#raspberrypi IRC Log


IRC Log for 2013-07-20

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[0:01] <plugwash> The diff we needed to build the debian ghc package for raspbian can be found at http://debdiffs.raspbian.org/main/g/ghc/ghc_7.4.1-3+rpi1.debdiff
[0:03] <juliend> why compil ghc on raspbian ? it already compiled
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[0:05] <shiftplusone> juliend, I had everything set up for arch, so I thought ghc would be trivial to compile and install.
[0:05] <shiftplusone> I've just switched to raspbian though... no point re-inventing the wheel.
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[0:07] <shiftplusone> And I am running into the same problem as you, since my cross-compiling setup (scratchbox2) uses qemu for some things
[0:07] <johnc-> anybody know how I can disable the desktop environment but still run X on startup?
[0:08] <johnc-> I wanna drop the desktop environment and just run a single fullscreen GTK app on startup
[0:08] <shiftplusone> I'd roll my own .xinitrc and modify inittab accordingly.
[0:08] <plugwash> mmm, we native build stuff for raspbian but we have the luxury of having armv7 hardware available
[0:09] <plugwash> which means we can use debian armhf stuff to break build dependency loops
[0:10] <shiftplusone> ah, nice
[0:10] <shiftplusone> johnc-, this sort of thing http://www.shellperson.net/autostart-x-without-gdm/
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[0:11] <ShorTie> doesn't kdm control what desktop you go into
[0:11] <juliend> i'm not understand all... and it's possible to create gitit deb package for raspbian ? gitit deb exist on debian
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[0:13] <johnc-> shiftplusone: so, I should use raspi-config to disable the desktop environment and start from that guide, changing it how I need to?
[0:13] <shiftplusone> johnc-, yeah, but that guide says to switch to mingetty, for some reason, which I don't think you need to do.
[0:13] <plugwash> juliend, it looks like the version of gitit currently in wheezy and jessie doesn't support arm and the version in sid is blocked from migrating to jessie by the ghc transition
[0:13] <shiftplusone> it was just the first thing that popped up in google.
[0:14] <plugwash> gitit will probablly be in raspbian jessie eventually but I can't give you any ETA, it depends on how long it takes the debian ghc transition to complete, then how long it takes us to beat the new ghc into shape for raspbian etc
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[0:15] <shiftplusone> johnc-, the autologin section is better here http://elinux.org/RPi_Debian_Auto_Login
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[0:15] <johnc-> I can't even find how the pi is starting lxde currently
[0:15] <johnc-> if it's part of startx or not
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[0:15] <shiftplusone> johnc-, currently, it's using lightdm
[0:15] <plugwash> The raspberry pi foundation raspbian image uses lightdm
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[0:15] <johnc-> well I can't see how it's starting that then :P
[0:16] <shiftplusone> johnc-, normal init script
[0:16] <shiftplusone> /etc/init.d/lightdm probably
[0:16] <juliend> plugwash: oh yes, I have not check plateforme... i just see gitit exist,I forget arm :-)
[0:16] <Q48VW> Hey dudes, I've been having some problems with my Pi, more specifically with wifi.
[0:17] <juliend> plugwash: raspbian have stable and testing repository? maybe unstable ? and find gitit in unstable repository ?
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[0:17] <johnc-> alright, thanks for the pointers :)
[0:18] <shiftplusone> johnc-, you can disable it in raspi-config, do the auto-login thing here http://elinux.org/RPi_Debian_Auto_Login, then start from step 2 here http://www.shellperson.net/autostart-x-without-gdm/ , but modify as you need to
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[0:19] <shiftplusone> in step 2 change /dev/tty6 to /dev/tty1 to match the elinux instructions
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[0:23] <Q48VW> shiftplusone, do you know about wireless configurations on the Pi?
[0:24] <shiftplusone> Q48VW, not on raspbian
[0:24] <dagerik> Q48VW: wifi-menu
[0:24] <shiftplusone> wifi-menu is an arch thing
[0:24] <Q48VW> -bash: wifi-menu: command not found
[0:24] <dagerik> state ur distro
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[0:25] <shiftplusone> Q48VW, is your wifi stick detected and working properly?
[0:25] <johnc-> shiftplusone: any personal recommendations for a wm?
[0:25] <shiftplusone> johnc-, I am a fan of openbox
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[0:26] <Q48VW> shiftplusone, yeah.
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[0:27] <Q48VW> dagerik, wheezy
[0:27] <shiftplusone> Q48VW, there is a utility that will sort of do it for you on the desktop "WiFi Config"
[0:27] <shiftplusone> you can also do it the proper way by modifying interfaces and all that
[0:27] <shiftplusone> Q48VW, http://learn.adafruit.com/adafruits-raspberry-pi-lesson-3-network-setup/setting-up-wifi-with-raspbian
[0:28] <Q48VW> shiftplusone, I have it already configred. It connects to my network with a static IP, and I can ssh into it over LAN, but the Pi doesn't have "internet access"
[0:28] <johnc-> shiftplusone: tyvm :)
[0:28] <shiftplusone> that page has the method with the GUI, but I would click 'Setting up Wifi with the Command Line' and follow those steps
[0:28] <Q48VW> I can't apt-get update or download anything
[0:28] <shiftplusone> oh =/
[0:28] <shiftplusone> no idea then... that's a whole other question.
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[0:28] <dagerik> Q48VW: what does curl ifconfig.me says?
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[0:29] <gyeben> does anyone have a solution for this: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=50268 ?
[0:29] <Q48VW> dagerik, "curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'ifconfig.me'
[0:29] <Q48VW> "
[0:30] <dagerik> Q48VW: try ping
[0:30] <dagerik> thats a google owned server
[0:31] <juliend> shiftplusone: I have my toolchain
[0:31] <Q48VW> dagerik, it pings.
[0:31] <dagerik> Q48VW: then it's a dns issue
[0:31] <shiftplusone> juliend, I would give up on gitit for now
[0:31] <Q48VW> How would I go about resolving it
[0:31] <dagerik> or maybe port restrictions on the router?
[0:32] <juliend> and now ? ... i don't know
[0:32] <juliend> ok
[0:32] <dagerik> Q48VW: what does dig ifconfig.me says?
[0:33] <Q48VW> dagerik, "dig: command not found"
[0:33] <dagerik> you know what to do then brotha
[0:33] <dagerik> oh right
[0:33] <dagerik> silly me
[0:33] <Q48VW> wat
[0:33] <Q48VW> I tried sudo-ing it too
[0:33] <dagerik> i was thinking you can install it with apt-get
[0:33] <Q48VW> lol
[0:34] <shiftplusone> oh dear, 'sudo-ing' software?
[0:34] <dagerik> your computer can talk to internet but dns aint working
[0:34] <dagerik> try setting your dns server to be googles dns server:
[0:34] <Q48VW> from my router?
[0:34] <dagerik> Q48VW: no, the pi
[0:34] <ShorTie> try 'apt-cache search dig'
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[0:35] <Q48VW> ShorTie, "E: Unable to locate package dig"
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[0:36] <Q48VW> oh my christ I just cache searched for "dig" and it spewed a shittonne of packages
[0:36] <ShorTie> yup
[0:36] <shiftplusone> Yeah, it will do that. (Mind the language though)
[0:36] <pksato> Q48VW: set default gateway? (route -n | grep
[0:37] <plugwash> The package you are looking for is dnsutils
[0:37] <dagerik> Q48VW: read this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/how-to-find-out-what-my-dns-servers-address-is/
[0:37] <pksato> route -n | grep ^
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[0:38] <pksato> ah... dns no set or wrong, Q48VW nano -w /etc/resolv.conf
[0:39] <pksato> and, insert this line nameserver
[0:39] <Q48VW> also, my SSH over wifi is hideously slow at times
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[0:40] <dagerik> Q48VW: are you talking about a file transfer using scp? ssh being slow doesnt make sense
[0:40] <dagerik> thats like saying http is slow
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[0:41] <Q48VW> dagerik, as in, there is a significant delay from when I punch in commands through putty and actually get a response
[0:42] <johnc-> hmm, running startx started the lightdm taskbar
[0:43] <shiftplusone> johnc-, missing ~/.xinitrc ?
[0:43] <dagerik> Q48VW: oh okay
[0:43] <johnc-> shiftplusone: possibly, it's refusing to run as pi so I ran as root to test
[0:43] <dagerik> Q48VW: if you type the character 'a', how many seconds does it take before it appears at your prompt?
[0:43] <shiftplusone> johnc-, what does it say when it refuses to run?
[0:44] <johnc-> xinit: connection to X server lost
[0:44] <johnc-> waiting for X server to shut down Server terminated successfully (0). Closing log file.
[0:44] <johnc-> no errors
[0:44] <johnc-> just closes
[0:44] <shiftplusone> what do you have in /home/pi/.xinitrc ?
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[0:44] <johnc-> nothing
[0:45] <shiftplusone> well there's your problem.
[0:45] <johnc-> ahh
[0:45] <shiftplusone> put "exec openbox-session" in there and try again
[0:45] <johnc-> I need to run the wm in there?
[0:45] <shiftplusone> (if you're using openbox)
[0:45] <raidensnake> how do you fix a library link
[0:45] <raidensnake> ftgl isn't registering
[0:45] <shiftplusone> johnc-, it's a list of commands that will be executed when X starts.
[0:46] <johnc-> alrighty
[0:46] <dagerik> raidensnake: shared library paths are set when linking after compilation
[0:46] <Q48VW> dagerik, cat /etc/resolv.conf
[0:46] <Q48VW> domain mshome.net
[0:46] <Q48VW> search mshome.net
[0:46] <Q48VW> nameserver
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[0:46] <dagerik> Q48VW: try instead
[0:47] <Q48VW> for which item?
[0:47] <dagerik> nameserver
[0:47] <maxinux> google dns is bad mm-kay
[0:47] <maxinux> use your isp's dns server.
[0:47] <rikkib> ldconfig --help
[0:47] <rikkib> Usage: ldconfig [OPTION...]
[0:47] <rikkib> Configure Dynamic Linker Run Time Bindings.
[0:47] <Q48VW> I'm pretty sure that mshome.net shit comes from when I internet-shared my pc with my pi over ethernet
[0:47] <dagerik> that ip is the router and is a dns server. but it's not doing it's job
[0:47] <pksato> most isp dns are bad too.
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[0:48] <johnc-> shiftplusone: thanks a lot, got it running =) now to auto start it :)
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[0:49] <Q48VW> whoops
[0:49] <johnc-> shiftplusone: can I just put the exec line for my GTK app in .xinitrc?
[0:49] <shiftplusone> johnc-, if you won't need a wm, sure.
[0:50] <pksato> most applications not work proper without a window manager.
[0:50] <shiftplusone> otherwise put the program name followed by a & in the first line
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[0:50] <shiftplusone> and the exec line as before at the end
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[0:51] <johnc-> so: unclutter & \n gtk-app-start & \n exec openbox-session ?
[0:51] <pksato> johnc-: just put, exec you_gtk_app
[0:51] <Q48VW> dagerik, rebooted. fixed it. ping google.com returns results.
[0:52] <pksato> dont put & on end.
[0:52] <dagerik> Q48VW: did you change to google's dns server?
[0:52] <shiftplusone> I am not sure that will work
[0:52] <Q48VW> dagerik, yeah:
[0:52] <dagerik> Q48VW: good stuff man. keep it real brotha peace out
[0:53] <Q48VW> dagerik, dude thanks for the help. sorry about my mouth, I'll go eat soap
[0:53] <shiftplusone> >_<
[0:54] <shiftplusone> johnc-, yeah, the line you gave should work.
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[0:55] <shiftplusone> johnc-, what's this for anyway? some kiosk sort of deal?
[0:55] <Q48VW> shiftplusone, what kind of things is he doing
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[0:56] <johnc-> shiftplusone: think xbmc or similar but with connections to your home appliances, your phone, your computers etc.
[0:56] <shiftplusone> Q48VW, nothing too fancy, just starting a gtk program when X starts, rather than a whole DE.
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[0:57] <shiftplusone> hm
[0:57] <Q48VW> how hard could that be'
[0:57] <shiftplusone> as hard as modifying a few lines in 2 files =D
[0:58] <Q48VW> then what is the problem?
[0:58] <dagerik> for a linux beginner it could take years
[0:58] <shiftplusone> Who said there was a problem? D=
[0:58] <johnc-> who said there was a problem?
[0:58] <shiftplusone> heh
[0:58] <Q48VW> pffft
[0:59] <johnc-> shiftplusone: why should the openbox-session be at the bottom of the xinitrc file?
[1:00] <shiftplusone> johnc-, think of xinitrc as a normal shell script that exits when everything in it is done running. When openbox-session is closed, X will exit.
[1:00] <Q48VW> hey dagerik, one more question. I'm trying to do this: http://www.emmaanuel.com/SqueezeBerry-a-Music-Player-based
[1:00] <Q48VW> and I'm stuck on this step: squeezelite-armv6 -l
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[1:02] <dagerik> for executing programs not in ur PATH you need to prepend ./ in front of the program
[1:02] <shiftplusone> johnc-, so if you put it at the start, the rest of the list won't execute until openbox-session closes. You can put openbox-session& at the start and exec gtk-app and the end, and that will work too.
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[1:04] <shiftplusone> Q48VW, (./squeezelite-armv6 -l , not squeezelite-armv6 -l)
[1:04] <Q48VW> I got it
[1:04] <Q48VW> thanks
[1:04] <shiftplusone> ah
[1:06] <raidensnake> hey shift
[1:06] <dagerik> Q48VW: it's a security feature so that when root browses your home folder and executes ls, it wont execute your malware also called ls
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[1:07] <shiftplusone> raidensnake, hey
[1:07] <shiftplusone> .... is this still about ftgl? >.>
[1:07] <raidensnake> do you know how to force a library to register?
[1:07] <Q48VW> dagerik, that makes sense.
[1:07] <raidensnake> yeah
[1:07] <raidensnake> it's supposed to work under -lftgl but it says not found
[1:07] <raidensnake> but the actual library exists
[1:08] <shiftplusone> raidensnake, did you run ldconfig?
[1:08] <raidensnake> yes but it didn't make a difference
[1:08] <raidensnake> same problem
[1:08] <shiftplusone> did you run it with -v to make sure it finds it
[1:08] <raidensnake> yes
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[1:08] <shiftplusone> does it?
[1:08] <Q48VW> does this place accept donations?
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[1:09] <shiftplusone> Q48VW, nope
[1:09] <Q48VW> why
[1:09] <dagerik> Q48VW: yes it does ill PM you the correct bank account number
[1:09] <Q48VW> uh
[1:10] <shiftplusone> Q48VW, why would we? If you want to give an individual like dagerik money, by all means, that's your business. However, the ops don't take money, no.
[1:11] <Q48VW> idk, there should be a centralized distribution of donations though, so I can buy you guys 1/12th of a beer.
[1:11] <raidensnake> best option buy something on the official site
[1:11] <shiftplusone> It doesn't cost us anything to run it, so it would make more sense to donate to freenode or the raspberry pi foundation.
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[1:13] <Q48VW> shiftplusone, but if you're donating your time to helping people, I'd like to donate my money to you
[1:13] <raidensnake> it says /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lftgl
[1:13] <shiftplusone> Q48VW, that's not the spirit of IRC >_<
[1:13] <Q48VW> alright mr dark knight
[1:14] <Q48VW> you're not the op we deserve, you're the op we need
[1:14] * shiftplusone facepalms
[1:14] <Q48VW> I am your sandwich
[1:14] <dagerik> someone put a leash on that filthy mouth of his
[1:15] <shiftplusone> raidensnake, can you pastebin the output of ldconfig -v ?
[1:15] <raidensnake> it sees it
[1:15] <raidensnake> but there's too many entries to copy
[1:15] <dagerik> raidensnake: use wgetpaste
[1:15] <shiftplusone> I just want to see how it sees it is it libftgl.so or what?
[1:15] <dagerik> raidensnake: you can just do ldconfig -v | wgetpaste and it's paste all content and make a url
[1:15] <raidensnake> libftgl.so.2 -> libftgl.so.2.1.3
[1:15] <raidensnake> is what it shows
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[1:16] <shiftplusone> is it a dynamic or a static link you're making?
[1:16] <raidensnake> I wish i knew
[1:16] <raidensnake> i just got it from getting apt-get
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[1:17] <shiftplusone> can I see the whole gcc line?
[1:17] <Q48VW> dagerik, do you have some kind of beef with me?
[1:17] <raidensnake> apt-get install libftgl2
[1:17] <raidensnake> is what I used to download it
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[1:18] <shiftplusone> yeah, that's fine, I don't think there is a problem with libftgl
[1:19] <dagerik> Q48VW: no
[1:19] <Q48VW> dagerik, squeezelite just sits there after I try to run it
[1:19] <raidensnake> usually it sees it
[1:19] <raidensnake> but it seems like it's under a different name
[1:20] <raidensnake> how do you look up the -l name?
[1:20] <dagerik> Q48VW: this program is unbeknowest to me. sounds like it's running foreveralone in a loop
[1:21] <juliend> shiftplusone: i retry to install/compil gitit on raspberry, and yes, it fail because ther is not enougth ram... maybe a can extend swap size ?
[1:21] <raidensnake> oh hold on
[1:21] <raidensnake> it says dynamic the so file
[1:21] <shiftplusone> raidensnake, yes, I am asking about how you're compiling, not the so file itself.
[1:22] <raidensnake> using a make file
[1:22] <raidensnake> when it links it uses this line
[1:22] <raidensnake> @$(LINK) $(LIBS_INCLUDES) $+ $(LIBS) -o $@
[1:23] <shiftplusone> looks fine to me
[1:23] <raidensnake> libs_includes means a list of includes folders
[1:23] <raidensnake> yeah but it always errors sating that it doesn't see -lftgl
[1:23] <raidensnake> saying*
[1:24] <shiftplusone> if you don't mind having your head ripped off, you could try asking in ##C++
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[1:25] <dagerik> raidensnake: out output in pastebin
[1:25] <dagerik> maybe i can put my skills to use on it
[1:25] <dagerik> raidensnake: put all output on pastebin
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[1:26] <raidensnake> I provided the line that it errors on
[1:26] <dagerik> give everything. dont be shy
[1:26] <raidensnake> that's it
[1:26] <dagerik> hand it over brotha
[1:26] <raidensnake> it won't show anything else
[1:26] <raidensnake> I just checked
[1:27] <dagerik> you probably need another package
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[1:27] <shiftplusone> I'd ask for the whole makefile and all of the output from "make clean; make", but raidensnake seems a little secretive about these things >.>
[1:27] <raidensnake> I just read something similar to glibc-static
[1:27] <dagerik> like libftgl2-dev or something
[1:27] <raidensnake> already have that
[1:27] <raidensnake> libftgl2-dev
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[1:32] <dagerik> raidensnake: try -lftgl2
[1:32] <dagerik> im just tossing out suggestions here
[1:32] <raidensnake> tried that as well
[1:32] <dagerik> dont shoot
[1:32] <raidensnake> didn't see it
[1:35] <dagerik> raidensnake: http://bpaste.net/show/115750/
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[1:35] <bosnjak> hi all
[1:36] <shiftplusone> hello, sir.
[1:36] <dagerik> greetings from gotham city
[1:36] <bosnjak> hi :)
[1:36] <bosnjak> has anyone used pjsip on rpi?
[1:36] <dagerik> no one, ever has done that
[1:36] <bosnjak> lol
[1:36] <raidensnake> that only works for a single file
[1:36] <bosnjak> you sure
[1:36] <bosnjak> ?
[1:36] <raidensnake> the makem file i have does it for multiple files
[1:37] <dagerik> raidensnake: so the problem is the makefile
[1:37] <bosnjak> does anyone know anything about voip? or do you know where i can ask?
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[1:37] <dagerik> bosnjak: yes and yes
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[1:38] <bosnjak> dagerik, i am trying to call my cellphone from rpi using pjsua softphone.
[1:39] <bosnjak> dagerik, what URL do i enter?
[1:39] <dagerik> http://google.com
[1:40] <bosnjak> dagerik, i really wouldn't ask here if i didnt spend 2-3 hours googling
[1:40] <bosnjak> dagerik, have you used pjsip?
[1:40] <dagerik> this program is unbeknownst to me
[1:41] <bosnjak> dagerik, any other sip based utilities?
[1:41] <dagerik> i use skype for my webcam sessions
[1:42] <shiftplusone> bosnjak, I do not get the impression that dagerik is actually trying to help you there. Maybe try asking when it's a little more active in there.
[1:42] <bosnjak> dagerik, do you know what the format is for URL to call cellphone (i have voip provider)
[1:42] <raidensnake> it goes to this
[1:42] <raidensnake> LINK = $(CXX)
[1:43] <bosnjak> shiftplusone, thank you... do you know where this question would be on topic?
[1:43] <raidensnake> which is this
[1:43] <raidensnake> CXX = g++ -DHAVE_GLES -mfloat-abi=hard
[1:43] <shiftplusone> bosnjak, no, no idea, sorry. You could also try the raspberrypi.org forum, if you haven't already.
[1:44] <dagerik> bosnjak: sorry i dont know
[1:44] <bosnjak> shiftplusone, I have found couple questions about the problem i am facing, but no answers nowhere.
[1:44] <bosnjak> shiftplusone, thank you
[1:44] <bosnjak> dagerik, no problem, thank you anyway
[1:45] <dagerik> bosnjak: the answer probably lies in the user documentation of pjsua
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[1:46] <dagerik> if all else fails, use the source
[1:46] <bosnjak> dagerik, I read it. not resolved :(
[1:46] <bosnjak> dagerik, pjsip is huuuuge project, i wouldnt want to get into that source :D
[1:46] <dagerik> bosnjak: the emailing list also contains answers
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[1:47] <bosnjak> dagerik, i found a few questions asked, but no answers. its like not much people are using this
[1:47] <bosnjak> at least not on rpi
[1:47] <dagerik> your google skills need enhancements
[1:48] <dagerik> do like this: site:pjsip.com <insert term here>
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[1:48] <bosnjak> dagerik, ill try, thank you
[1:50] <biberao> hi
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[1:50] <dagerik> greetings fellow IRC traveller
[1:51] <dagerik> how can I be of assistance?
[1:53] <Datalink> hm, I need more HDMI cables.
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[1:56] <Q48VW> hey dagerik. I have a squeezelite file, and it says no such file or directory when I try to execute it
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[1:57] <dagerik> bash can only execute files
[1:57] <bosnjak> how can i install alsa-devel on rpi (arch)? "sudo pacman -S alsa-devel" is returning: "target not found"
[1:57] <dagerik> bosnjak: use pacman -Ss alsa to search
[1:58] <Datalink> Q48VW, is it an executable file, also if it's in the current directory you'll have to prepend it with ./
[1:58] <bosnjak> dagerik, nice, thanks. But there is no package of interest. Could it be that I dont have the repos I need?
[1:58] <juliend> shiftplusone: i try ton compil on qemu img http://xecdesign.com/qemu-emulating-raspberry-pi-the-easy-way/
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[1:59] <juliend> i extand swap to 2Go
[1:59] <dagerik> bosnjak: try check the aur then
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[1:59] <dagerik> if not there you gonna have to download and compile urself
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[1:59] <bosnjak> dagerik, aur? what is aur
[2:00] <dagerik> google it
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[2:00] <Q48VW> http://i.imgur.com/XH6GIuy.png
[2:01] <dagerik> impossibru!
[2:02] <shiftplusone> demons
[2:03] <juliend> shiftplusone: i hope success
[2:03] <Q48VW> dagerik, what do you suggest?
[2:03] <shiftplusone> juliend, how did you install ghc? I thought it didn't work in qemu?
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[2:03] <semitones> Hey guys
[2:03] <semitones> folks
[2:04] <dagerik> Q48VW: the file mush have been moved/deleted after ls
[2:04] <Q48VW> uh
[2:04] <dagerik> Q48VW: also make sure to use bash tab completition to get correct file name
[2:04] <dagerik> Q48VW: also paste content of the file somewhere
[2:05] <dagerik> bpaste.net
[2:05] <semitones> Can you see the output of fsck if it's already done running?
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[2:06] <Q48VW> dagerik, it's a bunch of jibberish
[2:07] <dagerik> use file(1) on it
[2:08] <Q48VW> dagerik, "squeezelite-armv6hf: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, ARM, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.26, BuildID[sha1]=0xc4371e11f9f81a6d79ae9d8e4d18cd558c113eaa, not stripped"
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[2:08] <dagerik> now then try executing again
[2:09] <dagerik> and dont you dare fire up a new terminal or something
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[2:09] <shiftplusone> If that doesn't work, kill it with fire.
[2:09] <dagerik> use the same one as you executed file
[2:11] <Q48VW> it aint workin
[2:11] <Q48VW> I marked it as u+x, should I have?
[2:11] <shiftplusone> yes
[2:12] <Q48VW> it still tells me it doesn't exist
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[2:12] <dagerik> Q48VW: http://bpaste.net/show/xgn3q5jFKljP8tigZNtx/
[2:13] <dagerik> see, bash can find it
[2:13] <juliend> shiftplusone: in debootstrap with qemu-arm-static, yes, ghc can't be install
[2:13] <juliend> but in qemu vm, it can be install.
[2:14] <shiftplusone> ah, so it's just a usermode thing, makes sense.
[2:14] <Q48VW> dagerik, what do you mean?
[2:14] <dagerik> Q48VW: another suggestion. try ldd on it
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[2:14] <juliend> shiftplusone: ?
[2:14] <juliend> qemu-system-arm -kernel kernel-qemu -cpu arm1176 -m 256 -M versatilepb -no-reboot -serial stdio -append "root=/dev/sda2 panic=1" -hda 2013-05-25-wheezy-raspbian.img -redir tcp:5022::22
[2:14] <Q48VW> dagerik, "not a dynamic executable"
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[2:14] <juliend> emu-system-arm -kernel kernel-qemu -cpu arm1176 -m 256 -M versatilepb -no-reboot -serial stdio -append "root=/dev/sda2 panic=1" -hda 2013-05-25-wheezy-raspbian.img -redir tcp:5022::22
[2:15] <shiftplusone> juliend, that looks fine to me
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[2:15] <juliend> with cross compilation ?
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[2:15] <dagerik> Q48VW: are you using bash autocompletition to get the filename?
[2:15] <shiftplusone> no, just keep doing what you're doing and see how it goes
[2:16] <Q48VW> dagerik, yeah
[2:16] <dagerik> all i have left is that there is a whitespace at the end of the filename
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[2:16] <Q48VW> uh
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[2:17] <juliend> shiftplusone: ok, and with cross compilation, have you success ?
[2:17] <shiftplusone> juliend, nope, I gave up pretty quickly
[2:18] <Q48VW> dagerik, I tried renaming it, and got this: ~ $ sudo rename squeezelite-armv6hf sl
[2:18] <Q48VW> Bareword "squeezelite" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1.
[2:18] <Q48VW> Bareword "armv6hf" not allowed while "strict subs" in use at (eval 1) line 1.
[2:18] <juliend> shiftplusone: ok :-)
[2:19] <dagerik> Q48VW: dont use sudo
[2:19] <Q48VW> same result either way
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[2:20] <shiftplusone> Q48VW, output of "ls -la" ?
[2:21] <dagerik> Q48VW: wrong architecture? or linked confused?
[2:21] <dagerik> you must have done something nasty to your systen
[2:21] <dagerik> *linker
[2:23] <Q48VW> what is the difference betweek armv6 and armv6hf
[2:23] <Q48VW> between*
[2:24] <pksato> I found a small dc-dc converter on my 'dumpster' http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/5919/3d9o.jpg
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[2:27] <dagerik> Q48VW: wrong architecture
[2:27] <Q48VW> great
[2:30] <dagerik> Q48VW: file squeezelite-armv6hf and compare with uname -a
[2:30] <Q48VW> I tried downloading an armv6 rather than an armv6hf
[2:30] <Q48VW> it executes
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[2:45] <pksato> finding power rating of this psu (10V) http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/3825/faql.jpg
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[2:48] <semitones> so guess what you guys. I mounted a tmpfs for my quassel database, and now my load average is down to .22 from 1.9
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[2:55] <Coburn> Question: Has anyone broken the 1Ghz barrier on the R-Pi?
[2:56] <shiftplusone> yes
[2:56] <Coburn> what's your speed?
[2:56] <Coburn> I was thinking of going to 1.2Ghz
[2:56] <Coburn> for shits and giggles
[2:56] <shiftplusone> I am running on default, but people have gone higher than 1.2 even
[2:57] <shiftplusone> Someone said 1.8, but I didn't take that particularly seriously
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[2:57] <Coburn> cool
[2:57] <shiftplusone> at 1.2 you'll probably want to monitor the cpu temperature and slap a fan on there
[2:57] <Coburn> I might see if I can get one above 1Ghz
[2:57] <Coburn> :P
[2:57] <Coburn> I'll find a fan kicking around somewhere
[2:57] <shiftplusone> and family friendly channel and all that
[2:57] <Coburn> yeah
[2:58] <Coburn> forgive me
[2:58] <Coburn> :P
[2:58] <Coburn> alright, bbl
[2:58] <shiftplusone> good luck
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[3:17] <Squarepy> running from usb + slight overclock -> responsive openelec
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[4:32] <[Saint]> Coburn:
[4:32] <[Saint]> whoops.
[4:33] <[Saint]> The primary issue, besides stability (which seems fairly random) is cooling around 1.6GHz+
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[4:33] <[Saint]> That, and, building a system that will actually hold stable at this clock range.
[4:34] <[Saint]> People more insane that I have ventured into much higher clocks with active cooling.
[4:34] <Coburn> [Saint]:
[4:34] <Coburn> So the maximum recommended speed is?
[4:35] <[Saint]> maximum recommended == 1GHz.
[4:36] <[Saint]> One of the major issues is the production variation. Some units seem to *really* dislike <1GHz.
[4:37] <Coburn> Well, mine are made from the UK.
[4:37] <Coburn> My 256MB one was made in china though
[4:37] <[Saint]> Where its made is meaningless.
[4:37] <[Saint]> ...and, slightly racist to suggest otherwise. :)
[4:38] <Coburn> heh
[4:38] <Coburn> Well, I can say, 900Mhz is stable for me.
[4:38] <Coburn> Haven't adventured running at 1Ghz all the time
[4:39] <[Saint]> With pretty much every CPU, you'll find that occasionally there are outliers capable of performing well outside their recommended range. Occasionally you'll find ones that don't perform up to their recommended range, but these are usually weeded out during production tests.
[4:40] <[Saint]> There's a lot of variation in bulk manufacture.
[4:40] <[Saint]> It can be pure luck.
[4:40] <Coburn> Hm, ok.
[4:41] <[Saint]> In my personal experience, ~1.2GHz is fine, but I have found others that claim that even 900MHz makes their device completely unstable.
[4:42] <[Saint]> (when I say "fine" I mean, no special effort taken to ensure functionality)
[4:43] <[Saint]> Some people have also said that fast sd cards (Class 10) behave very poorly with high clock speeds, but this isn't a problem I have faced either.
[4:45] <[Saint]> Trial and error, basically.
[4:46] <[Saint]> Find out what works for your use case, and your device(s) via trial and error. Backup your sdcard, then start playing.
[4:46] <[Saint]> The absolute worst that is going to happen unless you turn off thermal protection is the pi will throttle itself, and then shut down.
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[5:18] <semitones> is it true that class 4 sd actually do better for filesystem use than class10?
[5:20] <shiftplusone> it is true in some cases
[5:21] <shiftplusone> depends more on the card itself
[5:23] <CEnnis91> wut?
[5:23] <CEnnis91> why would it be better
[5:24] <CEnnis91> (assuming read and write speeds are actually at the correct class speeds)
[5:24] <shiftplusone> It's not as simple as 10>4
[5:26] <shiftplusone> there are snippets of information here https://github.com/raspberrypi/linux/issues/280 , but I wouldn't take what 'remsnet' says seriously.
[5:29] <Q48VW> my wifi only works sometimes.
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[5:29] <CEnnis91> interesting
[5:30] <CEnnis91> havent seen that error on my amazon class 10
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[5:30] <Coburn> hmm
[5:31] <Coburn> Well, my R-Pi is a Class 4 8GB SD
[5:31] <Coburn> Interesting read
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[5:44] <Coburn> shiftplusone: lots of engrish by some guy on that github issue
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[5:49] <shiftplusone> yup >_<
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[6:11] <g2nightmare> this is a really odd question
[6:11] <g2nightmare> but is it possible to use the raspi as a network storage device for a couple IP security cameras
[6:11] <shiftplusone> I don't see why not
[6:11] <g2nightmare> http://www.lightinthebox.com/wanscam-waterproof-night-vision-wireless-ip-camera-with-ir-20m_p217293.html
[6:12] <g2nightmare> \we were looking at buying a couple of these
[6:12] <g2nightmare> i currently use my raspberry pi as a website
[6:12] <g2nightmare> so i wonder if i can integrate the security system as well?
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[6:12] <g2nightmare> website has little traffic if that's a concern
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[6:57] <g2nightmare> so if i want to view files on a usb drive on my pi from anywhere, do i have to set up SSL?
[6:58] <shiftplusone> nope
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[6:58] <g2nightmare> hmm
[6:59] <shiftplusone> you can user SSH, SAMBA, NFS, FTP or whatever else you want.
[6:59] <shiftplusone> *use
[7:00] <g2nightmare> well i have ssh set up
[7:00] <g2nightmare> i can view my files via winscp or putty
[7:00] <shiftplusone> yup, it's a cpu intensive option though
[7:00] <g2nightmare> so what do you recommend?>
[7:00] <shiftplusone> do you need to access the files from windows?
[7:01] <shiftplusone> well, you said putty, so maybe that was a stupid question. I think that makes samba the best option
[7:01] <g2nightmare> i guess
[7:01] <g2nightmare> i'm just stuck on how i want to set this up
[7:02] <g2nightmare> maybe im asking the wrong questions
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[7:03] <g2nightmare> first of all, i want to mount my hdd whenever my pi boots up
[7:03] <g2nightmare> i tried adding a line to fstab
[7:03] <g2nightmare> but then my pi doesn't allow me to ssh into it
[7:03] <g2nightmare> whenever i reboot, that is
[7:03] <g2nightmare> and my hard drive clicks. so i'm assuming something is going wrong.
[7:03] <shiftplusone> That doesn't make much sense =/
[7:03] <g2nightmare> yeah.
[7:04] <g2nightmare> normally i mount the drive like:
[7:04] <g2nightmare> sudo mount -o rw /dev/sda1 /media/hdd
[7:04] <g2nightmare> no problems
[7:04] <g2nightmare> so i add the line:
[7:04] <shiftplusone> are you using a powered hub (or does the hard drive have an external power supply)?
[7:04] <g2nightmare> /dev/sda1 /media/hdd auto defaults 0 0
[7:04] <g2nightmare> yeah.
[7:05] <g2nightmare> im using a powered hub, essentially
[7:05] <shiftplusone> it really should not affect ssh in any way. What happens exactly? sshd fails to start? the network doesn't come up... what?
[7:05] <g2nightmare> well when i reboot the pi
[7:05] <g2nightmare> my website becomes visible
[7:05] <g2nightmare> but then i can't access my pi
[7:05] <g2nightmare> that's about it.
[7:06] <g2nightmare> how can i further diagnose it?
[7:06] <shiftplusone> what do you mean by can't access... what's the error?
[7:06] <g2nightmare> winscp or putty can't find my pi
[7:06] <g2nightmare> no real error
[7:06] <g2nightmare> its probably trying to find my hdd in a repetitive loop and never does.
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[7:07] <shiftplusone> ssh doesn't have anything to do with the hard drive though. If the hard drive was on fire, SSH should be fine.
[7:07] <g2nightmare> yeah i don't get it either.
[7:07] <g2nightmare> maybe i'm mounting wrong in fstab
[7:07] <g2nightmare> i'm hitting tab
[7:08] <g2nightmare> does formatting matter?
[7:08] <shiftplusone> nope.... as long as they are whitespaces
[7:08] <g2nightmare> hmm
[7:08] <g2nightmare> if my hdd is mounted, what command views info on it?
[7:08] <g2nightmare> like to find out if its ntfs or fat
[7:08] <g2nightmare> etc
[7:08] <shiftplusone> 'mount'
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[7:09] <g2nightmare> /dev/sda1 on /media/hdd type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[7:10] <g2nightmare> gonna try the type as fuseblk instead of auto
[7:10] <shiftplusone> don't
[7:10] <g2nightmare> ?
[7:11] <shiftplusone> I've got to go, but yeah, I don't think it will make a difference. Do you have local access to the pi? Check the logs and so on. Good luck.
[7:11] <g2nightmare> seeya thanks anyways
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[7:16] <shiftplusone> don't have to go after all
[7:16] <shiftplusone> One thing that REALLY stands out is that your fstab line you gave before is wrong
[7:16] <shiftplusone> mount point comes first, not the device.
[7:16] <g2nightmare> i know
[7:16] <g2nightmare> i just fixed it
[7:16] <g2nightmare> i used
[7:17] <g2nightmare> /dev/sda1 /media/hdd auto rw 0 0
[7:17] <g2nightmare> and i did a chmod 777 of /media/hdd
[7:17] <g2nightmare> and did a reboot
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[7:17] <g2nightmare> and everything is mounted
[7:17] <shiftplusone> O_o typo?
[7:17] <g2nightmare> no i added rw
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[7:17] <g2nightmare> instead of defaults
[7:17] <g2nightmare> because rw isn't in default
[7:17] <g2nightmare> for some reason
[7:18] <g2nightmare> or maybe it is, and maybe i needed to chmod the directory
[7:18] <shiftplusone> bah.... I am a bit tired or something, sorry
[7:18] <g2nightmare> you're fine
[7:18] <shiftplusone> yeah, that's fine.
[7:18] <shiftplusone> everything works now?
[7:18] <g2nightmare> well that does
[7:18] <g2nightmare> im still thinking about how i need to solve my problem
[7:19] <raidensnake> I'm wondering if I used a script to build a clean version of raspbial if it would boot
[7:19] <raidensnake> and help debug my issue
[7:21] <shiftplusone> raidensnake, it sounds like your issue is in the build files themselves not with the system or any libraries. Have you gone over your makefiles carefully? Have you checked the commands make actually executes? Have you made sure all the necessary paths are there and so on?
[7:22] <raidensnake> yeah they all so
[7:22] <raidensnake> do*
[7:22] <raidensnake> i fixed the lftgl problem
[7:22] <shiftplusone> ah, what was it?
[7:23] <shiftplusone> and what's the new problem?
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[7:36] <raidensnake> still unknown
[7:36] <raidensnake> still won't start and gdb doesn't even mention what's wrong
[7:37] <raidensnake> all it has when i try to debug the game is a big ???
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[8:15] <raidensnake> oh wow
[8:15] <raidensnake> hifi from #raspbian has built a bare knuckle version of raspbian
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[8:18] <johnc-> man, watching videos in proper HD on a good TV makes them look fake and weird
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[8:19] <geordie> what is bare knuckle raspbian?
[8:20] <raidensnake> means just a basic version with none of the extra stuff that's not needed or just thrown in
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[8:24] <raidensnake> I tested hifi's own script and it works sweet!
[8:25] <raidensnake> it's cut down over 1.8GB down to 371MB
[8:25] <raidensnake> and it's full hardfloat
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[8:28] <na85> there's a bare-bones raspian floating around on the wiki, too. I installed it a while ago, whole system fits on a 2G flash card I found in my closet with plenty of space. No Xorg tho.
[8:29] <johnc-> hmm
[8:29] <johnc-> my audio cut out with omxplayer
[8:29] <johnc-> like half way into the video
[8:29] <johnc-> just stopped playing audio
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[9:01] <durango> Is there a way to capture all stdin from a specific usb device?
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[9:10] <na85> durango: can you clarify? you mean a usb input device like a mouse or kb?
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[9:10] <durango> na85 well its a barcode scanner actually
[9:10] <durango> that writes to stdin in ASCII
[9:10] <na85> well can't you just pipe it to a text file?
[9:11] <durango> i have no control over the scanner itself
[9:11] <durango> is there a way to always set usb devices to pipe to a file?
[9:11] <na85> ... well if it writes to stdin
[9:11] <durango> or to a specific stdin file?
[9:12] <na85> i guess i just don't understand the question
[9:12] <durango> theres no "enter" key unfortunately either but it does ammend a '#' at the end
[9:12] <durango> which "acts" like an enter key (in our program)
[9:12] <na85> if you already have a process giving you stuff as stdout
[9:12] <na85> then you can just use the > operator to write it to a file
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[9:13] <durango> basically i want to create a program that listens to any input from the scanner .. its *just* like a keyboard minus an enter key
[9:14] <johnc-> oh thank GOD I found the setting on my TV that stops it making up frames to insert into the stream
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[9:15] <na85> durango: linux has an input system API that you should read abou
[9:15] <na85> http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6429
[9:15] <durango> na85: can u direct me somewhere?
[9:15] <durango> awesome thanks :)
[9:15] <na85> ^
[9:15] <na85> np
[9:17] <johnc-> ugh
[9:17] <johnc-> omxplayer won't compile
[9:18] <na85> durango: here's part 1 of that article, too: http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/6396
[9:18] <durango> on it :) thanks
[9:18] <na85> good night all
[9:18] <na85> happy hacking
[9:20] <durango> night
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[9:43] <Gorroth> hi
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[9:43] <Gorroth> anyone here know how to make the text under the desktop icons larger? i'm trying to make it so this RPi is easier to use on a 46" tv from several feet away
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[9:49] <Gorroth> nevermind; i figured it out :)
[9:49] <Gorroth> now i've got size 16 fonts for everything :-D
[9:49] <Gorroth> much better for long-distance viewing
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[10:40] <bts__> mgottschlag: would you mind checking it? http://pastebin.com/NT1sABQV - it's written to work on bare metal, I can't figure out why it doesn't work
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[10:43] <mgottschlag> sorry, I don't have time right now
[10:43] <gordonDrogon> bts__, you've been at this for weeks now, haven't you?
[10:45] <bts__> gordonDrogon: actually it's third day of me thinking about it :P
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[10:49] <gordonDrogon> maybe it was someone else some weeks ago then.
[10:49] <gordonDrogon> doing almsot exactly the samething.
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[10:51] <bts__> gordonDrogon: probably it was me intrusively asking about ASM, but as for that problem - it's still something new
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[10:52] <bts__> we've been talking about GPIO in fact, but it's done for me - if you take a look in that link, the problem is connected with accessing memory rather (what's weird)
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[11:46] <Kane-> hi
[11:47] <rikkib> lo
[11:47] <rikkib> A binary conversation
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[11:48] <ShorTie> seems kinda bitty to me
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[11:48] <Encrypt> Hi everybody! :)
[11:49] <Encrypt> I've just received my PiHolder Case \o/
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[11:51] <Encrypt> Let's see if it works :)
[11:51] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-dev.jpg
[11:51] <Encrypt> Actually, my RPi's temperature is 53°C
[11:52] <rikkib> I make my own cases
[11:53] <Encrypt> Nice :)
[11:53] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-sw-but.jpg
[11:53] <rikkib> Top off
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[11:54] <rikkib> I have several different sizes of u section
[11:55] <rikkib> http://www.zlham.geek.nz/images/news/rpi-outdoor.jpg
[11:56] <rikkib> Another set up
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[12:40] <Encrypt> Well... it seems the temperature doesn't go higher than 35°C now
[12:40] <Encrypt> And the room is 27°C hot
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[13:01] <gordonDrogon> it's quite breezy here today for a change...
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[13:27] <atmosx> hello
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[13:28] <atmosx> I have an SD card with raspbian, which I want to clone, to multiple SD cards. What's the best way to go? dd?
[13:28] <Encrypt> atmosx, Yes, sure ;)
[13:28] <Encrypt> Nothing's better than dd to clone things
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[13:29] <atmosx> Encrypt: and expand-root will manage to enlarge the FS if I use bigger SD cards right?
[13:29] <Encrypt> Ya, I think so :)
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[13:30] <atmosx> I think so too, okay thanks :-)
[13:30] <Encrypt> By the way all, the PiHolder case if great :)
[13:31] <Encrypt> Now the temperature is 40.1°C instead of 53°C
[13:31] <Encrypt> Almost 13°C less
[13:32] <Encrypt> And I can feel the PiHolder Case being quite hot :P
[13:33] <atmosx> Encrypt: yes but it's very expensive
[13:33] <Encrypt> Ya
[13:33] <Encrypt> But it's a very nice case :p
[13:33] <Encrypt> And it works well :p
[13:34] <atmosx> I'm looking for a solution to put engravings on a case but I my produce my own cases
[13:34] <Encrypt> atmosx, Moreover, I use my Pi as a Server
[13:34] <atmosx> Encrypt: oh I see.
[13:34] <atmosx> Encrypt: what are you running on it anyway?
[13:34] <Encrypt> So it's quite appropriate to use it :)
[13:34] <Encrypt> atmosx, Web Server, Mail Server, Printer Server, File Server
[13:35] <Encrypt> Spent almost one week to configure everything
[13:35] <Encrypt> Woohoo \o/
[13:35] <Encrypt> :p
[13:35] <atmosx> File server?
[13:35] <atmosx> hmm
[13:35] <Encrypt> Ya
[13:35] <atmosx> slow
[13:35] <Encrypt> Not at all :)
[13:35] <atmosx> web server, serving content to the web or just you?
[13:36] <atmosx> what speeds do you get?
[13:36] <atmosx> is it over WiFi or LAN?
[13:36] <atmosx> lan = ethernet
[13:36] <Encrypt> atmosx, http://www.encrypt-tips.tk
[13:36] <Encrypt> atmosx, Ethernet, sure
[13:36] <Encrypt> I have a 1 Mbps upload speed
[13:37] <Encrypt> That's quite enough for my use
[13:37] <atmosx> 125 Kbps upstream from the ISP?
[13:37] <Encrypt> 1000 kbps then
[13:37] <Encrypt> Ya, upstream
[13:37] <Encrypt> Downstream, it is 10 Mbps
[13:37] <atmosx> yeah sorry it's 125 kb/s and
[13:37] <atmosx> takes 7.1 seconds to load
[13:38] <Encrypt> atmosx, I have to change the quality of the top banner
[13:38] <atmosx> 4.35 with cached content
[13:38] <atmosx> or enable cache everywhere
[13:38] <atmosx> nice
[13:38] <atmosx> what CMS is that?
[13:39] <Encrypt> It's pretty big (700 kb) that's why it charges slowly the first time...
[13:39] <Encrypt> atmosx, Hum...
[13:39] <atmosx> I see
[13:39] <Encrypt> I made my website on e-monsite first
[13:40] <Encrypt> And since I didn't have time to change of CMS, I just "wget" my website to put the HTML pages on my Pi
[13:40] <Encrypt> So that's an uncommon use of a CMS :p
[13:40] <Encrypt> atmosx, Otherwise, my website is powered by NginX
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[13:40] <Encrypt> Static content only as you can see so it is very light
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[13:43] <atmosx> you could use octopress
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[13:43] <atmosx> but if you're not into ruby I guess it's kinda hard to configure
[13:43] <atmosx> Encrypt: nice job
[13:44] <Encrypt> Thanks :)
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[13:47] <Encrypt> atmosx, http://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/19626172/P1050063.JPG ;)
[13:48] <atmosx> cool
[13:48] <Encrypt> And upside is my aquarium :p
[13:52] <Encrypt> atmosx, See you ;)
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[13:52] <atmosx> bye
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[14:19] <dagerik> what is the easiest way to share video files to the pi? (xbmc)
[14:20] <semitones> probably a shared network drive, or steam the with vlcc or somesuch
[14:20] <dagerik> im on arch here. can't i just set up a http or ftp server or something?
[14:21] <semitones> are you sharing across the internet?
[14:21] <dagerik> ye
[14:21] <semitones> idk then
[14:22] <semitones> you could ftp or sftp
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[14:26] <CeilingKitten> semitones, I was streaming FTP from seedbox to Pi (XBMC) successfully
[14:27] <semitones> sweet!
[14:27] <CeilingKitten> provided you have the upstream on the seedbox and your downstream is enough to keep an active buffer its fine
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[14:28] <CeilingKitten> semitones, I just added it as a source, the only thing i highly recommend, is if you have a very large FTP share, eg,. like bunch of episodes, change your xbmc settings to now download thumbnails or parse the video file it will take longer to load the folders
[14:29] <CeilingKitten> you know how it pulls a thumbnail screenshot locally, it might try to do that for the remote ftp system's files =|
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[14:30] <semitones> sounds like a good idea to change!
[14:30] <CeilingKitten> other than that playback was smooth, my menu was a tad slow but i had a large amount of files and didnt know you could turn off the autogenerated thumbnails
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[15:04] <Dooley> Hi there
[15:06] <plugwash> hi
[15:06] <IT_Sean> ahoy
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[15:09] <Dooley> hey Sean, are you the guy who wrote this pi book?
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[15:47] <chep> hello
[15:48] <chep> did anyone already compile and run omxplayer fine on yocto? After some patches for missing includes, I'm experiencing black screen
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[16:07] <ozzzy> runs fine on raspbian
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[16:18] <dagerik> im unable to configure neither samba or nfs.
[16:18] <dagerik> trying to share videos from my arch laptop
[16:18] <dagerik> it shouldn't be this hard!
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[16:19] <dagerik> here is my samba config: http://bpaste.net/show/115860/
[16:19] <dagerik> but i still get permission denied when i try to login
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[16:45] <semitones> hey you guys
[16:45] <chep> ozzzy: I know...
[16:45] <semitones> if i make a checkinstall .deb, can i post that online for other people and woudl it be useful
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[16:53] <sney> semitones: those packages are not usually release quality
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[16:54] <semitones> true i'm sure
[16:56] <sney> if you want to distribute a package you should really do it the way other maintainers do
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[16:59] <Dooley> ls
[17:00] <sney> semitones: http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ is the authoritative packaging manual. everything is here
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[17:03] <acovrig> Why does login hang when running zsh as pi, but not as root, yet bash works as pi?
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[17:16] <Ypnose> Hi guys, is there a way to know where the rpi was manufactured?
[17:16] <ShorTie> uk
[17:17] <Encrypt> Ypnose, You should see "Made in the UK" if you have to "latest" product
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[17:21] <Ypnose> Encrypt: hum, I bought my RPis in 05 or 06/2012, I guess they weren't manufactured in UK?
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[17:21] <pagios> hello anyone using em28xx?
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[17:21] <Encrypt> Ypnose, Do you see the "Made in the UK" text on your Pi?
[17:22] <Ypnose> lemme check
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[17:22] <bet1m> hi, I've noticed that after you let RPi for a while, and press enter there is a slight delay after it processes it, what's going on? (I have a model b with soft-float debian)
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[17:23] <Encrypt> Ypnose, http://img.hexus.net/v2/lowe/News/General/rev2crop.jpg
[17:23] <Encrypt> If you can't, then it was made in China
[17:24] <Ypnose> ah ok, no it was made in China
[17:24] <Encrypt> ;)
[17:25] <Ypnose> I'm asking this because my friend has a RPi made in UK, and his temperature is colder than mine
[17:25] <Ypnose> with same SD card
[17:25] <Encrypt> Ypnose, How much?
[17:26] <Ypnose> around 10 degrees
[17:26] <Encrypt> And with the same room temperature conditions & case?
[17:26] <Encrypt> Same humidity? :p
[17:26] <Encrypt> Same CPU use? :p
[17:26] <Ypnose> Actually, I dunno about ambient temp, but we are testing in the same room
[17:26] <Ypnose> yes, CPU idle
[17:27] <Ypnose> only ssh + ethernet
[17:27] <Encrypt> Ok...
[17:28] <pagios> hello anyone using em28xx?
[17:29] <Encrypt> Ypnose, And how hot is it?
[17:30] <Ypnose> max temp (in idle) was 52.5°C for the China unit
[17:31] <clever> i think i have a chinese unit, and its idling at 50 right now
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[17:31] <clever> http://ext.earthtools.ca/export/rpi_60.html
[17:31] <clever> this shows cpu temp and cpu usage
[17:31] <clever> http://ext.earthtools.ca/export/graph_54.html and this is ambient temp
[17:31] <Encrypt> It was idleing at 54°C for me this morning, with a room temperature of 27°C
[17:32] <Encrypt> Now, mine is 41°C hot under 28°C \o/
[17:33] <clever> hmmm, it i line up the room temp and cpu temp on the same page, its very obvious
[17:33] <clever> they have nearly identical shapes
[17:36] <Ypnose> Encrypt: You got a UK unit?
[17:36] <Ypnose> an*
[17:36] <Encrypt> Nope
[17:36] <Encrypt> Got a PiHolder Case this morning \o/
[17:37] <Encrypt> Since I use it as a Server, the PiHolder case seemed to me more appropriate
[17:37] <clever> i have noticed that putting it in a 'case' (cardboard box) does increase the avg temp massively
[17:37] <clever> right now, its just bare on the arm rest of a couch
[17:37] <Ypnose> hum interesting
[17:38] <Encrypt> Ypnose, It's really a nice case if you have extra money to spend :p
[17:38] <Ypnose> yes, I know
[17:39] <Ypnose> I want to do a bridge + server with my Pi, that's why I'm a bit worried about the temps
[17:39] <Encrypt> Ypnose, It was the same for me ;)
[17:39] <Encrypt> Ypnose, I bought the "skull" one :)
[17:39] * piney can't justify spending twice what a pi costs on a case for the pi
[17:39] <Encrypt> :p
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[17:41] <clever> let me see if i can export this right...
[17:41] <clever> http://ext.earthtools.ca/export/exported_pi_temp_71_leaf.html
[17:41] <clever> the rise between 6am and noon matches on both cpu and room temps
[17:43] <Ypnose> clever: thanks for your diagrams
[17:43] <clever> i can also see slight drops in the temp, when i picked it up to look for 'made in uk'
[17:44] <clever> it went down about 2 degrees
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[17:45] <Ypnose> hehe
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[17:46] <clever> i had done some brief tests with cpu freq a few days ago, and the freq seemed to have no impact on current draw when idle
[17:46] <clever> it probly just shuts the entire core down when not using it, so the draw would depend purely on usage
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[17:47] <nphase> does anyone have a problem with their pi that the disk goes read-only mode after a few hours?
[17:47] <clever> freq would only have an impact on how much usage it can get per second
[17:47] <clever> nphase: check dmesg
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[17:49] <nphase> ahh yeah
[17:49] <nphase> i/o errors
[17:49] <nphase> wonder why
[17:50] <clever> now thats the hard question! :)
[17:50] <clever> it knows things are going bad, so it makes things read-only to limit the damage
[17:50] <clever> if windows saw the same thing, it would just blue-screen
[17:50] <clever> which also limits damage
[17:51] <Ypnose> hum, I found a similar topic on the forum about temp: http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=45715&p=361203
[17:51] <nphase> clever: guess i can reflash
[17:51] <nphase> or fix the corruption?
[17:51] <clever> nphase: depends on what the cause is, i had the occasional io error when i ran at 100mhz
[17:52] <clever> Ypnose: i'm currently grapging what that script refers to as temp0
[17:52] <clever> cpu temp 0, not gpu
[17:52] <semitones> sney: what would happen if someone else tried to install my .deb that i made for myself?
[17:53] <Encrypt> clever, "the freq seemed to have no impact on current draw when idle" // Same for me
[17:53] <Encrypt> It goes down to 100MHz when it idles and I can't see any temperature difference
[17:53] <sney> semitones: that varies, a lot. it could be fine, or it could be uninstallable, or it could break something. better to just do it properly.
[17:54] <clever> Encrypt: i did find that it had much more io errors when at 100mhz or lower
[17:54] <clever> so i just set it back to run at full speed
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[17:56] <clever> Ypnose: aha, this should help! lol, http://hackaday.com/2013/07/20/water-cooled-raspberry-pi/
[17:56] <nphase> k, gonna touch/forcefsck and shutdown -rF now
[17:57] <Ypnose> clever: haha looks like really nice
[17:58] <clever> Ypnose: reminds me of when somebody put the desktop into the desk!
[17:58] <clever> *gets link*
[17:59] <clever> Ypnose: http://hackaday.com/2011/05/26/my-desk-is-my-computer-case/
[18:00] <Ypnose> clever: wow, awesome
[18:01] <clever> Ypnose: http://hackaday.com/?s=computer+in+desk several others in the search are also nice looking
[18:02] <clever> oh yeah, somebody else was water cooling the computer into the earth
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[18:03] <clever> http://hackaday.com/2010/03/22/pc-cooling-using-1000-ft2-geothermal/
[18:03] <clever> http://hackaday.com/2009/08/26/foundation-cooling/
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[18:04] <clever> LOL http://hackaday.com/2010/02/16/ultimate-flame-bait-liquid-cooled-arduino/
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[18:12] <pagios> hello anyone using em28xx?
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[18:14] <Dooley> ls
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[18:14] <clever> -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 145 2009-03-18 00:27 watch2
[18:14] <pksato> that is em28xx? some i2c/isp chip?
[18:14] <clever> -rw-r--r-- 1 mythtv mythtv 43 2010-10-27 18:51 threads
[18:15] <pagios> pksato: vidoe capture?
[18:17] <pksato> http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=50&t=9483
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[18:32] <Twinsen> does anyone know how can i clone a partition and copy it to the remaining space of another disk?
[18:33] <Twinsen> by remaining space i mean unaloocated space
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[18:38] <linuxstb> Twinsen: What exactly do you want to do? Move the contents of an SD card to another, larger one?
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[18:39] <Twinsen> it's more complicated. Now I boot from SD and load Raspbian from USB drive. I want to move everything to a new SD, and keep Raspbian withh all the things i have installed.
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[18:41] <linuxstb> So move it back from the USB drive to an SD card?
[18:41] <Twinsen> yes
[18:41] <Twinsen> to keep it simple, I want to install a clean raspbian to the new SD, delete the OS partition, then copy the OS partition from the USB
[18:41] <Twinsen> thus keeping the unmodified bootloader
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[18:43] <Twinsen> or i could just create a new partition and just copy all the files, but i'm not sure if that works
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[18:47] <nerdboy> moin
[18:48] <linuxstb> You should just be able to use "dd" for the actual cloning. e.g. if your USB partition appears as /dev/sdb1 on your PC, and your SD card's second partition is /dev/sdc2 then just do "dd if=/dev/sdb1 of=/dev/sdc2
[18:49] <linuxstb> But first you should use fdisk to change the size of the SD card's second partition to be the same as the size of your USB stick's partition.
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[18:49] <dagerik> xbmc keeps buffering the movie when i play it via samba share.
[18:49] <dagerik> is there anything i can do to reduce this?
[18:49] <Twinsen> thanks linuxstb, it sounds like a plan
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[20:11] <Datalink> I bring you, overkill: http://hackaday.com/2013/07/20/water-cooled-raspberry-pi/
[20:11] <SpeedEvil> ...
[20:11] * SpeedEvil sighs.
[20:11] <Datalink> ?
[20:12] <SpeedEvil> I assume they're cooling the top of the package, not under the PCB?
[20:12] <Datalink> looks it, yeah
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[20:14] <dagerik> can the pi stream live webcam video? a suboptimal solution would be like 1 image capture every second
[20:15] <dagerik> but video would be best
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[20:16] <SpeedEvil> Katty has a camera pointed at her squirrels.
[20:17] <Datalink> heh, I wanna see that
[20:17] <dagerik> SpeedEvil: got link?
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[20:18] <ozzzy> most girls don't call them squirrels
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[20:20] <SpeedEvil> Unfortinately no, no link
[20:20] <shiftplusone> dagerik, ustream.tv/channel/birdie-breakfast-buffet
[20:21] <biberao> yo
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[20:29] <chris_99> haha i was just gonna link to that heh Datalink
[20:30] <chris_99> how's it actually cooled?
[20:30] <chris_99> a peltier?
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[20:58] <Datalink> chris_99, metal surface area, the heatsink against the contacts and the large metal surface area of the coolant reservwar are overkill for the chips, which usually can be left open air or have heatsinks as the only real needed cooling surfaces, depending on use and environment
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[20:59] <chris_99> huh?
[20:59] <chris_99> why don't they just use a heatsink then
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[21:01] <chris_99> i guess the water provides more capacity for taking heat? but a peltier would have been cooler
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[21:04] <steve_rox2> uses lot of power tho
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[21:07] <Dooley> Good evening
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[21:16] <ShorTie> Mornin
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[21:56] <CeilingKitten> why so quiet today? =]
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[21:56] <shiftplusone> no Katty, I am guessing.
[21:57] <CeilingKitten> ah,
[21:57] <CeilingKitten> how are you shiftplusone ?
[21:58] <shiftplusone> I am great, just getting around to transferring some stuff from a breadboard to perfboard before diving back into code =/
[21:58] <shiftplusone> you?
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[22:00] <CeilingKitten> I been testing a custom raspbian image for someone in another channel, its a completely unattended raspbian net install. you download a 32mb img file, and it boots and downloads all the latest packages to form a minimal install. You can even just move a scripted boot file "mv reinstallconfig.txt config.txt" and it will reinstall raspbian on boot.
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[22:00] <CeilingKitten> Its barebones though it has like the linux base, ssh, etc,. boots to only 29mb of ram in use =) and no services
[22:00] <shiftplusone> ah, nice
[22:01] <shiftplusone> is it made from raspbian files or buildroot?
[22:01] <CeilingKitten> yeah, i like the reinstall remotely through the net part, be good for anyone with a Remote RPi, or hosting
[22:01] <CeilingKitten> the is a build root and some other scripts, it appears to download it all from the source (i think git), there is a script file where you can inject your own package commands and other stuff being worked on
[22:02] <shiftplusone> ah
[22:02] <CeilingKitten> its pretty neat so far =)
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[22:03] <CeilingKitten> Raspbian-UA-NetInst by HiFi
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[22:03] <CeilingKitten> there is a github =]
[22:03] <shiftplusone> For anyone playing along at home, https://github.com/hifi/raspbian-ua-netinst
[22:03] <CeilingKitten> xD thats the one!
[22:04] <shiftplusone> ah, I've seen this already
[22:04] <CeilingKitten> he's been making some changes the past few days =], i'm hoping to get some time aside to create my own install script for it
[22:05] <shiftplusone> Ah, so it's not buildroot at all, it's all pure raspbian
[22:05] <CeilingKitten> umm im not that smart so i cant tell but there is buildroot.sh file in the project, ...
[22:06] <shiftplusone> ( http://buildroot.uclibc.org/ )
[22:06] <CeilingKitten> he appears to be downloading all the files and setting up a raspbian distro though
[22:06] <shiftplusone> I like his approach though.
[22:06] <CeilingKitten> ah
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[22:07] <CeilingKitten> yeah, seems to work for what he needs =), he is aiming to make it incredibly user friendly too though
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[22:08] <shiftplusone> Good on him. I don't have the patience for such things myself anymore =(. Before berryboot, I had a little bootloader for dualbooting openelec and other distros, but it was too much of a pain, since there was always more work to do on it. =/
[22:10] <CeilingKitten> I like berryboot but i dont run linux to convert images to berryboot format, i may give it a go though and start converting a bunch
[22:10] <CeilingKitten> I'm making a raspbian pi webpage, locally right now, but prolly host it later
[22:10] <shiftplusone> a blog or a status page sort of deal or what?
[22:12] <CeilingKitten> well i want to do projects page, but also i want to organize my lists of various commands and distros, maybe some tutorials
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[22:13] <shiftplusone> Gadgetoid has a pretty impressive site running on a pi. http://pi.gadgetoid.com/ loads quickly and the content is good too.
[22:13] <RTLShadow> Heyo
[22:13] <shiftplusone> Ahoy
[22:14] <RTLShadow> So what's everyone doing with their pi lately?
[22:14] <Encrypt> Web, Mail, File, Printer Server \o/
[22:14] <shiftplusone> Mine serves as a dust collector for now.
[22:14] <RTLShadow> Neato. I would make my own Mail server/file server but I cannot port forward
[22:15] <CeilingKitten> Encrypt =) nice what kind of mail server?
[22:15] <Encrypt> Postfix + Dovecot
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[22:15] <CeilingKitten> i wanted to run smartermail, but i bet it's a bit too much for the pi
[22:16] <Encrypt> Postfix & Dovecot do the job well :)
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[22:18] <CeilingKitten> i'll give that a look into too
[22:18] <RTLShadow> I'd be up for rwriting my own.
[22:18] <RTLShadow> *writing.
[22:18] * CeilingKitten is going to end up with a stack of pi's eaching running a separate service lol
[22:19] <Encrypt> CeilingKitten, Why?
[22:19] <RTLShadow> I ordered a 500GB HDD and the Pi camera, hoping to do some timelapsing.
[22:20] <RTLShadow> Unfortunately all the projects I want to do require more parts, so I'm sol on there
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[22:21] <acovrig> Is there any way with RPIO (Python) to get the state of an output (Is the LED on or off)?
[22:22] <RTLShadow> I don't know if you can directly, but if you are breadboarding just hook a wire to the breadboard's LED pin and make that an input
[22:22] <RTLShadow> then check that?>
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[22:23] <acovrig> RTLShadow: I don't have enough pins for that, I guess I'll need to make functions for changing the LEDs and have a global variable keep track of it
[22:23] <RTLShadow> ah, oh well
[22:23] <RTLShadow> shift register?
[22:24] <acovrig> RTLShadow: been thinking about getting one (http://www.adafruit.com/products/732)
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[22:25] <RTLShadow> acovrig: check sparkfun too
[22:25] <shiftplusone> Not a shift register, but yes, those are the things to use. However, you should be able to read the output, it would be silly if you couldn't.
[22:25] <CeilingKitten> Encrpt, i dont think i can run them all on one pi :)
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[22:29] <acovrig> I am looking to pan a DSLR with a servo, anyone know where I can get something like http://youtu.be/hBCUbmaOJtM
[22:30] <Encrypt> CeilingKitten, I do run them all on my Pi :p
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[22:31] <CeilingKitten> Encrypt, i was reading your website with google translate earlier =)
[22:31] <Encrypt> :p
[22:31] <CeilingKitten> i got a few pages bookmarked for later =)
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[22:34] <Encrypt> CeilingKitten, Which ones? :p
[22:35] <sqrrl> can stackless be used with raspberry pi?
[22:35] <sqrrl> if so, how
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[22:42] <CeilingKitten> Encrypt, mostly the security ones, and some of the app ones
[22:42] <Encrypt> :)
[22:42] <CeilingKitten> Encrypt, you chose EncFS for ease of use?
[22:43] <CeilingKitten> i've only heard of truecrypt before your page, i guess EncFS is better because its opensource
[22:43] <Encrypt> What do you mean for each of use?
[22:43] <Encrypt> EncFs work well on a Linux Computer :)
[22:43] <CeilingKitten> ease - as in its easy for everyone to use
[22:43] <Encrypt> works*
[22:43] <CeilingKitten> or easier
[22:44] <Encrypt> Oh, I see :p
[22:44] <Encrypt> I had read "for each of use" :p
[22:44] <Encrypt> I would say yes :)
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[22:44] <Encrypt> That's pretty simple to use it
[22:45] <Encrypt> You just have to enter something like "encfs ~/mysecretdataencrypted ~/mysecretdatanotencrypted" and you're done
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[22:47] <rihnapstor> hello.I wish to do a project on raspberry pi.can anyone recommend me any ?
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[22:48] <shiftplusone> rihnapstor, maybe provide a little more info, since that doesn't narrow it down much, heh.
[22:48] <shiftplusone> Do you have a particular area of interest or something you want to learn about?
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[22:49] <rihnapstor> yes shiftplusone.can you suggest projects on AI.
[22:50] <rihnapstor> maching learning
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[22:50] <shiftplusone> Not pi specific, but this comes to mind https://www.coursera.org/course/ml
[22:52] <shiftplusone> A few people here are making robots with roombas >_<, maybe adding a mobile platform and a camera to the pi and trying to make it navigate around the house might be interesting.
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[22:54] <shiftplusone> I see the coursera course has a lecture on autonomous driving there as well
[22:55] <sqrrl> does raspberry pi support "__arm32__", whatever it is?
[22:56] <rihnapstor> yeah and generating virtual design of the house.
[22:57] <rihnapstor> shiftplusone: also do you have ideas of using pi in networking and servers.
[22:58] <shiftplusone> It's much like using a regular computer, just make more lightweight choices (for example, nginx instead of apache).
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[23:02] <rihnapstor> I saw one pi project as full time torrent downloader.
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[23:02] <shiftplusone> easy
[23:03] <rihnapstor> yeah.I am searching one which will make me create somethiing.
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[23:16] <CeilingKitten> rihnapstor, cases are always goot because you learn skills to make em
[23:16] <CeilingKitten> good*
[23:18] <Encrypt> rihnapstor, Build a web server
[23:18] <Encrypt> rihnapstor, You'll learn lots of things
[23:18] <rihnapstor> have done that Encrypt
[23:18] <Encrypt> Mokay... :p
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[23:19] <sqrrl> write a web server
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[23:20] <sqrrl> write a web server using select, then one using green threads, then one using real threads
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[23:20] <sqrrl> in c, python and haskell
[23:21] <rihnapstor> thanks sqrrl.
[23:22] <clever> node(javascript) also allows you to do a purely event driven system
[23:22] <clever> on a single core system, there is relatively little difference between threads and events, if you keep the job size small and check for events often
[23:23] <clever> its just a question of how complex it is to implement each
[23:24] <rihnapstor> pi can be used 24/7.pi can be made as awatch dog.but where ?
[23:25] <clever> rihnapstor: one sec
[23:25] <rihnapstor> ok clever
[23:26] <clever> rihnapstor: https://vile.devlix.dk/blog/2013/07/15/raspberry-pi-setup-pcextreme-dot-nl/ this blog explains a bunch of things, including the watch dog timer
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[23:27] <clever> you basicaly need to 'modprobe bcm2708_wdog', then install&config&run watchdog (a debian package)
[23:27] <clever> every X seconds, the daemon will check things, and tell the watchdog its ok
[23:27] <clever> if things go wrong, it the timer runs out, and it forces a reboot
[23:32] <ShorTie> is there a way to pass a variable into a variable name ??
[23:33] <clever> ShorTie: if your using python, you may want to look at hash tables
[23:33] <ShorTie> i'm working with this adc and trying to track the start/stop times of each channel
[23:33] <ShorTie> this is c
[23:34] <clever> then just use an array
[23:34] <clever> use the channel number as an index into the array
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[23:36] <ShorTie> ok, thankz
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[23:54] <Datalink> hm, does anyone here use a pi for a weather display? and if so, what software?
[23:55] <Firehopper> I dont
[23:55] <Firehopper> I'm not using mine for much of anything atm.. I am waiting for a udoo though
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[23:56] <CeilingKitten> Datalink, i believe i saw a few commandline ones that dumped weather to your MOTD, im not sure about a UI based apps
[23:56] <CeilingKitten> would you be outputing to a local webserver? or just output to screen?
[23:57] <Datalink> to the screen
[23:57] <gyeben> what does "(something) blows squares" mean? (as in the following context: I'm going to sell this computer because it blows squares)
[23:58] <SpeedEvil> chunks
[23:58] <SpeedEvil> 'blows chunks' - would be the more normal phrase.
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[23:58] <SpeedEvil> Just a variant of that.
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[23:59] <Datalink> it implies the something is underperforming to the expectations of the author/speaker

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