#raspberrypi IRC Log

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IRC Log for 2013-08-02

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[0:02] * _BigWings_ (~Thunderbi@modemcable237.145-19-135.mc.videotron.ca) has joined #raspberrypi
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[0:22] <Firehopper> http://i.imgur.com/9RNNRJ0.gif < poor kitty, but I giggled
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[0:22] * ShorTie snickers
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[0:23] <Encrypt> Firehopper, :D
[0:23] <Firehopper> :)
[0:24] <Phosie> Poor thing
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[0:27] * wiiguy (~fake@unaffiliated/wiiguy) Quit (Quit: I just broke my connection, but no worries, we can rebuild it. We have the technology.)
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[1:00] * pksato (~PEBKAC@unaffiliated/pksato) Quit (Quit: Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair)
[1:00] * eggy (eggy@unaffiliated/eggy) Quit (Quit: Good Bye, I'm done.)
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[1:05] <PipeDale> Evening
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[1:18] * Ohmnivore (~Ohmnivore@198-200-120-27.cpe.distributel.net) Quit (Quit: Programming is an art form that fights back)
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[1:23] <ihavenick> ShiftPlusOne hi and /proc there is no file or dictory
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[1:25] <ihavenick> ShiftPlusOne: ?
[1:26] <PipeDale> Have i missed something
[1:26] <PipeDale> ihavenick: no one has spoke for a while
[1:27] <ihavenick> :D
[1:28] * Mikelevel (~MoVeWoRk@unaffiliated/mikelevel) Quit (Ping timeout: 256 seconds)
[1:29] <PipeDale> Such a sticky night
[1:30] * ruif13 (~ruif13@a89-153-58-111.cpe.netcabo.pt) Quit (Quit: ruifigueiredo.me)
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[1:35] <Baylink> Query: Does anyone make a metal VESA-mount passthrough case for the PI?
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[2:20] <IT_Sean> My raspi's LCD is now displaying time and IP :D
[2:20] <IT_Sean> for the wrong timezone, but... still! :D
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[2:22] <ShorTie> just move
[2:22] <ShorTie> easy fix
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[2:23] <Blacklite> ^^
[2:23] <savid> So apparently one can get audio input on an RPi using i2s and P5, but I know nothing about i2s. If I wanted to add a line-in plug, is there a need for some kind of DAC between the input and the i2s pins? I'm having trouble finding info on this.
[2:23] <pksato> savid: need a i2s codec
[2:24] <pksato> usb sound card is more easy.
[2:24] <savid> pksato, that's just software in the pi though, right?
[2:24] <pksato> no
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[2:24] <pksato> codec in this contex. is a hardware.
[2:25] <savid> oh
[2:25] <pksato> and, need sofware too
[2:26] <savid> I've seen instructions on how to recompile the kernel to support the i2s interface. So what exactly would codec hardware look like?
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[2:26] <savid> I know USB is probably the easier option, but I'm just curious
[2:27] <pksato> example of codec http://www.ti.com/product/tlv320aic33
[2:28] <savid> Gotcha. Thanks
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[2:56] <Coburn> hm, just had a little hang
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[2:56] <Coburn> when I changed to performance governor, the mmc driver said "timeout -110 sending stop command"
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[2:57] <Coburn> I believe it is a kernel issue on how it handles mmc I/O, I know there was a git convo about it
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[10:10] <steve_rox> anything fun going on?
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[10:16] <ShorTie> just playing with my Bumble Bee
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[10:17] <steve_rox> wassat?
[10:17] <ShorTie> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0096SRMBC/ref=dra_a_cs_mr_hn_it_P1400_1000?tag=dradis-20
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[10:18] <ShorTie> quad chopper
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[10:19] <steve_rox> they made a cheaper varient that doesent cost �500?
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[10:20] <Mothership> hi
[10:20] <ShorTie> it only cost 27 bucks, don't know what that is in £
[10:21] <steve_rox> least its not IR controled
[10:22] <steve_rox> as far as i can see
[10:22] <steve_rox> how well does it fly?
[10:22] <ShorTie> it's fully proportional, 2.4 ghz radio
[10:23] <ShorTie> beautifully
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[10:23] <steve_rox> interesting
[10:23] <ShorTie> you can hover it 1/2" off floor no prblem
[10:23] <steve_rox> now just need a way to strap a rpi to it
[10:23] <steve_rox> ;)
[10:23] <ShorTie> you just got to follow the 3 second rule
[10:24] <ShorTie> it has 3 gyro's in it
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[10:24] <ShorTie> you have 3 seconds from when you plug battery in till when it needs to be on flat level surface
[10:25] <ShorTie> so the can orient them selfs
[10:25] <ShorTie> so they can orient them selfs
[10:25] <steve_rox> it needs 3 seconds to stablise self?
[10:26] <ShorTie> no
[10:26] <steve_rox> how confusein
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[10:26] <ShorTie> 3 seconds till it does
[10:26] <ShorTie> gives you time to turn over and put on floor
[10:27] <FR^2> I just came online, but I'm interested what you're talking about :) Any urls? ^^
[10:27] <steve_rox> so how long does it laast in the air from full charge?
[10:27] <ShorTie> 5-6 minutes on a 350ma lipo
[10:28] <ShorTie> http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0096SRMBC/ref=dra_a_cs_mr_hn_it_P1400_1000?tag=dradis-20
[10:28] <steve_rox> ah the exsiteing super light yet explodeing batts
[10:28] <ShorTie> yuppers
[10:30] <steve_rox> im guessing it wont have enough pull to lift a rpi in flight :P
[10:30] <ShorTie> ya, not really
[10:31] <steve_rox> least its the first afordable chopper thats not controled by a annoying iphone
[10:32] <ShorTie> it's vertially indistructable, so says my dad
[10:33] <steve_rox> unless you crash it into a volcano
[10:33] <FR^2> ShorTie: thx
[10:33] <ShorTie> well, lol.
[10:33] <steve_rox> :-D
[10:36] <steve_rox> i need a new createive idea or purpose for the rpi
[10:38] <ShorTie> i think you'll love it FR^2, if you get 1
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[10:39] <FR^2> ShorTie: For the last few months I'm in a "want to have this, want to have that, but don't have the time"-loop :)
[10:40] * ShorTie snickers
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[10:41] <FR^2> ShorTie: I own three raspis, all unplugged for a few weeks now. I own a cubieboard2, but it's still very experimental so I don't do a lot with it. my soldering iron is lying on the desk for two months untouched right beside the 20-or-so DS18S20 1-wire temperature sensors I wanted to place all around my flat ;)
[10:41] <ShorTie> you can fly it no problems in the house
[10:41] <steve_rox> i got two rpis on now
[10:42] <steve_rox> ones running a mumble and web server
[10:42] <steve_rox> the other has a rpi cam on it and is doing time delay shots out the window
[10:43] <steve_rox> might be interesting to learn how to control a relay thu the rpi
[10:46] * azeam_afk is now known as azeam
[10:48] <FR^2> And I've got that project where I connected an industrial GPS receiver to a raspberry pi, but the WLAN connection was unstable and the raspbian installation couldn't reconnect after a disconnect...
[10:50] <ShorTie> i got 2 pi's in da box, just awaiting good homes myself
[10:51] <steve_rox> i need some tutorial on wireing a relay to rpi i dunno where to start
[10:51] <double-you> ask google
[10:51] <FR^2> I want to pack the raspberry pi with the gps connected with a battery and either bluetooth or wireless lan stick together in a box - a crude, too-big GPS device ;)
[10:52] <ShorTie> 1st off steve_rox, what voltage is the coil ??
[10:52] <ShorTie> should not be to hard
[10:52] <steve_rox> i dont know im just looking at a random relay board on ebay
[10:53] <tig|> steve_rox: or use a prebuilt interface board like pi-atx
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[10:54] <ShorTie> well, the next thing you need to decide is what your gonna control
[10:54] <steve_rox> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5V-8-CHANNEL-ISOLATED-RELAY-Suit-ARDUINO-RASPBERRY-Pi-Pic-Etc-/130959103892?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Components_Supplies_ET&hash=item1e7dc55794
[10:55] <ShorTie> so you can get contact rated at enough amps
[10:55] <steve_rox> thats the random one im looking at
[10:57] <ShorTie> 5v coils, your gonna need a logic level converter to be able to control it
[10:57] <steve_rox> something i know nothing of
[10:58] <ShorTie> which can be good in away cause you take the coil current away from the rPi
[10:58] <treeherder> hey, not officialadvice here,m but there are many anecdotal accounts of people using 5v on the rpi gpi 3.3 logic pins with no ill effect
[10:58] <treeherder> if ya google it
[10:58] <ShorTie> not on voil your not
[10:58] <ShorTie> not on a coil your not
[10:59] <treeherder> you're*
[10:59] <treeherder> :P
[10:59] <tig|> ah found the board, MotorPiTX
[10:59] <steve_rox> is there a simplier relay board thats easier to rig up?
[11:03] <steve_rox> guess its something i shouldent be messing with at the moment
[11:03] <ShorTie> you any good at solder steve_rox ??
[11:03] <steve_rox> i can solder yeah
[11:03] <ShorTie> 2 10k resisters and bss123 is all you need for converter
[11:04] <steve_rox> oh
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[11:05] <steve_rox> think ill leave it for now untill i can learn more about stuff
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[11:08] <ShorTie> here you go steve_rox, simple schem, http://pastebin.com/LwkqcWi2
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[11:11] <ShorTie> you can take a 1/8w resister, bend the leads around and down, then just solder the bss123 to them
[11:11] <ShorTie> makes a nice little package
[11:11] <steve_rox> i see , seems simple
[11:12] <ShorTie> tis
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[11:14] <steve_rox> think ill leave it for now , i dont wanna end up like the guy that put 250v directly into his rpi
[11:15] <steve_rox> or rather end up like that rpi
[11:16] <FR^2> hehe
[11:16] <steve_rox> im sure youve seen the pics
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[11:18] <ShorTie> actually, since that relay board is opto-isolated
[11:18] <ShorTie> it may work right out of the box
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[11:19] <steve_rox> hmmz?
[11:19] <ShorTie> being no different then hooking up an led
[11:19] <steve_rox> i havent done the led thing yet :-P
[11:20] <ShorTie> see the VCC to in0 portion of the circuit ??
[11:20] <ShorTie> thats the portion that goes to the rPi
[11:21] <ShorTie> and is no more then a led
[11:22] <steve_rox> err i see
[11:22] <ShorTie> 330 ohm resister is all that is needed to get it to work, i would think
[11:23] <steve_rox> i fear if i did buy this board i may not know how to complete it
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[11:23] <ShorTie> experience is the best teacher
[11:24] <steve_rox> hmm true
[11:24] <steve_rox> but i dont wish to damage anything
[11:25] <ShorTie> it should be preaty hard to mess up the rPi with that board
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[11:26] <steve_rox> thats the theory
[11:27] <muxe> Hi, what do I need to do to grant a normal user access to the camera board on Raspbian? Works fine as root.
[11:29] <ShorTie> just bought 2 more of those quad-choppers for my sons .. :/~
[11:30] <steve_rox> fun :-)
[11:31] <ShorTie> now we can have a Bumble Bee fight, lol.
[11:32] <steve_rox> cant see that ending well :-D
[11:32] <ShorTie> my dad and his friends do it all the time
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[11:33] <steve_rox> wont they break?
[11:34] <ShorTie> out of the 20 or so they have got (you can't have just 1 they say), all the have turn up is a couple props
[11:36] <ShorTie> he says not real easily
[11:37] <ShorTie> and my dad is 83, lol.
[11:38] <steve_rox> :-P
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[11:41] <steve_rox> them batts with the chinglish on em were rubbish as expected
[11:41] <steve_rox> rpi drained them under 30 mins
[11:42] <ShorTie> chinglish, lol.
[11:42] <steve_rox> yup
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[11:43] <ShorTie> how many ma's are they ??
[11:43] <steve_rox> packageing says 3000mAh on em
[11:43] <ShorTie> that ain't much
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[11:43] <ShorTie> only 3 amps
[11:44] <Mothership> any1 know if there is a way to make a timer which turns on/off power to rpb from battery? im not sure if socket timers would work.. i need something simple that would power on once a day for 20mins and turn off cause i need to log things once a day
[11:44] <ShorTie> and if they rPi needs 1 amp to run, doesn't leave much
[11:44] <tig|> Mothership: as soon as the pi gets power it will start
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[11:44] <Mothership> no no
[11:44] <Mothership> i mean
[11:45] <Mothership> i have a battery which would power the rbp
[11:45] <Mothership> i want it to be efficent and turn on only once a day for 20mins
[11:45] <Mothership> and then turn off
[11:45] <Mothership> to save the battery
[11:45] <tig|> Mothership: so you could use a plug timer but remember to script in a shutdown so you are not yanking power out of the mounted file system
[11:45] <tig|> Mothership: ah
[11:45] <Mothership> yes yes i know :)
[11:46] <Mothership> but i thought that maybe plug timers use plug power for switching on/off
[11:46] <Mothership> the inner battery is only for the clock
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[11:46] <Mothership> i have the real time clock shield on, but i guess that wont work when rbpi is off
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[11:50] <tig|> Mothership: google for "PiTX Raspberry" and there will be a link to boeeerb.co.uk who build an ATX style power supply, there may be some info on there that you could adapt
[11:50] <ShorTie> your gonna suck battery voltage up for the timer no matter what i would think
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[11:52] <Mothership> tig|, ill look in to that thanks
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[12:00] <MrVector> Hey guys, A while back browsing the forums and other resources related to bare metal development on the pi I recall stumbling upon a bullet point list of how to draw things on the pi
[12:00] <MrVector> It included steps like setting up a FB struct, sending it to the correct mailbox channel etc.
[12:01] <MrVector> Does anyone know what I'm talking about and/or where I can find it? :-)
[12:02] <MrVector> It was either, on the rpi github, forum or osdev. But I can't seem to find it
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[12:08] <MrVector> A-ha, I *think* this is it, http://www.raspberrypi.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=159241
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[12:37] <ctorp> Is there a baseline typical power usage for the pi?
[12:39] <ShorTie> i would guess it all depends on what your baseline is doing
[12:39] <ctorp> a small web server for a site with minimal to no traffic
[12:40] <ctorp> I am curious if it would be better to use a pi or to recommission an android cell phone from last year by comparative power usage
[12:41] <ShorTie> you can't power it at them min
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[12:41] <ctorp> them min?
[12:41] <ShorTie> the rPi likes a 1 amp supply
[12:42] <ShorTie> it can run on a 700ma supply
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[12:42] <ShorTie> but insuffiecent power at times can cause problems with that
[12:43] <steve_rox> when using the rpi cam with lower power you get werid lines down images etc
[12:43] <ShorTie> the minimun*
[12:43] <ctorp> @steve_rox what do you run yours at?
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[12:44] <steve_rox> erm it depends what the rpi is doing at time
[12:45] <steve_rox> i did make a txt file logging max it drew
[12:45] <steve_rox> however i cant rember where i left it :P
[12:45] <ctorp> lol
[12:45] <steve_rox> seems the most it draws is 740ma
[12:46] <steve_rox> id need a faster multimeter to measure it more accurate
[12:46] <ctorp> How did you create the txt file?
[12:46] <steve_rox> allough mine has the lcd and mini fan in it
[12:46] <steve_rox> i used notepad :-P
[12:46] <ctorp> you made it manually?
[12:46] <ctorp> :\
[12:47] <steve_rox> i guess
[12:47] <steve_rox> i dont have any fancy logging tools
[12:48] <ctorp> I just got mine in the mail yesterday and will hopefully get to play with it this weekend
[12:48] <ShorTie> doesn't really matter what it draws, if you don't want power issues, you need a 1 amp supply as the manufacture says
[12:48] <steve_rox> the power was a bit demanding in places so i added a cap to try make it stable which worked
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[12:49] <steve_rox> the LCD took a bit more power to initlise
[12:49] <steve_rox> which caused rpi to reboot
[12:49] <ctorp> Would you need to use hardware means to limit the power? I was just going to plug the power cable into the microusb slot
[12:49] <steve_rox> lucky i had some spare caps from the time i replaced the caps in that pc display
[12:50] <steve_rox> limit the power?
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[12:50] <ctorp> you're speaking of caps and lmiting the amperage
[12:50] <ctorp> I was thinking of how much power it'd draw just from the microusb cable
[12:50] <steve_rox> well its to stop the dramatic power drop in the circuit
[12:51] <ShorTie> caps don't limit amps
[12:51] <ctorp> ShorTie: I was saying he mentioned both
[12:51] <ShorTie> caps will help boost the availble amps
[12:51] <steve_rox> the cap compinsates for the larger power draw
[12:51] <MrVector> Hey guys, I'm trying to get a hold of the framebuffer in C, it doesn't seem like the VC is giving me a proper FB address. Anyone that could take a quick peek? http://pastebin.com/zZBaGGgu
[12:51] <steve_rox> it only lasts for like a second or less but its long enough
[12:52] <steve_rox> just makes the lcd startup less agressive on the circuit as a whole
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[12:53] <ShorTie> yup, supplies extra current till it discharges
[12:53] <steve_rox> very handy
[12:54] <steve_rox> i use a dc-dc convertor board to knock voltage down to 5v
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[12:55] <steve_rox> means i can shove most voltages into the board and not have it smoke to hell
[12:56] <ShorTie> a cap is like a small rechargable battery
[12:57] <steve_rox> i wana try one them ultra caps sometime
[12:58] <ShorTie> i had/have some BIG caps
[12:58] <steve_rox> at what voltage?
[12:59] <ShorTie> like 3" in dia and 6" tall, don't remember the farad of them
[12:59] <Encrypt> Like a battery... but with no problem of charging controller...
[12:59] <Encrypt> I found 350F capacitors on Farnell
[12:59] <Encrypt> (and even bigger)
[12:59] <Encrypt> RadioSpares*, sorry
[12:59] <ShorTie> they could run a car radio for almost 5 minutes after i unplug the power
[12:59] <steve_rox> wonder how long a rpi will live on one hehe
[13:00] <Encrypt> I made calculus
[13:00] <Encrypt> That's what I'll use for my RPi Saver
[13:00] <Encrypt> I found something like 3 minutes if I use 350F capacitors
[13:00] <ShorTie> i should dig around up yarnder and find them and see
[13:00] * ShorTie don't throw nufin away
[13:01] <steve_rox> i have 8 AA batts on my rpi as well as a 18v feed into it so if one dropps out the other takes over
[13:01] <Encrypt> Considering the Pi can't survive "well" after the voltages goes behind 4.85V
[13:01] <Encrypt> steve_rox, You can consider the Pi as being a resistor
[13:02] <Encrypt> It consumes a maximum of 700mA
[13:02] <Encrypt> And the voltage is 5V
[13:02] <ShorTie> rPi's have no problems with power failures
[13:02] <Encrypt> So, U = R*I <=> R = U/I
[13:02] <ShorTie> sdcards might though, lol.
[13:02] <Encrypt> Ya :p
[13:03] <ShorTie> but only if you got open files
[13:03] <steve_rox> we were haveing a lot of aggressive storms in the uk and i thought the power may fail , so i attached batt pack to it
[13:03] <Encrypt> ;)
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[13:04] <steve_rox> the batt power in is isolated from feedback useing a diode
[13:05] <steve_rox> or id have 18v going into 8aa batt pack
[13:05] <steve_rox> boom/fire etc etc
[13:05] <Encrypt> But then...
[13:05] <Encrypt> You can't get 5V, right?
[13:05] <Encrypt> Because of the forwarding voltage of the diode?
[13:05] <steve_rox> i did think of the forwarding voltage
[13:05] <steve_rox> it does drain a bit down
[13:05] <steve_rox> but its there to protect it
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[13:06] <Encrypt> Ok, I see :)
[13:06] <steve_rox> if i bypassed the diode completely it would mean trouble
[13:06] <ShorTie> a zenor diode can give you max of 5.1v thru put
[13:07] <steve_rox> what about the forward voltage?
[13:07] <steve_rox> and or current
[13:07] <ShorTie> current depends on size of diode you buy
[13:08] <steve_rox> oh i see
[13:08] <mgottschlag> huh, you don't want a zener diode, you want a diode with as low Vforward as possible
[13:08] <ShorTie> it will block anything above it's rating
[13:08] <mgottschlag> (and another diode on every other voltage source you have)
[13:08] <ShorTie> well almost anything, not no lighting
[13:09] <mgottschlag> ShorTie: no, the diode is serial to the battery, so it will block everything *below* its forward voltage
[13:09] <mgottschlag> and subtract the forward voltage from everything above it
[13:09] <steve_rox> the diode blocks the voltage feeding into the batts
[13:09] <steve_rox> it would destroy them
[13:10] <ShorTie> zenor diode act differently from normal diodes
[13:10] <mgottschlag> well, yeah, I thourght about the other current direction there
[13:10] <steve_rox> but if the other voltage source dies the other wil take over
[13:10] <mgottschlag> ShorTie: a zener diode will not help here
[13:10] <steve_rox> ive rapidly ran out of room inside my rpi project box now so i have too be carefull about what i install/plan
[13:10] <mgottschlag> at least if I understand steve_rox correctly
[13:11] <mgottschlag> steve_rox: of course be careful not to backfeed your normal powersupply either
[13:11] <ShorTie> you can save power using a zenor diode
[13:11] <mgottschlag> ShorTie: how?
[13:11] <mgottschlag> circuit diagram?
[13:12] <steve_rox> hmm interesting thought
[13:12] <ShorTie> lets say your runnin a 7805
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[13:12] <ShorTie> and have a 20v supply
[13:12] <steve_rox> i measured the MA drawn from batts when the other source is on and its 0ma
[13:12] <Encrypt> By the way...
[13:12] <ShorTie> thats alot for the 7805 to drop
[13:12] <Encrypt> I found a link showing how to use mosfet as blocking diodes...
[13:13] <Encrypt> But I'm not quite sure about what they said... :/
[13:13] <mgottschlag> yeah, mosfets make great "ideal diodes" when one adds some additional circuitry
[13:13] <mgottschlag> saves a lot of battery power
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[13:13] <ShorTie> put like a 9v zenor on your supply line, then the 7805 only needs to drop 4v
[13:13] <Encrypt> http://rs20.mine.nu/w/2013/02/using-mosfets-as-blocking-diodes-reverse-polarity-protection/
[13:13] <steve_rox> never really used a zenor
[13:14] <mgottschlag> ShorTie: a 9v zener in serial with the batter will drop the voltage to 11V, which means an additional drop of 6V
[13:14] <mgottschlag> you cannot put it in *parallel* with the battery or the zener diode would cause a short circuit
[13:15] <mgottschlag> and in no situation this will save power, because the zener diode just dissipates what the 7805 now doesn't
[13:15] <ozzzy> there ain't no free lunch
[13:16] <ShorTie> nop, no free lunch
[13:16] <ShorTie> but there are cheaper ones
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[13:17] <RaTTuS|BIG> ha! 115200 baud is slow ... reminds me of the old days and downlaoding images via a modem
[13:18] <steve_rox> think i could manage about 20mb per 2 hours in them days
[13:18] <ozzzy> I usually use 9600 baud
[13:18] <RaTTuS|BIG> just xfrd an image from an model A with camera to a model B via the serial lines
[13:18] <mgottschlag> hm, I still need to check how high I can set the pi's baud rate without breaking the connection... actually, 1Mbaud should be possible
[13:18] <RaTTuS|BIG> mgottschlag - now that is an idea....
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[14:16] <tabsterleir> Hey all, whats the status of weston on Raspbian? I've read a few conflicting articles
[14:18] <[Saint]> you can try it yourself in a current image
[14:18] <tabsterleir> Oh? Some articles i've read say it only runs a terminal and nothing else. Is that true?
[14:19] <[Saint]> That's very non-true.
[14:19] <tabsterleir> Awesome :D I'm gonna go find me a setup guide
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[14:21] <[Saint]> http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/tag/wayland should get you started
[14:21] <[Saint]> there's nothing really to "set up".
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[14:21] <tabsterleir> Many thanks :)
[14:21] <[Saint]> a current image should come with everything you need to just launch it from a terminal iirc.
[14:22] <[Saint]> older images needed you to actually install the preview.
[14:22] <[Saint]> I'm pretty sure its baked in now.
[14:22] <[Saint]> ...but I may be wrong.
[14:23] <tabsterleir> Hmm...odd...its crashing out straight away...
[14:23] <[Saint]> The next release should hopefully be using it by default.
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[14:24] <[Saint]> that is weird...
[14:24] <[Saint]> you should be able to just call "weston" from a terminal and have it just work.
[14:24] <tabsterleir> I'm doing some research, but I get "fatal: environment variable XDG_RUNTIME_DIR is not set.
[14:25] <[Saint]> perhaps try and boot straight into a terminal (as opposed to booting into the desktop environment, or killing X, and launching it from there.
[14:25] <tabsterleir> OK, i'll give it a bash
[14:26] <[Saint]> I don't actually use a desktop environment myself, commandline only for me presently - but I have checked out the weston demo, and it "just worked".
[14:27] <tabsterleir> That's cool :) i'll work it out. I'm not quite good enough to go full gui-less yet
[14:28] <[Saint]> At the time I tried it, it actually involved pulling the packages in from collabra's repo and installing from there, but the end result was the same insofar as all that is required is to call "weston" from the commandline.
[14:30] <tabsterleir> Well, originally I did add his repo but then apt told me it already existed in the standard raspbian repos. So I installed it from there.
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[14:55] <RaTTuS|BIG> you want to do weston-launch not weston
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[14:57] <tabsterleir> Tried that, i'm just trying to sort out a variable problem
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[15:34] <plm> Hi all
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[15:41] <Doc-Saintly> Hello all. I'm looking for an SoC solution for SSH/VPN and perhaps a headless webserver. I've been comparing a few solutions and i'm still not sure which to go with. Can the Pi support SSH/VPN/WebServer all on one device?
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[15:42] <tig|> Doc-Saintly: depends on your throughput
[15:42] <Doc-Saintly> for which? The webserver?
[15:42] <Doc-Saintly> Just for test development, single developer.
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[15:43] <plm> Doc-Saintly: depends how much data you need pass over the RPi
[15:43] <tig|> well all three, as an ssh,web for single user it would be ok, depends how complex the website backend is
[15:44] <tig|> it could do it, it just depends on your speed expectations
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[15:47] <Phosie> heh
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[15:50] <Doc-Saintly> Sorry about that, I didn't see anything after I mentioned throughput. Could someone repeat whatever was said?
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[15:51] <Phosie> 14:43 < plm> Doc-Saintly: depends how much data you need pass over the RPi
[15:51] <Phosie> 14:43 < tig|> well all three, as an ssh,web for single user it would be ok, depends how complex the website backend is
[15:51] <Phosie> 14:44 < tig|> it could do it, it just depends on your speed expectations
[15:51] <IT_Sean> Doc-Saintly: logs are at http://srv.datagutt1.com
[15:53] <Phosie> I really with the forum had breadcrumbs at the top of the page.
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[15:57] <Doc-Saintly> Thanks
[15:59] <Doc-Saintly> Assuming I have a 10Mbps upload speed from my home connection, if I set up a raspberrypi with VPN, could I expect to get 10Mbps down from it through my home connection?
[16:01] <chithead> you can run "openssl speed" to measure the amount of throughput you can achieve for a particular type of encryption
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[16:02] <chithead> with aes-256 you can barely achieve 10 mb/s http://elinux.org/RPi_Performance#OpenSSL
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[16:12] <Doc-Saintly> chithead: thanks :)
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[16:41] <Phosie> Made myself dinner, and consumed it. Hardly any messages. I hate it when IRC is quiet sometimes.
[16:41] <steve_rox> thats 99% the time
[16:41] <Phosie> The I in IRC stands for idle
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[16:42] <fiddlinmacx> Phosie: ;-)
[16:42] <Phosie> hmm?
[16:42] <fiddlinmacx> It almost makes you wish there were more trolls to feed eh?
[16:42] <Phosie> Almost.
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[16:43] <Phosie> I should find my soldering iron so I can attach a couple of wires to this motor...
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[16:55] <cads> hey guys, some friends and I are working on a raspberry pi controlled coffee machine
[16:55] <cads> the friends are far away, so I won't be able to help with the build, but I'd like to help with the software
[16:57] <cads> to that end I'd like to run a raspberry pi simulator, so we can test out our server and the hardware control code (we're just going to be toggling one of the output pins to push voltage to a relay unit)
[16:57] <IT_Sean> sounds like a cool project
[16:58] <cads> thanks!
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[16:59] <cads> the guys wanted to make a USB controlled coffee pot, and I suggested making it a standalone server unit powered by a pi, and it kind of took off
[16:59] <Phosie> It sounds very cool.
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[17:00] <Phosie> and you could even see just how much coffee you drink a day
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[17:01] <Doc-Saintly> Well, since it's so quiet :) Is there a good place to ask questions about various SoC? I know it's not as simple as "Is XYZ better than the Pi..." but I'm considering what hardware I should use.
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[17:03] <cads> right now we're figuring out how to put raspbian on the machine
[17:04] <IT_Sean> ... you just write the OS image to the SD card...
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[17:05] <Phosie> I'm confusing myself again. =(
[17:05] <IT_Sean> again, or still?
[17:05] <Phosie> Bit of both
[17:05] <IT_Sean> :p
[17:05] <cads> IT_Sean: I think we'll be installing raspbian. So the pi uses the SD card as its main storage unit?
[17:06] <IT_Sean> Yes
[17:06] <IT_Sean> The raspi boots of the SD card
[17:06] <Phosie> I was thinking of driving a 6v motor using a ULN2003, but would I need an external power source?
[17:07] <IT_Sean> cads: the raspi has no onboard storage. Only the SD, and any storage devices you attach via USB. /boot HAS to be on the SD card.
[17:08] <tig|> woo \o/ the Pi Lite bright white kickstarter boards have shipped today \o/
[17:08] <cads> IT_Sean: sounds good
[17:09] <cads> IT_Sean: does the installed OS and it user's home folder typically live on the sdcard?
[17:09] <IT_Sean> Typically, yes.
[17:09] <IT_Sean> doesn't have to, but, that is the default configuration
[17:09] * Phosie sits in the corner and scratches her head
[17:10] <IT_Sean> problem, Phosie
[17:10] <IT_Sean> ?
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[17:10] <Phosie> Just wondering if I would need an external power source (batteries) for this motor I plan to control with the pi
[17:11] <Phosie> I was going to use a uln2003 to drive it, but a diagram has confused me.
[17:11] <davor> can anyone recommend a good, detailed guide for making printed circuit boards? it's my first time
[17:11] <IT_Sean> Phosie: sorry, i have no idea.
[17:11] <Phosie> I don't think I do.
[17:12] <cads> IT_Sean: can the pi do netboot?
[17:12] <tig|> cads: sadly not :<
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[17:12] <IT_Sean> cads: As opposed to using the SD? No. The raspi will ONLY look for /boot on the SD card
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[17:15] <Phosie> No longer confused \o/
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[17:16] <cads> okay, well, it looks like my friends will be installing the OS and then running a script that I write, to install the software.
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[17:17] <cads> I'd like to test the script in a simulator, any ideas there?
[17:18] <cads> so far I have found the raspberry-pi devbox https://github.com/nickhutchinson/raspberry-devbox/
[17:20] <Phosie> There was a program people were using before the raspberry pi was on sale, but the name slips my mind
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[17:25] <tig|> qemu?
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[17:25] <Phosie> tig|: That's the one.
[17:26] <cads> the raspberry pi devbox does have qemu on it, but I don't understand how to use it, lol
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[17:28] <Cracker2> I just did a fresh arch linux install and tryin to run chromium. Having same issue? http://archlinuxarm.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5948&p=33527
[17:29] <Cracker2> can't downgrade. any suggestions?
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[17:30] <chithead> this problem might be arch specific. probably best ask in their channel
[17:31] <Phosie> One downside of buying things online, I have to wait! :(
[17:31] <tig|> Phosie: but on the plus side, little parcels arrive in the mail!
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[17:32] <Phosie> I love getting parcels in the mail, it feels like christmas.
[17:32] <tig|> \o/
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[17:32] <Phosie> Gives me time to solder on the wires to my motor too.
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[17:57] <Phosie> hmm..
[17:58] <IT_Sean> Phosie: are you thinking?
[17:59] <IT_Sean> I thought i smelled burning.
[17:59] <Phosie> Hey!
[17:59] <IT_Sean> lol
[18:00] <Phosie> Just looking at this datasheet
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[18:08] <Phosie> IT_Sean[LUNCH]: get me something please...as an apology.
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[18:10] * tig| passes Phosie another datasheet
[18:10] <Phosie> Don't confuse me even more.
[18:11] * tig| fetches a datasheet for a bagel
[18:12] <Phosie> I'm sure everything will go smoothly on Tuesday when I get my chip.
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[18:27] <Essobi> Afternoon all.
[18:28] <Phosie> Afternoon.
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[18:29] <Essobi> Anyone know offhand if I can pull the TX line low, then re-enable it for normal serial TX operations?
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[18:35] <davor> wow
[18:36] <davor> my RPi didn't restart upon plugging in the wifi stick
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[18:37] <Phosie> Pleasantly surprised?
[18:37] <davor> very
[18:37] <quackgyver> Oh wow, this is really insulting. http://betabeat.com/2013/08/find-the-melinda-to-your-bill-introducing-betabeat-singles/
[18:37] <Essobi> lol
[18:37] <davor> I've switched over from Arch to hifi's minimal Raspbian, so it might be that
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[18:39] <Phosie> Possibly.
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[18:49] <Phosie> wb
[18:50] <IT_Sean> tks
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[18:50] <hifi> davor: there are a few possible reasons, if you didn't have the kernel modules installed via apt or rpi-update it didn't actually initialize it
[18:51] <davor> hm, I don't think I had them loaded from the get-go on arch and the thing still rebooted
[18:52] <hifi> I updated the instructions to use apt instead of rpi-update as it has way too much overhead and it's 3rd party
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[18:53] <davor> hm, nope, the module is apparently loaded (rt2800usb)
[18:53] <davor> ah, good to know, thank
[18:53] <davor> s
[18:54] <hifi> I didn't actually even know the raspberrypi.org had a fully compatible package for /boot stuff and /lib/modules
[18:54] * hifi blushes
[18:54] <hifi> the raspberrypi.org repository
[18:54] <davor> well this is weird.
[18:54] <davor> I can't get it up
[18:54] <davor> $ sudo ifup wlan0
[18:54] <davor> Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[18:54] <hifi> do you have the firmware
[18:55] <hifi> I doubt it has anything pre-configured
[18:55] <hifi> can you use ifconfig and iwconfig?
[18:55] <davor> I have the appropriate module loaded, iwconfig shows wlan0, ifconfig doesn't, but ifconfig wlan0 does
[18:56] <hifi> that just means it's not up
[18:56] <hifi> ifconfig wlan0 up
[18:56] <hifi> ifup uses the /etc/networking scripts
[18:56] <davor> SIOCSIFFLAGS: No such file or directory
[18:56] <hifi> then it might be missing firmware
[18:56] <davor> with ifconfig wlan0 up
[18:56] <hifi> check your dmesg
[18:56] <davor> hrm
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[18:58] <davor> http://ix.io/71g
[18:58] <davor> that is all
[18:58] <davor> lsusb -> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 2001:3c1c D-Link Corp.
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[19:01] <hifi> davor: wait, there are some dwc_otg related cmdline.txt parameters that are usually the default
[19:02] <hifi> I'm 99% sure that's the issue
[19:02] <hifi> I don't have any default cmdline.txt in the installer for many reasons, might need to start creating one though
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[19:04] <davor> ah okay, thanks
[19:04] <Essobi> ~.
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[19:05] <hifi> altough I don't understand why they didn't just patch the kernel to flip the default if it's a driver issue
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[19:06] <davor> indeed
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[19:21] <davor> oh...
[19:21] <davor> hifi, turns out I *didn't* have the firmware
[19:21] <davor> sorry for the commotion :(
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[19:33] <PipeDale> Anyone good with overclocking?
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[19:45] <nmpro> PipeDale: http://tinyurl.com/cu9rzmd
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[19:56] <PipeDale> nmpro: yeah i've followed that now :p
[19:56] <PipeDale> however if i hammer the cpu
[19:56] <PipeDale> cat /proc/cpuinfo don't change :\
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[20:01] <davor> hm
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[20:04] <PipeDale> what's up davor
[20:04] <PipeDale> harhar!
[20:05] <PipeDale> someone's using my domain, i've pointed to cloudflare and removed from my account.
[20:05] <IT_Sean> someone stole your domain?
[20:06] <davor> eh, still messing with wireless PipeDale
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[20:06] <davor> wow, how did that happen PipeDale ?
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[20:12] <davor> at last! it LIVES!
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[20:19] <hifi> davor: was the firmware in some installable package?
[20:19] <davor> yeah hifi, I have had to edit my sources file
[20:19] <davor> firmware-ralink
[20:20] <davor> it's in non-free
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[20:20] <davor> so I added non-free to the raspbian repo
[20:20] <hifi> ah
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[20:21] <hifi> I'll add a note to the instruction that if you need ralink firmware you need to enable non-free and install that
[20:21] <hifi> because that might not be obvious if the package was installed by default on raspbian full
[20:21] <hifi> and many people use wireless stuff
[20:21] <PipeDale> IT_Sean: yeah because i still had it pointing to Cloudflare so someone added it to there account for them to use
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[20:22] <IT_Sean> eep
[20:23] <davor> yeah indeed hifi. I think non-free is enabled by default on raspbian full, not sure. but I'm pretty sure the package is not installed by default
[20:23] <hifi> ah
[20:24] <davor> judging by all the forums, the replies were mostly "just apt-get install firmware-ralink", no mention of sources.list modifications
[20:24] <hifi> I'm personally a bit against enabling non-free by default though it's a bit hypocrite as the broadcom firmware is as non-free it can be
[20:24] <davor> you can just add a note that the package is available in non-free which needs to be enabled manually
[20:25] <hifi> will do that
[20:25] <davor> it's no big deal and a quick thing to do
[20:25] <davor> the adding of non-free I mean, not adding a note lol
[20:25] <PipeDale> davor: you don't need to edit sources.list to get that package
[20:26] <davor> PipeDale, on Raspbian full?
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[20:31] <PipeDale> davor: on hifi's image either
[20:31] <davor> hm, weird. I couldn't install it, said "package not found"
[20:31] <PipeDale> you needed to
[20:31] <PipeDale> apt-get update
[20:31] <PipeDale> :)
[20:31] <davor> which in the end made sense for me because I only had "main" repos enabled
[20:31] <davor> I did
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[20:31] <davor> and firmware-ralink is in non-free according to my searches
[20:32] <davor> could you perhaps check your sources.list to see if non-free is enabled over there PipeDale? I'm kind of curious now heh
[20:32] <davor> because this is weird
[20:32] <chithead> if you want free wifi, then you need ath5k or rtl8187
[20:33] <PipeDale> davor: i have main contrib
[20:33] <chithead> for all others, install the firmware-linux-nonfree package
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[20:34] <davor> and you can download and install the "firmware-ralink" package PipeDale ?
[20:34] <PipeDale> yup
[20:34] <PipeDale> by the looks ^__^
[20:34] <davor> I'll keep that in mind, thanks chihhsin
[20:34] <davor> oops, sorry chihhsin. I mean chithead
[20:35] <davor> haha, that's kind of odd
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[20:35] <PipeDale> firmware-ralink - Binary firmware for Ralink wireless cards
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[20:39] <davor> well whaddayaknow
[20:40] <davor> just disabled everything but main and contrib and apt-cache search finds it
[20:40] <davor> how in the world was I able to miss it just a short while ago?
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[20:40] <davor> hifi, apparently I missed it somehow... it is in main or contrib
[20:40] <davor> not non-free
[20:40] <davor> thanks PipeDale
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[20:44] <davor> hm, mpd is big
[20:44] <davor> along with its deps that is
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[21:39] <davor> hm, I can't connect my client to my mpd server for some reason...
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[21:48] <sandman> Anyone know how to get shellinabox's Onscreen keyboard to be checked (enabled) by default?
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[21:49] <davor> does Raspbian deny connections by default or something?
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[22:00] <nmpro> davor: #raspbian .. ;)
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[22:05] <davor> ah, right, thanks nmpro :p I solved my problem though, couldn't connect to mpd over LAN because it was bound to 127.0.0.1 instead of its local IP
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[22:08] <nmpro> sorry.. lol.. just giving you a hard time..
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[22:10] <davor> hahah
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[22:12] <davor> GAH
[22:12] <davor> why is it still stuttering?
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[22:13] <davor> mpd stutters every so often, cpu usage spikes to 100%
[22:13] <davor> best ask in #raspbian or something
[22:13] <nmpro> lol
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[22:14] <nmpro> say's its all about openelec .. ;)
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[22:16] <davor> well, I guess that's my next stop heh
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[23:07] <daemoneye> My pi is not booting. :( The pwr LED lights up, but the 'ok' LED is not lighting. I first checked that the SD card I have (16GB SanDisk SDHC) was okay, and the wiki page on elinux.org (http://elinux.org/RPi_SD_cards) said it was good. I have tried a several different images (wheezy, kali, and pibang) with no luck. Although I have no multimeter to test input, other devices are able to charge from the
[23:07] <daemoneye> same power source. Any suggestions on what my next move should be? I am about to try with a different SD card here in a bit.
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[23:07] <mgottschlag> what is the current rating of the power supply?
[23:07] <mgottschlag> also, if you check the FAT32 partition, is there a bootcode.bin file?
[23:08] <hifi> daemoneye: if you have a display attached do you get any image?
[23:08] <hifi> well, possibly not if you never get anything else than power
[23:08] <daemoneye> mgottschlag: 5v, 700ma. hifi: no image
[23:08] <mgottschlag> heh, it might just be that the OK LED is broken... a bit unlikely though :D
[23:09] <mgottschlag> okay, 700mA is a bit little
[23:09] <daemoneye> okay... let me try pulling pwr from my laptop
[23:09] <hifi> without any peripherals it's more than enough to boot it
[23:09] <mgottschlag> so it probably works if the power supply really can provide that, but many can't
[23:09] <mgottschlag> yeah, at least until linux
[23:09] <mgottschlag> but the OK LED should already light deep in the bootloader, so that's probably not it
[23:09] <hifi> daemoneye: your laptop most likely has even less juice in the USB port
[23:09] <daemoneye> nope. same deal
[23:10] <mgottschlag> so, you might just have a faulty board
[23:10] <hifi> or the SD card doesn't work with it
[23:10] <hifi> you have *any* other SD card?
[23:10] <daemoneye> Well, when I first purchased it, it worked fine.
[23:10] <hifi> it might work fine but it might not be compatible with the pi
[23:10] <mgottschlag> what changed since then?
[23:10] <daemoneye> I am currently writing an image to a second SD card for testing
[23:10] <hifi> that's a good start trying another card
[23:11] <daemoneye> yep... that was going to be the second test
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[23:12] <pksato> ok or act led?
[23:12] <daemoneye> pksato: nope. just the pwr led is coming up
[23:13] <pksato> first led from hdmi connector, is a act led. it never lit (son after power on)
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[23:14] <daemoneye> It did start running nope. first led never lit.
[23:14] <mgottschlag> pksato: as far as I know, the bootloader always lights it during the boot process, except if they changed that recentlyx
[23:15] <pksato> fault rpi.
[23:15] <ShorTie> did you check img hash to make sure it is ok ??
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[23:15] <daemoneye> probably. Although it did work when I first purchased it. Then I ran out of free time to really use it, so I left it unpowered for a couple months
[23:17] <pksato> daemoneye: test without sd card, act cant lit shortly.
[23:17] <ShorTie> you did extract the img and not just copied it over ??
[23:18] <daemoneye> no sd card and still just pwr led.
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[23:18] <IT_Sean> with no SD card you will only see the PWR led. You need an SD card w/ a valid image for the raspi do to anything. :p
[23:18] <daemoneye> ShorTie: I unziped the file, then copied using the dd command, as found on the wheezy website
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[23:20] <ShorTie> did you check img hash to make sure it is ok ??
[23:21] <daemoneye> I have not. But if it failed with three different images, what are the chances of all three img hashes being bad?
[23:21] <hifi> daemoneye: when you last used your Pi did you use the same SD card? when it worked
[23:22] <ShorTie> true, sounds more like a writing error then
[23:22] <pksato> try cleaning sd card slot contacts
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[23:22] <daemoneye> I have not. I originally went with a 4GB PNY, now a 16GB SanDisk. The 4GB PNY will be the card I will be trying again
[23:23] <hifi> then it's highly likely it doesn't like your card
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[23:23] <daemoneye> Probably. I will be giving the PNY card another go in a moment
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[23:28] <davor> seems all plans of me having the RPi serve as a music centre are off. if I use it as an mpd server, I get stutters, and I can't find a low-latency way of streaming music to it over wifi
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[23:28] <hifi> off to bed, gn folks
[23:28] <davor> good night man
[23:29] <davor> I'll give OpenELEC a shot, but I think I'm going to the electronics store to pick up 6 metres/20 feet of RCA cable
[23:29] <daemoneye> good night hifi. I'll let you know how I get on with the issues tomorrow
[23:30] <nmpro> g'night hifi
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[23:31] <nmpro> davor: I tried raspbmc first then found openelec. For straight xbmc, oe worked best for me
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[23:32] <davor> thanks nmpro! might work for me. I'll be using mpd as I only need audio though
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[23:33] <fiddlinmacx> davor: have you tried pulseaudio to send as airplay from Linux to the RPi? I've played with that a bit.
[23:34] <davor> I've been messing with that for an hour or two just now
[23:34] <davor> well, with rtp that is
[23:34] <davor> couldn't get it to work
[23:35] <fiddlinmacx> Oh. I'm going to wait for the new version of OpenElec and try it again (or I might try out the 3.1 beta).
[23:35] <davor> hmm, I'll just give vanilla openelec a shot, xbmc and all
[23:35] <davor> oo, nice, I'd love to hear how it goes fiddlinmacx
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[23:36] <fiddlinmacx> I'll let you know if you're online when I try it.
[23:36] <fiddlinmacx> ;-)
[23:36] <davor> thanks man :)
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[23:40] <PipeDale> darn
[23:40] <PipeDale> this storm tripped my ADSL :/
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