#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-03-17

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[0:04] <netw1z> whats the best way to find if a package exists
[0:04] <netw1z> for apt-get install?
[0:04] <netw1z> trying to find if Py-Googlemaps is on apt-get for example
[0:04] <nid0> apt-cache search
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[0:05] <netw1z> thanks nid0!
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[0:10] <tonyhughes> ShiftPlusOne I posted that howto on the forums. Thx for your help.
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[0:52] <Tenchworks> er question, is there a way to find out how much memory is being allocated to the gpu?
[0:53] <Tenchworks> I have the feeling my gpu_mem config option is being ignored and want to verify before I try to figure out why
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[0:56] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, what speed will those 23017's run at ?
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[1:15] <aaa801> Tenchworks, run top
[1:15] <aaa801> see how much mem is assigned
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[1:18] <Code_Bleu> anyone running Gentoo on their pi?
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[1:22] <aaa801> only the insane :D
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[1:29] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, while running ./build The wiringPi I2C helper libraries will not be built.
[1:29] <aaa801> that anything to be concerned abotu /
[1:29] <aaa801> ?
[1:29] <chod> v2 is not available yet
[1:30] <aaa801> chod, ?
[1:30] <chod> if your using some of the 'new' code that uses the v2 code
[1:30] <chod> code base.
[1:31] <aaa801> i was just compiling from gordons repo
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[1:31] <aaa801> installing wiringPi
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[1:32] <aaa801> aha
[1:32] <aaa801> sudo apt-get install libi2c-dev
[1:32] <aaa801> gordon you forgot that line on your page!
[1:33] <Nik05> -sudo
[1:33] <aaa801> Nik05, ?
[1:33] <Nik05> dont put the sudo infront if it...
[1:33] <Nik05> maybe someone is already su
[1:33] <aaa801> its a package install
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[1:34] <aaa801> it would need su.
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[1:34] <Nik05> yes so?
[1:34] <Nik05> i dont even have sudo
[1:34] <aaa801> Why would i take off sudo when im not running as root
[1:35] <Nik05> you can use sudo, but down put that in some manual
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[1:35] <Nik05> just say do this as root:
[1:35] <aaa801> yes thats all we need, give the people who are new to linux root access
[1:36] <Nik05> and what is your sudo doing?
[1:36] <Nik05> give them root access -_-
[1:36] <aaa801> for one command
[1:36] <aaa801> you should never be running as root anyway
[1:36] <Tenchworks> so i stepped away but back now, back to the memory allocation question
[1:36] <aaa801> not loged into root atleast
[1:37] * chod ponders a kebab
[1:37] <TomWij> Code_Bleu: Yes.
[1:37] <aaa801> Tenchworks, cat /proc/meminfo
[1:37] <Tenchworks> I was looking at it in htop and seeing that 232MB is availabel for system use but the gpu setting I set is 16MB, so what happened to the 8MB?
[1:38] <aaa801> reserved for background stuff by the gpu/cpu bridge
[1:38] <aaa801> afaik
[1:38] <Tenchworks> oh ok
[1:38] <aaa801> someone may confirm =/
[1:38] <Tenchworks> that makes sence
[1:39] <aaa801> ReggieUK, may know
[1:39] <Code_Bleu> TomWij: have you overclocked yours? I have changed the settings listed on here http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Raspberry_Pi_Quick_Install_Guide but it doesnt work
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[1:40] <Code_Bleu> TomWij: how do you install new packages? distcc? binhost? or crossdev?
[1:40] <TomWij> arm_freq=900 core_freq=250 sdram_freq=450 over_voltage=2 in /boot/config.txt on separate lines, I went for a safe overclock because the next step in voltage is a bit too big and has a more severe impact on lifetime
[1:41] <TomWij> Code_Bleu: crossdev+distcc, as a result my i7 system compiles them
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[1:42] <Code_Bleu> TomWij: i did that, but it doesnt change anything for me.
[1:42] <TomWij> Yeah, then you need to debug it a bit to see why it doesn't do that.
[1:43] <TomWij> Try #gentoo-embedded (where you currently are), they know better about these tools (and I need to go now).
[1:43] <Code_Bleu> TomWij: do you know if it would be faster to run the armv6j emerge on the crossdev box with buildpkg option? Ive tried that, but i get weird IUSE errors
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[1:43] <Code_Bleu> TomWij: ok, thanks
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[1:44] <TomWij> Code_Bleu: It could be faster, but pure cross-compilation can indeed be tricky.
[1:45] <TomWij> I don't do it because the distcc aproach is fast enough, feels like I'm emerging on my own system.
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[1:45] <jojo> Tenchworks: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=77435#p77435
[1:46] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, getting not found on mcp23017.h
[1:46] <Code_Bleu> TomWij: im running distcc, but it still seems slow to me.
[1:47] <Code_Bleu> TomWij: and for the love of God i cant get the stupid distmoncc-text thing to work...although it does show it is working in the distcc log file i created....anyway
[1:48] <TomWij> Look into pump distcc, and try to increase the amount of distcc jobs by raising the limit on the server and the client; distccmon I believe needs to run on client and not on server.
[1:48] <TomWij> Code_Bleu: If you still have problems tomorrow, ping me, gtg now. Good luck...
[1:49] <Code_Bleu> TomWij: Thanks! will do
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[2:27] <eggy> hm, who's messed with overclocking? ;) What's a recommended sd card for turbo?
[2:29] <Percy4th> Can't imagine it makes too much difference as long as it is a solid one. The Samsung seem to hold up pretty well.
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[2:53] <tonyhughes> Y U SO pointedly aggressive and capricious? http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/search.php?search_id=newposts
[2:53] <tonyhughes> I didn't want to reply to it....
[2:53] <tonyhughes> I really didn't
[2:53] <tonyhughes> Yet... I did.
[2:54] <tonyhughes> Can anybody help me with expanding the partition size of a Qemu virtual machine? (Raspbian on Ubuntu)
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[2:57] <unfluf> Anyone have advice on an audio player for crossfading audio tracks from a script?
[2:59] <tonyhughes> unfluf I dont know if its available in Raspbian but check out http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/man1/mpc.1.html
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[3:01] <ParkerR> tonyhughes, unfluf Yes it's in Raspbian http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=mpc
[3:03] <unfluf> Sweet ill check it out. Thanks yall.
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[3:52] <ivotkl> Hello everyone, I'm back again. My raspberrypi says that root filesystem has no more space left and it is being mounted on /tmp/tmpfs or something. Any ideas?
[3:52] <Triffid_Hunter> ivotkl: sounds like the tmpfs mounted on /tmp has run out of room
[3:53] <ivotkl> I don't think so, but I'm worried about root partition being full. =S
[3:53] <ParkerR> ivotkl, df -h
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[3:53] <ParkerR> * df -h /
[3:54] <ivotkl> Will take a while, rasp is in another room with no internet access at the moment.
[3:55] <ivotkl> Says that root is full (1.8 G). =S
[3:55] <ivotkl> Question is how...
[3:55] <ivotkl> How do I add more partitions?
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[3:57] <ivotkl> Is it safe to remove everything inside /tmp? I mean... It is a temporary files folder, isn't it?
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[4:08] <ivotkl> Any ideas?
[4:08] <ivotkl> Hello everyone, I'm back again. My raspberrypi says that root filesystem has no more space left and it is being mounted on /tmp/tmpfs or something. Any ideas?
[4:08] <ivotkl> df -h says that root is full (1.8 G). =S
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[4:17] <ParkerR> ivotkl, Oh you ddnt expand your rootfs to fill the card
[4:17] <ParkerR> *didnt
[4:17] <ParkerR> Assuming its bigger than 2gb
[4:17] <ParkerR> ivotkl, What OS on your main computer?
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[4:20] <ivotkl> I have a netbook, but I'm at my parents house using Windows on this box. My main computer would be the a netbook running debian squeeze with enabled backports.
[4:20] <ivotkl> It is of 8 GB. Can I extend root now?
[4:21] <ivotkl> I mean, card on Pi has 8GB capability.
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[4:22] <ParkerR> ivotkl, Yes I was thinking you could use gparted in linux to expand
[4:22] <ParkerR> It can be done only on the Pi though
[4:23] <ivotkl> That's too bad as I can't even startx now that my root is too small. Or are both problems unrelated?
[4:23] <ParkerR> ivotkl, You dont have to start x
[4:24] <ivotkl> I know, but I would like to do so afterwards. Is there a command line program installed OOB on Pi for formatting?
[4:24] <ParkerR> ivotkl, ONe second
[4:25] <ivotkl> Sure, thanks ParkerR
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[4:26] <ParkerR> ivotkl, Follow this to the TEE http://elinux.org/RPi_Resize_Flash_Partitions#Manually_resizing_the_SD_card_on_Raspberry_Pi
[4:27] <ParkerR> Dont question it
[4:27] <ParkerR> Just do it
[4:27] <ParkerR> It seems like you are losing everything but you arent
[4:28] <ivotkl> Ok, anyways... You're my only hope so. It is this and not losing anything or starting from scratch tomorrow at home... XD
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[4:35] <ivotkl> ParkerR: I only see 2 partitions. W95 extended and Linux. I'm guessing I should use start of Linux. Am I right?
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[4:43] <neurophyre> hey folks, the server for Raspbian Server Edition is slow so I made a torrent. Please seed: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:TSAKUVEIATUSWXLOHIKTA27IK2AUNUGH
[4:43] <neurophyre> (It's just Raspbian with the GUI and audio stuff removed.)
[4:44] <neurophyre> If magnets don't work for you, try http://www.seedpeer.me/details/5541692/1GB-Raspbian-Server-Edition-2-3.html
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[4:52] <ivotkl> I broke the system lol.
[4:52] <ivotkl> Forgot the size part of the system, hehe. Everything else was correct. Sorry ParkerR, I've failed you.
[4:53] <ParkerR> ivotkl, It defaults to the correct size
[4:53] <ParkerR> Most of the time
[4:53] <ParkerR> Just hit enter
[4:53] <ivotkl> Then I do not know what happened. Just won't boot after resizing.
[4:53] <ivotkl> Sorry, before resizing.
[4:53] <ivotkl> I'm gonna watch some TV now and continue in the morning after I wake up.
[4:54] <ivotkl> Thanks for the help. Will try it again if needed to see if it works.
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[5:13] <kieppie> hi guys
[5:13] <kieppie> what distro do you prefer for an everyday responsive desktop. can be either rpm or deb OS
[5:14] <kieppie> straight-up rasbian, or something else?
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[5:18] <Hodapp> how responsive do you want it >_>
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[5:19] <Hodapp> neurophyre: I'll seed on my VPS for a bit
[5:20] <kieppie> pretty quick. for the most part I'mm be doing terminal, SSH-X & web browsing (chromium probably?), but not much heavier than that. I've considered Arch, but I find it painful at times (a little too unforgiving)
[5:20] <A124> neurophyre: Yay!
[5:21] <A124> Hodapp: Pfft. I would go another route. But, minimal Fedora and install only packages you need afterwards makes nice speed and usability in one
[5:21] <kieppie> Hodapp - 'd liek to start using it for my everyday desktop. the rest of my services are all running on my servers
[5:22] <Twist-> kieppie: Have you actually tried this yet? The Pi's X11 2d performance is pretty unsatisfying.
[5:23] <neurophyre> Hodapp: thanks!
[5:23] <kieppie> Twist- I've run with a few different distro's/releases now. that's why I'm seeking comment/recommendation for what works well for you guys.
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[5:24] <Hodapp> hmm. no peers yet, as far as my VPS can see
[5:24] <neurophyre> Hodapp: yep, I just turned off 'encryption required' for the time being
[5:24] <neurophyre> Hodapp: somebody got about 4MB and then disappeared.
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[5:25] <Twist-> What works well for me is spending more than $35 on a primary workstation. :D
[5:25] <Twist-> That's not super helpful, I realise.
[5:25] <Hodapp> Twist-: Hmm, I know you...
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[5:25] <A124> neurophyre: Where is the original link for the server image?
[5:26] <neurophyre> A124: http://sirlagz.net/2013/03/04/raspbian-server-edition-version-2-3-1gb-image/
[5:26] <Twist-> Hodapp: I have always been here.
[5:26] <Twist-> </Kosh>
[5:26] <Hodapp> Twist-: But you've only recently been in #hive13 I think
[5:27] <neurophyre> I *just* first started messing with the Pi tonight. :D
[5:27] <Twist-> Yes. I've only recently been in Cincinnati. These things may be related.
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[5:27] <neurophyre> been sitting on my table for about 2 months. so far it's fairly poky at some things but should make a good tor relay and torrent box. :)
[5:27] <A124> neurophyre: Thanks 230kb.. that's slow indeed. Wish I had access to machine on the other side of city. Would be 100mbit
[5:28] <Hodapp> for the benefit of #raspberrypi: I have in fact met Twist- in real life. I can confirm that he is not a dog.
[5:28] <A124> lol
[5:28] <neurophyre> A124: thanks - the torrent itself has a directory with that image and a readme in it, if you're downloading it to seed
[5:28] <Twist-> Hodapp: My beard is apparently stopping traffic now though, so it won't be long before the transformation is complete.
[5:29] <neurophyre> the Raspbian Server Edition dude is running it off wordpress :(
[5:29] <Twist-> Hodapp: heh.. I was loading up groceries this evening when a taxi rolled past me, stopped, and backed up.
[5:29] <A124> neurophyre: Nah. Not yet. I somehow on update lost ssh connection to the machine
[5:29] <A124> And here I have 2mbit only up
[5:29] <Twist-> The driver handed me a card for http://www.beardbarons.com/
[5:30] <kieppie> anyone running fedora remix v raspian (hard-float spin)? how does it compare?
[5:30] <Hodapp> o_O
[5:30] <Hodapp> that's a new one
[5:30] <Twist-> It really is.
[5:30] <neurophyre> A124: cool. yeah I have 3M outbound. hoping to get a few seeds and make it quicker.
[5:30] <Twist-> http://www.beardbarons.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/bischoffandbarons.jpg
[5:30] <neurophyre> just cause, I plan to use most of my Pis with no GUI, so RSE is nice
[5:30] <Twist-> the dude on the extreme right
[5:30] <neurophyre> and can fit on a 1GB SD card.
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[5:31] <A124> Do not use a MicroSD card with an adapter -- it will not be recognized by the Raspberry Pi.
[5:31] <A124> Shiat
[5:31] <A124> I bought MicroSD
[5:32] <Twist-> A124: I use micro SD cards with an adapter
[5:32] <A124> LoL
[5:32] <Twist-> seems to work okay
[5:32] <Twist-> not even good cards
[5:32] <Twist-> I was at microcenter, and ther were selling 4gb cards for $4
[5:32] <A124> Archlinux? :D
[5:32] <Twist-> they, rather
[5:32] <A124> Nice
[5:32] <neurophyre> what
[5:32] <Twist-> so I bought a stack
[5:33] <neurophyre> A124: I set mine up with a 32GB card and an adapter, works fine so far
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[5:33] <[Saint]> "<A124> Do not use a MicroSD card with an adapter -- it will not be recognized by the Raspberry Pi."
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[5:34] <[Saint]> ...where did this piece of high quality bullshit come from?
[5:34] <neurophyre> heh
[5:34] <neurophyre> anyone know offhand if there's an armhf package of Transmission that's kept up to date?
[5:34] <A124> [Saint]: Fedora Remix wiki
[5:35] <[Saint]> Well, it is bullshit.
[5:35] <neurophyre> transmission-daemon specifically
[5:35] <[Saint]> There no way for the system to possibly tell the difference.
[5:35] <A124> neurophyre: If you supply me a Pi, I could supply connectivity xD ^^
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[5:36] <neurophyre> A124: lol.
[5:36] <[Saint]> A124: well, its a wiki - fix it, now you know it is wildly incorrect :)
[5:36] <[Saint]> and, it is...wildly, wildly incorrect.
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[5:37] <ShiftPlusOne> tonyhughes, got the qemu disk size sorted yet?
[5:37] <[Saint]> I suspect the warning would be much better when worded as "Some microsd cards and adapters are below par - this isn;t the raspi's fault"
[5:38] <A124> neurophyre: I have only one Pi now, and not much (out>2*in) money. And the one I have use at home. The net is on the other side of city, which is conneted to the other side of country. (redundancy)
[5:39] <Twist-> Did that accelerated X driver ever go anywhere? iirc there was one in the works
[5:39] <neurophyre> A124: my net connection is fine, I just was hoping somebody was maintaining an armhf repo for Transmission so I don't have to remember to compile it from source every month, if it even builds.
[5:40] <neurophyre> looks like not, though.
[5:40] <ShiftPlusOne> Twist-, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=28294 http://elinux.org/RPi_Xorg_rpi_Driver
[5:40] <Twist-> ShiftPlusOne: yeah, I was just looking at that
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[5:40] <ShiftPlusOne> Twist-, parts of it are already in Raspbian. If you compare X performance to how it was when it came out, there's quite a difference.
[5:40] <neurophyre> A124: then again, I found an ubuntu repo with armhf packages...
[5:41] <A124> neurophyre: Interesting
[5:41] <Twist-> ShiftPlusOne: I've got one of the original boards.. maybe my life just sucks because I've never overclocked it
[5:42] <A124> Twist-: Alpha or first batch?
[5:42] <ShiftPlusOne> Twist-, the actual board doesn't matter, I am talking about the software.
[5:42] <A124> I have v1 .. 256MB
[5:42] <A124> Pretty limiting
[5:42] <Twist-> yeah. I'm wondering if I'm blaming software for a hardware problem.
[5:42] <ShiftPlusOne> A124, got the FCC markings on it or is it really the first batch?
[5:42] <A124> ShiftPlusOne: FCC? :D
[5:42] <A124> Never seen them
[5:43] <ShiftPlusOne> Then you've got one from the first batch. =)
[5:43] <A124> So not sure
[5:43] <A124> I have it in nice case.. I would take a look but don't want to tear it apart :D
[5:43] <ShiftPlusOne> Twist-, to an extent you are. There is a limit to what hardware can do to accelerate X. The guy says that X is inherently CPU intensive, but I am sure you have already read all about that. Hopefuly something like wayland will work better.
[5:44] <A124> Twist-: How about.. BlackBox?
[5:44] <A124> OpenBox?
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[5:46] <Hodapp> Wayland does indeed run on the Pi
[5:46] <Twist-> A124: I'm fine without a solution, really. kieppie's the one wanting to use the Pi as a workstation.
[5:48] <Twist-> I deemed this unfeasible impractical within about 30 seconds of GUI use.
[5:48] <A124> Twist-: I want that too :P
[5:48] <Twist-> er
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[5:48] <kieppie> A124, Twist- glorified thin-client, really
[5:48] <Twist-> Pick one.
[5:48] <A124> kieppie: cli.. probloms? :D
[5:49] <kieppie> terminal, browser & *maybe* freerdp/vnc/ssh-X
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[5:49] <Twist-> kieppie: a web browser is where the Pi falls over.
[5:49] <kieppie> RAM?
[5:49] <A124> Btw: I made some measurements. Pi is about ten times slower than my 3.3GHz pc
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[5:49] <A124> (single thread)
[5:49] <kieppie> :/
[5:50] <A124> But some of the hardfloat does not work
[5:50] <A124> So it's not ten, but many moe
[5:50] <A124> *more
[5:50] <Twist-> kieppie: sure. also, javascript interpretation is surprisingly cpu intensive
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[5:51] <A124> If they make hardfloat work properly I guess the speed would be much better.
[5:51] <A124> Or if they manage to offload some float to graphics.. but that is close sources, so...
[5:51] <kieppie> well, the low latency seems to make up for much of the other shortcomings. I've seen a terminal & some RDP/HTML5-RDP in chrome browser, so if it ran *only* chome, similar to chomebook/OS, then that might be enough
[5:52] <Hodapp> A124: If you can find something that is simultaneously float-intensive and very data-parallel, that can be offloaded with GLSL, but there aren't always good fits
[5:52] <[Saint]> Chrome runs about as well as I expected it would.
[5:52] <[Saint]> ie. "not terribly"
[5:52] <A124> Btw: I can install rtorrent on router
[5:53] <A124> Just need an USB disk / flash
[5:53] <neurophyre> oh yay, somebody snagged the Raspbian Server Edition torrent, so there should be another seed
[5:53] <Hodapp> I am still seeing no peers
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[5:54] <neurophyre> weird. I dunno, my ratio went from 0.022 to 1.023
[5:54] <neurophyre> I'm on comcast so who the hell knows what they're doing
[5:54] <neurophyre> :/
[5:55] <Hodapp> hrmmm
[5:55] <A124> You know what.. I'll make Arduino an workstation
[5:55] <A124> *a ... if I figure how to make video out
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[5:56] <A124> Speaking of Pi I ran out of space and removing packages consumes space
[5:56] <A124> ...
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[5:58] <tonyhughes> neurophyre whats the torrent for Raspbian Server ill seed it
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[6:00] <A124> neurophyre: Magnet without trackers?
[6:00] <A124> wth
[6:01] <neurophyre> tonyhughes: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:TSAKUVEIATUSWXLOHIKTA27IK2AUNUGH
[6:01] <[Saint]> ...yes?
[6:01] <[Saint]> Welcome to the future! :)
[6:01] <neurophyre> tonyhughes: or http://www.seedpeer.me/details/5541692/1GB-Raspbian-Server-Edition-2-3.html
[6:01] <A124> Future to what?
[6:01] <A124> I'm unable to connect :P
[6:02] <debenham> A common spot to safely clear space is to remove package cache files from /var/apt/archives/*.deb
[6:02] <A124> debenham: apt-get clean
[6:02] <A124> But.. that's not good
[6:03] <A124> neurophyre: Why you just don't send magnet with trackers included?
[6:04] <neurophyre> well shit. (this is unrelated to the Raspbian Server torrent, BTW). installing from an Ubuntu Precise PPA to Raspbian for transmission doesn't work. heh
[6:04] <neurophyre> I dunno, I got that link off one of the sites. I don't generally make trackerless torrents much
[6:04] <neurophyre> hey, I'm uploading to somebody.
[6:05] <A124> It's tonyhughes :D
[6:05] <neurophyre> so, hopefully there'll be a number of seeds and whatever issue I've got sometimes connecting to people won't be a problem.
[6:06] <tonyhughes> 29 mins remaining downloading from 1 of 1.
[6:06] <[Saint]> If you have issues connecting to people, I suggest therapy. Not magnet links :P
[6:06] <tonyhughes> This is on my desktop, but ill do it on my Pi as well, seeing as its on 24/7
[6:06] <A124> Well it just don't works for me. Screw it, I'm on http
[6:06] <tonyhughes> A124 whats me?
[6:07] <[Saint]> "[18:04:39] <neurophyre> hey, I'm uploading to somebody.
[6:07] <[Saint]> [18:05:12] <A124> It's tonyhughes :D"
[6:07] <tonyhughes> "It's tonyhughes" - he did something? or "It's tonyhughes" - OMG AWESOME HE'S HERE!!!
[6:07] <tonyhughes> oh...
[6:07] <neurophyre> haha
[6:07] <tonyhughes> the first one then
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[6:08] <neurophyre> uploading to 2 people now.
[6:08] <neurophyre> thanks folks, will be nice to have a torrent of this
[6:08] <tonyhughes> I'm scared to look in the IRC abuse thread on RPF site.... did he bite back?
[6:08] <A124> neurophyre: You mean.. uploading to 2 nerd now?
[6:08] <tonyhughes> oops not abuse, I mean moan
[6:09] <ShiftPlusOne> tonyhughes, nope, just me weighing in.
[6:09] <tonyhughes> lol
[6:09] <tonyhughes> I saw the email, and thought I am such a polemicist, I just want someone to say I'm right (even if I'm not)
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[6:10] * ShiftPlusOne adds a new word to the vocabulary. >.>
[6:11] <tonyhughes> ShiftPlusOne nice reply
[6:11] <tonyhughes> me too haha
[6:11] <tonyhughes> Y U HAV SO MUCH pointedly aggressive capriciousness
[6:11] * ReggieUK dulls ShiftPlusOne's pointy bits
[6:11] <ShiftPlusOne> don't touch my pointy bits! >=/
[6:11] <ReggieUK> you'll have someones eye out
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[6:12] <ReggieUK> so much aggression
[6:12] <neurophyre> ughhhhh i so don't want to build Transmission from source on this lil guy
[6:13] <ShiftPlusOne> neurophyre, sounds like a good excuse to set up a cross-compiling envorionment on your pc.
[6:13] <tonyhughes> On Pi? Why build from source? There is a package
[6:14] <neurophyre> tonyhughes: it's perennially out of date
[6:14] <neurophyre> the transmission dudes seem to do a point release like every 3 days
[6:14] <tonyhughes> fair call
[6:14] <tonyhughes> Like calibre ebook manager
[6:14] <neurophyre> ShiftPlusOne: i heard that was difficult ... great article on the creation of Raspbian on Ars last week
[6:14] <tonyhughes> every time I use it, ive missed like ten upgrades
[6:14] <neurophyre> yep.
[6:14] <neurophyre> I hate having to remember to upgrade it, etc.
[6:15] <ShiftPlusOne> neurophyre, http://pastebin.com/4Jp1WPTb
[6:16] <neurophyre> tonyhughes: well, apparently I'm still building from source on my x86 network VM that I'm replacing with the Pi.
[6:16] <neurophyre> I thought I was using packages. blech.
[6:17] <neurophyre> ShiftPlusOne: nice
[6:17] <ShiftPlusOne> keep in mind it's not a script though, you need to actually go through the steps
[6:17] <tonyhughes> I have had three spare days to do bugfixes and tidyup on Baked Raspberry Pi Mod to make it more usable and reliable. And I have done zip. Not a thing. I just can't get off my behind and do it.
[6:17] <neurophyre> ShiftPlusOne: yep
[6:18] <tonyhughes> Tired after moving house last weekend, and old house flooded same weekend too. Thats gotta be a good enough excuse
[6:18] <tonyhughes> Hey ShiftPlusOne i put that howto up did you see it
[6:18] <tonyhughes> Can you sanity check it?
[6:18] <ShiftPlusOne> Yup, looks good.
[6:19] <ShiftPlusOne> actually, did you put in the bit about fsck?
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[6:19] <tonyhughes> nooooo
[6:19] <tonyhughes> doh
[6:19] <tonyhughes> Whats the command? Ill chuck it in the post
[6:19] <tonyhughes> fsck /dev/sda2 ?
[6:20] <ShiftPlusOne> yeah, but make sure to point out that that needs to be done within qemu
[6:20] <ShiftPlusOne> and then reboot
[6:21] <ShiftPlusOne> The problem is that since there's no RTC, when you mount the image, it updates the time it was last mounted. So when you boot it up in qemu, it sees that it was in the future and assumes there's a problem. There should be a way to fix that before you even start qemu, but I haven't looked into it.
[6:21] <tonyhughes> Done http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=37386&p=311360#p311360
[6:22] * neurophyre gives up and installs the wheezy transmission packages
[6:22] <ShiftPlusOne> still a bit wrong. that first time you don't have to log in. It will dump you directly into a root shell.
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[6:23] <tonyhughes> Done http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=37386&p=311360#p311360
[6:24] <ShiftPlusOne> yup
[6:24] <tonyhughes> Thats what you get for asking a n00b to write a howto lol
[6:24] <ShiftPlusOne> I think noobs write the best howtos actually. They don't assume you know everything before you start.
[6:25] <tonyhughes> And they write them knowing they themselves will be using it for future reference lol
[6:26] <ShiftPlusOne> tonyhughes, yup. I refer back to xecdesign.com articles pretty much every time I compile a qemu or a kernel.
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[6:26] <tonyhughes> Is that your site?
[6:26] <ShiftPlusOne> yup
[6:27] <ShiftPlusOne> A bit abandoned now, since I don't have time for it.
[6:27] <ShiftPlusOne> But I still try to keep the existing stuff up to date and reply to people if they are having trouble with something.
[6:28] <tonyhughes> Yeah, I know what that's like. I really want to get BRPI to a really usable state while im still in the zone for it
[6:29] <tonyhughes> The video of the 3yr old on the RPF site plugging the Pi in is disgustingly cute!
[6:29] <tonyhughes> I have a three year old but he is not interested in the Pi
[6:29] <tonyhughes> Mr6 is though
[6:29] <tonyhughes> Torrent Complete
[6:29] <tonyhughes> Seeding
[6:30] <tonyhughes> Laundry and dinner-cooking time byeeee
[6:30] <neurophyre> tonyhughes: thanks!
[6:30] <ShiftPlusOne> take care
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[6:34] <ShiftPlusOne> neurophyre, did you build that raspbian image from scratch or did you start with the existing image and remove stuff?
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[6:42] <neurophyre> ShiftPlusOne: I didn't build it, I just got annoyed at the guy's slow download link, so I made a torrent. But, he removed packages from an official Raspbian image
[6:42] <ShiftPlusOne> ah ok
[6:42] <neurophyre> ShiftPlusOne: it's not automated, AFAIK... needs an apt-get update ; apt-get upgrade on first boot
[6:42] <neurophyre> cause it's a little behind, I think
[6:43] <ShiftPlusOne> Would be nice to have a proper minimal raspbian image that's built from scratch and kept up to date.
[6:43] <neurophyre> very much so
[6:43] <neurophyre> this works for now, but I'd prefer an official one
[6:44] <neurophyre> between this and the PiFinder applescript I found, though, it was nice ... I've never plugged a display into it
[6:44] <neurophyre> just wrote the SD, plugged it in, scanned my LAN and bam. working out of the box.
[6:45] <neurophyre> 4 hours later it's a half-done network access/DMZ box and stable enough to put under my lava lamp and be ignored. I'm most impressed.
[6:45] <ShiftPlusOne> nice
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[7:03] <ShiftPlusOne> neurophyre, http://asbradbury.org/projects/spindle/ looks like what I was after
[7:03] <ShiftPlusOne> Was about to start writting something like that myself, but no point reinventing the wheel
[7:04] <neurophyre> wow, nice.
[7:04] <neurophyre> so much software on the shelf these days.
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[9:06] <gordonDrogon> morning
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[9:26] <tonyhughes> Morning gordonDrogon
[9:27] <tonyhughes> Well... 'evening' here
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[9:38] <gordonDrogon> :)
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[10:13] <dmonjo> hello guys
[10:13] <dmonjo> i am using raspberrypi
[10:14] <dmonjo> usrname raspberry
[10:14] <dmonjo> password pi
[10:14] <dmonjo> is not working for me
[10:14] <dmonjo> what can i do ?
[10:14] <dmonjo> debian wheezy
[10:14] <tonyhughes> username pi
[10:14] <[psy]> otherway around
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[10:14] <[psy]> user is pi
[10:14] <tonyhughes> password raspberry
[10:14] <dmonjo> not working too
[10:14] <[psy]> indeed
[10:14] <dmonjo> username pi
[10:14] <dmonjo> password raspberry
[10:15] <tonyhughes> Debian Wheezy on a Pi?
[10:15] <dmonjo> yea
[10:15] <dmonjo> login incorrect
[10:15] <[psy]> is it raspbian or normal debian?
[10:15] <dmonjo> rapsberrypi login:
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[10:16] <tonyhughes> rapsberry.... yo... check it out... in da house wit mi raps-berry... uh... yeah... // Must be the Eminem version of a Raspberry Pi.
[10:17] <tonyhughes> Are you using ssh or directly connected to the Pi with keyboard?
[10:17] <dmonjo> directly throught console
[10:17] <dmonjo> keyboard
[10:17] <tonyhughes> Do you have a different keyboard? Might be getting key repeats (that you wouldnt notice in a Linux password prompt)
[10:18] <bacteu> dmonjo: give us the download url where you found the image
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[10:18] <tonyhughes> Or if its on your network, try logging in via SSH
[10:18] <dmonjo> it shipped with an image
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[10:18] <dmonjo> how can i know its ip to login via network
[10:18] <ryanteck> Morning
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[10:18] <tonyhughes> Use putty if you have a windows PC to ssh in http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/latest/x86/putty.exe
[10:19] <dmonjo> yea but what is the ip
[10:19] <tonyhughes> Try using "Fing" to find the IP
[10:19] <ryanteck> you need to get that off the pi or the router / dhcp server
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[10:19] <tonyhughes> free in the Play store for Android phones
[10:19] <dmonjo> where can i download a new image for my raspberry pi
[10:19] <dmonjo> debian
[10:20] <dmonjo> i will install again from scratch
[10:20] <tonyhughes> Or Fing for Windows: http://www.overlooksoft.com/getfing4win
[10:20] <tonyhughes> Download Raspbian Wheezy here http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
[10:20] <dmonjo> tonyhughes: any instructions on how to install it ?
[10:20] <tonyhughes> But if its a keyboard issue, a new image probably wont help
[10:21] <bacteu> dmonjo: os?
[10:21] <dmonjo> i want to install the best OS for a raspberry
[10:21] <tonyhughes> I dont use Windows. But Fing support is here http://www.overlooksoft.com/support
[10:21] <dmonjo> mainly will act as a webcam client
[10:21] <dmonjo> i want to install on it my webcam
[10:21] <tonyhughes> Raspbian Wheezy from http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads is your best bet
[10:22] <tonyhughes> If your SD shipped preloaded it could be an older version.
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[10:22] <tonyhughes> How to install Raspbian Wheezy on your SD card: http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup
[10:23] <dmonjo> raspbian wheezy or soft flow ?
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[10:24] <dmonjo> what is the difference between raspbian and the other?
[10:24] <dmonjo> raspbian includes more drivers?
[10:25] <bacteu> raspbian is faster
[10:26] <tonyhughes> Raspbian is well supported, and blessed by The Foundation.
[10:26] <tonyhughes> And is fantastically easy to work with.
[10:26] <tonyhughes> And is a good operating system.
[10:27] <tonyhughes> The others all have their strengths too.
[10:27] <tonyhughes> But for what you want, Raspbian is a great choice.
[10:28] <ryanteck> Raspbian Wheezy is optimised for the CPU
[10:28] <ryanteck> the other isn't
[10:28] <ryanteck> but can run other applications such as java
[10:28] <bacteu> because armv6 was a silly choice
[10:29] <bacteu> if they'd gone with armv7 then we wouldn't need to recompile everything to get hf
[10:29] <[Saint]> ...and it'd cost way over the budget.
[10:29] <[Saint]> defeating the purpose of the ENTIRE THING :)
[10:30] <[Saint]> but, 'y'know...whatevs.
[10:30] <ryanteck> hence bacteu it wasn't silly
[10:30] <bacteu> [Saint]: armv7 is far from bleeding-edge
[10:30] <[Saint]> that's not the point.
[10:30] <ryanteck> There are multiple reasons they went with V6
[10:30] <[Saint]> it'd still not be within the goal of the project.
[10:30] <[Saint]> defeating the point.
[10:30] <tonyhughes> I'd pay more for my Raps-berry if it had higher specs, but like you say, not the goal of the project.
[10:30] <ryanteck> When they started designing it for the board it was the cheapest chip they could get for a $25 computer
[10:30] <tonyhughes> Love it for what it is, don't mourn what it isn't :-P
[10:30] <dmonjo> how can i know if my webcam is detected in raspberry ?
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[10:31] <tonyhughes> Plug it in....
[10:31] <[Saint]> I'd pay for a rapsberry if it were signed by Eminem.
[10:31] <bacteu> tonyhughes: it's not about specs, it's about using a cpu nobody supports anymore versus one that isn't
[10:31] <ryanteck> and the main people that worked on it actually designed big parts of the chip
[10:31] <dmonjo> i plugged it in
[10:31] <dmonjo> and now?
[10:31] <bacteu> for example, ubuntu supports armv7 but not armv6
[10:31] <[Saint]> bacteu: you're looking at this ALL WRONG. It's about cost. This is a dev board for educational purposes.
[10:31] <[Saint]> Nothing more.
[10:31] <bacteu> ryanteck: you mean eben? he worked on the gpu
[10:32] <tonyhughes> bacteu an Ubuntu supported cpu would have been simply wonderful all around
[10:32] <ryanteck> In the chip...
[10:32] <ryanteck> The GPU and the CPU are all in the same chip
[10:32] <bacteu> [Saint]: there are similar priced armv7 boxes from china
[10:32] <ryanteck> and another big factor was a chip that could support both HDMI and Composite
[10:32] <bacteu> ryanteck: the same SoC, but we're talking about the cpu
[10:33] <ryanteck> Yes but the CPU changes the GPU as its an SoC in this case
[10:33] <tonyhughes> need to leave chat to continue my productive coding session... bye
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[10:33] <ryanteck> Either way the Pi was never designed to be a fast lightning replacement
[10:33] <dmonjo> i plugged my webcam into PI
[10:33] <dmonjo> how can i know if it is working?
[10:33] <ryanteck> it was designed to be a very cheap replacement of a computer
[10:33] <ryanteck> and it runs faster than my netbook I have. And thats x86
[10:33] <bacteu> dmonjo: you'll probably hear a high pitched whine if your webcam is anything like mine
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[10:34] * [Saint] posits it wasn't designed to be a replacement anything.
[10:34] <bacteu> ryanteck: it shouldn't run faster than your x86 netbook, I'm assuming intel atom?
[10:34] <ryanteck> Via 1.2Ghz
[10:34] <dmonjo> any applications?
[10:34] <bacteu> ryanteck: intel atom is supposed to be 8x faster at similar clock speeds
[10:34] <ryanteck> I just said it was a via 1.2Ghz qq
[10:35] <ryanteck> Well depending I can load up chrome and play some basic HTML5 games on the Pi and my netbook can barely load up google....
[10:35] <bacteu> ryanteck: so if your pi was 1.2ghz, the atom would still blow it out of the water
[10:35] <ryanteck> Its not an atom...
[10:35] <bacteu> via make cpus now?
[10:35] <ryanteck> The netbooks from 2008
[10:36] <ryanteck> so they have been making them for a while I beleive....
[10:36] <ryanteck> But yeh, the pi can be slow at times compared to normal computers
[10:37] <bacteu> especially without an accelerated x driver
[10:37] * [Saint] thinks that matters very little
[10:37] <[Saint]> the sooner X dies, the better.
[10:37] <bacteu> [Saint]: he runs a web browser
[10:38] <ryanteck> Either way I still love my pi
[10:38] <ryanteck> I never really use any gui on it I mainly use terminal or cli applications
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[10:38] <[Saint]> terminal *or* cli? :)
[10:39] <ryanteck> same thing xD
[10:39] <bacteu> [Saint]: ncurses type isn't really cli but is terminal
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[10:40] <ryanteck> come on computer, install quicker
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[10:41] <ryanteck> virtualbox*
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[10:50] <bernard90> can I ask something about the power management of the GPIO pins? I am not so good with electrics
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[10:55] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: you must never allow the voltage to go higher than 3.3v or below 0v. you must never ask a gpio to source or sink more than a couple of mA
[10:55] <bernard90> okay
[10:56] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: you must always ensure you have discharged any static buildup before touching the gpio pins. you can't feel static shocks until about 10,000v but silicon will be destroyed with as little as 10v
[10:57] <gordonDrogon> didn't the Pi pass the 'cat' test?
[10:57] <bernard90> this is the situation: I have the Model B rev2 and I have a 4.3 inch mini monitor (this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/4-3-Inch-LCD-TFT-Monitor-for-Car-Backup-camera-/160600522299?pt=US_Rear_View_Monitors_Cams_Kits&hash=item2564897e3b) that I want to power from the RPi, it requiers 12V 2W. Now I was thinking to use the 5V pin of the gpio to use this on:
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[10:57] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: touch something grounded like a water pipe or computer case, then touch the shell of the usb ports on the pi
[10:57] <bernard90> http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC5V-DC9V-to-DC12V-DC-DC-Converter-Boost-Module-Step-up-Power-Converter-Modules-/251231658014?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a7e92e01e to power the monitor. Will that power be ok?
[10:57] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: no. the pi has enough dramas with its power already, don't make it harder on the poor thing
[10:58] <dmonjo> i want to connect my raspberry to a wpa-psk2 network
[10:58] <dmonjo> any tools?
[10:58] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: the boost converter will work fine, but you want to bypass the pi when supplying it with 5v. don't run the power through the pi
[10:58] <bernard90> ok, so I have to use that dc/dc converter with the battery pack?
[10:58] <mgottschlag> rather power the pi through the GPIO pin instead
[10:59] <bernard90> does anyone recommend me a good battery pack? are there any things I have to be cautious of?
[10:59] <mgottschlag> (if you already use the pin header for something, than you have one usb cable less in your setup)
[10:59] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: perhaps you should draw a diagram that encompasses your entire plan?
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[11:02] <bernard90> I'm searching for a battery pack to power the RPi from, and I want to power a 4.3 inch monitor from that aswell
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[11:03] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: I would get a 3S lipo pack from the R/C crew, hook the monitor to it directly and run the RPi from a buck converter. searching 'LM2596' on ebay will find plenty of suitable ones
[11:04] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: 3S is 12.6v fully charged, dropping to 9v when empty. the monitor will likely work fine on 9v, if it doesn't either boost to 12v or get a 4S pack and another buck converter
[11:04] <Viper-7> bernard90: you can power the LCD from the battery, but not via the pi`s GPIO header (the screen will easily draw enough current to burn out parts of your pi)
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[11:05] <bernard90> thank you all for the support, I never get this much attention than in any other channel, you're all so cooperative
[11:05] <bernard90> but I think I'd just get a separate 12v battery or so
[11:06] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: lead acid battery is 14.5v fully charged, and empty at 10.8
[11:06] <dmonjo> any good experience of using gstreamert with raspberry?
[11:07] <Viper-7> bernard90: its easy enough to find regulators like the one you posted, with a wider input range: http://dx.com/p/dc-3-35v-to-1-25-30v-converter-auto-step-up-step-down-solar-power-supply-module-for-arduino-147356
[11:07] <Triffid_Hunter> dmonjo: rpi is not fast enough for reliable software decoding. I've had specific files play fine with mplayer on the fbcon via SDL but others choke and I must use omxplayer
[11:08] <bernard90> Ok, now I need to find a battery pack
[11:08] <dmonjo> Triffid_Hunter: so cant use my pi to stream some video to a serveR?
[11:08] <bernard90> will those 18650 packs do fine?
[11:08] <dmonjo> it will be low res stuff
[11:09] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: if you get good cells they will be fine. there's a lot of really dreadfully bad 18650 cells out there
[11:10] <Triffid_Hunter> dmonjo: hm, the RPi has hardware encoding in the vpu, I would ask google how to leverage that. alternatively, use a camera that does the encoding for you and just forward the stream to your server
[11:10] <dmonjo> Triffid_Hunter: idea is read webcam on pi and send it to a stream
[11:10] <dmonjo> Triffid_Hunter: is there such cameras?
[11:10] <dmonjo> can you point me to some?
[11:10] <Triffid_Hunter> dmonjo: I'm sure there are, haven't looked myself
[11:11] <Triffid_Hunter> dmonjo: from time to time I've used cameras that supply mjpeg or even mpeg2
[11:11] <dmonjo> Triffid_Hunter: i need cameras that d o vp8 :0
[11:11] <bernard90> I was thinking about this http://dx.com/p/4-x-aa-batteries-holder-case-box-with-leads-142699 and power it from the GPIO, but it is 4 x 1.5V, and that is 6V, is that bad?
[11:12] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: yes. it must be 5v. you will need a converter regardless of what battery arrangement you use
[11:12] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: all batteries will reduce voltage as they discharge, and the pi is extremely picky about its power
[11:13] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: also note that most of the cheaper buck converters need about 2-3v extra to function correctly
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[11:13] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: so an LM2596 spitting out 5v will need at least 7-8v at its input to behave
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[11:18] <bernard90> Hmm maybe I'll get this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-6V-5V-3A-6-24V-2A-18650-Mobile-Battery-Box-Charger-FR-Tablet-PC-Laptop-Power-/150931637215?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item23243a03df
[11:20] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: hm how do you choose the output voltage?
[11:20] <bernard90> it is 5v fixed
[11:20] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: Output: USB port???3.6V, 5V - 3A (MAX); 6V, 9V, 12V ---- 2A (MAX).
[11:21] <bernard90> lolwut
[11:21] <bernard90> let me see
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[11:23] <dmonjo> how can i know if my webcam is compatible with my raspbrrrty?
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[11:24] <dmonjo> my webcam is a genius islim 300
[11:24] <dmonjo> can anyone help me?
[11:25] <Triffid_Hunter> dmonjo: plug it in, see if you get a /dev/video0 node and some messages in dmesg
[11:25] <dmonjo> yea i have /dev/video0
[11:25] <dmonjo> how can i test now Triffid_Hunter
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[11:26] <Triffid_Hunter> dmonjo: try mplayer tv://
[11:26] <dmonjo> no mplayer
[11:26] <dmonjo> any other tools?
[11:26] <dmonjo> i dont have internet now on the box
[11:26] <dmonjo> it is just shipped
[11:26] <Triffid_Hunter> no idea, I use mplayer for that
[11:26] <gordonDrogon> dmonjo, look up http://www.torchythebatteryboy.com/ for 18650 information.
[11:26] <Triffid_Hunter> gordonDrogon: that's for bernard90
[11:27] <gordonDrogon> er.. yea!: )
[11:27] <gordonDrogon> scanned the last page too quickly .. ho hum!
[11:27] <dmonjo> ok Triffid_Hunter i want to connect to a wpapsk2
[11:27] <dmonjo> my wirelss is detected
[11:27] <dmonjo> how can i conneect
[11:28] <Triffid_Hunter> dmonjo: dunno, haven't played with wireless on my pi, got plenty of ethernet
[11:28] <Triffid_Hunter> wifi is too unreliable for my liking
[11:28] <bernard90> gordonDrogon: Hehe yeah I never trust those cheap batteries
[11:29] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: friend of mine got a stack of "TruFire" 18650s from ebay.. measured capacity at 500mAh average, they have 3200mAh written on them
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[11:29] <Triffid_Hunter> I'm told that all the *Fire brands are basically the same crap-tastic cells
[11:29] <bernard90> Triffid_Hunter: how do you measure the capacity of a battery?
[11:30] <bacteu> bernard90: stick your tongue against it
[11:30] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: got a good charger, it tells me
[11:30] <dmonjo> Triffid_Hunter: btw my keyboard is not correcvtly mapped
[11:30] <dmonjo> i have some characters that are not typing correvting
[11:30] <dmonjo> for instance the |
[11:30] <dmonjo> or the @
[11:30] <bernard90> bacteu: that only works with 9v batteries. If you die afterwards, it is like 14v, if it hurts it is just about good, if you feel nothing then it is empty
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[11:31] <gordonDrogon> dmonjo, you're not in the UK, I presume?
[11:31] <dmonjo> yea
[11:32] <gordonDrogon> dmonjo, try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
[11:32] <ryanteck> or sudo raspi-config then keyboard
[11:34] <dmonjo> sudo raspi-config is hanging
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[11:36] <dmonjo> why does it hang?
[11:36] <gordonDrogon> no idea.
[11:36] <Triffid_Hunter> strace may tell you
[11:36] <gordonDrogon> you could connect in again and run ps ax to see what process is running.
[11:37] <bernard90> http://dx.com/p/ultrafire-18650-3-7v-3600mah-batteries-pair-50486 this is probably fake has hell
[11:37] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: yep ultrafire == trufire == utter crap, don't get even if free
[11:37] <dmonjo> maybe its the usb hub i plugged
[11:37] <dmonjo> putting 5 uyusb ports
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[11:42] <bernard90> Triffid_Hunter: could you please link me a good 5v dc dc module?
[11:42] <bernard90> preferably from dx or ebay?
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[11:53] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: step up or down? LM2596 is a good step-down
[11:53] <bernard90> yeah something like 12v to 5v
[11:54] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: the chip is rated for 3A but you'll never get more than 2A with the small PCBs that most of them have. that's still plenty though, the RPi only needs 1A at most
[11:54] <bernard90> but I also have a wifi module and a keyboard/mouse dongle connected to the RPi
[11:55] <Triffid_Hunter> bernard90: LM2596 modules are $1.50/ea last time I checked, you can afford to get 5 and drive a powered hub ;)
[11:55] <bernard90> ok thanks
[12:00] <dmonjo> Triffid_Hunter: were you able to stream webcam from raspberry pi?
[12:00] <Triffid_Hunter> dmonjo: haven't tried. don't have a webcam
[12:00] <dmonjo> anyone tried streaming webcam from a raspebrry?
[12:01] <[Saint]> ...sounds juicy.
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[12:11] <nbookham> :@dmonjo I know that Dave Akerman has mangaged to stream video over 3g using a webcam. His site is at daveakerman.com
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[12:13] <dmonjo> nbookham: no howtos!!!!
[12:14] <nbookham> I spoke to him recently, he told me what he used, but I have forgotten. I'll let you know if I remember.
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[12:18] <nbookham> I have a funny feeling that he used MJPEG streamer, which is available on sourceforge
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[12:19] <nbookham> Hold on. It wasn't dave. It was someone else who used a bigtrack with a webcam stuck on the front. It worked well though.
[12:21] <DDave> Stupid question of the day, can a single plugged in usb stick (mounted, but not using it) make a 5C degree difference?
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[12:24] <Tuxity> ohai
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[12:32] <nbookham> @DDave Yeah, I recon it would. It uses more amperage to power a flash drive, so it could make the usb controller warmer.
[12:32] <DDave> Tykling, not really worried, was just curious to see it "stuck" on 55.1C and now its "way" down
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[12:41] <Tuxity> a power supply of 4,61 V max is good enough right ?
[12:41] <DDave> amps?
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[12:42] <Tuxity> 1A display but not mesured yet
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[12:43] <nbookham> Gotta go! See ya!
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[12:43] <zproc> hello
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[12:46] <zproc> on one of my Pis, when i try to log in with SSH it's super slow to "answer", i get the prompt for the password after quite some time, even when nothing special runs on it (no specific daemon/server) and sometimes it even time outs or i get another error??? what could cause this? what could i do to resolve this problem?
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[12:50] <zproc> ok.. nevermind. iseems like that's the usb hub of the Lapdock's fault??? seems to be working better with the wifi dongle directly plugged in the Pi
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[12:59] <gordonDrogon> zproc, no DNS is why sshd is slow to respond. you can turn reverse lookups off in /etc/sshd_config
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[13:01] <zproc> no DNS? but my Pi gets its internet with DHCP.. so i'm not sure i understand
[13:01] <zproc> gordonDrogon:
[13:02] <angelos> it can't resolve the hostname of your pc when you're connecting
[13:02] <angelos> because there's no nameserver responding for that ip address
[13:04] <zproc> ah
[13:04] * gordonDrogon nods.
[13:04] <gordonDrogon> it tries for a good number of seconds before giving up.
[13:05] * chod looks in
[13:06] * gordonDrogon goes back to fixing a stair banister.
[13:06] <gordonDrogon> anyone got any sugru ...
[13:07] <chod> screwdrivers?
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[13:07] <zproc> ok. but like i said, after plugging the wifi dongle directly into the Pi instead of the Lapdock USB, it connects okay every time, so is there a link between the two?
[13:07] <lastebil> probably is.
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[13:08] <lastebil> depending on how the dhcp is set up, you might be sending your hostname to the dhcp server from the pi.
[13:08] <lastebil> if so, then it would know. If not, then it could be that the _last_ time it was using that same ip, it saved an entry.
[13:09] <zproc> oh, ok, i think i see
[13:09] <lastebil> basically, though, ssh "slow to respond" issues are almost always issues with resolving a hostname.
[13:09] <lastebil> if it can, zip, you're in! if it can't, it just waits for the timeout, and then you're in.
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[13:10] <zproc> okay, thanks :)
[13:10] <lastebil> I've had the issue when the dns server stops running. Drove me nuts for a while until I realized "oh, I'll bet... yes, my dns settings are ANCIENT" (:
[13:11] <Tuxity> I can't find where and why my pi crash :(
[13:11] <Tuxity> I can ask for a replacement from RS you think ?
[13:11] <lastebil> can't be harm in asking.
[13:12] <Tuxity> http://authenticate.rsdelivers.com/staticpages/pi/returns.aspx
[13:12] <Tuxity> oh okay :p
[13:12] <nbookham> Irssi 0.8.15 (20100403) - http://irssi.org/
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[13:13] <lastebil> wow, it really has been that long since the last irssi update.
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[13:16] <RoyK> any idea how I can use linux to pear with a mobile phone for audio/handsfree?
[13:16] <lastebil> I think the terms you probably would want to google for are "tether" and "peer"
[13:17] <lastebil> it's very dependent upon the phone / device.
[13:17] <lastebil> one of mine shows up as a "usb0" network device, though. I should see if that works on the pi...
[13:17] <lastebil> it PROBABLY does (:
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[13:25] * RoyK wants to use an old rotary phone and embed a pi in it so that I can call with the rotary phone through my cell phone
[13:25] <RoyK> so fucking retro cool :D
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[13:26] <chod> with pulse dialing
[13:26] <RoyK> should be simple to decode
[13:27] <RoyK> just need to make an FXO interface
[13:28] <RoyK> I hate buying an SD card that brags about 20MB/s and when tested, it maybe does 3MB/s
[13:28] <chod> like usb 2
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[13:34] <aaa801> Sigh. went to maplin to get parcel tape, came back with 2 protoboards, a heat gun, a jumper set, pack of random leds
[13:34] <RoyK> haha
[13:34] <chod> nice, any sensors
[13:35] <aaa801> nopes
[13:35] <aaa801> i needed half the stuff anyways
[13:35] <aaa801> dont fancy desoldering a 64pin cart slot by hand
[13:35] <aaa801> heatgun it to death :3
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[13:36] <gordonDrogon> oh dear, here we go again.
[13:37] <gordonDrogon> RoyK, family friendly channel and for that you earn a kick
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[13:37] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, Can i get a copy of wiringpi v2 please, the code you pointed me to uses it and its non released yet :(
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[13:37] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, I can give you a tarfile of it for testing pusposes..
[13:37] <aaa801> Ok :D
[13:37] <RoyK> gordonDrogon: sorry
[13:38] <aaa801> i should be getting the io expanders in a couple days
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[13:38] <chod> i do keep checking the git for updates
[13:38] <chod> (if it works like that)
[13:39] <aaa801> btw, i have some leds, can i power them from gpio without a resistor ?
[13:39] <chod> u need a resisitor
[13:39] <aaa801> D:
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[13:39] <aaa801> whys that ?
[13:39] <RoyK> because the LED will draw *lots* of current without it
[13:39] <chod> low internal resistance of leds
[13:40] <RoyK> and probably fry itself or the pi
[13:40] <aaa801> blarg :(,
[13:40] <aaa801> what resistor should i use?
[13:40] <RoyK> ~200 ohm should do
[13:41] <aaa801> oky, time to root around my place to see if i can find one
[13:41] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, technically you need to calculate the right resistor, but for most LEDs if you multiply the source voltage by 100 that'll be ok - so for 3.3v use 330??
[13:42] <chod> i think ardunios dont need a resisitor, but i would use something
[13:42] <gordonDrogon> chod, arduinos do need a reisistor too, but they're harder to blow up than a Pi.
[13:42] <chod> gordonDrogon will know better than i
[13:42] <aaa801> i think these are 5v resistors
[13:42] <aaa801> leds*
[13:42] <RoyK> chod: http://www.hebeiltd.com.cn/?p=zz.led.resistor.calculator
[13:42] <RoyK> ops
[13:42] <RoyK> that was for aaa801
[13:43] <chod> np
[13:43] <aaa801> just picked up one of those packs of 80 random leds
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[13:44] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, if you: cd /tmp ; wget http://unicorn.drogon.net/wiringPi-2.tgz ; tar xfz wiringPi-2.tgz ; cd wiringPi ; ./build
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[13:44] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, then you'll have a snapshot of v2.
[13:44] <aaa801> Ok, lemme boot up my pi
[13:46] <aaa801> building
[13:47] <aaa801> btw gordonDrogon on your blog you forgot to put how to install the i2c dev package
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, don't need it with v2
[13:50] <aaa801> aha
[13:50] <aaa801> mhm
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[13:50] <gordonDrogon> too much hassle for the Arch users, so I included my own version of what was needed.
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[13:50] <aaa801> getting undefined references to wiringPiSetup and mcp23017Setup
[13:50] <gordonDrogon> with your own project or when building wiringPi ?
[13:51] <aaa801> with my test file
[13:51] <gordonDrogon> add -lwiringPi to the command line.
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[13:51] <aaa801> aha
[13:51] <aaa801> that did it
[13:51] <aaa801> Thanks
[13:52] <gordonDrogon> it's a library, so you need to include it - just like any other library on *nix. the common one people also forget is the math library -lm
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[13:59] <aaa801> oky
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[14:29] <aaa801> ok first attempt at desoldering with heat gun = epic fail
[14:29] <aaa801> managed to melt the whole cart connector, from the other side of the board
[14:29] <aaa801> xD
[14:30] <aaa801> o well, only my gba cart writer that i havnt used in years
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[14:39] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, you can use the gpio program to test the mcp23017's when you get them too.
[14:39] <aaa801> Oky
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[14:40] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, soo far on my resistor hunt ive found a 1600 Ohm and a 2200Ohm
[14:40] <aaa801> too much for leds :(
[14:42] <aaa801> mhm wonder what the broken intercom has inside it
[14:42] <SpeedEvil> the LEDs will be quite visible with those
[14:44] <aaa801> and it wont destroy my gpio header?
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[14:44] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, wire them in parallel if you just want to test an LED. It'll light up, but be dim.
[14:44] <gordonDrogon> more resistance - safer. (most of the time)
[14:45] <aaa801> gordon do you mean inline with the led or connected to resistor then led ?
[14:46] <gordonDrogon> gpio -> resistor -> LED -> 0v
[14:46] <gordonDrogon> never over the LED always in-line with it.
[14:48] <aaa801> so like this http://elinux.org/images/thumb/3/3b/EGHS-LED_output1.jpg/100px-EGHS-LED_output1.jpg
[14:50] <Dagger2> gordonDrogon: you mean wire the two resistors in parallel, and then wire the resistor pair in series with the LED (as in the schematic above)
[14:50] <aaa801> o, so im using both resistors
[14:50] <aaa801> ?
[14:51] <Dagger2> yeah; if you wire the resistors in parallel with each other they'll act like a single 930 ohm resistor
[14:52] <aaa801> ok
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[15:01] <aaa801> ok got the dam resistors off the board
[15:05] <aaa801> :@ leg broke off
[15:05] <aaa801> no nono non oD:
[15:06] <aaa801> 2200Ohms one remaining
[15:06] <aaa801> can i use that for the led =/ gordonDrogon , Dagger2
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[15:08] <Dagger2> try it and see
[15:08] <aaa801> im more worried about breaking the gpio pin
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[15:09] <Dagger2> you're less likely to break it with a bigger resistor, assuming you wire it up correctly
[15:09] <aaa801> oky
[15:09] <aaa801> just tested it with my 3.3v from my usb ttl
[15:09] <Dagger2> and if you don't wire it up correctly then it doesn't matter what resistor you use
[15:09] <aaa801> lights up dimly
[15:09] <aaa801> so i guess its wired correctly :P?
[15:09] <Dagger2> yeah, that sounds right
[15:10] <aaa801> ok time to try it on the pi
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[15:11] <aaa801> mhm what gpio should i hook this thing to ?
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[15:12] <aaa801> ok hooked it to 23, time to see if i can get it to light up
[15:13] <aaa801> so thats pin 4 on wiring pi
[15:15] <aaa801> :o it works
[15:20] <aaa801> mhm setting the pin to pwm doesnt seem to work
[15:20] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, ?
[15:21] <aaa801> i did gpio set 4 pwm and it just stays as out
[15:21] <aaa801> gpio mode 4 pwm*
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[15:43] <gordonDrogon> that won't work.
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> only wiringPi pin 1 has PWM.
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> BCM_GPIO 18.
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> hardware pwm anyway.
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[15:58] <aaa801> o, i was looking at your code and it was just cycling pins 1-8 on pwm
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[16:00] <aaa801> doh i read it wrong
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[16:29] <transplant> hi. I'm looking for suggestions for a good image for trying rpi in qemu..
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[16:29] <transplant> the "wheezy" one suggested at the article that shows up in google has too many problems
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[16:29] <transplant> filesystem corruption happens all the time
[16:30] <gyeben> hi
[16:30] <gyeben> transplant: that's weird??
[16:30] <gyeben> weird
[16:31] <transplant> i fixed it once with `fsck /dev/sda`
[16:31] <transplant> then mounted it to add some files and next time i ran qemu, fs corruption was there again and this time fatal
[16:32] <transplant> maybe i did something wrong when mounting it, but i doubt it
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[17:26] <progician> hello guys. My first raspberry pi is still fresh and virgin
[17:26] <Draylor> easily fixed
[17:26] <progician> unfortunately, I'm getting a red pwr light, but the power in theory should be enough (I'm using UK kindle adaptor).
[17:27] <progician> the voltage is 5V, and 0.85A
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[17:27] <ParkerR> progician, Needs to be 1A+
[17:27] <ParkerR> 1.5A+ recommended
[17:28] <chod> has it an SD
[17:28] <progician> 1A+?, I thought it's 700mA
[17:28] <progician> yeah
[17:28] <ParkerR> progician, 700mA with no USB attached
[17:28] <ParkerR> USB devices raise that
[17:28] <progician> no USB attached
[17:33] <nid0> thats wrong
[17:33] <nid0> its 700mA with usb devices attached
[17:33] <nid0> nearer ~400 without
[17:33] <nid0> progician: your problem is likely a faulty SD card or one that isnt written properly
[17:33] <nid0> so make sure the image is written to it correctly first
[17:34] <gordonDrogon> progician, why is it unfortunate? you're supposed to be getting a red power light ...
[17:35] <ParkerR> nid0, Attach a wifi dongle
[17:35] <ParkerR> 700mA isnt enough
[17:35] <progician> hmm, in any case, on 850mA it doesn't work :(#
[17:36] <nid0> ParkerR: i've had a wifi dongle attached to both of my pi's for about a year
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[17:36] <nid0> fact remains, 700mA is the total input required. this is confirmed by the fact that the pi has a ~750mA polyfuse on the input line, it CANNOT draw more power than that
[17:36] <progician> nid0: i removed sd card, still in red
[17:36] <ParkerR> nid0, Model B rev 2
[17:37] <nid0> input polyfuse, not usb polyfuse
[17:37] <nid0> the former was not removed.
[17:37] <nid0> progician: obv with no sd card you'll only get a red light and nothing else, because there's nothing to boot
[17:38] <ParkerR> What are you talking about it cant draw more power than that? Then they wouldnt say to use a 1A or above
[17:38] <nid0> who's "they"? people like you who dont understand the device's power draw? The only reason more powerful power supplies tend to be suggested is because a lot of crap power supplies drop voltage near their maximum supply ability, so raise the total they can supply = they drop less voltage when only supplying 700ma
[17:40] <ParkerR> nid0, I have always heard 1A+
[17:40] <nid0> http://www.raspberrypi.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/quick-start-guide-v1.1.pdf
[17:40] <nid0> the foundation have always said 700ma+
[17:40] <chod> any one got a dream cheeky lcd display working yet?
[17:40] <progician> nid0: but is that ok that the pwr led is red?
[17:40] <chod> i tried the ruby example but is missing stuff
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[17:41] <nid0> progician: the power led is supposed to be red when you have power connected, because the led tells you it has power connected
[17:41] <RoyK> there should be an official PSU for the pi
[17:41] <RoyK> most usb PSUs suck rather badly
[17:41] <DDave> I bought mine while buying the rpi (RS)
[17:41] <DDave> So thats kinda "official"
[17:42] <nid0> I have like 15 random microusb supplies around the house and they all power my pi's fine
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[17:48] <RoyK> nid0: then you're the lucky one - I've tried several, and most of them give me 4,7V or so over TP1 and TP2 even without peripherals
[17:49] <johannesg> lovely, my Pi is now working as a irc proxy/bouncer! :D
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[17:53] <Nik05> johannesg ssh, screen, irssi? :P
[17:54] <Nik05> thats what my raspi does :D
[17:54] <ParkerR> Nik05, Probably ZNC
[17:54] <Nik05> pfff screen and irssi!
[17:55] <techkid6> That is all I do xD
[17:55] <techkid6> Just ssh screen and irssi :D
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[17:56] <ParkerR> Well with ZNC you can use any IRC client you want :P
[17:56] <chod> tmux and irssi
[17:56] <techkid6> true, i might do that soon, actually
[17:56] <techkid6> it would be nice to have a real mobile client that i can get on
[17:56] <techkid6> of course, irssi would be connected always, for logging
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[17:59] <neurophyre> Hey again.. just wanted to plug the torrent I made for Raspbian Server Edition (which fits on a 1GB SD card). I didn't create the distro, just made the torrent since the image download was slow.
[17:59] <neurophyre> magnet:?xt=urn:btih:9c80aa548804e92b5d6e3a15306be8568146d0c7&tr.1=udp://tracker.istole.it:80&kt=http://www.bt2magnet.com
[18:00] <johannesg> Nik05: I used to use ssh screen and irssi, then ssh tmux and irssi. and now tmux, irssi, and irssi-proxy (although I might switch to ZNC eventually)
[18:00] <neurophyre> it's Raspbian with GUI and sound and other similar packages removed. No other modifications. Working great on my little DMZ box Pi.
[18:00] <ParkerR> neurophyre, If I was going to go that minimal I would just use arch :P
[18:00] <johannesg> so yeah, i can connect to it with any client i want. and as many as I want. right now my iPod Touch is connected and Colloquy on my mac
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[18:01] <neurophyre> ParkerR: that's cool, but I like Debian.
[18:01] <ParkerR> YEa tis my favorite too
[18:01] <johannesg> or I could just ssh to my raspberry and attach the tmux session with irssi if I want :)
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[18:02] <ParkerR> johannesg, Harder to do from different devices
[18:02] <ParkerR> irssi controls arent always manageable on mobile devices and such
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[18:02] <johannesg> how so?
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[18:02] <neurophyre> maybe try mosh? http://mosh.mit.edu/
[18:02] <ParkerR> johannesg, a lot of soft keyboards dont have ESC
[18:02] <ParkerR> OR arrow keys
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[18:03] <johannesg> ah you mean if I SSH to my irssi on the pi?
[18:03] <ParkerR> Yeah
[18:03] <johannesg> that is why I am running irssi proxy, so i can use a regular iOS irc client on my iPod Touch
[18:03] <ParkerR> Ahh
[18:03] <ParkerR> Well ZNC does pretty much that but much more features
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[18:04] <johannesg> yeah, i tried ZNC, had some problems to get it to run properly for some reasons, then i thought, hey, i already know how to use irssi and got it setup very nicely, so why not just start with that and see if i need more features later on
[18:04] <johannesg> but I will most likely move to ZNC eventually
[18:05] <ParkerR> And ZNC 1.0 added multiple networks for one user so you dont have to have multiple ZNC accounts anymore :D
[18:05] <johannesg> i'm such an irc noob though, I didn't even know about irc proxies/bouncers 2 days ago. damn I got happy when I found out about it!
[18:05] <ParkerR> Heh
[18:05] <johannesg> (rarely use irc, although been starting to use it a lot lately)
[18:07] <techkid6> can I connect irssi to a ZNC proxy though?
[18:08] <techkid6> Like, if I set up ZNC on my Pi, then ALSO have irssi running on the pi, can I connect through ZNC?
[18:08] * kkit is a fan of quassel for using remote irc
[18:09] <kkit> techkid6, irssi can connect to a local znc
[18:09] <kkit> you just point it at localhost
[18:09] <techkid6> :D
[18:09] * neurophyre is a fan of irc on a single box and using mosh to connect to it from 20 different networks in a day
[18:09] <techkid6> and then I can always use the same username? or would I need for my iPod, techkid6_iPod, and for my pc just techkid6
[18:09] <techkid6> (both names I actually have grouped I think :P)
[18:10] <kkit> znc is just a bouncer, right? it should just appear the same externally no matter what
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[18:13] <dieck> hi there! I want to input 31 buttons into a pi. How to best achieve this? Is there a know, maybe ready-to-use multiplexer board for GPIO available? Or are there useable USB HID boards?
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[18:14] <pksato> dieck: a pc keyboard. :)
[18:14] <ReggieUK> farnell do a holtek usb keyboard IC
[18:14] <ReggieUK> or you could use a gpio expander
[18:15] <pksato> ps/2 keyboard on gpio.
[18:15] <ReggieUK> or you could do a keyboard matrix using 8x8 pins
[18:15] <ReggieUK> or they do ps2 chips on farnell too
[18:15] <ReggieUK> depends what you want the buttons for really
[18:15] <chod> 2 23x17 on spi or i2c bus
[18:16] <dieck> hm, so I'd just wrack an old keyboard? I thought they were somehow optimized in a special structure, so you can't simple acceess every button on it's own (I have an old musicbox I want to use the Pi with, so the buttons are already there)
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[18:16] <ReggieUK> yeah, they have a matrix in them
[18:17] <pksato> dieck: you need to detect multi key press at same time?
[18:17] <dieck> pksato: no
[18:18] <ReggieUK> I've looked into keyboard stuff a little bit, it's not necessarily as simple as just breaking a keyboard open and attaching stuff :)
[18:18] <dieck> pksato: I can do with two in a row -- the box has one line 1-10, one line 1-20, and a reset
[18:18] <ReggieUK> you might get lucky and be able to solder directly to the IC or better still, some kind of metal pads that connect to the matrix
[18:19] <ReggieUK> or you might get an IC blob package in there and graphite style connections to the matrix
[18:20] <ReggieUK> but if you don't need to do multiple keypresses at once and don't need the gpio for anything else, then I'd look at an 8x4 matrix
[18:20] <chod> v8
[18:20] <ReggieUK> that will use 12 pins and give you access to 32 buttons
[18:20] <dieck> ReggieUK: sounds ok
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[18:21] <ReggieUK> http://pcbheaven.com/wikipages/How_Key_Matrices_Works/
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[18:24] <ReggieUK> there is already part of a driver in the kernel that deals with this
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[18:24] <ReggieUK> it's called matrix_keypad.c
[18:24] <dieck> ReggieUK: so, as the Rpi has 16 GPIO, I won't need any special hardware, just correct wiring?
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[18:24] <ReggieUK> just correct wiring and some resistors probably
[18:25] <dieck> sounds doable for my level of soldering experiences :)
[18:26] <ReggieUK> it really shouldn't be much
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[18:26] <violet-rpi> does the bootloader support booting from external usb disk and using uuid ?
[18:26] <ReggieUK> if you had an arduino knocking around you could easily see it all work from numerous code examples
[18:27] <dieck> ReggieUK: thanks very much, I'll look into that and go buy some parts
[18:27] <violet-rpi> it boots fine if i turn of other disks , seems they get loaded faster then the one running rootfs , so boot fails if they are on as sda will be diff device
[18:27] <ReggieUK> but the good news is, that file is in the linux kernel, its in drivers/input/keyboard/
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[18:27] <dieck> ReggieUK: I think I'm beginning to remember some things from my VHDL/Verilog course at university :)
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[18:28] <ozymandias> i'm playing with openelec/xbmc and I wanted to copy some files into the /home partition after installing the OS, but before booting it on my RPi -- I see 2 partitions on the sdcard, but neither look like they have the os or /home partitions on it -- what am I missing? I dont see any file large enough to be booted as a loopback device... the cmdline.txt makes it look like it is booting partion 2, but thats empty....
[18:28] <ReggieUK> there should be some more information about how to use the keyboard_matrix.c file and gpio-keys in the Documentation folder of the kernel sources, I think it's in Documentation/gpio.txt
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[18:30] <ozymandias> nm
[18:30] <ozymandias> it's a squashfs file, smaller than expected
[18:31] <rbn> hi, i've got an old model b, and it turns off after running for some minutes. interestingly, the last time i've played with it (around a half year ago), that didn't happen.
[18:31] <rbn> can this be an issue with newer firmwares?
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[18:33] <rbn> ah, and in textmode it also happens, but takes longer
[18:34] <rbn> i've tried multiple images etc. but all are recent ones
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[18:50] <Gadget-Mac> Pi Motor control: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4OKjM7D-72w
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[18:53] <aaa801> gah
[18:53] <aaa801> spring cleaning q_q
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[19:00] * aaa801 gives broom to ReggieUK and orders to clean his room :3
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[19:03] <gordonDrogon> Gadget-Mac, 'gpio' FTW :)
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[19:04] <Gadget-Mac> gordonDrogon: Though you might like that
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[19:05] <ReggieUK> ....
[19:05] <ReggieUK> my room is clean
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[19:10] <aaa801> good boy, now clean mine!
[19:10] <Lamperi> I wish I only had one room to clean up
[19:10] <aaa801> i moved into this flat 6 months ago, this is the first time ive given it a true cleanup
[19:11] <aaa801> and god it needed it lol
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[19:12] <esseks> Hi! I'm currently running Raspbian (recommended download from rpi.org) and... I'd really love to switch to btrfs. Is that currently possible? The only reference I could find on the forums is unclear.
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[19:18] <aaa801> its possible, just not recommended
[19:18] <aaa801> also im not sure that the default kernel even has btrfs modules in it
[19:18] <aaa801> recommend doing it from another pc
[19:18] <aaa801> https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Conversion_from_Ext3
[19:18] <aaa801> also recompile the kernel with btrfs support if missing
[19:20] <aaa801> esseks, wake up !
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[19:20] <esseks> That's the point! Why would be not recommended? Btrfs has been tuned for non-rotating disks, while Ext is slipping in the oblivion legacy
[19:20] <esseks> aaa801: wake up?
[19:20] <aaa801> isnt btrfs still in development ?
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[19:21] <aaa801> sure give it a go, its just a non time tested fs atm :P
[19:21] <aaa801> its only the pi at the end of the day
[19:23] <aaa801> i think i remember fsck throwing fits at boot with btrfs tho
[19:24] <aaa801> had to change something in the mount file
[19:24] <aaa801> cant remember atm
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[19:28] <esseks> aaa801: I'm asking on #btrfs too... You mean /etc/fstab? I'm going to investigate that.
[19:29] <aaa801> ye i think you had to disable fsck on boot
[19:29] <aaa801> as theres no btrfs module for it yet
[19:29] <aaa801> or atleast there wasnt when i tryed it out a few months back
[19:29] <aaa801> i think you just swap one of the 1's for a 0
[19:29] <aaa801> in fstab
[19:30] <esseks> aaa801: Yes that's right. I'm running a spare pc on btrfs and boot fsck is working... Maybe it's some Debian-specific workaround.
[19:31] <aaa801> i think i may of not had the module installed tbh
[19:31] <aaa801> i didnt look too much into it
[19:31] <aaa801> best way is to just give it a go in all honesty
[19:31] <aaa801> at some point i have to get back to converting this to run on egl http://i.imgur.com/1F1O6tx.png
[19:31] <aaa801> ha
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[19:45] <geordie> when i ssh to a pi there is an issue: anytime i use the alt key (like alt-backspace) the input line becomes corrupted
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[19:49] <x-rayman> what OS are you using Geordie?
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[19:52] <ozymandias> anyone here happen to be running openelec on an rpi, and rotating the screen? I'm guessing no.... I set the rotate screen parameter in my config.txt, but after booting openelec blacks out the screen :-(
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[19:52] <ozymandias> i'm guessing it hates the resolution, but I have changed that in openelec
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[19:53] <x-rayman> Geordie this may help you http://askville.amazon.com/utilize-alt%2Bbackspace-Cygwin-SSH-remotely-connect-host/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=6881339
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[20:07] <geordie> x-rayman: thanks.
[20:08] <geordie> i'm using os x
[20:08] <geordie> sshing from an xterm
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[20:23] <Pumtrix> Hi, What would be the best possible solution to isntall a Huawei mobile data dongle to the raspberrypi.
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[20:23] <Pumtrix> version e392.
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[20:27] <gordonDrogon> take the end cap off. Plug it in.
[20:27] <Pumtrix> aha
[20:27] <Pumtrix> I've done that.
[20:27] <Pumtrix> I've looked at this too: http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=157&t=110283
[20:28] <Pumtrix> From when I was last here.
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[20:28] <Pumtrix> it comes up as a storage device.
[20:31] <d1gital> I have a tiny 480x234 display I'm trying to drive with my pi, and although I can get xbmc to use the full resolution, I can't get X to output anything other than 656x416. I've tried creating a modeline with cvt and adding it with xrandr, but setting the mode fails with "Configure crtc 0 failed". Is there a better X video driver to use than fbdev?
[20:33] <aaa801> you need to set mode it
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[20:34] <aaa801> huawai modems operate in storage mode until you send a opcode
[20:34] <aaa801> usb_modeswitch ?vendor 0?12d1 ?product 0?1001 ?type option-zerocd?'|sudo tee /etc/udev/rules.d/15-huawei-e1550.rules
[20:34] <aaa801> something like that
[20:35] <aaa801> http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/144
[20:36] <aaa801> Pumtrix,
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[20:55] <maxped> guys, is there something special to getting arch or soft float debian working. i burn the image to the sd card but get errors that end with panic: vfs: unable to mount root fs on unknown block.... i have regualr wheezy and raspbmc wokring so i have some grasp on how to get it done. neiter arch or soft float are accepting keyboard inputs btw.
[20:55] <Pumtrix> aaa801
[20:56] <Pumtrix> thanks fella. I'll look into it now, dominoes just got delivered. haha
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[21:13] <aaa801> oky
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[21:14] <techkid6> Sweet :)
[21:14] <techkid6> My bouncer actually works :D
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[21:19] <zproc> i used MPD with a CIFS network share as a music library: an external hdd plugged on my NAS/router/internet/etc box??? that used to work for a few days, and then lately it mostly skipped the tracks, like it wouldn't "wake up" the external hdd again, now i tried plugging the external HDD directly on the Pi, and ncmpc doesn't play anything, when i check MPC, i can see an "error: problems decoding ???.blahblah.mp3" ??? any idea for one ca
[21:19] <zproc> or the other?
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[21:23] <gordonDrogon> anyonw know the best way to display PNGs on the Pi's display - console only, no X ?
[21:23] <normod> ANSI-colors?
[21:23] <normod> for very small pngs
[21:24] <pksato> fb image display
[21:24] <pksato> view
[21:25] <pksato> fbi - Linux frame buffer image viewer
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[21:28] <gordonDrogon> thanks. will have a look at then!
[21:28] <pksato> or fim FIM: Fbi IMproVed
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[21:32] <esseks> While cleaning up my Raspbian Wheezy, I found three files whose presence I could not explain:
[21:32] <esseks> /etc/.fstab
[21:32] <esseks> /etc/X11/Xsession.d/75source-profile
[21:32] <esseks> /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/libpixman-1.so.0.29.1 (pixman.1 0.26 is regularly installed, this file is not owned by any package).
[21:32] <esseks> Anyone can explain what these three files are for?
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[21:33] <zleap> hmm
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[21:34] <esseks> Also, why aren't IPv6, i2c and spi loaded at boot? Performance?
[21:34] <esseks> I mean, why are they blacklisted?
[21:34] <Dagger2> IPv6 isn't loaded because nobody needs it and it uses a tiny bit of memory
[21:34] <esseks> Fair...
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[21:35] <Dagger2> really not
[21:35] <Dagger2> IPv6 is perfectly suited to the Pi
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[21:36] <Dagger2> though I didn't think it was actually blacklisted
[21:36] <gordonDrogon> esseks, some people want to use the I2C and SPI pins for other things at boot.
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> esseks, so it's not appropriate to load them.
[21:37] <esseks> Dagger2: /etc/modprobe.d/ipv6.conf says so :)
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> ipv6 isn't blacklisted irrc and it's an annoyance that it's not in the kernel to me.
[21:37] <esseks> gordonDrogon: ok, that's fair too...
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> my Pi's run ipv6...
[21:38] <gordonDrogon> ok, fbi - good, but gives me additional 'stuff' on the screen.
[21:39] <esseks> gordonDrogon: The file instructs not to load it by default. Maybe it's loaded after...
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> esseks, which module?
[21:39] <gordonDrogon> I just put ipv6 in /etc/modules
[21:40] <jojo> once you insmod ipv6, you cannot rmmod it
[21:40] <jojo> and loading it by accident could bypass iptables
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[21:41] <Dagger2> if you're the kind of person that has a firewall that blocks connections from the local LAN, then you're the kind of person that can deal with that
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[21:42] <esseks> About the files: deleting them **seems** to be safe. But: /etc/.fstab seems to be a backup (maybe a leave?), the X11 session script is plain wrong (there's a bug filed, essentially it overwrites PATH) and libpixma-1.so.... well... I don't know.
[21:42] <Dagger2> and if you aren't it makes no odds, because link-local addresses only work on the local LAN
[21:42] <Dagger2> (and if you have global v6 addresses on your network, then it's a problem you've already solved)
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[21:44] <jojo> i do not disagree; nevertheless i do not see a problem with requiring an explicit action to enable autoloading ipv6
[21:44] <Dagger2> I have an issue with v6 being treated differently to v4 though
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[21:44] <Dagger2> you could make the same argument about v4 ("if it's loaded, people could connect to me")
[21:46] <Dagger2> yet we enable v4 by default with no firewall
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[21:47] <Dagger2> ... and yes, there was a two-minute pause in the middle there as I thought about how my second position is kinda slightly different from my first
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[21:58] <_inc> evening all
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[21:59] <d1gital> I have a tiny 480x234 display I'm trying to drive with my pi, and although I can get xbmc to use the full resolution, I can't get X to output anything other than 656x416. I've tried creating a modeline with cvt and adding it with xrandr, but setting the mode fails with "Configure crtc 0 failed". Is there a better X video driver to use than fbdev?
[22:00] <KiltedPi> no idea d1gital
[22:00] <KiltedPi> I can tell you- this integrated circuit arrived in my post this morning!: http://www1.futureelectronics.com/doc/AUSTRIAMICROSYSTEMS/AS3935.pdf
[22:00] <KiltedPi> Its a link to the datasheet for a lightning detector integrated circuit!!!
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[22:00] <KiltedPi> I have the circuit next to me.
[22:00] * KiltedPi is giddy
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[22:01] <KiltedPi> Its amazing stuff. Can detect a lightning strike tens of kilometres away!
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[22:01] <_inc> KiltedPi: that link displays "Directory Listing Denied" for me
[22:01] <KiltedPi> Weird _inc!
[22:02] <KiltedPi> Its just a datasheet for this: https://tindie.com/shops/TAUTIC/as3935-lightning-sensor-board/
[22:03] <_inc> interesting
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[22:03] <_inc> I'm curious how that works
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[22:04] <KiltedPi> radio waves
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[22:04] <KiltedPi> It detects a very specific type of radio wave
[22:04] <KiltedPi> emitting during lightning strikes
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[22:05] <KiltedPi> I've just got it today
[22:05] <_inc> all on the IC?
[22:05] <KiltedPi> Yeah
[22:05] <f8l> ShiftPlusOne: 64 seems to be the minimum for gpu_mem (though I have tested only 16 and 32).
[22:05] <KiltedPi> Its got a wee antenna
[22:06] <KiltedPi> I've gotta read up on interfacing with it
[22:06] <KiltedPi> I2C seems to be the way to go
[22:07] <KiltedPi> SDA and SCL are the I2C pins apparently (Thanks Viper-7) for that
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[22:07] <KiltedPi> I'm going to tin a wee wire with some solder, and stick it in the port :S
[22:07] <KiltedPi> Its scrappy, but I don't care.
[22:07] <KiltedPi> As long as it works!
[22:08] <KiltedPi> As far as I am aware, I'll be the first to interface with the pi and this kind of circuit
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[22:08] <KiltedPi> It'd be great to hook it up to an SQL server, have it log lightning strikes over time
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[22:28] <aaa801> soo many errors
[22:29] <Pumtrix> When adding a mobile broadband connection to the network manager it allows me to get to the final page but unable to change any of the connection information or save it. Am I missing something?
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[22:29] <Pumtrix> I've installed the modeswitch function, changed it and it finds the mobile data dongle in devices.
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[22:29] <Pumtrix> But it's just not letting me save the connection.
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[22:32] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, any idea why this is giving me errors? http://pastebin.com/SKccsSdQ
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[22:37] <Genghis-John> howdy
[22:39] <aaa801> hea
[22:39] * chod nods
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[22:42] <KiltedPi> no idea pumtrix
[22:43] <Genghis-John> got pibang running today...looks very neat
[22:43] <KiltedPi> whats the error pumtrix?
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[22:44] <Pumtrix> Basically when im creating the mobile connection profile. it gets to the end page and all the options are greyed out.
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[22:44] <Pumtrix> and it doesn't allow me to save the profile.
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[22:45] <Pumtrix> also the save button is greyed out.
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[22:47] <KiltedPi> Dunno!
[22:48] <Pumtrix> thanks anyway
[22:48] <Pumtrix> i'll just google it to death
[22:48] <Pumtrix> ;-)
[22:48] <Pumtrix> im sure i'll find the problem
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[22:51] <aaa801> eww i hate C
[22:51] <aaa801> D:
[22:51] <Baikonur> C <3
[22:52] <aaa801> BLARG
[22:52] <aaa801> file wont compile without c99 mode
[22:52] <aaa801> program wont execute with c99
[22:53] <Baikonur> bad code
[22:53] <aaa801> hea its my first time with C
[22:53] <chod> a) sleep on it
[22:53] <aaa801> ofc its going to go badly
[22:53] <aaa801> :D
[22:53] <chod> b) find a beer
[22:54] <aaa801> Baikonur, http://i.imgur.com/Iq7wTLC.png
[22:54] <aaa801> whatdo
[22:54] <chod> c) google teh shit out of it
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[22:54] <chithead> -std=c99 or gnu99
[22:54] <aaa801> i do that and the file it poops out wont execute
[22:54] <Baikonur> aaa801: declare your variables before doing something else in the block
[22:55] <aaa801> http://i.imgur.com/XOIxV6h.png
[22:55] <Pumtrix> If i installed the network-manager-gnome gui package on wheezy would it be fine to use?
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[22:56] <aaa801> ok fixed the loops
[22:56] <Baikonur> aaa801: http://hastebin.com/badequrove.c you can't do this in pre c99
[22:56] <Baikonur> you have to declare bar before saying foo = 3
[22:57] <aaa801> mhm im guessing something is wrong with my main void
[22:57] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, you'll need to tell me what errors you're seeing.
[22:58] <aaa801> i got rid of the errors now gordonDrogon was due to me assuming C had byte and word datatypes
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[22:58] <gordonDrogon> for (byte i = 0; i < 8; i++)
[22:58] <gordonDrogon> yea, just noticed that.
[22:58] <gordonDrogon> stick to int.
[22:58] <aaa801> now the compiler is just generating a non usable program
[22:58] <aaa801> ye but where byte is actualy needed ( data stuff) i changed it to char
[22:58] <gordonDrogon> ifyou want that just #include <stdint.h> then you have uint8_t, uint16_t, etc.
[22:59] <aaa801> aha
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[22:59] <gordonDrogon> often on a 'big' processor it's just as efficient to use int.
[22:59] <aaa801> uint8_t is a byte right ?
[22:59] <gordonDrogon> and on some, using 8 and 16-bit ints can be slower.
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[22:59] <gordonDrogon> uint8_t is unsigned int 8 bits.
[22:59] <aaa801> ok
[22:59] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, http://pastebin.com/5NGvAHWy
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[22:59] <aaa801> why that produce non executable ?
[23:00] <gordonDrogon> don't know, but long is the same as int on the Pi. 32 bits.
[23:00] <gordonDrogon> do you get a compile error?
[23:00] <aaa801> nope
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[23:00] <gordonDrogon> what compile command?
[23:00] <aaa801> pi@raspberrypi ~/romdumper $ gcc -c dumper.c -lwiringPi -o dumper
[23:01] <gordonDrogon> ok. you don't have an executable because you didn't ask it to.
[23:01] <gordonDrogon> use this:
[23:01] <gordonDrogon> gcc -o dumper dumper.c -lwiringPi
[23:01] <gordonDrogon> no -c flag.
[23:01] <aaa801> o, not actualy sure why i was using -c
[23:01] <gordonDrogon> you use it to produce compiled, but not linked code.
[23:01] <aaa801> aha
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> e.g. when making a project out of lots of .c files.
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> you compile them, then link them at the end.
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> so that should now compile and you can run it with ./dumper
[23:02] <aaa801> yep
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> remember to gpio load i2c
[23:02] <aaa801> i havnt got the chips yet
[23:02] <gordonDrogon> ok :)
[23:02] <aaa801> just making the program
[23:02] <aaa801> :D
[23:02] <f8l> aaa801: I suggest you read about Make. ;-)
[23:02] <aaa801> make is evil
[23:02] <aaa801> esp old makefiles
[23:03] <aaa801> q_q
[23:03] <gordonDrogon> crin the Makefile from the gpio sources.
[23:03] <KiltedPi> very similar to what I'm doing at the moment
[23:03] <gordonDrogon> it's relatively sane.
[23:03] <gordonDrogon> s/crin/crib/
[23:03] <KiltedPi> Reading up about SDA/SCL, and which one is bus, which one data
[23:03] <aaa801> so is char the same as uint8_t ?
[23:03] <gordonDrogon> DA - DatA - CL CLock.
[23:03] <f8l> aaa801: No. Chars are signed by default IIRC.
[23:03] <KiltedPi> Heres some good links I found: http://www.robot-electronics.co.uk/htm/raspberry_pi_examples.htm
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[23:04] <gordonDrogon> char - not always - on some machines its signed and on some it's unsigned.
[23:04] <seba--> what are the symptoms of SD card failure?
[23:04] <KiltedPi> This adafruit one is brilliant
[23:04] <KiltedPi> http://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-4-gpio-setup/configuring-i2c
[23:04] <KiltedPi> for configuring i2c
[23:04] <KiltedPi> seba--
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[23:04] <KiltedPi> seba: PWR light, no ACT/OK light
[23:04] <KiltedPi> :)
[23:04] <gordonDrogon> the adafruit one makes it hard. just gpio load i2c and be done.
[23:04] <seba--> KiltedPi, yes i'm aware of total SD card failure
[23:04] <seba--> like but before it totally fails?
[23:05] <aaa801> watch out for io fails
[23:05] <f8l> seba--: Probably some I/O failures in dmesg.
[23:05] <KiltedPi> Ah, yeah. I'm writing code for my lightning strike detector from scratch, and getting right into the 'guts' of it
[23:05] <KiltedPi> Literally pouring over this datasheet
[23:05] <seba--> how long does it take to fail
[23:05] <seba--> usually?
[23:05] <KiltedPi> right! sleep
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[23:05] <aaa801> ymmv
[23:06] <f8l> seba--: Depends how intensively your system writes to the card, on the cards quality??? I don't know.
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[23:06] <seba--> hm
[23:07] <seba--> but like
[23:07] <seba--> is it common?
[23:07] <f8l> seba--: Why do you think your SD card is dying?
[23:07] <seba--> because r.pi is behaving strange
[23:08] <f8l> seba--: By strange you mean???
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[23:11] <seba--> f8l, well a few days ago, i couldn't ssh in r.pi
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[23:11] <seba--> so well i thought maybe something strange happened like that it ran out of space or something
[23:12] <seba--> because i don't have a monitor etc.
[23:12] <seba--> f8l then i put a new system on the SD, but i remove a lot of packages
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[23:12] <seba--> and like after 3 days it was again
[23:12] <seba--> i thought maybe the electricity went out and like restarted and i removed too much packages
[23:13] <seba--> f8l, but today i did the same and only like apt-get update/upgrade and resized the partition, restarted, it doesn't boot
[23:13] <seba--> lol
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[23:17] <f8l> seba--: Maybe you are right. I don't know how to check if the card is faulty. I'd try to dd something to it and then compare the card's contents with the original file.
[23:17] <f8l> seba--: Do you have another card you can replace it with?
[23:17] <seba--> no
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[23:18] <seba--> i'll try formating to fat32
[23:18] <seba--> and do scandisk
[23:18] <seba--> on windows
[23:18] <seba--> lol
[23:18] <seba--> with check for bad sectors
[23:18] <seba--> n'shit
[23:18] <seba--> lol
[23:18] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/steppers.jpg
[23:18] <gordonDrogon> hehe..
[23:19] <Firehopper> nice is that for a 3d printer?
[23:21] <f8l> Does someone here use XFS with RPi?
[23:22] <ShiftPlusOne> f8l, re gpu_mem, are you sure? I know the wiki is wrong sometimes, but I always thought 16 was indeed the minimum.
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[23:23] <f8l> ShiftPlusOne: Mine didn't boot with gpu_mem_512=16 nor with =32.
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[23:24] <f8l> ShiftPlusOne: Or maybe I didn't wait for long enough, but usually I can see Ethernet diodes after couple of seconds. They didn't come up within half a minute though.
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[23:24] <seba--> hm
[23:24] <seba--> maybe it was just a bad contact
[23:24] <seba--> lol
[23:24] <f8l> ShiftPlusOne: Only the SD diode blinked for ~300ms.
[23:25] <ShiftPlusOne> hm, no idea why. Clearly fr0g911's fault then. =/
[23:27] <f8l> ShiftPlusOne: I don't mind having 48M less RAM. It won't enable me run the xfs_repair on a 2,5T filesystem. ;-)
[23:27] <seba--> f8l, i think it was a bad contact, because i'm using a microsd adapter
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[23:27] <f8l> ShiftPlusOne: Today I experimented with swap over NBD.
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[23:27] <gordonDrogon> Firehopper, I'd need a 4th stepper for a 3d printer (to feed the plastic)
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[23:28] <f8l> seba--: How can you be so sure after so little time?
[23:28] <seba--> f8l, i'm not sure, where did you see i'm implying that
[23:28] <gordonDrogon> it's more a little experiment with some pololu stepper drivers.
[23:29] <f8l> seba--: You said ???was???. Maybe it's just a question of my poor English. ;-)
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[23:29] <Firehopper> gordon, actually 2 more
[23:29] <Firehopper> they usually use 2 for the z axis
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[23:30] <seba--> f8l, well i've had some troubles reading it in windows and after i've cleaned the contacts it was ok
[23:30] <seba--> f8l, but i'm not yet sure if this was the reason
[23:30] <f8l> seba--: I hope it was that.
[23:30] <gordonDrogon> Firehopper, my 3d printer will just use one - and do it properly :)
[23:30] <f8l> Time will tell.
[23:31] <Firehopper> cool :)
[23:31] <gordonDrogon> however that's a project for later this year.
[23:31] <Firehopper> my next project is to make a RPI lugable computer :)
[23:31] <gordonDrogon> I used to do this 25 years ago - we called them CNC milling machines though :)
[23:31] <Firehopper> possibly laptop ish
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[23:32] <gordonDrogon> there is that lap-dock thing...
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[23:34] <Firehopper> yeah, but I had a 17" laptop lcd lyin around
[23:34] <Firehopper> so I bought a lcd controller that does hdmi/dvi/vga
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[23:36] * chod looks at gpio commands
[23:36] <Firehopper> that lcd controller should arrive tomorrow
[23:36] <Firehopper> I'll get some thin plywood and make a case for the whole thing, including the keyboard and trackball.
[23:37] <chod> gordonDrogon: i guess the examples are not for the v2 beta
[23:37] <chod> or script examples
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