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IRC Log for 2013-07-17

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[0:00] <l_r> hello
[0:00] <shiftplusone> coolty, ah, found it
[0:00] <shiftplusone> coolty, here is the calculator example https://github.com/4dsystems/ViSi-Genie-RaspPi-Demo-Calculator/blob/master/calculator.c
[0:00] <savid> Firehopper, yeah it's a min-din, but it's 7 pins. http://i.imgur.com/Ndx1MyH.png
[0:01] <Firehopper> then get a usb to serial adaptor, make a adaptor cable and use that to connect to the rpi
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[0:01] <steve_rox2> this server ever gonna be stable again?
[0:01] * steve_rox2 is now known as steve_rox
[0:01] <Firehopper> I dont know anything about that other port your trying to connect to..
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[0:02] <savid> Yeah, I know. I was mainly just trying to understand this whole TTL vs 232 stuff
[0:02] <shiftplusone> coolty, a smaller, simpler example is here https://github.com/4dsystems/ViSi-Genie-RaspPi-Demo-Slider
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[0:03] <Firehopper> wiki rs232?
[0:03] <Firehopper> or google it?
[0:03] <Firehopper> its a older method of sending data..
[0:03] <Firehopper> modems an such
[0:03] <savid> actually, this answered my question: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=5219
[0:04] <savid> So you're right about me only needing the level shifter
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[0:06] <Katty> evening folkses
[0:07] <shiftplusone> hello again
[0:07] <CeilingKitten> Welcome back shiftplusone =)
[0:07] <CeilingKitten> and Katty
[0:08] <shiftplusone> I've been back for a while (and fixed an annoying bug, yay) D=
[0:08] <shiftplusone> but thanks
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[0:08] <Katty> CeilingKitten: sup
[0:08] <CeilingKitten> yeah, my mind has been off the chat.
[0:09] <shiftplusone> ah, then welcome back to you too.
[0:09] <Katty> i'm not sure my mind is ever on the chat :P
[0:09] <Katty> not completely
[0:09] <CeilingKitten> I'm creating my own motd, and following the amazing security guide posted by jini_e =), then im looking into USB over IP
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[0:10] <Katty> fancy.
[0:11] <CeilingKitten> Been laughing at some of the funny evil admin motd's i seen though xD
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[0:12] <shiftplusone> CeilingKitten, mind sharing or is it not #raspberrypi material?
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[0:13] <SpeedEvil> On the general topic of food. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LTI_Y_TrFo - Fight the power!
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[0:14] <CeilingKitten> Umm it's just random funny motd's that incredibly devious admins have made stuff like tail squid.log | grep <boss'es ip> , or doing a filesize check and having the login banner shame people for hogging all the server space, nothing i could ever use on a pi but they make me laugh
[0:14] <shiftplusone> ah, heh
[0:15] <CeilingKitten> It was stuff not appropriate ever, lol pretty sure if anyone tried them they would be more than fired
[0:16] <BurtyB> bah you need fortune like the good old days for the laughs
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[0:16] <CeilingKitten> i keep seeing motd's with Cowsay >.>
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[0:50] <apo_> \o/ I actually remembered that to get a voltage follower you need a common collector amp
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[0:54] <poli> From which mainstream kernel version are the RPi included?
[0:55] <poli> *RPi-specific stuff
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[0:58] <linuxstb> poli: I didn't think it was.
[1:00] <poli> linuxstb: That' s what's in Chris Boot's page: http://www.bootc.net/projects/raspberry-pi-kernel/
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[1:01] <poli> Oh the official kernel shipped with raspbian, not the official official kernels. Now I understand. ;)
[1:01] <linuxstb> ;)
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[1:01] <shiftplusone> linuxstb, some stuff is. Enough to boot.
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[1:02] <linuxstb> What do you mean by "enough to boot" ? i.e. what's missing?
[1:02] <shiftplusone> No idea, haven't tried it myself.
[1:02] <linuxstb> But I mean, if it boots, what else is there?
[1:03] <poli> And there is no 3.5 branch on the raspberrypi/linux repo. :( RT life is so hard.
[1:03] <linuxstb> I guess some hardware drivers? GPIO, USB ?
[1:03] <poli> linuxstb: I2C, SPI, GPIO, USB
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[1:04] <shiftplusone> linuxstb, perhaps the VC and mailbox stuff as well. I don't know the specifics.
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[1:06] <poli> sooo how do I find kernel version 3.4.6 in the raspberrypi/linxux repo?
[1:07] <poli> I don't. :(
[1:07] <shiftplusone> seems like they skipped 3.4
[1:08] <poli> Let me try another possibility: the rpi-3.2.27 has all the support (I2C, SPI, GPIO, USB) than the currently shipping kernels?
[1:09] <shiftplusone> idn, looks like it was last updated in November last year.
[1:09] <shiftplusone> what are you doing anyway? O_o
[1:09] <poli> shiftplusone: trying to patch Xenomai
[1:10] <shiftplusone> ah
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[1:25] <yggdrasil> http://www.4dsystems.com.au/product/5/40/Raspberry_Pi_Display_Modules/4D_Serial_Pi_Adaptor/ that should get me talking to my roomba right ?
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[1:26] <shiftplusone> that looks like just a breakout board, with no chips on it.
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[1:27] <yggdrasil> yea your right
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[1:27] <shiftplusone> So, unless the roomba uses 3.3v UART, nope.
[1:27] <yggdrasil> i could jsut plug into the header
[1:27] <yggdrasil> heres a thread.
[1:27] <yggdrasil> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=48170
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[1:28] <shiftplusone> so you'd want a level shifter
[1:28] <yggdrasil> .yea
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[1:28] <yggdrasil> bidirectional
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[1:29] <shiftplusone> I don't know if it needs to be bidirectional, since you TX is only output and RX is only input, right?
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[1:29] <shiftplusone> -you
[1:29] <yggdrasil> oh yea thats right
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[1:37] <yggdrasil> damit
[1:37] <yggdrasil> i may have burned out gpio 1
[1:37] <yggdrasil> or 0
[1:37] <yggdrasil> or 17 however you wanna call it.
[1:37] <shiftplusone> =(
[1:39] <savid> ouch. the 3v3 line?
[1:39] <yggdrasil> no
[1:39] <yggdrasil> gpio 1
[1:39] <yggdrasil> i mena
[1:40] <yggdrasil> hold on in wiring pi gpio 0
[1:40] <yggdrasil> is not responding
[1:41] <shiftplusone> are you sure it's not being used by one of the alternative functions?
[1:42] <shiftplusone> nvrm, shouldn't be.
[1:42] <yggdrasil> i just need to check if its hooked up right :)
[1:43] * shiftplusone why so many people are hooking up their pi to a roomba today.
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[1:43] <yggdrasil> who else ?
[1:44] <yggdrasil> ahh reboot fixed it !
[1:44] <yggdrasil> :)
[1:44] <yggdrasil> gotta love that
[1:44] <yggdrasil> and !!! whats awesome : watch -n .5 gpio readall
[1:44] <yggdrasil> that is cool as ...all get out
[1:44] <shiftplusone> yggdrasil, savid
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[1:46] <savid> yggdrasil, you're making a roopi too?
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[1:46] <shiftplusone> that's a terrible name >_<
[1:46] <savid> piroomba?
[1:46] <yggdrasil> savid yea
[1:46] <yggdrasil> totaly
[1:46] <yggdrasil> how ... strange
[1:46] <Scriven> roopi FTW!
[1:46] <yggdrasil> msg me
[1:46] <shiftplusone> clearly pimba is the right answer
[1:46] <yggdrasil> hmm
[1:46] <yggdrasil> im making a robot
[1:47] <yggdrasil> not sure what anyone else is doing
[1:47] <yggdrasil> a sentient robot
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[1:49] <Scriven> sentient even!
[1:49] <Scriven> smrtroopi!
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[1:54] <savid> Poomba.
[1:55] <shiftplusone> yggdrasil, don't forget http://xkcd.com/534/
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[2:00] <yggdrasil> shiftplusone: awesome!
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[2:05] <yggdrasil> ok i think i just found the way to get to my son
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[2:06] <yggdrasil> i told him i would give him 10 dollars if he could sit down and type the cmds to make 5 gpios turn on and then turn off.
[2:06] <yggdrasil> 5 times
[2:08] <apo_> yggdrasil: tell him he gets 15 if he uses loops ;P
[2:08] <yggdrasil> yea hes 6
[2:08] <shiftplusone> Lol, I don't think that's "getting through" as much as it is... giving money.
[2:08] <yggdrasil> dont think he can pull it off.
[2:09] <yggdrasil> yea
[2:09] <yggdrasil> lets see if he even remembers thta i offered it to him
[2:09] <yggdrasil> hes 6 .. he just got out of kindergarten
[2:09] <shiftplusone> So, start him off with some assembler.
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[2:13] <shiftplusone> yggdrasil, just thinking though, making it seem like a chore might not be a good idea.
[2:14] <Katty> pushups are awfulsauce.
[2:14] <yggdrasil> haha
[2:15] <yggdrasil> i have my pi hooked up to this thing :
[2:15] <SpeedEvil> Katty: Don't try to do many pushups. Just do one pushup over and over.
[2:15] <yggdrasil> https://www.google.com/search?q=radio+shack+electronic+learning+lab&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=D-LlUd_4GOLkygGO54Ew&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1011&bih=739#q=radio+shack+electronic+learning+lab&safe=off&tbm=isch&source=lnt&tbs=isz:l&sa=X&ei=EuLlUb1cyNzJAcPKgbAM&ved=0CBkQpwUoAQ&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.49405654%2Cd.aWc%2Cpv.xjs.s.en_US.QXiTEk6XjhM.O&fp=e66f75971c2b23ff&biw=1011&bih=739&facrc=_&imgrc=uKlL9oykTmAwmM%3A%3BJsJGtqh0hjZP
[2:15] <Katty> SpeedEvil: easier said than done.
[2:16] <yggdrasil> and every time i try to show him something he just wants me to make the voltmeter move
[2:16] <Katty> SpeedEvil: even with a 1 minute break between sets, i can oly pull off about 10
[2:16] <yggdrasil> im like but its lights !!
[2:16] <yggdrasil> controlled from a computer program
[2:16] <yggdrasil> !!
[2:17] <SpeedEvil> Katty: Doesn't matter. More seriously.
[2:17] <SpeedEvil> Katty: Do ten one day. Keep doing it for a week, and it'll be easy.
[2:17] <SpeedEvil> Then move up to 12, or whatever.
[2:17] <Katty> i've been at this a year.
[2:18] <Katty> i'm up to 10
[2:18] <Katty> it's a GOOD thing!
[2:18] <Katty> well. 5 sets of 10
[2:18] <Katty> you have no idea how weaksauce i was. still am...
[2:18] <Katty> not that i care. well maybe a little.
[2:18] <SpeedEvil> 10 proper, or girlie ones?
[2:18] <Katty> proper
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[2:18] <Katty> had to start with girlies
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[2:19] <SpeedEvil> That's not terrible then.
[2:19] <Katty> getting there.
[2:19] <Katty> it's also not great :P
[2:19] <SpeedEvil> I do note that much exercise research seems to be tending towards the first few reps a day having the most effect.
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[2:20] <SpeedEvil> (Not, of course from a caloric point of view)
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[2:21] <Katty> SpeedEvil: i'm going to send you a pm.
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[2:23] <yggdrasil> this was my awesome discovery of the day : watch -n .5 gpio readall
[2:24] <poli> yggdrasil: really nice
[2:25] <yggdrasil> i thought so.
[2:29] <yggdrasil> ahh i wanna code, but studying for ccent
[2:29] <yggdrasil> :(
[2:31] <poli> what is ccent?
[2:31] <yggdrasil> cisco certification
[2:31] <yggdrasil> the very basic one.
[2:31] <poli> oh
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[2:32] <poli> last cisco I messed with was a 2500
[2:32] <poli> with 1 1Mb port
[2:32] <yggdrasil> still having an issue with the bits on subnets
[2:32] <yggdrasil> not sure why ...
[2:32] <yggdrasil> i need to see what the heck im doing wrong . iget the mmost of the time but everyonce in while im one bit off
[2:33] <yggdrasil> i have anice little home lab
[2:33] <yggdrasil> actualy the reminds me i need to go ask a question
[2:33] <poli> yggdrasil: That part is really annoying, but once you get the hand for it, it is just basic math.
[2:33] <yggdrasil> yea i know
[2:33] <poli> mask and such
[2:33] <yggdrasil> i just need to sit and look at why i keep moving the bit over
[2:33] <RiXtEr> yggdrasil, learntosubnet.com
[2:33] <yggdrasil> when im caluclating for the increment usualy
[2:33] <yggdrasil> i get the subnet right all the time but the increment i miss occasionaly
[2:34] <yggdrasil> ill jsut sit down and take a closer look .
[2:34] <RiXtEr> yggdrasil, there is a lot of good info on that site.
[2:34] <yggdrasil> ok ill check it out.
[2:34] <yggdrasil> except i need to focus on that and few other specific items for the test.
[2:34] <yggdrasil> i have .. an agenda : )
[2:35] <yggdrasil> but i noticed something intersting
[2:35] <yggdrasil> i was setting up a arch system this morning
[2:35] <yggdrasil> and i decided hmm what i if i ping the broadcast ?
[2:35] <apo_> adafruit's shipped my stuff \o/
[2:35] <yggdrasil> and so i did it and ping responded with trying to ping the broacast ? use -b
[2:35] <RiXtEr> yggdrasil, linux is nice for that ;)
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[2:35] <yggdrasil> so i did it and then, my router at 10.0.0.21 was the one that responded
[2:36] <yggdrasil> i was confused as to why that was
[2:36] <yggdrasil> out of all the things on the lan ..
[2:36] <RiXtEr> yggdrasil, any device on the network that accepts broadcast packets will respond.
[2:36] <yggdrasil> the cisco router was the one that .. pinged back ?
[2:36] <yggdrasil> was it just the fastest ?
[2:36] <yggdrasil> or the closest ?
[2:36] <yggdrasil> it wasnt physically the closest.
[2:37] <RiXtEr> you should see others if they accept broadcast, but if they have a firewall, they likely won't
[2:37] <yggdrasil> ahh isee
[2:37] <yggdrasil> actually now i just did it again and they are all chiming in.
[2:37] <yggdrasil> well not all but ..
[2:37] <yggdrasil> hmm.
[2:37] <yggdrasil> still why arent theyall responding.
[2:37] <poli> I used to keep my gateway in .12
[2:37] <yggdrasil> technically everything should respond at some point
[2:37] <yggdrasil> im only getting 3
[2:37] <poli> just because I had a previous gateway on .1 and I had other services in it :)
[2:37] <yggdrasil> why .12 ?
[2:37] <yggdrasil> ahh yea thats good
[2:38] <poli> The average network technician does not understand "how this is possible"
[2:38] <yggdrasil> built an arch box shell.
[2:38] <poli> it is funny, I suppse
[2:38] <yggdrasil> what .12 ?
[2:38] <yggdrasil> two gateways ?
[2:38] <yggdrasil> uh its simply a differnt gateway ?
[2:38] <yggdrasil> haha
[2:39] <poli> having a gateway on some IP that is not .1
[2:39] <yggdrasil> oh yea
[2:39] <yggdrasil> whats your dhcp issuing ?
[2:39] <RiXtEr> lol my gateway was 10.1.1.9
[2:39] <poli> used to be 172.16.66 :)
[2:39] <yggdrasil> i was working on a net the other day that had one at 192.168.50.243
[2:39] <poli> Now it is 10.134.222
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[2:39] <RiXtEr> as long as its out of the dhcp scope its fine.
[2:39] <yggdrasil> im like ... ok whatever ?
[2:39] <poli> :)
[2:39] <yggdrasil> some randome number
[2:39] <RiXtEr> and 99% of the time dhcp is 'smart' enough not to use the gateway.
[2:40] <RiXtEr> (as a lease)
[2:40] <yggdrasil> ahh
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[2:42] <yggdrasil> i ran a lan where we had redundant isps
[2:42] <yggdrasil> and some trafic would go out to one and some to antoerh
[2:42] <yggdrasil> on static routes
[2:42] <yggdrasil> it was awesome
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[2:42] <BurtyB> bgp would make it more so :)
[2:42] <yggdrasil> mostly because of existing vpns that were bound to peers
[2:43] <poli> yggdrasil: BGP?
[2:43] <poli> oh static routes
[2:43] <yggdrasil> nah it was jsut static .
[2:43] <poli> yggdrasil: I had 6 different links at once
[2:43] <yggdrasil> one would handle all the internet junk
[2:43] <poli> and my own Class C net
[2:43] <yggdrasil> and one would handle the line of business apps
[2:43] <poli> I had an iptables that was 500+ lines
[2:44] <yggdrasil> that way youtube didnt crap out the lob
[2:44] <BurtyB> poli, you need to get into the modern age with your class c
[2:44] <yggdrasil> dam
[2:44] <poli> impossible to manage
[2:44] <poli> BurtyB: that was 10 years ago
[2:44] <yggdrasil> yea iptables .. was awesome
[2:44] <yggdrasil> you had it runnign on a real computer ?
[2:44] <yggdrasil> rotuing ?
[2:44] <yggdrasil> an 8086 ?
[2:44] <poli> That was the crasiest part
[2:44] * yggdrasil pokes
[2:44] <poli> it was a DESKTOP computer
[2:45] <BurtyB> poli, still sounds about 10 years too late :)
[2:45] <yggdrasil> it can do it
[2:45] <yggdrasil> haha
[2:45] <poli> I swear I was not to blame, it was already there when I got there.
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[2:45] <yggdrasil> yea sometimes you just have to .. understand what it is and slowly move services to a more ..
[2:45] <poli> BurtyB: everyone understands Class C ;)
[2:45] <yggdrasil> best practices type of approach
[2:45] <BurtyB> poli, only if they're seo monkeys who have no clue :)
[2:45] <yggdrasil> i think all net admins have fallen into theier class c hole
[2:46] <yggdrasil> for a bit
[2:46] <poli> BurtyB: so how would you rephrase that in the 2010s?
[2:46] <BurtyB> poli, CIDR
[2:47] <RiXtEr> The place where I used to work had an entire class C public
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[2:47] <yggdrasil> dam
[2:47] <poli> BurtyB: that just doesn't do history justice :)
[2:47] <yggdrasil> well , im curoious as to how v6 is gonna dump us all onto the public..
[2:47] <BurtyB> poli, you'd have to go back to the early 90's to get away with it :)
[2:48] <poli> BurtyB: I had my own 256 IP addresses
[2:48] <poli> BurtyB: contiguous
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[2:48] <poli> BurtyB: much easier to say I had my own Class C
[2:48] <poli> isn't it? :)
[2:48] <yggdrasil> im gonna be honest
[2:48] <BurtyB> poli, cool - I have my own /24 and /23 and 2 AS atm... much easier to say I have a /24 and /23 :)
[2:48] <yggdrasil> im a very poor network admin
[2:48] <yggdrasil> but i attempt to learn and do the best i can
[2:48] <yggdrasil> no one can know everything
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[2:55] <kryl> hi, I try to blind setup hostapd to raspberrypi to take control directly with wifi , do you have some return from this method ? I think I need some help :)
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[3:01] <j4jackj> hi
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[3:05] <yggdrasil> damit my gpio0 is out
[3:06] <RiXtEr> yggdrasil, stop overloading it.
[3:06] <yggdrasil> i think i remember when i did it
[3:06] <yggdrasil> i awhile back
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[3:06] <yggdrasil> thats the .. problem with going directly to the chip
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[3:07] <yggdrasil> oh well
[3:07] <yggdrasil> one down 8 to go :)
[3:07] <yggdrasil> how many more .. not even sure
[3:07] <j4jackj> get a new pi
[3:07] <RiXtEr> 16
[3:07] <RiXtEr> there are 17 total IIRC
[3:07] <j4jackj> aqojekuxibdmhwtvnzs
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[3:18] <yggdrasil> i just got a wild hare to write something pics a random number beetween 0 and 255 and displays it in binary
[3:18] <yggdrasil> on leds
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[3:20] <shiftplusone> For how much?
[3:21] <pksato> easy...
[3:22] <AquaSeaFoam> anyone have a few minutes to help out a noob? I have a corrupt raspbx installation and was hoping I could copy off my config files or a the config backup I had on the SD card and copy them to a fresh install. I don't have a linux box with an SD card reader handy though
[3:22] <shiftplusone> AquaSeaFoam, is the pi bootable at all?
[3:22] <AquaSeaFoam> yes
[3:22] <AquaSeaFoam> boots but has some issues including mysqld problems
[3:23] <RiXtEr> apt-get install openssh-server
[3:23] <shiftplusone> I would copy the needed files onto a usb stick
[3:23] <RiXtEr> then use winscp
[3:23] <shiftplusone> ah yeah, scp is an option too
[3:23] <pksato> Use some tool to read extfs on you main computer.
[3:24] <RiXtEr> ext2fs or something like that works in windows.
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[3:24] <BurtyB> are there any other gpio based boot options like "safe mode"?
[3:24] <AquaSeaFoam> ok, so taking a step back, firstly, how do I view the non boot part of the sd?
[3:25] <shiftplusone> on a windows pc?
[3:25] <AquaSeaFoam> or on the pi
[3:25] <shiftplusone> on windows, ext2fs or similar
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[3:25] <shiftplusone> on a pi it's all under /
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[3:26] <AquaSeaFoam> i'm really new at this. i can't even use like ls, do I need to install that?
[3:27] <shiftplusone> hm, ls should definitely work, sounds like your system is quite messed up.
[3:27] <RiXtEr> AquaSeaFoam, google for `ext2fs windows`
[3:27] <AquaSeaFoam> I don't know if raspbx includes ls by default
[3:27] <RiXtEr> without the tick marks
[3:27] <shiftplusone> it's hard to tell exactly what's going on without being there physically.
[3:27] <mbender71> is you can't use ls, check if your $PATH is corrupt or missing
[3:27] <AquaSeaFoam> ok
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[3:28] <RiXtEr> well effed up libs can do that too...
[3:28] <AquaSeaFoam> alright, i'll give ext2fs a try first, thanks
[3:28] <shiftplusone> sounds like your best bet
[3:29] <shiftplusone> I use ext2fsd http://www.ext2fsd.com/
[3:30] <mbender71> can you remember the last thing you did before everything went to hell?
[3:30] <AquaSeaFoam> went home for the weekend =]
[3:30] <mbender71> that always does it :-P
[3:30] <shiftplusone> make a note of never doing that again then
[3:30] <AquaSeaFoam> power went out over the weekend and it was messed after that
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[3:35] <poli> AquaSeaFoam: interesting, first report I have on problems due to power shortage on the RPi ext4
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[3:42] <shiftplusone> poli, haven't been around much then? =P
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[3:43] <RiXtEr> use the barrier=1 mount option and i think it help on power shortage filesystem corruption.
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[3:46] <mbender71> typically barriers are on by default
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[4:03] <AquaSeaFoam> Using ext2fsd, I've assigned a drive letter using mountpoints, but can't seem to get windows to recognize the assigned letter. Any advice?
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[4:05] <j4jackj> I do not know
[4:05] <AquaSeaFoam> it's showing status on that partition as stopped
[4:08] <poli> shiftplusone: probably ;)
[4:08] <poli> shiftplusone: I will mount my root partition read only from now on.
[4:08] <pksato> can some test this script to display byte as binary on leds connected to gpio? http://pastebin.com/1i6BgewL
[4:09] <poli> pksato: if only I managed to make my gertboard leds work...
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[4:18] <pksato> dowloanding gertboard manual...
[4:18] <\\Mr_C\\> what would i need to mount this camera module, i cant seem to find anything small enough for the holes
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[4:22] <djapo> i have a usb powered hub but i also have a power supply connected to the pi, is this ok?
[4:23] <j4jackj> noo!
[4:24] <pksato> poli: to use led os push, need to set jumpers to out or in, do it?
[4:24] <djapo> j4jackj: why not?
[4:24] <j4jackj> the usb hub needs to be self powered
[4:24] <pksato> jakeri: one psu to rpi, and other psu to hub? its ok.
[4:25] <Scriven> Hrm, Can the raspberry pi handle >720p via youtube plugin on OpenElec?
[4:25] <pksato> ops, sorry.
[4:25] <pksato> djapo: one psu to rpi, and other psu to hub? its ok.
[4:25] <poli> pksato: I have them in out, but no luck. Haven't given it much attention since the initial failure.
[4:26] <Scriven> It appears to play 720p perfect, it's so clear!
[4:26] <djapo> pksato: thats my set up, so i havent damaged my pi or hub by doing so
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[4:27] <pksato> djapo: you can use one psu too. power RPi from one port of HUB.
[4:27] <rikkib> djapo, If you unplug the RPi ps the hub may back feed... Just means you need to unplug the hub ps to cycle the machine
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[4:30] <djapo> pksato: rikkib : thanks
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[4:34] <Scriven> Anyone, anyone? Bueller? Bueller?
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[4:46] <Scriven> In answer to my own question, it appears to handle it awesomely, yes. :D
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[4:52] <savid> What does the "Alt 0 function" mean for the GPIO pins? (as seen in the table here: http://elinux.org/RPi_Low-level_peripherals)
[4:53] <savid> oh, nm. just found the link for that.
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[5:20] <savid> Ok, so I've figured out what was causing my Rpi to piss off my roomba. I put an LED on UART_TXD line so I could see activity, and it did a lot of blinking during boot, which was probably sending a bunch of garbage to the roomba's serial port. Is there a way for me to control which GPIO pins are on/off during boot?
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[5:22] <rigid> savid: hm, iirc you can alter the kernel commandline not to use the serial port as console. then it should be quiet during boot
[5:22] <savid> ah
[5:22] <savid> ok, I'll look that up
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[5:24] <rigid> savid: it's in config.txt
[5:24] <savid> awesome. thanks!
[5:25] <rigid> or is it? hm
[5:25] <rigid> savid: nah, it's in cmdline.txt as it seems
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[5:26] <rigid> savid: yes... remove the "console=ttyAMA0..." stuff from cmdline.txt
[5:26] <rigid> or make it ttyAMA1
[5:26] <rigid> i'm not sure... you could also try null
[5:27] <rigid> or just wait for the answer of someone a bit more familiar with the peculiarities of the rpi ;)
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[5:29] <\\Mr_C\\> anyone know where to get a longer camera module ribbon cable?
[5:30] <\\Mr_C\\> or the mounting feet of some sort
[5:30] <steve_rox> ebay uk
[5:30] <\\Mr_C\\> blah
[5:30] <\\Mr_C\\> cost to much
[5:30] <rigid> \\Mr_C\\: if you got one, tell us your mileage of length/broken frames :)
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[5:31] <\\Mr_C\\> i found a 16 inch from an american seller, but was looking for something longer
[5:31] <rigid> \\Mr_C\\: to source it, i guess R+S electronics, mouser, farnell or digikey will be a good try
[5:31] <rigid> \\Mr_C\\: don't be surprised if it doesn't work (stable)
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[5:31] <\\Mr_C\\> hmm
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[5:37] <savid> rigid, I don't see it in config.txt but it is in /boot/cmdline.txt
[5:37] <rigid> (2013-07-17 05:25:35) rigid: savid: nah, it's in cmdline.txt as it seems
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[5:37] <savid> oh heh missed that :)
[5:37] <rigid> savid: read your msgs! ;)
[5:37] <rigid> nvm
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[5:38] <rigid> hm, a test video of the camera module seems rather hard to find...
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[5:43] <[Saint]> rigid: ...errrr, really?
[5:43] <[Saint]> http://goo.gl/7hLuA
[5:44] <[Saint]> There's ~5 obvious hits on the first page there for me - I realize this is locale specific, but, you should have similar results.
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[5:46] <savid> Hmm, interesting. Something else is still using ttyAMA0. Not quite as much after I disabled console though. There were two blips transmitted during boot.
[5:46] <rigid> [Saint]: hm... i'd really prefer to get the file the pi produces, not youtube encoded
[5:46] <rigid> so i didn't search youtube... but thanks
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[5:47] <[Saint]> Its enough to see that the camera is non-terrible, and there's quite a few full-hd results there.
[5:47] <rigid> i did search vimeo tho :)
[5:47] * [Saint] uses Google *far* too much.
[5:47] <rigid> well, i need exact results... i want to analyze the file
[5:48] <rigid> preferably with lots of motion
[5:48] <[Saint]> Aha. Perhaps you might be able to ask someone nicely either here, or in the forums.
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[5:48] <rigid> yeah, that'd be my 2nd try
[5:48] <[Saint]> I am still waiting for the courrier that handled the last stage of delivery to admit that they've lost my units so I can get new ones shipped.
[5:49] <rigid> ouch, that sucks...
[5:49] <rigid> well, I guess i have to get a camera anyway to do some test shots with a color board
[5:50] <savid> Is it possible to repurpose other GPIO pins as UART?
[5:51] <[Saint]> We were testing a couple of units at the hackerspace I frequent a while back and noticed that the two units we had took *very* different images. But that may have been a case of a defective unit, or manufacturing flaw.
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[5:51] <[Saint]> Both units took nice images and video, but the color was quite different when comparing the two.
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[5:52] <rigid> [Saint]: hm... could that be the effect of auto exposure or some "auto scene setting" thing?
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[5:53] <rigid> i guess you want to have that stuff manually set and apply color correction afterwards
[5:53] <rigid> which somehow is a tradeoff i guess
[5:55] <savid> ARgh. I may have to use some kind of digital switch ic and programatically turn on the serial circuit only when needed
[5:55] <[Saint]> Possible. We tried to limit the amount of things that could go wrong, like lighting, placement, etc. by having the pis as close to each other as we could - pointed at the same area as best we could. And after we noticed the color difference we even switched the camera modules around in case it was the pi itself, and then tried switching the (identical) monitors around in case the difference was caused there...but in the end, it seemed it was the
[5:55] <[Saint]> camera modules making the difference.
[5:55] <[Saint]> One had rather a lot more red than the other.
[5:56] <[Saint]> Enoguh to notice with the naked eye.
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[5:57] <[Saint]> Both sets of images and video were very good, and you wouldn't look at either one and say they were "bad", just..."different", when comparing the two.
[5:57] <[Saint]> I now find it unfortunate that we never saved those image/video sets.
[5:57] <[Saint]> Seems it would've helped your cause.
[5:58] <[Saint]> Sorry. :-S
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[6:06] <overrider> I bought a USB to Serial Cable that i connected to my RPI. On my host machine i see a ttyUSB0, but connecting to it and then powering on the RPI yields no output. Is there extra configuration i need to do on the RPI before the serial console is useable?
[6:08] <[Saint]> overrider: http://elinux.org/RPi_Serial_Connection
[6:08] <overrider> Thanks
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[6:10] <[Saint]> That should get you up'n'running.
[6:14] <j4jackj> Hiyas
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[6:45] <Keridos> a quick question: i try to use raspberry pi with xbmc on raspbian
[6:45] <Keridos> it seems as when i run xbmc without my tv being turned on
[6:45] <Keridos> it does not start rendering on the hdmi output
[6:45] <Keridos> so basically i need to restart xbmc after i turned on my tv, is there a way to fix that?
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[6:48] <Orii-pi> hello everyone
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[6:57] <KrzPi> hello
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[7:02] <Orii-pi> whats up?
[7:03] <Orii-pi> lol so touching both of my heat sinks on the pi will disconnect the keyboard and reconnect it as soon as i stop XD
[7:03] <Orii-pi> i shouldnt do that much
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[7:25] <[Saint]> Orii-pi: that sounds....odd.
[7:25] <[Saint]> I assume its the SoC and the USB controller that have the syncs on?
[7:25] <Orii-pi> indeed XD
[7:26] <Orii-pi> yes
[7:27] <Keridos> what do the license keys for video codecs do?
[7:27] <Keridos> enable their decoding or enable hardware support for those?
[7:27] <[Saint]> Neither should be that sensitive to the relatively small amount of charge you carry, or the bridge you're creating between them.
[7:27] <[Saint]> that's very weird.
[7:27] <Keridos> saint: it increases the capacity towards ground
[7:27] <Orii-pi> they are copper if that helps
[7:27] <Orii-pi> in a lego case
[7:27] <Orii-pi> on a wooden desk
[7:28] <Keridos> basically the heatsink is a capacitor not attached to anything (optimal)
[7:28] <[Saint]> "enable their decoding or enable hardware support for those?" <-- in this instance, I believe those are one and the same thing.
[7:28] <Keridos> but if you touch it, you ground it -> may bring oszillators to a slightly different frequency
[7:29] <Keridos> saint: hardware decoding increases the decoding speed significantly
[7:29] <Keridos> my cpu can decode aes without hardware support with about 300-350 mb/s, hardware support increases it to 3,5 gb/S
[7:29] <Keridos> that is what i aimed my question at
[7:30] <Keridos> and nvm
[7:30] <Keridos> i found it in the shop
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[7:31] <_u2pop_> guys did you see what raspberry pi do?
[7:31] <_u2pop_> one guy hacked a microwave with that hardware
[7:31] <_u2pop_> lol
[7:31] <_u2pop_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2YtARzJTys
[7:32] <Orii-pi> wait what?
[7:32] <Orii-pi> explain man
[7:32] <_u2pop_> yeah
[7:32] <_u2pop_> look it
[7:32] <Orii-pi> im on console only
[7:32] <Orii-pi> no other computers here
[7:32] <_u2pop_> have siri
[7:32] <_u2pop_> integrated
[7:32] <_u2pop_> microwave please put 3 minutes
[7:32] <_u2pop_> turn on
[7:32] <_u2pop_> hahahaha
[7:32] <Orii-pi> woah
[7:32] <_u2pop_> and many other stuffs
[7:32] <Orii-pi> that is awesome! :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
[7:33] <Orii-pi> see these are teh cool projects im talking about!
[7:33] <_u2pop_> hahaha
[7:33] <Keridos> wow dat microwave
[7:33] <Orii-pi> hell man thanks for sharing that
[7:36] <_u2pop_> no problem :)
[7:36] <_u2pop_> enjoy it :)
[7:36] <_u2pop_> i want if somebody can put in the topic here
[7:38] <_u2pop_> and have a application for control it too
[7:38] <Orii-pi> not sure if any ops are alive
[7:38] <_u2pop_> hahahah
[7:38] <rikkib> It is called google... You put in "Raspberry Pi <search term>"
[7:39] <_u2pop_> rikkib what?
[7:39] <Keridos> oh man
[7:39] <Keridos> i setup raspberry pi as an nas/media center
[7:39] <Keridos> and i just calculated the total cost of copying all my media via lan to the usb drive attached
[7:40] <Keridos> that would be about 3,5 days nonstop sending
[7:40] * Keridos thinks unplugging the drive, moving it to my pc and then copy the stuff would be like 10x faster
[7:40] <Orii-pi> Keridos: probably XD
[7:41] <Orii-pi> rikkib: wat you talking about?
[7:41] <Keridos> but hell the pi is awesome
[7:41] <Orii-pi> hell yeah
[7:42] <Orii-pi> not the most powerful but for its size and cost woot
[7:42] <Keridos> yep
[7:42] <Keridos> i do not need full power pcs
[7:42] <Keridos> my main pc has a quite good processor and graphics
[7:42] <Orii-pi> i use the pi for elinks and irssi really
[7:42] <Keridos> i needed something small, low power think
[7:42] <rikkib> I was referring to the need to add stuff to the topic
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[7:47] <Orii-pi> i wish the raspberry pi super computer was more pratical
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[7:48] <EchoFox> mmmhmm
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[7:49] <Orii-pi> i mean its so cool
[7:49] <Orii-pi> but a crap load of sd card corruptions XD
[7:50] <rikkib> Language please
[7:51] <Orii-pi> rikkib: sorry about that....what are refering too?
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[7:52] <rikkib> Management requires that this channel is family friendly
[7:52] <rikkib> I am not management... Just sayin
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[7:52] <Orii-pi> what are you refering to though?
[7:53] <[Saint]> In my experience, those that have sd corruption issues are either using bad hardware (cheap and/or fake sdcards and/or insufficient and/or "noisey" power supplies), or doing silly things with their pi - like excessive overclocking, improper shutdowns, etc.
[7:53] <Orii-pi> i mean what did i say
[7:54] <rikkib> ##raspberrypi_relaxed if you feel the need to chat with relaxed rules
[7:55] <[Saint]> ...says the guy saying Hell earlier. ;)
[7:56] <[Saint]> Ah. Whoops. I misread the nicks. Not neraly as ironic as I thought.
[7:56] <Orii-pi> XD
[7:56] <rikkib> No southern hemisphere to enforce the rules
[7:57] <rikkib> ops
[7:57] <Orii-pi> i mean rikkib ill check my language...but hell and crap....that is PG if that XD
[7:57] <Orii-pi> but i get you
[7:58] <Keridos> hm, is there a way to get a dolby digital / DTS compatible toslink output from the pi somehow?
[7:59] <Keridos> just noticed that my AV receiver does not have hdmi and there do not seem to be good hdmi splitters out there
[7:59] <rikkib> [Saint], Apology accepted....
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[8:00] <Orii-pi> unfortunate when a jab at the irony of the situation backfires
[8:00] <Orii-pi> XD
[8:02] <overrider> omg he said hell
[8:02] <rikkib> +
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[8:03] <rikkib> One starts another joins in soon anarchy
[8:04] <Orii-pi> XD
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[8:10] <pm0001> hi. Is there an easy way to limit bandwith for one interface?
[8:10] <pm0001> wondershaper isn't available for pidora
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[8:11] <[Saint]> well...that's my suggestion down the drain then.
[8:11] <rikkib> iptables
[8:11] <Orii-pi> im sure there is more complicated ways
[8:11] <Orii-pi> XD
[8:11] <Orii-pi> well im passing out
[8:11] <Orii-pi> later everyone
[8:12] <rikkib> Night
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[8:14] <pm0001> hmm iptables sounds too simple :)
[8:15] <rikkib> Easy to find the stuff with google
[8:15] <rikkib> and there are many packages that help
[8:16] <rikkib> ipmasq being one
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[8:16] <rikkib> port sentry another
[8:17] <rikkib> You can be as security conscious as you want
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[8:32] <Keridos> ah ok, i found a device that extracts the audio from hdmi
[8:33] <Keridos> ironically it costs almost the same price as the pi itself :D
[8:33] <Keridos> but well a NAS/FTP/Webserver with media center for about 200 bucks total is awesome :D
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[9:17] <topi`> hi. I set up my RPi as a wireless router according to the instructions from http://elinux.org/RPI-Wireless-Hotspot
[9:17] <topi`> however, when I reboot the Pi, starting dhcp server fails, and this is because wlan0 is not up (and with an ip address)
[9:18] <topi`> but I have "iface wlan0 inet static" and relevant lines in my /etc/network/interfaces and after hostapd runs, the wlan dongle starts to blink. so I'm out of ideas.
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[9:22] <flufmnstr> im not keen on that process, but are you sure teh router is handing the pi the right IP(if any at all)?
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[9:24] <Dyskette> The router? The pi IS the router in that setup, no?
[9:24] <topi`> yup
[9:25] <topi`> the root cause is that the wlan0 does not get its ip
[9:26] <topi`> I was just wondering if anyone else had had encountered this oddity.
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[9:26] <topi`> or maybe it's the hostapd that is at fault
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[9:26] <topi`> but everything works when I hook up a keyboard and run 'sudo ifup wlan0' and then restart hostapd and isc-dhcp-server
[9:26] <topi`> ...until the next reboot
[9:27] <Dyskette> That is strange.
[9:27] <flufmnstr> make a script to run those commands and have it run after boot
[9:28] <flufmnstr> temp fix though
[9:28] <topi`> flufmnstr: I already tried to hack it into rc.local
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[9:28] <topi`> maybe I need to move the start order of isc-dhcp-server to be *after* rc.local
[9:28] <flufmnstr> in my unprofessional opinion, id start looking at boot order
[9:29] <flufmnstr> sounds like something is starting before something else that needs to be started before the first thing starts
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[9:35] <pm0001> topi`: when you setup your wlan device? Is it a script within rc.local?
[9:35] <pm0001> or normaly with the network script?
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[9:36] <topi`> normal networking
[9:36] <topi`> but its very difficult to debug what actually is happening at boot time
[9:37] <topi`> i'd like to see if wlan0 is set up with the correct ip address when networking is being started
[9:37] <flufmnstr> dmesg doesnt report that?
[9:38] <rikkib> dmesg | more
[9:38] <topi`> it won't show whether or not the interface gets an ip addr
[9:38] <flufmnstr> ah
[9:39] <topi`> the dhcp server doesn't care whether the iface is up or not, it just needs to bind to that static ip address
[9:39] <rikkib> check route for default route
[9:40] <topi`> I *know* the wlan0 doesn't have the address, since after boot I login using a keyboard, and run ifconfig wlan0 and no addresses are shown.
[9:41] <rikkib> lsmod is the module loaded
[9:41] <rikkib> add module to /etc/modules
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[9:44] <pm0001> topi`: so what is your entry in /etc/network/interfaces
[9:44] <pm0001> ?
[9:44] <pm0001> when do you assign an ip for wlan?
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[9:50] <Keridos> would ftp access for copying files to a nas with the rpi be faster than samba?
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[9:59] <gordonDrogon> morning
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[10:00] <gordonDrogon> Keridos, in theory - probably as FTP has less protocol overhead than SMB/CIFS - however the bottleneck is still the Pi's SD card (assuming that's where the files are coming from)
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[10:01] <ShorTie> mornin
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[10:05] <Keridos> na i am copying to an usb hard disk
[10:05] <Keridos> the bottleneck should be the ethernet
[10:05] <Keridos> it looks like it is a bit faster with ftp
[10:07] <tig|> 'nings
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[10:08] <gordonDrogon> Keridos, remember there is only one USB interface on the Pi, so Ethernet and USB hard disk share that same path.
[10:08] <Keridos> ah yeah, now i remember, the ethernet runs on the same usb hub
[10:09] <Keridos> but well that is a technical limitation we cannot bypass
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[10:14] <gordonDrogon> no - just something to be aware of.
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[10:20] <ShorTie> need a gpio to sata adapter
[10:21] <InControl> or use a beaglebone
[10:21] <nid0> or a cubieboard
[10:25] <gordonDrogon> gpio to sata would be really really slow.
[10:26] <gordonDrogon> even running the SPI bus at 32Mb/sec is slow.
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[10:35] <BurtyB> ethernet with SPI boost ;)
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[11:30] <treeherder> gordonDrogon, did you ever figure out a way to fix the arduino gpio mod so that it doesn't erase user determined settings on update?
[11:31] <treeherder> like for the 8mhz breadboard chip
[11:31] <gordonDrogon> treeherder, not sure what you're after here, but just drive avrdude directly?
[11:32] <gordonDrogon> or is it something else?
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[11:32] <gordonDrogon> oh, you mean boards.txt & programmers.txt ?
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[11:42] <Keridos> my xbmc on my raspi does not playback h264 mkvs
[11:43] <Keridos> do i need some package to enable that?
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[12:04] <gyeben> hi
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[12:11] <treeherder> <gordonDrogon> oh, you mean boards.txt & programmers.txt ?
[12:12] <treeherder> yes, that's what i mean, sorry for being unclear... it's still like we were tlaking about it recently in my mind... wheras in actuality i haven't been here in a month or more
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[12:20] <gordonDrogon> :)
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[12:21] <gordonDrogon> Oddly enough I'm currently working with a gert board and seeing some issues. My current solution is to run:
[12:21] <gordonDrogon> avrdude -p atmega328p -cgpio -e
[12:21] <gordonDrogon> before using the arduino ide to upload.
[12:21] <treeherder> btw, how do i tell from "cat /etc/*-release" or "uname -a" whether i have raspbian or a more standard debian?
[12:21] <treeherder> i don't see the word raspbian anywhere
[12:21] <treeherder> and i'm on wheezy
[12:21] <gordonDrogon> however I have a new version of avrdude that's 100 times faster for the gertduino & gertboards now.
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> try gcc -v
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> and look atthe outout for --with-fpu=vfp --with-float=hard
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> if you get that, it's Raspbian
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> (I guess/hope!)
[12:22] <treeherder> that worked!
[12:22] <treeherder> thanks
[12:22] <gordonDrogon> the avrdude -e?
[12:23] <gordonDrogon> arduino drives avrdude with the -D flag which tells it to not erase the flash beforehand... this mostly works when your program is growing in size...
[12:27] <treeherder> the gcc -v trick worked...
[12:27] <treeherder> i had everything working great but then i upgraded
[12:27] <treeherder> i'm mostly just concerned with how to get the changes in boarsds.txt to stay
[12:27] <treeherder> boards*
[12:28] <treeherder> brb habenero sauce in my eye
[12:30] <ParkerR> treeherder, ogod
[12:30] <ParkerR> I know that feeling
[12:38] <gordonDrogon> treeherder, yea, me too. it seems they're overwritten every time arduino gets updated without checking for any local changes. I plan to re-release all my arduino stuff for the gert boards in the next few days anyway - it'll be a much simplified fetch script.
[12:38] <gordonDrogon> right. back to the kitchen...
[12:41] <treeherder> aah, good stuff... keep up the good work!
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[13:07] <gyeben> re
[13:08] <ShorTie> ra
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[14:04] <Xabster> I entered the raspberrypi.org's danish store to buy a raspberry and it links to http://raspberrypi.rsdelivers.com/default.aspx?cl=1 -- where is it shipped from? I can't find any information and it's fairly important for me to know due to taxes
[14:06] <linuxstb> Xabster: I'm guessing the UK
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[14:08] <Xabster> yeah, the prices are in GBP
[14:08] <Xabster> so i guess too, but it costs me 160 DKK + 25% of the sales price *more* if it's from the US
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[14:10] <linuxstb> I'm guessing if you go through the purchase process, you'll find information on where it's coming from.
[14:10] <Xabster> also, is this http://raspberrypi.rsdelivers.com/product/rs/4gb-sd-card-with-raspberry-pi-os-installed/7631030.aspx a class 10 SD card?
[14:11] <pksato> Xabster: find a local reseller.
[14:12] <Xabster> yeah
[14:12] <Xabster> i was just checking prices
[14:12] <linuxstb> Xabster: I wouldn't bother with a pre-made SD card, unless you lack the experience/confidence to write an image to one yourself - it's very easy to do, and you will then be sure of the type of card, and the version of the OS
[14:13] <Xabster> indeed, but the other option on the site is a class 6 card
[14:13] <Xabster> i'm gonna take it from this reseller i found, they have class 10 and ships in 2 days
[14:13] <Xabster> official danish reseller they claim
[14:14] <Xabster> it's 150$ (in danish DKK though) to get a decent pack :/
[14:14] <Xabster> heard so much about 35$ board :/
[14:16] <tig|> what?
[14:16] <linuxstb> So it comes with 4 Pis?
[14:16] <gyeben> is that danish reseller a partner of Farnell?
[14:16] <Xabster> don't think so
[14:17] <Xabster> i get a type B, 512, PSU, card, Wi-PI wifi usb, white casing
[14:17] <tig|> I think Farnell and RS are the only two official resellers, everyone else is buying them from those two and reselling as far as I know
[14:17] <gyeben> Xabster: could you share the reseller's website address?
[14:17] <Xabster> 789 DKK now (found a coupon)
[14:17] <Xabster> http://raspberrypi.dk/
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[14:18] <Xabster> linkxs: 1 :(
[14:18] <Xabster> linuxstb*
[14:19] <pksato> US$60 on model B :P
[14:19] <pksato> http://raspberrypi.dk/produkt/raspberry-pi-model-b-512mb-ram/
[14:19] <Dyskette> Ah, they are claiming to be Farnell's official Danish local distributor for RPis.
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[14:21] <Dyskette> So (if they are to be believed) they are a partner of Farnell.
[14:22] <linuxstb> If they are, shouldn't there be a link from Farnell's website?
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[14:22] <Xabster> weren't they supposed to be 35$?
[14:22] <Dyskette> Before taxes.
[14:22] <Dyskette> So 25% moms on top of that.
[14:22] <pksato> but, more cheap that on Brazil, US$75.50 .
[14:22] <Xabster> still not close to 60
[14:22] <Dyskette> And then shipping.
[14:23] <Xabster> getting there...
[14:23] <Dyskette> linuxstb: not necessarily, since Farnell will also ship to Denmark as far as I'm aware.
[14:24] <gyeben> Farnell only sells Pis directly to business users
[14:25] <Dyskette> Really? Because I got one off them as a private individual...
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[14:25] <Dyskette> Don't recall having to game the forms or anything.
[14:26] <nid0> it might differ per country, but farnell are perfectly happy to sell to individuals in the UK
[14:26] * nid0 glances at his most recent order with them not 4 hours ago
[14:29] <nid0> also going back to Denmark, http://raspberrypi.dk/ does appear to be Farnell's pi distributor in denmark and is linked to from farnell's site
[14:31] <gyeben> in Hungary, the local Farnell's reseller's price is 57,68 dollars (+shipping)
[14:32] <gyeben> funny fact, I got my Pi from RS for ~60 dollars, and that included shipping and even RS' transparent case
[14:33] <gyeben> seems like Farnell's resellers like to put a bit too much profit on the prices
[14:37] <Dyskette> My rpi is currently housed in the cardboard box it shipped in with a few holes cut for cables
[14:38] <Dyskette> So in a sense it also came with a case :P
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[15:06] * ChanServ sets mode +o IT_Sean
[15:06] * ChanServ sets mode +o IT_Sean
[15:06] <IT_Sean> Morning everyone
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[15:11] <kai> morning
[15:11] <IT_Sean> Yes. It is, in fact, morning.
[15:11] * kai scratches his head at the node.js gpio module
[15:11] <IT_Sean> -_- 'least it isn't monday
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[15:14] <kai> why does it sometimes fail to fire?
[15:15] <IT_Sean> I have no idea, sorry.
[15:16] <kai> oh well, fine, I'll just write to /sys/devices/virtual/gpio myself then...
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[15:17] <IT_Sean> sorry.
[15:18] <kai> IT_Sean: not your fault. I'm mainly annoyed at the library
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[15:18] <IT_Sean> Darn right it isn't!
[15:18] <kai> and at life in general, of course
[15:18] <kai> :)
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[15:34] <gordonDrogon> re-write it in C and use wiringPi ;-)
[15:34] <gordonDrogon> actually, I think there is a wiringPi for node.js ...
[15:34] * gordonDrogon ponders.
[15:35] <gordonDrogon> https://npmjs.org/package/node-wiringpi
[15:36] <kai> gordonDrogon: I need to drive 3 leds
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[15:36] <kai> gordonDrogon: but that box is not on the internet
[15:36] <kai> so installing extra modules is a bit painful
[15:37] <IT_Sean> ... put it on the internet, install, remove from internet (if necessary)?
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[15:39] <gordonDrogon> kai, right - /sys/class/gpio it is then...
[15:40] <gordonDrogon> you need to be root to open the export device, then to change the values.
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[15:40] <kai> actually, I'll just put the exports in rc.local and chown appropriately
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> that's a good idea.
[15:43] <gordonDrogon> shem you don't have wiringPi installed - the gpio program does all that for you.
[15:47] <kai> for the next system I set up.. :)
[15:49] <gordonDrogon> hopefully getting wiringPi into the raspi deb repository soon.
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[16:06] * IT_Sean responds to tig|'s ticket: Facilities requests can be addressed to HR, not Support.
[16:06] * IT_Sean closes the ticket
[16:06] <tig|> IT_Sean: HR said the kettle has a plug on the end, hence IT
[16:07] * IT_Sean cuts the plug off, thus making it HR's problem again
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[16:08] * tig| raises a ticket with HR over the H&s issue of having no plug on the kettle
[16:08] <InControl> salesman goes out an buys his own kettle but has Euro plug, expects IT to fix it.
[16:09] * Katty cuts power to main building, making it maintenance's job
[16:09] * IT_Sean cuts the plug off, thus solving the issue of the kettle being equipped with the wrong sort of plug
[16:09] * Katty breathes slowly
[16:10] * IT_Sean points out that IT has it's own tea brewing facilities, in the secure server room, and thus is unconcerned with the plight of the lowly users
[16:10] <Katty> users are not lowly
[16:10] <Katty> however they are like herding cats.
[16:11] <Katty> except usually you can herd cats by shaking the treat bottle
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[16:11] <apo_> bottle?
[16:11] <apo_> Your kitteh treat is booze?
[16:11] <InControl> Heath and Safety dept points out tea making facilities are not allowed due to risk of personal injury. Risk assessment must be carried out.
[16:11] <IT_Sean> Katty: You show me a network with packet collisions, and i will show you a network that can do with fewer users!
[16:12] <Katty> i'm a sys admin dear.
[16:12] <Katty> i don't touch networks
[16:12] <Katty> networks are dirty.
[16:12] * IT_Sean points out that HR does not have, nor will ever have access to the server room, and can get stuffed.
[16:12] * Katty shudders
[16:12] <Katty> i was leaving for vacation one morning...
[16:12] <apo_> now there's a thought
[16:12] <Katty> and they called me to reboot a server
[16:12] <apo_> one I don't like very much
[16:12] <Katty> i refused to come in, i was already on vacation
[16:12] <IT_Sean> Katty: I'm support. Hence my feelings about the lowly users
[16:13] <Katty> the owner haded the phone to the Server Manager, and expected me to walk him through rebooting
[16:13] <Katty> i was furiou
[16:13] <Katty> furious
[16:13] <IT_Sean> I'd have hung up.
[16:13] <Katty> i learned my lesson
[16:13] <IT_Sean> Actually, i wouldn't have answered the phone in the first place.
[16:13] <Katty> i turn my radio off when going on vacation now
[16:13] <InControl> Just leave pre-recorded message saying have you tried switching it off and on again.
[16:13] <IT_Sean> Im on vacation. I don't answer the phone.
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[16:13] <Katty> straight to voicemail
[16:13] <Katty> InControl: yes, i do that now
[16:14] <Katty> InControl: emial, desk phone, and work phone
[16:14] <IT_Sean> Have you tried turning it off and on again?
[16:14] <IT_Sean> The button on the side... is it glowing?
[16:14] * Katty squeezes stress ball
[16:14] * IT_Sean places an adorable bunny on Katty's head
[16:14] * apo_ thinks of kittens
[16:15] <Katty> it would be good to go run right now.
[16:15] <IT_Sean> apo_: It is an amazing way to relax.. innit?
[16:15] <IT_Sean> why?
[16:15] <apo_> IT_Sean: it is.
[16:15] <Katty> running always helps
[16:15] <InControl> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtXtIivRRKQ
[16:15] <IT_Sean> are you out of tea again, Katty? Are we in danger?
[16:16] <gyeben> ah, IT Crowd...
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[16:17] <kai> gordonDrogon: ah, in fact I have the quick2wire gpio-admin utility installed
[16:17] <kai> gordonDrogon: that pretty much seems to do the same as the wiringPi gpio tool
[16:17] <tig|> Katty: I was all booked up to fly out to Denmark on holiday and we got an e-mail from the estates service, they were replacing the on site power transformer and there would be an overnight outage until the midday on the day I was flying out
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[16:18] <Katty> IT_Sean: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25951554/2013-07-17%2009.17.07.jpg
[16:18] <tig|> I had to shut the whole site down then bring up the servers, network etc all in a two hour window before zooming off to the airport to get my flight
[16:18] <IT_Sean> ...Good lord woman! You aren't using that for tea, are you!? O_O
[16:19] <Katty> yes.
[16:19] <IT_Sean> :o
[16:19] <Katty> i'm nearly civil.
[16:19] * IT_Sean gets Katty a proper tea containment device
[16:19] <Katty> what's wrong with my blender bottle?!
[16:19] <tig|> in the end I had to leave the site with a co-worker and talk him through the rest of it enroute to the airport and had to stop when I got on the plane
[16:20] * gyeben thinks that nothing's wrong with Katty's blender bottle
[16:20] <Katty> my blender bottle is epic for blending potein shakes
[16:20] <IT_Sean> Katty: It is an offense to tea.
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[16:20] <Katty> and i'm an offence to the female population
[16:20] <Katty> what's your point :P
[16:20] <IT_Sean> HA!
[16:20] <Katty> did you like my knitted mug rug?
[16:20] <Katty> it's garter stitch.
[16:21] <InControl> that sounds like a euphemism.
[16:21] <IT_Sean> 's lovely
[16:21] <Katty> ty
[16:21] <Katty> it was my First Knit ever
[16:21] <IT_Sean> epic.
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[16:21] <Katty> well, it was ko
[16:21] <Katty> it's not...completely even. but who cares!
[16:21] <Katty> i was a KNITTER
[16:23] <IT_Sean> heh
[16:23] <arcanescu> women drink protein shakes :/ ?
[16:23] <Katty> why wouldn't we
[16:23] <arcanescu> ummm but why would you :/
[16:23] <IT_Sean> for the protein
[16:23] <Katty> idk.
[16:23] <IT_Sean> d'uh!
[16:24] <Katty> i don't really need it. it's actually my gentlemen friends
[16:24] <Katty> but i will drink one if i want to!
[16:24] <IT_Sean> Then again... Katty hangs out in here, so... she is probably not your typical female
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[16:24] <Katty> IT_Sean: i've not figured out if that's a good thing, or a bad thing...yet.
[16:24] <arcanescu> IT_Sean: true
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[16:24] <IT_Sean> lol
[16:24] <Katty> IT_Sean: sometimes i wish i was more girly :/
[16:25] <arcanescu> Katty: its not too late
[16:25] <arcanescu> :P
[16:25] <Katty> i just don't care enough, i guess.
[16:25] <Katty> brb
[16:28] <arcanescu> what is this i see: http://www.extremetech.com/computing/161447-99-arm-based-utilite-gives-the-raspberry-pi-some-competition :O
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[16:30] <Katty> IT_Sean: i mean...i rarely wear heels, sometimes tho. most of the time can't be bothered to wear makeup.
[16:30] <gordonDrogon> who cares - it's not a Raspberry Pi.
[16:30] <Katty> IT_Sean: i don't fuss over my nails.
[16:30] <Katty> IT_Sean: when i go to the salon, the girls annoy the crap out of me
[16:30] <IT_Sean> neither do i. what's your point? :p
[16:30] <Katty> you're a boy tho.
[16:30] <IT_Sean> Last i checked, yes.
[16:31] <Katty> boys don't generally wear heels or makeup
[16:31] <IT_Sean> Some do.
[16:31] <Katty> that's why i said generally don't
[16:31] <IT_Sean> I don't! But... some do.
[16:31] <Katty> girls get on my nerves.
[16:31] <Katty> some of them. not all of them.
[16:31] <Katty> i would say more do than don't tho
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[16:32] <arcanescu> gordonDrogon: yea about that... i wouldnt push statement for long...
[16:32] <gordonDrogon> arcanescu, it's still not a Raspberry Pi and never will be.
[16:32] <Katty> IT_Sean: i dated someone who did.
[16:33] <gordonDrogon> arcanescu, its something different. Like the beaglebon black. not a raspberry pi - similar, but different.
[16:33] <Katty> IT_Sean: heels, makeup, the whole enchilada.
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[16:33] <Katty> IT_Sean: can't say i was really into it, but i tried to be accepting...ya know?
[16:34] <arcanescu> gordonDrogon: i know.... but you as you need more power for your apps you might consider a move...
[16:34] <arcanescu> gordonDrogon: the point being .... rpi might simply not suffice - later down the line - bbc micro? hi?
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[16:35] <arcanescu> Katty: guy wearing heels/makeup/?
[16:35] <Katty> yes.
[16:36] <arcanescu> wow....
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[16:36] <Katty> arcanescu: yes it was a bit...odd.
[16:36] <Katty> arcanescu: he didn't tell me until well over a year into the relationship
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[16:36] <arcanescu> Katty: very odd ... but well odd is a case of perspective...
[16:37] <arcanescu> but wow...
[16:37] <IT_Sean> that is odd
[16:37] <arcanescu> Katty: so he had to tell you to that he wears makup heels? -you didnt notice it?
[16:38] <Katty> i was trying to cleanup the closet one afternoon, and there was this big duffle bag, too heavy for me to lift.
[16:38] <Katty> i asked him to come move it, so i could vaccum the closet floor. he never gets in a rush to do ANYTHING, but he came straight away and moved it for me
[16:38] <IT_Sean> Oo
[16:38] <arcanescu> Lol
[16:38] <Katty> i didn't think twice about it, but later found out that's where he kept all his Stuff
[16:38] <IT_Sean> That should have been a clue. :p
[16:39] <arcanescu> >>>secret stuff here <<<<< dont open please
[16:39] <Katty> i'll keep the /how/ i found out about it part to myself, since that's the polite thing to do.
[16:39] <IT_Sean> :(
[16:39] <Katty> but when i found out, i could tell he was very nervous about it...i tried to be as accepting and cool about it as possible.
[16:39] <nid0> I have a box in our wardrobe with "Mystery Box" written on it in bright felt and question marks all over it, my other half isnt allowed in there!
[16:39] <arcanescu> katty: if u dont mind askign where was he from?
[16:40] <Katty> arcanescu: southern missouri, same as me
[16:40] <IT_Sean> nid0: what's in it?
[16:40] <Katty> arcanescu: little further south.
[16:40] <nid0> IT_Sean: for anyone that watches family guy, it could either be a boat or comedy tickets
[16:40] <arcanescu> is it a common trait for men in missouri or just 1 in a bunch kind of a thing?
[16:40] <Katty> he's the only one i've ran into like that.
[16:40] <IT_Sean> nid0: ahh! Damnit! I just saw that episode too!
[16:40] <Katty> well other than the GSA folk, but they don't count
[16:41] <Katty> i don't date folk from GSA.
[16:41] <IT_Sean> arcanescu: it's missouri. Besides crossdressing and abusing drugs, what the heck else is there to do there.
[16:41] * IT_Sean hides
[16:41] <arcanescu> i liek to wear long sleeve shirts over short sleeve shirst over long sleeve shirts * family guy
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[16:41] <arcanescu> IT_Sean: never been there... so thats why i ask
[16:41] <Katty> IT_Sean: anything not 'normal' in the bible belt will put you straight into being an outcast
[16:42] <Katty> IT_Sean: so no,it's not the norm here...by a long shot
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[16:42] <IT_Sean> Right... Mo is also full of bible thumping nutters.
[16:42] <IT_Sean> I'd forgotten that.
[16:42] <Katty> yes.
[16:42] <Katty> and rush supporters.
[16:42] <Katty> rush limbaugh is from my city.
[16:43] <Katty> why couldn't we ahve someone cool. like bill nye.
[16:43] <IT_Sean> I wouldn't admit that, if i were you.
[16:43] <Katty> i don't care.
[16:43] <IT_Sean> lol
[16:43] <Katty> what are they going to do? frown at me?
[16:45] <ShorTie> :(
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[16:47] <ShorTie> na, Mr. Bill is c00l
[16:48] <dieck> hi there! can anyone estimate if the rpi can handle routing with fallback/loadbalancing capabilities and dhcp/dns between 3 (v)lan segments: internal lan, 16/1 Mbit ADSL, 50/10 Mbit VDSL on full load?
[16:49] <ShorTie> rPi snucks as a router
[16:49] <nid0> no
[16:50] <nid0> as in, no it wont do that adequately
[16:50] <gyeben> dieck: I don't think so
[16:50] <IT_Sean> i'm going to go with "no" on that one.
[16:50] <dieck> ok. thanks, then I'll have to find another use for my spare pi, and search for another device for routing :)
[16:50] <nid0> the pi is fairly bad at anything that needs heavy, reliable networking
[16:50] <linuxstb> dieck: Just buy a cheap router - it won't cost much more than a Pi.
[16:50] <Gelb> dieck: get yourself a normal router that allows putting OpenWRT on it.
[16:51] <IT_Sean> dieck: have you thought about... oh i dunno... buying a router?
[16:51] <nid0> if you do want something small, and are happy having a device that only actually has 1 ethernet port, use a beaglebone or cubieboard
[16:51] <atouk> probobly no. better buy a router
[16:51] <nid0> as plenty have said though, an actual router would work better as a router
[16:51] * linuxstb spots a pattern - if you want a router, buy a router...
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[16:52] <dieck> IT_Sean: actually, we have two :), but they won't do OpenWRT, and I have a spare pi, so if it would have worked, why buy another device.
[16:52] <linuxstb> If you're bored, you could try it...
[16:52] <IT_Sean> but, even if it works, it is going to be sloooooow.
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[16:52] <dieck> linuxstb: I like trying stuff, but if there's only very small chance of success, part of the fun is missing :)
[16:53] <Katty> IT_Sean: i should add you to my fb.
[16:53] * LaxWasThere is now known as LaxWasHere
[16:54] <IT_Sean> Katty: with only one or two exceptions, i only fb friend people i know in meatspace
[16:54] <Katty> what's that
[16:54] <nid0> time to make it two or three exceptions then!
[16:55] <arcanescu> O_o IT sean doesnt like virtual freinds
[16:55] <IT_Sean> meatspace.... Not just on the internet. face to face.
[16:55] <Katty> ah, right.
[16:55] <Katty> all good ^_^
[16:55] <IT_Sean> I really only use facebook to keep in touch with friends and family back home.
[16:55] <arcanescu> awwwwwwwww
[16:55] <arcanescu> aint that cute
[16:55] <arcanescu> :P
[16:55] * IT_Sean bounces a bean bag ball of arcanescu's head
[16:56] * arcanescu ouch
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[17:04] <Katty> i have a few people who aren't even on fb
[17:05] <Katty> so i totally understand.
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[17:18] <arcanescu> awwwwwww
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[17:47] * Katty pokes IT_Sean in the rib.
[17:49] * cccyRegeane_Away is now known as cccyRegeaneWolfe
[17:49] <IT_Sean> OW!
[17:50] * IT_Sean pokes Katty in the ear
[17:50] <Katty> such violence.
[17:50] <IT_Sean> you started it!
[17:50] <Katty> i didn't JAB you!
[17:51] <IT_Sean> Neither did i!
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[17:51] <Katty> Well Fine Then!
[17:51] <IT_Sean> INDEED!
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[17:51] * Katty sits with arms crossed.
[17:52] * Katty waits.
[17:52] * IT_Sean gives Katty a bite sized Hershey's Special Dark, then goes back to work
[17:52] * Katty pokes IT_Sean in the rib again.
[17:52] <IT_Sean> OW!
[17:52] <Katty> teehee
[17:52] <IT_Sean> DAMN IT WOMAN! WHAT DO YOU WANT!???
[17:52] * Katty runs off to nukerwave lunch
[17:52] <IT_Sean> I am TRYING to work here!
[17:52] <Katty> to pester you. is it working?
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[17:55] * IT_Sean grumbles
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[17:57] * IT_Sean thinks about baking some brownies
[17:58] <SirLagz> i want some toast.
[17:58] * IT_Sean hands SirLagz a loaf of bread and a butane torch
[17:58] * SirLagz lights it all on fire
[17:58] <SirLagz> oops.
[17:58] <Katty> IT_Sean: i'm going to make brownies too! next week tho.
[17:59] <IT_Sean> Will yours have M&Ms on top?
[18:00] <Katty> no, it will have mousse
[18:00] <Katty> and then whipped cream
[18:01] * cccyRegeane_Away is now known as cccyRegeaneWolfe
[18:01] <Katty> the original recipe is baking brownies, cool. poke holes in the brownies, then cover with chocolate pudding and let chill. then top with whipped cream.
[18:01] <Katty> but i have a whole lot of heavy whipping cream in the fridge leftover from cheesecake, so i'm going to mix it in with homemade chocolate pudding to form a mousse
[18:02] * Katty mixes ketchup and sriracha together for falafel topping
[18:03] <nid0> mmm, whipping cream
[18:03] <nid0> may have to make a batch of irish cream!
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[18:06] <Scriven> ops are allowed to say "Damn It" ...
[18:06] <Katty> Scriven: i was thinking about that earlier.
[18:07] <Scriven> Katty, that recipe sounds yummy btw.
[18:08] <Katty> it's not too shabby. friend of mine made it awhile back.
[18:08] <Katty> box mix tho, not from scratch.
[18:08] <Scriven> scratch FTW.
[18:08] * Scriven can't remember the last time a box was used for baking in the house.
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[18:09] <Katty> Scriven: GOOD
[18:09] <Katty> Scriven: would you like the recipes?
[18:09] <Scriven> please!
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[18:10] <Katty> Scriven: http://42ndrecipestreet.blogspot.com/2011/02/best-brownies.html <- brownie layer
[18:11] <Katty> Scriven: http://allrecipes.com/Recipe/Chocolate-Cornstarch-Pudding/ <- pudding layer.
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[18:11] <Katty> Scriven: i don't really have a recipe for the whipped cream.
[18:11] <Scriven> One of the brownies pictures looks like there are chic peas / garbonzo beans in it. lol
[18:11] <Scriven> Katty, I'd be afraid if you did! :D
[18:12] <Katty> Scriven: 1 C of whipped cream and 1 t of vanilla extra. whip until desired fluffiness has been met.
[18:12] <Scriven> yeah, that's what the stand mixer is for. ;)
[18:12] <Katty> Scriven: those are actually caramel chips
[18:12] <Katty> ah..well. i do it by hand
[18:12] <Scriven> Whip the Cream, Cooking Robot!
[18:12] <Katty> i also put the bowl and the cream in the freezer to chill about 15 minutes prior
[18:12] <Scriven> Yeah, I saw the chips in the ingredients list. ;)
[18:12] <Katty> extra cold means extra fluffy. just FYI
[18:12] <Scriven> Do you use copper?
[18:12] <Katty> no, but copper would work nicely.
[18:13] <Katty> it does chill well
[18:13] <Katty> i have a set of bowls from the 1960s that i use
[18:13] <Scriven> We haven't invested in copper yet, but maybe for my wife's birthday she'll get one.
[18:13] <Scriven> AH, back when stuff was made properly, not disposable! nice!
[18:13] <Katty> oh wait. google says it's 1950s
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[18:13] <Katty> http://img1.etsystatic.com/000/0/6670387/il_fullxfull.324276329.jpg
[18:13] <Scriven> Same reason we use Cast Iron for most of our frying-esque needs.
[18:14] <Scriven> Well, that and the obvious self-defense uses...
[18:14] <Katty> cast iron works really well for some things.
[18:14] <Katty> eggs. bacon. steak.
[18:14] * Scriven is getting hungry again..
[18:14] <Katty> and i love that you can throw it in the oven too
[18:15] <Scriven> yup.
[18:15] <Katty> do you follow foodwishes?
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[18:16] <Katty> it's a video recipe blog.
[18:16] <Scriven> never heard of it.
[18:16] <Scriven> that pudding recipe is nice and simple, love it.
[18:16] <Katty> foodwishes.com
[18:16] <Scriven> no unnecessary crapola in it.
[18:16] <Katty> or you can look up their channel on youtube
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[18:17] <Scriven> cool, tyvm, have bookmarked it.
[18:17] <Katty> http://foodwishes.blogspot.com/2013/06/no-bake-cheesecake-flag-cake-let-your.html <- last thing of his i made
[18:17] <Katty> he's got a lot of things, usually simply done. very tasty.
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[18:18] <Katty> some of my favorites are from him. i also frequent allrecipes.com and i have a couple folks on youtube i follow that don't speak english very well ;)
[18:18] <Katty> one of them goes over the Americanized Chinese style dishes
[18:18] <Katty> kung pao chicken, beef and brocolli, general tso
[18:19] <Katty> i get a lot of recipes from irc folk, too.
[18:19] <Katty> always nice to try things from different areas of the world
[18:20] <Scriven> We like all recipes.com, but try and stick to the 4-5 star recipes. ;)
[18:20] <Scriven> yeah. My wife's Korean, so she's introduced me to lots of different recipes, and I to her.
[18:20] <Katty> you kidding me? i sort by popularity and pick the one with the most reviews :P
[18:20] <Katty> but, quite frankly, some of the foodwishes stuff is just AS good.
[18:20] <Scriven> Granted my 'traditional british/Canadian stuff' isn't as exciting as hers most of the time. lol
[18:21] <Katty> hey i'm down for both!
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[18:21] <Katty> poutine drizzled in kung pao sauce? yes please!
[18:21] <Katty> i was over here putting sriracha on my falafel. i have no shame.
[18:21] <Katty> and i cover pancakes with tamrind sauce
[18:21] <Katty> so... you know.
[18:23] <Scriven> lol!
[18:23] <Scriven> YEah, the mix-and-match can be excellent!
[18:23] <Scriven> Kimchi burgers. ;)
[18:24] <Katty> could be...interesting. never much cared for kimchi myself
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[18:25] <Scriven> There are so many different versions too, and spiciness from none to OMG RING OF FIRE!
[18:25] <Scriven> my wife's grandmothers' kimchi was so hot I coudln't eat it.
[18:26] <Katty> that's the fermented cabbage thing,right?
[18:26] <Katty> cabbage really isn't my thing, unless it's raw..and in a salad of sorts. like ramen noodle salad with sunflower seeds and such
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[18:27] <Scriven> Well, not necessarily cabbage, but yes that's how it's traditionally thought of.
[18:27] <Scriven> My wife does Green onion, garlic, cucumber, some folks do squash too.
[18:27] <Scriven> #yummy
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[18:30] <Katty> Scriven: well, short of kimchi...if you have any other favorite korean or british/canadian dishes...let me know!
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[18:31] <Scriven> I'm boring for most of that. Love me some traditional roast beef w/ yorkshire. Most folks won't do yorkshire properly, alas.
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[18:31] <Scriven> If you're a fan of the red meat, you need to try the korean grilled versions bulgogi and kalbi. Recipes vary, but almost all are yummy.
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[18:32] <Scriven> kalbi IIRC is cross-cut ribs, cut thin then marinated and grilled. Bulbogi is differently cut, still strips, differently marinated yummy meat.
[18:32] <Katty> mmm yorkshire
[18:32] <Katty> that stuff is good in a cast iron pan
[18:33] <Katty> pour on the fresh meat juices and plop it in the oven
[18:33] <Katty> does your wife have a recipe for bulgogi or kalbi?
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[18:36] * Katty finds bulgogi on allrecipes
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[18:36] <shiftplusone> 'morning
[18:37] <Katty> Scriven: this looks like kebab material
[18:37] <[Saint]> you look like kebab material...
[18:37] * [Saint] runs
[18:38] <Orii-pi> *rises from my slumber*
[18:38] <Scriven> Katty, I think she keeps her recipes in her head frankly.
[18:38] <Katty> that's cool. some people are like that.
[18:38] <Scriven> And yes, it's kinda like a kebab, very similar type of stuff.
[18:39] <Scriven> and yeah, yorkshire's best in cast iron. Pour it into the pan you just used to cook the meat, keeping the juices and yummy black bits in there. the pan _MUST_ be smoking hot, and it only takes a few minutes to rise and cook to yummy golden brown perfection.
[18:40] <Scriven> My mom can never quite get it as yummy as my British Grandmother can. ;)
[18:40] <Scriven> Add fresh mint sauce, sop up gravy, consume, repeat.
[18:40] <Katty> grandma probably has more practice.
[18:40] <Katty> and she probably uses fattier meat.
[18:40] <Scriven> oh for sure, but even after 40+ years of marriage she still has yorkshire 'issues' sometimes. lol
[18:41] <Katty> which means more drippings. more flavor
[18:41] <Katty> hehe
[18:41] <Katty> well not everyone is good at that sort of thing
[18:41] <johnc-> you asses are making me hungry
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[18:44] <Scriven> bull-go-gee is as close as I get
[18:44] <Scriven> johnc-, IKR, me too!
[18:44] <Scriven> Maybe we should cook Raspberry pi.
[18:44] * Scriven ducks and covers...
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[18:45] <Scriven> kall-bee
[18:45] <Scriven> the kalbi's nice, cause the little rib bones make excellent handles.
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[18:52] <ShorTie> got my adc current sensor led board workin preaty good .. :)~
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[18:52] <Scriven> ShorTie, link?
[18:52] <ShorTie> need a little fine tuning on the caps
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[18:53] <ShorTie> kinda a a design as you go thingy
[18:54] <Scriven> I've been curious about v/a sensors for my own projects. Want the computers to be fully aware (and log) what's happening, since most of mine will be battery powered.
[18:54] <Scriven> next step would be a lithium-safe charger, but not for years I'm sure.
[18:54] <ShorTie> basically a mcp3008 adc with acs758 current sensor hooked up to a led light bar
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[19:13] <gordonDrogon> cooking is easy.
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[19:15] <IT_Sean> It's like science for hungry people!
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[19:20] <Katty> people are getting on my nerves today
[19:21] <gyeben> Katty: how?
[19:21] <Katty> various reasons.
[19:21] <Katty> maybe i just need some anti-social time
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[19:26] <CeilingKitten> Katty, it's one of those days huh
[19:26] <CeilingKitten> xD lol
[19:26] <CeilingKitten> sometimes i just dislike everyone =)
[19:26] <CeilingKitten> I think you are cranky, because your book ended and you have to talk to real people now
[19:27] * CeilingKitten joking
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[19:30] <Katty> CeilingKitten: i was cranky before my book ended yesterday
[19:30] <Katty> CeilingKitten: but i'm on a new book. and still cranky
[19:30] <Katty> mostly i think i'm cranky because people won't answer me on their tickets. and i'm not allowed to close them without permission
[19:30] * IT_Sean gives Katty a triple chocolate cookie
[19:31] * Katty noms
[19:31] <IT_Sean> Less cranky?
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[19:32] <Katty> no
[19:32] * IT_Sean sighs
[19:32] <IT_Sean> Katty: If you do not cheer up, i will be forced to tickle you silly.
[19:33] <Katty> i can take you on.
[19:33] <IT_Sean> You sure about that?
[19:33] <Katty> yes.
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[19:34] <IT_Sean> Damn.
[19:35] * Katty frowns
[19:35] <Katty> language sir.
[19:37] <IT_Sean> "Damn" is not a swear.
[19:37] <shiftplusone> 'damn' is not a curse outside of Christianity.
[19:37] <IT_Sean> Besides... you are not a channel staffer, Katty.
[19:37] <shiftplusone> neither is hell, but I am told someone was kicked for saying that >=/
[19:38] <IT_Sean> Wasn't me!
[19:38] <IT_Sean> I wouldn't have kicked for "hell"
[19:38] <shiftplusone> Ah, probably Reggie then.
[19:38] <IT_Sean> Also... this is not something that needs discussing in front of the common folk, shift..,.
[19:39] <shiftplusone> idk, I am more with the 'common folk' when it comes to some of these things.
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[19:45] <CeilingKitten> Common folk? IT_Sean you think you are better than us?
[19:45] * CeilingKitten starts a mutiny
[19:45] * CeilingKitten makes more bad jokes
[19:45] <shiftplusone> He does, but that was before he was an op as well =D
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[19:46] <Orii-pi> you guys wont believe what i found inside my pi case
[19:47] <shiftplusone> a pi?
[19:47] <Xark> Orii-pi: A Raspberry Pi?
[19:47] <Orii-pi> hahaha yes.
[19:47] <Orii-pi> but something else!
[19:47] <shiftplusone> a cat?
[19:47] <Orii-pi> im still laughing about it
[19:47] <Orii-pi> i hear this buzzing and i open up my lego case
[19:47] <Orii-pi> and there is a damn fly stuck in there
[19:48] <Orii-pi> flies like pi i guess
[19:48] <shiftplusone> >_<
[19:48] <shiftplusone> close enough
[19:48] <Orii-pi> so i pick him up by the wings and set him outside. my good deed
[19:48] <Xark> Orii-pi: You didn't at least get him his own Model A? :)
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[19:50] <Orii-pi> i want a model a
[19:50] <Orii-pi> sort of
[19:51] <IT_Sean> so... buy one.
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[19:51] <shiftplusone> or remove the ethernet chip from your model B and turn into a 512mb model A
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[19:55] <Orii-pi> i have a model a with a ethernet chip XD
[19:55] <Orii-pi> the original model b
[19:55] <Orii-pi> it sucks i got the original just when the new revision came out
[19:56] <shiftplusone> same here
[19:56] <shiftplusone> though I caved and bought a new model b
[19:56] <Orii-pi> i have a new one also
[19:56] <Gelb> i didn't even use the full 256mb of ram ever, so i didn't care much. i found it more important that they added holes.
[19:56] <Orii-pi> the old one is a home theater system for my dad
[19:57] <Orii-pi> yeah the holes are indeed nice
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[19:57] <debian-n00b> /msg nmlugb0t hello
[19:57] <shiftplusone> O_o
[19:57] <debian-n00b> lol
[19:57] <debian-n00b> opps
[19:57] <shiftplusone> heh
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[20:07] <gordonDrogon> what's a popular I2C based RTC that people use on the Pi?
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[20:10] <wroberts1> i wonder if wiringPi lets to set an output pin as an input (change direction)
[20:10] <wroberts1> or if you must call gpio script
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[20:12] <gordonDrogon> wroberts1, you can chang direction inside wiringPi trivially.
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[20:12] <gordonDrogon> however you need to be runing as root and use a setup function other than wiringPiSetupSys ()
[20:13] <gordonDrogon> ie.. wiringPiSetup(), wiringPiSetupGpio() or wiringPiSetupPhys(). Then you just use the pinMode() function.
[20:13] <gordonDrogon> and a popular RTC appears to be the ds1307.
[20:15] <kaste> Has anyone here done semi accurate measurements of how much power a pi draws? I seem to clock in with .8 Watt, but that seems low.
[20:15] <kaste> that's idle, pushes up to 3 Watts with the gpu under load, Not sure if load on the arm actually makes it draw more power
[20:16] <wroberts1> ok thanks. cant run as root. i guess i must exec gpio script
[20:17] <Xark> kaste: When I had mine on my instrumented power supply, IIRC it was about 600mA when GPU+CPU busy.
[20:18] <kaste> that seems to coincide
[20:18] <kaste> did you by chance measure without gpu load?
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[20:19] <Xark> I did, but this was a while ago (and didn't keep good records). I believe the GPU was the main draw (but CPU busy made a small diff).
[20:19] <kaste> Thank you
[20:19] <Xark> I hacked spinning fractal cube to render N times a frame (for 100% GPU load).
[20:20] <kaste> hehe :)
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[20:25] <gordonDrogon> wroberts1, that's the only way for now.
[20:25] <gordonDrogon> wroberts1, any reason not to run as root?
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[20:27] <Dooley> Good evening
[20:27] <ricksl> anyone do anything with pi underclocking? to lower power and all.
[20:28] <wroberts1> i have a select() on stdin, which malfunctions as root
[20:28] <Dooley> I have received my pi, and started playing with it. If I want to develop and application with a GUI in python, do I have to do go through VNC or is there any other way?
[20:28] <Dooley> VNC is way too darn slow
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[20:28] <ricksl> ssh with x forwarding, i don't know how to do that though
[20:29] <wroberts1> gordonDrogon: i use this is_ready() http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1594251/how-to-check-if-stdin-is-still-opened-without-blocking
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[20:34] <Dooley> It works <ricksl> !
[20:34] <Dooley> Thank you so much
[20:34] <ricksl> now you got me trying to get it working via putty
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[20:34] <Dooley> I would have felt so sad to leave my shell with vim
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[20:35] <Dooley> i just started gimp from ssh
[20:35] * Katty seethes quietly
[20:35] * Katty gnashes teeth
[20:35] <Dooley> I am using Xming
[20:36] <Katty> IT_Sean: no, i'm not a channel staffer.
[20:36] <Katty> IT_Sean: but i also don't agree with holding a double standard.
[20:36] <IT_Sean> oooooh... did i hit a sore point!?
[20:37] <IT_Sean> There is no double standard, Katty.
[20:37] <Katty> no, the sore point was when i was on the phone with a client, and someone just walked into my office talking, with two other people who wanted to "meet me"
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[20:37] <IT_Sean> ooooh
[20:37] <Katty> no consideration.
[20:37] <Katty> what-so-ever.
[20:37] <IT_Sean> Yeah, that would irritate me.
[20:37] <Katty> and no. no i DON"T want to meet whoeveritis.
[20:37] <johnc-> fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight fight
[20:37] <Dooley> Hey guys, if anyone is looking for a small screen for his/her pi, check this out: http://www.ebay.de/itm/121004607232?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649
[20:38] <Katty> it would be nice if they would have the common sense to see if i'm on the phone before they start talking.
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[20:38] <Katty> or if i'm BUSY on a ticket, which i usually am.
[20:38] <Katty> But, no. they're too high up on the food chain.
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[20:38] <IT_Sean> Katty: That sucks.
[20:38] <Katty> they just stood there. quietly.
[20:38] <Katty> for 15 minutes.
[20:38] <IT_Sean> did you make "go away" shooing motions with your hands?
[20:39] <Katty> i can tell when someone is staring at me. it is horridly uncomfortable.
[20:39] <Katty> of course not. i'm too polite for that.
[20:39] * IT_Sean doesn't believe that for a minute. :p
[20:39] <Katty> and to make it worse, mister 60-something-year old felt the need to wink at me on the way out.
[20:39] <Katty> REALLY?!
[20:39] <IT_Sean> eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew
[20:39] <Katty> GTFO of my office.
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[20:40] <johnc-> get the hell out instead?
[20:40] <Katty> IT_Sean: good call.
[20:40] <Katty> IT_Sean: i appreciate the non-double standard.
[20:40] * Katty seethes anyway.
[20:41] <Katty> also, that appears to be my third infraction.
[20:41] <Katty> IT_Sean: please ban me. no double standard.
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[20:42] <IT_Sean> Bans are at the staff descretion after the 3rd. Not required. As that was a minor infraction, i'm giving you one more chance
[20:42] <shiftplusone> afaik we don't ban for minor things like that
[20:42] <Katty> i'm sure all my infractors are minor. and the rules are the rules.
[20:42] <IT_Sean> They are, and i am following them to the letter.
[20:42] <johnc-> da rules*
[20:42] <IT_Sean> Next time, it will be a ban.
[20:43] <Katty> ReggieUK will disagree with you.
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[20:43] <IT_Sean> I am following the staff manual to the letter, Katty. Relax. Just mind the language.
[20:44] <johnc-> it's a bit tense in here
[20:44] <johnc-> everybody should get a hot cocoa or something
[20:44] <Katty> i'm just trying to get him to do his job :P
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[20:45] <IT_Sean> Katty: you want a ban? really?
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[20:46] <Katty> no need (= i'll save you the trouble.
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[20:46] <IT_Sean> ...
[20:46] <IT_Sean> :(
[20:49] <johnc-> hooray for drama
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[20:49] <Space_Man> [19:44] <johnc-> everybody should get a hot cocoa or something
[20:49] <leming> you could always just decide to not run the channel like a pre-teen AOL safe zone
[20:49] <Space_Man> an ice cream would be better
[20:49] <m3tti> hi there
[20:50] <shiftplusone> ahoy, m3tti
[20:50] <m3tti> i'm new here
[20:50] <m3tti> i love my pi
[20:51] <m3tti> anyone knows why wmmixer do changes my alsa mixer settings so that i couldn't here anything
[20:51] <johnc-> I love mine too
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[20:52] <ricksl> I got gimp working dooley! any idea how to remotely forward a desktop?
[20:52] <m3tti> ricksl, use vncserver
[20:52] <m3tti> ricksl, or x11vnc
[20:52] <ricksl> i am trying to use putty and xming
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[20:57] <steve_rox> anything interesting going on?
[20:57] <johnc-> not since Katty left
[20:58] <steve_rox> oh
[20:58] <gyeben> I have tried to use ebindkeys to configure my multimedia keyboard's extra buttons, and I have noticed something interesting: pressing two of those extra buttons outputs the ~ character into terminal (even without ebindkeys)
[20:58] <gyeben> what's happening? more details: http://pastebin.com/pDA0AQUp
[20:59] <steve_rox> i need to think of more rpi ideas
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[21:04] <steve_rox> not entirely easy
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[21:05] <johnc-> mine is currently getting code added to shutdown my office computers and wake them up (via WOL) on a timer :)
[21:06] <ricksl> i am trying to get a good emulation system running on my pi
[21:06] <Dooley> going to build a small eather display for the house
[21:06] <Dooley> weather*
[21:07] <ricksl> the prepackaged images for retropie suck, and chameleon is still a wip. Trying to track down optimized emulators is the hardest part.
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[21:07] <IT_Sean> Dooley: Use an epaper display, and hang it on the wall. It'll look awesome.
[21:07] <Dooley> epaper display?
[21:07] <IT_Sean> yes
[21:07] <IT_Sean> epaper
[21:07] <Dooley> do you have a link by any chance?
[21:08] <IT_Sean> Sure do! http://www.google.com
[21:08] <ricksl> aren't they expensive still?
[21:08] <IT_Sean> You haven't heard of eink?
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[21:08] <IT_Sean> ricksl: Not if you salvage one out of a dead kindle or something.
[21:08] * SpeedEvil stabs.
[21:09] <ricksl> ya know what is a great display, apple ipad retina displays, they are cheap too if you know where to source them from.
[21:09] <IT_Sean> SpeedEvil!?
[21:09] <SpeedEvil> Stupid e-ink people.
[21:09] <IT_Sean> !
[21:09] <SpeedEvil> Not selling small quantities.
[21:09] <IT_Sean> Oh
[21:09] <IT_Sean> Yeah.
[21:09] <IT_Sean> That.
[21:09] <johnc-> heh
[21:10] <SpeedEvil> Also - lack of documentation on the CSI port, or likelyhood of it ever existing.
[21:10] <johnc-> I'm using the basic nook model as an eink interface
[21:10] <SpeedEvil> Otherwise - Piipad here we come.
[21:10] <IT_Sean> too many is. Pipad is better
[21:10] <SpeedEvil> (Possibly not the newwest version)
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[21:19] <m3tti> anyone else is using the pi as main pc
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[21:26] <steve_rox> not really
[21:26] <steve_rox> i dunno
[21:27] <IT_Sean> I have mine on the network for SSHing into and playing with
[21:27] <IT_Sean> But, i do not use it as a full desktop
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[21:27] <johnc-> to do so would be to throw yourself back into 1992
[21:28] <steve_rox> unless you used dosbox for win95?
[21:28] <steve_rox> ;-)
[21:28] <Encrypt> It's the same for me (SSH & using it as a server)
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[21:29] <johnc-> mine are scattered around my home as "
[21:29] <johnc-> "nodes"
[21:29] <johnc-> for home automation work
[21:29] <steve_rox> mine also hosts a mumble server for my friends
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[21:32] <steve_rox> i want to learn how to control relay boards at some point
[21:33] <RiXtEr> steve_rox: its pretty easy, hook up your relay board to gpio X and then gpio X 1
[21:33] <RiXtEr> (iirc)
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[21:33] <steve_rox> yeah ive not really messed with gpio yet apart from that law breaking radio transmitter
[21:34] <IT_Sean>
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[21:34] <TecSatan> i mainly use my pi's as a cheap media centre so i cna have one in each room fo the house... but then also as a VPN gateway back into the network and i am currently working on an in-cam camara system for a rally i am doign around europe
[21:34] <steve_rox> i could get a relay board off ebay but after that i wouldent know what to do
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[21:38] <ricksl> Oh you mean wspr?
[21:38] <steve_rox> no ideaa
[21:39] <steve_rox> wonder if you could setup a vpn on rpi so when you connected a client to it would route traffic thu the tor network
[21:39] <steve_rox> its been done with wifi i think
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[21:40] <TecSatan> steve_rox you cna setup a VPN server on the pi easy enough and then route the traffic wherever you like. I just sue it as a route back onto my network so i can ssh or rdp back to a machine as needed.
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[21:40] <steve_rox> i once did setup a vpn on my rpi
[21:41] <steve_rox> kinda interesting
[21:46] <johnc-> I want to learn how to setup my pi to control my AC
[21:46] <johnc-> not easy to do in a rented apartment lol
[21:47] <SpeedEvil> Quite easy.
[21:47] <johnc-> do tell
[21:47] <SpeedEvil> A small peltier device stuck over the thermostat
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[21:48] <steve_rox> they use lot of power if i rember right
[21:48] <ricksl> I want to leave a pi in a starbucks or someplace with free wifi and have it bounce internet traffic through that.
[21:48] <SpeedEvil> Not a lot compared to an AC.
[21:48] <ricksl> maybe disguise it as an air freshener plugged into the wall, like those pwnplugs.
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[21:49] * johnc- is lost
[21:49] <steve_rox> i wonder if a rpi could turn on a atx psu without a relay
[21:49] <johnc-> why would it need to?
[21:50] <steve_rox> cos turning things on and off is cool :-P
[21:50] <johnc-> wake on lan :)
[21:50] <pksato> one npn and resistor power on main part of atx psu.
[21:50] <ricksl> someone did that
[21:50] <ricksl> i remember reading about it on HAD i think.
[21:50] <SpeedEvil> a transistor is sane.
[21:50] <SpeedEvil> And will work.
[21:50] <steve_rox> ah , i have a spare atx psu here
[21:50] <pksato> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgFh6yLe6Os&feature=c4-overview&list=UU8yk0zzpUQu-yDpBZwvuoYA
[21:51] <SpeedEvil> Just collector of a NPN transistor to ground, the switch wire to collector, and base through a 1K resistor to teh GPIO
[21:52] <steve_rox> may be a interesting vid thanks
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[21:55] <pksato> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDdpY8GT-_c&feature=share&list=UU8yk0zzpUQu-yDpBZwvuoYA
[21:55] <SpeedEvil> What I want to connect my Pi to.
[21:55] <SpeedEvil> https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=xb6BoaB-atQ#t=57s
[21:56] <steve_rox> with some relay control maybe i could hook a rpi into a old RC car
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[21:57] <lord4163> Hello
[21:57] <steve_rox> hello
[21:57] <steve_rox> nice jet thingy vid
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[22:01] <lord4163> So is it normal if you reboot your filesystem crashes?
[22:02] <IT_Sean> No.
[22:02] <IT_Sean> That is not normal.
[22:02] <IT_Sean> Are you shutting down properly? or just unplugging?
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[22:03] <maxinux> grr i wish i could convince my gf of that.. she refuses to shutdown the mame cabinet.. just pulls the power
[22:03] <maxinux> shes a sysadmin though.. so it will just take corruption happening...
[22:03] <IT_Sean> lord4163: are you shutting down properly, or just unplugging?
[22:03] <lord4163> IT_Sean: sudo reboot
[22:03] <IT_Sean> That should not cause FS corruption
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[22:04] <lord4163> IT_Sean: So what's the problem? My SD card is bad? It's new 32GB kingston or sandisk don't know only had raspbian on it
[22:04] <IT_Sean> It could be a bad SD, or a corrupt file system. Have you tried to re-image the carD?
[22:05] <IT_Sean> are you overclocked?
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[22:05] <lord4163> IT_Sean: No haven't tried to re-image, and no not overclocked, it's running on all stock settings actually
[22:06] <IT_Sean> Could have been a fluke. Or a bum card.
[22:06] <IT_Sean> Got a good power supply?
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[22:12] <lord4163> IT_Sean: yeah I hope so the one from RS Online
[22:13] <IT_Sean> What's the rating onnit?
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[22:13] <wroberts1> http://foaas.herokuapp.com/
[22:13] <lord4163> IT_Sean: Ehm
[22:14] <IT_Sean> ... on the label, it should say 5v #ma. What's the #?
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[22:14] <lord4163> I thought it was 1200mA
[22:14] <shiftplusone> wroberts1, why on Earth would you link that in a family friendly channel? O_o
[22:15] <IT_Sean> That should be fine, then.
[22:15] <lord4163> IT_Sean: yep, 1.2A
[22:15] <IT_Sean> That should be fine, then.
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[22:15] <IT_Sean> Reimage the card, and hope it doesn't happen again is my recommendation.
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[22:18] <lord4163> IT_Sean: Have had it before so it may be caused by that but that's a looong time ago and haven't any issues with it after fixing that filesystem errors
[22:18] <IT_Sean> I really do not know what caused it. sorry.
[22:21] <lord4163> IT_Sean: I've got a really small IRC channel and log that, but that couldn't have caused it right?
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[22:21] <lord4163> Total log is around 4000 lines
[22:21] <IT_Sean> Probably not.
[22:22] <IT_Sean> It may have just been a slightly iffy card.
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[22:25] <lord4163> IT_Sean: Could I get a new card?
[22:25] <lord4163> IT_Sean: warranty?
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[22:27] <IT_Sean> ... you just need to reimage it, lord4163.
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[22:27] <lord4163> IT_Sean: ok transmission is busy :P
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[22:28] <johnc-> hmm
[22:29] <johnc-> can the camera boards be used as a video input like a webcam or processing through ffmpeg?
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[22:30] <IT_Sean> the camera board does not have a video gazinta. No.
[22:32] <johnc-> :/
[22:33] <johnc-> I was hoping to use it to scan barcodes, any suggestions besides a webcam?
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[22:41] <gordonDrogon> you can take static photos with it - the issue would be knowing when to.
[22:41] <linuxstb> johnc-: The camera board should be able to scan barcodes. At least from a hardware point of view.
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[22:46] <johnc-> gordonDrogon: running the program from the shell is when it should take the photo
[22:46] <johnc-> I guess photos would work
[22:46] <johnc-> I only need like 4 frames per second or w/e for good barcode scanning I imagine
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[22:47] <johnc-> quality of image is important though and webcams suck for that
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[22:51] <gordonDrogon> the othe issue is the ARM processor's processing time to identify the barcode in the image and decode it.
[22:52] <johnc-> maybe and maybe not
[22:52] <johnc-> if it's slow I'm going to offload it to a server
[22:52] <gordonDrogon> You'll have an image 1920x1080 to analyse, although I guess the current gen. of smartphones can decode barcodes ok with something written in java (although I don't know if they can use the phones gpu or not)
[22:52] <shiftplusone> Considering a G1 phone could easily scan barcodes with its camera just fine, I don't think the pi should have any trouble (if that's what the conversation is about)
[22:53] <johnc-> I imagine it'll work fine on the pi itself without offloading it though
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[22:55] <SpeedEvil> You generally don't need to deal with the whole image.
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[22:55] <SpeedEvil> Just - for example - do 10 diagonal strips each way.
[22:56] <johnc-> I have a library that does the work for me
[22:56] <SpeedEvil> That's about 25000 pixels long, not 2 million
[22:56] <SpeedEvil> Many of the libraries do things like this
[22:56] <johnc-> they strip out color detail and go monochrome too
[22:57] <johnc-> better for detection !
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[22:58] <_u2pop_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e2YtARzJTys
[22:58] <_u2pop_> Enjoy It :)
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[23:00] <johnc-> wonder what he's using for speech recognition
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[23:04] <atouk> http://madebynathan.com/2013/07/10/raspberry-pi-powered-microwave/
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[23:05] <atouk> pockey sphynx
[23:05] <atouk> or something similar but spelled correctly
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[23:09] <johnc-> I need to know more electronics
[23:10] <savid> I find the wiki docs on flashing raspbian pretty funny. It has paragraphs upon paragraphs of how-to's for beginners, and buried down at the very bottom is the whole "OMG advanced user only!", which essentially boils down to: "dd if=raspbian.img of=/dev/sdb bs=4M".
[23:10] <Arbos1> hmm I'm looking to use remote torrent webclient on my rpi, transmission and deluge both look quite nice, any recommendation?
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[23:14] <CeilingKitten> Arbos, i like rtorrent, but if you go with transmission on google code you can get transgui, which is basically a tray app for windows machines that looks like the actual app is running locally, pretty slick if you hate webui's and you can set it to open .torrent files on your pc like you would with a local client. Deluge has a Deluge-Thinclient now too that appears to be a similiar type of thing. There is also BTSync av
[23:14] <CeilingKitten> ailable for pi, If you feel like being unique, there is numerous other clients available (apt-cache search torrent )
[23:15] <CeilingKitten> If you just want to share files between friends #ShareFest is a new up and coming Server WebUI that offlines all the tracking and filehashing to the clients and uses WebRTC so you can use chrome or firefox to share and the speeds are great since it stays true to the swam architecture
[23:16] <CeilingKitten> offloads* not offlines lol
[23:16] <shiftplusone> savid, sure, it's likely that people who don't know how to image an sd card may have trouble identifying the right device name and the last thing you want is to have people write the image to their hard drive. So, while the guide IS for beginners, they should proceed without caution.
[23:16] <shiftplusone> *with >_<
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[23:17] <CeilingKitten> Everyone that is a newbie is just one step away from a rm -rf joke =| too
[23:18] <savid> I think there's more value in teaching someone to use the cli, personally. I hate that commandline is always touted as being for black-belt users only.
[23:18] <shiftplusone> Arbos, I second rtorrent since it's very light and flexible. It's easy to control through ssh, but there are web frontends available as well.
[23:19] <Arbos1> Thanks CeilingKitten/shiftplusone, elaborate answer
[23:19] <CeilingKitten> there is atleast 4 or 5 different webui's available. rutorrent (uTorrent clone) being somewhat popular
[23:19] <Arbos1> will a webclient be very sluggish or would it be quite smooth to work with?
[23:19] <shiftplusone> savid, sure, there there is nothing worse than saying "look, it's easy!" while pointing to something the user is clueless about. I have seen people driven off by that plenty of times.
[23:20] <Orii-pi> so for some reason when i press the scoll lock button it hides my text
[23:20] <Orii-pi> and when i press it again it shows it all
[23:21] <savid> Yeah I suppose you could be right. I guess I've just been comfortable with cli for so long.
[23:21] <shiftplusone> Orii-pi, Who presses scroll lock these days? =P
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[23:22] <Orii-pi> it activates the keyboard backlight on this keyboard (retarded right?)
[23:22] <shiftplusone> oh, heh
[23:23] <Orii-pi> i just want to look cool :'( is that too much too ask?
[23:23] <Orii-pi> XD
[23:23] <shiftplusone> To be honest, I'd have to google to remember what scroll lock even does.
[23:23] <Orii-pi> i mean it will turn on the light
[23:23] <Orii-pi> but it will not show text at all
[23:23] <Orii-pi> here check this out
[23:23] <shiftplusone> If you're leet enough for a backlight, you don't need to see the text, you know what's there, right?
[23:23] <Orii-pi> everything im typing i can not see because i just put scolll lock on
[23:24] <shiftplusone> is this irssi?
[23:24] <johnc-> I hit scroll lock all the time on my damn laptop
[23:24] <Orii-pi> i think it holds all the keystrokes in
[23:24] <johnc-> stupid keyboard
[23:24] <Orii-pi> then as i press it again it just types it all
[23:24] <Orii-pi> weird man
[23:24] <Orii-pi> so weird
[23:24] <gordonDrogon>
[23:24] <Orii-pi>
[23:24] <gordonDrogon> scroll lock doesn't do anything.
[23:25] <Orii-pi> gordonDrogon: for me it does
[23:25] <Orii-pi> it hates us
[23:25] <shiftplusone> Orii-pi, are you sure it's not a feature of whatever you're using... like a privacy thing you press before leaving the computer?
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[23:25] <gordonDrogon> maybe it's your distro - one that's actually added a use for it. it can be read in software - has a valid scan code.
[23:26] <gordonDrogon> generally to stop scrolling output, push Ctrl-S
[23:26] <gordonDrogon> but taht only really works in terminals
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[23:27] <shiftplusone> "Pressing the Scroll Lock key in the Linux console while text is scrolling through the screen freezes the console output (but not input)—during the duration of the freeze no further text is printed on the screen. When Scroll Lock is pressed again the screen is unfrozen and all text generated during the freeze is printed at once."
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[23:28] <CeilingKitten> Arbos1, most webclients will give you the chance to set an update speed on the stats, i usually tell it to only update on page refresh otherwise you are actively polling all your torrents for info about peers, speeds, tracker messages, etc,. WebUI's don't have to be slow, but even with a good connection the Pi is not a fast machine. I believe the webprocess for the UI will go idle and return the resources to the system w
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[23:28] <CeilingKitten> hen you close the window or end the session. I would say give them all a try if you are very unsure. I'd suggest rtorrent with rutorrent webui, or transmission with transgui. Don't expect it to have more then a few actively transeferring torrents at a time thoughthough.
[23:28] <gordonDrogon> well I'll be stacked sideways.
[23:28] <gordonDrogon> Try shift-scroll-lock too..
[23:30] <Arbos1> thanks thanks alot CeilingKitten, I think rutorrent/rtorrent looks like a nice way to go, thank you
[23:32] <shiftplusone> Arbos1, I had rtorrent and owncloud for a while running on my my: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/175702/owncloud.png
[23:32] <shiftplusone> (wouldn't recommend owncloud, but rutorrent worked great)
[23:32] <CeilingKitten> shiftplusone, i just did an owncloud install, aah nvm ahaha its griefing you too
[23:33] <nid0> owncloud works just fine on a pi
[23:33] <shiftplusone> bah, I tried nginx and all kinds of php accelerators, but had no luck getting it to a usable state.
[23:34] <CeilingKitten> nid0 was there anything you changed or disabled in owncloud itself for better performance?
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[23:34] <CeilingKitten> im running owncloud on nginx using petrock's install script. The webui hangs when i attempt to import a .vcf file
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[23:35] <CeilingKitten> i doubt id ever use owncloud other than for calendar/contacts. Looking to a nice FOSS alternative to google's grubby paws =)
[23:35] <gordonDrogon> do not under any circumstances try control + shiftlock.
[23:35] <nid0> no, at the time I was running a relatively default AMP install, I may or may not have been using APC when I had owncloud running
[23:35] <CeilingKitten> its not sync'ing contact changes either =|
[23:35] <nid0> mysql was obviously configured properly rather than just a default install
[23:36] <Orii-pi> shiftplusone: i thought of that too but it is meant to turn on the leds
[23:36] <CeilingKitten> im using sqlite
[23:36] <nid0> running from SD?
[23:36] <CeilingKitten> sadly yes at the moment
[23:36] <CeilingKitten> were you usb booting?
[23:37] <CeilingKitten> changes to the webpage require me to ctrl+f5 multiple times before they show up, like creating a folder =\
[23:37] <nid0> no, usb would actually be worse - I ran owncloud a number of ways including from SD and loading wholly from ram, but at least using some form of query caching will help
[23:38] <CeilingKitten> i might try NFS Booting the pi one day
[23:38] <nid0> fwiw, iscsi performs better
[23:38] <nid0> but is obv more setup
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[23:42] <CeilingKitten> well i got a laptop with a almost dead battery, i could always make that into a low powered owncloud setup. It hardly seems stable on the pi with nothing else running (512mb)
[23:42] <CeilingKitten> that or my setup is a lemon
[23:43] <nid0> is your install punlic atm?
[23:43] <nid0> public*
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[23:43] <CeilingKitten> Lan
[23:43] <CeilingKitten> not public
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[23:47] <CeilingKitten> Im accessing it off the same router and changes like a new folder, move contacts into said folder, nothing press F5, timeout instantly wait a minute F5 again can see folder now but none of the contacts were moved. It's finally sync'd to my phone though =]
[23:48] <CeilingKitten> i figure i might play around a for a bit hen prolly put it on the laptop, im idling #owncloud for now =]
[23:48] <CeilingKitten> Thanks for your ideas though =)
[23:50] <nid0> just reinstalling it to one of my pi's now
[23:50] <nid0> I assume you're using v5?
[23:52] <CeilingKitten> I installed from a script that pulled from GIT i believe im just doublechecking
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[23:58] <CeilingKitten> latest release
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