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IRC Log for 2013-06-14

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[0:01] <mgottschlag> paxcoder: also, http://pinouts.ru/Inputs/GameportPC_pinout.shtml might have a better explanation of the resistance
[0:01] <mgottschlag> but if you just want to see for yourself, connect all 5V pins together and use your ohmmeter to measure resistance between the 5V pins and your analog output pin
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[0:03] <rigid> HA! FTDI232B-M rulez! Prolific sucks! :)
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[0:04] <Datalink-M> Rigid, heh
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[0:04] <rigid> i don't get garbage anymore, but the darn thing disconnects during boot :-/
[0:05] <Datalink-M> I usually use my Arduino for serial (3.3v capable clone) by throwing the chip into tristate
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[0:05] <rigid> i think it's an issue with the mobile-phone cradle stuff that's still on the PCB... it works when I disconnect/reconnect the USB connector
[0:06] <rigid> damn, i forgot to lookup the raspbian default login :-P
[0:06] <Datalink-M> Maybe, did you test levels?
[0:07] <rigid> i didn't test anything... i was too lazy to hook up the scope
[0:08] <rigid> i just didn't desolder all the other stuff from the P900 cradle... but it still works...
[0:08] <rigid> the serial port gets closed 2 times during boot and then finally before login... i reconnect it, and I can login then
[0:08] <Datalink-M> .... if that was a 5 volt you'd fry the pi
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[0:09] <paxcoder> mgottschlag, would you mind going private?
[0:09] <rigid> Datalink-M: it still works... aren't the inputs 5V tolerant? I read that somewhere
[0:10] <Datalink-M> .... not on the pi
[0:10] <rigid> hm ok
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[0:10] <SpeedEvil> They are 'current limited 5V may not always die'
[0:10] <Brandano> mgottschlag: are you trying to retrofit an old gameport joystick to be actually useful?
[0:10] <rigid> then I was lucky i guess
[0:10] <mgottschlag> Brandano: paxcoder probably is
[0:11] <paxcoder> mgottschlag, Brandano, confirmed.
[0:11] <Brandano> Some of the late gameport joysticks "abused" the gameport to communicate via a digital protocol
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[0:11] <gordonDrogon> SpeedEvil, pi inputs are current limited?
[0:11] <mgottschlag> I never did anything with gameport joysticks my last diy joystick project was atmega and usb based :)
[0:11] <Brandano> specifically the microsoft force feedback ones
[0:11] <SpeedEvil> I mean, if you apply current limited 5V inputs, the Pi may not always die
[0:11] <SpeedEvil> If you connect an input directly to 5V, it probably will.
[0:11] <Brandano> also, you are better off rewiring it to a cheap usb stick innards
[0:12] <Brandano> because the defaiult gameport joystick uses a variable resistor as a sensor, instead of a voltage divider. Calibration floats awfully with temperature
[0:13] <rigid> hm.. whats "triggerhappy" service...
[0:13] <mgottschlag> paxcoder: what joystick model is it?
[0:14] <rigid> ah found it
[0:14] <Brandano> the mode of operation of the old gameport was to write a dummy value to a buffer that loaded a bank of capacitors, then discharge these through the joystick axes. Counting the cycles this took gave a position value
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[0:14] <paxcoder> mgottschlag, http://reviews.cnet.com/game-accessories/genius-flight-2000-f/4505-10110_7-30194600.html
[0:15] <gxx> Quick Question, If you have black bars, do you turn overscan off or on?
[0:15] <Brandano> I am not sure, but buttons might have been read directly. And I think the Microsoft sidewinder devices used the button inputs to implement some form of digital communication
[0:15] <mgottschlag> gxx: off
[0:15] <gxx> okay thank you very much
[0:15] <rigid> btw. if the chipset was designed for mobile devices, how come it has HDMI output?
[0:16] <gxx> mobile devices have mirco hdmi
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[0:16] <mgottschlag> well, that exact chip was more for DVRs I think, where HDMI makes a lot of sense, but yeah, even smartphones have it now
[0:16] <rigid> they do? wow
[0:16] <gxx> mainly the high-end ones do
[0:16] <rigid> mgottschlag: DVR without audio input? hmm
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[0:17] <Brandano> paxcoder: do you particularly like that model or it's just what you have handy?
[0:17] <paxcoder> Brandano, the latter
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[0:18] <Brandano> because you can get an equivalent off ebay for peanuts
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[0:20] <Brandano> or an usb gameport adapter. I think that specific model is just a plain 4 channels, 4 buttons joystick
[0:20] <Brandano> the hat switch probably uses a resistor network on the 4th channel
[0:21] <rigid> argh... after a gazillion years my only wifi usb stick is still not supported :-/
[0:21] <DeliriumTremens> you realize those things are ridiculously cheap, right?
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[0:22] <rigid> that doesn't help much if the shops are closed and it takes less time to manually crosscompile the kernel module :-/
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[0:23] * Brandano prefers to use the wired network
[0:23] <rigid> Not easy with model A
[0:23] <Brandano> ah, yes, that might be an issue.
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[0:24] <Brandano> In other news, I finally got my network adapter to work. It took a lot of crawling, swearing, and a crimping tool
[0:24] <rigid> you built your own?
[0:24] <Datalink> rigid, I have a USB ethernet adaptor around here somewhere
[0:25] <rigid> Datalink: guess what I'm about to buy tomorrow :)
[0:25] <Brandano> only the cables. the rpi was fine
[0:26] <Brandano> I wonder, the model A only has one USB port, but the traces for the 2nd USB port are still there, right?
[0:26] <rigid> yep
[0:26] <Datalink> Brandano, yes, but it needs the chip, which adds a USB Hub
[0:26] <Brandano> not to mention the fact that the ethernet port is also an USB device, so there should be traces for that as well
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[0:27] <Datalink> lsusb is how I'm going to enable and disable network when I set up PiMessageBoard for my city
[0:27] <Brandano> Ah, ok, so it bypasses the root hub. I thought the SOC had an internal one
[0:27] <rigid> hm, one hub is there... so it should be possible to add other connectors
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[0:27] <Brandano> rigid: probably needs voltage conditioning circuitry. And self-resetting fuses
[0:27] <rigid> Datalink: you're building a PiMessageBoard?
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[0:28] <rigid> Brandano: hm... there's not much space for that on the PCB
[0:28] <rigid> Datalink: with LEDs?
[0:29] <Brandano> if the PCB is the same between model A and model B there should be traces for at least the 2nd usb port
[0:29] <Brandano> the USB to ethernet adapter might be working on 3.3 volts instead
[0:29] <rigid> it is on the model A pcb... but only one place for another chip
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[0:31] * linuxstb suggests just buying a model B, if you want a model B… ;)
[0:31] <Datalink> rigid, no, this is gonna be a cheap powerpoint computer for the city's PEG channel
[0:31] <rigid> Datalink: what's a PEG channel?
[0:31] <Brandano> linuxstb: that's a sensible suggestion
[0:32] <rigid> linuxstb: yeah, i regret choosing model A just to save a few bucks and going minimal... normally I don't have an issue with beeing minimal
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[0:32] <Brandano> linuxstb: but maybe there's an use for a model with 3 USB ports and no ethernet adapter. Then again, the power supply is already quite critical
[0:32] <rigid> but I need a USB hub anyway, so it doesn't matter if I connect an ethernet adapter there
[0:33] <rigid> Brandano: powersupply? there is none :)
[0:33] <rigid> just a cheap drop converter afais
[0:33] <rigid> normally you can stack those to increase max. current... hm
[0:33] <Brandano> yes, but if the PSU doesn't have a very stable voltage and/or can't provide enough current to the USB devices it tends to cause trouble
[0:34] <rigid> well, linear drop regulators normally give very stable voltage... but they don't provide much current indeed
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[0:36] <Brandano> rigid: uh-oh, my bad: "LAN9512-JZX Datasheet (PDF) - SMSC Corporation - USB 2.0 Hub and 10/100 Ethernet Controller"
[0:36] <Brandano> so it does also work as a hub
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[0:37] <rigid> ah
[0:38] <Brandano> Essentially, get a powered USB hub and an ethernet adapter and you'll have a model B
[0:39] <Brandano> probably you can get both to fit in a neat enclosure too
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[0:41] <rigid> yeah... it won't be like all-on-one-PCB but i guess without externally powered USB hub the raspi is rather useless for most applications
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[0:41] <rigid> it resets if I plug in my wifi adapter
[0:41] <rigid> i _suppose_ that's a power issue
[0:41] <plugwash> what country are you in?
[0:41] <rigid> me? germany
[0:41] <Brandano> Italy
[0:42] <rigid> that reminds me that I wanted to prepare that mozarella & tomatoes for hours...
[0:42] <plugwash> if you were in the UK i'd have suggested http://cpc.farnell.com/unbranded/psg90189/hub-3x-usb-with-ethernet-blk-grey/dp/CS16979 but I think CPC charge quite a bit for shipping outseide the UK
[0:42] <Brandano> rigid: depending on what hub you choose you might get a better throughput on the model A
[0:42] <rigid> ah nice
[0:43] <rigid> plugwash: i guess stuff like that also exists on mainland europe :)
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[0:43] <Datalink> rigid, public, education, government
[0:43] <Brandano> plugwash: farnell, has several shops across europe, I believe
[0:44] <Datalink> er, pretend I spell that right
[0:44] <rigid> Brandano: could be... since you go directly into the BCM without detours
[0:44] <plugwash> while CPC are owned by farnell their stock range is somewhat different from the main farnell range
[0:44] <plugwash> and I don't think farnell carry that item
[0:44] <rigid> farnell is well expensive
[0:44] <Datalink> rigid, yeah, devices will oveload the Pi's power inverter at times... it's annoying
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[0:44] <Brandano> says bus powered. I can see the socket for a power brick, but probably it has to be bought separately
[0:45] <rigid> Datalink: iirc, you can just solder another LM7803 (?) on top of the existing one to double the current
[0:45] <Brandano> rigid: that's a 3v stabilizer
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[0:45] <Brandano> probably there to supply 3.3 volts for the CPU
[0:46] <Datalink> there are a couple mods, I would not put 2 regulators on the same circuit though, that's dangerous
[0:46] <Brandano> I think 5v just passes through
[0:46] <Datalink> Brandano, yes
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[0:46] <Brandano> perhaps there's a zener to avoit overvoltage
[0:46] <Datalink> kinda on 5V... it goes through caps I think
[0:46] * plugwash has bought serveral of those hubs from CPC and they all came with power supplies
[0:46] <plugwash> despite what it says on the website
[0:46] <rigid> Brandano: yeah, it creates 3V from 5V... but if your 5V drops to <3.7V (iirc) it stops generating the 3V
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[0:47] <rigid> there's an autofuse at least
[0:47] <rigid> which normally doesn't help much
[0:47] <rigid> or was it 4.7V? i can't remember the minimum input of LM7803
[0:48] <pksato> 78XX need +2V
[0:50] <Datalink> it's actually the power dropping faster than the circuitry can keep up
[0:51] <rigid> it's an LM1117 i guess
[0:52] <rigid> which needs +1.3V at 800mA and +1.2 at 100mA
[0:52] <Brandano> you could replace it with a switching stabilizer
[0:52] <pksato> LM1086 for 3v3
[0:52] <rigid> Brandano: i doubt that... it would introduce noise like hell
[0:52] <pksato> LM1117 for 1.8V
[0:52] <Brandano> which, however, will likely cost more than the board...
[0:52] <Brandano> nah, there are some that are "drop in", with very good conditioning. Very expensive, though
[0:53] <rigid> pksato: LM1117 is available in multiple versions from 1.8V to 5V (and adjustable versions)
[0:53] <pksato> yes
[0:53] <rigid> Brandano: without external inductor?
[0:54] <rigid> I'd be _very_ interested in such a part... it could save a lot of power to maybe justify the price
[0:54] <ozzzy> linear regulators don't need inductors
[0:55] <rigid> ozzzy: linear regulators != switching regulators
[0:55] <ozzzy> nope.... switching regulators are better... but require more external parts
[0:55] <pksato> on my RPi have a SE8117T33 and SE8117T18
[0:55] <ozzzy> for low current use check out http://goo.gl/zQihP
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[0:56] <rigid> ozzzy: that's hardly a drop in replacement for a linear regulator
[0:56] <rigid> and it gives noise like hell
[0:56] <ozzzy> nope
[0:56] <Brandano> rigid: the problem is the current. How much current will the RPI need on the 3.3 v line?
[0:57] <rigid> Brandano: dunno, but if the 5V drops too low, there is 0 mA which certainly is not enough ;)
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[0:57] <ozzzy> I run three of those here... they're nice and clean
[0:57] <rigid> but I'm not really sure if that's the power issue of the rpi... since one could use a 5V supply which gives high currents
[0:58] <Brandano> http://www.dimensionengineering.com/products/de-sw033
[0:58] <ricksl> Doesn't even the new pi still have a polyfuse?
[0:58] <Brandano> says <2% ripple
[0:58] <rigid> ozzzy: really? how much noisefloor do they introduce?
[0:58] <ozzzy> on my scope they're quite clean.... clean enough for the input caps on the Pi to take care of
[0:58] <rigid> 2%? 100mV is quite a lot
[0:58] <Brandano> Still just a step-down, though
[0:59] <rigid> ozzzy: ah you connect it before the cap... ok
[0:59] <ozzzy> yep... it's connected the same as the micro usb
[0:59] <rigid> i thought about a drop in replacement for the 3.3V regulator... but i'm in doubt that this is even a problem
[1:00] <Brandano> ozzzy: I have seen that board used to get POE working on a TP-mr3040
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[1:01] <Brandano> passive, non-standard POE, mind you
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[1:01] <ozzzy> I use one to power my DSLR, another to power a hub and another to power the Pi
[1:01] <Blacklite> i have an interesting problem and it may or may not be related to the current discussion. when i plug USB wifi or wireless keyboard/mouse into the R-Pi it restarts. the wi-fi and kb/mouse work absolutely fine, but something totally crashes the R-Pi as soon as i plug them in
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[1:01] <Brandano> rigid: you only have one USB port to power. Just make sure the power brick is good quality
[1:02] <Brandano> Blacklite: voltage drop
[1:02] <pksato> Blacklite: power issues
[1:02] <rigid> Brandano: yeah
[1:02] <pksato> PSU or cable problens.
[1:02] <Brandano> wireless device suck a lot of power
[1:02] <Blacklite> and i thought using a 5v2a wall-to-usb would make it work correctly? or does the adapter still not like the sudden increase in voltage?
[1:03] <Blacklite> i've tried using a nexus 7 wall-to-usb and an ipad wall-to-usb
[1:03] <rigid> it could also be too thin traces for the power in the inner layer
[1:03] <rigid> Blacklite: how much mA will it provide?
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[1:03] <rigid> ah 2000mA
[1:03] <Blacklite> yup
[1:03] <Brandano> yep, that too. there's people that modded the board to bypass the PCB traces
[1:03] <ozzzy> the current limit is the trace sizes
[1:03] <rigid> that should be enough unless you use a USB toaster
[1:03] <Blacklite> lol
[1:04] <ozzzy> er... limiter
[1:04] <rigid> ozzzy: that sucks really... so if I solder a cable from the micro usb to + of the USB, the problem vanishes?
[1:04] <Blacklite> yeah i've seen videos of that
[1:05] <rigid> hm... i'm not an EE but that shouldn't happen
[1:05] <rigid> there's plenty of space in a 4 layer PCB...
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[1:06] <rigid> that should be a feature request for model C :)
[1:06] <Brandano> rigid: theoretically an USB device should never draw more than 500ma. In some extended mode it can go up to 700ma
[1:06] <SpeedEvil> If there is enough current flowing to cause (say) half a volt drop from one end to the other, you're vastly, vastly overloading the trace.
[1:06] <rigid> Brandano: theoretically... you mean ideally...
[1:06] <Brandano> I believe it's part of the standard
[1:06] <rigid> in theory you can draw much more current and it practice this is done :)
[1:07] * rigid looks forward for USB4 :)
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[1:07] <SpeedEvil> Not an get a USB stamp
[1:07] <Brandano> In theory you can't. But in practice it happens all the time
[1:07] <Blacklite> i guess that's what you get when you pay $10 for a wifi adapter
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[1:08] <rigid> Brandano: why shouldn't you be able to do so in theory? the only limiting factor is your PSU
[1:08] <Brandano> Blacklite: the simplest solution is to use a powered USB hub
[1:08] <rigid> i guess there are some USB chipsets which do current monitoring.. are those common now?
[1:08] <Blacklite> well the thing is it works if i have it plugged in when i power the pi on
[1:08] <Brandano> because the standard says you shouldn't. USB3 can reach a couple of amps, I think?
[1:08] <Blacklite> and for this case, that's fine
[1:09] <Brandano> Blacklite: I think they draw more power when booting
[1:10] <Blacklite> yeah, i guess i just want to know if there will be any stability problems in doing it this way
[1:10] <Blacklite> and i guess the answer is *maybe* :)
[1:11] <Blacklite> although i've had it running for a few days at a time and it seems to be stable
[1:11] <Blacklite> and the wifi is reliable
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[1:17] <rigid> does anyone know how to make some space in raspbian? i want to remove xorg and all dependencies... like gnome etc
[1:17] <rigid> apt-get autoremove xserver-xorg doesn't seem to clean it all
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[1:18] <shiftplusone> try apt-get remove xorg-server (or whatever the package is called)
[1:18] <shiftplusone> then apt-get autoremove
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[1:19] <rigid> i tried that one too (with purge instead of remove) but it only grabs a few packages
[1:19] <rigid> is still have /usr/share/gnome and lots of icons
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[1:20] <shiftplusone> don't have a debian install myself to check, but I guess keep removing thing. I am pretty sure there is a way to check which package a file belongs to.
[1:20] <linuxstb> dpkg -S /path/to/file will tell you the package a specific file belongs to, if that helps.
[1:20] <shiftplusone> ah, there you go
[1:20] <linuxstb> ;)
[1:20] <rigid> linuxstb: yes... thanks
[1:22] <shiftplusone> I wonder if there's a command line equivalent of xdiskusage (I know there's du, but that doesn't count)
[1:22] <rigid> shiftplusone: why? try "du --summarize /* -m | sort -n"
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[1:22] <rigid> ehrm "du --summarize -m /* | sort -n" i mean
[1:22] <Brandano> Hmm, I need to add an auxiliary PSU to my G15. It's flickering
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[1:24] <steve_rox> whats a g15 :-P
[1:25] <shiftplusone> Logitech keyboard I am guessing
[1:26] <steve_rox> oh right
[1:26] <Brandano> yup
[1:26] <shiftplusone> (I used to have that one, but it didn't work with the pi at all)
[1:26] <steve_rox> a over complicated sentence then
[1:26] <rigid> ahh... 575M without graphical stuff, locale and docs... much better
[1:26] <shiftplusone> ....du still running >.>
[1:27] <rigid> it's fast as hell here... i wonder why
[1:27] <rigid> probably the raspbian image was partitioned correctly
[1:27] <shiftplusone> Running on my, slow disk... lots of stuff.
[1:27] <shiftplusone> *on my desktop
[1:27] <Brandano> shiftplusone: other than sucking too much power, I can't see why it shouldn't work. Youll have to port g15daemon, g15macro and g15stats, though, if you want to use the function keys and lcd screen
[1:28] <Brandano> but I use a wireless keyboard for the pi
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[1:28] <shiftplusone> I don't have the G15 here anymore. Moved it to the office and got a mechanical keyboard instead.
[1:29] <ricksl> shaftpulseone what mechanical keyboard did you get?
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[1:30] <shiftplusone> Razer blackwidow
[1:30] <shiftplusone> Seemed to have good reviews.
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[1:30] <ricksl> I have heard so many mixed revies on anything razor
[1:30] <ricksl> aparently their mice feel exquisite but break down often
[1:31] <ricksl> and their keyboards suck unless they are mechanical
[1:31] <shiftplusone> yeah, razer is a little gimickey since they are going for the 'game market'
[1:32] <shiftplusone> Logitech seems to have the best value for money with these things
[1:32] <Brandano> I am fairly happy with mine. I got the older model with the fold-down display and 18 programmable buttons
[1:32] <shiftplusone> and *gamer >.>
[1:32] <Brandano> most important, it works well as just a keyboard
[1:33] <ricksl> I have one of those dell keyboards you find everywhere
[1:33] <Brandano> those are fine too
[1:33] <ricksl> unfortunately it draws an astounding 1.5 amps intermittently
[1:33] <Brandano> I used to have an old clicky keyboard as well
[1:33] <ricksl> it has a built in hub
[1:34] <ricksl> but even if it isn't used it can spike to 1 amp ish like nothing. And then you get an annoying sticky or repeated key error
[1:35] <steve_rox> why are ppl crazy over mechanical keyboards?
[1:35] <Tickle> Okay I've got Airplay set up on my Raspberry Pi and it works from my phone, but not my MacBook Pro. Any reason for that?
[1:38] <shiftplusone> steve_rox, no idea. Meant to be more durable and all that, but I am yet to have a keyboard die on me anyway.
[1:38] <steve_rox> i dont really rember any keyboard dieing on me
[1:38] <steve_rox> mechanical or not
[1:39] <shiftplusone> yup
[1:39] * Brandano once resurrected one
[1:39] <shiftplusone> I do like the feel of it though, but not enough to justify the silly price
[1:39] <steve_rox> i guess mechanical ones must sound like the terminators metal bones rattleing while in use
[1:39] <Brandano> I managed to spill half a can of Tennents Super in it
[1:40] <steve_rox> fun
[1:40] <Blacklite> steve_rox
[1:40] <Brandano> I took it apart and washed it. Even separated the membranes
[1:40] <Blacklite> my intern at work got a mechanical keyboard
[1:40] <Blacklite> as a result he has been moved to the other side of the office
[1:40] <steve_rox> haha
[1:40] <steve_rox> near the bog door?
[1:40] <steve_rox> :-P
[1:40] <Blacklite> lol
[1:41] <Blacklite> as i type i can still hear the damn thing
[1:41] <Brandano> if he ever slacks off people will notice immediately
[1:41] <Blacklite> over the music and the talking
[1:41] <Blacklite> and yeah lol
[1:41] <Blacklite> although he's set up on a keyboard-based linux OS
[1:41] <steve_rox> was consider scrapping a membrane keyboard for its pcb then create some custom control interface or something
[1:41] <Blacklite> so to do anything he has to use the keyboard, hardly ever see him use the mouse
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[1:42] <steve_rox> i need to learn more about scripting
[1:42] <Brandano> steve_rox: feasible, but the way scanlines are organized it has limitations
[1:42] <steve_rox> so i can map keyboard buttons to trigger events or something
[1:42] <Brandano> not to mention all keys are momentary
[1:42] <Blacklite> actually on the topic of raspberry pi's - i was thinking of making a scoring system for our foosball table. has anyone done anything remotely like this before?
[1:43] <Brandano> better get a microcontroller and create your own HID
[1:43] <steve_rox> sounds annoying
[1:43] <Blacklite> so, any hardware installations that sense pressure
[1:43] <Brandano> there's libraries for it already
[1:43] <steve_rox> it would be fun to solder 30+ wires to a pcb and decode its letters to combinations hehe
[1:44] <Brandano> Blacklite: why pressure?
[1:44] <steve_rox> might go insane in the process tho
[1:44] <steve_rox> maybe its a voilent bootball game
[1:45] <Brandano> steve_rox: http://www.leobodnar.com/products/BU0836/
[1:45] <steve_rox> you get points rated on how hard you headbutt a opponent
[1:45] <steve_rox> hence you need pressure sencor
[1:45] <Blacklite> well i figured it'd be easiest to sense the ball as it drops into the goal at the end
[1:45] <Blacklite> http://hackaday.com/2012/11/26/electronically-augmented-foosball-brings-competition-to-the-office/
[1:45] <Blacklite> i hate this planet. every single thing has been done already
[1:45] <Brandano> Blacklite: you could use an optical sensor
[1:45] <Blacklite> true
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[1:45] <Brandano> you get a nice pair of photocouples off any old ball mice
[1:46] <Blacklite> "Each goal has a laser pointed across it which is broken when the ball passes through. But there are a pair of arcade buttons in case of a scoring error."
[1:46] <Brandano> if the ball rolls through a tube it's the ideal place to detect it
[1:46] <Blacklite> yeah unfortunately it doesn't really go through a tube
[1:46] <Blacklite> it sorta just goes into a box at either end
[1:46] <Brandano> doesn't it roll down to the center?
[1:46] <Blacklite> nah
[1:47] <Brandano> Ah, ok. then a tilting floor
[1:47] <steve_rox> some IR beam break detection?
[1:47] <Blacklite> possible
[1:47] <Brandano> yep, that's why I was suggesting ripping apart an old mouse
[1:47] <steve_rox> like a IR led
[1:47] <Brandano> I'd use both. mechanical contacts bounce
[1:47] <steve_rox> i dunnos
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[1:48] <steve_rox> i have a ir lazor but it kinda burns stuff
[1:48] <Brandano> a spring loaded floor that will collapse under the ball weight and move a tap that will be detected by a photocouple
[1:48] <Blacklite> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lXXiI-W2saM
[1:48] <Blacklite> wow!
[1:48] <Brandano> s/tap/tab/
[1:49] <steve_rox> pressure pad could be cheap option
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[1:49] <Blacklite> yeah that's what i was thinking
[1:49] <Blacklite> i'd rather not modify the table too much if i can avoid it
[1:49] <Blacklite> or we could get a new table where the ball rolls down to the center
[1:49] <Blacklite> our table is pretty munted anyway
[1:50] <Brandano> I think it can be made to fit in the existing end boxes
[1:50] <Brandano> without having to modify the table at all
[1:51] <Blacklite> yeah
[1:51] <Blacklite> thing is
[1:51] <Blacklite> there is this rare scenario with our table
[1:52] <Blacklite> where the ball flies out the end and lands on the floor
[1:52] <Brandano> right, but that's not a goal
[1:52] <Blacklite> it is though
[1:52] <Brandano> unless you mean it goes through the goal first
[1:52] <Blacklite> because it goes into the goal but flies out the hole in the end
[1:52] <Blacklite> yeah
[1:52] <SpeedEvil> So fix the hole
[1:52] <Blacklite> http://media.liveauctiongroup.net/i/9872/10713387_1.jpg?v=8CDF31C7A886160
[1:53] <Blacklite> that's our model
[1:53] <Brandano> placing the collapsing floor box should take care of that too. Add some foam padding to the back, though
[1:54] <Brandano> it might be complex to reach inside, though
[1:55] <Blacklite> well
[1:55] <Blacklite> it was a kitset, so i think it can be easily unscrewed
[1:55] <Blacklite> the whole goal structure
[1:55] <Brandano> Oh, ok. then it's simple
[1:55] <Blacklite> and pulled out the bottom
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[1:57] <Brandano> the way I see it working is lile this: at the back of the goal you have a plane, at a 45 degrees angle, and padded with a little foam to dampen the hit. under that there's another plane, angled 54 degrees forward, so that the ball rolls down it toward the center to the table. This plane is held in place by a weak spring, the weight of the ball alone must be enough to tip it. but it has to move far enough before tripping the pto
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[1:58] <Brandano> too many typos
[1:59] <Blacklite> hah
[1:59] <Blacklite> interesting idea
[2:00] <Blacklite> the one thing i want to avoid is the design malfunctioning and somehow projecting the ball back into play
[2:00] <Blacklite> everyone here is attached to the foosball table and i wouldn't want to modify the gameplay too much
[2:01] <Brandano> that's the aim of the upper plane angled at 45 degrees. At whatever angle the ball enters the goal it would be thrown downwards
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[2:01] <Blacklite> http://digitalfoosball.com/
[2:01] <Brandano> you can add a small tune each time a goal is scored, or a cheering crowd...
[2:02] <Blacklite> yeah
[2:02] <Brandano> random football chants
[2:02] <Blacklite> we thought of getting a british-accent guy saying funny shit like 'well done!' lol
[2:02] <Brandano> Calls for the referee to go and take a hike...
[2:02] <Blacklite> haha
[2:02] <Blacklite> yeah, lots of possibilities :P
[2:03] <Blacklite> also maybe get them to automatically fill in our timesheets for when we're playing foos :D
[2:03] <Blacklite> our timesheet software has an api!!
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[2:04] <Brandano> "look, I see here that you have been half an hour on the table, and ONLY scored two goals. I am sure we can find a better use for your time..."
[2:04] <Blacklite> LOL
[2:05] <Blacklite> yeah, looks like those guys made their program open source too
[2:05] <Blacklite> https://github.com/sinnerschrader/digitalfoosball
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[2:05] <Brandano> Anyway, I am quite sure that interfacing a switch or a photocouple witht he GPIO pins ought to be a simple task
[2:06] <Brandano> a pressure pad or a piezoelectric sensor will require some buffering
[2:06] <Blacklite> yeah
[2:06] <Blacklite> i'm starting to like the idea of the photo sensor things they are using
[2:07] <Blacklite> http://www.modellbahnshop-lippe.com/produkt/Busch/44-7-0-29123-001007005-0-0-0-0-0-0-grp-gb-p-0/ein_produkt.html
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[2:08] <Brandano> beam break switch. you can find them as replacements for lift doors
[2:08] <Blacklite> yup
[2:08] <Brandano> generally you have emitter and sensor on one side, and a refractor on the other. Might not be fast enough
[2:08] <rigid> you can find them anywhere... old ball mice for example
[2:09] <Brandano> rigid: you mean photocouples
[2:09] <Brandano> Which is what I was suggesting in the first place
[2:09] <rigid> no
[2:10] <rigid> photocoupler are closed afaik... optocouplers they are also called... is that the same thing?
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[2:10] <rigid> i mean the same thing but seperated into two parts
[2:11] <SpeedEvil> Photointerruptor
[2:11] <rigid> what's wrong with a (laser)diode and a phototransistor?
[2:11] <Brandano> Right. though more modern ball mice have specifically designed phototransistors
[2:12] <Brandano> two of them in a package
[2:12] <Brandano> saves on an IR LED
[2:13] <Brandano> you can still use them, though
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[2:22] <pksato> http://linuxgizmos.com/tiny-cortex-a9-module-runs-linux-and-android/
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[2:23] <Tickle> I've got shairport running on my RPi (wheezy) and Airplay is showing up on my phone but not my MacBook Pro, anyone know why?
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[2:30] <ParkerR> Tickle: This may sound silly but try rebooting the Mac
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[2:44] <ebswift> hey, i tried a while back without success but things might have changed... can GPIO ports be controlled through a (python) web interface on the raspi? i can read GPIO values but there was a security layer preventing changing them from memory
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[2:50] <ebswift> hmm, webiopi maybe
[2:53] <SpeedEvil> yes you can control GPIO from python
[2:53] <ebswift> yeah, i have gpio being controlled by python, but last time when i was messing with it, some security layer prevented it being done over the web
[2:54] <ebswift> so i had to run up the control process separately before using the monitoring interface
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[3:00] <SpeedEvil> You possibly have wrong user issues
[3:01] <Chandler_01> Can anyone here help me accomplish communication with an ESC to Brushless motors from my Raspberry Pi
[3:01] <SpeedEvil> PWM is fairly easy to do
[3:02] <Chandler_01> I don't exactly know what that is.
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[3:02] <Chandler_01> What is it used for and all?
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[3:03] <SpeedEvil> Making the signals to control a servo
[3:03] <Chandler_01> But an ESC isn't a Servo :/
[3:03] <Chandler_01> It's a Speed Controller.
[3:03] <SpeedEvil> http://pythonhosted.org/RPIO/pwm_py.html
[3:03] <SpeedEvil> yes it is
[3:03] <Chandler_01> Really? >.>
[3:03] <SpeedEvil> It's a servo that goes round and round
[3:04] <SpeedEvil> It's electrically from the control point of view a servo
[3:04] <Chandler_01> Whats the "Definition" of a servo..
[3:04] <SpeedEvil> Just like the normal sort.
[3:04] <Chandler_01> I mean, I know what it is generically.
[3:04] <Chandler_01> But I didn't think a motor counts as one.
[3:04] <SpeedEvil> Originally, ESCs were servos with a large wirewound potentiometer in series with the motor
[3:04] <SpeedEvil> that got very, very hot
[3:05] <SpeedEvil> The servo turned the knob
[3:05] <Chandler_01> But there are no moving parts on an ESC
[3:05] <SpeedEvil> Now they are just the logical equivalent.
[3:05] <SpeedEvil> Quite
[3:05] <Chandler_01> ?
[3:05] <SpeedEvil> That bit is now electronic
[3:05] <Chandler_01> Hmm..
[3:06] <Chandler_01> Can you add me on skype? I am planning on building a quadcopter.
[3:06] <SpeedEvil> But from the input point of view it just works like any other servo - 'full left' is off, 'full right is on.
[3:06] <SpeedEvil> No.
[3:06] <Chandler_01> I just don't know what all to buy.
[3:06] <Chandler_01> Alright
[3:06] <SpeedEvil> No skype.
[3:06] <Chandler_01> Thats fine.
[3:06] <SpeedEvil> Here is more active about 5 hours ago
[3:06] <SpeedEvil> As it's 2AM in the UK.
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[3:07] <SpeedEvil> I'm going to sleep anyway - night. Good luck.
[3:07] <ricksl> I thought living on the east coast sucked
[3:09] <Chandler_01> I live on the East Coast :D
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[3:39] <nerdboy> oi
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[3:55] <alpha1125> trying to type in the command prompt… when I type ", it gives me the @ symbol… how do I fix this?
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[3:57] <pksato> alpha1125: buy a uk keyboard. or run raspi-config and set correct keyboard
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[4:01] <alpha1125> pksato thanks… it was set wrong. thanks for the direction
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[4:36] <alpha1125> anyone familiar with rtl8192CU wifi usb and raspberry pi?
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[4:40] <alpha1125> nm… just needed to reboot the pi
[4:40] <alpha1125> gah… newb move.
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[4:46] <jvboy> how do i estimate my power cost of my pi?
[4:46] <jvboy> i have a 5v power with 2000mAh
[4:47] <jvboy> what's the max power usage for that?
[4:47] <pksato> 2 hours
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[4:48] <jvboy> i meant plugged in
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[4:48] <pksato> power cost?
[4:48] <jvboy> yes
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[4:48] <pksato> from ac mains?
[4:49] <pksato> to eletricty company?
[4:49] <jvboy> yes
[4:49] <Blacklite> well you need to know how many amps it's actually using
[4:49] <pksato> 5*24*30
[4:50] <Blacklite> to figure out how many watt hours it uses
[4:50] <jvboy> resuming the question, i want to know the average of the cost in a month for a 24x7 pi in my house
[4:50] <Blacklite> yes
[4:50] <Blacklite> so as i said
[4:50] <jvboy> Blacklite suppose that it's using the max of my energy supply
[4:50] <jvboy> 2000mAh
[4:50] <Blacklite> well then
[4:51] <Blacklite> 2x5=10w
[4:51] <pksato> RPi uses arround 5W.
[4:51] <Blacklite> no it uses 5 volts
[4:51] <pksato> or 0.005kW
[4:52] <pksato> 0.005*24*30*cost_per_kW
[4:52] <pksato> kWh
[4:52] <Blacklite> it doesn't use 5W if it's using 2a
[4:52] <pksato> ok, 10W
[4:52] <jvboy> $0.86 a month
[4:52] <jvboy> is this right?
[4:53] <Blacklite> sounds about right lol
[4:53] <pksato> RPi only need 750mA.
[4:53] <Blacklite> yes but he asked based on using the max of his psu
[4:53] <Blacklite> but you're right
[4:53] <Blacklite> it shouldn't use anywhere near that
[4:53] <pksato> or 1A to simplify.
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[4:54] <jvboy> almost for free. very nice.
[4:54] <jvboy> thank you
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[4:55] <pksato> TV/PC/etc on standby probable cost more what rpi .
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[5:01] <nerdboy> so i fixed a few more things that broke on recent updates to yocto/oe-meta and i'm about to post a new pi image
[5:02] <nerdboy> plus i added some new package recipes so it's Lemony Fresh even
[5:02] <nerdboy> just about to boot it up...
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[6:45] <Dataless> can anyone direct me to where i'd slow down the NTP polling interval?
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[6:58] <nerdboy> ntp.conf on the server line(s) i believe...
[6:59] <mike_t> Dataless, minpoll/maxpoll -> http://www.eecis.udel.edu/~mills/ntp/html/confopt.html
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[7:03] <nerdboy> yeah, what he said
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[7:15] <Chandler_01> I need help figuring out some stuff for my quadcopter, anyone want to help?
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[7:35] <histo> Chandler_01: what?
[7:35] <Chandler_01> I'm calculating what battery to buy.
[7:35] <Chandler_01> for my quadcopter.
[7:36] <histo> Chandler_01: well what's your power consumption?
[7:37] <Dataless> thanks mike_t, NTP link was very helpful.
[7:37] <Chandler_01> I'm figuring that out.
[7:37] <histo> Chandler_01: well once you know that you'll be able to figure out how long a battery will last
[7:37] <Chandler_01> Just for the Motors it's 11v
[7:37] <Chandler_01> So 44v just for 4
[7:37] <mike_t> Dataless, it's the official documentation :)
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[7:38] <Chandler_01> Is 19A too close to 20A that I should get a 30A ESC?
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[7:40] <ParkerR> Chandler_01, What's up?
[7:40] <Chandler_01> I'm trying to find a PWM ESC for a motor.
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[7:46] <histo> Chandler_01: why are you using a pi for a quadracopter vs a microcontroller also?
[7:46] <Chandler_01> There is going to be this...
[7:46] <Chandler_01> one sec.
[7:46] <Chandler_01> Lemme get link to the microcontroller
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[7:47] <Chandler_01> http://www.adafruit.com/products/815
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[8:01] <Chandler_01> This is the MCU
[8:01] <Chandler_01> http://www.adafruit.com/products/815
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[8:10] <histo> Chandler_01: http://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-16-channel-servo-driver-with-raspberry-pi/overview
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[9:59] <fongseiyuc> Hi. I was here yesterday on the Issue of not getting audio support on local audio interface with ogg123 etc. i just wanted to let you know that i solved it with help from this Documentation:
[10:00] <fongseiyuc> http://cagewebdev.com/index.php/raspberry-pi-getting-audio-working/
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[10:06] <nerdboy> that gets answered a lot around here...
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[10:46] <gordonDrogon> morning pi peeps.
[10:46] <Ben64> the pi seems to freeze when i do stuff in scratch
[10:47] <gordonDrogon> don't scratch it then... :)
[10:47] <ShorTie> mornin
[10:47] <FR^2> hi gordon
[10:48] <histo> Chandler_01: http://code.google.com/p/owenquad/
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[10:50] <jn__> gordonDrogon++;
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[10:53] <gordonDrogon> jn__, Im old enough!
[10:53] <jn__> Ben64: try debugging it further. does SSH still work when it's "frozen"? does it happen with other programs, too? are you hitting swap maybe :)
[10:53] <jn__> gordonDrogon: haha! never thought of it like that
[10:54] * jn__ tried to increment gordonDrogon's karma
[10:54] <jn__> s/maybe :)/maybe?/
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[10:58] <ShorTie> [01:38] <Chandler_01> Just for the Motors it's 11v
[10:58] <ShorTie> [01:39] <Chandler_01> So 44v just for 4
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[10:58] <ShorTie> that is not how it works
[10:58] <ShorTie> the voltage will stay the same
[10:58] <ShorTie> the current will be 4x
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[10:59] <jn__> [ and power consumption ("wattage") is voltage multiplied by current ]
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[11:00] <ShorTie> i like pie
[11:00] <gordonDrogon> Ye canny change the laws of Ohm ..
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[11:15] <Ben64> jn__: ssh doesn't work, i never really use the gui, memory wasn't full, cpu was at 100% though
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[11:28] <gordonDrogon> 100% cpu shouldn't make it appeare to be frozen - just slow.
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[11:30] <mike_t> gordonDrogon, if it RT process - frozen
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[11:31] <gordonDrogon> sure, but I wouldn't expect scratch to do that.
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[11:31] <gordonDrogon> lots of people are using scratch on the Pi too.
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[11:59] <gordonDrogon> but this morning I'm going to be doing some cooking instead :)
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[12:49] <ozzzy> morning my droogs
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[12:52] * gordonDrogon observes just 7 minutes of morning left...
[12:53] * ozzzy claims the prize for 'best eyeball setup of a massive telescope mount'
[12:53] <ozzzy> http://www.togastro.com/ozzzy/images/polaris.png
[12:53] <ozzzy> did the polar alignment last night and my setup was only 1deg 0min 34sec off the true pole
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[13:11] <LousyJohnny> Hi ! What's your favorite / cheaper site to order raspberries ? ( with cheap expedition fees if possible, i'm in the Indian Ocean )
[13:12] <steve_rox> you must be a good swimmer
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[13:14] <LousyJohnny> yeah, and sharks fear me
[13:14] <steve_rox> :-D
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[13:15] <markedathome> anyone know how to resync audio to video with omxplayer and mp4 files?
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[13:20] <steve_rox> ya loose sound sync with the vid?
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[13:24] <markedathome> video is about a second ahead of the audio from the start, and is consistent in delay
[13:24] <markedathome> file plays fine under vlc 2.04 on windows
[13:25] <steve_rox> thats odd
[13:25] <steve_rox> ive never had any sound sync issues myself
[13:26] <Jck_true> Seem to have caught some loose remarks in here that older versions of OMXplayer worked better
[13:26] <Jck_true> (But unsure if that was only rtsp:// streams
[13:27] <markedathome> I haven't with most of the media files that I've played with. However it is being pulled off a cifs network share. (just copying it now to see if it is remote playing)
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[13:33] <rigid> argh... screen should come preinstalled on raspbian
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[15:06] <Davespice> rigid: yeah that is usually the first thing I always install, you can pop over to #raspbian and suggest it there maybe?
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[15:09] <gitterrost4> Hi, I have Arch installed on a 4GB SD-Card. I now own a 16GB SD-Card and would like to not reinstall the system. I tried dd and the RPi boots, but the partition table seems crooked.
[15:10] <gitterrost4> btw: I would like my root partition to occupy most of the sd-card
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[15:12] <Mortvert> gitterrost4, read up on how to make partition expand
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[15:13] <gitterrost4> Mortvert: I generally know that. But fdisk doesn't even show one of the partitions. One sec, I'll post the output really quick
[15:14] <rigid> Davespice: done...
[15:14] <Mortvert> gitterrost4, let me guess
[15:14] <Mortvert> you didn't take /dev/sdx for dd
[15:14] <gitterrost4> yes, I did
[15:14] <Mortvert> you took /dev/sdx[0-9]
[15:15] <Mortvert> you sure?
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[15:15] <gitterrost4> Mortvert: dd if=raspi.img of=/dev/sdb
[15:15] <gitterrost4> I am sure
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[15:17] <gitterrost4> Mortvert: Here's the output from mount and fdisk (and an ls /dev/mmc*): http://pastebin.com/yJ38tb71
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[15:17] <Mortvert> gitterrost4, did you dd the 4gig image back from the entire card?
[15:18] <Mortvert> if=/dev/sdx of=/whatever/image
[15:18] <gitterrost4> Apparently yes
[15:18] <gitterrost4> scratch the apparently
[15:18] <muxe> Hey Folks, is there any way to use the Camera Board with Raspbian as a user without sudo? Like adding the user to some group? As a user I only get "* failed to open vchiq instance". Thanks!
[15:18] <gitterrost4> And the partitioning scheme seems to be the same on the original card
[15:18] <Mortvert> I think you'd be better off asking ##arch, gitterrost4
[15:18] <Mortvert> i use raspbian myself so ergh
[15:19] <gitterrost4> fdisk shows sda1, sda2 and sda5, but mount shows sda6 also
[15:19] <gitterrost4> maybe it helps, If I tell you, that I installed it using the NOOBS image
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[15:36] <Chetic> can I power the pi with 4 serially connected AAA batteries?
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[15:37] <SpeedEvil> Chetic: No
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[15:38] <Chetic> it needs to be 5v dead-on? what are the limits?
[15:38] <SpeedEvil> Chetic: It basically needs 5.5 to 4.5V or so. AAA batteries will start out at a bit over 6
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[15:38] <Chetic> alright, how do I get them down to 5v?
[15:38] <Chetic> <-no electrical experience or education
[15:38] <piney_> rechargable batteries are ~1.2 each, they might work
[15:38] <Encrypt> Have a look on the net, other users did it
[15:39] <SpeedEvil> Chetic: you really want a regulator.
[15:39] <SpeedEvil> Chetic: what are you trying to do?
[15:41] <Chetic> high-altitude balloon project
[15:41] <Chetic> so I want to use energizer ultimate lithium
[15:41] <SpeedEvil> Chetic: ##highaltitude
[15:41] <SpeedEvil> Several people have flown Pis
[15:41] <SpeedEvil> With cameras even
[15:41] <Chetic> that's the plan
[15:41] <SpeedEvil> Pi cameras, that is.
[15:41] <SpeedEvil> Chetic: are you in the UK?>
[15:41] <Chetic> wish I could get one yesterday
[15:41] <Chetic> no, Sweden
[15:42] <SpeedEvil> I think there are some people involved in sweden - ask ove rhtere
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[15:43] <Encrypt> Chetic, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=41929
[15:43] <Encrypt> Chetic, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=19341
[15:43] <Encrypt> Chetic, http://www.dingleberrypi.com/2013/05/battery-powered-raspberry-pi/
[15:43] <Encrypt> Have fun! :)
[15:44] <SpeedEvil> The first isn't relevant
[15:44] * IT_Sean blinks
[15:44] <Chetic> already am, Encrypt!
[15:44] <Chetic> appreciate it
[15:45] <SpeedEvil> Anyway - ##highaltitude - people have actually done this, and can help
[15:45] <SpeedEvil> 139 people in there ATM
[15:45] <Encrypt> By the way: https://www.adafruit.com/products/962
[15:45] <Encrypt> Apparently for the Raspberry Pi.K..
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[15:46] <Chetic> SpeedEvil: I am there already :p
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[15:46] <SpeedEvil> ah
[15:46] <gitterrost4> Mhm, apparently noone in arch can help me. I also don't believe, the partitioning scheme of the sdcard is an arch specific problem.
[15:47] <Encrypt> Chetic, Or even that: http://www.raspberrypi-spy.co.uk/2013/02/running-a-raspberry-pi-from-6-aa-batteries/
[15:47] <Encrypt> There are plenty of sites explaining how to run the Raspberry Pi from batteries...
[15:48] <Davespice> yeah the ubec is probably a safe option
[15:48] <Davespice> have you seen these kits for a switch mode power supply that you solder together yourself?
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[15:49] <Davespice> they're also quite good, and you learn a bit about electronics in the process :)
[15:50] <Davespice> -> http://pihw.wordpress.com/2013/01/07/switched-mode-power-supply-hobbyeducation-kit/
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[15:55] <Brandano> IIRC there's also ready made adjustable DC-DC converters
[15:56] <Brandano> not sure about the quality of the output voltage.
[15:56] <systemG3000> SMPS design is made easy if you use a good controller IC
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[15:59] <Brandano> internet has so many nice toys... http://www.aliexpress.com/item/3V-to-5V-USB-Output-Boost-Module-DC-to-DC-Step-Up-Converter-DIY-Mobile-Power/522325414.html
[16:00] <Brandano> that's specifically for 1s li-ion cell
[16:00] <Encrypt> :D
[16:01] <Brandano> come to that, pretty much any "recharge pack" will have something similar on board
[16:02] <Brandano> this sort of thing: http://www.amazon.com/Duracell-Instant-Charger-Includes-Universal/dp/B002FU6KF2
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[16:17] <k_sze> Hi guys, would somebody be able to recommend a USB fax modem that is well supported in Raspian?
[16:17] <k_sze> I would like to rig up a little fax server using Hylafax.
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[16:18] <Brandano> ols usb v90 modem... it might be hard to find an USB2 one
[16:18] <Brandano> *old
[16:18] <Brandano> probably easier to get a hold of a serial modem and a serial to usb adapter
[16:19] <Brandano> and easier to set up as well, I bet
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[16:25] <Firehopper> watch out on newer modems.. they are usually win modems.. need special drivers on the pc side..
[16:25] <Firehopper> stick with say a v92 serial modem.
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[16:25] <Firehopper> usrobotics courier or something like that
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[16:30] <k_sze> How about this one? http://www.usr.com/products/modem/modem-product.asp?sku=USR5637
[16:30] <k_sze> This is not a WinModem, I suppose?
[16:31] <maxinux> lol
[16:31] <maxinux> it says linux in the list
[16:31] <maxinux> but .. modems.. really ? heheh
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[16:32] <Brandano> maxinux: if you want to make a fax gateway it's the only option.
[16:32] <maxinux> efax.com
[16:32] <Brandano> There's even people that still writes stuff by hand, i am told
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[16:33] <Brandano> well, there's tons of these services. but I guess k_sze wants to set that sort of thing up
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[16:34] <k_sze> I think a Raspberry Pi fax server is cheaper in the long run.
[16:35] <k_sze> And it gives me an excuse to finally buy a Raspberry Pi and hack with it.
[16:35] <maxinux> fair
[16:35] <maxinux> i just hate pots... soo anoying
[16:35] <linuxstb> You still need to pay for the phone line rental though. Perhaps a virtual fax number would be cheaper than a real phone line.
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[16:36] <Mystique> hey all
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[16:36] <Brandano> k_sze: I'd check the used pc shops for an old serial modem. any kind will do, even a 14.4kbps one as far as fax is concerned. and get an usb to serial adapter, that can then be re-used for other projects
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[16:37] <Mystique> sitting here with a raspberry pi for the first time trying to get USB console going..
[16:37] <Mystique> how do I confirm what the pinouts are..
[16:37] <Mystique> running a fedora 18 (fwiw) and it of course sees the /dev/ttyUSB but cu can not connect to it..
[16:37] <Mystique> (open to suggestions..)
[16:37] <k_sze> Brandano: good call.
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[16:38] <systemG3000> Mystique: does access to /dev/ttyUSB work with root?
[16:38] <Brandano> Mystique: this is with the adafruit adapter: http://www.adafruit.com/index.php?main_page=popup_image_additional&pID=954&pic=1&products_image_large_additional=images/large/954close_LRG.jpg
[16:38] <Mystique> trying to confirm the pinouts more or less..
[16:38] <Mystique> (ty) that looks like it will be useful..
[16:38] <k_sze> And I don't need a dedicated phone line because I really don't have a high volume.
[16:39] <Brandano> red and black should match. the other two might have different colors, but swapping them around shouldn't burn anything
[16:39] <Brandano> they are both data lines
[16:39] <Mystique> that is the exact image I used ;)
[16:39] <Mystique> cu -l /dev/ttyUSB0 -s 9600
[16:39] <Mystique> cu: /dev/ttyUSB0: Line in usecu -l /dev/ttyUSB0 -s 9600
[16:39] <Mystique> cu: /dev/ttyUSB0: Line in use
[16:39] <Mystique> (erm) paste issue.. (chromebox..)
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[16:40] <Mystique> assuming its a uucp owner issue maybe..
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[16:42] <Mystique> port owner problem..
[16:42] <Mystique> 9600 not working neither is 115200..
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[16:44] <donta> are there any good tuts for setting up ZNC on a raspberrypi?
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[16:45] <Brandano> Mystique: perhaps relevant? http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=15877
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[16:53] <JakeSays> so before i can use parted on a usb hdd, do i need to first mount it?
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[16:54] <Brandano> JakeSays: nope
[16:55] <Brandano> you can only mount a drive if it has a filesystem
[16:55] <JakeSays> Brandano: didnt think so.
[16:55] <Brandano> perhaps you mean gparted
[16:55] <Brandano> that will unmount it before making changes
[16:55] <JakeSays> Brandano: well, i'm trying to use a drive from a mac laptop
[16:55] <JakeSays> and i want to reformat it
[16:55] <JakeSays> as ext4
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[16:56] <Brandano> if you don't mind losing the data... just check what device it is
[16:56] <JakeSays> Brandano: i dont mind
[16:57] <Brandano> I thnk it will be /dev/sdb or something. check dmesg as you plug it in
[16:57] <JakeSays> it shows up in lsusb, and i can see from log/messages that its located at sda
[16:57] <JakeSays> ohh dev. i always forget dev. sheesh
[16:57] <Brandano> make sure it's not the SDD card
[16:57] <Brandano> err, the SD card
[16:58] <Brandano> well, in the worst of cases you'll have to reinstall the OS
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[16:58] <JakeSays> it shows sda as being 160gb.. definitely not the sd card
[16:58] <Brandano> or a very expensive one
[16:58] <IT_Sean> HAHA!
[16:58] <IT_Sean> That would be a very expensive SD card. :p
[16:58] <chithead> cat /proc/partitions
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[16:59] <Brandano> I have a 64 Gb USB stick
[16:59] * IT_Sean flicks a 16mb SD card at Brandano
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[16:59] <Brandano> we are getting there
[16:59] <JakeSays> chithead: it show up there
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[16:59] <chithead> shows up as...?
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[17:00] <Brandano> IT_Sean: I did get my eth0 adapter working in the end
[17:00] <IT_Sean> awesome.
[17:00] <Brandano> it was an hardware failure. Just not of the RPI :)
[17:00] <IT_Sean> Oh?
[17:00] <JakeSays> chithead: http://pastie.org/8042928
[17:00] * IT_Sean needs to get his Pi back on the network
[17:00] <Brandano> took a bit of crawling, a fair deal of swearing and a crimping tool to fix
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[17:01] <Brandano> the device was seeing the switch... the switch wasn't seeing the network. Hwence no dropped packets, but no dhcp servers to reach
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[17:02] <chithead> 179 0 15558144 mmcblk0 << that is your sd card
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[17:02] <JakeSays> right
[17:02] <JakeSays> so why won't parted --list sda show the partitions?
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[17:03] <JakeSays> or just parted --list
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[17:04] <Brandano> JakeSays: tried it with /dev/sda ?
[17:04] <JakeSays> bah
[17:04] <JakeSays> i keep forgetting sudo
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[17:04] <JakeSays> sudo parted --list works fine
[17:04] * Brandano wishes he could forget sudo
[17:04] <SpeedEvil> sudo bash
[17:04] <SpeedEvil> Job done
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[17:05] <Brandano> in Italian "sudo" means "I sweat". And it's getting fairly hot here
[17:05] * linuxstb wonders why the pi user isn't in the "floppy" group - it's in almost everything else
[17:05] <JakeSays> Brandano: LOL
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[17:05] <SpeedEvil> Brandano: I solve that problem quite easily.
[17:05] <SpeedEvil> Brandano: I live in scotland.
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[17:05] <Brandano> Never been there, actually. Probably worth a trip someday
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[17:06] <Brandano> I used to live in London, though
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[17:07] <gordonDrogon> SpeedEvil, what part?
[17:07] <JakeSays> hmm. i s'pose there's no need to re-partition
[17:07] <Brandano> different lpaces in different times. South kensington, then Herne Hill, and finally Stamford Bridge
[17:07] <SpeedEvil> Brandano: Come to scotland, experience our take on your national cuisine! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deep-fried_pizza
[17:07] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: Fire
[17:07] <SpeedEvil> Fife
[17:08] <Brandano> SpeedEvil: nothing can be worse than ham and pineapple
[17:08] <Brandano> except perhaps spaghetti used as a side dish
[17:08] <Marcel|HSD> Hi everyone! I'm using raspbmc and get distortion on the analog audio channel, seems related to network traffic or display activity (more activity, more noise). Is this just a matter of getting a better (shielded) cable (i tried 2 with same result) or is this an issue seen before?
[17:08] <JakeSays> so is partition alignment that big of a deal?
[17:09] <Brandano> Marcel|HSD: possibly the monitor is feeding back noise on the cable?
[17:09] <SpeedEvil> JakeSays: yes, it's important. You have to pick the right one - Lawful, Neutral, or Chaotic.
[17:10] <JakeSays> SpeedEvil: lol :p
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[17:10] <gordonDrogon> SpeedEvil, firre fire, my Kingdom for a fire :)
[17:11] <gordonDrogon> SpeedEvil, originally from Clackmannannannannannannannshire ...
[17:11] <Brandano> the day that AI's will start to play D&D we'll be screwed
[17:12] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: :)
[17:14] <Brandano> Marcel|HSD: I have noticed that on several devices a buzz seems to creep in on the audio channel when there aer large white aeras on a CRT screen. I think that a CRT monitor will be the most likely source of RF noise
[17:14] <Brandano> OTOH on my pi I am not currently getting any audio at all, but I have not played it it
[17:14] <Brandano> *yet
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[17:20] <gordonDrogon> well Fritzing has failed me again - now looking at Eagle.
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[17:30] <gazzwi86> what is the maximum number of LEDs i could light up via a Pi. I have a few MCP23017 chips, but I was wondering if anyone could suggest useful circuits I could use to maximise the number I could light up
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[17:30] <gazzwi86> According to this (http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=20463) i could light a max of 12
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[17:31] <gazzwi86> I basically want to create a blue peter style, lights to total board
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[17:34] <gordonDrogon> gazzwi86, it's more power dependant than anything else - get a good enough independant way to power the LEDs an it's millions.
[17:35] <IT_Sean> ^ wot 'e said
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[17:35] <gordonDrogon> gazzwi86, http://unicorn.drogon.net/pi17leds.jpg
[17:35] <gordonDrogon> is slightly pushing it a little, however ...
[17:36] <Marcel|HSD> Brandano: monitor is not it, pi is connected to a beamer which is 4 meters away or so
[17:36] <gazzwi86> gordonDrogon: well how would I work out how many are to be lit from a circuitry perspective. I only know how to do it as a per digital output pin
[17:36] <gordonDrogon> gazzwi86, how many LEDs do you need?
[17:37] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_eSwq1ewsU
[17:37] <gazzwi86> well I have 11 characters that they want to light up incrementally, so potential half a L is light. maybe 33
[17:38] <gordonDrogon> 33 LEDs - 2 x mcp23x17's plus one.
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[17:38] <gazzwi86> Saw Patrick in Merchant of Venice, the mans aGOD
[17:38] <Brandano> Marcel|HSD: perhaps the crosstalk is in the beamer
[17:39] <Marcel|HSD> Brandano: just tried without beamer, same problem, it seems proportional SD / net activity
[17:40] <gazzwi86> gordonDrogon: how could I use multiple mcp23's? Sorry to be a n00b
[17:40] <Armand> gazzwi86: Patrick Stewart ?
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[17:40] <gazzwi86> Armand: indeed
[17:40] <Armand> Have you seen Dune yet? :/
[17:40] <Marcel|HSD> Brandano: also, when starting up, everything is fine, the noise just starts after playing a movie/stream
[17:41] <gazzwi86> Armand: no
[17:41] <Armand> Don't....
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[17:41] <Armand> >_<
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[17:41] <gazzwi86> haha
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[17:41] <Armand> He was great in Moby Dick, awful in Dune.. O.o
[17:42] <Armand> But, Dune was a dire film.
[17:42] <gordonDrogon> gazzwi86, you connect them to the I2C bus (mcp23017) or to the SPI bus (mcp23s17) and set the address inputs as appropriate.
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[17:42] <gordonDrogon> gazzwi86, or you buy one of these: http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/quick2wire-interface-board-kit-p-1170.html and 2 of these: http://www.skpang.co.uk/catalog/quick2wire-i2c-port-expander-board-kit-p-1171.html
[17:43] <JakeSays> how do i give user pi write permission on a mount point?
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[17:43] <gordonDrogon> gazzwi86, but if you can solder then you can make your own easilly.
[17:43] <gordonDrogon> JakeSays, you use the 'user' mount option in /etc/fstab
[17:43] <JakeSays> oh right
[17:44] <gazzwi86> gordonDrogon: so I can power 2 off the I2C and SPI? I thought I could only use one as the required pins only had one. I presume it would be a programatic solution
[17:44] <gordonDrogon> gazzwi86, you can connect 8 off I2C or 16 off the SPI bus.
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[17:45] * Brandano rather likes dune
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[17:46] <JakeSays> gordonDrogon: that didnt seem to help
[17:46] <Brandano> it was cut brutally, though. And Paul Atreides was supposed to be 15 or so
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[17:46] <JakeSays> this is my fstab entry: LABEL=pidrive /media/ext ext4 defaults,nofail,user 0 2
[17:46] <gordonDrogon> JakeSays, with the user option, a non-root user can issue the mount command.
[17:46] <gazzwi86> gordonDrogon: I'll have to try the multiple mcp's. I don't suppose there is anywhere for documentation on how to do that? I'm not particularly that familiar with talking to chips
[17:47] <ant_thomas> Am I wrong in thinking that an optocoupler should be able to act as a switch and for low voltages could be used in place of a relay?
[17:47] <gazzwi86> I just follow tutorials
[17:47] <JakeSays> gordonDrogon: ah so that won't help if its auto mounted then
[17:47] <Brandano> ant_thomas: should act like a transistor
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[17:47] <steve_rox> there goes the network again
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[17:48] <Brandano> ant_thomas: better run it through a buffer too. also, it won't quite carry much current
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[17:49] <ant_thomas> Brandano: Thanks
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[17:49] <gordonDrogon> that's not a tutorial, but the chip on the right is an mcp23017 connected to the Pi via I2c
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[17:50] <Brandano> ant_thomas: there's solid state relays that you can drive through an optocoupler to separate the logic and power stages of your circuit
[17:50] <ant_thomas> I seem to be able to turn off my device (a camera with wires across the power button) using an optocoupler but not turn it on. It works great for on/off with a cheap relay
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[17:50] <Brandano> but don't use optocouplers for anything other than logic level signals, really
[17:50] <gordonDrogon> JakeSays, chown foobar /media/ext then
[17:50] <ant_thomas> I see, thanks for the advice
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[17:53] <JakeSays> gordonDrogon: that worked. thanks!
[17:54] <ant_thomas> Do you think a relay is the best/easiest/cheapest option for what I want? A simple switch giving the ability to close a circuit for a moment. If so, then I guess I don't need to mess anymore!
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[17:54] <JakeSays> ant_thomas: no, not a relay.
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[17:54] <JakeSays> ant_thomas: you'll fry yer pi if you're not careful
[17:54] <ant_thomas> How so?
[17:54] <JakeSays> ant_thomas: use a transistor
[17:55] <JakeSays> ant_thomas: when the relay is switched off the electromagnetic field generated around it will collapse and current will flow back in to the pi. you'll need to protect it with a diode
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[17:56] <Brandano> JakeSays: well, true, if the pi is driving the relay
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[17:57] <JakeSays> Brandano: i assumed thats what he was trying tod o, but i didnt read all the way back
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[17:57] <Brandano> I am not sure either
[17:57] <Brandano> ant_thomas: are you trying to set up a time lapse capture?
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[17:57] <Brandano> using the pi to control the camera?
[17:58] <ant_thomas> Do the cheap Arduino relay boards with optocoupler built in usually offer the protection required?
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[17:58] <JakeSays> ant_thomas: i would imagine so
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[17:59] <JakeSays> gordonDrogon: hey i picked up one of these yesterday. they were on clearance at radioshack: http://www.velleman.eu/products/view/?country=be&lang=en&id=351346
[17:59] <Brandano> ant_thomas: the protection is just a beefy enough diode across the relay coil terminals
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[18:00] <ant_thomas> Not time lapse. I already have a few Canon cameras running CHDK hooked up to RPis using the rpi version of chdkptp for taking photos either as a webcam style system (but higher quality photos) or as a camera for motion detection photos. I've been using the cheap relay boards avaiable to turn the cameras on/off when required and I was wondering if the on/off part could be done with something
[18:00] <ant_thomas> a bit smaller and silent.
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[18:01] <ant_thomas> I have an optocoupler and have tried that but it won't turn the camera on, but it will turn it off.
[18:01] <JakeSays> ant_thomas: yeah a simple transistor
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[18:01] <Brandano> ant_thomas: you'll also need a transistor to source enough current to drive a relay. Here's anice schematic: http://www.susa.net/wordpress/2012/06/raspberry-pi-relay-using-gpio/
[18:01] <JakeSays> ant_thomas: i'm using one to turn on/off a small motor
[18:02] <ant_thomas> Brandano: I've already got a few relays working fine
[18:02] <JakeSays> ant_thomas: you're living on borrowed time
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[18:03] <ant_thomas> JakeSays: I'll look into a transistor. How much borrowed time? I'm using the arduino style relay boards and have been for at least 6 months 24/7
[18:04] <Brandano> you can use that same transistor setup to drive a 5v load, as long as it uses a couple of hundred ma max
[18:04] <JakeSays> ant_thomas: 6 months + 1 day. lol. i have no idea.
[18:04] <Brandano> ant_thomas: probably the board already has the driving transistors and flywheel diodes on
[18:05] <Brandano> it is directly driven by the arduino gpio, right?
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[18:06] <gordonDrogon> JakeSays, looks intersting - if you can talk to it!
[18:06] <JakeSays> gordonDrogon: i found a raspi lib on github :)
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[18:07] <ant_thomas> The relays are driven by the RPi GPIO. This type of relay is what I've been using without any issues...yet https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/14641356/rpi/relay2.JPG
[18:07] <JakeSays> ant_thomas: looks like that board has protection built in
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[18:09] <ant_thomas> Well it turns out an optocoupler does what I want. I was leaving it "on" for too long
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[18:12] <Brandano> JakeSays: if you don't want to dig down into the USB protocol these boards look interesting: http://stores.ebay.it/RobotStore-Italia/Controllo-Motori-/_i.html?_fsub=17704294&_sid=92310231&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322
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[18:13] <Brandano> the servo drivers, I mean. they appear as a serial device over USB
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[18:20] <gordonDrogon> ant_thomas, just make sure the driver on that board is taking under 10mA. Some the opto isolated ones run to more than that...
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[18:24] <ant_thomas> gordonDrogon: the board apparently requires 77mA
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[19:00] <gordonDrogon> ant_thomas, that'll mostly be for the relay coil - which will come off the 5v supply.
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> ant_thomas, got a link to a datasheet for that little board?
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> just electrocuted myself. first time for years. quite a jolt too. I do not recommend working on 1U servers which have an open PSU when its plugged in.
[19:01] <SpeedEvil> congrats.
[19:02] <steve_rox> 240v?
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[19:05] <gordonDrogon> not sure what I touched though, possibly post rectifier.
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[19:06] <ripplebit> guys how do i set my SD card up?
[19:06] <ant_thomas> gordonDrogon: http://bit.ly/11N0vz2 that's ebay link for one of the similar ones. I'll have a look for a datasheet. I posted about a few of these on the forums a while back http://bit.ly/16nuqih various different relay boards seem to work slightly differently
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[19:09] <ripplebit> can someone give me a hand setting up my SD card?
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[19:12] <gordonDrogon> Doesn't really say.
[19:12] <ant_thomas> ripplebit: how much have you managed for setting it up?
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[19:13] <ripplebit> ant_thomas: honestly im new to linux (ubuntu) and the raspberry pi, no nothing at the moment. just got the card and the device at the moment
[19:14] <ant_thomas> ripplebit: you can easily setup the card on windows if you wish
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[19:15] <ripplebit> i'm trying to familiarize myself with linux, so i got rid of windows
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[19:17] <JakeSays> i wonder if this usb hdd would be faster than the sd card
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[19:20] <HonkeyGenius> JakeSays, doubtful.
[19:21] <JakeSays> HonkeyGenius: that sucks.
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[19:21] <raspberrypilover> hey all, new here
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[19:24] <shiftplusone> Hello
[19:25] <IT_Sean> ahoy!
[19:25] <HonkeyGenius> JakeSays, actually you may be interested to hear that i am probably wrong. http://elinux.org/RPi_Adding_USB_Drives
[19:28] <raspberrypilover> I'm investigating installing either USB thumb drive or USB hard drive on a RPi - trying to set one up as web server and mail server. Also want to use another RPi as NAS
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[19:28] <IT_Sean> You'll need a powered hub or an externally powered drive to attach a hard drive
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[19:28] <HonkeyGenius> raspberrypilover, well have a look at the link i just posted
[19:29] <shiftplusone> raspberrypilover, ethernet goes through USB, so your bandwidth is going to be very limited if you're going to use it as NAS.
[19:29] <raspberrypilover> was just checking out that link - very useful. Didn't see it in my Google searches - has it only gone up on elinux recently?
[19:30] <raspberrypilover> was chatting on the RPi forums yesterday and was told I could only expect 5MB/s transfer rate. Not great, but still....
[19:30] <HonkeyGenius> i just found it through a google search
[19:30] <HonkeyGenius> also for easy and light web server setup you might try http://www.everydaylinuxuser.com/2013/06/setting-up-personal-web-server-on.html
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[19:32] <raspberrypilover> great article - but uses lighttp - I want to use Apache in particular.
[19:33] <HonkeyGenius> yah i am more aquainted with apache myself, but that guide worked and it was easy to follow
[19:34] <raspberrypilover> do you mean just substitute the lighttp stuff with apache stuff and should be good to follow?
[19:34] <raspberrypilover> does anyone have experience of RPi as mail server?
[19:34] <m8> conoscete qualche soluzione hardware\software per realizzare un piccolo thin client?
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[19:36] <HonkeyGenius> raspberrypilover, i do not know for sure if you could use the same tutorial w/ apache instead. i am sure that there are other tutorials for apache.
[19:36] <raspberrypilover> does anyone attend Raspberry Jams?
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[19:37] <raspberrypilover> HonkeyGenius - makes sense. I did get Apache working fine on the RPi - but had massive problems installing Wordpress. I want to host several different Wordpress sites, each for a separate web domain name. Had all the aliases working great. Wordpress just didn't want to play ball upon installation
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[19:38] <HonkeyGenius> unfortunately for you i know nothing of wordpress. :/
[19:39] <raspberrypilover> HonkeyGenius it was very kind of you to offer your expertise on Apache! :)
[19:39] <HonkeyGenius> along with apache do you have php and mysql setup and working?
[19:40] <HonkeyGenius> that's what says on the wordpress requirements page
[19:40] <raspberrypilover> HonkeyGenius - oh yes. Everything worked. Upon installing Wordpress I loaded the webpage for the first time to set a password (memory fails me on details right now) and it refused to let me progress.
[19:40] <mpmc> Just use Nginx :)
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[19:41] <Mortvert> also, don't use wordpress
[19:41] <Mortvert> it's full of holes
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[19:41] <raspberrypilover> Could it be because i was logging into the machine from the 'safe' side of my DMZ, and because the web server is in the DMZ it would allow the web page login to go smoothly?
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[19:41] <raspberrypilover> Mortvert -just Googling Nginx
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[19:44] <raspberrypilover> Mortvert - I'm very much a noob novice - but Nginx looks quite configurable. What more info on the security holes in wordpress can you talk about?
[19:45] <raspberrypilover> Mortvert, in fact what is the CMS called on Nginx?
[19:45] <Mortvert> nginx is a http server
[19:45] <Mortvert> nothing else
[19:45] <raspberrypilover> oh OK
[19:45] <Mortvert> also, wordpress is a free shell for anyone that finds whichever hole that hasn't been patched yet
[19:46] <raspberrypilover> Mortvert, do you use a particular CMS at all?
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[19:46] <Mortvert> nop
[19:46] <raspberrypilover> very concerned about security
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[19:47] <raspberrypilover> anyone use the RPi as a VPN server?
[19:47] <raspberrypilover> I want a VPN that is my own - i.e. not a commercial paid for service - that I can just use for wireless appliances inside the home
[19:48] <HonkeyGenius> isn't that what a LAN does?
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[19:49] <raspberrypilover> HonkeyGenius - do you my wifi router from the ISP?
[19:49] <raspberrypilover> *mean*
[19:49] <raspberrypilover> I want one just to keep safe wireless connections inside of the house
[19:50] <raspberrypilover> in case my internet goes down and I can't log into the commercial VPN services I use
[19:50] <raspberrypilover> I'm trying to get paranoid about domestic cyber security
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[19:54] <HonkeyGenius> the wireless router provided by your isp, are you able to connect computers to it at will or do you need permission from the isp?
[19:54] <HonkeyGenius> i don't know i always use my own router
[19:54] <raspberrypilover> I can connect any wireless device at will to it
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[19:55] <HonkeyGenius> ok then. if your internet goes down then you already have an internal network in your house.
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[19:56] <raspberrypilover> but there is no VPN like PPTP, or OpenVPN protecting the signals between the wifi router and the appliance. My neighbours might be doing man-in-the-middle or some such exploit
[19:56] <HonkeyGenius> VPN's are used to connect one computer to an external network (over the internet) to an other network as if it was connected locally.
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[19:56] <raspberrypilover> so what ought someone use to protect against interception of the contents of their wireless activity?
[19:57] <HonkeyGenius> oh well that is beyond my knowledge then.
[19:57] <HonkeyGenius> are you using encryption on the wireless network?
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[19:57] <IT_Sean> Do you have WPA enabled?
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[19:58] <HonkeyGenius> exactly
[19:58] <raspberrypilover> of course. I always switch on the most sophisticated encryption that comes free. I just want to scramble the contents of the encrypted connection again
[19:59] <HonkeyGenius> double encryption?! 0.o
[19:59] <raspberrypilover> I mean, if my neighbour intercepted enough traffic she might just brute force the data captured, get the WPA key and log on - have access to whatever isn't nailed down on my network
[20:00] <HonkeyGenius> brute force 128-bit encryption?
[20:00] <raspberrypilover> it is not difficult to crack a WPA2 encryption key if you transmit enough data - if I stream a HD movie or two, that's enough to crack a WPA2 key
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[20:01] <IT_Sean> raspberrypilover: I assure you, you are nowhere near interesting enough for anyone to give a toss about. SPA is more than sufficient to secure a private wireless LAN.
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[20:01] <IT_Sean> *WPA
[20:02] <pksato> WPA2 enterprise is not secure for you?
[20:02] <raspberrypilover> But that said - I'd like to to setup a OpenVPN server to connect from my media server to my iPad wherever I am - pub, cafe, train - so I can stream my TV programmes direct. I think for non-HD content the 5MB/s of the RPi ethernet port would suffice
[20:02] <ant_thomas> raspberrypilover: Is your neighbour a known IT security hacker?
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[20:03] <raspberrypilover> I don't have WPA2 enterprise - just a cheap generic home router with normal WPA2. Can I set up software to use WPA2 Enterprise?
[20:03] <ant_thomas> raspberrypilover: But is your internet connection upload speed and public wifi speed quick enough to stream video?
[20:03] <pksato> good cheap generic route have wpa2 enterprise.
[20:03] <raspberrypilover> there's been mischief with the neighbours over the years. And I have been targetted by people war driving etc
[20:04] <pksato> some have a radius server.
[20:04] <ant_thomas> what sort of mischief? I'm curious!
[20:04] <raspberrypilover> I have between 5MB/s and 10MB/s upload
[20:04] <pksato> but, easy to set a freeradius on RPi.
[20:04] <IT_Sean> raspberrypilover: why not restrict the connection to only your own MAC addresses?
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[20:04] <raspberrypilover> pksato - I'm Googling freeradius now!!! never heard of it until tonight
[20:05] <pksato> and, buy smartcards to store credentials.
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[20:05] <pksato> but, self signed certs can be used.
[20:07] <raspberrypilover> About MAC addresses - I've had a girl tease my dick, and while I was distracted go into the settings and copy the MAC addresses for all my laptops, smartphone and iPad. So that is a great idea but not foolproof
[20:07] <pksato> but, only take some extra time to decripty inner ssl tunels and mschapv2 hash.
[20:07] <raspberrypilover> so she could spoof them
[20:07] <raspberrypilover> pksato - that was over my head, sir (or madam)
[20:08] <pksato> and, other seconds do decrypt openvnp keys.
[20:08] <daveZzZ> that actually happened?
[20:08] <raspberrypilover> daveZzZ - yes.
[20:08] <daveZzZ> whaaat, that's insane
[20:08] <pksato> or less if you have a quantun computer.
[20:08] <raspberrypilover> no at most she's got a Mac Pro! ;)
[20:09] <pksato> use optical wireless.
[20:09] <raspberrypilover> sounds expensive - I'm broke and no job.. needs to be done on a shoestring
[20:10] <pksato> it not pass walls.
[20:10] <JakeSays> ah so i would suggest that discussions of dick teasing are outside the scope of what is allowed.
[20:11] <IT_Sean> Indeed, raspberrypilover, that is not appropriate for #raspberrypi.
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[20:11] <raspberrypilover> JakeSays - I apologise for my crude language. I will be more careful in future
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[20:12] <steve_rox> fun
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[20:12] <raspberrypilover> So, to raise the tone of my language.....
[20:12] <IT_Sean> raspberrypilover: please do, and please be sure you are familiar with the channel rules and policy.
[20:12] <raspberrypilover> I am very sorry. Once again.
[20:13] <steve_rox> beg for forgiveness
[20:13] <steve_rox> :-D
[20:13] <ripplebit> hey guys, new here. Im trying to format my SD (ubuntu), but i cant find it using fdisk -l
[20:13] <JakeSays> raspberrypilover: no problem. i was more entertained than offended, but this channel is a place where younger pi users can come to learn
[20:13] <JakeSays> (and very old pi users too)
[20:13] <shiftplusone> ripplebit, remove card, insert card, run dmesg
[20:13] <shiftplusone> ripplebit, the last few lines will tell you what it is
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[20:14] <raspberrypilover> Yes. now that you spell that out it dawns on me how self-absorbed by remark was, and I am sorry. I certainly wouldn't talk like that in front of my friends' children
[20:14] <ripplebit> thanks shiftplusone
[20:14] <shiftplusone> ripplebit, if you're not sure what you're looking at, feel free to pastebin it.
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[20:16] <raspberrypilover> pksato - talk to me more about Radius - the website it technical and opaque to me
[20:16] <pksato> Radius is very complex system.
[20:17] <raspberrypilover> and Radius does the WPA2 enterprise login stuff?
[20:17] <pksato> but, easy to use a some previous configured.
[20:17] <pksato> yes
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[20:18] <ripplebit> shiftplusone: how do i pipe the output to a text file? forget the symbols
[20:18] <raspberrypilover> it mentions NAS
[20:18] <pksato> WPA2 enterprise use , if I not miss, tree phase authentication steps.
[20:18] <shiftplusone> ripplebit, > something
[20:18] <raspberrypilover> do you have NAS experience?
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[20:18] <raspberrypilover> three phase authentication?
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[20:20] <raspberrypilover> pksato: you around in about 30 minutes? I want to put the dinner on!
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[20:20] <raspberrypilover> love to chat more about Radius
[20:20] <ripplebit> shiftplusone: i dont think my laptop is reading it, but here's the dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/fh1aQnfu
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[20:21] <shiftplusone> ripplebit, doesn't look good at all. Either a faulty reader or sd card.
[20:21] <pksato> 1 wpa to connect to AP, 2 a ssl tunel to handshack user credentials, 3 send password hash to radius server, and close end points of wpa connection.
[20:22] <ripplebit> shiftplusone, is there anything i can do?
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[20:23] <shiftplusone> I can't think of anything other than try a different card or get a usb sd card reader/writer instead. Have you successfully used the sd slot recently?
[20:23] <raspberrypilover> pksato: thanks for the explanation. I'll check out the wiki more
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[20:24] <ripplebit> i honestly dont think i've ever used it before
[20:24] <ripplebit> i just bought the card yesterday, so it shouldn't be that
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[20:25] <pksato> raspberrypilover have a lots of sites with copy and past radius+wpa confs.
[20:25] <ripplebit> maybe i need a driver?
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[20:27] <pksato> ripplebit: usb card reader?
[20:27] <ripplebit> pksato: yeah
[20:27] <ripplebit> sd card
[20:27] <shiftplusone> ripplebit, according to your dmesg output the driver is there and loaded
[20:27] <ripplebit> oh
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[20:28] <pksato> or, is a notebook with card reader slot?
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[20:28] <shiftplusone> And it's pci, not usb.
[20:28] <ripplebit> yeah it's a notebook reader slot
[20:28] <shiftplusone> not that it makes much of a difference.
[20:28] <shiftplusone> pksato, http://pastebin.com/fh1aQnfu
[20:28] <pksato> some chip for sd card dont have a driver for linux.
[20:29] <shiftplusone> There does seem to be some trouble when it's initialized though
[20:29] <shiftplusone> sdhci-pci 0000:03:00.1: Will use DMA mode even though HW doesn't fully claim to support it. mmc0: no vqmmc regulator found
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[20:29] <ripplebit> can i write to it using an ee
[20:29] <ripplebit> ethernet cable*
[20:30] <shiftplusone> nope
[20:30] <pksato> ripplebit: sd or sdhc card?
[20:30] <ripplebit> sdhc
[20:30] <pksato> sdhc not work on sd reader.
[20:31] <shiftplusone> pksato, Why? No problems with sdhc cards here. =/
[20:31] <ripplebit> shouldn't it support both?
[20:31] <pksato> sd only reader.
[20:31] <IT_Sean> uh.....
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[20:31] <shiftplusone> It says it's an sdhc reader...
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[20:34] <pksato> I just listing cases of SD card fails.
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[20:36] <ripplebit> what would you guys suggest i do?
[20:37] <Danith> cry
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[20:37] <IT_Sean> Indeed. Crying seems like the best option.
[20:38] <IT_Sean> I might also suggest curling up in the fetal position and rocking on the floor whilst gently sobbing.
[20:38] <shiftplusone> ripplebit, I use one of these to write the images. You could get something similar http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/190393941058
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[20:38] <pksato> ripplebit: command lsmod | grep rts_pstor have any result?
[20:39] <ripplebit> nope
[20:39] <pksato> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=150134https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=150134
[20:39] <pksato> last post
[20:39] <pksato> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=150134
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[20:40] <pksato> is for arch, but, solution is same, need a rts_pstor kernel module.
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[20:40] <pksato> or, try modprobe rts_pstor
[20:41] <shiftplusone> Hm, I think you're onto something. Searching for his device id, does return that module
[20:41] <ripplebit> im a bit of a linux noob, how do i modprobe?
[20:41] <pksato> or search for RTS5209 ubuntu
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[20:41] <pksato> sudo modprobe rts_pstor
[20:42] <pksato> if ok, nothing happens.
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[20:43] <ripplebit> it says i dont have the module
[20:44] <pksato> easy way, but a sdhc usb card reader. :)
[20:44] <alpha1125> not that I need to do anything with the GPIO's in real time… but why does rpio command take so long to trigger from the cli?
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[20:45] <ripplebit> pksato: i've downloded the driver, how do i install it?
[20:45] <shiftplusone> If the module is not in the ubuntu repos somewhere, you'll have to download and compile it yourself.
[20:46] <LordDoskias> how can i make openmax decode something directly from a memory buffer, i understand how the hello_video example wroks, but in it they basically do fread to fill in the buffer, whereas i will need to be doing memcpy or something similar? has anyone done something similar?
[20:46] <shiftplusone> check the readme, it could just be a "make" and a "sudo make install"
[20:46] <pksato> ripplebit: need to install kernel module build tools. and do some 'magic'.
[20:46] <shiftplusone> then "sudo depmod"
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[20:47] <pksato> check README and INSTALL
[20:47] <pksato> less README INSTALL
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[20:47] <pksato> if have these files.
[20:47] <ripplebit> ok, readme says: 1. make 2. make install. 3. depmod 4. reboot
[20:47] <ripplebit> not really sure what make is...
[20:47] <shiftplusone> ha
[20:48] <shiftplusone> ripplebit, they are just commands
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[20:48] <HonkeyGenius> after typing each one press enter on the command line
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[20:48] <HonkeyGenius> :P
[20:48] <shiftplusone> If you actually want to know what make is, https://www.gnu.org/software/make/
[20:48] <ripplebit> right, so just do "make /home/user/file.tar"?
[20:49] <shiftplusone> oh dear
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[20:49] <JakeSays> lol missed a couple of steps there
[20:49] <shiftplusone> ripplebit, what's the name of the file you downloaded?
[20:50] <ripplebit> rts_pstor.tar.bz2
[20:50] <shiftplusone> "tar xvf rts_pstor.tar.bz2"
[20:50] <ripplebit> so make '/home/user/rts_pstor.tar.bz2'
[20:50] <shiftplusone> cd rts_pstor
[20:50] <ripplebit> right
[20:50] <shiftplusone> no... don't 'make' anything yet.
[20:51] <shiftplusone> did you run the two commands I just gave?
[20:51] <pksato> ripplebit: that is version of kernel? show it with uname -r
[20:51] <pksato> of ubuntu.
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[20:52] <ripplebit> 3.8.0-23-generic
[20:52] <ripplebit> i ran the tar xvf command
[20:52] <pksato> check on package manager if have a linux-image-extra
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[20:53] <shiftplusone> now run the cd one, after that run 'make' (nothing else), then 'sudo make install'
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[20:54] <ripplebit> ok, got "cc1: some warnings being treated as errors"
[20:54] <shiftplusone> fun
[20:54] <ripplebit> lol
[20:54] <shiftplusone> try 'apt-cache search linux-image-extra'
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[20:55] <ripplebit> done
[20:55] <shiftplusone> what's the output?
[20:56] <ripplebit> the same
[20:56] <shiftplusone> O_o
[20:56] <pksato> but, rts_pstor not on kernel 3.8.0
[20:56] <shiftplusone> I'll just shut up and let pksato sort you out. >.>
[20:56] <ripplebit> thanks for the help anyway
[20:57] <ripplebit> pksato: i've downloaded the driver for RTS5209
[20:57] <ripplebit> should that have worked?
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[21:00] <pksato> ripplebit: work, but it is not easy task for news on linux.
[21:01] <yggdrasil> whats up gents
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[22:01] <mwlang> is there a wheezy minified image out there somewhere? I like wheezy, but don't want all the desktop stuff….X11, Gnome, etc.
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[22:01] <JakeSays> they should call it sqwueezy
[22:02] <JakeSays> sqwheezy
[22:02] <mwlang> or asmatic. :-p
[22:02] <IT_Sean> squishy?
[22:03] <mwlang> maybe "seedy" since I just want the seeds without the pulp
[22:03] <mwlang> building ruby 2.0 on my pi now…its been going for 25 mins.
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[22:05] <ant_thomas> What humidity sensors do people recommend? For temperature I've used the DHT11 and DS18B20 and the DS18B20 is much better, more accurate and more consistent and easier to use multiple sensors. I've just started using the DHT11 for humidity but I would like something to compare it to
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[22:08] <wroberts1> mwlang: moebius
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[22:11] <ozzzy> I usually use an LM335
[22:11] <ozzzy> oh... humidity
[22:11] <ozzzy> I have DHT11s
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[22:12] <Darkwell> Ds18B20 is good ?
[22:13] <ant_thomas> Out of the two types I've tried they're the best out of the two
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[22:14] <Darkwell> ok
[22:14] <Darkwell> http://www.google.se/imgres?imgurl=http://thebloughs.net/hobbies/electronics/multitherm/images/init.jpg&imgrefurl=http://thebloughs.net/hobbies/electronics/multitherm/&h=900&w=1200&sz=131&tbnid=7J4KnRFWlHxiKM:&tbnh=90&tbnw=120&zoom=1&usg=__TMJtiqOJ_A0eVduDzoQXWjzDbbk=&docid=E5fK_NE7w0LKEM&sa=X&ei=9Hi7UZaHEIjNtQa-l4GwAQ&ved=0CGYQ9QEwBA&dur=490
[22:14] <Darkwell> sorry wrong
[22:14] <Darkwell> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXbKNJTj6Po
[22:15] <Darkwell> how to make that one waterproof
[22:16] <ant_thomas> You can buy them waterproofed - http://bit.ly/11BsRYW
[22:16] <piney_> ant_thomas, check out sensirion's temp / humidity sensors. a little pricey, but nice.
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[22:17] <ant_thomas> piney_: Thanks, will do
[22:17] <Darkwell> i ponder getting a temp sensor for my arduino
[22:17] <piney_> but I guess any humidity sensor worth something is pricey for that matter
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[22:20] <Darkwell> that mvie, i would use a metallic pipe and seal it with arctic silver ( for cpu cooling ;) to avoid delay of data for temp changes
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[22:22] <IT_Sean> I'm not actually sure how well that would really work...
[22:22] <IT_Sean> ... or for how long.
[22:23] <Darkwell> i mean he uses pen tube and seemingly sikaflex, those are "heat resistant" so it will take a while for them to get same temp as the environment
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[22:24] <Darkwell> if you have metallic tube , you could solder zinc anode to have to avoid oxidizing on the tube
[22:25] <SpeedEvil> You want a stainless steel tube, with a thermocouple welded to the inside
[22:25] <SpeedEvil> These are readily available
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[22:26] <melwyn> hello! i'm just wiring up a small relay board to my pi. now i discovered, that the relay board is "inverted": gpio=1 -> relay:off, gpio=0 -> relay=on (pull to ground to activate). is there a way for wiringpi to say 1=0 ? otherwise i need to define the gpio pin as ouput (then it is ON), and set it to 1 afterwards (relay = OFF). hope this make sense, thanks!
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[22:26] <SpeedEvil> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/TYPE-K-THERMOCOUPLE-PROBES-FLEX-STAINLESS-STEEL-SHEATHED-2-OFF-1-6mmx0-5m-/281118725926?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Test_Measurement_Equipment_ET&hash=item4173fb5726 for example
[22:27] <SpeedEvil> melwyn: how many contacts does each relay have
[22:27] <melwyn> that is the schematics of the relay board: http://goo.gl/ishaK (i'm just using one of the relais)
[22:28] <SpeedEvil> If that is accurate - you simply use the other contacts
[22:28] <Apophis9424> Hi! I've problem. I've bought TL-WN723N. After compile I have this trouble: root@Pi:/usr/src/linux-rpi-3.6.11+/drivers/net/wireless/rtl8192cu# install -p -m 644 8192cu.ko
[22:28] <Apophis9424> install: missing destination file operand after `8192cu.ko'
[22:28] <piney_> the tubes are more commonly known as a 'thermowell' (might help with googleing)
[22:28] <SpeedEvil> It normally connects 2-3 unless the relay is activated, when it connects 1-2
[22:28] <SpeedEvil> Just use the other set of contacts if you want the inverted driver
[22:28] <melwyn> SpeedEvil, but then, the relay would always be ON, right?
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[22:29] <melwyn> SpeedEvil, and if my pi is off, the infrared-leds (which are connected through the relais) would be on, right?
[22:29] <SpeedEvil> melwyn: ah
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[22:31] <Apophis9424> How can I use my TL-WN723N v3 with my Rapsberry Pi? In lsusb I have Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[22:31] <melwyn> or should i use it as input and set the pull-up/pull-down resistor (up=OFF), (down=ON)
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[22:31] <Apophis9424> But I can't see it in ifconfig.
[22:32] <SpeedEvil> melwyn: Sorry - I'm mostly asleep
[22:33] <melwyn> SpeedEvil, no worries at all, i will ask another day :)
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[22:33] <Apophis9424> How i can activate driver for TL-WN723N? Driver is rt8192cu.
[22:34] <ozzzy> I used wicd
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[22:35] <Apophis9424> I I've don't see it in ifconfig -a
[22:37] <pksato> Apophis9424: lsusb to check if dongle is on bus.
[22:37] <Apophis9424> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 0bda:8179 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
[22:38] <ozzzy> Apophis9424: try wicd
[22:38] <Apophis9424> root@Pi:/home/pi# wicd
[22:38] <Apophis9424> It seems like the daemon is already running.
[22:38] <Apophis9424> If it is not, please remove /var/run/wicd/wicd.pid and try again.
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[22:39] <ozzzy> ok... look for your network in wicd-curses
[22:39] <ozzzy> or the graphical one
[22:39] <ozzzy> whatever that is
[22:39] <ozzzy> I've found that wicd-curses works
[22:40] <pksato> instaled firmware-realtek ? (if is on raspbian)
[22:41] <pksato> RTL8192U-based devices only: firmware is required to be manually supplied:
[22:41] <pksato> http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x#Debian_7.0_.22Wheezy.22
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[22:44] <Apophis9424> I don't see my tl-wn723n in wicd =(
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[22:46] <ozzzy> yeah... I had to install firmware-realtek
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[22:49] <Apophis9424> firmware-realtek is already the newest version
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[23:23] <Datalink> hm, I wonder how hard it'll be to interface http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=16306856 with my Pi
[23:23] <Datalink> seems to handle 3.3v data input easilly enough, testing that right now with my Arduino in 3.3v mode
[23:24] <BCMM> i feel like i've seen discussions about interfacing RGB LED strips with a pi before
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[23:24] <Datalink> yeah, adafruit did one for their strips which where 5v power and data
[23:24] <n3hxs> OUCH... check the price for the LED strips on aliexpress.com, Datalink
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[23:25] <Datalink> n3hxs, I'm holding the strip I linked already, I'm gonna be buying more proper strips later though, yeah
[23:25] <Datalink> I'm thinking a bulk length of 5 volt or 3.3v friendly
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[23:26] <n3hxs> Well, the ones I got from Aliexpress were 12V.
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[23:26] <n3hxs> But $14.40 for 15 feet with 300 LEDs is a good price.
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[23:36] <Datalink> yeah, I wanna light my house with something better than these ratshack ones
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[23:38] <SpeedEvil> Datalink: fire
[23:38] <Datalink> SpeedEvil, yeah, that's listed as a nono in my lease
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[23:52] <JakeSays> 'tis almost time to fire up my soldering iron!
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