#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-04-14

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

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[0:03] <TheCloneBay> aprently the HTC legened charger is ok :/
[0:05] <mumbles> zleap thanks brought
[0:05] <mumbles> ack he left
[0:05] <gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: evening!
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[0:07] <gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Do you reckon you could replicate more of Arduino's I2C Wire library functions into WiringPi? I'm currently trying to hack some in so I can do a continuous 4-byte read from an ADC
[0:08] <TheCloneBay> http://www.uk-mobilestore.co.uk/products/Genuine-HTC-Legend-Mains-Charger-%252d-TC-B250.html <seems ok unless anybody else knows anything that will work thats cheaper
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[0:08] <Duality> hey all :)
[0:08] <Duality> anyone here used retropi before ?
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[0:10] <gadgetoid> TheCloneBay: seems atypically cheap
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[0:11] <TheCloneBay> hmm true
[0:11] <TheCloneBay> downloading a 3MB image of the back :p check the amps ect
[0:12] <gadgetoid> Was going to say, it doesn't mention what the output is
[0:12] <TheCloneBay> well it is the HTC legend charger
[0:12] <TheCloneBay> which has been tested before but i mean if anybody else knows one that would work please share
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[0:14] <TheCloneBay> HTC Legend USB Charger plug is 5.0v and 1A.
[0:14] <TheCloneBay> the iPhone one is 5v 1A too which is why im not sure whats up
[0:15] <TheCloneBay> yeh just physically checked mine it is :/
[0:16] <TheCloneBay> the fact i use a extention cable shouldnt really effect that either :/
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[0:19] <Scriven> TheCloneBay, did you check the elinux site? I'd recommend checking there for known-good and known-bad power sources.
[0:20] <TheCloneBay> thanks
[0:20] <Scriven> when i bought my pi's I also bought 5V 1A chargers at the same time, b/c I was unsure of my own sources.
[0:20] <Scriven> tiny things with 120VaC plug on one end, and usb on the other.
[0:20] <TheCloneBay> i personly had no idea i couldnt use my pc line :/
[0:21] * TheCloneBay slaps self
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[0:21] <Scriven> pc usb are apparently rated for a maximum of 500mA, but the Rev. B pi wants 700mA at full power.
[0:21] <Scriven> IIRC.
[0:21] <TheCloneBay> just seems odd that the iphone one is 5v 1a but still dosnt fully work
[0:22] <Scriven> http://elinux.org/RPi_VerifiedPeripherals#Power_adapters
[0:23] <Scriven> As I said, it may not be constant 1A, reportedly some of them do funky stuff b/c they're chargers and not 'power adapters'.
[0:23] <TheCloneBay> yeh :(
[0:23] <Scriven> AH, right on that link it explains it.
[0:23] <Scriven> "Note that apple designs its charger products to work optimally as chargers, in practice this means that apple chargers drop their output voltages somewhat with output current, so that the charging circuits do not need to dissipate more heat than is strictly necessary."
[0:23] <TheCloneBay> yeh :p
[0:24] <TheCloneBay> i have the bottom one the iphone 4 one :/ not to sure what to do then :/
[0:26] <TheCloneBay> hmm it seems to be booted and eathernet is working
[0:27] <TheCloneBay> if i can keep it in that state and unplug HDMI it should be fine maybe :/
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[0:34] <TheCloneBay> i dont really wanna do this but.... underclock may help
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[0:36] <Scriven> headless pi works well for lots of things.
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[0:36] <Scriven> I've recently been reminded how sensitive they are to power. Have an underpowered 12V PS, only 1A but was trying to use it for Pi+hub+screen, and was having issues.
[0:37] <TheCloneBay> yeh is underclocking even.... doable i guess it is
[0:37] <Scriven> But when using the battery (battery has lots of amps, step-down has 5A available) it works just fine, even had ethernet and wifi working simultaneously.
[0:37] <TheCloneBay> wow :p
[0:37] <Duality> does anyone know how to make the retropie install use composite instead of hdmi ?
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[0:39] <Scriven> dunno sorry Duality. never used retropie
[0:39] * lupinedk is now known as Lupinedk
[0:39] <Scriven> Anyone have a good bluetooth keyboard/mouse|touchpad|trackball recommendation? ;)
[0:39] <TheCloneBay> cant belive im doing this..... arm_freq=200
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[0:40] <Scriven> :(
[0:40] <TheCloneBay> wonder how low it could go O.o
[0:41] <TheCloneBay> hopefully this will save some amps
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[0:43] <TheCloneBay> well.... it works thats for shore eathernet and keyboard working issue is wverytime i type a key eathernet goes off
[0:44] <TheCloneBay> if it was CLI only it would be ok i guess
[0:45] <TheCloneBay> well no less V and A but will be esier
[0:45] <gadgetoid> Can't help but think I'm in waaaaay over my head with this C ioctl stuff
[0:45] <TheCloneBay> well considering im only using for a SSH server might aswell save the GPU
[0:47] <gadgetoid> Incredibly my C code compiles and runs, but doesn't appear to do anything useful
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[0:48] <Scriven> gadgetoid, more debug spam! ;)
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[0:51] <TheCloneBay> bleh i hate the iphone -_-
[0:51] <Scriven> apple sucks, sorry to say.
[0:51] <TheCloneBay> agreed
[0:51] <Scriven> they should die a painful death, IMNSHO.
[0:51] <gadgetoid> My Macs serve me well
[0:51] <TheCloneBay> but considering i paid nothing for it
[0:51] <Scriven> and I hate to say it, cause I LOVE the Apple ][ series.
[0:51] <TheCloneBay> its not so bad
[0:52] <Scriven> but everythin after that is proprietary crap, and the new stuff is basically child and/or slave labour built, so, well, screw that.
[0:53] <TheCloneBay> slaves are good :3
[0:54] <gadgetoid> If you want to avoid child/slave labour you've pretty much got to avoid all electronics
[0:55] <geordie> Scriven: you mean APPLE ][
[0:55] <gadgetoid> Sooner or later, someone's suffering- be it on the assembly line, creating the components, or digging up the ol' rare earths
[0:55] <Scriven> geordie, true!
[0:56] <geordie> off to the vancouver hackspace to finally start soldering our gertboard together
[0:56] <Scriven> gadgetoid, hopefully you're wrong, but sadly I don't think you are.
[0:56] <Scriven> geordie, HEY now! you got a ggertboard?
[0:56] <geordie> it
[0:56] <Scriven> can you wait until tuesday?? lol
[0:56] <geordie> haha
[0:56] <geordie> you're here in vancouver
[0:56] * gadgetoid pictures a child with a spade digging up neodymium sand
[0:56] <Scriven> and in #vhs, if you look at your flashy screen. ;)
[0:56] <geordie> Scriven: i work every weeknight
[0:57] <geordie> were you there for the pete lomas talk?
[0:57] <gadgetoid> For some reason I still don't have a gertboard
[0:57] <geordie> that was my kid who scooped all the shwag
[0:58] * XenGi_ is now known as XenGi
[0:58] <Scriven> geordie, no I missed it. :( Was there for the 1st rpi thing tho, got my case and cable, and leds. ;)
[0:58] <Scriven> I don't have a gertboard due to economics, my wallet is mad at me as it is. :((
[0:58] <geordie> yeah no doubt
[0:58] <geordie> we got this one last fall
[0:59] <geordie> i finally got keys for the space today
[0:59] <geordie> gotta take this computer down there
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[1:00] <Scriven> cool... dooh! mised him.
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[1:03] <Helldesk> hmm... I have a working python program that does the minimum I want, and it's 170+ lines... it ought to be tighter though
[1:04] <Helldesk> no idea where to start
[1:05] <Helldesk> except add features :p
[1:05] <Scriven> comments!
[1:06] <gadgetoid> Somehow I suspect -1091541780L is just random garbage
[1:06] <Helldesk> there are some, enough to tide me over to the rewritten version
[1:06] <Helldesk> gonna start now because eh, it's ugly
[1:06] <Helldesk> and I'd like to show it off (though to people that don't code)
[1:06] <Scriven> change it to C++
[1:06] <Scriven> ;)
[1:06] <Helldesk> but its output will be
[1:06] <Helldesk> heh
[1:07] <TheCloneBay> i love my SD card ?2 4GB 8mb/s write not to bad for ?2
[1:07] <Scriven> good deal!
[1:07] <TheCloneBay> ikr
[1:07] <Helldesk> sure I could, but the objective is to get things done and pythong offers tools C/C++ does not... like ready-made stuff for handling all kinds of crazy headaches
[1:07] <TheCloneBay> think it was on amazon :/
[1:07] <Helldesk> like Beautiful Soup
[1:07] <TheCloneBay> was a long while back :/
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[1:09] <Scriven> yeah, there must be a good shared-library for C stuff, but I haven't found it yet. Like cpan for perl.
[1:09] <Scriven> Anyway, AFK for a bit.
[1:09] <Helldesk> *python
[1:10] <Helldesk> anyway, seems I may have to tackle unicode a little bit... but the csv library isn't exactly made for that
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[1:15] <Posterdati> hi
[1:15] <Posterdati> please I've got problem with ethernet, it stopped working
[1:15] <Helldesk> do I use the signal class if I want to make a thing that runs or at least starts once a minute?
[1:16] <Posterdati> I use a psu to feed the board 6W/5V
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[1:23] <gadgetoid> Actually crashed my Pi. boom!
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[1:32] <lilalinux> aloha
[1:32] <lilalinux> is someone running xbmc on a rpi together with a remote tvheadend?
[1:33] <lilalinux> I'm not able to reliably switch channels. xbmc on my mac works fine
[1:33] <lilalinux> does the rpi have enough power for live tv?
[1:33] <lilalinux> (mpeg2 license is installed)
[1:34] <pksato> live tv?
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[1:35] <lilalinux> yeah, streaming dvb from a backend
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[1:35] <pksato> You mean, to recieve on air, satellite or cabe , digital or analog tv?
[1:35] <lilalinux> live vdr or tvheadend
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[1:36] <lilalinux> I use xbmc as the frontend which receives live tv (dvb-t) from a remote tvheadend installation
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[1:36] <lilalinux> it works very well with xbmc on my mac, but on the pi it doesn't
[1:36] <lilalinux> neither with vdr nor with tvheadend as backend
[1:37] <pksato> need to video codec are h264 or mpeg2 (need licence).
[1:38] <lilalinux> I have the mpeg2 license installed
[1:39] <pksato> and xbmc need to use hw decode for mpeg2. But, I dont know if it works.
[1:39] <lilalinux> it does
[1:39] <lilalinux> without the codec I only get audi
[1:40] <pksato> may be, network throughput issue.
[1:40] <lilalinux> I doubt that
[1:41] <lilalinux> but I'll check that
[1:42] <lilalinux> 15mbit
[1:43] <sam_nazarko> What's the issue? I can help with XBMC
[1:43] <lilalinux> sam_nazarko: I can't get livetv to work
[1:43] <sam_nazarko> black screen?
[1:43] <lilalinux> with tvheadend or vdr as backend on a remote system
[1:44] <sam_nazarko> Are you using Raspbmc?
[1:44] <pksato> frame drop/freeze?
[1:44] <lilalinux> xbian
[1:44] <sam_nazarko> Ok I'm #raspbmc dev so don't support that
[1:44] <lilalinux> from the channel list I often can tune in successfully
[1:44] <sam_nazarko> no issues in raspbmc so can't provide much assistance. Sorry
[1:44] <lilalinux> but I can't switch to a different channel
[1:44] <lilalinux> only get black screen and no audio
[1:44] <lilalinux> i.e. nothing
[1:44] <lilalinux> every 10th attempt succeeds
[1:45] <sam_nazarko> Ahh yes
[1:45] <sam_nazarko> I know why
[1:45] * lilalinux is listening
[1:45] <sam_nazarko> they need to fix it in their version of XBMC
[1:45] <sam_nazarko> it's fixed in raspbmc
[1:45] <lilalinux> good to know
[1:45] <lilalinux> any keywords?
[1:45] <sam_nazarko> ???
[1:46] <sam_nazarko> www.raspbmc.com
[1:46] <lilalinux> I meant for the bug
[1:46] <lilalinux> I'll happily install raspbmc
[1:46] <lilalinux> but it would be interesting to know what's going wrong there
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[1:47] <sam_nazarko> detection of an i-frame
[1:47] <lilalinux> wouldn't that show grey/foggy frames?
[1:49] <lilalinux> wow, you cracked the codecs? :-)
[1:49] <lilalinux> good bye xbian
[1:49] <lilalinux> hello raspbmc :-)
[1:50] <sam_nazarko> that's an April Fool
[1:50] <lilalinux> too bad :-)
[1:50] <sam_nazarko> but you'll prefer raspbmc. It's got better support
[1:50] <lilalinux> I was only messing, bought my codecs already :-)
[1:50] <sam_nazarko> Still doesn't matter, pick what you prefer
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[1:52] <lilalinux> ok, good night everybody
[1:52] <sam_nazarko> night
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[3:47] <fr0g911> http://www.speedtest.net/result/2644231332.png
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[3:55] <mattwj2002> howdy neighbors
[3:55] <mattwj2002> :D
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[4:32] <issackelly> Seems like DSI is one of those standards only one person has adopted :-/
[4:33] <issackelly> admittedly, my research here is pretty new, just trying to find a DSI display and I can not.
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[4:34] <terabit> does anyone know of a usb lcd screen that works with the pi ?
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[4:37] <Scriven> usb-powered, or video-over-usb?
[4:37] <Scriven> and did you check the elinux page(s)?
[4:37] <terabit> usb powered+video over usb
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[4:38] <terabit> this to be specific http://www.ebay.com/itm/5M-Waterproof-Snake-Pipe-Cam-Endoscope-USB-Borescope-Inspection-Camera-Tool-/400368396933?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BIA%252BUA%252BFICS%252BUFI%26otn%3D21%26pmod%3D190408107740%26ps%3D54
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[4:43] <ivotkl> Hello everyone. I'm planning to use a Pi as a small home media server. I know something about networking (passed Cisco's CCNA I and currently reading a book about GNU/Linux networking + iptables). Any place where I should start reading?
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[4:44] <Scriven> home media server, I presume you have no dhcp setup ivotkl ?
[4:44] <Scriven> terabit, that's a camera not an lcd?
[4:45] <Scriven> maybe this one? http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-2-8-TFT-LCD-module-LCD-sys-info-display-temperature-fan-AIDA64-LCD-Smartie-/121004607232?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c2c6fc700
[4:46] <Scriven> ivotkl, if your router does dhcp, just plug the pi into the network and it should get address automatically IIRC.
[4:47] <Scriven> if not, then the linux network book you're reading will hopefully explain how to set up a static IP in the same range your network uses. For media you'll need samba probably, assuming you're using windows/linux clients.
[4:47] <Scriven> Mac does speak samba too IIRC, but I'm not sure if there are better things to use for Macos.
[4:48] <terabit> Scriven: yeah, wanted an lcd to display the camera input :)
[4:48] <Scriven> the pi is basically just a linux box when it comes to things like that. The USB drives you share will require their own separate power.
[4:48] <Scriven> terabit, reportedly the 12V 'car backup lcds' can be hacked to take 5V.
[4:48] <Scriven> The one I bought looks different than the how-to, so I haven't done it yet for mine, but can post the URL if you'd like.
[4:48] <Scriven> mine was $25 or so including shipping from ebay.
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[4:49] <Scriven> terabit, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=17651
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[4:50] <terabit> yeah, seems like too much hackery , might as well get it done with my android phone then .
[4:51] <Scriven> the how-to is about 3.5, I found a 4.3. Not really much hackery to it, just remove 12-5V step down and wire cable direct to 5V, but it's certainly non-trivial.
[4:51] <ivotkl> It does, but I was planning to use a D-Link I have used only for less than a year and install there the dd-wrt firmware. After doing that, I would use it to connect the Pi and as a firewall. Also, I would like to have two different networks: One that connects to my ISP, the other one that works just locally. Once I have that packed nice and easy, the second network would also have access to the "outside world" as well.
[4:51] <Scriven> dd-wrt has dhcp server, have used it with no problems in the past.
[4:52] <ivotkl> I could not set it up correctly when I tried it.
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[4:52] <ivotkl> Hold it, I'll boot the Pi and configure dd-wrt from there. BRB.
[4:52] <Scriven> dd-wrt web pages were no help? They'd be a better specific source than a random networking book IMNSHO.
[4:52] <Scriven> I haven't tried mutliple networks, there's no need w/ my setup, sorry.
[4:53] <ivotkl> I do not know what I did wrong, perhaps now I can.
[4:53] <Scriven> why not take it in smaller steps, pick one network topology to setup 1st, then do the other after?
[4:53] <ivotkl> Don't worry Scriven. I believe I have enough knowledge to make it happen. Or at least a part of it.
[4:53] <ivotkl> The first network is already done as it is the ISP modem + WIFI + Ethernet.
[4:54] <Scriven> WRT the pi, it's just a linux box with the same configuration as any other linux box (assuming you're using linux on the pi and not say freebsd. ;) )
[4:54] <ivotkl> Now I need to dust off the D-Link Router and my networking knowledge a bit.
[4:54] <ivotkl> Raspbian.
[4:54] <Scriven> yeah, /etc/network/interfaces is the file, or you could use one of the many X/cli tools.
[4:55] <Scriven> i just learned that network manager has a cli version in fact: nmcli iirc.
[4:56] <Scriven> I'm futzing around with wpa_supplicant and wireless roamingg myself, but that may be sorted, it's working for home again anyway. lol
[4:56] <Scriven> will have to take the pi on the road and test it elsewhere now. ;)
[4:56] <Scriven> terabit, did you see the link I posted for ebay? I'm not sure if that one will work for your needs or not.
[4:57] <Scriven> or this one perhaps http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mimo-UM-720F-Touchscreen-USB-Monitor-/321107276490?pt=Computer_Monitors&hash=item4ac37c32ca
[4:57] <Scriven> but I've ggot no direct exp. with either.
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[4:58] <ivotkl> I see...
[4:59] <ivotkl> What does IIRC mean at the end of some of your messages?
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[4:59] <Scriven> if i recall correctly
[4:59] <terabit> Scriven: yeah I did, the last one you posted seems interesting
[4:59] <Scriven> 7" is a bit big for my project, but yeah it does.
[5:00] <terabit> I'm using it for work (running cables in walls,pipes,inspecting them,etc..
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[5:00] <ivotkl> Thank you Scriven.
[5:01] <Scriven> yw ivotkl . hope it helped.
[5:01] <ivotkl> I'll also post on linuxforums under networking to get further information on connecting both networks.
[5:01] <Scriven> terabit, so the usb power is just an ease-of-use and less-crap-to-drag-around choice?
[5:02] <Scriven> ivotkl, never used that specific forums other than search engine results. Good luck, it shouldn't be too hard I wouldn't have thought.
[5:02] <Triffid_Hunter> ivotkl: with iproute2 you can add multiple ip addresses to an interface.. not sure what other networking info you need, media server is pretty simple.. just install samba
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[5:03] <terabit> well yeah, won't have much power outlets outside in the rain or inside an attic :P
[5:03] <Scriven> terabit, i'm driving my 12V lcd with a 3S lipo quite happily, have a step-down for the pi of course.
[5:03] <\\Mr_C\\> lets just say i install the defualt 8-19-12 raspbian with defualt options, and i start adding stuff with apt-get install ... when i do an apt-get update/upgrade, will it automatically update the ones i added?
[5:03] <Scriven> but battery power is FTW. ;)
[5:04] <Scriven> \\Mr_C\\, yes.
[5:04] <Scriven> if they need it.
[5:04] <\\Mr_C\\> cool, thanks
[5:04] <Triffid_Hunter> \\Mr_C\\: yes of course, that's the whole point :)
[5:04] <Scriven> lol, was just about to add that Triffid_Hunter ;)
[5:04] <Scriven> the only way the package manager doesn't manage your packages is if you add them by hand (without the package manager)...
[5:04] <terabit> if I wanted a car "back up camera" it would be a perfect choice :)
[5:04] <Scriven> apt-get is debian's package manager implementation.
[5:04] <terabit> I'll see if it works with android phone first though
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[5:05] <Scriven> terabit, they are excellent actually, I'm quite happy w/ my choice. And they will run happily as low as ~7V without modification, but not quite 5V...
[5:05] <\\Mr_C\\> thank you
[5:05] <Scriven> yw \\Mr_C\\
[5:06] <Triffid_Hunter> Scriven: heh if you pull a 3S down to 7v you already have a big problem
[5:06] <Scriven> Triffid_Hunter, lol, yeah I know. I was wondering if it would work on 2s too. lol
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[5:06] <Scriven> and it will. ;) but the 3S I'm using is ok for now.
[5:07] <Scriven> if I pull a 3s down to 7v, well, I hope it doesn't fail explosively. lol
[5:07] <Scriven> that's the only thing about lipos I don't like... bugger with them at all and 'explosive failure' is a possibility...
[5:08] <\\Mr_C\\> what is that install option for LAPTOP during the add setup thing
[5:08] <Scriven> esp. with no BMS running, just monitor on balance port.
[5:08] <Triffid_Hunter> Scriven: LiFePo doesn't have the 'explosive failure' feature fyi
[5:08] <Scriven> \\Mr_C\\, I'm not 100% sure, but I think it adds things like battery monitor and power management stuff.
[5:08] <Scriven> I didn't install it w/ mine.
[5:08] <\\Mr_C\\> ok, me neither
[5:09] <Scriven> Triffid_Hunter, really? I didn't realise that! I've got one of those running in my remote control transmitter, maybe I'll get more. ;)
[5:09] <Triffid_Hunter> Scriven: also undervoltage just causes a large and permanent reduction in capacity, shouldn't cause it to explode unless your charger is dumb and doesn't trickle it up to min. voltage before applying full charge current
[5:09] <Scriven> and "feature" FTW! lolol
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[5:09] <Scriven> my charger will deny it's existence if it gets too low, and it's not supposed to be a dumb one.
[5:10] <Triffid_Hunter> heh mine does that too.. I put it in ni-cd mode until the pack reaches min
[5:10] <Scriven> had one lipo drop to 0! and it was new. so I got a new one, but also learned that I could charge it like a nimh for 30 seconds, just until it hit minimum.
[5:10] <Scriven> yup. lol!
[5:10] <Scriven> we're joined at the brain tonight it seems. lol
[5:10] <Triffid_Hunter> yep. just remember to set the current to 0.1C or so else you risk aforementioned explosive failure
[5:11] <Scriven> yeah, mine was even lower than that, set to only .1A or something... slowly slowly trickle.
[5:11] <Scriven> safe in it's charging bag, with me well away, lol
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[5:12] <Triffid_Hunter> bag? heh I just put on concrete floor
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[5:12] <Scriven> yeah, one similar to this: http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__27105__Lipoly_Charge_Bag_23_x_30cm.html
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[5:13] <Scriven> in fact, this one exactly: http://hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4364
[5:13] <Scriven> the balcony where I charge is concrete, but it's also full of flammable 'stuff', and I'm not sure the radius of the 'explosive failure'.
[5:14] <Scriven> Better safe than sorry I figure. ;)
[5:14] <Triffid_Hunter> yeah, also don't want it to leap off the balcony and fall on someone, that would be a massive legal nightmare
[5:15] <Scriven> yeah, that too! and the strata already hates my hippie ... butt. lol
[5:16] <Scriven> what with my friends with 'ugly' electric bikes, and my penchant for political statements in window crayon. ;)
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[5:17] * chupacabra has a 2 stroke gas bike. huffy
[5:17] <Scriven> ok, that's about the funniest email evar. someone wants to test an implementation of RFC6214. I'll lead the googling to the interested reader. ;)
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[5:19] <Foxhoundz> my raspberrypi won't boot
[5:19] <Foxhoundz> it only shows the red light
[5:19] <Triffid_Hunter> Scriven: cpip6 eh.. well that's to be expected I suppose
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[5:19] <Foxhoundz> no output on RCA yellow video
[5:19] <chupacabra> bad card
[5:20] <chupacabra> prolly not set up right
[5:20] <Scriven> chupacabra, cool BTW, I've never been much into gas bikes. ;)
[5:21] <Foxhoundz> it was working correctly. I was compiling node.js on it
[5:21] <Foxhoundz> it froze
[5:21] <Triffid_Hunter> I have an electric on my shopping list.. I plan to make it a series hybrid though
[5:21] <Foxhoundz> so I unplugged it
[5:21] <chupacabra> im all about 2 stroke bikes
[5:21] <Triffid_Hunter> energy density of batteries is simply too poor for my liking
[5:21] <chupacabra> stole my first one in 72
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[5:28] <Scriven> Foxhoundz, did you test the SD card in another pc? maybe it has file system issues that need to be corrected?
[5:28] <Foxhoundz> Scriven: test in as in what?
[5:29] <Foxhoundz> test it *
[5:29] <Scriven> Triffid_Hunter, yeah, that is a problem for larger vehicles or long trips.
[5:29] <Foxhoundz> the image shows up correctly when I put it in my laptop
[5:29] <Foxhoundz> and this was a freshly made image of the latest available debian
[5:29] <Scriven> Foxhoundz, try and mount it in another machine, or just plug it in and check the filesystem.
[5:30] <Scriven> if you have another sd, maybe try a 2nd in the pi? hopefully the pi's not fried... doesn't sound like you've done anything to it that should have caused it.
[5:30] <Scriven> obviously don't check the file system while it's mounted... most won't let you however.
[5:30] <Foxhoundz> I think the error occured after it froze compiling some C++ files
[5:30] <Foxhoundz> I unplugged it
[5:30] <Foxhoundz> without properly flushing data into the sd card
[5:30] <Scriven> chupacabra, damn, one of the few here older than me! lol
[5:30] <Foxhoundz> then again, I had no other choice
[5:32] <Scriven> yeah, I've had to do that too, haven't had any catostrophic issues though.
[5:32] * Scriven knocks on wood just in case
[5:33] <Foxhoundz> wow
[5:33] <Foxhoundz> I managed to start it up
[5:33] <Foxhoundz> ...and kernel panic
[5:33] <Foxhoundz> lots of filesystem errors
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[5:34] <Foxhoundz> it looks like I corrupted it
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[5:42] <Scriven> try the fsck on another system. I've had that fix enough to boot, or at least recover files and start over from not-quite scratch
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[5:54] <Foxhoundz> looks like the problem is more sinister than it may have seemed at first
[5:54] <Foxhoundz> the contact terminals on the SD card doesn't get a snug fit when inserted
[5:56] <Scriven> can't help w/ that one, sorry. good luck Foxhoundz ! :(
[5:57] <Foxhoundz> oh
[5:57] <Foxhoundz> this looks like a design flaw more than anything
[5:57] <Foxhoundz> it will affect you someday as well
[5:57] <Foxhoundz> :
[5:57] <Foxhoundz> :(
[5:59] <Foxhoundz> I need to find an ARM version of node.js
[6:00] <Foxhoundz> I don't think the pi can handle the stress of compiling it
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[6:05] <chithead> I have compiled gcc, icedtea, webkit, ... on the pi, no reason why node.js should be different
[6:07] <Foxhoundz> chithead: would you compile it for me and send me the install package? :3
[6:08] <chithead> I guess I can send you the gentoo package, but it won't be useful if you run a different distro
[6:08] <Foxhoundz> oh
[6:08] <Foxhoundz> gentoo :(
[6:09] <Sulfuric> So, is it possible to take two raspberri pi's, and link them together so they act as one machine
[6:11] <pksato> Sulfuric: no. and Yes.
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[6:12] <Sulfuric> im wondering aout just sticking it in my pc
[6:12] <pksato> You can build a cluster like system.
[6:12] <Sulfuric> just stack two together and plug it inside my pc
[6:13] <clever> Foxhoundz: i had no trouble compiling node on my pi, 256mb model
[6:13] <pksato> like it http://www.zdnet.com/raspberry-pi-meets-lego-in-supercomputer-like-cluster-photos-7000004209/
[6:13] <clever> i think i had to enable swap, but it wasnt that complicated
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[6:15] <clever> pksato: i think the biggest bottleneck in that system is the usb interface
[6:15] <pksato> yes.
[6:15] <clever> in theory, i think you can connect the camera interface to the lcd interface
[6:15] <clever> on 2 seperate pi's
[6:16] <clever> then with custom gpu firmware, make a high speed bus between them
[6:16] <sam_nazarko> I have a camera module, would be nice if you could do this
[6:16] <sam_nazarko> you could use two separate cameras for real-time 3D
[6:17] <clever> the lcd port is output only as far as i know
[6:17] <clever> and the camera port is input only
[6:17] <sam_nazarko> yes
[6:17] <clever> but nothing says it has to be used for a display and camera, its just data
[6:17] <pksato> no. dsi have a (one) bidirection lines.
[6:18] <clever> pksato: how high of a bitrate can that lane get by itself?
[6:18] <pksato> but, ordinary peoplo dont have access to complet gpu datasheet.
[6:18] <clever> compared to the camera?
[6:19] <clever> yeah, thats the main issue
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[6:19] <sam_nazarko> Not measured in bitrate
[6:19] <sam_nazarko> ISP does 20MP at 220Mp/sec
[6:20] <clever> 220 million pixels per sec?
[6:20] <sam_nazarko> Yes
[6:20] <clever> if thats 8 bits per color channel, then just 220*3 million bytes per sec
[6:20] <clever> roughtly 660mbyte/sec
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[6:21] <sam_nazarko> * 8 for the gigabit
[6:21] <sam_nazarko> About 5gbit
[6:21] <clever> much better then a 100mbit over ethernet
[6:21] <clever> over usb*
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[6:21] <sam_nazarko> I have used the camera with mplayer for live streaming video
[6:22] <sam_nazarko> now that my camera finally works
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[6:22] <sam_nazarko> quite nice
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[6:23] <clever> hmmm, it would need custom hardware, but you could cheat massively
[6:23] <clever> if you had an fpga claiming to be a 20MP camera, but putting every single bit of the 'image' to use as normal data
[6:23] <clever> you could pump bytes into the pi insanely fast
[6:24] <clever> then you just need to get the uncompressed, unprocessed frames out of the gpu
[6:24] <clever> no need for gpu datasheets
[6:24] <clever> but not as simple as just hooking DSI -> CSI thru a pin adapter
[6:25] <clever> but it does solve the issue of routing, you can put a switch into the fpga
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[6:29] <Foxhoundz> weird
[6:29] <Foxhoundz> node.js is already in the apt-get repo
[6:29] <Foxhoundz> why was I trying to compile it
[6:30] <clever> it is?, lol
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[6:31] <clever> it wasnt there when i looked
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[6:37] <clever> sam_nazarko: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=38790&p=323108
[6:37] <sam_nazarko> waiting for it to load
[6:37] <sam_nazarko> pi site seems slow to respond
[6:38] <clever> yeah, took almost 5 minutes to find it
[6:38] <sam_nazarko> ddosed probably
[6:38] <sam_nazarko> :/
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[6:42] <MrTrick> Okay, I have my RPi attached to my windows PC via ethernet. This works fine, but when I switch ICS on (because I need to download packages), I can't find the RPi (don't know what the address is)
[6:42] <MrTrick> Any suggestions on finding it, or on alternate setups?
[6:43] <clever> MrTrick: any serial console access?
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[6:43] <MrTrick> not currently, no.
[6:43] <clever> thats my only idea currently
[6:43] <MrTrick> And I don't have a USB keyboard handy, and to set up a monitor involves hooking up my TV.
[6:43] * MrTrick installs wireshark
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[6:44] <Scriven> MrTrick, can't you ask your dhcp server what address it gave the pi?
[6:45] <Scriven> otherwise, how do you know the pi is working if you can't talk to it?
[6:45] <MrTrick> Scriven: Have searched for how to find that, but windows ICS is very fisher-price'y - on/off button, no other options.
[6:45] <MrTrick> When I don't have ICS switched on, the RPi uses the static fallback address I've configured into it.
[6:46] <clever> cant connect the pi directly to your router?
[6:46] <MrTrick> yes, but it *waves* is all the way over there, and I need to work in the vicinity of the pi.
[6:46] <pksato> ICS? Internet Connection Sharing of windows?
[6:46] <Scriven> pksato, I just googled that too. lol
[6:47] <Scriven> but if ics doesn't include dhcp server, shouldn't the pi use the same ip?
[6:47] <MrTrick> it does have a dhcp server in it.
[6:47] <clever> Scriven: it has dhcp and NAT built in
[6:47] <clever> but the ui is idiot proof
[6:47] <Scriven> oic.
[6:47] <clever> on/off button, thats it
[6:47] <pksato> ICS have a dhcpserver
[6:47] <Scriven> so it will provice dhcp but won't actually tell you where everything is?
[6:47] <Scriven> that's stupid.
[6:47] <MrTrick> pksato: yes, but no way to query it.
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[6:47] <clever> Scriven: its 'idiot friendly'
[6:47] <clever> dont confuse them with 'un-needed' info
[6:47] <Scriven> yeah, not even cause it's hobbled
[6:48] <MrTrick> "How to find the client address; Go to the client, look at what it says"
[6:48] <pksato> open a prompt, and try arp
[6:48] <clever> MrTrick: do you have a second laptop?
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[6:48] <Scriven> MrTrick, easy way is to just start pinging each ip in order.
[6:48] <MrTrick> I do...
[6:48] <clever> MrTrick: turn its wifi off, hook it up in place of the pi, and do what you just pasted, 14 01:48:02 < MrTrick> "How to find the client address; Go to the client, look at what it says"
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[6:48] <Scriven> clever, ics doesn't do mac-address differences?
[6:48] <clever> that will tell you what ip range its giving out, and may even give you the same ip (or atleast a nearby one)
[6:49] <clever> Scriven: nearly all dhcp servers are configured to give out an ip in a limited range, like 192.168.1. 100-150
[6:49] <Scriven> ah.... not even the same range as windows box? Wow.... that's just beyond silly.
[6:49] <clever> once you know the range, and the starting number, you can just blindly ping a few in that zone
[6:49] <Scriven> i'm so glad I don't screw with that stuff. lol
[6:49] <MrTrick> I wonder if I should bridge them instead...
[6:49] <clever> Scriven: NAT requires the 2nd network to be on a different block
[6:49] <clever> MrTrick: yeah, bridging would be much simpler
[6:50] <Scriven> clever, yeah that's true enough.
[6:50] <Scriven> ok, I'm out for the night. good luck MrTrick ;)
[6:50] <MrTrick> thanks Scriven
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[6:55] <MrTrick> Aha, found it! .... o_O
[6:56] <clever> yep, pretty random
[6:57] <MrTrick> The 137.x was pretty easy to find, but I expected something sane like .2, .10, .100 or something.
[6:57] <clever> yeah, the 137 part can be found via the windows pc
[6:57] <clever> whatever ip its currently using on that interface
[6:57] <clever> this is where nmap can come in handy
[6:57] <MrTrick> right, back to what I was doing in the FIRST place. (damn yak shaving)
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[6:58] <clever> nmap
[6:58] <clever> :D
[6:58] <MrTrick> yeah, downloaded wireshark, but that was taking a while so I found an 'ip scanner' application.
[6:58] <clever> wireshark is more overkill
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[7:00] <clever> bridging would be simpler, same subnet for both ends
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[7:04] <MrTrick> in a way, yes. I applied bridging before though and my host lost its internet connection.
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[8:58] <caesius> I need to display my laptop (VGA) on a TV with only composite, can I use RaPi to
[8:59] <caesius> "stream" my desktop session to the TV?
[8:59] <caesius> I was thinking ssh -X/Y, but this may be too slow?
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[9:22] <gordonDrogon> morning.
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[9:30] <Xpl01t> Can someone try to play this streaming on omxplayer? ( http://play2go.tv/live/flowplayer.html?stream=TVnovotempo )
[9:31] <Xpl01t> If you look to the page source code, you will find that: rtmp://play2go.tv:1935/live
[9:31] <Xpl01t> anyone?
[9:31] <Xpl01t> :(
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[9:50] <rymate1234> ChauffeR, boo
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[9:54] <shiftplusone> Anyone use SparkleShare? (Not on a pi, in general)
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[9:59] <weltall> it's not a good idea
[10:00] <weltall> it's essentially automatic git of a folder, but git is not a good idea for binary files
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[10:00] <shiftplusone> Is there anything better?
[10:00] <shiftplusone> (That you can host yourself and encrypt)
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[10:05] <weltall> if you ask me only proprietary solutions which you cannot host yoursef. the most decent one, even though not decent enough for me, is owncloud
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[10:06] <weltall> else network based file systems
[10:06] <shiftplusone> Yup, fair enough.
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[10:13] <ChauffeR> hi rymate1234
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[10:22] <Xpl01t> Can someone try to play this streaming on omxplayer? ( http://play2go.tv/live/flowplayer.html?stream=TVnovotempo )
[10:22] <Xpl01t> If you look to the page source code, you will find that: rtmp://play2go.tv:1935/live
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[10:38] <IalexI> is sd card corruption a common problem of rpis, even if you shutdown correctly?
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[10:39] <shiftplusone> In uncommon cases it is common for some people.
[10:41] <rymate1234> do you overclock?
[10:44] <IalexI> rymate1234, actually, yes, but I have found posts of people who don't oc, shutdown properly, even use a readonly fs and still encounter problems
[10:44] <rymate1234> huh
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[10:45] <IalexI> I had only once sd card corruption with the "turbo oc setting" (1 ghz/600 mhz ram) .. I have now decreased this to "high" (950 mhz/500 mhz ram)
[10:45] <IalexI> I also use a readonly root fs
[10:46] <IalexI> I really wonder how corruption on a readonly fs is possible at all..
[10:46] <SpeedEvil> read errors
[10:47] <IalexI> SpeedEvil, the fs was really broken.. I couldn't even read it on my pc
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[10:47] <SpeedEvil> odd
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[10:49] <ParkerR> Well at least it works http://i.imgur.com/OLgm4Yv.jpg
[10:50] <JohannesG> ParkerR, that computer in the middle, is that the acer c7 chromebook?
[10:50] <ParkerR> Yep
[10:50] <ParkerR> Being controller with Synergy
[10:50] <JohannesG> sweet! i've been looking for someone that owns one and uses it for linux. I'm considering buying one this week
[10:50] <ParkerR> *controlled
[10:51] <JohannesG> ah yeah, that was exactly my plan! haha :D
[10:51] <JohannesG> are you running chrubuntu on it or?
[10:51] <ParkerR> Over a short ethernet cable
[10:51] <ParkerR> Yep
[10:51] <ParkerR> 13.04
[10:51] <ParkerR> Latency is little to none
[10:51] <MrTrick> Anyone here done i2c programming in C?
[10:51] <JohannesG> how is 1080p youtube video on it?
[10:51] <ParkerR> Using XBMC its decent
[10:52] <MrTrick> Do you know if you're meant to ioctl every time you talk to a different slave device?
[10:52] <JohannesG> so, it's a "usable" computer?
[10:52] <ParkerR> About the most itll handle in flash on youtube.com is 720p
[10:52] <ParkerR> Very much so
[10:52] <JohannesG> ah, that should be enough for me
[10:52] <JohannesG> any flaws? things you dislike?
[10:52] <JohannesG> any problems getting things to work?
[10:52] <ParkerR> Battery life but I use it a bit so I kinda expected that
[10:53] <ParkerR> JohannesG, http://imgur.com/a/mbkUf
[10:53] <JohannesG> ah yeah, i've heard that. I am used to dead batteries that last for 10 minutes so I think i'll be fine. :P (although I heard somewhere you can buy a better battery that should make it last up to 6 hours)
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[10:54] <IalexI> What kind of cpu is in the chromebook?
[10:54] <ParkerR> I get about 3 good hours out of it if I just use it for web and IRC
[10:54] <ParkerR> Celeron Dual Core
[10:54] <ParkerR> 1.10ghz
[10:55] <JohannesG> wow, i didn't even expect that this thing could run games. let along 3d games through wine
[10:55] <IalexI> ParkerR, really? but this must be an old model.. its not the sandy/ivy bridge generation?
[10:55] <ParkerR> It is
[10:55] <JohannesG> what window manager / de is that btw?
[10:55] <ParkerR> The sandybridge
[10:55] <ParkerR> oepnbox
[10:56] <ParkerR> For the DM and WM
[10:56] <ParkerR> *openbox
[10:56] <JohannesG> ah, i've heard of that before. (i'm still not a full time linux user)
[10:57] <JohannesG> open box goes on my list then. Although I do like Unity something tells me that having a more lightweight DE/WM on that machine is a good idea :P
[10:57] <ParkerR> Graphics: Card: Intel 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller
[10:57] <ParkerR> X.Org 1.13.3 drivers intel (unloaded: fbdev,vesa) Resolution 1360x768@59.8hz
[10:57] <ParkerR> GLX Renderer Mesa DRI Intel Sandybridge Mobile GLX Version 3.0 Mesa 9.0.3
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[10:58] <ParkerR> So yeah its the sandybridge
[10:58] <ParkerR> Not the slight updated model they released not too long ago
[10:59] <JohannesG> I can't wait to get mine. Was actually going to buy it upfront last friday but I couldn't find it anywhere in my town so I will need to order it :(
[10:59] <Triffid_Hunter> JohannesG: I use lxde/openbox on my laptop.. don't need all the candy with corresponding ram usage that larger DEs give ;)
[10:59] <JohannesG> hehe, indeed
[11:00] <ParkerR> JohannesG, Nest Buy sells it
[11:00] <ParkerR> *Best Buy
[11:00] <JohannesG> ParkerR, there's no Best Buy in my country ;)
[11:00] <ParkerR> Heh
[11:00] <JohannesG> or at least, i've never seen one at least
[11:00] <JohannesG> (Sweden/Iceland)
[11:01] <ParkerR> Hello from the US of A
[11:01] <JohannesG> most definitely not in Iceland at least, haha.
[11:01] <JohannesG> hello from Europe!
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[11:01] <JohannesG> well, and America sort of given the fact that my half of Iceland is actually on the north american tectonic plate ;)
[11:02] <JohannesG> thanks for the great info on the Acer C7, ParkerR!
[11:03] <ParkerR> No problem
[11:03] <ParkerR> Amazing for the price
[11:03] <JohannesG> That Acer is going to be my first primarily Linux machine (i'm a longtime mac user)
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[11:03] <JohannesG> exactly, i've been looking for a computer in that price range (and quality range) for years
[11:03] <ParkerR> Well its good quality but its still made by Acer
[11:03] <ParkerR> XD
[11:04] <JohannesG> Acer is what I call quality crap
[11:04] <ParkerR> ^
[11:04] <dividedbyzer0> Quality dag shite.
[11:04] <JohannesG> my father has a 500 or 600 dollar Acer laptop that is probably 8-10 years old now, and it's still working
[11:05] <JohannesG> and if it breaks down, oh well, just get another one.
[11:05] <dividedbyzer0> Very true.
[11:05] <JohannesG> I on the other hand, spent shitload of money on a macbook pro back in 2008. If it breaks down then fuck??? :P
[11:05] <x29a> nope, you can still sell it, people are crazy with mac products and prices
[11:06] <JohannesG> i feel bad every time I put it in my bag. There's something wrong about having that expensive laptop in your bag
[11:07] <JohannesG> well, this one is beyond selling. It's quite dented and the screen is dying
[11:07] <JohannesG> and the backlighting on the keyboard, and loads of other things, haha
[11:07] <JohannesG> oh, and the CD drive
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[11:08] <dividedbyzer0> Jesus.
[11:08] <JohannesG> oh, and I desecrated the apple logo on the front ;)
[11:08] <JohannesG> so it's probably worthless now ;)
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[11:09] <IalexI> JohannesG, do you want to sell it? ;)
[11:09] <dividedbyzer0> Hey, hey. If he's selling, I'm buying. :o
[11:09] <JohannesG> IalexI, i will sell it once Linux will have proper sound design software / DAW's
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[11:09] <JohannesG> so start coding
[11:10] <IalexI> dividedbyzer0, nono, he is selling it to me :p
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[11:10] <JohannesG> if you guys give me a up to par DAW for linux you can get it for free. ;)
[11:10] <dividedbyzer0> O:
[11:10] <IalexI> JohannesG, last time I was in a big super market where they sold easter eggs (after easter). the ad was: 50% discount, now 0.00 Euro :p
[11:11] <JohannesG> lol
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[11:11] <IalexI> JohannesG, so, if you give me 50% discount on your worthless mac, we have a deal ;)
[11:11] <JohannesG> hahaha
[11:11] <ParkerR> :/ VPS is freaking out
[11:11] <ParkerR> What'd I miss
[11:12] <dividedbyzer0> Shall give you over 9,000 for this worthless thing.
[11:12] <dividedbyzer0> 9,000 half pennies.
[11:12] <JohannesG> the shipping of all those pennies over the atlantic ocean might be more expensive than a new mac ;)
[11:13] <dividedbyzer0> More than likely. haha
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[11:14] <dividedbyzer0> Next computer I'm buying is $35.00. If you want to sell me your mac for $35.00, then we have a deal.
[11:15] <JohannesG> haha, nah.
[11:15] <Triffid_Hunter> dividedbyzer0: heh is that incl. screen, keyboard, mouse, power supply, case? ;)
[11:16] <dividedbyzer0> No.
[11:16] <dividedbyzer0> I believe I have all of that lying around.
[11:17] <ParkerR> I tried the Pi as a serious computer... then I found the Acer C7 XD
[11:18] <JohannesG> :D
[11:18] <JohannesG> i wish my profession allowed me to use such low power devices as serious computers :(
[11:18] <JohannesG> the Acer C7 will only serve to take off workload off my main computer so I can use that for work primarily
[11:19] <JohannesG> in other words, the Acer will be reserved for irc chat and kitten videos on youtube
[11:19] <JohannesG> (and of course mobility)
[11:19] <dividedbyzer0> Lol
[11:20] <dividedbyzer0> How is the C7?
[11:20] <JohannesG> ParkerR seems to think it's bloody nice. I will find out later this week :)
[11:20] <JohannesG> ordering it tomorrow
[11:21] <dividedbyzer0> Let me know, I might try it out.
[11:21] * MrTrick is wondering how this EOMA68 form factor would work...
[11:21] <MrTrick> and if you could shoehorn an RPi into it... (redesign the PCB of course, and push some stuff out to a daughterboard)
[11:23] <JohannesG> dividedbyzer0, if you scroll up you can see some photos and screenshots of the C7 in action that ParkerR linked. (along with some chat between us about it)
[11:23] <MrTrick> are the RPi's design schematics open-source?
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[11:23] <dividedbyzer0> Ah, that's not up there. I came in late.
[11:24] <Triffid_Hunter> MrTrick: not to my knowledge
[11:24] <ParkerR> http://i.imgur.com/OLgm4Yv.jpg
[11:24] <ParkerR> http://imgur.com/a/mbkUf
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[11:27] <dividedbyzer0> Pretty nice, ParkeR.
[11:29] <JohannesG> oh and our little chat also noted that battery life is probably the only problem. (it can be rather short compared to netbooks, but you can upgrade it)
[11:29] <ParkerR> :O
[11:29] <ParkerR> ssh -X
[11:29] <ParkerR> Over this link only ethernet connnection
[11:29] <JohannesG> oh, and 720p youtube videos seem to be limit when it comes to youtube videos
[11:29] <ParkerR> So fast
[11:29] <JohannesG> haha, sweet
[11:29] <Triffid_Hunter> I prefer -Y, it skips all the crazy xauth shenanigans
[11:30] <ParkerR> And to top that all off Im using windows to view it
[11:31] <ParkerR> http://i.minus.com/iTFIt8Zzarg2p.png
[11:31] <ParkerR> cygwin is amazing
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[11:31] <JohannesG> :D
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[11:32] <dividedbyzer0> Fan on the computer I have know sounds like it has been smoking for thirty years.
[11:32] <JohannesG> speaking of which
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[11:32] <JohannesG> ParkerR, how's the fan on the Acer, loud?
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[11:34] <ParkerR> Not at all
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[11:35] <JohannesG> :)
[11:35] <ParkerR> You can hear it a little but never over anything else
[11:35] <ParkerR> nd thats only when your using the CPU a little bit
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[11:36] <Xpl01t> Can someone try to play this streaming on omxplayer? ( http://play2go.tv/live/flowplayer.html?stream=TVnovotempo )
[11:36] <Xpl01t> If you look to the page source code, you will find that: rtmp://play2go.tv:1935/live
[11:36] <mgottschlag> anybody can tell me why on atm the stack trace after a c++ exception only contains 4 call frames deep within the c++ standard lib and stops with "Backtrace stopped: previous frame identical to this frame (corrupt stack?)"?
[11:37] <mgottschlag> s/atm/raspbian, still sleepy
[11:37] <mgottschlag> or wait, I wanted to write arm
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[11:40] <BlueMint> is installing the rasbian.img to the SD card the same as installing windows7.img to a usb?
[11:40] <ParkerR> http://i.minus.com/ibyBdkl6xY1Qsb.png
[11:42] <dividedbyzer0> I can't believe it is 5:42.
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[12:01] <pepee> hi. if you use the RPi with a hub, and connect other devices to the hub, can you control them from the RPi?
[12:01] <Triffid_Hunter> pepee: um yes that's exactly what hubs are designed to do
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[12:02] <pepee> well, I had a doubt, since it would be powering the RPi while controlling the other devices...
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[12:04] <Triffid_Hunter> pepee: planning to back-power the pi from a hub's uplink port? it does work I'm told
[12:05] <pepee> *active hub
[12:05] <kaste> sounds bound to fail
[12:06] <pepee> should work that way, no? I'm not sure, I never got a RPi
[12:06] <gordonDrogon> pepee, you should power the Pi via the microUSB socket, so a standard USB to microUSB cable will work to power the Pi, but if the hub comes with an uplink cable (all do) which also provides power (they shouldn't, but most do) and you have a Rev 2 Pi then it will work.
[12:06] <gordonDrogon> I have a Pi sirring on my desk powered just like that
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[12:07] <Triffid_Hunter> I power my pi through the gpio port.. too many flaky usb cables around for my liking
[12:07] <pepee> not sure what's an uplink cable, I guess it's the same as OTG?
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[12:07] <pepee> googling...
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[12:08] <gordonDrogon> the cable you'd plug into your PC/Pi to get it to talk to the hub and its peripherals.
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[12:08] <pepee> ah, yeah, heh
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[12:12] <pepee> ok, understood, that's exactly what I needed to know. thanks gordonDrogon
[12:12] <pepee> also Triffid_Hunter and kaste
[12:13] <gordonDrogon> since you don't yet have a Pi, you'll be getting a Rev 2 when you get one, but if you ever get an older Rev 1, then it's not possible to power via the main USB sockets due to the polyfuses.
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[12:23] <pepee> anyone from chile?
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[12:24] <gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Any chance of a combined multi-byte read in WiringPi I2C? for I2C ADCs?
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[12:25] <pepee> wondering if I can find RPis in this little country at a fair price...
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[12:26] <pepee> I just found one for $70 :(
[12:26] <gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: I tried to duplicate the functionality from quick2wire into a C library, but failed extremely miserably
[12:26] <pepee> err, 80...
[12:27] <Triffid_Hunter> pepee: I got mine from adafruit as a bonus gift with a large purchase
[12:27] <Triffid_Hunter> they ship internationally :)
[12:27] <pepee> uhm, interesting, $40 for a model B, in chile!
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[12:28] <Triffid_Hunter> pepee: you're in chile, or nearby?
[12:28] <pepee> chile
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[12:29] <pepee> although I could buy in argentina too, but I would have to wait months...
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[12:31] <pepee> where are you from, Triffid_Hunter ?
[12:31] <Triffid_Hunter> pepee: Australia
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[12:34] <gordonDrogon> gadgetoid, I'll have a look, but off out again for most of the day.
[12:34] <gordonDrogon> gadgetoid, it really is nothing more than a ewrapper round the standard read() system call though.
[12:35] <gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Yeah, but I'm still finding it hard to get things working??? managed to crash my Pi, and that's about it!
[12:35] <pepee> this is getting interesting... I gotta admit, I never thought about buying a RPi...
[12:35] <Triffid_Hunter> pepee: what are you planning to do with it?
[12:36] <pepee> Triffid_Hunter, webserver, router or something like that
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[12:36] <pepee> the GPU is of no use for me, but I guess I can find some use for it, heh
[12:37] <gadgetoid> Anyway, I'm on my way out now! will talk latet
[12:39] <Triffid_Hunter> pepee: will make a pretty slow webserver.. should be great for routing
[12:40] <pepee> slow? even when caching, etc.?
[12:40] <clever> depends on what type of content you want to host
[12:40] <pepee> heh, people are mining litecoins on it...
[12:41] <pepee> a lightweight website
[12:42] <pepee> written in php...
[12:42] <clever> might run ok then
[12:43] <clever> as long as the php is simple and traffic is low
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[12:43] <pepee> well, my smartphone can do it just fine...
[12:44] <pepee> my router doesn't have enough space for it, lol
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[13:18] <ladoga> pepee: it's a nice little web server..cheap and quiet:)
[13:21] <ladoga> as long as trffi
[13:21] <ladoga> traffic stays low*
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[13:23] <clever> i might look at making mine into a dev system for one of my websites, replace the netbook i was using
[13:24] <ladoga> also perfect for running screen+irssi and other stuff which needs continuous uptime
[13:24] <clever> except i reboot my pi often to test android on it
[13:24] <clever> and ive got 5 desktops downstairs that are on 24/7 anyways
[13:25] <clever> simpler (for me) to just stick irssi on one of them
[13:25] <pepee> ladoga, cool!
[13:25] <ladoga> mine has been running a while http://raspi.dy.fi/ladoga/cpustat.png
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[13:25] <clever> ladoga: nice uptime
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[13:27] <pepee> well, there are no units, no discount, no nothing. this was old news.. :(
[13:29] <ladoga> pepee: why not order from some international seller?
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[13:29] <pepee> because it wouldn't be that cheap, and the mail in this country is far from reliable...
[13:30] <pepee> there is rsdelivers, but they say they will get some RPis soon, for $60 (model B)
[13:31] <JohannesG> ladoga, how do you make/get graphs like that?
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[13:32] <Triffid_Hunter> ladoga: I guess the 85c was a sensor glitch?
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[13:32] <ladoga> Triffid_Hunter: yes
[13:32] <ladoga> it does those once in a while
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[13:32] <ladoga> JohannesG: gnuplot
[13:33] <JohannesG> thanks
[13:33] <pepee> btw, how does the RPi compares to the chinese/korean PCs-on-a-stick?
[13:34] <ladoga> raspi has lot more I/O options
[13:34] <Triffid_Hunter> pepee: cpu is not as powerful as A10 but the support is better
[13:34] <lilalinux> sam_nazarko: did we chat yesterday?
[13:34] <ladoga> and better support/community too
[13:35] <pepee> yeah, all that is what I've seen
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[13:40] <clever> Triffid_Hunter: 85c from a ds18b20?
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[13:42] <clever> Triffid_Hunter: 85c isnt a random glitch in the ds18b20, thats the default value when you first power it on and dont do a conversion
[13:43] <clever> ladoga: ah, thats where Triffid_Hunter saw it, in the graph
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[13:51] <pepee> bye people, thank you!
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[14:48] <mad_dev> i just bought a realtek RTL8191S WLAN Adapter(usb) using the r871x_usb_drv driver. What should i place in the driver section of hostapd, because nl80211 raises failed to set interface wlan2 into AP mode? Thank you in advance
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[15:10] <NetBat> afternoon Pi pickers.
[15:11] <ladoga> JohannesG: good i looked at the graph. i began wondering why the load average was so high (0.3ish) and i noticed there was some chinese hosts trying to bruteforce my ssh password (looking at /var/log/auth.log)
[15:11] <ladoga> forgot to run denyhosts:)
[15:12] <JohannesG> lol
[15:13] <JohannesG> oh.. maybe I should take a look also. I noticed some weird network activity the other day which my router labeled as ddos attack
[15:13] <ladoga> but now it's ok...denyhosts blocked them all after few failed login attempts
[15:14] <ladoga> i think i should just remove password based login alltogether
[15:14] <clever> ladoga: you saw what i said about 85c?
[15:14] <JohannesG> http://denyhosts.sourceforge.net this thing I assume?
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[15:15] <ladoga> JohannesG: yes, i think so. i just apt-got it
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[15:15] <JohannesG> ah ok
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[15:15] <ladoga> clever: yes
[15:16] <ladoga> there's also random negative temperature values
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[15:17] <ladoga> from the log 2013.04.14 12:42 -843088.0 0.14
[15:17] <ladoga> so obiviously that's a glitch?
[15:17] <mad_dev> does anyone know if realtek RTL8191S wlan adapter is supported by hostapd.
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[15:17] <mad_dev> it uses r871_usb_drv driver
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[15:18] <ladoga> it's either that or 85??C for one entry and then returns to "real" value
[15:19] <ladoga> happens once or twice in two days when reading /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp every minute
[15:20] <ladoga> if temperature is used to trigger something it might cause problems
[15:20] <ladoga> otherwise quite harmless
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[15:21] <JohannesG> ladoga, http://xkcd.com/1172/ ;)
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[15:22] <clever> ladoga: the ds18b20 cant give values as low as -843088, so that must be an issue elsewhere
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[15:24] <ladoga> clever: here's what i use to get temp readings to the log: cputemp=`cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp | awk '{printf("%.1f\n", $1/1000); }'`
[15:25] <clever> not sure why that would turn up 85, thats more odd
[15:26] <clever> JohannesG: lol
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[15:27] <ladoga> yeah, quite fitting
[15:28] <ladoga> JohannesG: that latest I/O load spike is just apt-get upgrade btw.
[15:29] <JohannesG> ah ok
[15:29] <ladoga> one that goes thru the roof
[15:30] <ladoga> high load before that was brute force ssh break in attempt
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[16:50] <Encrypt> Does anyone of you know which voltage is considered as "high" (= 1) on the GPIO input pins?
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[16:53] <clever> Encrypt: 3.3v is the avg, not sure on the min/max
[16:53] <shiftplusone> That doesn't make sense
[16:53] <shiftplusone> I think he's asking what is the minimum that's considered a high
[16:54] <Encrypt> Yes :)
[16:54] <clever> yeah, dont know the min high
[16:54] <shiftplusone> 3.3v certainly wouldn't be the average
[16:54] <Encrypt> Since 3.3V is the maximum we can apply safely
[16:54] <clever> 3.3v would be the 'middle' of what it would accept as a logic high
[16:54] <Encrypt> Hum...
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[16:54] <clever> i'm sure you can go a bit over 3.3v, 3.31 wont instantly fry it
[16:54] <clever> so the max isnt 3.3v exactly
[16:54] <shiftplusone> A bit, but that doesn't make 3.3v the average.
[16:55] <shiftplusone> It would be the maximum recommended perhaps.
[16:55] <clever> yeah, more of a middle, and yeah, recomended
[16:55] <shiftplusone> Encrypt, I'd figure it out experimentally, since I am not sure that there is a proper datasheet for that sort of thing. Have you checked the peripherals datasheet?
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[16:56] <shiftplusone> Nope, not there
[16:56] <Encrypt> I found this: http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals
[16:57] <Encrypt> But I didn't find this information on the net for now...
[16:57] <mgottschlag> (just as a follow-up from ##electronics: "For the GPIO pin to determine if an input level is HIGH or LOW it has to detect that the voltage on the pin is above or below a set level, you should aim to set the pin to 10% of the logic voltage (HIGH for the RPi this is 3.3V - so 2.97V to 3.3V, LOW is 0V to 0.33V)." from the rpi website)
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[16:58] <Encrypt> mgottschlag, Where did you find it exactly?
[16:58] <mgottschlag> eatyourguitar @ ##electronics, wasn't me
[16:59] <Encrypt> Found.
[17:00] <shiftplusone> That's just a made up rough rule of thumb to follow, not any actual value.
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[17:20] <gyeben> hi
[17:20] <shiftplusone> hi
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[17:23] <gyeben> I'm trying to build supertux 0.3.3 but running "cmake .." gives the illegal instruction error
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[17:26] <shiftplusone> Just that?
[17:27] <gyeben> yes, just that
[17:27] <shiftplusone> Not much to go on then.
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[17:27] <shiftplusone> Though a quick google search shows supertux working fine, so it's possible.
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[18:21] <gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Ahoy! get any time to have a peek?
[18:22] <gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: I am effectively trying to port this: https://github.com/codebendercc/arduino-files/blob/master/extra-libraries/MCP3424/MCP3424.cpp
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[18:31] * gordonDrogon peeks./
[18:31] * DeliriumTremens piques
[18:33] <gordonDrogon> gadgetoid, looks easy enough - use the Gertboard ADC as a template?
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[18:36] <Dyskette> Well then. Pretty sure my SD card is failing.
[18:37] <Dyskette> Keep getting crashes on file read with terrible filesystem corruption.
[18:37] <Dyskette> Thankfully, a new SD card is cheap :D
[18:38] * Dyskette thinks back to her teen years and expensive harddrive failures, and shudders
[18:39] <gordonDrogon> maybe get one which isn't so cheap next time?
[18:39] <Dyskette> Heh :P
[18:39] <Dyskette> This was an okay card, actually. Even nice SD cards are cheap.
[18:39] <gordonDrogon> the only failures I've had on the Pi so-far, I'm pretty sure I can put down to voltage or overclocking issues. (other than the very early days when things were somewhat unstable anyway)
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[18:40] <gordonDrogon> still using the original SDs I bought over a year ago.
[18:40] <ivotkl> Hello everyone. =)
[18:40] <ivotkl> Scriven, you available?
[18:41] <Dyskette> Well, all consumer-grade storage has a certain failure rate.
[18:41] <Dyskette> I'm not too fussed.
[18:42] <Scriven> sort of ivotkl. have to hit the shower soon.
[18:42] <Scriven> the dreadlocks don't wash themselves. ;)
[18:42] <Dyskette> (And it's been in constant use for over a year, so it's not entirely unheard of or anything)
[18:42] <ivotkl> Oh, don't worry then. =P
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[18:42] <ivotkl> Nice!
[18:42] <Scriven> gonna be 10 years without a hair cut soon.
[18:43] <ivotkl> Congrats!
[18:43] <Scriven> Thanks, my wife doesn't congrats me about it tho. lol!
[18:43] <ivotkl> Okey, talk later I guess. I am cooking anyway so I'm not that available either.
[18:43] <ivotkl> Hahaha. Well, thank Korn for that. (?)
[18:43] <ivotkl> Well, back to Pi (for everyone else that is currently available).
[18:43] <Scriven> Did you get the network up and running?
[18:44] <ivotkl> Still trying to flash dd-wrt thingie.
[18:44] <ivotkl> Hehehe.
[18:44] <ivotkl> And I was in bed reading and my eyes were closing, so...
[18:44] <ivotkl> Now I'm locked and loaded again. =P
[18:44] <Scriven> yeah, no point doing it tired.
[18:44] <Scriven> I STILL dislike flashing firmware... memories of bios updates gone wrong. lol
[18:45] <ivotkl> Hahaha. Well, we have to make mistakes sometimes to learn. Even if it envolves throwing away a piece of hardware worth 100 USD or more. =P
[18:45] <gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Aha, didn't know there was a gertboard ADC I could use as a template!
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[18:46] <ivotkl> Anyone knows if B board will have its camera available soon? I've read A board has one that is actually pretty cool.
[18:46] <gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: Although it uses SPI instead of I2C
[18:47] <Scriven> camera's available already I thought.
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[18:47] <Scriven> and I thought they were the same camera, a $25 upgrade/addition?
[18:47] <ivotkl> Oh, but is compatible for both boards?
[18:47] * Scriven may be wrong tho.
[18:47] <Scriven> IIRC, yes.
[18:48] <ivotkl> Don't know. Maybe piece of news I've read was miss leading in that part.
[18:48] <gordonDrogon> gadgetoid, yes, it's SPI - I meant as a template to write the interface function.
[18:48] <Scriven> IIRC the differences between A and B are ethernet and such, but not 'core' stuff like camera.
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> I'm fairly sure the Model A board is the same as the Rev 2 model B board with respect the the camera.
[18:49] <gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: I just seem to be unable to get a multibyte value from the IC over I2C using WiringPi, although Quick2Wire does it fairly simply
[18:50] <ivotkl> Great.
[18:50] <Scriven> ok, time to clean. BBIAB. ;)
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[18:50] <Scriven> gl ivotkl !
[18:51] <ivotkl> Thanks Scriven. You too. I think you'll need it to have the dreadlocks dust free, hehe.
[18:51] <Scriven> once-a-week whether they need it or not! :D
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[18:56] <gordonDrogon> gadgetoid, hang on - I'll check. I have done this before.
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[18:57] <gordonDrogon> gadgetoid, you just need to call read() or call wiringPiI2CRead() multiple times.
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[18:58] <_21h_> strange.. some time ago drogon wrote ds1302.c for wiringpi and now i cant find it
[18:58] <gordonDrogon> gadgetoid, see http://unicorn.drogon.net/pfc8356.c for something that uses read()
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[18:59] <gordonDrogon> _21h_, http://unicorn.drogon.net/ds1302.tar
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> however it's in wiringPi v2.
[18:59] <_21h_> gordonDrogon: do you removed ds1302.c from wiringpi? i cant get it from git
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> _21h_, it was never in the GIT repository.
[19:00] <_21h_> O_o why?
[19:00] <gordonDrogon> because I never put it in.
[19:00] <gordonDrogon> I haven't updated the public version of wiringPi for some time now - been working on v2.
[19:00] <gadgetoid> gordonDrogon: cheers, I'll take a look!
[19:00] <gordonDrogon> and I keep trying to push that out, but keep getting other stuff to do )-:
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> the past week I've spent arranging some family stuff involving trying to get my father back to the UK and my in-laws 50th wedding anniversary party (cooking/baking!)
[19:04] <chupacabra> how did the thather party go on Sat?
[19:04] <chupacabra> thatcher
[19:06] <chupacabra> is that too OT?
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[19:14] <Tykling> so I went and bought the mpeg license, paid and got the confirmation email, but where do I get the actual license ?
[19:14] <jelly1> via e-mail
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[19:15] <jelly1> Tykling: don't ask me when, but I heard you get it via e-mail
[19:15] <jelly1> ;)
[19:16] <Tykling> I see
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[19:19] <Tykling> jelly1: when ? ;)
[19:20] <shiftplusone> Tykling, eventually. Don't hold your breath
[19:21] <Tykling> ok then, manual processing involved huh ?
[19:21] <shiftplusone> yup
[19:21] <Tykling> right, thanks
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[19:23] <gyeben> wow, somehow I damaged my raspbian system SO much that I can't login and the log gets flooded with lots of "illegal instruction" error
[19:23] <shiftplusone> What did you do?
[19:23] <gordonDrogon> gyeben, well done! :)
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[19:26] <gyeben> i wanted cmake to work :D
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[19:29] <gordonDrogon> cmake works for me ...
[19:29] <gordonDrogon> well for one project anyway...
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[19:45] <lilalinux> sam_nazarko: I can confirm this post http://forum.stmlabs.com/showthread.php?tid=4673&pid=60084#pid60084
[19:45] <lilalinux> for tvheadend channels that don't work, it helps to switch the audio track
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[19:59] <Semy1> Hi, I'm hoping for some omxplayer help. I've done an update today to try and fix something and now there's several new problems. First off, there's no video, only audio which then stops after a few seconds. I've set the memory split to 128 but the problem remains, can anyone help?
[20:02] <lilalinux> Semy1: could be related to this: http://forum.stmlabs.com/showthread.php?tid=4673
[20:03] <Semy1> lilalinux: it worked fine yesterday, so not a power problem.
[20:03] <lilalinux> did I say power?
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[20:04] <lilalinux> the thread is about your symptoms and also mentions, that it's an omxplayer issue
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[20:20] <Dynetrekk> hi, arch linux arm question: unison (from pacman) crashes with "zsh: illegal hardware instruction (core dumped) unison -help"
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[20:21] <shiftplusone> You could try #archlinux-arm as well
[20:21] <Dynetrekk> shiftplusone: thanks
[20:23] <Dynetrekk> I suspect compiling unison will take for ever, and could be difficult :/
[20:25] <jelly1> meh
[20:25] <jelly1> I suspect it isn't that big
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[20:25] <Dynetrekk> it's written in ocaml or some other obscurish language
[20:25] <jelly1> oh
[20:25] <jelly1> haha fun ;)
[20:26] <Dynetrekk> yeah, so I've got to install a compiler etc etc... if it even exists in pacman!
[20:26] <Dynetrekk> and I don't know the language myself
[20:26] <jelly1> pacman is a package manager
[20:26] <Dynetrekk> sure is
[20:27] <Dynetrekk> BTW how can I resize the partition on my SD card? I've got a 1.7 GB partition but 4 GB card
[20:27] <jelly1> gparted
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[20:27] <shiftplusone> gparted or do it manually
[20:27] <jelly1> mount it on your computer and use gparted magic
[20:27] <Dynetrekk> what's "manually"?
[20:27] <jelly1> more work :P
[20:27] <Dynetrekk> is it even possible to do it on the pi itself?
[20:27] <jelly1> http://elinux.org/RPi_Resize_Flash_Partitions
[20:27] <shiftplusone> To do it manually, delete the partition and recreate it starting at the same sector, but ending at the end. Then use resizefs
[20:28] <shiftplusone> Dynetrekk, yes it's perfectly possible. Raspbian does this with a script that comes included.
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[20:29] <Dynetrekk> shiftplusone: aha. I figured I'd try arch, for comparison. I've got an arch PC, too
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[20:29] <Semy1> lilalinux: so omxplayer is just broken and it's not getting fixed? :(
[20:29] <jelly1> lol
[20:29] <lilalinux> Semy1: no idea
[20:30] <lilalinux> but every bug report I read blaimed omxplayer
[20:30] <Semy1> ok, thank you
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[20:33] <Dynetrekk> shiftplusone: maybe it's easier to put the SD into that arch box and use gparted :P
[20:33] <jelly1> it is
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[20:34] <shiftplusone> Whatever you prefer
[20:34] <Semy1> is there a command line alternative for omxplayer?
[20:35] <shiftplusone> not one that uses hardware acceleration
[20:35] <jelly1> not that I know
[20:35] <jelly1> mplayer is superior
[20:36] <shiftplusone> there is mplayer and vlc which you can both use from command line, but I suspect you're not going to get the performance you're after with those
[20:36] <Semy1> yeah, the performance isn't good
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[21:03] <tethra> has anyone here built xbmc? i'm getting the feeling it is going to take quite some time, but wondering if anyone has an estimate from their own build
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[21:16] <TomWij> tethra: Hours.
[21:16] <TomWij> And that's with a properly configured distcc.
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[21:19] <tethra> distcc you say
[21:19] * tethra books a holiday
[21:19] <tethra> ;)
[21:20] <kaste> whywould you build it yourself?
[21:20] <TomWij> lilalinux, Semy1: omxplayer is stuck with an old version of ffmpeg as far as I know, attempts to use newer versions seem to fail.
[21:21] <tethra> kaste, fun?
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[21:21] <kaste> good enough reason I guess
[21:22] <TomWij> kaste: Get rid of the stuff you don't need, optimize it further, patch it, ... :)
[21:22] <kaste> run a gentoo then :P
[21:23] <TomWij> kaste: Check /whois TomWij
[21:23] <kaste> did you compile your kernel on the pi as well?
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[21:24] <kaste> I have 20 of them to run in a distcc cluster and it still takes ages
[21:24] <TomWij> Cross compiled the kernel on my laptop.
[21:25] <kaste> makes sense
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[21:31] <Viper-7> another deal... slightly more likely to be legit... but still insane!
[21:31] <Viper-7> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Freeshipping-Ainol-NOVO9-Spark-Firewire-9-7-inch-Quad-core-Android-4-1-tablet-pc-Allwinner/852941317.html
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[21:43] <pellis> hey guys
[21:43] <pellis> is there a way to zero out a corrupt SD card?
[21:44] <pksato> mount as read only.
[21:44] <geordie> dd if=/dev/null of=/corrupt/sdcard ?
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[21:44] <pellis> geordie, thanks. sorry if that's basic but i'm not familiar with the proper linux commands
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[21:44] <pksato> ah. fill it with zeros.
[21:45] <pksato> use badblock
[21:45] <pellis> i tried formatting through windows, removing partitions etc, and then write a new image on it but looks like i keep getting the same thing
[21:45] <geordie> pellis: experiment - you can't wreck the card...
[21:45] <pksato> or similar tools for windows.
[21:45] <geordie> it may just be that it is a bad card
[21:46] <geordie> writing a new image on it should have taken care of the problem
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[21:46] <geordie> but i like your "leave no stone unturned" approach
[21:46] <mgottschlag> btw, /dev/zero, not /dev/null
[21:46] <geordie> i stand corrected
[21:46] <dddh> Viper-7: too cheap?
[21:47] <pellis> well i get high cpu on that service that controls the sdcard communication (forgot the name) and google says it might be the card
[21:47] <Viper-7> dddh: ~$250 tablet for $40, yes too cheap
[21:47] <pellis> its kind of the card i keep testing out with new things on. first time it is consistently corrupt
[21:47] <mgottschlag> "dmesg" should show errors if the card is bad
[21:47] <Viper-7> but UPS shipping, i'll find out soon enough
[21:47] <Viper-7> ~$250 9.7" quad-core IPS dual-camera tablet for $40 delivered..
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[21:52] <dddh> Viper-7: never used aliexpress before, do you believe it is true?
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[21:55] <Viper-7> dddh: i've ordered and gotten plenty of stuff
[21:55] <Viper-7> but only one crazy deal so far, and that fell through
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[21:55] <Viper-7> my money was refunded after 60 days
[21:55] <dddh> oh
[21:55] <Viper-7> (took about 80, but yeah)
[21:55] <Viper-7> aliexpress is an escrow service
[21:55] <Viper-7> they hold your money till the supplier delivers
[21:56] <Viper-7> so very little risk involved
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[22:19] <lilalinux> TomWij: is that raspberry specific? xbmc on osx works very well
[22:20] <lilalinux> while xbian and raspbmc don't (for liveTV)
[22:20] <lilalinux> sam_nazarko: you might be interested in the logfiles that I attached: http://forum.stmlabs.com/showthread.php?tid=4673&pid=64881#pid64881
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[22:43] <TomWij> lilalinux: omxplayer, not xbmc.
[22:44] <TomWij> I didn't follow your whole conversation I think.
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[22:53] <sliddjur> Hello, I have a raspberry pi, but im intrested in buying another similar device with little bit more processing power, which one is recomended? i want it to run xbmc smoothly as well as linux distros
[22:54] <zleap> sleetdrop, there is something called cubieboard i think
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[22:55] <zleap> sliddjur, sorry
[22:56] <sliddjur> zleap, yeah i saw that. looks good. anyone know if there is one that has two eth ports?
[22:56] <zleap> not sure
[22:57] <zleap> can you use a usb to ethernet port thing or plug a usb wireless dongle thing in to the usb port
[22:58] <zleap> sliddjur, it runs android TV by the looks of it
[22:58] <SophieRxx> Why would you need two ethernet ports? Only thing I've seen with more than one is a router.
[22:59] <zleap> yeah
[23:02] <sliddjur> SophieRxx, to run a private firewall :)
[23:03] <BurtyB> Just use vlans ;)
[23:04] <zleap> ok
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[23:04] <zleap> sliddjur, you said you were running it as xbmc earlier
[23:04] <zleap> different to a firewall
[23:06] <pellis> any idea why mmcqd is 80% cpu ? the pi is unresponsive
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[23:08] <FergyA> Hey all, so I've only got serial console access to my RPi and I'd like to send it a file. I've tried using zmodem, but it requires that it has exclusive access to the serial link (meaning my console gets in the way). Anyone have any ideas?
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[23:10] <pycoderf> hi all. does anyone have working boot files for the pi? mine entered kdb when i rebooted and i copied files from github and now i get nothing
[23:12] <pellis> is it possible that SD card is corrupt beyond repair?
[23:13] <pycoderf> i doubt it but possible. it did start to boot before. i tested another sd card and it seemed ok
[23:14] <pycoderf> well i guess i cn always just reflash with wheezy since i backed up required config files
[23:15] <pycoderf> i just stripped out so much crap that it is a pain
[23:15] <pycoderf> but guess i can do that and then save the image
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[23:19] <pycoderf> pellis: i get that it cant mount the root fs which is odd
[23:20] <SophieRxx> Just nearly blinded myself with an LED and GPIO, gotta love the pi.
[23:24] <zleap> SophieRxx, i think you need a resistor in there
[23:24] <zleap> did it blow up or was it just bright
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[23:25] <SophieRxx> It had a resistor, it's one of those really bright blue led's used to find your keyhole at night.
[23:26] <SophieRxx> Didn't blow at least.
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