#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-07-31

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[0:27] <ShorTie> woohoo, had to add 'wireless-essid Connect_for_Free_Virus' to interfaces
[0:29] <tig|> ShorTie: there are still plenty of old xp machines out there and their default behaviour was to latch onto the strongest network they could connect to
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[0:31] <tig|> SSIDs be damned :)
[0:31] <ElTimo> In case anyone was wondering, the raspi makes a great XMPP server.
[0:31] <tig|> has anyone discovered if it could be a miracast adaptor?
[0:31] <ElTimo> I've been wondering about that.
[0:32] <chithead> http://xkcd.com/341/
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[0:32] <tig|> I am not sure if the whole thing lives in software or hardware
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[0:33] <coolty> would one of these work easily with the rPI? http://www.ebay.ca/itm/130906317995
[0:33] <coolty> it says analog spi
[0:35] <chithead> try it and add the results here http://elinux.org/RPi_Screens#Interfacing_to_non-monitor_LCD_panels
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[0:39] <mgottschlag> that display really is cheap
[0:39] <mgottschlag> and it should work
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[0:41] <SpeedEvil> There is no such thing as analog SPI
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[0:42] <Vibe> yeah! got it working!
[0:43] <Vibe> fsck was enough :p
[0:43] <Vibe> that thing that couldn't see with fdisk was cos of my n900 card reader
[0:44] <Vibe> now I will make backup of sd content
[0:44] <Vibe> thx!
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[1:28] <davor> hm. it seems I have a powered USB hub, but no power supply
[1:28] <davor> rated at 5V, 2.1A
[1:29] <Quozl> that rating is for a four port hub at 500mA per port, plus 100mA for the hub chip.
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[1:30] <davor> thanks. that might be enough for a few peripherals
[1:30] <Quozl> yes, peripherals often draw less than that.
[1:31] <davor> webcam, wifi stick, USB DAC
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[1:36] <davor> hmm, problem is I have no idea where to find such a power supply
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[1:37] <Quozl> davor: what country? there are usually plenty. the voltage spec is usually 5V plus or minus 10%, the current spec is a minimum. the connector is the usual problem.
[1:37] <davor> croatia Quozl. ah, so I can use a 3A power supply rated at 5V or something?
[1:39] <Quozl> davor: yes, certainly, as long as the power supply delivers between 4.75V and 5.25V over the current range 100mA to 2.1A it should be fine. A "regulated" and "switch mode" supply would do this best.
[1:39] <davor> mmm, I see
[1:40] <Quozl> davor: i'm familiar with the problem ... there are sold many USB hubs that have a socket for external power, but no power supply in the packaging. this is because the power supply is costly, and requires safety certification.
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[1:41] <davor> ahh, that makes sense
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[1:46] <davor> hmph, found a 5-15V AC/DC 3A power adapter, for about $40
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[1:51] <davor> hm, seems I can't make off with an adapter like that without spending at least $40
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[1:53] <davor> regarding the connector, I have some 4.5V 300mA AC/DC adapter from lord knows what (a discman I think) that hasn't been used in possibly over a decade with an appropriate one so I can just use that
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[1:57] <Quozl> davor: i would check the voltage of an old discman adapter before using it; it is unlikely to be regulated, so the voltage may be up to 9V with no load, and this may damage the hub or devices.
[1:58] <davor> oh no I mean I would just cut off the connector and use it with an appropriate power supply
[1:58] <davor> if the appropriate power supply comes with an inappropriate connector
[1:59] <Quozl> davor: yep, good.
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[2:03] <davor> "Deanna Troi has been at the Enterprise helm twice, in Generations and Nemesis - she crashed it both times." haha
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[2:47] <Prinler> howdy guys
[2:47] <davor> hi Prinler
[2:47] <Prinler> Any pi gamers online?
[2:47] <Prinler> There is an issue with the pi and ps3 controlers now.
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[2:49] * ozzzy has no ps3
[2:50] <Prinler> i has no ps3 either
[2:50] <Prinler> but i purchased 2 of the controlers just for my retropie project.
[2:50] <Prinler> come to find out they no longer work...
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[2:51] <Prinler> someone can fix it but its not me :(
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[3:02] <Prinler> anyone here a pro with bluetooth?
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[3:06] <Prinler> :)
[3:06] <pksato> pro?
[3:10] <Prinler> well
[3:10] <Prinler> someone smarter then me lol
[3:12] <pksato> bluetooth is annoying to use/configure.
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[3:14] <ozzzy> I generally rip it out of kernels
[3:16] <Prinler> yeah well it is key to using a bluetooth game controler to play games on my emulators :p
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[5:02] <MrKeuner> hello, I have my second raspberry pi. I was using the first one as a server, and would like to use the second one the as a second server. Cloned the sdcard and changed the hostname in the second one. What else should I do? regenerate keys?
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[5:04] <Quozl> MrKeuner: yes.
[5:05] <MrKeuner> Quozl, would that be all? Do I need to update NIC entries, etc?
[5:05] <Quozl> MrKeuner: may help, yes. i'll just turn one on and check for you.
[5:06] <MrKeuner> I appreciate it
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[5:09] <Quozl> MrKeuner: rm /etc/ssh/ssh_host* /var/lib/alsa/asound.state
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[5:09] <Quozl> MrKeuner: nothing else springs to mind, unless you have some extra apps installed.
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[5:09] <Quozl> MrKeuner: I was worried about persistent net rules in udev, but i find none. (this was a problem i faced on earlier debian systems, but it appears to be fixed).
[5:10] <MrKeuner> cool. curious though, why removing alsa.state
[5:10] <Quozl> habit.
[5:10] <devslash> does anyone here use lxde on their pi ?
[5:10] <Quozl> i don't want my volume settings to be copied from system to system.
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[5:11] <MrKeuner> Quozl, hehe ok...
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[5:24] <MrKeuner> Quozl, seems like deleting ssh_host_* did not play well. i get Read from socket failed: Connection reset by peer, after a reboot
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[5:25] <MrKeuner> can it be still generating the keys
[5:25] <Quozl> MrKeuner: where did that message appear? It can take a while. I'll try it myself.
[5:25] <MrKeuner> Quozl, when trying to ssh to the new server from my laptop
[5:27] <Quozl> It normally would not start sshd until the keys are made, and until then a connection reset is expected. I thought there was enough grunt to finish making the keys within a minute though.
[5:27] <Quozl> You have other means of access? keyboard, display, or serial port?
[5:28] <MrKeuner> no, it is normally located in my vacuum cleaner cabinet. I would have to power it down to move it somewhere else
[5:28] <devslash> does anyone here use lxde on their pi ?
[5:28] <MrKeuner> I'll wait for 10 minutes and then retry
[5:28] <Quozl> MrKeuner: or pull the SD card and repair the damage on something else.
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[5:29] <Quozl> MrKeuner: i have damage in the same way, i shall now connect a serial cable.
[5:29] <MrKeuner> ok, I am all ears as to how you fix it
[5:29] <MrKeuner> :)
[5:30] <MrKeuner> This is not serious business don't feel obliged to solve the problem. I would appreciate it though
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[5:30] <Quozl> Call it professional guilt. ;-)
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[5:31] <ShiftPlusOne> devslash, lxde is default on raspbian, so yes, many people would.
[5:31] <MrKeuner> There is no guilt at all
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[5:36] <Quozl> MrKeuner: so I'm wondering who did this and why, but sshd starts, but can't load the host key, so drops the connection, there's no automatic key generation. probably security feature. ;-}
[5:36] <Quozl> Jul 31 13:33:40 rpi sshd[2148]: error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ecdsa_key
[5:37] <MrKeuner> ah, all right. no need to wait then... :)
[5:37] <MrKeuner> Quozl, thanks a lot
[5:37] <Quozl> dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server
[5:38] <MrKeuner> chroot /dev/sdb1 would work when mounted on my laptop?
[5:38] <Quozl> yes, if your laptop is arm.
[5:38] <Quozl> (mine is!)
[5:38] <MrKeuner> ah no it is not
[5:38] <Quozl> The key generation takes 20 seconds on a Model B normal clocking.
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[5:38] <Quozl> But you can generate keys on some other host and copy them across.
[5:39] <Quozl> http://serverfault.com/questions/471327/how-to-change-a-ssh-host-key has in the second answer a generic method that you can use, with different file paths.
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[5:39] <Ange1o> hey guys
[5:39] <MrKeuner> I see, all right, I'll copy server one's key back on server two and the regenerate them instead of deleting
[5:39] <Ange1o> brand new to my raspberry pi
[5:39] <MrKeuner> Quozl, thanks alot for all help
[5:39] <Ange1o> whats the best web browser
[5:39] <Quozl> Ange1o: welcome.
[5:40] <Ange1o> theres no chrome im guessing
[5:40] <Quozl> Ange1o: sorry, i've no idea, i don't use one on a pi, i use pi as server. but i suggest firefox, which is in the package called iceweasel for trademark reasons.
[5:41] <Quozl> chromium is available.
[5:41] <Ange1o> how do i get this, i have a good amount of linux background
[5:41] <Ange1o> apt-get?
[5:41] <Quozl> apt-get update && apt-get install chromium firefox
[5:41] <Ange1o> okay great
[5:42] <Quozl> sorry, iceweasel, not firefox, my error.
[5:42] <Ange1o> i figured, but thanks!
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[5:43] <Quozl> MrKeuner: i've just realised that having identical host keys for the same actual pi would be very useful, despite an sd card swap.
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[5:44] <devslash> i need help i cant get lxpanel to work in lxde
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[5:44] <MrKeuner> Quozl, sorry did not get what you mean. do you suggest keeping keys the some on server foo and server bar?
[5:44] <Ange1o> so whats my first move here, ive got my screen resolution set, internet and bluetooth keyboard and mouse
[5:44] <Ange1o> any other begginer stuff?
[5:45] <Quozl> MrKeuner: yes, if those servers are on different cards that are swapped in and out of the same pi ... which is something i'm doing right now, and each time i do it my main desktop whinges about changed key for ip address.
[5:45] <Quozl> ... i want a nice big button which has a label "yeah, i know".
[5:46] <MrKeuner> hmm, yes it is likely that i may swap the sdcards at some point.
[5:47] <MrKeuner> and propably there is no such thing as key collision... :)
[5:47] <MrKeuner> ok, I'll keep them the same
[5:47] <MrKeuner> thanks!
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[5:48] <Ange1o> is there an android touchpad/keyboard over bluetooth ?
[5:48] <Ange1o> or wifi
[5:48] <Ange1o> for raspbian
[5:49] <Quozl> Ange1o: you mean an on-screen-keyboard for a touchscreen, or a bluetooth-linked keyboard?
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[5:50] <Ange1o> yeah linked, as in my android would be the bluetooth keyboard and trackpad
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[5:50] <Ange1o> or wifi on same network
[5:50] <Quozl> neat idea. no idea sorry. ;-)
[5:50] <Ange1o> i had a similar one on windows
[5:50] <Ange1o> hmm
[5:50] <Ange1o> okay
[5:50] <Quozl> no big technical reason why not.
[5:50] <Quozl> just a matter of whether someone has bothered.
[5:50] <Ange1o> i have to keep pulling out my keyboard/mouse and alternating at the momet lol
[5:51] <Quozl> you can ssh from an android phone through wifi to a raspian.
[5:51] <Quozl> assuming the pi has wireless device or wired ethernet to a wireless router.
[5:52] <Ange1o> yeah i have a bluetooth/wifi combo dongle
[5:52] <Quozl> you can probably also use an android vnc client.
[5:52] <Ange1o> ill look into that vnc, since thatll be useful otherwise
[5:52] <Ange1o> how can i make webpages autosize to screen in chrmoium
[5:53] <Ange1o> i have a little 4.3" screen
[5:53] <Quozl> no idea sorry.
[5:55] <MrKeuner> I changed /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts from foo to bar and the system knows that it is bar now when I login. but router thinks that it is still foo. I guess the issue with nic remains
[5:58] <Ange1o> .yum .rpm .tar.gz for adobe download
[5:58] <Ange1o> ?
[5:59] <Quozl> MrKeuner: raspbian? /etc/network/interfaces should merely mention eth0 dhcp, and that should use hostname for initial dhcp query, so your router may have something cached.
[5:59] <MrKeuner> rasbian yes
[6:00] <MrKeuner> iface eth0 inet dhcp
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[6:01] <MrKeuner> ok, I'll reboot the router and see. ll be back...
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[6:02] <EchoFox> does anyone else have to constantly rejoin this channel manually?
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[6:02] <ShiftPlusOne> EchoFox, use the server paassword.
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[6:02] <ShiftPlusOne> just a sec
[6:03] <ShiftPlusOne> set the server password to accountname:password
[6:03] <ShiftPlusOne> EchoFox, Then you will always be identified, no need for the nickserv nonsense.
[6:03] <EchoFox> i dont use nickserv anymore
[6:04] <EchoFox> i have it set to auto id
[6:04] <ShiftPlusOne> Then you're doing it wrong somehow. O_o How does it 'auto id' ?
[6:04] <EchoFox> oh, i have nickserv password set
[6:05] <EchoFox> so i type the same password in the server field?
[6:05] <ShiftPlusOne> nope
[6:05] <ShiftPlusOne> <ShiftPlusOne> set the server password to accountname:password
[6:07] <EchoFox> lets test this
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[6:08] <EchoFox> interesting
[6:08] <ShiftPlusOne> all good?
[6:08] <EchoFox> seems to be working thus far
[6:08] <ShiftPlusOne> great
[6:08] <CeilingKitten> EchoFox, I am using an xchat derivative, and i put my nickserv pass in the server pass box in the options and its worked for me ever since
[6:08] <CeilingKitten> i also got sound advice from ShiftPlusOne =)
[6:08] <ShiftPlusOne> yay
[6:09] <CeilingKitten> by sound i mean good, before anyone asks about fixing analog audio lol
[6:09] <EchoFox> sweet. thanks man, it got annoying, id be id'd but even with rpi as a favorite i'd have to manually join.
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[6:10] <ShiftPlusOne> EchoFox, it probably tried to do everything at the same time, so it would try to join the channel before nickserv did its thing.
[6:11] <EchoFox> i got my ds10b20 temp sensors. i have to wait to play with them, the gf wants me to spend time with her... i have them connected VIA telephone cable for a quick disconnect
[6:11] <EchoFox> breaks me heart to see this beautiful NES fitted with Rpi and dual phone jack outlet on top.
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[6:12] <Quozl> ds10b20? new one for me. i've been using ds1820's. ;-)
[6:12] <EchoFox> ds18b20
[6:12] <EchoFox> sorry
[6:13] <EchoFox> im getting yelled at..
[6:13] <Quozl> http://dev.laptop.org/~quozl/z/1V4Nml.txt is my latest ds18b20 driven toy, on arduino. averages lots of sensors and drives a colour led.
[6:13] <Ange1o> can you install .deb packages on raspbian
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[6:14] <MrKeuner> Swapped cards and compared MAC addresses using ifconfig eth0
[6:14] <ShiftPlusOne> Ange1o, as long as it's for the right architecture.
[6:14] <Quozl> Ange1o: yes and no. it's complicated.
[6:14] <MrKeuner> they are the same
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[6:14] <Ange1o> i downloaded the autoserved file from google for chome
[6:14] <ShiftPlusOne> Ange1o, people like to break their system by installing armv7 debs, for example.
[6:14] <Ange1o> it shose the version
[6:14] <Quozl> Ange1o: raspian .deb files are for the right architecture, some debian upstream .deb files are architecture independent so would work, but anything with i386 or amd64 is not going to work.
[6:15] <ShiftPlusOne> Ange1o, then it's not right, you can't use it.
[6:15] <Ange1o> hmm
[6:15] <Ange1o> okay
[6:15] <Quozl> you have a random set of bits downloaded and nothing to use them for. ;-}
[6:15] <Ange1o> chrmoium wont play flash
[6:15] <ShiftPlusOne> Ange1o, yeah, the pi is not a desktop.
[6:15] <Quozl> wait, there's a web site that needs the flash plugin?
[6:16] <Ange1o> youtube
[6:16] <CeilingKitten> flash is not available or capable on the Pi, there is Gnash player which will attempt to play it on your pi horribly slow and stuttering
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[6:16] <Quozl> that's not a web site. ;-)
[6:16] <CeilingKitten> sudo apt-get youtube-dl
[6:16] <ShiftPlusOne> Ange1o, look into xbmc, youtube-dl, whitey, html5 and so on..
[6:16] <ShiftPlusOne> Though I don't know how well html5 videos work on the pi.
[6:17] <Ange1o> i get an invalifd operation on the apt-get
[6:17] <ShiftPlusOne> Ange1o, apt-get install....
[6:17] <Ange1o> yup
[6:17] <Ange1o> haha thanks
[6:18] <Ange1o> how do i set the clock
[6:19] <ShiftPlusOne> It should do it automagically through ntp when you boot
[6:19] <Ange1o> timezone wise
[6:19] <ShiftPlusOne> which distro?
[6:19] <Ange1o> raspbian is 4 hours ahead
[6:19] <ShiftPlusOne> sudo raspi-config
[6:21] <MrKeuner> Quozl, turning on both rpis at the same time did some change
[6:21] <Quozl> MrKeuner: great.
[6:22] <Quozl> MrKeuner: i was gunna say before you left that i would have ssh'd into my router and restarted dnsmasq, but i guess not everybody has power over their router. ;-}
[6:22] <MrKeuner> Quozl, actually I do. openwrt here :)
[6:23] <MrKeuner> but just restarted the whole thing anyways
[6:23] <MrKeuner> did not seem to help until i tuned both on
[6:23] <Quozl> i guess dnsmasq has saved state of some sort.
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[6:24] <MrKeuner> anyways, thanks again. I have two rpis running. yay!
[6:24] <Quozl> one can never have too much pi.
[6:29] <Ange1o> for the record Qremotecontrol on the pi store is a touck/keyboard smartphone remote
[6:30] <Ange1o> in case anybody else is interested
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[6:33] <MrKeuner> have a good one
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[7:08] <devslash> are there any security issues when using X over VNC ?
[7:10] <Quozl> devslash: yes.
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[7:17] <devslash> Quozl, such as ?
[7:17] <Quozl> devslash: the network that carries the traffic between the client and the server can be observed in order to capture the keystrokes.
[7:18] <devslash> is there a way to secure it ?
[7:18] <devslash> i believe you can do vnc over ssh right ?
[7:18] <Quozl> devslash: yes, can encapsulate inside ipsec, ssh, openvpn, or other methods, but if security is really important, you would also try to avoid having to do even that.
[7:20] <devslash> yea
[7:20] <devslash> well at the moment, I havent opened that port on my router so if im not mistaken, there isnt too much of a security hole since only my home network is exposed to the vnc
[7:21] <Quozl> yes, but once something on your home network is compromised, it's one less step to compromise of the next node.
[7:21] <Quozl> security is often done in depth; multiple layers.
[7:21] <Quozl> if the rpi is controlling your oxygen supply, take more care. ;-)
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[7:23] <devslash> yea. ill probably shut it off
[7:24] <Quozl> on the other hand, we all take some risks.
[7:24] <devslash> do you use remind rdp?
[7:24] <devslash> oops
[7:24] <devslash> remina remote desktop client
[7:25] <Quozl> interesting, had not heard of remmina.
[7:25] <devslash> it looks good
[7:25] <devslash> im trying to figure out how toconnect using public key auth
[7:26] <Quozl> does ssh already work for you without password prompt?
[7:26] <devslash> yes
[7:26] <Quozl> then you have reached the limit of my knowledge. ;-}
[7:26] <devslash> not sure if i need to but i specify the path to the public key
[7:27] <devslash> whenever i run ssh
[7:27] <Quozl> ssh normally looks at .ssh/id_*.pub for it.
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[7:37] <Ange1o> hey, so i have a raspbian .deb package how do i install it
[7:38] <Ange1o> clicking opends xarchive
[7:38] <[Saint]> sudo dpkg -i debfilename.deb
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[7:38] <Ange1o> awesome thanks
[7:39] <Quozl> and if you get warnings about dependencies, it gets complicated.
[7:42] <Ange1o> looks to have worked
[7:42] <Ange1o> how do i add something to startup applications
[7:42] <Ange1o> in window manager
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[8:14] <Ange1o> why does my background partially go behind the taskbar
[8:14] <Ange1o> is there a way to stop it at the taskbar ?
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[8:20] <nerdboy> not unless you manually size the picture just right
[8:22] <nerdboy> use a transparent taskbar ala tint2
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[9:16] <mac-> hey
[9:16] <mac-> what is TDP of RPi BCM2835
[9:16] <mac-> ?
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[9:34] <hendry> Just got a new Raspberry PI camera 1.3 inserted. How do i test it's there and grab a frame from it?
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[9:47] <elkng> does anyone tryed games on Raspberry Pi ? how fast is it ? can you ran first crysis ?
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[10:42] <ShorTie> piThreadCreate (Blink (int led));
[10:42] <ShorTie> well that didn't work, lol.
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[10:49] <ShorTie> these are the most fun fly swatter there is
[10:49] <ShorTie> http://www.harborfreight.com/electronic-fly-swatter-40122.html
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[11:17] <ShorTie> does PI_THREAD only work in sys mode or some thing ??
[11:18] <gordonDrogon> hi
[11:18] <ShorTie> mornin
[11:18] <gordonDrogon> PI_THREAD works at any time. you don't need to initialise wiringPi for it.
[11:19] <gordonDrogon> it's simple an easy to use wrapper to define a function that you can later start with piThreadCreate ()
[11:19] <ShorTie> trying to get my light to blink and not having much luck .. :/~
[11:20] <gordonDrogon> you want to do it in the thread?
[11:20] <ShorTie> ya
[11:20] <ShorTie> error: unknown type name âPI_THREADâ
[11:20] <gordonDrogon> you need to #include <wiringPi.h>
[11:21] <ShorTie> already had that
[11:21] <gordonDrogon> let me knock up an example...
[11:21] <ShorTie> what i'm trying to do is
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[11:22] <ShorTie> i got that adc runnin, each channel has it's own led that lets me know it runnin
[11:23] <ShorTie> but if it doesn't run in x amount of time, i would like it to blink the led
[11:23] <ShorTie> without effecting the rest of the program
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[11:24] <ShorTie> so i really need to pass the channel number too i believe to blink
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[11:25] <gordonDrogon> http://unicorn.drogon.net/blinkThread.c
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[11:28] <gordonDrogon> you could start a thread for each channel.
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[11:29] <gordonDrogon> there is no easy way to pass a parameter into the thread - if you need to do that, then you need to abandon my wrappers and use pthreads directly (for now)
[11:31] <ShorTie> had () at the end instead on around Blink .. :/~
[11:32] <ShorTie> hmmm, thread for each channel
[11:34] <ShorTie> but Blink would still need to be it's own thread so it would not effect the scanning of the adc, correct ??
[11:34] <gordonDrogon> it deends on how you code it. if accessing the same hardware from multiple threads then you need some sort of semaphore or mutex.
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[11:38] <Firehopper> I think ShorTie is going to use a seperate led for each adc thread.
[11:38] <Firehopper> I'm still not quite awake yet, so If I'm saying something dumb.. tell me :>
[11:39] * Firehopper yays my second foot of rgb led strip should arrive today.
[11:40] <ShorTie> basically all i have is an adc and a 10 segment led bar
[11:41] <ShorTie> when the adc value is great enough i start a timer and turn the corresponding led on
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[11:42] <Firehopper> what are ya measuring?
[11:42] <ShorTie> measuring current
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[11:42] <ShorTie> but not really the amount, just that the motor is runnin
[11:43] * Firehopper hrmms and ponders installing arduino ide on the pi.
[11:43] <Firehopper> interesting :)
[11:43] <Firehopper> how are you getting the current sense?
[11:43] <ShorTie> trying to make sure my babies are keep in feed
[11:44] <Firehopper> and what kind of motor is it?
[11:44] <ShorTie> using a acs758 hall effect sensor
[11:44] <Firehopper> theres a few ways, another method is to use a rpm sensor of some kind.
[11:44] <ShorTie> 6 or 8 1/3hp motors
[11:44] <Firehopper> giggle, thats what I was gonnna suggest :)
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[11:46] <ShorTie> i got 70,000 little bellies to keep full, lol.
[11:46] <Firehopper> wow :)
[11:46] <Firehopper> thats a lot of hungry tummys
[11:47] <ShorTie> yuppers
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[12:07] <quackgyver> which distro and version of said distro is most similar to raspbian?
[12:09] <ShiftPlusOne> A bit of an odd question. I'd say soft-float debian or the millions of raspbian derivatives.
[12:09] <ShiftPlusOne> basically any debian based distro
[12:10] <[Saint]> most similar to raspbian...but, isn't raspbian?
[12:10] <ShiftPlusOne> You'd be crazy not to use raspbian if you want something like raspbian >_<
[12:10] <quackgyver> Why is it a strange question?
[12:10] <[Saint]> see above
[12:11] <ShiftPlusOne> Idn.... What's most like a dog but isn't a dog?
[12:11] <[Saint]> A potato!
[12:11] <ShiftPlusOne> correct - 10 points
[12:11] <quackgyver> AFAIK Raspbian is a Debian derivative, and I'm about to deploy an OS on a server. Since I don't have the option to deploy Raspbian, I'd like to get as close as possible.
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[12:12] <ShiftPlusOne> quackgyver, Why isn't raspbian an option? Not on a pi?
[12:12] <quackgyver> Because it's a VPS. :-)
[12:12] <ShiftPlusOne> then plain ol debian is what you're after
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[12:13] <quackgyver> Aight. Any specific version?
[12:13] <quackgyver> I have several to choose from.
[12:13] <[Saint]> wheezy
[12:13] <quackgyver> Debian 7 then? Aight.
[12:13] <quackgyver> Thanks for the info.
[12:13] <[Saint]> if you want it to be binary compatible, things get messy.
[12:13] <ShiftPlusOne> it doesn't really matter as long as you get the architecture right. Wheezy is the version raspbian is based on though.
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[12:14] <Cracker2> Hi. Anyone has Chromium on their Raspberry's right now?
[12:14] <quackgyver> I'm just going to be doing some Py scripting, and since I'm no expert on the subject I prefer to avoid potential problems by playing it safe.
[12:14] <quackgyver> In this case, this means using a distro that is as close to raspbian as possible.
[12:14] * MichaelC|Sleep is now known as MichaelC
[12:14] <quackgyver> So that's my rationalization. Thanks for the help.
[12:14] <ShiftPlusOne> Debian wheezy 100%
[12:15] <quackgyver> Yep. :)
[12:15] <[Saint]> Cracker2: yes, why?
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[12:17] <[Saint]> Cracker2: ...?
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[12:18] <Cracker2> http://portopirts.lv/sound.html
[12:18] <Cracker2> Look at web console
[12:18] <Cracker2> Object #<HTMLElement> has no method 'play'
[12:18] <Cracker2> Raspberry's chromium doesn't support <audio> ?
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[12:19] <[Saint]> whatever that's supposed to be, its non-functional in chrome-dev as well.
[12:20] <[Saint]> so this isn't raspberrypi-specific
[12:20] <Cracker2> click on Play?
[12:20] <[Saint]> as I said, non-functional.
[12:20] <[Saint]> its literally just the text "Play", and nothing more.
[12:21] <Cracker2> click Play and listen. check source
[12:22] <[Saint]> works in FF on my desktop, not in Chrome.
[12:23] <ShiftPlusOne> works in chrome for me
[12:23] <ShiftPlusOne> not on a pi
[12:23] <[Saint]> Hmmm.
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[12:23] <ShiftPlusOne> Version 28.0.1500.72 m
[12:23] <[Saint]> aha.
[12:23] <[Saint]> Version 30.0.1581.2 dev here
[12:24] <Cracker2> it plays in Iceweasel, but very choppy and it's stuttering
[12:25] <[Saint]> Chromium is quite resource intensive.
[12:27] <[Saint]> errr...s/Chromium/Iceweasel/
[12:27] <[Saint]> (well, on the pi - they both are - really)
[12:27] <ShiftPlusOne> Well, chromium works quite well on the pi (although, or maybe because it is resource intensive)
[12:29] <Cracker2> http://html5test.com/ says Chromium on raspberry PI doesn't support <audio> tag
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[12:31] <[Saint]> must be some other snafu I'm having.
[12:31] <[Saint]> apparently this just scored a 499/500
[12:31] <Cracker2> on raspberry ?
[12:32] <[Saint]> desktop. Chrome dev
[12:32] <ShiftPlusOne> 463 on my desktop
[12:32] <Cracker2> what about raspberry chromium?
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[12:32] <ShiftPlusOne> 320 on internet explorer >_<
[12:33] <[Saint]> aha - 500..woo!
[12:33] <[Saint]> had to poke about in /flags a bit
[12:33] <[Saint]> opus wasn't turned on.
[12:33] <ShiftPlusOne> nice
[12:34] <[Saint]> its broken, though.
[12:34] <[Saint]> awww.
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[12:35] <[Saint]> I score 15/15 for microdata, but that's not possible.
[12:35] <Cracker2> [Saint]: does it say your chromium on raspberry supports Audio element?
[12:35] <[Saint]> dunno - I'm nowhere near one.
[12:36] * [Saint] is suddenly a lot less happy about the perfect score knowing it isn't possible.
[12:37] <ShiftPlusOne> Cracker2, if it's really important I can fire mine up. Let me know.
[12:37] <[Saint]> <audio> isn;t actually part of HTML5 spec, is it?
[12:38] <[Saint]> so - can't really blame anyone for not supporting it.
[12:38] <[Saint]> heh, yep - html5test even states this:
[12:38] <[Saint]> "The following tests go beyond the requirements of the HTML5 specification and are not counted towards the total score. "
[12:39] <Cracker2> http://www.w3.org/wiki/HTML/Elements/audio
[12:40] <[Saint]> hum, ok. apparently both I, and html5test, are behind the times. :)
[12:40] <bacobart> the statement about not being required by html5 spec is regarding the codecs
[12:40] <bacobart> html5 states you must support video and audio elements, but doesnt require any codecs
[12:41] <bacobart> so there's disagreement over the codecs between browser vendors
[12:41] <bacobart> disagreement over which should be default that is
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[12:44] <ShiftPlusOne> Cracker2, trying on Arch now.
[12:44] <tig|> and if DRM should be allowed
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[12:44] <ShiftPlusOne> Cracker2, works on arch
[12:45] <Cracker2> ShiftPlusOne: chromium?
[12:45] <PKodon> DRM should be allowed .... to die!
[12:45] <ShiftPlusOne> Cracker2, yup
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[12:46] <ShiftPlusOne> Cracker2, 28.0.1500.71 (209842)
[12:46] <Cracker2> http://html5test.com/ shows audio element support?
[12:48] <ShiftPlusOne> yup
[12:49] <ShiftPlusOne> 20+5 on the audio section. Everything but Ogg Opus support
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[12:53] <riot> ohai. can i run an installed raspbian via sd + card reader and qemu on my (intel) workstation? i found some instructions but they're either not quite describing the same situation or suffered other problems :/
[12:54] <ShiftPlusOne> riot, which OS running on the workstation?
[12:54] <riot> debian unstable
[12:55] <ShiftPlusOne> did you try just using -hda /dev/sdx ?
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[12:56] <ShiftPlusOne> And otherwise doing everything else as on http://xecdesign.com/qemu-emulating-raspberry-pi-the-easy-way/ ?
[12:56] <riot> hmmm, i had to supply a kernel, so i mounted the first partition and took the original kernel, just got a black screen (was i too impatient? waited 2 minutes, its a rather speedy quadcore..)
[12:56] <ShiftPlusOne> You can't use the original kernel
[12:57] <riot> i'm updating qemu (my install was.. rather old)
[12:57] <riot> which one do i use then?
[12:57] <ShiftPlusOne> You can only use the original kernel if you are using torlus' qemu patches.
[12:57] <ShiftPlusOne> This one http://xecdesign.com/downloads/linux-qemu/kernel-qemu
[12:58] <riot> oh. I downloaded that one and got an exploding qemu ;) i suppose 1.2 was just TOO old *g*
[12:58] <riot> hmhm. Still with 1.5, another hardware-error: integratorcm_read: Unimplemented offset 0x1f1018
[12:58] <ShiftPlusOne> Don't know about qemu versioning. At the time I wrote that article, only the latest dev (git) version worked.
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[12:59] <riot> hmmhm, okay, thanks.
[12:59] <ShiftPlusOne> What's the full qemu command you're using?
[12:59] <riot> qemu-system-arm -hda /dev/sdc -m 256 -cpu arm1176 -kernel kernel-qemu
[12:59] <ShiftPlusOne> try this
[13:00] <ShiftPlusOne> qemu-system-arm -kernel kernel-qemu -cpu arm1176 -m 256 -M versatilepb -no-reboot -serial stdio -append "root=/dev/sda2 panic=1" -hda /dev/sdc
[13:00] <ShiftPlusOne> and you might need to run as root to access /dev/sdc anyway
[13:00] <riot> weee \o/
[13:00] <riot> thanks a lot :)
[13:00] <ShiftPlusOne> works?
[13:00] <ShiftPlusOne> well... stupid question >_<
[13:00] <ShiftPlusOne> np
[13:01] <riot> hmhm, no, no.. it looked like it did
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[13:01] <riot> then rebooted x(
[13:01] <ShiftPlusOne> >_<
[13:01] <riot> after a second.. not sooo nice :>
[13:01] <ShiftPlusOne> Have you edited ld.so.preload on the sd card?
[13:02] <riot> no. it says it can't find a partition to mount.. hmm
[13:02] <ShiftPlusOne> well, you will need to edit ld.so.preload
[13:02] <ShiftPlusOne> but if it's not finding the partition, then you've got some other problem going on
[13:03] <riot> yah, that was the swap partition ;D
[13:03] <riot> taking the right one actually works well =)
[13:03] <riot> hmm, no hostname, wtf..
[13:05] <double-you> can I "startx" and then activate vncserver over ssh?
[13:06] <ozzzy> activate vncserver :1 before you start the client
[13:06] <ozzzy> then start the client and attach to display 1
[13:07] <ShiftPlusOne> I thought vncserver was only virtual and you need x11vnc
[13:07] <ozzzy> that's all I do
[13:08] <ozzzy> but... I don't use it... I just run the app I need over ssh
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[13:09] <double-you> you type "startx", wait 1 minute and then vncserver :1 ?`
[13:09] <ozzzy> no... I just run vncserver :1
[13:10] * ShiftPlusOne still wanders what starx and vncserver have to do with each other.
[13:10] <double-you> I have no idea ;)
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[13:11] <ShiftPlusOne> double-you, what do you want to accomplish exactly?
[13:11] <double-you> I have no display attached and want to use the python ide over vnc
[13:11] <ozzzy> so just run it from ssh
[13:11] <ShiftPlusOne> you don't need startx
[13:12] <ShiftPlusOne> double-you, read this, ignore that it's for arch. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Vncserver
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[13:18] <double-you> thank you
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[13:18] <double-you> and how to access the desktop which is used by startx?
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[13:19] <ShiftPlusOne> look at the x11vnc article on the same wiki
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[13:36] <willybilly0101> how can I make something similar with google docs suitable for a RPI (that already has Transmission, TOR relay and one bouncer running on it?)
[13:36] <willybilly0101> I mean, what software do you recommend
[13:36] <willybilly0101> I just need tables & text docs
[13:36] * ShiftPlusOne can't parse the question
[13:37] <willybilly0101> simple collaborative docs server light software
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[13:37] <bacobart> http://etherpad.org/ maybe?
[13:38] <ShiftPlusOne> I'd just use a wiki, but etherpad looks good.
[13:38] <willybilly0101> I thought about etherpad
[13:38] <willybilly0101> but I would like something with excel-like features
[13:38] <willybilly0101> tables, with basic functions (sum,count, add)
[13:39] <bacobart> http://www.fengoffice.com/ ?
[13:39] <bacobart> (the community edition)
[13:40] <willybilly0101> thanks let me check
[13:40] <double-you> ShiftPlusOne: I'm trying
[13:41] <bacobart> you might need something like http://www.gelsheet.org/ too
[13:41] <bacobart> anyway
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[13:41] <bacobart> i don't think there's something exactly like google docs in open source form
[13:41] <bacobart> there's stuff that comes close though
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[14:13] <steve_rox> any fun rpi projects going on?
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[14:16] <steve_rox> chinglish batterys performed as expected
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[14:29] <Kane> o/
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[14:55] <simonwjackson> is there a device that can measure proximity of a nearby moving object?
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[14:56] <Firehopper> simonwjackson, I can think of two
[14:56] <pksato> simonwjackson: camera?
[14:56] <pksato> pir?
[14:56] <Firehopper> errr make it 4
[14:56] <Firehopper> camera
[14:56] <Firehopper> pir
[14:56] <Firehopper> ir
[14:56] <Firehopper> and ultrasonic
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[14:58] <Cracker2> I just did a fresh arch linux setup, installed xorg and chromium. running xinit, then starting chromium, but I chrome is not full screen, leaves about 50px at right and bottom where I can see xorg terminal?
[14:58] <pksato> ah, and new, wifi.
[14:58] <simonwjackson> oh wow, didnt think about the camera :) thanks all!
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[14:59] <simonwjackson> pksato: wifi N can detect motion?
[15:00] <pksato> not only wifi N, and radio frequency source. But, its is new lab tecnology.
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[15:00] <pksato> any radio
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[15:12] <Cracker2> ShiftPlusOne: you're running Chromium on Arch Linux, right?
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[15:15] <applegekko> perhaps try looking at xorg logs
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[15:23] <quackgyver> Are there any x86/64-based rPi competitors?
[15:23] <IT_Sean> Not at the raspi's price point. :p
[15:23] <quackgyver> well, what's the closest you can get?
[15:23] <IT_Sean> I actually don't know of any that would be x86/64
[15:24] <tig|> quackgyver: probably the sucessors to the WRAP boards
[15:25] <pksato> ah x86 for $35? only cpu cost more.
[15:25] <quackgyver> Case: I have a lot of products I want to build which I eventually intend to base on rPi, but I'm a horrible programmer/techie and don't have the time to do what it'd take to build them on rPi. My idea is to buy the cheapest possible rPi-like x86/64-based single board computer just so i can get my prototypes up and running, and then proceed to replace
[15:25] <quackgyver> whichever project i decide to run with with the rPi instead.
[15:25] <tig|> quackgyver: something like : http://www.pcengines.ch/alix3d2.htm but I am comparing sizes not cost
[15:25] <quackgyver> Yeah cost is no issue atm
[15:26] <quackgyver> thanks for the suggestions
[15:26] <pksato> search for via pico itx boards
[15:27] <quackgyver> Ah, cool. :) Thanks
[15:28] <pksato> but, via is a really slow cpus.
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[15:29] <tig|> pksato: at that form factor you are not going to get Xeons :)
[15:29] <pksato> http://axiomtek.com/products/ViewProduct.asp?view=680
[15:29] <IT_Sean> quackgyver: what you are asking for is, basically, a PC. :p
[15:29] <mgottschlag> why x86 anyways? at that form factor you are getting fast arm quadcore CPUs :)
[15:30] <quackgyver> IT_Sean: Yeah I know.
[15:30] <quackgyver> but thats only for prototyping
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[15:30] <IT_Sean> so, you plan to recompile all your code for a raspi? Why the heck wouldn'
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[15:30] <IT_Sean> so, you plan to recompile all your code for a raspi? Why the heck wouldn't you just START on the raspi?
[15:31] <quackgyver> IT_Sean: I'll be utilizing 3rd party solutions to things that can be done more easily with windows
[15:31] <quackgyver> and tie the functionalities together with a py script for easy porting
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[15:33] <quackgyver> So on Windows I'll force the user into a CMD running the py script and subsequently have the script utilize integral windows functions, whereas with the pi id port the script over and replace the windows function calls with 3rd party lib calls
[15:33] <quackgyver> the pi will require a bit more software engineering to work out eventual quirks too, im sure
[15:33] <IT_Sean> so again... why not just start on the Pi, as you are going to have to go down that road anyway..
[15:33] <quackgyver> but to me this seems reasonable. feel free to tell me otherwise though
[15:34] * IT_Sean tells you otherwise
[15:34] <quackgyver> IT_Sean: Because it's going to be more time-consuming, and I'll want to try out a bunch of different products before deciding which to invest my time in
[15:34] <quackgyver> so effectively i want to get a bunch of windows hack jobs up and running asap
[15:35] * IT_Sean gives up
[15:35] <quackgyver> :/
[15:35] <quackgyver> i thought i was being straight forward here.
[15:35] <mgottschlag> oh, the joy of quick hacks when you are actually working somewhere where you need things done asap :)
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[15:36] <quackgyver> mgottschlag: It'd be a personal project, so no worries. ;)
[15:36] <mgottschlag> I'd try a regular PC for prototyping (just anything) though if your end product is likely to be ARM based
[15:36] <mgottschlag> well, if it is a personal project, then I am totally against such a quick and dirty solution :p
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[15:37] <quackgyver> mgottschlag: It's more of a feeling-out-phase before doing the actual development. I want to see how the product acts and feels when hooked up to all the relevant components and cased in the same portable format as the end goal would be :)
[15:38] <quackgyver> sometimes you dont realize a product sucks until youre done
[15:38] <quackgyver> gonna try to avoid that ;)
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[15:38] <IT_Sean> quackgyver: it's $35. Buy a raspi.
[15:38] * IT_Sean rolls his eyes
[15:38] <quackgyver> i have 2 already :)
[15:38] <quackgyver> no wait, 3
[15:39] <IT_Sean> well... what are you waiting for then! Get coding!
[15:39] <quackgyver> Do X. / Cant because Y. / Sigh. Do X. <-- pls :(
[15:40] <quackgyver> Anyway, problem solved so thanks for all input and I will consider everything. :)
[15:40] <mgottschlag> quackgyver: why is a normal PC not usable for prototyping anyways?
[15:40] <mgottschlag> okay ^^
[15:40] <quackgyver> mgottschlag: I need something portable. :)
[15:41] <[Saint]> glue on some handles
[15:41] <mgottschlag> does the prototype already need that? what are you building anyways? :)
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[15:42] <IT_Sean> quackgyver: laptop
[15:42] <quackgyver> I have 3 project ideas which rely on hacked and/or redesigned hardware/peripherals, so I need a small and portable single board computer to handle I/O
[15:42] <quackgyver> but since im a dumb person itd take me too long to tie everything together, so i want to base the prototypes on windows before determining which product to roll with
[15:42] <quackgyver> and only then will i start learning relevant coding for reals
[15:42] <quackgyver> -so
[15:42] <IT_Sean> you are kinda doing it in the wrong order, but, hey... whatever floats your goats.
[15:43] <IT_Sean> *boats
[15:43] <quackgyver> It's only wrong if technology isn't a huge problem for you whilst at the same time having a proficiency in design.
[15:43] <quackgyver> So I'm sorta on the flipside. :)
[15:44] <quackgyver> I get where you're coming from though, but I tend to differentiate between what's most effective for me and what's proper according to standards.
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[15:52] <Davespice> folks, has anyone here used motion mmal yet?
[15:52] <Davespice> with a RPi camera board
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[16:08] <Aut0Exec> hi
[16:08] <Aut0Exec> anyone ever made a temperature sensor ?
[16:08] <Aut0Exec> well not made
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[16:08] <Aut0Exec> but added to ras board
[16:09] <Aut0Exec> to monitor
[16:09] <Aut0Exec> ?
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[16:14] <Vooloo> is it possible to create a default install with configs and everything else to be installed on like 100 pi's? Like a default custmo Raspian image pre-configured with all I need I could just copy over?
[16:15] <IT_Sean> Well, you could create one image, and then clone it to as many SD cards as you wanted...
[16:15] <tig|> Vooloo: just configure one and then duplicate the card
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[16:25] <Davespice> Aut0Exec: do you just want to know the cpu temp of the pi?
[16:25] <Davespice> or are you measuring something else?
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[16:30] <c0nnaught> If my RasPI has a little bit of fire coming out of it, is that a bad thing or just a misconfiguration?
[16:30] <IT_Sean> that's A Very Bad Thing
[16:30] <IT_Sean> c0nnaught: are you joking?
[16:31] <tig|> probably a bad thing, they are strictly internal combustion powered :P
[16:31] <c0nnaught> I think it got a bit too wet
[16:31] <IT_Sean> ...
[16:31] <IT_Sean> what, exactly, happened?
[16:31] <SpeedEvil> Wetness can cause fire.
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[16:32] <SpeedEvil> You get internal electroplating of the tracks - leading to conductive paths between tracks and shorts.
[16:32] <SpeedEvil> This can be energetic enough ttat you get fires.
[16:32] <c0nnaught> I see
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[16:32] <IT_Sean> c0nnaught: Pics or it didn't happen!
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[16:33] <c0nnaught> So I guess that the case I made wasn't quite as waterproof as I hoped for then :(
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[16:33] <c0nnaught> When it stops raining I will get pics
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[16:39] <c0nnaught> I need to go shopping I guess
[16:39] <c0nnaught> *sigh*
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[16:39] <IT_Sean> did that really just happen?
[16:40] <tig|> possibly, I am waiting for the pics :)
[16:40] <SpeedEvil> Dampness can in fact cause fires. Above isn't bullshit.
[16:40] <tig|> but I think it was a humourous way of informing everyone he had overcooked his pi :)
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[16:48] <PipeDale> LOL!
[16:48] <PipeDale> who has a Pi, in the rain?
[16:48] <IT_Sean> an idiot?
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[16:48] * Firehopper has a pi, but no rain here
[16:49] * IT_Sean has a pi, but keeps it indoors, like a normal person
[16:49] <tig|> he did say he made a case for it that turned out not to be as waterproof as he hoped..
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[16:49] <IT_Sean> >_<
[16:49] <PipeDale> IT_Sean: that's amusing!
[16:49] <IT_Sean> Oooh! I should be getting some raspi related goodies today!
[16:49] <PipeDale> IT_Sean: still not arrived?
[16:49] <IT_Sean> nah.
[16:49] * Firehopper ish expecting more rgb led strip.
[16:50] <IT_Sean> Should come today, according to tracking
[16:50] <Firehopper> ordering 1 foot at a time. :)
[16:50] <Firehopper> cause thats how I can afford it
[16:51] * IT_Sean is getting the adafruit RGB LCD kit, and a wifi dongle
[16:51] <tig|> ooo I wonder when the pi lites will be shipping
[16:51] <IT_Sean> pi lites?
[16:51] <tig|> sometime this week?
[16:52] <IT_Sean> what is a pi lite?
[16:52] <tig|> IT_Sean: led matrix
[16:52] <IT_Sean> Oh
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[16:52] <tig|> IT_Sean: you can get the red ones off the shelf but they did a kickstarter for bright white led version
[16:53] <IT_Sean> ooh
[16:53] <tig|> 126 leds :)
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[16:54] <tig|> but they said shipping within three weeks of getting the funds, ah mind you how long does kickstarter take to release funding?
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[16:58] <Aut0Exec> Davespice: temp of the room
[16:59] <Davespice> oh right
[16:59] <Aut0Exec> like a thermometer but then ras reads it and
[16:59] <Aut0Exec> sends email
[16:59] <Aut0Exec> if it drops too low or too high
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[16:59] <Davespice> ah okay, well... there is a built in temp sensor, and this is usually about 8 to 10 degrees above ambient temp of the room the Pi is in
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[17:00] <Davespice> use this command; /opt/vc/bin/vcgencmd measure_temp
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[17:01] <Davespice> otherwise there is a good guide on the Cambridge Uni website here; http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/projects/raspberrypi/tutorials/temperature/
[17:01] <tig|> oh the vcgencmd needs to be run as root or put sudo in front of it
[17:02] <Cracker2> I'm starting chromium on archlinux with xorg startx, but chromium is about 90% full screen only?
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[17:06] <Davespice> Cracker2: have you put disable_overscan=1 into config.txt ?
[17:06] <Davespice> that might fix it
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[17:07] <Cracker2> the display on the TV is fine. it's just chrome window is not full screen, leaving around 50px on bottom and right. I can move my mouse there
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[17:08] <Davespice> ah right
[17:08] <Davespice> so this is under the x desktop I presume?
[17:08] <Davespice> is this even when you maximise the window?
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[17:11] <Davespice> http://tim.igoe.me.uk/2013/05/02/raspberry-pi-full-screen-web-browser/
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[17:12] <Davespice> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cupdTI8SAc
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[17:12] <Davespice> see the "more info" link on that video also
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[17:12] <Aut0Exec> Davespice: thanks bro
[17:13] <Aut0Exec> Davespice: didnt realize there was built in temp sensor
[17:13] <Davespice> looks like --kiosk is the order of the day
[17:13] <Davespice> no worries Aut0Exec :)
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[17:24] <Vostok> has anyone tried mosh on raspi?
[17:24] <hifi> I have
[17:24] <Vostok> installs easily?
[17:24] <hifi> why it wouldn't, it's in raspbian packages?
[17:24] <Vostok> that's the info i was looking for, thanks!
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[17:25] <hifi> the only issue is that it's quite heavy on the cpu compared to plain ssh, if your system is under heavy load mosh could possibly cause more issues than solve
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[17:25] <Vostok> right
[17:26] <hifi> but if you're system is mostly idle it's completely fine
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[18:16] <ramkam> hi there. on pidora / raspberry pi, the vncserver is showing me a user desktop, but it's a different on than the user desktop shown on the hdmi output. Done it using this : http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=50897&p=393825
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[18:18] <macdonz> ramkam: are you logging in as the same user in each scenario?
[18:18] <ramkam> macdonz: yups
[18:18] <ramkam> one trick though, on the pi, i've set autologin to the user
[18:19] <ramkam> so that i don't have to plug a keyboard and mouse
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[18:21] <macdonz> ramkam: i imagine you just have multiple sessions started for your user
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[18:22] <macdonz> ramkam: how do you start your autologin session?
[18:22] <macdonz> ramkam: vs your cnx
[18:22] <macdonz> *vnc
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[18:24] <ramkam> macdonz: the pidora autologins with /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf autologin-user=<ursername>
[18:25] <ramkam> the vncserver is the started via a ssh session
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[18:25] <macdonz> ramkam: i'll be back, work urgh
[18:25] <Dante93> Hi
[18:25] <ramkam> macdonz: cheers
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[18:26] <alesan> hi
[18:26] <alesan> so I have 2013-07-26-wheezy-raspbian.img and a SD card, I cannot find info on the download page how to correctly install it
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[18:27] <ramkam> macdonz: meanwhile, will try to vnc with the autologin-user disabled
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[18:27] <alesan> do I dd to the SD device or to a partition?
[18:28] <Dante93> alesan: you should try using the NOOBSS_v1_2 on the official raspberry pi website, that should help ^^
[18:29] <ShorTie> device
[18:29] <Dante93> guys i want to setup a proxy on my raspberry pi and possibly being able (on another pc) to open steam with that proxy
[18:29] <alesan> ShorTie, OK so it won't need any partition on the SD
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[18:29] <ramkam> the advantage of raspbian v/s pidora ? (or the other way round...no offense) :)
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[18:31] <alesan> http://elinux.org/RPi_Easy_SD_Card_Setup#Using_the_Linux_command_line <- ShorTie I have found it
[18:32] <alesan> I do not understand why this info is buried so much, it should be in the http://www.raspberrypi.org/downloads page
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[18:32] <ramkam> macdonz: same problem with autologin disabled
[18:32] <Vooloo> does anyone know where you can buy raspberry pi in bulk, importing? I don't want to pay retail for 100 units.
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[18:33] <tig|> Vooloo: RS or Farnell are the two key resellers, everyone else is buying from them, on the business side I believe they do bulk ordering
[18:33] <IT_Sean> You'd have to talk to one of the distributers (Newark, etc...) to see if they would deal with you on bulk pricing.
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[18:35] <Vooloo> tig|: RS? Link?
[18:35] <Vooloo> European reseller?
[18:35] <IT_Sean> www.google.com
[18:35] <IT_Sean> :p
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[18:35] <IT_Sean> There is actually a link to RS on the raspi home page, i believe, Vooloo
[18:35] <alesan> http://www.rs-components.com/index.html
[18:36] <alesan> which country are you interested in Vooloo ????
[18:36] <Vooloo> Sweden
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[18:37] <alesan> I am pretty sure rs and farnell will give you a special rate for 100 units
[18:37] <Vooloo> Will check, thank you
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[18:39] <alesan> Vooloo, wel in fact... maybe not
[18:39] <alesan> strange
[18:40] <Vooloo> If their base price is lower than retail it is still a win
[18:40] <alesan> hey so if I start raspbian "headless" how do I find out the IP address of the device so I can ssh into it?
[18:42] <Vooloo> Make a bash script that sends the IP to your email or a website or something?
[18:42] <hifi> or you check your routers dhcp log
[18:42] <hifi> or you configure static ip for it
[18:43] <Vooloo> I intend to make a control panel where the 100 pis send their info upon boot using simple HTTP post :P
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[18:43] <ramkam> alesan: sometimes this works ping 192.168.0.255; arp -a
[18:43] <hifi> or nmap -sP 192.168.x.0/24
[18:43] <ramkam> alesan: nmap can help you out
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[18:44] <ramkam> hifi: but if the firewall is on, nmap dumps tons of errors takes ages
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[18:44] <hifi> not really
[18:44] <alesan> ramkam, so the raspberry pi does not have a serial console?
[18:45] <ramkam> alesan: no idea
[18:45] <alesan> ramkam, or, isn't there a way to know the mac address?
[18:45] <ramkam> alesan: i wrote a script to poll the router dhcp map
[18:45] <ramkam> made my life easyier :)
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[18:46] <IT_Sean> alesan: the raspi does not have a serial console in the traditional sense
[18:46] <ramkam> and once you're connected via ssh, just type ifconfig , the mac address should show up
[18:46] <ramkam> (with other infos)
[18:46] <IT_Sean> You can sort of set one up via GPIO, but, it's hairy.
[18:47] <ramkam> RS232 ? yay, reminds me the old days, are you tring to transform a matrix printer into a makerbot like ?
[18:47] <Vooloo> can anyone confirm if having usb cable and usb wireless dongle at the same time is possible without a hub?
[18:47] <alesan> IT_Sean, I was hoping it had a UART typically with TTL levels that is used as default console in Linux
[18:48] <IT_Sean> Vooloo: what do you mean "usb cable" ?
[18:48] <gordonDrogon> the Pi does have a serial console...
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[18:48] <IT_Sean> gordonDrogon: Isn't it not exposed by default?
[18:48] <nmpro> Vooloo: I've had luck running without a powered usb hub. But I noticed my wifi connection was just to slow. It may be due to power issues but I am unsure. I've since went back to wired config
[18:48] <gordonDrogon> it's just that's it's 3.3v.
[18:48] <Vooloo> IT_Sean: usb cable to hook into a TV to get power
[18:48] <gordonDrogon> IT_Sean, it is - you just need to level convert it.
[18:48] <IT_Sean> Vooloo: depends on the dongle. You might need a powered hub for the dongle.
[18:49] <IT_Sean> gordonDrogon: I stand corrected, then, sorry.
[18:49] <alesan> gordonDrogon, do you ahave a link to the pinout?
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[18:49] <Vooloo> nmpro: really? hmm
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> you can do console over usb serial too - but that requires linux to be more or less booted first, so somewhat less use if you're debugging the kernel.
[18:49] <IT_Sean> I was under the impression that it was disabled by default. Sorry alesan... didn'r mean to mislead you.
[18:49] <gordonDrogon> alesan, http://wiringpi.com/pins/ the yellow ones.
[18:50] <alesan> IT_Sean, NP, :)
[18:50] <gordonDrogon> you need to disable it to use it from programs but Raspbian has it enabled for kernel messages and sticks a login on it too once the Pi has booted.
[18:51] <alesan> gordonDrogon, I just want to see which IP address the raspbian gets
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> alesan, might be easier to check your router/dhcp server..
[18:51] <Vooloo> is 4 gb SD card enough for Raspbian?
[18:51] <gordonDrogon> Vooloo, yes.
[18:52] <alesan> gordonDrogon, how do I get the MAC address of the board?
[18:52] <alesan> gordonDrogon, I would gladly look it up but I need to know the MAC address
[18:52] <alesan> or maybe as I think it's the only raspberry pi connected on the network the vendor bytes of the MAC address are enough
[18:52] <gordonDrogon> alesan, it starts: b8:27:eb:x:y:z
[18:52] <alesan> could somebody tell me those?
[18:53] <alesan> thank's
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[18:53] <gordonDrogon> alesan, do you have a linux PC there?
[18:53] <alesan> of course why?
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[18:54] <gordonDrogon> try:
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> fping -a -r1 -g 192.168.254.0/24 &> /dev/null ; arp -n | fgrep " b8:27:eb"
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> where 192.168.254.0 is your LAN IP range.
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[18:54] <alesan> OK
[18:54] <gordonDrogon> it'll take a few seconds to run the fping.
[18:54] <alesan> I will try
[18:55] <alesan> fping is nice so far I always used a bash for loop for similar activities
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[18:55] <alesan> ok
[18:55] <alesan> so how do I power the raspberry, do I really need a USB cable?
[18:56] <hifi> short answer: yes, long: no
[18:56] <IT_Sean> Your best bet is to get the correct USB cable
[18:56] <alesan> hifi, can I solder two wires on C6 directly?
[18:56] <IT_Sean> If you want to, you can power it via the 5v pin and a GND on the GPIO, but, that is not recommended.
[18:56] <hifi> what IT_Sean said
[18:57] <hifi> was the test points also valid for power input?
[18:57] <hifi> were*
[18:57] <alesan> powering through the GPIOS would send noise through all the board before the "input" caps can do anything, wouldn't it?
[18:57] <IT_Sean> WOOOP! Out For Delivery! :D
[18:58] <alesan> in any case, let me look for a micro-USB cable
[18:58] <hifi> your phone charger might have one
[18:58] <alesan> unfortunately I have an Apple
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[18:58] <Firehopper> my rgbled strip isnt here.. its less than 100 miles from me, so I should get it tomorrow.
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[18:59] <hifi> your camera might have one
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[19:01] <azerus> lol, micro-usb is pretty common now, chances are if you found your way to IRC and actually purchased a raspberry pi you'll have no problem finding a micro-usb cable
[19:01] <azerus> What methods are people using to transmit their raspberry pi camera module captured images for live viewing?
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[19:02] <gordonDrogon> alesan, you can power it off a USB port on your apple/pc/etc. you just need a standard usb to microusb cable.
[19:03] <Wiisel> �1 shops always have them nowdays
[19:03] <azerus> he means his cable is not micro usb
[19:03] <gordonDrogon> putting 5v directly into the GPIO socket works too, but you have no inlet fuse protection then.
[19:03] <azerus> from his phone
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[19:07] <alesan> gordonDrogon, is there a "fuse" in the input? I do not see it
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[19:09] <gordonDrogon> alesan, it's green.
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[19:09] <EchoFox> my ds18b20 sensor is listed as 28-0000000001aa, when i run cat w1_slave, i get the YES, but no reading of any sort..
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[19:10] <EchoFox> i replugged it in, not its not even listing, and my other sensor is gone now as well
[19:11] <alesan> gordonDrogon, ohhh on the bottom side :)
[19:11] <EchoFox> the good sensor only displays after i unplug the other sensor.
[19:12] <alesan> OK I started the whole thing... first boot I am sweating
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[19:16] <azerus> ^ any answers?
[19:16] <IT_Sean> answers to what?
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[19:17] <alesan> OK I have found the MAC and the IP address
[19:17] <alesan> now... I need to login
[19:17] <IT_Sean> Great. That means it's working
[19:17] <gordonDrogon> ssh - username pi, password raspberry
[19:17] <alesan> looking for root password on raspbian
[19:17] <azerus> What methods are people using to transmit their raspberry pi camera module captured images for live viewing?
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> alesan, there isn't one - login as pi and sudo
[19:18] <alesan> gordonDrogon, why?
[19:18] <azerus> sudo su | passwd
[19:18] <gordonDrogon> alesan, because there isn't a root password - set one if you need to.
[19:18] <mgottschlag> "sudo -s" ftw
[19:18] <azerus> w/e
[19:19] <azerus> all does the same thing in the end :)
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> on first time login, run sudo raspi-config
[19:19] <gordonDrogon> it's normally running on the console login, but you can do it via ssh.
[19:19] <alesan> ok ssh-copy-id is my friend
[19:20] <alesan> gordonDrogon, in fact that was run automatically by sudo -i
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[19:20] <alesan> should I do the Expand Filesystem?
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> generally yes.
[19:21] <Vooloo> what is the jtag for?
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> as the default image is only 2GB.
[19:21] <alesan> OK
[19:21] <alesan> rebooting
[19:21] <gordonDrogon> Vooloo, jtag is a low-level interface to chips. you can safely ignore it if you don't know what it is.
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[19:21] <alesan> Vooloo, basic debugging
[19:21] <mgottschlag> Vooloo: on the pi? firmware development/debugging (probably) or hardware debugging (definitely)
[19:21] <Vooloo> Ah
[19:22] <ecraven> does anyone here use gpsdrive for in-car navigation on the pi?
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[19:23] <SrRaven> I got a F5D7050 WiFi stick from Belkin, does that work with the pi?
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[19:25] <SrRaven> or rather, I could get one for really cheap
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[19:35] <alesan> so I am in the raspi-config
[19:35] <alesan> advanced options, I can configure the GPU memory
[19:35] <alesan> it is set by default to 64MB but I am not planning to use it, can I set it to 0 MB?
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[19:39] <Vooloo> does SD card "class" make a difference? it says class 6, 4, 10 etc..
[19:39] <ecraven> speed depends on it
[19:39] <Vooloo> maybe the write speed is the difference
[19:39] <Vooloo> Yeah ok
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[19:41] <ramkam> hi guys, how can i vnc the display of the pi ? been trying this http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?t=50897&p=393825 but it shows a second display (same user), can't manage to see the primary one (hdmi output)
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[19:42] <ramkam> re
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[19:44] <mgottschlag> SrRaven: as every wifi stick, it maybe needs some additional power
[19:44] <SrRaven> mmh k
[19:44] <mgottschlag> alesan: you certainly can set it to 0 in the config file, I don't know whether raspi-config supports that :)
[19:45] <mgottschlag> (it still needs some memory, but allocates as little as possible)
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[20:04] <Wiisel> heres 2:14 of my first raspi project if anyone is bored (I say my but most was copy pasted) http://youtu.be/pS5ePBpw9sY
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[20:21] <Batolemaeus> *sigh
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[20:26] <Vooloo> is it safe to just remove the power adapter to turn it off? the OS wont crash and have to run fsck or something on each boot?
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[20:27] <Firehopper> vooloo no not reallly
[20:28] <IT_Sean> Always do a proper shutdown first
[20:28] <Firehopper> safe, run sudo shutdown -h now and wait till it shuts down, then remove power
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[20:28] <IT_Sean> failing to do so may lead to corruption of the SD card contents
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[20:28] <Vooloo> A shutdown switch/button would be nice
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[20:29] <Vostok> i never do a proper shutdown
[20:29] <Vostok> always just remove power
[20:29] <Firehopper> you can make one and a script..
[20:30] <Firehopper> Your lucky your not getting a corrupted sd card Vostok
[20:30] <pksato> Fried Pi http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=63&t=51419
[20:30] <Vostok> no i'm not lucky
[20:30] <Firehopper> the pi is almost aways writing something to the sd card
[20:30] <Vostok> if i'd get one, i'd be unlucky :)
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[20:34] * Firehopper always shuts down when I'm done with my pi.
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[20:34] * nmpro does also
[20:34] * johnc- is never done with his pi
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[20:35] <johnc-> they are low power, run em all the time!
[20:36] * nmpro pi is doesn't have a case and wants to keep it away from his wifes cats
[20:36] <nmpro> lol
[20:37] <johnc-> I have a couple that are uncased
[20:37] <johnc-> cats don't seem interested so far thankfully
[20:37] <nmpro> lol
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[20:38] <nmpro> We have two cats.. One of the two isn't very bright. I'm sure he'd lick the board given the chance .. haha
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[20:39] <johnc-> we have two also
[20:39] <johnc-> one is a fire hazar
[20:39] <johnc-> hazard*
[20:39] <johnc-> he puts feathers in the toaster and play furry mice under the oven
[20:40] <nmpro> haha awesome!!
[20:40] <ShorTie> lol, As I stared at the RPi wondering what had happened I noticed the 5V regulator circuit lying next to the RPi...
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[20:41] <nmpro> ShorTie: haha.. sorry.. laughing with you, I swear
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[20:43] <ShorTie> oh, thats from that link pksato posted
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[20:45] <MightyMu> Wow. sshed into my Pi just now, took about 3 minutes to login. Lots of errors about my .profile. I looked at it, and it's, yep, full of errors - characters changed. Tried to edit it, and discovered my .vimrc is hosed, too. Obviously some fsck in my future!
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[20:55] <MightyMu> ok, here's a good one - there's a disk error (bad extended attribute block), because of which I can't su or sudo. How do I cleanly shutdown and force a fsck if I can't touch /forcefsck or run 'shutdown' ?
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[20:58] <ShorTie> sounds like it's time to dd a new img on the card
[20:58] <MightyMu> yeah :(
[20:58] <MightyMu> good thing I have backups
[20:58] <Batolemaeus> you could attach a keyboard and try ctrl+alt+del
[20:59] <MightyMu> oooh, yes
[20:59] <Aut0Exec> so... /close
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[21:00] <Batolemaeus> but to be honest, if you just wait a bit for it to flush to disk, you could yank power without much data loss. Unless you have databases running
[21:00] <MightyMu> no dbs
[21:00] <MightyMu> and the one process I use it for is shutdown
[21:00] <Batolemaeus> and tbh., there's a reason why i run everything off an external hdd
[21:00] <Batolemaeus> then just yank it. It won't break stuff
[21:01] <MightyMu> I've lost a couple filesystems to yanking power already - at least that's what I assumed was the problem
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[21:02] <MightyMu> keyboard worked
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[21:02] <MightyMu> thanks, Batolemaeus
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[21:03] <mgottschlag> btw, you can force a flush to disk via sysrq :)
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[21:08] <oldtopman> sync && halt
[21:08] <oldtopman> ^Never crashed a disk with that duo.
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[21:10] <hifi> halt does a clean unmount
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[21:10] <hifi> or remount as read-only, dunno which
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[21:22] <MightyMu> mgottschlag: is that the whole fs, or just for databases? Is it runnable as an unprivileged user?
[21:23] <MightyMu> ahh, drat, it's hosed anyway. no boot. :(
[21:24] <IT_Sean> reimage it
[21:24] <MightyMu> yup
[21:24] <IT_Sean> and this time, do a proper shutdown before removing power
[21:25] <MightyMu> that would have been my choice, yes :)
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[21:41] <gyeben> re
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[21:43] <dAnjou> hi, i use a raspbian 7.1 and wonder why mount mounts ext4 devices with pi:users as user:group
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[22:03] <jonno11> Hi guys. I have a 18GB SD card - but I'm getting disk full errors. How come this is happening? https://gist.github.com/jonlambert/2ad1fd9cc9ba66af07a9
[22:03] <Vostok> you haven't resized the partition?
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[22:04] <Vostok> you can do it in raspi-config
[22:04] <jonno11> Vostok: That seems to error too. Gimme a sec I'll post it
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[22:05] <jonno11> https://gist.github.com/jonlambert/c8413d34634a1dc65816
[22:05] <jonno11> Vostok: ^
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[22:18] <alesan> hey guys you are the only ones that can help me... how can I replicate the bash prompt settings of the user "pi" ?
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[22:18] <pksato> replicate?
[22:18] <alesan> so other users have the same colors on the prompt?
[22:18] <alesan> or even on my computer?
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[22:20] <pksato> if you create new user correct, its have same configuration.
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[22:20] <ShorTie> in your .bashrc file
[22:21] <pksato> but, user shell settings is on file ~/.bashrc or ~/.profile
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[22:21] <ShorTie> i like Gentoo's colors, and use it
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[22:22] <pksato> I dont like default debian user environment, its is big...
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[22:38] <BCrookAtRA> why can't I fedup upgrade fedora from 18 to 19 on a pi?
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[22:55] <davor> hifi, it lives! it's downloading packages now
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[22:56] <davor> hey, gordonDrogon, are you there?
[22:57] <Batolemaeus> omg, i think i've found the bug that kept me from using the camera
[22:57] <davor> what was it?
[22:58] <Batolemaeus> whoever made the ebuild for raspberrypi-userland on gentoo forgot to link libmmal_vc_client.so
[22:58] <Batolemaeus> raspistill will build without it, but fail to create the camera
[22:58] <davor> nice spotting!
[22:58] <Firehopper> my package went 14 miles in 8 hours this morning :O!
[22:58] <Batolemaeus> will do some testing tomorrow to make sure i'm not following a red herring, but i'm pretty sure
[22:59] <Batolemaeus> oh and...i got the camera running on gentoo linux on rpi with hardfloat :3
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[22:59] <Batolemaeus> and i learned how to use strace today!
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[23:00] <davor> I was really lucky today
[23:00] <davor> was looking for full core wire... uhh I don't know what the proper name is to be honest
[23:01] <davor> but, opposite of threaded
[23:01] <davor> just for breadboard work
[23:01] <davor> since jumper wires tend to be pretty expensive for how many you get
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[23:02] <davor> my local electronics store directed me to a place which was supposed to have it, but it turned out to be an indoor/outdoor lights place
[23:03] <davor> but well, I figured what's the harm in asking. the woman told me they don't sell it, but there's some cable which has thin full wires inside
[23:03] <davor> gave me 3 m of the cable for free
[23:03] <davor> wonderful lady
[23:03] <alesan> where do you live?
[23:03] <ShorTie> phone wire
[23:03] <alesan> what gauge is that wire?
[23:03] <davor> croatia, 22 awg or something like that
[23:04] <davor> 0.5 mm in diameter
[23:04] <alesan> do you need males or females at the end of the wire?
[23:04] <davor> looking for females, but this will do for now
[23:04] <alesan> 22AWG is pretty thick
[23:04] <ShorTie> you where l00king for solid core not stranded
[23:04] <alesan> I have bought a bunch of female wires on ebay I tihnk
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[23:04] <davor> no, sorry, 24
[23:04] <ShorTie> phone wire is like 24 ga
[23:05] <davor> yes, that's it ShorTie
[23:05] <davor> oh, hmmm
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[23:05] <davor> that's weird. one moment
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[23:05] <davor> either way though I have 24 metres of ~0.5 mm diameter solid core wire now heh
[23:06] <ShorTie> there is also always cat5
[23:06] <ShorTie> sweet
[23:08] <davor> I think all cat5 I have is stranded
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[23:08] <davor> hmm
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[23:09] <davor> weird though. I have asked a lot of people and they just shrugged
[23:09] <davor> in electronics stores!
[23:09] <davor> blame lies with me first for not doing my research
[23:09] <davor> ebay should sell female extensions though, I believe
[23:10] <davor> *female wires
[23:10] <davor> I mean, wires with female plugs
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[23:10] <davor> nice, 40pcs 20 cm for $1.89
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[23:18] <gordonDrogon> davor evening ...
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[23:22] <jonno11> Hi guys. I have a 18GB SD card - but I'm getting disk full errors. How come this is happening? https://gist.github.com/jonlambert/2ad1fd9cc9ba66af07a9
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[23:23] <jonno11> raspi-config resizing partitions gives me this https://gist.github.com/jonlambert/c8413d34634a1dc65816
[23:24] <BCMM> is it possible to get debian backports on raspbian?
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[23:24] <davor> gordonDrogon, I am sorry to be bothering you, but I have a question or two regarding that improvised ADC you suggested when I expressed my desire to make an equalizer (this is the diagram you linked me http://unicorn.drogon.net/poorMansADC.jpg )
[23:25] <davor> if you are available
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[23:28] <bbb^> jonno11: not to sure really :) did you go through the NOOBS install or one of the other images onto your SD card?
[23:28] <jonno11> Rasbian image :)
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[23:31] <ShorTie> jonno11, try rpi-wiggle maybe
[23:31] <ShorTie> http://rpi.tnet.com/project/scripts/rpi-wiggle
[23:33] <bbb^> k I am using the raspbian image too , just wondering why you did not do a resize on first boot after preparing the SD card :) The problem looks to be that your trying to do a resize and for some reason the resize operation is bombing out because you don't have space left :)
[23:33] <davor> I'll just spew my questions out for if and whenever anyone is able to answer them, regarding this method itself, how big of a resistor should I use for R2 (and R1 should be bigger than R2 iirc?) to prevent damage to the GPIO pin? is there an equation I could utilise, would C=Q/V; I=Q/t; I=V/R do (using 3.3V as V, since that was the voltage at which the capacitor would have been charged at)?
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[23:35] <bbb^> jonno11: i think if you can free some space the resize operation might succeed. can you try 'sudo apt-get autoclean' and report back output of df -h ?
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[23:36] <davor> what I am referring to is the method of detecting resistance of a variable resistor using a capacitor being charged via 3.3V, discharged to a GPIO output pin set to 0V, which is then set to input, after which the time required to charge the capacitor is measured, which indicates the resistance of the variable resistor, if I understood the method correctly
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[23:39] <jonno11> bbb^: still 100%!
[23:39] <ShorTie> without a schem, it's like imposible, for me at least, to understand what cha doing
[23:40] <davor> http://unicorn.drogon.net/poorMansADC.jpg Gordon drew it for me when he suggested it ShorTie
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[23:40] <ShorTie> charging of a cap is almost instatanance
[23:41] <davor> if I use a large enough resistor, I could get it up to ms
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[23:42] <bbb^> jonno11: damn, that be an easy win .... I am only guessing that is the problem, my thinking is that raspi-config is running a script that needs some free disk to complete the resize operation
[23:43] <jonno11> bbb^: hmm yeah
[23:43] <gordonDrogon> davor, hi - sorry in & out this evening. the pi will regsiter a logic one at about 1.2v, so you can use that as a guess.
[23:44] <gordonDrogon> you can use the gettimeofday() system call to give you �S accuracy.
[23:44] <gordonDrogon> R2 is probably ok at 100Ω
[23:44] <gordonDrogon> it's ignored during the charge phase, so you need to use R1 + the VR + C1 to work out the time constant.
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[23:46] <davor> no problem, thanks for replying. hmm, I'm a bit fuzzy here, how does the pi registering a logic one at 1.2v relate?
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[23:46] <davor> ah, that's great regarding the system call
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[23:47] <davor> ah, yeah makes sense, it will first charge the capacitor, and then the pin?
[23:48] <davor> so I won't get a logic one on the input pin until the capacitor is charged
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[23:48] <davor> to be honest I'm worried about the capacitor giving the input pin too much charge in too little time, resulting in a big current and blowing it up
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