#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-02-14

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[0:00] <Quietlyawesome94> Think I'll grab this one http://www.amazon.com/Edimax-Wireless-802-11b-Nano-Adapter/dp/B003MTTJOY/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1360796384&sr=8-2&keywords=Edimax+EW-7811UN+Wireless
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[0:00] <Quietlyawesome94> several people on the Pi forums said it works nice
[0:01] <swart> I like to avoid wifi if I can
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[0:01] <clear`> Quietlyawesome94: thats the one i bought
[0:02] <Quietlyawesome94> Good. :) I'll order it later tonight. have $16 on my amazon.
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[0:02] <Quietlyawesome94> I shoul probably grab an extra phone charger too.
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[0:02] <Quietlyawesome94> I've had this thing since last summer but haven't had the time or money to mess with it. :/
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[0:04] <Quietlyawesome94> I can't imagine how such a small adaptor would need $5 shipping.
[0:05] <Quietlyawesome94> adapter
[0:05] <clear`> Quietlyawesome94: i havent used it yet...
[0:05] <clear`> lol
[0:05] <clear`> because amazon doesnt ship it
[0:05] <clear`> its from the company
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[0:05] <clear`> Quietlyawesome94: i grabbed a usb hub
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[0:06] <clear`> has worked great for the pi + external drive
[0:06] <Quietlyawesome94> I ordered one along with my Pi last year. :D
[0:06] <Quietlyawesome94> It's a nice one
[0:06] <Quietlyawesome94> Anyway, several people confirmed that adapter works out of the box with raspbmc
[0:06] <clear`> oh nice
[0:07] <clear`> might put raspbmc on another sdcard then
[0:07] <tapout> can you get netflix running on raspbmc?
[0:07] <KiltedPi> you can get free sky television with xbmc I heard somewhere
[0:07] <KiltedPi> :S
[0:07] * [SLB] is now known as [SLB]`
[0:07] <KiltedPi> bit nawty that, tho
[0:08] <pierut> netflix requires silverlight which is not available for linux
[0:08] <Quietlyawesome94> Forget Netflix. XBMC has Navi-X. :P
[0:09] <tapout> never heard of navi-x
[0:09] <tapout> checking
[0:09] <Quietlyawesome94> I'm not saying anything else about it
[0:09] <Quietlyawesome94> Google is your friend. :]
[0:10] <pierut> theres a 1channel plugin too
[0:11] <clear`> lol
[0:11] <clear`> i had 1channel
[0:11] <clear`> never used it
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[0:11] <pierut> meh?
[0:13] <clear`> stupid question, first boot on openelec, do i need a monitor
[0:13] <clear`> or does terminal work
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[0:15] <tapout> does a raspberry pi benefit from a usb3 stick vs usb2? I would think that usb2 would saturate it anyways
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[0:16] <Viper-7> even usb2 doesnt get close to full speed on the pi
[0:17] <Viper-7> many people run on usb 1.1 due to latency issues
[0:17] <tapout> was reading an article with some guy recommending usb3 for navi-x/raspbmc
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[0:18] <mervaka> hmm
[0:18] <Quietlyawesome94> Navi-X is pretty sweet though. Lots of 1080 and 720p streams that run flawlessly. Even works on XBMC for my Nexus 7.
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[0:18] <mervaka> how are people here with sockets?
[0:18] <Quietlyawesome94> and iPod Touch 5g
[0:18] <Viper-7> tapout: same as the people who recommend class 10 SD cards, when nothing above class 6 really makes a difference
[0:18] <Viper-7> mervaka: sup?
[0:19] <tapout> Quietlyawesome94, i haven't installed navi-x yet but i bet it has problems for canadians :)
[0:19] <mervaka> got a C program here, sending js_event structs from joystick to udp packets
[0:19] <tapout> without bouncing thru a us ip, i can't get much stuff on netflix
[0:19] <Quietlyawesome94> Eh? :P
[0:19] <mervaka> but sendto creates an "unknown error"
[0:19] <Quietlyawesome94> Should work fine tapout
[0:19] <Quietlyawesome94> It's just video streams from people's servers'
[0:19] <tapout> Quietlyawesome94, where are you? 'eh'? .. haha fellow canadian
[0:20] <Viper-7> mervaka: well if its UDP, its a client side issue, failed to open the client port?
[0:20] <Quietlyawesome94> I was just poking fun. I'm from the deep south in Georgia. :D
[0:20] <mervaka> Viper-7: wouldn't it return me an error code if that were the case? :s
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[0:20] <mervaka> just returns -1
[0:20] <Quietlyawesome94> You'll catch me saying 'y'all' a lot in here. ;)
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[0:22] <Viper-7> mervaka: it`ll return -1, but also set errno
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[0:22] <Quietlyawesome94> Time for Mr. Bible Belt to go to church. :P I'll bbl. :)
[0:22] <mervaka> Viper-7: that's a point
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[0:23] <Viper-7> http://pastie.org/6158323
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[0:31] <KiltedPi> Video is UDP ja
[0:31] <KiltedPi> fo sho
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[0:39] <mervaka> Viper-7: permission denied :s
[0:39] <SwK> anyone with Eagle experience have a sec to look at a project file, and tell me if I'm being a total idiot? (project is a shield or plate for the RPi) project files are on github @ https://github.com/swk/switchpi
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[0:41] <pksato> SwK: export sch or pcb as png image file.
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[0:43] <Viper-7> mervaka: pastebin code?
[0:43] <mervaka> sec
[0:43] <mervaka> http://pastebin.com/kkAHADWN
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[0:46] <Viper-7> mervaka: mostly looks fine, is it because you`re using a hostname instead of address? try swapping localhost for
[0:46] <pksato> SwK: my eagle cad dont open you files. (older version)
[0:46] <mervaka> Viper-7: ok
[0:47] <SwK> pksato: yeah i've got that a few times??? i used 6.4
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[0:54] <SwK> pksato: http://switchpi.org/2013/02/13/switchpi-lcdkeypad-interface-pix-exported-from-eagle/
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[1:04] <clear`> IT_Sean: openelec seems much faster and smoother than raspbian + xbmc
[1:05] <clear`> wifi works, just cant get it connected to the internet (its connected locally tho)
[1:05] <clear`> arg
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[1:06] <IT_Sean> i'm moving my media collection to an externally powered drive... Soon as that's done, i'm going to start enjoying OpenELEC. :p
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[1:07] <SStrife> swk, those traces look awful small, are you having the board fab'd or etching it yourself?
[1:08] <mervaka> Viper-7: sorry, got distracted from all this. had some kid ripping my apparent inability to write C.. :/
[1:08] <SStrife> only other thing I notice is 90 degree bends, apparently you should avoid those to aid the manufacturing process somehow.
[1:08] <Viper-7> lol
[1:08] <SStrife> i habitually chamfer those off now
[1:08] <mervaka> well the problem was my inexperience with posix..
[1:09] <mervaka> but he decided to bash me because i thought strerror would return error codes listed in the manpages
[1:09] <mervaka> things like EACCES
[1:10] <mervaka> and he decided to lecture me on preprocessor statements, and recommend books on C for me..
[1:10] <mervaka> aaaaaaanyway..
[1:10] <Viper-7> errno = EACCES
[1:10] <Viper-7> but not strerror
[1:10] <mervaka> yeah, i realise EACCES is a macro now
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[1:11] <mervaka> speaking of EACCES, that's the error i'm getting :p
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[1:12] <mervaka> trying to dig deeper
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[1:13] * plugwash remembers routing a board with 0.1mm track and gap, 0.5mm via pads and 0.3mm via holes
[1:13] <plugwash> (oh and 8 layers)
[1:15] <plugwash> but as a general rule you should make your min track/gap as big as you have space for
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[1:16] <plugwash> fabrication issues asside it's a LOT easier to wiremod a board with 24 mil (0.6mm) tracks than one with 12 mil tracks
[1:17] <plugwash> below about 24 mil it gets VERY hard to solder a wire to a track you just cut
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[1:18] <SwK> SStrife: going to have it fab'd??? might eventually make a few kits if people want them...
[1:19] <Viper-7> mervaka: works perfectly here, selinux or something maybe?
[1:19] <mervaka> hmm?
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[1:22] <Viper-7> mervaka: selinux and other OS settings can prevent you from opening UDP sockets, giving you permission denied errors when you try
[1:22] <mervaka> how would i find out?
[1:22] <Viper-7> after adjusting your DESTHOST to, your code compiles and runs here without issue
[1:23] <Viper-7> sestatus
[1:23] <Viper-7> ?
[1:23] <Viper-7> what distro
[1:24] <mervaka> just ubuntu
[1:24] <mervaka> currently, this is on my laptop as well :|
[1:24] <mervaka> sestatus isn't installed
[1:24] <SwK> SStrife: thanks for the input??? its been a _long_ time since I had boards fab'd lol
[1:24] <SStrife> no worries man
[1:24] <mervaka> does that mean selinux isn't either?
[1:25] <SwK> SStrife: last time I fab'd boards you could buy everything at radioshack if that tells you anything lol
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[1:25] <SStrife> plugwash is on the money too, thicker traces makes it easier to fix/alter by hand if you have to
[1:25] <SStrife> geeze, that's going back
[1:25] * SwK is an old fart
[1:26] <SStrife> We had Tandy here in AUS
[1:26] <SwK> heh I had a Tandy 286 heh
[1:26] <SStrife> but they gradually descended from a proper electronics store with kits and parts
[1:26] <SStrife> to a TV/DVD/USB-gadget shop
[1:27] <SStrife> Yeah, Tandy was the name of Radio Shack shops here.
[1:27] <SwK> radioshack in the states is a glorified cellphone electronic gadget shop now
[1:27] <SStrife> not surprising
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[1:27] <SStrife> we had a home-grown electronics store too, Dick Smith Electronics
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[1:28] <SStrife> but they dropped the "electronics" bit not long after Tandy went to crap.
[1:28] <SwK> you can still grab some very common parts, and a few educational kits, they even sell Arduino stuff now, but for the most part its all cellphones, cellphone accessories and over priced computer cables
[1:28] <ShiftPlusOne> We still have jaycar
[1:29] <SStrife> Yeah, JayCar is good if you need something "now"
[1:29] <SStrife> but even their component range seems to be shrinking
[1:29] <SwK> these days I just end up ordering crap from Newark/Element14 or Adafruit heh
[1:29] <ShiftPlusOne> also rockaby electronics in melbourne
[1:29] <ShiftPlusOne> *rockby
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[1:29] <ShiftPlusOne> Much cheaper than e14 or jaycar
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[1:30] <SStrife> There's Prime Electronics here in Brisbane too... i'm sure there's lots of one-man-show places around.
[1:30] <plugwash> swk also don't think all your traces have to be the same size
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[1:30] <Viper-7> http://www.taydaelectronics.com/ are my new Jaycar
[1:30] <SwK> plugwash: the thin traces are eagle autoroute
[1:30] <ShiftPlusOne> Yeah, not all is lost yet =)
[1:30] <SStrife> e14 for convenience though.
[1:30] * plugwash gave up on autoroute ages ago
[1:30] <ShiftPlusOne> I used to like e14 and tolerated their prices because of free shipping
[1:30] <Viper-7> ship to sydney within 4 days, for less than $5, got most of the through-hole components you could ever want ;)
[1:31] <SwK> i'm probably on rev 5 or 6 of the board layouy
[1:31] <ShiftPlusOne> They still kept the old prices and started charging for shipping on orders under a certain amount.
[1:31] <SwK> finally got it close to what I think I want
[1:31] <ShiftPlusOne> It was good that you could order a 5c resistor and have it at your door the next day. >.>
[1:32] <SwK> i just wish we had a Fry's near here heh
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[1:33] <UnaClocker> Fry's is great. :)
[1:34] <SwK> UnaClocker: unfortunately the closest one to me is a 6 hour 1 way drive lol
[1:34] <plugwash> here in the UK maplin used to be great but their range of components got worse and worse over the years :(
[1:34] <UnaClocker> Mmm yeah, I'm about an hour away from one..
[1:37] <mervaka> Viper-7: changing "localhost" to "" as suggested seemed to fix it!
[1:37] <mervaka> plugwash: and pricier
[1:38] <mervaka> but them putting a new flagship store round the corner might sway me for small orders..
[1:39] <SwK> now if I can just get the CNC router and the laser cutter past the GFAF (thats like the WAF) I'll be happy lol
[1:39] <SwK> the only thing i'll be missing is a reflow oven heh
[1:39] <plugwash> mmm, 32p for a resistor :(
[1:39] <mervaka> :s
[1:39] * Coburn|Away is now known as Coburn
[1:39] <Viper-7> mervaka: heh yeah, that`ll do it :P i thought you tried that earlier ;)
[1:39] <Viper-7> inet_addr takes IPs, not hostnames
[1:40] <mervaka> ah
[1:40] <mervaka> bugger
[1:40] <mervaka> i'm rather tired, i must have overlooked that.
[1:40] <Viper-7> leaving it as localhost was probably returning 0, so your sendto was attempting to broadcast, yet didnt have broadcast permissions enabled
[1:41] <mervaka> sounds legit.
[1:41] <SwK> mervaka: C code?
[1:42] <mervaka> SwK: yeah
[1:42] <SwK> mervaka: man gethostbyname
[1:42] <mervaka> thanks. alright for now, just testing locally
[1:42] <Viper-7> i dont think its a drama, the hostname was just localhost ;)
[1:42] <SwK> easy way to handle hostname -> inet_addr translation
[1:42] <mervaka> but will use that later on
[1:42] <Viper-7> now to totally change gears
[1:42] * IT_Sean going to TRY to get his US tuner workiing with TVHeadend
[1:42] <Viper-7> has anyone tried go (golang) on the pi yet?
[1:43] <mervaka> nope :<
[1:43] <SwK> nope
[1:43] <Viper-7> i think i will today :D
[1:43] <SwK> i keep looking to see if someone has done a BF interpretter
[1:43] <mervaka> but i am using some code to mess with the pwm
[1:43] <mervaka> got it running in MS mode
[1:43] <Viper-7> SwK: ive got a few thatd run on it :P
[1:43] <mervaka> etc
[1:43] <SwK> heh
[1:43] <mervaka> wrote that a few months ago now
[1:44] <mervaka> SwK: BF?
[1:44] <Viper-7> +++++++[>+++<-]>...
[1:44] <Viper-7> brainfuck :P
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[1:44] <Viper-7> programming language for a basic state machine
[1:44] <mervaka> ah :)
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[1:44] <mervaka> i know that
[1:44] <mervaka> and dont see the point ;/
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[1:45] <Viper-7> its esoterica sure, but ive found it handy for teaching the basics of state machines / turing completeness
[1:45] <SwK> mervaka: so why? because I can
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[1:46] <mervaka> :p
[1:46] <SwK> thats like why turn a Raspberry PI in to yet another sip phone??? because I can??? and I think its cool
[1:46] <mervaka> that reminds me
[1:47] <mervaka> need to make that voip doorbell
[1:47] <SwK> mervaka: hack a ata into an oldschool door call box
[1:47] <SwK> like a HT286 or something???
[1:48] <mervaka> :p
[1:48] <SwK> I've done that before heh
[1:48] <SwK> actually lol
[1:48] <SwK> RPi Camera + USB audio might make an interesting Video Door box
[1:48] <UnaClocker> I just got done gutting a Sega Genesis case.. Putting a Pi inside.. :) Original controllers will still work, too.
[1:48] * Orion_ (~Orion_@ Quit (Quit: ~ Trillian Astra - www.trillian.im ~)
[1:48] <mervaka> slightly related, i made an ALSA based DTMF decoder the other day
[1:49] <mervaka> for uni coursework
[1:49] <mervaka> uses goertzel algorithm etc
[1:49] <SwK> mervaka: check out spandsp by Steve Underwood??? theres all sorts of nifty telecom related code there, from modem code, to codecs, to tone handling (including DTMF)
[1:50] <mervaka> it was dsp coursework, had to write my own :)
[1:50] <mervaka> but thanks again
[1:50] <SwK> cool
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[1:51] <Viper-7> any ideas on getting a live FFT on the pi`s audio output?
[1:51] <Viper-7> well, spectrum analyser
[1:51] <mervaka> yeah, easy :)
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[1:52] <mervaka> how many bins do you want?
[1:52] <Viper-7> orly? >:D
[1:52] <SwK> get spectrum analyzer, hook it up
[1:52] <mervaka> get that many samples, providing its a power of 2
[1:52] <mervaka> then do fft routine :p
[1:52] <mervaka> https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151481668943767
[1:52] <SwK> i've got some FFT code I need to test on rpi lol
[1:52] <mervaka> not a pi i know
[1:52] <Viper-7> mervaka: i know little about the audio math involved
[1:52] <mervaka> but a ??10 STM32F4 Discovery
[1:52] <Viper-7> but firstly im having a big enough issue just getting hold of the samples
[1:53] <ShiftPlusOne> mervaka, I will probably bugging you about that board later.
[1:53] <mervaka> Viper-7: easy method is to use arecord to pipe data across
[1:53] <mervaka> ShiftPlusOne: ##stm32 :)
[1:53] <mervaka> those guys know far mroe than i do
[1:53] <ShiftPlusOne> mervaka, already in there. Found that channel today.
[1:53] <mervaka> more*
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[1:54] <mervaka> ShiftPlusOne: aha. it's a great board, but not the easiest to get into.
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[1:54] <mervaka> though there's much harder again!
[1:54] <ShiftPlusOne> At least the datasheets and schematics are available.
[1:54] <mervaka> indeed
[1:54] <Viper-7> mervaka: i believe i tried that, and had issues because im using the pi`s analog audio output, which isnt a real audio device
[1:55] <mervaka> hang on
[1:55] <Viper-7> my next resort was MPD, but im trying not to have to go there
[1:55] <mervaka> dont you want an input?
[1:55] <Viper-7> no
[1:55] <mervaka> tell me the project again
[1:56] <Viper-7> the pi will play user supplied media (might be audio, might be video, might be flash, might be anything), and i want to provide hardware visualization from the audio feed, preferably all integrated on the pi
[1:56] <mervaka> ah i see
[1:56] <Viper-7> the hardware side is easy, i just need a) the audio samples, and b) the converted spectrum analyser data points
[1:56] <mervaka> might be easier to get jack involved?
[1:57] <Viper-7> i heard jack and the pi dont play well?
[1:57] <mervaka> oh
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[1:57] <mervaka> so you want analogue input -> fft -> analogue output ?
[1:57] <mervaka> or from file
[1:57] <Viper-7> from file
[1:57] <mervaka> right
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[1:58] <Viper-7> media playback > fork(analog output, fft > visualization routine)
[1:58] <mervaka> in that case, you'll need to make a player. can't say i've done that ;/
[1:58] <Viper-7> ok, what if i simplify the process a ton
[1:58] <mervaka> the STM32F4 i programmed is just barebone deep embedded stylee
[1:58] <Viper-7> i want to playback an mp3 file and provide visualizations
[1:58] <Viper-7> without requiring X :P
[1:59] <mervaka> Viper-7: whatever API you use, it'll likely give you a buffer of samples
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[1:59] <mervaka> and it will call something
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[2:00] <mervaka> so you have a buffer of data ready in the format you requested (say S16 PCM, 48khz, 1024 samples)
[2:00] <Viper-7> yep
[2:00] <mervaka> you need to do an fft on however many samples as you have frequency bins
[2:01] <mervaka> that will fill your bins
[2:01] <mervaka> so if you were sampling at 48k
[2:01] <mervaka> the frequency range would be 0-24k
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[2:02] <Viper-7> i found a few media player plugins that handle the fft / spectrum analysis and give me a nice set of bar values of average or max of certain ranges
[2:02] <mervaka> but 1024 bins would reach all the way up to 48k
[2:02] <mervaka> so half of them are redundant for you anyway
[2:02] <mervaka> middle bin will hold the highest frequency magnitude
[2:02] <mervaka> first bin will hold DC
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[2:03] <mervaka> so, FS=48k,N=1024 will give you bin widths of 46Hz
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[2:04] <mervaka> well, 46.875 (calc was on programmer doh)
[2:04] <Viper-7> hehe
[2:04] <mervaka> so then you display those magnitudes
[2:05] <mervaka> at the same time, pass it to your audio device
[2:05] <mervaka> a good idea to use FIFOs here
[2:05] <Viper-7> yeah, thats where im thinking MPD might do the trick
[2:05] <mervaka> pipe() will do the trick if you're working from basics
[2:06] <Viper-7> so if i only want like.. 8 or 16 bars, do i use a smaller number of bins? or just group and average/max them?
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[2:06] <mervaka> just use 8 or 16 samples
[2:06] <mervaka> remember though, it's a linear output
[2:06] <mervaka> whereas most frequency plots are logarithmic
[2:07] <mervaka> thats why FFTs look large in the low frequencies and get progressively smaller in width
[2:07] <Viper-7> thats fine
[2:07] <mervaka> cool
[2:08] <mervaka> so yeah, grab yourself an FFT algorithm :)
[2:08] <Viper-7> by the end ill have a per-band modifier anyway
[2:08] <Viper-7> as different bands will be driving different lighting devices, and need to trigger at different levels or respond with different brightness curves
[2:08] <mervaka> i use MATLAB to prototype my dsp stuff
[2:09] <Viper-7> im really surprised it isnt a more common thing
[2:09] <Viper-7> i thought people wouldve been stuffing LEDs into their parallel ports for music visualization for decades
[2:09] <mervaka> even to write a math function that takes a 7 bit midi word and convert it into a frequency in log space 20-20khz
[2:09] <Viper-7> of course the gpio on the pi is a little more elegant, but really not much :P
[2:09] <mervaka> got a mate making one of those LED cubes
[2:10] <mervaka> he's using arduino
[2:11] <Viper-7> this is for this: http://viper-7.blogspot.com.au/
[2:11] <Viper-7> :D
[2:12] <Tachyon`> bah, in a bidding war with someone for an old computer on ebay and its about to hit 100 quid -.- over 3 days left too, I'm never going to see that
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[2:13] <ShiftPlusOne> what computer?
[2:13] <Tachyon`> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/290859475394
[2:13] <Tachyon`> curious machine, handheld computer from the 1980s you can code for in C
[2:13] <mervaka> Viper-7: sweet :)
[2:13] <mervaka> did you see the video i posted?
[2:14] <Viper-7> glanced through it
[2:14] <ShiftPlusOne> Tachyon`, nice, but pricey.
[2:14] <Tachyon`> aye, I've been after one for some time
[2:14] <Tachyon`> I have the PB-1000 and a few other casios
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[2:14] <mervaka> got an old TI-52 here :p
[2:14] <Tachyon`> but the PB-2000 might replace the FX-730P I use day to day (which after over 20 years will probably be glad of the rest)
[2:15] <Viper-7> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_8FyDN7eUiMM/SelpcAs9d1I/AAAAAAAAABM/Mcsd27Zun_I/s1600/image004.jpg is just screaming for real-time visualization effects :D
[2:15] <Tachyon`> ah, the TI-52, I've seen those before
[2:15] <mervaka> boxed, too.
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[2:16] <Tachyon`> my max bid is 100 though and it's at 94 with 3 days
[2:16] <Tachyon`> so I doubt I'll get it
[2:16] <mervaka> no chance :p
[2:16] <Tachyon`> the best ones are the FX-890P and Z1-GRa
[2:16] <Tachyon`> but those are rare and pricey
[2:16] <mervaka> stick 100 into a sniper anyway
[2:16] <Tachyon`> (the Z1-GRa has an 80188 CPU and Basic, C and ASM built in
[2:16] <Tachyon`> )
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[2:17] <mervaka> right, bedtime
[2:17] <mervaka> nn
[2:17] <Tachyon`> http://mo5.com/commun/images/ordinateurs/casio/F_z1gr.JPG
[2:17] <Tachyon`> ahh
[2:17] <DeliriumTremens> man..if i could run qemu stable...
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[2:39] <Viper-7> sweet, got samples in a fifo from mpd
[2:41] <netw1z> first in first out?
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[2:42] <DooMMasteR> hey ho
[2:43] <DooMMasteR> I am wondering if there is a fix for the click noises which occur when playin back video via omxplayer
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[2:44] <netw1z> wtf?
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[2:49] <ParkerR> DooMMasteR, That's not omxplayer. That is a click that happens whenever the audio hardware is initialized. There's not a way to fix that short of updated hardware
[2:50] <ParkerR> *Updated/modified
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[2:50] <chithead> or an usb audio dongle
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[2:51] <DooMMasteR> ParkerR: woot??? but the clicking is happening DURING playback with omxplayer
[2:51] <ParkerR> Umm
[2:51] <DooMMasteR> XBMC doesn't do it
[2:51] <ParkerR> Shouldn't be happening during
[2:52] <ParkerR> DooMMasteR, omxplayer had an update fairly recently. Have you updated recently?
[2:52] <DooMMasteR> yepp
[2:54] <Syliss> hmm
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[2:55] <DeliriumTremens> mmmm
[2:56] <DeliriumTremens> QEMU can emulate DOS in CLI
[2:56] <DeliriumTremens> bow chicka
[2:56] <UnaClocker> There's also "dosbox"..
[2:56] <DeliriumTremens> yeah
[2:56] <DeliriumTremens> but dosbox can ONLY run graphically
[2:56] <DeliriumTremens> which aint gonna work for what i need
[2:57] <DeliriumTremens> qemu can redirect from SDL with curses
[2:58] <Hodapp> dosemu can run non-graphically
[2:58] <Hodapp> but dosemu might be x86 only, not sure
[2:59] <ShiftPlusOne> Hodapp, yeah, x86 only.
[2:59] <ShiftPlusOne> misleading name since it uses virtualisation
[2:59] <DeliriumTremens> dosemu will not run on arm
[2:59] <DeliriumTremens> what ShiftPlusOne said
[2:59] <DeliriumTremens> -.-
[3:00] <ShiftPlusOne> Yeah, but also, it won't run on ARM =p
[3:00] <pierut> dont forget that it wont run on arm
[3:00] <ShiftPlusOne> true
[3:00] <DeliriumTremens> wait
[3:00] <DeliriumTremens> can it run on arm tho?
[3:00] <Hodapp> dosemu probably doesn't run on arm though
[3:00] <pierut> :)
[3:00] <ShiftPlusOne> Ok, wait there's a lot of conflicting information here...
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[3:01] <Hodapp> KeatonT: can you settle something for us? does dosemu run on ARM or not?
[3:01] <ParkerR> Dosbox runs just fine without X
[3:01] <KeatonT> o_O
[3:01] <ParkerR> Just launch it fro a tty
[3:02] <ParkerR> Keymap might be messed up in tty though. You have to set the usescancodes arguemnt in the config file
[3:02] <ParkerR> Or something along those lines
[3:02] <DeliriumTremens> ParkerR: then you get into territory i dont know trying to launch that inside BBS sofware, viewable in a telnet session
[3:03] <ShiftPlusOne> pa1983, =/ I remember having a lot of trouble with dosbox and keymap being all messed up. Google didn't turn up anything, so thanks for mentioning that. Hopefuly if I run into that problem again, that will fix it.
[3:03] <ShiftPlusOne> ParkerR,
[3:03] <ShiftPlusOne> *
[3:04] <ParkerR> What?
[3:04] <ParkerR> Oh haha
[3:04] <ParkerR> Yeah keymap was weird at first
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[3:05] <ParkerR> ShiftPlusOne, Whatever config file it loads (you can find the default or create one) add scancodes = false to it
[3:06] <ShiftPlusOne> thanks
[3:07] <Hodapp> I didn't raelize you could launch dosbox that way
[3:07] <Hodapp> now I could set dosbox as my login shell and... uhh... SSH into DOS?
[3:07] <Hodapp> that'd be cool, right?
[3:07] <ParkerR> Naah
[3:07] <Hodapp> maybe it'd be a good prank for a friend
[3:07] <ParkerR> You wouldnt be able to ssh into it
[3:07] <ParkerR> Dosbox uses sdl
[3:08] <Hodapp> oh, so it can run from a tty but still relies on SDL?
[3:08] <DeliriumTremens> what have i started
[3:08] <ParkerR> Hodapp, Yes
[3:08] <ParkerR> That would be neat though. Dosbox that integrates into the default tty
[3:09] <Hodapp> but does it still *output* to the tty? or does it open a framebuffer console or something?
[3:09] <DeliriumTremens> it would be neat if dosemu would just work on ARM
[3:09] * DeliriumTremens frowns
[3:09] <Hodapp> wait, I thought it DID work on ARM
[3:09] <DeliriumTremens> that would solve some, nay ALL of my problems
[3:09] <ShiftPlusOne> not this again >_<
[3:09] <DeliriumTremens> haha
[3:10] <Hodapp> ...if you're running DOS
[3:10] <Hodapp> you will never solve all your problems
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[3:10] <DeliriumTremens> i heard told that this version of qemu runs DOS 6.22 well, but the guy had majorly broken english
[3:10] <DeliriumTremens> so we'll see
[3:10] <DeliriumTremens> with my luck this version wont have curses support -.-
[3:10] <Hodapp> I'd heard QEMU can do neat things like that
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[3:11] <DeliriumTremens> i got the latest stable release to install and run DOS 6.22, but then it would randomly freeze after about 2-3min
[3:11] <DeliriumTremens> and would have to be shut down
[3:12] <DeliriumTremens> while i'm talking, how the heck do i get raspbian to stop blanking the screen
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[3:12] <DeliriumTremens> i tried the xset additions to xinitrc but that didnt work
[3:12] <a1will> anyone up for some newb questions?
[3:13] <Hodapp> fire away
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[3:14] <a1will> ok...new to linux/debian/raspbian...learning as i go...I want to install phantomjs to my pi...am trying to figure out apt-get/ adding repo and basically the general concepts involved with all that...But the bottom line is...I have no idea how to install that program...lol
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[3:19] <ShiftPlusOne> a1will, usually you just 'sudo apt-get install packagename'. I don't know about phantomjs though. It might in the repos, or you might need to compile it yourself
[3:19] <ShiftPlusOne> run 'apt-cache search phantomjs' and see if anything comes up
[3:20] <pksato> why beginners comes with questions about software ever heard? :)
[3:20] <Uthark> alwill: Under latest raspbian, I've found python-pyphantomjs
[3:20] <a1will> python-pyphantomjs - Python porting of phantomjs JavaScript-driven tool
[3:20] <pksato> phantomjs is on debian sid.
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[3:21] <plugwash> It is but the latest version failed to build on armhf, which doesn't bode well for building it on raspbian
[3:21] <ShiftPlusOne> They have the build instructions here if you want to do it manually http://phantomjs.org/build.html
[3:21] <a1will> so apt-get install python-pyphantomjs ?
[3:21] <ShiftPlusOne> ah
[3:21] <pksato> not on testing (wheezy).
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[3:23] <ovnicraft> hello i dd img file in my USB stick, so now i want to boot from it (i have no SD card)
[3:23] <ovnicraft> is possible this ?
[3:23] <SStrife> nope.
[3:23] <ShiftPlusOne> It's possible, but not like that.
[3:23] <ovnicraft> maybe editing cmdline file from img
[3:23] <ShiftPlusOne> The kernel and firmware always had to be loaded from the sdcard
[3:23] <ovnicraft> i am using openelec
[3:23] <SStrife> What ShiftPlusOne said.
[3:25] <SStrife> slow typing today :-/
[3:25] <ShiftPlusOne> openelec is a bit different, there is no point trying to run it off usb.
[3:25] <ShiftPlusOne> stick to the sdcard for openelec
[3:25] <a1will> After this operation, 25.5 MB of additional disk space will be used.
[3:25] <a1will> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
[3:25] <a1will> Abort.
[3:25] <a1will> That is what i get when i try to build it
[3:25] <SStrife> that just means apt-get is pro-choice. :P
[3:25] <a1will> ?
[3:25] <SStrife> "Abort"
[3:25] <SStrife> just a joke, never mind. :0
[3:26] <a1will> i understood the joke
[3:26] <a1will> not the output
[3:26] * ShiftPlusOne just got it >.>
[3:26] <ShiftPlusOne> a1will, forget it, it doesn't build on raspbian, as plug said.
[3:26] <a1will> k
[3:26] <ShiftPlusOne> You could try debian
[3:26] <a1will> https://github.com/piksel/phantomjs-raspberrypi
[3:26] <SStrife> yeah, "Abort" is never a good sign after apt-get
[3:26] <a1will> that is from the creators github i believe
[3:27] <ShiftPlusOne> a1will, that looks promising, yes.
[3:27] <ShiftPlusOne> do you know how to use git?
[3:27] <ShiftPlusOne> sudo apt-get install git
[3:27] <ShiftPlusOne> git clone https://github.com/piksel/phantomjs-raspberrypi.git
[3:27] <ShiftPlusOne> or just wget https://github.com/piksel/phantomjs-raspberrypi/raw/master/bin/phantomjs
[3:28] <a1will> ok...let me try that....and let me thank you in advance...
[3:28] <ShiftPlusOne> which method are you using? git or downloading directly?
[3:29] <a1will> git
[3:29] <ShiftPlusOne> ok, good luck
[3:29] <SStrife> git rocks
[3:30] <a1will> once i need this set up i may need some javascript help and some ffmpeg help...but I'll try my best before i break down and cry uncle...lol
[3:31] <pksato> http://packages.debian.org/sid/armhf/phantomjs/download
[3:31] <ShiftPlusOne> isn't that for the wrong architecture?
[3:31] <a1will> Trying to build an automated Ingress monitor, so I can make videos of battles and strategies
[3:32] <pksato> no, armhf, but, is old version.
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[3:33] <pksato> and, not sure if run on RPi.
[3:33] <ShiftPlusOne> "Currently the Debian armhf port requires at least an ARMv7 CPU with Thumb-2 and VFP3D16."
[3:34] <ShiftPlusOne> so... wrong arch, Pi is ARMv6... which is why we have raspbian =)
[3:36] <a1will> fatal: could not create work tree dir 'phantomjs-raspberrypi'.: No space left on device
[3:36] <a1will> lol
[3:36] <a1will> fml
[3:36] <ShiftPlusOne> a1will, did you expand the filesystem to fill the sdcard?
[3:36] <ShiftPlusOne> (in raspi-config, the tool that comes up when you boot for the first time, the option was there)
[3:36] <a1will> its all foggy..lol..I set my pi up 2-3 months ago..then left it sit untouched until i dreampt this project up
[3:36] <pksato> Yes... I forget it. age memory fail. :)
[3:37] <a1will> easy way to check?
[3:37] <ShiftPlusOne> a1will, can you pastebin the output of df -h ?
[3:38] <ShiftPlusOne> or just check what it says the root (/) partiotion free space and size is.
[3:38] <ShiftPlusOne> partoition? O_o
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[3:41] <a1w1ll> dafuq irc crashed
[3:41] <a1w1ll> http://pastebin.com/sGn9ubUf is the output
[3:41] <ParkerR> a1w1ll, Yeah
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[3:41] <ParkerR> Get a bigger sd card or expand your partition :P
[3:42] <a1w1ll> 4gb card
[3:42] <a1w1ll> looks like its full?
[3:42] <ParkerR> a1w1ll, Expand the rootfs
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[3:42] <ShiftPlusOne> run 'sudo raspi-config'
[3:42] <ovnicraft> a1w1ll: yes yo have no space in your SD
[3:42] <ovnicraft> you*
[3:43] <ShiftPlusOne> Unless this was a long time ago.. in which case there is no raspi-config and you should update or, better yet, flash a new image.
[3:43] <ParkerR> Gaah
[3:43] <a1w1ll> odd...how much space does raspbian install take? I dont really have anything on it
[3:43] <ParkerR> Or just expand the rootfs
[3:43] <ParkerR> And keep what you have now
[3:43] <a1w1ll> should i expand rootfs to fill partition?
[3:44] <ParkerR> Yes
[3:44] <ShiftPlusOne> definitely
[3:44] <ParkerR> rootfs to fill the SD card
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[3:44] <ParkerR> You can use something like gparted on your computer
[3:44] <ShiftPlusOne> If he has raspi-config, why bother with gparted?
[3:44] <a1w1ll> expanded and rebooting
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[3:44] <ParkerR> ShiftPlusOne, Because gparted is more fun :P
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[3:45] <ShiftPlusOne> Yeah, I use gparted straight after flashing the image, but he sounds like a windows user
[3:45] <a1w1ll> since irc crashed i dont have that command for github :(
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[3:45] <ShiftPlusOne> <ShiftPlusOne> sudo apt-get install git
[3:45] <ShiftPlusOne> <ShiftPlusOne> git clone https://github.com/piksel/phantomjs-raspberrypi.git
[3:46] <ParkerR> ShiftPlusOne, Never assume. You just make an ass out of u and me
[3:46] <a1w1ll> ty shift
[3:46] <ShiftPlusOne> ParkerR, dumbest saying ever
[3:46] <ParkerR> ShiftPlusOne, :P
[3:46] <a1w1ll> anyone see that pi store?
[3:47] <ParkerR> Yeah
[3:47] <a1w1ll> I installed that just to take a look at it...but it didnt populate in the programs my gui shows...am i missing something?
[3:47] <risc> ________
[3:47] <risc> < HI ALL >
[3:47] <risc> --------
[3:47] <risc> \ ,+*^^*+___+++_
[3:47] <risc> \ ,*^^^^ )
[3:47] <risc> \ _+* ^**+_
[3:47] <ParkerR> It installs to its own folder
[3:47] <risc> \ +^ _ _++*+_+++_, )
[3:47] <risc> _+^^*+_ ( ,+*^ ^ \+_ )
[3:47] <risc> { ) ( ,( ,_+--+--, ^) ^\
[3:47] * ChanServ sets mode +o ShiftPlusOne
[3:47] <risc> { (@) } f ,( ,+-^ __*_*_ ^^\_ ^\ )
[3:47] <ParkerR> a1w1ll, It installs to its own folder
[3:47] * risc was kicked from #raspberrypi by ShiftPlusOne
[3:47] <ParkerR> ...
[3:48] <ParkerR> I have to just ask why
[3:48] <ackthet> _____________________________________
[3:48] <ackthet> < Thats no cowsay... THIS IS A COWSAY >
[3:48] <ackthet> -------------------------------------
[3:48] <ackthet> \ ,+*^^*+___+++_
[3:48] <ackthet> \ ,*^^^^ )
[3:48] <ParkerR> wtf
[3:48] <ackthet> \ _+* ^**+_
[3:48] <ackthet> \ +^ _ _++*+_+++_, )
[3:48] <ackthet> _+^^*+_ ( ,+*^ ^ \+_ )
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[3:48] <ackthet> { ) ( ,( ,_+--+--, ^) ^\
[3:48] <ackthet> { (@) } f ,( ,+-^ __*_*_ ^^\_ ^\ )
[3:48] <ackthet> {:;-/ (_+*-+^^^^^+*+*<_ _++_)_ ) ) /
[3:48] * ShiftPlusOne sets mode +b *!*ackthet@hyperion.endless.li
[3:48] * ackthet was kicked from #raspberrypi by ShiftPlusOne
[3:48] <ParkerR> What was that all about...
[3:49] <debenham> ShiftPlusOne: thanks ;)
[3:49] <pierut> it looks more like a turkey than a cow to me
[3:49] <telnoratti> _____________________
[3:49] <telnoratti> < For the Republic! >
[3:49] <telnoratti> -------------------
[3:49] <telnoratti> \ ,+*^^*+___+++_
[3:49] <telnoratti> \ ,*^^^^ )
[3:49] <ParkerR> ...
[3:49] <telnoratti> \ _+* ^**+_
[3:49] <telnoratti> \ +^ _ _++*+_+++_, )
[3:49] <telnoratti> _+^^*+_ ( ,+*^ ^ \+_ )
[3:49] * ShiftPlusOne sets mode +b *!telnoratti@*.com
[3:49] * telnoratti was kicked from #raspberrypi by ShiftPlusOne
[3:49] <ParkerR> ShiftPlusOne, :<
[3:49] <pierut> is it a turkey >_>
[3:49] <ParkerR> I mean :) because of kicking
[3:50] <ParkerR> :< because of spam
[3:50] * ShiftPlusOne sets mode +b *!telnoratti@*
[3:50] * ShiftPlusOne sets mode +b *!*ackthet@*
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[3:51] <ParkerR> ShiftPlusOne, dont forget risc
[3:51] <ShiftPlusOne> haven't
[3:51] <risc> yeah don't forget me :)
[3:51] <pierut> risc architecture is gonna change everything
[3:52] * ShiftPlusOne sets mode +b *!toor@*
[3:52] * risc was kicked from #raspberrypi by ShiftPlusOne
[3:53] * ShiftPlusOne sets mode +b *!*@hyperion.endless.li
[3:53] <a1w1ll> I installed it correctly...
[3:54] <pierut> \o/
[3:54] <pronto> ...now i want turkey
[3:54] <pierut> with mayo and cracked peppercorns om nom nom
[3:54] * ShiftPlusOne sets mode -b *!telnoratti@*.com
[3:55] * ShiftPlusOne sets mode -b *!*ackthet@hyperion.endless.li
[3:55] <a1w1ll> do i type script right into the cli? or do i make a "file" with it?
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[3:56] <a1w1ll> I realize I probably sound slightly retarded
[3:56] <pierut> not at all
[3:56] <ParkerR> a1w1ll, I would say probably just run the phantomjs executable
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[3:57] <a1w1ll> dont see an exetable in the folder
[3:57] <ParkerR> a1w1ll, The bin folder
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[3:58] <a1w1ll> yes..I click on the phatomjs that is in that....and it wants me to choose a program to open that iwth
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[3:58] <ParkerR> a1w1ll, No run that in a terminal
[3:58] <ParkerR> cd to that folde rthen ./phantomjs
[3:59] <ParkerR> *folder
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[4:01] <a1w1ll> -bash: ./phantomjs: Permission denied
[4:01] <ShiftPlusOne> chmod +x phantomjs
[4:02] <ParkerR> Hmm if you cloned it from a git repo it should have executable perms set unless the author didnt set it
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[4:02] <ParkerR> *cloned
[4:02] <ShiftPlusOne> I think the author nubbed it up a little.
[4:02] <a1w1ll> i cant run chmod +x phantomjs while i'm cd'd to the specific folder?
[4:02] <ParkerR> a1w1ll, Yes you can
[4:02] <ShiftPlusOne> you have to run it from the specific folder
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[4:03] <a1w1ll> got it
[4:03] <ShiftPlusOne> (or specify the full or relative path, but nvrm that)
[4:03] <ParkerR> a1w1ll, Now ./phantomjs
[4:03] <a1w1ll> phantomjs>
[4:03] <a1w1ll> yay
[4:03] <ParkerR> Ok you are in
[4:03] <ShiftPlusOne> yay
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[4:03] <ParkerR> Now what is phantomjs exactly?
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[4:03] <ParkerR> Heard about it a little but never looked into it
[4:03] <pierut> its what hes gonna use to hack the gibson
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[4:04] <a1w1ll> headless browser sort of thing
[4:04] <ShiftPlusOne> "PhantomJS is a headless WebKit with JavaScript API." what's there not to get?
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[4:04] <ParkerR> ShiftPlusOne, Usage details :P
[4:04] <ShiftPlusOne> I haven't figured out what the hell it is either
[4:04] <a1w1ll> I'm gonna use it to set scripts to take screenshots of specific locations of ingress map at regular intervals
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[4:05] <a1w1ll> so I can creat videos from the screenshots...showing time elapsed "battles"
[4:05] <a1w1ll> I assume you know what ingress is?
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[4:06] <ParkerR> That weird Google location based game thingy?
[4:06] <a1w1ll> ya
[4:06] <ParkerR> Never really understood that either
[4:06] <a1w1ll> l6 resistance here...represent...lol
[4:07] <a1w1ll> really just a trick to crowdsource the refinement of location data...lol
[4:07] <ParkerR> Haha
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[4:08] <ParkerR> Assuming I have a smartphone :<
[4:09] <a1w1ll> https://github.com/ariya/phantomjs/wiki/Quick-Start
[4:10] <a1w1ll> I dont see anywhere in the script where it's specifying where to output the png
[4:10] <ParkerR> Oh neat
[4:10] <a1w1ll> er wait
[4:10] <ParkerR> Grabbing screenshots of pages
[4:10] <a1w1ll> thats not a screenshot sscript
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[4:12] <pksato> a1w1ll: screenshot of a webpage?
[4:12] <a1w1ll> yes
[4:13] <a1w1ll> in intel map for ingress in browser based
[4:13] <Torikun> yo
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[4:13] <a1w1ll> What I need to do is set one up for each of many specified locations..and set them up hourly with chron..somehow get the output to go to dropbox shared folders..so i can distribute links to them to member of my community...
[4:13] <pksato> firt Page Loading exemple.
[4:13] <ParkerR> *First
[4:14] <pksato> sleepiness
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[4:16] <a1w1ll> http://pastebin.com/NWxBeq4S output for the page load example
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[4:18] <Tachyon`> possibly a silly question but does the gertboard use 5v or 3v3 logic?
[4:18] <Tachyon`> I noticeed a 3.3v point on it, might be problematic if it's all 3.3
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[4:22] <pierut> i heard earlier in here that it takes the 5v from the gpio and converts it to 3.3v
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[4:24] <Tachyon`> ahh, hrm, damn, I'll have to R the FM now -.o
[4:25] <ShiftPlusOne> You should always R it >=/
[4:25] <pierut> arr
[4:25] <john_f> gpio uses 3.3v logic, dunno what the buffer supports
[4:25] <john_f> on the gert
[4:26] <john_f> i would expect 5v to work but idk
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[5:11] <pierut> ded
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[5:14] <Scriven> Have a LCD coming for my pi. 4.3" reverse camera one from ebay.
[5:14] <ParkerR> pierut, Indeed
[5:14] * Scriven crosses his fingers.
[5:14] <ParkerR> Scriven, Nice. What do you plan to use it for?
[5:14] <Scriven> portable pi project, have almost everything else!
[5:14] <Scriven> bluetooth dongle enroute.
[5:14] <Scriven> nano dongle working just fine.
[5:15] <ParkerR> Meh. Pi over composite and 4.3" is pretty much usless
[5:15] <ParkerR> Too small
[5:15] <Scriven> yeah, when the bank can afford it, I'll be getting another screen for a touchscreen.
[5:15] <Scriven> 4.3" capacitive touchscreen
[5:15] <Scriven> that'll be most of my interface when I'm done.
[5:16] <ParkerR> Scriven, This is my portable Pi http://i.minus.com/iI1QnllhXex4t.JPG
[5:16] <pierut> wish i could click that
[5:16] <Scriven> Nice, how'd you interface the lcd?
[5:16] <ParkerR> pierut, Not able to?
[5:16] <Scriven> Have tons of dead laptops around right now!
[5:16] <ParkerR> Scriven, HDMI
[5:16] <pierut> irssi in tty
[5:16] <pierut> on raspi on my tv :>
[5:16] <ParkerR> Scriven, It's not a dead laptop
[5:16] <Scriven> OIC!
[5:17] <Scriven> Can do HDMI in from pi?
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[5:17] <ParkerR> Scriven, http://www.amazon.com/AT-Laptop-Dock-Motorola-ATRIX/dp/B004M17D62
[5:17] <ParkerR> Scriven, No. Just outout.
[5:17] <ParkerR> *output
[5:17] <ShiftPlusOne> you should do something about that dust
[5:17] <ParkerR> ShiftPlusOne, That's normal usage for me :/
[5:18] <ParkerR> And dust doesn't show up until flash fires XD
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[5:22] <pierut> i like how the raspberry pi runs completely silent
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[5:22] <pierut> unlike my jet engine of a desktop
[5:22] <pierut> its so peaceful in my apartment right now
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[5:23] <ivotkl> I will love it too when it gets here. =P
[5:23] <pierut> :>
[5:24] <ivotkl> Parker, are you using a dead laptop to hook it up and use it with Pi as mainboard?
[5:24] <pierut> i nearly had a brain hemmorage waiting for mine
[5:24] <pierut> the mail lady forgot to deliver it and had to come back... but not before i went to the post office to hunt her down
[5:24] <ivotkl> pierut, where have you ordered it?
[5:25] <pierut> element 14
[5:25] <ivotkl> Oh, is it that bad? Mine comes from RS delivers and I was told I made an awful choice. =P
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[5:25] <pierut> well mine actually arrived quickly
[5:26] <pierut> i was just impatient :)
[5:26] <Scriven> Neat idea ParkerR !
[5:26] <ivotkl> How long? 2 weeks?
[5:26] <ivotkl> Parker, teach us. =P
[5:26] <ivotkl> Is that a dead lappy?
[5:26] <pierut> more like 4 or 5 days
[5:27] <ivotkl> Then I hate you. =P
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[5:27] <pierut> ;p
[5:27] <ivotkl> Though I'm in Argentina. So timings are far more different here. =P
[5:27] <pierut> i'm sure
[5:27] <ParkerR> ivotkl, http://www.amazon.com/AT-Laptop-Dock-Motorola-ATRIX/dp/B004M17D62
[5:27] <Scriven> Bah, need a recommendation for a good >=4 port usb hub, the one I was using turned out to suck power-wise... wifi only worked in port nearest power. :(
[5:27] <Scriven> bbiab, time for a smoke.
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[5:28] <ivotkl> I'm still waiting for RS to send me that e-mail they were supposed to telling me package left their warehouse.
[5:28] <ShiftPlusOne> wouldn't count on it =(
[5:28] <ivotkl> Parker, how did you hook pi to that? Through dock or made some modifications to it?
[5:28] <ParkerR> ivotkl, Naah just a small HDMI adpater
[5:28] <ivotkl> ShiftPlusOne, I know. I was told they suck at delivering. =P
[5:29] <ivotkl> Oh... I see... HDMI -> USB?
[5:29] <ParkerR> Full HDMI male to micro HDMI female
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[5:29] <ivotkl> Ohhhhhhhhhh
[5:29] <ivotkl> Great!
[5:29] <ivotkl> Congrats. =P
[5:29] <ParkerR> ivotkl, http://i.minus.com/iQXy1aNQLHMgO.JPG
[5:29] <ShiftPlusOne> for the keyboard/hub/power you'll probably need to modify a cable or use an adapter as well.
[5:30] <ParkerR> Just one cable needed if you have a Model B rev 2
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[5:30] <ShiftPlusOne> it backfeeds?
[5:30] <ParkerR> Yep
[5:30] <ShiftPlusOne> hm
[5:30] <ParkerR> Since it originally cgarged a phone
[5:30] <ParkerR> *charged
[5:30] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah 'course
[5:31] <ivotkl> Does lap thingie from Motorola have its own battery?
[5:31] <ParkerR> Screen, keyboard, mouse, speakers, USB hub, and battery
[5:31] <ParkerR> Got it on sale
[5:31] <pierut> for?
[5:31] <ParkerR> $39
[5:31] <pierut> =o
[5:32] <ParkerR> It was here http://www.bensoutlet.com/products/motorola-lapdock-atrix-4g
[5:32] <ShiftPlusOne> I've got one, but the hdmi cable is dodgy, so I can't use it yet =(
[5:32] <pierut> i've been seeing them but didnt think i would shell out money for one.. but $39 is pretty cheap
[5:32] <ParkerR> Note "was"
[5:32] <SStrife> anyone here got any experience with the windows Arduino IDE?
[5:32] <ShiftPlusOne> Do you have a link to the hdmi adaptor?
[5:32] <clueful> I'm experiencing a weird problem where my usb ext. hdd seems to stop working and autoremount in ro mode, is this a common problem?
[5:32] <clueful> sstrife: I've used it a very small amount
[5:33] <SStrife> I think it might be ignoring my avrdude.conf
[5:33] <ivotkl> Wait, I'm not getting it. Does it come with any processor or would it be provided by phone / Pi?
[5:33] <ParkerR> ShiftPlusOne, I got it here but you can get it for much cheaper on ebay http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B008LRJBY0/ref=oh_details_o04_s00_i00
[5:33] <Neal_> ParkerR: i like how list price is $499 on that
[5:33] <ParkerR> Neal_, Yeah phone was discontinued
[5:33] <ParkerR> So the price dropped
[5:33] <ShiftPlusOne> ParkerR, thanks
[5:33] <SStrife> i'm trying to compile stuff for the atmega on gertboard,
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[5:34] <clueful> sstrife not sure i'm much help i've jused default settings and programmed over usb
[5:34] <Neal_> wait, so that product was really $499 at one point?
[5:34] <SStrife> ah ok
[5:34] <ParkerR> Neal_, Mhmm. Probably why it didnt sell a lot
[5:34] <Neal_> wow
[5:34] <ParkerR> Phone was about that price
[5:34] <pierut> im jammin with the console cowboys in cyberspace
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[5:34] <Neal_> yeah, it's the first time i just saw it
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[5:34] <ParkerR> So phone and dock was overkill
[5:34] <Neal_> it's pretty cool actually
[5:36] <ParkerR> Neal_, http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6KYVmuZuCW9Stge13XeyVrYjGmtsue4X
[5:38] <Neal_> ParkerR: are you from openiBoot/libimobiledevice?
[5:38] <ParkerR> Neal_, :D
[5:38] <ParkerR> Yessir
[5:39] <Neal_> :)
[5:39] <Neal_> your name sounded familiar
[5:39] <ParkerR> Neal_, Are you from there too?
[5:39] <Neal_> well, iPhone/iOS scene mainly
[5:40] <ParkerR> Ahh
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[5:43] <pierut> anyone get gpm and/or netsurf-fb to work on the pi
[5:44] <pierut> ?
[5:44] <ParkerR> pierut, Yeah netsurf-fb working for me
[5:44] <ParkerR> gpm works too
[5:44] <pierut> i just get a black screen and nothing reponds
[5:45] <pierut> hm
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[5:45] <ParkerR> pierut, netsurf-fb -b 16 -w <terminalwidth> -h <terminalheight>
[5:45] <pierut> wish i could copy/paste that
[5:45] <pierut> :p
[5:45] <ParkerR> Not that long :P
[5:46] <ParkerR> And a lot of it you replace witht he terminal resolution
[5:46] <pierut> how do i find my terminal width and height
[5:46] <ParkerR> *with
[5:46] <ParkerR> pierut, What resolution is the Pi outputting at?
[5:46] <pierut> i assume 720p
[5:46] <pierut> but im not certain about that
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[5:47] <ParkerR> pierut, Well just try netsurf-fb -b 16 for now
[5:47] <pierut> ill give it a shot ;)
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[5:50] <ParkerR> Haha he had to reboot
[5:51] <ivotkl> LOL... Where could I find a nice tutorial on how to setup Pi?
[5:51] <ParkerR> ivotkl, Many places
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[5:52] <ivotkl> I mean, I know basic stuff about inserting preinstalled SDHC card and stuff, but I need to know how to set it up for let's say 720p output like pierut just mentioned.
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[5:52] <ParkerR> ivotkl, http://elinux.org/RPiconfig
[5:53] <pierut> well.. it worked until i tried to switch ttys
[5:53] <ParkerR> pierut, Thats how I kill it
[5:53] <ParkerR> that should work
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[5:54] * pierut shrugs
[5:54] <pierut> links works for now :)
[5:54] <ParkerR> pierut, What happened when you tried switchin to another tty?
[5:54] <ParkerR> *switching
[5:55] <pierut> the screen went black and i couldnt do anything
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[5:56] <pierut> gpm works though
[5:56] <pierut> didnt work on arch when i tried it
[5:57] <ParkerR> pierut, when you select it copies and middle click pastes
[5:57] <ParkerR> Great in tty
[5:57] <pierut> yar
[5:57] <pierut> i've used it before :>
[5:57] <ParkerR> pierut, That because in arch services dont start by default
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[5:57] <pierut> i started it manually
[5:57] <ParkerR> sudo systemctl enable gpm
[5:57] <pierut> not like that though >_>
[5:58] <ParkerR> pierut, Also needs /etc/gpm.conf edited
[5:58] <pierut> oh
[5:58] <ParkerR> Maybe
[5:58] <ParkerR> I think just the enable line is enough
[5:58] <ParkerR> That makes it start at bot
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[5:59] <ParkerR> sudo systemctl start gpm will do it when you want it to
[5:59] <ParkerR> Lack of framebuffernetsurf was sad though
[5:59] <ParkerR> *framebuffer netsurf
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[6:00] <ParkerR> It's in AUR but the PKGBUILD links to some old dependency names
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[6:00] <pierut> i didnt look for it in arch
[6:00] <pierut> i found it by searching the apt-cache in raspbian
[6:00] <pierut> for 'framebuffer'
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[6:00] <znode> w/ NickServ
[6:01] <ParkerR> Honestly Chromum has been working for me. Yes a little slow but loads pages correctly
[6:01] <ParkerR> *Chromium
[6:01] <pierut> well, im trying to avoid using x
[6:01] <Tachyon`> 256 or 512?
[6:01] <ParkerR> 512
[6:01] <Tachyon`> ahh
[6:01] <clear`> looking at my network information in openelec, my mac address and internet keeps going to "busy"
[6:01] <clear`> is that normal?
[6:01] <Tachyon`> Ididn't have much luck on my original pi, not tried on the new on eyet
[6:01] <ParkerR> Although its not ram usage that kills it
[6:01] <ParkerR> CPU
[6:01] <Tachyon`> yes, that's normal
[6:01] <ParkerR> Because of javascript and such
[6:01] <clear`> you sure?
[6:01] <Tachyon`> well, I've noticed it happen on mine
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[6:02] <Tachyon`> you mean the xmbc system info screen aye?
[6:02] <clear`> well atleast im not the only one then lol
[6:02] <clear`> doesnt seem normal to me
[6:02] <Tachyon`> xbmc even
[6:02] <clear`> yea
[6:02] <Tachyon`> yeah, the net is fine, it's just that page that's slow at displaying it
[6:02] <Tachyon`> don't worry about it
[6:03] <ParkerR> pierut, I go mostly without X but not having a framebuffer web browser that supports javascript is kinda disappointing
[6:03] <clear`> does openelec have a decent ftp client
[6:03] <pierut> yea
[6:03] <pierut> i do have a desktop that is entirely capable though
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[6:04] <pierut> if the pi were my main pc i might be a little more concerned
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[6:05] <ParkerR> My Pi has become my new on the go machine only because my laptop is so freaking big
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[6:06] <pierut> yea
[6:06] <pierut> im more of a netbook fan than laptop
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[6:06] <ParkerR> pierut, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/71679/mcd.jpg
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[6:08] <pierut> :D
[6:08] <SuperLag> ParkerR: is that an Atrix front?
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[6:09] <ParkerR> SuperLag, Yes
[6:09] <SuperLag> ParkerR: still looks like a laptop to me.
[6:09] <pierut> i had to paste that in a file, start x and load midori to see that :P
[6:09] <ParkerR> Haha
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[6:09] <SuperLag> Linux rpi 3.6.11-6-ARCH+ #1 PREEMPT Mon Feb 11 02:33:03 UTC 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux
[6:09] <ParkerR> pierut, You could have just copied with gpm then links2 -g <middleclickhere>
[6:10] <pierut> does links2 support images?
[6:10] <ParkerR> Another framebuffer web browser (with the -g mode) but less intrsuive. You can exit with q + enter
[6:10] <pierut> oh cool
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[6:13] <clear`> Tachyon`: are you using wifi?
[6:13] <ParkerR> Happy Valentine's Day everyone
[6:14] <ivotkl> ParkerR, Thank you. Will review it later.
[6:14] <ivotkl> Hahaha, likewise dude. I'm single though. XD
[6:14] <clear`> ParkerR: <3
[6:14] <ParkerR> <3
[6:14] <ParkerR> ivotkl, same
[6:16] <pierut> hee links2 is purdy
[6:18] <ivotkl> <3
[6:18] <ivotkl> Hahaha, this was gayish. =P
[6:18] <ivotkl> But I'm not homophobic, so... =)
[6:18] <ivotkl> Spread the love. =D
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[6:19] <clear`> lol
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[6:19] <clear`> wished my local network would spread the love
[6:19] <clear`> transfer from this pc to the pi = 1MB/s
[6:19] <clear`> boo
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[6:20] <ParkerR> clear`, That's good for the Pi...
[6:21] <ParkerR> That's what I've got out of all of my devices on my local network
[6:21] <ivotkl> Are there any speed connection limits on the Pi?
[6:21] <ParkerR> About 1MB/s if not a little faster
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[6:22] <pierut> way better than dialup :P
[6:22] <ivotkl> Hahaha. I believe dialup started 20 years ago, if not more.
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[6:22] * pierut mimics modem noises
[6:23] <ParkerR> The real source of the dialup tone https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FG1AQcGGSec
[6:23] <pierut> i dont think i can swing that link
[6:23] * Lupinedk is now known as lupinedk
[6:24] <pierut> i read this infographic detailing the dialup handshake recently though
[6:24] <ParkerR> pierut, Haha how wrong you are. INstall omxplayer, Get youtube-dl from
[6:24] <ParkerR> sudo wget http://youtube-dl.org/downloads/2013.02.02/youtube-dl -O /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl
[6:24] <ParkerR> sudo chmod a+x /usr/local/bin/youtube-dl
[6:25] <pierut> ;p
[6:25] <ParkerR> Then omxplayer -o hdmi $(youtube-dl -g "<pastelinkhere>")
[6:25] <pierut> you're like a raspberry pi pro :P
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[6:27] <clear`> seems slow to me!
[6:27] <clear`> through wifi it didnt go over 50kb/s
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[6:27] <xrosnight> hello guys :)
[6:28] <ParkerR> clear`, That's not normal
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[6:28] <clear`> tell me about it
[6:29] <ParkerR> it - pronoun - Used to refer to a thing previously mentioned or easily identified
[6:30] <pierut> haha that video is kinda creepy
[6:30] <pierut> :D
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[6:30] <ParkerR> pierut, :D glad my tutorial worked for you
[6:30] <pierut> ^__^
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[6:31] <pierut> now i wonder how i turn that command into a script i can run with the url following
[6:31] <ParkerR> pierut,
[6:31] <ParkerR> Hehe
[6:31] <pierut> :x
[6:32] <ParkerR> pierut, Check PM
[6:32] <ParkerR> chmod +x that script and then just ./scriptname youtubeurl
[6:33] <pierut> awesome
[6:34] <pierut> calling the script youtube seems appropriate
[6:34] <pierut> :D
[6:34] <ParkerR> pierut, Now if you want to go one step further I can get you a command line youtube browser
[6:34] <clear`> how about a pandora player script :P
[6:34] <ParkerR> clear`, pianobar
[6:34] <ParkerR> In the repos
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[6:35] <pierut> i love pianobar
[6:35] <pierut> i was messing with it earlier but i couldnt remember my pandora login
[6:35] <clear`> havent used pianobar
[6:35] <ParkerR> clear`, If it gives you a tls error add this line to ~/.config/pianobar/config tls_fingerprint = 2D0AFDAFA16F4B5C0A43F3CB1D4752F9535507C0
[6:35] <pierut> cli apps are ftw
[6:36] <pierut> hm oic
[6:36] <ParkerR> Make the folder and file as needed
[6:37] <ParkerR> pierut, Want that command line youtube browser?
[6:38] <pierut> sure
[6:39] <ParkerR> pierut, sudo apt-get install git python-setuptools
[6:39] <ParkerR> git clone git://github.com/rjw57/yt.git
[6:39] <ParkerR> cd yt
[6:39] <ParkerR> sudo python setup.py install
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[6:40] <ParkerR> pierut, Then after that use yt --player omxplayer to run
[6:40] <pierut> okie dokie
[6:40] <ParkerR> You can use a script or an alias in .bashrc to make that easier to run
[6:40] <pierut> thanks ;D
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[6:43] <ParkerR> pierut, Best thing about that is you can run that in an SSHsession at it will play on the screen connected to the Pi
[6:43] <ParkerR> *SSH session
[6:44] * Mr_Sheesh_AFK is now known as Mr_Sheesh
[6:44] <ParkerR> Wb Mr_Sheesh
[6:46] <pierut> i accidentally just overwrote /bin/bash
[6:46] <pierut> @____@
[6:47] <clear`> i cant write to the storage folder on openelec sdcard!
[6:48] <ParkerR> pierut, quickly sudo apt-get remove bash && sudo apt-get install bash
[6:48] <ParkerR> (God I hope nothing breaks)
[6:48] <pierut> tryin, getting errors D=
[6:48] <ParkerR> pierut, Oh yeah stuf depends on bash
[6:48] <ParkerR> pierut, DONT touch anything
[6:49] <pierut> ok
[6:49] <pierut> lol
[6:49] <ParkerR> pierut, sudo aptitude reinstall bash
[6:49] * pierut crosses fingers
[6:50] * cccy_RegeaneWolf is now known as cccyRegeaneWolfe
[6:50] <clear`> nice that openelec does plug and play
[6:50] <clear`> raspbian didnt detect my external drive or flash drives
[6:50] <pierut> E: Internal Error, No file name for bash:armhf
[6:50] <clear`> had to mount them manually
[6:50] <pierut> ;s
[6:51] <pierut> i borked it
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[6:51] <ParkerR> pierut, Maybe sudo apt-get install --reinstall bash
[6:52] <pierut> nopes :/
[6:52] <pierut> maybe someone could just dcc me the file
[6:52] <pierut> ;s
[6:54] <ParkerR> pierut, Ok one last ditch effort. wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/71679/bash && sudo cp bash /bin/bash && sudo chmod a+x /bin/bash
[6:54] <ParkerR> Thats the armhf bash binary
[6:55] <pierut> haha
[6:55] <pierut> it segfaults
[6:55] <pierut> im boned
[6:55] <ParkerR> D;
[6:55] <pierut> :D
[6:55] <ParkerR> :D?
[6:56] <pierut> looks like im dding the image again ;x
[6:56] <Zarek_> try
[6:56] <Zarek_> wait, what segfaults, wget?
[6:56] <pierut> bash
[6:56] <Zarek_> try wget http://makoto.akiwiguy.net/bash
[6:57] <Zarek_> i just extracted it from the latest .deb
[6:57] <ParkerR> Me too :P
[6:57] <Zarek_> heh
[6:57] <ParkerR> armhf 1,381.2 kB 3,602.0 kB
[6:57] <Zarek_> md5sum the binary?
[6:58] <Zarek_> 0ac08f1dae521dbd1430a137af86e5d0 bash
[6:58] <ParkerR> 47ba630ddb5473f50258ac70d905d3d6 bash
[6:58] <Zarek_> hmm
[6:58] <ParkerR> Ohh pierut try his
[6:58] <ParkerR> Worth a shot now
[6:58] <pierut> ok
[6:59] <pierut> segfault ;z
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[6:59] <ParkerR> Welp
[6:59] <Zarek_> :/
[6:59] <ParkerR> pierut, What are you doing that it segfault?
[6:59] <pierut> :z
[6:59] <ParkerR> exit the relogging in?
[7:00] <pierut> no
[7:00] <pierut> just running bash
[7:00] <ParkerR> Nooo you are *in* bash
[7:00] <pierut> oh
[7:00] <pierut> no
[7:00] <pierut> im in sh
[7:00] <ParkerR> Have to restart it and hope its not broken
[7:00] <pierut> i switched it
[7:00] <ParkerR> Ahh
[7:00] <ParkerR> Weird
[7:01] <ParkerR> Wait are you in sh launched from the broken bash?
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[7:01] <ParkerR> :P
[7:01] <pierut> i was
[7:01] <pierut> <_<
[7:01] <pierut> >_>
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[7:01] <pierut> i logged out and back in and it just goes back to the login thing
[7:01] <ParkerR> D:
[7:01] <ParkerR> Means bash really isnt working
[7:01] <pierut> ;z
[7:02] <ParkerR> pierut, I hope you weren't very far in this insta;; :?
[7:02] <ParkerR> *install
[7:02] <pierut> not really, no
[7:02] <ParkerR> *:/
[7:02] <pierut> except i had retropie compiled
[7:02] <ParkerR> Yay so not all is lost
[7:02] <pierut> but meh
[7:02] <pierut> yea
[7:02] <ParkerR> pierut, The premade RetroPie image is quite nice
[7:03] <ParkerR> I'm using it as a secodary to my other Raspbian card
[7:03] <pierut> o
[7:03] <pierut> i didnt know there was an image
[7:03] <ParkerR> Still has full Raspbian on it just set up nicely for emulators
[7:04] <pierut> neat
[7:04] <ParkerR> http://blog.petrockblock.com/2013/02/10/retropie-project-image-download/#more-1049
[7:05] <ParkerR> Ive been using it more and more because emulators already set up and the default lxde environment is a slight bit smoother than my main netinstal from forever ago
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[7:07] <ParkerR> *netinstall
[7:07] <pierut> i think its about bed time for me ;)
[7:07] <ParkerR> Night.
[7:08] <ParkerR> Me too.
[7:08] <pierut> \o
[7:08] <ParkerR> o/
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[7:09] <Torikun> oi
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[7:17] <TeeCee> Hi
[7:18] <Torikun> suo
[7:18] <Torikun> *sup
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[7:28] <ivotkl> Night, I'm going guys as well.
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[7:30] <TeeCee> Anyone knows if this is a common error on RPi SD-card? "initial error at 1358634952: ext4_mb_free_metadata:4479: block 130504"
[7:30] <TeeCee> Couldn't find much on Mr. Google...
[7:31] <Torikun> I lost two sd cards today
[7:31] <Torikun> I think the hardware is killing it
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[8:08] <illwill> how can i check to see what tty port a usb device is on?
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[8:19] <Triffid_Hunter> illwill: you're assuming the usb device is a usb-serial converter? can use udev to print out pages of info about a specific /dev node
[8:19] <illwill> its a usb hid device
[8:20] <Triffid_Hunter> illwill: well hid != serial so there won't be any tty. instead you'll get some event and/or input nodes in /dev/input
[8:21] <illwill> im trying out different rfid devices, this one in particualr works if youre in a gui and scan a card, it prints the ID to notepad or wahtever yo uhave open
[8:21] <Triffid_Hunter> illwill: ps; udevadm info --attribute-walk --name /dev/some_node
[8:21] <illwill> not sure how to capture it from cmdline
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[8:21] <Triffid_Hunter> although my pi just crashed when I ran that on event0, apparently few things are still a bit buggy
[8:22] <Triffid_Hunter> illwill: it may show up as a keyboard, in which case it'll just type stuff direct to the terminal
[8:23] <illwill> if im ssh'd in how would i capture it
[8:23] <Triffid_Hunter> illwill: only way then is via /dev/input
[8:24] <illwill> cat /dev/input/by-id/usb-13ba_Barcode_Reader-event-kbd
[8:24] <illwill> i can see input but its all garbled
[8:24] <Triffid_Hunter> illwill: not sure of protocol, may be documented in linux-kernel-source/Documentation/input/
[8:25] <illwill> http://www.batag.com/download/rfidreader/LF/RAD-A200-U00-125kHz.8H10D.EM.v1.6.pdf is all i can find on it, its a cheap ebay rfid reader
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[8:27] <Triffid_Hunter> illwill: for standard hid, the data coming from /dev/input will be in a format controlled by the linux kernel, not the device itself
[8:27] <Triffid_Hunter> illwill: the device needs to say vendor specific instead of "I'm a keyboard" if it wants its own protocol
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[8:28] <illwill> ill probably wait until the usb board comes in for my ID-20 rfid
[8:28] <illwill> i was just trying this one in the meantime
[8:28] <illwill> i tried getting the ID-20 to work wih the uart pins
[8:28] <illwill> but no luck
[8:29] <illwill> i gave up and bought the usb board hoping the ftdi chip with make it easier
[8:30] <illwill> will*
[8:30] <Triffid_Hunter> ftdi chips are awesome, I got the dfrobot board with jumper for 5v/3.3v
[8:30] <illwill> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=278612
[8:31] <illwill> i got the rfid working with arduino a few years ago, was hoping to make a better project with raspberry since i can use internet and other stuff to work with it
[8:32] <Triffid_Hunter> illwill: sounds like you need to set baud rate
[8:32] <Triffid_Hunter> illwill: stty raw ignbrk -echo 9600 < /dev/ttyAMA0 or similar, then try cat /dev/ttyAMA0
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[8:33] <illwill> how do i check the baud that it is currently
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[9:11] <ParkerR> :D Love the python scripting interface in Minecraft Pi http://dl.dropbox.com/u/71679/clock.jpg
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[9:15] <steve_rox> :-)
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[10:21] <Thomas^2_> Hi, wondering if I could trouble you with a powered hub question
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[10:25] <Thomas^2_> I have a belkin ultra slim desktop 7 port hub and it is not reliable with any usb device except maybe a mouse, it has the 05e3:0608 id and says it is a genesys logic hub, is there any hope of getting this working or should I return it?
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[10:41] <Thomas^2_> do any of the belkin ultra slim hubs work?
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[10:51] <Thomas^2_> Does anyone know if any of the Belkin 7 port slim usb hubs will work with a raspberry pi
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[11:09] <Xark> Thomas^2_: Yes, I am using one, works great (and has a very ample power supply).
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[11:10] <Thomas^2_> thats good to hear, I have on, but it is working terribly
[11:10] <Thomas^2_> one*
[11:10] <Xark> Thomas^2_: I did not have good luck powering the RPi from it. It worked, but issues when plugging and unplugging devices.
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[11:11] <mongrol> ola
[11:11] <Thomas^2_> I am trying to power the raspberry pi off one of the ports, I will try using a different powersupply although that obviates the point, slightly for me
[11:12] <Xark> Thomas^2_: However, it seems to works fine for HDD and a few other random USB peripherals.
[11:12] <Xark> Thomas^2_: I heard there is a problem with a momentary short when plugging unplugging that disrupts the RPi.
[11:13] <Thomas^2_> ya all I really want is mouse and keyboard receivers, wifi bluetooth and an odd game controller shouldn't be bad for a 3 amp supply
[11:13] <Thomas^2_> that makes sense I wonder if splicing into the power directly from the supply would help
[11:13] <Thomas^2_> or a large capacitor for that split second
[11:14] <Xark> Thomas^2_: Yeah. I think there was forum post talking about the momentary short issue and solutions.
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[11:15] <Xark> Thomas^2_: There may also be an issue on the ports for >500ma RPi.
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[11:16] <Thomas^2_> oh ok cause even when I try and type with they keyboard receiver on the hub it will not take half the input and just keep entering the same key over and over
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[11:16] <Thomas^2_> it is really frustrating
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[11:19] <Thomas^2_> I am gonna try powering the pi off a different supply, be right back
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[11:25] <hyppias> would it be possible to run WinXP and Word/Outlook/Firefox on a Pi-B?
[11:25] <hyppias> I mean: no "heavy lifting", just regular office stuff
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[11:26] <mgottschlag> certainly not, at least not if you want it to be usable
[11:26] <mgottschlag> your best bet is a vnc connection to a windows system
[11:26] <hyppias> ok
[11:26] <woshty> rdp clients not wotking on pi?
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[11:35] <SStrife> rdesktop works fine on Pi
[11:35] <SStrife> in face, rdesktop works fine, inside a VNC connection TO a Pi :P
[11:35] <SStrife> fact*
[11:35] <mjr> yeah I think he was just using VNC as shorthand for "whatever remote desktop"
[11:36] <mjr> but indeed as any windows running would entail heavy emulation, and the pi isn't fast to begin with, not really, no
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[11:42] <Meggavik> Hi everyone! I??m working on a project combining an accelerometer with RPI but I need some advice in making it work. I??ve been following tutorials for the MMA7455 (on MagPi#4 and a2zuk.net) and tutorials for making the ADXL345 to work, but it??s really not working any of the solutions. Anyone with the knowledge to help me out in this?
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[11:45] <Thomas^2> hmm I tried that and it didn't help, my bluetooth still won't work :-/
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[12:46] <leonixyz> hi everyone,... is someone running Gentoo on your Raspberry Pi?
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[12:50] <dhbiker> hi there... can someone tell me why my mouse lags so much on RPi ? i was looking at others on youtube and they don't seem to have this problem o.O
[12:50] <Number5> Hello guys, I'm able to get webcam work with guvcview but I can't capture image with fswebcam or streamer, any hint or idea??
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[12:52] <Number5> I have a Logitech sphere camera, which seems to be loaded by the RPi, I can check it with lsusb and lsmod, everything looks good. But somehow streamer and fswebcam failed to take a picture, it results with a timeout, I also use a powered hub.
[12:53] <Number5> While guvcview works well.
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[12:57] <Paraxial> I was chuffed to find my raspberry pi could be powered by the USB port on the back of my router the other day, now it's hard wired in and has been running nicely ever since. FTW
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[13:03] <Meggavik> Back again, got disconnected. Anyone that can help me out with RPI and accelerometer working together?
[13:06] <gordonDrogon> Meggavik, how are they connected?
[13:06] <gordonDrogon> ah, I2C.
[13:07] <Meggavik> yes, thru I2c
[13:07] <Meggavik> via the GPIO
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[13:07] <Meggavik> I have a 512 rev B RPI and used ADXL345 and MMA7455 accelerometers
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[13:09] <Meggavik> And I tried to follow the guides on magpi #4 and www.azuk2.net (seems the site is down for the moment) lfor the MMA7455
[13:10] <Meggavik> sorry, a2zuk.net it should be
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[13:12] <gordonDrogon> does i2cdetect see them?
[13:12] <Meggavik> With the ADXL345 I followed the guide on : https://www.google.se/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&sqi=2&ved=0CDEQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.analog.com%2F_export%2Fpdf%2Fresources%2Ftools-software%2Flinux-drivers%2Finput-misc%2Fadxl345&ei=e9QcUfKVEYKUtQaVooCIDA&usg=AFQjCNGAtSoQ-_LJN2wEOekDJQ4nz1g3HA&sig2=XO2pU69wv0863F9LRu6HXg&bvm=bv.42452523,d.Yms
[13:12] <Meggavik> on page 24
[13:13] <Meggavik> If I put 3,3V on the CS it shows on i2cdetect -y 1 as "53"
[13:13] <Meggavik> otherwise I can??t see anything at all
[13:13] <Weaselweb> leonixyz: don't ask meta question. just ask what you want to know. nevertheless I'm running gentoo on my rpi
[13:14] <Meggavik> on the CS-pin on ADXL345 that is
[13:14] <gordonDrogon> that guide is all about making a linux kernel driver - if that's your aim then go for it, but if you just want to read it without that, then it should be OK.
[13:15] <Meggavik> gordonDrogon: So I don??t hacve to make a kernel in order to read and display data from the ADXL345
[13:15] <Meggavik> ?
[13:15] <gordonDrogon> there isn' a CS pin.
[13:16] <gordonDrogon> no - you don't need a kernel device driver, any I2C device can just be read from a probram directly.
[13:16] <Meggavik> gordonDrogon: there is a CS-pin on the ADXL345 chip.
[13:16] <Meggavik> if I don??t put 3,3V on that one it doesn??t show when using i2cdetect.
[13:17] <gordonDrogon> oh, right. it's at the bottom.
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> ok. yes, it's combined SPI/I2C and I2C mode is enabled by tying CS to 3.3v.
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> page 15 of the data sheet.
[13:19] <Meggavik> I have 3,3v on VCC and I connected the SDO & SDA to GPIO no 3 & 5 pin.
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> ok
[13:20] <Meggavik> and Int1 to pin 11
[13:20] <gordonDrogon> and you see it with i2cdetect, so that's great.
[13:20] <Meggavik> :)
[13:20] <gordonDrogon> I'd not wory too much about the int pin for now.
[13:20] <gordonDrogon> So go & write some code...
[13:20] <Meggavik> I wish I was that educated
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[13:22] <gordonDrogon> you'll need to start at some point...
[13:22] <gordonDrogon> also, it's showing as 0x53 because it's in "alternative address mode" although this isn't too critical here.
[13:23] <Meggavik> I copy pasted the python code from magpi#4, it returns the error code no5 : Line 40, in module Aval=MMA7455.getValue() and line29:, in getValue, self.b.write_byte_data(0x1d,0x16,0x45).
[13:24] <Thomas^2> exit
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[13:26] <Meggavik> If I use the code from a2zuk it throws: line48, in <module>, MMA7455.setUp() and line29 in setUp: self.b.write_byte_data(0x1D,0x16,0x55)
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[13:26] <Meggavik> also Errno5
[13:26] <Meggavik> Input/output Error
[13:27] <gordonDrogon> I don't do python.
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[13:29] <TeeCee> SssssSSSsssSSSS <<-- Python
[13:29] <gordonDrogon> more like Squeeeeeeeeeeeeeezeeeeeeee <<- Python
[13:30] <Meggavik> gordonDrogon: :) too bad.
[13:31] <gordonDrogon> I do C and BASIC (and many others), but not Python.
[13:31] <Meggavik> That might be my next step to try, installing allegro and try that out on the rpi.
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[13:33] <jelly1> python ftw
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[13:35] <Meggavik> Thanks anyway for taking your time gordonDrogon!
[13:36] <gordonDrogon> you've got the connectivity sorted though.
[13:36] <gordonDrogon> as long as i2sdetect is seeing it, you're half way there.
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[13:37] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: I managed to write code that makes raspbian kernel panic :D
[13:37] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, excellent :)
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[13:38] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: http://shiranui.lt3m.com/picrash/
[13:38] <Grievre> ./kracksplit ./krackoutput /dev/i2c-0 /dev/i2c-1 < ./kracktest.out
[13:38] <Grievre> (with i2c-dev loaded, obviously, and baud rate set to 400 kbps)
[13:39] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, well I don't know what that's supposed to be doing, but I have noticed some crashes myself with the I2C driver.
[13:40] <gordonDrogon> the truth is that it probably never really expected to be used like this from userland, so with a well behaved kernel driver or utility you're relatively safe.
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[13:41] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: er, what?
[13:41] <Meggavik> See you later guys!
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[13:41] <gordonDrogon> we're doing stuff on the Pi that a lot of people never really expected to be done on a Linux system.
[13:41] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: that code isn't just a test case, it's what I'm actually trying to do :P
[13:42] <gordonDrogon> peripherals like SPI & I2C were probably expected to be handled by the kernel.
[13:42] <gordonDrogon> so it does not surprise me when you crash a Pi.
[13:43] <Grievre> is there a standard way to write linux drivers for things like very small resolution LCD displays?
[13:43] <Grievre> i.e. almost, but not quite video outputs
[13:43] <gordonDrogon> not really. (at least not that I'm aware)
[13:44] <gordonDrogon> whats the display you'e writing to?
[13:44] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kiJQ8YF3ydc
[13:45] <gordonDrogon> neat. and it's all I2C ?
[13:45] <gordonDrogon> arduino on-top :)
[13:46] <Grievre> yeah
[13:46] <Grievre> I'm trying to get the Pi to drive it now
[13:46] <Number5> I have a Logitech sphere camera, which seems to be loaded by the RPi, I can check it with lsusb and lsmod, everything looks good. But somehow streamer and fswebcam failed to take a picture, it results with a timeout, I also use a powered hub.
[13:46] <Grievre> I've got it rewired so the left and right halves are separate i2C buses
[13:46] <Grievre> so I can get double framerate
[13:46] <Number5> While guvcview works well.
[13:46] <Grievre> (the i2c bandwidth is the limiting factor)
[13:47] <Number5> I need a way to capture images from commandline so I can write some scripts
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[13:48] <Number5> i2c was meant to control other devices and read small pieces of data and not for serious high speed data transfer.
[13:48] <Grievre> Number5: yep
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, I guess each square has some controller chip behind it?
[13:49] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: atmega328
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, ok - so over kill :)
[13:49] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: Actually for manually PWMing 64 RGBs... it's not so much overkill
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[13:49] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, ok was just about to ask if they're PWMd.
[13:50] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: the LED driver chips are either on and off, so at 40 FPS, 16 brightness levels, you need to clock 24 bits into the shift register 640 times a second
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[13:50] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: oh wait, also once per row
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, so it's 6x3 x 8x8xRGB.
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[13:50] <Grievre> so 5000 seconds
[13:50] <Grievre> yeah
[13:50] <Grievre> 4 bits per color
[13:51] <gordonDrogon> I'm pondering a few things over - personally I'd not use I2C however you may be stuck with it.
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[13:51] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: Of course I wouldn't be using I2C if I had a choice
[13:51] <gordonDrogon> so you've inherited this?
[13:51] <tosmo> hi. i just got an assembled gertboard from farnell. it seems as the digital to analog converter (mcp48xx) is missing. and no empty solderpads to add it
[13:51] <Grievre> yes
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[13:52] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, is re-programming the ATmegas an option?
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[13:52] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: already done it
[13:53] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: why do you ask?
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[13:53] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, I'd use SPI.
[13:53] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: the SS pins are being used for something else
[13:53] <Grievre> I'd have to cut traces and solder in bodge wires on all of the 18 boards
[13:53] <gordonDrogon> that's a bother then.
[13:53] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: But I wouldn't use SPI, I'd use the UART
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[13:53] <Grievre> in 9 bit addressing mode
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[13:54] <gordonDrogon> however the 2 I2C pins can be used as ordinary inputs.
[13:54] <Grievre> you think that's /faster/ than just using I2C?
[13:54] <gordonDrogon> 2MHz vs. 100KHz ? Yes, Faster.
[13:54] <Grievre> okay but it will consume /way/ more CPU cycles
[13:54] <gordonDrogon> sure.
[13:55] <Grievre> also I'm running i2c at 400 kHz
[13:55] <gordonDrogon> no magic solution then.
[13:55] <Grievre> like I said I'd rather use the UART in 9 bit addressing mode. Unfortunately the pi doesn't support that
[13:55] <gordonDrogon> I'm guessing the ATmegas are using a software PWM to handle all the LEDs?
[13:56] <Grievre> I already described it to you :P
[13:56] <Grievre> [04:50:08] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: the LED driver chips are either on and off, so at 40 FPS, 16 brightness levels, you need to clock 24 bits into the shift register 640 times a second
[13:56] <Grievre> (* 8 for the 8 rows)
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> right, so it's pulsed via software.
[13:56] <Grievre> yep
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[13:57] <kvarley> Has anybody tried Minecraft Pi Edition over the internet with port forwarding?
[13:57] <gordonDrogon> 8x8x3 = 6 x 8-bit shoft registers.
[13:57] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: we have 3 8-bit shift registers plus a parallel driver for the rows
[13:58] <Grievre> how do you get 6 x 8-bit out of that
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> ok
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> 2 SR's for an 8x8 matrix.
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> multiply by 3 for R, G and B.
[13:59] <Grievre> Um yeah it doesn't work that way
[13:59] <Grievre> I dunno what RGB LEDs you've used, but they have a common positive lead
[13:59] <Grievre> and then separate negative leads for the red green and blue
[13:59] <gordonDrogon> Ah, of-course. I'm thinking individual LEDs. (only becaus that's what I have on my desk right now - doh!)
[13:59] <Grievre> so it's more like an 8 x 24
[13:59] <gordonDrogon> yea.
[14:01] <gordonDrogon> Looks like a fun project though - or are you trying to develop this into a product?
[14:01] <Grievre> hah
[14:02] <Grievre> (at both of those)
[14:02] <Grievre> I think I'd have a lot of trouble selling this to investors given how much better competition there is out there
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[14:04] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: most commercial versions of this have a dedicated PWM chip for each LED
[14:04] <Grievre> which is really the Right Thing to do
[14:04] <gordonDrogon> yea, there's some really nice SPI ones too.
[14:05] <Grievre> a friend of mine sells a version of this that can do 20,000 LEDs at 300 frames per second, 24 bit color
[14:05] <gordonDrogon> but it puts the cost per LED up considerably.
[14:06] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: I actually had a neat idea for an RGB LED with on-die digital brightness control
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[14:07] <gordonDrogon> that would be the way.
[14:08] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: basically, the single-color version of it would be: You have a square, the square is made up of 8 individual elements where like
[14:08] <Grievre> half of the square is taken up by one, then half of the remaining rectangle is taken up by another (which is half the area) etc
[14:08] <Grievre> and then each of those elements is just driven by one of the bits in the shift register
[14:08] <gordonDrogon> using something like the WS2801
[14:08] <Grievre> but I'm not sure that brightness is proportional to area where an LED is concerned
[14:09] <Number5> Hi guys, how come I can capture images from webcam using guvcview and not with commandline tools like streamer and fswebcam?
[14:09] <Number5> Can anyone please help me
[14:10] <pksato> Number5: pressing capture botton?
[14:10] <gordonDrogon> Number5, I've no idea. the only thing I've used via GUI is cheese
[14:10] <pronto> streamer -c /dev/video0 -o out.jpeg -s 1280x720 -j 100 << works for me
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[14:10] <pronto> you dont need the -s or -j though
[14:11] <Number5> gordonDrogon, it's really weird, webcam is working with guvcview, except with commanline tools
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[14:11] <pronto> Number5: any error messages?
[14:12] <pksato> Number5: use uvccapture
[14:12] <Number5> time-out
[14:12] <Number5> is uvccapture also commandline?
[14:12] <pksato> yes.
[14:12] <Number5> ok thnx pksato I'll try out
[14:13] <pronto> http://raspberry.bagels.xxx/curr.html << :D output of my webcam via streamer
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[14:13] <mjr> It's not xxx, son I am disappoint
[14:13] <pronto> :(
[14:14] <mjr> of course you'd get kicked for that pronto
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[14:14] <pronto> :p
[14:14] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, ebay item: 170989067157 - about the cheapest individual LEDs I've seen...
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[14:14] <pronto> everything on *bagels.xxx* is SFW (except the tld it self)
[14:14] <Grievre> I don't know how to look up auctions by item
[14:14] <pronto> but all content=sfw
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[14:15] <Number5> pronto, cool!
[14:15] <Number5> hahahaha
[14:15] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, although this works out at ?1.21 per pixel: http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/rgb-led-strip-32-ledm-addressable-1m-p-903.html
[14:15] <pronto> http://raspberry.bagels.xxx/cam/aa.html also< this page
[14:15] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, oh just put he item nunmber in the search box.
[14:15] <pronto> the black images with red boarder show diffs between current shot, and the last one
[14:15] <pronto> so moving stuff is glowy :D
[14:16] <pronto> http://imgur.com/a/xtDPe#12 (kinda like that)
[14:16] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, I was going to buy some of those strips off SKpang for the town xmas tree this year, but didn't get round to it and they'd probably get stolen anyway.
[14:16] <double-you> pronto: wow, in this garden you can drink a lot of beer
[14:16] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: my friend jas/heroic sells driver boxes that will drive 8 of those
[14:16] <Grievre> for under $200
[14:17] <mjr> funky
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, 8 RGB LEDs for $200 - expensive.
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, or 8 strips?
[14:17] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: lol 8 LEDs?
[14:17] <Grievre> have you been drinking?
[14:17] <Grievre> of course 8 strips
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> ok
[14:18] <Grievre> 8 strips of up to 240 leds each
[14:18] <Grievre> so max 1920
[14:18] <Grievre> http://www.heroicrobotics.com/products/pixelpusher
[14:19] <pronto> double-you: what?
[14:19] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, a Pi will do that trivially.
[14:20] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, I have a Pi driving about 38K pixels via SPI ...
[14:20] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, 30fps ...
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[14:21] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: how many bits per pixel?
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[14:21] <gordonDrogon> 16
[14:21] <gordonDrogon> it's 5:6:5 RGB.
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[14:22] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: wait 38k pixels via SPI at 30 frames per second really?
[14:22] <gordonDrogon> all done via SPI.
[14:22] <gordonDrogon> maybe only 28fps, but that's almost 30.
[14:22] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: oh this thing does arbitrary protocols though, it can drive a wide variety of LED strips including ones that are different enough to SPI that the SPI peripheral can't do it
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[14:24] <Grievre> gordonDrogon: she charges so much for it because she wrote a custom RTOS for it that she's rather proud of *shrug*
[14:24] <gordonDrogon> Grievre, yea, there are some weird ones I've seen. Really bonkers onbiously invented by some ultra cheap chinese factory somewhere that shaved a 100th of a cent of the production price.
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[14:26] <gordonDrogon> spot of lunch time now I think.
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[14:35] <DeliriumTremens> i will now as you all to cross your fingers
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[14:39] <DeliriumTremens> hardaksdghla
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[14:40] <gordonDrogon> yea, hard to type with crossed fingers ...
[14:40] <FR^2> DeliriumTremens: Before typing you should make sure that your fingers are no longer crossed ;)
[14:40] <DeliriumTremens> it crashed :(
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[14:41] <gordonDrogon> what were you trying to do?
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[14:42] <DeliriumTremens> qemu
[14:43] <DeliriumTremens> starts up, runs great, then while i'm not touching it the whole thing freezes
[14:44] <DeliriumTremens> and there's no...easy?...way to debug it
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[14:50] <mgottschlag> DeliriumTremens: you could try the normal debugging steps though (install debug symbols, gdb, strace, ...)
[14:50] <DeliriumTremens> im doing that as we speak
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[15:07] <DeliriumTremens> looks like i can also go in and uncomment some debug lines and recompile qemu...god that seems like a lot of work
[15:07] <DeliriumTremens> haha
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[15:10] <IT_Sean> clear
[15:10] <IT_Sean> whoops... forgot the /
[15:10] <IT_Sean> Morning all
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[15:11] <DeliriumTremens> good morning
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[15:19] <DeliriumTremens> ugh, have to rebuild qemu using debug enabler flags
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[15:20] <Moberg> Do you guys have some easy API for game making written in C++? I use SFML on x86
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[15:20] <xrosnight> Hello Guys :)
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[15:21] <xrosnight> Happy Valentine's Day everyone :D
[15:22] <jelly1> Moberg: ogre3d
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[15:28] <Moberg> jelly1: Raspberry pi is fully supported?
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[15:34] <xrosnight> anyone has the newest archlinux.iso for raspberrypi???????
[15:35] <xrosnight> quit
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[15:35] <IT_Sean> ...
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[15:38] <locusf> some people have 0 patience
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[15:38] <jelly1> Moberg: no clue
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[15:38] <jelly1> ugh xrosnight so silly
[15:40] <Dyskette> They were seemingly running weechat as root, too...
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[15:43] <IT_Sean> Dyskette: how can you tell?
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[15:50] <mark_vh> hey guys, for your info: https://www.facebook.com/thepizone
[15:51] <mark_vh> this is the unofficial rpi facebook page thinking of setting up a raspberrypi irc channel (see post of 6 hours ago)
[15:51] <mark_vh> you might want to get your 2 cents in to prevent splintering the community across multiple channels
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[15:54] <pronto> http://raspberry.bagels.xxx/templog.php << added max/min/mean lines to the temp log :D (gnu plot is fun!)
[15:54] <IT_Sean> Dyskette: ahhh! I missed that. :p
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[15:59] <mark_vh> apologies for those who considered my message spam, just trying to look out for the raspberry pi community
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[16:00] <gordonDrogon> your page has nothing new on it.
[16:01] <gordonDrogon> and ther already is a raspberrypi IRC channel - this one.
[16:01] <pronto> o.O
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[16:02] <DeliriumTremens> i dont think that's /his/ page
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[16:04] <mark_vh> not my page indeed, just the page of the largest rpi community on facebook
[16:04] <egrouse> and his point was that we should go on there and tell them exactly that gordonDrogon ;)
[16:05] <mark_vh> so gordonDrogon: exactly my point, there is already this IRC channel :)
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[16:07] <gordonDrogon> well perhaps it could have been better put across.
[16:07] <gordonDrogon> because the way it was, it just looked like spam.
[16:07] <ReggieUK> indeed
[16:08] <IT_Sean> mark_vh: I apologize. It did look like spam, which is why you got the boot. We do appreciate your concern, however, and thank you for acting in the best interests of the community.
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[16:11] <IT_Sean> That said... this is the one channel that, although 'unofficial' is blessed by The Foundation. Additionally, it is the only one officially listed on the raspberrypi.org website. As well, there are over 500 people in here today, and that number has been steadily increasing. Even if a third of the IRC using raspi community left for other channels, for whatever reason, we would still be Quite Active.
[16:11] <ReggieUK> tbh we're bigger than the arduino channel
[16:12] <IT_Sean> indeed.
[16:12] <ReggieUK> and I would say that's got a massive following on twitter
[16:12] <ReggieUK> across the planet
[16:12] <Viper-7> mostly because the arduino channels are fragmented, but hey
[16:12] <ReggieUK> a much bigger community
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[16:17] <mark_vh> IT_Sean: no need to apologize, just doing your job of keeping this channel spam-free.'ll try to look less spammy y next time :)
[16:17] <IT_Sean> thanks. :)
[16:18] <DeliriumTremens> Fragmentation on IRC is just a fact of life. Chalk it up to the game.
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[16:28] <DeliriumTremens> jeeeez, found a guy who has done a TON of work with qemu on the pi
[16:28] <DeliriumTremens> so much to read..
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[16:28] <ReggieUK> link?
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[16:34] <DeliriumTremens> ReggieUK: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=141946
[16:34] <DeliriumTremens> Dietmar is what he goes by
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[16:39] <tb01110100> In Arch Linux, changing the clock speed in the config.txt does not seem to make a difference. Is there another way to oc the Pi?
[16:40] <ReggieUK> thanks
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[16:45] <jelly1> tb01110100: yes configuring /boot/config.txt ...
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[16:45] <jelly1> tb01110100: the best is too use cpupower though
[16:45] <tb01110100> How can I use cpupower to set the freq to 950mhz?
[16:45] <jelly1> tb01110100: don't be stupid
[16:45] <jelly1> just let the Mhz be set ondemand
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[16:47] <tb01110100> jelly1: So, cpupower set ondemand?
[16:47] <jelly1> tb01110100: sec but you need to actually fix /boot/config.txt first
[16:48] <tb01110100> jelly1: You mean restore to arm-freq = 700?
[16:48] <jelly1> no
[16:48] <jelly1> tb01110100: setting your file up correctly..
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[16:49] <tb01110100> Sorry, I still don't understand what you mean.
[16:49] <jelly1> 16:42:26 tb01110100 | In Arch Linux, changing the clock speed in the config.txt does not seem to make a ???+splitter
[16:49] <jelly1> | difference. Is there another way to oc the Pi? ???+Squirm
[16:49] <jelly1> you probably did it wrong then..
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[16:52] <jelly1> tb01110100: this is what i have http://dpaste.org/ZHp1F/
[16:52] <jelly1> http://dpaste.org/dzIyO/
[16:52] <jelly1> tb01110100: ^
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[16:56] <tb01110100> cpupower says that the current freq is 700 mhz, even though you have it set to a Ghz... Same here. I guess... I don't know... :?
[16:56] <jelly1> tb01110100: so start abusing your cpu
[16:56] <jelly1> and watch the MHz go up?!
[16:56] <tb01110100> jelly1: I'll try... :)
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[16:58] <tb01110100> jelly1: You do any awesome stuff w/ your Pi?
[16:58] <jelly1> atm working on a webcam intruder alarm
[16:58] <tb01110100> Cool!
[16:59] <tb01110100> ...
[16:59] <tb01110100> Uh oh...
[16:59] <jelly1> cool when it works :P
[16:59] <IT_Sean> doing motion analasys?
[16:59] <jelly1> i am just beginning
[16:59] <tb01110100> When I OC to 1Ghz, the Pi freezes on boot with "Started udev Kernel Device Manager." You on ArchArm or Raspbian?
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[16:59] <jelly1> ArchArm
[17:00] <tb01110100> hm...
[17:00] <jelly1> cause systemd <3
[17:00] <tb01110100> Systemd causes the OC to 1Ghz not to work?
[17:00] <tb01110100> Oh wait...
[17:00] <jelly1> no
[17:00] <tb01110100> unrelated.
[17:00] <tb01110100> NM.
[17:00] <jelly1> yes
[17:01] <tb01110100> Any idea why it would freeze on boot with 1Ghz?
[17:01] <jelly1> nope
[17:01] <tb01110100> I'll keep it at 950Mhz then.
[17:01] <tb01110100> Close enough.
[17:01] <jelly1> IT_Sean: work in progress atm
[17:02] <isasha> yo anyone know if it is possible to reset the raspi ssh password?
[17:02] <isasha> like through the SD card ?
[17:02] <jelly1> not via the sd card
[17:02] <jelly1> you really lost it?
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[17:03] <jelly1> i have to go, try to login as root
[17:03] <mythos> isasha, mount the sd, chroot into it and execute passwd <username>
[17:03] <jelly1> if you have linux :P
[17:03] <mythos> everbody has linux
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[17:04] <isasha> nah I have os x :P
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[17:05] <isasha> but I dunno what happeed
[17:05] <isasha> this guy at my local hs was fixing the Apache server that I installed via a script
[17:05] <isasha> and after this I can't ssh into it with any passwords that I know
[17:06] <DeliriumTremens> hah, sounds like he locked you out
[17:06] <isasha> he's not that sorta guy
[17:06] <IT_Sean> you sure about that?
[17:06] <isasha> yup
[17:07] <isasha> afaik it's more of an issue with me unplugging all of the cables without properly powering off
[17:07] <isasha> do that all the time, but still :P
[17:07] * IT_Sean facepalms
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[17:07] <isasha> :)
[17:07] <IT_Sean> Always ALWAYS do a proper halt before unplugging the pi.
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[17:07] <isasha> yeah well I never do :P
[17:07] <isasha> probably the reason why I had to reinstall raspbian 3 times
[17:08] <IT_Sean> and that wasn't a clue??
[17:08] <isasha> i blamed it on the sd card :P
[17:09] <IT_Sean> well... you are partly correct. You shag'd up the SD card by unplugging it while it was being accessed / written.
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[17:09] <tb01110100> I wish that not almost all the rpi tutorials were written for Raspbian.
[17:09] <tb01110100> We Arch users need a little more love,
[17:09] <isasha> IT_Sean: well, at least I'm up to date xD
[17:09] <pksato> Arch users need need to write tutorials. :)
[17:10] <nid0> the expectation is people choosing to use arch should generally know what theyre doing :)
[17:11] <DeliriumTremens> When i first started working on this qemu stuff, the first thread i saw was a guy who had a portion of what i want to do working, and someone asked him for some help and his response was along the lines of "I dont believe in telling people how to do something, you should learn from the process" and left it at that
[17:11] <IT_Sean> ^ wot 'e said
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[17:11] <nid0> besides which, a lot of tutorials for raspbian are perfectly good for arch, just substitute apt-get for pacman and change a few paths
[17:11] <isasha> So anyways, the password issue?
[17:11] <nid0> change it on another linux system
[17:11] <isasha> ok
[17:11] <isasha> what do I do?
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[17:13] <pksato> isasha: you have phisical access to rpi?
[17:14] <isasha> yes
[17:14] <pksato> power off, remove sd caRD, put on some card reader. mount, open cmdline.txt and apppend single on end of line.
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[17:15] <isasha> where do I append it?
[17:15] <isasha> I get this:
[17:15] <isasha> dwc_otg.lpm_enable=0 console=ttyAMA0,115200 kgdboc=ttyAMA0,115200 console=tty1 root=/dev/mmcblk0p2 rootfstype=ext4 elevator=deadline rootwait
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[17:17] <isasha> ?
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[17:20] <isasha> ping pksato
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[17:29] <diamonds> is it possible to install raspbian w/o a monitor?
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[17:30] <diamonds> long shot I know... I just don't have the right sort of monitor cable on hand
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[17:30] <isasha> You can connect to it over SSH
[17:31] <diamonds> isasha: yes, I'm wondering if I can connect via ssh in order to do initial raspbian setup
[17:31] <ParkerR> diamonds, Do you not have an old composite cable laying around anywhere?
[17:31] <nid0> just use the sd image rather than the installer?
[17:31] <ParkerR> That too
[17:32] <diamonds> nid0: hmm... I'm using the first .img file from here http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
[17:33] <diamonds> it's dd'd to the ssd already; I thought there was more setup once I connected it to the pi
[17:33] <nid0> well there's no "install" or "setup" to do then, you copy that to an sd card and its setup and good to go
[17:33] <isasha> not 100% sure, but can't you wait a few minutes after booting it up for the first time, and then do a network discovery to find the raspi's IP?
[17:33] <diamonds> oh yay!
[17:33] <ParkerR> diamonds, Oh then there isnt much setup. You can flash the image, boot the Pi, and connect via SSH and run sudo raspi-config
[17:33] <nid0> there's a few post install config options in raspi-config (which you can access via ssh) but its stuff like disabling desktop, setting overclocking, etc
[17:34] <isasha> The desktop is disabled whenever you boot without a monitor attached
[17:34] <diamonds> isasha: oh wow that's nice
[17:34] <diamonds> yeah I don't plan on using a monitor with this thing, unless I want to run minecraft on it :)
[17:35] <isasha> Yeah it's great if you want to cut down on resources
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[17:36] <eephillip> anyone know of a good tech posting about the best sd cards for performance on arm / pi targets
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[17:37] <nid0> generally any class 6
[17:37] <isasha> eephillip: the raspi maxes out at 20mb/s
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[17:37] <pronto> https://pronto185.com/blog/2013/02/14/raspberry-pi-gnuplot-temperature/ < post on how i do: http://raspberry.bagels.xxx/templog.php
[17:37] <isasha> so there is no point in getting anything super expensive
[17:37] <nid0> the pi itself is limited to about 20MB/s so class 10's are generally pontless
[17:37] <isasha> nid0: yeah that's what I said
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[17:39] <eephillip> I had found raw test data from linaro https://bit.ly/Zd8ndy
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[17:48] <diamonds> is there a network indicator light on the pi?
[17:48] <Torikun> yes
[17:48] <diamonds> I see LNK
[17:48] <FR^2> sure, the green one ;)
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[17:49] <Torikun> when my lan is working many gree nlights are on
[17:49] <Torikun> otherwise jsut red light with no lan
[17:49] <diamonds> I get power and nothing else
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[17:49] <FR^2> diamonds: Everything else is okay? The SDCard works?
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[17:50] <pierut> :>
[17:50] <diamonds> FR^2: I don't know :)
[17:50] <diamonds> FR^2: I'm trying to connect to find out :p
[17:50] <diamonds> the img dd'd over alright
[17:50] <nid0> if you just have the solid red light, that means you either have improper power or an improperly written sd card, generally
[17:51] <diamonds> ah ok
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[17:51] <nid0> you did dd the image to the card itself not a partition on it right
[17:51] <diamonds> yes
[17:52] <diamonds> dd -b4m -if=weezypi.img -of=/dev/usbport
[17:52] <diamonds> something like that
[17:52] <diamonds> OK so I need to verify this image
[17:53] <isasha> verify the network connection first
[17:53] <isasha> maybe the cable isn't plugged in properly
[17:53] <diamonds> I'll do the "copy it back from the SD and compare hashes" thing
[17:53] <diamonds> isasha: ? I'm getting solid red light on power up, it sounds like the OS isn't loading properly
[17:53] <pierut> dd bs=4M if=image.img of=/dev/sd
[17:53] <isasha> ah ok
[17:53] <isasha> is the CPU activity light blinking?
[17:53] <diamonds> pierut: yeah there we go
[17:54] <diamonds> isasha: no
[17:54] <double-you> cpu activity light?
[17:54] <pierut> :>
[17:54] <diamonds> which light is that?
[17:54] <isasha> the one above power?
[17:54] <isasha> or maybe it's SD activity
[17:54] <diamonds> ACT?
[17:54] <IT_Sean> ... that's SD activity, not CPU
[17:54] <double-you> it's sd activity
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[17:54] <isasha> yeah, that's what I said :P
[17:54] <diamonds> ok, well none are blinking
[17:54] <IT_Sean> There is no CPU activity LED.
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[17:54] <isasha> yes, I know
[17:54] <diamonds> I'll verify the SD image as next step when I get the chance
[17:54] <Hodapp> No blinkenlights?!
[17:54] <Hodapp> someone should make those!
[17:54] <pierut> they're all for the network except the power led
[17:54] <Hodapp> like on the BeBox!
[17:55] <pierut> BeOS ftw
[17:55] <pierut> first thing i ever downloaded on a broadband internet connection ;D
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[18:01] <xrosnight> exit
[18:01] <IT_Sean> ...?
[18:01] <pronto> exit!
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[18:01] <IT_Sean> exit?
[18:01] <pronto> /exit
[18:01] <pierut> exit.
[18:02] <double-you> seems to be quite full -> KiB Mem: 481508 total, 469272 used, 12236 free, 296044 buffers
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[18:04] <pierut> no more cpu time
[18:04] <beers> kill -9 ?
[18:04] <pierut> :>
[18:04] <pierut> my flow is like reentrant and preemptive multitasking!
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[18:07] <double-you> oh, top mem usage isnt actually the real memory usage?
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[18:07] <beers> check out the buffers line
[18:08] <double-you> -/+ buffers/cache: 33 437
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[18:08] <gordonDrogon> Good numbers there.
[18:09] <double-you> looks good, yes
[18:09] <gordonDrogon> the more cached the better.
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[18:10] <Torikun> is there a way to cache writes to RAM versuse writign to SD
[18:10] <Torikun> and just dump periodocally
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[18:11] <Torikun> unionfs comes to mind
[18:11] <ParkerR> Torikun, I think eatmydata does that
[18:11] <Torikun> ah
[18:11] <ParkerR> eatmydata somecommand
[18:12] <ParkerR> That at the end f somebody is sybcs everything
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[18:12] <ParkerR> *Then at the
[18:12] <Torikun> ty will look at it
[18:12] <ParkerR> Gaah
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[18:13] <pierut> good afternoon parkerr ;)
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[18:13] <ParkerR> pierut, Hey hey
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[18:19] <Clint_> lovely
[18:20] <Clint_> :)
[18:20] <pronto> very
[18:20] <Scriven> Inadvertently tested the crash-ability of a running pi yesterday. Opened my rack's door and pulled the pi off the top via the dangling keyboard cable!
[18:20] <Clint_> i just got mine yesterday
[18:20] <Clint_> it was backordered
[18:20] <Scriven> Seemed OK, no nasty log messages or obvious burps.
[18:20] <IT_Sean> Scriven: ouch
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[18:21] <Scriven> Clint_, I feel your pain, I was in the backorder line from day 1, for like 8 months b4 delivery.
[18:21] <IT_Sean> that wasn't too bright
[18:21] <Clint_> its worth the wait Scriven
[18:21] <Scriven> IT_Sean, yeah, not my smartest move. lol!
[18:21] <IT_Sean> any damage?
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[18:21] <Scriven> Clint_, YEs, it is, they're so fun! Even the 256 rev 1's I got!
[18:21] <Clint_> mine has no damage
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[18:21] <pierut> i accidentally overwrote /bin/bash yesterday night ;<
[18:21] <Clint_> i tried getting the 256
[18:21] <Clint_> also out of stock
[18:21] <Scriven> IT_Sean, nope, case protected from anything direct, and the shaking/impact didn't do any damage to case either.
[18:22] <IT_Sean> ahh... you have a case.
[18:22] <Scriven> pierut, dooh!
[18:22] <IT_Sean> I haven't got a case yet
[18:22] <Scriven> yeah, laser-cut case from Vancouver hackspace's raspberry pi gpio night.
[18:22] <Clint_> nice Scriven
[18:22] <Clint_> canuck pi :D
[18:22] <Scriven> I got the original cases when I ordered mine, the 2-piece pink ones with holes around the middle... not sure that would have helped this time tho..
[18:23] <Scriven> happy to have upgraded to this acrylic one... should take some pictures.
[18:23] <Clint_> igot the kit from adafruist
[18:23] <Clint_> love the adafruit design :)
[18:23] <IT_Sean> I think i'm just going to vesa mount mine
[18:23] <Clint_> :D Sean
[18:23] <Clint_> :)
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[18:26] <Clint_> have anyone tried to use it as a network analyzer tool ?
[18:26] <IT_Sean> either that or i'll get ambitious and homebrew a wooden case, nicely finished, that contains the Pi, the wifi bridge, and a powered USB hub, all running off the same power supply (possibly)
[18:26] * Clint_ is now known as Cymerc
[18:26] <Scriven> not yet no Clint_ it's a good idea tho. ;)
[18:26] <Scriven> IT_Sean, Am thinking of something similar, but with vacuum-forming.
[18:26] <Scriven> Maybe even wearable. ;)
[18:26] <IT_Sean> too industrial.
[18:27] <IT_Sean> it's the wood that makes it good.
[18:27] <Cymerc> Thats what i have sean
[18:27] <Cymerc> :)
[18:27] <Scriven> wood wouldn't work for the idea I have I don't think.... but there's always another pi project! :D
[18:27] <IT_Sean> I'm using mine for xbmc, so...
[18:27] <IT_Sean> a wooden case that would look good on my TV stand would be great.
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[18:30] <Scriven> Picture: http://s1051.beta.photobucket.com/user/Scurvy42/media/Computers/IMG_0474_zps097b6464.jpg.html
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[18:31] <Scriven> bbiab
[18:32] <Cymerc> whats Xmbc Sean ?
[18:32] <Cymerc> scriven
[18:32] <Cymerc> any of you have tried arduino
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[18:34] <|Jeroen|> xbmc is a media center
[18:35] <Cymerc> ty jeroen
[18:35] <|Jeroen|> its nice to
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[18:37] <Cymerc> im trying to use it for work
[18:37] <Cymerc> also
[18:37] <Cymerc> the pi
[18:37] <Cymerc> i saw the project whereby it was used as a network analyzer
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[18:38] <Clint_> ok
[18:38] <Clint_> scriven
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[18:39] <Clint_> http://s1051.beta.photobucket.com/user/Scurvy42/media/Computers/IMG_0474_zps097b6464.jpg.html
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[18:40] <pronto> Clint_: http://vancouver.hackspace.ca/wp/ ?
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[18:45] <Clint_> ty
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[18:51] <mvaneijgen> I have a 150mbits usb adapter that works but the internet connection is slow. is there a way to power up my Raspberry with more power so the wifi connection will be more stable
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[18:51] <mvaneijgen> i would be nice doing it without a additonal usb power hub
[18:52] <IT_Sean> mvaneijgen: adding "moaar powwah" isn't going to speed up your internet.
[18:52] <beers> ^
[18:52] <IT_Sean> That's not how electronics work.
[18:53] <double-you> everybody should just buy an edimax wifi dongle ;)
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[19:03] <mvaneijgen> IT_Sean: but 150mbits it a lot i think but it is slow as hell
[19:03] <double-you> how slow?
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[19:03] <mvaneijgen> i got XBMC running with airplay
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[19:04] <mvaneijgen> streaming a youtube video of a hour works fine with my UTP calble but doing it over wifi my XBMC/raspberry it will crash as soon as it starts loading
[19:06] <double-you> I also have a wifi dongle which crashes on heavy load
[19:06] <|Jeroen|> usb can't even do 150
[19:06] <double-you> but it worked in 54 mbit/s mode
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[19:08] <mvaneijgen> i like to get some more mbits in my raspberry pi but how to do that
[19:08] <|Jeroen|> don't think you can
[19:09] <mvaneijgen> that is to bad
[19:09] <mvaneijgen> so buying a better dongle isnt a option
[19:10] <IT_Sean> mvaneijgen: there is no way to "get more mbits in [your] raspberry pi"
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[19:11] <|Jeroen|> no the usb bus is the limiting factor
[19:11] <|Jeroen|> i head sombody say 40mbit was the max
[19:12] <IT_Sean> your bottleneck is always going to be the USB bus when using a USB network adapter.
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[19:15] <IT_Sean> guess he didn't get the answer he wanted.
[19:15] <pronto> :(
[19:16] <|Jeroen|> its fast enough to play full hd video, so whats the prob
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[19:17] <IT_Sean> the "problem" is he is using a USB wifi stick, and he wants "more mbits"
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[19:20] <|Jeroen|> shouldn't it be about the same speed as eth ?
[19:20] <Torikun> anyone playing minecraft on the pi? If so, how you liking it?
[19:20] <|Jeroen|> the eth chip is also usb
[19:21] <Tachyon`> the eth chip is 100mbit usb
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[19:21] <Tachyon`> you could use a gigabit one and get perhaps 200-250mbt I'd expect
[19:21] <Tachyon`> has anyone tried it?
[19:22] <pksato> wifi instability may be that usb dongle not get enough power.
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[19:23] <IT_Sean> pksato: he didn't say it was unstable. he said it was slow.
[19:23] <IT_Sean> If he had mentioned instability, i'd have asked him about his power supply.
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[19:26] <|Jeroen|> Tachyon`, are you sute it can even make 100?
[19:26] <Tachyon`> I'm not sure at all, I've not tried it, but I can't see why it wouldn't be faster
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[19:27] <Tachyon`> you're not going to get gigabit speeds but I'd think you'd get better than 100mbit
[19:27] <DeliriumTremens> so
[19:27] <DeliriumTremens> place your bets
[19:27] <DeliriumTremens> how long will QEMU run Dos before it all crashes
[19:27] <|Jeroen|> don't think it does 100 over usb
[19:27] <|Jeroen|> i would guess 50
[19:27] <DeliriumTremens> my guess is as soon as i finish typing this and switch back to the other terminal window, it will be frozen
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[19:28] * IT_Sean puts $1 on 3 minutes
[19:28] * pronto puts $3 on 1 minutes
[19:28] <DeliriumTremens> it's still going :3
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[19:29] <DeliriumTremens> so far this is the longest it's run without crashing
[19:29] <DeliriumTremens> notbad.jpg
[19:29] <pronto> celery.png
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[19:30] <DeliriumTremens> lol, it massively breaks the terminal
[19:30] <DeliriumTremens> but it doesnt crash
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[19:32] * IT_Sean puts $50 on "any time within the next four hours"
[19:33] <DeliriumTremens> http://i.imgur.com/gHq0djS.png\
[19:33] <DeliriumTremens> getting closer -.-
[19:36] * |Jeroen| puts a case of DeliriumTremens on 45min
[19:37] <DeliriumTremens> thats a lot of DT
[19:38] <|Jeroen|> yeah, but i can handle it
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[19:50] <pronto> ooo i think i know how i could make my rpi cpu temp plot 3D time,cputemp,loadavg :D
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[19:52] <Torikun> gnuplot
[19:52] <Torikun> my old company used to use watts up and connect to it via serial and feed it to gnuplot for graph
[19:52] <pronto> yeah, i'm using gnuplolt
[19:52] <pronto> http://raspberry.bagels.xxx/templog.php <<
[19:53] <wiiguy> what desktop interface does raspbian use ?
[19:53] <Torikun> nice
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[19:55] <wiiguy> ?
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[20:00] <scummos> wiiguy: whatever you want
[20:00] <pronto> http://www.i-programmer.info/images/stories/News/2013/Feb/A/regcross.gif a regex crossword puzzle
[20:00] <scummos> I think lxde is defauklt
[20:00] <scummos> pronto: wtf
[20:00] <pronto> http://www.i-programmer.info/news/144-graphics-and-games/5450-can-you-do-the-regular-expression-crossword.html <<
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[20:02] <DeliriumTremens> halp
[20:02] <DeliriumTremens> im stuck in dos
[20:02] <wiiguy> i see, then what is one the most loightweigh desktop then(but still useable ? :p
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[20:04] <wiiguy> wich can be installed on the rpi*
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[20:19] <Scriven> pronto, that's fantastic!
[20:19] <pronto> \o/
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[20:32] <Cymerc> :)
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[20:33] <Cymerc> hows everyone 's pi doing ? :D
[20:34] <Cymerc> i hope you guys pi day is getting better
[20:34] <Torikun> good and yours?
[20:34] <Cymerc> good
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[20:34] <Cymerc> just got mine yesterday
[20:34] <bertrik> haven't powered it up in two months or so ...
[20:34] <Cymerc> hopefully today i can test it out
[20:34] <Torikun> wow why bertrik
[20:34] <Cymerc> how come bertrik ?
[20:34] <Torikun> i got 3 running 24/7
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[20:34] <Torikun> lol
[20:34] <Cymerc> Torikun
[20:34] <Cymerc> what do you do with yours
[20:34] <Cymerc> i got two and still ahve set up yet
[20:35] <Cymerc> i hope tonight i can set it up
[20:35] <bertrik> I took up a port in my router that I needed for something else :)
[20:35] <Torikun> Cymerc: dns,proxy,openvpn,email,linux-toys.com,torrent, ssh,vnc
[20:35] <bertrik> *it
[20:37] <Torikun> oh and I use it for znc, the irc bouncer
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[20:38] <cody_> is there only one usable uart on the raspberrypi?
[20:38] <mgottschlag> yes
[20:39] <cody_> :(
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[20:39] <diamonds> so I dd'd my image back and checked the sha hash, it was messed up
[20:39] <diamonds> so I'm reimaging the sd
[20:39] * diamonds crosses his fingers
[20:40] <mjr> unless you make sure that you read back the same amount of data as the image originally was, it's to be expected that it's messed up (because if the card isn't exactly the size of the image, there'll be extra data to mess with it)
[20:41] <wiiguy> Torikun how much resources ya using for all that ?
[20:41] <Torikun> dunno
[20:41] <Torikun> 3 pi's
[20:41] <Torikun> lol
[20:41] <Torikun> and the site is load balanced
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[20:42] <wiiguy> i see
[20:43] <diamonds> I have a lot of trouble locating the install help articles...
[20:44] <unkle_george> Has anyone built the bcm2835-hwmon.ko kernel driver? The default thermal driver isn't picked up by lm-sensors. It looks like the hwmon driver conflicts with the thermal driver so I'd have to remove that from the kernel.
[20:44] <diamonds> mjr: I was working off this: http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup#Copying_an_image_to_the_SD_card_in_Linux_.28command_line.29
[20:44] <unkle_george> Just wondering if anything else depends on the thermal driver.
[20:44] <diamonds> "You can check what's written to the SD card by dd-ing from the card back to your harddisk to another image, and then running diff (or md5sum) on those two images. There should be no difference."
[20:44] <diamonds> I guess that's not 100% accurate (?)
[20:44] <Cymerc> any one here use pi as a packet sniffer or network analyzer tools
[20:45] <Cymerc> please let me know
[20:45] <Cymerc> ty
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[20:46] <mjr> well, it's accurate as far as it goes, but it's not very exact on how to do the dd
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[20:47] <Tachyon`> the lengths will be different
[20:47] <Tachyon`> err, well, if you dont' know what the device is
[20:47] <Tachyon`> then cat /proc/partitions
[20:48] <Tachyon`> and look for something sd card sized
[20:48] <Tachyon`> it'd be like /dev/sdb or something at a guess
[20:48] <Tachyon`> then just dd if=image.bin of=/dev/sdb (maybe) bs=65536
[20:48] <Tachyon`> and off it'll go
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[20:48] <Tachyon`> if you're wanting to read an image from the card rather than write one to it
[20:49] <Tachyon`> then just do dd if=/dev/sdb of=foo.bin bs=65536 instead
[20:49] <Tachyon`> again replacing sdb with the real device
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[20:52] <diamonds> Tachyon`: that's about what I did
[20:52] <diamonds> so we'll see if it works this second time
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[20:54] <Cymerc> :)
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[21:05] <diamonds> Tachyon` mjr yeah the image I copied back is 16GB :/
[21:06] <diamonds> damn :/ still isn't recognized by the pi
[21:06] <Tachyon`> if you don't want to copy all of it
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[21:06] <diamonds> shit fire. do I need a new sd?
[21:07] <Tachyon`> try dd ... ... bs=1048576 count=2048 (for 2GB)
[21:07] <diamonds> I'll have to look up how to check SD cards for integrity
[21:07] <Tachyon`> if you've not resized the partition and don't want to copy 14GB of blankness
[21:07] <diamonds> Tachyon`: is it pointful when I know that the image doesn't work?
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[21:07] <diamonds> like, if the image doesn't work and then the sha doesn't match, is that useful info?
[21:07] <Tachyon`> er, I suppose not
[21:08] <Tachyon`> it's useful in some situations, I'm not a bloody mind reader
[21:08] <diamonds> hmm... I'll look up linux chkdisk
[21:08] <diamonds> Tachyon`: sorry! :)
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[21:08] <Tachyon`> fsck
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[21:12] <Cymerc2020> ok
[21:13] <unkle_george> you can use badblocks to check an sdcard ... it's destructive depending on the mode
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[21:14] <Tachyon`> or just format it, then write a file that fills it, remove, reinsert and see if you still have a partition table
[21:14] <Tachyon`> if fakery is suspected
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[21:14] <Cymerc2020> whats a good sd card to get
[21:14] <Tachyon`> sandisk ultra
[21:15] <Tachyon`> there's a list, you might want to look at that
[21:15] <Tachyon`> it's on the wiki
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[21:23] <tdy> also depends on your distro
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[21:32] <diamonds> what's the best next step here?
[21:33] <diamonds> Tachyon`: I tried dd'ing back with count=2048, the hashes didn't match fwiw
[21:33] <Tachyon`> hrm, I'm not sure then, try another card?
[21:33] <diamonds> but the image says it's 1939865600 bytes on disk here
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[21:34] <Tachyon`> oh, hrm
[21:34] <Tachyon`> oh, the original one?
[21:34] <diamonds> yes
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[21:34] <Tachyon`> yeah, you need to truncate the 2MB image to the same size I suppose
[21:34] <Tachyon`> erm, 2GB
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[21:35] <diamonds> ok so my block size was 4M per recommendation
[21:35] <Tachyon`> ahh, you can probably use split with a byte size of the above
[21:35] <Tachyon`> although there might be a nicer way, I don't know
[21:36] <diamonds> I guess I'll try re d/ling the image
[21:36] <diamonds> since I can't replace the SD right away
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[21:37] <diamonds> rule that out as a possibility... tho I checked the sha1 digest after d/l and it matched raspbi site
[21:39] <DeliriumTremens> ugh
[21:39] <DeliriumTremens> stuck again -.-
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[21:48] <gordonDrogon> stuck? with what...
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[22:25] <rikkib> Feb 15 09:27:42 raspberrypi kernel: [ 939.817231] uvcvideo: Non-zero status (-5) in video completion handler.
[22:26] <rikkib> Still the same old story... Those developing the RPi kernel are incompetent
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[22:28] <ShiftPlusOne> Anyone know anything about using gpio for interrupts?
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[22:28] <ShiftPlusOne> "There is currently no support for GPIO interrupts in the official kernel, howewer a patch exists, requiring compilation of modified source tree." an, hvrm
[22:28] <ShiftPlusOne> *nvrm
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[22:35] <ShiftPlusOne> oh, I think the wiki is wrong there as well. The patch has been in the kernel for ages and is supported by wiringpi. I should stop looking at the wiki =/
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[22:38] <SwK> ShiftPlusOne: I actually ask gordon (wiringpi author) about that the other day, he confirmed interrupts do work
[22:38] <SwK> on rasbian that is
[22:38] <ciboulette> how to enable usb ethernet on the pi? i tried 'modprobe usbnet' and it doesn't give an error, but the module is not loaded according to lsmod
[22:38] <ShiftPlusOne> Yup, I found out from one of his posts on the forum
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[22:41] <gordonDrogon> ShiftPlusOne, I know about gpio and interrupts.
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[22:42] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't know, Gordon, I don't think you have much experience in the area.
[22:42] <gordonDrogon> oh, ok then...
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[22:42] <ShiftPlusOne> =p
[22:42] <Cymerc> Hello Pi's!!! :D
[22:42] <gordonDrogon> rikkib, you're free to go and help those working o the Pi kernel - it's an open source project...
[22:42] <gordonDrogon> rikkib, maintained by volunteers ...
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[22:43] <Cymerc> pi kernel..
[22:43] <gordonDrogon> maybe I'll have a look at the wiki then.
[22:43] <Cymerc> what does it take to know how to work on kernel?
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[22:43] <gordonDrogon> it's one of those situations where if you need to ask you don't know...
[22:44] <rikkib> I think you know why I have no intention of ever helping the group working on the kernel.
[22:44] <gordonDrogon> rikkib, actually, I don't.
[22:44] <ShiftPlusOne> gordonDrogon, don't start him >_<
[22:44] <Cymerc> rikkib
[22:44] <gordonDrogon> rikkib, but you know they're volunteers working in their own time.
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[22:44] <Cymerc> what do you need to learn in order to know how to work on kernels ?
[22:44] <rikkib> The treatment I received at the hands of Jamesh on the RPi forum
[22:45] <gordonDrogon> Cymerc, C, GIT and well.. more C
[22:45] <ShiftPlusOne> Cymerc, knowledge, experience and patience
[22:45] <Cymerc> C
[22:45] <Cymerc> oh ty shift+1
[22:45] <Cymerc> Borlean C or C ++
[22:45] <Cymerc> or ANSI = Borlean C
[22:45] <tdy> borland?
[22:46] <Cymerc> not borland
[22:46] <gordonDrogon> rikkib, I know nothing of that, but if you continue to call them incompetent then I'm not surprised if they don't take kindly to you.
[22:46] <rikkib> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/199
[22:47] <rikkib> Finally after several months someone has bothered to report an issue I knew existed since around the 7th month of last year
[22:47] <gordonDrogon> so there's problems. nothing's perfect.
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[22:47] <gordonDrogon> volunteers...
[22:47] <Cymerc> Rikki :) your an expert :)
[22:48] <Cymerc> nice
[22:48] <tdy> i'm missing something.. why didn't you open a gthub ticket last july then?
[22:48] <Torikun> http://www.wired.com/design/2013/02/raspbeery-pi/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+wired%2Findex+%28Wired%3A+Top+Stories%29
[22:48] <Cymerc> Torikun san!!!!!!!!
[22:48] <Torikun> lol
[22:48] <Torikun> =)
[22:48] <Cymerc> :D
[22:48] <Cymerc> <```` pi ninja is here
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[22:48] <Cymerc> no worries
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[22:50] <SStrife> gordonDrogon: I have a question for you, which I think you might be able to answer because of the work you did to Gertify the arduino/avrdude stuff.
[22:50] <SStrife> I bought another ATMega to use in my Gertboard, but it's an ATMega328, not a 328P
[22:51] <SStrife> I added a definition to avrdude.conf, and to boards.txt to reflect the new chip
[22:51] <SStrife> but in arduino the code won't verify/compile, because it says "atmega328" is an invalid MCU
[22:51] <SStrife> does it not get the mcu's from avrdude.conf?
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[22:53] <ShiftPlusOne> Cymerc, a more serious answer to your linux kernel question though. You can download the source and take a look. It will take a while to get to know how the source code is structured and the inner workings of the kernel. I myself don't touch this stuff, since I don't have the time or need, but it's all out there for you.
[22:53] <Cymerc> ty shift+1
[22:54] <Cymerc> i m really interested in linux kernel
[22:54] <SStrife> does the kernel contain much per-platform assembly code?
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[22:55] <ShiftPlusOne> Maybe start by writting a driver/module to get a rough idea. There are lots of books on linux driver development and such.
[22:55] <tdy> if you've taken any intro OS course, you'll have seen bits and pieces already.. if not, i seriously doubt you can make any amount of reasonable progress
[22:55] <rikkib> Cymerc, Have you build a cross compiler yet?
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[22:55] <Cymerc> :( never
[22:55] <Cymerc> only did kids python and java
[22:55] <Cymerc> sorry
[22:56] <rikkib> I suggest crosstools-ng
[22:56] <rikkib> This is the same tool used to build the RPi kernel
[22:56] <Cymerc> ok . ty rikki
[22:56] <Cymerc> crosstools-ng
[22:57] <rikkib> You can get a precompiled version on githhub
[22:57] <Cymerc> roger that
[22:57] <rikkib> But I suggest building yourself as a learning experience
[22:57] <Cymerc> will do
[22:57] <Cymerc> i check out crosstools
[22:58] <ShiftPlusOne> Cymerc, you are running linux, right?
[22:58] <rikkib> There is plenty of stuff on the net about cross compiling
[22:58] <Cymerc> i do have linux running
[22:59] * ShiftPlusOne suspects Cymerc is running windows and only has linux in a VM O_o
[22:59] <rikkib> Basic steps are to grab the current kernel source and use the config for a running kernel
[22:59] <Cymerc> lol
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[22:59] <Cymerc> currently on this yes
[22:59] <Cymerc> im using is windows
[22:59] <ShiftPlusOne> That works fine. I've done a lot of compiling from a VM.
[22:59] <Cymerc> but my other pcs and lappy is ubuntu , and i do have puppy running also on my old netbook
[22:59] <Cymerc> i do have my ras pi but its not even open yet
[23:00] <Cymerc> lol
[23:00] <Cymerc> im about to assemble my ras pi tonight
[23:00] <Cymerc> i just got it yesterda after waiting so long
[23:00] <Cymerc> it was backordered
[23:00] <Cymerc> lo
[23:00] <Cymerc> lol
[23:00] <ShiftPlusOne> Hope it works and you didn't order from RS.
[23:00] <SwK> lol
[23:00] <rikkib> Ahhh... You have to run Linux on an I386 are mac platform to do cross compiling
[23:00] <Cymerc> RS
[23:00] <SwK> Newark/E14 FTW
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[23:00] <Cymerc> I386 ???
[23:00] <Cymerc> u serius
[23:00] <Cymerc> yes i got it from Newark
[23:01] <Cymerc> i jsut got a call and they ask me if i have any complains about newark
[23:01] <Cymerc> i said nope
[23:01] <Cymerc> i got my pi
[23:01] <Cymerc> im happy
[23:01] <ShiftPlusOne> Should shamed them for making RS look bad >=/
[23:01] <ShiftPlusOne> *should've
[23:01] <Cymerc> indeed
[23:01] <Cymerc> rikki I386
[23:02] <Cymerc> yes i know this sr engineer for motorola
[23:02] <Cymerc> he uses old machines
[23:02] <rikkib> A standard PC running Linux
[23:02] <Cymerc> yes
[23:02] <Cymerc> thats what he uses
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> SStrife, hi...
[23:02] <Cymerc> he doesnt even buy those i5 i7 or i3
[23:02] <Cymerc> etc
[23:02] <Cymerc> pentium 4
[23:02] <Cymerc> thats his newest use
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> SStrife, just tell it it's a 328p. same chip - the 'p' is lower power.
[23:03] <SpeedEvil> old machines van cost more than new machines, in the first couple of years, if used as servers
[23:03] <rikkib> I386, ARM, Mac are all platforms that can run Linux
[23:03] <Cymerc> i see
[23:03] <Cymerc> i do agree speedevil
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[23:03] <Cymerc> its crazy a new socket478 mobo cost so much
[23:03] <plugwash> they can sometimes but it depends on lot on the machine and your effective cost of electricity
[23:04] <Cymerc> yes.. indeed plug
[23:04] <Cymerc> less heat
[23:04] <rikkib> I396 refers to the standard Intel platform
[23:04] <Cymerc> also am i right ?
[23:04] <Cymerc> I386 or 396 .. facepalm.. im lost
[23:04] <rikkib> i386
[23:04] <rikkib> SORRY
[23:04] <plugwash> effective cost of electricity can be higher or lower than the price you pay your utility for electricity depending on whether the heat produced is displacing heating or requiring extra cooling
[23:04] <Cymerc> you know what im so upset about our irc
[23:05] <Cymerc> we still cant run it on android smartphone
[23:05] <Amadiro> Cymerc, i386 or x86 for the whole family
[23:05] <Cymerc> ok ty Amadiro
[23:05] <rikkib> Otherwise known as the standard IBM architecture
[23:05] <Matt> normally i386 refers to the 32-bit varients of x86
[23:05] <Cymerc> are you guys all Electrical & electronic engineering
[23:05] <Cymerc> lol :D
[23:06] <rikkib> Which started back in the 8080 days
[23:06] <Cymerc> seems you guys are in real depth
[23:06] <Cymerc> yes 8080
[23:06] <Cymerc> i remember that 4 digits lol
[23:06] <Cymerc> hehehe
[23:06] <Matt> and x86_64, amd64 or emt64 for the 64-bit varients
[23:06] <Cymerc> :D haahh Mattt
[23:06] <Cymerc> true
[23:06] <Cymerc> amd
[23:06] <Cymerc> didnt amd 64 came out with 64 bit first
[23:06] <Cymerc> but intel made it run better
[23:06] <Matt> why do you think it's called amd64?
[23:06] * rikkib has been into computing even before the IBM came along
[23:07] <Cymerc> oh sweet
[23:07] <rikkib> ever
[23:07] <Matt> they're AMD's 64-bit extensions
[23:07] <Cymerc> rikkib can you guide me to be a real jedi warrior like you rikkib
[23:07] <Cymerc> lol
[23:07] <Cymerc> ok
[23:07] <Matt> at the time, Intel had washed their hands of extended x86 and were focused on Itanium
[23:07] <Cymerc> i see
[23:07] <Cymerc> Intel is own by the gov
[23:07] <Amadiro> Cymerc, intel also had 64 bit architectures before "amd64" called ia64, but it flopped
[23:07] <Cymerc> Intelligence
[23:07] <Cymerc> i see
[23:07] <Cymerc> it flopped
[23:07] <mjr> amd came up with x86_64 first. 64-bit CPUs were around well before that.
[23:08] <Cymerc> i see
[23:08] <Cymerc> but ok
[23:08] <Matt> Amadiro: there's a reason the industry refers to it as Itanic :)
[23:08] <hybr1d8> sparc and power were both 64-bit before x86
[23:08] <Cymerc> now i need to knwo this from all of you
[23:08] <Amadiro> Matt, I have the whole 12-or-so volumes of the user-manual on my shelf...
[23:08] <Cymerc> can i use raspberr pi as a network analyzer
[23:08] <Matt> Amadiro: fun :)
[23:08] <Amadiro> never so much as looked into them
[23:08] <Cymerc> use for penetration testing
[23:08] <mjr> and alpha
[23:08] <steve_rox> think amd started makeing the home 64 bit cpu a bit early , i had a 64bit cpu on winxp32bit
[23:08] <chithead> mips made the first 64 bit cpu that was available to consumers and small businesses
[23:08] <rikkib> Cymerc, I am happy to mentor but not in here... Via email is the best way. whois bencom.co.nz for my email address.
[23:09] <hybr1d8> ooo - almost forgot alpha :P
[23:09] <Matt> we've got an itanium2 board and a pair of 1.6GHz CPUs somewhere at the office
[23:09] <Cymerc> got it rikkib
[23:09] <mjr> and yeah, there was itanic, not sure if it actually came before x86-64 or not, don't really much care either
[23:09] <chithead> itanium2 systems are currently cheap on ebay, only ~150??? for a two-way server with 8gb ram
[23:09] <Matt> hybr1d8: why do you think HP bought compaq?
[23:09] <Cymerc> whois
[23:09] <hybr1d8> ;)
[23:10] <Cymerc> there is no such nick
[23:10] <Cymerc> weird
[23:10] <chithead> hp wanted their pc business. most of the dec cpu engineers went to work for intel
[23:10] <hybr1d8> and a couple to sun
[23:10] <rikkib> One of my skills is as a business mentor and that is what I am currently doing for a business here in NZ atm
[23:10] <Cymerc> i did the whois on bencom.co.nz
[23:11] <Cymerc> nothing pops up
[23:11] <Cymerc> lol
[23:11] <Cymerc> weird
[23:11] <rikkib> Hmmm
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[23:11] <Matt> chithead: HP got the rights to alpha in the process
[23:11] <rikkib> pwb@bencom
[23:11] <Cymerc> ok got it
[23:11] <rikkib> .co.nz of course
[23:11] <Matt> as I understand my history, a bunch of that got plowed back into itanium
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[23:11] <Cymerc> ty
[23:11] <Cymerc> rikiib
[23:12] <ciboulette> could anyone give me a hint how to get usb ethernet to work on the Pi?
[23:12] <Cymerc> ok bbl guys... driving home
[23:12] <Cymerc> thanks rikkib be back in a bit
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[23:43] <a1w1ll> can i remove a package i cloned from github the same way i remove a package i get-apt 'd?
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[23:48] <SStrife> gordonDrogon: Thanks for that. :)
[23:48] <SStrife> I thought that might be the case, but never hurts to check!
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[23:50] <tdy> a1w1ll: are you saying you cloned a package and then ran `make && make install'
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[23:51] <rikkib> http://www.bencom.co.nz/cam/ Test gateway up and running again today. Motion was falling over on the X86 gateway last time I was running it...
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[23:57] <rikkib> Proof of concept camera running in a commercial environment. RPi camera on localnet and a gateway server on the localnet. Both running motion. Access to the gateway via port forwarding on the adsl router
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