#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-05-18

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

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[0:00] <harris> hi
[0:00] <Megaf> Hi
[0:01] <DeliriumTremens> hi
[0:02] <harris> whats new in the pi world
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[0:06] <Twist-> harris: The camera's shipping
[0:06] <harris> ok i knew that
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[0:12] <hagna> so my rasberrypi is on Debian GNU/Linux 7.0 and I noticed there is no /dev/dsp am I missing a kernel module?
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[0:14] <hagna> nm found it (modprobe snd_pcm_oss)
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[0:25] <harris> why you no be talking
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[0:32] <Phosie> harris: The I in IRC stands for idle.
[0:32] <harris> i know right
[0:32] <harris> Idle Right _____
[0:33] <got2b> anyone want to assist with more samba probs?
[0:34] <harris> sure i dont know what those are but ill help
[0:34] <got2b> I currently have samba working with authenticated users on share A. However, I want to make a public share B that you can connect to, browse and write to without needing password/user authentication.
[0:34] <Phosie> If you don't know what they are you probably wont be much help
[0:35] <harris> yeah i guess
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[0:39] <nxtec> got2b: IIRC you can set this up in smb.conf
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[0:44] <nxtec> got2b: there is a guest account = nobody option (probably commented out) that you'll need to uncomment
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[0:45] <nxtec> got2b: loads of docs online, http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/manpages-3/smb.conf.5.html for general samba config, and http://amazingrando.wordpress.com/2007/06/03/share-folders-via-samba-without-a-password-easy/ for specifically setting up shares without authentication
[0:45] <got2b> I know
[0:45] <got2b> I sent you a pm a few minutes ago with my conf info
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[0:46] <got2b> Warning... Text wall..
[0:46] <got2b> security = user
[0:46] <got2b> guest account = nobody
[0:46] <got2b> map to guest = bad password
[0:46] <got2b> [Shared]
[0:46] <got2b> comment = Guest Share
[0:46] <got2b> browsable = yes
[0:46] <got2b> path = /media/My Passport/Shared
[0:46] <got2b> writeable = yes
[0:46] <got2b> guest only = yes
[0:46] <got2b> guest ok = yes
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[1:29] <Tachyon`> oh that reminds me, I need to fix samba on my pi
[1:29] <Tachyon`> I have no write access for some reason
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[1:47] <harris> hi
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[2:35] <johnc-> I have arm_freq set to 1000 but cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_cur_freq is showing 700MHz, I have rebooted since configuring, what could be the issue here?
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[2:37] <chithead> maybe wrong cpu governor
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[2:38] <johnc-> I'm assuming the contents of the cpufreq file to be in kHz
[2:39] <johnc-> ahh, it's scaling it
[2:39] <johnc-> max freq says 1GHz
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[3:19] <thogue> anyone here have a streaming camera working ?
[3:19] <thogue> when I try to pipe to NC I just see output on the monitor of the Rpi, I need it make a connection to my OSX machine, but mplayer displays nothing
[3:19] <thogue> also my 256 pi really doesnt like running the camera
[3:19] <thogue> keeps crashing
[3:20] <thogue> my poly fuse is bridged, its on a tested 2.5 AMP 5.20 V psu :-/
[3:22] <Mogwai> thogue: Try this on the Pi: raspivid -w 320 -h 240 -t 999999 -fps 15 -o - | nc 5001 … and this on OS X: nc -l 5001 | mplayer -fps 15 -cache 1024 -
[3:23] <thogue> thanks mogwai, trying now.
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[3:24] <thogue> still seeing output on the monitor of the pi
[3:24] <thogue> (no gui )
[3:25] <Mogwai> thogue: You'll always get that output, even when streaming
[3:26] <thogue> kk, now it starts for a second flashes, and exits clean
[3:26] <thogue> there we go
[3:26] <thogue> lets see if I get video on my side, a lot farther than before, raspivid options helped a lot. I knew it needed to be tuned down.
[3:27] <thogue> Thanks a lot Mogwai
[3:27] <Mogwai> thogue: np .. and I have the same problem on my 512 pi .. playing with the camera frequently hangs and reboots the Pi .. I really don't know if it's power issues or flaky camera
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[3:28] <thogue> hmm, yeah, interesting, ill keep reporting back my issues.
[3:28] <thogue> seems to be stable now
[3:28] <thogue> I was wondering why my pi kept going offline while I was at work trying to get this working lol
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[3:30] <thogue> stream is crazy delayed
[3:30] <thogue> about 14seconds
[3:30] <thogue> lol
[3:31] <Mogwai> mm, might be because of the cache buffer ..never tried it without the cache argument to mplayer
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[3:32] <Flipo> Hello anyone driving >20ma leds on the pi ?
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[3:34] <thogue> my computer didnt like that ! lol
[3:34] <thogue> locked up for 5-10 seconds
[3:35] <thogue> Cannot seek backward in linear streams!
[3:35] <thogue> Seek failed
[3:35] <Mogwai> Hehe, maybe a smaller cache then
[3:35] <thogue> trying min cache (32)
[3:35] <thogue> still pissed lol,
[3:35] <thogue> keeps failing to seek
[3:36] <thogue> trying 64..
[3:36] <thogue> 128....
[3:38] <\\Mr_C\\> whats the correct lines that should be in /etc/apt/sources.list ?
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[3:38] <thogue> on rasparian ?
[3:38] <\\Mr_C\\> yes
[3:39] <\\Mr_C\\> ive seen so many variations
[3:39] <Mogwai> \\Mr_C\\: deb http://mirrordirector.raspbian.org/raspbian/ wheezy main contrib non-free rpi
[3:39] <thogue> nothing worked below 512 Mogwai
[3:40] <Mogwai> That's the line in the foundation image anyways
[3:40] <thogue> 512 seems even more pissed
[3:40] <\\Mr_C\\> thanks
[3:40] <thogue> yeah same here on mine.
[3:40] <\\Mr_C\\> so i dont need the archives or deb-src?
[3:41] <thogue> need , no.
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[3:44] <thogue> yeah I dont think mplayer is really designed to stream live.
[3:44] <thogue> or at least not heavily buffered
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[3:45] <thogue> Mogwai: strange.... making the resolution higher .... seems to greatly decrease the time...
[3:45] <thogue> went to 800x600 its now less than 2 seconds
[3:45] <thogue> (15 fps)
[3:46] <thogue> I tried lowering the FPS to 2 before to see if there was any improvement, no.
[3:52] <Mogwai> thogue: Hmm, I wonder if there's a reason why the examples all say -fps 31 for mplayer .. maybe it's a magic number :)
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[3:54] <thogue> well, fps didnt seem to change anything.
[3:54] <thogue> but RED certainly did
[3:54] <thogue> RES***
[3:54] <thogue> perhaps it has to downsample the res and its costly ??
[3:54] * thogue shrugs im sure it will all come out in time.
[3:55] <\\Mr_C\\> is this the latest? Linux x 3.6.11+ #450 PREEMPT
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[3:55] <Mogwai> Yup, I'm taking a chill pill and watching Badlands .. nite!
[3:56] <leftyfb> Did anyone here get the camera module? I got mine today but can't seem to take any pictures with it. raspistill just sits there forever
[3:56] <\\Mr_C\\> i just got mine today too
[3:56] <\\Mr_C\\> im installing it now
[4:03] <thogue> yes leftyfb , we were just discussing that.
[4:03] <thogue> I am able to take stills, and stream over the network.
[4:03] <leftyfb> how did you manage to do that?
[4:03] <leftyfb> raspistill -o file.jpg -v -n
[4:03] <leftyfb> it just sits there
[4:04] <leftyfb> in a terminal
[4:04] <leftyfb> forever
[4:04] <thogue> does your red light come on ?
[4:04] <leftyfb> no output
[4:04] <leftyfb> yes
[4:04] <leftyfb> still on
[4:04] <leftyfb> even after I CTRL+C
[4:04] <thogue> takes me about 3-4 seconds to grab a still with the" -v -n "
[4:05] <thogue> LMAO, leftyfb : if i add those options I segfault
[4:05] <thogue> try : raspistill -o file.jpg
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[4:05] <thogue> Question : whats your GPU /mem split ?
[4:06] <Mogwai> There's a bug with the -n option .. doesn't work
[4:06] <thogue> I am on 256 Pi, and when I had 64mb it was pretty angry. it would not stream without 128
[4:06] <leftyfb> 128
[4:06] <leftyfb> i'm a 512 pi
[4:06] <leftyfb> I'm not running X
[4:06] <thogue> drop the -n as Mogwai says. Any luck ?
[4:06] <leftyfb> nope
[4:06] <\\Mr_C\\> it works
[4:06] <leftyfb> WTF
[4:07] <leftyfb> \\Mr_C\\: what did you run?
[4:07] <leftyfb> also, are any of you NOT running X and it's working?
[4:07] <\\Mr_C\\> raspistill -o image.jpg
[4:07] <thogue> im NOT running X
[4:07] <\\Mr_C\\> raspivid -o video.h264
[4:07] <leftyfb> Fri May 17 22:06:48 EDT 2013
[4:07] <leftyfb> ^Cmmal: Aborting program
[4:07] <leftyfb> Fri May 17 22:07:15 EDT 2013
[4:07] <\\Mr_C\\> im not running it either
[4:07] <thogue> I never run X, X is evil.
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[4:07] <\\Mr_C\\> im in ssh
[4:07] <\\Mr_C\\> then i send it to windblows
[4:07] <\\Mr_C\\> and they both work
[4:07] <leftyfb> so is mine DOA?
[4:08] <thogue> "" raspistill -o file.jpg ""
[4:08] <\\Mr_C\\> ret rebooting
[4:08] <thogue> I would
[4:08] <thogue> unplug it
[4:08] <thogue> after halting of coarse
[4:08] <leftyfb> \\Mr_C\\: i've rebooted multiple times
[4:08] <leftyfb> ok
[4:08] <\\Mr_C\\> make sure the cables are flush
[4:08] <thogue> then replug it again, maybe connection is iffy, those ribon cables are bitchy
[4:09] <\\Mr_C\\> i left the sticky cover on the lens
[4:09] <\\Mr_C\\> still looks good with it on
[4:09] <thogue> are you totally headless? if you have a monitor on the PI the image will display on the screen (regardless of X)
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[4:10] <Mogwai> leftyfb: Oh, and we're also assuming that you have enabled the camera in raspi-config
[4:10] <leftyfb> Mogwai: yup
[4:10] <leftyfb> thogue: I have a monitor plugged in via HDMI -> DVI
[4:10] <\\Mr_C\\> doesnt it need enabled to install the bloody shell tools?
[4:10] <\\Mr_C\\> hehe
[4:11] <leftyfb> woah
[4:11] <leftyfb> ok, it's working now
[4:11] <thogue> yeah did you enable is raspi-config ?
[4:11] <thogue> nice.
[4:11] <thogue> !
[4:11] <leftyfb> the fullscreen preview on the monitor is pretty neat
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[4:12] <\\Mr_C\\> leftyfb
[4:12] <\\Mr_C\\> so the cable wasnt in right?
[4:12] <leftyfb> seems like it
[4:12] <\\Mr_C\\> lucky you didnt cook it
[4:13] <leftyfb> looked fine to me
[4:13] <\\Mr_C\\> yea that fulls creen thing is neet
[4:13] <leftyfb> is there any way to speed up taking the pic? that lag is insane
[4:13] <\\Mr_C\\> well
[4:13] <\\Mr_C\\> maybe it has to activate the board
[4:14] <\\Mr_C\\> same with all webcams and crap
[4:14] <\\Mr_C\\> even with ssh it will activate the monitor
[4:17] <leftyfb> I was using a webcam before and it would take half the time
[4:17] <\\Mr_C\\> be happy dude
[4:17] <\\Mr_C\\> takes time to learn new things and get it the way you like
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[4:18] <Mogwai> leftyfb: Try -t0
[4:23] <\\Mr_C\\> -t, --timeout : Time (in ms) before takes picture and shuts down (if not specified, set to 5s)
[4:24] <leftyfb> looks like we have a winner :)
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[4:24] <\\Mr_C\\> hehe
[4:25] <\\Mr_C\\> yea luckily they did all the coding to start us out
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[4:41] <\\Mr_C\\> i found a bug , -vf -hf dont work for still demo
[4:42] <\\Mr_C\\> does work in video demo though
[4:42] <frankdrey> is there a version of Arch Linux that's even more bare for the Pi?
[4:42] <frankdrey> the current one includes too much by my (and Arch's) standards
[4:42] <leftyfb> \\Mr_C\\: -vf is working for me
[4:42] <leftyfb> not in a demo mode though
[4:42] <[Saint]> How do you get "even more bare" than a base-install?
[4:42] <[Saint]> ...you're talking about a bare kernel at that point.
[4:42] <\\Mr_C\\> yea, i dont want to save a file i just want to see it stay on the screen
[4:42] <leftyfb> ah
[4:43] <frankdrey> [Saint]: iirc it included much more than standard Arch
[4:43] <frankdrey> I don't remember exactly, I'm about to go try the latest version out
[4:43] <[Saint]> frankdrey: yes, it has to. you need the firmware.
[4:44] <\\Mr_C\\> hehe
[4:44] <\\Mr_C\\> it dont like this
[4:44] <\\Mr_C\\> raspivid -d -vf -t 30000
[4:44] <[Saint]> that's all it is, base arch install and the videocore fw.
[4:44] <frankdrey> well, yes, but other than basics...eh let me go take a look again heh
[4:44] <\\Mr_C\\> crashes it
[4:44] <[Saint]> I think they may have added wifi and bt packages to the base though.
[4:45] <\\Mr_C\\> lefty
[4:45] <\\Mr_C\\> see if this works
[4:45] <\\Mr_C\\> raspivid -d -vf -t 30000
[4:45] <leftyfb> sure
[4:45] <leftyfb> though I have no reason to use this for video anytime soon
[4:46] <leftyfb> yup, it's working
[4:46] <leftyfb> hm
[4:46] <leftyfb> went black
[4:46] <leftyfb> that supposed to do that?
[4:47] <\\Mr_C\\> mine too
[4:47] <\\Mr_C\\> and the light stayed on
[4:47] <leftyfb> yup
[4:47] <leftyfb> and it won't come back
[4:47] <\\Mr_C\\> yea i had to reboot it
[4:47] <\\Mr_C\\> hehe
[4:47] <\\Mr_C\\> a bug
[4:48] <leftyfb> love this pi though
[4:48] <leftyfb> got me a GPS hooked up to it
[4:48] <\\Mr_C\\> what kind of gps?
[4:48] <\\Mr_C\\> model
[4:48] <leftyfb> http://www.adafruit.com/products/746
[4:49] <leftyfb> it sets the time system time as soon as it gets a signal, then goes on to take stills every 3 seconds with timestamps and gps coords in a log
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[4:50] <leftyfb> then I'm taking the stills and gps coords and generating a stop-motion video with a google map in the corner with a trail of my travels
[4:50] <\\Mr_C\\> take off the -d and it works fine
[4:50] <\\Mr_C\\> raspivid -vf -t 30000
[4:51] <\\Mr_C\\> that demo mode is the problem
[4:52] <leftyfb> man this is gonna be nice
[4:52] <leftyfb> i'm going on a 2 week trip to FL from MA
[4:52] <leftyfb> this is going to live in our car for the whole trip
[4:53] <frankdrey> Is it normal that a framebuffer image viewer can get the gpu quite warm after a while?
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[4:53] <leftyfb> already got the car wired up with the GPS antenna and constant and switch power feeds ... going to feed those into a relay so the pi stays on when the car shuts off so I can hit a button and do a proper shutdown
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[4:54] <frankdrey> meh, so i just realized i don't have a monitor with DVI ports around and all i have is an HDMI to DVI cable >.>
[4:55] <\\Mr_C\\> they make a hdmi to vga
[4:56] <\\Mr_C\\> or you can use the RCA
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[5:03] <[Saint]> the HDMI->VGA connector/adapter things that *work*, are quite expensive.
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[5:03] <[Saint]> The cheap ones are just vodoo held together with string and chewing gum.
[5:04] <[Saint]> Best to just use an RCA cable and a television.
[5:04] <[Saint]> Average Joe _should_ have these things in their house.
[5:04] <thogue> DVI - > VGA doesnt exist
[5:04] <thogue> standard dvi connector has VGA on it.
[5:05] <thogue> all the cables do is breakout the pins to a vga.
[5:05] <thogue> as far as I know, HDMI does not.
[5:05] <frankdrey> well, i have the right stuff at home
[5:05] <frankdrey> I'm at church right now, as the pi project i'm working on is for my church
[5:06] <thogue> there is no such thing as hdmi to dvi cable
[5:06] <frankdrey> and there are no composite monitors i can grab a hold of
[5:06] <thogue> there is only such a thing as a "converter"
[5:06] <[Saint]> Science and religion...strange bedfellows.
[5:06] <frankdrey> i have one right in front of me ;)
[5:06] <frankdrey> [Saint]: they can coexist ;)
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[5:06] <thogue> frankdrey: hope you actually have a converter, or your gonna have a bad time
[5:06] <frankdrey> thogue: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QYZZFK/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[5:07] <[Saint]> [15:06:03] <thogue> there is no such thing as hdmi to dvi cable <---- ummmmmm....no, just....no.
[5:07] <[Saint]> I'm using one right now.
[5:07] <frankdrey> thogue: works just dandy
[5:07] <frankdrey> i think you mean hdmi to vga?
[5:07] <[Saint]> I suspect he does, yes.
[5:07] <frankdrey> even that wouldn't be too difficult to create in a cable
[5:07] <[Saint]> Either that or he's just plain wrong. One of the two ;)
[5:07] <frankdrey> as most DVI outputs include analog
[5:08] <thogue> yes frankly
[5:08] <frankdrey> ah, but hdmi doesn't
[5:08] <thogue> HDMI outputs do not to my knowlege
[5:08] <frankdrey> so hdmi -> vga = nono
[5:08] <frankdrey> :P
[5:08] <thogue> yea.
[5:08] <frankdrey> without a convertor
[5:08] <thogue> maybe I read you wrong then.
[5:08] <thogue> cause sounds like were all on the same page
[5:08] <frankdrey> I have a hdmi to dvi convertor
[5:08] <frankdrey> and no dvi monitors :P
[5:08] <thogue> AH
[5:08] <thogue> gotcha.
[5:08] <frankdrey> s/convertor/cable/
[5:09] <thogue> lol
[5:09] <thogue> :)
[5:09] <frankdrey> well, there's one but it has some weird proprietary hp power plug that i don't have :/
[5:09] <[Saint]> Must be a fairly old monitor then?
[5:09] <frankdrey> [Saint]: yeah, there are 2 to be exact heh
[5:09] <[Saint]> Most have had HDMI/DVI/D-SUB(VGA) for years
[5:10] <thogue> Why don't you just go headless? or are you worried about being in some kind of troubleshooting situation ?
[5:10] <frankdrey> thogue: it's a display board :)
[5:10] <frankdrey> kinda hard without a screen ;)
[5:10] <[Saint]> Heh. Gotcha. :)
[5:10] <thogue> I guess im a totall idiot and lost then.
[5:10] <frankdrey> lol
[5:11] <frankdrey> I wonder how strange it would be if I got some chairs up for me to stand on and have the Pi dangle from the TV hanging from the ceiling...
[5:11] <\\Mr_C\\> i got an hdmi to vga quite cheap and it also has a headphone jack for sound
[5:11] <frankdrey> \\Mr_C\\: yeah, we're supposed to get a good monitor (with powered usb ports to power the Pi) that we're going to use
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[5:12] <thogue> \\Mr_C\\: thats pretty slick, hows the quality on that out of the PI ? I bet it beats the current analog audio.
[5:12] <frankdrey> but i came solely to work on the project today, and...yeah....what do i do now? xD
[5:13] <\\Mr_C\\> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-MF-HDMI-Male-to-VGA-Female-w-Audio-Output-Adapter-for-PC-Laptop-DVD-/380629013411?pt=US_Video_Cables_Adapters&hash=item589f41d3a3
[5:14] <frankdrey> i guess i might as well start working on the program i wanted to create for creating the media sticks :D (you plug in a flash drive, the pi reboots (lulz) without harming the r/o filesystem, and bashrc starts playing stuff off the usb drive :D)
[5:14] <thogue> ^ LMAO
[5:14] <frankdrey> I'm actually thankful for the usb voltage drop, saves me a headache setting up udev to run stuff on usb plugin :D
[5:15] <thogue> I dont know about that. Never had any udev headaches for my personal linux use.
[5:15] <thogue> but sure thing why not ;)
[5:15] <frankdrey> meh...
[5:15] <thogue> it always makes sure the wifi stick I plug it becomes the DW
[5:15] <frankdrey> i once tried to set up a bluetooth keyboard on Arch through udev
[5:15] <thogue> GW**
[5:15] <frankdrey> and bluez
[5:16] <frankdrey> ended up with kernel panics, random disconnects, and it even somehow broke my wifi
[5:16] * thogue snickers
[5:16] <thogue> sounds awful.
[5:17] <frankdrey> so yeah, my plan is to have a java program that whoever can stick into their computer and create playlists and copy files to the usb stick for the display board
[5:17] <\\Mr_C\\> ive noticed alot of crap seems to get cooked with the power on and hot plugging anything usb
[5:17] <\\Mr_C\\> ive had usb wifi's usb card adapters and sd cards get cooked
[5:17] <frankdrey> java because i know that at least 2 people who would use this have Macs
[5:18] <frankdrey> \\Mr_C\\: sd card? the file system or the physical card?
[5:18] <\\Mr_C\\> the actual card
[5:18] <frankdrey> hmmm
[5:18] <\\Mr_C\\> cooked a 32 gig class 10 today
[5:18] <\\Mr_C\\> dont know how
[5:18] <\\Mr_C\\> all i did was format it and remove it
[5:18] <\\Mr_C\\> safe remove didnt seem to help i guess
[5:18] <\\Mr_C\\> because i always do that first
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[5:19] <frankdrey> well, this is my old 4gb that i used in my HTC Dream (had a swap partition and everything :D) so if it does die, I will work on figuring out udev while the new sd card is shipped heh
[5:19] <\\Mr_C\\> i ahve a crap load of 4gb cards, but i liked this 32 gig one
[5:20] <frankdrey> and seeing as I ran 2.2, 2.3, and even 4.0 on the g1, lots of swapping was done lol
[5:21] <frankdrey> \\Mr_C\\: ah well that sucks :/ does the computer recognize it at all?
[5:21] <frankdrey> anything in dmesg as you plug it in?
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[5:24] <frankdrey> meh i just installed 32 bit jdk...
[5:24] <frankdrey> too lazy to fix
[5:24] <frankdrey> w/e
[5:25] <\\Mr_C\\> it recognizes it
[5:26] <\\Mr_C\\> it wont do a quick format
[5:26] <\\Mr_C\\> but a slow format will goto 99% then fail
[5:26] <frankdrey> hmmm
[5:27] <frankdrey> yeah, def. could be partitioning
[5:27] <frankdrey> have you checked it out in Linux?
[5:27] <\\Mr_C\\> yes
[5:27] <\\Mr_C\\> i tried to isntall to it
[5:27] <\\Mr_C\\> journal error
[5:28] <frankdrey> try write zeroes to it?
[5:28] * [Saint] is pretty sure that's not what frankdrey meant :)
[5:28] <\\Mr_C\\> yes
[5:29] <frankdrey> *shrug*
[5:30] * frankdrey is currently figuring out JavaFX
[5:31] <frankdrey> what's hilarious is that I barely know Java...C guy
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[5:36] <frankdrey> yeah...i have no idea what i'm doing >.>
[5:37] * frankdrey switches to C and Allegro and hopes somebody will update/compile code for Mac for him
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[5:38] <\\Mr_C\\> are there any stand alone screens that will run on the dsi connector alone?
[5:40] <Aivaras> I don't undedrstand - my wifi on RPi works if eth is connected. :D
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[5:53] <g2nightmare> can anyone help me set up email forwarding on my pi
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[6:33] <g2nightmare> has anyone set up email forwarding on their raspberry pi?
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[6:34] <IanCormac> In what context? Like, for Gmail, or for a POP server or something?
[6:35] <g2nightmare> well i want a me@domain.com to forward to my outlook
[6:35] <IanCormac> Do you own the domain?
[6:36] <g2nightmare> yes
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[6:36] <g2nightmare> im using freedns.afraid.org
[6:37] <IanCormac> Hmm. You may have better luck in a networking IRC. This isn't really raspi-specific
[6:39] <g2nightmare> do you have an irc channel i can go to?
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[6:41] <IanCormac> I'm not sure, try #networking or #sysadmin or something
[6:41] <Twist-> That's not a networking question either. It's an email server configuration topic.
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[6:47] <IanCormac> Yeah, but I don't think there's an IRC for that
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[6:49] <Twist-> Sure there is. The channel for whichever MTA you're running
[6:49] <IanCormac> Well then, that's where to be
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[8:39] <gordonDrogon> morning!
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[8:46] <johnc-> hi
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[8:49] <nerdboy> hei
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[9:13] <geordie> hi
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[10:06] * Xark links to the prettiest 'lil cluster yet -> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_r3z1jYHAc&feature=youtu.be
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[10:15] <ShiftPlusOne> Xark, best one I've seen so far.
[10:15] <Xark> I thought it was quite well done also.
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[10:22] <ShiftPlusOne> Hm, total cost for the whole thing was just under $2k
[10:22] <ShiftPlusOne> Only half of that was for the pi.
[10:23] <ShiftPlusOne> Hope the university paid for that.
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[10:25] <Bushmills> ShiftPlusOne: i know of a 288 cpu cluster for $450 :)
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[10:26] <ShiftPlusOne> O_o
[10:26] <Bushmills> http://www.greenarraychips.com/home/documents/greg/images/EVB001-oblique2.jpg
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[10:27] <ShiftPlusOne> Ah, that doesn't count
[10:27] <Bushmills> the cpu chips have each 144 independent cpu cores each, connected through internal bus, forming a lattice of cpus
[10:28] <Bushmills> so technically, the chip serves as kinda box for the cpus :)
[10:28] <ShiftPlusOne> What are the applications for these chips?
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[10:28] <Bushmills> low power high speed. "enhancers" - apps using them as coprocessors, for example
[10:28] <bts__> ave guys
[10:29] <Bushmills> an original application for a predecessor was as router coprocessor for autorouters
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[10:30] <Bushmills> (the chip pulls less power than a raspberry with full load of all cpus)
[10:32] <sile> Hi! I think my raspberry is dead, it has a faint green light in the OK LED, help please :_
[10:32] <Bushmills> and given that (dedecessors) used pretty large structure sizes, they were easier to obtain radiation hardened, which made them interesting processors for extra-terrestrial missions.
[10:33] <Bushmills> nasa was using them for decades
[10:33] <ShiftPlusOne> sile, doesn't sound dead. Is the red one still on?
[10:33] <ShiftPlusOne> Bushmills, what about an application for mere mortals like us?
[10:33] <Bushmills> well, it's a bunch of cpus.
[10:34] <sile> yep, the red is still on
[10:34] <Bushmills> they run programs, and they can be programmed for.
[10:34] <ShiftPlusOne> Though Rob from the foundation and ardusat folks did do some work on the pi to make it usable in space as well, so that's pretty cool.
[10:34] <Bushmills> (actually, they machine language is what would be considered a high-level language)
[10:34] <Bushmills> their
[10:34] <sile> but I don't get any signal on my TV, that rainbow thingy
[10:35] <ShiftPlusOne> sile, it's not finding bootcode.bin (either it's not reading the sd card, or the file isn't there or is corrupt)
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[10:36] <sile> hmmm, I'm plugging it without any SD card
[10:36] <ShiftPlusOne> well.... there's your problem XD
[10:36] <sile> oops
[10:36] <sile> no SD card, no rainbow thingy then? XD
[10:36] <ShiftPlusOne> no sd card, no nothing.
[10:37] <sile> OK, i'll reformat the card
[10:37] <sile> thanks!
[10:37] <ShiftPlusOne> sile, for future reference http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting
[10:37] <sile> =]
[10:37] <sile> ok, thank you very much
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[10:37] <ShiftPlusOne> np
[10:39] <sile> I did some research and ignored the SD card issues, I'm dumb :B
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[10:39] <ShiftPlusOne> happens
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[11:10] <bts__> what do you think about controlling engines via gpio logic output this way? http://i.imgur.com/HabFeAb.png - there is pulse wave source instead of logic output just to simulate
[11:11] <bts__> changing intervals between 0V / 5 V would probably affect the voltage on motor
[11:11] <Triffid_Hunter> bts__: generally you want to avoid your transistors running in linear mode, that will encourage them to run in linear
[11:12] <bts__> is it bad for them to work that way? should i use them rather 0 / 1?
[11:12] <Triffid_Hunter> bts__: P=VI. when a transistor is off, I is zero thus no heat is dissipated. when a transistor is on HARD, V is quite small, thus heat is minimal when both V and I are significant, it makes LOTS and LOTS of heat and genereally emits fire
[11:12] <Triffid_Hunter> bts__: linear mode is when both V and I are significant
[11:13] <bts__> oh, thank you for this explaination
[11:14] <bts__> i'm quite a newbie, didn't know about that dependency
[11:14] <Triffid_Hunter> bts__: if you want to drive small motors, grab a L293D or similar. if you want to drive bigger ones, grab HIP4082 and some mosfets with nice low Rds(on)
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[11:14] <bts__> so probably it would be better to use digital-analog converter?
[11:14] <Triffid_Hunter> bts__: no. you run a pulsed digital current into the motor, let its rotor intertia sort it out
[11:14] <Triffid_Hunter> inertia*
[11:14] <Triffid_Hunter> it's called PWM
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[11:25] <bts__> so with L293D I would be able to control motor using only one gpio pin & separate voltage source, am I right? apart from PWM, as there is only one PWM pin and I need two motors
[11:28] <bts__> hm, no, I would need more pins
[11:28] <bts__> anyway, thank you for the help - I'll just read something more about this l293
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[11:42] <Triffid_Hunter> bts__: you may want to get an arduino to handle the low level signalling stuff, they're excellent at it
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[11:45] <gordonDrogon> Pi is fine for simple motor control. no need to complicate it with an Arduino.
[11:45] <gordonDrogon> You just need some sort of buffer/amplifier to take the Pi's signals to that which your motor needs and off you go.
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[11:46] <gordonDrogon> If you're not sure about making a circuit, then look at the Piface and Gertboards.
[11:47] <gordonDrogon> Piface motor control with speed control: http://i.imgur.com/HabFeAb.png
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[11:48] <ShiftPlusOne> gordonDrogon, looks like a mispaste there
[11:49] <gordonDrogon> bother. silly X C&P buffers.
[11:49] <gordonDrogon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_51o2cUZXY
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[12:01] <bts__> this piface seems to be very friendly - altough I'm afraid that there would be no educational value for me using it ;) maybe I'll somehow try to build something like that from scratch
[12:03] <gordonDrogon> it's not hard to breadboard stuff like it.
[12:04] <gordonDrogon> right. that's the quick 2 wire analog board drivers for wiringPi written & tested - all I need to do now is write about it..
[12:04] <gordonDrogon> but it's a nice day - and I feel a BBQ coming on ...
[12:06] <bts__> ok, it's time for me to go away - you're very helpful, thank you once again and cya
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[12:48] <Hoerie> <gordonDrogon> but it's a nice day - and I feel a BBQ coming on ... <-- lucky you, rain and wind here
[12:50] <gordonDrogon> :)
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[12:50] <gordonDrogon> just back from the butchers with some nice meats.
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[12:50] <gordonDrogon> actually, it's not as sunny as it was forecast, still... http://www.dartcom.co.uk/dartcam/index.php
[12:50] <Hoerie> my freezer's already loaded, just waiting for better weather
[12:51] <Hoerie> looks quite good :-)
[12:51] <gordonDrogon> our frezers mostly empty right now. might het another 1/2 pig at some point.
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[13:09] <FR^2> Hmm. Lots of 50Hz humming on the audio. Do you think adding some iron cores around all the cables could help?
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[13:14] <gordonDrogon> I guess it depends where it's coming from.
[13:14] <gordonDrogon> I'd stick a 'scope on the 3.3v supply first.
[13:15] <gordonDrogon> (assuming you're on about the 3.5mm jack output audio on the Pi...)
[13:17] <FR^2> A scope would be nice. ;) A few weeks ago I was this close to buying one for 250 EUR, but then 99,9% of the time it would be lying there attracting dust.
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[13:18] <gordonDrogon> yea, I know what you mean.
[13:18] <gordonDrogon> I did buy one of the little mini DSO units. and while it does sit there gather dust, the few times I've needed to use it, it's been very nice to have to hand.
[13:19] <gordonDrogon> e.g. this morning looking at some I2C stuff...
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[13:21] <FR^2> That's my other thing with raspi: The gpio-to-1-wire Solution doesn't seem to support many sensors (after about 10, no more get recognized, so it seems); So I want to use a i�C to 1-wire Bus Master, but that tiny IC has to be soldered on a tiny board ;)
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[13:22] <ozzzy> is it possible to connect a pi to a win7 machine wirelessly without a router in between?
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[13:25] <Kane> o/
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[13:28] <gordonDrogon> ozzzy, yes - it's just another PC on the LAN.
[13:28] <ozzzy> playing with 'ad hoc networks'
[13:29] <gordonDrogon> FR^2, you might try increasing the drive strength on the 1-w bus, but it's all 3.3v, so who knows.
[13:29] <SpeedEvil> FR^2: likely you're messing up the bus topology
[13:29] <gordonDrogon> FR^2, gpio drive 0 7
[13:29] <ozzzy> I tried 'virtual router'... but the pi didn't see it
[13:29] <SpeedEvil> have you read the 'creating reliable one wire networks'
[13:29] <SpeedEvil> app note
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[13:30] <FR^2> SpeedEvil: Linear bus :)
[13:31] <gordonDrogon> I never did like 1-wire stuff.
[13:31] <FR^2> SpeedEvil: Of course it could be that the whole experimental setup has too much emc disturbances coming to the bus.
[13:32] <FR^2> gordonDrogon: I want to try it using that i2c-to-1wire Bus master IC, but I'm not that used to soldering anymore, so this will take some time and practice :)
[13:32] <gordonDrogon> FR^2, isn't there any ready-made?
[13:33] <FR^2> gordonDrogon: Sure, just connect those pins of the SMD IC to the raspberry pi :)
[13:34] <gordonDrogon> FR^2, well, quite + power & ground, but I wondered if there was a breakout board ready made - but a quick google isn't turning anything up.
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[13:34] <FR^2> I'll manage - it's only a matter of time :D
[13:36] <FR^2> But the thing is that when I'm enthusiastic, I start several "projects" at the same time... raspberry pi with pulseaudio as a network audio sink (stops after a while); 1-wire temperature measurement network; counting the rotation of the ferrraris wheel of my flat's power meter; ...
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[13:40] <gordonDrogon> :)
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[13:44] <FR^2> And still I was bored last sunday evening and since I didn't have anything to do, I stumbled so that my forehead collided with the corner of the window ledge ;)
[13:45] <SpeedEvil> FR^2: search eBay for currentcost
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[13:46] <SpeedEvil> there are useful mains power meter pats from then
[13:46] <SpeedEvil> parts
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[14:00] <FR^2> SpeedEvil: Sounds like an integrated system with a company tracking the data?
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[14:02] <SpeedEvil> they sell tgtre
[14:02] <SpeedEvil> the clamps for about 7 quid
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[14:13] <KanjiMonster> morning
[14:15] <KanjiMonster> I was wondering, are there any "stable" releases of bootcode.bin/start.elf for build integration? cloning the repo/downloading a tgz from a certain revision pulls a lot of unwanted/needed files in (and still weighs at 150~180 MiB for the tgz version)
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[14:15] <chithead> I guess the videocore firmware is co-developed with the kernel code
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[14:22] <KanjiMonster> chithead: well, I want to build my own kernel, so I couldn't care less for the (kernel/module) binaries ;)
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[15:05] <pellis> hello
[15:05] <pellis> what is vcgencmd? does it originate from the firmware?
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[15:09] <ShiftPlusOne> pellis, could you rephrase that? I am not sure what you're asking exactly.
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[15:10] <pellis> there's a command on the pi, called vcgencmd
[15:11] <pellis> you can use it to get the output of temperature for example
[15:11] <ShiftPlusOne> ...yes, I got that part.
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[15:11] <gyeben> hi
[15:11] <pellis> i'm wondering if this is a standard Linux command or something custom
[15:11] <ShiftPlusOne> pellis, custom.
[15:12] <pellis> the reason i'm asking is that i'm building a temperature monitoring service, and i'm wondering if to use that, or try a standard Linux package
[15:12] <ShiftPlusOne> pellis, it comes from here https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/opt/vc/bin. I beleive the source should be somewhere as well, but I haven't stumbled upon it yet.
[15:12] <pellis> problem is - i'm unsure if a standard Linux package will work on the Pi for this
[15:14] <ShiftPlusOne> pellis, although it's best to use vcgencmd, you could try other methods. For example, you can read /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp too
[15:14] <gyeben> does anyone know how to set up dosbox so there are no black borders everywhere? i tried modifying settings in dosbox's configuration file but always ended up with a frozen dosbox and/or a black screen
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[15:14] <x29a> pellis: root@rpi4:~# sensors-detect
[15:15] <pellis> ShiftPlusOne, well since i'm cross-compiling, i would love to test the code locally first, on a standard linux
[15:15] <x29a> says /sys/bus/pci/devices: No such file or directory at /usr/sbin/sensors-detect line 3003.
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[15:16] <chithead> for lm-sensors you need CONFIG_SENSORS_BCM2835 enabled in your kernel
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[15:16] <pellis> so the easiest way would be vcgencmd?
[15:16] <ShiftPlusOne> in my opinion, it would be the best way.
[15:17] <ShiftPlusOne> As for cross-compiling, you can have a script copy the binary to the pi and run it through ssh.
[15:17] <pellis> though this works pretty easy: /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
[15:17] <ShiftPlusOne> if all you need is temperature that works great, yes.
[15:18] <pellis> ShiftPlusOne, zone0 is for the first CPU?
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[15:18] <ShiftPlusOne> are there any others?
[15:20] <pellis> no, i'm just trying to learn.. looks like no docs for this api.. any pointers?
[15:23] <ShiftPlusOne> Yeah, I would assume it's the cpu/gpu temp (there wouldn't be much difference within the chip, as I understand it).
[15:23] <pellis> understood
[15:24] <pellis> btw - can i update my firmware at any time? doesn't matter what distro i'm using?
[15:24] <pellis> because i just bumped into this bug
[15:24] <pellis> https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/132
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[15:25] <ShiftPlusOne> yes, you can update any time, as long as you use rpi-update or know what you're doing if you're doing it manually.
[15:25] <ShiftPlusOne> there might be some issues with fedora and rpi-update, I don't know. I just know it works fine on Arch and Raspbian.
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[16:21] <voldyman> guys something weird is happening
[16:21] <voldyman> when i do GPIO.output(11, True) nothing happens
[16:22] <voldyman> but on GPIO.output(11, False) the led lights up
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[16:23] <KanjiMonster> sounds like the led is active low
[16:23] <GeneralStupid> Hi, does anyone have some experience with Qt Framework on the RPi?
[16:25] <voldyman> KanjiMonster: i don't have much electronics experience, what does that mean exactly ? :)
[16:25] <GeneralStupid> or should i forget to develop in C++ and using python ?
[16:25] <KanjiMonster> voldyman: that means the led is active/lights up when the signal is low (= false)
[16:25] <voldyman> GeneralStupid: i use GTK and vala on RPi and it works great :)
[16:26] <voldyman> KanjiMonster: so its the led's fault. pheww. i thought i messed up something.
[16:26] <GeneralStupid> voldyman: i have no great experiences with vala and GTK
[16:27] <voldyman> GeneralStupid: its pretty easy. you know C++/C#/Java? vala is easy
[16:28] <voldyman> GeneralStupid: https://live.gnome.org/Vala/Documentation
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[16:29] <GeneralStupid> I really would like to use something i know :)
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[16:29] <GeneralStupid> I think Java / Swing isnt a good idea because of the JVM ?
[16:35] <x29a> GeneralStupid: http://qt-project.org/wiki/RaspberryPi
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[16:38] <GeneralStupid> x29a: thanks
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[16:52] <GeneralStupid> I think i will use Qt and python
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[16:52] <x29a> GeneralStupid: wotcha buildin?
[16:55] <GeneralStupid> x29a: i will translate an graphical LavVIEW app into anything
[16:55] <x29a> ah labview
[16:55] <GeneralStupid> x29a: currently its running on an IBM Pc, thats too expensive so i try converting it to RPi
[16:58] <GeneralStupid> x29a: im reading one Sensor, thats everything . I have an ADC I2C converter
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[17:20] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, can you link me to the latest wiringpi snapshot ?
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[17:49] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, hi
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[17:49] <aaa801> Helllo
[17:49] <aaa801> i found the git repo already now ;)
[17:49] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, ok - the git is now version 2!
[17:49] <aaa801> :3
[17:49] <aaa801> im running a led strip off the pi and 3 tip120's
[17:49] * gordonDrogon nods.
[17:49] <aaa801> the softpwm seems fast enough for it
[17:50] <aaa801> almost gave me a seizure when running the example code
[17:50] <aaa801> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9E3tBllAC7I
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[17:50] <aaa801> Go take a look at the video gordonDrogon
[17:50] <gordonDrogon> just did.
[17:51] <aaa801> Btw
[17:51] <gordonDrogon> is that a strip with just 3 colours - ie. not individually adressable?
[17:51] <aaa801> ye
[17:51] <aaa801> 'pixel' leds
[17:51] <gordonDrogon> ok. looks good. softPwm will work fine on that with 3 outputs.
[17:51] <aaa801> ye, pwm works with values 0-1024 right
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[17:52] <gordonDrogon> 0-100
[17:52] <aaa801> so.. red_value /100 =/ ?
[17:52] <gordonDrogon> if you use the default setup code.
[17:52] <aaa801> or redvalue/255 *100
[17:52] <gordonDrogon> just think of it as percentages...
[17:52] <aaa801> I not very good with maths
[17:52] <gordonDrogon> 100 = fully on, 50 - half, 0 = off.
[17:53] <aaa801> ye but ima hook it into a colour selector
[17:54] <gordonDrogon> if the selector utility outputs 0-255, then you need to multiply it by 100 then divide by 255.
[17:54] <gordonDrogon> if using integers, do the multiply first.
[17:54] <gordonDrogon> otherwise you lose precision.
[17:55] <aaa801> Right
[17:55] <zleap> gordonDrogon, the new rtb looks good btw
[17:56] * gordonDrogon tries to think what's new in RTB recently ..
[17:56] <zleap> installer
[17:56] <gordonDrogon> I don't recall updating that for some months now...
[17:57] <zleap> and the manual now has gpio stuff, updated in jan
[17:57] <gordonDrogon> ah. right.
[17:57] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[17:57] <zleap> so yeah i just installed the newest version
[17:57] <gordonDrogon> I need to make a new release soon too - to make it work with wiringPi v2.
[17:57] <zleap> yeah i saw the annoucement on that
[17:57] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, could i just call softPwmCreate with range of 255 ?
[17:57] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, yes, but it'll probably flicker a little.
[17:57] <aaa801> GAH, the flicker is what im trying to eleminate
[17:58] <aaa801> the controler unit it came with was just.. terrible
[17:58] <gordonDrogon> it shouldn't flicker noticable with a range of 100.
[17:58] <zleap> i should be starting a computer group on the 10th june so will see if I can demo the ladder board, do i need to rewrite any software for a version 2 board (as in basic programs) or does wiring pi sort that out for me
[17:58] <gordonDrogon> zleap, no need to re-write anything.
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[17:58] <zleap> ok
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[17:59] <zleap> so i can plug in a ladder board to school revision 2, install rtb, then run say cylon.rtb and it should work
[17:59] <gordonDrogon> yes.
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[17:59] <zleap> cool
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[17:59] <Fin_Dev_> I'm having issues (unable to locate package) installing ircd-hybrid, anyone having the same/know what's up?
[18:00] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, how fast are you updating the PWM values to the LEDs?
[18:00] <aaa801> not too often
[18:00] <aaa801> Nothing fancy, just for ambient light
[18:00] <gordonDrogon> ok - each 'cycle' takes 10mS, so don't update it more than 100 times/sec.
[18:00] <aaa801> ok
[18:05] <aaa801> =/
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[18:05] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, Anything painfully obvious that im missing here http://pastebin.com/M7w5A0qp
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[18:09] <gordonDrogon> no - but as soon as the program exits, the LEDs will stay in whatever was their last state - ie. fully on or fully off.
[18:09] <aaa801> 255 should be fully on right ?
[18:09] <gordonDrogon> should be.
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[18:09] <aaa801> AHA
[18:09] <gordonDrogon> so add in for (;;) delay (1) ;
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[18:09] <aaa801> i think the pwm controls how much drainage is allowed
[18:09] <aaa801> the rgb lines are negative
[18:09] <gordonDrogon> then control-c will exit the program.
[18:10] <gordonDrogon> the polarity shouldn't matter.
[18:10] <aaa801> ye but then it MAY make 0 full on
[18:10] <gordonDrogon> sure.
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[18:10] <aaa801> nope
[18:10] <aaa801> no luck
[18:11] <aaa801> softpwmcreate uses the wiringpi pin right
[18:11] <aaa801> and not the gpio pin
[18:11] <gordonDrogon> it uses whatever pin system you used in wiringPiSetup ()
[18:11] <gordonDrogon> in your case - wiringPi pin numbers, so pin 1 is BCM_GPIO 18.
[18:11] <aaa801> Ye thats correct
[18:11] <aaa801> http://mitchtech.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/raspi_rgb_led.png
[18:12] <gordonDrogon> that looks ok to me.
[18:12] <aaa801> =/
[18:12] <gordonDrogon> make sure they work ok with the gpio program - gpio mode 1 out ; gpio write 1 0 ; gpio write 1 1 ; etc.
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[18:12] <aaa801> works fine with gpio
[18:13] <aaa801> Something fishy is going on here
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[18:14] <aaa801> right
[18:14] <aaa801> if i do the delay and for loop thing
[18:14] <aaa801> it seems to work
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[18:14] <aaa801> however the colour isnt the same =/
[18:14] <gordonDrogon> that's right. it can only do the PWM while your program is running.
[18:15] <aaa801> so the program exited before the pwm was activated
[18:15] <gordonDrogon> your program lights red & green - giving a yellow ish ...
[18:15] <aaa801> ye but it does something wierd
[18:15] <aaa801> hold on
[18:16] <aaa801> nvm random bug
[18:16] <aaa801> o holy flicker of hell
[18:16] <aaa801> What causes the flicker when using non 100 ranges gordonDrogon
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[18:17] <gordonDrogon> not enough time.
[18:18] <gordonDrogon> each "pulse" is 100�S wide.
[18:18] <gordonDrogon> So with a range of 100, then there are 100 pulses, 100 x 100�S is 100 pulses/sec.
[18:18] <gordonDrogon> with a range of 255, you're down to ~44 pulses/sec.
[18:19] <aaa801> aha
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[18:19] <gordonDrogon> so the lower the range, the higher the effective frequency.
[18:19] <gordonDrogon> it's not possible to have a smaller pulse width than 100�S without using lots and lots of CPU using the method I use.
[18:20] <aaa801> aha =/
[18:20] <gordonDrogon> to get better, you need some clever code that utilises the DMA engine to give you better timing control. (or a kernel driver)
[18:20] <aaa801> eek
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[18:20] <gordonDrogon> I have some skeleton code to use the DMA engine, but it's no-where near ready for release.
[18:20] * aaa801 writes that down in gordonDrogon's todo list
[18:20] <aaa801> Aha ok
[18:21] <Simon-> heh
[18:21] <Simon-> I never tried doing DMA to the GPIO register
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[18:21] <Simon-> +s
[18:22] <Simon-> gordonDrogon: https://github.com/lp0/linux/commit/3514412da496332b297332304e23431d121901eb
[18:23] <gordonDrogon> it's not at the top of my to-do list by any means.
[18:23] <aaa801> Ok
[18:23] <gordonDrogon> however one nice thing of my software PWM is that I can use it on non-Pi pins - e.g. pins on IO expanders such as the mcp23s17...
[18:23] <aaa801> code works nicely now :3
[18:24] <gordonDrogon> So I can PWM Piface pins.
[18:24] <gordonDrogon> and softTone them...
[18:25] <gordonDrogon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_51o2cUZXY <- PWM on a PiFace
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[18:27] <aaa801> http://pastebin.com/hwB0yGwb
[18:27] <aaa801> it lives :�
[18:27] <aaa801> :3
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[18:28] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, you don't need to keep calling softPwmWrite() - just do it when you need to change the values.
[18:28] <aaa801> Ok.. so how do i keep the program running so it doesnt stop working ?
[18:29] <gordonDrogon> Your sums are wrong - you ought to: softPwmWrite(RED_PIN, (RED_VALUE*100)/255 );
[18:30] <gordonDrogon> you need to run it in the background - run it and put & after the command ...
[18:30] <gordonDrogon> but make sure it doesn't exit.
[18:30] <gordonDrogon> Have you looked at the okLed.c demo program?
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[18:39] * ozzzy just ordered a mini N router
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[18:40] <ozzzy> rep... wrong window
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[18:42] <sgerbino> is it safe to power an arduino uno with the 5v/grnd pins of the pi?
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[18:51] <Younos> i'm using usb to power mine from an 2560, and that works
[18:52] <Younos> s/from an 2560/from a pi
[18:55] <gordonDrogon> generally yes.
[18:55] <gordonDrogon> just be aware that you've not got much more than 2-300mA spare from the Pi, so if you using power hungry things on the Arduino, then you may need a separate supply.
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[19:00] <gyeben> does anyone know how to set up dosbox so there are no black borders everywhere? i tried modifying settings in dosbox's configuration file but always ended up with a frozen dosbox and/or a black screen
[19:00] <gyeben> also, I'm using 1920x1080 resolution
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[19:27] <Flipo> Anyone using high current leds with the pi ?
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> Flipo, I have some highish..
[19:28] <gordonDrogon> higher than the Pi can supply currently for - 80mA per LED.
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[19:30] <djazz> my pi servers are now wall "decoration" http://i.imgur.com/FxQZd4e.jpg
[19:31] <djazz> upper: webserver/irc client, lower: web radio server (external media storage, the mp3 player)
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[19:36] * zleap is now subscribed to the exeter pi jam topic on the forum so hopefuly another way to find out about events
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[19:41] <schnuws> djazz: looks awesome xD
[19:42] <Flipo> gordonDrogon: How do you drive them, using transistors ?
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[19:45] <gordonDrogon> Flipo, yes - but I cheated and bought a module :)
[19:46] <Flipo> gordonDrogon: what module ?
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[19:47] <gordonDrogon> https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10778
[19:47] <gordonDrogon> bought it from a UK disty.
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[19:48] <djazz> schnuws: :D
[19:48] <Flipo> ah wouldn't be ideal for me, I want to drive these at full power: https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10982 it's 25ma per led but still too much for the pi
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kscX6m42qJI --- skip to about 4:05 to see it in action.
[19:50] * ozzzy has to shift his ass and etch a few boards one of these days
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[19:50] <gordonDrogon> yea, use any small signal transistor to buffer it.
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> or 3 of them.
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> or be lazy and us a uln2803 ...
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[19:53] <Flipo> yeah I have a couple of uln2003 laying around. Using the ul2003 can I still use the 3.3v output ? I try to stay at 3.3v because the switch on the encoder is on the same voltage line as the leds and I want to use the switch also
[19:53] <schnuws> djazz: you say you got an irc client on one of em, how? screen with an irssi? I'm using psybnc on one of my pi's, and it's failing all the time ._. need something more stable
[19:56] <djazz> schnuws: yup thats what i use
[19:56] <djazz> never failed for me
[19:56] <djazz> even with 5 months of uptime
[19:58] <schnuws> cool
[19:59] <schnuws> Think I'm gonna try that one xD
[19:59] <schnuws> Been thinkin of switching for 2 months now ._.
[19:59] <djazz> although I use tmux instead of screen nowadays
[19:59] <schnuws> tmux, never head of
[19:59] <djazz> its the same, but newer and more features
[19:59] <schnuws> Do we need more features? o.o
[19:59] <schnuws> what kind of features?
[20:00] <djazz> yeah, like horizontal panels
[20:00] <djazz> and taskbar by default
[20:00] <schnuws> cool =D
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[20:03] <bts__> what's the reason for using psybnc? ;) I'm using just ssh with screen+irssi on my pi, it's just working
[20:03] <schnuws> I like xchat... :F
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[20:04] <bts__> it would be even possible to use xchat with ssh -X
[20:04] <schnuws> and it's easier with graphical interfaces if I should use my ipad or phone to connect
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[20:05] <schnuws> it is ? o.o
[20:05] <schnuws> Oh!
[20:05] <bts__> maybe it is, if screen supports it
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[20:05] <djazz> run vnc server, start xchat. success?
[20:05] <schnuws> Sounds messy though
[20:05] <schnuws> vnc, nah
[20:05] <bts__> I'll check if i can leave thunar with screen :P
[20:05] <schnuws> I want something simple
[20:06] <schnuws> But Ill probably abandon xchat for irssi
[20:06] <schnuws> I like irssi whenever Im not connected to multiple servers
[20:06] <djazz> the only thing i miss from irssi is notifications
[20:06] <djazz> maybe there's a plugin?
[20:06] <schnuws> yea, I think so
[20:06] <schnuws> I think I even had notifications o.o
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[20:07] <schnuws> libnotify-bin
[20:07] <djazz> that is, either sound or, popups?
[20:08] <schnuws> but it requires x forwarding
[20:08] <schnuws> popups
[20:08] <schnuws> and sound? maybe
[20:08] <schnuws> Cant remember
[20:09] <djazz> yeah
[20:09] <schnuws> https://code.google.com/p/irssi-libnotify/wiki/MainPage
[20:09] <bts__> it works... weird to use screen + x forwarding
[20:09] <bts__> hard to detach screen session
[20:09] <bts__> I think you'd better used irssi or weechat :D
[20:10] <schnuws> weechat looks nice
[20:10] <bts__> in fact it is
[20:10] <bts__> needs some configuration, though
[20:11] <schnuws> mkay
[20:12] <aaa801> gordonDrogon,
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[20:12] <aaa801> the code i have atm fades the led strip between two colours
[20:12] <aaa801> which is pretty nice, but is also a bug
[20:12] <aaa801> :D
[20:12] <aaa801> Any idea why =/ ? http://pastebin.com/r98wMT8p
[20:13] <schnuws> Don't we hate nice bugs? =) "How the hell! Do I reproduce that?!"
[20:13] <aaa801> lol
[20:13] <aaa801> seems like the blue pin is going up and down =/
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[20:14] <aaa801> yep if i disable the blue pin write it stays on a solid colour =/
[20:15] <aaa801> mhm
[20:15] <aaa801> its doing it on the red line aswell, not as much tho
[20:16] <aaa801> maybe its trying to match the clock with too much acuracy and failing
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[20:26] <KanjiMonster> anyone got a vanilla linux kernel to boot? I'm trying 3.9.2 and it hangs during the delay loop calibration
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[20:34] <Tachyon`> hrm, well, seems installing openelec as a chroot in raspbian isn't going to fly, lol
[20:34] <Tachyon`> any nicer way to get xbmc added to raspbian?
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[20:37] <ShiftPlusOne> Pretty sure that if you google for raspbian xbmc, you'll get lots of good hits
[20:39] <Tachyon`> I get hits, the jury is still out on good
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[20:45] <aaa801> KanjiMonster, did you download it from the rpi git
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[20:45] <KanjiMonster> aaa801: no, I took the sources from kernel.org
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[20:46] <KanjiMonster> and compiled them for ARCH_BCM2835
[20:46] <aaa801> aha, your prob missing some options then
[20:46] <aaa801> hold on
[20:47] <aaa801> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/tree/rpi-3.9.y
[20:47] <ShiftPlusOne> the mainline kernel supports the pi now? =S
[20:47] <aaa801> i don't think it has the extra device trees
[20:47] <aaa801> i think it just supports the low level init
[20:47] <aaa801> nothing else afaik
[20:48] <KanjiMonster> aaa801: well, my plan would be to use vanilla as much as possible - can you pinpoint what I'm missing?
[20:49] <ShiftPlusOne> I am sure you have your reasons, but why would you want to do that?
[20:49] <KanjiMonster> ShiftPlusOne: because I'm trying to update the much neglected raspi target of OpenWrt to a recent kernel
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[20:50] <KanjiMonster> and the standard build step for the kernel is vanilla sources + common OpenWrt patches + target specific patches
[20:51] <KanjiMonster> I was also hoping to start with a vanilla kernel, then find the appropriate missing commits for the further drivers
[20:52] <ShiftPlusOne> iirc, openwrt uses buildroot, which can download the kernel source from pretty much anywhere. If not, you can download both and use git or diff to create the patches... it will be hell of a lot.
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[20:52] <KanjiMonster> I first want to get vanilla linux to boot with as less modifications as possible
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[20:53] <KanjiMonster> also what I'm still missing in that git is the appropriate kernel config
[20:53] <ShiftPlusOne> Good luck, but I fear you might be on your own there.
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[20:53] <KanjiMonster> ah, there
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[20:55] <KanjiMonster> ShiftPlusOne: meh, this git tree is useless for me, as they don't use the upstream bcm2835 target :-/
[20:55] <aaa801> KanjiMonster, just diff it against the current tree
[20:55] <aaa801> =/ ?
[20:55] <KanjiMonster> this is a completely different code base
[20:57] <KanjiMonster> all I'm getting is this btw
[20:57] <KanjiMonster> http://pastebin.com/WiJ4xffM
[20:58] <ShiftPlusOne> Are you a kernel dev?
[20:59] <KanjiMonster> sometimes
[20:59] <KanjiMonster> usually MIPS though
[20:59] <ShiftPlusOne> Then you probably know more than I do and I'll shut up =P
[21:00] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, hi. was away watching dr. who.
[21:00] <gordonDrogon> is your code fixed?
[21:00] <KanjiMonster> ShiftPlusOne: I don't mind sugestions, sometimes I even overlook totally obvious things ;)
[21:04] <ShiftPlusOne> I just don't think that what you want to do is feasible, that's all.
[21:04] <KanjiMonster> I don't expect everything to work, I just expect it to boot to command line over serial
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[21:04] <KanjiMonster> I mean what's the point of upstreaming the code if it doesn't work
[21:05] * ShiftPlusOne shrugs
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[21:13] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, no idea =/
[21:14] <aaa801> i think it was because the value being fed to the pwm was something like 19.22222225555
[21:14] <aaa801> in progress of putting the lights on my cieling atm
[21:14] <aaa801> anyone know a low power wifi adapter for the pi
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[21:23] <reaper_> anyone running a rpi on colocation? wondering what service i should put on mine
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[21:31] <SpeedEvil> quassel
[21:31] <SpeedEvil> irc
[21:32] <aaa801> almost blew up my pi just then
[21:32] <aaa801> q_q
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[21:36] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, run into that fade issue again =/
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[21:37] <aaa801> and the pi has gone and 'crashed'
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, if I have time later I'll hook up some RGB LEDs and write some fade code for it.
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> bit busy right now.
[21:37] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, the thing is, its fading when im not making it fade!
[21:37] <zleap> what happens if you run minecraft at the console i get a blank screen
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, pastbin your current code...
[21:37] <gordonDrogon> I'll have a quick look now...
[21:37] <aaa801> hold on, the pi crashed shortly after running
[21:37] <aaa801> got to reboot
[21:38] <zleap> aaa801, can you ssh in from another pc and kill what has crashed
[21:38] <aaa801> ssh wasnt responding
[21:38] <aaa801> but it was still runing the program for the lights =/
[21:38] <zleap> try alt-sysrq RSEIUB
[21:38] <aaa801> O_o ?
[21:39] <zleap> kernel hacking sequence to reboot
[21:39] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, http://pastebin.com/0h2654k0
[21:39] <aaa801> wouldnt help much if ssh stoped responding
[21:39] <zleap> it may do
[21:39] <zleap> on the pi
[21:40] <zleap> http://zleap.net/restart-linux-with-sysrq/
[21:41] <zleap> i am going to try that later as minecraft from the console hangs, i am sure it should detect x if it needs it and drop out if x isn't running
[21:41] <aaa801> i suspect the issue is with feeding floats into softPwmWrite
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[21:47] <aaa801> Mhm nope doesnt work with non floats either
[21:47] <aaa801> just fades wierdly
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[21:55] <aaa801> any idea gordonDrogon
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[21:56] <aaa801> i think it is something in the softpwm module =/
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[22:04] <aaa801> also gordonDrogon you define PULSE_TIME in softPwm.c but don't use it
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[22:05] <ComraDerpyPi> whoa. thats quite the number of users for a channel
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[22:05] <Phosie> Most are idle.
[22:05] <aaa801> Yep
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[22:06] <Phosie> A lot in here I don't think I've seen say a single word.
[22:06] <aaa801> i think the ubuntu channel has the most people
[22:06] <aaa801> 1615 atm
[22:06] <ripzay> a single word
[22:06] <ripzay> there, i said it
[22:06] <Phosie> :P
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[22:06] <Phosie> 1128 for Freenode, not far behind.
[22:06] <ComraDerpyPi> ok, i had a question. does raspbian usually bomb the sd with mmc errors after apt-get upgrade?
[22:07] <ComraDerpyPi> i actually had to switch to arch
[22:07] <Bushmills> overclocked?
[22:07] <ComraDerpyPi> nope
[22:08] <Bushmills> cheap micro-SD in adapter?
[22:08] <ComraDerpyPi> even bought the official pre programmed sd. 15 minutes later i was at my neighbours place using roadkil's eraser on xp and putting arch
[22:08] <ComraDerpyPi> im good now, just way less packages (i think)
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[22:09] <ComraDerpyPi> that old asus eeepc 701 i gave him to play solitare came to the rescue
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[22:10] <ComraDerpyPi> brb, going to test my first game :)
[22:10] <Phosie> Pi idles at 42.2C, not bad =)
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[22:16] <zleap> how do u measure temp on the pi
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[22:17] <ladoga> cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp
[22:17] <Phosie> /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
[22:17] <aaa801> 41.2C
[22:17] <aaa801> while doing softpwm
[22:18] <ripzay> where is the temperature sensor?
[22:18] <ripzay> internal to the bcm chip ?
[22:18] <aaa801> under the cpu
[22:18] <aaa801> ram*
[22:18] <aaa801> ye
[22:18] <ripzay> under it
[22:18] <ripzay> or in it
[22:18] <ripzay> :P
[22:18] <aaa801> i think under
[22:19] <zleap> ok
[22:19] <ripzay> bear in mind that on board temperature sensors are rarely accurate
[22:19] <ripzay> and shouldnt really be used as a measure of temperature
[22:19] <Phosie> I'll leave my stepper motor program running for a few minutes and see how much it goes up by.
[22:19] <ripzay> but as a measure of change in temperature
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[22:20] <ripzay> i.e. if yours is stableand says it idles at 41.2 deg c, good but it's more to make sure it doesnt go mental when it's under load
[22:20] <ripzay> but it probably isnt ACTUALLY 41.2 deg c
[22:21] <Phosie> I
[22:21] <Phosie> I really need to edit this script so I can have two buttons, one for clockwise another for counter clockwise
[22:21] <ladoga> it won't heat up much under load..atleast not when at normal clocks
[22:21] <zleap> arm are pretty efficient anyway i think
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[22:22] <ladoga> i measured just ca. 5-10°C difference between idle and high cpu usage
[22:22] <Phosie> No idea how I'm going to do it though
[22:25] <ladoga> i use this script to print temps in nicer format http://paste.debian.net/5045/
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[22:25] <ladoga> and also been following them using gnuplot for a while http://raspi.dy.fi/ladoga/cpustat.png
[22:26] <ladoga> though i set it to purge logs older than ca. 2 days so it shows only recent history
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[22:27] <ladoga> ambient temp affects it more than load actually
[22:29] <ladoga> so drop at 6 o'clock is just because i opened the window as it was so damn hot
[22:30] <ladoga> in the room that is...not raspi
[22:30] <ripzay> do you have your pi in a case or open to the air ladoga
[22:30] <ripzay> out of interest
[22:30] <ladoga> open air
[22:31] <ripzay> one of mine is just bluetacked to the back of my TV, the other is in a cardboard box :P
[22:31] <ladoga> it sits on top of my router
[22:31] <ladoga> or basically stands vertically as a stiff ethernet cable keeps it in the air
[22:32] <ladoga> so atleast it's well ventilated:)
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[22:32] <aaa801> GAH I HATE SOFTPWM
[22:32] <aaa801> D:
[22:33] <beet0l> anyone know where i can get some laser cut acrylic parts?
[22:33] <ladoga> case migth be good to keep it clean from dust though
[22:33] <ladoga> of
[22:34] <Phosie> aaa801: What's up?
[22:34] <ladoga> and maybe there's some risk to shorting it on some metal
[22:34] <aaa801> Software pwm and fading lights that shouldnt be fading Phosie
[22:34] <Phosie> Not good
[22:34] <aaa801> Indeed, i think the softpwm implementation in wiringPi isnt up to my use case
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[22:43] <nerdboy> damn, that was harder than it should've been...
[22:45] <aaa801> is it possible to get util/atomic.h on the pi
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[22:56] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, you around ?
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[23:03] <ozzzy> anyone know which side of F3 is the input from the micro usb connector?
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[23:08] <PhonicUK> has anyone tried MAME on the Pi?
[23:08] <PhonicUK> specifically to play any of the Metal Slug games
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[23:09] <ComraDerpyPi> i just tried quake3, 4fps. ive heard of getting 60fps. i also had lodbias 2 and picmip 14 :)
[23:10] <ComraDerpyPi> if it does darkplaces\quake1 better, ill be happy
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[23:12] <ComraDerpyPi> actually anything i can exert myself on when i get some would be nice....
[23:12] <hglm> Comra: Are you running quake in the console or in X? Only the console version would use the GPU.
[23:13] <ComraDerpyPi> i was running quake 3 in X. i didnt know quake3 went console
[23:13] <ComraDerpyPi> theres quakeforge, do you mean quakeforge?
[23:13] <hglm> The X version of quake3 is completely unaccelerated on the Pi, software rendering.
[23:13] <ComraDerpyPi> or ioquake3-rpb, as it is in arch
[23:14] <ComraDerpyPi> oh really.
[23:14] <ComraDerpyPi> derp
[23:14] <hglm> Not sure, haven't tried quake3 on the Pi, but there should be an accelerated console version available.
[23:18] <aaa801> ComraDerpyPi, did you have X closed
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[23:18] <aaa801> blarg the python gpio code does the exact same as softpwm does with the unintended fade =/
[23:19] <ComraDerpyPi> lol i was running it in X like i used to do with Xfree 3.3.6 :)
[23:19] <aaa801> lol
[23:19] <ComraDerpyPi> :/
[23:22] <ComraDerpyPi> so confused how xf86-vide-fb works now after using a powervr chip on a weird atom cpu
[23:22] <ComraDerpyPi> *video
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[23:31] <PhonicUK> I wish we had accelerated X on the pi :(
[23:32] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, might be of intrest to you, pwm on the pi with dma https://github.com/metachris/RPIO/blob/master/source/c_pwm/pwm.c
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[23:34] <hglm> Phonic: It would still be slow with most apps like browsers due to CPU limitations. The gain wouldn't be that great.
[23:34] <Jck_true> PhonicUK: Wayland seems to be where it's going
[23:34] <gordonDrogon> aaa801, sorry - been away for a while - that program you pastebin'd doesn't do any fading at all - it just maintains constant values.
[23:35] <aaa801> Ye, but the pysical effect isnt constant
[23:35] <aaa801> it fades
[23:35] <aaa801> =/
[23:35] <gordonDrogon> what else is your Pi doing?
[23:35] <aaa801> nothing
[23:35] <gordonDrogon> it really should not fade.
[23:35] <aaa801> im messing with https://github.com/metachris/RPIO/blob/master/source/c_pwm/pwm.c atm
[23:35] <aaa801> to see if the dma helps =/
[23:35] <gordonDrogon> your code does not have any 'fade' in it.
[23:36] <aaa801> Ye, which means the pi must be strugling with the pin flicking or something
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[23:36] <gordonDrogon> I tested it with 12 LEDs.
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[23:37] <aaa801> il record it
[23:37] <aaa801> hold on
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[23:37] <gordonDrogon> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7cHIA3Nchp4
[23:38] <aaa801> its only on certian values
[23:38] <aaa801> like it wont fade on most values, but some will
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[23:39] <aaa801> uploading
[23:39] <gordonDrogon> sure your driver transistors aren't overheating?
[23:39] <aaa801> mhm
[23:39] * aaa801 goes to check
[23:41] <aaa801> nope
[23:41] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmlMWqtZpbg
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[23:42] <aaa801> Odd hea =/
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[23:44] <gordonDrogon> yes, a little odd. Do check the power supply, and driver transistors though.
[23:44] <gordonDrogon> I'll knock up a little demo tomorrow morning. bed time now.
[23:44] <aaa801> i checked the transistors, there no warmer then the pi =/
[23:44] <aaa801> power supply may be a issue, but i don't see how it could cause that kind of fading =/
[23:44] <aaa801> ive got a higher ampage one on route
[23:47] <aaa801> gordonDrogon, the odder thing is that if i turn all of the levels to full, its solid white with no wierd fade
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[23:56] <ComraDerpyPi> i am doing a ./configure && make of quakeforge (way better game than quake3) and it has SDL (no need for X11 at all to play a game)
[23:57] <ComraDerpyPi> i really dont know how to make AUR's but if this works i might suggest somebody does i
[23:57] <ComraDerpyPi> *it?
[23:57] <ComraDerpyPi> whoever was helping me with quake3, i dont see this running SDL
[23:58] <ComraDerpyPi> err \console, at all. :P
[23:58] <ozzzy> http://www.togastro.com/ozzzy/images/pihack2.png
[23:58] <ozzzy> I HATE those little micro usb things
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[23:59] <aaa801> ComraDerpyPi, Hope you enjoy porting that quakeforge to run on egl

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