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IRC Log for 2013-02-16

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[0:15] <felipealmeida> Hello
[0:15] <felipealmeida> does anybody know how to make gdb make good backtraces in raspberry with gdb from archlinux? I'm already compiling with debug enabled
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[0:18] <rikkib> Two web cams running on 3.1.09 kernels today... http://www.bencom.co.nz/cam/ Latest kernel just does not work still
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[0:22] <netzvieh> rikkib: you are moving them?
[0:22] <rikkib> No
[0:22] <rikkib> cam noise
[0:22] <rikkib> maybe
[0:22] <mgottschlag> felipealmeida: "good"? what is missing?
[0:22] <mgottschlag> usually -g should be all you need, you might be missing libc debug symbols though
[0:23] <rikkib> Takes a million hours of watching/playing/watching again to sort this stuff out it seems
[0:23] <felipealmeida> I mean I compiled directfb with --enable-debug
[0:23] <netzvieh> g1c1 looked like it was turned by 10?? or smth like that
[0:23] <xiambax> rsyning 300 gigs over hfs takes forever on wireless.
[0:23] <xiambax> s/nfs
[0:23] <felipealmeida> and all I get is #1 sigqueue #2 direct_trap and the rest ??
[0:23] <netzvieh> xiambax: why would anyone do that?
[0:24] <lost_soul> xiambax: that really doesn't shock you does it?
[0:24] <xiambax> No not really. 10 hours but meh
[0:24] <felipealmeida> and it says it has previous frame identical to this frame
[0:24] <rikkib> If I can get it stable I can put another cam here http://122.61.65.146:8081
[0:24] <xiambax> Mac doesn't read ext4. and I don't want to pay.
[0:24] <felipealmeida> mgottschlag: Backtrace stopped: previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?)
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[0:24] <felipealmeida> Which is unlikely to be corrupted. It is just a assert
[0:24] <xiambax> macfuse has always been a pain in my ass and its unreliable.
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[0:25] <Zarek_> macfuse works here
[0:25] <xiambax> Fair enough, Ive never had luck.
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[0:26] <xiambax> I need to erase and install. I more or less haven't had one since 2007.
[0:26] <mgottschlag> felipealmeida: and the assert is in the directfb code? then --enable-debug probably didn't work as it should
[0:26] <xiambax> Keep transferring.
[0:26] <netzvieh> rikkib: that place looks like fun :D
[0:26] <felipealmeida> mgottschlag: yes
[0:26] <xiambax> So I'm moving stuff onto my external and organizing it.
[0:26] <lost_soul> with that much data.. I have to say I would just plug in an ethernet cable and "let er rip"
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[0:27] <felipealmeida> mgottschlag: well, before --enable-debug the assert didn't even triggered. Probably NDEBUG was being defined
[0:27] <xiambax> good call.
[0:27] <rikkib> I was asked to manage it on Thursday but have turned it down for the time being... I am currently mentoring the business.
[0:28] <felipealmeida> mgottschlag: I'll see what flags were passed to gcc while compiling in the makefiles
[0:28] <felipealmeida> thanks
[0:28] <rikkib> If that goes OK I will consider running it.
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[0:29] <mgottschlag> actually, I think gdb should even print warnings if debug info is missing
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[0:29] <felipealmeida> mgottschlag: -O3 -g3 could it be the -O3 is messing up the backtrace?
[0:29] <mgottschlag> but then I haven't used gdb for some time
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[0:30] <mgottschlag> don't know, even -O3 should print some basic strack traces
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[0:30] <mgottschlag> even if functions are inlined or reordered
[0:30] <xiambax> I forgot I had a 50 foot ethernet cable.
[0:31] <ParkerR> :D Woohoo. libimobiledevice and ifuse working on the Pi
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[0:38] <netzvieh> anyone tried the amazon basics external dvd rw drive with the pi?
[0:39] <xiambax> Quantum Physics is rad!
[0:39] <xiambax> BTW
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[0:53] <StubbornTurtle> With a Pi, how would you connect more components than could directly connect to the heads? Is there a way to expand the heads to additional heads?
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[0:53] <StubbornTurtle> (say for example, I wanted to power 20 different LCDs)
[0:53] <lost_soul> you couldn't
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[0:54] <StubbornTurtle> lost_soul: Is that just a limitation of project boards like the Pi?
[0:54] <lost_soul> possibly if you wanted the exact same thing being displayed... but surely not something different
[0:54] <StubbornTurtle> You would have to build some sort of interface like over USB or something?
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[0:55] <StubbornTurtle> or have multiple Pis communicate
[0:55] <pksato> StubbornTurtle: that kind of lcd? a 2x16? TFT?
[0:55] <StubbornTurtle> pksato: I was imagining 2x16s
[0:55] <pksato> HD44780
[0:57] <pksato> Its need 6 lines to control.
[0:57] <pksato> RPi have 17 lines.
[0:57] <StubbornTurtle> If you wanted to control 5 of them though, you couldn't with a single Pi, right?
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[0:58] <mrtharepist> Anyone running a pi as a ZNC server?
[0:58] <pksato> 11 HD44780 can be controled direct from gpio
[0:58] <gordonDrogon> You can...
[0:59] <pksato> if my math is correct.
[0:59] <gordonDrogon> I put together a means to control multiple ones like that.
[0:59] <ParkerR> mrtharepist, I have seen many people do it
[0:59] <gordonDrogon> only tested it with 2 though.
[0:59] <SwK> so I know this is being beat into the ground, but is there any good info on working around the USB packet loss problem?
[0:59] <StubbornTurtle> mirroring the contents? or independent?
[0:59] <ParkerR> SwK, What problems have you been having?
[1:00] <pksato> independent.
[1:00] <tdy> i have a similar question about whether you can use 2 accelerometers and 1 gyroscope on the one Pi over i2c
[1:00] <SwK> ParkerR: missing audio from usb headset,
[1:00] <gordonDrogon> 12 LCD displays was my calculation.
[1:00] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/lcd-library/
[1:01] <gordonDrogon> however on a Rev 2 with 4 more GPIOs, it's ... 4 more, so 16.
[1:01] <swart> so the KADE guys have started making boards, but it looks like they still don't have any way to take orders from people who didn't make a kickstarter pledge
[1:01] <tdy> would they all communicate over /dev/i2c-1?
[1:01] <SwK> ParkerR: I think its probably related to the well publicized usb driver issue???
[1:01] <ParkerR> SwK, Ahh hadnt tried USB headset yet. Everything else seems to work fine. (Wifi, mouse receiver, iPhone 4)
[1:01] <gordonDrogon> tdy yes you can - all on the same I2C bus (if they're I2C peripherals!)
[1:01] <SwK> ParkerR: i have noticed the "keyboard problem" also with dropped or stuck keys
[1:02] <SwK> I understand people are working on the issue, i was just hoping for a possible workaround
[1:02] <pksato> if use dmux, 4096. :P
[1:02] * linuxthefish is now known as linuxthefish`
[1:02] <gordonDrogon> however it's past my bed time now.... laters!
[1:03] <ParkerR> SwK, I have noticed key repeats with a wireless keyboard. Always thought it was just my batteries
[1:03] <SwK> gordonDrogon: I'm working on hack of the adafruit LCD driver board to add a pile if stackable GPIOs off i2c??? we'll know monday how it works
[1:03] <tdy> gordonDrogon: ok thanks
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[1:03] <gordonDrogon> SwK, good luck :)
[1:04] <SwK> gordonDrogon: I'll have to get you to review it after I get it tested, waiting on fedex to drop more parts ;)
[1:04] <StubbornTurtle> I was looking at getting one of the RGB negative LCDs from adafruit
[1:04] <StubbornTurtle> they look fun
[1:05] <SwK> StubbornTurtle: thats actually what I started with, pretty easy to use, put it together (basic soldering skills required) and go
[1:06] <StubbornTurtle> SwK: Cool. I need to pick up an iron, lol
[1:06] <gordonDrogon> zzzzz :)
[1:06] <StubbornTurtle> SwK: any recommendations?
[1:06] <StubbornTurtle> does it really matter at all?
[1:06] <SwK> StubbornTurtle: dont get a cheap walmart special, and get some crap you practice on if you've never used one before
[1:07] <StubbornTurtle> SwK: It has been a while since I've used one
[1:07] <StubbornTurtle> I used to play with some kits and model trains back in the day
[1:07] <StubbornTurtle> Should I get something hardcore like this: http://www.amazon.com/Aoyue-937-Digital-Soldering-Station/dp/B000I30QBW/ ?
[1:07] <StubbornTurtle> lol
[1:07] <tdy> when you say practice on, do you just mean so it looks prettier?
[1:08] <tdy> or would a noobish soldering job actual affect how it works
[1:08] <SwK> StubbornTurtle: thats the one I have or similar
[1:09] <SwK> tdy theres a few places that can be tight to get to, and you want to not get to much solder on some of the pins as you'll have a solder bridge which can be bad
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[1:11] <SwK> so a little practice doesnt hurt??? i used to do component level repair on boards back in the day for a job, and i realized how bad I had gotten at soldering when i started playing with Arduino kits heh
[1:11] <StubbornTurtle> Is something like this good to get started? http://www.amazon.com/Elenco-Electronics-ST-12-Soldering-Tool/dp/B0002LLWZY/
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[1:11] <SwK> StubbornTurtle: the Aoyue you pasted is the one I actually have
[1:12] <tdy> the supervisor for one of my projects keeps telling me i can't really screw it up.. that even if i "screw up" i can just reheat the mistakes and wipe them off
[1:12] <tdy> but i still feel skeptical..
[1:12] <SwK> but the elenco for a start isnt bad??? the drawback is you cant control the heat with it, but the solder sucker and desoldering wick comes in handy
[1:12] <SwK> tdy solder sucker FTW
[1:13] <StubbornTurtle> SwK: solder sucker = solder wick, right?
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[1:13] <SwK> StubbornTurtle: solder sucker is that is a pneumatic sucker that litterally sucks the solder away from the work piece
[1:13] <StubbornTurtle> SwK: the benefit of heat control is controlling how fast the solder melts?
[1:14] <SwK> solder wick is a braid that uses capilary action to remove excess solder
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[1:14] <SwK> StubbornTurtle: keeps you from damaging the board
[1:14] <SwK> StubbornTurtle: certain components you can damage easily with to much heat on them???
[1:15] <SwK> StubbornTurtle: like the poly fuses for instance
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[1:19] <_ember> did someone managed to successfully combine QT with WiringPi (using QTCreator) ?
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[1:36] <scummos> _ember: use KDevelop! ;)
[1:37] <scummos> it eats wiringpi for breakfast
[1:38] <moebius_eye> Anyone can tell me if this works on their browser? http://giss.tv:8001/moebiuseye.ogg
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[1:39] <scummos> moebius_eye: apparently not
[1:39] <moebius_eye> scummos: you have to wait a few seconds.
[1:39] <ParkerR> moebius_eye, Nope
[1:39] <scummos> moebius_eye: how many seconds? ;p
[1:39] <ParkerR> Oh
[1:39] <ParkerR> It finally went
[1:39] <Viper7> works here
[1:39] <Viper7> yeah needed a keyframe before it made sense
[1:39] <ShiftPlusOne> moebius_eye, works here
[1:39] <ParkerR> moebius_eye, Streaming your desktop?
[1:39] <moebius_eye> Yes.
[1:39] <tdy> why is it called an ogg?
[1:40] <tdy> i thought that was an audio format
[1:40] <ParkerR> tdy, ogg video format
[1:40] <tdy> maybe i'm confusing something
[1:40] <moebius_eye> because it in theora + Vorbis format. :)
[1:40] <ParkerR> moebius_eye, What are you using to stream?
[1:40] <Viper7> ogg is a container
[1:40] <Viper7> it holds video, audio, captions, and more
[1:40] <tdy> ah
[1:40] <moebius_eye> ParkerR: vlc
[1:40] <ShiftPlusOne> Woo, I can see myself!
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[1:40] <ParkerR> moebius_eye, Ahh
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[1:40] <ShiftPlusOne> Quite a delay there
[1:41] <_ember> scummos: thanks, but assumption of my project is to use full QT enviroment, that includes QT Creator. Or maybe did you mean some KDevelop library that substitues wiringPI?
[1:41] <moebius_eye> Yeah, it is delayed, but that's OK. I'm preparing a live-streamed conference.
[1:41] <moebius_eye> So, it's not an issue.
[1:42] <scummos> now it works
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[1:42] <scummos> _ember: kdevelop supports qt as well.
[1:42] <scummos> it just has different features
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[1:43] <scummos> qtcreator is nice too but it's very focused around Qt... kdevelop is a bit more... general
[1:44] <_ember> I see, but how does it help me with my GPIO problem ? :) Does it has some library or something?
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[1:44] <_ember> aww, sory, now I understand what you meant :)
[1:45] <scummos> _ember: oh, sorry, I assumed you had a problem with QtCreator supporting wiring pi
[1:45] <scummos> but yes, I have used Qt with the GPIOs... altough not with wiringp
[1:45] <ParkerR> Somebody try this http://minecrafted.mooo.com:8080/desktop.ogg
[1:45] <scummos> *wiringpi
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[1:45] <malcom2073> ParkerR: trying
[1:45] <malcom2073> Works
[1:45] <_ember> ParkerR: works for me
[1:45] <ParkerR> :D
[1:46] <malcom2073> Woot, I can see my words!
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[1:46] <_ember> scummos: maybe it's an creator issue, but I found post that it's something related to cross-compiling. anyway, thanks for advice!
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[1:46] <scummos> _ember: in that case, I guess you need to be more specific about your problem in case you still need help. ;)
[1:46] <scummos> (i.e. error messages etc.)
[1:47] <ShiftPlusOne> speaking of steam... time to give leisure suit larry reloaded alpha a go >.>
[1:47] <malcom2073> ParkerR: nice BG image
[1:47] <ParkerR> :)
[1:47] <ShiftPlusOne> ParkerR, What's the launcher you're using?
[1:48] <ParkerR> ShiftPlusOne, Docky
[1:48] <ShiftPlusOne> thanks
[1:48] <_ember> First of all, I installed Wiring PI on my laptop using build script provided.
[1:48] <_ember> Secondly i configured *.pro file with following line:
[1:48] <_ember> LIBS += -L/usr/local/include -lwiringPi
[1:48] <_ember> Everything worked fine, until I tried to #include <wiring.h>, which caused:
[1:48] <_ember> wiringPi.h: No such file or directory
[1:48] <_ember> So I installed WiringPI on RPI - nothing changed.
[1:48] <_ember> Next step was to make new image of Raspbian system including wiringPI (the one that resist on device) and mount it in my Ubuntu instead of old image I used for mounting (btw. I wounder why QT needs it)
[1:48] <_ember> I think I'm a one step further:
[1:48] <_ember> Nothing's changed when I try to #include <wiringPi.h> (not found), but when I do not include it, i get:
[1:48] <_ember> 1. skipping incompatible /home/ember/opt/rasp-pi-rootfs/usr/lib/libwiringPi.so when searching for -lwiringPi
[1:48] <_ember> 2. skipping incompatible /home/ember/opt/rasp-pi-rootfs/usr/lib/libwiringPi.so when searching for -lwiringPi
[1:48] <_ember> 3. cannot find -lwiringPi
[1:49] <_ember> It'd my whole problem described :)
[1:49] <_ember> First of all, I installed Wiring PI on my laptop using build script provided.
[1:49] <_ember> Secondly i configured *.pro file with following line:
[1:49] <_ember> LIBS += -L/usr/local/include -lwiringPi
[1:49] <_ember> Everything worked fine, until I tried to #include <wiring.h>, which caused:
[1:49] <_ember> wiringPi.h: No such file or directory
[1:49] <_ember> So I installed WiringPI on RPI - nothing changed.
[1:49] <_ember> Next step was to make new image of Raspbian system including wiringPI (the one that resist on device) and mount it in my Ubuntu instead of old image I used for mounting (btw. I wounder why QT needs it)
[1:49] <_ember> I think I'm a one step further:
[1:49] <_ember> Nothing's changed when I try to #include <wiringPi.h> (not found), but when I do not include it, i get:
[1:49] <scummos> _ember: please use pastebin.com or a simlar service when posting more than two lines in IRC!
[1:49] <scummos> people get angry otherwise
[1:49] <_ember> ok, sory
[1:50] <moebius_eye> Wanna watch ghost in the shell with me? :)
[1:50] <scummos> it's also unreadable ;)
[1:50] <moebius_eye> http://giss.tv:8001/moebiuseye.ogg < It streaman. :)
[1:50] <_ember> right, I'm newbie so please forgive me :)
[1:50] <moebius_eye> worse quality ever, but it's not so bad;
[1:50] <scummos> _ember: no worries, just letting you know ;)
[1:50] <scummos> _ember: your include directories are wrong
[1:50] <scummos> i.e. they're missing the directory where the wiring pi includes are
[1:50] <scummos> the -l stuff is probably alright
[1:51] <scummos> you want something like INCLUDES += -I/path/to/wiringpi
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[1:51] <scummos> or so (I'm not using qmake so you might need to look up the exact syntax)
[1:51] <_ember> ok, I will trye it
[1:51] <_ember> *try
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[1:53] <scummos> also, if you install wiring pi on your laptop and just let qmake build this stuff, then you will get an executable for i386 or a similar architecture
[1:53] <scummos> which will not run on the pi since it needs to be compiled for armv6 for that
[1:54] <_ember> yes, I realized that after posting that :)
[1:54] <scummos> ok ;)
[1:54] <scummos> I personally just compile small stuff on the pi itself, that saves you the trouble of setting up a cross compiler
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[1:54] <_ember> anyway, it's wirring is now compiled on rpi so I think it's ok now
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[1:55] <scummos> as long as you either run the compiler on the pi or specifically run an armv6 compiler on your notebook, yes.
[1:55] <scummos> well you'll easily notice if it's wrong ;)
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[1:57] <roasted> so, riddle me this. If I purchase the two codecs from the raspberrypi page, I SHOULD be able to play any regular movie DVD, no?
[1:59] <_ember> lookes like INCLUDEPATH += /home/ember/rpi/wiringPi/wiringPi worked. This is the folder where i keep code files from wiring. Thank you!
[1:59] <scummos> yes, that looks ok
[2:00] <scummos> not very portable, but should work ;)
[2:00] <_ember> well, maybe I will fix it another time, now I'm just happy it's working :)
[2:02] <flypiper> I just installed apache2 on my pi, and it works great !!!
[2:02] <scummos> _ember: not necessary, I do the same for my private stuff
[2:02] <scummos> *g
[2:02] <scummos> _ember: make sure you use a proper VCS so you can come back if you break it! ;)
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[2:03] <_ember> git is enough I think :p
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[2:03] <scummos> yep
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[2:07] <roasted> I might have to retire my rpi as my htpc
[2:07] <roasted> and get somethign that kind of sort of works with DVDs <_<
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[2:13] <Scriven> roasted, external dvd drive via usb?
[2:13] <Scriven> which is really an internal dvd in a different hat.
[2:13] <roasted> Scriven: yep
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[3:57] <StubbornTurtle> Would it be hard to make this (https://www.adafruit.com/products/498) work with the Raspberry Pi?
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[4:01] <plugwash> looks like it's designed for 5V logic which will make interfacing it with the Pi somewhat trickier
[4:02] <SwK> StubbornTurtle: I might have to order one of those and find out
[4:03] <SwK> StubbornTurtle: I'll bet its close enough to the 16x2 you can probably drive it via a similar setup
[4:04] <plugwash> looking at the datasheet you will need a bidirectional level shifter for the data pins and some other level shifting for toher pins
[4:04] <plugwash> at least if you want full functionality
[4:04] <SwK> or just use something like http://learn.adafruit.com/assets/3861
[4:04] <SwK> which uses i2c and 5vdc feed
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[4:08] <plugwash> the mcp23017 used on that board is NOT gauranteed to work on a 3.3V I2C bus when powered from 5V
[4:09] <plugwash> so you'd have to add an I2C level shifter circuit as well to bring it within spec
[4:09] <StubbornTurtle> SwK: What about this one: http://www.adafruit.com/products/931 ?
[4:10] <StubbornTurtle> "communicates via I2C" and uses 3.3V logic levels
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[4:26] <DeliriumTremens> can i dd the card im currently running my pi on? say to a mounted nfs share?
[4:26] <SpeedEvil> yes
[4:26] <DeliriumTremens> just dd the /dev/sdcard mount?
[4:27] <SpeedEvil> however, if you don't mount read only first, the filesystem may be corrupt
[4:27] <DeliriumTremens> hmm ok
[4:27] <DeliriumTremens> might be safer to power down and do it on my laptop
[4:27] <SpeedEvil> using NFS to copy the files, or rsync would be better
[4:27] <DeliriumTremens> was hoping to schedule weekly or nightly backups
[4:29] <DeliriumTremens> can i mount it as read only while its running? probably a dumb question
[4:30] <ParkerR> Could remount
[4:31] <SpeedEvil> yes
[4:31] <SpeedEvil> rsync is great for that
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[4:32] <DeliriumTremens> i should do some reading...never done anything like that before
[4:32] <DeliriumTremens> to the goog!
[4:34] <ldionmarcil> finally got my sd card!!!
[4:34] <ldionmarcil> lets do this
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[4:37] <ParkerR> :/ Kinda wish they would port vnc4server to arm. Heck it's not even any binaries. I think it's just a collection of scripts to make x11vnc run a virtual X session
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[4:38] <DeliriumTremens> lots of people saying to do the deed and place the card in another system to dd
[4:38] <DeliriumTremens> rsync will do differential backips
[4:38] <DeliriumTremens> i want full backups taken in set intervals
[4:40] <Hodapp> rsync will leave you with a full backup
[4:40] <Hodapp> not a differential backup
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[4:41] <DeliriumTremens> so to reverse the process id rsync the backup onto a new card?
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[4:41] <Hodapp> why do you require a full backup, not a differential?
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[4:43] <DeliriumTremens> i'd just feel more comfortable with full backups
[4:44] <Hodapp> if you use rsnapshot, you can do regular snapshotted backups
[4:44] <DeliriumTremens> nice thanks ill check that out
[4:44] <ParkerR> Oh seems like tightvncserver does what I was wanting
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[4:52] <xiambax> Go go rsync.
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[4:53] <xiambax> http://imgur.com/zvYAA2J
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[4:56] <ldionmarcil> hey. after using dd, do I have to `sync' ?
[4:57] <ShiftPlusOne> I do out of paranoia, but probably not.
[4:57] <Hodapp> ldionmarcil: no.
[4:57] <ldionmarcil> I nuked a previous SD card so im super cautious now
[4:58] <ldionmarcil> time to boot
[4:58] <ldionmarcil> inb4 not working
[4:59] * chupacabra cant decide what to put on his Pi. Maybe Slackware.
[5:00] <ldionmarcil> it's still doing the same thing...
[5:00] <ldionmarcil> so mad right now
[5:00] <Hodapp> chupacabra: plan 9!
[5:01] <ldionmarcil> Panic: VFS: Unable to moutn root fs on unknown-block(179,2)
[5:01] <ldionmarcil> on two SD cards now...
[5:01] <chupacabra> oops
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[5:01] <chupacabra> putting a new fs on the cards doesnt fix em?
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[5:01] <ldionmarcil> chupacabra, I nuked oen of my cards trying
[5:02] <ldionmarcil> and then with this new one, same error
[5:03] <DeliriumTremens> rsnapshot looks great
[5:03] <xiambax> They keep pushing my back order date on newark. :( I'm expecting three.
[5:03] <UnaClocker> Typical..
[5:03] <xiambax> I plan on giving one away
[5:03] <UnaClocker> xiambax: Trying to get a Model A?
[5:03] <UnaClocker> or 3..
[5:03] <xiambax> using the second as a mail server.
[5:04] <UnaClocker> Seems like the B shouldn't be backordered anymore.
[5:04] <xiambax> then the second to build small images on that do one task extremely well
[5:04] <xiambax> images 256 and 500mb.
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[5:04] <xiambax> distro customized images that perform one application well.
[5:05] <chupacabra> i ordered from newark today and they said they had em. Allied had dropped my order somewhere.
[5:05] <UnaClocker> Allied is horrrrrible!
[5:06] <UnaClocker> Tried to charge my card 9 months after I placed my order.. WTF..
[5:06] <xiambax> newarkcanada.
[5:06] <xiambax> ?
[5:06] <piney> newark has been good to me
[5:07] <UnaClocker> I've had two good experiences buying Pi.. eBay, and Sparkfun.
[5:07] <UnaClocker> I have 6 Pi....
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[5:08] <piney> my first pi took a few months, but everyones did. my second order arrived in less than a week
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[5:11] <UnaClocker> My first two arrived after the initial couple month delay, at the end of May. The next one arrived with no notice of shipment, and complete silence from RS. Cool thing with that one was Paypal refunded my money since they wouldn't answer the dispute.
[5:11] <UnaClocker> 4th one arrived fairly on schedule, from Newark..
[5:12] <UnaClocker> 5th one was seriously delayed from Newark after the 512mb launch, AND they charged me $20 for shipping.. So I cancelled it and got it from eBay for less than they were charging after the insane shipping, and had it in hand two weeks before they said they'd have more in stock.
[5:12] <UnaClocker> 6th one was easy peezy from Sparkfun.. ;)
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[5:13] <UnaClocker> The eBay one was an actual Made In UK unit.. :)
[5:14] <steve_rox> yay
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[5:25] <UnaClocker> Sure is quiet for a Friday night.
[5:26] <UnaClocker> Just loaded the RetroPie distro onto an SD card.. Hope it works this time.. I've had the worst luck with this thing.
[5:27] <ldionmarcil> so apparently my pi doesnt wanna know anything about arch linux
[5:27] <ldionmarcil> which should I use? i want something minimalistic, no X
[5:27] <ShiftPlusOne> arch should work fine, what's the problem?
[5:27] <UnaClocker> Just use the Raspbian image, don't type startx when it boots.
[5:27] <ldionmarcil> Panic: VFS: Unable to moutn root fs on unknown-block(179,2)
[5:27] <ldionmarcil> this happens
[5:27] <ldionmarcil> on all my cards
[5:28] <UnaClocker> Then you're not making the cards correctly.
[5:28] <ldionmarcil> UnaClocker, wow, really, thanks
[5:28] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, RetroPie image has been great for me
[5:28] <UnaClocker> No problem. ;) I'll be here all night.
[5:28] <UnaClocker> ParkerR: Yeah, got it working great this time.. :)
[5:28] <ldionmarcil> I'm not the only one reporting such issues by the way
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[5:28] <_pash> is there any way to check the delivery status of my rasp?
[5:28] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, How do you mess up a premade image made to run the emulators great? :P
[5:29] <UnaClocker> I see lots of people with issues with Arch.. Why they can't just use Raspbian, I'll never understand.
[5:29] <ldionmarcil> because it's bloated
[5:29] <UnaClocker> ParkerR: I didn't want the pre-made image. I ran the installer on my standard install.
[5:29] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Ahh yeah
[5:29] <ldionmarcil> and who in their right mind would want to package an X server on a headless server
[5:29] <ldionmarcil> please
[5:29] <ParkerR> Audio was a pita
[5:29] <ParkerR> ldionmarcil, You can do the Raspbian netinstall
[5:29] <UnaClocker> It's not headless, it's got HDMI and composite.
[5:30] <ParkerR> Then just dont install X
[5:30] <ldionmarcil> psh it was a faulty build
[5:30] <ldionmarcil> nuked my card for nothing, great
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[5:30] <ParkerR> ldionmarcil, The card should still be just fine
[5:31] <ldionmarcil> no, it is nuked
[5:31] <ldionmarcil> bad blocks, cant dd if /dev/zero to it
[5:31] <ParkerR> How?
[5:31] <ldionmarcil> we tried everything
[5:31] <ldionmarcil> cant fsck
[5:31] <ldionmarcil> it's just nuked
[5:31] <ParkerR> Tried just dd'ing a new image to it?
[5:31] <ldionmarcil> I dd'ed once and it crashed, removed the card cause nothing responded, errosr since then
[5:31] <ldionmarcil> yeah ParkerR.
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[5:31] <ldionmarcil> if dding /dev/zero doesn,t work, nothing will.
[5:32] <ldionmarcil> its for a reason it's dubbed disk destroyer
[5:32] <ParkerR> Just kinda surprised. Never had an SD card die like that for me.
[5:32] <ldionmarcil> it happens
[5:32] <ldionmarcil> that's why the "remove safely" feature exists
[5:33] <ldionmarcil> nobody really does it
[5:33] <ldionmarcil> but it's there for a reason
[5:33] <ccssnet> bad sd cards can be recovered if its partitionable
[5:33] <ParkerR> I always just run "sync" after transferring anything
[5:33] <ldionmarcil> ccssnet, it is not
[5:33] <ldionmarcil> yeah ParkerR I couldn't really as everything just crashed on me
[5:33] <ccssnet> and format it with ext2 using -c flag
[5:33] <ldionmarcil> got unlucky, cost me a sd card
[5:33] <ldionmarcil> not the end of the world
[5:33] <ccssnet> it will detect the bad blocks and not use them
[5:33] <ccssnet> so ldionmarcil id call that useable wouldnt you?
[5:34] <ldionmarcil> I'm not sure I follow you
[5:34] <ldionmarcil> what do you want me to try?
[5:34] <ldionmarcil> I still have it.
[5:34] <ccssnet> the go format it as mentioned
[5:34] <ccssnet> mkfs.ext2 -m0 -c /dev/some-disk
[5:35] <ccssnet> ps. its going to take ages
[5:35] <ldionmarcil> I can see that
[5:35] <ldionmarcil> hardly 3%
[5:36] <ldionmarcil> plus it's on a shitty, 4 year old netboko
[5:36] <UnaClocker> ParkerR: Stock RetroPie image, I try to run the only Sega Geneis game it included, and it locks up on the DGEN splash screen??? Fail...
[5:36] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, It doesnt really include games
[5:36] <ParkerR> Just dot files to show you the emulators exist
[5:36] <UnaClocker> Fail..
[5:36] <UnaClocker> heh
[5:37] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Otherwise the emulator page wouldnt show up in the browser
[5:37] <ldionmarcil> well. it's good to have the pi back
[5:37] <ldionmarcil> too bad I lost all my files
[5:37] <UnaClocker> ParkerR: That may be why my self install didn't work..
[5:37] <UnaClocker> Documentation would be nice.
[5:37] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, That's just there to kinda show newcomers what exists (and theres even more than that)
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[5:38] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Naah self install doesnt do that
[5:38] <ParkerR> (source install)
[5:38] <UnaClocker> Yeah, it came up and didn't give me a list of emulators at all.. Just kinda stuck there..
[5:39] <_pash> is there any way to check the delivery status of my rasp?
[5:39] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Alt F4 to exit or ESC then down arrow to exit :P
[5:39] <UnaClocker> alt f4.. How quaint.. heh.. And I did try ESC already, nothing happens..
[5:39] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, You had to have rom files in ~/RetroPie/roms/<emualtorname>
[5:40] <ccssnet> ldionmarcil: yea ive had many sd cards because i owned a open pandora handheld
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[5:40] <ccssnet> i learned the hard way not to use one as a native compile zone
[5:40] <ldionmarcil> oh
[5:40] <ldionmarcil> 73% now btw
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[5:40] <ccssnet> then had to do this format method above to recover a few chips ^
[5:41] <ccssnet> recover as in make it useable again. not data back.
[5:41] <ldionmarcil> that's what I want
[5:41] <ccssnet> k
[5:41] <ldionmarcil> couldn't care less about the data on it right now
[5:41] <ldionmarcil> 90%..
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[5:42] <ldionmarcil> yep it crashed ccssnet
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[5:43] <ccssnet> ouch
[5:43] <ldionmarcil> http://pastebin.com/yx2zBwtq
[5:43] <ccssnet> that things really toast
[5:43] <ldionmarcil> if you care
[5:43] * ccssnet looks
[5:44] <ccssnet> you can manually set super blocks
[5:44] <ccssnet> but ive never done it
[5:44] <ldionmarcil> heh...
[5:44] <ldionmarcil> it's read-only
[5:44] <ldionmarcil> i can read stuff from it, but can't write to it
[5:44] <ldionmarcil> and yes, I did check the manual switch
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[5:46] <ldionmarcil> anyhow, toasted chinese card
[5:46] <ldionmarcil> RIP, moved on
[5:46] <ldionmarcil> cost like <10$
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[5:51] <UnaClocker> ParkerR: I don't see where the genesis roms go.. There's no genesis, sega, or dgen folder under roms..
[5:51] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Megadrive
[5:51] <ParkerR> Megadrve is a Genesis. Genesis is just the US name for the Megadrive
[5:51] <UnaClocker> Ahh. Weird..
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[6:06] <UnaClocker> ParkerR: What was that command I had to put in boot.cfg to force audio over HDMI?
[6:07] <UnaClocker> err, config.txt
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[6:07] <UnaClocker> Ahh, hdmi_drive=2..
[6:08] <DeliriumTremens> so can i use rsnapshot to just backup /dev/mmcblk0p1
[6:08] <DeliriumTremens> and exclude the path for my nfs mount,
[6:09] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, hdmi_drive=2
[6:09] <UnaClocker> Thanks
[6:10] <UnaClocker> I'm going to use a Teensy to read the controllers and feed them into the Pi as keyboard buttons..
[6:10] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Funnily enough the RetroPie image has become my new main distro. Emualtors are all setup and still has the LXDE environment
[6:10] <ParkerR> *Emulators
[6:11] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Also when I said ESC earlier I meant just F1
[6:11] <UnaClocker> Ahh, that's cool. I didn't think it'd have X.. I can get the Wifi working then..
[6:11] <UnaClocker> Ahh. Yeah, ESC didn't work.. :)
[6:12] <UnaClocker> Ahh, sound.. :)
[6:14] <ParkerR> Hahahahhahahahha
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[6:14] <ParkerR> SO I launched minecraft Pi in a VNC session. I actually starts drawing on the framebuffer over on the Pi
[6:14] <ParkerR> *It
[6:15] <UnaClocker> hehe.. It'd have to, bypass the X server that has no video drivers.
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[6:16] <ParkerR> Yep
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[6:26] <Tater61757> Man, Raspi is taking me back to childhood. I haven't used IRC in years! :)
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[6:29] <Tater61757> anyone out there?
[6:29] <Flexnard> yep
[6:30] <ParkerR> Nope
[6:30] <ParkerR> Not a single person
[6:30] <Flexnard> lol
[6:30] <Tater61757> nice :-P
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[6:34] <clear`> any easy way to watch youtube video's from the pi
[6:35] <ParkerR> clear`, https://github.com/rjw57/yt
[6:35] <clear`> i want to test out my wifi adapter
[6:35] <ldionmarcil> youtube... command line?
[6:35] <ldionmarcil> how?
[6:36] <ParkerR> ldionmarcil, https://github.com/rjw57/yt
[6:36] <Tater61757> i don't think it supports flash sorry
[6:36] <ldionmarcil> I saw that thanks
[6:36] <ldionmarcil> does it open a GUI or is it converted in ascii?
[6:36] <ParkerR> ldionmarcil, cursed based browser for youtube
[6:36] <ParkerR> *curses
[6:36] <ldionmarcil> so ascii.
[6:36] <clear`> i have my tv too close (its sitting at my table)
[6:36] <clear`> arg
[6:36] <Tater61757> clever
[6:37] <ParkerR> Uses omxplayer
[6:37] <ldionmarcil> ah.
[6:39] <clear`> actually i think openelec has a youtube addon
[6:39] <clear`> xbmc
[6:39] <ParkerR> Although the way youtube-dl currently is and how yt just starts downloading with youtube-dl then plays the file as it is download, it plays only the highest quality available. So if you are on a slower network and trying to play a 1080p video it can take a while
[6:39] <ParkerR> https://github.com/rjw57/yt/issues/5
[6:39] <ldionmarcil> surely this is a setting?
[6:39] <ldionmarcil> or hackable
[6:40] <ParkerR> Hackabale for sure
[6:40] <ParkerR> I just wouldn't know where to start
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[6:40] <Tater61757> Has anyone ever tried Tonido on rpi?
[6:42] <clear`> never heard of it
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[6:44] <Tater61757> personal cloud software
[6:44] <Tater61757> been running an old xp box on it for a couple years. runs like a charm.
[6:44] <UnaClocker> Ahh, that's where I recognized the name.. TonidoPlug.. Spinoff of the SheevaPlug..
[6:44] <Tater61757> exactly
[6:45] <UnaClocker> I still use my SheevaPlug as a server, Pi can't hack it..
[6:46] <Tater61757> actually thats my other question. i heard rpi was more powerful than tonido/sheeva. I'm looking to also run a couple other things on it to
[6:46] <UnaClocker> More powerful? Uh, no.. Not even overclocked.
[6:47] <UnaClocker> Toss in the lack of gigabit ethernet and onboard SATA...
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[6:49] <Tater61757> eh true. gige is nice, but most of my transfers are from off-site, so it doesn't matter so much to me. was going to use usb drives anyway. Guess I was wondering if the cpu would choke on hosting the website and/or processing image gallery thumbs
[6:49] <Tater61757> u running ubuntu on your sheeva btw?
[6:49] <UnaClocker> No, ubuntu had bailed on the armv5 before the SheevaPlug even came into existance.. It's always run Debian.
[6:50] <Tater61757> hmm didn't know that.
[6:50] <UnaClocker> Static webpages seem to do fine, dynamic bogs down pretty easily.
[6:51] <UnaClocker> Yeah, they shipped the Sheeva's with the last version of Ubuntu that ran on that version of the Arm, but it was out of date even back then..
[6:51] <UnaClocker> Debian Lenny was the stable branch back then. It's been awhile...
[6:52] <SwK> UnaClocker: i might have o get you to make me a shell or 2 for the rpi heh
[6:52] <UnaClocker> shell?
[6:52] <SwK> chasis/box/whatever
[6:53] <UnaClocker> Mmm, like the Sega Pi I'm doing right now? :)
[6:53] <SwK> ++
[6:54] <UnaClocker> The thought of refurbing these things had crossed my mind.. Make my own custom PCB to put inside them with the joystick ports, a nice RGB led in the power spot, use the power/reset buttons to exit the emulator/reboot the emulator??? :)
[6:55] <UnaClocker> I'm going to rebadge a game cartridge with a Sega Genesis an a RPi logo on it.. ;)
[6:55] <SwK> you know I just want to get the laser cutter and 3d printer past the GFAF (thats like the WAF)
[6:56] <UnaClocker> :)
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[7:01] <Tater61757> una: you play with alamode yet?
[7:02] <SwK> UnaClocker: hows your EE skills?
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[7:02] <UnaClocker> SwK: Growing daily. :)
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[7:03] <SwK> UnaClocker: mind looking at a schematic and telling me if i'm f'n crazy?
[7:03] <UnaClocker> Sure
[7:04] <SwK> http://switchpi.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/schematic.png
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[7:04] <SwK> for adafruit 16x2 + extra GPIOs of 4x3 matrix keypad
[7:04] <UnaClocker> Yeah, looks cool.
[7:05] <SwK> layout and eagle files are linked off base domain
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[7:06] <UnaClocker> You ever see the shield I made for the Pi?
[7:07] <SwK> i dont think so
[7:07] <SwK> I'm header for shield with this??? to prove the electrical design will be here monday
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[7:10] <SwK> UnaClocker: link?
[7:10] <UnaClocker> Sorry, digging through roms with my son.. I'll dig it up in a sec. :)
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[7:11] <SwK> lol
[7:12] <UnaClocker> SwK: https://twitter.com/UnaClocker/status/250414507652939776/photo/1
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[7:13] <SwK> una have any more of those?
[7:13] <UnaClocker> I had 3 made. First PCB I ever made.. They work, but if I made more, I'd do quite a bit of redesigning.
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[7:13] <SwK> whats the barrel connector used for?
[7:14] <UnaClocker> Power in..
[7:14] <SwK> fed back thru the 5v rail?
[7:14] <UnaClocker> I use a 5v wall-wart to power the Pi through the GPIO pins..
[7:14] <UnaClocker> Yup.
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[7:15] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Why the two RJ11 plugs?
[7:15] <piney> SwK, any reason you are powering the mcp23017 off of 5v? (won't that make the i2c pins 5v on that ic?) and if so, are you buffering the i2c to the rpi?
[7:16] <UnaClocker> ParkerR: They wemt off to remote temp sensors..
[7:16] <SwK> piney: i stole the design from lady ada...
[7:16] <SwK> I figure she went to MIT she should know what she's doing
[7:17] <ParkerR> UnaClocker, Ahh so just using them as modular connectors
[7:17] <UnaClocker> It's not stealing a design when it's open source.
[7:17] <ParkerR> I was thing "Womder what he is doing woth phone lines"
[7:17] <SwK> UnaClocker: trudat
[7:17] <UnaClocker> ParkerR: Yup.. Nice and cheap..
[7:17] <ParkerR> *thinking
[7:17] <SwK> I'm post my stuff MPL1.1
[7:18] <SwK> idk how i feal about mpl1.1 hardware w/out a commercial restriction tho
[7:18] <ParkerR> MPL?
[7:18] <SwK> ParkerR: you know the BSD and the GPL licenses right?
[7:19] <ParkerR> Ahh yeah
[7:19] <SwK> the MPL is in the middle, you can do whatever you want with my code under the MPL like under the BSD, but, you need to send me the patches you do to my code
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[7:20] <SwK> I _hate_ the AGPL and I refuse to use the GPLv3??? the BSD is great, but in some things is a little too free???.
[7:20] <SwK> the MPL1.1 strikes a good balance imo
[7:20] <UnaClocker> I post my software and hardware as public domain. No rights reserved.
[7:20] <SwK> UnaClocker: notice my host mask?
[7:21] <jcath> any recommended light skin for raspberrypi? it seems that the default skin is a bit heavy for the raspberrypi
[7:21] <ParkerR> jcath, Skin?
[7:21] <SwK> UnaClocker: i give most of my software away for free
[7:21] <ParkerR> You mean theme or window/desktop amnager?
[7:21] <ParkerR> *manager
[7:21] <jcath> the xbmc skin, sorry.
[7:21] <SwK> UnaClocker: the only thing I ask is if you use it and patch it, send me the patches so we can consider including them
[7:22] <UnaClocker> SwK: You saw the hearts I designed, right?
[7:22] <ParkerR> jcath, Try out Raspbmc. Performance is much better than XBMC on a normal Raspbian install
[7:22] <SwK> UnaClocker: i dont think so
[7:22] <jcath> thanks,parkerr, I try both openelec and raspbmc. seems that openelec is better
[7:22] <SwK> UnaClocker: i saw that 'laptop'
[7:22] <SwK> that was good enough in my book
[7:23] <UnaClocker> http://www.neonsquirt.com/heart.jpg
[7:23] <UnaClocker> :)
[7:23] <ParkerR> jcath, Raspbmc final is very smooth
[7:23] <UnaClocker> Wearable PCB I designed..
[7:23] <SwK> looks nice
[7:23] <ParkerR> There goes UnaClocker with his trailing periods :P
[7:23] <jcath> the gui of raspbmc is based on x? or framebuffer?
[7:23] <UnaClocker> hehehe :)
[7:24] <SwK> now if only i had an oven to bake those in
[7:24] <ParkerR> jcath, Framebuffer
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[7:24] <UnaClocker> SwK: Same here.. I'm about to get one, as I just had a batch of 50 of those things made..
[7:25] <jcath> ok. I'll try both again. it seems that sometimes the default skin will block for a moment. I dont know if its loading the pics or anything else
[7:25] <UnaClocker> SwK: Action video.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0451AkQmvrg
[7:26] <UnaClocker> Though I had it running really slow when I shot that vid.. Looks a lot better with the speed kicked up a notch..
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[7:27] <SwK> looks pretty cool
[7:28] <SwK> UnaClocker: i would buy one
[7:28] <UnaClocker> :)
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[7:42] <mrmoney2012> wget reports my download speed as about this 672KB/s ???and speediest.net about 20 Mbps???. is that right?
[7:44] <ParkerR> mrmoney2012, It all depends on the server you are connecting to
[7:44] <ParkerR> wget is not an accurate speed testing mechanism
[7:44] <SwK> wget can be an ok test, but only if you are outputting the file to /dev/null
[7:44] <mrmoney2012> it was confusing me...
[7:44] <ParkerR> speedtest is only accurate if you run a few tests at different locations and average the results
[7:44] <SwK> else it includes overhead of writting to the filesystem
[7:44] <mrmoney2012> how do i get from KB/s to Mbps ?
[7:45] <ParkerR> mrmoney2012, Up top
[7:45] <ParkerR> Should be a settings link
[7:45] <mrmoney2012> i was expecting the results to tally (a bit at least)
[7:45] <ParkerR> But 20mbps is about 2-3MB/s
[7:45] <SwK> google convert XXX kilobytes/sec to megabits/sec
[7:45] <SwK> where XXX is KB/sec
[7:45] <mrmoney2012> yeah - i did this.. wget -O /dev/null http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/centos/6.3/isos/x86_64/CentOS-6.3-x86_64-LiveCD.iso
[7:46] <SwK> 672KB/s is like 5.25 megabit/sec
[7:46] <mrmoney2012> Swk - YES???! that's what i thought
[7:46] <mrmoney2012> like massively slower than speediest.net
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[7:47] <SwK> mrmoney2012: that anl.gov server is slow
[7:47] <mrmoney2012> oh??? ooops
[7:47] <mrmoney2012> my bad then.. will try another
[7:47] <SwK> try wget --output-document=/dev/null http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test500.zip
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[7:47] <mrmoney2012> basically it's 672 * 8 to get to Mbps - thanks
[7:48] <mrmoney2012> trying
[7:48] <mrmoney2012> nah.. still not right??? and i've tried a few
[7:48] <mrmoney2012> is wierd...
[7:48] <mrmoney2012> am on my macbook now doing wget --output-document=/dev/null http://speedtest.wdc01.softlayer.com/downloads/test500.zip
[7:49] <ParkerR> I'm htting about 1.7MB/s
[7:49] <mrmoney2012> it floats around 800 (so faster
[7:49] <SwK> i just got 33.5 MB/s from that link
[7:49] <ParkerR> SwK, I hate you :P
[7:49] <SwK> which I think is slow
[7:49] <mrmoney2012> but speediest.net in browser gives me north of 20 Mbps
[7:49] <SwK> 60.9 MB/s on a second test
[7:49] <ParkerR> SwK, O.o
[7:49] <ParkerR> Holy crap
[7:50] <mrmoney2012> every time (sky fibre) should be 40 Mbps down
[7:50] <SwK> ParkerR: i have a rack in a Central office w/ multiple Gig-E interconnects tho
[7:50] <ParkerR> SwK, Soooo wanna be friends? :P
[7:50] <SwK> ParkerR: I rent VPS space in the rack
[7:51] <mrmoney2012> thanks - though - i understand the speeds now at least
[7:52] <SwK> mrmoney2012: just keep in mind that wget and such doesnt always include TCP/IP overheads etc
[7:52] <mrmoney2012> but not to this extent surely ! 8Mbps versus 25Mbps ! (i don't get it at all)
[7:53] <xrosnight> is there any girl using RaspberryPi here?
[7:54] <ParkerR> xrosnight, Looking for a date? Haha
[7:54] <ParkerR> mrmoney2012, Again it all depends on the server
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[7:55] <ParkerR> And local/server overhead
[7:55] <ParkerR> Not ll servers are created equal
[7:55] <ParkerR> *all
[7:55] <SwK> not all interconnects are created equal either
[7:55] <xrosnight> ParkerR: Haha :) Since I am in China, I don't think there is possibilty to date someone on IRC :(
[7:56] <ParkerR> SwK, That too
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[7:58] <ParkerR> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2512049798.png
[7:58] <Torikun> Yo
[7:58] <ShiftPlusOne> xrosnight, yes, there are a few girls around here. Not myself, but they do pop up occasionally, so you're not alone.
[7:58] <ParkerR> Fun fact: The speed units in those pngs change based on a cookie setting
[7:58] <SwK> ParkerR: thats better then what I get at home lol
[7:58] <jcath> lol
[7:59] <jcath> I am in Beijing. but I am male
[7:59] <SwK> all I have to say is CenturyLink sucks
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[7:59] <xrosnight> jcath: ShiftPlusOne hi :) I am in Shandong
[7:59] <jcath> ??????
[8:00] <UnaClocker> heh, of course century link sucks, they changed their name twice in 10 years.. Maybe they're hiding from their bad reputation?
[8:00] <ParkerR> Got into an argument one time over the representation of the test in those pngs that you can share from speedtest. Argument ended when we both took screenshot of the same URL
[8:00] <SwK> lol
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[8:01] <ShiftPlusOne> xrosnight, is that where tsingtao/qingdao (the beer) comes from? =D
[8:02] <jcath> yes, tsingtao is a city in shandong province
[8:02] <SwK> UnaClocker: actually they didnt
[8:02] <UnaClocker> SwK: Well maybe it was just locally.. First it was USWest, then it was Qwest, now it's Century Link..
[8:02] <SwK> UnaClocker: they were CenturyTel for like 40 years then they went on a buying spree and changed to CenturyLink after they aquired qwest
[8:03] <SwK> UnaClocker: thats 3 different companies actually lol
[8:03] <SwK> <---- phone geek
[8:03] <ShiftPlusOne> Haven't been to Shandong myself, but when I was in China, I drank hell of a lot of beer from there. >.>
[8:03] <xrosnight> ShiftPlusOne: why you came to China :)
[8:03] <SwK> qwest bought USWest, and Qwest was inturn bought out by CenturyTel who renamed CenturyLink with the qwest purchase...
[8:04] <ShiftPlusOne> xrosnight, my brother used to live there for a while. I came to visit, but also did a bit of touristy stuff.
[8:04] <UnaClocker> USWest bought Qwest, changed their name to Qwest.. I thought CenturyTel was a baby bell, they only ever had one city in this state.. So I assumed Qwest bought them and again took the new name..
[8:04] <xrosnight> ShiftPlusOne: i see
[8:04] <jcath> friends, anyone try to connect some dvb tunner to the board with the gpio connector? is it possible?
[8:04] <SwK> UnaClocker: CenturyLink was a Major Rural ILEC player, they went on a spending spree over the past 5 or 6 years
[8:04] <UnaClocker> Weird.
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[8:05] <SwK> UnaClocker: where I live it's been CenturyTel since the 60's
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[8:06] <UnaClocker> Well I'm just happy to be free of a landline for good now.. I can actually CHOOSE a phone company.. What a concept.. :) Wish I could do the same for cable.. ;)
[8:06] <UnaClocker> cable internet that is, as I don't have cable TV.
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[8:06] <ShiftPlusOne> jcath, I am not sure, but I don't think gpio is fast enough for dvb.
[8:07] <ShiftPlusOne> So USB might be the best bet.
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[8:08] <jcath> usb is an alternative solution, right.
[8:08] <SwK> UnaClocker: I moving soon, and I cant wait to be free of a legacy centurytel network
[8:09] <jcath> I already have one wifi on usb port, and I want to attach a usb flash disk too. if I need more ,have to get a usb hub
[8:09] <SwK> its sad when I consult for CLECs but not in the region where I live, yet I still know several of centurytel's field techs and their "Plant Manager" for the area
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[8:10] <SwK> jcath: theres a ton o people running RTLSDR over USB w/ RPis
[8:11] <jcath> SwK, would you like to give me some link? thanks a lot!
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[8:12] <SwK> jcath: i ran across that usage just googling around
[8:13] <ShiftPlusOne> SwK, would they be using it succesfully for video though? I have the dongle myself and have played around with radio and video on the pc, but somehow I suspect video isn't going to work too well on a pi.
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[8:14] <SwK> ShiftPlusOne: most i have ran across are using it for the SDR capabilities
[8:14] <jcath> ok
[8:14] <ShiftPlusOne> yup, that's the fun part
[8:14] <SwK> ShiftPlusOne: one of the things I want to do is remote a rpi on a pole for ADS-B
[8:14] <ParkerR> Ok I don't think I have gone crazy. There used to be this little image that would dynamically generate from a user's browser user agent. Kinda like how speedtest does the result images
[8:15] <ParkerR> I cant for the life of me find that page that did the image
[8:15] <jcath> I worry about the computing capability. is it enough for sdr and video decoding
[8:15] <ParkerR> It would have a character holding a sign with the user agent info on it
[8:15] <ShiftPlusOne> SwK, that sounds awesome
[8:15] <ParkerR> One was Tux, and I think another was a caveman
[8:16] <SwK> jcath: not sure??? i see people using the the PRi as more of a raw data server then pushing the decode off to a full PC
[8:16] <xrosnight> anyone knows how to use weechat to move cursors between different columns
[8:16] <SwK> ShiftPlusOne: its an interesting concept??? the other is in the states to get GA Pilots to get ADS-B transcievers they are pushing datafeeds including weather radar and such??? the later is what really interests me
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[8:18] <SwK> i have heard of people being able to pull ADS-B beacons from like 250 miles away using RTLSDR on linux + a home make 1/4wave ground plane antenna based off a SO-239 connector
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[8:19] <Datalink> graa, I'm starting to hate partitionmagic >.<
[8:19] <ShiftPlusOne> are those the massive poles used as antennae?
[8:19] <ParkerR> Datalink, Why?
[8:20] <jcath> about the http live streaming. if there is a HLS server, that I dont need really seperate a video ts file into pieces? just put the one big ts file, but at user side, you can play it with m3u playlist, and seek well?
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[8:22] <Datalink> I have a filesystem that's gotta be 2.6 TB (community access station's media server) and according to gparted the partition is still 800 megs, but the partition's filling the full 2.6 TB
[8:22] <jcath> the server receive some parameters, (the segment, or time offset), and return that segment of ts.
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[8:22] <SwK> ShiftPlusOne: ADS-B is around 1090mhz, full wavelength is about 10.8 inches??? that means a 1/4 wave antenna is like 2.7 inches tall heh
[8:22] <ShiftPlusOne> oh, lol
[8:22] <ShiftPlusOne> fair enough
[8:23] <Datalink> as such I am very annoyed at the thing
[8:23] <SwK> ShiftPlusOne: but as with any LOS signal in the VHF/UHF bands, a taller (higher in the air) antenna the better
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[8:24] <ShiftPlusOne> Fair enough. Radio is kind of a foreign world to me, so I don't know much about it. I did a bit of comm eng, but it's not an easy subject.
[8:25] <SwK> analog is easy heh
[8:25] <ShiftPlusOne> I disagree >.>
[8:25] <ShiftPlusOne> But I guess everything is easy if you know what you're doing
[8:26] <jcath> you have to calculate this and that?????????
[8:26] <SwK> lamda (wavelength) = V/f where V = velocity (in radio waves the speed of light) and F is frequency
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[8:26] <jcath> anyone know some good LC filter design software? to design bandpass, bandstop, l/h pass filters
[8:26] <ShiftPlusOne> Yeah, that's high school physics though
[8:27] <SwK> ShiftPlusOne: analog is mostly high school physics heh
[8:27] <ShiftPlusOne> Lies, it gets much more complicated than that.
[8:27] <SwK> heh
[8:27] <SwK> nah
[8:27] <SwK> 1/2 the stuff is FM
[8:28] <SwK> (not Frequency Modulation, but F'n Magic)
[8:28] <ShiftPlusOne> heh
[8:28] <ShiftPlusOne> even FM is misleadingly complicated when you get into the maths and have to mess with fourier transforms.
[8:28] <SwK> heh
[8:28] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't remember much, but I remember hating calculating the outputs of filters, bandwidth and all of that.
[8:29] <SwK> I always found that part easy
[8:29] <SwK> i cant remember the math off the top of my head these days
[8:29] * SwK is getting old
[8:29] <ShiftPlusOne> Managed to get a good grade and found a lot of the concept interesting, but it's not my domain, so it has left my brain straight after the exam. >.>
[8:30] <SwK> jcath: google around, theres several web pages that you can pick high/low pass, knotch/whatever, then they give you fields for the freqs and they'll spit out LC values and if you should use like T or pi filters etc
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[8:32] <SwK> ShiftPlusOne: its like anything else, use it or lose it??? i used to be able to fix anything analog w/ an oscope, spectrum analyzer and a dvdm??? theses days its like now where they hell did I put the schematics for this board
[8:33] <SwK> or darn it, must google high pass filter for X-Mhz
[8:35] <jcath> swk, thanks. I have try some web based lc calculator. but they are not complex enough for my application
[8:36] <jcath> they one calculate the idea LC parameters
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[8:37] <jcath> when I was in school, we use a dos based software call touchstone or something similar to do the calculation
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[8:37] <jcath> more than ten years past, I forget most of that :(
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[8:38] <SwK> heh been a little longer then that for me
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[8:44] <ShiftPlusOne> SwK, so... since you're around, I may as well ask. I have a scope that's picking up about 10mV of noise and my signal of interest is about 15mV pk-pk centered near 0., so it's a bit hard to work with. I don't usually touch analog, so I am clueless here. What would be the best way to get it to the 0-5v range for use with an adc?
[8:45] <ShiftPlusOne> Do I have to mess around with a transistor, an opamp or are there some other ways?
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[8:50] <|Jeroen|> morning
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[8:56] <ShiftPlusOne> |Jeroen|, ahoy
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[9:00] <jcath> it is easy to build a amplifer with a op and two resistors
[9:00] <jcath> does your scope support input signal gain control?
[9:01] <jcath> or there is a switch on some scope's probe, 1x to 10x
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[9:01] <ShiftPlusOne> Yeah, I have 1x/10x probes and a menu to select which I am using on the scope.
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[9:02] <jcath> you may try different combination to see the result
[9:02] <ShiftPlusOne> Would using the 1x probe and telling the scope to adjust for 10x help? I would've thought it would amp the noise as well.
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[9:03] <jcath> so the noise come with the signal source?
[9:03] <ShiftPlusOne> It doesn't even amp anything, afaik, it just changes the values it displays to adjust accordingly. I may be wrong though.
[9:04] <jcath> or come from the probe?
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[9:05] <ShiftPlusOne> some of it is from the source, but most of it is from somewhere else, I am guessing the probe, yeah.
[9:05] <jcath> if it come from proble, you may add an amp before probe, after the source
[9:05] <jcath> if the freq is not so high, it is easy to build a amp with op, or bjt transistor
[9:06] <jcath> for Khz signals, you should try lm324, lm358
[9:06] <jcath> cheap and easy to build up
[9:06] <ShiftPlusOne> the pulsesof interest are about 3kHz
[9:06] <jcath> so it is a low frequency signal
[9:07] <jcath> how about the frequency of the noise? does your scope support FFT?
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[9:07] <ShiftPlusOne> Yes... now to find out how to use it.
[9:08] <jcath> if the noise is high freq, is it possible to filter it to ground with a cap? like 0.01uf or 0.1uf cer cap?
[9:08] <ShiftPlusOne> If it's from the probes, that wouldn't help, would it?
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[9:13] <ShiftPlusOne> Looking at the FFT, I am not seeing much difference between the signal and shorted leads, at least not anything obvious.
[9:14] <ShiftPlusOne> Thanks for the help though, I'll go play around with an lm358 and see how it goes.
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[9:28] <Aivaras> http://82.30.211.63/ my outside temperature monitoring is alive. Running from raspberrry. :)
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[9:44] <piney> Aivaras, nice. last jump looks like the sun just came up
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[9:55] <t3ch> hello, have anyone a good console line for capturing video0 :)
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[10:00] <Aivaras> piney, yeah, my sensor is pointed directly to sun, so I have large spikes :/
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[10:05] <Joeboy> Like a porcupine
[10:06] <martk100> My system crashes when I exit xbmc. Nothing in the xbmc or Xorg logs to indicate any problem. I am running my Pi on Archlinux.
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[10:58] <ShiftPlusOne> markedathome, something to do with scancodes, just a sec, I'll google.
[11:00] <ShiftPlusOne> markedathome, http://srv.datagutt1.com/index.php?date=2013-02-14 scroll down to 3:02 and check what parker says
[11:01] <ShiftPlusOne> "Whatever config file it loads (you can find the default or create one) add scancodes = false to it"
[11:03] <markedathome> thanks, once you'd posted about scancodes I then found a couple of pi forum posts. I'll try shortly.
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[11:10] <markedathome> setting usescancodes=true to usescancodes=false has fixed it. now for a complete timewaste in playing dune 2... :-)
[11:10] <markedathome> or maybe x-wing fighter
[11:11] <ShiftPlusOne> huzzah!
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[11:15] <markedathome> c.c.o.o.n.n.s.s.t.t.r.r.u.u.c.c.t.t.i.i.o.o.n....c.c.o.o.m.m.p.p.l.l.e.e.t.t.e.e..
[11:16] <markedathome> now to sort out the sound
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[11:18] <ShiftPlusOne> if you can
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[11:19] <ShiftPlusOne> might just be that the pi can't run it at full speed.
[11:19] <steve_rox> heh
[11:19] * gordonDrogon waves.
[11:19] <steve_rox> i ran red alert1 using dosbox on pi , did not go well
[11:20] <steve_rox> :-P
[11:20] * steve_rox waves back
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[11:28] <steve_rox> sleeping is hard
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[11:49] <Tachyon`> http://www.pokenet.co.uk/misc/images.random/traceroute.png
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[11:56] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/sw6.txt
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[12:04] <Tachyon`> oh, there's more than oen
[12:04] <Tachyon`> lol
[12:05] <Axman6> 'lo all, anyone know how to fix UPnP videos (from PS3 media server) not playing any video in XBMC? I've got audio, but all I see is the menu to select the videos. I can control it using the remote buttons, but just can't see video
[12:05] <Tachyon`> is empire strikes back in there at all?
[12:05] <Axman6> I've tried editing the PS3MC XBMC.conf to what I've found online, but that doesn't work either
[12:05] <nid0> its the same trace, just different target address and over ipv6
[12:05] <Tachyon`> then it's not the same damn trace
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[12:12] <reta> Hey, quick question, does the adapters listed as "requires powered USB hub" in the RPi VerifiedPeripherals list require a separate hub from the one included in the latest Raspberry Pi Model B Rev 2?
[12:14] <linuxstb> reta: Yes, that refers to needing the power from an external hub.
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[12:15] <linuxstb> Axman6: XBMC on the Pi doesn't support all the video formats that XBMC does elsewhere. Was that XBMC.conf for the Pi specifically?
[12:16] <reta> but external as in not the one included in the new RPi with 2 USB slots?
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[12:16] <Viper7> linuxstb: the pi only supports hardware playback for a few formats
[12:16] <reta> because it should be more powerful than the first version with just one port, so I figure maybe the list was for the initial RPi with just one, and less power
[12:16] <Viper7> it can do mpeg-2 and vc-1, but requires addon licences for the decoder to work
[12:17] <linuxstb> reta: No. The list was made long before the Model A was launched.
[12:17] <pksato> reta: all model B have 2 usb port.
[12:17] <linuxstb> The Model A is actually the second version.
[12:18] <reta> ok, but is does not change the fact that you will need a _external_ usb hub for the devices that requires one according to the list I mentioned?
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[12:23] <Axman6> linuxstb: yes
[12:23] <Axman6> (also sorry for the delay, trying more ideas to make it work)
[12:24] <Axman6> I can get the same video that's on the RPi to play, but all i get is audio over PS3MC
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[12:27] <t3ch> for capturing video do i need more ram than 16 for gpu? because the colors are strange when capturing with mencoder
[12:27] <ParkerR> Try it
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[12:32] <des2> reta the first version had 2 ports.
[12:32] <des2> The Model B was first.
[12:32] <linuxstb> Axman6: You mean the video works in XBMC on the Pi if you copy the file, but not if you use ps3mc?
[12:33] <Axman6> yep
[12:33] <Axman6> but of course, it's transcoding it when playing using PS3MS
[12:33] <linuxstb> Axman6: Why are you using ps3mc? You could simply share using nfs or samba.
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[12:35] <Axman6> not all my videos are h.264, so the midia server can transcode them on the fly for me
[12:36] <Axman6> media*
[12:36] <t3ch> with vlc it capture good colors
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[12:37] <linuxstb> Axman6: Then you need to fix the transcoding settings. But what format are they? The pi also supports MPEG-4 ASP (aka divx/xvid), and MPEG-2 if you have a license key.
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[12:40] <Axman6> ok, all fixed... just installed an older version of PS3MS, and it's working find. I wonder what they broke...
[12:42] <Macer> how odd that mpeg2 requires a license heh
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[12:43] <Macer> then again.. who would use it nowadays?
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[12:45] <Axman6> DVDs?
[12:45] <linuxstb> Digital TV
[12:45] <ryanteck> Morning
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[13:31] <biberao> hi
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[13:32] <moebius_eye> UTC+1 Morning everyone.
[13:32] <moebius_eye> (Well, it's 12:30 but anyway)
[13:32] <moebius_eye> Is there a channel dedicated to soldering?
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[13:38] <Matt> soldering?
[13:38] <Matt> that I doubt
[13:38] <dwatkins> #electronics at a guess
[13:38] <Matt> there *is* ##electronics
[13:40] <moebius_eye> Oh, yeah. :) Thanks
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[13:43] <lalu_> Hello
[13:46] <gordonDrogon> moebius_eye, soldering is easy & fun :)
[13:46] <gordonDrogon> Had some kids soldering up my ladder boards last week.
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[13:47] <lalu_> Does anyone know where to find naked screens like those in kindle or kobo readers ?
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> china - buy the shipping container load..
[13:50] <lalu_> yeah i ve found that :) but I would need just a few to work on a proto
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[14:19] <crenn> Timelapse of the print I did today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnFdck_1GK4 :D
[14:24] <dobra-dobra> crenn: Nice video.
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[14:28] <crenn> dobra-dobra: Thanks :D It's going to be slow progress (and the 2.5 hours to print those 4 parts are anything to go by) but hopefully I'll be powering my 3D printer by Pi!
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[14:30] <dobra-dobra> What printer are you building?
[14:30] <dobra-dobra> Or is it your own design?
[14:32] <crenn> Prusa i3 with a few variations
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[14:36] <crenn> dobra-dobra: http://pic.twitter.com/Vw4kXUDO http://pic.twitter.com/NWytm5V6
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[14:37] <dobra-dobra> crenn: :D
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[14:41] <aaa801> Is there any docs on converting from opengl to egl / es
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[14:44] <mrpaladin> anybody home?
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[15:06] <sadbox> So... My wife bought me a multimeter to go along with my pi for my birthday, but she wasn't really sure which one to get
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[15:06] <sadbox> She ended up getting a fluke 115, which from what I can tell is overkill for anything I'm going to be doing
[15:06] <malcom2073> Nothing wrong with overkill :-D
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[15:07] <Flexnard> agreed you never know what you'll do in the future so overkill can be good
[15:07] <malcom2073> Plus, "overkill" gets you accuracy
[15:07] <sadbox> Only question I have is: is it often at all that you end up needing to measure microamps? (or anything else that a fluke 116 provies)?
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[15:08] <malcom2073> Depends. Do you ever plan on designing a system to run off battery power, and you want to see how much power it's pulling in sleep mode?
[15:08] <jdiez> hey guys, does using a microsd->sd adapter affect performance?
[15:09] <Hodapp> jdiez: only in so much as most microSD not being particularly fast.
[15:09] <Hodapp> jdiez: protocol wise, it's all just SD.
[15:09] <jdiez> Hodapp: I see
[15:09] <jdiez> I'm having some issues with xbian/raspbmc
[15:09] <jdiez> not sure if they're performance related
[15:09] <sadbox> malcom2073: I don't think so
[15:09] <jdiez> but perhaps they are
[15:09] <malcom2073> Hmm, then sendit to me and buy a $20 walmart one :P
[15:09] <dwatkins> sadbox: I have a potato-powered clock that would benefit from a microamp measurement
[15:10] <jdiez> for example, I can only stream video from my NAS when the raspberry is connected through ethernet
[15:10] <jdiez> it recognises my usb wifi adapter but it "refuses" to stream video off it (it hangs indefinitely)
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[15:11] <dwatkins> jdiez: what are you using to access the files, NFS?
[15:11] <sadbox> Or, I guess to explain the difference better, given the choice between mailing a fluke 115 back + paying 30 bucks or just keeping it
[15:11] <jdiez> dwatkins: FTP/SMB
[15:11] <jdiez> probably not the best way to access them
[15:11] <jdiez> I should probably try with webdav
[15:11] <dwatkins> jdiez: perhaps there's a restricted list of IP addresses, at a guess. I'd go with NFS personally
[15:11] <dwatkins> sadbox: that Fluke meter looks superb, I'd keep it.
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[15:12] <sadbox> dwatkins: kk =P
[15:12] * dwatkins notes that it's one of the cheaper ones, despite being rather expensive
[15:12] <mrmoney2012> just connected a wii controller to my Pi, works great???. now what to do with it !!!
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[15:15] <rymate1234> mrmoney2012, emulation
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[15:17] <mrmoney2012> not sure if pima me supports it
[15:17] <mrmoney2012> pimame
[15:18] <mrmoney2012> pima me is good though
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[15:50] <mrpaladin> can anybody help me with setting up wireless kbd and mouse on Rpi?
[15:51] <Caleb> mrpaladin: plug in the dongle
[15:51] <mrpaladin> well I have a setup from adfruit, but it crashes when I use browser..
[15:52] <mrpaladin> i have hear that the apple bluestuff works, but wondering which dongle I need that doesn't interfere with the wifi
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[15:54] * mrpaladin 's OK I
[15:54] * mrpaladin 's OK I'll try later
[15:59] <|Jeroen|> just use a logitech
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[15:59] <|Jeroen|> it just works
[15:59] <Matt> I have a cheapy thing that cost me $35
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[16:00] <Matt> it's the a full qwerty keyboard and a thumb/finger type pointing device
[16:00] <Matt> about the size of an overgrown remote
[16:00] <Matt> it's not amazing, but it does the trick
[16:01] <|Jeroen|> i have one with an integraded touchpad also about 35$
[16:01] <|Jeroen|> full size keyb
[16:03] * Matt wanted something small
[16:03] <Matt> ultimately, it's intended for my media box
[16:03] <Matt> except said box doesn't yet exist :)
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[16:05] <|Jeroen|> the pi is my media box
[16:06] <Laurenceb_> the pi is my waifu
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[16:06] <|Jeroen|> whats a waifu ?
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[16:08] <roasted> I need to work on my pi a little bit today
[16:08] <roasted> it failed to play a rented DVD through an externally powered external DVD player
[16:08] <roasted> despite me purchasing and installing the extra codecs. <_<
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[16:08] <Laurenceb_> |Jeroen|: urban dictionary
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[16:23] <DeliriumTremens> i think i'll just dd my card to preserve all the stuff i installed then use rsnap to backup my specific folders
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[16:24] <Encrypt> DeliriumTremens, Good idea ;)
[16:24] <tb01110100> Hello, v0lZy.
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[16:25] <tb01110100> RaspberryPiBot:
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[16:30] <v0lZy> hi tb01110100
[16:31] <v0lZy> Ill brb, I need to go to the store
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[17:06] <Grievre> ewanmd: don't ask to ask
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[17:54] <pa1983> Anying. My network stopt working and I could not get it up so I rebooted. No post. Checked the SD card, no coruption that I could tell. Tryed again and again. Checked conenctions etc. Then I opend the case for my pi and checked the leds. Powerd it on with out the sd card then with the sd card and it boots again. Could it have overheated or somthing? My case have ventialtion holes in the bottom. Its a deltaco case similar in design
[17:54] <pa1983> to most of the plastic cases out there
[17:54] <pa1983> I was doing a file transfere when things went south. Could it be the polyfuse acting up due to usb loads?
[17:55] <pa1983> it have been running fine for 5 days strait sense I got it so a bit odd.
[17:56] <KiltedPi> Have you got a multimeter/voltmeter?
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[17:56] <KiltedPi> sometimes-
[17:56] <KiltedPi> despite what power supplies actually say-
[17:56] <KiltedPi> They output less or more than the described voltage (5v)
[17:56] <|Jeroen|> just solder it close
[17:57] <KiltedPi> is it a USB dongle you've connected?
[17:57] <pa1983> yea I have one. Bit broken tough atm :P
[17:57] <KiltedPi> Have you checked it with a direct cable?
[17:57] <KiltedPi> Like an ethernet cable right into your port.
[17:58] <pa1983> Yeas I have on for keaybord 50mAh and one TP nano addapter proebly 200mAh
[17:58] <pa1983> I have used that but I cant see how that would solv it not poosting at all
[17:58] <KiltedPi> Could be USB drivers for your dongle, that would mean you installed them before and forgot tho-
[17:58] <KiltedPi> So not v.likely. Possible your dongle is ka-put?
[17:59] <KiltedPi> Try an ethernet cable (LAN)
[17:59] <pa1983> problem was that ssh stopt working. Well then the network was down. I could not get it up ithere even when the usb dongel worked from all indications
[17:59] <pa1983> well it all works now again
[17:59] <KiltedPi> :))))
[17:59] <KiltedPi> Hah!
[17:59] <pa1983> took 5 minutes befor it poosted again
[17:59] <pa1983> I suspect somthing ran hot
[17:59] <pa1983> but it shuld not need active cooling and its all stock not overclocked
[18:00] <pa1983> it have ben running fine for 5 days installing stuff over wlan
[18:00] <KiltedPi> You using Raspbian?
[18:00] <pa1983> so its somthing with the pi it self
[18:00] <pa1983> no gentoo
[18:01] <pa1983> have booted fine every time from the first try so
[18:01] <pa1983> not posting instantly is strange.
[18:01] <pa1983> I dont know if the main polyfuse could have overheated
[18:01] <pa1983> but it so small it shuld reset pretty quicly I figure when the heat is spread trough the pcb
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[18:02] <pa1983> I have booted it many times so
[18:03] <pa1983> was just transfering kernel sources so I could compile consolekit properly
[18:03] <pa1983> when I rebooted I got no post like I normaly do
[18:03] <pa1983> just a no input signal on the screen
[18:04] <KiltedPi> Sounds like hardware, sure
[18:04] <KiltedPi> :(
[18:04] <KiltedPi> No POST. :(
[18:04] <pa1983> sd slot maby
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[18:05] <KiltedPi> OS booting?
[18:05] <pa1983> I dont know but if it was polyfuse it shuld have shut down I figure
[18:05] <KiltedPi> wait- you've a network problem?
[18:05] <KiltedPi> Or an OS?
[18:05] <Tea> Gentoo on a Pi? I hope you have distcc set up
[18:05] <KiltedPi> Is the ACT light on?
[18:05] <pa1983> network stoped working and I could not get it up. Rebooted and got no post at all
[18:06] <pa1983> act flickers now and power is on. Its booted again. Took 5 mins befor it wanted to post again
[18:06] <|Jeroen|> i also run gentoo on a pi, but i compile using qemu chroot and distcc
[18:06] <pa1983> well I have been thinking about that but Im in no hurry
[18:07] <pa1983> but when you reboot any computer and gets no post and the storage medium checks out theres something iffy
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[18:07] <pa1983> any way it have compiled a packadge for 3 days straite
[18:07] <pa1983> no problem
[18:07] <pa1983> if was overheating it shuld have don it then I figure
[18:08] <pa1983> well I got my 256Mb linux kernel sources from git over the wlan now completed
[18:08] <pa1983> very strange
[18:08] <pa1983> maby the sd card reader is fubar oin the pi it looks a bit sensetive
[18:10] <pa1983> I bought a card on the list of working sd cards so should not have corruptions with stock clocks. Well If it happens again I have to RMA the thing
[18:10] <pa1983> works fine now again after 5 min of cooldown so
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[18:26] <pa1983> |Jeroen|, so what dose your gentoo/pi do?
[18:26] <pa1983> server, desktop?
[18:26] <|Jeroen|> nothing atm
[18:26] <|Jeroen|> but its gonna be xbmc
[18:26] <pa1983> nice
[18:26] <|Jeroen|> and i am probalby gonna buy another one for home automation
[18:26] <pa1983> have a gentoo htpc for that already tough
[18:26] <v0lZy> btw
[18:27] <v0lZy> anyone know how to get xbmc to switch UDP streams faster?
[18:27] <pa1983> I have emerged jwm and xorg. took only like 12h
[18:27] <|Jeroen|> me to, but a pi is only 5w, there is no cheaper htpc to run
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[18:27] <pa1983> well I got my HTPC 5-6 years ago so :P
[18:27] <pa1983> was no cheap option then
[18:28] <pa1983> bit upgraded sense tough
[18:28] <pa1983> was back when Athlon 64 X2 still was AMD's fastest dualcores hehe
[18:28] <|Jeroen|> its cheaper to replace it, then keep it running
[18:29] <pa1983> started with a singelcore 4000+ but it could not do h264 with the codecs of the day
[18:29] <tdy> 64x2 was my newest desktop until 1 month ago
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[18:29] <pa1983> well I run mostly HD stuff with DTS etc so the pi would die :P
[18:29] <tdy> used that thing forever
[18:29] <|Jeroen|> no pa1983, that works fine on a pi
[18:29] <pa1983> my father still uses a X2 6400+
[18:29] <pa1983> |Jeroen|, well not the encodes I have access to
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[18:30] <pa1983> unless you do all DTS encoding on the reciver
[18:30] <pa1983> *decoding
[18:30] <|Jeroen|> dts is passed to the tv
[18:30] <pa1983> I know
[18:30] <pa1983> hoppfully it is :D
[18:30] <pa1983> but my HTPC pulls 5W idle
[18:30] <pa1983> in standby
[18:31] <pa1983> Uses Athlon II X2 240W 45W TDP and a GT520 that pulls like 3W during decoding so its not that bad. 80+ PSU
[18:31] <markedathome> can omxplayer run in a window, or is it only fullscreen? or can I run accellerated mplayer (have the licenses)
[18:31] <pa1983> probelm is finding a small enough PSU to get the best efficensy
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[18:31] <|Jeroen|> are you sure about that?
[18:32] <|Jeroen|> i would guess that setup is more like 70w
[18:32] <pa1983> |Jeroen|, also I have the bug where I need to run usb 1.1 so my network preofrmance is crippled atm
[18:32] <pa1983> that or no keyboard :P
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[18:32] <KiltedPi> Ppl have been warning me away from trying to use a "digital photo frame" as a display for my pi- they keep saying the refresh rate is rubbish on them
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[18:32] <pa1983> |Jeroen|, I got power meters and UPS's that can show the numbers
[18:32] <KiltedPi> I'm tempted to buy one anyway
[18:33] <pa1983> but its 5W standby and I know from proper reviews that a GT520 pulls 3-5W HD decoding. Its rated at max 29W TDP but Its not like one would try to run games on that card :D
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[18:33] <pa1983> I cool my Athlon II X2 i the server passivly :P
[18:34] <|Jeroen|> well, my 5w pi plays all i have perfectly so
[18:34] <|Jeroen|> don't even turn it off
[18:34] <pa1983> 45W TDP parts are pretty low powerd most of the time and XBMC never uses more then 10% of a core it the card can do the decoding so then it runs at even lower voltage and 800Mhz or 1Ghz I belive
[18:34] <pa1983> |Jeroen|, well I toul make sens If i dident allready have a HTPC
[18:35] <pa1983> plus the reciver do not have HDMI its to old
[18:35] <pa1983> need optical or coaxial
[18:35] <|Jeroen|> ow
[18:35] <|Jeroen|> that would be trouble
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[18:35] <pa1983> reminds me I need to upgrade to latest xbmc on the HTPC
[18:36] <pa1983> HTPC have a 40Gb SSD only. Gbit lan to the filserver
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[18:36] <pa1983> two bequiet 80mm fans at 450rpm :D gota love asus and there fan profiles. made a custom one with 4V up to say 65C CPU temp or somthing.
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[18:37] <pa1983> got a big 120mm fan and cooler, the low profile one from sytche so it never revs up even if you compile on the thing
[18:38] <pa1983> Maby I need to adda fan to my pi to if its gona missbehave :P
[18:38] <pa1983> I dont know what they say about case recomendations for the Pi
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[18:38] <pa1983> got the black deltaco one. got vent holes in the bottom at least
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[18:39] <pa1983> but I cant see the real need, the pi is a mobile phone more or less and they never require active cooling :P
[18:40] <|Jeroen|> i did pimp mine with heat sinks
[18:40] <|Jeroen|> also overclocked to 900
[18:41] <double-you> I also use heatsinks, closed case, never gotten above 50??C
[18:42] <|Jeroen|> i just made them from an old videocard
[18:43] <mrmoney2012> anyone got RC servo working with pi-blaster or servo blaster ?
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[18:50] <elek> just stumbled on this http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315091 <- edimax EW-7811Un wireless $10 shipped
[18:51] <|Jeroen|> thats cheap
[18:51] <elek> yup
[18:52] <mrmoney2012> sudo echo 0=0 > /dev/servoblaster ??? servo no move.. grrr
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[19:09] <pa1983> |Jeroen|, Got JWM up and running :D
[19:09] <pa1983> Finaly a GUI.
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[19:10] <|Jeroen|> lol, did you compile everything on the pi whitout distcc?
[19:10] <pa1983> yes
[19:10] <mrpaladin> ijeroent: re kbd from this am: does your wireless kbd also have a mouse?
[19:10] <pa1983> problem was not xorg or JWM it took like 12h only
[19:10] <pa1983> stock speeds
[19:11] <|Jeroen|> mrpaladin, yes its a logitech K400
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[19:11] <pa1983> |Jeroen|, webkit-gtk was the killer. tock like 3 days at least to compile
[19:11] <|Jeroen|> i did most compiling in my qemu chroot on fast quad core pc
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[19:12] <pa1983> |Jeroen|, well I havea 3930K @ 4Ghz but well qemu is so slow I would probebly run a gentoo intall from vertualbox and use crossdev and distcc instead
[19:12] <|Jeroen|> pa1983, i use qemu-user chroot combined with distcc
[19:13] <pa1983> And I dont get why there is no qemu for android with arm support. why x86 emulation when it shuld be faster to run arm nativly
[19:14] <pa1983> |Jeroen|, any way it took 4 days to get jwm, claws-mail and midori and its dependencys compiled plus all my stuff I need to interface the pi with my network properly
[19:14] <|Jeroen|> huh?
[19:14] <pa1983> so not to bad I was thinking more like 7+
[19:14] <pa1983> days
[19:14] <|Jeroen|> your a paitient man
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[19:14] <pa1983> |Jeroen|, there are android emulators for x86 based on qemu. But its funny that qemu can run arm isa on x86 but you cant run arm nativly on arm in any qemu based vertual pc for android
[19:15] <pa1983> well one can do other stuff instead of watching the screen all day :D
[19:15] <|Jeroen|> pa1983, why would you need to do that?
[19:15] <|Jeroen|> you can just chroot into a different env
[19:15] <pa1983> |Jeroen|, would it not be fun to run gentoo on any android device with out rooting the thing?
[19:15] <pa1983> I know but not as fun
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[19:16] <pa1983> I want my image and boot it on any device from my filservers
[19:16] <|Jeroen|> lol, you have a strang sense of fun
[19:16] <pa1983> |Jeroen|, but is it not ilogical that there is no antive arm support in ANY qemu app for android?
[19:17] <pa1983> I mean why run dam small linux with x86 emulation? You know how slow that is. Its not even usable with a tegra 3 and running kernel 2.2 with JWM
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[19:17] <|Jeroen|> i find it quite logical, dev's use qemu on there fast pc's instead
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[19:18] <pa1983> well I want to run gentoo arm from an image on my nexus 7 vut I cant. i can root it and run it that way but thats no fun
[19:18] <|Jeroen|> why isn't that fun?
[19:18] <|Jeroen|> rooting is fun
[19:18] <pa1983> I know wmware is in development to do just that. Dont know when and if it will be released tough
[19:18] <pa1983> I like to separate my enviorments
[19:19] <pa1983> more sequre
[19:19] <pa1983> And I can run it on any device at any time
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[19:19] <pa1983> any way I just find it od that they have no arm support so you could run stuff nativly in a vertual machine
[19:20] <pa1983> one could run other OS also. Not all OS are based on the linux kernel
[19:20] <pa1983> I just like to have the option of doing so
[19:21] <|Jeroen|> still, most people experimate on a pc, not a phone
[19:21] <|Jeroen|> there is no need for it, therefor it doesn't exist
[19:21] <pa1983> well i dont ned a phone jsut a tablet
[19:22] <pa1983> butr theres 0 use to run x86 os on a android device ithere, no arm processor fast enough any way so
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[19:23] <pa1983> All Im saying is that if you want to run linux in qemu app on android native arm support would make more sens then run slow x86 emulation at 1/100 the speed
[19:24] <pa1983> and its not like windows 98 runs smooth ithere.
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[19:25] <|Jeroen|> yeah, but x86 exist beceaus it was already in qemu
[19:25] <mjr> well, you already can run a gnu/linux arm userland in a chroot on an android device...
[19:25] <|Jeroen|> it wasn't made to run x86 on arm
[19:26] <pa1983> any way Id just like a arm virtual machine
[19:26] <pa1983> for android
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[19:27] <|Jeroen|> then you better start programming one :-p
[19:27] <pa1983> na
[19:27] <pa1983> I hope the wmware one is coming
[19:27] <pa1983> they have showed of one
[19:27] <pa1983> last year
[19:27] <pa1983> but there where some indications you need to get a android device with it preinstalled or somthing
[19:27] <|Jeroen|> dunno, there is not much commercial intrest in that
[19:28] <pa1983> similar to how ubuntu will only come on preinstalled devices
[19:28] <pa1983> |Jeroen|, well when have everything people program been for profit alone?
[19:28] <pa1983> half the android apps are made by people becuse they can
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[19:29] <|Jeroen|> yeah, but there's a difference between a stupid app, and a full virtual machine system
[19:29] <pa1983> I probebly get a tablet in the future and installs gentoo on it and get rid of android jsut for fun
[19:29] <|Jeroen|> you can't just make that in a few days
[19:29] <pa1983> |Jeroen|, I know
[19:30] <pa1983> Im jsut woundering how much work there would be to nativly run arm on an arm android device considering thet qemu can emulate arm isa on x86 isa
[19:30] <pa1983> But Im no expert
[19:31] <pa1983> One can always wish :D
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[19:33] <|Jeroen|> drink a DT while you wait for DD
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[19:45] <martk100> Does xbmc stop the xserver
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[19:47] <Amadiro> martk100, it should not, no
[19:47] <Amadiro> but having the xserver running in the background may eat a lot of additional resources, in addition to xbmc already being very overweight.
[19:47] <hobo> so does anybody actually use their pi to stream 1080p?
[19:48] <martk100> Amadiro: When I exit xbmc. The only way into my Pi is to tty back in. Is this normal? I run archlinux.
[19:48] <Amadiro> martk100, have you tried looking through all the VTs? X is typically on VT7
[19:49] <martk100> Amadiro: What are VTs.
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[19:49] <martk100> Amadiro: Sorry you mean ctrl-alt-7.
[19:50] <martk100> Amadiro: That does noot get me back in.
[19:50] <Amadiro> martk100, I mean ctrl-alt-F1 to ctrl-alt-F12
[19:50] <mrpaladin> Ijeroenl: did it come with its own dongle? did you need any special srivers to make it work? have you used it with the browser?
[19:50] <Amadiro> (if you're already on a VT, "alt-F7" will suffice, and you can go left/right with alt-left/right)
[19:50] <mrpaladin> er drivers
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[19:52] <martk100> Amadiro: I ahve onlr tried ctrl alt-f7 not alt-f7. I must try .
[19:53] <Amadiro> martk100, you can also try "pgrep X", if that returns something, X is still running
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[19:54] <martk100> Amadiro: Ok failing that is it possible to make the xserver restart when xbcm exits?
[19:54] <Amadiro> sure
[19:55] <martk100> Amadiro: In the xbmc script?
[19:55] <Amadiro> martk100, that may be a way to do it, yes
[19:55] <Amadiro> I would just do "xbmc; startx"
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[19:57] <martk100> Amadiro: Ok thanks . Lots to think about. I am going out now.
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[19:58] <jdiez> what do you guys use to use your pi as a media center? xbmc?
[19:58] <jdiez> it lags quite a bit
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[19:58] <Amadiro> jdiez, IME it gets better if you have a very fast SD-card and you overclock it.
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[19:59] <Amadiro> but I tend to just use omxplayer from the command-line
[19:59] <jdiez> Amadiro: not sure whether that's the problem, I get frequent hangs when accessing the network
[19:59] <jdiez> I'm trying to build a media center that the whole family can use, commandline is kind of out of the question :P
[20:00] <Amadiro> jdiez, you might have to build something yourself, then
[20:00] <jdiez> yep, I think so too
[20:01] <jdiez> how much overclock is officially supported?
[20:01] <DeliriumTremens> ugh, rsnapshot doesn't like backing up to a NFS mount...
[20:01] <Amadiro> jdiez, if you're going to draw a GUI over a running videostream, make sure you give the GPU at least 128MiB RAM and select a higher layer in dispmanx.
[20:02] <Amadiro> jdiez, it gives details in the wiki on that
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[20:02] <jdiez> Amadiro: I was thinking of something with qt and python, although that mightn't be a great idea
[20:02] <Amadiro> jdiez, I don't know if qt works
[20:02] <Amadiro> I mean, it works under X for sure, but that's really slow
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[20:03] <Amadiro> and you can't draw Qt over a videostream
[20:03] <Amadiro> or anything X-related, really
[20:03] <Amadiro> but I think someone demoed some alternative solution that uses Qt with GLES or so
[20:04] <DeliriumTremens> (????????????)???????????????
[20:04] <DeliriumTremens> guess i'll just manually DD from time to time
[20:04] <markedathome> is raspbian apt-get down at the moment?
[20:05] <DeliriumTremens> until i can figure out why rsnapshot has such a beef with backing up to a NFS share
[20:05] <Amadiro> markedathome, works for me. try a different mirror.
[20:05] <xiambax> ??????????????( ?? _ ?????)
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[20:11] <_pash> is there any way to check the delivery status of my raspberry?
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[20:14] <Amadiro> call whoever you ordered it from, I guess?
[20:15] <xiambax> If you log into newark
[20:15] <xiambax> it'll say backordered
[20:15] <xiambax> most likely.
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[20:16] <SebastianFlyte> Any idea what the typical Newark backorder time is (I ordered my Pi from them about a week ago)
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[20:19] <pa1983> gha now I get segmentation fault on midori. Seems arh users have the same problem
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[20:20] <tonsit> SebastianFlyte: i ordered mine late january and got it on the 5th of feb
[20:20] <tonsit> so at that time it was just over a week
[20:20] <pa1983> any one know the cause? GTK2 maby?
[20:20] <_pash> i have an order reference number xiambax Amadiro
[20:20] <xiambax> SebastianFlyte: all depends.
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[20:20] <xiambax> I ordered mine on Amazon. Paid 60 bucks, but it came in two days
[20:20] <xiambax> So i have one.
[20:20] <xiambax> Then I ordered three more from newark
[20:20] <Amadiro> pa1983, run it through GDB and you'll see
[20:21] <tonsit> heh, i ordered one from newark and one from ebay at the same time, got them 4 days apart :d the ebay one in 3 days
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[20:21] <tonsit> $5 more from ebay :p
[20:21] <xiambax> I think it has a lot to do with what country you are in
[20:21] <tonsit> well newark ships to the us
[20:21] <tonsit> so i assumed we were talking us
[20:21] <xiambax> American customers seem to get theirs faster
[20:22] <Amadiro> I'm in norway and got mine in a matter of 4 days or so
[20:22] <tonsit> nice
[20:22] <scummos> I ordered from farnell and it took like three weeks
[20:22] <scummos> but ok
[20:22] <scummos> I can live with that
[20:22] <Amadiro> The latest batch I ordered arrived in 5 days, I think (but that was 10 pieces)
[20:23] <tonsit> planting a raspberry farm?
[20:23] <tonsit> protip: dont water them, they won't grow :d
[20:23] <pa1983> Amadiro, I foudn the fault. its jit flag on webkit
[20:23] <Amadiro> heh
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[20:23] <pa1983> Amadiro, just a 48 recompile :P
[20:23] <xiambax> Newark keeps adjusting my ship date.
[20:23] <xiambax> But apparently mine will ship out on the 19th
[20:23] <Amadiro> pa1983, well, without JIT it will be a *lot* slower
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[20:23] <pa1983> Why dose it have to be the slowest crap to emergie
[20:23] <xiambax> I made my order on the 6th
[20:23] * chupacabra ordered from newark yesterday
[20:23] <pa1983> Amadiro, well they say disabling java works so that could be a work around to
[20:23] <Amadiro> pa1983, you could try chromium as an alternative
[20:23] <tonsit> i hear mcm is in stock
[20:24] <ech0s7> i have configurated raspberry as wifi access point
[20:24] <Amadiro> pa1983, try that first, then
[20:24] <tonsit> and ships to us within days
[20:24] <ech0s7> installing hostapd
[20:24] <ech0s7> and running this script http://ideone.com/JUYl3h
[20:24] <ech0s7> the raspberry currently takes the Internet by eth0
[20:24] <ech0s7> i woudl change and share ppp0 connection (3g connection)
[20:24] <pa1983> Amadiro, well I want it ligth. Maby surf works properly but if the problem is in webkit then that might segafault to
[20:24] <ech0s7> I was able to connect to the 3G network
[20:24] <ech0s7> but if i connect to raspberry access point i can't go on the internet
[20:24] <ech0s7> why ?
[20:25] <hobo> anybody know about voltage step up chips, or where i should go look for more info
[20:25] <tonsit> dhcp settings? try static?
[20:25] <Amadiro> pa1983, well, if you have a 512MiB RAM version, chromium could work well enough, just try it, I guess.
[20:25] <pa1983> ech0s7, 3G dongels use a lot of power from my experience. dose it have its own power supply?
[20:25] <ech0s7> tonsit: how ?
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[20:25] <ech0s7> yes pa1983
[20:25] <pa1983> Amadiro, Its brand new 512Mb yes
[20:25] <pa1983> well I try the java trick first see how fare I get with that.
[20:25] <ech0s7> pa1983: dedicated power
[20:26] <chupacabra> ech0s7, you got the correct gateway?
[20:26] <tonsit> echo0s7: I am not sure how familiar you are with networking, but if you are expecting dhcp to pick up the gateway and dns, it might be picking it up incorrectly or not at all
[20:26] <pa1983> ech0s7, I have only set up 3G manualy on older ubuntu isntalls where they lacked native support but my memory sucks. I dont use it my self.
[20:26] <ech0s7> chupacabra: from raspberry i could ping google (with 3g)
[20:26] <tonsit> that doesn't mean you have the right one
[20:26] <ech0s7> dns server are setted fine
[20:26] <ech0s7> on /etc/resolv.conf
[20:27] <tonsit> i can similate your problems with a variety of configurations :d
[20:27] <chupacabra> cool. do you have forwardering gw set on incoming?
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[20:28] <ech0s7> chupacabra: yes
[20:28] <ech0s7> chupacabra: this is what i do
[20:28] <ech0s7> start raspberry, connect to 3G with sakis
[20:28] <ech0s7> and after run this script
[20:28] <ech0s7> http://ideone.com/JUYl3h
[20:29] <ech0s7> sakis set properly /etc/resolv.conf fine, with my operator DNS
[20:29] <ech0s7> (sakis3g script)
[20:30] <ech0s7> at boot i launch service hostapd start
[20:30] <ech0s7> my pc sees the wifi, connects to raspberry hosted wifi
[20:30] <ech0s7> but from pc i can't go on Internet
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[20:31] <pa1983> Amadiro, disabling scripts seems to work. Not gona recompile untill theres a propper fix
[20:31] <ech0s7> I can not understand what I'm missing
[20:31] <ech0s7> chupacabra
[20:31] <Amadiro> pa1983, yes, if the error is JIT-related, deactivating javascript would fix it.
[20:31] <tonsit> echo0s7, what os is your pc running?
[20:31] <Amadiro> although that probably makes most websites unusable
[20:32] <pa1983> ech0s7, you dould use googles dns isntead "nameserver 8.8.8.8" I prefer that
[20:32] <_21h_> hi all. anybody have library for ds1302?
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[20:32] <ech0s7> pa1983: tried
[20:32] <pa1983> Amadiro, well google.com and youtube loads fine atm
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[20:32] <pa1983> Amadiro, have more stuff to configure atm any way so take that problem later
[20:33] <ech0s7> tonsit: i have tried with windows, android, iphone, mac os
[20:33] <tonsit> ech0s7: do you know if you have a dhcp server listening on your rpi?
[20:33] <Amadiro> pa1983, many sites such as twitter rely on javascript and probably won't work well or at all without
[20:33] <Amadiro> pa1983, but you'll see
[20:34] <ech0s7> tonsit: i haven't it
[20:34] <tonsit> echo0s7: maybe i got sidetracked does your pi see the internet?
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[20:34] <ech0s7> yes tonsit
[20:34] <pa1983> Amadiro, I know what usualy dont works with out java :P
[20:34] <Amadiro> pa1983, javascript, not java
[20:34] <tonsit> ech0s7: if you dont have a dhcp server, you will need to install one that can handle your wlan connections
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[20:35] <pa1983> I do wounder if its jit falg in webkit-gtk if that affect surf to then
[20:35] <Amadiro> pa1983, totally different things.
[20:35] <tonsit> ech0s7: or configure things static.
[20:35] <pa1983> Amadiro, aha yes gopt it
[20:35] <pa1983> *got
[20:35] <mrmoney2012> anyone got an RC servo working with ServoBlaster - i can't get my servo to move - grrr???
[20:35] <Amadiro> pa1983, the JIT is not in webkit or has anything to do with it directly as such
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[20:36] <ech0s7> tonsit: set static in /etc/network/interfaces
[20:36] <ech0s7> ?
[20:36] <Amadiro> I don't know what javascript engine midori uses, though
[20:36] <tonsit> echo0s7: thats part of it, static ip can be complicated if you are inexperienced. dhcp is automatic assigning of ips
[20:36] <tonsit> i use dhcp even though i can do static.
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[20:37] <tonsit> you would need to set up your wlan interface with a static ip, probably 192.168.137.1
[20:37] <tonsit> and then configure any clients as 192.168.137.x where X is their speicifc ip
[20:37] <pa1983> Amadiro, do you think surf web browser would be effected then to?
[20:37] <Amadiro> pa1983, from what?
[20:37] <jdiez> hmmm...is this normal? http://paste.pm/4j9.txt
[20:38] <jdiez> xbian shows only 148MB on my model b
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[20:38] <pa1983> Amadiro, if it also would suffer from the same problem sens it also uses webkit-gtk or if its unrelated?
[20:38] <ech0s7> tonsit: share ppp0 works well with bridge ?
[20:38] <Amadiro> jdiez, depends on how much memory you gave the GPU
[20:38] <pa1983> Im no expert on software
[20:39] <ech0s7> or i have to use nat ?
[20:39] <ech0s7> because for share eth0 connection i run this
[20:39] <pa1983> I could probebly unmask latest medori in portage to
[20:39] <ech0s7> http://ideone.com/JUYl3h
[20:39] <tonsit> Natch:
[20:39] <tonsit> ack
[20:39] <tonsit> ech0s7: nat
[20:39] <Amadiro> pa1983, no, its a problem in the javascript engine, so something else that uses webkit-gtk would likely not be affected, unless it also uses the same js engine
[20:39] <jdiez> Amadiro: I didn't change the defaults... here's my config.txt: http://paste.pm/4ja.txt
[20:39] <tonsit> if you want to act like a bridge
[20:39] <tonsit> static ip is very easy
[20:40] <tonsit> assign 192.168.137.1 to your wlan0
[20:40] <pa1983> Amadiro, migth be worth trying to unmask the usntable medori version then. ARch users reported that the latest git worked
[20:40] <pa1983> jsut want the "best sulution" so to speak :P
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[20:40] <tonsit> tell your pc to use 192.168.137.100, dns w/e 8.8.8.8 or your router, and then gateway as your router
[20:41] <ech0s7> tonsit: but i woudl use raspberry as accesspoint
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[20:41] <tonsit> ok, then you need NAT
[20:41] <tonsit> dhcp does NAT for ya
[20:41] <tonsit> or can
[20:41] <tonsit> it simplifies nat i should say.
[20:41] <pa1983> Amadiro, thanks for the input I have some stuff to fix now then :D
[20:42] <mrmoney2012> if i do cat /proc/cpuinfo it gives me???. BogoMIPS : 464.48
[20:42] <mrmoney2012> why would that be -- 464 ??
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[20:43] <tonsit> ech0s7: i think this link would be relevant to your needs -- http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2929
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[20:43] <Amadiro> pa1983, good luck.
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[20:44] <Amadiro> jdiez, that checks out, then
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[20:44] <ech0s7> tonsit: but now it works well as accesspoint if raspberry get internet from eth0
[20:44] <jdiez> Amadiro: okay, well.
[20:45] <jdiez> Amadiro: I'll try openELEC, xbmc doesn't seem to play nice with my setup
[20:45] <Amadiro> mrmoney2012, the kernel determines this value at startup by checking how many times per second your CPU can execute the NOP instruction
[20:45] <jdiez> Amadiro: openELEC is lighter, correct?
[20:45] <tonsit> ech0s7: i thought the problem was that it wasn't sharing the internet with other devices?
[20:45] <ech0s7> but if rpi get internet from ppp0 so rpi doesn't works anymore as access poiint
[20:45] <ech0s7> yes tonsit
[20:45] <tonsit> ok
[20:45] <Amadiro> mrmoney2012, so that means in this particular case, your kernel determined that your CPU managed to execute the NOP instruction 464 000 000 times per second
[20:45] <Amadiro> jdiez, openELEC is also xbmc
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[20:46] <Amadiro> but it's a more lightweight distro around it, I suppose
[20:46] <jdiez> Amadiro: oh I see...
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[20:46] <mrmoney2012> so it's not the clock speed ?
[20:47] <mrmoney2012> how i lock the clock speed to a value e.g. 700Mhz, and then determine on reboot if it worked
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[20:48] <tonsit> ech0s7: with my current set up, my RPI connects to my win7 pc for internet which I am using to do NAT and DHCP for my pi
[20:48] <tonsit> i am still able to use my win7 pc as i am doing right now :)
[20:48] <tonsit> that is your goal right?
[20:48] <Amadiro> mrmoney2012, no, instruction operation speed is usually not directly related to clock speed on most modern CPUs -- they usually execute less than one instruction per cycle (but sometimes more, its very complicated)
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[20:48] <tonsit> backwards
[20:48] <tonsit> but the same
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[20:49] <mrmoney2012> i thought cat /proc/cpuinfo was a good way to determine clock speed but seems not
[20:49] <mrmoney2012> so where do i find it
[20:49] <Amadiro> mrmoney2012, try vcgencmd measure_clock arm
[20:49] <Amadiro> that tells you the frequency of the arm core
[20:50] <mrmoney2012> ok, thanks, reports frequency(45)=700074000
[20:50] <Amadiro> you can also ask it for the frequency of core, h264. isp, v3d, uart, pwm, emmc, pixel, vec, hdmi and dpi
[20:50] <ech0s7> tonsit: i would that rpi connect to internet using 3g usb dongle, and share connection over wlan0 as access point (i have another usb dongle attached on rpi)
[20:50] <Amadiro> core being the clock frequency of the dual-core VideoCore IV graphics-card
[20:50] <tonsit> ech0s7: this article explains NAT in far more detail and can start you in creating your static ip tables. a tool for you :) http://www.cisco.com/en/US/tech/tk648/tk361/technologies_tech_note09186a0080093f31.shtml
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[20:52] <Amadiro> mrmoney2012, you can also use measure_volts to measure the voltage of something
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[20:54] <mrmoney2012> my servo aint turning anyway - think i will abort
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[20:56] <tonsit> ech0s7: thanks for your questions btw, that Pi Point thing can automate it all and seems pretty sweet haha :) it runs on raspbian
[20:56] <tonsit> i'm gonna use it to repeat my wifi signal cause its weak in the basement
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[21:02] <TAFB_afk> my internet speeds are getting so crazy I'm going to need some powerful wireless equipment to use it's full speed :( http://www.speedtest.net/result/2502967572.png
[21:03] <ewanmd> using usb gps, shows up as ttyUSB0 set to 9600 o.k. on ubuntu laptop but shows as rubbish on Rpi, tested using miniterm, any ideas please anyone?
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[21:05] <pksato> ewanmd: plug, and do dmesg command, last messages show device name of pluged device.
[21:05] <markedathome> what does gpsd say?
[21:05] <pksato> but, if you not have other usb serial, on rpi is too ttyUSB0
[21:06] <ewanmd> used dmesg to check right com port, if I startx and use cutecom I get x00/0 loads of times, check baud rate is correct
[21:07] <ewanmd> the gpsd monitor prog closes after a couple of secs then gps timeout, tried a reboot.
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[21:08] <ewanmd> TAFB_atk, just plug your pri into one of these :) http://www.ubnt.com/airfiber
[21:09] <reta> sooo does the led on the RPi indicate something?
[21:09] <reta> it's only red and it won't boot
[21:10] <markedathome> dp you have anything plugged into the ethernet port?
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[21:11] <ech0s7> tonsit: :)
[21:11] <markedathome> *do
[21:11] <ech0s7> but for now doesn't works :)
[21:11] <reta> yeah a tp cable
[21:11] <reta> not a toilet paper one
[21:11] <markedathome> then yes, you should see something on the lnk / fdx /100 lights
[21:11] <reta> feel's like something is corrupt
[21:12] <markedathome> is it headless?
[21:12] <pksato> reta: from jack do edge, act, pwr, fd, lnk and 100m
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[21:13] <pksato> ff (full duplex), lnk (link) and 100M are from network interface.
[21:14] <markedathome> aggh,... xsane - permission denied ; sudo xsane happy as larry
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[21:15] <pksato> act indicate SD activity, if it not flash, have a problem.
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[21:17] <Amadiro> markedathome, your user is probably not in the correct group
[21:17] <reta> first boot with openelec worked fine, second try with xbian and third try with raspbmc didn't work.. nothing happened and led was just red (have case on, can't see which one is lit atm)
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[21:17] <reta> trying openelec again, exact same procedure as first time.... fingers crossed
[21:17] <ewanmd> any ideas about my gps problem please anyone?
[21:18] <pksato> ewanmd: power issues.
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[21:19] <markedathome> ewanmd gpsd should be absolutely bulletproof when it comes to finding and using gps devices.
[21:20] <markedathome> should it be scanner or saned in the group?
[21:21] <ewanmd> thanks, think i will try a powered hub then.
[21:22] <isasha> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BDPQ1hsCAAAsUKv.jpg:large
[21:22] <reta> anyone using the D-Link DWA-131 wifi dongle with their RPi?
[21:23] <tonsit> [15:09] (reta) sooo does the led on the RPi indicate something?: it indicates power is on? theres an ACT light that indicates activity on the sd card, if that isn't blinking it might be your card/img etc
[21:23] <tonsit> oh power, try a different usb port
[21:23] <tonsit> more direct to the motherboard for better supply
[21:24] <markedathome> get xsane: io/hpmud/musb.c 2066: Invalid usb_open: Permission denied
[21:24] <tonsit> i have a crappy cable that falls out of the friction conenct slightly and i get rainbow boots a lot.
[21:24] <reta> well I asked just to see what OS they're on, I don't have it plugged in yet
[21:25] <tonsit> oh so i'm rambling then :) kk
[21:25] <reta> but good to know
[21:25] <tonsit> sorry lol
[21:25] <reta> but why it didn't boot I have no idea
[21:25] <reta> hoping for corrup install on the SD, so trying openelec again..
[21:25] <tonsit> have you tried berryboot?
[21:26] <reta> well I'm basically only gonna use XBMC
[21:26] <reta> so I'm assuming openelec/xbian/raspbmc are the best choices for me
[21:26] <tonsit> berryboot is a bootloader that can boot xmbc
[21:26] <|Jeroen|> i prefer openelc
[21:26] <tonsit> it also automates sd card installs
[21:26] <pksato> cat put berryboot on small (16MB - 256MB) old SD card.
[21:27] <tonsit> once you have berryboot on the card, you can install off usb
[21:27] <reta> ah ok
[21:27] <tonsit> or off the internet
[21:27] <reta> thanks for the tip
[21:27] <tonsit> and it can do openelc/xmbc with just mouse clicks
[21:27] <reta> I'm having a hard time getting my wifi dongle to work on openelec, that's why I tried other OS'es
[21:27] <tonsit> worked great for me w/o a keyboard
[21:27] <tonsit> lol
[21:27] <tonsit> gotcha, well this would allow you to run multiple os at boot
[21:27] <tonsit> and you can find one that works maybe :)
[21:28] <reta> omg
[21:28] <reta> openelec works
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[21:28] <tonsit> i'd check your power cable then
[21:28] <reta> why didn't raspbmc nor xbian work :/
[21:28] <Amadiro> markedathome, have a look at http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-hardware-18/opensuse-11-2-locks-up-when-scanning-and-usb-keyboard-mouse-become-non-operational-788742/
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[21:29] <tonsit> but thats from my own experiences with boot issues, yours may differ :)
[21:29] <reta> tonsit, how do you mean? it's 1A, im assuming there's not much more to check? :)
[21:29] <tonsit> reta: where is it plugged in?
[21:29] <reta> micro usb
[21:29] <reta> ?
[21:30] <tonsit> front/back through a hub
[21:30] <reta> the micro usb slot
[21:30] <reta> on the rpi
[21:30] <tonsit> oh i mean the other end of the plug hehe
[21:30] <reta> jack
[21:30] <tonsit> gotcha
[21:30] <reta> old mobile charger
[21:30] <tonsit> ^
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[21:31] <tonsit> old being the keyword, i use an old cable too
[21:31] <reta> well "old"
[21:31] <tonsit> i get bad boots, unplug the cable from the power supply
[21:31] <tonsit> and plug it back in
[21:31] <tonsit> and it works
[21:31] <tonsit> i leave it attached to my rpi
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[21:31] <boakun> sounds shady
[21:31] <tonsit> it is, i need a new cable :d
[21:31] <tonsit> but i like to repurpose and it works well enough imo
[21:31] <boakun> i have like 30 micro usb cables lol
[21:32] <tonsit> send me a few? :d
[21:32] <boakun> heh
[21:32] <boakun> i mostly use cell phone chargers
[21:32] <tonsit> i'll trade you mini usb in exchange
[21:32] <tonsit> or even printer size
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[21:33] <boakun> those printer cables are such an odd size
[21:33] <tonsit> for that matter i'll throw in some floppy disks. the 1.44 kind not that 768 kind
[21:33] <boakun> i remember using those huge floppies
[21:33] <tonsit> heh
[21:33] <boakun> and sliding that thing over it
[21:33] <tonsit> its write protected that way, no one will ever know how to delete your data.
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[21:34] <reta> need suggestions, what should I do.. I will only use the RPi for XBMC... but in OpenELEC I can't get my wifi dongle to work
[21:34] <tonsit> how much was your wifi dongle?
[21:34] <reta> half the price of a rpi :P
[21:34] <boakun> i dont run anything over usb ion my rpi
[21:34] <boakun> its just more draw on the psu
[21:34] <tonsit> damn mine was $7 and it works hehe =d
[21:34] <boakun> well besides my lan
[21:35] <reta> it says it's supported evertwhere etc
[21:35] <reta> and 300mbps
[21:35] <boakun> http://www.amazon.com/Edimax-EW-7811Un-Wireless-Adapter-Wizard/dp/B005CLMJLU/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1361046909&sr=8-2&keywords=raspberry+pi
[21:35] <boakun> i hear that works well
[21:35] <reta> and w/o powered usb hub
[21:35] <double-you> 7811Un has 150mbit
[21:35] <boakun> ya
[21:35] <tonsit> 300 mbps is sweet
[21:35] <boakun> 150 should be sufficient
[21:35] <boakun> honestly. just use cat5e
[21:35] <double-you> however, you wont reach 150mbit
[21:36] <tonsit> cat5e isn't practical
[21:36] <tonsit> for renters.
[21:36] <boakun> indeed
[21:36] <boakun> double-you, i/o overhead
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[21:37] <boakun> reta, lsusb
[21:37] <boakun> what do you see
[21:37] <tonsit> so it sounds like a driver issue, and or signal issue?
[21:37] <reta> I see the dongle
[21:37] <double-you> whatever I did, ethernet was faster
[21:37] <reta> but not ip adress
[21:37] <tonsit> how close are you to the router?
[21:37] <reta> close
[21:37] <reta> ^^
[21:37] <boakun> did you setup your wifi info in xbmc?
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[21:37] <reta> yeah, well that's the only place I can configure anything
[21:37] <tonsit> i can get a signal on my pi, but not on my box using the same adapter in the same location...
[21:37] <reta> since it's openelec
[21:37] <boakun> ifconfig wlan0
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[21:38] <reta> it's a fresh install of openelec, sec
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[21:38] <boakun> just an fyi #Openelec
[21:38] <mrmoney2012> got my servo working??? woot
[21:39] <boakun> tonsit, any idea why i would get dma read issues
[21:39] <boakun> i wonder if my oc is casuign flash corruption
[21:39] <tonsit> dma in this instance being
[21:39] <boakun> id have to find my log
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[21:39] <boakun> but good luick with that
[21:39] <boakun> lol
[21:39] <tonsit> lol
[21:40] <tonsit> i do like puzzles, working with the border pieces doesn't get me too far tho :d
[21:40] <boakun> ya
[21:40] <boakun> i think i have one locally
[21:40] <reta> boakun well, Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 90:94:E4:4A:62:ED
[21:40] <tonsit> the fact that you wonder about your OC makes me wonder about it too
[21:40] <tonsit> :P
[21:40] <reta> MAC, nothing else really
[21:40] <boakun> [ 8.327205] mmc0: DMA IRQ 6 ignored - results were reset
[21:40] <boakun> [ 8.356986] mmc0: missed completion of cmd 18 DMA (512/512 [1]/[1]) - ignoring it
[21:40] <reta> but at least it's there?
[21:40] <tonsit> reta: can you configure your settings manually? ie, static ip
[21:41] <reta> I can, but it doesn't show the ip then
[21:41] <tonsit> so even as static it fails to connecto to your wifi?
[21:41] <boakun> maybe the signal is too low
[21:41] <reta> hm
[21:42] <tonsit> got a powered usb hub?
[21:42] <reta> nope
[21:42] <reta> that's why I picked one that wouldn't require one
[21:42] <boakun> you dont need a power hub really
[21:42] <reta> *shouldn't..
[21:42] <tonsit> sure it requires the pi to supply it
[21:42] <boakun> if your psu is fine
[21:42] <tonsit> via the psu
[21:42] <tonsit> which brings us back to your earlier power issues eh?
[21:43] <boakun> maybe its your psu
[21:43] <tonsit> or the wall outlet, try another one hehe
[21:43] <reta> wait, what.. :) how is this my PSU's fault?
[21:43] <tonsit> its your cable
[21:44] <tonsit> if i had to guess, i'd start there
[21:44] <reta> i'll try something diff then
[21:44] <reta> btw, it's fine to just pull the cable?
[21:44] <tonsit> sort of
[21:44] <reta> or should you "turn off xbmc" first?
[21:44] <tonsit> possible corruption of any media
[21:45] <tonsit> it doesn't really shut down, it can reboot tho and thats the 'safest' time to pull the power from what i gather
[21:45] <markedathome> Amadiro, not making any difference as there is no relevant entry in 50-rules. I might need to reboot, but can't do that just yet
[21:46] <tonsit> reta: short answer, yes i pull the power while my os is live a lot hehe
[21:46] <Amadiro> markedathome, you need to "sudo udevadm control --reload-rules"
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[21:47] <Amadiro> otherwise head over to #debian or so and ask for help there, since the issue should not be rpi-specific
[21:47] <markedathome> didn't work; I'll try that thanks.
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[21:50] <carli2> hi
[21:51] <carli2> omxplayer does not correctly handle the TERM signal
[21:51] <carli2> where should I enter a bug report?
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[21:56] <linuxstb> carli2: I think this is the official repository - https://github.com/huceke/omxplayer
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[21:57] <carli2> okay. filled
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[22:07] <jdpond> OK, it's been driving me crazy. In bash, if you use the command "set" to look at your local variables, the last one is a LONG stream of garbage. Anyone know why and possibly how I can avoid it?
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[22:08] <tonsit> i'm guessing its not a string :d
[22:08] <tonsit> using cat and or grep combo with a regexp
[22:08] <tonsit> grep in this case?
[22:09] <jdpond> No, I think it is a mistake in one of the startup script files. Currently doing a system wide grep to find where it was inserted.
[22:09] <duckxx> hi im very new to all of this and I can't seem to find any good tutorials on how to get the gertboard to make a motor run. any suggestions?
[22:09] <boakun> show it a photo of your sister
[22:09] <tonsit> thats not fair, his sister might not be hot.
[22:09] <boakun> lol
[22:10] <boakun> works both ways
[22:10] <duckxx> http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7UOpW9vAyIE/TPF15gepTjI/AAAAAAAAEHo/6I4eRBqy0NE/s1600/IMG_1727.JPG
[22:10] <duckxx> but she is.
[22:10] <pksato> jdpond: It garbage are from bash-completion. I removed this package. aptitude purge bash-completion.
[22:10] <tonsit> well then, that got my figurative... ok
[22:10] <markedathome> is there ANY decent web browser that works on the pi?
[22:10] <Scriven> links2
[22:10] <duckxx> anyone from NYC here? im actually doing a pi meetup on Tuesday.
[22:10] <boakun> i dont get some chix smiles
[22:11] <boakun> i dont want to see your gums
[22:11] <tonsit> sounds cool duckxx, gonna post pictures?
[22:11] <flypiper> markedathome, I installed apache2 on mine.. works great
[22:11] <markedathome> chromium is 100% cpu, dillo can't load images from another site, midori is useless
[22:11] <duckxx> http://www.meetup.com/x-tech-meetup-chinatown-nyc/events/86393962/
[22:11] <Scriven> markedathome, links2 is a good cli-based, but if you're looking for gui specifically, I haven't done that on my 256MB Rev 1 yet. lol
[22:11] <tonsit> host a vlog on your rpi :d
[22:11] <flypiper> markedathome, thought you said server..sorry
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[22:12] <tonsit> hmm
[22:12] <duckxx> i want to get something up to show on tuesday .. something cool.
[22:12] <tonsit> thats cool, i'll keep it in mind if i travel to nyc
[22:12] <tonsit> i'm guessing you'll keep doing this?
[22:12] <markedathome> flypiper well I suppose I can nc to apache, but my http-fu is weak...
[22:13] <jdpond> pksato: Thanks!
[22:14] <tonsit> please let me know if you post the meeting somewhere as video, i'd probably check out the GPIO portion :)
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[22:15] <Scriven> I'm not sure if the VHS recorded the Pi-meeting here in Vancouver, but it was hella-cool learning to make the LED blink via gpio!
[22:16] <jdpond> pksato: what is bash-completion and why is it in the wheezy distro?
[22:17] <UnaClocker> I believe that's when you type part of a filename, hit tab, and it fills in the rest..
[22:17] <duckxx> tonsit@ yea i hope to do it monthly as there isnt many meetups focused on this stuff.
[22:17] <pksato> to complet some commands and arguments.
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[22:17] <duckxx> i just need to learn this stuff myself to show other people how to do it.. i see alot of tutorials online aren't very well documented.
[22:18] <duckxx> or just hard to follow due to outdated software
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[22:18] <tonsit> yes, i agree
[22:18] <tonsit> i'm a mad scientist atm :)
[22:18] <jdpond> Aarrrgh. Yep, that solved the problem, but now I can't use the bash completion features - which I use frequently.
[22:18] <pksato> duckxx: official gertboard documental cant help?
[22:22] <duckxx> pksato@ i dont feel it as newbie friendly... im trying to understand whats all these wires are for..
[22:22] <duckxx> i did some lessons from tech-fruits.com but some of them dont work.. as i dont understand why i have to wire up different things to light up different stuff.
[22:23] <duckxx> and i can't seem to figure out how to get the motor thing to run.
[22:24] <duckxx> i really feel we would be able to acquire new followers into this space if the documentation was easier to understand... i run a workshop meetup space and i want to eventually be able to teach this stuff
[22:25] <pksato> gertboard is General purpose expansion board. wiring depends that you which.
[22:26] <duckxx> there are so many pins on that thing and i have no idea what they do..i just know if you connect one to the other something happens when you program it to light up something.
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[22:26] <markedathome> ok, how do I get dillo to load images from another site? allow_all doesn't seem to work?
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[22:30] <tdy> wow dillo.. haven't heard that in years
[22:31] <pksato> duckxx: you have some electronic knowledge?
[22:32] <tonsit> duckxx: sounds like you want a private tutor atm then hehe
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[22:33] <hobo> Scriven: u in vancouver?
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[22:34] <ech0s7> tonsit: I finally got it to work
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[22:35] <tonsit> sweet, what did you end up going with?
[22:35] <ech0s7> tonsit: statically
[22:35] <tonsit> excellent
[22:35] <ech0s7> on rpi i have setted into /etc/resolv.con
[22:35] <ech0s7> 8.8.8.8 and 8.8.4.4 as nameserver
[22:35] <ech0s7> ifconfing eth0 down
[22:35] <ech0s7> sakis3g connect
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[22:36] <ech0s7> ifconfig wlan0 192.168.1.162 up
[22:36] <ech0s7> from pc i can connect to rpi over wifi
[22:36] <ech0s7> but I still have to set the ip manually
[22:37] <tonsit> gladier: to see you worked it out, sometimes networking can be a fun puzzle when you settle into it
[22:37] <tonsit> actel:
[22:37] <tonsit> ...
[22:37] <tonsit> auto complete is my enemy.
[22:37] <ech0s7> now I want to configure a dhcp server on the rpi
[22:37] <tonsit> ech0s7: glad to see you worked it out
[22:37] <ech0s7> thanks
[22:37] <ech0s7> ...now I want to configure a dhcp server on the rpi
[22:38] <ech0s7> so that the clients do not need to manually set the ip
[22:38] <angelos> use dnsmasq
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[22:39] * linuxstb would also recommend dnsmasq
[22:39] <tonsit> ech0s7: http://code.cjb.net/raspberrypi-server.html
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[22:40] <tonsit> explains how to set up.. dnsmasq :)
[22:40] <ech0s7> angelos: thanks, tonsit thanks
[22:40] <ech0s7> now i read
[22:40] <tonsit> heh
[22:41] <Scriven> hobo, yeah I am, sorry was AFK.
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[22:42] <hobo> cool, me too
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[22:42] <hobo> i should check out the vhs sometime
[22:42] <ech0s7> but dnsmasq is right for my environment?
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[22:43] <angelos> I don't know your environment, but dnsmasq is perfect for small networks
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[22:44] <Scriven> ARGH, missing small battery FTL! :(
[22:45] <duckxx> any good tutorials on how to get MAME to run on the pi? i tried doing it with one of the tuts i found on google but it took forever to compile and it didnt work..
[22:45] <duckxx> or is there an already compiled version?
[22:45] <ech0s7> angelos: i would use rpi as access point
[22:46] <ech0s7> and i would that rpi takes the connection from 3g dongle
[22:46] <ech0s7> all works setting ip statically
[22:46] <ech0s7> from client
[22:46] <markedathome> about a aweek or two ago on the raspberrypi.org front page liz posted a user who had multiple game emulators running from a distribution
[22:46] <ech0s7> angelos: are you italian ? :)
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[22:47] <jdpond> pksato: OK, you've probably looked into this, but how come when I "sudo -s", and then "set", the garbage no longer appears? It must be something in the login process.
[22:47] <Scriven> One of the raspberry Pi emulator OS's: http://chameleon.enging.com/
[22:48] <Scriven> for duckxx ^^^
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[22:50] <DaxxRuckus> Hi everyone
[22:51] <duckxx> Scriven@ so is that a distribution that has everything setup like the xmbc pi ?
[22:51] <DaxxRuckus> I need some help
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[22:51] <pksato> jdpond: shell login is done. read shell profile files.
[22:51] <pksato> is not done
[22:51] <DaxxRuckus> this is a basic question, but I just got the Rpi and adafruit kit, and I don't understand where to plug in the PiCobbler into the breadboard
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[22:52] <Scriven> duckxx, looks that way yes, I haven't tried it myself, just learned about it yesterday.
[22:52] <Scriven> Appears to boot into a screen tha tpresents a bunch of pictures-of-systems, you pick your system and it boots.
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[22:52] <Scriven> DaxxRuckus, I think strattling the middle, so each pin gets it's own line on the board, but that's just an edumacated guess, don't own one myself.
[22:53] <DaxxRuckus> yeah thats what it looks like
[22:53] <Scriven> https://www.adafruit.com/products/914
[22:53] <Scriven> one of the pictures on the page shows it like that.
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[22:54] <piney> i typically put the cobbler at one end of the board. you can put it anywhere on the breadboard though
[22:54] <piney> DaxxRuckus, ^^
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[22:55] <DaxxRuckus> but i can't tell if there are specific pin slots it needs to go in
[22:55] <pksato> DaxxRuckus: PiCobbler is assembled?
[22:55] <DaxxRuckus> @piney, it can do anywhere?
[22:55] <DaxxRuckus> @pksato yes it came assembled
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[22:55] <DaxxRuckus> i didn't have to solder it
[22:55] <mgottschlag> DaxxRuckus: do you know how the holes on your breadboard are connected to each other?
[22:55] <pksato> DaxxRuckus: just put it on bredboard like a any chip/
[22:55] <tonsit> duckxx: did that provide name? i didn't look at the site
[22:56] <piney> yes DaxxRuckus. you can put it anywhere. do you know how a breadboard is wired internally?
[22:56] <DaxxRuckus> @piney, no
[22:56] <DaxxRuckus> i know nothing about them
[22:56] <DaxxRuckus> this is all a new expirement for me
[22:56] <DaxxRuckus> learning about electronics
[22:56] <mgottschlag> DaxxRuckus: http://www.kpsec.freeuk.com/images/bblinks.gif
[22:56] <mgottschlag> most boards are wired like this
[22:56] <mgottschlag> (probably all)
[22:57] <DaxxRuckus> im not sure what im looking at
[22:57] <pksato> DaxxRuckus: download magpi issues. http://www.themagpi.com/
[22:57] <piney> DaxxRuckus, http://ecee.colorado.edu/~mathys/ecen2250/myDAQ01/breadboard_90.png
[22:57] <pksato> The have a introduction to basic eletronics.
[22:57] <mgottschlag> the pins in the middle are connected in vertical lines, while you have too long horizontal connected rows for power supply etc
[22:57] <DaxxRuckus> oh those are on the side
[22:57] <DaxxRuckus> ok
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[22:57] <DaxxRuckus> i see
[22:58] <DaxxRuckus> thanks @pksato, i'm going to download those
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[22:58] <piney> magpi is a great source for info like this
[22:58] <mgottschlag> so, only the pins plugged into holes connected with a line there are connected, so what you do is you plug your picobbler in so that no two pins are connected to each other
[22:58] <DaxxRuckus> the way the pins are spaced on the cobbler, it is going to be in different lines on each side
[22:58] <pksato> and, buy some books.
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[22:59] <DaxxRuckus> ok i think i get it. My brother is an EE, he is going to help me with all this next week, but I wanted to get a jump start on this thing
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[23:00] <piney> DaxxRuckus, do you have any projects in mind yet?
[23:00] <pksato> DaxxRuckus: first, understand Ohms law.
[23:00] <DaxxRuckus> @piney I'm following the tutorials at http://learn.adafruit.com
[23:01] <piney> good place
[23:01] <DaxxRuckus> now that I have linux configured and python installed, I'm starting with http://learn.adafruit.com/raspberry-pi-e-mail-notifier-using-leds/wire-leds
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[23:01] <pksato> and Kirchhoff's circuit laws.
[23:02] * mgottschlag things that at the very beginning, intuitive understanding is much more important than knowing any specific laws :)
[23:02] <mgottschlag> *thinks
[23:02] <piney> thats a fairly simple circuit to start with.
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[23:03] <DaxxRuckus> cool, you think thats a good place to start?
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[23:03] <mgottschlag> whenever you build something, always have the circuit diagram next to it though, you have to learn how to read that
[23:03] <piney> circuit wise, yes. software wise, im not too sure. i would suggect starting with blinking the led first before automating it with email. but that's just my opinion
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[23:04] <mrpaladin> i have my pi working now and have installed and mounted a portable HD, but I forget how to address it. How can I find out where I loaded it?
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[23:04] <piney> DaxxRuckus, do you have any programming experience?
[23:04] <DaxxRuckus> @piney yep
[23:04] <DaxxRuckus> no python, but C++, VB, etc
[23:05] <DaxxRuckus> was a CS major in undergrad and IS in masters
[23:05] <piney> ok, that helps. go ahead with that circuit then.
[23:05] <DaxxRuckus> just no electronics knowledge
[23:05] <piney> seems to be a good starting point
[23:05] <mrpaladin> another Q: I can now get to the internet. If I downoad--say Vim--where does it go, and how do I get it to and install it on the portable HD?
[23:05] <mgottschlag> DaxxRuckus: https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/tux-crossing/gpio-examples-1-a-single-led/ is the same circuit and has a diagram
[23:05] <DaxxRuckus> oh cool, thanks
[23:06] <piney> electronics wise on that circuit, you have 2 led's and 2 resistors. doesn't get much simpler than this
[23:06] <piney> so great place to start imo
[23:06] <DaxxRuckus> perfect, im starting there first
[23:06] <DaxxRuckus> ok im going to go screw around with this, will be back with questions shortly I'm sure. Will stay logged in here
[23:06] <mrpaladin> last Q: how do I add the .vim directories to my path?
[23:07] <DaxxRuckus> and, THANK YOU for all the help everyone. I appreciate you guys helping a n00b
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[23:07] <piney> DaxxRuckus, good luck, and have fun :)
[23:07] <mgottschlag> mrpaladin: "but I forget how to address it. How can I find out where I loaded it?" - "df -h" shows you partitions and sizes
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[23:08] <mgottschlag> "If I downoad--say Vim--where does it go, and how do I get it to and install it on the portable HD?" - usually (with raspbian, other distros work differently), you download stuff though the package manager ("apt-get install vim")
[23:08] <pksato> I actually very lazy to done some experiments with gpios. :(
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[23:08] <mgottschlag> which installs it into /usr (executable at /usr/bin/vim, additional files somewhere in /usr/share), but you usually don't need to care
[23:09] <mrpaladin> oh. I was thinking of downloading a tar.gz through the browser
[23:10] <mgottschlag> mrpaladin: that means that you have to compile it first (.tar.gz is only source code), you'd have to install a build environment then
[23:10] <mgottschlag> never do that unless you have to
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[23:10] <mrpaladin> gotit
[23:10] <mrpaladin> that means I have to download apt
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[23:10] <mgottschlag> oh, and .vim is in /home/yourname, doesn't need to be in $PATH
[23:11] <mgottschlag> apt-get should be preinstalled (unless you use a different distribution of course, in arch it is pacman)
[23:11] <mrpaladin> I am just using raspberry pi (I think it is root)
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[23:12] <mgottschlag> root = "administrator account" :)
[23:12] <mrpaladin> I think I used the std raspian package. did that have apt?
[23:12] <mgottschlag> yes
[23:13] <mrpaladin> if I do a 'ls -la' from my home directory, will it show me my hard drive?
[23:13] <mgottschlag> probably not, unless you mounted it there
[23:14] <mgottschlag> usually it is mounted in "/media/someplace"
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[23:14] <mrpaladin> well this is a bog help. I finally got a wireless kbd and the wifi connection working at the same time tda!
[23:15] <mrpaladin> er BIG help :-)
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[23:19] <mgottschlag> oh, and btw, you are a linux newcomer, right? have you used vim before? :D
[23:19] <mrpaladin> am a lt vim user (mac and win)
[23:19] <tonsit> i install nano, so much easier w/o remembering my shortcuts :d
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[23:19] <mrpaladin> when I apt get vim on this, will it give the option of installing on the HD?
[23:20] <mgottschlag> no, it always installs into /usr
[23:20] <mgottschlag> you can install the whole root file system (including *all* programs) on the HD though
[23:20] <mrpaladin> hmm but i only have 512mb :-(
[23:21] <mrpaladin> or does it install on my card?
[23:22] <mrpaladin> I hv 64gb card
[23:24] <mgottschlag> mrpaladin: http://mitchtech.net/raspberry-pi-root-fs-on-usb-drive/
[23:24] <mgottschlag> it should be possible to install it on a 64GB card, you'd need a fresh install of course
[23:24] <mgottschlag> (or actually just copying the content of the small card to the big card with the right tools should work as well)
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[23:39] <jdpond> pksato: Sorry to bother you. It was still bugging me that when I was running as root, bash-completion still worked. I definitely saw there is a bash-completion in /etc/profile.d that would not be executed with -u = 0 (e.g., root). Is this a known bug or a feature of bash-completion?
[23:40] <pksato> is a feature. But I dont like.
[23:41] <jdpond> pksato: is this on all distros? was about to run downstairs and check on an Ubuntu server. Why does it work just fine on root without garbaging my local variables store, but can't seem to when running as anyone but root.
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[23:43] <pksato> jdpond: debian, and others.
[23:43] <pksato> bash-completion is not critical, is safe to remove.
[23:44] <pksato> and, release some memory, per shell.
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