#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-05-15

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[15:44] <arcanescu> does the RPI camera module show up as a v4l2 device? .... /dev/video*?
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[15:47] <timmmaaaayyy> ant_thomas: i will look into that. i was really hoping to do it without a window manager though. i can't image it not being possible
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[15:49] <arcanescu> hmmm noone has played with the rpi camera?
[15:49] <arcanescu> :o
[15:49] <pksato> arcanescu: I guess, is not a V4L device, atm.
[15:50] <IT_Sean> arcanescu: it was released YESTERDAY. Noone here has had an oppurtunity to receive it yet.
[15:50] <arcanescu> pksato: so doesnt show up as /dev/vid* ?
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[15:50] <arcanescu> that would imply there are no drivers for it *yet*
[15:50] <arcanescu> IT_Sean: yea but the documentation does suggest that *support in latest raspbian*
[15:51] <arcanescu> im trying to decode exactly does support mean
[15:51] <IT_Sean> It is supported in the latest raspbian.
[15:51] <IT_Sean> That means it can be made to work in the latest version of raspbian.
[15:51] <IT_Sean> You do a raspi-update
[15:51] <IT_Sean> then go into config and enable the camera
[15:51] <arcanescu> if it doesnt show up as a /dev/video
[15:52] <IT_Sean> arcanescu: Noone here has hands on experience with the camera yet.
[15:52] <arcanescu> well ist on the way for me ... should come around later this afternoon ... farnell
[15:52] <IT_Sean> Well, then... you can report back on how it enumerates itself. :p
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[15:53] <arcanescu> definately.... I just thought id ask.... if anyone at all got it ... there was someone on ebay selling it actually
[15:53] <arcanescu> for 28pounds
[15:53] <arcanescu> :/
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[15:53] <IT_Sean> They were probably selling it before they had it in hand. Dirty buggers.
[15:53] <pksato> https://github.com/raspberrypi/userland/tree/master/host_applications/linux/apps/raspicam
[15:53] <arcanescu> i mean gtta giv it to these people....they did the same with rpi models baught it ....stocked it sold for 100 pounds or >
[15:54] <arcanescu> pksato: im probably going to use it with gstreamer
[15:55] <arcanescu> hence the question of v4l2.... it can pickup v4l2 devices easy....
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[15:56] <pksato> v4l loopback (if its realy exists) can help to use cam. mod. with v4l apps.
[15:57] <ant_thomas> timmmaaaayyy: Just install nodm, it's tiny and that guide does exactly what you want. I've used it to make a kiosk style home automation info/dashboard and it worked exactly as I wanted.
[15:57] <timmmaaaayyy> ok
[15:57] <timmmaaaayyy> thank you
[15:57] <arcanescu> pksato: didnt get that... elaborate a bit
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[15:59] <pksato> loopback are a special device that copy input to one or more outputs.
[16:00] <arcanescu> hmmm
[16:00] <pksato> snd_aloop is for audio (alsa), like a vac on windows.
[16:00] <arcanescu> so you mean use one of the apps in the link to loopback
[16:01] <pksato> yes. video loopback are used to create special effects on real time.
[16:02] <arcanescu> ok ill try that
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[16:14] <timmmaaaayyy> hey ant.....its working exactly as i want without nodm. i just stole the part about unchecking the "hide system borders" thing then resizing the window.....working like a charm! thanks for that link!!!!!
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[16:25] <ant_thomas> No worries, glad I could help. I knew there would be something in there since it describes the exact same half screen issue and I had that too
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[16:27] <timmmaaaayyy> yea its very wierd how it does that.....but if you already have startx going, then you do the same command, it opens halfscreen for a split second, then switches to full screen
[16:27] <timmmaaaayyy> very odd
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[16:44] <timmmaaaayyy> ant_thomas: i need to replicate this for about 15 pis. any idea where chrome stores this screen size information that it's remembering??
[16:45] <timmmaaaayyy> i'm going to just dd this image and replicate it, but i'd like to know where this important information about chromium's screen size is stored
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[16:46] <bdavenport> random question, has anyone exposed their pi to tempatures of 100F or more?
[16:47] <gordonDrogon> what's that in real numbers?
[16:47] <bdavenport> 37.7~ C
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[16:48] <bdavenport> if I am doing the math right
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[16:48] <gordonDrogon> ok
[16:49] <bdavenport> im thinking about puting a pi in a NEMA box, but they tend to heat up in summer months sun, which is why I am asking
[16:49] <gordonDrogon> that's cooler than what mine run at normally.
[16:49] <bdavenport> thats onboard, whats the air temp around it?
[16:49] <gordonDrogon> "room temperature".
[16:49] <bdavenport> around 22.2c?
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[16:56] <Triffid_Hunter> bdavenport: rpi should be fine with ambient of 40c, it rarely hits ambient+20 and it's fine at 60
[16:56] <Triffid_Hunter> bdavenport: the built-in firmware will turn off your overclocking if it gets to 85c for reference
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[17:01] <bdavenport> Triffid_Hunter, thats good news, now to figure out how to get power to it while its 100ft in the air or figure out lightning protection....
[17:01] <SpeedEvil> lasers
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[17:03] <bdavenport> now thats an idea SpeedEvil, put a few solar panels under the nema box facing down, buy a few laser pointers, and see the power output of the solar panel....
[17:05] <IT_Sean> ...
[17:05] <bdavenport> (joking)
[17:05] <IT_Sean> I hope so. :p
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[17:06] <bdavenport> just trying to get a few dvb-t tunners a better signal, my home is basically in the bottom of a valley/hole
[17:07] <bdavenport> if I can get the pi or the antenna higher, and the only way to get it higher than my attic space is to put it outside on a tower
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[17:11] <Bushmills> masers :)
[17:13] <thesov> anyone know why when i use my raspi as a nas i get data corruption
[17:13] <thesov> i mean my usb disk is not some crappy one, its a friggin drobo
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[17:18] <Bushmills> overclocked?
[17:19] <Bushmills> usb flash drive? powered usb hub?
[17:19] <IT_Sean> did you set the config flag crappyUSB to false?
[17:20] <Bushmills> other usb devices connected to your raspberry?
[17:20] <gordonDrogon> ah, it's a Drobo. There's the problem :)
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[17:21] <gordonDrogon> (I have a good friend who works for Drobo - the issue is more likely to be power or overclocking on the Pi)
[17:22] <SpeedEvil> bdavenport: coax from the antennae is the sane way
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[17:30] <thesov> cd :(
[17:30] <thesov> it is overlocked, but only a little, that would cause the problem?
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[17:32] <gordonDrogon> who knows. turn it off just in-case, but I'd also check the psu & board voltage.
[17:33] <thesov> thanks... im using a usb port from a computer to power it
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[17:33] <thesov> i suppose that may not be enough
[17:34] <Bushmills> overclocking has been known to bear the potential to corrupt SD-cards
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[17:34] <Bushmills> mechanical disk drive, with rotating platters?
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[17:40] <Slash_Fury> Hey Bushmills: not sure if you caught it, but wicd ended up handling everything pretty well.
[17:40] <Bushmills> oh, that's good
[17:40] <Bushmills> but i did. i commented on it already.
[17:41] <Bushmills> saying something about "worked is past tense"
[17:41] <thesov> its a usb drive
[17:41] <Slash_Fury> Oh right, derp.
[17:41] <Slash_Fury> Still waking up :)
[17:41] <thesov> a drobo to be prcise
[17:42] <Bushmills> they got their own power supply.
[17:43] <Bushmills> another usb device connected to raspberry?
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[17:48] * [Saint] wishes drobo could handle a sane filesystem
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[17:49] <[Saint]> The 5D looks kinda nice, except for the being lumbered with NTFS or HFS part.
[17:49] <[Saint]> Nuts to that.
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[17:51] <timmmaaaayyy> anyone know how you code something like this into a script? http://articles.slicehost.com/assets/2007/11/8/mysql_install.jpg
[17:52] <timmmaaaayyy> or what this is called so i can properly get my google on
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[17:55] <Hoerie> [Saint] wishes drobo could handle a sane filesystem <-- isn't one of Drobo's key features that it has its own easily expanded raid filesystem thing?
[17:56] <nid0> yes, if you want a drobo with a normal filesystem you might just as well buy a different nas, as its filesystem is basically its selling point
[17:56] <[Saint]> Yes. But, that's besides the point.
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[17:56] <[Saint]> Being lumbered with a choice between NTFS and HFS is crap. :)
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[17:57] <Bushmills> timmmaaaayyy: for example like this: dialog --passwordbox foo 20 5
[17:58] <[Saint]> As far as I'm aware there's nothing technically stopping the use of beyondraid on a saner filesystem.
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[17:58] <[Saint]> save for the fact that the drobo just...doesn't seem to support one.
[17:59] <[Saint]> beyondraid isn't /theirs/, ...nor is it technically raid either, iiuc.
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[18:00] <Bushmills> timmmaaaayyy: raspbian comes with whiptail preinstalled to do pretty much the same
[18:01] <gordonDrogon> thought drobo supported ext3 ?
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[18:06] <timmmaaaayyy> whiptail did the trick. now i need to figure out how to make my variable exportable or usable in another script
[18:07] <Bushmills> if one is not called from the other, you'll have to go through a temp file
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[18:07] <Bushmills> echo $var > $tmp and read var < $tmp
[18:07] <Bushmills> or output it completely with name and =, then you can source tmp file from other script
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[18:09] <timmmaaaayyy> SWEET!!!! thanks much
[18:10] <SgrA> Hi, I'm on Arch Linux, and /bin/systemd has been moved to /usr/lib/systemd/systemd. On the desktop, I changed the bootloader reference. Do I need to do that anywhere on the Raspberry Pi?
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[18:12] <exoon> hi. did someone try to use the model b as xbmc with streaming from a mythtv backend? Is the raspberry pi fast enought?
[18:13] <linuxstb> exoon: I've never tried it, but you may want to look at the dedicated Pi myth frontend as well, instead of xbmc
[18:13] <exoon> linuxstb, can I use similar plugins with that setup?
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[18:15] <exoon> and another question is, if the raspberry is fast enough to run a gamegube or n64 emulator?
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[18:21] <Tex_Nick> will the Pi work with a passive VGA adapter, i know it would be minus audio
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[18:22] <axelm7> hi guys, can I suggest a change to http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads? The section that refers to Oracle JVM should also mention Mono which does not work correctly in soft float
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[18:23] <linuxstb> exoon: I doubt it (re: plugins). But it also seems that project has been inactive for a few months, so maybe isn't worthwhile - https://github.com/1stsetup/piMythclient
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[18:28] <Tex_Nick> ^ google answered that ... i should have googled first
[18:28] <linuxstb> axelm7: I don't think anyone here can fix that website
[18:30] <johnc-> well, mono will work on hard float so long as you don't do any floating point stuff :P
[18:33] <axelm7> I am chatting with the mono guys right now and they don't recommend it at all
[18:33] <johnc-> aye, you should be using softfp if you want to use mono right now
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[18:47] <axelm7> johnc is there a softfp equivalent of raspbian?
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[18:49] <axelm7> nevermind, stupid question
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[19:04] <gazzwi86> Has any used the Edimax EW-7811Un wifi dongle without a hub?
[19:04] <gazzwi86> I'm praying it will work as I have ordered 15
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[19:07] <nid0> itll work fine
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[19:07] <nid0> all those cheapo nano 150mbps adaptors use rtl8188 chipsets, which are plenty low power enough to run plugged straight into a pi
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[19:11] <gazzwi86> nid0: Ok, well Im running Occidentalis which is deviation from Raspian, will i need to install the drivers?
[19:12] <nid0> shouldnt do, support for the chipset is built in to raspbian
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[19:14] <gazzwi86> sweeeet!
[19:15] <gazzwi86> nid0: Thanks for calming my nerves
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[19:27] <hyppias> I plug in a USB drive (powered) but it does not show it does not show as /dev/sdaX. what can I do?
[19:27] <hyppias> ther is no sdaX at all, also not for the SD card
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[19:45] <hyppias> connect a powered USB HD to my Wheezy raspberry pi. It does not show up as /dev/sdaX. what do I do wrong?
[19:47] <ladoga> see what dmesg says when you plug it in
[19:50] <rymate1234> hyppias, it'll most likely be /dev/sdbX
[19:50] <ladoga> SD-card is /dev/mmcblk0
[19:50] <rymate1234> oh
[19:50] <ladoga> anyway dmesg shows what device it's assigned as (if recognized)
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[20:07] <ladoga> hyppias: you should see something like this when you plug the USB cable in http://paste.debian.net/4385/
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[21:01] <GuySoft> hey all, my pi seems to boot and fails to get an IP from the DHCP server over wifi, however if i issue "/etc/ini.d/networking restart" after the GUI starts it works fine, is there a way to get the networking to start a little later at boot?
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[21:15] <\\Mr_C\\> GuySoft, does it work reliable when its got an ip?
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[21:15] <GuySoft> \\Mr_C\\, yes, very
[21:15] <\\Mr_C\\> its should get the ip every time at boot
[21:15] <\\Mr_C\\> at least mine does
[21:15] <GuySoft> \\Mr_C\\, yes, it runs the DHCP offer, and hangs for a while, then fails
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[21:16] <\\Mr_C\\> have you tried messing with it from the text prompt to see different results?
[21:16] <GuySoft> I added to LXDE autostart "/etc/ini.d/networking restart" , and now it works, but it spends like a minute on startup and its annoying
[21:16] <\\Mr_C\\> disconnecting and reconnecting
[21:17] <GuySoft> \\Mr_C\\, no, it works fine after the boot has finished
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[21:17] <\\Mr_C\\> hmm
[21:17] <GuySoft> \\Mr_C\\, this is a startup issue
[21:17] <\\Mr_C\\> do you have a text of the bootup ?
[21:17] <\\Mr_C\\> so i can see whats going on with it
[21:18] <GuySoft> Ill have to screeshot the screen, do you have any advance experience with it? because this is probably related to the card taking time to "warm up" not a config issue
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[21:19] <\\Mr_C\\> what kind of card is it?
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[21:21] <elunaj> hi
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[21:24] <elunaj> I´m trying to wire a humidity sensor with GPIO to my raspberry but I guess I´m using either the wrong type of sensor or the wrong type of rc-bridge. Any experience out there with RC and capacitive sensors?
[21:24] <elunaj> wiring and reading a DS1280 as thermal sensor worked just fine
[21:25] <elunaj> I´m using this sensor: http://www.reichelt.de/index.html?;ACTION=7;LA=3;OPEN=0;INDEX=0;FILENAME=B400%252FFEUCHTESENSOR%2523PHI.pdf
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[21:26] <elunaj> and I tried it using a capacitor with 10microF and a resistor of 4,7KOhm
[21:26] <\\Mr_C\\> whats the model sensor? the humidity one
[21:27] <elunaj> unfortunately the GPIO-port didn´t switch to HIGH
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[21:27] <elunaj> it is a phillips 2322 691 90001
[21:28] <gordonDrogon> elunaj, so it's a variable capacitor.
[21:28] <gordonDrogon> it's very very low value.
[21:28] <elunaj> i do´nt know much about this type of sensor, what does this mean?
[21:28] <gordonDrogon> much easier to just buy something like an rht003
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[21:29] <elunaj> ok, what´s the difference between them?
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[21:29] <elunaj> does this mean that it is harder to detect the differences between low and high with such a low value sensor?
[21:29] <gordonDrogon> the one you have is a variable capacitor - you're supposed to use it to construct an oscillator, then measure the frequency...
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[21:30] <gordonDrogon> you can simulate that on the Pi, but not very accurately.
[21:30] <elunaj> but isn´t that the way the RC works?
[21:30] <elunaj> ah you mean I would need some type of realtime system like arduino?
[21:30] <gordonDrogon> You can connect a resistor in series with it.
[21:31] <gordonDrogon> then use the Pi to discharge it, then time how long it takes to charge.
[21:31] <gordonDrogon> not sure how you could calibrate it though.
[21:31] <elunaj> at the moment I have connected a resistor and a capacitor in series and I doing exactly what you write (measuring the time between Low and high)
[21:32] <elunaj> but it never happens to get to the HIGH value
[21:32] <gordonDrogon> So +3.3 -> R -> gpio -> sensor -> 0v ?
[21:32] <elunaj> it seems to just keep the LOW value
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[21:32] <gordonDrogon> you need to change the gpio to output and set it low to discharge, then set it to input and time how long it takes to get to 1.
[21:32] <elunaj> I wired it like http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2012/08/reading-analogue-sensors-with-one-gpio-pin/
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> if it never gets to 1 then something might be wrong.
[21:33] <gordonDrogon> yes, that ought to work, but the capacitance on the sensor here is much less than that.
[21:34] <elunaj> yes I use the code snippet from the link to discharge and then recharge the C. I guess that I might not have the right resistor/capacitor strenght
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> I'm not sure python would be fast enough either, however it might be.
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> personally, I'd just buy something like: http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/humidity-and-temperature-sensor-rht03-p-1034.html
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[21:34] <elunaj> ok, so the problem might be that the sensor I´m using just is was to sensible?
[21:34] <gordonDrogon> but maynoe only because I have a driver for those in wiringPi :)
[21:35] <elunaj> ok :)
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[21:36] <elunaj> I guess i will give the rth03 a try
[21:36] <gordonDrogon> it should be possible to do the analog stuff in the Pi that way - I have done it myself to read an LDR and an Apple II Joystick.
[21:36] <gordonDrogon> are you progrmaming in C or Pythin?
[21:37] <elunaj> a bit of both
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[21:37] <gordonDrogon> ok
[21:37] <pksato> bad, RPi lack of timers and counters like as on uC.
[21:37] <elunaj> but I think it easier to use python if I just play around a bit
[21:38] <gordonDrogon> pksato, you can get �S accuracy with gettimeofday()
[21:38] <gordonDrogon> but it's not a microcontroller by any means..
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[21:39] <elunaj> I also have some arduinos here but I liked the idea to feed the data directly into a little db and get acces through an apache on the rasperry
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[21:39] <elunaj> i have some bee hives and would like to measure temperature humdity and so on with the raspberry
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[21:40] <pksato> need external help to get data from analog world.
[21:40] <elunaj> due to the fact that i have wlan at the hives but lives somewhere else I could then have a look over the internet
[21:41] <elunaj> well there a some pretty cool tutorial for such stuff but I unfortunately already bought this sensor ;(
[21:42] <elunaj> so let´s see. probably i can use it for something different
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> Ah, did you post on the forums recently abotu the bees? Someone did - I id a reply as I have a similar project.
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> I'm using arduino and rht03's.
[21:42] <elunaj> no this wasn´t me
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> primarrily as I need it powered by batteries.
[21:43] <gordonDrogon> data capture is once every few days to a week by laptop & serial.
[21:43] <elunaj> I was here some months ago writing about a litle project with a ultrasonic sensor for my blind son
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[21:43] <jvcleave> anyone done anything with native MMAL? trying to see if I can get a texture from the camera like you can with video/OpenMax
[21:44] <elunaj> so you collect the data to an sd card or hold it in ram?
[21:45] <gordonDrogon> my plan is to use spi flash memory devices.
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[21:46] <elunaj> and you want to measure temperature and humidity also?
[21:46] <gordonDrogon> in several locations inside the hive, air pressure too and if possible hive weight.
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[21:46] <elunaj> cool :)
[21:47] <elunaj> have you thought about using infrared sensors to collect data about travelling bees?
[21:47] <gordonDrogon> however bees don't like sensors so will cover them with propolys in a few days - I suspect that'll affect the humidity readings somewhat...
[21:47] <gordonDrogon> no - I'm not the bee keeper, just the bee keepers friendly geek :)
[21:48] <elunaj> lol
[21:48] <gordonDrogon> I'll get paid in honey for this - with a bit of luck.... it's top-bar hives and they're not as productive as standard ones.
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[21:48] <elunaj> where are you located?
[21:48] <elunaj> I´m from germany
[21:49] <elunaj> we are using wooden hives here
[21:49] <elunaj> although there are some people using styropor also
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[21:50] <elunaj> my problem is that I´m working several hundred kilometers away from my hives
[21:50] <gordonDrogon> I'm in Devon, UK.
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[21:51] <steve_rox> that mean your under snow?
[21:51] <elunaj> how´s the bees year in the uk this year? we are very late here in germany.
[21:51] <elunaj> haha no
[21:51] <gordonDrogon> well - that was Princetown - about 14 miles from me.
[21:51] <KiltedPi> elunaj, I've hooked up a Thermistor
[21:51] <KiltedPi> to my raspberry
[21:51] <steve_rox> supposed to have snowed at devon
[21:51] <elunaj> ah
[21:51] <KiltedPi> What is it, SPI or i2C?
[21:51] <gordonDrogon> elunaj, spring is about 4-5 weeks late this year.
[21:52] <KiltedPi> Which kind of network have you got, which pins you using?
[21:52] <steve_rox> the UK is getting wacky weather
[21:52] <gordonDrogon> steve_rox, yes, at pricetown - in the middle of Dartmoor - I'm on the edge.
[21:52] <elunaj> yes
[21:52] <KiltedPi> Its lovely up here in Scotland
[21:52] <steve_rox> oh
[21:52] <KiltedPi> Mine was an SPI thermistor
[21:52] <KiltedPi> lemme find the datasheet-
[21:52] <elunaj> we have around 16°C here in Bonn at the moment
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[21:53] <KiltedPi> http://www.maximintegrated.com/datasheet/index.mvp/id/7273
[21:53] <KiltedPi> THats the datasheet for my pi friendly thermistor
[21:53] <KiltedPi> You are a beekeeper or something? :)
[21:53] <KiltedPi> Hives?
[21:53] <steve_rox> dr bees!
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[21:53] <ant_thomas> 9.1°C here in Manchester
[21:54] <elunaj> hi KiltedPi, yes there seems to be some bee keepers here :)
[21:54] <steve_rox> looking at how to repair lead acid batterys on utube , looks like it could be fun
[21:54] <KiltedPi> It doesn't measure humidity
[21:54] <KiltedPi> thats cool
[21:54] <IT_Sean> in before "COVERED IN BEEES!"
[21:54] <KiltedPi> What does a beekeeper need to measure? :)
[21:54] <elunaj> didn´t know that so much bee keepers or bee keepers friends are geeks as well ;)
[21:55] <KiltedPi> I love bee's. Still a mystery whats happening to them all huh?
[21:55] <KiltedPi> I reckon its the nicotene smoke
[21:55] <KiltedPi> I only saw my first bee 3 weeks ago
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[21:55] <elunaj> well, actually I do´nt need to measure something with electronics to keep my bees but it is just a big fun to do so
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[21:56] <elunaj> atm I have 9 hives and just splitted 3 of them last weekend
[21:56] <steve_rox> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYtXuBN1Hvc - DR Bees :-)
[21:56] <elunaj> but actually it´s very late this year, almost 5-6 weeks later as usually
[21:56] <steve_rox> my latest fave vid i think
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[21:57] <elunaj> lol
[21:58] <KiltedPi> The secret is the protocol
[21:58] <KiltedPi> Once you know that,-
[21:58] <KiltedPi> you know which pins to use- for example in SPI
[21:58] <KiltedPi> ((Sorry for slightly big post)
[21:58] <KiltedPi> RED, SO ------> MISO(PIN 21)
[21:58] <KiltedPi> BLACK, CS ----> CE0 (PIN 24) (Note: possibly CE1)
[21:58] <KiltedPi> YELLOW, SCK --> SCLK (PIN 23)
[21:58] <KiltedPi> WHITE, GND ---> GND (PIN 6)
[21:58] <KiltedPi> GREEN, VCC ---> 3.3v (PIN 1)
[21:58] <KiltedPi> Then its just a case of getting stuck into the hex address it gets copied to
[21:58] <elunaj> I havn´t tried SPI yet, just went for GPIO -- what´s SPI the abbreviation for?
[21:59] <KiltedPi> Its some kind of protocol
[21:59] <KiltedPi> ask gordon
[21:59] <KiltedPi> GPIO is just the collection of pins-
[21:59] <KiltedPi> "General purpose I/O"
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[21:59] <KiltedPi> If you use those pins- for an SPI connection-
[21:59] <KiltedPi> (The ones i linked) thats correalating directly with the GPIo
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[22:00] <KiltedPi> SO. CS. SCK. GND. VCC
[22:00] <KiltedPi> and the pin numbers
[22:00] <KiltedPi> on the GPIO header. (The wee pin board fellow)
[22:00] <elunaj> well atm I have a temperature sensor (DS1280) at GPIO4, an LED at GPIO17 and the humidity sensor at GPIO22
[22:00] <KiltedPi> DS1280?
[22:00] <KiltedPi> Lemme check its datasheet!
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[22:00] <elunaj> the DS1280 works just fine
[22:01] <KiltedPi> wait-
[22:01] <KiltedPi> What thermistor are you using though?
[22:01] <KiltedPi> like to detect temp?
[22:01] <elunaj> os sorry
[22:01] <elunaj> DS18S20
[22:02] <KiltedPi> heh
[22:02] <elunaj> yes this is to detect temperature
[22:02] <elunaj> ;)
[22:02] <KiltedPi> Have you looked at its datasheet?
[22:02] <elunaj> I welded a 1wire adapter to connect to the raspberry
[22:02] <KiltedPi> http://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/DS18S20.pdf
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[22:03] <KiltedPi> Yeah. I did the same with my thermistor
[22:03] <KiltedPi> One pin
[22:03] <elunaj> yes, as I said the DS18S20 works just fine. My problem is the humidity sensor I´m using
[22:03] <KiltedPi> Yep! seems pretty cool
[22:03] <elunaj> But i will give the rth03 a try
[22:03] <KiltedPi> (No pun intended)
[22:03] <KiltedPi> Yeah.
[22:03] <KiltedPi> right, dinner time!
[22:03] <elunaj> have a nice meal
[22:04] <elunaj> thnx people
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[22:05] <elunaj> gordon, will you release some informatio about your setup when you are done?
[22:05] <gordonDrogon> hi - sure.
[22:05] <gordonDrogon> it's going to be a while before I can get anything implemented though.
[22:05] <gordonDrogon> I've been away for 2-3 weeks and been busy with some family issues for a while, so have a lot of catching up to do.
[22:06] <elunaj> no problem, I´m not the fastest with this stuff anyway (just doing electronics in my spare time)
[22:07] <elunaj> but it would be cool if you could drop me an email when your setup is ready if you don´t mind.
[22:07] <elunaj> how many glasses of honey do you get for wiring the stuff? ;)
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[22:07] <gordonDrogon> not enough :)
[22:07] <elunaj> lol
[22:08] <elunaj> it´s never enough
[22:08] <gordonDrogon> Just check my blog from time to time - I'll be posting it there - https://projects.drogon.net/
[22:08] <elunaj> great, thnx
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[22:09] <elunaj> ah you are this guy. didn´t you write a library for C access to gpio as well?
[22:09] <elunaj> I remember that I used information from your blog when starting with gpio. this was a great help for me :)
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[22:15] <elunaj> I have to leave, thank you all for your help :) I´ll let you know when I progress with the stuff... bye
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[22:21] <gordonDrogon> Yes. I wrote wiringPi for GPIo access
[22:21] <gordonDrogon> ok.
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[22:22] <gordonDrogon> *sigh* just had a really abusive comment posted (or tried to be posted) to my blog.
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[22:23] <nid0> someone not liking wiringpi?
[22:23] <bertrik> gordonDrogon: don't let it get to you too much
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[22:24] <gordonDrogon> gave a fake email address, so I can't reply. Very odd to think that he could just post it and have it displayed. Oh well.
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[22:26] <johnc-> it happens
[22:26] <johnc-> my wife runs a blog that gets decent traffic, you'd be amazed what some people will write
[22:28] <gordonDrogon> they seem to like wiringPi, but whinged about ascii art in my code and me hiding the commands in my Makefiles.
[22:29] <gordonDrogon> there are 2344 comments - half by me as a reply but that's the first one which I feel is abusive.
[22:29] <oOoOo> some people just don't appreciate art
[22:30] <gordonDrogon> I'm trying to think where I've put some ascii art too!
[22:30] * plugwash has to say he hates makefiles that hide the commands
[22:30] <plugwash> it makes troubleshooting build problems a massive pain
[22:30] <gordonDrogon> my makefiles are not exactly complex.
[22:30] <gordonDrogon> and removing a single @ isn't rocket science for someone who really wants to.
[22:32] <plugwash> true it's makefiles that hide the commands AND use substitution in the rule names and god knows what else that really get me
[22:32] <gordonDrogon> I'm also not expecting others to debug my build process.
[22:32] * plugwash gets back to trying to set up wanna-build
[22:33] <chod> gordonDrogon: your work is appreciated
[22:33] <gordonDrogon> :)
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[22:46] <aeroot> is there v4l/v4l2 support for the new camera board or is it planned?
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[22:52] <gordonDrogon> Hm. forgot to lock chickens up. best do it now..
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[23:07] <steve_rox> http://www.geek.com/chips/raspberry-pi-proven-to-be-stable-when-submerged-in-liquid-nitrogen-1555235/
[23:07] <steve_rox> something of interest?
[23:10] <\\Mr_C\\> that is interesting
[23:11] <steve_rox> thought it may interest someone
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[23:11] <\\Mr_C\\> that liquid isnt conductive?
[23:12] <steve_rox> i dunno about liquid nitrogen
[23:12] <steve_rox> the moisture it would collect on the thing would be
[23:13] <steve_rox> but it would be ice
[23:13] <\\Mr_C\\> Oh, gimme a break, dude. Haven't you had chemistry? It's NITROGEN. A non-metal. And it's N2, which means that it's not going to be polar, like water is, hence, NO! No electrical conductivity! Which brings me to a couple of other things...
[23:13] <steve_rox> so on thaw out its a high chance of shorting
[23:13] <\\Mr_C\\> this is a comment someone posted
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[23:13] <steve_rox> oh
[23:14] <steve_rox> will run at -100'c wow
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[23:15] <\\Mr_C\\> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110823120500AAL0BDa
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[23:15] <\\Mr_C\\> i guess its not conductive
[23:15] <\\Mr_C\\> so many forums says its not
[23:15] <\\Mr_C\\> that would be an interesting project in the
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[23:16] <steve_rox> seems to be tough
[23:16] <steve_rox> allough the weakest thing so far i found to be the sd card reader
[23:17] <\\Mr_C\\> actually this video
[23:17] <\\Mr_C\\> http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=A0oG7jI9.pNRVkEApVlXNyoA?ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35&p=is+liquid+nitrogen+conductive&SpellState=&fr2=sp-qrw-corr-top
[23:17] <roll> yahoo search, what the hell?
[23:17] <\\Mr_C\\> says the liquid reduces conductivity
[23:17] <steve_rox> i never had any liquid nitro to play with :-P
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[23:18] <\\Mr_C\\> me either
[23:18] <\\Mr_C\\> closest i every got to it was dry ice
[23:18] <steve_rox> wonder who will be first to shove a pi in minerial oil
[23:20] <pksato> http://www.theverge.com/2012/8/31/3283375/intel-server-oil-immersion
[23:21] <\\Mr_C\\> mineral oil doesnt do it either
[23:21] <\\Mr_C\\> its used for cooling in some electronics
[23:22] <\\Mr_C\\> now on the other hand
[23:22] <\\Mr_C\\> mercury is not a good idea
[23:23] <steve_rox> haha
[23:23] <steve_rox> for many resions
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[23:23] <steve_rox> you got any merc?
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[23:25] <gordonDrogon> mercury is rather conductive.
[23:25] <gordonDrogon> I have tiny blob....
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[23:26] <steve_rox> i have some too
[23:26] * gordonDrogon squishes it and makes lots of tiny blobs...
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[23:26] <steve_rox> taken from a tilt switch
[23:26] <\\Mr_C\\> i wouldnt reomend touching it with bare hands
[23:26] <\\Mr_C\\> its poison
[23:26] <steve_rox> i put it in my mouth to give me a shiny smile
[23:26] <steve_rox> ;-)
[23:26] <gordonDrogon> oddly enough, mine was taken from a tilt switch too.
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[23:27] <steve_rox> yeah i wasent sure if it would have merc in it
[23:27] <steve_rox> so i was drilling it out to find out
[23:27] <steve_rox> and im like oh dear what do i do with it now
[23:27] <gordonDrogon> its relatively safe to touch, but it has a low vapour point.
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[23:28] <steve_rox> i put it in a sealed jar
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[23:29] <gordonDrogon> my blob is in one of those plastic bags with a seal thingy.
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[23:30] <steve_rox> im not sure what to do with it now , im just keeping it safe secure i guess
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[23:32] <cellardoor> Yo! can someone tell me what http://pi.samcater.com:61610 and http://blog.samcater.com:61610 say?
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[23:35] <plugwash> the first has animated gifs of a spinning raspberry and a penguin being fed
[23:35] <plugwash> the second says "it works!"
[23:35] <cellardoor> YES
[23:35] <cellardoor> NAMESERVER ON PI
[23:35] <cellardoor> *dances*
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[23:36] <gordonDrogon> nameserver on Pi? so apt-get install bind9 works then?
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[23:37] <gordonDrogon> ah well, zed time I think.
[23:37] <cellardoor> gordonDrogon: dnsmasq. It's going all round the houses. samcater.com (bought through google apps) has a nameserver redirect to my friends web hosting server. I used CPanel to put Cname redirects for both those sites to samcater.homelinux.org. That finally resolves to my home router IP address. I've never used multiple sites on Apache before :)
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[23:38] <cellardoor> Which is why I'm happy. Took me ages to realise that NameVirtualHost *:61610 was needed in /etc/apache2/ports.conf :)
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[23:39] <gordonDrogon> glad its working.
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[23:49] <zlate> The "Pi supply" from kickstarter, does it automaticly restart the Pi if it crashes or anyone know if it could be used for that purpose ? i.e if it runs as a server and stops working it needs a "hard reboot" ?
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[23:55] <ripzay> doesnt look like it can do that
[23:55] <ripzay> only had a quick glance at it but it doesnt appear to be 'intelligent'
[23:56] <zlate> what could that 2-pin cable be for?
[23:57] <ripzay> there is no 2 pin cable
[23:57] <ripzay> there's a 1 pin cable which looks like it goes to a GPIO pin
[23:58] <ripzay> looking just at the photos, all i can imagine it does is after the sudo halt command, the pi drops its power, which is 'watched' by that single wire
[23:59] <ripzay> and then the pisupply cuts the actual usb power, then when you press the on button, it gives the power back
[23:59] <ripzay> but.. i might be completely off the mark
[23:59] * chod cuts a slice
[23:59] <ripzay> i have no software on this machine to look at the schematic files, but they are available to download from the pisupply website if you want to look yourself
[23:59] <ripzay> you might be able to work out exactly what it does just based on those

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