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IRC Log for 2013-06-18

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[0:05] <donta> how do I change my rpi's ssh password?
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[0:06] <Encrypt> donta, Just type "passwd" when connected ;)
[0:06] <Encrypt> donta, Maybe "sudo passwd"...
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[0:07] <donta> tryiong
[0:07] <donta> *trying
[0:08] <donta> Encrypt: I'm still getting access denied via putty
[0:08] <Encrypt> Did you type teh correct user and password ?
[0:09] <Encrypt> pi / raspberry (if you're using Raspbian)
[0:10] <chithead> http://elinux.org/RPi_Distributions has a list of default passwords for the various distros
[0:10] <donta> stupid moment, I had the wrong user
[0:10] <donta> ty
[0:10] <donta> I used raspberrypi, not pi
[0:10] <donta> lol
[0:10] <Encrypt> Is it the first time you connect to your pi ? :)
[0:10] <netsrot> I mixed up ip with pi =)
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[0:11] <donta> via ssh yes
[0:11] <donta> I got it an hour ago
[0:11] <Encrypt> Have fun then ;)
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[0:11] <donta> get went through the gui to setup shh
[0:11] <donta> ssh
[0:11] <donta> thanks!
[0:11] <Encrypt> donta, Are you planning to use it as a server? :)
[0:11] <donta> yes
[0:11] <donta> personal stuff only
[0:12] <donta> no media
[0:12] <Encrypt> Ok :)
[0:12] <donta> to update I use apt-get update
[0:12] <donta> correct?
[0:13] <netsrot> and then apt-get upgrade after to install the updates
[0:13] <Encrypt> "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" to have the latest packages
[0:13] <ShorTie> ah, live on the wild side and play as root
[0:13] <donta> how would I default to root?
[0:14] <Encrypt> Well... kinda dangerous...
[0:14] <ShorTie> su and password is to much to type ??
[0:14] <donta> oh, okay
[0:14] <donta> lol
[0:14] <donta> yes :)
[0:14] <Encrypt> To log in as root, just "sudo su"
[0:15] <Encrypt> "exit" to log out from the root session
[0:15] <donta> ty
[0:15] <Encrypt> (and go back to the "pi" session)
[0:15] <donta> kk
[0:15] <donta> reboot to restart?
[0:15] <netsrot> sudo -i does the same thing
[0:15] <Encrypt> donta, "sudo reboot" ;)
[0:15] <donta> any reason to shutdown?
[0:16] <donta> haha, I have to remember sudo
[0:16] <Encrypt> Hum... to have a life? :p
[0:16] <donta> lol
[0:16] <Encrypt> :p
[0:16] <Encrypt> Mine is on 24/24 7/7
[0:16] <donta> I feel like I'm going to be playing on this for a while
[0:16] <Encrypt> Working as a web / mail server ;)
[0:16] <donta> good thing I'm off work
[0:16] <donta> really, for mail?
[0:17] <donta> wouldn't you fear it'd go down?
[0:17] <Encrypt> Ya... "connected" to our website domains...
[0:17] <donta> why not use gmail's servers with an apps account?
[0:17] <donta> oh okay
[0:17] <donta> how can I check temps?
[0:17] <steve_rox> havent figured out how to create a email server on rpi yet
[0:17] <Encrypt> donta, But I use "Orange Mail" for my "official" e-mail address ;)
[0:18] <Encrypt> donta, Temperature?
[0:18] <donta> yes
[0:18] <donta> sorry
[0:18] <Encrypt> sudo vcgencmd measure_temp
[0:18] <yggdrasil> how do i give my user acess to fb0 ?
[0:19] <donta> I'm going to start a document with the commands...
[0:19] <Encrypt> Ya, don't hesitate to do that!!!
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[0:19] <Encrypt> And you can even write down the steps you followed to get your pi working!!
[0:20] <steve_rox> that tempature check cmd dont work on my main rpi
[0:20] <donta> lol!
[0:20] <steve_rox> works on my other tho
[0:20] <Encrypt> Because my mother unplugged it while hoovering...
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[0:20] <Encrypt> The filesystem got totally broken, I had to reinstall everything...
[0:20] <steve_rox> vcgencmd is not reconised as a valid command
[0:20] <donta> steve_rox: it worked for me
[0:20] <donta> running at 44.9c
[0:20] <steve_rox> works on my other rpi
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[0:21] <Encrypt> But since I didn't write down anything I had done, I spent 2 days resetting it to the configuration I had done... :(
[0:21] <steve_rox> not sure how to fix it missing that command
[0:21] <Encrypt> 50°C for me
[0:22] <donta> :(
[0:22] <donta> do you know how I can change ssh port?
[0:22] <donta> I already have 22 forwarded...
[0:23] <Encrypt> donta, On your router?
[0:23] <Encrypt> Didn't you say it would be for local use only?
[0:23] <donta> 22 is forwarded on my router to a different server
[0:24] <donta> yes, but I want to access it via home :)
[0:24] <Encrypt> If you connect SSH to the internet on your Pi, then have a look at fail2ban
[0:24] <Encrypt> Otherwise, bruteforcers will have fun :D
[0:24] <donta> :/
[0:25] <donta> Looks like I'll be taking it home with me tonight then
[0:25] <Encrypt> I followed port 22 from my router (connected to the internet) to my Pi
[0:25] <steve_rox> i have a small fan inside my project box for rpi used to vent the ambient air
[0:26] <steve_rox> without the fan i got it to 62'c maybe more
[0:26] <Encrypt> I got bruteforce attacks very quickly...
[0:26] <donta> wow
[0:26] <Encrypt> steve_rox, Have a look at the Iceberg Case / PiHolder one
[0:26] <steve_rox> nah the case im using is one ive made myself
[0:27] <Encrypt> But adding a fan consumes a lot of energy...
[0:27] <steve_rox> http://www.zen74792.zen.co.uk/images/P1060356_A.jpg this is it
[0:27] <steve_rox> think it was 20ma extra
[0:27] <Encrypt> FIne :)
[0:27] <Encrypt> I'm sorry guys but I have to go... It seems it is 00:27 a.m. here :D
[0:28] <steve_rox> have fun
[0:28] <donta> Later
[0:28] <Encrypt> See you! ;)
[0:28] <steve_rox> 40'c
[0:28] <donta> I better go now too :)
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[0:28] <steve_rox> everyone vanishing
[0:28] <rikkib> My case http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-dev.jpg
[0:28] <donta> haha, I'll be on later
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[0:29] <steve_rox> thats a case? looks liike a full kit
[0:31] <steve_rox> ive gotta carve some more holes into mine to add switches soon
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[0:32] <steve_rox> so you can manually enable/disable lcd or fan etc
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[0:35] <rikkib> That is just part of my stuff... I have 6 RPi 3 installed in clients premises. http://122.61.65.146/
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[0:35] <steve_rox> oh
[0:35] <steve_rox> trying to decide what kinda battery to use on my rpi project if any
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[0:36] <rikkib> Lion
[0:36] <steve_rox> right now im powering it off a old hp printer psu
[0:37] <mpmc> rikkib: Nice setup you have there :)
[0:37] <steve_rox> was looking at a 1.2 AH 12V batt but it probly wont last too long
[0:37] <steve_rox> the rpi setup needs 7V minimum at about 700ma if i rember right
[0:37] <rikkib> In use two methods.... Plug packs and DC-DC converters
[0:37] <ricksl> steve do you live in the us
[0:38] <steve_rox> not that i know of ;)
[0:38] <ricksl> i was going to suggest a regional battery retailer that has good ones but since you are gonna be smug about it
[0:38] <chainey> rikkib are your pi's uploading images to an intermediary server, or are you hosting the jpegs straigt off the pi's?
[0:38] <rikkib> The cameras in the PC recycling companies place have been running for 6 months without a problem
[0:38] <steve_rox> based on this website calculator it would last 1 hour 20 mins
[0:39] <steve_rox> i dunnos
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[0:40] <rikkib> chainey, The RPi run off off nfs and run motion. The nfs server acts as an aggregation point and also runs motion
[0:40] <steve_rox> been trying to revive a older 12v lead acid battery , had mixed results
[0:40] <chainey> nice..
[0:41] <rikkib> http://122.61.65.146:8081 http://122.61.65.146:8082
[0:41] <steve_rox> managed to get away without burning myself with acid
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[0:42] <rikkib> The cam Rpi has 2gb sd card with just the boot partition.
[0:42] <rikkib> read only
[0:42] <steve_rox> that reminds me i have to fit the rpi cam into that project box somehow
[0:43] <rikkib> The nfs sever is just a standard PC running debian 6
[0:43] <chainey> u usin zoneminder?
[0:43] <rikkib> No
[0:44] <chainey> by the way, thats' a nice Sun rack in :8081 :D
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[0:44] <rikkib> The cams come in under $100NZD and the server is a second hand pc not all that powerful
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[0:45] <steve_rox> my lappy cant download the image fast enough , hence the refresh script is refreshing too early
[0:45] <rikkib> The warehouse is full of racks and I think there is a about four of the sun racks
[0:46] <rikkib> I may grab one of the sun racks for my workshop here.
[0:47] <chainey> i just got rid of my apc 3/4. had it tricked out with arduino temp sensor that mechanically controlled 4 vari fans. also had rgb led strips that changed color based on temp.
[0:47] <chainey> time to make another :)
[0:49] <chainey> damn, NZ. guess i'm not stopping by.
[0:49] <rikkib> I want two rack systems.... One for computers and one for audio/recording studio stuff
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[0:53] <rikkib> I have just finished writing a $750 document so the PC recycling co owes me. I may just take a few of his toys... A have my eye on a Bass guitar amp (100W)
[0:55] <chainey> heh.. sounds like my work area. even mix of systems and music stuff.
[0:56] <rikkib> I play electric guitar and also have a keyboard (midi) to play stuff.
[0:56] <rikkib> Used to have a Bass many years ago before it was stolen.
[0:57] <rikkib> If I get a Bass amp the guitar will follow.
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[1:04] <jvboy> rikkib those urls are real time images?
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[1:04] <rikkib> 4 second delay
[1:04] <jvboy> nice
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[1:04] <rikkib> about
[1:05] <jvboy> how do you do that?
[1:05] <rikkib> motion
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[1:05] <rikkib> old kernel
[1:05] <rikkib> nfs boot
[1:05] <jvboy> and equipment?
[1:05] <jvboy> have some article?
[1:05] <rikkib> short answer
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[1:05] <rikkib> two rpi and a pc running debian 6
[1:06] <jvboy> why the pc?
[1:06] <rikkib> and motion to aggregate the two streams
[1:06] <rikkib> nfs and aggrigation
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[1:07] <rikkib> So base url gets you the aggregated streams and using the port (8081 & 8082) gets you the rpi cams directly
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[1:09] <steve_rox> yeah i cant download em fast enough
[1:09] <rikkib> Use vlc
[1:09] <ParkerR> Is the connection is bad, VLC isn't going to do anything to make it load faster
[1:09] <rikkib> It will buffer so you don't get part images
[1:10] <ParkerR> *If the
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[1:10] <ParkerR> Most other things buffer anyways
[1:10] <rikkib> Well... It is just on adsl...
[1:11] <rikkib> Not even sure if it is FS/FS
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[1:14] <rikkib> It is a horses for courses thing... A simple system, remote view on Sundays to watch crims breaking in (Go one a few months ago) and techs working on Sat can monitor the front yard and reception area from their work bench
[1:15] <rikkib> The building runs a monitored alarm... Security needs covered.
[1:16] <chainey> good practical use for rpi's. better (and cheaper) than a locked down axis net cam. u can shell in, net boot, etc.
[1:16] <chainey> good stuff
[1:16] <rikkib> Yep
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[1:16] <rikkib> Plus you can have web services on the aggregation server
[1:17] <rikkib> Give me a moment and I will check uptime
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[1:19] <rikkib> One: 11:19:20 up 38 days, 13 min, 1 user, load average: 0.15, 0.05, 0.06
[1:20] <steve_rox> i only got 26 days on mine
[1:20] <rikkib> Two: 11:20:10 up 44 days, 20:26, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.05
[1:21] <rikkib> Server: 10:59:05 up 46 days, 22:03, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
[1:21] <rikkib> So that was the last time I played with the system
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[1:22] <chainey> this guy is running off of solar/bat, 135 right now. http://pi.qcontinuum.com/project.html
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[1:22] <chainey> not my project.. someone else
[1:23] <rikkib> Hmmm this machine 11:23:01 up 74 days, 52 min, 11 users, load average: 0.07, 0.07, 0.04
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[1:25] <rikkib> I have been running RPi now for near a year... I see nothing to say the RPi is not stable as running Raspian
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[1:27] <rikkib> Pity running a cam is the only thing I can find a use for although I have another project involving gate openers but that has stalled
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[1:33] <steve_rox> rpi seems idle at 44''c
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[1:42] <n3hxs-2> rikkib, you can control your trains with your PI
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[2:20] <rikkib> My train = Kenwood TS2000 I would like to control that and other aux equipment (rotor) with a RPi
[2:20] <maxinux> hehehe
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[2:21] <maxinux> you may want to use a dedicated arduino for the rotor
[2:21] <maxinux> and talk over i2c or serial
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[2:22] <rikkib> I have other stuff namely MC9S08 and STM32V gear that is better than arduino
[2:22] <rikkib> high speed spi is my preference
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[2:23] <rikkib> Been to busy with other things to do much with the RPi of late
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[2:26] <rikkib> I need to re-size 15 images for a presentation today
[2:26] <SpeedEvil> rikkib: Beaglebone and its PRUs are interesting for this sort of stuff
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[2:27] <SpeedEvil> I was just considering using it for an engine controller.
[2:27] <rikkib> Hmmm never played with those hobby type boards
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[2:28] <rikkib> Engine cotrol is the realm of Freescale
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[2:29] <rikkib> can bus
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[2:30] <SpeedEvil> rikkib: yeha - this was for retrofitting a single cylinder generator
[2:30] <SpeedEvil> In principle, I suspect it could be done with a 556
[2:31] <Donta> I'm installing ZNC on my rpi now :)
[2:31] <Donta> http://pi.gadgetoid.com/post/042-setting-up-znc-irc-bouncer-on-the-raspberry-pi
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[2:38] <Firehopper> http://www.flickr.com/photos/firehopper/sets/72157634187301680/ < this is what I came home from work to see.. dad splurged, and he gives me hell for buying little things.
[2:40] <SpeedEvil> well, with those payments.
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[2:49] <ozzzy> why would anyone buy a corvette
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[3:24] <nerdboy> evenin'
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[3:24] <ricksl> don't be insensitive to those who live in other timezones
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[3:53] <Donta> is there any ZNC 1.0 for rpi?
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[4:12] <Gallomimia> Donta: i bet it will compile easily
[4:13] <Donta> Gallomimia: Thanks I was talking to TheLordOfTime... he offered to help me with it :)
[4:14] <Donta> I can't open the prt until tomorrow though...
[4:14] <Gallomimia> has anyone heard about this BeagleBone Black? similar device to rpi
[4:14] <Gallomimia> started a revolution :) i like it
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[4:16] <plugwash> There are some similarities between the beaglebone black and the Pi yes
[4:16] <plugwash> also major differences though
[4:18] <plugwash> In particular the beaglebone black has a lot more IO BUT you lose much of that IO if you want to use the HDMI output because the HDMI framer is a seperate chip and it shares lines with the IO headers
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[4:20] <Gallomimia> hm
[4:20] <Gallomimia> more io capacity? to what end?
[4:21] <Gallomimia> usb and 100baseT ?
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[4:22] * plugwash was talking about the various stuff available on the GPIO headers, things like multiple independent I2C busses
[4:23] <plugwash> and just a lot more IO pins in total which means you don't have to mess arround with IO expanders for IO heavy projects
[4:23] <plugwash> Also the ethernet on the beaglebone black is NOT USB based which is a big plus IMO
[4:23] <plugwash> And the CPU core is better
[4:24] <Gallomimia> compare the video?
[4:25] <plugwash> The pi wins there. It can drive higher resoloutions, doesn't have any conflict between the GPIO header and video output and supposedly has a better GPU (though I have no way of verifying that)
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[4:28] <Gallomimia> hm k. think i'll buy one of the other. i have an old pi. just about to fire it up actually
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[4:49] <histo> Gallomimia: what are you going to be using the device you are buying for?
[4:49] <Gallomimia> i want to use it for voice chat and mouse/keyboard entry
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[4:50] <Gallomimia> the quarter gig of ram my current model has is not enough thats for sure
[4:50] <Gallomimia> or... did it come with half
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[4:51] <histo> Gallomimia: the rev 2 B has 512mb of ram which is plenty for that stuff
[4:51] <histo> Gallomimia: I could even do that with the lower models.
[4:52] <Gallomimia> whats your favorite os?
[4:54] <histo> Gallomimia: Don't really have a "favorite" I use different os's for different tasks.
[4:54] <histo> Gallomimia: If you don't have much linux experience I recommend sticking with raspbian
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[5:04] <a5m0> so you can get 2.5A on the USB ports if you bridge the polyfuse on rev2 r-pi, what can you get pre-bridge?
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[5:05] <jgalt> just downloaded the noobs v1.1 software and unzipped the files to the card as instructed onto the card. all I get is no signal on the hdmi as if the card isn't there. ideas? things to check?
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[5:06] <shiftplusone> jgalt, did you format the card and copy the files on there?
[5:06] <shiftplusone> (format as far32)
[5:06] <shiftplusone> *fat32
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[5:12] <jgalt> shiftplusone: yes I coppied all the files over after formatting the card as instructed with the sd card forum software
[5:13] <shiftplusone> and just the red LED lights up?
[5:13] <shiftplusone> (the green doesn't flash at all?)
[5:13] <jgalt> followed exactly the getting started guide. though I have not tried it, I suspect that one of the dd images ought boot just fine
[5:14] <jgalt> yes just the red led
[5:14] <shiftplusone> unlikely
[5:14] <steve_rox> bet he shoved img in root ;-)
[5:14] <shiftplusone> NOOBS isnt distributed as an image to prevent people from doing that
[5:15] <shiftplusone> sounds like an incompatable sd card to me. I'd try an img like the raspbian one just to check.
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[5:15] <shiftplusone> Also, check the power to make sure you're getting 5v, just in case.
[5:15] <ShorTie> or try bootberry
[5:15] <shiftplusone> *berryboot
[5:16] <jgalt> I unzipped the files and coppied the files to the cards root directory
[5:16] <shiftplusone> unless there's something else called bootberry D=
[5:16] <ShorTie> thankz
[5:16] <jgalt> is that not where those files should go?
[5:16] <shiftplusone> jgalt, it is, it sounds like you did everything right.
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[5:18] <steve_rox> too sleepy to help , passing out
[5:19] <rigid> jgalt: the card works when you dd some raspberry OS image to it?
[5:19] <jgalt> shiftplusone, how does the RPi go about finding the files it needs to boot? is there not a boos sector on the card that needs to be specially written or some such?
[5:20] <shiftplusone> jgalt, nope, there's a little loader that lives in the BCM chip which looks for the fat32 partition and fires up the firmware from there
[5:20] <shiftplusone> if it doesn't find it, that happens.
[5:20] <jgalt> rigid, havn't been able to try that yet on this RPi but I believe it worked on another RPi
[5:22] <jgalt> ...then I started over with the noobs download because I liked having the choice of os it aparently has.
[5:23] <shiftplusone> jgalt, you can download any of the images NOOBS provides.
[5:23] <shiftplusone> You're not limited in any way by not using NOOBS.
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[5:25] <jgalt> I'm a bit confused... isn't noobs supposed to be one card that allows booting into any of a number of available os?
[5:26] <shiftplusone> Nope, last time I checked it only wrote one OS to the card from the list
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[5:26] <shiftplusone> sounds like you want berryboot
[5:26] <jgalt> berryboot?
[5:26] <shiftplusone> berryboot
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[5:27] <jgalt> ?
[5:27] <shiftplusone> !
[5:27] <ShorTie> &
[5:27] <shiftplusone> (google it, I don't remember the link)
[5:27] <jgalt> k
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[5:29] <jgalt> ...just be nice to have both raspbian and xbmc available at boot time. sure debian has packages available but xbmc is just nice as it is not being an add on
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[5:32] <jgalt> thanks for the tip on berryboot, have to look at it further.
[5:33] <shiftplusone> good luck
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[5:40] <yggdrasil> good evening gentlemen
[5:40] <jgalt> how long shouls it take for noobs to boot the first time?
[5:41] <yggdrasil> like 1.5 minutes
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[5:42] <jgalt> ....and how long to see something on the display the first time?
[5:42] <yggdrasil> .5 seconds
[5:42] <jgalt> ....ok, something's wrong then!
[5:42] <yggdrasil> yea
[5:42] <yggdrasil> you should see it booting
[5:42] <yggdrasil> is the activity light blinking ?
[5:43] <yggdrasil> aka the ok light
[5:43] <jgalt> nope, no activity light. just the red pwr led
[5:43] <yggdrasil> did you use some software to write the im
[5:43] <yggdrasil> g
[5:43] <yggdrasil> img.
[5:44] <yggdrasil> you cant just copy it over..
[5:44] <shiftplusone> yggdrasil, you can
[5:44] <jgalt> nope, at this point just coppied the noobs files over
[5:44] <shiftplusone> yggdrasil, noobs isn't distributed as an image.
[5:44] <jgalt> ...to a blank card
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[5:45] <jgalt> ....freshly formatted...
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[5:47] <yggdrasil> ok when you sstick it in your reader it should have two partitions
[5:47] <yggdrasil> one boot
[5:47] <yggdrasil> and one .. user
[5:47] <yggdrasil> good luck
[5:48] <shiftplusone> all lies >_<
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[5:51] <jgalt> depends. the img files are structured that way but the noobs installs are aparently one partition.
[5:51] <shiftplusone> exactly
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[5:57] <AlkazaR> general question - with Berryboot, you could have a large linux install? i.e. one that uses more disk space than your SD car allows - spreading OS files across the SD card + external USB storage?
[5:58] <shiftplusone> I have never used berryboot, but I doubt it.
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[6:04] <jgalt> writing 2013-02-09 raspbian img to same card. let's see what happens?
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[6:07] <shiftplusone> jgalt, why such an old image?
[6:08] <jgalt> shiftplusone, it's what I had.... the current one no one seems to be seeding at the moment.
[6:09] <shiftplusone> there's always the direct download, but nvrm, I guess it doesn't matter too much.
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[6:13] <jgalt> interesting.... I think maybe I found the problem. it will boot just fine with no ethernet plugged in
[6:13] <shiftplusone> sounds like a power issue then.
[6:13] <shiftplusone> have you checked the voltage as I suggested?
[6:15] <jgalt> er, well it seems that there are way to many errors of files not found and failed to execute..... actually it's NOT booting just fine!
[6:16] <jgalt> I can check the voltage, but this looks like much bigger problems. just hoping I didn't gat a second bad raspberry pi
[6:17] <jgalt> seems it's going arounfd in a loop with something about not finding the ethernet interface.
[6:18] <shiftplusone> doesn't make any difference until you know you're getting 5v
[6:18] <jgalt> sec
[6:18] <jvboy> a dumb question... if I turn on a service on my rasp-pi over the internet, and someone DDoS attack it, can my rasp-pi be damaged by the attack?
[6:18] <jvboy> i remember it happens with routers/modems
[6:18] <jgalt> happen to remember which pins on the header ought have 5v?
[6:18] <shiftplusone> jgalt, use the pads marked TP1 and TP2
[6:19] <jgalt> ...dvm in hand, 20v range
[6:20] <shiftplusone> check with ethernet plugged in and without
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[6:26] <jgalt> voltage is about 4.8v.... that does seem a bit low. ok seems the adapter is crap! drawing power from the laptop it works fine!
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[6:26] <shiftplusone> 4.8 is actually ok, but it could be that it drops even more when there is a higher load (like when ethernet is plugged in)
[6:27] <jgalt> it was even lower than that at some points
[6:27] <shiftplusone> yeah, that would make sense.
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[6:34] <AlkazaR> jgalt: also important, what mA current was it drawing/was being output by the adapter? specs are between 700 to 1.2 mA, so if that was falling below 700 mA it could also explain instability.
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[6:38] <Xark> jvboy: Permanent physical damage is highly unlikely unless it overheated or something.
[6:39] <Xark> jvboy: Also, your RPi is probably not "directly" on the internet (but typically behind a router/NAT) so that makes it hard to DoS directly (vs your router that would take the brunt).
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[6:46] <jgalt> looking to add a ds1374c rtc to the RPi. any pointers on setting it up?
[6:47] <jgalt> (presently restoring the noobs img I blew away to verify boot)
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[6:59] <ItsMeLenny> is there one of those pin header printouts somewhere which printout to the size of the pins and can just be popped onto it
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[8:09] <ItsMeLenny> is it possible to get RGB outputs from the gpio pins?
[8:11] <rigid> ItsMeLenny: yes, in theory. but they are too slow afaik.
[8:12] <ItsMeLenny> ah
[8:12] <ItsMeLenny> even at low resolutions?
[8:13] <ItsMeLenny> its a shame that that composite output isn't at least svideo
[8:15] <ItsMeLenny> rigid, do you know where the documentation is for the screen and camera port header thingies, or at least their proper names so i can google :P
[8:16] <rigid> sorry, no idea
[8:17] <ItsMeLenny> no probs, thanks anyway
[8:18] <ItsMeLenny> rigid, for the record, just found, its a DSI and the camera one is a CSI
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[8:44] <ItsMeLenny> can the composite output any resolution?
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[9:17] <managenot> g'morning
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[10:32] <Kaboon> Question for people running Pidora; is it correct that there haven't been any system updates since it has been released?
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[10:37] <Kaboon> meh, nevermind, something with the yum cache probably
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[11:45] <rasu> hello i have installed openvpn on my raspberry pi. i have a script that runs to auth the user. But i have problem to read files from this bash script. How can i see what user openvpn is using o i can give permission to the file for that user
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[11:48] <gordonDrogon> from memory, openvpn isn't 'user' based, but 'pc' based...
[11:48] <gordonDrogon> so you edit the configs as root.
[11:49] <rasu> hmm thanks
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[11:53] <Encrypt> Tip of the day: For those of you who added a Hard Drive to the Pi to sync / save data, just run "hdparm -S" ;)
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[12:02] <LordThumper> Hi :-)
[12:02] <histo> Encrypt: why do you want the drive to idle?
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[12:03] <Encrypt> Because mine is only used to sync files between the computers ;)
[12:03] <LordThumper> Is it possible for a Pi to access the TV's video stream for PVR?
[12:03] <nid0> fwiw, hdparm -S on its own will do nothing but throw up an error
[12:03] <Encrypt> So, it idles most of the time... That's why I make it spindown after 15 minutes ;)
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[12:03] <Encrypt> nid0, You're right, I had forgotten that "detail" :p
[12:04] <LordThumper> The TV is a Samsung running Arch Linux, can the CAM decoded stream be accessed on the TV's /media/vid0 for example?
[12:04] <Encrypt> I have "hdparm -S 180 /dev/sda" ;)
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[12:05] <linuxstb> LordThumper: I don't think this channel is the best place to ask for help with your Samsung TV…
[12:07] <LordThumper> Indeed, thanks anyways
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[12:07] <linuxstb> LordThumper: But I guess you would need to run a server application on the TV to stream the channels over the network for the Pi to be able to view them.
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[12:10] <LordThumper> linuxstb: That was my thought, however I cannot find any instructions online.
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[12:11] <linuxstb> LordThumper: So /media/vid0 is a device giving you the video data being displayed by the TV?
[12:12] <LordThumper> . /media/vid0 does not exist
[12:12] <LordThumper> I am not even sure if I can access the video stream on my TV
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[12:13] <LordThumper> If it exists I can install tvheadend or the sort on my TV
[12:14] <LordThumper> Sorry if I'm not clear, but I am trying to bind the TV's output to a device SUCH AS /media/vid0
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[12:16] <LordThumper> Is this your work? https://github.com/linuxstb/pidvbip
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[12:19] <linuxstb> LordThumper: Yes.
[12:20] <LordThumper> It would be useful if I manage to set up tvheadend on the TV
[12:23] <LordThumper> If I connect the antenna signal -> usb tuner -> raspberry pi, the channels are all scrambled
[12:23] <LordThumper> The only way to get the decoded signal is through the TV's CAM
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[12:28] <histo> LordThumper: samsung is using arch linux?
[12:29] <histo> LordThumper: the tv's device should already have a /dev/xxxx
[12:30] <LordThumper> histo: That should be the decoded stream right?
[12:30] <LordThumper> The stream being displayed on the LCD ?
[12:32] <histo> LordThumper: One would hope there is a decoded stream somewhere. But I don't even understand how you have access to the software your TV is running in the first place.
[12:32] <LordThumper> Through SSH
[12:32] <LordThumper> The TV has a SSHd running by default
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[12:33] <histo> LordThumper: and you received login how?
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[12:34] <histo> LordThumper: also why do you think it's running Arch?
[12:34] <LordThumper> credentials are generic
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[12:34] <LordThumper> It might not be Arch, that is what I remember though
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[12:35] <histo> LordThumper: What do you mean generic... I'm really intrigued by this that a TV manufacturer would leave ssh open and you brute forced it
[12:35] <LordThumper> Brute forced?
[12:35] <LordThumper> No, the credentials are the same for everyone
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[12:36] <ShorTie> if you can ssh in does dmesg work ??
[12:36] <histo> LordThumper: I don't see any information online about that. I just see people using telnet to connect but no ssh
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[12:37] <LordThumper> It might have been telnet, and I enabled SSH though that
[12:37] <LordThumper> I don't have access to the TV atm, and am quoting from memory
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[12:38] <LordThumper> I think it's possible to forward the device (if it exists) on telnet too right?
[12:38] <LordThumper> Not too familiar with the protocols
[12:38] <histo> LordThumper: there is custom firmware out there etc... I'd assume you'd have to check with those people and see if you have access to a decoded stream from somewhere. But I highly doubt it. There are easier ways to do it anyhoot
[12:38] <histo> LordThumper: you could use nc
[12:38] <LordThumper> histo: Yes I am browsing samygo atm.
[12:38] <LordThumper> nc?
[12:39] <histo> LordThumper: the easiest thing to do would be just get a digital tuner
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[12:39] <histo> LordThumper: Why are you trying to decode using the tv?
[12:39] <LordThumper> histo: I cannot do that :-/ The channels are scrambled
[12:39] <LordThumper> The TV is descrambling them using the provider's CAM
[12:39] <LordThumper> with a SMART card in
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[12:40] <histo> LordThumper: who is the provider?
[12:40] <LordThumper> go (Malta)
[12:40] <histo> and where does any of this have anything to do with raspberry pi?
[12:40] <LordThumper> I am trying to record the channels on my Pi
[12:41] <LordThumper> As in TV - Server, Pi - Client
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[12:41] <histo> LordThumper: depends what kind of access you have in their firmwware
[12:41] <histo> LordThumper: you'd have to poke around at different /dev/video0 ??? etc...
[12:41] <LordThumper> so, I can (potentially) query the CAM?
[12:42] <histo> No idea i'm not a tv person just know linux
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[12:42] <LordThumper> Ye, well I'll continue browsing samyGO maybe I find what I need.
[12:42] <LordThumper> Thanks anyways though
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[14:23] <FR^2> Any suggestions concerning displays for a raspi? ^^
[14:24] <Bushmills> place them such that you can see the front
[14:26] <pksato> FR^2: what kind og display? a small one connectecd to GPIO? One big on HDMI out?
[14:27] <FR^2> Bushmills: Ah! Thanks, I have been wondering for quite some time :)
[14:27] <FR^2> pksato: Well, my dreams want a display with touchscreen and full hdmi resolution, size about 4 inches and of course nearly cost-free.
[14:28] <gordonDrogon> Hehe...
[14:28] <FR^2> 4 inches, a good resolution - I'm planning to try and build a car navigation system
[14:29] <gordonDrogon> think I prefer 4:3 for navigation.
[14:29] <gordonDrogon> (rather than 16:9 typical HDMI etc.)
[14:29] <pksato> I like to connect RPi on one of these big screen used on stadiuns.
[14:29] <gordonDrogon> small display panels are somewhat expensive though.
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[14:30] <Bushmills> a cheap tablet should do.
[14:30] <FR^2> Hmm. Indeed. That's an idea.
[14:30] <Bushmills> screen + computer in a single package
[14:31] <FR^2> Though connection could be an issue
[14:31] <pksato> small display dont have a hdmi/vga interface.
[14:31] <Jck_true> FR^2: You can get one of thoose old composite reversing camera displays really really cheap in china
[14:31] <pksato> portable dvd display?
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[14:31] <gordonDrogon> they're typically analog in though (car reversing monitors)
[14:32] <pksato> DSI connected display ?
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[14:33] <Jck_true> pksato: None supported
[14:34] <gordonDrogon> not yet.
[14:35] <pksato> firmware is the big problem.
[14:35] <FR^2> http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0058S323Q/chiponline <-- look promising. analogue, but cheap
[14:36] <gordonDrogon> much cheaper if you buy direct off ebay too.
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[14:36] <gordonDrogon> but it's still analog input.
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[14:59] <FR^2> I've got that GPS module, but no way of connection. Let's hope the connector I ordered yesterday is the correct one ;)
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[15:52] <donta> what's the easiest way to get an ip off a headless pi?
[15:52] <donta> lol
[15:53] <linuxstb> I would try "host raspberrypi"
[15:53] <linuxstb> If that doesn't work, look in your router (DHCP server) logs
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[15:53] <linuxstb> If that doesn't work, use a network scanning app (I forget the name, but I'm sure someone here will know)
[15:54] <donta> I have it on it's own network :/
[15:54] <maxinux> headless... heh.. .dhcp log, or tcpdump
[15:54] <donta> (network switch at the wall, then local network, and pi)
[15:55] <malcom2073> wireshark
[15:55] <donta> the issue is that every time I connect a laptop to that network, the ip changes...
[15:55] <malcom2073> donta: You should set the pi to a static IP, or make a dhcp reservation in your router for it
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[15:55] <donta> malcom2073: it's not on my router
[15:55] <donta> it's on a switch
[15:56] <malcom2073> Oh, then it won't get an IP
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[15:56] <donta> could I do a 'get' a file from one of my servers and check the ip logs?
[15:56] <malcom2073> If you don't have a dhcp server giving out addresses, nothing on the network will have an address unless they are set to staticip
[15:56] <donta> malcom2073: my laptop got an ip...
[15:57] <malcom2073> donta: Then you likely have a router or some other PC running a dhcp server.
[15:57] <donta> but when I switch the ethernet back to the pi the ip changes
[15:57] <malcom2073> Plug your PI into the same network your laptop is plugged into
[15:57] <malcom2073> it should get an IP too
[15:57] <donta> malcom2073: right, but how would I get that ip if the pi is headless?
[15:57] <malcom2073> Look in your dhcp server's logs
[15:58] * donta doesn't want to lug in a monitor
[15:58] <malcom2073> See what it assigned the PI to, then the pi requested an ip
[15:58] <malcom2073> s/then/when
[15:58] <donta> malcom2073: it's connected to one of these before the wall: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833156250
[15:58] <donta> I'm not sure it keeps logs?
[15:58] <malcom2073> Yes, that's a switch.
[15:59] <malcom2073> That device isn't giving it the IP
[15:59] <malcom2073> Nor is it giving your laptop an IP
[15:59] <donta> what is then?
[15:59] <donta> lol
[15:59] <malcom2073> I don't know how your network is set up, so I couldn't tell you.
[15:59] <malcom2073> Ask whoever set up your network?
[15:59] <donta> I set it up...
[15:59] <malcom2073> Apparently not.
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[15:59] * donta asks donta how his network is setup
[16:00] <malcom2073> You said you plugged into the wall
[16:00] <malcom2073> What's on the other side of the wall?
[16:00] <donta> the fiber modem
[16:00] <malcom2073> Then your fiber modem is likely giving out IP addresses.
[16:00] <malcom2073> It is likely a router/modem combo if it has that capability
[16:01] <donta> okay, so it's fiber > fiber modem > network switch > fork into: rpi and router
[16:01] <malcom2073> So it should have DHCP logs somewhere, or at least a list of IP addresses that are assigned.
[16:01] <malcom2073> As an alternative, there may be pi OS images that come with a static addresss :)
[16:01] <malcom2073> Make things easier heh
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[16:03] <donta> malcom2073: since I have a keyboard, can I make it get a file?
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[16:03] <donta> and check my servers logs
[16:03] <malcom2073> On the PI? You said you didn't have a monitor
[16:03] <malcom2073> From your laptop log into your modem, and see if ti has logs somewhere
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[16:04] <donta> malcom2073: keyboard on the pi
[16:04] <donta> server is remote
[16:04] <malcom2073> Yeah that's fairly useless without a monitor.
[16:04] <malcom2073> What server?
[16:04] <malcom2073> You said you had a laptop, pi, switch, and modem
[16:04] <donta> a server I use for web hosting
[16:04] <Bushmills> often, thgere's dhclient on routers which also serves as nameserver, and associates the assigned ip address with the name the device passes to it.
[16:04] <malcom2073> That's unhelpful and out of scope of this discussion. You need to log into your modem from your laptop, and see what IP it's giving the PI
[16:04] <Bushmills> sorry. dnsmasq i mean
[16:04] <donta> basically I'm thinking, can I download a text file from the remote server onto the rpi
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[16:05] <malcom2073> Bushmills: hmm, ping pi maybe work?
[16:05] <malcom2073> donta: Possibly, get a monitor and try it :)
[16:05] <Bushmills> the name depends on OS or distribution.
[16:05] <donta> oh boy...
[16:05] <Bushmills> it's usually just hostname which is passed to dhcp server
[16:06] <Bushmills> so maybe look at /etc/hostname with sdcard mounted in a different machine
[16:06] <Bushmills> or simply run an ip scanner on your subnet
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[16:08] <malcom2073> That's probably easier
[16:08] <malcom2073> If your laptop is 192.168.1.10, scan from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.255
[16:08] <malcom2073> it's probably one of them
[16:08] <malcom2073> donta: you running windows?
[16:09] <malcom2073> I'm goign to assume yes heh, Go download this http://angryip.org/w/Download
[16:09] <malcom2073> find out your laptop's ip address (network properties shoudl tell you, or command line ipconfig /all), and scan in the range that your IP address is
[16:09] <malcom2073> With the PI and laptop both connected to your switch
[16:09] <donta> malcom2073: they have different external IPs
[16:11] <malcom2073> Very unlikely. Different internal IP's I'm sure.
[16:12] <chithead> look at your dhcp server log
[16:12] <malcom2073> chithead: I suggested that at the beginning of all this :)
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[16:13] <malcom2073> I'm about done suggesting solutions
[16:13] <chithead> or tcpdump to find the dhcpdiscover/offer/request/ack
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[16:18] <arcanescu> does wheezy have a snapshot of libsoup?
[16:18] <donta> malcom2073: when my laptop is plugged into the same ethernet cord it receives a different IP
[16:18] <donta> *external IP
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[16:19] <malcom2073> donta: Doesn't matter, any of my solutions will still work for you.
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[16:23] <malcom2073> heh
[16:23] <niddam99> donta: best idea!
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[16:23] <donta> lol
[16:24] <HonkeyGenius> i was going to suggest a monitor about 20 minutes ago but i thought you guys were having a nice chat.
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[16:24] <malcom2073> We already suggested it.
[16:24] <malcom2073> He didn't wanna do it heh
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[16:24] <malcom2073> tbh I don't blame him, checkinglogs, or pinging a range, or anything else is easier.
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[17:02] <IT_Sean> Morning
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[17:05] <steve_rox> maybe
[17:05] <IT_Sean> Maybe?
[17:05] <IT_Sean> No. It is definit
[17:05] <steve_rox> who can tell
[17:05] <IT_Sean> Definitely morning
[17:06] <IT_Sean> 10.05 am, to be specific
[17:06] <steve_rox> 4pm
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[17:07] <IT_Sean> Clearly, you are on the wrong side of the planet, steve_rox
[17:07] <steve_rox> you may be on the wrong plannet
[17:08] <IT_Sean> Well, I AM in Texas, so....
[17:08] <IT_Sean> ... Distinct possibility
[17:08] <steve_rox> :-D
[17:08] <steve_rox> my toggle switches finally arrived so i can continue the rpi project box
[17:09] <IT_Sean> Awesome
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[17:09] <IT_Sean> Are they shiny?
[17:09] <steve_rox> errrm yeah i guess hehe
[17:09] <IT_Sean> Do they light up?
[17:09] <steve_rox> i have to cut/hack some holes in the box for them which im not looking forward to
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[17:09] <steve_rox> nah they are just simple slider switches
[17:10] <IT_Sean> They should light
[17:10] <IT_Sean> Up
[17:10] <steve_rox> i want one to enable/disable the composite display
[17:10] <steve_rox> since the switch has a few pins i can allso make it cut the power to the lcd and re rout the video wire
[17:10] <steve_rox> all in theory im not sure if it will work
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[17:12] <steve_rox> switches are better quality than i expected them to be
[17:13] <IT_Sean> Err outing video without a switch designed to do so has a strong possibility of causing timing issues w/ the video signal.
[17:13] <IT_Sean> But... Good luck.
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[17:13] <steve_rox> but any risk of damage?
[17:14] <IT_Sean> My
[17:14] <IT_Sean> *nah
[17:14] <steve_rox> then things will be okays
[17:14] <IT_Sean> You are talking about composite video, right?
[17:14] <steve_rox> i dont really like superglueing switches in but i dont have tiny screws
[17:14] <steve_rox> yeah iam
[17:15] <IT_Sean> Oaky. Good.
[17:15] <steve_rox> right now i have it hard wired to a lcd
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[17:15] <steve_rox> im gonna use a switch to toggle it to a vid out jack
[17:15] <IT_Sean> Snaffing about with HDMI would cause it to very much not work at all.
[17:15] <steve_rox> the same switch kills power to lcd too
[17:16] <IT_Sean> Nice.
[17:16] <steve_rox> i dont have a hdmi lcd :-P
[17:16] <IT_Sean> Do you have a switch that turns the big red LED on the front of the case on/off?
[17:16] <steve_rox> errrm
[17:16] <steve_rox> i have no LED on it
[17:16] <steve_rox> apart from the ones on mainboard
[17:17] <IT_Sean> ..... And why not?!
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[17:17] <steve_rox> will save a bit of power if i skip the led's
[17:17] <IT_Sean> But.... But... BLINKY!
[17:17] <steve_rox> flashing LED?
[17:17] <IT_Sean> Blinkenlights few!
[17:17] <IT_Sean> *ftw
[17:18] <IT_Sean> (Dan you, autocorrect)
[17:18] <IT_Sean> *DAMN!
[17:18] <steve_rox> i dont wanna be like some xbox pad modding fool tho
[17:18] <IT_Sean> GAH!!!!!
[17:18] <IT_Sean> Well, no... But, you need at least one pointless led and a couple of flarpswitches on the case
[17:19] <steve_rox> haha
[17:19] <steve_rox> no wai :-)
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[17:19] <IT_Sean> No case is complete without a flarpswitch.
[17:19] <IT_Sean> You NEED a flarpswitch.
[17:20] <steve_rox> whys that? its not exactly a bomb
[17:20] <IT_Sean> YOU. NEED. A. FLARPSWITCH.
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[17:20] <IT_Sean> That's rule #1 of case building.
[17:20] <steve_rox> unwritten rules?
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[17:21] <steve_rox> i just found a bag of IR led
[17:21] <steve_rox> perhaps i should put them on for you ?
[17:21] <IT_Sean> Those don't count.
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[17:21] <steve_rox> do if you can see IR
[17:21] <IT_Sean> Have to be visible spectrum
[17:21] <IT_Sean> No one can see ir.
[17:22] <steve_rox> remove your ir filter in your eyes
[17:22] <IT_Sean> ...
[17:22] <steve_rox> ill get my craft knife
[17:22] <steve_rox> dont blink :-D
[17:22] <IT_Sean> No thanks.
[17:22] <steve_rox> hahaa
[17:22] * IT_Sean kills steve_rox in the face
[17:23] <steve_rox> :-P
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[17:24] <steve_rox> finding parts is hell
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[17:37] <zproc> hello i wanted to know if my usb wifi dongle support AP mode but 'iw list' only returns 'nl80211 not found.'
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[17:38] <Davespice> which dongle is it zproc?
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[17:38] <zproc> uh and i get an error with lspci
[17:40] <zproc> Davespice, tp link TL-WN725N
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[17:40] <Davespice> do you plan to try and use hostapd?
[17:41] <zproc> yes
[17:41] <Davespice> this article may help; http://sirlagz.net/2012/08/09/how-to-use-the-raspberry-pi-as-a-wireless-access-pointrouter-part-1/
[17:42] <Davespice> see the line where it says driver=nl80211
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[17:42] <Davespice> I think that just needs to be changed to specify the correct driver for your dongle, although I couldn't tell you what the name of the driver is for that particular one
[17:42] <zproc> hah, i had this page open but didn't notice that, thanks
[17:43] <Davespice> I use an edimax one and I had to recompile hostapd from source, there is also a link about doing this on that page
[17:43] <zproc> okay
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[17:50] <zproc> ha, it's a RTL8188CUS based device like mentioned on the page
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[17:50] <Davespice> right
[17:51] <Davespice> in that case you need to follow the instructions on that thread it links to
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[17:52] <Davespice> once you've recompiled it, it takes about 40 minutes, you have to copy the hostapd binary into /user/local/bin and I think /user/local/sbin (I think)
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[17:52] <Davespice> because you need to overwrite the default one with the one you just recompiled, that was the new version gets started by Linux during the bootup
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[17:53] <Davespice> that way*
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[17:57] <zproc> Davespice, i was reading the thread, so ok, thank you :)
[17:57] <Davespice> good luck with it, the rantings and ravings site has good instructions on how to get up dhcp etc too
[17:57] <Davespice> set*
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[18:12] <FR^2> What's that "visual" programming language called again?
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[18:12] <Kane> poy all o/
[18:14] <steve_rox> syntax error
[18:15] <zproc> FR^2, scratch?
[18:15] <FR^2> zproc: Ah, indeed, thanks!
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[18:27] <Davespice> FR^2: I was going to say logo but hey <shrug> :)
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[18:28] <FR^2> Davespice: Oh, that was some time ago. Are there still logo interpreters these days? ^^
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[18:28] <Davespice> yeah, there are a few still
[18:28] <FR^2> pu, fw 500, pd, fw 100, rt 90, fw 100, rt 90, fw 100, rt 90, fr 100 ;)
[18:29] <Davespice> yep :)
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[18:30] <jbaanus> I just followed this guide http://lifehacker.com/5978594/turn-a-raspberry-pi-into-an-airplay-receiver-for-streaming-music-in-your-living-room and it is just awesome!
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[18:30] <jbaanus> I was even impressed with sound quality, it's not that bad
[18:31] <FR^2> Hehe, the usb sound adapter is being delivered right now. I hope it's compatible
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[18:34] <FR^2> Davespice: More interesting: control the wheels and pen of a bot :)
[18:34] <Davespice> yeah you could totally do that
[18:34] <Davespice> a modified bigtrak maybe?
[18:35] <FR^2> Not sure. I've got too many other projects in progress ;)
[18:35] <Davespice> and then a huge load of paper :)
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[18:36] <Davespice> oh okay, I thought you were sort of looking for something to use to teach newbies programming
[18:36] <Davespice> turtle is what I first used back in about 1990 on an RM Nimbus 186 =)
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[18:39] <ripplebit> guys i followed the quickstart guide at raspberrypi.org, but when i plug in my pi to a monitor and plug in the power supply, nothing happens.
[18:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hi. It seems like http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads fails to load... *https*, mind.
[18:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> Err.
[18:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> https://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
[18:40] <Eduard_Munteanu> Any chance there's a quick fix for that?
[18:40] <ripplebit> http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads
[18:40] <ripplebit> it works
[18:40] <steve_rox> no led light up?
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[18:41] <Eduard_Munteanu> ripplebit: I mean the https variant specifically
[18:41] <ripplebit> oh right
[18:41] <ripplebit> steve_rox: yeah it turns on
[18:41] <ripplebit> but it doesn't interface with the monitor
[18:41] <Eduard_Munteanu> As to why, it's pretty obvious those checksums should be authentic.
[18:41] <mgottschlag> ripplebit: you might want to play with monitor settings in config.txt on the fat32 partition
[18:42] <mgottschlag> e.g. increase hdmi drive strength, enable a monitor safemode, etc
[18:42] <ripplebit> i dont have an sd card to usb port
[18:42] <ripplebit> can i still do it?
[18:42] <Eduard_Munteanu> Or perhaps there's a mirror which provides https access or some other way to confirm those checksums?
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[18:42] <mgottschlag> huh, how did you get the operating system onto the sd card in the first place then?
[18:43] <ripplebit> at work
[18:43] <mgottschlag> then you might want to try logging into it via SSH
[18:43] <mgottschlag> then you can change the settings there
[18:43] <ripplebit> brilliant, how can i do that?
[18:44] <mgottschlag> 1. find out the IP of the pi, 2. start an SSH program, 3. use it to login into the address using the user "pi"
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[18:44] <mgottschlag> usually 1. is the most difficult step if you are not used to networking (e.g., wireshark can help you)
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[18:45] <ripplebit> ok, thanks schlag
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[18:45] <Squarepy> also looking on your router can help, dhcp table
[18:46] <donta> malcom2073: I got it!!!
[18:46] <ripplebit> do i need to connect to my laptop or router through lan?
[18:46] <malcom2073> Cool!
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[18:47] <TheDracle> Has anyone here successfully recorded audio using pulseaudio?
[18:47] <mgottschlag> ripplebit: the pi? well, networking without a network connection is somewhat inconvenient, but it doesn't matter where you plug it in as long as there is a connection
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[18:47] <TheDracle> I am able to record via ALSA, but when I install pulse, it detects my USB microphone, and lists the devices, but they don't record anything.
[18:48] <ripplebit> mgottschlag: ok
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[18:49] <Eduard_Munteanu> Hm, at least this works: https://archive.raspbian.org/
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[18:50] <donta> the IP kept changing because I'd have to unplug it to plug in the monitor, but I ended up doing an IP scan on the range
[18:50] <donta> haha
[18:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> Who's maintaining raspbian.org? I think http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianRepository should be fixed to use https.
[18:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> wget http://archive.raspbian.org/raspbian.public.key -O - | sudo apt-key add -
[18:50] <Eduard_Munteanu> That seems rather unsafe.
[18:51] <ripplebit> mgottschlag: by the way, what i did was unzip the NOOB_v1 onto the SD card. Was that correct?
[18:51] <mgottschlag> no idea, I never have heard of NOOB_v1
[18:51] <donta> does fail2ban work well if I have no firewall?
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[18:53] <Bushmills> depends what you call "firewall" resp "no firewall"
[18:53] <Bushmills> you could say, when fail2ban activates, you have some sort of a firewall
[18:53] <Eduard_Munteanu> If your firewall precludes fail from ever happening... no dice :)
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[18:54] <Squarepy> ripplebit, yes unzip and drop it on a formatted sd card
[18:54] <donta> so fail2ban works best if I only have port 22 open?
[18:54] <donta> with a seperate firewall
[18:55] <Bushmills> no, not really "best only in that specific condition"
[18:55] <donta> kk
[18:56] <donta> is this a good tut for getting it setup? http://terraltech.com/secure-your-server-using-fail2ban/
[18:56] <Bushmills> sshguard is an interesting alternative to fail2ban for ssh
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[18:56] <donta> interesting or better?
[18:56] <Bushmills> i like its progressive reject times
[18:57] <donta> I guess I'll try following that tutorial
[18:57] <ripplebit> Squarey: ok, i did that earlier today, but now when I plug in the monitor, nothing happens
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[18:58] <Bushmills> an fail2ban had some security issue just recently. can't give detail, as i only glimpsed at the email, because it didn't concern me.
[18:58] <donta> Hmm... okay
[18:59] <donta> Looks like there's new OS updates today?
[18:59] * donta updates
[18:59] <donta> for raspbian
[18:59] <ripplebit> Squarepy: ok, i did that earlier today, but now when I plug in the monitor, nothing happens
[19:00] <Squarepy> first plug in then boot up, ripplebit ?
[19:00] <ripplebit> i plug in the monitor, then power, but the monitor doesn't respond
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[19:02] <Bushmills> i'd conclude "something doesn't work right"
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[19:07] <donta> looks like I need vim first...
[19:07] <ripplebit> guys my pi isn't interfacing with my monitor
[19:08] <mgottschlag> ripplebit: how far did you get with ssh?
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[19:08] <ripplebit> mgottschalg: having trouble finding the ip of my pi
[19:08] <mgottschlag> doesn't your router tell you somewhere in the DHCP settings?
[19:10] <ripplebit> i'll check, haven't yet used the router settings
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[19:11] <Bushmills> ripplebit: nmap is an alternative, maybe easier to use for scanning your network, than the wireshark which was suggested to you earlier
[19:12] <ripplebit> Bushmills: thanks, ill check it out
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[19:12] <Bushmills> but i don't know of many, if any, home router which doesn't show the connected local hosts
[19:12] <derjanni> Hello everybody! I installed a -dev package, but dont have a /src directory - where are the sources?
[19:12] <mgottschlag> /usr/include
[19:12] <mgottschlag> -dev is only headers, not complete sources
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[19:13] <derjanni> but where are the header files then?
[19:13] <mgottschlag> /usr/include ^^
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[19:13] <derjanni> oh great, thanks
[19:13] <mgottschlag> (of course the complete sources would be in /src)
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[19:14] <derjanni> I have an application that I want to compile that uses libpopt, but I complains "undefined reference to `poptGetContext"
[19:14] <derjanni> which means it couldn locate the header
[19:15] <derjanni> and the header is not there - although I installed libpopt-dev
[19:16] <derjanni> oh it is there, sry
[19:16] <ripplebit> Bushmills: i get "1 IP address"
[19:16] <derjanni> hm, still wondering why I get "undefined reference"
[19:16] <ripplebit> with command: nmap -v -A
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[19:17] <ripplebit> on localhost
[19:18] <jgalt> how do I rerun the raspbian setup program.... the one that runs on 1st boot?
[19:18] <Bushmills> ripplebit: you should want to tell nmap to scan your network
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[19:18] <Bushmills> preferable doing just ping probes
[19:19] <ripplebit> Bushmills: i did this command also: nmap -T5 -n -p 22 --open --min-parallelism 200 192.168.1.0/24
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[19:19] <ripplebit> and got back 2 ip addresses
[19:19] <Bushmills> that's better
[19:20] <ripplebit> also arp -a
[19:20] <ripplebit> the two ips: 192.168.1.1, 192.168.1.3
[19:20] <ripplebit> but i have no idea what to do with them
[19:21] <Bushmills> arp -a won't do much good from a machine connected through a switch to the LAN
[19:21] <ripplebit> my comp is wireless, pi lan to comp (just in case i didn't mention)
[19:21] <Bushmills> those two ip addresses are what you'd want to explore
[19:21] <ripplebit> pi cat5
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[19:25] <ripplebit> Bushmills: i ping -b both, and then pulled out the cat5 during each ping, but none of them stopped
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[19:25] <Bushmills> conclusion?
[19:25] <ripplebit> Bushmills: something isn't working
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[19:26] <mgottschlag> 192.168.1.1 is your router
[19:27] <mgottschlag> 192.168.1.3 is probably the laptop then
[19:27] <mgottschlag> so make sure that the pi actually has network
[19:27] <Bushmills> your router bridges wlan and ethernet, so they are in the same subnet?
[19:27] <mgottschlag> are the network LEDs lit?
[19:27] <mgottschlag> maybe try rebooting the pi with the network cable attached
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[19:28] <ripplebit> router/modem has no ethernet cable
[19:28] <ripplebit> just wireless
[19:28] <ripplebit> so same subnet i guess
[19:28] <mgottschlag> but the pi has one, right?
[19:28] <mgottschlag> to what is that connected?
[19:28] <Bushmills> so where does raspberry ethernet cable go to?
[19:28] <ripplebit> yeah, to the laptop
[19:28] <ripplebit> ill try connecting to the router
[19:28] * Bushmills facepalms
[19:28] <mgottschlag> +1
[19:29] <mgottschlag> your laptop doesn't hand out IPs unless you explicitely tell it so
[19:29] <ripplebit> haha was that wrong?
[19:29] <mgottschlag> (like, "shared internet connection" or "network bridge"
[19:29] <Bushmills> and you'd probably need a crossover cable to connect raspberry and laptop
[19:29] <ripplebit> sorry for the flagrant display of ignorance, im new to networking
[19:30] <mgottschlag> "handing out IP addresses" = DHCP, and your router has DHCP by default, so the pi has to connect to the router somehow, or its requests don't reach any DHCP server
[19:31] <ripplebit> got it
[19:31] <ripplebit> so when i ping -b, do i used 192.168.0.255 , the laptop address of the router ip?
[19:31] <Bushmills> that makes sense, because otherwise all of internet could ask your poor router for an ip address :)
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[19:32] <mgottschlag> 192.168.0.255 is not an ip address, it is a mask containing all addresses of the network
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[19:32] <mgottschlag> "subnet mask"
[19:32] <ripplebit> ah ok
[19:32] <Bushmills> for a /24 (subnet mask), it'd be a *broadcast address*
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[19:33] <Bushmills> almost. for a /24 cidr subnet specification, which corresponds to a 255.255.255.0 subnet mask ....
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[19:34] <ripplebit> ok you guys lost me lol. i need to study this stuff
[19:34] <ripplebit> how can i search the router for the pi ip then?
[19:35] <Bushmills> i just meant to say, 192.168.0.255 *is* an ip address
[19:35] <Bushmills> it is *not* a subnet mask
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[19:35] <Bushmills> you log into router (it has ssh) and run arp. or arp -a there
[19:36] <Bushmills> or your look into dhcp leases file
[19:36] <DDave> ��
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[19:37] <ripplebit> Bushmills: how do i log in using ssh?
[19:38] <mgottschlag> ah, of course
[19:39] <Bushmills> ssh hostname. or ssh ip-address. or ssh username@hostname/ip-address
[19:39] <ripplebit> by the way, when i check the router admin page, it says only my laptop and phone are connected
[19:39] * Bushmills thinks there exists a manual page saying so as well
[19:39] <ripplebit> is it meant to ?
[19:40] <mgottschlag> "<mgottschlag> maybe try rebooting the pi with the network cable attached" - already tried?
[19:40] <Bushmills> no idea about "meant to". you should know what is meant to
[19:40] <ripplebit> tried rebooting
[19:41] <ripplebit> but it's not registering on the LAN-Side Devices page
[19:41] <ripplebit> also it says both of the two LAN ports are disconnected
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[19:44] <Bushmills> what do the LEDs on raspberry do when booting?
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[19:45] <pksato> question. NOOBs have a networking ?
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[19:46] <Bushmills> depends what you call "network"
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[19:46] <_21h_> hi all
[19:46] <Bushmills> a laptop connected to a router, is that a network?
[19:47] <_21h_> anybody know how to make internet radio by ripping anything from sound card mic and output?
[19:47] <_21h_> i want to connect rpi to my 27 mhz radiostation
[19:48] <Bushmills> you probably want a uploader to a server, like icecast. there's icecast specific uplink clients, or non-specific to icecast ones, like mpd or even vlc
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[19:48] <_21h_> icecast uses mpeg stream, not hardware
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[19:49] <_21h_> i need to rip anything from sound card to mpeg stream before
[19:49] <Bushmills> i'm assuming a non-raspberry internet server. and raspberry being the upload client
[19:49] <pksato> if I not missed any lines, ripplebit upload NOOBs to SD card at work. I suspect that noobs dont have way to setup via network.
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[19:51] <Bushmills> i wanted to ask him how he prepared the sd card. that's what the LED question was meant fo
[19:51] <Bushmills> for
[19:51] <Bushmills> i suspect he wrote the image such that it's not bootable
[19:52] <Bushmills> maybe unpacked the file into an existing vfat partition or such
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[20:06] <ripplebit> guys having trouble getting my raspi to work
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[20:07] <Bushmills> how did you write your sd card?
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[20:12] <ripplebit> Bushmills: i formatted it with the program suggested in the quickstart guide, unziped the NOOB_v1.zip, unzipped it, moved it to SD card
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[20:13] <Bushmills> "moved" how?
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[20:14] <jgalt> having trouble with eth0 looseing it's address. any ideas?
[20:14] <lolbat> looseing?
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[20:15] <jgalt> ok, misspelled possibly but has an address one minute, gone the next....
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[20:18] <jgalt> this hardware seems to have issues, 2nd board that's given me trouble, never had an ounce of trouble with ti beagle hardware
[20:18] <ripplebit> people will a pi work with a 800mA powersupply?
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[20:19] <SpeedEvil> yes
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[20:21] <ripplebit> Bushmills: i just copied the file
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[20:25] <steve_rox> more netsplits i see
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[20:25] <Squarepy> ripplebit, what format is the sd card in?
[20:26] <ripplebit> fat i believe
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[20:26] <Squarepy> ok fat32 and the boot flag is set
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[20:27] <ripplebit> not sure what the boot flag is
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[20:29] <Squarepy> ok. well it doesn't matter on the pi I see
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[20:32] <Squarepy> have you tried berryboot ripplebit
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[20:33] <Squarepy> I have good experiences with it, it's from the same developper
[20:33] <ripplebit> no,what is it?
[20:33] <Squarepy> except the distributions are downloaded when needed
[20:33] <Squarepy> it is similar to noobs
[20:34] <ripplebit> oh right. although im not sure it's the boot loader that's the issue.
[20:35] <ripplebit> does the SD need an image to be recognized by my network?
[20:36] <Squarepy> network? the steps are afaik: format sd to fat32, copy total unzipped archive, connect everything to the raspberry, plug it in
[20:36] <Squarepy> at first boot you should be able to select a distro
[20:36] <Squarepy> on repeated boots you can select others using a key combination to access the menu
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[20:37] <Squarepy> berryboot on the other hand needs network connectivity to download, plug in the lan
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[20:38] <Squarepy> so that's the main difference, noobs (no internet needed), berryboot (downloads images over internet)
[20:41] <Squarepy> is something unclear ripplebit ?
[20:41] <ripplebit> Squarepy: but i think there might be another issue with my pi. How could i test whether or not it's working?
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[20:41] <Bushmills> i'd avoid the complication with a bootstrap loader entirely, by flashing a directly bootable image first
[20:42] <Squarepy> Bushmills, well define complicated
[20:42] <Squarepy> but sure, or a pre-flashed one
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[20:42] <Bushmills> an additional piece of software between OS and boot
[20:42] <ripplebit> Bushmills: If the image wasn't flashed correctly, will my monitor pick anything up?
[20:42] <Bushmills> that's an additional error vector
[20:44] <Bushmills> instead of bootloader and picking one or another OS, having one SD card for each, and inserting them as needed, bears less potential of complication
[20:44] <Bushmills> get image. sector-write to device. boot from it.
[20:45] <Squarepy> well ok, but IMO buying a pre-flashed one sounds like a good option here, without adding technicalities
[20:45] <ripplebit> might give that a shot then. thanks guys
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[20:45] <Bushmills> he had enough :)
[20:46] <Squarepy> :)
[20:46] <ozzzy> http://www.togastro.com/ozzzy/images/pi_setup.jpg <-- IT'S ALIVE!!!
[20:47] <Squarepy> o/
[20:47] <Bushmills> grep the insecticide. the fungizide, the weapons of mass destruction.
[20:47] <ozzzy> LOL
[20:48] <Bushmills> grab, even
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[20:50] <ozzzy> now... if I could figure out how to get my webcam driver to play nice with usbip.... life would be just pietzsche
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[20:51] <Squarepy> well isn't the pi specific camera a better option ozzzy
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[20:52] <ozzzy> sure... if I could pull the lens, fit a 1.25" nosepiece and find a driver for it that windows auto-guiding software likes
[20:53] <ozzzy> or... do the first two and get the author of lin_guider to support it
[20:53] <ozzzy> =)
[20:53] <yggdrasil> anyone here used pibang ?
[20:53] <Squarepy> 0.o
[20:53] <yggdrasil> crunchbang for pi ?
[20:54] <Squarepy> what?
[20:54] <yggdrasil> cant seem to get it to boot.
[20:55] <yggdrasil> crunchbang linux on the pi
[20:55] <yggdrasil> its called pibang
[20:55] <ozzzy> crunchbang?
[20:55] <yggdrasil> linux
[20:55] <Squarepy> k
[20:55] <yggdrasil> i guesse not.
[20:56] <Squarepy> yggdrasil, please ask questions that are more specific
[20:56] <yggdrasil> has anyone here used crunchbang linux for the raspberry pi ...?
[20:56] <ozzzy> I've never even heard of it
[20:56] <Squarepy> yggdrasil, what is your problem, etc.
[20:57] <yggdrasil> i cant get it to boot, boots a little and gets to a place where it says enter runlevel
[20:58] <ozzzy> it wants you to enter which runlevel you want?
[20:58] <yggdrasil> yea
[20:58] <Bushmills> 2 or 3 would be a common choice
[20:58] <Squarepy> :)
[20:58] <ozzzy> yep
[20:59] <megaproxy> sublime2 is so win
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[20:59] <Bushmills> but that wasn't your question. your question was "anyonew here uses it"
[21:00] <yggdrasil> yea so the n i do 2 and it just returns no processes vailible.
[21:00] <Bushmills> i don't
[21:01] <Squarepy> ^^
[21:01] * Bushmills wonders why people choose boot images which don't even seem to boot
[21:01] <ozzzy> yeah.... me too
[21:01] <yggdrasil> hold on guys.
[21:01] <yggdrasil> phone.
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[21:02] <Squarepy> yes, calling assistance
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[21:14] <yggdrasil> ok,
[21:14] <yggdrasil> gonna redownload the image and then ill rewrite it
[21:14] <yggdrasil> see if that works.
[21:15] <yggdrasil> if not , forget it.
[21:15] <yggdrasil> the raspian is just fine.
[21:16] <Bushmills> using same image will probably give you the same result
[21:16] <Bushmills> software is predictable - somewhat
[21:16] <yggdrasil> downloading it again..
[21:16] <Squarepy> stable release?
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[21:16] <yggdrasil> yea
[21:16] <chithead> you can use md5sum to check whether the image was downloaded correctly
[21:16] <yggdrasil> hmm u know maybe i didnt unmount the card prior to writing.
[21:16] <yggdrasil> let me try that.
[21:16] <Bushmills> that sounds more like it.
[21:17] <Bushmills> though dd supposedly warns, or even refuses to write, i thoght
[21:17] <yggdrasil> yea wierd it didnt ask.
[21:17] <yggdrasil> it was definelty mounted though.
[21:18] <yggdrasil> ill keep you posted.
[21:19] <yggdrasil> damit,
[21:19] <yggdrasil> just overwrote my good image !
[21:19] <yggdrasil> oh well there goes afew hours.
[21:19] <Squarepy> yggdrasil, please share all of your headaches with the community :)
[21:20] <yggdrasil> indeed.
[21:20] <yggdrasil> the case is al ittle loose too
[21:20] <Bushmills> have you ever wondered whether fiddling with computers, an occupation which requires a considerable amount of accurate working, is the right thing for you?
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[21:20] <Squarepy> ouch
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[21:22] -JonathanD- Hey Freenode, Fosscon is coming up Saturday August 10th. Fosscon has it's roots right here on freenode, and has been growing for 4 years now. Check it out over at http://fosscon.org, and check out a few of the speakers for this year at http://fosscon.org/speakers
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[21:25] <yggdrasil> uh yea i have considered it
[21:25] <yggdrasil> and yep its the right place for me.
[21:26] <Squarepy> maybe it is a coffee shortage
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[21:26] <yggdrasil> its a huge workload and a desire to play wit hthe pi at the same time.
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[21:29] <yggdrasil> ahh awesome, i didnt overwrite it.
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[21:30] <steve_rox> damn wireing this thing up is hell , wires everywhere
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[21:36] <yggdrasil> oh yea , that worked better.
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[21:36] <yggdrasil> lets see what crunchbang has to offer.
[21:40] * donta is building ZNC
[21:40] <donta> how long does it normally take on an RPi?
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[21:43] <yggdrasil> what is znc?
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[21:44] <donta> yggdrasil: IRC bouncer: http://wiki.znc.in/ZNC
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[21:44] * SpeedEvil is using quassel on his Pi.
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[21:45] <yggdrasil> donta: looks coool.
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[21:46] <SpeedEvil> quassel is a 'core' - which conects to IRC - with several different clients that you can connect to the core - and scroll up from when you were offline
[21:47] <yggdrasil> hmm ijust leave irssi logged in on my vm / shell.
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[21:57] <Otaku_> Hello
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[21:57] <Otaku_> can i get support for omxplayer on raspbian here?
[21:58] <SpeedEvil> Well, you can ask questions.
[21:58] <Otaku_> I have a .mkv file with .h264 video codec and a seperate sub stream.
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[21:58] <Otaku_> but even with --align left the subs start nearly in the middle of the screen.
[21:59] <Otaku_> and so in long lines, the last words run out of the screen
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[22:05] <Otaku_> and can you answer them? SpeedEvil
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[22:05] <SpeedEvil> No.
[22:05] <SpeedEvil> I've never used my pi to playback media.
[22:06] <SpeedEvil> However, perhaps one of the fine lurkers can answer your question when they return from climbing Everest.
[22:06] <Davespice> I presume omxplayer?
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[22:07] <pksato> sub whit long lines?
[22:08] <pksato> oh... sub is not centered.
[22:09] <Otaku_> i said omxplayer!
[22:09] <Otaku_> so should i try --align center?
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[22:09] <pksato> center is not default?
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[22:10] <pksato> or, not all video is on screen, only partial.
[22:10] <Otaku_> default is left
[22:10] <Otaku_> but it's not left, it starts at 1/3 from the left
[22:10] <pksato> main omxplayer now support external sub?
[22:11] <Otaku_> and so it runs out of the screen
[22:11] <Otaku_> i don't have external subs
[22:11] <Otaku_> it's included in the .mkv file
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[22:13] <Otaku_> thx
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[22:13] <Otaku_> with --align center i can read the full lines
[22:13] <Otaku_> but i still don't like seperate sub streams
[22:13] <Otaku_> but i don't found out where to download animes eccept bakabt.me
[22:13] <Otaku_> there's a huge difference between german and english web culture.
[22:14] <HonkeyGenius> Otaku_, curious. what do you mean?
[22:14] <SpeedEvil> Learn Japanese.
[22:14] <SpeedEvil> Problem solved.
[22:14] <Otaku_> no
[22:14] <SpeedEvil> Who said Pi wasn't educational.
[22:15] <Otaku_> In german, you find animes on the sub groups personal sites, as DDL or one click hoster.
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[22:15] <Otaku_> In english, the sub groups rerely offer them directly. there are onl�y huge portals, and only torrent.
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[22:27] <jgalt> what is the most current the raspberry pi should draw with usb kb, usb mouse, hdmi tv, & ethernet attached while using 100% cpu?
[22:28] <shiftplusone> depends on the keyboard and mouse, but theoretically, the maximum is around 750mA
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[22:44] <Ely_arp> pi solar + battery
[22:44] <Ely_arp> anyone built one
[22:44] <LordDoskias> is there any difference if i use the vcos apis on raspberry pi
[22:44] <LordDoskias> or the pthread ones?
[22:45] <pksato> Ely_arp: all day, some ask about it.
[22:45] <Ely_arp> lol ok i look in google
[22:45] <pksato> check rpi forum
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[22:46] <BillyBag2> Hi, can I mount a secong SD card connected on the SPI?
[22:47] <BillyBag2> *second
[22:47] <steve_rox> err no
[22:47] <steve_rox> not that i know of
[22:47] <BillyBag2> I saw an artical on it but I can not search for SD card as this is too common.
[22:51] <BurtyB> BillyBag2, I don't see why not but don't expect it to be anywhere near as fast as the primary one.
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[22:52] <BillyBag2> OK this might be it ... http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=44&t=8837
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[23:55] <SgrA> Just like arm_freq_min in /boot/config.txt, can I also specify core_freq_min, sdram_freq_min too?
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