#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-04-10

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[0:10] <linuxstb> bin_bash: If the problem is that "omxplayer -o hdmi" doesn't give you any audio, then it's nothing to do with alsa - omxplayer doesn't use alsa.
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[0:12] <chod> messing with auto mounting a nsa
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[0:12] <chod> nas. but getting permission denied
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[0:21] <bin_bash> linuxstb, that's not the problem. the problem is there's no audio with mpg123 or mocp
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[0:43] <FunkyELF> ordering usb cable for power.... do I need a ferrite core or no?
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[0:55] <[Saint]> FunkyELF: no.
[0:55] <FunkyELF> [Saint]: ferrite cores are more for data right?
[0:55] <[Saint]> ...you just need it to not be made out of chewing gum and dental floss.
[0:56] <bin_bash> wtf my forum post has to be approved before its posted
[0:56] <bin_bash> that's horrible
[0:57] <bin_bash> i might go to debian if arch-arm keeps up like this, come on guys
[0:57] <bin_bash> oh. wrong channel
[0:57] <bin_bash> lol
[1:00] <applegekko> what does your config.txt in /boot say
[1:01] * bin_bash used a USB made from chewing gum and dental floss
[1:01] <Firehopper> it dont say anything, its a file :)
[1:01] <applegekko> hes on FIRE tonight people best hop along!
[1:01] <applegekko> :D
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[1:50] <chupacabra> "Ding Dong! The Witch Is Dead"
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[1:50] <sam_nazarko> A Thatcher joke, how fresh!
[1:51] <chupacabra> hey. im texan. first funny thing ive seen
[1:52] <sam_nazarko> Love how American's thought it was Cher dead because of the hashtag #nowthatchersdead
[1:52] <sam_nazarko> Americans*
[1:52] <chupacabra> lol
[1:52] <chupacabra> i was looking for chers obit
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[1:53] <chupacabra> thatcher means less than cher
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[2:09] <Tachyon`> Ding Dong the witch is dead is currently at number 2 on the itunes chart
[2:09] <Tachyon`> let's get it to number 1
[2:10] <Tachyon`> already is number 1 on amazon apparently
[2:11] <Tachyon`> not bad for a song over 70 years old
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[2:52] <ipsifendus> uhm, does anyone know how to git rid of the raspberry pi logo that shows up on the top console window (like just the straight command line, no X)? i don't even really know what it's called or how it's configured so i'm having trouble asking google???
[2:53] <n3hxs> splash icon..
[2:53] <n3hxs> maybe
[2:53] <pksato> this is a kernel splash
[2:54] <hybr1d8> compiled into kernel - can't be removed without recompile (or by disabling framebuffer console which you probably won't want)
[2:54] <ipsifendus> ah dang
[2:54] <pksato> normaly, it is a Tux penguin.
[2:54] <ipsifendus> well a recompile isn't so bad
[2:55] <ipsifendus> is it a plymouth thing? could i just trash the icon file or something as a hack?
[2:56] <kaste> no it's contained in the kernel image and what's a plymouth thing. Also why does it bother you?
[2:57] <kaste> maybe you could sneak in a clear early on in init
[2:58] <ipsifendus> oh, i've used plymouth once to change the ubuntu splash loading image??? and it's an aesthetic thing; i'm projecting this bash animation thing and the logo is a bit distracting???
[2:59] <sam_nazarko> make menuconfig and disable the 16-bit logo
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[3:04] <chupacabra> does it show on F3?
[3:04] <ipsifendus> o_0 testing this: echo "logo.nologo" >> /boot/cmdline.txt
[3:05] <Tachyon`> or use the 16 colour logo (it's Tux drinking a pint)
[3:06] <chupacabra> that tux
[3:06] <chupacabra> free beer too i bet
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[3:08] <ipsifendus> yay, worked!
[3:08] <ipsifendus> config > recompile
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[3:18] <yeik> so... got my chips. trying out an i2c chip.
[3:19] <shellbackpacific> call me a "noob" but what are ic2 chips used for..i see them all of the time but have no idea :)
[3:19] <yeik> i am using mine as GPIO expanders
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[3:20] <shellbackpacific> so to allow GPIO to power more devices (e.g. - sensors) ?
[3:20] <yeik> actually, the chip i have can send an interrupt signal if a pin as changed. so I could essentially use it as an input gpio expander very easily.
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[3:21] <yeik> not to power, but to access. because you only have limited number of GPIO pins, you can't control or collect status of more than that. say a large selection of LEDs or sensors for a home security system, or something else.
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[3:22] <shellbackpacific> oh so it will allow you to use, say, a single GPIO pin multiple times simultaneously ?
[3:22] <shellbackpacific> well.."simultaneously"
[3:23] <yeik> sort of. instead of using the GPIO you can actually use the built in i2c pins, as well as gpio. the i2c i have is 8 inputs/outputs. so from that i can control 8 different things using the i2c chip, and 3 connections to the pi
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[3:24] <shellbackpacific> interesting..thanks for the info
[3:25] <yeik> no problem.
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[3:25] <yeik> you can also use shift registers.
[3:26] <shellbackpacific> i'll def read more???still learning basics ???haven't needed to expand beyond single sensors yet
[3:26] <yeik> i don't know (yet) if you can run i2c in serial or dual configuration from the pi.
[3:26] <yeik> Yeah. I haven't worked with an i2c or shift register yet. so this is my first attempt and am still learning
[3:26] <shellbackpacific> nice
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[3:27] <yeik> ya
[3:27] <yeik> right now i have several things connected and just a bunch of switches so i want to see what i can learn from it
[3:28] <shellbackpacific> i want to hook up this parallax motion sensor i have???.bit nervous to do it w/o any resistors haha
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[3:29] <yeik> depends on what powers it.
[3:29] <yeik> Do you have any old electronics learning kits or a multimeter?
[3:30] <shellbackpacific> i have a multimeter
[3:30] <shellbackpacific> been messing around with my breadboard
[3:30] <shellbackpacific> the sensor is compat. with 3.3 and 5v
[3:31] <yeik> if you can use the multimeter to check the output voltage of the motion sensor to double check it is 3.3v you should be fine
[3:31] <shellbackpacific> willl pbly go with 3.3 to start
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[3:31] <shellbackpacific> can i do that w/o hooking it up to the board?
[3:31] <yeik> i just orderd stuff from mouser, got a whole crapload of stuff including i2c, shift registers, and zener diodes to protect my pi.
[3:32] <shellbackpacific> haha???i can relate???i'm a regular at radio shack now
[3:32] <shellbackpacific> stone's throw away from one
[3:32] <yeik> should be able to, depending on the sensor. ex, most sensors have 4 wires, 2 for power (positive and ground) and the others for the actual sending of information
[3:33] <yeik> nice. Radio shack is a little expensive for my taste
[3:33] <shellbackpacific> this one has 3, VCC, ground, and out
[3:33] <yeik> adafruit.com generally has good prices on stuff too, breadboards for a decent price.
[3:33] <shellbackpacific> yeah i'm learning more???love the convenience. Have gotten a few things from adafruit
[3:33] <yeik> ok. so you would just connect one end of the multimeter to ground, the other to out. hook up vcc to the 3.3v pin on the pi, or a 3.3v dc adapter.
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[3:34] <yeik> you could also try 5 v to see if the out voltage changes
[3:35] <shellbackpacific> hm???i'll try that thanks???currently backing up my pi disk image (dd) so the pi is not up.
[3:35] <yeik> ahh
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[3:36] <yeik> i have a couple sd cards, haven't had to swap any around or back them up yet.
[3:36] <yeik> good news is i see my i2c device. just need to learn how to read information from it
[3:36] <shellbackpacific> yeah i started getting to the point where i was writing a lot of scripts, etc???decided it would suck if the sd card started having problems
[3:37] <shellbackpacific> wish i could help ya! someday i guess :)
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[3:38] <yeik> #electronics is nice to go to for electrical help.
[3:38] <shellbackpacific> on freenode?
[3:38] <yeik> i haven't gotten into the scripting much, because i have plenty of computers
[3:38] <yeik> actually its ##electronics
[3:38] <yeik> yeah
[3:39] <shellbackpacific> nice i'll hang out there
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[3:54] <Matt> there's a forward in place, so #electronics will redirect you to ##electronics
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[3:57] <mattwj2002> howdy peeps
[3:58] <mattwj2002> are rev b pis easy to get?
[3:58] <coolty> depends where you live?
[3:58] <mattwj2002> I heard the "a" are hard to come by
[3:58] <mattwj2002> United States
[3:58] <coolty> then very easy
[3:58] <coolty> go to element14.com
[3:58] <mattwj2002> sweet
[3:58] <mattwj2002> I might want two!
[3:58] <mattwj2002> :)
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[3:58] <mattwj2002> they make awesome mythtv frontends
[3:58] <mattwj2002> :)
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[3:59] <mattwj2002> coolty: any delay in shipments?
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[3:59] <coolty> dunno
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[4:01] <coolty> mattwj2002: http://www.newark.com/raspberry-pi/raspbrry-modb-512m/model-b-assembled-board-only/dp/43W5302
[4:02] <mattwj2002> nice coolty
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[4:03] <mattwj2002> coolty: I am currently streaming a 720p mythtv recording to a $35 pi
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[4:04] <mattwj2002> :P
[4:04] <coolty> oh?
[4:04] <coolty> the rev a?
[4:04] <mattwj2002> rev b
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[4:06] <mattwj2002> rev a doesn't have ethernet
[4:06] <fr0g911> i got two more pi's hehe
[4:06] <mattwj2002> hehe
[4:06] <fr0g911> that makes 18 now
[4:06] * mattwj2002 gives fr0g911 some whip cream
[4:06] <mattwj2002> 18?
[4:06] <mattwj2002> O.o
[4:06] <mattwj2002> seriously
[4:06] <mattwj2002> ?
[4:06] <fr0g911> have no idea what im gonna do with them
[4:06] <shellbackpacific> good lord???no wonder they're hard to come by lol
[4:06] <fr0g911> yea
[4:07] <mattwj2002> pi cluster?
[4:07] <mattwj2002> :P
[4:07] <shellbackpacific> sweeee
[4:07] <shellbackpacific> t
[4:07] <fr0g911> i told yall about the 16 i have running in my house
[4:07] <mattwj2002> I didn't hear
[4:07] <mattwj2002> 16 pis wow
[4:07] <fr0g911> damn i need to make a post for it lol
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[4:08] <mattwj2002> you trying to start a bakery?
[4:08] <mattwj2002> :P
[4:09] <mattwj2002> that is a lot of pi
[4:09] <mattwj2002> ;)
[4:10] <yeik> i bought mine at adafruit
[4:10] <yeik> fr0g911, 16? wow
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[4:10] <fr0g911> 5 media centers in my house 3 for music in the bathrooms when you turn the lights on 2 control my door locks 1 for the garage 2 more for nas servers two for irc servers and one thats not working so well to control the lighting dim switch in my master bed room
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[4:10] <mattwj2002> fr0g911: what are you using for cases
[4:10] <mattwj2002> ?
[4:11] <yeik> fr0g911, you interfaced with i2c yet?
[4:11] <mattwj2002> how are they connected?
[4:11] <fr0g911> i dont use cases
[4:11] <mattwj2002> wireless?
[4:11] <fr0g911> cat5
[4:11] <mattwj2002> nice
[4:11] <fr0g911> ohh
[4:11] <fr0g911> forgot
[4:11] <fr0g911> one runs motion
[4:11] <fr0g911> for my 3 ipcams
[4:11] <mattwj2002> you are a pi addict
[4:11] <mattwj2002> :P
[4:12] <fr0g911> oh i forgot the new ones i got
[4:12] <fr0g911> are going in my cars
[4:12] <fr0g911> i hooked up an ipcam and wireless router in my car the other day
[4:12] <fr0g911> to advertise my company
[4:12] <fr0g911> at a hotel
[4:12] <fr0g911> lol
[4:13] <fr0g911> but i didnt have a pi setup in it
[4:13] <fr0g911> the pi will remote my router
[4:13] <mattwj2002> what type of company?
[4:13] <mattwj2002> vpn?
[4:13] <fr0g911> ipcam security
[4:13] <mattwj2002> oh okay
[4:14] <fr0g911> i work with foscam
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[4:14] <mattwj2002> cool fr0g911
[4:14] <fr0g911> i need some help though i have fallin into a small problem
[4:14] <Helldesk> any suggestions on where to start looking if I want to make a system that eats raw data (csv or whatever), spits it out into a database and draws graphs and trendlines based on that? Preferably something where the heavy lifting has been done already so I don't have to concentrate on reinventing the wheel...
[4:15] <Helldesk> something like a small weather station for example
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[4:16] <mattwj2002> Helldesk:
[4:16] <mattwj2002> catci graphs?
[4:17] <mattwj2002> nice nick by the way helldesk :P
[4:17] <Helldesk> :p
[4:17] <fr0g911> i have this house that wants a pi in a brick room and i've used afew nano wifi cards for the pi and its still sooo slow i cant run cat5 into the room without running alot of cable witch i dont want todo alot of work... is there a pretty good range cheap wifi wall plugin that can connect very good to wifi and i can plug a cat5 from the pi to
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[4:18] <Helldesk> oh, Catci: http://cacti.net/
[4:18] <mattwj2002> that would be it
[4:18] <mattwj2002> no idea if that would work
[4:18] <mattwj2002> just a thought
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[4:19] <Helldesk> hmm... php driven... I would prefer Python
[4:19] <Helldesk> but the bigger issue would be that it seems to be primarily an rrdtool frontend and not a general purpose thing
[4:20] <Helldesk> dunno if it adapts
[4:20] <chupacabra> cacti not trivial
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[4:22] <rpitin> The touchscreen and LVDS-HDMI converter I ordered has arrived. Forgot who it was that asked me to let them know when it arrived.
[4:23] <rpitin> Either way, photos of it are now up on the ol microblog http://rpitin.tumblr.com/
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[4:38] <mattwj2002> I have a question
[4:38] <mattwj2002> is raspberry pi open hardware?
[4:39] <mattwj2002> can anyone make it?
[4:39] <[Saint]> No.
[4:39] <Helldesk> in practice, the SoC is hard to source and the chip-on-chip package is hard to do for a hobbyist
[4:39] <mattwj2002> no
[4:39] <mattwj2002> I mean can any company manfacture it?
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[4:41] <Helldesk> I don't think anybody can prevent anybody from using the same SoC, it's on the market for whatever you want to make out of it, and if it happens to be compatible... but you would not be able to get a licence to use the name Raspberry Pi
[4:41] <pksato> yes. can do. But, not call a raspberry pi.
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[4:41] <mattwj2002> okay cool
[4:41] <mattwj2002> I was just curious
[4:42] <pksato> hardware not have a secrets. just a wiring.
[4:42] <Helldesk> it's not like you could fight the price of a non-profit piece of hardware
[4:42] <fr0g911> would this work for the pi
[4:42] <fr0g911> ZyXEL PLA407 HomePlug AV 200 Mbps Powerline Wall-Plug Adapter (Starter Kit - 2 Units)
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[4:42] <pksato> but, to compabible do RPi, need a rom mask. Its is a secret.
[4:42] <anew> how much of a performance hit do you take if u just leave desktop open all the time
[4:42] <mattwj2002> raspberry pi is non for profit?
[4:43] <applegekko> how to put win7 on pi?
[4:43] <[Saint]> applegekko: you don't.
[4:43] <anew> win7 what
[4:43] <anew> lol
[4:44] <pksato> windows RT, may be.
[4:44] <mattwj2002> microsucks!
[4:44] <mattwj2002> :)
[4:44] <anew> anyone know about performance and desktop
[4:44] <rpitin> Isn't everything buy the GPU open hardware on the pi?
[4:44] <anew> i'm running like 5 scripts ... but like to keep the startx open just becuase i'm lazy
[4:44] <anew> does it matter
[4:44] <applegekko> how to use windows on pi then dont know raspiben
[4:44] <rpitin> I remember hearing that somewhere
[4:45] <pksato> if gates fundation use RPi to some project, Microsoft can port windows to rpi. :)
[4:45] <rpitin> Why the fudgebars would you want to use windows?
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[4:46] <anew> please serious question
[4:46] <anew> he msut be trolling with that windows stuff
[4:46] <anew> rpitin what do u think about startx
[4:46] <rpitin> Probbably.
[4:46] <mattwj2002> anew:
[4:46] <rpitin> anew: what about it? its fine.
[4:46] <pksato> anew: use .xinitrc
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[4:46] <mattwj2002> I think the answer is depends
[4:46] <anew> yeah i mean if i leave it open will it bog down the machine a lot
[4:46] <mattwj2002> depends on what you are doing in the X windows system
[4:46] <anew> i am just too lazy to close it because i like phpmyadmin
[4:47] <anew> nothing, just iceweasel is open
[4:47] <anew> and i'm running 5 perl scripts
[4:47] <mattwj2002> doing what?
[4:47] <anew> the perl scripts ?
[4:47] <pksato> http://wiki.debian.org/Xinitrc
[4:47] <rpitin> anew: oh right, well it will obviously put some pressure on your system. Best way to see the impact is to run top in your shell with startx open and again without startx
[4:47] <anew> ah yeah
[4:47] <anew> will run top
[4:47] <anew> k thx
[4:47] <rpitin> Welcome
[4:48] <anew> 20% memory
[4:48] <anew> o_O
[4:48] <mattwj2002> good answer rpitin
[4:48] <rpitin> I have like 4 pi's that run different things, so I dont really have the issue with startx
[4:48] <anew> yeah i think i might need to get another one
[4:48] <mattwj2002> I want two more
[4:48] <mattwj2002> I only have one
[4:49] <rpitin> Actually, if you really like myphpadmin, why dont you run it on your laptop and administrate your database remotely?
[4:49] <anew> are they going to make them any bigger ?
[4:49] <anew> mmmmm
[4:49] <anew> well shit
[4:49] <anew> i guess i could do that also
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[4:49] <rpitin> you're all set now
[4:49] <anew> well normally i do it via ip...
[4:50] <anew> if my raspberry is on my local lan
[4:50] <rpitin> my micro webserver on the pi runs topless, so no monitor or anything, i just ssh to it
[4:50] <anew> how do i connect ?
[4:50] <rpitin> ssh pi@192.168.1.X -p 22
[4:50] <rpitin> usually
[4:50] <rpitin> replace ur IP in there
[4:50] <rpitin> for the pi
[4:50] <anew> so i put that into my browser ?
[4:51] <rpitin> depends on operating system
[4:51] <anew> i dont get it
[4:51] <rpitin> you can download putty if you're on windows
[4:51] <anew> yeah
[4:51] <rpitin> ssh is a command from shell
[4:51] <anew> but with all that
[4:51] <rpitin> and a protocol
[4:51] <anew> i will need vncviewer
[4:51] <anew> which is what i have now
[4:51] <rpitin> vnc is for vnc
[4:51] <anew> which = running iceweasel and viewing it on my windows machine
[4:51] <rpitin> putty is for ssh
[4:51] <anew> yeah
[4:51] <anew> i'm in cli right now with rpi
[4:51] <anew> but then from there ... how to open phpmyadmin
[4:52] <rpitin> ok, you would run administrate the database from your laptop, not the pi
[4:52] <pksato> http://localhost/phpmyadmin or http://ip/phpmyadmin
[4:52] <rpitin> ^
[4:52] <anew> ^ that's what i do locally
[4:52] <anew> but rpi isnt local ...
[4:53] <anew> rpi is not on
[4:53] <anew> or is it
[4:53] <pksato> or, where is instaled on webserver virtual pasth.
[4:53] <rpitin> then you can go to no-ip.org and setup a virtual DNS
[4:53] <pksato> path.
[4:53] <anew> meh
[4:53] <rpitin> if its on the WAN
[4:53] <rpitin> not the LAN
[4:53] <anew> so much work ... think i will just leavevnc installed
[4:54] <rpitin> its pretty quick once you've done it once
[4:54] <anew> i have to use noip ?
[4:54] <pksato> just use more keyboard over mouse. :)
[4:54] <rpitin> but back to the origional question, i wouldnt run startx on your microweb server
[4:54] <rpitin> i would admin it remotely
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[4:54] <anew> damnit
[4:54] <anew> so with my LAN
[4:55] <anew> well
[4:55] <anew> wait let me see
[4:55] <anew> lol i'm such an idiot
[4:55] <anew> it has it's own ip i can just connect to it
[4:55] <anew> man
[4:55] <anew> what a moron
[4:55] <pksato> anew: linux server are manganed by command line.
[4:56] <rpitin> yes, it will have its own IP
[4:56] <mattwj2002> hey guys
[4:56] <mattwj2002> did you hear about the $45 pi?
[4:56] <mattwj2002> http://arstechnica.com/business/2013/03/raspberry-pi-model-a-you-know-the-25-one-finally-on-sale-in-us/
[4:56] <rpitin> someone told me a new one was on its way
[4:56] <rpitin> other than the 512 b board
[4:57] <anew> how do u close startx now
[4:57] <pksato> close all programs using xserver.
[4:57] <rpitin> oh, I thought the 512 b board has been out for a while
[4:57] <rpitin> anew: logout
[4:57] <mattwj2002> http://amzn.com/B009SQQF9C
[4:58] <anew> if i log out my scripts stop running
[4:58] <mattwj2002> yeah I don't get it
[4:58] <anew> i just want to close desktop
[4:58] <rpitin> mattwj2002: ive been getting mine from here element14.com
[4:58] <mattwj2002> that looks like a regular b
[4:58] <pksato> anew: use logout option on some menu.
[4:58] <pksato> or, end session.
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[4:59] <pksato> or, ctrl+alt+bs
[5:00] <rpitin> mattwj2002: yeah all mine at 512's, i got them for $36 from element14 ages ago
[5:00] <anew> think i got it
[5:00] <anew> ok one last general question
[5:00] <anew> when i run top
[5:00] <anew> i can never see everything
[5:00] <rpitin> mattwj2002: and im in Australia, and we get everything last, so that news must be ages old.
[5:00] <anew> how can i view the entire thing? it always runs off the window
[5:00] <mattwj2002> sounds good rpitin
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[5:01] <mattwj2002> crap
[5:01] <mattwj2002> where did I get my first pi?
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[5:02] <mattwj2002> MCM Electronics I think
[5:03] <mattwj2002> this is what I was looking for
[5:03] <mattwj2002> http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14424
[5:03] <mattwj2002> I love this casae!
[5:03] <mattwj2002> *case
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[5:09] <rpitin> mattwj2002: i've got these cases (most recent post) http://rpitin.tumblr.com/
[5:09] <rpitin> they creamy
[5:09] <rpitin> cos pi needs cream
[5:09] <rpitin> or ice cream
[5:09] <mattwj2002> nice
[5:09] <mattwj2002> you are making me hungry
[5:09] <mattwj2002> :P
[5:09] <rpitin> one of them is a dud
[5:09] <rpitin> going to have to get it replaced
[5:09] <mattwj2002> bummer
[5:10] <rpitin> Yeah, but have a few backups so not a big deal, just going to be annoying dealing with the retailer
[5:10] <mattwj2002> I hear that
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[5:18] <bin_bash> hey so what do ya'll use for playing movies on raspbian/debian/arch?
[5:19] <mattwj2002> openelec
[5:19] <bin_bash> is that better than omxplayer
[5:19] <mattwj2002> that is what I am using
[5:19] <bin_bash> because omxplayer seems to suck
[5:19] <mattwj2002> it is a complete media solution
[5:19] <bin_bash> what distro are you using
[5:19] <sam_nazarko> www.raspbmc.com/download
[5:20] <mattwj2002> but it is not a destop
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[5:20] <mattwj2002> http://openelec.tv/
[5:20] <bin_bash> mattwj2002, that's a linux distro
[5:21] <bin_bash> I'm looking for a package
[5:21] <mattwj2002> oh
[5:21] <mattwj2002> no idea
[5:21] <mattwj2002> did you buy the codecs and install them?
[5:21] <bin_bash> what
[5:22] <mattwj2002> http://www.raspberrypi.com/
[5:22] <mattwj2002> oops
[5:22] <bin_bash> Why would I buy codecs
[5:22] <bin_bash> I just want a video player
[5:22] <mattwj2002> http://www.raspberrypi.com/license-keys/
[5:22] <bin_bash> I'm not going to buy license keys lol
[5:22] <mattwj2002> ok
[5:22] <bin_bash> I just want a video player
[5:22] <[Saint]> have fun decoding mpeg2 without it...
[5:23] <bin_bash> I don't see why I should have to buy anything
[5:23] <mbalho> bin_bash: what do you mean by 'video'
[5:23] <bin_bash> who uses mpeg2
[5:23] <mattwj2002> I do
[5:23] <bin_bash> mbalho, an alternative to omxplayer or vlc or mplayer
[5:23] <bin_bash> mp4, avi, flv
[5:24] <[Saint]> ask google.
[5:24] <mattwj2002> [Saint]: what does the vc-1 do again?
[5:24] <mattwj2002> is that windows media files?
[5:25] <mattwj2002> I have both
[5:25] <mbalho> bin_bash: have you tried avidemux
[5:25] <[Saint]> yeah - some proprietary ms format.
[5:25] <bin_bash> mbalho, no, what's it like?
[5:25] <mattwj2002> I just love how people are so cheap
[5:25] <mattwj2002> oh my god $5
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[5:25] <[Saint]> Yep.
[5:25] <bin_bash> mattwj2002, it's a $35 machine that runs a free OS. wtf do you expect?
[5:25] <bin_bash> Also, I never pay for anything other than hardware
[5:26] <bin_bash> Because it's always free somewhere
[5:26] <bin_bash> except for like cartridge games. like DS games
[5:27] <mattwj2002> I am guessing your time is less valuable than your money
[5:27] <fr0g911> heya bin_bash
[5:27] <mattwj2002> I don't have a ton of time to screw around for a couple of bucks
[5:27] <fr0g911> morning
[5:27] <bin_bash> hey fr0g911
[5:28] <fr0g911> what you getting into tonight bin
[5:28] <[Saint]> same thing as always, whining about media players :)
[5:28] <mattwj2002> it is like people that will spend an hour looking alternative phone app because they don't want to pay 99 cents
[5:28] <bin_bash> >whining
[5:28] <fr0g911> [Saint] or bin_bash you ever used a AV Powerline Wall-Plug Adapter
[5:28] <bin_bash> I'm just looking for an alternative to omxplayer
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[5:29] <bin_bash> fr0g911, no
[5:29] <fr0g911> im about to buy this thing for 49.32
[5:29] <mattwj2002> sorry I am off my soap box :)
[5:29] <fr0g911> to save me time of running cat5 line to a room
[5:29] <mattwj2002> fr0g911: I love your setup
[5:30] <fr0g911> witch one mattwj2002
[5:30] <fr0g911> lol
[5:30] <mattwj2002> the fact that you have that many pis
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[5:30] <mattwj2002> all over cat 5 even :D
[5:30] <fr0g911> yea i still have two appletvs
[5:30] <fr0g911> that are no longer in use
[5:30] <fr0g911> because the pi works better
[5:31] <mattwj2002> that is like my boxee box
[5:31] <fr0g911> and they even have the upgraded hd cards
[5:31] <mattwj2002> a pi works better than that for streaming off of mythtv
[5:31] <fr0g911> now i used mythtv one time awhile back with ubuntu
[5:32] <fr0g911> for it had so many bugs at that time
[5:32] <mattwj2002> it isn't perfect
[5:32] <mattwj2002> but I still think it is the best way to dump hd video for purpose use
[5:32] <fr0g911> i was trying to hard to get the atv remote to work with it
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[5:34] <mattwj2002> *personal use
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[5:36] <Helldesk> answering my own question from before: http://weewx.com/ seems like a decent start, and it even mentions the raspi
[5:39] <fr0g911> the radio in the bathroom is awesome mattwj2002 i just havent figured out away to make the light switch to put the pi on standby mode
[5:39] <mattwj2002> nice though fr0g911
[5:39] <fr0g911> it just shuts down the pi and i have had to redo the cards 2 times within 3months
[5:40] <mattwj2002> no good
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[5:41] <fr0g911> yea im trying to figure out if i should just figure out away of mute the sounds using some script
[5:42] <fr0g911> but i would need another board
[5:42] <fr0g911> more money
[5:43] <mattwj2002> fr0g911: are you talking about your music in the bathroom?
[5:44] <mattwj2002> why not a physical volume control or mute switch
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[5:51] <fr0g911> hmm well cause when you go into the bathroom you turn on the light switch do your stuff wash hands and leave
[5:51] <fr0g911> you dont wanna use some other switch
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[5:51] <fr0g911> lol
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[5:53] <fr0g911> hmmm i just had an idea
[5:53] <fr0g911> infrared
[5:53] <Viper7> fr0g911: just use an LDR ?
[5:54] <fr0g911> when you walk into the rest room
[5:54] <fr0g911> LDR ?
[5:54] <Viper7> photodiode?
[5:54] <Viper7> light dependant resistor
[5:55] <fr0g911> didnt think of that
[5:56] <fr0g911> but i want it to send a mute audio command
[5:56] <Viper7> well if you build a simple circuit using one that outputs over 2V with the lights on, and under 1V with the lights off (or vice-versa), you can connect it directly to a GPIO pin and do the rest in software
[5:57] <mattwj2002> hi guys
[5:57] <mattwj2002> how can you tell how fast your pi is working at?
[5:57] <fr0g911> very good idea Viper
[5:57] <mattwj2002> aka verify an overclock?
[5:58] <fr0g911> thanks i will give it ago
[5:58] <Viper7> mattwj2002: cat /proc/cpuinfo ?
[5:58] <mattwj2002> I tried that
[5:58] <mattwj2002> it says 700 Mhz
[5:58] <fr0g911> /proc/cpuinfo
[5:58] <mattwj2002> but I configured it for 900
[5:58] <mattwj2002> is that the right place to look?
[5:59] <fr0g911> BogoMIPS : 835.58
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[5:59] <fr0g911> i use that settings works perfect for 1080p
[6:00] <mattwj2002> that is why I was wondering
[6:00] <fr0g911> whats in your config
[6:00] <mattwj2002> 1080p is breaking up again
[6:00] <mattwj2002> the 900 Mhz stuff
[6:01] <mattwj2002> does it need to be forced?
[6:02] <mattwj2002> BogoMIPS : 697.95
[6:03] <fr0g911> force_turbo=1
[6:03] <mattwj2002> is that safe?
[6:03] <mattwj2002> other peeps?
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[6:03] <ParkerR> force_turbo forces all the settings to max
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[6:04] <ParkerR> Not great if you have an overclock set
[6:04] <ParkerR> Easy way to corrupt your SD card
[6:04] <fr0g911> arm_freq=840
[6:04] <fr0g911> core_freq=350
[6:04] <fr0g911> gpu_freq=253
[6:04] <fr0g911> force_turbo=1
[6:04] <fr0g911> disable_overscan=1
[6:04] <fr0g911> gpu_mem=128
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[6:04] <fr0g911> what i use
[6:04] <mattwj2002> ParkerR: I thought it just forced it to overclock
[6:04] <mattwj2002> no to the max
[6:04] <fr0g911> no corrupt yet
[6:05] <ParkerR> mattwj2002, it forces it to stay at 840 frequency
[6:05] <fr0g911> used theses settings since i've had the pi's
[6:05] <ParkerR> In his case
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[6:05] <ParkerR> ondemand exista for a reason
[6:05] <mattwj2002> that is fine by me
[6:05] <ParkerR> *exists
[6:06] <mattwj2002> hmm
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[6:06] <mattwj2002> why am I at 700 Mhz only?
[6:06] <fr0g911> what does your config.txt report
[6:06] <ParkerR> ondemand is what is used if force_turbo is 0
[6:06] <fr0g911> /boot/config.txt
[6:06] <ParkerR> So it stays at 700 ish and only goes up to your setting when needed
[6:06] <mattwj2002> you want me to pastebin it?
[6:07] <fr0g911> yeah why not
[6:07] <fr0g911> your using the rev b right i forgot
[6:08] <ParkerR> Sadly my Pi has been neglected
[6:08] <mattwj2002> oh I might have found something
[6:08] <mattwj2002> one second
[6:08] <fr0g911> whats wrong with your little pi ParkerR
[6:09] <ParkerR> fr0g911, Nothing. I've just been playing with the Acer Chromebook
[6:09] <ParkerR> The Pis been sitting on the shelf
[6:09] <fr0g911> Acer Chromebook
[6:09] <fr0g911> what be that
[6:09] <ParkerR> Acer C7
[6:09] <mattwj2002> nope that is nothing
[6:09] <ParkerR> $199 netbook thats actually pretty decent
[6:10] <fr0g911> just saw it
[6:10] <fr0g911> hmmm
[6:10] <ParkerR> Default ChromeOS but you can install Ubuntu
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[6:10] <fr0g911> 4hours battery
[6:10] <fr0g911> i dont like that
[6:10] <fr0g911> Dual band Wi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n and 10/100/Gigabit Ethernet
[6:10] <ParkerR> For what it is Im surpsied it ges that much
[6:11] <ParkerR> *gets
[6:11] <fr0g911> dual?
[6:11] <ParkerR> I assume 2.4 and 5ghz
[6:11] <fr0g911> yeah
[6:11] <fr0g911> does have htmi
[6:11] <ParkerR> And a Celeron Dual core (1.1ghz I think)
[6:11] <fr0g911> so 2.2
[6:11] <fr0g911> overclock?
[6:12] <ParkerR> Havent tried
[6:12] <ParkerR> Been great at stock
[6:12] <fr0g911> video card?
[6:12] <ParkerR> Intel HD
[6:12] <ParkerR> Unsure of exact model
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[6:13] <fr0g911> hard drive?
[6:13] <ParkerR> Works great for many games, and since its an INtel CPU, runs Steam too
[6:13] <ParkerR> 320gb
[6:13] <mattwj2002> when does the oveclock cut in?
[6:13] <fr0g911> i see 100gb google drive but heh that is free anyway
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[6:14] <fr0g911> thats not bad at all ParkerR i was looking for a really cheap laptop for my company just to setup ipcams and connect to them been using an ipad 1 for it
[6:15] <fr0g911> mattwj2002 should start when you startup the pi
[6:15] <fr0g911> mine does
[6:15] <fr0g911> if you edited the file you will have to restart
[6:15] <mattwj2002> fr0g911: the cpuinfo never goes to even 700
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[6:16] <fr0g911> what distro you using
[6:16] <ParkerR> fr0g911, Here's the inxi output http://withg.org/parkerlreed/inxi.txt
[6:16] <mattwj2002> openelec
[6:17] <ParkerR> Only catch is at the moment you are locked to one kernel. It uses a 64bit ChromeOS kernel to boot because Google locks down the BIOS
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[6:17] <mattwj2002> it might be my connection on the mythtv box
[6:17] <mattwj2002> the tuners
[6:17] <mattwj2002> I should go to bed
[6:17] <mattwj2002> good night all
[6:17] <mattwj2002> :)
[6:17] <yeik> g'night
[6:18] <fr0g911> night
[6:18] <mattwj2002> good night yeik and fr0g911
[6:18] <mattwj2002> :)
[6:18] <fr0g911> its not bad ParkerR
[6:18] <mattwj2002> good night everyone else
[6:18] <mattwj2002> :)
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[6:18] <fr0g911> im not going to bed
[6:18] <fr0g911> lol
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[6:18] <fr0g911> if the price goes to 130
[6:18] <fr0g911> i will buy one
[6:18] <fr0g911> lol
[6:19] <ParkerR> Oh also has 2gb and extra RAM slot
[6:19] <ParkerR> And the stock 2gb can be swapped out too
[6:19] <fr0g911> whats its max
[6:19] <fr0g911> 4?
[6:19] <ParkerR> Ive heard of people doing an 8gb and the stock 2gb
[6:20] <ParkerR> I think it can do more. Dont have any ram around to test
[6:20] <fr0g911> so your using ubuntu
[6:20] <fr0g911> you try the 3d cube and stuff
[6:20] <ParkerR> Currently Ubuntu, Debian 6, and Arch are the only "easily" installable distros
[6:20] <fr0g911> all 3dfx
[6:21] <ParkerR> Naah. I slimmed down to an openbox install
[6:21] <fr0g911> awww i see
[6:21] <fr0g911> well seems like its worth the money
[6:22] <fr0g911> one battery pack
[6:22] <fr0g911> or two
[6:22] <ParkerR> Hopefully there will be a third party bios to allow USB drive booting or the such
[6:22] <ParkerR> The CR-48 (original chromebook) already has a nice BIOS replacemnt
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[6:22] <ParkerR> There is an extended battery
[6:23] <ParkerR> I heard like 6 hours from that
[6:23] <yeik> ParkerR, seems unlikely, although there are ways to boot from the usb, just have to have an sd card first
[6:23] <ParkerR> Well technically it can be done from SD card or USB drive but not like the normal USB boot you think of on a normal laptop
[6:23] <yeik> wait, nvm your talking about chromebook
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[6:24] <ParkerR> http://chromeos-cr48.blogspot.com/2012/12/so-you-want-chrubuntu-on-external-drive.html
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[6:25] <yeik> well, i think i mostly have my i2c chip functioning how i want
[6:25] <yeik> now just have to learn how to read individual pins
[6:28] <lkthomas> guys, I want to start "screen" on start up
[6:28] <lkthomas> what should I do ? insert command on rc.local does not help
[6:30] <fr0g911> brb
[6:30] <fr0g911> gotta get some food in me
[6:30] <fr0g911> vegetarian btw
[6:32] <ParkerR> fr0g911, Currently running Ubuntu 12.10 with openbox. Done a bit of tweaking and setup to get it how I like http://i.minus.com/iuV5fey0elNjg.png
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[6:48] <fr0g911> looks really sweet parker
[6:48] <fr0g911> nice setup
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[6:53] <ParkerR> fr0g911, Thanks
[6:53] <fr0g911> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYx-eZXwbu0
[6:54] <fr0g911> mine many years ago
[6:54] <fr0g911> well almost two years ago
[6:54] <fr0g911> lol
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[7:22] <IalexI> morning
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[7:27] <ParkerR> fr0g911, "This video contains content from WMG, who has blocked it on copyright grounds."
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[7:35] <xrosnight> how to use my Android phone be the camera on linux?
[7:36] <fr0g911> lol damn ParkerR didnt notice that
[7:37] <fr0g911> oops darn**
[7:37] <rpitin> xrosnight, stream it then view via browser?
[7:38] <xrosnight> rpitin: in anyway i want to record video for youtube for some pi experiments
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[7:58] <rpitin> xrosnight, record on the local system or remotely?
[7:58] <xrosnight> rpitin: store it on my computer
[7:59] <Jck_true> Get a video recorder for your phone?
[7:59] <Jck_true> Send the file to your computer afterwards?
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[8:08] <xrosnight> Jck_true: i hope it's a real-time recording
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[8:12] <Jck_true> xrosnight: No idea - All I own is a 5 year old iPod Touch
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[8:42] <flufmnstr> xrosnight theres an app that turns your phone into an IP camera
[8:42] <flufmnstr> though ive never gotten it to work on windows....
[8:42] <flufmnstr> you can view it via a web browser just fine though
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[9:57] <wombledom> hi, why does setting the vm.min_free_kbytes to a higher value prevent freezing even when the memory never goes lower than 200mb to begin with?
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[9:59] <FR^2> Hmm. I'd like to "read" my (analogue) electricity meter, i.e. count the number of rotations of the meter's wheel.. Any pointers on how to achieve that using a raspberry pi?
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[10:06] <Jck_true> OCR of the digits maybe?
[10:06] <Jck_true> FR^2: Is it a modern meter? Maybe it supports Zigbee?
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[10:10] <NetBat> morning morning to all fellow Pi pickers.
[10:11] <wombledom> goodmorning
[10:11] <NetBat> And how are we on this glorious April morning?
[10:11] <Helldesk> try to search for solutions other people have done to detect the colour stripe on the turning wheel of the meter
[10:11] <jelly1> wombledom: cause the ram is shared on gpu/mem?
[10:12] <jelly1> btw why would you even do that
[10:12] <jelly1> we got an OOM killer
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[10:12] <wombledom> oom killer only kills when the memory gets so low
[10:12] <NetBat> OOM, what's OOM people?
[10:13] <jelly1> wombledom: nowai
[10:13] <wombledom> I didn't know if the kernel has it's own memory that is separate from the rest, and it runs out if there's a lot of IO
[10:13] <jelly1> wombledom: no the kernel doesn't have it's own memory
[10:14] <jelly1> I mean isn't the memory for the gpu and the cpu shareD?
[10:14] <wombledom> yeah, but I have most of it not for gpu
[10:15] <wombledom> I just don't know why increasing the minimum free memory fixes freezing even though I'm nowhere near running out
[10:15] <Jck_true> Freezing? USB stacks lock ups?
[10:16] <wombledom> yeah
[10:16] <Jck_true> I've found that none of the "config.txt" tricks on the forum works
[10:17] <Jck_true> Make sure you're up to date - and make sure your power is stable
[10:17] <Jck_true> Everything else seems to be 12 year old kids copy pasting things
[10:19] <wombledom> Jck_true, did you get it fixed?
[10:19] <Jck_true> Recent firmware fixed it for me
[10:20] <Jck_true> Novemberish
[10:21] <Jck_true> (Mind you I don't use any USB device on that pi - Only lan)
[10:22] <FR^2> Jck_true: No, it's an analogue model with a Ferraris wheel
[10:22] <wombledom> I'm using a wifi dongle
[10:22] <wombledom> and a usb hard disk
[10:22] <wombledom> I find that lan doesn't cause freezing and isn't heavy on resources
[10:22] <FR^2> There are several ideas... putting a webcam in front of the counter and using ocr in order to read the value, the other one is counting the rotation of that Ferraris wheel ;)
[10:24] <FR^2> I could manage to use a infrared diode and a phototransistor using a schmitt-trigger... But how would I use the raspberry pi to count the highs? Primitive approach would be to poll a gpio pin e.g. ten times per second or such... not quite ingenious ;)
[10:25] <jelly1> wombledom: then use lan ;)
[10:25] <Jck_true> FR^2: Hmm the meter itself allready measures the turns - Maybe a HAL sensor?
[10:25] <Jck_true> FR^2: Interrupt on the pin
[10:25] <Hoerie> wasn't there a discussion earlier about heavy usb use leading to the kernel memory filling up or something like that?
[10:25] <wombledom> jelly1, I only have access to wifi, but I got a wifi to lan converter
[10:26] <wombledom> now i'm waiting for it
[10:26] <FR^2> Jck_true: Ah, so that is not an issue, no need to use cpu intensive polling?
[10:26] <Jck_true> Hoerie: There's a few bugs in the USB stack
[10:26] <FR^2> How would I go about using a HAL sensor with that? I can't open the case of the power meter.
[10:27] <Jck_true> FR^2: https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/functions/
[10:27] <Jck_true> FR^2: Ducttape it to the front of the case - Maybe?
[10:30] <FR^2> Jck_true: Yes, sure. And the wheel has a marker at one place, so the change of current the phototransistor lets through should be measurable and convertible to a TTL impulse, no worries :)
[10:30] <FR^2> Jck_true: How did you think about a HAL sensor for measurement?
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[10:31] <FR^2> I didn't know there is an interrupt handling for the GPIO pins. Neat!! :))
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[10:34] <D4CH_RPi> I got mine yesterday, it's really awesome :D
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[10:34] <D4CH_RPi> best invention evah!
[10:34] <D4CH_RPi> No more needing to pay for a VPS in a far away server room. Now it's in my living room :D
[10:35] <FR^2> D4CH_RPi: Welcome to the club ;)
[10:36] <D4CH_RPi> I already setup Irssi, lighttpd, VPN
[10:36] <D4CH_RPi> :D
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[10:36] <D4CH_RPi> And on the plus side, I keep learning more linux
[10:36] <D4CH_RPi> always a good thing
[10:36] <D4CH_RPi> even though I have to google every single command
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[10:38] <Jck_true> FR^2: I figured the plate is magnetic somehow - and that's how it rotates
[10:39] <NetBat> erm, sorry to repeat myself, but what is "OOM", folks?
[10:39] <Jck_true> NetBat: Out Of Memory
[10:39] <NetBat> Jck_true: Ah, yes, thank you.
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[10:40] <Jck_true> FR^2: Okay - That idea won't work - "The electromechanical induction meter operates by counting the revolutions of a non-magnetic, but electrically conductive, metal disc which is made to rotate at a speed proportional to the power passing through the meter."
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[10:41] <FR^2> Jck_true: Yes, it's really "old school" ;)
[10:42] <FR^2> Jck_true: Newer ones even have some kind of serial infrared interface
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[10:42] <Jck_true> FR^2: And even newer ones is read wirelessly as they just drive a truck by...
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[10:49] <jelly1> time to try wayland/weston on the pi right :P
[10:49] <jelly1> http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/wayland-devel/2013-April/008555.html
[10:49] <FR^2> Jck_true: Probably I could get a highly sophisticated new one, but... I don't want others to know when I'm at home, when my TV is on, when my PC is on, when the washing machine is running... ;)
[10:50] <Jck_true> FR^2: And whatever setup you come up with - Make sure it can be removed for when the Utility guys comes around to inspect it :)
[10:51] <FR^2> Jck_true: Hehe, sure, sure. ;)
[10:51] <Hoerie> couldn't you hook up a cam to the pi, segment the spinning disk and detect the changes induced by the colouring of the disk?
[10:51] <FR^2> Jck_true: In the last five years, nobody came around, I always enter the counter values at their website once a year.
[10:51] <Jck_true> FR^2: I suppose you could buy an industrial watt meter and have an electrician install it after ther meter...
[10:52] <FR^2> Hoerie: In case of using a webcam, I'd try and use ocr on the counter ;)
[10:52] <Jck_true> But that is pretty much cheating :D
[10:52] <Hoerie> the counter generally updates verrrry slowly
[10:52] <FR^2> Jck_true: That is a thing that I could do myself.
[10:52] <FR^2> Hoerie: yes, indeed, therefore tracking that Ferraris wheel would allow more accurate measurement.
[10:52] <Hoerie> if you want to detect changes due to turning appliances on or off, the disk will give you a quicker result
[10:53] <FR^2> Hmm. Using visible light means I'd have to place a light source near the power meter...
[10:54] <Jck_true> Or use IR?
[10:54] <Hoerie> most webcams handle IR if you take of the filter , right?
[10:54] <Jck_true> I dunno - Good luck man :D
[10:54] <Hoerie> *off
[10:55] <Jck_true> Hoerie: Indeed :) - It's a pretty cool effect too :)
[10:55] <SpeedEvil> FR^2: hook a white led up to USB
[10:55] <SpeedEvil> works five
[10:55] <SpeedEvil> fine
[10:56] <Hoerie> maybe the leds on the pi itself would be enough light ;-)
[10:56] <FR^2> SpeedEvil: And when I turn on the lights, reading will cease? ^^
[10:56] <SpeedEvil> FR^2: did this with my last meter.
[10:56] <FR^2> okay. :)
[10:56] <SpeedEvil> FR^2: is your metre in the open?
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[10:58] <SpeedEvil> fix the camera firmly. get the several pixels in a line that are the visible radius of the disc. average all those value s, now threshold.
[10:59] <SpeedEvil> getting the right angle was critical for me.
[11:02] <mgottschlag> ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
[11:02] <mgottschlag> ,,
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[11:03] <SpeedEvil> %
[11:03] <Jck_true> @@@
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[11:06] <azeam> what's the current situation with the analog popping issue (not using the analog output myself), has it been fixed in the latest firmware in the repositories or do you need to upgrade with rpi-update?
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[11:12] <D4CH_RPi> sudo raspi-config
[11:12] <D4CH_RPi> fack
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[11:14] <JohannesG> Lol
[11:14] <Undertasker> Hi. Has anybody tried minidvblinux?
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[11:15] <Triffid_Hunter> azeam: there's a firmware update which solves it for me
[11:17] <azeam> Triffid_Hunter: ok, is it in the main repositories (enough to do apt-get upgrade) or do you need a more unstable firmware?
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[11:17] <Triffid_Hunter> azeam: umm there's a rasbpi-update script floating around somewhere that pulls it from a git repository
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[11:17] <azeam> Triffid_Hunter: ok, thanks
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[11:33] <D4CH_RPi> how do i kill the GUI from terminal?
[11:33] <D4CH_RPi> I've already disabled it from boot, but I don't want to reboot :P
[11:35] <jelly1> kill
[11:36] <jelly1> D4CH_RPi: could try pkill X
[11:36] <Tachyon`> /etc/init.d/gdm stop? assuming it uses such a thing
[11:36] <kaste> killall X :P
[11:37] <D4CH_RPi> I did pkill X, that did something :P
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[12:02] <vincent_c> Tachyon`: lightdm is used by default, not gdm3
[12:02] * cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccy_RegeaneWolf
[12:02] <vincent_c> so /etc/init.d/lightdm stop is what you want
[12:03] <vincent_c> raspi-config just runs "update-rc.d lightdm disable" afaik if you choose to disable booting into X
[12:03] * jelly1 thinks raspi-config is useless
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[12:04] <vincent_c> I do too, but that's only because I'm familiar with Debian
[12:04] <vincent_c> I can see how raspi-config is nice for people who are new to linux
[12:04] <jelly1> vincent_c: it's not
[12:04] <jelly1> vincent_c: they should learn to read the docs
[12:04] * linuxstb thinks raspi-config is useful, for the Pi-specific stuff
[12:04] <jelly1> then when they get a real linux machine they are able to use the knowledge
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[12:05] <vincent_c> I don't think telling people to rtfm is the best way to promote the pi
[12:05] * vincent_c shrugs
[12:05] <linuxstb> What, like setting GPU RAM size, or resizing their root partition using the Raspbian script? ;)
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[12:05] <jelly1> vincent_c: then the docs should be nicer ;)
[12:06] <BlueMint> I just purchased a Pi. Havn't got it yet, but what can i read so I understand it better when I get it?
[12:06] <jelly1> you can try it with qemu ;)
[12:06] <ShiftPlusOne> BlueDreams, http://elinux.org/RPi_Hub
[12:07] <BlueMint> thanks
[12:07] <linuxstb> Plus http://www.raspberrypi.org of course (especially the forums)
[12:07] <ShiftPlusOne> Yay, they finally fixed the "Raspberry Pi Wiki Council" nonsense on the wiki =D
[12:08] <jelly1> BlueMint: go run it already http://xecdesign.com/qemu-emulating-raspberry-pi-the-easy-way/ ;)
[12:08] <BlueMint> And what is the best OS for this?
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[12:08] <jelly1> BlueMint: there is no best in linux
[12:08] <jelly1> Just use what 'suits' you best
[12:08] <BlueMint> What is the best for user friendliness. Can this run Ubunutu?
[12:09] <ShiftPlusOne> BlueDreams, raspbian is recommended
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[12:09] <BlueMint> Thanks :P
[12:09] <BlueMint> ShiftPlusOne, also, you keep pinging the wrong dude. hehe
[12:09] <ShiftPlusOne> oh, lol
[12:09] <ShiftPlusOne> >_<
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[12:16] <Tachyon`> ubuntu is just debian with an evil window manager these days anyway
[12:17] <Tachyon`> xubuntu is what I tend to use now, due to unity
[12:17] <Tachyon`> well, actually debian is what I tend to use but xubuntu is what I recommend
[12:17] * ShiftPlusOne is still using Mint
[12:17] <neilr> Of course, you don't *have* to use linux. Just sayin'
[12:17] <Tachyon`> since even debian is too hard for most people new to linux
[12:17] <Tachyon`> you don't /have/ to but it's highly recommended
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[12:18] <ShiftPlusOne> neilr, are you one of those RISCOS folks? D=
[12:18] <vincent_c> aside from the installer, debian isn't really any harder to use than ubuntu
[12:18] <neilr> Yup
[12:18] <Tachyon`> vincent_c: it is when it decides not to support hardware that ubuntu supports out of the box
[12:18] <Tachyon`> something it does with depressing regularity
[12:18] <vincent_c> install all firmware-* packages and you're good
[12:19] <Tachyon`> yes, that works for some things, some of the time, lol
[12:19] <Tachyon`> networking mostly
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[12:19] <Tachyon`> risc os is pretty nice, it' avialble for my pandora now too
[12:19] * Tachyon` has been using it since the A3000 (acorn, not amiga)
[12:20] <Tachyon`> it's certainly a lot better than it was then
[12:21] <neilr> RISC OS works nicely on the pi. Certainly faster than Raspbian with LXDE or XFCE. But, there's still a lot you can't do with it that you can with linux.
[12:22] <Tachyon`> a surprisingly large amount of linux/x software will run on risc os now
[12:22] <Tachyon`> seems a lot of the libraries have been ported
[12:23] <Tachyon`> would require rebuilding of course but other than that...
[12:23] <Tachyon`> and yeah, risc os was always fast
[12:23] <Tachyon`> foryears I resisted moving from archimedes to PC
[12:23] <Tachyon`> but eventually had to give in
[12:25] <Tachyon`> always said arm would win the day, it has, but not the way I thought it would, lol, was expecting it in PCs, not everything but
[12:25] <neilr> I like it - it has what I need in a desktop, it boots quickly (that said, I've not had to reboot in weeks now), and I like BBC BASIC
[12:26] <neilr> Downside: No wifi support yet, and browser choice is pretty slim
[12:26] <Tachyon`> well, I started on spectrum and BBC basic as a kid, learning 6502 was a lot easier with teh assembler right there, in ROM, and not a pathetic excuse for one in a monitor either, a proper multipass assembler you could do real work with.
[12:26] <Tachyon`> speaking of that, I really need to unbury the BBC and finish the ROM I was working on, lol
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[12:27] <Tachyon`> usual problem, dozens of computers, 1 bedroom flat
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[12:29] <wombledom> Hi
[12:29] <neilr> I rationalised my collection down to two. A pi running RISC OS for desktop and fiddling with, and a Raspbian pi as a headless server.
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[12:31] <wombledom> how hard is it to bitbang a mini-pci interface using the gpio pins, or using an i2c gpio chip for more pins to use for bitbanging? does the mini-pci have a set speed or can I work with it at whatever speed I want?
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[12:33] <FR^2> SpeedEvil: "metre in the open"? I don't understand what you mean... I can't open it, it's sealed. It's at home in the flat's corridor
[12:36] <BlueMint> Would a class 10 SD card work for the RPi?
[12:36] <ShiftPlusOne> BlueMint, yes
[12:36] <ShiftPlusOne> woo... got the right guy this time
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[12:37] * BlueMint applauds
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[12:38] <ShiftPlusOne> BlueMint, you may want to check the verified sd card article on elinux though.
[12:39] <BlueMint> ShiftPlusOne, sweeet, it's SDHC
[12:40] <D4CH_RPi> What kinds of projects are you guys using your RPi for?
[12:41] <BlueMint> To run my arduino :P
[12:41] <Fhl> Hi, I have a problem with a c program that I'm writing. It uses fork() to play wave files through aplay. Sometimes it works, but it crashes with a "C is at mutex_lock_interruptible" problem. It altso says comm: aplay and "R is at bcm2835_audio_set_ctls_chan". I will write down the whole error in a pastebin. Any thoughts? Thank you :)
[12:41] <D4CH_RPi> What does your arduino do?
[12:42] <FR^2> D4CH_RPi: Tracking the analogue power meter; Webcam; xbmc; Temperature measurement all around the flat
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[12:43] <D4CH_RPi> Webcam?
[12:43] <BlueMint> D4CH_RPi, the RPi sends it serial data to turn on and read diffferent things. For example, it controls sound reactive LEDs that are built into my left and right speakers. It read a thermometre in my fridge, it turns on my computer when I send it a message using my phone. And my WIP is my automated time blinds
[12:43] <D4CH_RPi> Niiice
[12:43] <neilr> D4CH_RPi: monitoring my drinks mat to tell me when my tea is going cold.
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[12:46] <Fhl> Here it is. http://pastebin.com/0kq5VwLj
[12:47] <D4CH_RPi> Cool :)
[12:48] <ShiftPlusOne> My pi is being neglected, though I would like to use it to learn a bit more about bare metal programming.
[12:48] <ShiftPlusOne> I am currently working with an STM32 board, but it comes with lots of libs to make things easy. Would be nice to have to write those myself (just once).
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[12:49] <Fhl> Hi, I/join #raspien
[12:49] <Fhl> sorry
[12:50] <ShiftPlusOne> heh
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[12:50] <wombledom> raspien?
[12:51] <wombledom> is this a fork of raspbian?
[12:51] <ShiftPlusOne> I assumed it was a multiple fail and he meant raspbian
[12:51] <Davespice> lol
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[12:57] <D4CH_RPi> I wanted to google something. Opened google and then I had forgotten what I wanted to google.
[12:57] <D4CH_RPi> Urgh
[12:57] <azeam> D4CH_RPi: try googling it
[12:58] <D4CH_RPi> hah
[12:58] <D4CH_RPi> "What did I want to google"
[12:58] <buzzsaw> this might remind you D4CH_RPi http://lmgtfy.com/?q=lmgtfy
[12:59] <D4CH_RPi> My friend actually google this way. "Tell me how to XYZ"
[12:59] <ShiftPlusOne> >.>
[12:59] <ShiftPlusOne> http://lmbtfy.com/?q=lmgtfy
[12:59] <ShiftPlusOne> <.<
[12:59] <BCMM> D4CH_RPi: have a script in your path such that you can do "<alt-f2> gg thing i want to google <enter>"
[12:59] <BCMM> this is how i avoid forgetting things while the browser is starting
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[12:59] <buzzsaw> BCMM: you should get a faster browser...
[12:59] <BCMM> (well actually kde's krunner has that feature built-in, but that's what i did before)
[13:00] <buzzsaw> my computer is from 2007 and I click on the icon and it loads ;-)
[13:00] <BCMM> buzzsaw: you don't know how fast i forget stuff :)
[13:00] <ShiftPlusOne> Doesn't everyone leave a browser running with 50 tabs open all the time anyway?
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[13:00] <buzzsaw> ShiftPlusOne: my manager was complaning of a slow computer
[13:01] <buzzsaw> so in the spirity of windows IT I told him to restart it...
[13:01] <buzzsaw> took for ever for all his email to close, not sure but I think he had every email he received opened from the last time he restarted..
[13:01] <BCMM> buzzsaw: this is dangerous
[13:01] <ShiftPlusOne> jesus
[13:01] <BCMM> i have had somebody's computer "break" due to a restart
[13:02] <BCMM> macos doesn't make it very clear whether a program
[13:02] <BCMM> is open or not (sorry for the extra enter)
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[13:02] <BCMM> so when the mac got restarted for the first time in months, it asked for a password for her email account
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[13:02] * buzzsaw is on osx and does not know what BCMM is talking about
[13:02] <BCMM> (yes, the email client had been running for months)
[13:03] <BCMM> buzzsaw: ok, pretend you have no idea how osx works and have never noticed the little blue marker that shows that a program with no windows open is running
[13:03] <buzzsaw> BCMM: ctrl+w closes the window ctrl+x closes the program
[13:03] <buzzsaw> its kind of an amazing thing :-)
[13:03] <BCMM> i am not talking about the sort of person who knows what a keyboard shortcut is :)
[13:04] <Fhl> Hi, I'm coding a simple c program that uses fork and execv to play waves through aplay. But the whole unit is crashing with this error: http://pastebin.com/0kq5VwLj. What am I doing wrong?
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[13:08] <Fhl> Here is the code http://pastebin.com/wL5Xxva9
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[13:12] <azeam> FhL: does aplay work when you just run it in a terminal?
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[13:16] <IalexI> Does somebody have experience with overclocking? I tried the turbo mode (1 GHz/600 MHz) and indeed had corruption on the sd card (though it was mounted readonly). Are the other modes safe (currently I run "High")?
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[13:23] <MrTrick> an article suggests so, but confirming - there's no danger to an RPi when interfacing to 5V i2c slaves?
[13:23] <MrTrick> (just the risk that the 3.3V from the pullups won't be interpreted correctly by the slave)
[13:24] <mgottschlag> there are rare reports of devices driving the bus high to increase bus speed
[13:25] <MrTrick> I see. Would there be some kind of voltage clamp on there?
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[13:26] <Fhl> azeam: yes, it works perfectly. And also, it works some times but then suddenly crashes.
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[13:45] <BlueMint> can Raspbian ?wheezy? install the arduino IDE?
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[13:52] <Tachyon`> I believe so,there's instructions with the gertboardfor doing exactlytaht
[13:52] <azeam> IalexI: I'm using the following settings and it's been very stable on my system: arm_freq=950, core_freq=500, sdram_freq=500, over_voltage=2
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[13:53] <azeam> IalexI: turbo mode disabled
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[14:09] <BlueMint> Anyone here use their RPi as a BNC?
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[14:10] <jelly1> BlueMint: yes znc
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[14:11] <BlueMint> jelly1, thanks :P
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[14:12] <D4CH_RPi> BNC? I just set up irssi and ssh+screen into it, is that a BNC?
[14:13] <jelly1> bnc is a bouncer
[14:13] <jelly1> D4CH_RPi: not the same as a bouncer :P
[14:13] <jelly1> irrsi
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[14:16] <ShiftPlusOne> Why do people use those?
[14:16] <ShiftPlusOne> (Actual question, not asking in a "what's the matter with you people!?" sort of way)
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[14:17] <wooy> ShiftPlusOne: not every irc client is cli based
[14:18] <ShiftPlusOne> 'course
[14:18] <azeam> ShiftPlusOne: I use it because it stays logged in to all channels I want to be in and saves logs that I can read when I log in
[14:18] <azeam> so I can see what's been going on while I've been sleeping ;)
[14:19] <wooy> azeam: irssi+screen can do that
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[14:19] <ShiftPlusOne> And you can get into the same 'session' from multiple devices?
[14:19] <ShiftPlusOne> (without having different nicks)
[14:20] <azeam> ShiftPlusOne: yes, using both andchat on my phone and xchat on my laptop
[14:20] <ShiftPlusOne> ah ok
[14:20] <ShiftPlusOne> might install znc on the vps and give it a go later then.
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[14:25] <azeam> anyone happen to know of some cue splitter software for flac (for linux or wine) that can handle multiple directories?
[14:26] <IalexI> azeam, what does turbo mode disabled actually mean?
[14:27] <azeam> IalexI: that I don't have it enabled
[14:27] <D4CH_RPi> but.. what does turbo mode .. ACTUALLY mean?
[14:27] <ShiftPlusOne> http://elinux.org/RPiconfig
[14:27] <IalexI> azeam, okay, wrong question.. what does turbo mode mean?
[14:27] <D4CH_RPi> Aaaaactually
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[14:29] <ShiftPlusOne> and... http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/2008
[14:30] <azeam> I _think_ turbo mode is just some preset settings for the same options that you can set manually in the config.txt, don't know what they are exactly
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[14:32] <azeam> from one of the comments in the post ShiftPlusOne linked to: Turbo? ?1000MHz ARM, 500MHz core, 500MHz SDRAM, 6 overvolt
[14:32] <BlueMint> Any aussies here buy off element14?
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[14:35] <Tachyon`> 6 overvolt will void your warranty
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[14:35] <Tachyon`> they've put a fuse in there so they can tell
[14:38] <azeam> in that case the comment I pasted wasn't correct, as turbo mode shouldn't void the warranty
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[14:39] <Tachyon`> 2 overvolt doesn't, 6 does
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[14:40] <lkthomas> guys, can you dasy chain multiple Pi via USB port ?
[14:41] <Undertasker> in terms of power or data connection?
[14:41] <lkthomas> power
[14:41] <Undertasker> Forget it
[14:41] <lkthomas> LOL
[14:41] <Matt> quite :)
[14:42] <Matt> the USB ports on the pi can't push much current at all
[14:42] <lkthomas> right
[14:42] <Undertasker> Buy a hub, or grab a soldering iron and solder several USb cables to one big power supply
[14:42] * Matt nods
[14:43] <seba-> just power the r.pi from GPIO ports
[14:43] <lkthomas> so what are you guys use Pi for
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[14:43] <seba-> that way you can deliver more current
[14:43] <seba-> :)
[14:43] <seba-> *pins
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[14:44] <Undertasker> I'm just testing Minidvblinux for raspi, but I don't have a monitor at hand, and the image doesn't seem to connect to the net via dhcp automatically
[14:45] <Undertasker> I had hoped that I would come with a running sshd
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[14:45] <lkthomas> I still don't understand why people would connect Pi with arduino
[14:45] <Undertasker> Why not?
[14:46] <lkthomas> why not use GPIO instead
[14:46] <Undertasker> Because the arduino has a fast, realtime capable risc micro?
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[14:47] <Undertasker> You would have to use the raspi with native code to do that.
[14:47] <Undertasker> BTW: Is there a realtime solution for the raspi? RTAI or so?
[14:48] <Tachyon`> yeah, no realtime kernel on the pi
[14:48] <Tachyon`> so an AVR can be a help
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[14:50] <Undertasker> If you want a sort of Arduino with more bang, look for pcduino
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[14:51] <IalexI> is there an alternative to the pi with gigabit ethernet and sata ports?
[14:51] <Undertasker> sata: Yes, cubieboard
[14:51] <ripzay> you'd be looking at miniITX boards for that IalexI
[14:52] <Undertasker> gb ethernet, only intel boards I think
[14:52] <IalexI> Undertasker, yes, wikipedia says this, but afaik it has never been build
[14:52] <Undertasker> Cubieboard? I have one here
[14:52] <IalexI> oh, really?
[14:52] <Undertasker> Indeed
[14:52] <Undertasker> And it has sata
[14:53] <Undertasker> #cubieboard
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[14:54] <Undertasker> It also has all relevant pins of the A10 on headers, so you can use composite video like with rthe raspi, lvds for displays, and VGA
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[14:54] <Undertasker> And it has real 100mnit Ethernet, not USb ethernet
[14:55] <Undertasker> Unfortunately, XBMC doesn't run that well yet
[14:56] <Undertasker> But it's a really nice development platform for Android and Linux
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[14:57] <Undertasker> http://cubieboard.org/
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[15:29] <gordonDrogon> The Pi can do some real-time stuff, but there are limits to what it can do - and the speed it can do it in.
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[15:30] <gordonDrogon> it all depends just how real-time you need.
[15:30] <IalexI> Undertasker, cubox looks really promising
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[15:30] <gordonDrogon> I use Pi with Arduino for some tasks.
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[15:33] <Chir0n> Hi there ! I am having troubles cross-compiling the 3.8.x branch of GitHub raspberrypi repo : v6wbi_flush_kern_tlb_range undefined. I am searching similar problems but I can't make it right yet. Any ideas on top of your heads ? Much appreciated !
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[15:38] <Chir0n> Mmh I'll try disabling ZSMALLOC, let's see
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[16:23] <AdvancedNewbie> New version of PiBang released 8 hours ago
[16:25] <\\Mr_C\\> uhh
[16:25] <\\Mr_C\\> wtf is that?
[16:25] <AdvancedNewbie> Derrr
[16:26] <AdvancedNewbie> http://pibanglinux.org/
[16:26] <\\Mr_C\\> oh
[16:26] <\\Mr_C\\> hehe
[16:26] <AdvancedNewbie> ;)
[16:26] <\\Mr_C\\> google took me to some rap crap
[16:26] <AdvancedNewbie> cRap
[16:28] <AdvancedNewbie> http://oi45.tinypic.com/wtdudl.jpg ??
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[16:32] <linuxthefish> will the temperature sensor be accurate enough to measure the outside temperature if i take away the heat the CPU generates?
[16:33] <AdvancedNewbie> Not a good idea.
[16:33] <AdvancedNewbie> Use the i2c?
[16:33] <linuxthefish> using "/opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp" command
[16:33] <AdvancedNewbie> I know what you mean
[16:33] <AdvancedNewbie> But it's going to vary all the time.
[16:34] <linuxthefish> even with no load?
[16:34] <AdvancedNewbie> You would never remove all heat completely and you would need to compensate.
[16:34] <AdvancedNewbie> I don't think it would be linear either.
[16:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> linuxthefish no you need a ds18b20
[16:34] <RaTTuS|BIG> see http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/freshers/raspberrypi/tutorials/temperature/
[16:35] <linuxthefish> oh yeah, I forgot about GPIO :p
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[16:44] <\\Mr_C\\> can the OS be installed to a usb stick and booted? or does it have to be the card slot?
[16:46] <IT_Sean> \\Mr_C\\: you can put your home directory on a USB thumbdrive, but, the SD card is required to boot. You have to boot from that first.
[16:46] <clever> start.elf, bootcode.bin, and kernel.img must be on the sd card
[16:46] <\\Mr_C\\> thank you
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[17:02] <anew> how many scripts can u run on pi? i'm on my 4th one and see it running very very slow
[17:02] <anew> is that normal
[17:02] * ShadowJK_ can run a thousand scripts
[17:02] <Coffe> anew: depends on the scripts
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[17:02] <ShadowJK_> or 0 scripts
[17:03] <anew> thousand ?
[17:03] <ShadowJK_> depending on how bloated they are
[17:03] <anew> well not huge scripts
[17:03] <anew> 4 normal ones i'd say
[17:03] <anew> when is tart the 4th it just goes so slow
[17:03] <anew> just dont know if i should buy another pi or not
[17:04] <ShadowJK_> Considering that when raspbian starts, it runs about 30 scripts, heh
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[17:04] <ShadowJK_> I'd call those "normal"
[17:04] <anew> how many lines are those
[17:04] <ShadowJK_> If it slows down after 4, I'd call those highly unusual
[17:04] <anew> ok
[17:04] <ShadowJK_> 20-50 -ish
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[17:06] <anew> meh might order another one anyway
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[17:10] <gordonDrogon> what are the scripts doing?
[17:11] <gordonDrogon> scripts are just programs and programs can unfairly use the avalable resources if they are not 'friendly' ...
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[17:15] <anew> any new rpi's in the works? going to buy one now but if like a 1gb one is coming out in a week i'll wait
[17:15] <IT_Sean> anew: no.
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> anew, no.
[17:16] <gordonDrogon> there are no memory chips for that SoC over 512MB either, as far as I know.
[17:16] <linuxstb> As far as we know? The 512MB upgrade wasn't announced in advance.
[17:16] <gordonDrogon> google: osbourne effect
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[17:17] <IT_Sean> Anything over 512mb would require a different SoC. A new SoC basically means a complete ground up redesign. And that would be very expensive and time consuming. So... not gonna happen any time soon.
[17:19] <anew> anyone have a heatsink for their pi ?
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[17:19] <Cavedude> 640k ought to be enough for anybody!
[17:21] <DeliriumTremens> anew: i do, they don't really do anything
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[17:23] <IalexI> IT_Sean, do you have an idea, why this SoC has been chosen? It's not really open hardware
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[17:25] * gyeben thinks that there's no need for heatsink for one's pi
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[17:26] <IalexI> anyone tried to use openvpn on this device? is it able to saturate a 10 mbit/s link ?
[17:26] <gordonDrogon> IalexI, it was avalable at the right price?
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[17:27] <gordonDrogon> IalexI, unlikely - I can't get ssh to get anywhere near that...
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[17:30] <IalexI> gordonDrogon, I am not sure if the same type of encryption cipher is used.. though both software packages take advantage of openssl
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[17:36] <clever> IalexI: i believe openvpn encrypts each packet seperately (and uses udp)
[17:36] <clever> so there are some differences in what types of crypto each is able to use
[17:36] <clever> openvpn has to allow lost packets, along with the entire ciphertext, while ssh cant
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[17:38] <gordonDrogon> I've never seen ssh over about 3Mb/sec - can't see openVpn going much faster...
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[17:38] <clever> something i cant figure out, winscp is horid, it cant saturate 100mbit
[17:39] <clever> something is clearly wrong with the windows build of it
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[17:39] <Jerrino77> Hello all!
[17:40] <Jerrino77> some Italian here?
[17:40] <IalexI> gordonDrogon, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=13906
[17:40] <IalexI> have a look here
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[17:43] <obi134> hi all
[17:44] <Jerrino77> hi
[17:44] <Jerrino77> I need some help for installation
[17:44] <kaste> just ask
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[17:45] <gordonDrogon> IalexI, still well under 10Mb/sec let alone 100...
[17:45] <obi134> maybe someone could help me with installing driver "rt3572sta" for a wifi-dongle?
[17:45] <Jerrino77> my new Pi won't boot, followed guides to prepare SD, but when i plug microusb, it stucks with red light
[17:45] <Jerrino77> no green light at all
[17:46] <Jerrino77> i don't have plugged keyboard/mouse
[17:46] <Jerrino77> is it important?
[17:46] <gordonDrogon> if it's important to you that it boots, then yes.
[17:47] <gordonDrogon> No green light at all is somewhat suspicious - you should see it blip at least once as it tries to read the SD card.
[17:48] <Jerrino77> @gordonDrogon yes, a little flash just after i insert microusb, then nothing more
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[17:49] <gordonDrogon> I'd re-flash the SD card.
[17:49] <gordonDrogon> it's tried to read the boot file, but faile.d
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[17:53] <Jerrino77> @gordon ok, i'm trying with Arch
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[17:54] <gordonDrogon> make sure you write to the while flash device, and not a partition.
[17:54] <gordonDrogon> *whole.
[17:54] <Jerrino77> yes I did it
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[17:54] <Jerrino77> ok it boots with Arch
[17:54] <gordonDrogon> well that's a start.
[17:55] <Jerrino77> I have tried with Rby-OS-SE, an italian distro without DE
[17:55] <Jerrino77> but it doesn't boot
[17:55] <Jerrino77> well, first step done!
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[18:00] <gordonDrogon> Try Raspbian ...
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[18:01] <FR^2> gordonDrogon: Is there a simple way to use your library (e.g. the function int waitForInterrupt (int pin, int timeOut)) from within python? ^^
[18:02] <obi134> maybe someone could help me with installing driver "rt3572sta" for a wifi-dongle?
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[18:04] <gordonDrogon> FR^2, I don' know - you'd need to see Gadgetoid for that...
[18:04] <gordonDrogon> FR^2, I'm really not a Python expert at all... Now if you want to use C ... ;-)
[18:04] <FR^2> Hehe
[18:05] <FR^2> Or I'll use java native interfaces to use that from java ;)
[18:05] <gordonDrogon> I'm actually looking at putting it in my BASIC too - give it the ability to call a BASIC procedure from an interrupt. How cool would that be ;-)
[18:06] * NetBat wonders how efficiently Java runs on the Pi.
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[18:08] <gordonDrogon> I've used the arduino IDE which s written in Java IIRC - it's slow, but usable...
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[18:09] <FR^2> NetBat: Works quite efficient, but the whole (memory) overhead for just counting impulses on a GPIO pin...
[18:11] <gordonDrogon> write a litte C shim and call it from python/java/ etc. ?
[18:12] <FR^2> The only reason I'm asking is that I don't do C ;)
[18:12] <gordonDrogon> It's on my to-do list to look at how the whole PYthon+C interface works, but it's very near the bottom..
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[18:17] <y0shiy0shi> i have an issue that i can't figure out. Im using the gpio of the pi to light some status LED's, read the input of a push button, and excecute some code based on the status of a connected toggle switch. everything is working fine except the toggle switch.
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[18:18] <y0shiy0shi> I'm using a toggle switch that I got from radioshack that is one of those illuminated airplane toggle with cover. it has 3 connectors, power, acc, and ground
[18:19] <y0shiy0shi> the led on the switch when you flip the cover lights up when you apply 3.3v, but i'm not sure how to wire this up to an input pin on the pi. i don't want to damage the board. anyone have an idea?
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[18:20] <y0shiy0shi> it's this guy if you need a visual. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2062493
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[18:28] <gordonDrogon> ok
[18:28] <gordonDrogon> that;s probably a single pole 2-way switch.
[18:29] <gordonDrogon> ok. SPST.
[18:29] <gordonDrogon> that one isn't illuminated.
[18:29] <gordonDrogon> I'd use a multimeter to connect to the middle terminal and see which of the other 2 is open or closed. The flip the switch and check again
[18:30] <IT_Sean> There should also be a pinout either printed on the switch body, or in the packaging for it.
[18:30] <gordonDrogon> then, you wire one of the 2 pins you identified as normally open until you flip the switch to 0v and the other to the gpio pin. You enable the internal pull-up resistor and off you go. the inputs reads high when the swich is not toggled, and reads low when it is.
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[18:37] <gordonDrogon> time to go home.
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[18:38] <y0shiy0shi> thanks
[18:41] <nid0> anyone happen to be familiar with cacti?
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[18:46] <IT_Sean> nid0: the pointy shrub arrangement, usually found in deserts and wyle e coyote cartoons?
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[18:47] <nid0> no, the "supposed to be a better bandwidth monitoring software option than mrtg but cant get the damn thing to see its plugins"
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[18:48] <IT_Sean> Oh. Well. Then no. Sorry. Not familiar with it.
[18:48] <nid0> boo :(
[18:48] <IT_Sean> I said sorry!
[18:48] <IT_Sean> :p
[18:49] <D4CH_RPi> But
[18:49] <D4CH_RPi> Do you FEEL sorry?
[18:49] <IT_Sean> Not really. But i SAID it.
[18:49] <D4CH_RPi> Saying it is 80% of it
[18:49] <IT_Sean> And that's what counts.
[18:49] <nid0> would it help if I drew a cartoon of me being frustrated at the software not working, and roadrunner saying "meep meep"?
[18:49] <IT_Sean> I'll settle for 80%.
[18:49] <IT_Sean> nid0: only if an acme brand safe then falls on your head.
[18:49] <D4CH_RPi> Do it anyways, nid0
[18:49] <IT_Sean> ...and explodes.
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[18:51] <obi134> how do i install a new driver for my wifi-dongle? i got the rt5372 from the ralink homepage but how do i install it?
[18:51] <obi134> it's a textfile
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[18:53] <obi134> with a lot of code inside
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[19:00] <wroberts1> obi134: you need to compile kernel module
[19:01] <obi134> wroberts1: could you tell me how?
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[19:03] <wroberts1> perhaps http://bchavez.bitarmory.com/archive/2013/01/16/compiling-kernel-modules-for-raspberry-pi.aspx
[19:04] <Xeph> obi134: google that topic, there's a howto for that driver: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1285828
[19:04] <obi134> i googled the last 2h and found nothing ;-)
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[19:05] <Xeph> obi134: didnt mean it like that, but you'll need to google a lot until it works, i guess :)
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[19:06] <obi134> hehe okay:)
[19:08] <obi134> wow...looks linke a lot of work...i thought i have to copy it somewhere and hit the enter key;)
[19:08] <chupacabra> lol
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[19:10] <Xeph> obi134: for wireless dongles, it's easier to search for a driver first and then buy a device
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[19:11] <obi134> the dongle was already there;)
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[19:12] <chupacabra> dongles are almost free
[19:15] <wroberts1> or just choose from http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Working_USB_Wi-Fi_Adapters
[19:16] <obi134> thats to easy;)
[19:16] <Xeph> obi134: i'll remind you in??? lets say 4, 5 hours, that you said that :)
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[19:16] <Xeph> ehehe
[19:16] <obi134> hehe
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[19:18] <wroberts1> for myself, instead of getting usb wifi, i set up openwrt router as "wifi as wan"
[19:19] <tb01110100> On boot, my Pi stalls and I get this error: "/sbin/init: error while loading shared libraries: libpam.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" Then a lot more stuff about a Kernel panic, not syncing, and entering kdb. Help!
[19:19] <tb01110100> Archarm, btw.
[19:20] <wroberts1> tb01110100: propbably easier to re-image the sdcard, but copy off any important files first
[19:20] <tb01110100> wroberts1: Thanks.
[19:20] <tb01110100> Well, I'll try e2fsck first.
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[19:25] <Hexxeh> bonjourno.
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[19:27] <tb01110100> hey, there Hexxeh .
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[19:29] <tethra> hey all, is a new raspberrypi that has red light + no output to display likely to be borked? I've checked the SD card and it contains raspbian as you'd expect (it was pre-imaged as part of a bundle)
[19:29] <tethra> I've checked through a lot of forums and wikis and can't really come to a conclusion, possibly due to hoping it isn't DOA :/
[19:31] <pksato> tethra: SD card have a 56MB partition?
[19:31] <tethra> 59MB, but I suppose that depends on whether my laptop is using Mibi or Mega :)
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[19:31] <wroberts1> tethra: you should connect to serial uart console
[19:32] <tethra> wroberts1, i'm guessing that requires a wired connection?
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[19:32] <pksato> tethra: One of mistake is to write .img to SD partition, not to whole disk.
[19:33] <wroberts1> yea this console cable, that gives 3.3v uart connecting wires
[19:34] <tethra> pksato, it was imaged by the distributor for me, so I'm inclined to hope that it might not be the problem
[19:34] <Xeph> tethra: is your usb-device powerful enough? rpi needs more than 500mA
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[19:34] <pksato> and, other, is a use of inappropriate power supply.
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[19:35] <wroberts1> tethra: always useful in case of trouble http://www.mcmelectronics.com/product/83-14392
[19:35] <tethra> Xeph, pretty sure it is, yeah, again, power supply was bundled, I'd be surprised if they gave me something below spec (I'll double check for sanity purposes though, one minute)
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[19:35] <tethra> wroberts1, ah, i don't have one to hand
[19:36] <tethra> but I'll find one in .uk, looks useful!
[19:36] <pksato> tethra: um plug micro usb, check if SD is proper inserted. stay your eyes on act led. and plug micro usb power input.
[19:36] <pksato> act led can be blink once if SD is reconized.
[19:37] <tethra> is it safe to insert SD *after* powering on?
[19:37] <pksato> no.
[19:37] <tethra> thought not
[19:38] <pksato> SD must be inserted before power.
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[19:41] <cyanboy> Hi, is this the right place for questions about compatible devices?
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[19:42] <jelly1> cyanboy: check elinux
[19:42] <jelly1> http://elinux.org/RPi_Hub
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[19:43] <tethra> pksato, act is periodically green on boot, healthy sign?
[19:43] * tethra just took the top off his case
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[19:45] <cyanboy> jelly1, just one question. If hypothetically speaking I would have a wifi dongle that is compatible with GNU/Linux, would it be compatible with the raspberry pi?
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[19:46] <jelly1> probably
[19:46] <jelly1> it uses the linux kernel
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[19:47] <adeus> pick one from the verified peripheral list and it'll just work
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[19:51] <cyanboy> but adeus, I was planning on ordering from dx.com cheapy chap cheap
[19:51] <D4CH_RPi> dx is awesome
[19:52] <cyanboy> I want a wireless dongle that is compatible with raspi and injection (for backtrack/kali linux fun)
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[19:54] <adeus> it might still be on the list
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[19:55] <tethra> currently on: SD card is in (partitions are done right, 59MB partition with various .bin and .img files etc, the rest a normal looking linux system), power light is solidly red, activity light is periodically on when i poke it (inserting/removing peripherals, power off/power on prompt it), display is plugged in but giving no output - disconnecting the hdmi cable seems to bring the monitor out of standby and putting it back in puts it straight bac
[19:55] <tethra> k into standby
[19:56] <tethra> anyone seen this before? :/
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[19:56] * tethra is referring to http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting with no avail
[19:57] <tethra> (act light isn't flashing in a specific pattern on power on, either, fwiw)
[19:57] <IT_Sean> tethra: HDMI monitor?
[19:57] <tethra> DVI actually
[19:57] <IT_Sean> HDMI > DVI adapter?
[19:57] <tethra> yeah
[19:58] <IT_Sean> And there is no video signal at all?
[19:58] <IT_Sean> Or is it just a black screen?
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[19:58] <tethra> not a black screen, monitor is in standby/no signal (orange power light on monitor as opposed to its usual blue)
[19:59] <IT_Sean> What is the rating on your power supply?
[19:59] <pksato> on some cases, need to force hdmi put on config.txt. try first with hdmi_save=yes
[19:59] <IT_Sean> It's either not booting correctly, or it is not detecting the monitor at boot.
[20:00] <IT_Sean> Try what pksato said
[20:00] <tethra> 2x5v / 1.05A or 1x5v / 2.1A
[20:00] <chod> alse the edid info passed from the monitor to the gpu is incorect and needs to ignored
[20:00] <tethra> right, i'll have a go with that
[20:00] <chod> then u manually set the best mode for you monitor
[20:01] <IT_Sean> Either of those power supplies should be fine. Try pksato's suggestion. It sounds liek it's not detecting the HDMI adapter
[20:01] * tethra should have read config.txt before
[20:01] <pksato> to edit config.txt, put sd on some "big" computer, and open config.txt with any pure text editor.
[20:02] <tethra> aye, already on it :)
[20:03] <pksato> hdmi_safe=1 to more precise.
[20:03] <tethra> aye, got it, i also uncommented the line on hotplug
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[20:04] <pksato> http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt
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[20:12] <tethra> joy, the SD card reader on my pc has decided it isn't going to play ball the second time I put it in. lol.
[20:13] <\\Mr_C\\> weird, why is the raspi powering on from a usb HUB? are the power lines the same from the 2 usb ports and the actual dedicated power hole?
[20:13] <IT_Sean> \\Mr_C\\: that's called backfeed
[20:13] <IT_Sean> It does that.
[20:13] <\\Mr_C\\> is that safe?
[20:13] <IT_Sean> Perfectly okay to power it that way, as well, so long as it runs properly
[20:13] <\\Mr_C\\> hmm
[20:14] <IT_Sean> it's not the recommended method, but, it shouldn't cause it any harm
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[20:14] <\\Mr_C\\> if thats the case, can the dedicated power port be used as a usb port?
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[20:14] <\\Mr_C\\> it is a usb micro
[20:14] <IT_Sean> No
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[20:14] <IT_Sean> That is for power input only
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[20:14] <\\Mr_C\\> ok
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[20:15] <Neal_> lol
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[20:16] <IT_Sean> It's a micro-usb connector in physical form only. It's data lines are not actually connected to anything.
[20:16] <\\Mr_C\\> ok
[20:17] <\\Mr_C\\> sorta scared me when i plugged this in the usb port and it powered on, was afraid i was about to cook or fry something
[20:17] <IT_Sean> nah
[20:17] <\\Mr_C\\> i have it rigged up with a 5v 2 amp usb hub
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[20:18] <IT_Sean> Not all hubs backfeed. Technically, they are not supposed to. But, some cheaper hubs are not built properly, and you can power the Pi from them in that manner.
[20:18] <MarkDude> backfeed works well.
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[20:18] <\\Mr_C\\> i actually wanted to use the switched hub sdwitches as a power on off
[20:18] <MarkDude> Altho it seems counterintuitive
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[20:18] <MarkDude> Or recursive
[20:18] <MarkDude> :D
[20:18] <\\Mr_C\\> but it doesnt seem like thats going to work unless i dont usb the data cable
[20:18] * MarkDude powers his Pi by only the power to usb hub
[20:19] <IT_Sean> I should see if mine will backfeed, as that would simplify my wiring for the enclosure i'm building
[20:19] * MarkDude does this due to hacked case I use :)
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[20:20] * MarkDude has only seen a few OS I have tried want the keyboard in one of the main usb ports
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[20:21] <Undertasker> IT_Sean, I noticed this today. Got a new hub delivered, and was surprised that it powers the raspi backwards
[20:21] <IT_Sean> As i said... some of 'em do that.
[20:21] <MarkDude> Risc OS wanted the wireless keyboard dongle in the main usb for 1st run, after that no issues
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[20:22] <Undertasker> This is a broken design, I should send the hub back
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[20:23] <wroberts1> a usb hub that sends power up to the host?
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[20:24] * MarkDude has a Belkin hub that works GREAT, no issues with backfeed with most OS
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[20:24] <MarkDude> And then ONLY on 1st run
[20:25] <chupacabra> mine does it all the time
[20:25] <MarkDude> Short usb cords make for a nice clean build
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[20:28] <obi134> mhh if i do "make" for the wifi driver the answer is that /lib/modules/3.6.11+/build is not existing
[20:29] <obi134> anybody knows a solution?
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[20:35] <\\Mr_C\\> is there a micro usb adapter with a tiny switch on it? couldnt find anything on ebay
[20:36] <pksato> make one. :)
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[20:36] <\\Mr_C\\> hehe
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[20:37] <IT_Sean> I have never seen such a thing
[20:37] * wroberts1 will try wiringPiISR()
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[20:39] <tethra> hrm, still no hdmi output having tried hdmi_safe=1
[20:39] <pksato> go to hardware store and find some small switch, a new usb cable. strip part of cable , cut 5v wire, and insert switch here.
[20:39] <pksato> :)
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[20:40] <pksato> tethra: you have a TV with composite (rca) input, or a tv capture card?
[20:40] <tethra> neither, my monitor is my only screen :(
[20:40] <tethra> aside from my laptop which doesn't welcome any kind of input
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[20:41] <pksato> or, connect RPi to network and try ssh access.
[20:41] <IT_Sean> Aye... can you SSH to it?
[20:41] <IT_Sean> check at your router for the IP.
[20:41] <tethra> not sure, i'd have to go and get an ethernet cable off a friend to find out
[20:42] <tethra> fortunately this will take me less than 15 minutes
[20:42] <tethra> :D
[20:42] <IT_Sean> well... get going then.
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[20:42] <tethra> aye.
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[20:42] * tethra shall run ;)
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[21:39] <tethra> trying the raspbian default login (u:pi) over ssh, i've confirmed it is connected, it has an ip, it refuses connections
[21:39] <tethra> any ideas, anyone? :/
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[21:40] <tethra> responds to pings, too
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[21:42] <IalexI> tethra, sshd is disabled by default
[21:42] <IT_Sean> The recent versions of raspbian have it enabled by default, don't they??
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[21:43] <IalexI> IT_Sean, well, I got my pi just a couple of days ago.. and the freshly installed raspian didn't have it activated
[21:43] <tethra> ugh.
[21:43] <tethra> so no sshd, and no hdmi output
[21:44] <tethra> hear's to thinking something in life might be simple for once!
[21:44] <tethra> :D
[21:44] <IalexI> tethra, do you have a pc where you can access the ext4 partition of the sd card?
[21:44] <tethra> yes, i've already put hdmi_safe=1 in config.txt too
[21:44] <tethra> if that's what you were going to say :p
[21:45] <Xeph> There are two important home-server practices: Add yourself to the sudoers file and set up ssh, both just with keyboard input and no screen.
[21:45] <Xeph> (editing those files on a laptop is boring)
[21:46] <IalexI> tethra, try the following: cd /etc/rc2.d ; ln -s ../init.d/ssh S99ssh
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[21:46] <lupine> yes there is
[21:46] <tethra> ah heh, hadn't thought to do that
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[21:50] <IalexI> I have set the root partition to read only and I am using unionfs to combine read only directories like /home and a tmpfs to create writable directories
[21:51] <IalexI> after a browser session, /home isn't readable anymore: ls: cannot open directory .: Transport endpoint is not connected
[21:51] <IalexI> I haven't found any error message (ie dmesg doesn't show anything)
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[21:52] <IalexI> I guess its a low memory situation.. but I am not sure. Does somebody have an idea?
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[21:59] <tethra> hooray, I have ssh access. anyone know if there's anything I can do from here to poke my hdmi output into life? :)
[22:00] <chod> edit config.txt
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[22:00] <tethra> i've already got it with hdmi_safe=1
[22:01] <tethra> should I do more?
[22:02] <chod> there are loads of things to try
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[22:03] <chod> we had to get the gpu to ignore the edid infor from the monitor
[22:03] <chod> then manually set the best mode for the monitor
[22:03] <tethra> any suggestions? I've checked http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt and http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting
[22:03] <tethra> oh, fun
[22:04] <chod> there is an edid igonre or such like
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[22:04] <chod> then a hdmi mode value for your mode
[22:04] <tethra> right
[22:05] <chod> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=5851
[22:05] <chod> loads of discussion there
[22:05] <chod> we had to do this yesterday at our monthly meet for one guy
[22:06] <chod> it appears some monitors lie
[22:06] <chod> my iiyamas behave a little better
[22:07] <tethra> I have an LG, i'll see if this does the trick
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[22:07] <staykov> hi, id like to use 1 or 2 pis to run on some projectors
[22:07] <staykov> they take hdmi, vga, dvi, even apperently usb
[22:08] <staykov> thing is i have 3 projectors and would like to get away with only 1 or two raspberrys
[22:08] <staykov> any ideas on how to get multiple video out?
[22:08] <chod> video splitter ebay
[22:08] <staykov> video splitter hdmi?
[22:09] <staykov> will they appear as different displays?
[22:09] <IT_Sean> Doubtful.
[22:09] <chod> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1X2-1080P-HDMI-Splitter-Switcher-Amplifier-Hub-For-BlueRay-DVD-HDTV-Dual-Display-/300887229257?pt=UK_Computing_Sound_Vision_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item460e46c349
[22:09] <chod> staykov: no
[22:09] <chod> get three pi's there cheap
[22:09] <staykov> aye i didnt think so
[22:09] <staykov> thanks for not answering :P
[22:10] <staykov> guess its just not possible
[22:10] <chod> maybe it is, can you code ?
[22:10] <staykov> not a lot of c
[22:10] <staykov> where would i start
[22:11] <chod> probably easier to buy a laptop with three video outs
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[22:11] <staykov> alright thanks
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[22:25] <tethra> should I be concerned that unplugging hdmi while running tvservice -M yields no output? :/
[22:25] <tethra> unplugging, then replugging, i should say
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[22:32] <wooy> anyone read the gsm gateway blog post? http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3679
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[22:33] <pksato> tethra: You realy have DVI-D input monitor? or onw with dvi in, but only analog singnal? Model?
[22:33] <wooy> its strange, they states that voip in Cambodia is really bad, but setting up asterisk over internet works fine
[22:34] <pksato> voip over 3G?
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[22:35] <wooy> pksato: nope, gsm gateway over internet
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[22:36] <wooy> it basically says that voip failed, while asterisk completely succeeded
[22:37] <wooy> i dont see much difference between the two
[22:37] <pksato> no, why voip in Cambodia is bad.
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[22:38] <wooy> the article says bad bandwidth, drop outs, unreliable
[22:38] <pksato> yes, I read.
[22:38] <wooy> but 80??? gsm gateway fixed it, mirracle
[22:38] <plugwash> maybe voip over the cellular network was bad but voip over a fixed connection was ok
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[22:39] <pksato> but, not explains that kind connection is used on voip problem.
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[22:42] <plugwash> hmm, it seems what was unreliable was using his VOIP provider to connect directly to the cambodian phone
[22:42] <plugwash> meaning the problem likely had nothing to do with the internet and everything to do with how his VOIP provider was routing the call to cambodia
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[22:45] <zleap> hi
[22:46] <plugwash> hi
[22:46] <IT_Sean> hi
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[22:46] <zleap> ah we have life, :)
[22:46] <IT_Sean> we do?
[22:46] <IT_Sean> where?
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[22:47] <zleap> the devon and cornwall lug channels are rather quiet
[22:47] <IT_Sean> actually, so is this one. The other users you see in here are just very clever shell scripts.
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[22:47] <zleap> lol
[22:48] <IT_Sean> or in the case of plugwash, only moderately clever shell scripts.
[22:48] <zleap> i know gordondrogon is real
[22:48] <zleap> i need to work out how to join several channels on irssi
[22:48] <IT_Sean> have you tried the /join command?
[22:49] <zleap> i mean auto join
[22:49] <zleap> i auto join #dclug
[22:49] <IT_Sean> ah.
[22:49] <IT_Sean> what's #dclug?
[22:49] <zleap> devon and cornwall lug
[22:49] <IT_Sean> it sounds like the sound my grain makes when i pull the stopper out
[22:49] <IT_Sean> oooh, i see.
[22:49] <IT_Sean> *drain
[22:49] <zleap> that would be the dcglug
[22:50] <zleap> gnu linux user group
[22:50] <IT_Sean> ahh. fair point.
[22:50] <zleap> which indeed says lug
[22:50] <zleap> i mean glug
[22:50] <IT_Sean> wait.... how do you know what my kitchen drain sounds like!?
[22:50] <IT_Sean> O_O
[22:51] <zleap> which given the amount of rain we had a while back glug sounds about right
[22:51] <IT_Sean> really? shame. It's been loverly here.
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[22:51] * plugwash slaps IT_Sean arround a bit with a large trout
[22:52] * IT_Sean threatens plugwash with a pre-SP1 copy of Windows Vista
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[22:54] * chod is a badly written script
[22:55] <applegekko> winvista YAY
[22:55] <applegekko> i take it!
[22:55] * IT_Sean takes it back
[22:55] <IT_Sean> MINE!
[22:55] <applegekko> :(
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[22:56] <plugwash> Though the windows box I use the most runs one of the more obscure versions
[22:57] <plugwash> good old windows XP proffessional x64 edition
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[23:01] <HektoR> Hey guys. i want to use PI in car, i want to run any linux with touch screen monitor .. can anyone suggest devices or tutorials to do this ?
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[23:03] <tethra> anyone know how to use tvservice? I'm trying tvservice --explicit=DMT / tvservice --explicit=35 and a bunch of variants, not sure what i'm doing wrong but it gives me "invalid arguments" every time
[23:04] <wroberts1> HektoR: 4d systems has those touchscreens
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[23:05] <HektoR> wroberts1: what 4d system ?
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[23:07] <wroberts1> they make screens, and some that go with raspberry
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[23:15] <tethra> is there anything other than tvservice i should be checking for when trying to work out why there's no signal going to my monitor?
[23:16] <SpeedEvil> that the cable is plugged in at both ends, not broken, and the monitor and pi are turned on
[23:16] <SpeedEvil> and that the SD has a valid image
[23:16] <tethra> i think i'll buy an abacus
[23:16] <tethra> i've checked the config.txt, tried safe mode, tried the ignore edid setting, turned on sshd and logged in successfully, running various bits like apt-get update and tvservice itself, i have a list of DMT modes that tvservice claims my monitor prefers
[23:17] <tethra> trying to run tvservice --explicit DMT <mode> returns success, in reality appears to do nothing
[23:17] <tethra> i've tried that with and without sudo
[23:17] <chod> did u pick a mode the monitor can do ?
[23:17] <chod> it is hdmi ?
[23:18] <tethra> yes, i picked a mode the monitor can do
[23:18] <tethra> tvservice -m DMT gives a number of outputs
[23:18] <chod> i have not used that
[23:18] <chod> how is it connected?
[23:18] <tethra> hdmi cable
[23:19] <tethra> there's a dvi adaptor at the end of it as the monitor takes dvi input
[23:19] <chod> ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[23:19] <pksato> tethra: what monitor model you have?
[23:19] <chod> thats different
[23:19] <tethra> LG somethingorother, i'll check
[23:19] <tethra> w2452tx
[23:20] <pksato> and, tested cable and adapter on other computer or hdmi outpur capable device?
[23:20] <tethra> adapter is tested, cable i have nothing else to test on but it is new / shop bought#
[23:21] <chod> so the edid is going to be wrong
[23:22] <tethra> i've tried the edid ignore setting in config.txt
[23:22] <tethra> seemed to do nothing
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[23:22] <chod> then you need to set the mode
[23:22] <chod> with correct freq etc
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[23:25] <tethra> right
[23:25] <tethra> how do I go about doing that, if not with tvservice?
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[23:25] <chod> the monitor has a prefered mode ?
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[23:26] <tethra> yeah
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[23:27] <Firehopper> the preferred mode is usually the monitor's native resolution
[23:27] * chod nods
[23:27] <tethra> i'm setting that with tvservice, though..?
[23:27] <tethra> have I got the wrong idea? :/
[23:27] <chod> no
[23:28] <chod> i said earlier
[23:28] <chod> then a hdmi mode value for your mode
[23:28] <tethra> you did..?
[23:28] <Firehopper> hdmi > dvi can mess with things.. so it prolly needs to be set properly in config.txt.
[23:28] <chod> google knows all this
[23:29] <Firehopper> also may need to set it so that the rpi always thinks a monitor is always connected
[23:29] <Firehopper> theres a setting for that, I forget what its called though..
[23:29] <tethra> i've already googled, read http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=5851 and http://elinux.org/RPi_config.txt and http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting amongst many others
[23:29] <Firehopper> hotplug maybe
[23:29] <tethra> hdmi_hotplug
[23:29] <tethra> yes
[23:30] <wroberts1> wiringPiISR crashed my pi :(
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[23:31] <chod> http://elinux.org/RPiconfig
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[23:39] <tethra> doesn't really contain any information i hadn't already ascertained :(
[23:40] <chod> what mode do you want ?
[23:40] <chod> ant what freq
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[23:41] <tethra> edid said preferred mode was 68 / 1920x1200 @ 60hz
[23:42] <chod> hdmi_mode=68 1920x1200 reduced blanking
[23:42] <chod> reduced blanking ?
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[23:42] <tethra> either that or edid is lying
[23:42] <chod> did you try that ?
[23:43] <chod> if you are using an adaptor is *is* lying
[23:43] <tethra> oh.
[23:43] <chod> well most likley
[23:43] <chod> what is the monitor built to do ?
[23:43] <chod> did you try hdmi_mode=68 ?
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[23:44] <chod> does it need reduced reduce blanking
[23:44] <tethra> i have no idea
[23:44] <tethra> i give up, i'll try again some other time
[23:44] <chod> find out what your monitor needs
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