#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-06-29

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[0:00] <drkcodeman> only $2,499.00
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[0:00] <ozzzy> the only money being made by bitcoin mining is being made by the people selling the machines
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[0:02] * Bushmills waiting for announcement of the GA576 CPU
[0:02] <Bozza> It's running
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[0:03] <Bozza> Hmm usb keyboard is broken
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[0:03] <Bozza> Wait it works in windows
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[0:06] <Bozza> Nope the USB keyboard isn't working in openelec
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[0:06] <Bushmills> that's a "no, it is"?
[0:06] <Bushmills> oh, isn't
[0:07] <Scriven> ozzzy, i think asicminer's stock holders are maybe not agreeing right now.
[0:07] <Scriven> not sure if they're started to sell their farm or not.
[0:07] <ozzzy> I count them in with the machine builders
[0:07] <Scriven> but AFAIK they're still just mining and payingg dividends.
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[0:07] <Bushmills> why don't they use their gear to mine bitcoins?
[0:07] <Bushmills> thought that was what their devices are made for
[0:07] <Scriven> Bushmills, they are, and sold stock in the mining company.
[0:08] <Bushmills> so, devices mine, everybody happy?
[0:08] <Scriven> but they're the only ones AFAIK, everyone else is selling mining hardware directly, passing the risk on to their customers.
[0:08] <Scriven> well, their share holders are happy anyway.
[0:08] <Scriven> so far.
[0:08] <Scriven> has split at least once that I know of.
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[0:08] <Bushmills> shareholders are happy when stock prices rise,
[0:09] <Scriven> I haven't been following them, since I didn't buy stock. lol
[0:09] <ozzzy> dunno... I"ve never bought stock
[0:09] <Bushmills> there's no need that that's directly related to company profits
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[0:09] <Bozza> Is there an openelec channel?
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[0:10] <Scriven> a 447 page thread about AsicMiner: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=99497.0
[0:10] <Bushmills> therefore, whether share holders are happy is not a good indication of their equipment paying itself back
[0:10] <Scriven> they're not a 'traditional' stock company that's traded on NASDAC or anything, AFAIK. it may be better to call it 'shares' than 'stocks', but i'm no economics expert.
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[0:12] <Bushmills> i think somebody bulding equipment worth the money for mining would be stupid to sell it
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[0:13] <Bushmills> best would be, sell it when it's reaching the limits of balance between effort and payback
[0:13] <Scriven> Asicminer agrees with you, and Avalon doesn't, apparently. Afaik butterfly labs is still vapourware WRT asics.
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[0:13] <Scriven> and I haven't heard of any more entries into the asic market personally.
[0:13] <Bushmills> by then better equipment may have been developed, which is used instead
[0:13] <Bushmills> being sold a bit later
[0:14] <Scriven> yeah, sell of 1st generation as you turn on your 2nd generation, rinse, repeat
[0:14] <Scriven> sell off even.
[0:14] <Bushmills> no company says "here is what we use to generate money, and we'll share it with you so that less is left for us"
[0:15] <Scriven> bbiab, taking kids to park. ;)
[0:15] <Bushmills> they may say "we share it with you because we don't have any use for it any longer, as this obsolete gear has been replaced already"
[0:16] <Bushmills> "we sell you scrap with a premium price tag" :)
[0:19] <Bozza> Damm it I couldn't figure out why my USB hub peripherals werent coming up in Linux
[0:19] <Bozza> Turns out its not plugged in
[0:19] <Bozza> Only the power is plugged into the pi
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[0:32] <Bozza> Is a 5v 2.5a powered USB hub ok?
[0:33] <ozzzy> why not
[0:33] <ozzzy> it'll surely provide all the current that is needed by the hub
[0:34] <Bozza> Yes that's what I thought. Some guy in #openelec doesn't like it .. Meh
[0:34] <ozzzy> 4-port?
[0:35] <pksato> Bozza: hub works on other computer?
[0:36] <Bozza> 7 port
[0:36] <ozzzy> then 2.5A isn't enough
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[0:36] <Bozza> It works yes
[0:36] <ozzzy> let me rephrase that... it's not enough IF you want it to deliver 500mA per port
[0:36] <Bushmills> depends what is actually plugged in
[0:36] <pksato> if connect 7 full power devices
[0:36] <ozzzy> if you have a bunch of webcams plugged into it you might end up in trouble
[0:37] <Bushmills> webcams 500 mA ??
[0:37] <ozzzy> my ToUCam draws a lot of current
[0:37] <Bushmills> maybe those with IR LEDs for illumination?
[0:38] <ozzzy> most of the things I plug in just draw a handful of mA
[0:38] <Bushmills> well, one wouldn't want to put a 7 usb disks array together with that
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[0:39] <Bushmills> or a battery of usb cup warmers
[0:39] <Bozza> ozzzy: right now I not have a keyboard, wifi module Bluetooth module and a hard disk plugged in
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[0:43] <ozzzy> should be fine
[0:48] <Bozza> It works fine .. I just don't want the pi to fry
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[0:48] <Bozza> Fried pi doesn't taste good
[0:48] <ozzzy> Bozza: you won't fry the pi by drawing too much current from the hub
[0:48] <x7ewis> were any of you online earlier when it was mentioned about using a pi for bitcoing mining?
[0:48] <ozzzy> if you EVER draw too much from the hub
[0:49] <Bozza> Cool cool
[0:49] <x7ewis> Because I just saw this on the homepage lol: http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/4243
[0:49] <SpeedEvil> x7ewis: GPU mining might still be profitable - not CPU
[0:49] <SpeedEvil> Pi is basically insane
[0:49] <SpeedEvil> And not in a good way
[0:49] <x7ewis> Yeah haha
[0:50] <x7ewis> I wouldn't even bother on any computers that I own tbh
[0:50] <SpeedEvil> Oh - right.
[0:50] <SpeedEvil> It's not actually mining on the pi.
[0:50] <ozzzy> I wouldn't bother on anything
[0:51] <x7ewis> Oh yeah, I didn't read it properly haha
[0:51] <x7ewis> Quickly going back to your previous topic, would drawing too much current from the Pi itself damage it?
[0:51] <KiltedPi> nope!
[0:52] <KiltedPi> It will corrupt an sd card, x7ewis
[0:52] <KiltedPi> Too much power, or power in the wrong place will brick a pi
[0:52] <SpeedEvil> Depending on what you mean - maybe.
[0:52] <KiltedPi> But putting too little power- will never bust a circuit man
[0:52] <SpeedEvil> Drawing too much current from a GPIO can damage it.
[0:52] <SpeedEvil> KiltedPi: And that's also wrong.
[0:52] <KiltedPi> My dad taught me that
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[0:52] <SpeedEvil> KiltedPi: It can damage motors, and some SMPSs.
[0:53] <KiltedPi> Aye,
[0:53] <KiltedPi> Its a good rule of thumb tho
[0:53] <SpeedEvil> Is it less likely to damage things - sure.
[0:53] <x7ewis> What I mean is, I plugged my iPod into it to charge it a while ago because the Pi was using my only charger, but I had a spare Apple USB
[0:53] <x7ewis> I'm guessing I shouldn't do that?
[0:54] <x7ewis> brb 2mins
[1:00] <Bushmills> i thought i asked KiltedPi already what he means by "too much power"
[1:00] <Bushmills> i'm still curious
[1:02] <KiltedPi> Who is 'Alan' on Gordons wiringPi?
[1:02] <KiltedPi> On his forum-
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[1:02] <KiltedPi> I just re-wrote his code, posted the solutions on there. if you're in here, Alan!
[1:02] <KiltedPi> :)
[1:04] <Bushmills> KiltedPi: how could i put too much power on a pi so it gets bricked?
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[1:05] <Bushmills> if i use a power supply which says "5 volt 2.2 A", is that too much power for a pi?
[1:05] <Bushmills> thus, should i better use one with only 1 A?
[1:06] <ozzzy> Bushmills: you don't PUSH power into something... that thing PULLS power out
[1:06] <Bushmills> i'm asking KiltedPi
[1:06] <ozzzy> erp
[1:06] <ozzzy> sowwy
[1:06] <ozzzy> carry on
[1:06] <SpeedEvil> But ozzzy is correct
[1:06] <Bushmills> because i want to understand what he means that you can brick a pi with too much power
[1:06] <SpeedEvil> Ah
[1:07] * ozzzy 's pi is hooked up to an automotive battery right now
[1:07] <x7ewis> Read this: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=26&t=6620 Bushmills
[1:07] <Bushmills> why? what is it?
[1:09] <Bushmills> well, seems that KiltedPi is ignoring me anyway
[1:09] <Bushmills> did so when i asked before
[1:09] <Bushmills> but restates his "you can brick a pi with too much power"
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[1:10] <ozzzy> you can brick a pi by overvolting it
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[1:10] <Bushmills> power != voltage
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[1:10] <ozzzy> nope... it sure doesn't
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[1:16] <netman87> hmm can someone help with mysql?
[1:17] <netman87> i have somehow tricky question. i want to make query which gives me username and how many rows for that user have value1=1 and value2=1
[1:17] <netman87> basically those are boolean
[1:17] <netman87> even better if i can do it for multible users at time
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[1:19] <x7ewis> I think the clever people are sleeping haha
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[1:19] <mrneb> ZZZZzzzzz
[1:19] <x7ewis> Nice;)
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[1:20] <x7ewis> You needed to see my message before you joined haha
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[1:22] <IT_Sean> I did, aye?
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[1:22] <x7ewis> Oh ahah
[1:22] <steve_rox> indeed
[1:22] <Bozza> Hmm I got a weird bug in openelec. When I select an hdmi channel before the pi boots I get white snow when I stared a video
[1:22] <Bozza> Overlayed over the video
[1:22] <IT_Sean> o_O
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[1:22] <steve_rox> needs thermal clothes then
[1:22] <steve_rox> with that weather
[1:22] <x7ewis> I really need something interesting to do with my pi... I've done XBMC, I've done Torrent Downloader, I've done SAMBA etc, I've done Web Server, VNC, what else software based can I do, that isn't too difficult, but is still cool?
[1:23] <Bozza> steve_rox: haha yea
[1:23] <steve_rox> ;-)
[1:23] <IT_Sean> x7ewis, well, what do you need on your network?
[1:23] <steve_rox> im somewhat short on rpi ideas too
[1:23] <Bozza> If I switch to a different hdmi channel on the pioneer receiver and switch back it works fine
[1:23] <Bozza> Strange
[1:23] <x7ewis> I don't 'need' anything really
[1:23] <steve_rox> so i built my rpi into a project box with lcd
[1:23] <Bozza> Maybe I will try raspbmc
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[1:23] <x7ewis> Raspbmc is great :)
[1:24] <Bozza> Isn't openelec a lot fasterZ.
[1:24] <Bozza> ?*
[1:24] <x7ewis> IT_Sean what could a Pi do on a network though?
[1:24] <IT_Sean> x7ewis, anything your typical lightweight linux machine could!
[1:24] <x7ewis> I don't know, I've always used Raspbmc and it's always worked perfectly so I just keep using it :)
[1:24] <Bozza> But does it blend?
[1:24] * IT_Sean runs OpenELEC
[1:24] <steve_rox> havent figured out samba shares yet myself
[1:25] <x7ewis> I use linux, but I still don't really know the full extent of what is possible
[1:25] <IT_Sean> it's a computer, x7ewis. You are limited only by your imagination
[1:25] <x7ewis> Fair point!
[1:25] <steve_rox> and money
[1:25] <x7ewis> Haha
[1:26] <x7ewis> Maybe I should start looking at the pen testing OS or something
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[1:26] <mrneb> My current project, is a making a PI + USB cam or capture device into a IP camera that can do things like stream to ustream.com and wirecast
[1:26] <x7ewis> That's quite cool!
[1:26] <KiltedPi> okay
[1:26] <KiltedPi> I'm getting there
[1:27] <KiltedPi> I've found the bit i need in the datasheet for the thermistor: "D[31:18]"
[1:27] <x7ewis> I would try something like that too, but I don't have a web cam, they're all built in... and I already have an IP camera :/
[1:27] <KiltedPi> and gordons wiringpi lib seems to be okay so far
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[1:27] <x7ewis> Turning my laptop off now, are there any good IRC clients for iPhone?
[1:28] <steve_rox> i have my rpi doing a time lapse shot with the rpi cam at moment ,, kinda dull i spose
[1:28] <IT_Sean> x7ewis, LimeChat
[1:28] <x7ewis> It's doing more than mine steve_rox!
[1:28] <IT_Sean> 's what i use on my iPad
[1:28] <x7ewis> Ah okay thanks, I'll check it out now:)
[1:29] <x7ewis> I'll be back on in a couple of mins
[1:29] <steve_rox> www.zen74792.zen.co.uk/images/P1060356_A.jpg
[1:29] <steve_rox> thats my rpi
[1:29] <steve_rox> earlier image maybe it will inspire
[1:29] <steve_rox> lcd on front
[1:29] <mrneb> I've got the video side sorted, but adding in audio pushes the PI over the limit currently :-(
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[1:31] <KiltedPi> I have no idea how to use wiringpi's "wiringPiSPIDataRW()" function.- its supposed to read/write SPI interface. My pi is 'GPIO'd' up fine to the thermocouple- but how do I access a bit?
[1:31] <KiltedPi> As in, access a particular bit on the thermistor integrated circuit I'm hooked up to?
[1:31] <KiltedPi> Here's the datasheet for the thermistor: http://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/MAX31855.pdf
[1:32] <KiltedPi> And here's a link to gordons library
[1:32] <KiltedPi> Theres only two functions here- https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/spi-library/#comment-2723
[1:32] <KiltedPi> but I have no idea how to explore it
[1:32] <KiltedPi> It says ". Data that was in your buffer is overwritten by data returned from the SPI bus."
[1:33] <Bushmills> maybe ther was too much power on the spi bus?
[1:33] <KiltedPi> no no,
[1:33] <ozzzy> there you go
[1:33] <KiltedPi> Its the coding i've no idea how to do!
[1:33] <KiltedPi> The "char*buffer" part
[1:33] <KiltedPi> has me confused
[1:34] <ozzzy> ummm... that's just a pointer to a buffer holding chars
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[1:34] <KiltedPi> I understand "wiringPiSPIDataRW(Channel -"
[1:34] <KiltedPi> I'm using channel 1, that much is obv
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[1:35] <KiltedPi> but the buffer bit...
[1:35] <KiltedPi> So I create an array maybe? Called buffer[100]? for example?
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[1:37] <KiltedPi> like why is the format "unsigned char*data"
[1:37] <KiltedPi> oh!
[1:37] <KiltedPi> *data
[1:37] <KiltedPi> its a POINTER!
[1:38] <mrneb> yes ... that is the * :)
[1:38] <KiltedPi> okie dokie
[1:38] <KiltedPi> we're getting somewhere
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[1:46] <KiltedPi> Okay someone have a look, error is "passing argument of 'printf' makes pointer from integer without a cast, argument is of type int"
[1:46] <KiltedPi> http://pastebin.com/GqYU43mN
[1:46] <KiltedPi> Thats my code.
[1:46] <KiltedPi> Urghhh
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[1:46] <KiltedPi> its c
[1:46] <KiltedPi> too.
[1:46] <KiltedPi> Final hurdle here.
[1:46] * mrneb has a look
[1:47] <KiltedPi> ta!
[1:47] <KiltedPi> theres just the main loop there
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[1:47] <KiltedPi> the function for WiringSPIDataRW() is here on gordons page:https://projects.drogon.net/raspberry-pi/wiringpi/spi-library/#comment-2723
[1:47] <KiltedPi> Somewhere :(
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[1:48] <KiltedPi> making a pointer out of an integer without a cast.
[1:48] <KiltedPi> no idea what that even means man
[1:48] <pksato> KiltedPi: get some used K&R C book.
[1:48] <KiltedPi> What kind of cast?
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[1:49] <ozzzy> it means that you're trying to change a char* into an int without a cast
[1:49] <linuxstb> KiltedPi: A cast is when you convert one type to another - e.g. integer to pointer. So you would do "int i = (int)p;"
[1:49] <ozzzy> erp... other way
[1:50] <ozzzy> an into into a char*
[1:50] <ozzzy> an int
[1:50] <mrneb> yea instead of printf(iResult); you need something like 'for(int x; x < 10; x++) printf("0x%x", buffer[x]);
[1:50] <pksato> use printf
[1:50] <KiltedPi> I don't think so mrneb
[1:51] <KiltedPi> I just have mis-matched types
[1:51] <KiltedPi> I dunno how to resolve it
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[1:52] <KiltedPi> Maybe I need to print the buffer tho.
[1:52] <KiltedPi> You think?
[1:52] <KiltedPi> Damn.
[1:52] <mrneb> you also might need instead of 'unsigned char *buffer' you need 'unsigned buffer[10]; ''int iResult = wiringPiSPIDataRW(channel, &buffer[0], 10);'
[1:52] <mrneb> depends if wiringPiSPIDataRW allocates memory ..
[1:53] <mrneb> or relys on the caller allocating memory for the buffer ...
[1:53] <KiltedPi> the function performs a simultaneous read/write
[1:53] <KiltedPi> and the buffer is over-written by the data from the SPI bu
[1:53] <KiltedPi> s
[1:53] <KiltedPi> bus*
[1:54] <mrneb> that sounds like you need pre-alloc the buffer then :)
[1:54] <KiltedPi> so the value (unsigned char *buffer) part is confusing me
[1:54] <pksato> declare var, set value to var, use it.
[1:54] <KiltedPi> Roger that
[1:54] <KiltedPi> just treat it like any other var in my mind
[1:54] <KiltedPi> the syntax has thrown me tho
[1:55] <ozzzy> why.... it's normal c
[1:55] <KiltedPi> Forget the *?
[1:55] <KiltedPi> I don't know c. I know java :)
[1:55] <KiltedPi> I'm teaching myself as I go
[1:55] <KiltedPi> diff syntax to me
[1:55] <ozzzy> try printf( "%d", iResult );
[1:56] <KiltedPi> Ah!
[1:56] <KiltedPi> thanks
[1:56] <KiltedPi> I was just googling that ozzy
[1:56] <KiltedPi> I am checking the forums and stuff-
[1:56] <KiltedPi> before I ask for help incidentally,
[1:56] <KiltedPi> I'm not lazy
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[1:56] <mrneb> I know Java and C btw :) image a Java array you have initialize it before putting data there.
[1:57] <KiltedPi> An array? of characters?
[1:57] * KiltedPi mind melts
[1:57] <KiltedPi> :D
[1:57] <ozzzy> actually... the code says use printf( "%s/n", buffer );
[1:57] <KiltedPi> Its not a char-
[1:57] <KiltedPi> Thats whats f'ing me up i think
[1:57] <KiltedPi> in my mind, a char is a letter like "a,b,c"
[1:57] <KiltedPi> like in BASIC
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[1:58] <ozzzy> printing iResult will just tell you how many chars were read/written?
[1:58] <KiltedPi> an Unsigned Char is just a 0-255 byte of mem
[1:58] <ozzzy> printing the buffer will tell you what came in
[1:58] <KiltedPi> Negative ozzy
[1:58] <KiltedPi> it returns -1 when it fails
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[1:58] <ozzzy> yes... because the buffer is empty
[1:58] <KiltedPi> The var i need is buffer, i realise that now, thanks
[1:58] <KiltedPi> Yus
[1:59] <KiltedPi> So initialising the buffer with buffer[10]
[1:59] <KiltedPi> and printing, here we go!
[1:59] <pksato> KiltedPi: http://net.pku.edu.cn/~course/cs101/2008/resource/The_C_Programming_Language.pdf
[1:59] <mrneb> C memory management is a bit of headfuck really if your used to Java and Basic. What your passing to the wiringPiSPIDataRW is a pointer to a buffer which you need to provide the memory for...
[1:59] <mrneb> lol pksato
[2:00] <KiltedPi> your actually being a bit of a jerk pksato, but its cool. I'm a very mellow dude!
[2:00] <mrneb> basically buffer is not just a variable :P
[2:00] <KiltedPi> I am googling, and forumming-
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[2:00] * ozzzy agrees with pksato... get a copy of K&R
[2:00] <KiltedPi> The problem was syntax
[2:00] <KiltedPi> I've sold t.
[2:00] <KiltedPi> solved it
[2:00] <KiltedPi> thanks to neb and ozzy
[2:00] <KiltedPi> I've also learned a thing or two, thanks to them.
[2:01] * ozzzy looks up at his K&R on the shelf
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[2:01] <mrneb> I used to nick K&R from people at work when it was needed lol :)
[2:02] <KiltedPi> Yeah, every single bit is accounted for I'm noticing
[2:02] <KiltedPi> In java, its almost careless.
[2:02] <KiltedPi> :)
[2:03] <ozzzy> a C program that will bring your system to its knees will compile with nary an error too.... so watch what your doing
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[2:04] <mrneb> C compiler will accept just any old bollocks as long as it meats the syntax - dinny necessary mean it will work and do what you want :p
[2:05] <ozzzy> no... and if your OS doesn't have good protection you can overwrite stuff you shouldn't
[2:05] <ozzzy> in mem that is
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[2:06] <pksato> C without understanding of pointer is useless. I dont understand pointers. :)
[2:06] <Tachyon`> it's just an indirection operator
[2:06] <Tachyon`> like ?, ! etc. on the BBC
[2:07] <ozzzy> ie: when you pass the pointer to a string of chars... you're not passing the string of chars but the address of the first char in the string... you don't get the string until the function you're calling dereferences it
[2:08] <ozzzy> and you can use arithmetic to manipulate the pointers....
[2:09] <KiltedPi> ozzy, free for a private message mate?
[2:10] <ozzzy> quickly
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[2:23] <mrneb> ozzzy: always amazes me people think that for example "typedef struct mys { int a; int b; } mys; mys a[2]; mys *b = &a; b++;" results in b being 4 more than a (with a 32bit CPU)"
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[2:26] <ricksl> JakeSays did you get it yet?
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[2:30] <KiltedPi> My buffer is full of the unicode "?" character. damn
[2:30] <KiltedPi> At least I have a buffer now tho eh?
[2:30] <KiltedPi> So I'm reading data from this thermistor thats hooked up to the GPIO now
[2:32] <pksato> dont print raw data, convert ir to hex.
[2:35] <KiltedPi> The data thats getting fired at it from the thermistor pksato, what is it?
[2:36] <KiltedPi> I mean, I know its the temperature, but it's in Hex?
[2:36] <pksato> not, its is on raw bits.
[2:37] <pksato> you need to format data to show correct information.
[2:38] <KiltedPi> so how do i dessiminate the bits from the thermistor? I've got the datasheet- I just need to know where to start :)
[2:38] <KiltedPi> Table 2 and 3 on the datasheet there-
[2:38] <KiltedPi> http://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/MAX31855.pdf
[2:39] <KiltedPi> Theres a 14 bit value I wanna pull there: D[31:18]
[2:39] <KiltedPi> Thats the internal temp, so thats the chap I'm after
[2:42] <KiltedPi> rite, i'll look at it tommorow. its latw
[2:42] <KiltedPi> late
[2:42] <KiltedPi> nite. thanks for the help anyway guys!
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[3:42] <Bozza> What does an .img file contain? Everything on the SD?
[3:43] <IT_Sean> yes
[3:43] <IT_Sean> it's a complete disk image
[3:43] * ozzzy is back
[3:43] <IT_Sean> you need to write that image to the SD card
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[3:56] <timmmaaaayyy> i just installed openvpn on my pi....any idea why theres no tunnel interface and 'service openvpn status' shows nothing? is there something funky with new builds of raspbmc that breaks openvpn? i have it working fine on three older pis
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[3:57] <Katty> herro cupcakes!!
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[4:11] * IT_Sean is exparimenting with underclocking the GPU on his old laptop, for gits and shiggles mostly.
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[4:13] <Scriven> gits and shiggles eh...
[4:13] * Scriven will have to remember that one.
[4:14] <Scriven> pig-latin-swearing is AOK! :P
[4:14] <Scriven> well, pig-latin-esque anyway.
[4:14] <IT_Sean> :|
[4:15] <Scriven> Ah, spoonerism! I knew there was a name for it. :)
[4:15] <ozzzy> spooning is fun
[4:16] <IT_Sean> I have it down to 42mgz (85% under stock), and we're still stable, although artifacts still appear when something redraws.
[4:18] <ozzzy> I know this has been asked a gazillion times... but is there a programming entry into the VC4?
[4:18] <IT_Sean> Found the limit.
[4:18] <ozzzy> I always saw the question but never the answer
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[4:18] <IT_Sean> 40MHz (86% under) causes the video to sketch out a bit
[4:21] <Scriven> 86% underclock.... nmad!
[4:21] <IT_Sean> Yeah
[4:22] <IT_Sean> Stock is 300MHz (GPU) and 200MHz (video memory) respectivly. I have it down to 42MHz and 15MHz respectivly.
[4:22] <IT_Sean> Any lower and i can lo longer read the text on the display.
[4:22] <Scriven> ozzzy, vc4?
[4:23] <IT_Sean> The area of the case near the GPU is notably cooler to the touch, as well.
[4:23] <Scriven> have an amp meter on there to measure how much power you're not using?
[4:23] <Scriven> that was the next question. lol
[4:23] <IT_Sean> I do not have an amp meter, so, no. :/
[4:23] <IT_Sean> Wish i did, tohugh.
[4:23] <IT_Sean> video is a bit funky, but, still usable.
[4:27] <ozzzy> Scriven: VideoCore IV
[4:29] * IT_Sean Case is continuing to cool off
[4:30] * IT_Sean bumps his GPU up just enough to stop the video glitchery, then locks the settings in
[4:30] <IT_Sean> Cooler case FTW
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[4:34] <Scriven> IT_Sean, need to plug it into a kill-a-watt and get some b4/after. ;)
[4:34] <IT_Sean> Next time im at the hardware store, i might grab one.
[4:35] <Scriven> ozzzy, AH, this was asked earlier re: gpu compiling. I think the answer is 'almost'.
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[4:45] <pronto> http://tasty.bagels.xxx/templog.php ~_~ thats one epc temp drop when i put a fan on it again
[4:46] <ozzzy> Scriven: 'almost' is good enough for now
[4:48] <Scriven> ozzzy, <mgottschlag> well, we have a somewhat working C compiler now
[4:48] <Scriven> <mgottschlag> also, #raspberrypi-internals :)
[4:48] <Scriven> FYI. ;)
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[6:03] <rtcg72a> I tried installing LXDE and openbox on the Pi, but when I try to startx, I get command not found. I followed the article on the archlinux wiki. where could I have gone wrong?
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[6:06] <steve_rox> is X installed? wild guess
[6:07] <rtcg72a> I did install X
[6:07] <rtcg72a> and they said I needed to copy some files to my home directory so that startx works, I tried, but I get command not found
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[9:54] <steve_rox> its too quiet
[9:54] <gordonDrogon> saturday morning here. morning after a lot of school end of term partys AIUI.
[9:55] <steve_rox> i guess
[9:55] <steve_rox> its saturday too in my location in the uk ;-)
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[9:55] <steve_rox> trying to figure out what would be a good battery for the rpi
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[10:12] <steve_rox> you can reverse power rpi thu its usb port but does power exit the original power in wires? i dont want feedback into my cd converter board
[10:17] <gordonDrogon> yes, power will feed out all power ports - GPIO and the �USB.
[10:17] <gordonDrogon> however the 'output' via the �USB goes via the polyfuse.
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[10:21] <steve_rox> maybe i shouldent try it then
[10:21] <steve_rox> i feed power in via the original power line not gpio
[10:22] <steve_rox> now to send a email to a ebay sender that failed to pay the correct delivery costs meaning i had to pay the differnece my end
[10:22] <steve_rox> annoying
[10:24] <steve_rox> thats what i get for ordering that replacement sd card reader for rpi
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[10:25] <Tickle> I just made a python script to tell me the date and time, then I set an alias for it. Then I tried the "date" command. Now I'm sad.
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[10:27] <ShorTie> date is a linux command
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[10:28] <Tickle> Yeah I know
[10:28] <Tickle> Oh well.
[10:29] <ShorTie> make it like Tdate maybe
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[10:56] <Bushmills> well, he could still write a calendar program in python, then discover cal
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[11:52] <xtraeme> hi, boost-1.53 uses the vs[tl]mia instructions if building with a hard float toolchain. Is there any workaround for that?
[11:52] <xtraeme> from what I've read those instructions are NEON specific
[11:52] <xtraeme> and rpi does not support NEON
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[11:56] <xtraeme> oh looks like I'm wrong
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[13:40] <x7ewis> What is better at streaming using AirPlay, Rasmbc or Openelec?
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[13:59] <definity> Whats the fastest OS of the PI with out a Windows Manager?
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[14:04] <x7ewis> Please vote: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=48539
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[14:07] <Bushmills> fast in what respect?
[14:07] <SpeedEvil> Just don't start X.
[14:07] <Bushmills> screen output? disk operations? waiting for keyboard?
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[14:08] <Bushmills> and, while we're at it, what still qualifies as "OS"?
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[15:01] <bertus> hallo
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[15:32] <Katty> morning
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[15:38] <tig|> does anyone know how to take a snapshot of a gstreamer stream without interupting it
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[15:57] <[Rock]> I just bought 5 Raspberri Pis how stoke should I be?
[15:58] <malcom2073> Don't know, how stoked do you feel?
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[16:01] <SpeedEvil> Depends if you will end up finding them in a drawer in 8 years time, and wishing you'd done something with them.
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[16:01] <[Rock]> hah
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[16:01] <malcom2073> I should probably buy another one one day, finally get hdmi working
[16:01] <malcom2073> heh
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[16:10] <LordDoskias> has anyone succeeded in installing gst-omx ?
[16:11] <LordDoskias> on raspbian
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[16:34] <yggdrasil> good day gents
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[17:04] <sperrhaken> Does the leaking of power from some USB-hubs, that results in unwanted writes, translate to corrupted filesystems?
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[17:13] <pronto> ... i make no sense, even when on same lan as my rpi, i always ssh to my vps, to ssh to the rpi... *facepalm*
[17:21] <pronto> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=m2JhkWJ2 this is awesome , starwars via tones
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[17:33] <gordonDrogon> afternoon.
[17:33] <pronto> moin
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[17:48] <SpeedEvil> gordonDrogon: Afterennone
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[18:01] <KiltedPi> So I'm streaming bits from an integrated circuit in SPI now.
[18:01] <KiltedPi> To my Pi's GPIO
[18:01] <KiltedPi> pretty neat
[18:01] <KiltedPi> I think i need to perform some weird bit operations to make sense of the data tho
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[18:15] <thesheff17> anyone here that has an LCD attached to the GPIO that can help me out to test that it is working?
[18:16] <thesheff17> this is the link I was told http://mypishop.com/Read%20Your%20Pi%20!.html
[18:16] <thesheff17> the examples don't even follow anymore the git repo :(
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[18:20] <KiltedPi> I soldered my own LED test circuit :)
[18:21] <nerdboy> thesheff17: what do you mean? does the code build?
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[18:22] <thesheff17> the code builds fine...the example says replace fd2= lcdinit line with another
[18:22] <thesheff17> and of course this isn't even in the lcd.c file
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[18:23] <nerdboy> then i guess you can either parse out the current values manually or ping the guy and bug him to update his little howto...
[18:23] <thesheff17> nerdboy, is there another simple example to try to make sure the LCD is working?
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[18:24] <thesheff17> or is this all locked into this specific LCD?
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[18:24] <nerdboy> no idea...
[18:24] <nerdboy> what came with the lcd?
[18:25] <thesheff17> just a link to that bad example :-/
[18:25] <thesheff17> nothing more
[18:25] <KiltedPi> Who's good at bit operations>
[18:25] <KiltedPi> ?
[18:25] <nerdboy> that's the only code they point to?
[18:25] <thesheff17> yea
[18:25] <thesheff17> you use a LCD you would recommend?
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[18:26] <KiltedPi> crikey, here's what I need to do, to read the temperature from my thermistor: http://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/MAX31855.pdf <--- on this datasheet, perform a bit operation to convert the 14 bits
[18:27] <nerdboy> no, just an IR sensor and the normal stuff so far
[18:27] <thesheff17> yea this is the one I ordered http://www.ebay.com/itm/251199998362?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
[18:28] <nerdboy> sounds like you get to hack the bad example yourself...
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[18:29] <thesheff17> haha yea...wish I was better with C
[18:29] <nerdboy> python would be easier...
[18:29] <mgottschlag2> KiltedPi: well, grab some paper, a pen, and then try to find out what "&", "|", "^", "~" etc do to bit strings
[18:29] <mgottschlag2> and find out how numbers are converted to bit strings
[18:30] <mgottschlag2> also, "<<" and ">>"
[18:30] <mgottschlag2> those are the C operators you need for bit manipulation
[18:30] <thesheff17> yea I def know python
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[18:30] <thesheff17> the site just doesn't have examples in python
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[18:31] <nerdboy> thesheff17: just keep in mind that indentation determines scope
[18:32] <nerdboy> man, fingers are slow today
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[18:40] <nerdboy> thesheff17: it says you need to get a slightly older version to get the python/ruby bindings
[18:41] <thesheff17> nerdboy, where do you see this?
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[18:42] <thesheff17> the other thing is I'm not 100% sure I solder this whole LCD correctly :-/
[18:43] <thesheff17> I haven't had to solder in almost a decade
[18:43] <thesheff17> and I'm rusty
[18:43] <thesheff17> the LCD at least powers up and show the square boxes like the how to says
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[18:43] <gordonDrogon> I've done LCDs on Pi's.
[18:44] <Opinie_> anyone tethering their Pi via iPhone?
[18:44] <gordonDrogon> oh look :) That link has my name on it :)
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[18:45] <Opinie_> just asking because it doesn't seem to impossible
[18:45] <nerdboy> thesheff17: in the um... readme file
[18:45] <nerdboy> https://github.com/WiringPi
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> thesheff17, what hardware do you have?
[18:45] <Opinie_> I can get the iPhone to share its interwebz but pi's having a spot of trouble playing along
[18:45] <gordonDrogon> nerdboy, that's only good for the Python version - use http://wiringpi.com/ for the C/C++ version.
[18:46] <thesheff17> gordonDrogon, this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/251199998362?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649
[18:46] <nerdboy> yeah, that's the point
[18:46] <gordonDrogon> thesheff17, ok - well, the C examples ought to work just fine.
[18:46] <nerdboy> to get the python bindings...
[18:47] <thesheff17> gordonDrogon, sorry very new to C and all this... this link http://mypishop.com/Read%20Your%20Pi%20!.html tells me to alter a line
[18:47] <thesheff17> that isn't contained in the lcd.c file
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[18:47] <thesheff17> so that is where I'm getting stuck
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> thesheff17, yes, you need to alter something. they're probably using an old version though.
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> ok hang on.
[18:47] <gordonDrogon> what does gpio -v give you?
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[18:47] <thesheff17> I have version 2
[18:48] <gordonDrogon> ok
[18:48] <thesheff17> I also have a version 1 if need be
[18:48] <thesheff17> if that is easier
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[18:48] <gordonDrogon> not really.
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[18:48] <gordonDrogon> Let me work out the changes...
[18:48] <thesheff17> k...thanks allot
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> edit lcd.c and search for the line that starts: lcdHandle = lcdInit (rows, cols, 4, 11,10, 4,5,6,7,0,0,0,0) ;
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> should be line 208.
[18:49] <thesheff17> k
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[18:50] <gordonDrogon> change this line: lcdHandle = lcdInit (rows, cols, 4, 11,10, 4,5,6,7,0,0,0,0) ; into lcdHandle = lcdInit (rows, cols, 4, 11,10, 0,1,2,3,0,0,0,0) ;
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> so 4,5,6,7 -> 0,1,2,3
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> save the file, then make lcd
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> run with: sudo ./lcd 4 20 4
[18:51] <nerdboy> there's a v2 python wrapper... maybe that's current wrt the C interface?
[18:52] <gordonDrogon> nerdboy, yes wiringPython ought to be using wiringPi v2 now, but I didn't do the python wrappers, only the C side of it all.
[18:52] <thesheff17> holy crap
[18:52] <thesheff17> its working :)
[18:53] <gordonDrogon> excellent.
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[18:53] <gordonDrogon> if you want to use Python, then just copy the same numbers.
[18:53] <thesheff17> excellent
[18:53] <thesheff17> thanks for the help
[18:54] <nerdboy> https://github.com/WiringPi/WiringPi2-Python
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> Stick to C - it's better ;-)
[18:54] <thesheff17> hehe
[18:54] * gordonDrogon is a python free programmer.
[18:54] <nerdboy> not if you know python and not C...
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[18:55] <gordonDrogon> I've been programming in C for 32 years now... Sort of sticking to what I know...
[18:56] <nerdboy> i started with basic and fortran
[18:56] <nerdboy> C didn't come until much later, unless you count matlab as a weirdly c-like...
[18:57] <nerdboy> even so, i was actually exposed to smalltalk before c or pascal
[18:58] <gordonDrogon> smalltalk... I applied for a job programming smalltalk once....
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[18:58] <gordonDrogon> they were going to train us up and everything, but it never came to fruitions.
[18:59] <nerdboy> turns out iv&v involves a lot of old/random languages, etc
[19:00] <nerdboy> so i can't really say i got to specialize in anything
[19:00] <nerdboy> other than analyzing old/random languages and systems...
[19:00] <ShorTie> does mcp3004.c work with a mco3008 too ??
[19:01] <ShorTie> mcp3008*
[19:03] <nerdboy> also turns out maintaining a linux distro just takes the analysis and includes a bit of hacking said languages, etc...
[19:04] <gordonDrogon> ShorTie, if you mean the wiringPi driver, then yes.
[19:05] <gordonDrogon> nerdboy, iv&v ?
[19:05] <nerdboy> independent verification & validation
[19:06] <gordonDrogon> ok
[19:07] <nerdboy> there's a nasa web site that more or less explains the concepts
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[19:28] <yggdrasil> gordonDrogon: you around ?
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[19:35] <Datalink> turbo is a legal setting for CPU overclock, right? won't void waranties?
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[19:37] <gordonDrogon> yggdrasil, hi
[19:37] <yggdrasil> how do ?
[19:37] <yggdrasil> sleeping ?
[19:37] <gordonDrogon> how do what?
[19:38] <yggdrasil> how are you doing
[19:38] <gordonDrogon> not sleeping - playing with BASIC.
[19:38] <yggdrasil> cool
[19:38] <gordonDrogon> ok. had a good day - lunch in a god dartmoor pub with famiy, etc. just chilling, you know :)
[19:38] <yggdrasil> im playing with loops in c
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[19:38] <yggdrasil> yea sounds good
[19:38] <gordonDrogon> loopy loo!
[19:39] <yggdrasil> yea not having much luck
[19:39] <yggdrasil> not focusing much actually
[19:41] <nerdboy> gordonDrogon: maybe i shouldn't have mentioned basic...
[19:41] <yggdrasil> http://pastebin.com/nGewQSFf
[19:41] <yggdrasil> tell me what you think of that ?
[19:44] <Datalink> yggdrasil, line 75 is missing a close quote
[19:45] <Datalink> printf ("OK\n) ; should be printf ("OK\n");
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[19:46] <Datalink> otherwise looks alright, though I'd add a microsleep to allow it to be nice to the rest of the OS
[19:47] <gordonDrogon> agrees.
[19:47] <gordonDrogon> How many LEDs do you have? (for i = 0 ; i < 5 ; ++i) will cycle over 5 les numbered 0, 1, 2, 3 and 4.
[19:47] <yggdrasil> ok
[19:48] <yggdrasil> i have um 5
[19:48] <yggdrasil> i think
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> then you have 0 to 6 in the 2nd loop.
[19:48] <yggdrasil> do i ?
[19:48] <yggdrasil> let me see.
[19:48] <gordonDrogon> a 7 segment display has (oddly enough :) 7 leds.
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> ah, it might not be a 7-segment display you're using.
[19:49] <yggdrasil> its not
[19:49] <yggdrasil> its just leds
[19:49] <gordonDrogon> however you define 6 LEDs - a-f
[19:49] <yggdrasil> yea its just 6 leds
[19:50] <yggdrasil> i havnt looked at it for a week
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> so the loop for that would typically be for (i = 0 ; i < 6 ; ++i) to cycle through 0,1,2,3,4 and 5 inclusive.
[19:50] <yggdrasil> ahh ok
[19:50] <yggdrasil> i still dont fully understand the void thing
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> Additionally, you can dispense with all the stuff about checking for root, or checking the wiringPi return code (if you like). wiringPi now halts the program if it errors rather than returning a code.
[19:50] <gordonDrogon> which line?
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> oh, on functions... it just means this is a procedure, not a function - and doesn't return anything.
[19:51] <gordonDrogon> foo() { ... } by default returns an int.
[19:51] <yggdrasil> http://pastebin.com/nGewQSFflike 33
[19:51] <yggdrasil> damit
[19:51] <yggdrasil> line 33
[19:52] <gordonDrogon> 33 says coid not void, however I get what you mean.
[19:52] <yggdrasil> yea
[19:53] <yggdrasil> i gotta go kids just broke a lamp
[19:53] <yggdrasil> bbl
[19:57] <gordonDrogon> :)
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[19:59] <nsgn> i'm trying to find a device that will passively measure color that is smaller/less CPU/power intensive than a camera
[19:59] <nsgn> i just need to know in general if the color of light shining the way of my sensor is more orange than blue or green or something
[20:01] <Bushmills> three, say, phototransistors, each with a color filter
[20:02] <Bushmills> probably even three LDRs would do
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[20:03] <Bushmills> together they form a single-pixel colour camera
[20:04] <nsgn> hmm
[20:04] <nsgn> i'll un-abscract what i'm trying to do and maybe that would help
[20:04] <nsgn> *abstract
[20:05] <nsgn> in one of our cars there is an orange light that comes on when you're low on fuel. i would like to read when that light is on without modifying any wiring in the car or opening up the seal on the gauge cluster
[20:05] <nsgn> i've already tried the OBDII approach. works great to read the fuel level on my ford, but the scion just doesn't offer it via OBD
[20:05] <nsgn> the light is an orange LED
[20:05] <nsgn> and is the ONLY orange thing in the gauge cluster
[20:06] <nsgn> but honestly i feel realiability of that approach by color probably still wouldn't be high enough
[20:06] <Bushmills> well, orange is about full red an half green
[20:07] <Bushmills> so when red sensor goes max and green around 50% while blue detects little light, you have orange
[20:07] <nsgn> my concern is the lens of the gauge cluster keeps me from getting closer than about 1.5 inches
[20:08] <nsgn> consider obviously being in a car the ambient light level is going to be fairly high too
[20:08] <gordonDrogon> what's wrong with just looking at the light every now and then? seems to work OK for my car...
[20:08] <gordonDrogon> all for a low-tech solution...
[20:08] <Bushmills> well, you had my suggestion. i'm not conmsidering. that's your job, you build it, after all
[20:09] <nsgn> 1) defeats the point of hacking :D 2) my project is to integrate this into my custom home automation display in the house. to show you the vehicle fuel level before you go to the garage so you can plan to fuel up the next day
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[20:09] <nsgn> most important thing ever? not at all. but a project i'm working on. already works perfectly with the ford by having a OBDII adapter plugged into a pi with wifi
[20:09] <gordonDrogon> I had a very low tech solution in one old car - I'd get a whiff of petrol smell just before it ran out, so I'd pull over and top it up from the can. No fuel guage...
[20:09] <nsgn> but the toyota/scion is presenting a problem
[20:10] <nsgn> since it wont play nice with OBD's fuel level PID
[20:11] <Bushmills> you know there are optics, called "lenses", if you want to lower ambient light influence
[20:11] <savid> Is there a way, with any amount of hacking, to view the raspberry pi serial console from an android device? I'd like to use my tablet to view the pi boot screen, log in, etc, without having to hook up a monitor and keyboard.
[20:11] <nsgn> savid, SSH..?
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[20:12] <savid> nsgn, *serial* console. this assumes no networking.
[20:12] <Bushmills> terminal emulator on android, and usb-serial adapter
[20:13] <nsgn> Bushmills, let me ask this. i'm not as electrically inclined as i am with programming. is there a way to passively monitor the power going to that LED with a pin on the pi?
[20:13] <Bushmills> usually you can even install linux, alongside with android - running a linux kernel already - and have the linux environment available at the same time
[20:13] <nerdboy> savid: tablet via wireless?
[20:14] <savid> Bushmills, simple as that? I guess I wasn't sure if android could take serial input. But I suppose it is just USB in the end.
[20:14] <gordonDrogon> nsgn, how about this - fibre optic cable passing the light to a photo diode - arrange it so that all you're reading is an on/off - ie. keep it all as dark as posible
[20:14] <Bushmills> nsgn: if "passive monitoring" excludes actively reading from light detection devices, then i'd say no
[20:15] <Bushmills> the even your eyes wouldn't be a passive monitor
[20:15] <nsgn> ssh :D
[20:15] <nsgn> not going there
[20:15] <nsgn> haha
[20:15] <nsgn> gordonDrogon, ha. now that's an intuitive approach
[20:15] <nerdboy> if you mean usb(serial) cable, that should work if you have the right physical connection
[20:15] <nsgn> because i could very discreetly place a fiber optic cable up against the LED. maybe even from behind the dash if it is a rounded LED
[20:16] <nerdboy> i have one tablet with a full size usb host connector
[20:16] <nsgn> and then place the actual photoresistor somewhere further away
[20:16] <nerdboy> i would probably try connectbot first...
[20:16] <nsgn> i've never used a strand of fiber optics on its own l ike that. will it really transmit enough light for the photoresistor to appreciate it?
[20:17] <nsgn> i mean just with a random LED trying to tap it from the side. obviously if you shine a LED/laser right down it it would work fine
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[20:18] <savid> Bushmills, any idea what voltage levels the android USB would transmit to the rPI? I'm assuming I'd need a level shifter...
[20:19] <Bushmills> as tablets usually run on single lithium cell, i reckon it's somehing around 3 ... 3.3 volts
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[20:20] <Bushmills> but measuring beats reckoning
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[20:20] <Bushmills> probably depends on your usb-serial adapter as well
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[20:21] <nsgn> how difficult is it to use the raspi to measure the voltage going to that LED? does it pose an issue that I probably can't ground back to where the LED is grounded?
[20:21] <SpeedEvil> Bushmills: Err - no.
[20:21] <Bushmills> it may boost signal line voltages
[20:21] <SpeedEvil> USB serial is not serial.
[20:21] <SpeedEvil> It's USB
[20:21] <nerdboy> the ttl serial/usb cable should work fine
[20:21] <SpeedEvil> It runs an emulated serial protocol over USB
[20:21] <SpeedEvil> Unless I've got the context wrong
[20:21] * SpeedEvil should read more backscroll
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[20:23] <Bushmills> it's technically not an impossibility to provide, say, v24 signal level on the outputs of a converter connecting to usb. though wheather any usb-serial adapter device actually does this is a different matter
[20:23] <Bushmills> but my point is merely "it may depend on the adapter"
[20:26] <Bushmills> though i think that, say, max232 drivers are rather uncommon in cheap usb-serial adapters
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[20:27] <Bushmills> well, it's not my raspberry which would smoke
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[20:29] <savid> I wonder if this would work? http://www.ebay.com/itm/USB-serial-TTL-console-debug-cable-Raspberry-Pi-/190852015337
[20:31] <mgottschlag2> that, or two resistors and two zener diodes for <1€ at your local electronics shop
[20:31] <mgottschlag2> (and a pi)
[20:31] <savid> mgottschlag2, ??
[20:32] <mgottschlag2> as a cheap level converter
[20:32] <savid> doesn't USB to serial involve special processing?
[20:32] <mgottschlag2> nothing which the uart of the pi doesn't support
[20:32] <mgottschlag2> ah, wait
[20:32] <mgottschlag2> you want to read output from the pi, then of course you need a second uart on the other side
[20:33] <savid> mgottschlag2, my goal is to view the pi serial console on my android tablet.
[20:33] <mgottschlag2> yeah, and your tablet's uart is not accessible
[20:33] <mgottschlag2> so you need something like that
[20:33] <mgottschlag2> *like that link
[20:34] <savid> gotcha
[20:34] <mgottschlag2> (I thought you wanted to use your pi's uart to debug your android device, or whatever)
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[20:55] <Bozza> I installed openelec from an .img in the pi
[20:56] <Bozza> But it isn't making full use of the 8gb. Anyway around it?
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[20:56] <nerdboy> use gparted to expand the partition...
[20:56] <nerdboy> it will resize the fs too
[20:57] <Bozza> Can I do it on the pi itself?
[20:57] <nerdboy> not so easy while it's mounted
[20:58] <nerdboy> ext* doesn't support online resize
[20:58] <Bozza> Ahh I have Linux mint on a USB stick
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[20:58] <Bozza> Will do it from that . Only got windows currently installed :(
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[20:59] <Bozza> thanks for the advice nerdboy :)
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[21:03] <nerdboy> i need to finish up debian on chromebook so i can get back to lirc on the pi...
[21:03] <Encrypt> Datalink, Kinect is watching you! :p
[21:03] <Datalink> Encrypt, no, it's not, I haven't gotten the driver to work yet
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[21:12] * Datalink isn't sure what he's missing with Freenect
[21:16] <Datalink> http://illogicallabs.com/paste/00000001.html
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[21:16] <Datalink> I have no idea why this fails but it gives me the same failure in normal user and sudo
[21:18] <ShorTie> good a video driver for X ??
[21:19] <yggdrasil> ok im back
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[21:28] <yggdrasil> datalink
[21:29] <yggdrasil> ahh nevermind
[21:29] <Datalink> hm?
[21:30] <yggdrasil> in my code, i declared all those variable but im not even using them
[21:30] <yggdrasil> haha
[21:30] <yggdrasil> ok brb
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[21:42] <yggdrasil> cool
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[22:45] <pirtin> What is the kernel release of the current wheezy please ?
[22:46] <pirtin> Anybody ?
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[22:47] <jdpond> pirtin: Firing the Pi up now, give me a couple of seconds.
[22:47] <pirtin> If somebody with the last wheezy could make a 'uname -r' and tell me what it returns.
[22:47] <pirtin> jdpond: how, thonks
[22:47] <pirtin> *thanks
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[22:50] <jdpond> pirtin: The wheezy engine is Debian 7.1. Looking now to see what it is on RaspberryPi
[22:51] <nerdboy> it's pretty much the same pi kernel, if current it should be 3.6.11+
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[22:52] <jdpond> Linux JDPLRRaspberryPi 3.6.11+
[22:52] <pirtin> OK, I think I got what I want as mine is 3.2.27+
[22:52] <chithead> I think they just take whatever is current at https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux
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[22:52] <nerdboy> yup
[22:54] <pirtin> I made an update of an old version, but it seems a simple update/upgrade is not enought...
[22:55] <nerdboy> dist_upgrade maybe?
[22:55] <pirtin> nerdboy: Do you think it could upgrade the kernel too ?
[22:55] <nerdboy> my original wheezy upgraded to 3.6.11
[22:56] <jdpond> I remember that I had trouble upgrading mine to current. Used this: http://elinux.org/RPi_Kernel_Compilation
[22:57] <nerdboy> built at least one gentoo kernel on my first pi
[22:57] <nerdboy> took a looong time...
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[22:57] * ShorTie snickers
[22:57] <pirtin> It seems that the dist-upgrade is doing something more.
[22:58] <wharfrat> ls
[22:58] <jdpond> Yeah, it took as long as doing an automatic patch upgrade of .NET framework :)
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[23:04] <pirtin> It didn't do it :(. I supose i'll have to remade my conf from scratch...
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[23:06] <ShorTie> 3.2.x to 3.6.x is a BIG update
[23:06] <ShorTie> most likely better just to start over from scratch
[23:07] <pirtin> In fact I forgot to reboot. Now everything is OK :) 3.6.11+ !
[23:07] <pirtin> Thanks all
[23:08] <Chetic> I'm having trouble with my Pis restarting at seemingly random times. Where do I begin to look to see when it happened and what happened?
[23:08] <thesheff17> gordonDrogon you around?
[23:09] <pirtin> ShadowJK: it WAS a big update actually... about 1 hour of dowloads and configuring...
[23:09] <pirtin> Was for ShorTie
[23:10] <ShorTie> i'd start at the wall socket and work back to rPi Chetic
[23:13] <Chetic> it's not that, ShorTie
[23:13] <Chetic> a couple of times it has happened with the tv on
[23:13] <Chetic> I saw it in the corner of my eye
[23:13] <Chetic> really peculiar
[23:13] <Chetic> that's just with one but I am having serious trouble trusting my pis
[23:14] <Chetic> different pis with different sd cards and different power supplies
[23:14] <Chetic> I always end up with a corrupt filesystem
[23:14] <Chetic> using raspbian
[23:14] <Chetic> and since I'm planning a high-altitude balloon project I do NOT want that
[23:15] <pksato> psu issues.
[23:15] <Chetic> could it be the electrical grid?
[23:16] <pksato> yes
[23:16] <ShorTie> you mean like a brown out ??
[23:16] <ShorTie> ya
[23:16] <Chetic> how sensitive is the pi to that? are there numbers, and can I make measurements?
[23:16] <Chetic> I could run it 24/7 for a while on the battery pack while charging the batteries and see if it happens then
[23:17] <pksato> add extra capacitor on 5V line, replace C6.
[23:18] <pksato> like 1000uFx6.3V
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[23:23] <Chetic> hmm I'll look into it pksato
[23:24] <ShorTie> just add 1
[23:25] <ShorTie> heck, you could just stick it across the gpio header pins as a quick test
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[23:28] <pksato> http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/9944/rpihookedcap.jpg
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[23:34] <gordonDrogon> thesheff17, hello?
[23:36] <thesheff17> gordonDrogon, I figured it out...was having issues removing char returns at the end of a file I was reading from
[23:36] <thesheff17> my C is just really rusty :)
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[23:43] <gordonDrogon> thesheff17, ok :)
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