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IRC Log for 2013-03-19

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[0:00] <dansan> chithead: this will be cool because we're powering directly from 12v, so we can just do the 3.3v straight from the 12v and save a little more
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[0:09] <plugwash> The 3.3V is indeed supplied from a linear regulator which can be removed and an external 3.3V supplied to improve efficiency
[0:10] <plugwash> note though that this is only likely to make a significant difference on a model B. The A has far less load on the 3.3V rail afaict
[0:10] <dansan> plugwash: very nice, ty for the confirmation
[0:10] <dansan> yeah, I'm getting a model B
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[0:14] <QazzaQY2K> hey all, I was wondering if anyone played with berryboot:headless_installation ??
[0:14] <plugwash> I would also add if you don't need the features of the model B and you are running off batteries then get the model A
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[0:14] <plugwash> because it's far less power hungry
[0:14] <chod> berryboot, yes headless no
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[0:15] <dansan> plugwash: doesn't the model B have twice the memory?
[0:15] <dansan> ahh, it has a built-in hub, that's part of the power...
[0:15] <chod> QazzaQY2K: there are docs online
[0:15] <QazzaQY2K> @chod nice, well It's a bit dumb, once you get it working it's all peachy in the bootmenu, but when you start another OS partition, VNC connection dies. T_T
[0:16] <plugwash> the model B has twice the memory and a power hogging SMSC "usb hub with ethernet" chip
[0:16] <dansan> plugwash: that's helpful. We're not planning on using the ethernet and 2 USB wont be enough, so we'll need another hub anyway
[0:17] <plugwash> if I really needed 512M in a battery powered application and I didn't need the ethernet or second USB i'd seriously consider taking a model B and stripping the SMSC chip off
[0:17] <dansan> plugwash: actually, I should temper that -- I'm not convinced we need to use the extra USB at this point
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[0:17] <chod> QazzaQY2K: it would.
[0:17] <chod> QazzaQY2K: its booting a 'new os'
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[0:19] <chod> QazzaQY2K: i guess you setup a new vnc connection in the new os
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[0:19] <plugwash> (note: if you stip the SMSC chip off there are two links you need to fit on the bottom to bring the USB on the SoC directly to one of the USB ports)
[0:19] <dansan> that's not bad
[0:19] <QazzaQY2K> chod: I understand, but dosn't help me. I'm still headless. So I really wanted was the BerryWebserver headless.. But It don't seem to find any doc about that part.
[0:21] <dansan> plugwash: well, if we really do end up going the USB route on our hardware, I would like to find some nice cheap & efficient USB hub chip and put that directly on our board -- eventually that is. You know how it is at first, it's just a mess of breadboard, prototype boards & wires
[0:22] <dansan> can the GPU be powered down?
[0:22] <dansan> from software?
[0:23] <chod> QazzaQY2K: web server, does it not boot
[0:23] <chod> +?
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[0:23] <plugwash> dansan, I don't think so
[0:23] <dansan> ok
[0:23] <dansan> hopefully it at least has a low power mode though
[0:23] <plugwash> AIUI the chip on the Pi is far more of a GPU with an arm bolted on than vice-versa
[0:23] <dansan> I guess I'll have to read the datasheet
[0:23] <QazzaQY2K> chod: good question, don't have a clue what's going on. Or what's supposed to happen. I was hoping for a SSH setup or something.. hmm
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[0:24] <chod> is ssh setup on it?
[0:24] <chod> berrywebserver is different to berryboot
[0:24] <chod> i dont (think) one needs the other
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[0:26] <QazzaQY2K> chod: yeah, trying to find info about just that package.
[0:26] <chod> there a selection of web servers and install infos about, depends what you need
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[0:27] <chod> install on a base raspdebian
[0:27] <chod> which has ssh obviously
[0:27] <chod> all can be done remote
[0:27] <chod> but the raspberry pi is rather good with video.
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[0:30] <QazzaQY2K> chod: yeah, will have to go with something like that. Just liked the Berryboot idea. It still got a few bits to iron out I guess. Cheers for your input.
[0:30] <chod> any one got the yt working with omx?
[0:30] <chod> np
[0:30] <chod> i have got berryio working
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[0:31] <chod> base+webserver for gpio
[0:31] <chod> also own cloud
[0:31] <chod> base+owncloud
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[0:32] <dansan> oh cool, you can individually program each GPIO line to be pulled up or down! nice feature :)
[0:33] <chod> from a web gui
[0:33] <QazzaQY2K> chod: I'm sure it works fine, it's just once in headless mode, it should take headless images to continue the vncinstall. I could try make my own package image but I'd have to start with something a tad easier for now.
[0:33] <chod> also there is an android app with better gui for a similar function
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[0:33] <chod> i can find the name i u need
[0:34] <chod> QazzaQY2K: i have not tried vnc install, maybe i will take a look
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[0:36] <QazzaQY2K> chod: it's pretty easy. It would just need to install different OS images that continue to support the headless mode.
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[0:37] * chod nods
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[0:39] <QazzaQY2K> chod: open the file named cmdline.txt located on the SD card in a text editor, and append the following settings to the same line as the other options:
[0:39] <QazzaQY2K> vncinstall ipv4=192.168.88.88/255.255.255.0/192.168.88.1
[0:39] <QazzaQY2K> Then point a vnc viewer to your ip:port 5900
[0:40] <chod> nice
[0:40] <chod> and very useful
[0:41] <QazzaQY2K> chod: it's ok for that short part. I'm trying to find the author or at least a support chan.
[0:41] <chod> edit the inatll image your self?
[0:41] <chod> anyone good with c/?
[0:42] <QazzaQY2K> chod: yeah, I'm thinking about it ...
[0:42] <dansan> Hey guys, how does a company sell stuff w/o datasheets? I'm trying to find a datasheet for the GPU in the RPi, no luck :(
[0:42] <dansan> chod: yeah, I do C, what's up?
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[0:43] <dansan> unless the info is in the datasheet for the BCM2835 and I'm just not seeing it
[0:44] <plugwash> That's the world of GPUs for you, nearly everyone is highly secretive
[0:44] <dansan> stupid jerk wads
[0:44] <plugwash> the only exceptions afaict being intel and amd
[0:44] <dansan> oh yeah, amd went open with their info huh?
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[0:44] <plugwash> well some of it at least, I dunno how much
[0:44] <dansan> at least there are descent open source drivers
[0:44] <chod> dansan: messing with some of gordonDrogon code for SPI
[0:45] <dansan> chod: link?
[0:45] <chod> erm
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[0:45] <dansan> chod: I want something to click! =)
[0:45] <QazzaQY2K> dansan: you seen this http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/615
[0:46] <dansan> QazzaQY2K: lol! no :)
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[0:46] <chod> looking for teh code
[0:46] <dansan> QazzaQY2K: oh yeah, I have that datasheet, nothing about the interface to the GPU
[0:46] <dansan> from the ARM that is
[0:47] <dansan> I guess I'll just have to play with it once I actually have it in hand
[0:47] <dansan> wait, the drivers for the GPU are open source aren't they?
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[0:48] <chod> dansan: http://pastebin.com/bjTWbrt2
[0:48] <chod> if that worked
[0:48] <plugwash> The arm side code for talking to the raspberry pis GPU is opensource but it doesn't do much
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[0:48] <plugwash> The opengl es implementation actually runs on the GPU
[0:48] <dansan> plugwash: I can't blame them for that part though, it can give you more room for optimization
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[0:49] <dansan> Well, I'll look at the open source driver and (hopefully) there's some type of sleep mode
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[0:49] <dansan> chod: what's the problem?
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[0:50] <chod> it errors
[0:50] <dansan> when you compile it or run it?
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[0:50] <chod> compile
[0:51] <dansan> chod: loL! well paste the output pls :)
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[0:52] <chod> its on a pi with no gui
[0:52] <chod> getting there
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[0:53] <chod> make chodtest
[0:53] <chod> gcc -O2 -Wall -I. -Winline -pipe -fPIC chodtest.c -o chodtest
[0:53] <chod> /tmp/cc7jZhbw.o: In function `main':
[0:53] <chod> chodtest.c:(.text.startup+0x4): undefined reference to `wiringPiSetup'
[0:53] <chod> chodtest.c:(.text.startup+0x14): undefined reference to `mcp23s17Setup'
[0:53] <chod> chodtest.c:(.text.startup+0x9c): undefined reference to `delay'
[0:53] <chod> chodtest.c:(.text.startup+0xa4): undefined reference to `delay'
[0:53] <chod> chodtest.c:(.text.startup+0xd8): undefined reference to `pinMode'
[0:53] <chod> chodtest.c:(.text.startup+0xdc): undefined reference to `pullUpDnControl'
[0:53] <chod> chodtest.c:(.text.startup+0xe4): undefined reference to `digitalWrite'
[0:53] <chod> chodtest.c:(.text.startup+0xe8): undefined reference to `digitalRead'
[0:53] <chod> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[0:53] <chod> make: *** [chodtest] Error 1
[0:53] <chod> sorry guys
[0:53] <chod> is that formatting ?
[0:53] <chod> errors
[0:53] <DDave> chod, use pastebin.com
[0:54] <dansan> yeah, pastebin is preferred
[0:54] <TLoFP1> so I am working with about 8kB/s of data with the RPi and it is about maxed out. I expected it to be able to handle a larger data stream. Any thoughts on this?
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[0:54] <dansan> but you need to -l<your library>, that's why you have undefined references
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[0:54] <TLoFP1> I am simply streaming in 8kB/s data through GPIO then doing a simple calculation on the data, then dumping to SD card. this leaves CPU at about 95% utilization
[0:55] <chod> i did one bit forgot the 2nd
[0:55] <dansan> chod: try this: gcc -O2 -Wall -I. -Winline -pipe -fPIC -lmcp23s17 chodtest.c -o chodtest
[0:55] <dansan> I'm not sure that's the correct library name, but it's a guess
[0:56] <chod> i think i understand
[0:56] <chod> but i type 'make'
[0:56] <chod> are there defaults?
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[0:57] <Mixxit> hey :]
[0:57] <dansan> chod: to use make, there must be a file named "Makefile"\
[0:57] <chod> there is
[0:57] <dansan> oh, then just type make :)
[0:57] <chod> i did
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[0:57] <dansan> chod: oh, and that's the error you get?
[0:57] <chod> yup
[0:58] <dansan> hmm, can you zip it up and email it to me?
[0:58] <dansan> afk, brb
[0:58] <chod> its part of wiringPi
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[1:02] <dansan> chod: sorry, gotta take off. But the problem is that you're not linking against whatever library has all of those functions it called undefined. You need to add an arugment to tell gcc to link them in. This is -l<library_name> (and of course, replace "<library_name>" with the name of the library, minus the .so extension) and if it's in another directory, you will also have to -L<library path>
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[2:26] <MrKeuner> hello, can you suggest a fastest sdcard? would any class10 do?
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[2:29] <ParkerR> MrKeuner, Class 10 should work just fine
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[2:36] <[Saint]> Quick question:
[2:37] * Mixxit hopes you don't use a space bar in the next bit of text
[2:37] <[Saint]> How_would_one_reset_the_desktop_environment_in_raspbian?
[2:38] <Mixxit> :D
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[2:38] * [Saint] is totally unfamiliar with the DE.
[2:38] <[Saint]> Lets say I messed it up, and deleted panels/applets from said panels/etc. and wanted to restore it to the "out of the box" state.
[2:39] <[Saint]> ...how would I go about this?
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[2:39] <ParkerR> [Saint], You_could_try_deleting_some_configs_and_using_apt-get_install_--reinstall_windowmanager
[2:39] * dano5_away is now known as dano5
[2:40] <ParkerR> Or DE
[2:40] <[Saint]> Sorry, deleting "some configs" isn't terribly explicit.
[2:41] <[Saint]> Is "windowmanager" the name of said DE?
[2:41] <ParkerR> Yes
[2:41] <ParkerR> [Saint], Maybe in ~/.config
[2:41] <[Saint]> Thankyou.
[2:41] <Mixxit> make a newuser account?
[2:42] <[Saint]> I know _where_ it would be located, but I was unsure of what it would be called.
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[2:42] <[Saint]> Mixxit: that's not really much of a solution - I'll save that for the last resort ;)
[2:42] <Mixxit> blow it up
[2:42] <Mixxit> that always works!
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[2:43] <[Saint]> When I said return it to its default state - I din;t mean at an atomic level :)
[2:43] <Mixxit> /etc/skel might have some default settings
[2:44] <Mixxit> or create a new account and check that users files :]
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[2:47] <vjacob> hi again. any of you have experiences with adjusting the Raspberry Pi output image to not exceed the viewing area of one's TV?
[2:47] <vjacob> the first character is more oess hidden from view (left side)
[2:48] <Mixxit> blow it up
[2:48] <vjacob> ?
[2:48] <Mixxit> or shake it!
[2:48] <vjacob> might I ask which planet you are from?
[2:48] <Mixxit> my planet is long since destroyed
[2:51] <Mixxit> try /boot/config.txt
[2:52] <pksato> zz9 plural z alpha
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[2:53] <vjacob> *bows* I thank thee.
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[2:53] <vjacob> irc'ing on a tv screen is more fun than I suspected. especially with a new irc client and somewhat odd looking characters/typing.
[2:53] <vjacob> muhahaha!
[2:54] <Mixxit> my tv is long since destroyed
[2:54] <vjacob> does the default raspian image allow for multiple terminal consoles (alt-f2, etc...) ?
[2:54] <vjacob> doesn't seem to.
[2:55] <kkit> pksato, that's not a planet, that's the sector we're in.
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[2:55] <MrKeuner> ParkerR, all right thank you
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[2:55] <Mixxit> try ctrl-alt-f2
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[2:56] <vjacob> mixxit, that does not seem to do anything (here)
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[2:56] <Mixxit> shake it
[2:56] <vjacob> blow it up! (?)
[2:56] <ParkerR> MrKeuner, What did I do?
[2:56] <Mixxit> now you're talkin
[2:57] <MrKeuner> ParkerR, answered my uestion a while back
[2:57] <MrKeuner> thanks
[2:57] * vjacob closes eyes and imagines this planet also long gone soon
[2:57] <ParkerR> MrKeuner, Heh forgot wat I answered
[2:57] <ParkerR> *what
[2:57] <Mixxit> once i complete my annihalatrix
[2:58] <vjacob> animatrix?
[2:58] <vjacob> no wait, there's at least another n.
[2:58] <vjacob> I really should do something to the font.
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[2:58] <Mixxit> fonts are for macs
[2:59] <pksato> kkit: some planet on this sector was drestroied minutes ago... when I reading six book of h2g2 .
[2:59] * vjacob hmm
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[3:11] <jkbbwr> Hey anyone here?
[3:12] <Kubius> howdy
[3:12] <jkbbwr> I need to run a program after booting that reads stdin from a HID device
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[3:12] <jkbbwr> whats the best way to do this
[3:12] <jkbbwr> (I still need ssh and a whole bunch of other things)
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[3:13] <jkbbwr> Lol
[3:13] <jkbbwr> he quit
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[3:17] <tonyhughes> Hmmm so many sirens in the village today. Someones having a bad day.
[3:17] <jkbbwr> hey man
[3:18] <jkbbwr> you got any ideas?
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[3:18] <tonyhughes> Yeah, maybe a car accident, or a house fire.
[3:18] <jkbbwr> Swing and a miss
[3:18] <jkbbwr> lol
[3:18] <tonyhughes> lol
[3:18] <Mixxit> create a startup script
[3:18] <pksato> jkbbwr: /etc/rc.local
[3:18] <tonyhughes> You want at startup, or login?
[3:19] <jkbbwr> pksato: and I can jack into stdin from rc.local?
[3:19] <tonyhughes> So many confuse the two...
[3:19] <jkbbwr> tonyhughes: wherever I can get stdin from
[3:19] <jkbbwr> (after ssh init)
[3:19] <pksato> stdin?
[3:19] <jkbbwr> standard in
[3:19] <jkbbwr> blocking for keyboard input
[3:19] <Mixxit> sshd with sudo raspi-config
[3:19] <pksato> keyboard? seria console? vitual tty? pseudo tty?
[3:20] <jkbbwr> pksato: HID compliant pseudo keyboard
[3:20] <pksato> humm...
[3:20] <pksato> non interative?
[3:20] <tonyhughes> jkbbwr I am unable to help further re stdin sorry (lack of knowledge)
[3:21] <jkbbwr> pksato: im assuming interactive
[3:21] <jkbbwr> pksato: im gonna be passing swipe cards through it
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[3:21] <pksato> rc.local dont have a tty connect to some console/interative.
[3:22] <jkbbwr> mhm
[3:22] <pksato> except if read direct from input device.
[3:23] <jkbbwr> I "think" it writes to /dev/input/event0 but I don't wanna assume or write a parser for that
[3:24] <pksato> /etc/inittab can be used. but, need some work arround.
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[3:24] <jkbbwr> pksato: bleh
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[3:27] <jkbbwr> night for now
[3:27] <Mixxit> rawrrrkkkk too many connections rawkkk
[3:27] <Mixxit> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=56&t=13161
[3:27] <Mixxit> *shakes the browser window*
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[3:33] <illwill> whats the best way trigger 5v into a relay from a gpio pin
[3:33] <pksato> illwill: transistor.
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[3:34] <illwill> ive got a tip31a transistor, would that work
[3:36] <pksato> tip31a? wow. no, a simples 2n2222 are ok to drive 5v relay coil.
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[3:40] <illwill> ok i think i got one it has 4401 stamped on it
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[3:41] <illwill> 2n4401
[3:41] <illwill> close enough?
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[3:42] <pksato> is fine. but, need to know how to use it to drive relay coil.
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[3:45] <illwill> base is the trigger that goes to the gpio pin right?
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[3:47] <pksato> no, to limiter resistor.
[3:48] <pksato> http://homemadecircuitsandschematics.blogspot.com.br/2012/01/how-to-make-relay-driver-stage-in.html
[3:48] <des2> Use like a 2.2k or so
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[3:52] <illwill> all red and 1 gold band right?
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[4:09] <Mixxit> anyone know a site for really really low power displays
[4:10] <Evydder> Hey i need help with my raspberry pi Carnt get netgear WNA3100 wireless usb to work
[4:11] <Mixxit> is it using a powered hub
[4:11] <Evydder> nope
[4:11] <Mixxit> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=10397
[4:11] <Evydder> pluged in the to the pi
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[4:12] <Evydder> don't know
[4:12] <Mixxit> sounds like it needs ndiswrapper and isnt supported on arm
[4:12] <Mixxit> dont take my word for it though :]
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[4:16] <Evydder> checking this out http://omer.me/2012/04/setting-up-wireless-networks-under-debian-on-raspberry-pi/
[4:17] <Evydder> Bus 001 Device 005: ID 0846:9020 NetGear, Inc. WNA3100(v1) Wireless-N 300 [Broadcom BCM43231]
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[4:17] <Mixxit> BCM43231 is the chipset yep
[4:18] <Evydder> so what now?
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[4:18] <Mixxit> it's not possible on arm from what i can see as it needs to use ndiswrapper which only works on intel processors
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[4:18] <Mixxit> and the raspberry pi uses armv6
[4:19] <Mixxit> it might be worth picking up another wifi adapter or using ethernet if you have a B model
[4:19] <Mixxit> see here for good choices:
[4:19] <Mixxit> http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals
[4:19] <Evydder> in pluged in wire just want to make it wireless
[4:20] <Mixxit> that page has a list of supported wifi adapters
[4:20] <Evydder> that was just around the house
[4:20] <Mixxit> maybe you can trade it with a friend
[4:22] <Evydder> can i build it on arm?
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[4:28] <Evydder> could try build one of these http://arm.konnichi.com/search/index.php?a=32&q=ndiswrapper&core=1&extra=1&community=1?
[4:28] <Evydder> http://arm.konnichi.com/search/index.php?a=32&q=ndiswrapper&core=1&extra=1&community=1 *
[4:30] <pksato> Evydder: more easy to buy linux friend wifi dongle.:)
[4:30] <illwill> \0/ yay got it working
[4:30] <des2> Yay
[4:30] * Mixxit falls off his chair
[4:30] <illwill> thanks for link
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[4:38] <Evydder> how do i find out what kernel i am using?
[4:38] <pksato> uname -r
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[4:39] <fr0g911> morning
[4:44] <Mixxit> morning! :]
[4:47] <MrTrick> Anyone tried doing 'hibernate' for raspberry PIs (save ram to disk, remove power entirely)?
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[4:48] <Evydder> can pi read fat32
[4:48] <Evydder> ?
[4:49] <Xark> MrTrick: Nope. I would be surprised if it was supported on RPi.
[4:49] <Xark> Evydder: Yes, it should be a default fs in the kernel.
[4:49] <MrTrick> Xark: I'm wondering if it's possible to get a Pi down to 1-2 seconds total 'boot' time... eg read-only file system, memory snapshot saved to disk, every time power is applied it starts back from where it was... and if power is lost, the next time power is applied it starts again from the snapshot.
[4:50] <Xark> MrTrick: I have seen YouTube videos showing a OpenGL app starting in a few seconds (I think it was six). 2 seconds is going to be tough... :)
[4:50] <MrTrick> completely headless, if that helps...
[4:50] <Evydder> how can i connect 6 motors to my pi?
[4:51] <illwill> pksato, this what i was trying to accomplish with the 5v relay and transistor, opening a garage door. It worked perfectly http://youtu.be/-E045Vvj-f4 now i can go to sleep :)
[4:51] <MrTrick> Evydder: through a motor control circuit board or something else external.
[4:51] <Xark> Evydder: You will need some kind of motor control board. Since RPi isn't "great" at controlling motors directly, you may want the RPi to communicate with an Arduino (or equiv) to actually control the motors.
[4:52] <Evydder> can you remonded me one?
[4:52] <MrTrick> Evydder: I actually have this system: http://www.robotshop.com/drive-system-12-volt-1.html
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[4:52] <MrTrick> It talks i2c, so you can connect a RPi straight to it.
[4:52] <MrTrick> Xark: do you recall any of the links or resources for this fast-booting stuff?
[4:53] <Xark> MrTrick: You can start here -> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=21024
[4:53] <Xark> MrTrick: If you don't need a "normal" Linux setup after booting, just rename your app "/bin/init" and it will be the first thing run after the kernel boots. :)
[4:53] <MrTrick> Evydder: what sort of motors are they?
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[4:55] <MrTrick> Xark: ^_^ Interesting idea... I guess I'll have to do some research. It's a choice between something 'overkill' like the RPi, or an embedded platform like a PIC32 or M3 or similar.
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[4:55] <Xark> MrTrick: Right. If you need networking or HDMI then RPi may be best, otherwise "it depends". :)
[4:56] <MrTrick> I will need a broadcast 'bus' of some kind. If RPi, then ethernet is an easy choice.
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[4:56] <MrTrick> hmm, can one wire up a 'hub' topology without an actual hub?
[4:56] <Evydder> Don't know atm, planing to make a air drone for fun
[4:57] <Xark> MrTrick: If not using ethernet, you could use (e.g.) I2C in that configuration.
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[4:58] <Xark> MrTrick: If it is Ethernet, then the device you need is a switch or hub. :)
[4:58] <MrTrick> Evydder: the robotshop link I sent is very good for wheeled robots - it has its own closed-loop control system with included encoders and everything, to maintain the same velocity on level or sloped ground. Not so sure about what's best for drone type robots.
[4:58] <MrTrick> Evydder: you could use a PWM to control a single RC speed controller from the RPi, I think?
[4:59] <MrTrick> Xark: Yes I know, thank you. :-P My application isn't really able to use a powered network device.
[4:59] <MrTrick> For i2c, I wasn't exactly sure how multimaster would work in that situation.
[5:00] <MrTrick> But might be worth looking at, sure.
[5:00] <Xark> MrTrick: Multiimaster is a problem for I2C I think.
[5:00] <Evydder> i am a Programer so the coding wont be that hard
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[5:02] * Xark was pretty surprised at how *badly* the Raspberry Pi controls servos (presumable due to unreliable precise timing of Linux) -> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3491
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[5:12] <Mixxit> i have a microsdhc card and im not sure what class it is
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[5:14] <steve_rox> fun
[5:14] <Mixxit> any way to figire it out
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[5:15] <steve_rox> model research or erm speed tests?
[5:15] <steve_rox> not sure
[5:15] <Mixxit> oh okies
[5:15] <Mixxit> io test
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[5:18] <Mixxit> hmm i think its class 4 :[
[5:19] <Mixxit> only going at 4.73MB
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[5:36] <tonyhughes> I don't want to live in my country anymore if this is considered big news: http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/8445097/Store-accidentally-sells-Marmite-early
[5:36] <Mixxit> then it has happened
[5:37] <Mixxit> the end times have truly fallen upon us
[5:37] <Blueness|> what is this marmite lol
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[5:37] <tonyhughes> Its a thick black sharp tasting spread made out of yeast
[5:37] <Blueness|> hope its good on toast
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[5:38] <Mixxit> it's really an sleeper agent activation phrase that stuff.co.nz are using to activate cold war zombies all across america
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[5:38] <tonyhughes> Haha
[5:38] <Mixxit> fortunately our pi's will not be interupted during the apocolypse
[5:38] <tonyhughes> To be honest, I prefer Vegemite, but please don't tell Australia (or New Zealand) that I said that.
[5:39] <tonyhughes> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marmite http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vegemite
[5:39] <Mixxit> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Black-External-Charging-Battery-20000mAh-for-iPhone-4-3GS-3G-iPod-Touch-/400386657882?pt=UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item5d38e78e5a
[5:39] <Mixxit> this wil last a day wont it?
[5:40] <tonyhughes> Not sure if our North American bretheren have anything similar
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[5:40] <tonyhughes> twenty thousand mAh?
[5:40] <tonyhughes> holy kramoly
[5:43] <fr0g911> wow is that real
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[5:43] <fr0g911> does it charge it before you even plug the iphone into it
[5:43] <fr0g911> does it charge wifi lol
[5:44] <Mixxit> i'm not sure but i'd like to see it blend
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[5:52] <Mixxit> should work as a 24 hour ups yeah?
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[7:44] <Ben64> hey, when using omxplayer, if the video is as tall as the screen, it doesn't work, what do?
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[8:00] <dansan> Ben64: fix it and submit a patch? :)
[8:00] <dansan> sorry, I dunno
[8:01] <Ben64> if i knew how to fix it, i would lol
[8:01] <Ben64> 1080p videos work, unless they're exactly 1080 pixels tall
[8:01] <Ben64> then its just a solid color that is displayed
[8:01] <dansan> sounds like a bug in the player
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[8:02] <Ben64> indeed
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[8:02] <Ben64> i wouldn't even know where to begin to fix such an issue
[8:02] <dansan> it's tricky because you don't have a screen to debug with. you probably have to run a debugger from another console
[8:03] <Ben64> well i have many devices with ssh
[8:03] <Ben64> trying a rpi-update and a apt-get upgrade to see if that changes it at all
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[8:04] <dansan> always a good bet. plus, check their bug database to see if it's reported.
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[8:41] <dmonjo> anyone using webcam with raspberry pi?
[8:41] <dmonjo> streaming from webcam usb attached to RPi
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[8:43] <ParkerR> dmonjo, Many people
[8:43] <dmonjo> i need someone to share his experience with me
[8:43] <dmonjo> what tools used
[8:43] <ParkerR> Either motion or mjpeg-streamer
[8:43] <dmonjo> ParkerR: gstreamer?
[8:44] <ParkerR> dmonjo, I dont think the Pi is quite strong enough to stream live video from a webcam
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[8:44] <ParkerR> It's basically going to be stills at 10 - 20 fps
[8:45] <ParkerR> Maybe even a little less
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[8:50] <dmonjo> Parker i dont think so
[8:50] <dmonjo> i think if you get a webcam that does the encoding
[8:50] <dmonjo> and rpi to only process it will be fine
[8:50] <ParkerR> Yes
[8:51] <ParkerR> But you'll need somethung like a C920
[8:51] <ParkerR> Which is like $80
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[8:54] <dmonjo> ParkerR: i need it to stream vp8
[8:54] <dmonjo> not h264
[8:54] <dmonjo> any idea if there are such cams?
[8:55] <ParkerR> I do not think so
[8:55] <lastebil> what that can stream h264?
[8:55] <lastebil> or vp8?
[8:55] <ParkerR> lastebil, C920 has a built in h.264 decoder
[8:55] <lastebil> yes, and there are a load of cams that do h.264
[8:55] <ParkerR> So the transcoding is done on the webcam. Less the comuter has to do
[8:56] <lastebil> we have several in our data centers. Or. well. my ex-job's data centers (:
[8:56] <dmonjo> hmmm
[8:56] <dmonjo> so no vp8 ?
[8:56] <lastebil> but if it's vp8, I don't know of any.
[8:57] <lastebil> mjpeg, h264, sure. does vp8 feature streaming over rtsp? if not, you probably won't find much implementing that, due to the prevalence of rtsp
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[9:08] <dmonjo> but h264 will die soon
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[9:18] <linuxstb> dmonjo: In what context? I would expect it to still be used in digital TV for example for at least another 10-15 years.
[9:18] <dmonjo> vp8 is the future
[9:19] <ParkerR> "but h264 will die soon"
[9:19] <ParkerR> No
[9:19] <dmonjo> at least it will be not supported by google
[9:19] <jchvvs> morning
[9:19] <ParkerR> Unsupported by Google != Dieing
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[9:20] <ParkerR> There are still many other sources using h264 encoded videos
[9:21] <linuxstb> dmonjo: No, HEVC is the future, or perhaps VP9. VP8 is just a competitor to H264
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[12:39] <gordonDrogon> seems a quiet day here ...
[12:42] <DDave> Hold on, let me figure out a "stupid question of the day" :)
[12:42] <FR^2> oh, I can change that, I've accumulated some questions ;)
[12:43] <neilr> Why, when you buy a car tyre, is the first measurement in mm, the second as a %age and the third in inches?
[12:43] <FR^2> Depends on the variant of raspberry pi you have...
[12:43] <ShadowJK> i thought there were two mm measurements
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[12:44] <DonDraper> eg.. 225/50/16 225 is the width of the tyre. 50 is the hight of the tyre wall.. 16 is the side of the rim the tyre fits on
[12:44] <DDave> neilr, for real?
[12:44] <DonDraper> there are other measurements seperate for speed ratings and load
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[12:45] <neilr> Yup - the second number is the aspect ratio, it's a %age of the width
[12:46] <neilr> So 225/50 17 is 225mm wide, 50% of 225mm high, and 17inches rim size
[12:46] <neilr> And then there's the load ratings, as mentioned
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[12:47] <neilr> For example, 88H means the tyre can carry 560kgs at maximum speed.
[12:47] <neilr> Bonkers.
[12:49] <neilr> Why, in the 110m hurdles, are the height and the distances between the hurdles measured in imperial?
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[12:50] <Timmeh> and another question: how many Raspberry Pis fit in ina 225/50/16 tyre?
[12:50] <neilr> depends how finely you shred them
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[12:59] <chithead> also see http://www.raspberrypi.org/faqs "will it blend?" question
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[13:19] <gordonDrogon> what annoys me is seeing things being sold in metric sizes when they're really imperial... So 2.54mm stripboard anyone? (ie. 0.1")
[13:21] <gordonDrogon> but the only thing we can sell in imperial sizes these days appears to be beer by the pint...
[13:21] <FR^2> r.i.p. imperial units ;)
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[13:25] <Nik05> gordonDrogon: what annoys everyone else is the none metric units
[13:25] <Nik05> they are complete bullshit
[13:25] <Draylor> as is walking into a pub and ordering a 568 millilitre
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[13:34] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, any idea what the green light flashing means =/ ?
[13:34] <gordonDrogon> Nik05, I know... but keep it family friendly please...
[13:34] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, it means it's accessing the SD card.
[13:35] <aaa801> no on boot
[13:35] <aaa801> fails to boot
[13:35] <aaa801> red light on. green light flashing on/off 1s intervals
[13:35] <gordonDrogon> oh - there are codes - there are listed in the wiki somewhere.
[13:35] <aaa801> aha think not enouth power =/
[13:35] <aaa801> i had a n64 controller hooked up to gpio
[13:35] <gordonDrogon> check the elinux wiki pages.
[13:35] <aaa801> got it booting :3
[13:38] <gordonDrogon> what was wring?
[13:40] <aaa801> too much draw from 3v3
[13:40] <aaa801> with n64 controller hooked up
[13:40] <aaa801> prob because im just powering the pi from a usb2 port atm
[13:40] <aaa801> also gordonDrogon those i2c chips just arrived!
[13:40] <aaa801> :D
[13:43] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, how do i hook these up
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[13:46] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, with wires.
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[13:46] <aaa801> aye, but what pins ?
[13:46] <aaa801> http://cdn.chantrell.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/RPi_IO_Expander_external_power.png that right ?
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[13:50] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, ?
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[13:51] <aaa801> aha this is a nice diagram http://fritzing.org/projects/raspberry-pi-connectd-to-mcp23017-expander-chip/
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[13:51] <aaa801> how do i hook the 2nd chip in gordonDrogon ?
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[13:53] <SophieRxx> exit()
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[13:53] <Timmeh> aaa801: gordonDrogon may be doing other things on the side, please consider waiting a little until he has time to attend to your questions again.
[13:53] <mgottschlag> aaa801: or have a look into the data sheet
[13:53] <aaa801> :3
[13:54] <mgottschlag> it should tell you how to set the chip bus address, and then you should only need to attach wires to the i2c pins
[13:55] <mgottschlag> http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fww1.microchip.com%2Fdownloads%2Fen%2Fdevicedoc%2F21952b.pdf&ei=IWBIUamgAea84ASr8oC4DQ&usg=AFQjCNFv_QmJEhklHLRFIhZF-JEqBrjLtA&bvm=bv.43828540,d.bGE
[13:55] <mgottschlag> oops
[13:55] <mgottschlag> http://ww1.microchip.com/downloads/en/devicedoc/21952b.pdf
[13:56] <mgottschlag> compare the pin descriptions there with the diagrams you have found to find out what it does, and then look at what you need to change for a second chip
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[14:02] <aaa801> ok thats one hooked up
[14:04] <mgottschlag> A0, A1, A2 are what is most interesting for you - and maybe http://www.lammertbies.nl/picture/i2c_interface.png
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[14:07] <aaa801> NC/SO 14 10 O NC (MCP23017), Serial data out (MCP23S17)
[14:07] <aaa801> if i hook that to the input on the 2nd chip and daisy across the serial clock, will that work =/
[14:08] <mgottschlag> do you have an MCP23017, or 23S17?
[14:08] <aaa801> 23017
[14:08] <aaa801> doh
[14:09] <mgottschlag> then that pin is NC, so Not Connected - ignore it :)
[14:09] <mgottschlag> 23017 = I2C, 23S17 = different protocol
[14:09] <aaa801> ye thats spi
[14:09] <aaa801> ok so how do i go about connecting these 2 chips :(
[14:09] <mgottschlag> http://www.lammertbies.nl/picture/i2c_interface.png <- this is how SDA and SCL are chained for i2c devices
[14:10] <mgottschlag> (the theory behind that is that it is an "open collector bus", which basically is just a mean to connect multiple devices to one wire without creating short circuits)
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[14:11] <mgottschlag> then of course both chips are on the same bus (think of multiple devices on one network), so they need different addresses through the A0-2 pins
[14:11] <aaa801> im using wiringpi so i can offset the pin addresses easily
[14:11] <aaa801> ok lemme try this out :P
[14:12] <mgottschlag> the pi only has one i2c output, so you need to use those pins (there is only ONE I2C bus!)
[14:12] <mgottschlag> but you have to set the two chips in a way that they respond to different packets from the pi, even though they are on the same pins
[14:12] <aaa801> yes ik, so basicaly i just hooked them onto the same wire
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[14:13] <jkbbwr> Yea so im screwed lol
[14:13] <aaa801> mhm >
[14:13] <aaa801> ?
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[14:16] <adammw111> just installed git on my pi but getting HTTPS issues, does anyone remember how to install the root certificates or otherwise silence the error?
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[14:17] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, hi - sorry was working elsewhere. are you sored now?
[14:17] <aaa801> just about to hook up 2nd chip gordonDrogon
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> ok
[14:17] <gordonDrogon> you need you set the 3 address pins on both chips.
[14:18] <gordonDrogon> the first connect all 3 to 0v, the 2nd, connect 2 to 0v, and the 3rd to 3.3v.
[14:18] <aaa801> wha
[14:18] <aaa801> are those the 3 pins on top right ?
[14:18] <aaa801> 15 16 and 16 ?
[14:18] <gordonDrogon> in that fritzing diagram, yes.
[14:18] <aaa801> 17*
[14:18] <adammw111> dw, found a very hacky workaround.. GIT_SSL_NO_VERIFY=true
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[14:19] <gordonDrogon> pins 15,16 and 17 are the address select pins.
[14:19] <gordonDrogon> I'd connect one up first and make sure you can see it with i2cdetect
[14:19] <aaa801> ye its comes up as 0x20
[14:19] <gordonDrogon> good!
[14:19] <gordonDrogon> the bottom 3 bits are controlled via those 3 address pins.
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[14:20] <gordonDrogon> so 15 high, 16 & 17 low will give you 0x21.
[14:20] <gordonDrogon> etc.
[14:20] <aaa801> ok lemme change the bit on the 2nd chip
[14:20] <aaa801> what will give me 0x22 for the 3rd ?
[14:20] <mgottschlag> 0x20 + 0x2 = 0x20 + 010b, so the 2. bit is set
[14:21] <mgottschlag> both others are GND
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[14:21] <mgottschlag> (set = 3.3V)
[14:21] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[14:21] <aaa801> ok got the 2nd chip showing on 0x21 :D
[14:21] <gordonDrogon> it's just a binary code.
[14:21] <gordonDrogon> great, now you have 32 more gpio bits in wiringPi :)
[14:22] <aaa801> i just hope that cart will work with 3v3 instead of 4v
[14:22] <aaa801> 5v*
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[14:28] <aaa801> grr
[14:28] <aaa801> got 3rd on 23 instead of 22
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[14:31] <gordonDrogon> you can...
[14:31] <gordonDrogon> run the 23017's at 5v if you want to.
[14:31] <gordonDrogon> they should not blow the Pi up - as long as you just connect up the I2C lines and nothing else.
[14:31] <gordonDrogon> However I have not tried this.
[14:32] <aaa801> so i cant 5v the lines to ground ?
[14:33] <aaa801> or can i just swap the 3v3 cable for the 5v on the header ?
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[14:34] <aaa801> ok just tryed that
[14:34] <aaa801> now pi wont boot
[14:34] <aaa801> :(
[14:35] <aaa801> it lives!
[14:35] <eggy> That does not sound good
[14:36] <aaa801> i think i may of knocked the sd card while changing the pin
[14:36] <aaa801> i took it out blew it lobed it back in and booting
[14:37] <aaa801> yep
[14:37] <aaa801> works :D
[14:37] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, they work at 5v
[14:38] <aaa801> using pin2 instead of pin1 as power
[14:39] <gordonDrogon> I2C is a pull-down bus, so as long as no device puts power on it, it should work.
[14:39] <aaa801> pull down ?
[14:39] <gordonDrogon> however some 'fast' devices do actively power the bus to get it back up to a high level quicker.
[14:39] <gordonDrogon> the bus sits at 3.3v (on the pi) and the devices pull it down via open-collector type drivers.
[14:40] <mgottschlag> "<aaa801> got 3rd on 23 instead of 22" - did you set both A0 and A1, or did you pull A0 to GND again (different from the second IC!)
[14:40] <aaa801> i put a0 and a1 to 1
[14:40] <aaa801> a2 to -
[14:40] <aaa801> a2 to 0
[14:40] <Jck_true> Weird question - But what type of light do you guys have at your desk/workspace?
[14:40] <mgottschlag> A0 and A1 = 1 means 0x20 + 011b = 0x20 + 0x3 = 0x23
[14:40] <aaa801> i hate bits :(
[14:41] <aaa801> so i need to put a2 and a1 to 1
[14:41] <aaa801> and a0 to 0 ?
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[14:41] <mgottschlag> okay, if these are the bits:
[14:41] <mgottschlag> a2 a1 a0
[14:41] <mgottschlag> then these are the values for it:
[14:42] <mgottschlag> 4 2 1
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[14:42] <aaa801> Ok :D
[14:42] <mgottschlag> so you want 0x20 + 2, then you only set the "2" bit which is a1
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[14:42] <mgottschlag> (that is why 110b is 4 + 2 = 0x6)
[14:42] <aaa801> o for the love of god, i have it on 26 now
[14:43] <mgottschlag> (which would be what you got if you would set a2 and a1)
[14:43] <aaa801> indeeds
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[14:44] <aaa801> http://i.imgur.com/OqNJQkb.png
[14:44] <aaa801> success :D
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[14:45] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, can i power a led on this or will that cause issues since its 5v
[14:46] <mgottschlag> every LED can be powered from 5V with the right resistor
[14:46] <aaa801> ye im more concerned with backfeed to gpio since its on 5v
[14:46] <aaa801> instead of 3v3
[14:46] <aaa801> dont want pi exploding
[14:46] <aaa801> :D
[14:47] <mgottschlag> huh, where do you want to connect it? :)
[14:47] <aaa801> 23017 chip
[14:47] <mgottschlag> if you connect it between one of your ICs and the GND of the pi, than there is no way to backfeed power, because no 3.3V pin of the pi is connected
[14:47] <mgottschlag> and the 5V of the pi actually are where the power for LED comes from then
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[14:55] <aaa801> mhm
[14:55] <aaa801> i did PinMode(100, OUTPUT);
[14:55] <aaa801> and pullupdncontrol pud up
[14:55] <aaa801> no led light
[14:55] <aaa801> :(
[14:56] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, What am i doing wrong
[14:59] <aaa801> aha digitalwrite
[14:59] <aaa801> it livessss
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[15:14] <gordonDrogon> hi
[15:14] <gordonDrogon> ok - connect an LED and resistor (550??) to pin 0 on the first mcp23017.
[15:14] <gordonDrogon> then you can run this:
[15:15] <gordonDrogon> gpio -xmcp23017:0x20:0 mode 0 out
[15:15] <gordonDrogon> ah, no - wrong. sorrt.
[15:15] <gordonDrogon> gpio -xmcp23017:100:0x20 mode 0 out
[15:15] <gordonDrogon> then
[15:15] <gordonDrogon> gpio -xmcp23017:100:0x20 write 100 1
[15:15] <gordonDrogon> the mode 0 above ought to be mode 100 out
[15:16] <gordonDrogon> new command and I've not gotten used to it yet!
[15:16] <gordonDrogon> it's -x <space> mcp23017:100:0x20
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[15:17] <gordonDrogon> the 100 is the pin-base we use here - it can be anything over 64 - it's not related to your program, just for this use here.
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[15:36] <zproc> hello
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[15:37] <aaa801> http://i.imgur.com/9nQeQ6V.jpg
[15:37] <zproc> i followed this tutorial to install shairport on a Pi where there's already MPD running, http://pihomeserver.wordpress.com/2012/12/05/raspberry-pi-home-server-etape-6-installer-un-serveur-airplay-avec-shairport/ ??? it's in french but you can see the commands, tho I don't see the AirPort server.. what can i do to find the problem?
[15:37] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, ^^
[15:39] <aaa801> what the.. gordonDrogon when i replug the pi the led is already on :S
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[15:39] <aaa801> aha gave it a few seconds and it goes off
[15:39] <aaa801> god dam data retanation
[15:41] <zproc> ah, actually if try to start shairport with "shairport.pl a- Something" i get "Can't locate Net/SDP.pm in @INC"
[15:41] <aaa801> o, sounds like a missing lib
[15:41] <zproc> seems like it, something i could install with cpan?
[15:42] <aaa801> cpan install Net::SDP
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, what stage are you at now?
[15:42] <zproc> trying, thanks
[15:42] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, got all the chips hooked up, led lights up with a little c program i made
[15:42] <aaa801> just waiting for the flaming segas to be delivered
[15:42] <gordonDrogon> :)
[15:43] <aaa801> ive also realised im going to need alot more protoboard for this
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> can you light/unlight the LEDs with the gpio program ?
[15:43] <aaa801> havnt tryed with the gpio program
[15:43] <aaa801> lemme check
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> actually if your C program does it OK, then it should be fine.
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[15:44] <aaa801> http://i.imgur.com/rn9xohh.png
[15:44] <aaa801> wasnt sure what side of the chip i had it hooked to
[15:45] <aaa801> gpio -xmcp23017:0x20:0 mode 0 out
[15:45] <aaa801> unknown command =/
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[15:45] <aaa801> o space
[15:46] <aaa801> keeps saying pinbase (0) too small with gpio
[15:46] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, gpio tool seems buggy =/
[15:46] <aaa801> pi@raspberrypi ~/romdumper $ gpio -x mcp23017:100:0x20 mode 0 out
[15:46] <aaa801> Module is: mcp23017
[15:46] <aaa801> pi@raspberrypi ~/romdumper $ gpio -x mcp23017:100:0x20 write 100 1
[15:46] <aaa801> Module is: mcp23017
[15:46] <aaa801> wopps
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[15:48] <aaa801> zproc, it lives ?
[15:48] <zproc> cpan still doing stuff
[15:48] <gordonDrogon> ah, that's debugging left in.
[15:48] <gordonDrogon> it should be: gpio -x mcp23017:100:0x20 mode 100 out
[15:48] <gordonDrogon> the number after the first : is the pin Base - 100 here.
[15:49] <aaa801> ok
[15:49] <aaa801> then what ?
[15:49] <gordonDrogon> I typoed that earlier.
[15:49] <gordonDrogon> So 100 is gpio port A, bit 0.
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[15:49] <gordonDrogon> or whatever you use for 100
[15:49] <aaa801> still no led lighting up
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[15:50] <aaa801> wait port A
[15:50] <zproc> aaa801: "Warning: Cannot install NET::SDP, don't know what it is." :/
[15:50] <aaa801> port a is the other side of the chip
[15:50] <aaa801> pin 1 is GPB0
[15:51] <aaa801> yep hooked it to the write port and it works
[15:51] <aaa801> :P
[15:51] <aaa801> right*
[15:52] <aaa801> thanks gordonDrogon
[15:52] <aaa801> zproc try sudo the command
[15:53] <zproc> oh damn, i forgot
[15:53] <zproc> i keep on forgetting on the Pi...
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[15:59] <zproc> aaa801: ok it's good, another case of tiredness (typed "NET" instead of "Net..etc")
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[15:59] <aaa801> aha :D
[16:00] <zproc> aaa801: thank you :)
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[16:03] <gholen> Hi! Anyone in here using synergy ac a client to a windowsbox for the pi?
[16:04] <gholen> I'd like som help, sience I cant seem to get it to start as I want to :=
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[16:04] <zproc> i see on a website to do "sudo rpi-update" to upgrade the firmware in order to fix the glitch audio output issue (the "click"/pop) but i don't have any rpi-update.. nor i can't apt-get install it
[16:06] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, do these chips have pwm or not ?
[16:06] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, no - they're just bit in/out.
[16:06] <aaa801> oky
[16:07] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, and i2c isn't fast enough to send commands to run software based pwm to them.
[16:07] <aaa801> aha ok
[16:07] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, although you can try with my softPWM module, but it'll all end in tears :)
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[16:17] <aaa801> son of a ******** someone just ddosed my dedicated
[16:17] <aaa801> null routed D:
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[16:20] <arcanescu> whats the fifo size when you create a fifo using mkfifo on the pi ?
[16:20] <arcanescu> does that in any way differ from say what you have on a desktop based system?
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[16:25] <jojo> mkfifo fifo && getconf PIPE_BUF fifo
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[16:30] <aaa801> rageeeeeeee
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[16:45] <aaa801> 24h null route, this sucks
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[16:50] <Viper-7> ReggieUK: wow really?
[16:51] <wroberts1> is there python interface to http://www.open.com.au/mikem/bcm2835/index.html
[16:51] <wroberts1> or something i need to do
[16:51] <Viper-7> the ops in this channel really give a bad name to the rpi foundation :/
[16:52] <aaa801> Viper-7, what ?
[16:52] <Viper-7> wroberts1: from what i understand, that bcm2835 lib is basically just wiringPi, stolen and slightly reworked
[16:52] <Viper-7> try wiringpi-python?
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[16:52] * Gadgetoid should really update wiringpi-python
[16:52] <aaa801> Viper-7, why you mad with reggie :P?
[16:52] <Gadgetoid> I think bcm2825 might have been derived from wiringPi long before wiringPi was reworked
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[16:53] <Viper-7> aaa801: people have been instantly banned (without any warning) for posting a link containing a swear word in the message body, other people like yourself get kicked for even a bunch of *'s, other people swear freely and get away with it (because they're friends with an op)
[16:53] <Viper-7> aaa801: no consistency, no real guidelines for people to follow to be safe, etc
[16:54] <aaa801> err im sorry Viper-7 but im friends with reggieuk and he still kicks me for it
[16:54] <aaa801> so i dont think any favoritism is in place here
[16:54] <Viper-7> aaa801: different ops apply different rules
[16:54] <Viper-7> thats the problem
[16:54] <IT_Sean> Viper-7: we don't play favorites here. If someone swears and gets away with it, it's because we didn't see it.
[16:55] <Viper-7> IT_Sean: there was an incident from ReggieUK only the other day, where he let someone get away with it, and only kicked them (jokingly) after someone called him on it
[16:55] <Viper-7> just seriously guys, sit down and sort out some rules, you're really making a bad name for yourselves here
[16:56] <IT_Sean> Viper-7: you are absolutely right, we do need published rules. I've been meaning to sit down and write one up for a while now, but between work, and other social crap, i really haven't had the time.
[16:57] <IT_Sean> It has been on our to-do list for a while now.
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[16:57] <ReggieUK> Viper-7, you're referring to a couple of specific points that have clearly annoyed a couple of people but you have no idea of the amount of warnings we issue, or how we issue them
[16:57] <IT_Sean> In fact, we were just discussing that earlier this morning.
[16:58] <ReggieUK> so whilst I appreciate that we can appear heavy handed, we're really not most of the time
[16:58] * ChanServ sets mode +o gordonDrogon
[16:58] * gordonDrogon looks at his hands ...
[16:58] <Lamperi> I can't see how it can be difficult to avoid typing swear words
[16:58] <Viper-7> ReggieUK: thats the problem, its fine to be heavy handed, as long as you're consistent :/ atm its luck of the draw, just up to who sees it, and what mood they're in
[16:59] <gordonDrogon> Lamperi, it takes a concious decision to type something. the spoken word is quicker through the mind.
[16:59] <Lamperi> It's more difficult when you speak, because if I hurt myself I could throw a bad word out of my mouth or something, but typing is a different thing
[16:59] <gordonDrogon> slower..
[16:59] <Viper-7> meh, it just pains me to see such a simple matter create such bad press - i know i've been vocal about it here, but only because i'm trying to help - this channel already has a reputation that people talk about elsewhere
[17:00] <ReggieUK> and I bet the people that talk are the ones that have been kicked or banned
[17:00] <Viper-7> or like myself, have seen it happen and were shocked and dismayed
[17:00] <IT_Sean> There is that. :p
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[17:00] <seba--> f8l, /etc/default/rcS FSCFIX really solved it i think, but still not 100% sure
[17:01] <Viper-7> eg i wont post links here anymore at all, its just not worth the risk
[17:02] <gordonDrogon> links are fine - it's the content that might not be.
[17:02] <Viper-7> if some user comment 2000 lines deep in the page happens to contain a swear, it seems is enough to earn a ban
[17:02] <seba--> just stop with this swearing nonsense, why it's banned anyway
[17:02] <ReggieUK> it just takes a little bit of common sense as to whether it's appropriate for the most part
[17:03] <ReggieUK> and I don't remember the incident in question Viper-7
[17:03] <ReggieUK> seba--, not going to happen, it's a family friendly channel
[17:03] <seba--> sooner or later it will
[17:04] <IT_Sean> ... no. it won't.
[17:04] <ReggieUK> ^^
[17:04] <seba--> i bet in 100 years nobody will care about swearing on #raspberrypi@freenode
[17:04] <Lamperi> there are lots of comments and threads on raspberrypi.org which contain swear words
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[17:05] <seba--> and if i'm still alive then, i'll happily swear to prove the point!
[17:05] <Viper-7> we have zero tolerance for swearing in ##php, probably for ten times longer than this channel has existed, but we've still probably had less issues in total :S
[17:06] <neilr> Meanwhile, in other news, Warren East, the current ARM CEO has just retired, aged 51. I think I may apply for the vacancy and the share options that come with it.
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[17:20] <chupacabra> im booted off #gentoo for some of my midnight orations.
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[17:22] <Firehopper> http://www.flickr.com/photos/firehopper/sets/72157633033134107/
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[17:33] <aaa801> o noes flickr
[17:33] <aaa801> ceo of flickr *mhm lets see how many times we can make someone click a image until its actualy big enouth to see(
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[17:34] <ShadowJK> it's somewhere between the dollaramount yahoo spent on flickr, and infinity
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[17:37] <aaa801> indeed :P
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[17:39] * Firehopper laughs :)
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[17:39] <aaa801> mhm, finding any info about the freking protocol used for nds cards is a pain :(
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[17:43] <Pumtrix> Hi, I can see the list of verified USB dongles on the wiki but is there a list with AP capabilities?
[17:44] <yaodin> I am switching a transistor (2N4401) with a gpio pin in series with a 1k resistor. The collector is connected to 12V0 however when I turn the gpio on, the emitter reads ~3V2 (3V3 - transistor voltage drop). What the heck is going on. Also there is a 3V3 zenner diode between the gpio and ground.
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[17:48] <gordonDrogon> yaodin, lookup emitter follower - the emitter will *never* be higher than the base.
[17:48] <mgottschlag> yaodin: is the emitter actually connected to something different from your voltmeter?
[17:48] <mgottschlag> hm, indeed
[17:49] <yaodin> Don't think my voltmeter is lying, though this doesn't make sense.
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[17:50] <gordonDrogon> what is the emitter connected to?
[17:50] <yaodin> nothing, just floating
[17:50] <yaodin> i've tried it with a load though
[17:50] <gordonDrogon> well that's not really going to help.
[17:50] <gordonDrogon> connect it to 0v
[17:50] <gordonDrogon> then connect your load to the collector.
[17:50] <mgottschlag> if you want to switch a higher voltage, you have to place the switch at the low side
[17:50] <gordonDrogon> so +3.3 -> load -> collector -> emitter -> 0v
[17:50] <mgottschlag> *the transistor
[17:51] <gordonDrogon> if you connect it like: +3.3 -> collector -> emitter -> load -> 0v then the load will *never* see more than the base votlage mins the base/emitter voltage drop (usuall 0.7v)
[17:51] <gordonDrogon> you need to learn some more basic electronics.
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[17:51] <yaodin> That doesn't make much sense to me. I need to drive a 12v light with the gpio. So collector goes to 12v, emitter goes to light, light to ground.
[17:52] <gordonDrogon> 12v -> light -> collector -> transistor -> emitter -> 0v.
[17:52] <gordonDrogon> put it on the collector, not the emitter.
[17:52] <yaodin> gotcha
[17:53] <gordonDrogon> and gpio -> 1K -> base
[17:53] <gordonDrogon> technically you could work out the voltage required at the base to switch 12v though.
[17:53] <yaodin> yeah, i just realized my schematic is different than my wireing
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[17:55] <gordonDrogon> however the Hfe is 20 minimum so all you need is 12/20 volts on the base to make the lamp light, so shoving 3.3v into it is going to make sure it's saturated.
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[17:55] <gordonDrogon> and note it can switch 600mA MAX.
[17:56] <gordonDrogon> so that's a ? watt 12v bulb.
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[17:57] <gordonDrogon> oops, bad math (waits for someone to correct .............. nope) - 5 watt bulb.
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[18:06] <aaa801> damit ebay seller why are you so slow at dispatching
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[18:07] <aaa801> Mhm courier picked it up a few hours ago
[18:09] <Pumtrix> Anyone know any good Access Point wifi dongles? Sorry to keep pestering aha.
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[18:10] <aaa801> i know a few good ones, but none that will run on the pi (too power hungry)
[18:11] <IT_Sean> wifi or 3G dongles will pretty much all need a powered USB hub, i think.
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[18:13] <Pumtrix> Yeah I've got the powered usb hub.
[18:13] <Pumtrix> and the 4g dongle connected to that.
[18:13] <Pumtrix> I've managed to get it working that side.
[18:13] <Pumtrix> ^^
[18:13] <Pumtrix> Just focusing on finding the right adapter for the wifi side.
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[18:16] <aaa801> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Alfa-AWUS036H-802-11b-Wireless-network/dp/B002WCEWU8 range on these things is amazing
[18:17] <Pumtrix> ahah picking up the street's wifi.
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[18:18] <aaa801> used to
[18:18] <aaa801> when i was living in youth hostels
[18:18] <aaa801> got my own place with 80mb fibre now :D
[18:19] <aaa801> dont bother with the n version of that tho
[18:19] <aaa801> too damn buggy
[18:19] <Pumtrix> I doubt the pi would support that if it's got a massive range it'll hammer the power.
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[18:19] <Pumtrix> It's been quite fun messing with the pi tbh.
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[18:20] <Pumtrix> shame i don't have that much time all the time.
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[18:21] <zproc> i got two TP-Link TL-WN725N as wifi dongle, they work on a 256mb and 512 Pi's without usb hub
[18:21] <zproc> ah, access point dongles
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[18:21] <Baikonur> i've got an upcoming school project, where i need to use rpi with wifi
[18:21] <Pumtrix> Yeah. I have a few dongles lurking around.
[18:22] <Pumtrix> but none of them support ap.
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[18:22] <zproc> i don't think this one support AP, i tried to used a Raspbian remix for a pirate box and couldn't set it up tho i haven't tried har
[18:22] <zproc> hard*
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[18:23] <Baikonur> need to grab weatherdata form the internet, and show upcoming forecast with something else than a pc display
[18:23] <Baikonur> *from
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[18:24] <zproc> do i really need to have my usb drive i want to access with samba as guest with read/write owned by guest:guest? cause i use this drive with MPD so i set up the rights as mpd:audio
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[18:27] <aaa801> stupid internet
[18:28] <aaa801> Pumtrix, definatly need a powered hub :)
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[18:33] <Pumtrix> is infrastructure mode the same as access point mode?
[18:34] <mgottschlag> I know infrastructure mode as the opposite of adhoc mode
[18:34] <mgottschlag> for clients, not for the access point
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[18:35] <Pumtrix> hmm.
[18:37] <zproc> (ok so to answer my question, mpd can read my usb drive even when it's as guest:guest)
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[18:55] <chupacabra> turned off samba on openlec machine and now it rocks.
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[18:56] <rideh> Pumtrix: i'm using one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833315091
[18:57] <rideh> Pumtrix: works fine directly on pi or connected to powered hub, though won't work on unpowered hub if you have a keyboard or anything else connected
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[18:58] <chupacabra> i had just hooked ethernet instead of wifi thinking wifi was killing me. not... was samba
[18:59] <chupacabra> but now I have a wifi usb dongle for my new Pi
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[19:00] <[Saint]> I added the ability for the spindle scripts to prompt during setup for the default username/password
[19:01] <[Saint]> working on an alternate stage 3 script to make an absolutely minimal image
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[19:02] <Pumtrix> It supports access point mode rideh?
[19:02] <[Saint]> the most interesting thing, I think, is not being stuck with the "pi" user - as it is annoying to change before booting the image the first time, and even more annoying to change afterwards
[19:03] <rideh> Pumtrix: i can test when i get home. I'm not sure but many people are using that adapter so you might find something on google.
[19:03] <Pumtrix> I'll have a look into it
[19:03] <Pumtrix> thanks fella.
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[19:03] <[Saint]> when I've finished here, I'll see if there's any interest in pumping out point releases at fixed intervals or not.
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[19:04] * [Saint] assumes pre-madeup-to-date minimal raspbian images are a thing people might want
[19:05] <[Saint]> *pre-made up-to-date
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[19:06] <zproc> [Saint]: j
[19:06] <zproc> oops
[19:07] <zproc> [Saint]: i used this one as a minimal image http://sirlagz.net/2013/02/14/raspbian-server-edition-version-2-3/
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[19:07] <bacteu> [Saint]: why do you need up to date when it takes a couple keystrokes to fully and automatically update the system?
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[19:08] <[Saint]> bacteu: why not? downloading an old image and updating it is just a waste of bandwidth
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[19:09] <[Saint]> I can trivially pump out point releases now, so, ...why not> :)
[19:09] <zproc> saves time for a lot of users yeah
[19:09] <[Saint]> s/>/?/
[19:09] <bacteu> [Saint]: when your OS is less than a gb it's not really much to ask in the days of 100mbit
[19:09] <bacteu> unless you live in australia
[19:09] <bacteu> and who cares about australia
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[19:10] <[Saint]> ...ass
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[19:10] <bacteu> me?
[19:10] <[Saint]> Wha? Heh - no, but, that did fit well. :)
[19:11] <[Saint]> Script hit a bump in the road.
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[19:11] <bacteu> [Saint]: are you a rockbox dev?
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[19:11] <[Saint]> Of sorts.
[19:11] <[Saint]> Yes, I am "that [Saint]".
[19:11] <[Saint]> :)
[19:12] <bacteu> is that project still going? It feels like they haven't done anything new in the past couple of years
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[19:12] <Kane> bonsoir
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[19:12] <bacteu> [Saint]: I don't know who that [Saint] is, I was going from your cloak.
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[19:12] <[Saint]> I guess the 6~8 releases in those couple of years don't count? :)
[19:12] <zproc> hello / bonsoir Kane
[19:13] <[Saint]> Hehe...Rockbox is very much active.
[19:13] <bacteu> [Saint]: For new devices?
[19:13] <[Saint]> Sure.
[19:13] <Kane> hello zproc
[19:13] <kkit> it can even run on the pi!
[19:13] <[Saint]> it can indeed.
[19:13] <bacteu> I tried rockbox on my sansa clip+ for a while
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[19:13] <bacteu> but I preferred the vanilla experience in the end.
[19:13] <bacteu> I wasn't really that fussed about flac etc support
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[19:19] <fr0g911> hi
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[19:28] <aaa801> ReggieUK, know anything about network config in linux ?
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[19:34] <gordonDrogon> I know a little...
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[19:35] <[Saint]> Hum - I should've added a little more sanity to this script output
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[19:35] * [Saint] dislikes long periods of thinking a script has hung
[19:36] <jelly1> aaa801: it works :p
[19:36] <[Saint]> jelly1: I suspect OP wants a little more info than that ;)
[19:36] <aaa801> good, ive been given a kvm from my host which is buggy as heck and now im dealing with a dam ubuntu but preventing me from adding a virtual interface
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[19:37] <jelly1> KVM :)
[19:37] <aaa801> kits the worse kvm ever
[19:37] <aaa801> it cuts off the bottem 5 lines of screen
[19:37] <aaa801> and the first char of every line
[19:37] <aaa801> :@
[19:37] <jelly1> hrrm
[19:37] <jelly1> why do you want to add a virtual interface?
[19:37] <aaa801> my main ip has been null routed
[19:37] <aaa801> i have 4 more i can add
[19:37] <aaa801> i need to get on the server =/
[19:37] <jelly1> wtf
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[19:38] <jelly1> talk about it with your hoster ;)
[19:38] <aaa801> hoster is being a little so and so
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[19:38] <aaa801> HelpDesk:
[19:38] <aaa801> This is not something I am going to be able to help you with as we are a 100% unmanaged provider.
[19:38] <aaa801> even though they did it for my friends server
[19:38] <aaa801> -.-
[19:38] <jelly1> hrrm
[19:38] <SwK> what did you do to get null routed?
[19:38] <nid0> better provider needed
[19:38] <aaa801> 5Gbps ddos
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[19:39] <SwK> ouch
[19:40] <jelly1> wtf
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[19:54] <aaa801> stupid ubuntu but
[19:54] <aaa801> bug
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[20:05] <_inc> 'evening all
[20:05] <tonyhughes> Morning@
[20:06] <_inc> :)
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[20:06] * gyeben is playing minecraft
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[20:08] * tonyhughes is reply to forum posts where a guy says because he has zero linux knowledge and cant just copy wheezy img to his SD without following instructions, that its "against the spirit of computer programming" sigh
[20:09] <tonyhughes> oops getting late in the morning, better get the kids to school
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[20:11] <_inc> has anyone had 'cowyboy coffee' before?
[20:11] <_inc> or better yet made it
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[20:13] <Firehopper> http://www.flickr.com/photos/firehopper/8571797873/in/photostream
[20:13] <Xeph> sounds like a beer in the morning
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[20:20] <[Saint]> heh - furries - furries everywhere.
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[20:30] <jbollden> can I do something to my raspberry pi to get http://www.buyraspberrypi.com.au/raspberry-pi-802-11bgn-usb-wireless-dongle/ working in the onboard-USB-port with the normal power adapter? At the moment it seems that I need to put the dongle in a powered usb hub...
[20:32] <[Saint]> jbollden: the raspi can only supply 140mA via USB
[20:33] <[Saint]> ...and, sometimes not even that if your power supply is crap.
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[20:33] <seba--> jbollden, hm you could increase the power (mA rating) of your power supply and then bypass from input micro-usb
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[20:33] <seba--> to output usb the 5V
[20:33] <seba--> line :)
[20:34] <Xeph> mh, is there a working fix to get rid of those "eth0: kevent 2 dropped" messages? i cant see anything in the syslog anymore :) those workrounds in the forums did not help here (such as increasing min_free_kbytes etc)
[20:34] <seba--> but i wouldn't reccomend connecting the 5V line which already is on the USB port
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[20:34] <seba--> because it has some voltage drop
[20:35] <seba--> and it would be at lower voltage than input
[20:35] <jbollden> what mA does that donge require?
[20:35] <seba--> jbollden, 500 mA
[20:35] <jbollden> o_0
[20:35] <[Saint]> Hahahahaha - yeah, that's not happening :)
[20:36] <seba--> jbollden, there's a solution maybe
[20:36] <seba--> jbollden, you could decrease the output power
[20:36] <seba--> jbollden, if the chip on the usb supports it, it maybe will work :)
[20:36] <[Saint]> Get a powered hub, and power the raspi through the hub.
[20:36] <jbollden> [Saint]: That's my setup at the moment
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[20:37] <jbollden> seems that they don't really are honest about the device
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[20:37] <lunchdump> could connecting the power supply to the wrong GPIO pin ever possibly cause problems booting the pi?
[20:37] <[Saint]> what makes you say that?
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[20:37] <[Saint]> if you read the material given to you when you bought it - you'd know this wasn't possible.
[20:37] <jbollden> where did you find the "500 mA" info?
[20:38] <[Saint]> it very clearly states the power the device can supply, and the power supply requirements.
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[20:38] <jbollden> [Saint]: You are probably right, I interpreted it as "plug it in you pi and go"
[20:38] <lunchdump> my pi didn't come with reading materials :o
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[20:39] <lunchdump> but the wiki does :D
[20:39] <[Saint]> lunchdump: who did you buy through? It should come with power and safety instruction and a quick setup guide in the box.
[20:39] <lunchdump> MCE ?
[20:40] <lunchdump> I could have forgotten
[20:40] <[Saint]> It is easily overlooked, you probably thought it was something you shouldn't bother with and threw it away :)
[20:41] <lunchdump> Probably.. luckily i had read extensively the wiki before ordering and got the right power supply :O
[20:43] <lunchdump> I've got a problem with my pi not booting. The PWR light is bright for a fraction of a second then goes a little dim, then nothing happens.
[20:43] <lunchdump> is this common?
[20:43] <[Saint]> anyway - that dongle needs 160mA for transmit, and 125mA for recieve - so, yeah - its not going to happen in the raspi's USB port(s).
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[20:44] <[Saint]> jbollden: ^
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[20:44] <jbollden> [Saint]: ok, how do you find that data? I'm googling but no =(
[20:45] <[Saint]> I guess I'm just a better Googler.
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[20:45] <jbollden> [Saint]: so it seems
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[20:46] <[Saint]> here's the product spec for the wifi module the dongle uses: https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:HfizDSaqAMkJ:https://www.olimex.com/Products/Modules/RF/MOD-WIFI-RTL8188/resources/module_WM294_spec.pdf+&hl=en&gl=nz&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShEIACxEsuShW2tWRPbYVOGpZNp3YLfcesiZITgZXe-dUX7WWYRGFy7S-ExPL5nNOm3sV-2csPF7WIFbaRGSdhwflMTFh0nNCJAlqO9OPnxnMRFy_J5Y2aO1zw88FAhyTnrn-52&sig=AHIEtbTUF4CGedKjU2cLV6pBgwQBLFFFsQ
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[20:46] <[Saint]> ahhhhh - screw you Chrome.
[20:47] <steve_rox2> managed to get into some android diagnostic screen but its all in chineese :-/
[20:47] <[Saint]> my 'shorten long links" extension barfed, apparently
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[20:49] <steve_rox2> i need some kinda japineese on screen keyboard thing
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[20:52] <jbollden> [Saint]: so that mean I the operating mA is 160+125?
[20:53] <[Saint]> maximum, yes.
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[20:55] <jbollden> [Saint]: ah =)
[20:57] <jbollden> [Saint]: and next stupid question, how did you figure out it's the 5V board?
[20:57] <[Saint]> the way I read it, is that in an absolute worst case scenario, max send+max recieve strength, you're going to be consuming just slightly over two times what the port can supply.
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[20:57] <jbollden> [Saint]: aye
[20:59] <[Saint]> and - it really doesn't matter if it is the 3.3V or 5V module - both consume too much.
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[21:00] <jbollden> [Saint]: Yeah I get that, just trying to learn. I'm a software guy and want to be more hardware
[21:00] <[Saint]> 5V will be pulling 225mA, 3.3V will be pulling 285mA
[21:00] <[Saint]> both of which aren't 140mA :)
[21:00] <jbollden> true
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[21:07] <gordonDrogon> can someone check that I'm not thinking gibberish - a frequency of 200KHz would mean a period of 5?S or 2.5?S on and 2.5?s off or am I out by a big factor?
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[21:09] <seba--> lunchdump
[21:10] <bertrik> gordonDrogon: sounds correct
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[21:10] <seba--> gordonDrogon, ?
[21:10] <seba--> gordonDrogon, c = lambda * frequency
[21:10] <seba--> oh sorry
[21:11] <seba--> gordonDrogon, i meant time period = 1 / frequency
[21:11] <seba--> gordonDrogon, how much is on or off you don't know
[21:12] <seba--> gordonDrogon, that's duty cycle
[21:12] <gordonDrogon> assuming a square wave.
[21:12] <seba--> gordonDrogon, you only know that the pattern repeats every 5 uS
[21:12] <gordonDrogon> someon'es writtne something with wiringPi and I think they've just screwed up their calculations
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[21:12] <Gadgetoid> Ohai gordonDrogon, I just designed my first microprocessort
[21:13] <gordonDrogon> they want 200KHz and have 100?S on and 100?S off - which is 5KHz in my books - but I just wanted to check the numbers.
[21:13] <lunchdump> seba--: ?
[21:13] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, well done :)
[21:13] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, now build it...
[21:13] <seba--> lunchdump, tell me more
[21:13] <Gadgetoid> I need to think of a catchy acronym for the instruction set, I might have to reverse engineer one from "SUCK" or "FAIL"
[21:13] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Working on that, using VHDL
[21:14] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, I'm after an update on wiringPython soon , but will drop you an email about it - (do I have your email?)
[21:14] <seba--> gordonDrogon, yes, that's a 50% duty cycle and 5 kHz
[21:14] <Gadgetoid> My grasp of timings is still absolutely abysmal, my simple counting program ( written in my own version of assembly and compiled using my own Ruby compiler ) was doubling the number at first
[21:14] <gordonDrogon> seba--, thanks for checking - thought I might be going mad!
[21:14] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Not sure, but my email is easy to guess/find if you need it! I think you have it anyway
[21:14] <seba--> gordonDrogon, np
[21:15] <lunchdump> seba--: My pi was working fine all yesterday until at night, the power light c omes on but activity doesn't blink. i was powering it through the 5v pins with a 2A/5v power supply
[21:15] <Gadgetoid> I'm well aware that a wiringPython update is waaaaaaaay overdue
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[21:15] <lunchdump> but now even with everything detached, and a microusb 1a supply it still will not power properly..
[21:15] <Gadgetoid> Same with Ruby and all that kerfuffle
[21:15] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, drop me an email if you can - just so I have your email address handy.
[21:16] <Gadgetoid> Might ask if I can port the Ruby IO expander i2c drivers to wiringPi
[21:16] <seba--> lunchdump, try a different SD card with basic system on, or try to format the card (maybe make an image of it first, for backup)
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[21:17] <Gadgetoid> This seemed like a good library, but it specifically relies on exported virtual device files: https://github.com/andec/i2c
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[21:17] <lunchdump> seba--: OK, I was going to try that first, btu I've got to run to a store to get an SD card reader. I seemed to have lost my others since moving. thanks
[21:17] <Gadgetoid> If I can get wiringPi i2c up and running within a wrapper, I can re-code it to support whatever gloriously fast C access wiringPi gives to i2c ( I haven't checked! )
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[21:18] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Feel free to remind me to do more with your Ladder board, I need to publish some Ruby examples and whatnot for it!
[21:19] <Gadgetoid> Oh and your i2c example in C really helped me learn the ins-and-outs of the IO expander
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[21:19] <Gadgetoid> I suspect I'll need to do a push on this stuff before my Papilio arrives and I get sucked into a deep, dark chasm of HDL
[21:20] <Gadgetoid> My micro program counts its way to the end of the ROM, loops around and overflows the counter.. kaboom!
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[21:24] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, wiringPi v2 hides all that IO expander stuff now :)
[21:24] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, you just tell it the expander is at pin number 100, then digitalWrite (100, 1), etc.
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[21:24] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Interesting! How do you tell it what address the expander is on?
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[21:25] <gordonDrogon> Gadgetoid, http://unicorn.drogon.net/stress.c has an example.
[21:25] <Gadgetoid> My new binary: 4001 411f 4201 4302 8010 9108 6002 9004 8030 910c 7002 9008 3001 4001 4100 4200 wheee!
[21:26] <Gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Aha, very nice!
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[21:32] <adb> gordonDrogon, sorry but i found a typo in 'We have a VoIP telephony platform and can produce custom VoIP soluions.'
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[21:34] -RichiH- [Global Notice] Hi all. PDPC, freenode???s parent organisation, has been dissolved. Details can be found at http://blog.freenode.net/ with a static copy at http://planet.freenode.net/
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[21:36] <gordonDrogon> adb, doesn't surprise me -I'm dyslexic and spelling in not my greatest thing.
[21:38] <wroberts1> sudo python setup.py install
[21:38] <wroberts1> WiringPi/wiringPi/piNes.c:25:22: fatal error: wiringPi.h: No such file or directory
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[21:39] <pksato> y
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[21:40] <wroberts1> #include <wiringPi.h> or "wiringPi.h"
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[21:40] -mrmist- [Global Notice] As a P.S. to the last global, no, we're not dying or going away. If the blog is down, you can read details at https://plus.google.com/b/104326727082310562426/104326727082310562426/posts/CMW4Gst657v thanks for flying freenode!
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[21:48] <gordonDrogon> wroberts1, <wiringPi.h>
[21:48] <gordonDrogon> assuming you're compiling a C program..
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[21:52] <wroberts1> i mean from piNes.c when doing: sudo python setup.py install (for wiringPi-python)
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[21:57] <gordonDrogon> oh - see Gadgetoid :)
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[22:00] <wroberts1> i think its the issue of having to build & install wiringPi before attempting wiringpi-pythyon
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[22:06] <aaa801> http://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/1alebb/can_you_guess_what_it_is_going_to_be_yet/
[22:06] <aaa801> karma :3
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[22:08] <Gadgetoid> Sure that old piNes chestnut was fixed, might have been a pull request for it
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[22:09] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, try to keep the I2C wires short if possible.
[22:09] <aaa801> im kinda limited on my jumper cables atm
[22:09] <aaa801> i have to trek to maplin tomorrow
[22:09] <aaa801> but ye, cables from board to rpi are too damn long
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[22:10] * tonyhughes can't believe he has a "spare pi" - as if such a thing could exist. Oh what to do with it...
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[22:11] <JohannesG> send it to me
[22:14] <Firehopper> http://www.flickr.com/photos/firehopper/8571797873/in/photostream < do this with it?
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[22:15] <zleap> Firehopper, nice
[22:15] <Firehopper> thanks :)
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[22:15] <gordonDrogon> tonyhughes, Ha! Lucky you - I lost one last weekend )-:
[22:16] <JohannesG> gordonDrogon: I wonder if that is somehow connected to tonyhughes having an extra one
[22:16] <JohannesG> ;)
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[22:17] <bacteu> tonyhughes: there's an isp in austria who will let you use your pi in their datacenter for free if you ship it to them
[22:19] <mythos> bacilla, which one?
[22:19] <mythos> bacteu*
[22:20] <bacteu> edis
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[22:21] <mythos> wtf... going to ship it tomorrow #D
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[22:21] <mythos> thanks, bacteu =D
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[22:22] <tonyhughes> JohannesG, wishful
[22:22] <tonyhughes> *lost*?
[22:22] <tonyhughes> as in "misplaced"?
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[22:23] <bacteu> mythos: no problem, you won't be able to get it back if you change your mind though
[22:23] <mythos> bacteu, ok. good to know
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[22:30] <tonyhughes> Firehopper, very cool Pi computer
[22:30] <Firehopper> thanks :)
[22:30] <tonyhughes> sorry having connectivity issues here
[22:31] <Firehopper> its not quite finished yet.. need to get some tiny heatsinks for the pi and lcd controller.. and then mount the fan
[22:31] <tonyhughes> WiFI keeps dropping on Ubuntu 12.10 on my L650 Toshiba
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[22:36] <tonyhughes> Just thought of an idea for the Pi, but not sure where to start. I'd like to have one plugged into my stereo, to stream music to.
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[22:37] <bacteu> tonyhughes: look up mpd
[22:38] <tank71> hello
[22:38] <bacteu> tonyhughes: it will allow you to control your raspberry pi music player daemon from anywhere, including smartphones and browsers
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[22:39] <tonyhughes> I have a Bluetooth audio adapter which is great in the same room, but if i carry my phone to other end of house or upstairs, the audio garbles. WiFi via a Pi would be much better!
[22:41] <tank71> im also looking to setup someone like that soon
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[23:06] <bacteu> hmm, 2 more days and my pi has been awake for a month straight
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[23:11] <edman007> hrm... I just got my raspberrypi from allied...and I think they forgot to charge me...
[23:11] <tonyhughes> edman007 shhhhhhhhh
[23:11] <tonyhughes> lol
[23:12] <edman007> :D
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[23:18] <Firehopper> http://www.flickr.com/photos/firehopper/8571797873/in/photostream < edman007 do this with it? :)
[23:18] <gordonDrogon> Gah. how many times are you going to spam that link?
[23:18] <Flexnard> lol
[23:19] <Firehopper> sorry :>
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[23:20] <gordonDrogon> have you electrocuted yourself on the EL backlight yet?
[23:20] <edman007> Firehopper, heh
[23:20] <edman007> I'm making a submarine
[23:20] <edman007> already sent away for the PCB
[23:20] <Firehopper> nope gordonDrogon
[23:20] <gordonDrogon> why not?
[23:20] <edman007> waiting for it, and then I'll assemble
[23:20] <edman007> though now I got two rpi's
[23:20] <Firehopper> the inverter is mounted and is covered in a plastic shell :)
[23:21] <gordonDrogon> Hmph. Try harder!
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[23:41] <Tachyon`> eheh
[23:41] <Tachyon`> I've had a belt or two from inverter boards, mains is worse, much worse...
[23:42] <eggy> hm, if I keep having problems with my boot partion, is it time for a new sdcard?
[23:42] <Tachyon`> are you overclocking?
[23:42] <Tachyon`> do you always shutdown properly?
[23:43] <eggy> overclock yes (medium), shutdown properly yes.
[23:43] <Tachyon`> is the problematic card made by Kingston?
[23:43] <eggy> Amazon 16GB
[23:43] <Tachyon`> you could try no overclocking
[23:43] <Tachyon`> amazon don't make cards
[23:43] <Tachyon`> it must be something else underneath, so all bets are off there
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[23:43] <eggy> I've had the sd card for a good while, been sitting in my other pi which is not over clocked for months with no problems
[23:44] <Tachyon`> ah well, there you are then
[23:44] <Tachyon`> don't overclock -.o
[23:44] <eggy> ^.~ Guess not.
[23:44] <eggy> Just my boot partion though, the root fs seems fine so far
[23:44] <eggy> odd
[23:44] <Tachyon`> at lesat if you must overcock try something like boot from SD, root on USB stick
[23:44] <Tachyon`> that would be more reliable
[23:44] <Tachyon`> oh, odd
[23:45] <Tachyon`> the boot partition shouldn't be written to
[23:45] <eggy> happens when I use the rpi-update script
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[23:45] <Tachyon`> however if the addressing is being fubared at some point it may be writing to the start of the card instead of elsewhere
[23:45] <Tachyon`> then and only then?
[23:45] <Tachyon`> that might be writing to /boot actually
[23:45] <eggy> it does
[23:46] <eggy> Well, I'm going to format the sd I suppose
[23:46] <eggy> can't hurt to redo it all
[23:46] <Tachyon`> oh right, still, if writing to the rootfs is fine
[23:46] <Tachyon`> but writing to the bootfs is not... that sounds a bit odd
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[23:46] <Tachyon`> not like a hardware issue as wear leveling would move the dodgy sector if it were taht
[23:46] <eggy> Yeah, generally when I have corruption issues its both the boot partion and the root
[23:47] <eggy> that's when I replaced the sd card last, plus that sd card had a flakey lock switch
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[23:47] <Tachyon`> I had those issues myself at one time
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[23:47] <Tachyon`> but they went away with one fo the updates so no idea what caused it
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[23:48] <eggy> such an odd issue, not sure what's going on :-\
[23:48] <Tachyon`> I had it fail once without even a single reboot
[23:48] <Tachyon`> I have a picture somewhere
[23:48] <Tachyon`> like flash, boot, work work work, fail
[23:49] <Tachyon`> http://www.pokenet.co.uk/misc/files.pi/piwtf.jpg
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[23:55] <eggy> well, this sd card is certainly well used
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[23:56] <eggy> its been sitting in my orginal pi for 6 months (that runs 24/7)
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[23:59] <chithead> time for some discard

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