#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-02-15

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[0:01] <pierut> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08h0IVs4RKQ&list=AL94UKMTqg-9D5vANPdvwljlM9MlnVMEmy
[0:01] <pierut> :3
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[0:06] <rikkib> Test cam 1 fell over
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[0:07] <rikkib> This RPi is running watchdog
[0:07] <gordonDrogon> update rate is a little slow on the video there...
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[0:08] <rikkib> 1 sec but can stretch out
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[0:09] <markedathome> ciboulette: what is the problem with ethernet? lsmod | grep net doesn't show usbnet for an ethernet connection using the onboard nic. are you using an external adapter?
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[0:09] <necr0tik> Anyone know how to fix the usb resetting after about 2-3 minutes of being on, two-three times before dieing completely? BS1238 pi.
[0:09] <ciboulette> markedathome: i'm trying to connect an android device to the pi
[0:10] <ciboulette> markedathome: over in #raspbian it was said that i don't see usbnet with lsmod because it's compiled into the kernel, so that shouldn't be the proble
[0:10] <plugwash> markedathome, he is trying to use USB to get a network connection between an andriod TV stick and the Pi. We just had quite a discussion over in #raspbian and i'm pretty sure his problems are on the andriod TV stick end not the Pi end
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[0:10] <markedathome> hold on, im in raspbian so I'll look there
[0:11] <rikkib> Hmm that is not good... Restarting motion with the watchdog monitoring the motion pid makes the machine restart.
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[0:13] <rikkib> When the kernel bug gets motion it just closes the streaming port and not motion itself.
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[0:31] <rikkib> http://www.stuff.co.nz/waikato-times/8308640/Guilty-plea-in-cold-case
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[0:36] <rikkib> Close to home for me... I knew him. He denied it to use at the time. The person I knew him through died in a car crash after visiting another person on the methadone program. Old school friends that died due to drugs or booze are numbering up at 53 years of age.
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[0:42] <pierut> http://i.imgur.com/tLxPd7h.png
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[0:45] <chas> is there a cubie channel?
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[0:47] <- *chas* help
[0:47] <- *chas* ?
[0:47] <- *chas* !help
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[0:50] <cbxbiker61> cubie? you mean #cubox?
[0:50] <chas> maybe ... I guess I'll go look :)
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[0:51] <chas> do they talk about the cubie board/
[0:51] <cbxbiker61> no, about CuBox
[0:52] <chas> oh
[0:52] <chas> ok afk a while tnks Cbx
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[0:53] <cbxbiker61> i just got rasbmc running last night, looks real good, other than video/audio drifted out of sync in one case
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[0:54] <cbxbiker61> i actually fixed that in the CuBox xbmc port, i'll have to dig into the raspbmc code and see if i can fix it in a similar fashion
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[0:55] <SpeedEvil> somewhat off topic - though not really - is anyone aware of a way to get a gigish of mobile Internet per month shared across multiple sims cheaper than 3's ??7.50
[0:55] <SpeedEvil> (unshared)
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[1:11] <markedathome> SpeedEvil: giff gaff or virginmedia? modaco had something this week about using the big data tariff with a zte blade III
[1:13] <markedathome> > or this --> http://www.modaco.com/page/news/_/android/mobile-broadband-on-a-budget-or-free-r950
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[1:22] <steve_rox> anything fun going on?
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[1:26] <Viper7> finally got a console based spectrum analyser running on my pi
[1:27] <Viper7> so much noise tho >.< even after windowing
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[1:27] <Viper7> my math skills are too rusty :<
[1:28] <Viper7> was pretty easy to get up and running with mpd, i actually like it a lot more than i thought i would
[1:28] <mgottschlag> anybody here who wants to double-check that 0x4000 in GPIO_LEV1 is 1/0 depending on whether hdmi is plugged in?
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[1:29] <mgottschlag> (should be gpio 46)
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[1:33] <necr0tik> Anyone know how to fix the usb resetting after about 2-3 minutes of being on, two-three times before dieing completely? BS1238 pi.
[1:35] <steve_rox> polyfuses?
[1:36] <necr0tik> There is only one, and as far as my testing early indicated, it was fine.
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[1:37] <Viper7> necr0tik: using a hub?
[1:38] <necr0tik> It happens with nothing plugged in at all, hdmi only, ethernet only, hdmi+ethernet, and either of my powere hubs
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[1:38] <Viper7> then how do you know usb resets
[1:38] <Viper7> if nothing is plugged in
[1:38] <necr0tik> Because the lan dies and dmesg's?
[1:39] <Viper7> you mean the power supply usb connection resets?
[1:39] <necr0tik> The usb stack stops working, which kills the lan and anything usb based.
[1:39] <Viper7> you know the micro-usb power port doesnt actually have a data connection right?
[1:39] <necr0tik> I didn'
[1:39] <necr0tik> I didn't say anything about the micro usb port.
[1:41] <Viper7> just trying to quantify your actual issue here
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[1:41] <necr0tik> I have tried with three seperate power supplies. One of them is of particularly nice quality and can supply up to 3a. the other is my galaxy s2 charger, and some random pos one. Also tried the usb port on a server to power it.
[1:42] <necr0tik> Voltage was low on two of the usb warts. The good one had volts in the correct range.
[1:42] <Viper7> the usb/lan controller is a seperate chip, which often draws more power than the rest of the pi combined
[1:42] <necr0tik> Oh I have an adafruit one too.
[1:42] <SpeedEvil> hmm
[1:43] <necr0tik> I have no idea what to do. Return it for more shipping than it costs, or order another and wait 6 weeks seems kind of silly.
[1:43] <Viper7> if its not a voltage issue, and isnt resolvable via software (slightly corrupt image on the SD maybe?), prognosis is not good
[1:43] <necr0tik> I tried raspbmc originally, I loaded raspbian no different.
[1:44] <Viper7> you could try bypassing the polyfuse altogether, power the pi directly from the GPIO pins
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[1:44] <Viper7> +5v to pin 2, GND to pin 6
[1:44] <necr0tik> Yea I don't have anything that I could plug into that currently.
[1:45] <Viper7> might it be possible for the polyfuse to recrystalize poorly?
[1:45] <necr0tik> What steps would rule out a voltage issue.
[1:45] <DeliriumTremens> thats one way to shutdown dos hah
[1:45] <Viper7> check voltage on the test points on the pi?
[1:46] <necr0tik> And im looking for 4.8-5v on tp1/2
[1:47] <Viper7> 4.8 - 5.3
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[1:49] <necr0tik> 4.90-4.95. usb resets goes to 5, then back down as lan lights back up
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[1:51] <Viper7> should be fine :/
[1:51] <necr0tik> poly is dropping .05 currently.
[1:51] <necr0tik> Just have LAN plugged in.
[1:52] <Viper7> either way its not right
[1:52] <Viper7> i run my pi from a 750mA pc usb port, or one of several cheap 500mA - 1A usb chargers, and ive never seen the usb/lan chip reboot on me
[1:52] <Viper7> but i also dont use hdmi
[1:52] <necr0tik> Well I'm not using it currently :)
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[1:53] <UnaClocker> The USB/lan chip used to overheat and crash all the time on the original Pi's..
[1:53] <Viper7> not in 2 minutes
[1:53] <UnaClocker> They had the lan chip's internal voltage regulator wired up wrong, so it was running, kind of fighting the regulator that was supposed to be doing that task.
[1:53] <necr0tik> http://elinux.org/RaspberryPi_Boards notes an issue someone had that sounds like mine on the 1238
[1:53] <UnaClocker> 2 minutes of full network load, sure..
[1:54] <necr0tik> also this: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=26123
[1:54] <Viper7> UnaClocker: the issue had nothing to do with network load from what i saw
[1:54] <Viper7> it was the usb/lan chip attempting to power the pi, not vice-versa
[1:54] <Viper7> so pi load matters, not network
[1:54] <UnaClocker> Well, from personal experience, you'r half right.
[1:57] <necr0tik> Apparently the chinese ones are weird?
[1:57] <Viper7> the 512mb versions are more power hungry than the 256mb ones (which is what i have)
[1:58] <Viper7> the chinese pis? apart from being red and missing a CE mark, not really ?
[1:58] <necr0tik> Mine is green and has the CE mark.
[1:58] <UnaClocker> Viper7: Not according to my tests.
[1:58] <UnaClocker> Viper7: I have a 512mb I converted to a Model A, it draws exactly what they said the new Model A draws.
[2:02] <tdy> i assume it still has 512M after the conversion?
[2:03] <UnaClocker> Yup..
[2:03] <UnaClocker> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1EihTxIdnQ I documented my tests and findings.
[2:04] <UnaClocker> Did that before I found the post with the A's current draw..
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[2:07] <Viper7> trying to find the link i saw the other day
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[2:08] <Viper7> guy tested dozens of pis with various power supplies and various devices attached, and logged all the results
[2:08] <UnaClocker> Meh.. Devices, power supplies.. In the end, the extra 256megs of ram makes no difference in current draw.
[2:08] <Viper7> going from 256 to 512mb ram, and removing the sd card and hdmi, the usage was the same
[2:09] <Viper7> 256mb of ram is going to draw more than the SD :P
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[2:10] <UnaClocker> 256mb of ram is going to draw the same as 512mb of ram.
[2:13] <Viper7> lol, ok
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[2:37] <jakeri> hmn
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[2:41] <jakeri> i'm trying to put up irssi shell to my raspberry and i've never used irssi or shell services :P
[2:41] <UnaClocker> Installing RetroPie on my Sega Genesis.. ;)
[2:42] <jakeri> you ruin your genesis :|
[2:42] <UnaClocker> It was a very dead Genesis. Spent quite a bit of time trying to revive it.
[2:42] <UnaClocker> It'll work again soon, same controllers, same games.. ;)
[2:42] <jakeri> what was the problem
[2:42] <jakeri> totally dead or ?
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[2:43] <UnaClocker> Mostly dead.. One out of about 45 tries, it'd work..
[2:43] <jakeri> long ass boot time ;)
[2:43] <UnaClocker> Reflowed a couple solder joints to get it to work that well.
[2:43] <UnaClocker> No need to turn it off anymore, draws less than 5 watts of power..
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[2:43] <jakeri> so did you check the psu ? or the caps
[2:44] <jakeri> bad psu could cause the whole problem
[2:44] <UnaClocker> Nope. Don't care. :)
[2:44] <jakeri> :P
[2:45] <jakeri> oh well i've got old totally dead pioneer cd player in which i'm putting one of my pi's
[2:45] <UnaClocker> :)
[2:45] <jakeri> and a dvd drive and atari compliant ports
[2:46] <jakeri> also thinking about using the vfd display of the player
[2:46] <jakeri> but that'll probly go over my programming skills
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[2:48] <Torikun> oi
[2:48] <jakeri> oi
[2:49] <Torikun> sup
[2:49] <jakeri> nothing much :)
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[2:49] <Torikun> same here
[2:49] <jakeri> wondering how to drive vfd display on gpio and how to set up irssi shell
[2:49] <Torikun> ah
[2:50] <jakeri> aaand now i have lost the vfd ! :D
[2:50] <Torikun> lol
[2:50] <Torikun> annits gone.
[2:50] <Torikun> lol
[2:51] <jakeri> found it !
[2:51] <jakeri> hooked up to psu :)
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[2:54] <jakeri> i also wonder how to use the cd player buttons through gpio to control media playback
[2:54] <Scriven> irssi shell? Just run a screen session w/ irssi running inside, then disconnect/reconnect when you ssh in?
[2:54] <Scriven> or am I missing something?
[2:54] <pierut> i need to hook a car cigarette lighter up to the 12v rail in my pc
[2:55] <pierut> stupid lighter died ;_;
[2:55] <jakeri> Scriven it's that simple? ok thanks :)
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[2:56] <Scriven> irssi the command-line irc program? Yeah, I think there's even an example similar to that on their site. I was looking to set it up on my portable pi project and came across it googling.
[2:56] <Scriven> Should register that nick on freenode and log in here from the pi too. ;)
[2:56] <jakeri> oh :)
[2:56] <Scriven> This is my first time using cli irc in ages, but screen is a must-install on all my systems, I spend so much time in cli.
[2:56] <Torikun> znc is better than screen with irssi
[2:56] <Scriven> AH, didn't know that or about znc, will research Torikun! TY
[2:57] <Torikun> you can use any client on any device to connect to your pi
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[2:58] <Scriven> Wow, znc seems quite interesting, will have to look into it!
[2:58] <Scriven> learned 2 things today! ZNC and Bulletproof Coffee!
[2:58] <tonsit> i'm using znc right now :p
[2:58] <Torikun> =)
[2:58] <Torikun> same here
[2:58] <Torikun> made irc more efficient
[2:58] <tonsit> it lets me hide behind my domain, tonsit.com
[2:59] <Scriven> so znc is running on 'some stable server', and the pi bounces through it?
[2:59] <Torikun> my pi hosts the znc server
[2:59] <jakeri> i wonder how i'll get used to irssi :P
[2:59] <tonsit> or you put it on your pi and connect anywhere to it
[2:59] <jakeri> i've used mirc since...
[2:59] <jakeri> since... :D
[2:59] <Scriven> xchat FTW! ;)
[2:59] <Scriven> <-- linux desktop since about 1995
[2:59] <Torikun> you can use irssi and znc'
[2:59] <jakeri> i think i was 9 when i first used mirc :S
[3:00] <jakeri> and that was in -98 :P
[3:00] <Torikun> my first irc was ircle in 1995
[3:00] <Scriven> But if znc is on the pi, won't you lose connection on reboot, whereas if it was on an external stable server your connection would be stable over client machine reboot, correct?
[3:00] <tonsit> yes
[3:00] <Torikun> Scriven: it runs as a daemon will auto connect
[3:00] <Scriven> jakeri, I was BBSing at 12ish, in the early 80s. Hayes (not compatible, real) 300-baud Apple ][ modem FTW!
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[3:00] <Torikun> lol
[3:00] <jakeri> :S
[3:01] * Scriven is old enough to have joined the internet during the September-That-Never-Ended. But NOT via AOL, honest!
[3:01] <jakeri> i've had my amiga since i was 4 :P
[3:01] <Viper7> jakeri: ive found MPD really nice for stuff like that (audio control)
[3:01] <Viper7> plus it gives you an easy way in to provide visualizations and such on that VFD :P
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[3:03] <jakeri> it's seven segment style vfd ;P
[3:03] <Scriven> jakeri, first computer I ever touched was an original British Sinclair (pre Timex). Blew my young mind.
[3:03] <jakeri> :P
[3:03] <Viper7> jakeri: thats fine :P
[3:03] * Scriven is old, yes. :P
[3:03] <jakeri> my oldest machine is binatone tv master 6 :D
[3:03] <jakeri> or maybe hmm
[3:04] <jakeri> videopac 7000
[3:04] <jakeri> not sure
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[3:04] <voyo> hi, does any1 is using libnfc ? I'd like to ask if I can use SPI or I2C for this ?
[3:05] <moebius_eye> Hi.
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[3:05] <moebius_eye> I'd like to know for what purpose are meant the two ports on the Rpi.
[3:06] <moebius_eye> I don't know how to say it. I know it isn't "port"
[3:06] <Viper7> moebius_eye: the ribbon connectors?
[3:06] <Viper7> one for a camera, one for a touchscreen lcd
[3:06] <moebius_eye> Viper7: Yes. :)
[3:06] <moebius_eye> And, these are standard?
[3:07] <Viper7> http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals#MIPI_CSI-2
[3:07] <jakeri> screen connector is quite rare
[3:07] <voyo> libnfc, no one ? rly ? :(
[3:07] <Viper7> not this little black duck
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[3:09] <Scriven> When's the touchscreen coming? Still gonna save for a 4d systems one, probably...
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[3:10] <Torikun> official rpi touchscreen?
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[3:12] <jakeri> damn i want maemo to my galaxy s X(
[3:12] <jakeri> i love maemo
[3:13] <jakeri> or meego
[3:13] <jakeri> just damn my n900 :(
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[3:15] <jakeri> it lost its imei a week after i bought it :/
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[3:15] <jakeri> well i bought it for 20euros
[3:15] <jakeri> but anyways X(
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[3:17] <pksato> 5 vfd http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_K5CSOG0RQ
[3:19] <jakeri> :P
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[3:23] <SpeedEvil> lost its imei?
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[3:24] <jakeri> SpeedEvil yeah
[3:24] <jakeri> i think the eeprom partially fried of something
[3:24] <jakeri> *or
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[3:25] <SpeedEvil> more likely soldering issues on the 3g chip set
[3:26] <SpeedEvil> I 'm sort of looking for a dead modem one to try resurrecting
[3:29] <Tachyon`> what, a USB dongle or something?
[3:29] <SpeedEvil> no
[3:29] <SpeedEvil> the internal modem
[3:29] <Tachyon`> oh, hrm
[3:29] <Tachyon`> I assume you've tried reflashing it with stock firmware
[3:30] <Tachyon`> I've never heard of an IMEI going walkabout like that before
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[3:41] <voyo> guys, Im connection 5V device to rbpi's uart. it works, but Im worry.. should I be or not ?
[3:41] <ShiftPlusOne> yes, you should be
[3:42] <ShiftPlusOne> if it still works fine, you're lucky
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[3:42] <voyo> yes still works fine. but as I said , Im worrying ;)
[3:43] <ShiftPlusOne> You still have it connected?
[3:43] <voyo> nope. short time tests only
[3:43] <Tachyon`> how much current can that take
[3:43] <plugwash> putting 5V signals into the Pis IO pins is very likely to destroy them
[3:43] <voyo> hm, not sure. Its PN532
[3:43] <Tachyon`> oh, they're also 3.3?
[3:44] <plugwash> you may have got lucky because of weak drive strength or low drive levels (not all 5V devices actually have a high level as high as 5V) but I really wouldn't reccomend it
[3:44] <voyo> unfortunately it wont work when I power it with 3v3, need to have 5V :/
[3:45] <voyo> I measured about 4.5V
[3:45] <voyo> on RX pin of this device
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[3:46] <jakeri> :|
[3:46] <jakeri> Tachyon` yes i tried the flash but imei did not return :/
[3:47] <plugwash> 74LVC logic is your friend
[3:47] <plugwash> a resistive divider may also be an option for slow signals
[3:48] <voyo> just looking for something ready on ebay...
[3:49] <voyo> its actually board made for arduino.
[3:50] <SpeedEvil> for serial, 10k series resistors should be OK
[3:50] <SpeedEvil> not ideal
[3:51] <voyo> what about I2C and/or SPI ?
[3:51] <hybr1d8> http://littlebirdelectronics.com/products/logic-level-converter-module
[3:51] <hybr1d8> that can handle the 5v->3.3V problems
[3:52] <voyo> for 10$ ? lol
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[3:52] <hybr1d8> source page: http://www.freetronics.com/collections/all-products/products/logic-level-converter-module
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[3:52] <hybr1d8> only $7 from there ;)
[3:52] <voyo> + shippment ;)
[3:53] <hybr1d8> safer option than resistors since handles both directions properly - and even steps the 3V up to 5V for comms back
[3:53] <SpeedEvil> for i2c, simply polyp to 5v
[3:53] <SpeedEvil> err
[3:53] <Tachyon`> bloody glad you mentioned that
[3:53] <SpeedEvil> 3.3
[3:53] <Tachyon`> gertboard arrived yesterday
[3:53] <Tachyon`> was thinking at least some of it was 5
[3:53] <Tachyon`> ah well
[3:54] <Tachyon`> at what speed would a potential divider start posing problems? I assumed that'd work for anything pretty much
[3:54] <voyo> this 74LVC seems very cheap, I think I made something myself on it..
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[4:15] <voyo> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/8745 - 1.95$
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[4:18] <Torikun> http://www.cispaisback.com/ Sign petition!
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[4:26] <leftyfb> can someone tell me why this just outputs "1" then "Good bye!" and ends when 'cat lock' == 1 still ?
[4:26] <leftyfb> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=CJy2qUFi
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[4:27] <hybr1d8> 'cat lock' is trying to execute that command
[4:29] <hybr1d8> so unless there is a file with the contents '1' it will exit accordingly
[4:29] <leftyfb> ok? That's what I want it to do to get 0 or 1
[4:29] <leftyfb> there is
[4:29] <leftyfb> the script will run until I 'echo "0" > lock'
[4:30] <hybr1d8> what is in the file called 'lock'?
[4:30] <hybr1d8> It might contain a newline (ie '1\n') and so would not match
[4:30] <hybr1d8> also you are trying to compare a string to a number
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[4:32] <leftyfb> oh, I guess so
[4:32] <leftyfb> so how would I compare it to "1" as a string?
[4:32] <leftyfb> there is no \n btw
[4:32] <hybr1d8> try this instead:
[4:32] <leftyfb> it's created by 'echo "1" > lock'
[4:32] <hybr1d8> lock = '1'
[4:32] <hybr1d8> while lock == '1' :
[4:32] <hybr1d8> forces the 1 to be treated as a string
[4:32] <hybr1d8> tested and working here ;)
[4:33] <leftyfb> not working for me
[4:33] <leftyfb> oh wait
[4:33] <leftyfb> perfect!
[4:33] <leftyfb> thank you
[4:33] <hybr1d8> :)
[4:34] <leftyfb> though I can guarantee there's a ton of better ways to do what I'm doing, but this is my first attempt at python
[4:34] <leftyfb> so far i'm making progress
[4:34] <leftyfb> i'm outputting to an LCD
[4:34] <hybr1d8> since you want it to exit when you put a 0 in that file it is better to test for that directly
[4:35] <leftyfb> 20x4
[4:35] <hybr1d8> ie: while lock != '0' :
[4:35] <leftyfb> why is it better?
[4:36] <hybr1d8> because that way it will handle if some other value is in the file (or there is random other stuff in there)
[4:37] <hybr1d8> since you defined the desire is to "run until I 'echo "0" > lock'" then you may as well test for that
[4:38] <leftyfb> ok, I get it
[4:38] <leftyfb> so I'm following this tutorial: http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/08/20x4-lcd-module-control-using-python/#more-481
[4:39] <leftyfb> do you know if there's a way to output something justified to the left and something else on the right on the same line?
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[4:45] <Scriven> leftyfb, haven't read the link yet, but if you know the screen-size you may be able to fake it.
[4:45] <Scriven> perhaps write the whole line at once, with spaces: "left justified stuff right justified stuff\n"
[4:45] <leftyfb> probably, but it'll be a lot more work .. especially when the output will be different lenths
[4:46] <leftyfb> %s/lenths/lengths/
[4:46] <ShiftPlusOne> leftyfb, yes. There are commands to move the cursor to a certain position and to change the mode so that it prints the other way.
[4:47] <ShiftPlusOne> Though in that case it would be written backwards on the right, but you can experiment and figure it out. You can just get the length of what you want and move the cursor to the end of the line-length.
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[4:47] <ShiftPlusOne> But yes, it's absolutely doable.
[4:47] <Scriven> sounds like it'll still require similar maths, figure out start position for 'right side' stuff, position cursor, print.
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[4:48] <ShiftPlusOne> Or, flip the text back to front and then write it backwards from the end, so that it comes up properly
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[4:50] <Scriven> more toys I'll have to save my pennies to buy! LCD FTW! (Joke for Canadians buried in there...)
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[4:56] <SwK> anyone noticed audio sampling issues when using a USB audio device?
[4:56] <SwK> i'm wondering if I'm getting bitten by that possible USB packet loss bug
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[5:25] <SStrife> chas, #cubieboard
[5:26] <SStrife> hahah, oops, i was scrolled up a fair way :-/
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[5:32] <chas> SStrife: good timing though, thanks
[5:32] <Scriven> LOL! FTW!
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[5:51] <SwK> leftyfb: you should probably also move the print lock til after the lock=commands??? if you want to see whats in lock after commands
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[5:51] <leftyfb> I already removed it
[5:51] <SwK> lolol
[5:51] <leftyfb> was only for debugging
[5:52] <SwK> sorry had scrolled back and forgot to get back down to the bottom
[5:53] <leftyfb> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ccznakqle0dntbl/IMG_3829.JPG
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[5:53] <SwK> nice
[5:54] <leftyfb> it's pulling that from snmp from the other pi in "production" at the moment. When I get this all wired in perm with it, it'll be pulling from a log directly
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[5:54] <SwK> nice
[5:54] <SwK> where'd you get that LCD?
[5:54] <leftyfb> adafruit
[5:54] <SwK> that the RGB one?
[5:55] <leftyfb> nope
[5:55] <leftyfb> just blue
[5:55] <leftyfb> white on blue
[5:55] <SwK> I have a few of their 16x4 RGB "plates"
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[5:55] <leftyfb> https://www.dropbox.com/s/07aug9g1ckiix1h/IMG_3809.JPG
[5:55] <leftyfb> that's what this is for
[5:55] <SwK> hah nice
[5:55] <leftyfb> and this is phase 1 ... phase 2 will be my main 72g tank
[5:56] <leftyfb> with all sorts of sensors
[5:56] <SwK> salt water?
[5:56] <leftyfb> yup
[5:56] <leftyfb> both of them
[5:56] <SwK> you going to monitor the water salinity etc also?
[5:56] <leftyfb> yup
[5:56] <SwK> cool
[5:56] <leftyfb> well, not on the little tank
[5:56] <leftyfb> the little tank is basically testing for all this
[5:56] <SwK> I like the little tank tho
[5:57] <SwK> switchpi.org is what I'm working on
[5:57] <leftyfb> in that last pic, the orange light is pulsing to each check ... the green is to show heat/fan status. If the heater is on, the light is read, fan=blue, neither =green
[5:57] <leftyfb> the power button switches the light from day -> night -> off
[5:58] <SwK> thats cool
[5:58] <SwK> I'm using the RGB LCD to indicate call status, things like Off Hook, Answered, Secure, message waiting
[5:59] <leftyfb> you're gonna run freeswitch on the pi?
[5:59] <leftyfb> bold undertaking there :)
[5:59] <SwK> already doing it ;)
[6:00] <leftyfb> so, pi + battery-pack + wifi + mic/speaker?
[6:00] <SwK> yeah
[6:00] <leftyfb> neat
[6:00] <SwK> i might even cram it into an old 2500 phone set
[6:01] <leftyfb> love these toys :)
[6:01] <SwK> already ripped apart one, harvested the DTMF pad, looks like a standard 4x3 matrix setup, wire that up to one of the i2c converters and go heh
[6:01] <SwK> use one of the GPIOs for the hook switch heh
[6:01] <leftyfb> the temp sensors and eventually the ph, salinity, O2, etc are all plugged into an arduino
[6:02] <SwK> then talking over serial or USB?
[6:02] <leftyfb> yep
[6:02] <SwK> cool
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[6:02] <leftyfb> oh, and all the power will be through the arduino as well
[6:02] <leftyfb> I think
[6:03] <SwK> heh I'm driving all the power via the USB hub heh
[6:04] <SwK> so I'm considering removing the rca and 1/8" jacks and tossing them, then removing the USB jack and hard wiring straight to the input on the usb hub??? already feeding power via the usb hub completely
[6:05] <leftyfb> gonna power the hub with the battery pack?
[6:05] <SwK> yeah
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[6:05] <SwK> got a 10Ah pack off amazon that outputs 5vdc @ 3A
[6:05] <leftyfb> I got a tiny little hub I bought back when I was messing with my eeepc .. had it hardwired in directly
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[6:06] <leftyfb> welp, been a productive night ... off to bed now
[6:06] <SwK> i have the remaining parts for the DTMF pad getting here from adafruit next week??? so it should be interesting???
[6:07] <SwK> have fun!
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[6:18] <boakun> well this is kind of annoying. my gpio ir was working fine 2 days ago. now i cant get it to recognize anything
[6:18] <boakun> anyone have any advice
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[6:20] <SwK> boakun: BFH Micro Adjustment Tool?
[6:20] <boakun> pardon me
[6:21] <SwK> BFH
[6:21] <SwK> Big (ummm) Hammer :)
[6:21] <boakun> i notice i have no /dev/lirc0
[6:22] <boakun> im using this ir
[6:22] <boakun> http://imageshack.us/a/img248/2126/gpioir.png
[6:22] <SwK> missing a kernel mod?
[6:22] <boakun> dont believe so since the remote worked 2 days ago
[6:22] <boakun> ive tried openelec and raspbmc
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[6:24] <boakun> $ sudo mode2 -d /dev/lirc0
[6:24] <boakun> mode2: could not open /dev/lirc0
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[6:25] <boakun> im wonderinf if the ir somehow broke itself
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[6:29] <Viper7> my FFT is too noisy :<
[6:29] <Viper7> who knows math? >:D
[6:30] <boakun> 2+2 = 7 right?
[6:30] <clear`> 2+2 = 9
[6:30] <clear`> oh
[6:30] <clear`> 7
[6:30] <clear`> no idea how i got 9 :(
[6:30] <Viper7> i thought i knew math
[6:30] <Viper7> till they told me to implement this is code
[6:30] <Viper7> https://ccrma.stanford.edu/~jos/sasp/img517.png
[6:30] <Viper7> *in
[6:31] <clear`> no thanks
[6:31] <boakun> oh god i hate math
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[6:33] <Viper7> i managed to cut through enough bs to come up with http://pastebin.com/zMk1FmP6
[6:33] <boakun> wtf
[6:33] <boakun> $ sudo mode2 -d /dev/lirc0
[6:33] <boakun> mode2: could not open /dev/lirc0
[6:33] <boakun> mode2: default_init(): Device or resource busy
[6:33] <boakun> why wont you work
[6:33] <Viper7> 44100kHz, 16 bit samples, mono, hanning window, 1024 bins, kissFFT, and some simple plotting
[6:33] <Viper7> but.. so much noise >.<
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[6:34] <Viper-7> if i have a signal at 96db, the entire rest of the graph is pegged around 80 :/
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[6:36] <SwK> that sounds like an ok SNR
[6:36] <boakun> anyone tell me why this is happening?
[6:36] <boakun> http://pastebin.ca/2314082
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[6:37] <SwK> does /dev/lirc0 exist?
[6:37] <Viper-7> SwK: considering its getting nothing but raw signal, not really
[6:37] <SwK> Viper-7: sorry sarcasm doesnt translate on IRC very well ;)
[6:37] <Viper-7> with a plain sine sweep i can see the peak travelling fairly clearly, but only up to maybe 20db above the noise floor
[6:37] <Viper-7> with real music, its just a mess of nonsense
[6:37] <boakun> SwK, it shows up
[6:38] <boakun> $ ls -l /dev/lir*
[6:38] <boakun> crw-rw---T 1 root video 251, 0 Feb 14 21:28 /dev/lirc0
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[6:38] <SwK> lsof have anything interesting to say about it?
[6:39] <SwK> Viper-7: is it your FFT or is it the source audio?
[6:39] <boakun> lsof?
[6:39] <Viper-7> SwK: pretty sure the source is fine
[6:39] <SwK> boakun: its like netstat sorta but ls is well like ls and of stands for open fiiles
[6:39] <Viper-7> i know kissFFT isnt the greatest, but i expected much more..
[6:39] <boakun> well lsof wont run i tried
[6:40] <boakun> command not found
[6:40] <Viper-7> might be worth trying to adapt to fftw
[6:40] <Viper-7> but i ideally want to use this in a commercial project eventually
[6:40] <Viper-7> and im heaps not giving fftw 10 grand for that
[6:40] <SwK> Viper-7: you could snag the FFT we use in freeswitch
[6:40] <SwK> not sure if it will do what you want tho
[6:41] <Viper-7> let me look for results of what other people manage with kissFFT
[6:41] <Viper-7> it has to be something with my code
[6:41] <Viper-7> if this is the best it can manage, its useless
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[7:13] <Coburn> WINNAR
[7:13] <Coburn> How to compile and install cgminer on your Raspberry Pi (http://techblog.sethleedy.name/?p=24276)
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[7:26] <mcoffin> Hello everyone! I'm trying to build a cross-compiler on a debian host system. I've gotten hello world to compile, but it segfaults on the pi. Does anybody have any advice for doing this? I pretty much followed the instructions for building any generic cross compiler on a debian host. I'm running raspbian on the pi, so i built the toolchain for arm-linux-gnueabihf / armhf.
[7:27] <boakun> i got it working SwK
[7:27] <mcoffin> I used the binutils and gcc-4.7 packages from squeeze to build the toolchain
[7:27] <mcoffin> boakun: SwK?
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[7:27] <Viper-7> ok, got it... better, but still not as clean as i`d like
[7:28] <Viper-7> 20Hz to 20kHz sine sweep FFT - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iR0mNuYp_ys
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[7:29] <mcoffin> If anybody has gotten their cross-compiler toolchain built from source, feel free to hit me up. I'm getting tired of waiting for kinect libraries to build over and over again on the pi
[7:29] <des2> mcoffin I believe there are webpages with specific PI cross compiler construction building
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[7:32] <mcoffin> des2: I've found many a place that just directs me to install the pre-built binaries, but I'd prefer to install it from source as a debian package, partly for the experience and partly because I plan on cross-compiling packages, and that will probably make it easier in the future.
[7:33] <mcoffin> If it matters, I've pasted the packages I've gotten from xapt and from building binutils/gcc-4.7 here: http://pastie.org/pastes/6172064/text
[7:34] <tfittsy> can anyone answer how browser performance is on a raspberry pi? I have a project where I need to just display a webpage that draws charts with javascript over and over, wondering if the pi will work for me.
[7:34] <des2> http://www.bootc.net/archives/2012/05/26/how-to-build-a-cross-compiler-for-your-raspberry-pi/
[7:34] <des2> Have you seen that site ?
[7:34] <ParkerR> tfittsy, midori or chromium would be just fine for that
[7:35] <des2> How long does it take to draw charts on a regular computer tfittsy ?
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[7:37] <mcoffin> des2: Yes I have. I'm leaning away from tools like crosstool-ng for the time being because installing with debian's build system I think will ease cross-compiled package development. It shouldn't segfault just because Im using regular gcc and not Linaro right?
[7:37] <tfittsy> des: I dunno, maybe 1 second
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[7:37] <des2> Well the PI is like a 300 MHz pentium so it will be slower
[7:38] <des2> If the chart takes a lot of computing power to draw it will be noticeable
[7:38] <des2> If you are limitied by the Internet bandwidth it won't matter.
[7:38] <tfittsy> data is from a db server on local network.
[7:39] <des2> When you build your cross compile what target are you building for ?
[7:40] <tfittsy> des2: I imagine you have a pi, would you try pulling a page open on it and let me know how it is?
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[7:40] <des2> No I don't have a PI actually.
[7:40] <tfittsy> oh
[7:40] <tfittsy> ok
[7:40] <mcoffin> des2: arm-linux-gnueabihf (armhf)
[7:40] <des2> I'm sure someone here oes though.
[7:41] <des2> Anyone here got a PI that can browse to tfittsy's webpage?
[7:41] <mcoffin> raspbian comes with some kind of browser right? if so, I"ll do it just pop me a url
[7:42] <tfittsy> http://www.highcharts.com/demo/
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[7:42] <Viper-7> i`d test it, but no X11 on my pi heh
[7:42] <piney> lynx :)
[7:43] <Viper-7> i dont think that`ll test javascript performance very well ;)
[7:43] <clear`> web broswer on pi = horrible ;\
[7:43] <tfittsy> mcoffin: did you get that URL? It's just a demo chart but it's basically what I'm going to be drawing.
[7:44] <mcoffin> tfittsy: Looks pretty damn smexy. Takes its sweet ass time to resize with the window but other than that its sick
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[7:45] <tfittsy> but if the window is always going to be full screen and doesn't have to redraw except on the initial load you think it'll be ok?
[7:47] <mcoffin> lemme see again how laggy scrolling is (sorry pi in other room lol gotta run back and forth)
[7:47] <mcoffin> des2: Got any ideas on why it would segfault other than the target (I'm purty damn sure that I got that right).
[7:48] <des2> did you run the debugger on it ?
[7:48] <des2> To see where it died ?
[7:49] <mcoffin> Uhh.. no...
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[7:49] * mcoffin hasn't really dealt with debuggers/breakpoints outside of ide's.
[7:50] <des2> http://mytechrants.wordpress.com/2009/05/22/debugging-a-segmentation-fault-using-gdb/
[7:50] <Gr33n3gg> anyone happen to know if al jazeera has a live feed URL that you can feed into a media player?
[7:50] <des2> all gore might know
[7:52] <des2> can you extract a link here? http://www.aljazeera.com/watch_now/
[7:52] <Gr33n3gg> it's all flash so I didn't bother
[7:52] <Gr33n3gg> but I'll check it out anyway
[7:54] <Gr33n3gg> ah, found a stream I think
[7:54] <Gr33n3gg> http://aj.lsops.net/live/smil:aljazeer_en.smil/playlist.m3u8
[7:54] <Gr33n3gg> yep, works in vlc
[7:55] <Gr33n3gg> I was thinking about getting one of those small TFT back up cameras for my pi, then have news running all day
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[7:55] <mcoffin> des2: gonna be a second, lots of build-deps for gdb that I didn't have
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[8:09] <mcoffin> Great, now I can't get the gmp package to build. wonderful
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[9:09] <Bhaal> Argh... I get me some Pis Model B, from E14 today, I plug in my wifi adapter which is claimed to be stable, and its not working... I have tried lots of different things, I think I am going to have to downgrade the install
[9:09] <Bhaal> The chipset is RTL8192SU
[9:10] <Bhaal> Anyone know if there are known issues with 2013-02-09 wheezy?
[9:14] <Bhaal> I wonder if its something to do with hard/soft float?
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[9:17] <Gr33n3gg> Bhaal: I'm assuming you saw this http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x#r8192s_usb
[9:17] <Gr33n3gg> then you have to get the firmware from the d-link site
[9:18] <Bhaal> Gr33n3gg: Nope, but will look now, I hope your right, really really do :)
[9:18] <Gr33n3gg> http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x#Wheezy
[9:18] <Gr33n3gg> yeah, just do that
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[9:21] <ParkerR> What
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[9:21] <ParkerR> The rtl81* drivers are included in the raspberry kernel
[9:22] <ParkerR> Bhaal, What are you trying to do and what lets you know it isn working?
[9:22] <ParkerR> *isn?t
[9:23] <Bhaal> Can I paste 3 lines of log here?
[9:23] <ParkerR> Sure
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[9:24] <Bhaal> Feb 15 18:01:37 raspberrypi wpa_supplicant[2790]: nl80211: 'nl80211' generic netlink not found
[9:24] <Bhaal> Feb 15 18:01:37 raspberrypi wpa_supplicant[2790]: Failed to initialize driver 'nl80211'
[9:24] <Bhaal> Feb 15 18:01:37 raspberrypi wpa_supplicant[2790]: rfkill: Cannot open RFKILL control device
[9:24] <Bhaal> F
[9:24] <Bhaal> I get that before it tries to do anything... Thats if I use wicd or just manually
[9:25] <Gr33n3gg> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=16849 seems like other people are having the same proble
[9:25] <Bhaal> I can scan and see ssid's etc
[9:25] <Gr33n3gg> m
[9:25] <Bhaal> BUt I cannot connect to my AP, its running in wpa2
[9:26] <Bhaal> umm, not using tkip at all
[9:34] <Bhaal> So assuming its a firmware issue, how do I download the firmware from the dlink site? All I see if drivers for windows..?
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[9:36] <Gr33n3gg> Bhaal: http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x#Wheezy
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[9:39] <Bhaal> ok
[9:39] <Bhaal> Tanks
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[9:50] <Bhaal> Weird... lsusb says its an rtl8192SU ... but it loads the module for r8172u
[9:52] <Bhaal> It works under ubuntu 12.04 on a normal x86 machine...
[9:52] <Bhaal> Just for reference's sake...
[9:52] <Bhaal> Ok...
[9:52] <Bhaal> now to test something else
[9:53] <cbxbiker61> install realtek firmware and manually configure /etc/network/interfaces
[9:54] <cbxbiker61> and /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[9:58] <Bhaal> cbxbiker61: tried that
[9:58] <Bhaal> Thats actually how I did it first
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[10:01] <cbxbiker61> Bhaal, did you reboot? wpa_sup can get messed up and require a reboot
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[10:01] <Bhaal> I have just done exactly what that firmware thing said, and am rebooting now...
[10:02] <Bhaal> cbxbiker61: Is it finicky about hot/cold boots as well?
[10:02] <cbxbiker61> i don't think so
[10:03] <Bhaal> It still did this:
[10:03] <Bhaal> [ 7.747288] r8712u: Loading firmware from "rtlwifi/rtl8712u.bin"
[10:05] <Bhaal> Still giving me these errors:
[10:05] <Bhaal> Feb 15 19:04:24 raspberrypi wpa_supplicant[1770]: wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-TERMINATING - signal 15 received
[10:05] <Bhaal> Feb 15 19:04:43 raspberrypi wpa_supplicant[2384]: nl80211: 'nl80211' generic netlink not found
[10:05] <Bhaal> Feb 15 19:04:43 raspberrypi wpa_supplicant[2384]: Failed to initialize driver 'nl80211'
[10:05] <Bhaal> Feb 15 19:04:43 raspberrypi wpa_supplicant[2384]: rfkill: Cannot open RFKILL control device
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[10:12] <Bhaal> The reason why this is doubly annoying is that I went and bought a second usb wifi dongle.. I started with a tp-link, and couldn't get it to fly, so based on a comparison between why the local computer store had available and what works with the Pi, I bought another one... Which turned out to be the exact same chip.. *sigh*
[10:13] <Datalink> note to self... when doing partition work with a drive in an external enclosure, do not kick the power strip of the enclosure...
[10:13] * ShiftPlusOne has done that too many times
[10:13] <Datalink> this is a drive for work... I nearly had a heart attack.
[10:14] <ShiftPlusOne> Couldn't move the power strip, so I had to rotate the table around to make sure it doesn't happen.
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[10:17] <Datalink> I'm just thankful it was on the FSCK portion of a partition resize.
[10:18] <ShiftPlusOne> Should be a good reminder to have multiple backups though.
[10:19] <Datalink> this is the cloned drive being prepped for an upgrade
[10:20] <Datalink> I ran clonezilla on the drive overnight between days, the drive refused to take due to the fact it wasn't a proper GUID partition table so I got permission to take the new drive home to work on it...
[10:21] <Datalink> main problem is the OS on the drive's on the 2.6 kernel, I don't know for sure if it can handle guid or 3 TB drives, if that's the case, I'll have to perform a kernel upgrade
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[10:27] <Datalink> bonus problem... my external enclosure requires a 1.5 amp supply, I had a 1 amp supply on it, this caused most of the heart attack.
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[10:28] <jelly1> Datalink: why couldnt it handle 3TB
[10:28] <jelly1> anyway off
[10:29] <kevinwatt> Hello everyone, I just saw a strange problem with omxplayer, I was play an http streaming video, by local 3.5mm audio is work normally, but when I use "-o hdmi" the audio sounds "slow"
[10:29] <Datalink> jelly1, it's an appliance from 2008, and was MBR formatted.
[10:29] <jelly1> Datalink: iirc the real problem is partitions
[10:30] <ShiftPlusOne> might need to oil the audio jack
[10:30] <Datalink> "... and was MBR formatted."
[10:30] <kevinwatt> Video command: # omxplayer -o hdmi "http://nextmedia-f.akamaihd.net/nexttvlivebk_1_300@31425"
[10:31] <ShiftPlusOne> oh, the hdmi audio is slow... oiling the audio jack won't help then =(
[10:31] <kevinwatt> ShiftPlusOne: Yeap... XD
[10:32] <ech0s7> there is some problem if i copy a raspbian image of 4GB on a sdcard of 8GB ? (with dd)
[10:32] <nid0> no
[10:33] <double-you> no
[10:33] <ech0s7> because it works only to first boot
[10:33] <ech0s7> if i reboot raspberry, it doesn't start anymore
[10:33] <double-you> must be another problem
[10:33] <mjr> yeah it's not because of the size
[10:34] <Datalink> my Pi's a 16 gig SD, and it was made from a 2 GB image
[10:34] <ech0s7> What could it be? tells me that the file system is mounted only in ro
[10:34] <ech0s7> (read-only)
[10:34] <nid0> how exactly are you copying it from one card to the other?
[10:35] <Datalink> whole dd command you used would be helpful, yeah
[10:35] <mjr> so it boots, just read-only? sounds like it detects some filesystem corruption which you might be able to fsck manually
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[10:37] <ech0s7> after that I copy the image with dd, only works well when you first start
[10:38] <Datalink> I'm still curious how you're writing it to the SD card
[10:38] <ech0s7> raspbian.img
[10:39] <ech0s7> downloaded from raspbian website
[10:39] <Datalink> yeah... what do you enter for the dd command?
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[10:40] <ech0s7> But before copy image on raspberry, I have mounted the image under ubuntu and I've copied over the files
[10:40] <nid0> why would you do that?
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[10:40] <ech0s7> nid0: because i have to copy my home files
[10:42] <ech0s7> and since there are many, with scp it takes too long
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[10:43] <nid0> so you're mounting the image, copying files to the mounted image, then copying that to the pi?
[10:43] <Datalink> ech0s7, are you mounting the .img or the actual SD card that's been prepped?
[10:44] <ech0s7> Datalink, the .img
[10:44] <ech0s7> yes nid0
[10:44] <ech0s7> 1) i have downloaded raspbian.img
[10:44] <nid0> are you then unmounting it and dding the image, or dding the mounted files?
[10:44] <ech0s7> i have unmounted before copy with dd
[10:45] <ech0s7> 2) i have mounted under ubuntu, and copyied all files over
[10:45] <ech0s7> 3) i have unmounted the .img
[10:45] <ech0s7> 4) copy .img on raspberry SDCARD
[10:45] <ech0s7> 5) start raspberry works well
[10:46] <ShiftPlusOne> 6)...
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[10:46] <ShiftPlusOne> 7) ptofit ?
[10:46] <ShiftPlusOne> *profit >.>
[10:46] <ech0s7> 6) rebooting raspberry, it say me that the file-system is mounted in read-only mode
[10:47] <Datalink> I'd copy files onto the SD card, not the image, the image may be getting corruption due to being mounted, I've had mixed luck with loopback image mounting.
[10:47] <ech0s7> Datalink so do you suggest to copy over scp ?
[10:47] <ech0s7> or mount the sd card ?
[10:47] <nid0> hold on
[10:47] <nid0> problem solved
[10:48] <Datalink> mount the SD card
[10:48] <nid0> the partitioning on the sd image is setup with a <2GB filesystem
[10:48] <ech0s7> ok Datalink
[10:48] <ech0s7> ls
[10:48] <nid0> so if you're copying content on it that totals more than a few hundred MB you're gonna overfill the partition
[10:49] <Datalink> I would grab a new copy of rasbian.img and write it to an SD card, boot it, resize it using the raspi-config, then shut down the Pi's Linux, move it to the computer, mount and write the home dir
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[10:49] <nid0> the important crucial step there being to resize it
[10:49] <gordonDrogon> maybe the issue is that ubuntu is mounting the SD card when you don't want it to...
[10:49] <ShiftPlusOne> Don't forget to reboot and allow it to finish resizing
[10:50] <Datalink> use df -h and confirm the pi can see the whole SD card as partitions
[10:50] <Datalink> wait is it df or du?
[10:50] <Datalink> du -h
[10:50] <nid0> df
[10:50] <Datalink> my mistake
[10:50] <Datalink> oh is it df?
[10:50] <nid0> df -h
[10:50] <Datalink> blarg... haha, it's 4 AM and I'm half asleep...
[10:50] <Datalink> nid0 is correct on that.
[10:51] <ech0s7> 4AM ?? :)
[10:51] <ech0s7> In italy is 10.51 AM :P
[10:53] <Datalink> ech0s7, I had a work drive not wanna work with an enclosure recently, so I'm still running on adrenaline.
[10:56] <steve_rox> remind me not to run the update firmware cmd again
[10:56] <steve_rox> it corrupted my sd
[10:56] <steve_rox> then when i went to remove sd the card reader fell apart
[10:56] <steve_rox> joyyyy
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[11:06] <RaTTuS|BIG> I know it's not raspberry but https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90Omh7_I8vI
[11:07] <ShiftPlusOne> was just reading about that, thanks
[11:08] <gordonDrogon> yea, pretty cool. wish I could see a meteor land here.
[11:09] <Datalink> yeah, they knew the astroid was going to be cose, but looks like it was too close, hope no one got hurt
[11:09] <RaTTuS|BIG> df disk free du disk used
[11:09] <RaTTuS|BIG> oops
[11:09] <gordonDrogon> that's a different one.
[11:09] <gordonDrogon> du is slow - as it traverses the filesystem - df shows ued & unused.
[11:09] <RaTTuS|BIG> yeah we have close one tonight
[11:09] <gordonDrogon> visible in Oz AIUI.
[11:10] <ShiftPlusOne> Datalink, over 400 injured according to BBC
[11:10] <Datalink> >.<
[11:11] <ShiftPlusOne> "A meteor crashing in the Urals of central Russia has reportedly injured at least 400 people, as the shockwave blew out windows and rocked buildings."
[11:11] <gordonDrogon> yea, pretty freak occurance though. They should look on the bright side rather than the panic/gloom side. How cool is it to say that you were injured by a meteor!
[11:11] <egrouse> http://gizmodo.com/5984476/meteorite-explodes-over-russia-panic-spreads-updating-live there are a few more vids here
[11:11] <gordonDrogon> I mean - what's the chances - astronomical!
[11:12] <egrouse> shit looks really cool!
[11:12] <gordonDrogon> egrouse, *cough* family friendly channel ...
[11:12] <egrouse> sorry
[11:12] <egrouse> i forget ;)
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[11:13] <gordonDrogon> headlines with the word 'panic' in them really do not help.
[11:13] <gordonDrogon> There is no need for it. Sells papers though.
[11:13] <ShiftPlusOne> Better panic than conspiracy theories.
[11:15] <ShiftPlusOne> Gotta love the dashcams though.
[11:16] <ShiftPlusOne> Thanks to the insurance companies, now we have footage of this from every angle =D
[11:21] <gordonDrogon> that's a particularlly russian trait - dashcams...
[11:21] <ShiftPlusOne> required by law or by insurance companies or something, yeah.
[11:23] <SStrife> I think we get to see that passing-closer-to-earth-than-the-moon asteroid early tomorrow morning... that should be cool
[11:23] <ShiftPlusOne> closer than geostationary satellites even
[11:23] <ShiftPlusOne> Don't get to see it though
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[11:23] <ShiftPlusOne> not with the naked eye anyway
[11:23] <pierut> ;>
[11:23] <SStrife> if it's not overcast, too.
[11:23] <SStrife> which it is right now
[11:24] <SStrife> it's been, er, peeing rain all afternoon
[11:24] <ShiftPlusOne> Got a telescope you're hoping to observe it with or something?
[11:24] <ShiftPlusOne> powerful binoculars might work too they say
[11:24] <SStrife> yeah, not an expensive one tho
[11:24] <SStrife> i have some binoc's too, not too powerful though
[11:25] <ShiftPlusOne> Isn't it going to be like 7pm in UK though?
[11:25] <SStrife> 5AM or thereabouts where I am ;)
[11:25] <ShiftPlusOne> Ah, I thought you were from the UK for some reason.
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[11:26] <ShiftPlusOne> 5AM.... NZ or Australia then?
[11:26] <SStrife> Aus
[11:26] <Dyskette> ShiftPlusOne: it's 10.20am in the uk
[11:27] <pierut> anarchy in the uk.. what good is that to us in utah, america!
[11:27] <ShiftPlusOne> Dyskette, it is now, but we are talking about 2012 DA14.
[11:27] <nid0> he meant the time the comet passes
[11:27] <ShiftPlusOne> asteroid
[11:28] <SStrife> 5:30AM daylight savings time
[11:28] <SStrife> so 4:30AM for me, because our backwards state doesn't have it
[11:28] <ShiftPlusOne> SStrife, I am in melbourne and I think it's going to be around 6am I think. We are in a good part of the world for this =D
[11:29] <SStrife> http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2013/02/13/3688782.htm?WT.mc_id=Innovation_News|AsteroidSizeOfOlympicSwimmingPoolToPassEarth_FBP|abc
[11:29] <ShiftPlusOne> *minus one of the 'I think's to be slightly less redundant
[11:29] <pierut> my name is brody and im from melbourne, fitzroy melbourne
[11:29] <SStrife> yeah, if the weather clears up
[11:29] <ShiftPlusOne> Hi Brody
[11:29] * pierut was singing ;)
[11:29] <ShiftPlusOne> I thought we were going around in a circle AA style
[11:30] <pierut> ShiftPlusOne, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBEKd2ef_Hg
[11:30] <pierut> :>
[11:30] <SStrife> heheh
[11:30] <SStrife> that ABC article says it won't be visible after 5:30 daylight time
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[11:31] <SStrife> is there a better source than that particular article?
[11:31] <ShiftPlusOne> Don' tknow much about it myself
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[11:33] <SStrife> http://www.space.com/19759-asteroid-2012-da14-flyby-observing-tips.html
[11:36] <Datalink> "Duck"
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[11:47] <Bhaal> Alright, seems that I cannot connect to a hidden SSID
[11:47] <Bhaal> Whats with that?
[11:54] <Bhaal> cbxbiker61: Just for reference, ask the person if they are connecting to a hidden SSID, they will need to add scan_ssid=1 to their wpa_supplicant.conf file...
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[12:31] * pierut np; the heavy - big bad wolf
[12:31] <pierut> ;3
[12:31] * ryanteck thinks 11:29AM is very early
[12:31] <pierut> well its 6:31am here ;P
[12:31] <ryanteck> then its doubly early
[12:32] <pierut> :D
[12:32] <pierut> what if i had been up since 10pm the night before
[12:32] <pierut> :p
[12:32] <pierut> granted i havent
[12:32] <pierut> but i could've
[12:32] <pierut> ^^
[12:32] <ryanteck> Not sure
[12:32] <ryanteck> I don't drink at all yet xD
[12:32] <pierut> :P
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[12:34] * ryanteck is inquiring about co-locating a raspberry pi server.
[12:34] <gordonDrogon> ryanteck, where?
[12:34] <pierut> i found a place in austria that does it for free
[12:34] <gordonDrogon> thought that place had stopped...
[12:34] <pierut> it might've
[12:35] <pierut> probably have 30,000 raspis in their data center now :p
[12:35] <ryanteck> A server company near me
[12:35] <ryanteck> Try and make a 1U Rack
[12:35] <ryanteck> then fit 2 pi and an external hdd in
[12:36] <gordonDrogon> ok 0 if they're up for it :)
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[12:56] <Bhaal> So how often should I expect to replace the SD cards for my Pi's?
[12:56] <Bhaal> I am using mine for talking to a weather station at the moment
[12:56] <gordonDrogon> never
[12:57] <Bhaal> a serious answer?
[12:57] <Zhaofeng_Li> Bhaal, when you encounter serious performance drop and too many IO errors, I guess
[12:58] <Bhaal> I just can't remember the average number of writes is all...
[12:58] <Zhaofeng_Li> Bhaal, but normally, there is no need to replace it.
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[12:59] <pierut> you could boot to a usbhdd
[12:59] <pierut> if you're worried
[12:59] <gordonDrogon> I've not worn one out yet. Still using the very first one I bought 9 months ago.
[12:59] <Triffid_Hunter> Bhaal: usually specified at 100k writes to kill a sector, and card has built-in translation tables and stuff like that
[12:59] <gordonDrogon> statistically you'll really not come close to their max. life.
[13:00] <Holden> Bhaal, also if you need a small area where you will do frequent writes you can use a ramdisk
[13:00] <gordonDrogon> I have heard a few folks burn them out though, but they appear to have been doing extreme things with them.
[13:00] <xiambax> Hello :D
[13:00] <Triffid_Hunter> tmpfs is best, use tmpfs and a swapfile. that way it uses ram if it can, and falls back to using the disk if necessary
[13:00] <pierut> xiambax, hi :)
[13:00] <Zhaofeng_Li> Bhaal, just write temporary files to /var/run/shm
[13:01] <Bhaal> I will just make sure I have backups of the relevant data, not a major issue
[13:02] <Triffid_Hunter> Bhaal: I'd expect one to last at least several months if you're recording video all day every day
[13:02] <Triffid_Hunter> Bhaal: if you're just recording wind speed and temperature every 10s, it should last almost forever
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[13:03] <Bhaal> I will make sure it backs up the data all the same. I am not concerned about the cost of the cards...
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[13:05] <Zhaofeng_Li> I have a problem, my pi locks up when I use usb_modeswitch to switch my usb modem...
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[13:08] <Triffid_Hunter> Zhaofeng_Li: yeah, seems the pi has a dodgy usb setup, mine freaked out the other day when I did udevadm --attribute-walk --name /dev/input/event0 (a usb keyboard)
[13:08] <Zhaofeng_Li> Triffid_Hunter, a problem in the kernel?
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[13:09] <Triffid_Hunter> Zhaofeng_Li: not sure, suspect hardware or at least how kernel talks to it
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[13:10] <Zhaofeng_Li> Triffid_Hunter, does the removal of the usb fuses matter?
[13:10] <Zhaofeng_Li> *polyfuses, I mean
[13:11] <Triffid_Hunter> Zhaofeng_Li: only if it's dying due to flaky power
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[13:55] <Bhaal> Hey guys, got a power related question... I have a powered 10 port USB hub which is running off a 2A psu.. Its also feeding power back to the Raspberry Pi ... which is currently powering the Pi, is this a bad thing?
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[13:56] <Bhaal> ie: I have no psu plugged into the Pi's main power connector
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[13:56] * qlex says hi
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[13:56] <qlex> im wondering if Rpi running rasbian can run Java and VLC ?
[13:57] <Zhaofeng_Li> qlex, vlc doesn't support rpi's gpu...
[13:57] <qlex> if yes, can i run a jar application and have it play my h.264 videos with hardware accelleration ?
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[13:57] <qlex> ah, so VLC would be running only using CPU ?
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[13:58] <Zhaofeng_Li> qlex, yes, if I remembered correctly. that makes vlc nearly useless, since software decoding is soooooo slow.
[13:58] <qlex> omxplayer is the only player that would do the job rite ?
[13:58] <Zhaofeng_Li> qlex, yup, I think.
[13:59] <qlex> i have a jar app that uses vlc to play videos, so no go..
[13:59] <qlex> but nonetheless, a jar file can be run on Rpi ?
[13:59] <qlex> i.e. java -jar App.jar ?
[13:59] <Zhaofeng_Li> qlex, jvm... yes
[13:59] <qlex> ok, what about simon's accellerated x development
[14:00] <qlex> would that help if X11 was using GPU and then, VLC on X11 would be accellerated ?
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[14:00] <Triffid_Hunter> Bhaal: I expect the usb fuses on your rpi might not like it much but I doubt there'd be anything beyond that
[14:00] <qlex> i can see that accellerated Android won't gonna happen probably (judging from the discussion) so im back again hoping I can go the Raspbian way...
[14:01] <Zhaofeng_Li> qlex, the problem is the decoding part, vlc doesn't support hardware decoding with rpi's gpu... so no go.
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[14:02] <qlex> Zhaofeng_Li: even if X11 gets hardware accelleration ?
[14:02] <Bhaal> Triffid_Hunter: Well its running now, booted up no problems, running everything I need, I suspect it wouldn't make any difference, it would draw power from either anyway.... Just saves having another vampire plugged into the wall I guess... I am looking on the forums, people are doing it ...
[14:03] <Bhaal> By "doing it" I mean, powering Pis from USB hubs
[14:03] <Bhaal> :)
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[14:04] <Bhaal> Triffid_Hunter: What would the fuses be rated at? Surely higher then 500ma ... You would have to expect people to accidentally pull more then 500ma on occasion...
[14:06] <Triffid_Hunter> Bhaal: first ver had 140mA from memory.. later ones are a bit higher
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[14:08] <Bhaal> Triffid_Hunter: Hmmm, well its running the rpi and a wifi dongle which is plugged directly into the rpi ... maybe I should pull that out now I know that it works properly after my little issue with hidden SSIDs
[14:09] <nid0> v2 pi's have no fuse at all on the usb ports
[14:09] <nid0> so yes you can back power the pi fine
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[14:09] <Bhaal> nid0: Was that the whole point of removing them?
[14:09] <nid0> yes
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[14:15] <felipealmeida> Hello
[14:15] <felipealmeida> Anybody had any success compiling directfb from git with gles to the raspberry?
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[14:15] <felipealmeida> I've used --disable-x11 but the libdirectfb_gles2 depends on lots of x11 libraries for some reason
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[14:18] <felipealmeida> I've used this PKGBUILD http://pastie.org/6175279
[14:18] <Bhaal> nid0: Not quite the explanation provided on the elinux.org site, the fuses were removed as they just did more harm then good...
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[14:20] <nid0> Bhaal: yeah, basically because of the issue with partial backpowering and the fuses only allowing 140mA through
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[14:20] <Tachyon`> if the ports can't supply 500mA the implementation is broken, heh
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[14:28] <felipealmeida> well, I finally found system=egl
[14:28] <felipealmeida> but now it fails with egl trying to open X
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[14:31] <felipealmeida> Well, I'll try without --enable-idirectfbgl-egl
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[15:03] <MickMako> Hullo
[15:03] <MickMako> Can anyone help me with an ssh problem?
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[15:04] <nid0> whats the problem
[15:04] <MickMako> I can ssh to my Pi when connected directly into my router but when using a switch I get connect to host port 22: Connection refused
[15:05] <MickMako> Both my Ubuntu box and Pi are plugged into he switch
[15:05] <MickMako> Both are have ip addresses and can get on the internet ok
[15:06] <Grievre> I'm trying to talk to my raspberry pi over serial using an FTDI chip, but I'm getting what I think are buffer overruns
[15:07] <Grievre> and the Pi doesn't seem to like being told to use a slower bitrate
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[15:13] <Grievre> oh wait, 19200 worked, 38400 just didn't like me
[15:13] <MickMako> ?
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[15:13] <linuxstb> MickMako: What are the IP addresses, network masks and default gateways on your Pi and Ubuntu box?
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[15:14] <MickMako> Ubuntu is Pi is
[15:14] <MickMako> Subnet mask should be
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[15:15] <MickMako> Gateway should be
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[15:15] <linuxstb> "should be" or is?
[15:15] <MickMako> how can I check?
[15:15] <linuxstb> Type /sbin/ifconfig on each
[15:16] <MickMako> route works on Ubuntu
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[15:16] <linuxstb> And for the gateway, use route
[15:17] <aaa801> yay for trying to get 10 year old cpp code to compile on the pi :P
[15:17] <aaa801> ../lib/tosser/btree.cpp:246:13: error: ?cout? was not declared in this scope
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[15:18] <MickMako> ifconfig wont work on Pi (Raspbian) command not found
[15:18] <aaa801> what.
[15:18] <aaa801> ifconfig is bundled as standard
[15:18] <linuxstb> MickMako: "/sbin/ifconfig" ?
[15:19] <aaa801> even the pi user can access it
[15:19] <linuxstb> /sbin isn't in a normal user's path
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[15:20] <MickMako> command not found
[15:20] <aaa801> pi@raspberrypi:~/Uplink/source$ whereis ifconfig
[15:20] <aaa801> ifconfig: /sbin/ifconfig /usr/share/man/man8/ifconfig.8.gz
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[15:21] <MickMako> sorry
[15:21] <MickMako> added the /sbin and it worked
[15:21] <MickMako> I thought I could be in /sbin and it would work
[15:21] <linuxstb> Then you would need ./ifconfig
[15:22] <linuxstb> (the current directory is not in your path either)
[15:22] <aaa801> linux doesnt path the current folder for security
[15:22] <t0k3n> hello, i am using raspberry pi (B model), with raspbmc without codecs. Do i need the codecs for a h264 encoded video to be decoded using hw ? i am getting 9fps only and terrible video quality -even for smaller vids
[15:22] <linuxstb> Not for h264, no. If you're only getting 9fps, it's unlikely to be h264, or you're not using omxplayer or xbmc
[15:23] <MickMako> Sorry
[15:23] <t0k3n> i am using xbmc frodo stable
[15:23] <MickMako> but all looks ok
[15:23] <MickMako> same gateway
[15:23] <MickMako> correct ip's
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[15:23] <MickMako> remember I said this works ok when in router
[15:24] <MickMako> problem only occurs when switch is added
[15:24] <nemo> linuxstb: hrm. are you sure? from experience, hardware decoding of h264 is kinda sensitive
[15:24] <nemo> linuxstb: like I'd encode for iphone and just get errors unless I used particular settings
[15:24] <nemo> I haven't tried w/ rpi yet tho
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[15:25] <MickMako> The ubuntu box must see it to get connection refused
[15:26] <MickMako> a random ip says no route to host instead
[15:26] <aaa801> what package is GL/gl.h in
[15:28] <chithead> depends on your distro
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[15:28] <aaa801> raspbian
[15:28] <MickMako> ping works
[15:29] <aaa801> is it a dumswitch?
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[15:30] <MickMako> mako@Desktop:~$ nmap
[15:30] <MickMako> Starting Nmap 5.21 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2013-02-15 14:29 GMT
[15:30] <MickMako> Nmap scan report for
[15:30] <MickMako> Host is up (0.00056s latency).
[15:30] <MickMako> Not shown: 999 closed ports
[15:30] <MickMako> PORT STATE SERVICE
[15:30] <MickMako> 8080/tcp open http-proxy
[15:30] <aaa801> PASTEBIN
[15:30] <MickMako> should that show ssh
[15:30] <MickMako> http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0029M7TJC/ref=asc_df_B0029M7TJC11952672?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&tag=hydra0b-21&linkCode=asn&creative=22206&creativeASIN=B0029M7TJC&hvpos=1o1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16674207692133272262&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=
[15:30] <Zhaofeng_Li> MickMako, if you pi has sshd enabled, it should.
[15:32] <MickMako> Now I am avoiding ths switch: http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0029M7TJC/ref=asc_df_B0029M7TJC11952672?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&tag=hydra0b-21&linkCode=asn&creative=22206&creativeASIN=B0029M7TJC&hvpos=1o1&hvexid=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=16674207692133272262&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=
[15:32] <MickMako> Damn
[15:32] <MickMako> Starting Nmap 5.21 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2013-02-15 14:31 GMT
[15:32] <MickMako> Nmap scan report for
[15:32] <MickMako> Host is up (0.0062s latency).
[15:32] <MickMako> Not shown: 998 closed ports
[15:32] <MickMako> PORT STATE SERVICE
[15:32] <MickMako> 22/tcp open ssh
[15:32] <MickMako> 80/tcp open http
[15:32] <aaa801> ffs use paste bin
[15:32] <aaa801> 2nd time..
[15:32] <MickMako> Sorry
[15:32] <MickMako> So
[15:32] <aaa801> Whats the problem anywho?
[15:32] <Grievre> Hmm
[15:32] <Zhaofeng_Li> MickMako, what do you want to do?
[15:33] <MickMako> When I go via the switch I get port 8080 only
[15:33] <aaa801> pi not seeing the interwebs through your switch?
[15:33] <MickMako> I want to ssh to my Pi
[15:33] <MickMako> pi can ping google ok
[15:33] <aaa801> well with the price of that switch its most likly a dumswitch sharing the ip between whatevers connected to it
[15:33] <aaa801> give the pi and devices connected to it a static ip
[15:33] <aaa801> then see if it works
[15:33] <MickMako> pi has static ip
[15:34] <aaa801> and your computer has a static ip that differs yes?
[15:34] <MickMako> yes
[15:34] <aaa801> mhm, ive always had issues with the pi and those cheap switchs
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[15:34] <aaa801> Why arnt you using a router ?
[15:34] <Zhaofeng_Li> some d-link routers are cheap, btw
[15:34] <MickMako> My router is only 2 port so I have stuck a switch in
[15:35] <aaa801> a 2 port router =/. you sure that isnt a modem
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[15:36] <MickMako> Its a router
[15:36] <nemo> heh
[15:37] <nemo> MickMako: my router is also 2 port, but that's 'cause it's a low power linux box :)
[15:37] <nemo> one port for external network, one for internal, hooked up to switch
[15:37] <aaa801> error: invalid conversion from ?const char*? to ?char*? i hate cpp ._.
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[15:37] <MickMako> 8080/tcp open http-proxy is through the switch, without it I get 80/tcp
[15:38] <nemo> aaa801: trying to pass a "string" to a function that's intended to manipulate strings? :)
[15:38] <nemo> aaa801: or one where lazy person didn't define function well?
[15:38] <aaa801> char *firstcr = strchr ( thestring, '\n' );
[15:38] <aaa801> trying to compile a 10 year old game on the pi
[15:38] <aaa801> :p
[15:38] <aaa801> old cpp standards q_q
[15:38] <nemo> ??
[15:39] <nemo> huh. that should be from char * to const char *
[15:39] <nemo> not the other way around
[15:39] <nemo> strchr takes const
[15:39] <nemo> and good thing too
[15:39] <aaa801> lemme post up the function
[15:39] <aaa801> nemo http://pastebin.com/aHvrrari
[15:39] <aaa801> what needs to be changed?
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[15:42] <nemo> heh. apart from "new" this is C, not C++ :)
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[15:43] <aaa801> its cpp
[15:43] <aaa801> i changed it to const char *firstcr
[15:43] <aaa801> and now i get
[15:43] <aaa801> Compiling app/miscutils.cpp
[15:43] <aaa801> /tmp/ccr7ZnsJ.s: Assembler messages:
[15:43] <aaa801> /tmp/ccr7ZnsJ.s:296: Error: bad instruction `movl %ebp,r4'
[15:43] <nemo> lol
[15:43] <aaa801> how is that even..
[15:44] <aaa801> help me nemooo
[15:44] <nemo> aaa801: are you compiling on an x86 machine or somethign?
[15:44] <aaa801> no
[15:44] <aaa801> on arm
[15:44] <aaa801> on the pi
[15:44] <nemo> movl is not an ARM instruction
[15:44] <nemo> aaa801: what's your params to g++ ?
[15:44] <aaa801> where the frek is it picking that up from then =/
[15:44] <aaa801> hold on
[15:45] <aaa801> http://pastebin.com/frE46QxN
[15:46] <nemo> you know. pasting the actual call rather than making people read your makefile, would be a bit kinder
[15:47] <aaa801> what do i pass to make to make it print out the line?
[15:47] <nemo> aaa801: my guess is the code is linking in a precompiled binary
[15:47] <nemo> aaa801: one of these dirs in the makeful probably contains a .a
[15:47] <nemo> check?
[15:47] <aaa801> kk
[15:47] <nemo> $(GLTT_DIR)/lib/libgltt.a ?
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[15:48] <nemo> 811. CONTRIB_DIR:= $(shell pwd)/../contrib
[15:48] <nemo> 14. GLTT_DIR = $(CONTRIB_DIR)/install
[15:48] <nemo> looks like it to me
[15:48] <nemo> solution would be to find source for lib, compile it
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[15:49] <aaa801> i cant see any libraries in there
[15:49] <aaa801> none that are compiled atleast
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[15:49] <nemo> ummm
[15:49] <nemo> aaa801: find -name libgltt.a
[15:50] <aaa801> nothing
[15:50] <nemo> also
[15:50] <nemo> 39. STATIC_SDLLIBS = $(CONTRIB_DIR)/install/lib/libSDL_mixer.a \
[15:50] <nemo> 40. $(CONTRIB_DIR)/install/lib/libSDL.a \
[15:51] <aaa801> nothing either
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[15:52] <aaa801> well this is odd =/
[15:52] <nemo> aaa801: ok. well. check the makefiles for those obviously included libs then
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[15:52] <nemo> aaa801: one of them might be targetting x86
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[15:52] <aaa801> miscutils only included GL
[15:53] <nemo> aaa801: so anyway. once you get this compiled. are you planning to fix GL?
[15:53] <aaa801> well its a 2d game, so it shouldnt be too hard to port it over
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[15:53] <nemo> aaa801: just wondering 'cause it'd be nice to get our game running on rpi, and wondering if people have nice ways to do that now
[15:53] <nemo> aaa801: that doesn't mean much ;)
[15:53] <aaa801> indeed
[15:53] <nemo> we are technically 2d too. it is clearly using gl
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[15:53] <nemo> well. it runs, but, software emulation, so <10fps
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[15:55] <Bhaal> nid0: re: backpowering and polyfuses .. whichever the explanation, thanks for the heads up anyway it is appreciated. I am not worried about it harming the rpi now...
[15:55] <aaa801> mhm il compile all of the contrib and see if that does anything ,but i cant see any prebuilts
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[15:58] <CymercX> rikkib
[15:58] <CymercX> torikun
[15:58] <Zhaofeng_Li> CymercX, ?!
[15:59] <nemo> aaa801: well. look for gcc flags on those then.
[15:59] <CymercX> ni hao ma ?
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[15:59] <nemo> aaa801: something is clearly generating non-arm code
[15:59] * Zhaofeng_Li says hi
[15:59] <CymercX> ;P
[15:59] <aaa801> OpenGL (libraries) not found. Please check your installation!
[15:59] <aaa801> when compiling gltt =/
[16:00] <nemo> aaa801: probably meant to be called by master makefile that sets path
[16:00] <aaa801> http://www.introversion.co.uk/uplink/developer/getting%20started%20linux.html
[16:00] <aaa801> followingthose
[16:00] <Zhaofeng_Li> aaa801, rpi's gpu only supports OpenGL ES, if I remembered correctly.
[16:00] <aaa801> ye ik, should stil have the libs for software mode tho
[16:00] <CymercX> http://www.introversion.co.uk/uplink/developer/getting%20started%20linux.html
[16:00] <CymercX> http://www.introversion.co.uk/uplink/developer/getting%20started%20linux.html
[16:00] <aaa801> CymercX, ?
[16:01] <Zhaofeng_Li> aaa801, tried installing mesa?
[16:02] <CymercX> whats uplink?
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[16:02] <aaa801> a game
[16:02] <CymercX> i see
[16:02] <CymercX> i dont play much game
[16:02] <aaa801> Zhaofeng_Li, what one of it
[16:02] <CymercX> only donkey kong :)
[16:02] <CymercX> thats all i play
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[16:04] <Zhaofeng_Li> aaa801, libgl1-mesa-dri and libgl1-mesa-glx ?
[16:04] <Zhaofeng_Li> oops, they are runtime libs...
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[16:05] <aaa801> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[16:05] <aaa801> libgl1-mesa-glx : Conflicts: libgl1
[16:05] <aaa801> libgl1-mesa-swx11 : Conflicts: libgl1
[16:05] <Zhaofeng_Li> libglu1-mesa-dev ?
[16:06] <aaa801> already latest
[16:06] <Zhaofeng_Li> aaa801, have you got all the -dev packages for compiling?
[16:07] <aaa801> its based of a contrib layout
[16:07] <aaa801> libgl1-mesa-swrast-dev
[16:07] <aaa801> gona try that
[16:09] <aaa801> dammit
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[16:11] <Zhaofeng_Li> aaa801, still getting errors?
[16:11] <aaa801> ye im checking the configure file for it
[16:11] <aaa801> aparantly the lib folder needs to be defiend manualy
[16:11] <aaa801> =/
[16:11] <aaa801> o wait libglu1-mesa-dev
[16:11] <aaa801> ffs xchat is crap for pasting in
[16:12] <aaa801> ac_gl_libraries=$gl_libdir GL_LIBNAME=mesa
[16:12] <aaa801> its looking for libMesaGL.so and libMesaGL.a
[16:16] <Hodapp> I want to mess with GLSL a bit on the Pi when I get a chance
[16:16] <Hodapp> sure, I have a GTX 660 in my desktop that's around 40-80 times faster, but this is cooler somehow!
[16:16] <Zhaofeng_Li> aaa801, libglapi-mesa ?
[16:17] <aaa801> already installed
[16:18] <aaa801> aha
[16:18] <aaa801> aparantly it was renamed to libGL.so
[16:18] <Zhaofeng_Li> aaa801, so change the configure file!
[16:18] <aaa801> usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libGL.so
[16:19] <aaa801> ok tryings
[16:20] <aaa801> dammit
[16:20] <aaa801> yuno
[16:20] <Zhaofeng_Li> aaa801, what error?
[16:20] <aaa801> same, i think i have to add that folder to the configure too
[16:21] <Zhaofeng_Li> yup
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[16:22] <hnsr> is there any way to connect a vga display to an rpi?
[16:22] <aaa801> wooo
[16:22] <aaa801> ye get a hdmi to vga active converter
[16:22] <IT_Sean> ^ one of those 'll be expensive
[16:22] <VetteWork> monoprice has em cheep
[16:22] <Zhaofeng_Li> hnsr, use a hdmi to vga adapter (expensive) or a composite to vga adapter (low-res).
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[16:23] <aaa801> ok it hates me http://pastebin.com/aap3sX9K
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[16:23] <Hodapp> I heard that a $25 one could do HDMI to VGA pretty well[citation needed]
[16:23] <hnsr> ah ok thanks
[16:24] <hnsr> I guess I will figure out some other way to connect it :p
[16:24] <Hodapp> but if you need good VGA, I'd say to get a Mele A1000 or a Hackberry A10 perhaps
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[16:24] <hnsr> are those displays?
[16:24] <Hodapp> no, boards
[16:24] <mjr> those are other small arm computers
[16:24] <Hodapp> ARM-based
[16:24] <hnsr> oh
[16:24] <Hodapp> but they have VGA onboar
[16:24] <Hodapp> ...d
[16:24] <hnsr> yeah I just wanted to see if I could use an old vga display for my rpi
[16:25] <chithead> mele a2000 is preferable to the a1000
[16:25] <hnsr> need to test a broken(ish) rpi :(
[16:25] <Hodapp> chithead: oh, didn't realize they had an A2000
[16:25] <Zhaofeng_Li> aaa801, could paste it on paste.ubuntu.com ? I can't get to pastebin.net in china.
[16:25] <IT_Sean> not directly. You'd need an adapter. And raspi-able VGA adapters will either be expensive, or low res.
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[16:25] <Hodapp> chithead: used either?
[16:25] <hnsr> my brother killed his by having a cable wrap around the inserted SD-card, and when he accidently pulled it, it broke some plastic pieces off of the sd-card holder frame thingy
[16:25] <chithead> I have seen one a1000 in action, and some of its deficiencies are reportedly fixed in the a2000
[16:26] <Hodapp> you still can't really get any GPU acceleration in Linux, can you?
[16:26] <VetteWork> Looks like monoprice one isnt there anymore.. item # 8126, was $38
[16:26] <aaa801> Zhaofeng_Li, that was just a thing with outdated makefile.am layout
[16:26] <Hodapp> only Android
[16:26] <aaa801> += without = etc
[16:26] * aaa801 stares at Hodapp
[16:26] <aaa801> whered you get that infio
[16:26] <aaa801> info*
[16:27] <Hodapp> aaa801: on the Mali400 GPU, not the Broadcom on the RasPi
[16:27] <aaa801> aha
[16:27] <aaa801> this is going to take some time http://i.imgur.com/Z5JNlTg.png
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[16:28] <Zhaofeng_Li> aaa801, cross-compiling it, perhaps?
[16:28] <Zhaofeng_Li> on a pc?
[16:28] <chithead> http://limadriver.org/ lists supported hardware
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[16:28] <aaa801> cross compiling is a pain in the ass across arch types
[16:28] <Grievre> dang
[16:28] <aaa801> + this is tied into system libraries
[16:28] <Grievre> I think I might have fucked up my pi
[16:29] <aaa801> how ?
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[16:30] <aaa801> Grievre, how?
[16:30] <Grievre> I think it was either putting 5V on the i2c pins by accident or the ghetto soldering job I did trying to access the second i2c bus
[16:30] <Zhaofeng_Li> Grievre, keep this chan family-friendly, btw~
[16:30] <aaa801> ouch
[16:30] <aaa801> that would do it
[16:30] <Grievre> IT_Sean: Sorry, I forgot. You can just say something and that has the same effect :)
[16:30] <Zhaofeng_Li> Grievre, ...
[16:30] <Grievre> Zhaofeng_Li: ?
[16:31] <Grievre> Zhaofeng_Li: what?
[16:31] <aaa801> i thought it was rarther obvious what the meaning was..
[16:31] <Zhaofeng_Li> Grievre, did that fried the cpu?
[16:31] <Zhaofeng_Li> *fry
[16:31] <IT_Sean> you probably fried it, dude.
[16:31] <Grievre> Zhaofeng_Li: I dunno
[16:31] <aaa801> well does it green / red light..
[16:31] <Grievre> It still boots it just behaves somewhat strangely in very specific circumstances
[16:32] <aaa801> define
[16:32] <Grievre> for example sometimes it hangs on boot right after it loads the network driver
[16:32] <aaa801> power load?
[16:32] <Zhaofeng_Li> anyway, I'm leaving now, bye
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[16:32] <Grievre> aaa801: it only happens on one of the two pis I have
[16:32] <Grievre> I'm not asking you to debug this for me by the way
[16:32] <Grievre> so attempting to do so is probably a waste of both our time
[16:35] <CymercX> it sean
[16:35] <CymercX> IT Sean
[16:35] <CymercX> did you see rikkib
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[16:37] <FR^2> openelec , kernel 3.6.11, dmesg: "mmc0: missed completion of cmd 18 DMA (512/512 [1]/[1]) - ignoring it", "mmc0: DMA IRQ 6 ignored - results were reset" - Should I be worried?
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[16:43] <aaa801> FR^2, only if it starts happening alot
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[16:48] <FR^2> aaa801: Hmm. Not _that_ often, yet :) Okay, thanks for the comforting :)
[16:49] <FR^2> Although dmesg is filled with those two lines in the seconds 13 to 18 ;)
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[17:04] <Grievre> So does anyone have any clue how I would acquire the cable that goes into the camera header?
[17:05] <IT_Sean> Besides buying the camera module?
[17:05] <IT_Sean> :p
[17:05] <Grievre> no one seems to know exactly what kind of cable goes in there
[17:05] <Grievre> IT_Sean: I don't want to waste a camera module just for the cable
[17:05] <IT_Sean> I dunno what the pin count / width is, but, i would imagine it's available somewhere.
[17:05] <Grievre> I would imagine that too! But I need to know what cable it is before I can buy it
[17:05] <IT_Sean> I mean... it's a standard-ish sort of connector, so...
[17:05] <IT_Sean> I wish i could be helpful, but... ::shrug::
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[17:08] <Grievre> it's kind of ridiculous how little information there is about this
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[17:08] <Grievre> the part number they give, when you google it, only brings up sites about the raspberry pi
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[17:08] <Grievre> it's a cable for pete's sake, you think they would link you right to a checkout page for it!
[17:09] <IT_Sean> cables is srus bznss
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[17:17] <aaa801> twitch.. twitch.. Error: bad instruction `movl %ebp,r4'
[17:17] <Grievre> aaa801: ?
[17:18] <aaa801> trying to compile a game on the pi, somethings gening x86 code and i cant find it
[17:18] <aaa801> >_<
[17:20] <aaa801> g++ -O2 -I. -I/usr/X11R6/include/ -I../lib/eclipse/ -I../lib/tosser/ -I../lib/soundgarden/ -I../lib/vanbakel/ -I../lib/gucci/ -I../lib/bungle -I../lib/redshirt/ -I../lib/slasher -I/home/pi/Uplink/source/../contrib/tcp4u.330/Include -I/home/pi/Uplink/source/../contrib/install -I/home/pi/Uplink/source/../contrib/irclib.linux -I/home/pi/Uplink/source/../contrib/irclib.linux/linux -w -D_REENTRANT -c app/miscutils.cpp -o obj/linux/app/miscu
[17:20] <aaa801> tils.o
[17:20] <aaa801> bad code bad
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[17:29] <aaa801> ok so this is the bar minimun to get the dam thing to compile
[17:29] <aaa801> g++ -I../lib/redshirt -I../lib/tosser -I../lib/gucci -I. app/miscutils.cpp
[17:29] <aaa801> and i get the bad instruction ..
[17:31] <Grievre> lol tosser
[17:31] <aaa801> ikr
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[17:33] <felipealmeida> Hello
[17:34] <felipealmeida> I'm having trouble making applications find EGL libraries in /opt/vc/lib before libraries in /usr/lib
[17:34] <aaa801> just make /opt/vc/lib earlier in the path
[17:34] <felipealmeida> is there a non-intrusive solution for that? I need it to run just one application I'm developing that uses directfb
[17:34] <felipealmeida> which path?
[17:34] <aaa801> library path
[17:35] <felipealmeida> there's only that in the library path, /usr/lib is found through ld.conf
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[17:36] <felipealmeida> by library path I mean LD_LIBRARY_PATH
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[17:43] <aaa801> well this is the asm code it lobs out for miscutils http://pastebin.com/M1daD0Lq
[17:43] <aaa801> anyone spot where this x86 operaiton is coming from =/
[17:45] <aaa801> @ 320 "app/miscutils.cpp" 1
[17:45] <aaa801> movl %ebp, r4;
[17:46] <aaa801> son of a
[17:46] <aaa801> GOD DAM INLINED ARM
[17:47] <aaa801> asm*
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[17:49] <aaa801> asm ( "movl %%ebp, %0;" :"=r"(framePtr) );
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[17:49] <aaa801> anyone wanna convert that to armv6
[17:50] <mgottschlag> don't try to convert the inline assembly, that won't work
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[17:51] <mgottschlag> you'll have to rewrite that code, there is no 1:1 translation
[17:51] <mgottschlag> but actually looking at that code I think that it is impossible to rewrite that for arm
[17:52] <mgottschlag> you would have to use libgcc for stack traces as ARM doesn't have the concept of a "base pointer"
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[17:52] <aaa801> gah
[17:52] <mgottschlag> (actually, the code should break with modern C compilers with optimization turned on as well)
[17:52] <aaa801> my experiance isnt good enouth for me to do that =/
[17:52] <mgottschlag> comment it out, throw an exception, and forget it
[17:52] <mgottschlag> it is only error handling code anyways
[17:52] <aaa801> ye
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[17:53] <mgottschlag> but if you are finding problems like this, chances are good that the code won't behave well on arm anyways
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[17:57] <aaa801> thats the only bit of asm
[17:57] <aaa801> in the whole codebase
[17:57] <aaa801> thankgod..
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[18:10] <evilC> Hi all, my boss just gave me an RP to play with, but am having problems with libreoffice command-line, anyone able to help?
[18:11] <evilC> specifically, I get a segfault when executing libreoffice --help
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[18:15] <Grievre> evilC: how did you install libreoffice?
[18:15] <evilC> using synaptic
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[18:15] <evilC> he first installed only impress, but I then installed the main libreoffice after that
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[18:16] <evilC> didn't fix it though :(
[18:17] <evilC> interestingly, on this page: https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Starting_the_Software_With_Parameters it lists a command-line option of --show for impress, but when I try to use this, it says "Unknown option --show"
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[18:20] <evilC> Any solution considered - as long as I can play a PPT or ODP on the screen I am happy
[18:20] <tdy> not sure which distro you're using, but considering it has synaptic, i assume it uses older repos
[18:20] <tdy> i can see from the wiki's history that the --show option used to be -show
[18:21] <evilC> yeah, I am not sure myself, he set up the OS
[18:21] <tdy> back in 2011
[18:21] <evilC> recommend starting again?
[18:21] <evilC> LOL, -show worked !
[18:21] <tdy> the debian based stuff will always be "old"
[18:21] <tdy> depending on perspective
[18:21] <evilC> thanks a lot
[18:22] <evilC> but it may still be worth getting an up to date distro I suppose
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[18:35] <shirish> hi all, does anybody know/remember some place where u have raspberry pi photo with all the sockets and everything labelled properly so people know ?
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[18:37] <IT_Sean> there is such a photo in the FAQ section at raspberrypi.org
[18:38] <evilC> OK then, next question... what is the best way to detect if the slideshow is already running? if I do ps -ef | grep soffice.bin, I get two returns - the actual process and the grep process. How do I filter out the grep process?
[18:38] <shirish> IT_Sean: I knew I had seen it somewhere but forgotten where.
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[18:39] <evilC> nm, got it
[18:39] <shirish> IT_Sean: this isn't it :) http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/RaspiModelB.png
[18:40] <evilC> ps -ef | grep -v grep | grep soffice.bin
[18:40] <shirish> IT_Sean: because this doesn't show the gpio and other things, there is one which goes more in depth.
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[18:40] <shirish> IT_Sean: as in showing the GPIO as well as the processor and other things.
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[18:41] <IT_Sean> dunno what to tell you then
[18:41] <IT_Sean> search through the forums
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[18:48] <aaa801> dammit i will get this evil game compiled xD
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[19:00] <Torikun> what game
[19:00] <shirish> aaa801: yeah, what game ?
[19:00] <aaa801> uplink
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[19:03] <aaa801> Torikun, shirish ^^
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[19:03] <Torikun> oh
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[19:05] <aaa801> it uses some ancient gltt library that doesnt compile on the pi, it looks like they were adding support for ftgl but stoped half way
[19:05] <aaa801> so i gota fix that up
[19:05] <aaa801> xD
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[19:09] <Torikun> i cant even find that game on google
[19:09] <aaa801> what one Torikun ?
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[19:10] <Torikun> shirish
[19:10] <aaa801> thats the other guy who asked for the name..
[19:10] <aaa801> the game is uplink
[19:10] <Torikun> oh lmfao
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[19:11] <Torikun> wow a hacker game
[19:11] <aaa801> aye
[19:12] <Torikun> its not free?
[19:12] <aaa801> the src is avilable
[19:12] <aaa801> but your suposed to buy the "dev cd"
[19:12] <Torikun> lol
[19:12] <aaa801> which hasnt been on sale in ages
[19:13] <aaa801> so just buy uplink on steam and obtain the dev stuff :P
[19:13] <chupacabra> Meteor injures more than 980 in Russian city
[19:13] <Torikun> do you have to?
[19:13] <Torikun> lol
[19:14] <aaa801> its only ?1
[19:14] <aaa801> -.-
[19:14] <Torikun> i am compiling it now
[19:14] <aaa801> on ?
[19:14] <Torikun> archlinux
[19:15] <aaa801> on desktop or rpi
[19:15] <Torikun> pi
[19:15] <Torikun> ==> ERROR: uplink.zip was not found in the build directory and is not a URL.
[19:15] <Torikun> ==> ERROR: Makepkg was unable to build uplink.
[19:15] <Torikun> =(
[19:15] <aaa801> hehe
[19:15] <aaa801> want a magnet?
[19:15] <Torikun> shouldn't it compile anyway lol
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[19:19] <aaa801> requires alot of tinkering
[19:19] <aaa801> this code is like 10 years old
[19:19] <Torikun> =(
[19:19] <aaa801> easy tinkering tho
[19:19] <aaa801> ;)
[19:19] <aaa801> woo finaly got gltt to compile
[19:20] <aaa801> well
[19:20] <aaa801> almost..
[19:20] <aaa801> http://i.imgur.com/DQ32acT.png
[19:20] <aaa801> do i just have to make that method public =/ ?
[19:21] <Torikun> what distro
[19:21] <aaa801> raspbian
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[19:24] <aaa801> GLTTGlyphPolygonizerHandler.h:41:3: error: 'GLTTGlyphPolygonizer' does not name a type
[19:24] <aaa801> wtf
[19:25] <shirish> Torikun: thanx.
[19:27] <aaa801> guesswork ALL the code
[19:27] <aaa801> just added class GLTTGlyphPolygonizer; where it was whinging
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[19:28] <flowsnake> -I. -I. -I. -I.
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[19:29] <aaa801> ..?
[19:30] <flowsnake> what is -I. -I. -I. -I.
[19:30] <aaa801> alot of including the local folder :P
[19:31] <Draylor> making really sure
[19:31] <aaa801> aye
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[19:34] <aaa801> Makefile.am:89: use `install-data-hook' or `install-exec-hook', not `install-hook'
[19:34] <aaa801> ._.
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[19:39] <DeliriumTremens> i did it
[19:39] <DeliriumTremens> guys
[19:39] <DeliriumTremens> I DID IT
[19:39] <aaa801> wut?
[19:40] * aaa801 pokes DeliriumTremens
[19:40] <DeliriumTremens> I got a BBS running on the pi that emulates DOS and successfully runs Door games
[19:40] <aaa801> aha nice
[19:40] <DeliriumTremens> i know, most probably don't care
[19:40] <DeliriumTremens> but it was a PITA
[19:40] <aaa801> ive been trying to get uplink running on the dam thing for a few hours
[19:40] <aaa801> ._.
[19:40] <DeliriumTremens> i've been working on this for about a week
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[19:44] <ParkerR> DeliriumTremens, What?? the advantage over dosbox?
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[19:44] <Torikun> oh you finally got it DeliriumTremens congrats
[19:44] <DeliriumTremens> ParkerR: dosbox only runs graphically
[19:44] <DeliriumTremens> connecting a graphical representation of DOS to the BBS telnet session would be a lot of work for me AND for anyone who wanted to use the BBS
[19:45] <ParkerR> Ok I guess next question. What a BBS?
[19:45] * aaa801 yells at ParkerR to get off the lawn
[19:45] <Flexnard> bulliten board system what we used before the internet :P
[19:45] <Torikun> think of it is a old forum and for text games
[19:45] <xiambax> http://www.ustream.tv/nasajpl2 <----- Going down
[19:46] <aaa801> soo close to getting this working i hope lol
[19:46] <DeliriumTremens> yeah, i threw around the idea of a BBS and had some people interested in playing some MUDS
[19:46] <DeliriumTremens> so i went for it
[19:46] <DeliriumTremens> and wanted to do it on the pi
[19:46] <aaa801> Linking... libtool: you must specify a MODE
[19:46] <aaa801> wut
[19:46] * Flexnard laughs
[19:46] <Flexnard> did you install LORD?
[19:46] <DeliriumTremens> i was almost majorly let down when everyone started telling me that there was no way to emulate DOS in the CLI on raspberry pi
[19:46] <DeliriumTremens> Flexnard: yes
[19:46] <Flexnard> lol
[19:47] <DeliriumTremens> thanks to the work of Dietmar on the forums, i was able to do just that
[19:47] <DeliriumTremens> without the work he put into optimizing qemu for the pi, i wouldn't have been able to do it
[19:47] <Flexnard> nice
[19:47] <xiambax> Flexnard: apt-get install jesus?
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[19:48] <aaa801> help with libtool anyone..
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[19:48] <Flexnard> lol xiambax
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[19:49] <aaa801> DeliriumTremens, lend a hand :D http://pastebin.com/PApiiquc
[19:49] <aaa801> libtool is saying i need to specify a mode
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[19:50] <DeliriumTremens> aaa801: gonna have to tell you, i have no idea what i'm looking at
[19:51] <aaa801> 3:
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[19:53] <DeliriumTremens> sorry :\
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[20:17] <lunchdump> Y
[20:18] <aaa801> O_o
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[20:59] <aaa801> libtool: link: unsupported hardcode properties
[20:59] <aaa801> rage
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[21:11] <brotoss> Quick question, is 800mA sufficient to power the Pi? Or do I need 1.2A? specifically looking at buying this http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005LFXBJG/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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[21:20] <timmmaaaayyy> i power my pi off an htc .8A charger so you should be just fine brotoss. of course if you add mucho USB devices it might stop working....
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[21:21] <brotoss> Gotcha, thanks. I plan on just plugging a self-powered external hard drive. I actually already ordered it this morning and am wondering if I should cancel it on amazon and get a 1.2A instead
[21:22] <IT_Sean> you should be alright
[21:22] <timmmaaaayyy> yea i wouldn't sweat it
[21:22] <IT_Sean> I ran my Pi the first time, with an externally powered USB HDD off a 700ma charger. My USB keyboard didn't work, but the harddrive did.
[21:22] <brotoss> Great
[21:22] <IT_Sean> (i've since switched to a 2A iPad chanrger)
[21:23] <brotoss> I'm gonna use it for XBMC, havent decided on the distro yet
[21:23] <IT_Sean> I can also confirm that a Google Nexus 4 charger works.
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[21:23] <IT_Sean> brotoss: i'm using OpenELEC
[21:23] <IT_Sean> 's nice
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[21:23] <brotoss> Does watching 1080p x264 have any power implications?
[21:24] <brotoss> I think i might as well just cancel this one and get the 1.2A for $2 more
[21:24] <aaa801> BY GEORGE
[21:24] <aaa801> http://i.imgur.com/0J1pe67.png
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[21:40] <aaa801> ok now to copy over the data files
[21:40] <aaa801> :D
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[21:55] <diamonds> hey. I was in here yesterday with "pi won't read card" issues
[21:55] <diamonds> I think it's because class 10 card
[21:55] <diamonds> I was working off here: http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards
[21:55] <diamonds> bought model TS16GSDHC10E
[21:55] <diamonds> from link: "the firmware / bootloader on early Raspberry Pi boards had a problem with Class 10 high speed cards. This has been fixed." <<< Is this accurate?
[21:57] <tonsit> i mean, i'd look for a source on raspberrypi. instead, but it sounds good
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[21:58] <diamonds> tonsit: is there such a list on a raspberrypi site (that you know of)?
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[21:59] <tonsit> no, i was searching for one, elinux is the site that keeps popping up for me, heh
[21:59] <tonsit> elinux has been right in my experience
[22:01] <aaa801> yay got it to bloody work
[22:01] <aaa801> :D
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[22:05] * chupacabra is never gonna get his Pi!
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[22:07] <Flexnard> chupacabra who did you order from?
[22:10] <chupacabra> Allied
[22:11] <Flexnard> then yup never getting it
[22:11] <odin_> the carpet company ?
[22:11] <chupacabra> my buddy ordered 2 days earlier from someone else and got his today.
[22:12] <tonsit> i ordered from newark, despite being oversold it got to me in about a week
[22:12] <tonsit> i also ordered one off ebay for $5 more that arrived in 2 days :p
[22:12] <IT_Sean> where are you, chupathingey?
[22:12] <chupacabra> austin tx
[22:12] <IT_Sean> I ordered from MCM and had it in a couple of days
[22:13] <Flexnard> check to see if they charged you. I ordered from allied they never charged me and they totally lost the order Allied is completely incompetent
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[22:13] <Flexnard> I turned around order from Element 14 and got it quick
[22:13] <chupacabra> Flex. ya seems i got lost.
[22:13] <chupacabra> never charged.
[22:13] <tonsit> hah
[22:13] <tonsit> sorry, sucks
[22:14] <chupacabra> tks. gonna order another one.
[22:14] <Flexnard> np
[22:14] <tonsit> what did you pay with shipping?
[22:14] <tonsit> or what didnt you pay
[22:14] <chupacabra> never got a total
[22:14] <aaa801> :D
[22:14] <tonsit> thats a strange way to do things
[22:14] <tonsit> :p
[22:14] <chupacabra> 35
[22:15] <Flexnard> lol they couldn't even calculate shipping or tax
[22:15] <Flexnard> ya same issue
[22:15] <tonsit> hehe
[22:15] <tonsit> go for newark/element 14 a proper distributor
[22:15] <Flexnard> oh and that web order number they gave you if you try to cancel the order with that they will tell you its invaild!
[22:15] <tonsit> http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/productdetail.jsp?id=43W5302&Ntt=43W5302&COM=raspi-group
[22:16] <lunchdump> I just got one from MCM today. Took 4 days total
[22:16] <tonsit> took about a week to get mine from them
[22:16] <IT_Sean> Same here... about 4 days for mine from MCM
[22:16] <tonsit> i'm not familiar with mcm, but it sounds good
[22:16] <IT_Sean> MCM Electronics
[22:16] <Flexnard> anyones gotta be better then allied
[22:16] <Flexnard> lol
[22:16] <IT_Sean> heh
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[22:17] <tonsit> mcm has stock too
[22:17] <IT_Sean> indeed
[22:17] <IT_Sean> seeing that big shipping envelope on my doorstep, and knowing it was full if Pi was a pretty good feeling, too. :p
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[22:18] <Flexnard> lol ya
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[22:22] <tonsit> lol
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[22:29] * chupacabra just ordered from E14
[22:29] <IT_Sean> WHEEWT
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[22:35] <chupacabra> HAH. now get an email from allied telling me they do not know when they will get any in. CANCEL MY ORDER!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[22:35] <IT_Sean> erft
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[22:37] <ryanteck> get any what in?
[22:37] <ryanteck> Pi?
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[22:42] <aaa801> IT_Sean http://imgur.com/1F1O6tx
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[23:23] <StubbornTurtle> I'm new to micro controllers, etc, but can you use components like this (http://www.amazon.com/LCD-Module-Arduino-White-Blue/dp/B003B22UR0/) with the raspberry pi easily?
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[23:41] <flypiper> :q
[23:41] <[diecast]> StubbornTurtle: no problem
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[23:42] <StubbornTurtle> [diecast]: Someone was trying to explain the difference to me about the pins on the arduino vs. the pi and I couldn't quite follow
[23:43] <[diecast]> well, there are 3.3v and 5v pins on the pi
[23:43] <[diecast]> arduino only has 5v
[23:43] <[diecast]> so that partiucular lcd is made for arduino because it needs 5v
[23:43] <[diecast]> but the pi can handle that too
[23:43] <[diecast]> you should see on your board which pin is marked 5v
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[23:43] <[diecast]> there are plenty of howtos for hooking lcd to pi
[23:43] <[diecast]> same thing
[23:44] <[diecast]> im leaving now. see you later.
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[23:46] <StubbornTurtle> [diecast]: Thanks for the help
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