#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-03-13

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[0:04] * erikjms is very excited to see raspberry pi command line for the very first time!
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[0:10] <Gadgetoid> erikjms: Fork bomb it from orbit, it's the only way to be sure
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[0:18] <erikjms> I decided to start conservatively with apt-get this-and-that
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[0:39] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi v2. shift regsiter output device: Done.
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[0:41] <kgee> my wireless usb dongle uses the 8192cu driver rather than the nl80211 driver. This seems to be preventing me from using 'iw list', and by proxy it prevents me from debugging my non-working access point installed from a script at this location: https://github.com/ghoulmann/RasWAP/blob/master/raspiwap.sh
[0:41] <kgee> does anyone have experience creating an access point using the edimax low-power-draw usb dongles?
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[0:43] <kgee> Interestingly enough, I can use 'iwlist wlan0 ap' to learn "wlan0 Interface doesn't have a list of Peers/Access-Points".
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[0:48] <troulouliou_dev> hi any body have an idea about how to control 2 til323a numeric led display while using as less gpio pin as possible ?
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[0:51] <pksato> troulouliou_dev: link to datasheet?
[0:52] <pksato> Its is a 7 seg display?
[0:52] <troulouliou_dev> pksato, http://www.datasheetarchive.com/TIL323A-datasheet.html
[0:52] <pksato> one digit?
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[0:52] <troulouliou_dev> pksato, 8 with a common anode
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[0:52] <troulouliou_dev> pksato, 1 digit and a dot
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[0:53] <pksato> And you need to use only one?
[0:54] <troulouliou_dev> pksato, no 2
[0:54] <pksato> and minimum ios? but lots of cis?
[0:55] <pksato> key is multiplexing
[0:55] <troulouliou_dev> pksato, yep but i think 8 to cover 0-99 and one blinking dot
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[0:58] * Milos_ is now known as Milos
[0:58] <pksato> you can use 4511 BCD to 7seg decoder, and 5 IO lines.
[0:59] <troulouliou_dev> pksato, cool thanks; thats the answer i was looking for :)
[1:00] <kgee> OK, new knowledge: hostapd.conf seems to always use the nl80211 driver, yet my wireless usb device uses the 8192cu driver to connect. Can I somehow use both? will they conflict?
[1:00] <pksato> Or, two 74HC595 (shift register) and 3 IO lines.
[1:01] <pksato> or two lines.
[1:02] <troulouliou_dev> pksato, thanks for time and share :)
[1:03] <pksato> and, news... [20:39] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi v2. shift regsiter output device: Done.
[1:03] <troulouliou_dev> yes saw this yesterday :)
[1:04] <troulouliou_dev> his blog is great
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[1:06] <troulouliou_dev> bed time thanks again
[1:10] <pksato> http://dx.com/p/jy-mcu-3208-lattice-clock-ht1632c-driver-with-mcu-support-secondary-development-104306
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[1:17] <zirra-away> this thing hates me.
[1:17] * zirra-away is now known as godzirra
[1:17] <godzirra> piney: you around?
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[1:27] <piney> godzirra, I am now
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[1:29] <godzirra> Nevermind
[1:29] <godzirra> I think some of my switches in the joystick are going bad.
[1:29] <godzirra> I'm trying the other stick I've got. :)
[1:29] <piney> you can test them with the multimeter
[1:29] <godzirra> I dont think it will help.
[1:29] <godzirra> they're finicky
[1:29] <godzirra> sometimes it will work
[1:29] <godzirra> and I wiggle the connection and it stops.
[1:30] <piney> intermittent problems are the worst
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[1:30] <godzirra> agreed.
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[1:31] <cyclick> I am using gmediarender to be able to play music, videos and pictures from my android phone on the pi but for some reason, only the music works and pictures or video won't... any idea why?
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[1:53] <chod> .
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[1:57] <godzirra> 17:36 -!- ccssnet [~ccssnet@] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
[1:57] <godzirra> 17:36 -!- ccssnet [~ccssnet@] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
[1:57] <godzirra> 17:36 -!- ccssnet [~ccssnet@] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
[1:57] <godzirra>
[1:57] <godzirra> asd
[1:57] <godzirra> asd17:36 -!- ccssnet [~ccssnet@] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds]
[1:57] <godzirra> Whoa.
[1:57] <godzirra> sorry.
[1:58] <cjfs> you drunk
[1:58] <godzirra> No, I got stuck in a game and right clicked, which pastes in putty.
[1:58] <cjfs> I forgive you
[1:58] <cjfs> we can still be friends
[1:58] <godzirra> Whew.
[1:58] <godzirra> Thanks, I was worried.
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[1:58] <cjfs> np
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[2:36] <generalzero> is there any reason my raspberry pi Ethernet randomly shuts down every 20 seconds?
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[2:48] <amosko> Hi
[2:48] <amosko> So I am learning python and am at a very basic level. Same pretty much with linux
[2:48] <amosko> Is this worth the investment?
[2:49] <owen_> yes sir, keep going
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[2:50] <amosko> The only problem I can think of with these micro controller projects is lets say I do a project and make hook it up to some cool device that does some cool thing.
[2:50] <amosko> Then what
[2:50] <amosko> It's just stuck there?
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[2:50] <cjfs> amosko, existential crisis?
[2:52] <amosko> I'm just curioud
[2:52] <owen_> amosko: the best thing about linux, learning a programming language(s) is that it will teach you to read and ward off alzheimers in later life
[2:53] <amosko> I feel like it would seem like a waste to buy this product set something up and then never use it again except for that one thing
[2:53] <amosko> I guess the goal would be to purpose it for something very useful huh?
[2:54] <owen_> build anything that needs control
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[2:55] <owen_> how do you think they got to Mars
[2:56] <owen_> how do you think the internet works
[2:57] <amosko> I understand
[2:57] <amosko> Just weighing pros and cons before making an investment
[2:57] <amosko> The other thing I'm afraid of is getting one and never finishing a project (which happens all too often)
[2:58] <Flexnard> some times its more about the learning process then it is about real use. and if you make cool thing #1 which leads you to cool thing #2 etc etc and in time you might have something others want. you can always pull your pi out of one thing and shove it in another thing and have different SD cards or buy more pi's :P
[2:58] <owen_> it is better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved at all :-)
[2:59] <amosko> True
[2:59] <amosko> I hinted to my wife that I wanted it for my birthday.
[2:59] <amosko> I assume she didn't pick up on it :/
[2:59] <Flexnard> lol
[2:59] <amosko> That was 2 months ago
[2:59] <Flexnard> my second pi comes tomorrow :)
[3:00] <amosko> How much does it cost?
[3:00] <owen_> how much are you willing to pay?
[3:01] <cjfs> amosko, are you just trying to learn basic programming, or looking to do something specific with a pi?
[3:02] <amosko> I'd like to learn programming as well as linux
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[3:02] <cjfs> install linux, http://learnpythonthehardway.org/ and start making stuff ;-)
[3:03] <cjfs> no real need for a raspberry pi until you have some sort of project idea
[3:03] <amosko> I've been doing other python courses.
[3:03] <amosko> I have linux mint on one machine
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[3:04] <amosko> I don't personally have ideas but I've seen cool ideas else where
[3:05] <cjfs> gotcha
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[3:12] <amosko> thanks cjfs
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[3:15] <Aivaras> Guys what maximum speed do you get while coping files from SD over eth using ssh?
[3:16] <RoyK> mint on a pi?
[3:17] <RoyK> I thought mint was like ubuntu, newer code, not compatible with the pi
[3:18] <Aivaras> in theory you can compile and run anything on raspberry
[3:18] <RoyK> well, of course
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[3:19] <Out`Of`Control> Aivaras: around 1 mb
[3:19] <Aivaras> Out`Of`Control, MB you mean?
[3:19] <Out`Of`Control> yes
[3:20] <Out`Of`Control> 1 mB/s
[3:20] <Out`Of`Control> Aivaras: what speed you get?
[3:20] <Aivaras> 1.4
[3:21] <RoyK> with a good sd card, perhaps 10MB/s
[3:21] <RoyK> perhas 20
[3:21] <Out`Of`Control> i get max 1.9 but sometimes even less 0.4
[3:21] <Hodapp> I guess now wouldn't be the time to complain that I'm only getting 140 MB/sec syncing from one VelociRaptor to another...
[3:21] <RoyK> with a crappy so-called 10x card, usually 2-3MB/s
[3:21] <Aivaras> I have a quite a decent card but it seams that raspberry cant cope with load :/
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[3:22] <Out`Of`Control> i have class 10
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[3:22] <Aivaras> Hodapp, my ramdisk is only 4 GB/s :/
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[3:22] <RoyK> the SD bus won't allow for more than 33MB/s anyway
[3:22] <Hodapp> RoyK: really? I didn't know it had such a limit
[3:22] <RoyK> 8 bit
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[3:23] <Hodapp> 8 bit and?
[3:23] <Out`Of`Control> RoyK: not sure if anyone get even 30mB/s
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[3:23] <RoyK> well, it's 8 bit and aaround 300MHz
[3:23] <RoyK> do the math
[3:25] <RoyK> erm
[3:25] <Aivaras> something is wrong :D
[3:25] <RoyK> 30MHz
[3:25] <Aivaras> now about right :D
[3:25] <RoyK> it's slow
[3:26] <Hodapp> psssh, just pretend it's ATA-33!
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[3:26] <Hodapp> without the annoying cables
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[3:37] <frankdrey> Is it possible to underclock the Pi?
[3:37] <frankdrey> can i set the frequency in the config to 600?
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[3:38] <frankdrey> second, i set the framebuffer depth to 32, is that going to cause problems on arch?
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[3:39] <frankdrey> because on my second monitor, it tends to flicker lines when showing green
[3:39] <frankdrey> but only on one of the monitors
[3:39] <frankdrey> the other works fine
[3:40] <frankdrey> (separate of course, not using both at same time or anything)
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[3:41] <frankdrey> and it seems blue, too
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[3:42] <frankdrey> heck, not color specific now, just random
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[3:43] <frankdrey> the cable is 3 feet long. hdmi to dvi, works fine in my other monitors, and i've tried setting the hdmi boost to 1 because short cable
[3:43] <frankdrey> didn't change
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[3:48] <frankdrey> anyone?
[3:48] <asaru> who makes the best sd cards?
[3:48] <piney> frankdrey, you can underclock, that i know
[3:48] <frankdrey> ok,, the flickering is the monitor, because after it warms up a bit it's fine
[3:48] <frankdrey> piney: alright, thanks so just set it to 600mhz?
[3:49] <frankdrey> asaru: i would assume SanDisk
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[3:49] <piney> i have to look it up
[3:50] <frankdrey> i'm reading and it seems like it shouldn't make much of a difference
[3:50] <frankdrey> but i'd like to minimize heat
[3:50] <frankdrey> because the ram and cpu/gpu get pretty warm
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[3:51] <piney> define warm
[3:51] <piney> they are made to run at 70c iirc
[3:51] <frankdrey> well, 5 seconds of touching hurts my finger :p
[3:51] <piney> and, if you are worried about it, they do sell heatsinks. although i think they are a waste of money
[3:51] <frankdrey> you think it'll be fine?
[3:51] <piney> yea
[3:52] <frankdrey> i found a pack of 8 small heatsinks on amazon for like 3 bucks
[3:52] <frankdrey> :p
[3:52] <frankdrey> i guess i'll keep it this way for now
[3:52] <piney> get thermal glue too if you do
[3:52] <frankdrey> yeah
[3:52] <piney> there is paste and glue, make sure you get the right stuff
[3:53] <frankdrey> i might anyway, cause i also have a multieffects guitar board that i'd like to put some heatsinks on
[3:53] <frankdrey> yeah i know
[3:54] <frankdrey> thanks
[3:54] <piney> no problem
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[4:05] <leftyfb> I'm trying to run a script during shutdown. In the init script, the do_stop section I have it echoing 0 to a file in /tmp which tells the script perform a couple steps then exit. Unfortunately, I can't get the script to run in run level 0 or 6 no matter what I do. Calling '/etc/init.d/script stop' works but halting or rebooting does nothing.
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[4:10] <godzirra> Anyone here play around with uinput in python with the pi?
[4:10] <godzirra> piney: I've got one button working, I'm having trouble getting a second now. Progress! :)
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[4:10] <godzirra> but I'm 99% sure that my button problem is due to me configuring uinput for the second button wrong
[4:11] <wingdspur> what a world of difference a proper SD card makes
[4:12] <piney> nice godzirra. i just had progress too
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[4:12] <godzirra> Nice!
[4:12] <piney> been working on a graph for the last 3-4 days, finally got it looking alright
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[4:12] <godzirra> A graph?
[4:13] <piney> graphing temperature data
[4:13] <piney> using highcharts graph which is in javascript, i don't know javascript. so it takes a while
[4:13] <wingdspur> piney: can you recommend a particular temperature sensor
[4:13] <leftyfb> piney: I'm graphic with rrd ... got ambient temp and water temp ... I'm trying to add in indicators of the heater or fan being on or off
[4:14] <piney> wingdspur, ds18b20 1-wire stuff, i like that stuff
[4:14] <leftyfb> DS18B20
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[4:14] <leftyfb> they call it 1 wire ... but 's actually 3 ... but all the additional sensors use the same 3 over and over again
[4:15] <wingdspur> piney (poncho) and leftyfb nice thanks
[4:15] <piney> only 2 wires are needed though, and the 3'rd helps
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[4:15] <piney> one data wire would describe it more
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[4:16] <leftyfb> I have my arduino doing the temp checks, but the arduino pulling in the data and turning relays on and off depending on the temp
[4:16] <leftyfb> also have it controlling the night and day lights
[4:16] <leftyfb> along with a push button the cycles between the different light modes
[4:16] <leftyfb> and now I'm adding an LCD to output the data
[4:17] <piney> my next step after i get the graphing the way i like is to do a barometric pressure sensor, and humidity sensors
[4:17] <leftyfb> prettymuch all working and wired up to a single "shield" I built myself
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[4:17] <leftyfb> piney: you should use rrd
[4:17] <leftyfb> it just works and generates the graphs for you
[4:17] <piney> then i want an anemometer, rain gauge, lightning sensor, etc
[4:17] <godzirra> Ah, cool.
[4:18] <wingdspur> Ive seen adafruit seems to have some sensors that bundle if you will temp, barometric pressure, etc I thought
[4:18] <leftyfb> ah, we're going in different directions .... mine is all for a fishtank
[4:18] <piney> i use rrd for a lot, but wanted something prettier. i also think that i can get better control of the data from a database
[4:18] <godzirra> I just want to figure out the code for adding a second input button ;)
[4:19] <piney> my servers would be in havoc if it wasn't for munin and nagios
[4:19] <ball> Can a Raspberri Pi boot from USB flash?
[4:19] <leftyfb> no
[4:19] <ball> Oh. Pity.
[4:19] <piney> ball no, but you can put the OS on the usb
[4:19] <leftyfb> ball: it only boots from USB ... but you can put the entire OS other than the kernel/MBR onto USB
[4:19] <piney> still need the sd card for the bootloader tho
[4:20] <piney> leftyfb, described it better than me
[4:20] <leftyfb> piney: any experience with shutdown init scripts?
[4:20] <godzirra> I really wish there was more info on uinput
[4:20] <piney> no, i just do sudo shutdown kind of stuff
[4:20] <ball> Hmm... that might work then.
[4:20] <ball> I don't have an SDHC reader
[4:21] <wingdspur> piney so you are setting up a weather station, are you planning on wireless connecting to the sensors or all through gpio
[4:21] <leftyfb> ball: you still need the SD card to boot
[4:21] <piney> i'm planning on wiring them. maybe do wireless on the lightning sensor lol
[4:21] * ball nods
[4:21] <piney> i'm not a fan of wireless where it can be avoided
[4:22] <wingdspur> just figured housing the pi outside was a no no
[4:22] <ball> leftyfb: I'm guessing the bootloader fits on a 1G card though
[4:22] <leftyfb> it'll fit on a 16MB card
[4:22] <leftyfb> barely
[4:22] <piney> wingdspur, i want to put the pi in my basement, and wire the stuff to it
[4:22] <godzirra> Well crap. I think uinput only handles a single button.
[4:22] <godzirra> Is there a better way to handle detecting switches on gpio?
[4:22] <godzirra> Preferrably in the background so I can run it with mame?
[4:23] <piney> wingdspur, leftyfb this is what my graphs will look like basically http://thule.mine.nu/html/index.html
[4:23] <ball> leftyfb: I may still have a 512M micro-SD somewhere.
[4:24] <leftyfb> piney: damn that's nice
[4:24] <piney> i started using dygraph, in some ways i like it better than highcharts, but highcharts is prettier, does more, and has better documentation i think
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[4:26] <piney> to be honest, it probably will be a month at least before i get all the temperature graphs to my liking and finish playing with the options
[4:26] <wingdspur> piney: nice. Ive messed with flot and raphael on other platforms, highcharts does look nice
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[4:33] <fr0g911> ohla people
[4:35] <piney> hi fr0g911
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[4:36] <fr0g911> hey piney nice graph
[4:36] <piney> not mine... yet
[4:36] <piney> :)
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[4:36] <fr0g911> let me know when that happens
[4:36] <fr0g911> i want my pi doing that in my house
[4:36] <piney> kk
[4:37] <piney> i've always wanted a weather station that hooked up to my computer
[4:37] <piney> never wanted to spend the $$
[4:38] <fr0g911> i have the txu smart reader thing it tells me that stuff but only in the living room
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[4:40] <piney> my goal is to start with indoor and outdoor humidity / temperature. and a barometer outside
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[4:40] <piney> humidity / temp combo will give me dew point and 'feels like' index
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[4:41] <fr0g911> what do you do for a living weather man?
[4:41] <fr0g911> can i see you on tv
[4:41] <fr0g911> lol
[4:41] <piney> lol
[4:42] <piney> i install alarm systems, self employed
[4:42] <fr0g911> oh yea you told me
[4:42] <fr0g911> lol
[4:42] <fr0g911> hey i was gonna ask you
[4:42] <fr0g911> i have a honeywell keypad
[4:42] <fr0g911> had adt here
[4:42] <piney> want to integrate it to the pi?
[4:42] <fr0g911> rofl
[4:43] <fr0g911> hell yea
[4:43] <piney> did adt install it?
[4:43] <fr0g911> i have one problem i disconnected it from the bat and unplugged it because the owner of the house doesnt know the code for it and it kept going off
[4:43] <fr0g911> yeah adt installed it
[4:44] <piney> ahh, no code
[4:44] <piney> there is one thing to try, it will either work, or not
[4:44] <fr0g911> i called adt about it they told me how to disconnect it and everything but not howto reset the code
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[4:45] <piney> when first powering it up, if you press the * and # button at the same time, it should go in to programming mode. either that, or set of the panic lol
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[4:45] <piney> if it goes in to programming mode, you can get the installer code which can set the master code
[4:45] <fr0g911> i hate the panic its so loud
[4:46] <fr0g911> how do i get the master code
[4:46] <piney> one of those safewatch pro's?
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[4:46] <piney> if so, disconnect screw terminal 3 to power down the siren
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[4:47] <piney> that and unplug the phone before powering it up
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[4:47] <piney> but when you power it up, press * and #
[4:47] <fr0g911> i already disconnected the phone
[4:47] <piney> if keypad says 20, your good
[4:47] <piney> then you press #20, read the 4 numbers it displays
[4:48] <piney> on each number displaying it will beep
[4:48] <piney> the last number will beep twice
[4:48] <piney> thats the installer code
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[4:48] <piney> from there, *99 gets out of programming, and then disarm with installer code
[4:48] <fr0g911> aww im gonna try it tomorrow then
[4:49] <piney> if that works, changing the master code is fairly easy
[4:49] <fr0g911> the power is in the adtic how long do i have to get down stairs to the keypad before it goes off
[4:50] <piney> 30 seconds
[4:50] <piney> have someone help you if needed
[4:50] <fr0g911> i should of time
[4:50] <fr0g911> prob take me 10secs
[4:50] <fr0g911> if i down fall down the stairs
[4:50] <piney> tell them to press * and # when it makes noise (powering up)
[4:50] <fr0g911> if so you call 911
[4:54] <fr0g911> i'll let you know how it goes
[4:54] <piney> kk cool
[4:54] <fr0g911> if not i'll fly you down here
[4:54] <piney> if it goes, well, you should integrate the pi to it
[4:54] <A124> OM noMNoMno mNOm
[4:54] <fr0g911> yea and my foscam's have the setup for it on the back
[4:55] <piney> nutech ad2usb acts like an alarm panel keypad, but connects to usb and is documented well
[4:55] <A124> Hey froggy, what's your progress?
[4:55] <fr0g911> in what
[4:56] <fr0g911> leap frog?
[4:56] <A124> Nah, Fosscam
[4:56] <fr0g911> i got everything workings
[4:56] <fr0g911> cept xbmc
[4:56] <fr0g911> i put it on hold
[4:56] <fr0g911> its in my topic as undown
[4:56] <fr0g911> undone*
[4:56] <A124> Any links or anything on progress? :P
[4:57] <fr0g911> not yet i will do some docs soon i
[4:57] <fr0g911> i got ancii from xbmc of the cam
[4:57] <A124> Kay. I have only seen your face yesterday. Not a fancy vid though, hehe.
[4:57] <fr0g911> ascii
[4:58] <fr0g911> lol
[4:58] <ball> EBCDIC?
[4:58] <fr0g911> but the pi motion detection box works perfect
[4:58] * piney puts fr0g911's face in google image search
[4:58] <fr0g911> lol
[4:58] <fr0g911> like that tv show catfish
[4:58] <A124> Nothing found
[4:58] <fr0g911> search google image for him
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[4:59] <A124> Anyway.. it's PI! Yay! .. Umm, now to the question. Am I able to run DOS app on Pi? :O
[5:00] <A124> I can. Google helped
[5:00] <seba-> norton commander
[5:01] <A124> Anyone tried performance?
[5:01] <A124> Nah. I love mc...
[5:01] <fr0g911> wait something i havent tryed yet
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[5:02] <seba-> how should i do hardware encoding of webcam
[5:02] <fr0g911> since the pi is now streaming the ip cam threw it wonder if xbmc can see it
[5:02] <seba-> solve that
[5:02] <seba-> thank you
[5:02] <A124> I'm running remote ssh, else I would pop it up instantly,
[5:02] <fr0g911> i solved that seba-
[5:02] <fr0g911> send the pi to the sun
[5:03] <fr0g911> it will become solar powered and run harware encoding
[5:03] <A124> seba-: Compress the stream? LoL
[5:03] <seba-> well it supports hardware encoding
[5:03] <piney> i think with the cam module, we should see hardware encoding soon
[5:03] <seba-> yeah
[5:03] <seba-> i hope so too
[5:03] <seba-> now i can do shitty resolution and shitty fps
[5:03] <seba-> i want hd720
[5:03] <fr0g911> hehe
[5:04] <piney> 1080p@30 isn't doable software, wise, right?
[5:04] <A124> Well..
[5:04] <seba-> piney, usb doesn't handle that
[5:04] <A124> Pi is able to do it in HW
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[5:04] <A124> So.. just manage the cam to a steam and put it through
[5:04] <seba-> well on an EEEpc it works ok in software
[5:04] <seba-> 10 fps hd720
[5:06] <A124> Um... how to forward X from PI?
[5:06] * chupacabra installed openelec and is very happy with it. rock solid
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[5:07] * fr0g911 installed local beer from austin tx South Congress
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[5:09] <fr0g911> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/download/file.php?avatar=13028_1356476278.jpg
[5:09] * A124 seen openelec and is like: WOoow...
[5:09] <fr0g911> not a big fan of openelec
[5:10] <fr0g911> had too many things not working for me when i last used it
[5:10] * A124 is hungry. A124 need nom. A124 goes nom. Om nom nom nom
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[5:10] <fr0g911> lol my brother told me today dont hate on my food its nom
[5:10] <fr0g911> i was like nom?
[5:15] <A124> lol
[5:16] <fr0g911> i heard north korea wants to buy raspberry pi's from us for something we just dont know what
[5:17] <piney> really?
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[5:18] <ball> Has anyone made an X terminal image for Raspberry Pi?
[5:18] <fr0g911> rofl no they already have knockoffs
[5:18] <chupacabra> supercomputers
[5:19] <chupacabra> dont all distros have a terminal?
[5:19] <ball> chupacabra: terminal != X terminal.
[5:19] <chupacabra> how can one run nix without a term
[5:19] <ball> An X terminal just runs the X server and perhaps an xdm chooser
[5:19] <chupacabra> ya, xterm
[5:19] <ball> ...typically.
[5:20] <ball> xterm isn't an X terminal.
[5:20] <ball> (in the graphical terminal sense)
[5:20] <chupacabra> i been running nix since 78 and dont understand your meaning
[5:21] <ball> chupacabra: Did you never see a graphical terminal, that doesn't run X clients locally?
[5:21] <ball> ...doesn't have much of an OS installed locally? Doesn't have disks?
[5:21] <ball> These days they'd call it a "thin client"
[5:22] <ball> though there are subtle differences.
[5:22] <chupacabra> yes ive done ltsp for years
[5:22] <chupacabra> got it IBM approved
[5:22] <chupacabra> i know proper unix terminology
[5:22] <ball> There you go then. LTSP in its most basic form pushes out an X terminal to the thin clients.
[5:23] <chupacabra> oic your definition.
[5:23] <chupacabra> got it
[5:23] <A124> From tutorial: Step 5): reboot, with a command like:
[5:23] <A124> I don't get while we need to reboot on Linux?
[5:24] <chupacabra> it pushes out a whole X instance. Not just a terminal
[5:24] <ball> chupacabra: All I'm looking for on the Pi is an X terminal and drivers for graphics, keyboard, mouse and LAN
[5:24] <ball> ...and an xdm chooser.
[5:24] <chupacabra> ball try ssh -X pi
[5:24] <ball> ...perhaps sound too, if we wanted to get fancy.
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[5:25] <chupacabra> should be able to run X apps that way
[5:25] <ball> chupacabra: "ssh -X pi", assuming pi is the hostname, does it the wrong way around.
[5:25] <chupacabra> yes
[5:25] <chupacabra> if you want the whole desktop VNC
[5:26] <ball> ...runs the X clients on the Pi instead of the X server.
[5:26] <chupacabra> wrong way?
[5:26] * ball nods
[5:26] <chupacabra> what distro. my distro at the moment has no X
[5:27] <chupacabra> to test with
[5:28] * ball blinks
[5:28] <ball> That's what I was asking.
[5:29] <chupacabra> there is a command to get the whole desktop just by calling X
[5:29] <chupacabra> lemmee google a bit. X with an ip and :1 or something
[5:30] <fr0g911> startx ?
[5:30] <ball> chupacabra: Right, but in the traditional X terminal arrangement the desktop doesn't run on the Pi.
[5:30] <chupacabra> ya
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[5:30] <ball> ..it's mearly /displayed/ on the Pi.
[5:30] <chupacabra> couple of things you have to set first if i remember correctly
[5:30] <fr0g911> im lost didnt read whats going on
[5:30] <ball> ...with keyboard and mouse input sent down the wire to the host and graphics sent back up the wire to the Pi.
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[5:32] <ball> fr0g911: I wondered whether anyone had made a "thin client" or "graphical terminal" Linux image for the Raspberry Pi.
[5:32] <chupacabra> i used the command daily with the hacked EyeOpener
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[5:34] <fr0g911> wonder if there is away to send sound from my computer to the pi to the hdmi to the tv cause my pc doesnt have speakers im too lazy to hook them up
[5:34] <chupacabra> http://www.esi-cfd.com/content/view/705/205/
[5:35] * A124 sees 7MB frre on /. Ow... f...
[5:36] <fr0g911> hey A124 sounds like something is nom nom'ing your space
[5:36] <A124> fr0g911: Yeah. 2GB card and Ruby1.9.1 and 1.9.3
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[5:38] <fr0g911> oh check this out i was cleaning my master bedroom "Yall will like this", and forgot i had 3 samsung 32gb micro sd cards on the floor and i vacuumed them up i heard the sound though it was wires now i have to take apart the bag
[5:38] <SpeedEvil> yay!
[5:38] <ball> Well that's unfortunate.
[5:39] <fr0g911> they should still work currect
[5:39] <fr0g911> no bad clusters
[5:39] <SwK> fr0g911: as long as they arent all busted up
[5:39] <ball> There's a lot of static in a vaccuum cleaner.\
[5:39] <fr0g911> thats what i was thinking
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[5:41] <ball> I may just buy graphical terminals.
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[5:41] <ball> ...and keep my Raspberry Pi for potching with.
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[5:43] <piney> i need to order another sd card. my spare died :(
[5:43] <fr0g911> http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/18cjbw5xyvs8xjpg/original.jpg
[5:43] <piney> i want a fast usb thumb drive too, so might as well order both at the same time
[5:44] <fr0g911> where did you live again piney
[5:44] <piney> nj
[5:44] <godzirra> Is there a better way to handle detecting switches on gpio than using python's uinput? I'm trying to trigger a second joystick button, but as far as I can tell it only supports one joystick button? I need it to run in the background so I can run it with advmame.
[5:46] <piney> godzirra, i think you can do it if your program logic allows for it
[5:46] <piney> not a fan of python though, so can't help too much
[5:46] <ball> Ah, RPi-TC looks a lot like what I'm after.
[5:46] <piney> im sure someone here can help with python
[5:49] <fr0g911> piney http://www.mrelephant.com/online-deal/7-for-transcend-16gb-flash-memory-card/
[5:49] <fr0g911> 7 bucks
[5:49] <ball> I'm going to bed.
[5:49] <fr0g911> aww nvm sold out already
[5:49] <ball> Goodnight all.
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[5:50] <fr0g911> damn my brother got 5 of them
[5:50] <fr0g911> free shipping
[5:50] <piney> fr0g911, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211454
[5:50] <piney> looking at that
[5:50] * chupacabra had his latest pi shipped today
[5:50] <piney> reviews mention raspberry pi everywhere
[5:50] <fr0g911> hmm
[5:50] <fr0g911> thats pretty good
[5:50] <piney> and, i want this too: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220253
[5:51] <piney> it's a fast one
[5:51] <fr0g911> i got class 6 gb 8 for 2.50 from best buy
[5:51] <piney> good deal
[5:51] <fr0g911> yeah pretty good
[5:51] <fr0g911> free shipping too
[5:51] <piney> i have a PNY class 10 now in my pi
[5:51] <piney> nice having a back-up though
[5:52] <piney> or two
[5:52] <fr0g911> i have the 32gb samsung class 10 in all mine
[5:52] <piney> i seem to have issues updating the firmware
[5:52] <piney> corrupting the partition
[5:52] <piney> and having a spare would be nice
[5:52] <chupacabra> my first pi is now dedicated for media. probably common
[5:52] <fr0g911> mines done that afew times
[5:52] <piney> i hate it, such a pain
[5:52] <chupacabra> now need one to hack
[5:53] <fr0g911> i have one pi setup to auto flush the toilet pretty common right?
[5:53] <piney> i prepare for it corrupting every time now
[5:53] <chupacabra> lol
[5:53] <chupacabra> fr0g911,
[5:53] <fr0g911> cause the cat doesnt flush after he uses it
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[5:53] <piney> i want to over load a pi, would be nice to have too many tasks for one pi
[5:54] <chupacabra> i petted grumpy cat.... It was horrible
[5:54] <piney> already running out of pins on mine as it is
[5:54] <SwK> pineys I've overloaded by Pi
[5:54] <piney> SwK, doing what?
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[5:54] <SwK> piney: put 6 or 7 people in a voice conference bridge on it :P
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[5:54] <piney> lol
[5:55] <piney> i think i'll be there when i add one or two cameras
[5:55] <SwK> transcoding the audio to SLIN then mixing it for 6 streams does it every time heh
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[5:55] <piney> i need to tune mysql still, but before i put mysql on there, i was using about 30m ram
[5:55] <godzirra> piney: Well, rpi-gpio and uinput is the only way I know how to do it, thats why I'm looking for other options ;)
[5:55] <piney> now im up to 88m
[5:55] <fr0g911> i got 3 cams on mine so far piney
[5:56] <fr0g911> im gonna add like about 12 more tomorrow
[5:56] <fr0g911> see what it does with 15
[5:56] <piney> godzirra, http://learn.adafruit.com/playing-sounds-and-using-buttons-with-raspberry-pi/overview
[5:56] <piney> im fairly sure thats what you are following tho
[5:56] <godzirra> Thanks. I'll read through.
[5:56] <chupacabra> fr0g911, running zoneminder?
[5:56] <piney> closest that i have found
[5:57] <piney> fr0g911, whats the load average now?
[5:57] <fr0g911> no chupacabra that takes waaayyy to much im using motion
[5:57] <godzirra> Hrm.
[5:57] <chupacabra> url?
[5:57] <godzirra> piney: Yeah, I read through that, but that is making system calls.
[5:57] <godzirra> That won't work inside another program.
[5:57] <chupacabra> godzirra, great nick
[5:57] <godzirra> chupacabra: yours too!
[5:57] <piney> godzirra, what's the end goal?
[5:57] <chupacabra> tks
[5:57] <piney> mind sharing?
[5:57] <godzirra> All I can think of "What'd you call it griff? A chupa thingie?
[5:57] <godzirra> "
[5:57] <godzirra> piney: Just a mame cabinet.
[5:58] <godzirra> i.e. joystick and 6 buttons.
[5:58] <chupacabra> fr0g911, motion?
[5:58] <fr0g911> how do i see that again i forgot piney /proc/loadavg or something?
[5:58] <godzirra> piney: the problem is that the way I have it setup now to detect the joystick uses uinput to emulate joystick presses for mame.
[5:58] <godzirra> And it seems to only allow for one joystick button press
[5:58] <fr0g911> aww forgot the cat
[5:58] <fr0g911> 2.11 2.07 2.10 3/74 29893
[5:59] <godzirra> chupacabra: http://learn.adafruit.com/playing-sounds-and-using-buttons-with-raspberry-pi/overview
[5:59] <piney> would help if i knew what mame was
[5:59] <godzirra> Woops.
[5:59] <godzirra> chupacabra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yq_0KuXu64
[5:59] <chupacabra> tks
[5:59] <godzirra> chupacabra: that's the video that the chupa thingie came from :)
[5:59] <fr0g911> thats the load piney
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[6:00] <piney> kind of high already, will be interesting seeing what adding more would do
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[6:00] <piney> i wonder if that load is IO or CPU related now lol
[6:00] <fr0g911> its also running 2 eggdrops
[6:00] <piney> or both
[6:01] <piney> i'm about 0.5 load recently
[6:01] <SwK> piney: I get about 30% CPU utilization w/ 1 call USB Audio to SIP with G711u RTP stream and ZRTP encryption on the RTP heh
[6:02] <piney> load average: 1.15, 0.69, 0.61 i take that back
[6:02] <piney> not bad
[6:02] <godzirra> piney: does that make sense?
[6:03] <fr0g911> hey i like theses commands
[6:03] <fr0g911> ps aux | awk '{print $11}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nk1 | tail -n5
[6:03] <fr0g911> ps aux | awk '{print $1}' | sort | uniq -c | sort -nk1 | tail -n5
[6:03] * A124 is nuts. Is connecter from Windows to Pi, running under DosBox 350+MB application which is mounted from Windows samba share, with direct IO. *Blasphemy*
[6:03] <piney> godzirra, yea, i don't know what you need from here though
[6:03] <fr0g911> Both of those will provide information on how many threads are running of one service or user.
[6:04] <piney> i know I could do it in C with enough time, but that's my language of choice
[6:04] <godzirra> yeah.
[6:04] <godzirra> Not sure if I could do it as a background process though
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[6:05] <piney> godzirra, i would consider putting a thread on the raspberrypi.org forum describing what you are doing, and asking how
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[6:06] <fr0g911> good idea
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[6:06] <godzirra> okay.
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[6:17] <fr0g911> night all see ya tomorrow wish me luck on this install 5 cams and power splitting into cat5 lines
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[6:23] <edman007> does the I2C bus run at 1.7MHz (can it be configured to do it at least)
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[6:24] <[Saint]> Is there some super-secret way to make sure wireless keyboards "just work"?
[6:25] <[Saint]> I seem to be having a heck of a time with repeated key presses, and missed key presses.
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[6:28] <[Saint]> I'm well within the limits of power consumption, afaik.
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[6:28] <mike_t> edman007, modinfo i2c-bcm2708
[6:28] <edman007> ahh, thanks
[6:29] <[Saint]> the dongle for mouse/keyboard draws a tiny 50mA
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[6:44] <A124> So.. personal experiences: Ruby performance is 10 times slower than modern desktop.. which is cool
[6:44] <godzirra> night.
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[6:44] <A124> And DosBox over Samba mount.. is IO bottlenect, not minding CPU
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[6:46] <A124> I guess the problem is hardfloat support.
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[7:00] <Xark> A124: Hardfloat is IO bottleneck?
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[7:09] <RedPenguin> hey all
[7:10] <RedPenguin> I asked this in -dev but it's been like 2 days no response lol
[7:10] <RedPenguin> anyway, does anybody know why raspi, arm-unknown-gnueabi cross-compiler produces larger files than compiling on a Pi itself?
[7:10] <RedPenguin> I compiled librtmp and it made 1.8 (1.5 stripped) vs a 160-200kb/s file (normal size) on the actual Pi (raspbmc)
[7:14] <Ekus> anyone that has worked some/alot with boards for midi/dmx? looking for staters pointers and choice of boards to go from there
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[8:54] <Zhirgoyt> Good morning!
[8:54] <schnuws> goodmorning!
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[8:54] <ShiftPlusOne> Morning
[8:54] <Zhirgoyt> Are we pitastic today?
[8:55] <schnuws> as always
[8:55] <Zhirgoyt> Awesome.
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[8:55] <Zhirgoyt> Has anyone tried out the google talk robot on the Pi? http://mitchtech.net/raspberry-pi-google-talk-robot/
[8:56] <Zhirgoyt> I've gotten it to work but it only stays responsive for a few minutes. And if I input a unknown shell command it hangs.
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[8:56] <schnuws> how wierd
[8:57] <Zhirgoyt> Yes. And yesterday I tried something that would restart it every few minutes, as suggested on some forum, but I must've done something wrong because it just started new ones.
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[8:58] <Zhirgoyt> But even so it seems weird that it wouldn't keep working on it's own if started by a crontab.
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[9:04] <gordonDrogon> Morning Oh great mass of raspberry pips that get stuck in your teeth ...
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[9:06] <FR^2> ohio
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[9:47] <Zhirgoyt> Why isn't anyone making more Pi-charts?
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[9:47] <Zhirgoyt> Not for any particular reason.
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[9:50] <[Saint]> ...maybe, because such a thing doesn't exist? :)
[9:51] <[Saint]> Though, props on the amazingly weak pi joke - heh.
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[9:54] * [Saint] plays along
[9:54] <[Saint]> Here's a Pi pie chart: http://goo.gl/sUWqP
[9:55] <Zhirgoyt> The amazingly weak puns are my specialty.
[9:55] <Zhirgoyt> And lols on the pi-chart.
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[9:57] <Jck_true> And required XKCD http://xkcd.com/688/
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[10:19] <Jck_true> Can I stab my router? :| Seriously - It will only let me forward one single port - Trying to add another results in the right 15 secs "Applying setup" but the port never gets listed
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[10:22] <nid0> what crummy router is that?
[10:22] <Jck_true> SE551
[10:23] <nid0> using firefox?
[10:23] <Jck_true> ? No - Chrome
[10:24] <gordonDrogon> Jck_true, use a Pi as a router (which I'd not normally advocate, but in this instance it might be better than what you have!)
[10:24] <nid0> try using ie if available
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[10:25] <Jck_true> nid0: Will do
[10:25] <gordonDrogon> ie: because it's the sound you make when trying to use it.. yaieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[10:25] <kaste> gordonDrogon: why would you not recommend using it as a router?
[10:25] <kaste> throughput is likely low but other than that?
[10:25] <gordonDrogon> kaste, the usb - the one usb - which all traffic has to go over - and its half duplex.
[10:26] <nid0> there isnt much other than that, throughput sucks
[10:26] <gordonDrogon> kaste, for low throughput it should be ok.
[10:26] <nid0> a router's one fundamental job is providing throughput from one place to another
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[10:26] <Jck_true> gordonDrogon: Oh come on! It's an awesome router - It almost spits out 700kB/sec... (And after an hour or two it drops to 400kB/sec) - It randomly locks up when you flood the NAT table and none of the 3 printers i got around is support by it's buildt in USB print server
[10:26] <gordonDrogon> it will depend on your broadband supply - I get 15Mb/sec in and 1Mb/sec out - I suspect a Pi can manage that, but would be doubtfull for much more ...
[10:26] <Jck_true> What's not to love about it
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[10:27] <gordonDrogon> Jck_true, you're talking about your SE551 there, aren't you?
[10:27] <Jck_true> gordonDrogon: Yeah :P
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[10:27] <Lartza> Anyone compiling with -Os CFLAGS for RPi?
[10:28] <Lartza> I am wondering how that compares to O2, but in 512MB RPi I think O2 would be better
[10:28] <gordonDrogon> -O2 usually here. don't know if it makes much difference...
[10:29] <Jck_true> I always compile with -Wanal -Oral
[10:29] <Jck_true> Oh right - Maners -sorry
[10:29] <Lartza> gordonDrogon, -Os is just smaller binaries and on some systems that could get performance gains, not sure on RPi though
[10:29] <Lartza> It could be the system had to be even more limited in terms of memory than RPi
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[10:30] <ozancaglayan> hello
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[10:30] <Zhirgoyt> If I use Screen to run a python-script, do I also need to use nohup, or would it not make a difference?
[10:30] <gordonDrogon> might run a quick test... brb.
[10:31] <Lartza> -Os vs -O2 should literally be just CONFIG_CC_OPTIMIZE_FOR_SIZE=y :)
[10:31] <ozancaglayan> are there any news or fixes for the USB packet loss problems on RPi?
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[10:32] <ozancaglayan> or are there people who experience that problem?
[10:32] <ParkerR> Zhirgoyt, screen will continue to run the pyhton script.
[10:32] <ParkerR> *python
[10:32] <Zhirgoyt> Strange. I have been trying to run the raspi_gtalk_robot but it keeps going unresponsive after a few minutes. I'm running it with screen
[10:33] <ParkerR> Hmm what errors (if any) does it print to the screen instance?
[10:33] <Zhirgoyt> Nothing. It just stops responding to chat messages.
[10:34] <Zhirgoyt> But I can still ssh into the pi and reattach the screen.
[10:34] <Zhirgoyt> but still no errors
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[10:37] <Zhirgoyt> It does say "Warning:unable to establish secure connection - TLS failed!" when I start it, but it still responds to commands for a few minutes.
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[10:38] <Lartza> Is qemu faster to compile than an actual RPi? I am hoping it is
[10:39] <Lartza> Running QEMU inside VirtualBox with Gentoo guest and Windows host ;)
[10:39] <ShiftPlusOne> Lartza, I think so, yes.
[10:39] <ShiftPlusOne> depends on your computer 'course
[10:39] <Lartza> Yeah well i3 vs arm1176 :P
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[10:40] <Lartza> Trying to get a working armv6zk Gentoo to transfer to the RPi then
[10:40] <Lartza> so far so good
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[10:44] <gordonDrogon> ok. -O3: Compile time: 1m53, code size: 160425, benchmark rune-time: 15s.
[10:45] <gordonDrogon> -Os: Compile time: 1m29, code size: 143797, benchmark run-time: 17s
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[10:45] <gordonDrogon> so quicker compile, smaller code but longer execution time.
[10:45] <gordonDrogon> this is my BASIC interpreter fwiw.
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[10:46] <gordonDrogon> it's about 20K lines of C.
[10:47] <Jck_true> Fast compile? TCC for the win :)
[10:47] <Jck_true> Sadly wont run on ARM :(
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[10:49] <Jck_true> Or it does apprently! "TCC now supports compilation from standard input and the arm eabi."
[10:50] <gordonDrogon> tcc?
[10:50] <Jck_true> http://bellard.org/tcc/
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[10:52] <Zhirgoyt> Anyone know of a way to send gtalk-messages through siri? I'm guessing it's not possible...
[10:52] <Jck_true> Zhirgoyt: Siri proxy - With an XMPP bot
[10:52] <Jck_true> It's possible
[10:53] <Jck_true> Zhirgoyt: https://github.com/plamoni/SiriProxy - Along with an XMPP lib of your favorit choice :)
[10:54] <Zhirgoyt> Yeah, but I haven't gotten Siri proxy to work :/ I was thinking I could just get the "normal siri" to send gtalk messages to my Pi's gtalk-account
[10:54] <Zhirgoyt> It's an ugly and slow workaround, but still.
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[10:55] <Jck_true> No clue then - My iPod 2G from 2008 never supported Siri :D
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[10:58] <Zhirgoyt> Hehe. Thanks anyways :)
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[11:00] <Jck_true> Zhirgoyt: May I be cirous and ask what trouble you hit with SiriProxy?
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[11:04] <Zhirgoyt> Well "trouble" might be a strong word. The RPi is my first go at linux and after gotten it to work the way I "wanted", which wasn't as easy as I had hoped, I took a look at the instructions for the SiriProxy and aswell as giving me a headache I saw that it can only be used over wifi, and that kind of negates my area of usage if I can't use it from a remote location.
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[11:05] <Zhirgoyt> So basically, I haven't tried it, because I though there must be a better way and I'm afraid of destroying my "working" system.
[11:05] <[Saint]> ...it can run a hacked up Siri clone, though.
[11:06] <[Saint]> whoah - backlog buffer was way off.
[11:06] <[Saint]> whoops.
[11:07] <Zhirgoyt> I'm sorry?
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[11:08] <[Saint]> I was replying to something ~20 minutes prior. Quassel playing tricks on me.
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[11:08] <Zhirgoyt> Ah, okay ;) Funny that it was related to what we were talking about. Siri.
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[11:15] <Jck_true> Zhirgoyt: Well you can access it externally if your phone is jailbroken - But that's more work :) (Port forwarding on your router)
[11:16] <Zhirgoyt> Yeah, and through VPN aswell, but it seems like such a hassle.
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[11:18] <Zhirgoyt> If I could just get the raspi_gtalk_robot to keep going I could build a personal iPhone-app to send commands with, but it still drops out after just a couple minutes. Anyone know of a very basic python-script to monitor a gtalk-chat?
[11:19] <Jck_true> Zhirgoyt: Has to be Python?
[11:20] <Jck_true> Sorta on topic I've got a half finished XMPP bot written in PHP :D
[11:20] <Zhirgoyt> No, not really, it's just I understand Python to an extent. I'm all ears.
[11:21] <gordonDrogon> hurrah. wiringPi now supports up to 4 74x595's chained together for additional GPIO via it's standard digitalWrite() functions!
[11:21] <Jck_true> Ruby and XMPP4R is pretty good :)
[11:21] <Jck_true> http://home.gna.org/xmpp4r/
[11:21] <gordonDrogon> no-longer will I have to answer questions on how to interface them to the Pi :) (well that's my plan!)
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[11:22] <Zhirgoyt> Jck_true: How do you run that on the RPi? And can you use it to control it?
[11:22] <Jck_true> Zhirgoyt: And XMPP4R-Simple is a lib on top that makes things a bit easier
[11:22] <Jck_true> Zhirgoyt: What you trying to accomplish?
[11:22] <Jck_true> And yes it runs on Ruby and Ruby runs on the Pi :)
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[11:26] <Zhirgoyt> I would like to use the gtalk_chat to control the RPi. I don't want to have to SSH into it every time I want to do a command.
[11:26] <Jck_true> Zhirgoyt: You could do that
[11:26] <Zhirgoyt> So basically I want to find/write a script where I can set commands that when posted from an "admin" gtalk_account will execute certain things
[11:27] <gordonDrogon> and I think that calls for a coffee :)
[11:27] <Zhirgoyt> and I want it to just run in the background without going unresponsive after a few mins
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[11:27] <Zhirgoyt> Sounds like a plan gordonDrogon.
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[11:29] <Zhirgoyt> Jck_true: Do you have any tips on where I could start with this project? :)
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[11:29] <Jck_true> Zhirgoyt: http://barkingiguana.com/2008/05/28/xmpp4r-simple-makes-xmpp-in-ruby-uhh-simple/
[11:30] <Jck_true> Zhirgoyt: I'll just play a bit with that infact :D
[11:31] <Zhirgoyt> Jck_true: Cool! Thanks alot.
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[11:39] <alex88> so, strange thing, I one flashed occidentalis with dd and it worked, then flashed raspbmc and it worked, now flashing back occidentalis and it doesn't boot
[11:39] <alex88> seems like "once you try raspbmc you'll never go back" :)
[11:39] <alex88> someone else had the same issue?
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[11:48] <ShiftPlusOne> alex88, raspbmc has nothing to do with it,
[11:49] <alex88> ShiftPlusOne: but seem strange, since flashing back raspbmc works fine
[11:49] <ShiftPlusOne> what about raspbian?
[11:50] <alex88> ShiftPlusOne: well, I've tested the installer, but let me try with raw image
[11:50] <ShiftPlusOne> the installer isn't the recommended installation method. Use the img file from the raspberrypi.org download page.
[11:50] <malik> might be a different hdmi configuration. raspbmc worked for me out of the box but i had to reconfigure openelec or something
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[12:00] <alex88> ShiftPlusOne: yup that's the idea
[12:00] <alex88> but I wanted occidentalis due the kernel patches
[12:01] <ShiftPlusOne> It sounds like the pi is choking on that kernel or the firmware.
[12:02] <alex88> ShiftPlusOne: but I've used the same image as 1 month ago which worked perfectly
[12:03] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, well... magic.
[12:03] <alex88> also in case of kernel errors it at least tries to boot
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[12:09] <gordonDrogon> what kernel patches have they added to the occidentalis release?
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[12:09] <gordonDrogon> (I've not really been paying attention)
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[12:19] <zipkid> window next
[12:19] <zipkid> with /
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[12:21] <alex88> gordonDrogon: Hexxeh firmware, I2C and hardware SPI support, One wire support on GPIO #4 when loaded
[12:21] <alex88> I just followed their tut about 1-wire
[12:21] <alex88> that's why I started with that
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[12:25] <ShiftPlusOne> alex88, tried raspbian yet?
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[12:30] <alex88> ShiftPlusOne: downloading :)
[12:31] <ShiftPlusOne> dial-up?
[12:31] <ShiftPlusOne> =p
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[12:31] <alex88> italy :D I think I've said enough :P
[12:31] <alex88> 400Kb/s
[12:31] <alex88> nothing more
[12:31] <ShiftPlusOne> heh
[12:31] <gordonDrogon> alex88, all that is in the standard raspbian kernel and has been for about 6 months now ...
[12:32] <alex88> btw, don't have the rPi here at work, gonna try at lunch :)
[12:32] <alex88> gordonDrogon: nice to know, so if it works I can stay with it
[12:32] * alex88 is a debian fan
[12:32] <gordonDrogon> not 100% sure about 1W but I've been using SPI and I2C for at least that time now.
[12:32] <gordonDrogon> certinaly, you can modload the module. (same for SPI and I2C)
[12:33] <Coffe> alex88: so you re here to :)
[12:33] <gordonDrogon> maybe I'll add in a 1w loader in the gpio command too...
[12:33] <alex88> Coffe: eheh :) since I've been here since 2 days due that problem :) sharing the story :P
[12:34] <Coffe> alex88: you can not run PM on a pi :P
[12:34] <alex88> PM?
[12:34] <alex88> you mean the other channel we're on? :P
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[12:40] <Coffe> *nods*
[12:41] <alex88> eheh, maybe model C will have vd-t!
[12:41] <alex88> :D
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[12:46] <mike_t> alex88, what is vd-t?
[12:48] <alex88> mike_t: wops, was vt-d (or also vt-x) :)
[12:48] <alex88> btw, just a joke since Coffe tol me that I cannot run proxmox (virtualization platform) on a pi
[12:48] <alex88> since we're also in that channel
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[12:49] <mike_t> :)))
[12:49] <alex88> and vt-d vt-x are intel virtualization technologies required by most of the virtualization hypervisors to run VM
[12:50] <Jck_true> alex88: I just had flashbacks to the guy who joined and asked if the Model A would have USB3.0 ports....
[12:51] <alex88> Jck_true: I think USB is much less far away than vt-x :)
[12:51] <Jck_true> I tried explaining him that most 1000 USD computers doesn't even USB3.0 - and he was expecting a 35$ "toy" to have it :D
[12:53] <steve_rox2> hehe
[12:53] <alex88> like "why not?", maybe the cpu isn't neither able to handle such bandwith...
[12:53] <Jck_true> Jck_true: I wonder if Intel might jump on the ARM wagon eventually
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[12:53] <ShiftPlusOne> O_o
[12:53] <steve_rox> crazy ppl
[12:54] <steve_rox> next he will want sata/firewire ?
[12:54] <Jck_true> well... Sata wouldn't be that crazy
[12:54] <ShiftPlusOne> sata is a common request for pi actually
[12:54] <steve_rox> but expensive
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[12:54] <Jck_true> steve_rox: There's ARM PogoPlug things with Sata ports for 99USD
[12:55] <Hodapp> 99USD? You can find PogoPlugs with SATA ports for like $20-$25
[12:55] <steve_rox> think i rember that device
[12:55] <steve_rox> that thing still being made?
[12:55] <Hodapp> check the site formerly known as buy.com
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[12:56] <steve_rox> probly payed more than they wanted for that domain name
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[12:57] <steve_rox> the term pogoplug brings up some cloud data storage service now
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[12:57] <Jck_true> OpenPlug Ehh there was a bunch of them - Think I still have the bookmarks
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[13:00] <Jck_true> Oh the irony... Company I work at among other things makes small wireless tempsensors for food production - Yet our fridge manages to freeze our food and nobody does anything about
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[13:08] <RaTTuS|BIG> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HeEWtNaW6KE <- ok not raspberry pi but still pretty damn awesome
[13:09] <gordonDrogon> RaTTuS|BIG, a-ha - yes - about the 5th time now :)
[13:09] <RaTTuS|BIG> ;-p
[13:10] <gordonDrogon> and yes, I was a kid of that era... or just before...
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[13:12] <RaTTuS|BIG> I was .. and if off school ill in the 70's there was no TV in the mornings - until schools programs .....
[13:12] <RaTTuS|BIG> ooh isd that he time... back after a meeting and lunch
[13:12] <gordonDrogon> :)
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[13:19] <Zhirgoyt> Jck_true: I seem to have got it working with a daemon called Jabberd. :)
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[13:25] <Zhirgoyt> and by "it" i mean the gtalk/jabber-robot
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[13:36] <gordonDrogon> woo hoo! New Pibow cases have turned up!
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[13:45] <gordonDrogon> Hm. and I appear to have lost a Pi which isn't good )-:
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[13:46] <gordonDrogon> Bother.
[13:46] <lee> hmm, Custom PC just arrived, "raspberry pi special"
[13:47] <gordonDrogon> what makes it special?
[13:49] <lee> p92-106 is all pi related
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[13:52] <steve_rox> how do you loose a pi?
[13:52] <gordonDrogon> no idea. I suspect I've either left it in Sheffield or it might have been lifted.
[13:53] <seba-> can you still ping it?
[13:53] <gordonDrogon> er s/Sheffield/Manchester/
[13:53] <gordonDrogon> no - it's not plugged in!
[13:53] <steve_rox> haha
[13:54] <gordonDrogon> it was brand new - I only plugged it in once to check it and update the SD card.
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[13:54] <steve_rox> i still havent got a grand purpose for my pi yet
[13:55] <seba-> steve_rox, what about a gps guided nuclear balistic missile?
[13:55] <chod> a beer cooler monitor
[13:55] <chod> a beer pourer
[13:55] <steve_rox> i see ppl rigging buttons thu gpio , so i thought why not hack a usb keyboard controller to get more keys and save some gpio pins?
[13:55] <seba-> because it's hard
[13:56] <steve_rox> whys that
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> annoying. I was going to sell it to the local Linux User Group.
[13:56] <gordonDrogon> so now I have a spare PiBow case - in "Toxic Yellow" :)
[13:56] <ozancaglayan> r
[13:56] * gordonDrogon will turn his office upside down again.
[13:57] <steve_rox> pi may still show up yet
[13:57] <gordonDrogon> I really don't think I took it to Manchester.
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[14:04] <[Saint]> it probably took the metrolink to a bad part of town and is now hooked on heroin.
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[14:05] <[Saint]> rouge pi quickly fall into depression from under-use and seek solace in substance abuse.
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[14:16] <gordonDrogon> well I'm annoyed and stumped as to its whereabouts.
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[15:18] <Zhirgoyt> good afternoon
[15:19] <IT_Sean> Good morning.
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[15:20] <Zhirgoyt> Does anyone know how to find errors with daemons? I thought I had one running but then all of a sudden it stopped.
[15:21] <Jck_true> Zhirgoyt: /var/log/syslog (Or depending on your daemon it might have it's own log in /var/log/
[15:22] <Zhirgoyt> Jck_true: Thanks! Did you get the jabber-bot working?
[15:24] <Jck_true> Zhirgoyt: Not really - My Ruby installation on my laptop has some encoding issues :)
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[15:27] <Zhirgoyt> Jck_true: I got it working with something called "jabberd"
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[15:28] <Zhirgoyt> Jck_true: but right now i can't for the life of me find where i got it from, lol
[15:29] <Jck_true> Zhirgoyt: Haha - If you ever touch PHP you can check out my proof of concept Jabber/XMPP bot https://bitbucket.org/furyfire/jabberbot
[15:30] <Zhirgoyt> Jck_true: I will! :)
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[15:31] <Jck_true> Zhirgoyt: It should run in it's current version but not entirely sure - It's mostly an experiement for me with new PHP features like namespaces etc
[15:32] <Zhirgoyt> Jck_true: I'll try to give it a test later. Found the jabber-bot btw: https://code.google.com/p/rpi-jabber/wiki/GettingStarted
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[15:34] <Jck_true> Zhirgoyt: Nice
[15:34] <Jck_true> Never really thought there was a use to that stuff - But maybe there is :)
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[15:34] <Jck_true> Zhirgoyt: You want notifications on your iPhone on-the-go right?
[15:36] <Zhirgoyt> Jck_true: Well yes. But I would also like to give commands to the Pi from afar.
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[15:47] <RiXtEr> Zhirgoyt, I got hacked once at work and found a perl based irc bot that would respond only to the owner and would run ANY shell command...
[15:47] <RiXtEr> Zhirgoyt, if you'd like I can see if I still have it around.
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[15:48] <Zhirgoyt> That would be lovely!
[15:48] <Zhirgoyt> Thank you.
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[16:19] <Zencrypter> Hi everybody !
[16:19] <Zencrypter> I'm trying to get my Samsung-ML1674 working...
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[16:19] <Zencrypter> I can send jobs but nothing happens :(
[16:19] <steve_rox> whats a one of them
[16:21] <Zencrypter> Here is what I get in /var/log/syslog :
[16:21] <Zencrypter> http://pastebin.com/Q7iZMrEU
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[16:25] <Zencrypter> Do you have any idea ?
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[16:25] <Zencrypter> My printer worked well with USB Redirector for a while
[16:25] <Zencrypter> And a kernel upgrade made this collapse :??
[16:25] <Zencrypter> So, I'm trying to get it working again... :(
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[16:31] <f8l> Hello from a Pi. :-)
[16:32] <DDave> hello :)
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[16:34] <Encrypt> f8l, Hi :)
[16:35] * chod nods
[16:35] <Encrypt> No idea for the usb port reseted ?
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[16:40] <f8l> I've read that hot-plugging is dangerous, so I'll need to reboot somehow to attach a disc. I hope it works under limited current???
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[16:42] <Encrypt> f8l, Yes, very dangerous
[16:42] <Encrypt> f8l, On mine, my mother unplugged it while hoovering...
[16:42] <Encrypt> The system was completely "broken"...
[16:43] <f8l> Encrypt: You mean the hardware?
[16:43] <Encrypt> No, Raspbian
[16:44] <Encrypt> I had to reinstall everything :(
[16:44] <Encrypt> fsck didn't succeed is solving the problem...
[16:44] <f8l> Encrypt: Well, that's normal I guess. Which system likes unclean filesystems?
[16:44] <Encrypt> Yes, sure
[16:45] <Encrypt> But fsck can repair a filesystem
[16:45] <f8l> Encrypt: It should replay the log. It's strange it didn't repair your system.
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[16:46] <Encrypt> There were too many unwanted data written when the Pi was unplugged, on the SD card
[16:46] <ivotkl> Hello everyone. I'm testing HD vids on the pi after setting it up on hdmi_mode=31. Does it come with a pre-installed media player?
[16:47] <f8l> On my laptop I use btrfs which is currently in state of agony. It doesn't mount rw automatically. It somehow works though.
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[16:47] <f8l> ivotkl: Whic
[16:47] <ivotkl> Raspbian
[16:47] <f8l> ivotkl: You read my mind. ;-)
[16:47] <ivotkl> =)
[16:48] <f8l> ivotkl: I'd try mplayer or vlc. Those are likely to be installed.
[16:49] <Encrypt> Well, it works again...
[16:49] <DDave> has there been a fix for the sticky keys some keyboards have?
[16:49] <ivotkl> f8l: Thanks. Will try. I don't see them installed. Is there any way to port them and install them from an usb? I currently do not have internet connection where the Pi is located.
[16:49] <f8l> DDave: It's a problem with underpowered USB ports I guess.
[16:50] <ivotkl> Should I try Debian package download?
[16:50] <DDave> Alright, Ill try it out with a powered usb hub and see if it still happens
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[16:50] <ivotkl> f8l: Should I try Debian package download?
[16:50] <Encrypt> DDave, What's your problem exactly ?
[16:50] <ivotkl> (VLC)
[16:50] <f8l> ivotkl: Yes, but you may end up downloading all the requirements by hand. Give me a moment. I'll find a command which will list them for you.
[16:51] <DDave> Encrypt, same issues most users have had (forum), I wasnt sure if it had been fixed. Basically you type, sometimes the keys arent read, other times they start "sticking", like you type "r" once and you get "rrrrrrrrrrrrrr"
[16:51] <ivotkl> f8l: The thing is that there is no internet available for the time being for the Pi.
[16:53] <f8l> ivotkl: `apt-get --print-uris install ??package??` This will give you a list of packages to download, so you can do it in one round trip. I'd redirect it to a file and than feed to wget on a Internet-connected box.
[16:53] <Encrypt> DDave, Ok...
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[16:54] <Encrypt> DDave, Yes, try a powered Hub...
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[16:54] <Encrypt> I've bought this one :
[16:54] <Encrypt> http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00015233.html
[16:55] <Encrypt> It works fine
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[16:55] <DDave> thanks / merci
[16:55] <Encrypt> The only thing you mustn't do is to plus the RPi on the fast charging port...
[16:55] <Encrypt> plug*
[16:55] <DDave> :)
[16:55] <Encrypt> DDave, De rien ;)
[16:56] <Encrypt> DDave, There's also this one with more ports : http://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00020885.html
[16:56] <DDave> ty
[16:57] <ivotkl> f8l: Great. Now. This box where I'm typing belongs to my parents and has Crapdows instead of Linux.
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[16:57] <DDave> So powering the rpi from the hub itself and using the hub as a hub isnt gonna work right?
[16:57] <f8l> I'm going off-line to attach the disc. Wish me luck. ;-)
[16:57] <ivotkl> Good luck and thanks!
[16:57] <Encrypt> DDave, No, it will work !
[16:57] <f8l> ivotkl: wget has been ported there IIRC.
[16:58] <Encrypt> DDave, You can power the Pi using one of the ports, and also plugging the HUB on one of the USB ports
[16:58] <Encrypt> So, the HUB powers and let you have more USB ports on the Pi ! :)
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[17:00] <[Saint]> ...it's like an infinite usb loop
[17:00] <[Saint]> heh :)
[17:00] <Encrypt> :??
[17:01] <Encrypt> The only thing is that no data is transmitted through the Power Plug ! :??
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[17:01] <DDave> Yeah.. its kinda confusing :D
[17:01] <DDave> Thanks you both
[17:02] <Encrypt> DDave, By the way, you can apparently power the Raspberry Pi with the D-link DUB-H7
[17:02] <DDave> because that would spare one psu :)
[17:02] <chod> there is a POE adaptor for the pi
[17:02] <Encrypt> This is an interesting point since in my school, a screen, a loudspeaker... is connected to the Pi
[17:02] <DDave> I dont have a PoE enabled router sadly
[17:02] <[Saint]> you could possibly still use the port that was powering the pi itself for data if you used a usb Y-cable.
[17:02] <Encrypt> And adding a USB Flash Drive to the Pi makes it shut down (Not enough power)
[17:02] <[Saint]> but that seems super hacky and weird.
[17:03] <Encrypt> So I would recommend buying the DUB-H7
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[17:05] <xrosnight> is there anyone who knows the tutorial about how to compile kernel on raspberry pi? Thanks
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[17:10] <Encrypt> xrosnight, No, sorry :(
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[17:11] <martk100> I am getting the following erro when trying to compile taglib as part of xbmc :-"make: *** [taglib-1.8.tar.gz] Error 23". What is error 23?
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[17:16] <Encrypt> Can anybody tell me whether he or she has "rpi-3.2.27" in /usr/src please ?
[17:16] <Encrypt> I think I downloaded it but I'm not sure...
[17:19] <Encrypt> By the way, I also have /var/swap but since I created a swap partition, I can remove it, right ?
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[17:24] <f8l> I guess it works. :-)
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[17:32] <RoyK> how's the webcam status these days?
[17:33] <RoyK> seems my pi is crashing if I attempt to use one
[17:33] * IT_Sean ordered the stuff he needs to make his raspi case
[17:33] <RoyK> lego?
[17:33] <DDave> it noms too much electricity, probably ;)
[17:33] <DDave> 3d-printer? :D
[17:33] <IT_Sean> nope
[17:34] <IT_Sean> Building a wooden case that will house the raspi, the wifi <-> ethernet bridge i am using, and a 4 port powered USB hub.
[17:34] <RoyK> DDave: no, voltages are good, but the pi dies even with only the cam attached after some minutes
[17:34] <IT_Sean> ... and run it all off of one power supply.
[17:34] <RoyK> IT_Sean: plywood?
[17:35] <IT_Sean> RoyK: nah. Got a nice unfinished wooden box i'm going to stain and polish.
[17:35] <DDave> Sounds good :)
[17:35] <IT_Sean> Going to break out some of the LEDs as well.
[17:35] * RoyK is in the process of building a pinhole camera from plywood
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[17:38] <IT_Sean> HDMI and 4 USB ports will be exposed at the back, as well as the power goesinta. Raspi power, bridge power, and network status will be indicated by 4 red LEDs at the front. probably 4mm dome LEDs, sanded flush.
[17:38] <FR^2> RoyK: I've got one running, though at a powered usb hub, since wlan usb stick + webcam draws too much power
[17:39] <Encrypt> I have to go !
[17:39] <Encrypt> Bye all :)
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[17:41] <IT_Sean> LEDs will be raspi power, raspi network link, bridge ethernet, and bridge wifi link. Placement is yet to be determined.
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[17:44] <RoyK> rpi should come with a decent psu plug, not just the usb micro
[17:44] <RoyK> most usb chargers suck rather badly
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[17:47] <[Saint]> you can power it from the standard USB plug too.
[17:47] <[Saint]> well - later hardware revisions allow this
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[18:00] <zzzoid> how can I run a OpenGL app using ssh and get it to display on the hdmi?
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[18:02] <RaTTuS|BIG> export DISPLAY=0:0
[18:02] <RaTTuS|BIG> ooh that time ... /me gone
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[18:04] <swart> zzzoid: http://opengles-book.com/,
[18:04] <swart> no comma :p
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[18:04] <swart> if you download the sample code it will build on the pi
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[18:04] <zzzoid> swart, building OpenGL is not the problem
[18:04] <swart> what is?
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[18:05] <swart> I was just doing that last night
[18:05] <swart> plug in the pi to the hdmi, ssh in from another machine and run the code
[18:05] <zzzoid> swart, [18:00] <zzzoid> how can I run a OpenGL app using ssh and get it to display on the hdmi?
[18:05] <swart> don't start X windows
[18:05] <zzzoid> swart, X is not running
[18:05] <swart> yes
[18:06] <swart> 17:06 < swart> I was just doing that last night
[18:06] <zzzoid> swart, I want to run an OpenGL app on the pi by remotely starting it via an ssh session
[18:06] <swart> yes
[18:06] <swart> I would show you but I don't have a webcam pointed at my monitor :)
[18:07] <zzzoid> can't you just tell me. exporting DISPLAY made no difference
[18:07] <swart> so what is the question
[18:07] <swart> DISPLAY is not used
[18:07] <zzzoid> eh?
[18:07] <swart> DISPLAY is only for X11
[18:07] <zzzoid> that's what I thought
[18:07] <RiXtEr> Abbot and Costello much ?
[18:07] <swart> you run it, the code fires up the app, which takes control of the hdmi
[18:07] <zzzoid> ok
[18:08] <zzzoid> I'm trying to start quake3 from an ssh session
[18:08] <zzzoid> I get GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem
[18:08] <swart> well it might be built to use x11
[18:08] * RiXtEr thinks it is...
[18:08] <swart> maybe it's a config option
[18:09] <swart> honestly quake, who cares? :)
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[18:09] <zzzoid> I care, it's a test
[18:09] <RiXtEr> startx /path/to/quake3
[18:09] <zzzoid> ah, quake3 requires X?
[18:09] <kaste> don't think it has framebuffer support although it'd be cool
[18:10] <RiXtEr> that is just a guess..
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[18:25] <alex88> ShiftPlusOne: raspbian imaged worked fine at 1st try ;)
[18:25] <alex88> happy to not have to replace it again
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[18:44] <Willdude123> Are there any coding events in the South of England for kids?
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[18:55] <gordonDrogon> Willdude123, have you seen: http://www.codingclub.co.uk/ ?
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[19:19] <dexta> evening
[19:20] <ParkerR> Gaah you are everywhere
[19:20] <ParkerR> #xbmc #raspberrypi #debian
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[19:50] <Sothoth> is the pi able to supply a direct link usb monitor with enough power ?
[19:51] <Sothoth> its a lilliput 7"
[19:51] <ParkerR> Sothoth, That would be iffy. That would most likely need a powered hub
[19:51] <Sothoth> it reads 5V 3.8W
[19:51] <Sothoth> so i need a powered usb hub ?
[19:51] <ParkerR> Yes
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[19:52] <Sothoth> thats sad
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[19:56] <IT_Sean> That will definitely require a powered hub
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[19:57] <Sothoth> okay thanks ParkerR and IT_Sean
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[19:59] <gordonDrogon> 3.8W is more than the Pi itself takes...
[20:01] <Sothoth> okay
[20:02] <Sothoth> this beast of a device refuses to work anyway
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[20:35] <pascallieverse> hello
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[20:35] <pascallieverse> hello
[20:36] <brentwalther> hello
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[20:43] <excalibas> hello
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[20:46] <IT_Sean> o/
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[21:07] <gordonDrogon> olleh?
[21:09] <IT_Sean> ?sdrawkcab gnipyt uou era yhw
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[21:14] <gordonDrogon> IT_Sean, dunno. reversing the effect of all the hello's above?
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[21:15] <gordonDrogon> #makingitupasIgoallong
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[21:22] <chod> gordon the gpio commands proved by wiringpi? is there and extended commands for i2c or spi devices on the end
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[21:23] * chod wonders if that makes sence
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[21:24] <gordonDrogon> chod, Heh..
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[21:25] <gordonDrogon> well - I'm working on that at this very moment.
[21:25] <chod> so i could feel something in my water :D
[21:25] <gordonDrogon> so I've extended wiringPi with common I2C and SPI devices - e.g. mcp23017
[21:25] * chod nods
[21:25] <chod> excellent
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> then, what I'm thinking of is something like: gpio -x mcp23017:100:0x20 mode 100 out
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> gpio -x mcp23017:100:0x20 write 100 1
[21:26] <chod> right
[21:26] <gordonDrogon> that would add in an mcp23017 at I2C address 0x20, assign it to pin 100 (100-115), set pin 100 to output and write it 1.
[21:26] <chod> address of device then port?
[21:27] <chod> oh cool
[21:27] <gordonDrogon> I've not written that yet, so it's in a state of flux, but that's the general idea.
[21:27] <chod> to simplify
[21:27] <gordonDrogon> in a program it will look like:
[21:27] <chod> rather than refer to it by device on the bus
[21:27] <chod> then ports on the device
[21:28] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/q2w2.c
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[21:29] <gordonDrogon> my intention is that everything works via digitalWrite(), etc.
[21:30] <gordonDrogon> see also this: http://wiringpi.com/extensions/shift-register-74x595/
[21:30] <gordonDrogon> there's a program on that page too.
[21:30] <gordonDrogon> same idea - register a 595 shift register in the system then us digitalWrite() etc.
[21:31] <gordonDrogon> I think it's quite a powerful idea - there is a tiny performance impact, but it's not huge.
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[21:32] <chod> makes the final code for that actual taks a load easier
[21:32] <chod> task
[21:33] <chod> then a quick erm module for riscos then were away :D
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[21:34] <gordonDrogon> feel free to port it to riscos if you like :)
[21:34] <chod> so the setpup part is the same as the procedures in the python stuff i was messing with
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> if I had time, I'd look at riscos, but I don't.
[21:35] <chod> :D never enough time here
[21:35] <piney> time - we could all use more of that :)
[21:35] <gordonDrogon> not sure - don't think I've seen the python stuff you're messing with ...
[21:35] <chod> its not my code
[21:35] <chod> ill find the url
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[21:37] <chod> www.pridopia.co.uk/pi-pgm/23s17-cs0.py
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> I need to speak to Gadgetoid at some point about getting the new wiringPi included in his python wrappers.
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[21:38] <gordonDrogon> oh horrible.
[21:38] <chod> it seems a very long way around to access a couple ports
[21:38] <piney> gordonDrogon, that shift register page looks neat. guess i'll have to learn about them soon
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[21:39] <gordonDrogon> indeed - it's actually what I do 'under the hood' as it were, but the user just seens the nice digitalWrite(), digitalRead() ,etc.
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> piney, easy ways to expand GPO - output only :)
[21:39] <chod> need input also :D
[21:39] <piney> ahh, output only. didn't even think of that part
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> not with those shoft registers - there are some that do input thought.
[21:40] <gordonDrogon> the NES controllers used one.
[21:40] <gordonDrogon> https://projects.drogon.net/nes-controller-on-the-raspberry-pi/
[21:40] <gordonDrogon> however it's probably easier these days to just hook up an mcp23017 or 23s17
[21:41] <gordonDrogon> and wiringPi now has analogRead() and analogWrite () - with supporting hardware!
[21:41] <piney> 23s17 being spi?
[21:41] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[21:41] <gordonDrogon> it's what the PiFace uses, so I've already got code to drive it.
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> I'm trying to build up my new wiringpi.com site with al lthis new stuff on it.
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[21:42] <chod> would you know what the physical limit of wires on the spi connections could be ?
[21:42] <piney> gordonDrogon, sounds nice
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> it's dependant on clock speed.
[21:42] <chod> that would figure i guess
[21:43] <gordonDrogon> so a slow clock and you might get a metre away, but I think it would need to be really slow.
[21:43] <gordonDrogon> SPI is really intended for an on-board type interface.
[21:43] <chod> ok
[21:43] <chod> just had a rough idea
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[21:43] <chod> but it wont work
[21:44] <gordonDrogon> I've even seen issues with I2C too - I have a board with 2 x mcp23017's on it - they can do 1.7Mb/sec, but I was unable to get the I2C clock faster than 700KHz with them.
[21:44] <chod> as cheap to get more pi's i guess
[21:44] <chod> bus load in essence ?
[21:44] <gordonDrogon> if you have a distrobuted project then use lots of Pi's and use ethernet.
[21:44] <gordonDrogon> ethernet will go 100m.
[21:44] <chod> 150
[21:45] <piney> 100m is the standard
[21:45] <chod> i got some coax here
[21:45] <chod> and bnc hats
[21:45] <piney> 10base2 stuff?
[21:45] <piney> lol
[21:45] <chod> proper range
[21:45] <piney> go token ring!
[21:45] <mjr> you'll need a baset/base2 hub or something then
[21:46] <chod> yes i have a couple
[21:46] <gordonDrogon> yesss... oddly enough I looked out some last night too. I have an old 10Mb hub... with TP ports and a BNC port.
[21:46] <chod> and aui port
[21:46] <gordonDrogon> no AUI stuff here. threw it all out years ago.
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[21:48] <gordonDrogon> testing the mcp23017: http://wiringpi.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/mcp23017.jpg
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[21:50] <piney> they lcd keypad i want to use has a 23017 in it, so i'll be using wiring pi when the time comes
[21:51] <piney> i'm just slow at finishing projects, so that will be quite into the future
[21:51] <gordonDrogon> yes, I've seen those. they use the 23017 as a register to send data to the display too.
[21:51] <piney> yes
[21:51] <gordonDrogon> So you could use my lcd driver code to drive that via the mcp23017 expansion now.
[21:51] <piney> ahh, nice
[21:52] <gordonDrogon> it's actually quite neat, I think. You could drive a 595 shift register off another 595 shift register! Not the most efficient, but :)
[21:52] <piney> i still haven't played with wiring pi yet. been working with ds18b20's, thats about all.
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[21:53] <gordonDrogon> is that a 1W device?
[21:54] <piney> yes
[21:54] <piney> temperature sensor
[21:56] <gordonDrogon> not looked at 1w on the Pi yet. I was writing a bit-banged driver, then Frank Buss got his kernel one going, so sort of dropped it for a while.
[21:56] <piney> i can communicate to the 1wire stuff through the driver, so that part is quite easy. the driver could use improving though, but it works
[21:57] <piney> sometimes the CRC will be 'YES' but temperature readings will be 0.0 degrees
[21:57] <piney> i'm thinking about just communicating with it on my own if time allows, skipping the driver
[21:58] <piney> the ds18b20 has more features in it than I can access with the driver, it can store high / low temp readings, etc
[21:59] <gordonDrogon> I think someone has written a user-land 1w driver - the timings are tight - 6?S from what I recall.
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[22:00] <piney> i have an oscilloscope, have to learn how to use it, and make sure it still works. it was my dads. having something like that can help
[22:00] <piney> i'll see how it goes
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[22:04] <gordonDrogon> yea, experiment!
[22:04] <chod> no smoke yet but some hot chips :D
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[22:05] <ebswift> piney, i haven't seen bad readings with good crc
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[22:10] <piney> ebswift, interesting, this is the 2'nd time i wrote this code, first time in php, second in C. guess i'll have to look at it closer
[22:10] <chod> any one messed with reverse connections out to an app on a mobile phone?
[22:11] <piney> the other thing is i did buy my ds18b20's from ebay china, so they might be fake and the sensors doing this i guess is a possibility
[22:11] <chod> its easier if i just setup a decent firewall
[22:12] <ebswift> piney, mine are the cheapest i could get hold of from china... i had bad readings until i started looking at crc and that solved everything
[22:15] <piney> ebswift, if interested, this is what I'm doing in C: http://pastebin.com/QHV8XdzP
[22:16] <piney> still messy, only wrote it last week, and wanted to get the other end working before cleaning up. getting there
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[22:21] <ebswift> looks ok piney, i'll post my python code but it'll be an hour or so, i've gotta go run some errands
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[22:38] <piney> ebswift, thanks
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[22:42] <gordonDrogon> You could replace: if (line[36] == 0x59 && line[37] == 0x45 && line[38] == 0x53) //'YES' with if (strncmp (&line [36], "YES", 3) == 0)
[22:42] <gordonDrogon> or just use 'Y' rather than 0x59 ...
[22:42] <gordonDrogon> etc.
[22:43] <gordonDrogon> might make it a bit more readable?
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[22:45] <piney> yea, i got to update that bit shifting too, that doesn't account for negative numbers, etc
[22:45] <notlistening> Hi all I have a SD card that refuses to boot any ideas of what could be wrong, other SD cards with the same img on them boot fine, same brand. can be read of a laptop
[22:45] <piney> tbh i was happy when it worked. first C program i did in over 2 years
[22:46] <Encrypt> notlistening, Did you copy well the system ?
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[22:46] <piney> notlistening, the lights on the raspberry pi when trying to power it up might help
[22:46] <piney> http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting
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[22:46] <piney> might help to diagnose *
[22:47] <notlistening> normally I get one flash to inidcate its reading the card but with this one nothing
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[22:50] <gordonDrogon> piney, yea, make it work - then make it neat :)
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[22:51] <notlistening> Not much help but more infomraiton was cool thanks piney
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[23:18] <gordonDrogon> Heh.. I've just put an mcp23s17 on a breadboard and hooked it up to a Pi and I really shouldn't be, but I'm somewhat surprised it's working and running the same program I ran on the I2C version of the chip. woo hoo, I guess :)
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[23:20] <plugwash> :)
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[23:24] <wroberts1> the spi chip must have same registers as the i2c version
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[23:31] <gordonDrogon> it's identical.
[23:31] <gordonDrogon> I was about to use a PiFace to do the tests on, but I had one in my box-o-bits, so just wired it up on a whim.
[23:34] <wroberts1> there is one chip that can do i/o down to 1.2v
[23:34] <gordonDrogon> http://wiringpi.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/mcp23s17.jpg
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[23:43] <bolivar> hi, I have an external HDD that's been formatted (MBR) but has no partitions. What command should I use to create partitions?
[23:43] <debenham> fdisk
[23:43] <gordonDrogon> cfdisk is marginally more friendly.
[23:44] <debenham> (old habits die hard ;) )
[23:44] <gordonDrogon> yea!
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[23:46] <plugwash> If you have a GUI running then gparted rocks for partitioning stuff
[23:47] <gordonDrogon> have to say; in nearly 20 years of running Linux I've never used gparted! (or any GUI partition editor). Old habits indeed ;)
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[23:48] * plugwash hasn't seen any console partitioning tool that is both user friendly and supports resizing :(
[23:49] <gordonDrogon> I prefer separating operations - one program to do one thing well and all that.
[23:52] <piney> if the OS has a desktop, i'll use gparted, otherwise i'll do it command line
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