#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-02-26

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[0:04] <Dyskette> (Link for Ted in case anyone does want it - doesn't seem to be in the Debian repositories, but there are debs on the website: http://www.nllgg.nl/Ted/ )
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[0:12] <KiltedPi> sounds sily-
[0:12] <KiltedPi> But-
[0:12] <KiltedPi> How do run somethin'-
[0:13] <KiltedPi> after I've 'apt-get installed' it?
[0:13] <KiltedPi> i went with gedit in the end :)
[0:13] <subv> its probably buried in the menu somewhere.. or you can alt+f2
[0:13] <subv> and bring up the run prompt
[0:13] <subv> start typing your command there... like gedit
[0:14] <KiltedPi> ah
[0:14] <KiltedPi> no joy still
[0:14] <KiltedPi> But the apt-get did generate a load of nonsense
[0:15] <KiltedPi> I'm not using GNOME either-
[0:15] <KiltedPi> I'm using Raspbian- would that affect it?
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[0:19] <subv> KiltedPi: hit alt+f2 type xterm
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[0:19] <subv> in the window type sudo apt-get install gedit
[0:19] <subv> then when its done in that same window type gedit
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[0:19] <anew> so i have xming running, and i'm in putty, but when i type startx ... nothing happens?
[0:20] <subv> anew: try xeyes
[0:20] <subv> see if that pops up the eyes
[0:20] <anew> command not found
[0:20] <subv> what is another command...
[0:20] <subv> type xterm
[0:21] <anew> command not found also
[0:21] <subv> what distro are you running on the sd?
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[0:21] <subv> what came prebundled?
[0:21] <subv> rasbian wheezy?
[0:21] <anew> ys
[0:21] <anew> wheezy
[0:21] <Dyskette> It doesn't use xterm
[0:21] <Dyskette> Is it like lxterm or something it has instead?
[0:22] <anew> : 2013-02-09-wheezy-raspbian.zip
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[0:22] <Dyskette> The lxde terminal anyway
[0:22] <Dyskette> (lxterminal I think it is, actually)
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[0:23] <KiltedPi> ta
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[0:32] <anew> oh sweet
[0:32] <anew> lxsession
[0:32] <anew> did it
[0:33] <anew> and i installed some packages
[0:33] <anew> blindly lol
[0:33] <anew> but it takes up the whole screen have to figure out how to resize now
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[1:06] <RiXtEr> Hey guys, just got my first pi, loaded up my sd card (using dd from ubuntu) and it looked to be ok, hooked it all up and I get nothing on my screen... how long should it take for something to come up ?
[1:06] <pksato> RiXtEr: hdmi?
[1:07] <RiXtEr> pksato, tried both
[1:07] <RiXtEr> pksato, hdmi never 'kicks on' my monitor...
[1:08] <RiXtEr> it just flashes like its waiting for input.
[1:08] <pksato> ACT led flash?
[1:08] <RiXtEr> no, just power, should act only flash with network though?
[1:08] <RiXtEr> (and is network required?)
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[1:08] <IT_Sean> ntwk is NOT required
[1:08] <IT_Sean> how did you write the image to the SD card?
[1:09] <RiXtEr> ok thanks :)
[1:09] <IT_Sean> Oh, you said DD from 'buntu, nevermind
[1:09] <IT_Sean> Okay... is ACT flashing?
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[1:09] <RiXtEr> http://paste.ubuntu.com/5566387/
[1:09] <IT_Sean> If ACT isn't flashing, it sounds like it isn't reading your SD card.
[1:09] <RiXtEr> looks like a good write...
[1:10] <RiXtEr> let me see if ubuntu sees the info on the card.
[1:10] <linuxstb> RiXtEr: You should write to /dev/sdb, not /dev/sdb1
[1:10] <ShiftPlusOne> RiXtEr, bad RiXtEr, bad!
[1:10] <ShiftPlusOne> write to the disk, not the partition
[1:10] <RiXtEr> ah
[1:10] <RiXtEr> done this before... ;) /me facepalms :)
[1:11] <RiXtEr> not my first DD mistake :)
[1:11] <RiXtEr> thanks guys!
[1:11] <ShiftPlusOne> you're the second one today to do the same thing
[1:11] <RiXtEr> well, I am not new to linux... so i really feel bad now... ugh.
[1:11] <ShiftPlusOne> heh
[1:11] <RiXtEr> too exicted to get it booting to pay close attention :)
[1:12] <pksato> I some times try do create parttion on partition device (fdisk /dev/sda1)
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[1:12] <RiXtEr> well.. 401 seconds from now I have a new card ;)
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[1:13] <RiXtEr> so is there no 'bios' screen on this ?
[1:13] <pksato> no.
[1:14] <RiXtEr> ok thanks again!
[1:14] <Firehopper> okay, how do I make it so the wifi auto connects on boot?
[1:14] <pksato> RPi dont have onboard rom like memory.
[1:14] <Firehopper> I used X to get it working, but how do I make it auto connect? or does it do that now?
[1:14] <pksato> except. gpu rom mask.
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[1:22] <subv> anyone have experience with openELEC and mysql DB... im trying to get the library to use the DB..
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[1:22] <subv> http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Sync_multiple_libraries/Setting_up_MySQL and http://wiki.xbmc.org/index.php?title=HOW-TO:Sync_multiple_libraries/Setting_up_XBMC
[1:22] <subv> i used those links
[1:22] <ShiftPlusOne> sraue, *cough* ^
[1:22] <subv> sraue :)
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[1:27] <lastebil> just wondering if anyone else noted that the steam linux thing is distributing the Conquest of Elesium 3 raspberry pi binary.
[1:27] <lastebil> (probaby on osX and Windows too, dunno, haven't downloaded it there (: )
[1:28] * lastebil also can't spell Elesium.
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[1:28] <ShiftPlusOne> steam? raspberry pi? wha?
[1:28] <lastebil> yeah, I was shocked - I noted the "arm" file there, and - well, started looking (:
[1:28] <lastebil> developers added support for the pi in January - turns out, apparently, the steam bundle sends the pi version over when you download thru steam.
[1:29] <ShiftPlusOne> Sounds plausible... I thought you were insane there for a second. Nice!
[1:29] <lastebil> well, I'm not sure I'm _not_ insane, but I did have to double check myself (:
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[1:30] <ShiftPlusOne> Looks wesnothy
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[1:31] <lastebil> it's ... kinda wesnothy, but less hex and more "17 different beings with different skill trees"
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[1:32] <lastebil> from a "wargame" perspective, yes, it suffers from the 'diagonals should cost more but don't' thing, but as terrain affects that more, it evens out.
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[1:33] <lastebil> anyway, thought it was interesting as it's some folks actively developing for the pi (:
[1:34] <lastebil> (also I noted I'd have to twiddle some things to get it to run under arch, it's staticly linked and runs fine on raspbian, but arch will need some fiddling.)
[1:35] <lastebil> on another note, watched the weyland thing from linux.au and the pi was mentioned there for Weyland. Tried to build it, but it's progressed a bit and the build instructions on the weyland site no longer work.
[1:35] <lastebil> found another fellow's binary builds on the pi forums - wondering if anyone here has fiddled with them and if they still work on the latest pi firmware/raspbian.
[1:35] * lastebil is ok if no one has, he can test (:
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[1:38] <RiXtEr> Awesome, xnest from my ubuntu machine to my Pi :)
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[1:50] <wictor> hi
[1:50] <wictor> hello?
[1:51] <RiXtEr> hello wictor
[1:51] <wictor> how are you?
[1:52] <RiXtEr> fine and yourself?
[1:52] <wictor> I'm good
[1:52] <wictor> playing with the raspberry pi..
[1:52] <RiXtEr> me too..
[1:53] <Kanerix> Mine's playing movies
[1:53] <wictor> what do you do?
[1:53] <RiXtEr> Well, I just got it booted... so nothing yet.
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[1:53] <wictor> raspbmc?
[1:53] <RiXtEr> but getting ready to grab my breadboard from the basement and some little pieces of cat5 and play with some hardware...
[1:54] <wictor> oh nice
[1:54] <wictor> do you know adafruit?
[1:54] <RiXtEr> I have read a bit about things they sell..
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[1:54] <RiXtEr> I have a breakout board and new breadboard headed this way.
[1:54] <wictor> it isn't about "selling"
[1:55] <wictor> they teach too
[1:55] <wictor> visit http://learn.adafruit.com/
[1:55] <RiXtEr> (right now I have an old 34 pin floppy cable I may mess with until my stuff arrives)
[1:55] <wictor> Raspberry Pi section, you might find some interesting stuff
[1:55] <RiXtEr> Nice
[1:57] <Kanerix> openelec, actually
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[1:58] <wictor> Kanerix: Do you use Raspbmc?
[1:58] <Kanerix> No.
[1:58] <Kanerix> OpenElec.
[1:58] <wictor> What is that?
[1:59] <wictor> what's the difference?
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[2:00] <Kanerix> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=openelec
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[2:01] <subv> hahah let me google that for you dot com lol
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[2:02] <RiXtEr> Kanerix, thought at least you'd run that through goo.gl ;)
[2:02] * Kanerix shrugs
[2:02] <Kanerix> Why be subtle?
[2:03] <RiXtEr> http://goo.gl/yudnE
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[2:04] <wictor> ;)
[2:04] <wictor> I was reading the website!
[2:04] <senoraraton> I have been looking for information on the video card on the raspberry PI. Is the PI able to play videos from a USB external hard drive?
[2:05] <pksato> can do.
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[2:05] <senoraraton> Are there any concerns? Will it support any HDMI monitor I hook it up to?
[2:06] <pksato> yes
[2:06] <Kanerix> senoraraton: it's a SOC. Essentially, the processor IS the gpu and cpu
[2:06] <Kanerix> and every other component
[2:06] <pksato> use powered external HDD.
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[2:06] <Kanerix> The machine will only boot from the SD Card
[2:07] <Kanerix> but external storage works fine, as long as it is externally powered. Otherwise, you'll brownout the board and weird things happen
[2:07] <senoraraton> I'm not booting from the hard drive, just using it to host videos.
[2:07] <Kanerix> as pksato mentioned
[2:07] <Kanerix> yeah, should work
[2:07] <Kanerix> I don't know what kind of performance you'll get, but still
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[2:10] <senoraraton> I could code a bluetooth remote to control an interface that would allow me to browse the directory and select/play/pause movies/music right?
[2:10] <Kanerix> That's a lot of work
[2:10] <pksato> senoraraton: RPi is a computer, like anu others, but, very small.
[2:11] <Kanerix> It's also not x86 architecture
[2:11] <senoraraton> I was wondering about components though, I will need an external bluetooth adapter right?
[2:11] <Kanerix> There is no wireless communication in the device whatsoever
[2:11] <Kanerix> There are USB ports
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[2:13] <pksato> if you can use bt to control programas on you linux desktop computer. also, it's can do on RPi.
[2:13] <Kanerix> Aye. You may need to recompile it, though
[2:13] <pksato> and, video decoding is made aways by GPU.
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[2:14] <Kanerix> Well, GPU/CPU
[2:14] <Kanerix> SoC
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[2:15] <jackmackg> I got my pi two days ago. I am happy
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[2:53] <karadorde> jackmackg: likewise. mine arrived on friday. just started tinkering with it yesterday after picking up some supplies.
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[2:55] <laffer> int?
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[2:56] * Firehopper has been tinkering with mine over the weekend
[2:57] <Firehopper> at least now I have the wifi thing :)
[2:57] <Firehopper> so now all I need is power and wifi and I can ssh into it :)
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[2:58] <karadorde> i thought about purchasing a usb/wifi adapter. but i am fine with hardwiring into it i think
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[2:58] <karadorde> i will probably mount it right next to my switch
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[2:58] <Firehopper> I didnt have any spare ports
[2:58] <Firehopper> would have needed a switch
[2:59] <karadorde> i had an old one laying around that i wired in just the other day. otherwise i'd be in the same boat.
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[2:59] <Firehopper> tivo, 360, pc, and magic jack
[2:59] <Firehopper> so I needed a usb wifi dongle
[3:00] <karadorde> Firehopper: what did you have to do to get wifi working?
[3:00] <karadorde> was it a pain?
[3:00] <karadorde> what operating system are you using?
[3:02] <Firehopper> I'm running raspbian
[3:03] <Firehopper> and I plugged it in, startx and clicked on the wifi thing. scanned for my ap, and connected..
[3:03] <Firehopper> then exited x
[3:03] <Firehopper> and it was working, rebooted and it auto connected after reboot..
[3:03] <Firehopper> dont know what I did. :)
[3:04] <karadorde> ah, didn't know if you had to tweak anything in a settings file or something to that effect.
[3:04] <Firehopper> I didnt..
[3:04] <Firehopper> dont know if you do..
[3:04] <Firehopper> it was a usb thing I got off ebay.. paid $10 for it
[3:04] <Firehopper> and it seems to work just fine
[3:04] <karadorde> not sure if i would. i would have to tinker down the line if i bought a wifi dongle
[3:05] <Firehopper> its a n adaptor
[3:05] <karadorde> connects fine over ethernet
[3:05] <Firehopper> I have only g wifi :)
[3:05] <karadorde> time to upgrade that router
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[3:05] <karadorde> i will be installing openssh and tinkering once i am done working on the current project for the night
[3:05] <Firehopper> its a dumb verizon modem/router/wifi thingy :)
[3:05] <karadorde> actually, not sure if i need openssh. my OS may have ssh installed by default.
[3:05] <karadorde> ah, damn
[3:06] <Firehopper> raspbian had ssh installed ,I just had to turn it on.
[3:06] <karadorde> hmm
[3:07] <karadorde> i am using Arch. i want to say it has it installed.
[3:07] <karadorde> will have to look later.
[3:08] * Firehopper shrugs
[3:08] <Firehopper> I'm waiting on my 16 port i2c expander
[3:09] <karadorde> O_O
[3:10] <Armand> I'm waiting to build my 10-port busbar..
[3:10] <karadorde> something in mind for that?
[3:10] <Firehopper> kara, not really..
[3:10] <Firehopper> was just something to protect the rpi port
[3:10] <Firehopper> dont wanna burn something out
[3:11] <karadorde> seems fair
[3:11] <karadorde> Armand: not to sound to noobish, but 10 port busbar?
[3:11] <Firehopper> I'm not sure what I wanna do with my rpi yet..
[3:11] * raspy_freenode (~raspy_fre@ Quit (Quit: Leaving.)
[3:11] <Firehopper> did download minecraft for it though.. :)
[3:12] <Firehopper> someone used one to build a quadcopter with..
[3:12] <Armand> karadorde, I'm going to split my 12v power supply into 10 terminals.
[3:12] <Firehopper> I have a hexocopter. running off a arduino mega :)
[3:13] <Armand> I'm using 12v solar plant to power my Pi project. :D
[3:14] <karadorde> O_O
[3:14] <karadorde> wow
[3:14] * karadorde feels insignificant compared to these projects
[3:14] <karadorde> lol
[3:14] <Armand> Yup.. I've got a max ceiling of 30A, so I reckon I can load 60 rPi onto that. ^_^
[3:15] <karadorde> ha
[3:15] * Firehopper is also working on a 1600lumen flashlight :)
[3:15] <Firehopper> using 2 10 watt leds :)
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[3:15] <Armand> Firehopper, 3 second battery? :P
[3:15] <jackmackg> im working on homework. if that counts
[3:15] <karadorde> jackmackg: +1
[3:15] <karadorde> it is killing me at the moment
[3:16] <karadorde> want to tinker with the pi. must work on school first.
[3:16] <Armand> I should be reading up on PHP/MySQL.. but. :P
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[3:16] <TAFB_afk> i heart PHP :)
[3:16] <karadorde> Armand: sounds like more fun than my current coursework
[3:16] <Armand> I hate it.. because I don't know dick about it. :/
[3:16] <karadorde> lol
[3:16] <karadorde> isn't that the way it always goes
[3:16] <Armand> Aside from "keep everything in the < >"
[3:17] * ztag100 (~ztag100@unaffiliated/ztag100) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[3:17] <Armand> But, I can learn as much as I need to know (for now)
[3:18] * karadorde is currently working with C++
[3:18] <Armand> I hate code. :P
[3:18] <karadorde> a wretched wretched programming language
[3:18] <karadorde> i do not do well will low level languages
[3:18] <karadorde> do well with*
[3:18] <mdszy> Armand, you're using a Raspi and you don't know programming and hate it? seems like you're in for some fun.
[3:18] <Armand> I'm happier working with the computers.. I wanna be sysadmin. :P
[3:18] <Armand> mdszy, I use mine as a headless webserver.
[3:18] <mdszy> mm
[3:19] <jackmackg> I find it intresting that the pi takes less power than my desktop when its off
[3:19] <IT_Sean> HEH
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[3:20] <Armand> My desktop draws 0A.. turn off the plugs. :P
[3:20] <karadorde> people turn off their desktops?
[3:20] <Tachyon`> you'll need to know some coding for sysadmining even if it's jsut perl or w/e or you'll be in trouble pretty quick -.o
[3:20] <Armand> That's not quite true, actually.. mine is in storage. :/
[3:20] <jackmackg> karadorde: its hard to install a new graphics card when its on
[3:21] <karadorde> jackmackg: well, i guess i didn't take that into account
[3:21] <karadorde> >_<
[3:21] <jackmackg> lol its k
[3:21] <Armand> Tachyon`, bulk of my work right now, is resetting passwords via WHM and migrating websites.
[3:21] * IT_Sean demonstrates how little powera Armand's desktop pc can draw while sitting at the bottom of a swimming pool
[3:22] * Armand demonstrates how little oxygen IT_Sean consumes at the bottom of the same pool.. with a desk chained to his body.
[3:23] <karadorde> all classes canceled tomorrow due to inclement weather
[3:23] <karadorde> :/
[3:23] * IT_Sean demonstrates how to escape from being chained to a desk at the bottom of a pool and then thonk someone over the head with a soggy PC
[3:23] * Armand envisages the best method to secure someone within a tank of acid.
[3:23] <IT_Sean> lol
[3:23] <karadorde> put a lid on the tank
[3:23] <karadorde> ???
[3:23] <karadorde> profit
[3:24] <IT_Sean> i think you will find that aquiring a tank of acid is a bit difficult
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[3:24] <Armand> I was thinking concrete boots too..
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[3:24] <karadorde> buy tank. buy acid from hardware store.
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[3:24] <IT_Sean> ???
[3:24] <karadorde> maybe not that hard. but rather tedious.
[3:24] <Armand> IT_Sean, my brother works at a place..... ;)
[3:24] <IT_Sean> profit
[3:24] * Firehopper ponders a car pc with the rpi
[3:24] <IT_Sean> rrriight
[3:24] <karadorde> everyone has a brother at a place
[3:24] <Armand> lol
[3:24] <Firehopper> not me :)
[3:24] <Firehopper> I have sisters
[3:24] <Armand> They make beer founts and coolers. :D
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[3:24] <IT_Sean> Firehopper: you'll need a stable 12v -> 5v regulator
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[3:25] <Firehopper> yup
[3:25] <Firehopper> and a touchscreen lcd
[3:25] <IT_Sean> not to mention a way to safely shut it down when you switch off the engine
[3:25] <Armand> I have 2, Firehopper
[3:25] * Firehopper has parts to convert a 17" laptop lcd to hdmi
[3:26] <Firehopper> then I just need a touchscreen for it
[3:26] <Firehopper> or rather I ordered the controll system for the lcd
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[3:28] <Armand> Firehopper, LM2596-based regulator
[3:28] <Armand> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-PCS-LM2596-Power-Step-down-Module-DC-4-0-40-to-1-3-37V-LED-Voltmeter-WST-/271131377887?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item3f20b080df
[3:28] * Firehopper has a ti adjustable switching regulator that would prolly work
[3:28] <Armand> Something like that.
[3:28] <Firehopper> it does 3amps
[3:29] <Armand> That should do it. ;)
[3:29] <Armand> The LM2596 will do about the same
[3:31] <Scriven> I just used a "bec" from the remote control vehicle world. Castle Creations BEC switching VR. Works like a charm, and configurable in .1v increments from 4ish to 12ish output.
[3:31] <Armand> I need to design a box for all 10 of mine.. plus the switching controller and busbar.
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[3:33] <Firehopper> I also seem to possibly need a small fan.. the case I have dont seem to have good cooling
[3:34] <Armand> Yeah, I have to do that too. :/
[3:34] <Firehopper> I'm running 800 mhz
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[3:34] <Armand> I doubt I'll need to cool the rPi..
[3:34] <Firehopper> and just sitting with the case, and wifi. its 46C
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[3:34] <Firehopper> if I put it on top of my pc case, on the huge top fan.. it drops to 32c
[3:35] <ParkerR> TAFB_afk, PING
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[3:35] <Firehopper> I have a tiny 12volt fan I can put on it eventually
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[3:37] <Armand> I have an 8cm fan with a thermal controller
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[4:19] <TAFB_afk> ParkerR: here
[4:20] <TAFB_afk> if you need me, send me a /query
[4:20] <TAFB_afk> I'm using MIRC and don't search the scrollback/logs,s o I'll never kno you ping'd me
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[4:56] <Triffid_Hunter> TAFB_afk: try kvirc sometime instead of mirc :)
[4:57] <ParkerR> TAFB_afk, I forgot now
[4:57] <TAFB_afk> works in winblows?
[4:58] <TAFB_afk> lol! :)
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[5:02] <Triffid_Hunter> TAFB_afk: yeah cross platform, wouldn't suggest so easily otherwise
[5:02] <TAFB_afk> nice
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[5:42] <karadorde> Entering kdb (current=0xcb846c80, pid 1) due to Keyboard Entry
[5:42] <karadorde> kdb> _
[5:42] <karadorde> damn it
[5:43] <karadorde> that's not what i wanted to see tonight
[5:48] <NESIT> bah , i was hoping omxplayer worked without X
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[5:54] <Scriven> it does...
[5:54] <Scriven> I've used it via cli to play audio files.
[5:54] <NESIT> does it work for video?
[5:54] <NESIT> unless this file isnt working
[5:55] <Scriven> Not sure about video, I haven't tried to play that over my ssl connection yet. ;)
[5:55] <piney> i thought it did, never used it though
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[5:57] <NESIT> yep it was my file
[5:58] <NESIT> didnt like the codec i guess
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[5:59] <Triffid_Hunter> NESIT: it bypasses X completely.. fwiw, mplayer also works on terminal using fbcon, is actually faster than in X from what I can see
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[7:29] <mike_t> hello
[7:29] <mike_t> is it possible to write event handler for GPIO?
[7:30] <home> mike_t: I dunno
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[7:44] <Coffe> could one supply the power to the pi in any other way then by the usb ? do it need anything else then +5v ?
[7:45] <SwK> Coffe: i power mine off the usb hub, but make sure you are inputting power via the power in connector, not trying to backfeed it from the USB A ports
[7:45] <SwK> you also need a hub that can handle the power load
[7:46] <Coffe> i dont like yo use usb at all .. if there is any pins i can power feed.
[7:46] <SwK> there are not
[7:46] <Coffe> then i did dream that
[7:46] <piney> I feed my pi through the GPIO pins, but that bypasses all protection and the capacitor, so you would need a good power supply and protection
[7:47] <SwK> there are some hacks to bypass the USB plug, but then you are bypassing power regulation and such
[7:47] <Coffe> i where thinking to buy a good one to power my pi's where thinking of bulding a rig with 5-8 of them .. and then usb power would be stupid
[7:48] <piney> i saw someone powering their pi off the audio jack too, but would never try that one myself and don't recommend it
[7:48] <rikkib> I feed a RPi via a break out board and a dc-dc converter via the gpio 5v line
[7:48] <rikkib> and a 1A polyfuse
[7:49] <SwK> Coffe: you can just get some USB plugs and feed power in that way
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[7:52] <rikkib> 8x700mA=5.6A
[7:52] <rikkib> On the upper side
[7:53] <rikkib> 8x540mA=4.32A
[7:53] <rikkib> Lower headless
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[7:55] <NESIT> i used /opt/vc/bin/tvservice -o to turn off the display through svideo, but i cant get the console back with /opt/vc/bin/tvservice -p
[7:55] <NESIT> anyone know which command i need to bring it back
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[8:10] <Coffe> SwK: i guess that would be more expensive then just power thru the gpio
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[9:24] <dexta> morning
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[10:05] <gordonDrogon> morning...
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[10:21] <gordonDrogon> bit quiet here today then :)
[10:21] <gordonDrogon> or is it just another dull Tueseday!
[10:24] <neilr> Very quiet morning in my shed too - just perfect for making a pot of tea in fact.
[10:29] <gordonDrogon> Hm. not long had breakfast here. will give it an hour or so before coffee No. 2.
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[10:29] <steve_rox> trying to find interesting software to stuff on the pi
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[10:32] <steve_rox> still trying to figure out how to compile this thing
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[10:35] <steve_rox> http://www.gitorious.org/filetea/filetea
[10:35] <steve_rox> that thing
[10:36] <steve_rox> the aptitude prog lists a version but its obsolete
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[10:40] <gordonDrogon> such a shame that url doesn't have an 'about' page as I've really no idea what 'filetea' is ...
[10:40] <steve_rox> its a prog that runs as a webserver for shareing files
[10:40] <gordonDrogon> it took me 3 more clicks to find that.
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[10:41] <gordonDrogon> #fail
[10:41] <steve_rox> like p2p with the pi acting as a inbetween proxy thing
[10:41] <steve_rox> aptitude only gives a alpha version which has issues
[10:42] <steve_rox> i assume there is some make/compile command
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[10:45] <steve_rox> guess no one knows
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[10:47] <booyaa> steve_rox: one sec man I think I've got instruction s
[10:48] <gordonDrogon> can't you just use dropbox?
[10:48] <steve_rox> ive tryed to google how to compile/use it but found nothing
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[10:49] <torpor> g'day rpi'ers
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[10:50] <booyaa> no I've dreamt it sorry Steve
[10:50] <steve_rox> erm okay
[10:50] <booyaa> is this so you can host private browsable repos?
[10:51] <steve_rox> not that i know of
[10:51] <booyaa> the pro git book doesn't cover it
[10:51] <booyaa> this is for a pi so you cant use a ppa right?
[10:52] <steve_rox> i dont know what ppa means
[10:54] <mgottschlag> ppa = ubuntu community repository
[10:55] <steve_rox> i only desired to install a newer version of a program
[10:58] <booyaa> I wish we had ppas in pi community would be nice to get bleeding edge stuff except packages
[10:58] <booyaa> -d+d
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[10:58] <booyaa> steve_rox: why not host with bit bucket they do private repos for gratis
[10:59] <steve_rox> youve lost me now
[10:59] <booyaa> anyone found a way to sync Dropbox on a pi asides mounting an existing vol?
[10:59] <booyaa> why do you want gitorious?
[11:00] <steve_rox> i want the program its hosting called filetea
[11:00] <steve_rox> ive obtained the files but dont know how to compile
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[11:01] <booyaa> doh soz that'll teach me to jump in
[11:01] <steve_rox> yeah aand youve confused the hell out of me
[11:02] <booyaa> awesome the readme is empty
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[11:03] <booyaa> odd looks like they move the official code home (repo) to GitHub
[11:03] <booyaa> take make doesn't work?
[11:03] <booyaa> take it
[11:03] <steve_rox> hence aptitude prog is obsolete
[11:03] <steve_rox> i dont know the commands to compile it
[11:03] <steve_rox> im new to linux
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[11:05] <booyaa> okay type this command in your terminal: git
[11:05] <booyaa> does it work?
[11:06] <steve_rox> yes it display a large list , i used the cmd to get the files
[11:06] <booyaa> so you've got a local copy of filetea?
[11:06] <steve_rox> yeah
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[11:07] <booyaa> what happens when you run make in the directory?
[11:07] <steve_rox> the command make
[11:07] <steve_rox> no targets specifyed
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[11:08] <steve_rox> and no makefile found
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[11:08] <booyaa> k one sec sshing into my pi
[11:16] <cityLights> hi, can anyone offer a gcc cross compiled?
[11:16] <cityLights> I am using gentoo and am looking for a tbz of gcc
[11:17] <cityLights> the reason is that I can't emerge avahi on it
[11:17] <cityLights> other packages emerge fine
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[11:21] <booyaa> denied just lost my connection to pi oh well
[11:21] <steve_rox> fun
[11:21] <linuxstb> cityLights: I don't understand your problem. Do you mean you run Gentoo on your Pi, and avahi won't install, so you want to cross-compile it?
[11:22] <mike_t> steve_rox, I think you must run autogen.sh then configure then make
[11:22] <cityLights> hi linuxstb,
[11:22] <steve_rox> error no autoreconf found
[11:23] <cityLights> I have gentoo on my Pi and want avahi. I can't emerge it so I think gcc is faulty
[11:23] <cityLights> I did emerge many other packages
[11:23] <mike_t> steve_rox, install it
[11:23] <steve_rox> err?
[11:23] <cityLights> here is why I think gcc is faulty:
[11:24] <cityLights> checking whether the armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi-g++ linker (/usr/armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi/bin/ld) supports shared libraries... yes
[11:24] <cityLights> checking dynamic linker characteristics... (cached) GNU/Linux ld.so
[11:24] <cityLights> checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... unsupported
[11:24] <mike_t> steve_rox, apt-get install automake autoconf
[11:24] <cityLights> checking whether the C++ compiler works... no
[11:24] <cityLights> configure: error: in `/var/tmp/portage/net-dns/avahi-0.6.31/work/avahi-0.6.31':
[11:24] <cityLights> configure: error: The C++ compiler does not work
[11:24] <linuxstb> cityLights: Have you installed the C++ compiler?
[11:24] <cityLights> and so I want to cross compile gcc
[11:24] <cityLights> gcc came with the stage 3
[11:25] <steve_rox> installing now
[11:25] <cityLights> I dont have a cross compile enviroment
[11:25] <cityLights> so I tried to build gcc on the Pi - it failed for luck of space
[11:25] <cityLights> lack
[11:26] <steve_rox> retrying sh script
[11:26] <steve_rox> its doing a bit more this time
[11:27] <steve_rox> error
[11:28] <steve_rox> error bypassed
[11:28] <linuxstb> cityLights: Do you have the "g++" command installed? (just type "g++" into the terminal)
[11:29] <cityLights> g++: no input files
[11:29] <linuxstb> cityLights: OK. Then I've no idea - I've never used gentoo.
[11:30] <cityLights> others here use it
[11:30] <steve_rox> configure: error: Package requirements (json-glib-1.0 >= 0.10.0) were not met
[11:30] <mike_t> cityLights, see config.log in /var/tmp/portage/net-dns/avahi-0.6.31/work/avahi-0.6.31
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[11:31] <mike_t> steve_rox, apt-get install libjson-glib-dev
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[11:32] <steve_rox> attempting
[11:34] <steve_rox> heh more missing package errors
[11:34] <steve_rox> something called evd
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[11:37] <steve_rox> configure: error: Package requirements (evd-0.1 >= 0.1.16) were not met
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[11:39] <cityLights> mike_t: please look at: http://bpaste.net/show/79916/
[11:40] <cityLights> is it right to assume gcc is faulty?
[11:41] <steve_rox> think somethings broke
[11:42] <steve_rox> "Ouch! Got SIGSEGV, dying.."
[11:42] <steve_rox> guess ill order a reboot
[11:42] <cityLights> ./configure: line 2349: /usr/bin/armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi-g++: cannot execute binary file
[11:45] <cityLights> odd, no package owns this file
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[11:47] <Bhaal> Not even 2 weeks and one of my SD cards is giving IO errors
[11:47] <steve_rox> chkdsk time?
[11:47] <mike_t> steve_rox, apt-get install libevd-0.1-dev :)
[11:47] <steve_rox> i shall attempt it
[11:48] <steve_rox> i dont know all the names of the packagessorry
[11:48] <mike_t> cityLights, maybe it helps for you http://wiki.gentoo.org/index.php?title=Raspberry_Pi_Cross_building
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[11:49] <mike_t> steve_rox, apt-cache search SOMETHING
[11:50] <steve_rox> gonna have to make notes
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[11:50] <Tachyon`> Bhaal: that may simply be card corruption rather than hardware issues, are you overclocking?
[11:51] <adeus> if the repo had an old version, maybe it lists the required build-deps as well
[11:51] <adeus> apt-get build-dep
[11:51] <steve_rox> think the complile may of worked it exit without error
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[11:54] <steve_rox> just have to rember the install command hah
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[11:56] <cityLights> mike_t: thnaks
[11:57] <Bhaal> Tachyon`: No, not overclocking...
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[11:57] <Bhaal> Tachyon`: http://pastebin.com/u0TNUhS5
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[11:58] <Bhaal> That's the errors I get when I try and make an image of it when plugging into my notebook
[11:58] <Bhaal> Tachyon`: I cannot actually login to it right now, the errors have broken ssh
[11:58] <Tachyon`> oh yeah, that's dead
[12:00] <Bhaal> Not even 2 weeks
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[12:00] <Bhaal> Actually, I lie, 2wks to the day :)
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[12:01] <Tachyon`> kingston by any chance?
[12:01] <Bhaal> Thankfully its only doing one thing at the moment and I am able to get that DB off the SD card...
[12:01] <Bhaal> Tachyon`: Ummm, yes actually
[12:01] <Bhaal> I bought 2 of them...
[12:01] <Tachyon`> yeah, don't buy kingston, lol
[12:01] <Tachyon`> sandisk!
[12:02] <Bhaal> Can I expect better performance?
[12:02] <Tachyon`> you certainly can, particularly with small files
[12:02] <Bhaal> I have always bought kingston ram, its used to be the best on the market.... WHAT HAVE THEY DONE????? :)
[12:02] <Tachyon`> you can also expect the card not to randomly die and the casing to crack and come apart
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[12:03] <Bhaal> Tachyon`: Ok, so the class of the SD card is about speed or reliability?
[12:03] <Tachyon`> speed, kingston jsut aren't vey good, lol
[12:03] <Tachyon`> also, the class is misleading when it comes to small files
[12:03] <Tachyon`> as it refers to large sequential file transfers
[12:04] <Bhaal> These kingstons are only class 4..
[12:04] <Bhaal> Ah ok
[12:04] <Tachyon`> yeah, but a kingston class 4 is much slower than a sandisk class 4
[12:04] <Tachyon`> particularly with anythin that uses small files
[12:04] <Bhaal> Alright, will go buy one tomorrow
[12:04] <Triffid_Hunter> someone here said class 6 are best because that's the highest class that mandates performance for random access, not just sequential access
[12:04] <Tachyon`> then they lied, lol
[12:05] <Tachyon`> none of them mandate performance for random access
[12:05] <Tachyon`> well, or were mistaken -.o
[12:05] <steve_rox> i hit another brick wall during compile i think i may take a break from it
[12:06] <Bhaal> Tachyon`: Well for the moment, the machine is limping on the broken SD card, its just collecting data from my weather station...
[12:07] <Bhaal> Hopefully I will get a fresh copy from it tomorrow before setting up a new card...
[12:07] <Bhaal> ie: if it hasn't crashed completely by then
[12:08] <ShadowJK> Fastest card for random access I've found so far is "A-data ultra high speed microsdhc".. but as all kingston and adata, it glitched already when I benchmarked it.. but has been stable in use.. go figure
[12:09] <Bhaal> I don't care about speed to be honest... I care about the damn thing not dying...
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[12:10] <ShadowJK> in that case, sandisk class 4 or class 6
[12:10] <Triffid_Hunter> sandisk make a waterproof microsd fyi
[12:11] <Triffid_Hunter> designed for phones, but could be interesting for a weather station
[12:11] * FR^2 won't buy sandisk anymore ;)
[12:11] <Bhaal> Well I bought 2 32gb kingstons... thankfully, they weren't too expensive, but I thought I might get more data onto them... But not even close, so just going to get some 4gb cards...
[12:11] <Bhaal> $5 each, should probably get a handful of the buggers...
[12:12] <Bhaal> $5AUD
[12:12] <teff> Bhaal, wouldn't a pen drive be cheaper?
[12:13] <ShadowJK> I used to buy a bunch of 4 or 8gig cards for testing, and then buy the bigger capacity of the card that did best...but today cards from same manufacturer and same branding/classrating are like completely different cards, so the different sizes also have totally different performance and reliability..
[12:14] <ShadowJK> or in the case of kingston, they basically just slap their brand on totally random stuff so you have no clue what you're getting
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[12:15] <Bhaal> teff: You mean for extra space?
[12:16] <teff> yeah, if you are logging data why not do it to a pen drive, then all you need to is suspend logging for a few moment, swap the pen drive, remount and resume logging
[12:16] <Bhaal> teff: You saying the pen drive would be more reliable?
[12:18] <teff> hmm :/ debatable :p though I ran a mini itx on a cheap 4gb pen drive with debian and minumum tweaking for 2 years without a problem.
[12:18] <Bhaal> teff: I would save to a database on my file server, but in the event of a power outage, my file server/router/switch/wifi is likely to run out of UPS long before the rpi's are...
[12:18] <teff> although it did give up the ghost becasue I hadn't limited logging to the pen drive
[12:18] <teff> ahh
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[12:20] <Bhaal> My server and routers are hanging off a 3kVA UPS, but the batteries are starting to get on in life, can only keep things up for about 1.5hrs or so...
[12:20] <teff> how much data are you generating?
[12:20] <Bhaal> haha, not a lot at all
[12:21] <Bhaal> the SD card should be able to handle I think
[12:21] <Bhaal> writes wise
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[12:23] <nid0> how big's the database?
[12:23] <Bhaal> erm *cough* small...
[12:24] <teff> you could always use mount a temporary partition in memory to buffer data to the database on your server
[12:24] <Bhaal> I think it was like 25mb sqlite :)
[12:24] <nid0> you could always just
[12:24] <nid0> yeah that
[12:24] <teff> ooooooh
[12:24] <nid0> mount a ram disk, store the db there, and dump it to sd every so often
[12:24] <teff> bugger that, do what nid0 said
[12:24] <nid0> then write an init script to remount the ram disk on boot and dump it back from sd to the ramdisk
[12:25] <teff> mount the tmpfs at boot, copy the database there and then dump to disk occasionally and at shutdown
[12:25] <Bhaal> Nah, it only gets written to every 5mins, surely that isn't going to trash the card?
[12:25] <mike_t> teff, try flashcache
[12:25] <nid0> no, your problem is nothing to do with general card reliability, you could be writing a small db to it constantly for decades without wearing it out
[12:26] <nid0> but storing the db on a ramdisk (rather than tmpfs or on the sd) will give a performance improvement
[12:27] <Bhaal> nid0: Ahhhh, tis all good, as said, its not worth the trouble, it doesn't need to be fast
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[12:27] <Tachyon`> shift--
[12:28] <ShiftPlusOne> D=
[12:29] <Bochi> nid0: you know what tmpfs is right?
[12:30] <Bhaal> mike_t: That flashcache actually looks pretty cool...
[12:30] <nid0> Bochi: yes, fully aware
[12:30] <Bhaal> But again, I don't really need the speed
[12:30] <Bochi> so where's the advantage of using a ramdisk?
[12:30] <nid0> tmpfs can swap out to sd
[12:30] <nid0> ramdisk will not
[12:30] <Bochi> that is true, yes
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[12:30] <Bochi> well right, with older models that might be an issue, didn't think about that
[12:31] <Bochi> but with the 512 model one should be fine with tmpfs
[12:31] <teff> oooh, thanks mike_t, not seen that before
[12:31] <mike_t> :)
[12:31] <mike_t> flashcache is very interesting
[12:32] <teff> nid0, did not realise tmpfs swapped
[12:32] <Bochi> teff: change tmpfs to ramfs and you should be fine
[12:32] <Bochi> its the same basically except that ramfs can't use swap ever
[12:33] <Bochi> well, and it grows dynamically (which may be an advantage too)
[12:33] <mike_t> vm.swappiness=0 it prevents swap
[12:33] <nid0> yeah it prevents *all* swap
[12:34] <nid0> if you want swap but not for the content you're explicitly storing in ram, you have ramfs
[12:34] <mike_t> yes, but ramfs have persist size but tmpfs on demand
[12:38] <mike_t> ohhmaar, I'm wrong
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[12:45] <cityLights> mike_t: solved by ln -s /usr/bin/g++ /usr/bin/armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi-g++
[12:45] <cityLights> need I open a bug for this?
[12:46] <teff> i used tmpfs on my eee-pc for /var/log but im pretty sure I had swap turned off becasue I had a ridculous amount of ram in it
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[12:46] <mike_t> cityLights, I think it's not right. /usr/bin/g++ must be native g++
[12:47] <mike_t> teff, I haven't swap on my eeepc
[12:47] <cityLights> but avahi somehow used the /usr/bin/armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi-g++ instead of g++
[12:48] <linuxstb> cityLights: What you've seems the same as Raspbian. That has arm-linux-gnueabihf-g++ -> g++-4.6 and then g++-4.6 -> g++
[12:49] <linuxstb> ^What you've done...
[12:49] <cityLights> mv /usr/bin/armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi-g++{,.orig} && ln -s /usr/bin/g++ /usr/bin/armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi-g++
[12:50] <linuxstb> Hmm, so armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi-g++ already existed?
[12:50] <cityLights> yep, and I had moved it
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[12:51] <linuxstb> So what was wrong with the original?
[12:51] <teff> mike_t, im not sue my eepc even works at the moment, I had to switch to booting from the external card after I ran it as a server for a year :p now my rpi has taken over
[12:52] <cityLights> linuxstb - no idea
[12:52] <linuxstb> cityLights: What does "file /usr/bin/armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi-g++.orig" say?
[12:52] <cityLights> file /usr/bin/g++
[12:52] <cityLights> /usr/bin/g++: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.16, stripped
[12:52] <cityLights> file /usr/bin/armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi-g++.orig
[12:52] <cityLights> /usr/bin/armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi-g++.orig: data
[12:53] <cityLights> linuxstb - just what I did....
[12:53] <linuxstb> OK, weird. Seems that may have got corrupted somehow.
[12:54] <cityLights> I used this: http://www.baldy.za.net/node/732
[12:55] <linuxstb> Do you have both /usr/bin/gcc and /usr/bin/armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi-gcc ? Are they identical (or is one a symlink) ?
[12:56] <gordonDrogon> I have vm.swappiness=90 ...
[12:57] <cityLights> they are identical
[12:57] <mike_t> gordonDrogon, it's aggressively
[12:58] <gordonDrogon> it's maximising real RAM
[12:58] <linuxstb> cityLights: OK, then what you've done is fine. Or you could simply cp g++ over the top of file /usr/bin/armv6j-hardfloat-linux-gnueabi-g++ and put it down to a random corruption...
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[13:16] <gazzwi86> hey all
[13:18] <gazzwi86> I've bought an RSSM2 and a stepper motor (http://docs-europe.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/001b/0900766b8001bfd5.pdf http://www.oocities.org/es/astrohyperion/HybridStepperMotors.pdf) and I'm trying to get it turning, but I can only get it to vibrate or step one forward one back, regardless of the dir pin
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[13:27] <gordonDrogon> how many wires does it have?
[13:28] <gordonDrogon> the thing to check is the wiring. it's just too easy to get them crosses with stepper motors - especially unipolar ones.
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[13:31] <TLoFP1> morning
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[13:44] <gazzwi86> gordonDrogon: 6 wires, two brown, yellow, blue, red and white
[13:44] <gazzwi86> I have 12v to the board and the vm+
[13:46] <FR^2> Cut the blue wire! Cut the blue one!!11
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[13:47] <anew> is anyone using xming ?
[13:47] <TLoFP1> so I moved my SD card to a new rpi and booted and my program no longer worked: (
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[13:48] <TLoFP1> i figure its a apt-get update
[13:49] <TLoFP1> apt-get upgrade, but I thought all of that information was stored on the SD card, am I wrong?
[13:49] <gordonDrogon> gazzwi86, ok just check the wiring. You might also want to make sure the board is in full-step mode then check the output voltages before connecting the motors.
[13:50] <frikinz> TLoFP1: how is your program no longer working?
[13:50] <gazzwi86> gordonDrogon: full step is just having h/f low on the board
[13:52] <mjr> Everything is indeed on the sd card. Your program should work.
[13:52] <mjr> more details is needed for more accurate guesses
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[13:56] <gazzwi86> gordonDrogon: so i have dir, dis, wav LOW and ebb and cki high / low at 300mil intervals. PHB and PHD hit on and off 12v and PHA and PHC on and off 0.02
[13:59] <anew> does wheezy come prepackaged with mysql ?
[14:01] <nid0> no
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[14:02] <gazzwi86> gordonDrogon: as I understood it, I would set h/f low for full step, enb to start a step, dis high to stop, dir high/low to change direction and ignore cmi and coo as I has a manual clock on board
[14:02] <gazzwi86> **cki / cko
[14:02] <anew> weird i'm trying to install mysql and it's giving me errors
[14:03] <frikinz> anyway mysql will be replaced by mariadb in most distros
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[14:04] <anew> damn now when i start iceweasel i get 'bus error'
[14:04] <anew> anyone using xming ?
[14:05] <frikinz> explain your problem?
[14:05] <anew> well my problems just multiplied lol... i guess first with xming, how can i see the entire desktop in a resizeable window. right now it takes up my entire remote screen and the window is unresizeable
[14:14] <gordonDrogon> gazzwi86, enb - high, dis - low (all the time), wav = low, h/f = low, then pulse cki
[14:14] <gordonDrogon> bus error! that's a good one. Ho ho :)
[14:14] <gordonDrogon> it used to mean access to a non-existant peripheral...
[14:14] <frikinz> sounds like mixing entries in sources.list
[14:14] <gazzwi86> gordonDrogon: pulse cki? so just on off?
[14:14] <gazzwi86> toggle?
[14:15] <gordonDrogon> gazzwi86, yes.
[14:15] <gazzwi86> gordonDrogon: thats what I'm doing right now and it just goes backwards and forwards
[14:15] <gordonDrogon> gazzwi86, a low to high transition should step.
[14:15] <gazzwi86> so I'm wired wrong :)
[14:16] <gordonDrogon> probably...
[14:16] <gordonDrogon> do you have a multimeter or the correct colour codes for the motor wires?
[14:17] <frikinz> anew: https://sinewalker.wordpress.com/2009/02/20/xming-screen-size/ ? pass option screen?
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> the wires will be in 2 groups of 3, so isolate those first then in each 3, there will be a centre tap on the coils.
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[14:18] <gazzwi86> gordonDrogon: well with the two brown they are centre, I have one with + and one with -
[14:20] <gordonDrogon> well theres only so-many combinations :)
[14:20] <anew> let me try that frikinz
[14:21] <gazzwi86> gordonDrogon: it goes a - f which is confusing since the board is only a - d. is it right to hook browns up one + one -? http://www.oocities.org/es/astrohyperion/HybridStepperMotors.pdf
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[14:27] <gordonDrogon> gazzwi86, yes - the brows are the centre taps, so you effectively get 5 -wires.
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[14:44] <anew> bah no idea what happened now 'xterminal' command doesnt work
[14:45] <gazzwi86> gordonDrogon: thanks so much for your help, its rotating now. A bit slow, but hopefully I can work that out! :)
[14:46] <gordonDrogon> better than nothing!
[14:46] <gordonDrogon> gazzwi86, how are you sending pulses to it?
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[14:51] <anew> installing apache and mysql screwed everything up... how can i reinstall the OS on rpi ?
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[15:00] <BCMM> anew: same way you initially installed it
[15:01] <BCMM> but you shouldn't have to - what did you do to get to your current situation? did you download apache and mysql manually?
[15:01] <anew> ye
[15:01] <anew> yes
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[15:01] <anew> no idea what i did, figuring it out would be such a hassle...
[15:01] <anew> since i dont have any data on it yet
[15:01] <BCMM> anew: well, knowing what you did might help you avoid doing it again
[15:02] <anew> i'm going to install the lamp one by one next time
[15:02] <anew> instead of doing it all at once
[15:02] <anew> there were errors with mysql passwords which was confusing also
[15:02] <linuxstb> "apt-get install apache2 msql" ?
[15:02] <BCMM> anew: how did you go about installing them? manually or with a package manager?
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[15:03] <anew> manually
[15:03] <BCMM> anew: i recommend you do not do that - did you have a specific reason to be doing it that way?
[15:03] <anew> oh
[15:03] <anew> if you mean with apt-get
[15:03] <anew> i used apt-get
[15:04] <BCMM> good good
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[15:04] <BCMM> thought you might have just downloaded tgzs or .debs from somewhere
[15:05] <anew> trying to reinstall debian now
[15:05] <anew> sudo aptitude reinstall '~i'
[15:05] <BCMM> that won't reinstall the OS...
[15:05] <anew> o rly
[15:05] <anew> i thought that was the comman
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[15:06] <BCMM> well that might reinstall every package, but that isn't exactly the same
[15:06] <anew> ah yeah
[15:06] <anew> ur right
[15:06] <anew> argh
[15:06] <Firehopper> hrmm.. what else can vcgencmd do?
[15:07] <anew> the problem is when i try to run xterminal or iceweasel i get this error
[15:07] <BCMM> if you just want a fresh install back, do whatever you did to prep your SD card again
[15:07] <anew> PuTTY X11 proxy: wrong authorisation protocol attempted
[15:07] <anew> and i googled a solution but i guess i'm to retarded to understand what to do
[15:07] <anew> i did a headless install with the sd card
[15:07] <anew> i just plugged it in and ssh'd from my router
[15:07] <anew> because i dont have a monitor or television
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[15:08] <linuxstb> Firehopper: Well, what do you know it can do? Everything on this page? http://elinux.org/RPI_vcgencmd_usage
[15:08] <BCMM> anew: so do you have an X server on a Windows machine running putty or what?
[15:08] <BCMM> and do you actually mean xterminal rather than xterm?
[15:08] <anew> yes exactly
[15:08] <anew> no xterminal was working before
[15:08] <anew> xterm doesnt work now either
[15:08] <anew> lxsession
[15:08] <anew> xterminal/xterm/iceweasel
[15:08] <anew> nothing
[15:09] <Dyskette> lxterminal comes with raspbian - xterm does not
[15:09] <Dyskette> Unless you've installed it yourself, you won't have xterm
[15:09] <anew> ok lxterminal didnt work and neither did lxsession
[15:09] <anew> i get that error above
[15:09] <BCMM> anew: sure your X server is running? are putty settings the same as before?
[15:09] <anew> yep everything is the same
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[15:09] <anew> the only thing i did was install lamp
[15:10] <anew> i think just reinstalling debian is the best... but i cant figure out how to do that from cli
[15:10] <linuxstb> anew: What exactly did you do? i.e. what commands did you type? (running "history" may tell you)
[15:10] <anew> apt-get install apache2 apache2.2-common mysql-server phpmyadmin php5 php5-mysql php5-common libapache2-mod-php5 php-pear
[15:10] <anew> this is how i installed lamp
[15:11] <anew> and that's when everything went to hell
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[15:12] <linuxstb> Do you still have the output from that apt-get command?
[15:12] <anew> no :S
[15:12] <anew> let me just reinstall wheezy
[15:12] <anew> if you could please help with that i think that's easiest
[15:12] <anew> i just dont know where to start since installing it all i did was put in the sd card
[15:13] <linuxstb> Just download the wheezy image from raspberrypi.org and "dd" it to your SD card from another Linux machine.
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[15:13] <anew> dd =?
[15:13] <anew> and then just plug it in and reboot ?
[15:13] <linuxstb> Or if you're using windows, ask someone else (or google)...
[15:14] <linuxstb> dd is a Linux command for writing to a disk device.
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[15:14] <anew> ah shoot
[15:14] <anew> yeah i'm on windows
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[15:14] <anew> i cant use what was on there before ?
[15:14] <linuxstb> I'm sure if you google for "install raspbian from windows" you'll get 1001 hits
[15:15] <linuxstb> Not if it's been trashed, no.
[15:15] <linuxstb> If you know what you're doing, you can probably recover it, but it's easier to just reimage the card.
[15:15] <Firehopper> linuxstb, no, I only knew about the measure_temp thing
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[15:16] <anew> ok so once i get the image on the sd... i just reboot with it plugged in ?
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[15:21] <teff> anew, if you have got the fresh image written to the sdcard then that is all there should be to it
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[15:21] <anew> ok cool
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[15:42] <Firehopper> I'm just happy I can get into my RPI via putty via wifi :)
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[15:56] <metachris> hey all! i've recently published RPIO, an extension of RPi.GPIO with interrupt handling and more, and am looking for feedback and ideas!
[15:56] <metachris> https://github.com/metachris/RPIO
[15:58] <Tachyon`> and what do you know
[15:58] <Tachyon`> another kingston card failure
[15:58] <Tachyon`> this one has gone "read only"
[15:58] <Tachyon`> in that it thinks it's writing but if you remove/reinsert the contents are what htey were before
[15:58] <Tachyon`> it just survived a dd of /dev/zero
[15:59] <IT_Sean> Tachyon`: is it an older one?
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[15:59] <Tachyon`> about 4 months old
[15:59] <IT_Sean> odd.
[15:59] <Tachyon`> got it when I got the first pi
[15:59] <IT_Sean> sounds like it might be shagged, though
[15:59] <Tachyon`> indeed
[15:59] <Tachyon`> this is failed kingston card number 4 here, heh
[16:00] <IT_Sean> are you beginning to see a pattern, here?
[16:00] <Tachyon`> compared to a total of 1 card from all the other makes
[16:00] <Tachyon`> oh yes
[16:00] <Tachyon`> lol
[16:01] <Tachyon`> I've only ever had one other card fail (a sandisk and that one went through the wash in my pocket so you can sort of understand it), the four kinstons have just failed in normal use for no reason
[16:01] <IT_Sean> I had an SD card fail that way once... It was the one i used to watch moves on my iPaq
[16:01] <IT_Sean> Now it has the Jurassic Park trilogy on it. permanently. :p
[16:02] <Twist-> oh man. the iPaq
[16:02] <IT_Sean> I liked mine! Had an (still have, actually) HX4700
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[16:03] <Twist-> Yeah, I was the handheld dev er.. right. family friendly channel. handheld dev guy. at my company for a few years
[16:03] <IT_Sean> I still use it, occasionally. I have a TV remote app on it, that i use to cause mayham with TVs in airports, restaurants, and shops.
[16:04] <Twist-> Palm V - m505 days, and a smattering of wince
[16:04] <IT_Sean> I had a Palm H|X before the iPaq
[16:04] <IT_Sean> T|X, rather. T|X
[16:04] <IT_Sean> that was a nice palm
[16:04] <IT_Sean> color LCD. wifi. bluetooth.
[16:04] <Twist-> Heh.. in an amusing coincidence, I was troubleshooting some citrix problem last week and found a ton of connections from Hotsync Manager to one of my database servers
[16:04] <IT_Sean> I was a bit sad when it went pointy bits up.
[16:05] <Twist-> "they can't still be using..."
[16:05] <IT_Sean> they are.
[16:05] <IT_Sean> Oh, trust me, they are.
[16:05] <Twist-> turns out,they are. There's a group of people hanging on to a dwindling collection of palms
[16:05] <IT_Sean> tehehe
[16:05] <Twist-> scrounging up old ones whenever they appear in a drawer
[16:05] <IT_Sean> I still have a Palm III tucked away, in mint condition.
[16:06] <Twist-> It's the maintenance and biomed team at one of our hospitals.. they're using it to sync their work lists.
[16:06] <neilr> I threw my old Palm III out last year. Are they worth anything now?
[16:06] <IT_Sean> I don't think so
[16:06] <IT_Sean> But, one day, they might be.
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[16:06] <IT_Sean> i just did a search on Amazon for a Palm T|X. $193
[16:06] <neilr> yeah, but if I hung on to everything on the grounds that it might be valuable one day, I'd need a bigger shed :)
[16:07] <carli2> hi. can omxplayer also play a subsurface of a video?
[16:07] <IT_Sean> Palm III: $150
[16:07] <neilr> Wow. I probably should have sold it rather than just throw it out.
[16:07] <IT_Sean> possibly.
[16:08] <frikinz> Also have a palm. tungsten c though..
[16:08] <frikinz> no idea where it is :)
[16:08] <IT_Sean> I had the iii, then one of the m ones... m202? m something... then the T|X, then i moved on to the iPaq HX4700.
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[16:09] <IT_Sean> The HX4700 was nice, as it had both SD and CF slots, which was handy, but, i think my favorite was the T|X
[16:09] <IT_Sean> Now a days i just carry a Nexus 4.
[16:09] <frikinz> Ah. just received one
[16:09] <IT_Sean> A Nex 4? Nice, innit?
[16:10] <frikinz> Nexus 4. for my parents. I'll keep my galaxy S3
[16:10] <IT_Sean> oh.
[16:10] * IT_Sean <3s his nexus 4
[16:10] <frikinz> If I'd keep it, I'd definetly put a custom rom. the default google one misses so many things compared to the S3 o_O
[16:10] <frikinz> Maybe I'm just to used to my S3
[16:11] <IT_Sean> I think you are just used to your S3. I haven't found the vanilla android build on the Nexus 4 lacking.
[16:11] <frikinz> The N4 is nice nevertheless. it beats the S3 in raw performance. i think on gpu side
[16:12] <frikinz> Not as egronomic as the S3 I'd say.
[16:13] <frikinz> but receives update quickly. Still on 4.1.2 with the S3
[16:13] <IT_Sean> I haven't heald the S3, but, i do like the way the N4 sits in my hands.
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[16:14] <frikinz> I meant the ergonomy of the software. Physically, I think they fit the same in hand. Since a week I have the S3 and N4 in both pockets :)
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[16:14] <IT_Sean> oooh. :p
[16:16] <frikinz> I've installed debian in a chroot on my S3.. for da lulz
[16:16] <IT_Sean> o_O
[16:17] <frikinz> Yeah, its about 10 commands to run on your linux pc and then about the same to finish on the Arm. the usual stuff
[16:18] <IT_Sean> does it work well?
[16:19] <frikinz> yeah. I run my perl scripts on it :)
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[16:20] <frikinz> IT_Sean: I wrote this to remind me how to do it http://teebeenator.blogspot.fr/2012/03/debian-in-android-with-chroot-and-loop.html
[16:21] <IT_Sean> neat.
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[16:22] <frikinz> hum actually now that armhf on arm7 is supported, I could try again for hard float.
[16:23] <frikinz> there's also fdroid which brings a lot of things from linux. so there's an X11 server. could work for gui apps from debian
[16:23] <frikinz> etc etc etc ... :)
[16:23] <frikinz> or through vnc
[16:23] <kukosk> hi all ... im trying to solve a problem for a day now :( ... do you have sound in midori in the latest debian build ? im using html5 audio tag
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[16:25] <pappkamerad> hi
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[16:26] <kukosk> im getting sound with aplay, but not in midori
[16:26] <edve> Hi guys , i wanted to know if there was any way to run an x86 Windows App on a Raspberry Pi ? With of course the Wine App or any else x86 emulator ? It's a light program but still is could be awesome to run it on a RPi!
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[16:27] <pappkamerad> today I received my rpi B rev.2. I flashed the debian image onto a 16GB SD and booted. Everything worked fine until I plugged in an ethernet cable. Now my keyboard doesn't work anymore. anybody an idea?
[16:27] <BCMM> edve: with Wine and with an x86 emulator, and performance will be horrible
[16:28] <BCMM> edve: there are ways to use Wine with user-mode qemu
[16:28] <BCMM> edve: (user-mode qemu is amazing, you can do stuff like running an ARM linux executable on x86 linux without visualising a whole operating system)
[16:29] <BCMM> edve: also if you have sources for the Windows application, it may be possible to build an ARM Linux version using Winelib, with minimal modification
[16:30] <BCMM> pappkamerad: sounds a bit like you have almost, but not quite, enough power :) what sort of power supply are you using?
[16:30] <edve> actually the point is that i cannot make some modification of that software :/ the source is nowhere to be found.. I would have to Un-compile it then thanks BCMM !
[16:31] <BCMM> edve: decompilation is... not simple. don't do that.
[16:31] <pappkamerad> BCMM, an 5V 1.2A adapter
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[16:32] <BCMM> pappkamerad: do you have access to a powered hub for the purposes of testing?
[16:32] <pappkamerad> not at the moment, no
[16:32] <BCMM> hmmm. 1.2A is supposed to be enough anyway
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[16:33] <BCMM> got anything plugged in apart from ethernet and keyboard?
[16:33] <BCMM> edve: http://wiki.winehq.org/ARM
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[16:33] <pappkamerad> I had a wlan stick plugged in
[16:34] <edve> BCMM: thanks for the tips/links!
[16:34] <BCMM> edve: sorry that wiki page is a bit development-oriented...
[16:34] <BCMM> edve: point is, it *is* possible, but not well-supported, to combine wine and qemu
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[16:35] <BCMM> edve: qemu handles the x86 instructions, wine handles the win32 API calls
[16:35] <BCMM> there used to be a project for running win32 stuff on PPC macs that used the same approach
[16:36] <BCMM> pappkamerad: can you do ethernet+kb with nothing else?
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[16:36] <BCMM> i mean, does that work?
[16:36] <edve> BCMM: Ok i'm gonna take a look foward to this !
[16:36] <BCMM> edve: what are you trying to run btw? there may be a native equivalent
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[16:38] <edve> my own application that i once compiled on vb6
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[16:39] <anew> ok, reinstalled wheezy... so when i run lxsession, the window takes up my whole screen
[16:39] <anew> how can i resize it ?
[16:42] <BCMM> anew: you're using some X server for Windows, right?
[16:42] <anew> yep...xming
[16:42] <BCMM> edve: sources lost?
[16:42] <BCMM> anew: i have no idea; maybe xming has an IRC channel or something
[16:43] <anew> yeah tried it... i was the onlly one in there lol
[16:43] <BCMM> anew: also most X servers for other window systems have a mode where each window is a window, as well as "desktop mode"
[16:43] <BCMM> if you want to be able to multi-task, it may suit you better
[16:43] <anew> yeah if i run like iceweasel for example... it pops up in it's own window
[16:43] <anew> but if i run the desktop
[16:43] <anew> desktop takes up the whole screen
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[16:50] <carli2> is that also possible with raspi? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0-ujHf0RFM
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[16:52] <frikinz> anew: I see xming has something for configuring these settings http://c.fsdn.com/con/app/proj/xming/screenshots/115700 ?
[16:52] <scummos> carli2: I wouldn't see why not
[16:53] <nplus> Hi, I've got this digital frame that I don't use and I'm wondering if I can use the screen from it with my Pi. The model of the screen is DGH-W090LED. I found a russion forum post (http://tinyurl.com/aknxbfc) which mentions the screen and also mentions another screen "HSD090ICW1" (http://tinyurl.com/bardyo5) - any thoughts if it could work?
[16:53] <carli2> scummos: because omxplayer does not support playing just a clipped rect of the video?
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[16:54] <scummos> well I didn't say there's a ready-made solution for it
[16:54] <scummos> but making a video player play a rect of a video is not like impossible
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[16:55] <carli2> scummos: the synchronization would be more a problem ;)
[16:55] <pappkamerad> BCMM, network doesn't seem to work, no new ip in network, leds not blinking
[16:55] <scummos> carli2: why
[16:55] <carli2> scummos: creating subrects can be done as a preprocessing step
[16:55] <anew> frikinz yeah i checked multiple windows
[16:55] <anew> not sure which display number i checked tho
[16:56] <anew> it's just the desktop that doesnt work
[16:56] <anew> if i open programs they all open fine and can resize them all. but when i lxsession it takes up the whole screen
[16:56] <anew> meh
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[16:56] <netw1z> hey guys anyone have recommendations on a good GPS usb?
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[16:57] <Twist-> netw1z: http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals
[16:58] <scummos> carli2: ok, so... what? ;)
[16:58] <netw1z> thanks. i was checking that. i tried to buy one, and I got ripped off..
[16:58] <carli2> scummos: i could do the video splitting on my own, but i'd need help for the synchronization
[16:58] <netw1z> was searching for a personal recommendation, cuz it doesnt look like the one i would like to get off that list is availaible to me in the US
[16:59] <scummos> carli2: ah. well, you could either synchroinze the start of the players
[16:59] <scummos> or synchronize periodically
[16:59] <scummos> probably the latter would be necessary to ensure synchronous operation over prolonged periods
[16:59] <carli2> scummos: the second one would be nicer
[17:00] <scummos> carli2: ok, but you'll either have to find a lib which does it already or write it yourself.
[17:00] <carli2> okay. i will read through the omxplayer sources in order to understand how it communicates with the hw
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[17:03] <anew> maybe cgy will give different results
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[17:04] <frikinz> anew: a tv with hdmi or analog input also ;)
[17:05] <anew> i dont own a television :(
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[17:05] <frikinz> neither do I but I don't start a complete desktop enviroment remotly. a few gui stuffs like gvim at best. rest in cli over ssh
[17:06] <anew> yeah
[17:06] <anew> maybe that is what i should do also
[17:09] <Torikun> "If your having storage problems I feel bad for you son I got 99 problems and a disk ain't one"
[17:10] <IT_Sean> that was poor.
[17:10] <Torikun> lol
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[17:10] <anew> lol that was great
[17:10] <Torikun> =)
[17:11] <Torikun> I wanted to reply with that to my customer just now
[17:11] <Torikun> lol
[17:11] <anew> lmao
[17:13] <anew> now i'm going to be sayinng that all day
[17:13] <Torikun> lol
[17:13] <anew> next thing my wife says to me, i'm going to reply with "if you're having storage problems i feel bad for you son, i got 99 problems and a disk ain't one'
[17:13] <Torikun> lol
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[17:32] <Torikun> anew: http://memegenerator.net/instance/35424631
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[17:32] <Torikun> lol
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[17:33] <anew> front page reddit
[17:33] <Torikun> adding now
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[17:33] <anew> lmao
[17:34] <Torikun> http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/new/
[17:34] <Torikun> lol
[17:34] <anew> lol that's great
[17:34] <keen_commander> hahahha nice
[17:35] <anew> upvoted
[17:35] <anew> god speed son
[17:35] <Torikun> ty!
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[17:46] <Davespice> awesome video here folks; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKIu9yen5nc
[17:48] <kukosk> is there any way to get html5 audio working in midori ?
[17:48] <Torikun> does video work kukosk?
[17:49] <kukosk> Torikun: audio works using aplay, but not in web browser ... i didn't test video in midori
[17:49] <Torikun> ooo nice Davespice
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[17:53] <keen_com> anybody knows about webcams and raspi?
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[17:55] <RoyK> keen_com: was just checking http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/camera-board
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[17:56] <RoyK> I guess an ordinary webcam should work, though, so long as you have linux drivers for it that compile under arm
[17:56] <RoyK> most drivers are hardware arch agnostic, though, so it should work with anything supported under linux
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[17:58] <Tachyon`> afternoon
[17:59] <keen_com> RoyK: do you have any model tested?
[17:59] <Tachyon`> is it possible to select a different default kernel fb console font without rebuilding the kernel? it's defaulting to 8x8, I'd prefer 6x11 as I'm using a horrible 320x240 display (which was sold to me as 640x480 but that's a rant for another time)
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[18:00] <Tachyon`> perhaps an option on the kernel command line?
[18:01] <SwK> keen_com: http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals
[18:01] <Torikun> any news when camera coming
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[18:03] * Firehopper waits for the stuff to convert a old 17.1" lcd display to a hdmi monitor for my pi :)
[18:03] <RoyK> keen_com: not yet - need a new pi first :P
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[18:05] <RoyK> Tachyon`: it's configurable via a boot parameter vga=
[18:05] <IT_Sean> Torikun: nothing besides "soon"
[18:05] <IT_Sean> I'd expect it in the next few months,.
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[18:08] <Tachyon`> doesn't vga=x specify the display mode rather than the font though?
[18:09] <scummos> yes it specifies the VGA mode
[18:10] <scummos> which will have influence on the appearance of the font ;)
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[18:12] <edve> BCMM: yeah source was on hdd that failed one day..
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[18:13] <edsiper> hi, where can i reach a raspberry foundation member ?
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[18:15] <nid0> http://www.raspberrypi.org/contact-us
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[18:16] <edsiper> i need something more direct..
[18:16] <IT_Sean> That's as direct as it gets
[18:16] <ShiftPlusOne> They're busy people
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[18:17] <IT_Sean> Is there something that we can help you with?
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[18:17] <ShiftPlusOne> If it's something serious, they'll get back to you and it can be more direct.
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[18:18] <peba> @edsiper: on the raspberry PI forums , you could try eben@raspberrypi.org
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[18:18] <edsiper> thanks peba
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[18:20] <IT_Sean> edsiper: mind if i ask why you are seeking a foundationer?
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[18:23] <steve_rox> to build a house
[18:23] <steve_rox> i dunno :-p
[18:23] <ShiftPlusOne> badoom-tsch
[18:24] <edsiper> IT_Sean, our open source project organization is applying to be part of the Google Summer of Code program and we are working into a project spec to create a RaspBerry Pi HTML5 interface + C webservices to handle the device plus other things that can be very useful for developers. As we are non-profit i need to ask if exists some mechanism to request a few boards for the work (if we are accepted of course). If you want I can give you more details in p
[18:24] <edsiper> rivate
[18:24] <IT_Sean> No thanks.
[18:25] <IT_Sean> And i don't want to discourage you, cause that sounds awesome, but, it is very unlikely you are going to get any samples.
[18:25] <edsiper> i know its difficult, but i have to ask first to the organization..
[18:26] <IT_Sean> Quite frankly, if The Foundation gave samples to everyone with these sorts of projects, there would be none left to sell.
[18:26] <IT_Sean> And, this is only my personal opinion, but, at $35 a board, just buy some. It supports a bloody good cause.
[18:26] <edsiper> i know, but we dont have the funds and i cannot ask a student to buy one for the work...
[18:27] <steve_rox> i rember that story i read on their homepage about some fakers trying to get samples , not implying you may be one
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[18:27] <edsiper> i will send ask again for email and already looking for some workarounds
[18:27] <IT_Sean> I wish you the best of luck, really, i do. But, prepare to be turned down.
[18:28] <edsiper> thanks, in this life you have to knock doors :)
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[18:30] <applegekko> which option in config.txt do i change to max gpu have less memory
[18:30] <applegekko> there is 3 on the wiki but none work
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[18:33] <_21h_> hi all
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[18:34] <keen_commander> Hi
[18:34] <_21h_> gordonDrogon: today i tried ds1302 with your lib. something goes wrong.
[18:35] <_21h_> gordonDrogon: do you remember some time ago you made code for ds1302?
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[18:36] <_21h_> i used ds1302ramWrite and ds1302ramRead and got this results:
[18:36] <_21h_> http://paste.org.ru/?yeiluo
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[18:39] <_21h_> gordonDrogon: with ds1302rtcRead and ds1302rtcWrite same problem
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[18:41] <gordonDrogon> hi
[18:42] <gordonDrogon> _21h_, I've no idea. are you using my original test programs?
[18:42] <gordonDrogon> I know that I write a 'proper' driver based on that test program.
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[18:43] <_21h_> gordonDrogon: you shared this code with me :)
[18:43] <gordonDrogon> I know I shared some code, but I don't recall what.
[18:43] <gordonDrogon> hang on.
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[18:44] <_21h_> gordonDrogon: http://unicorn.drogon.net/ds1302.c
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[18:45] <gordonDrogon> ok
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[18:45] <gordonDrogon> do this: cd ; cd wiringPi ; git pull
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> let me know when you've done that.
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[18:46] <gordonDrogon> it should say that wiringPi is up to date.
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> ok, I'm a bit busy right now. if you can't do this now, then prod me later.
[18:47] <keen_commander> What is the function of wiringPi?
[18:47] <_21h_> gordonDrogon: wiringpi installed via pacman
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[18:48] <_21h_> and pacman says lib is up to date
[18:48] <_21h_> hm. but git says no..
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[18:49] <gordonDrogon> pacman? Oh well best forget it then.
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> that version is ancient.
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> there is one official way to get wiringPi and that's via git.
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[18:52] <SwK> wiringPi Rocks!
[18:52] <gordonDrogon> there's no point if me giving you my proper library then as it won't integrate with the pacman version )-:
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> unless you un-install the pacman version and fetch the latest wiringPi.
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[18:53] <gordonDrogon> I think it's great that the Arch people put wiringPi in though.
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> it's just an older version )-:
[18:54] <_21h_> gordonDrogon: i removed pacman's version and build ver. from git
[18:54] <scummos> usually the arch stuff is very up-to-date
[18:54] <scummos> often there's an aur package which is built from git in addition
[18:55] <scummos> not sure however how often they update it if you don't do releases
[18:55] <_21h_> gordonDrogon: same result
[18:55] <gordonDrogon> _21h_, ok. so you have wiringPi, now, in the top level wiringPi directlroy (ie. cd ; cd wiringPi), do: wget http://unicorn.drogon.net/ds1302.tar
[18:55] <gordonDrogon> then tar xf ds1302.tar
[18:56] <gordonDrogon> cd wiringPi ; make ; sudo make install ; cd ../examples ; make ds1302
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[18:58] <_21h_> gordonDrogon: [root@alarmpi rtc3]# ./ds1302 -rtest
[18:58] <_21h_> DS1302 RAM TEST
[18:58] <_21h_> DS1302 RAM Failure: Address: 0, Expected: 0x00, Got: 0xFF
[18:58] <_21h_> DS1302 RAM Failure: Address: 1, Expected: 0x00, Got: 0xFF
[18:58] <_21h_> (
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[18:59] <gordonDrogon> sure - I didn't tell you to run it yet...
[18:59] <_21h_> heh :)
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> you'll need to edit the test program to put in the right pin numbers for your own board.
[18:59] <_21h_> blin :)
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[19:05] <_21h_> gordonDrogon: http://paste.org.ru/?v5pjhy
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[19:10] <gordonDrogon> _21h_, I think it's broken.
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[19:13] <_21h_> hm
[19:14] <_21h_> i'll try connect this module to avr and check it
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[19:24] <Kane> o/
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[19:48] <kill_box> anyone have issues right off with window size?
[19:48] <kill_box> connecting vga atm
[19:50] <w0m> never actually loaded X...
[19:50] <kill_box> ahh
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[19:50] <w0m> (sorry; not helpful; i'll go idle again)
[19:50] <kill_box> ssh?
[19:51] <w0m> and yea; i use my pi headless;
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[20:03] <rikkib> kill_box, Check out /boot/config.txt and set overscan
[20:03] <rikkib> ahhh
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[20:05] <gordonDrogon> with the wind.
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[20:32] <Pumtrix> Just a random question, don't know if anyone will be able to help me out. But..
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[20:33] <Jayface> ok
[20:33] <Pumtrix> How easy would it be to get support for a device that usually doesn't support linux?
[20:33] <Jayface> well it depends what you mean?
[20:33] <Jayface> what device?
[20:33] <Pumtrix> a USB Mobile Dongle.
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[20:33] <ShiftPlusOne> are you sure it doesn't work with linux?
[20:34] <Jayface> most do
[20:34] <Pumtrix> Well the device comes on thursday. - I just searched everywhere and it doesn't say linux support anywhere.
[20:34] <ShiftPlusOne> doesn't need to say it. Do you have the hardware id?
[20:34] <Jayface> well not in there official info
[20:34] <ShiftPlusOne> The official info would most certainly not mention linux.
[20:34] <Jayface> jah if the chipset already has a driver in linux
[20:35] <Jayface> then it will work
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[20:36] <Pumtrix> Huawei e392
[20:36] <Pumtrix> Basically, I'm a final year university student. I'm trying to create a 4G personal hotspot using raspberry pi.
[20:37] <gordonDrogon> the biggest issue with the cheap ones is that you need to "modeswitch" some of them...
[20:37] <Pumtrix> modeswitch?
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[20:37] <Jayface> why dont you buy a 4g dongle with known linux support
[20:37] <Pumtrix> Because I live in the UK.
[20:37] <Pumtrix> and that's the only dongle thats on the market.
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[20:37] <ShiftPlusOne> O_o
[20:38] <Pumtrix> Our 4G auction has only just happened.
[20:38] <Pumtrix> But one operator has their own network live.
[20:38] <Pumtrix> I looked at trying to import a dongle and just use the sim.
[20:38] <Pumtrix> But the frequencies are different.
[20:38] <Jayface> that dog wont hunt?
[20:38] <Jayface> ah
[20:39] <Ryanteck> I can get 4G if I want to pay lots
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[20:39] <ShiftPlusOne> according to this, it works just fine O_o http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=157&t=110283
[20:39] <Ryanteck> but the DC-HSPA is as good around where I live and lots cheaper
[20:39] <Jayface> ive got 4g and to be honest i dont nocite that much of a difference
[20:40] <Pumtrix> erm ShiftPlusOne. wow thanks!
[20:40] <Jayface> amazing what google can do
[20:40] <Ryanteck> I first found 4G worse for my phone first off. Was running slower than 3G
[20:40] <ShiftPlusOne> I have found a few other posts where people mention the dongle working in linux.
[20:40] <Pumtrix> I've been researching this for weeks, I've also implemented a aurdino touchscreen shield onto the pi.
[20:41] <Pumtrix> I'm just waiting for the dongle to come on thursday, I'm a little worried im going to be having alot of issues with it.
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[20:42] <ShiftPlusOne> I would bet that you will
[20:42] <Jayface> only one way to find out
[20:43] <Jayface> i dont know what kind of power that bad boy would draw
[20:43] <Jayface> but some
[20:43] <Pumtrix> Yeah. I've got a feeling with powering the screen, usb dongle and the wirless basestation.
[20:43] <Pumtrix> I'm going to have some further issues.
[20:43] <Pumtrix> haha
[20:43] <Pumtrix> It's all in the name of fun though.
[20:44] <Ryanteck> I have a router coming some day this week for my Pi, wanted a really strong wi-fi client
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[20:44] <Jayface> are you thinking battery?
[20:44] <Jayface> portable?
[20:45] <Pumtrix> Thanks for being helpful btw, I do appreaciate it.
[20:45] <Pumtrix> Not at this stage no.
[20:45] <Jayface> i guess otherwise whats the point
[20:45] <Jayface> ah
[20:45] <Jayface> well one thing at a time
[20:45] <IT_Sean> you will need a powered hub, you know, if you plan to have a 3G and a wifi dongle
[20:45] <Ryanteck> For my use I plan to use it in a robot. It was second hand off ebay for ??6
[20:45] <Pumtrix> The purpose of the study is to evaluate if the poor technical specifications of standard market hotspots affect the datarates given.
[20:46] <Pumtrix> i'm still working on that tag line.
[20:46] <Pumtrix> but i'm sure you get the idea.
[20:46] <Pumtrix> IT_Sean, ah. I thought as much.
[20:46] <Jayface> jah
[20:46] <IT_Sean> You'll defo need a powered hub
[20:46] <Pumtrix> I blew my last one up. Funnily enough.
[20:46] <Pumtrix> the other day.
[20:46] <IT_Sean> O_O
[20:46] <Jayface> you can backpower the pi through it though
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[20:46] <Pumtrix> Took out the whole house electrics.
[20:46] <Pumtrix> actually sh*t myself.
[20:46] <IT_Sean> Jayface: that depends on the hub, actually.
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[20:47] <Jayface> i bet that stunk
[20:47] <Pumtrix> sorry.
[20:47] <Jayface> lol i meant the electrics to clarify
[20:47] <Pumtrix> So I plugged in the hub to the pi.
[20:47] <Pumtrix> and it charged
[20:47] <Pumtrix> then i plugged the hub into the mains.
[20:47] <Pumtrix> 5 seconds later
[20:47] <Pumtrix> the loudest bang happened.
[20:47] <Jayface> magic smoke!
[20:47] <Pumtrix> correct.
[20:47] <IT_Sean> did you kill the pi?
[20:47] <Pumtrix> hub was smoking.
[20:47] <Pumtrix> nope.
[20:48] <Pumtrix> the pi was fine.
[20:48] <Pumtrix> I killed the hub.
[20:48] <IT_Sean> oh
[20:48] <Pumtrix> im lucky tbh.
[20:48] <Jayface> well thats a sliver lining
[20:48] <Pumtrix> I can't afford another pi.
[20:48] <Pumtrix> this final year project has cost me a fortune.
[20:48] <Pumtrix> I hope it's worth it.
[20:48] <ShiftPlusOne> What actually happened? Was it a cheap adapter hooking up your hub to mains directly?
[20:49] <Jayface> did ou have the pi connected to power to?
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[20:49] <Pumtrix> Yeah.
[20:49] <Pumtrix> Well I spoke to my lecturer, and he seems to think the hub didn't swop the current quickly enough.
[20:49] <IT_Sean> that's why.
[20:50] <Pumtrix> So the current from the pi and the current from the hub both surged.
[20:50] <IT_Sean> you should power the pi via the wall adapter OR the hub.
[20:50] <Jayface> jah
[20:50] <Pumtrix> OH really!?
[20:50] * IT_Sean facepalms
[20:50] <IT_Sean> Ja, really.
[20:51] <Pumtrix> Before you think I'm just a n00b, I have bought several of the pi books and read them :[ honest.
[20:51] <IT_Sean> It's okay... noobs are welcome here.
[20:51] <ShiftPlusOne> Aren't those books for noobs?
[20:51] <Pumtrix> yeah.
[20:51] <IT_Sean> so you ARE a noob. That said... it's okay to be a noob.
[20:52] <ShiftPlusOne> it is here anyway
[20:52] <IT_Sean> Well, yeah.
[20:52] <ShiftPlusOne> try ##c or ##linux ... D=
[20:52] <Jayface> lol
[20:52] <IT_Sean> that's not very nice
[20:52] <IT_Sean> they'd eat him alive in there
[20:53] <IT_Sean> :/
[20:53] <Pumtrix> Lol.
[20:53] <Pumtrix> I've been on IRC for about 10 years.
[20:53] <Pumtrix> I'm not a n00b at everythings.
[20:53] <Pumtrix> ;-)
[20:54] <Pumtrix> I've bought a AlaMode for Raspberry Pi, so I can connect the Aurdino Touchscreen to the Pi.
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[20:54] <Pumtrix> I'm "hoping" it will then output the GUI via that not the HDMI socket.
[20:54] * Pumtrix bought another book for that, that I should start reading.
[20:54] <ShiftPlusOne> How is 'that' connected?
[20:54] <Pumtrix> So thanks again.
[20:55] <Pumtrix> that?
[20:55] <IT_Sean> that.
[20:55] <hellsing> the touchscreen
[20:55] <hellsing> usb i guess
[20:55] <Pumtrix> no.
[20:55] <IT_Sean> how then?
[20:55] <ShiftPlusOne> magic?
[20:55] <IT_Sean> probably magic.
[20:55] <Pumtrix> gpio
[20:55] <IT_Sean> You aren't going to ouput a gui via GPIO, Pumtrix... ...
[20:56] <hellsing> the displayn and the touch via gpio?!
[20:56] <ShiftPlusOne> You can read the touchscreen data through gpio, but other than that, what Sean said.
[20:56] <Pumtrix> alright alright.
[20:56] <Jayface> jah
[20:56] <Pumtrix> obviously I've done my research wrong again.
[20:56] <Pumtrix> >.<
[20:56] <Jayface> but there was some arduino talk
[20:56] <Pumtrix> Some uni student I am.
[20:56] <IT_Sean> the video is probably HDMI. Might me composite.
[20:56] <Pumtrix> lol
[20:56] <IT_Sean> But the video is def'nitly not via gpio. :p
[20:57] <Pumtrix> tbh
[20:57] <ShiftPlusOne> Do you have a link to the touchscreen?
[20:57] <hellsing> basic touchscreen use rga for display and usb for the touch
[20:57] <hellsing> (sorry for my bad english)
[20:57] <Pumtrix> No it's fine.
[20:57] <Pumtrix> So that alamode is no use to me then?
[20:57] <Jayface> no
[20:58] <Jayface> not really
[20:58] <IT_Sean> Well... how does it get video, and how does it output toruch data?
[20:58] <rikkib> stm32v
[20:58] <IT_Sean> *touch
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[20:58] <rikkib> $35USD
[20:58] <IT_Sean> If it does touch via USB, and video via HDMI or Composite, you are fine.
[20:58] <Pumtrix> nope.
[20:58] * ShiftPlusOne is struggling with an stm32 F4 right now >=/
[20:58] <Pumtrix> GPIO
[20:58] <Pumtrix> :[
[20:58] <IT_Sean> What is via GPIO?
[20:59] <IT_Sean> it isn't both, cause there is no video via GPIO...
[20:59] <ShiftPlusOne> Pumtrix, link?
[20:59] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/stm32-rpi.jpg
[20:59] <ShiftPlusOne> what touchscreen is it?
[20:59] <hellsing> no i think the gpio is just the interface to an arduino shield, no?
[21:00] <Pumtrix> yes.
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[21:00] <hellsing> so it s for an arduino, not a pi
[21:00] <Pumtrix> adafruit.com/products/376
[21:00] <Pumtrix> correct.
[21:00] <Pumtrix> thats why i bought the admode.
[21:01] <Pumtrix> which was a waste of money apprantly.
[21:01] <Pumtrix> and my lecturer told me to buy it too
[21:01] <Pumtrix> Q_Q
[21:01] <IT_Sean> That's not going to work for the Raspi GUI
[21:01] <IT_Sean> sorry.
[21:01] <hellsing> you should have ask here before
[21:01] <hellsing> an basic 30$ touchscreen from dx can do the job
[21:02] <Pumtrix> It's fine.
[21:02] <Pumtrix> Is there anything else I can get?
[21:03] <hellsing> tell us what you want to do exactly, 4g hotspot ok, need a keyboard etc?
[21:04] <Pumtrix> I need to create a 4G hotspot, so using that mobile dongle, with a touch screen connected and a basestation to create the network.
[21:04] <Pumtrix> I thought I had it thought out, i've been reading shit for days Q_Q
[21:04] <IT_Sean> You'll also need a powered hub
[21:04] <ShiftPlusOne> kick time =D
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[21:04] <Pumtrix> urgh
[21:04] <Pumtrix> sorry
[21:04] <Pumtrix> >.<
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[21:05] <hellsing> you need a battery i guess also
[21:05] <Pumtrix> Nah it's fine to be charged now.
[21:05] <Pumtrix> i can plug it in.
[21:05] <hellsing> which will power the pi, the hub and the screen?
[21:05] <Pumtrix> nah I can talk about that for future development.
[21:05] <Pumtrix> power management etc.
[21:05] <Grievar> shower or breakfast, which should I choose
[21:05] <hellsing> ok
[21:05] <IT_Sean> Grievar: for the sake of everyone else in here, shower.
[21:06] <hellsing> shower
[21:06] <ShiftPlusOne> why not multitask?
[21:06] <IT_Sean> eeew
[21:06] <hellsing> pizza under a shower, miam!
[21:06] <hellsing> or a soup in the bath
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[21:07] <Twist-> Grievar: why are these options mutually exclusive?
[21:07] <Grievar> because I only have 20 minutes before I need to leave for class
[21:07] <IT_Sean> if you had taken a shower instead of logging in here to ask us, you'd have had time for both.
[21:08] <hellsing> so for your classmate sake, shower!
[21:08] <IT_Sean> also... where the heck are you that you are just getting up?
[21:08] <rikkib> Mutli-task FreeRTOS
[21:08] <Grievar> california
[21:08] <Twist-> Grievar: Would you have more time if you left the console now?
[21:08] <hellsing> 20 min? 5 min of shower, and a little breakfast, hurry up
[21:08] <Twist-> Grievar: (you should leave the console now)
[21:09] <hellsing> Pumtrix, do you have the basestation?
[21:10] <Pumtrix> I bought Wi Pi.
[21:10] <Pumtrix> But then seen it only supports ad-hoc.
[21:10] <Pumtrix> and was like k thn.
[21:10] <Pumtrix> so no.
[21:11] <ShiftPlusOne> Pumtrix, did you say something about data transfer speeds?
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[21:11] <IT_Sean> sounds like you need to learn to research stuff before you buy it, Pumtrix :p
[21:11] <Pumtrix> IT_Sean. This was my lecturer!
[21:11] <ShiftPlusOne> What university is this!?
[21:12] <Pumtrix> He was like you'll need that to convert to this screen.
[21:12] <Pumtrix> I know what his excuse will be, "Well i did say I only mostly deal with aurdino, you should of done your project on that"
[21:12] <Pumtrix> Manchester. UK.
[21:12] <rikkib> ShiftPlusOne, What sort of stm board are you using?
[21:12] <Pumtrix> the course is great, this lecturer is just a joke though.
[21:13] <IT_Sean> your lecturer sounds like an idiot.
[21:13] <ShiftPlusOne> rikkib, F4 discovery
[21:13] <rikkib> I thing there are FreeRTOS examples for the Discovery
[21:13] <Twist-> Pumtrix: use both. :D
[21:13] <hellsing> well, you lecturer don't seem to know the pi... at all
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[21:14] <IT_Sean> indeed
[21:14] <Pumtrix> I just thought I'd pop in on IRC. (There's always an IRC channel for everything)
[21:14] <rikkib> ShiftPlusOne, What sort of support software comes with it?
[21:14] <Pumtrix> and see what you guys thought.
[21:14] <Pumtrix> now i've basically been told i've bought the wrong stuffs and im back to square one.
[21:15] <Pumtrix> I might aswell go drink bleach now.
[21:15] * Pumtrix sighs. - Back to the drawing board.
[21:15] <Pumtrix> lol
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[21:16] <hellsing> so the display, what size? look on dx.com a cheap composite for the display and usb for the touch should be fine
[21:16] <ShiftPlusOne> rikkib, I'll look into it. Haven't ever used FreeRTOS before. What do you mean by support software? Everything they provide is for windows, so I am sticking to gcc and gdb.
[21:16] <hellsing> around 30$ i think
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[21:17] <hellsing> sorry, i'm on the pi and web browsing is just ugly
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[21:17] <hellsing> so i can t search it
[21:17] <Pumtrix> lol it's fine.
[21:17] <Pumtrix> I do appreaciate the help.
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[21:17] <Pumtrix> I'll be sure to mention you guys in my acknowledgements.
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[21:18] <rikkib> ShiftPlusOne, I use Eclipse, OpenOCD and Olimex JTag (ARM-USB-OCD-H)
[21:18] <Pumtrix> "And to all the guys of #raspberrypi on freenode, who made me realise what a loser my lecturer is."
[21:18] <SgrA> :)
[21:18] <rikkib> ShiftPlusOne, I use makefile projects
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[21:18] <rikkib> Of course under Linux
[21:18] <hellsing> Pumtrix, for the hub, there is a list of working usb hub on the forum
[21:19] <chupacabra> So the Pi wont reboot? that sux.
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[21:19] <hellsing> for the wifi i don't know, i only trust rj45
[21:19] <ShiftPlusOne> rikkib, I don't have much of a problem with the dev environment. I can compile and flash and debug just fine. Just a lot of new stuff to learn for me.
[21:20] <rikkib> ShiftPlusOne, You can find instructions on the net to set up the cross compiler
[21:20] <chupacabra> those cheap usb with antenna wifi on ebay work well
[21:20] <rikkib> ShiftPlusOne, Do you flash via the serial boot loader?
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[21:20] <Pumtrix> chupacabra as a basestation?
[21:21] <rikkib> ShiftPlusOne, If so JTag does it about 4 times faster
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[21:21] <ShiftPlusOne> the built in stlink thing is jtag, isn't it?
[21:21] <rikkib> ShiftPlusOne, Plus you get better debug
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[21:21] <chupacabra> Pumtrix, dunnoo why not.
[21:21] <rikkib> Yep I think so
[21:22] <chupacabra> a radio is a radio
[21:22] <ShiftPlusOne> Well, I am using that and the debug env is great, so I am pretty sure it's jtag. But I am new to this, so who knows
[21:23] <chupacabra> 6.69 free shipping. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-150Mbps-USB-Wireless-Network-Card-802-11n-g-b-w-Antenna-WiFi-LAN-Adapter-/330697077638?pt=US_USB_Wi_Fi_Adapters_Dongles&hash=item4cff14f386
[21:24] <hellsing> Pumtrix, : http://www.elinux.org/RPI-Wireless-Hotspot
[21:24] <Pumtrix> funnily enough
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[21:25] <Pumtrix> i've seen that hellsing.
[21:25] <hellsing> but i don't get why your wifi card don't work
[21:25] <netw1z> anyone have a recommendation for a microphone?
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[21:25] <Pumtrix> Because it doesn't support access point mode.
[21:25] <chupacabra> It may have access point disabled. dunno. Use ad-hoc then
[21:25] <hellsing> netw1z, there is no voice input on the pi, so not a jack mic...
[21:25] <Pumtrix> only ad-hock mode.
[21:26] <netw1z> that blows.
[21:26] <Pumtrix> hang on.
[21:26] <Pumtrix> hmm.
[21:26] <Pumtrix> you could be right.
[21:26] <netw1z> i was using a bluetooth speaker for input
[21:26] <netw1z> but its very scratchy
[21:26] <netw1z> microphone input that is
[21:26] <netw1z> maybe i have to find the right one
[21:26] <rikkib> ShiftPlusOne, Last two days I started working on my stm32v - RPi project... Takes a long time to figure stuff out. Have upgraded to the latest version of FreeRTOS v7.4.0
[21:27] <chupacabra> Provides two work modes: Infrastructure and Ad-Hoc.
[21:27] <ShiftPlusOne> I am not sure that I need any of the freertos features.
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[21:28] <hellsing> netw1z, and an usb mic, have you tried?
[21:28] <rikkib> ShiftPlusOne, Destroyed the little bit of work I did on the rpi serial link and can't figure out what I have done wrong... As well as not being able to figure out what I did roght to make it go in the first place... STM libs are tricky.
[21:28] <netw1z> i have not tried a USB microphone
[21:29] <netw1z> any one to recommend?
[21:29] <netw1z> trying to find something small and portable
[21:29] <hellsing> never tried on the pi, but i have a logitech which works great on my desktop, but quite huge
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[21:30] <netw1z> gotcha, im going toward making this rPi project portable
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[21:30] <ShiftPlusOne> rikkib, sounds like a pain =/ they are great boards though, just difficult to get started with. Not many resources for the clueless out there >.>
[21:30] <chupacabra> is there no command that will make the Pi totally reboot?
[21:30] <ShiftPlusOne> how about 'reboot'?
[21:31] <hellsing> sudo restart?
[21:31] <chupacabra> just stops
[21:31] <ShiftPlusOne> reboots fine on mine
[21:31] <ShiftPlusOne> reboot it over ssh quite reliably
[21:31] <applegekko> i wish mine would stop with halt, but it just reboots it :/
[21:31] <chupacabra> wait. maybe the powered usb hub is keeping it from going down
[21:32] <rikkib> ShiftPlusOne, Send me an email if you want help via email... pwb@bencom dot co dot nz
[21:32] <hellsing> ShiftPlusOne> reboots fine on mine-> i agree
[21:32] <chupacabra> is my powered usb hub supposed to light the lights on Pi?
[21:32] <Pumtrix> http://www.chalk-elec.com/?page_id=1280#!/~/product/category=3094861&id=14647630 <--- is this the only touchscreen around o.o?
[21:32] <gordonDrogon> sudo reboot
[21:33] <ShiftPlusOne> rikkib, thanks for the offer, I might. I will keep pushing on for now, but if I hit a real hurdle, I will bug you.
[21:34] <chupacabra> Ill be darn. Rebooting this time. I love wack stuff ilke that.
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[21:35] <rikkib> ShiftPlusOne, Start by making the leds blink
[21:35] <chupacabra> gotta set up autologin
[21:35] <Scriven> Pumtrix, there's also the 4d Systems LCD w/ touchscreens, and a few people w/ success w/ others.
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[21:36] <Scriven> gordonDrogon has some write-ups of his experiments w/ them on his site IIRC, Pumtrix
[21:36] <gordonDrogon> the 4d screens are neat.
[21:36] <gordonDrogon> cost the same as a Pi, but neat.
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[21:37] <Scriven> cost more than the pi! lol
[21:37] <anew> is raspberry wheezy the only option for debian? i need another which i can install firefox on
[21:37] <hellsing> why can t you on the wheezy?
[21:37] <Scriven> Saving my pennies for one of the 4.3 capacitive touch models, have lots of ideas on how to use it. ;)
[21:37] <rikkib> ShiftPlusOne, Sooner or later you will find out why using FreeRTOS is a requirement... Not so important with the F4 Discovery but for my stm32v with its screen and touch it really is mandatory to run a multi-task os.
[21:37] <anew> not 100% sure hellsing.
[21:37] <anew> i uninstalled iceweasy
[21:37] <anew> and there is no package for firefox now
[21:38] <Scriven> would like a good 4.3" touchscreen interface to go on top of my LCD too, dual-touch-screens would be cool. One as RCA-out w/ touch, other the 4d systems serial-port one.
[21:38] <hellsing> normal, it is not in the basic repository
[21:38] <anew> how would i install it ?
[21:38] <Scriven> gordonDrogon, Those 4d systems take over the serial tho yes, so other gpio-boards that use serial can't be used with them, is that correct?
[21:38] <gordonDrogon> Scriven, yes, serial. they're not framebuffer screens.
[21:39] <hellsing> reinstall iceweasel....
[21:39] <ShiftPlusOne> rikkib, my project is going to be all fairly linear and without multiple threads, so I should be able to manage without it.
[21:39] <Scriven> gordonDrogon, have you tried communicating over i2c w/ them? I know both are masters, but can't remember if one can handle that or not.
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> Scriven, the 4d displays don't have i2c
[21:40] <anew> hellsing i cant use iceweasel
[21:40] <hellsing> why? it the same as firefox
[21:41] <rikkib> ShiftPlusOne, Touch screens need fast response times otherwise you can miss a touch.
[21:41] <anew> yes but i am using perl modules, it just makes my life hell using iceweasel
[21:41] <anew> i woul dhave to modify perl modules
[21:41] <anew> so ... i need firefox
[21:41] <hellsing> and look for some .deb compiled for arm, or compile firefox for your pi
[21:41] <anew> if someone can help me
[21:41] <gordonDrogon> most touch screens can signal an interrupt back to the OS on the first touch.
[21:41] <ShiftPlusOne> rikkib, I'll just be using a character display and a few buttons for navigation.
[21:41] <anew> compile firefox for my pi ? how ?
[21:42] <hellsing> make and sudo make install i think, if it like on any linux
[21:42] <ShiftPlusOne> but yeah, I understand why what you're working on really needs an rtos.
[21:43] <Scriven> gordonDrogon, Sorry, that's incorrect according to the 4d systems website ( http://www.4dsystems.com.au/prod.php?id=155 ): "1 x I2C interface (Master)."
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[21:44] <Scriven> maybe it's only the ulcd43 version
[21:44] <gordonDrogon> rikkib, you running freertos on the Pi?
[21:44] <rikkib> No on the stm32v
[21:44] <rikkib> and I use polling for the touch screen
[21:45] <gordonDrogon> Scriven, ok, you win. However the code I wrote for the Pi for the Interface 4D developed to connect their screens to the Pi does not use I2C and can not use I2C as their systems won't use it.
[21:46] <Pumtrix> Where would be the best place to start researching for different touch screens.
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[21:46] <Pumtrix> And please don't say google.
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[21:46] <hellsing> Pumtrix, wait, will find you one
[21:46] <gordonDrogon> do you want a framebuffer display or something dedicated to a different task?
[21:46] <hellsing> need to start a real computer
[21:47] <Scriven> gordonDrogon, Wasn't about winning, sorry! I had just asked if you (since you're the only one I know with one of these in-hand) have tried to use the i2c, that's all!
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[21:47] <Scriven> Just trying to see how these can be connected together other than serial, if possible.
[21:48] <gordonDrogon> Scriven, they displays are programmed in many ways - I'm using a very high level display designed that runs under Windows that lets you design the display, then it downlaods your design into it - you then communicate with it using very high level commands over serial - you don't need i2c, spi, or anything - the display does the images, buttons, etc. for you.
[21:49] <gordonDrogon> they do have displays you can poke pixels at, but they're really getting away from that.
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[21:51] <rikkib> Not being able to set the RPi to spi slave makes things more challenging for me with the stm32v. I think I will have to use serial input to get screen touches to the RPi.
[21:53] <Scriven> gordonDrogon, ok, ty.
[21:54] <rikkib> Would be in if I could use a GPIO pin to switch from master to slave... Wish people would stick to the original spi spec which lets you change modes by using the nss (slave select) line. In cases of nss contention the all devices are supposed to switch to slave mode.
[21:55] <rikkib> would be nice... to make the sentence make sense
[21:55] <double-you> is there an instruction on how to make a pi info webpage showing information about the pi?
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[21:55] <gordonDrogon> rikkib, I'm reading a touchscreen directly on the pi without any fuss...
[21:56] <ShiftPlusOne> double-you, this sort of deal? http://www.linux-toys.com/pi/
[21:56] <rikkib> hmmmm
[21:56] <double-you> ShiftPlusOne: yes, exactly
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[21:56] <ShiftPlusOne> double-you, you want to code your own, or just take the source of that one?
[21:57] <gordonDrogon> rikkib, most touchscreen controllers have an interrupt output on first touch. you can poll for position after that.
[21:57] <rikkib> Sounds like you are continuously sending on the spi to get stuff back
[21:57] <double-you> ShiftPlusOne: I'd like to take this one as sample
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[21:57] <FUZxxl> Hello!
[21:57] <ShiftPlusOne> double-you, can be downloaded here http://www.atouk.com/wordpress/?page_id=238
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[21:58] <gordonDrogon> I'm using i2c ...
[21:58] <rikkib> Thanks for the tip Gordon... I shall do some investigation...
[21:58] <FUZxxl> I have an old modell B with 256 MiB RAM. What is the minimum amount of RAM I can give to the GPU? The Pi is not connected to any graphical output devices.
[21:58] <rikkib> The touch does have an interrupt I think
[21:58] <gordonDrogon> FUZxxl, gpu_mem=16 is fine.
[21:59] <FUZxxl> gordonDrogon: Can I set gpu_mem=0?
[21:59] <gordonDrogon> FUZxxl, no.
[21:59] <FUZxxl> okay
[21:59] <double-you> ShiftPlusOne: thank you! did you write the source?
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[21:59] <ShiftPlusOne> double-you, no, that's atouk's
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[22:01] <rikkib> I guess I can do it in software as well. Always trying to work with minimum signal lines if possible... Interrupt driven in the way you suggest will require a gpio pin.
[22:01] <gordonDrogon> indeed.
[22:01] <gordonDrogon> are you using a framebuffer type of display, or some dedicated application type display?
[22:02] <rikkib> the spi spec even though unwritten can be used to reduce pin count (bus contention mediation) or something like that.
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[22:03] <rikkib> breakfast
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[22:06] <Pumtrix> http://dx.com/p/mini-stm32-stm32f103rbt6-development-board-w-2-8-tft-lcd-touch-screen-157301
[22:07] <Pumtrix> is this the type of screen i should be looking at?
[22:07] <ShiftPlusOne> Hm, this could be handy for the pi as an alternative to youtube-dl https://inconsolation.wordpress.com/2013/02/27/get-flash-videos-tsia/
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[22:12] <gordonDrogon> Hm. This is interesting - with the latest foundation kernel, 3.6.11+ the I2C pins are set to output by default and set to low/logic 0.
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[22:43] <rikkib> Pumtrix, That link is not the stm32v. It has a 3.2" touch screen. I have one of those ministm boards. They are next to useless as far as io goes.
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[22:45] <rikkib> gordonDrogon, The stm32v is hooked to the FSMC bus so all processing has to go through the arm micro which has a much better spi interface than the RPi. ie it can do 16 bit + auto crc
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[22:45] <senoraraton> I'm trying to understand which HDMI cable I should buy for my raspberry pi.
[22:46] <IT_Sean> ?
[22:46] <IT_Sean> standard HDMI cable.
[22:46] <rikkib> FSMC bus goes to the stm32d display module
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[22:46] <rikkib> You can but the displays from China as a separate item
[22:46] <senoraraton> Is that Type A to Type A? The ones listed on most sites that sell the Pi are Type A to Type B
[22:46] <rikkib> buy
[22:47] <gordonDrogon> senoraraton, one that fits your Pi and TV ...
[22:47] <senoraraton> I don't have my pi, and I can't find the specs on the port.
[22:47] <pronto> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024008&p_id=3872&seq=1&format=2
[22:47] <pronto> (if i understand the convo, you'are asking about hdmi cable)
[22:48] <plugwash> The Pi has a standard size HDMI socket so to connect it to a normal TV you want a standard HDMI to standard HDMI cable
[22:48] <pronto> the cable i linked will work, (and if you can, i highly reccomend using monoprice)
[22:49] <TAFB_afk> I heart monoprice. They also make the absolute best microUSB power cable for the Pi :) Every Pi should ship with one dammit!
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[22:49] <TAFB_afk> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=103&cp_id=10303&cs_id=1030307&p_id=5458&seq=1&format=2
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[22:50] <gordonDrogon> wrong currency.
[22:51] * linuxstb had no idea there were types A, B, C, D and E of HDMI connector.
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[22:53] <senoraraton> Can I use that micro usb to usb and an iphone charger to connect my pi?
[22:54] <TAFB_afk> for sure, iphone chargers work great
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[22:55] <senoraraton> Or is there an adapter from wall to usb on monoprice? If I order the HDMI the shipping costs so much, might as well just add the rest of it to the oder.
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[22:55] <TAFB_afk> where do yu live senoraraton?
[22:56] <senoraraton> USA
[22:57] <TAFB_afk> Then I would recommend this: http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=108&cp_id=10851&cs_id=1085102&p_id=8856&seq=1&format=2
[22:57] <TAFB_afk> It's a monster, I run two Pi's of it AND charge my phone at the same time, no problems :)
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[23:07] <senoraraton> Any suggestions for a 16/32 SD card? And then I think I'm done with todays shopping spree.
[23:08] <TAFB_afk> the best performance you can get out of the Pi is using this one: http://www.amazon.com/Patriot-Memory-PEF32GSHC10233-Series-Class/dp/B007R9NJ6E
[23:08] <senoraraton> Do they pay you as an affiliate?:P
[23:09] <TAFB_afk> lol :)
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[23:11] <linuxstb> Anyone from the UK have a decent multi-port USB power adapter?
[23:16] <senoraraton> One more thing, I'm setting up the Pi to play music/videos. I was looking into a remote, and the suggestion seemed to be RF, are there RF usb adaptors/remotes?
[23:16] <linuxstb> Does your TV support CEC?
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[23:19] <senoraraton> Looking up the specs, but I'm going to say no.
[23:20] <senoraraton> No mention of it on the product website.
[23:22] <linuxstb> OK, then ignore me.
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[23:22] <senoraraton> I'm looking at something like this: http://www.chill-innovation.com/products/products.php?kategori=22&products=45
[23:23] <senoraraton> The real question is, does it matter if its bluetooth or rf?
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[23:24] <linuxstb> Yes. Personally I would stay away from bluetooth (too troublesome to setup). RF devices probably just look like normal USB keyboards to the Pi.
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[23:26] <quchen> Morning everyone. So while my RasPi is in the mail, I'm wondering how to expand on the GPIO pins. Suppose I want to address 100 LEDs, how would I go about that? I couldn't find boards expanding on some ridiculous amount of GPIO pins, so I guess that's not the way to go.
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[23:26] <tzarc> charlieplexing
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[23:29] <quchen> tzarc: Thank you sir.
[23:29] <mgottschlag> doesn't the brightness rapidly decrease with such a large amount of leds and charlieplexing?
[23:30] <tzarc> highly likely - never done it at such a large number of LEDs
[23:31] <mgottschlag> if so, a more simple led grid might work better
[23:31] <mgottschlag> still needs an LED driver because the pi cannot provide enough current
[23:32] <senoraraton> If the micro keyboard is listed as supported in linux, is it safe to assume it will work with the PI?
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[23:32] <SpeedEvil> quchen: more pis.
[23:32] <quchen> SpeedEvil: I don't think I want to have the trouble of synchronizing a cluster just to light a few LEDs ;-)
[23:32] <Twist-> quchen: Explore LED multiplexing using shift registers to understand the concept. There are also LED matrix display driver ICs that can handle this so you don't have to build everything from scratch.
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[23:33] <quchen> Twist-: Catchwords are a good start, thanks
[23:33] <pecorade> Hi.
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[23:34] <_21h_> gordonDrogon i found ds1302 issue
[23:34] <_21h_> data pin must be pulled down to ground :)
[23:35] <_21h_> i tested it on my mega32
[23:35] <Twist-> quchen: Yep. It's a commonly done thing. You'll find numerous tutorials and videos using those search terms.
[23:36] <quchen> Twist-: So the idea is either making the LEDs flicker to the point where you can't perceive it anymore, or hooking a capacitor to them to make them stay on for some time?
[23:36] <Twist-> The former.
[23:37] <tzarc> I've used it to drive banks of 7seg displays, makes life easy
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[23:39] <Twist-> quchen: The reason I suggest learning how to do this manually before graduating to an LED driver chip is that shift registers are generally useful for expanding your available number of I/O pins.
[23:40] <Twist-> http://www.instructables.com/id/LED-matrix-using-shift-registers/
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[23:40] <Twist-> I don't know if that's decent. I usually avoid instructables.com for aesthetic reasons.
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[23:42] <quchen> Twist-: Thanks, expanding on the number of GPIO pins was kind of what I was getting at.
[23:42] <quchen> And by GPIO I mean "stuff that talks to the outside" ;-)
[23:43] <Twist-> quchen: Yep. I read your original requirement. You know. Just for variety.
[23:43] <quchen> I'm sure this will come in handy, thanks!
[23:44] <Twist-> quchen: you could also directly drive leds off a shift register if you wanted to do something simple like a Larsen scanner
[23:45] <Twist-> multiplexing may be overcomplicating the issue.
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[23:46] <quchen> Oh, I see. Shift registers are basically chained flipflops that retain their information until I choose to overwrite them. So I'm adressing a matrix linewise
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