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IRC Log for 2013-05-19

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[0:00] <aaa801> otherwise your going to get about 0.02 fps
[0:00] <ComraDerpyPi> it runs on svgalib as well, like half life gold (an engine id give my left arm for on linux)
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[0:01] <ComraDerpyPi> cause that would bring counter strike 1.5 (not completely legit) and we could throw a party :3
[0:02] <Jck_true> i'm more curious about the source code for star was jedi knight being released :P
[0:03] <ComraDerpyPi> was that an earlier one? i think i remember that running on toasters as well
[0:05] <ComraDerpyPi> still compiling. if i get this done ill be a HPB on a Netherlands quake server. how the linux gods intended. :)
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[0:07] <ComraDerpyPi> save the binary make my own distro like how they made a commodore distro for their low powered clones
[0:07] <ComraDerpyPi> AND enourage people to stop off at active electronics to buy more element 14 pi's with MY free sd card :)
[0:08] <ozzzy> for games?
[0:10] <ComraDerpyPi> yup. i was thinking of building a links -g, irc, other random CLI stuff with quakeforge on SliTaz
[0:11] <ComraDerpyPi> when i was 13 this Pi did everything my computer did
[0:11] <ozzzy> I didn't understand more that a couple of words of that
[0:11] <ComraDerpyPi> except that was redhat 5.2 on sparc's and IA-32
[0:12] <ComraDerpyPi> when i was 13, i played quakeforge on CLI, ran redhat 5.2. did everything this machine does. but i want to get more people on the bandwagon. build a distro out of slitaz
[0:13] <ComraDerpyPi> svgalib is so powerful that this device is awesome
[0:15] <ComraDerpyPi> *why. sorry..... urk.... i tend to ramble. time for me to quit.
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[0:20] <hglm> I noticed the Pi boots/runs faster if you disable all the system loggin by rsyslog...it is set up in Raspbian for a full blown server. Writing to the sdcard all the time isn't good for performance. Is this a well known optimization?
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[0:28] <ShadowJK> Some cards are really slow at that
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[0:29] <hglm> Yeah I noticed, that's why disabling logging helps a lot.
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[0:30] <hglm> On a 512MB pi you can also move disk cache directories used by applications to a ramdisk. Helps a lot with Midori.
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[0:38] <aaa801> Mhm even in dma mode softpwm makes the lights fade :s
[0:38] <aaa801> i need a scope for this funkyness q_q
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[0:49] <aaa801> Anyone know of a chip that does hardpwm over i2 c?
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[0:52] <super3> has anyone seen this before? http://i.imgur.com/m8UCOfL.jpg
[0:52] <super3> im pretty sure its one of my connections, but i don't have access to a multimeter till tomorrow
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[1:01] <aaa801> super3,
[1:01] <aaa801> how are you writing data to it
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[1:05] <pentarex> Hello guys. Can you help me choose - I will be new in this stuff (sorry I know the question is not topic related but I think you can help me) - Semiconductors - I would like to start developing but I don´t know where and how I can start - what I have to get to start - Arm Cortex m3 developing board or raspberry pi - in my case also should I know something of electrical schemas and so and so
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[1:07] <Tachyon`> get a gertboard if you're planning to use a pi
[1:07] <Tachyon`> you reduce the risk of killing the 5v intolerant gpio pins
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[1:09] <pentarex> Tachyon`: gertboard? ok I will google it to see what is it and how much is it cost also - do I require some special programming skills to write for that - I know java (not so hardcore) and little bit c++
[1:09] <[deXter]> pentarex, I think you mean "embedded systems", not semiconductors.
[1:09] <Tachyon`> there's c libraries
[1:09] <Tachyon`> for the gpio
[1:10] <Tachyon`> you can even access it via /proc/
[1:10] <Tachyon`> with shell script
[1:10] <mgottschlag> pentarex: also, do you want a microcontroller, or a full-blown linux system like the pi?
[1:10] <Tachyon`> it couldn't be easier to use really
[1:10] <pentarex> [deXter]: http://www.electronicsandyou.com/electronics-basics/semiconductors.jpg
[1:11] <mgottschlag> if you want to get into electronics, a microcontroller system (arduino, stm discovery, freescale freedom) might be more fitting
[1:11] <mgottschlag> just because it is cheaper than pi + gertboard
[1:11] <pentarex> mgottschlag: I don´t know I would like to learn - I don´t know where to start or what to buy - I am very familiar with linux and I always says RTFM to others but now I don´t know where to start - if you can give me some tutorial or step by step what to read and what to buy it will be great
[1:11] <\\Mr_C\\> is there a little screen that connects directly to the dsi port?
[1:11] <Tachyon`> not yet
[1:11] <[deXter]> pentarex, that is dumb. That's just an example of a substance. It's like pointing at a bottle of milk saying and saying it's liquid, and you'd like to know more about liquids...
[1:12] <Tachyon`> as the binary blob for DSI is STILL missing
[1:12] <nerdboy> now i just need a nice lightweight panel and an mpd client
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[1:12] <pentarex> [deXter]: you are right :)
[1:12] <mgottschlag> pentarex: you need is you need something you want to build
[1:12] <Tachyon`> bloody broadcom, come the revolution they'll be first against the wall, money grubbing <expletive deleted>
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[1:12] <mgottschlag> then you can start from there
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[1:13] <pentarex> mgottschlag: ok if I want to create simple mp3 player - what I would need
[1:13] <[deXter]> Just get raspberry pi, load raspbian and you have an MP3 player.
[1:13] <Tachyon`> you can bit bang a mobile phone display with the gpio
[1:13] <Tachyon`> someone made a tiny mame cabinet doing that
[1:13] <Tachyon`> there's video of it playing bubble bobble somewhere
[1:14] <[deXter]> If you want to *learn* how to make it from scratch however, you need to get lower than an RPi. An RPi is like cheating, it's too high level with very easy/simple solutions.
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[1:15] <mgottschlag> one level lower: get an stm32discovery, build a power supply from battery, build a display module, add some flash
[1:15] <pentarex> [deXter]: the mp3 player was just an example
[1:15] <[deXter]> pentarex, You really need to define at least *some* tangible goals.. there are various levels of embedded systems
[1:15] <aaa801> Anyone know of a hardware pwm expander ?
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[1:16] <[deXter]> pentarex, is this just personal curiosity, or you have a project in mind, or are you preparing for University ?
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[1:16] <pentarex> [deXter]: I am a student and I work in a company that makes semiconductors and rfid chips - I dont want to bother them - I am not working in their projects right now and I would like to fit in to break through - I want to start from somewhere I ask them they said I can start with arm cortex m3 developer board
[1:17] <pentarex> asked them*
[1:18] <mgottschlag> cortex m3 = microcontroller
[1:18] <[deXter]> Yep ^
[1:18] <mgottschlag> (and, it doesn't really matter whether you choose M0, M3 or M4, they are all the same except for some few instructions)
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[1:19] <mgottschlag> http://www.haoyuelectronics.com/ebay/FRDM-KL25Z/3.jpg <- the cortex m0 board which I use right now, trying to build a battery monitoring system
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[1:20] <[deXter]> pentarex, A microcontroller is a much more low-level device compared to the RPi.. it doesn't run a full-fledged OS, and you'd be doing most of you development in C
[1:20] <mgottschlag> (probably not the right platform for a beginner though, I think I'd recommend an atmega then)
[1:20] <mgottschlag> but I think a microcontroller board is better for you, after all the pi is just like your average computer, nothing new
[1:21] <mgottschlag> well, you have some GPIOs of course :)
[1:21] <[deXter]> Yep, an ATmega board will be nice pentarex , like an Arduino
[1:22] <mgottschlag> but really, the first thing is to pick out something you want to build, and then start from there imho
[1:22] <pentarex> some example - with what you start?
[1:23] <mgottschlag> I have no idea what my first atmega project was :D
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[1:24] <[deXter]> Eh, for me, necessity is the mother of invention, and nothing motivates me like the *need*, so I pick that, but I chop up the problem into little pieces and start at the simplest piece. For eg, home automation is one of my pet projects, I'd start with something simple, like responding to sensor input.
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[1:24] <[deXter]> What would you do if a door is open? How will you record that action digitally and respond to it ?
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[1:25] <mgottschlag> other simple projects for starters would be an alarm clock, a digital thermometer, ...
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[1:26] <mgottschlag> you could also just grab 100 LEDs and build some kind of LED display with a microcontroller
[1:27] <[deXter]> And yeah when dealing with micros, it does help to have basic electronic knowledge/skills
[1:28] <[deXter]> and also bit of digital electronics
[1:28] <[deXter]> and some basic binary math would be handy too
[1:28] <[deXter]> *too
[1:29] <Tachyon`> you certainly need to know how to use gates effectively
[1:29] <Tachyon`> well, technically you can get away with just nand but it'd get a bit samey
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[1:45] <pentarex> mgottschlag: and what kind of equipment do I need for this stuff
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[1:45] <pentarex> if I have limit to 50 euro
[1:45] <pentarex> thats my limit I dont want to invest too much in it because I dont know if I am good for it :)
[1:45] <mgottschlag> well, which one? ^^
[1:46] <pentarex> clock - digital clock
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[1:47] <mgottschlag> well, the center of it will be a cheap microcontroller board
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[1:48] <mgottschlag> an arduino is 12€
[1:48] <mgottschlag> then you need to decide, how is its output supposed to look?
[1:48] <pentarex> mgottschlag: if I dont want to invest everytime I want to create something... a ok 12 euro is ok
[1:49] <pentarex> mgottschlag: something on screen - thats why I was guessing raspberry pi maybe.... the harduer on the board and to write the software on my own
[1:49] <mgottschlag> do you have a soldering iron?
[1:49] <pentarex> hardware*
[1:49] <pentarex> I will buy one
[1:50] <mgottschlag> http://image.made-in-china.com/2f0j00eMOaLjsSwHbZ/LED-7-Segment-Display.jpg <- I would probably use a microcontroller board and some of these
[1:51] <mgottschlag> of course then you also need some prototyping board (2€ per 160x100mm I think), some resistors, some solder, some pin headers to connect it to your arduino, and some simple push buttons
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[1:56] <mgottschlag> http://www.mikrocontroller.net/attachment/87902/FPT-Counter.png <- something like this
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[1:57] <mgottschlag> (except that the microcontroller on the left would be missing and replaced by a microcontroller board)
[1:58] <mgottschlag> that's as easy as it gets with microcontrollers, the only thing which would be more easy would be displaying the time in binary :)
[1:59] <mgottschlag> if that's too complicated, you should probably use a pi, but a pi isn't really what you initially wanted (microcontrollers)
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[2:07] <optimator> i'm having trouble using the raspberry as a nfs client mounting a mac nfs server
[2:07] <optimator> the error is permission denied
[2:08] <optimator> i think it's on the mac side... anyone have that working?
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[2:08] <ozzzy> yeah... I couldn't get nfs going... went back to samba shares
[2:09] <optimator> ugg.. for some unknown hard core unix reason, I just wanted nfs
[2:09] <optimator> samba...ok
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[2:17] <optimator> well that was easy
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[2:19] <coincoin4ever> on archlinux rpi is it safe to work directly in root ?
[2:19] <coincoin4ever> or it s better to create a user
[2:20] * JakeSays drools over the gertbaord
[2:20] <stapper> It's alwas safer to create a user
[2:20] <stapper> *always
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[2:22] <nerdboy> damn, i should not have git pulled on poky before i tried my tint2 recipe...
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[2:26] <chupacabra> optimator, My fave beer
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[2:27] * nerdboy just got back from arcata alst night
[2:28] <nerdboy> good mad river beers on tap at big pete's
[2:29] <nerdboy> and thursday was $10 pitcher day :)
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[2:35] <Firehopper> hrmm.. what was that command to update the firmware of a rpi?
[2:35] <Firehopper> raspi-update? or something?
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[2:37] <hydroxygen> apt-get update or upgrade
[2:38] <Firehopper> there was another command, some kind of script that you had to download or something.
[2:38] <hydroxygen> if not as root need to add sudo
[2:38] <geordie> rpi-update
[2:39] <geordie> hydroxygen: apt-get update/upgrade update the raspbian packages installed on a system
[2:39] <hydroxygen> as : sudo apt-get update
[2:39] <geordie> he wants to upgrade the firmware
[2:39] <geordie> http://github.com/Hexxeh/rpi-update
[2:39] <hydroxygen> k
[2:40] <Firehopper> thats what it was :)
[2:40] <Firehopper> thanks..
[2:40] <Firehopper> :)
[2:40] <Firehopper> I havent touched my rpi in a while.. so I forgot the commands :)
[2:40] <geordie> yeah it's easy to do
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[2:41] <Firehopper> giggle, I love messing with the pi, I should finish the setup, gotta get some heatsinks for the lcd controller and the rpi
[2:41] <dreamon_> one second. What kind of firmware? thought this is a PC.. firmware of what?
[2:41] <aca20031> is there any simple solution for letting aptitude install XBMC on raspbian? Almost everything about this (link to follow) is rediculous...http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianXBMC
[2:42] <aca20031> whats preventing a good old apt-get install xbmc
[2:42] <Firehopper> I call my rpi setup a pi plate :) everything is mounted on a bit of plywood :)
[2:42] <Firehopper> lcd, lcd controller, backlight inverter and rpi :)
[2:42] <geordie> dreamon_: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Firmware
[2:43] <Firehopper> dreamon_, all pc's have firmware :)
[2:43] <Firehopper> its called bios :)
[2:43] <dreamon_> geordie, I know what a firmware is. but what is this firmware for? bios?
[2:43] <Firehopper> on rpi its a bit different
[2:45] <SpeedEvil> the pi is a GPU. it happens to have a CPU on the side
[2:45] <geordie> i don't know; i haven't looked at it closely
[2:45] <dreamon_> and the new "Bios" how I find out which version I have?
[2:45] <SpeedEvil> the GPU is what boots the system
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[2:48] <devslash> i had a usb hard drive connected to my pi 24/7 with an entry in /etc/fstab to auto mount it. i don't want to use this usb hard drive anymore so i commented out the line in stab and when i rebooted it hangs
[2:48] <devslash> is there anything else that i need to do ?
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[2:51] <devslash> anyone here ?
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[2:53] <JakeSays> how does the GPU boot the system?
[2:53] <ambro718> are there any guides for programming the RPi directly without Linux?
[2:53] <ambro718> I mean without kernel
[2:53] <JakeSays> ambro718: you need some sort of os to make it useful
[2:53] <aaa801> ambro718, try the whole Bare Metal section of the forum
[2:53] <aaa801> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=72
[2:53] <ambro718> of course I don't, I just need to know enough to make the bits I need
[2:54] <ambro718> JakeSays: you can program things like AVR and uC-level ARMs without OSs, using little more than a libC
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[2:54] <JakeSays> ambro718: and those bits would comprise an operating system
[2:54] * aaa801 stares at his kernel build
[2:55] <JakeSays> maybe not an operating system in the normal sense, but still an o/s :p
[2:55] <aaa801> Why is virtualbox taking soo long =/
[2:55] <ambro718> aaa801: thanks, will take a look there
[2:55] <JakeSays> oh wow rtems has been ported
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[2:56] <aaa801> well
[2:56] <aaa801> the bare bones code atleast
[2:56] * nerdboy notes Ada has excellent support for realtime stuff like that
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[2:56] <aaa801> trying to get a kernel with preempt_rt
[2:56] <aaa801> on my pi atm
[2:57] <JakeSays> aaa801: lol yeah it appears rtems is little more than breathing on the pi.
[2:57] <aaa801> must... make... code run fast enouth to eliminate fading lights
[2:57] <aaa801> !
[2:57] <aaa801> rtos would be perfect for this, shame i don't know that stuff lol
[2:58] <JakeSays> i need to connect my pi to my basic stamp board
[2:58] <Firehopper> genn
[2:58] <Firehopper> hrmm
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[2:58] <Firehopper> this isnt good
[2:58] <aaa801> Firehopper, ?
[2:58] <Firehopper> rpi-update seems to have killed my rpi
[2:58] <Firehopper> guess I need to reimage the sd card
[2:58] <aaa801> Ye its not been downloading one of the files recently
[2:58] <aaa801> wait
[2:59] <aaa801> its a easy fix man
[2:59] <aaa801> :P
[2:59] <aaa801> https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot
[2:59] <Firehopper> the activity light blinks 3 times and no display
[2:59] <Firehopper> can I fix it with a windows pc?
[2:59] <aaa801> yep
[2:59] <aaa801> download those files and stick them on the sd partition that appears on a windows pc
[3:00] <Firehopper> okay
[3:02] <aaa801> ok, time to try my preempt_rt kernel
[3:03] <JakeSays> so i'm trying to write an image to my sd card - i'm getting a 'not enough space on disk' error. doesnt win32diskimager overwrite the contents of the sd?
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[3:04] <JakeSays> woah. windows thinks its only a 56mb sd card
[3:04] <taza> This is normal.
[3:04] <stapper> You're only reading the first partition
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[3:04] <taza> You're probably trying to write to the partition and not the disk
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[3:05] <stapper> Windows can't see the Ext4 or whatever type the second part is
[3:05] <taza> Ext3
[3:05] <JakeSays> ah. didnt realize it had partitions.
[3:05] <JakeSays> so how do i fix it?
[3:05] <aaa801> Firehopper, it alive?
[3:05] <aaa801> JakeSays, define fix?
[3:05] <taza> I know how to fix it in Linux but not Windows. ;p
[3:05] <m0nk3yjoe> latest updates to my PI killed my system
[3:05] <m0nk3yjoe> Whatever I type I get not found
[3:05] <aaa801> m0nk3yjoe, grab these
[3:05] <aaa801> https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot
[3:06] <m0nk3yjoe> how do to this?
[3:06] <aaa801> Download the files
[3:06] <aaa801> place on sd
[3:06] <JakeSays> aaa801: well, make it so i can write the linux image to the sd card
[3:06] <aaa801> JakeSays, o if you use win32diskimager itl work fine
[3:06] <aaa801> it writes to the device not the partition
[3:06] <m0nk3yjoe> all commands are no such command or file
[3:06] <JakeSays> aaa801: its not working fine
[3:07] <JakeSays> aaa801: it worked fine when i originally imaged it, but i'm trying to re-image
[3:07] <aaa801> =/
[3:07] <m0nk3yjoe> Update killed my PI! =(
[3:07] <aaa801> try hp low level sd format tool
[3:07] <aaa801> Ive already told you what to do m0nk3yjoe
[3:07] <aaa801> =/
[3:07] <taza> Heh, dd makes this easier. Also more dangerous.
[3:07] <aaa801> dclfdd > dd
[3:08] <m0nk3yjoe> aaa801, so I have to completely rebuild?
[3:08] <JakeSays> taza: the only linux i have at the moment is the pi.
[3:08] <aaa801> https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/tree/master/boot
[3:08] <aaa801> grab those files!
[3:08] <aaa801> put them on the boot partition
[3:08] <m0nk3yjoe> wget them?
[3:08] <aaa801> you need to click the file
[3:08] <aaa801> then RAW
[3:08] <pksato> m0nk3yjoe: rebooted? after upgrade?
[3:08] <Firehopper> aaa801, about to try it
[3:08] <aaa801> it May work, depending on what the heck rpi-update screwed up
[3:08] <m0nk3yjoe> pksato, yes rebooted after upgrade and then POOF broken!
[3:09] <pksato> rewrite a fresh image to sd.
[3:09] <pksato> and. start again.
[3:09] <m0nk3yjoe> that SUX
[3:09] <m0nk3yjoe> What happened?
[3:10] <aaa801> Well its not our fault your ignoring what we are telling you to do
[3:10] <Firehopper> nope aaa801
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[3:10] <aaa801> Firehopper, really ?
[3:10] <Firehopper> its not working
[3:10] <aaa801> How did you grab those files ?
[3:10] <Firehopper> same thing, blink blink blink
[3:10] <m0nk3yjoe> aaa801, so I have to start over...
[3:10] <Firehopper> click on the file name then raw and save
[3:10] <aaa801> mhm hold on
[3:10] <aaa801> il zip up the boot files of my pi
[3:10] <aaa801> should get you up and running until rpi-update is fixed
[3:12] <Firehopper> okay
[3:12] <aaa801> uploading
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[3:13] <aaa801> Firehopper, m0nk3yjoe try these files http://uppit.com/b7ob2gsv0k58/savethepi.zip
[3:13] <m0nk3yjoe> aaa801, I can't get any commands to work
[3:14] <aaa801> put the sd card in the bloody computer and copy over those boot files
[3:14] <m0nk3yjoe> aaa801, I'm in another part of the state right now and running my Pi as a server
[3:14] <aaa801> Aha
[3:14] <m0nk3yjoe> So I will but not tonight
[3:14] <aaa801> Can you scp in ?
[3:15] <m0nk3yjoe> Didn't try that yet
[3:15] <aaa801> are you at a shell or at kernel screen ?
[3:15] <m0nk3yjoe> shell
[3:15] <aaa801> So its managed to boot up somehow
[3:15] <aaa801> id try scp in
[3:15] <m0nk3yjoe> yeah and it was up for 2 mins and then took a sh1t
[3:15] <aaa801> then fix up the boot partition if you can =/
[3:15] * Firehopper yawns and waits for the download
[3:15] <aaa801> and learn the lovely leson of not upgrading over ssh
[3:16] <aaa801> =/
[3:16] <ozzzy> the lan9512 chip gets a bit warm
[3:16] <Firehopper> http://www.flickr.com/photos/firehopper/8571797873/in/photostream < my rpi :)
[3:16] <aaa801> it lives again Firehopper ?
[3:16] <JakeSays> aaa801: that hp utility cant even see the sd card
[3:17] <aaa801> did you run it as admin JakeSays
[3:17] <m0nk3yjoe> aaa801, usually Debian is much more stable than this =P
[3:17] <aaa801> hehe
[3:17] <aaa801> im guessing rpi-upgrade downloaded some buged version of the userland
[3:17] <JakeSays> aaa801: yeah
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[3:17] <aaa801> JakeSays, is it a sd adapter
[3:17] <aaa801> or a built in thing
[3:18] <JakeSays> aaa801: built in
[3:18] <aaa801> mhm
[3:18] <Firehopper> dunno yet.. waiting for the download to finish
[3:18] <Firehopper> its about 1/2 way
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[3:18] <aaa801> how slow is your internet q_q
[3:18] <Firehopper> server must be overloaded
[3:18] <Firehopper> I'm not even getting to my speed
[3:18] <aaa801> mhm
[3:19] <aaa801> my pi does not like this new kernel
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[3:19] <Firehopper> downloading at 75kbyte/sec
[3:19] <Firehopper> my max is 350kbyte/sec
[3:21] <JakeSays> well this just really sucks
[3:22] <aaa801> jake
[3:22] <aaa801> you have teamviewer JakeSays
[3:22] <JakeSays> aaa801: i dont
[3:22] <aaa801> =/
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[3:22] <Firehopper> that fixed it aaa801
[3:22] <Firehopper> its working again :)
[3:22] <aaa801> :3
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[3:24] <Firehopper> all kinds of errors though
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[3:24] <Firehopper> I'm just gonna redo the image..
[3:24] <Firehopper> maybe the sd card became corrupted too
[3:25] <aaa801> prob just module errors
[3:25] <aaa801> because older kernel
[3:25] <Firehopper> it was mentioning some file errors and stuff..
[3:26] <aaa801> =/
[3:26] <Firehopper> so I'll just start over.. :)
[3:26] <Firehopper> wasnt anything important on the card :)
[3:26] <Firehopper> I'm just messin around
[3:28] <stapper> If I'm unable to use dd as back-up tool, what other tools can I use? I think I cant use dd because it was a cheap SD read/writer
[3:29] <aaa801> wut
[3:29] <aaa801> dd should work on anything
[3:29] <stapper> I can howerver write SD cards
[3:29] <aaa801> what error do you get with dd stapper
[3:29] <stapper> Input/output error
[3:29] <aaa801> =/
[3:30] <stapper> when I write to a card I get no errors but backing up a card I always get this error after a while
[3:31] <stapper> Stops at "random" time never been further than 40MB's
[3:31] <stapper> I also tried the bs option but read somewhere it stands for b*llsh*t these days
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[3:33] <ozzzy> omxplayer is pretty good
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[3:34] <plugwash> on debian like systems there is the "gddrescue" package which provides a tool called "ddrescue" which is similar to dd but has the ability to retry, skip failed blocks etc
[3:36] <aaa801> i find dcfldd amazing, its basicaly a forensics version of dd plugwash
[3:36] <aaa801> bit outdated these days
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[3:40] <stapper> Thanks I'll check them out, is it possible that it is interupted because my system tries to automount the card? or isn't it necessary to umount for a dd back-up?
[3:40] <aaa801> i think my usb drive just heri keri'd
[3:40] <aaa801> http://i.imgur.com/5JgwoA7.png
[3:40] <aaa801> q_q
[3:41] <Firehopper> it does look that way :)
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[3:44] <aaa801> can the pi boot from usb3 sticks
[3:44] <aaa801> after straping from sd?
[3:45] <aaa801> what the heck
[3:45] <aaa801> ubuntu can't read this stick =/
[3:45] <aaa801> unknown partition table
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[3:49] <stapper> usb3 is backward compatible wit older usb versions so I think it shoukd work
[3:49] <chithead> not all sticks are partitioned
[3:49] <stapper> I'v read somewhere it is possible to boot from USB but don't ask me where
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[3:50] <chithead> the kernel and firmware will be loaded from sd card, everything else is configurable
[3:51] <stapper> So you need to change the cmdline.txt for that?
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[3:54] <aaa801> chithead, stupid exfat
[3:54] <aaa801> aparantly theres no 'official' support for it in ubuntu atm
[3:56] <stapper> What's ATM?
[3:56] <aaa801> at the moment
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[3:57] <timmmaaaayyy> anyone use solar to power their PI? i'd like to get a little something to be able to solar power my pi and the pi camera
[3:58] <timmmaaaayyy> i'll be using a model a
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[4:02] <steve_rox> sounds fun
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[4:02] <steve_rox> timmmaaaayyy , exclusive off solar or battery charged by it?
[4:03] <timmmaaaayyy> battery/solar i guess is the better way.
[4:03] <steve_rox> i tryed to boot rpi directly off solar
[4:04] <steve_rox> i went into a boot loop
[4:04] <steve_rox> since there was not enough power
[4:04] <timmmaaaayyy> how big is your panel?
[4:04] <timmmaaaayyy> i'm worried that i'd need quite a large panel to do this
[4:04] <steve_rox> erm i dont know the measurements
[4:04] <steve_rox> but its some 12v thing
[4:04] <hydroxygen> timmmaaaayyy, i use solar for my home, if used with a pi i would store in gel battery and use a regulator 7805 5v for 1 amp
[4:04] <timmmaaaayyy> so i'm thinking i might have to go with just a fat battery pack and only get <1day
[4:05] <steve_rox> fat battery?
[4:07] <steve_rox> going to try recondition some lead acid batterys when i can get the distilled water
[4:07] <steve_rox> i only know batterys to be fat when their cells warp and go malformed
[4:08] <JakeSays> well shit
[4:09] <steve_rox> room def needs a language filter :-P
[4:09] <timmmaaaayyy> just a huge battery pack. 300mah+
[4:09] <timmmaaaayyy> 3000
[4:09] <timmmaaaayyy> hydroxygen: you lost me.....i clearly need to learn alot more about solar. haha
[4:09] <steve_rox> thats like 3 Ah i think
[4:10] <hydroxygen> an 18ah would give u about 40hrs of use
[4:10] <timmmaaaayyy> 18ah.....is that battery size?
[4:10] <hydroxygen> solar charge a 18ah 12v gel and use a 7805 5volt regulator ..its good for 1amp
[4:11] <ozzzy> at 1A it would need a decent heatsink
[4:11] <steve_rox> btw i noticed rpi cam gets a bit funky when supplyed with a weak psu
[4:11] <steve_rox> lines appear and flickering
[4:11] <timmmaaaayyy> sounds pretty awesome. i might have to order this stuff up and start getting some experience with it
[4:11] <hydroxygen> 18ah is 3x6x10" +/-
[4:12] <JakeSays> hmm. can the pi boot from a usb stick?
[4:12] <hydroxygen> yes ozzzy heatsink required for the 7805
[4:12] <timmmaaaayyy> yes.....btu you still need an sd card
[4:12] <JakeSays> timmmaaaayyy: for what?
[4:12] <ozzzy> build a supply around an LM2576... at 1A doesn't need a sink
[4:12] <steve_rox> firmware
[4:13] <timmmaaaayyy> thats just how it works. it won't boot without an sd card. you'd have to find a tutorial that would explain it, beucse i can't. i just know you need the sd
[4:13] <steve_rox> least its very hard if not impossible to brick a rpi
[4:13] <JakeSays> timmmaaaayyy: well, if an sd card is required then you can't boot from anything but an sd card
[4:14] <steve_rox> the device allways looks for a sd on power up no matter what
[4:14] <timmmaaaayyy> you absolutely can put your OS on a usb stick.
[4:14] <aaa801> O_O their making a new sailor moon
[4:14] <aaa801> JakeSays, not directly
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[4:15] <JakeSays> timmmaaaayyy: putting the os on a stick is not the same as booting from the stick
[4:16] <timmmaaaayyy> ehhhh.....if your OS is on a USB stick, then i'd call that booting from a USB stick. i definitely could be wrong
[4:16] <ozzzy> you still need the boot manager on an SD card
[4:16] <timmmaaaayyy> but looking at it that way.....i guess no you can't boot from usb. haha
[4:16] <JakeSays> timmmaaaayyy: the boot disk is the disk with the boot loader on it
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[4:16] <timmmaaaayyy> ahhh. ok
[4:17] <JakeSays> hmm. but i could boot my pc from a linux stick and use that to fix these silly sd cards
[4:17] <pksato> write a big firmware like as on x86 arch. And boot from any thing.
[4:17] <aaa801> JakeSays, or you could use virtualbox
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[4:19] <aaa801> o god what is my cygwin doing
[4:19] <hydroxygen> ozzzy, i am old old school..thanks for the tip on the lm2576
[4:19] <aaa801> its uninstalling the 32 bit progys and going all 64 bit on me
[4:19] <JakeSays> aaa801: oh yeah i have vmware. i'll try that first.
[4:19] * hydroxygen shakes a bag of 780x series
[4:19] <aaa801> legit vmware :P?
[4:20] <ozzzy> yeah... I keep a pile of 7800s around
[4:20] <ozzzy> but... there's a good option
[4:20] <JakeSays> aaa801: of course.
[4:20] <hydroxygen> just read the specs of it..nice switch-mode
[4:20] <aaa801> any advantages of vmware over virtualbox these days =/
[4:21] <ozzzy> http://goo.gl/qOV4u
[4:21] <ozzzy> that's what powers my Pi
[4:21] <Xark> aaa801: Fewer Oracle logos? :)
[4:21] <aaa801> lol
[4:21] <JakeSays> aaa801: yes - vmware is installed, vbox isnt :p
[4:22] <aaa801> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HOBBYWING-RC-UBEC-Max-5A-Lowest-RF-Noise-BEC-5V-6V-3A-C-/110671555800?_trksid=p2047675.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222002%26algo%3DSIC.FIT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D11%26meid%3D5690193902446310478%26pid%3D100011%26prg%3D1005%26rk%3D1%26sd%3D280963026967%26
[4:22] <aaa801> moar amps :3
[4:22] <Phosie> I really need to get a powered hub...
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[4:23] <aaa801> ive never had to use a powered hub
[4:23] <aaa801> =/
[4:23] <aaa801> given my usb wall charger is a beast ha
[4:23] <Phosie> I wouldn't if I wasn't using a wireless mouse.
[4:23] <aaa801> o god
[4:23] <aaa801> WHY WOULD YOU USE A WIRELESS MOUSE
[4:23] <aaa801> TERRIBLE THINGS Q_Q
[4:23] <JakeSays> whats a good small, lightweight linux distro?
[4:23] <aaa801> arch
[4:24] <aaa801> or puppy
[4:24] <aaa801> depending on needs =/
[4:24] <JakeSays> aaa801: i use wireless mice as wireless switches
[4:24] <aaa801> aha
[4:24] <Phosie> Because my pi is connected to the tv, and I don't have a really long usb mouse.
[4:24] <JakeSays> aaa801: i need just enough linux to run dd
[4:24] <aaa801> JakeSays, DSL then
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[4:24] <aaa801> JakeSays, http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/
[4:24] <Phosie> I could probably get away with it if the receiver didn't double as a charging dock
[4:25] <JakeSays> heh. dsl it is.
[4:25] <aaa801> used to use that in highschool to bypass the stupid local filter
[4:25] <Phosie> I just used firefox portable on a usb stick connected to a proxy
[4:25] <JakeSays> damn
[4:26] <aaa801> ?
[4:26] <Phosie> Used to use sites but all the good ones got blocked
[4:26] <JakeSays> linux didnt exist when in was in h.s.
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[4:26] <aaa801> O_O
[4:26] <aaa801> how old are you
[4:26] <JakeSays> 'course neither did the internet
[4:26] <JakeSays> 45
[4:26] * aaa801 steps off the lawn
[4:26] <JakeSays> LOL
[4:26] <taza> aaa801: Dude, wireless mice can be fine now
[4:26] <aaa801> taza, that, slight, lag, soo, annoying!
[4:26] <taza> I was using one for gaming and still would if I didn't click it to death.
[4:27] <taza> There's no perceptible lag.
[4:27] <aaa801> However i also play osu
[4:27] <aaa801> so need dam on time clicks
[4:27] <aaa801> taza, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMtysoO9_Gc
[4:27] <taza> Dude, I can't perceive the lag and I have significantly faster perception than most people
[4:27] <aaa801> that game is amazing
[4:28] <taza> Of course, it was a $100 wireless mouse
[4:28] <aaa801> aha
[4:28] <aaa801> Ok why the hell is cygwin installing gnome
[4:28] <aaa801> Cygwin you are not linux, stop acting like you are =/
[4:28] <taza> (Logitech MX Performance Mouse)
[4:28] <aaa801> this is my mouse taza won it at a lan party http://www.cmstorm.com/en/products/peripherals/sentinelz3rog/
[4:29] <taza> Won mice, great.
[4:29] <taza> Cooler Master, the brand known for it's super-reliable super-fast mice.
[4:29] <JakeSays> damn. dsl must be being served from a friggin' dialup connection
[4:29] <aaa801> i also came away from that lan with a free g15, a free antec 1200 series and a a benq monitor i won
[4:30] <aaa801> :3
[4:30] <aaa801> tis was a good lan
[4:30] <taza> Yeah, all that is stuff I'd give away
[4:30] <aaa801> apart from coming back on the train with stuff
[4:30] <aaa801> the monitor is nice
[4:30] <JakeSays> when i was young we would come away with.. women from parties :p
[4:30] <aaa801> 24"
[4:30] <aaa801> lol
[4:30] <JakeSays> you guys are a bunch of geeks
[4:30] <taza> JakeSays: Says you.
[4:30] * aaa801 looks at paypal balance, AHA its got money in it,
[4:30] <aaa801> hehe
[4:31] <aaa801> ok cygwin has finished doing whatever the hell it was doing
[4:31] <aaa801> time to see what its changed into =/
[4:31] <JakeSays> i could've downloaded an entire mint iso in the time its taking to download dsl
[4:31] <taza> JakeSays: It's a technology channel, people will talk about technology.
[4:32] <aaa801> o heck its some half 32 bit half 64bit mutant
[4:32] <aaa801> shoot iti n the faCE!
[4:32] <JakeSays> taza: doesnt change the fact that you're geeks!
[4:32] * spacebug_ is now known as spacebug^
[4:32] <taza> JakeSays: If you want to know about our parties, try to find a party channel we're on.
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[4:32] <JakeSays> yeah i'll pass.
[4:32] <aaa801> lol
[4:33] <taza> Listen, kiddo - we may have lived, but the thing is, we have lived it, we don't need to brag about it for it to have happened.
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[4:33] <JakeSays> lived what?
[4:33] <JakeSays> and kiddo? LOL
[4:33] <taza> I won't go into the fine detail. You'll understand when you're older.
[4:34] <JakeSays> how much older?
[4:34] <aaa801> xD
[4:34] <taza> Probably 60's, possibly 70's
[4:34] <aaa801> Woo
[4:34] <aaa801> managed to get cygwin to make ext4 partitions properly
[4:35] <taza> It's a bit individual.
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[4:37] <JakeSays> aaa801: ext4 partitions on what?
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[4:37] <aaa801> JakeSays, on devices
[4:37] <aaa801> im using it to format my usb stick
[4:37] <JakeSays> ah ok
[4:37] <aaa801> aparantly formatting to ext4 takes bloody forever no matter what speed the bus is
[4:37] <aaa801> =/
[4:38] <JakeSays> well, cygwin is not know for being speedy
[4:38] <aaa801> ye but this is just raw io
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[4:38] <aaa801> prob due to 64gb usb
[4:38] <taza> Well, I could go on about what awaits most of us... but the thing is, it already awaits most of us, and it's the grim subject.
[4:39] <aaa801> How the hell can people coordinate this fast in games =/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_52427&feature=iv&src_vid=aXIrsbi7mKw&v=hE_KwSOl_U8
[4:39] <taza> Sanitize your dang link
[4:40] <aaa801> O_O
[4:40] <aaa801> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hE_KwSOl_U8
[4:40] <aaa801> HAPPY NOW
[4:40] <taza> Better.
[4:41] <aaa801> google is much worse for that crap lol
[4:41] <taza> That doesn't even look hard.
[4:41] <aaa801> !?
[4:41] <aaa801> go download it and try it ;)
[4:41] <Phosie> With google I'm unsure if I've pasted the whole link, or just hit the character limit
[4:42] <taza> The thing is, at those speed it's pointless to expect anyone to react.
[4:42] <taza> Instead, they've practiced the routine.
[4:43] <aaa801> taza, ive seen this guy on a new beatmap via spectate before, it was one around bout that speed, and he absultly blitzed it
[4:43] <taza> Doing it right on the first shot? Yeah, that's hard.
[4:44] <aaa801> not 100% but prety dam close
[4:44] * Xark likes the "undirect" extension for Chrome to "fix" the URLs from a Google search -> https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/undirect/dohbiijnjeiejifbgfdhfknogknkglio
[4:44] <aaa801> like 98-99
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[4:44] <aaa801> needs firefox
[4:44] <aaa801> q_q
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[4:45] <aaa801> taza, i can do this map easily, not that fast but its a wrist killer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7U_uGRrzbmc
[4:46] <taza> Yeah, yeah, enough.
[4:46] <aaa801> How the heck did i get from making a preempt_rt kernel to playing osu
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[4:46] <taza> Mice.
[4:46] <aaa801> dam mice
[4:48] <nerdboy> wow, i actually didn't have to mess with the cmake stuff
[4:48] <nerdboy> it Just Built...
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[4:50] <aaa801> ..?
[4:54] <nerdboy> new recipe for tint2
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[4:54] <nerdboy> making a custom oe image for the pi
[4:55] <aaa801> kk
[4:56] <aaa801> mhm getting some wierd interferance on my headset
[4:57] <aaa801> the best way i can describe it is like the noise of a floppy disc drive when you insert a broken disk
[4:58] <aaa801> and its gone O_O
[4:58] <aaa801> completly silent now
[4:58] <zerooneone> hi there. I'm having these kernel errors on a raspian pi which kills usb after 24-48 hours: smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0: eth0: Failed to read register index 0x00000114; smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0: eth0: Error reading MII_ACCESS; smsc95xx 1-1.1:1.0: eth0: MII is busy in smsc95xx_mdio_read
[4:58] <zerooneone> i've apt-get upgraded and rpi-updated but it hasn't helped. any ideas?
[4:58] <JakeSays> aaa801: dd on dsl is a calculator
[4:58] <aaa801> O_O
[4:59] <aaa801> whats the package manager on that acient thing =/
[4:59] <nerdboy> zerooneone: make another card ...
[5:00] <JakeSays> beats me
[5:00] <aaa801> lemme grab the iso
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[5:00] <zerooneone> nerdboy: what do you mean, "make another card"?
[5:01] <aaa801> downloadeds
[5:01] <nerdboy> i'm assuming you started with the raspbian image?
[5:01] <nerdboy> make a fresh one and update again
[5:01] <zerooneone> yes this was a stock raspian
[5:02] <zerooneone> i did that already
[5:02] * [Saint] thinks "reflash your image" gets tossed around as a solution WAY too much in here.
[5:02] <nerdboy> so you got that error twice ?
[5:03] <[Saint]> That's not a solution to anything other than irreparable filesystems.
[5:03] <aaa801> err JakeSays what version did you download
[5:03] <aaa801> http://i.imgur.com/xmCQJNs.png
[5:03] <zerooneone> for example, i rebooted it yesterday and got the error at 11:30am and it continued with the same erroros and no networking or usb until i pulled the plug
[5:04] <zerooneone> 11:30a, this morning
[5:04] <nerdboy> [Saint]: i'm always rebuilding my openembedded image for testing new stuff, so i reflash cards several times a day...
[5:04] <JakeSays> aaa801: LOL. type man dd.
[5:04] <[Saint]> nerdboy: that's fine - for you. But that doesn't make it a solution for everyone else.
[5:04] <aaa801> http://i.imgur.com/1nGcUnN.png
[5:05] <aaa801> did you scroll up and see DC
[5:05] <aaa801> lol
[5:05] <nerdboy> but i haven't seen any ethernet errors like that either, with any cards
[5:05] <nerdboy> eo/gentoo/rasbian/xbmc
[5:05] <JakeSays> aaa801: yes after two or three tries
[5:05] <aaa801> aha
[5:05] <aaa801> pebcak..
[5:06] <zerooneone> nerdboy: it's a thing that happens to other people. the google told me
[5:06] <[Saint]> If you want to re-image often, great. However, understanding the problem and actually fixing it is a LOT better than shrugging and wiping everything because you can't/don't want to understand the issue.
[5:06] <JakeSays> ok so how to i figure out the device id of my sd reader?
[5:06] <[Saint]> This is an educational device after all.
[5:06] <nerdboy> well, it's a little too easy to dork up things with apt-get so reflashing isn't such a bad way to verify things...
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[5:06] <aaa801> cat /proc/partitions ?
[5:07] <zerooneone> i'm very familiar with debian and there have been no apt-get issues
[5:07] <nerdboy> feel free to help him then, but spare us the lecture please
[5:07] <JakeSays> aaa801: that gives me nothing
[5:07] <aaa801> !?
[5:08] <[Saint]> Do please try not to answer unless you actually have an answer, then.
[5:08] <aaa801> not even the hda partition ?
[5:08] <JakeSays> nope
[5:09] <aaa801> your pc is bad juju
[5:09] <JakeSays> i get the column headers and thats it
[5:09] <aaa801> hold on
[5:09] <aaa801> been forever since ive used dsl
[5:09] <aaa801> wonder if it even has sd card drivers =/
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[5:09] <nerdboy> it *was* an answer, and he responded
[5:09] <JakeSays> aaa801: lol. i'm gonna build a mint vm
[5:10] <[Saint]> nerdboy: Ohhhh - I guess we should just direct all support to "reflash ur imagez".
[5:10] <[Saint]> Gotcha ;)
[5:10] <aaa801> if you go apps -> tools -> upgrade to gnu you may have luck
[5:10] <nerdboy> so please feel free to kiss my 53-year ols ass
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[5:11] <zerooneone> nerdboy: i appreciate the suggestion, and i will try a reimage to eliminate that as a possibility
[5:12] <zerooneone> i'd love to figure this out because a remote install is no good to me without networking
[5:12] <aaa801> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[5:12] <[Saint]> zerooneone: you're free to do that, of course, but the fact you said you have done so and the issue continued suggests it'll be a waste of time, or you're restoring a setup to that image which is causing the issue.
[5:12] <aaa801> was doing a cp of root from sd to usb
[5:12] <aaa801> forgot the stupid preserve mode flag
[5:12] <aaa801> Q_Q
[5:13] <zerooneone> [Saint]: good point. i honestly don't remember all the steps i took to get to where i wanted, and maybe the errors are a result of my config
[5:14] <JakeSays> aaa801: no luck.
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[5:14] <aaa801> try puting the sd in then running dmesg ?
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[5:14] <nerdboy> you could try ethtool/mii-tool if they're availablle
[5:15] <zerooneone> nerdboy: what do they do?
[5:15] <nerdboy> but that looks like a hardware error most likely
[5:16] <nerdboy> let you read some ethernet registers, set things manually, etc
[5:17] <nerdboy> occasionally you have a device on the other end that fubars the autonegotiation, but that's not really wht this looks like
[5:18] <nerdboy> but you could try forcing some of the link options and see if fails
[5:18] <nerdboy> *it
[5:21] <JakeSays> aaa801: too late - i'm already minting
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[5:24] <geordie> zerooneone: what kind of power supply are you using?
[5:25] <geordie> the ethernet should not just die on you - it doesn't for a lot of people
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[5:26] <[Saint]> It dioes for all of us under heavy IO.
[5:26] <[Saint]> *does
[5:26] <[Saint]> IO can exhaust the stack, and...bam...network falls over.
[5:27] <nerdboy> built a gentoo card here (with nfs mounted packages/distfiles) and no problems...
[5:27] <zerooneone> geordie: it's a 1a jobber
[5:28] <geordie> zerooneone: does having the usb camera on seem to have an effect on how soon the network goes down?
[5:28] <zerooneone> i'm doing ftp up every 5 minutes and usb cam snap every minute so they line up
[5:28] <geordie> what's la jobber?
[5:29] <zerooneone> 1Amp jobber
[5:29] <JakeSays> geordie: redneck for a 1 amp powersupply
[5:29] <geordie> haha i read 1 as l
[5:29] <nerdboy> excuse me stewardess, i speak jive *and* redneck
[5:30] <zerooneone> i'm considering a power timer that shuts it off at night
[5:30] <zerooneone> that is the depth that i've sunk
[5:30] <JakeSays> zerooneone: why?
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[5:30] <geordie> zerooneone: i'll trade you power supplies for a while if you like
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[5:31] <geordie> just to rule it out as the root cause
[5:31] <zerooneone> cause i want it to just work. and after tuesday i'll be a six hour drive away
[5:31] <nerdboy> zerooneone: if you have a few bucks, try an iboot
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[5:32] * JakeSays prefers uboot
[5:32] <zerooneone> i think i might just buy a pair of the new rpi cameras
[5:33] <JakeSays> how is the rpi camera?
[5:33] <JakeSays> i've been considering one
[5:33] <zerooneone> cause these usb cams are shit. i had to make a paper aperature for outdoor uses
[5:33] <nerdboy> http://dataprobe.com/iboot-remote-reboot.php
[5:33] <geordie> i ordered one; i have no idea when it's going to actually ship
[5:34] <zerooneone> time for ranch tacos. bbiab
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[5:37] <JakeSays> hmm. allied doesnt appear to be selling the cameras
[5:38] <geordie> "coming soon"
[5:38] <geordie> i ordered from newark
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[5:41] <JakeSays> dang the camera is almost as much as the pi
[5:42] <aaa801> ok that wierd interference seems to trigure when theres activity on the usb bus on the front of my case =/
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[5:49] <geordie> zerooneone: have you checked the voltage of that psu?
[5:49] <geordie> not all are created equal
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[5:53] <aaa801> woo
[5:53] <aaa801> finaly got a preempt_rt kernel running
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[5:55] <geordie> zerooneone: are you using a powered hub for the usb camera?
[5:57] <geordie> you need to rule out power supply issues
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[6:25] <jroysdon> Bought one of these solar packs at Costco for $99, and happy to find that it powers my Pi + WiPi + 7" RCA display when running on the batteries, and with a positive charge to the batteries.
[6:25] <jroysdon> http://www.goalzero.com/guide10.html
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[6:29] <devslash> i had a usb hard drive connected to my pi 24/7 with an entry in /etc/fstab to auto mount it. i don't want to use this usb hard drive anymore so i commented out the line in stab and when i rebooted it hangs. am i forgetting something ? is there something else i need to do
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[6:33] <devslash> is anyone around ?
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[6:34] <morgazmo> Can anyone tell me if it's feasible to have a pi connected to my house wi-fi, then put it in the car, drive away - and still connect to the pi through an android/iphone remote app?
[6:35] <[Saint]> ...via what network? Assuming you don't have multiple kilometers or wireless range.
[6:36] <[Saint]> Drive away from the AP, and your connection will go down...this is wifi101.
[6:37] <devslash> i had a usb hard drive connected to my pi 24/7 with an entry in /etc/fstab to auto mount it. i don't want to use this usb hard drive anymore so i commented out the line in stab and when i rebooted it hangs. am i forgetting something ? is there something else i need to do if i plug the usb drive back in it boots fine
[6:37] <morgazmo> Can the wifi on the phone communicate direct to the pi without a network? adhoc or the like..
[6:37] <[Saint]> devslash: there's no need to repeat yourself.
[6:38] <[Saint]> morgazmo: Oh, yes. Sure. You can setup an AP from the Pi. Sure.
[6:38] <[Saint]> The way you worded it initially seemed a little odd. Yes. You can do that, sure.
[6:39] <morgazmo> any ideas if I can make it try to connect to the home network - then revert to the PI AP if there is no connection?
[6:39] <[Saint]> morgazmo: assuming you allow it to connect to the network(s) automatically, that should "just work", yes.
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[6:40] <morgazmo> Cheers Saint, I'll get a bit more familiar with the settings - Just wanted to make sure what I was trying is in fact possible..
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[6:54] <morgazmo> Saint - It all seems straightforward. The only complication for me is I want to switch between home / car networks on the fly preferably without a monitor.
[6:54] <morgazmo> At home I want my Pi to connect to the wifi automatically (home SSID), but when I'm out of range - it needs to change to its own AP settings. Can profiles do this, or a script.. maybe some voodoo?
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[6:57] * morgazmo might just have two sd cards - two installs and set them up for each scenario...
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[7:33] <ComraDerpyPi> hey, is fedora 18 remix not hard float? im trying to run minecraft pi edition and i get ld hard float errors
[7:33] <ComraDerpyPi> uname doesnt really say anything i can understand
[7:34] <ComraDerpyPi> cause its 2x snappier than raspbian or arch as well.... but it would be a bummer to not run minecraft for fun. :)
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[7:35] <Triffid_Hunter> ComraDerpyPi: gcc -dumpmachine
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[7:36] <ComraDerpyPi> armv5tel-redhat-linux-gnueabi
[7:36] <ComraDerpyPi> i take it cause im using armv5 binaries hardfloat can not be used?
[7:37] <Triffid_Hunter> ComraDerpyPi: no idea, usually it'll say armv6hf or similar.. might be something in gcc -dumpspecs
[7:37] <Triffid_Hunter> ComraDerpyPi: why are you using armv5 binaries on an armv6 core in the first place?
[7:37] <ComraDerpyPi> its fedora pi remix
[7:38] <ComraDerpyPi> afaik, was blogged 50/50 (in my understanding) to switch to armv6
[7:38] <ComraDerpyPi> err, for release 18
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[7:40] <ComraDerpyPi> it looks like there's mfl-abt=soft and also defined hard, it looks like im running the floating i want
[7:40] <ComraDerpyPi> oh my terminal is derping mfloat-*
[7:40] <ComraDerpyPi> brb
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[7:44] <ComraDerpyPi> im still poking around..... ld errors mean a broke distro, or even broke hardware imo
[7:44] <sgerbino> hello all, i am trying to work on sending strings back and forth between pi and arduino.. i have tested all code from arduino and it is working fine from pi in minicom, and serial monitor in arduino IDE.. the problem is somewhere in my C++ code here: http://pastebin.com/gSnVE9Bf
[7:45] <sgerbino> anyone see an issue with this?
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[7:53] <ComraDerpyPi> would you like some fruit fedora? no? party pooper. :)
[7:57] <[Saint]> Foolish mortal!
[7:57] <[Saint]> Hats care not for fruit!
[7:58] <Triffid_Hunter> sgerbino: howcome you're using wiringPi calls for a usb serial port? suggest using standard file I/O calls instead
[7:59] <sgerbino> i dunno it looked like easy-mode, and i had a similar example that did work with it
[8:00] <Triffid_Hunter> sgerbino: also suggest you use a newline.. unless you set the flush options properly, printf may not write anything until you put a newline. strace will help with that
[8:01] <sgerbino> hmm ok, i did try serialPutchar to no avail
[8:02] <Triffid_Hunter> sgerbino: well strace will show you all the syscalls your program is making. that'll at least let you know if it's doing proper writes and reads
[8:03] <sgerbino> ok will try that
[8:03] <sgerbino> thanks
[8:03] <sgerbino> ill try re-writing with linux i/o funcs too
[8:06] <Triffid_Hunter> sgerbino: one thing I've learnt from programming is don't trust libraries to do the right thing, all too frequently they simply don't and leave you head-desking for days
[8:07] <sgerbino> yea i think ill subscribe to that :D
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[8:21] <ComraDerpyPi> ok, ive found out im running soft float (figured so as per armv5 distribution) but is it still possible to compile a 3d shooter game and get `good' performance on soft float. asking: will the gpu still work?
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[8:22] <ComraDerpyPi> quicker i can compile quake 1-3 or something with this so called special edition of opengl would be great. since im limited in every universe with software creation. i just want to play games :)
[8:23] <ComraDerpyPi> ill resort to chocolate-doom if i have to, dont say play xbox :)
[8:25] <ComraDerpyPi> derp de derp..... what a smashing party in here tonight B)
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[8:26] <Triffid_Hunter> ComraDerpyPi: I compiled quake3 on my pi running raspbian, get 20-30fps or so.. that's with hardfloat
[8:26] <Triffid_Hunter> no idea how it would go with softfloat, and no idea how much performance you might lose from not being able to use armv6 instructions
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[8:29] <ComraDerpyPi> funny thing. i think my element 14 raspbian card is defunctional. (id feel like a trolling idiot returning such a volatile electronic to a `parts store') raspbian on apt-get upgrade causes a reboot to dump me to a debugger. :P
[8:30] <ComraDerpyPi> arch was fine, its not for me, fedora is well; fedora. its not a gaming machine and wasnt purchased to be intended as one, but i get bored.
[8:34] <ComraDerpyPi> searched high and low for a centos server like hard float image, nothing exists afaik
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[8:36] <ComraDerpyPi> ok one last mundane but relevant question. do all arm cpu's use opengl es?
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[8:51] <BlueMint> Anyone ever installed dwarf fortress on their pi?
[8:56] <eephyne> dwarf fortress on pi ?
[8:56] <eephyne> you're crazy BlueMint
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[8:56] <BlueMint> Crazy, yes. But smart? no.
[8:56] <ComraDerpyPi> is that the tf for doom?
[8:56] <eephyne> despite the fact the it use ascii , dwarf fortress is an huge cpu eater
[8:57] <ComraDerpyPi> oh another game :)
[8:57] <eephyne> you surely can install it but imo it'll be unplayable
[8:57] <BlueMint> Fair enough
[8:57] <eephyne> and i'm not even sure you can install it
[8:58] <eephyne> depend if it is available in arm
[8:59] <BlueMint> I'm sure it would be
[8:59] <BlueMint> But yeah, I aint going to try
[8:59] <eephyne> you can
[9:00] <eephyne> maybe if you choose a tiny map it can be playable
[9:00] <eephyne> (at start)
[9:00] <BlueMint> I might SSH it or something to the pi...
[9:00] <eephyne> but with one hundred dwarf in the fortress
[9:00] <BlueMint> Even a 3770K can barely support it hehe
[9:00] <eephyne> yeah i though about that too
[9:01] <eephyne> with my old laptop (amd e450) it wasn't so fluid either
[9:01] <eephyne> so I didn't even bother try on the pi
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[9:29] <gordonDrogon> Good sunday morning peoples.
[9:31] <gordonDrogon> super3, http://wiringpi.com/examples/adafruit-rgb-lcd-plate-and-wiringpi/
[9:31] <super3> hi
[9:32] <bts__> hello
[9:32] <[Saint]> gordonDrogon: Do us lowly late Sunday evening peoples get a mention too? :)
[9:32] <super3> gordonDrogon, is thats what is wrong?
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[9:37] <gordonDrogon> [Saint], ah well, that's timezones for you :)
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[9:38] <gordonDrogon> super3, hi - just saw the image link you posted - wondered if you were wanting more info on it..
[9:39] <super3> nah it doesn't seem to work
[9:39] <super3> buttons work, and backlight works
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[9:39] <super3> as per the sample script, but it doesn't display anything
[9:39] <super3> i think i might have soldered something got up to par
[9:40] <super3> just wanted to see if anyone had seen a screen look like that, i should get access to a multimeter tomorrow though
[9:40] <gordonDrogon> the screen looks like that if you crank up the contrast pot before you initialise the display.
[9:41] <gordonDrogon> odd to see how it can be wrong if the buttons & backlight works though - that accounts for the mcp23017 working,etc.
[9:42] <super3> yeah it showed up on the MCP23017 when i was following the tutorial
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[9:43] <super3> what does GPIO7(CE1) do?
[9:44] <gordonDrogon> it's one of the SPI lines.
[9:44] <gordonDrogon> can be used for a normal IO pin if not using SPI.
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[9:46] <super3> hmmm
[9:47] <super3> does it connect to the 16x2 board somehow?
[9:47] <super3> there is a little chip in the plastic for the molding
[9:47] <super3> im not sure if its all the way connected to the board, i think it is, but im not sure
[9:51] <gordonDrogon> it should be, but I've not checked the schematic that close. The board only needs power and the 2 I2C pins.
[9:51] <gordonDrogon> *shouldn't
[9:52] <super3> where are the two ic pins?
[9:53] <Syliss> hmm, radio shack has some boards on sale for like $10
[9:53] <Syliss> may have to look for a proto board
[9:53] <gordonDrogon> if you put the Pi next to you, with composite facing you/hdmi facing away, then the top right of the 26-pin gpio connector is +3.3 and the to immediately to the left of that pin are the I2C pins.
[9:56] <super3> hmmm
[9:56] <super3> ok i see it
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[10:03] <gordonDrogon> Hm. breakfast time I think!
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[10:10] <Syliss> bed time i think
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[11:13] <gordonDrogon> Anyone here using the Quick2Wire boards?
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[11:32] * gordonDrogon guesses not...
[11:32] <gordonDrogon> but it is a quiet Sunday morning though :)
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[11:43] <BlueMint> Does that audio jack on the RPi take a mic input?
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[11:46] <chod> BlueMint: good question, what do you need
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[11:47] <mgottschlag> the audio jack is output-only
[11:47] <BlueMint> hello again chod! I just wanna get some audio from my computer get it onto my pi :P
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[11:47] <BlueMint> mgottschlag, dayumn :/
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[11:55] <komunista> hi all
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[12:36] <gordonDrogon> hi
[12:37] <ozzzy> howdy
[12:37] <nxtec> morning
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[12:41] <CaptObvious> Does anyone here use a rPi in their car?
[12:41] <CaptObvious> I'm thinking of hooking one up to my aux in port and running spotify on it
[12:42] <CaptObvious> the only problem I'd have is controlling it
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[12:43] <gordonDrogon> CaptObvious, Adafruit RBG LCD display? http://wiringpi.com/examples/adafruit-rgb-lcd-plate-and-wiringpi/
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[12:44] <CaptObvious> that's not a bad idea
[12:45] <CaptObvious> I was thinking of maybe a small bluetooth keypad that I can attach somewhere in the car
[12:45] <gordonDrogon> seems to be jsut the thing for little stand-alone projects - unless you really need a "proper" display that is..
[12:45] <CaptObvious> I'm not too bothered about getting display out
[12:45] <CaptObvious> I have a car playlist, I'd just need play/pause, previous and next
[12:47] <CaptObvious> this is only necessary because I didn't pay the extra to get a car that's 6 months newer and has A2DP support built in ¬.¬
[12:48] <gordonDrogon> I must be one of those rare people that doesn't like listening to music, etc. in the car...
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[12:51] <CaptObvious> I do long drives
[12:55] <gordonDrogon> I used to. quite rare now. still preferred to be mostly quiet though.
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[12:57] <Tachyon`> wait until you get kids, quiet will be a distant memory
[12:58] <gordonDrogon> I don't have kids. I'm also 50, so the chances of me ever having kids are somewhat remote...
[12:59] <ShiftPlusOne> BlueMint, if you want audio from your computer to the pi, you might be best of streaming it over the network.
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[13:00] <BlueMint> ShiftPlusOne, it was more to tap into my audio before it went into the amp, so I could do fancy stuff with my mp3 plyer or computer
[13:00] <ShiftPlusOne> BlueMint, what kind of fancy stuff?
[13:01] <BlueMint> ShiftPlusOne, (EPILEPSY WARNING) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIz7CIov84o making this go in time with sound
[13:02] <Tachyon`> oh okay, you're probably safe then, lol
[13:02] <ShiftPlusOne> you can still do that. Process it and output whatever you need to over GPIO while playing the audio.
[13:04] <ShiftPlusOne> For example, FFT the audio and use that data to strobe the light in some interesting way.
[13:05] <ShiftPlusOne> And you've got the same keyboard as me D=
[13:05] <BlueMint> Hmmm, so you're saying put the audio through to a GPIO input pin? (ATM machine language)
[13:05] <BlueMint> ShiftPlusOne, razer black widow?
[13:06] <ShiftPlusOne> No, I am saying feed the audio through the network and play it over the pi, or play it over the other computer as you control the light with the pi.
[13:06] <ShiftPlusOne> and yes, that keyboard.
[13:07] <BlueMint> Hmm, yes I think that is an awesome option
[13:07] <BlueMint> Also, despite what some people may say, it is a bloody awesome keyboard
[13:07] <ShiftPlusOne> I like it. A bit loud, but I have no problems with it.
[13:08] <BlueMint> Good volume during the day, very loud during the night
[13:09] <ShiftPlusOne> How is that light controlled?
[13:09] <BlueMint> My computer gives serial commands to an arduino which has built in functions
[13:09] <ShiftPlusOne> ah
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[13:12] <ShiftPlusOne> Good excuse to learn about signal processing and FFT then.
[13:13] <BlueMint> ShiftPlusOne, yes, I was just reading up about it and it seems quite complex but fun to learn
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[13:13] <ShiftPlusOne> You probably don't have to implement it yourself, since there are probably 100s of DSP libraries for that sort of thing.
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[13:14] <BlueMint> I wouldn't know where to start if I had to implement it myself...
[13:15] <BlueMint> also, I never realised how fast data could transfer when using ethernet cables. Wow.
[13:15] <ShiftPlusOne> >_<
[13:15] <ShiftPlusOne> Yeah, they're ahm... good.
[13:15] <dreamreal> heh
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[13:18] <BlueMint> ShiftPlusOne, I think you have answered every question I have ever had about my RPi (that I didn't google), so thanks :)
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[13:18] <ShiftPlusOne> np
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[13:25] <pasky> Hi! Most of the information I was able to Google out is from last June or something, so I was wondering - are there any new hacks for connecting Raspberry Pi as USB device to another USB host? Either for model B or model A. It doesn't necessarily need to use just the SOC, but it could be a design e.g. using (less preferrably) FTDI chip on the serial console or (more preferrably) a USB device connected to RPi that can act as host-to-host bridge ...
[13:25] <pasky> ... (and supply an arbitrary device ID to the other host)
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[13:28] <SpeedEvil> b - absolutely impossible.
[13:29] <KanjiMonster> ShiftPlusOne: found the culprit, was an OpenWrt patch for reducing the kernel size that removed a bit too much
[13:29] <SpeedEvil> a - I'm unsure, but don't believe anyone has managed it
[13:30] <ShiftPlusOne> KanjiMonster, ah so the mainline kernel actually boots into a usable environment without any extras?
[13:30] <KanjiMonster> ShiftPlusOne: 3.9.2 does, 3.10-rc1 seems to be broken (funny panics on boot)
[13:31] <ShiftPlusOne> KanjiMonster, Didn't know that, thanks.
[13:32] <KanjiMonster> ShiftPlusOne: will probably still require a lot of handywork, so nothing more than a "okay, boots to command line on serial" - at least the memory reservation for the GPU is not properly passed to the kernel through device tree
[13:32] <dreamreal> I'm at the maker faire in san mateo this weekend
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[13:33] <dreamreal> there are not a lot of pis, although there're a few, and eben upton is there
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[13:36] <gordonDrogon> a man who does a lot of travel :)
[13:36] <dreamreal> yeah, the person I'm with expects him to drop by the booth but he hasn't quite yet
[13:36] <dreamreal> or if he has, it was while I wasn't there
[13:38] <pasky> SpeedEvil: why would it be absolutely impossible on b?
[13:38] <SpeedEvil> the USB port is connected to a USB hub
[13:39] <SpeedEvil> this can't be switched caveats
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[13:39] <SpeedEvil> backwards
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[13:44] <plugwash> while you could possiblly find a chip that could act as an arbitary USB device and could be connected to the Pis GPIO i'm not sure it would be worthwhile to do so
[13:44] <plugwash> if you want a board where the main processor can act as a USB device i'd suggest the beaglebone black
[13:46] <SpeedEvil> Maxim does/ did a USB host i2c/spirit coo
[13:46] <SpeedEvil> chip
[13:46] <SpeedEvil> spi
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[13:53] <pasky> SpeedEvil: but as I said, I don't see why everyone insists that it must be the SOC itself that works as the USB device?
[13:55] <SpeedEvil> because that's the usual meaning
[13:56] <SpeedEvil> requiring an externally plugged in wierd adaptor...
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[13:58] <pasky> SpeedEvil: well, why care how it's done as long as it works?
[13:59] <pasky> what surprises me that I couldn't find any solution even with external adapters
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[13:59] <SpeedEvil> because the y don't exist as commercial products
[14:00] <SpeedEvil> the hardware I mentioned above is extremely limited
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[14:03] <Satorin> My SD card keeps dying all the time, lasting usually ~5 days after a reinstall. Happens with different SD cards, too.
[14:03] <Satorin> Anyone has any clue as to why?
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[14:03] <schnuws> Dying as in not working anymore?
[14:03] <ShiftPlusOne> Most likely culprit is probably a bad power supply.
[14:09] <Satorin> I/O errors.
[14:10] <Satorin> I run my Pi 24/7 as a server, but the load is relatively low.
[14:10] <Satorin> I/O errors resulting in segfaults when using simple commands, and randomly corrupting files.
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[14:23] <gyeben> hi
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[14:58] <\\Mr_C\\> either mirrordirector.raspbian.org or archive.raspbian.org cn be used right?
[14:58] <\\Mr_C\\> cn=can
[14:59] <\\Mr_C\\> because they both look the same as in files
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[15:00] <Tachyon`> satellit, are you overclocking your pi?
[15:00] <Tachyon`> erm, Satorin*
[15:00] <Satorin> No.
[15:00] <Satorin> Clocked at stock speed.
[15:00] <Tachyon`> hrm, probably is the PSU then
[15:01] <Tachyon`> or the fuse
[15:01] <plugwash> \\Mr_C\\, The files are the same, the difference is that mirrordirector.raspbian.org will usually redirect you to a mirror rathe than serving the file directly while archive.raspbian.org will always server the file directly
[15:01] <Satorin> Had it happen with both Raspbian and ArchLinux ARM.
[15:01] <Tachyon`> do you have much plugged into it?
[15:01] <Tachyon`> in the form of USB devices
[15:02] <\\Mr_C\\> oh, so there is a pissibility the mirrordirector may not have the current files?
[15:02] <\\Mr_C\\> hehe
[15:02] <\\Mr_C\\> possibility
[15:02] <Tachyon`> no
[15:02] <plugwash> no mirrordirector will always have the current files
[15:02] <Tachyon`> mirrors are as the name suggests, mirrors
[15:02] <Tachyon`> it reduces the load on the main servers
[15:02] <\\Mr_C\\> oh, ok
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[15:03] <plugwash> redirection is done on an individual file level and the mirrordirector will only send a request for a given file to a mirror once it's confirmed that the mirror has that file
[15:03] <\\Mr_C\\> ok, i understand
[15:04] <\\Mr_C\\> im trying to make my own clean install
[15:04] <\\Mr_C\\> from a laptop using qemu-debootstrap
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[15:24] <Satorin> Tachyonn` nothing.
[15:24] <Satorin> I have an LCD on the GPIO pins, but the issue also occurs with that disconnected.
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[16:13] <bigx> hi there
[16:15] <bigx> i'm trying to use UARTs pins to send data to a Minitel terminal (french ancestor of the internet)
[16:16] <bigx> so I need to configure a tty to send and recieve data over uarts
[16:16] <bigx> and i have some troubles with that
[16:17] <bigx> do you have some configuration of getty that works to point me out?
[16:22] <plugwash> hope you put a level shifter in
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[16:22] <plugwash> if you have connected things up without a level shifter you will almost certainly have fried the serial connection on the Pi
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[16:43] <Elspuddy> any one know how i can view the pi screen (that is down staires) on my pc up here with my pc and vnc ?
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[16:44] <schnuws> you kind of just described how to solve your problem yourself o.o
[16:44] <schnuws> install vnc and connect to it with your pc :P
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[16:45] <Elspuddy> yes, but vnc dose not show me the screen down staires
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[16:46] <schnuws> so, you want to mirror the screen?
[16:47] <Elspuddy> yes
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[16:55] <chod> apt-get xrdp or such like
[16:55] <chod> the rdp back to the pi from whatever box
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[17:06] <Elspuddy> and i can use tightvnc ?
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[17:11] <Elspuddy> sorry, so confused right now :(
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[17:16] <Demp> my pi stopped working. the PWR led is the only one on. I'm trying to follow this http://elinux.org/R-Pi_Troubleshooting and it says I should be able to locate bootcode.bin and fixup.dat on the sd card, but I can't seem to find them. are they suppose to be in the boot partition?
[17:17] <KanjiMonster> they are supposed to be in the vfat partion
[17:19] <Demp> any particular directory?
[17:19] <KanjiMonster> no, directly in the root - bootcode.bin, fixup.dat, start.elf
[17:20] <Demp> alright, so they don't exist. any way to fix that?
[17:21] <KanjiMonster> is the kernel at least there? (kernel.img)
[17:21] <Demp> (pi was working a few hours ago, stopped working after a power outage)
[17:22] <Demp> nope. all I have there is cmdline.txt, config.txt, issue.txt, start.elf, start_cd.elf and start_x.elf
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[17:23] <KanjiMonster> then you are missing at least the bootcode.bin and a kernel image, which must match the OS installed on the sd card
[17:25] <Demp> os is raspbian, so copying these files from the raspbian image should work?
[17:26] <KanjiMonster> yes
[17:27] <Demp> I'll give that a go then, thanks. anything I should be careful with? file permissions/ownership and such?
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[17:27] <KanjiMonster> this is vfat, there is no such thing as permissions/ownership ;)
[17:27] <Demp> alright :)
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[17:54] <bigx> plugwash: i put a tension divider (2 resistor) on the rx of the pi, a direct cable on the tx
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[17:56] <bigx> i know it's not protected but there's no overvoltage in my system, and it was a quick test, the final stuff will be based on 2N2222s
[17:57] <KanjiMonster> bigx: the problem is RS232 uses -12/+12V for 0/1, the raspi uses +3.3V/0V
[17:57] <bigx> the MINITEL uses 0/+5v
[17:57] <KanjiMonster> even then it's a huge difference
[17:57] <KanjiMonster> ah
[17:57] <KanjiMonster> 5V
[17:57] <KanjiMonster> still more than the raspi
[17:58] <bigx> that's why i put a tension divider on the rx of the pi
[17:58] <bigx> to lower to 3v
[17:58] <KanjiMonster> also note that the raspi uses active low
[17:58] <bigx> on the tx, there's no need since it's TTL, 3.3v is above 2.4v
[17:58] <bigx> active low?
[17:59] <KanjiMonster> 3.3V = 0, 0V = 1
[17:59] <bigx> ha!
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[18:00] <bigx> do you have some electronic schema that will ower and inverse the voltage?
[18:00] <bigx> *ower=lower
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[18:08] <bigx> someone told me to try that setup
[18:08] <bigx> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17657227/Info/piMinitiel.png
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[18:10] <bigx> but I don't get the meaning of the +5v and +3.3v arrows, does that mean I need to put some voltage in the circuit? I don't think so, no?
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[18:12] <mgottschlag> bigx: yes, you have to
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[18:13] <mgottschlag> both devices need a common ground line, then you can just take 5V/3.3V from the pi
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[18:14] <bigx> thx mgottschlag, and do you think the schema is ok?
[18:14] <bigx> let me do some fritzing to check if I understood the stuff
[18:14] <mgottschlag> I have no idea how the minitel uart works
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[18:17] <gordonDrogon> hasn't France turned off minitel now?
[18:20] <bigx> they did
[18:20] <bigx> that's why i want to recycle it as a pi terminal
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[18:21] <bigx> the minitel uart is pretty simple
[18:21] <bigx> there's a DIN socket on the back
[18:22] <bigx> one pin is for rx, one other is for tx
[18:22] <bigx> and you can switch the minitel mode to tell him to communicate through uart
[18:22] <bigx> at 4800bps
[18:23] <bigx> it's an open TTL collector
[18:23] <bigx> working with 0/+5v
[18:26] <gordonDrogon> ok
[18:27] <gordonDrogon> if minital is just a box that connects to your TV, then can't you plug your Pi directly into the TV?
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[18:27] <gordonDrogon> however that circuit ought to work if you can build it.
[18:28] <bigx> MINTIEL is a keyboard + screen
[18:28] <gordonDrogon> ah, ok. thought it was just a box to plug into TV..
[18:29] <bigx> it's a 80s stuff, the ancestor of the internet for personal use
[18:29] <gordonDrogon> Yes, I know what it was...
[18:29] <gordonDrogon> We had Prestel in the UK, but they charged too much for it, so it never really took off.
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[18:30] <bigx> oh nice
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[18:38] <Alezaru> hi
[18:39] <nxtec> hello
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[18:40] <Alezaru> i search somes projects to manage indoor garden with raspberry gpio
[18:40] <Alezaru> if u have somes good links .. ;)
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[18:44] <gordonDrogon> what sort of management - inputs like temperature, humidity, or outputs like turning on the water?
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[18:44] <SpeedEvil> laser insect shooting.
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[18:45] <SpeedEvil> automatic weeding.
[18:45] <jopie> I just managed to kill apt-get on my raspbmc while trying to add mopidy. Any ideas? http://pastebin.com/xt61v27X
[18:45] <SpeedEvil> automatic harvesting
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[18:46] <SpeedEvil> bird plucker.
[18:46] <SpeedEvil> rabbit defenestration unit.
[18:46] <SpeedEvil> burglar burier.
[18:47] <SpeedEvil> I have also wondered about a gravel tidying robot.
[18:48] <jopie> Sounds like a sunday afternoon project
[18:48] <SpeedEvil> add color recognition, and you can make pretty patterns
[18:50] <nxtec> jopie: remove your merge lists and then regenerate them
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[18:54] <Alezaru> gordonDrogon no just T° / H
[18:54] <Alezaru> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeuCpHKTlCQ
[18:54] <Alezaru> like that's
[18:56] <chris_99> you can easilly measure temp. with a ds18b20 sensor
[18:56] <chris_99> attached to the gpio
[18:58] <Alezaru> yeah i know
[18:58] <Alezaru> i just search existing projects about that
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[19:07] <jopie> My dmesg is looking like this - note the SD card errors. http://pastebin.com/djX8H4zh Wasn't having issues till I loaded a Raspbmc image today
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[19:10] <gordonDrogon> temp/humidity - trivial & cheap with the rht03 sensor
[19:11] <gordonDrogon> I'll be doing a writeup on that this week sometime. I did the code for it in wiringPi some time back.
[19:11] <gordonDrogon> or accurate and expensive with the sht15 sensor ...
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[19:12] <Alezaru> i would manage all equipment with webUI in py/node or php .. if i dont find some basic ui for start i will make mine .. ( im web developper )
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[19:13] <gordonDrogon> if you have a simple C progra, to dump data, the nyou can capture it with php/python/perl, bash, cgi, etc.
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[19:16] <Alezaru> im not C developper x)
[19:16] <Alezaru> but yes i understand
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[19:18] <Alezaru> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/tutorials/temperature/
[19:18] <Alezaru> i found that :)
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[19:19] <Alezaru> oh and that's ! http://www.yieldbuddy.com/
[19:19] <Alezaru> thats perfect
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[19:21] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/rht03.c
[19:21] <Alezaru> thx
[19:22] <Alezaru> lol 10 lines code nice ;)
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[19:31] <gordonDrogon> why should it be hard?
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[19:32] <gildean> Alezaru: i just made a full suite for temperature-sensing with ds18b20's
[19:32] <gildean> https://github.com/gildean/PiTherm
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[19:52] <Alezaru> thx gildean
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[19:59] <gildean> Alezaru: np, ask me if you have any questions, i tried to separate all the pieces into their own files, also all the static files are read to memory on startup, so it's easier to dev the frontend live in the browser, then save the files and restart the application
[19:59] <cmasta> Hey gildean
[19:59] <gildean> hey
[20:00] <cmasta> Im looking at yout suite of tempetature-sensing
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[20:00] <gildean> ok
[20:00] <cmasta> Im still a bit new to the hardware side of the pi, although im compiling kernels I have yet to dive into any real hardware. How would the temp sensors be wired.
[20:01] <cmasta> I would want three.
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[20:02] <cmasta> im assuming the server finds the sensors connected via gpio and map's them?
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[20:02] <gildean> i just installed the singlewire drivers (w1), then plugged in the sensors to a gpio-pin, 3.3v, ground and added a pull-down resistor between the data and current
[20:03] <gildean> in my app i made it so that i could add an arbitrary number of sensors by just setting their paths in the config.json
[20:03] <cmasta> nice, thats exactly what I needed to know.
[20:03] <cmasta> Thank you!
[20:03] <gildean> np
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[20:04] <cmasta> Great work BTW.
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[20:04] <gildean> thanks, it's still a bit unfinished tho'
[20:06] <gildean> i made a simple tcp-server for sending mail from json-strings, so i'll add a plugin for sending mail on alerts and i can reuse the same server for sending mail from multiple applications with ease
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[20:06] <cmasta> That sounds really nice.
[20:06] <cmasta> I will be checking up on your progress.
[20:07] <cmasta> Keep up the great work.
[20:07] <gildean> thanks, i'll try :)
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[20:15] <Alezaru> i love u gildean ;)
[20:15] <Alezaru> its node.js app
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[20:15] <Alezaru> its perfect for me
[20:15] <gildean> hah
[20:15] <gildean> also node seems to perform really well on the pi
[20:16] <Alezaru> yup
[20:16] <Alezaru> i would make subdomain for manage my grow
[20:16] <Alezaru> with node
[20:16] <Alezaru> so i will probably contribute to your project
[20:16] <gildean> here's a couple pictures of the device itself: http://ok.salaliitto.com/pitemp/
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[20:17] <gildean> atm using pretty short cables, i was thinking about building a small connector-box with rj-45 jacks and make longer cables for different kinds of sensors with rj-45s on the other end
[20:18] <Alezaru> wait second
[20:18] <Alezaru> i have picture
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[20:19] <Alezaru> notice because i dont show domain name ;)
[20:19] <Alezaru> but i will try to build similare "box"
[20:19] <Alezaru> sorry for my english ^^
[20:20] <Alezaru> im not good
[20:20] <limetree> what's everyone's experience running retroarch's NES core, performance wise?
[20:21] <limetree> i'm witnessing strange behaviour. it seems to run fine the first time i run the emulator, and then it's much worse
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[20:22] * ozzzy is not looking forward to compiling a new kernel
[20:23] <JakeSays> bah. just spent two days trying to get raspian softfp running so i can use mono.. only to discover Qt works with hardfp
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[20:25] <\\Mr_C\\> and one tried the camera module for a long period of time and does it hold up well with the tempersture ?
[20:26] <\\Mr_C\\> temperature
[20:30] <Firehopper> okay, anyone recommend what software to use to watch streaming video on a rpi? I use Quicktime on windows for such things
[20:32] <chithead> most htpc centric rpi distros use xbmc
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[20:37] <JakeSays> whats the name of the config script that runs when the pi is first started after os install?
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[20:38] <limetree> JakeSays: raspi-config I believe
[20:38] <limetree> assuming rasbian
[20:39] <JakeSays> limetree: that was it- thanks!
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[20:47] <NullMoogleCable> http://gyazo.com/35f335459a9b0eb744308f923a38bad3
[20:47] <NullMoogleCable> this made me lol
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[20:55] <sgerbino> does one have to remove serial port login when using USB serial communication on the pi?
[20:55] <Triffid_Hunter> no
[20:55] <Triffid_Hunter> you need to remove the serial port login if you want to use the rpi's built-in uart for something
[20:56] <Triffid_Hunter> otherwise both the login process and your process both try to read from the port, and each gets ~half the data
[20:57] <sgerbino> ok thats what i thought.. just checkin
[20:57] <pksato> USB serial dongle connected to USB ports on RPi?
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[20:57] <sgerbino> usb pi to arduino
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[20:58] <pksato> rpi usb to arduino usb?
[20:58] <sgerbino> yes
[20:58] <Triffid_Hunter> sgerbino: yeah serial login has absolutely nothing to do with that link at all
[20:58] <sgerbino> ok :|
[20:58] <pksato> In this case, not need to disable serial console. Serial console use SoC internal UART.
[20:58] <sgerbino> dead ends everywhere! :p
[20:58] <JakeSays> i upgraded my sd cards from class 4 to class 10 - much faster
[20:59] <Triffid_Hunter> sgerbino: strace have anything interesting?
[20:59] <sgerbino> it shows the call the write and then reads forever
[20:59] <sgerbino> so that seemed normal
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[21:00] <Triffid_Hunter> sgerbino: it writes then gets stuck reading? are you sure your firmware is returning some data?
[21:00] <sgerbino> it works when i use arduino IDE serial monitor perfectly
[21:00] <sgerbino> i need test$ and get test$ without flaw
[21:01] <sgerbino> erm i send*
[21:02] <sgerbino> theres always 0 bytes in pi serial buffer it seems
[21:04] <JakeSays> anybody here have experience using Qt5 on a pi?
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[21:16] <sgerbino> this is just bizarre
[21:17] <sgerbino> this code is bare minimum now of the problem, Arduino: http://pastebin.com/G86wKU5V, Minicom on Pi Output: http://pastebin.com/2prC2JsY, Python (NO OUTPUT?!?): http://pastebin.com/EZmygbHs
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[21:22] <gordonDrogon> sgerbino, can you read character at a time via the python serial stuff?
[21:24] <sgerbino> ill try that
[21:24] <sgerbino> the gordon? im trying to use your wiringPi lib :D
[21:25] <sgerbino> but using python for sake of simplicity
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[21:25] <jondot> hello all
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[21:26] <jondot> i'm building a sort of command center for the Pi which i'll open source during this week / the one after. anyone have requests about what kind of commands to include with the default setup?
[21:26] <jondot> examples i'm including is turning on/off XBMC, shutting own (power off)
[21:26] * sgerbino facepalm cause gordonDrogon identified my problem I think..
[21:27] <sgerbino> lol wow that was so stupid, ok now to use wiringPi and get that to work...
[21:27] <gordonDrogon> hi
[21:28] <sgerbino> wait a second i thought Serial.println adds the newline character on arduino .. mm
[21:28] <gordonDrogon> I'm sure the Python libraries have ways to do this though, but I've really not used them - ever.
[21:28] <gordonDrogon> back later though - gonig to veg. in-front of the box for a while!
[21:28] <sgerbino> reading 1 byte works
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[21:49] <NullMoogleCable> now here is an idea
[21:49] <NullMoogleCable> http://wtfmoogle.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/pibedrunk.jpg
[21:49] <NullMoogleCable> alcohol sensor for a pi :D
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[21:51] <whyz> hi, beginner question: i want to read a PIR sensor with the gpio ports on my pi. i know i should get the voltage down to 3v3, but what about the current? does it matter?
[21:51] <KameSense> hello, you guys know there is an issue with memory split ?
[21:52] <ShiftPlusOne> KameSense, when setting gpumem to 16?
[21:52] <ShiftPlusOne> whyz, remember that V=IR and the rest should make sense.
[21:52] <KameSense> setting to 16 : KiB Mem: 383752 total but setting to 32 : KiB Mem: 481288 total
[21:52] <KameSense> ShiftPlusOne: yes
[21:52] <ShiftPlusOne> KameSense, pastebin your config.txt I think you need to remove the lines which tell the firmware which start.elf file to load
[21:54] <SpeedEvil> whyz: ## electronics
[21:54] <KameSense> ShiftPlusOne: where is it ?
[21:54] <KameSense> (raspbian)
[21:54] <ShiftPlusOne> KameSense, /boot
[21:55] <KameSense> ShiftPlusOne: http://pastebin.com/jqNGP9nL
[21:55] <ShiftPlusOne> KameSense, change gpu_mem=16 and delete the lines underneath.
[21:56] <ShiftPlusOne> (then reboot)
[21:57] <KameSense> ShiftPlusOne: ok pi hosts my quasselcore, so I'll be back once it has rebooted :)
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[22:00] <ShiftPlusOne> KameSense, any luck?
[22:00] <KameSense> O_o
[22:00] <KameSense> worse
[22:00] <KameSense> KiB Mem: 237648 total
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[22:01] <KameSense> oh, my bad
[22:01] <ShiftPlusOne> Hmm... that's not what you want.... but at least we know one of those lines is the culprite
[22:01] <KameSense> rebooting again
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[22:02] <jondot> guys anyone care to offer some feedback?
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[22:03] * ShiftPlusOne pipes jondot output to his input.
[22:03] <jondot> ShiftPlusOne, you know what about ? :)
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[22:03] <KameSense> KiB Mem: 497544 total :D
[22:03] <ShiftPlusOne> I'll scroll up.
[22:03] <ShiftPlusOne> KameSense, what was the problem?
[22:04] <KameSense> forgot to comment the last line
[22:04] <KameSense> i read "the line* underneath"
[22:04] <ShiftPlusOne> jondot, nope, no feedback from me.
[22:04] <ShiftPlusOne> KameSense, ah ok, thanks. I wasn't sure if it would help, but I've seen it work for some people before, so thought I'd suggest it.
[22:05] <KameSense> ShiftPlusOne: thanks to you :D
[22:05] <ShiftPlusOne> np
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[22:13] <KameSense> pfoo: :)
[22:13] <pfoo> : )
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[22:38] <bigx> tada! https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/17657227/Info/piMinitel.JPG
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[22:39] <bigx> screen and keyboard is working
[22:39] <bigx> are
[22:39] <legov> where's the best place to pick up a rpi in the US? are the camera modules available to purchase now as well?
[22:39] <legov> is this a viable option, http://www.amazon.com/Raspberry-Pi-Model-Revision-512MB/dp/B009SQQF9C
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[22:39] <bertrik> bigx: minitel was some kind of french pre-web thing, right?
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[22:43] <bigx> bertrik yes it is
[22:43] <bigx> and now it's post web :)
[22:44] <bertrik> nice
[22:45] <bigx> here in france you find these minitels for like 10�(~12$/~8�)
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[23:05] <ozzzy> well... it's been a productive day
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[23:08] <FR^2> ozzzy: tell us :)
[23:09] <ozzzy> I have the Pi redirecting serial and usb devices wirelessly to my win7 laptop.... ready to start testing in the field with the telescope and cameras
[23:09] <KiltedPi> telescope!
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[23:09] <KiltedPi> sounds wicked
[23:09] <KiltedPi> How are you rotating it?
[23:10] <ozzzy> i has it's own onboard computer and closed-loop servo system.... I only need to be able to 'talk' to it
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[23:11] <KiltedPi> neat. What protocol are you using to network the stuff?
[23:11] <ozzzy> socat to talk to the serial ports... and usbip to redirect the usb devices
[23:11] <KiltedPi> and python?
[23:11] <ozzzy> nope
[23:11] <KiltedPi> Man, you need to post this on the forums, when you get it up
[23:12] <KiltedPi> People are dying to use telescopes
[23:12] <KiltedPi> with Pi
[23:12] <ozzzy> I know
[23:12] <KiltedPi> Its always a topic in this channel
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[23:12] <ozzzy> one of these days I'll haul the telescope mount downstairs (60lb) and hook it up
[23:13] <ozzzy> but... I've tested the serial stuff with other devices and it's worked fine
[23:13] <ozzzy> the mount speaks RS232 LOL
[23:13] <gordonDrogon> whyz, get a PIR sensor that runs at 3.3v and you'll be fine.
[23:13] <KiltedPi> RS232 should still work!
[23:13] <ozzzy> yep...
[23:13] <KiltedPi> I've got an old picture frame I'm hooking up eventually
[23:14] <KiltedPi> Wanna see what kind of fps i get
[23:14] <ozzzy> I've had some issues trying to connect remotely to a 12 year old guidescope controller... but I can run the software on the Pi in a dosbox running over ssh
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[23:14] <ozzzy> [shrug]
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[23:15] <KiltedPi> I discovered Xming
[23:15] <KiltedPi> recently
[23:16] <KiltedPi> So I plug my pi in-
[23:16] <KiltedPi> And if i open leafpad through SSH on the pi - as an example - it will boot up on my laptop
[23:16] <KiltedPi> That in itself astonishes me
[23:16] <KiltedPi> Its as if there is a wizard somewhere.
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[23:17] <ozzzy> xming works well
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[23:58] <devslash> has atone here set up nginx ?
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