#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-07-02

Timestamps are in GMT/BST.

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[0:06] <mumbles> i now have a appahce server on my pi
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[0:48] <KiltedPi^> urgh
[0:49] <KiltedPi^> I've installed the wrong version of eclipse i think
[0:49] <KiltedPi^> Is 'Kepler' java only?
[0:49] <mgottschlag> you need eclipse cdt, that should be available for all eclipse versions
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[0:50] <mgottschlag> (C development toolkit
[0:50] <mgottschlag> )
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[0:50] <KiltedPi^> urgh!
[0:50] <mgottschlag> anyways, gn8
[0:50] <KiltedPi^> wrong one haha
[0:50] <KiltedPi^> nite!
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[0:52] <MachinaeWolf> How do you tell how much an power an adapter is using?
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[0:58] <SpeedEvil> MachinaeWolf: Plug it into a power meter.
[0:58] <SpeedEvil> What's the actual question?
[0:58] <MachinaeWolf> lol
[0:58] <MachinaeWolf> I'm wondering if that usb to ps2 adapter is sucking up too much power
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[0:59] <SpeedEvil> Ah.
[0:59] <SpeedEvil> The easy way is to make up a USB cable, with the red wire cut, and plug in a multimeter to the two ends of the red wire
[1:00] <MachinaeWolf> well I don't have that
[1:01] <SpeedEvil> A cheap multimeter would generally be a good investment if wondering about power problems. £5 or so
[1:01] <mumbles> i know i need to upgrade my multimeter
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[1:29] <KiltedPi^> hey gais
[1:29] <KiltedPi^> I started up my Eclipse IDE
[1:30] <KiltedPi^> But I can't create a new C++ project.
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[1:30] <KiltedPi^> All I did was install it.
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[1:35] <KiltedPi^> I can't figure it out. urgh
[1:42] <steve_rox> the fun of a rpi
[1:45] <Bushmills> i understand that vim or similar is rather popular with C and C++ coding folks
[1:45] <Bushmills> eclipse is as i understand more loved by java folks
[1:45] <Bushmills> those who hate vim are more likely to use emacs
[1:46] <Bushmills> but both seem to hate eclipse
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[1:52] * Katty patters in
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[1:56] <Katty> so quiet tonight. who died? :<
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[1:57] <ricksl> Aren't we all dying, just very slowly.
[1:58] * Katty pats ricksl
[1:58] <Katty> this is true.
[1:58] <Bushmills> life is one of the deadliest?
[1:59] <Katty> i hear life is the leading cause of death
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[2:00] <ricksl> you see that guy build a 300 node raspberry pi cluser
[2:00] <Bushmills> i thought it was failure to go on living
[2:00] <ricksl> cluster*
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[3:06] <i-make-robots> I power cycled my pi and now the "link" light doesn't turn on and i can't find it on the network with nmap. is it fried?
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[3:14] <SirSkidmore> any assembly wizards here?
[3:14] <SirSkidmore> I'm just trying to write a small kernel.img a la Baking Pi
[3:15] <SirSkidmore> Wait...
[3:15] <SirSkidmore> I think I got it
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[3:22] <SirSkidmore> No, no I didn't
[3:22] <SirSkidmore> the first GPIO pin I can interact with from a breadboard is pin 17 right?
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[3:25] <SirSkidmore> I can't get an LED attached to pin 17 to turn on from Assembly, could someone look at this? https://gist.github.com/SirSkidmore/76470913019f1be87850
[3:29] <MachinaeWolf> Anybody know something about this? http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?uid=49566&f=51&t=48763&start=0
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[4:13] <nerdboy> first PiMP3 field/road test was successful
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[4:14] <nerdboy> although actually inserting the card is a test prerequisite...
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[4:26] <Datalink> grr, I have to fix an issue with /var/lib/dpkg/status >.<
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[4:41] <Datalink> I'm half tempted to just write a scrape parser and run status through that
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[4:43] <Bozza> If I compile the Linux kernel what bootloader will I want to use for pi?
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[4:52] <Datalink> Bozza, Pi has it's own bootloading mechanism, it doesn't use Lilo or Grub, it uses the GPU through the config.txt file a few binary blobs and command.txt
[4:52] <Datalink> correction, cmdline.txt
[4:53] <Bozza> Cool. So if I just put the image of the kernel I create on the sd card and modify the txts it should boots.
[4:53] <Bozza> ?*
[4:53] <Datalink> you'd move the kernel's z compressed file to kernel.img
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[4:54] <Datalink> it's been months since I compiled my last kernel so I'm a tad rusty, forgive me
[4:56] <Bozza> No worries. I have never compiled a kernel. So any info is good info!
[4:56] <Bozza> Thanks!
[4:58] <Datalink> elinux has a very good kernel compiling tutorial
[4:58] <Datalink> which reminds me, I need to recompile the RPi kernel for the studio's RPis soon
[4:59] <Bozza> Yes I am on there right now
[4:59] <Bozza> Studios RPis?
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[5:04] <Datalink> I work for a public access station (PEG) and I'm working on a Pi to use as our messageboard to replace a 15 year old solution running NT4
[5:04] <Datalink> or some embedded messageboard
[5:05] <Datalink> er, text generator board
[5:05] <Datalink> so LibreOffice autostarting basically
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[5:07] <Datalink> meanwhile my personal Pi's having problems :/
[5:07] <Datalink> http://illogicallabs.com/paste/00000002.html
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[5:26] <Bozza> Datalink: wow looks awesome
[5:26] <Bozza> Re text generator board
[5:27] <Datalink> Bozza, hm, what does? oh yeah, so far I haven't gotten gamma correct for the Pi's xserver yet, and I have to include support for a theme engine when I recompile the kernel
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[5:28] <Bozza> Should use the word "sounds awesome" to be more precise ;)
[5:28] <Bozza> x requires gamma corrects.
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[5:28] <Bozza> ?*
[5:29] <Bozza> It is really a pain how compiling takes a few hours
[5:30] <Bozza> I wonder how long it will take to compile on a laptop
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[5:32] <Datalink> Bozza, the Xorg server on this machine's showing the test pattern way out of spec for NTSC color bars (I set it as a background in case the program crashed)
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[5:33] <Bozza> How long did it take to compile?
[5:33] <Datalink> in fact I haven't loaded the slideshow yet, so I've been greeted by the error and black calibration that looks to be in the 30% range or higher
[5:33] <Datalink> Bozza, uh, I typically left my Pi for a day, I think it's something like 12 hours, I haven't actually compiled on a laptop or desktop but the time should be around half depending on device specs
[5:34] <Bozza> That must be the downside of compiling . When you learn you need something else you need to recompile
[5:35] <Bozza> But 12h is fine IMHO, if everything works fine
[5:36] <Datalink> that and if the kernel updates from distro it'll blow away the custom unless you're careful
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[5:37] <Bozza> Good point . That is something to look out for
[5:37] <Bozza> Trying to make a super light distro
[5:38] <Datalink> yeah, you'll wanna have a cross-compile setup for that then, I'd suggest ratpoison for a window manager, it's basically the X11 equivelent of screen
[5:38] <Datalink> I'm using it on this display project, and so far it's been perfect
[5:39] <Bozza> Ahh cool . I will give that a go
[5:40] <Bozza> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FLWM
[5:40] <Bozza> This also doesn't look bad
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[5:44] <Datalink> could be a good secondary option, test how well the Pi likes it before committing to it though
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[6:08] <setkeh> Hey guys im having an issue with my Pi i just replace a bad sdcard and thats all fine the rpi boots fine but 1 my keyboard plugged into powered USBhub (Hub is working it detects the FPGA's on the same hub) doesent get detected 2. when i start a program via SSH the ssh session hangs and i get no rout to host untill i power cycle the pi any idea's ??
[6:10] <Xark> setkeh: I assume if the keyboard/network is plugged in to the RPi directly it works? Also does the keyboard start working when (e.g.) the hub is removed and reinserted (with RPi booted)?
[6:10] * Xark is also curious what FPGAs.... :)
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[6:11] <setkeh> Xark: Black Arrorw Lancelots :D
[6:11] <Xark> setkeh: It is possible newer firmware has altered the USB stack.
[6:11] <setkeh> i have never tried to update the firmwar ^_^
[6:12] <Xark> setkeh: Ahh bitcoin.
[6:12] <setkeh> Xark: yeah :D
[6:12] <setkeh> i havent modified anythiong because it was working grat :D
[6:12] <bananasdoom> Anyone know where I can get a debian sever iso for the Rpi
[6:12] <Xark> setkeh: So your new SD card is an exact copy of your old one (yet the behavior changes)?
[6:12] <setkeh> nah its a diferent brand
[6:13] <setkeh> the old one was a DSE class 4 new one is a sandisk class 4
[6:13] <Xark> setkeh: Seems an odd wait to fail. I assume no other odd messages at boot? Perhaps do a non-quick format and re-image the SD card?
[6:13] <Xark> odd way*
[6:14] <setkeh> Xark: i forgot to mention the sdcard is only there to boot the pi i acually have / on a laptop hardrive plugged into that same hub :D
[6:15] <Xark> setkeh: Probably a good call. So the SD card is mostly a "boot ROM".
[6:15] <setkeh> all i have done on th sdcard really is modified cmdline.txt and config.txt
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[6:16] <Xark> setkeh: Well, not clear why things would have changed from your previously working setup. Perhaps keyboard power was marginal before?
[6:16] <setkeh> sec ill check my voltage here
[6:16] <Xark> setkeh: Have you tried booting without keyboard and seeing if the network works? (perhaps ssh in?)
[6:17] <setkeh> 5.01V across the tp's
[6:17] <Xark> setkeh: Also you might try some other keyboards. Apparently there is a wide range of voltages used (I have one that works great with only 3.3v...).
[6:18] <setkeh> and yeah i have started a miner in ssh but it starts runs starts to mine then locks up and then wont accept ssh connections any more XD
[6:18] <Xark> setkeh: Try the no keyboard test. If the network still fails, then hard to blame the keyboard. :)
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[6:20] <setkeh> hmm
[6:21] <setkeh> tried hard plugging the keyboard dongle no go
[6:21] <setkeh> but it works on my iconia tab np :P
[6:21] <setkeh> BUT
[6:21] <setkeh> nvm
[6:21] <setkeh> ssh just fucked up again XD
[6:22] <setkeh> i dont understand why it just stops
[6:22] <Xark> setkeh: So I guess that indicates a USB problem of some sort...
[6:22] <setkeh> then wont accept connections anymore
[6:22] <Xark> setkeh: Sounds like for whatever reason USB bus is failing (and all devices quit working - or at least keyboard/network).
[6:23] <Xark> setkeh: Can you try with network directly in RPi (if it is in hub)?
[6:23] <setkeh> Xark: i did notice that when i plug both the powered hubs in the rpi boots and i dont know if its ment to do that XD
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[6:23] <Xark> setkeh: No, that indicates a power issue. How are you powering RPi? From hub?
[6:24] <setkeh> no i have a dedicated 5v 2A Power supply with micro usb
[6:24] <setkeh> though it does power on when i plug in both hubs
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[6:26] <Xark> setkeh: That sounds unusual. Do you "have faith" in these powered hubs (or are they "cheapies")?
[6:27] <setkeh> there cheepies but they were working fine for quite a while till the sdcard died on the pi about a weekago and i plugged them into my iconia after that and they seemed fine
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[6:33] <setkeh> ill -Syu and see if the new firmware helps :D
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[6:37] <Xark> setkeh: OK.
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[6:38] <rewired> would different SDcards have different power draws? (aka i have a 16 that works, and a 32 that no longer does, only difference)
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[6:42] <rewired> i have 3 pies, 3 cards, any combination with the 32gb cards is chain rebooting, any of them with the 16gb fire up np
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[6:44] <nerdboy> i have mostly 32s with a couple of wonky ones
[6:45] <setkeh> sdcards are just unreliabe in general XD
[6:45] <rewired> what has me baffled is one of the two 32s was working..2 days ago
[6:45] <nerdboy> the non-wonky ones work fine in two different pis
[6:45] <nerdboy> what are your mount options?
[6:46] <nerdboy> i use noatime and ram swap
[6:46] <rewired> running noobs atm, and it will just chain reboot on rbmc, raspberrian, etc.
[6:47] <nerdboy> seems to minimize disk writes to a reasonable level, albeit with potentially unsynced cache if you write to a file and pull the power too quick
[6:50] <rewired> dmesg flies too fast for me to get a real good idea of what the last messages are..i can probably guess from the one that boots.
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[7:04] <ShorTie> have you l00k in /var/log/dmesg ??
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[7:08] <rewired> chain reboots make that difficult.
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[7:10] <Datalink> rewired, I have a problem that an image I formatted for an older pi doesn't work in newer ones
[7:11] <Datalink> Spindrift recently started throwing errors for apt-get so I may end up reimaging it if I can't figure it out http://illogicallabs.com/paste/00000002.html if anyone knows how to fix apt-get parsing issues
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[7:23] <ShorTie> have you tried apt-get update again ??
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[7:53] <Datalink> ShorTie, yeah, still fails after that
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[7:56] <Datalink> W: GPG error: http://raspberrypi.collabora.com wheezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY ED4BF9140C50B1C5
[7:56] <Datalink> I think I need to remove this repo or something...
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[8:01] <setkeh> Xark: hmm well i got no USB descriptor errors on boot this time got them miner running now to see if its propperly fixed :P
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[8:01] <Datalink> ShorTie, still breaks :/
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[8:02] <Xark> setkeh: Sounds like some kind of progress... :)
[8:04] <setkeh> Xark: Hey Hey Keyboard is working now too :P
[8:04] <setkeh> and i havent had a hangup yet :D
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[8:04] <Xark> setkeh: Great. Happy mining! :)
[8:05] <setkeh> :( using same config.txt as before but resolution got shit XD
[8:05] <setkeh> Xark: thanks for the help buddy :D
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[8:11] <Alina-malina> Hello all! I have a 2TB external USB 3.0 harddrive, will raspberry pi "see" that harddrive if i connect it?
[8:13] <Xark> Alina-malina: In theory, but I have had issues with some USB 3.0 drives.
[8:13] <setkeh> Alina-malina: aslong as that hard drive has an external power supply sure
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[8:13] <Xark> Alina-malina: I believe the situation is improved with more recent firmware (I haven't tried recently).
[8:13] <Alina-malina> yes it does, i ordered my raspberypi, it have not arrived yet, but i have the harddrive, so i want to use it to watch family videos from that hardrive on the screen
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[8:14] <setkeh> Xark: oh BTW http://screenshots.setkeh.com/fpga/ :D
[8:14] <Alina-malina> the harddrive has an external power suply
[8:14] <Alina-malina> wow! is that a mining rig?
[8:15] <Xark> setkeh: Very impressive! You just need some RGB LEDs to compete with the Raspberry Pi cluster. :) http://hackaday.com/2013/05/21/33-node-beowulf-cluster-built-with-raspberry-pi/
[8:16] <Alina-malina> setkeh, what do you do with that thing?
[8:17] <setkeh> Alina-malina: bitcoin mining
[8:17] <Alina-malina> super!
[8:17] <Alina-malina> how much do you mine a day? are you in pool or on your own?
[8:17] <Xark> setkeh: Are the FPGA boards custom? Do you know what type of FPGA?
[8:18] <setkeh> yeah there dual spartan 6's
[8:18] <Xark> setkeh: Nice.
[8:18] <setkeh> yeah im gonna build a perspex box for the lot i have another 8 fpga's comming
[8:19] <setkeh> then put leds in for sexyfyimng :P
[8:19] <Xark> setkeh: Hehe :)
[8:19] <Xark> setkeh: You of course mean "diagnostic purposes". :)
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[8:20] <Alina-malina> setkeh, is it more effective to "mining" with raspberrypi rather then traditional videocard?
[8:20] <setkeh> oh yrs ofc :P
[8:20] <setkeh> yes*
[8:20] <Datalink> about as effective as using a wet noodle to chop down an oak
[8:21] <Alina-malina> what brand is your USB hub? it is looks so cool
[8:21] <Datalink> compared to ASIC or GPU options
[8:21] <setkeh> Alina-malina: Grapgics cards arnt worth mining with
[8:21] <Xark> Alina-malina: If I am not mistaken, setkeh is just using the RPi to "tend the farm".
[8:21] <setkeh> yeah
[8:21] <Datalink> hm, why can't I get plymouth to generate an initramfas file?
[8:21] <Alina-malina> i am sorry i dont understand
[8:21] <setkeh> the rpi runs the miner for the fpga's it doesent actually hash anything
[8:23] <setkeh> that stack of board in the pics are what do the mining
[8:23] * Xark squints...is that a Warthog model? :)
[8:23] <setkeh> rpi cant even do 1 hash /s iirc
[8:23] <setkeh> yeah it is :P
[8:24] <setkeh> rc warthog came with mu reach preorder
[8:24] <Datalink> I need to get a powered hub for my Pi apparently :/
[8:24] <Xark> setkeh: Ahh. Nice.
[8:25] <setkeh> yay i can use my iconia :P
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[8:27] <setkeh> Rpi = Badass mining Director :P
[8:28] <Alina-malina> setkeh, have you used any thermopaste when you setup the cooler on the pi?
[8:28] <setkeh> i do wish that it dident have the sd controller
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[8:28] <setkeh> Alina-malina: my Rpi doesent have a cooler :D
[8:28] <setkeh> or could atleast boot from USB
[8:29] <Alina-malina> but the link you have provided?
[8:30] <setkeh> Alina-malina: the stack of board in the top rightish ??
[8:30] <Alina-malina> http://screenshots.setkeh.com/fpga/IMG_20130603_130010.jpg
[8:30] <setkeh> Xark: have you tried any of thoes so called sd to sata converters
[8:30] <Xark> setkeh: No. However, USB <-> SATA was quite disappointing.
[8:31] <setkeh> Alina-malina: yeah my Rpi is not in that picture :D thoes are the FPGA's
[8:31] <Alina-malina> oh ok
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[8:31] <Alina-malina> so you used thermopaste no FPGA when setting up coller vents?
[8:32] <setkeh> Xark: yeah i was dissapointed too :P hopefully the Sata > SD adapter works wee then i can free up another USB hole XD
[8:32] <setkeh> Alina-malina: the FPGA's come like that but i assume they have thermal paste would seem logical :P
[8:33] <Alina-malina> ok
[8:33] <setkeh> like i say im in the process of building the whole lot a box
[8:33] <Alina-malina> for a moment i mix it with raspberypi:)
[8:33] <setkeh> so its not so messy and easyer to temperature controll
[8:34] <setkeh> AFAIK the rpi souldent need a heatsink mine dident get hot during summer and it rins quite a bit of crap
[8:35] <setkeh> and summer here we had 8 Days in a row over 40c (115F IIRC)
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[9:29] <FR^2> moinmoin
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[10:17] <pesticide> happy birthday when you getup, also i might plan a buf weekend if you are available. i want to meet with schoot counclers
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[10:22] <JakeSays> setkeh: hey what are you using the fpga's for?
[10:24] <[deXter]> For mining anti-coins.
[10:24] <JakeSays> what the heck is an anto-coin?
[10:24] <JakeSays> *anti
[10:24] <[deXter]> It's the opposite of a bit coin
[10:24] <[deXter]> Mine enough anti-coins... and combine with bit-coins .. then you get a big BOOM
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[10:30] <KBme> hi
[10:31] <KBme> could anyone help me? we're working on a project with a bunch of reaspberry pi
[10:32] <KBme> we purchased the license key for one of them, but we didn't store the serai to which it was attributed
[10:32] <KBme> is it possible to somehow figure out what serial the license is for?
[10:34] <shiftplusone> KBme, This is about codecs, right?
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[10:35] <linuxstb> KBme: Probably not, but you can store multiple keys in the same config file - just separate them with commas. You can then share the same config on all your Pis (I'm not sure about the limit though)
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[10:37] <bts__> hello, can I use typical gpio pins as pwm output? I mean programming it software-way
[10:37] <linuxstb> KBme: Sorry, I misread. My order confirmation email listed the serial number.
[10:37] <shiftplusone> bts__, aye
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[10:37] <shiftplusone> bts__, wiringpi has that feature afaik
[10:38] <bts__> ok, that's good, thx
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[10:51] <zipy> does someone have a up to date tutorial how to install xbmc on wheezy? i got it to work but it wont play mkv...
[10:52] <zipy> http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianXBMC <-- i used the compiled xbmc
[10:53] <FR^2> why not just use openelec? ^^
[10:53] <linuxstb> zipy: Does it play anything?
[10:53] <zipy> it plays avi
[10:54] <gordonDrogon> morning.
[10:54] <zipy> it also shows the timeline of mkvs but i have no video and sound
[10:54] <zipy> guess i have to install codecs?
[10:54] <linuxstb> Have you played that mkv on your Pi before?
[10:55] <linuxstb> Or do you know what codecs it uses?
[10:55] <zipy> well it works if i use raspbnc out of the box
[10:55] <zipy> but never got it to work with raspbian + xbmc
[10:55] <FR^2> hey gordonDrogon
[10:55] <linuxstb> zipy: Hmm, I've no idea then. I assume omplayer plays it in Raspbian?
[10:56] <zipy> maybe i stick to raspbnc or openelec
[10:56] <zipy> which should i prefer if i want to add sabnzbd too
[10:57] <linuxstb> zipy: What did you set the GPU RAM to? That howto is very out of date in a lot of things.
[10:57] <zipy> hmm i didnt configure it just used the wheezy image from raspberrypi.org
[10:58] <linuxstb> You should try adding "gpu_ram=128"
[10:58] <linuxstb> (to your config.txt)
[10:59] <zipy> well im not sure if i really need raspbian tho, is it only for the desktop inviorment or are there any other benifits
[10:59] <zipy> dont really need a desktop enviroment i think
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[11:16] <lasers> zipy: It depends on what you're going for. If it's for XBMC and nothing else, then you want OpenELEC.
[11:17] <zipy> i need xbmc and sabnzbdplus and ssh-server :)
[11:17] <lasers> zipy: iirc sabnzdb (suite something) is in OpenELEC. ssh too. :o
[11:18] <lasers> zipy: http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php?title=Add-on:SABnzbd-Suite
[11:18] <lasers> zipy: (Not sure how it behave on RPi as I don't have one, but I do use OpenELEC. :)
[11:19] <zipy> i think i should give it a try
[11:19] <zipy> im currently trying out to get raspi-config on raspbnc ^^
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[11:23] <zipy> openelec seems to be the fastest tho
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[12:35] <Datalink> hm, what's a compact RTC for a RPi?
[12:35] <Datalink> looking for one that'll fit inside my case
[12:36] <zipy> cant i compile xbmc on my desktop pc for raspberry?
[12:37] <shiftplusone> zipy, you can if you know what you're doing or find a decent tutorial
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[12:37] <zipy> i would create a vm with raspbian and then compile it
[12:37] <zipy> make an image and dd to sdcard
[12:37] <shiftplusone> =/
[12:38] <zipy> do u think that works? :D
[12:38] <shiftplusone> Can't use a VM, but qemu will work.
[12:38] <shiftplusone> though I thought you wanted to cross-compile
[12:38] <zipy> the tutorial says it takes 12h on a raspberry
[12:39] <zipy> much time to spend especially if it fails -.-
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[12:39] <mgottschlag> trying to get cross compiling to work can easily take 4 hours as well, however four hours of active work ^^
[12:40] <zipy> damn
[12:40] <mgottschlag> s/4 hours/half a day/
[12:40] <mgottschlag> if you don't know what you are doing at least
[12:40] <zipy> i got an error :(
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[12:40] <zipy> http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianXBMC at step 10
[12:40] <zipy> cd ../../../../; ./bootstrap
[12:40] <zipy> ./bootstrap: 5: ./bootstrap: autoreconf: not found
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[12:42] <linuxstb> apt-get install autoconf (probably)
[12:43] <linuxstb> Probably also worth installing the build-essential package, if you haven't already
[12:44] <zipy> sudo apt-get install build-essential ?
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[12:45] <zipy> k its installed already
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[12:49] <zipy> hmm
[12:49] <zipy> there is no .configure file
[12:50] <shiftplusone> just configure
[12:50] <shiftplusone> ./configure
[12:50] <shiftplusone> not ./.configure
[12:50] <shiftplusone> (If I understood what you said)
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[12:51] <ShorTie> what is in ls ??
[12:51] <zipy> im at step 10 of http://www.raspbian.org/RaspbianXBMC
[12:51] <zipy> ~/xbmc-rbp $ ls
[12:51] <zipy> addons configure.in docs keymapping.txt LICENSE.GPL Makefile.include.in README tools XBMC-ATV2.xcodeproj xbmc-xrandr.c
[12:51] <zipy> bootstrap CONTRIBUTORS doxygen_resources language m4 media sounds userdata XBMC-IOS.xcodeproj
[12:51] <zipy> build-aux copying.txt gitrev.sh lib Makefile.in project system xbmc XBMC.xcodeproj
[12:52] <zipy> oh sry i wanted to paste that in 1 line
[12:52] <shiftplusone> looks like it's the autotools files
[12:52] <shiftplusone> I forget what you need to run to make autotools do it's thing to generate the rest of them
[12:53] <zipy> ??? -.-
[12:54] <shiftplusone> But I bet the instructions before that tell you exactly what you had to do and you skimmed over them, since I can see build-essentials and autoconf being installed in step 4, which you missed before.
[12:54] <shiftplusone> step 8 looks like that might be it
[12:54] <ShorTie> what does 'make' do ??
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[12:55] <zipy> build-essentials was in already
[12:55] <zipy> i didnt have to install them
[12:56] <zipy> shall i start from step 4 again?
[12:56] <shiftplusone> nuh, the steps may be outdated
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[12:57] <shiftplusone> try running autoconf
[13:01] <shiftplusone> Those steps are definitely outdated
[13:02] <zipy> http://pastebin.com/iZXGx8h7
[13:02] <zipy> crap
[13:02] <zipy> i tried the prebuild way too, but i had the problems with unplayable mkvs..
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[13:03] <shiftplusone> It has been a while since I messed around with autotools, but I think that's what you might need to learn about to continue.
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[13:04] <zipy> hmm
[13:04] <zipy> raspbmc works fine tho, but id like to have the raspi-config tool
[13:05] <zipy> i dont really need a desktop enviroment, just xbmc sabnzbd and maybe ssh-server
[13:05] <shiftplusone> What do you need from raspi-config?
[13:05] <Coffe> zip apt-get install raspi-tool
[13:05] <zipy> i tried that Coffe , it doesnt find the package
[13:06] <zipy> ehm for overclocking, editing time, fonts etc
[13:06] <shiftplusone> you can download the script directly https://github.com/asb/raspi-config/raw/master/raspi-config
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[13:07] <zipy> r there any other benefits except the desktop enviroment in raspbian?
[13:07] <shiftplusone> compared to what?
[13:07] <zipy> raspbmc
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[13:08] <Bushmills> yes. it is free :)
[13:08] <zipy> xD
[13:08] <zipy> both r
[13:08] <shiftplusone> I am not too familiar with raspbmc.
[13:08] <Bushmills> but he asked for benefits, not for differences :P
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[13:09] <zipy> well i dont need my raspberry as a desktop pc
[13:09] <zipy> but installing some services like sabnzbd etc would be nice
[13:09] <zipy> if raspbmc can handle that im ok with it
[13:10] <Bushmills> another may be that you can simply run a program by name, to make things do, no need to hack them together in some arcane machine language, entering opcode after opcode
[13:11] <shiftplusone> Isn't raspbmc built on top of raspbian and doesn't it use the same repos?
[13:12] <shiftplusone> (If so, then you can install whatever the hell you want on raspbmc)
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[13:13] <shiftplusone> zipy, you may want to jump on #raspbmc and poke samnazarko about these things.
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[13:14] <zipy> ill try now raspbmc + the script
[13:14] <zipy> flashing my sdcard now the 12th time already xD
[13:15] <zipy> poor sdcard hehe
[13:15] <sraue> shiftplusone unless you want install things which needs the default init system, kernel etc... which is built away from packagemanger in raspbmc... in this case you break raspbmc
[13:16] <shiftplusone> Seems fine for his purposes though.
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[13:16] <sraue> he wants raspi-config... and as i read using this breaks raspbmc too
[13:17] <zipy> argh
[13:17] <shiftplusone> lovely
[13:17] <zipy> k i guess i have to do it manually then
[13:17] <shiftplusone> sraue, well, unless you want to help him build xbmc for raspbian, he might be out of choices.
[13:18] <zipy> am i the only one who does that today? ^^
[13:18] <zipy> why r all the tutorials outdated
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[13:18] <shiftplusone> I prefer to use openelec for xbmc and a proper distro for everything else
[13:18] <sraue> afaik (i am not 100% sure) xbian is built more apt friendly... with using debs etc... and also based on raspbian
[13:18] <zipy> -.-
[13:18] <shiftplusone> ah, I forgot about xbian
[13:19] <zipy> maybe i should try out xbian now? :D
[13:19] <shiftplusone> nothing wrong with trying
[13:19] <zipy> i have a sdcard with openelec now too
[13:19] <sraue> "try"... i not have tested... so i can say how well it works for your needs
[13:19] <sraue> can/cant
[13:19] <zipy> i red theres a plugin for sabnzbd too
[13:20] <zipy> in xbmc
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[13:20] <zipy> openelec + other distro is fine too, but i want to run those simultaniously
[13:20] <sraue> zipy, yes there is a addon "SABnzbd-Suite" which you can install via OpenELECs own repo in XBMCs addon browser
[13:21] <shiftplusone> just to make sure... you're aware that raspi-config is trivial and you can easily live without it by doing the required changes manually?
[13:21] <zipy> yes
[13:21] <zipy> but i flashed so many times now
[13:21] <zipy> it speeds it up
[13:21] <shiftplusone> fair enough
[13:22] <zipy> k let me find out what this xbian can do for me xD
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[13:22] <shiftplusone> good luck
[13:22] <zipy> but i will have the same problems with installing xbmc dont i?
[13:23] <shiftplusone> nuh, xbian is an xbmc distro
[13:23] <zipy> nice
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[13:23] <zipy> ok thx alot ill give both a try openelec and xbian
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[13:23] <shiftplusone> If you don't figure it out in a few days, let me know and I'll give compiling and packaging a proper xbmc build a go.
[13:24] <zipy> nice, thx
[13:24] <shiftplusone> Hm, is there a pi config plugin for xbmc? Something to replace raspi-config?
[13:25] <zipy> i also found a complete image of raspbian + xbmc somewhere
[13:25] <zipy> i didnt download it cuz it was a torrent ^^
[13:25] <zipy> i found an overclock plugin
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[13:25] <zipy> for raspbmc
[13:28] <sraue> shiftplusone... no but usually its not needed within xbmc, ppl who want overclock should use a texteditor... afaik... doing this via the xbmc gui is to risky...
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[13:29] <shiftplusone> why risky?
[13:29] <ShorTie> the best overclock is a better processor
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[13:29] <zipy> lol
[13:30] <zipy> u sell some new cpus for raspberry? :D
[13:30] <shiftplusone> luckily the pi cpu is pin compatible with an i7
[13:30] <zipy> what about cudabox
[13:31] <zipy> i think u can install ubuntu too
[13:31] <sraue> broken filesystems, not booting sdcards...? why a car manufucturer dont add a switch or slider to "chiptune" the car ? overclocking should be for ppl only who knows what they doing...
[13:31] <zipy> hehe
[13:32] <zipy> some hd movies have to high bitrate for raspberry non clocked
[13:32] <sraue> also you use this one time after installation... adding much options to XBMC makes XBMC not easier...
[13:32] <shiftplusone> Ah, I thought you meant that xbmc itself is a factor somehow.
[13:32] <zipy> they stop all time
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[14:06] <zipy> shiftplusone, xbian looks really nice till now
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[14:13] <shiftplusone> yay
[14:15] <zipy> even better conifg "gui" then raspi-config :D
[14:17] <zipy> first run and everythings fine.. finally
[14:17] <zipy> lets see if i get sabnzbd to run :D
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[14:21] <zipy> shiftplusone, http://xbian.org/?s=sabnzbd&x=-1124&y=-52
[14:21] <zipy> wow
[14:21] <zipy> even sickbeard
[14:21] <zipy> i love this distro :D
[14:21] <zipy> thx so much
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[14:22] <shiftplusone> it was sraue that suggested it, not me.
[14:22] <zipy> spent so much time with fu raspbian and xbmc
[14:22] <zipy> thx sraue :D
[14:22] <zipy> i wanted to try xbian tho but it wasnt on my noobs :P
[14:22] <shiftplusone> he's gone >=/
[14:22] <zipy> i thought those were already a best off :P
[14:23] <zipy> even the picture is better then on raspbmc
[14:23] <zipy> and menu is faster
[14:23] <zipy> strange
[14:23] <shiftplusone> hm
[14:23] <zipy> i like :D
[14:23] <shiftplusone> I should give it a go some day I guess
[14:23] <bacobart> xbian beta1 is much faster than previous versions
[14:23] <zipy> i still have openelec on the other sd card
[14:23] <shiftplusone> any performance difference when compared to openelec?
[14:23] <bacobart> but there are still some issues with it
[14:24] <zipy> i can try
[14:24] <bacobart> there's supposed to be a beta 1 hotfix release real soon now;o
[14:24] <shiftplusone> nice
[14:24] <zipy> i will lock that sd card haha
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[14:26] <zipy> hmm not starting
[14:27] <bacobart> you're trying to boot to xbmc with readonly fs?
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[14:29] <zipy> haha
[14:29] <zipy> no it was a joke
[14:29] <zipy> cuz i flashed my sdcard 100x now
[14:29] <zipy> trying different distros and getting raspbian + xbmc going etc
[14:30] <zipy> now it seems like i found the perfect distro for my needs so i lock it xD
[14:30] <shiftplusone> Getting familiar with different distros and different ways of doing things isn't a bad thing.
[14:31] <zipy> i agree
[14:31] <zipy> but i spend the whole night with it
[14:31] <zipy> didnt sleep ^^
[14:31] <shiftplusone> sleep is for the weak
[14:31] <zipy> hehe
[14:31] <zipy> after openelec kalis turn :D
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[14:31] <zipy> didnt get it to work on my laptop with persistance on external hdd ^^
[14:32] <Squarepy> sleep is the enemy
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[14:33] <zipy> sraue, thx for xbian advice :D
[14:33] <zipy> love it
[14:33] <sraue> hehe, no problem, i would like it if you love OpenELEC too :-)
[14:33] <zipy> im trying it out right now D
[14:33] <sraue> ok :-)
[14:33] <zipy> preparing 2nd sd card
[14:34] <zipy> but can it compete with this: http://xbian.org/?s=sabnzbd&x=-1124&y=-52
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[14:35] <sraue> hehe the idea of the all in one package? http://www.openelec.tv/news/23-development/24-one-addon-to-rule-them-all-sabnzbd-suite look at the date :-)
[14:35] <zipy> do i need to format to fat32 for openelec?
[14:36] <sraue> transmissin is a seperate addon
[14:36] <zipy> cuz i did and then ran the shell skript
[14:36] <zipy> it didnt work last time didnt boot
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[14:36] <zipy> im doing now the same procedure again ^^
[14:37] <Matt> I run openelec on my pi
[14:37] <Matt> it does work quite well
[14:37] <zipy> yea i red 3 sec boottime only
[14:37] <Matt> now if only mythbox would play ball, it'd be golden
[14:38] <sraue> zipy, http://openelec.thestateofme.com/ there are diskimages, devels and stable releases
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[14:39] <zipy> oh thx
[14:39] <zipy> the official ones and the one above that folder are the same arent they?
[14:40] <zipy> same name same size guess yes
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[14:42] <sraue> yes "he" creates diskimages from our builds and regulary build devel builds from our sources
[14:42] <mezzobob> hi has someone experience with this http://pastebin.com/9g0qnUwq WiFi Dongle
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[14:43] <zipy> hehe i created a repeater only to connect via eth0
[14:44] <mezzobob> zipy: you got this thing to work
[14:45] <zipy> i dont have that dongle
[14:45] <zipy> but i could try with another one
[14:46] <zipy> k image done, lets try :D
[14:47] <mezzobob> I got the edimax ew-7811un working but i does not work well in AccesPoint mode
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[14:47] <zipy> i have to easy.boxes from vodafone
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[14:48] <zipy> 802 and 803
[14:48] <zipy> works good :D
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[14:48] <zipy> they even got the same ssids, all others told me it wont work
[14:48] <zipy> but it does
[14:50] <mezzobob> i tried this tut (http://www.jenssegers.be/blog/43/Realtek-RTL8188-based-access-point-on-Raspberry-Pi) for the AP Mode
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[14:56] <zipy> wait, u want to make an accesspoint out of ur raspberry?
[14:57] <zipy> sraue, shiftplusone , it feels like openelec has a nice picture aswell
[14:58] <zipy> but dont i have a shell on openelec?
[14:59] <zipy> i need to overclock and change my keyboard setup... i did that in /etc/default/keyboard on xbian raspbian etc
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[15:00] <zipy> seems like i can only connect via ssh
[15:01] <shiftplusone> zipy, openelec is not designed to be used that way.
[15:02] <zipy> but how can i change my keyboard then :(
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[15:02] <zipy> z and y and all the symbols are placed wrong -.-
[15:02] <sraue> zipy, inside OpenELEC settings addon?
[15:03] <sraue> system/openelec-settings... somwhere there you should be able to setup the keyboard layout...
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[15:03] <sraue> oh... for this you should install OpenELEC-3.1.1
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[15:04] <sraue> http://openelec.tv/get-openelec/download/viewcategory/10-raspberry-pi-builds <--- manually update like explained here: http://wiki.openelec.tv/index.php?title=Updating_OpenELEC
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[15:08] <zipy> hm cant find a solution
[15:08] <zipy> the settings are all done to my location, language etc
[15:08] <zipy> but my keyboard doesnt care xD
[15:09] <zipy> but it was the same in xbian etc, i had to change /etc/default/keyboard to get it work
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[15:10] <sraue> zipy, try with 3.1.1 i am sure you run 3.0.6 ?
[15:11] <zipy> yes
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[15:13] <zipy> hm ok i dont need to change that for testing only
[15:13] <shiftplusone> 'morning, Katty
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[15:13] <zipy> it works good too with openeleg
[15:14] <zipy> but since i dont have a shell, i dont need it
[15:14] <zipy> and im not sure if its faster in booting time
[15:14] <IT_Sean> ahoy Katty
[15:14] <zipy> it took quite long too
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[15:15] <zipy> ill time the booting time :D
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[15:16] <willybilly0101> raspberry pi uses micro sd or normal sd
[15:16] <willybilly0101> ?
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[15:16] <shiftplusone> normal
[15:16] <bacobart> normal sd
[15:17] <willybilly0101> so the big one
[15:17] <bacobart> yes
[15:17] * Katty waves to shiftplusone
[15:17] * Katty waves to IT_Sean
[15:17] <shiftplusone> you can get a little adapter that allows you to use microsd cards and also makes the profile a little neater, since you don't have the card sticking out asking for a broken sd holder.
[15:18] <shiftplusone> (something like this https://www.adafruit.com/products/966)
[15:18] <zipy> i like the adafruit case
[15:18] <BurtyB> you're doing it wrong my SD adaptor goes to a 0.1" header ;)
[15:18] <IT_Sean> You can also get an SD card that doesn' stick out... can't you? I was sure i saw one somewhere...
[15:18] <tig|> shiftplusone: be advised I am sure I read somewhere that those are slightly thicker than normal SD cards and might not fit in some cases
[15:19] <tig|> I am sure I read on the pimoroni site they do a special bottom layer for the pibow for people who want to use those
[15:19] <shiftplusone> hm
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[15:21] * Katty distributes bowls of cream of wheat
[15:21] * IT_Sean ponders his fuzzyness and wishes he had shaved this morning
[15:22] <zipy> bootin time elec: 50s xbian: 40s
[15:22] <Katty> IT_Sean: NO!
[15:22] <IT_Sean> o_O
[15:22] <Katty> IT_Sean: scruffy is good!
[15:22] <zipy> but dont know if one sd card is faster then the other
[15:22] * Katty hides all of IT_Sean's razors.
[15:22] <IT_Sean> hey!
[15:22] * MidnightCommando waves
[15:22] <IT_Sean> Get out of my apartment!!!
[15:22] <Katty> no!
[15:22] <zipy> picture of both is the same i think
[15:22] * Katty waves to MidnighToker
[15:22] <MidnightCommando> so I have managed to make my sdcard poop several bricks
[15:22] * IT_Sean waves back in MidnightCommando's general direction
[15:22] <zipy> but better then raspbmc
[15:23] <zipy> menu both fast too
[15:23] <MidnightCommando> and completely trash an ext4 filesystem. as in, harder than I've ever seen an extfs go down.
[15:23] <zipy> i stick too xbian
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[15:23] <MidnightCommando> time to reflash, and this time, not overclock the RasPi. I must have gotten unlucky in terms of tolerance on the components.
[15:24] * MidnighToker waves back at Katty and wonders if it was MidnightCommando she was after l)
[15:24] <MidnighToker> ;)
[15:24] <tig|> I am spouting old darkages stuff now or isn't it a bad idea to put a journaling filesystem on flash memory or have they sorted the wear levelling issues?
[15:24] <IT_Sean> Katty: I assure you, my face is scruffy enough without the Amish looking sideburns of death :|
[15:24] <mpuppetier> I guys, i have an power adoptor Output: 5V 1500mA is it ok for raspberry?
[15:24] <zipy> wow and the all in one package of xbian was published on my birthday :D
[15:24] <zipy> yes it is
[15:24] <IT_Sean> mpuppetier: that'll do nicely
[15:25] <mpuppetier> Thank you
[15:25] <zipy> 1200mA is common
[15:25] <IT_Sean> no prob
[15:25] <zipy> so there will be no probs with urs
[15:25] <bacobart> xbian is using BTRFS, which is supposed to be more fault tolerant on flash storage
[15:25] <zipy> some have 1000mA
[15:26] <mpuppetier> I was worry about 1500 mA that is bigger than common 1200mA... sorry for my bad english
[15:27] <mpuppetier> I go to power On my new raspberry :-) See ya guys
[15:27] <Katty> MidnighToker: welllllllllllll. maybe.
[15:27] <MidnighToker> ;)
[15:27] <Katty> MidnighToker: but i'm no snob! so hi to you too!!!
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[15:28] * Katty waves to MidnightCommando
[15:28] <MidnighToker> tee hee :)
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[15:29] <arcanescu> how do i reset a pi without typing poweroff or reboot through the prompt.... :/ ?
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[15:29] <arcanescu> if i keep conking the power the sd card gets corrupted - at time i.e
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[15:30] <flufmnstr> the reboot command is the proper way to reboot a linux system
[15:31] <zipy> not pull out the microusb?
[15:31] <arcanescu> i know it is... suppose i have a program running which starts on boot... i dont want to interface to the pi or similar
[15:31] <zipy> arcanescu, reset what
[15:31] <arcanescu> the system hanged... need to reboot the pi ....
[15:31] <zipy> all ur settings?
[15:32] <flufmnstr> oh hang resets
[15:32] <flufmnstr> i heard of a kernal module that checks for hangs, but i dont know if they'd work on a hung pi
[15:32] <arcanescu> just like you do with a typical peripheral.... skybox/dvdplayers or w.e doesnt work pull power put it back in again....or press the reset switch
[15:32] <tig|> arcanescu: look up REISUB, if it has locked up try that first
[15:32] <zipy> if it doesnt react u cant do anything else then pull off the power
[15:32] <zipy> arcanescu, did u overclock to 1ghz?
[15:33] <arcanescu> no 900 Mhz
[15:33] <zipy> and u r using sdcard only?
[15:33] <flufmnstr> hangcheck it seems to be called
[15:34] <arcanescu> im saying is this... i have a program that automatically runs on boot... for some reason if I want to reset it so it goes to "factory" default....
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[15:34] <tig|> arcanescu: hold down Alt and SysReq then type REISUB leaving about 3 to 5 seconds between each key press then release Alt+SysReq
[15:34] <zipy> u can try to use a usbstick since it crashes on oc systems from sdcard
[15:34] <zipy> guess its to slow or sth
[15:34] <baconology> any idea how i can remotely read/write rpi inputs ? some kind of network app? i want to form a network of distributed controls (rpi's) that i can read/write to from a central unit
[15:34] <tig|> it will take down the system gracefully and unmount filesystems as nicely as possible
[15:34] <arcanescu> tig|: i dont want to interface to it via cli or similar ssh
[15:35] <baconology> any of you guys heard of such a thing ?
[15:35] * Dovid (~Dovid@ool-1826d413.dyn.optonline.net) Quit ()
[15:35] <baconology> lip rpi(0).gpio(1) kinda adressing from a central pi/computer that handles all the sockets? server/client kinda deal?
[15:35] <baconology> lip = like
[15:35] * Katty eyes baconology
[15:35] <Katty> i like bacon...
[15:35] <baconology> me 2
[15:35] <baconology> (:
[15:35] <baconology> and pi
[15:35] <tig|> arcanescu: oh if it is locked up with no keyboard or ssh attached er I think you are back to pulling the power on it
[15:35] <Katty> are you crunchy?
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[15:35] * Katty pokes at baconology
[15:36] <baconology> but i have like.. a seperate pi for each room of my house right..
[15:36] <baconology> and i want to be able to control them all from 1
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[15:36] <zipy> if ur house has got enaugh rooms u can build a 32xpi supercomputer xD
[15:37] <baconology> is there docs on this?
[15:37] <Katty> if not, you should write up some.
[15:37] <zipy> oh sry it was 64 pis :P
[15:37] <flufmnstr> baconology: could always write a script to talkto the pis and make a nice gui to control them
[15:37] <Katty> more documentation the better, if you ask me
[15:37] <baconology> i dont want to reinvent the wheel and write cilent/server software that allows me to remotely read/write rpi inputs/outputs over sockets
[15:38] <baconology> flufmnstr - thats the idea.. select a room, select light conditions, if blinds are open/closed, if louvres are open for AC/heat, etc
[15:38] * Katty likes this idea.
[15:38] <flufmnstr> if you figure it out lemmie know, i have a haunted house with 8 RPis in em that i want to monitor and trigger from a central location
[15:38] <baconology> yea
[15:38] <Katty> i was considering getting Nest as a house control whateveryoucallit thing
[15:39] <baconology> i have 8 solenoids that spray compressed air at kids for hallowen when they break a laser beam
[15:39] <baconology> its all rpi controlled
[15:39] <tig|> baconology: well there are various home automation systems already or you could use something like puppet to call things over ssh
[15:39] <baconology> but im hitting my limit on inputs/outputs and at the same time like the idea of seperate rpis
[15:39] <Katty> ssh is a grand, wonderful thing
[15:39] <flufmnstr> personally im stuck on passing commands from a script on one to the other
[15:39] <baconology> ya i dont want to buy a PLC
[15:39] <Katty> setup some ssh keys. and BAM. all the things
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[15:39] <tig|> Katty: ssh is how I talk with the world :)
[15:40] <baconology> ok so it sounds like im the trailblazer here as far as this whole networked pi stuff
[15:40] <baconology> i kinda want one big virtual pi
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[15:40] <baconology> made up of different branches of em
[15:40] <Katty> tig|: ssh is how i get to my irssi from All The Places :>
[15:40] <baconology> multiplexed pi's
[15:40] * baconology googles multiplexing pis
[15:40] <baconology> ill let you guys know, thanks
[15:40] <Katty> HE"S BUILDING SKYNET
[15:40] <tig|> Katty: same here, ssh to my pi running irssi
[15:40] <flufmnstr> baconology be sure to github your progress. id be interested in such a system
[15:41] <tig|> Katty: PINET?
[15:41] <Katty> YES PINET
[15:41] * Katty giggles
[15:41] <Katty> tig|: you're so clever.
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[15:41] * IT_Sean adds "NO BUILDING SKYNET" to the channel rules
[15:42] <flufmnstr> awe man
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[15:42] <Katty> tig|: my pi is running ssh, but i don't use it to screen irssi
[15:42] * flufmnstr parts
[15:42] <Katty> tig|: my IP changes...i guess i could setup dynamicdns and what not.
[15:42] <Katty> tig|: just seems like so much effort heh
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[15:42] <tig|> I have a couple of test pis at the moment, one with a camera called pivate-eye and the viewer is called pitv (there is a channel in the UK called ITV)
[15:42] <Katty> tig|: so instead i run crittercam!
[15:42] <Katty> tig|: http://tinyurl.com/b5k3lt4 <- crittercam
[15:42] <tig|> yes I was watching yesterday
[15:42] <Katty> ^_^
[15:42] <zipy> http://www.zdnet.com/build-your-own-supercomputer-out-of-raspberry-pi-boards-7000015831/
[15:43] <zipy> that one was the first who did it i think
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[15:43] <Katty> zdnet...was that the tv show that used to have leo laporte?
[15:43] <tig|> it was very odd to see a red cardinal (I think it was) as we don't really have any small brightly coloured birds over here well not as bright as that!
[15:44] <Katty> ah yes. the cardinal. about the ONLY bright one we have here.
[15:44] <Katty> well, except for the bluebird maybe.
[15:44] <tig|> well apart from parrots but they are not native :)
[15:44] <Katty> no parrots here :< :<
[15:44] <tig|> and you don't get peacocks on birdtables often :)
[15:44] <flufmnstr> may its cause im sitting on 8 cores but 'supercomputer RPi' threads always make me chuckle
[15:44] <Katty> tig|: i've never seen a while peacock. there are domestic ones around here tho
[15:45] <Katty> err wild.
[15:45] <tig|> Katty: well I don't think there are many in the UK it is like the parrots you get clusters of escaped ones breeding in the wild every now and agin
[15:45] <tig|> again
[15:46] <Katty> interesting.
[15:46] <tig|> no parrots around here, that is more of a london, south east thing
[15:46] <Katty> never thoguht about that...
[15:46] <shiftplusone> could make a ratcam, I suppose.
[15:46] <Katty> speaking of the UK
[15:46] <Katty> tig|: you have any tasty recipes?
[15:46] <tig|> we just have loads of pheasants around here as they get bread for shooting :(
[15:46] <Katty> tig|: i'm always on the lookout for new and different things from other countries
[15:47] <arcanescu> what is the default ssh password on the pi ?
[15:47] <malcom2073> raspberry I think?
[15:47] <tig|> arcanescu: raspberry
[15:47] <shiftplusone> arcanescu, which distro?
[15:47] <arcanescu> wheezy
[15:47] * IT_Sean sends Katty his 'Slow cooked squirrel' recipe
[15:47] <arcanescu> username is root?
[15:47] * Katty adds it to the vault, in case we ever go to civil war. or war, period.
[15:47] <shiftplusone> arcanescu, it says on the download page, btw. (http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads)
[15:48] <arcanescu> shiftplusone: thanks i did google i keep going onto god knows where
[15:48] <zipy> arcanescu, acc pi pw raspberry
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[15:48] <Katty> IT_Sean: they're so cutesy. i hate to eat them tho :< maybe we'll eat the birds first. ^_^
[15:48] <zipy> sudo passwd root <-- create new root password
[15:49] <IT_Sean> They are generally adorable
[15:49] <zipy> shiftplusone, im an expert now xD
[15:49] <zipy> and fukin tired hrhr
[15:49] <shiftplusone> zipy, good job experting. Watch the language though. Family friendly channel.
[15:50] <Katty> we're a family friendly channel?!
[15:50] <zipy> i skipped a letter :P
[15:50] <IT_Sean> It's s till against the rules.
[15:50] <Katty> being family friendly is against the rules?
[15:50] <zipy> k im sorry :D
[15:50] <shiftplusone> Katty, yes, despite IT_Sean's outbursts yesterday XD
[15:50] <zipy> yepp
[15:50] <shiftplusone> or was it the day before... idn.
[15:50] <IT_Sean> hey! :o
[15:50] <Katty> IT_Sean: YOU NEVER TOLD ME
[15:51] <IT_Sean> Katty: never told you what?
[15:51] <Katty> it was family friendly!
[15:51] * Katty goes to fetch her cat
[15:51] <zipy> unti u joined ^^
[15:51] <IT_Sean> o_O
[15:51] <Katty> what? cats count as family too
[15:51] <shiftplusone> O_o
[15:51] <zipy> meow
[15:52] <gordonDrogon> is it lunchtime yet..
[15:52] <tig|> Katty: http://oatcakes.u.gg <-- traditional north staffordshire oatcakes (not to be confused with the hard scottish biscuit things) they are a bit like a savory pancake or wrap, make those, then chop and fry some bacon and remove, put an oatcake in the pan, put grated cheddar cheese on top add bacon then another oatcake and basically dry fry it, let it cook together and melt the cheese and then turn over and do the other side. THE best hangover cure
[15:52] <Katty> gordonDrogon: iwish
[15:52] <shiftplusone> gordonDrogon, somewhere, yes.
[15:52] * Katty looks
[15:53] <Katty> tig|: reminds me of pancakes, or crepes
[15:53] <tig|> Katty very similar
[15:53] <Katty> i bet it's DELICIOUS with bacons and cheese
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[15:53] <netman87> i want to do something... i dont know what
[15:53] <shiftplusone> anything is delicious with bacon and cheese.
[15:53] <netman87> i should now repair one laptop and tv
[15:53] <tig|> probably closer to a gallette but with a bit more texture and slightly more fluffy
[15:53] <Katty> netman87: coffee.
[15:53] <netman87> but i dont actually feel like working
[15:54] <shiftplusone> netman87, chat to IT_Sean about linux security for entertainment =D
[15:54] <Katty> netman87: instant coffee
[15:54] <shiftplusone> well.... my entertainment.
[15:54] <tig|> Katty: they used to me made all over the north staffs for people working in the pottery industry as they were cheaper than bread
[15:54] <Katty> tig|: is wholemeal...whole wheat flour?
[15:54] <Katty> tig|: i've never seen wholemeal here
[15:55] <netman87> shiftplusone, he is pretty wrong person to talk about security. so that would ruin my day :P
[15:55] <shiftplusone> =(
[15:55] <netman87> Katty, no instant... its not good as freshly made coffee
[15:55] <Katty> netman87: ^- i approve of this message.
[15:56] <netman87> Katty, you could have used /me for that :P
[15:56] <tig|> Katty: yep, it might be called something else over there :) what do you make brown bread out of?
[15:56] <Katty> netman87: i know. there's just so many options.
[15:57] <Katty> tig|: well. brown like rye bread? or brown like wheat bread?
[15:57] * netman87 likes cats and `ping localhost` = unix-based systems
[15:57] <Katty> tig|: we don't have anything specifically called "brown bread"
[15:57] <netman87> hmm, does anyone know how to make Xorg "black and white"
[15:58] <shiftplusone> netman87, elaborate
[15:58] <pksato> "black and white"? only 2 colors?
[15:58] <zipy> actually that arent colors ^^
[15:58] <netman87> pksato, well greyscale or whatever.. i dont know word 8bit one color channel
[15:58] <baconology> highlight on bacon
[15:58] <baconology> please do not abuse bacon :\
[15:59] <Katty> why not? i enjoy abusing the bacon.
[15:59] <shiftplusone> O_o
[15:59] <tig|> Katty: brown wheet bread I suppose not rye
[15:59] <Katty> not like that, shiftplusone
[15:59] <pksato> on rpi, I suspect that need to set fb to use 1 bit.
[15:59] <tig|> or even wheat
[16:00] <Katty> tig|: hmm. yeah. most wheat bread here is a combination of whole wheat flour and all purpose flour
[16:00] <Katty> tig|: unless you get into 100% whole wheat bread. i thinkt hey try to trick you here.
[16:00] <pksato> but, have parameter to use on xorg.conf that control color depth,
[16:00] <Katty> tig|: next they'll be hiding corn in my bread. other than corn syrup :/
[16:00] <shiftplusone> Hm, if I google X black and white, I mostly get things about a Static-X song I used to like ages ago.
[16:00] <baconology> so it looks like people are saynig use an atmega for more ins/outs but i wanna use rpi :(
[16:01] <netman87> shiftplusone, mind using other word or short description of what youu did say? i dont know that word or software/feature
[16:01] <shiftplusone> netman87, I haven't said anything helpful... googling around now.
[16:01] <netman87> shiftplusone, yeah. i never been successful with my "Xorg black and white" searches
[16:02] <netman87> pksato, yeah. i want Xorg filter/module/settings for it
[16:02] <tig|> Katty: I think it might be Whole Wheat Flour over there
[16:02] <pksato> try search xorg color depth
[16:02] <Katty> tig|: i did some googling. wholemeal is whole wheat.
[16:02] <shiftplusone> netman87, it might come down to using a black and white gtk theme rather than actually running a proper black and white display thing.
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[16:02] <Katty> tig|: and i jus thappen to have some whole wheat flour! yippie!
[16:02] <Katty> tig|: now, about the oats.
[16:02] <Katty> tig|: is that the same as "Old fashioned oats"
[16:02] <Katty> tig|: the stuff you make oatmeal/porridge out of?
[16:02] <tig|> probably, are they rolled?
[16:03] <tig|> yes
[16:03] <tig|> that's the stuff
[16:03] <Katty> and /not/ the instant stuff?
[16:03] <tig|> but you don't want any special porridge ones with extra stuff in
[16:03] <netman87> shiftplusone, i just want to make "linux box" that doesnt have colors :) so im about to make custom bios splash picture and drop console/fb colors and and custom gdm theme, but games have colors
[16:03] <tig|> so not the instant
[16:03] <Katty> ok good.
[16:03] <tig|> as I have no idea what they put in that :)
[16:03] <netman87> shiftplusone, and web browser have colors
[16:03] <Katty> i think they pre-cook the oats
[16:03] <tig|> ah
[16:04] <tig|> well no idea what that would do to it :)
[16:04] <shiftplusone> netman87, and you want to avoid that completely?
[16:04] <pksato> netman87: fbset depth 1 /dev/fb0
[16:04] <netman87> so i need to use something to let programs run normally but display driven only one color channel
[16:04] <Katty> probably make it mushy
[16:04] <Katty> tig|: or a watery oatcake. they wouldn't absorb as much liquid, for sure
[16:04] <Katty> tig|: maybe thinner?
[16:04] <netman87> pksato, thanks. ill try it later. but im not sure if final "product" will be rpi
[16:04] <tig|> ew
[16:04] <Katty> tig|: who knows. i don't want to find out
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[16:05] <Katty> tig|: so about that cheese.
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[16:05] <Katty> tig|: i have irish cheddar (which is a white cheddar, very sharp, pretty salty) and mozzarella
[16:05] <tig|> I would go with the cheddar
[16:05] <Katty> tig|: what kind of cheese would you recommend on these puppies
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[16:05] <Katty> tig|: it's not normal cheddar tho. it's salty cheddar.
[16:06] <netman87> i dont eat puppies with cheese :(
[16:06] <Katty> tig|: would salty cheddar be a problem?
[16:06] <tig|> we normally use either cheddar or cheshire cheese
[16:06] <netman87> even if its good cheese
[16:06] <tig|> Katty: nope not at all
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[16:06] <Katty> tig|: what type of cheddar do you generally buy?
[16:06] <tig|> you won't get cheshire over there but that is more crumbly and salty anyway
[16:06] <netman87> i prefer cheese as cheese and puppies as family members :D
[16:06] * Katty googles cheshire cheese
[16:07] * shiftplusone wonders when this became a cheese channel
[16:07] <shiftplusone> not that I am complaining
[16:07] <tig|> Katty: but if you wanted to you could use something like brie if you wanted a really gooey oatcake
[16:07] <Katty> tig|: ah right.
[16:07] <Katty> tig|: never cared for brie, i was thinking gouda
[16:07] <Katty> tig|: a SMOKED gouda.
[16:07] <tig|> Katty: you want something that melts the two oatcakes together so that it makes it easy to turn over without the bacon falling out
[16:07] <Katty> tig|: ok. i can do that.
[16:08] <Katty> tig|: do you crumble your bacon, or leave it as strips?
[16:08] <tig|> when making oatcakes, cut it into small stips fry it all up then transfer it to a bowl then can just add some to each oatcake :)
[16:09] <tig|> also makes it easy for quality control...
[16:09] <Katty> ok.
[16:09] * IT_Sean blinks
[16:09] <Katty> you know, you could pour the batter ontop of the strips
[16:09] <Katty> and then you'd have bacon IN the oatcakes
[16:09] <Katty> my american is coming out, isn't it
[16:10] <netman87> "#&#%"�# this hurts
[16:10] * Katty puts it away
[16:10] <tig|> Katty: ah your would over cook the bacon then and have structural integrity issues with the oatcakes
[16:10] <Katty> good point. OK. traditional it is!
[16:10] * ChanServ sets mode +o IT_Sean
[16:10] * Katty adds gouda to the shopping list
[16:10] <tig|> Katty: also you don't just have to have them with bacon and cheese
[16:10] * netman87 was kicked from #raspberrypi by IT_Sean
[16:10] <Katty> tig|: ty for the recipe :> i will let you know how it goes!!
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[16:10] <baconology> lol u got kicked for abusing bacon?
[16:10] <Katty> tig|: i want to try them as they're traditionally served
[16:10] <tig|> you can have them with with all sorts of things :)
[16:11] <tig|> Katty: oh they get served with fried eggs and sausages in too
[16:11] <Katty> ok.
[16:11] <tig|> bacon and sausage
[16:11] <Katty> and maple syrup?
[16:11] <tig|> or even heaven help us salad :)
[16:12] <Katty> salad? ^_-
[16:12] <Katty> now that's just weird.
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[16:12] <tig|> well not traditionally but you can use them like a wrap
[16:12] <netman87> IT_Sean, come on!!!
[16:12] <Katty> ohhhhh, i see.
[16:12] <netman87> i didnt break any rules
[16:13] <Katty> tig|: this is perfect tho! i was just wondering what to do for breakfast the rest of the week
[16:13] <MidnightCommando> oh dear lord
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[16:13] <MidnightCommando> not this wanjker again
[16:13] <tig|> Katty: cool :) let me know how you get on :)
[16:13] <MidnightCommando> netman87: you're trying to enter a battle of wits while completely unarmed, no wonder you are annoying everyone
[16:14] <Katty> tig|: yupyup.
[16:14] <shiftplusone> People, there's always /ignore if you don't like someone
[16:14] <Katty> tig|: is it OK to blog the recipe?
[16:14] <Katty> tig|: i will be happy to cite references
[16:14] <tig|> Katty: yep
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[16:14] <shiftplusone> no need for name calling and getting all confrontational.
[16:14] * ChanServ sets mode +o shiftplusone
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[16:14] <netman87> IT_Sean, so what MidnightCommando said isnt not breaking rules? but when i dont even break rules its still "breaking rules"
[16:15] <IT_Sean> That was odd... my connection dropped.
[16:15] <IT_Sean> Huh.
[16:15] <shiftplusone> netman87, don't argue, the rules are clear. PM me if you would like a clarification.
[16:15] * MidnightCommando ack.
[16:15] <netman87> yes rules are like "no foul language"
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[16:15] <netman87> and i didnt use
[16:15] <IT_Sean> You did
[16:15] <Katty> tig|: http://42ndrecipestreet.blogspot.com/ <- that's the blog, FYI. i'll link the post to you if it's tasty (aka Blog Worthy)
[16:16] <Phosie> So did MidnightCommando
[16:16] <IT_Sean> If you read the rules you will see that even #'ing out swears is a violation
[16:16] <tig|> Katty: cool ta :)
[16:16] <Phosie> First thing I saw when I joined the channel.
[16:16] * MidnightCommando nods, terribly sorry; was still annoyed from last night.
[16:16] <netman87> IT_Sean, so *silence* is also violation of rules?
[16:17] * Katty wonders if Fowl Language is ok
[16:17] <shiftplusone> "Replacing one or more letters in a dirty word with *s will still get you warned, kicked, or banned."
[16:17] <MidnightCommando> Katty: so that you can talk turkey? :)
[16:17] <shiftplusone> Katty, fowl language is welcome.
[16:17] <Phosie> Gobble gobble
[16:17] <IT_Sean> netman87: any further clarification of the rules can be handled via PM
[16:17] <Katty> MidnightCommando: i DO love to talk turkey.
[16:17] <tig|> providing you don't mention Mr Chicken...
[16:17] <netman87> shiftplusone, but i didnt change any letters of any word?
[16:17] <Phosie> Raspberry Pi Arch take 2
[16:17] <IT_Sean> netman87: any further clarification of the rules can be handled via PM...
[16:17] <Phosie> Hope it works this time.
[16:17] * ChanServ sets mode +o IT_Sean
[16:18] * shiftplusone sets mode -o shiftplusone
[16:19] <Phosie> Not a sausage
[16:19] <netman87> i have readed rules.
[16:20] <netman87> and it wasnt any known word or variation of any known word
[16:20] <baconology> ok so i was told.. just ssh pi "sudo gpio readall"
[16:20] <baconology> and run that in a loop all the time i gues
[16:20] <baconology> for each pi
[16:20] <IT_Sean> netman87: any further clarification of the rules can be handled via PM. I won't say it again.
[16:20] <Phosie> I must have been mean to SD cards in my previous life
[16:20] * shiftplusone prepares a banhammer
[16:20] <Phosie> and now I'm being punished.
[16:21] <tig|> Phosie: just not booting at all?
[16:21] <tig|> Phosie: if so try a different power adaptor or microusb cable just to rule it out
[16:21] <Phosie> Nope. I had the green status light blinking 3 times, replaced start.elf, didn't work. reflahsed arch and now I'm getting nothing
[16:21] <Phosie> just the power led
[16:22] <netman87> so even if i dont break rules i just get kicked without anyone saying "sorry" and even when i know rules no-none can answer me on channel. also you guys clean just everyone that you are abusing out of channel while installing backports to others computers?
[16:22] <netman87> ban me then
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[16:22] <netman87> thank you for ruining my day
[16:22] * IT_Sean sets mode +b *!*netman87@*.fi
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[16:23] <Phosie> Differing power supply/cable. Same result.
[16:23] <Phosie> Different.
[16:23] <tig|> Phosie: do those cards work with other distros apart from arch?
[16:23] <flufmnstr> 'isntalling backport'?!
[16:24] * flufmnstr rofl
[16:24] <tig|> if so I would verify the image you downloaded by checking it's MD5 checksum to the one on the website
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[16:24] <tig|> flufmnstr: wait aren't backports in debian usually useful :)
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[16:25] <Phosie> I've had them work with Raspbmc and Raspbian
[16:25] <Phosie> How do I see the MD5 checksum?
[16:26] <flufmnstr> it just struck as random script kiddie complaining 'stop hax0ring me'
[16:26] <tig|> if you are on linux then just run : md5sum nameofthefile
[16:26] <Phosie> Brb.
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[16:26] <Phosie> md5sum: archlinux-hf-2013-06-06: No such file or directory
[16:26] <shiftplusone> flufmnstr, he's referring to ssh being on by default.
[16:26] <tig|> if you downloaded it on windows I am not sure off the top of my head but I think there are instuctions on the raspberry pi site under installation
[16:27] <tig|> Phosie: is that the full name of the file?
[16:27] <mcargile> I am looking to build a raspberry pi cluster and I am trying to find out the max wattage a fully loaded pi uses.
[16:27] * shiftplusone installs backports on flufmnstr's computers >=/
[16:27] <Phosie> Yes.
[16:27] <Phosie> oh wait...
[16:27] * Phosie blushes
[16:27] <Phosie> blonde moment
[16:27] <tig|> you did tab complete and there was a choice :)
[16:27] <shiftplusone> mcargile, a max would be about 5v *0.75A
[16:27] <Phosie> Uh-huh...
[16:27] <tig|> we have all done it :)
[16:27] <mcargile> thanks
[16:27] <Katty> tig|: some of us more frequently than others! hehehe
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[16:29] <shiftplusone> hm... left before I could clarify that it would take some USB devices to get to that stage.... oh well.
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[16:29] <tig|> Katty: I got caught out by grep a while ago and I have been using that for many many years...
[16:30] <flufmnstr> shiftplusone: ah, ive never heard it reffered to as 'backports' so it rang as backdoors in my head
[16:30] <Phosie> checksum matches.
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[16:30] <tig|> Phosie: try writing it with a smaller blocksize when doing the dd command
[16:31] <shiftplusone> flufmnstr, yeah, he meant backdoors I think. I am still struggling to decipher the rest of the message though.
[16:31] <flufmnstr> heh
[16:31] <Phosie> I was using Ubuntu imagewriter as that's what I did with my other cards, maybe the card is just faulty.
[16:31] <Katty> tig|: grep is tricksy!
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[16:33] <Phosie> Thanks for the help tig|
[16:34] <tig|> Katty: http://da.mned.co.uk/2010/03/ <-- this is what got me, first thing in a morning before I had had a cup of tea :)
[16:34] <tig|> Phosie: no problem, let us know if it works of you have any other problems
[16:34] <Phosie> I think I'll buy a new card, been having issues for a while.
[16:35] <tig|> Phosie: try the block size thing first as it could just be that
[16:38] * IT_Sean goes for a fresh cup of tea
[16:38] <Phosie> I'll try that now.
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[16:50] <Phosie> Here goes...
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[16:51] <Phosie> Nothing... must be the card.
[16:51] <Katty> you have angered the SD Card gods )=
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[16:51] <Katty> i recommend sacraficing a taco
[16:52] <IT_Sean> I recommend sacrificing a virgin floppy disk
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[16:52] <Phosie> So I have 1 SD card that gets corrupted constantly, and one that flat out doesn't work...woo
[16:53] <Phosie> Now, where did I put those floppy disks....
[16:53] <FR^2> those what?!?
[16:55] * shiftplusone throws a https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/floppy.jpg to Phosie
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[16:55] <Katty> oh to knit or read. knit or read. decisions decisions.
[16:56] <shiftplusone> Get an audiobook and do both.
[16:56] <Katty> one does not simply get an Audio Book of smut
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[16:57] <Phosie> I can't believe you can still buy VHS tapes and floppy disks.
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[16:58] <flufmnstr> i can beat that. i have a tape storage device. ;)
[16:59] * Bretos has some 5.25" floppys
[16:59] <flufmnstr> ooo, i should see if i can hook that up to the pi
[16:59] <Bretos> and a streamer
[16:59] <flufmnstr> oh snap
[16:59] <flufmnstr> you win
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[17:00] <shiftplusone> Damn, the C64 is the most ancient thing I have =( https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/2013-06-05%2000.23.08.jpg not that I am complaining
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[17:01] <flufmnstr> nice. how does it sound?
[17:01] <Bretos> I need new keyboard.. and I need it now :D
[17:01] <IT_Sean> Bretos: Go buy one then.
[17:01] <Phosie> I need to stop spending money.
[17:01] <Phosie> but my pi demands it.
[17:02] <shiftplusone> flufmnstr, I am not sure. I've tried out a few .sid's and I like it, but I have nothing to compare to.
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[17:06] * Phosie screams with happiness and dances
[17:06] <Phosie> I have Arch on my pi :D :D :D
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[17:07] <nid0> ?
[17:07] <nid0> ]'=*l#]
[17:07] <shiftplusone> huzzah!
[17:07] <nid0> oops
[17:07] <Phosie> The other card I was using must have been completely dead
[17:08] <Phosie> I just need to learn how to use it now.
[17:08] <Katty> Phosie: did you sacrafice a taco? or a virgin floppy?
[17:09] <Phosie> I didn't, I'm now in debt it seems.
[17:09] <shiftplusone> Phosie, their wiki is excellent, so it shouldn't be too hard.
[17:10] <Phosie> Hmm... already have an issue. It activate 2 GPIO pins on boot, so now my stepper motor is partially energised.
[17:10] <ReggieUK> it's a feature
[17:11] <ReggieUK> brake engaged :D
[17:11] <ReggieUK> at boot
[17:12] <Phosie> I love it's boot speed however
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[17:12] <shiftplusone> Phosie, which pins?
[17:14] <Phosie> 24 and 26 I think, SPI
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[17:14] <shiftplusone> I think you'll just need to disable the module that initialises them
[17:14] <gordonDrogon> the pins on the pi are unpredictable at boot time - I've found.
[17:14] <shiftplusone> blacklist it from loading
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> however if iyu're using the SPI pins and the SPI module loads at boot time, then both CS lines will be pulled high.
[17:15] <shiftplusone> check if there's some spi module running (lsmod)
[17:15] <ukscone> i need to redo the atrix usb cable, this one is very fussy for kb, have to jiggle the female micro connector just right to work
[17:16] <Phosie> shiftplusone: spidev?
[17:16] <Phosie> and spi_bm2708
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[17:17] <shiftplusone> I would guess it's the 2708 one, but I am sure gordonDrogon will know for usre
[17:17] <shiftplusone> *sure
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[17:18] <shiftplusone> Phosie, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_modules#Blacklisting
[17:19] <Phosie> thank you
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[17:20] <Phosie> I think I'll tackle it all tonight, need to get wifi working etc.
[17:22] <Phosie> and I have a lot to read up on
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[17:32] <Kane> o/
[17:34] <Katty> \o
[17:34] <Phosie> o/
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[17:35] <Kane> hello Katty and Phosie
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[17:44] <gordonDrogon> anything with spi in it - just blacklist it so it's not loaded at boot time - that's the default in Raspbian.
[17:44] <Phosie> Awesome, thanks Gordon.
[17:46] <gordonDrogon> what distro are you using?
[17:47] <Phosie> Arch at the moment.
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[17:47] <gordonDrogon> in /etc/modprobe.d there is a file: raspi-blacklist.conf which has: blacklist spi-bcm2708 & blacklist i2c-bcm2708 (separate lines)
[17:47] <gordonDrogon> that stops the SPI and I2C modules being loaded.
[17:48] <Phosie> I shall create that then, thank you.
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[17:48] <gordonDrogon> (then reboot, or just rmmod them for now)
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[17:51] <bozzaG> hey all
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[17:52] <Bozza> anyone here?
[17:52] <Phosie> Hey Bozza
[17:52] <Phosie> gordonDrogon: That worked, thanks
[17:52] <Bozza> what is the absolute minimum i need in the linux kernel to be able to use the pi?
[17:53] <arcanescu> finally my video wall is ready using the PI's : http://db.tt/DI2THaXE
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[17:53] <Phosie> I wish I knew, I can't help I'm afraid.
[17:54] <Bozza> no worries
[17:54] <shiftplusone> Bozza, I think that will depend on what you mean by 'use'
[17:54] <arcanescu> will be demonstrating this at the MediaCity - BBC on fri and saturday incase anyone is around / intrested
[17:54] <flibble> the kernel and no hardware support other than a serial port ? :)
[17:55] <Bozza> good point shift
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[17:55] <Bozza> i am trying to make a super light xbmc
[17:56] <Bozza> whats infiniband?
[17:56] <shiftplusone> I think there's a cutdown defconfig available for the pi, but I am not sure how cut down it really is.
[17:56] <Bozza> can i throw that out?
[17:56] <nid0> yes
[17:56] <Phosie> Hmm, need to figure out how to enable wireless on this...
[17:56] <Bozza> nid0 its gone
[17:56] <shiftplusone> Phosie, have you used wpa_supplicant directly?
[17:57] <arcanescu> noone likes walls :( ?
[17:57] <Phosie> I haven't. I was following the arch wiki and the "iw dev" command didn't work.
[17:57] <shiftplusone> Phosie, does the interface you want show up when you run ifconfig?
[17:58] <Phosie> I have eth0 and lo
[17:58] <Phosie> Awesome stuff arcanescu, the bezals would annoy me though
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[17:59] <arcanescu> Phosie: bezals? :o?
[17:59] <shiftplusone> Phosie, that's with the wifi stick plugged in? You need to install the required drivers then. Check what chipset it is with dmesg or lsusb
[17:59] <Phosie> the screen borders arcanescu
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[17:59] <arcanescu> Phosie: yes.... i did not have budget for better screens :/
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[18:00] * nid0 is really liking his new screens
[18:00] <arcanescu> i am demoing it at media city incase anyone wants to have a closer look pop by
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[18:00] <Phosie> I love how guides tell you to install something when trying to configure a network
[18:00] <Phosie> I can't install things! lol
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[18:01] <nid0> well, you need to find a way to magic the drivers onto your device then
[18:01] <shiftplusone> Phosie, =/ got an android phone?
[18:01] <shiftplusone> I used usb tethering to get things going.
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[18:01] <Phosie> I haven't. But I think I've nearly got everything working now
[18:01] <nid0> or plugin the network cable, or use an adapter supported by default, or usb tether the pi, or download the driver elsewhere and transfer the deb to your pi
[18:02] <shiftplusone> not a deb
[18:02] <Phosie> Just need to use wpa_supplicant now
[18:02] <shiftplusone> but yes
[18:02] <nid0> oh, didnt see he was using arch
[18:02] <shiftplusone> Phosie, you're a he now, Sophie =D
[18:02] <nid0> also my crystal ball clearly doesnt work
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[18:03] <shiftplusone> heh
[18:03] <Phosie> Apparently so.
[18:04] <Bozza> does one need the comedi drivers for pi?
[18:04] <Bozza> wtf is comedi
[18:05] <shiftplusone> My general rule is if I don't know what it is and the description in menuconfig doesn't help, I don't need it.
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[18:06] <Bozza> hehe awesome shift :)
[18:06] <Bozza> lets see how it goes
[18:06] <shiftplusone> It will be pretty obvious once you boot if you removed too much
[18:06] <shiftplusone> I have to say though, I really doubt there will be any performance difference.
[18:07] <Bozza> DVFS sounds imoportant Dynamic Voltage and Frequency Scaling
[18:08] <shiftplusone> there's usually a line at the end of the description that says "if unsure, choose Y/N" which is handy.
[18:08] * Phosie sighs
[18:09] * Katty pops in over lunch
[18:09] <Phosie> forgot I had an ethernet cable in here
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[18:12] <shiftplusone> 'night
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[18:14] <Encrypt> shiftplusone, 'evening :p
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[18:15] <Katty> http://tinyurl.com/b5k3lt4 <- it seems to be raining!
[18:17] <malcom2073> And Squirrley
[18:17] <Encrypt> Can't say anything better :p
[18:18] <tig|> it is squirreless at the moment
[18:18] <tig|> but has birds
[18:19] <tig|> is that a red cardinal?
[18:19] <tig|> was
[18:19] <Phosie> I'm so confused...
[18:19] <Katty> probably. that's the only red bird i've seen.
[18:19] <tig|> squirrel is back \o/
[18:19] <tig|> Phosie: what is up?
[18:19] <Katty> must be lunch time
[18:19] <Phosie> Configuring wifi on Arch, tig|
[18:19] <Katty> or second breakfast, possibly
[18:20] <tig|> Phosie: ah
[18:20] <tig|> Phosie: is your wifi card recognised by arch ?
[18:20] <Phosie> Yes
[18:20] <tig|> well in that case it should just be a case of slamming in the network settings
[18:20] <Phosie> I think so anyway, lsusb shows it.
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[18:20] <tig|> Phosie: what does ifconfig say?
[18:21] <tig|> does it show up three adaptors? lo0 eth0 and something else?
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[18:21] <Phosie> it shows wlan0
[18:21] <tig|> good
[18:22] <tig|> right now we need to do two things, one is set your wifi credentials and secondly we need to tell the pi what we want to connect to
[18:22] <Phosie> Okay
[18:22] <tig|> let me just grab a config off mine
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[18:23] <Phosie> I used to be able to do it in minutes on Raspbian
[18:23] <Phosie> It seems you have a feathered friend Katty
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[18:24] <tig|> blast both my wifi pis are offline :< basically you will need to edit /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
[18:24] <tig|> and /etc/network/interfaces
[18:25] <SirSkidmore> How do I take the few files needed to boot (start.elf, kernel.img, etc) and create an img out of them on Linux?
[18:25] <shiftplusone> tig|, arch, not raspbian. slightly different.
[18:25] <tig|> but I don't have a handy example config on me right at this second but there are plenty of howtos available
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[18:25] <tig|> was going to say this is from raspbian
[18:25] <shiftplusone> the wifi setup page has all the info
[18:25] <tig|> but is generally pretty interchangable
[18:25] <shiftplusone> (on arch wiki)
[18:26] <shiftplusone> It is, but not the /etc/network/interfaces part
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[18:26] <tig|> erk
[18:27] <shiftplusone> Phosie, do you have internet access through ethernet?
[18:27] <Phosie> I do
[18:28] <shiftplusone> is netcfg available (pacman -Ss netcfg)
[18:28] <shiftplusone> ?
[18:29] <Phosie> It didn't print anything so I'll take that as a no?
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[18:29] <shiftplusone> guess not, have you updated your wpa_supplicant.conf?
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[18:29] <Phosie> Not that I know of.
[18:30] <Phosie> Sorry for being such a noob.
[18:30] <shiftplusone> run "wpa_passphrase SSID" (where ssid is the ssid you want to connect to)
[18:30] <shiftplusone> then type your wireless password
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[18:31] <shiftplusone> it should spit out what you need to put in the .conf file
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[18:33] <Phosie> It says reading passphrase from stdin but I'm not getting anything else from it
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[18:33] <SirSkidmore> no one? No one knows how to create an img file on Linux? :/
[18:33] <shiftplusone> type the password and press enter, Phosie
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[18:33] <Encrypt> SirSkidmore, No idea :(
[18:33] <Phosie> ohhh
[18:34] <shiftplusone> SirSkidmore, what do you want to do exactly?
[18:34] <SirSkidmore> I'm writing my own OS
[18:34] <SirSkidmore> and I want to package it into an img
[18:34] <Phosie> Okay, got it.
[18:34] <SirSkidmore> so people can flash it if need be
[18:35] <shiftplusone> SirSkidmore, SirSkidmore your own OS or your own linux distro?
[18:35] <SirSkidmore> my own OS
[18:35] <shiftplusone> what filesystem will/does it use?
[18:36] <SirSkidmore> The boot area needs to be FAT
[18:36] <shiftplusone> yes, but do you need anything else other than the fat32 partition?
[18:36] <SirSkidmore> nope
[18:37] <shiftplusone> then why create an img when you can distribute it as a zip file or a compressed tarball?
[18:37] <ladoga> SirSkidmore: dd if=/dev/whatever of=whatever.img
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[18:38] <shiftplusone> but yes, you can create an image file as well. Do what ladoga said, then add a partition table and format the partitions, though you will need to use some losetup commands to do that, I think.
[18:38] <shiftplusone> or qemu
[18:38] <SirSkidmore> okay
[18:39] <SirSkidmore> thanks
[18:39] <shiftplusone> but I really think a zip file makes more sense here
[18:39] <shiftplusone> (like NOOBS is distributed)
[18:39] <SirSkidmore> shiftplusone: why would other OSs distribute img files if zip makes more sense
[18:40] <shiftplusone> SirSkidmore, because they need to extra partitions and asking the user to create partitions and extract the files there would be too confusing to beginners
[18:40] <shiftplusone> whereas extracting a zip file is something anyone can do
[18:40] <Phosie> I'll be right back.
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[18:41] <SirSkidmore> but they still have to make sure their SD card is FAT32, right?
[18:41] <SirSkidmore> I mean this would be the catch all
[18:41] <SirSkidmore> (an img file)
[18:42] <SirSkidmore> because it would make sure it was FAT32
[18:42] <shiftplusone> Phosie, well that's embarrassing..... just run wifi-menu
[18:42] <ladoga> yes it would be just an image of your original disk
[18:42] <shiftplusone> SirSkidmore, by specifications, SD cards are FAT32
[18:43] <SirSkidmore> oh
[18:43] <shiftplusone> it's up to you, both are viable options
[18:43] <SirSkidmore> Did not know that
[18:43] <ladoga> bit to bit copy
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[18:45] <ladoga> including partitioning and whatever you have there
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[18:46] <ladoga> nice forum post about dd: http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Applications_GUI_Multimedia/How_To_Do_Eveything_With_DD :D
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[18:48] <Phosie> Thanks for the help shiftplusone
[18:49] <shiftplusone> Phosie, then use netctl to enable the profile to start on boot.
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[18:50] <Phosie> I think I'll stick with ethernet for now, I'm getting so confused.
[18:50] <shiftplusone> sorry, I led you down an overly complicated and unnecessary method.
[18:51] <shiftplusone> just wifi-menu and netctl are all you need
[18:51] <Phosie> Don't be sorry.
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[18:53] <Phosie> Heh, my network didn't show up, strange.
[18:54] <Phosie> second try worked
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[18:55] <shiftplusone> 'netctl list' will show the profile name it creates, netctl enable profilename will enable it to start automatically.
[18:55] <Phosie> I now have a wi-pi, thanks
[18:55] <ladoga> :(
[18:55] <ladoga> root@raspi:/# dd if=/dev/mem of=/root/mem.img
[18:56] <ladoga> dd: reading `/dev/mem': Operation not permitted
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[18:56] <Phosie> ladoga: sudo
[18:56] <ladoga> i'm root
[18:56] <Phosie> oh, root...
[18:56] <ladoga> some ram protection
[18:56] <shiftplusone> yeah, I don't think the default kernel lets you do that
[18:57] <plugwash> by default linux limits what areas of memory can be accessed through /dev/mem
[18:58] <plugwash> iirc there is an option in the kernel configuration to turn those limits off if you REALLY want to
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[19:08] <gordonDrogon> ditto
[19:08] <gordonDrogon> just don't try it.
[19:08] <gordonDrogon> you won't really achieve anything either.
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[19:08] <gordonDrogon> ie. there's not a lot to see :)
[19:08] <Gadget-Mac> gordonDrogon: Top makes on wiringPi
[19:09] <gordonDrogon> Gadget-Mac, cheers.
[19:10] <Gadget-Mac> Only this morning I found the fact you'd replicated arduino millis
[19:10] <gordonDrogon> there used to be an old joke with /dev/mem: # cat /dev/mem | grep llama
[19:10] <Gadget-Mac> I'd spent a few hours wondering how best to do that
[19:10] <gordonDrogon> wherupon you'll find that your RAM is full of Llamas :)
[19:10] <gordonDrogon> Gadget-Mac, ah yes - and delayMicroseconds too.
[19:10] <gordonDrogon> Gadget-Mac, er micros.
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[19:13] <gordonDrogon> Heh.. on a 2.6 system: # cat /dev/mem | fgrep -c llama
[19:13] <gordonDrogon> 3
[19:13] <gordonDrogon> three llamas in my RAM :)
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[19:15] <Gadget-Mac> lol
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[19:15] <Gadget-Mac> gordonDrogon: Any possibility of a freq in type function ?
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[19:24] <Katty> so. just finished my novel. happy ending! yay!
[19:24] <IT_Sean> Well, that was fun </sarcasm>
[19:24] <IT_Sean> powah waz out
[19:24] <Katty> aww did you have internet withdrawl
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> Gadget-Mac, like pulseIn () ?
[19:27] <gordonDrogon> Gadget-Mac, to measure frequency?
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[19:29] <Bozza> whats the pi cross compile prefix?
[19:29] <Bozza> armv6?
[19:30] <Gadget-Mac> gordonDrogon: That sort of thing yes
[19:30] <Bozza> lol hehe i will just try it
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[19:30] <Phosie> Food! o/
[19:30] <Phosie> thanks again for the help guys, you're awesome.
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[19:33] <IT_Sean> Katty: I did!
[19:33] <IT_Sean> Not to mention no phones, no lights, and no good places to eat!
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[19:34] <Bozza> ahhh ithink i want to compile for x86
[19:34] <Bozza> FUCK \
[19:34] <Bozza> :)
[19:34] <Bozza> ctrl c it is
[19:34] <IT_Sean> Bozza: language.
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[19:35] <gordonDrogon> Gadget-Mac, I'll see what I can do for the next release - I have a little signal generator to test its accuracy too.
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[19:36] <Bozza> yo guys is it armv6 which is the correct prefix for GCC and make ?
[19:37] <Bozza> sorry Sean. could someone put stars in there for the log? :)
[19:38] <IT_Sean> Bozza: No. Just don't use that sort of language in here.
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[19:39] <Bozza> ok . sorry again
[19:39] <Bozza> but seriously cross compiler tool prefix .. what do i put there?
[19:39] <Bozza> arm , armv6?
[19:40] <Bozza> has no one here compiled for the pi?
[19:41] <plugwash> depends whose toolchain you are using
[19:43] <flibble> on the pi, many times, cross compiled, no
[19:45] <Squarepy> they compiled linux on the pi at some point
[19:45] * flibble pi compiled up a desktop environment (cde) that took 4 hours, and 3 hours for motif :D
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[19:45] <flibble> tbh, I think I should have probably looked into cross compiling :)
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[19:48] <flibble> still it was faster than compiling perl on a 32MHz arm7 ... that took 2 days
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[19:50] <Bozza> plugwash: i am using gcc libncurses5-dev and the make menuconfig
[19:51] <Bozza> i will just try armv6
[19:51] <Bozza> if it doesnt like it it will probably tell me
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[19:52] <Squarepy> flibble, haha
[19:53] <Katty> hmm. i have nothing to do.
[19:54] <Bozza> this compiling stuff is driving me nuts
[19:55] <Bozza> it doesnt even want to start compiling
[19:57] <Katty> poke it with a taco!
[19:58] <Bozza> i did katty! wow now it is telling me it didnt find armv6gcc
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[19:58] <Bozza> wow it even knows i want it to be armv6
[19:59] <plugwash> what are you trying to build on what using what toolchain?
[19:59] <Bozza> scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 25: armv6gcc: command not found
[19:59] <Bozza> trying to build the linux kernel
[19:59] <Bozza> using GCC, make and libncurse5-dev
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[20:01] <plugwash> http://elinux.org/RPi_Kernel_Compilation
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[20:03] <Katty> tacos fix everything.
[20:03] <Katty> well, nearly everything.
[20:04] <Bozza> is the gcc compiler no good?
[20:04] <gear4> hi, I'm getting colored splash screen, then RPi boot logo asking if I wanted to boot in another mode (to press shift), then nothing
[20:04] <gear4> Power LED is on, OK LED flashed
[20:04] <gear4> any help for me, according to those
[20:05] <donta> press shift?
[20:06] <gear4> it's again asking me which OS I want to install
[20:07] <gear4> should I reformat (again) ?
[20:09] <Bozza> git clone https://github.com/raspberrypi/tools gives me "fatal: destination path 'tools' already exists
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[20:14] <linuxstb> Bozza: That means you already have a directory called "tools" in your current directory.
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[20:20] <beaky> hello
[20:20] <gear4> hello ?
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[20:20] <gear4> any help ?
[20:20] <gear4> nothing works, tried install all OS's on the NOOBS software
[20:20] <beaky> how do I control my raspberry pi
[20:21] <Katty> with treats.
[20:21] <Katty> and lots of training.
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[20:21] <Katty> optionally ssh.
[20:21] <beaky> ah
[20:21] <beaky> I use ssh
[20:22] <JakeSays> i find a mind meld works well too.
[20:22] <Katty> good ole mindmelds.
[20:22] <beaky> mind meld?
[20:22] <Katty> star trek reference
[20:22] <JakeSays> lol
[20:22] <beaky> what is star trek
[20:22] <Katty> JakeSays gets +1 to cool points
[20:22] <Katty> beaky: you need to google that. el pronto
[20:22] * beaky .google("star+trek");
[20:23] <KiltedPi> star wars reference
[20:23] <KiltedPi> 'mind meld'
[20:23] <beaky> star wars?
[20:23] <KiltedPi> Not star trek.
[20:23] <JakeSays> trek. star trek.
[20:23] <Katty> obamam reference
[20:23] <KiltedPi> yus
[20:23] <KiltedPi> Star wars. Wars.
[20:23] * Katty awards KiltedPi +1 cool point
[20:23] <JakeSays> spock was not in star wars.
[20:23] <KiltedPi> Mind melds were in Star wars
[20:23] <Katty> JakeSays: KiltedPi made an obama reference
[20:23] <beaky> I've seen star wars episode 4 only
[20:23] <Bozza> i give up
[20:23] <beaky> excellent film
[20:23] * Bozza throws in the towel
[20:24] <JakeSays> Katty: eh, i pay little attention to politicians.
[20:24] <gear4> hi, I'm getting colored splash screen, then RPi boot logo asking if I wanted to boot in another mode (to press shift), then nothing. power LED on, OK LED flashed once, no display after splashscreens. any help ?
[20:24] <Katty> JakeSays: that's for the best.
[20:24] <KiltedPi> They don't care much for you either JakeSays
[20:24] <gear4> tried to install all OS's on the NOOBS software
[20:24] <Katty> true story.
[20:25] <KiltedPi> boot to lxde gear4
[20:25] <JakeSays> KiltedPi: no, they love me - i pay a boat load of taxes.
[20:25] <KiltedPi> You got command line?
[20:25] <beaky> gear4: maybe there's a problem on the SD card
[20:25] <beaky> or the OS image
[20:25] <Katty> SD cards are the root of all evil today.
[20:25] <KiltedPi> Ah! But you 'voted for the other guy' JakeSays
[20:25] <Katty> we've sacraficed tacos and virgin floppy drives.
[20:25] <beaky> I had that kind of problem and reflashing the card with NOOBS again fixed it (I think)
[20:25] <beaky> or maybe changing the power supply fixed it
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[20:26] <JakeSays> Katty: well better that than virgin tacos and floppy drives.
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[20:26] <Katty> ^__^
[20:26] <KiltedPi> Bourgeois taco's of the proliteriat.
[20:26] <KiltedPi> Decadent beef mince.
[20:26] <Katty> i loled at that. for reals.
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[20:26] <Phosie> o/
[20:26] <Katty> hi Phosie
[20:27] <Phosie> Been fed, back to tinkering with my pi. :D
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[20:27] * JakeSays needs feed.
[20:27] <JakeSays> er, food too
[20:27] <beaky> how do you guys use the pi
[20:27] <Phosie> and trying to get RPi.GPIO to work.
[20:27] <beaky> all I use it for is to archive torrents
[20:28] <Phosie> What do you mean, beaky?
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[20:28] <ryanteck> I use it for hosting, linux boxing and thats it
[20:28] <beaky> I heard the pi was good for electronics projects
[20:28] <Katty> beaky: i broadcast a video stream.
[20:28] <Bozza> can someone point me at a good and small raspbian img?
[20:28] <JakeSays> beaky: i use mine to control a small nuclear reactor
[20:28] <ryanteck> I do wish android came to it quicker
[20:28] <Bozza> please
[20:28] <Phosie> Oh, I mostly use it for python developing and GPIO
[20:28] <ryanteck> Yeah its great for electonics
[20:28] <Katty> beaky: http://tinyurl.com/b5k3lt4 <- feeder.
[20:28] <beaky> wow
[20:28] <beaky> a cat feeder
[20:28] <Katty> beaky: i even have a visitor.
[20:28] <Phosie> Loved watching the feeder earlier
[20:29] <Katty> beaky: *hee* not exactly, but close enough ;)
[20:29] <beaky> oh a bird feeder
[20:29] <ryanteck> Piweekly is good for your weekly dose of Projects ;)
[20:29] <JakeSays> Katty: lol cool video
[20:29] <Katty> aka cat feeder.
[20:29] <beaky> wow that rat is stealing cat food
[20:29] <beaky> bird food*
[20:29] <Katty> JakeSays: it's got about 1 minute of lag.
[20:30] <Phosie> installing RPi.GPIO should be as simple as unwrapping the tarball and then python setup.py install
[20:30] <Phosie> right?
[20:30] <JakeSays> Katty: well then if the squirrel does something x-rated, you're covered. lol
[20:30] <gear4> KiltedPi, I can't, I can't see anything. beaky, how do I diagnose ?
[20:30] <ryanteck> I guess so Phosie, Never used it
[20:30] <Phosie> Well it isn't working :(
[20:30] <ryanteck> gear4 Hi
[20:30] <ryanteck> Whats broken?
[20:30] <ryanteck> and Phosie no idea then sorry
[20:30] <Phosie> ImportError: No module named RPi.GPIO
[20:30] <beaky> wow that bird feeder thing is a live broadcast from the pi
[20:31] <gear4> ryanteck, I'm getting colored splash screen, then RPi boot logo asking if I wanted to boot into recovery mode (to press shift), then nothing. power LED on, OK LED flashed once, no display after splashscreens.
[20:31] <JakeSays> Phosie: i do all my gpio work through mono/c#
[20:31] <gear4> tried to install all OS's on the NOOBS software
[20:31] <ryanteck> Have you tried using the classic method of downloading the imagers?
[20:31] <JakeSays> gear4: try using the regular raspian wheezy image
[20:32] <ryanteck> I find that NOOBS actually has caused a few issues
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[20:32] <Katty> JakeSays: i guess that's one way of looking at it lol
[20:32] <gear4> JakeSays, so re-dl the Raspian software ?
[20:32] <gear4> okay
[20:32] <gear4> any headless packages ?
[20:32] <ryanteck> gear4 download the Raspbian image and if you use windows the image
[20:32] <JakeSays> gear4: the regular image, not the noob junk.
[20:32] <Phosie> I absolutely love that feed.
[20:32] <ShorTie> squirel stew .. :)~
[20:32] <ryanteck> r
[20:33] <gear4> JakeSays, ok
[20:33] <ryanteck> Agree with JakeSays here :)
[20:33] <gear4> but are there any headless packages ?
[20:33] <ryanteck> Headless?
[20:33] <ryanteck> You mean using it without the monitor?
[20:33] <gear4> without a gui
[20:33] <linuxstb> Default Raspbian works well headless.
[20:33] <ryanteck> Yeah
[20:33] <JakeSays> Katty: i have a mouse trap of the no kill variety that i've installed a pi with a webcam in to it.
[20:34] <ryanteck> I rarely use the Gui xD
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[20:34] <Katty> JakeSays: what software are you using to pull the webcam display?
[20:34] <gear4> I mean, any native headless image, linuxstb
[20:34] <gear4> no X11
[20:34] <gear4> no GNOME or LXDE or anything
[20:34] <ryanteck> you have to enable x11
[20:34] <ryanteck> You can remove LXDE after
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[20:35] <gear4> I don't, terminal doesn't require X11
[20:35] <JakeSays> Katty: havent got that far yet. just got the trap door and sensors working. getting the cam streaming is next on the list.
[20:35] <gear4> UNIX works well without X11
[20:35] <ryanteck> Yes I know
[20:35] <ryanteck> Bah
[20:35] <ryanteck> I mean yes no x11
[20:35] <linuxstb> gear4: I use my Raspbian images headless, no GUI/X11. Yes, the packages are there, but if you don't run them, they're harmless. Unless you're seriously short of space.
[20:35] <gear4> oh
[20:35] <Katty> JakeSays: ah, right. would be curious to know what you're using.
[20:35] <JakeSays> gear4: raspian doesnt use x11 by default.
[20:35] <JakeSays> Katty: what are you using?
[20:35] <beaky> is archlunix arm a good disro
[20:35] <Katty> JakeSays: ustream has the streaming software thing built into their website
[20:35] <gear4> oh cool
[20:35] <beaky> or is raspbian better
[20:35] <ryanteck> Beaky Raspbian is recommended
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[20:36] <beaky> ah
[20:36] <gear4> why doesn't Rasp make all available OS's native to Pi
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[20:36] <beaky> yes the default archlinux-arm raspberry pi image is barebones
[20:36] <gear4> native and optimized
[20:36] <Katty> JakeSays: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=44370 <- that might help tho
[20:36] <ryanteck> gear4 There is a lot of OS's native
[20:36] <ryanteck> What one is not/
[20:37] <JakeSays> Katty: a cool thanks
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[20:37] <Katty> JakeSays: http://techspect.co.uk/index.php?id=how-to-raspberry-pi-webcam-server-stream <- or that
[20:37] <gear4> I mean, why is Raspbian recommended ?
[20:37] <ryanteck> Because its the most supported
[20:37] <ryanteck> Its debian, stable, and most common one
[20:37] <JakeSays> gear4: because its brain dead simple to install and use
[20:37] <Katty> JakeSays: using 'motion' looks easier than compiling stuff
[20:38] <Katty> JakeSays: since it compiles it for you when you apt-get it
[20:38] * Katty is lazy
[20:38] <ryanteck> I use Ubuntu currently, Ubuntu is based of Debian just like Raspbian is :)
[20:38] <Phosie> I'm also very lazy.
[20:38] <Katty> nomnomdebiannomnom
[20:38] <gear4> JakeSays, not everyone knows Debian by default
[20:38] <gear4> Debian's nice yea, but Arch is good too
[20:38] * Katty runs asterisk on debian
[20:38] <JakeSays> linux is linux
[20:38] <ShorTie> apt-get does not compile
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[20:38] <ryanteck> gear4 neither does everyone know Arch
[20:38] * gear4 runs Ubuntu right now with yum port
[20:38] <IT_Sean> Raspbian is the Offiical distribution for the raspi, and thus is the best supported
[20:38] <Katty> ShorTie: apt-get install.
[20:39] <Katty> ShorTie: don't be a stick in the mudd, dear
[20:39] <ryanteck> If your new to APT, Type in apt-get moo :)
[20:39] <gear4> Katty, compile
[20:39] <Phosie> moo is awesome
[20:39] <ShorTie> apt-get is packages, pre-compiled
[20:39] <beaky> do people actually use risc os?
[20:39] <JakeSays> Katty: yeah but motion has a pathetic web ui
[20:39] <Phosie> wait, I'm thinking of cow say
[20:39] <Katty> JakeSays: does it? that's a shame )=
[20:40] <JakeSays> i played with one that has an awesome ui, but it didnt like my cam
[20:40] <ryanteck> apt-get source is source code ;)
[20:40] <beaky> risc os seems nice, like a modern AMIGA
[20:40] <beaky> or COMMODORE 64
[20:40] <gear4> how does Raspbian install ? graphically or .. ?
[20:40] <JakeSays> gear4: no
[20:40] <gear4> no ?
[20:40] <JakeSays> gear4: text
[20:40] <IT_Sean> o_O
[20:40] <beaky> the raspbian install is a TUI script
[20:40] <ryanteck> Actually it is already installed
[20:41] <gear4> k, requiring monitor ?
[20:41] <Phosie> I'm going to miss raspi-config
[20:41] <ryanteck> You just put the pre installed image on the SD card
[20:41] <Katty> IT_Sean: i think you need to have your eyes checked.
[20:41] <JakeSays> ryanteck: right
[20:41] <Katty> IT_Sean: you will end up giving yourself a headache!
[20:41] <IT_Sean> Katty?
[20:41] <rbxs> someone running a hubot on the raspberry?
[20:41] <JakeSays> gear4: you need a monitor for initial configuration
[20:41] <Katty> IT_Sean: 13:40 < IT_Sean> o_O
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[20:41] <ryanteck> Or a USB Debug / Serial Cable
[20:41] <IT_Sean> O_o
[20:41] <JakeSays> although you might be able to tweak the sdcard beforehand
[20:41] <gear4> okay
[20:41] <Katty> IT_Sean: yes, that.
[20:41] <gear4> thanks
[20:41] <IT_Sean> He can SSH in as well, JakeSays
[20:41] <ryanteck> Yeah
[20:42] <IT_Sean> gear4: you can also SSH in for the init config
[20:42] <JakeSays> IT_Sean: is ssh enabled initially?
[20:42] <IT_Sean> Yes
[20:42] <gear4> I don't know how to do it via SSH
[20:42] <IT_Sean> It is
[20:42] <ryanteck> SSH, Debug Cable, Monitor
[20:42] <JakeSays> ah cool
[20:42] <beaky> yes raspbian automagically has sshd on
[20:42] <ryanteck> gear4 ssh into your Pi
[20:42] <JakeSays> then yeah, no monitor required
[20:42] <ryanteck> and type in sudo raspi-config
[20:42] <Gelb> JakeSays: yeah, even with a default password, so you should change it ASAP after installing it.
[20:42] <gear4> ok
[20:42] * Katty hopes someone builds the Turk
[20:43] <JakeSays> IT_Sean: i just assumed that because there was an option in raspi-config to enable sshd that it wasnt enabled by default.
[20:43] * IT_Sean puts a squirrel on Katty's head
[20:43] <Phosie> 2 squirrels!
[20:43] <Katty> really? i only see one.
[20:43] * Katty refreshes
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[20:43] <Phosie> Well there was...
[20:43] <IT_Sean> JakeSays: It's enabled by default. Selecting ENABLED in raspi-config just leaves it on. Selecting DISABLED turns it off
[20:43] <Katty> Phosie: this thing is buggy
[20:43] <Phosie> One scared off the other
[20:43] <JakeSays> ah ok
[20:43] <Katty> Phosie: ah right. they like to do that.
[20:44] <Katty> Phosie: occasionally they play nice tho :>
[20:44] <JakeSays> lol squirrels are cool
[20:44] <Katty> he seems very concerned about the yard
[20:44] <IT_Sean> Squirrels are ebil
[20:44] <Katty> but cute!
[20:44] <JakeSays> that one is well fed
[20:44] <Phosie> I've seen more nature on your stream in an hour, than I have in my garden the whole year
[20:44] <IT_Sean> Yes
[20:44] <Katty> they all are :>
[20:44] <IT_Sean> cute. But ebil.
[20:45] <Katty> i keep them fat.
[20:45] <JakeSays> Katty: what part of the world are you in?
[20:45] <Katty> squabble!!!
[20:45] <Katty> JakeSays: southern missouri
[20:45] <Phosie> wow
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[20:45] <Katty> Phosie: fiesty aren't they!!!
[20:45] <Phosie> Very.
[20:46] <Katty> you'd think they were starving
[20:46] <JakeSays> Katty: you should make the food a bit harder to reach so we could watch them climb, etc. lol
[20:46] <gear4> oh wait
[20:46] <Katty> JakeSays: that's hard to do with a webcam in the window :/
[20:46] <gear4> the OS installed but the UI never started
[20:46] <gear4> kk
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[20:46] <Katty> JakeSays: i've tried a couple angles, but the quality just isn't good if it's not right on top of the feeder
[20:46] <JakeSays> Katty: ah good point
[20:46] <IT_Sean> gear4: raspbian does not start the gui automatically. do startx to start it
[20:46] <JakeSays> Katty: ohhh put one IN the feeder!
[20:47] <Katty> i've no idea how to do that
[20:47] <IT_Sean> very carefully, Katty
[20:47] <Katty> clearly.
[20:47] <Katty> and with tacos.
[20:47] <IT_Sean> what IS it with you and tacos!?
[20:47] <Katty> what's wrong with tacos?! >.<
[20:48] <IT_Sean> Nothing.
[20:48] <JakeSays> Katty: i lifted the cam from an old macbook. its super small and can fit just about anywhere.
[20:48] <IT_Sean> You just seem obsessed w/ em
[20:48] <beaky> how do I ssh into a raspberry from a phone
[20:48] <Katty> beaky: with an app that does ssh.
[20:48] <beaky> (can phones even run a terminal?)
[20:48] <beaky> ah
[20:48] <IT_Sean> beaky: do you have an SSH client on the phone?
[20:48] <beaky> I think I do
[20:48] <JakeSays> all this talk of tacos is making me very hungry.
[20:48] <IT_Sean> open it
[20:48] <JakeSays> woah an actual bird!
[20:48] <Katty> beaky: OR you could logmein to a computer, and ssh from there. but that seems like work
[20:48] <IT_Sean> and do SSH <ip of raspi>
[20:48] <JakeSays> pretty red bird
[20:48] <Katty> beaky: if your IP changes or something. or i guess you could use dynamic dns
[20:49] <gear4> IT_Sean, cool thanks
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[20:49] <JakeSays> now there are two birds
[20:49] <Katty> grackle and cardinal
[20:49] <JakeSays> 3! bird fight!
[20:49] <Katty> 2 grackles and a cardinal
[20:49] <Katty> 3
[20:49] <JakeSays> 4
[20:49] <JakeSays> 5!
[20:49] <Phosie> wow!!
[20:49] <JakeSays> you're popular
[20:49] <Katty> poor cardinal
[20:49] <gear4> IT_Sean, how can I start LXDE ?
[20:49] <JakeSays> holy cow
[20:50] <JakeSays> that one bird is mean
[20:50] <Phosie> startx
[20:50] <ryanteck> gear4 type startx
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[20:50] <ryanteck> you just said you wanted to run t headless.....
[20:50] <Katty> JakeSays: yeah. grackles are fiesty. the only worse one i've seen is a Blue Jay
[20:50] <Katty> JakeSays: blue jay will run a squirrel off
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[20:50] <JakeSays> lol and now the squrrel
[20:50] <gear4> ryanteck, nothing's appearing on monitor
[20:50] <beaky> wow that is a hungry rat
[20:50] <ryanteck> at all?
[20:50] <beaky> how long has it been there
[20:50] <Katty> JakeSays: might be a different one.
[20:50] <ryanteck> What are the status lights?
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[20:50] <Katty> JakeSays: i can't make out the notches in the ears at this resolution tho :/
[20:50] <Phosie> That is truly amazing
[20:51] <gear4> at all
[20:51] <Katty> JakeSays: idk why, but they all have different notches. maybe fights or something?
[20:51] <gear4> Y G G R
[20:51] <gear4> @ ryanteck
[20:51] <JakeSays> Katty: could be
[20:51] <ryanteck> So networks on
[20:51] <Katty> only thing i could figure
[20:51] <JakeSays> lol this is way more interesting than actually, ya know, working
[20:51] <ryanteck> Did the monitor come on for Raspi-config/
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[20:52] <Phosie> Could it be outputting compisite?
[20:52] <ryanteck> Possibly
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[20:52] <ryanteck> or the other HDMI mode
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[20:52] <Phosie> I know I need to edit config.txt to get any display
[20:52] <ryanteck> I think its hdmi_safe or something
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[20:52] <gear4> ryanteck, no
[20:53] <Phosie> I have to use hdmi_mode=2
[20:53] <ZogG_laptop> does part of ram goes to gpu?
[20:53] <IT_Sean> ZogG_laptop: Yes
[20:53] <ryanteck> Yes ZogG_laptop
[20:53] <ZogG_laptop> as i have model B but all it shows that i have 122 mb
[20:53] <ryanteck> depending on how much you allocate it
[20:53] <ZogG_laptop> i have rev 1
[20:53] <ryanteck> Try running raspi-config, advanced and then memory split
[20:53] <KiltedPi> what is an rpm?
[20:53] <KiltedPi> Like a zip?
[20:54] <KiltedPi> Will i need something to run an rpm?
[20:54] <ryanteck> the package that contains the files for fedora I beleive
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[20:54] <gear4> KiltedPi, rpm is Red Hat's package manager
[20:54] <ryanteck> If you are running Pidora no I don't think so
[20:54] <JakeSays> lol two squirrels and a bird
[20:54] <gear4> and all RH-based distros, like Fedora and CentOS
[20:54] <Gadget-Mac> Anyone done SSR pwm with a Pi ? gordonDrogon ?
[20:54] <KiltedPi> not raspbian then?
[20:54] <ryanteck> No
[20:54] <gear4> nope
[20:54] <ryanteck> Raspbian uses .deb
[20:54] <KiltedPi> bummer
[20:55] <gear4> although you could port it if you want, I'm working on that with Raspbian atm
[20:55] <ryanteck> Normally if you download stuff for linux you can get generic / source code, RPM and DEB
[20:55] <KiltedPi> I was trying to use the SDL lib's on my pi
[20:55] <gear4> KiltedPi, install 'em with apt-get
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[20:55] <KiltedPi> Oh. I did that.
[20:55] <KiltedPi> I meant-
[20:55] <KiltedPi> I dunno
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[20:56] <KiltedPi> oh
[20:56] <gear4> KiltedPi, source or binary libs ?
[20:56] <KiltedPi> I'm a numpty
[20:56] <KiltedPi> Yes.
[20:56] <KiltedPi> It should be fine !Haha
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[20:56] <gear4> actually, do "apt-cache search sdl | grep sdl" if you're not sure
[20:56] <KiltedPi> just gonna make a quick c test code, then compile in gcc
[20:56] <KiltedPi> Yeah got em
[20:56] <gear4> k
[20:56] <KiltedPi> ta!
[20:57] <JakeSays> i wonder if clang is supported
[20:57] <gear4> JakeSays, clang is in Ubuntu's repos
[20:57] <gear4> so I guess so
[20:57] <ryanteck> possibly
[20:57] <ryanteck> Check it in the raspbian ones
[20:57] <ryanteck> its just a package called clang yeah?
[20:57] <JakeSays> gear4: it has to support the right version of arm, not sure if its been targeted yet
[20:58] <gear4> which version ?
[20:58] <gear4> 11 iirc ?
[20:58] <ryanteck> Well armv6 was is the older one
[20:58] <ryanteck> Which is what the Pi uses
[20:58] <ryanteck> I'l check the Raspbian Repo for you
[20:58] <gear4> "llvm-as < /dev/null | llc -mcpu=help" should show it
[20:59] <ryanteck> Yep try typing apt-get install clang
[20:59] <ryanteck> :)
[20:59] <JakeSays> ah cool
[20:59] <ryanteck> If its a normal linux package just try it
[20:59] <ryanteck> most stuff has been compiled
[20:59] <gear4> it's default package in Ubuntu
[20:59] <ryanteck> and it is in debian
[20:59] <ryanteck> Then just by checking the Raspbian repo and bam it was there :)
[21:00] <gear4> I mean debian yes
[21:00] <gear4> confusion :)
[21:00] <gear4> is Raspbian Deb7 or Deb6 ?
[21:01] <ryanteck> Erm
[21:01] <ryanteck> based off 7
[21:02] <JakeSays> hmm. its clang 3.0 - a bit dated
[21:02] <JakeSays> also no lldb support :(
[21:02] <ryanteck> Well I am going to swap from my laptop to my computer
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[21:02] <ryanteck> Ahh, never used or heard of clang before now
[21:02] <ryanteck> Ttyl
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[21:02] <JakeSays> llvm/clang == coolest thing since sliced bread
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[21:03] <gear4> ok, rymate1234
[21:03] <gear4> oh he left
[21:03] <gear4> anyway so in raspi-config, I enabled boot to desktop, and rebooted, but nothing is appearing
[21:04] <Phosie> did you reboot?
[21:04] <gear4> yes
[21:04] <gear4> I said I did
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[21:08] <IT_Sean> if you do startx does anything happen?
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[21:09] <gear4> keeps saying "ERROR: openbox-xdg-autostart requires PyXDG to be installed"
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[21:12] <gear4> IT_Sean, keeps saying "ERROR: openbox-xdg-autostart requires PyXDG to be installed"
[21:13] <gear4> after "Obt-Message: Xinerama extension is not present on the server"
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[21:19] <gear4> hello ?
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[21:23] <beaky> hello
[21:24] <beaky> if I poweroff the pi by unplugging the mains
[21:24] <beaky> will it break
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[21:25] <cm13g09> beaky: maybe
[21:25] <cm13g09> it won't break the Pi
[21:25] <beaky> ah
[21:25] <cm13g09> might trash your SD card though
[21:25] <cm13g09> and need a re-image
[21:25] <beaky> right
[21:25] <beaky> why does the pi use an sd card
[21:25] <beaky> rather than a usb stick
[21:25] <beaky> or builtin flash
[21:26] <cm13g09> I can only presume that SD card is what the Broadcom chip knows how interface with nicely
[21:26] <beaky> ah
[21:26] <cm13g09> USB is on a hub controller, so you need something to make that work first
[21:26] <beaky> right
[21:26] <Squarepy> I find it quite handy, it is low power
[21:27] <cm13g09> Flash would have been an option, but I suspect too hard for most people to work with
[21:27] <beaky> yes SD cards are awesome
[21:27] <cm13g09> SD cards are a happy in-between stage
[21:27] <beaky> they are pricey though :( more expensive than the pi
[21:27] <cm13g09> beaky: really?
[21:27] <beaky> yes
[21:28] <cm13g09> what size?
[21:28] <beaky> 64G
[21:28] <cm13g09> AH
[21:28] <cm13g09> that'd be why then
[21:28] <cm13g09> if you could use a smaller card
[21:29] <Encrypt> beaky, How much?
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[21:30] <beaky> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005V7WIA2
[21:30] <beaky> 100 bucks
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[21:31] <IT_Sean> O_O
[21:31] <beaky> yeah the prices on sd cards are astonishing
[21:31] <IT_Sean> You spent 100 dollars on an SD card?
[21:32] <gear4> I can't install gnome ?
[21:32] <beaky> or is it just SanDisk that is overpriced?
[21:32] <IT_Sean> Are you clinically insane!?
[21:32] <beaky> yes :(
[21:32] <gear4> <IT_Sean> You spent 100 dollars on an SD card?
[21:32] <gear4> haha
[21:34] <beaky> http://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Class-Flash-Memory-SDSDB-008G-AFFP/dp/B007JRB0TC/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1372793605&sr=1-1&keywords=sandisk+8gb+sd+card this one is more reasonably priced
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[21:34] <KanjiMonster> well, it's a micro sd card, those tend to be a bit more pricy
[21:34] <gear4> I got a class 10 for about 199 rand
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[21:35] <KanjiMonster> if you want expensive take that one ;) -> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00720TE1M/
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[21:36] <gear4> lol KanjiMonster that's only half of what I just got got paid :o
[21:37] <gear4> I got this actually: http://www.amazon.com/Verbatim-Premium-Flash-Memory-96808/dp/B001L1RGUE/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1372793816&sr=1-1&keywords=verbatim+premium+SDHC+16gb
[21:37] <ricksl> actually those high class sd cards don't work well for the raspberry pi in most cases
[21:38] <ricksl> aka class 6 class 10
[21:38] <beaky> aw :(
[21:38] <gear4> really ?
[21:38] <beaky> what class is best for arduino
[21:38] <ricksl> they have a high sequental write speed
[21:38] <gear4> yea
[21:38] <VitaBushido> use the compatibility chart for SD cards
[21:38] <IT_Sean> I think i spent something like 15$ for my SD card.
[21:38] <beaky> for raspberry pi*
[21:38] <VitaBushido> but it can lie someties
[21:38] <VitaBushido> m*
[21:38] <ricksl> aka they can have data constantly read or written to
[21:38] <Encrypt> beaky, Why don't you buy a SD Card + an external hard drive?
[21:38] <ricksl> but it is smaller random reads and writes that dictate os performance
[21:39] <gear4> anyways, how can I install gnome ?
[21:39] <beaky> I had an external drives lying around
[21:39] <beaky> the good thing about arduino is that lots of the hardware for it is usually already available at home
[21:40] <beaky> s/arduino/raspberry pi/
[21:40] <beaky> I could've stolen the SD card from a digital camera
[21:41] <Phosie> I can't imagine gnome running well on a pi
[21:41] <cbxbiker61> in my experience sandisk is the best for 4k random io
[21:41] <gear4> Phosie, or getting LXDE working
[21:41] <gear4> GNOME2 I mean, btw
[21:41] <Phosie> I never had a problem with LXDE
[21:41] <cbxbiker61> f2fs is the best filesystem for 4k random io
[21:42] <ricksl> I can't find it now but i remember an xda forum thread about sd benchmarks
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[21:43] <ricksl> had a chart with user submitted benchmarks, all in all it showed class 2 cards having higher random read/write performance
[21:43] <gear4> I can't get anything working
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[21:45] <cbxbiker61> ricksl, maybe in some cases, but in the case of micro-sd sandisk ultra is king
[21:46] <cbxbiker61> for all practical purposes, it's pretty much hitting the theoretical max performance of sd
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[21:47] <gear4> oh, the Terminal doesn't work on my monitor
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[21:49] <gear4> https://pastebin.com/nJ2F3SEa <= the output from startx
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[21:51] <gear4> hello ? anyone ?
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[21:56] <Encrypt> gear4, Ya ;)
[21:56] <Encrypt> Hum... I don't know... :S
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[21:59] <cbxbiker61> gear4, make sure your /usr/bin/Xorg file has 04755 permissions
[21:59] <gear4> cbxbiker61, would it change if I never done anything to it ?
[22:00] <cbxbiker61> then try it again and look in /var/log/X*log
[22:00] <gear4> it's a fresh install
[22:00] <cbxbiker61> sometimes the installers don't get the permissions set
[22:00] <gear4> hm
[22:00] <gear4> ok
[22:01] <gear4> oh, is SLiM any use for the Pi ?
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[22:01] <gear4> I use it on Desktop and it's a little faster login screen than gdm
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[22:02] <cbxbiker61> anything that cuts down the # of MB that need to be read from sd is useful
[22:03] <cbxbiker61> that will always be the bottleneck with sd
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[22:06] <Bushmills> upx may be helpful (upx-ucl as package name)
[22:06] <gear4> what's the default login for the media thingy ?
[22:06] <Bushmills> a compressor for executables
[22:06] <gear4> media center linux
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[22:27] <jelly1> did anyone migrate their install to f2fs?
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[22:30] <cbxbiker61> i'm running f2fs on one pi and on my cubox
[22:31] <cbxbiker61> cubox has f2fs root, my pi hasn't been converted to root f2fs yet
[22:32] <cbxbiker61> jelly1, http://www.xilka.com/kernel/UPDATE-KERNEL.sh , will allow you to install an f2fs enabled kernel
[22:32] <jelly1> nevermind fixed it
[22:32] <jelly1> cbxbiker61: edited /boot/cmdline.txt changed ext4 to f2fs
[22:32] <jelly1> \o/
[22:33] <cbxbiker61> yeah, for most practical purposes you don't have to set the filesystem type in cmdline.txt
[22:33] <jelly1> archlinuxarm seems to default to it
[22:33] <cbxbiker61> well they put it in...it's not required
[22:33] <jelly1> cbxbiker61: i know
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[22:34] <jelly1> anyway 3.9.8 + f2fs
[22:34] <cbxbiker61> main thing specifying ext4 on the command line does is prevent some ext2/ext3 warnings
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[22:34] <jelly1> cbxbiker61: anyway I'm happy it works
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[22:35] * jelly1 can sleep now
[22:35] <cbxbiker61> yeah, it's been purfect for me
[22:35] <jelly1> cbxbiker61: is it any faster/snappier for you?
[22:36] <cbxbiker61> oh yeah, i rebuild/reinstall a lot of packages which means lots of writes to sd
[22:36] <jelly1> I'm planning todo much reads/writes
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[22:36] <cbxbiker61> i'll give you a benchmark f2fs/ext4 hang on...
[22:36] <jelly1> hm k
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[22:37] <cbxbiker61> http://www.solid-run.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1373
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[22:39] <jelly1> thanks
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[22:40] <AlmtyBob> where do people in the US buy appliances? I need a new washer and all I can think of is Sears and Home Depot
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[22:44] <IT_Sean> Lowes
[22:44] <IT_Sean> Ace
[22:45] <IT_Sean> [insert Local Appliance Reseller here]
[22:45] <AlmtyBob> yah, found one at Lowes
[22:46] <AlmtyBob> washer doesn't drain, I have bad drains so I call a plumber. It's the washer. Call an appliance repair place that says they carry all the parts on their trucks; they don't have the part. I took a day off work and now I'm kinda assed out. Have to wait until Friday until I can have damn clean clothes 8(
[22:47] <IT_Sean> You can get 4 days out of a pair of undies. Frontwards, Backwards, Inside out, Inside out & backwards.
[22:47] <IT_Sean> ^ pro tip
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[22:48] <AlmtyBob> 4 days? That's for n00bs. I go at least 5
[22:48] <IT_Sean> That's just disgusting.
[22:48] <AlmtyBob> then again, boxers tend to be cleaner than briefs
[22:49] <cbxbiker61> Bushmills, interesting... I just built/installed upx on my x86 box and it compressed an executable from 4.8M to 1.7M, that's pretty awesome, i'll have to do some testing on my arm machines but i may have to make it standard procedure in my package build on thos archs
[22:49] <IT_Sean> And more confortable!
[22:49] <kaste> IT_Sean: I was gonna say I hope you are never near but then I realized I would notice in advance and stay away
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[22:49] <AlmtyBob> hell yes!
[22:49] <IT_Sean> kaste: I don't make a practice of doing that! Relax.
[22:49] <IT_Sean> jeez
[22:49] <IT_Sean> :p
[22:49] <AlmtyBob> I don't know at what point I just gave up on life and started wearing boxers for several days in a row. I think it just kinda happened
[22:49] <IT_Sean> that's gross, AlmtyBob.
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[22:50] <AlmtyBob> dunno, I'm not a sweaty or smelly guy in the slightest so they stay perfectly fresh
[22:50] <AlmtyBob> I won't re-wear anything else though except maybe a button up shirt and my suits
[22:50] * IT_Sean moves for a change of subject
[22:50] <AlmtyBob> granted. I gotta go buy some socks
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[22:52] <Katty> man, i love socks.
[22:52] <Katty> especially when you pledge the floor so it's slick
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[22:52] <Katty> one good run and WOOOSH, you're off. straight into a wall
[22:53] <pksato> Oh... I got a project to do with my RPi, a RePlIcator (star trek). :)
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[23:11] <baconology> safe to assume you guys do all your HIM programming in Python?
[23:14] <gordonDrogon> I don't program in Python.
[23:14] <gordonDrogon> HIM/HER or anything.
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[23:17] <gordonDrogon> I program in BASIC because I have that choice :)
[23:17] <gordonDrogon> Although I had to write my own BASIC interpreter to get one I liked ...
[23:17] <gordonDrogon> ... in C.
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[23:28] <linuxstb> What's HIM programming?
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[23:31] <ricksl> oh thats right gordon you do the return to basic project don't you.
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[23:41] <gordonDrogon> ricksl, yup :)
[23:41] <ricksl> and wiring pi
[23:41] <gordonDrogon> I've no idea what HIM programming is. Human Interface ... mangling?
[23:41] <vtoms> has any one use the HDMI screen rotation by 90?
[23:41] <gordonDrogon> wiringPi too..
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[23:42] <ricksl> you just got your little fingers in every pie don't ya
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[23:48] <baconology> er, HMI programming i meant
[23:49] <baconology> going the pygtk + glade route but dont nkow if theres an easier way
[23:49] * linuxstb doesn't know that either...
[23:49] <baconology> ur gui's
[23:49] <baconology> u build ur gui's with python i imagine?
[23:49] <Bushmills> i for interface, i guess
[23:50] <baconology> just wondering whats best if im starting new
[23:50] <mgottschlag> <3 Qt and C++
[23:50] * Bushmills uses hammer and chisel, for stone plates
[23:50] <baconology> ya someone mentioned Qt + pyqt
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[23:51] <linuxstb> baconology: I think everyone here will give you a different answer… What languages are you familiar with?
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[23:59] <baconology> visual basic :(
[23:59] <baconology> and python
[23:59] <baconology> i forget all my constructor stuff tho
[23:59] <baconology> and i really like how easy visual basic is in designing the GUI part

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