#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-02-27

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

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[0:01] * jackmackg (~pi@cpe-76-187-191-192.tx.res.rr.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:02] <jackmackg> hello pi
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[1:17] <Ben-> hi
[1:18] * oldtopman (~oldtopman@unaffiliated/oldtopman) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:18] <Ben-> I have a problem: I'm using raspbmc and I can somehow not forward ports to my raspberry pi. I'm also using transmission, tried different ports but I can't connect from a non-local network
[1:19] <Ben-> I think its not a router problem since I can't forward port to my w8 pc without problems
[1:20] * ColdFireStarter (~chaoshax@cpc10-swin15-2-0-cust231.3-1.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
[1:20] <Ben-> in my local network, I can use the transmission web client without problems from any device, so there should actually be a service running
[1:20] <Ben-> but I have no access from outside of my local network
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[1:23] <netw1z> shitty router
[1:23] <netw1z> my router is funky too
[1:23] <netw1z> sometimes gotta reboot it
[1:24] <Ben-> agree that my router is shitty, but to be fair I dont think it's the router's fault here
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[1:31] <dArth_mAlek> openelec or rasbmc? i know rasbmc went 1.0
[1:32] <Ben-> as I said, raspbmc
[1:32] <Ben-> fresh network installation
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[1:34] <Scriven> Is there any way for me to force raspbmc to update to 1.0? it doesn't seem to want to by itself (have auto-update turned on), and also doesn't seem to want to by apt-get
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[2:07] <RedR> Ben- you turn off the firewall in raspbmc?
[2:08] <RedR> far as updating to 1.0, you'll need to do a fresh install, updates are not an option for getting to final
[2:08] <Ben-> there is a firewall?
[2:08] * shurizzle (~shura@unaffiliated/shurizzle) Quit (Quit: bye.)
[2:08] <RedR> lol yes in release, didnt see your Q about updating till after ;P
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[2:09] <Ben-> Q?
[2:09] <RedR> qustion
[2:09] <Ben-> how can I turn it off?
[2:09] <RedR> Programs -> raspbmc settings
[2:10] <RedR> network tab I THINK
[2:10] <Ben-> is there a command line option?
[2:10] <RedR> dont know
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[2:11] <RedR> tho its ideal to make changes via the GUI when possible
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[2:12] * StubbornTurtle (~StubbornT@wsip-174-79-250-227.sd.sd.cox.net) Quit (Quit: StubbornTurtle)
[2:12] <RedR> FYI there is a #raspbmc channel on this server. Folks there know vastly more than I on raspbmc
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[2:15] <Ben-> lol firewall was not disabled. I disabled it, restarting now
[2:17] <Ben-> HAHAH AWESOME
[2:17] <Ben-> wow RedR you're the best
[2:17] <Ben-> thanks
[2:17] <RedR> gladly
[2:18] <RedR> mind you, now its your routers job to protect your Pi
[2:18] <Ben-> any tips on how to do that specifically?
[2:20] <RedR> that's prolly an endless topic ;P
[2:20] <linuxstb> Don't connect your router to the internet.
[2:20] <RedR> lol
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[2:20] <RedR> prolly sage to say any avg SOHO router will do it by default
[2:20] <RedR> prolly safe to say*
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[3:00] <wictor> hey
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[3:23] <SebastianFlyte> I can't seem to mount a vfat format USB such that multiple users can write to it... is there any way around this?
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[3:28] <ParkerR> TAFB_afk, Ping
[3:28] * Bercik (~Yotsuba@unaffiliated/bercik) Quit (Ping timeout: 264 seconds)
[3:28] <TAFB_afk> what did I tell you about pings!
[3:29] <Armand> ParkerR, Pong
[3:29] <ParkerR> TAFB_afk, menu.addChoice ("Enter a new Pixfile");
[3:29] <ParkerR> menu.addChoice ("Display all information about one Pixfile based on the Pixfile?s name");
[3:29] <ParkerR> menu.addChoice ("Display all information about one Pixfile based on the photographer?s name");
[3:29] <ParkerR> menu.addChoice ("Display the names of *all* Pixfiles, sorted by Pixfile name");
[3:29] <ParkerR> menu.addChoice ("Display the names and sizes of the smallest and largest Pixfiles");
[3:29] <ParkerR> menu.addChoice ("Quit the program");
[3:29] <ParkerR> Gaah
[3:29] <ParkerR> Sorry about that.
[3:29] <TAFB_afk> lol
[3:29] <TAFB_afk> paste fail
[3:29] * Armand hits ParkerR with a life-raft
[3:29] <ParkerR> TAFB_afk, http://minecrafted.mooo.com/
[3:30] <TAFB_afk> ParkerR: that dun look like a Pi :)
[3:30] <ParkerR> TAFB_afk, Naah server I resurrected
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[3:30] <TAFB_afk> what OS?
[3:30] <ParkerR> Debian wheezy
[3:30] <TAFB_afk> nice! and apache? *puke* ;)
[3:30] <Armand> ParkerR, I've got a dual P3-800 here you might be interested in.. ;)
[3:31] <TAFB_afk> what is mooo.com?
[3:31] * audiodef (~quassel@pool-71-191-172-210.washdc.fios.verizon.net) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
[3:31] <ParkerR> TAFB_afk, Free DNS redirect :)
[3:32] <TAFB_afk> nice. I like it :)
[3:32] <ParkerR> Machine is a Dell Poweredge 6400
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[3:32] <TAFB_afk> they are crazy loud are they not?
[3:32] <Armand> I had a 1300/400..
[3:32] <Armand> It died. :(
[3:32] <ParkerR> TAFB_afk, Little bit
[3:32] <TAFB_afk> lol
[3:33] <TAFB_afk> what are you gonna do wif it? just web? e-mail too? anything minecraft related? ;p;
[3:33] <TAFB_afk> lol
[3:33] <Armand> I need to sell my server. :/
[3:33] <ParkerR> TAFB_afk, Just SSH and web atm
[3:33] <TAFB_afk> my friend is giving his MONSTER server away for free. thing is huge.
[3:34] <Armand> lol
[3:34] <ParkerR> And fileserver too. Just havent got that set up
[3:34] <Armand> I have a Proliant G1/2 ??
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[3:34] <Armand> It's a beast!
[3:34] <TAFB_afk> http://sphotos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/482756_10151267323232680_767157562_n.jpg
[3:34] <ParkerR> :O
[3:34] <Armand> Mmmmmm
[3:34] <TAFB_afk> his new server: http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/857475_10151267316432680_840900237_o.jpg
[3:34] <Armand> Nice rack. ;)
[3:35] <TAFB_afk> and this is in the guys house! lol
[3:35] <Armand> Did I tell you.. I'm working for a webhost/server provider ?
[3:35] <TAFB_afk> yeah, always jealous of his servers :) http://tafb.xxx/south_park_I_just_came.png
[3:35] <Scriven> I've got a half-height rack @home... I thought everyone had rackmount @home?
[3:35] <Armand> lol
[3:35] <Armand> I want one..
[3:35] <TAFB_afk> as soon as I can get some descent (upload) internet here, I'm gettin a rack.
[3:36] <ParkerR> http://minecrafted.mooo.com/parker/pictures/
[3:36] <piney> i have a wall mounted rack for patch panels and network gear. nothing for servers :(
[3:36] <TAFB_afk> Armand: congrats on the ISP job! Post a speedtest.net score from a machine on their network :)
[3:36] <Armand> I will, from the new DC... when we get there. :P
[3:36] <Armand> We're not an ISP, just hosting.
[3:37] <TAFB_afk> ahhh, good stuff :)
[3:37] <TAFB_afk> where's it located?
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[3:37] <Armand> Maidenhead, mostly.
[3:37] * TAFB_afk googles Maidenhead
[3:37] <Armand> Just outside London.. we have major pipes though. :D
[3:38] <TAFB_afk> ahhh england :)
[3:38] <TAFB_afk> I need faster speed for my UK customers, maybe you guys can help :)
[3:38] <Armand> Sunny (fnarr) England
[3:38] <Armand> You got PM. ;)
[3:38] <TAFB_afk> thanks :) i'll check it out
[3:39] <TAFB_afk> What I need is live stream re-streaming, like http://click2stream.com
[3:39] <TAFB_afk> no transcoding or anything, so no cpu required, just bandwidth
[3:39] <Armand> Should be easy enough.. feel free to name-drop on your order. ;)
[3:39] <TAFB_afk> will do, thx :)
[3:39] <Armand> ^_^
[3:40] <Armand> We're in the process of moving to a new DC.. plenty of money being spent.
[3:41] <TAFB_afk> tell em to get into video hosting/recording/streaming, huge money in it, lots of places suck donkey balls at doing it now, especially to customers on your side of the pond.
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[3:41] <Armand> One of our staff has a video streaming site, so it's certainly not a struggle for us. :)
[3:42] <Armand> We provide basic webhosting, cpanel & cloud.. VDS & dedicated servers, mail servers, etc..
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[3:45] <TAFB_afk> VDS?
[3:46] <Armand> Virtual servers
[3:46] <Armand> 'VPS'
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[3:48] <TAFB_afk> haha. k :)
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[4:58] <xiambax> I got a working piratebox on an old raspberry pi and a wrt54g i had kicking around
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[5:02] <rikkib> Nasty bitter... 3.6 meter shark munched a guy in NZ today. Be kind to animals. Kiss a shark.
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[5:04] <rikkib> Police shot at it to get the 40 year old dead man back.
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[5:09] <hyperair> rikkib: did he survive?
[5:09] <rikkib> Police shot at it to get the 40 year old dead man back.
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[5:22] <SpeedEvil> maybe hyperair was asking about the shark
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[5:27] <hyperair> nah i was asking about the man
[5:28] <hyperair> oh dead man.
[5:28] * hyperair didn't read properly
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[5:29] <columbo> hey guys i'm running the raspberry pi wheezy img on qemu arm on windows 8
[5:30] <columbo> im pretty happy with it and i want to buy the pi but i want to get the best deal
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[5:30] <hyperair> it's $20. what best deal do you want?
[5:30] <xiambax> Any new cool raspberry pi projects?
[5:31] <columbo> hyperair: on amazon it's like 47 bucks shipped
[5:31] <hyperair> ah
[5:31] <hyperair> find a local reseller?
[5:31] <xiambax> cheapest to wait a while and get one from newark
[5:31] <columbo> thanks i'll look around at microcenter possibly
[5:31] <columbo> maybe frys
[5:32] <columbo> im in los angeles
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[5:36] <xiambax> didn't someone from here make a website with all the latest raspberry pi distrobutions?
[5:37] <xiambax> Im sorry you live in LA columbo
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[5:41] <columbo> it was 76F today xiambax
[5:41] <xiambax> Its not the weather I'm referring too lol
[5:42] <columbo> i feel like it's the best place in the world to live
[5:42] <xiambax> To each their own I suppose.
[5:43] <columbo> well we've got hollywood, california wines, long beach port, i can drive to silicon valley, mexico, or vegas within a few hours
[5:43] <columbo> huge agriculture industry, great beaches, lots of entertainement venues
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[5:44] <columbo> so i'm on the newark website looks like i can order from there
[5:44] <xiambax> Yup
[5:44] <columbo> so many shipping options though
[5:44] <xiambax> May be backordered
[5:44] <subv> total thumbs up to openelec.. runs perfectly
[5:45] <xiambax> if you have geeky friends order a few I'm sure you will be able to sell them easy
[5:45] <xiambax> I have 4
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[5:47] <Scriven> columbo, police shooting at random people in an attempt to cover-up their years of bullcrap?
[5:49] <columbo> Scriven: yeah LAPD are assholes
[5:49] <Scriven> I wouldn't even visit the city given the LAPD's actions right now. Completely off the radar as a worthwhile place to go.
[5:50] <columbo> but i've dealt with police in Pasadnena area and they have always been chill
[5:50] <Scriven> IMNSHO of course.
[5:50] <columbo> *Pasadena
[5:50] <Scriven> nevermind the gauntlet at the border I'd have to run, given my 3-foot long dreadlocks. lol
[5:50] <Scriven> US border, since I'm foreign to
[5:50] <Scriven> to USA. ;)
[5:50] <columbo> where are you from Scriven ?
[5:51] <Scriven> Canuckistan.
[5:51] <Scriven> near Vancouver area, so Tropical Canuckistan. ;)
[5:51] <columbo> yeah the whole LAPD thing is avoidable
[5:51] <Scriven> yup, avoid LA. lol
[5:53] <columbo> i was doing 85mph on the 210 on Sunday night, had a cop shine his light at me didn't even bother stopping me
[5:54] <columbo> just letting me know to slow down
[5:55] <columbo> you have to understand it's not easy dealing with the gang problem for these cops
[5:56] <columbo> but I don't know, like I said I've never had problems with the police being dicks
[5:57] <columbo> when I was a teenager I smoked a lot of weed, twice I had police catch me and just tell tell me to dump the weed
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[5:57] <columbo> no citations just cops being cool about it
[5:57] <PReDiToR> In the main, cops make their mind up about people very quickly. If you ever get stopped by the cops, guilty of something or not, smile and say good afternoon officer or another suitably friendly greeting.
[5:58] <columbo> another time I got wasted at a bar in Redondo Beach, the police let me sleep it off at the jail and brought me McDondalds in the morning
[5:58] <columbo> again no citation
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[5:58] <PReDiToR> That in itself is assault lol
[5:58] <piney> i prefer turning the camera on and giving them a hard time
[6:00] <columbo> went back to the bar a few weeks later and some of the cops were joking with me about it
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[6:01] <columbo> so again I've never had problems with the police, they've always been cool with me
[6:03] <columbo> though I bet if I was a gang banger I would have had different outcomes
[6:03] <columbo> they definitely fucked up though shooting suspects first in the Dorner case
[6:03] <Scriven> columbo, they perpetuate the 'gang problem' by supporting blanket prohibitions. I have NO sympathy for them, they've dug their own hole, and are still digging hard and fast.
[6:04] <piney> columbo, watch the language please
[6:04] <columbo> oh No Foul language in topic my bad
[6:05] <columbo> im using putty on low resolution didn't see immediately catch that
[6:06] <piney> it happens, typically the 'powers that be' allow accidental slip-ups
[6:06] <columbo> thanks for the heads up
[6:07] <columbo> i'm using the raspberry pi wheezy image as an irssi proxy
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[6:07] <columbo> which is my plan for the pi when I finally get it
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[6:08] <columbo> maybe do some perl Net::Twitter
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[6:08] <columbo> but I haven't installed that yet
[6:08] <piney> plan on sshing in to the pi, or does irssi do irc bouning?
[6:08] <columbo> the image is pretty complete but I noticed it's missing some build tools like tar
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[6:09] <columbo> probably ssh and screen
[6:09] <columbo> but irssi does let you do irc bouncing
[6:09] <piney> i like my GUI chat client, but plan on installing an irc bouncer some time
[6:10] <piney> didn't know that. opens ideas
[6:10] <columbo> yeah I think it lets you use different ports for each network as well
[6:11] <piney> debian has a fairly old package of znc and don't want to compile my own
[6:11] <piney> so looking at other options
[6:12] <columbo> yeah irssi is pretty nice, you can add bitlbee for jabber, msn, yahoo, icq too
[6:12] <columbo> or twirssi for twitter
[6:13] <columbo> I like to keep a hilight window that copies @replies and keyword searches which is nice too
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[6:13] <PReDiToR> irssi is pretty much the best client in the world.
[6:13] <Twist-> PReDiToR: Have you tried weechat?
[6:13] <PReDiToR> I have. A while ago.
[6:13] * piney likes his xchat
[6:14] <Twist-> did irssi ever gain the capacity for vertical splits?
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[6:15] <columbo> Twist-: yeah
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[6:15] <columbo> /window new should create a new vertically split window
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[6:15] <PReDiToR> I have just searched DDG and the answer seems to be no
[6:16] <Twist-> columbo: it does not. let me check the version..
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[6:16] <Twist-> 0.8.15
[6:16] <columbo> oh you're right PReDiToR /window new creates a horizonal split
[6:17] <Twist-> columbo: that's what got me on weechat. the superior window management.
[6:18] <PReDiToR> I'm using my RasPi as a mail server, so irssi in screen through SSH is the one for me. There is a GUI running that I can VNC into though.
[6:19] <knoppies> where is my $PATH stored in raspbian? Its not in /etc/environment
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[6:20] <knoppies> piney, have you come up with many alternatives to the znc in the repos?
[6:20] <SpeedEvil> I'm on a several month old kernel.
[6:21] <PReDiToR> ~/.bashrc
[6:21] <piney> not yet. saw a few others, but nothing with the support znc has.
[6:21] <piney> thats why irssi sounds promising
[6:21] <piney> to me anyway
[6:21] <SpeedEvil> have any newer ones fixed the USB issues with keyboards that lead to them dropping out for a few seconds Atty a tone
[6:21] <SpeedEvil> at a time
[6:22] <columbo> Twist-: I don't usually lurk, I pretty much live on the hilight window and just catch up periodically on posted links or keyword matches
[6:23] <sku11knight> hey guys, how would i use autostart in the .config of my pi to run two bash files simultaneously?
[6:27] <columbo> sku11knight: what are you trying to do?
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[6:27] <sku11knight> start two different coffee script servers on startup
[6:27] <columbo> you mean nodejs servers?
[6:27] <rikkib> Set $PATH in users home /home/pi/.profile as an example
[6:28] <sku11knight> yeah sorry, been a long day = P. I wrote two start.sh files for each directory
[6:28] <rikkib> knoppies,
[6:28] <sku11knight> so if i can just run them simultaneously my problems are solved
[6:28] <sku11knight> I'm just having trouble with the syntax of the .desktop files
[6:28] <sku11knight> file*(
[6:29] <sku11knight> rikkib : was that directed at me?
[6:29] <Viper-7> sku11knight: why not make real init scripts for them?
[6:30] <rikkib> No knoppies
[6:30] <rikkib> He ask where to set $PATH
[6:30] <sku11knight> viper-7 : i feel like mine are real init scripts, but i'm guessing it's relative. what's your definition of an init script?
[6:31] <Viper-7> a clone of /etc/init.d/skeleton
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[6:31] <rikkib> add is to .profile PATH="New/path:$PATH"
[6:31] <Viper-7> given a name, updated with your service details, then attached with update-rc.d
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[6:32] <rikkib> close console and open it again for new setting to take effect
[6:33] <Viper-7> SpeedEvil: i think everyone just switches to otg and forgets about it
[6:34] <knoppies> thanks rikkib
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[6:35] <columbo> looks like newark is $44.75 shipped for the ModelB
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[6:35] <rikkib> knoppies, You can also set system wide in /etc/profile
[6:35] <sku11knight> sorry Viper-7 I dced
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[6:35] <Viper-7> a clone of /etc/init.d/skeleton
[6:35] <Viper-7> given a name, updated with your service details, then attached with update-rc.d
[6:36] <columbo> hmmm possibly backordered, amazon would be a couple of dollars more but would ship immediately
[6:36] <sku11knight> i was unaware of the existance of the init.d stuff as I am still fairly nooby.
[6:37] <Viper-7> sku11knight: the skeleton file and the update-rc.d tool are debian-ey things, but the rest is standard linux
[6:40] <Viper-7> you have scripts in /etc/init.d to start & stop your services, then symlinks from those scripts to the /etc/rc?.d/ folders. the files in those /etc/rc?.d folders are executed when changing to that runlevel
[6:41] <Viper-7> you also give each script a two digit number when putting it into the rc.d system, this sets the order the scripts start in
[6:41] <Viper-7> for most stuff you add to your server, you`ll want to stick to 99
[6:41] <Viper-7> cp /etc/init.d/skeleton /etc/init.d/myservice
[6:41] <Viper-7> vi /etc/init.d/myservice
[6:42] <Viper-7> update-rc.d myservice defaults 99
[6:42] <Viper-7> kdone :)
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[6:43] <sku11knight> Viper-7 understood! Thanks buddy :D
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[6:52] <SpeedEvil> Viper-7: switches to otg?
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[6:53] <Viper-7> SpeedEvil: its a work-around
[6:53] <Viper-7> limits you to usb 1.1 but fixes most issues
[6:54] <SpeedEvil> ah
[6:55] * SpeedEvil wonders if a hub with a transaction translator would help or hinder
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[6:56] <Viper-7> dwc_otg.speed=1
[6:56] <Viper-7> end of cmdline.txt
[6:56] <Viper-7> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#R-Pi_does_not_respond_to_key_presses_.2F_Keyboard_randomly_repeats_key_presses
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[6:56] <SpeedEvil> thanks
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[6:58] <Viper-7> SpeedEvil: using a hub btw?
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[7:00] <Bhaal> Anyone run an rpi off a cigarette lighter USB power socket?
[7:00] <SpeedEvil> not at the moment
[7:01] <Bhaal> Are the regulators in them stable enough for the rpis?
[7:01] <SpeedEvil> Bhaal: yes.
[7:01] <SpeedEvil> for good ones
[7:01] <Bhaal> SpeedEvil: How do you define "good" ? :)
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[7:02] <SpeedEvil> ones that accurately regulate their output
[7:03] <piney> i would define good there as properly engineered. which is practically impossible to tell from the outside
[7:03] <SpeedEvil> quite
[7:05] <Bhaal> Which is why I wonder which to buy, though its not for car usage...
[7:05] <Bhaal> running off solar charged SLAs .. well off the charger regulator unit I should say...
[7:07] <Viper-7> http://www.goodluckbuy.com/dc-335-to-1-2530v-auto-buck-boost-converter-voltage-regulator-for-solar-power-panel.html
[7:07] <Viper-7> shame there isnt a 5V fixed output version on the cheap sites
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[7:09] <Bhaal> Viper-7: Hmmm
[7:09] <Viper-7> still planning to permanently attach one to my pi
[7:09] <Viper-7> what voltage/current does it take?
[7:09] <Viper-7> power.
[7:10] <Viper-7> whatever form you got it in :P
[7:10] <Bhaal> Viper-7: Nice idea I guess if you don't have to twiddle knobs depending what you are plugging it into?
[7:10] <Viper-7> correct
[7:11] * Bhaal looks at the link again
[7:12] <Bhaal> I would probably need a few...
[7:13] <Viper-7> well whats your source range?
[7:13] <Viper-7> if you can stick to only buck or only boost, or just need a higher current limit, there are other options
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[7:15] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/stm32-rpi.jpg Image of the dc-dc converter setup I use.
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[7:17] <Viper-7> Bhaal: http://dx.com/p/m1201-dc-3-40v-to-1-25-35v-adjustable-step-down-converter-voltage-regulator-blue-177634
[7:17] <Viper-7> if you have >= 6.5V
[7:18] <Bhaal> Will be 12V
[7:18] <Viper-7> if you have >= 8V http://dx.com/p/dc-4-5-30-to-1-25-26v-auto-step-down-converter-voltage-regulator-164313
[7:19] <Viper-7> rikkib: heh
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[7:20] <Bhaal> Viper-7: connected to this: http://dx.com/p/usb-dc-1-5v-to-dc-5v-voltage-step-up-boost-module-green-143571?rt=1&p=2&m=2&r=3&k=1&t=1&s=177634&u=143571
[7:20] <rikkib> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-PCS-LLOT-LM2596-DC-DC-Converter-Power-Supply-Buck-Step-Down-Module-4-40V-to/526499533.html
[7:20] <Viper-7> Bhaal: max current 500mA
[7:21] <Viper-7> Bhaal: meaning it will only run a pi that doesnt use HDMI or the GPU, and doesnt load up the USB too much
[7:21] <Bhaal> Viper-7: Hmm,m didn't read that bit, but yeah, small problem :S
[7:21] <Viper-7> http://dx.com/p/fr160b-pcb-2-layer-usb-portable-power-module-green-3-5-x-2-6-x-1-5cm-146989
[7:21] <Viper-7> Input: 5V/800mA; Output: 5V/1A
[7:21] <Viper-7> it makes power!
[7:21] <Bhaal> Nothing a bit of cable hacking can't fix...
[7:21] <Bhaal> haha
[7:22] <Viper-7> it`d work
[7:22] <Bhaal> I would end up hacking of some sort anyway, as this scenario would probably see the rpis running from passive POE ...
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[7:23] <Viper-7> when the source supply sags below 5V because of the high current load, that device would boost the voltage back up - its just that would result in even higher current draw, and...
[7:23] <Viper-7> sounds like a downward spiral to me
[7:23] <Viper-7> heh yeah, POE for the pi would be nice
[7:24] <Bhaal> I'll just use splitters at either end, not a big deal...
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[7:24] <mike_t> Viper-7, PoE splitter ?
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[7:29] <Viper-7> ?
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[7:41] <mike_t> Viper-7, for example http://www.dlink.com/us/en/support/product/dwl-p50-power-over-ethernet-splitter
[7:44] <Viper-7> mike_t: yeah?
[7:45] <Viper-7> doesnt really compare to having support for it onboard
[7:46] <mike_t> yes, on board it will be good
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[8:25] <NullMoogleCable> ok ive been drinking QUITE A BIG
[8:25] <NullMoogleCable> bit
[8:25] <NullMoogleCable> i have a 16gig sd card and a pi
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[8:26] <NullMoogleCable> lets do this
[8:26] <clonak> pi'ing drunk ?
[8:27] <clonak> that doesnt sound too good...
[8:27] <neirpyc> better than doing most other things drunk, haha
[8:27] <neirpyc> can't hurt yourself too much with a pi
[8:28] <clonak> I wasnt worried about him hurting him self, Im more worried about the pi.... :P
[8:28] <neirpyc> haha
[8:29] <Pumtrix> haha
[8:29] <Pumtrix> that poor pi =[
[8:29] <clonak> I learnt not to go near a computer after I woke up one day with a horrible hang over and my laptop had been thrown off the deck....
[8:29] <clonak> *near a computer while drunk
[8:30] <neirpyc> oh geez
[8:33] <neirpyc> i should really run out to get a new pan cable but i can't really be bothered to leave the space heaters area
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[8:35] <neirpyc> lan cable**
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[8:35] <knoppies> has anyone here noticed a huge difference between using a class 4 SD card vs a class 10 one. Im not talking about file transfer speeds Im more interested in the everyday kinda stuff.
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[8:37] <NullMoogleCable> ko im got the sd card in my laptipo
[8:37] <NullMoogleCable> berry boot?
[8:37] <neirpyc> i've heard good things
[8:37] <neirpyc> haven't really messed around with it since i just use my pi for a media center
[8:38] <neirpyc> and the wife gets mad when i break stuff, haha
[8:38] <SwK> clonak: dont feel bad??? i took out a server like that??? screwed up the file system so bad, took 2 days to recover everything (the tape backups were all bad dont get me started)
[8:38] <neirpyc> so i ordered another for hacking away at
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[8:38] <knoppies> neirpyc, you could just use a different SD card. just remember to put the mediacenter SD card back in BEFORE she tries to use it.
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[8:39] <NullMoogleCable> well my plan is I got my pro jector with 800x600
[8:39] <NullMoogleCable> and ntsc
[8:39] <NullMoogleCable> its oldyes
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[9:45] <gordonDrogon> morning...
[9:46] <neirpyc> hey hey
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[9:49] <jfmherokiller1> has anyone tried to replace the init proccess?
[9:49] <jfmherokiller1> with anouther like upstart?
[9:50] <jfmherokiller1> i keep thinking of doing it but im scared since i have no way to make a backup
[9:51] <ShiftPlusOne> There's nothing special about replacing the init proccess, but ofcourse you should have a backup even if you don't mess with the core components
[9:52] <rikkib> Bed time
[9:53] <ShiftPlusOne> 'night
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[10:21] <_21h_> gordonDrogon: i tried my own source code. it working now :)))
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[10:24] <Chetic> I'm connected to this: http://axiomtest.com/image/cache/data/keithley-2612a-1-500x500.jpg and want to use it as a power source
[10:24] <Chetic> the connections on the back are described as Guard, Sense, HI and LO
[10:24] <jelly1> find the manual? :p
[10:24] <Chetic> I don't understand what guard sense, hi and lo means
[10:24] <Chetic> the manual assumes you do
[10:25] <mgottschlag> Sense is usually a voltage sensing wire for the regulator
[10:25] <Chetic> is hi and lo usually the same as + and -?
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[10:25] <mgottschlag> probably, because guard doesn't sound like +/-
[10:26] <Chetic> guard can't be ground, right?
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[10:26] <mgottschlag> maybe paste a link to the manual here
[10:27] <Chetic> http://www.keithley.com/products/dcac/currentvoltage/gpmp/?path=2612A
[10:27] <mgottschlag> http://www.keithley.de/data?asset=57009
[10:27] <mgottschlag> there are some examples in there
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[10:29] <gordonDrogon> _21h_, good oh!
[10:29] <BCMM> Chetic: is this some sort of test, or is there more equipment involved? otherwise that's massive overkill for running a pi
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[10:30] <Chetic> I'm testing a different embedded system for work
[10:30] <Chetic> sorry to ask here but google wasn't helping at all
[10:30] <BCMM> Chetic: yes HI and LO are basically + and -, diagram essentially says so
[10:30] <Chetic> which diagram?
[10:30] <mgottschlag> Chetic: also, there should be two sense wires, and the manual isn't accessible without registration
[10:30] <mgottschlag> and I am off
[10:30] <BCMM> Chetic: they'd be labelled 5V and 0V if they weren't adjustable
[10:31] <mgottschlag> Chetic: look at the link I posted
[10:31] <Chetic> aha!
[10:31] <Chetic> making sense now
[10:31] <BCMM> Chetic: the sense sockets appear to be for measuring voltage at an arbitrary point in the circuit - you may not need to use them
[10:32] <BCMM> Chetic: what is your objective here? provide 5V and measure how much current the system draws?
[10:33] <Chetic> send a 50v 80ms pulse
[10:33] <Chetic> to an input
[10:34] <Chetic> it's a general i/o unit used on trains
[10:34] <BCMM> Chetic: where does the pi come in?
[10:35] <_21h_> gordonDrogon: you used resistor to pull down data pin to ground?
[10:35] <Chetic> like I said, no pi :p
[10:35] <_21h_> gordonDrogon: how long your wires between ds1302 and rpi?
[10:36] <BCMM> Chetic: might have been before i joined
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[10:36] <BCMM> Chetic: if you don't need Pi-specific knowledge, it's possible that ##electronics will be of more help
[10:37] <Chetic> sweet! thanks for the tip
[10:37] <BCMM> Chetic: (again, i wasn't here when you asked your initial question, i think, but if you were just asking here because it has low level hardware guys around, ##electronics might be the place to go)
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[10:48] <Viper-7> http://www.ti.com/product/p82b715
[10:48] <Viper-7> gotta remember that one next time someones trying to level shift I2C
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[10:49] <gordonDrogon> _21h_, no I just connected my module directly to the Pi. Wires were about 10cm.
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[10:52] <gordonDrogon> Chetic, EN50155 ha!
[10:53] <_21h_> gordonDrogon: my wires 20 cm. I think at a high speed there was a parasitic capacity
[10:53] <_21h_> 750 Om resistor helped
[10:53] <gordonDrogon> _21h_, just slow down the clock.
[10:55] <_21h_> gordonDrogon: it isn't necessary. the resistor is already installed. let works at the maximum speed
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[11:19] <jelly1> hmm anyone ever seen
[11:19] <jelly1> /usr/lib/gcc/armv6l-unknown-linux-gnueabihf/4.7.2/../../../../include/c++/4.7.2/ext/atomicity.h:48:12: error: cannot compile this
[11:19] <jelly1> atomic library call yet
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[11:26] <linuxstb> jelly1: No, but I think atomic stuff for ARM is new in gcc 4.7, so perhaps it's still a bit problematic.
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[12:17] <Tachyon`> fusion reactor
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[12:24] * Tachyon` has had to point it out a few times to creationists
[12:25] <Tachyon`> (who sometimes think the second law of thermodynamics disproves evolution)
[12:26] <ShiftPlusOne> Tachyon`, what's the point? They usually don't have an interest in science.
[12:26] <ShiftPlusOne> actually they are straight up anti-science
[12:26] <ShiftPlusOne> But that's probably not a topic for this channel.
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[12:28] <Tachyon`> no, I suppose not, but they invoke science when it suits them
[12:29] <Tachyon`> particularly the second law (but they always miss out the bit about closed systems)
[12:30] <Tachyon`> speaking of which I was amused to see a particular answer from the built in voice assistant in my samsung phone, perhaps you'll recognise the reference
[12:31] <Tachyon`> http://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/485147_10152544478925507_1048505779_n.jpg
[12:31] <ShiftPlusOne> heh, no I don't get the reference.
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[12:33] <Tachyon`> it's a reference to a short story by Isaac Asimov (The last question)
[12:34] <ShiftPlusOne> Ah, haven't read any Asimov yet.
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[12:39] <Viper-7> Tachyon`: you`re trying to tackle religion with a logical reasoned argument? sounds like you`re less sane than they are :P
[12:40] <Tachyon`> yes well, if they bring up the second law of thermodynamics, I get to beat them around the head with it -.o
[12:40] <Tachyon`> but I agree it's usually futile
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[12:45] <ladoga> and how they use that when trying to disprove evolution?
[12:45] <ladoga> must be quite pathetic attempt
[12:45] <ShiftPlusOne> ladoga, in a nutshell, they say that you can't get order out of chaos
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[12:46] <ladoga> but 2nd law doesnt say that...basically things just work towards lower energy state
[12:46] <ShiftPlusOne> shh
[12:47] <ladoga> sun gives lots of energy for evolution to play with:)
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[12:48] <ShiftPlusOne> along the lines of "the second law of thermodynamics states that systems become less organised over time. In the bible it says that God created the world perfectly. According to evolution, you get something from a primordial soup, which violates the second law of thermodynamics." and so on
[12:48] <ShiftPlusOne> paraphrasing here, but that's the argument they use as I understand it
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[12:49] <Viper-7> according to evolution, we came from a primordial soup, which was complex with complex interactions going on
[12:49] <ladoga> yeah gross oversimplification
[12:50] <Viper-7> which itself was born of simpler elements coming together and building entropy
[12:50] <ShiftPlusOne> I don't think there is any point arguing against that here
[12:50] <Viper-7> if anything that argument helps prove evolution heh
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[12:51] <Viper-7> and fights religion, the whole point is `chaos breeds chaos`, if god and everything he creates is perfect, where did the spark of chaos come from? :P
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[12:52] <mjr> The best formulation is "One of the most basic laws in the universe is the Second Law of Thermodynamics. This states that as time goes by, entropy in an environment will increase. Evolution argues differently against a law that is accepted EVERYWHERE BY EVERYONE. Evolution says that we started out simple, and over time became more complex. That just isn???t possible: UNLESS there is a giant outside source of energy supplying the Earth with hu ...
[12:52] <mjr> ... e amounts of energy. If there were such a source, scientists would certainly know about it."
[12:52] <mjr> huge
[12:52] <egrouse> aka the sun?
[12:52] <mjr> indeed
[12:53] <ladoga> sure when sun has died then things get more stable
[12:53] <ShiftPlusOne> http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-thermodynamics.html
[12:54] <Viper7> Err
[12:54] <Viper7> Thats just basic english fail
[12:54] <egrouse> i think reading this page is making my brain bleed
[12:54] <Viper7> More entropy = more chaos = more complexity
[12:55] <Viper7> The law agrees with evolution, it doesnt fight it
[12:55] <ladoga> high entropy = stabler state, no?
[12:55] <Viper-7> no
[12:56] <Viper-7> high entropy = high uncertainty, a greater amount of chaos
[12:57] <ladoga> greater amount of possible arrangements of atoms
[12:57] <ladoga> thats how i see it
[12:58] <Viper-7> in thermodynamics entropy relates greatly to things like heat loss, where natural chaotic distribution tends to mean forces will on average cancel each other out, wasting energy away
[12:58] <ladoga> ah. i guess i'll have to read on it :)
[12:59] <Viper-7> in information science, an entropy source is a source of chaos, of random values, to use for encryption seeds and such
[12:59] <ShiftPlusOne> For the purpose of this channel, I'd draw a distinction between belief in God (which is not a problem and everyone is welcome here) and anti-scientific creationism. Discuss the science, but avoid making this about religion.
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[12:59] <Viper-7> the better the entropy source, the more random the values, aka the harder they are to predict
[13:00] <ladoga> yes more possible values
[13:00] <Viper-7> ShiftPlusOne: in such distinctions, i find it hard to draw the line between scientific theory and fact :P
[13:00] <ladoga> while low entropy is where everything is in certain order
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[13:02] <Viper-7> so the only thing we proved today, is that people who believe in god dont understand english
[13:02] <Viper-7> hows that for distinctions? :P
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[13:03] <ladoga> what about mass that collapses due to its cumulative gravity
[13:03] <ladoga> lets say in isolated system
[13:05] <ladoga> heavier elements would go near center
[13:06] <ladoga> whatever im tired:) forgot what i was thinking
[13:06] <ladoga> back to work:)
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[13:11] <keen_com> hi rpi room!
[13:11] <ShiftPlusOne> 'morning
[13:12] <ShiftPlusOne> or '<relevant period of the day for your timezone>
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[13:16] <neirpyc> about to go to sleep in this timezone
[13:16] <neirpyc> haha
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[13:17] <ShiftPlusOne> 'night
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[13:47] <Bhaal> Tachyon`: Got those 4GB SanDisk class 4 sd cards... They do actually seem a touch faster
[13:47] <Bhaal> Now to see if they are more reliable...
[13:48] <Tachyon`> I had another kinston fail yesterday morning, heh
[13:48] * gerrynjr has had a Pi hosted by EDIS.at for a few months now... aside from one crash, it's been stable as hell
[13:48] <Tachyon`> no longer accept writes, just stuck with the data that's on it
[13:48] <gerrynjr> very impressed
[13:48] <Tachyon`> aye, very low power too
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[13:48] <gerrynjr> Tachyon`: it is on pretty much 24/7
[13:49] <gerrynjr> and it's how I'm running this IRC session
[13:49] <Bhaal> If I am using a rpi for something there is a good chance it will run until something burns out...
[13:49] <gerrynjr> but yeah.... 32GB usb stick and 32GB SD
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[13:50] <Bhaal> Any harm in using DD to create an image of a running rpi?
[13:50] <gerrynjr> Tachyon`: ended up ordering another one from Adafruit... makes 4 total
[13:50] <Bhaal> Will it be restoreable?
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[14:10] <dwatkins> files may change between starting and finishing the dd, Bhaal - probably not reliable
[14:15] <Bhaal> dwatkins: It just has to be a rough image, as long as it boots, the rpi is not mission critical, I just hate having to rebuild from scratch when the SD dies... done it twice, first time there was massive FS corruption, 2nd time the card almost completely died, was able to get my sqlite database off... Tis just weather station data...
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[14:18] <dwatkins> Bhaal: interesting, I'm using munin and a USB temperature sensor on mine, but for backing up I would definitely shut down and put the SD card in another machine, just to be sure the filesystem is written-to properly, as this is exactly what can result in filesystem corruption.
[14:18] <dwatkins> having said that, whenever I've just removed power from my Pi, it's recovered very well after a quick filesystem check
[14:18] <Bhaal> dwatkins: Well yeah, this was a Kingston sd card...
[14:19] <Bhaal> I am now running this one with a SanDisk card...
[14:19] <dwatkins> Bhaal: remember that Kingston has a lifetime warranty ;)
[14:19] <dwatkins> if it's still the case for their SD cards, you should be able to send a failed card back no matter how old it is, I believe
[14:20] <Bhaal> I expect they will say "ANd it had a very short life... sorry"
[14:20] <Bhaal> dwatkins: It will cost more in money/time then the $20 I paid for the card in the first place :S
[14:20] <dwatkins> http://www.kingston.com/en/company/warranty Bhaal
[14:20] <dwatkins> ah ok :)
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[14:21] <Bhaal> dwatkins: But thanks for checking for me all the same, tis appreciated
[14:22] <dwatkins> welcome
[14:22] <dwatkins> I type too fast when I've had coffee, so it's useful to have things to do
[14:22] <Bhaal> hahahahha
[14:22] <Bhaal> So would people say SanDisk is better then Samsung?
[14:22] <Bhaal> for SD cards?
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[14:23] <Bhaal> I bought 4 of the SanDisk cards.. $5 for 4GB cards, didn't feel like doing the drive again for the sake of $5
[14:23] <dwatkins> I've had no problems with SanDisk cards.
[14:23] <Bhaal> Just in case I do have a failure
[14:24] <Bhaal> Cool, well I don't expect these units to ever swap, and disk writes are minimalish...
[14:24] <Bhaal> a spattering of data every 5mins for one and just a tiny bit of syslog for another...
[14:24] <dwatkins> atime disabled too, Bhaal?
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[14:24] <Bhaal> dwatkins: I expect so, raspbian had it disabled last time I checked
[14:25] <dwatkins> cool
[14:25] <Bhaal> yeah, noatime
[14:25] <Bhaal> Erm, which is what I meant by 'disabled'
[14:25] <dwatkins> indeed
[14:25] <dwatkins> mount option, I recognise it
[14:26] <Bhaal> :)
[14:27] <Bhaal> Now hopefully the bluetooth dongles I ordered arrive tomorrow... The one I am using still seems to time out and crashes the USB bus every few hours...
[14:28] <Bhaal> Its chipset is listed as 'verified' .. but yeah, who knows... So ordered a couple of the more expensive ones (although they are 2nd hand so I got them at a good price) off ebay.... With any luck they will fix the problem..
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[14:28] <Bhaal> Then I can go back to using 1 rpi for the 2 data collection stats
[14:28] <Bhaal> err jobs
[14:29] <dwatkins> might be worth trying an external/powered hub
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[14:29] <dwatkins> not sure it would necessarily show anything different, but it might help rule things out
[14:29] <Bhaal> Tried many combinations
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[14:30] <Bhaal> Even another dongle which I have which also has a 'verified' chipset, although it had trouble even being detected so I think it was a fake...
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[14:31] <Bhaal> But I have 1 particular hub which I need to keep plugged in as it miraculously has per port power switching... Which I need so I can automagically reset the WS1080 weather station when its USB bus dies (not the rpi's fautl)
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[14:38] <Bhaal> sleep time
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[15:01] <pappkamerad> yesterday I wrote in here that my rpi's usb and ethernet didn't work and I prepared to send it back. Today I tried it again and it works perfectly now with exactly the same hardware plugged in. Does anybody have an explanation for that ?
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[15:05] <pappkamerad> Could it be that the fuse I read about somewhere reset by then ?
[15:06] <Twist-> Clearly, it's http://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~ballard/bofh/bofhserver.pl
[15:07] <pappkamerad> yeah definelty doppler effect
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[15:09] <pappkamerad> *MAGIC*
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[15:09] <Twist-> (If I had a useful answer, I'd give you one.. since I don't, poor humor is all I can offer. )
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[15:10] <pappkamerad> also I kinda find it strange to have a selfresetting fuse
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[15:10] <Viper-7> pappkamerad: did the fuse pop at any stage? or do you have any reason to think it might have been stressed?
[15:10] <Twist-> Yeah.. I just discovered those for myself. Also, backpower on usb hubs was a new concept.
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[15:11] <Viper-7> pappkamerad: resistance of the fuse goes very high when it gets too hot - it can take 24-48 hours to fully "set" again and get back down to a low resistance
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[15:11] <Viper-7> so even if it just got too warm, it might have increased resistance enough to cause voltage issues to the usb/lan chip, sure
[15:12] <Twist-> So the takeaway here is that I shouldn't rest my soldering iron on that chip while I'm testing. Check.
[15:13] <pappkamerad> I don't know if the fuse popped. But I plugged lots of stuff into the rpi and then the keyboard stopped working
[15:14] <Viper-7> heh
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[15:14] <IT_Sean> pappkamerad: if you are using anything other than a basic keyboard & mouse, you will need a powered USB hub
[15:15] <Viper-7> look next to the usb ports, in the corner with the status lights, do you have two red/green rectangular parts labelled F1 and F2 ?
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[15:15] <Viper-7> those are 140mA polyfuses, individual for each USB port
[15:15] <Viper-7> newer raspberry pis dont include them
[15:15] <Viper-7> because they pretty much just cause problems
[15:17] <IT_Sean> If you are handy with a soldering iron, you can remove them from a Pi that does have them, and bypass them.
[15:18] <pappkamerad> I won't touch anything now that It works again
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[15:26] <gordonDrogon> polyfuses reset in seconds or less.
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[15:31] <Viper-7> If polyfuses have triggered, ("blown") their resistance can increase so much (for days) that even 4.5 volt isn't reached, and the keyboard only gets say 3.5 Volt, and it will fail, start repeating keys etc.
[15:32] <Viper-7> cooling them down also doesn't do any permanent good, its not how cool the polyfuses are that helps them recover, as its a chemical process, not a mechanical process. letting them have a rest in a cool place might help a "bad" polyfuse recover, but if they get hot again, the effect is undone again.
[15:32] <Viper-7> from http://elinux.org/Polyfuses_explained :P
[15:32] <Viper-7> ive heard reports of changes > 16 hours after blowing the fuse, things suddenly start working again
[15:33] <Viper-7> and seems we just heard another
[15:33] <gordonDrogon> I've personal experience of it being seconds on my Pi's.
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[15:33] <IT_Sean> We've seen reports of both in #raspberrypi. Sometimes they reset quickly, other times it takes a while...
[15:34] <Viper-7> it takes seconds to drop dramatically down in resistance
[15:34] <Viper-7> but days to approach 0 again
[15:36] <Viper-7> Figure 6 shows typical behavior of a PolySwitch device that is
[15:36] <Viper-7> tripped and then allowed to cool. This figure illustrates how, even
[15:36] <Viper-7> after a number of hours, the device resistance is still greater than
[15:36] <Viper-7> the initial resistance. Over an extended period of time, device
[15:36] <Viper-7> resistance will continue to fall and will eventually approach initial
[15:36] <Viper-7> resistance.
[15:36] <Viper-7> However, since this time can be days, months, or years, it is not
[15:36] <Viper-7> practical to expect that the device resistance will reach the
[15:37] <Viper-7> from the part datasheet :D
[15:37] <Viper-7> original value for operation purposes.
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[15:45] * djazz is listening to a spotify playlist on his pi d(^_^)b
[15:45] <djazz> i made a script: https://gist.github.com/daniel-j/5044334
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[15:47] <Coffe> will check
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[15:47] <Coffe> you are using the new webplayer intercafe to play ?
[15:48] <pappkamerad> why didn't they make it possible to reset the fuse with a simple jumper
[15:48] <djazz> Coffe: yes
[15:48] <pappkamerad> like you reset a motherboard
[15:48] <Coffe> djazz: nice.. can you integrate with xbmc also ? but webplayer supports normal logins
[15:49] <Twist-> pappkamerad: Doesn't matter now, eh? They identified the fuses as a design error and removed them.
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[15:49] <Coffe> djazz: what deps do it have ?
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[15:50] <djazz> Coffe: nodejs only, i guess
[15:50] <djazz> and then you must install the node modules
[15:51] <djazz> I'll make some install instructions
[15:51] <pappkamerad> Twist-, all of them? when did they do that?
[15:51] <djazz> Coffe: if you want to use libspotify instead (with install instructions for the pi): http://pastebin.com/dntPx5he
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[15:51] <ivotkl> Hello everyone.
[15:51] <djazz> hi
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[15:52] <Coffe> djazz: that req paying , but i will test the other one and see if i can get it to use normal login
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[15:52] <djazz> Coffe: ok :)
[15:52] <ivotkl> I would like to know if there is a version of Debian for Pi that could be downloaded from Debian's website. I see one that says armel, but I'm not sure if it's the right one. (I am awared already of raspbian)
[15:52] <djazz> yea libspotify is premium only
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[15:54] <Coffe> djazz: would be nice to integrate that with pulse audio and upnp .
[15:54] <Coffe> as i today stream from my laptop with upnp to my xbmc
[15:54] <djazz> aha
[15:54] <ivotkl> Anyone?
[15:54] <djazz> well, if you have pulseaudio it shows up in the list of programs
[15:54] <ShiftPlusOne> ivotkl, if you want to fiddle with the firmware, kernel and modules, yeah you can use debian armel (but not armhf)
[15:54] <djazz> i guess?
[15:55] <Coffe> but could i send from my pi,.. i could have other pi's play the stream
[15:55] <ivotkl> ShiftPlusOne, thank you
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[15:55] <ShiftPlusOne> ivotkl, but you can download debian prepared for the pi already from the download page on raspberrypi.org (not raspbian)
[15:55] <djazz> Coffe: i bet xbmc have icecast reciever?
[15:55] <djazz> lol
[15:55] <Coffe> djazz: i like upnp as i controll them most things @ home with it .. so that would for me be the best
[15:56] <djazz> aha
[15:56] <ivotkl> ShiftPlusOne, I've seen distros for raspy pi on their website. It's just that they recommend raspbian for beginners and I have not received my Pi yet. So I will start with that one, even though I am not a beginner with linux (but definitely not an expert either).
[15:57] <ShiftPlusOne> ivotkl, they recommend raspbian, but plain debian is also available for download from their site... along with arch and a few other.
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[15:58] <Coffe> djazz: with a nice controller api to it .. then one can have lots of fun :)
[15:58] <djazz> Coffe: yeah. im thinking of a php/js/websocket UI
[15:59] <djazz> or irc commands
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[15:59] <Coffe> guess php would be simpler then to create a app to controll it
[16:00] <ivotkl> ShiftPlusOne, so, should I download this file from Debian's site? -> debian-6.0.7-armel-netinst.iso
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[16:01] <ShiftPlusOne> ivotkl, no, if you have to ask, you might have some trouble getting it installed. You'll need a rootfs, though you may be able to extract what you need fromt he netinstall image since afaik it uses a ramdisk... but you're gonna have a bad time.
[16:02] <lastebil> ivotkl: this may answer which one you want to start with: which window manager are you planning to use?
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[16:04] <gordonDrogon> ivotkl, in-case no-ones mentioned it, Raspbian *is* Debian, but compiled specifically for the Pi..
[16:04] <lastebil> if none: arch or "minimalized" raspbian; if tiling, arch; if lxde; raspbian.
[16:05] <ShiftPlusOne> ivotkl, may I ask why you think you need debian rather than raspbian?
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[16:12] <djazz> Coffe: added installation instructions: https://gist.github.com/daniel-j/5044334
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[16:24] <IT_Sean> gerrynjr: nope.
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[16:26] <gerrynjr> IT_Sean: as a low cost computing for everyone device it's great
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[16:26] <gerrynjr> guess the pandaboard ES is the alternative
[16:26] <gerrynjr> quad core/graphics but at $189, not cheap
[16:26] <gerrynjr> fast, cheap, well made, pick two, I guess
[16:27] <Viper-7> gerrynjr: shrug
[16:27] <Viper-7> https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/A13/A13-OLinuXino-MICRO/
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[16:27] <Viper-7> better for cheap computing
[16:27] <IT_Sean> gerrynjr: the whole point of the raspi is to make it as inexpensive as possible. Changing the SoC would mean an entire redesign of the board and quite a lot of expense. 's not gonna happen.
[16:27] <Viper-7> VGA displays are much easier to find
[16:28] <gerrynjr> Viper-7: interesting
[16:28] <Viper-7> https://www.olimex.com/Products/OLinuXino/iMX233/iMX233-OLinuXino-MICRO/
[16:28] <Viper-7> even cheaper if you`re really tight
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[16:29] <Viper-7> i see the raspberry pi being more about the community, like arduino. and its getting there, albiet a little slower than it should
[16:29] <gerrynjr> I own a few, great devices for the price
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[16:29] <gerrynjr> good IO too
[16:30] <gerrynjr> just that having the ethernet on USB makes having a USB storage a bit of a downside
[16:30] <gerrynjr> more recent kernels have made som serious progress
[16:30] <ivotkl> gordonDrogon, I know. I just wanted to check how would pi manage a debian official distro.
[16:30] <gerrynjr> (when things started out I was getting panics when using both devices)
[16:31] <b0ot> Anyone get the EW-7811Un working with a Pi to extend the local lan wirelessly?
[16:31] <ivotkl> lastebil, I would like a friendly WM that does not involve too much processing for the Pi. I mean, a lighter one but also good one. Which ones are available for Pi?
[16:31] <ivotkl> ShiftPlusOne, Don't know. =P
[16:32] <FR^2> I want more ram :P
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[16:33] <gerrynjr> 512 is much better... had a 256 prior...
[16:33] <keen_commander> hi room!
[16:33] <FR^2> gerrynjr: indeed :)
[16:34] <FR^2> OLinuXino sounds interesting, but 256megs is too few
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[16:39] <b0ot> Could the Pi run Ubuntu through a VM?
[16:39] <ivotkl> That's a very good question. =P
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[16:41] <ShiftPlusOne> 'course it could
[16:41] <ivotkl> I think that if Pi supports VM client (I don't know how to call it and I have no experience on Virtual Machines) you should be fine. However, new Ubuntu versions use heavier windows managers. So...
[16:41] <ShiftPlusOne> not well
[16:41] <ShiftPlusOne> but it will run
[16:42] <ShiftPlusOne> You can run windows or whatever else you want through qemu, but there's a difference between running and actually being usable.
[16:42] <ivotkl> IMHO, hardware will not fit, in th way that it might be a bit slow.
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[16:42] <ivotkl> ShiftPlusOne, lol
[16:42] <ivotkl> ShiftPlusOne, loved the answer. =P
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[16:48] <Emmycakes> I need to find parts for my rapi board here in sweden =\
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[16:52] <ivotkl> Emmycakes, have you searched if Farnell's site has a local store?
[16:52] <ivotkl> https://www.microkit.se/
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[16:52] <alexwilkes> big up the raw core
[16:52] <ivotkl> Here. According to Farnell, those people at microkit are authorised resellers in Sweden. =)
[16:53] <ivotkl> Emmycakes, https://www.microkit.se/
[16:54] <Emmycakes> yikes, that's in the middle of nowhere o_o
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[16:56] <Emmycakes> hmm, actually I think I know what I'm going to do
[16:57] <Emmycakes> I'll hopefully be hanging around here more, I want to run a VPN on my rapi w/ maybe extra fancy stuffs
[16:57] <Emmycakes> is there a memory cap on the SD card I should be aware of?
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[16:58] <ShiftPlusOne> I have seen 64GB cards, don't know if they get larger than that. Either way, you shouldn't store that much data on an sdcard since it can corrupt any time anyway.
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[16:58] <DDave> Emmycakes, just stick an usb stick in :)
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[17:00] <Emmycakes> hmmm
[17:00] <Emmycakes> I need to at least get the OS stuff sorted
[17:00] <Emmycakes> I bought by board a while back, (Model B) but didn't get around to doing anything with it
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[17:02] <gordonDrogon> Emmycakes, you only need 2GB to run a minimal system.
[17:02] <DDave> isnt it better to run "log files" etc (basically files that get written very often) on an usb stick instead of the sd card?
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[17:03] <gordonDrogon> it's not that important.
[17:03] <gordonDrogon> anyway, just turn logging off unless you actually read the log-files.
[17:04] <DDave> wisest sentence ive heard in a long time :D
[17:04] <ivotkl> Have to go, see you guys. It's been a pleasure as always.
[17:04] <Emmycakes> ciao
[17:05] <ivotkl> Emmycakes, I am planning myself to buy a 16 GB class 10 SD Card for the OS, maybe 8 GB instead. And then for storing I might be using an external USB HDD.
[17:05] <ivotkl> Now I'm leaving.
[17:06] <ivotkl> You can find me on ubuntuforums and linuxforums under this same nickname. =)
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[17:06] <Emmycakes> I have 5Tb of networked storage the rapi can use
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[17:07] <gordonDrogon> networks are good - no need to bother with large local SD cards...
[17:07] <gordonDrogon> and watch out for those class 10s - no real advantage to them and there are still issues with some of them iirc...
[17:07] <ivotkl> Have to go, see you guys. It's been a pleasure as always. You can find me on ubuntuforums, raspberrypi and linuxforums under this same nickname. =)
[17:08] <DDave> I would be interested in knowing if the rpi can even read/write that fast to the SD card to really use a class10 at its full potential
[17:08] <ivotkl> Oh, ok. Thanks gordonDrogon.
[17:08] <gordonDrogon> 20MB/sec is the limit.
[17:08] <ivotkl> As far as I'm concerned they sell Class 6 on pi's site.
[17:08] <gordonDrogon> I used c6's and a c4'.
[17:08] <DDave> You guys are awesome, thanks
[17:09] <ivotkl> gordonDrogon, so before I leave, which should be in your opinion the best (or nearly the best) SD card cost-benefit like
[17:09] <ivotkl> ?
[17:09] <gordonDrogon> ivotkl, no idea - I've been luck with sandisks (and kingstons)
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[17:10] <gerrynjr> I've used PNY class 6 cards
[17:10] <b0ot> ivotkl, have you ever attempted to run ubuntu through a vm on the pi? I am interesting in trying to run zentyal with runs on top of ubuntu server 12.04
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[17:11] <Davespice> crikey moses, really?
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[17:12] <IT_Sean> I have the sneaking suspicion that a virtualized environment on the Pi would be... less than speedy.
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[17:12] <IT_Sean> and by "less than speedy" i mean "slower than a dead rat"
[17:12] <Davespice> word
[17:13] <gerrynjr> IT_Sean: paint drying would be faster
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[17:14] * IT_Sean has paint drying right now, actually.
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[17:15] <Emmycakes> is there a rapi friendly JRE?
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[17:23] <ivotkl> Have to go, see you guys. It's been a pleasure as always. You can find me on ubuntuforums, raspberrypi and linuxforums under this same nickname. =)
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[17:24] <ladoga> Emmycakes: raspbian seems to have several openjdk, gcj and icedtea
[17:25] <ShiftPlusOne> I think oracle jre is the fastest, but doesn't run on raspbian, so you'd need debian for it.
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[17:31] <columbo> are you sure ShiftPlusOne ?
[17:31] <columbo> I should try running the oracle jdk
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[17:31] <columbo> whats the error even?
[17:31] <ShiftPlusOne> nope, don't have personable experience with it, just something I've heard
[17:33] <columbo> oh its arm duh
[17:33] <columbo> im going to try to download 7u7
[17:33] <columbo> oh 7u15 now
[17:34] <columbo> theres a 7u10 linux arm demo
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[17:37] <columbo> looks like your best bet is to use the soft float abi oracle jdk 7u10 seems to run for me
[17:38] <columbo> but you need the rasbian soft float
[17:38] <ShiftPlusOne> there is no raspbian soft float, it's called debian.
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[17:39] <columbo> oh right
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[18:11] <sjefen6> does anyone have any recomandations on how to implement ogg/mp3/wav playback in Java for the raspberrypi? I am having trubble getting the gstreamer bindings working
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[18:15] <pgimeno> Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question, but I need to find out what driver does a specific WiFi interface use. Can someone give me an idea on how to find that out?
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[18:16] <netw1z> anyone else get kicked off their raspPI via wifi a lot?
[18:17] <t3ch> ya connection close a lot of time
[18:17] <t3ch> debian problem probably
[18:17] <t3ch> :)
[18:17] <t3ch> and what wifi
[18:17] <t3ch> pgimeno lspci lsmod
[18:18] <pgimeno> lspci on a pi??
[18:18] <netw1z> :)
[18:18] <t3ch> dont no didnt tryed yet
[18:18] <t3ch> :)
[18:18] <pgimeno> how do I find what in the output of lsmod is the WiFi driver?
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[18:19] <netw1z> this thing connects when it wants to
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[18:19] <netw1z> i wonder if it is my shite router
[18:19] <pgimeno> my suspicion is an rt2800usb
[18:19] <t3ch> maybe but i have connected all the time with ubuntu but raspbarrypi on debian disconnects
[18:20] <t3ch> and same usb wifi
[18:20] <t3ch> ya that is wifi pgimeno
[18:20] <netw1z> i got a edimax tiny usb wifi
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[18:21] <pgimeno> ok, running usb-devices shows Product=802.11 n WLAN and I: <snip> Driver=rt2800usb so I guess that's it
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[18:22] <pgimeno> I'm trying to follow a tutorial to make the RPi act as a wireless access point
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[18:27] <tdy_> i also have the edimax ew-7811un but wifi seems to be stable for me
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[18:27] <tdy_> connected to the campus wpa2-enterprise
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[18:34] <netw1z> it used to be stable for me as well
[18:35] <netw1z> i think i have a new router that maybe doesnt play well with it on the current settings
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[18:43] <pgimeno> Meh, I just found out that hostapd expects a driver *type* (from an internal list) not a driver *name*
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[18:46] <gordonDrogon> netw1z, your router may well be rubbish, but remember this is a family friendly forum...
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[18:57] <pgimeno> I wonder if this could have helped with netw1z's problems http://whitequark.org/blog/2011/09/12/tweaking-linux-tcp-stack-for-lossy-wireless-networks/
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[19:25] <rbeef> hello
[19:25] <SpeedEvil> I did a related thing yonks ago
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[19:25] <SpeedEvil> capping exponential back off at 5s
[19:25] <rbeef> is it possible to have audio out on the analog jack while having video streamed trough HDMI port?
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[19:26] <rbeef> I have a TV without HDMI and I'm using HDMI-DVI for video, but I'm loosing audio this way and the audio analog port is muted when HDMI is plugged in
[19:26] <IT_Sean> rbeef: Yes. Bug buggered if i can remember how. You do know that the audo jack will be of fairly poor quality, though, right?
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[19:26] <IT_Sean> *But
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[19:26] <rbeef> right, that's fine
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[19:26] <IT_Sean> I do not remember how, but, i believe you can do it.
[19:27] <IT_Sean> I wish i could be more helpful. Sorry.
[19:27] <rbeef> I'm using XBMC, if this helps you remember
[19:28] <IT_Sean> I'm using XBMC as well (OpenELEC), but i've got HDMI on my TV.
[19:28] <IT_Sean> Hang about a bit... someone in here will know.
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[19:31] <rbeef> I'm using Raspbmc
[19:31] <Willdude123> Are there any Raspberry Pi events (hackspaces, jams etc) in Hampshire?
[19:33] <rbeef> oh, I think I found a way
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[19:36] <chod> there is a old blokes riscos meet in southamption
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[19:40] <Willdude123> Shame there aren't any coding clubs for kids.
[19:40] <Willdude123> That would be good.
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[19:41] <chod> whats the difference ;-)
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[19:42] <Willdude123> The fact that I'd look weird going to a hackspace or linux user group, and I have no adult relatives who give a **** about Linux.
[19:43] <Willdude123> Or coding in general, or computer science..
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[19:43] <rbeef> IT_Sean: XBMC actually has an option in setting to output audio to analog, awesome
[19:44] <chod> Willdude123: there is only a couple of us who can code
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[19:44] <chod> the rest are just be wildered
[19:44] <IT_Sean> WOOT!
[19:44] <IT_Sean> Awesome rbeef. there you go!
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[20:01] <lupinedk> http://lupine.dyndns.info/
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[20:04] <markit> lupinedk: what is it? I understand are info about your raspberry, but is a special program on a web server?
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[20:05] <lupinedk> just this http://derkev.in/rpisysinfoscript/ on a lighttpd server
[20:05] <markit> I see, thanks
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[20:18] <ryanteck> Hia
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[20:39] <rbeef> so, if I get a Hama remote for xmbc, do I need some kind of adapter for the RPi?
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[20:41] <linuxstb> rbeef: Doesn't it come with a USB receiver?
[20:41] <|Jeroen|> use cec its much easyer
[20:41] <rbeef> what's cec?
[20:42] <IT_Sean> not all TVs have CEC.
[20:42] <IT_Sean> Mine doesn't :(
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[20:42] <rbeef> mine doesn't have HDMI, I bet it doesn't have cec either...
[20:44] <linuxstb> IT_Sean: And even if the TV supports CEC, either the remote's buttons may not be passed through, or the remote doesn't have enough buttons to be useful for xbmc.
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[20:44] <IT_Sean> I use a wireless (RF) keyboard for xbmc.
[20:44] <linuxstb> But it's very nice when it works.
[20:45] <IT_Sean> yah yah yah... :/
[20:45] <rbeef> but I guess if hama remote comes with an USB receiver, it's pretty nice
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[20:46] <|Jeroen|> you can remap the color buttons so its fully functional
[20:46] <|Jeroen|> and it doesn't cost a thing then
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[20:48] <angelos> so what's the difference between hdmi_mode=16 and hdmi_mode=82? both are listed as 1080p 60hz on elinux.org/RPiconfig
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[20:51] <linuxstb> angelos: It depends if you are using hdmi_group=1 or 2
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[20:53] <angelos> ah, right, 16 is for CEA only and 82 for DMT only
[20:53] <angelos> missed that
[20:53] <angelos> thanks
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[20:55] <Pumtrix> hey guys.
[20:56] <Pumtrix> I'm literally searching through links and links of touchscreen threads on the forums, I'm see different ideas at different ranges. - Is there one preffered solution yet? Or just what other people have been posting on the forums?
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[21:00] <Pumtrix> (Sorry if you get asked this question all the time).
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[21:17] <ChasingASmallAni> hello
[21:18] <ChasingASmallAni> does anyone happen to know why I'm getting 'qemu: uncaught target signal 4 (Illegal instruction) - core dumped' when executing aptitude update from a rpi chroot on an ubuntu machine ?
[21:18] <pronto> because you're doing illegal things, the cops will be at your front door shortly
[21:19] <pronto> ChasingASmallAni: but really, most likely becuase 32bit/64bit vs ARM
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[21:19] <pronto> (for the techinal... x86 vs arm)...
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[21:21] <ChasingASmallAni> it was my understanding that it was possible to do this using qemu-arm-static
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[21:21] <pronto> oh, it might be.. i have no diea
[21:21] <ChasingASmallAni> which I copied to the /usr/bin folder on the rpi filesystem
[21:21] <pronto> idea
[21:21] <ChasingASmallAni> okay, thanks anyway
[21:21] <ChasingASmallAni> i was trying to set up some cross compiling
[21:21] <pronto> where did it dump to?
[21:21] <ChasingASmallAni> wasn't able to find the core dump
[21:22] <ChasingASmallAni> I ran find / -iname "core"
[21:22] <ChasingASmallAni> but got the same illegal instruction signal
[21:22] <Ben-> Is there any possibility that the Raspberry Pi lists an usb drive not in /dev/sdb1 oder /dev/sdc1 ? I plugged in my usb hard drive but it does not appear in /dev
[21:22] <Ben-> though it worked before
[21:25] <linuxstb> Ben-: What does your kernel log say after you plug it in? e.g. "sudo tail -30 /var/log/messages"
[21:27] <Meatballs> brilliant, name a podcast 'ez mode' to draw in all the beginners and then unleash HDM at 1000 words per minute
[21:28] <Ben-> linuxstb: yeah strange, once I did that and replugged it, I can see it in /dev now
[21:28] <Ben-> replug didnt work before
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[21:36] <Pumtrix> hey IT_Sean.
[21:37] <rbeef> for using XBMC, do I have to buy MPEG-2 and VC codecs?
[21:38] <rbeef> or, if buying them, will it help with XBMC?
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[21:42] <IT_Sean> yes?
[21:42] <Pumtrix> I was just saying hi.
[21:42] <Pumtrix> sorry.
[21:42] <IT_Sean> Oh. Hi.
[21:42] <IT_Sean> :p
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[21:48] <linuxstb> rbeef: Only if you have videos in those formats.
[21:48] <rbeef> thanks
[21:48] <Grievar> YES
[21:49] <ryanteck> Hmm, I just realised. If you buy one license for one pi you can only use it on that pi can't you?
[21:49] <Grievar> I /FINALLY/ found the right kind of flat-flex cable to go into the camera port
[21:49] <Grievar> YAY
[21:49] <linuxstb> ryanteck: Yes, it's linked to your Pi's serial number.
[21:49] <Grievar> ryanteck: I would guess when you buy a license you have to put in a serial number
[21:49] <Grievar> and the key will only work on the chip with that serial number
[21:49] <ryanteck> Yeh I think you do
[21:49] <linuxstb> Grievar: Correct.
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[21:56] <Lartza> Is there a fix for the audio pop on start and stop of stream?
[21:56] <Lartza> 3.5mm
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[21:59] <IT_Sean> Lartza: I don't believe so. The Pop you are hearing is the audio hardware being switched on. Do you not have HDMI on your display?
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[22:00] <Lartza> IT_Sean: It's headless with SSH acces and I just had the genious idea of 3.5mm line in to my desktop :)
[22:00] <IT_Sean> Ah
[22:00] <IT_Sean> i see
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[22:00] <Lartza> I read pulseaudio would fix it but hmm...
[22:01] <IT_Sean> i am not personally aware of a fix. But, that does not mean there isn't one.
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[22:02] <Lartza> How much resources does a pulseaudio install take can anyone say?
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[22:04] <Lartza> Hmm I am actually probably getting a Rev 2 Pi on Friday so it will most likely not be a problem with that sweet 512 RAM
[22:04] <Lartza> :)
[22:04] <IT_Sean> what are you using your Pis for?
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[22:05] <Amadiro> Lartza, it doesn't use a lot of ram (depends a little on your configuration) but it can eat quite a bit of CPU at times.
[22:05] <Amadiro> I can't really comment on whether it fixes the popping, as I only use it through a USB soundcard/hdmi
[22:06] <Lartza> IT_Sean: A random machine ;) Currently I moved as much stuff as possible from my Desktop to the Pi to see what I can do
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[22:07] <Lartza> IT_Sean: Sadly I am on Windows... but if I were on Linux I usually use quite a bit of terminal software like finch and rtorrent and those I am not running on my Pi instead of Pidgin and uTorrent on Windows, among other things
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[22:08] <Lartza> Oh and I also do my web designing on it until it's ready and I push it out :)
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[22:09] <Lartza> nginx<3 tried to use monkey but it's still a bit new
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[22:13] <Houksi> good evening to all
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[22:14] <IT_Sean> Afternoon.
[22:14] <Houksi> i encountered weird problem with my raspberry, so i need to know is this "warning" big problems or not
[22:14] <Lartza> Night :D
[22:14] <Lartza> timezones <3
[22:14] <IT_Sean> Houksi: what's the problem.
[22:14] <Houksi> Oct 28 22:59:39 raspberrypi kernel: [ 18.023260] mmc0: missed completion of cmd 18 DMA (512/512 [1]/[1]) - ignoring it
[22:14] <Goleif> Hello! Does anyone here _know_ if it's possible to get Netflix running on the Raspberry Pi + XBMC yet?
[22:14] <Houksi> Oct 28 22:59:39 raspberrypi kernel: [ 18.040443] mmc0: DMA IRQ 6 ignored - results were reset
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[22:15] <IT_Sean> O_o
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[22:15] <Houksi> i only get these on boot but later on no
[22:16] <Houksi> i have same lines coming either mmc what came with rasp and mmc which i bought and made with dd
[22:16] <Houksi> with archlinux... no those lines at all
[22:16] <Houksi> fedora same... no lines at all
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[22:17] <Lartza> Goleif: No, is there Netflix for XBMC at all?
[22:18] <Houksi> uname output from these is 3.6.11+ #371 PREEMPT Thu Feb 7 16:31:35 GMT 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux
[22:18] <IT_Sean> sorry Houksi... no clue.
[22:18] <Goleif> Lartza: XBMC Flicks addon, yes
[22:18] <Goleif> but it seems impossible to find a zip for it
[22:18] <Lartza> Goleif: Yeah just found that, Windows only
[22:18] <Goleif> Alright. Crap.
[22:19] <Houksi> where i can find 3.6.11+ #377 PREEMPT Sat Feb 16 17:31:02 GMT 2013 armv6l GNU/Linux
[22:19] <Lartza> Goleif: They use Silverlight and DRM on it so :/
[22:19] <Lartza> Houksi: Android apparently has Netflix support? So that is a possibility someday
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[22:19] <Goleif> Lartza: I read on the RPi forum that a user had been in contact with Netflix though, and they said they're working on it
[22:20] <Goleif> Lartza: Some half-official addon then I guess
[22:20] <Goleif> or perhaps a special OS, I don't know
[22:21] <Houksi> it_sean is there place i could throw mail to issue of this?
[22:21] <Lartza> Goleif: Hopefully someday :) I don't use Netflix personally but it just landed here(Finland) not too long ago
[22:21] <jfmherokiller1> anyone know how to get a samba server working on the pi
[22:21] <Goleif> Lartza: Moi moi
[22:21] <Lartza> :D
[22:22] <Goleif> A friend in Finland uses the service, she says it works really well
[22:22] <Lartza> jfmherokiller1: Install and run? Debian?
[22:22] <IT_Sean> Houksi: there is a support section in the raspi forum you could try
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[22:22] <Houksi> ok, thank you
[22:22] <jfmherokiller1> stupid thing wont allow me to connect to the name but it works if i use the ip address
[22:23] <Lartza> jfmherokiller1: What is trying to connect to where?
[22:23] <Lartza> Windows to Samba?
[22:23] <jfmherokiller1> yes my windows 8 pc to the pi
[22:23] <Lartza> I am actually just going to set-up samba so hang on
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[22:23] <jfmherokiller1> i tried ubuntu and it has the same problem
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[22:24] <Goleif> Lartza: How about this; would it be possible to run Flicks on Windows, and somehow pass it on to XBMC on another system inside the same network...?
[22:24] <double-you> there are instruction to setup samba, it's really simple
[22:24] <Lartza> Goleif: Ehh
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[22:24] <zleap> gordonDrogon, hik
[22:24] <jfmherokiller1> i made a mastake it works on ubuntu but not on windows
[22:25] <Lartza> Goleif: Technically anything is possible like that :P You just have to find to stream the image and audio somehow... or something
[22:25] <Lartza> jfmherokiller1: samba has the workgroup set-up? What error are you seeing in windows?
[22:27] <jfmherokiller1> the work group is fine because its visible in the network area of the windows file manager
[22:27] <Lartza> Okay the Pi is visible, but you can't see the shares?
[22:27] <Lartza> Or trying to open the Pi results in an error?
[22:28] <jfmherokiller1> trying to open it
[22:28] <jfmherokiller1> i can open it by using the pis ip address thought
[22:28] <Lartza> There is no error?
[22:29] <jfmherokiller1> no error with the ip but there is one by using the name
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[22:32] <jfmherokiller1> just found out why i think. windows checks the port 445 when using the name but there is no service running on that port
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[22:33] <mrmoney2012> why this in my dmesg output when i play a sound??? cm109 1-1.3.4:1.3: cm109_urb_irq_callback: urb status -71
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[22:35] <gordonDrogon> well that was fun.
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[22:42] <martk100> How do I calibrate my N-Trig touchscreen for xbmc on the Rpi?
[22:42] <mfletcher> anyone got django/nginx running on a 512MB pi? Is it possible?
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[23:13] <TAFB_afk> nginx just rips on a Pi :)
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[23:15] <tdy_> and i'm using django in dev mode.. i don't see why django/nginx wouldn't be "possible"
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[23:23] <SixtyFold> how well does an hdmi to dvi adapter work for rPi?
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[23:24] <ParkerR> HDMI to DVI is passive. There is no signal conversion
[23:24] <_ember> workes for me
[23:24] <_ember> *worked
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[23:24] <_ember> exactly, assuming that you want to se digital dvi
[23:25] <ParkerR> So assuming the adapter isnt complete crap it should be fine
[23:25] <SixtyFold> yah, should be fine id imagine
[23:25] <_ember> yes
[23:25] <SixtyFold> but just wanted to make sure
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[23:26] <SixtyFold> i mean i have a mac mini doing the same exact thing, it even came with a hdmi to dvi converter, so, figured it should be fine, but idk enough about my rPi yet, so
[23:26] <SixtyFold> thanks anyhow
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[23:39] <Twist-> SixtyFold: I use the hdmi->dvi adapter from my mac mini with my Pi. It works perfectly.
[23:39] <SixtyFold> nice twist :)
[23:39] <SixtyFold> how well would this work for rPi? http://www.amazon.com/PowerGen-Dual-Port-Travel-Charger/dp/B0073FE1F0/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1362004241&sr=8-5&keywords=nexus+7+charger
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[23:40] <Twist-> SixtyFold: works fine. A powered USB hub is another alternative.
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[23:41] <SixtyFold> 2.1a is what you need for rPi right?
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[23:42] <Twist-> no.
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[23:43] <Twist-> A model B board has a max draw of 700ma.
[23:43] <SixtyFold> how does that work well with it then?
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[23:45] <Twist-> That's fine. A power supply rated for higher current won't push more current than the attached devices draw.
[23:46] <Twist-> I use whatever phone charger or usb power adapter is closest.. my ipad chargers, my blackberry charger.. whatever.
[23:46] <Twist-> You can power the Pi off your computer's USB if you want.
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[23:46] <SixtyFold> okay cool
[23:47] <Twist-> The man caveat is that it can't supply very much power to usb devices on its own
[23:47] <Twist-> so if you want to use a usb hard drive or similar, you'll need a powered hub anyway
[23:47] <SixtyFold> my knowledge of electricity sucks over all, beyond knowing what i need on a PSU to build a computer, that's about as knowledgeable as i am haha
[23:47] <Twist-> SixtyFold: No worries.. I'm not much further along myself.
[23:48] <SixtyFold> all my usb hard drives are powered anyhow, so im good with that
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[23:50] <CRNorris> A particularly tidy solution is using a powered hub to power the Pi as well as provide extra USB ports
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[23:56] <Twist-> CRNorris: Heh.. I'm worred about creating some sort of short circuit with that shit.
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[23:57] <CRNorris> hasn't happened to me, I have one cable connecting the raspberry pi to the hub for data, from its USB port, and another powering it through the micro usb port
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[23:58] <CRNorris> I think if you tried powering it through the (data) USB port you might do some damage
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