#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-05-06

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[1:36] <djazz> tune in to my raspberry pi-hosted radio ;) http://djazz.mine.nu:1337/ (warning, pink colors!)
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[2:53] <mpmc> djazz: Ahhh! my eyes they burn!
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[3:31] <leftyfb> Can anyone point me to information as to why the GPS I got from adafruit it showing it's time as 4 hours in the future?
[3:32] <hybr1d8> timezone?
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[3:32] <leftyfb> let me rephrase that
[3:32] <leftyfb> the time from the GPS is UTC
[3:33] <leftyfb> if I set the system time from it, it tries to set it based on the UTC time
[3:33] <leftyfb> which makes it 4 hours off
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[3:34] <leftyfb> HA!
[3:34] <leftyfb> got it
[3:35] <leftyfb> the python script which sets the time .. I just added -u to tell it the time it's getting is UTC
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[3:50] <phoo1234567> Any gentoo enthusiasts out there?
[3:50] <phoo1234567> It's looking pretty quiet.
[3:51] <ryankarason> i'd like to get into gentoo
[3:51] <ryankarason> but i haven't yet.
[3:51] <ryankarason> though i know a few gentoo enthusiasts.
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[3:52] <akk> I ran gentoo for a little while, but on a machine much faster than a pi.
[3:52] <phoo1234567> The board is quite capable on paper.
[3:52] <phoo1234567> Yes, I agree.
[3:53] <phoo1234567> I set up a cress development environment with an AMD64 machine but I've been having some Gentoo specific issues.
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[4:00] <Triffid_Hunter> phoo1234567: I run gentoo, haven't played with crossdev for a while though
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[4:04] <phoo1234567> Triffid_Hunter, thanks. I've been playing with my new rpi installing XBMC but ran into this seemingly simple Gentoo issue.
[4:04] <phoo1234567> Triffid_Hunter, I'm assuming it's a Gentoo issue but who knows.
[4:05] <phoo1234567> automake-1.12.6 seems to be in a test suite running locally to the rpi and is taking literally _days_ to complete.
[4:05] <phoo1234567> I'm about to kill it and install the debian wheezy release.
[4:06] <Triffid_Hunter> phoo1234567: hm, I compiled omxplayer on my pi and it took about 45 mins
[4:06] <phoo1234567> I'm a Gentoo veteran but this is just a PITA.
[4:06] <Triffid_Hunter> I wouldn't run gentoo on the pi.. at best I'd cross-compile from a host
[4:06] <phoo1234567> Yes, I understand.
[4:06] <Triffid_Hunter> phoo1234567: gotta remember, the rpi's cpu is less than amazing, but you really luck out on ram and disk speed
[4:07] <Triffid_Hunter> you'll see 50-80MB/s on a desktop hard drive, rpi would probably max out at about 3-4MB/s even on a nice sd card
[4:07] <phoo1234567> Unfortunate since I've been running Gentoo workstations and servers for 12 years but yes, I'm about to.
[4:07] <phoo1234567> I want to watch some movies!
[4:08] <Triffid_Hunter> phoo1234567: yeah just chuck raspbian or similar on it for that
[4:08] <phoo1234567> /var/tmp is a ramdisk.
[4:08] <phoo1234567> So not really an issue.
[4:08] <phoo1234567> It's a silly configuration issue.
[4:08] <Triffid_Hunter> then sshfs-mount the root and point your x-toolchain at it if you want to compile things
[4:08] <phoo1234567> I come across them often.
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[4:09] <Triffid_Hunter> heh you have a tmpfs on your pi? sounds like your issue, it's probably swapping hard
[4:09] <phoo1234567> Not at all.
[4:09] <phoo1234567> This seems to be only an automake issue.
[4:09] <phoo1234567> All other ebuilds seem fine.
[4:10] <phoo1234567> Please enlighten me on your tmpfs comment.
[4:11] <phoo1234567> I am a hardware engineer and I _believe_ that tmpfs is a _smart_ thing for /var/tmp/portage.
[4:11] <Triffid_Hunter> phoo1234567: tmpfs is swap-backed so if ram fills up its contents get pushed to swap. this is most excellently useful, however if the tmpfs contents are being used while the ram is also being used and you have a slow disk, everything slows to a crawl
[4:11] <phoo1234567> Is this not true in you experinece?
[4:11] <Triffid_Hunter> phoo1234567: it's very smart if you have adequate ram, or sufficiently fast
[4:11] <Triffid_Hunter> swap
[4:11] <Triffid_Hunter> rpi has neither
[4:11] <phoo1234567> Yes, but I disabled swap.
[4:11] <phoo1234567> I have 0.5 GB.
[4:11] <Triffid_Hunter> phoo1234567: if you disable swap and the ram is needed, the kernel starts killing processes at random
[4:12] <phoo1234567> I have been monitoring RAM usage and have not gone OOM yet.
[4:12] <Triffid_Hunter> phoo1234567: I've seen g++ take over 350MB to link some large C++ executables for reference
[4:12] <phoo1234567> Really?
[4:12] <phoo1234567> Nah....
[4:12] <phoo1234567> You _must_ be mistaken.
[4:12] <Triffid_Hunter> nope
[4:13] <phoo1234567> The kernel _can't_ kill processes to preserve RAM as far as I know.
[4:13] <phoo1234567> But ike I said, I'm a hardware guy.
[4:13] <Triffid_Hunter> phoo1234567: it sure does
[4:13] <Triffid_Hunter> had it happen plenty of times
[4:13] <phoo1234567> Hmm...
[4:14] <phoo1234567> I will look into it.
[4:14] <Triffid_Hunter> it's because it optimistically over-allocates instead of failing the allocation
[4:14] <Triffid_Hunter> you can tell it not to of course
[4:14] <phoo1234567> So why would automake just contiue to compile forever?
[4:14] <phoo1234567> No failures.
[4:14] <phoo1234567> Just continues.
[4:14] <Triffid_Hunter> phoo1234567: no idea, never got into automake.. took one look and decided it could stay as black magic for someone else to work out
[4:14] <phoo1234567> I've had OOM conditions before.
[4:15] <phoo1234567> It's not graceful.
[4:15] <phoo1234567> Perhaps you're right.
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[4:15] <Triffid_Hunter> phoo1234567: yeah lots of programs rarely check return value of malloc or new, then choke on the null pointer.. and that's what happens when the kernel fails the allocation instead of killing things!
[4:15] <Triffid_Hunter> phoo1234567: http://linux-mm.org/OOM_Killer
[4:16] <phoo1234567> I'm inclined to believe you at this point.
[4:16] <malcom2073> I had my kernel panic when I ran OOM on my pi, during an apt-get upgrade
[4:16] <phoo1234567> I promise to check back in if/when I ever figure it out.
[4:16] <malcom2073> Had to enable swap
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[4:16] <Triffid_Hunter> I've never seen a panic from oom
[4:16] <phoo1234567> malcom2073, yes, that's been my experience with other architectures, too.
[4:17] <malcom2073> Triffid_Hunter: I've heard that from a buddy of mine when I mentioned it, he said the kernel should kill processes
[4:17] <phoo1234567> Triffid_Hunter, I've had hard lockups that were _obviously_ due to OOM.
[4:17] <Triffid_Hunter> mine usually kills firefox or some of my daemons if I oom
[4:17] <phoo1234567> (logic analyzer)
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[4:17] <phoo1234567> Wow.
[4:17] <phoo1234567> Not my experience.
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[4:18] <malcom2073> Hmm, what if you don't have any processes other than the active ones running under the current user?
[4:18] <phoo1234567> Without swap, OOM causes catastrophic failure.
[4:18] <Triffid_Hunter> if the kernel panics on oom, you triggered a bug
[4:18] <phoo1234567> (over here)
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[4:18] <Triffid_Hunter> malcom2073: then I suppose it'd have to kill an active one
[4:18] <phoo1234567> Well, how often are there no other active processes?
[4:19] <malcom2073> When terminaled into a barebones system?
[4:19] <malcom2073> via serial
[4:19] <phoo1234567> We must be talking about different failure cases.
[4:19] <phoo1234567> I agree that the kernel must deal with OOM.
[4:20] <malcom2073> I'll have to play around and try to reproduce the error sometime
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[4:20] <phoo1234567> But while user space is active, OOM (to me) is catastropihc and ther eis no protection from it.
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[4:21] <phoo1234567> malcom2073, sure. Please don't read too much into this thread.
[4:21] <phoo1234567> This is an rpi specific issue (for me).
[4:21] <Triffid_Hunter> phoo1234567: if you can reproduce it with a recent kernel, consider submitting a bug
[4:21] <malcom2073> I've only seen this on my PI, though the PI is the only system I've ever run hard out of memory on :)
[4:21] <phoo1234567> Triffid_Hunter, sure, I will.
[4:21] <Triffid_Hunter> kernel should either 1) fail allocation, 2) kill things
[4:21] <Triffid_Hunter> it certainly should not panic
[4:21] <phoo1234567> malcom2073, me too!
[4:21] <phoo1234567> No panic.
[4:22] <phoo1234567> Hard lock,.
[4:22] <Triffid_Hunter> my main work machine only has 2G, gets used up easily
[4:22] <phoo1234567> I'm sure architecturally, you are correct.
[4:22] <Triffid_Hunter> even the 8G on the other one gets full sometimes.. slic3r alone chews up to 5G when making toolpaths for complex models
[4:22] <phoo1234567> And when your swap runs dry?
[4:23] <Triffid_Hunter> phoo1234567: oom = swap dry. if there's swap available, that's not oom in my book
[4:23] <phoo1234567> (spice, for instance)
[4:23] <phoo1234567> Ah...
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[4:23] <phoo1234567> That's where we are not communicating.
[4:23] <Triffid_Hunter> as far as I'm concerned, swap is literally a secondary, backup memory that's less used because it's slower
[4:23] <Triffid_Hunter> part of the kernel's job is to make swap usage completely invisible except for unavoidable slowdown
[4:24] <phoo1234567> I'm referencing embedded systems with limited swap during normal operations.
[4:24] <Triffid_Hunter> swap or no swap should not cause any difference in behaviour when oom. if it does, there's a bug
[4:24] <phoo1234567> If you run your 2G/8G machine to 10G, I would bet money that it would hard lock.
[4:24] <phoo1234567> (but not a fortune)
[4:24] <Triffid_Hunter> phoo1234567: nope. done it plenty of times, it's fine
[4:24] <phoo1234567> Anywho...
[4:25] <phoo1234567> Oh, OK.
[4:25] <Triffid_Hunter> and if the swap fills, kernel starts killing things
[4:25] <phoo1234567> I must have _other_ issues, then.
[4:25] <Triffid_Hunter> heh perhaps
[4:25] <phoo1234567> Probably configuration.
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[4:26] <phoo1234567> Believe me, I understand the architectural idealism.
[4:26] <phoo1234567> But I've witnessed logic analyzer traces that don't die gracefully.
[4:26] <phoo1234567> Thanks for your ear.
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[4:28] <Triffid_Hunter> yw
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[5:16] <blindrage> not sure if anyone's 'made' one, but i'm looking for some sort of music manager with a web UI for linux
[5:16] <blindrage> end goal, plug in a USB drive with audio to my raspberry, and have something indexing it and let me choose playlists, files etc from a web UI
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[5:22] <Triffid_Hunter> blindrage: mpd
[5:22] <Triffid_Hunter> blindrage: haven't checked for auto-scan of removable media but I'm sure there's a way
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[5:31] <blindrage> k i'll check it out
[5:32] <blindrage> just looking for some ideas
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[5:56] <x29a> blindrage: or minidlna
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[6:44] <surfn_> hi, any suggestions for a good webcam program on raspberrypi?
[6:44] <surfn_> lightweight is the key word
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[11:38] <sphenxes> .
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[12:03] <TheSnide> will there be 2d accelerated drivers for X ?
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[12:28] <chithead> TheSnide: there are already. http://elinux.org/RPi_Xorg_rpi_Driver
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[14:28] <TheSnide> idk ?
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[14:31] <Jck_true> TheSnide: Makes us two
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[15:23] <IT_Sean> o/
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[15:26] <dreamreal> morning
[15:29] <dreamreal> IT_Sean: hey, can you chain SDA and SCL for multiple devices?
[15:29] <dreamreal> Like, if I wante dto hang a touch screen and a set of MCP23008s off of a pi?
[15:30] <Triffid_Hunter> dreamreal: the whole point of I2C is that it's a multi-drop bus
[15:30] <Bushmills> I??C? yes. it' a bus, with devices having their own addresses
[15:30] <dreamreal> Triffid_Hunter: I know for multiple MCP23008s
[15:30] <Bushmills> same devices usually allow lower 3 bits to be jumpered, so you can have 8 of each
[15:30] <Triffid_Hunter> dreamreal: should be a way to give them different addresses
[15:30] <dreamreal> that's not a concern - it's that I have a device with 23008s *and* a touch screen, I've never mixed devices like that (the touch screen has no jumper address)
[15:31] * Armand finally has all the parts to build his rPi power distribution boards.
[15:31] <dreamreal> Armand: ooo
[15:31] <IT_Sean> dreamreal: not sure why you are asking me directly... i have no idea.
[15:31] <Triffid_Hunter> dreamreal: the chips have most of the address bits fixed at the factory
[15:31] <Armand> The capacitors are HUGE!
[15:31] <dreamreal> IT_Sean: you were the only person who'd said anything in channel for a while :)
[15:31] <Triffid_Hunter> dreamreal: so if you can jumper one address bit on your 23008 then you can have two of them and at least one each of any other chips on your i2c bus
[15:32] * IT_Sean facepalms
[15:32] <dreamreal> http://www.adafruit.com/products/335?gclid=CPbx4b3LgbcCFchM4AodGGIAHA <-- that's the screen, but I have other things that need SDA and SCL
[15:32] <dreamreal> IT_Sean: I know, I know, stupid of me
[15:32] <dreamreal> I just looked at the channel and thought "Hey, I should ask someone"
[15:33] * Bushmills noticed too late that the question was directed, and will keep his mouth shut next time
[15:33] <dreamreal> Bushmills: nooooooo
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[15:51] <eatyourguitar> is there a blog somewhere comparing all the pi cases on one page?
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[18:42] <Jinxed-> Does a pi have the hardware capability where you might be able to wire an analog phone directly to it and make it into a sip ATA?
[18:42] <IT_Sean> No. There is nowhere to wire in a phone.
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[18:43] <IT_Sean> You'd need a gob of hardware in the middle.
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[18:43] <Jinxed-> Are there any analog audio inputs? I saw some youtube video of a gui who wired his guitar directly to a pi to make it sound sound effects
[18:43] <prpplague> Jinxed-: the base hardware does not support that configuration, however one could be built to do such a job, but as IT_Sean indicates, it isn't for the newbie to do
[18:43] <IT_Sean> Jinxed-: there is no audio input on the Pi
[18:44] <Jinxed-> you couldn't use something like the GPI
[18:44] <IT_Sean> again... you would need a gob of hardware in the middle, and code to support it.
[18:45] <IT_Sean> It would probably be far easier to use a USB based audio capture solution.
[18:45] <pecorade> Hi.
[18:45] <Jinxed-> IT_Sean: but not as fun
[18:46] <IT_Sean> True.
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[18:46] <IT_Sean> But the voltages required to work a line powered telephone are higher than the 3.3v of the GPIO. Not to mention you would need more durrent than can be safely drawn from the GPIO
[18:46] <Jinxed-> I need something to refresh my EE/CE programming
[18:47] <Jinxed-> days
[18:49] <IT_Sean> It sounds like a very cool project. But, you would need something inbetween the phone and the raspi.
[18:49] <Jinxed-> hrm
[18:49] <IT_Sean> There is nowhere you could wire the phone into the pi directly.
[18:49] <Jinxed-> I'm also looking at integrating radios
[18:49] <Jinxed-> with ptt audio
[18:50] <Jinxed-> again though I'm at stage 0
[18:50] <Jinxed-> just trying to find the resources to begin the research
[18:51] <IT_Sean> It sounds like no matter what you do, you will need a way to get audio INTO the pi.
[18:51] <IT_Sean> Easiest thing there is a USB audio input device.
[18:52] <Jinxed-> probably a good place to start
[18:52] <Jinxed-> I can work on the freeswitch backside
[18:52] <Jinxed-> then worry more about hardware interfacing
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[19:21] <SophieRxx> o/
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[19:33] <SophieRxx> Tip of the day: The command ???sudo amixer -cset numid=3 1??? will send sound to the headphone socket. Use ???sudo amixer numid=3 2??? to return it to HDMI. Thank you!!!
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[19:42] <jelly1> no need to use sudo.
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[19:44] <DooMMasteR> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/9002576/2013-05-06%2019.41.39.jpg
[19:44] <DooMMasteR> modification??? since my pi will be colocated soon :)
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[19:46] <dreamreal> DooMMasteR: what's that mod for?
[19:46] <bdavenport> Is that a tempature sensor?
[19:46] <DooMMasteR> yepp
[19:46] <DooMMasteR> DS18B20
[19:47] <bdavenport> Now I also must ask the same question dreamreal did
[19:47] <bdavenport> why?
[19:47] <IT_Sean> Because he can.
[19:47] <bdavenport> outside of that obvious answer :P
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[19:48] <DooMMasteR> just to see how hot my Pi gets where he will soon live
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[19:49] <IT_Sean> why are you colocating a pi?
[19:49] <DooMMasteR> why not???
[19:49] <IT_Sean> ... why?
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[19:49] <IT_Sean> I just don't know why you would colocate a pi
[19:49] <DooMMasteR> nice to have??? 1 IPv4, 500GB traffic, netherland location
[19:49] <DooMMasteR> and they do not even take money for it :)
[19:50] <jelly1> so it runs 24/7 and you don't have to pay the bills :p
[19:50] <IT_Sean> o_O
[19:50] <IT_Sean> That sounds really fishy
[19:50] <DooMMasteR> why?
[19:50] <IT_Sean> whats the catch?
[19:50] <SophieRxx> I though the pi had built in temp sensing...
[19:50] <jelly1> IT_Sean: it's not
[19:50] <jelly1> IT_Sean: it's an hosting provider which does this
[19:50] <DooMMasteR> there are 3 so far
[19:50] <IT_Sean> So... they are giving you free net traffic, a free fixed IP, and free rackspace?
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[19:50] <bdavenport> http://raspberrycolocation.com/ - right?
[19:51] <DooMMasteR> Austrian, Swedish and Dutch
[19:51] <IT_Sean> There must be a catch
[19:51] <DooMMasteR> bdavenport: jepp
[19:51] <jelly1> IT_Sean: publicity
[19:51] <DooMMasteR> IT_Sean: why? it is PR
[19:51] <jelly1> and no support
[19:51] * jelly1 runs his pi happily at home
[19:52] <DooMMasteR> jelly1: they offer free SD-swap and a possiblity to remotly reset the pi
[19:52] * bdavenport wonders if a data center near him would give me a close to similar deal
[19:52] <jelly1> hmmmm
[19:52] <DooMMasteR> what else would one want for free
[19:53] <SophieRxx> I'd still rather have my pi at home.
[19:53] <IT_Sean> me too
[19:53] <DooMMasteR> I have 4 others here???
[19:53] <DooMMasteR> they can stay :)
[19:53] <IT_Sean> as i use mine as a media center, mostly
[19:55] <bdavenport> I would move mine to a data center, but only if it was closer to an airport, use mine to capture ADSB traffic and listen to ATC radio
[19:56] <SophieRxx> If mines at a data center, I wouldn't feel like I actually own it.
[19:56] <jelly1> lol
[19:56] <IT_Sean> That too.
[19:56] <bdavenport> that is a good point
[19:56] <IT_Sean> I'd want to go and visit it. And i imagine that would be verboten.
[19:56] <IT_Sean> make sure you read the fine print, to be sure you actually DO still own it!
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[19:57] <SophieRxx> It's like buying a pi, but it never actually being shipped.
[19:57] <IT_Sean> Indeed
[19:57] <IT_Sean> vaporpi
[19:57] <SophieRxx> You're just paying to be able to access it remotely (if you can even do that)
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[20:33] <DooMMasteR> SophieRxx: mine is with me atm
[20:34] <DooMMasteR> I will ship it there in a few days :)
[20:34] <IT_Sean> Mine is at home, on my TV stand. And that is where it is staying.
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[20:40] <Kane> hi
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[20:56] <Mortvert> This used to be so alive
[20:56] <Mortvert> Now it's dead.
[20:56] <Mortvert> [*]
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[20:57] <IT_Sean> Mortvert: it really isn't. It's always operated in fits and spurts. It was fairly loud earlier.
[20:58] <IT_Sean> It's also Monday.
[20:58] <Mortvert> Wasn't around, prolly was at work.
[20:58] <Mortvert> I need to do something else with my pi.. ZNC/HTTP server ain't enough
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[21:32] <dreamreal> Mortvert: slash'em? :)
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[21:51] <notaro1997> Can the RPI support a usb hub?
[21:51] <IT_Sean> Yes. Use a powered hub.
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[21:52] <notaro1997> IT_Sean: How do i know if it is powered?
[21:52] <mgottschlag> it is when you plug it into a wall socket
[21:52] <notaro1997> Oh
[21:53] <notaro1997> I plugged one in that was only a usb one, and i dont think it worked. Do you think it harmed my RPI?
[21:53] <mgottschlag> certainly not
[21:53] <mgottschlag> but the devices didn't get enough power from the pi
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[21:55] <phoo1234567> Mortvert, ``ZNC''?
[21:56] <Mortvert> phoo1234567 - irc bouncer
[21:56] <phoo1234567> Ah...
[21:57] <phoo1234567> Mortvert, I assume you don't use it to drive a TV with XBMC or the like.
[21:57] <Mortvert> nope
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[21:59] <IT_Sean> notaro1997: it will have a dangly bit that plugs into a wall socket.
[22:00] <notaro1997> mgottschlag: I plugged it in while it was on, so i could use my mouse, because at the time i had my keyboard, and wipi plugged in, so i unplugged the keyboard, and plugged in the hub, and now im not getting any power from the port at all, so should i just unplug it?
[22:00] <IT_Sean> notaro1997: you need a powered hub.
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[22:00] <notaro1997> IT_Sean: Thank you
[22:01] * IT_Sean nods
[22:02] <notaro1997> But what should i do now, because im not getting any power from the usb ports, and im on the desktop for the first time. Should i just unplug it?
[22:02] <notaro1997> IT_Sean: ^
[22:02] <IT_Sean> Power cycle the Pi.
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[22:02] <IT_Sean> i.e. Have you tried turning it off and on again?
[22:03] <notaro1997> No, how should i turn it off is my question. Unplug it?
[22:03] * IT_Sean facepalms
[22:03] <IT_Sean> Yes. Unplug the raspi
[22:03] <notaro1997> Okay, i just dont want to risk damaging the filesystem
[22:03] <IT_Sean> as long as it's not accessing, you should be alright
[22:05] <IT_Sean> It's not the recommended method, of course, but, you haven't got much choice now.
[22:05] <notaro1997> Okay, let me go try
[22:05] <notaro1997> brb
[22:06] <mgottschlag> notaro1997: is this a rev1 pi or rev2? with, or without mounting holes?
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[22:14] <notaro1997> God damn it!
[22:14] <notaro1997> IT_Sean: Now im getting no video output again!
[22:14] <notaro1997> Sorry to be raging
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[22:14] <mgottschlag> no video output, but the LEDs are on?
[22:15] <notaro1997> mgottschlag: Yes, the power light it on, and the activity light is going, just as it does when there is video output
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[22:28] <notaro1997> mgottschlag: IT_Sean: any idea?
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[22:30] * Bushmills suggests as cycling method for raspi to cut the mains fuse
[22:31] <notaro1997> what
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[22:34] <Bushmills> a circuit breaker
[22:34] <notaro1997> Yeah
[22:35] <Bushmills> may look like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jtecul.jpg
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[22:37] * IT_Sean has a switch spliced onto his power cable
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[22:38] <notaro1997> :O
[22:39] <notaro1997> IT_Sean: Do you have any idea what might be wrong with my RPI?
[22:39] <IT_Sean> No clue
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[22:41] <johnc-> I want my pi to control a laser gun like in Captain America, howdo?
[22:42] <Bushmills> this can be very convenient for powering individual devices: http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41tPJX%2BDi3L._SX300_.jpg
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[22:43] <Bushmills> battery chargers for example are a permanent nuisance if plugged/unplugged frequently
[22:43] <chod> nod, looking through android apps for home automation with a server type(raspberry pi/arduino) hardware
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[22:45] <notaro1997> Can anyone try to figure this out:
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[22:49] <notaro1997> Can anyone try to figure this out:
[22:49] <notaro1997> My RPI had video output, and then i power cycled it, and now it has no video output, yet the power light is on, and the activity light is going just as it does when there is video. Think its a faulty HDMI?
[22:50] <doc_b> are you accessing through ssh from another computer?
[22:51] <doc_b> or directly through the pi
[22:51] <wroberts1> notaro1997: the pi default to vga output (yellow connector), if hdmi isnt pluged in at boot-time
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[22:53] <notaro1997> wroberts1: It has been plugged in the whole time
[22:53] <notaro1997> doc_b: Directly through the pi
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[22:55] <notaro1997> This is mine: Its the model B rev 2 right? https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/397790_589826914374531_961440796_n.jpg
[22:55] <doc_b> that happens to me sometimes aswell but I ssh into it so I can do 'startx' and it switches the screen back on with xserver activated then ctrl+c to turn it off and I'm left with the boot up commandline interface.
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[22:55] <doc_b> can you ssh into it see if that works? not a real solution but just to test.
[22:56] <notaro1997> doc_b: I have never used ssh
[22:56] <notaro1997> I didnt set up the ssh server on it either
[22:57] <johnc-> ping it?
[22:57] <doc_b> notaro1997: or switch off pi, unplug hdmi, plug back in hdmi. switch back on. Dos the screen show? then restart dont unplug anything. what happens now?
[22:57] <wroberts1> you can set hdmi_force_hotplug in /boot/config.txt, then reboot
[22:58] <wroberts1> or try hdmi_safe=1, but its a shitty compatibility mode
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[23:03] <notaro1997> Okay i got it working
[23:03] <notaro1997> I unplugged everything and rebooted a few times
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[23:04] <notaro1997> Also i got a quick question. My keyboard has a few usb ports on it. Would it be safe to have my keyboard plugged into one usb port on the Pi, and also have the mouse plugged into the keyboard?
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[23:05] <Bushmills> save, yes. functioning, depends.
[23:05] <notaro1997> Okay
[23:05] <notaro1997> Let me check
[23:06] <Bushmills> safe, i mean.
[23:06] <johnc-> you'd need a powered usb hub if you're attaching usb devices that draw a decent amount of power
[23:07] <notaro1997> Im going to get one
[23:07] <notaro1997> Thanks guys
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[23:09] <HelenaKitty> :/
[23:10] <ParkerR> HelenaKitty, WHAT
[23:10] <ParkerR> OMG
[23:10] <HelenaKitty> ...
[23:10] <HelenaKitty> Help me
[23:10] <HelenaKitty> with serial ParkerR
[23:11] <HelenaKitty> I can't get access to my raspi via serial
[23:11] <ParkerR> HelenaKitty, Are you who i think you are?
[23:11] <HelenaKitty> yes
[23:11] <ParkerR> :d
[23:11] <HelenaKitty> where is niles?
[23:11] <HelenaKitty> he like...
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[23:11] <HelenaKitty> vanished off face of IRC
[23:11] <HelenaKitty> O.o
[23:11] <ryankarason> has anyone figured out how to prevent the pi's audio from "popping" yet ?
[23:11] <ParkerR> HelenaKitty, First of all: long time no see! Seoncd of all: I have no clue
[23:11] <Bushmills> ryankarason: by plugging in an usb audio controller
[23:12] <HelenaKitty> third of all I've been thinking about you recently
[23:12] <ParkerR> ryankarason, The general consensus is that it's a hardware issue
[23:12] <HelenaKitty> ryankarason, It doesn't pop
[23:12] <ryankarason> Bushmills:
[23:12] <HelenaKitty> you clearly have a defected pi
[23:12] <HelenaKitty> probs a china model
[23:12] <HelenaKitty> haha
[23:12] <ryankarason> HelenaKitty: hmph
[23:12] <HelenaKitty> ryankarason, no rly
[23:12] <ParkerR> HelenaKitty, Analog audio has popping when audio starts playing/stops
[23:12] <HelenaKitty> I've heard bad stories about the ones manufacturered in china
[23:12] <HelenaKitty> ParkerR, Not here
[23:13] <HelenaKitty> mine is a UK model also
[23:13] <ryankarason> also HelenaKitty: what are you using to talk to via serial
[23:13] <HelenaKitty> and I heard many bad stories about the chinese models
[23:13] <HelenaKitty> ryankarason, a USB UART
[23:13] <HelenaKitty> TTL
[23:13] <chithead> recent firmware should have improved the pop to only once when audio starts for the first time
[23:13] <HelenaKitty> archlinux support are taking the piss :/
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[23:14] <ryankarason> chithead: is there a way to leave the audio always "started"
[23:14] <ryankarason> and like append new audio
[23:14] <ryankarason> or something of the nature
[23:14] <chithead> yes, https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/128 discusses some workarounds. but this is unnecessary with current firmware, or so I'm told
[23:15] <ryankarason> HelenaKitty: i just realized i have only messed with the GPIO pins not any of the UART
[23:15] <HelenaKitty> ryankarason, it's gnd, tx and rx
[23:15] <HelenaKitty> Guys?
[23:15] <Bushmills> HelenaKitty: does a getty listen to your serial port? i.e. have you configured your raspi to start a getty on ttyS0?
[23:15] <HelenaKitty> Bushmills, no
[23:15] <HelenaKitty> cause arch linux support never told me to
[23:15] <HelenaKitty> they just said it should work out of the box
[23:15] <Bushmills> what does listen to your serial port then?
[23:16] <HelenaKitty> I don't have any other access to the pi
[23:16] <ryankarason> which pin is tx
[23:16] <HelenaKitty> Bushmills, What?!
[23:16] <HelenaKitty> 1min...
[23:16] <HelenaKitty> ryankarason, 1min
[23:16] <HelenaKitty> I have an image
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[23:16] <HelenaKitty> ryankarason, http://lavalink.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/raspberry-pi-serial_sm-241x300.jpg
[23:17] <Bushmills> raspbian? they start a getty listening to serial by default
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[23:17] <chithead> can also look here http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals#General_Purpose_Input.2FOutput_.28GPIO.29
[23:17] <Bushmills> other distributions i don't know whether they do
[23:18] <Bushmills> /etc/inittab tells you whether there's one listening
[23:19] <ryankarason> echo "8" > /sys/class/gpio/export && echo "out" /sys/class/gpio/gpio8/direction && echo "1" /sys/class/gpio/gpio8/value
[23:19] <chithead> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Raspberry_Pi#Serial_Console contains some commands to run
[23:19] <ryankarason> that cat /sys/class/gpio10/value for rx
[23:19] <ryankarason> maybe?
[23:20] <HelenaKitty> Bushmills, Arch linux
[23:20] <HelenaKitty> chithead, they said it's invalid
[23:20] <HelenaKitty> but like I said...
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[23:20] <HelenaKitty> I have no other access to the pi
[23:20] <HelenaKitty> no screens, no keyboards, no nothing
[23:20] <HelenaKitty> no ethernet
[23:20] <chithead> so did you try systemctl start getty@ttyAMA0 ?
[23:21] <HelenaKitty> How do I do that?!
[23:21] <HelenaKitty> O.o
[23:21] <HelenaKitty> forget it
[23:21] <chithead> if necessary, edit the files on the sdcard
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[23:22] <Bushmills> 115200 bps.
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[23:24] <Bushmills> though you could instead just hd /dev/ttyAMA0 or ttyS0 or whatever the serial device name under arch
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[23:24] <HelenaKitty> Bushmills, it's /dev/ttyAMA0
[23:24] <HelenaKitty> but what does that have to do with anything?
[23:25] <HelenaKitty> I'm trying to access my raspberry pi from my computer
[23:25] <Bushmills> (23:11:05) HelenaKitty: I can't get access to my raspi via serial - find out whether raspberry sees your serial input
[23:25] <HelenaKitty> Bushmills, How?
[23:26] <mgottschlag> HelenaKitty: minicom -s, then configure your serial port, then input should appear there
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[23:26] <HelenaKitty> mgottschlag, I already did all that
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[23:27] <Bushmills> what keeps you from accessing it? a problem? partition the problem domain into software/hardware. that's what hd port enables you to
[23:27] <HelenaKitty> I don't get what you mean by hd port.
[23:27] <Bushmills> (23:24:06) Bushmills: though you could instead just hd /dev/ttyAMA0 or ttyS0 or whatever the serial device name under arch
[23:27] <Bushmills> am i typing this for nothing?
[23:28] <Bushmills> hd is a command. hex dump.
[23:28] <HelenaKitty> oh
[23:28] <HelenaKitty> Bushmills, and I executed that
[23:28] <HelenaKitty> it hangs
[23:28] <HelenaKitty> now what?
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[23:28] <HelenaKitty> should it dump some hex?
[23:28] <Bushmills> no. it shows input
[23:29] <Bushmills> give it some
[23:29] <HelenaKitty> what?
[23:29] <HelenaKitty> "input"
[23:29] <Bushmills> input
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[23:29] <HelenaKitty> to where?
[23:29] <TheSnide> HelenaKitty: it waits until some input comes into serial
[23:29] <HelenaKitty> oh
[23:29] <HelenaKitty> input from the pie into the computer?
[23:30] <HelenaKitty> TheSnide, ^
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[23:30] <HelenaKitty> Is this it?
[23:30] <HelenaKitty> cause...
[23:30] <HelenaKitty> that command isn't showing anything
[23:31] * TheSnide looks at backlog
[23:32] * HelenaKitty sighs
[23:32] <HelenaKitty> I wish there was an easier way to access this pi
[23:32] <HelenaKitty> :/
[23:32] <Bushmills> of you try sending something to raspberry, and nothing is shown at all, not even strange chars, then either your baudrate is completely off, or there's a problem interfacing your computer to the raspberry
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[23:32] <HelenaKitty> yeah
[23:33] <HelenaKitty> I get strange chars in minicom if I disable control flaw
[23:33] <Bushmills> that's good
[23:33] <HelenaKitty> I know, right?
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[23:34] <HelenaKitty> I deal with many routers and never bump into this problem. :/
[23:34] <Bushmills> an indication that raspberry and computer aren't set to the same baudrate
[23:34] <HelenaKitty> EVER
[23:34] <Bushmills> wrong
[23:34] <HelenaKitty> unless some soldering is required
[23:34] <Bushmills> you do. now.
[23:34] <HelenaKitty> well...
[23:34] <HelenaKitty> this isn't a router
[23:34] <HelenaKitty> it's a pi
[23:34] <HelenaKitty> I was talking about routers
[23:34] <Bushmills> well. i also never experience that problem when handling espresso machines.
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[23:35] <Bushmills> actually, mine has a serial port.
[23:35] <TheSnide> doesnt a difference in voltage exist in rpi and rs232 ?
[23:35] * TheSnide just wonders
[23:35] <HelenaKitty> I'm not using voltage
[23:36] <HelenaKitty> I was told I didn't need 3.3v
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[23:36] <Bushmills> but i never hooked up my computer to my espresso macine
[23:36] <troulouliou_dev> TheSnide, rpi 0/3.3 rs232 +- 10V (variable)
[23:36] * Bushmills considers doing that right now, just for the heck
[23:39] <TheSnide> troulouliou_dev: yup, that's also what i recall from some earlier web scouting
[23:39] <Bushmills> actually, hd should never show "strange chars". maybe the notion of "strange chars" needs some evaluation
[23:39] <HelenaKitty> hd showed nothing Bushmills
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[23:39] <Torikun> I figured out how to make the matrix screen saver! dmesg | od -c | cut -c 10-1000????
[23:39] <DooMMasteR> anyone interested in some DS18B20??? ~80???ent a piece + EU-letter from germany???
[23:39] <DooMMasteR> ?
[23:40] <TheSnide> DooMMasteR: what's that ?
[23:40] <HelenaKitty> Bushmills, 00000000 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 fc e0 e0 00 00 00 fc 00 e0 |................|
[23:40] <HelenaKitty> hd showed that
[23:40] <Bushmills> what's that? dallas thermo sensors?
[23:40] <DooMMasteR> a Digital 1Wire Thermometer
[23:41] <DooMMasteR> jepp
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[23:41] <DooMMasteR> I will get a lot aof 100 and only need ~50
[23:41] <Bushmills> HelenaKitty: looks ok. it received something
[23:41] <HelenaKitty> okies
[23:41] <Bushmills> baudrate seems off
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[23:41] <TheSnide> DooMMasteR: 50 extra @ 80??? peace ? sounds lots of overhead :/
[23:42] <HelenaKitty> Bushmills, no it's not off at all
[23:42] <HelenaKitty> it's 114200
[23:42] <DooMMasteR> nope 100pcs @80???
[23:42] <HelenaKitty> wait...
[23:42] <Bushmills> rpi might default to 115200 bps. set terminal to same rate
[23:42] <HelenaKitty> yeah
[23:42] <HelenaKitty> 115200
[23:42] <DooMMasteR> I do not wanna eanr on them
[23:42] <HelenaKitty> that's what it is
[23:42] <HelenaKitty> Bushmills, it's set to that
[23:42] <HelenaKitty> and it's also that in cmdline.txt
[23:42] <DooMMasteR> but the price is hell a low at 100pcs
[23:42] <Bushmills> press and autorepeat the space bar
[23:42] <Bushmills> see what hd shows with that
[23:43] <HelenaKitty> Bushmills, What do you mean?
[23:43] <Bushmills> should be a lines full of 20 20 20 if correct
[23:43] <HelenaKitty> okies
[23:43] <Bushmills> mean by what?
[23:44] <TheSnide> DooMMasteR: 80??? per sensors seems expensive. /clueless
[23:44] <Bushmills> he said "cent". that's 0.8 ???
[23:44] <TheSnide> Bushmills: oh.
[23:44] <HelenaKitty> GAH
[23:44] <HelenaKitty> everything keeps locking up
[23:45] <TheSnide> Bushmills: ohhhh. the "ent" was cent.
[23:45] <TheSnide> Bushmills: 0.80??? is much cleaner to understand. and cheaper :)
[23:46] <HelenaKitty> Bushmills, I can't get a response now
[23:46] <HelenaKitty> and minicom keeps locking up :/
[23:46] <Bushmills> sorry, can't help you with things locking up when they aren't supposed to
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[23:47] <HelenaKitty> Bushmills, but I need access to my pi
[23:47] <Bushmills> maybe they don't
[23:47] <TheSnide> HelenaKitty: modA ?
[23:47] <Bushmills> maybe they only appear to be locking up
[23:47] <HelenaKitty> TheSnide, ?
[23:48] <TheSnide> HelenaKitty: model A ?
[23:48] <HelenaKitty> TheSnide, Model B
[23:48] <TheSnide> HelenaKitty: so why no eth0 ?
[23:49] <HelenaKitty> I don't have ethernet atm
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[23:49] <HelenaKitty> no screen
[23:49] <HelenaKitty> no keyboard
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[23:49] <HelenaKitty> no mouse
[23:49] <pksato> no rpi. :)
[23:50] <Bushmills> no power
[23:50] <HelenaKitty> I'm being serious!
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[23:50] <TheSnide> HelenaKitty: your best bet is to invest in a screen+keyb
[23:50] <TheSnide> HelenaKitty: ... and I also am serious.
[23:50] <HelenaKitty> TheSnide, Why?
[23:50] <Bushmills> what kind of cable do you use for connecting pc and rpi?
[23:51] <HelenaKitty> Bushmills, jumper leads
[23:51] <Bushmills> 2 wires + ground? or 4 wires + ground?
[23:51] <TheSnide> HelenaKitty: debugging a connection while being blind and deaf is not really time efficient
[23:51] <HelenaKitty> 2 wires + ground
[23:51] <pksato> HelenaKitty: you have a 3v3 ttl level to RS232 -/+12V converter?
[23:52] <Bushmills> that's good. avoids problems with flow control now
[23:52] <HelenaKitty> pksato, no converter cause USB
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[23:52] <pksato> or 3v3 ttl I/O usb uart.
[23:52] <HelenaKitty> yeah that
[23:52] <HelenaKitty> the last one
[23:53] <pksato> most are 5V. not 3v3.
[23:53] <pksato> 5V fly RPi.
[23:53] <HelenaKitty> this is 5v + 3.3v
[23:53] <chithead> even the cheapest $2 usb-ttl from ebay are switchable between 5V and 3.3V
[23:54] <HelenaKitty> chithead, yes
[23:54] <Bushmills> since notebook times rs232 ports find 3.3 and 0 V as levels commonly sufficient
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[23:54] <mgottschlag> HelenaKitty: I'd suggest connecting rx/tx on the pi to rule out software problems
[23:54] <pksato> test usb uart shorting tx and rx, and if have echo on terminal emulator.
[23:55] <Bushmills> that's long after v24 -12/+12 requirement was past
[23:55] <mgottschlag> yes, and the same for the usb uart of course ^^
[23:55] <HelenaKitty> okies
[23:55] <djazz> i should write a guide on how to create a raspberry pi web radio (mpd+icecast+php+nodejs), all I have is a live demo :) http://djazz.mine.nu:1337/
[23:57] <Bushmills> i suppose rpi inits to 8 bit, 1 stopbit, no parity. not sure though. your terminal would have to be set to the same.
[23:57] <HelenaKitty> pksato, yeah
[23:57] <HelenaKitty> I gets an echo
[23:58] <pksato> ok, and connected to correct pins on GPIO header?
[23:58] <HelenaKitty> pksato, yes
[23:59] <HelenaKitty> oh
[23:59] <HelenaKitty> I can't access the pi
[23:59] <HelenaKitty> yes
[23:59] <mgottschlag> and you connected rx of the usb adapter to tx on the pi, right? :)
[23:59] <DooMMasteR> http://stratum0.mooo.com:1587/
[23:59] <HelenaKitty> mgottschlag, yes
[23:59] <DooMMasteR> temperature logg of my Pi-in-case-temperature

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