#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-06-11

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[0:00] * Daniel00 (Daniel@5357E871.cm-6-8d.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined #raspberrypi
[0:00] <Daniel00> sup
[0:01] <shiftplusone> djshotglass, you're asking where to get them or recommendations for which to get?
[0:01] <djshotglass> both
[0:01] <Daniel00> so is it, or is it no possible to run windows on a raspberry pi?
[0:01] <shiftplusone> Daniel00, Short answer, no.
[0:02] <Daniel00> sucks
[0:02] <Daniel00> unless long answer is yes
[0:02] <Phosie> I always wonder why people ask that...
[0:02] <shiftplusone> I wonder why people think that sucks
[0:02] <Phosie> That too.
[0:02] <Phosie> I haven't used Windows in about a year.
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[0:03] <Daniel00> because they have programs that work only on windows they want to run
[0:03] <shiftplusone> djshotglass, It will depend on what you need them for. I suggest you search farnell/newark/element14 for what's available then go through datasheets to find what suits you.
[0:03] <Phosie> I'm sure they have a desktop or a laptop for that, just remember what performance the Pi has.
[0:03] <shiftplusone> Daniel00, it's a different CPU, x86 programs would not run anyway, even if something like windows CE would run on a pi.
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[0:04] <Daniel00> oi
[0:04] <Daniel00> ok
[0:05] <shiftplusone> You can use qemu to emulate an x86 system and runs windows if you like, but it won't be usable for anything and you're not going to get any help setting that up.
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[0:06] <ptl> Daniel00: I think you mistake the scope of the device. It's meant to be hacked, disassembled, reassembled, tinkered with. Windows is the opposite of that, you can't possible run Windows in a device that's unsupported by Microsoft, or even if you can, you will have lots of difficulties and will always lack the source code for stuff.
[0:06] <Phosie> I wonder if it's possible to use a 360 controller as an input for my stepper motor.
[0:06] <Bushmills> in short, windows is for consumers. raspberry pi isn'r
[0:06] <Bushmills> isn't
[0:06] <shiftplusone> Don't think the pi is meant to be diassembled, but yeah the jist of it is right.
[0:07] <Phosie> Press one button, motor goes clockwise, press another, motor goes anti-clockwise
[0:07] <ptl> shiftplusone: in a metaphoric way
[0:07] <pksato> Phosie: 360 controller? mean a encoder?
[0:07] <SpeedEvil> Yeah, it's so open you even have a datasheet that's a whole 3 pages.
[0:07] <Phosie> pksato: Xbox 360 controller.
[0:08] <pksato> Phosie: these are have support on Linux?
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[0:08] <Bushmills> broadcom surely has seen to it that everything is open :P
[0:08] <Phosie> They work with Linux.
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[0:09] <Phosie> I use one on Ubuntu, haven't tried it with a pi.
[0:09] <plugwash> Long answer on windows and the pi: the x86 versions of windows can be used in emulation but one would probablly be better off describing it as crawling than running. The new arm port of windows 8 is not being made generally available for end user installation, is gimped to heck and in any case it's CPU requirements are too high for the Pi. Windows CE could probablly be ported in theory if you got the right license from MS (there is a windows CE port
[0:09] <plugwash> for the beagleboard iirc) but I don't think anyone is working on it.
[0:09] <Bushmills> hehe "my mouse doesn't move at all" "patience - you didn't wait long enough"
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[0:10] <shiftplusone> SpeedEvil, Between the reverse engineered documentation, the schematics, ARM programmer's manuals, the BCM peripherals documentation and everything else that's out there, that's more documentation than 99% of the pi users would ever use.
[0:10] <pksato> Phosie: can be work on rpi.
[0:10] <ptl> beagleboard is Cortex-A8, armv7, RPi is armv6, Windows CE port would not be installable on the Pi
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[0:10] <shiftplusone> One of the redmond folks on the forum did say he'll see what he can do, but I don't think anything ever came from that.
[0:11] <Phosie> pksato: Do you have any idea how? I know they can be used with Raspbmc, but I don't know how to interface it with Python and GPIO.
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[0:11] <Phosie> Probably more effort than it's worth.
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[0:11] <SpeedEvil> shiftplusone: Fair point - it's deply annoying for some usecases though.
[0:11] <shiftplusone> Agreed
[0:11] <ShorTie> thats the theme for windows
[0:12] <SpeedEvil> shiftplusone: For example, if you want to use another camera. Or two cameras.
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[0:12] <ptl> Phosie: if the USB protocol it uses is nonstandard you'd have to reverse-engineer it...
[0:12] <pksato> Phosie: controler use bluetooth.
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[0:12] <Phosie> pksato: The wired one doesn't.
[0:12] <Phosie> It seems to much work, I'm not going to bother. Thanks anyway.
[0:13] <pksato> wired? Xbox have a wired controler? Its is retro.
[0:13] <ptl> if it works in ubuntu the driver/controller should also work in raspbian
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[0:13] <shiftplusone> http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/connect-your-xbox-360-controller-to-your-linux-gaming-rig/
[0:14] <shiftplusone> looks like it should work
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[0:14] <wolfram74> Is there some kind of centralized hub of raspberry pi projects? i thought i remembered reading that somewhere
[0:14] <plugwash> The xbox 360 has both wired and wireless controllers available. Which one you get in the box depends on what model you buy.
[0:14] <shiftplusone> wolfram74, the problem is there are too many centralised hubs
[0:15] <Phosie> It works out of the box with Ubuntu
[0:15] <wolfram74> bahaha
[0:15] <pksato> ah.. wired to controller receiver.
[0:15] <Phosie> thanks shiftplusone, going to look at it now
[0:15] <wolfram74> "12 frameworks? that's absurd, we should make 1 framework that's broad enough to cover everyone's case needs" :there are now 13 frameworks:
[0:15] <shiftplusone> exactly =D
[0:16] <ptl> lol
[0:16] <shiftplusone> (yay for the xkcd reference though)
[0:16] <Phosie> Hmm,nothing I didn't already know. I'll have to look up how to take gamepad inputs with python.
[0:16] <shiftplusone> wolfram74, I know of this http://elinux.org/RPi_Projects and pideas.co.uk (which isn't much yet)
[0:16] <wolfram74> also, why might geany give me the error "cannot open display"?
[0:17] <shiftplusone> wolfram74, because you're trying to launch it in an ssh session,
[0:17] <shiftplusone> it's a gui text editor as well
[0:17] <wolfram74> nope, i've got my pi a dedicated monitor at the moment
[0:17] <shiftplusone> running X?
[0:17] <wolfram74> i'm gonna ssh into when it's plugged into my router
[0:17] <wolfram74> not yet
[0:17] <shiftplusone> start x, then try geany
[0:18] <Phosie> There's your problem
[0:18] <wolfram74> yeah, i just entered startx
[0:18] <Phosie> you could also ssh with x forwarding
[0:18] <pksato> wolfram74: you is on non display exported shell.
[0:18] <shiftplusone> Keep in mind you can use X forwarding or VNC just fine
[0:18] <wolfram74> oh, the pi store is a thing
[0:18] <shiftplusone> for software, yeah.
[0:19] <shiftplusone> I thought you meant hardware projects, my mistake.
[0:19] <pksato> sudo or su can not export display as default.
[0:20] <Grievre> [15:18:07] <shiftplusone> Keep in mind you can use X forwarding or VNC just fine
[0:20] <Grievre> I'm trying to think of how and why you would combine these two things
[0:20] <Grievre> oh "or"
[0:20] <Grievre> not "for"
[0:21] <Grievre> http://boc.coon.pw/
[0:21] <shiftplusone> heh
[0:21] <Grievre> oops
[0:21] <Grievre> mispaste
[0:21] <Phosie> Just need to wait for the postie with my powered hub then I can try this xbox controller thingie
[0:21] * shiftplusone clicks anyway and wonders what he's watching
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[0:24] <JaceP> anyone worked with USB webcams attached to a rpi/
[0:24] * shiftplusone looks at rikkib
[0:24] <Phosie> JaceP: I have.
[0:24] <shiftplusone> I haven't, but plenty of people have, yeah.
[0:25] <Phosie> Terrible webcam, but it worked.
[0:26] <JaceP> Phosie: i'm interested in hooking up several (5 to 10) and pulling frames from all of them. low resolution (320x240 or so), 10fps is fine. i'm trying to choose a microcontroller platform.
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[0:26] <JaceP> at this point i'm thinking rpi or maybe going up to something like the APC Rock
[0:26] <Phosie> I'm out of my depth already.
[0:26] <JaceP> lol ok
[0:26] <shiftplusone> JaceP, would that be 5 to 10 cams per pi or 1 pi per cam?
[0:26] <JaceP> 5 to 10 per pi
[0:27] <Phosie> Sorry :P
[0:27] <JaceP> no problem, and thanks :D
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[0:27] <shiftplusone> I don't see that working out, but don't know for sure.
[0:27] <JaceP> as i understand it the rpi can only handle one dedicated camera, but could of course handle more than one if they were usb
[0:28] <Phosie> Power might be an issue.
[0:29] <pksato> and usb hub stack.
[0:29] <JaceP> i can do external power through a powered usb hub
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[0:32] <JaceP> the biggest issue i have is available RAM. i dont need to record the frames, just do a quick analysis on each one. most microcontrollers can't handle the memory usage but the rpi can. i just wonder if it can handle the usb throughput and such.
[0:32] <Phosie> You've inspired me to get my webcam set up on my pi again, it's 11:30pm but who needs sleep anyway.
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[0:35] <aaa801> Mods are asleep, post arduino's
[0:35] <aaa801> :P
[0:35] <shiftplusone> D=
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[0:38] <aaa801> lol
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[0:47] * plugwash eyes up the wandboard quad
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[0:47] <plugwash> 2GB of ram, sata and only £97.48 (+VAT)
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[0:48] <Phosie> Corrupted card...yay
[0:48] <Phosie> Starting to get sick of it.
[0:48] <shiftplusone> Phosie, congratulations!
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[0:49] <shiftplusone> Phosie, just wondering, are you sure you are getting 5v, what class card is it and are you overclocking?
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[0:50] <Phosie> Cheap class 4 and I'm overclocking
[0:50] <Phosie> that's probably the issue
[0:50] <shiftplusone> Have you tried different card brands?
[0:51] <Phosie> I havent.
[0:51] <Phosie> I don't mind so much reflashing the card, it's the fact I have barely any room on my netbook for the iso
[0:51] <shiftplusone> I wonder if the people who experience corrupted sd cards do so because their cards are bad or because their pis are bad =/
[0:52] <Phosie> Probably the card, I didn't used to have issues.
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[0:52] <Phosie> This will be my third reflash in a month or two.
[0:53] <shiftplusone> hm
[0:53] <ShadowJK> did you use to overclock?
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[0:54] <Phosie> I did, don't think it was as much though.
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[0:54] <Phosie> It seems to happen whenever I go to install something, otherwise I'm fine.
[0:55] <ShadowJK> that does sounds like a card issue :/
[0:55] <Phosie> Probably, oh well.
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[0:55] <Phosie> Sick of spending money on the pi for now, so wont bother buying a new card till it totally craps out on me.
[0:56] <shiftplusone> sounds like a plan
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[1:06] <Phosie> back in a few
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[1:25] <Grievre> Honestly I think one of the biggest selling points of the beaglebone black is that it comes with onboard flash with linux pre-installed
[1:25] <Grievre> plus the whole ethernet-over-USB thing
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[1:29] <plugwash> personally I think one of the biggest down points of the beaglebone black is that by default they load it up with some embedded distro
[1:29] <plugwash> IMO if a device has that much storage there is no reason not to have a proper linux distro on it
[1:30] <SpeedEvil> speed.
[1:31] <plugwash> are embedded distros really all that much faster than a well set up debian system?
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[1:36] <Burninate> I'm trying to figure out how USB 3.0 backwards compatibility works. Is it possible for a computer-connected USB 3.0 hub with 10 ports to host 10x USB 2.0 devices at 480Mb/s each through the computer's single USB 3.0 5Gb/s jack? Assume an externally powered hub.
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[1:36] <Burninate> I ask here because you guys are good with managing USB bandwidth :)
[1:37] <plugwash> no
[1:38] <plugwash> AIUI USB3 hubs are really two hubs in one box, a high/full/low speed hub and a superspeed hub
[1:38] <Burninate> why?
[1:38] <Burninate> so the high/full/low does *not* get recoded onto the superspeed bus?
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[1:38] <plugwash> that is my understanding yes
[1:39] <Burninate> they're using parallel wires for the final hub->computer jump?
[1:39] <Burninate> running completely different protocols
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[1:39] <Burninate> okay, thank you plugwash
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[1:40] <plugwash> that is my understanding yes
[1:40] <plugwash> superspeed cables contain seperate wires for full/low/high speed and superspeed
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[1:53] <Phosie> My pi hates me tonight. :P
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[1:55] <histo> It has feelings?
[1:55] <Phosie> It must do.
[1:56] <Phosie> I can't connect to my motion stream for some reason
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[1:58] <Phosie> fixed
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[2:06] <ozzzy> I love the way that C will happily compile and not throw any errors even though you've told it to do stupid things
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[2:11] <ShadowJK> try -std=c99 -Wall
[2:11] <plugwash> I belive the saynig is "C treats you like a consenting adult, pascal treats you like a naughty child and ada treats you like a criminal"
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[2:20] <ozzzy> and MS Quick C makes you go 'wtf?'
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[2:21] <ozzzy> http://www.togastro.com/ozzzy/images/rpi-iv1.png <-- the project comes to fruition
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[2:28] <xbskid> Does anyone have a lead on a water- or weather-resistant case for the pi, that either comes with or can be modified to include a mount for the camera module?
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[3:18] <xbskid> I must be in the wrong time zone :P
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[3:35] <IT_Sean> clear
[3:35] <xbskid> Still dead.
[3:38] <DrkCodeman> is the raspberry pi capable of running snes games and sega games?
[3:38] <xbskid> SNES, yes. And which Sega console?
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[3:39] <DrkCodeman> genisis
[3:40] <DrkCodeman> i mean efficiently
[3:40] <xbskid> Probably.
[3:40] <DrkCodeman> i know it can't handle 64
[3:40] <xbskid> I bet the UDOO or Parallela could handle N64 emulation.
[3:41] <DrkCodeman> i can get it to run natively just the hardware i don't think can handle it that well
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[3:42] <ozzzy> betcha you could get an N64 for 5 bux at a flea market
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[4:15] <Wolfram74> is there a dedicated light for "insufficient power"
[4:15] <Wolfram74> ?
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[4:17] <shiftplusone> no
[4:18] <Wolfram74> huh, weird
[4:18] <Wolfram74> oh well
[4:18] <shiftplusone> If there is insufficient power, the last thing you'd want to do is waste whatever power there is to light an LED D=
[4:20] <Wolfram74> yaaaay
[4:20] <Wolfram74> but still kind of odd, that in that one usb port, the led's would light up, but the router wouldn't recognize it
[4:21] <Wolfram74> but i've got it on the network now
[4:21] <Wolfram74> now to install a mumble server
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[4:25] <Wolfram74> querry: does raspbian ship with root having a password?
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[4:26] <Wolfram74> it never seems to prompt me with a password when i use sudo
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[4:26] <shiftplusone> there is no pre-set password and sudo is configured not to ask for one
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[4:37] <gxx> Can someone explain why you need to buy codecs? Is this for everyone who wants to use them or for people outside the US?
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[4:38] <pksato> gxx: to play dvd and watch DVB1.
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[4:40] <RedPanda> hi
[4:40] <RedPanda> ?
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[4:41] <gxx> I'm getting two pi's & wondering if I could setup one as the http server w/ iso & use the other one to diskless boot over lan, is this something that the pi's can support?
[4:42] <pksato> lots of people use RPi as webserver, static and dinamic content.
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[4:42] <pksato> RPi cant boot from network as PXE.
[4:43] <gxx> okay thats good, whats the best distro to use with them?
[4:43] <pksato> any.
[4:44] <gxx> mainly be using them for playing around with networking stuff, and not sure with one to pick
[4:44] <pksato> but, rootfs can be remote mounted.
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[4:48] <xbskid> gxx: You don't have to pay for h.264; that's rolled into the price of the Pi.
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[4:48] <xbskid> Also, hardware h264 encoder.
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[4:52] <RedPanda> hii. what is a good and lightweight vnc cliente
[4:53] <gxx> I've used live usb/cds before, however I don't completely understand how the file system on it is going to be like with an sd card
[4:53] <RedPanda> or opennx client for the pi?
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[4:53] <gxx> is it going to be just like a live usb stick? or like a more hdd file system?
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[4:55] <pksato> gxx: more like a live usb stick.
[4:56] <gxx> so pretty much if I make any changes then reboot & wont save it?
[4:56] <pksato> gxx: RPi dont have a eeprom to store firmware. firmwares are loaded from SD card.
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[4:57] <RedPanda> guys. a good vnc client for th pi?
[4:57] <pksato> all changes are write to sd.
[4:58] <gxx> okay, so system changes are saved, okay
[4:58] <JakeSays> RedPanda: are you remoting to or from the pi?
[4:59] <Grievre> pksato: Er, where is the bootloader that reads from the SD card stored then?
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[5:00] <RedPanda> JakeSays: i wnat my main pc to run vnc server and use the pi as a client of my main pc
[5:00] <RedPanda> JakeSays: so i want a client
[5:00] <JakeSays> oh hmm. not sure - never used a vnc client on linux
[5:01] <xbskid> Anyone know where I can get a weather-resistant Pi case with a camera mount?
[5:01] <pksato> Grievre: ?
[5:02] <pksato> Have a small rom on SoC to load firmware from SD, or other memory device.
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[5:04] <RedPanda> i have to go. thanks any ways guys
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[5:13] <JakeSays> xbskid: a hefty bag and duct tape :p
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[5:17] <xbskid> JakeSays: The camera would be wasted.
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[5:17] <xbskid> Not to mention mounting that pile of crap would be a PITA.
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[5:18] <Grievre> pksato: Oh is it a mask rom? I was under the impression it was programmmable
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[5:19] <pksato> Is not die mask. I dont know if is rewritable.
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[5:48] <myth> https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/tree/rpi-3.8.y There is a 3.8 kernel for the raspberry pi.
[5:48] <myth> Never knew this.
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[6:03] <nides80> probably a simple question.. sometimes when I ssh, I type too fast and mispell my username which in turn asks for a password for a user that doesn't exsist... is there an easier way to correct this other then closing the putty window and connecting again?
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[6:04] <Milos> nides80, right-click on the top bar, restart session
[6:05] <nides80> Milos, Thanks!
[6:05] <Milos> :)
[6:05] <Milos> nides80, whoops I meant 'duplicate session'
[6:06] <nides80> Milos, never knew there were options right clicking.. thanks. makes it alot easier.
[6:07] <Milos> :)
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[6:07] <Milos> you're welcome
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[6:23] <shiftplusone> nides80, you can also set the username in the settings so that it only asks for the password.
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[7:07] <nerdboy> yo
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[7:12] <chainey> nerdboy, you mentioned the other day you are using marine batteries for your field equip. are you chargin w/ solar and have u had any need to shield it from the sunlight?
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[7:13] <nerdboy> this was back in grad school, but yeah, we usually kept that stuff in a tent and charged the batteries with a generator
[7:14] <nerdboy> the ncar guys had an automated surface station with one (big) battery and a solar panel
[7:15] <chainey> i'm looking at some deep cycle marines, weighing pro/cons vs lith ion
[7:15] <chainey> ok, good to know. ty
[7:16] <nerdboy> back then almost everything was lead acid....
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[7:16] <nerdboy> unless it could run off a few alkalines
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[7:19] <chainey> w/ the prices of anything over 40ah, we might as well still only have lead acids
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[8:41] <Danith> how come GRUB doesn't work with raspberry?
[8:41] <Danith> is it because instead of a BIOS it has the GPU start the boot sequence?
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[8:46] <gordonDrogon> Yes.
[8:46] <Danith> are all ARM devices like that?
[8:46] <Danith> special bootloader?
[8:46] <gordonDrogon> No idea.
[8:47] <Danith> would be so nice if I could compile a kernel normally, put it in grub.conf and boot it up
[8:47] <gordonDrogon> would it?
[8:47] <Danith> for me
[8:47] <Danith> :p
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[8:48] <gordonDrogon> there is a uboot for the Pi I think.
[8:48] <Danith> i looked at that and it didn't seem exactly like.. uhh.. a bootloader really
[8:51] <ShorTie> bootberry is a good boot loader
[8:51] <gordonDrogon> I switch SD cards. Or used to. Don't bother booting anything else now.
[8:51] <Danith> what do you use now?
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[8:55] <Danith> meh
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[8:56] <Danith> I have a bunch of dead drives, I wonder if I can make the rpi controller the motor
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[8:56] <nerdboy> Danith: you can compile a kernel image for u-boot
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[8:56] <nerdboy> you just need the mkimage tool
[8:57] <Danith> ya, I guess I'm saying I wish I could just do 'make && make modules install' and move the image to /boot and change a config file to boot it up
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[8:59] <nerdboy> you can do pretty much exactly that but you don't need to change the config file...
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[9:00] <nerdboy> if you change a u-boot script, you need to recompile it
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[9:01] <nerdboy> in this case you could change the symlink if you want to keep the old kernel
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[9:02] <nerdboy> if you're on debian then you could actually build/package the lernel and install it with dpkg
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[9:03] <nerdboy> i guess i'm used to doing (mostly) manual kernel and initramfs builds on gentoo so it doesn't seem that much different to me...
[9:05] <Danith> I use gentoo \o/
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[9:07] <gordonDrogon> sorry - had to go & sort the bins out - heard the bin lorry coming down the street - esarly today!
[9:07] <gordonDrogon> I use raspbian.
[9:09] <gordonDrogon> it's a soggy day here )-: My chickens are unimpressed.
[9:12] <nid0> bright sunshine here :>
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[9:14] <rikkib> 7 deg C out 14 inside
[9:14] <nerdboy> Danith: tried gentoo on the pi yet?
[9:14] <Danith> no
[9:14] <nerdboy> it's a little slow, but you can always make a pi cluster...
[9:15] <Danith> I tried setting up cross compile between 2 different gentoo boxes before and it didn't work so wary of doing that on pi :p
[9:15] <nerdboy> *slow to compile certain things...
[9:15] <Danith> ya, I compiled a new kernel (that didn't work) and it took like 8 hours
[9:15] <ShorTie> can you compile gcc in gentoo on a rPi ??
[9:15] <nid0> I still think there's something wrong there for it to take twice as long as normal, are you using like a class 2 sd or something?
[9:16] <rikkib> I have two debian boxes I cross compile on.
[9:16] <Danith> me?
[9:16] <nerdboy> you can start with a small image and use crossdev for most of it
[9:16] <rikkib> 1 for the RPi and one for the stm32v
[9:16] <Danith> it was the .config from the raspberrian dist and all the modules so ::|
[9:16] <Danith> I didn't feel like tweaking it :p
[9:16] <nerdboy> ShorTie: yes but it takes a while...
[9:17] <nid0> Danith: yeah, and as a ballpark that should be 4 hours :P
[9:17] <ShorTie> ya, like a day
[9:17] <Danith> shrug
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[9:18] <ShorTie> but now i can't compile anything else, says no compiler found or something .. :/~
[9:18] <Danith> kernel didn't boot anyways. it initialized the graphics (rainbow colors on screen) and just stayed there
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[9:19] <nerdboy> i have a config on my gentoo card if you want it
[9:19] <ShorTie> no biggy, nothing on it, revdep-rebuild may not be a friend anymore, lol.
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[9:19] <nerdboy> been using yocto lately so i haven't messed with it recently
[9:20] <Danith> no, doing the config is the best part!
[9:21] <rikkib> ShorTie, What are you wanting to do. Cross compile on gentoo for the RPi?
[9:22] <ShorTie> i was just -auvDn @world, and it said to run revdep-rebuild
[9:23] <ShorTie> and when i ran it it messed up gcc
[9:24] <rikkib> type which gcc
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[9:24] <Danith> eselect <something> <something>
[9:24] <ShorTie> give me a second to boot it
[9:24] <Danith> your gcc was probably updated
[9:25] <ShorTie> nop, just recompiled with different flags
[9:26] <Danith> eh I guess I'll try to get gentoo installed :v
[9:27] <ShorTie> which gcc = /usr/bin/gcc
[9:27] <rikkib> Ahhh I think I know
[9:27] <rikkib> You set env variables
[9:27] <ShorTie> Danith, i used a dd image off of the gentoo wiki
[9:28] <ShorTie> made it quick and painless
[9:28] <Danith> oh, that would make it easy
[9:28] <Danith> I wish my main computer had a SD card reader though
[9:28] <Danith> sometimes
[9:29] <ShorTie> i got a usb reader and a 8 gig class 10 sd card for like 8 bucks from newegg
[9:30] <Danith> do the GPIO pins work in gentoo?
[9:30] <gordonDrogon> yes.
[9:30] <Danith> I have a class 10 16gb card just sitting here
[9:30] <ShorTie> my reader couldn't handle class 10 cards, so it worked out preaty good
[9:30] <Danith> o dear
[9:30] <Danith> hopefully my laptop can
[9:30] <gordonDrogon> you need a writer that can write the image to it thought :)
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[9:32] <Danith> dont suppose anyone has a .config for a virtualbox :v
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[9:32] <ShorTie> w32diskimager worked preaty good
[9:32] <Danith> ya, thats what I use
[9:32] <Danith> but I want to get a virtualbox gentoo dist up for the cross compiling
[9:33] <Danith> I could turn on my stand alone server but I think I'm going to retire it :<
[9:34] <Danith> I have so much computer junk laying around :|
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[9:35] <Danith> anyone want 3 CRT monitors? :v
[9:36] <rikkib> 185 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
[9:36] <rikkib> Need to get 256 MB of archives.
[9:36] <ShorTie> i've been googling but can't find anything interesting, anyone know of a rc oscillator frequency calculator ??
[9:37] <rikkib> Think it has been a while
[9:37] <ShorTie> i think i need 660mhz, and trying to figure a setup for it
[9:38] <ShorTie> those are hazardous waste now Danith
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[9:39] <Danith> L}
[9:39] <Danith> :|
[9:40] <Danith> One of these days I should drag them down to the place where people leave there stuff for other people to take
[9:40] <ShorTie> how big are they ??
[9:41] <ShorTie> i can get rid of anything in a garbage bag
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[9:41] <ShorTie> so put it in first, pile a bunch of other stuff around it and it's gone, lol.
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[9:42] <rikkib> Fetched 256 MB in 4min 35s (928 kB/s)
[9:43] <Danith> ones 17", ones 20" and ones 22" (which is like 70lbs)
[9:43] <nid0> if the 22" is a decent one, you could probably offload it onto some keen gamer or other
[9:43] <ShorTie> oh, biggies .. :/~
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[9:43] <nid0> there're a whole ton of people who still swear by decent crt screens, and for good reasons
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[9:44] <Danith> people would probably snatch them up if I put them by the garbage room
[9:44] <Danith> especially if I put notes on them saying they work
[9:44] <gordonDrogon> I couldn't give away a CRT last time I tried. Had to take it to the tip - where it joined a pallet load of others.
[9:45] <Danith> well, I would move them to the place at night so no one would see who's they were :V
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[9:45] <rikkib> I took pictures of stacks of old crt monitors
[9:45] <rikkib> today
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[9:45] <rikkib> mac and pc
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[9:46] <nid0> if theyre big, higher than 1080 res, ideally flatscreen, then theyll often go quite well
[9:46] <Danith> not many CRT monitors were higher then 1080
[9:46] <nid0> uh
[9:46] <nid0> practically any not awful crt screen 22" or bigger is over 1080
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[9:47] <Danith> how many people did you know wiht 22" CRT monitors
[9:47] <Danith> things are gigantic
[9:47] <nid0> lots, and thats the kind of size screen that people are still interested in these days, precisely because theyre high res
[9:47] <Danith> you're crazy
[9:47] <Danith> :p
[9:47] <ShorTie> gotta have your desk 3' from the wall for something like that
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[9:48] <nid0> and fwiw I loved my 24" WQXGA dell
[9:48] <Danith> ya, my 22" or 23" whatever is like over a foot from front to back
[9:49] <rikkib> E-Waste
[9:49] <Danith> now I got the image downloaded I don't want to go through the efforet of burning it and setting it up :(
[9:49] <nid0> http://imgur.com/U5QFC0e - thats what my ollllld desk looked like
[9:50] <nid0> circa 2007
[9:51] <rikkib> My desk does look as tidy as that
[9:51] <rikkib> does not
[9:54] <nid0> no, mine does also have rather a lot of junk on it
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[9:54] <nid0> its about the size of an aircraft carrier deck though so is just a handy place to put stuff :<
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[9:59] <rikkib> My desk has 2 lcd's, kvm, 4 PC next to it, laptop, 3 RPi, 3 stm32, and other stuff
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[10:00] <rikkib> Logging PC behind me for my Ham radio
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[10:00] <Danith> i need to cut back
[10:01] <Danith> I have a q6600 esxi server, pentium 805d gentoo server, some other full size something.. that I all turned off
[10:02] <Danith> just too many computers.. plus a 900mhz laptop, a asus eeepc 700 thingie, another asus laptop, a older gateway laptop
[10:02] <Danith> ... :|
[10:02] <Danith> if I had a house I would have room for everything :v
[10:05] <Danith> hey isn't that metorer shower thing happening in 30 mins?
[10:05] <rikkib> I have 6mx9m garage, gives me a 3x6 workshop on the back
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[10:06] <Danith> i have a 1 bedroom apartment which gives me an obstacle course :p
[10:07] <rikkib> Been there and had a two room at first then had to sell all me collection
[10:07] <rikkib> ham radio, electronics
[10:08] <Danith> ya, I would sell it but I don't like the dealing with people part
[10:08] <rikkib> Eventually I started working for myself then that stuff made me money to buy new toys.
[10:09] <Danith> http://www.space.com/21510-delphinids-meteor-shower-tomorrow.html?cmpid=514648
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[10:11] <psiklops> Hi. Why is mplayer not supported by Raspberry Pi ?
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[10:14] <Danith> i thought it was
[10:14] <Coffe> why is mplayer not supporting raspberry i guess is the question
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[10:15] <Danith> specialized hardware, no one has decided to take the task?
[10:16] <geordie> i like that he parted before anyone had a chance to respond
[10:17] <geordie> rhetoric at its finest
[10:17] <Danith> oh lol, I didn't notice
[10:19] <Danith> im going to see if I can see metors
[10:21] <geordie> cool
[10:22] <geordie> first i've heard of it
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[10:32] <chainey> me too
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[10:35] <Tickle> Hello, I recently attached an NFS drive to my Pi and its got a lot of movies in the shared drive. The RPi is loading the NFS folder slowly is this normal?
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[10:35] <SpeedEvil> 'loading the folder' ?
[10:35] <gordonDrogon> the weather will probably stop me seeing the delphinids )-:
[10:35] <SpeedEvil> las ?
[10:36] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: easy solution.
[10:36] <Tickle> Yes, when I go to the mounted folder it shows the hourglass
[10:36] <gordonDrogon> SpeedEvil, yea, move :)
[10:36] <Danith> from the shell?
[10:36] <SpeedEvil> http://home.gci.net/~delphinium/display.html
[10:37] <Danith> it's possible what ever file browser your using is generating thumbnails :|
[10:37] <Danith> get/run iotop?
[10:38] <gordonDrogon> actually, prob. won't see them from the UK anyway.
[10:38] <gordonDrogon> SpeedEvil, haha..
[10:38] <Tickle> No from the final browser, and yes they are .mov files
[10:38] <SpeedEvil> I'm in Scotland - I basically can't see the stars at this time of year.
[10:38] <SpeedEvil> I do however have a really nice set of delphinids :)
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[10:39] <Tickle> Oh, permissions. I think I fixed it
[10:39] <Danith> see if looking at the directory from the console is faster?
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[10:47] <gordonDrogon> SpeedEvil, I'm from Scotland - way back.. Now been out of the country for as long a I lived there..
[10:47] * SpeedEvil found his mirror blank.
[10:48] * SpeedEvil needs to work out some means of grinding it.
[10:48] <Danith> use your tongue
[10:48] * SpeedEvil ponders a barrel of pi.
[10:48] <gordonDrogon> lemon pi?
[10:49] <SpeedEvil> The process of figuring a mirror can sometimes be referred to as walking around the barrel
[10:49] <SpeedEvil> As that was how it was done
[10:50] <SpeedEvil> http://www.dv-fansler.com/Astronomy/mirror_making_machine.htm
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[10:56] <Danith> i dont get it
[10:56] <SpeedEvil> It wasn't very amusing.
[10:56] <gordonDrogon> on a website out of the early 90's too.
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[10:58] <chainey> SpeedEvil, cool link
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[11:17] <Danith> what to do
[11:17] <Danith> what to do
[11:20] <gordonDrogon> what do you want to do?
[11:21] <Danith> be happy
[11:22] <gordonDrogon> what's stopping you?
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[11:22] <Danith> being depressed
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[11:22] <gordonDrogon> find the cause and rectify it.
[11:24] <Danith> it's me
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[11:25] <ShorTie> just need to find sumfin to do
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[11:40] <histo> play with pi
[11:42] <gordonDrogon> or make a pie.
[11:44] <histo> Mine should be in today. First project mame gaming rig.
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[12:10] <gr8> hi. would a RBP with an external sound card be good for a hifi music listening station? or could there be problems?
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[12:13] <gordonDrogon> it should be as good as any PC with a USB sound dongle...
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[12:15] <Bushmills> gr8, yes, works well.
[12:16] <linuxstb> gr8: If you can use the HDMI output, you don't even an external sound card.
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[12:17] <gr8> ok thanks
[12:17] <linuxstb> gr8: You may want to browse http://www.raspyfi.com/
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[12:18] <gr8> nice!
[12:19] <Bushmills> i'm using this device: http://dx.com/p/external-5-1-channel-usb-2-0-sound-card-optical-audio-adapter-black-41289.
[12:20] <Bushmills> cheap but ok
[12:21] <gr8> the raspberry supports playing HD video as well, right?
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[12:22] <Bushmills> it does, but is a bit picky what player to use
[12:23] <gr8> oh and what about processing power? ... my hard disks are encrypted with AES-256
[12:24] <Jck_true> Where is the decoding taking place?
[12:24] <Jck_true> decryption*
[12:24] <gr8> on the CPU
[12:25] <Jck_true> That might give you trouble - If you plan on decoding high resolution video
[12:25] <gr8> what about music (FLAC)?
[12:26] <gr8> could be problems as well, I guess
[12:26] <Jck_true> Suppose it depends on the bitrate
[12:26] <gr8> thats not good :D
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[12:29] <Bushmills> cpu power is where the raspberry trails behind desktop machines
[12:30] <Bushmills> decoding should be ok, that's usually not that cpu intense
[12:31] <Bushmills> i think mine shows about 15 to 20 % cpu load playing ogg and mp3 through usb
[12:31] <Bushmills> using mpd
[12:32] <Bushmills> but i'm not sure whether it runs on full speed with that load
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[12:37] <daveaway> sounds like a lot of cpu
[12:37] <daveaway> not that i know
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[12:38] <daveaway> is that down to the decoding itself?
[12:39] <Bushmills> as it's running a dynamic governor, chances are that this load is with 200 MHz clock
[12:39] <daveaway> just curious for the audio thing i want to do
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[12:40] <daveaway> ill be workin with .wavs so it wont be an issue i guess
[12:41] <daveaway> still.. havent completed the first tutorial though..
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[12:41] <daveaway> hahahah
[12:41] <gordonDrogon> oh, it's "that guy" again :)
[12:42] <daveaway> i know right?
[12:42] <daveaway> he needs to just sort it out
[12:42] <gordonDrogon> why not learn C first?
[12:42] <daveaway> i can write c
[12:43] <daveaway> one second phone
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[12:46] <ItsMeLenny> could one get composite output through the io pins?
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[12:48] <Bushmills> some pins are unconnected - i suppose you an, with a small soldering job
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[12:55] <steve_rox> composite thu gpio?
[12:56] <daveaway> yeah, i can write C, but i've never compiled a kernel.img before, ill just use eclipse
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[12:57] <ItsMeLenny> steve_rox, i guess in a similar way to arduino video out
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[12:58] <steve_rox> im not sure how it works , ive never had a arduino
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[13:01] <steve_rox> now i have to figure out something cool to do with rpi cam
[13:01] <ant_thomas> Are the cameras actually available anywhere currently?
[13:02] <steve_rox> im not sure i think its back order
[13:02] <steve_rox> i was lucky to get one i guess
[13:02] <ant_thomas> backordered with who?
[13:02] <KidBeta> has anyone turned there Rpi into a radio scanner yet? im looking for something in the 20-500/600mhz range
[13:02] <steve_rox> well i got mine from RS
[13:02] <steve_rox> radio scanner? fun
[13:03] <steve_rox> i used mine as a law breaking fm transmitter but thats as far as i went
[13:03] <KidBeta> i just wanna listen
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[13:04] <steve_rox> would be interesting to have a radio scanner
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[13:05] <KidBeta> yeah
[13:05] <KidBeta> im
[13:05] <KidBeta> more interested in doing some vaguely TEMPEST Stuff
[13:06] <steve_rox> fun :-)
[13:06] <ItsMeLenny> steve_rox, http://playground.arduino.cc/Main/TVout incase you are interested
[13:06] <KidBeta> using purposely unshielded USB cables
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[13:08] <KidBeta> no idea if itll work but its worth a stab imo :)
[13:09] <steve_rox> long as it dont break anythin
[13:09] <KidBeta> it shouldnt
[13:10] <steve_rox> wondering at the moment if i should hack up a old usb keyboard to use its pcb as someting to control the rpi
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[13:11] <BonaC> Okay, now i's working.
[13:11] <BonaC> Hi!
[13:11] <steve_rox> hello
[13:11] <BonaC> Any ideas if Xbian doesn't support wifi dongles properly?
[13:11] <steve_rox> erm not really
[13:11] <BonaC> I tried Raspbian, which did support my A-Link dongle
[13:12] <BonaC> Hmm
[13:12] <BonaC> Do I need some packages to enable the thing to understand wifi?
[13:13] <BonaC> Since Raspbian did understand my dongle straight away, I suppose when Xbian is also Debian based, there should be a way to do it.
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[13:14] <BonaC> It's also odd that Xbian does find my wifi
[13:15] <BonaC> But it seems that it doesn't know what to do with the password I give it.
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[13:21] <alex285> hello guys
[13:22] <alex285> I am trying to add a second input source in LXDE/openbox
[13:22] <alex285> in default debian PI installation
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[13:22] <alex285> can you enlighten me please?
[13:23] <BonaC> I personally have no clue what you even meant.
[13:23] <steve_rox> same here
[13:23] <steve_rox> maybe means a second keyboard?
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[13:24] <BonaC> Or a mouse.
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[13:24] <steve_rox> ironicly someone named close to cheese joins when we say mouse
[13:24] <steve_rox> werid
[13:25] <BonaC> At least it did something
[13:25] <BonaC> Always a result
[13:25] <BonaC> So Xbian just doesn't want to connect, it finds the networks beautifully though
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[13:26] <BonaC> Maybe SSH again?
[13:26] <steve_rox> wifi eh?
[13:26] <BonaC> Yes.
[13:27] <steve_rox> when i try connect i get permission denied etc
[13:27] <alex285> I mean a second input source
[13:27] <BonaC> As in?
[13:27] <alex285> actually I want to add Greeks
[13:27] <BonaC> So you mean languages and keyboard layouts?
[13:27] <alex285> and swap input sources with alt+shift etc ..
[13:27] <alex285> not keyboard layout just the input source
[13:28] <alex285> I mean I have the standard keyboard 105 layo0ut
[13:28] <steve_rox> i had to connect my rpi to wifi useing super user cmd
[13:28] <BonaC> Steve: Do tell me too
[13:28] <alex285> I add the greek language as the default language in LXDE
[13:28] <BonaC> Isn't it just by connecting via SSH and go to the languages?
[13:28] <alex285> but I cant find a way to write greel
[13:29] <alex285> BonaC, go to the languages?
[13:29] <alex285> greel=greek
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[13:29] <BonaC> Ah, sorry, I forgot you had Raspbian on yours.
[13:30] <BonaC> I couldn't get XBMC working on it so I switched over to Xbian
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[13:30] <alex285> can please someone point me in docs, cause I can't even find docs how to do this
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[13:31] <BonaC> Hmm
[13:31] <BonaC> Do "apt-cache search keyboard switch" in terminal
[13:32] <BonaC> alex: http://forum.lxde.org/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=31486
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[13:33] <alex285> BonaC, thank you, hold a second I need to connect my raspberry in monitor to do this
[13:34] <BonaC> I don't even know if that works, it can be Rasbian still lacks the support for the software mentioned there.
[13:34] <BonaC> But it's worth a try
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[13:37] <steve_rox> fun
[13:37] <alex285> BonaC, that worked, thank you very much
[13:38] <BonaC> No problem.
[13:38] <steve_rox> still havein fun with wifi?
[13:38] <BonaC> funfunfunfunfun
[13:38] <BonaC> Not really
[13:39] <steve_rox> what erm os?
[13:39] <BonaC> Xbian
[13:39] <steve_rox> i have no idea which one that is
[13:39] <BonaC> Ah, you need the version?
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[13:39] <BonaC> Hold on.
[13:39] <steve_rox> nah
[13:40] <steve_rox> i only have exp with raspien or whatever the hell its called
[13:40] <BonaC> Rasbian
[13:40] <steve_rox> yeah
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[13:40] <BonaC> But both are based on Debian
[13:40] <steve_rox> whenever i tryed to do wifi on it i got permission issues
[13:41] <BonaC> I got mine working in Raspbian
[13:41] <BonaC> Flawlessly
[13:41] <steve_rox> when i was in the x gui id allways get permission denied errors
[13:41] <steve_rox> id have to load X using super user level
[13:41] <steve_rox> is there a cmd you can use to conect?
[13:42] <BonaC> Hmm, not sure.
[13:42] <BonaC> But you can do the settings into /etc/network/interfaces
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[13:42] <steve_rox> i was trying to make my rpi a wifi access point but it failed
[13:43] <BonaC> You need specific dongle for that
[13:43] <BonaC> I tried it on my server, I only had the client/adhoc-type of dongle
[13:43] <BonaC> Mine didn't support access point
[13:43] <steve_rox> oh right
[13:44] <BonaC> And I again managed to crash my Xbian network
[13:44] <BonaC> Oh goodie
[13:44] <steve_rox> fun
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[13:45] <steve_rox> http://www.zen74792.zen.co.uk/images/P1060356_A.jpg
[13:45] <steve_rox> thats what im messing with
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[13:46] <steve_rox> i need more parts
[13:46] <BonaC> What have you done with it, in addition to make the Raspi fit in it
[13:46] <steve_rox> i have two rpi
[13:46] <steve_rox> the other is on all times hosting a www server and mumble
[13:46] <BonaC> I got my first yesterday
[13:46] <steve_rox> allso used it for iplayer,utube
[13:46] <steve_rox> converting files
[13:47] <steve_rox> managed to get it to read my digicam using pict to bridge
[13:47] <steve_rox> err law breaking FM transmitter
[13:47] <steve_rox> got dgen on it too
[13:47] <BonaC> Make one that covers 10 kilometers
[13:47] <BonaC> I dare you
[13:47] <steve_rox> id like to be able to make some scripts eventually
[13:48] <steve_rox> nah i dont want the pigs and off com after me
[13:48] <steve_rox> with a long wire its supposed to go 50 meters
[13:50] <steve_rox> i spose if you made the device portable there would be less chance of getting caught hehe
[13:51] <steve_rox> trying to decide if i should trash a usb keyboard to put into the rpi
[13:51] <steve_rox> its pcb would give more button interfaces than the gpio
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[13:57] <steve_rox> BonaC ya gone?
[13:57] <BonaC> Nope
[13:57] <BonaC> Just going insane
[13:58] <steve_rox> :-)
[13:58] <steve_rox> the rpi has that effect sometimes
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[14:01] <BonaC> Everything Linux has that effect on me sometimes
[14:01] <BonaC> But when it's deployed successfully
[14:02] <BonaC> Rock solid.
[14:02] <BonaC> My flimsy AMD Athlon 64-based server
[14:02] <BonaC> Has the record of 200 days uptime
[14:02] <steve_rox> i have a amd64 cpu here somewhere
[14:02] <steve_rox> socket 754
[14:03] <BonaC> Hmm
[14:03] <steve_rox> 64 bit came a bit too early tho in them days
[14:03] <BonaC> Which is more powerful, Raspi or Athlon 64 3200+?
[14:03] <steve_rox> vista helped increase 64bit tho since it was such a ram sucker
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[14:03] <steve_rox> heh ya cant exactly compare em like that
[14:03] <BonaC> I know, but when Raspi gets optimized enough.
[14:04] <steve_rox> both have advantages and disadvantages
[14:04] <steve_rox> depends on what you wanna do with it
[14:04] <BonaC> Like Athlon needing a heatsink.
[14:04] <BonaC> And Raspi having not enough memory.
[14:04] <steve_rox> be interesting when X sessions are rendered on the gpu rather than cpu
[14:04] <Triffid_Hunter> BonaC: in raw number crunch the athlon will beat rpi hands down.. rpi is closer to an overclocked k6-II
[14:05] <Triffid_Hunter> however, the rpi has co-processors for video which the athlon system will most likely lack
[14:05] <BonaC> Yah
[14:05] <steve_rox> in them days you had a gpu in a agp slot to take the load
[14:05] <BonaC> I doubt the 9600 XT I have in it would render even 720p video.
[14:06] <Triffid_Hunter> also, the rpi takes less than 5 watts
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[14:06] <BonaC> Whole Raspi, Athlon takes at least 100 times that
[14:07] <BonaC> 5w vs. 65 - 75w
[14:07] <BonaC> Hmm
[14:07] <BonaC> No
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[14:07] <steve_rox> this very pc im using at moment is a xp2100 at 1.73ghz
[14:07] <Triffid_Hunter> I'm glad they finally realised they have to cap TDP at sensible numbers.. modern chips range from 30w to ~65w these days
[14:07] <BonaC> Damn it Raspberry, you freeze my brain
[14:07] <BonaC> Not AMD
[14:07] <BonaC> 125W tdp.
[14:08] <Triffid_Hunter> BonaC: don't recall AMD ever releasing anything that stupid.. pentium 4 hit 130w TDP at one point though
[14:08] <Triffid_Hunter> as far as I know intel ended up abandoning the p4 core, went back to p3 and developed from there
[14:08] <BonaC> AMD Phenom II 955+ BE
[14:09] <BonaC> 125W TDP.
[14:09] <steve_rox> i had a amd 8 core black something some time ago
[14:09] <steve_rox> fx or something
[14:09] <Triffid_Hunter> BonaC: heh my last desktop was a thoroughbred-b 2400+, I haven't looked at hardware for a while now ;)
[14:09] <BonaC> :D
[14:09] <steve_rox> it died after about a year and it went back
[14:10] <BonaC> I currently have AMD Phenom II 955+ BE, 8GB 800MHz DDR2, GeForce GTX 460 1GB on my rig
[14:11] <BonaC> Soo...
[14:11] <BonaC> Yah.
[14:11] <steve_rox> not sure if i should be investing so much in pc these days with apple/ms destroying it
[14:12] <BonaC> It's not going anywhere soon. Also playing games with a P4 with a GF 6200 is quite a pain
[14:12] <steve_rox> brb post
[14:12] <Triffid_Hunter> BonaC: heh my last desktop had a 5200 :/
[14:13] <BonaC> So you're on a laptop
[14:13] <BonaC> I myself haven't seen the "shine" in that
[14:13] <Triffid_Hunter> yep, donated by a friend who upgraded
[14:13] <Triffid_Hunter> it's oldish but rock solid stable which is nice for a laptop
[14:13] <BonaC> They tend to get hot and are a pain to use regularly.
[14:13] <Triffid_Hunter> currently sitting on 109 day uptime
[14:13] <ozzzy> I have some kind of nvidia on this... and intel graphics on the laptop
[14:14] <Triffid_Hunter> which is how long since last power cut longer than my battery life
[14:14] <Triffid_Hunter> core duo 1.66, 2G ram, go 7300 gpu.. nothing amazing but does the job
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[14:16] <steve_rox> im back
[14:17] <steve_rox> tiny5v fan arrived
[14:17] <Alina-malina> Hello all! I can anyone tell me what is the raspberry pi should i pick to install debian like linux, and run cronjob to connect remote server and do some stuff there get information back analize it and then send to me by e-mail?
[14:18] <dreamreal> Alina-malina: any will do. But: http://pidora.ca/ !
[14:18] <steve_rox> what do you desire to do with your rpi?
[14:18] <dreamreal> and debian IS linux, same with Fedora. Linux is linux is linux.
[14:18] <shiftplusone> Alina-malina, do you need it to connect through wifi or ethernet?
[14:18] <ozzzy> linux is a kernel
[14:18] <dreamreal> now, if you'd said you wanted to install a RiscOS like Linux....
[14:18] <Alina-malina> shiftplusone, both also through gprs to configire later
[14:19] <steve_rox> wonder if they updated riscos to run at insane low res , allough probly be pointless to run at all then
[14:19] <Alina-malina> dreamreal, i want something more like debian syntax to use
[14:19] <shiftplusone> Alina-malina, then you'd want a Model B pi (if I understood your question correctly)
[14:19] <dreamreal> debian syntax?!
[14:19] <shiftplusone> Alina-malina, if you were asking about which OS to use, then Raspbian (it's debian optimized for the pi)
[14:19] <steve_rox> i thought Alina-malina was asking what OS to use , im confused
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[14:19] <dreamreal> Debian syntax is the same as Fedora syntax
[14:19] * dreamreal is still partial to fedora :)
[14:20] <Alina-malina> shiftplusone, oh ok than you so much, dreamreal i never used Fedora, i am new to linux
[14:20] <user82> hi. does anyone know if the cheap car tft displays work with the analog video? http://www.aliexpress.com/item/4-3-TFT-LCD-Car-Reverse-RearView-Color-Monitor-DVD-VCR-Free-Shipping/548289558.html
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[14:20] <BonaC> Should work?
[14:20] <shiftplusone> Alina-malina, good luck
[14:20] <steve_rox> composite
[14:20] <dreamreal> yep, feel free to ask for help
[14:21] <Alina-malina> shiftplusone, thank you so much, what about cases? are there any cases?
[14:21] <dreamreal> I guess you're using the pi as a low-cost computer?
[14:21] <shiftplusone> Alina-malina, lots
[14:21] <user82> BonaC, i hope so too
[14:21] <Alina-malina> could you please give me some links so i see what exactly i am loking for?
[14:21] <steve_rox> user82 , its composite so it should be okay
[14:21] <dreamreal> Depends on what you want to do
[14:21] <shiftplusone> Alina-malina, http://elinux.org/RPi_Cases
[14:21] <user82> good ot hear!
[14:21] <steve_rox> its probly 12v by default
[14:22] <Alina-malina> shiftplusone, thank you so much! if i have questions i will be back soon, first i have to order it now!
[14:22] <shiftplusone> Alina-malina, where are you ordering from?
[14:22] <steve_rox> good luck
[14:23] <steve_rox> and make sure you have a good power supply
[14:23] <Alina-malina> shiftplusone, not sure yet, i guess ebay or aliexoress like webisteS?
[14:23] <dreamreal> Alina-malina: depends sort of where you are
[14:23] <shiftplusone> Alina-malina, bad idea. What country are you in?
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[14:23] <Alina-malina> I am from Armenia
[14:23] <shiftplusone> Hm, tricky.
[14:23] <shiftplusone> RS might be the best bet
[14:24] <Alina-malina> what is RS?
[14:24] <shiftplusone> Just a second, I'll look into it
[14:24] <Alina-malina> ok
[14:25] <steve_rox> these rpi's are going everywhere :-)
[14:25] <steve_rox> its put the uk on the globe haha
[14:25] <Triffid_Hunter> steve_rox: where was it before?
[14:25] <shiftplusone> Pretty sure the UK was always on the globe >_<
[14:25] <steve_rox> ppl just dident notice it
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[14:28] <steve_rox> try think of a way to safely add this rpi cam in now somehow
[14:29] <shiftplusone> Alina-malina, try here http://raspberrypi.rsdelivers.com/default.aspx?cl=1 or pick the country closest to you from here http://farnell.com/raspberrypi-consumer/approved-retailers.php . Check which one ends up being cheaper when you take postage into account.
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[14:31] <Alina-malina> shiftplusone, thank you so much!!!
[14:31] <steve_rox> may the rpi force be with you ,,, or something
[14:32] <knob> I got my rPi yesterday in the mail! =)
[14:32] <shiftplusone> Alina-malina, no problem. Are you by any chance Russian (or speak Russian?)
[14:32] <knob> Haven't even turned it on yet... eager to do that!
[14:32] <Alina-malina> yes i do
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[14:32] <Alina-malina> shiftplusone, but rsdelivers i think is the best option! They have paypal:)
[14:33] <shiftplusone> Alina-malina, Your English is good, but if you find Russian easier, feel free to send me a private message and I can try to help out.
[14:33] <dreamreal> most do
[14:33] <Alina-malina> shiftplusone, thank you so much!
[14:33] <shiftplusone> np
[14:33] <dreamreal> and if you speak Russian, I'd avoid Pidora :)
[14:33] <shiftplusone> lol
[14:33] <Alina-malina> :)))
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[14:34] <shiftplusone> I like how they chose to put a link on the front page to 'apologize' for the name.>_<
[14:35] <dreamreal> shiftplusone: well, it caused a bit of a fuss. :)
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[14:35] <dreamreal> Who knew there were so many Russians running Fedora :)
[14:36] <Alina-malina> oh now i understand what pidora really is:)))) it is Pi + Fedora:)))))))
[14:36] <dreamreal> yep
[14:36] <dreamreal> fedora remixed for the pi
[14:36] <dreamreal> actually pretty nice, just an unfortunate name for the russians :)
[14:36] <shiftplusone> Alina-malina, wait, the reason I asked where you were ordering from is because most distributors also sell cases. If you scroll down on the RS page I gave you, you can see the ones they have.
[14:37] <Alina-malina> good very good.! Thank you so much! shiftplusone yes i already noticed that and the english website is super i will find the stuff there thank you
[14:37] <shiftplusone> great
[14:38] <foobar0> OMXplayer is giving me very distorted audio. I played the same file with mplayer and it works fine. Anyone knows how to fix this? I'm running fully updated Arch Linux ARM with lastest firmware.
[14:38] <shiftplusone> foobar0, I think you need to downgrade omxplayer
[14:39] <foobar0> Which version should I downgrade to?
[14:39] <shiftplusone> I don't remember whether it's the firmware, omxplayer or both that you need to downgrade and to what version. I'll check.
[14:39] <steve_rox> i had issues when i installed latest omxplayer but then it vanished
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[14:40] <shiftplusone> foobar0, try asking in #archlinux-arm btw
[14:40] <foobar0> ok
[14:40] <shiftplusone> (while I google)
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[14:44] <shiftplusone> foobar0, are you compiling manually or getting it from AUR?
[14:45] <foobar0> I got it from AUR.
[14:45] <shiftplusone> using yaourt?
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[14:45] <foobar0> packer
[14:45] <Triffid_Hunter> someone want to let me in on the joke, translate pidora from russian?
[14:45] <shiftplusone> change the repository it's downloaded from. The original developer is no longer working on it, so it was forked
[14:45] <shiftplusone> https://github.com/popcornmix/omxplayer/commits/master
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[14:46] <shiftplusone> Triffid_Hunter, sounds close to homophobic slang.
[14:46] <foobar0> I see. I'll try that.
[14:46] <Triffid_Hunter> shiftplusone: ah, unfortunate
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[14:54] <daveaway> basically if i dont have linux/unix it's going to be a massive pain for me to compile asm for the pi
[14:54] <daveaway> that's all i can see ;/
[14:54] <user82> is there a tutorial on how to create a virtual(non existing) display and then remotely connect to it? i remember there was some framebuffer fake display that you could use
[14:55] <shiftplusone> user82, tightvnc will do pretty much that.
[14:55] <shiftplusone> x11vnc will use a real display if you need to
[14:55] <user82> thx shiftplusone i will google for it
[14:56] <shiftplusone> user82, this is for Arch, but the info should be usable everywhere https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Vncserver
[14:56] <user82> shiftplusone, since i have arch: perfect
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[14:56] <shiftplusone> ah, well there you go
[14:56] <user82> thx!
[14:56] <shiftplusone> np
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[15:00] <Triffid_Hunter> daveaway: there's tons of tutorials for setting up cross toolchains on windows, but it's always gonna be at least a little harder than linux and similar unless you get a fancy integrated IDE
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[15:01] <shiftplusone> If you're just compiling asm, it's not going to be much difference
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[15:02] <Triffid_Hunter> I guess at least partially because the sort of folk who write compilers also like to hack on their kernel
[15:02] <Triffid_Hunter> daveaway: planning on writing some armv6hf assembly? I usually leave it to the compiler
[15:05] <daveaway> i just want to learn it, i want to create a low latency audio thing for the pi
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[15:05] <Triffid_Hunter> daveaway: last time I looked into low latency, jack was the go. I tried pulseaudio on my laptop, was dreadful.
[15:05] <daveaway> aye Triffid_Hunter, but so many tutorials just link to bits of soft that dont exist no more loL
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[15:06] <daveaway> i need under 5-6ms
[15:06] <shiftplusone> You should be able to to just grab the Mentor toolchain and compile whatever you need.
[15:06] <daveaway> ill have a gander
[15:06] <shiftplusone> (aka codesourcery)
[15:06] <Triffid_Hunter> daveaway: ah. I'd suggest then an audio DSP chip
[15:07] <Triffid_Hunter> daveaway: but certainly try it with jack on the pi first and see how you go
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[15:09] <daveaway> i have a pretty clear image in my head of what i want to do but yeah
[15:09] <daveaway> first step will be to get audio going in and then out
[15:09] <daveaway> infact, first step will be to finish the arm asm tutorial XD
[15:09] <daveaway> loLlll
[15:10] <shiftplusone> getting audio through USB or an extra chip and gpio?
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[15:10] <daveaway> what will happen eventually is ill pick up and ADC
[15:10] <daveaway> an*
[15:10] <daveaway> and a DAC
[15:11] <shiftplusone> so... gpio then
[15:11] <daveaway> yup
[15:11] <daveaway> i need to set up midi aswell
[15:11] <shiftplusone> and this is all without an OS?
[15:11] <daveaway> start simple and build
[15:11] <daveaway> yeah why not?
[15:12] <shiftplusone> Lots of reasons, but I like your way better -D
[15:12] <daveaway> there will be no GUI (possibly later)
[15:12] <shiftplusone> * =D
[15:12] <daveaway> tahts if i dont give up before ive even started
[15:14] <steve_rox> yay for tiny 5v fan
[15:15] <steve_rox> seems perfect size
[15:15] <steve_rox> gm0501pfb3-8
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[15:19] <foobar0> shiftplusone: omxplayer from popcornmix's repo works perfectly. Thanks for your help!
[15:19] <shiftplusone> yay, I didn't know this myself, so it's good to have it verified.
[15:19] <steve_rox> haha
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[15:29] <gazzwi86> : hey, has anyone used the arduino shield with a raspberry pi? I'm trying the Cooking hack one and struggling
[15:29] <gazzwi86> 4.2 on this page stopped my pi from working earlier: http://www.cooking-hacks.com/index.php/documentation/tutorials/raspberry-pi-to-arduino-shields-connection-bridge
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[15:44] <gordonDrogon> it's an intersting project, but I'd much rather see new "shields" being developed specifically for the Pi.
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[16:04] <Phosie> o/
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[16:07] <Phosie> Been having nothing but issues with my powered hub. :(
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[16:11] <gordonDrogon> give it more power :)
[16:12] <Phosie> 2A, supposed to work with the pi.
[16:12] <Phosie> It's booted up once, now it wont.
[16:12] <IT_Sean> I cannoh do it capt'n! I dohnot have the powah!
[16:13] <Phosie> I'm going to say it's my SD card again.
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[16:13] * gordonDrogon revokes IT_Sean 's license to even think in that accent.
[16:13] * IT_Sean does it anyway
[16:14] <gordonDrogon> ye huvnay a cloo.
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[16:15] <Phosie> I'll reflash the card later and try again.
[16:17] <ozzzy> gordonDrogon: not that I don't like/use wiringpi but are there any tutorials out there on playing with IOs using straight ansi C
[16:17] <Jck_true> Phosie: You may have 2Amp but if your MicroUSB cable is bad that won't do you any good
[16:18] <Jck_true> ozzzy: http://www.airspayce.com/mikem/bcm2835/
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[16:19] <Phosie> The website I ordered the hub from recommends that cable
[16:19] <Phosie> hm
[16:21] <Phosie> Not happy, still going to hope it's the card.
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[16:26] <larsgk> hi. I am working on a project with the RPi for education in developing countries - based on webapps .. and I am wondering: are there any plans for a slightly faster RPi this year?
[16:27] <IT_Sean> NO.
[16:27] <IT_Sean> There are no plans for a revised raspi model at this time.
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[16:28] <larsgk> IT_Sean: ok (I guess the caps make it firm ;)) - good to know. I'll work on optimizing the software stack then :)
[16:28] <IT_Sean> Good idea. :)
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[16:29] <larsgk> IT_Sean: any experience with webkit/blink based web views that perform resonably well on the Pi? currently using qtwebkit2/qt5...
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[16:34] <ozzzy> Jck_true: tks
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[16:44] <gordonDrogon> ozzzy, you could just look at the wiringPi source code...
[16:44] <gordonDrogon> ozzzy, wiringPi is straight ansi C itself.
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[16:45] <ozzzy> ahhh... i hadn't thought of that.... thanks
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[16:50] <gazzwi86> So I've tried to use an RFID module on my raspberry pi, via an ardunio shield. I can't seem to get it to light the red LED to denote it has detected the RFID tag. Also, the code doesn't seem to get to the loop and hangs after the C++ setup function. Has anyone got any suggestions as to what I should look into to debug?
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[16:53] <gordonDrogon> ozzzy, an alternative would be to look at Gers original code. I wouldn't personally look at that bcm2835 code, but it was originally based on wiringPi anyway
[16:53] <ozzzy> gordonDrogon: I'm happy with WiringPi (tks again)... just wondering what's underneath
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[16:56] <gordonDrogon> ozzzy, nothing too special really. get a copy of the ARP Peripherals manual too to understand how the hardware works.
[16:56] <gordonDrogon> *ARM Peripherals manual..
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[16:58] <ozzzy> I'll do that
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[17:37] <arcanescu> is there any source / place to get hold of the videowall http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3648 ?
[17:37] <arcanescu> got dc :o
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[17:45] <arcanescu> does xinerama work on the PI ?
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[17:49] <BonaC> Now there will be blood if this doesn't work.
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[17:50] <BonaC> I put my secondary wifi access point's encryption to disabled
[17:50] <BonaC> If it doesn't connect, either Raspi or the Buffalo gets it
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[17:58] <BonaC> So
[17:58] <BonaC> Now it finally got connection
[17:58] <BonaC> MAN THE CANNONS
[17:58] <IT_Sean> o_O
[17:59] <BonaC> A bit overboard?
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[17:59] <IT_Sean> Pastably.
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[17:59] <BonaC> Still haven't got the "Yle Areena"-plugin working
[17:59] <BonaC> Dunno why
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[18:04] <BonaC> Aaand
[18:04] <BonaC> Now I've lost all network connectivity, which needs DNS
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[18:05] <BonaC> Damn it IT, making barriers against me and the whole world of knowledge.
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[18:10] <BonaC> I bet my Buffalo just screwed my router
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[18:10] <BonaC> Sending DHCP to it.
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[18:13] <BonaC> I'm a bit puzzled
[18:13] <IT_Sean> oh?
[18:13] <IT_Sean> sounds like you are more then just a bit puzzled...
[18:14] <IT_Sean> what's your boggle?
[18:14] <BonaC> Hmm.. Xbian
[18:14] <IT_Sean> that... isn't a word...
[18:15] <BonaC> It is! Xbian is one of the variants available for the Raspberry Pi
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[18:16] <IT_Sean> Oh, right. Sorry... I'm not familair with it, im afraid.
[18:16] <BonaC> Now I rebooted the Pi
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[18:16] <BonaC> The wifi dongle is flashing like a maniac
[18:16] <BonaC> Hmmm
[18:16] <BonaC> Progress, could it be?
[18:16] <IT_Sean> could be.
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[18:17] <BonaC> But what on earth is the IP-address it has... Since it's not showing up with my pinger-script
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[18:19] <steve_rox> fun
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[18:19] <BonaC> Unless..
[18:19] <BonaC> It does not want to respond.
[18:19] <BonaC> But I can see videos now
[18:20] <BonaC> SUCCESS! ... Sort of..
[18:20] <BonaC> Now, off to the living room!
[18:20] <Scriven> gordonDrogon, Finally got my ulcd-43pct and have tested the big demo! ;) Do you have any suggestions for me to ease my way into rpi programming with it? I'm wondering if I can turn it into a keyboard. ;)
[18:20] * IT_Sean unplugs BonaC's raspi when he isn't looking
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[18:20] <BonaC> I hot glued it already, not a chance!
[18:21] * dreamreal wags fingers in front of bonac's raspi
[18:21] * IT_Sean cuts the power lead
[18:21] <steve_rox> hehe?
[18:21] <steve_rox> hot glued it ?
[18:21] <BonaC> Everything.
[18:21] <IT_Sean> o_O
[18:21] <IT_Sean> why would you do such a thing!?
[18:21] <BonaC> It's inside a huge block of hot clue
[18:21] <Scriven> dipped it in hot glue?
[18:21] <IT_Sean> !!!!!!!!!!!!!
[18:21] <IT_Sean> you.... encased it... in hot glue???
[18:21] <IT_Sean> good lord man, WHY!?
[18:21] <Scriven> hot clue... excellent typo.
[18:22] <BonaC> :D
[18:22] <steve_rox> mine has a dab of hot glue here and there
[18:22] <BonaC> Not really, just to keep your fingers from unplugging stuff
[18:22] <steve_rox> when i had to undo it i had to use a small blowtorch to cheat it
[18:22] <BonaC> but, off to the living room, take two.
[18:22] <IT_Sean> What happens when you need to change the SD card?
[18:22] <steve_rox> heat
[18:23] <steve_rox> my sd is not glued in , but you do have to unscrew the case to get to it
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[18:25] <steve_rox> just haveing fun installing a small fan , think ill have to use a dab of hot glue again
[18:27] <steve_rox> wireing getting a bit messy
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[18:28] <IT_Sean> My hot glue gun got left Up North when i moved.
[18:28] <IT_Sean> I need to get a new one, i think.
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[18:29] <steve_rox> ya just buy the rods and heat them with a lighter
[18:29] <steve_rox> its not as accurate but its faster
[18:29] <steve_rox> somewhat riskyer too
[18:29] <IT_Sean> That would involve buying a lighter, though.
[18:29] <steve_rox> one that can run for a sustained duration
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[18:29] <steve_rox> im sure you have the ablity to make fire tho
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[18:30] <IT_Sean> but.. fire bad!
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[18:33] <Scriven> IT_Sean, I heard 'Fire Bad' as spoken by the SNL cast. lol
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[18:33] <IT_Sean> tehehe
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[18:37] <nid0> use sugru instead, no heat needed
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[18:38] <IT_Sean> nid0: I can walk into the corner shoppe and get refil sticks for a hot glue gun. I cannot walk into the corner shoppe and buy sugru
[18:38] <nid0> tell them to stock it then, a lot of places do now :p
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[18:44] <Grievre> IT_Sean: Money good!
[18:44] <Grievre> Napster bad
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[18:49] <Scriven> Grievre, napster bad FTW!
[18:49] <relative> A relative of mine cannot boot wheezy on his new pi. He gets "PANIC : UFS :unable to mount fs on unknown block". Is this a symptom that his 2GB SD card is too small?
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[18:52] <nid0> assuming he did write the image properly, then probably
[18:53] <bsdfox\> relative, I have wheezy on a 2gb SD
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[18:54] <relative> Thanks bsdfox - good to know. He's new to all this, so I'll go through the SD card writing process with him - two heads being better than one. Cheers.
[18:54] <relative> (I'm new to all this too, but at least I'm a programmer familiar with linux.)
[18:55] <bsdfox\> relative, I think there might (?) be different images for different size SDs
[18:55] <relative> ah, that might explain it
[18:55] <relative> Do you have a pointer to the image you used? :-)
[18:55] <bsdfox\> relative, yeah just chcked there are different ones
[18:55] <bsdfox\> http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/images/raspbian/2013-05-25-wheezy-raspbian/2013-05-25-wheezy-raspbian.zip that should fit on 2gb
[18:56] <bsdfox\> need to unzip then dd the image
[18:56] <relative> perfect - you're a star.
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[18:59] <HonkeyGenius> does anyone happen to know where the demo files are stored fro pi3d?
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[19:03] <quackgyver> Brought my Pi with me on a business trip, along with a bunch of electronics.
[19:03] <quackgyver> Glad I didn't have to explain myself to airport security. :D
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[19:04] <IT_Sean> They've probably seen a few of 'em by now.
[19:05] <quackgyver> "Laptop. Razor. Shoe. Jacket. Shoe. Belt. Jacket. Duffel bag. Pi. Jacket. Laptop. Cellphone. Keys. Another Raspberry Pi."
[19:05] <quackgyver> Just another day at the airport.
[19:05] <IT_Sean> lol
[19:06] <IT_Sean> Depends on the airport.
[19:06] <quackgyver> :)
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[19:06] <BonaC> Mehehheee
[19:06] <IT_Sean> EWR is probably "shoe. jacket. shoe. wallet. laptop. hat. tablet. raspi. baggie of weed. shoe. hat. jacket. shoe. knife. underpants. shoe... "
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[19:08] <BonaC> what about the handgrenade in your back pocket?
[19:08] <IT_Sean> No, they will stop you for that.
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[19:09] <Mortvert> is that a knife in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?
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[19:09] <IT_Sean> Mortvert: it's a knife.
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[19:10] <linkxs> about three weeks ago I decided to do IO stress testing on one of my Pis. Three weeks later, it's still going and doesn't give a crap! http://linkxs.org/io-stress-testing-on-a-raspberry-pi/ and live monitoring at http://linkxs.org/iopi
[19:11] <linkxs> It had one downtime with monitoring thanks to my main munin server crashing for a bit, but the stress testing never stopped
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[19:12] <HonkeyGenius> doh! i guess you have to download the demos separately.
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[19:13] <quackgyver> Anyone here from Paris?
[19:13] <quackgyver> :)
[19:14] <quackgyver> Wondering if there are any cool electronics store where I could get Pi stuff, now that I'm here for a few days.
[19:14] <quackgyver> stores*
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[19:17] <IT_Sean> quackgyver: define "raspi stuff"
[19:17] <quackgyver> Oh you know, just whatever. Fun bargain stuff.
[19:18] <quackgyver> Peripherals and hardware, I guess.
[19:18] <IT_Sean> any electronics reseller.
[19:18] <ant_thomas> ebay.fr ;)
[19:18] <quackgyver> ant_thomas: Good idea.
[19:19] <bsdfox\> linkxs, nice data collection :)
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[19:19] <quackgyver> I wonder if I can find stuff that is expensive in my home country, like maybe displays.
[19:19] <linkxs> bsdfox\, thanks!
[19:19] <quackgyver> Speaking of which, I just got my monitor from china - an unbranded car one.
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[19:19] <quackgyver> It works amazingly well. :)
[19:20] <quackgyver> I'll probably order a couple more. They'll work perfectly for making fun devices.
[19:21] <IT_Sean> quackgyver: what is it... 12v?
[19:21] <quackgyver> IT_Sean: I think so, yeah. Might be 5-9v, if that's possible?
[19:21] <bsdfox\> linkxs, is that website running on a pi router or different router?
[19:21] <quackgyver> I'm not big on electronics so I can't remember.
[19:21] <IT_Sean> If it's for an automotive application,l i rather doubt it
[19:21] <quackgyver> Aight.
[19:22] <quackgyver> You think there are displays that can be powered via USB?
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[19:22] <linkxs> bsdfox\, the website is running on a virtual machine, on a cisco switch, going through a Pi router
[19:22] <quackgyver> Right now I've got the car monitor hooked up to a wireless charging batty.
[19:22] <bsdfox\> quackgyver, you can get character LCDs that'll work on it
[19:22] <quackgyver> battery*
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[19:22] <IT_Sean> There are USB LCDs, but, the raspi won't be able to power them directly.
[19:22] <quackgyver> bsdfox\: Awesome.
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[19:23] <quackgyver> IT_Sean: Well, I wouldn't mind powering it through a hub.
[19:23] <bsdfox\> quackgyver, I put together a little SPI serial lcd and wrote a driver for it if you have any interest
[19:23] <IT_Sean> You'd still need to sort out drivers and the like
[19:23] <quackgyver> If I'm building a device, the power's gotta come from somewhere anyway, and the user won't be able to tell whether it's going straight into the Pi or something else.
[19:23] <quackgyver> bsdfox\: I sure do. Link? )
[19:23] <quackgyver> :)*
[19:23] <quackgyver> IT_Sean: How do you mean?
[19:23] <quackgyver> For the Pi?
[19:24] <IT_Sean> quackgyver: All of the USB powered LCD displays i have seen get the picture data via USB as well.
[19:24] <quackgyver> IT_Sean: Oh, I see.
[19:24] <quackgyver> Gotcha.
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[19:25] <IT_Sean> That said... I am sure there are small LCDs that can be powered w/ 5v.
[19:25] <IT_Sean> But, again... drawing off the raspi may not be possible.
[19:25] <bsdfox\> quackgyver, http://bpaste.net/show/106237/ obviously it's very basic but it's a framework if you want to extend it at all
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[19:30] <quackgyver> One thing I'd like to know is what happens if you connect a USB hub to a power source via USB, and then connect it to the Pi. Will the Pi also connect to whatever else is hooked into the HUB?
[19:31] <quackgyver> Since the Pi can be powered from both the Micro USB slot and the regular one.
[19:31] <quackgyver> bsdfox\: Ah sorry, I thought you had a page set up for it. I'm not much of a coder (yet). :)
[19:31] <quackgyver> But I'll give it a read anyway.
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[19:32] <user82> hi. my complete sd card partitions got broken (power loss). which would be the best way to rescue a c code? opening all 16gb in a text editor and copying the thing is impossible
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[19:33] <myself> user82: what filesystem was the card? Look into the various crashed-hard-drive recovery software.
[19:33] <bsdfox\> user82, dd the image of the entire disk onto a PC
[19:33] <user82> myself, it is completely broken. ext4 repair lost a whole bunch of files and left it unbootable
[19:33] <bsdfox\> from there you can make copies and work on it without destroying everything
[19:34] <pksato> first, make a image of partition or disk.
[19:34] <myself> yeah, good call on the image.
[19:34] <bsdfox\> :\ don't ever try to repair on the failed device (assuming you don't have valid backups) until you have a copy
[19:34] <myself> hard drive space is cheap. copy the whole card before doing more.
[19:34] <pksato> next, try photorec or testdisk against image.
[19:34] <user82> maybe i could split it into blocks. grep for it. and then open once small enough so the text editor does not crash?
[19:35] <user82> just the c file is important..the rest is re installed from scratch in 30min.
[19:36] <bsdfox\> user82, if you attempted a repair have you looked in /lost+found ?
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[19:37] <user82> bsdfox\, good idea
[19:37] <bsdfox\> the autorepair stuff rarely works as expected and normally causes more damage but when you can find the superblocks and restore them you can normally get moving in a positive direction
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[19:38] <user82> ah nice bsdfox\ it is in lost and found :)
[19:38] <user82> thanks
[19:39] <bsdfox\> :)
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[19:39] <bsdfox\> user82, do a quick read through as some parts could be missing or damaged (it'd probably be noticable if so)
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[19:41] <user82> it is in the folder..it just did not know where it came from.as far as i can see complete
[19:42] <bsdfox\> good deal
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[19:45] <myself> next up: how to use rsync, git, or other methods to make sure your code is never only in one place ;)
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[19:47] <bsdfox\> I like to write a little bash script that will tar and scp my code to my fileserver
[19:47] <bsdfox\> since I work on lots of little embedded devices but never have large projects on them it's the fastest way to ensure that I'll actually take backups
[19:47] <bsdfox\> then my fileserver backs up appropriately
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[19:49] <TheNotary> are there a pair of pins on the raspberry pi that are capable of informing the running raspbian OS that they've been tripped (or aren't tripped)? I'm interested in detecting when a door is opened with those security magnet things
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[19:49] <bsdfox\> TheNotary, you can poll any of the gpios
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[19:50] <bsdfox\> I'd assume some can probably be setup as interrupts too but I haven't looked into that
[19:50] <TheNotary> thanks bsdfox\ I have a new search term now! =D
[19:50] <TheNotary> it leads right to a security system tut ironicly, lol http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/gpio
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[20:00] <BonaC> Now I feel stupid again
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[20:01] <BonaC> I had configured my wifi dongle to my DHCP
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[20:03] <BonaC> "Why I can't find Raspi?" - because I was searching in the .100-.150 area, instead of the pre-configured .20-.50
[20:03] <IT_Sean> Tha'll do it
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[20:04] <gordonDrogon> you can vector interrupts from the pins to a user program relatively easilly.
[20:05] <knob> Hey guys... question: I'd like to use a rPi hooked up to a LCD, to display various stats. The stats, the easiest way would be for me to create a webpage. Does anybody have any links of somebody that's done/tried this?
[20:06] <gordonDrogon> do you mean a standard LCD display - like VGA/HDMI?
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[20:06] <knob> gordonDrogon, Yes sir
[20:06] <bsdfox\> BonaC, your dhcp server can probably add hostnames to dns (assuming you use local dns) that takes a lot of the hassle out of that :)
[20:06] <gordonDrogon> I've seen a few - not that hard.
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[20:06] <gordonDrogon> depends on how much webby stuff you know, I guess.
[20:06] <knob> gordonDrogon, Ok. It's that I got my 1st rPi yesterday in the mail, and I still haven't been able to play with it.
[20:06] <BonaC> bsd: I usually don't need to access the DHCP anyway. I even forgot I had that configured.
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[20:07] <knob> Well, if I can open up a web-browser on it, I'll be good to go.
[20:07] <BonaC> I've done statistics scripts with bash
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[20:07] <gordonDrogon> knob, you can open a browser - slowly, and run a web server on it too.
[20:07] <bsdfox\> knob, oh are you at the console and want to get into X?
[20:07] <knob> BonaC, something along those lines. Although I'll probably do something with flash (blech)
[20:08] <bsdfox\> knob, flash is probably a poor choice
[20:08] <gordonDrogon> flash won't run on the Pi. Well, not very well.
[20:08] <knob> bsdfox\, well, haven't even powered it up yet. It's sitting on my desk.
[20:08] <knob> ok, even better. Let's discard flash all together
[20:08] <BonaC> I just had script take outputs from commands run in terminal and save them into a file with <tags>
[20:08] <bsdfox\> if you want to do something fancy use ajax or html5 (flash shoudl be dead)
[20:09] <knob> bsdfox\, question about your name: Does anybody run any of the *bsd variants in an rPi?
[20:09] <bsdfox\> yeah that's a good way to do it. storing into a database then querying that database from php or whatever might be a little cleaner
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[20:10] <bsdfox\> knob, yeah, Tim Kientzle has been working on porting freebsd over. join the freebsd-arm mailing list if you want to get involved
[20:11] <knob> Oh wow... fBSD... even better =)
[20:11] <bsdfox\> most of his work on it is stored under a project called "crochet"
[20:11] <bsdfox\> knob, it's a WIP
[20:11] <BonaC> crotch rocket?
[20:11] <BonaC> Mehehehee
[20:11] <bsdfox\> https://github.com/kientzle/crochet-freebsd
[20:12] <knob> Nice, subscribed to the list
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[20:14] <steve_rox> anything interesting going on?
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[20:49] <wolfram74> i'm trying to set up a static IP
[20:49] <wolfram74> what's the difference between address, net mask and gateway?
[20:49] <IT_Sean> one's an address, one's a netmask, and one's a gateway address.
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[20:50] <wolfram74> i kind of guessed that much, but i'm having trouble figuring out which is which
[20:50] <wolfram74> using ifconfig, there's a reference to net mask, but it's in hex, i think
[20:50] <wolfram74> 0xffffff00
[20:51] <wolfram74> and it sounds frustrated
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[20:52] <gordonDrogon> the mask is rarely in hex. e.g. Mask:
[20:52] <gordonDrogon> (output from ifconfig eth0 on a Pi on my LAN)
[20:52] <wolfram74> so, i'm guessing that address is the IP address given to my router?
[20:53] <IT_Sean> If you are using DHCP, the IP address, nutmask, and gateway should all have been provided by the router
[20:53] <IT_Sean> *netmask
[20:53] <gordonDrogon> if you want to set a static IP, then you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[20:54] <wolfram74> yes, i'm in there right now
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[20:54] <gordonDrogon> look at: http://unicorn.drogon.net/interfaces for an example (of one of my Pi's)
[20:55] <wolfram74> yes, the formatting agrees with each other
[20:55] <wolfram74> now it's a matter of correctly identifying what 32 bit numbers to use
[20:56] <wolfram74> I mean, i'm assuming that I can choose a /wrong/ value for all 3 of those variables
[20:56] <wolfram74> because I did last night when i was tinkering with it and then the router didn't recognize the pi as a thing anymore
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[20:57] <gordonDrogon> what did it give you (as a dotted decimal - really, no-one uses hex for IPv4!) when it was using dhcp ?
[20:57] <gordonDrogon> it might have looked like 192.168.x.y ...
[20:58] <wolfram74> how would i look that up?
[20:58] <gordonDrogon> well...
[20:58] <wolfram74> i mean, when i access my router i do "" on a web server
[20:58] <gordonDrogon> you should know from past experiences.. however...
[20:58] <gordonDrogon> ok.
[20:58] <wolfram74> and my laptop is
[20:58] <wolfram74> and when the pi was talking friendly like it was
[20:58] <gordonDrogon> so access the router and find out what the dhcp range is, then pick an IP outside that range - e.g. if the range is through then you pick for the Pi
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[20:59] <gordonDrogon> you need to make sure you pick an IP address outside the range the router will assign - else something else might come along, ask the router for an IP address and get the same one you're using on the Pi - which would not be a good thing.
[20:59] <HonkeyGenius> range should be to i believe
[20:59] <gordonDrogon> HonkeyGenius, it depends on the router - unless you know more about wolfram74's setup?
[21:00] <wolfram74> ok, investigating the LAN setup category, i see that the IP subnet mask is indeed
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[21:00] <gordonDrogon> that's ok. now see if you can find the dhcp range.
[21:00] <wolfram74> if this sub category of "use router as dhcp server" is what we're looking for
[21:00] <gordonDrogon> you're the only one who can see it :)
[21:00] <wolfram74> then the range goes 10.0.0.(2-254)
[21:01] <gordonDrogon> ok. you need to change the range - e.g. 2-100
[21:01] <gordonDrogon> then you have 101-254 for your own statically assigned devices.
[21:01] <HonkeyGenius> i usually use .187 because dr dre would.
[21:02] <gordonDrogon> e.g. my dhcp range goes from .10 through .29, so I have 1-9 and 30-254 as static IP addresses I can use.
[21:02] <gordonDrogon> what's dr dre ?
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[21:03] <HonkeyGenius> Dr. Dre as in Doctor Dre
[21:03] <gordonDrogon> still none the wiser
[21:03] <HonkeyGenius> well it may be for the best then. unless you like old-school rap music.
[21:04] <Phosie> and overpriced headphones.
[21:04] <HonkeyGenius> that too
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[21:05] <Phosie> Hmm... I need more SD cards.
[21:05] <gordonDrogon> trying different distros?
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[21:06] <Phosie> I think one of my cards has died as the pi wont boot, even after a reflash
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[21:08] <Phosie> I do intend on trying Arch at some point.
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[21:11] <wolfram74> curiously, a new device has appeared on the router, but it's calling itself admin-pc
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[21:12] <wolfram74> and it's, not 101
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[21:17] <gordonDrogon> can the Pi ping ?
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[21:17] <gordonDrogon> if it can, then see if you can ping
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[21:18] <BonaC> It seems I managed to break Xbian
[21:18] <BonaC> Again
[21:18] <BonaC> ...
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[21:18] <BonaC> Now apt-get says that it can't fetch any mirrors
[21:19] <steve_rox> errr well done ;-) ?
[21:19] <BonaC> Now what am I supposed to do
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[21:20] <steve_rox> restore whatever file you were playing with from a backup
[21:20] <HonkeyGenius> that reminds me i need to make a backup image
[21:20] <BonaC> Ah
[21:20] <BonaC> Reboot helps
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[21:21] <steve_rox> still working on fitting my fan
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[21:22] <steve_rox> bit of a ugly hole but i dont have the tools to do a clean job
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[21:33] <BonaC> Now I'm at the point I accidentally crash my xbmc
[21:33] <BonaC> Oh goodie!
[21:33] <steve_rox> how ya crash that?
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[21:34] <BonaC> By not properly adding addons?
[21:34] <BonaC> :D
[21:34] <steve_rox> oh :P
[21:34] * IT_Sean double-facepalms
[21:34] <steve_rox> i need to figure out how to make my usb tv digitial tuner work on that
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[21:36] <steve_rox> i cant find any compatible win7 software for it so if the rpi can use it will be great
[21:36] <IT_Sean> What brand is it?
[21:37] <steve_rox> wintv/ hauppauge
[21:37] <wolfram74> gordonDrogon: you still about?
[21:37] <steve_rox> they dont choose their names very well
[21:37] <BonaC> Hmm
[21:37] <IT_Sean> And you can't get it to work in Windows? Oo_
[21:38] <steve_rox> i cant even find their website anymore
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[21:38] <BonaC> Where the _FUCK_ I managed to copy the files
[21:38] <steve_rox> hmm
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[21:38] <steve_rox> that was fast
[21:38] <IT_Sean> twss
[21:38] <steve_rox> haha
[21:38] <steve_rox> about 4 seconds
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[21:38] <BonaC> Meh, not a good idea.
[21:39] <IT_Sean> Pardon?
[21:39] <BonaC> I talked to myself
[21:39] <IT_Sean> Ahh.
[21:39] <Scriven> clarity is key.
[21:39] <steve_rox> so is soldering
[21:39] <BonaC> Hmm
[21:39] <steve_rox> or it goes boom
[21:39] <Scriven> lol
[21:40] <Scriven> bah, another sd card having issues. :|
[21:40] <IT_Sean> BonaC: Please do mind the language & conduct policy in place in this channel.
[21:40] <steve_rox> what make is it?
[21:40] <Scriven> am fscking it, can't tell right now.
[21:40] <steve_rox> my eyes play tricks on me
[21:40] <steve_rox> ;-)
[21:40] <Scriven> just had a power issue w/ my pi, battery was running out, and the pi went b0rk and kicked me out. :|
[21:41] <IT_Sean> Yeah, i almost triggerd on that as well. :p
[21:41] <steve_rox> yeah :-D
[21:41] <Scriven> lol
[21:41] <steve_rox> oh wait thats linux chkdsk equivlient :-D
[21:41] <Scriven> yes! not swearing.
[21:41] <Scriven> although one does lead to the other sometimes. lol
[21:41] <IT_Sean> I assumed you meant it as such.
[21:42] <IT_Sean> fsck = file system check.
[21:42] <steve_rox> sometimes fsck can fix it but other times its useless
[21:42] <IT_Sean> Indeed.
[21:42] <BonaC> Hmm
[21:42] <Scriven> yeah, have noticed that too. We'll see what happens this time.
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[21:42] <BonaC> I'm not sure how I've managed to hide the files I need
[21:42] <IT_Sean> Have you looked betwix the sofa cushions?
[21:43] <BonaC> Since I've done a "cp * ../.xbmc/addons"
[21:43] <steve_rox> when i tryed fsck on ubuntu it self destructed and wouldent boot after that
[21:43] <IT_Sean> I always find my keys down in there.
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[21:43] <BonaC> Wear jeans with bigger pockets, problem solved. To me it did, at the very least.
[21:44] <Scriven> fsck passed (apparently), and it's a patriot steve_rox
[21:45] <IT_Sean> BonaC: I got a little glow-ey LED thing to put on my keys... makes 'em a lot easier to spot
[21:45] <steve_rox> oh rights
[21:45] <IT_Sean> problem solved.
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[21:45] <steve_rox> sometimes i have to tell fsck to scan the other partiton
[21:45] <steve_rox> its werid but im getting used to it
[21:45] <Scriven> Bah. Raspbian still hangs w/ the little logo in the corner, and no cursor.
[21:45] <Scriven> *sigh*
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[21:46] <steve_rox> you not overclocking are ya or bad psu?
[21:46] <Scriven> steve_rox, specifically Patriot LX Series, Class 10, 32B SDHC
[21:46] <Scriven> PSU should be OK, did just try medium OC, will hold shift on boot and see if that fixes.
[21:47] <IT_Sean> 5v at around 1A?
[21:47] <IT_Sean> or more?
[21:48] <steve_rox> i can boot mine off my pc's usb but you get werid performance from lower power
[21:48] <Scriven> 5V w/ 5A available. Using a Castle Creations CCBEC (Remote Control Vehicle terminology for a voltage regulator) to downvolt the 2S lipo to 5V.
[21:48] <Scriven> fsck says all partitions are good, will see what happens with shift held down.
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[21:50] <Scriven> Bah, holding down shifts did nothing. This is actually starting to make me angry, how readily the pi seems to eat SD cards.
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[21:50] <steve_rox> odd
[21:50] <Scriven> I don't think i'm doing anything groundbreaking, I'm certainly not the first to run it from batteries...
[21:50] <steve_rox> what batts?
[21:50] <Armand> Scriven: I had mine on batteries for 2 days, no issue. :)
[21:50] <bsdfox\> Scriven, what distro are you using?
[21:51] <steve_rox> when you get low power it goes into a boot loop i think
[21:51] <bsdfox\> Scriven, you might want to make a ramdisk if you're doing lots of read/write on certain things
[21:52] <Scriven> steve_rox, RC car lipos, these ones are 3S Turnigy Nanotech, 4000maH
[21:52] <Scriven> bsdfox\, raspbian, updated.
[21:52] <Scriven> power isn't low, have checker plugged into balance port, all is green, and the bats were just recharged this AM.
[21:52] <steve_rox> maybe you should take measurements over tp1/2
[21:53] <Scriven> putting out 5.1V as measured on adapter to micro-usb.
[21:53] <IT_Sean> What's the voltage metered at TP1 / TP2 ?
[21:53] <Scriven> The pi is cased, making that measurement a pita.
[21:53] <IT_Sean> uncase it.
[21:53] <IT_Sean> :p
[21:54] <steve_rox> dont tell me he glue gunned it up
[21:54] <Scriven> lol
[21:55] * IT_Sean just shakes his head
[21:55] <Scriven> ok, which is +, tp1 | 2?
[21:55] <steve_rox> i try keep the gluegun ammounts lower these days
[21:55] <steve_rox> i have to use a heat gun to unglue em
[21:55] <steve_rox> its marked on the pcb
[21:56] <steve_rox> ones next to the silver cap lower left
[21:56] <steve_rox> ones next to the gpio right hand side
[21:56] <steve_rox> they are clearly marked
[21:56] <Scriven> I see tp1 and tp2, just asking which is + which is -
[21:57] <steve_rox> doesent entirely matter if your using a mutli meter set to voltage mode
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[21:57] <Scriven> understood, but question still stands. ;)
[21:57] <steve_rox> if its the wrong way the meter will display a - sign
[21:57] <steve_rox> its one way of telling its the wrong way
[21:58] <steve_rox> learning the tricks of the mutli meter is handy for various things
[21:58] <Scriven> hrm, only 4.94... strange
[21:58] <Scriven> I'm quite familiar with the use of the multimeter, thanks.
[21:58] <steve_rox> yay then
[21:58] <Scriven> I just don't like seeing -
[21:59] <steve_rox> hehe
[21:59] <steve_rox> i could measure mine if you want a comparision value
[21:59] <Scriven> So is 4.94 good, or should I crank the output of the VR to 5.2v?
[21:59] <IT_Sean> 4.94 is within the spec
[21:59] <steve_rox> what you using to convert the voltage down?
[21:59] <Scriven> 5V w/ 5A available. Using a Castle Creations CCBEC (Remote Control Vehicle terminology for a voltage regulator) to downvolt the 2S lipo to 5V.
[21:59] <steve_rox> one them regulators that wastes power?
[22:00] <Scriven> not a resistor-based one, no.
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[22:00] <steve_rox> they get hot if they waste power
[22:00] <steve_rox> for my converter i have to aim 2v higher than the target value
[22:00] <Scriven> 2V!
[22:00] <Scriven> I'd nuke stuff if I did that w/ mine.
[22:01] <Scriven> This one: http://www.castlecreations.com/products/ccbec.html
[22:01] <Scriven> set at 5.1V
[22:01] <Scriven> only powering an external keyboard from Pi, usb-hub is self-powered (by the same voltage regulator)
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[22:03] <Scriven> TP1 is positive, BTW.
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[22:03] <Scriven> 4.97V now. Tried taking out the overclock 'stuff' from config.txt and rebooting, but still no dice.
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[22:03] <Scriven> Looks like I need to do another card. *sigh*
[22:04] <IT_Sean> THat's not too hard.
[22:04] <Mortvert> unplug keyboard
[22:04] <Mortvert> try again
[22:04] <Mortvert> and try to power it up differently
[22:04] <Scriven> Mortvert, Did that just now, nothing plugged in but monitor, power, sd.
[22:04] <Scriven> that's probably where the extra .2V came from.
[22:05] <Mortvert> got a phone charger with mini-usb?
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[22:06] <Scriven> nope... er, maybe.
[22:06] <IT_Sean> The raspi uses micro-usb, actually.
[22:07] <Scriven> i knew what he meant. And yes, stole my wife's stupid-phone charger.
[22:07] <IT_Sean> Nice
[22:08] <Scriven> says 5.04V, but that's w/ nothing plugged in but power. (no sd, no monitor)
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[22:08] <steve_rox> my test points say 5.13
[22:09] <steve_rox> im gonna assume thats normal in some way
[22:10] <IT_Sean> TP 1/ 2 say 5.13?
[22:10] <IT_Sean> That's a hair high, but, within spec, and within the error range of the meter, so... lets call it good.
[22:10] <Scriven> hrm, 5.04 vs 4.95.... not sure I like that.
[22:11] <IT_Sean> Both are within spec for the Pi
[22:11] <steve_rox> whats max?
[22:11] <IT_Sean> The official accepted voltage range for the raspi is 4.75v to 5.25v
[22:11] <steve_rox> ah so im okay then
[22:12] <steve_rox> the dc-dc converter is powering 2 other things too
[22:12] <IT_Sean> Any less may cause instability, any any more may cause magic smoke
[22:12] <steve_rox> the lcd and fan
[22:12] <IT_Sean> and you do NOT need a stinking fan! :p
[22:12] <steve_rox> i do this time
[22:12] <IT_Sean> o_O
[22:12] <steve_rox> this case is too confined
[22:13] <steve_rox> plus its allready installed now :-P
[22:13] <Scriven> lol
[22:13] <Scriven> I really like the metal cases on ebay, where the case is the heat-sink.
[22:13] <Scriven> but can't justify the $70 for them.
[22:13] <IT_Sean> you are such a floz
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[22:13] <steve_rox> for ppl with too much moneys maybe
[22:13] <Bushmills> oh, those with heat pipes
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[22:13] <IT_Sean> Scriven: $70 for something you don't actually need and would not really be that effective anyway is a bit steep.
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[22:14] <gxx> will an sandisk ultra sdhc card [16GB] [30MB/s] work?
[22:14] <Bushmills> i wondered why metal case with heat pipe weren't offered specifically for raspberry pi
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[22:15] <chithead> because rpi performance is not thermally limited
[22:15] <Ben64> because it doesn't make much heat
[22:15] <Bushmills> ideally, the back a large cooler. rest transparent, so one can adore the beautiful cooling technology
[22:16] <gxx> anyone?
[22:16] <Bushmills> "thermally limited" ,,, "not much heat" baa, who cares
[22:16] <gxx> also whats the faster read/write that the pi can handle?
[22:16] <gxx> fastest*
[22:17] <shiftplusone> gxx, http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards
[22:17] <gxx> that'll work, was looking for a page like that
[22:17] <gxx> thanks
[22:17] <shiftplusone> have fun
[22:18] <Scriven> IT_Sean, yeah, but it's so cool! lol
[22:18] <IT_Sean> my raspi is naked. It sits on a shelf
[22:19] <Ben64> mine is enclosed by a lego case
[22:19] * rymate1234 is now known as achin-_-
[22:19] <gordonDrogon> I put mine in boxes or the skpang frame + breadboard things.
[22:19] <Ben64> won't short out, won't get all dusty
[22:19] <shiftplusone> Since it's cheaper to buy a pi with a case than without one, all mine are cased =D
[22:19] <IT_Sean> I need to get a new glue gun, so i can get my case sorted out
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[22:20] <Ben64> its not cheaper to buy with a case
[22:20] <shiftplusone> Ben64, it is for me.
[22:20] <shiftplusone> Ben64, Free shipping on orders over $45
[22:20] <IT_Sean> shiftplusone is a pi-god. Or at least, a Pi-minorDiety
[22:20] <shiftplusone> so pi alone is something like $56, while a cased pi is $50. >.>
[22:20] <Ben64> from where?
[22:20] <shiftplusone> element14
[22:20] <Ben64> hmm
[22:20] <Scriven> shiftplusone, shipped to which country?
[22:21] <shiftplusone> Aus
[22:21] <Scriven> AH. Not sure the same deal is offered for CAN
[22:21] <Scriven> OK, another card ready to go.
[22:21] <shiftplusone> hm. Is it newark over there?
[22:21] <Scriven> only 8GB this time.
[22:21] * IT_Sean taps his index finger against the No Canadians sign on the wall
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[22:22] <Scriven> This time a Retail Plus 8GB SDHC class 10.
[22:22] <Scriven> IT_Sean, lololol!
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[22:23] <Scriven> BAH, was a fried SD card... new one booted perfect right away...
[22:23] <Scriven> ARGH!!!
[22:23] <IT_Sean> What part of Canukistan, Scriven?
[22:23] <Scriven> Lower mainland, AKA Vancouver-area currently, but I grew up in Ontario, near Toronto.
[22:24] <IT_Sean> Ah, that's okay then.
[22:24] <IT_Sean> :p
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[22:24] <Scriven> lol
[22:24] * shiftplusone wonders what the wrong answer was.
[22:25] * myself waves from Detroit
[22:25] <IT_Sean> shiftplusone: There is no wrong answer... I just enjoy screwing with Canada.
[22:25] <myself> IT_Sean: I think I've seen that sign, it says "Canadians could you go home now please? Thanks so much."
[22:25] <IT_Sean> It's like America's silly hat. :p
[22:26] <IT_Sean> Or, as Robin Williams once put it, "A loft apartment over a really great party"
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[22:26] <Scriven> IT_Sean, We prefer to think of America as our silly pants.
[22:26] <IT_Sean> tehehe
[22:26] * aaa801 stumbles in
[22:26] <Scriven> And, since we're on top.......
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[22:26] <Scriven> i'll leave that one to the imagination of the viewers, given the supposed age range of this channel...
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[22:27] <gxx> Okay they have my card on there, SanDisk Ultra [16GB] [Class10] but the last four numbers on the model is different
[22:27] <IT_Sean> "We are the Canadian borg. Please wait to be assimilated. Resistance would be impolite. Pour l'assimilation en francais, presse sur "2""
[22:28] <gxx> I have (SDSDU-016G-AW64), but it shows (SDSDU-016G-U46)
[22:28] <Scriven> IT_Sean, Ah, you've been here!
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[22:28] <IT_Sean> Scriven: I THINK so.
[22:28] <Scriven> We're polite even as we kick butt. ;)
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[22:29] * Scriven laughed at the "Why a Canadian Sniper would fail" cartoon on FB a few months ago.
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[22:29] <Scriven> the punchline of course was that he yelled 'sorry' after he shot someone from the treeline.
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[22:30] <IT_Sean> Scriven: I THINK i've been there. I have about $45 CDN tucked away, but no memory of ever going there.
[22:30] <IT_Sean> So, i must have had a properly good time.
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[22:30] <Scriven> Excellent! Must have been our beer, most American's aren't used to beer that strong. :P
[22:31] <myself> Hehe. I lived in Mississaugs for a few months for work, and consider the GTA my second home. Love it, would go back in a heartbeat.
[22:31] <IT_Sean> Thats the really odd thing, Scriven...
[22:31] * IT_Sean doesn't drink
[22:31] <Scriven> Sorry you had to live in Mississauga! ;)
[22:31] <Scriven> See, it's THAT strong!
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[22:31] <IT_Sean> PAHAHAHAH
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[22:33] <hanshans> hi all! i planned to order a piface and a temperature sensor. can i connect the sensor and resistor directly to piface using single conductors or do i need something like the "gertboard"?
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[22:37] <gordonDrogon> piface has no analog input.
[22:37] <gordonDrogon> gertboard has analog input.
[22:37] <myself> Oh, I liked Mississauga. I was 15 minutes from Hacklab, 4 minutes from some pretty-okay sushi, 8 minutes from amazing sushi, and had a grocery store within walking distance.
[22:37] <wroberts1> which sensor? DS18B20?
[22:37] <gordonDrogon> Pi can read 1-wire temp. sensors directly though.
[22:38] <Scriven> myself, I don't drive only take public transit or cycle sometimes, so I found mississauga terrible. I used to work way out near the airport, but lived near the Beaches in Toronto.
[22:38] * IT_Sean wants chinese food
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[22:38] <hanshans> wroberts1: i thought so...
[22:38] <myself> Ooh. Yeah, that would be awful. I'm from Detroit so I consider a car to more necessary than oxygen..
[22:39] <Scriven> lol. It was awful on weekdays, I had to work on a Sunday once, THAT was laughable... one bus up a main road every 90 minutes... and the bus on the main-road feeder route was designed to miss the connection by 2 minutes.
[22:39] <Scriven> no bus driver waited. lol
[22:40] <Scriven> My boss eventually just drove down to meet me, after he checked his msgs and figured I'd be another hour until I arrived. Took us 15 minutes. lol
[22:40] <myself> Heh. I rode a bus once or twice for field-trips in school. And I took a Greyhound once.
[22:41] <Scriven> Bah, I'd forgotten how long this install takes, have to leave in 15 minutes to get kid from school... can't leave the system on battery.
[22:41] <Scriven> myself, I grew up in the country, took the school bus every day, 45 minutes each way, every day for 14 years of school (back in the days when we still had Grade 13).
[22:41] <Scriven> not a fan of busses now, lol
[22:41] <IT_Sean> Noone likes buses
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[22:42] <Encrypt> Hi Guys!
[22:42] <Scriven> I don't mind the buses in the UK actually. Dunno why, but when I visit over there the buses just seem so much more intelligently planned and run than they are over here.
[22:43] <Encrypt> I just uploaded a picture of my pi for some of my friends
[22:43] <Scriven> besides the double-decker willies. lol
[22:43] <Encrypt> I thought it would interest you... :)
[22:43] <Encrypt> Enjoy -> http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19626172/P1050063.JPG
[22:43] <IT_Sean> hmm... a model B raspi in a case.
[22:43] <IT_Sean> :p
[22:43] * SpeedEvil needs a legally operable car.
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[22:44] <IT_Sean> SpeedEvil: Only if you intend to get stopped by the police.
[22:44] <Scriven> Wow Encrypt, so neat!
[22:44] <Encrypt> IT_Sean, :p
[22:44] <Encrypt> Thanks ;)
[22:44] <SpeedEvil> IT_Sean: well, yes.
[22:44] <IT_Sean> It is a very zen setup.
[22:44] <Scriven> my work desk is so much less tidy than that! lol
[22:44] <Encrypt> BTW, I have a 130 litters aquarium just on the top :p
[22:44] <IT_Sean> SpeedEvil: The alternative is to move somewhere where they don't do vehicle inspections
[22:44] <Encrypt> This space was empty... and it looks fine with the Pi :p
[22:45] <IT_Sean> My pi is still nekked.
[22:45] <Scriven> lol! Empty space, what's that like? ;)
[22:45] <SpeedEvil> IT_Sean: In principle, it is very easy for them to do a paper excercise - and correlate vehicles insured with insurees who do not have licences.
[22:45] <IT_Sean> Why is your vehicle not legally operable?
[22:45] <Encrypt> Scriven, The aquarium?
[22:45] <SpeedEvil> IT_Sean: No licence. I get extremely tired halfway through the test, due to chronic fatigue.
[22:45] <IT_Sean> Ooh, right.
[22:46] <Scriven> Encrypt, just a poor joke about how I have no empty space left at my house, what with the 4 of us (2 adults 2 kids) and all our 'junk'.
[22:46] <Encrypt> :p
[22:46] <Scriven> SpeedEvil, Become a Freeman-on-the-land and tell folks you don't need one. ;)
[22:46] <Encrypt> It's my bedroom actually...
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[22:49] <Scriven> ok, bbiab after getting child from school.
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[22:57] <undecim> I just ordered my raspi, and I want to get a small and cheat battery backup for it. An external USB battery pack should work (as long as it can simultaneously charge and output power). Anyone have a recommendation?
[22:57] <undecim> s/cheat/cheap/
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[22:59] <SpeedEvil> My solution wasn't cheap :)
[22:59] <undecim> What was your solution?
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[23:00] <SpeedEvil> 2*110Ah 12V batteries on a APC UPS, with a 5V converter hanging off them.
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[23:00] <SpeedEvil> It would power the Pi for around a month.
[23:01] <Armand> SpeedEvil: I have 4x 7Ah from a UPS myself.. very nice way to do things. ;)
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[23:01] <undecim> Only a month?
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[23:01] <SpeedEvil> undecim: Well, assuming I don't hook up the solar panels.
[23:01] <SpeedEvil> Then it will basically go for around 10 years till the batteries die.
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[23:02] <undecim> I want something small. if I could fit it in an altoids tin and set it under the Pi, that would be awesome. There's a lot of phone chargers with that profile, but I can't tell if they can charge and output simultaneously.
[23:03] <Encrypt> Scriven, Here is what I told you: http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19626172/P1050064.JPG :p
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[23:26] <Phosie> I feel like ripping my hair out, why is tkinter such a pain in the ass
[23:27] <Phosie> tkinter.TclError: couldn't connect to display ":0.0"
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[23:33] <wolfram74> does ifconfig actually give the devices IP address if it's hooked up to a wireless router?
[23:34] <Phosie> ifconfig
[23:34] <wolfram74> yeah?
[23:34] <Phosie> oops wrong terminal
[23:34] <ShorTie> iwconfig
[23:34] <Phosie> ifconfig gives me the internal IP of my netbook
[23:34] <wolfram74> that one gave me "no wireless extensions"
[23:35] <wolfram74> yeah, so i couldn't get the external ip address that way
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[23:38] <Phosie> Ugh I give up with tkinter
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[23:47] <gordonDrogon> SpeedEvil, sure it would power it for a month? Did you go 12 -> 230 -> 5v ?
[23:48] <Encrypt> For a month !?!
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[23:49] <undecim> Would a pair of 1inx1in heat sinks be too big to put on the CPU and Ethernet chips?
[23:50] <ShorTie> why ??
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[23:51] <Encrypt> undecim, Just buy a PiHolder / Iceberg Case ;)
[23:51] <undecim> well if I spend another $3, I save $6 in shipping...
[23:51] <Encrypt> BTW, it seems heatsink have a low impact on the Pi performances...
[23:51] <Bushmills> undecim: there exist peltier elements, for effective cooling
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[23:52] <Bushmills> don't trust those passive crap
[23:52] <undecim> I'm not worried about performance... I just don't want heat to damage it
[23:52] <Encrypt> It's the same for me :p
[23:52] <ShorTie> it will shut down before it distroies itself
[23:53] <Encrypt> How are you using it?
[23:53] <undecim> Well even before destroying itself, heat can still wear out components
[23:54] <nid0> you wont come close to damaging your pi
[23:55] <nid0> pi's in cases with no heatsinks will generally run at ~45c
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[23:55] <undecim> Yeah, but If I can effectively get paid to buy some heat sinks for it...
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[23:55] <undecim> why not put the heat sinks on it?
[23:56] <chod> even the slowest of fans reduces the temp very well
[23:56] <ShorTie> don't forget about the 15 bucks for the heat sink epoxy need to glue them to it
[23:57] <Bushmills> consider cryogenic temperature reduction. liquid nitrogen may do nicely
[23:58] <undecim> Well later I was going to get into liquid helium cooling...
[23:59] <Encrypt> undecim, Just buy a PiHolder case ! :)
[23:59] <Encrypt> It's nice and functional...
[23:59] <Bushmills> or simply build a freezer around it
[23:59] <Encrypt> Buy nicely expensive too :p
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