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IRC Log for 2013-06-17

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[0:12] <[deXter]> Hi all, does anyone know how to wire up the relays on PiFace ?
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[0:12] <[deXter]> There are three pins, but there's no instructions on how to connect them
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[0:16] <ShorTie> i'd guess it be a common, normally open and normaly closed pins
[0:17] <[deXter]> How would I connect, say, an LED to it? Because the relays should already be powered up
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[0:17] <[deXter]> and there are no markings on the terminals as to which one should be positive/negative/common etc
[0:18] <[deXter]> (assuming LED is already powered)
[0:19] <SpeedEvil> They are each one switch.
[0:19] <SpeedEvil> You have one 'common' pin. And a 'normally closed' and 'normally open' pin.
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[0:20] <SpeedEvil> The relay dependant on state either connects common to the normally closed, or normally open pin
[0:20] <SpeedEvil> you use it as you would any switch
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[0:21] <[deXter]> So it doesn't matter which order I connect them?
[0:22] <rigid> [deXter]: just connect a continuity or ohm meter to the middle pin and another... then switch the relay and observe what's happening
[0:22] <rigid> it does
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[0:22] <rigid> middle and one = normally closed/open when relay is powered.... middle and other = normally open/closed when relay is powered
[0:24] <[deXter]> thanks rigid, will play with an ohm meter and test it out
[0:26] <rigid> [deXter]: yeah, it will become obvious then. Maybe it's a bit easier with a continuity meter where you get a *beep* at 0 Ohm
[0:27] <SpeedEvil> rigid: naah - you don't need that. You just make a 'beep' noise if it reads less than 5 ohms.
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[0:29] <rigid> SpeedEvil: yeah if you don't mind turn your head to read the display... it's nice to have a girlfriend for stuff like this :-P
[0:29] <rigid> ...or boyfriend...
[0:29] <rigid> *turning
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[1:20] <JakeSays> gordonDrogon: hey that display works great with your lib :)
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[1:28] <nerdboy> arm1176jzfshf-vfp-poky-linux-gnueabi looks correct according to the yocto config docs...
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[2:07] <Xark> poky? I know it is slow but... :)
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[4:38] <AlkazaR> hi all
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[4:42] <fongseiyuc> Good moning
[4:42] <fongseiyuc> Goodmorning
[4:42] <fongseiyuc> lol
[4:43] <AlkazaR> I just ordered my Pi, thought I'd check in here and see what people are up to
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[4:43] <AlkazaR> I'm looking to use mine as a Mail server
[4:48] <AlkazaR> anyone here done something similar with theirs?
[4:49] <JakeSays2> AlkazaR: i just keep hookin weird stuff up to mine
[4:50] <AlkazaR> Jake: I'll prob do the same and/or buy more. I feel a Pi addiction coming on
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[4:51] <JakeSays2> yeah one of mine will find its way in to a robot
[4:52] <AlkazaR> awesome
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[5:05] <ricksl> JakeSays2 are you a clone?
[5:06] <JakeSays2> lol
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[5:07] <ricksl> Imposter!
[5:08] <AlkazaR> lol
[5:10] <JakeSays> ricksl: i was able to get a 20x4 lcd display working with my pi
[5:10] <ricksl> neat, have a part number or link for me?
[5:10] <ricksl> i want to see which one you got working
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[5:11] <JakeSays> http://www.msc-ge.com/download/displays/dabla_allg/msc-c204dyly-1n.pdf
[5:11] <JakeSays> its actually a mcs-c204uyly-1n
[5:11] <JakeSays> not sure what the d/u difference is tho
[5:12] <ricksl> you program the interface yourself?
[5:12] <ricksl> or program interfacing with the screen
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[5:12] <JakeSays> nooo. mr gordonDrogon did that for me :)
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[5:12] <JakeSays> wiringpi has support in it for those types of lcds
[5:13] <ricksl> Was about to say you learn rediculously quickly
[5:13] <JakeSays> lol
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[5:13] <JakeSays> well, writing the library wouldn't have been all that difficult
[5:13] <ricksl> yeah i suppose wiring pi supports quite the slurry of lcd screens
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[5:15] <ricksl> Doesn't look as though it is a standard bus though.
[5:15] <JakeSays> its based on a hitachi design, which is pretty much the defacto std i think
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[5:15] <ricksl> I mean programming something that works over spi or i2c is pretty easy, but i get lazy looking through data sheets and bit banging a hello world screen
[5:15] <ricksl> ah didn't know that
[5:16] <ricksl> was this lcd on your disk changer
[5:16] <JakeSays> yupo
[5:16] <JakeSays> -o
[5:16] <ricksl> ha
[5:17] <ricksl> very cool.
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[5:18] <ricksl> I am trying to put together a project involving the teensy 3.0
[5:19] <ricksl> just picking parts right now, I understand your impatience for ordering jake, i hate finding half the parts in one place and half in the other
[5:20] <ricksl> trying to make shipping worth it in one, and trying to make it cheaper with the other
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[5:23] <JakeSays> ricksl: yeah. and i have adhd, which doesnt help
[5:24] <ricksl> Ugh I know what you are going through.
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[5:25] <JakeSays> i'm thinking i may have to take part of this years' bonus and build an inventory
[5:26] <ricksl> but damn, adafruit has a like 20% markup on the teensy but they are the only ones with a wii accessory controller breakout I like. It wouldn't be worth it to buy just the breakout though. And I also want the new pi since my 3 or so are the 256 versions
[5:26] <JakeSays> whats a teensy?
[5:26] <ricksl> its a breadboard arduino clone
[5:26] <JakeSays> \ah
[5:26] <ricksl> -\
[5:27] <JakeSays> lol yes
[5:27] <ricksl> but they work much better, since they use an avr chip with an integrated usb controller, it also lets them act like a human interface device
[5:27] <cheese1756> Is there a way for me to visually identify my Raspberry Pi board revision? I don't have a power supply for it yet, so I can't cat /proc/cpuinfo
[5:27] <JakeSays> cheese1756: its rev 2
[5:28] <ricksl> so my ultimate goal is to use the wii classic controller as a computer controller via a teensy
[5:28] <ricksl> thus the need for a wii accesory controller breakout
[5:28] <JakeSays> the wand thing?
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[5:28] <cheese1756> JakeSays, It was ordered when it first came out as a gift, but came much later. Though I'm not sure which revision that would be.
[5:28] <ricksl> no the classic controller http://uncrate.com/p/2010/01/wii-classic-controller-pro-xl.jpg
[5:29] <JakeSays> ah
[5:29] <JakeSays> cheese1756: how long have you had it?
[5:29] <ricksl> does it have holes in it
[5:29] <JakeSays> cheese1756: and yeah, if it has two mounting holes, then its a rev 2
[5:30] <cheese1756> Where would the mounting holes be found?
[5:30] <JakeSays> you cant miss them
[5:30] <ricksl> one right in the center the other right near the usb
[5:30] <cheese1756> I see a few tiny ones, but I take it it's not that
[5:30] <cheese1756> Nope, there are two tiny holes, one near the power supply
[5:30] <cheese1756> But I take it that's not it
[5:30] <ricksl> does it look like this http://elinux.org/images/thumb/f/f4/RaspiFront.JPG/800px-RaspiFront.JPG
[5:31] <cheese1756> No, those holes aren't here
[5:31] <cheese1756> *there
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[5:31] <JakeSays> ah then its a rev 1
[5:31] <ricksl> sorry bro you got a rev one
[5:31] <JakeSays> how long have you had it?
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[5:31] <ricksl> join the club *sniff* the 256 ram club
[5:31] <cheese1756> JakeSays, Maybe half a year? Not entirely sure, it came at a busy time
[5:31] <cheese1756> I know it's a 256MB RAM one
[5:31] <cheese1756> Gives me some incentives for optimization :)
[5:31] <cheese1756> Maybe I'll do a custom kernel, I don't know
[5:32] <JakeSays> cheese1756: yeah mine sat for a few months before i dug in to them
[5:32] <cheese1756> A small VPS was satiating me in the meantime, but now I really want to get it setup
[5:32] <ricksl> http://elinux.org/RPi_HardwareHistory
[5:34] <ricksl> you want to do a thin client cheese1756?
[5:34] <ricksl> wait nvmind, read that wrong
[5:34] <cheese1756> ricksl, Though you're right, I do want to do a thin client
[5:35] <ricksl> I have a link for you to look at in that case
[5:35] <cheese1756> Sure, that would be great
[5:35] <ricksl> http://shackspace.de/?p=3859
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[5:35] <ricksl> I was almost able to get this to work but I had trouble getting usbip working on the server side
[5:35] <dansan> ricksl: you are evil!
[5:36] <ricksl> I know, but what makes you say that?
[5:36] <dansan> windows on a pi!? That's unnatural and disgusting!
[5:36] <ricksl> It is a windows thin client that can forward its usb ports at a kernel level, its amazing
[5:37] <dansan> ahh, ic
[5:37] <cheese1756> Very cool, thank you :)
[5:37] <ricksl> it lets you interface with windows only things, in this case a laser cutter
[5:37] <JakeSays> laser cutter..
[5:37] <ricksl> And the speed at which it runs is impressive at that.
[5:37] * JakeSays drools
[5:38] <cheese1756> Are you a member of that hackerspace?
[5:38] <ricksl> I have a laser engraver at my school. The thickest it can cut is like 1/8 inch acryllic
[5:38] <JakeSays> i reall REALLY want a 3d printer
[5:38] <ricksl> I might as well be with all the stuff I have at my disposal, the only thing lacking is intelligent people
[5:39] <ricksl> I have a 3d printer, woodshop, metalshop, cad lab, seperate graphic design lab, laser engraver, and cnc router
[5:39] <ricksl> My school has a ton of money dedicated to its shop classes.
[5:39] <JakeSays> you have all of that, or your school?
[5:40] <ricksl> my school
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[5:40] <ricksl> no there is easily half a million dollars of money dumped into that.
[5:41] <JakeSays> dang
[5:41] <ricksl> And it was sort of a sudden jump that bummed me out, we just this year got the 3d printer and cnc router
[5:41] <ricksl> and I graduate this year
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[5:42] <ricksl> the cnc router was touched exactly once, but the 3d printer has gotten its fair share of use, once people outside the cad program saw what you could do, they wanted to print stuff too.
[5:42] <JakeSays> ricksl: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nvj655nxda5qkjz/IMG_20130616_213705.jpg
[5:43] <ricksl> that warmed my heart jake
[5:43] <JakeSays> lol
[5:44] <ricksl> whats that board to the right?
[5:44] <ricksl> and then that small red one ontop of it
[5:44] <JakeSays> a velleman k8055 experiment board
[5:44] <JakeSays> the red one is a usb hub
[5:44] <JakeSays> driving the k8055 and the hdd
[5:45] <ricksl> are those two connected to the pi?
[5:45] <JakeSays> yes
[5:45] <ricksl> they doing anything yet?
[5:45] <JakeSays> i built the k8055 yesterday
[5:45] <JakeSays> not yet
[5:45] <JakeSays> well
[5:45] <JakeSays> the hdd has stuff on it
[5:46] <ricksl> I love how the pi has become the epicenter of your desk
[5:47] <JakeSays> lol well thats just the right side of my desk
[5:47] <ricksl> Don't show me the other side, I fear for what secrets it might hold
[5:47] <JakeSays> nothing fun - taxes
[5:48] <AlkazaR> /part
[5:48] <ricksl> oh, I was thinking like the holy grail or something
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[5:48] <JakeSays> hah. i wish.
[5:49] <ricksl> Never even heard of that board, whered you get it from?
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[5:49] <JakeSays> radioshack
[5:49] <JakeSays> was on clearance
[5:50] <ricksl> Really, seems like an obscure piece.
[5:50] <ricksl> probably trying to clear inventory for arduinos or something
[5:51] <JakeSays> i'm going to see if i can grab another one
[5:52] <ricksl> how much you pick it up for?
[5:52] <JakeSays> $19
[5:52] <ricksl> if they have two buy one for me, I would gladly compensate you
[5:52] <JakeSays> will do
[5:52] <ricksl> I love screw terminals
[5:53] <ricksl> They are just so much... Easier
[5:53] <JakeSays> yup
[5:53] <JakeSays> and i found a library for the pi for it on github
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[5:54] <ryan_turner> Hey, is there an easy way to connect to a wifi network via command line on raspbian?
[5:54] <ricksl> Thats really cool, thats the great thing about the pi being so cheap, people who work on really old or somewhat antiquated projects can still integrate support for it wasily and have other enthusiasts of the project do so as well
[5:54] <JakeSays> ryan_turner: add it to /etc/network and ifup
[5:55] <ricksl> or maybe obscure projects would be a better word for it.
[5:55] <raspberrypilover> ricks1: the RPi is just awesome in everyway - a very cheap way for people to learn the joys of *NIX OSs
[5:56] <yggdrasil> hey guys
[5:56] * JakeSays has found little join in unix :p
[5:56] <JakeSays> *joy
[5:56] <yggdrasil> is there any way to controll a led that does multiple colors ?
[5:57] <yggdrasil> at different voltages
[5:57] <ricksl> Btw anyone know what I can do with a unix shell?
[5:57] <dansan> ricksl: anything
[5:57] <dansan> I can't live w/o them
[5:57] <JakeSays> ricksl: hold it to your ear to hear the ocean
[5:57] <yggdrasil> take over the world!
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[5:57] <dansan> I can't use Windows w/o a Cygwin shell
[5:57] <ricksl> I seem to have acquired a free remote one at my uni
[5:57] <ryan_turner> JakeSays, I configured it originally using the x11 interface, I have it listed on that graphical interface
[5:58] <ricksl> i am tunneling through it right now as you can see if you whois me
[5:58] <ryan_turner> but ifup is what I need command line was to access that?
[5:58] <JakeSays> ryan_turner: ifup will bring up an interface
[5:58] <JakeSays> ryan_turner: if it is already configured, try ifup wlan0
[5:58] <ricksl> oh I just saw that joke jake, I hate you for making me tear up.
[5:59] <JakeSays> ricksl: LOL
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[5:59] <ryan_turner> Its not connected :/ the old network it was connected to no longer exists (RIP N16 wireless router that died from 200 watts PEP 14.3 MHz transmission 3 feet away)
[5:59] <ricksl> what are you running your router in a microwave?
[6:00] <JakeSays> ryan_turner: you can change the wifi parameters by editing etc/network
[6:01] <JakeSays> er, /etc/networks
[6:01] <JakeSays> no
[6:01] <JakeSays> not networks
[6:01] <ryan_turner> Ok, looking.
[6:01] <ryan_turner> ricksl, no, beside my hamshack
[6:01] <ryan_turner> I picked up that router to use as a VPN router
[6:01] <ricksl> Ah
[6:01] <ryan_turner> installed tomato, everyhting was gravy.
[6:02] <ryan_turner> Tonight I went to check in on the reddit ham net
[6:02] <ryan_turner> and the thing got fried immediately as soon as I keyed up (I saw the lights cut off)
[6:02] <ricksl> thats unfortunate
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[6:03] <ryan_turner> when I plug it in, on the same freq, I just hear a repeating click on the frequency as disturbance :/
[6:03] <ricksl> you should teach me about rf engineering one of these days
[6:03] <JakeSays> ryan_turner: actually my wifi conf is in /etc/wpa.conf
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[6:04] <ladoga> ryan_turner: or if you want to connect manually you probably can run "iwlist [interface] scanning", then "iwconfig [interface] essid [whatever]" and finally "ifup [interface]"
[6:04] <ricksl> a teacher is convinced I can help him make a high altitude balloon with live telemetry
[6:04] <ricksl> Cause I used an xbee to turn off a light wirelessly once.
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[6:06] <ladoga> or maybe "dhclient [interface]" for the last step instead of ifup
[6:06] <nerdboy> still, it sounds like a fun project
[6:06] <nerdboy> we made our own instrumented tether-sonde when i was in school...
[6:07] <nerdboy> used it on several field projects
[6:07] <ricksl> enlighten me as to what it does
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[6:09] <nerdboy> a big balloon on a winch with a digital compass& barometer, plus temp/humidity sensors
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[6:10] <ricksl> that sounds handy
[6:10] <nerdboy> works well in light winds
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[6:13] <JakeSays> so basically a tethered weather baloon?
[6:13] <ricksl> Well I turned into a pumpkin 15 minutes ago, im going to bed.
[6:13] <nerdboy> the compass plus a little wind speed propeller on the front gave wind speed and direction
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[6:14] <nerdboy> more like a barrage balloon with 3 fins on the back
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[6:51] <TheDracle> So, I'm trying to both record, and play from a USB audio device simultaneously. The first thing I found was that any audio playback was sputtering and generated constant pops and clicks at 48000 Hz. I updated to use the fiq_split branch, and now I can play 48000 Hz audio clearly. However, if I open the device to record simultaneously with: arecord, and then play audio, I just get sputtery garbage playing out again.
[6:51] <TheDracle> It's not a CPU issue, even if I open arecord, and then background it, the audio playback with aplay stays sputtery.
[6:52] <TheDracle> So, it's the very aspect of opening the device for recording to begin with.
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[6:56] <TheDracle> https://github.com/raspberrypi/firmware/issues/189
[6:56] <TheDracle> Apparently an issue on this.
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[7:41] <heckman> Does the model B have HF support?
[7:41] <heckman> Trying to see if I should be using the armel or armhf repos in Debian.
[7:41] <[Saint]> The model isn't relevant to this, so...yes.
[7:41] <[Saint]> The SoC supports HF, the SoC is the same throughout.
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[8:27] <heckman> Ah, seems the HardFloat stuff for core debian require an ARMv7 chip. Well poop.
[8:28] <djshotglass> i will be needing really good temperature/humidity sensors
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[8:28] <Grievre> So I think I've narrowed down the boot issues I've been having: If the Pi's I2C pins are connected through a level-shifter to a bunch of AVRs that are powered off, the Pi will get stuck trying to load the I2C driver
[8:29] <Grievre> if you disconnect it, boot the pi and then reconnect it, everything's gravy
[8:29] <[Saint]> heckman: what is it exactly that you are wanting that isn't provided by the raspbian repository?
[8:30] <heckman> I don't want X or LXDE
[8:30] <heckman> Minimalism, is maybe a better answer.
[8:30] <[Saint]> That doesn't answer my question at all.
[8:31] <heckman> What I want is a basic installation of Debian Wheezy.
[8:31] <heckman> I was going to debootstrap the base system and then install what I needed.
[8:31] <[Saint]> Yeah. Not gonna happen.
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[8:31] <heckman> Well yeah, I see that now. :)
[8:32] <[Saint]> If you want a minimal system, use the netinstaller.
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[8:32] <[Saint]> But, really, there isn't a terrible amount of stuff included in the raspbian images that isn't in a base install.
[8:33] <[Saint]> Alternatively, use any one of the HUGE amount of pre-made minimal images out there.
[8:33] <heckman> Yeah. I suppose I could just go over `dpkg --get-selections` and trim the fat.
[8:34] <[Saint]> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=343120
[8:34] <heckman> Well, the original goal was to keep it as close to the ARM port of Debian Wheezy as possible. But if I need to rock Raspbian for it, no biggie.
[8:34] <[Saint]> heckman: ^
[8:35] <heckman> [Saint]: good stuff! Thanks for the link
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[8:43] <[Saint]> heckman: It can be a little scary at times, but, over the years I have found that about 90% of the things I want or plan to do have already been done by somebody else :)
[8:44] <[Saint]> Sometimes I will deliberately reinvent the wheel for fun, or education, but usually not.
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[8:53] <[Saint]> heckman: a script to strip a "Foundation Issues" image to the bare essentials can be found here as well: https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B1RhPrxJp7gyVjM5VEZHZWNVOFk/edit?pli=1
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[8:54] <[Saint]> errr, whoops: here - http://sirlagz.net/2012/12/31/raspbian-server-edition-version-2-2/
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[8:56] <[Saint]> Anyhoo - have fun.
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[8:59] <AlkazaR> Saint: what was that link you just posted?
[9:00] <AlkazaR> a server version of Raspbian?
[9:01] <histo> [Saint]: why couldn't heckman debootstrap arm version?
[9:01] <histo> Grievre: don't have the i2c module load on boot
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[9:02] <histo> heckman: or just use raspbian and remove X and lxde
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[9:06] <Grievre> histo: Mm... that's one option
[9:08] <histo> Grievre: just pluck it in /etc/rc.local to load later
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[9:14] <[Saint]> histo: its not that he /couldn't/, mor ethat he shouldn't.
[9:16] <histo> [Saint]: why not?
[9:17] <[Saint]> armel vs. armhf.
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[9:18] <[Saint]> For many things, the performance hit would be rather notable.
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[10:21] <nerdboy> it lives...
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[10:23] <ItsMeLenny> does it?
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[10:25] <nerdboy> new *hf-vfp image
[10:25] <gordonDrogon> morning soggy raspberries.
[10:26] <ShorTie> good morning
[10:26] <AlkazaR> morning Gordon
[10:28] <ShorTie> if powered bt 5v, can a 7404 invert a 12v pulse ??
[10:28] <ShorTie> by*
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[10:33] <AlkazaR> anyone here done something interesting with their Pi?
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[10:34] <histo> AlkazaR: depends on what you consider interesting I guess.
[10:34] <AlkazaR> histo: Cloud Server or similar?
[10:35] <histo> AlkazaR: No. right now i've made it a dust collector
[10:36] <histo> AlkazaR: you should be able to install owncloud on raspberry pi though
[10:36] <AlkazaR> histo: Interesting :)
[10:36] <AlkazaR> histo: my first goal is Mail server/Groupware
[10:36] <AlkazaR> then other Cloud like services
[10:37] <histo> AlkazaR: shouldn't be a problem
[10:37] <AlkazaR> fairly steep learning curve though, as I'm no Linux genius :)
[10:38] <gordonDrogon> ShorTie, standard 74xxx TTL is 5V only.
[10:38] <histo> AlkazaR: http://www.instructables.com/id/Raspberry-Pi-Owncloud-dropbox-clone/?ALLSTEPS
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[10:41] <AlkazaR> brb - need to restart
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[10:45] <ShorTie> okie dokie, thankz
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[10:58] <AlkazaR> back :) no idea what happened there, but I lost all DNS for web browsing on my host PC ( running this off a guest virtualbox Debian )
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[11:58] <Kane> o/
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[13:27] <ShorTie> hooked up the rPi, and tried the 555 circuit and it works fine without having to invert that +12, lol.
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[16:20] <rymate1234> hi
[16:20] <rymate1234> 2quetions
[16:20] <rymate1234> 1. why is my keyboard on the Pi missing keys and/o repeating them
[16:21] <[Saint]> 1. known issue with some wireless keyboards
[16:21] <rymate1234> 2. how do I insll the wayland server from the latest image onto my Pi
[16:21] <[Saint]> (check the forums for the list of known supported ones)
[16:21] <rymate1234> [Saint], wired usb keyboard#
[16:21] <SpeedEvil> 1. Known issue with USB keyboards.
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[16:22] <[Saint]> 2 - you don't have to, if you have the latest image.
[16:22] <rymate1234> ok, just ewondring
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[16:22] <rymate1234> [Saint], I donnnnnn't have the atest mage
[16:23] <rymate1234> gah
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[16:23] <[Saint]> apt-get update && apt-get install wayland
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[16:25] <ItsMeLenny> is wayland on raspi?
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[16:25] <[Saint]> Yes.
[16:26] <ItsMeLenny> where have i been
[16:26] <rymate1234> "The Wayland/Weston preview from Collabra is installed and their apt repository is included as an apt source."
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[16:26] <rymate1234> sounds like there's an apt repo I need
[16:26] <SgrA> Hi, what does Arch Linux call the network interface on the RPi according to the new network device naming scheme? I use my Raspberry Pi headless and can't seem to get it on network after upgrading to the June 06 image.
[16:27] <[Saint]> rymate1234: dist-upgrade should add it for you
[16:27] <rymate1234> ok, my keyboard works without my wireless mouse plugged in
[16:27] <rymate1234> great
[16:27] <rymate1234> fantastic
[16:27] <rymate1234> :/
[16:27] <[Saint]> rymate1234: that sounds like power issues.
[16:27] <[Saint]> I rather suspect your PSU is insufficient.
[16:27] <rymate1234> k
[16:28] <[Saint]> Wireless mice dongles /usually/ use around 50mA, but some can be excessively hungry.
[16:29] <[Saint]> same with all mice and keyboards really, wireless or otherwise.
[16:29] <[Saint]> Included LEDs and/or LCD displays can be fairly power hungry sometimes.
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[16:40] <Stummi> Hi, i just started with hacking with the GPIO-Port on the RPI (and with GPIO in general). Do i Just have to connect the GPIO-Port with the 3v3-Port to set it to high?
[16:41] <rymate1234> woo wayland works
[16:42] <gordonDrogon> Stummi, not sure what you mean there
[16:42] <gordonDrogon> Stummi, what are you trying to do?
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[16:44] <rymate1234> I assum xwayland isn't in the latest build
[16:45] <Stummi> gordonDrogon, i am trying to build an simple test setup where I have 4 GPIO Input ports, which i can easily switch low and high
[16:46] <gordonDrogon> Stummi, inputs - easiest is to connect a switch between the pin and 0v.
[16:46] <gordonDrogon> Stummi, then set the internal pull-up resistors and off you go. inputs read 1 when not pushed, and 0 when pushed.
[16:47] <Stummi> 0v? is this GND?
[16:47] <gordonDrogon> yes
[16:47] <Stummi> sorry for maybe stupid question. I am total new with this :)
[16:47] <gordonDrogon> save thing here.
[16:47] <gordonDrogon> *same.
[16:48] <gordonDrogon> Stummi, https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/gpio-examples/tux-crossing/
[16:48] <gordonDrogon> starter with a button and LEDs.
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[16:49] <rymate1234> so is there anyway to run x apps in wayland yet?
[16:49] <rymate1234> or is xwayland currently not ported to pi yet
[16:49] <Stummi> gordonDrogon, thanks
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[17:02] <donta> My raspberrypi is coming today! yay!
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[17:03] <FR^2> donta: Congrats! :D
[17:04] <donta> thanks :P I'm excited to get it setup!
[17:04] <donta> I'm going to run BNC and a file server on it
[17:05] <donta> and maybe try my hand at gettting wordpress installed
[17:05] <SgrA> What does Arch Linux call internet interface according to the new naming scheme?
[17:06] <donta> What OS do you guys run?
[17:06] <donta> (on the rpi)
[17:06] <SgrA> I use Arch.
[17:06] <mgottschlag> none
[17:06] <mgottschlag> I bet that is not quite representative though
[17:07] <donta> mgottschlag: lol
[17:08] <mgottschlag> I am mainly playing with the firmware, reverse engineering etc :)
[17:08] <Brandano> mgottschlag: not even your own homebrewed one?
[17:08] <donta> SgrA: What are the benefits of running Arch on the pi?
[17:08] <mgottschlag> well, unless one calls our small bootloader on the GPU an "OS" :)
[17:08] * Brandano currently has the PI booting on raspbian
[17:08] <donta> mgottschlag: what are you trying to do with the reverse?
[17:09] <Brandano> mgottschlag: does it handle files?
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[17:09] <Brandano> and memory addresses? it might be a sucky OS, but I guess it is one
[17:09] <mgottschlag> donta: on the Pi, the GPU isn't really just a GPU, its the main processor of the system which just happens to start the ARM processor at some point - we want to be able to actually use that processor for our own code :)
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[17:09] <mgottschlag> files? no :)
[17:10] <SgrA> donta, Its fast and I like Arch over Debian mainly because of the package manager. It might not be ideal for beginners though, as the download page says.
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[17:11] <mgottschlag> but, it has some kind of small commandline to poke memory :D
[17:12] <Brandano> I wonder why do you actually need to reverse-engineer stuff. Isn't the firmware available somewhere?
[17:12] <donta> thanks for the answers :)
[17:13] <mgottschlag> well, the firmware is available as a binary executable
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[17:13] <linuxstb> Brandano: There is no source code to the firmware
[17:13] <Brandano> oh. Broadcom closed stuff?
[17:13] <linuxstb> (and no tools to build it, even if there was)
[17:13] <Stummi> gordonDrogon, thanks, this works so far for the SDA-Pin. but for the GPIO pins (GPIO 0 - GPIO 11) I still need the bridge to 3v, right? (as I said, i want 4 inputs)
[17:14] <mgottschlag> heh, we now have a fairly complete C compiler (or, I think, even two)
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> Stummi, no.
[17:14] <Stummi> gordonDrogon, connecting GPIO 0 to 0v doesn't do anything
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> Stummi, you can enable the internal pull-up resistor.
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> Stummi, what are you using to read the pins - gpio command, python, , etc. ?
[17:15] <mgottschlag> the problem with reverse engineering is that at the moment I am at a point where I ran out of ideas
[17:15] <Stummi> gordonDrogon, the gpio command
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> Stummi, ok - try gpio mode 0 up ; gpio read 0
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[17:15] <linuxstb> mgottschlag: Does the reverse-engineered stuff inter-operate with the official firmware? i.e. can a standard Pi application (one using Raspbian and the GPU's public APIs) run code on the GPU?
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[17:16] <mgottschlag> we already know the instruction set, and the firmware has a way to upload user programs, so that is already well possible
[17:16] <Stummi> gordonDrogon, ah, got it. thanks
[17:16] <mgottschlag> but the only thing available is the CPU itself (which is a powerful SIMD processor, but not half as powerful as the actual GPU)
[17:16] <gordonDrogon> Stummi, gpio mode 0 up enabled the internal pull-up. Your switch shorts the pin to ground/0v.
[17:16] <gordonDrogon> Stummi, the interal resistor is approx. 50KΩ
[17:17] <megaproxy> any known issues with munin and raspbien?
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[17:18] <gordonDrogon> give it a go & let us know :)
[17:19] <megaproxy> well ive got it working on my kimsufi box as master, and on my server in DC
[17:19] <megaproxy> it just doesnt seem to poll the pi correctly
[17:19] <megaproxy> i can telnet and run the fetch commands fine..
[17:19] <megaproxy> so it is ... working
[17:19] <megaproxy> kinda
[17:20] <gordonDrogon> not used munin myself though.
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[17:20] <gordonDrogon> not a firewall, etc. issue?
[17:21] <megaproxy> well probably, but the fact i can telnet etc should mean its not
[17:21] <megaproxy> as thats how it fetches the info afaik
[17:21] * gordonDrogon nods.
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[17:24] <megaproxy> i think i might have it, it looks like it was a owenership issue
[17:24] * megaproxy waits for the next poll
[17:24] * Armand owns megaproxy
[17:24] <megaproxy> youwish
[17:24] <Armand> lol
[17:24] <Armand> Get back to work!! *whips!*
[17:24] <megaproxy> seems to update every 5 mins
[17:25] * megaproxy is playing with munin
[17:25] <Armand> and plusle ?
[17:25] <megaproxy> yay it works
[17:25] <Armand> \o/
[17:25] <megaproxy> the hell is plusle
[17:26] <Armand> O_O
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[17:33] <gryphraff> Is there a kwik n ezy way to see the total up/down stats for the wired ethernet port?
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[17:33] <megaproxy> install vnstat
[17:34] <megaproxy> that will show usage
[17:34] <gryphraff> Thanks
[17:34] <megaproxy> or bmon will show live usage
[17:34] <megaproxy> like, throughput
[17:34] <gryphraff> More interested in totals, so the first should do.
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[17:46] <gryphraff> vnstat's report is pretty much exactly what I need, just a flat text file with stats. Thanks again.
[17:46] <megaproxy> np :)
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[18:03] <SgrA> Could any Arch Linux users with the June 06 image tell me the name of the network interface with the new naming scheme?
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[18:15] <yggdrasil> hey ugys
[18:15] <gordonDrogon> you mean it's not eth0 ?
[18:15] <yggdrasil> anyone familiar with this cmd ?
[18:15] <yggdrasil> OMX_SetParameter(handle, OMX_IndexConfigBrcmAudioDestination, &arDest)
[18:15] <yggdrasil> im trying to switch to the headphone jack
[18:15] <yggdrasil> Gordon, been reading your page
[18:16] <yggdrasil> good stuff. im going to put a button on my pi.
[18:17] <yggdrasil> im curious about using a single button to enter different commands.
[18:17] <megaproxy> im tempted to put my pi on a floaty thing with a big battery, solar, gps and 3g
[18:17] <megaproxy> then let it drift out to see
[18:17] <megaproxy> sea* to see where it ends up
[18:17] <yggdrasil> so like 2 fast pushes is backup. and 1 push is next and then a 10 second push would be stop or next directory.
[18:18] <gordonDrogon> yggdrasil, you can time between pushes - if you edge trigger an interrupt on it.
[18:18] <mpmc> megaproxy: Wouldn't that cost a bit? What if you lost it (or someone stole it?)
[18:19] <megaproxy> eh, wouldnt cost too much, and i fully expect it to be lost
[18:19] <megaproxy> its going out to sea to drift
[18:19] <megaproxy> i just wana track it for as long as possible
[18:19] <mpmc> A Shark might devour it :p
[18:19] <megaproxy> that would be awesome
[18:19] <megaproxy> put a pi cam on it too
[18:19] <mpmc> I know :p
[18:19] <megaproxy> would break after a hour at sea i bet
[18:20] <megaproxy> mmmmm salty water
[18:20] <gordonDrogon> you can salt/water proof stuff... scuba divers have been doing it for a long time now.
[18:21] <megaproxy> maybe i should send it to space first..
[18:21] <gordonDrogon> making sure it stays afloat is the priority - then you don't need to deal with pressure.
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[18:21] <gordonDrogon> getting data back from the GPS will also be an issue - no 3G out at Sea...
[18:21] <gordonDrogon> so sat. phone - and that will be expensive to lose.
[18:22] <megaproxy> why is nothing cheap?
[18:24] <gordonDrogon> high volume is cheap.
[18:24] <yggdrasil> mega, you may want to look at a um cw radio.
[18:24] <yggdrasil> that can do a half a watt or so.
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[18:25] <megaproxy> ill just shove a pi up a tree and be done with it :(
[18:25] <yggdrasil> would be relatively easy to see .. you just have to send qrss
[18:26] <gordonDrogon> just thinking out loud here: those new clip-boxes from e.g. lakeland are brilliant & waterproof - make a raft from them and have them sealed. even one might be big enough for solar panel, battery, Pi + GPS - glue on a keel.
[18:26] <megaproxy> i could shove it down the river Thames i guess.
[18:26] <gordonDrogon> you'll lose a bit keeping the panel inside the lid, but with no external holes it'll be totally watertight.
[18:27] <gordonDrogon> intersting - go to it's highest tidal point and put it in at the start of an ebb tide.
[18:27] <gordonDrogon> and watch it get stuck in the reeds 50m downstream :)
[18:27] <megaproxy> haha
[18:27] <megaproxy> ill build this: http://i.imgur.com/ikuL6CO.gif and put my pi on it
[18:28] <yggdrasil> http://fivedash.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1&products_id=7&zenid=af69971fb17f09b4a20fa41d4ff8b073
[18:28] <yggdrasil> somethign like that could do what you need.
[18:28] <yggdrasil> you could even set it so that if it broke a squelch it would begin transmitting.
[18:28] <megaproxy> radio is above my head atm
[18:28] <yggdrasil> so you would know you have propogation.
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[18:29] <Armand> megaproxy: we're close enough to the Thames.. there's a pub/restaurant just down the road, right next to the river. ;)
[18:29] <megaproxy> yea :D
[18:30] <yggdrasil> so doesn anyone know how to set omxplayer to play from the headphone jack.
[18:30] <Armand> I have a 20W panel and batteries..
[18:31] <mpmc> Armand: Where about's is this pub you mention?
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[18:32] <Armand> The Thames Riviera, on the A4, Maidenhead.
[18:33] <mpmc> Ah, nowhere near the place I was thinking, just sounded really familiar :)
[18:34] <netsrot> yggdrasil: yes I know
[18:35] <netsrot> yggdrasil: use omxplayer -o local filename.avi
[18:35] <Armand> megaproxy: We'd need some degree of control... there are locks and dams on the way. :(
[18:35] <SgrA> gordonDrogon, Arch Linux came up with a new naming scheme for network interfaces. What used to be eth0 on my deskop is now enp0s7, and what used to be wlan0 is now wlp0s2f1u5.
[18:35] <yggdrasil> net thanks.
[18:36] <SgrA> Could someone post a lspci -v on a model B rev 1.0 board?
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[18:38] <linuxstb> SgrA: Wouldn't that require a PCI bus?
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[18:40] <SgrA> Hmm, I don't know how the Pi works, but the naming scheme is supposed to be based on the address of the device.
[18:40] <SgrA> enp0s7 is 00:07.0 Bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2).
[18:40] <linuxstb> SgrA: There is no PCI on the Pi. USB is over Ethernet.
[18:40] <linuxstb> I mean Ethernet is over USB ;)
[18:41] <mpmc> Lol!
[18:41] <linuxstb> I wish it was that way round ;)
[18:41] <SgrA> :P
[18:41] <mpmc> I think we all do :p
[18:42] <yggdrasil> netsrot: that worked.
[18:42] <netsrot> yggdrasil: I know =)
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[18:43] <gordonDrogon> SgrA, wow... good luck there then.
[18:43] <megaproxy> iz cold!
[18:43] <SgrA> [ 6.145092] systemd-udevd[133]: renamed network interface eth0 to enp0s7
[18:43] <gordonDrogon> Armand, how long to charge your batteries with that panel?
[18:43] <SgrA> I suspect I still could teach it to use a different name.
[18:45] <yggdrasil> i have these videos. and i can play them on my laptop with vlc just fine but they i get invalid frame rate.
[18:45] <yggdrasil> tthey are wmv.
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[18:47] <Armand> gordonDrogon: No idea.. I've got about 28Ah of battery.
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[18:48] <Armand> The panel peaks at about 1.1A in good sun.
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[18:50] <netsrot> yggdrasil: I think only very few video formats work on the rpi because of it's slow cpu.
[18:51] <yggdrasil> i see.
[18:52] <gordonDrogon> Armand, good to know. I'm after a 100w+ panel and about 80Ah of batterys for my outdoor project...
[18:52] <gordonDrogon> Armand, depends on what I can afford for it.
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[18:52] <Armand> I'm on a somewhat lower scale, but that's certainly doable.
[18:52] <ricksl> The video codecs that work are h.264 and you can buy the ability to play mpeg2 video
[18:53] <Armand> But, my power requirements will scale with the project.. I might end up with about 1500W of panels. :P
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> Armand, my aim is to power laptop + Pi(s) plus wi-fi, etc. in a summer house...
[18:54] <yggdrasil> what are you doing armand ?
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[18:54] <Armand> Same thing I do every night, yggdrasil... Try to take over the world.
[18:54] <ricksl> I have a question, armand, do you know of a good sla battery charge controller
[18:55] <gordonDrogon> Armand, you are the brain and I claim my free fiver.
[18:55] <Armand> Not really, I just bought a cheap (enough) one on ebay.
[18:55] <ricksl> I have the hardest time finding absorbed glass mat battery charger controllers
[18:56] <Armand> ??
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[18:56] <ricksl> absorbed glass mat, its the standard for sealed lead acid batteries
[18:56] <Armand> Ok
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[18:56] <Armand> My batteries are lead acid.. they work fine with the controller I bought.. even though it's a lighting controller.
[18:57] <ricksl> there are flooded (the kind you have in your car) and then ones that might use a paste or gel would be in things like aircraft or an uninteruptable power supply
[18:57] <Armand> They are from a UPS.
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> SLAs need to be charged slightly slower than wet plates - you need to avoid gassing.
[18:59] <ricksl> and they have a "false" floating voltage, so sometimes chargers will cut off thinking it is full when it isn't
[18:59] <gordonDrogon> make your own charger...
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[19:00] <gordonDrogon> wish I still had my old milk float batteries. beauties.
[19:00] <ricksl> Some people are just looking for a means to an end.
[19:01] <gordonDrogon> I need a means to work in my garden in the end :)
[19:02] <yggdrasil> are the codecs purchased good for just one pi or is it per entity ?
[19:02] <gordonDrogon> and wifey wants some lights and a water feature...
[19:03] <ricksl> they are specific to each pi, so you couldn't use the codec on another pi, its tied to each serial number
[19:03] <yggdrasil> oh i see per board
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[19:05] <Armand> yggdrasil: I'm building a small-scale solar webhost.
[19:06] <yggdrasil> ahh cool.
[19:06] <yggdrasil> so a ... webserver thats solar powered?
[19:06] <Armand> Yessir
[19:07] <Armand> I have a switching controller that turns on a backup power supply if the batteries drop.
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[19:10] <yggdrasil> the project that i really want to eventually get to is an audio visualizer.
[19:10] <yggdrasil> just something that displays audio visualization based off of mic input
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[19:13] <yggdrasil> has anyone tried piband?
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[19:18] <yggdrasil> so which license do i need for wmv ?
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[19:25] <mpmc> VC1 I think?
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[19:38] <wroberts1> i'm able to read GPIO5(24) with "gpio readall", but in my program (sys mode), cant see level of input pin
[19:38] <TheDracle> So, is anyone here familiar with the FIQ branch?
[19:38] <TheDracle> I'm trying to record/play back audio on a USB device, and when I record and play simultaneously, the output is jibberish.
[19:39] <TheDracle> The FIQ branch seems to fix the sputtery audio playback via a USB device, but this doesn't seem to be related to audio rate, or interrupt latency.
[19:39] <TheDracle> But instead some kind of bug potentially.
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[19:44] <ShorTie> what does top say about it ??
[19:45] <TheDracle> Are you asking me?
[19:45] <ShorTie> ya
[19:45] <TheDracle> Arecord is using 2-14% of the CPU.
[19:45] <yggdrasil> has anyone tried pibang ?
[19:45] <TheDracle> I can put it in background.
[19:45] <TheDracle> Ctrl-Z bg it, and try playing, with the same effect.
[19:45] <TheDracle> It's literally the effect of the device module being opened for recording.
[19:46] <TheDracle> Actually, Ctrl-Z with no bg.
[19:46] <TheDracle> So, it's halted.
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[19:47] <gordonDrogon> wroberts1, in gpio readall - which 24 are you seeing?
[19:47] <TheDracle> I think, perhaps on the non-FIQ branch this doesn't happen.
[19:47] <TheDracle> Because I can hear distorted audio both ways.
[19:47] <TheDracle> That resembles my voice minorly.
[19:47] <TheDracle> The FIQ branch makes it so I can hear very clear audio when I'm not recording.
[19:48] <TheDracle> But, seems to break duplex.
[19:48] <wroberts1> gpio 5 = 24
[19:48] <linuxstb> yggdrasil: VC-1 license works with some WMV versions, but I don't think all.
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> wroberts1, ok - so in sys mode you still digitalRead (24) ;
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[19:48] <yggdrasil> i see
[19:48] <yggdrasil> thanks.
[19:48] <TheDracle> So, everything is hidden in snd-usb-audio :(
[19:49] <TheDracle> Why does this module need to be closed source?
[19:50] <wroberts1> gordonDrogon: my program in sys mode, digitalRead(24) gives, 0.. but gpio readall shows correct level
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> wroberts1, does gpio exports show the pin exported correctly? If not, then gpio export 24 input
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> wroberts1, you still need to do the export command, even if it's already in input mode.
[19:52] <wroberts1> ah, 24 is not exported, is there a way to tell using function call?
[19:52] <pksato> wroberts1: show you code. use some past site.
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[19:53] <gordonDrogon> wroberts1, no - system ("/usr/local/bin/gpio export 24 input") ; will work /before/ wiringPiSetupSys ();
[19:54] <gordonDrogon> pksato, no realy need - I'm getting better at debugging these issues ;-)
[19:55] <gordonDrogon> the issue at hand, is that wiringPiSetupSys () reads the list of exported pins - only then if it finds a pin pre-exported can it read or write it. The gpio command doesn't use the sys interface, so "knows" if it's direction and value.
[19:56] <gordonDrogon> wroberts1, you could tell if it's exported by seeing if the file existsi - look for /sys/class/gpio/gpio24/value - that's what wiringPi looks for.
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[19:58] <wroberts1> ok, all is good
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[20:04] <pksato> oh... for (sys mode) I understood was using direct access to gpio sysfs. not from wiringpi.
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[20:09] <gordonDrogon> pksato, sys mode uses /sys/class, but they need to be exported first.
[20:09] <gordonDrogon> and to export needs root access - which the gpio program does for you.
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[20:47] <djshotglass> how do you check the integrity of the sdcard
[20:47] <djshotglass> getting pretty slow performance
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[20:52] <Encrypt> djshotglass, fsck?
[20:53] <gordonDrogon> can only do that in another Linux PC though.
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[20:56] <Encrypt> Yes, that's the problem...
[20:56] <Encrypt> Or why not using a LiveCD of Ubuntu? ;)
[20:56] <djshotglass> gparted even i guess
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[20:57] <pksato> to forece fsck on boot, shutdown -r -F now
[20:57] <Encrypt> gparted won't help you to know how the filesystem is...
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[21:11] <zproc> hello
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[21:11] <zproc> is there some problem with raspbian repositories?
[21:11] <djshotglass> fsck returns instantly saying card is clean
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[21:11] <djshotglass> is there a more in depths testing of each byte of the card?
[21:12] <pksato> djshotglass: badblocks
[21:13] <gordonDrogon> and you can run badblocks 'live' too.
[21:13] <pksato> to do a read test: badblocks -vv /dev/mmcblk0
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[21:13] <gordonDrogon> sudo badblocks -c 256 -s /dev/mmcblk0
[21:14] <pksato> a non destructive write test badblocks -nvv /dev/mmcblk0
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[21:14] <gordonDrogon> wouldn't personally recommend that on a live system though ...
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[21:16] <gordonDrogon> zproc, doesn't seem to be...
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[21:29] <niddam99> hi everybody
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[21:39] <gordonDrogon> evening.
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[21:53] <djshotglass> my powered usb hub powers my rpi lol
[21:53] <djshotglass> is that bad?
[21:53] <Encrypt> No, that's good! :)
[21:53] <applegekko> yup its going to emplode, be careful1
[21:53] <djshotglass> i did not realize power went both ways in usb
[21:53] <Encrypt> Mine is powered by the USB part of a Hard Drive dock...
[21:54] <ozzzy> my hub won't power my Pi
[21:54] <djshotglass> what hub
[21:54] <djshotglass> i want one what doesnt send power back
[21:54] <djshotglass> means the power and the usb are seperated
[21:55] <netsrot> it gets power from on of the regular usb ports?
[21:55] <netsrot> one of
[21:55] <djshotglass> im hooking up 10 usb wifi cards so i need a 10A usb hub
[21:55] <ozzzy> http://www.togastro.com/ozzzy/images/pi_case0.jpg <-- mine is powered by a 5v switchmode supply
[21:55] <djshotglass> will 10A going back into the rpis usb hub hurt it?
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[21:56] <SpeedEvil> djshotglass: yes
[21:56] <SpeedEvil> It may melt it
[21:56] <SpeedEvil> Define what you mean by 'going back' though
[21:56] <djshotglass> well i unpluged my pi
[21:56] <netsrot> would openbox run just as fast as the default desktop in raspbian?
[21:56] <ozzzy> how are you planning to get 10A through a Pi
[21:56] <djshotglass> and its still on
[21:56] <djshotglass> only connnected to the usb hub
[21:56] <ozzzy> it probably only draws 600mA
[21:57] <ozzzy> if that
[21:57] <djshotglass> powered hub ozzzy
[21:57] <ozzzy> so?
[21:57] <djshotglass> do i need to draw a picute/
[21:57] <djshotglass> pic
[21:57] <ozzzy> pretty much.... you could hook up a 100A 5v supply and the Pi will still only draw 600mA
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[21:58] <ozzzy> your pi is getting it's 5v from the powered hub....
[21:58] <Encrypt> Is there a kind of Nuclear material near the Raspberry Pi ? :p
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[21:59] <netsrot> looks like a phone, it's probably not nuclear =)
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[22:02] <derjanni> Good evening!
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[22:02] <derjanni> I installed Asterisk and everything works fine, but my Raspbian does not have Asterisks SMSQ - where can I get it?
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[22:03] <derjanni> :...-(
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[22:11] <SgrA> Anyone use Arch Linux on their Pi? The latest June 6 image?
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[22:15] <shiftplusone> SgrA, yup
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[22:16] <SgrA> Did you have any problems with the network? My Pi runs headless and I can't seem to connect to it via ssh.
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[22:17] <gordonDrogon> 10 Wi-Fi cards on a Pi? What on earth for..
[22:17] <shiftplusone> SgrA, I have seen talk of network trouble with that image on the forum, but it is tethered through my phone, so I haven't run into that problem.
[22:18] <shiftplusone> And I have seen a fix, I just don't remember what it was.
[22:18] <derjanni> can someone do me a favour and compile asterisk's smsq.so for me?
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[22:18] <derjanni> its not in the repo
[22:18] <SgrA> Oh, does it use the new naming scheme for network devices? If yes, could you please give the new name of the network interface?
[22:20] <shiftplusone> SgrA, try this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dhcpcd#How_to_fix_it_.28The_good_way.29
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[22:21] <derjanni> where did is the src I installed with asterisk-dev located at?
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[22:26] <SgrA> I just tried the TCP window scaling fix, but it didn't help.
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[22:27] <shiftplusone> hm
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[22:28] <SgrA> /etc/netctl/ethernet-dhcp has Interface=eth0, but Arch Linux recently switched to http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/
[22:28] <SgrA> I suspect that might be the problem.
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[22:29] <shiftplusone> Hm, not sure that that's it. Can't check now, but I am sure it's still eth0.
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[22:30] <shiftplusone> SgrA, try pepedog's post here http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=47071#p370009
[22:30] <SgrA> Hmm, I had a little problems initially when eth0 on my desktop became enp0s7.
[22:31] <SgrA> One esc
[22:31] <SgrA> sec*
[22:31] <shiftplusone> unless it's not static, nvrm
[22:31] <shiftplusone> ignore that
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[22:31] <SgrA> I'm currently trying to get DHCP up.
[22:31] <ShorTie> ya, thats like a udev-200 thing with the naming
[22:31] <shiftplusone> Yeah, I give up =(.
[22:32] <SgrA> The problem is that I don't have a USB keyboard right now, so I have to power it off everything and pop it into a USB microSD reader to edit the files.
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[22:34] <shiftplusone> SgrA, pacman -U http://us.mirror.archlinuxarm.org/armv7h/core/netctl-1.1-1-any.pkg.tar.xz do anything?
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[22:34] <shiftplusone> ah wait... you can't
[22:34] <SgrA> I can't, yup.
[22:35] <shiftplusone> got a serial adapter?
[22:35] <SgrA> The names are supposed to be predictable, so eth0 which became enp0s7 was due to the fact that 00:07.0 Bridge: NVIDIA Corporation MCP61 Ethernet (rev a2)
[22:35] <SgrA> Nope.
[22:35] <derjanni> I am to dumb to compile it myself: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=66&t=47380
[22:35] <derjanni> Can someone help with this?
[22:36] <SgrA> My USB WiFi adapter which is on USB (00:02.0 USB controller) became wlp0s2f1u5.
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[22:37] <SgrA> I think I should be able to determine the name of the device, if that's the problem, if I know the address of the controller.
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[22:38] <SgrA> Another solution was to change the name at startup using udev, but it requires the MAC. I don't have access to that either.
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[22:40] <leming> arch linux arm does not use the persistent naming, the interface is eth0
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[22:41] <shiftplusone> Maybe enable logging to sd card and see why things fail.
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[22:42] <leming> or replace the netctl eth0 profile with a static configuration
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[22:43] <djshotglass> hmm
[22:43] <djshotglass> so when i plug the hub into my pi and disconnect the power it stays on running off hub
[22:43] <djshotglass> but it wont boot from the hub
[22:44] <SgrA> How do I tell systemd to use the static configuration?
[22:44] <djshotglass> has to be booted with microusb
[22:44] <SgrA> I'll have to symlink myself because I can't do anything while the system is on.
[22:44] <leming> just put a static configuration in place for eth0
[22:44] <leming> netctl will find it
[22:44] <SgrA> shiftplusone, How can I enable logging?
[22:44] <SgrA> Oh okay.
[22:44] <djshotglass> also where can i get some sensors
[22:45] <djshotglass> temp/humidity/ph
[22:45] <shiftplusone> I don't remember exactly, it's something like /etc/systemd/journald.conf and you can change the settings there... but I don't think that's the exact name/path
[22:47] <SgrA> Yay, now it's on the network.
[22:47] <SgrA> The static configuration worked.
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[22:47] <shiftplusone> Would be good to know why dhcpcd failed though
[22:48] <SgrA> Yeah, I'll check..
[22:48] <leming> crappy dhcpd, most likely
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[22:48] <SgrA> Connection refused on port 22 for some reason, when logging in as root on ssh.
[22:48] <HonkeyGenius> speaking of network setup. is there a way to have the pi determine which LAN it is hooked up to and change its network settings appropriately?
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[22:49] <HonkeyGenius> on one network the addresses are 192.x.x.x and the other the addresses are 10.x.x.x
[22:50] <HonkeyGenius> i'd like it to toggle between the two (possibly more in the future) static ip's
[22:50] <pksato> HonkeyGenius: with out a dhcp server on net?
[22:50] <SgrA> I suspect root login might be disabled, I'll check SSH server configuration.
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[22:50] <Bushmills> HonkeyGenius: that's what route is for
[22:50] <Bushmills> (to control through which interface your traffic goes)
[22:50] <HonkeyGenius> there is a dhcp server on both networks but i want the pi's to be static so i don't have to figure out what it's address is every time
[22:51] <pksato> HonkeyGenius: set static ip for rpi on dhcp server (router or other)
[22:52] <HonkeyGenius> pksato, that would work for one of the networks but the other i have no control over.
[22:52] <Bushmills> i'd suggest to set one interface as default, and for the other, when up, add two routes 0.0.0.0/1 and 128.0.0.0/1, which effectively override yoour default router
[22:52] <Bushmills> route
[22:52] <pksato> but, a good dhcp server always lease a same ip to mac address.
[22:53] <Bushmills> advantage is that these two routes can be removed, without affecting your original default route
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[22:53] <Bushmills> through metric of default routes, something similar could be achieved.
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[22:55] <djshotglass> where can i get some temp/humidity/ph sensors
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[22:56] <Bushmills> other than purchasing in a shop, or mail ordering, you mean?
[22:57] <pksato> but, debian network/interfaes have a struture to select alternative interface settings depending of some criteria.
[22:57] <HonkeyGenius> pksato, please go on.
[22:58] <pksato> only know what 'man interfaces' tell me.
[22:58] <HonkeyGenius> Bushmills, thank you for the suggestion. i think it is slightly over my head, but i'm more than willing to go read up on it.
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[22:58] <HonkeyGenius> pksato, ah ok right.
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[22:59] <pksato> this is map options
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[23:04] <djshotglass> Bushmills dont be a douche
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[23:06] <Bushmills> you want us to google shops for you??
[23:06] <djshotglass> no
[23:06] <djshotglass> google results dont tell you who has the quaility parts
[23:06] <djshotglass> people do.
[23:06] <djshotglass> again, dont be a douche
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[23:07] <djshotglass> not my fault you are miserable
[23:07] <djshotglass> get a gym pass and work that shit out bro
[23:07] <shiftplusone> djshotglass, if you don't like someone, there's /ignore, please don't be hostile.
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[23:07] <Bushmills> "where can i get some.." ... that's strikingly detailed specs you're giving. ah. high quality parts it is you're looking for.
[23:07] <Bushmills> now that's some extra information. go on...
[23:07] <Armand> Well, nothing so douchey as asking someone else to do ALL the legwork for you.
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[23:09] <djshotglass> the first 5 pages on google are purple links
[23:09] <djshotglass> i have been looking nothing looks promising
[23:09] <gordonDrogon> djshotglass, family friendly channel... please tone it down if possible. Rules: http://alturl.com/jc97e
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[23:09] <SgrA> I still have connection refused on port 22. nmap shows that the port is closed.
[23:09] <donta> I got my raspberrypi!
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[23:09] <djshotglass> gordonDrogon yes, shiftplusone already covered that
[23:09] <gordonDrogon> djshotglass, good-oh!
[23:10] <HonkeyGenius> and that's it for our latest session of "what's douchy'er". join is next time as we discuss the finer points of trolling.
[23:10] <Armand> trollololol
[23:10] <djshotglass> SgrA that would be your os not the pi
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[23:10] <SgrA> I know.
[23:10] <HonkeyGenius> congrats donta
[23:10] <djshotglass> so you might want to include your os
[23:10] <djshotglass> when asking for help
[23:10] <djshotglass> as its not generic
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[23:10] <donta> thanks :)
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[23:11] <djshotglass> i just installed arch linux and ssh boots great maybe you should try it
[23:11] <SgrA> Well, I'm on Arch Linux.
[23:11] <SgrA> Yeah, there we go.
[23:11] <djshotglass> can you ping it?
[23:12] <djshotglass> probably wrong ip
[23:12] <SgrA> Yep.
[23:12] <djshotglass> check dhcp server leases
[23:12] <SgrA> I'm using static IP.
[23:12] <djshotglass> device should be called alarmip
[23:12] <Armand> The connection will be refused, if the port is closed. :/
[23:13] <djshotglass> systemctl restart sshd
[23:13] <HonkeyGenius> *in my best Moss voice* "have you tried turning it of and on again?"
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[23:13] <djshotglass> or reboot pi if you dont have monitor/keyboard/mouse
[23:13] <SgrA> It's headless, I've rebooted several times, etc, etc.
[23:13] <djshotglass> sounds like you broke the network config
[23:13] <djshotglass> start over
[23:13] <Armand> HonkeyGenius: If I'm ever on life support.. unplug me. Then plug me back in, see if that works.
[23:13] <djshotglass> or hook up monitor/keyboard/mouse
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[23:13] <HonkeyGenius> will do!
[23:13] <Armand> ^_^
[23:14] <djshotglass> also #archlinux #archlinux-arm will be a lot more helpful with this type of thing
[23:14] <djshotglass> for future problems\
[23:14] <gordonDrogon> pacman -S openssh <- might be the rune needed if it's not installed.
[23:14] <djshotglass> its installed
[23:14] <ricksl> Gordon I need help sourcing parts
[23:14] <djshotglass> and enabled by default
[23:15] <djshotglass> unless he removed it or disabled it
[23:15] <ricksl> wait you aren't in the us are you, nvmind
[23:15] <gordonDrogon> UK here.
[23:15] <gordonDrogon> mouser? digicom?
[23:15] <gordonDrogon> farnell, RS ...
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[23:15] <ricksl> I know mouser, digikey and farnell is newark here.
[23:16] <ricksl> I need a specific kit that won't be sold there, play with the teensy yet?
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[23:16] <gordonDrogon> teensy? nope.
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[23:17] <ricksl> hm, its pretty feature rich for the price, I want to put together a kit for it but its cheaper in some places more expensive in others, and I am also buying other stuff as well
[23:17] <ricksl> trying to balance shipping costs from 3 different distributors
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[23:18] <gordonDrogon> it's just aother arduino, I guess.
[23:19] <steve_rox2> got fun?
[23:19] <ricksl> Yeah but they have the teensy 3.0 which has integrated rtc, and all the teensys use an integrated usb controller so they can emulate keyboards and joysticks
[23:19] <gordonDrogon> seems cheap at $16 though.
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[23:19] <mgottschlag> <3 freescale freedom, that one even is arduino shield compatible :)
[23:19] <ricksl> and teensy 3.0 is arm cortex
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[23:20] <mgottschlag> (and has a similar MCU to teensy 3.0)
[23:20] <ricksl> I was looking for the form factor too though, need something small
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[23:22] <ricksl> so I was ordering stuff from adafruit and wanted to bundle the order since they have a wii nunchuck breakout that I love, and I bought a bunch of wii classic controllers for cheap, but they have high markup on the teensy, and they don't carry any rtc crystals
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[23:31] <HonkeyGenius> have fun yall
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[23:39] <chaotix> hi... i decided to try out the pidora image shown on raspberrypi.org/downloads however, by defaut, the ethernet is not recognized... the yellow lights do not light up on the pi the way they do in raspbian and raspbmc, and i cant seem to find any documentation on this
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[23:41] <chithead> maybe ask in their irc channel
[23:42] <SgrA> I had to regenerate the private SSH keys to make SSH work on the new Arch Linux image.
[23:42] <SgrA> Earlier sshd failed because it couldn't load the private keys.
[23:43] <chaotix> kk
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