverse-engineering to support it...
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[21:37] <meebey> das someone know what the fastest SD card for rpi ist?
[21:37] <meebey> I have seen 20MB/s for read and write and wonder if there is something faster
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[21:38] <mgottschlag> 1G cannot be used even with a firmware upgrade, the chip doesn't support it
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[21:39] <mgottschlag> 512G really is the maximum
[21:40] <mjr> M
[21:40] <mjr> but okay
[21:40] <mjr> not that it would be very advisable to try anyway
[21:41] <bertrik> meebey: at some point (I guess around 25 MB/s) the speed is not limited just by the card, but by the sd protocol too
[21:41] <mgottschlag> I think some people did the 256M->512M conversion way before the 512M version was out
[21:41] <mgottschlag> you need quite some experience though
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[21:43] <beers> Even with some of the sandisk extreme cards the limit through the rpi seems to be around ~20M/s
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[21:43] <FR^2> <-- class 10, same thing ;)
[21:44] <mjr> yes, IIRC that's the best you can do with pi
[21:45] <DeliriumTremens> run the OS from a USB stick?
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[21:47] <t3ch> hello all, i cant connect raspberry to monitor so if i enable ssh how to i know what kind of ip it use? can i set static ip before starting up raspberry ?
[21:48] <zleap> are you using dhcp
[21:48] <t3ch> no
[21:48] <zleap> ok
[21:48] <t3ch> only static
[21:48] <t3ch> :)
[21:48] <zleap> on all the computers
[21:48] <t3ch> ya
[21:48] <zleap> on the network
[21:48] <zleap> ok
[21:49] <pronto> mount the SD card, and edit <distros> config file for the IP settings
[21:49] <ParkerR> :D The lapdock having the same resolution as my main laptop has it's advantages http://withg.org/parkerlreed/rpi.png
[21:49] <pronto> debain baised its /etc/network/interfaces <
[21:49] <pronto> t3ch:
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[21:50] <zleap> any reason you are not using dhcp
[21:51] <t3ch> hm ok will try, ubuntu dont want to mount it so i need to go to win7 there it works.. if you know maybe what to do with ubuntu to mount micro sdcard here is error: http://pastebin.com/DKtwLCKT
[21:51] <t3ch> i am forwarding connection with iptables, never have tryed to setup dhcp
[21:51] <t3ch> :)
[21:52] <t3ch> will try to set that ips in that config but must go to win :/
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[21:52] <t3ch> i come back in few minutes to set that config and stuff if you know how to fix that mounting on ubuntu will be great
[21:52] <t3ch> brb
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[21:56] <beers> DHCP reservations would be a lot easier than putting a static IP on everything
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[21:59] <s5fs> t3ch: I get that same error on my laptop (running ubuntu), I think it's my sdcard reader isn't supported well. I'm using a usb sdcard reader and it works fine under ubuntu.
[21:59] <zleap> beers, yeah,
[21:59] <Canisaur> t3ch logged out
[22:00] <s5fs> Canisaur: indeed, but he'll brb so i left a message ;-)
[22:00] <s5fs> or she, whatever
[22:00] <Canisaur> you can leave offline messages for people??
[22:01] <zleap> having static on some devices works on a dhcp network it depends what you are trying to do i guess
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[22:02] <s5fs> Canisaur: i assume this channel is logged somewhere, but i'm not aware of an away message service. i leave my session idling when i'm not online, that's as close as I get.
[22:02] <zleap> i tought dhcp was default anyway
[22:02] <Canisaur> oh I see what you're getting at
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[22:02] <Canisaur> gotcha
[22:02] <zleap> memoserv if its supported here
[22:03] <s5fs> zleap: dhcp is default on most interfaces for most consumer devices. dhcp reservations (as suggested above) bridge the gap between static IPs and dhcp clients, helping ensure a client with a dhcp reservation gets the same IP, even though it's being managed by a dhcp server. this does have some advantages.
[22:04] <s5fs> if no dhcp server is present, most devices default to zeroconf
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[22:04] <s5fs> most? many? can't really say for sure.
[22:04] <zleap> s5fs, sounds useful
[22:04] <zleap> is that easy to set up ?
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[22:05] <zleap> s5fs, also makes life easier with /etc/hosts too i guess
[22:05] <s5fs> zleap: yeah, it's pretty easy if your dhcp server supports it. look for a "reservations" config screen, you'll need the mac address of the device you wish to make a reservation for
[22:05] <zleap> ok
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[22:05] <s5fs> zleap: well, managing dns for your network makes /etc/hosts easier for sure.
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[22:06] <zleap> i set up /etc/hosts so i cn do ssh pi@raspberrypi rather than typing the ip
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[22:07] <s5fs> zleap: I'm lazier than you, I set up an alias (alias rpi='ssh pi@raspberrypi') so I can just type 'rpi' ;-)
[22:07] <s5fs> zleap: oh, i'm also using ssh keys to auth, so no passwords involved if you want
[22:07] <Canisaur> you can also add an entry to .ssh/config
[22:07] <Canisaur> so you can just type 'ssh rpi' or something
[22:07] <Canisaur> but that alias is even faster
[22:08] <s5fs> Canisaur: since i tend to replicate my config files (.bashrc, etc) across hosts i manage, aliases work really well.
[22:08] <Canisaur> nice part about .ssh/config entry is that you can use it for scp too
[22:08] <s5fs> Canisaur: i haven't used .ssh/config before, I'll check it out. could be really useful.
[22:08] <s5fs> yeah, for scp i just type it out
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[22:09] <ParkerR> Raspberry Pi goes to McDonalds http://db.tt/MOOwyPEu
[22:09] <s5fs> ParkerR: haha nice!
[22:09] <s5fs> i should post pics of my ghetto laptop setup. i'm basically just hold the rpi to the back of my laptop using rubber bands
[22:11] <Caleb> if it works
[22:11] <Caleb> why not
[22:11] <zleap> found it
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[22:12] <ParkerR> s5fs, I'm I'm talking with you via the Pitop :)
[22:12] <ParkerR> *And I'm
[22:13] <zleap> s5fs, cool
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[22:13] <zleap> that goes in .bashrc right
[22:14] <s5fs> zleap: i put my aliases in .bash_aliases but you can also stick them in .bashrc
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[22:14] <zleap> s5fs, thanks
[22:15] <zleap> I am slowly getting to grips with this sort of thing
[22:15] <s5fs> zleap: np, enjoy!
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[22:15] <zleap> ssh keys are different to gnupg keys right
[22:15] <zleap> ssh --keygen
[22:15] <zleap> then copy key to remote system, e.g raspberrypi
[22:15] <s5fs> zleap: right, ssh-keygen for ssh keys. i forget what you use for gnupg
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[22:15] <tsn> s5fs: what do you use to repilcate the configs, something fancy?
[22:15] <ParkerR> You can stick them in .bash_aliases assuming the .bashrc includes a reference to the .bash_alias file
[22:16] <zleap> ah
[22:16] <s5fs> tsn: shell scripts like a boss, i'm only managing a couple personal machines
[22:16] <zleap> i need to sync my /etc/hosts file
[22:16] <zleap> across various devices too
[22:16] <sadbox> Time to learn puppet
[22:17] <s5fs> replicating /etc/hosts feels like the beginning of the internet
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[22:20] <double-you> can someone tell me why wifi gets disconnected when plugging an ethernet cable in?
[22:20] <rymate1234> power issue?
[22:21] <zleap> right, just put in a splitter so i can connect more pcs to my router
[22:21] <double-you> 2,5A
[22:21] <ParkerR> double-you, It may be auto activating ethernet
[22:21] <ParkerR> And you cant be connected to both
[22:21] <double-you> ParkerR: why not?
[22:21] <ParkerR> Because thats how linux is in general unless you go through a process to get both working
[22:22] <s5fs> double-you: i'd attach the wifi dongle to a powered hub just to ensure it's not a power issue (which seems to be crazy common on the rpi)
[22:22] <double-you> I unplugged the ethernet and now wifi reconnects...
[22:22] <s5fs> double-you: that sounds like the network manager is 'helping you out'
[22:22] <sadbox> ParkerR: That sounds... strange. I could have sworn I've been connected to both
[22:23] <double-you> of course I want to use both
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[22:24] <beers> Why would you need both simultaneously, out of curiosity?
[22:24] <zleap> how do i use netstat to see local addresses
[22:24] <beers> Do you mean ifconfig?
[22:24] <Weaselweb> zleap: -a? -n? what do you mean with local addresses?
[22:25] <zleap> on my network to figure out where my pi is now
[22:25] <zleap> just plugged router -> splitter --> 2 devices
[22:25] <beers> I'd bet money it won't work with the splitter.
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[22:25] <double-you> normally I use wifi, but if there's not wifi, I want to use ethernet
[22:25] <zleap> hmm
[22:25] <beers> Unless you actually mean a switch
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[22:25] <zleap> ethernet
[22:25] <zleap> no i have a router
[22:26] <zleap> and this is a ether net cable splitter
[22:26] <Weaselweb> what's that?
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[22:26] <beers> I'd suggest using a switch instead. The splitter isn't going to provide the correct breakout for you when coming back to the 'router'
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[22:27] <zleap> can good point its not working in the way i expected
[22:27] <zleap> bbr
[22:27] <zleap> brb
[22:27] <gr8> what wifi usb stick would you recommend for use with RP? it should be pretty small and optimally has open source drivers available
[22:27] <Weaselweb> atheros chipset
[22:28] <gr8> ok, but which usb device? didn't find atheros based usb cards
[22:28] <Shinda> hello all
[22:28] <double-you> s5fs: no power issue
[22:28] <Weaselweb> gr8: dunno about usb wifi. sorry. but atheros should be the chipset with the fewest problems on linux
[22:29] <gr8> Weaselweb: well it should run on NetBSD, anyway. the atheros cards aren't very small (I'd like to have so called "pico" size adapter)
[22:29] <zleap> ok ssh keygen
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[22:30] <Weaselweb> gr8: oh, no idea about bsd at all
[22:30] <gr8> np
[22:30] <normod> gr8: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Devices/USB
[22:30] <sadbox> How are the edimax mini wifi cards? I ordered one without too much research
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[22:31] <zleap> where do i copy the rsa key too ?
[22:31] <sadbox> Looks like they use some sort of realtek chipset
[22:31] <gr8> sadbox: yeah the edimax was on my list too... EW-7811Un iirc
[22:31] <zleap> generated on pi
[22:31] <sadbox> zleap: You copy the contents of your idrsa.pub to the authorized_keys file on the computer your'e connecting to
[22:32] <zleap> ok
[22:32] <sadbox> make sure to just append it though...
[22:32] <sadbox> and not to copy your private key
[22:32] <sadbox> actually
[22:32] <sadbox> scratch that
[22:32] <zleap> do i need to use passphrase
[22:32] <zleap> for a home network
[22:32] <sadbox> ssh-copy-id user@remotehost
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[22:33] <sadbox> and it'll copy it automatically for you
[22:33] <zleap> where does it live normally
[22:33] <zleap> in /home/username
[22:33] <sadbox> in ~/.ssh
[22:33] <zleap> so i need to be in there to generate the key
[22:33] <sadbox> nope
[22:34] <gr8> Weaselweb: btw I would recommend giving NetBSD a try to anyone techy interested
[22:34] <zleap> ok ok
[22:34] <sadbox> by default (i.e. you don't change the name of the keys) it'll save it in /home/yourusername/.ssh/id_rsa and then id_rsa.pub
[22:34] <zleap> so i type ssh-keygen on myy desktop
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[22:35] <zleap> ah i get ya
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[22:35] <zleap> as i gsave it a name it saved it in the directory i was in
[22:35] <sadbox> yep
[22:35] <Weaselweb> gr8: for which reason? i do (some) linux kernel hacking
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[22:36] <zleap> so id_rsa or id_rsa.pub
[22:36] <gr8> Weaselweb: it just feels much cleaner
[22:36] <zleap> i ssume pub as that is my public key
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[22:36] <sadbox> zleap: Just type ssh-copy-id user@whateverhost
[22:37] <sadbox> so from your desktop "ssh-copy-id pi@ip-of-your-pi"
[22:37] <sadbox> and type your password
[22:37] <Weaselweb> gr8: well, that's not actually a reason to switch over
[22:37] <zleap> ok
[22:37] <Primer> Is anyone here familiar with detecting HDMI plug events and scripting stuff to happen upon connect/disconnect?
[22:37] <zleap> i am logged in t my pi now
[22:38] <zleap> what do i do now
[22:38] <Primer> I'd like my pi to be idle with it's not being "seen", as the only thing it does is serve as a playback device for my security camera stream
[22:38] <Primer> s/with/when/
[22:38] <sadbox> zleap: Gonna PM you, one sec
[22:38] <zleap> ok
[22:39] <gr8> Weaselweb: I didn't say you must totally switch... just take a look, maybe you would like it
[22:40] <Weaselweb> gr8: maybe, but no time for that. I have already problems finishing my rpi tasks and other stuff. I can't start digging into bsd
[22:40] <gr8> ok, how you like it
[22:41] <Weaselweb> I'm happy with my linux and know how to fix some things in kernel or write new drivers
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[22:44] <t3ch> anyone know what to do with this micro sdcard or i need to buy one more -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12504790#post12504790
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[22:49] <KiltedPi> for your pi tech?
[22:50] <KiltedPi> You've tried win32 disk imager with a windows os too?
[22:50] <KiltedPi> weird
[22:50] <t3ch> ya
[22:51] <t3ch> i will restart comp hard restart maybe that helps one guy says
[22:51] <t3ch> brb
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[22:55] * pierut awaits his bourbon delivery
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[22:55] <t3ch> no dont help :)
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[22:55] <_ember> did someone used accelerometer + gyro in RPi?
[22:55] <_ember> I'm wondering which is better : L3G4200D + ADXL345 ( + additionaly HMC5883L + BMP085)
[22:55] <_ember> or MPU-6050
[22:56] <_ember> but I highly doubt that anyone had the same dilemma :)
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[23:05] <double-you> looks like ifdown --force wlan0 and ifup wlan0 can get eth0 and wlan0 simultaneously to work
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[23:20] <KeyboardNotFound> Where to buy raspberry pi? I live in Macedonia?
[23:22] <pksato> On local resaler of RS or Farnell?
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[23:23] <Primer> Is anyone here familiar with detecting HDMI plug events and scripting stuff to happen upon connect/disconnect?
[23:23] <Primer> I'd like my pi to be idle with it's not being "seen", as the only thing it does is serve as a playback device for my security camera stream
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[23:23] <Primer> basically run omxplayer when it HDMI connects, terminate it when it disconnects
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[23:26] <Primer> apt-cache search java | wc -l
[23:26] <Primer> 1999
[23:26] <Primer> sigh...
[23:26] <zleap> lol
[23:27] <Primer> I just want the runtime to try minecraft pi
[23:27] <pksato> Primer: why Java?
[23:27] <mgottschlag> just install all of them.
[23:27] <debenham> Primer: check out udev - there might be away with that
[23:27] <pksato> If have a native port?
[23:27] <shiftplusone> Primer, it doesn't use java
[23:27] <Primer> pksato: because minecraft is written in java?
[23:27] <pksato> pi.minecraft.net
[23:27] <debenham> https://charlesmcruz.wordpress.com/2012/01/22/ubuntu-11-10-automatic-hdmi-toggle-with-audio/
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[23:28] <shiftplusone> the pi version is the pocket edition, which is not java. And if you want to use the 'real' version then.. good luck.
[23:28] <pksato> try openjdk
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[23:29] <Primer> my bad then. When I extracted the tarball and saw the java directory, I presumed some sort of runtime was necessary
[23:29] <Primer> debenham: this is great stuff. Thanks
[23:31] <Primer> heh, if only I wasn't doing this remotely I could see if it's actually running :)
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[23:35] <pierut> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpVU6w_7fBk
[23:35] <pierut> ;>
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[23:37] <necr0tik> Got a third, higher powered, charge. USB stack still borks out 1-2 minutes after boot and keeps resetting itself until it just gives up completely.
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[23:42] <necr0tik> Does raspbmc use the same kernel as the wheezy download? Someone indicated it could be related to a newer kernel.
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[23:47] <Hopsy> nemo: did you helped me last time with a masquerade script?
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[23:51] <zleap> what is tbe remote desktop package thing
[23:51] <zleap> rdbmc or something
[23:52] <zleap> so i can login to the pi via the login screen on another computer
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[23:54] <double-you> ah, there's a ifplugd process running, which deactivates wifi on ethernet connection
[23:54] <Hopsy> vnc ?
[23:54] <zleap> i got tht
[23:54] <zleap> this is so i can choose a the login screen
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[23:55] <Hopsy> ??
[23:55] <zleap> rdbmc
[23:55] <zleap> i dunno you get a pull down menu thing at the login screen
[23:55] <Hopsy> I am using vnc
[23:55] <zleap> no idea what its called
[23:55] <zleap> ok
[23:55] <zleap> thanks
[23:55] <Hopsy> vnc-server
[23:55] <Hopsy> and vnc-client
[23:55] <zleap> i got those installed
[23:56] <Hopsy> vnc viewer
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[23:56] <zleap> you used to be able to get to a log in screen and rther than logging in locally login across a network
[23:59] <zleap> xrdp i think
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