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IRC Log for 2013-07-29

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[0:00] <mumixam> benmachine: whats your connection?
[0:00] <mumixam> heres an idea that will save you time
[0:00] <mumixam> use the .torrent this time and have to checksum your current bad file
[0:00] <mumixam> and it should only download the needed chunks
[0:00] <benmachine> the SHA didn't match
[0:00] <mumixam> not the entire file
[0:01] <benmachine> there are only actually two CRCs that failed, recovery.rfs and images/Raspbian.xz
[0:01] <benmachine> can I just, not use those :P
[0:01] <mumixam> so the entire image is bad ;)?
[0:01] <benmachine> the download was actually interrupted, but I resumed it with curl -C -
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[0:01] <ShorTie> ah
[0:01] <mumixam> do you have a torrent client?
[0:02] <benmachine> mumixam: no (not yet! :P)
[0:02] <mumixam> how fast is your internet?
[0:02] <ShorTie> re download with no hiccups, lol.
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[0:03] <benmachine> is there no way I can just download those two specific files (and preferably checksum the rest of them just in case)
[0:03] <benmachine> mumixam: uhm, I forget how fast it claims to be, but curl says 1629k was my average
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[0:04] <ShorTie> check the git rep, or just google for them
[0:04] <mumixam> so what 15minutes
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[0:04] <benmachine> mumixam: well, yeah, unless it interrupts again
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[0:04] <ShorTie> i had to do that once for gentoo, google 1/2 the files for the install, lol.
[0:04] <benmachine> my connection just drops every now and then
[0:05] <ShorTie> no friends around ??
[0:05] <ShorTie> grab a usb drive and go
[0:05] <ShorTie> or library
[0:05] <mumixam> benmachine: just install a torrent client
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[0:06] <mumixam> it checksums each chunk so you know its good
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[0:06] <mumixam> and you wont have to redownload if you do it right
[0:06] <ShorTie> thats the trick, hehe
[0:07] <benmachine> mumixam: will try
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[0:07] <mumixam> i just downloaded the entire thing already
[0:07] <mumixam> recovery.rfs is 18.8MB
[0:07] <mumixam> Raspbian.xz is 336MB
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[0:52] <MightyMu> I just bought a Ubiquiti mPower 8-outlet network-controllable power strip. So I can remotely power off (And, more importantly, power back *on*) my Raspberry Pis. :-D
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[1:37] * [Saint] flies into a seething rage over "Ubiquiti"
[1:38] <MightyMu> o rly?
[1:38] <[Saint]> Deliberately spelling things wrong rubs me up even worse than deliberately silly GNU toolset acronym-names.
[1:38] <MightyMu> oh
[1:38] <MightyMu> whew
[1:39] <MightyMu> sorry about that, then. :)
[1:39] <[Saint]> Not your fault. :)
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[1:42] <MightyMu> I am pretty excited about that product, though
[1:42] <MightyMu> I just hope there's some other way to control it than [redacted]'s web interface. That will work, but I'd prefer something I can automate
[1:43] <[Saint]> should be fairly simple to sniff out the magic happening there.
[1:43] <[Saint]> I'd be a little surprised if no one had already.
[1:44] <MightyMu> my fingers are crossed
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[2:02] <benmachine> okay, so I have a USB mouse but no keyboard, and I have an SSH shell, anyone think they can get me an onscreen keyboard using SSH commands and mouseclicks? (I just installed pidora)
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[2:07] <[Saint]> sudo apt-get install matchbox-keyboard
[2:07] <[Saint]> ...should do the trick.
[2:08] <[Saint]> benmachine: ^
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[2:10] <[Saint]> then, if you really want, you can add a desktop shortcut to launch it:
[2:10] <[Saint]> ooops, not without a keyboard you can't. heh.
[2:10] <benmachine> :P
[2:11] * [Saint] just realized the hilarious failure he made.
[2:11] * ShorTie thinks sudo apt-get mindmelt matchbox-keyboard would be net
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[2:11] <[Saint]> "I need a keyboard"
[2:11] <[Saint]> "Sure, just type...."
[2:11] <[Saint]> "Awwwww.....crap"
[2:11] <benmachine> [Saint]: well, I have an SSH session, so I might be able to
[2:12] <ShorTie> you could just think out the letters
[2:12] <benmachine> unfortunately I went with pidora so I don't get apt
[2:12] * benmachine yum search keyboard
[2:12] <[Saint]> Man. I am *far* too tired.
[2:13] <[Saint]> Of *course* you have a keyboard. D'Oh!
[2:13] <[Saint]> ..just, not on the pi.
[2:13] <benmachine> precisely :)
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[2:14] <[Saint]> For some reason I imagined you sitting staring at an ssh shell prompt clicking aimlessly on a mouse wondering how to do what I told you to do.
[2:14] <benmachine> :D
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[2:23] <benmachine> woop, succesfully logged in with xdotool
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[2:26] <benmachine> although I segfaulted it first try
[2:26] <benmachine> someone has sloppy error-handling :x
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[4:54] <officergris> right now I am trying to compile omxplayer for my rpi
[4:54] <officergris> I am cross compiling, using an image of my RPi's SD card as a build environment, and I get the error
[4:55] <officergris> SubtitleRenderer.h:112:3: error: 'DISPMANX_ELEMENT_HANDLE_T' does not name a type
[4:55] <officergris> does anyone have any advice for how to go about remedying this?
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[5:10] <MightyMu> re: previous mPower discussion: it runs busybox and an sshd. BAM.
[5:11] <MightyMu> "echo 1 > relay3"
[5:11] <MightyMu> It's too easy.
[5:11] <[Saint]> I kinda have the reverse.
[5:11] <[Saint]> I have a pi solely dedicated to switching my servers on and off :)
[5:12] <[Saint]> (not a network connection dedicated to switching my pi on/off :P)
[5:12] <MightyMu> logging in and 'shutdown', then WoL?
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[5:13] <MightyMu> I'll probably also have a shutdown script, because boy am I getting annoyed with corrupted filesystems
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[5:13] <[Saint]> pi controls the server's power/reset switches with relays.
[5:13] <[Saint]> ugly, yet oddly functional.
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[5:14] <MightyMu> [Saint]: oh, nice
[5:14] <MightyMu> normally open, I hope :)
[5:15] <[Saint]> I even have a relay so the pi can reset itself :)
[5:15] <[Saint]> ....absolutely unnecessary!
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[5:15] <[Saint]> (I had an extra relay)
[5:15] <MightyMu> have the watchdog trigger it?
[5:16] <[Saint]> No. I thought about that, but...effort.
[5:17] <MightyMu> I hear ya
[5:17] <[Saint]> Its just a remote "my pi is still responding, but not behaving" "kick in the nuts".
[5:17] <[Saint]> just trips P^, and bam, reset.
[5:17] <MightyMu> how do you avoid frying the filesystem?
[5:17] <[Saint]> *P6, even
[5:17] <[Saint]> Luck.
[5:17] <MightyMu> LOL
[5:17] <MightyMu> no seriously, I just guffawed
[5:19] <[Saint]> I do it "the old fashioned way"...hope, and luck.
[5:19] * LaxWasHere is now known as LaxWasThere
[5:19] <[Saint]> "sync && sync && reset_relay"
[5:20] <[Saint]> I could realistically avoid trashing the fs by running out of RAM entirely, but I haven't done so on this pi yet.
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[5:20] <[Saint]> It just sits in the closet hoping I don't need it.
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[5:21] * [Saint] feels he should clarify that he doesn't mean using all available RAM, but rather, running / out of a tmpfs in RAM.
[5:22] <[Saint]> To do so and actually have it useful is a bit of a task, though.
[5:22] <[Saint]> 512MB max, 16 off to the GPU, and the rest to divide between / and actual RAM...kinda tricky.
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[5:24] <MightyMu> sounds ambitious
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[5:30] <[Saint]> This might offend some, but...here goes:
[5:30] <Blacklite> im offended already
[5:31] <[Saint]> Lots of people treasure their pi(s). I abuse mine. I see them as being cheap enough to be basically disposable. Using them for hilarious things that might render them useless amuses me, and concerns me very little. :)
[5:31] <[Saint]> I figure its fine to blow things up as long as you learn from it.
[5:31] <Blacklite> we buy them in bulk, e.g. 4 at a time
[5:31] <Blacklite> so i'm kinda the same
[5:32] <Blacklite> if we break one, the company sucks up the cost
[5:32] <Blacklite> (not much)
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[5:33] <[Saint]> I spend like 4 times the cost of a pi in a month on takeout coffee (and not even deliberately).
[5:33] <[Saint]> Break one? Maybe slightly adjust some spending. Meh.
[5:34] <[Saint]> It is *awesome* these things are so cheap.
[5:34] <Blacklite> yeah same!
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[5:34] <JakeSays> for me its not breaking it that matters - its the wait for a replacement. patience is not my forte
[5:34] <Blacklite> except i don't have any consequences
[5:34] <Blacklite> yeah that's why we buy them 4 at a time lol
[5:34] <Blacklite> if we break 1, we can order more while we break the other 3
[5:34] <Blacklite> and they don't really break very often
[5:34] <[Saint]> RS is disturbingly efficient at whipping these things across the Pacific to me.
[5:35] <Blacklite> yeah
[5:35] <[Saint]> it takes like 3 days.
[5:35] <Blacklite> i buy them from nicegear.co.nz
[5:35] <[Saint]> from order, to customs, to in my hands in NZ in 3 days.
[5:35] <[Saint]> another NZer?
[5:35] <Blacklite> yes!
[5:35] <Blacklite> wellington
[5:35] <[Saint]> ChCh. :)
[5:35] <Blacklite> ah
[5:36] <[Saint]> How'd you like your earthquake, huh?
[5:36] <Blacklite> meh, 6/10
[5:36] <Blacklite> :P
[5:36] <[Saint]> You guys got a taste of it for a change.
[5:36] <Blacklite> yeah
[5:36] <Blacklite> not fun
[5:36] <[Saint]> Its nice for us here to see others getting it too :P
[5:36] <Blacklite> lucky it's like 50kms into the sea
[5:36] <Blacklite> apparently if that 6.5 was centered under wellington it'd have been probably worse than chch
[5:36] <Blacklite> which makes sense i guess
[5:37] <Blacklite> hopefully we can strengthen our heritage buildings before another one hits
[5:37] <[Saint]> What I found hilarious was the whole "OMG! ChCh got hit REALLY bad....what if it was Wellington? OMG!; does_absolutely_nothing"
[5:37] <Blacklite> so we don't end up in a 'cathedral' situation
[5:37] <Blacklite> yeah but if you look at this one
[5:37] <Blacklite> like the september 2010 quake
[5:37] <Blacklite> the darfield one
[5:37] <Blacklite> it was similar
[5:38] <Blacklite> happened at a time when nobody was at work, and was centreed away from the cbd
[5:38] <Blacklite> *centered
[5:39] <Blacklite> worst things that happened here were, new bnz building interior fell to pieces
[5:39] <Blacklite> and a chunk of the waterfront fell off
[5:40] <[Saint]> ....the library flooded.
[5:40] <[Saint]> that was a bit of a shame.
[5:40] <[Saint]> books+water==sad_books
[5:41] <Blacklite> yes
[5:42] <Blacklite> to be honest
[5:42] <Blacklite> we're all a bit more concerned about the gcsb bill
[5:43] <[Saint]> I liked how quickly NZ went from "OMG! We need to prepare!" to "...we /probably/ should prepare!" to "....well, they kinda stopped, lets wait it out and see" to "Naaaaaaah! She'll be right mate!" :)
[5:44] <Blacklite> yeah lol
[5:44] <[Saint]> re: structural integrity of various CBDs.
[5:44] <Blacklite> btw what do you use your pi's for? i would like to use one of ours to make a scoring system for our foosball table
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[5:46] <[Saint]> One exists solely to switch my servers on and off remotely, one is a tablet-ish kinda touchscren thing, and the others I abuse whenever I get an cunning plan (which usually fails)
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[5:46] <Blacklite> haha
[5:46] <[Saint]> To be perfectly honest, I have failed miserably at doing anything useful with them.
[5:47] <[Saint]> I made an almost useful, slightly more expensive, and all-round generally worse at everything tablet thing.
[5:47] <[Saint]> that's..."useful" :P
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[5:48] <[Saint]> by "generally worse at everything" I mean it gets outperformed by cheap knockoff generic Android tablets.
[5:48] <Blacklite> yeah :|
[5:48] <[Saint]> ...and most cellphones.
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[6:09] <MightyMu> mine are driving LEDs
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[6:19] <[Saint]> You're just following the example The G Man set.
[6:19] <[Saint]> ...let there be light'n'stuff.
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[6:22] <[Saint]> want: "based on 10nm class NAND flash technology and featuring an interface speed of 400MB/s, also having a random read and write speed of 7,000 IOPS whereas sequential reads and writes stand at approximately 250MB/s and 90MB/s respectively."
[6:22] * Shirakawasuna (~Shirakawa@184-77-202-94.war.clearwire-wmx.net) Quit (Ping timeout: 246 seconds)
[6:23] <[Saint]> Samsung's new eMMC5 NAND tech.
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[6:28] <MightyMu> fiat lux
[6:29] <[Saint]> Tu studuit latine?
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[6:30] <MightyMu> Nein
[6:32] <[Saint]> Aber sie wissen etwas Deutsch? :)
[6:33] <[Saint]> Its ok...I'll run out of languages I know very little of soon...
[6:33] <MightyMu> Nyet.
[6:35] <[Saint]> Errrr....жБйфщ? :)
[6:35] <[Saint]> set cyrillic alphabet; mash keypad==Russian.
[6:36] <[Saint]> I'm pretty sure that's how it works. Yeah. That's it.
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[6:40] <MightyMu> да.
[6:43] * [Saint] spots someone with a sane font, the right codepage, and an IRC client that correctly handles weird non-Latin characters.
[6:43] <[Saint]> Well done.
[6:44] <MightyMu> <_<
[6:44] <MightyMu> >_>
[6:44] <[Saint]> That's apparently a rare combination these days.
[6:44] <MightyMu> �ay caramba?
[6:45] <[Saint]> Usually when I try such things I get at least one "What's "■■■■■■■■■" supposed to be?" response. ;)
[6:47] <[Saint]> ■ seems to be the default "Whoahhh! What the?!? Nup...I'm not even going to attempt to display that character, here, have a black box instead" response for many things.
[6:52] <MightyMu> 💩
[6:52] <MightyMu> go for broke, right?
[6:54] * [Saint] headdesks
[6:55] <[Saint]> One of my neighbors is having touble with the streaming server I have set up, after hours and hours and hours of me poking at it - she told me what was wrong:
[6:55] <[Saint]> She flipped the username/password fields around.
[6:55] <MightyMu> haw
[6:55] <[Saint]> they were both "newuser2"
[6:56] <[Saint]> and she "mixed them up"? ...I...uuuughhhh.
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[6:58] <[Saint]> The neighbor on the other side of me moved out, so now I'm down to just three users of my "ISP". I need to do some hyper-local advertising.
[6:59] <[Saint]> (backstory: ancient grandfathered true-unlimited plan that doesn't prohibit subletting)
[7:01] <[Saint]> So for $10 a month my neighbors get all the wireless internet they can eat, 50GB of storage, and (very recently) access to their own accounts on a streaming server they can upload their own content to, or browse through ~1.2TB of my own.
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[7:22] <mumixam> how fast is your line?
[7:23] <[Saint]> 42MB down, 11MB up.
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[7:23] <[Saint]> Not blazing, but, my neighbors have very low requirements.
[7:23] <mumixam> so you sell them wifi for 10usd a month?
[7:23] <[Saint]> NZD
[7:24] <mumixam> how much do you pay
[7:24] <[Saint]> 189/month
[7:24] <mumixam> sounds high
[7:24] <[Saint]> That's Australasia for you. :)
[7:24] <mumixam> ah ok
[7:24] <ShiftPlusOne> mumixam, in our part of the world, bandwidth is worth its weight in gold... or some other comparison that actually makes sense.
[7:25] <[Saint]> Prices here are insane.
[7:25] <mumixam> should charge them more than 10
[7:25] <mumixam> do you limit the speed they can get?
[7:27] <[Saint]> Oh, yes, certainly.
[7:27] <[Saint]> Realistically, the only reason I charge them anything is to go towards hardware replacement.
[7:27] <mumixam> how fast
[7:27] <[Saint]> They end up getting about 4MB down, 1 up.
[7:28] <[Saint]> pretty good for $10, with 50GB storage and their own media server.
[7:28] <mumixam> seems like a good deal
[7:28] <mumixam> is wifi limited to 4mbps or the internet
[7:28] <mumixam> might be hard to stream anything 720p or greater over 4mbps
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[7:30] <[Saint]> Pretty sure no one is using it for video, yet.
[7:31] <[Saint]> But I can bump up the bandwidth to suit individual requirement.
[7:32] <[Saint]> In my last place, a block of apartments, with all my "customers" it worked out I paid about $20~30/month for the connection - here, I'm just doing it because it would go to waste otherwise.
[7:32] <[Saint]> I figure someone else may as well benefit from my "spare" internet.
[7:34] <[Saint]> For ages before that, I had an AP with the broadcast SSID of "FreeWifiForAll"..and no one used it.
[7:34] <[Saint]> As soon as I lock it up and started "selling" it. Bam. The whole apartment block got in on it.
[7:36] <mumixam> lol how did you advertise it
[7:36] <[Saint]> I just printed off some cheesy fliers and stuck them in the mailboxes of the houses within my directional antennas range.
[7:37] <mumixam> hah
[7:37] <mumixam> do you worry about what people 'research' on your internet
[7:37] <[Saint]> at that place, I had about 400m of usable range, and almost 1000m of "connected, but largely useless" range.
[7:37] <mumixam> like torrenting copywrited stuff and what not
[7:39] <[Saint]> Not particularly. I've made it very clear that there's also a (deliberately, much slower) anonymized (is that even a word?) connection available for them as well should they require it.
[7:40] <mumixam> ah hows that work? routed over tor?
[7:40] <[Saint]> You got it.
[7:41] <ShiftPlusOne> And from what I can tell we don't get the 'entertainment industry' going after individuals, at least no successfully =/
[7:41] <[Saint]> Before anyone says it, yes, I am aware that this is rather a lot of effort to go to for no personal gain. :)
[7:43] <[Saint]> ShiftPlusOne: they tried here, ...once.
[7:43] <mumixam> what kind of router and antenna you got
[7:43] <ShiftPlusOne> There was that whole thing with iinet (my ISP) where they refused to hand over information about their customers without a warrant. It went to court and it was ruled that ISPs are not in charge of policing their customers.
[7:45] <[Saint]> I have two TD-W8970, and two 5GHz 24dBi directional antennae
[7:49] <[Saint]> I know the antennae are ridiculous, but I got them foolishly cheap.
[7:49] <[Saint]> Some customer ordered them and never picked them up, dealer sold them to me for $40 a piece.
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[7:50] <[Saint]> s/ordered them/ordered them, and paid in cash, upfront/
[7:52] <rikkib> I have access to heaps of microwave stuff
[7:52] <rikkib> Telco stuff
[7:52] <[Saint]> Can has 5GHz 30dBi+ bi-directional parabolas?
[7:52] <[Saint]> kthanx.
[7:53] <rikkib> Old CDMA stuff prolly
[7:53] <[Saint]> Bah. :P
[7:53] <rikkib> 10ghz some of it looks like
[7:53] <rikkib> dishes you can put your arms around
[7:53] <[Saint]> I can't get nearly the same range in this place as I could in the last place.
[7:54] <[Saint]> Line of sight is very much an issue.
[7:54] <rikkib> Want me to get some numbers for you?
[7:55] <[Saint]> I think Ms [Saint] might throw a fit if I started buying any more network stuffs.
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[7:55] <rikkib> lol
[7:55] <[Saint]> She's already lost the spare room here (which I promised wouldn't happen again...) to my "NOC".
[7:57] <[Saint]> NOC/nerd-pit/man cave/server farm/whatever.
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[8:00] <rikkib> 5cm 5650 to 5850 MHz 3cm 10 000 to 10 500 MHz
[8:00] <[Saint]> I threw out so much gear when we moved here...so much gear. Yet I somehow still managed to occupy most of a large, double room.
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[8:28] <biacz> good morning
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[8:29] <biacz> anyone got miracast to work on RPi? a special dongle (WiDi) is needed i guess. but is the protocol supported by any software out there?
[8:29] <biacz> thanks for any info
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[8:33] <[Saint]> biacz: erslabs offers a server image for the raspberrypi
[8:33] <[Saint]> http://esrlabs.com/android-transporter-for-the-nexus-7-and-the-raspberry-pi/
[8:33] <[Saint]> ctrl+F; "raspberry"; first hit.
[8:34] <[Saint]> coincidentally also the first hit on Google for "raspberry pi+ miracast"
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[8:40] <[Saint]> biacz: does this help you at all?
[8:40] <[Saint]> My assumption is that no one knows Miracast and/or Android Transport better than ERS Labs.
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[8:52] <biacz> [Saint], i obviously found that one too. sadly its not working as it should
[8:52] <biacz> might work with android but i am using Intel WiDi clients (HP elitebook 9470m)
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[8:55] <biacz> thanks for your response anyway!
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[12:46] <ShorTie> blaaa, why is it the easy stuff always so hard for me, lol.
[12:48] <ShorTie> i guess that is why i've learned to take good notes
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[13:08] <Kane> o/
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[13:13] <quackgyver> Anyone know if the Pi is suitable for sharing wifi to many devices?
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[13:14] <ShiftPlusOne> quackgyver, suitable in what way? It's able to, but that might not be what you mean.
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[13:15] <quackgyver> Well, you never know in which case it might fail you. Just asking to see if it's a lost cause from the get-go.
[13:15] <quackgyver> For whatever reason that might be.
[13:15] <linuxstb> It's a lost cause if you want decent performance.
[13:16] <ShiftPlusOne> Yup, it's far from ideal... I wouldn't bother.
[13:17] <quackgyver> Heh.
[13:17] <quackgyver> Alright. :)
[13:17] <dreamreal> quackgyver: you mean, serving as a wifi host?
[13:18] <quackgyver> Yeah I guess.
[13:18] <dreamreal> It's worked for me, consistently - although I've only set up one wifi client
[13:18] <dreamreal> hostapd + udhcpd
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[13:23] <ReggieUK> hi ShiftPlusOne
[13:23] <ShiftPlusOne> howdy
[13:25] <quackgyver> When you talk about performance, are you talking about connection reliability or speed?
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[13:27] <ReggieUK> either most likely
[13:28] <ShiftPlusOne> quackgyver, you will probably find that the wifi chipset will probably make a major difference. And 'course you have to be extra aware of your power supply, since these wifi stick cause all kinds of spikes. I think that if your have a decent hub and a decent wifi stick, you may have a decent, reliable hotspot. However, keep in mind that the ethernet data goes over usb as well, so I am not sure
[13:28] <ShiftPlusOne> how much bandwidth you'll be able to sqeeze out of it.
[13:28] <ShiftPlusOne> So, if you're willing to cope with all that, by all means, give it a go.
[13:30] <ReggieUK> 2 usb ports and the ethernet all sharing the same bandwidth causes issues
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[13:31] <gordonDrogon> afternoon folks.
[13:31] <ShiftPlusOne> And the usb stack has been a little iffy in the past, especially with wifi devices going through a hub. Though that situation has improves and I haven't had any issue with that lately. Just making sure you're aware of all potential issues.
[13:31] <ReggieUK> hi gordonDrogon
[13:31] <ShiftPlusOne> Ey, Gordon
[13:32] <quackgyver> ShiftPlusOne: Well, I'd be doing mobile internet with a 3G modem.
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[13:32] <quackgyver> So my b/w demands aren't that high.
[13:32] <gordonDrogon> I looked at that very scenario recently.
[13:32] <quackgyver> I'd just like to try to build something that doesn't crash or drop every other hour. :)
[13:33] <ShiftPlusOne> So then it would be two high power erratic devices then, heh.
[13:33] <gordonDrogon> I wasn't convinced the Pi is quite ready yet, although I know a huge amount of work has gone into the USB stack recently.
[13:34] <gordonDrogon> I do a lot of stuff with 3G backhaul for "stuff".
[13:34] <ShiftPlusOne> I think it's the sort of thing you should just try and see if it works as you need it to. It's hard to predict how well it will work and then people have different expectations too.
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[13:35] <gordonDrogon> yea, it be be good enough for a small hobby project.
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[13:36] <gordonDrogon> but not for sticking inside a lamppost to offer a commercial service...
[13:37] <gordonDrogon> (which was something I was asked to investigate recently)
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[13:41] <ShiftPlusOne> Hm, I am not entirely against having 1 pi per lamppost. Though that may lead to an increase in lamppost theft =/
[13:42] <gordonDrogon> More likely an increase of SIM card theft - as happened in S. Africa when they installed 3G networked traffic lights (IIRC)
[13:43] <ShiftPlusOne> heh
[13:43] <gordonDrogon> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12135841
[13:44] <ShiftPlusOne> interesting
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[13:50] <ozzzy> my missus collects old cellphones that she recycles... get $1 each for the boy-scouts... I collect the sim cards and sd cards from them
[13:51] <ozzzy> a lot of people leave the cards in... and you'd be amazed at what some folks take pictures of
[13:51] <Matt> I doubt it :)
[13:51] <gordonDrogon> Do they still call them 'boy' scouts in Canada? They dropped that term in 1966 in the UK.
[13:52] <ozzzy> it's just scouts here now... I just stick the 'boy' in for the americans
[13:52] <ozzzy> scouts is fully coed here
[13:52] <gordonDrogon> ok :)
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[13:52] <ShiftPlusOne> No need to pander to the yanks here =P
[13:52] <Matt> lol - the dog has hiccups
[13:53] <gordonDrogon> youtube it. get it viral. it's tomorrows meme...
[13:53] <Matt> nah, he's done now
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[14:07] <quackgyver> ShiftPlusOne, gordonDrogon: Alright, I've noted your comments. I guess I'll play around with it and try to get a feel for whether it'll drive me bonkers or not. :)
[14:07] <quackgyver> Cheers.
[14:07] <davor> hello
[14:07] <ShiftPlusOne> Good luck
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[14:09] <quackgyver> Thanks. :)
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[14:23] <gyeben> hi
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[14:23] <ShiftPlusOne> ey
[14:24] <gyeben> does anyone know how to change one's terminal's background colour?
[14:24] <ShiftPlusOne> Terminal as in a terminal emulator running under X or terminal as in the proper terminal?
[14:25] <pksato> if is console, try setterm -background green
[14:26] <ShiftPlusOne> there's probably some tput magic you can do as well
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[14:29] <gyeben> terminal as in the proper terminal
[14:31] <ShiftPlusOne> did pksato's setterm command work for you?
[14:31] <Matt> setterm -foreground x -background y
[14:32] <Matt> where x and y are one of: black, red, green, yellow, blue, magenta, cyan, or white.
[14:32] <pronto> setterm -celery bagel
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[14:41] <hifi> ozzzy: I've pulled a few SD cards, it's very disturbing
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[14:51] <gyeben> well, I tried setterm -background green, but it didn't work properly
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[14:54] <Matt> why would you want a green background? :)
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[14:57] <gyeben> because I don't like black :)
[14:57] <pronto> DASRACIST
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[15:05] <gordonDrogon> my xterms have a pale yellow background.
[15:05] <gordonDrogon> black text.
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[15:06] <IT_Sean> My terminals are amber text, black background.
[15:06] <IT_Sean> Kickin' it oldschool.
[15:07] <simonwjackson> Des anyone here use deluged on the PI?
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[15:08] <biacz> dont ask meta questions ;o
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[15:11] <simonwjackson> deluged seems to frequently drop all connections. wasnt sure if this was because of the speed of the processor on the PI
[15:12] <IT_Sean> YAY! E14 processed the order i placed LAST WEEK this morning! </eyeroll>
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[15:15] <Matt> lol
[15:15] <Matt> my terminals are mainly black with grey text
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[15:15] <IT_Sean> Got the adafruit display module kit, and a small wifi adapter
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[15:16] <Matt> for the longest time my default xterm colourscheme was white bg with black text and a green cursor
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[15:29] <gordonDrogon> IT_Sean, start playing - test it right away with wiringPi :)
[15:29] <IT_Sean> heh
[15:29] <gordonDrogon> I should write little games for these things...
[15:29] <IT_Sean> I haven't even got it yet.
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[16:45] <IT_Sean> Because i can only poke Element 14 with an angry badger so many times 'fore it gets repetitive
[16:45] * tig| passes IT_Sean an angry weasel
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[16:47] <atouk> in some cultures, only trout is effective
[16:47] <tig|> IT_Sean: try shoving a ferret down their trousers
[16:47] <tig|> although that technically is a sport
[16:48] <IT_Sean> Ew. No. They might enjoy that too much
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[17:03] <LordDoskias> is there anything on the hardware of the rpi that would filter/render multicast unsupported
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[17:08] <murple> I've been working on a project which requires 17 GPIO pins. I'm reached the point where I've started to solder together the components on a perfboard. Before I do that I need to be certain I can use the pins as intended. Is there any chance anyone could give me some advise? I've created a "cheat sheet" for myself which is available here: http://sitadella.com/spimeter/spimeter_cheatsheet.pdf it shows how I plan to use the pins.
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[17:09] <murple> On that sheet, SS1A, SS1B refers to (Seven Segment 1, segment A and B).
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[17:10] <murple> What worries me the most at this time, is that I haven't been able to use GPIO2, physical pin 3 as an input pin. Last I tried, it was at 2.8V when it should have been at 0V and 3.3V was okay.
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[17:14] <gordonDrogon> you can use all 17...
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[17:15] <murple> gordonDrogon: what luck that you're here! Any advice regarding the problems I've experienced with physical pin 3?
[17:15] <gordonDrogon> the 2 I2C pins (gpio 2 & 3) on your document (they are 0 and 1 on a rev 1 Pi - note!) have on-board 1.8K pull-up resistors.
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[17:16] <murple> gordonDrogon: But that doesn't explain the problems I observed does it?
[17:17] <murple> gordonDrogon: A simple resistor wouldn't cause the pin to be at 2.8V when it should be at 0V?
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[17:17] <murple> gordonDrogon: I set the mode of the pin to be "input" and used your gpio utility to verify it. Yet it didn't work properly.
[17:17] <gordonDrogon> yes. your button circuits have too much resistance.
[17:18] <gordonDrogon> dump R1 and R2 and the connection to 3.3v. Just connect those 2 pins via a button to 0v. (you could use a 220Ω resistor if you wanted to be paranoid, but not more)
[17:19] <murple> gordonDrogon: I'm not sure I understand what you mean. This is my first project using a RPi. What do you mean by "dump R1 and R2"?
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[17:20] <gordonDrogon> for the 3 buttons: connect the GPIO pin to the button and then to the 0v line. You do not need anything else.
[17:20] <murple> gordonDrogon: Oh. Forget all the resistors and connect GPIO2 and GPIO3 directly to ground.
[17:20] <gordonDrogon> If you are paranoid about shorting something out, (by making the pin output and pushing the button), then use a 220Ω resistor.
[17:20] <gordonDrogon> connect to ground via the button.
[17:21] <murple> Same for GPIO14 (physical pin 8)?
[17:21] <gordonDrogon> GPIO ---> button ----> 0v
[17:21] <murple> right
[17:21] <gordonDrogon> or: GPIO ---> RRRR ---> button ---> 0v
[17:21] <gordonDrogon> for gpip14 you will need to set the internal pull-up resistor.
[17:21] <gordonDrogon> these buttons will read 1 when not pushed, and 0 when pushed.
[17:21] <gordonDrogon> (assuming push to make buttons)
[17:22] <murple> I realize this is actually very simple, but I'm afraid to screw things up.
[17:22] <gordonDrogon> the worst that can happen is that you blow up a 30 quid Pi.
[17:23] <murple> does this mean the on-board pull-up resistors for GPIO2 and GPIO3 are set by default, but this is not the case for GPIO14?
[17:23] <gordonDrogon> gpio2/3 have 1.8K resistors on the PCB connecting them to +3.3v
[17:23] <murple> gordonDrogon: Well, economically that's not a huge setback, but for my project which I was hoping to have already finished last week, it's a big setback! : )
[17:23] <gordonDrogon> none of the others do, however the Pi has internal pull up (and pull-down) resistors that you can turn on/off as needed.
[17:24] <murple> Okay, that clarifies things a bit.
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[17:24] <gordonDrogon> these pins are the I2C pins - and the I2C bus is designed to need pull-up resistors.
[17:24] <murple> right
[17:24] <gordonDrogon> have you tested the 1-wire sensor yet?
[17:25] <gordonDrogon> I have not used 1w on the Pi yet.
[17:25] <murple> I still don't get why it could show 2.8V when it should have been 0V, but maybe I'm not meant to understand that. If you say this setup should work, then I'll take your word for it.
[17:25] <murple> Yes I have and it worked great!
[17:26] <murple> Once I wired it properly, the device showed up exactly as explained in this tutorial: http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/tutorials/temperature/
[17:28] <murple> I wrote a simple Python script to read the temperature and display it on the two seven segment displays. I was missing one GPIO pin for this project, so I've decided to workaround it by connecting the C-segment of one of the displays directly to 3.3V and that way save a GPIO pin. This means that the temperature will never be e.g. 12C, it will be either 11C og 13C. Not a big deal.
[17:29] <murple> I'm aware there are far better ways of solving this, but I'm trying to keep the hardware as simple as possible with as few wires as possible.
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[17:33] <murple> ...to the soldering iron then!
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[17:39] <gordonDrogon> You have 3.3v going via your 10K resistor and the on-board 1.8K resistor then via your 1K ressitor to 0v.
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[17:40] <gordonDrogon> you need to work out the formulae for resistors in parallel to get the effective resistance of the 10K & 1.8K in parallel, then use that with the standard resistor voltage divider formulate to get the voltage at the gpio pin.
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[17:41] <gordonDrogon> however if you simply look at the ratio of 1.8 to 1, of 3.3v, then you get about 2.5v
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[18:09] <voozl> has anyone tried using native .so files from android on rpi/linux? I'm trying to find an ARM version of FMOD music player (fmod.org), but they do have android support
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[18:12] <voozl> the so files identify as libfmodex.so: ELF 32-bit LSB shared object, ARM, EABI5 version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked, stripped
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[18:30] <mumixam> well depends on what system the lib was compiled on
[18:30] <mumixam> not just the cpu arch but versions of other libs its linked agaisnt
[18:31] <mumixam> but no i havent tried
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[18:33] <voozl> i'll have a go at trying it, at least this confirms the idea isn't completely insane :)
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[19:46] <jcromartie> when I try to make /opt/vc/src/hello_pi/hello_triangle/
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[19:48] <jcromartie> I get an error "/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lilclient"
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[19:49] <jcromartie> this is on the latest raspbian
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[19:51] <jcromartie> hm, I just checked and ilclient is in ../libs
[19:51] <jcromartie> I make'd that and now I can build the other programs
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[20:27] <CiSeR> Hi
[20:28] <mcargile> hello
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[20:47] <Rice14> Really simple question, apologies for being a noob, I installed an OS on an SD card and I'm wondering how to remove it and restore the original size of the card
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[20:49] <IT_Sean> You just want to nuke it?
[20:49] <IT_Sean> You can just format the card with any disk utility.
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[20:50] <Rice14> I tried using the windows formatter
[20:50] <Rice14> But the card is still recognized as being the size of the OS
[20:51] <IT_Sean> did you format the card, or just one partition?
[20:51] <IT_Sean> It sounds like you did not format the entire card.
[20:51] <Rice14> Not really sure, right clicked in my computer and chose "format"
[20:51] <IT_Sean> you formatted the partition, most likely.
[20:52] <IT_Sean> Open a disk utility, and format the entire card.
[20:52] <Rice14> okay, thanks
[20:52] <murple> gordonDrogon: Are you around?
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[20:53] <|PiP|`> is there a channel for the beagleboard?
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[20:54] <murple> pip: There definetly should be. By the way, if you happen to be into computer vision and openCV specifically, you should google Derek Malloy and boneCV. I just watched his video today, he's very good.
[20:57] <gordonDrogon> murple, hello.
[20:57] <murple> gordonDrogon: Hey! I just thought I'd let you know that I got both seven segment displays to work perfectly.
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[20:58] <murple> All soldered up and nice.-
[20:58] <|PiP|`> #beagle
[20:58] <|PiP|`> lol
[20:58] <gordonDrogon> ok, neat.
[20:58] <|PiP|`> im wondering if the beaglebone/raspi can be turned into a chromecast
[20:58] <stapper> Wut
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[20:59] <murple> gordonDrogon: I'm about to solder up those darn buttons now. I set the internal pull up like this right: "GPIO.setup(8,GPIO.IN, pull_up_down=GPIO.PUD_UP)"
[21:00] <|PiP|`> U guys seen the google chromecast coming out?
[21:00] <gordonDrogon> murple, I don't recognise the code - is that wiringPython or RPI.GPIO
[21:00] <murple> pip: I read about it. It's not being sold yet is it?
[21:01] <murple> gordonDrogon: It's supposed to be python code with physical pin numbering.
[21:01] <gordonDrogon> murple, sure, but which library?
[21:01] <|PiP|`> murple: no, but would be cool to turn the raspi into one
[21:01] <murple> import RPi.GPIO as GPIO
[21:01] <|PiP|`> prolly be faster over ethernet too
[21:02] <murple> pip: ok
[21:02] <gordonDrogon> murple, ok. here was me thinking you were using my wiringPi too )-:
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[21:02] <murple> gordonDrogon: I'm using that as well, but for the time being mostly for testing and debugging. The GPIO utility is very convenient.
[21:02] <murple> gordonDrogon: It should definetly be included on the RPi by default.
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[21:03] <gordonDrogon> murple, your next task is to drive 2 7-segment displays using only 9 pins :)
[21:04] <murple> gordonDrogon: Right, not anything I'm about to tackle any time yet. So with regards to the code line I posted above, that looks okay?
[21:05] <gordonDrogon> murple, I don't know - I don't program in Python, but if it works for you, then that's fine.
[21:06] <murple> gordonDrogon: Oh I see. Well I haven't tested it yet. I was hoping for confirmation that it looked okay before I tested.
[21:06] <murple> gordonDrogon: I suppose I'll just have to jump in it and hope that all goes well.
[21:07] <murple> brb
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[21:23] <davor> trying to build OpenEmbedded... can't boot it for some reason
[21:24] <davor> the ACT LED lights up for a few seconds and that's it, no composite output
[21:24] <murple> gordonDrogon: Forgive me if you find this utterly disinteresting but: It's working!! Woohoo!
[21:27] <gordonDrogon> murple, excellent :)
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[21:27] <Matt> murple: we always like to hear success :)
[21:28] <murple> well in that case listen up:
[21:28] <murple> Shaaahooooyeeeaaahhhh!!!!!!!!
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[21:30] <murple> ...and it's off to the soldering station again....
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[21:34] <cptcotton> Moin Moin, I am doing my first steps with my Raspberry Pi and the Pi Cam an have a problem of which I don't know if it is Linux related or raspistill related. I want to create a time lapse and use the "%04d"-variable in the raspistill comand to get different filenames but just creates one file where the %04d is not replaces. eg it creates a file calles "pic%04d.jpg" instead of "pic0001.jpg". Anyone has a hint for me?
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[21:34] <poli> gordonDrogon: Did you change the style of the gpio readall output back to what it was before? Or am I mixing up versions?
[21:35] <gordonDrogon> poli, there was a change, briefly. try gpio nreadall to see the new format I'm playing with.
[21:35] <gordonDrogon> or gpio -g nreadall or gpio -p nreadall
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[21:36] <gordonDrogon> er, not -p but -1
[21:36] <gordonDrogon> I'm not sure about the new layouts - feeback welcome.
[21:37] <poli> gordonDrogon: oh I like this one better. :) I just re-generated a release that wiped all my libs and installed new ones, and seeing the "old" result format I thought I might have messed with versions for the release.
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[21:38] <poli> gordonDrogon: thanks
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[21:39] <gordonDrogon> poli, you like the nreadall?
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[21:41] <poli> gordonDrogon: yes!
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> ok.
[21:42] <poli> gordonDrogon: much easier than having to open the pin diagrams everytime.
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[21:42] <gordonDrogon> do you use any peripherals like mcp23017, etc ?
[21:42] <gordonDrogon> as readall will now read them too.
[21:42] <poli> I use a DS18B20 at the time. :)
[21:43] <gordonDrogon> that's 1W - wiringPi doesn't touch that stuff.
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[21:44] <poli> gordonDrogon: I know, but very nice to have it reading extensions. I have a gertboard I bought for development, but ended up doing the circuit on a perforated board.
[21:44] <poli> I do intend to develop on the gertboard as soon as I finish the release I am working on.
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[21:48] <IT_Sean> WOO!
[21:48] <IT_Sean> My E14 order shipped (finally!)
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[21:51] <bennypr0fane> hello, does anyone know whether RaspBMC has the same raspi-config utility as Raspbian?
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[21:56] <HenningD> Hello! My raspberry goes crazy (pi@raspberrypi ~ $ sudo reboot /sbin/reboot: 1: /sbin/reboot: Syntax error: word unexpected (expecting ")")) - because all my files are missing, I think the filesystem has crashed. How could that happen? I took care not to unplugg the device before shutting it down... And how can I prevent it? (It happend already the second time)
[21:58] <bacobart> don't overclock it?
[21:59] <HenningD> I don't think I have overclocked it, but I am not able to proof it, because raspi-config does not run either
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[21:59] <djshotglass> good day
[21:59] <djshotglass> i have some electricity relation questions
[21:59] <djshotglass> i have 200 1.5 volt batteries
[21:59] <djshotglass> each one is about the size of a dvd player
[21:59] <djshotglass> i think they are 30 amps? whatever that means
[22:00] <djshotglass> my question is using 3 of them to make 4.5volts
[22:00] <djshotglass> am i going to blow up my pi?
[22:00] <HenningD> no
[22:00] <djshotglass> while bridging them i melted a piece of metal
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[22:00] <IT_Sean> 4.5v will not run a raspi
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[22:01] <djshotglass> i really thing the pi is just going to melt too lol
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[22:01] <IT_Sean> The acceptable range for the raspberrypi is 4.75v to 5.25v.
[22:01] <IT_Sean> Ideal is 5v
[22:01] <djshotglass> well its 4.5 or 6
[22:01] <djshotglass> can only step in 1.5s
[22:02] <IT_Sean> 4.5 is too low, it will not run properly. Probably wont run at all. 6v will fry it
[22:02] <IT_Sean> I would recommend going higher, and using a voltage regulator to achieve the correct 5v
[22:02] <atouk> not knowing what 30 amps means, melting metal across battery terminals... best stick with recommended power supplies until you crack a few books
[22:02] <IT_Sean> ^that
[22:02] <IT_Sean> It sounds like you don't really know what you are doing. No offense... we just don't want you to break your raspi.
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[22:03] <atouk> or start fires. high capicity batteries can also explode an cause serious injury
[22:03] <HenningD> the ampere number does not play a role for batteries: Its the maximum current you can draw. If you connect plus with minus, the current will be limited by the maximum current of your power source
[22:04] <djshotglass> how should i convert it then
[22:04] <djshotglass> or whatever
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[22:04] <HenningD> if your raspi takes more power than your power source provides, the power source will burn. But since the rpi wont take more than 2 amps, 30 amps should be enaugh ;)
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[22:04] <IT_Sean> djshotglass: do you know how to properly set up a voltage regulator?
[22:05] <djshotglass> i know nothing
[22:05] <djshotglass> programmer
[22:05] <IT_Sean> Then buy a premade and approved power supply for your raspi.
[22:05] <djshotglass> would rather just buy one
[22:05] <djshotglass> if they make em
[22:05] <gordonDrogon> djshotglass, do you have a photo of these batteries?
[22:05] <bacobart> the programmer way of doing things (trial and error) can be become costly when applied to hardware :P
[22:05] <IT_Sean> ^ that
[22:05] <djshotglass> i do not have them here they are at home
[22:05] <atouk> http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3433933
[22:05] <IT_Sean> Any phone charger rated at 1A or more will do.
[22:05] <IT_Sean> you want 5v @ 1A
[22:06] <djshotglass> i have a power supply for it buy they expect 110v input
[22:06] <IT_Sean> And you want a battery?
[22:06] <IT_Sean> ...?
[22:07] <djshotglass> bridging 73 together is best way?
[22:07] <djshotglass> with a normal wall power source?
[22:07] <IT_Sean> Just stop. Just stop before you gurt yourself.
[22:07] <IT_Sean> No.
[22:07] <cptcotton> Nobody got an idea? Even not if it is linux related or raspistill related?
[22:07] <IT_Sean> Because now you are getting into voltage ranges that can KILL YOU.
[22:07] <djshotglass> :o
[22:07] <gordonDrogon> I'm trying to find a battery that's the size of a dvd player...
[22:07] <atouk> plus you want 110 AC, not 110 DC
[22:07] <IT_Sean> If you absolutly must have a battery, use a 12v pack, and run it through a USB car adapter thinger.
[22:08] <IT_Sean> that will give you the 5v you need for the raspi
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[22:08] <djshotglass> is that efficent?
[22:08] <atouk> very
[22:08] <djshotglass> or will i be burning up battery power just convetting
[22:08] <djshotglass> converting
[22:09] <IT_Sean> djshotglass: No matter what you do you will need to use some form of voltage regulation.
[22:09] <IT_Sean> One does not simply whack together a bunch of batteries and plug it into a raspi. Things go *BANG* when you do that.
[22:10] <atouk> most cars have systems that never shut off (alarms, computers, etc) and go months without problems. a pi running orr of a USB charging adaptor won't be a big deal off a 12v batt. even a small gel type
[22:10] <djshotglass> i absolutly must have a battery there will only be solar power source and it needs to run 24/7
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[22:11] <IT_Sean> djshotglass: ok, you are going to need a 12v pack, a charging circuit, a LARGE solar panel, and a 12v to 5v voltage regulator
[22:11] <djshotglass> so ill bridge 8 1.5
[22:11] <djshotglass> thats safe?
[22:11] <gordonDrogon> djshotglass, the size of a DVD player? 1.5 volts?
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[22:11] <djshotglass> yes gordonDrogon
[22:11] <gordonDrogon> can't find anything that matches.
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[22:12] <IT_Sean> 1.5*8 is 12v. You will need a 12v ->5v regulator for the raspi
[22:12] <djshotglass> they are industial i got them from a old power backup system
[22:12] <IT_Sean> You will still also need a charging controller and a BIG solar panel.
[22:12] <djshotglass> so 240amps wont burn out the car charger usb thing
[22:13] <djshotglass> for the pi
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> an ignition cell?
[22:13] <gordonDrogon> are hey rechargable?
[22:13] <djshotglass> yes
[22:13] <djshotglass> rechargable
[22:13] <djshotglass> not sure if ignition cell
[22:13] <IT_Sean> what chemestry are they?
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[22:13] <djshotglass> they are clear
[22:14] <IT_Sean> ...
[22:14] <djshotglass> looks like just water in them
[22:14] <gordonDrogon> ah.
[22:14] <IT_Sean> are they LiIon, LiPoly, lead acid... ?
[22:14] <gordonDrogon> they'll be 2 volt wet cells.
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[22:14] <djshotglass> yeah i got someon my hand it burnt
[22:14] <djshotglass> some sort of acid
[22:15] <IT_Sean> >_<
[22:15] <gordonDrogon> how old are you djshotglass ...
[22:15] <djshotglass> 25 xD
[22:15] <IT_Sean> djshotglass: you really strike me as the sort thaty should NOT be playing with electricity.
[22:15] <djshotglass> doubtfull to see 26
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[22:15] <gordonDrogon> 25 and you don't know what type of acid is in a lead acid battery.
[22:15] <gordonDrogon> it's sulphuric acic.
[22:15] <davor> even that it is acid!
[22:15] <davor> it's not just water!
[22:16] <davor> good idea to be careful around that stuff
[22:16] <IT_Sean> djshotglass: for your own protection, i am going to stop giving you advice on how to build a battery backed raspi. Please... go to your local library and do some research on this sort of thing before you really hurt yourself.
[22:16] <djshotglass> this is my inital step in research
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[22:17] <djshotglass> i have not hooked anything up yet nor to i plan to
[22:17] <djshotglass> until i understand it
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[22:17] <pksato> lead acid battery cell have ~2V.
[22:17] <atouk> this is exactly why schools need more "hands on" education, and less "touchy feely" cources.
[22:17] <gordonDrogon> 2v open wet cells. they're quite rare now.
[22:17] <djshotglass> gordonDrogon i put calcuim cream on it after i got it on my hand
[22:18] <atouk> (courses)
[22:18] <djshotglass> i have worked with lead and sulphuric acid
[22:18] <Simon-> why do you have 200 batteries?
[22:18] <pksato> best, and quick way to power rpi from batt, use a car 12V to USB adapter.
[22:18] <IT_Sean> djshotglass: I don't mean to offend, but, you don't even seem to grasp the concept of the difference between AC and DC, which is pretty darn basic. I really suggest you read up on the basics of electricity and such before you do any more playing with batteries.
[22:18] <mgottschlag> +1
[22:19] <mgottschlag> also, why not just 1-2 batteries and a boost converter? :)
[22:19] <jcromartie> why is this so hard… wire a number of 1.5V batteries in parallel to get more mah out of them
[22:19] <atouk> the best and safest thing you can do with those batteries is to take them to scrap yard and get a few pennies a pound for the lead
[22:19] <mgottschlag> (given that these batteries sound large enough, and lead-acid can provide enough current)
[22:19] <jcromartie> wire the 1.5V circuits in serial to get ~5V
[22:20] <jcromartie> I don't know if it will totally fail at 4.5 or 6 volts
[22:20] <IT_Sean> it will.
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[22:20] <djshotglass> what will
[22:20] <IT_Sean> the acceptable input range, as i said, is 4.75v to 5.25v
[22:20] <djshotglass> sorry disconnected
[22:20] <IT_Sean> the raspi will.
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[22:20] <djshotglass> didnt see it
[22:20] <mgottschlag> always keep the voltage between 4.75V-5.25V
[22:20] <mgottschlag> oops
[22:20] <mgottschlag> I am slow today
[22:21] <djshotglass> <atouk> (courses)
[22:21] <IT_Sean> heh
[22:21] <djshotglass> last message i got
[22:21] <mgottschlag> djshotglass: there is an irc log in the topic I think which should be up-to-date?
[22:21] <IT_Sean> it will be
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[22:22] <jcromartie> can you use a simple voltage regulator?
[22:22] <atouk> the only voltage you will get with those batteries are multiples if 1.5, and then yo need a regulator, and then a recharging solution... If you really don't know where to start with those, you really shouldn't
[22:22] <djshotglass> <Simon-> why do you have 200 batteries?
[22:22] <djshotglass> they were given to me
[22:22] <mgottschlag> jcromartie: yes, sure
[22:22] <djshotglass> i have 200 more coming in about a year too
[22:22] <gordonDrogon> djshotglass, how did you know they were 1.5v each?
[22:22] <djshotglass> they swap em out every 5 years
[22:22] <djshotglass> gordonDrogon volt meter
[22:22] <atouk> djshotglass> <atouk> (courses) <-- this is the internet, spelling is optional ;)
[22:22] <gordonDrogon> intersting.
[22:22] <Simon-> djshotglass: dispose of them properly?
[22:22] <djshotglass> and the guy who give them to me told me
[22:22] <jcromartie> I feel like any solution that involves a wall-plug or car adapter is a bit much of a hack
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[22:23] <jcromartie> except from an actual car battery
[22:23] <djshotglass> Simon- i am going off the grid soon
[22:23] <jcromartie> but even then
[22:23] <jcromartie> those car batteries are serious business
[22:23] <Simon-> jcromartie: an adapter will be required to regulate the volatge
[22:23] <mgottschlag> heh, if I had some of these batteries, I'd probably have some use for them :)
[22:23] <Simon-> it's not going to stay in a reasonable range by itself regardless of the nominal voltage of the battery
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[22:24] <gordonDrogon> wet cells that produce 1.5v are possibly. to be NiFe cells - with an alkaline electrolyte.
[22:24] <pksato> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fj5BLo27ywhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fj5BLo27yw
[22:24] <pksato> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fj5BLo27yw
[22:24] <gordonDrogon> they use them on the local steam railway.
[22:24] <djshotglass> gordonDrogon all i know is they are insanely expensive lol
[22:25] <jcromartie> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/78xx
[22:25] <djshotglass> i will get you pics got an email?
[22:25] <mgottschlag> jcromartie: you need a large heatsink for a 78xx :)
[22:25] <gordonDrogon> yes, if they are, then they are pretty rate too, but they do last 20 years.
[22:25] <jcromartie> you could wire up 1.5Vs to provide 9V for the 7805
[22:25] <mgottschlag> you want a switching regulator, there are tons on ebay
[22:25] <jcromartie> 7.5 minimum technically
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[22:26] <jcromartie> but why not keep it nice and even at 9V with 1.5 * 6
[22:26] <mgottschlag> 9V means that the 7805 dissipates 4W, that's enough to get pretty warm, and too much that the 10$ for a switching converter isn't worth it
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[22:26] <gordonDrogon> http://www.nickel-iron-battery.com/
[22:27] <gordonDrogon> use this rather than a 7805: http://uk.farnell.com/xp-power/sr10s05/switching-regulator-5v-1a-o-p/dp/1861095?Ntt=sr10s05
[22:27] <mgottschlag> or this for e.g. 4.5V http://www.ebay.de/itm/DC-DC-Voltage-Module-Auto-Converter-1-25V-26V-To-3-5V-28V-Boost-Buck-Solar-Panel-/251299197503?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_77&hash=item3a8299723f
[22:28] <mgottschlag> (although the efficiency of course will be lower)
[22:28] <pksato> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMy2_qNO2Y0
[22:28] <mgottschlag> oops... you should find the same on ebay.com of course :)
[22:29] <pksato> xV to 5V smpsu, from sone car adappter http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/42/3d9o.jpg/
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[22:33] <henningd> @bacobart: My rpi runs at 800 Mhz, so I dont think overclocking made my pi that crazy that it crashes the file system.
[22:33] <henningd> Because I dont want to reinstall the OS every month, how can I prevent the filesystem blowing up?
[22:33] <steve_rox> use less explosives
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[22:34] <djshotglass> henningd buy something other than a pi
[22:35] <djshotglass> pi can only boot from sd
[22:35] <djshotglass> famous for failing storage
[22:35] <IT_Sean> actually, henningd could move his home directory to USB storage
[22:35] <djshotglass> its designed to be cheap not stable
[22:35] <atouk> put root on a usbhd
[22:35] <djshotglass> well yeah you could use berry boot or whatever and boot from usb
[22:35] <IT_Sean> He would still need to /boot from the SD card, but, he wouldn't loose his files if the SD became corrupt
[22:36] <djshotglass> sd would probably last longer with only reads
[22:36] <djshotglass> but who knows how much
[22:36] <djshotglass> its still sd
[22:36] <henningd> so usb storage is more stable than sd cards - I thought both are flash devices?
[22:36] <rikkib> I use nfs to create a more RPi
[22:36] <rikkib> stable
[22:36] <djshotglass> with usb you could use a actuall hard drive henningd
[22:36] <djshotglass> raid even
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[22:37] <atouk> i've been running an old maxtor usbhd for over 6 months without a single corrupt file
[22:38] <henningd> are usb harddrives more stable than usb sticks? - I don't need that much storage.
[22:38] <steve_rox> id say yes
[22:39] <atouk> (not counting the ones i've corrupted myself)
[22:39] <steve_rox> better for data recovery :-P
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[22:40] <henningd> ok, I'll give it a try - thank you very much!
[22:40] <nsgn> what's the max amps i can safely pull from the pi's USB port assuming i have a decent (1A or 2A) power supply coming into the pi?
[22:40] <nsgn> i understand the overall load (pi + accessory) cant exceed my main power supply but i wanted to ensure i dont burn something on the pi if the pi has a limit on what it can pass through USB
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[22:40] <gordonDrogon> nsgn, about 0.2 amps.
[22:41] <nsgn> oh wow, really?
[22:41] <steve_rox> 200ma
[22:41] <nsgn> snap. good to know
[22:41] <IT_Sean> If you want to use a high craw device with the Pi, you are best off using a powered hub
[22:42] <nsgn> yeah. i'm putting together a setup where several pi drive several monitors. a few of the monitors are hdmi/dvi natively, but a few require hdmi to vga adapters since they are existing vga only screens. the adapters are powered (since i've heard bad things about unpowered hdmi to vga adapters burning out the pi's hdmi port), but they take power by USB so i'm calculating if i can power them off the pi's USB or if i've gotta go external
[22:43] <nsgn> obviously external is best, but it increases the number of darn little USB charging blocks i have around
[22:43] <nsgn> it's surprisingly hard to find reasonably priced chargers that offer more than 1 decently powered usb port. most powered USB hubs seem to offer only 0.5a per port. fine for an accessory...but the pi itself is hungrier than that
[22:43] <IT_Sean> you only need 1 USB charging block. Use it to power the powered hub, then power the Pi from the powered hub!
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[22:44] <IT_Sean> obv. you will need a powered hub that can power the Pi
[22:44] <mgottschlag> nsgn: most very cheap usb hubs don't care about the maximum current :)
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[22:44] <nsgn> mgottschlag, well most very cheap hubs i find only have a power block that supplies 1a.
[22:44] <nsgn> can't draw it out of nowhere :)
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[22:45] <nsgn> plug in two pi and you're done
[22:45] <x29a> the anker packs have a 2A outlet
[22:45] <x29a> oh wait, its not about batteries?
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[22:45] <nsgn> basically i'm trying to power 4 pi and 3 accessories
[22:45] <nsgn> without having two power strips full of wall warts
[22:46] <atouk> with a little surgery, you can modify the external HD to supply 5v on the usb to power the pi
[22:46] <nsgn> eh?
[22:46] <steve_rox> is that the usb back power?
[22:46] <IT_Sean> yah
[22:46] <IT_Sean> perfectly acceptable on a rev 2 board
[22:47] <nsgn> not sure i follow
[22:47] <steve_rox> it means shove power into the rpi usb and it runs
[22:47] <nsgn> oh
[22:47] <nsgn> hmm. what would even shove power back into it? what powered accessory would do that? some hubs?
[22:48] * IT_Sean dies
[22:48] <steve_rox> i have not tryed it myself
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[22:48] <atouk> external devices are usually "slave" devices that draw 5v from the hub or computer. if you make the +5 in the hard drive hot, then it will backfeed the pi and power it
[22:48] <steve_rox> how kind of you
[22:49] <nsgn> oh. so no mod to the pi, but mod the external accessory
[22:49] <mgottschlag> nsgn: no idea, I have a cheap 14port usb hub with 3.5A power supply :)
[22:49] <nsgn> mgottschlag, oh? have a link or model? been trying to find one that has specs like that
[22:49] <atouk> just be sure you know your +5 from your -5
[22:50] <nsgn> atouk, yeah. i get it now. good to store away in my mind somewhere tho this project doesnt use a hard drive. cool trick i guess for the future
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[22:51] <mgottschlag> nsgn: german only... http://www.ebay.de/itm/Xystec-Aktiver-13-Port-USB2-0-Hub-Shisan-Netzteil-/370668563001
[22:52] <nsgn> ah
[22:52] <mgottschlag> but I bet you will find the same model with different name somewhere else
[22:52] <atouk> you may also want to switch it (in case yo uwant to use it somewhere else) and add a fuse (just in case)
[22:52] <nsgn> i found http://www.amazon.com/EZOPower-Charger-Adapter-Samsung-Optimus/dp/B00D35I1WS/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1375129742&sr=1-3&keywords=4+port+4+amp
[22:52] <nsgn> plenty of power, tho not as many ports. i'd never overload it even if used with 4 pi, tho
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[22:55] <bennypr0fane> hello, does anyone know whether RaspBMC has the same raspi-config utility as Raspbian?
[22:57] <atouk> don't know, try asking in #raspbian
[22:57] <davor> has anyone tried building oe-core for the rpi? I can't get the thing to boot
[22:57] <atouk> or in #raspbmc
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[23:12] <cptcotton> I am doing my first steps with my Raspberry Pi and the Pi Cam an have a problem of which I don't know if it is Linux related or raspistill related. I want to create a time lapse and use the "%04d"-variable in the raspistill comand to get different filenames but just creates one file where the %04d is not replaced. eg it creates a file calles "pic%04d.jpg" instead of "pic0001.jpg".
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[23:13] <gordonDrogon> cptcotton, are you using a shell script?
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[23:14] <cptcotton> no, do i have to?
[23:14] <gordonDrogon> no - just wondering how you're driving the raspstill command.
[23:15] <gordonDrogon> raspistill -o pic%04d.jpg ?
[23:16] <cptcotton> I just opend a ssh session an entered the command "raspistill -o /home/pi/smbshare/CAM/pic%04d.jpg -t 5000 -rot 90"
[23:16] <gordonDrogon> ok
[23:16] <gordonDrogon> that's not going to give you a sequence.
[23:17] <cptcotton> I am not to familia with linux. Do I have to use a for-loop?
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[23:18] <gordonDrogon> that's one way - e.g. for i in `seq 0 10`; do echo $i ; done
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[23:18] <gordonDrogon> then you progress to: for i in `seq 000 0010`; do printf "%04d\n" $i ; done
[23:19] <gordonDrogon> although you don't use 000 just 0.
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[23:19] <gordonDrogon> then something like: for i in `seq 000 0010`; do raspistill -o `printf "%04d" $i` ; done
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[23:20] <gordonDrogon> actually, maybe: for i in `seq 000 0010`; do raspistill -o pic`printf "%04d" $i`.jpg ; done
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[23:20] <cptcotton> Thx gordonDrogon! I'll try that
[23:20] <gordonDrogon> substitute echo for raspistill -o to check it first.
[23:21] <gordonDrogon> for i in `seq 0 10`; do echo pic`printf "%04d" $i`.jpg ; done
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[23:22] <gordonDrogon> you might want to put a sleep in there too - e.g.
[23:22] <gordonDrogon> for i in `seq 0 10`; do echo pic`printf "%04d" $i`.jpg ; sleep 5 ; done
[23:22] <cptcotton> oh sh**, I just found the mistake....
[23:22] <gordonDrogon> cptcotton, family friendly here and we don't like stared words either.
[23:22] <cptcotton> I was looking for nearly 2 h for it and just saw the big mistake
[23:23] <cptcotton> I forgot the "-tl 5000" option
[23:23] <gordonDrogon> please read: http://alturl.com/jc97e
[23:23] <cptcotton> Ups, sorry
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[23:34] <Firehopper> anyone know how to install the arduino ide on the pi?
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[23:34] <cart_man> Has anybody ever use Seriel comms in C before with raspbian ?
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