#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-03-07

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[0:00] * rolleiflex (~rolleifle@64.124.192.210) Quit (Quit: rolleiflex)
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[0:28] <KameSense> I have USB1 speed on usb devices (flash drive, hdd drive) is that normal ?
[0:28] <KameSense> Timing buffered disk reads: 2 MB in 3.27 seconds = 625.62 kB/sec
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[0:43] <ngc0202> Hey
[0:43] <ngc0202> I've been trying to install this: https://github.com/maxogden/joinopenwifi#joinopenwifi
[0:43] <ngc0202> On my raspi
[0:43] * Spiffy (~Spiffy@unaffiliated/spiffy) Quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
[0:43] * Turingi (~devon@unaffiliated/devon-hillard/x-7250961) Quit (Ping timeout: 245 seconds)
[0:43] <ngc0202> I can't get anything at all to work haha
[0:44] * sjs205 (~sjs205@host86-178-20-194.range86-178.btcentralplus.com) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:45] <ngc0202> can someone provide some assistance?
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[0:59] * wiiguy (~fake@unaffiliated/wiiguy) Quit (Quit: I just broke my connection, but no worries, we can rebuild it. We have the technology.)
[0:59] * chod (~chod@toy-town.demon.co.uk) Quit (Remote host closed the connection)
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[1:03] * AeroNotix (~xeno@abnz120.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) Quit (Quit: Uploading hax.....)
[1:06] * Armand (~martin@87-194-165-154.bethere.co.uk) Quit (Quit: Leaving)
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[1:16] <zleap> hi
[1:16] <zleap> looks like they fixed the ddos then
[1:18] * zleap (~paul@dsl-217-155-46-222.zen.co.uk) Quit (Client Quit)
[1:19] * KiltedPi^ (KiltedPi@host-92-28-171-241.as13285.net) has joined #raspberrypi
[1:20] <ShiftPlusOne> hello
[1:21] <plugwash> hi
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[1:57] * coker89 (~coker89@186-79-160-121.baf.movistar.cl) Quit (Quit: Saliendo)
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[2:43] * Armand (~martin@cpc17-haye16-2-0-cust427.haye.cable.virginmedia.com) Quit (Quit: <Armand> I got promoted to stable but failed to propagate, so I was replaced by an inferior package with much lesser features... but that's enough about my ex. :P)
[2:44] * Cykey (~textual@modemcable119.94-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
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[2:54] <pksato> very quiet here.
[2:54] * `Winslow (~Winslow@unaffiliated/winslow/x-6891340) has joined #raspberrypi
[2:55] <IT_Sean> SHH! Is quiet teim
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[3:02] * KindOne- is now known as KindOne
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[3:07] <Opinie> anyone bought the additional codecs from the Raspberry Pi Store?
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[3:31] <SixtyFold> meh
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[3:32] * ChanServ sets mode +o ReggieUK
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[3:55] * Milos__ is now known as Milos
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[4:05] * Cykey (~textual@modemcable119.94-162-184.mc.videotron.ca) Quit (Quit: Computer has gone to sleep.)
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[4:16] <chupacabra> Grumpy Cat is coming for SXSW
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[4:31] * Out`Of`Control (~Viper@unaffiliated/outofcontrol/x-1373891) Quit (Quit: Free Software, Free Hardware, Free Culture, Free Spectrum)
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[9:50] <SgrA> I need a RTOS on RPi. Can I compile kernel with RTAI and use it with the rest of my system?
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[9:58] <hyppias> if i wanted to use Gnome instead of what?? running now, which package would I need to install?
[10:01] <mgottschlag> gnome 3 won't work according to the internet (resource limitations)
[10:01] <mgottschlag> otherwise http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/1332/how-do-i-install-gdm-on-raspbian
[10:02] <gordonDrogon> SgrA, there's a version of FreeRTOS for the Pi IIRC.
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[10:02] <gordonDrogon> SgrA, however the underlying Pi hardware doesn't really lend itself to 'hard' RT control.
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[10:27] <hyppias> mgottschlag: thnx
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[10:33] <steve_rox> be glad when someone finds a way to interface a mobile phone with a pi for advanced caller filtering
[10:34] <steve_rox> right now its like haveing a email account with no spam filter
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[10:44] <Xark> steve_rox: Getting calls from "Rachael from card services" or something?
[10:45] <steve_rox> some ppi scammers or something
[10:46] <steve_rox> i got to the point i set my mobile on silent and forgot about it :-P
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[11:05] <Wessix> hi, yesterday i asked about pound reverse proxy and apache2
[11:06] <Wessix> in order to limit amount of processes someone told me to set maxclients
[11:06] <Wessix> dor apache2 i've done this
[11:06] <Coffe> Hi Wessix
[11:06] <Wessix> do i also need to do this for pound, and if how, didn't find somethin like maxclients in pound configuration, hi Coffe
[11:07] <Wessix> tested varnish
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[11:07] <Wessix> but did not manage to get it work properly
[11:20] <mike_t> Wessix, why apache? try something easier
[11:21] <Wessix> apache worked the last rimes
[11:21] <Wessix> times
[11:21] <Wessix> with lighttp i had some issues
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[11:23] <CorvusCorax> Hi. I got a raspberryPi with linux on it (debian image) I modified an utility called "gpio" to set the GPIO ports to alternate settings. I set port 14 and 15 to ALT5 which should link them to the ARM's chips full fledged UARTZ. but tghe kernel doesn't give me a serial interface to use that UART. how do i get that enabled?
[11:24] <CorvusCorax> is there a driver for UART1 on the chip, and it just needs to be enabled, or is there no driver for that written yet?
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[11:29] <ShiftPlusOne> It's all there. /dev/ttyAMA0, if I recall correctly.
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[11:31] <CorvusCorax> nah, /dev/ttyAMA0 is the "simple UART" aka UART0 - it has no CTS/RTS and very flaky baud rate control
[11:31] <CorvusCorax> there should be a second UART (UART1)
[11:32] <CorvusCorax> according to the chips specs
[11:32] <Coffe> Wessix: i think it from start only starts 1
[11:32] <ShiftPlusOne> Ah, then you know more than I do
[11:32] <Wessix> pound?
[11:32] <Coffe> Wessix: yes
[11:33] <Wessix> Coffe: when i watched htop
[11:33] <Wessix> when i tested with ab
[11:33] <Wessix> there were many pound processes
[11:33] <Coffe> Wessix: how large test did you run ?
[11:34] <Wessix> to large :-)
[11:34] <Coffe> Wessix: but you like pound to die before its using to many resorces ?
[11:34] <Wessix> it broke my pi :-(
[11:34] <Wessix> yes
[11:34] <Wessix> or not to allow more subprocresses as a defined value
[11:35] <Wessix> ab -c 20 -n 200
[11:35] <Coffe> where it pound or apache that died ?
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[11:35] <mike_t> Wessix with lighttp i had some issues // which?
[11:36] <Wessix> i think it was apache, cause i hadn't set max clients that time
[11:36] <Wessix> mike_t: problems with wordpress
[11:36] <Wessix> i' ve read in the meantime how this can be solved perhaps
[11:36] <Wessix> but as i know it works with apache i'll do so
[11:37] <Wessix> and then when it runs and i have time I#ll setup a second pi with lighttp
[11:37] <Wessix> for testing
[11:37] <mike_t> hm... I don't use wordpress but apache is heavy
[11:37] <Wessix> i know and slow on pu
[11:37] <Wessix> pi
[11:38] <Wessix> but the site gets 10 or 20 visitors a day
[11:38] <Wessix> so no big deal
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[11:39] <mike_t> CorvusCorax, UART0 have got CTS/RTS on P5 and I think RPi have got only one uart
[11:40] <Coffe> you should be able to make apache quite light also .. i think your solution would be to have apache anser 503 if load is to high .. as pound is just a middle layer. and if its slow its due to appache is slow.
[11:41] <Wessix> yes
[11:41] <Wessix> that would be good
[11:41] <Wessix> only wanted to know if i can do such maxclients restrictions with pund to
[11:41] <mike_t> CorvusCorax, oh... UART0 and UART1 on identical pins
[11:41] <Wessix> too
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[11:43] <Coffe> if you turn it down in apache ,, i guess pound will forward that page .. as its just a delivery
[11:43] <Wessix> and this shouldn't use much reasources
[11:44] <Wessix> does apache this 503 site automatic?
[11:44] <Coffe> i think it should when reaching max clients yes
[11:45] <Wessix> do you know what my ab test will show then?
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[11:48] <Coffe> ot should work but responses should be 503. cant do any test right now..
[11:49] <Coffe> in the new world of ipv6 this will not be a problem :P
[11:49] <Wessix> ok
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[11:53] <CorvusCorax> mike_t. Yes, by default GPIO 14 and GPIO15 are in ALT0 setting, linking it to UART0 which is /dev/ttyAMA0. but according to http://lavalink.com/2012/04/more-on-raspberry-pi-serial-ports/ there should be a second UART with considerably better performance, and it can be placed on the very same pins in ALT5 setting
[11:54] <CorvusCorax> I modified this tool: https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/download-and-install/ - to be able to put gpio's into arbitrary ALT settings, but I'm missing a way to actually talk to the second UART
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[11:56] <savagecroc> hey
[11:56] <savagecroc> anyone know if it's possible to get bulk-order discounts on the pi?
[11:58] <ShiftPlusOne> nope, the pi is already minimally priced. You can only save on shipping by ordering in bulk
[11:58] <savagecroc> right
[11:58] <savagecroc> yeah.. i suppose try and avoid taxes et
[11:58] <savagecroc> etc
[11:58] <savagecroc> are there any stats on how powerful the broadcom chip is?
[11:59] <savagecroc> or if the pi's designs are available?
[11:59] <savagecroc> i.e. can we build our on modifications
[11:59] <ShiftPlusOne> the schematics are available, yes
[12:00] <ShiftPlusOne> http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Raspberry-Pi-R2.0-Schematics-Issue2.2_027.pdf
[12:02] <savagecroc> hmm i don't' think that's enough to send to a component manufacturer though
[12:02] <ShiftPlusOne> no, 'course not. You're not going to get that bcm chip
[12:02] <ShiftPlusOne> if you want to build or own pi, for example
[12:03] <ShiftPlusOne> but I am not sure I understand what you want to do exactly
[12:03] <savagecroc> build chips onto the board
[12:03] <savagecroc> without having to build additional plugin minuals
[12:03] <savagecroc> modules*
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[12:06] <savagecroc> bcd is exclusive to rasberri pi?
[12:06] <ShiftPlusOne> no, but they won't sell the chip to individuals
[12:06] <CorvusCorax> you might have to recreate the schematics in a layout program of your choice, and add in the additional chips. wether that actually gets cheaper to manufacture likely depends on how many you need to make. if you need less then 500 its likely cheaper to just build addon modules
[12:06] <savagecroc> oh we'd buy in minimums of 10k
[12:07] <savagecroc> ok... this sounds interestingly doable
[12:07] <ShiftPlusOne> still not sure if broadcom would take you seriously, but you're welcome to try.
[12:07] <savagecroc> we've got a hardware development team of 10 poeple
[12:07] <savagecroc> they'd take us seriously :)
[12:08] <savagecroc> sold 70,000 devices last year
[12:08] <savagecroc> but they are very low powered.. the pi's look like they have lots of grunt
[12:08] <ShiftPlusOne> nice
[12:08] <savagecroc> the possibilities of what you can do with them
[12:08] <savagecroc> .... endless. i'm so used to working with these devices
[12:08] <savagecroc> with such limited capabilities
[12:09] <CorvusCorax> if I may ask, what sort of extra chips are you planning to add ? ;)
[12:09] <savagecroc> yeah sure
[12:09] <savagecroc> ok.. so BTLE / Zigbee / Wifi and TPM
[12:09] <savagecroc> GSM/CDMA/3G/4G
[12:09] <mgottschlag> why would you use the bcm chip though?
[12:09] <savagecroc> + a custom baord for interfaces
[12:10] <mgottschlag> I mean, there seem to be more powerful chips at the same price
[12:10] <savagecroc> mgottschlag: really?
[12:10] <savagecroc> why is it used for the pi then?
[12:10] <mgottschlag> e.g. the whole allwinner stuff
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[12:10] <savagecroc> ohhh nice
[12:11] <mgottschlag> well, afaik the pi project was started in part by a number of bcm engineers :)
[12:11] <savagecroc> although the pi is massively powerful for the stuff we need
[12:11] <SS_Sleep> Eben is a Broadcom employee
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[12:12] <savagecroc> wow that A1x does look nice
[12:12] <mgottschlag> and given the high number of A1x devices, shouldn't be too difficult to get support for your project from them
[12:12] <savagecroc> wouldn't the total cost of the pi likely be cheaper though?
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[12:13] <savagecroc> just due to the numbers they are going through?
[12:13] <savagecroc> price is very important .. especially if you can just purchase a pi.. and then build mini add on boards for it
[12:13] <mgottschlag> probably, but if you design your own board, that doesn't help you much
[12:14] <savagecroc> yeah.. :/
[12:14] <nid0> savagecroc: have you seen the EVE project for the pi, its along the same kind of lines
[12:15] <savagecroc> yeah the kickstart project
[12:15] <nid0> basically a wireless addon board that plugs into the gpio and provides connectivity for pretty much any kind of wireless chip you want to attach to it
[12:16] <savagecroc> yeah i wasn't really sure what the end price was going to be
[12:16] <savagecroc> but if it was $6 for all those protocols
[12:16] <savagecroc> it's not too bad
[12:17] <savagecroc> although we probably really need 2g as well to that kit
[12:17] <savagecroc> ohhh
[12:17] <savagecroc> dinner time
[12:17] <savagecroc> bbl
[12:17] <savagecroc> :D
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[12:18] <sidh> I would like to test icinga (supervision tool) on a second R-pi Ive bought, do you know wich linux distro is well suited for that on R-pi
[12:18] <sidh> ?
[12:19] <CorvusCorax> icinga runs well on debian
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[12:19] <sidh> oki , but I suppose, all depending services have their debian way of configuration , isn't it ?
[12:19] <CorvusCorax> im not sure if the R-Pi distro has the latest icinga packages
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[12:20] <CorvusCorax> lets check
[12:20] <sidh> CorvusCorax: thanks for the info
[12:21] <Martin`> pompompom
[12:21] <CorvusCorax> ok, there are debian packages for icinga on R-Pi. so it should be as simple of apt-get install icinga. I think debian puts the conf in /etc/icinga/objects - with the check scrips distributed across /usr/share/icinga and /usr/share/nagios but not 100% sure
[12:22] <nid0> the raspbian version in the repos is not the latest though
[12:22] <Martin`> Found my bluetooth shield I ordered 2 years ago I quess. Maybe I need to try to make my iPhone communicate with it
[12:22] <nid0> 1.7.1 is available, 1.8.2 is the latest
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[12:25] <sidh> CorvusCorax: thanks you very much
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[12:28] <Wessix> does anyone know somethin about running raspberry pi as host for a serial usb gadget?
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[12:29] <Wessix> something like this:
[12:29] <Wessix> http://docs.blackfin.uclinux.org/doku.php?id=linux-kernel:usb-gadget:serial
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[12:31] <mjr> just using a serial dongle on the pi? that should work
[12:31] <Wessix> usinf my e book reader as monitor
[12:31] <mjr> the pi has a serial interface on the gpio as well, though 3.3v only
[12:31] <Wessix> i maged to do this with windows and ubuntu
[12:31] <Wessix> managed
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[12:43] <CorvusCorax> most serial usb gadgets work, as long as theres a linux driver for it
[12:43] <CorvusCorax> mjr, you don't happen to know if theres a linux driver for the 2nd UART of the mbt chip on the raspberry?
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[13:04] <hyppias> lightdm starts up every reboot. How can I get kde start instead?
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[13:06] <gordonDrogon> not sure you want to run KDE on the Pi. It may require more resources than the Pi comfortably has...
[13:06] <hyppias> i know... wanna try anyway :)
[13:06] <gordonDrogon> apt-get install kde
[13:07] <hyppias> did that, but it does not replace lightdm somehow in the startup proc
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[13:11] <martk100> I have an error while compiling tslib on Archlinux.The relevant compiler output is:- error: call to ?__open_missing_mode? declared with attribute error: open with O_CREAT in second argument needs 3 arguments . Line 227 of ts_calibrate is:- cal_fd = open (calfile, O_CREAT | O_RDWR); I clearly need a 3rd parameter but what?
[13:11] <xzr> umm
[13:11] <xzr> correct me if I'm wrong but lightdm is just a display manager where as KDE is window manager, or whatever the correct terms are
[13:11] <xzr> so you can start KDE using lightdm
[13:11] <xzr> which window manager does it start now hyppias
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[13:12] <adas> I am trying to blink on LED on GPIO pin 17 and it works. And I tried the same thing on GPIO pin 23 and it does not work. Is it possible that I screwed up pin 23?
[13:12] <Coffe> kde uses kdm i guess.. i know it would work with gdm ..
[13:12] <Coffe> guess kdm stands for Kde Display Manager
[13:13] <xzr> might work with lightdm as well
[13:13] <xzr> just need to change his x start scripts to point to kde
[13:13] <gordonDrogon> adas, it's possible, but maybe you've just plugged into the wrong pin?
[13:13] <xzr> not a huge fan of kde personally so never tested
[13:13] <linuxstb> martk100: That's the mode - i.e. the permissions of the file if it is created (in combination with umask). I think you can do "0666"
[13:14] <linuxstb> (without the quotes)
[13:14] <adas> gordonDrogon: i tried it man times and same result. Its a new pi and im saddened that i've already bricked a part of it
[13:14] <adas> *many
[13:14] <CorvusCorax> kde stands for "kde desktop environment" - kde includes both window manager and display manager and a lot of other thingsa too (menues, browser, IDE, ...)
[13:15] <adas> gordonDrogon: are you the wiringPi gordon?
[13:15] <gordonDrogon> adas, yes.
[13:15] <Gadgetoid> There's no other gordon!
[13:15] <martk100> linuxstb: I do not write program. Do I put 0666 as the 3rd argument?
[13:15] <linuxstb> Yes
[13:15] <KameSense> gordonDrogon: o/
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[13:15] <martk100> linuxstb: Ok thanks.
[13:16] <gordonDrogon> adas, ok - so BCM_GPIO 23 is about the middle of the outside row of pins.
[13:16] <xzr> CorvusCorax: no reason you can't use another display manager with it though :P
[13:16] <adas> gordonDrogon: awesome. Its great that you hangout here.. i used your library to write Haskell bindings.. without it I wouldn't be able to do some of my projects with haskell. Thank you very much : )
[13:16] <CorvusCorax> gordonDrogon: this morning I made a modification to wiringPi to set GPIO's into arbitrary alternate modes (like "gpio mode 14 alt5;" ) would you want that patch?
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[13:17] <gordonDrogon> CorvusCorax, not at the moment, thanks. I'm sort of trying to keep things working with as "standard" as possible system (whatever that might be)
[13:17] <Coffe> i dont like lightdm .. dont know why ,, but i guess i just feel more home with gdm
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[13:17] <gordonDrogon> CorvusCorax, and I've just re-written wiringPi anyway, so some thing shave changed internally...
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> adas, you could blink them all - for in in `seq 0 7`; do gpio mode $i out ; done
[13:18] <adas> gordonDrogon: its the BCM_GPIO 23 pin which is the 4th pin downwards from the marking P1 on the rpi board
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> adas, then while true; do gpio wb 0 ; sleep 1 ; gpio wb 255 ; sleep 1 ; done
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[13:19] <gordonDrogon> adas, that's not bcm_23.
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[13:19] <gordonDrogon> adas, have a look at: http://wiringpi.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/pins.pdf
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[13:19] <adas> gordonDrogon: I am talking about wiringPi pin number 4
[13:20] <adas> which is bcm Pin number 23 right?
[13:20] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Re-written, you say? Interesting.
[13:21] <CorvusCorax> gordonDrogon: assume I wanted to make the Raspberries second UART available, I need to set pins to another alt mode (gpio14 and 15 to alt5), do you know any other command line tools to do so in linux (other than a hacked version of your gpio utility)? as in is there a "standard" way to do so?
[13:21] <CorvusCorax> the sys/gpio interface doesn#t seem to accept other directions but "in" and "out", you can just unexport a pin to put it back to its default
[13:22] <adas> gordonDrogon: thanks for the link. checking
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[13:23] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, Hey... yes. improved.
[13:23] <gordonDrogon> CorvusCorax, I don't think there's a standard way - I also don't think there's a kernel driver for it either, but I could be wrong there.
[13:23] <Gadgetoid> Really need to find the time to gut and totally re-write my wrappers, without using shoddy bindings generation
[13:24] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, you can now add more peripherals into wiringPi - so they use the same pinMode(), digitalWrite(), analogRead() functions now.
[13:24] <gordonDrogon> adas, wiringPi pin 4 is indeed bcm_23 - physical pin 16
[13:25] <CorvusCorax> gordonDrogon: I based that patch on the "master" branch in your git repo. I assume thats before your rewrite :)
[13:25] <gordonDrogon> CorvusCorax, thats a kernel driver for the serial port...
[13:25] <gordonDrogon> CorvusCorax, ye s- I've not done a push yet...
[13:25] <CorvusCorax> :)
[13:26] <gordonDrogon> just need to do a little bit more testing - sadly the Jamboree has crept upon me a little quicker than I thought...
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[13:27] <CorvusCorax> gordonDrogon: yes, that was my question earlier, if there IS a kernel driver for that serial port or not. I'd find it weird that there should be a driver for that hacky "Mini UART" but not for the full fledged one
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[13:29] <_GhouL_> hi, I messed up with my gpu_mem variables and my rpi hanged. is there a way to mount it on linux and change these variables? thanks
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[13:30] <gordonDrogon> CorvusCorax, because it was easier to write maybe? Who knows. I suspect the port is only there because it was a left-over from another SoC design...
[13:30] <gordonDrogon> _GhouL_, on another PC/Mac - just plug it in.
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[13:31] <_GhouL_> gordonDrogon, I tried to plug it in my arch linux but it didn't recognize it
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[13:32] <_GhouL_> gordonDrogon, so I don't know if it is a problem caused by the card it self or the arch. but since you said it is possible then I will see how to fix the problem, thanks :)
[13:32] <gordonDrogon> _GhouL_, don't know - but maybe it needs to be manually mounted - try looking in the output of dmesg a few seconds after plugging it in.
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[13:33] <_GhouL_> ok thanks gordonDrogon
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[13:38] <sidh> is there a X-Less version of raspbian ?
[13:39] <gordonDrogon> raspbian doesn't start X by default...
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[13:41] <sidh> yes but maybe it start desktop related service in background that I wouldn't need for a supervision-oriented install
[13:42] <linuxstb> No, it's pretty minimal (looking at my "ps -e")
[13:43] <linuxstb> But in any case, there is just one version of Raspbian. You can of course add/remove from their selection of default packages after you've installed it.
[13:44] <CorvusCorax> gordonDragon: nah, it was my bad. apparently UART0 IS the full fledged PL011 UART accessible as /dev/ttyAMA0 - the UART1 available with the alt5 setting would then be that MiniUART, for which apparently there's no support in linux (yet?)
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[13:45] <CorvusCorax> I got them switched because of a blog post about them, but the bcm2835 ref sheet luckily was more detailed :)
[13:45] <sidh> ok will start with that first
[13:46] <gordonDrogon> CorvusCorax, ok - have to say, if I needed extras like the control lines I'd likely just use a usb serial port...
[13:47] <CorvusCorax> yeah. the main reason why i wanted to look into this was. we designed an extension board for radio communication, using the serial port. but then run into major issues with baud rate synchronisation between our msp430 and the raspberry. half the time there is communication the other half it fails
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[13:48] <CorvusCorax> switching to the other uart on the same ports was sort of a last straw ;)
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[13:52] <adas> gordonDrogon: thanks for that link. I understood that I was accessing wiringPi pin 7 thinking it was wiringPi pin 4
[13:53] <adas> now it works
[13:53] <gordonDrogon> adas, excellent!
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[13:56] <FR^2> accessing data on a ntfs-formatted external usb 2.0 harddisk is painfully slow, so I'm planning to convert the filesystem. I thought of ext4 - any alternatives to make reading more performant?
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[13:57] <gordonDrogon> ext4 will be fine for you.
[13:57] <FR^2> k
[13:57] <adas> gordonDrogon: im not sure if it will be helpful, but it would be nice to have a column for the physical pins on the output of "GPIO readall"
[13:58] <Coffe> i guess its more to limitation in buss speed of the usb ?
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> FR^2, just remember to unmount the filesystem before unplugging the stick.
[13:58] <gordonDrogon> adas, the latest gpio readall does just that - not released yet, but real soon now!
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[13:59] <Coffe> FR^2 eject should work .
[13:59] <gordonDrogon> adas, http://unicorn.drogon.net/readall.txt
[14:00] <adas> oh nice. can't wait.. : ) while giving the output, does "gpio readall" take into account the board revision?
[14:00] <gordonDrogon> I think it's the fuse ntfs driver thats just slow - I don't use it myself though, but I'm told the kernel one is faster.
[14:00] <gordonDrogon> adas, yes
[14:00] <gordonDrogon> actually ythat output is slightly old.
[14:01] <FR^2> Coffe: *gg*
[14:01] <gordonDrogon> just put a new sample output there.
[14:02] <adas> looks perfect to me.. are you planning to add a "wiringPiSetupPhys" as well?
[14:02] <FR^2> Coffe: concerning the performance (about 500kBytes/sec continuous read), I'm not sure of the reasons.
[14:06] <gordonDrogon> adas, you're precisely the 2nd person to ask me that... I think it's used in the RPi.GPIO python library IIRC.
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[14:06] <gordonDrogon> adas, it would actually be trivial to implement.
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[14:08] <adas> true and i think it would be useful - ) ill add a function for this in the haskel bindings anyways.
[14:09] <Coffe> FR^2: seems extremly slow.. lots of usb *stuff* connected ?
[14:10] <gordonDrogon> adas, how would you map the physical pins on the P5 connector on the rev2 though?
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[14:22] <adas> gordonDrogon: i think the needed info is in the pdf you linked to earlier. and since theres conflicts between pins 3,4,5,6 in p5 and p1, im thinking i can make a new type to name the pins individually. but that would mean the bindings would require its own pins.pdf which i would like to avoid..
[14:22] <FR^2> Coffe: Not really... keyboard and mouse and a bluetooth dongle, the usb 2.0 hdd - all on one usb 2.0 hub
[14:23] <Coffe> FR^2: hard name to nickcomplete.. dont know the limits of the pi's usb speed.
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[14:24] <gordonDrogon> adas, yea - conflicts is what I meant. Might just quietly ignore then - or map them to 32..39
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[14:26] <adas> 32..39? there are a total of only 34 pins ..
[14:27] <adas> or did you mean 27..34?
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[14:29] <gordonDrogon> there are 26 physical pins.
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[14:29] <gordonDrogon> I'm just rounding up to a power of 2.
[14:30] <gordonDrogon> this is physical pin numbers to gpio mapping..
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[14:30] <gordonDrogon> the P5 connector has 8 pins
[14:32] <gordonDrogon> anyway - gotta go now. be back when I get home.
[14:32] <gordonDrogon> laters.
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[15:22] <kaste> Does someone here have a pxeimage handy?
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[15:33] <RoyK> does the pi have something like a hardware watchdog?
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[15:34] <Maior> RoyK: define watchdog?
[15:36] <pksato> RoyK: http://pi.gadgetoid.co.uk/post/001-who-watches-the-watcher
[15:37] <RoyK> pksato: thanks
[15:37] <pksato> $10c.
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[15:38] <pksato> for google search service. :)
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[15:38] <RoyK> hehe
[15:38] <Maior> Gadgetoid: post-title in <title> would be a useful feature ;)
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[15:45] <ExeciN> when you halt a pi, is there a way to make it boot again without having to reconnect the power?
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[15:46] <Firehopper> use the reset port?
[15:46] <Firehopper> short the two pins of p6
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[15:53] <quaisi> sudo reboot do you mean?
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[15:54] <Number5> Hello guys, I've played a few weeks with raspi and I think the USB part (whether hardware or software) is not working well. I've used about 5 different webcams unstable results. Some do work, some not, some depending on software used, it's not really that.
[15:54] <Firehopper> quaisi, I dont think that would work if its halted..
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[15:54] <Firehopper> Number5, not many webcams have drivers and such on the pi..
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[15:54] <Firehopper> its hit or miss..
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> yea, I suspect your experience is similar to others.
[15:55] <Firehopper> plus you might get better results with a nice stable power supply
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> if you find one that works, stick with it!
[15:55] <Number5> Firehopper, well, many webcams use same chip or slightly modified onex
[15:55] <Firehopper> or wait for the RPI camera due in april
[15:55] <gordonDrogon> or enter the competition & win one :)
[15:55] <Number5> I tried 2 x Logitech C310 and they both are DEATH!
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[15:56] <Number5> I also used a hub for that
[15:56] <Number5> a powered hub to be more specific
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[15:57] <Gadgetoid> Maior: That's a good point, I noticed that a few days ago
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[15:57] <Number5> Another thing which made me think something really unstable on the Raspi's usb, that's when bluetooth dongle stops working for my keyboard and mouse.
[15:58] <Firehopper> interesting.. my hp cam was recognized right away
[15:58] <Firehopper> what version RPI number5?
[15:58] <Number5> I use version B
[15:58] <Maior> Number5: what's your PSU?
[15:58] <Number5> PSU??
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[15:59] <Firehopper> what revision model B? and what subversion?
[15:59] <Number5> ooh, where can I see it? I don't have the box anymore
[16:00] <Number5> I mean the package
[16:00] <Firehopper> theres a command you can issue
[16:00] <Number5> 2011.12
[16:00] <Number5> that's printed on the board
[16:00] <Scriven> Firehopper, which camera model?
[16:01] <Scriven> Firehopper, Number5: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[16:01] <Number5> aaah thnx :P
[16:01] <Scriven> "Revision", 2nd from bottom.
[16:01] <Scriven> yw.
[16:01] <Scriven> Revision 1 is: 0002
[16:02] <Firehopper> scriven its a HP webcam 3100
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[16:02] <Maior> Number5: how are you powering your Pi
[16:02] <Number5> Scriven, Firehopper : revisision = 000e
[16:02] <Number5> with a 1.5A adapter
[16:03] <Firehopper> okay, same as mine
[16:03] <Firehopper> its a 2.0 board made by sony
[16:03] <Number5> made by sony?
[16:03] <RoyK> doesn't seem the dog likes me - I get an error during start of watchdog, it looks like it's loading ok, but it never kicks in when the system hangs http://paste.ubuntu.com/5593318/
[16:03] <Firehopper> number, its assembled in the uk by sony :)
[16:04] <Number5> really? I thought by a Chinese company...
[16:05] <Number5> anyway, the thing is, after rebooting I my bluetooth dongle works, but camera is unstable. Sometimes it works sometimes not....
[16:06] * Firehopper only has 1 item plugged into my rpi normally.. a wifi dongle..
[16:06] <Firehopper> its been running for 3 days now.. no issues..
[16:06] <Number5> I say this carefully, but I think Raspi can't handle highspeed data over usb.
[16:06] <Firehopper> running irssi connected to the mtgox-rt channel
[16:07] <Firehopper> what os are you running? and did you update the firmware?
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[16:07] <Number5> Except usb issues with webcams, everything is fine with Raspi. This one is at work, I ordered one for my homeprojects.\
[16:08] <xzr> I doubt the camera or BT puts out enough data to fill the bus
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[16:08] <Number5> Firehopper, you said stick the cam that works well, doesn't sound reliable.
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[16:10] <Number5> so I think there is really some issues with the usb part. It even killed 2 Logitech C310 cam, or it could be a bad design of logitech, who knows.
[16:11] <Number5> The reason I think it can't handle a lot of data is because when I change resolution of the webcam from 640x480 to 320x240 than it works, sometimes there's a hickup, but in general it works.
[16:12] <Firehopper> remember the cpu is only single core. and only 700 mhz
[16:15] <Number5> ok so?
[16:15] <chithead> I guess not the cpu is the bottleneck here, but the usb controller
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[16:16] <Number5> chithead, you mean the hardware usb?
[16:16] <chithead> yes
[16:16] <Number5> could be
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[16:29] <Datalink> hm, is there a way to switch a Pi to HDMI after boot?
[16:29] <IT_Sean> No
[16:29] <IT_Sean> It auto detects at boot.
[16:30] <Firehopper> just plug something in the hdmi, it should switch automaticly
[16:36] <ShadowJK> what framreate are you running camera at?
[16:37] <ShadowJK> 640x480 @ 30 fps rgb is at the limit of what's sensible on usb
[16:37] <ShadowJK> (any usb2, not just rPi)
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[16:40] <Number5> ShadowJK, you were asking me?
[16:40] <ShadowJK> whoever was talking about webcams
[16:41] <Number5> ShadowJK, hahaha, yes that's me
[16:41] <Number5> I tried: fswebcam -r 640x480 -fps 5 test.jpg but I got a time out.
[16:42] <Number5> also on the desktop I used guvcview it couldn't even show the video
[16:43] <Number5> While with another camera it does show, but every camera had a different result.
[16:43] <Number5> some software works some not.
[16:45] <Number5> I wrote a script which takes every 20 sec. a picture of 320x240, this works, but sometimes I get a message like: Error selecting input 0. VIDIOC_S_INPUT: Device or resource busy
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[16:45] <Number5> when change resolution to 640x480, I get a time out
[16:46] <Number5> That's with a cheap Trust webcam.
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[16:47] <Number5> With a Logitech C310 it worked some times and than they died. C310 has high res, beautiful pictures.
[16:47] <ironfroggy> can anyone tell me how to run a pygame script remotely, such that it can access the pi framebuffer?
[16:47] <ironfroggy> it works from the local terminal, and from ssh, but not when run through supervisord
[16:48] <Number5> C310 died litteraly, even on Windows it didn't work. I had even a BlueScreen on Windows 7
[16:48] <Number5> because of the webcam c310 after it died on Raspi.
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[16:58] <Number5> I have like 3 usb devices on Raspi: wifi, bluetooth and webcam. I'll try out with just 1: webcam and access Raspi through ssh.
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[17:00] <Number5> funny thing is, bluetooth doesn't react at all, so I have to reboot to get it alive.
[17:00] <ironfroggy> looks like i was wrong and its no longer workign through ssh either. so, how does SDL find the framebuffer on a raspberrypi?
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[17:04] <kaste> I am about to compile u-boot and wondering which crosscompiler for arm I need to use under Arch
[17:04] <kaste> there seem to be quite a few
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[17:16] <keen_commander> hi all
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[17:36] <martk100> Is it possible to install ts_open.c? This file (and others) did not install with tslib. I have ts_open.c .lo .plo and .o.
[17:36] <martk100> On Archlinux
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[17:49] <Zirob> Good evening PPL!
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[17:51] <Zirob> Anyone here who have used Rbej's latest openELEC build? and who might say if it's any good.
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[17:58] <frankdrey> Ohi datagutt, nice to see you here
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[18:00] * frankdrey will have pi questions, but later :p
[18:00] <frankdrey> Well, one right now. What's better for controlling the mount of flash drives (arch linux). Systemd or udev rules?
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[18:01] <frankdrey> I just need it to mount all flash drives to a certain place, as reliably as possible. Like /dev/flash1, flash2
[18:01] <sam_nazarko> fstab
[18:01] <sam_nazarko> or if they're not always there, udev
[18:01] <frankdrey> Hot swap
[18:01] <sam_nazarko> ok
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[18:01] <sam_nazarko> udev or udisks-glue are nice solutions
[18:02] <frankdrey> Alright
[18:02] <frankdrey> Ty
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[18:09] <frankdrey> Using a 2A power supply on the Pi can't screw things up, can it?
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[18:12] <ksa> frankdrey: nah - im using a 2A that is powering two
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[18:13] <frankdrey> ksa, alright :p
[18:13] <gordonDrogon> you can't push more amps into something without raising the voltage, so as long as the voltage is 5v then you're fine.
[18:14] <gordonDrogon> I have a Pi powered off a PC PU right now - it's rated 35 amps on the 5v side.
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[18:17] <IT_Sean> gordonDrogon: that sounds terribly inefficient
[18:17] <KameSense> hello
[18:17] <gordonDrogon> IT_Sean, it's what was next to me at the time.
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[18:18] <IT_Sean> fair 'nuff
[18:18] <gordonDrogon> it's also powered a bunch of stepper motors too.
[18:18] <IT_Sean> I see.
[18:18] <KameSense> got an issue : whenever I plug a usb hub on my Pi, transfer rates behind it are limited to usb1 700Kb/s
[18:18] <gordonDrogon> PC PSUs are very handy. instant 5v and 12v supply.
[18:18] <IT_Sean> is it a USB1 hub, KameSense ?
[18:18] <KameSense> could it be because my Pi isn't powered enough ?
[18:18] <KameSense> no USB 2 hub
[18:19] <IT_Sean> Is it a powered ub?
[18:19] <IT_Sean> *hub
[18:19] <KameSense> and flash drives or hdd drives behing the hub are declared as usb2 when i lsusb -a
[18:19] <KameSense> no, not powered
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[18:23] <KameSense> no idea ? should I try a powered usb2 hub ?
[18:23] <IT_Sean> it MIGHT be the hub
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[18:24] <netw1z> anyone get this from bt-device -l
[18:24] <netw1z> bt-device: bluez service is not found
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[18:28] <frankdrey> So I'm reading that the Pi doesn't have a real time clock? Can't it tell time by processor clock? I don't need it to tell actual time, but I need it to count seconds and stuff.
[18:28] <IT_Sean> How accurate do you need it to be?
[18:28] <IT_Sean> the Pi does not have an RTC.
[18:28] <IT_Sean> It is not meant for real time, time based whatnot.
[18:28] <mjr> RTC means that it can't remember the time while powered off
[18:28] <frankdrey> Just rough
[18:28] <frankdrey> For a slideshow
[18:28] <IT_Sean> You'll be fine, then
[18:28] <frankdrey> Alright
[18:29] <mjr> it will keep rough time while on like your usual PC
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[18:40] <RoyK> anyone that knows a safe bet for a PSU to the pi? seems like chaos out there - all sorts of things that claim 5V 2A, but fall to perhaps 4,6V even with the pi alone connected, even without USB or HDMI
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[18:40] <IT_Sean> RoyK: I have had personal success with both an iPad charger, and a Nexus 4 charger.
[18:41] <RoyK> how much over TP1-2?
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[18:41] <IT_Sean> RoyK: i haven't measured, but on either one my Pi works perfectly, even with several USB devices, and HDMI attached.
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[18:41] <RoyK> hm... do you have a multimeter around?
[18:42] <IT_Sean> I'm not at home.
[18:42] <RoyK> ok
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[18:42] <IT_Sean> But trust me, either of those will do, and you should be able to get them easily from amazon or fleebay.
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[18:45] <RoyK> IT_Sean: thanks
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[19:25] <datagutt> [17:58:22] <frankdrey> Ohi datagutt, nice to see you here
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[19:25] <datagutt> ohright
[19:25] <datagutt> he parted
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[19:27] <RoyK> finally made the watchdog work - nowayout=1 is the key
[19:27] <RoyK> (as a workaround)
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[19:29] <xeviox> hi guys, I've created a sd-card with raspbmc, which runs fine... Now I've used "dd" to copy the hole sd-card to another one which seemed to work fine (file manager shows the same on both). But using the newly created sd-card just throws an error "loader.bin not found" (green LED flashes 3 times). Any ideas what I've done wrong?
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[20:22] <diamonds> this page is all fucked up fyi http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards
[20:22] <diamonds> just if anyone comes asking how to pick an sd card
[20:22] <diamonds> I bought a class10 card for my rasppiB it didn't work
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[20:23] <diamonds> sry
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[20:23] <diamonds> anyway I went to get a new one ( http://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Class-Memory-SD4-16GBET/ ) class 4 this time
[20:23] <diamonds> it's listed here http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards as class 10
[20:23] <kkit> my class 10 8gb card works great
[20:23] * diamonds shrugs
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[20:24] <diamonds> I tested the pi with someone elses card, it worked
[20:24] <diamonds> my card it would not even read... no status light for sd io
[20:24] <kkit> have you tested the card in other devices? maybe you just got a bad one
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[20:24] <diamonds> but then there's the fact that a specific model # is mislabeled
[20:24] <diamonds> kkit: well how? move some photos on it and see if they wrote?
[20:25] <kkit> yep
[20:25] <diamonds> no I can try that
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[20:25] <diamonds> I mean the OS didn't complain about dd'ing to the disk
[20:26] <diamonds> anyway there are irregularities on the page as well... SD4/16GBET is listed as class 10 there, class 4 on vendor site (amazon)
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[20:27] <diamonds> I can't edit because accounts are locked and they require a biography to create an account, which... I don't know what that policy's about but I don't have a linux biography on hand :)
[20:27] <diamonds> just mentioning it for when ppl come to ask "how do I pick a card" -> elinux page has irregularities
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[20:30] <RoyK> my class 10 8GB SDs are dead slow
[20:30] <RoyK> seems like "class 10" isn't really a certification, just a label
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[20:32] <IT_Sean> RoyK: the speed ratings on SD cards will not apply to the Pi. The speed ratings / classes refer to sequential write speed. The Pi is not reading or writing sequentially. The random read write speed will always be lowerr.
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[20:35] <RoyK> IT_Sean: heh - this so-called class 10 card was supposed to do 20MB/s. A dd from my mac made it to perhaps 2MB/s
[20:36] <RoyK> IT_Sean: I know the difference between sequencial and random access quite well
[20:36] <RoyK> the dd write used bs=1M, which should suffice
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[21:20] <lee> this is way more hassle than I thought it would be, trying to work out what LEDs to use to light a couple of rooms
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[21:21] <lee> and wanting to power it via solar pv is making it a little bit more interesting to boot
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[21:27] <Wessix> Can realtime collaborative work on code been done with WebIDE?
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[21:48] <Zencrypter> Hi everybody !
[21:48] <Zencrypter> My Rasbperry Pi doesn't accept ssh anymore since I installed USBIP...
[21:49] <Zencrypter> Is there a way to swith it off without just unplugging and plugging it ?
[21:49] <Zencrypter> (With no screen but with a keyboard)
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[21:51] <mjr> well, plug the keyboard in, make sure you're in a text virtual console with ctrl-alt-f1, login (if default, wasit "pi" and "raspberry"), type sudo halt (perhaps type password again, don't remember if it required it by default)
[21:51] <des2> not really
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[21:51] <des2> There's no circuitry controlling the power
[21:52] <Zencrypter> mjr, Yes, that's what I was thinking about
[21:52] <mjr> don't start the next line too quickly after the last to make sure the previous line has had its full effect
[21:52] <hellsing> without a screen do as mjr told
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[21:52] <Zencrypter> Normally, I should be in a virtual console since I never did startx
[21:52] <mjr> and yeah that won't turn it off but it will do a controlled shutdown
[21:52] <Zencrypter> I 'm using it as a webserver...
[21:53] <Zencrypter> mjr, Yes, that's what Im looking for...
[21:53] <hellsing> or do a reboot
[21:53] <Zencrypter> I just hope I won't have to unplug it... :S
[21:53] <mjr> yes, sudo reboot might be handier
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[21:53] <Zencrypter> Last time I did this, I had to reinstall everything, nothing worked anymore... :S
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[21:53] <mjr> that requires a bit of bad luck, too
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[22:03] <Zencrypter> I finally switched it off by stopping the power... :S
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[22:04] <IT_Sean> When it doubt, yank the plug out.
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[22:05] <Zencrypter> But you see, the last time I did it, I had to reinstall raspbian... :(
[22:05] <Zencrypter> I don't like to do things like this...
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[22:06] <hellsing> Encrypt, normally you can shutdown the pi without problem
[22:06] <IT_Sean> ja
[22:06] <netw1z> can i cheat and put a raspberry pi on the moon with a camera and radio and get the google $20 mil prize?
[22:06] <hellsing> are you sure the sd card is good?
[22:07] <Encrypt> hellsing, Shuting it down, yes, but unplugging it without problem...
[22:07] <IT_Sean> netw1z: how would that be cheating?
[22:07] <hellsing> netw1z, to send it to the moon, good luck with it :p
[22:07] <Encrypt> hellsing, It's a 4 Go Samsung
[22:07] <Encrypt> Magnets proof :??
[22:07] <IT_Sean> You would have to make a significant investment to A) get the Pi to survive in space, and B) actually get it to the moon.
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[22:08] <hellsing> Encrypt, unplug is not a problem, the problem is power loss during sd writing
[22:08] <netw1z> i guess its not cheating :) but getting out of the earths atmosphere is quite a task
[22:08] <des2> the PI barley works under earth conditions, it won't survive in space
[22:08] <Encrypt> hellsing, Ok...
[22:08] <netw1z> still - even the silliest ideas sometimes come to fruition.
[22:08] <IT_Sean> Getting out of hte atmosphere is easy. It's the rest of it that gets difficult.
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[22:08] <hellsing> getting out of atmosphere no big deal, in orbit: very hard
[22:08] <Encrypt> hellsing, Then, locking it wouldn't be a problem, am I wrong ?
[22:09] <IT_Sean> locking it?
[22:09] <hellsing> huum and were do you put the swap?
[22:09] <IT_Sean> The raspi ignores the rear only switch anyway.
[22:09] <netw1z> if you could shoot enough cheap small robots at the moon
[22:09] <IT_Sean> *read
[22:10] <netw1z> ahh well back to dreaming :)
[22:10] <hellsing> netw1z, shoot robo to the moon?! the initial acceleration will tear the robot appart
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[22:11] <hellsing> yo need a mini babylon cannon and good luck to aim the moon :p
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[22:13] <netw1z> drawing some other ideas up. but yeah shielding that rpi robot would also take some work - but hey , the competition is till 2015 :)
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[22:15] <hellsing> netw1z, you need to have approximately a 10000m/s velocity to get in orbit, so without air drag, the acceleration must be 1000g in the cannon!
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[22:16] <smallfoot-> Anyone porting RPI to CyanogenMod
[22:16] <smallfoot-> ?
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[22:16] <hellsing> if the small capacitor C2 can endure such acceleration, it wouldn't break when you disconnect your mini usb wire :p
[22:17] <hellsing> smallfoot-, i don't know, sorry
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[22:19] <smallfoot-> :(
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[22:20] <netw1z> hellsing, that is true, but i think beyond that issue, now thinking about just proposing to a friend at a private co about smaller robots that report to the base.
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[22:21] <hellsing> the major problem is sending something to the moon for less than 20 mil.
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[22:22] <thebestjohn> it's the fuel that gets yas
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[22:24] <hellsing> even in a small game like kerbal space program, going to moon is hard...
[22:25] <netw1z> yeah, reading up on NASA's own research into balloon assist to upper atmosphere
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[22:25] <netw1z> for small payload launch by rocket
[22:25] <Encrypt> hellsing, You made me loose the game...
[22:25] <hellsing> the game?
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[22:26] <hellsing> netw1z, yeah, this kind of option can be interresting, or doing like virgin a plane that after send a rocket
[22:26] <Encrypt> hellsing, You don't know the game ?
[22:26] <hellsing> which game?
[22:27] <thebestjohn> damnit! I've been winning the game for the past 3 years and you made me loose it too
[22:27] <Encrypt> :??
[22:27] <netw1z> thats what im wondering about now, with the idea of a tiny package that could possibly survive a impact
[22:27] <Encrypt> hellsing, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_%28mind_game%29
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[22:28] <netw1z> hellsing if one could get the delivery package down really small the chances for that kind of delivery goes up.
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[22:29] <hellsing> netw1z, maybe you can be lucky enough to go with a pico satellites launch
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[22:31] <hellsing> netw1z, then you"just" need to go to moon; land without crash (good luck with that) and to a communication with the earth :!
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[22:32] <hellsing> the communication part should be the easiest one
[22:32] <netw1z> hellsing : http://i.space.com/images/i/000/005/510/original/tiny-satellite-handheld-100728-02.jpg?1292270979
[22:32] <netw1z> you have to recieve HD images from the moon from the camera
[22:33] <hellsing> hd images or video?
[22:33] <des2> They shouldn't put a time limit on the prize.
[22:33] <netw1z> i believe video
[22:33] <des2> It discourages entries.
[22:33] <hellsing> and real time or not
[22:33] <netw1z> not real time
[22:33] <netw1z> moon kinda far for real time
[22:34] <hellsing> if you have time you can upload a hd video with a 56k modem...
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[22:34] <netw1z> yes.. def trickle broadcast
[22:34] <netw1z> on a delay
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[22:35] <hellsing> but the spacedragon launch is 20 millions per astronauts, maybe you can send a robo for 10millions with space dragon and earn 10 millions
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[22:41] <netw1z> there are other companies
[22:41] <netw1z> making launches
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[22:42] <netw1z> lemme check, dont have 10 million - still gonna do some research and canvas my contacts
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[22:46] <SpeedEvil> Is it possible to rotate the display>?
[22:46] <SpeedEvil> xrandr -o left does not work
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[22:47] <ParkerR> SpeedEvil, display_rotate rotates the display clockwise on the screen (default=0) or flips the display. http://elinux.org/RPiconfig#Video_mode_options
[22:47] <ParkerR> Just look for that line on the page :P
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[22:48] <zleap> hello
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[22:48] <SpeedEvil> So, not live?
[22:48] <ParkerR> SpeedEvil, I dont think so
[22:49] <SpeedEvil> Sigh. Thanks.
[22:49] <ParkerR> zleap, Hello
[22:49] <ParkerR> SpeedEvil, Hey at least you have the ability to rotate the screen :P
[22:50] <SpeedEvil> yeah, it's just that that makes it almost useless for me
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[22:50] <steve_rox> i still wanna know if theres a way to change screen res without reboot for composite video not hdmi
[22:51] <SpeedEvil> All locked up in the GPU datasheet, I suspect
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[22:52] <zleap> hi ParkerR
[22:53] <steve_rox> hi spiderman
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[22:54] <steve_rox> gonna pass out i think
[22:57] <ech0s7> i have raspbian base image and i have installed it, i have a question about: what process changes at startup /etc/resolv.conf ?
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[23:14] <zleap> ParkerR, hello
[23:17] <Encrypt> zleap, Hi ! :)
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[23:23] <zleap> hi
[23:24] <zleap> how are things
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[23:36] <frankdrey> strange, I downloaded the arch linux image from the pi site, and did an update, and now my login is dead...?
[23:36] <frankdrey> says incorrect login
[23:37] <frankdrey> i'm sure i'm typing the right password :p
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[23:46] <optshiftk> hey all, i'm new to all this, and i'm trying to emulate a raspberry pi in QEMU. I downloaded the latest wheezy SD card image and the kernel image from git, but qemu isn't booting
[23:47] <optshiftk> is there something i'm missing here? my qemu command looks like `qemu-system-arm -kernel kernel.img -cpu arm1176 -m 256 -append "root=/dev/sda2 panic=1" -hda sdcard.img`
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[23:56] <chod> optshiftk: erm the raspberry pi hardware boots from an sd with a partition for the inital boot < i think >
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[23:56] <chod> optshiftk: i guess you cannot emulate that?
[23:56] <optshiftk> so i should specify -sd instead of -hda?
[23:57] <optshiftk> qemu supports booting straight into a kernel
[23:57] <optshiftk> it doesn't seem to support booting off an SD card like this, so i'm trying to work around that by providing the kernel image directly
[23:57] <chod> got tobe worth a go, not sure what else to suggest apart from google
[23:57] <chod> get a real one, there cheap
[23:58] <chod> what you intend to run on it?
[23:58] <optshiftk> oh, i'm gonna get a real one ;-) i just wanted this for dev
[23:58] <chod> get a 512mb
[23:58] <optshiftk> probably just a simple pygtk app to display messages on my TV
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[23:58] * chod nods
[23:58] <chod> been messing with hardware on the gpio pins
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[23:59] <optshiftk> i could actually get away with a 256MB one??? are they ever going to make more?

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