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IRC Log for 2013-06-25

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[0:00] <IT_Sean> And how do you plan to do that...?
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[0:01] <beaky> can beaglebones have more than 1 usb too?
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[0:07] <gordonDrogon> ah. apparently we can see the moon tonight - one day after the supermoon, so it's quite bright.
[0:08] <ParkerR> gordonDrogon, Neat. I got some pictures last night
[0:08] <plugwash> The beaglebone black has two USB ports, one is set up for host one is set up for device
[0:09] <gordonDrogon> except it's currently behind a hill for me.
[0:09] <plugwash> I SUSPECT i'ts possible to turn the device port into a host port but I haven't investigated in detail
[0:10] <beaky> what are rasperry pis good for?
[0:10] <gordonDrogon> beaky, fun.
[0:10] <ParkerR> Everything
[0:10] <beaky> ah
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[0:11] <ParkerR> gordonDrogon, http://i.imgur.com/bXYTpf8.jpg
[0:11] <Bushmills> they're great to hot glue them against walls
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[0:13] <gordonDrogon> ParkerR, that's pretty good.
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[0:13] <gordonDrogon> ParkerR, http://unicorn.drogon.net/moon.jpg <- old old photo moon with halo
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[0:13] <ParkerR> gordonDrogon, 40x zoom on the camera. Went a bit into digital zoom
[0:13] <ParkerR> Nice
[0:13] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/moon2.jpg is the only correctly exposed image I've ever taken of the moon!
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[0:14] <ParkerR> Nice
[0:14] <beaky> can raspberry pis used the same as arduinos?
[0:14] <gordonDrogon> beaky, similar.
[0:14] <beaky> like for building coffee machines, measuring height, driving robots
[0:14] <beaky> ah
[0:14] <ParkerR> gordonDrogon, Here's another with a bit better color http://i.minus.com/id9k8zOtqtYxE.JPG
[0:14] <gordonDrogon> beaky, the main difference is that the program on the Pi, but you need something else to program the arduino.
[0:15] <beaky> ah
[0:15] <maxinux> beaky: no ADC on a raspi without adding it on... so if you need that, you might find it better to use an arduino
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[0:15] <beaky> pis still have PWM?
[0:15] <maxinux> people often use arduinos w/ the rapspi
[0:15] <gordonDrogon> ParkerR, pretty good! I have a 300mm zoom I might just stick on my camera if the moon comes over the hill..
[0:15] <beaky> so they complement each other nicely?
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[0:16] <ParkerR> gordonDrogon, The camera is a... Canon PowerShot SX100 on loan
[0:16] <gordonDrogon> beaky, Pi has one usable hardware PWM - but there aresoftware PWM libraries.
[0:16] <IT_Sean> that was odd.
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[0:16] <gordonDrogon> ParkerR, not bad.. my new one is a Pentax K-30.
[0:16] <IT_Sean> My innernet just hiccup'd
[0:16] <maxinux> beaky yes
[0:16] <beaky> ah neat
[0:16] <beaky> I love pwm
[0:16] <maxinux> gordonDrogon: lol one? thats kinda funny did not know that
[0:17] <ParkerR> gordonDrogon, Sad thing is I have a better camera but it eats batteries
[0:17] <beaky> but the pi looks a bit short on GPIO compared to the beaglebone
[0:17] <maxinux> beaglebone OS supporti s no nearly what raspi is
[0:17] <maxinux> but i love my bones
[0:17] <gordonDrogon> maxinux, lol? it has 2 but you can only get easy access to one.
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[0:17] <maxinux> gordonDrogon: some of the raspi design decisions make me laugh
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[0:17] <mcf3782> Has anyone here used this? http://www.fritz-hut.com/arduinopi-web-based-controller-for-arduino/
[0:18] <gordonDrogon> maxinux, what do you expect for �25?
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[0:18] <beaky> are people allowed to own more than one pi?
[0:18] <gordonDrogon> sure.
[0:18] <maxinux> gordonDrogon: doesnt mean i can't laugh
[0:18] <maxinux> beaky: i have a few on my desk right now.. so why not?
[0:18] <ParkerR> beaky, Why wouldnt they be allowed to?
[0:19] <beaky> I thought there was a "one per person" restriction on them
[0:19] <gordonDrogon> there was. it was lifted - over a year ago.
[0:19] <plugwash> For early batches there was supposed to be a one per person limit to spread the initial units more widely
[0:19] <gordonDrogon> do keep up.
[0:19] <ParkerR> beaky, ).o no
[0:19] <plugwash> but it was never very well enforced and it went away ages ago
[0:19] <ParkerR> *O.o
[0:20] <maxinux> it was simply due to demand exceeding supply, at the outset I had ordered one each from each supplier.. distributed them around
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[0:22] <mcf3782> I don't understand enough of the interaction/interconnection between the javascript code and the php code to debug it. I'd like to not have to use the Arduino just to run the PWM of the LEDs. I can control my RGB LED strips from my pi now, using the pi-blaster code. But I don't understand how to integrate the JS/AJAX and enough PHP/Python to glue it all together.
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[0:24] <plugwash> The design descisions on the Pi were clearly made on a basis of "reduce the cost as much as possible"
[0:24] <mcf3782> At the very least, I'd like to get somewhere close to this. http://rasathus.blogspot.com/2012/11/raphaeljs-meets-adafruit-rgb-leds.html Only I'm not using the adafruit LEDs. But the raphael.js people tell me that my attempt at using their code to do this is "inappropriate", and like "asking a person in a paint store about how to draw a computer circuit".
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[0:26] <plugwash> It's all very well saying "it would be nice if they had done x, it would only cost slightly more" but a load of items each costing "slightly more" can add up to a significant cost increas
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[0:39] <beaky> so the Raspberry pi is better than the beaglebone black for playing media?
[0:40] <beaky> I want to set mine up as a movie machine for my parents and siblings
[0:41] <Bushmills> probably #1 application for pi
[0:42] <beaky> ah
[0:42] <beaky> neat where can I read about this thing
[0:42] <Bushmills> though for that purpose one of those mk8xx sticks may be preferable
[0:43] <beaky> right
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[0:45] <Bushmills> for raspberry related info regarding home theater search for openelec
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[0:48] <beaky> what kind of covers can I fit a naked pi with?
[0:48] <beaky> should*
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[0:49] <Bushmills> how about a case?
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[0:50] <beaky> ah
[0:50] <steve_rox> theres a case you can print off from a pdf
[0:50] <steve_rox> not something id use tho
[0:51] <beaky> hah
[0:51] <beaky> I think I will mod the ESD bag it came in
[0:51] <beaky> as a case
[0:51] <beaky> or the cardboard box
[0:52] <steve_rox> well for storage i used to put it back in the anti static bag
[0:52] <steve_rox> http://www.zen74792.zen.co.uk/images/P1060356_A.jpg what i did with one my rpi
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[0:53] <steve_rox> made a case out of a project box
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[0:53] <beaky> wow nice case
[0:53] <steve_rox> thanks :-) , its my first attempt tho
[0:54] <steve_rox> pic is a bit old since that tho , its got a toggle switch on its lcd now and a extra composite out jack
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[0:55] <steve_rox> working on installing the rpi camera now but its tricky squeesing it in
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[1:53] <BigShip> hey there, just wondering if anyone is running groundcontrol on their pi?
[1:53] <ShorTie> haven't seen Magor Tom
[1:54] <ShorTie> Major*
[1:54] <ParkerR> ShorTie, Major...
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[2:29] <netman87> oh i did get some 0.0000something bitcoins
[2:29] <steve_rox> yay
[2:30] <steve_rox> over to the black market tor network?
[2:30] <steve_rox> haha
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[2:32] <netman87> 0.00005778 BTC
[2:32] <netman87> if 1 BTC = 80eur... then its big money :D
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[2:32] * IT_Sean facepalms
[2:33] <netman87> i could maybe buy ice cream if i keep doing this for year
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[2:33] <IT_Sean> 0.00005778 BTC?
[2:33] <IT_Sean> You can't even buy a beer for that!
[2:33] <netman87> in year i can
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[2:34] <netman87> time to close cpu miner and start playing
[2:35] <IT_Sean> you are going to spend more in a year in electricity than you will get back from bitcoin mining on a raspi
[2:35] <netman87> IT_Sean, thats not true
[2:35] <plugwash> <netman87> 0.00005778 BTC <netman87> if 1 BTC = 80eur... then its big money :D <-- I make it about half a eurocent
[2:35] <netman87> free electricity
[2:35] <netman87> also free computers
[2:36] <netman87> but cant say its profitable and even if it was atm its gonna not be so in future.
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[2:43] <steve_rox> your have to run it off solar cells to make if profitable ;-)
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[2:43] <steve_rox> oh and be in sunny weather
[2:44] <IT_Sean> ^ That
[2:44] <steve_rox> not good if your in the uk
[2:44] <IT_Sean> ^ That too
[2:44] <steve_rox> heh
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[2:46] <steve_rox> need to find a way to mount the rpi cam now
[2:47] * IT_Sean hands steve_rox a roll of ducttape
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[2:47] <steve_rox> nahhh
[2:47] <steve_rox> the camera is very close to gpio pins too so i have to watch they dont short on back of pcb
[2:49] <steve_rox> they say the rpi is cheap but it soon adds up :-P heh
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[2:50] * IT_Sean hands steve_rox a wad of prechewed gum
[2:50] <steve_rox> no wai :-P
[2:50] <IT_Sean> No?
[2:50] <IT_Sean> it's fresh!
[2:51] <IT_Sean> Nice n sticky!
[2:51] <steve_rox> only thing i can think of is two tubes with small ammount of hot glue eather end
[2:51] <steve_rox> needs to have some durablilty
[2:52] <steve_rox> so if it was given some vibration it dont fall apart
[2:52] <IT_Sean> what are you doing with it?
[2:53] <steve_rox> well there is no perticular purpose defined for it , its just when ya make something you dont want it to fall apart
[2:53] <IT_Sean> fair 'nuff
[2:53] <steve_rox> worse case senario it comes un mounted and shorts on something
[2:53] <IT_Sean> indeed
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[2:55] <steve_rox> i would use screws but ive got none that size or drill to make m
[2:55] <steve_rox> em
[2:56] <netman87> steve_rox, no. i have depression and i have about 1 year that my electricity if free up to about 70eur/month. i also fix computers and friends work on company taking computers in parts to get copper and gold and so on... i can have free (older) computers and
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[2:57] <steve_rox> errm i see
[2:57] <netman87> so i was just testing how much i could get from GPU :)
[2:58] <netman87> and i know it wont be enough to make it profitable
[2:58] <steve_rox> does it get real hot?
[2:58] <netman87> 68C
[2:58] <steve_rox> that without sink?
[2:58] <netman87> been there for 4-7 hours
[2:58] <steve_rox> or fan?
[2:58] <netman87> fan is running at 50% power
[2:58] <steve_rox> ah
[2:59] <steve_rox> is there a heatsink?
[2:59] <netman87> its gtx560 ti oc
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[2:59] <steve_rox> yeah im lost now ;-)
[2:59] <netman87> im not using rpi...
[2:59] <steve_rox> the rpi dont have one them
[2:59] <netman87> its 300-400eur card... or was
[3:00] <steve_rox> i have to install cam upside down lucky theres a flip cmd line option
[3:00] <netman87> this is just most active channel i have atm. so im talking here about this and that if nothing else is being spoken about :P
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[3:01] <steve_rox> ah i see :-)
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[3:01] <netman87> heh. can you take me some pictures? take one picture of candle in dark room plz
[3:02] <netman87> one without candle
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[3:02] <netman87> or are you speaking of usb cam?
[3:02] <steve_rox> rpi camera module
[3:02] <netman87> oh, then i could like to get few pictures in dark
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[3:03] <netman87> wondering about "low light" quality
[3:03] <netman87> i could use one maybe
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[3:04] <steve_rox> they do seem to have good quality
[3:05] <steve_rox> http://www.zen74792.zen.co.uk/images/P1060669_A.jpg , this is what my rpi looks like at the moment
[3:05] <steve_rox> the wireing is starting to get a bit errrm bad
[3:05] <steve_rox> but its holding
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[3:06] <pksato> astrophotography with cam module http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/4170
[3:07] <steve_rox> http://www.zen74792.zen.co.uk/images/P1060668._Ajpg.jpg , this is the other pic of it , lcd is visible
[3:07] <yggdrasil> whats up gents
[3:07] <mpmc> Sky :p
[3:08] <IT_Sean> airplanes.
[3:08] <IT_Sean> clouds
[3:08] <IT_Sean> and occasionally birds.
[3:08] <steve_rox> wish i had some heat shrink or i could of made it much neater
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[3:12] <pksato> problem to mount you cam. mod? not more. :) http://www.recantha.co.uk/blog/?p=4087
[3:12] <mpmc> steve_rox: What you going to use that pi in a box for? :p
[3:13] <steve_rox> theres no pre defined purpose for it at the moment
[3:13] <steve_rox> just makeing it up as i go along or something
[3:14] <mpmc> :)
[3:14] <steve_rox> maybe as i learn more about linux/scripting/etc ill be able to give it more purpose
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[3:24] <steve_rox> any other interesting rpi projects going on?
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[3:25] <Tachyon`> there's a great many interesting rpi projects going on I'd imagine
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[3:26] <Tachyon`> have you seen teh humanoid robot on kickstarter?
[3:26] <steve_rox> yeah i saw that
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[3:27] <SpeedEvil> Upgrade a realdoll
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[3:27] <SpeedEvil> Err - I mean upgrade a manikin.
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[3:27] <steve_rox> make a terminator?
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[3:30] <yggdrasil> mp3blaster is the best cli mp3 player.
[3:30] <yggdrasil> but it sems to have an issue with alsa
[3:31] <yggdrasil> it want oss
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[3:31] <pksato> use some *bsd for good oss drivers.
[3:31] <steve_rox> ill resist the urge to add sissy LED on this thing
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[3:32] <ParkerR> yggdrasil, mplayer, mpg123, heck even omxplayer
[3:33] <yggdrasil> have you seen the interface on mp3blaster ?
[3:33] <yggdrasil> its awesome
[3:33] <steve_rox> i have not
[3:33] <ParkerR> yggdrasil, I have not but
[3:33] <ParkerR> oss is old
[3:33] <yggdrasil> you can run it by using aoss mp3blaster
[3:33] <ParkerR> And very uneeded
[3:33] <yggdrasil> well the config allegedly allows alsa
[3:33] <steve_rox> what is it ? some linux mp3 player in X or something?
[3:33] <yggdrasil> but it didnt seem to work.
[3:33] <ParkerR> Or even mpd
[3:33] <yggdrasil> no its ncurses
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[3:34] <ParkerR> cmus is another good ncurses one
[3:34] <yggdrasil> oh yea
[3:34] <yggdrasil> im checking out somethign called amp
[3:34] <yggdrasil> right now
[3:34] <yggdrasil> i mean moc
[3:35] <Tachyon`> oh nice, an ncurses based player
[3:35] <steve_rox> hmm
[3:35] <yggdrasil> let me know if you guys can figure out how to switch it to alsa mode
[3:35] <yggdrasil> its allegedly just a switch in the conf
[3:35] <ParkerR> Even vlc has an ncurses mode: vlc-nox -I ncurses
[3:36] <yggdrasil> oh yea ?
[3:36] <yggdrasil> hmm.
[3:36] <Tachyon`> oh nice, mp3blaster does sid too
[3:36] <yggdrasil> yea its nice
[3:36] <yggdrasil> whatever sid is.
[3:37] <yggdrasil> cant even figure out how to use moc
[3:37] <yggdrasil> launch it
[3:38] <ParkerR> mocp
[3:38] <yggdrasil> ahh thanks
[3:38] <yggdrasil> oh yea this is nice
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[3:38] <ParkerR> man moc
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[3:38] <ParkerR> Tells you to use mocp :P
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[3:39] <yggdrasil> cool.
[3:39] <yggdrasil> strange though
[3:42] <yggdrasil> hmmm not bad
[3:42] <yggdrasil> simple
[3:43] <Tachyon`> hrm, mp3blaster isn't wanting to blast
[3:44] <Tachyon`> no oss, although I'd have expected sdl to work?
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[3:46] <yggdrasil> you can run it by using aoss mp3blaster
[3:46] <Tachyon`> I don't seem to have an aoss
[3:46] <Tachyon`> although I'm doing an update now
[3:46] <yggdrasil> install it
[3:46] <Tachyon`> so we'll see if one appears
[3:46] <Tachyon`> there's no package called aoss
[3:46] <yggdrasil> ahhh raspian?
[3:46] <Tachyon`> yup
[3:47] <yggdrasil> its there
[3:47] <Tachyon`> apt disagrees, but I'll try again, lol
[3:47] <Tachyon`> well, once this time consuming upgrade is done
[3:47] <Tachyon`> I really should do that more often
[3:48] <Tachyon`> oh god, it's doing somethign to the bootloader
[3:48] <Tachyon`> hope it still boots afterwards
[3:48] <yggdrasil> hehe
[3:48] <yggdrasil> hmm
[3:49] <Tachyon`> ahh, alsa-oss
[3:49] <yggdrasil> ahh yea
[3:49] <yggdrasil> thats what i meant
[3:49] <yggdrasil> but theres allegedly a way to make it work without it
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[3:54] <Tachyon`> aye, I'd think sdl audio would work bu it doesn't
[3:54] <Tachyon`> which is odd as it works in everything else
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[3:54] <yggdrasil> i coudlnt make it work either
[3:54] <yggdrasil> was bummed
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[3:54] <yggdrasil> the mixer in moc doesnt seem to work.
[3:55] <Tachyon`> I wonder if rebuilding from source might be the answer
[3:55] <yggdrasil> hmm
[3:55] <Tachyon`> with the appropriate sdl dev packages installewd
[3:55] <yggdrasil> tht may be it
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[3:55] <Tachyon`> I'll give that a try
[3:55] <yggdrasil> bbl dinnre
[3:58] <Tachyon`> christ debian, ask for like 10 packages, get 116
[3:58] <ozzzy> same everywhere.... deps
[3:58] <Tachyon`> aye, I know, just the scale of this one shocked me
[3:59] <Tachyon`> lucky I got a 16GB card
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[4:01] <Tickle> Anyone ever do anything with a raspberry pi and a bike
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[4:03] <steve_rox> no idea
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[4:07] <IanCormac> Does anyone know how to reset the language for raspbmc? It kept freaking out and opening up a change language dialogue, and english wasn't an option. I accidentally clicked turkish and now I can't find the language menu to fix it
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[4:13] <Tachyon`> ah, that did work
[4:13] <Tachyon`> after a rebuild with the appropriate dev packages
[4:13] <Tachyon`> I have sdl audio
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[4:17] <yggdrasil> nice
[4:17] <yggdrasil> audio control too?
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[4:17] <IanCormac> Jesus christ raspbmc blows
[4:18] <ricksl> I don't think its fair to blame it for you setting its language to turkish
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[4:19] <IanCormac> It blows for a lot more reasons than that
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[4:19] <IanCormac> first off, it opened a language dialogue with no prompting from me
[4:19] <IanCormac> second, english was not an option
[4:19] <IanCormac> Third, every time I closed the dialogue it came back immediately
[4:19] <IanCormac> Fourth, the stability is *terrible*
[4:19] <IanCormac> I don't even know how it can be this unstable
[4:19] <ricksl> then stop being lazy and setup openelec
[4:20] <yggdrasil> hahah
[4:20] <IanCormac> That might be a good idea
[4:21] <ricksl> It takes longer but it runs better
[4:21] <technomancy> does switching raspbian over to upstart improve boot time noticeably?
[4:22] <yggdrasil> Tachyon`: so you just built it from src ?
[4:22] <Tachyon`> after installing the appropriate dev libs, yes
[4:22] <yggdrasil> i see
[4:22] <yggdrasil> how do you like the interface ?
[4:23] <Tachyon`> very ncursesy
[4:23] <yggdrasil> haha
[4:23] <yggdrasil> its good though right ?
[4:23] <Tachyon`> oh yes, works nicely
[4:23] <yggdrasil> its the best cli mp3 player
[4:23] <yggdrasil> i think
[4:23] <yggdrasil> ive been looking for something better.
[4:23] <yggdrasil> moc isnt bad.
[4:23] <Tachyon`> not quite sure why the packaged one didn't work though
[4:24] <yggdrasil> yea strange.
[4:24] <yggdrasil> ill have to do what you did
[4:24] <yggdrasil> so you have mixer control out of the interface ?
[4:24] <Tachyon`> er, one sec
[4:25] <yggdrasil> i mean mpg123 just has no controll
[4:25] <Tachyon`> hrm, it would appear not
[4:25] <yggdrasil> its like one song at a time
[4:25] <yggdrasil> hmm.
[4:25] <Tachyon`> perhaps I missed something with the dependencies
[4:25] <yggdrasil> alsa bug ?
[4:25] <Tachyon`> sdl
[4:25] <yggdrasil> oh yea
[4:25] <Tachyon`> it's giving no mixerish options at all, no volume etc.
[4:25] <Tachyon`> it doesn't seem to do alsa
[4:25] <Tachyon`> oss, esd or sdl
[4:26] <Tachyon`> or some curious networked one I've never heard of
[4:26] <yggdrasil> the t ?
[4:26] <yggdrasil> na
[4:26] <yggdrasil> nas
[4:26] <yggdrasil> ?
[4:26] <yggdrasil> haha i was like what ?
[4:27] <Tachyon`> hrm, I did install libsdl-mixer1.2-dev
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[4:28] <Tachyon`> so not sure why it's not working
[4:28] <Tachyon`> perhaps it's just not supported with sdl
[4:28] <Tachyon`> it was there with oss
[4:28] <yggdrasil> really ?
[4:28] <Tachyon`> well, ish, the volume control worked
[4:28] <yggdrasil> mine doesnt work .
[4:28] <yggdrasil> oh yea it turns it to 0
[4:28] <Tachyon`> t still did nothing
[4:28] <yggdrasil> or to the current volume
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[4:32] <Tachyon`> no, it's definitely not giving me a mixer and I don't seem to have left anything out, odd
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[4:44] <Tickle> What is the issue?
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[4:50] <IanCormac> Oh my god. OpenElec is 10000x better than RaspBMC
[4:50] <IanCormac> It actually works and doesn't take 52 days to download
[4:50] <IanCormac> very impressive
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[6:07] <beaky> hello
[6:07] <beaky> can the raspberry pi be used without a display or keyboard/mouse?
[6:08] <beaky> and controlled from another device?
[6:08] <beaky> through ethernet or wifi
[6:08] <technomancy> beaky: sure
[6:08] <beaky> ah
[6:08] <beaky> how do I do a headless setup of the pi?
[6:09] <technomancy> beaky: raspian ships with a raspi-config script that you can use to turn on the SSH server
[6:09] <beaky> ah neat
[6:10] <technomancy> you'll need a keyboard and monitor to turn it on in the first place though
[6:10] <ParkerR> Is there a command to measure the USB chip temperature?
[6:10] <beaky> a raspberry pi would work nice as a baby server
[6:10] <ricksl> I thoguht it was enabled until it was disabled
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[6:10] <technomancy> ricksl: hm; I could be misremembering
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[6:11] <ricksl> I was sure that was the case, but either one of us could be wrong
[6:11] <technomancy> oh yeah, I think it works out of the box, but you have to install avahi-daemon in order to get a nice hostname for it
[6:11] <beaky> ah
[6:12] <ricksl> what does that do again?
[6:12] <beaky> what kind of power supply does the pi need? will a phone charger that supplies 5V 750mA do?
[6:12] <ricksl> avahi-daemon
[6:12] <ricksl> that should do as long as you aren't plugging anything heavy into the usb ports
[6:13] <ricksl> and by heavy i mean power heavy
[6:13] <technomancy> ricksl: avahi-daemon lets you do stuff like `ssh pi@raspberrypi.local`
[6:13] <beaky> avahi is some web server thing
[6:13] <technomancy> not a web server, just a network service autodiscovery tool
[6:13] <ricksl> Gotcha
[6:13] <beaky> ah
[6:13] <ricksl> I prefer raw ip thank you
[6:13] <technomancy> you can use it to help you find a web server though
[6:13] <ricksl> :P
[6:13] <technomancy> heh
[6:14] <beaky> is it safe to keep my pi without a cover?
[6:14] <beaky> I will hack a rudimentary cover out of the box it came in
[6:14] <technomancy> beaky: depends where you put it =)
[6:14] <beaky> I am worried that children will destroy it
[6:15] <ricksl> where are you using it?
[6:15] <beaky> in a living room full of kids
[6:15] <ricksl> or for what are you using it for.
[6:15] <beaky> it will be used to entertain children
[6:16] <beaky> as a home theater or something
[6:16] <ricksl> just put it behind the tv or something
[6:16] <beaky> these children have already destroyed a couple of laptops and ipads
[6:16] <beaky> ah xlent
[6:17] <ricksl> or invest in a case, I have an adafruit one I am happy with, I would imagine the hardest to break though would be a pibow case
[6:17] <ricksl> its just stacks of solid acrylic
[6:17] <beaky> heh
[6:17] <beaky> the case is more expensive than the pi itself :D
[6:18] <ricksl> Which case are you looking at
[6:18] <beaky> http://www.raspberry-pi-case.com/
[6:19] <ricksl> Well yes that one is made of machined aluminum
[6:19] <ricksl> I would imagine it would be expensive.
[6:19] <technomancy> that's for if you want your kids to be able to jump up and down on it repeatedly
[6:19] <ricksl> if not damn near indestructable.
[6:19] <wrea> I got the cheap one on sparkfun
[6:20] <wrea> Getting heatsinks for it in the mail tomorrow
[6:20] <beaky> ah
[6:20] <beaky> btw what do you guys use the pi for?
[6:20] <technomancy> I'm making an onboard computer for my car
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[6:21] <wrea> I'd get that case if it weren't like $80
[6:21] <beaky> wow a car computer
[6:21] <Blacklite> hah
[6:21] <Blacklite> interesting, i've been thinking of doing a similar thing
[6:21] <ricksl> I have used it for a lot of things, emulation station, media machine, sensor logger, thin client, always on vpn server
[6:21] <Blacklite> i'd love to replace that stupid japanese screen in the car with something useful
[6:21] <ricksl> field sdr recorder.
[6:22] <Blacklite> how do you plan on powering it from within the car?
[6:22] <wrea> I have a beaglebone black for my sdr stuff
[6:22] <technomancy> Blacklite: for some reason my aftermarket stereo refuses to display a clock for more than 10s, so I've coded up a binary clock in emacs lisp
[6:22] <ricksl> Yeah I have been meaning to pick one of those up, a bit more capable.
[6:22] <technomancy> Blacklite: just a USB adapter for the lighter outlet
[6:22] <Blacklite> ah yeah
[6:22] <Blacklite> i'd like to integrate mine a bit more
[6:22] <beaky> the car thing is a good idea
[6:23] <wrea> I have it streaming ADS-B right now
[6:23] <beaky> once the kids are done with this pi I might use it for the car
[6:23] <technomancy> I got the adafruit GPS module, and i'm experimenting with how crazy it would be to have a fully-audio navigation system
[6:23] <ricksl> air traffic?
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[6:23] <technomancy> (probably not that feasible)
[6:23] <ricksl> what reciever dongle do you use to get that band, thought a lot of them had problems in high bands
[6:24] <technomancy> navit looks pretty capable, but it's a bit of a beast to configure what with its insane fauxml config format =\
[6:24] <Blacklite> what about using android OS?
[6:24] <wrea> ricksl: I have on that uses the R820T instead of the e4k
[6:25] <wrea> 28-1700Mhz with no gap
[6:25] <technomancy> Blacklite: meh; the whole point of the pi for me was to be able to run anything in Debian
[6:25] <technomancy> android is a disaster for interactive development
[6:25] <Blacklite> ah
[6:25] <Blacklite> yeah i do like debian :)
[6:26] <pronto> http://i.imgur.com/8Zgjwif.jpg ghetto style cooling :D
[6:26] <ricksl> well it was meant to get kids programming, but the learning curve for android is intense
[6:26] <technomancy> well, anything in debian that's not on the JVM
[6:26] <technomancy> ricksl: dude. start with Racket
[6:26] <Blacklite> i'd love to have spotify in there though
[6:26] <technomancy> it's fantastic
[6:26] <ricksl> whats that
[6:26] <technomancy> android will scar your kids =(
[6:26] <Blacklite> lucky for me, i don't have kids :D
[6:26] <technomancy> ricksl: it's a language designed from the ground up for teaching
[6:27] <technomancy> it's a much more powerful language than java, and it ships with lots of good documentation and tutorials
[6:27] <ricksl> I don't have kids either, I was referring to the purpose of the raspberry pi project
[6:27] <technomancy> oh, oops; gotcha =)
[6:28] <ricksl> just a lowly college student
[6:28] <technomancy> I'm looking forward to when my kids are old enough for racket =)
[6:29] <wrea> I'm setting this pi up for my gf's nephew
[6:30] <ricksl> I setup a pi once that just loads into a basic prompt
[6:30] <ricksl> its actually quite boring
[6:31] <pronto> http://raspberry.bagels.xxx/templog.php lolol, wasn't thinking when i put the rpi on top of my a/v reciver... (its still there, just with a fan)
[6:32] <ricksl> Does the rpi have an embedded temp sensor
[6:32] <pronto> yep
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[6:32] <ricksl> i hear that asked so much here but i can never give an anser
[6:32] <ricksl> answer
[6:32] <wrea> technomancy: lol, I've been thinking i was in the SRS channel
[6:33] <technomancy> wrea: hah; oh yeah that's why you look familiar
[6:33] * technomancy waves
[6:34] <pronto> ricksl: cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp| awk -v FS=" " '{print $1/1000""}'
[6:34] <pronto> theres another way, but i forgot what it was
[6:34] <ricksl> Well now I know, and knowing is half the battle
[6:35] <pronto> also, if you're interested in graphing the cpu temp, here's how I did it: https://pronto185.com/blog/2013/02/14/raspberry-pi-gnuplot-temperature/
[6:37] <ricksl> nothing pleases me more than someone who documents their stuff thoroughly.
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[6:40] <technomancy> wrea: how is the beaglebone black treating you?
[6:41] <wrea> so far so good. Was wanting to put archlinux on it but it wouldnt boot to the sd card, so i went with ubuntu
[6:41] <technomancy> the extra pwm and analog pins look really intriguing, but I read some worrisome things about not having access to pwm outside assembler, and the angstrom vs ubuntu split looks unfortunate.
[6:42] <wrea> Yeah. Right now all im using it for is the rtlsdr, that'll probably change eventually
[6:42] <ricksl> And to be fair the pi has quite a bit going for it in the way of optimization, a lot more people from many projects making sure their software runs on it.
[6:43] <ricksl> as far as rpi vs beaglebone
[6:43] <ricksl> black
[6:43] <technomancy> ricksl: yeah, it's just pretty limited for robotics work when you need analog
[6:43] <technomancy> (I know wrea from the seattle robotics channel)
[6:43] <ricksl> I have been using a teensy 3.0, it is a dream to work with
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[6:43] <technomancy> oh yeah? that was actually the other one on my list to check out
[6:43] <technomancy> it looks really slick
[6:44] <ricksl> well actually it is annoying to program, there are a few caveats
[6:44] <technomancy> are you just using C?
[6:44] <ricksl> na arduino programmer, I know
[6:44] <ricksl> i am softcore
[6:44] <beaky> I love the arduino
[6:44] <ricksl> but i like the support I get with it.
[6:46] <technomancy> I wonder if you can compile chicken scheme for the teensy
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[6:46] <technomancy> I've been avoiding arduino due to the extremely limited language support, but running on ARM changes everything
[6:46] <ricksl> you need to use arm gcc or something like that, not ready/too lazy to go through that
[6:46] <technomancy> the only non-C I could find on the amtel chips was a really obscure forth
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[6:47] <ricksl> heh, people and their forth fetish
[6:47] <beaky> is arm better than arduino?
[6:48] <ricksl> that is a hard question to answer
[6:48] <technomancy> beaky: well it depends on what you want to do with it of course
[6:48] <ricksl> because arm encompasses microcontrollers as well as microprocessors
[6:48] <technomancy> if your goal is "program it in a language that isn't C" then it's far superior =)
[6:48] <beaky> heh
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[6:48] <beaky> I don't like C that much
[6:49] <beaky> but its better than the BASIC that other families love so much
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[6:49] <beaky> I wish there was a microcontroller that runs on lisp
[6:49] <technomancy> beaky: wellllll
[6:49] <beaky> or a better programming language than C
[6:50] <ricksl> java anyone? lel
[6:50] <technomancy> beaky: I'm fairly tempted to try to get chicken scheme to target the teensy
[6:50] <beaky> whats a teensy?
[6:50] <ricksl> it is an arduino clone
[6:50] <technomancy> beaky: http://www.pjrc.com/teensy/index.html
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[6:51] <beaky> wow its small
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[6:51] <ricksl> they have quite a few extra features such as more analog pins, and it has direct access to the usb which allows it to act like a keyboard/joystick
[6:51] <beaky> it uses atmel?
[6:51] <ricksl> most other arduinos and clones use a usb to serial chip to communicate and it is limited to only being a serial device.
[6:52] <ricksl> the teensy 2 and 2++ use atmel but the 3.0 uses some freescale processor i think
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[6:52] <technomancy> yeah, seems like it could complement the pi pretty nicely too
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[6:53] <ricksl> thats what I am hoping, ben heck used it to act like a joystick
[6:53] <beaky> people use arduinos and pis together?
[6:54] <ricksl> for a portable pi little game station thing
[6:54] <ricksl> All
[6:54] <ricksl> the
[6:54] <ricksl> time
[6:54] <beaky> or does a pi control everything
[6:54] <beaky> the arduino seems pretty wimpy
[6:54] <ricksl> the arduino is usually slave to the pi
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[6:54] <beaky> ah
[6:55] <ricksl> like the arduino will listen to sensors and the pi will run a webserver showing the outputs of those sensors.
[6:55] <ricksl> or graph the sensor data, log it, store it for a rainy day.
[6:55] <Odie_> I'd need arduino for having usb slave/client port
[6:56] <ricksl> i don't understand what you just said
[6:57] <Odie_> I want to make usb keyboard
[6:57] <Odie_> device that emulates one
[6:57] <beaky> I like the fact that the raspberry pi can serve as a mini programming environment
[6:58] <beaky> to progam arduino
[6:58] <Odie_> its a full blown computer, so why not
[6:58] <ricksl> well then you would probably want a teensy or arduino leonardo
[6:58] <Odie_> yeap
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[7:01] <Odie_> or some other device besides raspberry
[7:01] <Odie_> BeagleBone Black Cortex-A8 1GHz ARM Linux Platform -thingy seems to have usb host/client connections intergrated
[7:04] <ricksl> well its 1am so off to bed with me
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[7:04] <ricksl> ciao
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[7:04] <beaky> goodnight
[7:05] <beaky> can I make a raspberry pi clone?
[7:05] <beaky> with an avr?
[7:05] <Ben64> no
[7:05] <beaky> :(
[7:06] <technomancy> whoa
[7:06] <technomancy> I disabled rsyslog and shaved 10s off my boot time
[7:06] <Blacklite> :D
[7:07] <technomancy> has anyone tried switching to upstart to see what kind of effect it has?
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[7:09] <wrea> what distro are you using?
[7:09] <technomancy> wrea: just regular raspbian
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[7:10] <wrea> someones got to have tried switching to upstart
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[7:14] <beaky> oh no
[7:14] <beaky> the capacitor on my pi fell off
[7:14] <beaky> the big SMD one beside the usb port
[7:15] <technomancy> beaky: that's only there to stabilize crappy power supplies
[7:15] <beaky> ah
[7:15] <beaky> so my pi will work fine
[7:15] <beaky> I think I should try to solder it back
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[9:16] <ParkerR> Totally pro VESA mount http://i.minus.com/ifACSlXVfDD27.JPG
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[9:20] <nid0> on that subject my new screens are arriving today \o/
[9:21] <gordonDrogon> ParkerR, Haha...
[9:22] <ParkerR> gordonDrogon, It's not even a VESA screw -_-
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[9:35] <nerdboy> looks like i have an lirc recipe...
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[10:57] <kai> morning folks
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[10:58] <kai> how mouch power can I draw via the 5V pins from P1?
[11:01] <hyperair> less than your input power, that's for sure.
[11:04] <h40534> i think its 50mA max
[11:05] <kai> 50mA I can see in the spec for the 3.3V
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[11:06] <kai> hm, hang on, I need to rethink that anyway
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[11:07] <h40534> From the wiki the "maximum permitted current draw from the 3v3 pin is 50mA" and the "maximum permitted current draw from the 5v pin is the USB input current (usually 1A) minus any current draw from the rest of the board." The current draw for Model B is stated as 700mA so with a 1A power supply this leaves about 300mA to play with.
[11:07] <kai> great, thanks
[11:10] <mgottschlag> isn't the 5V pin after the fuse though?
[11:11] <kai> ok. I need to think this through properly again. I want to drive a bunch of 1-wire sensors, and then turn on a green, yellow and red LED depending on the temperature ranges
[11:11] <kai> so I need the voltage at logic levels, in any case
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[11:12] <mgottschlag> you can give your circuit a stronger 5V supply and power the pi from that
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[11:14] <kai> hm, the sensors peak at 1.5 mA while converting the measurements, so even if I have 10 of those and they all trigger at the same time, I'm looking at 15 mA
[11:16] <histo> kai: your sensors dont' have to be powered by the pi either
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[11:18] <kai> so, is there a way to power the pi without going via the micro-usb?
[11:18] <nid0> if its a rev2 you can power it through the usb ports
[11:18] <nid0> or the header pins
[11:18] <shiftplusone> kai, you can power directly through gpio, but you're bypassing some protection circuitry then (same with powering through USB).
[11:19] <kai> ok, ok, so if I put 5V power on P1 pin 2 and 4, that should be fine?
[11:19] <shiftplusone> if those are the 5v and GND pins, yes.
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[11:20] <shiftplusone> and keep in mind you have no fuse protecting the pi if you do that.
[11:20] <kai> well, gnd is pin 6, that'd be common in any case..
[11:21] <shiftplusone> ah
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[11:28] <kai> hm, ok, I'm still not quite there yet conceptually :/
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[11:31] <kai> so I probably need a transistor to drive the LEDs
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[11:37] <kai> otoh, I only ever run one LED at a time, so that maxes me out at 30mA for yellow, and adding the 15mA for the sensors still ends up below the 50mA max to source from the GPIO pins
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[11:37] <kai> I think for prototype 1, that'll do :/
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[12:50] <beaky> hello
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[13:27] <mumbles> so my pi is working again
[13:27] <pronto> \o/
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[13:32] <mumbles> pronto: i think it is the sd card i was useing
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[13:40] <pronto> mumbles: ah, when mine was having issues , it wsa the chrager i was using
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[13:43] <beaky> hello
[13:43] <beaky> how do I install an OS on my pi
[13:44] <beaky> without hooking it to a monitor
[13:44] <pksato> use pre instaled image, instead a installer like berryboot or noobs.
[13:45] <beaky> noobs
[13:45] <beaky> heh
[13:47] <Bushmills> same as you would install an OS if the monitor was connected
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[13:49] <Bushmills> it's not that you insert a installation cd into the pi and follow the installation dialog
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[13:56] <FR^2> What makes more sense for connecting a serial interface (GPS, both 5V and 3.3V levels possible) to the raspberry pi? I've got a CP210x USB-to-serial converter, and there is of course the option of the GPIO pins.
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[14:00] <beaky> is there any downside to using the arch distro over the recommended raspbian or noobs?
[14:01] <Encrypt> I think Arch is a bit more difficult to use for newbies...
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[14:01] <beaky> ah
[14:01] <beaky> so it boots into a barebones command line
[14:02] <beaky> (btw I didn't know arch had support for ARM :D)
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[14:02] <Bushmills> it's easier to get support for raspbian because more people use it
[14:02] <beaky> thought it purely supported i686 or x86-64
[14:03] <beaky> yeah all my friends use some raspbian with lxde and python
[14:03] <beaky> when I inevitably go to them for help they will see archlinux and go 'wtf is this' ^^
[14:03] <beaky> but I guess archlinux is the second most popular distro on the pi so I won't be in trouble :D
[14:03] <beaky> do you guys use it?
[14:04] <Bushmills> debian on servers, debian on workstations, raspbian on pi
[14:04] <beaky> ah
[14:05] <Bushmills> cubian on cubieboard. also debian based
[14:05] <beaky> debian was my first linux distro
[14:05] <beaky> but I didn't like the old packages, so I chose arch next :D
[14:05] <Bushmills> my third
[14:05] <beaky> debian is pretty awesome
[14:06] <beaky> is the software on raspbian also ancient? ^^
[14:06] <Bushmills> you must be talking about debian stable
[14:06] <Bushmills> you can choose, you know?
[14:06] * cccyRegeane_Away is now known as cccyRegeaneWolfe
[14:06] <beaky> ah
[14:06] <Bushmills> ripened and stable, or changing a lot and not garanteed to work
[14:07] <beaky> how bad can sid be? is it true that once in a while basic utilities like fsck and grep break?
[14:07] <Bushmills> everything can happen with sid
[14:08] <beaky> sid is prettty exciting
[14:08] <Bushmills> how does that fit to your "old packages" idea?
[14:10] <beaky> ah
[14:10] <beaky> yes sid is probably as bleeding edge as arch
[14:11] <beaky> btw what is 'hard float ABI'
[14:12] <beaky> that the rasperry pi downloads page talks about
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[14:13] <Bushmills> using arithmetic coprocessor, as opposed to using software emulation
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[14:19] <beaky> ah
[14:19] <beaky> that is neat
[14:19] <beaky> my raspberry pi smells like
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[14:20] <FR^2> strawberries?
[14:21] <Bushmills> fried potatoes
[14:22] <tig|> magic smoke?
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[14:23] <beaky> like all three
[14:24] <beaky> yay I booted into my pi :D
[14:24] <beaky> but I can't start vi; it says 'read only file system'. why is that?
[14:26] <Bushmills> mount will tell you
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[14:27] <Bushmills> watch out for those pesky "ro"
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[14:27] <davezZz> jesus this is killing me
[14:27] <beaky> ah damn
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[14:29] <davezZz> has anyone got a solid, noob proof, tutorial on cross compiling a kernel in assembler for an rpi, every tutorial has dead links or changes things half way through
[14:29] <davezZz> assembly*(?)
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[14:30] <spacebug^> just sent one of my Pis to a company that offers free colocation for RPis :)
[14:30] <chithead> compiling in assembly? assembly is assembled, not compiled
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[14:30] <davezZz> you got a tutorial then chithead?
[14:31] <chithead> on what exactly?
[14:31] <davezZz> exactly what i just asked, cross compiling arm asm for the rpi in linux
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[14:32] <chithead> if you have arm asm and want to make elf binaries out of it, just install cross toolchain and run ${CTARGET}-as on it
[14:32] <davezZz> im a total linux noob
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[14:32] <davezZz> this is the issue, i literally need to be spoon fed via a tutorial possibly with diagrams
[14:33] <davezZz> i've installed the toolchain from code sourcery
[14:33] <chithead> perhaps you first need to make clear what exactly it is that you have, and what is the desired output
[14:33] <davezZz> ive installed the tools from the rapsberrypi github, utils? i cant remember
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[14:34] <davezZz> i have ubuntu in VM
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[14:38] <mumbles> has anyone got a gmail user@domain account working ?
[14:38] <chithead> ok but ubuntu does not come with arm assembly code. so you got that from somewhere else
[14:39] <tig|> mumbles: In what way? I have google apps for my domain
[14:40] <pronto> http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/pirate3d/the-buccaneer-the-3d-printer-that-everyone-can-use?ref=live apprently this 3d printer uses a RPI
[14:40] <mumbles> tig|: the e-mail notification thing
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[14:41] <mumbles> last time i traid it faild
[14:41] <mumbles> while thats installing im going to getlunch
[14:44] <davezZz> no, i got the cross compiler from codesourcery
[14:45] <davezZz> yup
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[14:55] <beaky> when I connect a wifi dongle to my pi, it resets (if it is on) and won't boot properly. whyis that?
[14:55] <Encrypt> Not enough power
[14:55] <Encrypt> I imagine...
[14:56] <chithead> it uses too much power and/or you have a poor power supply
[14:56] <beaky> ah
[14:56] <beaky> I have a 1000mA power supply
[14:56] * cccyRegeaneWolfe is now known as cccyRegeane_Away
[14:56] <beaky> maybe I should hunt for a 2A supply?
[14:56] <pronto> http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=112&cp_id=10851&cs_id=1085102&p_id=10273&seq=1&format=2 <<
[14:56] <chithead> unfortunately the mA rating does not tell you whether the psu is good or bad. try using a powered hub in between
[14:56] <mumbles> powered usb hub
[14:56] <beaky> whats a powered usb hub?
[14:57] <pronto> i have that one , it fixed one of my issues (would lock up after a few days)
[14:57] <pronto> a usbhub with ext power
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[14:58] <beaky> ah
[14:59] <tig|> beaky: I had that exact same thing, plugging in or unplugging the wifi dongle made it reboot, switched power supply and it works
[15:00] <tig|> well that and I have stopped plugging and unplugging the wifi dongle
[15:02] <Encrypt> beaky, Just buy this kind of thing: http://www.dlink.com/us/en/home-solutions/connect/usb/dub-h7-7-port-usb-2-0-hub
[15:02] <Encrypt> D-link products are great :)
[15:03] <IT_Sean> ... was that sarcasm?
[15:03] <IT_Sean> or did you really just say that D-Stink was great?
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[15:04] <Encrypt> IT_Sean, I said that D-link products work well :D
[15:04] * IT_Sean blinks
[15:04] <Encrypt> IT_Sean, I have switches & hubs from this brand working properly...
[15:05] <IT_Sean> Okay
[15:05] <beaky> ah
[15:05] <beaky> so my power supply sucks?
[15:05] <Encrypt> beaky, Ya
[15:05] <beaky> damn
[15:05] <beaky> wtf
[15:05] <Encrypt> IT_Sean, Did you have any bad experience with D-link products?
[15:05] <beaky> I paid 10 bucks for this premium phone charger
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[15:06] <Encrypt> beaky, Anyway, whenever you have something to add to the PI that consume power
[15:06] <Encrypt> beaky, The best thing to do is to buy a powered USB Hub
[15:06] <IT_Sean> Encrypt: I have NEVER had a D-Link product that was not complete and utter crap
[15:07] <Encrypt> With a powered USB Hub, you can both power your Pi and add accessories (keyboard, mouse, WiFi dongle...)
[15:07] <tig|> the amazon kindle power adaptors make great pi power supplies in my experience
[15:07] <Encrypt> IT_Sean, When did you buy your last D-link product?
[15:07] <IT_Sean> Encrypt: It's been a while.
[15:07] <chithead> the psu that came with my ultra-cheap china tablet also works well
[15:08] <Encrypt> Because new one work properly for me as far as I'm concerned
[15:08] <IT_Sean> Okay. Fair 'nuff.
[15:08] <Encrypt> I bought my first one 2 years ago
[15:08] <Encrypt> A D-link Green Ethernet switch (5 ports)
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[15:10] <tig|> IMHO : d-link got a bad rep (in the UK) for crappy wifi points and routers despite being flogged for lots of money at big box stores. I have used a few more modern stuff and it is better than it used to be but their wifi stuff used to be utter garbage and they used to just push the products out to market then attempt to fix them with firmware updates later
[15:11] <mumbles> it works
[15:12] <Encrypt> tig|, Ok :)
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[15:13] <tig|> personally I avoid d-link as it is usually more expensive and I doubt that the quality is any better. Even d-link must be able to manage a USB hub or dumb switch by now :)
[15:14] <chithead> I like that d-link routers have a firmware recovery mode, so they are almost impossible to brick
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[15:16] <IT_Sean> I have had several D-Link routers die on me after only a few months of service. I switched to Netgear after that, and haven't had a problem since.
[15:17] <IT_Sean> I still have the first Netgear router i ever bought. It's racked up over 500 days continuous uptime, last i checked.
[15:17] <tig|> I think all the consumer router ranges have garbage in them at the moment
[15:17] * IT_Sean checks it, just out of curiosity
[15:17] <IT_Sean> 573
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[15:21] <mumbles> i now have a led notifiyer
[15:21] <mumbles> on my raspberry pi
[15:21] <tig|> hurrah!
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[15:38] <flibble> please excuse the slightly rubbish camera phone shot
[15:38] <flibble> my new pi case
[15:38] <flibble> http://www.marutan.net/pics/20130625_142615-rot.jpg
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[15:40] <tig|> flibble: that is awesome :)
[15:40] <donta> flibble: I love it!
[15:40] <donta> flibble: does it close?
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[15:41] <flibble> yep, no battery though, I did managed to power it off 1.5A battery but shorted it out trying to fit it in the case :)
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[15:42] <pronto> seems like it could get hot in there
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[15:43] <flibble> pronto: yes, that is a slight worry, but given none of the other plastic cases seem to melt, I might get away with it
[15:43] <pronto> well, not that, but the cpu temp
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[15:43] <IT_Sean> should be fine on that front
[15:43] <pronto> eg; not lasting as long run running hotter
[15:43] <flibble> I have a ram chip heatsink on the CPU and USB/Eth chip
[15:44] <pronto> ah
[15:44] <pronto> flibble: like this ? http://i.imgur.com/ZgUzfeU.jpg
[15:45] <flibble> yep, but on the other chip too
[15:46] <pronto> http://i.imgur.com/8Zgjwif.jpg i'm ghetto cooling like this atm xD
[15:46] <pronto> (that one has no heatsink)
[15:46] <flibble> hah
[15:47] <flibble> yeah, maybe I should fit a fan too :)
[15:47] * IT_Sean groans
[15:47] <flibble> http://www.marutan.net/pics/20130605_002237.jpg
[15:47] <flibble> http://www.marutan.net/pics/20130524_184422.jpg
[15:47] <flibble> work in progress picks
[15:48] <tig|> daft question, you know the CSI camera, would the amount of memory I assign to the GPU have an effect on streaming speed?
[15:48] <pronto> lol,nice
[15:48] <flibble> (I did tidy up after that last pic)
[15:48] <pronto> i cant say anything about messy places
[15:48] <pronto> mines worse
[15:48] <pronto> :(
[15:48] <flibble> hehe
[15:48] <flibble> well I'm up to three monitors on the desk now, I needed to make some space
[15:48] <pronto> http://raspberry.bagels.xxx/templog.php but yeah, ou can see when i put the fan under the pi
[15:49] <flibble> hah, work filters off .xxx it seems :)
[15:49] <pronto> :(
[15:49] <IT_Sean> as well it should
[15:49] <IT_Sean> No pron at work!
[15:49] <pronto> http://66.228.33.103/templog.php ?
[15:50] <flibble> hah, that worked :)
[15:50] <pronto> see the graph?
[15:51] <pronto> ok, good, you should. since i didnt specify the domainstuff in the htmlcrap
[15:51] <flibble> how are you monitoring it, is there an internal sensor? or an external one?
[15:51] <pronto> theres an internal sensor
[15:51] <pronto> cat /sys/class/thermal/thermal_zone0/temp| awk -v FS=" " '{print $1/1000""}'
[15:51] <flibble> oh ...
[15:51] <pronto> theres some other way
[15:51] <pronto> but thats how i do it
[15:51] <beaky> any tips for making the pi boot faster?
[15:52] <pronto> flibble: https://pronto185.com/blog/2013/02/14/raspberry-pi-gnuplot-temperature/
[15:52] <pronto> flibble: as far as i know, most arm cpu's have sensors for heat
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[15:52] <flibble> is the awk doing a divide by 1000?
[15:52] <pronto> yeah
[15:52] <flibble> ok, mine is running at 51.9 in the lego case
[15:53] <flibble> which is not terrible, but I've not really put it under any load
[15:53] <pronto> mine had been running at 50/55c for days no issues. but i like cpu's to try to be around 30c
[15:53] <pronto> if possible*
[15:54] <Encrypt> pronto, Did you test the PiHolder case?
[15:54] <pronto> Encrypt: what do you mean?
[15:54] <Encrypt> It seems to be the perfect case to cool the Pi
[15:54] <pronto> http://makezine.com/review/tool-review-barch-designs-raspberry-piholder/ ?
[15:55] <Encrypt> pronto, Ya
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[15:56] <Encrypt> pronto, I think I'll soon buy one
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[15:59] <pronto> http://i.imgur.com/QMyTBRG.jpg i want this case (i like stackable things)
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[16:01] <Encrypt> :p
[16:01] <chithead> if you do a google image search for raspberry pi colocation, you will find some space efficient designs
[16:01] <IT_Sean> Almost anything it stackable, pronto.
[16:01] <IT_Sean> *is
[16:02] <chithead> e.g. with lego http://cdn-static.cnet.co.uk/i/c/blg/cat/desktops/25-things-raspberry-pi/25-things-to-do-with-raspberry-pi-cluster.jpg
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[16:03] <pronto> http://imgur.com/a/oPfVh
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[16:07] <pronto> http://www.amazon.com/Setek-Triple-Raspberry-Pi-Case/dp/B00BGUE4W8/ref=cm_pdp_imgs_itm_title_1 but its unavaliable :(
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[16:08] <flibble> chithead: I like your thinking, lego is the answer to most of my engineering problems :)
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[16:13] <mumbles> for the pi
[16:14] <IT_Sean> Write one.
[16:14] <mumbles> trying to find one.
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[16:58] <gryphraff> mumbles: Weather............: `curl -s "http://rss.accuweather.com/rss/liveweather_rss.asp?metric=0&locCode=90230" | sed -n '/Currently:/ s/.*: \(.*\): \([0-9]*\)\([CF]\).*/\2\3, \1/p'` will get you a basic weather output (current conditions and temp)
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[16:59] <gryphraff> The location is set after locCode, ZIP for the USA and you'll need to find out what you need for the rest of the world.
[17:00] <Bushmills> mumbles: curl (some_weather_site) | html2text | grep (some_matching_weather_condition) && sendxmpp ...
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[17:01] <Bushmills> seem i was a bit late for that :)
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[17:01] <gryphraff> heh, not my script, I just copied it from an edited login profile I lifted from someone else.
[17:02] <gryphraff> That's here: http://pingbin.com/2012/12/raspberry-pi-awesome-custom-motd/
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[17:02] <Bushmills> mine notifies :)
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[17:03] <gryphraff> Notifications are overrated :D
[17:04] <Bushmills> so are door bells
[17:04] <gryphraff> That's why I don't have one.
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[17:05] <Bushmills> letterboxes, same foolishness, after all, you can call potential senders
[17:05] <Bushmills> can poll, i mean
[17:06] <gryphraff> I would take the mailbox off my house if the city didn't frown on it. Only thing I get is junk mail.
[17:07] <gryphraff> weatherusa.net has a nice comprehensive landing page with weather info, and they offer a severe storm notification system. I've used it for a few years now, it's pretty timely.
[17:07] <gryphraff> Setting it up is rather unintuitive, but it does worl.
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[17:07] <gryphraff> work.
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[17:12] <HonkeyGenius> speaking of doorbells (this has nothing to do with the pi) the past 2 dogs my family has adopted both have reacted to the sound of the doorbell on the television when we don't even have a doorbell in the house.
[17:13] <HonkeyGenius> just thought it was funny. they must have learned it from previous owners.
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[17:56] <mumbles> ?
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[17:57] <mumbles> has anyone got https://github.com/themightyug/ledborg-server working?
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[19:21] <FR^2> What makes more sense for connecting a serial interface (GPS, both 5V and 3.3V levels possible) to the raspberry pi? I've got a CP210x USB-to-serial converter, and there is of course the option of the GPIO pins. Opinions? Experiences? ^^
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[19:26] <dreamon_> What is this upper connector for? Position S2 on upside of the sd-card
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[19:28] <FR^2> dreamon_: http://elinux.org/RPi_Hardware
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[19:32] <dreamon_> FR^2, Thanks. S2: DSI interface. 15-pin surface mounted flat flex connector, providing two data lanes, one clock lane, 3.3V and GND.
[19:32] <dreamon_> Is there a nice display out there?
[19:32] <SpeedEvil_> dreamon_: It's a decoy.
[19:33] <SpeedEvil_> It's an entirely useless bit of plastic and metal.
[19:33] <SpeedEvil_> that is only usable by those with the proper chipset datasheet.
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[19:34] <SpeedEvil_> At best, at some point in the future, there may be one canned display that comes out - and does not allow you to connect up any other display.
[19:34] <dreamon_> SpeedEvil_, Ok.
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[19:52] <Zakami> So what should I do with my Raspberry Pi?
[19:52] <Zakami> I've had it for a while and all I've done is a motion tracking camera.
[19:53] <mgottschlag> reverse engineering!
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[19:53] <Zakami> What do you mean?
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[20:00] <mgottschlag> nothing, unless you love assembler - we are currently trying to find out how to use the undocumented parts of the pi :)
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[20:00] <Zakami> Ah, fun fun fun
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[20:28] <Bushmills> wouldn't a Forth interpreter/compiler be great for revese engineering?
[20:28] <Bushmills> reverse even
[20:29] <mgottschlag> what do you mean?
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[20:29] <Bushmills> interactive access to ports, on the fly assembly, equivalent of scripting...
[20:29] <mgottschlag> for reverse engineering the pi?
[20:29] <mgottschlag> ah
[20:29] <Bushmills> yes
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[20:30] <mgottschlag> well, I can't really imagine any current problem where it would help much compared to C/assembler
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[20:30] <technomancy> Bushmills: interactivity isn't really a problem on the pi like it is with most microcontrollers.
[20:30] <Bushmills> no edit-compile-run cycle. but an incremental compiler on-board
[20:31] <mgottschlag> in the end, you spend 5% of the time writing your small (<200 lines usually) test program, and the rest is spent analyzing the output :)
[20:31] <mgottschlag> yeah, it would probably make things a little bit more convenient
[20:32] <Bushmills> i've done a fair share of very low level work, and reverse engineering. a Forth interpreter/compiler proved extremely valuable
[20:32] <Bushmills> that is, one running without an intermediate operating system.
[20:33] <Bushmills> i.e. the interpreter being the equivalent of an operating system
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[20:34] <Bushmills> read from port? not even a program needed. $addr @ . to output its contents (memory mapped ports assumed=
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[20:35] <technomancy> the pi is deceiving; it's really not a low-level machine at all. it's more powerful than most of the computers I've owned in my life. =)
[20:35] <mgottschlag> hm, I can see how this would be great for quickly scripting hardware initialization
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[20:37] <Bushmills> i've been finding flaws in for example pentium CPUs (apart from the prototypes the cpus were used on) with such environments - those you also wouldn't consider "low level machines"
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[20:39] <Bushmills> and went through the whole shebang with it, initializing north bridge, settung up pci/dram, initializing pci bridges and devices, adding master/slave communication over compact pci. the department using C for the same task was lagging by months in comparison
[20:39] <mgottschlag> Bushmills: anyways, want to do some more reverse engineering... on the pi? ;)
[20:39] <Bushmills> that's where interactivity really helped
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[20:39] <Bushmills> i was actually thinking about it
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[20:40] <Bushmills> but i'm still 2 steps behind - i need to get acquainted with ARM assembly first :)
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[20:41] <Bushmills> without that, I can't really put a decent Forth together
[20:41] <mgottschlag> heh, we don't even have the arm core running yet :D
[20:42] <mgottschlag> after all the GPU boots the system, and we are far away from that point where the whole system is started
[20:42] <Bushmills> i may post you my project history so you can judge my suitability for some reverse engineering :)
[20:43] <mgottschlag> fortunately the videocore has a quite simple general purpose CPU though, it could have been much worse if it was a large VLIW processor :)
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[20:44] <Bushmills> mind me PMing you an URL?
[20:44] <mgottschlag> why should I?
[20:46] <mgottschlag> huh, github has a new design
[20:46] <mgottschlag> anyways, https://github.com/hermanhermitage/videocoreiv :)
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[20:57] <ricksl> so when i do i2c detect on my pi it says that there are devices on 03 through 07
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[21:29] <FR^2> re. I just remembered that I have an emergency rechargeable battery pack (for my smartphone). Now it's powering my pi, but it seems the pi also gets power from the powered usb hub :/
[21:30] <steve_rox> back powered?
[21:30] <plugwash> Lots of USB hubs fail to follow the USB spec
[21:30] <steve_rox> i dont know if thats a threat to the rpi or not
[21:30] <steve_rox> id be suspitious
[21:31] <FR^2> I'll try and connect the wireless usb stick and the cp210x serial port usb stick directly to the raspi's hub and see ;)
[21:32] <steve_rox> would be like shoveing two 5v sources into it
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[21:46] <kaste> Where is the temperature sensor on the pi located and what's the highest sane reading (without longterm damage)?
[21:47] <kaste> I read 70\circ C shouldn't be overstepped, is that true?
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[21:54] <kaste> My guess is this is based on the temperature the lan chip is certified on but none of this takes any stand on longterm damage
[21:54] <mgottschlag> FR^2: GPIO
[21:55] <mgottschlag> oops
[21:55] <mgottschlag> looks like my irc chat doesn't scroll anymore
[21:55] <mgottschlag> ignore it :)
[21:55] <mgottschlag> (related to "<FR^2> What makes more sense for connecting a serial interface (GPS, both 5V and 3.3V levels possible) to the raspberry pi? I've got a CP210x USB-to-serial converter, and there is of course the option of the GPIO pins. Opinions? Experiences? ^^")
[21:56] <IT_Sean> the easiest would probably be a USB / Serial adapter
[21:56] <FR^2> mgottschlag: Advantages? Disadvantages? ^^
[21:56] <mgottschlag> GPIO works, is easy and you don't have additional hardware
[21:56] <FR^2> I read up a bit, in order to use the GPIO pins for serial communication I need to disable the service that connects a console to it, if present
[21:57] <mgottschlag> disadvantage: you have to make a 1-line edit in config.txt and inittab first
[21:57] <ricksl> if you use gpio you need to fiddle with the cmdline.txt
[21:57] <mgottschlag> but I'd certainly trade those two small edits for the additional power usage
[21:57] <plugwash> BTW make sure you don't feed 5V into the Pis GPIO
[21:58] <FR^2> Hmm. Indeed. The gps board is supposed to need only about 40mA
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[21:58] <plugwash> if you have a 5V device serial device you will need level shifting on the signal from the device to the Pi and possiblly also on the line from the Pi to the device
[21:59] <IT_Sean> ^ that
[21:59] <IT_Sean> the raspi gpio is 3.3v. do NOT attach a 5v device to 3.3v pins.
[21:59] <FR^2> the board has six pins, GND, power ( 3V .. 5.5V), rx/ttl, tx/ttl, rx/5v, tx/5v ;)
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[22:02] <plugwash> check what exactly they mean by "TTL"
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[22:03] <plugwash> real TTL devices aren't gauranteed to give 5V on their outputs but they aren't gauranteed not to give 5V on their outputs either
[22:03] <plugwash> so you can't safely feed them into a 3.3V input that is not 5V tolerant
[22:04] <IT_Sean> plugwash is correct. Feeding 5v to the 3.3v GPIO pins on a raspi will cause that pin (if you are lucky) or the whole raspi (if you are not) to stop working.
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[22:07] <FR^2> I'll connect them to 230V first, in order to make sure the raspi isn't damaged by the gps module.
[22:07] <FR^2> ;)
[22:07] <IT_Sean> O_O
[22:07] * IT_Sean covers his ears
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[22:08] * FR^2 .oO( I shouldn't have initiated apt-get update and apt-get upgrade... Damn, it's still running... :/ )
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[22:09] <Bushmills> should be both safe unless you've specified unstable
[22:09] <FR^2> Okay, can anyone point me to a good howto on disabling the serial console? ^^
[22:10] <Bushmills> /etc/inittab
[22:10] <Bushmills> sorry, no howto. simply edit the lines out
[22:11] <FR^2> already are.
[22:11] <Bushmills> you may want to peruse some youtube video on how to operate a text editor
[22:11] <Bushmills> after edit, run init q
[22:11] <FR^2> cmdline.txt - I probably should remove the params concerning ttyAMA0
[22:12] <IT_Sean> I am an abysmal nerd. I looked at my phone a few minutes ago, at 4.04pm, and my first thought was "heh. 404. phone not found"
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[22:13] * Bushmills wonders what IT_Sean would have thought had he looked on his phone a quarter of an hour later
[22:14] <IT_Sean> at 4:19?
[22:14] <IT_Sean> what's 419?
[22:14] <Bushmills> you could have thought "it's almost 4:20"
[22:14] <IT_Sean> Ooooh
[22:15] <IT_Sean> well, yeah, there is that as well.
[22:16] <IT_Sean> hey, don't knock it, 4/20 is a proper holiday if you work in the restaurant business. It's bigger than christmas for crapssake :p
[22:16] <HonkeyGenius> my raspberry pi starts up my vaporizer at 4:19
[22:17] <IT_Sean> GPIO triggered relay?
[22:17] <FR^2> Okay, both cp210x and wlan stick work fine connected directly to the raspi with the raspi powered by the battery pack :)))
[22:17] <HonkeyGenius> at first i said that as a joke and now....... i think it could work!
[22:18] <IT_Sean> Call it the Pi Warmer
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[22:19] <HonkeyGenius> Vapo-pi
[22:19] <Bushmills> a montypythonish reporter story: http://scarydevilmonastery.net/reporting.mov
[22:19] <HonkeyGenius> Vap-pi-rizer
[22:20] <HonkeyGenius> err Va-pi-rizer
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[22:24] * IT_Sean prefers PiWarmer
[22:25] <HonkeyGenius> PiPrimer?
[22:25] <Bushmills> Pee warmer?
[22:25] <IT_Sean> No.
[22:25] <IT_Sean> Pee is warm enough as it is. It doesn't need warming.
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[22:26] <HonkeyGenius> if i put some apple fragrance in there it could be a Hot Apple Pi Warmer
[22:26] <FR^2> Cool, okay, setup works with the cp210x adapter.
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[22:40] <savid> Anyone here ever hook a raspberry pi up to a roomba? I'm curious if it's possible to power my rpi with the roomba SCI port.
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[22:40] <IT_Sean> what voltages and signaling schemes are present in a roomba SCI port?
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[22:44] <savid> IT_Sean, that's one thing I'm trying to find. I found a pinout diagram that says that pins 1 and 2 are labeled as "Roomba Battery + (unregulated)"
[22:45] <savid> IT_Sean, http://i.imgur.com/Ndx1MyH.png
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[22:47] <Squarepy> this looks like more detail, http://n952.dyndns.ws/roomba/
[22:47] <IT_Sean> I wouldn't connect to that without knowing exactly what the voltage is, and how much it can vary
[22:48] <IT_Sean> the fact that ist is unregulated means it's probably a bad idea to attach a raspi to it
[22:48] <savid> I should note that I'm a software developer and this would be my first foray into hardware hacking :-)
[22:49] <FR^2> gpsd:WARN: Satellite data no good (1 of 1).
[22:49] <savid> IT_Sean, would I need some hardware sitting between the rpi and the SCI pins to regulate the voltage?
[22:51] <savid> This guy shows how he's powring an Arduino with the SCI port. http://skaterj10.hackhut.com/files/2013/01/RoombaWiringDiagram-550x357.jpg
[22:51] <savid> The battery itself is 14.4v
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[22:52] * savid is itching for a new project, hoping this isn't too ambitious
[22:53] <FR^2> Yeah, I've got a fix on my location :))))
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[22:58] <FR^2> Cool thing :)
[22:58] <FR^2> Next thing is to use the gpio pins instead of the usb cp210x connector. Tomorrow. I'll call it a day for now.
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[23:01] <IT_Sean> savid: Yes.
[23:02] <savid> IT_Sean, so assuming I have voltage regulation, does the power go into the micro-usb port somehow, or do the GPIO pins accept power input as well?
[23:02] <savid> (again, I'm a complete hardware newb)
[23:03] <IT_Sean> You can power the raspi via the micro USB, or by feeding a (properly regulated) 5 volts into the 5v GPIO pin.
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[23:04] <savid> It would have to be regulated going into USB as well, correct?
[23:04] <IT_Sean> Yes
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[23:07] <savid> Gotcha. I'm going to do more research. I see a visit to radioshack in my future.
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[23:09] <rikkib> When feeding the RPi via the gpio port you need a little more than 5v
[23:09] <rikkib> I use adjustable DC-DC converters
[23:10] <ozzzy> I feed in 5.25 and have 5.01 on the board
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[23:10] <ozzzy> that's with the wireless thingy running
[23:10] <rikkib> Yep 5.25v is about what I set
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[23:13] <rikkib> http://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-PCS-LLOT-LM2596-DC-DC-Converter-Power-Supply-Buck-Step-Down-Module-4-40V-to/526499533.html
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[23:13] <SpeedEvil> rikkib: those have a dropout voltage of .8V IIRC
[23:14] <SpeedEvil> If you actually feed in 5.25 into them, you will get about 4.7 out
[23:14] <SpeedEvil> Or do you mean you feed 5.25 into the Pi?
[23:14] <rikkib> In = 12v
[23:15] <rikkib> Out = 5.25v
[23:15] <SpeedEvil> Ah
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[23:15] <rikkib> 12v = 13.8v actually as I run off a radio PS
[23:15] <maxinux> you ham nerds
[23:15] <maxinux> s/s//
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[23:16] <rikkib> ZL1UPB
[23:16] <maxinux> i have a alinco bench supply i use for about everything
[23:16] <maxinux> n6zo
[23:16] <techkid6> and out of the blue, the pi works again
[23:16] <techkid6> idk what i did?...
[23:16] <rikkib> Licensed 1981
[23:16] <techkid6> but, it works :D
[23:18] <maxinux> before i was born .. typical
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[23:19] <Bushmills> you threatened to toss it into the river ankh
[23:19] <rikkib> Old geek... Maybe a geek before the word was invented.
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[23:23] <nickgaw> Hi, Can the raspberrypi manage where if I have two of them setup they act as one so instead of having 700 MHZ I would have twice that amount of speed regardless of what one I connected to?
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[23:24] <linuxstb> Short answer - no.
[23:25] <nickgaw> are the new camera boards prebuilt or are they like the gert boards?
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[23:27] <rikkib> I would guess they are SMD so is not likely a user build
[23:27] <linuxstb> Yes, they're pre-built.
[23:27] <nickgaw> how do they connect to the raspberrypi?
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[23:28] <rikkib> Have they been released yet?
[23:28] <linuxstb> A month or two ago. They connect via an attached ribbon cable
[23:28] <linuxstb> (the ribbon cable is attached to the camera board when you buy it)
[23:28] <nickgaw> where on the raspberrypi do I plug it in? is it on the large pin connector?
[23:29] <rikkib> Do they actually work?
[23:29] <linuxstb> I forget, but there is video tutorial on the raspberry pi website.
[23:30] <nickgaw> I am totally blind and was planning on using it for OCR reading printed documents. are these tutorials well audio discribed?
[23:30] <linuxstb> I think so. But I'm sure you can find written instructions somewhere. Or just ask here.
[23:30] <savid> Ok, so here's another question. The TXD pin on the Roomba's SCI is "0-5V serial output". Would that fry the rpi?
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[23:32] <rikkib> Yes 5v bad for RPi
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[23:32] <rikkib> GPIO is 3.3v
[23:32] <nickgaw> is the raspberrypi breaks do they fix them?
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[23:33] <linuxstb> nickgaw: Here is the article about the camera board - the text includes install instructions. http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/3890
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[23:33] <stapper> fixing it will cost $35
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[23:33] <nickgaw> so you are saying buy a new one?
[23:34] <stapper> yes
[23:34] <nickgaw> why don't they fix them?
[23:34] <stapper> I think the cost would be to high
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[23:36] <nickgaw> is still one GHZ the fastest it can go up to overclocking or can I get it faster?
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[23:37] <stapper> It's yours you can do with it what you want... You may be able to clock it higher I'v read somewhere there's one that runs 1200Mhz, but let me just check that
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[23:40] <stapper> I managed to get my Pi up to 1200mhz with overvolt of 6 and a heatsink on the processor [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCZIqqflISw]
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[23:47] <nickgaw> what is the name of the watchdog module called?
[23:48] <rikkib> Watchdog no go last time I used it... To make it go I had to modify code
[23:50] <nickgaw> yes but what module controls it?
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[23:51] <rikkib> Give me a minute... Trying to remember
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[23:54] <rikkib> bcm2708_wdog is the module name for ./etc/modules
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[23:54] <rikkib> apt-get install watchdog I think installs the scripts
[23:55] <rikkib> But I had to install the souirce and make a very small mod to code
[23:56] <rikkib> I pushed my code up to the debian developer but whether it has made into the distro yet
[23:56] <rikkib> I can find my patch if you wish.
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