#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-03-06

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[0:00] <Maior> KiltedPi: that's nice, a CCIE or similar doesn't make you immune to stringing buzzwords together incoherently
[0:00] <gordonDrogon> zleap, sure.
[0:00] <KiltedPi> Maior, I dunno what you want me to say,
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[0:00] <zleap> is open document format ok, or should i put it as text
[0:00] <KiltedPi> I tried to put it into simple terms, (Ping) for ICMP
[0:00] <zleap> put / save
[0:01] <Maior> a DDoS doesn't need to be a SYN flood; you don't want ICMP packets for SYN (since, uh, TCP by definition) and yeah ok, smurfing is perhaps relevant, but feels so very tacked on
[0:01] <KiltedPi> SYN flood, left it at that, don't want to get into SYN/ACK
[0:01] <gordonDrogon> a distributed denial of service attack can take many forms. syn/icmp is just one..
[0:01] <Maior> indeed
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[0:01] <gordonDrogon> imagine a million PCs doing a http fetch of the same page..
[0:01] <KiltedPi> Yeah, I don't rly know what I said that was incorrect?
[0:01] <zleap> gordonDrogon, that happened soon after launch iirc
[0:01] <ukscone> gordonDrogon: you mean like last 29th feb :)
[0:01] <gordonDrogon> imagine a million PCs doing just about anything really...
[0:02] <double-you> cant the hardware just ignore all of the spamming IPs?
[0:02] <zleap> lol
[0:02] <gordonDrogon> ukscone, yea, a mllion people trying to order a Pi :)
[0:02] <gordonDrogon> double-you, not easilly.
[0:02] <KiltedPi> unfortunately not double-you, how do you distinguish between legitimate hosts you see.
[0:02] <gordonDrogon> double-you, or not cheaply ...
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[0:03] <zleap> gordonDrogon, i guess me trying to go to the site simply adds to the problem
[0:03] <gordonDrogon> I think it's sadder that there are a million compromised PCs out there (and I know that's just the tip of the iceberg)
[0:03] <gordonDrogon> zleap, yes.
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[0:04] <zleap> i guess there are loads more out there
[0:04] <KiltedPi> gordon, do you know how libraries work in cadsoft Eagle?
[0:05] <gordonDrogon> KiltedPi, I've no idea.
[0:05] <KiltedPi> Or do you use a different package for pcb?
[0:05] <KiltedPi> drat.
[0:05] <gordonDrogon> I used Fritzing.
[0:05] <KiltedPi> Is its library quite comprehensive?
[0:05] <Maior> gordonDrogon: yeah, friend's an ircop on a sizeable network; watching the people with botnets that can take down countries is... distressing
[0:06] <KiltedPi> The advice I'm getting is 'add your own design in'
[0:06] <zleap> why target raspberrypi though
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[0:06] <Maior> zleap: big name target, lots of attention and visibility
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[0:07] <zleap> and the news people will report it = publicity
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[0:08] <gordonDrogon> KiltedPi, not really.
[0:08] <gordonDrogon> KiltedPi, it is free though.
[0:08] <Slippern> i have a problem with my thinkpad tablet, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2175956 any ideas if i can connect the microusb to the docking-port??
[0:09] <gordonDrogon> KiltedPi, fritzing.org
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[0:11] <zleap> gordonDrogon, sent
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[0:13] <KiltedPi> I'll pass gordon
[0:13] <KiltedPi> I'm too invested in Eagle now :(
[0:13] <KiltedPi> I'll still have to learn how to do it, Eagle/Fritzing.. :(
[0:14] <gordonDrogon> what are you making?
[0:16] <SwK> Maior: oh how about synfloods??? some ass hat over the past month or 2 has been repeatedly synflooding freeswitch.org like it does something other then just annoy us??? i mean really 1995 called and wants their attack back
[0:17] <Maior> SwK: CloudFront? ;P
[0:18] <chod> which meia centre/player is most fluid on raspberry pi, tried xmbmc it has too much stuuf and the pi can slow
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[0:19] <KiltedPi> apologies-
[0:19] <KiltedPi> hard at work gordo mate.
[0:19] <gordonDrogon> gordo ?
[0:19] <KiltedPi> I've bought some integrated circuits, but my 'habberdash' PCB is terrible
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[0:20] <Maior> chod: I'm still using XBMC
[0:20] <KiltedPi> n
[0:20] <SwK> Maior: no just a standard random sourced syn flood??? sysctl -w net.ipv4.tcp_syncookies=1 usually helps mitigate it??? they are only hitting us with 50 to 100megs of syns
[0:20] <KiltedPi> Its about 4 inches in length on some bad breadboard
[0:20] <chod> Maior: on a 512mb version?
[0:20] <KiltedPi> with thich wiring!
[0:20] <KiltedPi> thick*
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[0:20] <Maior> SwK: I mean "CloudFront as a general useful protection layer"
[0:20] <chod> Maior: clocked?
[0:20] <KiltedPi> So, I'm trying out eagle, to make a few of them
[0:20] <Maior> SwK: I note that RasPi are using syncookies
[0:20] <Maior> chod: yes, no, respectively
[0:20] <gordonDrogon> cloudfront won't help if they know the real underlying IP address though.
[0:21] <SwK> Maior: w0w how much traffic are they taking?
[0:21] <chod> mine is a 256 maybe thats the isssue
[0:21] <KiltedPi> I'm teaching programming to some kids at the local youth project my g.f runs
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[0:21] <gordonDrogon> so you need to move to cf and change hosts... if possible
[0:21] <KiltedPi> This hardware business is tricky in comparison!
[0:21] <Maior> SwK: pass; ask them on Twitter? (I'll ask the chap I know at their hosting provider...)
[0:21] <chod> Maior: 1080p video at 1900x1080 res runs fluid ?
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[0:22] <Maior> chod: good question; my RasPi's only used for 720
[0:22] <sam_nazarko> IMHO syn cookies does not help much
[0:22] <chod> Maior: ahh
[0:22] <chod> ok
[0:23] <chod> just got a class 10 SD to see if that helps
[0:23] <zleap> KiltedPi, cool i am doing something similar
[0:23] <chod> next ill get a 512mb
[0:24] <Maior> chod: good steps; not sure if it'll be enough; will have a poke tomorrow if I get time
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[0:28] <zleap> i tried open arena yesterday it works but is slow, i think it needs more ram
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[0:28] <zleap> pi site back up
[0:29] <Maior> chod: more generally, I'd consider Class 10 SD Cards as "always worth it"
[0:30] <Tachyon`> oh, synfloods, how cute, lol, what next, wardialling your local exchange to find the dialin number?
[0:31] <Maior> Tachyon`: well now you're making me feel young :P
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[0:36] <chod> Maior: the other media centres if coded tighter ie less tranparencys/pretty ness could be faster
[0:36] <chod> i will try some
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[0:37] <Maior> chod: er, I thought you had playback issues, not interaction issues
[0:38] <chod> playback on 1080 buffering i guess
[0:38] <Maior> transparency/"pretty" isn't going to make much difference to playback...
[0:38] <Maior> mmm
[0:38] <chod> it all consumes cpu time
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[0:39] <chod> animated items, tickers scrolling etc
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[0:42] <Maior> well yes, but are both an issue or just one?
[0:42] <chod> just too much load i might guess or lack of ram
[0:43] <chod> riscos is really fast compared to a real riscos machine ;-)
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[0:52] <maximi89> fr0g911: hi
[0:52] <maximi89> which distro do you recommend for normal usage like a PC
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[0:57] <Scriven> raspian, maximi89
[0:57] <Scriven> imnsho anyway.
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[1:04] <gordonDrogon> I'd suggest raspbian too.
[1:04] <gordonDrogon> but mostly because I've been running Debian on my desktops for ever.
[1:06] <Maior> maximi89: my approximate RasPi OS flowchart: "Do you have specific OS requirements? If no, Raspbian"
[1:07] <maximi89> Maior: there is some way to have dualboot on it?
[1:07] <Maior> maximi89: probably; I just use multiple SD cards
[1:08] <maximi89> thanks Scriven Maior ;)
[1:08] <pksato> maximi89: berryboot.
[1:08] <maximi89> berryboot nice
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[1:10] <Scriven> Maior, lol, good one. ;) And gordonDrogon, that's another reason why I like it, it's just so familiar!
[1:11] <Scriven> berryboot may be a good 2nd choice, once you've worked your way around a bit and want to explore. I don't recommend it for a 1st time.
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[1:22] <chod> nod
[1:22] <gordonDrogon> Bah. Giving up on Fritzing now - their latest release won't run under Debian.
[1:22] <gordonDrogon> They compile it under Ubuntu.
[1:23] <gordonDrogon> I've evne tried to compile it under Debian.
[1:23] <KiltedPi> I'm learning this Eagle business
[1:24] <chod> openelec feels fluid on a class 10
[1:24] <KiltedPi> seems to be the industry standard, but is (Ugh) american
[1:24] <zleap> gongoputch, do they have source code
[1:27] <gordonDrogon> KiltedPi, I know - but it seems the free version is somewhat dated under Debian.
[1:28] <gordonDrogon> zleap, think you mean me - yes, fritzing have source code and I have tried to compile it - and failed.
[1:28] <zleap> KiltedPi, what sort of coding group are you running
[1:28] <zleap> gordonDrogon, yeah sorry
[1:28] <zleap> hmm, yeah seem to do odd things, i wonder if this is why jet set willy and manic miner won't compile
[1:29] <zleap> i may try under debian on the pi
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[2:05] <Torikun> oi
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[2:05] <alcides> hi
[2:05] <alcides> hola
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[2:08] <A124> Hey.
[2:08] <A124> Umm.. any ideas how to get data from partition on Pi on Win7?
[2:09] <pksato> http://www.ext2fsd.com/
[2:11] <A124> :O
[2:11] <A124> pksato: Kind thank you. Have not fount that.
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[2:24] <ThJ> I seem to have a problem where the SD card reader chokes when USB devices are powered up. Problem seems to have started after upgrading to 2013-02-09 version of Raspbian.
[2:25] <A124> Is there any question? Oh. There is not. Good.
[2:25] <ThJ> I'm getting mmc0 command timeouts right after the USB keyboard powers up, even with just the USB keyboard attached. I have tried with 2 power supplies, a HTC phone 1A supply, and a powered USB hub with a 2A supply. Whenever I attach a single USB device to the USB port, it runs into trouble booting.
[2:27] <A124> a) USB Hub at 2A does not has to give 2A. Also for Pi it should be 1.2 or so. But still should not be a prob. Have you tried inserting the card again? .. Also next time consider making a question or noone may help as you did not asked for it.
[2:30] <ThJ> A124: Amperes merely state the amount of current drawn (or a maximum of such, for a power supply). Having an oversized power supply is rarely a problem, unless it's a switched supply and you're drawing too *little* current from it.
[2:30] <ThJ> I have tried reinserting the card numerous times. Problem generally disappears if I unplug every single USB device.
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[2:31] <ThJ> I might try reflashing with the older Raspbian image I have, just to see if the problem disappears.
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[2:32] <ThJ> The question is, as should be easily deducible from my initial comment, is this a known issue, and more importantly, what can I do about it?
[2:33] <A124> ThJ: I use last firmware without probs. Using upto 2USB devices, on 1A I guess
[2:33] <A124> No, It's not known as far as I know.
[2:34] <A124> It may be conflicting device or sth. Is it any device r just the specific?
[2:34] <ThJ> I have a multimeter and an oscilloscope, so I could check the voltage and the cleanness of the supply, if I knew about some good probing points on the RPi board.
[2:34] <ThJ> Mmm, let me experiment with that, one second.
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[2:36] <A124> ThJ, Yes there are some points, refer to docs. Also USB ground and VCC should be enough. And power circuit is also easy to identify.
[2:37] <ThJ> A124: Well, I asked, in case anybody had a link to a diagram lying around, heh.
[2:37] <ThJ> And what do you know.
[2:37] <ThJ> Of all freaking devices that could cause trouble, apparently, it doesn't like??? my keyboard?!
[2:38] <ThJ> It worked fine before, why is this happening now?
[2:38] <Scriven> blargh... roaming's frustratingly annoying.
[2:38] <Scriven> Anyone actually get wifi roaming working w/o using X?
[2:39] <A124> Scriven.. what is roaming?
[2:39] <Scriven> A124, setting up the wifi so when you move the pi around, you can connect to the various wifi networks you pass through as you go.
[2:39] <A124> ThJ: Yep, shit happens. I suggest reporting it as bug.
[2:39] <ThJ> I wonder if anything changed in the way USB devices are brought up in the recent kernel.
[2:39] <Scriven> same as X's various network management stuff.
[2:40] <A124> Scriven: Aah. Idk. Should work. Let me know when you do, or on progress.
[2:40] <ThJ> A124: Should I bother trying to reflash with the older image, just to be sure? It would probably make a stronger case if I did...
[2:40] <ThJ> See, if it suddenly doesn't work with the old image either, I might have a hardware issue on my hands.
[2:40] <A124> But if it works under X it should under cli. Also I already managed that. Tbh I don't use X even for that
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[2:41] <A124> ThJ: Yes, that's best.
[2:41] <A124> ThJ: Let me know, if you'd like to
[2:41] <ThJ> A124: Who are you?
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[2:42] <hobo> anybody know how to run a startup script on boot?
[2:42] <Scriven> A124, there's bunches of how-tos and whatnot, all of which do it slightly differently, and none of which I can make work. Single-ssid setup, hardcoded into /etc/network/interfaces works just fine, but can't get roaming with wpasupplicant working.
[2:42] <Scriven> hobo, depends on how you mean.
[2:42] <Scriven> hobo, do you want to run one of your scripts on boot?
[2:42] <hobo> i wnat to plug the power into the rpi, and the script to run
[2:42] <Scriven> /etc/rc.local is executed on boot.
[2:43] <A124> hobo: rc.local doesn't work?
[2:43] <hobo> so can i just put it into rc.local and then change chmod/
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[2:43] <Scriven> you can add a link to the full path of your script there. if you want your script to run while the computer is running, put an & at the end.
[2:44] <A124> Scriven is just faster heh
[2:44] <Scriven> well, the script should be chmod'd anyway, and rc.local is already setup properly.
[2:44] <Scriven> A124, many years typing 'practice', lol
[2:44] <ThJ> A124: Let me rephrase??? Is there a particular reason you'd like to know it if I'd like to?
[2:45] <Scriven> hobo: /full/path/to/your/script &
[2:45] <A124> ThJ: Interest in hardware and microelectronics in general and chip compatibility.
[2:45] <Scriven> followed by the existing: exit 0
[2:45] <Scriven> keep that exit 0 the last line.
[2:45] <A124> ThJ: Also the KB chipset etc would be nice.
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[2:46] <ThJ> A124: Aha. I was wondering if you were directly involved in RPi development, that is all.
[2:46] <A124> Nah I would not have that stupid nick in that case I guess
[2:47] <Scriven> A124, If the wpasupplicant roaming works properly, basically it parses a file in order, looking to find and connect to one of the networks listed.
[2:47] <Scriven> A124, I've double-checked all the settings I can find, it all works 'normally', but with roaming and wpasupplicant it's just full of fail.
[2:47] <A124> Scriven: Interesting.
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[2:48] <Scriven> like network-manager stuff in X, only in cli and behind-the-scenes.. sounds fantastic if I can make it work! lol
[2:48] <A124> Scriven: I don't have wifi myself so I can't assist indirectly
[2:48] <Scriven> but i'm almost at the 'rip dreadlocks out by hand' stage of frustration.
[2:48] <ThJ> A124: Well, I'm going to give re-flashing a go. I can't type on the console with the new image without a keyboard, obviously.
[2:49] <hobo> Scriven: so if my script is just on the desktop, i just insert the path?
[2:49] <A124> ThJ: Sure.
[2:49] <Scriven> hobo, yes, followed by &
[2:49] <Scriven> the & is very important most of the time.
[2:49] <A124> hobo: I recommend not using /home directory, but yes, if it's chmod +x
[2:49] <Scriven> yup.
[2:50] <Scriven> for testing purposes /home/pi/Desktop/scriptname would be oK, but once it's working it should probably be moved somewhere more system related.
[2:50] <Scriven> ok, cooking dinner, bbiab.
[2:50] <ThJ> A124: Do you happen to know why USB bandwidth seems limited to about 20-22 Mb/s on the RPi?
[2:50] <ThJ> *MB
[2:51] <A124> ThJ: Yep sharing bus with network
[2:51] <A124> *bandwidth
[2:51] <ThJ> A124: I'm not using the Ethernet port, though.
[2:51] <ThJ> A124: Is this locked in hardware?
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[2:52] <A124> Not sure though. could be control data, or sth else. But it's getting close to full USB2 anyway
[2:52] <hobo> wait, what why does the home directory matter?
[2:52] <ThJ> A124: Is the 2013 image any better in that respect?
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[2:53] <A124> ThJ: Not sure about USB in particular, but the image is majorly improved
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[2:53] <ThJ> A124: All the more reason for me to file the bug, I suppose.
[2:53] <ThJ> A124: Card flashed.
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[2:54] <ThJ> A124: First boot is flawless, as expected.
[2:55] <ThJ> A124: Will try booting a couple of times more, then do some standard setup things, like extending the root partition, to see if any problems crop up there. Had success on the FIRST boot of the 2013 image, but it failed on 2nd boot after setup, so I wanna see if this one works fine.
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[2:57] <A124> ThJ: oke
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[3:00] <ThJ> A124: Okay, so it's booting fine. But one thing I do notice is that it does take a good couple of seconds for the USB device to initialize.
[3:01] <A124> Do you have v1 or v2 board?
[3:02] <A124> ThJ: Ping
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[3:03] <ThJ> A124: Sorry, I'm using a HDMI switch, can't watch 2 devices at once, hehe
[3:03] <ThJ> A124: I have the v2 board, 512 MB.
[3:04] <A124> No prob. I use ssh ^^
[3:05] <ThJ> A124: I normally do too, but in this case, it's tricky, since it won't even boot with the 2013 image.
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[3:06] <ThJ> I have the switch for initial setup before networking is available, etc.
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[3:09] <ThJ> A124: BRB, I have to eat. Pesky stomach.
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[3:31] <ngc0202> So I was installing some things via apt-get install
[3:31] <ngc0202> and I ran out of space on my sd card
[3:31] <ngc0202> how do I save it?
[3:33] <A124> Save what?
[3:33] <ngc0202> Get it running normally again
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[3:34] <ngc0202> Any time I try to do something that would save disk space, it errors out from an error from no disk space
[3:34] <yeik> you might need to delete some files manually.
[3:34] <A124> Yep. Delete files manually, then ???sudo dpkg --configure -a???.
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[3:36] <maximi89> someone have tested the Bodhi OS?
[3:37] <maximi89> http://sourceforge.net/projects/bodhilinux/?source=dlp
[3:37] <maximi89> http://bodhilinux.com/downloads_mobile.php
[3:37] <ngc0202> What files are safe to just delete?
[3:37] <ngc0202> I'm a major newb
[3:38] <A124> maximi89: Not on RPi
[3:38] <chithead> "apt-get clean" will remove the downloaded .deb files
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[3:39] <maximi89> A124: so you have tried it but on X86_64 arch?
[3:39] <A124> Yes I did
[3:41] <yeik> Anybody gotten flash/youtube to work well on the pi?
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[3:42] <ThJ> A124: So, I've determined that the keyboard is a problem on the recent build.
[3:42] <A124> yeik: I did
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[3:42] <maximi89> TheSeven: why a problem the keyboard is?
[3:42] <maximi89> ThJ:
[3:42] <maximi89> xd
[3:43] <A124> ThJ: Then I reccommend to identify the chip (reported by system) and reporting that
[3:43] <ThJ> A124: Aha.
[3:43] <maximi89> I have a keyboard and it works perfectly with my Benq Keyboard
[3:43] <A124> It's reported at startup, or it also should be in logs or other ways to get it
[3:44] <A124> Also I would like to know the chipset
[3:44] <ThJ> maximi89: Well, the RPi gets trouble with the mmc0 device when you connect this particular keyboard. It doesn't choke on the mouse, only the keyboard, and only in the 2013-02 build, not the 2012 build.
[3:44] <maximi89> downloading Raspbian and Bodhy ready and looking how works BerryBoot
[3:44] <ThJ> A124: I'll find it, no worries.
[3:44] <des2> try: dmesg
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[3:44] <maximi89> what say the LSUSB? and dmesg or logread
[3:44] <maximi89> or cat /var/log/system
[3:45] <maximi89> tail -f /var/log/syslog
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[3:48] <A124> It's nide when one (myself) get tired as it's late someone else gives hand :P
[3:49] <ThJ> A124: 1a2c:0021 is the HW ID, but the name label is actually blank.
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[3:50] <ThJ> A124: HWID of the keyboard itself, that is.
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[3:51] <ThJ> I wish I had the serial console of this thing set up, so I could boot it and copy/paste from the terminal.
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[3:54] <ThJ> maximi89: lsusb -v gives only generic info. This is the 2012-12-16 build. For obvious reasons, I can't collect this info from the 2013-02-09 build, because it hangs during boot.
[3:54] <A124> ThJ: Umm. Thanks. Currently closing my 3k tabs. Trying to find way into Chrome (multiprocess) but I'll need at least more memory and time to find the things to manage the work.
[3:55] <maximi89> ThJ: what about a ls or echo directly to the device of the keyboard?
[3:55] <ThJ> maximi89: What would that accomplish?
[3:56] <ThJ> I mean, the keyboard is working fine on this build, it's the other build that doesn't boot when this keyboard's plugged in...
[3:56] <ThJ> I suppose I could hook the RPi up to my analog video grabber via the RCA port. At least I could get some screenshots if I did that.
[3:56] <A124> They keyboard What manufacturer and model?
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[3:57] <ThJ> A124: Completely generic Chinese keyboard from DealExtreme. There are no informative labels on it. I could try to disassemble and look for chips.
[3:58] <ThJ> I'll have a look on my receipt for the order, to see if there's a name there.
[3:58] <maximi89> ThJ: so it freeze when booting, have you tried to use SSH or other way to access it?
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[4:00] <ThJ> maximi89: Works fine without the keyboard. Can't type without a keyboard, though. I don't suppose there's a way of enabling SSH by modifying a file on the SD card?
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[4:00] <des2> you can type without a keyboard...
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[4:01] <A124> ThJ: Do you have the page for the keyboard? :D
[4:01] <ThJ> One second
[4:01] <Wired203> that's not typing that's clicky clicky
[4:02] <ThJ> A124: Found it. http://dx.com/p/z-006-multimedia-wired-87-key-keyboard-black-173700
[4:02] <des2> yes you can enable ssh by modifying the sd card
[4:02] <des2> In fact that's what people have been doing.
[4:02] <chupacabra> Is it just me or is XBMC majorly broken?
[4:02] * Firehopper has ssh enabled on my pi
[4:03] <ThJ> I usually have it enabled, but failed to imagine that a boot setting could enable a daemon.
[4:03] <Firehopper> I am in it right now using it to watch the BTC ticker
[4:03] <Firehopper> btc is crazy high..
[4:03] <Firehopper> its climbed nearly 3 $ today alone
[4:04] <A124> ThJ: Not a good choice. Anyway.. it's more problem of KB than Pi, but the Pi should still be able to handle it
[4:04] <yeik> A124, what did you do to get it to work?
[4:04] <ThJ> A124: I do notice that it seems a bit power hungry.
[4:04] <maximi89> Firehopper: yeah!
[4:04] <A124> I remember times when BTC was $4
[4:04] <ThJ> A124: 100mA for a keyboard is a bit high, I feel.
[4:04] <Firehopper> actually its climbed $7 today
[4:05] <A124> Why it goes so much up?
[4:05] <Firehopper> 43.65 to sell
[4:05] <ThJ> A124: What makes it a bad choice, apart from the fact that it's cheap?
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[4:05] <maximi89> A124: I remember my 65BTC and lost them because the wallet I backup was outdated XD
[4:05] <Firehopper> maximi89, ouch :(
[4:05] <Firehopper> that sucks dude
[4:06] <maximi89> yeah
[4:06] <maximi89> that really sucks XD
[4:06] <Firehopper> I hope price dont fall while I sleep..
[4:06] <A124> How can you outdate wallet?
[4:06] <maximi89> I have inverted 400USD
[4:06] <Firehopper> its bed time for me..
[4:06] <maximi89> and now that is like 2700USD
[4:06] <maximi89> XD
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[4:07] <Firehopper> my rpi is on freenode and in the #mtgox-rp chan.. where you can watch the liveticker :)
[4:07] <maximi89> A124: was 1 transaction who I was don't covered in my "wallet"
[4:07] <des2> http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/05/enable-secure-shell-ssh-on-your-raspberry-pi/
[4:07] <maximi89> looking Firehopper
[4:07] <des2> You probably just need to put the SD card on the PC and rename the file to enable ssh
[4:07] <yeik> seems like a boring place for a rpi
[4:07] <A124> yeik: Are you talking about youtube or youtube in browser?
[4:07] <ThJ> I keep making unlucky hardware choices when it comes to Linux. I bought a video grabber based on em28xx too, and of course, that driver has problems too.
[4:08] <Firehopper> looks like it might have hit 44 now
[4:08] <yeik> A124, either.
[4:08] <Firehopper> I have about 121$ worth of btc :>
[4:08] <A124> yeik: Stream to framebuffer. Youtube in console.. win
[4:09] <yeik> A124, lol. don't know how to do that, and thought it required flash, or html5
[4:09] <A124> Why thy price skyrockets?
[4:09] <yeik> dow skyrocketed today as well
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[4:10] <Wired203> heh I bought a 5$ wireless adapter which is a chipset that's supported but it wont go so I feel you on the bad hardware choices
[4:11] <A124> But 60 billion USD that enters the bitcoin system in the coming years means that the value of a bitcoin will increase another thousandfold:
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[4:11] <ThJ> Back.
[4:11] <A124> Some Visionary used all savings on BT
[4:11] <A124> C
[4:11] <Wired203> until they come out with bitcoin 2.0
[4:11] <A124> http://falkvinge.net/2011/05/29/why-im-putting-all-my-savings-into-bitcoin/
[4:11] <maximi89> someone have tried Corebot?
[4:11] <maximi89> coreboot*
[4:11] <yeik> A124 or it will just crash....
[4:12] <des2> Until the one day the US government shuts it all down
[4:12] <Wired203> actually des has it's right on
[4:12] <Wired203> because they aren't getting taxes from it
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[4:13] <A124> http://falkvinge.net/2013/03/04/after-being-cut-from-norway-the-pirate-bay-returns-from-north-korea/
[4:13] <A124> :D:D
[4:13] <A124> :D
[4:13] <des2> Next the Harlem Globetrotters will be going there...
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[4:14] <yeik> So, I am thinking of turning my pi into a home automation/alarm controller
[4:14] <ThJ> I wonder if disabling the Ethernet port would free up any USB bandwidth.
[4:14] <chupacabra> nope
[4:14] <A124> You can always try
[4:14] <A124> But Don't think so
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[4:15] <Wired203> only if you were using the ethernet port
[4:16] <ThJ> Wired203: So it doesn't actually statically reserve any bandwidth?
[4:16] <Wired203> no usb bandwidth is dynamic
[4:16] <yeik> ThJ, do you think you are bottlenecked at the USB? are you trying to use it to read/write lots of data?
[4:16] <A124> Window of Chrome-like browser just crashed.. GG
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[4:17] <Wired203> read/write lots of data tends to choke while it writes to the sd card, cache just fills up
[4:18] <yeik> A124, sounds like a browser... they are always crashing.
[4:18] <Wired203> I have transfered my mame library a few different times, at 10 gigs takes a lil while lol
[4:18] <ThJ> Wired203: Is, say, 11 MB/s, "a lot of data"?
[4:19] <yeik> Wired203, but USB is pretty good about letting things play nicely, so shouldn't really notice unless you are using a hub, and writing to several things all at once. then its going to be limited on boot drive, storage, etc.
[4:19] <Wired203> aye I get limited on storage to the sd card with a ftp session through ethernet direct connected
[4:19] <yeik> ftp isn't the fastest protocol
[4:19] <Wired203> 11m is quite a bit of data
[4:20] <Wired203> no but you can watch the pi catch up
[4:20] <yeik> 11 MB/s is slow. usb 2.0 should be able to do 32 MB/s easily.
[4:20] <Wired203> it will burst perhaps 10-20mb and then the xfer will hitch and the sd card gets accessed
[4:20] <chupacabra> lol
[4:20] <yeik> don't know the limitations on the pi though.
[4:21] <Wired203> pi testing of usb drives was showing about 20mb
[4:21] <A124> yeik: Nope. Mozilla Firefox is solid. Only what crashes is addon, which is with errors but valueble. So I tried Chrome.. bam freeze, crash
[4:21] <yeik> A124, firefox is a memory hog.
[4:21] <ThJ> Wired203: That's the highest I/O I've been able to get, about 20 MB/s.
[4:21] <A124> USB2 is 25 at file transfer
[4:21] <yeik> Wired203, ok. i'll have to test. I have a ssd drive, i'll connect it usb, test it on a computer, then on my pi
[4:22] <Wired203> I read about it on some tests people were doing where they had their sd card kick a boot on a usb drive for better xbmc performance
[4:22] <des2> You using a powered hub for the SSD ?
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[4:22] <yeik> ssd will have seperate power.
[4:22] <Wired203> I was debating doing that or just a larger sd card, I went for the sd card
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[4:23] <ThJ> If I had a video grabber dongle that transferred compressed images over the USB bus, I'd be a lot better off, I suspect.
[4:23] <Wired203> the elinux rpi page has the command for speed testing
[4:23] <yeik> cool i'll have to look it up
[4:23] <ThJ> I don't need to actually process the data, I just want to forward it to a WLAN NIC.
[4:24] <Wired203> http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards
[4:24] <yeik> thj, where is the data coming in from?
[4:24] <ThJ> Supposing I had a 1Mbit stream from the grabber, that'd be easy.
[4:26] <ThJ> yeik: well, I did one test with a logitech pro 9000 cam. i have a video grabber, but it doesn't work yet. i have to build a patched kernel module first.
[4:26] <Wired203> sounds like he's making a home made sling/shoutcast box
[4:26] <ThJ> nah.
[4:26] <Wired203> security cam?
[4:26] <ThJ> this is for an ROV.
[4:27] <yeik> thj, so you have a webcam, just trying to get the data from one computer to another? or to broadcast through a browser?
[4:27] <Wired203> ohhh for a ROV so an upskirt cam lol
[4:27] <ThJ> lol
[4:27] <yeik> I think there is software that can share USB devices through the network.
[4:27] <Wired203> wireless cams are cheap enough
[4:28] <ThJ> Wired203: sure, but i can't control their latency.
[4:28] <Wired203> yeik your thinking of vmware or similar
[4:28] <yeik> nope Wired203, i am not
[4:29] <Wired203> for sharing usb through a network those do it
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[4:29] <yeik> http://usbip.sourceforge.net/
[4:29] <ThJ> i bought this small camera board with analog outputs and replacable lenses.
[4:30] <clueful> should I expect instability if my power supply is providing ~4.85 V between TP1 and TP2?
[4:30] <ThJ> was originally gonna combine it with an RF adapter and an antenna amp, but I think it's better if I can do a digital link.
[4:30] <Wired203> overclock to 1gig, stress test and see if your unstable =P
[4:31] <Wired203> ThJ depends on the application
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[4:31] <ThJ> Wired203: original idea was ISM band uplink, 9600 baud, analog TV downlink at UHF frequencies.
[4:32] <ThJ> Wired203: i've got an RF module with a range of several miles, much better than what WiFi can do.
[4:32] <Wired203> well digital links are great but can be disrupted easier than a analog signal
[4:33] <Wired203> analog signals can take disruption and still function
[4:33] <ThJ> what i got stuck on was pretty much this: how to build an RF amp. for near-ghz frequencies, it seems to require very small circuits, and i've never built a radio transmitter before.
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[4:34] <Wired203> depends on the frequencys you want to use, could always use CB frequencys
[4:34] <ThJ> i got the cam working over a short distance by merely putting an antenna on the output of the RF adapter, but the signal was obviously very weak.
[4:34] <Wired203> and those amps aren't hard to build but take a ton of power
[4:34] <clueful> THJ why do you want to build your own RF amplifier?
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[4:35] <ThJ> clueful: long distance analog TV signal downlink from ROV.
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[4:35] <ThJ> that was the original plan anyway. no latency, high noise tolerance, higher range than at 2.4 GHz.
[4:36] <clueful> THJ you can buy pretty cheap amps especially near the cell phone bands ~ 1GHz
[4:36] <clueful> THJ sounds like a fun project
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[4:37] <des2> For a ghz amp you just buy one off the shelf.
[4:37] <Wired203> sounds like an excersize in frustration lol
[4:37] <ThJ> I was thinking I could use the audio channel on the RF modulator for downlink data.
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[4:38] <ThJ> Heck, I could use the audio output on the RPi plus some software to modulate a signal Commodore 64 style.
[4:38] <ThJ> Like phase shift keying or something.
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[4:38] <Wired203> ThJ you do realize you can buy rov goggles and camera rigs used for FPV flight right?
[4:39] <Wired203> range is usually at least 1000m
[4:39] <ThJ> Wired203: Supposing I wasn't flat broke most of the time, and supposing I didn't enjoy figuring things out on my own...
[4:40] <ngc0202> if I ssh to my rpi, run a command, and close putty, will it continue to run the command?
[4:40] <Wired203> ngc it should
[4:40] <des2> you can make it do so.
[4:40] <yeik> ngc0202, depends.
[4:40] <clueful> ngc0202 usually not but you can make it continue by using the nohup command, or a utility like screen
[4:40] <ThJ> Wired203: Why build anything, if they already manufacture it?
[4:41] <des2> Just background and nohup it.
[4:41] <ngc0202> ok
[4:41] <Wired203> ThJ cause you build the unmanfactured lol
[4:41] <yeik> ngc0202, if you need output, you won't see it. screen will work, bg and nohup are good as well.
[4:41] <clueful> what voltage level do you need for your rpi to be stable?
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[4:41] <ThJ> Wired203: Well, this thing is going to be unique.
[4:41] <des2> Probably at least 4.75V
[4:43] <Wired203> I generally try to not re-invent the wheel when I don't need to but the pi is fun to tinker with
[4:43] <Wired203> mine is destined to be the heart of a bartop arcade
[4:44] <yeik> Wired203, is it going to give out beer as a prize for winning a game?
[4:44] <Wired203> and once that's set I'll need another one to play with lol
[4:44] <yeik> kind of like beer pong?
[4:44] <Wired203> nope but shots prior to playing is going to be mandatory lol
[4:44] <yeik> rofl
[4:44] <yeik> i saw an arcade cabinet that had beer spouts... looked cool.
[4:45] <Wired203> then there will be a sliding scale required drink score
[4:45] <clueful> des2: I measured with a volt meter and I'm getting 4.85-4.9 but its still really unstable....it doesn't crash right away but usually within an hour
[4:45] <Wired203> yeah I saw that one, I'm finishing the basement and multiple arcade machines is part of the goal
[4:45] <des2> What exaxtly happens when it crashes ?
[4:45] <yeik> just do one, the pi can handle them all.
[4:46] <Wired203> starting with a bartop arcade and then a standard cabinet and finishing with a 4 player pedistal style
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[4:46] <Wired203> nah the other 2 will need more powerfull pc's
[4:47] <des2> Does your keyboard stop responding or the PI reboot or ?
[4:47] <clueful> des2: not sure it's a headless system so I just can't ssh into it...but typically the ethernet lights go out and there is just a single red light on...though sometimes the lights stay on and its still inaccessible
[4:47] <clueful> des2: it doesn't reboot its frozen
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[4:48] <Wired203> clueful stock speed or overclocked
[4:48] <des2> ok so you are accessing it through the onboard ethernet connector when this happens ?
[4:48] <ThJ> R/C cars are pretty fast these days, and you can get high capacity batteries.
[4:48] <clueful> des2: I've also tried using it with an external powered hdd (both through a powered hub and directly connected), I've also tried using a camera charger (5V 1A) and a powered USB hub to power it (supports 1A charging)
[4:49] <clueful> wired203: stock speed I believe...let me check
[4:49] <des2> Does it crash all the time ?
[4:49] <clueful> des2: sometimes I have an open ssh connection, often though I'm not connected at all and I just check back in and it doesn't respond
[4:50] <clueful> des2: there were a few days where it seemed like it was making it through the night maybe but recently I don't think I've made it for more than an hour or two
[4:50] <Wired203> is the sd card on the approved hardware list?
[4:50] <clueful> its clocked at 700
[4:50] <clueful> not sure let me check
[4:51] <Wired203> 700 is stock speed
[4:52] <Wired203> clueful could always check the syslog to see if there is a commonality before each lockup as well
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[4:55] <clueful> its currently using a fuji film 4GB class 6 card...doesn't seem to be on the list one way or the other
[4:56] <Wired203> have you checked your syslog?
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[5:00] <clueful> Wired203: I've looked a bit at the logs and haven't really figured much out...it'd be a bit easier if they were in local time
[5:00] <Wired203> is your pi networked?
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[5:01] <Wired203> nm you ssh into it =P install a ntp client
[5:02] <Wired203> and just set the timezone, now the time can come unsynched after some time but better than the pi just making up some time
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[5:04] <clueful> wired203: I thought I might have done that
[5:05] <clueful> there is definitely an ntpd in the clientlist
[5:05] <clueful> in the log file I mean
[5:05] <Wired203> is it setting the time correctly?
[5:07] <clueful> wired203: if I type date I get the right time but if I look in the sysfile its not (it might be GMT or something)
[5:08] <Wired203> possible
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[5:13] <Wired203> heh shipment must of come in, ebay is stocked again
[5:14] <des2> Who's stocked with what ?
[5:15] <Wired203> ebay has a ton of pi's for sale again
[5:15] <clueful> what are the next most common problems after power?
[5:15] <Wired203> clueful depends what are you running on the pi
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[5:19] <Wired203> also what's the amperage of your power supply?
[5:21] <clueful> Wired203: I've tried a bunch of them currently its a 5V 1A spec'd camera charger, I also tried a powered USB hub with the BC 1.1 spec that people claimed on amazon to have had success with
[5:21] <Wired203> what usb are you using?
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[5:23] <clueful> not sure I understand the question?
[5:23] <Wired203> what usb devices do you have connected
[5:24] <yeik> clueful, I would check out power drain, bad usb devices, cables
[5:24] <clueful> currently nothing...though I hope to use it as a NAS so there will either be a usb hub or an ext hdd
[5:24] <yeik> hmm... pi for a NAS... :S
[5:24] <Wired203> which os are you running and what software are you running
[5:25] <clueful> raspian
[5:25] <clueful> running owncloud and samba
[5:25] <Wired203> a few people have used pi for a nas, freenas is a good solution though
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[5:25] <Wired203> just take a old pc, usb drive to boot from, jam every loose hard drive you have around and tada nas
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[5:25] * chupacabra is gonna win one at SXSW
[5:25] <yeik> Wired203, it would just be very slow and limited. don't think it would be good at raiding drives together either.
[5:26] * yeik nods
[5:26] <yeik> hopefully with gigabit and sata ports like crazy
[5:26] <Wired203> it's not gonna raid well at all, freenas is a great solution though
[5:26] <yeik> and LOTS of memory, depending on the fs
[5:27] <Wired203> cept my freenas box got me bent with no power saving, and having to turn it on and off etc so I bought a netgear nv+ instead
[5:27] <yeik> yeah, power is an issue.
[5:27] <clueful> well mainly I wanted to play with the rpi and I've been wanting to set up a NAS for the house so I figured I'd give it a shot...it doesn't need to perform super well just fast enough to stream video...
[5:28] <Wired203> streaming video actually is performing well lol
[5:28] <Wired203> well depending on the file size etc
[5:28] <yeik> streaming blu-ray
[5:29] <Wired203> that's not gonna happen lol
[5:29] <yeik> yeah.
[5:29] <Wired203> well let me take that back
[5:29] <clueful> so far its been an incredibly frustrating experience....I'm really disappointed with it...
[5:29] <Wired203> if you overclock the pi to 2ghz using liquid nitrogen thennnnnn
[5:29] <yeik> someone asked me if it the pi could do 3d. wasn't sure if they meant 3d rendering or just 3d streaming...
[5:29] <chupacabra> take it easy
[5:30] <yeik> clueful, so the only thing plugged in to the pi, network cable and power?
[5:30] <Wired203> I'm sure they mean 3d and tell them to install quake
[5:30] <clueful> yeah currently
[5:30] <yeik> clueful, same cables? or have you tried different ones?
[5:30] <Wired203> are you using a current image?
[5:30] <Wired203> did you update the firmware, software?
[5:31] * yeik took a picture of it 2 minutes ago
[5:31] <yeik> is that current enough?
[5:31] <Wired203> sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[5:31] <clueful> yeik I've tried different ones, I did notice that I got a 5-10mV less drop using a different cable so I switched to that one
[5:31] <clueful> hasn't made a difference yet
[5:31] <clueful> right now it's behaving itself somewhat ok its been up for about 1:20
[5:31] <clueful> 1hr 20 min
[5:31] <yeik> clueful, how long does it stay up without issue?
[5:31] <clueful> I do that everytime and I also setup the rpi-update
[5:32] <clueful> yeik sometimes only a few minutes sometimes a few hours
[5:32] <Wired203> well they say if it stays up for more than 4 hours you should call your dr
[5:32] <Wired203> yeah rpi-update is the firmware
[5:32] <chupacabra> lol
[5:32] <clueful> when I have the hdd attached I'll try to copy some videos over to it and it hasn't made it through yet (2-3hrs of sustained copying)
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[5:32] <yeik> clueful, tried it without the network? is it even attached to a screen? do you have a screen that accepts hdmi or the spdif?
[5:33] <clueful> yeik: I have attached it to a screen before it works, but it would still crash reasonably frequently
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[5:33] <yeik> i noticed i had mine plugged in, and the keyboard and mouse stopped working at one point. didn't really trouble shoot it much just powered it off and back on.
[5:34] <clueful> I did have some issues with weird keybd / mouse stuff when I was using a wireless one but I used wired ones without problems
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[5:34] <yeik> but it did the same thing without them ever connected
[5:34] <Wired203> 2-3 hours is a hard stream
[5:35] <Wired203> sure your not overheating?
[5:35] <Wired203> and I would assume that's through a powered hub, is it one that back feeds power or doesn't back feed power?
[5:35] <clueful> wired203: I'm not sure...but I'd hope not...the hdd should be doing the hard work
[5:35] <clueful> I tried it both ways
[5:36] <Wired203> ethernet connected?
[5:36] <clueful> yeah
[5:37] <Wired203> ftp transfer or web?
[5:39] <clueful> samba
[5:40] <Wired203> so smb network share
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[5:42] <Wired203> hrmm I should make a drink, on call this weekend so I have to top off the tank before then lol
[5:42] <RiXtEr> clueful, whats going on with your samba? (i know a bit about that software)
[5:42] <yeik> RiXtEr, his pi is powering off on him. suddenly and won't respond
[5:43] <RiXtEr> ugh... that sounds not good...
[5:43] <Wired203> not powering off but locking up
[5:43] <yeik> trying to eliminate possibilities and find out what he is doing when it happens.
[5:43] <yeik> all lights except power go off
[5:44] <RiXtEr> hrm so it enters like a different init level?
[5:44] <Wired203> I'll bet he forgot to click his heels together 3 times and say there's no place like pi
[5:44] <RiXtEr> Wired203, that is important...
[5:44] <Wired203> possible it becomes unresponsive
[5:45] <RiXtEr> well.. on certain init (single user mode) it turns off a bunch of things...
[5:45] <yeik> yeah, it doesn't mean its powering off, but that is indicative of powering off, or locking up. usually lights stay on though in case of lockup
[5:45] <Wired203> I'm tempted to buy another sd card with my wireless adapter hehe
[5:46] <RiXtEr> it'd almost be worth running a cron job every 2 mins and seeing if it still works when everything is off....
[5:46] <Wired203> true and he is using ethernet so if locked up the link light would stay lit
[5:46] <RiXtEr> yeik, if you run 'halt' as root on your pi, it turns off all light except power
[5:47] <Wired203> yeah I halt to shutdown
[5:47] <RiXtEr> +1
[5:47] <yeik> RiXtEr, yes i am sure it does. but the question is more why is it doing that.
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[5:47] <RiXtEr> that is the question... :)
[5:48] <RiXtEr> so my random guess would be, bad chunk on the sdcard causing a kernel panic
[5:48] <RiXtEr> (again completely random guess)
[5:48] <RiXtEr> kernel panic often will turn off all the lights.
[5:48] <clueful> I do have another card...I can't find it though...
[5:49] <yeik> clueful, you have a usb drive?
[5:49] <RiXtEr> (on regular linux distros, I am assuming the pi would do the same, though I haven't been fortunate enough to cause a kernel panic yet)
[5:49] <Wired203> he has a usb hard drive
[5:49] <RiXtEr> yeik, can you boot from usb?
[5:49] <yeik> RiXtEr, you can change boot from sd to usb.
[5:49] <Wired203> he could do the small install to start boot from sd, finish booting from usb hard drive, set it up and go
[5:50] * yeik nods at Wired203
[5:50] <chupacabra> redo that card
[5:50] <chupacabra> cards are easy to save
[5:50] <Wired203> I research before hitting irc on any subject so I don't look toooooo stupid lol
[5:51] <chupacabra> i love broken sd cards.
[5:51] <yeik> Wired203, didn't help much
[5:51] <RiXtEr> Wired203, whats up?
[5:51] <Wired203> it took a few o's off of the tooooooo
[5:51] <Wired203> relaxing and reading about a different wireless card as the one I bought while a supported chipset has issues
[5:52] <RiXtEr> Wired203, ah, linux doesn't play nice with all wifi usb adapters ;)
[5:52] <yeik> adafruit has some good ones
[5:53] <yeik> that are supported
[5:53] <yeik> i had one wireless usb device i had to compile the drivers for
[5:53] <Wired203> it was linux compatible and came with the driver only for i386 tho
[5:53] <yeik> unfortuneately it overheated a lot.
[5:53] <RiXtEr> Wired203, you may be able to wrap it, not tried on a pie, but on 'regular' computers it works.
[5:53] <Wired203> rtl8192u
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[5:53] <Wired203> erm cu
[5:54] <Wired203> so supported chipset, it will load, it goes as far as getting a scan and identifying networks but won't connect
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[5:54] <clueful> got disconnected
[5:55] <Wired203> so I figure screw it, 5 bucks for a adapter that should do well for my htpc rebuild
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[5:55] <Wired203> now to buy a real raspberry pi approved wifi lol
[5:57] <RiXtEr> Wired203, have a look at http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?t=94495&f=53
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[5:58] <Wired203> hrmm interesting tempting
[5:58] <Wired203> so you basically call the windows driver from within linux
[5:58] <yeik> will that work on arm?
[5:59] <clueful> would having it in a slightly warmer area (closet) make it overheat?
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[5:59] <yeik> clueful, you have an IR thermometer?
[5:59] <Wired203> yeik dunno thing is the driver works mostly
[5:59] <clueful> just one for babies but I doubt it goes that low
[6:00] <Scriven> Wired203, I'm using that wifi driver quite well for non-roaming connection.
[6:00] <RiXtEr> yeik, I'd assume it'd work for arm... not 100% sure.
[6:00] <yeik> low? you mean high? should be about 70 degrees celcius
[6:00] <Wired203> well it detects the usb, loads driver, shows in wpa_gui and scans, connect though hrmmm get the dreaded association to the driver failed message
[6:01] <yeik> RiXtEr, completely different architecture, i imagine a driver blob wouldn't be cross compatible. but i haven't tested it.
[6:01] <clueful> yeik, I meant as low as the room temperature,
[6:01] <Scriven> Wired203, have you tried command-line? Not that it should matter, but it may
[6:02] <RiXtEr> yeik, hrm. I haven't tried it either... but I'd bet ndis is common enough to be cross compatible
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[6:02] <clueful> the internal sensor reads 46C (which is obviously hotter than baby temp)
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[6:02] <Wired203> scriven yes last night I posted a paste bin too
[6:02] <yeik> clueful, i would worry more about the pi temp than the room temp
[6:02] <Wired203> I'm thinking a silly adapter
[6:03] <Wired203> running a 1a power supply and even connected a 2a supply so input voltage was plenty and it draws like 120ma
[6:03] <Scriven> Wired203, could be. I found mine very power sensitive, it was the one I had no luck with if plugged into the wrong port of the powered hub.
[6:03] <Scriven> It works OK direct into pi tho.
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[6:04] <yeik> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=10397
[6:04] <yeik> according to posts there, different arch and ndiswrapper won't work
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[6:06] <yeik> anyway. bed time
[6:06] <yeik> good luck clueful
[6:06] <Wired203> night
[6:06] <Scriven> Wired203, did you try plugging it directly into one port of pi? I can help w/ basic command-line setup if you want to test.
[6:06] <RiXtEr> yeik, thanks
[6:06] <RiXtEr> yeik, good night
[6:06] <yeik> Wired203, i would stay away from anything that might require ndiswrapper
[6:06] <yeik> RiXtEr, thanks for what?
[6:06] <RiXtEr> that link... I didn't fully understand that
[6:06] <RiXtEr> I mean I do now.
[6:07] <Wired203> I already have that but I want another one lol
[6:07] <yeik> ahh ok.
[6:07] <Wired203> Scriven was always direct to the pi
[6:07] <Scriven> Ah, shouldn't be power issue for sure then.
[6:07] <Wired203> and I did the command-line setup and even opened up the guest access
[6:07] <Scriven> could be you got a lemon. Dunno why you'd open up guest access tho.
[6:08] <Wired203> so the portion of my router I was trying to connect to was basically unsecured
[6:08] <Scriven> 4 lines in /etc/network/interfaces is all thats necessary.
[6:08] <Scriven> OIC, ok. guest access on router so no password, got it.
[6:08] <Wired203> guest access allows anyone to connect, then password on a webpage to get access
[6:08] <Wired203> since I was testing the actual connection
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[6:09] <Wired203> then to determine if it was perhaps a signal issue due to range I setup adhoc on my netbook and tried to connect to that, eliminated router issue and range issue there
[6:09] <Wired203> and yes the adapter does work well 2 different win7 machines, driver auto loads, disable internet adapter and use that one and it works quick and nice
[6:10] <Scriven> very strange.
[6:10] <Scriven> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:8176 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8188CUS 802.11n WLAN Adapter
[6:10] <Scriven> that's mine.
[6:10] <Wired203> befuddled lol and saying screw it, 5 bucks it can go to my htpc build which will be regular debian i386 and then for my pi perhaps just a rated one
[6:11] <Wired203> mine shows basically the same
[6:11] <Scriven> other than trying to figure out wpa-roaming command-line setup, it works fine. I can hardcode my settings and it's golden.
[6:11] <Wired203> wpa-roaming is the wpa_supplicant.conf file
[6:11] <Scriven> yeah, theoretically. lol
[6:11] <Wired203> nah it's not that bad lol
[6:11] <Scriven> I've done dozens of different versions, none of which work.
[6:11] <ParkerR> Scriven, Yeah I have the same chipset. I have a couple of network in wpa_supplicant.conf and then networking looks at the wpa file
[6:11] <Scriven> been trying ALL day.
[6:11] <ParkerR> *networks
[6:12] <Scriven> yup, that's what I've tried ALL DAY.
[6:12] <Wired203> not enough booze then
[6:12] <Scriven> various permutations and combinations. About to pull my das;lkdfja;sdlkfj hair out.
[6:12] <Scriven> ParkerR, can you share a working setup (redacted of private crap of course)?
[6:13] <ParkerR> Yeah one sec
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[6:13] <Scriven> am connected to the poor thing via wired right now, want to fix that. lol
[6:17] <Scriven> Wired203, not enouh of something that's for sure.
[6:17] <Wired203> lol
[6:18] <Wired203> are you double quoting your password?
[6:18] <Scriven> I figured it'll be a little 30 minute tweak. Read a few how-tos, setup some files, no worries.
[6:18] <Scriven> password is hashed in wpa_supplicant.conf file
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[6:18] <Scriven> in interfaces file, yes I'm " and it's working ok. ;)
[6:18] <Wired203> so your using the hash
[6:18] <ParkerR> Scriven, http://pastebin.com/QCSppF2W
[6:18] <Wired203> so double quote it
[6:18] <Scriven> just tried to double-quote the hash, and it failed.
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[6:20] <Wired203> what security are you using wpa?
[6:20] <ParkerR> Wired203, The security one is my school network
[6:20] <ParkerR> Uses PEAP
[6:20] <Wired203> his lower setting with proto=RSN is wpa
[6:21] <Wired203> I have read too much about wpa_supplicant lately sigh
[6:22] <ParkerR> So that tries for the open linksys first then if that isn't available goes to the next network
[6:22] * Scriven bangs head against wall.
[6:22] <Scriven> tried w/ password hashed and not.
[6:24] <Wired203> could always just create 2 different interface files and rename as needed lol
[6:24] <Scriven> I'm testing it with this, ParkerR: sudo wpa_supplicant -B -Dwext -iwlan0 -c /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf -dd
[6:24] <Scriven> but always fails the same.
[6:25] <ParkerR> Scriven, Let networking manage wpa_supplicant. Kill that process then sudo service networking restart
[6:26] <Scriven> as I'm logged in via ssh, that may not be wise. lol
[6:26] <Scriven> I'll try, can always reconnect or move to the head.
[6:26] <Scriven> boom. ;)
[6:28] <ParkerR> Heh
[6:29] <Wired203> he fall down go boom
[6:30] <Scriven> nope.
[6:30] <Scriven> ioctl errors that all my searching say are 'annoying but not fatal', and no dice.
[6:31] <ParkerR> On a side note: http://i.snag.gy/nVbO1.jpg
[6:31] <ParkerR> Scriven, So your /etc/networking/interfaces looks like mine?
[6:31] <ParkerR> That shuld be aout the same
[6:31] <ParkerR> *should
[6:32] <ParkerR> *about
[6:33] <Scriven> MAN is ssh persistent about it's, well, persistence! kept me connected, even sent an 'enter'
[6:33] <ParkerR> Scriven, Also when testing the line I used is sudo wpa_supplicant -Dwext -iwlan0 -c/etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[6:33] <Scriven> the -dd is just more debugging stuff.
[6:33] <Scriven> so basically the same.
[6:33] <ParkerR> What about -B?
[6:33] <Scriven> er, yeah, just noticed the -B.
[6:34] <Scriven> ah, background the daemon.
[6:34] <ParkerR> Ahh
[6:34] <ParkerR> That would have made my testing easier XD
[6:34] <Wired203> you have demons oh wait you said daemon
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[6:35] <SgrA> GPIO 4 could clock up to 3.2 MHz.
[6:35] <Wired203> hrmmm about 14 bucks for a guarenteed adapter
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[6:38] <Scriven> one of my neighbours has the SSID "Gangnam Style"... *sigh*
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[6:39] <Wired203> now you know where to go for your illicit drugs lol
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[6:41] <Scriven> hrm... that was different. I took out all the proto/etc stuff, and left only SSID and PSK as hash...
[6:41] <Scriven> So ParkerR, when I test with your line what's supposed to happen?
[6:41] <ParkerR> Scriven, No error messages XD
[6:42] <SwK> Scriven: atleast is not harlem shake
[6:42] <Wired203> joo getz interwebz
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[6:43] <Scriven> BLAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[6:43] <Scriven> "wlan0: WPA: IE in 3/4 msg does not match with IE in Beacon/ProbeResp"
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[6:43] <Scriven> same error w/ both hashed and not. key is correct.
[6:44] <clueful> as anyone seen this error before:
[6:44] <clueful> http://pastebin.com/QGuxsEe0
[6:44] <Wired203> no monitor?
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[6:46] <Wired203> clueful I clicked the link twice so yes I have now seen this error before lol
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[6:47] <clueful> wired203 :)
[6:48] <clueful> I googled it of course but only found one or two mentions of it
[6:49] <Wired203> conflict of some sort
[6:49] <SwK> clueful: have other USB devices plugged in?
[6:49] <clueful> are there known quality control issues with the boards (i.e. can they behave differently under the same conditions (power supply, cables, etc.?) could I have gotten a lemon
[6:49] <clueful> no
[6:49] <clueful> swk: zero usb devices plugged
[6:49] <Wired203> so princess lea AND hans solo are coming back yayyyy
[6:49] <clueful> just internet
[6:49] <clueful> ethernet
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[6:49] <Wired203> clueful of course there can be bad boards =P
[6:50] <SwK> clueful: you could try dwc_otg.speed=1 in the /boot/cmdline.txt see if that helps but it could just be a lemon or some other issue
[6:52] <Wired203> seems to be people talking about "noise"
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[6:53] <Wired203> kernel issue clue
[6:54] <Wired203> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/183
[6:54] <Wired203> turn off turbo mode to aliviate the errors aparently
[6:56] <Wired203> they have aparently been working the kernel to remove that error, so update to latest kernel, then disable turbo mode and see if you stay connected
[6:56] <clueful> wired203: I had turbo mode disabled
[6:56] <clueful> I just updated to the latest kernel and also tried SwK's suggestion so we'll see if any of it helps
[6:57] <Wired203> kernel error
[6:57] <Wired203> please try again in 2 months lol
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[6:58] <clueful> though in truth given that I don't have any usb devices connected you'd think it wouldn't be the dwc_otg.speed=1 issue
[6:58] <Wired203> yes and no
[6:58] <Wired203> your ethernet is connected via the usb
[6:59] <Wired203> hence why you see it when you lsusb
[7:00] <clueful> so this is a really bad solution then because it means that the drives and ethernet will both go slow
[7:01] <SwK> clueful: i have to use that on several of my pi's or usb audio is utterly crap
[7:01] <Wired203> well it seems to have been introduced in more current kernels so you have a few options
[7:01] <Wired203> try an older image and don't update it, or perhaps try arch
[7:01] <Wired203> you don't have to use wheezy
[7:02] <Wired203> heck you can install android =P
[7:02] <clueful> now ethernet won't come up at all
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[7:02] <Wired203> dhcp or static?
[7:03] <clueful> the lights aren't even coming on
[7:03] <clueful> I'm going to sleep
[7:04] <Wired203> night
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[7:06] <clueful> good night and thanks for trying to help...
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[7:41] <Scriven> ARGH!
[7:43] <Scriven> Oh this is SO FRUSTRATING. Why does it work manually, but not with wpa_supplicant!?!?!?!
[7:43] <Scriven> "WPA: IE in 3/4 msg does not match with IE in Beacon/ProbeResp" FTL!
[7:43] <Scriven> and yes I've double-checked my authentication, nothing seems to be correct.
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[7:50] <Scriven> s/nothing/everything/
[7:50] <Scriven> lol
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[7:56] <steve_rox2> i never could get wifi going on the default pi os
[7:56] <steve_rox2> managed it on xbmc tho
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[7:59] <Scriven> Oh I have wifi going just fine...
[8:00] <Scriven> so long as I hardcode everything into /etc/network/interfaces
[8:00] <Scriven> I'm trying to get wpa_supplicant going so I can roam easier.
[8:00] <Scriven> and it's just not working.
[8:00] <Scriven> that's why I'm so frustrated, cause I KNOW the hardware works, and the driver works... but NOT with wpa_supplicant.
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[8:13] <steve_rox> whenever i used the wpa supplicant i get permision denied etc etc
[8:14] <steve_rox> lucky im using cabled network but if i wana use pi anywhere else i guess im screwed
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[8:19] <steve_rox> now im wondering if theres any way to change res without rebooting , i found one solution for hdmi but not composite video
[8:19] <SwK> Scriven: did you do the silly thing where you hash the keys and such for wpa_supplicant?
[8:20] <SwK> steve_rox: for X?
[8:20] <SwK> whats the key sequence shift ctrl backspace to force X to restart
[8:21] <steve_rox> i have no idea
[8:21] <Viper-7> SwK: thats an extra combo some distros add, its not part of X itself
[8:21] <Scriven> SwK, yes
[8:21] <steve_rox> and i mean res as a global value not just within x
[8:21] <Viper-7> i think raspbian has it tho
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[8:21] <Scriven> SwK, but have tried hashed and plaintext.
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[8:22] <steve_rox> if i could learn how to connect using pure shell commands maybe id be okay
[8:22] <SwK> Viper-7: on the X thing I think i saw a setting for that in one of the config tools on raspbian
[8:23] <Scriven> wlan0: WPA: IE in 3/4 msg does not match with IE in Beacon/ProbeResp (src=xx:xx...... )
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[8:23] <Scriven> SwK, that's the error I'm gettin w/ wpa_supplicant. But works just fine hardcoded into interfaces
[8:24] <SwK> yeah I havent seen that one
[8:24] <SwK> Scriven: i was just taking a shot in the dark on it
[8:25] <Scriven> This is drivin me (more) insane.
[8:25] <SwK> the edimax wifi mini dongles I use dont give me any problems at all (with my airport extreme for an AP/Router)
[8:25] <Scriven> wpa_supplicant roaming?
[8:25] <SwK> i dont think so
[8:26] <Scriven> I'm having no problems with normal setup... I didn't really think wpa_supplicant was that strange a setup tho to be honest.
[8:27] <Scriven> Readin the search results I'm getting hits from years ago.
[8:27] <Scriven> nothing recent
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[10:51] <Wessix> hi guys, is it allowed to ask hardware wuestion here?
[10:51] <jelly1> just ask
[10:52] <Wessix> ok, i've installed a raspbian wheezy on my pi model B Rev1
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[10:53] <Wessix> and set up a webserver and proxy on it and probably importend set up moederate overclockin in the setup script
[10:53] <Wessix> everything ran fine on this pi
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[10:54] <Wessix> yesterday my model B rev 2 with 512 MB arrived an i took the SD from the old one to the new one
[10:54] <Wessix> he started an everything was ok
[10:55] <Wessix> then i started some stress tests for the webserver, and the new py got unresponsive
[10:55] <jelly1> cool
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[10:55] <Wessix> i plugged out the power suppy an plugged it back in
[10:55] <Wessix> and the py didn't boot up anymore
[10:56] <Wessix> red led is steady red, and the green flashes very short when powering the pi
[10:56] <Wessix> i measered the f3 polyfuse as described here
[10:56] <Wessix> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Troubleshooting_power_problems
[10:57] <Wessix> and outcoming voltage when powered is >5V
[10:57] <Wessix> so did i kill the new one with the taken overclocking settings from the rev1 pi?
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[10:58] <Wessix> and i should tell that the testing was not longer then some minutes
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[11:00] <SStrife> remove and re-insert the SD card a few times
[11:00] <Wessix> the SD got corrupted, if i put it into my old one i get a kernel panic
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[11:00] <SStrife> if you nudge it.....
[11:00] <SStrife> well there you go!
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[11:01] <SStrife> i was gonna say, if you nudge it while plugging/unplugging stuff, it might come out of contact on one or more pins
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[11:02] <Wessix> but when i boot up the new pi with another sd with a working raspbian he also doesn't boot
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[11:09] <ryanteck> reflash the sd card?
[11:09] <Wessix> yes i'll do that
[11:09] <Wessix> but whats with the ne pi
[11:09] <Wessix> new
[11:10] <ryanteck> well if the sd card / cards are corrupted then you need to reflash them
[11:10] <Wessix> yes but i have others with working systems
[11:10] <Wessix> and the new pi doesn't boot with them wither
[11:10] <Wessix> either
[11:11] <ryanteck> So you have two Pi (rev 1 and rev 2 512MB)) and 2 SD cards?
[11:12] <Wessix> yes
[11:12] <Wessix> 4 or 5 sd cards
[11:12] <Wessix> and 4 pis
[11:12] <ryanteck> all with the OS on?
[11:12] <Wessix> all with raspbian on yes
[11:12] <ryanteck> all I can think is put the latest version of Raspbian on one, and then try that in all your Pi
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[11:15] <Wessix> ok and then ? i assume that in my other pi's it'll work
[11:15] <ryanteck> the one card should work in all of them
[11:16] <ryanteck> then by testing it in all you can tell if its the Pi or the SD card
[11:16] <ryanteck> remember to shutdown using sudo halt
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[11:18] <Wessix> ok, i will do this, but i'm not seing the point , if i already have SD cards working in my other pi's and not in the new Rev2 i probably blewe in some way?
[11:19] <Wessix> the one that got corrupted worked in the new one
[11:19] <ryanteck> Try one of the other SD cards which are working in the rev 2
[11:19] <Wessix> i did
[11:19] <ryanteck> When abouts did you last flash the card?
[11:19] <Wessix> not booting
[11:19] <Redex> whats the diference between sudo halt and sudo shutdown 0 -h that i have come to use ?
[11:19] <ryanteck> if they were before Rev 2 you need the latest operating system
[11:20] <ryanteck> redex I don't believe there is a difference. Some people just find Sudo Halt easier to remember I think.
[11:20] <ryanteck> yeh wessix are you able to find out how old the image is on the SD cards?
[11:20] <Wessix> ok, then the one that git corrupted was rathe new
[11:20] <Wessix> wait
[11:21] <Wessix> 09.02.2013
[11:21] <ryanteck> hmm, that one should work fine I think
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[11:22] <Wessix> do i have to run the "setup" thing again when switched?
[11:23] <ryanteck> Shouldn't have to
[11:23] <ryanteck> I switch between my rev 2 and my rev 1s
[11:23] <Wessix> ok so probably it got killed
[11:24] <Wessix> by the overclocking settings?
[11:24] <Wessix> but only hat moederate
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[11:24] <Wessix> 900Mhz
[11:24] <ryanteck> shouldn't have if you overclocked using the setup
[11:24] <Wessix> only unsing setup
[11:24] <Redex> whats thevoltage ?
[11:24] <Wessix> you give me hope
[11:24] <ryanteck> Wessix is it brand new? If it is it could be a faulty Pi
[11:25] <Redex> >5 by very much ?
[11:25] <ryanteck> What voltage? The voltage the Pi runs at?
[11:26] <Wessix> 5
[11:26] <Wessix> at the output side of the f3 fuse
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[11:27] <ryanteck> what about between TP1 and TP2
[11:28] <Redex> sory thought u said across test points it was >5 at the beginning
[11:29] <Redex> as ryanteck what is it across tp
[11:29] <Wessix> yes measered again now my multimeter shows 5.0
[11:29] <ryanteck> Voltage is fine
[11:29] <Wessix> should i measure with sd in or not, i measerud without
[11:30] <ryanteck> With everything needed to run it plugged in
[11:31] <Redex> could amps be too low or high at pwr source assuming it might be a diferrent source to your other pis?
[11:32] <Wessix> as power source i use now my pc usb
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[11:33] <Wessix> with hdmi and sd card connected inside is about 5.0 to 5.1
[11:33] <Wessix> outgoing the same
[11:34] <Wessix> 5,09
[11:35] <Wessix> resistance is around 0,3
[11:35] <Wessix> when everything plugged off
[11:35] <Redex> dunno i would suggest not using usb , going headless see if it boots try sshing
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[11:36] <Wessix> don't have something connected on usb
[11:36] <Wessix> only usb power sourec
[11:38] <Redex> are tou taking power from the wal or another pc ?
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[11:38] <Wessix> my Desktop pc
[11:38] <Wessix> what is wal, wall?
[11:39] <Redex> wall yes !
[11:39] <Wessix> tested both
[11:40] <Redex> k
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[11:40] <Wessix> but with the other pi's i figured out that my pc usb is a good power supply
[11:40] <Wessix> even when attaching more usb peripherials to the pi
[11:41] <Redex> no harm trying i guess but i understand i might be unreliable source
[11:41] <Redex> how about wihout hdmi then
[11:42] <Wessix> same
[11:42] <Wessix> only redlight
[11:43] <Redex> :-(
[11:43] <ryanteck> Completely forgot I had this open sorry
[11:44] <Wessix> i also tried connecting to my tv with chinch
[11:44] <Wessix> same
[11:44] <ryanteck> hmm, does the SD card socket look all ok?
[11:46] <Wessix> looks ok, but wait
[11:48] <Wessix> http://www.myimg.de/?img=IMG714464a64.jpg
[11:49] <ryanteck> I would guess so
[11:49] <ryanteck> Quick question, is it a UK or China one?
[11:49] <Wessix> RS
[11:50] <Wessix> ordered from Germany
[11:50] <Wessix> so i guess UK
[11:50] <Wessix> i paid the UK price and bought from official Home page
[11:50] <Wessix> can you get chinese ones over her?
[11:50] <ryanteck> Does it have on the front made in UK or made in China
[11:51] <ryanteck> You can get both, I think you have more chance of UK ones from Element 14 / Newark / RS Components
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[11:51] <Wessix> well it's brandnew
[11:51] <Wessix> ordered last week or the week before
[11:51] <Wessix> oh no
[11:51] <mike_t> I think it's China. UK is red
[11:51] <Wessix> on the top
[11:52] <Wessix> there is written made in china
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[11:52] <ryanteck> No?
[11:52] <ThJ> Hi
[11:52] <ryanteck> mike_t if it was made in china and sold over here it says Made In China on the front of it
[11:52] <ryanteck> mike_t if it was the ones designed to be sold in china easier it is red as it hasn't got the CE / FCC mark testing
[11:52] <Wessix> yes theres a label made in china
[11:53] <Wessix> but it has the CE and FCC mark
[11:53] <ryanteck> wessix I think you may be worth contacting RS components about it, I found my first Rev 2 Made in china had a bad USB & Lan chip
[11:54] <Wessix> ok, and how is it about the overclocking?
[11:54] <Wessix> as i said only did it with the official install tool
[11:55] <Wessix> and yust set it to moderate
[11:56] <ryanteck> should be perfectly fine as it was done with the raspi-config tool
[11:57] <Wessix> ok then i even could use a normal return? as i'm inside the 14 days turnback period
[11:57] <Wessix> we have in germany
[11:58] <Wessix> ryanteck, you said "should be perfectly fine as it was done with the raspi-config tool"
[11:58] <ryanteck> I beleive so
[11:58] <Wessix> on wich information you "refer" on
[11:58] <Wessix> just not want to cheat anyone
[11:59] <Wessix> if it was my fault then it is
[11:59] <ryanteck> The warranty is only void if you manually overclock it by editing the file yourself
[11:59] <Wessix> if not
[11:59] <ryanteck> you used the raspi-config tool which is allowed
[11:59] <ryanteck> without voiding warrenty
[11:59] <Wessix> i will return the pi and ask for a new one
[11:59] <Wessix> ok is this written somewhere?
[12:00] <chithead> yes, on elinux wiki it is documented which settings void warranty and which ones don't
[12:00] <chithead> also the foundation published a statement on raspberrypi.org
[12:01] <Wessix> do you perhaps have link?
[12:02] <Wessix> found it
[12:04] <chithead> well it is very much near the top of the google results for "raspberry pi overclock warranty" :)
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[12:09] <RoyK> hm... seems I missed resizing the root after installation - how can I do that later?
[12:09] <double-you> oh my.. deleting 10000 files from a ntfs volume takes about 2 hours
[12:09] <jelly1> lovely fuse :)
[12:10] <RoyK> hehe
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[12:10] <ryanteck> royk type sudo raspi-config to get the install screen up again
[12:10] <RoyK> thanks
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[12:13] <Jck_true> double-you: Try delete from a 5 year old USB flash drive... then we are talking a decade...
[12:13] <double-you> it's a hard disk...
[12:14] <ryanteck> Sata or IDE?
[12:14] <double-you> usb
[12:14] <double-you> connected to the pi
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[12:17] <Wessix> sorry i accidently quit irc
[12:17] <Wessix> i wanna thank you for your help
[12:17] <Wessix> its great to have people care about "problems" of strangers
[12:18] <Wessix> in my case i'll contact RS
[12:18] <Wessix> and ask for a replacement
[12:19] <Wessix> ryantec, thx for you're patience
[12:19] <Wessix> chithead, thx for the hint with the warrabty
[12:20] <Wessix> one last question, i have another model B rev2 not opende yet
[12:20] <Wessix> shall i go the same way or shall i stay away from overclocking with the official tool?
[12:22] <StMichel> I'd say if overclocking within announced limits harms the unit, then its faulty anyway.
[12:22] <StMichel> So if you think you need to enhance speed, go for it.
[12:22] <Wessix> well wanna use it as small webserver and it worked quite well
[12:23] <Wessix> untill it blew :-)
[12:23] <Wessix> or better ;-(
[12:24] <StMichel> Yep, you just request for replacement. I have no experience on that but would wonder if it would be any issue since it is rather clear to me that the unit you got was not working as intended, whatever the fault might be.
[12:25] <Wessix> well perhaps someone of you uses pound reverse proxy?
[12:26] <JamesHarrison> I've been using varnish for years, though not on the Pi (though it's very light on CPU and there's sufficient RAM on the Pi for most workloads)
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[12:27] <Wessix> is it easy to configure?
[12:27] <Wessix> i'm not the best in such things
[12:27] <Wessix> and can you limit the amount of possible requests ?
[12:28] <Wessix> that was what i was testing when the py broke, used ab to open many connections
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[12:36] <JamesHarrison> if you're using apache you're gonna have a bad time
[12:36] <JamesHarrison> if you want it to handle many connections
[12:37] <JamesHarrison> I'd strongly recommend you look at nginx and pair it with php-fpm if you need PHP (or other third-party app server as appropriate for other langs)
[12:37] <JamesHarrison> nginx has a much smaller footprint in terms of memory and CPU usage and it doesn't scale up with number of connections serviced by any meaningful amount
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[12:42] <Wessix> ok, but in aocahe i found i can limit the possible subprocesses
[12:42] <Wessix> and if the website will get 20 visitors a day it will be much
[12:42] <Wessix> but i'll take a look
[12:43] <Wessix> does wordpress run fine with nginx/php-fpm?
[12:43] <nid0> apache works fine on the pi
[12:43] <nid0> and if you're running a heavily dynamic site, there's very little benefit to using nginx over apache
[12:43] <Wessix> first tried lighttpd but had some issues there
[12:43] <Wessix> ok, so apache with limiting subrocesses to 20 should do a nice job?
[12:44] <adeus> yes wordpress works with php-fpm
[12:44] <nid0> fwiw, http://www.ratherdisturbing.co.uk/ is wordpress running from my pi via apache + varnish
[12:46] <Wessix> ok
[12:46] <Wessix> i know it runs had this
[12:46] <Wessix> but yours seem to respond faster
[12:46] <Wessix> then mine did
[12:46] <Wessix> so perhaps i should have a look on varnish
[12:46] <nid0> mine is *very* heavily optimised in a lot of ways
[12:47] <Wessix> do you have an easy understandable tut on configuring varnish
[12:47] <Wessix> i only need the prox for dividing calls on two diffrent domain names
[12:47] <nid0> if you're only going to be getting a smaller number of hits, varnish is largely un-needed on a pi
[12:48] <nid0> it makes little difference to raw speed over a heavily cached non varnish install, it mainly helps maintain speed with high numbers of concurrent requests
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[12:49] <Wessix> well problem for me is i have two webservers both needing to run on port 80
[12:49] <Wessix> need
[12:49] <Coffe> Wessix: in same apache ?
[12:49] <Wessix> no
[12:49] <Wessix> one on raspberry pi on on NAS
[12:50] <nid0> well, yeah you do need a proxy then
[12:50] <Wessix> in same LAN
[12:50] <Wessix> so is used pound to divide the calls
[12:50] <Coffe> what you could do .. is use like pound and it supports loadbalnceing wtih hostname support
[12:50] <nid0> varnish can do that, move both webservers to a different port, set varnish up on 80, and have it hook into both backends
[12:50] <Coffe> so depending on req host it would forward to the rignt server.
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[12:50] <Wessix> yes
[12:50] <Wessix> i did that with pound
[12:51] <Wessix> my initial questuion was
[12:51] <Wessix> if i can limit the amound of processes pound will take
[12:51] <Wessix> like in apache conf
[12:52] <Coffe> i think so .. havent been doing anything with pound for some time .. but i think you can have it with a minimal footprint
[12:52] <Wessix> so that someone starts 1000requests my pi don't get over"powered"
[12:52] <nid0> yes, just set maxclients
[12:52] <Coffe> but i where thinking i would if i where you .. use apache proxy module ..
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[12:53] <Wessix> ok, is thit possible with my diffrent webservers?
[12:53] <Wessix> problem is, that my NAS Webserver does not run 24/7
[12:53] <Wessix> otherwise i would have run the proxy on it cause it has much more power
[12:54] <Wessix> can i run this apache proxy module on the pi, and it fowards the traffic meant to reach my NAS webserver?
[13:03] <Wessix> ok i'll read about that
[13:05] <Coffe> Wessix: yes
[13:05] <Coffe> and you can have it redirect traffic if nas webserver is not running
[13:06] <Wessix> not necessary just need to hava a general splitting of two domains
[13:06] <Wessix> if NAS is off one domain should not be reachable
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[13:12] <Coffe> it where FYI
[13:13] <Wessix> FYI?
[13:13] <Wessix> sorry i'm no native english speaker
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[13:18] <Wessix> ok for information
[13:18] <Wessix> ok thx
[13:18] <Wessix> i have to leave now
[13:18] <Wessix> bye
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[13:22] <Datalink> is it bad that I look at this and think "why not use xming for the X11 instead of a VNC?" http://www.technolabsz.com/2013/03/how-to-easily-install-opencv-on.html
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[13:27] <ivotkl> Hello, BRB.
[13:29] <jelly1> Datalink: horrible guide
[13:33] <Datalink> yeah
[13:34] <adeus> I stopped reading when it started installin synaptic for no reason
[13:34] <adeus> +g
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[13:35] <Datalink> yeah aptitude does wondersfrom command line
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[13:40] <Coffe> apitude ? apt-get ftw
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[13:46] <RoyK>
[13:47] <martk100> I am trying to install tslib on Archlinux. Exactly what syntax do I use for ./configure phase of compilation? The only package I could find was source code meant for x86 devices.
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[13:47] <sidh> Greetings
[13:47] <jelly1> martk100: you use AUR
[13:47] <sidh> on a R-pi when we don't have HDMI TV , how can we have good level of sound (it seems with jack output , sound is very low) ?
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[13:48] <Maior> sidh: powered speakers
[13:49] <martk100> jelly1: Unfortunately the configure.ac file needs to be modified. to allow compilation on Rpi. Using Aur via PKGBUILD and MAKEPKG does not work.
[13:49] <jelly1> martk100: why not
[13:49] <sidh> ok, and that would be enough for playing music or video on a DVI LCD screen ?
[13:50] <Maior> sidh: what you plug into the screen is unrelated
[13:50] <Maior> (though HDMI audio ftw)
[13:52] <sidh> yes but as I use hdmi2dvi adapter , maybe the htpc distro could think I will use a hdmi screen and doesn't redirect audio through jack
[13:52] <martk100> jelly1: Because some parts of the configure.ac file do not work with the Rpi. The error is simple to correct in a text editor but running MAKEPKG after modifying overwrites the mods.
[13:53] <sidh> ("could think" is not appropriate though)
[13:53] <Datalink> sidh, you can change the target of the audio server though I personally forget how, by default it goes through HDMI if it detects HDMI on boot
[13:53] <sidh> ah ok , great point
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[13:55] <Datalink> I had to do it for a friend who has an HDMI projector that has no audio out and just this tiny annoying speaker... but XBMC has an option in it's preferences (it was the XBMC distro as this was to be a media center system)
[13:56] <Datalink> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting#Sound would be my suggestion, as I'm not personally fluent in the config needed, it'll also go through some tests to help you
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[14:09] <sidh> Datalink: I have a good usb sound card I used to use, but it seems I can't use it on R-pi as alsa is not implemented on R-pi htpc distro
[14:10] <sidh> Datalink: thanks for the info
[14:11] <Datalink> sidh, why do you want to use a USB soundcard, that actually slows down the sound channel dramatically, USB requires the CPU to hand data off along a slower bus than it's internal soundcards (HDMI and the headphone port)
[14:11] <mjr> presumably to get better quality than the internal line out
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[14:18] <StMichel> yep, that sucks
[14:19] <Grievre> oh wow now my OTHER pi gets stuck on boot
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[14:19] <Grievre> I thought I had zapped the other one
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[14:19] <Datalink> I can't find how big the broadcom's DAC is for the TRS port
[14:19] <sidh> Datalink: because the usb sound card handle 5.1 speakers kit
[14:20] <sidh> and has optical outpout
[14:20] <Grievre> Pretty sure the "dac" is actually just PWM
[14:20] <Grievre> through some analog filtering
[14:20] <sidh> but it seems not suited for a R-pi
[14:20] <Grievre> you shouldn't use it, split off the HDMI out
[14:21] <sidh> Grievre: I didn't know it was possible
[14:21] <Datalink> sidh, ah, okay, yeah, you're gonna wanna probably get an HDMI audio out of some sort, and avoid analog or USB for decent audio, since that'll avoid the Pi's weaker hardware (the DAC and forcing the audio through the CPU draining USB bus)
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[14:22] <Datalink> http://www.amazon.com/ViewHD-Analog-Converter-Digital-Extractor/dp/B008LOIKX6/ref=pd_sim_e_3 though you will want to hunt around for better options, this is just an example item
[14:26] <sidh> ok then I would put the hdmi2dvi adapter on this converter I assume
[14:27] <StMichel> Anyway, how's that I2S thing going? Wasn't one supposed to be able to hook a DAC to it (when someone has written some drivers etc.)?
[14:27] <Datalink> yeah, RPi -> HDMI2HDMI+Audio -> HDMI DVI adaptor -> TV
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[14:27] <Datalink> I wouldn't know, I haven't looked at the display or camera busses, theoretically should be able to but withotu breakouts I don't want to try
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[14:31] <sidh> Datalink: Grievre thanks for the info
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[14:32] <Datalink> np, there are 5.1 capable HDMI audio splitters too, as well as ones with optical, pick the one you wat, though it probably won't be specifically cheap either (I know that's often a concern for Pi owners
[14:32] <Datalink> hell, I rarely look into the expensive options myself
[14:33] <ivotkl> Datalink: If you have the Pi connected to an HDTV you may wanna buy speakers and connect them to the rear of the TV.
[14:33] <ivotkl> Oh, was answer for sidh?
[14:33] <ivotkl> sidh: If you have the Pi connected to an HDTV you may wanna buy speakers and connect them to the rear of the TV.
[14:33] <Datalink> ivotkl, it was for sidh, I'm alright with my audio setup, I just use it for YT and Pandora anyway
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[14:37] <Grievre> will config.txt still parse correctly if I've edited it in windows?
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[14:37] <Nik05> depends with what you edited it
[14:38] <sidh> ivotkl: I have for the moment a logitech 5.1 powered speaker kit (3 jack) and a terratec 5.1 usb sound card (not compatible with R-pi), and a DVI lcd screen
[14:39] <sidh> so I will look for a splitter Datalink shew
[14:39] <sidh> Grievre: use notepadd++ and use unix line feed
[14:40] <Datalink> glad we could help
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[14:41] <Grievre> okay wow um
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[14:41] <ivotkl> sidh: Oh, ok.
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[14:41] <Grievre> even with a brand new raspbian image, BOTH of my raspberry pis get to the point where they would normally mount the filesystems
[14:41] <Grievre> and then they just stop
[14:42] <Grievre> maybe the SD card is toast
[14:42] <ivotkl> Grievre: Could be...
[14:43] <ivotkl> I was able to boot it at my parents home with my mobile phone's microSD card + SD adapter. Kingston branded.
[14:43] <double-you> I tested 3 different setting up lighttpd and php instruction and none of them worked (500 - Internal Server Error). is there any working instruction?
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[14:44] <Datalink> double-you, a 500 error is a sign there is a configuration issue, any config file you've edited could be a possible source, but there should be error logs in /var/logs if you haven't changed the location, that'll help you narrow down where the problem is
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[14:46] <double-you> the lighttpd error log is empty
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[14:47] <Datalink> is there a PHP error log?
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[14:49] <double-you> no
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[14:54] <double-you> oh
[14:55] <double-you> it seems like this one worked: http://frustrateditengineer.wordpress.com/2012/10/21/how-to-setup-a-webserver-with-php-on-raspberry-pi/
[14:56] <Coffe> would not apt-get install apache2 php libapache2-mod-php5 do it ?
[14:59] <double-you> I wanted to use a light webserver and lighttpd was already installed
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[15:18] <devswap> my raspberry pi has lots of failed items when doing an apt-get update - can anyone help solve this
[15:19] <chithead> a pastebin tells more than 1000 words
[15:19] <devswap> chithead: was that directed to me
[15:19] <Maior> devswap: it was; pastebin some output
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[15:20] <nunne> Anyone have any experience with the GPIO-pins? Trying to just make a simple close circruit to see if it's closed or not.. and I can't wrap my head around it :/
[15:20] <chithead> devswap: failure during apt-get update can be due to signature problems, internet connection trouble or many other things. the exact output will help in determining the cause
[15:20] <Maior> nunne: yes; do you have a more specific question
[15:21] <nunne> first i thought i could just connect 3.3v -switch- GPIO-PIN .. but that didn't work (always false). So i tried 3.3v - switch - GPIO-PIN + GROUND . but then it just reboots..
[15:21] <nunne> is it because I don't have any resistance before GROUND? (I have seen people using that in examples).
[15:22] <Maior> nunne: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pull-up_resistor
[15:22] <devswap> chithead: these are the errors - I presume its an outdated repo list http://pastebin.com/uNCzXpV8
[15:23] <Datalink> nunne, you do need resistors, without them you're shorting the pins, which is dangerous
[15:23] <chithead> are you using debian? raspbian?
[15:23] <chithead> anyway it seems that archive.qmh-project.org is down
[15:23] <nunne> Datalink, Maior: thanks. I will presume this is my error then and go and buy a resistor :P
[15:23] <devswap> chithead: debian
[15:24] <devswap> chithead: I have been getting the same thing for weeks - do i need to update the server list?
[15:24] <Datalink> resistors are just good to have, grab a pack of 1/4 watt resistors of various values and a breadboard :D
[15:24] <nunne> How many amps does the 3.3v output? I mean, how big should my resistor be :P
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[15:24] <chithead> devswap: you will have to ask the people running archive.qmh-project.org or switch to another server
[15:25] <Datalink> er, not watt, amp, 1/4 should do it for data line
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[15:25] <mgottschlag> nunne: do you know ohms lay?
[15:25] <mgottschlag> *law
[15:25] <devswap> chithead: i didnt consciously pick a server when i setup my pi - are they the defaults?
[15:25] <nunne> mgottschlag: yeah
[15:26] <Maior> devswap: those are the defaults iirc, and I'd recommend upgrading to Raspbian
[15:26] <Datalink> nunne, https://www.adafruit.com/products/955 look at the parts in this pack, what you don't have, get, though the wires can be subsituted with a spool of solid wire and a wire stripper (I have spools of 3 colors)
[15:27] <mgottschlag> nunne: so just make some low current value up and choose the resistor accordingly
[15:27] <devswap> maior: has the debian project been binned for raspberry pi or do you just think raspian is better?
[15:27] <mgottschlag> but what you want probably is a pullup (or pulldown), those are usually in the area of 1-10 kOhm
[15:27] <chithead> you are using an official debian ftp server, but additionally the "qmh-project" one which is probably an addition from whoever made the debian image that you used for installation
[15:28] <nunne> 10K ohms it is.. thanks guys :)
[15:28] <mgottschlag> nunne: also, the reboot is happening of course because you have a short circuit between 3.3V and GND
[15:28] <Datalink> as I mentioned, shorts like that are dangerous, as they will damage the GPIO pins and possibly other parts of the CPU
[15:30] <Maior> devswap: basically it *is* better; doing fp in hardware ftw
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[15:30] <Maior> devswap: (and approximately "Debian on the Pi" -> softfp, Raspbian is hardfp
[15:30] <Maior> )
[15:30] <devswap> so faster?
[15:30] <Maior> devswap: yes
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[15:31] <devswap> ok thanks
[15:31] <chithead> raspbian is the distro that is recommended by the rpi foundation
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[15:31] <nunne> Datalink: I can imagine it being a bit dangerous.. luckily they don't cost to much ;) but it works still.. so will go and get a 10kohm resistor :P
[15:32] <Maior> I've used myself as a pull up resistor (with moderate success) before
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[15:34] <Datalink> nunne, they're hard to get at times, thus my concern, get 2 resistors, or more, you need one between the button and ground and one to the same pin to 3.3 volts as a pullup
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[15:34] <Datalink> Maior, that's only reasonable if you're not following heartpath... better to use a resistor made for it
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[15:38] <nimmis|work> till petter http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2659058/using-regex-to-add-leading-zeroes
[15:38] <nimmis|work> sry wrong chat
[15:39] <Datalink> happens
[15:40] <Maior> Datalink: well yes, I thoroughly recommend using something actually made for the job, but in a pinch...
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[15:41] <nunne> Datalink: shoouldn't be a problem. my company is almost next door to another company that sells electronic components :)
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[15:41] <Datalink> nunne, get 2, 10K for pullup/pulldown, and 470 for the button itself
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[15:43] <Datalink> ground -> button -> 470 -> common spot -> GPIO pin, 3.3v -> 10K -> common spot -> GPIO pin
[15:43] <Datalink> the 470 is in series, and prevents shorting, the 10K is parallel to the 470 and the button then
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[15:44] <nunne> ok thanks! i will get a bunch. less than 0,5usd a pop
[15:44] <Datalink> yeah, they're worth having in bulk
[15:45] <Datalink> my stock's horridly short at 10
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[16:22] <arcanescu> well I did a chmod 755 on my my www directory now the pages are all funny, any reason why this has happened?
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[16:26] <nid0> "all funny" how?
[16:26] <RaTTuS|BIG> ^ you will need to nobble all the directories
[16:27] <arcanescu> nid0: the graphics on my pages disappeared for starters
[16:28] <RaTTuS|BIG> 755 is not what you wanted to do
[16:28] <nid0> setting 755 on the www dir shouldnt affect anything unless you're trying to write from your code, are you sure you didnt set it recursively?
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[16:29] <arcanescu> i did
[16:29] <arcanescu> nid0: i did a chmod -R 755
[16:30] <nid0> oops
[16:30] <arcanescu> anyway to undo or go back?
[16:30] <nid0> find /var/www -type f -exec chmod 644 {} \;
[16:31] <arcanescu> nope
[16:31] <nid0> is your content publicly visible?
[16:31] <arcanescu> yes it is
[16:32] <arcanescu> shouldnt i chmod -R 644 /srv/www?
[16:32] <nid0> well /var/www is where the www folder usually is, obviously modify that to wherever your www folder is
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[16:33] <arcanescu> nid0: yea i did for the above command you gave,but that didnt do anything
[16:33] <nid0> and the obvious followup is, whats the address of your content so I can see it
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[16:33] <RaTTuS|BIG> find /path/to/base/dir -type d -exec chmod 755 {} +
[16:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> umm
[16:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> not sure
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[16:34] <arcanescu> hmmm
[16:35] <RaTTuS|BIG> easy answer - got back to your backup and check the differance ...
[16:36] <arcanescu> yea just ttrying that now
[16:38] <NullMoogleCable> :-D
[16:38] <NullMoogleCable> I have the best use of a Pi yet!
[16:39] <RaTTuS|BIG> go on
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[16:39] <NullMoogleCable> pi + screen door + white fitted bedsheet + projector + minecraft server ssh connection
[16:39] <NullMoogleCable> http://wtfmoogle.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/DSC00283.jpg
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[16:44] <Datalink> NullMoogleCable, why not just run the projector straight from the Pi?
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[16:45] <Datalink> or does your projector do that funky VGA plug thingie?
[16:45] <Datalink> (sarcasm folks, sarcasm...)
[16:45] <Datalink> NullMoogleCable, also, which server?
[16:46] <NullMoogleCable> my minecraft servers :) play.wickedcraft.net and mc.rageserver.net
[16:47] <Datalink> NullMoogleCable, expect to see icebrodie on those... I'm always looking for places open to let me do way too much redstone wiring
[16:47] <NullMoogleCable> :)
[16:48] * Datalink adds those two to the vanilla setup...
[16:48] <Datalink> also I'll have to drag you onto my tekkit lite server later, to show you crazy stuff I've been doing
[16:48] <NullMoogleCable> I just opened up a new map on wicked. designed built and planned for 9 months, tons of custom plugins, debugging and building
[16:49] <Datalink> nice
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[16:49] <Datalink> I need to get public server tools, then have some fun in MCEdit
[16:49] * Datalink reformats a 2GB SD card for Pi to mess around with at work
[16:50] <Datalink> I'm guessing yours are both vanilla?
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[16:50] <NullMoogleCable> bukkit
[16:50] <Datalink> plugin vanilla, okay...
[16:51] <NullMoogleCable> rage is hard core pvp, griefing, townywar
[16:51] <Datalink> I will likely stay away from rage then, I'm a builder not a destroyer
[16:51] <NullMoogleCable> wicked it the oposite, pure survival, towny, non pvp , player run econo
[16:51] <Datalink> heh, I engineer for a living, not sure how I'd fit in on either XD
[16:52] <Datalink> I may as well look at wicked though
[16:53] <NullMoogleCable> both servers are linked with a hub system so you can enjoy them all without logging out
[16:53] <Datalink> ah okay, cool
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[16:55] <Datalink> I'm using tekkit lite and I'm working on a computer, I think I've mentioned this in channels you're in NullMoogleCable
[16:56] <Datalink> I have to AFK for now though
[16:57] <Datalink> be back in... I'd say a few hours to half a day or so :/
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[17:01] <ivotkl> Gotta rush guys. See you later. It's been a lpeasure as always. =)
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[17:01] <ivotkl> Gotta rush guys. See you later. It's been a pleasure as always. =)
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[17:34] <Grievre> So yeah turns out that you can't use both I2C buses at once
[17:34] <Grievre> for whatever reason, writing data out one causes garbage to appear on the other
[17:35] <Grievre> (this was tested with nothing connected to either I2C bus)
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[18:07] <djazz> eh, something in a recent upgrade broke pifm :/ (on arch atleast)
[18:08] <djazz> now I only hear a single sine/square wave tone
[18:09] <djazz> i was playing with pifm during the upgrade, and it just stopped working
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[18:09] <djazz> it was upgrading linux-headers-raspberrypi
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[18:11] <djazz> i guess some mem address changed?
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[18:13] <Maior> turn it off and on again
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[18:14] <djazz> Maior: i had the same problem with a more up to date arch
[18:15] <djazz> on another sd card
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[18:16] <djazz> Maior: huh, yeah now it works
[18:16] <djazz> :s
[18:16] <djazz> why dont it work on my other arch
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[18:57] * RoyK is trying to use the pi with galicaster for streaming and it may perhaps even work ;)
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[19:09] <FR^2> RoyK: self-compiled, I guess? ^^
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[19:11] <RoyK> FR^2: not much to compile - it's python
[19:11] <RoyK> uses gstreamer
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[19:28] <KittenV23> Hey all, I got my PI yesterday, and I'm having some trouble setting it up. I used berryboot and set things up ok with a composite video output, but now my HDMI cable is here and I have an old tv... and no output. I've googled about the issue, and it's probably that my tv is so old. I don't know how to make berryboot do the hdmi_safe=1 ... any help?
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[19:30] <IT_Sean> Isn't that option in the config file?
[19:30] <IT_Sean> you should be able to edit it manually
[19:31] <IT_Sean> I've never used berryboot, so...
[19:31] <IT_Sean> Why are you using berryboot? got multiple OSes on one card or something?
[19:32] <KittenV23> IT_Sean yeah, I wanted to try out a few OSes. I just I think found that I could edit the berryboot config.txt
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[19:33] <revererndp> in't the config file for video output accessed before any of that stuff?
[19:33] <KittenV23> But I'm not sure that the changes to berryboot will carry over...
[19:35] <KittenV23> I'm going to give these edits a try, thx
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[19:47] <scriptor> hey guys, I'm using raspbian on my pi
[19:47] <scriptor> it seems rather slow, like starting IDLE takes a while and dragging a window is very jagged
[19:47] <scriptor> is this expected?
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[19:49] <ExeciN> I am trying to follow this guide ( http://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-5-using-a-console-cable/software-installation-mac ) but the driver mentioned does not seem to work. I couldn't find the appropriate pipe in /dev
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[19:56] <lastebil> did you grab the lion version? (chances are the other is a ppc binary, based on the screenshot)
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[19:57] <ExeciN> lastebil: Yes I used the lion version
[19:58] <lastebil> ok. well, I googled a bit about it, and found this: http://changux.co/osx-installer-to-pl2303-serial-usb-on-osx-lio
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[19:58] <lastebil> the pl2303 serial thing is a project from sourceforge, and he says there he was unable to get it to work on lion, so he provided that link.
[19:59] <Kane> o/
[19:59] <ExeciN> lastebil: I think this is the same file, but I'll try it anyway
[19:59] <lastebil> try running that command he suggests: kextstat -b nl.bjaelectronics.driver.PL2303
[19:59] <lastebil> it will say if your kernel exten(sion/der) is loaded.
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[20:03] <ExeciN> the driver is loaded for about half a minute after the installation
[20:04] <lastebil> ... ok, then - check your console.app - somewhere in one of the logfiles it must be saying something about why it's taking it away.
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[20:06] <lastebil> heh, they're using the serial functionality of screen as the terminal emulator. I've done that (:
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[20:08] <trurl> Hi
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[20:09] <ExeciN> when installing the driver I get this kind of output: http://pastebin.com/rABvDs0m
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[20:11] <trurl> I'd like to use a DS1307 as a RTC on my Raspberry Pi. I once made a small circuit for an Arduino i like to "recycle". It's running on 5V and there are some pull up resistors (10k) connecting PWM, SCL and SDA to 5V. Do i have to alter this circuit?
[20:13] <pksato> Yes. need to remove 5V pull-up resistors. and pull-up to 3v3 (I dont know if rpi provide these).
[20:13] <pksato> or, use some level converter.
[20:14] <trurl> "google" saysThis is the scematic: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ck6sjw539gkwxhv/DS1307RTC.GIF?m
[20:14] <trurl> s/\"google\" says\/
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[20:17] <pksato> check DS1307 datasheet to se how to interface with different levels.
[20:17] <RoyK> are those gpio ports somewhat protected, or are they just vulnerable cmos gates? as in - should I use buffers/gates with them, or can I just connect something?
[20:17] <trurl> pksato: the results (are there 3v3 pus on rpi) are inconsistent
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[20:20] <pksato> SDA, SLC and Pulse output are open drain.
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[20:20] <pksato> pull up to 3.3V.
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[20:22] <Duality> gues what
[20:22] <Duality> i got an image
[20:22] <Duality> on a viewfinder from a really really old cam
[20:22] <Duality> :P
[20:22] <trurl> pksato: so it should be safe (if there are pus on the rpi)?
[20:23] <pksato> trurl: I think so.
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[20:24] <pksato> But, I never used I2C. only know some theory about.
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[20:25] <pksato> as, I2C lines are open colector/drain.
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[20:37] <passstab> anyone here serve tinytiny RSS on the pi?
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[20:39] <lastebil> ExeciN: right, it appears that for some reason that it's asking your machine to create it's kernel extension cache, but your system doesn't actually own your root filesystem. this should never happen.
[20:40] <lastebil> do an ls -la / and see who does own your root filesystem.
[20:41] <lastebil> (chances are a reboot will fix this, but you should also see what else might be wrong. do you have java enabled in your browser, by chance?)
[20:42] <ExeciN> lastebil: yes
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[20:43] <Muzer> bees
[20:43] <pronto> http://i.imgur.com/LpJv9G3.jpg http://i.imgur.com/UjDQ1Ip.jpg so the other day i found some photo negitive on the ground, sadly nothing interesting :(
[20:43] <pronto> err, wrong chanel D:
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[20:45] <ExeciN> lastebil: Does java have something to do with this problem or you just asked by curiosity?
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[20:46] <lastebil> ExeciN: no, just that recently there have been various "rootkits" left around the web by nasty people; and these use java (and other things) to infiltrate unsuspecting people's computers
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[20:47] <lastebil> seeing as how I can't think of any "normal" software that would change your system to not let root write to it - I'm just wondering if maybe something got to you.
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[20:47] <lastebil> it can happen, unfortunately. Not saying it did, just you should check.
[20:48] * lastebil had to deal with a customer today who's website had been "infiltrated" by one of these nasty types, and help clean up the damage.
[20:49] <ExeciN> as it seems, there are no ownership anomalies http://pastebin.com/dXVQEkZc
[20:49] <lastebil> no, that's wrong - nicexe should not own /
[20:50] <lastebil> ok - I _think_ you can correct this from the "fix hd permissions" tool
[20:50] <lastebil> that should be on your 'emergency boot' thing that you get when you hold down "alt" on boot
[20:50] <lastebil> maybe it's called 'fix user permissions' - I forget. Let me google
[20:50] <Muzer> bees
[20:51] <ExeciN> its repair disk permissions found on disk utility
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[20:53] <lastebil> ok. it may not need a reboot, per what I am reading on apple's site, but you should check as well - I'm not at an apple machine right now.
[20:53] <lastebil> hmm that's for lion, are you using mountain lion?
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[20:54] <ExeciN> lastebil: yes I am on Mountain Lion
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[20:55] <lastebil> ok. I'm really not sure about this, to be honest, most of what I'm reading about the tool indicates that it no longer will check /
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[20:58] <Muzer> bees
[20:59] <lastebil> ExeciN: ok well, the solution would be to do "sudo chown root:admin /" BUT
[20:59] <lastebil> that still doesn't say how your / got the wrong permissions in the first place.
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[21:00] <lastebil> so the immediate solution is to change the owner of / back to root:admin
[21:00] <lastebil> install your serial driver again
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[21:00] <lastebil> and then you should be able to move on with your adafruit stuff.
[21:01] <lastebil> BUT. You should also check the machine for "strange stuff" just to be sure. Not saying you have any, just that under normal, everyday use, you will never have / owned by anything but the root user, because root needs to be able to write to things like the kext folder - and it can't, as you see.
[21:01] <lastebil> so just saying "do a good, thorough check of things."
[21:02] <ExeciN> hmm I think shouldn't do that while I am using the system. I am booting from the recovery partition and repairing the permissions from there
[21:02] <lastebil> I agree, that's a good idea.
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[21:05] <Muzer> bees
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[21:10] <dwatkins> byebye
[21:13] <Muzer> bees
[21:18] <ExeciN> still nothing
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[21:20] <Muzer> bees
[21:20] <ExeciN> this time no permission errors http://pastebin.com/MepZNJgN
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[21:27] <Muzer> apologies for that, I left my computer unlocked in a robotics meeting while I was out like a moron.
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[21:36] <trurl> errr... wheres GPIO0 and GPIO1 on revision 000e
[21:36] <trurl> ?
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[21:44] <ShiftPlusOne> gpio1 is pin 12 on the header
[21:45] <ShiftPlusOne> and gpio0, if I understand it correctly used to be there on rev1 but was switched for gpio1 on rev2
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[21:47] <trurl> ShiftPlusOne: okay, let me ask diferent: wheres SDA and SCL?
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[21:49] <ShiftPlusOne> gpio2 and 3 I beleive. Pins 3 and 5 on the header.
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[21:49] <ShiftPlusOne> http://elinux.org/Rpi_Low-level_peripherals
[21:51] <ShiftPlusOne> oh and I was wrong about gpio0 and gpio1, those stay on pins 11 and 2 and are not changed in different revisions.
[21:51] <ShiftPlusOne> *11 and 12
[21:51] <Grievre> trurl: keep in mind that on revision 2, the I2C that's on the GPIO is i2c-1, not i2c-0
[21:52] <Grievre> so if you have code that is old you have to change that part
[21:53] <trurl> I have a RTC module in front of me. 5V and GND connected (pin 2 and pin 9) -> OK
[21:54] <trurl> SDA and SCL connected (pin 3 and pin 5 ?) -> rpi doesnt boot
[21:54] <Grievre> er
[21:54] <ShiftPlusOne> is the logic of the rtc module 5v? O_o
[21:54] <Grievre> which RTC module?
[21:55] <trurl> DS1307
[21:55] <trurl> ShiftPlusOne: yes
[21:55] <ShiftPlusOne> pi logic is 3.3v
[21:55] <Grievre> trurl: the adafruit one?
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[21:56] <Grievre> or the sparkfun one?
[21:56] <trurl> Grievre: no, selfmade
[21:56] <trurl> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ck6sjw539gkwxhv/DS1307RTC.GIF?m
[21:57] <trurl> those resistors are removed
[21:57] <trurl> R1-3
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[21:57] <ShiftPlusOne> pretty sure that if you haven't borked your pi, you're lucky
[21:58] <Grievre> If the pullup resistors aren't there you should be fine
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[21:58] <trurl> Grievre: i cut them myself ;)
[21:58] <Grievre> the pullup resistors would be the only things causing SDA/SCL to go up to 5V
[21:58] <ShiftPlusOne> ah
[21:58] <keen_commander> hi all
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[21:59] <ShiftPlusOne> hello
[21:59] <Grievre> trurl: hm, are you sure you're not accidentally connecting SDA/SCL to the PWM pin?
[21:59] <Grievre> trurl: When you say raspberry pi "doesn't boot" what do you get on the screen?
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[22:01] <keen_commander> hello ShiftPlusOne
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[22:03] <trurl> Grievre: i have no screen
[22:03] <IT_Sean> what LEDs are on?
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[22:04] <trurl> rpi boots without x, im using ssh
[22:04] <trurl> IT_Sean: Power
[22:04] <Grievre> trurl: Well that makes it difficult to tell what's wrong
[22:04] <trurl> Grievre: you maybe onto something there... (pwm)
[22:04] <trurl> i need a pencil ;)
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[22:05] <trurl> \o/ booting
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[22:08] <trurl> okay, PEBKAC pin was connected, thanks guys and gals
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[22:19] <steve_rox> is there a short cut key combination to force reboot? my pi appears to have ground to a halt with limited responsive
[22:20] <swart> sudo reboot
[22:20] <swart> if you can't type, cycle the power
[22:20] <steve_rox> does not respond
[22:20] <steve_rox> im trying to avoid damaged files
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[22:21] <steve_rox> i told it sudo reboot its just halted while trying to process it
[22:21] <swart> are you connected via ssh?
[22:21] <steve_rox> yea
[22:21] <steve_rox> but its sorta non responsive
[22:21] <steve_rox> i cant ctrl+C break out
[22:21] <swart> well if you submitted the command already go have a coffee and check again later
[22:21] <steve_rox> i dont like coffie
[22:21] <steve_rox> :-P
[22:21] <swart> hmm. I see your problem
[22:22] <steve_rox> hahaha
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[22:22] <steve_rox> guess ill pull its power and hope it still boots
[22:22] <swart> what were you doing to make it so slow?
[22:23] <steve_rox> erm most tasking thing was using omxplayer
[22:23] <steve_rox> and wget
[22:23] <steve_rox> apart from that nothing
[22:24] <steve_rox> reload complete
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[22:24] <steve_rox> thanks for your attempted help anyways :-)
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[22:25] <Kaco> evening guys
[22:26] <Kaco> just a quick question regarding raspberry pi
[22:26] <Kaco> does the onboard GPU support OpenGL ES 1.1 or also 2.0 ?
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[22:31] <mjr> both
[22:31] <trurl> [ 118.302106] i2c i2c-1: new_device: Instantiated device ds1307 at 0x68
[22:31] <trurl> awesome
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[22:34] <Kaco> even better! :)
[22:34] <Kaco> thanks mjr
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[22:46] <steve_rox> anyone know how to change vid res without reboot for composite not hdmi ?
[22:48] <steve_rox> maybe it cant be done who knows
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[22:50] <steve_rox> says here that the foundations website was bombed by ddos
[22:50] <steve_rox> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/03/06/raspberry_pi_ddos/
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[22:51] <steve_rox> i guess intel were upset that more pi's sold than its werid little device etc
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[22:53] <malcom2073> Would've been funny, if it would've been mostly Pi's doing the attack
[22:53] <steve_rox> says something simular in that websites comments
[22:54] <netw1z> anyone successfully using a 32 GB card?
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[23:06] <Encrypt> Hi everybody !
[23:06] <Encrypt> There's no /dev/usb on Raspbian ?
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[23:09] <linuxstb> /dev/bus/usb ?
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[23:11] <Encrypt> linuxstb, Okay...
[23:12] * Grievre (~Grievre@173-164-183-149-SFBA.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) Quit ()
[23:12] <Encrypt> linuxstb, I'm trying to redirect a printer which has no driver for ARM
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[23:12] <Encrypt> So I thought that mounting the remote file pointing on the USB device could work...
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[23:13] <Encrypt> If I create a symbolic link...
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[23:14] <linuxstb> No, I don't think it works like that. So you have a printer physically connected to the Pi, and you want to access it from elsewhere?
[23:15] <Encrypt> Yes
[23:15] <linuxstb> You could try something like http://usbip.sourceforge.net/
[23:15] <Encrypt> But without any ARM Driver
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[23:15] <Encrypt> I used USB Redirector for a while... when suddenly the kernel changed
[23:15] <Encrypt> And now it doesn't work
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[23:16] <Encrypt> I also didn't get usbip working... :(
[23:16] <Encrypt> Too hard
[23:16] <Encrypt> Althought I tried the solutions given on the internet, using compilation
[23:16] <linuxstb> Then buy a usb extension cable ;)
[23:16] <linuxstb> (or move your printer)
[23:16] <Encrypt> linuxstb, What do you think about giving my idea a try ?
[23:16] <Encrypt> linuxstb, Ya :??
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[23:17] <steve_rox> usb over ip sounds handy
[23:17] <steve_rox> if it can be setup
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[23:18] <chithead> usbip is trivial to set up
[23:19] <Viper-7> ^
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[23:20] <chithead> most distros come already with the required kernel modules and have packaged the userspace tools
[23:20] <Viper-7> there was an article recently about a guy setting up usbip from the pi to a windows VM, to use his 3d printer
[23:20] <Viper-7> but the last guy that linked it here got banned without warning, because the article contained a swear word
[23:20] <Viper-7> so you`ll have to google that if you want it :P
[23:20] <steve_rox> heh charming
[23:21] <Viper-7> to sum it up tho, its all quite straight forward
[23:21] <steve_rox> in theory
[23:21] <Viper-7> well it was in practice for him
[23:21] <Viper-7> havent tried it myself yet
[23:22] <Viper-7> the biggest issues come from isochronous devices
[23:22] <Viper-7> but they mostly work now
[23:22] <ShiftPlusOne> http://shackspace.de/wiki/doku.php?id=berries#usbip
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[23:23] <Viper-7> theres a usbip package in the raspbian repo
[23:23] <ShiftPlusOne> (warning, some profanity)
[23:23] <Viper-7> none of that should be required these days
[23:23] <chithead> that link got the last dude banned
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[23:23] <ShiftPlusOne> no, it was a different link
[23:23] <Viper-7> ^
[23:24] <steve_rox> wonder what the motive was for ddos bombing the pi website
[23:24] <steve_rox> senceless destruction i spose
[23:24] <Viper-7> the net needs a reason? probably just for the lulz
[23:24] <KiltedPi> Fame?
[23:24] <KiltedPi> Hey gais.
[23:25] <ShiftPlusOne> hey
[23:25] <KiltedPi> I've got a nice long URL to post!
[23:25] <steve_rox> who knows
[23:25] <KiltedPi> I'm trying to order a female pin connector for the pi- for a printed PCB, and have an Eagle library for this website:
[23:25] <KiltedPi> http://solutions.3m.com/wps/portal/3M/en_US/Interconnect/Home/Products/ProductCatalog/Catalog/?PC_7_RJH9U5230O73D0ISNF9B3C3SI1000000_nid=XLTK240NB1bePBF9SM2BBQgl
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[23:25] <steve_rox> was expecting longer than that
[23:26] <KiltedPi> Apparently what I need is a 1-pin header-
[23:26] * KiltedPi wants to make a joke about genitalia
[23:26] <KiltedPi> :/
[23:27] <KiltedPi> What am I looking for? A single pin header thingy?
[23:27] <KiltedPi> the name of the connector basically?
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[23:27] * KiltedPi is a total hardware newbie
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[23:28] <KiltedPi> are they 0.1 inch? the pins of the GPIO?
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[23:29] * steve_rox is sleepy
[23:30] <KiltedPi> The support on the forums and things is amazing for software, but lax in hardware hacking I am finding :/
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[23:32] <scriptor> what about mailing lists?
[23:33] <KiltedPi^> scriptor: me?
[23:33] <scriptor> KiltedPi^: yep
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[23:35] <KiltedPi^> Finally dug up the information! WHEW!
[23:35] <KiltedPi^> "0.1 inch (2.54mm) header"
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[23:38] <KiltedPi> Don't know if that got cut off there, heh
[23:39] <KiltedPi> I found out the dimensions of the single pin headers.
[23:39] <KiltedPi> took some digging
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[23:55] <netw1z> oh nice this bluetooth/wifi combo works right out the box
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