#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-02-23

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[0:07] <chupacabra> can one put more than one os per sd?
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[0:08] <linuxstb> chupacabra: http://www.berryterminal.com/doku.php/berryboot
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[0:08] <bennypr0fane> chupacabra berryboot is pretty awesomw
[0:08] <mjr> yes, though not sure how kludgy the os change will be (at least you could switch by modifying the /boot files...)
[0:08] <bennypr0fane> it'll download and install the images for you, too
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[0:09] <bennypr0fane> except, you don't get to choose which version
[0:09] <mjr> okay, so someone's covered that
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[0:09] <bennypr0fane> for most OSs it'll not be the latest release
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[0:23] <chupacabra> cool. figured as much.
[0:24] <chupacabra> seems people dont realize this is linux and anthing can be done. Lots of innocent FUD in here.
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[0:46] <martk100> Where do I find a suitable touchscreen.xml for xbmc on the Pi?
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[0:51] <Xeph> I can't get any sound playback after having updated linux-headers-raspberrypi (3.6.11-5 -> 3.6.11-7), linux-raspberrypi (3.6.11-5 -> 3.6.11-7) and raspberrypi-firmware (20130116-1 -> 20130219-1) (and executed rpi-update) on a archlinux. Are currently any issues known to be caused by these updates? Or a common mistake besides those fixed by like hdmi_drive?
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[1:05] <tfitts> someone last week suggested that chromium would be best to put on my pi for my project. Anyone know where I can get it? the author's page just says hiatus without a download link.
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[1:27] <Amadiro> tfitts, as in, the browser?
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[1:36] * Firehopper has my rpi :)
[1:36] <techman2> Firehopper: first one?
[1:36] <Firehopper> now just have to wait for the usb hub, and the usb wifi dongle
[1:36] <Firehopper> yes techman
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[1:36] <techman2> cool
[1:36] <techman2> what are your plans for it?
[1:37] <Firehopper> eventually a bitcoin asic controller :)
[1:38] <Firehopper> but till I get the asic, I'll use it for something, not sure what yet
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[1:47] <Tachyon`> hi, do we have a gpu accelerated vlc yet?
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[1:50] <chupacabra> that didnt take long. Fedora is the clear winner in Raspberry Pi land. What a nice install/first boot
[1:54] <Amadiro> Tachyon`, not to my knowledge.
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[1:59] * Tachyon` blinks
[1:59] <Tachyon`> isn't fedora deadrat based?
[2:02] <plugwash> Yeah something like that, supposedly they had a team at some university working on fedora to be the official distro for the Pi and they still failed to deliver and image that the raspberry pi foundation considered of sufficient quality to release
[2:03] <plugwash> and meanwhile mike and I were working on creating raspbian................
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[2:04] <tdy> seneca college.. never heard of it before
[2:04] <TAFB_afk> seneca is close to me :)
[2:05] <TAFB_afk> lots of cute girls there :)
[2:05] <Tachyon`> I was definitely pleased to see raspbian, been running debian since 1999
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[2:05] <Tachyon`> if only someone would make a replacement pandora firmware that's debian based
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[2:06] <Tachyon`> (you can boot it from SD but quick it is not)
[2:11] <plugwash> Tachyon`, BTW in a few months time when work starts on raspbian jessie we will probablly be looking for suckers^W developers to help
[2:14] <satellit> look at http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Testing/Reports/ARM_RPi
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[2:14] <satellit> http://scotland.proximity.on.ca/raspberrypi/raspberrypi-fedora-remix/18/images/rpfr-f18-rc1.zip
[2:15] <tdy> hm what about it?
[2:16] <satellit> you were asking about seneca college and RPi image this works look at testing report
[2:17] <tdy> i know about fedora remix.. it was just not up to the rpi foundation's standards for official affiliation
[2:18] <tdy> the "university that was developing it" was seneca college, which i'd never heard of
[2:18] <satellit> ok works for me
[2:19] * satellit debian has a very old version of sugar-desktop which is what I am interested....
[2:21] <Tachyon`> raspbian jessie? what are these named after? team rocket?
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[2:22] <Tachyon`> sugar? the OLPC UI?
[2:22] * Tachyon` used to have an XO
[2:22] <Tachyon`> until someone nicked it
[2:22] * Tachyon` assumes they liked the colour or something
[2:22] <satellit> yes wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Creation_Kit
[2:23] * satellit I test for them..latest push is for RPI for kids
[2:24] <Tachyon`> with a standard WM so they're not limited by sugar I hope, sugar is okay for little kids but if they have any ability they'll soon want something more IMHO
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[2:25] <KillmeSoftly> SHH
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[2:25] <satellit> there are gnome-sugar softwares for the XO-1 and XO-1.5
[2:25] <satellit> for older kids
[2:25] <Tachyon`> yes, I had the XO-1
[2:25] <Tachyon`> I wasn't impressed
[2:25] <satellit> ok
[2:25] <Tachyon`> although it did have the option of a full desktop
[2:26] <Tachyon`> I'm not suggesting sugar shouldn't be what it boots into, just that there's an option to use something else
[2:26] <satellit> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Tutorials/Introduction_to_the_Sugar_Interface
[2:26] <satellit> it is different DE
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[2:42] <jeffszusz> I finally got all the cords and SD cards for my RPi
[2:43] <jeffszusz> I'm trying to install an image to an SD card now
[2:43] <jeffszusz> failed once...
[2:43] <DeliriumTremens> dont break it
[2:43] <jeffszusz> using the mac tool RPi-sd card builder
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[2:49] <jeffszusz> the error i'm getting is "The action Run Script (eject sd) has encountered an error. Check the action's properties and try running the workflow again."
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[2:50] <jeffszusz> it died a second time
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[2:53] <satellit_e> http://alltheware.wordpress.com/2012/12/11/easiest-way-sd-card-setup/ is this what you are trying?
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[2:53] <jeffszusz> yeah - i see that someone commented that if you try it even with that error it should work
[2:53] <satellit_e> the card is unmounted...I assume
[2:55] <satellit_e> I have not tried this...but a friend said she was going to use it
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[2:55] <jeffszusz> i guess i'll try it and see
[2:56] <satellit_e> remember plugging in power 5V 1.0AMP will start boot unplug to stop after shutdown
[2:56] <satellit_e> 8 GB SD class 10 works here
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[2:57] <jeffszusz> i've an 8gb class 4 sandisk
[2:57] <Ben64> where can i get some 3d demos i can run from the command line to show the awesome graphics
[2:57] <jeffszusz> my roommate has the same card and it works fine
[2:58] <satellit_e> have fun http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Testing/Reports/ARM_RPi has screen shots
[2:59] <jeffszusz> fedora eh
[2:59] <chupacabra> ya fedora
[3:00] <jeffszusz> wait
[3:00] <jeffszusz> with sugar?
[3:00] <jeffszusz> is that the OLPC sugar?
[3:02] * Firehopper yawns and waits for my wifi and usb hub to connect together my rpi.
[3:02] <chupacabra> fedora 18 xfce
[3:02] <Firehopper> tested it works good :) just dont want to connect it via ethernet :)
[3:02] <chupacabra> updating it now
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[3:24] <splitwire> Hello everybody; I just received my pi a few days ago and ran into a problem that I can't Google my way out of... I cannot launch programs from the pi store, any suggestions? Thank you.
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[3:26] <Grievar> splitwire: ?
[3:26] <chupacabra> dern ig fedora update
[3:26] <chupacabra> big
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[3:30] <splitwire> Grievar - I click on the launch button and none of the apps will launch. I can find the programs at /usr/local/bin/indiecity/InstalledAps/ but cannot get anything to run
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[3:32] <KiltedPi> No can sleep.
[3:32] <KiltedPi> Bad this is.
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[4:14] <laffer> till tomorow
[4:14] <chupacabra> ay mikey
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[6:24] <Duality> hi
[6:25] <Duality> ik got this little ringing/popping in my music when playing it
[6:25] <Duality> I
[6:25] <Duality> any way to fix ?
[6:25] <Duality> I use a Usb headset
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[6:34] <SwK> is it constant?
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[7:43] <chupacabra> xscreensaver roccking my tv
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[8:14] <dreamon_> Wie ??berredet man Ubuntu dazu, das es nicht versucht eine USB-HDD beim einstecken NICHT einzuh??ngen?
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[8:16] <dreamon_> Ein nicht zuviel ;)
[8:18] <|Jeroen|> english please
[8:18] <dreamon_> wrong Channel -> sry
[8:26] <Bhaal> Anyone still reporting problems with Bluetooth timeouts? I have a new rpi with 3.6.11 kernel, a USB dongle which is supposedly verified, but it still has those timeout issues which eventually freezers the entire rpi ...?
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[8:27] <Bhaal> Setting it to USB 1.1 has fixed it, but I cannot plug much in that works, the BT dongle and wifi dongle are about all that work... not even my USB keyboards work...
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[10:41] <martk100> Where do I find a suitable (or typical) .xml file to enable my touchscreen in xbmc?
[10:41] <jelly1> google
[10:42] <ShiftPlusOne> jelly1, very helpful D=
[10:42] <jelly1> yes
[10:42] <martk100> jelly1: I have spent hours on google. Lots of people with this problem but no solutions.
[10:43] <ShiftPlusOne> try #xbmc-rpi
[10:43] <jelly1> or ... #xbmc
[10:43] <jelly1> martk100: http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=Settings/System
[10:44] <jelly1> i bet yours isn't detected
[10:44] <martk100> jelly1:My touchscreen is detected and to some extent working.
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[10:46] <martk100> jelly1: I will have a look at your link. Thanks.
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[11:25] <Bhaal> Does the rpi (v2) have a sleep timer? ie: wake from suspend at a specified time?
[11:28] <Bhaal> Ah, doesn't even have suspend, righto
[11:28] <ShiftPlusOne> It doesn't have a suspend or a sleep to begin with, AFAIK.
[11:29] <Bhaal> ShiftPlusOne: *snap*
[11:29] <ShiftPlusOne> there is a wake from halt you can do though gpio, so you can make your own timer quite easily to turn it back on.
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[11:30] <Bhaal> If the USB/Bluetooth stuff was working properly I wouldn't need to worry about it...
[11:31] <Bhaal> But as there are still tx timeouts when using BT dongles, its a problem...
[11:32] <Bhaal> I am almost considering buying the arduino breakout + arduino BT module to do this...
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[11:44] <Viper-7> Bhaal: to do what?
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[11:52] <Bhaal> Viper-7: Talk to my SMA solar inverter without having the rpi freeze every few hours
[11:53] <neirpyc> Any word on rtorrent finding its way to Rasbmc? I love Openelec just wish I could run stuff in the background.
[11:53] <Bhaal> Viper-7: Presently I am running it with dwc_otg.speed=1 .. and this works...
[11:53] <Viper-7> Bhaal: an rpi for that? using a nuke to kill a roach? :P
[11:54] <Viper-7> http://www.goodluckbuy.com/msp430f2121-bk2421-nrf24l01-wireless-module-msp430-development-board.html
[11:54] <Bhaal> Viper-7: Actually, I have 2 rpi's doing the jobs I was hoping one would be able to do.. monitor my weather station and my SMA inverter...
[11:55] <Bhaal> But as the bluetooth keeps freezing up the rpi I have had to separate the 2 of them...
[11:55] <Bhaal> If I try and use dwc_otg.speed=1 on the weather station I cannot talk to most usb devices...
[11:57] <Bhaal> Viper-7: What would I use that wireless module for?
[11:57] <Bhaal> for the bluetooth?
[11:57] <Viper-7> to replace both the rpi and bluetooth in the field
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[11:57] <Viper-7> or if you have any other MCUs, http://www.goodluckbuy.com/nrf24l01-ism-2-4ghz-wireless-comunication-module-24l01-ptr6000.html
[11:57] <Bhaal> Viper-7: How does that get my data to pvoutput.org etc?
[11:57] <Viper-7> usb bluetooth is hardly what id call robust
[11:58] <Viper-7> well how do you currently read the bluetooth signal?
[11:59] <Bhaal> via a bluetooth dongle on an rpi with dwc_otg.speed=1 in the cmdline.txt file
[11:59] <Bhaal> Using a piece of software called smatool
[11:59] <Bhaal> Viper-7: I am not really a hardware hacker
[12:00] <Bhaal> I bought the rpi's because they run linux and use sfa power...
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[12:02] <gordonDrogon> Bhaal, they use little power on this family friendly channel...
[12:02] <Viper-7> Bhaal: the nrf24 modules are quite easy to use - theres libraries for them for just about any kind of mcu or host you`d want
[12:03] <Bhaal> gordonDrogon: my apologies I thought I worded it family friendly enough (I do not swear around my kids either)
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[12:07] <gordonDrogon> it's not the best system for running off batteries though.
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[12:07] <Bhaal> Hmmm? batteries?
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> low-power...
[12:07] <gordonDrogon> even at 1.5watts, that's still a lot for long-term batteries
[12:08] <Bhaal> Oh, no, its running on mains
[12:08] <Bhaal> But for the sake of monitor a weather station and a solar inverter I didn't want to be chewing too much power...
[12:09] <gordonDrogon> You can replace the 5v and 3.3v regulators with SMPS versions - that saves power, and use a Model A too.
[12:10] <Bhaal> I am happy with the the Model Bs as they stand, just want the bluetooth to work reliably
[12:11] <Bhaal> I am using a dongle which is 'verified' as working, but I get those timeout issues
[12:11] <Bhaal> if running the USB bus at full speed
[12:11] <gordonDrogon> the model A still has 1 USB port though, so as long as you don't need anything else you'll be OK with it.
[12:11] <gordonDrogon> I've no experience with bluetooth though.
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[12:17] <Bhaal> `bom bhaals pad
[12:18] <Bhaal> Gah, wrong channel
[12:18] <Amadiro> Bhaal, if you don't need a lot of processing power, you can go a lot more low-power with an MCU
[12:18] <Amadiro> a lot of those also do bluetooth
[12:19] <Amadiro> If you need more processing-power, there are SoC chips that have processing-power comparable to the one on the rpi, but no GPU, that alone will probably also save you a lot, assuming you are not in need to output a HDMI signal :)
[12:19] <Bhaal> Amadiro: I already need the rpi to talk to the weather station with weewx ...
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[12:20] <Bhaal> Amadiro: That and I have bought 2 rpis ... if I stop using them, thats $100 wasted
[12:20] <Amadiro> Bhaal, well, check out for instance http://www.acmesystems.it/aria, its weaker than the rpi, but draws only about a tenth of the power.
[12:20] <Amadiro> also has usb, ethernet & 256/512M ram
[12:20] <gordonDrogon> I think it can sometimes be handy to have a high-level system next to a low-level one - so I'm thinking of an pplication that would have the Pi turned off (via a signal from an ATmega), so the ATmega runs for a while - until it's local logging capacity is full, then powers up the Pi, exchanges data and the Pi can then send it via the ether to somewhere, then turn itself off...
[12:21] <Amadiro> gordonDrogon, I have built something to that effect before, but using a full-blown PC.
[12:21] <Amadiro> + a PIC32 microcontroller
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> yea, it's all possible. Some good PCs are low power too - e.g. Alix systems - 500MHz Geode processors (4 watts), and some Atoms can be 10-15 watts too.
[12:22] <Amadiro> the biggest challenge was probably to make the communication between the PC and the MCU reliable
[12:23] <Amadiro> I don't know if that has changed, but then you couldn't rely on the MCUs serial port turning up at the same device file under linux after a reboot -- sometimes it would be named differently
[12:23] <Amadiro> so I opted instead for using libusb
[12:23] <Amadiro> if you just connect it to the rs232 line on the rpi, though, that problem would go away
[12:24] <Amadiro> but then, USB also gives you consistency guarantees, rs232 does not
[12:25] <gordonDrogon> you can force a usb serial port to always be at the same /dev/ device - I think that's what the udev rules can do for you.
[12:26] <Amadiro> gordonDrogon, I think that would still get messed up, though, if the MCU reconnects
[12:26] <Amadiro> the OS doesn't immediately garbage-collect the old device, so it just creates a new one
[12:27] <Triffid_Hunter> Amadiro: that's what symlinks are for
[12:27] <Amadiro> and how is that supposed to work
[12:27] <Triffid_Hunter> Amadiro: SUBSYSTEMS=="usb", ATTRS{idProduct}=="6001", ATTRS{idVendor}=="0403", SYMLINK+="arduino", SYMLINK+="arduino_$attr{serial}", MODE="0660" <-- /dev/arduino always points to the most recent ftdi chip to be plugged in
[12:28] <Triffid_Hunter> so I can unplug/replug, it gets assigned a new node then the symlink points to the new node. programs on the old one get a read error and can reconnect to the symlink
[12:28] <Amadiro> eh, well, libusb is just as reliable and cleaner anyway
[12:28] <Amadiro> and you get to chose your transfer mode, so you can transfer at higher speeds
[12:29] <Amadiro> (I don't think udev was around back then, though)
[12:29] <gordonDrogon> but if using serial then you don't need to use libusb at all - actually that symlink thing is a very elegant solution.
[12:29] <gordonDrogon> I do not confess to being a udev expert at all!
[12:30] <Triffid_Hunter> gordonDrogon: hah you should see the one that automatically creates a dated folder then moves all photos into it when I chuck my camera's SD card in
[12:31] <gordonDrogon> Hm. I'll add udev to my 'to do' list, but I have a dislike of auto mounting, etc.
[12:31] <Triffid_Hunter> me too, it unmounts when it's done
[12:32] <Triffid_Hunter> and only does it for that one specific card
[12:32] <gordonDrogon> I have a bash script I run to extract my camera, phonoe, etc.
[12:32] <Triffid_Hunter> gordonDrogon: ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEMS=="mmc_host", ATTR{partition}=="1", ATTR{start}=="227", ATTR{size}=="1983773", RUN+="/usr/local/sbin/UDEV-camera-download" <-- that's the udev rule, fires off a shell scrip
[12:32] <Triffid_Hunter> script drops privs before doing the stuff, just for sanity
[12:33] * gordonDrogon nods.
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[12:51] <Ben64> where can i get some 3d demos i can run from the command line to show the awesome graphics
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[12:54] <gordonDrogon> hello_triangle ?
[12:54] <gordonDrogon> should be part of Raspbian..
[12:55] <gordonDrogon> failing that, open arena. (a quake 3 type thing)
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[13:10] <Ben64> gordonDrogon: i've got raspbian, don't have any hello_triangles
[13:10] <gordonDrogon> Hm.
[13:11] <gordonDrogon> /opt/vc/src/hello_pi/hello_triangle
[13:11] <Ben64> oh its source
[13:11] <gordonDrogon> Hm. just tried to run it on the latest release and it's complaining about a missing library )-:
[13:13] <gordonDrogon> ah, just need to fixup the library path.
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[13:14] <Ben64> hmm
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[13:14] <Ben64> i kind of want more of a tech demo
[13:14] <Ben64> i might have to make it :(
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[13:20] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> hi there, my raspberry pi just arrived and now I want to try out something. I have downloaded Raspbian ?wheezy? and installed it to my sd. now I don't have a usb keyboard or mouse available
[13:21] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> I connected the pi to my network and used ssh to join it. Is there a gui with Raspbian ?wheezy? or is it just terminal?
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[13:21] <Dyskette> Well, ssh is network access to the terminal (more or less)
[13:22] <neirpyc> How is XBMC playback on a Pi running Rasbian as opposed to something like Openelec?
[13:22] <Dyskette> There is a gui - startx will bring it up - but it's not really much good without local input devices
[13:22] <ShiftPlusOne> there's x forwarding and vnc which is what you might be interested in, but 'just terminal' is more than good enough (it's better)
[13:22] <Dyskette> And yeah, you can pretty trivially install and run a vnc x server, if you want a gui over the network
[13:23] <ShiftPlusOne> oh.. and there's synergy as well, which is excellent
[13:25] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> I know that using the terminal is good but I just wanted to figure out what things the os provides for people which are gui-users
[13:25] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> you have some links for me?
[13:31] <ShiftPlusOne> Is your pi connected to a tv/monitor? If so, I'd recommend synergy
[13:32] <ShiftPlusOne> if not, then vnc is the easiest alternative
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[13:32] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't have any links, since you can easily look these things up on google... so nothing bookmarked
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[13:45] <Zachie> Up for grabs! Just took 'em (high res jpegs, 4,2MB + 1,8MB) https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24120309/share/rpi-modelB-cc.jpg + https://dl.dropbox.com/u/24120309/share/RPi-modelA.jpg
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[13:55] <ShiftPlusOne> Up for grabs? You're selling them?
[13:55] <ShiftPlusOne> Also, judging by your credit card, I think your bank might be shady.
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[14:05] <Zachie> no you can them and do whatever you want with them :)
[14:05] <Zachie> take*
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[14:15] <ShiftPlusOne> O_o what's the deal with that?
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[14:18] <Zachie> ? If someone would like high res pictures of the pi for blogs, projects, backgrounds etc
[14:18] <Zachie> and the credit card is a toy
[14:19] <ShiftPlusOne> Lol, I know the credit card is a toy. You don't get many real credit cards where all the numbers are sequential >_<
[14:20] <ShiftPlusOne> Was just trying to make sure you weren't trying to sell anything, seemed kind of odd, that's all. But yeah, I am sure a model a high res can be handy to some people, thanks
[14:21] <Zachie> :)
[14:22] <Zachie> i took them as products images for my store, but I don't mind sharing them. :)
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[14:28] <reverendp_> I am trying to download the arm tools from the U of Cambridge website but I am getting a 403 error forbidden when I try to use the terminal to wget to arm-none-eabi tar. Anyone run into that problem?
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[14:35] <ExeciN> I need an idea to # halt my RPi when the battery is down enough.
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[14:36] <ExeciN> Everything that came to my mind wasn't very energy efficient and would make the battery die faster
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[14:49] <SpeedEvil> ExeciN: MOSFET and a comparator
[14:49] <SpeedEvil> ##eelctrpmivs
[14:49] <SpeedEvil> ##electronics
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[14:57] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> can you tell me what I have to pay attention to when I connect a LED to the GPIO? Can I connect a LED without resistance or will that break my pi?
[14:57] <SpeedEvil> you need a resistor
[14:58] <SpeedEvil> call it 470 ohms or so
[14:59] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> hmm I found a LED and don't have any docs about it ... now I don't know what resistor I need
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[15:01] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> So I connect the LED to 3,3V and use a 470 ohm resistor? would that work?
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[15:04] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[15:04] <gordonDrogon> might be a bit dim, but it'll be safe.
[15:04] <mgottschlag> to compute the proper resistor, you'd need a voltage meter if you don't know the led
[15:04] <gordonDrogon> what colour is the LED?
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[15:05] <gordonDrogon> generic red/green nd most yellows will be fine with a 220 to 330?? resistor.
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[15:05] <gordonDrogon> you might want to look at this too: https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/tux-crossing/gpio-examples-1-a-single-led/
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[15:07] <[deXter]> Anyone tried NetBSD 6.1 on the Pi yet?
[15:07] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> the LED color is yellow and it is a LED which was used in a ATX case to show the LAN Status ...
[15:08] <gordonDrogon> Martin-I-DE-NRW, ok - just connect it up with a resistor.
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[15:08] <gordonDrogon> [deXter], I left *BSD land in the mid-90's... Don't really have a reason to go back there that I can think of!
[15:09] <[deXter]> gordonDrogon, Well I think performance could be a big reason
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[15:09] <gordonDrogon> [deXter], I really doubt it's significantly faster than linux.
[15:09] <gordonDrogon> if it were, people would be blabbing about it.
[15:09] <[deXter]> gordonDrogon, Well on a low-end machine like the Pi it could make all the difference
[15:10] <[deXter]> 6.1 was only announced recently, plus it's BSD, not many people like to go there..
[15:10] <Viper-7> Martin-I-DE-NRW: 220 ohms is usually fine for driving most LEDs from 5V, at 3.3V it should be ok with just about everything. i`d say 470 is a bit much
[15:10] <gordonDrogon> [deXter], not convinced - anyway, that's still not a good reason for me to look at it again.
[15:10] <[deXter]> well, I'll give it a go then and see how it is. :)
[15:10] <gordonDrogon> [deXter], good luck :)
[15:11] <[deXter]> thanks. :)
[15:11] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> Viper-7: can you give me the color code of a suitable resistor ... :)
[15:11] <Viper-7> red red brown
[15:11] <mgottschlag> Martin-I-DE-NRW: there are resistor color code calculators as well as led resistor calculators out there (although both is pretty simple to do manually)
[15:12] <Viper-7> starts in red, orange or yellow, 2nd digit doesnt really matter, 3rd should be brown, last doesnt matter (for 4 band resistors)
[15:14] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> mgottschlag: I only found calculators which give me the ohm when I know the color code but not the other side
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[15:22] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> I have two resistors one 100 ohms and one 170 ohms ... can I put them in a row to get 270 ohms?
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[15:29] <Viper-7> yep
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[15:37] <mrmoney2012> how do i know if my wifi usb dongle is wlan0 or wlan1 etc
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[15:41] <dcorona_irc_2020> mrmoney try ifconfig
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[15:46] <gordonDrogon> Martin-I-DE-NRW, yes, but check that 170?? resistor - 170 is not a standard resistor value.
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[16:02] <dysoco> Do you know if there's a channel for Minecraft: Pi edition? I have a friend who has some problems with it and isn't familiar with IRC.
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[16:38] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> gordonDrogon: might be some other value ... I'm a little bit color-blind so it could be something else :P both resistors only made a verry dimmed light, i romeoved one of them and got a wonderful light :) using python I have a blinking light ;)
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[16:39] <Viper-7> Martin-I-DE-NRW: :/
[16:39] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> Viper-7: ??
[16:39] <Viper-7> using a lower resistor value than rated could damage your pi
[16:39] <Viper-7> and most certainly the LED
[16:40] <Viper-7> better to add too much resistance and have the LED a little dim
[16:40] <Viper-7> if you really cant tell, check resistor values with a meter? or take a photo of the resistors and post online?
[16:42] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> little dim is ok but what I had was close to nothing ...
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[16:43] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> I just disconnected the LED from my pi and closed for today
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[16:45] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> if I had damaged something I would have noticed directly?
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[16:50] <Viper-7> maybe
[16:50] <Viper-7> damage to the pi with that is quite unlikely
[16:50] <Viper-7> but still not something you really want to risk
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[16:53] <Viper-7> the GPIO pins on the pi arent nearly as robust as on most other microcontrollers, they`re entirely unbuffered / unprotected, they`re direct lines to the cpu pins
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[16:54] <Tanrax> someone has installed an irc server?
[16:54] <Viper-7> o.O why?
[16:55] <Tanrax> Because I'd like to know what you recommend me
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[16:56] <Viper-7> why would you want to run an irc server?
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[16:56] <Viper-7> use one of the hundreds of existing and globally redundant networks
[16:56] <Viper-7> just use a client :P
[16:56] <mfletcher> Anyone got any good links on recovering a corrupted sdcard connected to a raspi? Or do I just have to erase the card and start from scratch again?
[16:57] <Tanrax> Because I have my own, and learn: D
[16:58] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> Viper-7: of course it is nothing I really want to risk. I think I used a 100ohm resistor
[16:58] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> brown black brown gold
[16:58] <Viper-7> Martin-I-DE-NRW: yeah too low
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[16:59] <Viper-7> that would allow 33mA, more than enough to kill most LEDs, and almost twice what the RPi is rated as capable of outputting
[17:00] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> ok, next time I'll use some higher resistor ...
[17:00] <mgottschlag> Viper-7: usually the voltage drop is >1V
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[17:00] <Viper-7> mgottschlag: ?
[17:01] <mgottschlag> you have only 3.3V - V_LED at the resistor
[17:01] <mgottschlag> so the resulting current will be quite a bit lower
[17:01] <Viper-7> thats voltage, not current
[17:01] <mgottschlag> probably lower than 20mA which is in the operating area of most LEDs
[17:01] <babylonlurker> Tanrax : iirc there is an "ircd" in the repository, I have mine running on the Pi, just not opened through the router
[17:02] <mgottschlag> still, the voltage drop at the LED is constant, so the ratio of V_resistor/resistance is important
[17:02] <babylonlurker> so only on my LAN
[17:02] <Viper-7> mgottschlag: the voltage drop across the resistor changes
[17:02] <Viper-7> the current flowing through the circuit does not
[17:02] <mgottschlag> of course it does
[17:02] <Viper-7> (with differences in LED)
[17:02] <bertrik> ohm's law applied to driving LEDs should be used as a captcha on web sites involving electronics ???
[17:03] <mgottschlag> ohm's law applies to all resistors, no matter whether they are in series with a diode :)
[17:03] <Viper-7> exactly
[17:03] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> is there a way to check if the pi is ok? any tools or something?
[17:03] <mgottschlag> and ohm's law talks about the voltage *at the resistor*
[17:03] <mgottschlag> which in turn very much depends on the voltage at the diode
[17:04] <mgottschlag> because the voltages together are 3.3V
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[17:05] <bertrik> sorry, I was being a bit too harsh with that remark
[17:06] <mgottschlag> actually, I misread it ^^
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[17:06] <mgottschlag> bertrik: true @ ohm's law statement
[17:07] <mgottschlag> actually, diodes aren't exactly simple
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[17:10] <mgottschlag> resistors usually are taught in school, while diodes usually aren't
[17:11] <gordonDrogon> FWIW: I think the Pi's a bit more robust that it might appear - it's not totally bomb proof, but ...
[17:11] <Hodapp> they only let current flow one way! except for when they don't!
[17:11] <Viper-7> mgottschlag: a 100 ohm resistor on a 3.3V source will allow up to 33mA to flow. If the LED sinks away voltage then yes, less current will flow too
[17:11] <gordonDrogon> e.g. I've pulled more than 35mA out of a GPIO pin in the past and the Pi lived to tell the tale :)
[17:12] <Viper-7> connect that 100 ohm resistor between the GPIO pin and ground, and you`re burning 0.1W of power at the resistor, which is more than the GPIO is rated to deliver
[17:12] <Viper-7> depending on the size of the LED, that may be in a damaging range, or maybe not
[17:12] <gordonDrogon> back to the soldering..
[17:12] <Viper-7> in truth the GPIO outputs *are* current limited, and can be sunk directly to ground without causing immediate failure, but i wouldnt trust them to stay like that for long
[17:13] <gordonDrogon> er, they're not really current limited...
[17:13] <Hodapp> sure they are! they just use the entire Pi as a fuse!
[17:13] <gordonDrogon> :)
[17:13] <mgottschlag> :D
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> You can reboot a Pi by connecting a GPIO pin to ground and turning it in.
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> I don't recommend it, but I've done it.
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[17:15] <Martin-I-DE-NRW> so I'm just starting with electro-technics ... is there a way to save the pi from my mistakes?! :) any addons with fuses or something?! :P
[17:16] <mgottschlag> there is a wiki page about that
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[17:16] <mgottschlag> optocouplers or driver ICs could be used for some decoupling
[17:17] <gordonDrogon> just be careful.
[17:17] <gordonDrogon> double check your wiring...
[17:17] <gordonDrogon> You could buy a Gertboard or a Quick2Wire IO board for some protection though.
[17:18] <gordonDrogon> the latter is self-assembly though.
[17:18] <schnuws> is it really that easy to damage a microprocessor?
[17:18] <gordonDrogon> yes )-:
[17:18] <gordonDrogon> schnuws, connect 5v to a Pi's GPIO pin and it's toast.
[17:18] <mgottschlag> I haven't succeded at it yet though even though I tend to be very careless
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[17:18] <gordonDrogon> or connect 5v to the 3.3v pin...
[17:18] <gordonDrogon> I seem to have gotten away with a lot too.
[17:19] <gordonDrogon> but I know someone who blew up their Pi and gertboard...
[17:19] <Viper-7> http://www.scribd.com/doc/101830961/GPIO-Pads-Control2
[17:19] <gordonDrogon> They connected 12v AC to the motor controller rather than DC..
[17:19] <gordonDrogon> Viper-7, that's not a current limiter.
[17:19] <Viper-7> the bigger issue is trying to draw more than ~50mA in total from all GPIO pins combined
[17:19] <Viper-7> gordonDrogon: i know
[17:19] <schnuws> well, that is obvious, but if we don't play with outside power sources, is it easy then?
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[17:19] <Viper-7> gordonDrogon: that link even explains the difference, which is why i posted it
[17:20] <gordonDrogon> schnuws, you just need to talk care wiring into the gpio connector.
[17:20] <gordonDrogon> make sure you don't mistake 3.3v for 5v, etc.
[17:20] <Viper-7> a drive strength of 16mA means:
[17:20] <Viper-7> If you set the pad high you can draw up to 16mA and we still guarantee that the output voltage will be >=1.3V.
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[17:20] <Viper-7> What is a safe current?
[17:20] <Viper-7> All the electronics of the pads are designed for 16mA. That is a safe value under which youwill not damage the device. Even if you set the drive strength to 2mA and then load it so16mA comes out that will not damage the device. Other than that there is no guaranteed maximum safe current.
[17:20] <schnuws> will it hurt with 4v ?
[17:21] <gordonDrogon> schnuws, please be the first to try it and report back to us.
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[17:21] <schnuws> Got a atmega running on 4x 1.5v's
[17:21] * gordonDrogon shows the usual photo: http://unicorn.drogon.net/pi17leds.jpg
[17:22] <gordonDrogon> schnuws, via a regulator, or direct?
[17:22] <schnuws> direct
[17:22] <gordonDrogon> schnuws, you probably get away with it - I think 5.5v is their limit.
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[17:22] <schnuws> 6 I think
[17:22] <schnuws> but recommended 5
[17:22] <Viper-7> gordonDrogon: so according to released errata of the bcm2835, that was a damaging level of current draw in that photo
[17:22] <schnuws> so, is the 3.3 recommended or limit?
[17:23] <gordonDrogon> Viper-7, who knows. it ran like that for a day..
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[17:23] <Viper-7> schnuws: consider it a limit :P
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[17:24] <Viper-7> use a buffer, or level shifter, or a resistor + zener shunt, or a potential divider, or or or
[17:24] <schnuws> fair enough ^^
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[18:01] <Tanrax> someone has installed a quake server?
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[18:02] <vis> is it worth allocating any ram to the gpu when running xbmc?
[18:02] <|Jeroen|> lol, a pi quake tournament sounds like fun
[18:02] <|Jeroen|> yes vis you need at least 128
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[18:03] <mjr> xbmc kinda does use the gpu a lot
[18:03] <vis> Jeroen: would it make sense to allocate a large amount to xbmc? I have plenty to spare atm, but I didn't know if xbmc uses the gpu
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[18:04] <|Jeroen|> yeah i usaly go for 256
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[18:06] <vis> oddly, actually, I have gpu_mem_512=316 in my config.txt but there appears to be 462MB total :s
[18:06] <vis> wouldn't that line imply that 316 be allocated to the gpu and 196 be available generally?
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[18:12] <vis> weird
[18:16] <elek> GPIO.setmode(GPIO.BCM) <- does anyone know what that is doing? I'm trying to port some logic to a Mono service
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[18:17] <Amadiro> vis, welcome to the wonderful world of confusingly mixed prefixes
[18:17] <Amadiro> vis, also, if you run xbmc, you probably want to give at least 128MiB to the VC.
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[18:23] <mrmoney2012> hi chaps??? bit of bash script help please - line 6, how do i reference the repeat variable ? http://pastie.org/6322956
[18:23] <mrmoney2012> it's not working right now - just loops once
[18:23] <ParkerR> mrmoney2012, What script?
[18:23] <ParkerR> You just joined
[18:23] <mrmoney2012> pastie is there.
[18:23] <ParkerR> Oh
[18:24] <mrmoney2012> love servo blaster??? having fun twisting a plastic skeletons head around !
[18:24] <mrmoney2012> totally useless - must think of good use !
[18:25] <mrmoney2012> got wifi working on the pi for first time today also - tried two dongles - first one was power hungry i think second not - i can run it straight off the pi USB!
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[18:25] <mrmoney2012> is REPEAT a keyword ?
[18:26] <ParkerR> mrmoney2012, Trying making the first reference rpt then in the for loop do $rpt
[18:26] <mrmoney2012> ok
[18:26] <mrmoney2012> nope just runs once.
[18:27] <mrmoney2012> this is wrong i guess???. for i in {1..$RPT}
[18:27] <mrmoney2012> when i do ??? for i in {1..5}
[18:27] <mrmoney2012> it works
[18:27] <mrmoney2012> (loops 5 times that is)
[18:28] <applegekko> while true
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[18:28] <ParkerR> mrmoney2012, According to this page that should work http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/unix-linux-iterate-over-a-variable-range-of-numbers-in-bash/
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[18:29] <ParkerR> Ohhh
[18:29] <ParkerR> It says that WONT work
[18:29] <mrmoney2012> oops
[18:29] <ParkerR> Well that presents a solution
[18:29] <mrmoney2012> ok.. looking
[18:29] <mrmoney2012> what a palava!
[18:29] <ParkerR> Kinda wish that would say WHY that wont work
[18:30] <gordonDrogon> pavlovas are better..
[18:30] <mrmoney2012> maybe i should do it in python
[18:30] <mrmoney2012> pullovers
[18:30] <ParkerR> "Fixing the original code with eval"
[18:30] <mrmoney2012> or ruby
[18:30] <ParkerR> mrmoney2012, Try the part under that
[18:30] <mrmoney2012> k
[18:31] <mrmoney2012> wish i could check the pi voltages from the command line
[18:31] <mrmoney2012> that would be handy
[18:31] <mrmoney2012> as i connect peripherals would be good to check stability
[18:31] <gordonDrogon> mrmoney2012, so: /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_volts doesn't work for you then?
[18:31] <mrmoney2012> without getting out the multimeter
[18:31] <mrmoney2012> oh.. :-)
[18:31] <mrmoney2012> trying..
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[18:32] <ParkerR> mrmoney2012, I'm not completely sure but there might be a way to have a voltage monitor on the GPIO and have it measure TP1 to TP2
[18:32] <mrmoney2012> '/opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd: error while loading shared libraries: libvcos.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[18:32] <gordonDrogon> mrmoney2012, yea, I just got that too with the lates raspbian update - hang on ..
[18:32] <ParkerR> You can blame the libc6 update for that
[18:33] <mrmoney2012> ok..
[18:34] <gordonDrogon> Hm. libvcos.so is in /opt/vs/lib, but when I put that into /etc/ld.co.conf it's not working
[18:34] <ParkerR> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/opt/vc/lib vcgencmd measure_volts
[18:35] <gordonDrogon> works.
[18:35] <ParkerR> Try that all on one line
[18:35] <mrmoney2012> i went with this btw - for i in $(eval echo "{$START..$END}")
[18:35] <gordonDrogon> 1.2
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[18:35] <ParkerR> mrmoney2012, Worked?
[18:35] <mrmoney2012> volt=1.20V
[18:35] <mrmoney2012> thanks??? 1.20 - is that good bad or ugly ?
[18:35] <gordonDrogon> mrmoney2012, I've always used seq - as in for i in `seq 0 10`; do echo $i; done
[18:35] <ParkerR> So that isn;t the TP1 to TP2
[18:35] <ParkerR> *isn't
[18:36] <gordonDrogon> no- that's core volts.
[18:36] <gordonDrogon> the ones you car e about when overlocking :)
[18:36] <mrmoney2012> peripherals and GPIO messing will alter that figure ?
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[18:36] <mrmoney2012> and what should it be ? and what is the tolerance?
[18:37] <mrmoney2012> more to the point what should i do with my spinning skeletons head - spin when new email arrives - yaaaaawwwwwwwwn!
[18:37] <mrmoney2012> I will connect a PIR, and spin it as people approach!
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[18:42] <gordonDrogon> Hm. forgotten how much I don't like working with stripboard.
[18:42] <gordonDrogon> wish I'd simply prototyped a PCB now.
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[19:57] <b03tz> Hey y'all :)
[19:57] <b03tz> Got a little question, I'm doing this I2C tutorial with the MCP23017 chip...it's all going fine. I can detect the chip and switch an output on/off
[19:57] <b03tz> On: i2cset -y 0 0x20 0x13 0x01
[19:57] <b03tz> Off: i2cset -y 0 0x20 0x13 0x00
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[19:57] <b03tz> Ok cool, but I don't see how 0x01 = gpb1 on and 0x00 = gpb1 off...
[19:58] <b03tz> What would be gpb2 on and off....and 3
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[19:58] <b03tz> Anybody have a tutorial on this bit reading ?
[19:58] <b03tz> I just can't translate it
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[20:20] <b03tz> gordonDrogon got any MCP23017 tuts?
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[20:29] <gordonDrogon> b03tz, hi
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[20:29] <gordonDrogon> nothing like a tutorial yet, but I have some demo code...
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[20:30] <gordonDrogon> b03tz, http://unicorn.drogon.net/q2w.c
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[20:31] <gordonDrogon> you're writing to reg 0x13 - that's an 8-bit output register.
[20:32] <gordonDrogon> writing 0x01 into it will set the first bit, 0x02 will set the 2nd bit, to set bits 1 & 2, then write 0x03
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[20:54] <ikonia> before I start digging, why is xmame-x broken in raspbeian
[20:54] <ohhmaar> Is it possible to connect to my raspi via ftp?
[20:54] <ikonia> ohhmaar: sure
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[20:55] <mdszy> Has anyone done anything interesting involving an iPod Touch + a Raspberry Pi?
[20:55] <ohhmaar> ikonia: how?
[20:55] <ikonia> ohhmaar: install an ftp server
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[21:09] <ohhmaar> ikonia: do you recommend vsftpd?
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[21:12] <ikonia> ohhmaar: always a good choice
[21:12] <ikonia> could someone give a very breif overview of the debian armel and armhf builds and how they relate to raspbeian
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[21:14] <Gorroth> aaaaand now i'm running irssi from my rpi :)
[21:14] <Gorroth> feels good not to be using the mac mini for anything else
[21:14] <ikonia> Gorroth: a nice use
[21:14] <Gorroth> woops. think i have to totally kill screen all over again though
[21:14] <Gorroth> brb
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[21:15] <Gorroth> thanks
[21:15] <Gorroth> i figured it was a good use
[21:15] <Gorroth> and i need to get named properly setup here too
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[21:16] <Gorroth> then the use of this rpi will be basically complete for the time being, unless i setup NIS-like services
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[21:26] <gordonDrogon> Heh.. can you tell what it is yet? http://unicorn.drogon.net/board.jpg
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[21:33] <dwatkins> a robot with three servos, gordonDrogon?
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[21:39] <rikkib> My cam caught an intruder in the computer recycle company
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[21:40] <gordonDrogon> dwatkins, almost - it's 3 stepper motor drivers. just a bit of a prorotype before I commit to a pcb. it'll be hooked up to a Pi.
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[21:43] <gordonDrogon> my aim is to produce a little board with an ATmega, 3 stepper motor drivers, 2 DC motor drivers and a bunch of sensor inputs.
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[21:45] <chupacabra> can one run the pi from usb power on a laptop
[21:46] <tdy_> i've done it for months
[21:46] <tdy_> for what it's worth..
[21:47] <chupacabra> cool. my woman is tired of me having her phone charge cord.
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[21:47] <atouk> time for a new woman. priorities, man!
[21:47] <chupacabra> lolol
[21:47] <mjr> chupacabra, possibly but not necessarily
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[21:48] * chupacabra is just too lazy to go to the shop and grab a phone charger.
[21:49] <chupacabra> Fedora was so nice on pi. think ill try slackware today.
[21:49] <tdy_> for me, it's not even about having/lacking a wall charger, i just do it out of convenience so i can tinker w/o being tethered to some wall
[21:50] <atouk> gordon, these work nicely for stepper drivers http://www.piclist.com/techref/io/stepper/linistep/index.htm
[21:50] <chupacabra> arent you tethered to the display?
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[21:51] <tdy_> on rare occasions
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[21:51] <tdy_> usually i'm just using ssh
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[21:52] <mrmoney2012> tdy_: errr, how are you powering the pi again ?
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[21:52] <chupacabra> usb on laptop
[21:52] <tdy_> laptop usb -> pi micro usb
[21:53] <mrmoney2012> ok.
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[21:55] <rikkib> Wahooo... Caught an intruder
[21:55] <rikkib> My man has nabbed the woman
[21:56] <tdy_> mainly it's b/c i'm testing some accelerometers+gyroscopes, so it's easier to move all of it around
[21:57] <gordonDrogon> atouk, thanks, but I like what I have and I am not a fan of PICs ...
[21:58] <gordonDrogon> atouk, I'm using these: http://www.pololu.com/catalog/product/1182
[21:58] <rikkib> http://122.61.65.146:8081
[21:58] <rikkib> Intruder on cam atm
[21:58] <mrmoney2012> what would one use a stepper motor driver for ?
[21:58] <atouk> driving stepper motors
[21:58] <mrmoney2012> please don't say??? to drive a stepper motor
[21:58] <rikkib> My man is with her and calling the cops I guess
[21:58] <mrmoney2012> haha
[21:59] <gordonDrogon> lots of things - e.g. to drive a little robot about.
[21:59] <gordonDrogon> or a turtle...
[21:59] <atouk> robotics, motion control, cnc machinery, ...
[21:59] <gordonDrogon> 3d printers...
[21:59] <mrmoney2012> servos?
[21:59] <rikkib> Choice...
[21:59] <gordonDrogon> what do you mean by servos?
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[22:00] <mrmoney2012> well like a radio controlled car has a servo for left right and another to control forward and back
[22:00] <gordonDrogon> 'servo' isn't a term I like )-: I can mean many things - but most often it's used for Radio Control type servos.
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[22:00] <mrmoney2012> guess this is different
[22:00] <mrmoney2012> yes rc servos
[22:01] <gordonDrogon> I don't like those - the system of driving them is inaccurate and archaic.
[22:01] <atouk> servos typically have low torque, don't turn 360, and slower speeds
[22:01] <gordonDrogon> the servo motors I used 25+ years ago could snap your leg off.
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[22:01] <atouk> (typically)
[22:01] <tdy_> any recommendations how airflow regulation via the pi? e.g. air compressor -> pi/regulator -> air cushion
[22:02] <tdy_> say i want X pressure for 10 min, then Y pressure for 30 min, change again after 20 more min, etc
[22:02] <tdy_> how=for
[22:03] <gordonDrogon> you need a pressure gauge you can read and some way of controlling the air pressure...
[22:03] <gordonDrogon> not sure I've seen a computer controllable pressure valve...
[22:03] <atouk> and a powered release valve
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[22:04] <atouk> look in the graingers catalog or any process control or industrial control catalog. lots of options
[22:04] * chupacabra used to run pneumatic machines
[22:05] <gordonDrogon> I last did pneumatics 25 years ago - great fun. at least you could usually hear when something was about to crush you - unlike hydraulics )-:
[22:05] <tdy_> we have one of these lying around the workshop http://datasheets.globalspec.com/ds/2009/ControlAir/3704626E-40F1-4B8B-ABB2-FD706CFE3B12
[22:05] <chupacabra> ya, pnuematics is fun
[22:05] <tdy_> but i dunno if that can actually be interfaced with the pi
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[22:06] <gordonDrogon> tdy_, stupid site wants me to register to get the data sheet, but I'm sure you can control it via the Pi,
[22:06] <chupacabra> tdy_, Im sure it can
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[22:13] <tdy_> my inexperience is showing through.. all i've done so far is use some I2C device and an SPI device.. how else do you control devices like this if there's no mention of I2C/SPI in the specs?
[22:14] <tdy_> oh here's a spec sheet w/o registration http://www.controlair.com/downloads/900_spec.pdf
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[22:16] <gordonDrogon> looks like it wasn't a variable voltage input.
[22:17] <gordonDrogon> but the data sheet is lacking in any real detail.
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[22:24] <rikkib> I am on the phone to my client as he walked into him property and he said "Oh there you are. What are you doing on my property" and hung up... But he took his eyes off her while he was calling the police and she ran and escaped.
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[22:27] <rikkib> The police got her... Wahoo my first catch with a Raspberry Pi security camera.
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[22:29] <SwK> rikkib: what camera are you using for that the Pi
[22:29] <rikkib> A cheap venus web cam
[22:30] <rikkib> I am sitting 100km away and I though I should check the cam... Just as vlc opened I saw her and rang the client. Ten minutes later he caught her.
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[22:31] <rikkib> Great bit of excitement on a Sunday morning
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[22:31] <rikkib> We knew he had intruder issues as I had her on cam before
[22:32] <rikkib> I guess she will be up on multiple charges of breaking and entering
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[22:32] <rikkib> Wahoo
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[22:36] <SpeedEvil> rikai: :-)
[22:36] <SpeedEvil> what's the facility?
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[22:38] <uchobby> Hello everyone. Had anyone USB Teathered an IPhone to the R-Pi? I have tethering working with Android and my IPhone shows up at eth1 so I'm close. But dhclient does not get an IP address from the IPhone
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[22:40] <rikai> SpeedEvil: i'll assume that was a mistab. ;)
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[22:46] <rikkib> SpeedEvil, PC recycle company in NZ. My proof of concept RPi web cam site.
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[22:47] <gregd> guys, I got a problem with my pi (512mb): meminfo reports only 128mb ram, and I got my gpu mem set to 256 ... where is the another 128mb ram gone?
[22:48] <rikkib> Man she saw real unlucky... I was checking the cam was going and just as VLC opened I saw her. Now she is in police custody. Haha good job. I hate thieves.
[22:48] <rikkib> was
[22:48] <mdszy> asj
[22:48] <mdszy> whoops
[22:51] <KiltedPi> Yay. Raspberry is booting up
[22:51] <KiltedPi> How do you enter the OS?
[22:51] <KiltedPi> Oh lol
[22:51] <KiltedPi> Nm
[22:51] <KiltedPi> it's booting now after a restart
[22:51] <KiltedPi> it booted into console at first
[22:51] <treeherder> just make sure you kill it with a shutdown -h
[22:52] <treeherder> don't just unplug it
[22:52] <treeherder> or you'll be sorry
[22:52] <KiltedPi> eek
[22:52] <KiltedPi> why what happens?
[22:53] <treeherder> you will eventually intorduce errors into your sd card
[22:53] <treeherder> what with high density data storage
[22:53] <treeherder> you'll end up having to reburn a n ew img
[22:53] <KiltedPi> roger that treeherder
[22:53] <KiltedPi> I've got a dad like gordondrogon, who is good with electronics, and he's helping me build an LED test circuit.
[22:54] * KiltedPi is happy!
[22:54] <KiltedPi> Can't wait.
[22:54] <KiltedPi> Gonna play some games on it in the meantime i think
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[23:13] <neirpyc> Hey guys, does anyone currently run XBMC on top of Rasbian? How is it compared to running something like the stand-alone Openelec image??
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[23:15] <ShiftPlusOne> I think you'll have to try it out for yourself
[23:15] <neirpyc> Yeah, was just wondering if other people had. =)
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[23:16] <neirpyc> I'm running Openelec with the rtorrent service add-on but there are other things I would like to have my Pi doing during the day when it's not downloading something. Openelec just doesn't have the terminal for it, unfortunately.
[23:16] <ShiftPlusOne> Wouldn't trust a random person to report performance accurately anyway. You'll have people saying xbmc is amazing and works fast, and others saying it lags too much. You don't know if people used the same video for comparison and so on.... so... just try it yourself.
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[23:17] <neirpyc> Cool, thanks.
[23:17] <ShiftPlusOne> there are also other xbmc distros like xbian and raspbmc
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[23:18] <gordonDrogon> KiltedPi, am I that old?
[23:19] <gordonDrogon> still - my stepper motor drivers work just fine.
[23:19] <ShiftPlusOne> neirpyc, report back if you give it a go, so that if anyone else asks, I can tell them something more helpful.
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[23:23] <neirpyc> ShiftPlusOne, will do, haha. Will probably be my project this week when I have time.
[23:24] <ShiftPlusOne> thanks
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[23:39] <ohhmaar> my external hard drive isn't being recognized by the raspi. I created a directory to mount it but in df -h the hdd doesnt show up.
[23:40] <ShiftPlusOne> check dmesg
[23:40] <ShiftPlusOne> did you actually mount it or did you just make a directory?
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[23:48] <ohhmaar> well i made a directory so when i went to mount it, it said total: 0
[23:49] <tdy_> "when i went to mount it" means what exactly?
[23:49] <tdy_> what was the command?
[23:49] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, there's some sense missing
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[23:50] <KiltedPi> What do i type to download pygame 3.3 from BASH?
[23:50] <KiltedPi> :(
[23:50] <KiltedPi> I dunno how you download things in unix
[23:51] <KiltedPi> sudo something...
[23:51] <KiltedPi> erm
[23:51] <Nik05> aptitude seach pygame
[23:51] <Nik05> ?
[23:51] <tdy_> raspbian? arch? pip?
[23:51] <ShiftPlusOne> KiltedPi, pause for a second there
[23:51] <KiltedPi> raspbian yup
[23:51] <ShiftPlusOne> 'apt-cache search pygame' will do a search to find packages containing pygame
[23:51] <KiltedPi> apt!
[23:51] <ShiftPlusOne> 'apt-get install packagename' will install the package called packagename
[23:51] <KiltedPi> Thats the one... i'm new to this linux business
[23:52] <pksato> KiltedPi: most used command to download any things on linux is wget.
[23:52] <Nik05> apt-cache is probably faster
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[23:52] <KiltedPi> I've used some linux
[23:52] <KiltedPi> Like cisco iOS
[23:52] <KiltedPi> When you type ?
[23:52] <ShiftPlusOne> pksato, don't confuse the poor guy.
[23:52] <KiltedPi> "?"
[23:52] <KiltedPi> like, <space> ?
[23:52] <KiltedPi> how come it doesnt bring up help?
[23:53] <Nik05> what...?
[23:53] <ShiftPlusOne> what are you typing before the space?
[23:53] <tdy_> in which environment does <space>? bring up help?
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[23:53] <DeliriumTremens> because you aren't using cisco ios
[23:53] <KiltedPi> just any command... like apt-get<space>?
[23:53] <KiltedPi> heh
[23:53] <DeliriumTremens> apt-get --help
[23:53] <Nik05> lol
[23:53] <ShiftPlusOne> KiltedPi, meet 'man'
[23:54] <KiltedPi> -- help
[23:54] <Nik05> man apt-get
[23:54] <KiltedPi> Ah ha!
[23:54] <ShiftPlusOne> try 'man apt-get'
[23:54] <DeliriumTremens> stop with all the spaces!
[23:54] * DeliriumTremens steals KiltedPis spacebar
[23:54] <KiltedPi> that did it!
[23:54] <ShiftPlusOne> --help will usually bring up a brief summary
[23:54] <DeliriumTremens> just dont try to conf to get root
[23:54] <ShiftPlusOne> use man to bring up the full manual
[23:55] <DeliriumTremens> conft or whatever
[23:55] <DeliriumTremens> fuck i havent logged into a cisco device in ages
[23:55] <ShiftPlusOne> DeliriumTremens, ey, you're not new! >=/
[23:55] <ShiftPlusOne> surely you know that it's a family friendly channel by now
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[23:55] <DeliriumTremens> ergh, sorry
[23:56] <DeliriumTremens> it's the one channel i go to that is 'clean' -- to be fair i think it's my first slip up in here
[23:56] <DeliriumTremens> :D
[23:56] <pksato> pygame 3.3?
[23:56] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, fair enough, np
[23:57] <sadbox> What class of SD card should one obtain for their pi?
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[23:57] <KiltedPi> yeah 3.3
[23:57] <KiltedPi> class 10
[23:57] <pksato> site of pygame?
[23:57] <sadbox> KiltedPi: That's good... just saw a couple places reccomending class 4's
[23:57] <sadbox> which seemed... odd
[23:57] <tdy_> i get 1.9.1 in arch, and debian is usually older.. so this sounds like a different thing
[23:59] <pksato> pygame a pynthon modules designed for writing games?
[23:59] <KiltedPi> class 10 is the best class
[23:59] <KiltedPi> Sure are pksato!

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